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z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq1b2j | ixqg3f0 | 1,669,378,006 | 1,669,387,153 | 19 | 406 | All states have a slight variation but typically work out as an involuntary hold. The clock typically starts once the patient has been deemed medically clear (psych patients typically have a slew of underlying conditions. The holiday will more than likely delay the “start”. If this is a first encounter they will likely keep them their the full allotted time. In regards to legality, health care professionals, law enforcement ( less so) do take these hold seriously. The courts have essentially deferred to the psychiatrists judgement more often times then not. Again depending on the state the psychiatrists might need to present to court in order to extend these holds, when they feel it is necessary. | Psych ER/ inpatient nurse here- the multiple trips to the ER with the multiple complaints of elevated heart rate and anxiety, (despite no claims of SI)are still red flags that need to be looked into further. That’s why she got admitted. | 0 | 9,147 | 21.368421 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq7zbq | ixqg3f0 | 1,669,382,630 | 1,669,387,153 | 17 | 406 | https://www.disabilityrightsohio.org/voluntary-patient-wants-to-leave-psych-hospital#:~:text=Voluntary%20patient%20means%20that%20you,be%20released%20from%20the%20hospital. Psych hospitals often stretch the legality of what they are supposed to do by blanket filing involuntary hold paperwork for voluntary admissions when they run up against deadlines for release. They are often understaffed, underpaid, and often DGAF about the patients. The problem with the 72-hour hold is that a doctor is required to see them within that time frame, but they often don't, so the 72-hour hold gets extended again and again and again. | Psych ER/ inpatient nurse here- the multiple trips to the ER with the multiple complaints of elevated heart rate and anxiety, (despite no claims of SI)are still red flags that need to be looked into further. That’s why she got admitted. | 0 | 4,523 | 23.882353 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq4g4r | ixq1b2j | 1,669,380,302 | 1,669,378,006 | 341 | 19 | If she’s not suicidal or homicidal, how did she end up in the ER and how did the ER determine she needed an inpatient admission? Inpatient psychiatric facilities typically fill up fast and are intended for safety/crisis stabilization only, so ER personnel don’t typically refer for inpatient treatment unless there is a crisis/safety concern. Once admitted, as other responses have stated, there’s typically a 72 hour hold to determine whether or not the patient presents a danger to self or others or whether they’re stable/lucid enough to care for themselves. The hospital does have a responsibility/liability to ensure safety before allowing someone to leave, and this is more than just the person stating they’re not a danger to themselves or others. Most likely those doing the evaluating (therapists and psychiatrists) are off for the holiday or if it’s accurate that Covid is spreading there, it’s possible they’re sick, so things take even longer. Yes, psychiatric hospitalization can be traumatizing in and of itself and yes, the system in general is very broken, so this can be a really frustrating and slow process. But at some point a medical doctor determined your gf needed crisis stabilization, so right now the best option is to wait it out until she’s determined to be safe to be discharged | All states have a slight variation but typically work out as an involuntary hold. The clock typically starts once the patient has been deemed medically clear (psych patients typically have a slew of underlying conditions. The holiday will more than likely delay the “start”. If this is a first encounter they will likely keep them their the full allotted time. In regards to legality, health care professionals, law enforcement ( less so) do take these hold seriously. The courts have essentially deferred to the psychiatrists judgement more often times then not. Again depending on the state the psychiatrists might need to present to court in order to extend these holds, when they feel it is necessary. | 1 | 2,296 | 17.947368 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqgekz | ixq6ccx | 1,669,387,314 | 1,669,381,578 | 324 | 70 | Not a lawyer.. i used to work in an ER/ psych unit.. If she got admitted to psych, the hospital staff would have had to do a psych eval on her, which is performed by a member of the crisis team, 9/10 the patient is alone when this is done as people don’t always tell the truth when someone else is around. Are you positive her aunt was there the entire time? And that she didn’t answer anything indicating she was suicidal? I won’t say everywhere, but where I worked it was extremely hard to actually get a psych admit. They would often try and set people up with outpatient care and would only admit if the patient indicated they were an immediate harm to themselves and/or others. About the therapist, I’m betting they won’t be in until Monday, with the holiday and weekend. | She can leave. Leaving AMA is a lengthy process. The medical director has to determine that she is well enough to be released because they cannot run the risk of releasing a person who may hurt themselves. It doesn't really matter whether she has been suicidal or not. She has to be evaluated before she can go. I think what you're misunderstanding is that she can begin the process to leave AMA whenever she wants to. The barriers she is running into are 1. It is a holiday week, the doctor and probably the therapists are not there til Monday. 2. She just say she wants to leave and be expected to let out. She will make the request from the medical director and meet with that person before she signs a million forms. They will let her out but there is a beurocratic process to that. Just be patient. No pun intended | 1 | 5,736 | 4.628571 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqgekz | ixqg75c | 1,669,387,314 | 1,669,387,207 | 324 | 50 | Not a lawyer.. i used to work in an ER/ psych unit.. If she got admitted to psych, the hospital staff would have had to do a psych eval on her, which is performed by a member of the crisis team, 9/10 the patient is alone when this is done as people don’t always tell the truth when someone else is around. Are you positive her aunt was there the entire time? And that she didn’t answer anything indicating she was suicidal? I won’t say everywhere, but where I worked it was extremely hard to actually get a psych admit. They would often try and set people up with outpatient care and would only admit if the patient indicated they were an immediate harm to themselves and/or others. About the therapist, I’m betting they won’t be in until Monday, with the holiday and weekend. | I went in to the pych unit in October. It was either 48 hours involuntary or 5 days voluntary. The caveat was the doctor could release me after 48 hours but he had to deem me safe. I went in under the influence and ended up there 10 days. It did help tremendously and im sober and extremely happy. Complete different mindset. | 1 | 107 | 6.48 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqgekz | ixq65f1 | 1,669,387,314 | 1,669,381,452 | 324 | 28 | Not a lawyer.. i used to work in an ER/ psych unit.. If she got admitted to psych, the hospital staff would have had to do a psych eval on her, which is performed by a member of the crisis team, 9/10 the patient is alone when this is done as people don’t always tell the truth when someone else is around. Are you positive her aunt was there the entire time? And that she didn’t answer anything indicating she was suicidal? I won’t say everywhere, but where I worked it was extremely hard to actually get a psych admit. They would often try and set people up with outpatient care and would only admit if the patient indicated they were an immediate harm to themselves and/or others. About the therapist, I’m betting they won’t be in until Monday, with the holiday and weekend. | Can’t leave for 72hours minimum once admitted. | 1 | 5,862 | 11.571429 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqgekz | ixq1b2j | 1,669,387,314 | 1,669,378,006 | 324 | 19 | Not a lawyer.. i used to work in an ER/ psych unit.. If she got admitted to psych, the hospital staff would have had to do a psych eval on her, which is performed by a member of the crisis team, 9/10 the patient is alone when this is done as people don’t always tell the truth when someone else is around. Are you positive her aunt was there the entire time? And that she didn’t answer anything indicating she was suicidal? I won’t say everywhere, but where I worked it was extremely hard to actually get a psych admit. They would often try and set people up with outpatient care and would only admit if the patient indicated they were an immediate harm to themselves and/or others. About the therapist, I’m betting they won’t be in until Monday, with the holiday and weekend. | All states have a slight variation but typically work out as an involuntary hold. The clock typically starts once the patient has been deemed medically clear (psych patients typically have a slew of underlying conditions. The holiday will more than likely delay the “start”. If this is a first encounter they will likely keep them their the full allotted time. In regards to legality, health care professionals, law enforcement ( less so) do take these hold seriously. The courts have essentially deferred to the psychiatrists judgement more often times then not. Again depending on the state the psychiatrists might need to present to court in order to extend these holds, when they feel it is necessary. | 1 | 9,308 | 17.052632 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqgekz | ixq7zbq | 1,669,387,314 | 1,669,382,630 | 324 | 17 | Not a lawyer.. i used to work in an ER/ psych unit.. If she got admitted to psych, the hospital staff would have had to do a psych eval on her, which is performed by a member of the crisis team, 9/10 the patient is alone when this is done as people don’t always tell the truth when someone else is around. Are you positive her aunt was there the entire time? And that she didn’t answer anything indicating she was suicidal? I won’t say everywhere, but where I worked it was extremely hard to actually get a psych admit. They would often try and set people up with outpatient care and would only admit if the patient indicated they were an immediate harm to themselves and/or others. About the therapist, I’m betting they won’t be in until Monday, with the holiday and weekend. | https://www.disabilityrightsohio.org/voluntary-patient-wants-to-leave-psych-hospital#:~:text=Voluntary%20patient%20means%20that%20you,be%20released%20from%20the%20hospital. Psych hospitals often stretch the legality of what they are supposed to do by blanket filing involuntary hold paperwork for voluntary admissions when they run up against deadlines for release. They are often understaffed, underpaid, and often DGAF about the patients. The problem with the 72-hour hold is that a doctor is required to see them within that time frame, but they often don't, so the 72-hour hold gets extended again and again and again. | 1 | 4,684 | 19.058824 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqgiao | ixq6ccx | 1,669,387,366 | 1,669,381,578 | 84 | 70 | One of three things can happen after you sign a three-day letter: The Hospital Agrees: Your request is approved. You get to leave the hospital. The Hospital Wants You to Stay: Hospital staff must file papers (called an affidavit) within three (3) business days of receiving your letter. Your letter becomes a request for a hearing. Immediate Release: The hospital staff does not file the affidavit within three (3) business days. You are allowed to leave immediately. | She can leave. Leaving AMA is a lengthy process. The medical director has to determine that she is well enough to be released because they cannot run the risk of releasing a person who may hurt themselves. It doesn't really matter whether she has been suicidal or not. She has to be evaluated before she can go. I think what you're misunderstanding is that she can begin the process to leave AMA whenever she wants to. The barriers she is running into are 1. It is a holiday week, the doctor and probably the therapists are not there til Monday. 2. She just say she wants to leave and be expected to let out. She will make the request from the medical director and meet with that person before she signs a million forms. They will let her out but there is a beurocratic process to that. Just be patient. No pun intended | 1 | 5,788 | 1.2 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqgiao | ixqg75c | 1,669,387,366 | 1,669,387,207 | 84 | 50 | One of three things can happen after you sign a three-day letter: The Hospital Agrees: Your request is approved. You get to leave the hospital. The Hospital Wants You to Stay: Hospital staff must file papers (called an affidavit) within three (3) business days of receiving your letter. Your letter becomes a request for a hearing. Immediate Release: The hospital staff does not file the affidavit within three (3) business days. You are allowed to leave immediately. | I went in to the pych unit in October. It was either 48 hours involuntary or 5 days voluntary. The caveat was the doctor could release me after 48 hours but he had to deem me safe. I went in under the influence and ended up there 10 days. It did help tremendously and im sober and extremely happy. Complete different mindset. | 1 | 159 | 1.68 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq65f1 | ixqgiao | 1,669,381,452 | 1,669,387,366 | 28 | 84 | Can’t leave for 72hours minimum once admitted. | One of three things can happen after you sign a three-day letter: The Hospital Agrees: Your request is approved. You get to leave the hospital. The Hospital Wants You to Stay: Hospital staff must file papers (called an affidavit) within three (3) business days of receiving your letter. Your letter becomes a request for a hearing. Immediate Release: The hospital staff does not file the affidavit within three (3) business days. You are allowed to leave immediately. | 0 | 5,914 | 3 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqgiao | ixq1b2j | 1,669,387,366 | 1,669,378,006 | 84 | 19 | One of three things can happen after you sign a three-day letter: The Hospital Agrees: Your request is approved. You get to leave the hospital. The Hospital Wants You to Stay: Hospital staff must file papers (called an affidavit) within three (3) business days of receiving your letter. Your letter becomes a request for a hearing. Immediate Release: The hospital staff does not file the affidavit within three (3) business days. You are allowed to leave immediately. | All states have a slight variation but typically work out as an involuntary hold. The clock typically starts once the patient has been deemed medically clear (psych patients typically have a slew of underlying conditions. The holiday will more than likely delay the “start”. If this is a first encounter they will likely keep them their the full allotted time. In regards to legality, health care professionals, law enforcement ( less so) do take these hold seriously. The courts have essentially deferred to the psychiatrists judgement more often times then not. Again depending on the state the psychiatrists might need to present to court in order to extend these holds, when they feel it is necessary. | 1 | 9,360 | 4.421053 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq7zbq | ixqgiao | 1,669,382,630 | 1,669,387,366 | 17 | 84 | https://www.disabilityrightsohio.org/voluntary-patient-wants-to-leave-psych-hospital#:~:text=Voluntary%20patient%20means%20that%20you,be%20released%20from%20the%20hospital. Psych hospitals often stretch the legality of what they are supposed to do by blanket filing involuntary hold paperwork for voluntary admissions when they run up against deadlines for release. They are often understaffed, underpaid, and often DGAF about the patients. The problem with the 72-hour hold is that a doctor is required to see them within that time frame, but they often don't, so the 72-hour hold gets extended again and again and again. | One of three things can happen after you sign a three-day letter: The Hospital Agrees: Your request is approved. You get to leave the hospital. The Hospital Wants You to Stay: Hospital staff must file papers (called an affidavit) within three (3) business days of receiving your letter. Your letter becomes a request for a hearing. Immediate Release: The hospital staff does not file the affidavit within three (3) business days. You are allowed to leave immediately. | 0 | 4,736 | 4.941176 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq65f1 | ixq6ccx | 1,669,381,452 | 1,669,381,578 | 28 | 70 | Can’t leave for 72hours minimum once admitted. | She can leave. Leaving AMA is a lengthy process. The medical director has to determine that she is well enough to be released because they cannot run the risk of releasing a person who may hurt themselves. It doesn't really matter whether she has been suicidal or not. She has to be evaluated before she can go. I think what you're misunderstanding is that she can begin the process to leave AMA whenever she wants to. The barriers she is running into are 1. It is a holiday week, the doctor and probably the therapists are not there til Monday. 2. She just say she wants to leave and be expected to let out. She will make the request from the medical director and meet with that person before she signs a million forms. They will let her out but there is a beurocratic process to that. Just be patient. No pun intended | 0 | 126 | 2.5 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq1b2j | ixq6ccx | 1,669,378,006 | 1,669,381,578 | 19 | 70 | All states have a slight variation but typically work out as an involuntary hold. The clock typically starts once the patient has been deemed medically clear (psych patients typically have a slew of underlying conditions. The holiday will more than likely delay the “start”. If this is a first encounter they will likely keep them their the full allotted time. In regards to legality, health care professionals, law enforcement ( less so) do take these hold seriously. The courts have essentially deferred to the psychiatrists judgement more often times then not. Again depending on the state the psychiatrists might need to present to court in order to extend these holds, when they feel it is necessary. | She can leave. Leaving AMA is a lengthy process. The medical director has to determine that she is well enough to be released because they cannot run the risk of releasing a person who may hurt themselves. It doesn't really matter whether she has been suicidal or not. She has to be evaluated before she can go. I think what you're misunderstanding is that she can begin the process to leave AMA whenever she wants to. The barriers she is running into are 1. It is a holiday week, the doctor and probably the therapists are not there til Monday. 2. She just say she wants to leave and be expected to let out. She will make the request from the medical director and meet with that person before she signs a million forms. They will let her out but there is a beurocratic process to that. Just be patient. No pun intended | 0 | 3,572 | 3.684211 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqx1uf | ixqg75c | 1,669,395,178 | 1,669,387,207 | 59 | 50 | Nurse here, not a lawyer: The point of an involuntary hold is to keep somebody under medical supervision to prevent them from harming themselves or others. AFAIK this is not a state specific mandate and is true for every state in the US. With that in mind, you and your girlfriend should ask staff directly involved in her care planning (the doctor(s), the nurse, the case manager, etc) what milestones she must meet to be medically cleared for discharge. She meets those and continues to not espouse an intent to harm herself or others she'll be able to leave. These 72 hour holds are legally mandated to be evaluated every shift by nurses and daily by the medical team. As for the meds She can ask the nurse for the information on the medications. Honestly, I'm surprised that I don't get asked by patients, but she can request a printout of the MAR (medication administration record) and information about the medications, like the pamphlet that comes with prescribed medications when you fill scripts at a pharmacy. | I went in to the pych unit in October. It was either 48 hours involuntary or 5 days voluntary. The caveat was the doctor could release me after 48 hours but he had to deem me safe. I went in under the influence and ended up there 10 days. It did help tremendously and im sober and extremely happy. Complete different mindset. | 1 | 7,971 | 1.18 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqx1uf | ixqn7yb | 1,669,395,178 | 1,669,390,667 | 59 | 32 | Nurse here, not a lawyer: The point of an involuntary hold is to keep somebody under medical supervision to prevent them from harming themselves or others. AFAIK this is not a state specific mandate and is true for every state in the US. With that in mind, you and your girlfriend should ask staff directly involved in her care planning (the doctor(s), the nurse, the case manager, etc) what milestones she must meet to be medically cleared for discharge. She meets those and continues to not espouse an intent to harm herself or others she'll be able to leave. These 72 hour holds are legally mandated to be evaluated every shift by nurses and daily by the medical team. As for the meds She can ask the nurse for the information on the medications. Honestly, I'm surprised that I don't get asked by patients, but she can request a printout of the MAR (medication administration record) and information about the medications, like the pamphlet that comes with prescribed medications when you fill scripts at a pharmacy. | Psych nurse here in Ohio! She has the write to write a “3 day letter” which revokes her voluntary status and will make her involuntary. She can be held up to 3 days involuntarily and then either be discharged OR if the provider thinks she has to stay then she would be probated by the court and presented before a judge. | 1 | 4,511 | 1.84375 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq65f1 | ixqx1uf | 1,669,381,452 | 1,669,395,178 | 28 | 59 | Can’t leave for 72hours minimum once admitted. | Nurse here, not a lawyer: The point of an involuntary hold is to keep somebody under medical supervision to prevent them from harming themselves or others. AFAIK this is not a state specific mandate and is true for every state in the US. With that in mind, you and your girlfriend should ask staff directly involved in her care planning (the doctor(s), the nurse, the case manager, etc) what milestones she must meet to be medically cleared for discharge. She meets those and continues to not espouse an intent to harm herself or others she'll be able to leave. These 72 hour holds are legally mandated to be evaluated every shift by nurses and daily by the medical team. As for the meds She can ask the nurse for the information on the medications. Honestly, I'm surprised that I don't get asked by patients, but she can request a printout of the MAR (medication administration record) and information about the medications, like the pamphlet that comes with prescribed medications when you fill scripts at a pharmacy. | 0 | 13,726 | 2.107143 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqx1uf | ixq1b2j | 1,669,395,178 | 1,669,378,006 | 59 | 19 | Nurse here, not a lawyer: The point of an involuntary hold is to keep somebody under medical supervision to prevent them from harming themselves or others. AFAIK this is not a state specific mandate and is true for every state in the US. With that in mind, you and your girlfriend should ask staff directly involved in her care planning (the doctor(s), the nurse, the case manager, etc) what milestones she must meet to be medically cleared for discharge. She meets those and continues to not espouse an intent to harm herself or others she'll be able to leave. These 72 hour holds are legally mandated to be evaluated every shift by nurses and daily by the medical team. As for the meds She can ask the nurse for the information on the medications. Honestly, I'm surprised that I don't get asked by patients, but she can request a printout of the MAR (medication administration record) and information about the medications, like the pamphlet that comes with prescribed medications when you fill scripts at a pharmacy. | All states have a slight variation but typically work out as an involuntary hold. The clock typically starts once the patient has been deemed medically clear (psych patients typically have a slew of underlying conditions. The holiday will more than likely delay the “start”. If this is a first encounter they will likely keep them their the full allotted time. In regards to legality, health care professionals, law enforcement ( less so) do take these hold seriously. The courts have essentially deferred to the psychiatrists judgement more often times then not. Again depending on the state the psychiatrists might need to present to court in order to extend these holds, when they feel it is necessary. | 1 | 17,172 | 3.105263 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqx1uf | ixq7zbq | 1,669,395,178 | 1,669,382,630 | 59 | 17 | Nurse here, not a lawyer: The point of an involuntary hold is to keep somebody under medical supervision to prevent them from harming themselves or others. AFAIK this is not a state specific mandate and is true for every state in the US. With that in mind, you and your girlfriend should ask staff directly involved in her care planning (the doctor(s), the nurse, the case manager, etc) what milestones she must meet to be medically cleared for discharge. She meets those and continues to not espouse an intent to harm herself or others she'll be able to leave. These 72 hour holds are legally mandated to be evaluated every shift by nurses and daily by the medical team. As for the meds She can ask the nurse for the information on the medications. Honestly, I'm surprised that I don't get asked by patients, but she can request a printout of the MAR (medication administration record) and information about the medications, like the pamphlet that comes with prescribed medications when you fill scripts at a pharmacy. | https://www.disabilityrightsohio.org/voluntary-patient-wants-to-leave-psych-hospital#:~:text=Voluntary%20patient%20means%20that%20you,be%20released%20from%20the%20hospital. Psych hospitals often stretch the legality of what they are supposed to do by blanket filing involuntary hold paperwork for voluntary admissions when they run up against deadlines for release. They are often understaffed, underpaid, and often DGAF about the patients. The problem with the 72-hour hold is that a doctor is required to see them within that time frame, but they often don't, so the 72-hour hold gets extended again and again and again. | 1 | 12,548 | 3.470588 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqg75c | ixq65f1 | 1,669,387,207 | 1,669,381,452 | 50 | 28 | I went in to the pych unit in October. It was either 48 hours involuntary or 5 days voluntary. The caveat was the doctor could release me after 48 hours but he had to deem me safe. I went in under the influence and ended up there 10 days. It did help tremendously and im sober and extremely happy. Complete different mindset. | Can’t leave for 72hours minimum once admitted. | 1 | 5,755 | 1.785714 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq1b2j | ixqg75c | 1,669,378,006 | 1,669,387,207 | 19 | 50 | All states have a slight variation but typically work out as an involuntary hold. The clock typically starts once the patient has been deemed medically clear (psych patients typically have a slew of underlying conditions. The holiday will more than likely delay the “start”. If this is a first encounter they will likely keep them their the full allotted time. In regards to legality, health care professionals, law enforcement ( less so) do take these hold seriously. The courts have essentially deferred to the psychiatrists judgement more often times then not. Again depending on the state the psychiatrists might need to present to court in order to extend these holds, when they feel it is necessary. | I went in to the pych unit in October. It was either 48 hours involuntary or 5 days voluntary. The caveat was the doctor could release me after 48 hours but he had to deem me safe. I went in under the influence and ended up there 10 days. It did help tremendously and im sober and extremely happy. Complete different mindset. | 0 | 9,201 | 2.631579 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqg75c | ixq7zbq | 1,669,387,207 | 1,669,382,630 | 50 | 17 | I went in to the pych unit in October. It was either 48 hours involuntary or 5 days voluntary. The caveat was the doctor could release me after 48 hours but he had to deem me safe. I went in under the influence and ended up there 10 days. It did help tremendously and im sober and extremely happy. Complete different mindset. | https://www.disabilityrightsohio.org/voluntary-patient-wants-to-leave-psych-hospital#:~:text=Voluntary%20patient%20means%20that%20you,be%20released%20from%20the%20hospital. Psych hospitals often stretch the legality of what they are supposed to do by blanket filing involuntary hold paperwork for voluntary admissions when they run up against deadlines for release. They are often understaffed, underpaid, and often DGAF about the patients. The problem with the 72-hour hold is that a doctor is required to see them within that time frame, but they often don't, so the 72-hour hold gets extended again and again and again. | 1 | 4,577 | 2.941176 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqn7yb | ixq65f1 | 1,669,390,667 | 1,669,381,452 | 32 | 28 | Psych nurse here in Ohio! She has the write to write a “3 day letter” which revokes her voluntary status and will make her involuntary. She can be held up to 3 days involuntarily and then either be discharged OR if the provider thinks she has to stay then she would be probated by the court and presented before a judge. | Can’t leave for 72hours minimum once admitted. | 1 | 9,215 | 1.142857 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqn7yb | ixq1b2j | 1,669,390,667 | 1,669,378,006 | 32 | 19 | Psych nurse here in Ohio! She has the write to write a “3 day letter” which revokes her voluntary status and will make her involuntary. She can be held up to 3 days involuntarily and then either be discharged OR if the provider thinks she has to stay then she would be probated by the court and presented before a judge. | All states have a slight variation but typically work out as an involuntary hold. The clock typically starts once the patient has been deemed medically clear (psych patients typically have a slew of underlying conditions. The holiday will more than likely delay the “start”. If this is a first encounter they will likely keep them their the full allotted time. In regards to legality, health care professionals, law enforcement ( less so) do take these hold seriously. The courts have essentially deferred to the psychiatrists judgement more often times then not. Again depending on the state the psychiatrists might need to present to court in order to extend these holds, when they feel it is necessary. | 1 | 12,661 | 1.684211 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixqn7yb | ixq7zbq | 1,669,390,667 | 1,669,382,630 | 32 | 17 | Psych nurse here in Ohio! She has the write to write a “3 day letter” which revokes her voluntary status and will make her involuntary. She can be held up to 3 days involuntarily and then either be discharged OR if the provider thinks she has to stay then she would be probated by the court and presented before a judge. | https://www.disabilityrightsohio.org/voluntary-patient-wants-to-leave-psych-hospital#:~:text=Voluntary%20patient%20means%20that%20you,be%20released%20from%20the%20hospital. Psych hospitals often stretch the legality of what they are supposed to do by blanket filing involuntary hold paperwork for voluntary admissions when they run up against deadlines for release. They are often understaffed, underpaid, and often DGAF about the patients. The problem with the 72-hour hold is that a doctor is required to see them within that time frame, but they often don't, so the 72-hour hold gets extended again and again and again. | 1 | 8,037 | 1.882353 |
z45f8w | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My girlfriend voluntarily admitted herself to inpatient. Now they won’t let her leave. When she was considering admission, she repeatedly asked if it was voluntary, and if she could leave anytime. They kept saying yes, including the final signature. Her aunt was witness to this, as she was with her in the ER. Then once she was in the facility, she wasn’t allowed to leave. She signed under false pretenses. The hospital claimed to have therapy, and that she’d have therapy everyday. It’s been 2 days, and there’s still no sign of a therapist anywhere. She’s given cups of pills throughout the day. Staff doesn’t tell her what they are. My girlfriend was once given a cup of “lights-out” pills. She thought they were sleep meds. She didn’t learn until later that they were anxiety meds. She was not suicidal or homicidal when she checked in, and she made that clear. She still makes it clear when talking to staff. Complaints can only be made after she leaves. But until then, her rights and her freedom are at the mercy of a doctor who’s only there once a day. Oh yeah, and also covid’s possibly spreading. This is in Ohio. | ixq65f1 | ixq1b2j | 1,669,381,452 | 1,669,378,006 | 28 | 19 | Can’t leave for 72hours minimum once admitted. | All states have a slight variation but typically work out as an involuntary hold. The clock typically starts once the patient has been deemed medically clear (psych patients typically have a slew of underlying conditions. The holiday will more than likely delay the “start”. If this is a first encounter they will likely keep them their the full allotted time. In regards to legality, health care professionals, law enforcement ( less so) do take these hold seriously. The courts have essentially deferred to the psychiatrists judgement more often times then not. Again depending on the state the psychiatrists might need to present to court in order to extend these holds, when they feel it is necessary. | 1 | 3,446 | 1.473684 |
ovi02s | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | My 19 year old brother is dating a 15 year old he started dating her when he was 18 (in college) and she was 14. We are twins so we are both 19 and We live in California so could he get in trouble for this? I know he could get in trouble for sleeping with her but could he for just "dating"? I don't know if they are sleeping together or not because they are out really late alone sometimes and no they didn't go to high school together they met when he was already in college. I told my brother my concerns but he told me that I was a hypocrite he said that it was the "same thing" because my girlfriend is 25. We started dating when I was 18 and she was 24. Could my brother get in trouble? And no my parents and her parents don't know. | h79cp14 | h7a022f | 1,627,776,831 | 1,627,790,230 | 42 | 217 | It’s definitely not the same thing. | OP, you should have your brother read the following: https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/blog/criminal-defense/does-california-have-a-romeo-and-juliet-law/ If your brother has sex with her, he faces one to three years in jail and a $10,000 fine. Remind him that everything looks rosy when they are in love and the relationship is secret. However, if they break up or if her parents find out, he could easily face serious charges. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned (or her parents). | 0 | 13,399 | 5.166667 |
ovi02s | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | My 19 year old brother is dating a 15 year old he started dating her when he was 18 (in college) and she was 14. We are twins so we are both 19 and We live in California so could he get in trouble for this? I know he could get in trouble for sleeping with her but could he for just "dating"? I don't know if they are sleeping together or not because they are out really late alone sometimes and no they didn't go to high school together they met when he was already in college. I told my brother my concerns but he told me that I was a hypocrite he said that it was the "same thing" because my girlfriend is 25. We started dating when I was 18 and she was 24. Could my brother get in trouble? And no my parents and her parents don't know. | h7b3u4c | h79cp14 | 1,627,822,211 | 1,627,776,831 | 183 | 42 | There’s no law against dating but they can’t have sex or send explicit photos to each other. If your brother wants to make like the 1950s and take her out for a burger and a milkshake then home, that’s legal. | It’s definitely not the same thing. | 1 | 45,380 | 4.357143 |
ovi02s | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | My 19 year old brother is dating a 15 year old he started dating her when he was 18 (in college) and she was 14. We are twins so we are both 19 and We live in California so could he get in trouble for this? I know he could get in trouble for sleeping with her but could he for just "dating"? I don't know if they are sleeping together or not because they are out really late alone sometimes and no they didn't go to high school together they met when he was already in college. I told my brother my concerns but he told me that I was a hypocrite he said that it was the "same thing" because my girlfriend is 25. We started dating when I was 18 and she was 24. Could my brother get in trouble? And no my parents and her parents don't know. | h7b3u4c | h7ag7b7 | 1,627,822,211 | 1,627,802,301 | 183 | 36 | There’s no law against dating but they can’t have sex or send explicit photos to each other. If your brother wants to make like the 1950s and take her out for a burger and a milkshake then home, that’s legal. | Yes, it’s rape regardless of age because she is a minor. The same does not apply to you and your girlfriend because you were 18 and therefore an adult. California does not have Romeo and Juliet laws, anyone under the age of 18 is a minor, 18 and older is an adult. | 1 | 19,910 | 5.083333 |
ovi02s | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | My 19 year old brother is dating a 15 year old he started dating her when he was 18 (in college) and she was 14. We are twins so we are both 19 and We live in California so could he get in trouble for this? I know he could get in trouble for sleeping with her but could he for just "dating"? I don't know if they are sleeping together or not because they are out really late alone sometimes and no they didn't go to high school together they met when he was already in college. I told my brother my concerns but he told me that I was a hypocrite he said that it was the "same thing" because my girlfriend is 25. We started dating when I was 18 and she was 24. Could my brother get in trouble? And no my parents and her parents don't know. | h79cp14 | h7bkzj6 | 1,627,776,831 | 1,627,831,137 | 42 | 87 | It’s definitely not the same thing. | It’s important he knows that if this goes to court that it won’t be misdemeanor statutory rape, this is felony statutory rape since she is under 16. Is it worth felony charges and probable sex offender registration of 20 years? And it doesn’t have to be penetrative sex for him to face charges, he could definitely be charged with lewd acts with a minor if they have done anything remotely sexually. Also, it’s fucked up to have to mention, but 15 year olds experiencing heartbreak are intense and all it takes is her saying “he made me perform sex acts” for him to become an alleged sex offender and rapist, even if he avoids convictions. Angry parents can lead to the exact same outcome even if she swears up and down they never touched. Even alleged crimes have a way of fuckin up lives. | 0 | 54,306 | 2.071429 |
ovi02s | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | My 19 year old brother is dating a 15 year old he started dating her when he was 18 (in college) and she was 14. We are twins so we are both 19 and We live in California so could he get in trouble for this? I know he could get in trouble for sleeping with her but could he for just "dating"? I don't know if they are sleeping together or not because they are out really late alone sometimes and no they didn't go to high school together they met when he was already in college. I told my brother my concerns but he told me that I was a hypocrite he said that it was the "same thing" because my girlfriend is 25. We started dating when I was 18 and she was 24. Could my brother get in trouble? And no my parents and her parents don't know. | h7ag7b7 | h7bkzj6 | 1,627,802,301 | 1,627,831,137 | 36 | 87 | Yes, it’s rape regardless of age because she is a minor. The same does not apply to you and your girlfriend because you were 18 and therefore an adult. California does not have Romeo and Juliet laws, anyone under the age of 18 is a minor, 18 and older is an adult. | It’s important he knows that if this goes to court that it won’t be misdemeanor statutory rape, this is felony statutory rape since she is under 16. Is it worth felony charges and probable sex offender registration of 20 years? And it doesn’t have to be penetrative sex for him to face charges, he could definitely be charged with lewd acts with a minor if they have done anything remotely sexually. Also, it’s fucked up to have to mention, but 15 year olds experiencing heartbreak are intense and all it takes is her saying “he made me perform sex acts” for him to become an alleged sex offender and rapist, even if he avoids convictions. Angry parents can lead to the exact same outcome even if she swears up and down they never touched. Even alleged crimes have a way of fuckin up lives. | 0 | 28,836 | 2.416667 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncc6sw | dnctigw | 1,506,055,263 | 1,506,090,697 | 213 | 244 | You also have to take into account that Ashley as an adult, signed up for this job WITH the knowledge that any interactions like this with students was illegal - and necessittated mandatory reporting. She chose to ignore that and committed what she knew was a crime. She knows shes a felon. Why OP has sympathy is understandable but Ashley made an informed mistake and unfortunately it will be life altering for her. To be frank would the same consideration also be tossed at "Ashley" if she was a 25 year old male? Crime is crime, all present: Consent for teenagers doesnt exist. Position of authority. Emotional manipulation. All are present here. Ashley dug their own grave. OP should do whats right for the people involved. | I am not a lawyer but a word of moral advice: you may think Ashley is "innocent" now and not want her to face consequences, but in a few years it's gonna click that she took sexual advantage of two teenagers who she was in a relationship of power over. If you had high school age kids, would you want them to have a counselor that slept with students? Go ahead and report her | 0 | 35,434 | 1.14554 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncippq | dnctigw | 1,506,070,986 | 1,506,090,697 | 56 | 244 | I want to point something else out, as soon as he tells his mother she has to tell the police, she's a mandatory reporter. There is no gray room with this. If she were to fail to report and the situation came out anyway AND it was discovered the mother knew, not only would she lose her license to be a principal, she'd lose her teaching certificate and would be facing charges. | I am not a lawyer but a word of moral advice: you may think Ashley is "innocent" now and not want her to face consequences, but in a few years it's gonna click that she took sexual advantage of two teenagers who she was in a relationship of power over. If you had high school age kids, would you want them to have a counselor that slept with students? Go ahead and report her | 0 | 19,711 | 4.357143 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncrmw7 | dnctigw | 1,506,088,506 | 1,506,090,697 | 55 | 244 | OP you posted about this before in r/relationships and you're gonna get the same answers here you did in the other subreddit- TURN ASHLEY IN. This is wildly messed up and Ashley knows its illegal and that she could lose her job and go to jail, that's why she asked you not to tell anyone. She's not right in the head and she's preying on your underage brother. You need to tell someone - your mom, the police, one of your teachers. Don't be concerned with the punishment Ashley receives or trying to protect her...legally this is statutory rape. She deserves to go to jail and lose her job. She knew that could happen when she decided to have sex with underage adults and she made the decision anyway. She's not a good person and she's not your friend. TURN HER IN. | I am not a lawyer but a word of moral advice: you may think Ashley is "innocent" now and not want her to face consequences, but in a few years it's gonna click that she took sexual advantage of two teenagers who she was in a relationship of power over. If you had high school age kids, would you want them to have a counselor that slept with students? Go ahead and report her | 0 | 2,191 | 4.436364 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncqptz | dnctigw | 1,506,087,348 | 1,506,090,697 | 22 | 244 | Ashley is committing a serious crime here. Please contact the police about it. She obviously does not take her professional duty seriously and is a sexual predator. A 25 year old who sleeps with minors is a sexual predator no matter how mature you think those minors are. Especially considering she is in a position of power - being their councillor. Everyone involved obviously understands that this is a criminal act, Ashley certainly does and would have known that long before she decided to become sexually involved with those students. Ashley is a danger to the students she teaches and needs to be removed from her job immediately and I do believe that legal action is appropriate. I understand that's it's difficult because you know and like her - but just because your brother and his partner seem okay with it doesn't mean it is not damaging to them and their understanding of consent and healthy sexuality. This is a disgusting breach of their safety, trust and welfare and just because they don't know it now, doesn't mean this isn't incredibly damaging. Also you don't know how many other students she is potentially sleeping with and how it is effecting them- this is very very serious and I implore you to report it. | I am not a lawyer but a word of moral advice: you may think Ashley is "innocent" now and not want her to face consequences, but in a few years it's gonna click that she took sexual advantage of two teenagers who she was in a relationship of power over. If you had high school age kids, would you want them to have a counselor that slept with students? Go ahead and report her | 0 | 3,349 | 11.090909 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dnctigw | dncocmr | 1,506,090,697 | 1,506,083,984 | 244 | 8 | I am not a lawyer but a word of moral advice: you may think Ashley is "innocent" now and not want her to face consequences, but in a few years it's gonna click that she took sexual advantage of two teenagers who she was in a relationship of power over. If you had high school age kids, would you want them to have a counselor that slept with students? Go ahead and report her | You should report this to the superintendent and the principal, as well as the police. | 1 | 6,713 | 30.5 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncrmw7 | dncqptz | 1,506,088,506 | 1,506,087,348 | 55 | 22 | OP you posted about this before in r/relationships and you're gonna get the same answers here you did in the other subreddit- TURN ASHLEY IN. This is wildly messed up and Ashley knows its illegal and that she could lose her job and go to jail, that's why she asked you not to tell anyone. She's not right in the head and she's preying on your underage brother. You need to tell someone - your mom, the police, one of your teachers. Don't be concerned with the punishment Ashley receives or trying to protect her...legally this is statutory rape. She deserves to go to jail and lose her job. She knew that could happen when she decided to have sex with underage adults and she made the decision anyway. She's not a good person and she's not your friend. TURN HER IN. | Ashley is committing a serious crime here. Please contact the police about it. She obviously does not take her professional duty seriously and is a sexual predator. A 25 year old who sleeps with minors is a sexual predator no matter how mature you think those minors are. Especially considering she is in a position of power - being their councillor. Everyone involved obviously understands that this is a criminal act, Ashley certainly does and would have known that long before she decided to become sexually involved with those students. Ashley is a danger to the students she teaches and needs to be removed from her job immediately and I do believe that legal action is appropriate. I understand that's it's difficult because you know and like her - but just because your brother and his partner seem okay with it doesn't mean it is not damaging to them and their understanding of consent and healthy sexuality. This is a disgusting breach of their safety, trust and welfare and just because they don't know it now, doesn't mean this isn't incredibly damaging. Also you don't know how many other students she is potentially sleeping with and how it is effecting them- this is very very serious and I implore you to report it. | 1 | 1,158 | 2.5 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncocmr | dncrmw7 | 1,506,083,984 | 1,506,088,506 | 8 | 55 | You should report this to the superintendent and the principal, as well as the police. | OP you posted about this before in r/relationships and you're gonna get the same answers here you did in the other subreddit- TURN ASHLEY IN. This is wildly messed up and Ashley knows its illegal and that she could lose her job and go to jail, that's why she asked you not to tell anyone. She's not right in the head and she's preying on your underage brother. You need to tell someone - your mom, the police, one of your teachers. Don't be concerned with the punishment Ashley receives or trying to protect her...legally this is statutory rape. She deserves to go to jail and lose her job. She knew that could happen when she decided to have sex with underage adults and she made the decision anyway. She's not a good person and she's not your friend. TURN HER IN. | 0 | 4,522 | 6.875 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncyqot | dncvb8i | 1,506,096,267 | 1,506,092,636 | 50 | 25 | When you're 25 and you look back on this, youll realize very quickly just how young 17/18 really is in comparison to 25 year olds. Youll think, "oh wow i let a rapist get away and take advantage of some kids". How long have you guys known ashley? how many years? | Out of curiosity (I am not a lawyer), since OP seems pretty determined to not report this person, if someone else finds out about this and finds out OP knew about it and didn't do anything, would OP face consequences as well? | 1 | 3,631 | 2 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncqptz | dncyqot | 1,506,087,348 | 1,506,096,267 | 22 | 50 | Ashley is committing a serious crime here. Please contact the police about it. She obviously does not take her professional duty seriously and is a sexual predator. A 25 year old who sleeps with minors is a sexual predator no matter how mature you think those minors are. Especially considering she is in a position of power - being their councillor. Everyone involved obviously understands that this is a criminal act, Ashley certainly does and would have known that long before she decided to become sexually involved with those students. Ashley is a danger to the students she teaches and needs to be removed from her job immediately and I do believe that legal action is appropriate. I understand that's it's difficult because you know and like her - but just because your brother and his partner seem okay with it doesn't mean it is not damaging to them and their understanding of consent and healthy sexuality. This is a disgusting breach of their safety, trust and welfare and just because they don't know it now, doesn't mean this isn't incredibly damaging. Also you don't know how many other students she is potentially sleeping with and how it is effecting them- this is very very serious and I implore you to report it. | When you're 25 and you look back on this, youll realize very quickly just how young 17/18 really is in comparison to 25 year olds. Youll think, "oh wow i let a rapist get away and take advantage of some kids". How long have you guys known ashley? how many years? | 0 | 8,919 | 2.272727 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncyqot | dncocmr | 1,506,096,267 | 1,506,083,984 | 50 | 8 | When you're 25 and you look back on this, youll realize very quickly just how young 17/18 really is in comparison to 25 year olds. Youll think, "oh wow i let a rapist get away and take advantage of some kids". How long have you guys known ashley? how many years? | You should report this to the superintendent and the principal, as well as the police. | 1 | 12,283 | 6.25 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncvb8i | dnd1fy8 | 1,506,092,636 | 1,506,099,089 | 25 | 31 | Out of curiosity (I am not a lawyer), since OP seems pretty determined to not report this person, if someone else finds out about this and finds out OP knew about it and didn't do anything, would OP face consequences as well? | This is late and not legal advice but you should tell your older sister and let her make the decision. It sounds like you look up to Ashley and aren't really being objective at what is going on. I think your older sister will have a better hold of what to do. | 0 | 6,453 | 1.24 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncqptz | dnd1fy8 | 1,506,087,348 | 1,506,099,089 | 22 | 31 | Ashley is committing a serious crime here. Please contact the police about it. She obviously does not take her professional duty seriously and is a sexual predator. A 25 year old who sleeps with minors is a sexual predator no matter how mature you think those minors are. Especially considering she is in a position of power - being their councillor. Everyone involved obviously understands that this is a criminal act, Ashley certainly does and would have known that long before she decided to become sexually involved with those students. Ashley is a danger to the students she teaches and needs to be removed from her job immediately and I do believe that legal action is appropriate. I understand that's it's difficult because you know and like her - but just because your brother and his partner seem okay with it doesn't mean it is not damaging to them and their understanding of consent and healthy sexuality. This is a disgusting breach of their safety, trust and welfare and just because they don't know it now, doesn't mean this isn't incredibly damaging. Also you don't know how many other students she is potentially sleeping with and how it is effecting them- this is very very serious and I implore you to report it. | This is late and not legal advice but you should tell your older sister and let her make the decision. It sounds like you look up to Ashley and aren't really being objective at what is going on. I think your older sister will have a better hold of what to do. | 0 | 11,741 | 1.409091 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dnd1fy8 | dncocmr | 1,506,099,089 | 1,506,083,984 | 31 | 8 | This is late and not legal advice but you should tell your older sister and let her make the decision. It sounds like you look up to Ashley and aren't really being objective at what is going on. I think your older sister will have a better hold of what to do. | You should report this to the superintendent and the principal, as well as the police. | 1 | 15,105 | 3.875 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dnd1fy8 | dnd15f6 | 1,506,099,089 | 1,506,098,784 | 31 | 6 | This is late and not legal advice but you should tell your older sister and let her make the decision. It sounds like you look up to Ashley and aren't really being objective at what is going on. I think your older sister will have a better hold of what to do. | In Ohio at least its a crime. There was a counselor in my local school district that had sex with an 18 year student. The student later mentioned it in therapy session a few years later. Therapist is a mandatory reporter, and did what they were supposed to. Counselor lost her job, teaching license, husband, did jail time, and is registered sex offender. | 1 | 305 | 5.166667 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncqptz | dncvb8i | 1,506,087,348 | 1,506,092,636 | 22 | 25 | Ashley is committing a serious crime here. Please contact the police about it. She obviously does not take her professional duty seriously and is a sexual predator. A 25 year old who sleeps with minors is a sexual predator no matter how mature you think those minors are. Especially considering she is in a position of power - being their councillor. Everyone involved obviously understands that this is a criminal act, Ashley certainly does and would have known that long before she decided to become sexually involved with those students. Ashley is a danger to the students she teaches and needs to be removed from her job immediately and I do believe that legal action is appropriate. I understand that's it's difficult because you know and like her - but just because your brother and his partner seem okay with it doesn't mean it is not damaging to them and their understanding of consent and healthy sexuality. This is a disgusting breach of their safety, trust and welfare and just because they don't know it now, doesn't mean this isn't incredibly damaging. Also you don't know how many other students she is potentially sleeping with and how it is effecting them- this is very very serious and I implore you to report it. | Out of curiosity (I am not a lawyer), since OP seems pretty determined to not report this person, if someone else finds out about this and finds out OP knew about it and didn't do anything, would OP face consequences as well? | 0 | 5,288 | 1.136364 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncvb8i | dncocmr | 1,506,092,636 | 1,506,083,984 | 25 | 8 | Out of curiosity (I am not a lawyer), since OP seems pretty determined to not report this person, if someone else finds out about this and finds out OP knew about it and didn't do anything, would OP face consequences as well? | You should report this to the superintendent and the principal, as well as the police. | 1 | 8,652 | 3.125 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncocmr | dncqptz | 1,506,083,984 | 1,506,087,348 | 8 | 22 | You should report this to the superintendent and the principal, as well as the police. | Ashley is committing a serious crime here. Please contact the police about it. She obviously does not take her professional duty seriously and is a sexual predator. A 25 year old who sleeps with minors is a sexual predator no matter how mature you think those minors are. Especially considering she is in a position of power - being their councillor. Everyone involved obviously understands that this is a criminal act, Ashley certainly does and would have known that long before she decided to become sexually involved with those students. Ashley is a danger to the students she teaches and needs to be removed from her job immediately and I do believe that legal action is appropriate. I understand that's it's difficult because you know and like her - but just because your brother and his partner seem okay with it doesn't mean it is not damaging to them and their understanding of consent and healthy sexuality. This is a disgusting breach of their safety, trust and welfare and just because they don't know it now, doesn't mean this isn't incredibly damaging. Also you don't know how many other students she is potentially sleeping with and how it is effecting them- this is very very serious and I implore you to report it. | 0 | 3,364 | 2.75 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dncocmr | dnd54pt | 1,506,083,984 | 1,506,102,958 | 8 | 12 | You should report this to the superintendent and the principal, as well as the police. | If she does this again, THAT is on you because you knowingly chose to let a rapist get away with a crime. | 0 | 18,974 | 1.5 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dnd54pt | dnd3srf | 1,506,102,958 | 1,506,101,560 | 12 | 7 | If she does this again, THAT is on you because you knowingly chose to let a rapist get away with a crime. | You've been thinking about this for at least a week. You have seen everyone telling you to do the right thing. Do it. | 1 | 1,398 | 1.714286 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dnd15f6 | dnd54pt | 1,506,098,784 | 1,506,102,958 | 6 | 12 | In Ohio at least its a crime. There was a counselor in my local school district that had sex with an 18 year student. The student later mentioned it in therapy session a few years later. Therapist is a mandatory reporter, and did what they were supposed to. Counselor lost her job, teaching license, husband, did jail time, and is registered sex offender. | If she does this again, THAT is on you because you knowingly chose to let a rapist get away with a crime. | 0 | 4,174 | 2 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dnd5gkb | dncocmr | 1,506,103,306 | 1,506,083,984 | 10 | 8 | I am not a lawyer but I am in education. Ashley is in deep shit legally. She broke tons of ethical standards and laws. | You should report this to the superintendent and the principal, as well as the police. | 1 | 19,322 | 1.25 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dnd5gkb | dnd3srf | 1,506,103,306 | 1,506,101,560 | 10 | 7 | I am not a lawyer but I am in education. Ashley is in deep shit legally. She broke tons of ethical standards and laws. | You've been thinking about this for at least a week. You have seen everyone telling you to do the right thing. Do it. | 1 | 1,746 | 1.428571 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dnd5gkb | dnd15f6 | 1,506,103,306 | 1,506,098,784 | 10 | 6 | I am not a lawyer but I am in education. Ashley is in deep shit legally. She broke tons of ethical standards and laws. | In Ohio at least its a crime. There was a counselor in my local school district that had sex with an 18 year student. The student later mentioned it in therapy session a few years later. Therapist is a mandatory reporter, and did what they were supposed to. Counselor lost her job, teaching license, husband, did jail time, and is registered sex offender. | 1 | 4,522 | 1.666667 |
71ny8h | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | How much legal trouble can my family friend who is also a school counselor to the school I go to get into for sleeping with my 17 year old brother and his 18 year old girlfriend. Both of them have her as the counselor.[VA] My friend Ashley is the school counselor at our school and she's 25 years old. We met her through my older sister as my sister and Ashley met in college. My younger brother is 17 and his girlfriend Rachael is 18. They have been friends for 12 years now so Rachael is pretty much family as well. Long story short I caught my brother, Rachael, and Ashley all in my brother's bed naked. We all talked later and they confessed that Ashley has been sleeping with them for about 6 months now. They begged me not to tell because Ashley would lose her job and she could face serious legal consequences. Not only that it would later her friendship with my sister. I am still internally debating whether I should tell anyone about this. Add to this situation that my mom is a principal at another school in our county and I'm stuck. I've decided that if Ashley could actually face severe consequences like jail time I'm not going to tell anybody. If she would just get fired and have her wrist slapped I may tell someone. What kind of punishment can Ashley be looking at if this comes to light? | dnd3srf | dnd15f6 | 1,506,101,560 | 1,506,098,784 | 7 | 6 | You've been thinking about this for at least a week. You have seen everyone telling you to do the right thing. Do it. | In Ohio at least its a crime. There was a counselor in my local school district that had sex with an 18 year student. The student later mentioned it in therapy session a few years later. Therapist is a mandatory reporter, and did what they were supposed to. Counselor lost her job, teaching license, husband, did jail time, and is registered sex offender. | 1 | 2,776 | 1.166667 |
d9uhlg | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Cyclist killed my dog, and sent me to the emergency room almost a month ago. A week ago a coworker sent me pictures and a video of the incident posted by the cyclist. Police don't seem to care at all and are telling me it is a civil issue now. Hi, i am in Ontario Canada and i am looking for some help. On August 24th around 4 PM i was jogging with my dog on a paved trail. This path is considered mixed use and you see everyone from cyclists to joggers to just people sitting around and watching nature. As i was jogging someone on a bicycle came ripping around a corner at an extremely high speed, and collided with my dog and me. I just remember being hit and then apparently my head slammed against the ground. Someone else just behind us saw the incident, and apparently the cyclist after colliding with us took off. The lady ended up calling 911 and i was rushed to the emergency room, while this lady apparently rushed my dog to an emergency vet, where he passed away on the way. I ended up getting a bunch of stitches on my head, and suffered from a few cracked ribs. I explained what happened to the police and they made a report but since they had no way to id the person they couldn't do much. Last week a coworker who knew about my incident DM'ed me a bunch of pictures of a post in a facebook group, along with the video of the incident. The asshole was complaining about his bike being damaged and how people shouldn't be allowed to walk along this certain path. Not long after it was posted it was removed. I ended up bringing this information to the police and said they would investigate. Today after not hearing anything i contacted the same officer, who told me the file is closed and it is now a civil issue as it was obviously an accident. I don't understand how this can be true or fair. Can someone enlighten me? | f1lprni | f1m4m8v | 1,569,563,045 | 1,569,584,027 | 128 | 354 | Given this was a trail, the Highway Traffic Act doesn’t apply. Barring being able to charge them with criminal negligence or assault, there’s no criminal matter here. Your sole recourse is to sue the cyclist for damages. | > it is now a civil issue as it was obviously an accident. I don't understand how this can be true or fair. It was an "accident" in as much as the cyclist clearly didn't intend to injure you or kill your dog (or damage his bike). That doesn't mean you have no recourse, it just means (in the eyes of the police, at least) he didn't commit a crime. That isn't necessarily true, but that's their position. You need to sue the cyclist for damage to your property (which, under the law, your dog is), and any medical costs/loss of earnings etc. | 0 | 20,982 | 2.765625 |
d9uhlg | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Cyclist killed my dog, and sent me to the emergency room almost a month ago. A week ago a coworker sent me pictures and a video of the incident posted by the cyclist. Police don't seem to care at all and are telling me it is a civil issue now. Hi, i am in Ontario Canada and i am looking for some help. On August 24th around 4 PM i was jogging with my dog on a paved trail. This path is considered mixed use and you see everyone from cyclists to joggers to just people sitting around and watching nature. As i was jogging someone on a bicycle came ripping around a corner at an extremely high speed, and collided with my dog and me. I just remember being hit and then apparently my head slammed against the ground. Someone else just behind us saw the incident, and apparently the cyclist after colliding with us took off. The lady ended up calling 911 and i was rushed to the emergency room, while this lady apparently rushed my dog to an emergency vet, where he passed away on the way. I ended up getting a bunch of stitches on my head, and suffered from a few cracked ribs. I explained what happened to the police and they made a report but since they had no way to id the person they couldn't do much. Last week a coworker who knew about my incident DM'ed me a bunch of pictures of a post in a facebook group, along with the video of the incident. The asshole was complaining about his bike being damaged and how people shouldn't be allowed to walk along this certain path. Not long after it was posted it was removed. I ended up bringing this information to the police and said they would investigate. Today after not hearing anything i contacted the same officer, who told me the file is closed and it is now a civil issue as it was obviously an accident. I don't understand how this can be true or fair. Can someone enlighten me? | f1m4m8v | f1lh2mi | 1,569,584,027 | 1,569,554,610 | 354 | 41 | > it is now a civil issue as it was obviously an accident. I don't understand how this can be true or fair. It was an "accident" in as much as the cyclist clearly didn't intend to injure you or kill your dog (or damage his bike). That doesn't mean you have no recourse, it just means (in the eyes of the police, at least) he didn't commit a crime. That isn't necessarily true, but that's their position. You need to sue the cyclist for damage to your property (which, under the law, your dog is), and any medical costs/loss of earnings etc. | The cyclist was going in the opposite direction of you? Were you and your dog on the correct side of the pathway? | 1 | 29,417 | 8.634146 |
d9uhlg | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Cyclist killed my dog, and sent me to the emergency room almost a month ago. A week ago a coworker sent me pictures and a video of the incident posted by the cyclist. Police don't seem to care at all and are telling me it is a civil issue now. Hi, i am in Ontario Canada and i am looking for some help. On August 24th around 4 PM i was jogging with my dog on a paved trail. This path is considered mixed use and you see everyone from cyclists to joggers to just people sitting around and watching nature. As i was jogging someone on a bicycle came ripping around a corner at an extremely high speed, and collided with my dog and me. I just remember being hit and then apparently my head slammed against the ground. Someone else just behind us saw the incident, and apparently the cyclist after colliding with us took off. The lady ended up calling 911 and i was rushed to the emergency room, while this lady apparently rushed my dog to an emergency vet, where he passed away on the way. I ended up getting a bunch of stitches on my head, and suffered from a few cracked ribs. I explained what happened to the police and they made a report but since they had no way to id the person they couldn't do much. Last week a coworker who knew about my incident DM'ed me a bunch of pictures of a post in a facebook group, along with the video of the incident. The asshole was complaining about his bike being damaged and how people shouldn't be allowed to walk along this certain path. Not long after it was posted it was removed. I ended up bringing this information to the police and said they would investigate. Today after not hearing anything i contacted the same officer, who told me the file is closed and it is now a civil issue as it was obviously an accident. I don't understand how this can be true or fair. Can someone enlighten me? | f1lnok9 | f1m4m8v | 1,569,560,603 | 1,569,584,027 | 9 | 354 | This is considered a traffic accident. It is not a criminal matter. It is a civil issue between you and him where you could sue him for damages. | > it is now a civil issue as it was obviously an accident. I don't understand how this can be true or fair. It was an "accident" in as much as the cyclist clearly didn't intend to injure you or kill your dog (or damage his bike). That doesn't mean you have no recourse, it just means (in the eyes of the police, at least) he didn't commit a crime. That isn't necessarily true, but that's their position. You need to sue the cyclist for damage to your property (which, under the law, your dog is), and any medical costs/loss of earnings etc. | 0 | 23,424 | 39.333333 |
d9uhlg | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Cyclist killed my dog, and sent me to the emergency room almost a month ago. A week ago a coworker sent me pictures and a video of the incident posted by the cyclist. Police don't seem to care at all and are telling me it is a civil issue now. Hi, i am in Ontario Canada and i am looking for some help. On August 24th around 4 PM i was jogging with my dog on a paved trail. This path is considered mixed use and you see everyone from cyclists to joggers to just people sitting around and watching nature. As i was jogging someone on a bicycle came ripping around a corner at an extremely high speed, and collided with my dog and me. I just remember being hit and then apparently my head slammed against the ground. Someone else just behind us saw the incident, and apparently the cyclist after colliding with us took off. The lady ended up calling 911 and i was rushed to the emergency room, while this lady apparently rushed my dog to an emergency vet, where he passed away on the way. I ended up getting a bunch of stitches on my head, and suffered from a few cracked ribs. I explained what happened to the police and they made a report but since they had no way to id the person they couldn't do much. Last week a coworker who knew about my incident DM'ed me a bunch of pictures of a post in a facebook group, along with the video of the incident. The asshole was complaining about his bike being damaged and how people shouldn't be allowed to walk along this certain path. Not long after it was posted it was removed. I ended up bringing this information to the police and said they would investigate. Today after not hearing anything i contacted the same officer, who told me the file is closed and it is now a civil issue as it was obviously an accident. I don't understand how this can be true or fair. Can someone enlighten me? | f1lh2mi | f1lprni | 1,569,554,610 | 1,569,563,045 | 41 | 128 | The cyclist was going in the opposite direction of you? Were you and your dog on the correct side of the pathway? | Given this was a trail, the Highway Traffic Act doesn’t apply. Barring being able to charge them with criminal negligence or assault, there’s no criminal matter here. Your sole recourse is to sue the cyclist for damages. | 0 | 8,435 | 3.121951 |
d9uhlg | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Cyclist killed my dog, and sent me to the emergency room almost a month ago. A week ago a coworker sent me pictures and a video of the incident posted by the cyclist. Police don't seem to care at all and are telling me it is a civil issue now. Hi, i am in Ontario Canada and i am looking for some help. On August 24th around 4 PM i was jogging with my dog on a paved trail. This path is considered mixed use and you see everyone from cyclists to joggers to just people sitting around and watching nature. As i was jogging someone on a bicycle came ripping around a corner at an extremely high speed, and collided with my dog and me. I just remember being hit and then apparently my head slammed against the ground. Someone else just behind us saw the incident, and apparently the cyclist after colliding with us took off. The lady ended up calling 911 and i was rushed to the emergency room, while this lady apparently rushed my dog to an emergency vet, where he passed away on the way. I ended up getting a bunch of stitches on my head, and suffered from a few cracked ribs. I explained what happened to the police and they made a report but since they had no way to id the person they couldn't do much. Last week a coworker who knew about my incident DM'ed me a bunch of pictures of a post in a facebook group, along with the video of the incident. The asshole was complaining about his bike being damaged and how people shouldn't be allowed to walk along this certain path. Not long after it was posted it was removed. I ended up bringing this information to the police and said they would investigate. Today after not hearing anything i contacted the same officer, who told me the file is closed and it is now a civil issue as it was obviously an accident. I don't understand how this can be true or fair. Can someone enlighten me? | f1lprni | f1lnok9 | 1,569,563,045 | 1,569,560,603 | 128 | 9 | Given this was a trail, the Highway Traffic Act doesn’t apply. Barring being able to charge them with criminal negligence or assault, there’s no criminal matter here. Your sole recourse is to sue the cyclist for damages. | This is considered a traffic accident. It is not a criminal matter. It is a civil issue between you and him where you could sue him for damages. | 1 | 2,442 | 14.222222 |
ri62s3 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | I'm 17 and 5 months from 18, my gf is 18 and my mom wants to call the police on her (Wisconsin) So I've been with this girl since we were both 16, and after some really dumb stuff went down like our messages getting looked through and me and her complaining and ranting about my mom, nothing serious, my mom got super pissed and wants to press charges against my gf because she's dating a minor. I would just like to know what is the worst trouble we could get into with something like this. We live a bit from each other so the last time we did any, ahem "activities" she was still 17. We've sent messages and such about stuff like that but never actually did anything. So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in, and what would be the most likely outcome for this. I appreciate any answers or help that can be given. Also this is my first post here so if anything is sloppy and details are missing I apologize. | how2usx | hov4vst | 1,639,726,066 | 1,639,708,132 | 206 | 177 | Sexual intercourse with a child 16 or older occurs when there is sexual intercourse between a minor who is 16 or 17 and a defendant who is 19 or older (unless the defendant is the minor's spouse, described below). This offense is a class A misdemeanor, which incurs a fine of up to $10,000, up to nine months in jail, or both. (Wis. Stat. §§ 939.51, 948.09 (2018).) Underage sexual activity involves the following acts between individuals who are not spouses: sexual contact between a 15-year-old minor and a defendant younger than 19 years of age, orsexual intercourse between a minor who is 15, 16, or 17 years old and a defendant younger than 19 years of age. Underage sexual activity is a class A misdemeanor, and a conviction can result in a fine of up to $10,000, nine months in jail, or both. (Wis. Stat. §§ 939.51, 948.093 (2018).) Looks like your mom is a idiot homie. Most states have laws like this for your exact scenario. | In reality it's not likely to go anywhere if you aren't helping build the case as the alleged "victim" - especially if you can truthfully say that you never did anything after she turned 18. If any police do try to question either of you though you should both remain silent and insist on an attorney. One or both of you could unwittingly implicate yourselves in something that does cross some legal line, and end up in trouble because mom wanted to make a point. Your mom sounds delightful. | 1 | 17,934 | 1.163842 |
ri62s3 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | I'm 17 and 5 months from 18, my gf is 18 and my mom wants to call the police on her (Wisconsin) So I've been with this girl since we were both 16, and after some really dumb stuff went down like our messages getting looked through and me and her complaining and ranting about my mom, nothing serious, my mom got super pissed and wants to press charges against my gf because she's dating a minor. I would just like to know what is the worst trouble we could get into with something like this. We live a bit from each other so the last time we did any, ahem "activities" she was still 17. We've sent messages and such about stuff like that but never actually did anything. So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in, and what would be the most likely outcome for this. I appreciate any answers or help that can be given. Also this is my first post here so if anything is sloppy and details are missing I apologize. | how2usx | hov831x | 1,639,726,066 | 1,639,709,547 | 206 | 43 | Sexual intercourse with a child 16 or older occurs when there is sexual intercourse between a minor who is 16 or 17 and a defendant who is 19 or older (unless the defendant is the minor's spouse, described below). This offense is a class A misdemeanor, which incurs a fine of up to $10,000, up to nine months in jail, or both. (Wis. Stat. §§ 939.51, 948.09 (2018).) Underage sexual activity involves the following acts between individuals who are not spouses: sexual contact between a 15-year-old minor and a defendant younger than 19 years of age, orsexual intercourse between a minor who is 15, 16, or 17 years old and a defendant younger than 19 years of age. Underage sexual activity is a class A misdemeanor, and a conviction can result in a fine of up to $10,000, nine months in jail, or both. (Wis. Stat. §§ 939.51, 948.093 (2018).) Looks like your mom is a idiot homie. Most states have laws like this for your exact scenario. | > So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in Misdemeanor sexual assault charge and possibly being put on a sex offender registry. That is for sex, provided you weren't on any drugs. Various types of touching & groping is ok. But that would only happen if 1a) you testify against her, or 1b.) she confesses, or 1c.) your mother has access to your messages that make it clear you've had sex, AND 2.) your locale has a prosecutor that wants to go after a teenage romance. I'd say you need to lock down your comms for the next 7 months and make sure there is no electronic record that amounts to acknowledging you've had sex. Then make sure she knows that you'd never testify against her so she wouldn't ever get pressured into confessing anything. And don't drink or partake of the devil's lettuce if you are going to do some hanky panky. Also, past interactions while she was 17 are safe. | 1 | 16,519 | 4.790698 |
ri62s3 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | I'm 17 and 5 months from 18, my gf is 18 and my mom wants to call the police on her (Wisconsin) So I've been with this girl since we were both 16, and after some really dumb stuff went down like our messages getting looked through and me and her complaining and ranting about my mom, nothing serious, my mom got super pissed and wants to press charges against my gf because she's dating a minor. I would just like to know what is the worst trouble we could get into with something like this. We live a bit from each other so the last time we did any, ahem "activities" she was still 17. We've sent messages and such about stuff like that but never actually did anything. So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in, and what would be the most likely outcome for this. I appreciate any answers or help that can be given. Also this is my first post here so if anything is sloppy and details are missing I apologize. | hovxf1p | how2usx | 1,639,722,499 | 1,639,726,066 | 32 | 206 | Just to clarify, those texts you sent are just sexual in language correct? No pictures? Because if you're sending her pictures of you naked, that would run her afoul of CP laws. But if it's just sexy language than it should be good (I am not a lawyer). | Sexual intercourse with a child 16 or older occurs when there is sexual intercourse between a minor who is 16 or 17 and a defendant who is 19 or older (unless the defendant is the minor's spouse, described below). This offense is a class A misdemeanor, which incurs a fine of up to $10,000, up to nine months in jail, or both. (Wis. Stat. §§ 939.51, 948.09 (2018).) Underage sexual activity involves the following acts between individuals who are not spouses: sexual contact between a 15-year-old minor and a defendant younger than 19 years of age, orsexual intercourse between a minor who is 15, 16, or 17 years old and a defendant younger than 19 years of age. Underage sexual activity is a class A misdemeanor, and a conviction can result in a fine of up to $10,000, nine months in jail, or both. (Wis. Stat. §§ 939.51, 948.093 (2018).) Looks like your mom is a idiot homie. Most states have laws like this for your exact scenario. | 0 | 3,567 | 6.4375 |
ri62s3 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | I'm 17 and 5 months from 18, my gf is 18 and my mom wants to call the police on her (Wisconsin) So I've been with this girl since we were both 16, and after some really dumb stuff went down like our messages getting looked through and me and her complaining and ranting about my mom, nothing serious, my mom got super pissed and wants to press charges against my gf because she's dating a minor. I would just like to know what is the worst trouble we could get into with something like this. We live a bit from each other so the last time we did any, ahem "activities" she was still 17. We've sent messages and such about stuff like that but never actually did anything. So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in, and what would be the most likely outcome for this. I appreciate any answers or help that can be given. Also this is my first post here so if anything is sloppy and details are missing I apologize. | how83sr | hov831x | 1,639,729,934 | 1,639,709,547 | 51 | 43 | To go one step further than another person said, if either of you have any sexually suggestive pictures of you, or of her before she turned 18, delete them. Those can get both if you in serious trouble (even if you have pictures of yourself). They are not worth the risk. | > So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in Misdemeanor sexual assault charge and possibly being put on a sex offender registry. That is for sex, provided you weren't on any drugs. Various types of touching & groping is ok. But that would only happen if 1a) you testify against her, or 1b.) she confesses, or 1c.) your mother has access to your messages that make it clear you've had sex, AND 2.) your locale has a prosecutor that wants to go after a teenage romance. I'd say you need to lock down your comms for the next 7 months and make sure there is no electronic record that amounts to acknowledging you've had sex. Then make sure she knows that you'd never testify against her so she wouldn't ever get pressured into confessing anything. And don't drink or partake of the devil's lettuce if you are going to do some hanky panky. Also, past interactions while she was 17 are safe. | 1 | 20,387 | 1.186047 |
ri62s3 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | I'm 17 and 5 months from 18, my gf is 18 and my mom wants to call the police on her (Wisconsin) So I've been with this girl since we were both 16, and after some really dumb stuff went down like our messages getting looked through and me and her complaining and ranting about my mom, nothing serious, my mom got super pissed and wants to press charges against my gf because she's dating a minor. I would just like to know what is the worst trouble we could get into with something like this. We live a bit from each other so the last time we did any, ahem "activities" she was still 17. We've sent messages and such about stuff like that but never actually did anything. So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in, and what would be the most likely outcome for this. I appreciate any answers or help that can be given. Also this is my first post here so if anything is sloppy and details are missing I apologize. | how83sr | hovxf1p | 1,639,729,934 | 1,639,722,499 | 51 | 32 | To go one step further than another person said, if either of you have any sexually suggestive pictures of you, or of her before she turned 18, delete them. Those can get both if you in serious trouble (even if you have pictures of yourself). They are not worth the risk. | Just to clarify, those texts you sent are just sexual in language correct? No pictures? Because if you're sending her pictures of you naked, that would run her afoul of CP laws. But if it's just sexy language than it should be good (I am not a lawyer). | 1 | 7,435 | 1.59375 |
ri62s3 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | I'm 17 and 5 months from 18, my gf is 18 and my mom wants to call the police on her (Wisconsin) So I've been with this girl since we were both 16, and after some really dumb stuff went down like our messages getting looked through and me and her complaining and ranting about my mom, nothing serious, my mom got super pissed and wants to press charges against my gf because she's dating a minor. I would just like to know what is the worst trouble we could get into with something like this. We live a bit from each other so the last time we did any, ahem "activities" she was still 17. We've sent messages and such about stuff like that but never actually did anything. So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in, and what would be the most likely outcome for this. I appreciate any answers or help that can be given. Also this is my first post here so if anything is sloppy and details are missing I apologize. | how7njc | how83sr | 1,639,729,583 | 1,639,729,934 | 2 | 51 | unless you did she hurt you in some way this won't go anywhere. only slightly concerning thing would be is if you or her sent nudes between these ages, but again it shouldn't be a problem in the first place so it probably won't be | To go one step further than another person said, if either of you have any sexually suggestive pictures of you, or of her before she turned 18, delete them. Those can get both if you in serious trouble (even if you have pictures of yourself). They are not worth the risk. | 0 | 351 | 25.5 |
ri62s3 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | I'm 17 and 5 months from 18, my gf is 18 and my mom wants to call the police on her (Wisconsin) So I've been with this girl since we were both 16, and after some really dumb stuff went down like our messages getting looked through and me and her complaining and ranting about my mom, nothing serious, my mom got super pissed and wants to press charges against my gf because she's dating a minor. I would just like to know what is the worst trouble we could get into with something like this. We live a bit from each other so the last time we did any, ahem "activities" she was still 17. We've sent messages and such about stuff like that but never actually did anything. So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in, and what would be the most likely outcome for this. I appreciate any answers or help that can be given. Also this is my first post here so if anything is sloppy and details are missing I apologize. | howo125 | how7njc | 1,639,741,895 | 1,639,729,583 | 7 | 2 | Everything is fine unless you sent nudes. | unless you did she hurt you in some way this won't go anywhere. only slightly concerning thing would be is if you or her sent nudes between these ages, but again it shouldn't be a problem in the first place so it probably won't be | 1 | 12,312 | 3.5 |
ri62s3 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | I'm 17 and 5 months from 18, my gf is 18 and my mom wants to call the police on her (Wisconsin) So I've been with this girl since we were both 16, and after some really dumb stuff went down like our messages getting looked through and me and her complaining and ranting about my mom, nothing serious, my mom got super pissed and wants to press charges against my gf because she's dating a minor. I would just like to know what is the worst trouble we could get into with something like this. We live a bit from each other so the last time we did any, ahem "activities" she was still 17. We've sent messages and such about stuff like that but never actually did anything. So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in, and what would be the most likely outcome for this. I appreciate any answers or help that can be given. Also this is my first post here so if anything is sloppy and details are missing I apologize. | hoyeqoo | how7njc | 1,639,768,677 | 1,639,729,583 | 3 | 2 | Not a lawyer here, but from my reading I found this My source “Kissing is not illegal. Sexual intercourse with someone under the age of 18 is illegal in Wisconsin. Also, Wisconsin does not have a “close in age” law, so if an 18 year old has sex with a 16 year old, the 18 year old can be charged with statutory rape.” | unless you did she hurt you in some way this won't go anywhere. only slightly concerning thing would be is if you or her sent nudes between these ages, but again it shouldn't be a problem in the first place so it probably won't be | 1 | 39,094 | 1.5 |
ri62s3 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | I'm 17 and 5 months from 18, my gf is 18 and my mom wants to call the police on her (Wisconsin) So I've been with this girl since we were both 16, and after some really dumb stuff went down like our messages getting looked through and me and her complaining and ranting about my mom, nothing serious, my mom got super pissed and wants to press charges against my gf because she's dating a minor. I would just like to know what is the worst trouble we could get into with something like this. We live a bit from each other so the last time we did any, ahem "activities" she was still 17. We've sent messages and such about stuff like that but never actually did anything. So I was wondering what the worst trouble she could get in, and what would be the most likely outcome for this. I appreciate any answers or help that can be given. Also this is my first post here so if anything is sloppy and details are missing I apologize. | hox8ngc | hoyeqoo | 1,639,752,366 | 1,639,768,677 | 2 | 3 | Another thing - if you sent your gf any naked pics, she could be in trouble for possession of child pornography (depending on your state). And the same with you if she sent you pics of her while she was underage. It could get a little messy. | Not a lawyer here, but from my reading I found this My source “Kissing is not illegal. Sexual intercourse with someone under the age of 18 is illegal in Wisconsin. Also, Wisconsin does not have a “close in age” law, so if an 18 year old has sex with a 16 year old, the 18 year old can be charged with statutory rape.” | 0 | 16,311 | 1.5 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igk2cfz | igjzywn | 1,658,088,594 | 1,658,087,565 | 1,087 | 9 | I'm not sure what you mean by they plan to evict you out of the house. They aren't on the lease and they do not own the home, correct? They are not your landlord? If so, they have no basis to evict you. They have no authority over where you, an adult, live, and what contracts you enter into with third parties. Of course, they can withhold support from you, like stop pitching in for the rent payments. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | 1 | 1,029 | 120.777778 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkge3d | igkxnzo | 1,658,094,645 | 1,658,102,655 | 102 | 104 | your father can't evict you, but he can stop paying for rent and utilities. | I think you're just really confused with the lingo, terminology, etc. Maybe you THOUGHT your parents said they will evict you. But what they really said was that "you will get evicted " b/c you can't pay rent without their help. So you WILL eventually get evicted by the landlord. And is the landlord a random person you don't know? Are they your parents friends? More details = better? | 0 | 8,010 | 1.019608 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkxnzo | igkgibw | 1,658,102,655 | 1,658,094,698 | 104 | 46 | I think you're just really confused with the lingo, terminology, etc. Maybe you THOUGHT your parents said they will evict you. But what they really said was that "you will get evicted " b/c you can't pay rent without their help. So you WILL eventually get evicted by the landlord. And is the landlord a random person you don't know? Are they your parents friends? More details = better? | They have as much right to kick you out of your house as I do which is to say none at all. They can, of course, stop providing financial aid to you and your brother at any time. | 1 | 7,957 | 2.26087 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkf5wd | igkxnzo | 1,658,094,102 | 1,658,102,655 | 22 | 104 | Sounds like you and your brother can evict your parents if you would like to. | I think you're just really confused with the lingo, terminology, etc. Maybe you THOUGHT your parents said they will evict you. But what they really said was that "you will get evicted " b/c you can't pay rent without their help. So you WILL eventually get evicted by the landlord. And is the landlord a random person you don't know? Are they your parents friends? More details = better? | 0 | 8,553 | 4.727273 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igjzywn | igkxnzo | 1,658,087,565 | 1,658,102,655 | 9 | 104 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | I think you're just really confused with the lingo, terminology, etc. Maybe you THOUGHT your parents said they will evict you. But what they really said was that "you will get evicted " b/c you can't pay rent without their help. So you WILL eventually get evicted by the landlord. And is the landlord a random person you don't know? Are they your parents friends? More details = better? | 0 | 15,090 | 11.555556 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkxnzo | igks7s2 | 1,658,102,655 | 1,658,100,007 | 104 | 2 | I think you're just really confused with the lingo, terminology, etc. Maybe you THOUGHT your parents said they will evict you. But what they really said was that "you will get evicted " b/c you can't pay rent without their help. So you WILL eventually get evicted by the landlord. And is the landlord a random person you don't know? Are they your parents friends? More details = better? | They have no legal basis to evict you, but if they work with your brother to dump your stuff outside, have a back up plan. Would police where you are help you in a case like that? If they manhandle you out, that would be assualt. | 1 | 2,648 | 52 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkf5wd | igkge3d | 1,658,094,102 | 1,658,094,645 | 22 | 102 | Sounds like you and your brother can evict your parents if you would like to. | your father can't evict you, but he can stop paying for rent and utilities. | 0 | 543 | 4.636364 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkge3d | igjzywn | 1,658,094,645 | 1,658,087,565 | 102 | 9 | your father can't evict you, but he can stop paying for rent and utilities. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | 1 | 7,080 | 11.333333 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkgibw | igkf5wd | 1,658,094,698 | 1,658,094,102 | 46 | 22 | They have as much right to kick you out of your house as I do which is to say none at all. They can, of course, stop providing financial aid to you and your brother at any time. | Sounds like you and your brother can evict your parents if you would like to. | 1 | 596 | 2.090909 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkgibw | igjzywn | 1,658,094,698 | 1,658,087,565 | 46 | 9 | They have as much right to kick you out of your house as I do which is to say none at all. They can, of course, stop providing financial aid to you and your brother at any time. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | 1 | 7,133 | 5.111111 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkf5wd | igl2qvd | 1,658,094,102 | 1,658,105,145 | 22 | 39 | Sounds like you and your brother can evict your parents if you would like to. | So, I am asking for clarification here. 1. Your father doesn’t live there, but helps you pay for things, correct? 2. You pay the landlord directly for YOUR share only, correct? 3. Your father and brother have NOT picked up your share to pay, but rather the landlord is letting you go into debt to him for the missing shares knowing your situation and letting you pay back pay to him once your disability payments start. Is that correct on all three of those counts? If so, there is nothing your father can do. If I am wrong on any or all of those counts, it doesn’t matter, there is still nothing your father can do. Well, let me change that. There is nothing your father can legally do. A lot of times, people ignorant of the laws will just go through somebody’s stuff outside and yell about eviction. If your father does this, call the cops immediately and file police reports. Don’t hesitate because of family or whatever. Nobody can do this. Eviction laws are pretty stout to not leave someone homeless without warning. So, look at the Florida Eviction laws summary on NOLO and give them a careful look through. The only person who can evict you is the landlord. But, even then, it isn’t just a “Imma scream eviction and yo ass is gone!” scenario. It’s a process of law. Make sure you understand your landlord and that he is giving you this time of grace. Try to do it in a text message or email so you have a written record. Don’t talk to your father about this again. For that matter, your brother or mother either. If any of them start, pull your phone out and say “I’m recording this conversation for legal reasons.” In Florida, both parties must consent to the recording. But, if you announce that you are doing it and use VIDEO, then it falls under the video laws, not the voice recording laws. Go back in your memory and make sure you understand what your father was saying. Was he warning what might happen? Was he threatening to stop making payments? Make sure. | 0 | 11,043 | 1.772727 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl2qvd | igjzywn | 1,658,105,145 | 1,658,087,565 | 39 | 9 | So, I am asking for clarification here. 1. Your father doesn’t live there, but helps you pay for things, correct? 2. You pay the landlord directly for YOUR share only, correct? 3. Your father and brother have NOT picked up your share to pay, but rather the landlord is letting you go into debt to him for the missing shares knowing your situation and letting you pay back pay to him once your disability payments start. Is that correct on all three of those counts? If so, there is nothing your father can do. If I am wrong on any or all of those counts, it doesn’t matter, there is still nothing your father can do. Well, let me change that. There is nothing your father can legally do. A lot of times, people ignorant of the laws will just go through somebody’s stuff outside and yell about eviction. If your father does this, call the cops immediately and file police reports. Don’t hesitate because of family or whatever. Nobody can do this. Eviction laws are pretty stout to not leave someone homeless without warning. So, look at the Florida Eviction laws summary on NOLO and give them a careful look through. The only person who can evict you is the landlord. But, even then, it isn’t just a “Imma scream eviction and yo ass is gone!” scenario. It’s a process of law. Make sure you understand your landlord and that he is giving you this time of grace. Try to do it in a text message or email so you have a written record. Don’t talk to your father about this again. For that matter, your brother or mother either. If any of them start, pull your phone out and say “I’m recording this conversation for legal reasons.” In Florida, both parties must consent to the recording. But, if you announce that you are doing it and use VIDEO, then it falls under the video laws, not the voice recording laws. Go back in your memory and make sure you understand what your father was saying. Was he warning what might happen? Was he threatening to stop making payments? Make sure. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | 1 | 17,580 | 4.333333 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igks7s2 | igl2qvd | 1,658,100,007 | 1,658,105,145 | 2 | 39 | They have no legal basis to evict you, but if they work with your brother to dump your stuff outside, have a back up plan. Would police where you are help you in a case like that? If they manhandle you out, that would be assualt. | So, I am asking for clarification here. 1. Your father doesn’t live there, but helps you pay for things, correct? 2. You pay the landlord directly for YOUR share only, correct? 3. Your father and brother have NOT picked up your share to pay, but rather the landlord is letting you go into debt to him for the missing shares knowing your situation and letting you pay back pay to him once your disability payments start. Is that correct on all three of those counts? If so, there is nothing your father can do. If I am wrong on any or all of those counts, it doesn’t matter, there is still nothing your father can do. Well, let me change that. There is nothing your father can legally do. A lot of times, people ignorant of the laws will just go through somebody’s stuff outside and yell about eviction. If your father does this, call the cops immediately and file police reports. Don’t hesitate because of family or whatever. Nobody can do this. Eviction laws are pretty stout to not leave someone homeless without warning. So, look at the Florida Eviction laws summary on NOLO and give them a careful look through. The only person who can evict you is the landlord. But, even then, it isn’t just a “Imma scream eviction and yo ass is gone!” scenario. It’s a process of law. Make sure you understand your landlord and that he is giving you this time of grace. Try to do it in a text message or email so you have a written record. Don’t talk to your father about this again. For that matter, your brother or mother either. If any of them start, pull your phone out and say “I’m recording this conversation for legal reasons.” In Florida, both parties must consent to the recording. But, if you announce that you are doing it and use VIDEO, then it falls under the video laws, not the voice recording laws. Go back in your memory and make sure you understand what your father was saying. Was he warning what might happen? Was he threatening to stop making payments? Make sure. | 0 | 5,138 | 19.5 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl2jvj | igl2qvd | 1,658,105,047 | 1,658,105,145 | 4 | 39 | I mean on what grounds? They aren't on the lease and you are. They don't own the house nor live with you. Your parents obviously have 0 understanding on law. Heck they might even have negative understanding considering they think in any way shape or form they have a say in YOUR lease. Just kick back, grab a beer, and don't worry about it. Just pay your rent and the actual landlord can't do anything either. | So, I am asking for clarification here. 1. Your father doesn’t live there, but helps you pay for things, correct? 2. You pay the landlord directly for YOUR share only, correct? 3. Your father and brother have NOT picked up your share to pay, but rather the landlord is letting you go into debt to him for the missing shares knowing your situation and letting you pay back pay to him once your disability payments start. Is that correct on all three of those counts? If so, there is nothing your father can do. If I am wrong on any or all of those counts, it doesn’t matter, there is still nothing your father can do. Well, let me change that. There is nothing your father can legally do. A lot of times, people ignorant of the laws will just go through somebody’s stuff outside and yell about eviction. If your father does this, call the cops immediately and file police reports. Don’t hesitate because of family or whatever. Nobody can do this. Eviction laws are pretty stout to not leave someone homeless without warning. So, look at the Florida Eviction laws summary on NOLO and give them a careful look through. The only person who can evict you is the landlord. But, even then, it isn’t just a “Imma scream eviction and yo ass is gone!” scenario. It’s a process of law. Make sure you understand your landlord and that he is giving you this time of grace. Try to do it in a text message or email so you have a written record. Don’t talk to your father about this again. For that matter, your brother or mother either. If any of them start, pull your phone out and say “I’m recording this conversation for legal reasons.” In Florida, both parties must consent to the recording. But, if you announce that you are doing it and use VIDEO, then it falls under the video laws, not the voice recording laws. Go back in your memory and make sure you understand what your father was saying. Was he warning what might happen? Was he threatening to stop making payments? Make sure. | 0 | 98 | 9.75 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl2qvd | igl1ct5 | 1,658,105,145 | 1,658,104,458 | 39 | 2 | So, I am asking for clarification here. 1. Your father doesn’t live there, but helps you pay for things, correct? 2. You pay the landlord directly for YOUR share only, correct? 3. Your father and brother have NOT picked up your share to pay, but rather the landlord is letting you go into debt to him for the missing shares knowing your situation and letting you pay back pay to him once your disability payments start. Is that correct on all three of those counts? If so, there is nothing your father can do. If I am wrong on any or all of those counts, it doesn’t matter, there is still nothing your father can do. Well, let me change that. There is nothing your father can legally do. A lot of times, people ignorant of the laws will just go through somebody’s stuff outside and yell about eviction. If your father does this, call the cops immediately and file police reports. Don’t hesitate because of family or whatever. Nobody can do this. Eviction laws are pretty stout to not leave someone homeless without warning. So, look at the Florida Eviction laws summary on NOLO and give them a careful look through. The only person who can evict you is the landlord. But, even then, it isn’t just a “Imma scream eviction and yo ass is gone!” scenario. It’s a process of law. Make sure you understand your landlord and that he is giving you this time of grace. Try to do it in a text message or email so you have a written record. Don’t talk to your father about this again. For that matter, your brother or mother either. If any of them start, pull your phone out and say “I’m recording this conversation for legal reasons.” In Florida, both parties must consent to the recording. But, if you announce that you are doing it and use VIDEO, then it falls under the video laws, not the voice recording laws. Go back in your memory and make sure you understand what your father was saying. Was he warning what might happen? Was he threatening to stop making payments? Make sure. | Realistically you have nothing to worry about as long as your landlord in writing has given you a extension of rent. Your parents don't own the property and thus can't evict anyone. They have no power in this and at most can just give baseless threats that can't lead to anything. Just make sure via written that the landlord is to not listen to anyone about your living situations. | 1 | 687 | 19.5 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl2s1b | igkf5wd | 1,658,105,161 | 1,658,094,102 | 30 | 22 | I work for a leasing company, only your landlord can evict you. Your parents could possibly call your landlord but from my pov and the standards my company has, we can only speak to legal tenants or occupants listed on lease about any issues, unless your parents have POA over you or your brother. Your parents are blowing smoke as long as your landlord already knows what’s up and is agreeing to wait on filing until your disability back pay gets in. Good luck! | Sounds like you and your brother can evict your parents if you would like to. | 1 | 11,059 | 1.363636 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl2s1b | igjzywn | 1,658,105,161 | 1,658,087,565 | 30 | 9 | I work for a leasing company, only your landlord can evict you. Your parents could possibly call your landlord but from my pov and the standards my company has, we can only speak to legal tenants or occupants listed on lease about any issues, unless your parents have POA over you or your brother. Your parents are blowing smoke as long as your landlord already knows what’s up and is agreeing to wait on filing until your disability back pay gets in. Good luck! | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | 1 | 17,596 | 3.333333 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl2s1b | igks7s2 | 1,658,105,161 | 1,658,100,007 | 30 | 2 | I work for a leasing company, only your landlord can evict you. Your parents could possibly call your landlord but from my pov and the standards my company has, we can only speak to legal tenants or occupants listed on lease about any issues, unless your parents have POA over you or your brother. Your parents are blowing smoke as long as your landlord already knows what’s up and is agreeing to wait on filing until your disability back pay gets in. Good luck! | They have no legal basis to evict you, but if they work with your brother to dump your stuff outside, have a back up plan. Would police where you are help you in a case like that? If they manhandle you out, that would be assualt. | 1 | 5,154 | 15 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl2s1b | igl2jvj | 1,658,105,161 | 1,658,105,047 | 30 | 4 | I work for a leasing company, only your landlord can evict you. Your parents could possibly call your landlord but from my pov and the standards my company has, we can only speak to legal tenants or occupants listed on lease about any issues, unless your parents have POA over you or your brother. Your parents are blowing smoke as long as your landlord already knows what’s up and is agreeing to wait on filing until your disability back pay gets in. Good luck! | I mean on what grounds? They aren't on the lease and you are. They don't own the house nor live with you. Your parents obviously have 0 understanding on law. Heck they might even have negative understanding considering they think in any way shape or form they have a say in YOUR lease. Just kick back, grab a beer, and don't worry about it. Just pay your rent and the actual landlord can't do anything either. | 1 | 114 | 7.5 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl1ct5 | igl2s1b | 1,658,104,458 | 1,658,105,161 | 2 | 30 | Realistically you have nothing to worry about as long as your landlord in writing has given you a extension of rent. Your parents don't own the property and thus can't evict anyone. They have no power in this and at most can just give baseless threats that can't lead to anything. Just make sure via written that the landlord is to not listen to anyone about your living situations. | I work for a leasing company, only your landlord can evict you. Your parents could possibly call your landlord but from my pov and the standards my company has, we can only speak to legal tenants or occupants listed on lease about any issues, unless your parents have POA over you or your brother. Your parents are blowing smoke as long as your landlord already knows what’s up and is agreeing to wait on filing until your disability back pay gets in. Good luck! | 0 | 703 | 15 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igkf5wd | igjzywn | 1,658,094,102 | 1,658,087,565 | 22 | 9 | Sounds like you and your brother can evict your parents if you would like to. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | 1 | 6,537 | 2.444444 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl6ak1 | igjzywn | 1,658,106,897 | 1,658,087,565 | 13 | 9 | So, your parents don't live in the same home that you and your brother have a lease agreement for, and you have your own job that you qualified for benefits at regarding an LOA for your MEDICALLY DOCUMENTED illness? Do your parents even pay any of the bills there? It doesn't sound like they do to me. It just sounds like they're trying to scare you by saying your landlord will evict you, which is inaccurate since your landlord already knows what's going on and is working with you. They have no legal footing here at all. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | 1 | 19,332 | 1.444444 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl6ak1 | igks7s2 | 1,658,106,897 | 1,658,100,007 | 13 | 2 | So, your parents don't live in the same home that you and your brother have a lease agreement for, and you have your own job that you qualified for benefits at regarding an LOA for your MEDICALLY DOCUMENTED illness? Do your parents even pay any of the bills there? It doesn't sound like they do to me. It just sounds like they're trying to scare you by saying your landlord will evict you, which is inaccurate since your landlord already knows what's going on and is working with you. They have no legal footing here at all. | They have no legal basis to evict you, but if they work with your brother to dump your stuff outside, have a back up plan. Would police where you are help you in a case like that? If they manhandle you out, that would be assualt. | 1 | 6,890 | 6.5 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl2jvj | igl6ak1 | 1,658,105,047 | 1,658,106,897 | 4 | 13 | I mean on what grounds? They aren't on the lease and you are. They don't own the house nor live with you. Your parents obviously have 0 understanding on law. Heck they might even have negative understanding considering they think in any way shape or form they have a say in YOUR lease. Just kick back, grab a beer, and don't worry about it. Just pay your rent and the actual landlord can't do anything either. | So, your parents don't live in the same home that you and your brother have a lease agreement for, and you have your own job that you qualified for benefits at regarding an LOA for your MEDICALLY DOCUMENTED illness? Do your parents even pay any of the bills there? It doesn't sound like they do to me. It just sounds like they're trying to scare you by saying your landlord will evict you, which is inaccurate since your landlord already knows what's going on and is working with you. They have no legal footing here at all. | 0 | 1,850 | 3.25 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl6ak1 | igl1ct5 | 1,658,106,897 | 1,658,104,458 | 13 | 2 | So, your parents don't live in the same home that you and your brother have a lease agreement for, and you have your own job that you qualified for benefits at regarding an LOA for your MEDICALLY DOCUMENTED illness? Do your parents even pay any of the bills there? It doesn't sound like they do to me. It just sounds like they're trying to scare you by saying your landlord will evict you, which is inaccurate since your landlord already knows what's going on and is working with you. They have no legal footing here at all. | Realistically you have nothing to worry about as long as your landlord in writing has given you a extension of rent. Your parents don't own the property and thus can't evict anyone. They have no power in this and at most can just give baseless threats that can't lead to anything. Just make sure via written that the landlord is to not listen to anyone about your living situations. | 1 | 2,439 | 6.5 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igmmmw3 | igks7s2 | 1,658,142,196 | 1,658,100,007 | 5 | 2 | Your parents can't evicted you. They are not the landlord and isnt on the lease so they don't have a say in the matter. >The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. Your landlord is aware of the situation (the illness) and is giving you time to pay the missing share of the rent money Contact your Landlord about what your parents trying to do and get evidence to show him if possible. Get a lawyer, just in case, your parents try to evicted you with out landlord approval | They have no legal basis to evict you, but if they work with your brother to dump your stuff outside, have a back up plan. Would police where you are help you in a case like that? If they manhandle you out, that would be assualt. | 1 | 42,189 | 2.5 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igl2jvj | igmmmw3 | 1,658,105,047 | 1,658,142,196 | 4 | 5 | I mean on what grounds? They aren't on the lease and you are. They don't own the house nor live with you. Your parents obviously have 0 understanding on law. Heck they might even have negative understanding considering they think in any way shape or form they have a say in YOUR lease. Just kick back, grab a beer, and don't worry about it. Just pay your rent and the actual landlord can't do anything either. | Your parents can't evicted you. They are not the landlord and isnt on the lease so they don't have a say in the matter. >The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. Your landlord is aware of the situation (the illness) and is giving you time to pay the missing share of the rent money Contact your Landlord about what your parents trying to do and get evidence to show him if possible. Get a lawyer, just in case, your parents try to evicted you with out landlord approval | 0 | 37,149 | 1.25 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | iglk732 | igmmmw3 | 1,658,113,934 | 1,658,142,196 | 4 | 5 | Honestly sounds like your parents are just trying to gain some form of control over you and trying to use a fear tactic they sound controlling like they are using the fact that they help some financially as a way to make you think they have control when in reality they do not I would attempt to try to become completely financially independent from them and going NC | Your parents can't evicted you. They are not the landlord and isnt on the lease so they don't have a say in the matter. >The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. Your landlord is aware of the situation (the illness) and is giving you time to pay the missing share of the rent money Contact your Landlord about what your parents trying to do and get evidence to show him if possible. Get a lawyer, just in case, your parents try to evicted you with out landlord approval | 0 | 28,262 | 1.25 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igmlv47 | igmmmw3 | 1,658,141,625 | 1,658,142,196 | 3 | 5 | Not a lawyer. If they aren't on the lease and they don't own the house, they can't evict you. Your landlord is the only person who can evict you. | Your parents can't evicted you. They are not the landlord and isnt on the lease so they don't have a say in the matter. >The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. Your landlord is aware of the situation (the illness) and is giving you time to pay the missing share of the rent money Contact your Landlord about what your parents trying to do and get evidence to show him if possible. Get a lawyer, just in case, your parents try to evicted you with out landlord approval | 0 | 571 | 1.666667 |
w1ft6f | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Parents planning to evict me out of house, their names aren't on the lease (Central Florida) Hi there, I'm a bit frazzled right now and need suggestions as to what to do. I room with my brother and our father helps us pay the rent and utilities. His name is not on the lease, neither is our mother. Recently, I had to go on a month long medical leave because of a chronic illness I have. This illness gets so bad I can't even get out of bed some days. Fortunately, I'm approved for benefits and am waiting for them to arrive (not sure when they'll be here). Unfortunately, it means I haven't been able to pay my share of the rent. The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. My parents are furious with me for taking this leave because they've never believed I've been sick. This afternoon, I found out from my father that he and my mother are planning on evicting me from the house because of the unpaid rent. So what options can I have to protect myself? I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can legally do to throw me out because they aren't on the lease but I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated. Please and thank you. | igmmmw3 | iglnz2k | 1,658,142,196 | 1,658,116,155 | 5 | 3 | Your parents can't evicted you. They are not the landlord and isnt on the lease so they don't have a say in the matter. >The Landlord is aware of the situation and has given me as much time as I need to pay the missing share of the rent. Your landlord is aware of the situation (the illness) and is giving you time to pay the missing share of the rent money Contact your Landlord about what your parents trying to do and get evidence to show him if possible. Get a lawyer, just in case, your parents try to evicted you with out landlord approval | As others have said, they can't legally do anything to you. But if your relationship is souring, it might be a good idea to start documenting your belongings and taking pictures of your room every time you leave. Just in case they start doing things that aren't legal. | 1 | 26,041 | 1.666667 |
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