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kd5vbc | 298 | Suspension clicks clunks creaks could be loose bolts that can kill I started having occasional clicks clunks creaking noises two months or so ago when turning the steering wheel at low speeds. By the time I got an appointment and took it to a service center (Nov 4) they couldn t reproduce and didn t care to check anything beyond a test drive. The noise gets worse and I schedule another appointment for Dec 16. During this time the noise gets even worse and occasional suspension vibration adds to it. Additionally the symptoms start to manifest at higher and higher speeds. Yesterday (Dec 13) the whole front suspension started to shake at around 35 mph for \\~10 seconds until I slowed down. This was just as I left home. I pull over and see this: & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 5p475epxp7561.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=c02e03565f77ef6b53dc6f0417716d2023c78dd3 I crawl back home in shock at single-digit speeds. & #x200B https: preview.redd.it gjbxa7d2q7561.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f5d84b2d946930fc787659cac1ded185600f641a & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 4rfs84j3q7561.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=daedf02c3059b7b23e8278560126b6c7e1db35d3 No response from messaging the service center until today after I called roadside assistance and had the car towed. Googling brought up [this TMC thread](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads suspension-rattling-sound-turned-out-to-be-a-loose-bolt.185958 ) and an [InsideEVs article on loose suspension bolts on the Tesla Model 3](https: insideevs.com news 397286 tesla-model-3-loose-bolts ). Surprised there hasn t been a recall on this. Also surprised the SC didn t care to check for loose bolts considering this seems to be a known issue. My passengers and I could have died... April 2018 LR RWD | This is what happens when every bad post gets downvoted or overshadowed. Shit like this doesn t get more attention. I will tell you now. SAVE YOUR INVOICES AND DOCUMENT as much as you can. My model x came from factory with loose wobbling seats on driver and middle row. They were in shop for repairs about 4 times until they figured out what it was. Fast forward 2 years later they somehow dont have records of it. I needed to dig up invoices to prove i had issues before to get current issues fixed. They told me my current issues wont be warranted and i would have to pay until i showed them previous issues. Btw most likely they will put it under goodwill. My other suspension problems were put under goodwill instead of warranty. | I have heard this on my October 2018 LR RWD too. It tends to happen before charging when my battery says it s pre-conditioning or post charging so I have just attributed it to the battery warming cooling. But seeing this has me worried I m missing something 🥴 | 81 | 2 | 7,806 |
kd5vbc | 298 | Suspension clicks clunks creaks could be loose bolts that can kill I started having occasional clicks clunks creaking noises two months or so ago when turning the steering wheel at low speeds. By the time I got an appointment and took it to a service center (Nov 4) they couldn t reproduce and didn t care to check anything beyond a test drive. The noise gets worse and I schedule another appointment for Dec 16. During this time the noise gets even worse and occasional suspension vibration adds to it. Additionally the symptoms start to manifest at higher and higher speeds. Yesterday (Dec 13) the whole front suspension started to shake at around 35 mph for \\~10 seconds until I slowed down. This was just as I left home. I pull over and see this: & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 5p475epxp7561.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=c02e03565f77ef6b53dc6f0417716d2023c78dd3 I crawl back home in shock at single-digit speeds. & #x200B https: preview.redd.it gjbxa7d2q7561.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f5d84b2d946930fc787659cac1ded185600f641a & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 4rfs84j3q7561.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=daedf02c3059b7b23e8278560126b6c7e1db35d3 No response from messaging the service center until today after I called roadside assistance and had the car towed. Googling brought up [this TMC thread](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads suspension-rattling-sound-turned-out-to-be-a-loose-bolt.185958 ) and an [InsideEVs article on loose suspension bolts on the Tesla Model 3](https: insideevs.com news 397286 tesla-model-3-loose-bolts ). Surprised there hasn t been a recall on this. Also surprised the SC didn t care to check for loose bolts considering this seems to be a known issue. My passengers and I could have died... April 2018 LR RWD | This is what happens when every bad post gets downvoted or overshadowed. Shit like this doesn t get more attention. I will tell you now. SAVE YOUR INVOICES AND DOCUMENT as much as you can. My model x came from factory with loose wobbling seats on driver and middle row. They were in shop for repairs about 4 times until they figured out what it was. Fast forward 2 years later they somehow dont have records of it. I needed to dig up invoices to prove i had issues before to get current issues fixed. They told me my current issues wont be warranted and i would have to pay until i showed them previous issues. Btw most likely they will put it under goodwill. My other suspension problems were put under goodwill instead of warranty. | Shitty joint design that won t be recalled because not enough cars will experience the issue. Just hope they have since revised it... | 81 | 3 | 7,807 |
kd5vbc | 298 | Suspension clicks clunks creaks could be loose bolts that can kill I started having occasional clicks clunks creaking noises two months or so ago when turning the steering wheel at low speeds. By the time I got an appointment and took it to a service center (Nov 4) they couldn t reproduce and didn t care to check anything beyond a test drive. The noise gets worse and I schedule another appointment for Dec 16. During this time the noise gets even worse and occasional suspension vibration adds to it. Additionally the symptoms start to manifest at higher and higher speeds. Yesterday (Dec 13) the whole front suspension started to shake at around 35 mph for \\~10 seconds until I slowed down. This was just as I left home. I pull over and see this: & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 5p475epxp7561.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=c02e03565f77ef6b53dc6f0417716d2023c78dd3 I crawl back home in shock at single-digit speeds. & #x200B https: preview.redd.it gjbxa7d2q7561.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f5d84b2d946930fc787659cac1ded185600f641a & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 4rfs84j3q7561.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=daedf02c3059b7b23e8278560126b6c7e1db35d3 No response from messaging the service center until today after I called roadside assistance and had the car towed. Googling brought up [this TMC thread](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads suspension-rattling-sound-turned-out-to-be-a-loose-bolt.185958 ) and an [InsideEVs article on loose suspension bolts on the Tesla Model 3](https: insideevs.com news 397286 tesla-model-3-loose-bolts ). Surprised there hasn t been a recall on this. Also surprised the SC didn t care to check for loose bolts considering this seems to be a known issue. My passengers and I could have died... April 2018 LR RWD | This is what happens when every bad post gets downvoted or overshadowed. Shit like this doesn t get more attention. I will tell you now. SAVE YOUR INVOICES AND DOCUMENT as much as you can. My model x came from factory with loose wobbling seats on driver and middle row. They were in shop for repairs about 4 times until they figured out what it was. Fast forward 2 years later they somehow dont have records of it. I needed to dig up invoices to prove i had issues before to get current issues fixed. They told me my current issues wont be warranted and i would have to pay until i showed them previous issues. Btw most likely they will put it under goodwill. My other suspension problems were put under goodwill instead of warranty. | I scheduled 3 SC appointments (Centinela Los Angeles) in the past 12 months because of the same concerning sounds. All 3 times they could not reproduce the sounds and no issues were found even after I asked them specifically to check for loose suspension bolts control arms etc... 2 of the 3 times they had to adjust the wheel alignment (why do we even need to adjust alignment so often?). And I was charged for the most recent one. I was also charged for the tech to lift the car to check for issues since they could not replicate the sound. I really want to book another appointment now but how do I convince them when it s so difficult to replicate? VIN 3XXX 2018 LR RWD | 81 | 3 | 7,808 |
kdw77a | 133 | Car wash did not go well So decided to go to a touchless car wash for the first time with my Model 3 on Saturday. I did the full service so they had me get out of my car and the guy went in to take it through the wash. I ll admit I was a little hesitant but I figured plenty of Teslas have gone through before. The guy got in and drove no problem. I even left my phone in the car acting as the key. As I watched through the glass window as my car went through the wash I saw the charging port was open! I m banging on the window trying to get their attention to close it before it got sprayed with water. I couldn t not get their attention. So the port took a full blast of water. After that the guy saw it and closed it. Now I m freaking out that the port is shot. The only way to open the port was my phone or on the screen. I thought maybe I left it open when I unplugged it to drive there but as soon as you touch the brake it closes automatically (tested that to verify). I got home and let the port dry out for a few days. I plugged in my car this afternoon moment of truth.... It would not charge! It would occasionally go to 1 mile hr then back to 0. I called the car wash and they reviewed the cameras and saw it go open but the guy said his worker did not touch the screen. So news to me I did not know that you could push open the charging port from the outside while the car is unlocked. You can t when it s locked. Since the car was on a conveyer belt they leave the car in Park (car was also unlocked) not in neutral. It seems that the force of the water was enough to pop open the charge port. Since it was in Park there s nothing from stopping the port opening up. I saw online to try blasting some air into the port. I did that and plugged my car back in. Finally it started charging up again!! But wow did not realize going to the car wash could be such a headache. Maybe I should have known this before going to the car wash idk but if not hopefully this helps someone avoid this issue in the future. | Have you tried putting your car in a bag of rice? Worked when my phone got water in it | Ouch. Experience is indeed something you get just after you need it. I only generally go to self-serve ones (they re 1 4 of the cost and can do a better job if you know what you re doing). Turns out they re also less likely to destroy charge ports so that s a nice bonus... | 120 | 2 | 7,809 |
kdw77a | 133 | Car wash did not go well So decided to go to a touchless car wash for the first time with my Model 3 on Saturday. I did the full service so they had me get out of my car and the guy went in to take it through the wash. I ll admit I was a little hesitant but I figured plenty of Teslas have gone through before. The guy got in and drove no problem. I even left my phone in the car acting as the key. As I watched through the glass window as my car went through the wash I saw the charging port was open! I m banging on the window trying to get their attention to close it before it got sprayed with water. I couldn t not get their attention. So the port took a full blast of water. After that the guy saw it and closed it. Now I m freaking out that the port is shot. The only way to open the port was my phone or on the screen. I thought maybe I left it open when I unplugged it to drive there but as soon as you touch the brake it closes automatically (tested that to verify). I got home and let the port dry out for a few days. I plugged in my car this afternoon moment of truth.... It would not charge! It would occasionally go to 1 mile hr then back to 0. I called the car wash and they reviewed the cameras and saw it go open but the guy said his worker did not touch the screen. So news to me I did not know that you could push open the charging port from the outside while the car is unlocked. You can t when it s locked. Since the car was on a conveyer belt they leave the car in Park (car was also unlocked) not in neutral. It seems that the force of the water was enough to pop open the charge port. Since it was in Park there s nothing from stopping the port opening up. I saw online to try blasting some air into the port. I did that and plugged my car back in. Finally it started charging up again!! But wow did not realize going to the car wash could be such a headache. Maybe I should have known this before going to the car wash idk but if not hopefully this helps someone avoid this issue in the future. | Have you tried putting your car in a bag of rice? Worked when my phone got water in it | I ve had that happen when power washing mine. Still works. | 120 | 4 | 7,810 |
kdw77a | 133 | Car wash did not go well So decided to go to a touchless car wash for the first time with my Model 3 on Saturday. I did the full service so they had me get out of my car and the guy went in to take it through the wash. I ll admit I was a little hesitant but I figured plenty of Teslas have gone through before. The guy got in and drove no problem. I even left my phone in the car acting as the key. As I watched through the glass window as my car went through the wash I saw the charging port was open! I m banging on the window trying to get their attention to close it before it got sprayed with water. I couldn t not get their attention. So the port took a full blast of water. After that the guy saw it and closed it. Now I m freaking out that the port is shot. The only way to open the port was my phone or on the screen. I thought maybe I left it open when I unplugged it to drive there but as soon as you touch the brake it closes automatically (tested that to verify). I got home and let the port dry out for a few days. I plugged in my car this afternoon moment of truth.... It would not charge! It would occasionally go to 1 mile hr then back to 0. I called the car wash and they reviewed the cameras and saw it go open but the guy said his worker did not touch the screen. So news to me I did not know that you could push open the charging port from the outside while the car is unlocked. You can t when it s locked. Since the car was on a conveyer belt they leave the car in Park (car was also unlocked) not in neutral. It seems that the force of the water was enough to pop open the charge port. Since it was in Park there s nothing from stopping the port opening up. I saw online to try blasting some air into the port. I did that and plugged my car back in. Finally it started charging up again!! But wow did not realize going to the car wash could be such a headache. Maybe I should have known this before going to the car wash idk but if not hopefully this helps someone avoid this issue in the future. | Have you tried putting your car in a bag of rice? Worked when my phone got water in it | Life is about risk management. It s not just about the impact of a risk but the probability of occurrence. Combined the give you the risk profile for any possible event. The risk profile for something like this is relatively low. Unlikely to happen (measures can be taken to ensure it doesn t happen) and if it does happen its low 8mpact(it more or less repaired itself). If you do nothing but avoid risk why bother even driving your car - you might get in accident. So enjoy your car. Drive it wash it take it to Home Depot and out 10 bags of mulch in it. You ll be much happier in the long run as I}used to constantly worrying. And in the end it really is just a car .... < Asbestos underwear = on> | 120 | 4 | 7,811 |
kemjbf | 175 | Anyone else feel like Phone Key works flawlessly until your hands are occupied by Chick-fil-A bags? It s a weekly occurrence for me | It s the same for all convenience tech: it will work flawlessly until you actually need it. | The situation where I m most likely to have problems is when I drive somewhere park go inside for 5-10 minutes come back out and try to leave. There s some time threshold where the system just acts stupid and doesn t want to reconnect and I usually have to tell it to connect to my phone manually so I can listen to my crap. If the car has been parked for an hour it s never an issue. Always after a drive always after only being parked for a short time. | 78 | 27 | 7,812 |
kemjbf | 175 | Anyone else feel like Phone Key works flawlessly until your hands are occupied by Chick-fil-A bags? It s a weekly occurrence for me | I carry my phone in my back pocket. I walk up to my car grab the handle (I have an M3) and wait for it to open. If it doesn t open in a couple seconds I then turn my hip so the phone is right up against the door then it will open within another couple seconds. Have never had this not work. | ... or when it s raining | 41 | 14 | 7,813 |
key6cb | 60 | Any signs of v11? Tomorrow it s a month since we were told the holiday software will be 🔥🔥. Anyone remember when other holiday updates have been released? | Lots of rumors on Twitter saying the 22nd. | It was 12 24 19 when I got the update last year. | 53 | 6 | 7,814 |
key6cb | 60 | Any signs of v11? Tomorrow it s a month since we were told the holiday software will be 🔥🔥. Anyone remember when other holiday updates have been released? | Lots of rumors on Twitter saying the 22nd. | They re normally released the week of Christmas. I got my update on December 25th after taking the car for a drive to find a store open to resolve an emergency issue with our Christmas ham being unexpectedly bad. | 53 | 11 | 7,815 |
key6cb | 60 | Any signs of v11? Tomorrow it s a month since we were told the holiday software will be 🔥🔥. Anyone remember when other holiday updates have been released? | Folks claim it will be on Tuesday Dec 22nd 2020 that it will come out as Tesla does major software releases on Tuesdays. | It was 12 24 19 when I got the update last year. | 36 | 6 | 7,816 |
kg78us | 252 | Driving Safe I have removed five posts in the last 24 hours due to not driving safe. Those people that posted these have been given a temp ban. Do not post unsafe driving. This means pictures and videos. It is in the rules. Rule 1a. This month we have been chill with rule 1. This is not one that I will be chill with. This is a warning. If you post one the temp ban has been increased. Don t be stupid. Edit fixed a word. | At least on mobile I see no 1a rule. I wish you would enforce rule 1 more. Between this sub and the model3 sub all we get are: I just ordered I got a vin I got a pickup date I picked it up I washed my car. | Probably wise. Thanks for not punishing them too harshly. | 90 | 3 | 7,817 |
kg78us | 252 | Driving Safe I have removed five posts in the last 24 hours due to not driving safe. Those people that posted these have been given a temp ban. Do not post unsafe driving. This means pictures and videos. It is in the rules. Rule 1a. This month we have been chill with rule 1. This is not one that I will be chill with. This is a warning. If you post one the temp ban has been increased. Don t be stupid. Edit fixed a word. | At least on mobile I see no 1a rule. I wish you would enforce rule 1 more. Between this sub and the model3 sub all we get are: I just ordered I got a vin I got a pickup date I picked it up I washed my car. | I was not aware of this rule but man do I applaud it! Good on you moderators for not tolerating unsafe driving practices on this sub 👏 | 90 | 48 | 7,818 |
kh8ymt | 27 | Had an accident..Day 2 FFS I need some advice today on if what happened was normal or not. I was rear ended today and the damage to the back was not bad. However the car was stuck into park in the middle of the road and would not stay in neutral or go into drive the doors also would not open and had to use the manual release. Eventually pushed the car to the side then the windows began to malfunction and going up and down then the center screen went black and some windows went down and got stuck. Car lost all control and power at that point. Is this behavior normal during an accident? It seems very unusual compared to if another car got rear ended at least I could drive home then. | Schedule a service appointment or call a service center. No one is going to be able to diagnose the problem from a reddit post. | Could have damaged the battery the drive kotor electrics that connect sensors. A multitude of things. | 52 | 7 | 7,819 |
kh8ymt | 27 | Had an accident..Day 2 FFS I need some advice today on if what happened was normal or not. I was rear ended today and the damage to the back was not bad. However the car was stuck into park in the middle of the road and would not stay in neutral or go into drive the doors also would not open and had to use the manual release. Eventually pushed the car to the side then the windows began to malfunction and going up and down then the center screen went black and some windows went down and got stuck. Car lost all control and power at that point. Is this behavior normal during an accident? It seems very unusual compared to if another car got rear ended at least I could drive home then. | Did your seatbelt get locked up? If it did your Pyro fuse blew. | Could have damaged the battery the drive kotor electrics that connect sensors. A multitude of things. | 34 | 7 | 7,820 |
kh9dt2 | 1,657 | One day I am going to own a Tesla. I don t know when or how but after test driving a Tesla I ve decided my new dream car is a Tesla. It was perfect. It felt like I was driving in an iPhone - and I love my iPhone. Stopping at lights by taking my foot off the accelerator? Sold. Based on that alone any model is fine. This post will probably get deleted but I just want to put this out into the universe. I want a Tesla. Thank you and enjoy your beautiful cars. One day I ll wave at you from mine. | first mistake was test driving before you can afford it. & #x200B Now you will be googling how to sell a kidney at 2am | Nice. | 1,086 | 4 | 7,821 |
kh9dt2 | 1,657 | One day I am going to own a Tesla. I don t know when or how but after test driving a Tesla I ve decided my new dream car is a Tesla. It was perfect. It felt like I was driving in an iPhone - and I love my iPhone. Stopping at lights by taking my foot off the accelerator? Sold. Based on that alone any model is fine. This post will probably get deleted but I just want to put this out into the universe. I want a Tesla. Thank you and enjoy your beautiful cars. One day I ll wave at you from mine. | first mistake was test driving before you can afford it. & #x200B Now you will be googling how to sell a kidney at 2am | > This post will probably get deleted Nope. Chill this month on rule 1. | 1,086 | 11 | 7,822 |
kh9dt2 | 1,657 | One day I am going to own a Tesla. I don t know when or how but after test driving a Tesla I ve decided my new dream car is a Tesla. It was perfect. It felt like I was driving in an iPhone - and I love my iPhone. Stopping at lights by taking my foot off the accelerator? Sold. Based on that alone any model is fine. This post will probably get deleted but I just want to put this out into the universe. I want a Tesla. Thank you and enjoy your beautiful cars. One day I ll wave at you from mine. | first mistake was test driving before you can afford it. & #x200B Now you will be googling how to sell a kidney at 2am | I ve had my SR+ since Mar 2019 and it s like driving a car from 2030. I love it! | 1,086 | 41 | 7,823 |
khpgtv | 163 | I m a resident at a hospital in a major city overrun by COVID. I m in the midst of working 25 days straight. My only source of joy has been awaiting my M3 that has now been delayed for the 3rd time. Each delay I ve only been notified after I had already arranged coverage so I could leave a few hours early. I ve worked 110 hours in the last week and my next day off isn t until January. I ve seen more death in the last two months than I ever imagined to be possible. Our hospital is abusing the hell out of us because we re cheap labor and they re bleeding money. My one glimmer of hope was my M3 -- that truthfully I can barely afford but bought it anyway because I needed something to prevent me from being suicidal -- and now the hope is gone. Even if it magically arrived I won t be able to take off anymore to pick it up. Happy holidays everybody. Stay safe. | Please get help. Teslas are great but at the end of the day it s just a thing. It won t help your outlook in the long run. I ve been where you are. Don t neglect your mental health. It s not worth it. | Man. I wish people would “get it” and be more careful and stop the spread. It ll help ease up our limited resources. | 115 | 4 | 7,824 |
khpgtv | 163 | I m a resident at a hospital in a major city overrun by COVID. I m in the midst of working 25 days straight. My only source of joy has been awaiting my M3 that has now been delayed for the 3rd time. Each delay I ve only been notified after I had already arranged coverage so I could leave a few hours early. I ve worked 110 hours in the last week and my next day off isn t until January. I ve seen more death in the last two months than I ever imagined to be possible. Our hospital is abusing the hell out of us because we re cheap labor and they re bleeding money. My one glimmer of hope was my M3 -- that truthfully I can barely afford but bought it anyway because I needed something to prevent me from being suicidal -- and now the hope is gone. Even if it magically arrived I won t be able to take off anymore to pick it up. Happy holidays everybody. Stay safe. | Please get help. Teslas are great but at the end of the day it s just a thing. It won t help your outlook in the long run. I ve been where you are. Don t neglect your mental health. It s not worth it. | Have them deliver it to the hospital. They owe you that much!! | 115 | 5 | 7,825 |
khpgtv | 163 | I m a resident at a hospital in a major city overrun by COVID. I m in the midst of working 25 days straight. My only source of joy has been awaiting my M3 that has now been delayed for the 3rd time. Each delay I ve only been notified after I had already arranged coverage so I could leave a few hours early. I ve worked 110 hours in the last week and my next day off isn t until January. I ve seen more death in the last two months than I ever imagined to be possible. Our hospital is abusing the hell out of us because we re cheap labor and they re bleeding money. My one glimmer of hope was my M3 -- that truthfully I can barely afford but bought it anyway because I needed something to prevent me from being suicidal -- and now the hope is gone. Even if it magically arrived I won t be able to take off anymore to pick it up. Happy holidays everybody. Stay safe. | Please get help. Teslas are great but at the end of the day it s just a thing. It won t help your outlook in the long run. I ve been where you are. Don t neglect your mental health. It s not worth it. | Damn. Sucks to be in training right now. Sorry. Hang in there. The grass IS greener when you get done. 😁👍 | 115 | 22 | 7,826 |
khrix2 | 115 | Feedback Xmas Update Hey all Wanted to update you. The feedback from my [Drive Safe post](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg78us driving_safe ) and a few other comments was great. You guys seem to like when I m talking to you and telling you what s going on behind the scenes or how the mods are thinking. I hope the feedback is good on this post and we can have more of this. I hope you all know by now that we have been chill on Rule 1 this month. Remember you only have 10 days left till we go back to not being chill on Rule 1. I have had a ton of feedback on pictures of Tesla s. We allowed them at the start of the month then it became so bad we had to remove the pictures. [Click here if you want more info about it.](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg78us driving_safe ggd2j6i ) To beat rule 1. If you are going to be taking a picture of your Tesla or a Tesla in general. Please have a write up that goes into the comments or even make it a text post with a link to the picture. This picture should be of a mod wrap (that you did yourself and have a list of tools you used) etc. to the car. In the comments you have to have a write up on how you did the mod or whatever it was. [example click here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg878f wrapped_my_model_3_matte_black_myself ). To go along with the Tesla car pictures if you post a photo of you sitting inside a Tesla watching something or camp mode that will fall under rule 1 and be removed. The reason we remove these type of posts is because the sub would be overwhelmed with pictures just like we saw the first two weeks of this month. A lot of you reached out we are listening. ____ **NOW! On to the fun stuff** The Xmas update is right around the corner. There will be a mega thread just like every other update. Please only post things about the update in that mega thread. I know that a lot of you will not read this and just post anyway but it will be removed. The sub will be spammed with updates about it. I bet we will get a ton of screenshots of the update downloading. I even bet that Elon will tweet about it happening and have screenshots of his tweet. If it gets really bad we will lock the sub from new posts and forward everything to the mega thread just like we do with events. We do this so everyone can enjoy the sub. We have seen spamming of the sub during the Cybertruck event and other event. The Cybertruck event was bad and mods had to relock the sub after 24 hours. Mods will approve posts as they come in just like we have with other events. ____ We (mods) are listening and welcome feedback. Please enjoy the sub. I will be active in this post if you have any questions. Almost forgot. The [mods](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors about moderators) wanted to say thank you to the people that said thanks for modding the sub. We saw your comments it does put a smile on our face. Happy holidays! | > The Xmas update is right around the corner. Define corner 😗 | Exciting!! | 108 | 2 | 7,827 |
khrix2 | 115 | Feedback Xmas Update Hey all Wanted to update you. The feedback from my [Drive Safe post](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg78us driving_safe ) and a few other comments was great. You guys seem to like when I m talking to you and telling you what s going on behind the scenes or how the mods are thinking. I hope the feedback is good on this post and we can have more of this. I hope you all know by now that we have been chill on Rule 1 this month. Remember you only have 10 days left till we go back to not being chill on Rule 1. I have had a ton of feedback on pictures of Tesla s. We allowed them at the start of the month then it became so bad we had to remove the pictures. [Click here if you want more info about it.](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg78us driving_safe ggd2j6i ) To beat rule 1. If you are going to be taking a picture of your Tesla or a Tesla in general. Please have a write up that goes into the comments or even make it a text post with a link to the picture. This picture should be of a mod wrap (that you did yourself and have a list of tools you used) etc. to the car. In the comments you have to have a write up on how you did the mod or whatever it was. [example click here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg878f wrapped_my_model_3_matte_black_myself ). To go along with the Tesla car pictures if you post a photo of you sitting inside a Tesla watching something or camp mode that will fall under rule 1 and be removed. The reason we remove these type of posts is because the sub would be overwhelmed with pictures just like we saw the first two weeks of this month. A lot of you reached out we are listening. ____ **NOW! On to the fun stuff** The Xmas update is right around the corner. There will be a mega thread just like every other update. Please only post things about the update in that mega thread. I know that a lot of you will not read this and just post anyway but it will be removed. The sub will be spammed with updates about it. I bet we will get a ton of screenshots of the update downloading. I even bet that Elon will tweet about it happening and have screenshots of his tweet. If it gets really bad we will lock the sub from new posts and forward everything to the mega thread just like we do with events. We do this so everyone can enjoy the sub. We have seen spamming of the sub during the Cybertruck event and other event. The Cybertruck event was bad and mods had to relock the sub after 24 hours. Mods will approve posts as they come in just like we have with other events. ____ We (mods) are listening and welcome feedback. Please enjoy the sub. I will be active in this post if you have any questions. Almost forgot. The [mods](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors about moderators) wanted to say thank you to the people that said thanks for modding the sub. We saw your comments it does put a smile on our face. Happy holidays! | Does anyone have a link to evidence that we will have a “holiday update” before Christmas? Haven t seen much data lately confirming V11 or FSD beta being distributed soon. Thanks if you have a link. | Exciting!! | 36 | 2 | 7,828 |
khrix2 | 115 | Feedback Xmas Update Hey all Wanted to update you. The feedback from my [Drive Safe post](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg78us driving_safe ) and a few other comments was great. You guys seem to like when I m talking to you and telling you what s going on behind the scenes or how the mods are thinking. I hope the feedback is good on this post and we can have more of this. I hope you all know by now that we have been chill on Rule 1 this month. Remember you only have 10 days left till we go back to not being chill on Rule 1. I have had a ton of feedback on pictures of Tesla s. We allowed them at the start of the month then it became so bad we had to remove the pictures. [Click here if you want more info about it.](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg78us driving_safe ggd2j6i ) To beat rule 1. If you are going to be taking a picture of your Tesla or a Tesla in general. Please have a write up that goes into the comments or even make it a text post with a link to the picture. This picture should be of a mod wrap (that you did yourself and have a list of tools you used) etc. to the car. In the comments you have to have a write up on how you did the mod or whatever it was. [example click here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg878f wrapped_my_model_3_matte_black_myself ). To go along with the Tesla car pictures if you post a photo of you sitting inside a Tesla watching something or camp mode that will fall under rule 1 and be removed. The reason we remove these type of posts is because the sub would be overwhelmed with pictures just like we saw the first two weeks of this month. A lot of you reached out we are listening. ____ **NOW! On to the fun stuff** The Xmas update is right around the corner. There will be a mega thread just like every other update. Please only post things about the update in that mega thread. I know that a lot of you will not read this and just post anyway but it will be removed. The sub will be spammed with updates about it. I bet we will get a ton of screenshots of the update downloading. I even bet that Elon will tweet about it happening and have screenshots of his tweet. If it gets really bad we will lock the sub from new posts and forward everything to the mega thread just like we do with events. We do this so everyone can enjoy the sub. We have seen spamming of the sub during the Cybertruck event and other event. The Cybertruck event was bad and mods had to relock the sub after 24 hours. Mods will approve posts as they come in just like we have with other events. ____ We (mods) are listening and welcome feedback. Please enjoy the sub. I will be active in this post if you have any questions. Almost forgot. The [mods](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors about moderators) wanted to say thank you to the people that said thanks for modding the sub. We saw your comments it does put a smile on our face. Happy holidays! | Thank you! This place shouldn t be flooded with pictures of tesla s the model subs are for that. | Exciting!! | 29 | 2 | 7,829 |
khwdzs | 563 | Purchase Nightmare Mods please remove if not allowed. I m just frustrated and sad and lonely and don t know where else to rant. Purchasing from Tesla has been the WORST customer service experience I ve ever had in my life and am thoroughly shocked this is even happening. Last week on Sunday (the 13th of Dec) I got a call from a Tesla sales team member because I left a vm inquiring about trade-ins. She sent me a link and my info to the local gallery. The next day (Monday the 14th) the gallery support team reaches out to me and says there s a great deal on a slightly used showroom Model 3 (it had about 1800 miles on it and they were taking off $2700). That combined with my trade-in suddenly made my dream of owning a Tesla affordable. So I put my $100 deposit down called the bank THAT day and applied for a loan for the remaining amount. The gallery rep and the sales rep tell me it s only $500 to have the car delivered to the local gallery or I could drive the 4 hours down to Austin to pick up the car. I opt to drive down since it s really not \\*too\\* far. They assign me a delivery specialist who sent me a text through some automated system. They send me the finale MVPA (motor vehicle purchase agreement) on Wednesday with a huge error. I call the delivery team and they fix it and send it back- I ask if I could have the car delivered and the delivery team person says it s actually $750 and that it s too late . No worries I ll take that L. I send Tesla my insurance card which was a Cali insurance card (I was stationed Cali and hadn t changed it to a Texas card quite yet). I send the bank the finalized MVPA and they send me the loan documents which I sign right away. They overnight a check to Tesla the night of the 17th. I get a text from that same number from earlier saying my pickup appointment is set for Sun the 20th in Austin. I m so stoked. I m riding the high all of Thursday and all of Friday. I call my new commander and tell him the situation and he gives me a pass to not work on Sunday so I can go pick up my Model 3. & #x200B Now comes the start of the headache. The morning (0828) of Sat the 19th (a day before pickup) I get a text from this same number saying my payment is still due and that my insurance card needs to be a Texas ID card and that they re rescheduling my appointment to the 23rd. So I spend my morning making frantic calls to the bank and USAA. The bank tells me the check was overnighted and they even emailed Tesla a copy of the shipping label and the check. They even send me an email forward of what they send the Tesla team. I immediately send this info to the gallery support team as well as my updated Texas insurance policy (it is now 0939). I respond to the text I got from Tesla and ask them to confirm BOTH documents. They respond at 1125 saying they have confirmed receiving them. I then get a call from the local delivery team in Ft Worth saying my pick up is scheduled for Dec 20 at 12 in Ft Worth and NOT Austin. I reach out to the Tesla team and get no response. No one is picking up calls no one is answering texts. I get a text at 1632 saying my payment is pending (despite confirmed payment was received AND cleared both via text and email) in Austin and not Ft Worth. I send them a text explaining how it s b been confirmed and sent already (I re-sent them the payment ordeal with screenshots of the text exchange) at 1814. By this point I go ahead and accept that I won t be getting my Model 3 on Sunday and now have to call my commander and explain the debacle and see if I can work on Sunday and take Wednesday off. He s a little irked but understands- cool. At 1841 Gallery Support team sends me an email saying I have completed all necessary steps to pick up my Tesla model 3 and that I am good to go- they even CC d the local support team in Austin. & #x200B I get an email on Sunday the 20th saying I need to payoff the remaining balance prior to delivery. wtf.jpeg. I log into my Tesla account and see this message except the balance due is $0.00. I email gallery support team and send screenshots of what I see- they respond saying not to worry about it and to disregard this. & #x200B Today (Monday the 21) at 1745 I get a text from Tesla saying my insurance card is not for Texas. When they very clearly said they have received and validated my updated Texas policy on Sat the 19th. And that they were going to reschedule my pickup if my temp tags couldn t be cleared. I call my commander and explain I might have to reschedule and he says absolutely not. I call Tesla irate because they ve now had all the proper documents since Sat around 1000hrs they ve confirmed everything was perfect and decide roughly 48 hrs prior to pickup that something isn t right. Gallery rep says it s not their fault and blames the local team in Austin and that she ll send them an email to say that all the docs are in order and tells me I m good. I m willing to bet Tesla will send a text tomorrow saying some other document has suddenly disappeared despite them having it three days ago. I m just incredibly frustrated and don t know what else to do. It s left a terribly taste in my mouth and am really considering just taking the L on my $100 deposit and canceling the order all together. I ll have the bank cancel the check and rescind the loan (if that s even possible?). & #x200B End rant. Thank you for reading this far. TL DR- Tesla team apparently has no communication internally and has made a supposedly seamless process a nightmare and half for my pickup. & #x200B & #x200B & #x200B UPDATE: I certainly did not expect to have this post gain so much traction so I really appreciate you all listening and commenting (even some awards!). It s been about a week since I last posted so I wanted to update everyone. I did not get my car on Wednesday however the very next day after my post I got a few messages on reddit and even a few calls directly to my phone (my name is in my username) saying that Tesla monitors forums pretty closely and that they d like a chance to fix the debacle described above. The manager from the local gallery took personal responsibility for getting my car to me. He was an amazing point man and ensured I was updated and kept me in the loop- I m not sure if he managed to have the car delivered from Austin to Ft Worth or if that was in the works already but either way it seems he saved me a road trip. He even came to the delivery center in Ft Worth to personally apologize and left some goodies in the frunk. So as it stands I am the proud owner of a 2020 Model 3- and you guys were right it s like driving a spaceship. While I miss my 300hp sports car there s something entirely different about my car basically driving itself to my mum s for the weekend and then back. I don t think I can ever go back to a gas powered car for a daily vehicle ever again! Shout out to Mat and the Tesla team for making this happen and fixing the mistakes! & #x200B & #x200B | Imagine in 2020 and major institutions still mail paper checks around for financial transactions. | Took me several weeks just to get in touch with someone at Tesla that was willing to sell me something. Internal communication is definitely an issue over at Tesla. Haven t had to deal with service yet but I think that s going to depend more on the service center. Sales definitely needs some help though. | 119 | 2 | 7,830 |
khwdzs | 563 | Purchase Nightmare Mods please remove if not allowed. I m just frustrated and sad and lonely and don t know where else to rant. Purchasing from Tesla has been the WORST customer service experience I ve ever had in my life and am thoroughly shocked this is even happening. Last week on Sunday (the 13th of Dec) I got a call from a Tesla sales team member because I left a vm inquiring about trade-ins. She sent me a link and my info to the local gallery. The next day (Monday the 14th) the gallery support team reaches out to me and says there s a great deal on a slightly used showroom Model 3 (it had about 1800 miles on it and they were taking off $2700). That combined with my trade-in suddenly made my dream of owning a Tesla affordable. So I put my $100 deposit down called the bank THAT day and applied for a loan for the remaining amount. The gallery rep and the sales rep tell me it s only $500 to have the car delivered to the local gallery or I could drive the 4 hours down to Austin to pick up the car. I opt to drive down since it s really not \\*too\\* far. They assign me a delivery specialist who sent me a text through some automated system. They send me the finale MVPA (motor vehicle purchase agreement) on Wednesday with a huge error. I call the delivery team and they fix it and send it back- I ask if I could have the car delivered and the delivery team person says it s actually $750 and that it s too late . No worries I ll take that L. I send Tesla my insurance card which was a Cali insurance card (I was stationed Cali and hadn t changed it to a Texas card quite yet). I send the bank the finalized MVPA and they send me the loan documents which I sign right away. They overnight a check to Tesla the night of the 17th. I get a text from that same number from earlier saying my pickup appointment is set for Sun the 20th in Austin. I m so stoked. I m riding the high all of Thursday and all of Friday. I call my new commander and tell him the situation and he gives me a pass to not work on Sunday so I can go pick up my Model 3. & #x200B Now comes the start of the headache. The morning (0828) of Sat the 19th (a day before pickup) I get a text from this same number saying my payment is still due and that my insurance card needs to be a Texas ID card and that they re rescheduling my appointment to the 23rd. So I spend my morning making frantic calls to the bank and USAA. The bank tells me the check was overnighted and they even emailed Tesla a copy of the shipping label and the check. They even send me an email forward of what they send the Tesla team. I immediately send this info to the gallery support team as well as my updated Texas insurance policy (it is now 0939). I respond to the text I got from Tesla and ask them to confirm BOTH documents. They respond at 1125 saying they have confirmed receiving them. I then get a call from the local delivery team in Ft Worth saying my pick up is scheduled for Dec 20 at 12 in Ft Worth and NOT Austin. I reach out to the Tesla team and get no response. No one is picking up calls no one is answering texts. I get a text at 1632 saying my payment is pending (despite confirmed payment was received AND cleared both via text and email) in Austin and not Ft Worth. I send them a text explaining how it s b been confirmed and sent already (I re-sent them the payment ordeal with screenshots of the text exchange) at 1814. By this point I go ahead and accept that I won t be getting my Model 3 on Sunday and now have to call my commander and explain the debacle and see if I can work on Sunday and take Wednesday off. He s a little irked but understands- cool. At 1841 Gallery Support team sends me an email saying I have completed all necessary steps to pick up my Tesla model 3 and that I am good to go- they even CC d the local support team in Austin. & #x200B I get an email on Sunday the 20th saying I need to payoff the remaining balance prior to delivery. wtf.jpeg. I log into my Tesla account and see this message except the balance due is $0.00. I email gallery support team and send screenshots of what I see- they respond saying not to worry about it and to disregard this. & #x200B Today (Monday the 21) at 1745 I get a text from Tesla saying my insurance card is not for Texas. When they very clearly said they have received and validated my updated Texas policy on Sat the 19th. And that they were going to reschedule my pickup if my temp tags couldn t be cleared. I call my commander and explain I might have to reschedule and he says absolutely not. I call Tesla irate because they ve now had all the proper documents since Sat around 1000hrs they ve confirmed everything was perfect and decide roughly 48 hrs prior to pickup that something isn t right. Gallery rep says it s not their fault and blames the local team in Austin and that she ll send them an email to say that all the docs are in order and tells me I m good. I m willing to bet Tesla will send a text tomorrow saying some other document has suddenly disappeared despite them having it three days ago. I m just incredibly frustrated and don t know what else to do. It s left a terribly taste in my mouth and am really considering just taking the L on my $100 deposit and canceling the order all together. I ll have the bank cancel the check and rescind the loan (if that s even possible?). & #x200B End rant. Thank you for reading this far. TL DR- Tesla team apparently has no communication internally and has made a supposedly seamless process a nightmare and half for my pickup. & #x200B & #x200B & #x200B UPDATE: I certainly did not expect to have this post gain so much traction so I really appreciate you all listening and commenting (even some awards!). It s been about a week since I last posted so I wanted to update everyone. I did not get my car on Wednesday however the very next day after my post I got a few messages on reddit and even a few calls directly to my phone (my name is in my username) saying that Tesla monitors forums pretty closely and that they d like a chance to fix the debacle described above. The manager from the local gallery took personal responsibility for getting my car to me. He was an amazing point man and ensured I was updated and kept me in the loop- I m not sure if he managed to have the car delivered from Austin to Ft Worth or if that was in the works already but either way it seems he saved me a road trip. He even came to the delivery center in Ft Worth to personally apologize and left some goodies in the frunk. So as it stands I am the proud owner of a 2020 Model 3- and you guys were right it s like driving a spaceship. While I miss my 300hp sports car there s something entirely different about my car basically driving itself to my mum s for the weekend and then back. I don t think I can ever go back to a gas powered car for a daily vehicle ever again! Shout out to Mat and the Tesla team for making this happen and fixing the mistakes! & #x200B & #x200B | Imagine in 2020 and major institutions still mail paper checks around for financial transactions. | My experience at Tesla in Indy has been great so far. | 119 | 2 | 7,831 |
khwdzs | 563 | Purchase Nightmare Mods please remove if not allowed. I m just frustrated and sad and lonely and don t know where else to rant. Purchasing from Tesla has been the WORST customer service experience I ve ever had in my life and am thoroughly shocked this is even happening. Last week on Sunday (the 13th of Dec) I got a call from a Tesla sales team member because I left a vm inquiring about trade-ins. She sent me a link and my info to the local gallery. The next day (Monday the 14th) the gallery support team reaches out to me and says there s a great deal on a slightly used showroom Model 3 (it had about 1800 miles on it and they were taking off $2700). That combined with my trade-in suddenly made my dream of owning a Tesla affordable. So I put my $100 deposit down called the bank THAT day and applied for a loan for the remaining amount. The gallery rep and the sales rep tell me it s only $500 to have the car delivered to the local gallery or I could drive the 4 hours down to Austin to pick up the car. I opt to drive down since it s really not \\*too\\* far. They assign me a delivery specialist who sent me a text through some automated system. They send me the finale MVPA (motor vehicle purchase agreement) on Wednesday with a huge error. I call the delivery team and they fix it and send it back- I ask if I could have the car delivered and the delivery team person says it s actually $750 and that it s too late . No worries I ll take that L. I send Tesla my insurance card which was a Cali insurance card (I was stationed Cali and hadn t changed it to a Texas card quite yet). I send the bank the finalized MVPA and they send me the loan documents which I sign right away. They overnight a check to Tesla the night of the 17th. I get a text from that same number from earlier saying my pickup appointment is set for Sun the 20th in Austin. I m so stoked. I m riding the high all of Thursday and all of Friday. I call my new commander and tell him the situation and he gives me a pass to not work on Sunday so I can go pick up my Model 3. & #x200B Now comes the start of the headache. The morning (0828) of Sat the 19th (a day before pickup) I get a text from this same number saying my payment is still due and that my insurance card needs to be a Texas ID card and that they re rescheduling my appointment to the 23rd. So I spend my morning making frantic calls to the bank and USAA. The bank tells me the check was overnighted and they even emailed Tesla a copy of the shipping label and the check. They even send me an email forward of what they send the Tesla team. I immediately send this info to the gallery support team as well as my updated Texas insurance policy (it is now 0939). I respond to the text I got from Tesla and ask them to confirm BOTH documents. They respond at 1125 saying they have confirmed receiving them. I then get a call from the local delivery team in Ft Worth saying my pick up is scheduled for Dec 20 at 12 in Ft Worth and NOT Austin. I reach out to the Tesla team and get no response. No one is picking up calls no one is answering texts. I get a text at 1632 saying my payment is pending (despite confirmed payment was received AND cleared both via text and email) in Austin and not Ft Worth. I send them a text explaining how it s b been confirmed and sent already (I re-sent them the payment ordeal with screenshots of the text exchange) at 1814. By this point I go ahead and accept that I won t be getting my Model 3 on Sunday and now have to call my commander and explain the debacle and see if I can work on Sunday and take Wednesday off. He s a little irked but understands- cool. At 1841 Gallery Support team sends me an email saying I have completed all necessary steps to pick up my Tesla model 3 and that I am good to go- they even CC d the local support team in Austin. & #x200B I get an email on Sunday the 20th saying I need to payoff the remaining balance prior to delivery. wtf.jpeg. I log into my Tesla account and see this message except the balance due is $0.00. I email gallery support team and send screenshots of what I see- they respond saying not to worry about it and to disregard this. & #x200B Today (Monday the 21) at 1745 I get a text from Tesla saying my insurance card is not for Texas. When they very clearly said they have received and validated my updated Texas policy on Sat the 19th. And that they were going to reschedule my pickup if my temp tags couldn t be cleared. I call my commander and explain I might have to reschedule and he says absolutely not. I call Tesla irate because they ve now had all the proper documents since Sat around 1000hrs they ve confirmed everything was perfect and decide roughly 48 hrs prior to pickup that something isn t right. Gallery rep says it s not their fault and blames the local team in Austin and that she ll send them an email to say that all the docs are in order and tells me I m good. I m willing to bet Tesla will send a text tomorrow saying some other document has suddenly disappeared despite them having it three days ago. I m just incredibly frustrated and don t know what else to do. It s left a terribly taste in my mouth and am really considering just taking the L on my $100 deposit and canceling the order all together. I ll have the bank cancel the check and rescind the loan (if that s even possible?). & #x200B End rant. Thank you for reading this far. TL DR- Tesla team apparently has no communication internally and has made a supposedly seamless process a nightmare and half for my pickup. & #x200B & #x200B & #x200B UPDATE: I certainly did not expect to have this post gain so much traction so I really appreciate you all listening and commenting (even some awards!). It s been about a week since I last posted so I wanted to update everyone. I did not get my car on Wednesday however the very next day after my post I got a few messages on reddit and even a few calls directly to my phone (my name is in my username) saying that Tesla monitors forums pretty closely and that they d like a chance to fix the debacle described above. The manager from the local gallery took personal responsibility for getting my car to me. He was an amazing point man and ensured I was updated and kept me in the loop- I m not sure if he managed to have the car delivered from Austin to Ft Worth or if that was in the works already but either way it seems he saved me a road trip. He even came to the delivery center in Ft Worth to personally apologize and left some goodies in the frunk. So as it stands I am the proud owner of a 2020 Model 3- and you guys were right it s like driving a spaceship. While I miss my 300hp sports car there s something entirely different about my car basically driving itself to my mum s for the weekend and then back. I don t think I can ever go back to a gas powered car for a daily vehicle ever again! Shout out to Mat and the Tesla team for making this happen and fixing the mistakes! & #x200B & #x200B | Imagine in 2020 and major institutions still mail paper checks around for financial transactions. | Seems things haven t changed much since my own delivery in Sept 2018. | 119 | 2 | 7,832 |
kj22uw | 61 | While we all eagerly wait for the Holiday Update what are some features you are hoping they add? Mine is the ability to fart using the external speaker! It will come in clutch when pedestrians are taking too long to cross the road :) | * Cross-traffic alert. * HW3 enhanced smart autopark. * FSD Vector-space birds-eye-view parking visualizations. * Autonomy-day-style screen visualizations. * Left Right camera prompt when using indicators. * Curtosey horn (a more gentle horn prompt people to go on green etc) and polite horn (alert pedestrians in parking lots). * In-app route planning to forward to the car with... * ... Map waypoints (more or less confirmed). * Device-to-screen mirroring. * Nest-style sentrymode video scrubbing. * Multi-tiered remote sentrymode viewing (remote viewing is confirmed in some capacity already). > Tier 1 - Free. Stream one camera at a time with an upper limit per day. > Tier 2 - Paid subscription (bundled with premium connectivity). Stream all cameras all the time with automatic upload to a personal FTP or cloud service when parked at home. * iOS Homekit Siri Shortcuts Google home Alexa integration (would be useful for replacing Homelink to open garage doors. You could also do things like flash lights based on battery charge windows doors left open more intricate home away setups etc). * Left-unplugged-reminder when at favourite locations. * Allow controlling of spotify with the native app when your source is bluetooth. * Apple music. | Facial recognition to replace PIN to drive. | 80 | 3 | 7,833 |
kj22uw | 61 | While we all eagerly wait for the Holiday Update what are some features you are hoping they add? Mine is the ability to fart using the external speaker! It will come in clutch when pedestrians are taking too long to cross the road :) | * Cross-traffic alert. * HW3 enhanced smart autopark. * FSD Vector-space birds-eye-view parking visualizations. * Autonomy-day-style screen visualizations. * Left Right camera prompt when using indicators. * Curtosey horn (a more gentle horn prompt people to go on green etc) and polite horn (alert pedestrians in parking lots). * In-app route planning to forward to the car with... * ... Map waypoints (more or less confirmed). * Device-to-screen mirroring. * Nest-style sentrymode video scrubbing. * Multi-tiered remote sentrymode viewing (remote viewing is confirmed in some capacity already). > Tier 1 - Free. Stream one camera at a time with an upper limit per day. > Tier 2 - Paid subscription (bundled with premium connectivity). Stream all cameras all the time with automatic upload to a personal FTP or cloud service when parked at home. * iOS Homekit Siri Shortcuts Google home Alexa integration (would be useful for replacing Homelink to open garage doors. You could also do things like flash lights based on battery charge windows doors left open more intricate home away setups etc). * Left-unplugged-reminder when at favourite locations. * Allow controlling of spotify with the native app when your source is bluetooth. * Apple music. | Some form of FSD... perhaps requiring confirmations for turns? | 80 | 7 | 7,834 |
kj22uw | 61 | While we all eagerly wait for the Holiday Update what are some features you are hoping they add? Mine is the ability to fart using the external speaker! It will come in clutch when pedestrians are taking too long to cross the road :) | * Cross-traffic alert. * HW3 enhanced smart autopark. * FSD Vector-space birds-eye-view parking visualizations. * Autonomy-day-style screen visualizations. * Left Right camera prompt when using indicators. * Curtosey horn (a more gentle horn prompt people to go on green etc) and polite horn (alert pedestrians in parking lots). * In-app route planning to forward to the car with... * ... Map waypoints (more or less confirmed). * Device-to-screen mirroring. * Nest-style sentrymode video scrubbing. * Multi-tiered remote sentrymode viewing (remote viewing is confirmed in some capacity already). > Tier 1 - Free. Stream one camera at a time with an upper limit per day. > Tier 2 - Paid subscription (bundled with premium connectivity). Stream all cameras all the time with automatic upload to a personal FTP or cloud service when parked at home. * iOS Homekit Siri Shortcuts Google home Alexa integration (would be useful for replacing Homelink to open garage doors. You could also do things like flash lights based on battery charge windows doors left open more intricate home away setups etc). * Left-unplugged-reminder when at favourite locations. * Allow controlling of spotify with the native app when your source is bluetooth. * Apple music. | Auto steer on surface streets Audible.com | 80 | 8 | 7,835 |
kj2a53 | 28 | Idea for M3 Y Pseudo Heated Steering Wheel Software Update Since the vents are all software controlled Tesla could add an option to blast the vents right at the steering wheel when you are preheating the cars interior. Then switch the vents back to a normal configuration when you open the door and get in the car. | Or they can release a cold weather package with heated steering wheel. Would just need a wiring retrofit. | I never understood why a heated steering wheel is a big deal idk this is my first feature full car so maybe my poor ass is missing out 😂. That said I think you re idea is genius simple solution the leather faux leather would hold the heat pretty well. Someone with power should tweet Elon. | 40 | 2 | 7,836 |
kjha2w | 179 | Update: I d like to purchase the Performance Package upgrade for my husband s Model 3 (dual engine) for his birthday Christmas this year. Any advice? Thank you all so much for your advice and comments on my original post. I was so impressed with how genuinely helpful and non-judgmental this group is! It really meant a lot to me! Here s the update I promised... I purchased the Acceleration Boost upgrade while my husband was in the shower this morning. He was in a rush to deliver some gifts to extended family about an hour away and I am not sure if the update completed before he left or what messages he might ve received as he drove away. The funny thing is if he did receive a congratulations on your upgrade type of message I bet he is just freaking out thinking he accidentally did it himself somehow and OMG Luisapet is not going to be happy when she finds out that I did this without discussing with her and there s no way she ll believe it was an accident! Ha ha. Can t wait til he gets home! Thank you all again and best wishes to you and your loved ones for peaceful holidays and a better year ahead! | You re going to update again when he figures it out ... right?? | He ll be able to deliver those gifts in record time! | 50 | 3 | 7,837 |
kjq5sm | 282 | ‘Twas the night before Christmas... ‘Twas the night before Christmas and all round the land Tesla owners were anxious charging cables in hand. They plugged in X s and Y s their S s and 3 s with visions of what V11 s big Update might be. A game or two sure that was most guaranteed but this update was fire according to Elon‘s Twitter feed. Will it bring sentry mode streaming a brand new UI? Could this be the day that we get full self drive? Maybe new views for our cameras to help us back up or tweaks to DogMode to comfort our pup. Some hope to fart through outdoor speakers or birds-eye POV Disney+ integration did I mention FSD? With so many features teased over 2020 and Elon hinting at updates aplenty expectations were high release dates unknown our Tesla s are waiting in garages alone. Please Elon please as we patiently wait given us a hint a clue on our next big update. Merry Christmas to all from the earth up to heaven now hit that button and push out our gift V11. | I think that Elon just had a typo when spelling late and ended up spelling lit which led to the flame emoji popping up. He meant to say the holiday update was going to be late. | Credit to the Twitter @s that wrote this? | 92 | 2 | 7,838 |
kjq5sm | 282 | ‘Twas the night before Christmas... ‘Twas the night before Christmas and all round the land Tesla owners were anxious charging cables in hand. They plugged in X s and Y s their S s and 3 s with visions of what V11 s big Update might be. A game or two sure that was most guaranteed but this update was fire according to Elon‘s Twitter feed. Will it bring sentry mode streaming a brand new UI? Could this be the day that we get full self drive? Maybe new views for our cameras to help us back up or tweaks to DogMode to comfort our pup. Some hope to fart through outdoor speakers or birds-eye POV Disney+ integration did I mention FSD? With so many features teased over 2020 and Elon hinting at updates aplenty expectations were high release dates unknown our Tesla s are waiting in garages alone. Please Elon please as we patiently wait given us a hint a clue on our next big update. Merry Christmas to all from the earth up to heaven now hit that button and push out our gift V11. | I think that Elon just had a typo when spelling late and ended up spelling lit which led to the flame emoji popping up. He meant to say the holiday update was going to be late. | If the leak was correct this will be the most disappointing thing I ve ever witnessed | 92 | 13 | 7,839 |
kjq5sm | 282 | ‘Twas the night before Christmas... ‘Twas the night before Christmas and all round the land Tesla owners were anxious charging cables in hand. They plugged in X s and Y s their S s and 3 s with visions of what V11 s big Update might be. A game or two sure that was most guaranteed but this update was fire according to Elon‘s Twitter feed. Will it bring sentry mode streaming a brand new UI? Could this be the day that we get full self drive? Maybe new views for our cameras to help us back up or tweaks to DogMode to comfort our pup. Some hope to fart through outdoor speakers or birds-eye POV Disney+ integration did I mention FSD? With so many features teased over 2020 and Elon hinting at updates aplenty expectations were high release dates unknown our Tesla s are waiting in garages alone. Please Elon please as we patiently wait given us a hint a clue on our next big update. Merry Christmas to all from the earth up to heaven now hit that button and push out our gift V11. | I think that Elon just had a typo when spelling late and ended up spelling lit which led to the flame emoji popping up. He meant to say the holiday update was going to be late. | The only news we got today was that one user in Norway claims he got the holiday build which had a very surprising build number and a very surprising list of features in it. Either Tesla only pushed the update to a single user in Norway or a there is a Norwegian who knows how to use photoshop... I doubt they ll release the update tomorrow (it s a holiday they probably won t have engineers working to release monitor the deployment) so I m guessing the release will come on Monday? | 92 | 16 | 7,840 |
kk2yi4 | 360 | 2020.48.26 “Holiday” Software Update Megathread **2020.48.26** and **2020.48.25** has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about Tesla vehicles updates [here](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). **Release Notes** - This is part 1 of 2 (per Elon) - Release Notes Improvements - New Arcade Features: The Battle of Polytopia Cat Quest Solitaire - New Toybox Features: Boombox (Add audio to your external speakers + custom sounds) - Driving Visualization Improvements - Scheduled Departure Improvements - Emissions Testing Mode Improvements - Supercharger Display Improvements - Vehicle Information Improvements - pssst more to come soon (like week or two soon) ya know if Free Updates to your car on Christmas still makes you unhappy (my words not Tesla s lol) Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: * [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. * [Teslascope](https: www.teslascope.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. * [TeslaFi](https: www.teslafi.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Please refer to the release note link for more specifics on vehicles. Your software versions may not be pushed to your car in any specific order and are deployed in batches. | Alright who is going to be first to set the car outside sound as move bitch get out the way? | My install might be stuck at 10% | 290 | 2 | 7,841 |
kk2yi4 | 360 | 2020.48.26 “Holiday” Software Update Megathread **2020.48.26** and **2020.48.25** has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about Tesla vehicles updates [here](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). **Release Notes** - This is part 1 of 2 (per Elon) - Release Notes Improvements - New Arcade Features: The Battle of Polytopia Cat Quest Solitaire - New Toybox Features: Boombox (Add audio to your external speakers + custom sounds) - Driving Visualization Improvements - Scheduled Departure Improvements - Emissions Testing Mode Improvements - Supercharger Display Improvements - Vehicle Information Improvements - pssst more to come soon (like week or two soon) ya know if Free Updates to your car on Christmas still makes you unhappy (my words not Tesla s lol) Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: * [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. * [Teslascope](https: www.teslascope.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. * [TeslaFi](https: www.teslafi.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Please refer to the release note link for more specifics on vehicles. Your software versions may not be pushed to your car in any specific order and are deployed in batches. | Alright who is going to be first to set the car outside sound as move bitch get out the way? | Installing | 290 | 2 | 7,842 |
kk2yi4 | 360 | 2020.48.26 “Holiday” Software Update Megathread **2020.48.26** and **2020.48.25** has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about Tesla vehicles updates [here](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). **Release Notes** - This is part 1 of 2 (per Elon) - Release Notes Improvements - New Arcade Features: The Battle of Polytopia Cat Quest Solitaire - New Toybox Features: Boombox (Add audio to your external speakers + custom sounds) - Driving Visualization Improvements - Scheduled Departure Improvements - Emissions Testing Mode Improvements - Supercharger Display Improvements - Vehicle Information Improvements - pssst more to come soon (like week or two soon) ya know if Free Updates to your car on Christmas still makes you unhappy (my words not Tesla s lol) Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: * [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. * [Teslascope](https: www.teslascope.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. * [TeslaFi](https: www.teslafi.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Please refer to the release note link for more specifics on vehicles. Your software versions may not be pushed to your car in any specific order and are deployed in batches. | Alright who is going to be first to set the car outside sound as move bitch get out the way? | I don t know what happened with the .25-15xx version I downloaded last night but there s no sign of it on any trackers I ve seen. And the car tells me it s still up to date. 🤣 | 290 | 2 | 7,843 |
kk6j87 | 23 | Notes from some “Boombox Trials” External honk audio is only applicable when parked. Any other time it is just the classic honk sound. For the other modes the PWS system still always plays. The other sounds will just play on top of that. So you couldn t do a custom silent file to get rid of the noise. While a cool concept overall and I understand the reasoning rules kind of disappointed I can t have some idiot that cuts me off hear my wrath. Edit: also works in private areas such as parking lots you will however still hear your custom sounds anywhere internally which can be quite amusing | I was just honking La Cucaracha all over my neighborhood. Confirmed works while driving. | That s disappointing. I mean I get it s for legal reasons but I feel like we should still be able to play the honk sounds in addition while driving like the other ones. | 39 | 2 | 7,844 |
kkbf0d | 48 | Anyone else not a fan of the new Tesla U.I Home Screen Just want to hear some takes. Personally never found the visualization provided to be that helpful or important. Would prefer to have the larger maps screen. | I ve learned that it doesn t matter what I think and just accept that they will change it all the time. I first started using Firmware v5 in 2013 and they drastically change it almost every year. I like larger maps but when they made the map the primary screen there were people that complained about it. They liked to drive with the camera on all the time and the music on the lower part. So there is always something to be unhappy about. | I would like to get rid of the endless cones for everything with HW2.5 | 90 | 3 | 7,845 |
kkbf0d | 48 | Anyone else not a fan of the new Tesla U.I Home Screen Just want to hear some takes. Personally never found the visualization provided to be that helpful or important. Would prefer to have the larger maps screen. | I ve learned that it doesn t matter what I think and just accept that they will change it all the time. I first started using Firmware v5 in 2013 and they drastically change it almost every year. I like larger maps but when they made the map the primary screen there were people that complained about it. They liked to drive with the camera on all the time and the music on the lower part. So there is always something to be unhappy about. | I love it. I like the row of icons on the left. Clearly setting the stage for FSD visualisation. And also getting closer to the Cybertruck UI from a year ago. | 90 | 6 | 7,846 |
kkbf0d | 48 | Anyone else not a fan of the new Tesla U.I Home Screen Just want to hear some takes. Personally never found the visualization provided to be that helpful or important. Would prefer to have the larger maps screen. | I ve learned that it doesn t matter what I think and just accept that they will change it all the time. I first started using Firmware v5 in 2013 and they drastically change it almost every year. I like larger maps but when they made the map the primary screen there were people that complained about it. They liked to drive with the camera on all the time and the music on the lower part. So there is always something to be unhappy about. | It ll probably make more sense when there s a lot more visualization happening on that side of the screen like during the Autonomy Day demos. | 90 | 23 | 7,847 |
kkouh9 | 71 | FSD beta expansion to the rest of EAP by Beta 11 [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1342909163903455233](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1342909163903455233) \\> When will you expand the FSD beta to the rest of early access program? Elon replied: A few more revisions needed. Probably Beta 10 or 11. Currently on beta 8. | > Probably #PROBABLY Can we please stop dropping the important words in titles? | I don t think it ll be with EAP that long. Just enough to test it out to make sure. Remember each time they add more people it will be exponentially better faster to improve. It sounds like they re getting pretty close. Everything else with subscriptions still points to an early 2021. Guessing around March public will start getting it. | 39 | 3 | 7,848 |
kkouh9 | 71 | FSD beta expansion to the rest of EAP by Beta 11 [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1342909163903455233](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1342909163903455233) \\> When will you expand the FSD beta to the rest of early access program? Elon replied: A few more revisions needed. Probably Beta 10 or 11. Currently on beta 8. | Reaaaally regretting FSD purchase. Car won t live long enough to see FSD. EAP is BS. No way to sign up no criteria for membership released. | I don t think it ll be with EAP that long. Just enough to test it out to make sure. Remember each time they add more people it will be exponentially better faster to improve. It sounds like they re getting pretty close. Everything else with subscriptions still points to an early 2021. Guessing around March public will start getting it. | 37 | 3 | 7,849 |
kkouh9 | 71 | FSD beta expansion to the rest of EAP by Beta 11 [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1342909163903455233](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1342909163903455233) \\> When will you expand the FSD beta to the rest of early access program? Elon replied: A few more revisions needed. Probably Beta 10 or 11. Currently on beta 8. | > Probably #PROBABLY Can we please stop dropping the important words in titles? | Here s me not holding my breath. | 39 | 6 | 7,850 |
kkoyfq | 546 | Wife: So now your $40k car sounds like an ice cream truck and makes fart noises? Me: Yep! Wife: Ok I m taking it for a spin! | I too choose this guy s wife | Still haven t gotten the update yet!!! Does Boombox still work if you don t have PWS? | 74 | 7 | 7,851 |
kkoyfq | 546 | Wife: So now your $40k car sounds like an ice cream truck and makes fart noises? Me: Yep! Wife: Ok I m taking it for a spin! | 😂 wait till you explain the acceleration boost for $2k and a half second faster! | Still haven t gotten the update yet!!! Does Boombox still work if you don t have PWS? | 50 | 7 | 7,852 |
kkoyfq | 546 | Wife: So now your $40k car sounds like an ice cream truck and makes fart noises? Me: Yep! Wife: Ok I m taking it for a spin! | 😂 wait till you explain the acceleration boost for $2k and a half second faster! | 80* thousand car thank you very much. | 50 | 7 | 7,853 |
kl1lcw | 68 | Boombox Pedestrian Warning Speaker FAQ I ve been seeing a lot of the same questions in the holiday update megathread so I thought I d answer a couple. ### Why don t I have Boombox? - If you are not on version 2020.48.26 (aka The Holiday Update ) or later you need to update. - If you have installed 2020.48.26 or later and Boombox was not listed in the release notes you do not have the required pedestrian warning speaker installed on your car. ### How do I know if I have the pedestrian warning speaker without installing the update? - In the US all cars made on or after March 1st 2021 should have them (at least that s what is required by the regulation). - Most* US Model 3s should have received it starting in September 2019. - EU cars may have it installed but not enabled. - Some EU folks in the comments have been mentioning that this is required on new cars in the EU - I m not 100% sure of the cutoff date though. - You can check by placing your car in reverse rolling your windows down and listening for a spaceship noise . You don t need to be moving to hear the noise. If you hear the noise you have the speaker. - You can also look for a speaker grille underneath the front bumper on the passenger side. If you find the speaker grille there but your car does not play sounds you can check to see if the speaker is installed by following along with [this video](https: youtu.be x5FG-RoVrdI?t=16). ### Can I retrofit the pedestrian warning speaker? Edit: [Elon has spoken] (https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1343098161322053632) a retrofit may be possible. ~~Unlikely as there is a new wiring harness required to hook up the speaker. Few cars were shipped with the necessary wiring harness but not the speaker. If you follow along with the video linked above and find that you do have the wiring harness but not the speaker you could theoretically install the speaker from the parts catalog. However you d also need to update the internal configuration of the car to reflect that you have the speaker installed which is not an easy task to do yourself.~~ ### Why don t I have the holiday update yet? - Make sure your car is connected to WiFi - Try switching your software update preference setting from Advanced to Standard or vice versa and then back. - The update has been favoring cars with the pedestrian speaker installed though it has been rolling out to a larger group recently. - If that doesn t work your car has not been selected for the update yet so stay within WiFi range and keep waiting for that notification! ### Why doesn t Boombox show my custom sound clips? Some troubleshooting tips for fixing custom Boombox sound clips: - Make sure you have a folder named Boombox at the top level of your flash drive SSD SD card - Make sure there are no spaces in the file names. - Use MP3 files - Try using a separate storage device from your usual Sentry Mode storage. - Check [this guide](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads v9-how-to-format-usb-into-2-partitions-for-dashcam-and-music-windows.132130 ) for more info on formatting the drive setting up other partitions ### How do I change the volume of the external speaker? - If you increase the volume on the screen (at the bottom right it will say Boombox under the volume icon) while the sound is playing it does increase the speaker volume on the outside of the car. (Thanks u chicagouber!) ### Does driving sound mean it will play all the time no matter what as long as I m driving? Does it affect the reverse-sound? - Yes the driving sound is played on top of the usual pedestrian warning sound while you re driving forward or backwards. ### Does replace horn actually replace the horn? Or does it add the sound in addition to the regular horn? - Replace horn does in fact replace the horn though as soon as you shift out of Park the setting gets automatically unchecked. So custom horn sounds will first play your usual horn honk followed by whatever clip you chose. ### Can I upload a “blank” audio file to remove the pedestrian noise? - Not at this time custom noises are currently played at the same time as the pedestrian warning noises. ### Why doesn t Boombox work on the next drive? - As of right now you have to re-enable the Boombox features you want to use every time you go for a drive. If I missed anything feel free to comment and I ll add it to the post. | I remember when all hated the speaker back when it got introduced. And now people want to do a retrofit 😂 | EU Cars certainly have the speaker since it became law last year i believe. | 32 | 2 | 7,854 |
kl1lcw | 68 | Boombox Pedestrian Warning Speaker FAQ I ve been seeing a lot of the same questions in the holiday update megathread so I thought I d answer a couple. ### Why don t I have Boombox? - If you are not on version 2020.48.26 (aka The Holiday Update ) or later you need to update. - If you have installed 2020.48.26 or later and Boombox was not listed in the release notes you do not have the required pedestrian warning speaker installed on your car. ### How do I know if I have the pedestrian warning speaker without installing the update? - In the US all cars made on or after March 1st 2021 should have them (at least that s what is required by the regulation). - Most* US Model 3s should have received it starting in September 2019. - EU cars may have it installed but not enabled. - Some EU folks in the comments have been mentioning that this is required on new cars in the EU - I m not 100% sure of the cutoff date though. - You can check by placing your car in reverse rolling your windows down and listening for a spaceship noise . You don t need to be moving to hear the noise. If you hear the noise you have the speaker. - You can also look for a speaker grille underneath the front bumper on the passenger side. If you find the speaker grille there but your car does not play sounds you can check to see if the speaker is installed by following along with [this video](https: youtu.be x5FG-RoVrdI?t=16). ### Can I retrofit the pedestrian warning speaker? Edit: [Elon has spoken] (https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1343098161322053632) a retrofit may be possible. ~~Unlikely as there is a new wiring harness required to hook up the speaker. Few cars were shipped with the necessary wiring harness but not the speaker. If you follow along with the video linked above and find that you do have the wiring harness but not the speaker you could theoretically install the speaker from the parts catalog. However you d also need to update the internal configuration of the car to reflect that you have the speaker installed which is not an easy task to do yourself.~~ ### Why don t I have the holiday update yet? - Make sure your car is connected to WiFi - Try switching your software update preference setting from Advanced to Standard or vice versa and then back. - The update has been favoring cars with the pedestrian speaker installed though it has been rolling out to a larger group recently. - If that doesn t work your car has not been selected for the update yet so stay within WiFi range and keep waiting for that notification! ### Why doesn t Boombox show my custom sound clips? Some troubleshooting tips for fixing custom Boombox sound clips: - Make sure you have a folder named Boombox at the top level of your flash drive SSD SD card - Make sure there are no spaces in the file names. - Use MP3 files - Try using a separate storage device from your usual Sentry Mode storage. - Check [this guide](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads v9-how-to-format-usb-into-2-partitions-for-dashcam-and-music-windows.132130 ) for more info on formatting the drive setting up other partitions ### How do I change the volume of the external speaker? - If you increase the volume on the screen (at the bottom right it will say Boombox under the volume icon) while the sound is playing it does increase the speaker volume on the outside of the car. (Thanks u chicagouber!) ### Does driving sound mean it will play all the time no matter what as long as I m driving? Does it affect the reverse-sound? - Yes the driving sound is played on top of the usual pedestrian warning sound while you re driving forward or backwards. ### Does replace horn actually replace the horn? Or does it add the sound in addition to the regular horn? - Replace horn does in fact replace the horn though as soon as you shift out of Park the setting gets automatically unchecked. So custom horn sounds will first play your usual horn honk followed by whatever clip you chose. ### Can I upload a “blank” audio file to remove the pedestrian noise? - Not at this time custom noises are currently played at the same time as the pedestrian warning noises. ### Why doesn t Boombox work on the next drive? - As of right now you have to re-enable the Boombox features you want to use every time you go for a drive. If I missed anything feel free to comment and I ll add it to the post. | I remember when all hated the speaker back when it got introduced. And now people want to do a retrofit 😂 | Yay retrofit! Would buy. Too much fun 😓 hard fomo | 32 | 3 | 7,855 |
kl1lcw | 68 | Boombox Pedestrian Warning Speaker FAQ I ve been seeing a lot of the same questions in the holiday update megathread so I thought I d answer a couple. ### Why don t I have Boombox? - If you are not on version 2020.48.26 (aka The Holiday Update ) or later you need to update. - If you have installed 2020.48.26 or later and Boombox was not listed in the release notes you do not have the required pedestrian warning speaker installed on your car. ### How do I know if I have the pedestrian warning speaker without installing the update? - In the US all cars made on or after March 1st 2021 should have them (at least that s what is required by the regulation). - Most* US Model 3s should have received it starting in September 2019. - EU cars may have it installed but not enabled. - Some EU folks in the comments have been mentioning that this is required on new cars in the EU - I m not 100% sure of the cutoff date though. - You can check by placing your car in reverse rolling your windows down and listening for a spaceship noise . You don t need to be moving to hear the noise. If you hear the noise you have the speaker. - You can also look for a speaker grille underneath the front bumper on the passenger side. If you find the speaker grille there but your car does not play sounds you can check to see if the speaker is installed by following along with [this video](https: youtu.be x5FG-RoVrdI?t=16). ### Can I retrofit the pedestrian warning speaker? Edit: [Elon has spoken] (https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1343098161322053632) a retrofit may be possible. ~~Unlikely as there is a new wiring harness required to hook up the speaker. Few cars were shipped with the necessary wiring harness but not the speaker. If you follow along with the video linked above and find that you do have the wiring harness but not the speaker you could theoretically install the speaker from the parts catalog. However you d also need to update the internal configuration of the car to reflect that you have the speaker installed which is not an easy task to do yourself.~~ ### Why don t I have the holiday update yet? - Make sure your car is connected to WiFi - Try switching your software update preference setting from Advanced to Standard or vice versa and then back. - The update has been favoring cars with the pedestrian speaker installed though it has been rolling out to a larger group recently. - If that doesn t work your car has not been selected for the update yet so stay within WiFi range and keep waiting for that notification! ### Why doesn t Boombox show my custom sound clips? Some troubleshooting tips for fixing custom Boombox sound clips: - Make sure you have a folder named Boombox at the top level of your flash drive SSD SD card - Make sure there are no spaces in the file names. - Use MP3 files - Try using a separate storage device from your usual Sentry Mode storage. - Check [this guide](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads v9-how-to-format-usb-into-2-partitions-for-dashcam-and-music-windows.132130 ) for more info on formatting the drive setting up other partitions ### How do I change the volume of the external speaker? - If you increase the volume on the screen (at the bottom right it will say Boombox under the volume icon) while the sound is playing it does increase the speaker volume on the outside of the car. (Thanks u chicagouber!) ### Does driving sound mean it will play all the time no matter what as long as I m driving? Does it affect the reverse-sound? - Yes the driving sound is played on top of the usual pedestrian warning sound while you re driving forward or backwards. ### Does replace horn actually replace the horn? Or does it add the sound in addition to the regular horn? - Replace horn does in fact replace the horn though as soon as you shift out of Park the setting gets automatically unchecked. So custom horn sounds will first play your usual horn honk followed by whatever clip you chose. ### Can I upload a “blank” audio file to remove the pedestrian noise? - Not at this time custom noises are currently played at the same time as the pedestrian warning noises. ### Why doesn t Boombox work on the next drive? - As of right now you have to re-enable the Boombox features you want to use every time you go for a drive. If I missed anything feel free to comment and I ll add it to the post. | I remember when all hated the speaker back when it got introduced. And now people want to do a retrofit 😂 | Has any one successfully got this to work on the same usb as the Sentry Cam? | 32 | 4 | 7,856 |
kl5op3 | 121 | Apple Watch Support Does anyone else want Apple Watch support for the Tesla app? It would be very convenient to be able to control certain aspects of the car without having to even take a phone out. I saw that there are third parties apps but I tend to be wary of them as I heard they drain much more battery from the car than first party software. | I d love Bluetooth and or NFC support just to unlock lock | Yes. Built in shortcuts app support would be nice too | 47 | 3 | 7,857 |
kl5op3 | 121 | Apple Watch Support Does anyone else want Apple Watch support for the Tesla app? It would be very convenient to be able to control certain aspects of the car without having to even take a phone out. I saw that there are third parties apps but I tend to be wary of them as I heard they drain much more battery from the car than first party software. | I d love Bluetooth and or NFC support just to unlock lock | Yes been hoping to get it since day one. But they have other priorities ... | 47 | 3 | 7,858 |
kl5op3 | 121 | Apple Watch Support Does anyone else want Apple Watch support for the Tesla app? It would be very convenient to be able to control certain aspects of the car without having to even take a phone out. I saw that there are third parties apps but I tend to be wary of them as I heard they drain much more battery from the car than first party software. | I d love Bluetooth and or NFC support just to unlock lock | Would be nice but Watch App For Tesla is a pretty good app for the Apple Watch! I use it everyday | 47 | 8 | 7,859 |
kli806 | 201 | Anyone else sort of like the old UI better? I was excited to try out the new UI and hopped into my car. The status indicators going down the left side is nice. But soon I begun to miss the old UI. Then I came home and saw the old UI again while watching the show Pike s Peak: On The Edge (great show btw). I think I liked the bigger number for speed and the bigger map of the old one. I also preferred that the cabin temp was centered on the screen. The bigger visualization is nice but I don t think its worth having a smaller speed readout and a smaller map screen. Just my $0.02 and didn t see any other posts about it. | They honestly just need two things to make it great: multiple configurations (or a slider edge drag) to change what percentage of the screen the driving visualization takes up A font size option like most OS s and E-readers have Edit: spelling | Agree | 91 | 9 | 7,860 |
kli806 | 201 | Anyone else sort of like the old UI better? I was excited to try out the new UI and hopped into my car. The status indicators going down the left side is nice. But soon I begun to miss the old UI. Then I came home and saw the old UI again while watching the show Pike s Peak: On The Edge (great show btw). I think I liked the bigger number for speed and the bigger map of the old one. I also preferred that the cabin temp was centered on the screen. The bigger visualization is nice but I don t think its worth having a smaller speed readout and a smaller map screen. Just my $0.02 and didn t see any other posts about it. | They honestly just need two things to make it great: multiple configurations (or a slider edge drag) to change what percentage of the screen the driving visualization takes up A font size option like most OS s and E-readers have Edit: spelling | Didn t see any posts about it? Ha. Only posts I ve seen have been about this and does my car have an external speaker? Elon already tweeted customizable layouts are coming. | 91 | 21 | 7,861 |
kli806 | 201 | Anyone else sort of like the old UI better? I was excited to try out the new UI and hopped into my car. The status indicators going down the left side is nice. But soon I begun to miss the old UI. Then I came home and saw the old UI again while watching the show Pike s Peak: On The Edge (great show btw). I think I liked the bigger number for speed and the bigger map of the old one. I also preferred that the cabin temp was centered on the screen. The bigger visualization is nice but I don t think its worth having a smaller speed readout and a smaller map screen. Just my $0.02 and didn t see any other posts about it. | I have been complaining about this since day one. I prefer a larger map and a larger screen when backing up. I don t have FSD and don t like picture of the car taking half of the screen. So yes the new UI sucks. | On the flip-side I think it s better. Give it a little time. | 68 | 2 | 7,862 |
kllu22 | 63 | Scheduled charging - now harder to use with the 2020.48.26 update I was really excited when I heard that the new update had the ability to end charging at a set time. Perfect went my raised expectations I ll be able to specify a set start and stop time to hit my 12.30am to 4.30am cheap rate electricity . But oh no... Tesla had to implement this in the most confusing way possible. You can either: * Specify a start time with no stop time * Specify a departure time with an additional time the car will try to stop charging The new UI also makes it really hard to toggle between the two options. What lunacy is this? All I need is for the car to start at 12.30am and end at 4.30am ending sooner if it has already hit the battery level I set. Currently having to do this with Tesla Remote automation. | They were too busy implementing fart sounds to really think this one through. Priorities. | It s called rushed software and lack of testing due to deadlines... probably a boss was screaming to get it out for Christmas? | 94 | 27 | 7,863 |
klte89 | 176 | A lot of wasted space in new update... Im kind of bummed that the map and radio is smaller as well as the speed etc and we have just a GIANT white space around the car. Anyway to change this that I am not seeing? | Elon also confirmed on Twitter that there will be a mechanism by which you can change the screen layout. Small map big map etc. | Its probably making space for the new enhanced visuals coming soon | 106 | 28 | 7,864 |
klun3w | 54 | Everything you always wanted to know about driving a Tesla in the winter* (*but were afraid to ask) The official Tesla Owners Club of Pennsylvania is holding one of our very popular Winter Boot Camp sessions on driving a Tesla in the winter tomorrow (Tuesday) night at 7 PM Eastern via Zoom...and it s free and open to everyone! We dive deep into topics like efficiency preconditioning leaving your car in the cold sensor and camera issues and general tips and tricks from experienced owners to new owners on how our cars are a little different and how to optimize your experience when the temperatures drop. You can sign up here: https: www.tocpa.club event-4087057 And again it s free to all. You need not live in Pennsylvania to attend. Hope to see some of you there! | North Dakota Model 3 (3LRAWD) owner here. Stock 18” all-seasons year round. Drives fine in blizzards and heavy snow and temps -20F and colder. My rules: 1. Precondition before you head out even if your car is garaged. 2. Double-tap defog to activate HI mode defrost. 3. If you re road tripping estimate your range to be 60% of normal. Make it 50% if it s windy or below -10F. Use seat heaters for warmth and limit cabin heat. 4. Do not tailgate. Leave plenty of room between you and car in front. 5. Go no higher than the speed limit on a snow icy road. Better yet go about 5mph slower. If its blizzarding go 10-15mph slower. 6. No launching on snowy icy roads. | Can we leave questions here to be discussed and possibly recorded for future viewing? | 34 | 3 | 7,865 |
klyffw | 137 | Type C cabin ports appear to be 27W I was pleasantly surprised that I could charge my 2020 macbook pro with the C ports in the cabin with 20v @1.35 amps. Really awesome that they support 20v rail considering most other cars usb ports are strictly 5v | Same 27-28w on M3 2021 for all 4 usb c ports | Oh rad! I ll be trying this later when I get back to the Y. | 50 | 2 | 7,866 |
klyffw | 137 | Type C cabin ports appear to be 27W I was pleasantly surprised that I could charge my 2020 macbook pro with the C ports in the cabin with 20v @1.35 amps. Really awesome that they support 20v rail considering most other cars usb ports are strictly 5v | Same 27-28w on M3 2021 for all 4 usb c ports | Model 3 or Y? | 50 | 10 | 7,867 |
kmexsv | 27 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | let us set scheduled departure through the app | I ll start * Sounds like alternative routes and waypoints might be coming to nav * Being able to control charging schedule and amps via app. * Ability to manually turn off heater to save power (the heater will run even during the summer time while ac is running this is not specific to my car) | 44 | 10 | 7,868 |
kmexsv | 27 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | Eagle eye 360 camera. Also view sentry mode footage through app. | -Ability to see regen dots on the mobile app. -Avoid highways when using Nav. Maybe give people the option of picking multiple routes. -Ability to turn on off wipers from the mobile app. | 36 | 2 | 7,869 |
kmexsv | 27 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | Eagle eye 360 camera. Also view sentry mode footage through app. | Automatically setting the display to dark mode when entering a tunnel (or when the headlights activate) | 36 | 2 | 7,870 |
kmjr7b | 52 | Why are Podcasts on Tesla s so hard to listen to? The TuneIn app is hot garbage. It doesn t save your place properly for a starter! If you hit the left scroll wheel right button what I want is for you to skip 15-30 seconds. Not to the next podcast!! And if you do make this mistake and then switch back Nope! Your place is not saved. Get out of the car? Can t keep listening to the same podcast. Get back in the car? It s a gamble if it will pick up where you left off. I ve had it just reset from the beginning. Spotify Podcast section isn t much better. It saves your place but doesn t allow a skip option from the steering wheel. So I wind up reaching over and hitting skip 15 seconds an unsafe amount of times. Yes I know I can use my phone and stream from there. However isn t the point of having a giant touchscreen to.. oh I don t know... use it for everything? I m trying to prevent the unsafe practice of picking up my phone. (Also music over BT sounds worse than streaming it IMHO) I just switched from an ICE car (Ford) That handled podcasts beautifully.. Tesla get it together | Because apparently Carplay is bad so we have to wait for Tesla to add half-baked apps for each and every audio service we might want to access in our cars. This is better because integration or whatever. | Yeah TuneIn for radio streaming isn t better either. Just trying to get a stream of CNN for example I constantly get errors and stops but if I stream through the app on my phone it is infinitely better. | 42 | 3 | 7,871 |
kmjr7b | 52 | Why are Podcasts on Tesla s so hard to listen to? The TuneIn app is hot garbage. It doesn t save your place properly for a starter! If you hit the left scroll wheel right button what I want is for you to skip 15-30 seconds. Not to the next podcast!! And if you do make this mistake and then switch back Nope! Your place is not saved. Get out of the car? Can t keep listening to the same podcast. Get back in the car? It s a gamble if it will pick up where you left off. I ve had it just reset from the beginning. Spotify Podcast section isn t much better. It saves your place but doesn t allow a skip option from the steering wheel. So I wind up reaching over and hitting skip 15 seconds an unsafe amount of times. Yes I know I can use my phone and stream from there. However isn t the point of having a giant touchscreen to.. oh I don t know... use it for everything? I m trying to prevent the unsafe practice of picking up my phone. (Also music over BT sounds worse than streaming it IMHO) I just switched from an ICE car (Ford) That handled podcasts beautifully.. Tesla get it together | Because apparently Carplay is bad so we have to wait for Tesla to add half-baked apps for each and every audio service we might want to access in our cars. This is better because integration or whatever. | Well Spotify has podcasts so with premium connectivity they don t have incentive to make other podcast options better. | 42 | 5 | 7,872 |
kmjr7b | 52 | Why are Podcasts on Tesla s so hard to listen to? The TuneIn app is hot garbage. It doesn t save your place properly for a starter! If you hit the left scroll wheel right button what I want is for you to skip 15-30 seconds. Not to the next podcast!! And if you do make this mistake and then switch back Nope! Your place is not saved. Get out of the car? Can t keep listening to the same podcast. Get back in the car? It s a gamble if it will pick up where you left off. I ve had it just reset from the beginning. Spotify Podcast section isn t much better. It saves your place but doesn t allow a skip option from the steering wheel. So I wind up reaching over and hitting skip 15 seconds an unsafe amount of times. Yes I know I can use my phone and stream from there. However isn t the point of having a giant touchscreen to.. oh I don t know... use it for everything? I m trying to prevent the unsafe practice of picking up my phone. (Also music over BT sounds worse than streaming it IMHO) I just switched from an ICE car (Ford) That handled podcasts beautifully.. Tesla get it together | Because apparently Carplay is bad so we have to wait for Tesla to add half-baked apps for each and every audio service we might want to access in our cars. This is better because integration or whatever. | Same with USB audiobooks. Stop listening to a file halfway through switch to something else and it forgets where you left off. You need to reselect the folder and file. My 2015 VW Golf remembered where I left off lol | 42 | 9 | 7,873 |
kmks73 | 137 | This last release feels premature. It s evident from reading posts of “reworked UI concepts” and new readability complaints that the new update hasn t been the best received. There s many nice new features and quality of life improvements but also a bunch of regression. Feels like the update was shipped under-baked to just be out by Christmas. I know people are eager for that little dopamine rush of a holiday update but I don t think it s worth the perceived compromise in quality. Not trying to dunk on anyone just speaking from my heart. | Premature is definitely the correct word. Nice to see something fresh but Premature would best describe it. | I agree they will probably iron it out in the next update | 58 | 27 | 7,874 |
kmks73 | 137 | This last release feels premature. It s evident from reading posts of “reworked UI concepts” and new readability complaints that the new update hasn t been the best received. There s many nice new features and quality of life improvements but also a bunch of regression. Feels like the update was shipped under-baked to just be out by Christmas. I know people are eager for that little dopamine rush of a holiday update but I don t think it s worth the perceived compromise in quality. Not trying to dunk on anyone just speaking from my heart. | duh. hard deadline of holiday release means it ships no matter what. | Thanks to all the feedback here I changed the software update preference back to standard so I don t mistakenly install until this is resolved. | 34 | 7 | 7,875 |
kmoq4x | 59 | SPOTIFY IS SO USABLE NOW I love the new update on my Tesla allowing me to actually use Spotify on the display rather than forcing me to use it on my phone and having to switch sources on the app. This was the best update so far for me! | Spotify has been like this for a while unless the latest update did something I don t know about? | What s been stopping you from using it in the car before? I ve been doing that... | 33 | 4 | 7,876 |
kn2eaa | 23 | Ordered M3 in Nov assured of a Dec delivery sold existing car privately now delayed to March Has this happened to anyone else? Working with a sales advisor in Kitchener and was assured my white Model 3 performance would be here end of Dec. Time goes by things progress on the website get a poor trade in offer so on the advice of the advisor I sell privately. He texts around Christmas and says the truck from Cali showed up but had no white model 3 performance on it? Offers a blue. I decline and he says it ll be next month then. Ok... I can make do for a few extra weeks. However today I get an automated text saying it won t even be built until March! What is going on? Is this common? I am excited for the car but this has undoubtedly been the worst car buying experience of my life (and I say that as a man who flips cars too often). | Never trust a car until you see it in person. Goes for any car. | Wow you really got yourself into a pickle. Rental cars until March? | 41 | 6 | 7,877 |
kn89ir | 119 | I keep mistaking the blue D for headlight high beam indicator https: imgur.com gallery bxINA21 Drive gear indicator turns blue when engaging autosteer and it got moved right next to the headlights on indicator. Having the selected gear indicator next to the lights panel is quite unfortunate imo. High beam icon used to be the only blue thing there other than the standard headlight icon. | This update is horrible in basically every conceivable way partaining to UX UI. Seems like they gave basically zero thought other than let s make cooler animations!!!11! | I prefer to drive with my headlights On rather than Auto. But when I try to do so in my 2021 M3 I keep getting nuisance messages when I exit the car. Will it turn the lights off (from On) after I park and lock the car? If so why the nuisance message? | 49 | 2 | 7,878 |
kn89ir | 119 | I keep mistaking the blue D for headlight high beam indicator https: imgur.com gallery bxINA21 Drive gear indicator turns blue when engaging autosteer and it got moved right next to the headlights on indicator. Having the selected gear indicator next to the lights panel is quite unfortunate imo. High beam icon used to be the only blue thing there other than the standard headlight icon. | This update is horrible in basically every conceivable way partaining to UX UI. Seems like they gave basically zero thought other than let s make cooler animations!!!11! | In most other cars I hardly ever look at the PRND indicator but in my Model S after entering the PIN-to-drive and hitting the shifter it does not go into gear right away. I found if you try again it will or better yet hold the shifter and wait for the R or D to light up. So imagine my surprise when they moved this over to the left. I d have never noticed if the car would just shift when I ask it to. I know first world problems. | 49 | 7 | 7,879 |
kn89ir | 119 | I keep mistaking the blue D for headlight high beam indicator https: imgur.com gallery bxINA21 Drive gear indicator turns blue when engaging autosteer and it got moved right next to the headlights on indicator. Having the selected gear indicator next to the lights panel is quite unfortunate imo. High beam icon used to be the only blue thing there other than the standard headlight icon. | Good to know I m not the only one. | I prefer to drive with my headlights On rather than Auto. But when I try to do so in my 2021 M3 I keep getting nuisance messages when I exit the car. Will it turn the lights off (from On) after I park and lock the car? If so why the nuisance message? | 39 | 2 | 7,880 |
knbabk | 112 | Airplay Chromecast instead of more and more built in games Airplay and chromecast would be a lot more effective to add to the media player instead of adding every possible game out there to the firmware. And which are only the games which are able to run on the hardware. With Airplay or chromecast I could remote play my Xbox series x at home on the Tesla screen via the Xbox app while supercharging (with a good 4G+ or WiFi connection). | Casting option is absolutely a good idea. As is just biting the bullet and doing CarPlay and Android Auto. | The fact that we don t have Android Auto and or CarPlay tells me casting won t happen. | 42 | 7 | 7,881 |
kntp8t | 250 | Musk - I m extremely confident that Tesla will have level five next year extremely confident 100% Musk Tweeted a link to his interview with Mathias Döpfner. When asked about FSD predictions Must responded with I m extremely confident that Tesla will have level five next year extremely confident 100% That sounds pretty confident... [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1344518758707113986?ref\\_src=twsrc%5Etfw](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1344518758707113986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) [https: www.businessinsider.com elon-musk-interview-axel-springer-tesla-accelerate-advent-of-sustainable-energy](https: www.businessinsider.com elon-musk-interview-axel-springer-tesla-accelerate-advent-of-sustainable-energy) | ~~2016~~ ~~2017~~ ~~2018~~ ~~2019~~ ~~2020~~ 2021 maybe 2022 definitely. I m what you might call skeptical of his claims around autonomous driving. Especially anything approaching level 5. | I think they ve started doing something... We ve seen pictures of Teslas with Lidar on the roof racks. I don t think they re using the Lidar as a testbed to see if they should include Lidar on consumer cars. Instead I think they re using the Lidar to train the camera AI faster. That s why he s so confident. If you can use Lidar as your AI trainer Yes that s a curb no that s not a dog etc then you can get a huge leap in the most time-consuming part of AI training and you end up with a system that is almost as accurate as lidar without lidar. | 226 | 8 | 7,882 |
kntp8t | 250 | Musk - I m extremely confident that Tesla will have level five next year extremely confident 100% Musk Tweeted a link to his interview with Mathias Döpfner. When asked about FSD predictions Must responded with I m extremely confident that Tesla will have level five next year extremely confident 100% That sounds pretty confident... [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1344518758707113986?ref\\_src=twsrc%5Etfw](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1344518758707113986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) [https: www.businessinsider.com elon-musk-interview-axel-springer-tesla-accelerate-advent-of-sustainable-energy](https: www.businessinsider.com elon-musk-interview-axel-springer-tesla-accelerate-advent-of-sustainable-energy) | ~~2016~~ ~~2017~~ ~~2018~~ ~~2019~~ ~~2020~~ 2021 maybe 2022 definitely. I m what you might call skeptical of his claims around autonomous driving. Especially anything approaching level 5. | He s been confident before. I really wish he d stop commenting on it at all or at least give reasonable forward-looking statements that address how monumentally difficult a task this is and that it may take some time. | 226 | 63 | 7,883 |
kntp8t | 250 | Musk - I m extremely confident that Tesla will have level five next year extremely confident 100% Musk Tweeted a link to his interview with Mathias Döpfner. When asked about FSD predictions Must responded with I m extremely confident that Tesla will have level five next year extremely confident 100% That sounds pretty confident... [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1344518758707113986?ref\\_src=twsrc%5Etfw](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1344518758707113986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) [https: www.businessinsider.com elon-musk-interview-axel-springer-tesla-accelerate-advent-of-sustainable-energy](https: www.businessinsider.com elon-musk-interview-axel-springer-tesla-accelerate-advent-of-sustainable-energy) | I don t understand how that s even remotely plausible. Level 4 maybe (meaning the car can detect when it s “blocked” and ask for help). I have a hard time imagining they get to corner cases like a cop controlling the traffic manually or pulling you over an ambulance instructing you to break a rule (like crossing a solid line for example or pull over on the sidewalk) so they can go through etc... I think what is plausible is technically level 3 though might be close to 4: the car is safe to sleep in in general (ie you wouldn t get in an accident) but you need to take over in corner case situations without the car requesting your help (so you still need to pay a bit attention to what s going on outside). | I think they ve started doing something... We ve seen pictures of Teslas with Lidar on the roof racks. I don t think they re using the Lidar as a testbed to see if they should include Lidar on consumer cars. Instead I think they re using the Lidar to train the camera AI faster. That s why he s so confident. If you can use Lidar as your AI trainer Yes that s a curb no that s not a dog etc then you can get a huge leap in the most time-consuming part of AI training and you end up with a system that is almost as accurate as lidar without lidar. | 82 | 8 | 7,884 |
knuumq | 180 | Final update of 2020 900k subs! Thank you all and to all that own Tesla s welcome to the family. At the start of this month we tried a little [something](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments k4ddt9 psa_were_temporarily_relaxing_our_standards_for ). We temporarily relaxed on Rule 1. That is going away tomorrow. Then we heard all the feedback you can read about it [here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments khrix2 feedback_xmas_update ). Going back to Rule 1. This means no more pictures of just Tesla s (ie you just bought the car and want to show us). If you want to post about your car you better have a write up just like [this](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg878f wrapped_my_model_3_matte_black_myself ). No more questions about range (miles change it to %) or miles or battery degrade. If you post about those it will be removed and a comment will be made that [says this](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki range). Not sure if you know this but [Winter is here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments k134w3 winter_is_here ) please read this if you are a new owner. No more should I buy this or this these posts will be removed. Spamming the sub with update 123456789 it will be removed look for the first one posted. Tesla tequila will also be removed from the sub it s worse than the Tesla car pictures. With all that said. Remember we are a Tesla sub about a company. Yes we do have personal posts that can be posted but that is what the r TeslaLounge is for. If you can not find your problem on https: www.tesla.com support then go and post it here maybe we can help but the chance of it is low. Everytime I have seen a post about something broken. I look at the comments and the most upvoted comment is use your app to put in a service request. Oh RTFM. [I have updated the rules so they can easily be read since I have listened to the feedback. It now says it with a quick glance.](https: imgur.com a 6eREe6x) [Driving safe](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg78us driving_safe ). That is IF FSD comes out. We will change and evolve to the laws and what is safe. We listen and welcome the feedback. Thank you to all that have said thanks to the mod team. We are a small mod team for a large sub. We talk on the daily and are always thinking of ways to better the sub. If you have anything you want to say please say it. From the mod team to you all Happy New Year! | I wish r TeslaModel3 followed these rules. Was hoping for a nice site to discuss the 3 in particular but 90% of the posts are JOINED THE CLUB! with pics of just the car. | please tell elon to release fsd faster | 100 | 18 | 7,885 |
knuumq | 180 | Final update of 2020 900k subs! Thank you all and to all that own Tesla s welcome to the family. At the start of this month we tried a little [something](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments k4ddt9 psa_were_temporarily_relaxing_our_standards_for ). We temporarily relaxed on Rule 1. That is going away tomorrow. Then we heard all the feedback you can read about it [here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments khrix2 feedback_xmas_update ). Going back to Rule 1. This means no more pictures of just Tesla s (ie you just bought the car and want to show us). If you want to post about your car you better have a write up just like [this](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg878f wrapped_my_model_3_matte_black_myself ). No more questions about range (miles change it to %) or miles or battery degrade. If you post about those it will be removed and a comment will be made that [says this](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki range). Not sure if you know this but [Winter is here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments k134w3 winter_is_here ) please read this if you are a new owner. No more should I buy this or this these posts will be removed. Spamming the sub with update 123456789 it will be removed look for the first one posted. Tesla tequila will also be removed from the sub it s worse than the Tesla car pictures. With all that said. Remember we are a Tesla sub about a company. Yes we do have personal posts that can be posted but that is what the r TeslaLounge is for. If you can not find your problem on https: www.tesla.com support then go and post it here maybe we can help but the chance of it is low. Everytime I have seen a post about something broken. I look at the comments and the most upvoted comment is use your app to put in a service request. Oh RTFM. [I have updated the rules so they can easily be read since I have listened to the feedback. It now says it with a quick glance.](https: imgur.com a 6eREe6x) [Driving safe](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kg78us driving_safe ). That is IF FSD comes out. We will change and evolve to the laws and what is safe. We listen and welcome the feedback. Thank you to all that have said thanks to the mod team. We are a small mod team for a large sub. We talk on the daily and are always thinking of ways to better the sub. If you have anything you want to say please say it. From the mod team to you all Happy New Year! | I wish r TeslaModel3 followed these rules. Was hoping for a nice site to discuss the 3 in particular but 90% of the posts are JOINED THE CLUB! with pics of just the car. | Thank you for all the updates and for a great sub! 🙏 And Happy New year!! 🎊 | 100 | 33 | 7,886 |
korycp | 42 | 1 big Problem and 6 small ones with my made in china SR+ M3 When I pushed the button and bought a Model 3 in October I didn t know I bought a made in china model 3... Then Tesla sent the documents and it became clear why I payed almost 7 000 usd less than my friend. Btw I live in Europe. Still I trusted Tesla s advisors that told me the car is even better than the Fremont one and cheaper and you can charge to 100% semper etc etc. The car has problems and a really big one: The lfp battery is not convincing me. My charging speed and supercharger is... bad (40-50Kw with 10% battery left preheated 5°C no other cars charging V2). It takes forever to charge... The other problems are less relevant and some only concerning my country \\- Tesla account for spotify not working: Solutions I found: make yourself a premium account or try hard reset. I went for the premium account as I really like spotify \\- Headlights: where I live your daytime running light need to be turned on all the time. On auto they automatically turn off when I drive in sunny situationts \\- TPMS: it took time but now I know which one I have (the old ones). Still if you need be sure to check which one you have before buying some (i.e. check the manual) \\- Updates: sometimes they are just great.... sometimes not. I started losing 10% overnight after the last update (**2020.48.26) ** the one that farts even more. Then I found out it was due to activated scheduled departure. Solution: just inform yourself before updating and always charge your car before an update. \\- the MIC is heavier. I don t know if I m the only one but driving a lot on mountains I feel like driving a heavy car. So glad brakes are working well... \\- Autopilot speed limit recognition: where I live it works bad recognizing only about 80% of limit signs. I hope this will improve with updates as speed tickets are expensive where I live... & #x200B So I helped my wife to make a video about our [Problems](https: youtu.be b8nBF8wQmL4). What do you think? I really appreciate the car I smile everytime I have to drive somewhere... and cry when I have to supercharge. Guess the only thing I can do for the charging speed time at superchargers is wait in the best scenario just for an update... | I m not sure these are MIC specific issues other than possibly the Supercharging issue. This is something they will likely resolve with updates in the future once they get a feel for how this new-to-Tesla change works. Similar things happened with the US made version where initially it couldn t charge beyond 150kW and eventually they pushed an update to go up to 250kW. The rest seem like software settings issues and would likely have been the same if you had a Fremont vehicle. Unless you re comparing it to another Tesla that you ve had the weight thing is just an EV thing. Due to the batteries they *are* heavy cars. | Sorry you are already getting downvoted even though you presented legitimate concerns. | 44 | 4 | 7,887 |
korycp | 42 | 1 big Problem and 6 small ones with my made in china SR+ M3 When I pushed the button and bought a Model 3 in October I didn t know I bought a made in china model 3... Then Tesla sent the documents and it became clear why I payed almost 7 000 usd less than my friend. Btw I live in Europe. Still I trusted Tesla s advisors that told me the car is even better than the Fremont one and cheaper and you can charge to 100% semper etc etc. The car has problems and a really big one: The lfp battery is not convincing me. My charging speed and supercharger is... bad (40-50Kw with 10% battery left preheated 5°C no other cars charging V2). It takes forever to charge... The other problems are less relevant and some only concerning my country \\- Tesla account for spotify not working: Solutions I found: make yourself a premium account or try hard reset. I went for the premium account as I really like spotify \\- Headlights: where I live your daytime running light need to be turned on all the time. On auto they automatically turn off when I drive in sunny situationts \\- TPMS: it took time but now I know which one I have (the old ones). Still if you need be sure to check which one you have before buying some (i.e. check the manual) \\- Updates: sometimes they are just great.... sometimes not. I started losing 10% overnight after the last update (**2020.48.26) ** the one that farts even more. Then I found out it was due to activated scheduled departure. Solution: just inform yourself before updating and always charge your car before an update. \\- the MIC is heavier. I don t know if I m the only one but driving a lot on mountains I feel like driving a heavy car. So glad brakes are working well... \\- Autopilot speed limit recognition: where I live it works bad recognizing only about 80% of limit signs. I hope this will improve with updates as speed tickets are expensive where I live... & #x200B So I helped my wife to make a video about our [Problems](https: youtu.be b8nBF8wQmL4). What do you think? I really appreciate the car I smile everytime I have to drive somewhere... and cry when I have to supercharge. Guess the only thing I can do for the charging speed time at superchargers is wait in the best scenario just for an update... | I m not sure these are MIC specific issues other than possibly the Supercharging issue. This is something they will likely resolve with updates in the future once they get a feel for how this new-to-Tesla change works. Similar things happened with the US made version where initially it couldn t charge beyond 150kW and eventually they pushed an update to go up to 250kW. The rest seem like software settings issues and would likely have been the same if you had a Fremont vehicle. Unless you re comparing it to another Tesla that you ve had the weight thing is just an EV thing. Due to the batteries they *are* heavy cars. | Congratulations on your purchase. In time you will grow to love your Tesla. | 44 | 7 | 7,888 |
kp0dvx | 111 | Insane efficiency in the model 3 Long story short my dad is doing this safe driving thing for the insurance where they monitor how he drives for 3 months and they discount some percentage. I told him he d hate it and that it probably wouldn t work but he said to give it a try anyway. With that being said when I m in the car with him he honestly hasn t changed his driving habits much and the only thing that the driving app is docking him for is acceleration big surprise. Well this gave me the idea: why not see how efficient this car can get? Especially if he s being incentives to drive safer . From **October 15 to December 31** my dad 2020 SR+ achieves a **182 wh mi** average. That s insane! My first thoughts were wait its winter shouldn t it be a lot higher? Well turns out winter time in Vegas is apparently better than summer? This is probably due to winter here being 65-30 degrees and energy needed to cool the battery and cabin in the super hot summer as someone else had mentioned before. I checked the lifetime average and it s at **210 wh mi**. Which is still pretty low compared to most people I ve seen on this sub. What I wanted to know next was what would I get if I drove safely vs. normally? So I asked to borrow the car and drove around town getting about **247 wh mi** over 26.7 miles. Seems about right. Then another day I drove very conservatively and got **156 wh mi** at 22.4 miles. Talk about efficiency! I ve seen online that the battery size is 54 kWh correct? So if I drove like my grandpa I would get around 346 miles around town lol Anyway I know people hate when people post about not getting 300-400 wh mi on this sub because *gotta drive fast* or whatever. Just thought I d share the other side of these amazing cars. | Me from Minneapolis: Enjoy your winter. | It s all true. I have an M3 I m LV | 76 | 2 | 7,889 |
kp0dvx | 111 | Insane efficiency in the model 3 Long story short my dad is doing this safe driving thing for the insurance where they monitor how he drives for 3 months and they discount some percentage. I told him he d hate it and that it probably wouldn t work but he said to give it a try anyway. With that being said when I m in the car with him he honestly hasn t changed his driving habits much and the only thing that the driving app is docking him for is acceleration big surprise. Well this gave me the idea: why not see how efficient this car can get? Especially if he s being incentives to drive safer . From **October 15 to December 31** my dad 2020 SR+ achieves a **182 wh mi** average. That s insane! My first thoughts were wait its winter shouldn t it be a lot higher? Well turns out winter time in Vegas is apparently better than summer? This is probably due to winter here being 65-30 degrees and energy needed to cool the battery and cabin in the super hot summer as someone else had mentioned before. I checked the lifetime average and it s at **210 wh mi**. Which is still pretty low compared to most people I ve seen on this sub. What I wanted to know next was what would I get if I drove safely vs. normally? So I asked to borrow the car and drove around town getting about **247 wh mi** over 26.7 miles. Seems about right. Then another day I drove very conservatively and got **156 wh mi** at 22.4 miles. Talk about efficiency! I ve seen online that the battery size is 54 kWh correct? So if I drove like my grandpa I would get around 346 miles around town lol Anyway I know people hate when people post about not getting 300-400 wh mi on this sub because *gotta drive fast* or whatever. Just thought I d share the other side of these amazing cars. | Me from Minneapolis: Enjoy your winter. | How many total miles on the car? If he s driving surface streets vs I-15 215 then yeah I can see it. My ‘19 SR+ is probably getting slightly worse Wh mi here in Vegas as well. My drive from the NW to the airport area via 215 (the highway) is about 30miles and I get around 220-ish I think. I ll look on Monday. I think it is the East weather right now as in the Summer it s higher but I blast the A C | 76 | 2 | 7,890 |
kp0dvx | 111 | Insane efficiency in the model 3 Long story short my dad is doing this safe driving thing for the insurance where they monitor how he drives for 3 months and they discount some percentage. I told him he d hate it and that it probably wouldn t work but he said to give it a try anyway. With that being said when I m in the car with him he honestly hasn t changed his driving habits much and the only thing that the driving app is docking him for is acceleration big surprise. Well this gave me the idea: why not see how efficient this car can get? Especially if he s being incentives to drive safer . From **October 15 to December 31** my dad 2020 SR+ achieves a **182 wh mi** average. That s insane! My first thoughts were wait its winter shouldn t it be a lot higher? Well turns out winter time in Vegas is apparently better than summer? This is probably due to winter here being 65-30 degrees and energy needed to cool the battery and cabin in the super hot summer as someone else had mentioned before. I checked the lifetime average and it s at **210 wh mi**. Which is still pretty low compared to most people I ve seen on this sub. What I wanted to know next was what would I get if I drove safely vs. normally? So I asked to borrow the car and drove around town getting about **247 wh mi** over 26.7 miles. Seems about right. Then another day I drove very conservatively and got **156 wh mi** at 22.4 miles. Talk about efficiency! I ve seen online that the battery size is 54 kWh correct? So if I drove like my grandpa I would get around 346 miles around town lol Anyway I know people hate when people post about not getting 300-400 wh mi on this sub because *gotta drive fast* or whatever. Just thought I d share the other side of these amazing cars. | Me from Minneapolis: Enjoy your winter. | Is it the app for travellers? | 76 | 2 | 7,891 |
kp8bxx | 199 | Can the blind spot collision alert be changed? Right now on the model 3 having this feature turned on is basically useless. It doesn t chime unless you re going into the other lane. In reality it should act like other modern cars where the instant put the turn signal on and there s a car there it should chime. Is there anyway to request this very basic feature? Is tweeting Elon really the only way? I m kinda upset because this is common sense it should be like this. | Considering the car is ~$40k+ I have no idea why they don t have this but thankfully we can make fart noises. | It won t matter because soon your Tesla will drive itself s | 58 | 2 | 7,892 |
kp8bxx | 199 | Can the blind spot collision alert be changed? Right now on the model 3 having this feature turned on is basically useless. It doesn t chime unless you re going into the other lane. In reality it should act like other modern cars where the instant put the turn signal on and there s a car there it should chime. Is there anyway to request this very basic feature? Is tweeting Elon really the only way? I m kinda upset because this is common sense it should be like this. | Considering the car is ~$40k+ I have no idea why they don t have this but thankfully we can make fart noises. | What they would like you to do is pay $10000 for (or subscribe to) FSD and have the car do your lane changes for you. | 58 | 6 | 7,893 |
kp8bxx | 199 | Can the blind spot collision alert be changed? Right now on the model 3 having this feature turned on is basically useless. It doesn t chime unless you re going into the other lane. In reality it should act like other modern cars where the instant put the turn signal on and there s a car there it should chime. Is there anyway to request this very basic feature? Is tweeting Elon really the only way? I m kinda upset because this is common sense it should be like this. | Considering the car is ~$40k+ I have no idea why they don t have this but thankfully we can make fart noises. | Agree with you 100% | 58 | 10 | 7,894 |
kper0c | 62 | Elon Musk s quote on range for the Plaid Model S... Do people remember that he said the Plaid Model S would have a crazy amount of power optimized for the track but that the range may be **constant**? So if you put that together what if the Model S (base) has 520+ miles or more also here in the next few months? There was one user (BigTeslaGuy) who posted that the Plaid Model S numbers were similar to what he heard internally for the regular Model S and that he was confused by the video on Plaid Model S at Battery Day. He was thinking maybe the timeline had been sandbagged internal product development teams were purposely fractured or perhaps the tweet below gives us a hint about the base Model S that we may see here sooner than later. Based on his leaks (he was correct about the Model 3 refreshed items) the Model S is indeed getting interior exterior updates (similar to the other leaked images) and that the base Model S should be getting similar stats to the Plaid albeit with slower track 0-60 times. Tweet: [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1228545167851839488](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1228545167851839488) & #x200B Given that he said this right before the country shutdown and well before Plaid S was revealed - figured it was worth resurfacing. IDK - seems like we are going to have a near 500 mile base Model S. With the Lucid coming in at 407 miles end of 2021 I assume Tesla will be well beyond the range and at a better price with higher levels of charging available. I m going to doubt the mid-range Lucid Air is going to be technically competitive in less than a year. | Total speculation but I think there has been a lot of internal debate happening at Tesla for the past several months and maybe even years. On the one hand they want to get cars into customers hands and they must have designed the Plaid powertrain and Semi with the battery tech roadmap from 2017 which was probably 2170 or maybe some other battery type. As time progressed though and they made aqusitions like Maxwell they must have had more confidence something like the 4680 could be developed sooner. The same thing goes with megacastings and the idea of the structural battery pack. This I think has put Tesla in kind of a bind. I think they want to release the Semi Roadster and Plaid S with 4680 cells which is why we have seen the delays. I think they technically could have released something sooner but they would have then been on the older tech and also would just have been eating into the 2170 supply which is already spoken for with current products. The range kind of follows. I think we have only seen conservative range estimates with the “old” “current” tech and the range will only improve if they wait for the 4680. | A performance version has motors that are not as good for long range. It s not just how you drive it the motors are different. So it seems that even with all the performance in the Plaid version the range has not suffered as much as you think it would be. | 39 | 2 | 7,895 |
kpr3m6 | 164 | Select Wiper speeds in 3 Y with double click on stalk button I live where it rains... a lot. The auto wipers for me have been middling at best (especially at night) which means I m constantly interfacing with the screen to adjust. I read about the guy in Germany who ran into court troubles for adjusting through the screen and was thinking about what could be done to alleviate those concerns and also make my life easier in this rainy part of the world. I figured it would be a great idea to be able to roll through the wiper settings with a double-press of the wipe button on the end of the stalk. Single press still does a single wipe as now and the screen settings stay the same however when you double-press the button it would go from the current setting (say off) to 1. Double-press again and it goes to 2 etc. until you roll through them all back to off. This would allow us to adjust the wipers without having to look at the screen and would (in theory) only be a bit of software to implement. This also would help with the other problem I m having now: I have been stuck in manual mode as of late because my windshield has a crack in front of the camera cluster...and that makes the car think there s water there and wipe constantly if in auto. Scheduled to be replaced but often conditions lend themselves to falling back to manual control and this makes that manual control just a bit easier convenient with minimal cost to implement. Thoughts? | I liked the idea that after a button press on the stalk while the wiper selection was up on the screen the left thumbwheel would cycle through the wiper settings. | We ve been asking for this for years now. Hope he changes his mind like multiple waypoints. | 49 | 14 | 7,896 |
kpr3m6 | 164 | Select Wiper speeds in 3 Y with double click on stalk button I live where it rains... a lot. The auto wipers for me have been middling at best (especially at night) which means I m constantly interfacing with the screen to adjust. I read about the guy in Germany who ran into court troubles for adjusting through the screen and was thinking about what could be done to alleviate those concerns and also make my life easier in this rainy part of the world. I figured it would be a great idea to be able to roll through the wiper settings with a double-press of the wipe button on the end of the stalk. Single press still does a single wipe as now and the screen settings stay the same however when you double-press the button it would go from the current setting (say off) to 1. Double-press again and it goes to 2 etc. until you roll through them all back to off. This would allow us to adjust the wipers without having to look at the screen and would (in theory) only be a bit of software to implement. This also would help with the other problem I m having now: I have been stuck in manual mode as of late because my windshield has a crack in front of the camera cluster...and that makes the car think there s water there and wipe constantly if in auto. Scheduled to be replaced but often conditions lend themselves to falling back to manual control and this makes that manual control just a bit easier convenient with minimal cost to implement. Thoughts? | I liked the idea that after a button press on the stalk while the wiper selection was up on the screen the left thumbwheel would cycle through the wiper settings. | I actually tweeted this to Elon this week after watching Linus his video on the Model Y where he started complaining about this. It makes a lot of sense and it only requires an update | 49 | 23 | 7,897 |
kpro9c | 63 | Is this grill new and what s it for? 2021 Model 3 [https: imgur.com a b3V3lIb](https: imgur.com a b3V3lIb) When watching a video about the new Model 3 I noticed a new feature behind the center screen. Where previously was just plain aluminium now is a big grill. My guess that it is used for ventilation or a new place for a speaker? Another possibility could be that the grill allows more air to reach the temperature sensor for more accuracy. Let me know what you think! | On the earlier models this is where the temperature sensor for the cabin climate was located. On my 2018 3 it s a smooth dot later Tesla changed it to a small grate on the later models. My 2021 Y has this newer large grate and I m assuming Tesla just changed how they are sensing the cabin temperature again. | AFAIK the entire screen computer combo is liquid cooled so this wouldn t add anything to the cooling. This would also not work as a cooling device hot air still goes UP. Ergo: don t know what it is for. | 53 | 2 | 7,898 |
kpro9c | 63 | Is this grill new and what s it for? 2021 Model 3 [https: imgur.com a b3V3lIb](https: imgur.com a b3V3lIb) When watching a video about the new Model 3 I noticed a new feature behind the center screen. Where previously was just plain aluminium now is a big grill. My guess that it is used for ventilation or a new place for a speaker? Another possibility could be that the grill allows more air to reach the temperature sensor for more accuracy. Let me know what you think! | On the earlier models this is where the temperature sensor for the cabin climate was located. On my 2018 3 it s a smooth dot later Tesla changed it to a small grate on the later models. My 2021 Y has this newer large grate and I m assuming Tesla just changed how they are sensing the cabin temperature again. | Tesla is so fascinating what a new mystery! Could also be nothing new but just replacing a more expensive part with a cheaper one without changing optimizing anything (except cost). | 53 | 16 | 7,899 |
kpy23v | 1,334 | Why Tesla Won t Be Able To Scale (Harvard Business Review 2015) Because everyone knows you can t start with expensive products and move down the totem pole especially in the auto market. That s just not how the world works. Take it from Haahvid. They re wicked smaaaht and stuff. [https: hbr.org 2015 04 why-tesla-wont-be-able-to-scale](https: hbr.org 2015 04 why-tesla-wont-be-able-to-scale) | So far it hasn t been a great strategy to tell Elon what he can t do. | Analysts were wrong about tesla all 2019 and 2020 | 697 | 23 | 7,900 |
kpy23v | 1,334 | Why Tesla Won t Be Able To Scale (Harvard Business Review 2015) Because everyone knows you can t start with expensive products and move down the totem pole especially in the auto market. That s just not how the world works. Take it from Haahvid. They re wicked smaaaht and stuff. [https: hbr.org 2015 04 why-tesla-wont-be-able-to-scale](https: hbr.org 2015 04 why-tesla-wont-be-able-to-scale) | So far it hasn t been a great strategy to tell Elon what he can t do. | Interesting historical article. It uses Apple as another premium company that failed to go from premium to low-cost with the iPhone 5c. Apple also eventually figured out how to sell low-cost devices by selling last year s model. They now are very successful at selling $399 phones. So the theory that companies cannot go from high-margin to lower-margin products fails the sniff test in both of his examples for different reasons. He also brings up the often-stated fallacy that mainstream manufacturers could create an EV easily anytime they want that will be just as good as Tesla but they just don t do it because it isn t profitable yet. We now know that isn t true (see: VW struggles) Outside of the title he really argues that Tesla could scale but it would result in delays higher prices and cost overruns. He was right that there have been some delays and slightly higher prices but it wasn t enough to stop the growth. Makes for an excellent case study | 697 | 129 | 7,901 |
kpy23v | 1,334 | Why Tesla Won t Be Able To Scale (Harvard Business Review 2015) Because everyone knows you can t start with expensive products and move down the totem pole especially in the auto market. That s just not how the world works. Take it from Haahvid. They re wicked smaaaht and stuff. [https: hbr.org 2015 04 why-tesla-wont-be-able-to-scale](https: hbr.org 2015 04 why-tesla-wont-be-able-to-scale) | So far it hasn t been a great strategy to tell Elon what he can t do. | MBAs gonna MBA | 697 | 188 | 7,902 |
kq2kwz | 190 | Tesla Giga New York Job Offer to [play] a critical role in building the world s largest factory I found this job offer for a [Construction Superintendent](https: www.tesla.com en_CA careers job construction-superintendent-gigafactorynewyork-74899) at Giga New York in Buffalo NY. There is another one for a Construction Project Manager. But the wording for the Construction Superintendent job may be a hint at Tesla s future Northeast US expansion: > *As a Construction Superintendent you will be playing a critical role in building* ***the world s largest factory****.* They might be looking at expanding Giga New York to build vehicles for the East Coast. Elon mentioned at several occasions that ultimately there would be a Gigafactory in the Northeast. See an article from [Tesmanian](https: www.tesmanian.com blogs tesmanian-blog tesla-will-build-new-gigafactory-after-giga-texas-in-northeast-of-the-us) about it dated Aug 2020: > *“At some point there ll be a* ***third Gigafactory**** probably.“* > > * I d imagine you know closer up North * ***Northeast most likely****. * > > *“This is literally a spur of the moment rough guess probably we d* ***start construction in four years-ish**** ” Musk said. “That s just like my sort of stream-of-consciousness guess.”* Shortly after they had their $5B ATM capital raise announced on Aug 28 . 2020 and another one for $5B again ATM announced on Dec 8 2020. The two job offers were posted on Oct 26 2020. Maybe just maybe the 4-year timeframe mentionned by Elon during the Aug podcast got accelerated by the capital raises. Construction could potentially start by end of 2021 instead of 2024 as originally planned. During the [Q3 2020 earnings call](https: www.fool.com earnings call-transcripts 2020 10 22 tesla-tsla-q3-2020-earnings-call-transcript ) Zach Kirkhorn (CFO) indicated the following: > *Looking forward to 2021 and 2022 we have revised up our expectations for capital spending by $2 billion to $2.5 billion which we have ample liquidity and expected cash flows to fund. This is driven by an* ***increase in in-source scope for certain factories**** including battery cell manufacturing as well as investments to enable* ***greater capacity expansion*** *in the future.* Elon commented on the Solar Roof as well: > Q: What are the remaining constraints to be solved for Solar Roof installations to ramp significantly? > > EM: \\[...\\] Solar Roof is a killer product. This will become obvious **next year**. We could read it as Tesla expanding operations in Buffalo as early as 2021 but not necessarily for vehicles right away but rather Solar Roof Superchargers etc. Regarding the statement the World s largest factory some points of reference: * Gigafactory 2 in Buffalo NY: current factory footprint of \\~0.1 sq km (with 0 4 or so sq km of land south of it) * Gigafactory 5 Texas in Austin TC: [revealed plans](https: twitter.com SavedTesla status 1306121963103023104) show \\~0.35 sq km (a small portion of the total land acquired although a good chunk of it might be in a flood plain) * Gigafactory 1 Nevada in Sparks NV: current factory footprint of \\~0.18 sq km (about a third of the original planned factory) * Gigafactory 3 Shanghai: Phase 1 s footprint is approx. 0.12 sq km. Same footprint for Phase 2 * Gigafactory 4 Berlin: approx. 0.15 sq km for the [first phase](https: electrek.co wp-content uploads sites 3 2020 07 Screen-Shot-2020-07-02-at-10.54.06-AM.jpg) * Tesla Fremont: approx. 0.5 sq km footprint with additional expansions approved a few years ago around the main building (tents for 3 and Y etc. * Tesla Kato Road Roadrunner Pilot Plant: 0.01 sq km footprint for the Kato Rd building and 0.006 sq km for the Page Ave building next to it * Volkswagen-Wolfsburg in Wolfsburg Lower Saxony Germany: 1.6 sq km [according to VW](https: www.volkswagen-newsroom.com en press-releases volkswagen-plant-in-wolfsburg-2103) (succession of several buildings) * Boeing Everett Factory : 0.4 sq km footprint (largest building in the world by volume though) Thoughts? | Super speculative post but i really like all the references you put in there and the idea of a 3rd car factory in the US is certainly not too wild for Tesla. However I think its most likely an expansion of solar roof solar retrofits superchargers and or other stuff manufacturing (Tesla makes a lot of its car components in house and with a rapid increase in car output it would need to scale these things as well). It could become a battery manufacturing plant too. | Nice! Good find | 77 | 8 | 7,903 |
kq9z6w | 2,692 | Not being able to adjust regen braking on Model 3 is straight up dangerous in snow I live in a cold and snowy climate and often drive up to our cabin in the mountains in winter. They plough the roads here but do not salt and it is a legal requirement to have winter tires. Often at higher altitudes and on gravel roads there is still some standing snow on the road. When driving last weekend the car would fishtail often whenever the regen braking kicked in which is almost impossible to avoid. I don t know why they removed the option to adjust it but at the very least it would be great to have a Snow function where things like regen are dialed back for safety and chill mode is turned on. As it is right now it performs worse than our front wheel drive ICE car with winter tires and is seriously pretty sketchy to drive at times. Edit: I have the 2021 Model 3 Long Range Edit 2: This kinda blew up. 1. If it wasn t clear in my post I have winter tires which were ordered through Tesla. 2. The counterargument here seems to be that Tesla drivers should feather the throttle . That works fine in mild winter conditions in my experience under ideal driving conditions. Where it doesn t work well is driving on roads with standing snow. If you are driving on an empty road where you can slow down well in advance you can manage to deal with it. But if for example a pedestrian or other obstacle is on the other side of a blind corner this is extremely dangerous. 3. This seems to be yet another example where 50% of Redditors put 100% of the burden on the driver and the other 50% are trying to hold Tesla accountable for basic safety features. This dynamic drives me kinda nuts to be honest. What s the harm in pointing out obvious issues for a car that promises to be constantly improving through software updates? Edit 3: you heard it here first folks I m coining a new term “Telsasplaining”: the art of blaming all QC issues safety faults and other obvious Tesla flaws on the driver rather than the company who makes the cars. | As Teslabjorn has said a few times they need a snow mode. | Are you saying that ABS doesn t apply to regen braking? That would indeed be very bad but the right solution isn t to reduce or disable regen the solution is to apply proper traction control to it. | 1,214 | 2 | 7,904 |
kq9z6w | 2,692 | Not being able to adjust regen braking on Model 3 is straight up dangerous in snow I live in a cold and snowy climate and often drive up to our cabin in the mountains in winter. They plough the roads here but do not salt and it is a legal requirement to have winter tires. Often at higher altitudes and on gravel roads there is still some standing snow on the road. When driving last weekend the car would fishtail often whenever the regen braking kicked in which is almost impossible to avoid. I don t know why they removed the option to adjust it but at the very least it would be great to have a Snow function where things like regen are dialed back for safety and chill mode is turned on. As it is right now it performs worse than our front wheel drive ICE car with winter tires and is seriously pretty sketchy to drive at times. Edit: I have the 2021 Model 3 Long Range Edit 2: This kinda blew up. 1. If it wasn t clear in my post I have winter tires which were ordered through Tesla. 2. The counterargument here seems to be that Tesla drivers should feather the throttle . That works fine in mild winter conditions in my experience under ideal driving conditions. Where it doesn t work well is driving on roads with standing snow. If you are driving on an empty road where you can slow down well in advance you can manage to deal with it. But if for example a pedestrian or other obstacle is on the other side of a blind corner this is extremely dangerous. 3. This seems to be yet another example where 50% of Redditors put 100% of the burden on the driver and the other 50% are trying to hold Tesla accountable for basic safety features. This dynamic drives me kinda nuts to be honest. What s the harm in pointing out obvious issues for a car that promises to be constantly improving through software updates? Edit 3: you heard it here first folks I m coining a new term “Telsasplaining”: the art of blaming all QC issues safety faults and other obvious Tesla flaws on the driver rather than the company who makes the cars. | As Teslabjorn has said a few times they need a snow mode. | We re you in chill mode? Regen is much smoother in chill mode. If you haven t tried it try it while Tesla sorts this out. | 1,214 | 9 | 7,905 |
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