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85viem | 506 | PSA: Tesla iOS app update 3.3.3 with Siri can now control Model 3. My app just updated and I ve controlled my car using Siri. Make sure to enable use with Siri in the settings app under Tesla. The ones I have tried that works are: unlock my car lock my car flash the headlights and honk the horn. Car has 2018.4.9. Sorry if this was already a known functionality of the app for model 3. | Just confirmed that asking “how much charge is on my car” and “how many miles do I have on my car” will result in Siri letting you know the current charge percentage and range in miles. | Good to know. Thx! | 177 | 3 | 2,206 |
85viem | 506 | PSA: Tesla iOS app update 3.3.3 with Siri can now control Model 3. My app just updated and I ve controlled my car using Siri. Make sure to enable use with Siri in the settings app under Tesla. The ones I have tried that works are: unlock my car lock my car flash the headlights and honk the horn. Car has 2018.4.9. Sorry if this was already a known functionality of the app for model 3. | Just confirmed that asking “how much charge is on my car” and “how many miles do I have on my car” will result in Siri letting you know the current charge percentage and range in miles. | I have iOS app version 3.3.2 and the App Store does not indicate there is a newer version available. How can I get 3.3.3? | 177 | 3 | 2,207 |
861puj | 96 | Model 3 AWD Option wording change Now says Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive without mention of being available with the SR battery. https: forums.tesla.com forum forums awd-delivery-estimate-no-longer-says-choice-220-or-310-mile-range | C mon Tesla just drop the other shoe and release the P model! Because margins I guess. | Mine says the same. I was never contemplating SR anyway though. | 36 | 6 | 2,208 |
865jtn | 657 | Canadian Model 3 Pricing starting at $45 600.... Finally we have some pricing :)! Designed to attain the highest safety ratings in every category Model 3 achieves 354 km of range while starting at only $45 600 before incentives.? Top of this page: https: www.tesla.com en_CA model3 | So this whole next batch of reservations is going to go to Canada to keep from crossing 200 000... | I will admit... a little piece of me still had some hope of an exchange rate break (sorta like other manufacturers GM Nissan etc) | 37 | 11 | 2,209 |
865jtn | 657 | Canadian Model 3 Pricing starting at $45 600.... Finally we have some pricing :)! Designed to attain the highest safety ratings in every category Model 3 achieves 354 km of range while starting at only $45 600 before incentives.? Top of this page: https: www.tesla.com en_CA model3 | Today CEV for BC updated their eligible vehicles to include Tesla s Model 3 LR RWD for MSRP of $58 800cad. Which means the long range option of $9000usd will cost Canadians $13 200cad. Source: https: www.cevforbc.ca sites default files cev_eligible_vehicles_grid_updated_2018_march_21_0.pdf | I will admit... a little piece of me still had some hope of an exchange rate break (sorta like other manufacturers GM Nissan etc) | 37 | 11 | 2,210 |
86c7dv | 67 | Non Owner Online got VIN Got my invite on Feb 28 but dint notice until Mar 2 and ordered it. Midnight silver 19 inch. San diego | This is BS. I m going to make Elon take me on date the next time he decides to fuck me. | Jealous! In a similar situation (got invite on the 28th didn t configure until the 3rd). No VIN yet but I have blue aero wheels. | 70 | 2 | 2,211 |
86llz1 | 156 | Regarding Porsche s statement about similar prices to gas here s a comparison driving a Model 3 on a Supercharge vs a Hyundai Ioniq by state. Yes I know they aren t in the same class. This isn t a bash on Tesla nor is it a be-all end-all in saying they raised prices too much. It s to show people that supercharging really does align more or less with gas prices NOT with electricity prices. And that s fine but the fact that everyone is downvoting anything that s bad about Tesla is getting old. A (2018)Model 3 gets 130 MPGe which is 3.85 mi kWh. If you then take out losses of AC DC conversion (I added back 12% could be wrong as it depends on the charger) we get that it s rated at 4.37 mi kWh coming out of a supercharger. A (middle trim not the 58mpg Blue model) Hyundai Ioniq is rated a 55 mpg. Using these numbers Tesla supercharging rates and gas prices from 3 23 18 I compared the price of a gallon of gas per state with the supercharging cost of 1 kWh or 1 minute of Tier 2. I understand that the cost of those states with Tiers will vary but I couldn t think of a different way to do it this is just a quick visualization. *Final results show that the Ioniq is cheaper in 46 states territories Model 3 in 5.* State|Price Regular|Supercharging|Cost Per Mile Ioniq|Cost Per Mile Model 3|Ratio| :--|--:|--:|--:|--:|--:| Alabama|$3.09|$0.20|$0.06|$0.05|1.226558| Alaska|$2.35|$0.26|$0.04|$0.06|0.717945| Arizona|$2.35|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.847396| Arkansas|$2.50|$0.20|$0.05|$0.05|0.994517| California|$3.45|$0.26|$0.06|$0.06|1.053841| Colorado|$2.45|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.883517| Connecticut|$2.70|$0.26|$0.05|$0.06|0.824001| Delaware|$2.50|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.901939| District of Columbia|$2.80|$0.26|$0.05|$0.06|0.854259| Florida|$2.54|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.91711| Georgia|$2.49|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.897966| Hawaii|$3.51|$0.34|$0.06|$0.08|0.820837| Idaho|$2.53|$0.23|$0.05|$0.05|0.874817| Illinois|$2.70|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.893992| Indiana|$2.64|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.873464| Iowa|$2.60|$0.20|$0.05|$0.05|1.033455| Kansas|$2.43|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.96432| Kentucky|$2.45|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.886407| Louisiana|$2.38|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.944056| Maine|$2.57|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.929752| Maryland|$2.61|$0.23|$0.05|$0.05|0.900384| Massachusetts|$2.57|$0.23|$0.05|$0.05|0.887601| Michigan|$2.66|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.88141| Minnesota|$2.49|$0.21|$0.05|$0.05|0.941861| Mississippi|$2.31|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.915846| Missouri|$2.33|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.926573| Montana|$2.58|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.931919| Nebraska|$2.47|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.981008| Nevada|$2.58|$0.25|$0.05|$0.06|0.8185| New Hampshire|$2.56|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.848962| New Jersey|$2.49|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.825453| New Mexico|$2.61|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.943478| New York|$2.47|$0.24|$0.04|$0.05|0.817175| North Carolina|$2.90|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|1.048951| North Dakota|$2.71|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.978876| Ohio|$2.44|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.882434| Oklahoma|$2.39|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.951208| Oregon|$3.03|$0.24|$0.06|$0.05|1.002596| Pennsylvania|$2.78|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.918825| Rhode Island|$2.58|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.852604| South Carolina|$2.37|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.940877| South Dakota|$2.55|$0.20|$0.05|$0.05|1.012794| Tennessee|$2.39|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.948824| Texas|$2.37|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.94048| Utah|$2.52|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.91133| Vermont|$2.40|$0.24|$0.04|$0.05|0.793667| Virginia|$2.62|$0.21|$0.05|$0.05|0.989919| Washington|$3.11|$0.25|$0.06|$0.06|0.98951| West Virginia|$2.51|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.90808| Wisconsin|$2.56|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.925056| Wyoming|$2.45|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.884601| | OP. I m sorry that most of the replies completely missed your point and are trying to defend Tesla s as cheaper to run than a gasoline car even though you didn t make that argument at all. Everyone else. OP is not saying that gas cars are cheaper than Tesla s for fuel. Look at the top post on the subreddit right now about how Porsche is planning to charge similar rates to gasoline for their own Superchargers or whatever they end up calling them. Most of the posts in that thread are pure outrage saying Porsche is the devil and Tesla would never do such a thing. The OP is pointing out that Tesla is already doing what Porsche is planning to do. Yes the numbers are different when you charge at home. Yes the numbers are different when you drive a Hummer. OP is only comparing Supercharger rates not the actual lifetime cost of fuel for these vehicles. | It seems you compute the prices taking AC DC losses into consideration. Why ? I ve never read anywhere that Tesla is charging user for the kWh it is consuming but only for the kWh it delivers to the cars after losses. Even if it were the case 12% is awfully high for high voltage high current AC DC conversion : this is roughly what I get using the onboard charger on my Model S at 3kW charging. | 125 | 2 | 2,212 |
86llz1 | 156 | Regarding Porsche s statement about similar prices to gas here s a comparison driving a Model 3 on a Supercharge vs a Hyundai Ioniq by state. Yes I know they aren t in the same class. This isn t a bash on Tesla nor is it a be-all end-all in saying they raised prices too much. It s to show people that supercharging really does align more or less with gas prices NOT with electricity prices. And that s fine but the fact that everyone is downvoting anything that s bad about Tesla is getting old. A (2018)Model 3 gets 130 MPGe which is 3.85 mi kWh. If you then take out losses of AC DC conversion (I added back 12% could be wrong as it depends on the charger) we get that it s rated at 4.37 mi kWh coming out of a supercharger. A (middle trim not the 58mpg Blue model) Hyundai Ioniq is rated a 55 mpg. Using these numbers Tesla supercharging rates and gas prices from 3 23 18 I compared the price of a gallon of gas per state with the supercharging cost of 1 kWh or 1 minute of Tier 2. I understand that the cost of those states with Tiers will vary but I couldn t think of a different way to do it this is just a quick visualization. *Final results show that the Ioniq is cheaper in 46 states territories Model 3 in 5.* State|Price Regular|Supercharging|Cost Per Mile Ioniq|Cost Per Mile Model 3|Ratio| :--|--:|--:|--:|--:|--:| Alabama|$3.09|$0.20|$0.06|$0.05|1.226558| Alaska|$2.35|$0.26|$0.04|$0.06|0.717945| Arizona|$2.35|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.847396| Arkansas|$2.50|$0.20|$0.05|$0.05|0.994517| California|$3.45|$0.26|$0.06|$0.06|1.053841| Colorado|$2.45|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.883517| Connecticut|$2.70|$0.26|$0.05|$0.06|0.824001| Delaware|$2.50|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.901939| District of Columbia|$2.80|$0.26|$0.05|$0.06|0.854259| Florida|$2.54|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.91711| Georgia|$2.49|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.897966| Hawaii|$3.51|$0.34|$0.06|$0.08|0.820837| Idaho|$2.53|$0.23|$0.05|$0.05|0.874817| Illinois|$2.70|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.893992| Indiana|$2.64|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.873464| Iowa|$2.60|$0.20|$0.05|$0.05|1.033455| Kansas|$2.43|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.96432| Kentucky|$2.45|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.886407| Louisiana|$2.38|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.944056| Maine|$2.57|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.929752| Maryland|$2.61|$0.23|$0.05|$0.05|0.900384| Massachusetts|$2.57|$0.23|$0.05|$0.05|0.887601| Michigan|$2.66|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.88141| Minnesota|$2.49|$0.21|$0.05|$0.05|0.941861| Mississippi|$2.31|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.915846| Missouri|$2.33|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.926573| Montana|$2.58|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.931919| Nebraska|$2.47|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.981008| Nevada|$2.58|$0.25|$0.05|$0.06|0.8185| New Hampshire|$2.56|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.848962| New Jersey|$2.49|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.825453| New Mexico|$2.61|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.943478| New York|$2.47|$0.24|$0.04|$0.05|0.817175| North Carolina|$2.90|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|1.048951| North Dakota|$2.71|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.978876| Ohio|$2.44|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.882434| Oklahoma|$2.39|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.951208| Oregon|$3.03|$0.24|$0.06|$0.05|1.002596| Pennsylvania|$2.78|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.918825| Rhode Island|$2.58|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.852604| South Carolina|$2.37|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.940877| South Dakota|$2.55|$0.20|$0.05|$0.05|1.012794| Tennessee|$2.39|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.948824| Texas|$2.37|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.94048| Utah|$2.52|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.91133| Vermont|$2.40|$0.24|$0.04|$0.05|0.793667| Virginia|$2.62|$0.21|$0.05|$0.05|0.989919| Washington|$3.11|$0.25|$0.06|$0.06|0.98951| West Virginia|$2.51|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.90808| Wisconsin|$2.56|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.925056| Wyoming|$2.45|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.884601| | OP. I m sorry that most of the replies completely missed your point and are trying to defend Tesla s as cheaper to run than a gasoline car even though you didn t make that argument at all. Everyone else. OP is not saying that gas cars are cheaper than Tesla s for fuel. Look at the top post on the subreddit right now about how Porsche is planning to charge similar rates to gasoline for their own Superchargers or whatever they end up calling them. Most of the posts in that thread are pure outrage saying Porsche is the devil and Tesla would never do such a thing. The OP is pointing out that Tesla is already doing what Porsche is planning to do. Yes the numbers are different when you charge at home. Yes the numbers are different when you drive a Hummer. OP is only comparing Supercharger rates not the actual lifetime cost of fuel for these vehicles. | Great job on this table. Now let s hear the argument about how everyone has their own solar panels and that paying for electricity is for chumps. | 125 | 4 | 2,213 |
86llz1 | 156 | Regarding Porsche s statement about similar prices to gas here s a comparison driving a Model 3 on a Supercharge vs a Hyundai Ioniq by state. Yes I know they aren t in the same class. This isn t a bash on Tesla nor is it a be-all end-all in saying they raised prices too much. It s to show people that supercharging really does align more or less with gas prices NOT with electricity prices. And that s fine but the fact that everyone is downvoting anything that s bad about Tesla is getting old. A (2018)Model 3 gets 130 MPGe which is 3.85 mi kWh. If you then take out losses of AC DC conversion (I added back 12% could be wrong as it depends on the charger) we get that it s rated at 4.37 mi kWh coming out of a supercharger. A (middle trim not the 58mpg Blue model) Hyundai Ioniq is rated a 55 mpg. Using these numbers Tesla supercharging rates and gas prices from 3 23 18 I compared the price of a gallon of gas per state with the supercharging cost of 1 kWh or 1 minute of Tier 2. I understand that the cost of those states with Tiers will vary but I couldn t think of a different way to do it this is just a quick visualization. *Final results show that the Ioniq is cheaper in 46 states territories Model 3 in 5.* State|Price Regular|Supercharging|Cost Per Mile Ioniq|Cost Per Mile Model 3|Ratio| :--|--:|--:|--:|--:|--:| Alabama|$3.09|$0.20|$0.06|$0.05|1.226558| Alaska|$2.35|$0.26|$0.04|$0.06|0.717945| Arizona|$2.35|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.847396| Arkansas|$2.50|$0.20|$0.05|$0.05|0.994517| California|$3.45|$0.26|$0.06|$0.06|1.053841| Colorado|$2.45|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.883517| Connecticut|$2.70|$0.26|$0.05|$0.06|0.824001| Delaware|$2.50|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.901939| District of Columbia|$2.80|$0.26|$0.05|$0.06|0.854259| Florida|$2.54|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.91711| Georgia|$2.49|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.897966| Hawaii|$3.51|$0.34|$0.06|$0.08|0.820837| Idaho|$2.53|$0.23|$0.05|$0.05|0.874817| Illinois|$2.70|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.893992| Indiana|$2.64|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.873464| Iowa|$2.60|$0.20|$0.05|$0.05|1.033455| Kansas|$2.43|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.96432| Kentucky|$2.45|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.886407| Louisiana|$2.38|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.944056| Maine|$2.57|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.929752| Maryland|$2.61|$0.23|$0.05|$0.05|0.900384| Massachusetts|$2.57|$0.23|$0.05|$0.05|0.887601| Michigan|$2.66|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.88141| Minnesota|$2.49|$0.21|$0.05|$0.05|0.941861| Mississippi|$2.31|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.915846| Missouri|$2.33|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.926573| Montana|$2.58|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.931919| Nebraska|$2.47|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.981008| Nevada|$2.58|$0.25|$0.05|$0.06|0.8185| New Hampshire|$2.56|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.848962| New Jersey|$2.49|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.825453| New Mexico|$2.61|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.943478| New York|$2.47|$0.24|$0.04|$0.05|0.817175| North Carolina|$2.90|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|1.048951| North Dakota|$2.71|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.978876| Ohio|$2.44|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.882434| Oklahoma|$2.39|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.951208| Oregon|$3.03|$0.24|$0.06|$0.05|1.002596| Pennsylvania|$2.78|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.918825| Rhode Island|$2.58|$0.24|$0.05|$0.05|0.852604| South Carolina|$2.37|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.940877| South Dakota|$2.55|$0.20|$0.05|$0.05|1.012794| Tennessee|$2.39|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.948824| Texas|$2.37|$0.20|$0.04|$0.05|0.94048| Utah|$2.52|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.91133| Vermont|$2.40|$0.24|$0.04|$0.05|0.793667| Virginia|$2.62|$0.21|$0.05|$0.05|0.989919| Washington|$3.11|$0.25|$0.06|$0.06|0.98951| West Virginia|$2.51|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.90808| Wisconsin|$2.56|$0.22|$0.05|$0.05|0.925056| Wyoming|$2.45|$0.22|$0.04|$0.05|0.884601| | OP. I m sorry that most of the replies completely missed your point and are trying to defend Tesla s as cheaper to run than a gasoline car even though you didn t make that argument at all. Everyone else. OP is not saying that gas cars are cheaper than Tesla s for fuel. Look at the top post on the subreddit right now about how Porsche is planning to charge similar rates to gasoline for their own Superchargers or whatever they end up calling them. Most of the posts in that thread are pure outrage saying Porsche is the devil and Tesla would never do such a thing. The OP is pointing out that Tesla is already doing what Porsche is planning to do. Yes the numbers are different when you charge at home. Yes the numbers are different when you drive a Hummer. OP is only comparing Supercharger rates not the actual lifetime cost of fuel for these vehicles. | A little confused at this data. Why are we subtracting AC DC conversion? The Supercharger is reported once the energy is in the battery is it not? If so losses are transparent to the cost. The Hyundai is 4.5 c mile for petrol at $2.50 and the 3 is 4 c mile. There are a lot of states where petrol is more expensive. Hopefully someone can explain. Thanks. | 125 | 6 | 2,214 |
86ovvp | 199 | TIFU by meeting the CTO of Tesla Motors and not knowing who he was. Happened a couple hours ago. My co-worker and I were hanging outside Reno s FBO on the flight-line side next to a really nice guy with his Tesla. We asked him a couple questions about it looked inside and I asked him if he sold them. He just said he was an engineer that worked on them. I thought that was awesome and didn t think anything of it until we walked back inside. The FBO lady asked us if we knew who that was and she promptly told us. We both felt really dumb. Sorry JB if you ever read this. | Really classy that JB considers himself just another engineer and part of the team at Tesla. | RIP photo op | 187 | 12 | 2,215 |
86ovvp | 199 | TIFU by meeting the CTO of Tesla Motors and not knowing who he was. Happened a couple hours ago. My co-worker and I were hanging outside Reno s FBO on the flight-line side next to a really nice guy with his Tesla. We asked him a couple questions about it looked inside and I asked him if he sold them. He just said he was an engineer that worked on them. I thought that was awesome and didn t think anything of it until we walked back inside. The FBO lady asked us if we knew who that was and she promptly told us. We both felt really dumb. Sorry JB if you ever read this. | Really classy that JB considers himself just another engineer and part of the team at Tesla. | Omg dude you blew it. He s probably gonna read this | 187 | 29 | 2,216 |
86ovvp | 199 | TIFU by meeting the CTO of Tesla Motors and not knowing who he was. Happened a couple hours ago. My co-worker and I were hanging outside Reno s FBO on the flight-line side next to a really nice guy with his Tesla. We asked him a couple questions about it looked inside and I asked him if he sold them. He just said he was an engineer that worked on them. I thought that was awesome and didn t think anything of it until we walked back inside. The FBO lady asked us if we knew who that was and she promptly told us. We both felt really dumb. Sorry JB if you ever read this. | what if you got inside of a dev test car a AP 3.0 P150DL with door pockets? you´d never know | Was he flying his plane? Need to look it up but it s unique in design was a old ww2-vietnam era plane with propeller in the back. | 41 | 9 | 2,217 |
86tm3f | 175 | Production ramp FWIW... my friend works for a company that supplies a certain component for Tesla (nothing too exciting but would rather not say). Yesterday he asked me if I got my reservation called and said Nice. Apparently the tesla production ramp is real now. We re seeing it big time over here. . That s all... | The rate is increasing massively. As a new owner they are barely responding on the phone. My dad took delivery on Friday and they did a group pickup. He was picking up a White LR and there were so many White LRs made that they didn t know which one was his in the delivery center. | Would he comment on about the rates of parts they supply per week without getting into trouble? | 78 | 6 | 2,218 |
86xzbd | 83 | Legacy auto companies can crush Tesla any time they decide to get serious This argument has always bothered me as it minimizes Tesla s competitive advantage. I believe they have unique EV drivetrain expertise that will be exceedingly difficult to catch. They also have an exclusive relationship with one of the world s top battery researchers Jeff Dahn. The latest article on BMW confirms it. They can t compete in EVs and so they decline to scale production. These guys are getting further behind. Scale is what would help them catch up. https: cleantechnica.com 2018 03 23 bmw-pushes-back-ev-mass-production-says-not-profitable-enough-2020 It s classic innovator s dilemma. There s no way the established automakers can catch up. Half of them could be bankrupt in a decade. | > There s no way the established automakers can catch up. A decade ago people would have said there s no way a new manufacturer could succeed in the market. Never is a really long time. | Worth noting in a lot of places the electrical grid can only support one set of fast chargers. The ‘easy places for chargers are largely already taken by Tesla everybody else is going to have more fun. Plus Tesla has working solutions for a weak grid. | 108 | 6 | 2,219 |
86xzbd | 83 | Legacy auto companies can crush Tesla any time they decide to get serious This argument has always bothered me as it minimizes Tesla s competitive advantage. I believe they have unique EV drivetrain expertise that will be exceedingly difficult to catch. They also have an exclusive relationship with one of the world s top battery researchers Jeff Dahn. The latest article on BMW confirms it. They can t compete in EVs and so they decline to scale production. These guys are getting further behind. Scale is what would help them catch up. https: cleantechnica.com 2018 03 23 bmw-pushes-back-ev-mass-production-says-not-profitable-enough-2020 It s classic innovator s dilemma. There s no way the established automakers can catch up. Half of them could be bankrupt in a decade. | > There s no way the established automakers can catch up. A decade ago people would have said there s no way a new manufacturer could succeed in the market. Never is a really long time. | Henry Ford s moving assembly line [drove 80% of the competing automobile manufacturers to bankruptcy](https: www.history.com topics automobiles). Now imagine a machine that builds the machine cranking out novel battery electric vehicles at record speed. Now sprinkle some AI on top of that and add autonomous driving networks that increase the utilization rate of cars by 10X. These next 12 years are going to be an absolute pleasure to watch. | 108 | 19 | 2,220 |
86xzbd | 83 | Legacy auto companies can crush Tesla any time they decide to get serious This argument has always bothered me as it minimizes Tesla s competitive advantage. I believe they have unique EV drivetrain expertise that will be exceedingly difficult to catch. They also have an exclusive relationship with one of the world s top battery researchers Jeff Dahn. The latest article on BMW confirms it. They can t compete in EVs and so they decline to scale production. These guys are getting further behind. Scale is what would help them catch up. https: cleantechnica.com 2018 03 23 bmw-pushes-back-ev-mass-production-says-not-profitable-enough-2020 It s classic innovator s dilemma. There s no way the established automakers can catch up. Half of them could be bankrupt in a decade. | > There s no way the established automakers can catch up. A decade ago people would have said there s no way a new manufacturer could succeed in the market. Never is a really long time. | > They can t compete in EVs and so they decline to scale production. You realize the Leaf was the fastest selling EV in Europe last month right? | 108 | 22 | 2,221 |
871gi2 | 32 | [Discussion] How do panel gaps get caused and how are they fixed? Looking to learn more about how panel gaps occur and possible ways they can be fixed. Is the body panel not stamped correctly or is the assembly procedure off? Would it be possible to disassemble the car and reassemble them more carefully to eliminate panel gaps? | Panel gaps are caused by many factors but the two major ones are stamping quality weld accuracy and tolerances of the hang on parts. First stamping quality. As with all mass manufacturing you can t stamp every part perfect so there are tolerances that are allowed for good parts. However this can be several millimeters for large stamped pieces. Second weld accuracy. With all modern auto manufacturing virtually all of the welding is now done by robots. This is due to robots giving greater accuracy and you don t have to pay robots healthcare. These robots still cannot put every piece in the exact right position so again you have a few millimeters of tolerance when welding these stamped parts together. Lastly hang on parts. Hang on parts both metal and plastic are attached with fasteners bolts or clips are most common. These fastener holes must be oversized to ensure these parts can be hung and adjusted as needed to mean the ideal panel gaps set by the engineering drawings. So again there s are a few millimeters for adjustment. All in all it s based on how these tolerances stack up onto each other. This means you can have parts both large be small based on their nominal dimension fit together to meet the desired expectation. The way you fix these issues is either tighten the tolerances so that the parts are less likely to fall into an undesirable panel gap or you spend more time on line hanging hang-on parts with precision using panel gap fixtures. Let me know if you have more questions. | I think it s like aligning a cabinet door via adjusting the hinge. Edit: Swypo. | 75 | 3 | 2,222 |
871gi2 | 32 | [Discussion] How do panel gaps get caused and how are they fixed? Looking to learn more about how panel gaps occur and possible ways they can be fixed. Is the body panel not stamped correctly or is the assembly procedure off? Would it be possible to disassemble the car and reassemble them more carefully to eliminate panel gaps? | Panel gaps are caused by many factors but the two major ones are stamping quality weld accuracy and tolerances of the hang on parts. First stamping quality. As with all mass manufacturing you can t stamp every part perfect so there are tolerances that are allowed for good parts. However this can be several millimeters for large stamped pieces. Second weld accuracy. With all modern auto manufacturing virtually all of the welding is now done by robots. This is due to robots giving greater accuracy and you don t have to pay robots healthcare. These robots still cannot put every piece in the exact right position so again you have a few millimeters of tolerance when welding these stamped parts together. Lastly hang on parts. Hang on parts both metal and plastic are attached with fasteners bolts or clips are most common. These fastener holes must be oversized to ensure these parts can be hung and adjusted as needed to mean the ideal panel gaps set by the engineering drawings. So again there s are a few millimeters for adjustment. All in all it s based on how these tolerances stack up onto each other. This means you can have parts both large be small based on their nominal dimension fit together to meet the desired expectation. The way you fix these issues is either tighten the tolerances so that the parts are less likely to fall into an undesirable panel gap or you spend more time on line hanging hang-on parts with precision using panel gap fixtures. Let me know if you have more questions. | Just guessing here but when I would work on some 80 s cars and had to take the door off the hinge had to have washers for adjustment when it is closed and also positioned locked into pace so it was flush. I don t know about fenders though hoods normally have an adjustable latch and some adjustable risers on the side. I wish Tesla someone would release how-to to fix all the gaps yourself. I wouldn t care and would actually like the opportunity to not fear my new car by digging into it. | 75 | 4 | 2,223 |
871gi2 | 32 | [Discussion] How do panel gaps get caused and how are they fixed? Looking to learn more about how panel gaps occur and possible ways they can be fixed. Is the body panel not stamped correctly or is the assembly procedure off? Would it be possible to disassemble the car and reassemble them more carefully to eliminate panel gaps? | Panel gaps are caused by many factors but the two major ones are stamping quality weld accuracy and tolerances of the hang on parts. First stamping quality. As with all mass manufacturing you can t stamp every part perfect so there are tolerances that are allowed for good parts. However this can be several millimeters for large stamped pieces. Second weld accuracy. With all modern auto manufacturing virtually all of the welding is now done by robots. This is due to robots giving greater accuracy and you don t have to pay robots healthcare. These robots still cannot put every piece in the exact right position so again you have a few millimeters of tolerance when welding these stamped parts together. Lastly hang on parts. Hang on parts both metal and plastic are attached with fasteners bolts or clips are most common. These fastener holes must be oversized to ensure these parts can be hung and adjusted as needed to mean the ideal panel gaps set by the engineering drawings. So again there s are a few millimeters for adjustment. All in all it s based on how these tolerances stack up onto each other. This means you can have parts both large be small based on their nominal dimension fit together to meet the desired expectation. The way you fix these issues is either tighten the tolerances so that the parts are less likely to fall into an undesirable panel gap or you spend more time on line hanging hang-on parts with precision using panel gap fixtures. Let me know if you have more questions. | My 3 has been in service having panel gaps and alignment adjusted. They have gapping and alignment tools at service. The doors have adjustments that allow moving in X Y Z tilt etc. No idea how they are caused but I do know panel alignment gaps is one of the more challenging aspects to car manufacturing. | 75 | 5 | 2,224 |
874q39 | 44 | Washing your Tesla - looking for recommendations Looking for some recommendations on washing and cosmetic upkeep of my Tesla Model S. | AmmoNYC is truly one of the best places to learn all about detailing and keeping your car clean and scatch free. He mostly uses Foam Cannon + 2 Bucket Method. Watch their stuff.. This video is a really really good place to start that will answer 95% of your questions. https: www.youtube.com watch?v=awLX5qlY-Ts | Are you willing to hand wash? | 40 | 2 | 2,225 |
878b51 | 34 | Bi-weekly TSLA Investor Thread This will post every other Monday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to comment your own investor links or commentary. This thread is specifically intended for TSLA related posts. This thread is meant only for casual discussion regarding TSLA stock. Only generic investing-related topics will be allowed as posts. This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. | Fortunately my experience in crypto has made be immune to emotion from 8% daily drops. Thank goodness. | 262 right now I m lowering all my SL so I don t loose them. | 30 | 2 | 2,226 |
878b51 | 34 | Bi-weekly TSLA Investor Thread This will post every other Monday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to comment your own investor links or commentary. This thread is specifically intended for TSLA related posts. This thread is meant only for casual discussion regarding TSLA stock. Only generic investing-related topics will be allowed as posts. This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. | Fortunately my experience in crypto has made be immune to emotion from 8% daily drops. Thank goodness. | I ve been wondering if Facebook s issues would cause the end of the current bull market based on tech. I m pretty confident in Tesla at this price but I m mostly in cash and options at the moment because I think any movements will be sharp and sudden either way. | 30 | 2 | 2,227 |
878b51 | 34 | Bi-weekly TSLA Investor Thread This will post every other Monday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to comment your own investor links or commentary. This thread is specifically intended for TSLA related posts. This thread is meant only for casual discussion regarding TSLA stock. Only generic investing-related topics will be allowed as posts. This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. | Fortunately my experience in crypto has made be immune to emotion from 8% daily drops. Thank goodness. | Tesla better surprise with those quarterly delivery numbers. When do y all think Musk will reveal the model Y? Something tells me they re further along then they let on. | 30 | 3 | 2,228 |
87d6q3 | 153 | Model 3 just updated to 2018.10.5 and lots of new features. I just updated yesterday and was surprised to get another update today. This update brings my Model 3 to 2018.10.5. Release notes include: * automatic braking maximum speed increased from 50 to 90 mph. * unlocking with phone - now must grab handle for it to unlock. * rearranged touchscreen icons by switching the left vent icons with the music and cell phone icons on the right. * Heated backseats controlled through the AC icon. | An image is worth a thousand words.... :))) | Maybe AP improvements as well? | 29 | 2 | 2,229 |
87i79o | 23 | Pretty Excited...even if it isn t me. So my sister lives in Austin. She sold her Lexus IS awhile ago and also got rid of her Kia Sportage so she s looking for an SUV but she also wants a fun fast car to zip around town in. After glowing about Tesla for years and telling her about the Model X she s going to test drive one today!! She also test drove a Porsche ~~Carrera~~ Cayenne and a Mitsubishi but she said she s saving the Tesla for last since she s sure that s going to be the winner. She s going to text me after the test drive. Fingers crossed that she ll be joining you all! Any questions she should ask? Any knowledge I should pass along to her? Any tips or anything!?? | It is possible that your sister is the first person in history to cross-shop a Porsche Carrerra and Mitsubishi. Good luck with her choice! | Ask her if she floored it. Edit: Can t spell. | 63 | 3 | 2,230 |
87i79o | 23 | Pretty Excited...even if it isn t me. So my sister lives in Austin. She sold her Lexus IS awhile ago and also got rid of her Kia Sportage so she s looking for an SUV but she also wants a fun fast car to zip around town in. After glowing about Tesla for years and telling her about the Model X she s going to test drive one today!! She also test drove a Porsche ~~Carrera~~ Cayenne and a Mitsubishi but she said she s saving the Tesla for last since she s sure that s going to be the winner. She s going to text me after the test drive. Fingers crossed that she ll be joining you all! Any questions she should ask? Any knowledge I should pass along to her? Any tips or anything!?? | It is possible that your sister is the first person in history to cross-shop a Porsche Carrerra and Mitsubishi. Good luck with her choice! | The price difference between her low end choice and high end price is staggering. | 63 | 14 | 2,231 |
87pr48 | 148 | Financial state of Tesla There is a lot of malice being spread about Tesla. The stock maybe over-valued or under-valued but people have fallen to damaging reputation of one of the most innovative companies today. I don t own a Tesla car reservation but I do follow the stock markets and have a tiny position - just thought of sharing the backdrop and why there is so much fuss. There is record amount of short interest in Tesla shares. People short make money when the stock drops. There is a close to 35M shares short which is about **$12B**. There is another **$5B** short exposure people have via options (mostly March 29 and April 20 Put options). Majority of the vocal naysayers have piled in the options (https: seekingalpha.com symbol TSLA analysis-and-news) which is the reason for the deluge of hit jobs. Tesla itself isn t profitable yet. However the picture isn t as grim as pictured. If you look at their annual report (http: files.shareholder.com downloads ABEA-4CW8X0 5974689721x0xS1564590-18-2956 1318605 filing.pdf) page 67 the net cash used for operating the business was $60m. Tesla s business is incredibly capital intensive. In addition to investments in Gigafactory 1 2 Tesla has been expanding their supercharger store and retail footprint. In total they spent $4B in capital investment in 2017. Tesla still has close to $5B in available liquidity. They might need to raise capital towards start of 2019 to keep expanding which should not be hard to do if Model 3 production does ramp up. There is no imminent threat to the company like many would like you to believe. TL DR There is an insane amount of money short via short term options who are spreading negativity (from bankruptcy to build quality to autopilot failures) to push the stock down. The world is going green and the company will do fine. Just take hit job articles with a grain of salt. | Look everyone needs to make their own investment decisions but you re mischaracterizing the risks involved in a Tesla long position and the $60mm cash flow loss is just disingenuous. Page 67 - Cash Flow Statement. Cash Used in Operations includes among the following positive adjustments to cash i.e. increased cash lower cash burn: Depreciation & Amortization (D& A) of $1.6bn Inventory Writedowns of $133mm ($1300 vehicle sold!) Deferred Revenue of $468mm Customer Deposits of $170mm. Let s go through those individually. D& A is an ordinary business expense. This is primarily non-cash capital equipment depreciation that runs through the income statement and gets backed out on the cash flow statement because the capital equipment purchase gets accounted for as a Cash Flow from Investing on p. 67. But this is an ongoing business expense. Tesla will need to buy new machines and tools as the old ones break. That alone brings you to cash flow used for operations of $1.7bn. Inventory Writedowns - this is inventory that Tesla decided was worthless. They already spent the money to buy it so when it gets written down to 0 perversely it ends up as a positive on the cash flow statement. As a young company Tesla writing off $133mm of inventory in a year is bad really bad. It speaks to mismanagement. Deferred Revenue - This is money that Tesla collected but can t yet report as revenues on the income statement because they haven t technically earned it yet. All this means is that future cash flow will be lower than revenues because they already got their money. Customer Deposits - Basically the same thing as deferred revenue. I ll pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today (or in Tesla terms pay me today for a hamburger tomorrow). Tesla collects money in advance of actually providing a product service. Note I m not saying there s anything inherently wrong with that just that the base business is burning a lot more cash than OP s $60mm. Now on the positive side Tesla did burn (spend) $1.5bn on operating lease vehicles. This is customers leasing a vehicle - Tesla basically has to pay the cost of vehicle up front and gets paid back over time through the lease. They could shut this off and it would save them a lot of cash but it also decreases the buyer pool and by extension their unit sales to the extent they can t find a bank that will extend the same terms. Yes there is a lot of money on the short side. But this is for a reason and you ignore it at your peril. Tesla has very complicated financials and you need to dig to get at the truth. A Tesla investment carries risk. They are skating on the edge financially. If they can raise additional capital all will be well and Tesla can continue with their plans. But if they can t this situation is going to deteriorate and Tesla has a real risk of insolvency. That s not a value judgement that s not a critique of their mission that s just finance. The amount of misinformation out there is pissing me off. People need to understand what they re investing in with Tesla. If you believe in Tesla and want to support their mission by all means do it. All I m saying is understand that your downside is severe and be in a position that you re willing and able to accept that. Edit: Wow! Gold! That s a first for me. Thank you very much kind stranger! | This is true all they would need to do is cut back on some of their higher priced endeavors to make ends meet. Shorts being shorts though want to beat up the share price. I personally do think the stock is a bit overvalued at the moment but it s not overvalued enough that the biggest and oldest shorts will avoid losing a lot of money if it drops to the value I have in mind. | 171 | 2 | 2,232 |
87pr48 | 148 | Financial state of Tesla There is a lot of malice being spread about Tesla. The stock maybe over-valued or under-valued but people have fallen to damaging reputation of one of the most innovative companies today. I don t own a Tesla car reservation but I do follow the stock markets and have a tiny position - just thought of sharing the backdrop and why there is so much fuss. There is record amount of short interest in Tesla shares. People short make money when the stock drops. There is a close to 35M shares short which is about **$12B**. There is another **$5B** short exposure people have via options (mostly March 29 and April 20 Put options). Majority of the vocal naysayers have piled in the options (https: seekingalpha.com symbol TSLA analysis-and-news) which is the reason for the deluge of hit jobs. Tesla itself isn t profitable yet. However the picture isn t as grim as pictured. If you look at their annual report (http: files.shareholder.com downloads ABEA-4CW8X0 5974689721x0xS1564590-18-2956 1318605 filing.pdf) page 67 the net cash used for operating the business was $60m. Tesla s business is incredibly capital intensive. In addition to investments in Gigafactory 1 2 Tesla has been expanding their supercharger store and retail footprint. In total they spent $4B in capital investment in 2017. Tesla still has close to $5B in available liquidity. They might need to raise capital towards start of 2019 to keep expanding which should not be hard to do if Model 3 production does ramp up. There is no imminent threat to the company like many would like you to believe. TL DR There is an insane amount of money short via short term options who are spreading negativity (from bankruptcy to build quality to autopilot failures) to push the stock down. The world is going green and the company will do fine. Just take hit job articles with a grain of salt. | Look everyone needs to make their own investment decisions but you re mischaracterizing the risks involved in a Tesla long position and the $60mm cash flow loss is just disingenuous. Page 67 - Cash Flow Statement. Cash Used in Operations includes among the following positive adjustments to cash i.e. increased cash lower cash burn: Depreciation & Amortization (D& A) of $1.6bn Inventory Writedowns of $133mm ($1300 vehicle sold!) Deferred Revenue of $468mm Customer Deposits of $170mm. Let s go through those individually. D& A is an ordinary business expense. This is primarily non-cash capital equipment depreciation that runs through the income statement and gets backed out on the cash flow statement because the capital equipment purchase gets accounted for as a Cash Flow from Investing on p. 67. But this is an ongoing business expense. Tesla will need to buy new machines and tools as the old ones break. That alone brings you to cash flow used for operations of $1.7bn. Inventory Writedowns - this is inventory that Tesla decided was worthless. They already spent the money to buy it so when it gets written down to 0 perversely it ends up as a positive on the cash flow statement. As a young company Tesla writing off $133mm of inventory in a year is bad really bad. It speaks to mismanagement. Deferred Revenue - This is money that Tesla collected but can t yet report as revenues on the income statement because they haven t technically earned it yet. All this means is that future cash flow will be lower than revenues because they already got their money. Customer Deposits - Basically the same thing as deferred revenue. I ll pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today (or in Tesla terms pay me today for a hamburger tomorrow). Tesla collects money in advance of actually providing a product service. Note I m not saying there s anything inherently wrong with that just that the base business is burning a lot more cash than OP s $60mm. Now on the positive side Tesla did burn (spend) $1.5bn on operating lease vehicles. This is customers leasing a vehicle - Tesla basically has to pay the cost of vehicle up front and gets paid back over time through the lease. They could shut this off and it would save them a lot of cash but it also decreases the buyer pool and by extension their unit sales to the extent they can t find a bank that will extend the same terms. Yes there is a lot of money on the short side. But this is for a reason and you ignore it at your peril. Tesla has very complicated financials and you need to dig to get at the truth. A Tesla investment carries risk. They are skating on the edge financially. If they can raise additional capital all will be well and Tesla can continue with their plans. But if they can t this situation is going to deteriorate and Tesla has a real risk of insolvency. That s not a value judgement that s not a critique of their mission that s just finance. The amount of misinformation out there is pissing me off. People need to understand what they re investing in with Tesla. If you believe in Tesla and want to support their mission by all means do it. All I m saying is understand that your downside is severe and be in a position that you re willing and able to accept that. Edit: Wow! Gold! That s a first for me. Thank you very much kind stranger! | What I am afraid of is the macro factors. Whether that is the steel and aluminum tariffs a trade war with China an international crisis due to current leadership... I could go on. Also the fact that even though progress is constantly being made to ramp up model 3 production I still feel like investors are going to hold Tesla s feet to the fire come Q1 report for not living up to their original timeline or to their revised timeline. What s next a revised revised timeline? They should not have given a timeline to begin with. As an investor I just wanna see some good news for once... Instead the Model 3 ramp is always next quarter next quarter next quarter.. Or this contractor dropped the ball or this contractor drop the ball. At this rate I don t think they will hit 5000 until December and for longs so I guess that s fine but come on. I think I am someone the shorts are happy to see and the longer they keep up with their stupid little tactics more beaten down I m going to feel psychologically. The negative news reports the ignorant analysis the hit pieces those will all continue. Having to force myself to keep up with the reality of the situation every day so that I can discern fact from fiction is exhausting. Yet I will not budge until they can at least hit 5 000.. No matter how long it takes. The longer it takes for them to get to 5000 the more money they will need to cover operational expenses. As time goes on I ve become more worried.. even if they are not cash strapped at this particular moment or in this particular quarter. | 171 | 21 | 2,233 |
87pr48 | 148 | Financial state of Tesla There is a lot of malice being spread about Tesla. The stock maybe over-valued or under-valued but people have fallen to damaging reputation of one of the most innovative companies today. I don t own a Tesla car reservation but I do follow the stock markets and have a tiny position - just thought of sharing the backdrop and why there is so much fuss. There is record amount of short interest in Tesla shares. People short make money when the stock drops. There is a close to 35M shares short which is about **$12B**. There is another **$5B** short exposure people have via options (mostly March 29 and April 20 Put options). Majority of the vocal naysayers have piled in the options (https: seekingalpha.com symbol TSLA analysis-and-news) which is the reason for the deluge of hit jobs. Tesla itself isn t profitable yet. However the picture isn t as grim as pictured. If you look at their annual report (http: files.shareholder.com downloads ABEA-4CW8X0 5974689721x0xS1564590-18-2956 1318605 filing.pdf) page 67 the net cash used for operating the business was $60m. Tesla s business is incredibly capital intensive. In addition to investments in Gigafactory 1 2 Tesla has been expanding their supercharger store and retail footprint. In total they spent $4B in capital investment in 2017. Tesla still has close to $5B in available liquidity. They might need to raise capital towards start of 2019 to keep expanding which should not be hard to do if Model 3 production does ramp up. There is no imminent threat to the company like many would like you to believe. TL DR There is an insane amount of money short via short term options who are spreading negativity (from bankruptcy to build quality to autopilot failures) to push the stock down. The world is going green and the company will do fine. Just take hit job articles with a grain of salt. | OP your calculations are absurd. You can t take the dollar delta of derrivitives and add it to the short total. For one its double counting due to delta neutral market makers. Then you have the guys playing Tesla vol without a directional position. You are only counting the short side of their trade and ignoring the long. But more importantly when you blindly blame the shorts you ignore Tesla s fundamentals. The shorts have been there all along nothing has changed from them. They are a constant. I d recommend everyone taking a good look at Tesla s liquidity and remind yourself with how quickly Solar City s liquidity froze up. edit - actually you probably aren t even calculating dollar delta but open interest X strike price. Which would be even worse. | This is true all they would need to do is cut back on some of their higher priced endeavors to make ends meet. Shorts being shorts though want to beat up the share price. I personally do think the stock is a bit overvalued at the moment but it s not overvalued enough that the biggest and oldest shorts will avoid losing a lot of money if it drops to the value I have in mind. | 37 | 2 | 2,234 |
87sj6c | 33 | Problems with repair at Service King In early January I was in an accident with my Model X. I was following at what I thought was a safe distance but apparently that wasn t enough for when the driver in front of me realized that he missed his turn and came to a complete stop in a road. I avoided him off to the right but lost control and hit a curb further up. Its pretty depressing that my first accident is in the first car I ve truly cherished. It s a seriously fantastic vehicle. I called the King of Prussia service center and asked where they recommended I take the car to for repair. They told me that Service King in West Goshen PA would be the best bet. I knew going in that getting the car repaired could take a while due to the availability of parts. I let the first month go by without bothering Service King. Then I placed a call just to get an update. The first call I was told that the person handling our case wasn t there. I had to ask for a callback. They never called. A few days later I called back and received a laughing the parts aren t in but you know how Tesla is they come when they come! . He told us that they can t track the parts. I let another two weeks go and placed another call. Again nobody is there with answers and I would get a call back. I again received no call. A few days later I call back I get the same response from the person handling our case you know Tesla! . So my wife called our delivery specialist and we found out that yes they could track the parts no they didn t order them correctly. The delivery specialist told us he would try to help move things along and call Service King to address the issues. With the delivery specialist telling us he was intervening we called Service King a day later for a true update. The Service King rep was screaming at us on the phone blaming Tesla. It s one of those things that I wish I had recorded. I guess he was angry that we reached out to Tesla? It was hilariously unprofessional I still can t believe the reaction of this man. I think we are pretty level headed people we just wanted an update. We called a total of 5 times in 3 months and 2 of them were just to get a call back. I m trying to see the humor in all of this but at this point I just want my car back. I have zero confidence that this repair is going to be done 100%. Short of having my car removed from Service King and taking to another shop I think my best course of action is to ask the Tesla service center to look it over once complete. TLDR: We ve been trying to be patient but it was made abundantly clear that Service King isn t handling our Tesla repair properly. The employees have been really unprofessional with no call backs and screaming. I recommend you 1) don t crash 2) if you do find another repair facility. | Contact Tesla s [Body Shop Support](https: www.tesla.com support body-shop-support). They exist to deal with shitty repair shops on your behalf. | Interesting. We had a fantastic experience with Service King in FL. The city we went to had 3 locations and the one we called straight up said you should use this other location cause they handle Tesla s better. Wish it was better for you : | 30 | 2 | 2,235 |
87sj6c | 33 | Problems with repair at Service King In early January I was in an accident with my Model X. I was following at what I thought was a safe distance but apparently that wasn t enough for when the driver in front of me realized that he missed his turn and came to a complete stop in a road. I avoided him off to the right but lost control and hit a curb further up. Its pretty depressing that my first accident is in the first car I ve truly cherished. It s a seriously fantastic vehicle. I called the King of Prussia service center and asked where they recommended I take the car to for repair. They told me that Service King in West Goshen PA would be the best bet. I knew going in that getting the car repaired could take a while due to the availability of parts. I let the first month go by without bothering Service King. Then I placed a call just to get an update. The first call I was told that the person handling our case wasn t there. I had to ask for a callback. They never called. A few days later I called back and received a laughing the parts aren t in but you know how Tesla is they come when they come! . He told us that they can t track the parts. I let another two weeks go and placed another call. Again nobody is there with answers and I would get a call back. I again received no call. A few days later I call back I get the same response from the person handling our case you know Tesla! . So my wife called our delivery specialist and we found out that yes they could track the parts no they didn t order them correctly. The delivery specialist told us he would try to help move things along and call Service King to address the issues. With the delivery specialist telling us he was intervening we called Service King a day later for a true update. The Service King rep was screaming at us on the phone blaming Tesla. It s one of those things that I wish I had recorded. I guess he was angry that we reached out to Tesla? It was hilariously unprofessional I still can t believe the reaction of this man. I think we are pretty level headed people we just wanted an update. We called a total of 5 times in 3 months and 2 of them were just to get a call back. I m trying to see the humor in all of this but at this point I just want my car back. I have zero confidence that this repair is going to be done 100%. Short of having my car removed from Service King and taking to another shop I think my best course of action is to ask the Tesla service center to look it over once complete. TLDR: We ve been trying to be patient but it was made abundantly clear that Service King isn t handling our Tesla repair properly. The employees have been really unprofessional with no call backs and screaming. I recommend you 1) don t crash 2) if you do find another repair facility. | Contact Tesla s [Body Shop Support](https: www.tesla.com support body-shop-support). They exist to deal with shitty repair shops on your behalf. | Our car has been hit 3 times by other people. We got it repaired at 3 different places. Service King was the easiest and quickest to deal with. > Then I placed a call just to get an update. I got the impression they were a national chain that had a standardized system to text you updates. Most of our 3-4 week repair was waiting for the parts from Tesla but we would get a status-update text from SK out-of-the-blue at least once a week. | 30 | 3 | 2,236 |
87t18x | 227 | I showed up to my delivery appointment my Model 3 did not. So I showed up to pick up my Model 3 this morning at the Orlando SC and was basically told that they don t know where my car is when it will get there and that it was all Tesla corporate s fault. It never occurred to them to proactively reach out to a delivery appointment when the car was was not ready to be delivered. Only after we explained we needed two cars to get where we were going did they offer up a rental until the car does come in. Has this happened to anyone else? Suggestions on what to do next to make Tesla aware of how smoothly their delivery process is going for some? | Two people in a local Tesla Facebook group have had this happen this week. One guy had it happen twice. First time the car didn t show up. Second time they found an issue and needed to replace a part. He s so frustrated he s literally going to back out of buying the car and get a plug-in Honda instead. I would not do that if it were me but I understand he s entitled to react how he chooses. Tesla needs to solve these issues as they are turning brand advocates into detractors. I was supposed to pick mine up last Saturday. I called Thursday to ensure the car was here due to reading a few of these stories and was able to pick it up a day early. I has the complete opposite experience at the same delivery center so I couldn t be happier. | They send you a survey after delivery but I m not sure how much that affects anything. Go to your Tesla account and escalate for executive review and explain the situation. Things like this is why I always call Tesla twice to confirm before my appointment. I shouldn t have to but Tesla customer service still doesn t have my trust or respect. | 62 | 13 | 2,237 |
87t18x | 227 | I showed up to my delivery appointment my Model 3 did not. So I showed up to pick up my Model 3 this morning at the Orlando SC and was basically told that they don t know where my car is when it will get there and that it was all Tesla corporate s fault. It never occurred to them to proactively reach out to a delivery appointment when the car was was not ready to be delivered. Only after we explained we needed two cars to get where we were going did they offer up a rental until the car does come in. Has this happened to anyone else? Suggestions on what to do next to make Tesla aware of how smoothly their delivery process is going for some? | Two people in a local Tesla Facebook group have had this happen this week. One guy had it happen twice. First time the car didn t show up. Second time they found an issue and needed to replace a part. He s so frustrated he s literally going to back out of buying the car and get a plug-in Honda instead. I would not do that if it were me but I understand he s entitled to react how he chooses. Tesla needs to solve these issues as they are turning brand advocates into detractors. I was supposed to pick mine up last Saturday. I called Thursday to ensure the car was here due to reading a few of these stories and was able to pick it up a day early. I has the complete opposite experience at the same delivery center so I couldn t be happier. | Something similar happened to me. I changed my flights around to leave a trip early to accept delivery. Got a call 3 hours before pickup that my car didn t make it to the service center on time and they had to reschedule later in the week. Tesla customer service isn t everything it s cracked up to be. | 62 | 13 | 2,238 |
87t18x | 227 | I showed up to my delivery appointment my Model 3 did not. So I showed up to pick up my Model 3 this morning at the Orlando SC and was basically told that they don t know where my car is when it will get there and that it was all Tesla corporate s fault. It never occurred to them to proactively reach out to a delivery appointment when the car was was not ready to be delivered. Only after we explained we needed two cars to get where we were going did they offer up a rental until the car does come in. Has this happened to anyone else? Suggestions on what to do next to make Tesla aware of how smoothly their delivery process is going for some? | Two people in a local Tesla Facebook group have had this happen this week. One guy had it happen twice. First time the car didn t show up. Second time they found an issue and needed to replace a part. He s so frustrated he s literally going to back out of buying the car and get a plug-in Honda instead. I would not do that if it were me but I understand he s entitled to react how he chooses. Tesla needs to solve these issues as they are turning brand advocates into detractors. I was supposed to pick mine up last Saturday. I called Thursday to ensure the car was here due to reading a few of these stories and was able to pick it up a day early. I has the complete opposite experience at the same delivery center so I couldn t be happier. | Call your delivery specialist. Mine confirmed it is already in the delivery center | 62 | 18 | 2,239 |
87tgmx | 58 | Service Center Frustration **EDIT2*** Went to appointment and worked with Tesla team. They gave me a brand new Model S to use in the meantime. Very cordial and sympathetic to situation. ***EDIT***** They called me back and have gotten me in for an appointment TODAY! Very excited about that and thankful. Will Update with further details of repair diagnostics. **** Not sure if this is the proper place for this but i wanted to express my frustration with the West Palm Beach FL service center. I m the new owner of a Model 3 and it s had issues. I get it comes with the territory. The frustration is derived from the lack interest in my feedback as the operator of the vehicle. The car came from the factory with no bass in the sound system (mind you i paid for the enhanced sound system upgrade). They have repeatedly told me it was a firmware update issue and the last time I was there (Jan 31) they send me home for the 3rd time with the ole just do the update fix. It did not fix it in fact by the time I got home I had no audio at all! The most recent update has been a phone call today to tell me for the fourth time it s a firmware update but they can get me in 2 weeks from today (-____-) for an appointment. Unbelievable. Talk about poor customer service. At this point i m going to Orlando to work with my brother (Spacex employee and how i got vehicle) to try and get this straightened out. Maybe since he builds rockets they will take his opinion seriously. Sincerely A frustrated owner. | > I m the new owner of a Model 3 and it s had issues. I get it comes with the territory. What a sad state of affairs for this reaction to be the norm for a Tesla customer. | Not too sure if your plan will work but I think Tesla has an executive escalation option somewhere. Dunno how just yet looking into it. Edit: apparently it s part of your account. Log in click support and then executive review. Let us know how your appt goes. | 48 | 6 | 2,240 |
880qyn | 1,353 | Tesla should start to offer 2 factor authentication on the the mobile app There are a quarter of a million of Tesla vehicles that could be access through a mobile app with the credentials of email and password. We should start to request to Tesla to include a 2FA system like Google Authenticator or at least a SMS verification request. I don t feel safe allowing the app with all of those features without a security layer. This [Reddit thread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 58yzcv does_tesla_offer_2_factor_authentication_for ) from a year ago | I think it would be more convenient if the mobile app would only authenticate on setup if it s within Bluetooth range of the car. That would prevent anyone with your email and password from logging in the first time if they re not physically near the car. | I don t understand what 2FA will solve. Are you suggesting it in case someone steals your phone? | 174 | 4 | 2,241 |
880qyn | 1,353 | Tesla should start to offer 2 factor authentication on the the mobile app There are a quarter of a million of Tesla vehicles that could be access through a mobile app with the credentials of email and password. We should start to request to Tesla to include a 2FA system like Google Authenticator or at least a SMS verification request. I don t feel safe allowing the app with all of those features without a security layer. This [Reddit thread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 58yzcv does_tesla_offer_2_factor_authentication_for ) from a year ago | I think it would be more convenient if the mobile app would only authenticate on setup if it s within Bluetooth range of the car. That would prevent anyone with your email and password from logging in the first time if they re not physically near the car. | 2fa on every login would be a royal PITA I think. But maybe either 2fa or a trusted device(the car?) needed to authenticate for the first time on a new device? | 174 | 25 | 2,242 |
880qyn | 1,353 | Tesla should start to offer 2 factor authentication on the the mobile app There are a quarter of a million of Tesla vehicles that could be access through a mobile app with the credentials of email and password. We should start to request to Tesla to include a 2FA system like Google Authenticator or at least a SMS verification request. I don t feel safe allowing the app with all of those features without a security layer. This [Reddit thread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 58yzcv does_tesla_offer_2_factor_authentication_for ) from a year ago | I think it would be more convenient if the mobile app would only authenticate on setup if it s within Bluetooth range of the car. That would prevent anyone with your email and password from logging in the first time if they re not physically near the car. | As a non-owner (for now anyway) do you have to authenticate on the car itself when you enable remote access from the app? When I got my C-Max PHEV and signed up for the mobile app it wouldn t let me get access to the car functions until I responded to a pop-up on the car touchscreen confirming I wanted to enable it on my phone. | 174 | 38 | 2,243 |
886iwo | 35 | Model 3 info I wish I had before delivery yesterday This is very long but I moved TL DR tips to the top. Thanks to all the Redditors in this sub who posted such good information that I used to help myself through the process. **TL DR Tips:** * Have electrical needs worked out prior to delivery. I installed NEMA 14-50R receptacles in the places I need them. A full charge takes about 12 hours at 220 volts because the included charger only runs at 32 amps for the extended range model. The quoted charge rate is 30 miles per hour but it will not be linear as the battery gets full. If you have to use a 110 volt outlet commenter below states a rate of 4 to 7 miles per hour of charging depending on 15 amp or 20 amp circuit availability. It is impractical to charge the car that way for very long. * Get your financing and insurance research done well in advance because you may have very little notice to pick up your car. Of course you could delay the delivery but who wants to do that! Understand the process your lender requires to fund the loan. Unlike a traditional car dealer that offers contingency financing to bridge small gaps in time between taking delivery and funds arriving Tesla doesn t offer that. You either need to have the money settled in Tesla s bank account or have a cashier s check in hand to take the car. * Don t take delivery in Fremont thinking it is the factory. It is a very nice delivery center four miles from the factory but it isn t a factory experience. * If you want to remove the aero wheel covers don t expect it to look pretty for some time because the parts are unavailable and backordered. * The car comes with very short USB-C and Lightning cables with right angle connectors that are only used for charging on the upper mat. They said you could buy more cables but I didn t seem them readily available. Be prepared to buy additional cables before you leave because nothing seems to be free and the parts departments are terrible. **My story** I camped out at the Palo Alto California Tesla location on El Camino Real and was one of the first 50 people to reserve there. I am not a fanboy but figured I would regret not putting in a reservation later. The original estimate was late 2017 then October to December 2017 then January to March 2018. On February 1 2018 my elderly mom was rear ended while stopped for a pedestrian. At about 40 miles per hour her 2016 Hyundai Elantra didn t stand a chance against the large SUV that hit her. Thankfully the pedestrian expected the SUV not to stop and waited. Even though her Elantra was two-thirds of what it used to be it could drive away while the large SUV required a tow. My mom has the expected injuries from such an accident. The car was totaled and she was paid out four business days later much faster than we expected which meant we had to scramble for a solution. I let her use my 2014 Ford Fusion Energi plug-in hybrid loaded with collision avoidance to help her from making the same mistake the SUV that hit her did. I borrowed a car and bike from friends to remain mobile. Shortly thereafter I got the notice that my reservation window would would be March to June 2018. I considered giving up and canceling my reservation but decided to stay the course. Then I received my invitation to order on February 22 2018. I placed the order that night and waited. I ordered a silver extended-range Model 3 with the premium package enhanced autopilot and aero wheels to be delivered near the factory in Fremont. Then I waited and waited and waited. I checked my order page daily looking for an indication that delivery was coming. On Friday March 23 I noticed I had a VIN assigned. From what I heard that meant the vehicle was in production. On Monday March 26 I got a call from a strange number in Nevada and almost rejected the call. It was my delivery coordinator to setup an appointment. She offered me Wednesday March 28 at 5:45 PM to take delivery. That was about 50 hours away. 50 hours to get financing and insurance arranged. I filled out the Tesla Finance application right after I took the call. The process is opaque much like financing through a car dealer. I have an excellent credit score and was expecting the lowest rate available. First offer was 3.09% for 36 months through Chase with about 10% down. I had been shopping around for rates and found two local credit unions offering 1.99%. I had reached out to both awhile back to understand their process. Tech CU told me that to get the 1.99% rate they advertised I needed to be referred through Tesla. San Mateo Credit Union offered me 1.99% for 36 months directly with no money down although I discovered that Tesla cannot handle that scenario. More on that later. I reached back out to Tesla Finance about getting a Tech CU referral. Turns out that in my area Tesla Finance is only shopping loans to Chase and Tech CU. I received the Tech CU offer through Tesla for 1.99% with around 10% down. Although it would be much easier I decided to take the San Mateo Credit Union offer because I wanted to finance as much as possible at that low rate. I ran over to a San Mateo Credit Union branch fill out the membership paperwork and open the required accounts. Thankfully I had enough cash on hand $80 to complete the process. The customer service was fantastic. I got back in touch with the loan department over the phone to complete the process. The Tesla Delivery Coordinator took over on the Tesla side to process the necessary paperwork for the credit union. The credit union s process is to overnight a cashier s check to the dealership. It was about 3:45 PM on Tuesday and that check had to go out that day to be received in time for the appointment the next day. The next notice I received was from the loan officer. She missed the UPS cut off. In a moment of panic I called the loan officer and got her to allow me to pick up the check from her in person. Crisis averted. Simultaneously I was working through insurance scenarios. Thankfully I posted to the Tesla subreddit about a month ago regarding insurance. I found that Ameriprise through Costco and GEICO were the two best options for my situation. Ameriprise required additional information for underwriting and several phone calls. I made several phone calls over two days and eventually gave up and purchased a GEICO policy online with almost no hassle. Ameriprise called me today far after their quoted time window to tell me underwriting had not done anything because he forgot to collect my driver s license and VIN information. Picking up a Tesla is like getting a new iPhone on launch day. The buzz is palpable. They let you in the doors and it is posh with a barista a semi-famous actress giving demonstrations and lots of lights. You first check in and they note your appearance in their system so they can track you down when your car is ready. I removed my hat which caused them to put in extra work when it was time to see the car. Once it is your turn the person detailing your car finds you and takes you into the delivery room. Dozens of cars in lined up with spotlights highlighting the cars in a rather fabulous way not like a bunch of cars in a parking lot. You inspect the car and note any issues. This car had a few minor panel and window alignment issues that we noted to be corrected by a service center later. She also has you adjust the mirrors and seat then save the settings. It was less instruction than I would have preferred but they were busy. Next step is working with the person who handles the paperwork. In about 20 minutes that is all complete and you are escorted to the valet. The valet walks you to the vehicle hands you the keys and gives you some minor instruction. You try to pull away quickly so you do not get your car dented by the clown in the car next to yours. Total time was about an hour and a half. Driving home was unusual. Autopilot does not function until after you drive tens of miles. It felt like I was driving a go kart in a video game with the feedback systems and sound broken. You press on the accelerator and the car hauls moves fast. You let off and it slows down very quickly. It felt like a dream state because it was so different than a normal car. Around the 50 mile mark autopilot started to function although I do not think it was fully calibrated. Automatic lane changes worked too. There have only been two area for which I have been disappointed. The aero wheels do not come with the center hub cover about the size of a quarter or nice lug nuts. They take something beautiful the painted wheel and make it rather ugly by neglecting some minor components. Those components are for sale on the Tesla website for $35 but are completely out of stock online and in all Tesla service centers. They are backordered too. Unfortunately the hubcaps are designed to attach to the center hub hole. If you do put on the $35 cap kit you have to remove the center caps when you want to replace the hubcaps. Some people drill holes in the caps and another guy used duct tape to pull them off. Neither solution is elegant. The other gripe is that the included power cable will only charge at 32 amps not the 48 amps the built-in charger can handle. To get 48-amp charging you have to spend between $500 and $1000 to either get a Tesla Wall Charger or a high-capacity EV charger. Thus far I have only found a two EV chargers support that much power. I decided it isn t worth paying that much to have it charge 20% faster. | Thanks for the write up! Very helpful | Glad you were able to get everything straightened out. Besides all the hassle how are you enjoying the new ride!? | 38 | 3 | 2,244 |
886iwo | 35 | Model 3 info I wish I had before delivery yesterday This is very long but I moved TL DR tips to the top. Thanks to all the Redditors in this sub who posted such good information that I used to help myself through the process. **TL DR Tips:** * Have electrical needs worked out prior to delivery. I installed NEMA 14-50R receptacles in the places I need them. A full charge takes about 12 hours at 220 volts because the included charger only runs at 32 amps for the extended range model. The quoted charge rate is 30 miles per hour but it will not be linear as the battery gets full. If you have to use a 110 volt outlet commenter below states a rate of 4 to 7 miles per hour of charging depending on 15 amp or 20 amp circuit availability. It is impractical to charge the car that way for very long. * Get your financing and insurance research done well in advance because you may have very little notice to pick up your car. Of course you could delay the delivery but who wants to do that! Understand the process your lender requires to fund the loan. Unlike a traditional car dealer that offers contingency financing to bridge small gaps in time between taking delivery and funds arriving Tesla doesn t offer that. You either need to have the money settled in Tesla s bank account or have a cashier s check in hand to take the car. * Don t take delivery in Fremont thinking it is the factory. It is a very nice delivery center four miles from the factory but it isn t a factory experience. * If you want to remove the aero wheel covers don t expect it to look pretty for some time because the parts are unavailable and backordered. * The car comes with very short USB-C and Lightning cables with right angle connectors that are only used for charging on the upper mat. They said you could buy more cables but I didn t seem them readily available. Be prepared to buy additional cables before you leave because nothing seems to be free and the parts departments are terrible. **My story** I camped out at the Palo Alto California Tesla location on El Camino Real and was one of the first 50 people to reserve there. I am not a fanboy but figured I would regret not putting in a reservation later. The original estimate was late 2017 then October to December 2017 then January to March 2018. On February 1 2018 my elderly mom was rear ended while stopped for a pedestrian. At about 40 miles per hour her 2016 Hyundai Elantra didn t stand a chance against the large SUV that hit her. Thankfully the pedestrian expected the SUV not to stop and waited. Even though her Elantra was two-thirds of what it used to be it could drive away while the large SUV required a tow. My mom has the expected injuries from such an accident. The car was totaled and she was paid out four business days later much faster than we expected which meant we had to scramble for a solution. I let her use my 2014 Ford Fusion Energi plug-in hybrid loaded with collision avoidance to help her from making the same mistake the SUV that hit her did. I borrowed a car and bike from friends to remain mobile. Shortly thereafter I got the notice that my reservation window would would be March to June 2018. I considered giving up and canceling my reservation but decided to stay the course. Then I received my invitation to order on February 22 2018. I placed the order that night and waited. I ordered a silver extended-range Model 3 with the premium package enhanced autopilot and aero wheels to be delivered near the factory in Fremont. Then I waited and waited and waited. I checked my order page daily looking for an indication that delivery was coming. On Friday March 23 I noticed I had a VIN assigned. From what I heard that meant the vehicle was in production. On Monday March 26 I got a call from a strange number in Nevada and almost rejected the call. It was my delivery coordinator to setup an appointment. She offered me Wednesday March 28 at 5:45 PM to take delivery. That was about 50 hours away. 50 hours to get financing and insurance arranged. I filled out the Tesla Finance application right after I took the call. The process is opaque much like financing through a car dealer. I have an excellent credit score and was expecting the lowest rate available. First offer was 3.09% for 36 months through Chase with about 10% down. I had been shopping around for rates and found two local credit unions offering 1.99%. I had reached out to both awhile back to understand their process. Tech CU told me that to get the 1.99% rate they advertised I needed to be referred through Tesla. San Mateo Credit Union offered me 1.99% for 36 months directly with no money down although I discovered that Tesla cannot handle that scenario. More on that later. I reached back out to Tesla Finance about getting a Tech CU referral. Turns out that in my area Tesla Finance is only shopping loans to Chase and Tech CU. I received the Tech CU offer through Tesla for 1.99% with around 10% down. Although it would be much easier I decided to take the San Mateo Credit Union offer because I wanted to finance as much as possible at that low rate. I ran over to a San Mateo Credit Union branch fill out the membership paperwork and open the required accounts. Thankfully I had enough cash on hand $80 to complete the process. The customer service was fantastic. I got back in touch with the loan department over the phone to complete the process. The Tesla Delivery Coordinator took over on the Tesla side to process the necessary paperwork for the credit union. The credit union s process is to overnight a cashier s check to the dealership. It was about 3:45 PM on Tuesday and that check had to go out that day to be received in time for the appointment the next day. The next notice I received was from the loan officer. She missed the UPS cut off. In a moment of panic I called the loan officer and got her to allow me to pick up the check from her in person. Crisis averted. Simultaneously I was working through insurance scenarios. Thankfully I posted to the Tesla subreddit about a month ago regarding insurance. I found that Ameriprise through Costco and GEICO were the two best options for my situation. Ameriprise required additional information for underwriting and several phone calls. I made several phone calls over two days and eventually gave up and purchased a GEICO policy online with almost no hassle. Ameriprise called me today far after their quoted time window to tell me underwriting had not done anything because he forgot to collect my driver s license and VIN information. Picking up a Tesla is like getting a new iPhone on launch day. The buzz is palpable. They let you in the doors and it is posh with a barista a semi-famous actress giving demonstrations and lots of lights. You first check in and they note your appearance in their system so they can track you down when your car is ready. I removed my hat which caused them to put in extra work when it was time to see the car. Once it is your turn the person detailing your car finds you and takes you into the delivery room. Dozens of cars in lined up with spotlights highlighting the cars in a rather fabulous way not like a bunch of cars in a parking lot. You inspect the car and note any issues. This car had a few minor panel and window alignment issues that we noted to be corrected by a service center later. She also has you adjust the mirrors and seat then save the settings. It was less instruction than I would have preferred but they were busy. Next step is working with the person who handles the paperwork. In about 20 minutes that is all complete and you are escorted to the valet. The valet walks you to the vehicle hands you the keys and gives you some minor instruction. You try to pull away quickly so you do not get your car dented by the clown in the car next to yours. Total time was about an hour and a half. Driving home was unusual. Autopilot does not function until after you drive tens of miles. It felt like I was driving a go kart in a video game with the feedback systems and sound broken. You press on the accelerator and the car hauls moves fast. You let off and it slows down very quickly. It felt like a dream state because it was so different than a normal car. Around the 50 mile mark autopilot started to function although I do not think it was fully calibrated. Automatic lane changes worked too. There have only been two area for which I have been disappointed. The aero wheels do not come with the center hub cover about the size of a quarter or nice lug nuts. They take something beautiful the painted wheel and make it rather ugly by neglecting some minor components. Those components are for sale on the Tesla website for $35 but are completely out of stock online and in all Tesla service centers. They are backordered too. Unfortunately the hubcaps are designed to attach to the center hub hole. If you do put on the $35 cap kit you have to remove the center caps when you want to replace the hubcaps. Some people drill holes in the caps and another guy used duct tape to pull them off. Neither solution is elegant. The other gripe is that the included power cable will only charge at 32 amps not the 48 amps the built-in charger can handle. To get 48-amp charging you have to spend between $500 and $1000 to either get a Tesla Wall Charger or a high-capacity EV charger. Thus far I have only found a two EV chargers support that much power. I decided it isn t worth paying that much to have it charge 20% faster. | Thanks for the write up! Very helpful | Who was the semi-famous actress giving demonstrations? | 38 | 6 | 2,245 |
886iwo | 35 | Model 3 info I wish I had before delivery yesterday This is very long but I moved TL DR tips to the top. Thanks to all the Redditors in this sub who posted such good information that I used to help myself through the process. **TL DR Tips:** * Have electrical needs worked out prior to delivery. I installed NEMA 14-50R receptacles in the places I need them. A full charge takes about 12 hours at 220 volts because the included charger only runs at 32 amps for the extended range model. The quoted charge rate is 30 miles per hour but it will not be linear as the battery gets full. If you have to use a 110 volt outlet commenter below states a rate of 4 to 7 miles per hour of charging depending on 15 amp or 20 amp circuit availability. It is impractical to charge the car that way for very long. * Get your financing and insurance research done well in advance because you may have very little notice to pick up your car. Of course you could delay the delivery but who wants to do that! Understand the process your lender requires to fund the loan. Unlike a traditional car dealer that offers contingency financing to bridge small gaps in time between taking delivery and funds arriving Tesla doesn t offer that. You either need to have the money settled in Tesla s bank account or have a cashier s check in hand to take the car. * Don t take delivery in Fremont thinking it is the factory. It is a very nice delivery center four miles from the factory but it isn t a factory experience. * If you want to remove the aero wheel covers don t expect it to look pretty for some time because the parts are unavailable and backordered. * The car comes with very short USB-C and Lightning cables with right angle connectors that are only used for charging on the upper mat. They said you could buy more cables but I didn t seem them readily available. Be prepared to buy additional cables before you leave because nothing seems to be free and the parts departments are terrible. **My story** I camped out at the Palo Alto California Tesla location on El Camino Real and was one of the first 50 people to reserve there. I am not a fanboy but figured I would regret not putting in a reservation later. The original estimate was late 2017 then October to December 2017 then January to March 2018. On February 1 2018 my elderly mom was rear ended while stopped for a pedestrian. At about 40 miles per hour her 2016 Hyundai Elantra didn t stand a chance against the large SUV that hit her. Thankfully the pedestrian expected the SUV not to stop and waited. Even though her Elantra was two-thirds of what it used to be it could drive away while the large SUV required a tow. My mom has the expected injuries from such an accident. The car was totaled and she was paid out four business days later much faster than we expected which meant we had to scramble for a solution. I let her use my 2014 Ford Fusion Energi plug-in hybrid loaded with collision avoidance to help her from making the same mistake the SUV that hit her did. I borrowed a car and bike from friends to remain mobile. Shortly thereafter I got the notice that my reservation window would would be March to June 2018. I considered giving up and canceling my reservation but decided to stay the course. Then I received my invitation to order on February 22 2018. I placed the order that night and waited. I ordered a silver extended-range Model 3 with the premium package enhanced autopilot and aero wheels to be delivered near the factory in Fremont. Then I waited and waited and waited. I checked my order page daily looking for an indication that delivery was coming. On Friday March 23 I noticed I had a VIN assigned. From what I heard that meant the vehicle was in production. On Monday March 26 I got a call from a strange number in Nevada and almost rejected the call. It was my delivery coordinator to setup an appointment. She offered me Wednesday March 28 at 5:45 PM to take delivery. That was about 50 hours away. 50 hours to get financing and insurance arranged. I filled out the Tesla Finance application right after I took the call. The process is opaque much like financing through a car dealer. I have an excellent credit score and was expecting the lowest rate available. First offer was 3.09% for 36 months through Chase with about 10% down. I had been shopping around for rates and found two local credit unions offering 1.99%. I had reached out to both awhile back to understand their process. Tech CU told me that to get the 1.99% rate they advertised I needed to be referred through Tesla. San Mateo Credit Union offered me 1.99% for 36 months directly with no money down although I discovered that Tesla cannot handle that scenario. More on that later. I reached back out to Tesla Finance about getting a Tech CU referral. Turns out that in my area Tesla Finance is only shopping loans to Chase and Tech CU. I received the Tech CU offer through Tesla for 1.99% with around 10% down. Although it would be much easier I decided to take the San Mateo Credit Union offer because I wanted to finance as much as possible at that low rate. I ran over to a San Mateo Credit Union branch fill out the membership paperwork and open the required accounts. Thankfully I had enough cash on hand $80 to complete the process. The customer service was fantastic. I got back in touch with the loan department over the phone to complete the process. The Tesla Delivery Coordinator took over on the Tesla side to process the necessary paperwork for the credit union. The credit union s process is to overnight a cashier s check to the dealership. It was about 3:45 PM on Tuesday and that check had to go out that day to be received in time for the appointment the next day. The next notice I received was from the loan officer. She missed the UPS cut off. In a moment of panic I called the loan officer and got her to allow me to pick up the check from her in person. Crisis averted. Simultaneously I was working through insurance scenarios. Thankfully I posted to the Tesla subreddit about a month ago regarding insurance. I found that Ameriprise through Costco and GEICO were the two best options for my situation. Ameriprise required additional information for underwriting and several phone calls. I made several phone calls over two days and eventually gave up and purchased a GEICO policy online with almost no hassle. Ameriprise called me today far after their quoted time window to tell me underwriting had not done anything because he forgot to collect my driver s license and VIN information. Picking up a Tesla is like getting a new iPhone on launch day. The buzz is palpable. They let you in the doors and it is posh with a barista a semi-famous actress giving demonstrations and lots of lights. You first check in and they note your appearance in their system so they can track you down when your car is ready. I removed my hat which caused them to put in extra work when it was time to see the car. Once it is your turn the person detailing your car finds you and takes you into the delivery room. Dozens of cars in lined up with spotlights highlighting the cars in a rather fabulous way not like a bunch of cars in a parking lot. You inspect the car and note any issues. This car had a few minor panel and window alignment issues that we noted to be corrected by a service center later. She also has you adjust the mirrors and seat then save the settings. It was less instruction than I would have preferred but they were busy. Next step is working with the person who handles the paperwork. In about 20 minutes that is all complete and you are escorted to the valet. The valet walks you to the vehicle hands you the keys and gives you some minor instruction. You try to pull away quickly so you do not get your car dented by the clown in the car next to yours. Total time was about an hour and a half. Driving home was unusual. Autopilot does not function until after you drive tens of miles. It felt like I was driving a go kart in a video game with the feedback systems and sound broken. You press on the accelerator and the car hauls moves fast. You let off and it slows down very quickly. It felt like a dream state because it was so different than a normal car. Around the 50 mile mark autopilot started to function although I do not think it was fully calibrated. Automatic lane changes worked too. There have only been two area for which I have been disappointed. The aero wheels do not come with the center hub cover about the size of a quarter or nice lug nuts. They take something beautiful the painted wheel and make it rather ugly by neglecting some minor components. Those components are for sale on the Tesla website for $35 but are completely out of stock online and in all Tesla service centers. They are backordered too. Unfortunately the hubcaps are designed to attach to the center hub hole. If you do put on the $35 cap kit you have to remove the center caps when you want to replace the hubcaps. Some people drill holes in the caps and another guy used duct tape to pull them off. Neither solution is elegant. The other gripe is that the included power cable will only charge at 32 amps not the 48 amps the built-in charger can handle. To get 48-amp charging you have to spend between $500 and $1000 to either get a Tesla Wall Charger or a high-capacity EV charger. Thus far I have only found a two EV chargers support that much power. I decided it isn t worth paying that much to have it charge 20% faster. | Thanks for the write up! Very helpful | Thanks for sharing the SMCU info. I wonder if they are willing to do a longer term at 1.99%. | 38 | 6 | 2,246 |
88dmmp | 252 | 2018.12 brings AP steering wheel controls to Model 3 > 18.12 Release Notes: > > Model 3: Steering wheel button updates For your convenience we ve updated the functions of the scroll buttons on the steering wheel. The right scroll button now lets you quickly adjust Traffic-Aware Cruise Control settings. To increase or decrease the set cruising speed roll the right button up or down. To adjust the follow distance between you and the vehicle ahead press the right button to the left or right. You can still adjust these settings from the touchscreen and press down on the button to activate voice commands. > > The left scroll button now lets you adjust your Model 3 side mirrors and steering wheel. Start by tapping the Controls icon on the bottom left corner of the touchscreen and then tap Quick Controls > Adjustments > > To adjust the mirrors tap Mirrors and select the LEFTor RIGHT mirror icon. Then scroll the left button up or down or press it left or right. > > To adjust the steering wheel tap Steering Wheel and scroll the left button up or down or press it left or right. From: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 2648819 | You linked to my TMC post. To be clear this hasn t been verified. Someone posted on TMC that those were the release notes however I can t confirm that Model 3s are getting this update and this was based off someone that mentioned those release notes but no one else verified them yet. The notes were originally posted here: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 2645682 I m hoping someone can confirm that these are accurate. EV-FW is not showing any model 3s with that firmware. | Didn t the scroll wheels adjust the mirrors and steering wheel in the way described already? | 37 | 3 | 2,247 |
88i2z8 | 36 | [Discussion] Why haters are hoping for Tesla to go bankrupt? What can we do to prevent this? If Tesla goes bankrupt I see the world is going backwards and other automakers will be less eager to push for electrification. Why don t they care about the future of this world? Sure money and profitability is important but few billions losses surely are insignificant compared to a better future which our children and grandchildren will inherit. What can we do to prevent this from happening? | Take heart. Apple was in a perilous situation back in August of 1997 and [a miracle occurred.](https: www.google.com amp s www.cnbc.com amp 2017 08 29 steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-what-happened-when-microsoft-saved-apple.html) If Tesla becomes insolvent due to poor fundamentals and financial management the cars are still great the brand has a lot of X Factor value and the mission is one people believe in. Those things all have value and Tesla will raise more money. If they screw those things up that s another story. As has been mentioned here before Elon needs the world s best COO. | At least Bloomberg Model 3 Tracker (https: www.bloomberg.com graphics 2018-tesla-tracker ) is the most optimistic report so far. They are trying to report positive Model 3 production rate projections. | 81 | 3 | 2,248 |
88i2z8 | 36 | [Discussion] Why haters are hoping for Tesla to go bankrupt? What can we do to prevent this? If Tesla goes bankrupt I see the world is going backwards and other automakers will be less eager to push for electrification. Why don t they care about the future of this world? Sure money and profitability is important but few billions losses surely are insignificant compared to a better future which our children and grandchildren will inherit. What can we do to prevent this from happening? | Take heart. Apple was in a perilous situation back in August of 1997 and [a miracle occurred.](https: www.google.com amp s www.cnbc.com amp 2017 08 29 steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-what-happened-when-microsoft-saved-apple.html) If Tesla becomes insolvent due to poor fundamentals and financial management the cars are still great the brand has a lot of X Factor value and the mission is one people believe in. Those things all have value and Tesla will raise more money. If they screw those things up that s another story. As has been mentioned here before Elon needs the world s best COO. | what we can do to prevent this? buy a model s or x. also if tesla went bankrupt i think either amazon alphabet or apple would at least show an interest in buying tesla. imagine them being allowed to burn more cash in the next few years without having to worry about it. :D | 81 | 6 | 2,249 |
88i2z8 | 36 | [Discussion] Why haters are hoping for Tesla to go bankrupt? What can we do to prevent this? If Tesla goes bankrupt I see the world is going backwards and other automakers will be less eager to push for electrification. Why don t they care about the future of this world? Sure money and profitability is important but few billions losses surely are insignificant compared to a better future which our children and grandchildren will inherit. What can we do to prevent this from happening? | Take heart. Apple was in a perilous situation back in August of 1997 and [a miracle occurred.](https: www.google.com amp s www.cnbc.com amp 2017 08 29 steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-what-happened-when-microsoft-saved-apple.html) If Tesla becomes insolvent due to poor fundamentals and financial management the cars are still great the brand has a lot of X Factor value and the mission is one people believe in. Those things all have value and Tesla will raise more money. If they screw those things up that s another story. As has been mentioned here before Elon needs the world s best COO. | In terms of what we can do buying Tesla products and shares is all we can do. I think the haters come from multiple motivations .. there is a spectrum of opinion not all critics are haters. It is mainly down to Tesla to derive sufficient income to meet expenses and interest payments.. I m not that negative demand for all Tesla products is strong and will remain strong. The need to get better at producing products to meet that demand | 81 | 8 | 2,250 |
88o8v0 | 22 | April 2018 - Experience Megathread **Photos intended for this thread:** - Personal Experiences - Vehicle Sightings (S 3 X) - [Latest Model 3 VIN Spottings](https: blfire.lima-city.de ) - Order Confirmations - Delivery Day Photos - Delivery Transport Photos - Vehicle Customizations - Blogs Vlogs + Racing Videos - Vanity Plates - Toy items Baked goods \\> > **[Upload your image(s) here and share the links below](https: imgur.com upload).** < < [Mar](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 812zqv march_2018_experience_megathread ) | [Feb](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7uirbc february_2018_experiences_megathread ) | [Jan](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7ndeak january_2018_experiences_megathread ) | I live in San Diego I ordered my Model 3 on 4 1 at 10am was a non-owner configured on 3 22 and picked up today 4 16. Here are some thoughts: * First the car is STUNNING to look at. * The car “orientation” was very helpful and pretty much covers most technical items on the checklist. * The financing aspect could have been better. Long story short I financed and “paid” my down payment via ACH it turned out it wasn t paid and I had to pay again via ACH. They said it went through in the end and I got my car. I was able to download the Tesla app and see my new car even early on in this fiasco so there s that at least. * The screen had scuffs scratches and looked terribly colorful with sunglasses until I took off the screen protector. Turns out the screen was perfectly fine underneath that subtle film which I somehow didn t notice until sunset later. * There was some extra wax on the sonar lids that they removed for me on the spot. * The car has AMAZING kick to it when moving! Seriously it s a no-lag instant above-average acceleration at any speed. It was dangerously fun to do on the highway and I had to reduce my speed quite a few times. * Autopilot started to work at 41 miles. I laughed in glee and disbelief as it drove itself at 70 mph along curvy highways. * Regen is more aggressive that I imagined - like medium braking. I enjoyed it because it enabled one-pedal driving. * The sales rep told me that I have to schedule a follow-up appt to install the front plate later when I get it. My Tesla account now showed the ability to schedule my car and appointment times unfortunately overlap with work: M-F 8am-6pm. It s the price you pay for a Tesla I guess. * The interior had no flaws and I m really happy with how everything felt and functioned. * The car is an absolute dream to own and that giant screen is perfect for navigating. This car feels to other cars what the iPhone felt like to other phones when it first came out. They re going to be endangered species soon! * The sound is SO GOOD! It beats other “premium” sound packages by a lot. * I m shocked by the number of settings you can change. Steering to stiff? No problem- make it looser. Acceleration too much? No problem- make it “chill”. The car is awkwardly still in drive? No problem turn on “creep”. It s really cool how much leeway you have in customizing your car s performance with a few taps. Lastly here s a picture of my boyfriend and me seriously happy with this car: http: imgur.com 9YbAVmH | I saw three Model 3 s on the road today in Brentwood TN! I ve seen some at the service center before but this was my first time seeing any I m the wild so it was exciting to see three different ones in the span of an hour. Waiting for my VIN. | 30 | 2 | 2,251 |
88o8v0 | 22 | April 2018 - Experience Megathread **Photos intended for this thread:** - Personal Experiences - Vehicle Sightings (S 3 X) - [Latest Model 3 VIN Spottings](https: blfire.lima-city.de ) - Order Confirmations - Delivery Day Photos - Delivery Transport Photos - Vehicle Customizations - Blogs Vlogs + Racing Videos - Vanity Plates - Toy items Baked goods \\> > **[Upload your image(s) here and share the links below](https: imgur.com upload).** < < [Mar](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 812zqv march_2018_experience_megathread ) | [Feb](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7uirbc february_2018_experiences_megathread ) | [Jan](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7ndeak january_2018_experiences_megathread ) | I live in San Diego I ordered my Model 3 on 4 1 at 10am was a non-owner configured on 3 22 and picked up today 4 16. Here are some thoughts: * First the car is STUNNING to look at. * The car “orientation” was very helpful and pretty much covers most technical items on the checklist. * The financing aspect could have been better. Long story short I financed and “paid” my down payment via ACH it turned out it wasn t paid and I had to pay again via ACH. They said it went through in the end and I got my car. I was able to download the Tesla app and see my new car even early on in this fiasco so there s that at least. * The screen had scuffs scratches and looked terribly colorful with sunglasses until I took off the screen protector. Turns out the screen was perfectly fine underneath that subtle film which I somehow didn t notice until sunset later. * There was some extra wax on the sonar lids that they removed for me on the spot. * The car has AMAZING kick to it when moving! Seriously it s a no-lag instant above-average acceleration at any speed. It was dangerously fun to do on the highway and I had to reduce my speed quite a few times. * Autopilot started to work at 41 miles. I laughed in glee and disbelief as it drove itself at 70 mph along curvy highways. * Regen is more aggressive that I imagined - like medium braking. I enjoyed it because it enabled one-pedal driving. * The sales rep told me that I have to schedule a follow-up appt to install the front plate later when I get it. My Tesla account now showed the ability to schedule my car and appointment times unfortunately overlap with work: M-F 8am-6pm. It s the price you pay for a Tesla I guess. * The interior had no flaws and I m really happy with how everything felt and functioned. * The car is an absolute dream to own and that giant screen is perfect for navigating. This car feels to other cars what the iPhone felt like to other phones when it first came out. They re going to be endangered species soon! * The sound is SO GOOD! It beats other “premium” sound packages by a lot. * I m shocked by the number of settings you can change. Steering to stiff? No problem- make it looser. Acceleration too much? No problem- make it “chill”. The car is awkwardly still in drive? No problem turn on “creep”. It s really cool how much leeway you have in customizing your car s performance with a few taps. Lastly here s a picture of my boyfriend and me seriously happy with this car: http: imgur.com 9YbAVmH | Another Model 3 sighting in Houston! https: imgur.com a qVac9 Added to Bloomberg VIN tracker. I don t think vinbot works anymore but still gonna try: !vinbot Model 3 #8045 | 30 | 2 | 2,252 |
88o8v0 | 22 | April 2018 - Experience Megathread **Photos intended for this thread:** - Personal Experiences - Vehicle Sightings (S 3 X) - [Latest Model 3 VIN Spottings](https: blfire.lima-city.de ) - Order Confirmations - Delivery Day Photos - Delivery Transport Photos - Vehicle Customizations - Blogs Vlogs + Racing Videos - Vanity Plates - Toy items Baked goods \\> > **[Upload your image(s) here and share the links below](https: imgur.com upload).** < < [Mar](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 812zqv march_2018_experience_megathread ) | [Feb](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7uirbc february_2018_experiences_megathread ) | [Jan](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7ndeak january_2018_experiences_megathread ) | I live in San Diego I ordered my Model 3 on 4 1 at 10am was a non-owner configured on 3 22 and picked up today 4 16. Here are some thoughts: * First the car is STUNNING to look at. * The car “orientation” was very helpful and pretty much covers most technical items on the checklist. * The financing aspect could have been better. Long story short I financed and “paid” my down payment via ACH it turned out it wasn t paid and I had to pay again via ACH. They said it went through in the end and I got my car. I was able to download the Tesla app and see my new car even early on in this fiasco so there s that at least. * The screen had scuffs scratches and looked terribly colorful with sunglasses until I took off the screen protector. Turns out the screen was perfectly fine underneath that subtle film which I somehow didn t notice until sunset later. * There was some extra wax on the sonar lids that they removed for me on the spot. * The car has AMAZING kick to it when moving! Seriously it s a no-lag instant above-average acceleration at any speed. It was dangerously fun to do on the highway and I had to reduce my speed quite a few times. * Autopilot started to work at 41 miles. I laughed in glee and disbelief as it drove itself at 70 mph along curvy highways. * Regen is more aggressive that I imagined - like medium braking. I enjoyed it because it enabled one-pedal driving. * The sales rep told me that I have to schedule a follow-up appt to install the front plate later when I get it. My Tesla account now showed the ability to schedule my car and appointment times unfortunately overlap with work: M-F 8am-6pm. It s the price you pay for a Tesla I guess. * The interior had no flaws and I m really happy with how everything felt and functioned. * The car is an absolute dream to own and that giant screen is perfect for navigating. This car feels to other cars what the iPhone felt like to other phones when it first came out. They re going to be endangered species soon! * The sound is SO GOOD! It beats other “premium” sound packages by a lot. * I m shocked by the number of settings you can change. Steering to stiff? No problem- make it looser. Acceleration too much? No problem- make it “chill”. The car is awkwardly still in drive? No problem turn on “creep”. It s really cool how much leeway you have in customizing your car s performance with a few taps. Lastly here s a picture of my boyfriend and me seriously happy with this car: http: imgur.com 9YbAVmH | So after test driving the 3 for a couple days I have to agree that there is some kind of acceleration limiter at lower speeds (0-20). Gonna be interesting if they ever decide to uncork that. I d like to see if anyone has an actual detailed graph of how the car accelerates to see if it looks obviously handicapped perhaps compared to others or the physics of the car having max torque at 0. | 30 | 2 | 2,253 |
88ueud | 226 | Tesla Goes Bankrupt - Elon Musk https: twitter.com elonmusk status 980566101124722688?s=21 Tesla Goes Bankrupt Palo Alto California April 1 2018 -- Despite intense efforts to raise money including a last-ditch mass sale of Easter Eggs we are sad to report that Tesla has gone completely and totally bankrupt. So bankrupt you can t believe it. There are many chapters of bankruptcy and as critics so rightly pointed out Tesla has them *all* including Chapter 14 and a half (the worst one). Elon was found passed out against a Tesla Model 3 surrounded by Teslaquilla bottles the tracks of dried tears still visible on his cheeks. This is not a forward-looking statement because obviously what s the point? Happy New Month! https: i.imgur.com 6FDLevl.jpg | Algo bots are going to go berserk... | Scared the shit out of me | 103 | 4 | 2,254 |
88ueud | 226 | Tesla Goes Bankrupt - Elon Musk https: twitter.com elonmusk status 980566101124722688?s=21 Tesla Goes Bankrupt Palo Alto California April 1 2018 -- Despite intense efforts to raise money including a last-ditch mass sale of Easter Eggs we are sad to report that Tesla has gone completely and totally bankrupt. So bankrupt you can t believe it. There are many chapters of bankruptcy and as critics so rightly pointed out Tesla has them *all* including Chapter 14 and a half (the worst one). Elon was found passed out against a Tesla Model 3 surrounded by Teslaquilla bottles the tracks of dried tears still visible on his cheeks. This is not a forward-looking statement because obviously what s the point? Happy New Month! https: i.imgur.com 6FDLevl.jpg | Algo bots are going to go berserk... | rip | 103 | 5 | 2,255 |
88ueud | 226 | Tesla Goes Bankrupt - Elon Musk https: twitter.com elonmusk status 980566101124722688?s=21 Tesla Goes Bankrupt Palo Alto California April 1 2018 -- Despite intense efforts to raise money including a last-ditch mass sale of Easter Eggs we are sad to report that Tesla has gone completely and totally bankrupt. So bankrupt you can t believe it. There are many chapters of bankruptcy and as critics so rightly pointed out Tesla has them *all* including Chapter 14 and a half (the worst one). Elon was found passed out against a Tesla Model 3 surrounded by Teslaquilla bottles the tracks of dried tears still visible on his cheeks. This is not a forward-looking statement because obviously what s the point? Happy New Month! https: i.imgur.com 6FDLevl.jpg | The real Aprils fools joke will be all the shorts that are about to get run over next week. | Scared the shit out of me | 44 | 4 | 2,256 |
88xx0m | 235 | [Discussion] NTSB is working with Tesla on the Model X crash. NTSB also investigated a Jan 16 crash in which the exact same gore point barricade was struck by a Greyhound bus a crash so violent the bus upended. NTSB findings then may give clues. NTSB warned CalTrans and to this day no improvement in safety markings. Here was the news coverage of the eerily similar course of events and NTSB findings then. Really raises questions about CalTrans role on proactively improving the safety of that zone after past NTSB report. News Coverage: https: www.mercurynews.com 2017 03 28 san-jose-ntsb-blames-fatal-2016-greyhound-bus-crash-on-inadequate-road-markings NTSB Report Conclusion and Recommendations: https: www.scribd.com document 343415717 San-Jose-bus-crash | How many fucking times has this thing been hit? The attenuator was crushed when the bus hit it too. | It s unfortunate that these corner cases for autonomy seem to reveal themselves only after a death but maybe that s the ugly path to progress. | 82 | 13 | 2,257 |
88xx0m | 235 | [Discussion] NTSB is working with Tesla on the Model X crash. NTSB also investigated a Jan 16 crash in which the exact same gore point barricade was struck by a Greyhound bus a crash so violent the bus upended. NTSB findings then may give clues. NTSB warned CalTrans and to this day no improvement in safety markings. Here was the news coverage of the eerily similar course of events and NTSB findings then. Really raises questions about CalTrans role on proactively improving the safety of that zone after past NTSB report. News Coverage: https: www.mercurynews.com 2017 03 28 san-jose-ntsb-blames-fatal-2016-greyhound-bus-crash-on-inadequate-road-markings NTSB Report Conclusion and Recommendations: https: www.scribd.com document 343415717 San-Jose-bus-crash | How many fucking times has this thing been hit? The attenuator was crushed when the bus hit it too. | Thats interesting if it really is so dangerous even for drivers without autopilot.. | 82 | 50 | 2,258 |
88xx0m | 235 | [Discussion] NTSB is working with Tesla on the Model X crash. NTSB also investigated a Jan 16 crash in which the exact same gore point barricade was struck by a Greyhound bus a crash so violent the bus upended. NTSB findings then may give clues. NTSB warned CalTrans and to this day no improvement in safety markings. Here was the news coverage of the eerily similar course of events and NTSB findings then. Really raises questions about CalTrans role on proactively improving the safety of that zone after past NTSB report. News Coverage: https: www.mercurynews.com 2017 03 28 san-jose-ntsb-blames-fatal-2016-greyhound-bus-crash-on-inadequate-road-markings NTSB Report Conclusion and Recommendations: https: www.scribd.com document 343415717 San-Jose-bus-crash | The Greyhound crash did not occur at the exact same gore point barricade. It happened at a completely different 101 85 interchange that just happens to be almost identical to the one where the Tesla crash occurred. Highways 101 and 85 meet at multiple points. The Tesla crash occurred [here](https: www.google.com maps @37.4106233 -122.0750036 3a 75y 117.48h 90t data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNrCppnEbkIT7JYlxtujW1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) in Mountain View. The Greyhound crash appears to have occurred [here](https: www.google.com maps @37.2383082 -121.7625812 3a 75y 305.55h 84.55t data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s214S1pzH-TXrFJNF_q42YQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in South San Jose. That said the two interchanges are virtually identical and Caltrans s negligence was clearly a major factor in each crash (especially since they ignored the NTSB s recommendations after the Greyhound crash). | Aside from stripes wouldn t a simple life-saving modification be to slope the concrete divider up from the road surface instead of it presenting an abrupt 2-foot wall of death? The worst result in that case would be a stalled vehicle lodged on top of it with its drive wheels off the ground or a taller vehicle toppling over. | 32 | 2 | 2,259 |
890hhl | 101 | Tesla s Q1 2018 Supercharger expansion stats [Following up on my 2017 post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7nw7t6 heres_how_tesla_did_in_2017_on_their_commitment ) Here s what Tesla did in Q1 of 2018 on their Supercharger Expansion: * **956 New Stalls 8911 total** * **85 New Sites 1200 total** * ~~Fun fact: If all Superchargers stalls were running at their rated power at the same time it would be 1.1 TW. [This is equal to the USA s total generation capacity](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Electricity_sector_of_the_United_States). Thankfully less than half the SC s are in the USA so 9 000 rouge Tesla owners can t bring down the grid! (and most SC s can only do half their max rate if all stalls are active)~~ EDIT: I m an idiot and was off by 1 000 because I missed one step from KW to MW. Sorry! Breaking it down: * 461 New USA Stalls 4124 total * 35 New USA Sites 492 total * 79 new California stalls 760 total * 1 new California site 64 total * 173 New China Stalls 1042 total * 19 New China Sites 178 total * Only 16 of 1 200 sites are listed as 72kW max Observations: * The stall number is slightly low as Tesla doesn t report stall numbers on about 4% of locations. Tesla s main SC site says 9 184 stalls (3% error). This was true of the base end of 2017 numbers too so the differentials should be generally accurate. * This follows up a 2017 where they [had stated they would double the number of stalls from 5 400 to 10 800](https: www.tesla.com blog charging-our-priority) but ended well short of that goal. * They have been adding ~10.8 stalls a day. They will hit their 2017 goal of 10 800 stalls around mid-August 2018. * Q4 2017 growth was about ~14 stalls per day so they have slowed about 25%. However overall 2017 growth was ~9 stalls per day so they are a bit faster than that. * 783 sites are listed as coming in 2018 as of April 1. With 275 days remaining They need to build 2.8 sites a day. They have been building 0.95. So they need to exactly triple their build rate to hit their current goal. * I have no idea what is happening in California. They said they would *add* 1 000 stalls in California in 2017. They have only added about 250 in the last year and still only have 760 total. * Sites expected in 2019 or beyond has dropped from 85 to 57 in the last quarter. * Tesla is building 100 000 cars per year right now increasing the total number of Teslas by about 25% per year. However they are increasing SC stalls by about 40% per year. At the same time if they hit 2 500 Model 3 s a week they will be adding more cars than stalls. * If Tesla charges 12 cents per KWh more than the local rate and could get 10% utilization of SC s then the SC network would have a net revenue of about $115M per year or 1% of their current overall revenue. This is only $96K per SC location. However to get 10% utilization in terms of KWh you would need 30-50% physical utilization during the day since you can t actually charge at 120KWh for very long and middle of the night utilization is going to be near zero. | > Fun fact: If all Superchargers stalls were running at their rated power at the same time it would be 1.1 TW. This is equal to the USA s total generation capacity. This is very incorrect. You are off by multiple orders of magnitude. edit: US generation is around 1000 GW all superchargers worldwide (~10k stalls) operating together (120kW each) get you to roughly 1 GW. So about 0.1% of US generation capacity. | Now THAT s what I call a Supercharged Post! *I ll see myself out.* | 41 | 3 | 2,260 |
890hhl | 101 | Tesla s Q1 2018 Supercharger expansion stats [Following up on my 2017 post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7nw7t6 heres_how_tesla_did_in_2017_on_their_commitment ) Here s what Tesla did in Q1 of 2018 on their Supercharger Expansion: * **956 New Stalls 8911 total** * **85 New Sites 1200 total** * ~~Fun fact: If all Superchargers stalls were running at their rated power at the same time it would be 1.1 TW. [This is equal to the USA s total generation capacity](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Electricity_sector_of_the_United_States). Thankfully less than half the SC s are in the USA so 9 000 rouge Tesla owners can t bring down the grid! (and most SC s can only do half their max rate if all stalls are active)~~ EDIT: I m an idiot and was off by 1 000 because I missed one step from KW to MW. Sorry! Breaking it down: * 461 New USA Stalls 4124 total * 35 New USA Sites 492 total * 79 new California stalls 760 total * 1 new California site 64 total * 173 New China Stalls 1042 total * 19 New China Sites 178 total * Only 16 of 1 200 sites are listed as 72kW max Observations: * The stall number is slightly low as Tesla doesn t report stall numbers on about 4% of locations. Tesla s main SC site says 9 184 stalls (3% error). This was true of the base end of 2017 numbers too so the differentials should be generally accurate. * This follows up a 2017 where they [had stated they would double the number of stalls from 5 400 to 10 800](https: www.tesla.com blog charging-our-priority) but ended well short of that goal. * They have been adding ~10.8 stalls a day. They will hit their 2017 goal of 10 800 stalls around mid-August 2018. * Q4 2017 growth was about ~14 stalls per day so they have slowed about 25%. However overall 2017 growth was ~9 stalls per day so they are a bit faster than that. * 783 sites are listed as coming in 2018 as of April 1. With 275 days remaining They need to build 2.8 sites a day. They have been building 0.95. So they need to exactly triple their build rate to hit their current goal. * I have no idea what is happening in California. They said they would *add* 1 000 stalls in California in 2017. They have only added about 250 in the last year and still only have 760 total. * Sites expected in 2019 or beyond has dropped from 85 to 57 in the last quarter. * Tesla is building 100 000 cars per year right now increasing the total number of Teslas by about 25% per year. However they are increasing SC stalls by about 40% per year. At the same time if they hit 2 500 Model 3 s a week they will be adding more cars than stalls. * If Tesla charges 12 cents per KWh more than the local rate and could get 10% utilization of SC s then the SC network would have a net revenue of about $115M per year or 1% of their current overall revenue. This is only $96K per SC location. However to get 10% utilization in terms of KWh you would need 30-50% physical utilization during the day since you can t actually charge at 120KWh for very long and middle of the night utilization is going to be near zero. | > Fun fact: If all Superchargers stalls were running at their rated power at the same time it would be 1.1 TW. This is equal to the USA s total generation capacity. This is very incorrect. You are off by multiple orders of magnitude. edit: US generation is around 1000 GW all superchargers worldwide (~10k stalls) operating together (120kW each) get you to roughly 1 GW. So about 0.1% of US generation capacity. | One new site per day is really good news for Tesla owners even though Tesla s target are much more aggressive. **Speculation**: Tesla is not building new sites in California because they will introduce Supercharger v.2 capable of 450kW (-50 +100) later this year along with dual port cars and new battery configs. The tests will be limited to California till the end of year. | 41 | 4 | 2,261 |
890hhl | 101 | Tesla s Q1 2018 Supercharger expansion stats [Following up on my 2017 post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7nw7t6 heres_how_tesla_did_in_2017_on_their_commitment ) Here s what Tesla did in Q1 of 2018 on their Supercharger Expansion: * **956 New Stalls 8911 total** * **85 New Sites 1200 total** * ~~Fun fact: If all Superchargers stalls were running at their rated power at the same time it would be 1.1 TW. [This is equal to the USA s total generation capacity](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Electricity_sector_of_the_United_States). Thankfully less than half the SC s are in the USA so 9 000 rouge Tesla owners can t bring down the grid! (and most SC s can only do half their max rate if all stalls are active)~~ EDIT: I m an idiot and was off by 1 000 because I missed one step from KW to MW. Sorry! Breaking it down: * 461 New USA Stalls 4124 total * 35 New USA Sites 492 total * 79 new California stalls 760 total * 1 new California site 64 total * 173 New China Stalls 1042 total * 19 New China Sites 178 total * Only 16 of 1 200 sites are listed as 72kW max Observations: * The stall number is slightly low as Tesla doesn t report stall numbers on about 4% of locations. Tesla s main SC site says 9 184 stalls (3% error). This was true of the base end of 2017 numbers too so the differentials should be generally accurate. * This follows up a 2017 where they [had stated they would double the number of stalls from 5 400 to 10 800](https: www.tesla.com blog charging-our-priority) but ended well short of that goal. * They have been adding ~10.8 stalls a day. They will hit their 2017 goal of 10 800 stalls around mid-August 2018. * Q4 2017 growth was about ~14 stalls per day so they have slowed about 25%. However overall 2017 growth was ~9 stalls per day so they are a bit faster than that. * 783 sites are listed as coming in 2018 as of April 1. With 275 days remaining They need to build 2.8 sites a day. They have been building 0.95. So they need to exactly triple their build rate to hit their current goal. * I have no idea what is happening in California. They said they would *add* 1 000 stalls in California in 2017. They have only added about 250 in the last year and still only have 760 total. * Sites expected in 2019 or beyond has dropped from 85 to 57 in the last quarter. * Tesla is building 100 000 cars per year right now increasing the total number of Teslas by about 25% per year. However they are increasing SC stalls by about 40% per year. At the same time if they hit 2 500 Model 3 s a week they will be adding more cars than stalls. * If Tesla charges 12 cents per KWh more than the local rate and could get 10% utilization of SC s then the SC network would have a net revenue of about $115M per year or 1% of their current overall revenue. This is only $96K per SC location. However to get 10% utilization in terms of KWh you would need 30-50% physical utilization during the day since you can t actually charge at 120KWh for very long and middle of the night utilization is going to be near zero. | > Fun fact: If all Superchargers stalls were running at their rated power at the same time it would be 1.1 TW. This is equal to the USA s total generation capacity. This is very incorrect. You are off by multiple orders of magnitude. edit: US generation is around 1000 GW all superchargers worldwide (~10k stalls) operating together (120kW each) get you to roughly 1 GW. So about 0.1% of US generation capacity. | Great post. And for reference as of 31 March https: supercharge.info is reporting (worldwide): - 1210 stations open - 9314 stalls open | 41 | 6 | 2,262 |
89wg11 | 96 | So I got my Model 3 towed today within 2 weeks of owning it... Curious if anyone has had this issue? I went to my car today as normal to go to work and I got flashing error messages saying UNABLE TO DRIVE PULL OVER SAFELY... Rear Motor Disabled: Exiting and re-entering vehicle may restore operation... Car Needs Service Car May Not Restart . I ended up calling roadside assistance and they sent someone immediately to tow my vehicle. I tried leaving the vehicle and coming back 15 minutes later like support told me to with no luck so my car had to be put on a dolly and ride down 5 floors of misery to the bottom of my parking garage while impatient people tried to pass the tow truck and almost damage my vehicle > :( Anyways in the weirdest possible timing I had a service appointment already scheduled today at 1:30PM (to fix trunk lights in back not being plugged in properly charging port not properly closing phone charging dock acting weird) and by the time I got to the service center in the tow truck going at 20 miles per hour on surface streets I got there at exactly 1:30PM! After speaking to the friendly customer service they got the technician to explain that there might be an electrical issue but that it may take a few days to figure out. They had originally said it might be a software issue but quickly said it s probably electrical related. They also said they would be using this for their own research to improve any model 3 s that have this issue in the future. They gave me a Model S 85 as a loaner vehicle and let me use their supercharger to go on my way. I received a text a few hours later saying that they wanted to give me an update on the vehicle and that the technician is diagnosing the issue by working with the Engineers in Fremont... sounds serious. I ll keep you all updated and in the meantime I ll enjoy the sunroof on this Model S! TLDR So I got my Model 3 towed today within 2 weeks of owning it... Update (4 5): I just got an update from the service center saying the engineers are looking into the vehicle and cannot give it back to me unless they are 100% sure it won t happen again. They aren t telling me what exactly the issue is yet so I m a little suspicious... | Thats a blast form the past like a joke from the 90s: (https: www.snopes.com fact-check car-balk ) > For all of us who feel only the deepest love and affection for the way computers have enhanced our lives read on. At a recent computer expo (COMDEX) Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1 000 miles to the gallon. > In response to Bill s comments General Motors issued a press release stating: If GM had developed technology like Microsoft we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics: > 1. For no reason whatsoever your car would crash twice a day. > 2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road you would have to buy a new car. > 3. **Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull to the side of the road close all of the windows shut off the car restart it and reopen the windows before you could continue.** Strangly enough with regards to 2 NOT repainting the lines on the road tend to be a bigger issue ... | Welcome to the beta! | 57 | 2 | 2,263 |
89wg11 | 96 | So I got my Model 3 towed today within 2 weeks of owning it... Curious if anyone has had this issue? I went to my car today as normal to go to work and I got flashing error messages saying UNABLE TO DRIVE PULL OVER SAFELY... Rear Motor Disabled: Exiting and re-entering vehicle may restore operation... Car Needs Service Car May Not Restart . I ended up calling roadside assistance and they sent someone immediately to tow my vehicle. I tried leaving the vehicle and coming back 15 minutes later like support told me to with no luck so my car had to be put on a dolly and ride down 5 floors of misery to the bottom of my parking garage while impatient people tried to pass the tow truck and almost damage my vehicle > :( Anyways in the weirdest possible timing I had a service appointment already scheduled today at 1:30PM (to fix trunk lights in back not being plugged in properly charging port not properly closing phone charging dock acting weird) and by the time I got to the service center in the tow truck going at 20 miles per hour on surface streets I got there at exactly 1:30PM! After speaking to the friendly customer service they got the technician to explain that there might be an electrical issue but that it may take a few days to figure out. They had originally said it might be a software issue but quickly said it s probably electrical related. They also said they would be using this for their own research to improve any model 3 s that have this issue in the future. They gave me a Model S 85 as a loaner vehicle and let me use their supercharger to go on my way. I received a text a few hours later saying that they wanted to give me an update on the vehicle and that the technician is diagnosing the issue by working with the Engineers in Fremont... sounds serious. I ll keep you all updated and in the meantime I ll enjoy the sunroof on this Model S! TLDR So I got my Model 3 towed today within 2 weeks of owning it... Update (4 5): I just got an update from the service center saying the engineers are looking into the vehicle and cannot give it back to me unless they are 100% sure it won t happen again. They aren t telling me what exactly the issue is yet so I m a little suspicious... | Thats a blast form the past like a joke from the 90s: (https: www.snopes.com fact-check car-balk ) > For all of us who feel only the deepest love and affection for the way computers have enhanced our lives read on. At a recent computer expo (COMDEX) Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1 000 miles to the gallon. > In response to Bill s comments General Motors issued a press release stating: If GM had developed technology like Microsoft we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics: > 1. For no reason whatsoever your car would crash twice a day. > 2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road you would have to buy a new car. > 3. **Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull to the side of the road close all of the windows shut off the car restart it and reopen the windows before you could continue.** Strangly enough with regards to 2 NOT repainting the lines on the road tend to be a bigger issue ... | Welcome to tesla ownership! Luckily I ve only had 1 issue with my model s but required several service center visits before they fixed it. The model 3 is a whole other can of worms though. Good luck. | 57 | 2 | 2,264 |
89wg11 | 96 | So I got my Model 3 towed today within 2 weeks of owning it... Curious if anyone has had this issue? I went to my car today as normal to go to work and I got flashing error messages saying UNABLE TO DRIVE PULL OVER SAFELY... Rear Motor Disabled: Exiting and re-entering vehicle may restore operation... Car Needs Service Car May Not Restart . I ended up calling roadside assistance and they sent someone immediately to tow my vehicle. I tried leaving the vehicle and coming back 15 minutes later like support told me to with no luck so my car had to be put on a dolly and ride down 5 floors of misery to the bottom of my parking garage while impatient people tried to pass the tow truck and almost damage my vehicle > :( Anyways in the weirdest possible timing I had a service appointment already scheduled today at 1:30PM (to fix trunk lights in back not being plugged in properly charging port not properly closing phone charging dock acting weird) and by the time I got to the service center in the tow truck going at 20 miles per hour on surface streets I got there at exactly 1:30PM! After speaking to the friendly customer service they got the technician to explain that there might be an electrical issue but that it may take a few days to figure out. They had originally said it might be a software issue but quickly said it s probably electrical related. They also said they would be using this for their own research to improve any model 3 s that have this issue in the future. They gave me a Model S 85 as a loaner vehicle and let me use their supercharger to go on my way. I received a text a few hours later saying that they wanted to give me an update on the vehicle and that the technician is diagnosing the issue by working with the Engineers in Fremont... sounds serious. I ll keep you all updated and in the meantime I ll enjoy the sunroof on this Model S! TLDR So I got my Model 3 towed today within 2 weeks of owning it... Update (4 5): I just got an update from the service center saying the engineers are looking into the vehicle and cannot give it back to me unless they are 100% sure it won t happen again. They aren t telling me what exactly the issue is yet so I m a little suspicious... | Thats a blast form the past like a joke from the 90s: (https: www.snopes.com fact-check car-balk ) > For all of us who feel only the deepest love and affection for the way computers have enhanced our lives read on. At a recent computer expo (COMDEX) Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1 000 miles to the gallon. > In response to Bill s comments General Motors issued a press release stating: If GM had developed technology like Microsoft we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics: > 1. For no reason whatsoever your car would crash twice a day. > 2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road you would have to buy a new car. > 3. **Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull to the side of the road close all of the windows shut off the car restart it and reopen the windows before you could continue.** Strangly enough with regards to 2 NOT repainting the lines on the road tend to be a bigger issue ... | I m sorry to hear it! I hope you enjoy the Model S in the meantime... | 57 | 4 | 2,265 |
8a3pxl | 45 | [Meta] We re looking to revamp user flair and we re looking for your input. For the last year we ve made a bunch of changes. Ultimately we re just trying to make this place better. Currently we have a small selection of flair (and it s limited) but we re looking to make it better. Keeping Reddit s upcoming redesign in mind we still want to allow people to have fun with it. You may have noticed user flair really hasn t changed in a few years and that s because of it s tight integration with CSS and the way it appears I had to learn the depths of CSS and be cautious of how things tied to it are implemented. Over time as we ve made adjustments to the sub [Part 1](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 74nswk growth_of_rteslamotors ) and [Part 2](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7m9zc2 growth_of_rteslamotors_part_deux ) (which are always pinned to the top of my profile btw) we ask the community what they d like to see. Uniformly themed fun expressive and tied to your personality is what we re aiming for. The things I can come up with off the bat (as far as what we re looking for) are things like: Owner Multiple Tesla Owner Optimistic Pessimistic Devils Advocate Super Fan! I live in Elon Standard Time Investor Long Investor Short (maybe) I crave OTA updates!... etc you get the picture. Really trying to make this something that you can change if you wish based on how you re feeling. Obviously if it s something you d like to change often too you can. Looking at what we have now we ll likely still do custom flair because we want people to have a choice but it ll have to work with what we re doing now vs. what we re going towards. Luckily we have you whom we listen to. So on-forth what say you. ! Give us your best ! | Please add “Future Owner” to the list Also “Previous Owner” and “Ex Fan” | I d take one of them investor long flairs if you got em. | 31 | 5 | 2,266 |
8a8hgt | 101 | Gas stations installs From a family that runs multiple gas stations and in Alabama Alabama doesn t have many super chargers most I know of is 3 near me in a 50 mile radius. If I was to get a super charger installed at our gas stations how much would that cost as of now a new gas pump cost any where from 15-25 thousand and I want to install at least one super charger in my stations in the next five year because my state doesn t really have many Tesla s I ve seen maybe 3 this year. I wouldn t rush into a install but am still interested in installing to keep up with the industry and I may end up buying myself a model S in the near future | Superchargers cost something like 100k or more so i don t think it s in your budget. If you have the space and you have the facilities (to serve some food beverages entertainment) you should check the workplace chargers which Tesla provides for free: https: www.tesla.com charging-partners#apply If they don t accept your application you could buy a couple of chargers yourself for $500 each: https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-s_x_3-wall-connector.html These chargers can only be used by Teslas so if you want to target other EVs you should look into other chargers. | Good for you on being proactive. Unfortunately Tesla doesn t allow store owners to charge for supercharger access (as fast as I know). So unless you plan on having a conveinence store attached it will probably end up costing you money on the long run. The crappier charger from Chademo does though and it s also open to other EVs. I d go that route of I was you. Since M3 owners need to pay they might even charge there | 149 | 19 | 2,267 |
8abqvm | 232 | Can configure with bad news. Wife called me said she flipped our camry(only car). On my way to the hospital check to see our status can configure. Don t know if this is the universe giving us a chance or saying eff you... Edit 1: She s in a lot of pain. Told her about the Tesla so brought a smile. She said she 360 three times and car ended like this: https: imgur.com gallery sfeKb Edit 2: She was discharged last night. Today feels very sore but moving ok. Thanks guys and gals we are going to configure I ll post again when we get the car! Again thanks! | Hold on going out to flip my car to see if that works! | I would say at this point let s worry about your wife. She just had a pretty horrifying time. | 183 | 96 | 2,268 |
8abqvm | 232 | Can configure with bad news. Wife called me said she flipped our camry(only car). On my way to the hospital check to see our status can configure. Don t know if this is the universe giving us a chance or saying eff you... Edit 1: She s in a lot of pain. Told her about the Tesla so brought a smile. She said she 360 three times and car ended like this: https: imgur.com gallery sfeKb Edit 2: She was discharged last night. Today feels very sore but moving ok. Thanks guys and gals we are going to configure I ll post again when we get the car! Again thanks! | At least I know she s talking normally but with some pain... | Oh man hope everything is alright. That s really scary. | 55 | 11 | 2,269 |
8ae0ml | 567 | TCI transport orders 50 semis. Show them some love. I m in no way affiliated. https: www.instagram.com p BhPRFqlAVYi | TCI must stand for: Tuck in your shirt. Chest out. Inhale. | huh no rear fairings. i wonder when that was removed? | 76 | 4 | 2,270 |
8ae0ml | 567 | TCI transport orders 50 semis. Show them some love. I m in no way affiliated. https: www.instagram.com p BhPRFqlAVYi | This is only the beginning. These trucks are going to take over the industry. Just watch. | huh no rear fairings. i wonder when that was removed? | 56 | 4 | 2,271 |
8ae0ml | 567 | TCI transport orders 50 semis. Show them some love. I m in no way affiliated. https: www.instagram.com p BhPRFqlAVYi | TCI must stand for: Tuck in your shirt. Chest out. Inhale. | I can t believe how stupid all these large trucking companies are. Don t they realise Tesla is going to go broke and take all their deposits s | 76 | 43 | 2,272 |
8aq8bs | 1,160 | TIL: Despite being 1 000 lbs (454 kg) heavier the Model 3 LR can travel 80 miles (129 km) farther than the original Roadster. Thats awesome progress over the last decade! Makes me excited to see what the battery progress will be like over the next decade! I used the wikipedia pages for the roadster and model 3 pages as sources. Model 3: https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Tesla_Model_3 Roadster: https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Tesla_Roadster_(2008) | That s probably true but I think that there is much more to this than two variables. | Dilly dilly! | 174 | 6 | 2,273 |
8aq8bs | 1,160 | TIL: Despite being 1 000 lbs (454 kg) heavier the Model 3 LR can travel 80 miles (129 km) farther than the original Roadster. Thats awesome progress over the last decade! Makes me excited to see what the battery progress will be like over the next decade! I used the wikipedia pages for the roadster and model 3 pages as sources. Model 3: https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Tesla_Model_3 Roadster: https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Tesla_Roadster_(2008) | That s because the Model 3 has a larger battery. Battery size trumps weight for most electric vehicles. If the Model 3 LR had a battery pack the size of the Roadster it would get 219 miles of range to the Roadster s 245 | Dilly dilly! | 137 | 6 | 2,274 |
8aq8bs | 1,160 | TIL: Despite being 1 000 lbs (454 kg) heavier the Model 3 LR can travel 80 miles (129 km) farther than the original Roadster. Thats awesome progress over the last decade! Makes me excited to see what the battery progress will be like over the next decade! I used the wikipedia pages for the roadster and model 3 pages as sources. Model 3: https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Tesla_Model_3 Roadster: https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Tesla_Roadster_(2008) | Also a 787-9 Dreamliner can travel 13 600 km farther than a Model 3 despite being 252 300 kg heavier. Amazing! | The model 3 also has a trunk I don t even think the roadster 2.0 or the truck has a frunk. Has progress stalled??? | 114 | 2 | 2,275 |
8atolp | 1,935 | Tomorrow I ll be configuring my Model 3 and paying for all upgrades exclusively using profits from a $35k investment in $TSLA on reservation day. I was psyched on Friday to get a configuration email for my Model 3. But now I m even more pumped and wanted to share why. When I placed my reservation on 3 31 I took 35k in cash and put it in $TSLA buying 150 shares at $233 each. I decided that I d use any profits to determine what upgrades I d get and if the investment ultimately lost money then I wouldn t get a Model 3. I ve jumped in and out of the position numerous times over the last 2 years. But this past Friday after market close I received a configuration invite so I decided it was time to see how well the position has performed. I added up my total earnings on that initial 35k investment and it comes out to just over $23 000 exactly enough to get the fully loaded LR and take care of all taxes! I just wanted to share because in my eyes I m basically scoring a fully loaded model 3 for the base price. Thanks Tesla can t wait to get behind the wheel! edit: [proof](https: i.imgur.com PiEfFa9.jpg) | Congrats man. I did this too. Hadn t bought any stocks myself before three weeks prior to placing my Model 3 reservation. Bought in around where you did. Started with around $35k. Added more as time went. Made more than enough to cover the cost of the base model over again. Picked up my Model 3 paid in full last Friday. Thanks $TSLA and thanks Elon. Enjoy yours! You won t regret it. | Well done. Congrats! | 411 | 5 | 2,276 |
8atolp | 1,935 | Tomorrow I ll be configuring my Model 3 and paying for all upgrades exclusively using profits from a $35k investment in $TSLA on reservation day. I was psyched on Friday to get a configuration email for my Model 3. But now I m even more pumped and wanted to share why. When I placed my reservation on 3 31 I took 35k in cash and put it in $TSLA buying 150 shares at $233 each. I decided that I d use any profits to determine what upgrades I d get and if the investment ultimately lost money then I wouldn t get a Model 3. I ve jumped in and out of the position numerous times over the last 2 years. But this past Friday after market close I received a configuration invite so I decided it was time to see how well the position has performed. I added up my total earnings on that initial 35k investment and it comes out to just over $23 000 exactly enough to get the fully loaded LR and take care of all taxes! I just wanted to share because in my eyes I m basically scoring a fully loaded model 3 for the base price. Thanks Tesla can t wait to get behind the wheel! edit: [proof](https: i.imgur.com PiEfFa9.jpg) | Congrats man. I did this too. Hadn t bought any stocks myself before three weeks prior to placing my Model 3 reservation. Bought in around where you did. Started with around $35k. Added more as time went. Made more than enough to cover the cost of the base model over again. Picked up my Model 3 paid in full last Friday. Thanks $TSLA and thanks Elon. Enjoy yours! You won t regret it. | Congratulations! | 411 | 17 | 2,277 |
8atolp | 1,935 | Tomorrow I ll be configuring my Model 3 and paying for all upgrades exclusively using profits from a $35k investment in $TSLA on reservation day. I was psyched on Friday to get a configuration email for my Model 3. But now I m even more pumped and wanted to share why. When I placed my reservation on 3 31 I took 35k in cash and put it in $TSLA buying 150 shares at $233 each. I decided that I d use any profits to determine what upgrades I d get and if the investment ultimately lost money then I wouldn t get a Model 3. I ve jumped in and out of the position numerous times over the last 2 years. But this past Friday after market close I received a configuration invite so I decided it was time to see how well the position has performed. I added up my total earnings on that initial 35k investment and it comes out to just over $23 000 exactly enough to get the fully loaded LR and take care of all taxes! I just wanted to share because in my eyes I m basically scoring a fully loaded model 3 for the base price. Thanks Tesla can t wait to get behind the wheel! edit: [proof](https: i.imgur.com PiEfFa9.jpg) | Congrats man. I did this too. Hadn t bought any stocks myself before three weeks prior to placing my Model 3 reservation. Bought in around where you did. Started with around $35k. Added more as time went. Made more than enough to cover the cost of the base model over again. Picked up my Model 3 paid in full last Friday. Thanks $TSLA and thanks Elon. Enjoy yours! You won t regret it. | Smart move! (in retrospect) | 411 | 31 | 2,278 |
8b236u | 301 | 3 Weeks of Model 3: A Review Warning: massive wall of text incoming. TL DR - This car is an absolute joy to own and has exceeded my expectations on almost every level. Tesla will enjoy success over the next several years to the extent that they can crank these out in high volume with consistent quality and reliability. Overall score: 8.5 10 I ve been a massive Tesla enthusiast since 2012 when I began seeing Model S on the road and became curious about this strange Silicon Valley company that wanted to electrify the global auto industry. I was among the first in line to reserve a Model 3 at the Santa Monica showroom on 3 31 2016. Nearly two agonizingly long years later my Model 3 was ready to configure on 2 22 2018. On 3 22 2018 I took delivery of a beautiful Pearl White Tesla Model 3 long range with premium upgrades 19 sport wheels and enhanced autopilot features VIN 100XX. Here s my review. **Delivery Experience: 9 10** I arrived at the Marina Del Rey delivery center a few minutes early for my appointment and was greeted warmly by the two gentlemen at the front desk. I made my way into the swanky lounge where there were a few other families waiting for their cars and where a barista was preparing free beverages at the coffee bar. After a few minutes my delivery specialist took me to my car went over all the main features and had me set up my driver profile and app. She then drove the car around to the front of the facility while I went back into the lounge to review and sign some paperwork with a different specialist. I have to dock one point here as there was a minor hiccup regarding payment. I had paid the entire outstanding balance for the car online several days before delivery but my specialist seemed to think I still owed some money. She had to go back to her office for a few minutes and review some things while I waited to confirm that I did not owe any balance on the car. **Fit and Finish: 10 10** I guess I m one of the lucky ones but I have not noticed any issues here. Panel alignment is perfect interior is solid with zero noises or rattles paint is smooth. **Reliability and Service: 5 10** This is where things get ugly for a bit. As an apartment dweller without home charging access I m relying on ChargePoint stations at my office building and my gym for day-to-day charging. On my third day of ownership my second attempt to charge at work failed. I plugged in the adaptor and ChargePoint cable and the car did not begin charging. The charge light did not change in color and the charge port door began closing on the cable. I shrugged off the issue until later in the morning when I encountered the same behavior at my gym s charging station. I called Tesla roadside assistance and described the issue. They had me go through some rigmarole--rebooting the car trying to plug in the adaptor first and then the cable. Still nothing. The roadside assistance rep suggested I contact ChargePoint to troubleshoot the issue or download the PlugShare app to find other public charging options. I became frustrated as I was fairly confident there was an issue with the car and not with these charging stations or any user error on my part. The rep finally suggested I contact the West L.A. service center. I called West L.A. service and explained the issue. The woman on the phone was extremely dismissive said they would not be able to see me because they were totally slammed and would not have any loaners to give me. At this point I was starting to get pissed. The car was three days old with less than 100 miles and all I got was sorry can t help you. I then called the Centinela service center which is way further and less convenient for me. The woman who answered said I could go straight there and that the techs would be available to help me. Everyone at Centinela service was friendly and helpful. I waited there while the techs confirmed that my charge port was indeed defective. There were some loose connections inside that they had to re-attach and re-secure. After an hour or so I was back on the road in a fully-functioning Model 3. Massive props to Centinela service for being awesome but I shouldn t have had to waste a day of my life resolving this issue in the first place. Hopefully this will be the only major issue for a while and this score can improve over time. **Ride and Handling: 9 10** Enough has been written about this so I won t re-hash too much. This car is simply a blast to drive and I look forward to getting behind the wheel every single time. I m coming from an ND Miata which is an incredibly fun car to drive but in totally different ways. I have heard several people compare the 3 s handling to the Miata but I can t say I agree. I find that the Model 3 corners as confidently but it s about 65% heavier and I can certainly tell. It feels firmly planted to the road--more so than any car I ve ever owned--and there is zero body roll even on aggressive turns. I find the suspension well-tuned and I m getting just enough feedback from the road although this is subjective. Acceleration never gets old. I m still getting used to one-pedal driving but I d love for regenerative braking to be a bit more linear. Braking is very aggressive at first when you take your foot off the accelerator but the car crawls too much during the last 8-10 mph which means you have to start slowing down unreasonably soon when approaching a red light or stop sign. Braking should be slightly more aggressive during those last few yards IMHO. **Autopilot: 8 10** TACC and Autosteer are total game changers. I ve had zero issues so far on L.A. freeways. Even though I remain alert while autopilot is engaged I find it incredible how much stress and anxiety the feature reduces. I no longer care about how fast I m going or what lane I m in. It makes long drives relaxing and enjoyable and it makes stop-and-go situations infinitely more bearable. I do think TACC could be refined a bit as braking and acceleration are still somewhat jerky in total stop-and-go situations. Auto lane change is great when traffic is flowing well but doesn t work when things are a bit more dense which is when it would be the most useful. Autopark is totally useless and I m kinda surprised Tesla has shipped it in its current state. The appearance of a blue P icon is unpredictable inconsistent and sometimes hilariously wrong. It sometimes indicates a parking space in an *inner lane of moving traffic*. It usually fails to show up when I m driving slowly along the curb ready to park. **Hardware Quibbles** * The push-button mechanism to open doors from the inside is bad design based on how consistently my passengers have had trouble figuring it out. If people of all ages are taking the better part of a minute to figure out how to exit a car accidentally moving windows up and down in the process then it s time to go back to the drawing board. It s especially bad in the front passenger seat where more often than not my passenger uses the emergency escape latch instead of the push-button. I wouldn t care if it weren t for the anxiety-inducing message that pops up on the center screen when they do this. I shouldn t have to tell every new passenger don t use this latch to open the door--Tesla says it might damage my window trim. I wish they d somehow managed to combine both mechanisms into one latch with the mechanical fallback in case of power failure * The action on the signal wiper stalk sucks. It s way too sensitive and I often accidentally flash my high beams when signaling or start signaling the opposite way trying to cancel an active signal **Software Quibbles** * The white for daytime black for nighttime background on the center screen is a really nice touch. But when I m driving at dusk the sudden switch to black is pretty jarring and distracting especially when it takes a moment for me to realize what happened and that nothing is wrong. They should add a smoother transition here or maybe not change the background at all during an active drive. * Voice command feature doesn t work at all during no poor connectivity and it took me way too long to figure that out. Please make basic commands work when there is no data available or please give a sorry voice command not currently available message when there s no data connection so I don t have to give the same command over and over like an idiot and wonder why the car won t respond. | I appreciate the wall of text vs. the 10 minutes of a poorly produced youtube video. I d upvote more if I could. | I m still getting used to one-pedal driving but I d love for regenerative braking to be a bit more linear. Braking is very aggressive at first... IMHO. I couldn t agree with you more. Drove a Model S for the first time the other day and loved this but thought it needed to be more linear. It s a small gripe though. Thanks for sharing your feedback. All your suggestions sounded great to me. | 171 | 3 | 2,279 |
8b236u | 301 | 3 Weeks of Model 3: A Review Warning: massive wall of text incoming. TL DR - This car is an absolute joy to own and has exceeded my expectations on almost every level. Tesla will enjoy success over the next several years to the extent that they can crank these out in high volume with consistent quality and reliability. Overall score: 8.5 10 I ve been a massive Tesla enthusiast since 2012 when I began seeing Model S on the road and became curious about this strange Silicon Valley company that wanted to electrify the global auto industry. I was among the first in line to reserve a Model 3 at the Santa Monica showroom on 3 31 2016. Nearly two agonizingly long years later my Model 3 was ready to configure on 2 22 2018. On 3 22 2018 I took delivery of a beautiful Pearl White Tesla Model 3 long range with premium upgrades 19 sport wheels and enhanced autopilot features VIN 100XX. Here s my review. **Delivery Experience: 9 10** I arrived at the Marina Del Rey delivery center a few minutes early for my appointment and was greeted warmly by the two gentlemen at the front desk. I made my way into the swanky lounge where there were a few other families waiting for their cars and where a barista was preparing free beverages at the coffee bar. After a few minutes my delivery specialist took me to my car went over all the main features and had me set up my driver profile and app. She then drove the car around to the front of the facility while I went back into the lounge to review and sign some paperwork with a different specialist. I have to dock one point here as there was a minor hiccup regarding payment. I had paid the entire outstanding balance for the car online several days before delivery but my specialist seemed to think I still owed some money. She had to go back to her office for a few minutes and review some things while I waited to confirm that I did not owe any balance on the car. **Fit and Finish: 10 10** I guess I m one of the lucky ones but I have not noticed any issues here. Panel alignment is perfect interior is solid with zero noises or rattles paint is smooth. **Reliability and Service: 5 10** This is where things get ugly for a bit. As an apartment dweller without home charging access I m relying on ChargePoint stations at my office building and my gym for day-to-day charging. On my third day of ownership my second attempt to charge at work failed. I plugged in the adaptor and ChargePoint cable and the car did not begin charging. The charge light did not change in color and the charge port door began closing on the cable. I shrugged off the issue until later in the morning when I encountered the same behavior at my gym s charging station. I called Tesla roadside assistance and described the issue. They had me go through some rigmarole--rebooting the car trying to plug in the adaptor first and then the cable. Still nothing. The roadside assistance rep suggested I contact ChargePoint to troubleshoot the issue or download the PlugShare app to find other public charging options. I became frustrated as I was fairly confident there was an issue with the car and not with these charging stations or any user error on my part. The rep finally suggested I contact the West L.A. service center. I called West L.A. service and explained the issue. The woman on the phone was extremely dismissive said they would not be able to see me because they were totally slammed and would not have any loaners to give me. At this point I was starting to get pissed. The car was three days old with less than 100 miles and all I got was sorry can t help you. I then called the Centinela service center which is way further and less convenient for me. The woman who answered said I could go straight there and that the techs would be available to help me. Everyone at Centinela service was friendly and helpful. I waited there while the techs confirmed that my charge port was indeed defective. There were some loose connections inside that they had to re-attach and re-secure. After an hour or so I was back on the road in a fully-functioning Model 3. Massive props to Centinela service for being awesome but I shouldn t have had to waste a day of my life resolving this issue in the first place. Hopefully this will be the only major issue for a while and this score can improve over time. **Ride and Handling: 9 10** Enough has been written about this so I won t re-hash too much. This car is simply a blast to drive and I look forward to getting behind the wheel every single time. I m coming from an ND Miata which is an incredibly fun car to drive but in totally different ways. I have heard several people compare the 3 s handling to the Miata but I can t say I agree. I find that the Model 3 corners as confidently but it s about 65% heavier and I can certainly tell. It feels firmly planted to the road--more so than any car I ve ever owned--and there is zero body roll even on aggressive turns. I find the suspension well-tuned and I m getting just enough feedback from the road although this is subjective. Acceleration never gets old. I m still getting used to one-pedal driving but I d love for regenerative braking to be a bit more linear. Braking is very aggressive at first when you take your foot off the accelerator but the car crawls too much during the last 8-10 mph which means you have to start slowing down unreasonably soon when approaching a red light or stop sign. Braking should be slightly more aggressive during those last few yards IMHO. **Autopilot: 8 10** TACC and Autosteer are total game changers. I ve had zero issues so far on L.A. freeways. Even though I remain alert while autopilot is engaged I find it incredible how much stress and anxiety the feature reduces. I no longer care about how fast I m going or what lane I m in. It makes long drives relaxing and enjoyable and it makes stop-and-go situations infinitely more bearable. I do think TACC could be refined a bit as braking and acceleration are still somewhat jerky in total stop-and-go situations. Auto lane change is great when traffic is flowing well but doesn t work when things are a bit more dense which is when it would be the most useful. Autopark is totally useless and I m kinda surprised Tesla has shipped it in its current state. The appearance of a blue P icon is unpredictable inconsistent and sometimes hilariously wrong. It sometimes indicates a parking space in an *inner lane of moving traffic*. It usually fails to show up when I m driving slowly along the curb ready to park. **Hardware Quibbles** * The push-button mechanism to open doors from the inside is bad design based on how consistently my passengers have had trouble figuring it out. If people of all ages are taking the better part of a minute to figure out how to exit a car accidentally moving windows up and down in the process then it s time to go back to the drawing board. It s especially bad in the front passenger seat where more often than not my passenger uses the emergency escape latch instead of the push-button. I wouldn t care if it weren t for the anxiety-inducing message that pops up on the center screen when they do this. I shouldn t have to tell every new passenger don t use this latch to open the door--Tesla says it might damage my window trim. I wish they d somehow managed to combine both mechanisms into one latch with the mechanical fallback in case of power failure * The action on the signal wiper stalk sucks. It s way too sensitive and I often accidentally flash my high beams when signaling or start signaling the opposite way trying to cancel an active signal **Software Quibbles** * The white for daytime black for nighttime background on the center screen is a really nice touch. But when I m driving at dusk the sudden switch to black is pretty jarring and distracting especially when it takes a moment for me to realize what happened and that nothing is wrong. They should add a smoother transition here or maybe not change the background at all during an active drive. * Voice command feature doesn t work at all during no poor connectivity and it took me way too long to figure that out. Please make basic commands work when there is no data available or please give a sorry voice command not currently available message when there s no data connection so I don t have to give the same command over and over like an idiot and wonder why the car won t respond. | I appreciate the wall of text vs. the 10 minutes of a poorly produced youtube video. I d upvote more if I could. | Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Makes me even more excited for delivery... | 171 | 5 | 2,280 |
8b236u | 301 | 3 Weeks of Model 3: A Review Warning: massive wall of text incoming. TL DR - This car is an absolute joy to own and has exceeded my expectations on almost every level. Tesla will enjoy success over the next several years to the extent that they can crank these out in high volume with consistent quality and reliability. Overall score: 8.5 10 I ve been a massive Tesla enthusiast since 2012 when I began seeing Model S on the road and became curious about this strange Silicon Valley company that wanted to electrify the global auto industry. I was among the first in line to reserve a Model 3 at the Santa Monica showroom on 3 31 2016. Nearly two agonizingly long years later my Model 3 was ready to configure on 2 22 2018. On 3 22 2018 I took delivery of a beautiful Pearl White Tesla Model 3 long range with premium upgrades 19 sport wheels and enhanced autopilot features VIN 100XX. Here s my review. **Delivery Experience: 9 10** I arrived at the Marina Del Rey delivery center a few minutes early for my appointment and was greeted warmly by the two gentlemen at the front desk. I made my way into the swanky lounge where there were a few other families waiting for their cars and where a barista was preparing free beverages at the coffee bar. After a few minutes my delivery specialist took me to my car went over all the main features and had me set up my driver profile and app. She then drove the car around to the front of the facility while I went back into the lounge to review and sign some paperwork with a different specialist. I have to dock one point here as there was a minor hiccup regarding payment. I had paid the entire outstanding balance for the car online several days before delivery but my specialist seemed to think I still owed some money. She had to go back to her office for a few minutes and review some things while I waited to confirm that I did not owe any balance on the car. **Fit and Finish: 10 10** I guess I m one of the lucky ones but I have not noticed any issues here. Panel alignment is perfect interior is solid with zero noises or rattles paint is smooth. **Reliability and Service: 5 10** This is where things get ugly for a bit. As an apartment dweller without home charging access I m relying on ChargePoint stations at my office building and my gym for day-to-day charging. On my third day of ownership my second attempt to charge at work failed. I plugged in the adaptor and ChargePoint cable and the car did not begin charging. The charge light did not change in color and the charge port door began closing on the cable. I shrugged off the issue until later in the morning when I encountered the same behavior at my gym s charging station. I called Tesla roadside assistance and described the issue. They had me go through some rigmarole--rebooting the car trying to plug in the adaptor first and then the cable. Still nothing. The roadside assistance rep suggested I contact ChargePoint to troubleshoot the issue or download the PlugShare app to find other public charging options. I became frustrated as I was fairly confident there was an issue with the car and not with these charging stations or any user error on my part. The rep finally suggested I contact the West L.A. service center. I called West L.A. service and explained the issue. The woman on the phone was extremely dismissive said they would not be able to see me because they were totally slammed and would not have any loaners to give me. At this point I was starting to get pissed. The car was three days old with less than 100 miles and all I got was sorry can t help you. I then called the Centinela service center which is way further and less convenient for me. The woman who answered said I could go straight there and that the techs would be available to help me. Everyone at Centinela service was friendly and helpful. I waited there while the techs confirmed that my charge port was indeed defective. There were some loose connections inside that they had to re-attach and re-secure. After an hour or so I was back on the road in a fully-functioning Model 3. Massive props to Centinela service for being awesome but I shouldn t have had to waste a day of my life resolving this issue in the first place. Hopefully this will be the only major issue for a while and this score can improve over time. **Ride and Handling: 9 10** Enough has been written about this so I won t re-hash too much. This car is simply a blast to drive and I look forward to getting behind the wheel every single time. I m coming from an ND Miata which is an incredibly fun car to drive but in totally different ways. I have heard several people compare the 3 s handling to the Miata but I can t say I agree. I find that the Model 3 corners as confidently but it s about 65% heavier and I can certainly tell. It feels firmly planted to the road--more so than any car I ve ever owned--and there is zero body roll even on aggressive turns. I find the suspension well-tuned and I m getting just enough feedback from the road although this is subjective. Acceleration never gets old. I m still getting used to one-pedal driving but I d love for regenerative braking to be a bit more linear. Braking is very aggressive at first when you take your foot off the accelerator but the car crawls too much during the last 8-10 mph which means you have to start slowing down unreasonably soon when approaching a red light or stop sign. Braking should be slightly more aggressive during those last few yards IMHO. **Autopilot: 8 10** TACC and Autosteer are total game changers. I ve had zero issues so far on L.A. freeways. Even though I remain alert while autopilot is engaged I find it incredible how much stress and anxiety the feature reduces. I no longer care about how fast I m going or what lane I m in. It makes long drives relaxing and enjoyable and it makes stop-and-go situations infinitely more bearable. I do think TACC could be refined a bit as braking and acceleration are still somewhat jerky in total stop-and-go situations. Auto lane change is great when traffic is flowing well but doesn t work when things are a bit more dense which is when it would be the most useful. Autopark is totally useless and I m kinda surprised Tesla has shipped it in its current state. The appearance of a blue P icon is unpredictable inconsistent and sometimes hilariously wrong. It sometimes indicates a parking space in an *inner lane of moving traffic*. It usually fails to show up when I m driving slowly along the curb ready to park. **Hardware Quibbles** * The push-button mechanism to open doors from the inside is bad design based on how consistently my passengers have had trouble figuring it out. If people of all ages are taking the better part of a minute to figure out how to exit a car accidentally moving windows up and down in the process then it s time to go back to the drawing board. It s especially bad in the front passenger seat where more often than not my passenger uses the emergency escape latch instead of the push-button. I wouldn t care if it weren t for the anxiety-inducing message that pops up on the center screen when they do this. I shouldn t have to tell every new passenger don t use this latch to open the door--Tesla says it might damage my window trim. I wish they d somehow managed to combine both mechanisms into one latch with the mechanical fallback in case of power failure * The action on the signal wiper stalk sucks. It s way too sensitive and I often accidentally flash my high beams when signaling or start signaling the opposite way trying to cancel an active signal **Software Quibbles** * The white for daytime black for nighttime background on the center screen is a really nice touch. But when I m driving at dusk the sudden switch to black is pretty jarring and distracting especially when it takes a moment for me to realize what happened and that nothing is wrong. They should add a smoother transition here or maybe not change the background at all during an active drive. * Voice command feature doesn t work at all during no poor connectivity and it took me way too long to figure that out. Please make basic commands work when there is no data available or please give a sorry voice command not currently available message when there s no data connection so I don t have to give the same command over and over like an idiot and wonder why the car won t respond. | I appreciate the wall of text vs. the 10 minutes of a poorly produced youtube video. I d upvote more if I could. | Thanks for the writeup. Not sure if it is applicable to the model 3 but in the S i just set the night time color scheme to be on all the time looks much better to me that way. Might try that to see if you like it. | 171 | 5 | 2,281 |
8b9zui | 166 | New Round of Model 3 Invites just logged in. ready to configure. seattle day 1. non-owner. 11:30amish. looks like elon was true to his word. | Seattle is on Amish time? | Congratulations! Now you get to wait more :) | 162 | 4 | 2,282 |
8b9zui | 166 | New Round of Model 3 Invites just logged in. ready to configure. seattle day 1. non-owner. 11:30amish. looks like elon was true to his word. | Seattle is on Amish time? | What did your First Production estimate say prior to this? | 162 | 18 | 2,283 |
8b9zui | 166 | New Round of Model 3 Invites just logged in. ready to configure. seattle day 1. non-owner. 11:30amish. looks like elon was true to his word. | Got my invite too! Finally!!!!! Looks like my tweet to Elon worked. Yay!!!! The smile on my face is just too big to describe. I really needed this bit of good news after receiving some really bad news this morning. | 3 31 ~6:30PM online. Seattle. Dyyyiiinngggg. I m one of the idiots who will pay for expedited processing and overnight shipping when my hype meter is too elevated... like right now. So this is torture. Having said that I m not going to pay the premium I see for ready to order cars on Craig s List =) | 102 | 2 | 2,284 |
8bcghw | 817 | When looking for an electrician don t mention it s for a Tesla I m currently shopping around for an electrician to install a Tesla wall connector before my Model 3 arrives. I didn t think much of it but at first but then I started to notice massive differences in quotes between electricians depending on how I worded my email. I asked every electrician for the same actual work to be done... Install a 60 amp breaker and associated wiring over a 15 foot run and through 1 wall. I mentioned I already had the charging hardware I needed to be installed. Explained the breaker panel was in my unfinished basement that it had plenty of extra amperage and open spaces and didn t need to be upgraded etc. But in 3 quotes I said I wanted to install an Electric vehicle charger and in 3 quotes directly specified I wanted a Tesla wall connector installed. The quotes that I mentioned Tesla in ranged from $1400 \\- $1800 which is absolutely absurd for the amount of work being done. The three quotes just mentioning an electric vehicle charger ranged from $525 \\- $800 which is far closer to what this job should actually be. Anyway just a tip for anyone else looking to have their wall connector installed. | This is true not only for Tesla but any luxury brand. Never mention you are rich or bought expensive stuff. | Yeah I highly agree. Don t mention the word Tesla. The quotes are dramatically different for the same work when excluding the details that it is for a Tesla. | 103 | 16 | 2,285 |
8bcghw | 817 | When looking for an electrician don t mention it s for a Tesla I m currently shopping around for an electrician to install a Tesla wall connector before my Model 3 arrives. I didn t think much of it but at first but then I started to notice massive differences in quotes between electricians depending on how I worded my email. I asked every electrician for the same actual work to be done... Install a 60 amp breaker and associated wiring over a 15 foot run and through 1 wall. I mentioned I already had the charging hardware I needed to be installed. Explained the breaker panel was in my unfinished basement that it had plenty of extra amperage and open spaces and didn t need to be upgraded etc. But in 3 quotes I said I wanted to install an Electric vehicle charger and in 3 quotes directly specified I wanted a Tesla wall connector installed. The quotes that I mentioned Tesla in ranged from $1400 \\- $1800 which is absolutely absurd for the amount of work being done. The three quotes just mentioning an electric vehicle charger ranged from $525 \\- $800 which is far closer to what this job should actually be. Anyway just a tip for anyone else looking to have their wall connector installed. | This is true not only for Tesla but any luxury brand. Never mention you are rich or bought expensive stuff. | What if I mention I need a 14-50 for something else... like welding? Is that a good way to go? | 103 | 38 | 2,286 |
8bcghw | 817 | When looking for an electrician don t mention it s for a Tesla I m currently shopping around for an electrician to install a Tesla wall connector before my Model 3 arrives. I didn t think much of it but at first but then I started to notice massive differences in quotes between electricians depending on how I worded my email. I asked every electrician for the same actual work to be done... Install a 60 amp breaker and associated wiring over a 15 foot run and through 1 wall. I mentioned I already had the charging hardware I needed to be installed. Explained the breaker panel was in my unfinished basement that it had plenty of extra amperage and open spaces and didn t need to be upgraded etc. But in 3 quotes I said I wanted to install an Electric vehicle charger and in 3 quotes directly specified I wanted a Tesla wall connector installed. The quotes that I mentioned Tesla in ranged from $1400 \\- $1800 which is absolutely absurd for the amount of work being done. The three quotes just mentioning an electric vehicle charger ranged from $525 \\- $800 which is far closer to what this job should actually be. Anyway just a tip for anyone else looking to have their wall connector installed. | Paid $165 for my install of 14-50. Electrician knew all along it was for a Tesla. Guess he s a keeper. | I got a 14-50 installed in my garage the two electricians who asked what it was for wanted 400 and 600. The electrician who asked no questions about what I was going to use it for charged me 160...so yeah shop around and don t mention anything about tesla or EVs. | 62 | 2 | 2,287 |
8bcm31 | 185 | I lost my navigator this weekend. warning: room might get dusty. 8 1 2 years ago a girl was in a new city starting a new job and she was lonely so she fostered then adopted a dog. Not long after that she met a guy. The guy and the dog were INSTANT best friends and the guy and the girl had some chemistry too. The dog eventually convinced his momma that him her and that guy should all hang out and become a family. So we did. We started out in a 1 bedroom apartment with a Cavalier and a Moped between us. In 8 1 2 years we ve moved 7 times and had 6 different vehicles. We ve gone from a 1 bedroom with the Cavalier and moped to a 3 bedroom house with a fenced in yard a Subaru and recently a CPO Model S because I was too impatient waiting on Dual Motors...... The dog LOVED car rides...loved them. He would watch what you were doing with your legs and your hands and we always made the joke that he was learning how to drive. When I brought the Tesla home we went for a ride with Chill Mode and low-regen on....he loved it more than any other car he s been in. When we got home from that drive I let him sit in the driver s seat and let my wife take some pictures as he got to live his dream....HE WAS GONNA DRIVE!!!! (Sure it was Summon and it was only 20 feet but to him it was everything!) Sadly though he developed a respiratory infection 2 weeks ago and this past Sunday we had to say goodbye to him. He fought valiantly but the damage was done and there was no guarantee he would be the same dog after so we made the toughest decision we ve had to make. I miss him so much. Everything my wife and I have done has been with him in mind.....we moved out of a townhouse to get a place with a yard. She took a work-from-home job with a startup that allowed her to spend more time with him. That company got bought out and she was able to bring him to work at the new place. I ll never forget the look on his face when the car started moving with him in the driver s seat. I m glad I could help you accomplish your dream Buddy. RIP little guy. I love you. https: imgur.com a ZwHwV | It s not dusty I am just crying. What a beautifully told obituary to a wonderful friend! | So sorry man. Dogs are the best. I hope your heart heals soon :( | 36 | 10 | 2,288 |
8bj2tw | 86 | Clarification from Tesla concerning CPO refurbishment I got some clarification regarding the recent changes to Tesla s CPO refurbishment process. Here s what my sales advisor said. “Hello As you had placed your order prior to this change your car has gone through our refurbishment process and will be held to our high standards when you purchased. It is not affected by any recent changes to our program. The new changeover is being discussed a lot on forums from what I ve been told but the change isn t anything drastic to the state of our program. Before we would refurbish our used cars to conditions of no damage blemish scratches tears dents etc greater than 2” anywhere on the vehicle. ( This is the standard for your vehicle). We also guarantee full safety and mechanical checks and a renewed warranty for each vehicle at the end of the process. We are still going to offer the latter things but we are discontinuing the former cosmetic refurbishment. Tesla started leasing its first Model S about 3 years ago and we are anticipating to receive back a lot of vehicles over the next 6 – 12 months. We anticipate the majority of these will be in very good condition and will not need any cosmetic refurbishment. With the large number of anticipated cars and trades we will be having come in we had to make some changes to speed up our processing within our service department. We will not compromise on the safety or functionality of our vehicles so they will still get a thorough safety and mechanical check and renewed warranties. However we are eliminating the cosmetic refurbishment because we feel it will not be needed to maintain a good inventory of quality vehicles and it will allow our service team to make cars available for sale much more quickly. Cars with any accidents or damage that does not meet our high standards will be sent to auction or wholesaled. Overall it s a good process that I back but you definitely bought your car at the right time to guarantee a greater degree of quality at the end. Take care and let me know if you have any questions!” | I may be a bit more skeptical than most but I see this as a terrible development for customers and for Tesla. CPO sales are a great source of revenue for the company - after all they are getting to sell the same car for a profit twice. The Tesla CPOs are not beaters they are still generally over $50k or even $75k. Not addressing cosmetic issues such as scratches tears stains etc. is not only ridiculous at this price point but it calls into question the entire CPO buying process. Tesla has no real photos of the cars online. Just the stock pics. If Tesla suddenly stops trying to restore the cars to factory fresh can anyone really be confident in what they are getting? This hurts the whole program and affects Tesla s bottom line. The argument that it s just too hard is a terrible excuse. The lease returns have been a predictable event for literally YEARS and the fact that Tesla has not scaled a solution worries me about Tesla s operational capabilities. All I can conclude is that someone at Tesla thinks that they will continue selling CPOs just as well without bothering to clean them up. As I think that is probably an incorrect belief I m concerned. I want Tesla to succeed but this is a step backwards. | Good communication a little too late. Reminds me of the alcantara communication issue. They need to be upfront with CPO customers especially in the midst of this policy change. Correct me if I am wrong but the guy from yesterday s CPO issue did not get a similar advanced warning about the CPO program changes. | 70 | 4 | 2,289 |
8bj2tw | 86 | Clarification from Tesla concerning CPO refurbishment I got some clarification regarding the recent changes to Tesla s CPO refurbishment process. Here s what my sales advisor said. “Hello As you had placed your order prior to this change your car has gone through our refurbishment process and will be held to our high standards when you purchased. It is not affected by any recent changes to our program. The new changeover is being discussed a lot on forums from what I ve been told but the change isn t anything drastic to the state of our program. Before we would refurbish our used cars to conditions of no damage blemish scratches tears dents etc greater than 2” anywhere on the vehicle. ( This is the standard for your vehicle). We also guarantee full safety and mechanical checks and a renewed warranty for each vehicle at the end of the process. We are still going to offer the latter things but we are discontinuing the former cosmetic refurbishment. Tesla started leasing its first Model S about 3 years ago and we are anticipating to receive back a lot of vehicles over the next 6 – 12 months. We anticipate the majority of these will be in very good condition and will not need any cosmetic refurbishment. With the large number of anticipated cars and trades we will be having come in we had to make some changes to speed up our processing within our service department. We will not compromise on the safety or functionality of our vehicles so they will still get a thorough safety and mechanical check and renewed warranties. However we are eliminating the cosmetic refurbishment because we feel it will not be needed to maintain a good inventory of quality vehicles and it will allow our service team to make cars available for sale much more quickly. Cars with any accidents or damage that does not meet our high standards will be sent to auction or wholesaled. Overall it s a good process that I back but you definitely bought your car at the right time to guarantee a greater degree of quality at the end. Take care and let me know if you have any questions!” | I may be a bit more skeptical than most but I see this as a terrible development for customers and for Tesla. CPO sales are a great source of revenue for the company - after all they are getting to sell the same car for a profit twice. The Tesla CPOs are not beaters they are still generally over $50k or even $75k. Not addressing cosmetic issues such as scratches tears stains etc. is not only ridiculous at this price point but it calls into question the entire CPO buying process. Tesla has no real photos of the cars online. Just the stock pics. If Tesla suddenly stops trying to restore the cars to factory fresh can anyone really be confident in what they are getting? This hurts the whole program and affects Tesla s bottom line. The argument that it s just too hard is a terrible excuse. The lease returns have been a predictable event for literally YEARS and the fact that Tesla has not scaled a solution worries me about Tesla s operational capabilities. All I can conclude is that someone at Tesla thinks that they will continue selling CPOs just as well without bothering to clean them up. As I think that is probably an incorrect belief I m concerned. I want Tesla to succeed but this is a step backwards. | This seems fair to me. Honestly I think they fixed way too many things on my CPO S60 (things they pointed out) and I couldn t figure out why a company would waste its time and resources on such small issues. For example they replaced both taillights because they had bugs in them. Also there was about a 1 cm nick in the back bumper that I didn t even see and they spent a week repairing it. I had a P85 loaner the whole time so I didn t really care but jeez they were thorough. | 70 | 5 | 2,290 |
8bj2tw | 86 | Clarification from Tesla concerning CPO refurbishment I got some clarification regarding the recent changes to Tesla s CPO refurbishment process. Here s what my sales advisor said. “Hello As you had placed your order prior to this change your car has gone through our refurbishment process and will be held to our high standards when you purchased. It is not affected by any recent changes to our program. The new changeover is being discussed a lot on forums from what I ve been told but the change isn t anything drastic to the state of our program. Before we would refurbish our used cars to conditions of no damage blemish scratches tears dents etc greater than 2” anywhere on the vehicle. ( This is the standard for your vehicle). We also guarantee full safety and mechanical checks and a renewed warranty for each vehicle at the end of the process. We are still going to offer the latter things but we are discontinuing the former cosmetic refurbishment. Tesla started leasing its first Model S about 3 years ago and we are anticipating to receive back a lot of vehicles over the next 6 – 12 months. We anticipate the majority of these will be in very good condition and will not need any cosmetic refurbishment. With the large number of anticipated cars and trades we will be having come in we had to make some changes to speed up our processing within our service department. We will not compromise on the safety or functionality of our vehicles so they will still get a thorough safety and mechanical check and renewed warranties. However we are eliminating the cosmetic refurbishment because we feel it will not be needed to maintain a good inventory of quality vehicles and it will allow our service team to make cars available for sale much more quickly. Cars with any accidents or damage that does not meet our high standards will be sent to auction or wholesaled. Overall it s a good process that I back but you definitely bought your car at the right time to guarantee a greater degree of quality at the end. Take care and let me know if you have any questions!” | I may be a bit more skeptical than most but I see this as a terrible development for customers and for Tesla. CPO sales are a great source of revenue for the company - after all they are getting to sell the same car for a profit twice. The Tesla CPOs are not beaters they are still generally over $50k or even $75k. Not addressing cosmetic issues such as scratches tears stains etc. is not only ridiculous at this price point but it calls into question the entire CPO buying process. Tesla has no real photos of the cars online. Just the stock pics. If Tesla suddenly stops trying to restore the cars to factory fresh can anyone really be confident in what they are getting? This hurts the whole program and affects Tesla s bottom line. The argument that it s just too hard is a terrible excuse. The lease returns have been a predictable event for literally YEARS and the fact that Tesla has not scaled a solution worries me about Tesla s operational capabilities. All I can conclude is that someone at Tesla thinks that they will continue selling CPOs just as well without bothering to clean them up. As I think that is probably an incorrect belief I m concerned. I want Tesla to succeed but this is a step backwards. | An example of good communication. Kudos to your sales advisor. | 70 | 7 | 2,291 |
8briav | 177 | Tesla tweets updated global warming GIF Tweet: https: twitter.com Tesla status 984443782601977856?s=09 | For anyone that wants a direct link to the video here it is: [https: video.twimg.com tweet\\_video DalyUtyVAAM5lre.mp4](https: video.twimg.com tweet_video DalyUtyVAAM5lre.mp4) | I m always curious how we have any reliable long term data (like from 1850-1980) about global temperatures . According to NOAA electronic sensors only began being widely deployed about 25 years ago. Satellites are quite recent. Marine data has dramatically increased since 1980 but another way to look at that is that 25 years ago there were maybe 10-20% as many ocean temperature reports than we get today. If the answer is that there were enough to accurately plot the trend then are there WAY too many now? http: icoads.noaa.gov reclaim pdf marine-data-rescue.pdf https: www.ncdc.noaa.gov monitoring-references faq temperature-monitoring.php | 37 | 9 | 2,292 |
8bzv2r | 100 | Chinese Toy Company nails Model X except for one thing... [Ordered a Model X 1:32](https: imgur.com a 7GrAe) toy off of eBay from some company in China as its the only Tesla I can afford heh. Overall impressed with the amount of detail from the Frunk to the dash. They added lights and sounds but [I don t think they thought it through...](https: youtu.be 3XRpCti2us4) | Lol they even got the door gaps and alignment correct! | lol | 46 | 3 | 2,293 |
8c6tdh | 27 | Informed by a very credible executive at Tesla that the 3 I have is not compatible with CHAdeMO charging (even with software update) and requires retrofit of some sort Described as a wiring issue . | Automotive electronics person here I find this unlikely. The adapter speaks the CHAdeMO protocol and the car only needs a way to communicate with the adapter and accept DC power. The Model 3 has the same connector as the S X. There s a communication and power path into the car. Perhaps the current adapter is insufficient but I can t see any reason for a wiring issue in the car to cause the incompatibility. | Have you tried charging at one? | 42 | 4 | 2,294 |
8c6tdh | 27 | Informed by a very credible executive at Tesla that the 3 I have is not compatible with CHAdeMO charging (even with software update) and requires retrofit of some sort Described as a wiring issue . | Automotive electronics person here I find this unlikely. The adapter speaks the CHAdeMO protocol and the car only needs a way to communicate with the adapter and accept DC power. The Model 3 has the same connector as the S X. There s a communication and power path into the car. Perhaps the current adapter is insufficient but I can t see any reason for a wiring issue in the car to cause the incompatibility. | Well damn. That s not what people want to hear. | 42 | 10 | 2,295 |
8c8noz | 31 | [Discussion] ELI5 Request: My phone batteries go to crap after a couple years. Tesla batteries don t. Why? Any why don t phone electronic makers use the tech from tesla batteries to improve their product? | Tesla optimizes the battery for longevity at the cost of energy density | Tesla uses their own battery chemistry. They also have a good BMS that keeps the battery at optimal temps. They also tell you to only charge to 90% for daily driving. Phones do none of those things. | 52 | 19 | 2,296 |
8cdj2p | 156 | Bloomberg tracker now at 3070 per week Looks like 5k is going to happen sooner. Musk must be still sleeping at Fremont. | It s wrong though. In Elon s interview this week they were at 2 071. That s a more reliable figure. edit: I can t believe how many people downvoted this comment. Pure fingers in ears kind of behavior. Unless you think production magically went up from 2 000 to 3 000 in 5 days or that somehow a vaguely sampled and questionably constructed Bloomberg model is more significantly predictive than the literal production number given by Elon. | shows 2395 for me | 122 | 20 | 2,297 |
8cfmos | 35 | 2000mi (3220km) Model 3 roadtrip advice I m flying to Phoenix Arizona to pick up a newish Model 3 (I m impatient and impulsive) and driving it about 2000mi (3220km) to northern Iowa. I only have about 2.5 days to do it. I plan on making a lot of quick stops at superchargers along the way. This will be a nice way to stretch my legs every few hours. I ll be stopping once at a campground with electric hook-up and spending the night in the car. That stop is about 12 hours of driving from Phoenix. I haven t planned my 2nd sleep stop yet. With that being said: * I ve never driven a Tesla before. * This vehicle does not currently have autopilot features activated. * I ve never been to the Southwestern United States before. * I m only bringing a backpack. It s a Condor 3-day pack so a fairly large carry-on. I ll have a small blanket pillow sunglasses and a set of clothes. * The longest I ve ever driven in one day is a little over 8 hours. * All the trip planners I ve checked say this trip should take about 35 hours including supercharger times not counting sleep or other extended breaks. * Only the currently planned overnight stay involves having to charge up to 100%. Is there anything I need to know about driving through the Southwest? Anything additional I should pack? Does the Tesla sunshade fold fit in a backpack? Is that something I d be able to just show up and buy at the Tesla store in Phoenix? I ll probably hit up a Walmart to buy an emergency tire repair kit just in case. But I m not sure what else I should have for this trip. Any advice for a successful trip is appreciated! | Awesome! This should be a fun exciting experience if you ve never driven a Tesla before. I ve driven cross country a couple of times in my Model S75D and will be doing so again in a few weeks so here are some quick tips from my experiences. - Don t overthink trip planning. Go to tesla.com trips and see exactly what Tesla suggests as a charging plan. I ve tried other trip planners but in my experience having more options to guess at makes its predictions no more accurate. You ll have to do simple math yourself (more on that later) if the weather isn t good. - Make sure you have a good weather app on your phone and one that will show wind speed AND direction. The fluid dynamics that impact your energy consumption are the largest unknown variables. Essentially denser air (cold humid) = more energy consumption at any given speed. Higher wind velocity compared to the car s velocity = more energy consumption at any given speed. The best way to know if you can make it to the next supercharger if the weather isn t ideal is to reset your trip meter drive a few miles to get an idea of how much energy the car is using in those conditions and multiply that consumption (Wh mile) by the number of miles to the next charging stop. This is where you can add a contingency in miles. (I don t suggest just randomly adding X% on top of your suggested charge goal.) Now divide that number by 75 000 (the battery capacity in Wh) and that tells you the % battery you need to make it. Hopefully the weather will be kind to you and you won t even need to do this. In the S X there are great websites you can load on the center screen that show you weather wind speed and direction as you drive so you can see what you re dealing with. Unfortunately the 3 doesn t have a browser. - On that note I suggest you go into Settings and the Units screen (don t remember what it is called in the 3) and have the battery represented in percentage instead of miles of range. For the reasons I mention above range doesn t really tell you anything realistic because the car doesn t know what the weather is. It ll be a complete distraction. - You re going to love autopilot! It s great for long highway drives that have low traffic. You mention it s not activated yet which I take to mean the car you re buying hasn t been driven yet. Autopilot will become available after driving ~25-50 miles. It s not the exact same distance for everyone but it s negligible considering your distance. That ll give you time to get used to the car before you use it. It makes hours of highway driving a complete breeze! - If you ve never driven really long distances before I strongly suggest that you prioritize sleep. Driving 15-16 hours in a Tesla is not that bad if you re rested. If you re exhausted for the whole trip it will not be a pleasant experience my friend. - An air compressor is a good idea. I have one that has a sealant canister as well so if I m in Nowhere MI (which is often the case) and I get a flat I can inflate the tire and inject sealant as a temporary measure to patch the hole. Might help you make it home by your deadline without waiting hours for a tow or repair on the side of the road in Oklahoma. - You mention charging at a campground. I would call them and double-check what plugs they have. You may need to buy and adapter to take with you to actually charge there overnight. That s all that comes to mind at the moment. Good luck! | Read up on the manual on how to tow your Tesla as some tow truck drivers don t know the Do s and Don ts and can seriously cause unnecessary damages if you should find yourself run out of juice during an unexpected leg of your journey. | 36 | 6 | 2,298 |
8cfmos | 35 | 2000mi (3220km) Model 3 roadtrip advice I m flying to Phoenix Arizona to pick up a newish Model 3 (I m impatient and impulsive) and driving it about 2000mi (3220km) to northern Iowa. I only have about 2.5 days to do it. I plan on making a lot of quick stops at superchargers along the way. This will be a nice way to stretch my legs every few hours. I ll be stopping once at a campground with electric hook-up and spending the night in the car. That stop is about 12 hours of driving from Phoenix. I haven t planned my 2nd sleep stop yet. With that being said: * I ve never driven a Tesla before. * This vehicle does not currently have autopilot features activated. * I ve never been to the Southwestern United States before. * I m only bringing a backpack. It s a Condor 3-day pack so a fairly large carry-on. I ll have a small blanket pillow sunglasses and a set of clothes. * The longest I ve ever driven in one day is a little over 8 hours. * All the trip planners I ve checked say this trip should take about 35 hours including supercharger times not counting sleep or other extended breaks. * Only the currently planned overnight stay involves having to charge up to 100%. Is there anything I need to know about driving through the Southwest? Anything additional I should pack? Does the Tesla sunshade fold fit in a backpack? Is that something I d be able to just show up and buy at the Tesla store in Phoenix? I ll probably hit up a Walmart to buy an emergency tire repair kit just in case. But I m not sure what else I should have for this trip. Any advice for a successful trip is appreciated! | Awesome! This should be a fun exciting experience if you ve never driven a Tesla before. I ve driven cross country a couple of times in my Model S75D and will be doing so again in a few weeks so here are some quick tips from my experiences. - Don t overthink trip planning. Go to tesla.com trips and see exactly what Tesla suggests as a charging plan. I ve tried other trip planners but in my experience having more options to guess at makes its predictions no more accurate. You ll have to do simple math yourself (more on that later) if the weather isn t good. - Make sure you have a good weather app on your phone and one that will show wind speed AND direction. The fluid dynamics that impact your energy consumption are the largest unknown variables. Essentially denser air (cold humid) = more energy consumption at any given speed. Higher wind velocity compared to the car s velocity = more energy consumption at any given speed. The best way to know if you can make it to the next supercharger if the weather isn t ideal is to reset your trip meter drive a few miles to get an idea of how much energy the car is using in those conditions and multiply that consumption (Wh mile) by the number of miles to the next charging stop. This is where you can add a contingency in miles. (I don t suggest just randomly adding X% on top of your suggested charge goal.) Now divide that number by 75 000 (the battery capacity in Wh) and that tells you the % battery you need to make it. Hopefully the weather will be kind to you and you won t even need to do this. In the S X there are great websites you can load on the center screen that show you weather wind speed and direction as you drive so you can see what you re dealing with. Unfortunately the 3 doesn t have a browser. - On that note I suggest you go into Settings and the Units screen (don t remember what it is called in the 3) and have the battery represented in percentage instead of miles of range. For the reasons I mention above range doesn t really tell you anything realistic because the car doesn t know what the weather is. It ll be a complete distraction. - You re going to love autopilot! It s great for long highway drives that have low traffic. You mention it s not activated yet which I take to mean the car you re buying hasn t been driven yet. Autopilot will become available after driving ~25-50 miles. It s not the exact same distance for everyone but it s negligible considering your distance. That ll give you time to get used to the car before you use it. It makes hours of highway driving a complete breeze! - If you ve never driven really long distances before I strongly suggest that you prioritize sleep. Driving 15-16 hours in a Tesla is not that bad if you re rested. If you re exhausted for the whole trip it will not be a pleasant experience my friend. - An air compressor is a good idea. I have one that has a sealant canister as well so if I m in Nowhere MI (which is often the case) and I get a flat I can inflate the tire and inject sealant as a temporary measure to patch the hole. Might help you make it home by your deadline without waiting hours for a tow or repair on the side of the road in Oklahoma. - You mention charging at a campground. I would call them and double-check what plugs they have. You may need to buy and adapter to take with you to actually charge there overnight. That s all that comes to mind at the moment. Good luck! | Activate Autopilot before your drive. 2K miles is going to be a lot easier mentally with it. Get Camper for Tesla app for your iPhone to activate pseudo-camper mode for sleeping in the car. Use www.abetterrouteplanner.com to plan your supercharger stops. | 36 | 7 | 2,299 |
8ckdya | 52 | Easter egg idea: The Tesla wave . You use it when passing another Tesla driver and it winks the DRLs. Maybe a short press of both scroll wheels at the same time? | I d like to see a ping along the lines of knowing who just passed by.... Not like Bob Smith just passed you but more like whatever the car is named just passed you... kinda gamertag-ish style. So mine would say Ophelia just passed you . I realize there are inherent privacy issues with this so I know it would never happen. | Don t people who wink their headlights usually do so to warn incoming vehicles of trouble cops? | 40 | 10 | 2,300 |
8cnbvl | 35 | Tesla sends out bulletin to EU service centres not to assist an ongoing Model 3 euro road trip. Why? I know the car is not out yet in Europe but what do they have to lose? Source: https: www.facebook.com tsla3 posts 919662034871933 | Last time I read about this he was going to have to modify his car to be able to charge it at all in Europe. If that happened this seems like a safe move to avoid having the company involved with any high-profile breakdowns or safety issues. I very much appreciate the spirit of this trip but if I were in charge at Tesla I d likely make the same choice. The region is not ready for Model 3 yet. | Huh? I remember something similar was posted on 1. April. I thought it was an april fools joke. | 59 | 4 | 2,301 |
8cnbvl | 35 | Tesla sends out bulletin to EU service centres not to assist an ongoing Model 3 euro road trip. Why? I know the car is not out yet in Europe but what do they have to lose? Source: https: www.facebook.com tsla3 posts 919662034871933 | Last time I read about this he was going to have to modify his car to be able to charge it at all in Europe. If that happened this seems like a safe move to avoid having the company involved with any high-profile breakdowns or safety issues. I very much appreciate the spirit of this trip but if I were in charge at Tesla I d likely make the same choice. The region is not ready for Model 3 yet. | I think they feel that YouYou is abusing his car and don t want to give him any more free service. He ~~is definitively~~ *may very well be* above the 99th percentile of users right now. Edit: removed definitely. I have no proof of that. | 59 | 16 | 2,302 |
8cnbvl | 35 | Tesla sends out bulletin to EU service centres not to assist an ongoing Model 3 euro road trip. Why? I know the car is not out yet in Europe but what do they have to lose? Source: https: www.facebook.com tsla3 posts 919662034871933 | I have a bunch of different thoughts on this and really don t know which is true. One thing I learned after following most of his trip across the US and Canada is it s all about hype and publicity for him (which was when I quit actively following his FB updates) so this could be anything from a completely accurate statement to a way blown out of proportion statement (Tesla saying they couldn t modify the car for EU supercharging) to a completely false statement - and I really don t know which. | Huh? I remember something similar was posted on 1. April. I thought it was an april fools joke. | 34 | 4 | 2,303 |
8cslck | 22 | [Discussion] Besides waiting what can you do when all supercharging stations are occupied by non-Teslas? Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things just mildly annoyed. | post to r teslamotors ofcourse! | Depends on how it is signed. General use parking Ev parking Parking while charging only | 39 | 13 | 2,304 |
8d5ou3 | 714 | CT Bill to Allow Tesla Sales Passes Finance Committee Vote 32-19 Details of who voted https: www.cga.ct.gov 2018 TS h 2018HB-05310-R00FIN-CV107-TS.htm It previously passed the transportation committee on 3 23. The bill now has to be scheduled for a vote by the full CT house senate. The state legislature s last day this year is 5 9. For context the bills the previous 3 years also passed the transportation vote and the finance committee but never passed both the full senate and house. There was one year it did pass the house (2015). 2015: 26-5 for TRA no FIN vote Full House 116-32 https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=HB06682& which_year=2015 2016: voice vote for TRA 32-14 in FIN https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=00003& which_year=2016 2017: 25-10 in TRA 25-20 in FIN https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=HB07097& which_year=2017 | The dealership union keeps saying their business model is the best. If that s true than what are they afraid of? If in fact they are correct(they aren t) then consumers will choose them. | I still think it s horrible that Telsa is the only company that has to fight for the right to sell their cars and they are doing it the right way. I imagine they could set up a separate company that bought the cars from Tesla to sell to the consumers. But that s not the right way to do things. | 43 | 5 | 2,305 |
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