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jshnyd | 42 | Has 2020.44.10 considerably improved multimedia sound quality? I listen a lot to Streaming and was already pleased with the quality of the sound system that comes with the Premium interior version of my M3 LR 2020 from Dec 2019. Although the bass could be a little better considering that the car has a subwoofer in the trunk. With recent update 2020.44.10 I have the feeling that the sound is so much better and bass is so much more present. I want to believe they did improve it but would like to check if this is true with the community before booking an appointment with the doctor to check my brain. This pandemic is making me go nuts. Nice day to all of you. | Spotify works so much more smoothly and reliably now that yes the multimedia sound has vastly improved from being very spotty and unreliable playing the same 10 songs over and over to actually being a legitimately great Spotify implementation. | I did not recognize any changes.... | 35 | 6 | 7,706 |
jszye3 | 33 | Does the 2021 Model 3 have a heated steering wheel? Hey all I ve been a long time Tesla fan and I m coming close to getting a new Tesla. However I live in colder climates and I know that I would absolutely love a heated steering wheel. However I couldn t find concrete evidence of the 2021 model 3 has a heated steering wheel or not. Could anyone confirm or deny this? I m actually looking at getting the 2021 model Y when that comes out but I m hoping if the model 3 has a heated steering wheel it will carry over to the model Y. | In before the people who think cabin preconditioning makes up for not having heated steering wheel or cooled seats. | It doesn t. | 55 | 14 | 7,707 |
jszye3 | 33 | Does the 2021 Model 3 have a heated steering wheel? Hey all I ve been a long time Tesla fan and I m coming close to getting a new Tesla. However I live in colder climates and I know that I would absolutely love a heated steering wheel. However I couldn t find concrete evidence of the 2021 model 3 has a heated steering wheel or not. Could anyone confirm or deny this? I m actually looking at getting the 2021 model Y when that comes out but I m hoping if the model 3 has a heated steering wheel it will carry over to the model Y. | One of those rumored features to be coming out soon but nothing official | It doesn t. | 43 | 14 | 7,708 |
jszye3 | 33 | Does the 2021 Model 3 have a heated steering wheel? Hey all I ve been a long time Tesla fan and I m coming close to getting a new Tesla. However I live in colder climates and I know that I would absolutely love a heated steering wheel. However I couldn t find concrete evidence of the 2021 model 3 has a heated steering wheel or not. Could anyone confirm or deny this? I m actually looking at getting the 2021 model Y when that comes out but I m hoping if the model 3 has a heated steering wheel it will carry over to the model Y. | In before the people who think cabin preconditioning makes up for not having heated steering wheel or cooled seats. | No | 55 | 29 | 7,709 |
jti9sg | 1,053 | Unable to supercharge my car. What options to I have before I sue Tesla? # UPDATE: It looks like it s fixed. My car is no longer telling me I need a payment method and it s no longer tell me I m blocked from supercharging. I haven t gone to a supercharger yet but I m hopeful. After this thread started getting traction and my tweets got some re-tweets. u TrepidatiousBuffalo reached out to me as well as 3 reps from Tesla AND I finally heard back from Erik via email. Somebody did something (I think u TrepidatiousBuffalo) did something because all the sudden I was able to make a payment online with a button that wasn t there before and the errors were gone. So after nearly 3 weeks I THINK this is finally fixed. To u TrepidatiousBuffalo Wyatt Andry Arshkit or Erik (was beginning to wonder if you were real). Thanks for helping. To all the people who responded with constructive ideas or simply just to share my pain and frustrations. Thanks I appreciate it. To all the people who thought it was hilarious that I would consider suing because I m not entitled to supercharging or whatever dumb reason. Fuck you people. Just because you re so brainwashed that you ll eat shit while saying thank you doesn t mean I should too. Legal or not have a case or not this is simply not how you treat customers. Period. \\-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for some thoughts from the community here. Starting on Oct 27 2020 after a stop at a supercharger my M3P said I am blocked from supercharging because there is no credit card on my account however I do have a credit card on my account. I called customer service to figure out what is going on and they found out my supercharging is connected to someone else s account and that this issue will have to be escalated to another team to fix. For the time being if I want to supercharge I must call customer service tell them the situation then they unlock **ONE** supercharging session for me. So far it s been: * 19 days since this started * 8 calls to customer service (on 2 of these calls they swore it was fixed it wasn t) * No timeline to get this fixed * A guy named Eric is in charge of my problem at least 4 times CSRs have told me that Eric will call me back soon. I still have never heard from Eric. I had a road trip planned for this weekend but it looks like I won t be able to go because I only get 1 charging session at a time and customer service is closed on the weekends. So I can t take my $72 000 car more than 150 miles from home. On top of this I noticed that my supercharging history since this ordeal started is not showing up on my account at all so it stands to reason that this other person can see exactly where and when I m supercharging. I asked a CSR point blank if this other person can see my charging details and the CSR was unable to confirm that the other person can t see my details. So this could be a privacy and data breach issue as well. I m not a litigious guy but I m not seeing another option here. Does anyone have any suggestions before I engage a lawyer? EDIT: I know it s a long shot but I ve been tweeting u Tesla and u Elonmusk about this and have had no response either. I m @NamsTweets on twitter if anyone wants to follow and re-tweet my problem there. | Employee here. I have seen this before in rare instances. PM me your VIN and I m happy to take a look. | Hopefully others will help upvote this and it will catch someone s attention at Tesla. | 1,285 | 2 | 7,710 |
jti9sg | 1,053 | Unable to supercharge my car. What options to I have before I sue Tesla? # UPDATE: It looks like it s fixed. My car is no longer telling me I need a payment method and it s no longer tell me I m blocked from supercharging. I haven t gone to a supercharger yet but I m hopeful. After this thread started getting traction and my tweets got some re-tweets. u TrepidatiousBuffalo reached out to me as well as 3 reps from Tesla AND I finally heard back from Erik via email. Somebody did something (I think u TrepidatiousBuffalo) did something because all the sudden I was able to make a payment online with a button that wasn t there before and the errors were gone. So after nearly 3 weeks I THINK this is finally fixed. To u TrepidatiousBuffalo Wyatt Andry Arshkit or Erik (was beginning to wonder if you were real). Thanks for helping. To all the people who responded with constructive ideas or simply just to share my pain and frustrations. Thanks I appreciate it. To all the people who thought it was hilarious that I would consider suing because I m not entitled to supercharging or whatever dumb reason. Fuck you people. Just because you re so brainwashed that you ll eat shit while saying thank you doesn t mean I should too. Legal or not have a case or not this is simply not how you treat customers. Period. \\-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for some thoughts from the community here. Starting on Oct 27 2020 after a stop at a supercharger my M3P said I am blocked from supercharging because there is no credit card on my account however I do have a credit card on my account. I called customer service to figure out what is going on and they found out my supercharging is connected to someone else s account and that this issue will have to be escalated to another team to fix. For the time being if I want to supercharge I must call customer service tell them the situation then they unlock **ONE** supercharging session for me. So far it s been: * 19 days since this started * 8 calls to customer service (on 2 of these calls they swore it was fixed it wasn t) * No timeline to get this fixed * A guy named Eric is in charge of my problem at least 4 times CSRs have told me that Eric will call me back soon. I still have never heard from Eric. I had a road trip planned for this weekend but it looks like I won t be able to go because I only get 1 charging session at a time and customer service is closed on the weekends. So I can t take my $72 000 car more than 150 miles from home. On top of this I noticed that my supercharging history since this ordeal started is not showing up on my account at all so it stands to reason that this other person can see exactly where and when I m supercharging. I asked a CSR point blank if this other person can see my charging details and the CSR was unable to confirm that the other person can t see my details. So this could be a privacy and data breach issue as well. I m not a litigious guy but I m not seeing another option here. Does anyone have any suggestions before I engage a lawyer? EDIT: I know it s a long shot but I ve been tweeting u Tesla and u Elonmusk about this and have had no response either. I m @NamsTweets on twitter if anyone wants to follow and re-tweet my problem there. | Employee here. I have seen this before in rare instances. PM me your VIN and I m happy to take a look. | This sounds totally infuriating. It also sounds like something you have to kick down the door of a service centre for. I d go there and refuse to leave until the problem is fixed. | 1,285 | 2 | 7,711 |
jti9sg | 1,053 | Unable to supercharge my car. What options to I have before I sue Tesla? # UPDATE: It looks like it s fixed. My car is no longer telling me I need a payment method and it s no longer tell me I m blocked from supercharging. I haven t gone to a supercharger yet but I m hopeful. After this thread started getting traction and my tweets got some re-tweets. u TrepidatiousBuffalo reached out to me as well as 3 reps from Tesla AND I finally heard back from Erik via email. Somebody did something (I think u TrepidatiousBuffalo) did something because all the sudden I was able to make a payment online with a button that wasn t there before and the errors were gone. So after nearly 3 weeks I THINK this is finally fixed. To u TrepidatiousBuffalo Wyatt Andry Arshkit or Erik (was beginning to wonder if you were real). Thanks for helping. To all the people who responded with constructive ideas or simply just to share my pain and frustrations. Thanks I appreciate it. To all the people who thought it was hilarious that I would consider suing because I m not entitled to supercharging or whatever dumb reason. Fuck you people. Just because you re so brainwashed that you ll eat shit while saying thank you doesn t mean I should too. Legal or not have a case or not this is simply not how you treat customers. Period. \\-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for some thoughts from the community here. Starting on Oct 27 2020 after a stop at a supercharger my M3P said I am blocked from supercharging because there is no credit card on my account however I do have a credit card on my account. I called customer service to figure out what is going on and they found out my supercharging is connected to someone else s account and that this issue will have to be escalated to another team to fix. For the time being if I want to supercharge I must call customer service tell them the situation then they unlock **ONE** supercharging session for me. So far it s been: * 19 days since this started * 8 calls to customer service (on 2 of these calls they swore it was fixed it wasn t) * No timeline to get this fixed * A guy named Eric is in charge of my problem at least 4 times CSRs have told me that Eric will call me back soon. I still have never heard from Eric. I had a road trip planned for this weekend but it looks like I won t be able to go because I only get 1 charging session at a time and customer service is closed on the weekends. So I can t take my $72 000 car more than 150 miles from home. On top of this I noticed that my supercharging history since this ordeal started is not showing up on my account at all so it stands to reason that this other person can see exactly where and when I m supercharging. I asked a CSR point blank if this other person can see my charging details and the CSR was unable to confirm that the other person can t see my details. So this could be a privacy and data breach issue as well. I m not a litigious guy but I m not seeing another option here. Does anyone have any suggestions before I engage a lawyer? EDIT: I know it s a long shot but I ve been tweeting u Tesla and u Elonmusk about this and have had no response either. I m @NamsTweets on twitter if anyone wants to follow and re-tweet my problem there. | Employee here. I have seen this before in rare instances. PM me your VIN and I m happy to take a look. | Create a new Tesla account and just transfer the car over to that account and then back. That might clear it out for you. | 1,285 | 3 | 7,712 |
jue2xz | 147 | Help: Who do I contact to fix a disappearing Ludicrous mode hi! I bought My P100D Model X about 18 months ago during the chaotic Q1 Q2 switch. I bought a demo model with 5K miles. We never discussed if it had Ludicrous or not before purchase but when I picked it up the car logo had the underline (under the P100D) the sticker (still in the car) mentioned Ludicrous and the VIN said it had it (and still says so). The car also had it enabled. I happily took delivery and went my merry way. A few months ago I noticed the mode had disappeared and I only had Insane mode. I opened a support ticket to have it reinstated and they told me the downgraded the car before selling it to me and that I could pay 20K to put it back. This is not documented anywhere in the papers I signed and as I mentioned above everything about the car says it came with it. They closed my ticked and are not responding. I fear I need to take legal action to get it re-enabled andce I feel I have enough evidence. Does anyone have any suggestions? small claims court? arbitration? contact their legal department? Anyone high enough up I could email? Thanks! | Can t help you but Godspeed in your uphill battle. Upvoting for visibility. | You bought it from Tesla directly and it says ludicrous mode on the paperwork you have? | 48 | 13 | 7,713 |
jue2xz | 147 | Help: Who do I contact to fix a disappearing Ludicrous mode hi! I bought My P100D Model X about 18 months ago during the chaotic Q1 Q2 switch. I bought a demo model with 5K miles. We never discussed if it had Ludicrous or not before purchase but when I picked it up the car logo had the underline (under the P100D) the sticker (still in the car) mentioned Ludicrous and the VIN said it had it (and still says so). The car also had it enabled. I happily took delivery and went my merry way. A few months ago I noticed the mode had disappeared and I only had Insane mode. I opened a support ticket to have it reinstated and they told me the downgraded the car before selling it to me and that I could pay 20K to put it back. This is not documented anywhere in the papers I signed and as I mentioned above everything about the car says it came with it. They closed my ticked and are not responding. I fear I need to take legal action to get it re-enabled andce I feel I have enough evidence. Does anyone have any suggestions? small claims court? arbitration? contact their legal department? Anyone high enough up I could email? Thanks! | How is this kind of behavior not fraud? I hope they quit this bullshit before it gets legal political and media attention. Regardless this kind of behavior will do nothing but push people away from the brand. Nobody is going to fork over tens of thousands more after feeling like they ve been cheated out of what they bought. Tesla gets nothing and hurts their reputation and customer base. | Tesla | 35 | 4 | 7,714 |
jue2xz | 147 | Help: Who do I contact to fix a disappearing Ludicrous mode hi! I bought My P100D Model X about 18 months ago during the chaotic Q1 Q2 switch. I bought a demo model with 5K miles. We never discussed if it had Ludicrous or not before purchase but when I picked it up the car logo had the underline (under the P100D) the sticker (still in the car) mentioned Ludicrous and the VIN said it had it (and still says so). The car also had it enabled. I happily took delivery and went my merry way. A few months ago I noticed the mode had disappeared and I only had Insane mode. I opened a support ticket to have it reinstated and they told me the downgraded the car before selling it to me and that I could pay 20K to put it back. This is not documented anywhere in the papers I signed and as I mentioned above everything about the car says it came with it. They closed my ticked and are not responding. I fear I need to take legal action to get it re-enabled andce I feel I have enough evidence. Does anyone have any suggestions? small claims court? arbitration? contact their legal department? Anyone high enough up I could email? Thanks! | How is this kind of behavior not fraud? I hope they quit this bullshit before it gets legal political and media attention. Regardless this kind of behavior will do nothing but push people away from the brand. Nobody is going to fork over tens of thousands more after feeling like they ve been cheated out of what they bought. Tesla gets nothing and hurts their reputation and customer base. | The VIN won t reveal any information about included software and the sticker won t hold much weight if those aren t the options you bought paid for. Pros and cons with used Tesla s demo cars- they can do whatever they want regarding software to help sell cars. | 35 | 9 | 7,715 |
juq5hd | 34 | Back up Camera with MCU 2.0 - now useless at night? I have a 2015 Model S 85D and have loved it since the day I got it. A few months ago my MCU died and I was able to have the MCU 2.0 installed. This has generally been a huge improvement overall in terms of new features responsiveness and the overall user experience with the main touchscreen. Prior to the upgrade my backup camera worked perfectly at night. I was actually always very impressed with how well it worked at night. With the reverse lights on I could back up and see everything without any issues at all even in total darkness. I keep the backup camera on at the top of my display all the time and was also able to use it while driving at night to see cars behind me and help with blind spots at night. Now post-upgrade the back up camera is totally useless at night. Even in my very well-lit (with several flood lights) driveway at night with my reverse lights on I can t even see the ground just below my bumper. I feel significantly less safe at night now with the decreased performance of the camera at night. When driving other car headlights behind me barely register as couple of white dots in the blackness. I ve seen a couple other posts about this but I have yet to see any solution or resolution. Anyone aware of what would cause this issue or how to resolve it? Thanks | Yeah all MCU1 to MCU2 owners notice the drastic difference in night time brightness on the backup camera. I filed a service appointment via the app and the tech told me Tesla engineering is aware of the issue and working on a software fix . Not holding my breath as I ve seen in forums that this has been going on since earlier in the year. | Sounds like whatever special thing Tesla does to enhance the visuals isn t working. I d suggest contacting service about it and see what they have to say. | 31 | 2 | 7,716 |
juq5hd | 34 | Back up Camera with MCU 2.0 - now useless at night? I have a 2015 Model S 85D and have loved it since the day I got it. A few months ago my MCU died and I was able to have the MCU 2.0 installed. This has generally been a huge improvement overall in terms of new features responsiveness and the overall user experience with the main touchscreen. Prior to the upgrade my backup camera worked perfectly at night. I was actually always very impressed with how well it worked at night. With the reverse lights on I could back up and see everything without any issues at all even in total darkness. I keep the backup camera on at the top of my display all the time and was also able to use it while driving at night to see cars behind me and help with blind spots at night. Now post-upgrade the back up camera is totally useless at night. Even in my very well-lit (with several flood lights) driveway at night with my reverse lights on I can t even see the ground just below my bumper. I feel significantly less safe at night now with the decreased performance of the camera at night. When driving other car headlights behind me barely register as couple of white dots in the blackness. I ve seen a couple other posts about this but I have yet to see any solution or resolution. Anyone aware of what would cause this issue or how to resolve it? Thanks | Yeah all MCU1 to MCU2 owners notice the drastic difference in night time brightness on the backup camera. I filed a service appointment via the app and the tech told me Tesla engineering is aware of the issue and working on a software fix . Not holding my breath as I ve seen in forums that this has been going on since earlier in the year. | I have the exact same issue on my 2015 MS post MCU2 upgrade... | 31 | 5 | 7,717 |
jurehk | 108 | Model Y cold weather driving impressions EDIT: I forgot that my TesllaMate server had detailed efficiency logs. Looks like when the temperature was between 0 and 10° on my trip I was at 64.7% efficiency and using an average of 370 Wh mi. I live in Colorado and commute between Crested Butte and Denver for work and wanted to share my impressions on cold weather range. This past Thursday November 12th I left Denver and charged the car up to 280 miles at the Conifer supercharger. It was a pretty cold night overall I saw the temperature range between about 2° Fahrenheit all the way up to 15° or so [https: ibb.co G7V7W40](https: ibb.co G7V7W40). I thought this would be enough charge to get me home as it was a little less than 200 miles total but I was wrong. Along the drive the navigation kept telling me to reduce my speed in order to have enough charge range to get home. It started off saying to stay below 70mph then over the course of an hour the warning dropped to 65 60 and finally 55 miles an hour. At this point I knew I wouldn t make it and had to stop at the Poncha Springs supercharger station. When I arrived my battery stated it had 121 miles of range while I only drove approximately 112 miles. The difference between estimated range and actual range was about 47 miles. [https: ibb.co w066Svh](https: ibb.co w066Svh) After charging up to about 190 miles I set off on the second leg of the trip to Crested Butte [https: ibb.co HCQPMYs](https: ibb.co HCQPMYs). When I arrived home the car had 44 miles of range left The trip was a total of 88 miles. So that s a difference of 58 miles between estimated and actual. Much worse rage loss but it was colder on average. A few more details there wasn t much wind that night but the commute is in the mountains and had a bit of up and down going over various passes. The regenerative brakes definitely help going down. I had The heated seat set to 2 3 and the interior cabin was between 68 and 72 most of the drive. Even though the model Y has a heat pump instead of resistive heating I was still worried about range and kept it pretty cool. I wouldn t say I was ever comfortably warm The left side of my body towards the door was always cold and I was wearing my hoodie over my head in order to stay a bit warmer. I m not dissing on the car or anything it s probably my favorite Automobile I ve owned. Overall it s very impressive and I love driving it. I just wanted to share. | Thank you for sharing. Did you capture the wh mi? That would be a very valuable piece of data if you have it. | That EPA rated range next to the speedometer is basically useless. It doesn t factor anything environmental driving habits etc. It s just the amount of energy in the pack x EPA rated Wh mi. Use the energy graphs in the bottom menu to get a better idea of actual range. That will calculate range based on you rolling average of Wh mi consumption. The map uses this calculation when routing but it s variable as you travel because your efficiency goes up and down based on conditions and driving habits. | 39 | 12 | 7,718 |
jurreu | 81 | PSA Keep your key card with you at all times! Just a quick PSA to keep your key card with you at all times. This morning I needed to tmake a quick errand. Went to precondition the M3 by turning on the climate. Started the app and it had me log in. Haven t had that happen that I can remember since delivery on 9 30. Logged in and turned on climate. So far so good. Went to get in the car with phone in my pocket (yes bluetooth was on) and the phone would not get me in I needed to use the card to get in and to drive. Looked at the lock screen and my phone was listed. Restarted my phone during the drive. When I got back to my car after running in to the store my phone unlocked and started the car fine. Don t know what could have caused this but just a reminder to keep the card with you at all times. | Don t forget you can start the car and unlock the car with the app even when the automatic detection did not work. Also your partner for example (assuming you have one) could remotely unlock and start the car for you worst case. But indeed I carry a card with me. | Why not just unlock from the app and remote start? Don t need Bluetooth at all for that | 99 | 5 | 7,719 |
jurreu | 81 | PSA Keep your key card with you at all times! Just a quick PSA to keep your key card with you at all times. This morning I needed to tmake a quick errand. Went to precondition the M3 by turning on the climate. Started the app and it had me log in. Haven t had that happen that I can remember since delivery on 9 30. Logged in and turned on climate. So far so good. Went to get in the car with phone in my pocket (yes bluetooth was on) and the phone would not get me in I needed to use the card to get in and to drive. Looked at the lock screen and my phone was listed. Restarted my phone during the drive. When I got back to my car after running in to the store my phone unlocked and started the car fine. Don t know what could have caused this but just a reminder to keep the card with you at all times. | Don t forget you can start the car and unlock the car with the app even when the automatic detection did not work. Also your partner for example (assuming you have one) could remotely unlock and start the car for you worst case. But indeed I carry a card with me. | Yep. In addition to weird errors like this you never know when some critical component in your phone might decide to fail or you might just drop it in the toilet or something. Don t set yourself up to be stranded just because your phone died. | 99 | 9 | 7,720 |
jurreu | 81 | PSA Keep your key card with you at all times! Just a quick PSA to keep your key card with you at all times. This morning I needed to tmake a quick errand. Went to precondition the M3 by turning on the climate. Started the app and it had me log in. Haven t had that happen that I can remember since delivery on 9 30. Logged in and turned on climate. So far so good. Went to get in the car with phone in my pocket (yes bluetooth was on) and the phone would not get me in I needed to use the card to get in and to drive. Looked at the lock screen and my phone was listed. Restarted my phone during the drive. When I got back to my car after running in to the store my phone unlocked and started the car fine. Don t know what could have caused this but just a reminder to keep the card with you at all times. | Don t forget you can start the car and unlock the car with the app even when the automatic detection did not work. Also your partner for example (assuming you have one) could remotely unlock and start the car for you worst case. But indeed I carry a card with me. | When this happens I usually toggle airplane mode or place my phone on the cup holder and use the NFC instead of Bluetooth. | 99 | 24 | 7,721 |
jvtfkf | 39 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! We re going to start consolidating feature requests into a centralized thread posted every couple of weeks to better manage requests and to get good voting and discussion of specific features. If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | I hate how when in cold weather the regeneration braking is reduced. The car should compensate and apply the mechanical brakes more when regen isn t available or reduced. Having the car behave differently based on temperature isn t safe. | Upon detecting an event sentry mode should automatically close any open windows. What good is it if the car is recording but someone can still reach in and take something? | 57 | 6 | 7,722 |
jvtfkf | 39 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! We re going to start consolidating feature requests into a centralized thread posted every couple of weeks to better manage requests and to get good voting and discussion of specific features. If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | I hate how when in cold weather the regeneration braking is reduced. The car should compensate and apply the mechanical brakes more when regen isn t available or reduced. Having the car behave differently based on temperature isn t safe. | -On off auto for mirror dimming -Customizable timeout for 12v socket power | 57 | 11 | 7,723 |
jvtfkf | 39 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! We re going to start consolidating feature requests into a centralized thread posted every couple of weeks to better manage requests and to get good voting and discussion of specific features. If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | I hate how when in cold weather the regeneration braking is reduced. The car should compensate and apply the mechanical brakes more when regen isn t available or reduced. Having the car behave differently based on temperature isn t safe. | Tesla Model 3 Being able to title rename note dashcam footage. I have a 1 TB external SSD and finding certain dashcam footage that I manually saved can be time consuming when searching for an specific event. | 57 | 13 | 7,724 |
jvy68c | 43 | Review: Ride Quality and Cabin Noise of the 2020 Model 3 and Y compared to my 2019 Model 3 When I picked up my Model 3 in September of 2019 I was excited. People on reddit commented and posted about how the Model 3 was whisper quiet and that the suspension is so smooth but those ended up being a bunch of nonsense. I loved many aspects of my Model 3 but I absolutely hated it as a car. It was the worst car I ve ever leased. I tried everything from door seals to roof seals to wheel well sound deadening covers and even outright replacing all 4 tires 500 miles into my lease. It was all futile the Model 3 had terrible ride quality and had a cabin noise comparable to a base model 2013 Hyundai Elantra. I was excited at the beginning so I ignored it but after 12 months of living with it and driving 13 000 miles on it I couldn t stand it anymore and I got rid of it. I picked up a 2020 Model S which is an absolutely amazing vehicle in terms of ride quality(I hated the 2017 Model S the 2020 is much better) But there were updated to the Model 3 with Elon Musk saying that the new models are quieter and the introduction of laminated glass on the 3 and Y I decided to go down to my nearest service center an took the 2020 Model 3 LR and 2020 Model Y LR for a test drive both were with the base wheels (18 and 19 respectively) and I tried 3 different PSI levels 42 39 35. I know 35 PSI seems low but I was desperate to try and make the suspension livable it was not possible. So compared to the 2019 Model 3 with 19 Sport wheels the 2020 Model 3 with Aero wheels did not feel much different. It felt a little bit softer on perfect asphalt pavement but on the crappy freeway between LAX and UCLA(the 405) both suspensions felt the same. The Model Y was actually a bit better. It was not a great ride I would compare it to something like a Honda CR-V not even close to what an Audi Q5 or a BMW X3 feels like but maybe due to the increased ride height it was less harsh than both the Model 3s. If I had to pick I would pick the Model Y but neither cars have good ride quality. In terms of cabin noise there was barely any difference. From my observation my 2019 Model 3 was actually a gem of a model 3 for its time it was built properly with properly aligned seals on the doors and what not which was likely why the door seals and roof seals made no difference to me. The 2020 is not any better. The same amount of wind noise and the same amount of road noise entered the cabin. However the difference was that I could hear less of the cars next to me. It wasn t a huge amount but it was a little bit better. The Model Y was worse I felt like there was even more noise in the Model Y with some kind of low pitched hum which made my ears hurt and it was not a pleasant ride. So my conclusion is that whoever had an older model 3 or y there is not much of an improvement in ride quality or cabin noise its just as bad so you re not missing out on much. One of the reasons I was more hopeful for the 2020 Model 3 and Y was because of my experience with the Model S. I tried the 2017 Model S and I absolutely hated it. It was loud and the suspension for an air suspension was quite terrible. But I ended up picking up the 2020 Model S because it was just so much better. The suspension was actually comparable to an Air Suspension setup from Mercedes and the cabin noise was very similar to a 2015 S-Class. the 2020 Model S was such a huge improvement from the 2017 Model S that I was immediately sold on the 2020 Model S its a fantastic car. Model 3 and Y not so much. I was expecting similar levels of improvement from a older production to the latest production. | I tell people my P3D- is one of the quietest cars below 45mph. And it s one of the noisiest cars Above 55mph. | Good to know. Thanks for posting. I guess I need to drive a 2020 model S to see what a premium suspension feels like. I m ok with my model 3 suspension and quite love it but maybe I don t know what I don t know or maybe it s that I don t mind (or even prefer) more road feel. | 61 | 3 | 7,725 |
jvy68c | 43 | Review: Ride Quality and Cabin Noise of the 2020 Model 3 and Y compared to my 2019 Model 3 When I picked up my Model 3 in September of 2019 I was excited. People on reddit commented and posted about how the Model 3 was whisper quiet and that the suspension is so smooth but those ended up being a bunch of nonsense. I loved many aspects of my Model 3 but I absolutely hated it as a car. It was the worst car I ve ever leased. I tried everything from door seals to roof seals to wheel well sound deadening covers and even outright replacing all 4 tires 500 miles into my lease. It was all futile the Model 3 had terrible ride quality and had a cabin noise comparable to a base model 2013 Hyundai Elantra. I was excited at the beginning so I ignored it but after 12 months of living with it and driving 13 000 miles on it I couldn t stand it anymore and I got rid of it. I picked up a 2020 Model S which is an absolutely amazing vehicle in terms of ride quality(I hated the 2017 Model S the 2020 is much better) But there were updated to the Model 3 with Elon Musk saying that the new models are quieter and the introduction of laminated glass on the 3 and Y I decided to go down to my nearest service center an took the 2020 Model 3 LR and 2020 Model Y LR for a test drive both were with the base wheels (18 and 19 respectively) and I tried 3 different PSI levels 42 39 35. I know 35 PSI seems low but I was desperate to try and make the suspension livable it was not possible. So compared to the 2019 Model 3 with 19 Sport wheels the 2020 Model 3 with Aero wheels did not feel much different. It felt a little bit softer on perfect asphalt pavement but on the crappy freeway between LAX and UCLA(the 405) both suspensions felt the same. The Model Y was actually a bit better. It was not a great ride I would compare it to something like a Honda CR-V not even close to what an Audi Q5 or a BMW X3 feels like but maybe due to the increased ride height it was less harsh than both the Model 3s. If I had to pick I would pick the Model Y but neither cars have good ride quality. In terms of cabin noise there was barely any difference. From my observation my 2019 Model 3 was actually a gem of a model 3 for its time it was built properly with properly aligned seals on the doors and what not which was likely why the door seals and roof seals made no difference to me. The 2020 is not any better. The same amount of wind noise and the same amount of road noise entered the cabin. However the difference was that I could hear less of the cars next to me. It wasn t a huge amount but it was a little bit better. The Model Y was worse I felt like there was even more noise in the Model Y with some kind of low pitched hum which made my ears hurt and it was not a pleasant ride. So my conclusion is that whoever had an older model 3 or y there is not much of an improvement in ride quality or cabin noise its just as bad so you re not missing out on much. One of the reasons I was more hopeful for the 2020 Model 3 and Y was because of my experience with the Model S. I tried the 2017 Model S and I absolutely hated it. It was loud and the suspension for an air suspension was quite terrible. But I ended up picking up the 2020 Model S because it was just so much better. The suspension was actually comparable to an Air Suspension setup from Mercedes and the cabin noise was very similar to a 2015 S-Class. the 2020 Model S was such a huge improvement from the 2017 Model S that I was immediately sold on the 2020 Model S its a fantastic car. Model 3 and Y not so much. I was expecting similar levels of improvement from a older production to the latest production. | I tell people my P3D- is one of the quietest cars below 45mph. And it s one of the noisiest cars Above 55mph. | All of this makes sense. I own a Model S and I ve driven hundreds of miles in a co-workers Model 3 and I concur with the noise and ride statements. They are a world apart but really noticeable when you drive on crappy highways for 100+ miles at a time. | 61 | 6 | 7,726 |
jvy68c | 43 | Review: Ride Quality and Cabin Noise of the 2020 Model 3 and Y compared to my 2019 Model 3 When I picked up my Model 3 in September of 2019 I was excited. People on reddit commented and posted about how the Model 3 was whisper quiet and that the suspension is so smooth but those ended up being a bunch of nonsense. I loved many aspects of my Model 3 but I absolutely hated it as a car. It was the worst car I ve ever leased. I tried everything from door seals to roof seals to wheel well sound deadening covers and even outright replacing all 4 tires 500 miles into my lease. It was all futile the Model 3 had terrible ride quality and had a cabin noise comparable to a base model 2013 Hyundai Elantra. I was excited at the beginning so I ignored it but after 12 months of living with it and driving 13 000 miles on it I couldn t stand it anymore and I got rid of it. I picked up a 2020 Model S which is an absolutely amazing vehicle in terms of ride quality(I hated the 2017 Model S the 2020 is much better) But there were updated to the Model 3 with Elon Musk saying that the new models are quieter and the introduction of laminated glass on the 3 and Y I decided to go down to my nearest service center an took the 2020 Model 3 LR and 2020 Model Y LR for a test drive both were with the base wheels (18 and 19 respectively) and I tried 3 different PSI levels 42 39 35. I know 35 PSI seems low but I was desperate to try and make the suspension livable it was not possible. So compared to the 2019 Model 3 with 19 Sport wheels the 2020 Model 3 with Aero wheels did not feel much different. It felt a little bit softer on perfect asphalt pavement but on the crappy freeway between LAX and UCLA(the 405) both suspensions felt the same. The Model Y was actually a bit better. It was not a great ride I would compare it to something like a Honda CR-V not even close to what an Audi Q5 or a BMW X3 feels like but maybe due to the increased ride height it was less harsh than both the Model 3s. If I had to pick I would pick the Model Y but neither cars have good ride quality. In terms of cabin noise there was barely any difference. From my observation my 2019 Model 3 was actually a gem of a model 3 for its time it was built properly with properly aligned seals on the doors and what not which was likely why the door seals and roof seals made no difference to me. The 2020 is not any better. The same amount of wind noise and the same amount of road noise entered the cabin. However the difference was that I could hear less of the cars next to me. It wasn t a huge amount but it was a little bit better. The Model Y was worse I felt like there was even more noise in the Model Y with some kind of low pitched hum which made my ears hurt and it was not a pleasant ride. So my conclusion is that whoever had an older model 3 or y there is not much of an improvement in ride quality or cabin noise its just as bad so you re not missing out on much. One of the reasons I was more hopeful for the 2020 Model 3 and Y was because of my experience with the Model S. I tried the 2017 Model S and I absolutely hated it. It was loud and the suspension for an air suspension was quite terrible. But I ended up picking up the 2020 Model S because it was just so much better. The suspension was actually comparable to an Air Suspension setup from Mercedes and the cabin noise was very similar to a 2015 S-Class. the 2020 Model S was such a huge improvement from the 2017 Model S that I was immediately sold on the 2020 Model S its a fantastic car. Model 3 and Y not so much. I was expecting similar levels of improvement from a older production to the latest production. | I tell people my P3D- is one of the quietest cars below 45mph. And it s one of the noisiest cars Above 55mph. | Was this a 2020 model 3 or the 2021 with double paned glass? | 61 | 6 | 7,727 |
jwl6jc | 46 | Rather horrific Model S wreck late on 17th Nov 2020 (minor injuries only) in Corvallis Oregon results in batteries strewn across wide area breaking nearby homes windows starting one small fire. Serious testament to survivability. (Looks like a Model 3 police release says Model S) ...the suspect was driving eastbound on NW Walnut Blvd in excess of 100 mph in a 2019 Tesla S when he lost control and left the roadway and traveled in excess of 300 feet before coming to a rest. The vehicle was destroyed after shearing a power pole off at the base as well as striking and knocking over two trees and a telephone junction box. The damage from the collision caused the batteries from the Tesla to enter two different residences by breaking through the windows one landing on a person s lap and the second landing on a bed catching the bedding on fire. A tire was ripped from the car during the collision and struck the second story siding of a nearby apartment complex with such force that it ruptured the water pipes within the wall destroying the bathroom to the apartment and flooding the downstairs portion of the apartment as well. [https: www.facebook.com CorvallisPoliceDepartment posts 1980910832052126](https: www.facebook.com CorvallisPoliceDepartment posts 1980910832052126) | AP wasn t on if he was in excess of 100 mph. He was under the influence as well. I think the most amazing thing about this is that the dude survived after all that he hit. | The suspect fled on foot and was located approximately three blocks away. He was transported to Hospital with minor injuries. Upon evaluation it was determined xxx was impaired by marijuana. xxx was cited at the hospital for DUII - Drugs Hit and Run Criminal Mischief 2 Reckless Driving and Reckless Endangering. | 46 | 3 | 7,728 |
jwl6jc | 46 | Rather horrific Model S wreck late on 17th Nov 2020 (minor injuries only) in Corvallis Oregon results in batteries strewn across wide area breaking nearby homes windows starting one small fire. Serious testament to survivability. (Looks like a Model 3 police release says Model S) ...the suspect was driving eastbound on NW Walnut Blvd in excess of 100 mph in a 2019 Tesla S when he lost control and left the roadway and traveled in excess of 300 feet before coming to a rest. The vehicle was destroyed after shearing a power pole off at the base as well as striking and knocking over two trees and a telephone junction box. The damage from the collision caused the batteries from the Tesla to enter two different residences by breaking through the windows one landing on a person s lap and the second landing on a bed catching the bedding on fire. A tire was ripped from the car during the collision and struck the second story siding of a nearby apartment complex with such force that it ruptured the water pipes within the wall destroying the bathroom to the apartment and flooding the downstairs portion of the apartment as well. [https: www.facebook.com CorvallisPoliceDepartment posts 1980910832052126](https: www.facebook.com CorvallisPoliceDepartment posts 1980910832052126) | in excess of 100 mph Autopilot lost control Sniff test: failed | The suspect fled on foot and was located approximately three blocks away. He was transported to Hospital with minor injuries. Upon evaluation it was determined xxx was impaired by marijuana. xxx was cited at the hospital for DUII - Drugs Hit and Run Criminal Mischief 2 Reckless Driving and Reckless Endangering. | 44 | 3 | 7,729 |
jwl6jc | 46 | Rather horrific Model S wreck late on 17th Nov 2020 (minor injuries only) in Corvallis Oregon results in batteries strewn across wide area breaking nearby homes windows starting one small fire. Serious testament to survivability. (Looks like a Model 3 police release says Model S) ...the suspect was driving eastbound on NW Walnut Blvd in excess of 100 mph in a 2019 Tesla S when he lost control and left the roadway and traveled in excess of 300 feet before coming to a rest. The vehicle was destroyed after shearing a power pole off at the base as well as striking and knocking over two trees and a telephone junction box. The damage from the collision caused the batteries from the Tesla to enter two different residences by breaking through the windows one landing on a person s lap and the second landing on a bed catching the bedding on fire. A tire was ripped from the car during the collision and struck the second story siding of a nearby apartment complex with such force that it ruptured the water pipes within the wall destroying the bathroom to the apartment and flooding the downstairs portion of the apartment as well. [https: www.facebook.com CorvallisPoliceDepartment posts 1980910832052126](https: www.facebook.com CorvallisPoliceDepartment posts 1980910832052126) | AP wasn t on if he was in excess of 100 mph. He was under the influence as well. I think the most amazing thing about this is that the dude survived after all that he hit. | Play stupid games win stupid prizes. | 46 | 7 | 7,730 |
jx9dzg | 968 | ***UPDATE*** Out of Warranty Subframe Crack After discussing the situation with everyone who commented on the previous post and presenting the argument to Tesla service they goodwilled the fix. Just wanted everyone to know that Tesla did right here! I just want to be clear - this car is amazing but has been riddled with quality issues. I understand that early adoption comes with some risks. However how the company addresses those quality issues says a lot about them. The service dept. listened to my argument and were really understanding. No confrontational attitude like some mechanic shops. In the previous post someone asked me if I still loved my Tesla and my answer was yes. Even before they goodwilled the fix. I am even happier now. | I have always found that Tesla Customer Service is amazing once you are able to get it. Most complaints are on the fact that you can rarely get a hold of customer service to begin with. | Glad to hear it worked out for you. When I bought my Tesla M3 there was some small (& noted)paint damage on the bumper. Took them a while but they took very good care of the issue as well. | 219 | 2 | 7,731 |
jx9dzg | 968 | ***UPDATE*** Out of Warranty Subframe Crack After discussing the situation with everyone who commented on the previous post and presenting the argument to Tesla service they goodwilled the fix. Just wanted everyone to know that Tesla did right here! I just want to be clear - this car is amazing but has been riddled with quality issues. I understand that early adoption comes with some risks. However how the company addresses those quality issues says a lot about them. The service dept. listened to my argument and were really understanding. No confrontational attitude like some mechanic shops. In the previous post someone asked me if I still loved my Tesla and my answer was yes. Even before they goodwilled the fix. I am even happier now. | I have always found that Tesla Customer Service is amazing once you are able to get it. Most complaints are on the fact that you can rarely get a hold of customer service to begin with. | That is awesome to hear - not only for you (and your baby) but because Tesla did the right thing here. | 219 | 6 | 7,732 |
jx9dzg | 968 | ***UPDATE*** Out of Warranty Subframe Crack After discussing the situation with everyone who commented on the previous post and presenting the argument to Tesla service they goodwilled the fix. Just wanted everyone to know that Tesla did right here! I just want to be clear - this car is amazing but has been riddled with quality issues. I understand that early adoption comes with some risks. However how the company addresses those quality issues says a lot about them. The service dept. listened to my argument and were really understanding. No confrontational attitude like some mechanic shops. In the previous post someone asked me if I still loved my Tesla and my answer was yes. Even before they goodwilled the fix. I am even happier now. | I have always found that Tesla Customer Service is amazing once you are able to get it. Most complaints are on the fact that you can rarely get a hold of customer service to begin with. | Congrats! Happy things worked out for you... | 219 | 16 | 7,733 |
jxl5op | 62 | PSA: Notes on the functionality of all Theater Arcade apps First some background: A few days ago I tried out 2048 for the first time and when I was done I noticed the dashcam was still going. It hadn t been disabled during play and didn t take about 15 seconds to come back as it would with the app I most often used Youtube. Since I couldn t find any information about the apps behavior online I decided to take it upon myself to test out every app and document my findings. While I was at it I tested out all control options for all the games. The findings: \\-All of the media apps disable it. \\-Cuphead Beach Buggy Racing Stardew Valley and Fallout Shelter also disable dashcam. \\-All Atari games keep the dashcam running \\-Chess 2048 and Backgammon all keep the dashcam running and also keep your music playing. Since I had to use every game to test this I also took some notes on what the actual experience was like with the various control methods. \\-Stardew Valley has controller support but it s not complete. You can t navigate the title menu with a controller but the A button is recognized. (I didn t have an existing save so it defaulted to New Game IDK if it would default to Load Game if I did) \\-All Atari games lack D-Pad support \\-For Atari games with wheel support: Make sure the wheel is centered before trying to play with controller. The wheel is always active so it will be constantly inputting a direction if it isn t centered. \\-Tempest: The rebound from letting go of the stick would move me (This might just be my controller though Xbox One X launch controller) making play difficult as wheel tilt control is to imprecise and scroll wheel is too slow. \\-Super Breakout: The analogue stick is mapped as an absolute position meaning when you let go of it the paddle returns to the center. Some may like this but personally I found it more difficult then just using my finger on the touchscreen. \\-Centipede Millipede: Touch controls work well but you re always firing which can be suboptimal. Wheel controls don t have that problem but moving is much more difficult. I d go with touch if not controller \\-Missile Command: Your 3 missile stacks are mapped to X A B for controller and the scroll wheel press directions for touch. (You can also just touch the stacks but this is very cumbersome \\-Gravatar Lunar Lander: Touch controls are available (Swipe left right to rotate one finger up to boost two for alternative action) but aren t very responsive. Highly recommend wheel control over touch for these two. And that s about everything of note I found. I hope someone finds this useful interesting. | Fun fact I used the Asteroids game as a means of proving to Tesla that my steering wheel wasn t aligned straight. I aligned the wheel put the game on and it went bonkers until I centered it on where it thought center was. They eventually figured out and fixed the issue. | Nice! | 42 | 2 | 7,734 |
jxl5op | 62 | PSA: Notes on the functionality of all Theater Arcade apps First some background: A few days ago I tried out 2048 for the first time and when I was done I noticed the dashcam was still going. It hadn t been disabled during play and didn t take about 15 seconds to come back as it would with the app I most often used Youtube. Since I couldn t find any information about the apps behavior online I decided to take it upon myself to test out every app and document my findings. While I was at it I tested out all control options for all the games. The findings: \\-All of the media apps disable it. \\-Cuphead Beach Buggy Racing Stardew Valley and Fallout Shelter also disable dashcam. \\-All Atari games keep the dashcam running \\-Chess 2048 and Backgammon all keep the dashcam running and also keep your music playing. Since I had to use every game to test this I also took some notes on what the actual experience was like with the various control methods. \\-Stardew Valley has controller support but it s not complete. You can t navigate the title menu with a controller but the A button is recognized. (I didn t have an existing save so it defaulted to New Game IDK if it would default to Load Game if I did) \\-All Atari games lack D-Pad support \\-For Atari games with wheel support: Make sure the wheel is centered before trying to play with controller. The wheel is always active so it will be constantly inputting a direction if it isn t centered. \\-Tempest: The rebound from letting go of the stick would move me (This might just be my controller though Xbox One X launch controller) making play difficult as wheel tilt control is to imprecise and scroll wheel is too slow. \\-Super Breakout: The analogue stick is mapped as an absolute position meaning when you let go of it the paddle returns to the center. Some may like this but personally I found it more difficult then just using my finger on the touchscreen. \\-Centipede Millipede: Touch controls work well but you re always firing which can be suboptimal. Wheel controls don t have that problem but moving is much more difficult. I d go with touch if not controller \\-Missile Command: Your 3 missile stacks are mapped to X A B for controller and the scroll wheel press directions for touch. (You can also just touch the stacks but this is very cumbersome \\-Gravatar Lunar Lander: Touch controls are available (Swipe left right to rotate one finger up to boost two for alternative action) but aren t very responsive. Highly recommend wheel control over touch for these two. And that s about everything of note I found. I hope someone finds this useful interesting. | Fun fact I used the Asteroids game as a means of proving to Tesla that my steering wheel wasn t aligned straight. I aligned the wheel put the game on and it went bonkers until I centered it on where it thought center was. They eventually figured out and fixed the issue. | Not the hero we deserve but the hero we needed. Thank you! | 42 | 3 | 7,735 |
jysch5 | 440 | Had an interesting interaction at a supercharger. I was chilling in my car enjoying the night air (I had the whole 16 stall sc to myself) when I see a VW e-Golf come rolling up 4 stalls down and I m thinking to myself this jerk is going to park here and walk away thinking this is EV parking. Then I see this kid maybe 20-23 pull the charger off the port and try and reach his car now I m thinking please don t somehow get that connected because I don t want to see a VW burst into flames because this is a 150kw dc that will fry this poor car. So I get out off my car and walk over and politely inform him that Tesla has a proprietary charger and this will not fit now his girlfriend about the same age said when they picked up the used car (paper tags so fairly recent) the dealer said they can charge at Tesla and get a full charge in 45 minutes. I spent about 10 minutes saying how wrong this is and giving advice about plugshare chargepoint and various other apps websites. They said that the time I spent educating them was the most information they have gotten since they purchased their car. I even saved them from buying a near $500 level 2 hard mount and showed them a mobile charger for about $170 and now they know what to look for to find a better price later. TL DR some kid almost fried a VW and left with more EV knowledge. Edit1: This happened in Phoenix AZ Edit2: Thank you everyone for correcting me about the VW combustion I was not completely aware of the handshake and am willing to admit where I m wrong and glad to have the support of this community to correct this knowledge and that this other car still could benefit from the charge IF it did connect somehow and was not locked by Tesla. All(most) of you have been great at informing me like I tried to help this young owner so kudos to all(most) of you also! | That was nice of you. But his car wouldnt have been fried the plug wouldnt have fit. And even if it had the electronic handshake between car and charger would have detected it was not a Tesla and it wouldnt have turned on the juice. | It has worked in europe previously and it became a thing. It was patched by Tesla to not work recently. They would have been fine but they would be stealing of course | 373 | 28 | 7,736 |
jysch5 | 440 | Had an interesting interaction at a supercharger. I was chilling in my car enjoying the night air (I had the whole 16 stall sc to myself) when I see a VW e-Golf come rolling up 4 stalls down and I m thinking to myself this jerk is going to park here and walk away thinking this is EV parking. Then I see this kid maybe 20-23 pull the charger off the port and try and reach his car now I m thinking please don t somehow get that connected because I don t want to see a VW burst into flames because this is a 150kw dc that will fry this poor car. So I get out off my car and walk over and politely inform him that Tesla has a proprietary charger and this will not fit now his girlfriend about the same age said when they picked up the used car (paper tags so fairly recent) the dealer said they can charge at Tesla and get a full charge in 45 minutes. I spent about 10 minutes saying how wrong this is and giving advice about plugshare chargepoint and various other apps websites. They said that the time I spent educating them was the most information they have gotten since they purchased their car. I even saved them from buying a near $500 level 2 hard mount and showed them a mobile charger for about $170 and now they know what to look for to find a better price later. TL DR some kid almost fried a VW and left with more EV knowledge. Edit1: This happened in Phoenix AZ Edit2: Thank you everyone for correcting me about the VW combustion I was not completely aware of the handshake and am willing to admit where I m wrong and glad to have the support of this community to correct this knowledge and that this other car still could benefit from the charge IF it did connect somehow and was not locked by Tesla. All(most) of you have been great at informing me like I tried to help this young owner so kudos to all(most) of you also! | That was nice of you. But his car wouldnt have been fried the plug wouldnt have fit. And even if it had the electronic handshake between car and charger would have detected it was not a Tesla and it wouldnt have turned on the juice. | > I don t want to see a VW burst into flames because this is a 150kw dc that will fry this poor car. handshake will likely prevent that. huge design oversight otherwise. | 373 | 30 | 7,737 |
jysch5 | 440 | Had an interesting interaction at a supercharger. I was chilling in my car enjoying the night air (I had the whole 16 stall sc to myself) when I see a VW e-Golf come rolling up 4 stalls down and I m thinking to myself this jerk is going to park here and walk away thinking this is EV parking. Then I see this kid maybe 20-23 pull the charger off the port and try and reach his car now I m thinking please don t somehow get that connected because I don t want to see a VW burst into flames because this is a 150kw dc that will fry this poor car. So I get out off my car and walk over and politely inform him that Tesla has a proprietary charger and this will not fit now his girlfriend about the same age said when they picked up the used car (paper tags so fairly recent) the dealer said they can charge at Tesla and get a full charge in 45 minutes. I spent about 10 minutes saying how wrong this is and giving advice about plugshare chargepoint and various other apps websites. They said that the time I spent educating them was the most information they have gotten since they purchased their car. I even saved them from buying a near $500 level 2 hard mount and showed them a mobile charger for about $170 and now they know what to look for to find a better price later. TL DR some kid almost fried a VW and left with more EV knowledge. Edit1: This happened in Phoenix AZ Edit2: Thank you everyone for correcting me about the VW combustion I was not completely aware of the handshake and am willing to admit where I m wrong and glad to have the support of this community to correct this knowledge and that this other car still could benefit from the charge IF it did connect somehow and was not locked by Tesla. All(most) of you have been great at informing me like I tried to help this young owner so kudos to all(most) of you also! | It s concerning to me that people are making large purchases like this without doing independent research. People have the whole internet in their pocket and can t be bothered to google. The worst part is getting information and believing without first verifying a biased source that only wants to sell their car. | Thanks for sharing! Good thing helping hapless young uniformed VW driver! | 159 | 2 | 7,738 |
k0dcld | 124 | Testing Autopilot FSD s ability to drive blind - Sofware Status [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=77cbSy-rBEQ](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=77cbSy-rBEQ) I just found this really interesting video that shows FSD s performance covering different cameras. This answered many of the questions I had about how FSD works and which is the current status of it. So here are my conclusions: & #x200B * **FSD is clearly using maps to drive.** When Stop at red light or Stop at Stop sign were introduced the general consensus was that the car knew moreless where a traffic light was and the cameras started to look for it. With the curbs (or basically most of the things we see in the UI) its exactly the same. When the map is telling the car that a curb is somewhere near in the left the red dots oscilate randomly until the side camera detects it and fixes the red dots. This is why even if all the cameras are covered in the video the car still sees something. What can be seen is just the map data. * **Side cameras are barely used right now.** The car is able to drive in intersections even if the side cameras are covered. This can mean 2 things: the car is using only the wide frontal lense to detect cross traffic (with its obvious angle limitations) even when having all the cameras operational OR the sofware uses the side cameras to detect cars in intersections but it does not care if you cover them and can t see anything because it will continue driving. In both cases this is really dangerous. * **As Greentheonly pointed out in the past he did not see any 4D NN in the code yet.** So here is my take. The difference between Autopilot and the current FSD software resides in 2 improvements: 1. Pixel triangulation NN was added for detection. As Karphaty said they are able to detect with accuracy the curbs in the horizon by checking where a pixel is going to appear in the next frame. They applied this to every object and improved the visualisation dramatically. But I seriously think that the 4D is still in the works and not implemented in the current software. 2. Much better driving policy path finding + features. They hard coded in C++ all the features we are seeing right now like intersections roundabouts...but I guess they rushed it to meet Elon´s deadlines because it clearly needs a lot of work to be safe . * **Driving more miles in your car will not make the software better instanly.** I think this is a common misconception. I read many people claim that every time you intervene the car the software is learning automatically. And I highly doubt this is true. If the car took a wrong decision it can be because the detection was not correct because the map data does not correspond to the vision detection and therefore the car doesn t know what to do or the hard coded path finding has bugs or mistakes. This means that Tesla AI engineers are probably checking every FSD intervention manually and sorting every mistake by type so that they can later change the code or adjust train the vision NN for better detection. But just be aware of all the hard work that requires making the car drive better. I just wanted to add my perspective of the current status of FSD software and point out that I am both excited and dissapointed. Excited because I believe cameras are enough for L4 L5 and Tesla is doing great progress but dissapointed at the same time because they are barely entering the world of the NN and they will still need a lot of time to reprogramm all their FSD software . Feel free to comment if you agree or not. | Those turns going through without side cameras available is definitely unsafe. & #x200B It is definitely not the case that features like stopping at stoplights rely entirely on map data. There have been several videos of people demonstrating that the car will stop for an unmapped intersection or even a person manually holding a stop sign in the middle of a dirt road. I ve even tested this myself with some sandwich board stop signs placed at a construction site near me. I also very much doubt that there is any curb data in the map data. I find it much more likely that the video maker just failed to cover the cameras adequately. This would be trivial to test just by driving on a road that doesn t appear on the maps or just make your own in a field somewhere. I think the red dots oscillating randomly is just the car guessing from incomplete data + some overfitting in the NN model. If the NN that is working to see road edges has only (or even mostly) been trained on images that do have some road in them it ll make its best guess to put road edges in even a pure black image. Kinda like the old if all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail saying. Correct me if I m wrong but Green hasn t gotten his hands on any of the code for the FSD beta so his comments on the 4D networks not being in there only mean it s not currently in the public build. Please give me a link if I m wrong about this I d like to see what he has to say. | I also want to point out that Elon never directly stated that the 4D rewrite is being used in the FSD Beta. He was alluding to that before the Beta was released but never actually confirmed that to be the case. Unless I missed that tweet? | 73 | 5 | 7,739 |
k0dcld | 124 | Testing Autopilot FSD s ability to drive blind - Sofware Status [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=77cbSy-rBEQ](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=77cbSy-rBEQ) I just found this really interesting video that shows FSD s performance covering different cameras. This answered many of the questions I had about how FSD works and which is the current status of it. So here are my conclusions: & #x200B * **FSD is clearly using maps to drive.** When Stop at red light or Stop at Stop sign were introduced the general consensus was that the car knew moreless where a traffic light was and the cameras started to look for it. With the curbs (or basically most of the things we see in the UI) its exactly the same. When the map is telling the car that a curb is somewhere near in the left the red dots oscilate randomly until the side camera detects it and fixes the red dots. This is why even if all the cameras are covered in the video the car still sees something. What can be seen is just the map data. * **Side cameras are barely used right now.** The car is able to drive in intersections even if the side cameras are covered. This can mean 2 things: the car is using only the wide frontal lense to detect cross traffic (with its obvious angle limitations) even when having all the cameras operational OR the sofware uses the side cameras to detect cars in intersections but it does not care if you cover them and can t see anything because it will continue driving. In both cases this is really dangerous. * **As Greentheonly pointed out in the past he did not see any 4D NN in the code yet.** So here is my take. The difference between Autopilot and the current FSD software resides in 2 improvements: 1. Pixel triangulation NN was added for detection. As Karphaty said they are able to detect with accuracy the curbs in the horizon by checking where a pixel is going to appear in the next frame. They applied this to every object and improved the visualisation dramatically. But I seriously think that the 4D is still in the works and not implemented in the current software. 2. Much better driving policy path finding + features. They hard coded in C++ all the features we are seeing right now like intersections roundabouts...but I guess they rushed it to meet Elon´s deadlines because it clearly needs a lot of work to be safe . * **Driving more miles in your car will not make the software better instanly.** I think this is a common misconception. I read many people claim that every time you intervene the car the software is learning automatically. And I highly doubt this is true. If the car took a wrong decision it can be because the detection was not correct because the map data does not correspond to the vision detection and therefore the car doesn t know what to do or the hard coded path finding has bugs or mistakes. This means that Tesla AI engineers are probably checking every FSD intervention manually and sorting every mistake by type so that they can later change the code or adjust train the vision NN for better detection. But just be aware of all the hard work that requires making the car drive better. I just wanted to add my perspective of the current status of FSD software and point out that I am both excited and dissapointed. Excited because I believe cameras are enough for L4 L5 and Tesla is doing great progress but dissapointed at the same time because they are barely entering the world of the NN and they will still need a lot of time to reprogramm all their FSD software . Feel free to comment if you agree or not. | Those turns going through without side cameras available is definitely unsafe. & #x200B It is definitely not the case that features like stopping at stoplights rely entirely on map data. There have been several videos of people demonstrating that the car will stop for an unmapped intersection or even a person manually holding a stop sign in the middle of a dirt road. I ve even tested this myself with some sandwich board stop signs placed at a construction site near me. I also very much doubt that there is any curb data in the map data. I find it much more likely that the video maker just failed to cover the cameras adequately. This would be trivial to test just by driving on a road that doesn t appear on the maps or just make your own in a field somewhere. I think the red dots oscillating randomly is just the car guessing from incomplete data + some overfitting in the NN model. If the NN that is working to see road edges has only (or even mostly) been trained on images that do have some road in them it ll make its best guess to put road edges in even a pure black image. Kinda like the old if all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail saying. Correct me if I m wrong but Green hasn t gotten his hands on any of the code for the FSD beta so his comments on the 4D networks not being in there only mean it s not currently in the public build. Please give me a link if I m wrong about this I d like to see what he has to say. | **Side cameras are barely used right now** I agree with a lot of what you wrote but you can t come to this conclusion based on the fact that autopilot (FSD beta) will attempt to still work with said cameras disabled. Do you see the logical fallacy? Also I thought Green restated his 4D NN comment later but can t specifically remember. Yes I believe they are using conventional coding for most of the driving policy which is a current weak spot and won t change until they build Dojo and prove that an end-to-end NN can work for this type of application. | 73 | 35 | 7,740 |
k0gi0b | 79 | Does anyone else think FSD beta still has a long way to go before a wide release? I ve been watching videos from YouTubers and I frequently see the car making some errors that would result in crashes if the driver doesn t take over quickly. [Here s](https: youtu.be 4I_1a8yYLVA?t=972) one quick example but it is not hard to find many more. The people who are using the release are all conscious of and very active in maintaining control of the vehicle right now. But I think if this gets released to the public it could cause a large amount of small accidents. Does anyone else agree? Or will the public be more aware than I m going them credit for? | I think it s got quite a bit to go before it should be in a lot of hands but I will say that I would give the public a little bit more benefit just a little because most people are driving their own vehicles that they don t want to crash and they still assume liability. But we know accidents are going to happen and we know NHTSA and others are closely monitoring things. | I hope your wrong but think you might be right. Let s chat after beta 5 is released- we ve seen huge leaps in progress just in the last month. | 63 | 22 | 7,741 |
k0gi0b | 79 | Does anyone else think FSD beta still has a long way to go before a wide release? I ve been watching videos from YouTubers and I frequently see the car making some errors that would result in crashes if the driver doesn t take over quickly. [Here s](https: youtu.be 4I_1a8yYLVA?t=972) one quick example but it is not hard to find many more. The people who are using the release are all conscious of and very active in maintaining control of the vehicle right now. But I think if this gets released to the public it could cause a large amount of small accidents. Does anyone else agree? Or will the public be more aware than I m going them credit for? | Not sure what you are talking about. Elon said we are going to see Tesla go coast to coast with no human intervention by 2018. | It depends on how gradually its features implemented. The present autopilot has various settings that can be toggled on and off. I can see something like Change speeds automatically on all roads based on speed limit. being implemented as one toggle. After that it gets a bit dodgy as to how pieces of the FSD beta could be implemented separately unless navigation itself has additional features added like avoid rotaries avoid train crossings etc.. I m not sure after watching that video (which I d seen previously) where the unsafe decisions are that would have resulted in crashes. | 40 | 3 | 7,742 |
k0gi0b | 79 | Does anyone else think FSD beta still has a long way to go before a wide release? I ve been watching videos from YouTubers and I frequently see the car making some errors that would result in crashes if the driver doesn t take over quickly. [Here s](https: youtu.be 4I_1a8yYLVA?t=972) one quick example but it is not hard to find many more. The people who are using the release are all conscious of and very active in maintaining control of the vehicle right now. But I think if this gets released to the public it could cause a large amount of small accidents. Does anyone else agree? Or will the public be more aware than I m going them credit for? | Not sure what you are talking about. Elon said we are going to see Tesla go coast to coast with no human intervention by 2018. | Yes. Still waiting to see it deal with proper winter. I think it s going to be a challenge. | 40 | 3 | 7,743 |
k0hvx4 | 33 | Teenage Driver Mode? When my kiddo is old enough to drive I will likely need to let him borrow the Tesla now and then. HOWEVER even the slowest Tesla is still a rocket ship. If he s anything like me when I was 16 there s likely no way in hell he d be able to resist the siren s song of rocketing from 0 to 60 in under 4 seconds... Other than Valet Mode which seems to limit access to too many features is there a way to lock my Tesla into Chill Mode? My searches have not produced an answer but perhaps there s something I ve not stumbled upon. I have a loaner car right now that is locked into Chill Mode and it would be great if I had some sort of parental means to do the same. Thank you! | Mac speed mode locks chill mode too afaik. | Yes you can set a max speed | 38 | 9 | 7,744 |
k0hvx4 | 33 | Teenage Driver Mode? When my kiddo is old enough to drive I will likely need to let him borrow the Tesla now and then. HOWEVER even the slowest Tesla is still a rocket ship. If he s anything like me when I was 16 there s likely no way in hell he d be able to resist the siren s song of rocketing from 0 to 60 in under 4 seconds... Other than Valet Mode which seems to limit access to too many features is there a way to lock my Tesla into Chill Mode? My searches have not produced an answer but perhaps there s something I ve not stumbled upon. I have a loaner car right now that is locked into Chill Mode and it would be great if I had some sort of parental means to do the same. Thank you! | I set my ‘14 mS to 70 mph max and that also puts in chill mode for my 18 yo. (From the app on the phone) | Yes you can set a max speed | 35 | 9 | 7,745 |
k16j9w | 29 | Is it just me or is the refresh of the Model 3 center console just...ugly? I ve been a huge fan of the glossy and highly customizable older center console but after looking at the new ones installed in the 2021 models...it looks like a downgrade. Like where was the thought and design process...It just looks bland. I d also like for my phone to be out of sight so I don t keep looking at it every time I get a notification (yes I know it s my human behavior but c mon this is everyone else too). I just wished they put more time and effort into making it a worthy update in design and functionality. This is just my opinion as I m frustrated with the new design. | I agree. I like the old desgin. Then again I also love the chrome. It s all preference but I like the older desgin better. I would just like a power trunk and heat pump. | It s you. I m a Model S owner and I hated the center console never bought it (as an upgrade) and thought it was a shit design and something they fucked up big on the Model 3. People were going ham on the center console vinyl wrap. If people are covering up something it means it s ugly. Edit (as an upgrade) | 60 | 20 | 7,746 |
k16j9w | 29 | Is it just me or is the refresh of the Model 3 center console just...ugly? I ve been a huge fan of the glossy and highly customizable older center console but after looking at the new ones installed in the 2021 models...it looks like a downgrade. Like where was the thought and design process...It just looks bland. I d also like for my phone to be out of sight so I don t keep looking at it every time I get a notification (yes I know it s my human behavior but c mon this is everyone else too). I just wished they put more time and effort into making it a worthy update in design and functionality. This is just my opinion as I m frustrated with the new design. | I would like the old design with a different finish but that s just me. | Maybe the center console “upgrade” was a cost cutting effort? | 35 | 5 | 7,747 |
k29os6 | 66 | With the new rewrite do you think FSD is now worth it? It s not an unpopular opinion that a lot of people here don t think FSD is worth it with it s current price of $10K. People didn t think it was worth it at $5K either. Now Tesla is rewriting FSD to make it better and pushing it to the next level of automated driving based on what we ve seen in the FSD beta videos. When the new FSD is released it will for sure have another price bump. Elon said he will introduce a subscription service but also said it will be economicly better to buy it full price right now. Also with the way tesla has been doing things it looks like all future features and updates to autopilot will be exclusive to FSD rather thank basic AP unless it s an improvement to the autopilot cameras. With the new FSD rewrite and way tesla is moving things with FSD do you know think the $10K price tag is finally justified worth it? | Always ask yourself: Would you like to get a $10 000 discount if all you had to do was change lanes and take exits on your own? AP can do most of your long trips. FSD is a difficult sell. | Some people will never be happy. | 134 | 2 | 7,748 |
k29os6 | 66 | With the new rewrite do you think FSD is now worth it? It s not an unpopular opinion that a lot of people here don t think FSD is worth it with it s current price of $10K. People didn t think it was worth it at $5K either. Now Tesla is rewriting FSD to make it better and pushing it to the next level of automated driving based on what we ve seen in the FSD beta videos. When the new FSD is released it will for sure have another price bump. Elon said he will introduce a subscription service but also said it will be economicly better to buy it full price right now. Also with the way tesla has been doing things it looks like all future features and updates to autopilot will be exclusive to FSD rather thank basic AP unless it s an improvement to the autopilot cameras. With the new FSD rewrite and way tesla is moving things with FSD do you know think the $10K price tag is finally justified worth it? | Always ask yourself: Would you like to get a $10 000 discount if all you had to do was change lanes and take exits on your own? AP can do most of your long trips. FSD is a difficult sell. | Depending on some people s journeys the current FSD beta based on the videos we ve seen so far could possibly get them to work and home with little to no interventions. No other manufacturer is close to that other than as a service in certain areas. The fact that automatic lane keeping only on other premium cars will set you back about 4 grand it s a high price but not crazily so. | 134 | 3 | 7,749 |
k29os6 | 66 | With the new rewrite do you think FSD is now worth it? It s not an unpopular opinion that a lot of people here don t think FSD is worth it with it s current price of $10K. People didn t think it was worth it at $5K either. Now Tesla is rewriting FSD to make it better and pushing it to the next level of automated driving based on what we ve seen in the FSD beta videos. When the new FSD is released it will for sure have another price bump. Elon said he will introduce a subscription service but also said it will be economicly better to buy it full price right now. Also with the way tesla has been doing things it looks like all future features and updates to autopilot will be exclusive to FSD rather thank basic AP unless it s an improvement to the autopilot cameras. With the new FSD rewrite and way tesla is moving things with FSD do you know think the $10K price tag is finally justified worth it? | Always ask yourself: Would you like to get a $10 000 discount if all you had to do was change lanes and take exits on your own? AP can do most of your long trips. FSD is a difficult sell. | Without the support and fate Tesla owners have in this program. This won t be as far as it is today. | 134 | 3 | 7,750 |
k3ed85 | 24 | How much max battery capacity should still possible after 2.5 years 22 000 miles? My tesla Model 3 long range battery is only charging to 304 miles. We tried running it down to 34 miles before fully charging but it still only gets to 304. We rarely ever use superchargers maybe 4-6 times a year. We charge with a slow 20mph charger and never above 89% and normally never get below 90 miles. Is this level of battery loss expected? | Switch to percentage view and *forget around that EPA estimate*. Forgetting to pre-conditioning the car battery before departure driving over the speed-limit and burning other cars off at every set of traffic lights is what *actually* will eat the battery—and those are all under the driver s control. | Don t take what it says as absolute gospel. It can vary by a dozen miles easily. | 65 | 3 | 7,751 |
k3jv44 | 74 | My thoughts after the first weekend with my Model 3 Greetings! So I picked up my 2021 Model 3 in Mannheim Germany on Friday 27 November. [https: www.reddit.com r TeslaModel3 comments k2674h so\\_i\\_bought\\_the\\_thing\\_2021\\_lr ](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaModel3 comments k2674h so_i_bought_the_thing_2021_lr ) & #x200B After about 3 days and 500 kilometers I d like to share my thoughts. Pickup was pretty painless. My appointment got moved from Saturday to Friday because they wanted to limit the number of people at the dealership at any one time. No problem for me I had everything pre-registered. I signed the paperwork and did a little inspection. Took me about 20 minutes to check everything. Outside looked good no issue with panel gaps or anything like that. Doors windows trunk frunk all good. I believed the wireless charging pad didn t work only to discover my phone does not support wireless charging. And it has summer tires so I gotta address that soon. I was thinking they would be all-seasons. Oh well. First ride: Holy shit! I ve never owned a performance car so I most definitely wasn t used to the acceleration. Those dual motors can *go.* I had some business is Kaiserslautern about 60-70km figured that would be a good test of the overall ride energy consumption and so on. I got the car with about 65% battery and got to the supercharger in the city at about 44%. I was pushing a little faster than I normally would about 130 km h on the highways I d normally average about 115-120. Charging from 42% to 90% took about 35 minutes...once I found a working charger. I was a little more conservative on the trip back only used about 17% of the battery instead of 22%. Looking right for your information will take some getting used to. On Saturday the wife and I went to a mall nearby. She loved the car. Seats are comfy sound system is great. The mall had a charging area. So we took advantage while shopping. I had her drive back. She likes the car s power as well. On Sunday the problems came. I don t have home charging yet so I drove out to town to charge up. Autopilot doesn t work because the left camera is unavailable . I ve heard this usually fixes itself over time. So it was no big deal for me. I don t have FSD and probably won t use autopilot much anyway. The biggest problem was that ***I don t have heat in the cabin!!*** Perhaps I should be lucky that the temperatures are only a few degrees below freezing but damn! I drove to Ramstein to see family and it is not a fun drive with no heat. The earliest available appointment is Thursday and also 140kms away. I tried soft reboot hard reboot nothing. I am a few updates behind but it s slow going to update. My Wi-fi doesn t reach from the 3rd floor very well. So overall I am really liking the Model 3 my first BEV and my first new car in 14 years. But not having heat in freezing weather is a real problem. & #x200B UPDATE 30-NOV: Well the heat seems to be functioning now. I didn t do anything other than let her sit overnight and think about what she did. I ll see how the next couple of days go. | Uhhh if you buy a car and the heating doesn t work and it s literally freezing you deserve a same-day appointment and a fuckin free rental for as long as it takes to get it fixed. I would be LIVID. This is why people have lengthy checklists of issues to check upon delivery so they can refuse the car in the first place. Because apparently Tesla is so bad at making their cars actually functional in one try that this is a necessary thing. | I d love to see Tesla s analysis on using IR heating elements | 56 | 5 | 7,752 |
k3z09k | 65 | Is a Tesla model 3 a good commuter car for me? My daily commute is 84-96 miles each way. So I m putting about 1000 miles a week on my car when I only work 5 days a week. Considering gas prices wear and tear and additional costs would buy a new tesla be better than buying something else in your opinion? | That s a *monstrous* commute. My work commute was 70 miles round trip. Frankly there s no better 100-mile highway car than a Tesla. AP is absolutely brilliant for long commutes and you ll see large savings on both fuel and maintenance. And if you care there s nothing like driving 85 miles and not pressing your brake pedal ONCE. :) However you definitely want the long-range version given an 80% daily charge and any weather-associated range loss. | My commute is 64 miles round trip and my model 3 has been fantastic. I can t believe that any ICE car could be cheaper for your use case unless you re driving in extreme cold. | 37 | 2 | 7,753 |
k3z09k | 65 | Is a Tesla model 3 a good commuter car for me? My daily commute is 84-96 miles each way. So I m putting about 1000 miles a week on my car when I only work 5 days a week. Considering gas prices wear and tear and additional costs would buy a new tesla be better than buying something else in your opinion? | That s a *monstrous* commute. My work commute was 70 miles round trip. Frankly there s no better 100-mile highway car than a Tesla. AP is absolutely brilliant for long commutes and you ll see large savings on both fuel and maintenance. And if you care there s nothing like driving 85 miles and not pressing your brake pedal ONCE. :) However you definitely want the long-range version given an 80% daily charge and any weather-associated range loss. | it is for me (M3P) and i do 700-1000 km per week. 1 year in so far 38000 km no other cost than charging.. here is fyi a [page ](https: teslaorder.blogspot.com 2020 06 tesla-maintenance-intervals.html?m=1)i made to show example of « maintenance » for this car | 37 | 3 | 7,754 |
k3z09k | 65 | Is a Tesla model 3 a good commuter car for me? My daily commute is 84-96 miles each way. So I m putting about 1000 miles a week on my car when I only work 5 days a week. Considering gas prices wear and tear and additional costs would buy a new tesla be better than buying something else in your opinion? | That s a *monstrous* commute. My work commute was 70 miles round trip. Frankly there s no better 100-mile highway car than a Tesla. AP is absolutely brilliant for long commutes and you ll see large savings on both fuel and maintenance. And if you care there s nothing like driving 85 miles and not pressing your brake pedal ONCE. :) However you definitely want the long-range version given an 80% daily charge and any weather-associated range loss. | I have a similar commute and my LR Model Y kills it. I m in the mountains so when it s super cold outside you might not be able to go 85 mph but I usually drive fast and get back home with about 15-25% of battery left (starting at 90%). Costs me about $6-7 to charge after that and it would normally use about 7 gallons of gas. If you are considering the M3 GET THE LONG RANGE VERSION. | 37 | 3 | 7,755 |
k4lcke | 41 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! We re going to start consolidating feature requests into a centralized thread posted every couple of weeks to better manage requests and to get good voting and discussion of specific features. If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | Waypoints in navigation. Allow us to set multiple destinations in a route. And in the same line allow us to search on route and add something as waypoint. For example on a trip if we need a rest stop or to look for the nearest Chick Fil A on route should be able to search along route and add as waypoint. | NY drivers with the performance rims and low profile tires would love Waze for the pothole warnings but probably never happening . I m sure they got a long term licensing deal With the current navigation | 47 | 2 | 7,756 |
k4lcke | 41 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! We re going to start consolidating feature requests into a centralized thread posted every couple of weeks to better manage requests and to get good voting and discussion of specific features. If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | Birdseye camera view when parking | NY drivers with the performance rims and low profile tires would love Waze for the pothole warnings but probably never happening . I m sure they got a long term licensing deal With the current navigation | 47 | 2 | 7,757 |
k4lcke | 41 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! We re going to start consolidating feature requests into a centralized thread posted every couple of weeks to better manage requests and to get good voting and discussion of specific features. If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | Birdseye camera view when parking | Not sure if this counts as a feature but I would like to see a monthly annual subscription to Acceleration boost. | 47 | 2 | 7,758 |
k5f726 | 126 | PSA: If your stock tires wear out before their warrantied mileage call the manufacturer for a discount off your next set. My performance 3 came stock with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires which while super sticky wore out at 20k miles. They have a 30k mile warranty. A measurement and a phone call from my tire shop and got a 50% refund ($494) applied towards my new Michelins. So after a rebate I was able to get into a set of Michelin A S 3+ for about $500 out the door. Not bad. edit: Since many are asking I first opened a ticket with Michelin customer service. They pointed me to a list of approved Michelin dealers. Not every tire shop is on the list but Discount Tire and NTB definitely were on the list (NTB was where I bought my tires). | This. But listen up. As a person who worked in service at dealerships this is incredibly annoying to deal with because customers believe that the installing location should handle everything and fight the tire company for them when they do not agree with their claim. All we will do is measure the tread depth which has to be at 2 32 or lower in order to qualify for this. It s up to YOU to buy the new tires and then submit your rebate form. Then it takes upwards of 4-6 weeks to receive said refund. And even then the company or portion of the tire company that manages the refund are shite. They typically have an electronic submission form online but sometimes they ask you to fax proof in (repair order that has to EXPLICITLY state the tire tread depth). And even then I ll follow up and they ll say nothing is on file. I kind of forgot the point of this comment. Shedding light on the machinations behind this idea? Take it with a grain of salt as your individual experience will vary. | Nice good to know | 50 | 2 | 7,759 |
k5f726 | 126 | PSA: If your stock tires wear out before their warrantied mileage call the manufacturer for a discount off your next set. My performance 3 came stock with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires which while super sticky wore out at 20k miles. They have a 30k mile warranty. A measurement and a phone call from my tire shop and got a 50% refund ($494) applied towards my new Michelins. So after a rebate I was able to get into a set of Michelin A S 3+ for about $500 out the door. Not bad. edit: Since many are asking I first opened a ticket with Michelin customer service. They pointed me to a list of approved Michelin dealers. Not every tire shop is on the list but Discount Tire and NTB definitely were on the list (NTB was where I bought my tires). | This. But listen up. As a person who worked in service at dealerships this is incredibly annoying to deal with because customers believe that the installing location should handle everything and fight the tire company for them when they do not agree with their claim. All we will do is measure the tread depth which has to be at 2 32 or lower in order to qualify for this. It s up to YOU to buy the new tires and then submit your rebate form. Then it takes upwards of 4-6 weeks to receive said refund. And even then the company or portion of the tire company that manages the refund are shite. They typically have an electronic submission form online but sometimes they ask you to fax proof in (repair order that has to EXPLICITLY state the tire tread depth). And even then I ll follow up and they ll say nothing is on file. I kind of forgot the point of this comment. Shedding light on the machinations behind this idea? Take it with a grain of salt as your individual experience will vary. | Where can I find warranty information for my tires? Do I need some sort of proof of purchase? | 50 | 2 | 7,760 |
k5f726 | 126 | PSA: If your stock tires wear out before their warrantied mileage call the manufacturer for a discount off your next set. My performance 3 came stock with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires which while super sticky wore out at 20k miles. They have a 30k mile warranty. A measurement and a phone call from my tire shop and got a 50% refund ($494) applied towards my new Michelins. So after a rebate I was able to get into a set of Michelin A S 3+ for about $500 out the door. Not bad. edit: Since many are asking I first opened a ticket with Michelin customer service. They pointed me to a list of approved Michelin dealers. Not every tire shop is on the list but Discount Tire and NTB definitely were on the list (NTB was where I bought my tires). | This. But listen up. As a person who worked in service at dealerships this is incredibly annoying to deal with because customers believe that the installing location should handle everything and fight the tire company for them when they do not agree with their claim. All we will do is measure the tread depth which has to be at 2 32 or lower in order to qualify for this. It s up to YOU to buy the new tires and then submit your rebate form. Then it takes upwards of 4-6 weeks to receive said refund. And even then the company or portion of the tire company that manages the refund are shite. They typically have an electronic submission form online but sometimes they ask you to fax proof in (repair order that has to EXPLICITLY state the tire tread depth). And even then I ll follow up and they ll say nothing is on file. I kind of forgot the point of this comment. Shedding light on the machinations behind this idea? Take it with a grain of salt as your individual experience will vary. | Yep. I got my next pair of tires for half-off. The tire company handled the warranty for me. Just call tire shops to find one that will handle the paperwork. | 50 | 2 | 7,761 |
k5lpv6 | 462 | Tesla refusing to cover damage on Model X 5 days after recall issued Happened today. Wife was getting our 7 month old out of the car at the grocery store. Hits the button on the door to open passenger side falcon door on her 2016 Model X. Door opens and smashes into middle glass panel that had started to pop up while driving. Glass shards fly all over my 7 month old sitting directly below and hit my wife in the face. She now has glass in her eye. Called Tesla and they re refusing to cover it saying we will have to pay for tow and to fix the damage. This is the exact issue in question for which the recall was issued. What s going on Tesla? Would appreciate the upvotes to help this get attention. Wife is at the Dr with glass in her eye. Lucky the baby wasn t hurt. Could have been bad if this came off while driving and hit another car or person. EDIT: Received a letter from Tesla YESTERDAY about this very issue with directive to do nothing. Added it for everyone to see. UPDATE: After hours on the phone and being told by corporate folks at Tesla it would be covered we got in touch with the manager at our local service center. It was obvious to him this was a result of defects addressed in the recall. He went out of his way to take care of us. Had the vehicle towed provided a loaner and got the car fixed in just a day. Zero charge. 24 hours later the wife s eye is much better. She ended up with a scratch on her eye but is already feeling much better. Thanks to everyone for the upvotes advice and comments. This has restored my faith a bit in the Tesla community I came to really enjoy a few years ago when I got serious about getting my first Tesla. https: preview.redd.it nfm6hqaarv261.png?width=497& format=png& auto=webp& s=f6ffde7551601f840a3e6438059c4b2bab49fb5e https: reddit.com link k5lpv6 video kv3w6pxh3v261 player https: preview.redd.it vepe9omf3v261.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=7f5edeaacde11f2b968d3b46a2945ba32fe6e560 | I would definitely not let that slide your wife god forbid could lose an eye. Contact a lawyer. | Is this recall for 2016 Xs? | 66 | 2 | 7,762 |
k5lpv6 | 462 | Tesla refusing to cover damage on Model X 5 days after recall issued Happened today. Wife was getting our 7 month old out of the car at the grocery store. Hits the button on the door to open passenger side falcon door on her 2016 Model X. Door opens and smashes into middle glass panel that had started to pop up while driving. Glass shards fly all over my 7 month old sitting directly below and hit my wife in the face. She now has glass in her eye. Called Tesla and they re refusing to cover it saying we will have to pay for tow and to fix the damage. This is the exact issue in question for which the recall was issued. What s going on Tesla? Would appreciate the upvotes to help this get attention. Wife is at the Dr with glass in her eye. Lucky the baby wasn t hurt. Could have been bad if this came off while driving and hit another car or person. EDIT: Received a letter from Tesla YESTERDAY about this very issue with directive to do nothing. Added it for everyone to see. UPDATE: After hours on the phone and being told by corporate folks at Tesla it would be covered we got in touch with the manager at our local service center. It was obvious to him this was a result of defects addressed in the recall. He went out of his way to take care of us. Had the vehicle towed provided a loaner and got the car fixed in just a day. Zero charge. 24 hours later the wife s eye is much better. She ended up with a scratch on her eye but is already feeling much better. Thanks to everyone for the upvotes advice and comments. This has restored my faith a bit in the Tesla community I came to really enjoy a few years ago when I got serious about getting my first Tesla. https: preview.redd.it nfm6hqaarv261.png?width=497& format=png& auto=webp& s=f6ffde7551601f840a3e6438059c4b2bab49fb5e https: reddit.com link k5lpv6 video kv3w6pxh3v261 player https: preview.redd.it vepe9omf3v261.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=7f5edeaacde11f2b968d3b46a2945ba32fe6e560 | Under the Agreement to Arbitrate: If you have a concern or dispute please send a written notice describing it and your desired resolution to [email protected]. | Is this recall for 2016 Xs? | 53 | 2 | 7,763 |
k5lpv6 | 462 | Tesla refusing to cover damage on Model X 5 days after recall issued Happened today. Wife was getting our 7 month old out of the car at the grocery store. Hits the button on the door to open passenger side falcon door on her 2016 Model X. Door opens and smashes into middle glass panel that had started to pop up while driving. Glass shards fly all over my 7 month old sitting directly below and hit my wife in the face. She now has glass in her eye. Called Tesla and they re refusing to cover it saying we will have to pay for tow and to fix the damage. This is the exact issue in question for which the recall was issued. What s going on Tesla? Would appreciate the upvotes to help this get attention. Wife is at the Dr with glass in her eye. Lucky the baby wasn t hurt. Could have been bad if this came off while driving and hit another car or person. EDIT: Received a letter from Tesla YESTERDAY about this very issue with directive to do nothing. Added it for everyone to see. UPDATE: After hours on the phone and being told by corporate folks at Tesla it would be covered we got in touch with the manager at our local service center. It was obvious to him this was a result of defects addressed in the recall. He went out of his way to take care of us. Had the vehicle towed provided a loaner and got the car fixed in just a day. Zero charge. 24 hours later the wife s eye is much better. She ended up with a scratch on her eye but is already feeling much better. Thanks to everyone for the upvotes advice and comments. This has restored my faith a bit in the Tesla community I came to really enjoy a few years ago when I got serious about getting my first Tesla. https: preview.redd.it nfm6hqaarv261.png?width=497& format=png& auto=webp& s=f6ffde7551601f840a3e6438059c4b2bab49fb5e https: reddit.com link k5lpv6 video kv3w6pxh3v261 player https: preview.redd.it vepe9omf3v261.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=7f5edeaacde11f2b968d3b46a2945ba32fe6e560 | Under the Agreement to Arbitrate: If you have a concern or dispute please send a written notice describing it and your desired resolution to [email protected]. | Why was the glass popping up while driving in the first place? Or is that what the warranty is about and supposed to cover (the glass popping up)? Sorry to hear about the damage and I hope your wife is ok. | 53 | 5 | 7,764 |
k5qbxx | 178 | Two years later - RPMTesla Lifetime Warranty is trash The most recent mention of RPM Tesla on this sub is from about two years ago so I figured I d post about my recent experience with them. About two years ago I bought some [white](https: www.rpmtesla.com products led-light-upgrade-kit-5-pcs-44-w-20-off) and [red](https: www.rpmtesla.com products model-s-x-red-door-led-lights-4-pcs-44-w-20-off) LEDs for my 3 and my dad s X. About a year and a half in some of the white LEDs started flickering so I contacted them to be replaced under warranty and after sending pictures videos of the issue they sent replacements fairly quickly. Not a problem. About a year later about 2.5 years after ordering I m visiting my parents and I noticed that the red LEDs are going out. I email them again and their response is that this may be normal wear and tear and their offer is a 50% discount for replacements. I point out this snippet on their website: > These RED - 6 LED lights cost 30% less than our competitors and yet they are 30% brighter. Our competitors give you only a 2 year warranty but we give you a lifetime warranty! Better quality lower pricing and longer warranty. But they basically said $10 for the replacement take it or leave it. So be warned - their lifetime warranty is < 2.5 years. **Edit**: it was pointed out to me that their warranty says they may charge cost of materials and shipping bolding mine: (https: www.rpmtesla.com pages copy-of-about-us) > LIMITED* LIFETIME WARRANTY: > Our products come with a LIFETIME WARRANTY unless something else is listed on the product page for the item in question*. Our Lifetime Warranty does not cover normal wear and tear. If something wears out or gets damaged over time or damaged while installing it we will offer a replacement item at a discounted price. For vinyl See below under Replacement Pieces. Unfortunately we are not able to replace discontinued items. > If something stops working during the first 90 days we will send you a free replacement along with a return label to send back the defective part. We even pay the shipping for replacement parts during the first 90 days. > After 90 days we require our customers to ship back whatever is not working or broken for our evaluation. **If a replacement is needed we may charge them for the material cost and shipping.** After 90 days we do not issue refunds. In either case be sure to include your order number and your shipping address if it has changed. > International Customers do have to pay a replacement shipping cost of $25 for non oversized items HI and AK $10 or simply place a new order over $50 and we will include the replacement free of charge. > For missing items you have 5 days from receipt of delivery notification to email for replacement after 5 days we will not be able to replace missing lost shipments. So there s that to keep in mind. | Our warranty is for the lifetime of the product - which ended when it broke . | Thanks for the heads-up. I really dislike garbage customer service like this. | 126 | 32 | 7,765 |
k6m582 | 29 | TESLA vs. WAYMO - machine learning Here is my problem: I am trying to determine who is ahead when it comes to autonomous driving. And while FSD Beta 5 is really impressive so is WAYMO and so is MOBILEYE. The pro TESLA FSD argument usually goes like this: TESLA is not geo fenced it has a neural net therefore every other company is fucked. WAYMO is driving like a train on tracks ... The argument for WAYMO usually goes like this: WAYMO has achieved lvl 5 autonomy mapping the entire world can be done within weeks so therefore TESLA is fucked. However after I recently started reading a book about machine learning (its called hands-on machine learning with scikit-learn keras and teslowflow) I realized pretty quickly that people dont know what they are talking about. My own knowledge about the whole topic is not sufficent either (far from it). Thats why I am here. I have read at least 100 articles from various news sources written by journalists I have dug through forum posts and read YouTube comments and everyone seems to be a machine learning expert. So please unless you know what you are talking about please dont answer my question. Here is the question: WAYMO is fully capable of driving passangers from point A to point B without a driver. It works only in one city but it works 100%. So the argument for WAYMO seems to be very compelling. If they are done like everyone says then why arent they mapping more cities like ... YESTERDAY? Throwing a few hundred million dollars WAYMOs way and do the mapping should be easy for Alphabet. So why arent they doing it? Who is truly ahead? Thanks for all your answers :) | Waymo is level 4 specifically because its geofenced so its not level 5. Also their current autonomous level 4 cars have humans remotely monitoring with the ability to intervene and waymo doesn t state the figures on how often that does or doesn t happen. & #x200B youre underestimating the scalability maintenance hd maps. its not that easy to make the map and then every time theres construction changes you have to map again. its very far from ideal. | I don t think couple hundred mil is enough for mapping all major cities in the US | 65 | 4 | 7,766 |
k6m582 | 29 | TESLA vs. WAYMO - machine learning Here is my problem: I am trying to determine who is ahead when it comes to autonomous driving. And while FSD Beta 5 is really impressive so is WAYMO and so is MOBILEYE. The pro TESLA FSD argument usually goes like this: TESLA is not geo fenced it has a neural net therefore every other company is fucked. WAYMO is driving like a train on tracks ... The argument for WAYMO usually goes like this: WAYMO has achieved lvl 5 autonomy mapping the entire world can be done within weeks so therefore TESLA is fucked. However after I recently started reading a book about machine learning (its called hands-on machine learning with scikit-learn keras and teslowflow) I realized pretty quickly that people dont know what they are talking about. My own knowledge about the whole topic is not sufficent either (far from it). Thats why I am here. I have read at least 100 articles from various news sources written by journalists I have dug through forum posts and read YouTube comments and everyone seems to be a machine learning expert. So please unless you know what you are talking about please dont answer my question. Here is the question: WAYMO is fully capable of driving passangers from point A to point B without a driver. It works only in one city but it works 100%. So the argument for WAYMO seems to be very compelling. If they are done like everyone says then why arent they mapping more cities like ... YESTERDAY? Throwing a few hundred million dollars WAYMOs way and do the mapping should be easy for Alphabet. So why arent they doing it? Who is truly ahead? Thanks for all your answers :) | Waymo is level 4 specifically because its geofenced so its not level 5. Also their current autonomous level 4 cars have humans remotely monitoring with the ability to intervene and waymo doesn t state the figures on how often that does or doesn t happen. & #x200B youre underestimating the scalability maintenance hd maps. its not that easy to make the map and then every time theres construction changes you have to map again. its very far from ideal. | I like the taste of purple crayons | 65 | 15 | 7,767 |
k6m582 | 29 | TESLA vs. WAYMO - machine learning Here is my problem: I am trying to determine who is ahead when it comes to autonomous driving. And while FSD Beta 5 is really impressive so is WAYMO and so is MOBILEYE. The pro TESLA FSD argument usually goes like this: TESLA is not geo fenced it has a neural net therefore every other company is fucked. WAYMO is driving like a train on tracks ... The argument for WAYMO usually goes like this: WAYMO has achieved lvl 5 autonomy mapping the entire world can be done within weeks so therefore TESLA is fucked. However after I recently started reading a book about machine learning (its called hands-on machine learning with scikit-learn keras and teslowflow) I realized pretty quickly that people dont know what they are talking about. My own knowledge about the whole topic is not sufficent either (far from it). Thats why I am here. I have read at least 100 articles from various news sources written by journalists I have dug through forum posts and read YouTube comments and everyone seems to be a machine learning expert. So please unless you know what you are talking about please dont answer my question. Here is the question: WAYMO is fully capable of driving passangers from point A to point B without a driver. It works only in one city but it works 100%. So the argument for WAYMO seems to be very compelling. If they are done like everyone says then why arent they mapping more cities like ... YESTERDAY? Throwing a few hundred million dollars WAYMOs way and do the mapping should be easy for Alphabet. So why arent they doing it? Who is truly ahead? Thanks for all your answers :) | Waymo is level 4 specifically because its geofenced so its not level 5. Also their current autonomous level 4 cars have humans remotely monitoring with the ability to intervene and waymo doesn t state the figures on how often that does or doesn t happen. & #x200B youre underestimating the scalability maintenance hd maps. its not that easy to make the map and then every time theres construction changes you have to map again. its very far from ideal. | Map the entire world in weeks? Google hasn t even done that in over a decade. Is it closer to two decades now? | 65 | 28 | 7,768 |
k72kub | 139 | Dog mode failed to prevent this good samaritan & #x200B [Someone took the time to write this note and put it on my window but apparently never saw the screen with dog mode enabled. ¯\\\\\\_\\(ツ\\)\\_\\ ¯](https: preview.redd.it 66e66qs4ab361.jpg?width=2680& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f75f44bfa4592e4c55416c8895e289305ddeae91) | at least he didnt damage your property lol | It would be nice if the “dog mode” and temp was more visible. | 131 | 2 | 7,769 |
k72kub | 139 | Dog mode failed to prevent this good samaritan & #x200B [Someone took the time to write this note and put it on my window but apparently never saw the screen with dog mode enabled. ¯\\\\\\_\\(ツ\\)\\_\\ ¯](https: preview.redd.it 66e66qs4ab361.jpg?width=2680& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f75f44bfa4592e4c55416c8895e289305ddeae91) | at least he didnt damage your property lol | Psh- I m in MO and dog left in a car now would be happy for a little warmth. | 131 | 3 | 7,770 |
k72kub | 139 | Dog mode failed to prevent this good samaritan & #x200B [Someone took the time to write this note and put it on my window but apparently never saw the screen with dog mode enabled. ¯\\\\\\_\\(ツ\\)\\_\\ ¯](https: preview.redd.it 66e66qs4ab361.jpg?width=2680& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f75f44bfa4592e4c55416c8895e289305ddeae91) | at least he didnt damage your property lol | Got sentry mode video to go with this? | 131 | 30 | 7,771 |
k8gmor | 94 | 2020.48.x Software Update Megathread **2020.48** has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about Tesla vehicles updates [here](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). [**Release Notes**](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.48.5) - Navigation Improvements - Autosteer Stop Sign and Stop Light Warning - Dynamic Brake Lights - Text Messaging Improvements - Unlatching Charge Cable - QQ Music Improvements - TRAX v0.2 - Sentry Mode Improvements Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: * [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. * [Teslascope](https: www.teslascope.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. * [TeslaFi](https: www.teslafi.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Please refer to the release note link for more specifics on vehicles. Your software versions may not be pushed to your car in any specific order and are deployed in batches. | Are most of these changes for China only? Not much here for the US? According to [TeslaFi](https: www.teslafi.com firmware.php): > Navigation Improvements China only > Autosteer Stop Sign and Stop Light Warning Canada only > Dynamic Brake Lights China only > Text Messaging Improvements Worldwide (you can now have it read all the messages when multiple messages come in rapid fire from your spouse) > Unlatching Charge Cable Worldwide (S & X only) > QQ Music Improvements China only > TRAX v0.2 Worldwide (but does anyone care?) > Sentry Mode Improvements Looks like EMEA only | Anyone have thoughts on the Phantom Braking performance of this update in Model 3? If it s worse in any way then I ll probably skip this one... | 35 | 9 | 7,772 |
k9gayo | 52 | Be careful y all my Tesla Tequila came shattered and empty :( Pics here: [https: imgur.com a nraufuJ](https: imgur.com a nraufuJ) My shipping provider did not provide tracking information at all and the package just showed up with no warning luckily was still around to pick it up and the bottle was shattered the tequila was completely leaked and the packaging was completely soaked. Did anyone else have this experience or any suggestions what to do? | Is the shipper even allowed to deliver it without getting a signature from someone old enough? | Soak all the packaging in water you should be able to recover some the tequila! | 51 | 9 | 7,773 |
k9uqwm | 35 | So what happened to the 7 seater Y? Guess we should have clarified which year Musk was talking about when he said production in November and deliveries in December. | It s only available in a bundle with the Roadster 2 and hands-off full self driving from snake charger to snake charger | 3 to 6 months maybe | 62 | 3 | 7,774 |
k9uqwm | 35 | So what happened to the 7 seater Y? Guess we should have clarified which year Musk was talking about when he said production in November and deliveries in December. | I m betting an extra seat option would have slowed production so they ve called it off until the next quarter. Deliveries are very important this quarter. | 3 to 6 months maybe | 31 | 3 | 7,775 |
k9uqwm | 35 | So what happened to the 7 seater Y? Guess we should have clarified which year Musk was talking about when he said production in November and deliveries in December. | I m betting an extra seat option would have slowed production so they ve called it off until the next quarter. Deliveries are very important this quarter. | Maybe its gone like the 35k model 3 | 31 | 3 | 7,776 |
ka2ehn | 83 | The car is nearly done 1.5 years later! & #x200B https: preview.redd.it cdt2qvbyj8461.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=0e0dbc4e73e0d307ba1cf93e1e1c05176136ddfe | Looks amazing but I m curious why you got a SR+ if you intended to track it and do this many performance mods | Just letting you know it looks like you made both comments in bold text | 29 | 2 | 7,777 |
ka2ehn | 83 | The car is nearly done 1.5 years later! & #x200B https: preview.redd.it cdt2qvbyj8461.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=0e0dbc4e73e0d307ba1cf93e1e1c05176136ddfe | Looks amazing but I m curious why you got a SR+ if you intended to track it and do this many performance mods | Dope | 29 | 3 | 7,778 |
ka99a1 | 706 | Unintentionally hate my ICE vehicle after test driving a performance M3 Tesla is my favorite company in multiple aspects. Their upbringing mission groundbreaking products... I just love them so much and have for a few years. I m 20 years old and in college and currently drive a pickup truck that isn t too speedy but still can pass cars with a breeze. For the past couple of years I ve been convincing my parents to purchase a Tesla and we ve been on 2 test drives. (I was not the driver for either of these trips). Under GA law for some reason I was under the impression that you had to be at least 25+ years of age to test drive a vehicle. After some curiosity I called a local Tesla showroom and found out you only had to be 18. I shouted from the rooftops after hanging up the phone and immediately booked my test drive as soon as possible. A week later after checking in for my appointment and getting settled the employee said “So you re going to be driving the performance Model 3 I m sure that s okay with you?” “Absolutely”. I sat down in the drivers seat and was astonished even though I fully knew what to expect. Due to Covid employees weren t riding in the vehicle with you. Instead they send you on your way for roughly 20 minutes to do your hearts desires. After driving for a few minutes and getting used to the braking system (which I absolutely loved) I approached a red light and I was the first car in line. When it turned green I (safely) tested out the acceleration. I got a head rush was thrown back in my seat and couldn t hold back my laughter. I couldn t believe how fast this machine that I was in charge of could go. I proceeded to get on the freeway and merge with no trouble at all as the acceleration gives you plenty of confidence to get in front of cars. I let autopilot take me a few miles and had it pass cars in lanes I was smiling the entire time. Couldn t stop myself no matter how hard I tried. I was quite literally in my version of heaven and bliss. After returning to the dealership and chatting with the employee a bit about the Cybertruck Texas Gigafactory and other Tesla related topics I left and immediately felt a sense of near sadness when I put my foot on the gas of my pickup truck. There was no instant acceleration no sound of the futuristic engine no regenerative braking... my brain was confused. I knew obviously that my truck would feel different but in those 20 minutes that I got to drive the M3 I wanted to so badly be used to that feeling of driving all the time. Nothing is comparable. So now here I am 2 weeks later dreaming about owning a M3 or CT someday and getting that feeling back. Coincidentally I had to take my truck to the shop to fix some oil malfunction and it only fueled the fire more. Can t wait to be a future owner and can t wait to get that feeling back. I ll forever reminisce on the amazing experience of driving a Tesla. Edit: Grammar | P3D owner here for 2 years. That feeling doesn t wear off. :) | I drove a mate s SR+. It s insane how quickly you get used to it. I loved my car at the time but the withdrawal symptoms are quite serious. | 145 | 2 | 7,779 |
ka99a1 | 706 | Unintentionally hate my ICE vehicle after test driving a performance M3 Tesla is my favorite company in multiple aspects. Their upbringing mission groundbreaking products... I just love them so much and have for a few years. I m 20 years old and in college and currently drive a pickup truck that isn t too speedy but still can pass cars with a breeze. For the past couple of years I ve been convincing my parents to purchase a Tesla and we ve been on 2 test drives. (I was not the driver for either of these trips). Under GA law for some reason I was under the impression that you had to be at least 25+ years of age to test drive a vehicle. After some curiosity I called a local Tesla showroom and found out you only had to be 18. I shouted from the rooftops after hanging up the phone and immediately booked my test drive as soon as possible. A week later after checking in for my appointment and getting settled the employee said “So you re going to be driving the performance Model 3 I m sure that s okay with you?” “Absolutely”. I sat down in the drivers seat and was astonished even though I fully knew what to expect. Due to Covid employees weren t riding in the vehicle with you. Instead they send you on your way for roughly 20 minutes to do your hearts desires. After driving for a few minutes and getting used to the braking system (which I absolutely loved) I approached a red light and I was the first car in line. When it turned green I (safely) tested out the acceleration. I got a head rush was thrown back in my seat and couldn t hold back my laughter. I couldn t believe how fast this machine that I was in charge of could go. I proceeded to get on the freeway and merge with no trouble at all as the acceleration gives you plenty of confidence to get in front of cars. I let autopilot take me a few miles and had it pass cars in lanes I was smiling the entire time. Couldn t stop myself no matter how hard I tried. I was quite literally in my version of heaven and bliss. After returning to the dealership and chatting with the employee a bit about the Cybertruck Texas Gigafactory and other Tesla related topics I left and immediately felt a sense of near sadness when I put my foot on the gas of my pickup truck. There was no instant acceleration no sound of the futuristic engine no regenerative braking... my brain was confused. I knew obviously that my truck would feel different but in those 20 minutes that I got to drive the M3 I wanted to so badly be used to that feeling of driving all the time. Nothing is comparable. So now here I am 2 weeks later dreaming about owning a M3 or CT someday and getting that feeling back. Coincidentally I had to take my truck to the shop to fix some oil malfunction and it only fueled the fire more. Can t wait to be a future owner and can t wait to get that feeling back. I ll forever reminisce on the amazing experience of driving a Tesla. Edit: Grammar | P3D owner here for 2 years. That feeling doesn t wear off. :) | I leased a Bolt and returned it after my lease was up. The car was simply a battery on four wheels. No ICE cars excite me anymore. All this “competition is coming” talk started in 2017 when I first got my Bolt. And now it s 2020 I m still waiting for that “competition.” What makes Tesla even more special is the full self driving. I have put my deposit down on a Cybertruck and have been putting my savings from my income into the Tesla stock. Hopefully by the time I get the CT the investment will more than pay for the truck itself... Can t wait for the day I own a Tesla FSD CT... | 145 | 2 | 7,780 |
ka99a1 | 706 | Unintentionally hate my ICE vehicle after test driving a performance M3 Tesla is my favorite company in multiple aspects. Their upbringing mission groundbreaking products... I just love them so much and have for a few years. I m 20 years old and in college and currently drive a pickup truck that isn t too speedy but still can pass cars with a breeze. For the past couple of years I ve been convincing my parents to purchase a Tesla and we ve been on 2 test drives. (I was not the driver for either of these trips). Under GA law for some reason I was under the impression that you had to be at least 25+ years of age to test drive a vehicle. After some curiosity I called a local Tesla showroom and found out you only had to be 18. I shouted from the rooftops after hanging up the phone and immediately booked my test drive as soon as possible. A week later after checking in for my appointment and getting settled the employee said “So you re going to be driving the performance Model 3 I m sure that s okay with you?” “Absolutely”. I sat down in the drivers seat and was astonished even though I fully knew what to expect. Due to Covid employees weren t riding in the vehicle with you. Instead they send you on your way for roughly 20 minutes to do your hearts desires. After driving for a few minutes and getting used to the braking system (which I absolutely loved) I approached a red light and I was the first car in line. When it turned green I (safely) tested out the acceleration. I got a head rush was thrown back in my seat and couldn t hold back my laughter. I couldn t believe how fast this machine that I was in charge of could go. I proceeded to get on the freeway and merge with no trouble at all as the acceleration gives you plenty of confidence to get in front of cars. I let autopilot take me a few miles and had it pass cars in lanes I was smiling the entire time. Couldn t stop myself no matter how hard I tried. I was quite literally in my version of heaven and bliss. After returning to the dealership and chatting with the employee a bit about the Cybertruck Texas Gigafactory and other Tesla related topics I left and immediately felt a sense of near sadness when I put my foot on the gas of my pickup truck. There was no instant acceleration no sound of the futuristic engine no regenerative braking... my brain was confused. I knew obviously that my truck would feel different but in those 20 minutes that I got to drive the M3 I wanted to so badly be used to that feeling of driving all the time. Nothing is comparable. So now here I am 2 weeks later dreaming about owning a M3 or CT someday and getting that feeling back. Coincidentally I had to take my truck to the shop to fix some oil malfunction and it only fueled the fire more. Can t wait to be a future owner and can t wait to get that feeling back. I ll forever reminisce on the amazing experience of driving a Tesla. Edit: Grammar | P3D owner here for 2 years. That feeling doesn t wear off. :) | Has anyone ever told you that you re a good writer? That was a heartfelt and well-crafted statement. Thank you. | 145 | 10 | 7,781 |
kafq7q | 111 | Your favorite Tesla accessories! Go! A thread to share your favorite Tesla accessories. If they are model specific please indicate that in your comment. Please try to keep it clean and organized if possible for the best readability. Please avoid sharing referral links and we want to remind you that if you have a product that you (or your company) sells you need to indicate that in your user flair as indicated in our Rules. Please don t make us give time outs. Go Go Go! | Easy Tesla All Weather FloorLiners. | [These](https: www.amazon.com dp B07GBK8Q3Z ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_alsvItOPCrUaf) Strong Arm struts for Model 3 Frunk. | 89 | 3 | 7,782 |
kafq7q | 111 | Your favorite Tesla accessories! Go! A thread to share your favorite Tesla accessories. If they are model specific please indicate that in your comment. Please try to keep it clean and organized if possible for the best readability. Please avoid sharing referral links and we want to remind you that if you have a product that you (or your company) sells you need to indicate that in your user flair as indicated in our Rules. Please don t make us give time outs. Go Go Go! | Easy Tesla All Weather FloorLiners. | -A console tray for sunglasses and things. -weatherproof mats (also in rear for model Y) -matte screen protector for glare and touch | 89 | 15 | 7,783 |
kafq7q | 111 | Your favorite Tesla accessories! Go! A thread to share your favorite Tesla accessories. If they are model specific please indicate that in your comment. Please try to keep it clean and organized if possible for the best readability. Please avoid sharing referral links and we want to remind you that if you have a product that you (or your company) sells you need to indicate that in your user flair as indicated in our Rules. Please don t make us give time outs. Go Go Go! | Easy Tesla All Weather FloorLiners. | xbox controller | 89 | 35 | 7,784 |
kagcn1 | 65 | Coworkers Model 3 completely died while driving this morning. Right after dropping off his kids it died pulling out of the school. He said car went completely dead lost power steering and had to stand on the brakes to get it to stop. Luckily he was only going ~15 20mph. He used the handle to get out and then instinctively shut the door. There seems to be no way to get back into the car.. He called tesla and after first accusing him of improperly jumping the car (which he didn t do and wasn t even aware it was possible to jump) they re towing it 250 miles away to the nearest service center with his wallet and computer inside the car. Luckily he didn t have his kids in the car... but if he did is the only option to break the windows at that point? | Did [opening the frunk](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=6h2y3pl4DqU) and jumping the 12v battery help? I would expect the 12v just disconnecting to not power down the car since the 400v-> 12v should keep things running and at best you get a big warning about a disconnected battery. | Good news is unlike an ICE it s probably just a switch or relay. Edit: changed fuse to relay. Also probably just the 12 volt. | 39 | 3 | 7,785 |
kagcn1 | 65 | Coworkers Model 3 completely died while driving this morning. Right after dropping off his kids it died pulling out of the school. He said car went completely dead lost power steering and had to stand on the brakes to get it to stop. Luckily he was only going ~15 20mph. He used the handle to get out and then instinctively shut the door. There seems to be no way to get back into the car.. He called tesla and after first accusing him of improperly jumping the car (which he didn t do and wasn t even aware it was possible to jump) they re towing it 250 miles away to the nearest service center with his wallet and computer inside the car. Luckily he didn t have his kids in the car... but if he did is the only option to break the windows at that point? | They need to fix their fuckin customer service people and stop blaming the customers for everything. It s so aggravating and why I told my parents to not get a Model Y. | main fuse popped for some reason. | 38 | 2 | 7,786 |
kagcn1 | 65 | Coworkers Model 3 completely died while driving this morning. Right after dropping off his kids it died pulling out of the school. He said car went completely dead lost power steering and had to stand on the brakes to get it to stop. Luckily he was only going ~15 20mph. He used the handle to get out and then instinctively shut the door. There seems to be no way to get back into the car.. He called tesla and after first accusing him of improperly jumping the car (which he didn t do and wasn t even aware it was possible to jump) they re towing it 250 miles away to the nearest service center with his wallet and computer inside the car. Luckily he didn t have his kids in the car... but if he did is the only option to break the windows at that point? | They need to fix their fuckin customer service people and stop blaming the customers for everything. It s so aggravating and why I told my parents to not get a Model Y. | Good news is unlike an ICE it s probably just a switch or relay. Edit: changed fuse to relay. Also probably just the 12 volt. | 38 | 3 | 7,787 |
kajl3f | 31 | No model x love here? Afternoon all. We are looking at getting a Tesla and love the X. It seems to me that most posts here talk about most of the other models and not this particular one. Is there something you all know that we dont? Thanks and happy Hanukkah to those that celebrate! | As an X owner and driver of S and 3 I personally would take an X anyday. Less talk about X s because frankly Tesla sell far less than other models. The worse thing Tesla could do is stick that generic landscape monitor in the S or X like in the 3 Y. If you like the X get it you ll love it !!! | The X needs a refresh. Going from a Y to an S X felt like going back to an older car. I had to drive one for a week and it was terrible compared to the Y | 57 | 2 | 7,788 |
kajl3f | 31 | No model x love here? Afternoon all. We are looking at getting a Tesla and love the X. It seems to me that most posts here talk about most of the other models and not this particular one. Is there something you all know that we dont? Thanks and happy Hanukkah to those that celebrate! | Model X sales numbers are a drop in the bucket of the 3 Y sales so it s not exactly unexpected that it receives less attention on the sub. Simply put many more people own the cheaper Tesla cars. Personally having driven the X many times (both the older loaner models and the raven ones) I do not think the price point is justified anymore. Then there s the fact that it is quite overdue for a refresh and one has been rumored and expected on and off in the past couple of years. However if you need a large electric SUV now or have a specific need for easy access to the rear there s not much else to choose from. | The X needs a refresh. Going from a Y to an S X felt like going back to an older car. I had to drive one for a week and it was terrible compared to the Y | 29 | 2 | 7,789 |
katuxh | 98 | Six years ago I bet a friend a ridiculous amount of money that FSD would be here by 2020. Can Tesla save me? In 2014 my friend and I bet that before 2021 a self driving car would be able drive from my apartment in downtown Seattle to my friend s house in a suburb (Bellevue) 30 minutes away without any controls being used after the destination was programmed in. (We agreed that if the wheel needs to be touched without any control applied that d be OK). We bet one Bitcoin on this which at the time was worth about $350 and is now worth around $18 000. Fortunately one week after our bet we put a $10k cap on it so I actually stand to lose or gain $10k. I ve been mentally preparing to lose for the past couple years but based on recent youtube videos it seems like I at least have some chance of winning this bet and it may be worth it for me to find someone with the Tesla FSD upgrade and offer to pay them to help me. I wanted to get some expert advice first: is this hopeless? Is there something that I m not seeing in the FSD videos that would almost certainly prevent me from winning? If I do have a chance do you have tips for making my win more likely? Are some cars better for this than others? I know I need hardware 3 . Is there anything else non-obvious that might affect the outcome? Do you guys know anyone near Seattle with FSD that would be willing to help me with this? I d be happy to offer a $3 000 cut of the prize if I win. EDIT: [This is the route that it needs to drive](https: www.google.com maps dir 420+Pontius+Ave+N +Seattle +WA+98109 47.5924057 -122.1540214 @47.5990298 -122.2941698 12.75z data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x54901530df338ad3:0x1052758d58878be9!2m2!1d-122.3314167!2d47.6227012!1m0!3e0) (approximately I slightly changed the locations to not reveal our addresses). | My best advice is to go back in time and buy the 1 Bitcoin at the time you made the bet. While you re there buy 1000 more. | LOL wow. I want to know who s going to pay who! | 179 | 2 | 7,790 |
katuxh | 98 | Six years ago I bet a friend a ridiculous amount of money that FSD would be here by 2020. Can Tesla save me? In 2014 my friend and I bet that before 2021 a self driving car would be able drive from my apartment in downtown Seattle to my friend s house in a suburb (Bellevue) 30 minutes away without any controls being used after the destination was programmed in. (We agreed that if the wheel needs to be touched without any control applied that d be OK). We bet one Bitcoin on this which at the time was worth about $350 and is now worth around $18 000. Fortunately one week after our bet we put a $10k cap on it so I actually stand to lose or gain $10k. I ve been mentally preparing to lose for the past couple years but based on recent youtube videos it seems like I at least have some chance of winning this bet and it may be worth it for me to find someone with the Tesla FSD upgrade and offer to pay them to help me. I wanted to get some expert advice first: is this hopeless? Is there something that I m not seeing in the FSD videos that would almost certainly prevent me from winning? If I do have a chance do you have tips for making my win more likely? Are some cars better for this than others? I know I need hardware 3 . Is there anything else non-obvious that might affect the outcome? Do you guys know anyone near Seattle with FSD that would be willing to help me with this? I d be happy to offer a $3 000 cut of the prize if I win. EDIT: [This is the route that it needs to drive](https: www.google.com maps dir 420+Pontius+Ave+N +Seattle +WA+98109 47.5924057 -122.1540214 @47.5990298 -122.2941698 12.75z data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x54901530df338ad3:0x1052758d58878be9!2m2!1d-122.3314167!2d47.6227012!1m0!3e0) (approximately I slightly changed the locations to not reveal our addresses). | My best advice is to go back in time and buy the 1 Bitcoin at the time you made the bet. While you re there buy 1000 more. | No. Even if current FSD beta expanded to more testers this year you probably won t get it this year. And even if you did it still doesn t work well in many scenarios and won t go from parking lot to parking lot. Currently it will take you to a driveway and then pretty much gives up. Maybe if there are no unprotected left turns on your route you might only need to disengage a couple of times with the current beta but you would still be manually driving at least a bit. | 179 | 8 | 7,791 |
katuxh | 98 | Six years ago I bet a friend a ridiculous amount of money that FSD would be here by 2020. Can Tesla save me? In 2014 my friend and I bet that before 2021 a self driving car would be able drive from my apartment in downtown Seattle to my friend s house in a suburb (Bellevue) 30 minutes away without any controls being used after the destination was programmed in. (We agreed that if the wheel needs to be touched without any control applied that d be OK). We bet one Bitcoin on this which at the time was worth about $350 and is now worth around $18 000. Fortunately one week after our bet we put a $10k cap on it so I actually stand to lose or gain $10k. I ve been mentally preparing to lose for the past couple years but based on recent youtube videos it seems like I at least have some chance of winning this bet and it may be worth it for me to find someone with the Tesla FSD upgrade and offer to pay them to help me. I wanted to get some expert advice first: is this hopeless? Is there something that I m not seeing in the FSD videos that would almost certainly prevent me from winning? If I do have a chance do you have tips for making my win more likely? Are some cars better for this than others? I know I need hardware 3 . Is there anything else non-obvious that might affect the outcome? Do you guys know anyone near Seattle with FSD that would be willing to help me with this? I d be happy to offer a $3 000 cut of the prize if I win. EDIT: [This is the route that it needs to drive](https: www.google.com maps dir 420+Pontius+Ave+N +Seattle +WA+98109 47.5924057 -122.1540214 @47.5990298 -122.2941698 12.75z data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x54901530df338ad3:0x1052758d58878be9!2m2!1d-122.3314167!2d47.6227012!1m0!3e0) (approximately I slightly changed the locations to not reveal our addresses). | My best advice is to go back in time and buy the 1 Bitcoin at the time you made the bet. While you re there buy 1000 more. | It isn t even guaranteed your car could summon from your parking space to the exit of the lot right now. Sorry. | 179 | 14 | 7,792 |
kbeijv | 27 | Tesla Offer I recently got an internship offer with Tesla. I am super excited and would love to know more about working there. Also I would like to get some insight on salary negotiation? Is it okay to negotiate salary as an intern? | Don t negotiate on salary for an internship man. You might be their first choice but their second choice is probably 99% and will do it without thinking about the paycheck. | Would you mind sharing your resume? What qualifies someone for an internship with Tesla? | 40 | 2 | 7,793 |
kbeijv | 27 | Tesla Offer I recently got an internship offer with Tesla. I am super excited and would love to know more about working there. Also I would like to get some insight on salary negotiation? Is it okay to negotiate salary as an intern? | Don t negotiate on salary for an internship man. You might be their first choice but their second choice is probably 99% and will do it without thinking about the paycheck. | May I ask what area your internship is in? I was browsing their public health environmental health internships recently. | 40 | 7 | 7,794 |
kbeijv | 27 | Tesla Offer I recently got an internship offer with Tesla. I am super excited and would love to know more about working there. Also I would like to get some insight on salary negotiation? Is it okay to negotiate salary as an intern? | Also don t suck as an intern. It s essentially a 3-month long interview. | Would you mind sharing your resume? What qualifies someone for an internship with Tesla? | 29 | 2 | 7,795 |
kbwiem | 151 | 1 year free Supercharging Just got a call from my rep Tesla is offering 1 year free supercharging for M3 MY if you take delivery before 12 31 must place order by end of today 12 12 to make the year end delivery deadline. I was going to wait until January to place MY order should I just order now? Update: Tesla is trying to incentivize taking delivery before end of the year to push up their sell numbers. If you have placed an order and will be taking delivery with the next 3 weeks by 12 31 you will get free supercharging for a year. Update2: Here is an article from Electrek.co (https: electrek.co 2020 12 12 tesla-offers-one-year-free-supercharging-to-incentivize-deliveries-record-quarter-attempt ). According to a quote in the article this incentive excludes the M3 SR but to my knowledge right now you can only order the SR+ from Tesla.com so not sure if SR+ would get this incentive. | As someone who has owned two Tesla s with unlimited free supercharging I can say unless you drive a LOT away from your home then free supercharging isn t really all that great. If you do drive away from your home often then yes by all means it s a fantastic deal but take some time to honestly think about your driving habits. My first Tesla (S) I road tripped constantly and put 35k miles on it in 2 years and about 25K of that was free supercharger miles. I drove everywhere. Then my supercharging speeds got nerfed (look it up) and I traded in the car. Now I have an X and rarely drive it far enough away from my home to need supercharging. I wish I d not bought the X for free charging as soon afterwards they updated the X to the Raven versions. I d rather have waited. edit. I posted this lower down but here s some hard data on using superchargers as your primary charging vs charging at home: Not a perfect example but here s some data: I have about 16 000 miles on my X. Total charging is about 8 650kWh since I bought it and of that 3 700kWh of it is from free supercharging. Compared to the price of electricity at my house I ve saved $332.84 using free superchargers. It s not a great example as if I did pay for supercharging I d be paying a much more expensive rate (whatever Tesla charges you to use them). And also I mostly only supercharge while on the road away from my house so really charging at home wouldn t be an option. But for someone who doesn t have home charging but does have access to a local supercharger it will give you a sense for how much you d be saving. Basically about 35-40% of all my charging is using free supercharging and the bulk of that is from a recent cross country trip I took that was about 6 000 total miles all supercharging. | damn...wish I had that. | 98 | 5 | 7,796 |
kbwiem | 151 | 1 year free Supercharging Just got a call from my rep Tesla is offering 1 year free supercharging for M3 MY if you take delivery before 12 31 must place order by end of today 12 12 to make the year end delivery deadline. I was going to wait until January to place MY order should I just order now? Update: Tesla is trying to incentivize taking delivery before end of the year to push up their sell numbers. If you have placed an order and will be taking delivery with the next 3 weeks by 12 31 you will get free supercharging for a year. Update2: Here is an article from Electrek.co (https: electrek.co 2020 12 12 tesla-offers-one-year-free-supercharging-to-incentivize-deliveries-record-quarter-attempt ). According to a quote in the article this incentive excludes the M3 SR but to my knowledge right now you can only order the SR+ from Tesla.com so not sure if SR+ would get this incentive. | As someone who has owned two Tesla s with unlimited free supercharging I can say unless you drive a LOT away from your home then free supercharging isn t really all that great. If you do drive away from your home often then yes by all means it s a fantastic deal but take some time to honestly think about your driving habits. My first Tesla (S) I road tripped constantly and put 35k miles on it in 2 years and about 25K of that was free supercharger miles. I drove everywhere. Then my supercharging speeds got nerfed (look it up) and I traded in the car. Now I have an X and rarely drive it far enough away from my home to need supercharging. I wish I d not bought the X for free charging as soon afterwards they updated the X to the Raven versions. I d rather have waited. edit. I posted this lower down but here s some hard data on using superchargers as your primary charging vs charging at home: Not a perfect example but here s some data: I have about 16 000 miles on my X. Total charging is about 8 650kWh since I bought it and of that 3 700kWh of it is from free supercharging. Compared to the price of electricity at my house I ve saved $332.84 using free superchargers. It s not a great example as if I did pay for supercharging I d be paying a much more expensive rate (whatever Tesla charges you to use them). And also I mostly only supercharge while on the road away from my house so really charging at home wouldn t be an option. But for someone who doesn t have home charging but does have access to a local supercharger it will give you a sense for how much you d be saving. Basically about 35-40% of all my charging is using free supercharging and the bulk of that is from a recent cross country trip I took that was about 6 000 total miles all supercharging. | I ordered a model s on 11 17 and supposed to take delivery before the end of the year (still haven t got a vin). How do I get this? | 98 | 11 | 7,797 |
kby2ry | 277 | CNBC reporting model S X lines shutting down for 18 days - maybe this means there s a refresh? [Here s the report](https: www.cnbc.com 2020 12 12 tesla-model-s-and-x-production-will-shut-down-for-18-days-email.html) - it looks like they re shutting down over the holidays and then some more. With the people posting saying that sales advisors have been telling them there will be a 3-4 month delay in model S X orders it seems like this has been coming for a while. With the recent news about how they need to increase production to hit demand this seems odd unless there s an underlying reason. Employees can work with other teams do deliveries or use PTO to get paid for the down time from the article. Interesting. | Refresh imminent. They ve already completed production for Q4 and with the typical Q1 drop in demand this is a perfect opportunity to make changes upgrades to the production lines. | Do they sell as well? Seems like I only see 3s and Ys. | 189 | 33 | 7,798 |
kby2ry | 277 | CNBC reporting model S X lines shutting down for 18 days - maybe this means there s a refresh? [Here s the report](https: www.cnbc.com 2020 12 12 tesla-model-s-and-x-production-will-shut-down-for-18-days-email.html) - it looks like they re shutting down over the holidays and then some more. With the people posting saying that sales advisors have been telling them there will be a 3-4 month delay in model S X orders it seems like this has been coming for a while. With the recent news about how they need to increase production to hit demand this seems odd unless there s an underlying reason. Employees can work with other teams do deliveries or use PTO to get paid for the down time from the article. Interesting. | Interesting! The email that was sent out says this: Hi Team The SX lines will be shut down for the holidays starting Dec. 24th and returning Jan. 11th. We would like you to take the opportunity to refresh or spend time with your family so Tesla will be giving you a full week pay for the week of Jan. 4th. There will also be limited paid opportunities for you to support other shops or volunteer for deliveries during some of this time. The fact they say take the opportunity to refresh kinda hints that a refresh is indeed coming. | My brother in law just picked up his today. If it s a refresh I don t think he d be pleased | 113 | 6 | 7,799 |
kby2ry | 277 | CNBC reporting model S X lines shutting down for 18 days - maybe this means there s a refresh? [Here s the report](https: www.cnbc.com 2020 12 12 tesla-model-s-and-x-production-will-shut-down-for-18-days-email.html) - it looks like they re shutting down over the holidays and then some more. With the people posting saying that sales advisors have been telling them there will be a 3-4 month delay in model S X orders it seems like this has been coming for a while. With the recent news about how they need to increase production to hit demand this seems odd unless there s an underlying reason. Employees can work with other teams do deliveries or use PTO to get paid for the down time from the article. Interesting. | Interesting! The email that was sent out says this: Hi Team The SX lines will be shut down for the holidays starting Dec. 24th and returning Jan. 11th. We would like you to take the opportunity to refresh or spend time with your family so Tesla will be giving you a full week pay for the week of Jan. 4th. There will also be limited paid opportunities for you to support other shops or volunteer for deliveries during some of this time. The fact they say take the opportunity to refresh kinda hints that a refresh is indeed coming. | Ugh I was holding off buying an S because of this but pulled the trigger last month. I figured they would time the S refresh to coincide with the Plaid launch later next year. | 113 | 12 | 7,800 |
kc6gks | 25 | Auto wipers improved drastically? Maybe it s just me but has anyone noticed how dramatically auto-wipers have improved? It seems to be: * Single-swiping when it needs to and not any more than that. * It s not going full-out maximum speed in light rain. * Intermittent speeds are well-chosen. * It seems very responsive to changes in precipitation density. * Wipers are slowing down when coming to stops at lights (Which was one of my biggest pet-peeves.) | I ve noticed that wipers work pretty well when the sun shines but are a real problem only when it s raining. Maybe it s just me. | It s just you. | 49 | 3 | 7,801 |
kc6gks | 25 | Auto wipers improved drastically? Maybe it s just me but has anyone noticed how dramatically auto-wipers have improved? It seems to be: * Single-swiping when it needs to and not any more than that. * It s not going full-out maximum speed in light rain. * Intermittent speeds are well-chosen. * It seems very responsive to changes in precipitation density. * Wipers are slowing down when coming to stops at lights (Which was one of my biggest pet-peeves.) | I ve noticed that wipers work pretty well when the sun shines but are a real problem only when it s raining. Maybe it s just me. | The first car where even wipers improve via software update 😂 | 49 | 10 | 7,802 |
kcg4dz | 41 | What features currently available in other automakers vehicles would you like to see in a refreshed Model S X Title says all! With the news that the line is being shut down and that this could mean a potential refresh I wanted to see what minor features everyone else is hoping to see in a refreshed Model S X. For me I m really hoping for the following: - RGB ambient lighting I know this is a bit of a gimmick but it is hands down my favorite feature of my E63s! - Cooled seats no one wants a musty bussy - Heated Steering Wheel and arm rests - Real Metal finishes in interior - Surround View Camera - Better cupholders - Apple MagSafe charging - Return of the Sunroof will be a while before we get a roadster and love the wind in my hair While Model S X are in categories all their own the competition has definitely had a lot more innovation when it comes to creature comforts and I m curious to see what else they should add! | Air conditioned seats. It s pathetic they aren t offered. DODGE offers them in cheap cars FFS Also better seats in general with more adjustments including adjustable thigh support. Better sound isolation. | Fewer rattles smoother ride and more sound dampening. | 47 | 13 | 7,803 |
kcg4dz | 41 | What features currently available in other automakers vehicles would you like to see in a refreshed Model S X Title says all! With the news that the line is being shut down and that this could mean a potential refresh I wanted to see what minor features everyone else is hoping to see in a refreshed Model S X. For me I m really hoping for the following: - RGB ambient lighting I know this is a bit of a gimmick but it is hands down my favorite feature of my E63s! - Cooled seats no one wants a musty bussy - Heated Steering Wheel and arm rests - Real Metal finishes in interior - Surround View Camera - Better cupholders - Apple MagSafe charging - Return of the Sunroof will be a while before we get a roadster and love the wind in my hair While Model S X are in categories all their own the competition has definitely had a lot more innovation when it comes to creature comforts and I m curious to see what else they should add! | The S X already have heated steering wheels FYI. | My 2 biggest wants are foldable rear middle seat and better sound insulation. Can I get that in combination with the new batteries CCS port (EU) and maybe a 17 landscape display i think next car is another S instead of my 3. Wouldn t complain if they made the exterior slightly smaller either. | 37 | 5 | 7,804 |
kcg4dz | 41 | What features currently available in other automakers vehicles would you like to see in a refreshed Model S X Title says all! With the news that the line is being shut down and that this could mean a potential refresh I wanted to see what minor features everyone else is hoping to see in a refreshed Model S X. For me I m really hoping for the following: - RGB ambient lighting I know this is a bit of a gimmick but it is hands down my favorite feature of my E63s! - Cooled seats no one wants a musty bussy - Heated Steering Wheel and arm rests - Real Metal finishes in interior - Surround View Camera - Better cupholders - Apple MagSafe charging - Return of the Sunroof will be a while before we get a roadster and love the wind in my hair While Model S X are in categories all their own the competition has definitely had a lot more innovation when it comes to creature comforts and I m curious to see what else they should add! | The S X already have heated steering wheels FYI. | Cross-traffic warning (when reversing) Solid roof (call me weird but I do not like open sky above me in cars at all. Not even tiny sunroofs.) | 37 | 6 | 7,805 |
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