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l837jv | 40 | Did Tesla silently deprecate the Owner s API? UPDATE: This is solved. Tesla deprecated their old authentication API in favor of their OAuth2 implementation. This has been documented by u timdorr [here](https: tesla-api.timdorr.com api-basics authentication). You can see a reference example in Ruby in his API or my repo [here](https: github.com carlosonunez tesla-oauth2-token-bot) for a quick no-frills implementation. ORIGINAL POST: I m getting this error now when I try to get a new token from my iOS Shortcut: ``` { response : endpoint_deprecated:_please_update_your_app } ``` I was able to get a token this morning no problem. I also can t find anything on Google about this specific error. Did something change? | Just a note: there was never a public API. There were internal API endpoints scrapped out of the android app that were widely shared. Tesla never had any obligation to keep those operating or inform you when they were changing. | Really wish they would switch to OAuth. I m not using TeslaFi or similar until they do. | 47 | 7 | 8,006 |
l89lk3 | 175 | Automatic Wiper troubles: Can we please get double-click wiper button to activate? It s really scary when rain comes suddenly at night on a hwy and automatic wipers don t kick in fast enough. I ve been trying to get my voice heard for 2.5 years now since I first got the car. Everything has improved incredibly except this daily frustration. I m not sure if this is because their staff lives in dry climates or what but this is driving me crazy. I m ashamed to give test drives to people on rainy days because of the consistent What? really?? I have to tap buttons on the screen multiple times? reaction people give. This is especially aggravated when the wiper buttons are covered by the seat belt alert which show up intermittently when there s a bag on the back seat. Now it adds an annoyingly slow swipe before taps. I hope you agree that a double-click is the right solution so we can get the voice heard | * Push the button and wiper controls appear (like they do now) * Scroll the left wheel while controls are displayed to scroll through speed modes. * Optional audible beep | About the bag on the back you tap the seat on the visualisation to mark os as a kid s chair. It won t alert you anymore. | 84 | 10 | 8,007 |
l89lk3 | 175 | Automatic Wiper troubles: Can we please get double-click wiper button to activate? It s really scary when rain comes suddenly at night on a hwy and automatic wipers don t kick in fast enough. I ve been trying to get my voice heard for 2.5 years now since I first got the car. Everything has improved incredibly except this daily frustration. I m not sure if this is because their staff lives in dry climates or what but this is driving me crazy. I m ashamed to give test drives to people on rainy days because of the consistent What? really?? I have to tap buttons on the screen multiple times? reaction people give. This is especially aggravated when the wiper buttons are covered by the seat belt alert which show up intermittently when there s a bag on the back seat. Now it adds an annoyingly slow swipe before taps. I hope you agree that a double-click is the right solution so we can get the voice heard | * Push the button and wiper controls appear (like they do now) * Scroll the left wheel while controls are displayed to scroll through speed modes. * Optional audible beep | I can press in the end button on the left stalk of my model Y and the wipers come on... | 84 | 21 | 8,008 |
l89lk3 | 175 | Automatic Wiper troubles: Can we please get double-click wiper button to activate? It s really scary when rain comes suddenly at night on a hwy and automatic wipers don t kick in fast enough. I ve been trying to get my voice heard for 2.5 years now since I first got the car. Everything has improved incredibly except this daily frustration. I m not sure if this is because their staff lives in dry climates or what but this is driving me crazy. I m ashamed to give test drives to people on rainy days because of the consistent What? really?? I have to tap buttons on the screen multiple times? reaction people give. This is especially aggravated when the wiper buttons are covered by the seat belt alert which show up intermittently when there s a bag on the back seat. Now it adds an annoyingly slow swipe before taps. I hope you agree that a double-click is the right solution so we can get the voice heard | * Push the button and wiper controls appear (like they do now) * Scroll the left wheel while controls are displayed to scroll through speed modes. * Optional audible beep | I agree about anything would be better than the current implementation. I ve been hit with a sudden downpour at high speeds on a highway and being head down trying to steady my hand to hit the wiper slider is dangerous at best all while poking the stalk button to be able to see at all. | 84 | 21 | 8,009 |
l8f1ro | 29 | Why isn t Tesla offering a Model X plaid+ with longer range I have been searching and I can not find this discussed anywhere. Why isn t Tesla offering a Plaid+ version of the model X. I imagine it would be very expensive but still I think a lot of people would still want the extra range especially if it means not having to deal with kids while supercharging!! | Probably cell constraints. I imagine they only wish to sell a limited quantity at this time. | I d order trade in my p100d for one. Hoping when 4680 calls are actually around Plaid + MX exists 🤞🏻 | 52 | 16 | 8,010 |
l8q4vj | 4,112 | As an owner I don t see how any owner can think Level 5 is anywhere close Got my Model 3 in December. Paid for FSD and I don t regret it (yet). I love the car better than anything I ve driven in recent memory. Like the center screen like the driving dynamics. Even like watching Netflix while waiting at the supercharger. I was motivated to post this because the design of the new Model S X seems to clearly indicate they don t actually think you ll need the steering wheel most of the time. That seems really really premature. The existing Autopilot is not great and I m even starting to avoid using it out of fear of unexpected behavior. The FSD videos show similar behavior even more unrefined and applied in even more scenarios. Projecting forward it s not getting better at a rate that will reach Level 5 anytime soon. At least 5 to 10 years I d guess. FSD might get us to Level 3 if we re really lucky. Problems: - Phantom braking. So much of it. I drive mainly at night these days and it now happens about once sometimes twice every 20-40 minute drive. In the same very general section of highway but not related to specific cars bridges or trucks as far as I can see. Could be any of those or none in some cases. Slamming on the brakes at 120 km h in traffic is not great. - Had it disengage mid off-ramp a few times and I had to grab the wheel to keep from slamming into a concrete barrier. - It seems to deliberately and sometimes dramatically slow while overtaking cars in parallel lanes causing the people behind me to slam on their brakes. - Fast moving but dense traffic seems to be the worst. It s not aggressive enough and confuses the people around me. Then will suddenly disengage or change speed making the situation worse. - Any time a lane closes or opens on a boulevard it can t figure out where to go and swerves before disengaging. - In moderate snow without the Autopilot even engaged the sensors go crazy detecting every lump of snow on the road as an obstacle and sounding alarms constantly at speeds under 20km h. - Fully automated lane change is dangerous usually wrong erratic and pointless. - Not moving at the speed of traffic. Holding at 70km h on long on-ramps for way too long then attempting to get to 120km h right at the end of the onramp. If you watch FSD videos some of this is improved but a lot of it is not. It s mostly just the same kind of unreliable behavior in a wider array of situations. The point of all of this is that it is not getting better very fast. And is bad enough now that I only really feel comfortable using it where I would have used cruise control in the past. Open highways in a nearly straight line with little traffic and good weather. It s basically $10k cruise control. And when you add the nags less automated than cruise control in some ways. | My wife has stopped using autopilot due to phantom breaking. I don t blame her when she is going 70mph and the brakes slam on bringing her down to 50mph in a few seconds on a motorway. So dangerous I can t believe after all this time and data they still haven t fixed it. Tesla are great and we love the car but there are several serious things like this that need to be addressed as a priority over boom boxes and new games | And to be clear I d be really happy to be wrong about this. I spent $10k betting that I will be. Maybe all of these problems stem from a handful of common sources that can be resolved over the next couple years. But given how many edge cases their are and how variable roads other drivers and conditions can be I don t think actual real Level 5 is going to happen for around decade. And Elon will claim lots of things are Level 5. But nothing actually will be until they sell the car without a steering wheel. | 680 | 2 | 8,011 |
l8q4vj | 4,112 | As an owner I don t see how any owner can think Level 5 is anywhere close Got my Model 3 in December. Paid for FSD and I don t regret it (yet). I love the car better than anything I ve driven in recent memory. Like the center screen like the driving dynamics. Even like watching Netflix while waiting at the supercharger. I was motivated to post this because the design of the new Model S X seems to clearly indicate they don t actually think you ll need the steering wheel most of the time. That seems really really premature. The existing Autopilot is not great and I m even starting to avoid using it out of fear of unexpected behavior. The FSD videos show similar behavior even more unrefined and applied in even more scenarios. Projecting forward it s not getting better at a rate that will reach Level 5 anytime soon. At least 5 to 10 years I d guess. FSD might get us to Level 3 if we re really lucky. Problems: - Phantom braking. So much of it. I drive mainly at night these days and it now happens about once sometimes twice every 20-40 minute drive. In the same very general section of highway but not related to specific cars bridges or trucks as far as I can see. Could be any of those or none in some cases. Slamming on the brakes at 120 km h in traffic is not great. - Had it disengage mid off-ramp a few times and I had to grab the wheel to keep from slamming into a concrete barrier. - It seems to deliberately and sometimes dramatically slow while overtaking cars in parallel lanes causing the people behind me to slam on their brakes. - Fast moving but dense traffic seems to be the worst. It s not aggressive enough and confuses the people around me. Then will suddenly disengage or change speed making the situation worse. - Any time a lane closes or opens on a boulevard it can t figure out where to go and swerves before disengaging. - In moderate snow without the Autopilot even engaged the sensors go crazy detecting every lump of snow on the road as an obstacle and sounding alarms constantly at speeds under 20km h. - Fully automated lane change is dangerous usually wrong erratic and pointless. - Not moving at the speed of traffic. Holding at 70km h on long on-ramps for way too long then attempting to get to 120km h right at the end of the onramp. If you watch FSD videos some of this is improved but a lot of it is not. It s mostly just the same kind of unreliable behavior in a wider array of situations. The point of all of this is that it is not getting better very fast. And is bad enough now that I only really feel comfortable using it where I would have used cruise control in the past. Open highways in a nearly straight line with little traffic and good weather. It s basically $10k cruise control. And when you add the nags less automated than cruise control in some ways. | My wife has stopped using autopilot due to phantom breaking. I don t blame her when she is going 70mph and the brakes slam on bringing her down to 50mph in a few seconds on a motorway. So dangerous I can t believe after all this time and data they still haven t fixed it. Tesla are great and we love the car but there are several serious things like this that need to be addressed as a priority over boom boxes and new games | Musk thinks FSD improvement should scale exponentially. Guess time will tell. | 680 | 2 | 8,012 |
l8q4vj | 4,112 | As an owner I don t see how any owner can think Level 5 is anywhere close Got my Model 3 in December. Paid for FSD and I don t regret it (yet). I love the car better than anything I ve driven in recent memory. Like the center screen like the driving dynamics. Even like watching Netflix while waiting at the supercharger. I was motivated to post this because the design of the new Model S X seems to clearly indicate they don t actually think you ll need the steering wheel most of the time. That seems really really premature. The existing Autopilot is not great and I m even starting to avoid using it out of fear of unexpected behavior. The FSD videos show similar behavior even more unrefined and applied in even more scenarios. Projecting forward it s not getting better at a rate that will reach Level 5 anytime soon. At least 5 to 10 years I d guess. FSD might get us to Level 3 if we re really lucky. Problems: - Phantom braking. So much of it. I drive mainly at night these days and it now happens about once sometimes twice every 20-40 minute drive. In the same very general section of highway but not related to specific cars bridges or trucks as far as I can see. Could be any of those or none in some cases. Slamming on the brakes at 120 km h in traffic is not great. - Had it disengage mid off-ramp a few times and I had to grab the wheel to keep from slamming into a concrete barrier. - It seems to deliberately and sometimes dramatically slow while overtaking cars in parallel lanes causing the people behind me to slam on their brakes. - Fast moving but dense traffic seems to be the worst. It s not aggressive enough and confuses the people around me. Then will suddenly disengage or change speed making the situation worse. - Any time a lane closes or opens on a boulevard it can t figure out where to go and swerves before disengaging. - In moderate snow without the Autopilot even engaged the sensors go crazy detecting every lump of snow on the road as an obstacle and sounding alarms constantly at speeds under 20km h. - Fully automated lane change is dangerous usually wrong erratic and pointless. - Not moving at the speed of traffic. Holding at 70km h on long on-ramps for way too long then attempting to get to 120km h right at the end of the onramp. If you watch FSD videos some of this is improved but a lot of it is not. It s mostly just the same kind of unreliable behavior in a wider array of situations. The point of all of this is that it is not getting better very fast. And is bad enough now that I only really feel comfortable using it where I would have used cruise control in the past. Open highways in a nearly straight line with little traffic and good weather. It s basically $10k cruise control. And when you add the nags less automated than cruise control in some ways. | My wife has stopped using autopilot due to phantom breaking. I don t blame her when she is going 70mph and the brakes slam on bringing her down to 50mph in a few seconds on a motorway. So dangerous I can t believe after all this time and data they still haven t fixed it. Tesla are great and we love the car but there are several serious things like this that need to be addressed as a priority over boom boxes and new games | Completely agree with all your points. It s to the point that I use FSD less and less because of these discomforts especially phantom breaking. | 680 | 4 | 8,013 |
l9ahol | 293 | Google broke the ability to log-in to YouTube completely on Jan 4 2021 - there is no longer a valid workaround like logging in to Plex with Google for new Tesla owners or MCU swaps. It s just come to my attention that the previous workaround to the this browser or app may not be secure issue when signing-in to YouTube on the Tesla browser has finally come to an unfortunate and sickening end thanks to Google s misdirected and ill-advised attempts at implementing more security . The problem is that the Tesla browser reveals itself in the user-agent as a debugging build and can be fixed - possibly - by removing the version extension from the Chrome xx.xx.xx user-agent string (say Chrome but nothing more). But we don t have any control over that as owners. See the write-up here: [https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 5305059 ](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 5305059 ) The announcement of sorts here: [Starting January 4 2021 Google will block all sign-ins to Google accounts from embedded browser frameworks : androiddev (reddit.com)](https: www.reddit.com r androiddev comments jvx9d1 starting_january_4_2021_google_will_block_all ) And the thread of outraged people here: [ This browser or app may not be secure error when trying to sign in with Google on desktop apps - Google Account Community](https: support.google.com accounts thread 22873505?msgid=24501976) \\- that was silenced last year before it took full effect for everyone. Big warning for anyone possibly looking for an MCU replacement that s already signed-in to YouTube (e.g. HW.2.5 to HW3) anyone considering a factory reset to solve a problem or looking for solutions to log-in to YouTube... there evidently no longer is one and it s up to Google to fix it (seems unlikely) or Tesla to update the browser to change the user-agent so login can work again. | As a web developer this sucks and I m deeply offended OTA can fix this in minutes | Yikes. Do existing sign-ins ever expire on their own? | 90 | 11 | 8,014 |
l9ahol | 293 | Google broke the ability to log-in to YouTube completely on Jan 4 2021 - there is no longer a valid workaround like logging in to Plex with Google for new Tesla owners or MCU swaps. It s just come to my attention that the previous workaround to the this browser or app may not be secure issue when signing-in to YouTube on the Tesla browser has finally come to an unfortunate and sickening end thanks to Google s misdirected and ill-advised attempts at implementing more security . The problem is that the Tesla browser reveals itself in the user-agent as a debugging build and can be fixed - possibly - by removing the version extension from the Chrome xx.xx.xx user-agent string (say Chrome but nothing more). But we don t have any control over that as owners. See the write-up here: [https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 5305059 ](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 5305059 ) The announcement of sorts here: [Starting January 4 2021 Google will block all sign-ins to Google accounts from embedded browser frameworks : androiddev (reddit.com)](https: www.reddit.com r androiddev comments jvx9d1 starting_january_4_2021_google_will_block_all ) And the thread of outraged people here: [ This browser or app may not be secure error when trying to sign in with Google on desktop apps - Google Account Community](https: support.google.com accounts thread 22873505?msgid=24501976) \\- that was silenced last year before it took full effect for everyone. Big warning for anyone possibly looking for an MCU replacement that s already signed-in to YouTube (e.g. HW.2.5 to HW3) anyone considering a factory reset to solve a problem or looking for solutions to log-in to YouTube... there evidently no longer is one and it s up to Google to fix it (seems unlikely) or Tesla to update the browser to change the user-agent so login can work again. | As a web developer this sucks and I m deeply offended OTA can fix this in minutes | It s Chromium right? | 90 | 19 | 8,015 |
l9ahol | 293 | Google broke the ability to log-in to YouTube completely on Jan 4 2021 - there is no longer a valid workaround like logging in to Plex with Google for new Tesla owners or MCU swaps. It s just come to my attention that the previous workaround to the this browser or app may not be secure issue when signing-in to YouTube on the Tesla browser has finally come to an unfortunate and sickening end thanks to Google s misdirected and ill-advised attempts at implementing more security . The problem is that the Tesla browser reveals itself in the user-agent as a debugging build and can be fixed - possibly - by removing the version extension from the Chrome xx.xx.xx user-agent string (say Chrome but nothing more). But we don t have any control over that as owners. See the write-up here: [https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 5305059 ](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 5305059 ) The announcement of sorts here: [Starting January 4 2021 Google will block all sign-ins to Google accounts from embedded browser frameworks : androiddev (reddit.com)](https: www.reddit.com r androiddev comments jvx9d1 starting_january_4_2021_google_will_block_all ) And the thread of outraged people here: [ This browser or app may not be secure error when trying to sign in with Google on desktop apps - Google Account Community](https: support.google.com accounts thread 22873505?msgid=24501976) \\- that was silenced last year before it took full effect for everyone. Big warning for anyone possibly looking for an MCU replacement that s already signed-in to YouTube (e.g. HW.2.5 to HW3) anyone considering a factory reset to solve a problem or looking for solutions to log-in to YouTube... there evidently no longer is one and it s up to Google to fix it (seems unlikely) or Tesla to update the browser to change the user-agent so login can work again. | outraged people ? fuck them all. I am certain Google did this to fix back doors and shit. Tesla needs to step up and do things right not google needs to keep supporting lax security. I own a 2021 M3P and YouTube is painfully slow that I never bother. Sometimes I think the rich kids live in their Tesla s. | Yikes. Do existing sign-ins ever expire on their own? | 63 | 11 | 8,016 |
l9kz8s | 2,119 | r TeslaMotors hits ONE MILLION Subscribers! 🚀 In retrospect it was inevitable... **We are the largest online community for an automotive brand on Reddit** and almost half the size of all of r cars. Crazy! [Here s](https: i.imgur.com cscgYbI.png) some perspective on our growth. It has been an absolutely wild year. We love you we thank you and we re here listening. Keep being amazing now onto 2 million! And don t forget our [Discord](https: discord.gg tesla)! **Messages from your mod team**: [u 110110](http: user 110110) \\- Just... wow. Been modding since 54k! That s crazy! It s going to be a fun year! Much love! u rcnfive \\- 2 Million is right around the corner just like my pizza. [u whiskeysauer](http: user whiskeysauer) \\- Here s to removing 1 000 more pictures of Tesla Hot Wheels. u majesticjg \\- Mods Rule. Subs drool. [u cookingboy](http: user cookingboy) \\- In order to accelerate community growth we will do a 1:5 sub split when we hit 2M subscribers. p.s. It seems just about time for an **AMA from Elon** let s work together to make it happen! We know he s here just next door at [r WallstreetBets](http: r WallstreetBets). | Congratulations to the team thanks for the work you put in. | Woot woot! Have some gold for all your hard work guys! | 107 | 4 | 8,017 |
l9kz8s | 2,119 | r TeslaMotors hits ONE MILLION Subscribers! 🚀 In retrospect it was inevitable... **We are the largest online community for an automotive brand on Reddit** and almost half the size of all of r cars. Crazy! [Here s](https: i.imgur.com cscgYbI.png) some perspective on our growth. It has been an absolutely wild year. We love you we thank you and we re here listening. Keep being amazing now onto 2 million! And don t forget our [Discord](https: discord.gg tesla)! **Messages from your mod team**: [u 110110](http: user 110110) \\- Just... wow. Been modding since 54k! That s crazy! It s going to be a fun year! Much love! u rcnfive \\- 2 Million is right around the corner just like my pizza. [u whiskeysauer](http: user whiskeysauer) \\- Here s to removing 1 000 more pictures of Tesla Hot Wheels. u majesticjg \\- Mods Rule. Subs drool. [u cookingboy](http: user cookingboy) \\- In order to accelerate community growth we will do a 1:5 sub split when we hit 2M subscribers. p.s. It seems just about time for an **AMA from Elon** let s work together to make it happen! We know he s here just next door at [r WallstreetBets](http: r WallstreetBets). | Congratulations to the team thanks for the work you put in. | **Six orders of magnitude** 10^6 Congrats you *Tesla millionaires!* | 107 | 12 | 8,018 |
l9kz8s | 2,119 | r TeslaMotors hits ONE MILLION Subscribers! 🚀 In retrospect it was inevitable... **We are the largest online community for an automotive brand on Reddit** and almost half the size of all of r cars. Crazy! [Here s](https: i.imgur.com cscgYbI.png) some perspective on our growth. It has been an absolutely wild year. We love you we thank you and we re here listening. Keep being amazing now onto 2 million! And don t forget our [Discord](https: discord.gg tesla)! **Messages from your mod team**: [u 110110](http: user 110110) \\- Just... wow. Been modding since 54k! That s crazy! It s going to be a fun year! Much love! u rcnfive \\- 2 Million is right around the corner just like my pizza. [u whiskeysauer](http: user whiskeysauer) \\- Here s to removing 1 000 more pictures of Tesla Hot Wheels. u majesticjg \\- Mods Rule. Subs drool. [u cookingboy](http: user cookingboy) \\- In order to accelerate community growth we will do a 1:5 sub split when we hit 2M subscribers. p.s. It seems just about time for an **AMA from Elon** let s work together to make it happen! We know he s here just next door at [r WallstreetBets](http: r WallstreetBets). | Do we have more subs than all other manufacturers combined though? | Woot woot! Have some gold for all your hard work guys! | 82 | 4 | 8,019 |
labox6 | 145 | Tesla 8GB eMMC Recall is finally OFFICIAL! GOOD NEWS! Tesla advised their service centers this morning that they have upgraded the previous warranty adjustment for the failed eMMC (Announced 11 9 2020: https: www.tesla.com support warranty-adjustment-program) to become an actual Recall for eligible vehicles. This is excellent news and long awaited for anyone who has had the symptoms of a failing eMMC (main screen going black or rebooting laggy interface etc) but was rejected for the eMMC daughterboard replacement because it hasn t completely failed yet . I expect a public announcement will be coming within the next few days with more details on the recall. It may be several weeks or months for the parts to become available and start scheduling for replacement but they finally did the right thing. - UPDATE: The recall notice was emailed on 2 2 2021 to eligible vehicles. Full announcement from the email in the [comments below](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments labox6 tesla_8gb_emmc_recall_is_finally_official glq5ee9 ). You can check for a recall on your VIN here: https: www.tesla.com vin-recall-search Full FAQ here: https: www.tesla.com support 8gb-emmc-recall-frequently-asked-questions | > but they finally did the right thing. This is no more Tesla doing the right thing than someone losing a lawsuit and actually paying agreed-upon restitution. The regulators have been circling the eMMC issue for a long while Tesla saw the writing on the wall and finally acquiesced. Tesla does a lot of cool stuff--but let s not give them credit where none is due. | Hmm that link still shows the original adjustment information and still says it s not a recall. | 57 | 2 | 8,020 |
labox6 | 145 | Tesla 8GB eMMC Recall is finally OFFICIAL! GOOD NEWS! Tesla advised their service centers this morning that they have upgraded the previous warranty adjustment for the failed eMMC (Announced 11 9 2020: https: www.tesla.com support warranty-adjustment-program) to become an actual Recall for eligible vehicles. This is excellent news and long awaited for anyone who has had the symptoms of a failing eMMC (main screen going black or rebooting laggy interface etc) but was rejected for the eMMC daughterboard replacement because it hasn t completely failed yet . I expect a public announcement will be coming within the next few days with more details on the recall. It may be several weeks or months for the parts to become available and start scheduling for replacement but they finally did the right thing. - UPDATE: The recall notice was emailed on 2 2 2021 to eligible vehicles. Full announcement from the email in the [comments below](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments labox6 tesla_8gb_emmc_recall_is_finally_official glq5ee9 ). You can check for a recall on your VIN here: https: www.tesla.com vin-recall-search Full FAQ here: https: www.tesla.com support 8gb-emmc-recall-frequently-asked-questions | > but they finally did the right thing. This is no more Tesla doing the right thing than someone losing a lawsuit and actually paying agreed-upon restitution. The regulators have been circling the eMMC issue for a long while Tesla saw the writing on the wall and finally acquiesced. Tesla does a lot of cool stuff--but let s not give them credit where none is due. | Do I get a partial refund if I paid the full price for my MCU replacement that included the eMMC? It was a factor in my decision. | 57 | 2 | 8,021 |
labox6 | 145 | Tesla 8GB eMMC Recall is finally OFFICIAL! GOOD NEWS! Tesla advised their service centers this morning that they have upgraded the previous warranty adjustment for the failed eMMC (Announced 11 9 2020: https: www.tesla.com support warranty-adjustment-program) to become an actual Recall for eligible vehicles. This is excellent news and long awaited for anyone who has had the symptoms of a failing eMMC (main screen going black or rebooting laggy interface etc) but was rejected for the eMMC daughterboard replacement because it hasn t completely failed yet . I expect a public announcement will be coming within the next few days with more details on the recall. It may be several weeks or months for the parts to become available and start scheduling for replacement but they finally did the right thing. - UPDATE: The recall notice was emailed on 2 2 2021 to eligible vehicles. Full announcement from the email in the [comments below](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments labox6 tesla_8gb_emmc_recall_is_finally_official glq5ee9 ). You can check for a recall on your VIN here: https: www.tesla.com vin-recall-search Full FAQ here: https: www.tesla.com support 8gb-emmc-recall-frequently-asked-questions | > but they finally did the right thing. This is no more Tesla doing the right thing than someone losing a lawsuit and actually paying agreed-upon restitution. The regulators have been circling the eMMC issue for a long while Tesla saw the writing on the wall and finally acquiesced. Tesla does a lot of cool stuff--but let s not give them credit where none is due. | Good deal! I m scheduled to get the MCU2 upgrade in the next week or so but great news for those who are sticking with MCU1 | 57 | 2 | 8,022 |
laytur | 285 | The new S X have a lithium~ion 12v battery that matches the cycle life of the main battery!! Elon just mentioned this in the Sandy Munro video. I think this will be coming to all models at some point. Elon also reiterated the stance that 12v is fairly legacy and moving to 48v with one wire for power and high speed data is the ultimate goal. With this improvement it gets rid of yet another maintenance item and may have reduced the size and weight as well. He did not mention if the location of the battery has moved or what type of cells it is using . | Here s hoping that change makes its way down to the 3 and Y soon. | I wonder if they will be able to retrofit this. I m guessing not if they were only able to do it in the new S X | 63 | 4 | 8,023 |
laytur | 285 | The new S X have a lithium~ion 12v battery that matches the cycle life of the main battery!! Elon just mentioned this in the Sandy Munro video. I think this will be coming to all models at some point. Elon also reiterated the stance that 12v is fairly legacy and moving to 48v with one wire for power and high speed data is the ultimate goal. With this improvement it gets rid of yet another maintenance item and may have reduced the size and weight as well. He did not mention if the location of the battery has moved or what type of cells it is using . | Here s hoping that change makes its way down to the 3 and Y soon. | Edit: Link here: https: youtu.be YAtLTLiqNwg | 63 | 5 | 8,024 |
laytur | 285 | The new S X have a lithium~ion 12v battery that matches the cycle life of the main battery!! Elon just mentioned this in the Sandy Munro video. I think this will be coming to all models at some point. Elon also reiterated the stance that 12v is fairly legacy and moving to 48v with one wire for power and high speed data is the ultimate goal. With this improvement it gets rid of yet another maintenance item and may have reduced the size and weight as well. He did not mention if the location of the battery has moved or what type of cells it is using . | Here s hoping that change makes its way down to the 3 and Y soon. | GOOD!!! because the current ones are SHIT. Had to replace it at 12K miles. | 63 | 10 | 8,025 |
lb95si | 110 | Very impressed by Offroad Assist on Model Y in the snow Got tons of snow here in the Midwest and had to drive down multiple streets with 6-12 inches of unplowed snow. In regular drive traction control does a lot of odd stuff that causes jolting wheel spin and a pretty unpredictable driving experience when trying to maneuver in deep snow. There were times where the car would suddenly catch and jump forward and almost caused me to hit some snow banks. With Offroad Assist on the car drove perfectly! I have Creep turned on and it would do whatever it needed to keep the car rolling slowly. It also didn t have any weird jolting and wheel spin and drove very accurately. | I had to drive down a 500-foot driveway in New England a couple times the last 24 hours with about 15” of snow. Traction and handling were fine but I definitely was “plowing” my way out with the front end and was wondering how much risk I was taking on with the undercarriage. | Do you have snow tires on? How much did the underbody drag? I live in northern New England and am thinking of a Model Y next year. Curious about the need for a 2” lift. | 32 | 5 | 8,026 |
lbcwnf | 58 | Tesla please confirm a normal wheel as an option You ve gotten the free press please confirm if you re going to let us choose a normal steering wheel. I m deciding whether to buy a $90 000 car from you and a big factor in this decision is whether or not I m going to be driving with controls from an 80 s sci-fi movie. For the love of sobek please just tell us. | For sure. I drive with my hand on the top of the wheel most of the time. The yoke would just be bad for me. | YOKE OR DIE | 36 | 5 | 8,027 |
lbcwnf | 58 | Tesla please confirm a normal wheel as an option You ve gotten the free press please confirm if you re going to let us choose a normal steering wheel. I m deciding whether to buy a $90 000 car from you and a big factor in this decision is whether or not I m going to be driving with controls from an 80 s sci-fi movie. For the love of sobek please just tell us. | Honestly I d operate under the assumption that a normal wheel will not be available. That being said first deliveries probably won t be happening until late March or after so you ve got some time to decide. | YOKE OR DIE | 34 | 5 | 8,028 |
lbyiou | 81 | Model 3 old versus new display interface (2020.48.12.1 vs 2020.48.35.5) Before I updated to the new software I had the idea to capture the old display so we could compare side by side the old and new versions: #Main comparison: https: i.imgur.com MaCtO9W.png And here s the summary: #The bad: - The mph number is about 32% taller and 32% wider (overall 74% bigger in area) in the old version compared to the new. I prefer the bigger version like most of you. - I prefer the older version with the green battery as opposed to the grey battery. I can see the reasoning - they want to restrict colour to only important stuff. But this is overkill and I d argue battery IS important. In fact they should change the colour of the battery from green to yellow to orange to red according to how much energy is left. - The map (EDIT: and reverse camera) is about 14% less wide in the new version. I prefer to see more map and less picture-of-my-car . This would be the case even if autopilot was perfect. - The charger and microphone buttons are missing! At least at first glance. I m sure there s a way to get to the screens though. - Only a small issue in my opinion but the P R N D letters are fainter in the new version. - EDIT thanks to JumbieArtGreg: The disable enable ding ding shortcut has now been removed from the new version. It was helpful when going through drive-throughs where it was easy for the car to complain when you were too close to curbs etc. #The good: - The rear camera and wiper button is in the main bottom panel. I much prefer this as in the old version sometimes I didn t have immediate access to such functions. - The nearby obstacle detection curve line is thicker which helps make it easier to see. #The neutral: - The MPH number has changed position to the corner of the screen - Even in daytime the bottom panel has changed from black to a white background. - The alerts gear and headlight icons have moved to the side of the screen instead of at the top. | I like a bigger map | Looks like the model 3 really needs a HUD. | 28 | 2 | 8,029 |
lbyiou | 81 | Model 3 old versus new display interface (2020.48.12.1 vs 2020.48.35.5) Before I updated to the new software I had the idea to capture the old display so we could compare side by side the old and new versions: #Main comparison: https: i.imgur.com MaCtO9W.png And here s the summary: #The bad: - The mph number is about 32% taller and 32% wider (overall 74% bigger in area) in the old version compared to the new. I prefer the bigger version like most of you. - I prefer the older version with the green battery as opposed to the grey battery. I can see the reasoning - they want to restrict colour to only important stuff. But this is overkill and I d argue battery IS important. In fact they should change the colour of the battery from green to yellow to orange to red according to how much energy is left. - The map (EDIT: and reverse camera) is about 14% less wide in the new version. I prefer to see more map and less picture-of-my-car . This would be the case even if autopilot was perfect. - The charger and microphone buttons are missing! At least at first glance. I m sure there s a way to get to the screens though. - Only a small issue in my opinion but the P R N D letters are fainter in the new version. - EDIT thanks to JumbieArtGreg: The disable enable ding ding shortcut has now been removed from the new version. It was helpful when going through drive-throughs where it was easy for the car to complain when you were too close to curbs etc. #The good: - The rear camera and wiper button is in the main bottom panel. I much prefer this as in the old version sometimes I didn t have immediate access to such functions. - The nearby obstacle detection curve line is thicker which helps make it easier to see. #The neutral: - The MPH number has changed position to the corner of the screen - Even in daytime the bottom panel has changed from black to a white background. - The alerts gear and headlight icons have moved to the side of the screen instead of at the top. | I like a bigger map | One thing that really drives me nuts is how on the old version I could easily turn off the “ding ding” warning sounds by pressing the little icon on the left side of the screen. Like for example when I m in the drive thru. I have no idea how it do it now. Super annoying Am I missing something? https: i.imgur.com 2bIvlKV.jpg | 28 | 2 | 8,030 |
lbyiou | 81 | Model 3 old versus new display interface (2020.48.12.1 vs 2020.48.35.5) Before I updated to the new software I had the idea to capture the old display so we could compare side by side the old and new versions: #Main comparison: https: i.imgur.com MaCtO9W.png And here s the summary: #The bad: - The mph number is about 32% taller and 32% wider (overall 74% bigger in area) in the old version compared to the new. I prefer the bigger version like most of you. - I prefer the older version with the green battery as opposed to the grey battery. I can see the reasoning - they want to restrict colour to only important stuff. But this is overkill and I d argue battery IS important. In fact they should change the colour of the battery from green to yellow to orange to red according to how much energy is left. - The map (EDIT: and reverse camera) is about 14% less wide in the new version. I prefer to see more map and less picture-of-my-car . This would be the case even if autopilot was perfect. - The charger and microphone buttons are missing! At least at first glance. I m sure there s a way to get to the screens though. - Only a small issue in my opinion but the P R N D letters are fainter in the new version. - EDIT thanks to JumbieArtGreg: The disable enable ding ding shortcut has now been removed from the new version. It was helpful when going through drive-throughs where it was easy for the car to complain when you were too close to curbs etc. #The good: - The rear camera and wiper button is in the main bottom panel. I much prefer this as in the old version sometimes I didn t have immediate access to such functions. - The nearby obstacle detection curve line is thicker which helps make it easier to see. #The neutral: - The MPH number has changed position to the corner of the screen - Even in daytime the bottom panel has changed from black to a white background. - The alerts gear and headlight icons have moved to the side of the screen instead of at the top. | I like a bigger map | > The charger and microphone buttons are missing! At least at first glance. I m sure there s a way to get to the screens though. I agree about the microphone button being missing - and it really needs to be close to the passenger. For the charger button isn t that the same as tapping the battery indicator? | 28 | 2 | 8,031 |
lc2j2q | 693 | The way Tesla has handled the MCU eMMC issues really upsets me I know I m not alone in this sentiment but the way they have handled the issue has got me upset enough to make a post about this. I ve been a huge Tesla proponent. Fell in love with Tesla after test driving one in 2015. Took two years before I convinced my wife to pull a trigger in 2017. I won t say those were the good old days since I know people still had issues with service back then. But I definitely did feel that Tesla was taking care of customers. Over time service definitely went downhill. Luckily for me after taking care of some issues in the first two years of ownership my car has remained fairly trouble free. But the occasional times I ve had to go for service it hasn t been as pleasant as it once was. I don t blame the local service guys. When Tesla was laser focused on profitability service was cut severely and they ve all had do way more with less. And depending on the service area you fell in you were either very lucky to have service centers that are adequately staffed for the Tesla population (Richmond VA area) or poorly staffed for the number of cars (New York). I excused a lot of it and expected it to be temporary until they achieved profitability. But unfortunately MCU debacle proves that may not be the case. For those unaware eMMC failure on the S X is 100% a Tesla induced issue. In the earlier versions of the Tesla firmwares the OS was writing logs to the eMMC excessively to the point that the memory wore out and you would start seeing slow boot ups and in the end a completely unresponsive and blank screen. The issue was brought to light very early on by one of Tesla hackers Jason Hughes (wk057). Him and others tried to get Tesla s attention on the issue and get the logging reduced. But by the time Elon acknowledged it on twitter most of the cars had their memory worn out already. Tesla had charged owners $1 500 to replace their MCUs if it had an eMMC failure (if they were out of warranty). Once again people pointed out that replacing the entire MCU is like replacing a computer for a failed hard drive. Again it took Tesla a year or so to develop daughterboard replacement for only $500. Needless to say this has pissed of a lot of early owners. We were never given a choice to reduce the logging and now to see Tesla state that MCUs are not meant to last that long is complete BS. *But you know what really grinds my gears ? The NHTSA response letter to Tesla indicates that Tesla specifically said they were not under any obligation to issue a recall. To NHTSA. AFTER NHTSA asked them to do the recall.* I got tired of my slow MCU and upgraded to MCU 2 last year so truly I no longer have any skin in the fight. But I also feel that as much as I have praised Tesla with friends and family in the past they deserve all the criticism they get when it comes to the MCU issues. If Tesla Elon comes across this post here s my message. Improve your service game. A great product will bring you customers. Only great service (or monopoly) will keep you those customers. | Tesla is doing a recall and will refund those that have previously paid for replacement. https: www.tesla.com support 8gb-emmc-recall-frequently-asked-questions?redirect=no E: No I m not defending them. I ll just letting everyone know that recall has happened. | I ve seen a lot on this but really don t know much about it from a technical standpoint. Is this something that could happen with a Model 3? | 154 | 6 | 8,032 |
lc2j2q | 693 | The way Tesla has handled the MCU eMMC issues really upsets me I know I m not alone in this sentiment but the way they have handled the issue has got me upset enough to make a post about this. I ve been a huge Tesla proponent. Fell in love with Tesla after test driving one in 2015. Took two years before I convinced my wife to pull a trigger in 2017. I won t say those were the good old days since I know people still had issues with service back then. But I definitely did feel that Tesla was taking care of customers. Over time service definitely went downhill. Luckily for me after taking care of some issues in the first two years of ownership my car has remained fairly trouble free. But the occasional times I ve had to go for service it hasn t been as pleasant as it once was. I don t blame the local service guys. When Tesla was laser focused on profitability service was cut severely and they ve all had do way more with less. And depending on the service area you fell in you were either very lucky to have service centers that are adequately staffed for the Tesla population (Richmond VA area) or poorly staffed for the number of cars (New York). I excused a lot of it and expected it to be temporary until they achieved profitability. But unfortunately MCU debacle proves that may not be the case. For those unaware eMMC failure on the S X is 100% a Tesla induced issue. In the earlier versions of the Tesla firmwares the OS was writing logs to the eMMC excessively to the point that the memory wore out and you would start seeing slow boot ups and in the end a completely unresponsive and blank screen. The issue was brought to light very early on by one of Tesla hackers Jason Hughes (wk057). Him and others tried to get Tesla s attention on the issue and get the logging reduced. But by the time Elon acknowledged it on twitter most of the cars had their memory worn out already. Tesla had charged owners $1 500 to replace their MCUs if it had an eMMC failure (if they were out of warranty). Once again people pointed out that replacing the entire MCU is like replacing a computer for a failed hard drive. Again it took Tesla a year or so to develop daughterboard replacement for only $500. Needless to say this has pissed of a lot of early owners. We were never given a choice to reduce the logging and now to see Tesla state that MCUs are not meant to last that long is complete BS. *But you know what really grinds my gears ? The NHTSA response letter to Tesla indicates that Tesla specifically said they were not under any obligation to issue a recall. To NHTSA. AFTER NHTSA asked them to do the recall.* I got tired of my slow MCU and upgraded to MCU 2 last year so truly I no longer have any skin in the fight. But I also feel that as much as I have praised Tesla with friends and family in the past they deserve all the criticism they get when it comes to the MCU issues. If Tesla Elon comes across this post here s my message. Improve your service game. A great product will bring you customers. Only great service (or monopoly) will keep you those customers. | I may have missed it but I feel like [this](https: static.nhtsa.gov odi inv 2020 INRL-EA20003-82493P.pdf) letter hasn t been mentioned in this sub yet. In the letter Tesla asserted that the eMMC could only be expected to last 5-6 years. Tesla disagreed with the NHTSA s argument that the eMMC should last for the useful lifetime of the vehicle. Tesla argued that it was then-technologically infeasible to make the eMMC last as long as the useful lifetime of the vehicle (which I believe is false since they could have put in a larger eMMC to spread the wear and also modified firmware to reduce writes to the eMMC). Basically in the letter Tesla argues that it should be considered an expendable component that needs to be replaced at least once in the useful lifetime of the vehicle. I think being upset about that is pretty justified. | I ve seen a lot on this but really don t know much about it from a technical standpoint. Is this something that could happen with a Model 3? | 137 | 6 | 8,033 |
lc2j2q | 693 | The way Tesla has handled the MCU eMMC issues really upsets me I know I m not alone in this sentiment but the way they have handled the issue has got me upset enough to make a post about this. I ve been a huge Tesla proponent. Fell in love with Tesla after test driving one in 2015. Took two years before I convinced my wife to pull a trigger in 2017. I won t say those were the good old days since I know people still had issues with service back then. But I definitely did feel that Tesla was taking care of customers. Over time service definitely went downhill. Luckily for me after taking care of some issues in the first two years of ownership my car has remained fairly trouble free. But the occasional times I ve had to go for service it hasn t been as pleasant as it once was. I don t blame the local service guys. When Tesla was laser focused on profitability service was cut severely and they ve all had do way more with less. And depending on the service area you fell in you were either very lucky to have service centers that are adequately staffed for the Tesla population (Richmond VA area) or poorly staffed for the number of cars (New York). I excused a lot of it and expected it to be temporary until they achieved profitability. But unfortunately MCU debacle proves that may not be the case. For those unaware eMMC failure on the S X is 100% a Tesla induced issue. In the earlier versions of the Tesla firmwares the OS was writing logs to the eMMC excessively to the point that the memory wore out and you would start seeing slow boot ups and in the end a completely unresponsive and blank screen. The issue was brought to light very early on by one of Tesla hackers Jason Hughes (wk057). Him and others tried to get Tesla s attention on the issue and get the logging reduced. But by the time Elon acknowledged it on twitter most of the cars had their memory worn out already. Tesla had charged owners $1 500 to replace their MCUs if it had an eMMC failure (if they were out of warranty). Once again people pointed out that replacing the entire MCU is like replacing a computer for a failed hard drive. Again it took Tesla a year or so to develop daughterboard replacement for only $500. Needless to say this has pissed of a lot of early owners. We were never given a choice to reduce the logging and now to see Tesla state that MCUs are not meant to last that long is complete BS. *But you know what really grinds my gears ? The NHTSA response letter to Tesla indicates that Tesla specifically said they were not under any obligation to issue a recall. To NHTSA. AFTER NHTSA asked them to do the recall.* I got tired of my slow MCU and upgraded to MCU 2 last year so truly I no longer have any skin in the fight. But I also feel that as much as I have praised Tesla with friends and family in the past they deserve all the criticism they get when it comes to the MCU issues. If Tesla Elon comes across this post here s my message. Improve your service game. A great product will bring you customers. Only great service (or monopoly) will keep you those customers. | Tesla is doing a recall and will refund those that have previously paid for replacement. https: www.tesla.com support 8gb-emmc-recall-frequently-asked-questions?redirect=no E: No I m not defending them. I ll just letting everyone know that recall has happened. | Agreed. I have an early 2018 S75D and the MCU was failing on me every so often. I notified service of it but didn t take any steps to have it replaced at that time. I decided to upgrade to the latest MCU and the existing MCU hard crashed on the way to the appt. I again notified them of that. When I got the bill I paid full price for the new MCU. I had imagined that since my previous MCU was failing (had failed) I d get some kind of discount but they said since I requested the upgrade the previous MCU didn t matter. That s somewhat true but I left unhappy. I understand Tesla apparently almost never discounts anything especially service things but if I had been given a few hundred bucks off I would have left thrilled. I still love my car but honestly at this point I m not sure my next car will be a Tesla. And my night mode backup camera still doesn t work since the MCU upgrade. | 154 | 27 | 8,034 |
lc3j75 | 61 | Does anyone else think that autosteer on city streets is way too aggressive? For example if autosteer is engaged and we re approaching a red light it will keep going at full speed until it s uncomfortably close to the cars or the crosswalk and then it will slam on the brakes. Multiple times I ve had to take over because it simply doesn t come close to natural driving and it scares my passengers and myself. If I m driving manually and see a car stopped ahead I will let go of the accelerator and gradually come to a stop. I don t keep going at the same speed as if there was no obstruction. It doesn t just happen at stop light it s also when cars slow down to turn or when coming up on traffic. Funny enough I use State Farm Insurance Drive Safe and Save which tracks my driving habits to give me a score and a discount. When I use Autosteer i constantly get docked for hard braking and fast acceleration. With autosteer: https: i.imgur.com BVgOu5U.jpg Without: https: i.imgur.com M0Z5vcq.jpg Edit: I have my follow distance set to 6 and it doesn t seem to make a difference | Agreed! I think it starts slowing down way too late for red lights and stop signs... | Reminds me of the first iteration of autopilot. They have smoothed it out over the 5 years that we ve owned it to a reasonable place. Hopefully they will do the same for FSD. Is there a way for you to give beta feedback? | 53 | 7 | 8,035 |
lcddxy | 177 | Teslabjørn compares Model 3 Performance 2021 vs 2019 acceleration in cold climate at different charge levels Teslabjørn just published a very interesting video showing how the 2021 Model 3 Performance loses tons of performance seemingly because it cools the battery way to much leaving it with a power output of just 120kW @ 10% charge compared to 230kW on the 2019 model after driving from a 90% charge. On the 2019 the battery temperature stays at around 28°C but the 2021 model drops all the way down to 9°C in the same conditions. The 2021 couldn t even keep highway speeds towards the end because of the insane power limit. Seems like a very weird decision to let it get that low when it loses that much performance but maybe this is by design just to keep the efficiency high is the answer to activate Track Mode to keep this from happening? Can be very dangerous not being able to keep the speed on a highway. Results table here [https: imgur.com a HWY0vqq](https: imgur.com a HWY0vqq) (All cred to Teslabjørn on YouTube) Check out the video here [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=C-2r4Y\\_lUsk](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=C-2r4Y_lUsk) | I think it s pretty crap that Tesla is making year to year changes that have huge ownership impacts with basically no transparency to the customer. We test drove a Model Y with low-regen and now our vehicle to be delivered soon will not have that option. No one informed us of this nor was any explanation officially provided despite many asking for a low-regen snow mode . Now the heat pump cars are displaying reduced winter charger rates regen and performance at low SoC due to siphoning a ton of heat from the pack presumably for efficiency. Is this expected operation? Who knows Tesla doesn t feel the need to explain. | There should just be an option for the driver to choose the level of battery heating for either high power or high efficiency. On the one hand you don t want low power or charge speeds on road trips but on the other hand it does not make sense to heat the battery if you only drive 10 km to work or to get groceries for example. | 57 | 20 | 8,036 |
lcddxy | 177 | Teslabjørn compares Model 3 Performance 2021 vs 2019 acceleration in cold climate at different charge levels Teslabjørn just published a very interesting video showing how the 2021 Model 3 Performance loses tons of performance seemingly because it cools the battery way to much leaving it with a power output of just 120kW @ 10% charge compared to 230kW on the 2019 model after driving from a 90% charge. On the 2019 the battery temperature stays at around 28°C but the 2021 model drops all the way down to 9°C in the same conditions. The 2021 couldn t even keep highway speeds towards the end because of the insane power limit. Seems like a very weird decision to let it get that low when it loses that much performance but maybe this is by design just to keep the efficiency high is the answer to activate Track Mode to keep this from happening? Can be very dangerous not being able to keep the speed on a highway. Results table here [https: imgur.com a HWY0vqq](https: imgur.com a HWY0vqq) (All cred to Teslabjørn on YouTube) Check out the video here [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=C-2r4Y\\_lUsk](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=C-2r4Y_lUsk) | I think it s pretty crap that Tesla is making year to year changes that have huge ownership impacts with basically no transparency to the customer. We test drove a Model Y with low-regen and now our vehicle to be delivered soon will not have that option. No one informed us of this nor was any explanation officially provided despite many asking for a low-regen snow mode . Now the heat pump cars are displaying reduced winter charger rates regen and performance at low SoC due to siphoning a ton of heat from the pack presumably for efficiency. Is this expected operation? Who knows Tesla doesn t feel the need to explain. | Weird. I demand logical answers from someone smarter than me. I ll guess though. Tesla made a mistake. Software update ensuing. | 57 | 26 | 8,037 |
lcru8z | 32 | Is there a difference between the new free pearl white multi-coat paint and the one that used to be an upcharge? I ve been out of the tesla news loop since shortly after I purchased my 19 M3P but I recently ordered a 21 MS with the news that the refresh is coming. I wasn t surprised to see that white was now free as I d heard that they were switching from black to some form of base white as the free color awhile ago. What did surprise me was that the name of the base paint is the same as the old premium color: pearl white multi-coat. Can someone fill me in why they made this switch? | The real reason was that the black cars showed too many imperfections of Tesla s paint process and causing a lot of follow up service center repairs for the free black paint. White shows the imperfection the least so they wanted to go white compared to black so it was a cost saving move for Tesla to hide their QC issues. | It s the same AFAIK. Doesn t make much sense to me either. | 62 | 2 | 8,038 |
lcru8z | 32 | Is there a difference between the new free pearl white multi-coat paint and the one that used to be an upcharge? I ve been out of the tesla news loop since shortly after I purchased my 19 M3P but I recently ordered a 21 MS with the news that the refresh is coming. I wasn t surprised to see that white was now free as I d heard that they were switching from black to some form of base white as the free color awhile ago. What did surprise me was that the name of the base paint is the same as the old premium color: pearl white multi-coat. Can someone fill me in why they made this switch? | The real reason was that the black cars showed too many imperfections of Tesla s paint process and causing a lot of follow up service center repairs for the free black paint. White shows the imperfection the least so they wanted to go white compared to black so it was a cost saving move for Tesla to hide their QC issues. | The official claim was that there were too many black cars so they decided to go with white as the default. Honestly paint up sells are rarely because the paint materially costs that much more. It is partly to maintain a proportion of colors on the market to align with the branding of the car as well as to maintain exclusivity and value of certain exotic colors. Tesla seemed to spend a lot of effort on paint automation so who knows maybe the multi coat white used to be more expensive to manufacture but not anymore. | 62 | 11 | 8,039 |
ld7rvg | 39 | How can I Claim Ownership of a used Tesla when the link won t appear on my Account page and support won t talk to me until I ve claimed ownership? I bought a used Tesla this week 500 miles away from home and physically walked in to the dealership in Kansas City on my way back where even they had difficulty getting the Claim Ownership link to appear on my account page. But then it finally did we submitted my documents and then I got a no-reply email saying I need to resubmit my documents but the included link just takes me back to my Account Settings page where the Claim Ownership link does not appear. I ve tried Chrome Edge Android Linux Windows clearing cookies incognito mode the Tesla App and iOS Safari at the dealership. I sent an email to [email protected] and received a canned response that you have to contact them through your account page which brings me to a contact form with only two selectable topics: ordering a roof or becoming an installer. Anybody have any insight? Love the car. Have already started paying for repairs. Would like to join the club please. | Have you tried this page with instructions to transfer a vehicle? [https: www.tesla.com support account-support#add-remove-products](https: www.tesla.com support account-support#add-remove-products) | Easiest way to deal with this is to drive into any Tesla service center and explain. They will fix it in a few minutes. | 54 | 4 | 8,040 |
ld7rvg | 39 | How can I Claim Ownership of a used Tesla when the link won t appear on my Account page and support won t talk to me until I ve claimed ownership? I bought a used Tesla this week 500 miles away from home and physically walked in to the dealership in Kansas City on my way back where even they had difficulty getting the Claim Ownership link to appear on my account page. But then it finally did we submitted my documents and then I got a no-reply email saying I need to resubmit my documents but the included link just takes me back to my Account Settings page where the Claim Ownership link does not appear. I ve tried Chrome Edge Android Linux Windows clearing cookies incognito mode the Tesla App and iOS Safari at the dealership. I sent an email to [email protected] and received a canned response that you have to contact them through your account page which brings me to a contact form with only two selectable topics: ordering a roof or becoming an installer. Anybody have any insight? Love the car. Have already started paying for repairs. Would like to join the club please. | Have you tried this page with instructions to transfer a vehicle? [https: www.tesla.com support account-support#add-remove-products](https: www.tesla.com support account-support#add-remove-products) | Have you tried the live chat that you get to through your account page? I used it yesterday for something else and it seemed to be a human on the other end. | 54 | 7 | 8,041 |
ldfmp7 | 33 | Model Y tow hitch factory option no longer available Just went to order and the option is no longer there. Was there a couple days ago so must have just been removed. & #x200B Talked with sales and they confirmed. There is a tow hitch accessory in the shop for $1200 (so a $200 price increase) and it has to be installed at a service center. They offered to arrange to have the tow hitch shipped to the service center and be ready when I pick up the vehicle but that s more of a hassle and more expensive than it used to be to just select the option. Edit: it s back now as of 18:45 | I just heard from supervisor of local Tesla showroom who said she has been told the removal from the configurator was a hiccup and it would be returning shortly. Who knows if this is accurate but figured I would share. | I saw this as well and was going to ask here. | 33 | 2 | 8,042 |
ldfmp7 | 33 | Model Y tow hitch factory option no longer available Just went to order and the option is no longer there. Was there a couple days ago so must have just been removed. & #x200B Talked with sales and they confirmed. There is a tow hitch accessory in the shop for $1200 (so a $200 price increase) and it has to be installed at a service center. They offered to arrange to have the tow hitch shipped to the service center and be ready when I pick up the vehicle but that s more of a hassle and more expensive than it used to be to just select the option. Edit: it s back now as of 18:45 | I just heard from supervisor of local Tesla showroom who said she has been told the removal from the configurator was a hiccup and it would be returning shortly. Who knows if this is accurate but figured I would share. | Good luck -- original Y I ordered with a tow hitch came damaged and I had to take an on the lot car. Took 3 months for a hitch to come in after ordering from tesla store online. | 33 | 2 | 8,043 |
ldfmp7 | 33 | Model Y tow hitch factory option no longer available Just went to order and the option is no longer there. Was there a couple days ago so must have just been removed. & #x200B Talked with sales and they confirmed. There is a tow hitch accessory in the shop for $1200 (so a $200 price increase) and it has to be installed at a service center. They offered to arrange to have the tow hitch shipped to the service center and be ready when I pick up the vehicle but that s more of a hassle and more expensive than it used to be to just select the option. Edit: it s back now as of 18:45 | I just heard from supervisor of local Tesla showroom who said she has been told the removal from the configurator was a hiccup and it would be returning shortly. Who knows if this is accurate but figured I would share. | probably to streamline production now that there s more variations in builds. | 33 | 6 | 8,044 |
lefga4 | 36 | QoL Suggestion with Pre-heating It would be nice if we could queue up the option to turn on climate BEFORE the car wakes up. Lately the app can take minutes to wake up the car. It would be nice if we could select climate to turn on as soon as it s done waking up the car without having to leave the app open. | I m still confused why we can t set preheat schedule through the app. | I created some Tasker apps to preheat the car with one click using Tasker Plugin for Tesla. You can control just about everything with that plugin. Super easy if you re on Android. | 46 | 15 | 8,045 |
leh3w7 | 100 | First U.S. Model 3 w Heated Steering Wheel Reported in Bay Area CA. A user from TMC reported that his new 2021 M3LR (VIN 902XX) has a functioning heated steering wheel. Here s a link to the original post: [https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads 2021-m3lr-heated-steering-wheel-yes.219970 ](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads 2021-m3lr-heated-steering-wheel-yes.219970 ) This should hopefully address speculation of when U.S. Model 3s would get the heated steering wheel as seen on Model Y. | To those thinking of ordering now solely because of the heated steering wheel you might want to wait until it s actually an advertised feature. With othere recently introduced changes I ve seen posts of some people getting certain features and others not even with deliveries around the same time. Until it s advertised as a feature if you order one and don t get it for any reason you have no recourse. You won t be able to say you saw a forum post where someone got one so you thought your car would have it. I m just throwing this out there because I know a lot of people are waiting for this. | I will get my car (M3LR) in Europe 18th February. Do you think I could have it? 🤔 I ordered it in December 5th. Three days after that guy in the link and it is also built in the same factory. I know it will have Panasonic battery. | 48 | 4 | 8,046 |
leh3w7 | 100 | First U.S. Model 3 w Heated Steering Wheel Reported in Bay Area CA. A user from TMC reported that his new 2021 M3LR (VIN 902XX) has a functioning heated steering wheel. Here s a link to the original post: [https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads 2021-m3lr-heated-steering-wheel-yes.219970 ](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads 2021-m3lr-heated-steering-wheel-yes.219970 ) This should hopefully address speculation of when U.S. Model 3s would get the heated steering wheel as seen on Model Y. | To those thinking of ordering now solely because of the heated steering wheel you might want to wait until it s actually an advertised feature. With othere recently introduced changes I ve seen posts of some people getting certain features and others not even with deliveries around the same time. Until it s advertised as a feature if you order one and don t get it for any reason you have no recourse. You won t be able to say you saw a forum post where someone got one so you thought your car would have it. I m just throwing this out there because I know a lot of people are waiting for this. | Placed my order two weeks but still no VIN. Hopefully mine gets it. | 48 | 11 | 8,047 |
lekf4e | 66 | Test drove my first Tesla today with every expectation of buying a new SR MY Good morning all. Last night I went to the closest Tesla dealership for a test drive and my first ever experience with a Tesla EV. I spent hours and hours on research over the past several months and with the recent release of the SR MY and myself purchasing my first home I thought I d finally be making the switch. Please excuse the wall of text I ll work on formatting once I get coffee and sit at my PC. For now I m writing this up from my bed as the memories are fresh and I m unable to sleep. A bit of background: I m a 30 year old guy who would consider myself a former “car guy” but have shifted towards practicality in recent years. Loving tech and finally having my own home to charge an EV I thought this switch would be a no brainer but my test drive didn t seal the deal for me as expected. I test drove the new SR MY as this is what I had decided would be the model I would buy. I wanted to make sure that I didn t test drive a performance model and then purchase the SR which I can imagine feel vastly different in terms of acceleration. First thing I noticed- The seats were the most comfortable that I had ever sat in. Truly they re a dream. The white interior was beautiful in person and the leather felt so smooth. Myself and my GF talked about them repeatedly on the ~45 minute drive home but unfortunately that s where the wow factor stopped. Upon sitting down into the Y a Tesla employee gave me a brief rundown of how everything works prior to our departure. Shockingly the screen was unresponsive and laggy on more than one occasion and section of the settings. This was extremely surprising to myself my GF and the employee and certainly disheartening given the fact that everything is operated from this screen. It occurred again even while on the drive and my GF attempted to click around. Is this common? I sure hadn t seen it in the YouTube videos I had viewed. I m not sure of an explanation but I can t think of a great one. One foot driving- This didn t come as a surprise to me like it may to some as I had read about it pretty extensively. But the harshness certainly took a bit to get used to. During my drive I wasn t able to master it and become a smooth driver. Sure it would probably become second nature after a few days. But with my small taste of Tesla I can t say I loved this feature but certainly understand the engineering benefits. The pano sunroof was beautiful! I loved it but also wondered how effective the tint is when the sun is overhead. I previously owned a 2016 VW GTI that had a mesh screen that covered the sunroof when closed. Even with the mesh and the tinted glass I still found myself wanting a form of a blackout cover. I can t help but think that the MY would also leave me feeling this way at one point or another. I d love to hear back Fr on anyone with opinions on this. Space- This was my favorite aspect of the vehicle. Sitting upright comfortable and having tons of cargo room was truly incredible. I also laid down in the back with my GF and I can confidently say that we could sleep in this vehicle if we were to take it camping (I m 6 4”). Suspension- Many reported a harsh ride in their MY. I didn t find this to be the case at all. The car rod smooth lacked major wind noise (single pane glass on this test drive vehicle) and was overall very pleasant to ride in. Acceleration- Many people overhyped this for me. Although the SR MY is “slow” for a Tesla at 0-60 in 5.4 seconds many told me that the instant torque of an EV would surprise me and be very addicting. This was not the case at all. Enough so that I asked the sales associate to come out to the vehicle after my drive to see if the car was on valet mode or something similar. It was truly sluggish and not in any way impressive to me. Context: I currently drive a 2019 VW Golf R with minor modifications that have my 0-60 at ~3.5 seconds. FSD- I had zero intentions of purchasing this package but knew I had to try it on my test drive. From lack of aggression to hugging the yellow line around turns I wasn t able to tolerate allowing the vehicle to drive for long. I didn t feel initial confidence in it and in very little time I confirmed the notion that I wouldn t want to pay for that feature. One question I do have to you all- is the audible tone announcing a green light available without self driving? I truly loved that feature. Overall if I had to rate the SR MY I d probably give it a 7.6 10. It s a fine car and may scratch the itch for those wanting a spacious EV for less than a MX but for me the hype was far too strong. I came in with high expectations expecting to leave the lot placing an order and saying goodbye to my beloved Golf R. But I can confidently say that I won t be purchasing a SR MY anytime soon if ever. I know I m disparaging this vehicle in a Tesla subreddit where the fans are passionate but I wanted to accept the downvotes that will follow in hopes of giving an unbiased opinion that differs from the majority that I ve came across. I ll gladly answer questions about my experience in the comments and would love to hear feedback from anyone who is willing to cultivate constructive conversation regarding this topic. For now happy Sunday and thank you for reading. EDIT: I made this post with one intention- To educate those who are potentially interested in the new SR MY more specifically individuals with no experience in the EV world like myself. I was hoping to learn more answer questions and cultivate good conversation on the topic and my specific situation. Prior to posting driving the car and even before researching a great friend of mine whom I respect a lot warned me that this sub was “a cult”. I didn t dismiss his opinion but I also didn t allow it to stop me from posting honestly. Unfortunately after reading the responses here many of these replies are very emotionally charged. I have been downvoted for stating facts such as “no it was not in any form of valet chill mode” confirmed by a Tesla employee. Downvoting factual responses devalues the voting system on Reddit and screams cult following with blinders due to a preconceived dedication to a company. This blind consumerism is something that I d urge you all to think critically about and attempt to avoid in the future if you truly love this company as it seems. The detrimental effects of this mindset drive lackluster development and competition allowing for companies to produce mediocre products and slows innovation. I truly do not see this happening with Tesla as they re extreme innovators and I admire the barriers they have broken. But this type of behavior can easily become the norm for many other facets of life interests and purchases. All of that said I m considering scheduling another test drive. One with a dual motor MY to see how “peppy” it feels and in hopes that the screen freezes were an anomaly. I ll likely report back with an update upon completion of this test drive but know it will be another brutally honest review. I expect the continued downvotes but thankfully these made up internet points mean nothing. Happy Super Bowl Sunday all. And please strive to remove emotion from your judgement when possible. | Never had any sluggish screen might have just needed a reboot. And you shouldn t buy the slow one coming from a Golf R. | Out of curiosity why did you not try the model 3? Coming from a golf r this would be a better comparison | 51 | 5 | 8,048 |
lekf4e | 66 | Test drove my first Tesla today with every expectation of buying a new SR MY Good morning all. Last night I went to the closest Tesla dealership for a test drive and my first ever experience with a Tesla EV. I spent hours and hours on research over the past several months and with the recent release of the SR MY and myself purchasing my first home I thought I d finally be making the switch. Please excuse the wall of text I ll work on formatting once I get coffee and sit at my PC. For now I m writing this up from my bed as the memories are fresh and I m unable to sleep. A bit of background: I m a 30 year old guy who would consider myself a former “car guy” but have shifted towards practicality in recent years. Loving tech and finally having my own home to charge an EV I thought this switch would be a no brainer but my test drive didn t seal the deal for me as expected. I test drove the new SR MY as this is what I had decided would be the model I would buy. I wanted to make sure that I didn t test drive a performance model and then purchase the SR which I can imagine feel vastly different in terms of acceleration. First thing I noticed- The seats were the most comfortable that I had ever sat in. Truly they re a dream. The white interior was beautiful in person and the leather felt so smooth. Myself and my GF talked about them repeatedly on the ~45 minute drive home but unfortunately that s where the wow factor stopped. Upon sitting down into the Y a Tesla employee gave me a brief rundown of how everything works prior to our departure. Shockingly the screen was unresponsive and laggy on more than one occasion and section of the settings. This was extremely surprising to myself my GF and the employee and certainly disheartening given the fact that everything is operated from this screen. It occurred again even while on the drive and my GF attempted to click around. Is this common? I sure hadn t seen it in the YouTube videos I had viewed. I m not sure of an explanation but I can t think of a great one. One foot driving- This didn t come as a surprise to me like it may to some as I had read about it pretty extensively. But the harshness certainly took a bit to get used to. During my drive I wasn t able to master it and become a smooth driver. Sure it would probably become second nature after a few days. But with my small taste of Tesla I can t say I loved this feature but certainly understand the engineering benefits. The pano sunroof was beautiful! I loved it but also wondered how effective the tint is when the sun is overhead. I previously owned a 2016 VW GTI that had a mesh screen that covered the sunroof when closed. Even with the mesh and the tinted glass I still found myself wanting a form of a blackout cover. I can t help but think that the MY would also leave me feeling this way at one point or another. I d love to hear back Fr on anyone with opinions on this. Space- This was my favorite aspect of the vehicle. Sitting upright comfortable and having tons of cargo room was truly incredible. I also laid down in the back with my GF and I can confidently say that we could sleep in this vehicle if we were to take it camping (I m 6 4”). Suspension- Many reported a harsh ride in their MY. I didn t find this to be the case at all. The car rod smooth lacked major wind noise (single pane glass on this test drive vehicle) and was overall very pleasant to ride in. Acceleration- Many people overhyped this for me. Although the SR MY is “slow” for a Tesla at 0-60 in 5.4 seconds many told me that the instant torque of an EV would surprise me and be very addicting. This was not the case at all. Enough so that I asked the sales associate to come out to the vehicle after my drive to see if the car was on valet mode or something similar. It was truly sluggish and not in any way impressive to me. Context: I currently drive a 2019 VW Golf R with minor modifications that have my 0-60 at ~3.5 seconds. FSD- I had zero intentions of purchasing this package but knew I had to try it on my test drive. From lack of aggression to hugging the yellow line around turns I wasn t able to tolerate allowing the vehicle to drive for long. I didn t feel initial confidence in it and in very little time I confirmed the notion that I wouldn t want to pay for that feature. One question I do have to you all- is the audible tone announcing a green light available without self driving? I truly loved that feature. Overall if I had to rate the SR MY I d probably give it a 7.6 10. It s a fine car and may scratch the itch for those wanting a spacious EV for less than a MX but for me the hype was far too strong. I came in with high expectations expecting to leave the lot placing an order and saying goodbye to my beloved Golf R. But I can confidently say that I won t be purchasing a SR MY anytime soon if ever. I know I m disparaging this vehicle in a Tesla subreddit where the fans are passionate but I wanted to accept the downvotes that will follow in hopes of giving an unbiased opinion that differs from the majority that I ve came across. I ll gladly answer questions about my experience in the comments and would love to hear feedback from anyone who is willing to cultivate constructive conversation regarding this topic. For now happy Sunday and thank you for reading. EDIT: I made this post with one intention- To educate those who are potentially interested in the new SR MY more specifically individuals with no experience in the EV world like myself. I was hoping to learn more answer questions and cultivate good conversation on the topic and my specific situation. Prior to posting driving the car and even before researching a great friend of mine whom I respect a lot warned me that this sub was “a cult”. I didn t dismiss his opinion but I also didn t allow it to stop me from posting honestly. Unfortunately after reading the responses here many of these replies are very emotionally charged. I have been downvoted for stating facts such as “no it was not in any form of valet chill mode” confirmed by a Tesla employee. Downvoting factual responses devalues the voting system on Reddit and screams cult following with blinders due to a preconceived dedication to a company. This blind consumerism is something that I d urge you all to think critically about and attempt to avoid in the future if you truly love this company as it seems. The detrimental effects of this mindset drive lackluster development and competition allowing for companies to produce mediocre products and slows innovation. I truly do not see this happening with Tesla as they re extreme innovators and I admire the barriers they have broken. But this type of behavior can easily become the norm for many other facets of life interests and purchases. All of that said I m considering scheduling another test drive. One with a dual motor MY to see how “peppy” it feels and in hopes that the screen freezes were an anomaly. I ll likely report back with an update upon completion of this test drive but know it will be another brutally honest review. I expect the continued downvotes but thankfully these made up internet points mean nothing. Happy Super Bowl Sunday all. And please strive to remove emotion from your judgement when possible. | I ll try to address the points you mention based on 2 years driving a model 3. - unresponsive screen: never happened to me. - one pedal driving: you ll quickly get used to it and love it. - sunroof: ok for driver and passenger. I tinted the rear part for the kids (too young for sunglasses). - acceleration: why not go for the dual motor ? Not as expensive as the performance but closer to your R and big step up from the SR. (Front and rear motor are different types it makes quite a big difference to the way the car responds) - FSD: skip it for now. You can always add it later. I have FSD and love it as I drive a long commute on the freeway. I don t know if you get the green light tone without FSD. | Out of curiosity why did you not try the model 3? Coming from a golf r this would be a better comparison | 39 | 5 | 8,049 |
lenly5 | 33 | Charging estimates completely wrong I ve noticed that the charging estimates for my Model S are completely wrong. Yesterday I began supercharging at 64%. It estimated 45 minutes to full. 45 minutes later it was 84% and estimated 30 minutes to full. Is this an issue with my car charging slower than expected or are estimates always way off? | Did you have a destination set in your navigation? If so when you first plug in the estimate the car gives is the time to continue on your trip (this is based on what the car thinks you need to get to the next stop not the charge level). Once that value is reached the estimate switches to the time to reach the charge limit. Estimates can also be off if the battery is too cold (car may underestimate time it takes to heat the battery) if the temperature outside is too hot and or someone just charged on that plug (car doesn t take into account thermal throttling on the supercharger side). | 150kw or 250kw supercharger? Stall next to yours in use? Btw why charge to 100% ? And why from 64%? Long trip and unable to reach the next sc ? Edit: temperature? Battery cold? Or had you driven some distance before charging ? Was the supercharger selected as target in the nav when you drove there ? | 36 | 10 | 8,050 |
lenrht | 45 | 2021 M3LR - Heat pump stopped working?? So my drive into work this morning the car read a balmy -32c (-25.5f). This is my first time driving in true Canadian winter Temps and I was excited to see what the experience was like!! Everything seemed fine at first I had pre-warmed my car while it was plugged in inside my garage (best thing about EV ownership!) and headed to work. Cabin was nice and toasty regenerative breaking was working well for the first 15km of my trip. Then all of a sudden it seemed like the heat pump gave up?? My window started to fog and the cabin was no longer warm. I turned everything on to maximum and told the car to recycle the air inside the car rather than bringing in fresh air however the car never warned up again!! Luckily I was wearing a winter coat and the heated seats worked fine but that was not a pleasant experience at all. Any ideas? I m going to a service visit on February 10th so if I can bring this up while I m there it ll save a trip. | Theres a huge thread about this issue on a Norwegian EV owner forum. Basicly the heat pump gives up fix is to leave the car and stay away for 5 minutes then come back and it works again for a while. A lot of cars in Norway have been in to Tesla service to change some sensors that Tesla said would fix the issue but owners have reported that the issue persists after changing sensors. | Contact Tesla customer service. | 60 | 11 | 8,051 |
lenrht | 45 | 2021 M3LR - Heat pump stopped working?? So my drive into work this morning the car read a balmy -32c (-25.5f). This is my first time driving in true Canadian winter Temps and I was excited to see what the experience was like!! Everything seemed fine at first I had pre-warmed my car while it was plugged in inside my garage (best thing about EV ownership!) and headed to work. Cabin was nice and toasty regenerative breaking was working well for the first 15km of my trip. Then all of a sudden it seemed like the heat pump gave up?? My window started to fog and the cabin was no longer warm. I turned everything on to maximum and told the car to recycle the air inside the car rather than bringing in fresh air however the car never warned up again!! Luckily I was wearing a winter coat and the heated seats worked fine but that was not a pleasant experience at all. Any ideas? I m going to a service visit on February 10th so if I can bring this up while I m there it ll save a trip. | Theres a huge thread about this issue on a Norwegian EV owner forum. Basicly the heat pump gives up fix is to leave the car and stay away for 5 minutes then come back and it works again for a while. A lot of cars in Norway have been in to Tesla service to change some sensors that Tesla said would fix the issue but owners have reported that the issue persists after changing sensors. | Have them run a diagnostic on it remotely. My Model Y did the same thing they could see that a sensor had failed remotely and it took a little over a week to arrive. One time a screen reboot got the heat working again but that hasn t worked since. Car goes in Tuesday for repair finally. The heat seems to work most of the time but wasn t working last night on a 20 min drive in -10F. | 60 | 20 | 8,052 |
lenrht | 45 | 2021 M3LR - Heat pump stopped working?? So my drive into work this morning the car read a balmy -32c (-25.5f). This is my first time driving in true Canadian winter Temps and I was excited to see what the experience was like!! Everything seemed fine at first I had pre-warmed my car while it was plugged in inside my garage (best thing about EV ownership!) and headed to work. Cabin was nice and toasty regenerative breaking was working well for the first 15km of my trip. Then all of a sudden it seemed like the heat pump gave up?? My window started to fog and the cabin was no longer warm. I turned everything on to maximum and told the car to recycle the air inside the car rather than bringing in fresh air however the car never warned up again!! Luckily I was wearing a winter coat and the heated seats worked fine but that was not a pleasant experience at all. Any ideas? I m going to a service visit on February 10th so if I can bring this up while I m there it ll save a trip. | Alot of people in canada having this problem with LR 2021 including myself. Cabin gets toasty but at some point it gets cold and manual fan blows cold air. I even had some sensor replaced and the problem didn t change. I got this message from a tech after telling him nothing changed. Sorry for the delay I have periodically checked the alerts on your car over the last couple of days and today something finally popped up. There is an alert for the ambient temp sensor not reading now so the car is having troubles knowing how much heat to produce as it doesn t know what the outside temperature actually is. I have the part on order for you and created a new service visit Let s hope this fixes it. I would bring this up with your tech. | Seems like this is happening for all heat pump cars at the moment ... something about this super cold weather right now? | 34 | 6 | 8,053 |
lf4r9w | 39 | No shifter stalk? Here is an even better idea! Hey Elon here is a better idea than the car guessing what drive mode to be in. The right scroll wheel is pointless at low speeds. There is no point in using it to select autopilot speed at speeds below 5mph. When the car drops below 5mph a drive mode selection menu comes up. Push the right scroll wheel for park. Up for drive. Down for reverse. Above 5mph it can be used to select autopilot speed. Anyone see anything wrong with that? | OR JUST KEEP THE GODDAMN STALKS FOR CHRISTS SAKE WHY ARE WE ALL ACTING LIKE THIS ISN T INSANE Phew. Sorry. I guess when you re as smart as Tesla the only one left to outsmart is yourself. Edit: Yes I m whining. I agree I should wait and see. My money s still on this being a bad idea (Tesla is a company of people not flawless oracles) but I should give it a chance before going on all-caps tirades. | Was thinking the same thing. When at 0 mph the right wheel is perfect for gear select. | 200 | 24 | 8,054 |
lfb9op | 6,237 | Tesla invests $1.5 billion in Bitcoin will support BTC payments soon See: https: www.sec.gov ix?doc= Archives edgar data 1318605 000156459021004599 tsla-10k_20201231.htm Relevant text: In January 2021 we updated our investment policy to provide us with more flexibility to further diversify and maximize returns on our cash that is not required to maintain adequate operating liquidity. As part of the policy which was duly approved by the Audit Committee of our Board of Directors we may invest a portion of such cash in certain alternative reserve assets including digital assets gold bullion gold exchange-traded funds and other assets as specified in the future. Thereafter we invested an aggregate $1.50 billion in bitcoin under this policy and may acquire and hold digital assets from time to time or long-term. Moreover we expect to begin accepting bitcoin as a form of payment for our products in the near future subject to applicable laws and initially on a limited basis which we may or may not liquidate upon receipt. | The BTC-> USD price has jumped up 10% in 20 minutes after this news was released. | Poor Doge | 924 | 110 | 8,055 |
lfb9op | 6,237 | Tesla invests $1.5 billion in Bitcoin will support BTC payments soon See: https: www.sec.gov ix?doc= Archives edgar data 1318605 000156459021004599 tsla-10k_20201231.htm Relevant text: In January 2021 we updated our investment policy to provide us with more flexibility to further diversify and maximize returns on our cash that is not required to maintain adequate operating liquidity. As part of the policy which was duly approved by the Audit Committee of our Board of Directors we may invest a portion of such cash in certain alternative reserve assets including digital assets gold bullion gold exchange-traded funds and other assets as specified in the future. Thereafter we invested an aggregate $1.50 billion in bitcoin under this policy and may acquire and hold digital assets from time to time or long-term. Moreover we expect to begin accepting bitcoin as a form of payment for our products in the near future subject to applicable laws and initially on a limited basis which we may or may not liquidate upon receipt. | Would love for Tesla to explain how they can support such an energy intensive “alternate” form of currency. [Bitcoin s energy consumption equals that of Switzerland ](https: www.bbc.com news technology-48853230) | This better mean that Tesla s hooked to the mains will be mining BTC for the owners then after charging! (Depending on current electricity price.) | 302 | 3 | 8,056 |
lfb9op | 6,237 | Tesla invests $1.5 billion in Bitcoin will support BTC payments soon See: https: www.sec.gov ix?doc= Archives edgar data 1318605 000156459021004599 tsla-10k_20201231.htm Relevant text: In January 2021 we updated our investment policy to provide us with more flexibility to further diversify and maximize returns on our cash that is not required to maintain adequate operating liquidity. As part of the policy which was duly approved by the Audit Committee of our Board of Directors we may invest a portion of such cash in certain alternative reserve assets including digital assets gold bullion gold exchange-traded funds and other assets as specified in the future. Thereafter we invested an aggregate $1.50 billion in bitcoin under this policy and may acquire and hold digital assets from time to time or long-term. Moreover we expect to begin accepting bitcoin as a form of payment for our products in the near future subject to applicable laws and initially on a limited basis which we may or may not liquidate upon receipt. | Would love for Tesla to explain how they can support such an energy intensive “alternate” form of currency. [Bitcoin s energy consumption equals that of Switzerland ](https: www.bbc.com news technology-48853230) | Good move. Tons of BTC money out there for Tesla goods and diversification. | 302 | 9 | 8,057 |
lg3vvu | 26 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | View live sentry mode video through the app. | App feature management for non primary accounts. Ability for primary owner to turn off in app vehicle location for secondary accounts. Ability to limit the use of summon or other app features for secondary accounts. My wife and I don t share our location on our phones but she gets to see that I haven t actually left work yet via the app. With only one Tesla in the family this unwanted data sharing only goes one way. | 49 | 2 | 8,058 |
lg3vvu | 26 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | View live sentry mode video through the app. | Separate left right child locks Configurable sensitivity for mirror dimming Keep cabin preheat running for a few minutes while trunk is open | 49 | 10 | 8,059 |
lg3vvu | 26 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | Winter mode for AWD cars. | App feature management for non primary accounts. Ability for primary owner to turn off in app vehicle location for secondary accounts. Ability to limit the use of summon or other app features for secondary accounts. My wife and I don t share our location on our phones but she gets to see that I haven t actually left work yet via the app. With only one Tesla in the family this unwanted data sharing only goes one way. | 40 | 2 | 8,060 |
lgwppa | 31 | Is there going to be a hardware difference between the Model S Plaid vs Plaid Plus? On the Tesla site it notes that they are exactly the same in all specs except horsepower. The weights are the same suggesting they have the same hardware. Is the difference going to be in software? And if so will you be able to upgrade to the Plus later on when it releases? Edit: I m just seeing now that they removed the Plaid Plus specs from being able to be viewed on the Tesla site. Just yesterday you could compare the specs of all three Model S s but now only the LR and Plaid. | If I am guessing the biggest hardware change will be the battery cells in turn the powertrain I expect them to use the 4680s in the Plus which should explain the speed and range gain the might even increase the battery pack but that might slow down the car so idk about that one | We don t know the answers to any of these questions yet. Even if the motor hardware is the same there could be other performance enhancements like better suspension wheels aero or even weight reduction that they haven t yet nailed down so there aren t any specs. We ll just have to wait and see in this case. | 56 | 5 | 8,061 |
lgwppa | 31 | Is there going to be a hardware difference between the Model S Plaid vs Plaid Plus? On the Tesla site it notes that they are exactly the same in all specs except horsepower. The weights are the same suggesting they have the same hardware. Is the difference going to be in software? And if so will you be able to upgrade to the Plus later on when it releases? Edit: I m just seeing now that they removed the Plaid Plus specs from being able to be viewed on the Tesla site. Just yesterday you could compare the specs of all three Model S s but now only the LR and Plaid. | If I am guessing the biggest hardware change will be the battery cells in turn the powertrain I expect them to use the 4680s in the Plus which should explain the speed and range gain the might even increase the battery pack but that might slow down the car so idk about that one | Given the large difference in price I would guess there is a significant difference in hardware. | 56 | 6 | 8,062 |
lgzb4w | 57 | How much has FSD v11 been set back? Back in September Elon [on twitter](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1304802133355556864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1304802133355556864%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_& ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fteslanorth.com%2F2020%2F09%2F12%2Ftesla-autopilot-rewrite-private-beta-coming-musk%2F) predicted public beta in November and general release in December. Now that we are mid February without a public beta how badly has FSD been set back? Also we were supposed to get a Cybertruck design update in December. Is all this just Elon being overoptimistic? | V11 was never publicly mentioned by anybody at Tesla so we have no idea what the timeline is for that. As far as the FSD beta Elon said during the recent earnings call that it will be available at some point during 2021. FWIW it was also supposed to be out by the end of 2020 and 2019 so take that with a grain of salt. | Definitely points to the fact things aren t going to plan. As an FSD owner I m super keen to get the beta | 49 | 4 | 8,063 |
lgzb4w | 57 | How much has FSD v11 been set back? Back in September Elon [on twitter](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1304802133355556864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1304802133355556864%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_& ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fteslanorth.com%2F2020%2F09%2F12%2Ftesla-autopilot-rewrite-private-beta-coming-musk%2F) predicted public beta in November and general release in December. Now that we are mid February without a public beta how badly has FSD been set back? Also we were supposed to get a Cybertruck design update in December. Is all this just Elon being overoptimistic? | I m still waiting patiently for part 2 of the December holiday update with a hopeful smile on my face. | Definitely points to the fact things aren t going to plan. As an FSD owner I m super keen to get the beta | 42 | 4 | 8,064 |
lgzb4w | 57 | How much has FSD v11 been set back? Back in September Elon [on twitter](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1304802133355556864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1304802133355556864%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_& ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fteslanorth.com%2F2020%2F09%2F12%2Ftesla-autopilot-rewrite-private-beta-coming-musk%2F) predicted public beta in November and general release in December. Now that we are mid February without a public beta how badly has FSD been set back? Also we were supposed to get a Cybertruck design update in December. Is all this just Elon being overoptimistic? | Read this story and get back to us with your estimate. Sept 2015 My guess for when we will have full autonomy is approximately three years. Jan 2016 “Within two years you ll be able to summon your car from across the country.” FSD pre-sales began in 2016. Oct 19 2016 I feel pretty good about this goal. We ll be able to do a demonstration guide of full autonomy all the way from LA to New York. So basically from home in LA to Times Square in New York. And then have the car go and park itself by the end of next year. The full autonomy update will be standard on all Tesla vehicles from here on out . The hardware is fully capable of “Level 5 autonomy.” Jan 23 2017: Twitter. FSD features in 3 months maybe 6 months definitely April 2017 TED talk: November or December of this year we should be able to go from a parking lot in California to a parking lot in New York no controls touched at any point during the entire journey.” Sept 17 2018. Twitter. The cross-country FSD trip is coming with V10 (released in Sept 2019) Feb 20 2019 ARK Invest podcast: I think we will be feature complete full self-driving this year. Meaning the car will be able to find you in a parking lot pick you up and take you all the way to your destination without an intervention. This year. I would say I am of certain of that that is not a question mark. April 23 2019: One million robotaxis on the road within a year. May 9 2019 Twitter We could have gamed an LA NY Autopilot journey last year but when we do it this year everyone with Tesla Full Self-Driving will be able to do it too Aug 2019. Email from Tesla. FSD buyers will get early access. Oct 24 2019 earnings call While it s going to be tight it still does appear that we will be at least in limited early access release of a feature-complete Full Self-Driving feature this year. Oct 21 2020 earnings call We have hopefully a wide release by the end of this year. Dec 1st 2020 Axel Springer interview “I m extremely confident in achieving Full Self-Driving and releasing it to the fleet next year... and I think some jurisdictions will have Level 5 autonomy next year. There are no fundamental challenges remaining. Jan 27 2021 earning call. We re also going to be expanding the FSD beta itself to include more and more people. So from my standpoint it looks like a very clear and obvious path toward a vehicle that will drive 100% safer than a person. Yes. I really don t see any obstacles here. Q. Why are you confident Tesla will achieve Level 5 autonomy in 2021? I m confident based on my understanding of the technical roadmap and the progress that we re making between each beta iteration. | Definitely points to the fact things aren t going to plan. As an FSD owner I m super keen to get the beta | 41 | 4 | 8,065 |
lh59tw | 106 | You can log in to YouTube in Tesla Theater using Runescape.com (the runescape method ) - possibly temporary fix until that s patched too So a while back Google made a change that completely broke all workarounds (Plex and most other websites with a log in with Google button) for logging in to YouTube from the Tesla Theater. See here: [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments l9ahol google\\_broke\\_the\\_ability\\_to\\_login\\_to\\_youtube ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments l9ahol google_broke_the_ability_to_login_to_youtube ) \\- the fix is simple but Tesla has made virtually no indication that they understand the problem let alone working on a fix. It s now been reported that [a way to log into YouTube has been found](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 5325463 ) \\- by logging into Runescape in the browser using Google. Evidently that login method still has the not secure abilities enabled... that is to say Google isn t blocking embedded browsers like Tesla uses. So go to the browser in the car go to runescape.com go to full site then tap log in in the upper-right corner of the page. Tap the log in with Google button and then log in to your Google account. The action of logging-in to Google there is all you need to get into YouTube in the Theater browser (which is just a full-screen copy of the same web browser you re using for Runescape). You don t have to log in to Runescape or create an account with them - if you get a thing asking if you want to create a Runescape account just ignore it close the page and you re done. Hopefully Tesla does the simple tweak that s needed to make logging-in to YouTube directly work properly but at least for now you can enjoy YouTube Premium and your subscriptions in the car again during lunch breaks :) Likely this will only last a short time before Google patches this as well (or Runescape retires the reason they need not secure OAuth enabled) but at least until Tesla pays the slightest attention to the issue and fixes it. Hopefully they ll also fix [USB media album art](https: forums.tesla.com discussion 180770 usb-music-album-art-still-not-working) as well (I can dream right?). | RuneScape Authentication and not secure . Name a more iconic duo. | I was able to login directly from YouTube app. Something changed. I ve never been able to login previously. | 55 | 7 | 8,066 |
lh59tw | 106 | You can log in to YouTube in Tesla Theater using Runescape.com (the runescape method ) - possibly temporary fix until that s patched too So a while back Google made a change that completely broke all workarounds (Plex and most other websites with a log in with Google button) for logging in to YouTube from the Tesla Theater. See here: [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments l9ahol google\\_broke\\_the\\_ability\\_to\\_login\\_to\\_youtube ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments l9ahol google_broke_the_ability_to_login_to_youtube ) \\- the fix is simple but Tesla has made virtually no indication that they understand the problem let alone working on a fix. It s now been reported that [a way to log into YouTube has been found](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 5325463 ) \\- by logging into Runescape in the browser using Google. Evidently that login method still has the not secure abilities enabled... that is to say Google isn t blocking embedded browsers like Tesla uses. So go to the browser in the car go to runescape.com go to full site then tap log in in the upper-right corner of the page. Tap the log in with Google button and then log in to your Google account. The action of logging-in to Google there is all you need to get into YouTube in the Theater browser (which is just a full-screen copy of the same web browser you re using for Runescape). You don t have to log in to Runescape or create an account with them - if you get a thing asking if you want to create a Runescape account just ignore it close the page and you re done. Hopefully Tesla does the simple tweak that s needed to make logging-in to YouTube directly work properly but at least for now you can enjoy YouTube Premium and your subscriptions in the car again during lunch breaks :) Likely this will only last a short time before Google patches this as well (or Runescape retires the reason they need not secure OAuth enabled) but at least until Tesla pays the slightest attention to the issue and fixes it. Hopefully they ll also fix [USB media album art](https: forums.tesla.com discussion 180770 usb-music-album-art-still-not-working) as well (I can dream right?). | RuneScape Authentication and not secure . Name a more iconic duo. | I like how I posted on Reddit about this then TMC posts about that post on Reddit then now we are posting back on this sub about the TMC post about my previous post lol. Wonder how long this cycle is gonna go Original post: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments lbcey5 _ | 55 | 28 | 8,067 |
lhrapq | 50 | Given Tesla s emphasis on tech is it better to lease a Tesla over purchasing outright? I ve been looking at the various models and generally (not exact but close) the lease price of a Tesla with an agreement for 15k miles year for 3 years is roughly half that of a cash purchase all upfront. This basically means that you could go through 6 years of leasing for the same cost of buying outright. But you have not vehicle trade in value following the 6 years. I would assume that the emphasis on tech would depreciate the value quicker but looking at some older models such as 2017 Model S they are currently selling for around $40-45k on the low end. Do older Tesla s really retain that sort of value? I m trying to decide whether or not it is better to lease and invest the money saved through the term of the lease and use it later when getting a new lease. I generally try to hold onto cars for around 5 years but I m trying to challenge whether that is a good strategy or not. | I did this calculation before buying. Teslas hold their value very well and the lease programs Tesla offers are terrible. You basically end up paying half the value of the car in 3 years even though it retains something like 62% of its value at that time. For this reason Tesla at least as of a year ago wouldn t allow post-lease purchases. They d rather you shell out 50% of the car and then they sell it and get another 12% in value. Not sure if this is still the case. I ended up buying and good thing I did because instead of driving 15k miles this year due to Covid I ve only driven about 6k. So that s value in my pocket as far as the car lasting for a decade. YMMV. Lol. | This is a good question and one I took some time with before I bought my car. Part of it depends on where in the cycle the vehicle is. Let s say you bought a 2020 Model S. That is about to depreciate a ton because the new 2021 is coming out. Almost nobody is going to want the 2020 over the 2021 to the value will tank. When the Model 3 came out the tech was just so much better than the S so used S started to cost a lot less. Doing the math on leasing though it is almost never better to lease a Tesla in the USA. You are not ever going to lose 50% of the value in 3 years with current models. As an example of most significant loss in value my performance 3 was I want to say about $70k new in 2018 before the prices came down to stable levels they are at today. They will not lower much beyond where they are now so my depreciation is a lot more. It is worth at least $45k on the used market now. | 64 | 14 | 8,068 |
lhx1ox | 289 | 2021 Model 3 heat pump can t handle the cold? Picked up my 2021 M3SR+ back in January. Here in Winnipeg we can get down to -30C no problem. A couple of weeks ago after preconditioning the car for 20 minutes I received a climate control error and it would only blow out cold air. Took it into the shop and they replaced the whole super manifold. Fast forward to today -32C out driving down the highway it starts blowing cold air out the windows frost up and for the rest of the drive I could not get the heat back on. Called the tech and they said there were no errors and that the cold may have overwhelmed the system. That tells me that the heat pump system can t handle cold weather. At this point it s a safety concern to me and Tesla should be doing a recall on the heat pump. I don t feel safe driving the car anymore if the heat will just give out after a while. TLDR 2021 M3 heat pump was replaced still can t put out enough heat while highway driving. Edit: Another -35C day. Preconditioned the car today for 30 minutes. While in the city or at a stop the heater was blasting out +50C air. Once I hit the highway at 110 km h it immediately dropped to 20-25C. After a 30 minutes drive on the highway the cabin temperature was around 12C. Ice started to build up on the driver side window. Turning on the windshield defrost to red didn t help. | Well known temp sensor issue. The only fix is to replace the same failing sensor until they change to a newer part. | Some sort of temperature sensor issue idk much about it lol other people pls elaborate | 200 | 3 | 8,069 |
lhx1ox | 289 | 2021 Model 3 heat pump can t handle the cold? Picked up my 2021 M3SR+ back in January. Here in Winnipeg we can get down to -30C no problem. A couple of weeks ago after preconditioning the car for 20 minutes I received a climate control error and it would only blow out cold air. Took it into the shop and they replaced the whole super manifold. Fast forward to today -32C out driving down the highway it starts blowing cold air out the windows frost up and for the rest of the drive I could not get the heat back on. Called the tech and they said there were no errors and that the cold may have overwhelmed the system. That tells me that the heat pump system can t handle cold weather. At this point it s a safety concern to me and Tesla should be doing a recall on the heat pump. I don t feel safe driving the car anymore if the heat will just give out after a while. TLDR 2021 M3 heat pump was replaced still can t put out enough heat while highway driving. Edit: Another -35C day. Preconditioned the car today for 30 minutes. While in the city or at a stop the heater was blasting out +50C air. Once I hit the highway at 110 km h it immediately dropped to 20-25C. After a 30 minutes drive on the highway the cabin temperature was around 12C. Ice started to build up on the driver side window. Turning on the windshield defrost to red didn t help. | from what i gathered in this thread and what I ve read about heat pumps in general is the main benefit to a heat pump over a resistive car heater is they are more efficient but the heat pump itself is alot more sensitive to cold since it works by pulling in heat from the outside air to heat the cabin if it gets too cold an unassisted heatpump will stop producing heat as it freezes over in sub zero temps. Seems the tesla heat pump unit is an assisted heat pump which means it has a smaller resistive heater or the like to keep the heatpump warm enough to work but the temp sensor to control the assist heater is a faulty part. | Some sort of temperature sensor issue idk much about it lol other people pls elaborate | 79 | 3 | 8,070 |
lhx1ox | 289 | 2021 Model 3 heat pump can t handle the cold? Picked up my 2021 M3SR+ back in January. Here in Winnipeg we can get down to -30C no problem. A couple of weeks ago after preconditioning the car for 20 minutes I received a climate control error and it would only blow out cold air. Took it into the shop and they replaced the whole super manifold. Fast forward to today -32C out driving down the highway it starts blowing cold air out the windows frost up and for the rest of the drive I could not get the heat back on. Called the tech and they said there were no errors and that the cold may have overwhelmed the system. That tells me that the heat pump system can t handle cold weather. At this point it s a safety concern to me and Tesla should be doing a recall on the heat pump. I don t feel safe driving the car anymore if the heat will just give out after a while. TLDR 2021 M3 heat pump was replaced still can t put out enough heat while highway driving. Edit: Another -35C day. Preconditioned the car today for 30 minutes. While in the city or at a stop the heater was blasting out +50C air. Once I hit the highway at 110 km h it immediately dropped to 20-25C. After a 30 minutes drive on the highway the cabin temperature was around 12C. Ice started to build up on the driver side window. Turning on the windshield defrost to red didn t help. | from what i gathered in this thread and what I ve read about heat pumps in general is the main benefit to a heat pump over a resistive car heater is they are more efficient but the heat pump itself is alot more sensitive to cold since it works by pulling in heat from the outside air to heat the cabin if it gets too cold an unassisted heatpump will stop producing heat as it freezes over in sub zero temps. Seems the tesla heat pump unit is an assisted heat pump which means it has a smaller resistive heater or the like to keep the heatpump warm enough to work but the temp sensor to control the assist heater is a faulty part. | My 2018 Model 3 with its 7 kW PTC heater also can t fully maintain the cabin temperature when outside it s currently hovering around -30°C. It still continues outputting heat though just not enough to maintain the requested temperature while going at highway speeds. | 79 | 14 | 8,071 |
liif68 | 763 | New Model Y now shipping with new Console and Headlights. This article makes me so very happy. I m now excited to take delivery of my storm trooper Model Y in March. Team Model Y. Who else is excited? https: www.teslaoracle.com 2021 02 12 tesla-starts-model-y-deliveries-with-the-new-center-console-and-xenon-headlights | Come on $7K Fed subsidy! | Awesome. Ordered my Y 1 week ago. Hopefully mine falls under these changes! No VIN yet. | 227 | 3 | 8,072 |
liif68 | 763 | New Model Y now shipping with new Console and Headlights. This article makes me so very happy. I m now excited to take delivery of my storm trooper Model Y in March. Team Model Y. Who else is excited? https: www.teslaoracle.com 2021 02 12 tesla-starts-model-y-deliveries-with-the-new-center-console-and-xenon-headlights | Come on $7K Fed subsidy! | I think storm troopers would drive white wrapped cybertrucks | 227 | 5 | 8,073 |
liif68 | 763 | New Model Y now shipping with new Console and Headlights. This article makes me so very happy. I m now excited to take delivery of my storm trooper Model Y in March. Team Model Y. Who else is excited? https: www.teslaoracle.com 2021 02 12 tesla-starts-model-y-deliveries-with-the-new-center-console-and-xenon-headlights | Come on $7K Fed subsidy! | Oh this is exciting hoping for bioweapon mode but that might be too much of a stretch | 227 | 6 | 8,074 |
ljdvhz | 123 | Tesla Buena Park will not honor FSD price from my Model Y reservation I ve had a Model Y LR RWD reservation since November 2019 at the $7k FSD price. They recently have just removed the LR RWD option from the website. I ve read that some people here have gotten their reservations changed to either AWD or SR RWD and had the FSD price on their original order transferred over. I just called and apparently the Tesla location that I m assigned to said that they won t do it and will just charge me the full current price. To me this seems unfair given that they ve had my deposit all this time and essentially I have nothing to show for it since it would essentially be the same as if I just placed a brand new order. Can I change a location or rep or something. What was the point of giving Tesla a deposit if they won t honor any part of it. | Ok. Ask to speak with the manager. Tell them that you would like to see if they can send Tesla corporate a request to honor the FSD price if you switch configuration to AWD or SR. Corporate will approve it that same day. They did in my case | Agreed that this is bull shit. Your price should be locked-in once you order unless you choose to defer your delivery ever. | 132 | 6 | 8,075 |
ljdvhz | 123 | Tesla Buena Park will not honor FSD price from my Model Y reservation I ve had a Model Y LR RWD reservation since November 2019 at the $7k FSD price. They recently have just removed the LR RWD option from the website. I ve read that some people here have gotten their reservations changed to either AWD or SR RWD and had the FSD price on their original order transferred over. I just called and apparently the Tesla location that I m assigned to said that they won t do it and will just charge me the full current price. To me this seems unfair given that they ve had my deposit all this time and essentially I have nothing to show for it since it would essentially be the same as if I just placed a brand new order. Can I change a location or rep or something. What was the point of giving Tesla a deposit if they won t honor any part of it. | Ok. Ask to speak with the manager. Tell them that you would like to see if they can send Tesla corporate a request to honor the FSD price if you switch configuration to AWD or SR. Corporate will approve it that same day. They did in my case | I would definitely ask to speak to someone else. Most of the Tesla reps are idiots. | 132 | 22 | 8,076 |
ljdvhz | 123 | Tesla Buena Park will not honor FSD price from my Model Y reservation I ve had a Model Y LR RWD reservation since November 2019 at the $7k FSD price. They recently have just removed the LR RWD option from the website. I ve read that some people here have gotten their reservations changed to either AWD or SR RWD and had the FSD price on their original order transferred over. I just called and apparently the Tesla location that I m assigned to said that they won t do it and will just charge me the full current price. To me this seems unfair given that they ve had my deposit all this time and essentially I have nothing to show for it since it would essentially be the same as if I just placed a brand new order. Can I change a location or rep or something. What was the point of giving Tesla a deposit if they won t honor any part of it. | Ok. Ask to speak with the manager. Tell them that you would like to see if they can send Tesla corporate a request to honor the FSD price if you switch configuration to AWD or SR. Corporate will approve it that same day. They did in my case | That s bull. They need to honor that. I m really starting to get tired of crap like this. | 132 | 57 | 8,077 |
ljfh4i | 177 | Police department of SE Ohio city of 7K to patrol with Model Ys [https: www.logandaily.com news city-council-logan-pd-to-receive-teslas-new-cruisers article\\_478f9aac-cc53-5d32-a077-b48108c091c0.html](https: www.logandaily.com news city-council-logan-pd-to-receive-teslas-new-cruisers article_478f9aac-cc53-5d32-a077-b48108c091c0.html) | Just imagine an entire fleet of cars that basically sit there idling all day long. The amount of gas they flush down the toilet is astronomical. What a great way to save some resources. | Can see it now...auto pilot mode while cops nap on patrol 😂 | 86 | 15 | 8,078 |
ljfh4i | 177 | Police department of SE Ohio city of 7K to patrol with Model Ys [https: www.logandaily.com news city-council-logan-pd-to-receive-teslas-new-cruisers article\\_478f9aac-cc53-5d32-a077-b48108c091c0.html](https: www.logandaily.com news city-council-logan-pd-to-receive-teslas-new-cruisers article_478f9aac-cc53-5d32-a077-b48108c091c0.html) | Just imagine an entire fleet of cars that basically sit there idling all day long. The amount of gas they flush down the toilet is astronomical. What a great way to save some resources. | Love the idea of police rolling up and cutting a fart via the boombox | 86 | 41 | 8,079 |
ljt23s | 137 | The machine that builds the machine is an underrated concept. It would be interesting to see the total labor hours required to produce various vehicles. Having spent a lot of time exposed to the construction industry and labor unions there will obviously be resistance to automation but the labor component of any product is significant. Reducing labor cost via Giga Press new wiring architecture the “tabless” 4860 cells etc and the concept that the best part is no part is all designed to reduce labor. The electric motor and drive train alone is a huge labor savings. Elon has locked in on mass production and there is zero doubt in my mind that he can foster the collective efforts to achieve a unique solution. The thought that others can simply copy it at scale makes sense on the surface but the reality that innovation such as these cannibalizes legacy structures and creates strong internal resistance. Tesla seems to embrace change. Elon encourages ideas how awesome would it be if you were a young employee and came up with something he liked enough to implement. People give him crap for being anti union but I truly believe Elon is pro people and pro happiness and he wants what s best for them. Sure he s a manic in-terms of work ethic but there was no other way. People study Toyota in business school soon Tesla will be the company that others try to mimic. The machine that builds the machine concept almost killed the company Fremont could have been a disaster adjustments were made knowledge was created and Elon fixed it. | Pressing enter twice after a dot on mobile to make long text readable is also very underrated. | Well it s the combination of things. Pushing the constraints towards the limit is one thing like pushing for automation to get rid of cost constraints. Building the necessary equipment and tooling to do so all in-house is another. A third is the consideration of development and manufacturing as one value stream. That is: do design-to-manifacture-to-automation-back-to-design-to-material-sciences... Back and forth. Deisgn the car to automate production use materials and tooling that make this easier and invent all of it in house in necessary. Can t be copied. With every communication interface between entities involved into design and production the innovation potential increases and the actual innovation output decreases. Basically conways law. | 81 | 4 | 8,080 |
ljt23s | 137 | The machine that builds the machine is an underrated concept. It would be interesting to see the total labor hours required to produce various vehicles. Having spent a lot of time exposed to the construction industry and labor unions there will obviously be resistance to automation but the labor component of any product is significant. Reducing labor cost via Giga Press new wiring architecture the “tabless” 4860 cells etc and the concept that the best part is no part is all designed to reduce labor. The electric motor and drive train alone is a huge labor savings. Elon has locked in on mass production and there is zero doubt in my mind that he can foster the collective efforts to achieve a unique solution. The thought that others can simply copy it at scale makes sense on the surface but the reality that innovation such as these cannibalizes legacy structures and creates strong internal resistance. Tesla seems to embrace change. Elon encourages ideas how awesome would it be if you were a young employee and came up with something he liked enough to implement. People give him crap for being anti union but I truly believe Elon is pro people and pro happiness and he wants what s best for them. Sure he s a manic in-terms of work ethic but there was no other way. People study Toyota in business school soon Tesla will be the company that others try to mimic. The machine that builds the machine concept almost killed the company Fremont could have been a disaster adjustments were made knowledge was created and Elon fixed it. | Pressing enter twice after a dot on mobile to make long text readable is also very underrated. | They currently have about 20% gross margin in their automotive division. That s before they have the mega castings in the model 3 or the front castings in any vehicle. Also before the 4680 cells and structural battery pack or rigid wiring. Other manufacturers will copy some of their ideas but I have serious doubts they have the nerve to do much of it or very quickly and as Elon said in his Sandy Munro interview not a lot of it is catalogue engineering so some of it is going to take a fair while to copy if they can do so at all. It s becoming clearer by the day how much of a lead they have I just can t see the others catching up. I give it less than 10 years before they re outproducing any other car company. | 81 | 11 | 8,081 |
ljt23s | 137 | The machine that builds the machine is an underrated concept. It would be interesting to see the total labor hours required to produce various vehicles. Having spent a lot of time exposed to the construction industry and labor unions there will obviously be resistance to automation but the labor component of any product is significant. Reducing labor cost via Giga Press new wiring architecture the “tabless” 4860 cells etc and the concept that the best part is no part is all designed to reduce labor. The electric motor and drive train alone is a huge labor savings. Elon has locked in on mass production and there is zero doubt in my mind that he can foster the collective efforts to achieve a unique solution. The thought that others can simply copy it at scale makes sense on the surface but the reality that innovation such as these cannibalizes legacy structures and creates strong internal resistance. Tesla seems to embrace change. Elon encourages ideas how awesome would it be if you were a young employee and came up with something he liked enough to implement. People give him crap for being anti union but I truly believe Elon is pro people and pro happiness and he wants what s best for them. Sure he s a manic in-terms of work ethic but there was no other way. People study Toyota in business school soon Tesla will be the company that others try to mimic. The machine that builds the machine concept almost killed the company Fremont could have been a disaster adjustments were made knowledge was created and Elon fixed it. | Pressing enter twice after a dot on mobile to make long text readable is also very underrated. | If they can pull it off the next gen of factories with cast frames and structural battery packs may be a big tipping point to Tesla. That said they also have a pattern of talking about the machine that builds the machine and then delivering poor quality cars to customers. A bit of investment in quality control along the line would have bought them a lot of goodwill even if it doesn t fit in with Elon s Master Plan. Also be careful idolizing one man. Elon is a businessman. He will tell his workers to come in and work during COVID restrictions he will deliver poor quality cars he will delay recalls until the last moment. All of those are of course normal and expected for a big company trying to survive and profit. I like my car I think Tesla and SpaceX do cool things but don t turn a CEO into a messiah. | 81 | 38 | 8,082 |
ljuf18 | 356 | Please welcome our newest member of the r TeslaMotors Mod team u SatinGreyTesla! After receiving nearly 100 submissions our voting was pretty uninanamous as we have seen his awesome contributions in the daily threads. Please introduce yourself u SatinGreyTesla! We hope you re ready for 1 million plus subscribers! | Congrats. If anything you ve earned it with the work you put in. We ve had differences of opinion but your contribution to the daily threads in hard to deny. | 👏 | 41 | 2 | 8,083 |
ljuf18 | 356 | Please welcome our newest member of the r TeslaMotors Mod team u SatinGreyTesla! After receiving nearly 100 submissions our voting was pretty uninanamous as we have seen his awesome contributions in the daily threads. Please introduce yourself u SatinGreyTesla! We hope you re ready for 1 million plus subscribers! | Congrats. If anything you ve earned it with the work you put in. We ve had differences of opinion but your contribution to the daily threads in hard to deny. | Congratulations! | 41 | 4 | 8,084 |
ljuf18 | 356 | Please welcome our newest member of the r TeslaMotors Mod team u SatinGreyTesla! After receiving nearly 100 submissions our voting was pretty uninanamous as we have seen his awesome contributions in the daily threads. Please introduce yourself u SatinGreyTesla! We hope you re ready for 1 million plus subscribers! | Congrats. If anything you ve earned it with the work you put in. We ve had differences of opinion but your contribution to the daily threads in hard to deny. | Congrats! | 41 | 5 | 8,085 |
lkoz4z | 31 | Tesla has a Supercharger problem When I get bored I go charge at the supercharger. The one near me currently has 3 stalls out of order and people try to constantly pull into them and don t know what to do when it doesn t work. I constantly have to get out and tell people which ones work. There has to be a better way. I m thinking maybe somehow a warning could pop up if you pull in using weak Bluetooth signals. | > When I get bored I go charge at the supercharger. ?????? | They just started taping up the ones that are out of order near me. 3 out 12 here not working in Raleigh. | 153 | 8 | 8,086 |
lkoz4z | 31 | Tesla has a Supercharger problem When I get bored I go charge at the supercharger. The one near me currently has 3 stalls out of order and people try to constantly pull into them and don t know what to do when it doesn t work. I constantly have to get out and tell people which ones work. There has to be a better way. I m thinking maybe somehow a warning could pop up if you pull in using weak Bluetooth signals. | > When I get bored I go charge at the supercharger. ?????? | The rule of thumb I ve generally seen is to leave the supercharger unhooked or hanging over the top of the stall it out of order. But I agree with you nonetheless! | 153 | 9 | 8,087 |
lkt9bi | 54 | Bad job on the new UI Sometime ago someone had mentioned that they didn t understand why people were hating on the new M3 Y UI. When my car updated I thought it looked quite good!... until I used it more and more. Suddenly it felt off? Now I am no graphic designer. In fact I know nothing about it. But I do know reading the discussions back then that there are certain ratios and elements and aesthetic rules as to where you place icons on a screen. I had seen two renditions of what this meant but I can t find them so I won t link them. When you see the hidden lines you have a sort of intuition of oh I ve always had an inkling of those partitions but its strange to see them for real. its like seeing the margins of a word document. So I decided in my COVID free time to try it out myself. It was pretty fun! Here is my rendition of the old UI:https: imgur.com a Xxm9Kfb And the new one: https: imgur.com a DX2qwvZ The **first** thing I noticed is the seeming sparseness of the new UI which meant I had less things to find rations relations with. Whether or not you think this is good or bad I don t know but if I was actually driving more things would appear on screen so I could ve potentially had more to work with. **Second** everything that has a pair or triplet in the same color is the same length besides the red. In the old UI you can see how structured different parts of the screen are. Whereas in the old one things tend to feel a little off. I also would like to put some blame on the fact that I couldn t figure out unable to take a screenshot so my camera warped it some. There is also the box in the middle which I have put as reference. There are equal size boxes within the interlacing other ratios which I found interesting. **Thirdly** is this idea of empty space. I like empty space. There s a reason some homes have massive ceilings or the long corridors of mansions or even an open uninterrupted backyard. Somehow though these proponents of the new UI seem to think that the old UI did not have any empty space and that people are ignorant for not liking it now? Well it is very clear that in the old UI as in the new one there is a ton of unused space in the middle where the car is seen driving. I would wager to say that the old UI had a good amount of empty space and that the new one has too much. People say it s for FSD but not everyone has it and not everyone uses it all the time and as I write this I wonder... when the car is actually able to drive itself competently and legally who is going to just stare at the rendition on the screen? Why not look up and actually see a real time better version of what is going on down there? It is more safe and if the screen is going to be used it will probably be used for watching videos or whatnot. Of course you can all judge for yourself but here is my theory: there are so many more ratios going on in the old UI and some may see that as overcomplicated but I see it as a work of art. The mixing and complying with set rules makes for some very tidy UI and I don t think the new one was done properly. Of course some actual designer may come in here and tell me I m wrong or how to improve on those that I made and I welcome it! | The UI is embarrassingly bad. Going on 3 months soon... what the heck? Revert back to old one at least. The holiday update for 2020 was a huge disappointment. They should stop trying to roll out so many half baked features and focus on the essentials FSD autopilot improvements and Ui. | My two cents is that we re just seeing incremental changes to hold over until the next full version hits the production environment. Elon said they were in need of a UI overhaul and I d be surprised (disappointed) if these recent changes qualify as an overhaul in his mind. https: mobile.twitter.com elonmusk status 1344013374879911939 | 65 | 21 | 8,088 |
ll4ffe | 12,898 | My Tesla kept my family from freezing last night. We are experiencing an historic winter storm here in Texas. The power grid is not able to handle this type of demand and allot of neighborhoods are experiencing power outages for hours at a time when the temperature outside is in the single digits. We had the power go out for 6 hours last night. Our house does not have gas and we ran out of firewood... what are we going to do. If only we had some sort of sleeping pod with a 75kw battery that can keep us warm through the night. Oh wait we do. So my wife my dog and my newborn daughter slept in the garage in our Model3 all nice and cozy. If I didn t have this car it would have been a very rough night. Thanks for all the real support guys. And to the helpful use a blanket advice... you can t just wrap an infant in a bunch of blankets and go to sleep. | Watch out for CO poisoning..oh wait | Don t leave your Tesla running in the garage!!! What about the carbon monoxide poisoning!!!! Ack!!!!! Red alert!!!!!!! | 1,220 | 4 | 8,089 |
ll4ffe | 12,898 | My Tesla kept my family from freezing last night. We are experiencing an historic winter storm here in Texas. The power grid is not able to handle this type of demand and allot of neighborhoods are experiencing power outages for hours at a time when the temperature outside is in the single digits. We had the power go out for 6 hours last night. Our house does not have gas and we ran out of firewood... what are we going to do. If only we had some sort of sleeping pod with a 75kw battery that can keep us warm through the night. Oh wait we do. So my wife my dog and my newborn daughter slept in the garage in our Model3 all nice and cozy. If I didn t have this car it would have been a very rough night. Thanks for all the real support guys. And to the helpful use a blanket advice... you can t just wrap an infant in a bunch of blankets and go to sleep. | Watch out for CO poisoning..oh wait | Glad the Tesla was able to help you and your family in the terrible situation. Hopefully the weather will improve for you. | 1,220 | 5 | 8,090 |
ll4ffe | 12,898 | My Tesla kept my family from freezing last night. We are experiencing an historic winter storm here in Texas. The power grid is not able to handle this type of demand and allot of neighborhoods are experiencing power outages for hours at a time when the temperature outside is in the single digits. We had the power go out for 6 hours last night. Our house does not have gas and we ran out of firewood... what are we going to do. If only we had some sort of sleeping pod with a 75kw battery that can keep us warm through the night. Oh wait we do. So my wife my dog and my newborn daughter slept in the garage in our Model3 all nice and cozy. If I didn t have this car it would have been a very rough night. Thanks for all the real support guys. And to the helpful use a blanket advice... you can t just wrap an infant in a bunch of blankets and go to sleep. | Watch out for CO poisoning..oh wait | Crazy what s happening in Texas. How often does it actually snow there? | 1,220 | 5 | 8,091 |
ller84 | 90 | Charging for free in Texas. Charging free in Texas currently. If you can find a powered supercharger. You re doing well today. I charged Sunday started at one today and it lost power after I added 8kWh. I found another and I am currently charging. I ve not yet been billed for Sunday or earlier today. My current session is $0.00. Is Tesla doing a “State of Emergency” good will thing. Edit. Typo | I was [reading Texas wholesale prices per GWH went from ~$25 to over ~$9 000](https: www.compsmag.com news business-news tesla-charging-costs-have-increased-as-the-texas-electricity-auction-system-fuels-the-price-hike ) at some point meaning a charge that normally cost ~$18 was more like ~$900. Edit: If you think this is some Fox news anti BEV conspiracy [maybe a $10k bill for a house is another way of looking at it from NBC News](https: www.nbcnews.com business business-news deep-freeze-subsides-texans-now-face-electricity-bills-10-000-n1258362). I don t see why anyone would need to charge during an emergency they they fully charged before an emergency so felt like it put it into quantity I could understand for others a house bill for ~3 days may help (though houses are different at different inside temps so idk how many kWh they got for $10k). | 8kW nope. 8kWh I hope. | 34 | 7 | 8,092 |
llhpzm | 215 | The Journey of My Totaled Tesla Model 3 This is going to be a bit of a long one but please bear with me. I had a 2019 Metallic Blue Long-Range AWD Tesla Model 3 with the upgraded 19 Sports Wheels and FSD. I bought this car in June 2019 so FSD was only $6k back then and I paid $59 600 total for everything including the destination fee (from a no sales tax state). In December 2020 I was hit by an oncoming Jeep on a stretch where the speed limit was 40 MPH barely into my trip on my way to work. I did not have Autopilot engaged and I wonder every day if that would ve saved me this whole ordeal. At first I didn t know who was responsible since it happened so quickly and I was shaken up. Some kind person stopped shortly after the accident happened and called 911 while making sure everyone was okay. In the meantime I stayed inside my Tesla the entire time since I was in shock and panicking I didn t end up speaking to the other drivers involved at all. Police showed up fairly quickly and checked in with all of us they took my information and gave me the other drivers . At the time I declined going to the hospital since I was concerned about outrageous medical bills and still did not know who was at fault. Besides me the girl who hit me also managed to hit the car behind me. [Pictures of totaled Tesla](https: imgur.com a 4Xh7biX) I get home and review the Tesla Cam footage. Since the airbags when off it trigged the recording thankfully. The Jeep was significantly over the yellow line and proceeds to hit me and I was also able to see a little of the crash behind me despite the camera being dirty -- let this serve as a reminder to always clean your rear camera. [Tesla Cam footage of accident (front and rear cameras)](https: imgur.com a DS478Db) When we got home my boyfriend pointed out to me that the driver who hit me was 16 years old and she had just barely gotten her license. My guess is she was distracted and it seems she had just left her house. I decided to file a claim with my insurance Liberty Mutual rather than her insurance which is Geico. I had Better Car Replacement coverage and basically this means they would pay the Actual Cash Value (ACV) of a car with the same specs as mine that is one year newer and 15 000 miles less -- since I only had 10k miles on the car this worked out for me. A catch that I later found out that caps at 20% more of what the ACV of your actual car is. Liberty Mutual reached out to me the next business day and asked me to give a recorded statement. I did this and sent them the footage they told me they would be pursuing subrogation against the at fault driver s insurance. They said they would send out a third party appraiser to check out the damage. Said appraiser made his way out there a few days later on the 18th after a huge snow storm hit. He submitted his appraisal the following Monday on 21st. The pictures he uploaded to my claim were covered in snow and you could hardly see the damage at all. He quoted $10k in repairs and it led me to believe that no one so far in this process knew anything about Teslas. Next I was asked where I wanted to bring my car to be fixed. At this point I believed that my car would be significantly more to fix and believed it to be totaled and I initially made an appointment with a Tesla Service Center in MA since I m in NH. They reached out to me and let me know that this would be beyond their scope and recommended Today s Collision in Malden. I called Today s on the 23rd and the guy who answered showed immediate sympathy for my car and for the first time since the accident I felt relieved that someone was being empathetic and concern for my car. They immediately said they would send out a tow truck to get my car (that s two hours away!) and I was incredibly impressed with their customer service. I sent them the pictures and after consulting with his manager he believed the car was indeed totaled but wanted to check out the damage in person. Car is brought down during Christmas and I have to wait another nerve-wracking few days. I hear back on the 28th and Liberty Mutual decides to send another third party appraiser to look at it. This also takes a while and after a lack of communication from the third party company and Liberty Mutual finally decides to send a staff appraiser. In the meantime I get in contact with Geico to file a claim with them. I have since gone to my PCP to get a check up since my back and neck are sore I have brain fog and I get incredibly anxious being driven around and even don t want to drive now. PCP gives me some painkillers and we decide physical therapy would be a good idea if I continue to have issues and mental health therapy might be a good idea as well. Geico says they can get me into a rental car they will cover the medical bills for physical therapy but they seemed hesitant about the mental health therapy. Still in the process of going to physical therapy now. It s not until 1 4 21 that I hear my car is finally deemed a total loss and I hear it from Today s Collision first. I thought this was pretty crazy that my insurance didn t tell me immediately but I was incredibly grateful to Today s and their dedication to the customer. I was asked some questions by the staff appraiser about the extra options I had on my car to determine the ACV. Since I was not at fault for this accident Liberty Mutual reimbursed my $500 deductible and the initial ACV determined was $43 237.50. I did not believe this included all of the options so I advocated for myself of the options I thought it was missing and they came back with $49 312 after a week or two. Overall this was pretty good except for the lack of FSD with is now valued at $10k. Ultimately it turns out Liberty Mutual values FSD at $5 600 due to state regulations and industry standards. Not too bad since I did originally pay $6k for it. With the Better Car Replacement the added cost was $3 300. This made my final settlement for just the car come out to be $52 642.50. I also asked if she could reimburse the winter tires that were on the car which added $811.75 and some accessories I had on the car such as the console and handle wraps as well as the screen protector that came out to be an additional $100 or so. This was all discussed on January 20th over a month after the accident. I owed $37 654.03 left on my loan so this was paid to my lien holder first. I was paid the remaining $15 478.50 plus the $500 deductible on the 25th. All in all I made out positively with almost $16k throughout this whole ordeal. I also just canceled my auto insurance policy and got a $1200 refund back as my policy was $1800 or so for the whole year and I had paid lump sum. I was told the lapse in auto insurance should be fine if I explain to Liberty Mutual that I canceled due to the car being a total loss and not replacing it immediately and should not hike my rates up but we ll see. I thought it would be worth sharing some of these numbers and my experience with my Tesla being totaled as I wasn t able to find a lot of stories in detail while researching on this sub and others. It s made me paranoid that someone is just going to hit me out of the blue again and I have a fair amount of back pain but it s really fueled my desire to get another Tesla thanks to how safe I felt and was following the accident. My girl did a wonderful job of protecting me -- RIP Sapphire. For now I m actually considering buying a house and using the money towards a downpayment first before getting into another Tesla (which might be a Model Y)! It s just a shame that FSD now costs $10k and can t be transferred. I miss my Tesla very much please give yours love from me. **TL DR: My Tesla Model 3 was totaled in an accident that I was deemed not at fault. The ACV of my 2019 Blue Model 3 LR AWD with 19 Sport Wheels and FSD with 10k miles was $49 312. With Liberty Mutual s Better Car Replacement coverage I was paid $53 632.53 (not including the amount I owed to my lien holder) after over a month of back and forth. Today s Collision in Malden MA is AMAZING and don t forget to clean your Tesla cameras! Also take care of yourselves if you get into an accident and get the proper physical and mental care. Drive safe and put all distractions away two seconds could mean someone s life.** | Sorry you had to deal with that. That jeep driver needs their license suspended after that. Geez Glad you are okay tho! Thanks for posting | Thanks for sharing your experience. I also have Liberty Bibberty with Better Car Replacement so it s interesting to hear how that worked out. Good luck on your physical and mental recovery. | 52 | 5 | 8,093 |
llhpzm | 215 | The Journey of My Totaled Tesla Model 3 This is going to be a bit of a long one but please bear with me. I had a 2019 Metallic Blue Long-Range AWD Tesla Model 3 with the upgraded 19 Sports Wheels and FSD. I bought this car in June 2019 so FSD was only $6k back then and I paid $59 600 total for everything including the destination fee (from a no sales tax state). In December 2020 I was hit by an oncoming Jeep on a stretch where the speed limit was 40 MPH barely into my trip on my way to work. I did not have Autopilot engaged and I wonder every day if that would ve saved me this whole ordeal. At first I didn t know who was responsible since it happened so quickly and I was shaken up. Some kind person stopped shortly after the accident happened and called 911 while making sure everyone was okay. In the meantime I stayed inside my Tesla the entire time since I was in shock and panicking I didn t end up speaking to the other drivers involved at all. Police showed up fairly quickly and checked in with all of us they took my information and gave me the other drivers . At the time I declined going to the hospital since I was concerned about outrageous medical bills and still did not know who was at fault. Besides me the girl who hit me also managed to hit the car behind me. [Pictures of totaled Tesla](https: imgur.com a 4Xh7biX) I get home and review the Tesla Cam footage. Since the airbags when off it trigged the recording thankfully. The Jeep was significantly over the yellow line and proceeds to hit me and I was also able to see a little of the crash behind me despite the camera being dirty -- let this serve as a reminder to always clean your rear camera. [Tesla Cam footage of accident (front and rear cameras)](https: imgur.com a DS478Db) When we got home my boyfriend pointed out to me that the driver who hit me was 16 years old and she had just barely gotten her license. My guess is she was distracted and it seems she had just left her house. I decided to file a claim with my insurance Liberty Mutual rather than her insurance which is Geico. I had Better Car Replacement coverage and basically this means they would pay the Actual Cash Value (ACV) of a car with the same specs as mine that is one year newer and 15 000 miles less -- since I only had 10k miles on the car this worked out for me. A catch that I later found out that caps at 20% more of what the ACV of your actual car is. Liberty Mutual reached out to me the next business day and asked me to give a recorded statement. I did this and sent them the footage they told me they would be pursuing subrogation against the at fault driver s insurance. They said they would send out a third party appraiser to check out the damage. Said appraiser made his way out there a few days later on the 18th after a huge snow storm hit. He submitted his appraisal the following Monday on 21st. The pictures he uploaded to my claim were covered in snow and you could hardly see the damage at all. He quoted $10k in repairs and it led me to believe that no one so far in this process knew anything about Teslas. Next I was asked where I wanted to bring my car to be fixed. At this point I believed that my car would be significantly more to fix and believed it to be totaled and I initially made an appointment with a Tesla Service Center in MA since I m in NH. They reached out to me and let me know that this would be beyond their scope and recommended Today s Collision in Malden. I called Today s on the 23rd and the guy who answered showed immediate sympathy for my car and for the first time since the accident I felt relieved that someone was being empathetic and concern for my car. They immediately said they would send out a tow truck to get my car (that s two hours away!) and I was incredibly impressed with their customer service. I sent them the pictures and after consulting with his manager he believed the car was indeed totaled but wanted to check out the damage in person. Car is brought down during Christmas and I have to wait another nerve-wracking few days. I hear back on the 28th and Liberty Mutual decides to send another third party appraiser to look at it. This also takes a while and after a lack of communication from the third party company and Liberty Mutual finally decides to send a staff appraiser. In the meantime I get in contact with Geico to file a claim with them. I have since gone to my PCP to get a check up since my back and neck are sore I have brain fog and I get incredibly anxious being driven around and even don t want to drive now. PCP gives me some painkillers and we decide physical therapy would be a good idea if I continue to have issues and mental health therapy might be a good idea as well. Geico says they can get me into a rental car they will cover the medical bills for physical therapy but they seemed hesitant about the mental health therapy. Still in the process of going to physical therapy now. It s not until 1 4 21 that I hear my car is finally deemed a total loss and I hear it from Today s Collision first. I thought this was pretty crazy that my insurance didn t tell me immediately but I was incredibly grateful to Today s and their dedication to the customer. I was asked some questions by the staff appraiser about the extra options I had on my car to determine the ACV. Since I was not at fault for this accident Liberty Mutual reimbursed my $500 deductible and the initial ACV determined was $43 237.50. I did not believe this included all of the options so I advocated for myself of the options I thought it was missing and they came back with $49 312 after a week or two. Overall this was pretty good except for the lack of FSD with is now valued at $10k. Ultimately it turns out Liberty Mutual values FSD at $5 600 due to state regulations and industry standards. Not too bad since I did originally pay $6k for it. With the Better Car Replacement the added cost was $3 300. This made my final settlement for just the car come out to be $52 642.50. I also asked if she could reimburse the winter tires that were on the car which added $811.75 and some accessories I had on the car such as the console and handle wraps as well as the screen protector that came out to be an additional $100 or so. This was all discussed on January 20th over a month after the accident. I owed $37 654.03 left on my loan so this was paid to my lien holder first. I was paid the remaining $15 478.50 plus the $500 deductible on the 25th. All in all I made out positively with almost $16k throughout this whole ordeal. I also just canceled my auto insurance policy and got a $1200 refund back as my policy was $1800 or so for the whole year and I had paid lump sum. I was told the lapse in auto insurance should be fine if I explain to Liberty Mutual that I canceled due to the car being a total loss and not replacing it immediately and should not hike my rates up but we ll see. I thought it would be worth sharing some of these numbers and my experience with my Tesla being totaled as I wasn t able to find a lot of stories in detail while researching on this sub and others. It s made me paranoid that someone is just going to hit me out of the blue again and I have a fair amount of back pain but it s really fueled my desire to get another Tesla thanks to how safe I felt and was following the accident. My girl did a wonderful job of protecting me -- RIP Sapphire. For now I m actually considering buying a house and using the money towards a downpayment first before getting into another Tesla (which might be a Model Y)! It s just a shame that FSD now costs $10k and can t be transferred. I miss my Tesla very much please give yours love from me. **TL DR: My Tesla Model 3 was totaled in an accident that I was deemed not at fault. The ACV of my 2019 Blue Model 3 LR AWD with 19 Sport Wheels and FSD with 10k miles was $49 312. With Liberty Mutual s Better Car Replacement coverage I was paid $53 632.53 (not including the amount I owed to my lien holder) after over a month of back and forth. Today s Collision in Malden MA is AMAZING and don t forget to clean your Tesla cameras! Also take care of yourselves if you get into an accident and get the proper physical and mental care. Drive safe and put all distractions away two seconds could mean someone s life.** | So something really similar happened to me. I was T-boned by a car blowing a red light going 50 miles an hour and their insurance was going to try to fix it even though it had a severely bent b-pillar. I let my insurance handle it and they were going to Total it and only offer me $45 000. Mind you this is a 2018 performance model 3 with 20 000 miles on it there early. I ended up having to exercise my appraisal Clause because I live in North Carolina. And that allowed me to reappraise with an independent and one of Geico s Independence and that saved me $8 000. As of right now I m still waiting on the check for the excess amount from Bank of America. Everything is sucked it took two months to get another model 3 but I got it the week of Christmas and I couldn t be happier now. No one was hurt and the cops loved the cam footage. | Thanks for sharing your experience. I also have Liberty Bibberty with Better Car Replacement so it s interesting to hear how that worked out. Good luck on your physical and mental recovery. | 44 | 5 | 8,094 |
llhpzm | 215 | The Journey of My Totaled Tesla Model 3 This is going to be a bit of a long one but please bear with me. I had a 2019 Metallic Blue Long-Range AWD Tesla Model 3 with the upgraded 19 Sports Wheels and FSD. I bought this car in June 2019 so FSD was only $6k back then and I paid $59 600 total for everything including the destination fee (from a no sales tax state). In December 2020 I was hit by an oncoming Jeep on a stretch where the speed limit was 40 MPH barely into my trip on my way to work. I did not have Autopilot engaged and I wonder every day if that would ve saved me this whole ordeal. At first I didn t know who was responsible since it happened so quickly and I was shaken up. Some kind person stopped shortly after the accident happened and called 911 while making sure everyone was okay. In the meantime I stayed inside my Tesla the entire time since I was in shock and panicking I didn t end up speaking to the other drivers involved at all. Police showed up fairly quickly and checked in with all of us they took my information and gave me the other drivers . At the time I declined going to the hospital since I was concerned about outrageous medical bills and still did not know who was at fault. Besides me the girl who hit me also managed to hit the car behind me. [Pictures of totaled Tesla](https: imgur.com a 4Xh7biX) I get home and review the Tesla Cam footage. Since the airbags when off it trigged the recording thankfully. The Jeep was significantly over the yellow line and proceeds to hit me and I was also able to see a little of the crash behind me despite the camera being dirty -- let this serve as a reminder to always clean your rear camera. [Tesla Cam footage of accident (front and rear cameras)](https: imgur.com a DS478Db) When we got home my boyfriend pointed out to me that the driver who hit me was 16 years old and she had just barely gotten her license. My guess is she was distracted and it seems she had just left her house. I decided to file a claim with my insurance Liberty Mutual rather than her insurance which is Geico. I had Better Car Replacement coverage and basically this means they would pay the Actual Cash Value (ACV) of a car with the same specs as mine that is one year newer and 15 000 miles less -- since I only had 10k miles on the car this worked out for me. A catch that I later found out that caps at 20% more of what the ACV of your actual car is. Liberty Mutual reached out to me the next business day and asked me to give a recorded statement. I did this and sent them the footage they told me they would be pursuing subrogation against the at fault driver s insurance. They said they would send out a third party appraiser to check out the damage. Said appraiser made his way out there a few days later on the 18th after a huge snow storm hit. He submitted his appraisal the following Monday on 21st. The pictures he uploaded to my claim were covered in snow and you could hardly see the damage at all. He quoted $10k in repairs and it led me to believe that no one so far in this process knew anything about Teslas. Next I was asked where I wanted to bring my car to be fixed. At this point I believed that my car would be significantly more to fix and believed it to be totaled and I initially made an appointment with a Tesla Service Center in MA since I m in NH. They reached out to me and let me know that this would be beyond their scope and recommended Today s Collision in Malden. I called Today s on the 23rd and the guy who answered showed immediate sympathy for my car and for the first time since the accident I felt relieved that someone was being empathetic and concern for my car. They immediately said they would send out a tow truck to get my car (that s two hours away!) and I was incredibly impressed with their customer service. I sent them the pictures and after consulting with his manager he believed the car was indeed totaled but wanted to check out the damage in person. Car is brought down during Christmas and I have to wait another nerve-wracking few days. I hear back on the 28th and Liberty Mutual decides to send another third party appraiser to look at it. This also takes a while and after a lack of communication from the third party company and Liberty Mutual finally decides to send a staff appraiser. In the meantime I get in contact with Geico to file a claim with them. I have since gone to my PCP to get a check up since my back and neck are sore I have brain fog and I get incredibly anxious being driven around and even don t want to drive now. PCP gives me some painkillers and we decide physical therapy would be a good idea if I continue to have issues and mental health therapy might be a good idea as well. Geico says they can get me into a rental car they will cover the medical bills for physical therapy but they seemed hesitant about the mental health therapy. Still in the process of going to physical therapy now. It s not until 1 4 21 that I hear my car is finally deemed a total loss and I hear it from Today s Collision first. I thought this was pretty crazy that my insurance didn t tell me immediately but I was incredibly grateful to Today s and their dedication to the customer. I was asked some questions by the staff appraiser about the extra options I had on my car to determine the ACV. Since I was not at fault for this accident Liberty Mutual reimbursed my $500 deductible and the initial ACV determined was $43 237.50. I did not believe this included all of the options so I advocated for myself of the options I thought it was missing and they came back with $49 312 after a week or two. Overall this was pretty good except for the lack of FSD with is now valued at $10k. Ultimately it turns out Liberty Mutual values FSD at $5 600 due to state regulations and industry standards. Not too bad since I did originally pay $6k for it. With the Better Car Replacement the added cost was $3 300. This made my final settlement for just the car come out to be $52 642.50. I also asked if she could reimburse the winter tires that were on the car which added $811.75 and some accessories I had on the car such as the console and handle wraps as well as the screen protector that came out to be an additional $100 or so. This was all discussed on January 20th over a month after the accident. I owed $37 654.03 left on my loan so this was paid to my lien holder first. I was paid the remaining $15 478.50 plus the $500 deductible on the 25th. All in all I made out positively with almost $16k throughout this whole ordeal. I also just canceled my auto insurance policy and got a $1200 refund back as my policy was $1800 or so for the whole year and I had paid lump sum. I was told the lapse in auto insurance should be fine if I explain to Liberty Mutual that I canceled due to the car being a total loss and not replacing it immediately and should not hike my rates up but we ll see. I thought it would be worth sharing some of these numbers and my experience with my Tesla being totaled as I wasn t able to find a lot of stories in detail while researching on this sub and others. It s made me paranoid that someone is just going to hit me out of the blue again and I have a fair amount of back pain but it s really fueled my desire to get another Tesla thanks to how safe I felt and was following the accident. My girl did a wonderful job of protecting me -- RIP Sapphire. For now I m actually considering buying a house and using the money towards a downpayment first before getting into another Tesla (which might be a Model Y)! It s just a shame that FSD now costs $10k and can t be transferred. I miss my Tesla very much please give yours love from me. **TL DR: My Tesla Model 3 was totaled in an accident that I was deemed not at fault. The ACV of my 2019 Blue Model 3 LR AWD with 19 Sport Wheels and FSD with 10k miles was $49 312. With Liberty Mutual s Better Car Replacement coverage I was paid $53 632.53 (not including the amount I owed to my lien holder) after over a month of back and forth. Today s Collision in Malden MA is AMAZING and don t forget to clean your Tesla cameras! Also take care of yourselves if you get into an accident and get the proper physical and mental care. Drive safe and put all distractions away two seconds could mean someone s life.** | So something really similar happened to me. I was T-boned by a car blowing a red light going 50 miles an hour and their insurance was going to try to fix it even though it had a severely bent b-pillar. I let my insurance handle it and they were going to Total it and only offer me $45 000. Mind you this is a 2018 performance model 3 with 20 000 miles on it there early. I ended up having to exercise my appraisal Clause because I live in North Carolina. And that allowed me to reappraise with an independent and one of Geico s Independence and that saved me $8 000. As of right now I m still waiting on the check for the excess amount from Bank of America. Everything is sucked it took two months to get another model 3 but I got it the week of Christmas and I couldn t be happier now. No one was hurt and the cops loved the cam footage. | Any guess as to why you didn t take any evasive maneuvers when she was across the line? Congrats on surviving this could have been wayyyyy worse an outcome! | 44 | 8 | 8,095 |
lllhsz | 75 | Note to self: Cold weather driving requires extra battery I was driving from Florida to Louisiana today. I didn t feel like making 2 supercharger stops because I am lazy and cocky and thought I could make it direct to supercharger #2. I knew the cold weather would have an effect but was not prepared for the ridiculous drop The last 50 miles were 10mph below speed limit and no heat AC. We got lucky and pulled into the Supercharger with 1% battery. & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 6gtg3gr4oyh61.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=30b57566e3d5018fcb4ac718f9ce494fa67312a3 | 42 is cold? That s cute 😆😆😆 | At what temperature does range loss start being significant? | 59 | 4 | 8,096 |
lllhsz | 75 | Note to self: Cold weather driving requires extra battery I was driving from Florida to Louisiana today. I didn t feel like making 2 supercharger stops because I am lazy and cocky and thought I could make it direct to supercharger #2. I knew the cold weather would have an effect but was not prepared for the ridiculous drop The last 50 miles were 10mph below speed limit and no heat AC. We got lucky and pulled into the Supercharger with 1% battery. & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 6gtg3gr4oyh61.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=30b57566e3d5018fcb4ac718f9ce494fa67312a3 | It s almost like millions of other people post about this stuff all winter long every year and you think it ll never happen to you. | I just drove home from the coast. I went from Bend Or to Ontario Or and arrived with 3% battery. I went the speed limit most of the way. Dropped down 5mph during the last hour and had my heat at 63F. It was 30F out with snow and rain. I planned on using a J-1772 charger in Burns Or but someone else was already using it and the car said I had 6% buffer. That was pretty scary. lol | 48 | 2 | 8,097 |
lllhsz | 75 | Note to self: Cold weather driving requires extra battery I was driving from Florida to Louisiana today. I didn t feel like making 2 supercharger stops because I am lazy and cocky and thought I could make it direct to supercharger #2. I knew the cold weather would have an effect but was not prepared for the ridiculous drop The last 50 miles were 10mph below speed limit and no heat AC. We got lucky and pulled into the Supercharger with 1% battery. & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 6gtg3gr4oyh61.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=30b57566e3d5018fcb4ac718f9ce494fa67312a3 | It s almost like millions of other people post about this stuff all winter long every year and you think it ll never happen to you. | At what temperature does range loss start being significant? | 48 | 4 | 8,098 |
llpv7c | 360 | If the current emergency in Texas isn t the perfect opportunity to push Vehicle to Grid I don t know what is. Not just Texas but other southern states are struggling with electricity supply right now just like us Californians struggle with it at other times of the year. I feel like this would be a missed opportunity if the powers that be don t see that a well thought out and properly set-up V2G system could really alleviate many of the issues they re currently having. As more and more people switch to electric vehicles and we confront well founded concerns about the grid s ability to handle such electricity demand we should also be able to see that V2G could help with peaking generation as well as saving lives and the economy during an emergency. This subject should be pushed at the highest levels of government in order to facilitate OEMs and utility providers to make V2G a reality. As a Powerwall owner myself I understand Powerwall owners that may initially regret their huge purchase if V2G becomes a reality soon but on the contrary I see it as an opportunity to increase my home s 27kWh system to well over 100kWh at minimal cost. We have most of the hardware already in place to make V2G work in our homes. In time I can see V2G hardware being standard equipment in every new home built with the proper legislation in place. That s my two cents. Edit: it s shocking to me how many naysayers and negative Nancys there are posting on here on a sub about a company that has achieved truly amazing things in the last decade while so many people said it couldn t be done. | I think V2G really needs more fine grained load control on the house side. It s no good if the house can just drain the battery all in one go just because the heater kicked in and all the car can do about it is decide to shut off the whole house. It d also be good if major power consumers such as heaters could negotiate a lower power setting or cause shut off of other intermittent large loads. With powerwall this can also be a problem of course but draining your vehicle unexpectedly can be a really big deal. Perhaps Tesla should convert powerwall into a home microgrid system capable of managing multiple power sources and sinks and make the battery part optional. This is actually a really interesting problem area with regards to user experience which is becoming relevant in consumer electronics as well. New USB C devices can often charge both ways but the user often doesn t expect it to charge or only ever charge in one direction. | Yet another reason why I m excited to see the Hyundai Ioniq 5 release next week. A 72 Kw battery would run my furnace blower and fridge for several days. | 62 | 15 | 8,099 |
llpv7c | 360 | If the current emergency in Texas isn t the perfect opportunity to push Vehicle to Grid I don t know what is. Not just Texas but other southern states are struggling with electricity supply right now just like us Californians struggle with it at other times of the year. I feel like this would be a missed opportunity if the powers that be don t see that a well thought out and properly set-up V2G system could really alleviate many of the issues they re currently having. As more and more people switch to electric vehicles and we confront well founded concerns about the grid s ability to handle such electricity demand we should also be able to see that V2G could help with peaking generation as well as saving lives and the economy during an emergency. This subject should be pushed at the highest levels of government in order to facilitate OEMs and utility providers to make V2G a reality. As a Powerwall owner myself I understand Powerwall owners that may initially regret their huge purchase if V2G becomes a reality soon but on the contrary I see it as an opportunity to increase my home s 27kWh system to well over 100kWh at minimal cost. We have most of the hardware already in place to make V2G work in our homes. In time I can see V2G hardware being standard equipment in every new home built with the proper legislation in place. That s my two cents. Edit: it s shocking to me how many naysayers and negative Nancys there are posting on here on a sub about a company that has achieved truly amazing things in the last decade while so many people said it couldn t be done. | I think V2G really needs more fine grained load control on the house side. It s no good if the house can just drain the battery all in one go just because the heater kicked in and all the car can do about it is decide to shut off the whole house. It d also be good if major power consumers such as heaters could negotiate a lower power setting or cause shut off of other intermittent large loads. With powerwall this can also be a problem of course but draining your vehicle unexpectedly can be a really big deal. Perhaps Tesla should convert powerwall into a home microgrid system capable of managing multiple power sources and sinks and make the battery part optional. This is actually a really interesting problem area with regards to user experience which is becoming relevant in consumer electronics as well. New USB C devices can often charge both ways but the user often doesn t expect it to charge or only ever charge in one direction. | I m down with v2g but I don t think Tesla will do it any time soon. It would reduce their powerwall sales. | 62 | 18 | 8,100 |
llpv7c | 360 | If the current emergency in Texas isn t the perfect opportunity to push Vehicle to Grid I don t know what is. Not just Texas but other southern states are struggling with electricity supply right now just like us Californians struggle with it at other times of the year. I feel like this would be a missed opportunity if the powers that be don t see that a well thought out and properly set-up V2G system could really alleviate many of the issues they re currently having. As more and more people switch to electric vehicles and we confront well founded concerns about the grid s ability to handle such electricity demand we should also be able to see that V2G could help with peaking generation as well as saving lives and the economy during an emergency. This subject should be pushed at the highest levels of government in order to facilitate OEMs and utility providers to make V2G a reality. As a Powerwall owner myself I understand Powerwall owners that may initially regret their huge purchase if V2G becomes a reality soon but on the contrary I see it as an opportunity to increase my home s 27kWh system to well over 100kWh at minimal cost. We have most of the hardware already in place to make V2G work in our homes. In time I can see V2G hardware being standard equipment in every new home built with the proper legislation in place. That s my two cents. Edit: it s shocking to me how many naysayers and negative Nancys there are posting on here on a sub about a company that has achieved truly amazing things in the last decade while so many people said it couldn t be done. | I think V2G really needs more fine grained load control on the house side. It s no good if the house can just drain the battery all in one go just because the heater kicked in and all the car can do about it is decide to shut off the whole house. It d also be good if major power consumers such as heaters could negotiate a lower power setting or cause shut off of other intermittent large loads. With powerwall this can also be a problem of course but draining your vehicle unexpectedly can be a really big deal. Perhaps Tesla should convert powerwall into a home microgrid system capable of managing multiple power sources and sinks and make the battery part optional. This is actually a really interesting problem area with regards to user experience which is becoming relevant in consumer electronics as well. New USB C devices can often charge both ways but the user often doesn t expect it to charge or only ever charge in one direction. | The cars would not power the grid for long so you d have dead cars and still be in the same situation. Once power begins to trickle back you ll have every vehicle owner trying to get their cars charged again so they can go to work and stores. What an I missing? It would help in some situations but not so certain about how much it would help in Texas right now. Perhaps in the future when Texas has more EVs. If I were in that situation I would be tempted to consume the power from others and also keep my car charged by not participating. I could buy time waiting it all out by sitting on the seat warmers while power is out. | 62 | 35 | 8,101 |
lmr67t | 126 | Tesla rep called: The Model Y LR RWD I had reserved will NOT be manufactured ever. Like the title says. I ve had a long range rear wheel drive Model Y reserved since the announcement day. Rep just called trying to get me to upgrade to the AWD LR model saying she ll keep my initial reservation price of $7k for FSD if I do so (rather than the $10k it seems to now cost). She said this is a limited time offer and they haven t given them any guidance as to how long it will be good for — BUT most importantly says that the company has decided NOT to manufacture the long range rear wheel drive Model Y whatsoever. I live in Southern California and have absolutely no interest in all wheel drive — but I live in Southern California where everything is far away and have a definitive interest in long range battery capacity. So that sucks. | Elon also said they weren t going to make a Standard Range Y yet here we are. Never isn t a thing for Tesla. | This is old news. | 117 | 2 | 8,102 |
lmr67t | 126 | Tesla rep called: The Model Y LR RWD I had reserved will NOT be manufactured ever. Like the title says. I ve had a long range rear wheel drive Model Y reserved since the announcement day. Rep just called trying to get me to upgrade to the AWD LR model saying she ll keep my initial reservation price of $7k for FSD if I do so (rather than the $10k it seems to now cost). She said this is a limited time offer and they haven t given them any guidance as to how long it will be good for — BUT most importantly says that the company has decided NOT to manufacture the long range rear wheel drive Model Y whatsoever. I live in Southern California and have absolutely no interest in all wheel drive — but I live in Southern California where everything is far away and have a definitive interest in long range battery capacity. So that sucks. | Elon also said they weren t going to make a Standard Range Y yet here we are. Never isn t a thing for Tesla. | I m in same situation was waiting on long range but Tesla called and confirmed that company has no plans to make the configuration therefore I need to either order now or cancel reservation. I have no interest in buying the dual motor as I am in Texas. Will most likely pursue the SR MY. If Tesla decides to bring back LR MY later this year I ll definitely be a upset as they are making reservation holders leave no choice at the moment. | 117 | 3 | 8,103 |
lmr67t | 126 | Tesla rep called: The Model Y LR RWD I had reserved will NOT be manufactured ever. Like the title says. I ve had a long range rear wheel drive Model Y reserved since the announcement day. Rep just called trying to get me to upgrade to the AWD LR model saying she ll keep my initial reservation price of $7k for FSD if I do so (rather than the $10k it seems to now cost). She said this is a limited time offer and they haven t given them any guidance as to how long it will be good for — BUT most importantly says that the company has decided NOT to manufacture the long range rear wheel drive Model Y whatsoever. I live in Southern California and have absolutely no interest in all wheel drive — but I live in Southern California where everything is far away and have a definitive interest in long range battery capacity. So that sucks. | Elon also said they weren t going to make a Standard Range Y yet here we are. Never isn t a thing for Tesla. | Idk about ever haha but definitely not soon. I d prefer LR RWD as well | 117 | 3 | 8,104 |
lmuf37 | 260 | PSA don t get your panel gaps fixed unless they are really bad So I had a few panel gaps like I m sure many of you do and the sales advisor let me know that I can report any issues within the first 100 miles and the service team would look into it for free and fix if anything wasn t within spec. So I went ahead and made sure to report whatever I could find expecting that they have trained experts who can fix these issues. However this was not the case. First off I appreciate their willingness to try and fix everything instead of just telling me it was within spec and to go away. However they did a horrible job. In trying to fix a gap by the door trim they adjusted it but made everything else much worse. Additionally they scuffed the paint in the corner of my door and the inside panel. I now am also getting tons of wind noise so I have to come back. They addressed some other gaps by the trunk but once again it ended up making other parts worse. It s never a perfect fix as you are surprised with another misaligned panel or gap in their attempt to fix the first one. I now regret ever taking it to get these gaps fixed because I don t know if they will be able to fix the wind noise issue. TLDR: your shit might come out worse than before | I asked my mobile technician what he thought about my panel gaps. He said “They re not terrible but I strongly urge you not to try to get them fixed. Often times they fix them but then other gaps become more noticeable since things have shifted.” I now greatly appreciate his honesty. | My last car had a rattle in the dashboard on day 1 (wasn t that bad I just wanted perfection in my new car). Made an appointment they took apart nearly the entire dash trying to find it and gave it back to me with a new rattle. The first one was fixed though... | 279 | 66 | 8,105 |
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