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mz2cjc | 1,302 | I made a Tesla app for iOS Android Bestla which provides most of the features of all of the top Tesla apps but at a fraction of the price and with modern design such as data graphs over time Siri Assistant support widgets tiles scheduled actions and more I ve gotten some really positive feedback on the app in the month it s been out and I ve made sure to frequently update the app to support the most requested features such as adding Homelink support [this week](https: www.reddit.com r bestla comments mwxulf v120_is_out_with_homelink_support_close_windows ). [iOS app store](https: apps.apple.com us app bestla-tesla-companion id1551088174) [Android app store](https: play.google.com store apps details?id=com.appuccino.bestla) My goal here is for Bestla to be a companion to the main Tesla app providing as much functionality as possible that the main app doesn t support. And as the title says I m always going to keep it much more affordable (the main two Tesla apps that have a somewhat similar feature set are $45 or $10 **yr** \\- this is $10 one-time or $1 mon) and *I will continue to work on it to keep adding more features with 5 updates shipped this month already*. I made the app free to try for 7 days and any support it gets will let me work on Bestla more often by taking more time off from my job (software engineer at a search engine you may have heard of). **Some key features:** * View vehicle data over time such as battery degradation odometer and temperatures * Many ways to use actions (ex. lock the doors open trunk) without opening an app * \\[Android\\] Google Assistant support such as “Hey Google open the trunk” with custom phrases * \\[iOS\\] Siri support such as Siri open the trunk with custom phrases * \\[iOS\\] Shortcuts support w home screen widgets and automation ( lock the doors when I leave the house ) * App Shortcuts: long press on the home screen icon to perform actions or press and hold to drag actions to their own home screen icons * \\[Android\\] Quick Settings tiles for quick access next to other tiles such as WiFi and Bluetooth * \\[Android\\] Persistent notification with customizable actions * Schedule actions (ex. warm the car at 8am on weekdays or lock the doors in 5 minutes) * Homelink support * More in the full list on the app store **App privacy**: The app does **not** store any login information. You can log in either with your Tesla account or your Tesla account refresh token - the app will use the credentials one time to talk to the Tesla servers to get the token so that the app can communicate with the vehicle and the login information is thrown away. The token is then stored encrypted so the app can continue talking to the vehicle. If you re interested in keeping up to date with app updates or feature requests be sure to check out r Bestla! | I m a fan of one time payments in as much as I really try to avoid most subscription things so that s great. I haven t seen anyone ask but how does it affect battery? Reading about the (potential) phantom drain from these other apps always kinda put me off as well. | does this allow for exporting data? I love the added features it provides over TeslaMate but long-term my priority is having my data seeing trends etc. If Bestla s servers ever go down or the service is sunset I don t want to have to start over entirely with TeslaMate | 125 | 3 | 8,406 |
mz3bin | 22 | Thinking of getting a Model 3 as a business vehicle. Is there any real benefits downside to buying used? So I m currently looking to get a Model 3 as a business vehicle. There are some used ones around me but at the most they are only $5 000 - $8 000 less than just getting one directly from Tesla. Is there any downsides to buying used like warranty features etc? I m thinking I could use the money saved to setup my charging station in my garage but at the same time I m the type of person that buys a car new and drives it till the weels fall off (still daily driving a 2006 Scion xB with 290k miles!). If I m going to loose any perks from being a 2nd owner like warranty life then the $5 000 I ll save isn t really worth it to me. | I had this debate a mere 8 months ago. I ultimately ended up with a used Model 3. It saved me over 10 grand but had to give up a few things but gained some as well. I originally was going to buy brand new. Wanted a Grey LR Model 3. I had my order all ready to go but I after adding FSD the price was a little jolting. So I stopped and just starting messing around on used car section. Ended up spending about 6 hours deep diving on used car websites and landed on 2018 LR Model 3 with only 5k miles on it. Said it had EAP. But it was in White. What got me was the price at the time was 13k less than if I ordered a new. I had to give up the new center console and steering wheel(turns out I ll miss the heating upgrade). And the color. Wasn t overly excited about the white but when I finally first saw it I changed my mind quickly. I ended up with EAP and now only have to pay 5k for FSD(as of now). Cost me about 1000 dollars to get to shipped to me when it was all said and done. It came with the Tesla factory warranty still. And Tesla even gave me 2 months free Premium internet when I transfered the car to me. Car was like brand new inside and out. So I would say if you do your research and really go looking you can find something Used but if you don t want to go through the hassle just buy new. There is always a risk with a used car and no one to go back to if you don t like it. Also to note my state didn t have any tax breaks they actually taxed me more for having an alternative fuel vehicle so that wasn t a consideration for me. | The cars constantly get better. It really depends on what year you are looking at. You might also consider getting a Model X since it qualifies for the Section 179 depreciation for business use. That would let you write off the full value in one year if you have enough business earnings and make it nearly the same as a Model 3. I m not a tax person. | 33 | 2 | 8,407 |
mz7fco | 180 | Tesla Q1 21 Earnings Call - Event Megathread [Livestream Webcast](https: livestream.tesla.com ) **Webcast Start Time: 2:30 PM PDT 5:30 PM EDT 9:30 PM (2100) UTC** [Q1 21 Earnings Report Reddit Post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments mz6qcd tesla_2021_q1_earnings_report ) [Q1 21 Earnings Call Bingo!](https: www.reddit.com r teslainvestorsclub comments myx3ab q121_earnings_call_bingo ) [Q1 21 Update Letter PDF](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla a1ab64e7-7c18-421c-a898-9b60397b017b S1dbei4 WEB TSLA-Q1-2021-Update) [Tesla Investor Relations Page](https: ir.tesla.com ) **Please avoid commentary that does not benefit discussion.** See r TeslaInvestorsClub for more in depth investor discussion. See today s Daily Discussion thread [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments myu6m0 daily_discussion_question_and_answer_experiences ). | What Elon is talking about with FSD right now is not inspiring much confidence in achieving their goals short term. Yeah it s a very hard problem...Guess you shouldn t have been promising it around the corner for 5 years. Kind of sounds like he finally realized how hard it s going to be to actually get to where he said it would be. And that the community is getting tired and aware of having a carrot dangled in front of the cart moving things along year by year oh now we re doing a rewrite the regulators blah blah. The software was clearly just not ready to be what it was claimed to be 5 years ago. [Does the current build look like it was just waiting for regulators lol](https: pbs.twimg.com media EivpE4zXgAEiTtS?format=jpg& name=medium) | The case of the Monday s woman is gone! | 69 | 3 | 8,408 |
mz7fco | 180 | Tesla Q1 21 Earnings Call - Event Megathread [Livestream Webcast](https: livestream.tesla.com ) **Webcast Start Time: 2:30 PM PDT 5:30 PM EDT 9:30 PM (2100) UTC** [Q1 21 Earnings Report Reddit Post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments mz6qcd tesla_2021_q1_earnings_report ) [Q1 21 Earnings Call Bingo!](https: www.reddit.com r teslainvestorsclub comments myx3ab q121_earnings_call_bingo ) [Q1 21 Update Letter PDF](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla a1ab64e7-7c18-421c-a898-9b60397b017b S1dbei4 WEB TSLA-Q1-2021-Update) [Tesla Investor Relations Page](https: ir.tesla.com ) **Please avoid commentary that does not benefit discussion.** See r TeslaInvestorsClub for more in depth investor discussion. See today s Daily Discussion thread [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments myu6m0 daily_discussion_question_and_answer_experiences ). | What Elon is talking about with FSD right now is not inspiring much confidence in achieving their goals short term. Yeah it s a very hard problem...Guess you shouldn t have been promising it around the corner for 5 years. Kind of sounds like he finally realized how hard it s going to be to actually get to where he said it would be. And that the community is getting tired and aware of having a carrot dangled in front of the cart moving things along year by year oh now we re doing a rewrite the regulators blah blah. The software was clearly just not ready to be what it was claimed to be 5 years ago. [Does the current build look like it was just waiting for regulators lol](https: pbs.twimg.com media EivpE4zXgAEiTtS?format=jpg& name=medium) | Did they sell BTC ? | 69 | 5 | 8,409 |
mz7fco | 180 | Tesla Q1 21 Earnings Call - Event Megathread [Livestream Webcast](https: livestream.tesla.com ) **Webcast Start Time: 2:30 PM PDT 5:30 PM EDT 9:30 PM (2100) UTC** [Q1 21 Earnings Report Reddit Post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments mz6qcd tesla_2021_q1_earnings_report ) [Q1 21 Earnings Call Bingo!](https: www.reddit.com r teslainvestorsclub comments myx3ab q121_earnings_call_bingo ) [Q1 21 Update Letter PDF](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla a1ab64e7-7c18-421c-a898-9b60397b017b S1dbei4 WEB TSLA-Q1-2021-Update) [Tesla Investor Relations Page](https: ir.tesla.com ) **Please avoid commentary that does not benefit discussion.** See r TeslaInvestorsClub for more in depth investor discussion. See today s Daily Discussion thread [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments myu6m0 daily_discussion_question_and_answer_experiences ). | What Elon is talking about with FSD right now is not inspiring much confidence in achieving their goals short term. Yeah it s a very hard problem...Guess you shouldn t have been promising it around the corner for 5 years. Kind of sounds like he finally realized how hard it s going to be to actually get to where he said it would be. And that the community is getting tired and aware of having a carrot dangled in front of the cart moving things along year by year oh now we re doing a rewrite the regulators blah blah. The software was clearly just not ready to be what it was claimed to be 5 years ago. [Does the current build look like it was just waiting for regulators lol](https: pbs.twimg.com media EivpE4zXgAEiTtS?format=jpg& name=medium) | Let s get this 🍞 | 69 | 7 | 8,410 |
mzryva | 81 | How long can a Tesla sit without being used? I have a dilemma on my hands. I ve accepted a new job offer that will take me away from home for months on end. The new company I ll be running is headquartered in a different city but I am not relocating. My wifes job is 100% remote so she will be traveling with me. I suspect we will come home for a weekend once every 4 to 8 weeks. We purchased a Model S in December. Will the battery life be negatively impacted if the car sits at 75% charge for that length of time? Is there something we can while we are away to care for the vehicle? I got a corporate apartment in the new city but they don t have a charging station or convenient outlets so I m not interested in taking the vehicle with us. Selling is an option if allowing it to sit in this state for 6-8 months is I ll advised. Thank you in advance for the advice! | Leave it plugged in and set the charge limit to 50%. Battery will be fine. Alternatively sell it. | Will it be plugged in in a garage during this time too? My model 3 has spent most of it s time at 50% during the pandemic. Should see no I ll effects plugged in so it can recharge the battery as there will always be some drain a percent every few days due to keeping the 12v alive. | 85 | 7 | 8,411 |
mzryva | 81 | How long can a Tesla sit without being used? I have a dilemma on my hands. I ve accepted a new job offer that will take me away from home for months on end. The new company I ll be running is headquartered in a different city but I am not relocating. My wifes job is 100% remote so she will be traveling with me. I suspect we will come home for a weekend once every 4 to 8 weeks. We purchased a Model S in December. Will the battery life be negatively impacted if the car sits at 75% charge for that length of time? Is there something we can while we are away to care for the vehicle? I got a corporate apartment in the new city but they don t have a charging station or convenient outlets so I m not interested in taking the vehicle with us. Selling is an option if allowing it to sit in this state for 6-8 months is I ll advised. Thank you in advance for the advice! | Leave it plugged in and set the charge limit to 50%. Battery will be fine. Alternatively sell it. | Best storage % is about 50% but 75% should be fine too. Just dial this is plug it in and all good. | 85 | 11 | 8,412 |
mzryva | 81 | How long can a Tesla sit without being used? I have a dilemma on my hands. I ve accepted a new job offer that will take me away from home for months on end. The new company I ll be running is headquartered in a different city but I am not relocating. My wifes job is 100% remote so she will be traveling with me. I suspect we will come home for a weekend once every 4 to 8 weeks. We purchased a Model S in December. Will the battery life be negatively impacted if the car sits at 75% charge for that length of time? Is there something we can while we are away to care for the vehicle? I got a corporate apartment in the new city but they don t have a charging station or convenient outlets so I m not interested in taking the vehicle with us. Selling is an option if allowing it to sit in this state for 6-8 months is I ll advised. Thank you in advance for the advice! | Plug it in set charge limit to 50% and put it on tire storage ramps. VaygWay Car Tire Saver Ramps – Tire Ramps for Storage – Flat Tire Prevention Flat Spot- Tire Cradle Vehicle Tire Ramp https: www.amazon.com dp B082J3R3G2 ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_DRQK21GNAV4QZG2V78S5?_encoding=UTF8& psc=1 | Whenever you get home drive it fifty miles or so just to keep all the moving parts moving warm up the fluids and get them circulating etc. You need to do this more with a gasoline car but I expect there are bits of a Tesla that will eventually gum up if you never drive it far enough for those parts to reach operating temperature. | 61 | 2 | 8,413 |
mztocw | 35 | How do Tesla s do over the long-term? Hello all I am wondering if some of you can share your experiences with your Tesla s that you ve owned for few years now. Have there been any major issues with the car? Has battery reliability significantly decreased? I am helping my sister with her search for a new car. She ll be traveling at least 20k miles a year so we are looking for something reliable for her. She s looking specifically at the Model 3 long range and the Model Y Thanks | [Detailed 100 000 mile experience with my Model 3.](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments mqrbif just_passed_100000_miles_in_my_model_3 ) All in all very few issues. Extremely happy with the car. | Good. If you get past the initial Tesla build quality problems electric cars are simpler than ICE so they are generally more reliable and require less maintenance. | 38 | 4 | 8,414 |
mztocw | 35 | How do Tesla s do over the long-term? Hello all I am wondering if some of you can share your experiences with your Tesla s that you ve owned for few years now. Have there been any major issues with the car? Has battery reliability significantly decreased? I am helping my sister with her search for a new car. She ll be traveling at least 20k miles a year so we are looking for something reliable for her. She s looking specifically at the Model 3 long range and the Model Y Thanks | [Detailed 100 000 mile experience with my Model 3.](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments mqrbif just_passed_100000_miles_in_my_model_3 ) All in all very few issues. Extremely happy with the car. | Early 2018 Model 3 so far it s still like new. | 38 | 8 | 8,415 |
mztocw | 35 | How do Tesla s do over the long-term? Hello all I am wondering if some of you can share your experiences with your Tesla s that you ve owned for few years now. Have there been any major issues with the car? Has battery reliability significantly decreased? I am helping my sister with her search for a new car. She ll be traveling at least 20k miles a year so we are looking for something reliable for her. She s looking specifically at the Model 3 long range and the Model Y Thanks | [Detailed 100 000 mile experience with my Model 3.](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments mqrbif just_passed_100000_miles_in_my_model_3 ) All in all very few issues. Extremely happy with the car. | Had 2018 MS and had to replace front lights several times due to LED strip degradation replaced door handles which stopped presenting and once the buttons on steering wheel. Got myself LR MS last September and had issues with head lamps (recalibrated) door windows not sliding down after door open and weird clicking noises in slow speeds coming front axles which are normal (got to drive P100D and they were there as well). Don t get me wrong I love the car no battery issues or anything major fortunately but I would not say it is by far the most reliable and service free car I ever owned. However not having to change oil fill up tank etc. still feels great :-) | 38 | 10 | 8,416 |
mzub2b | 92 | Model X - Timelines pushed to October November 2021 Booked a new Model X (San Jose CA) somewhere in January and the timeline was April - May and it moved to June Beginning July. Tesla representative called today and mentioned timeline for Model X has been pushed to October November 2021. This is due to chip shortages from Taiwan. What are my options now? 1. Should I wait till June and chance that timelines get changed to earlier time line ? 2. Should I change the booking to Model Y (though I don t like the front shape design) 3. Maybe be cancel and move to BMW for this time and plan a Tesla better next time around. I will miss the spaciousness of Tesla though :( BMW Audi back seat are cramped and don t fold flat :( Any suggestions here would be great. | I would just wait. The Y will be too small if you were expecting an X size. The BMW and Audi will both have better interior luxury but after you have driven a Tesla the responsiveness and acceleration of BMW and Audi SUVs is just terrible. | I m in the same boat as you. my estimated delivery says June but that will probably not happen. My current ICE lease expires in July and I am going on a Trip to Florida in the middle June... I was really hoping to have it by then. I really don t want to buy a used MX because I really wanted the new refresh and the new battery tech. We are going to go test drive a Model Y 7 seater this weekend to see if that would work for us but I already feel myself being disappointed by the difference in space. Anyway unfortunately I don t have a suggestion for you as I am having the same conundrum. I will most likely go with a Y for a year or 2.... Or stick with an ICE car perhaps buy off my leased car. | 75 | 2 | 8,417 |
mzub2b | 92 | Model X - Timelines pushed to October November 2021 Booked a new Model X (San Jose CA) somewhere in January and the timeline was April - May and it moved to June Beginning July. Tesla representative called today and mentioned timeline for Model X has been pushed to October November 2021. This is due to chip shortages from Taiwan. What are my options now? 1. Should I wait till June and chance that timelines get changed to earlier time line ? 2. Should I change the booking to Model Y (though I don t like the front shape design) 3. Maybe be cancel and move to BMW for this time and plan a Tesla better next time around. I will miss the spaciousness of Tesla though :( BMW Audi back seat are cramped and don t fold flat :( Any suggestions here would be great. | I would just wait. The Y will be too small if you were expecting an X size. The BMW and Audi will both have better interior luxury but after you have driven a Tesla the responsiveness and acceleration of BMW and Audi SUVs is just terrible. | Used model X? | 75 | 9 | 8,418 |
mzub2b | 92 | Model X - Timelines pushed to October November 2021 Booked a new Model X (San Jose CA) somewhere in January and the timeline was April - May and it moved to June Beginning July. Tesla representative called today and mentioned timeline for Model X has been pushed to October November 2021. This is due to chip shortages from Taiwan. What are my options now? 1. Should I wait till June and chance that timelines get changed to earlier time line ? 2. Should I change the booking to Model Y (though I don t like the front shape design) 3. Maybe be cancel and move to BMW for this time and plan a Tesla better next time around. I will miss the spaciousness of Tesla though :( BMW Audi back seat are cramped and don t fold flat :( Any suggestions here would be great. | I m cancelling my order. I ve looked at Tesla Audi and Porsche the only new models being delivered without delays at the moment are Taycans. The Cross Turismo checks all my boxes and Porsche is not jacking me around. | I m in the same boat as you. my estimated delivery says June but that will probably not happen. My current ICE lease expires in July and I am going on a Trip to Florida in the middle June... I was really hoping to have it by then. I really don t want to buy a used MX because I really wanted the new refresh and the new battery tech. We are going to go test drive a Model Y 7 seater this weekend to see if that would work for us but I already feel myself being disappointed by the difference in space. Anyway unfortunately I don t have a suggestion for you as I am having the same conundrum. I will most likely go with a Y for a year or 2.... Or stick with an ICE car perhaps buy off my leased car. | 34 | 2 | 8,419 |
n0ol4k | 80 | Anyone notice how cruddy youtube and the other video apps been lately? Usually enjoy watching youtube netflix on my model 3 but the performance has been very choppy with video audio sync issues. Yes I have tried resetting the car. How has it been for you guys? Please Telsa no more games until you can have the UI be smooth again like it was before.... | Hoping V11 will improve performance of the GUI. Yes the Intel Atom processor is not very powerful but Tesla can do better to profile and optimize the software to improve performance here. I think Tesla has been blue balling us with updates as once they make a decision to rewrite a codebase they wholesale commit to it and neglect improvements to the existing codebase until they are “done” with the rewrite. This is why the Holiday 2020 (“🔥🔥”) update UI inconsistencies and audio glitches still aren t fixed and why non-FSD Autopilot is still not great. Based on the number of regressions and bugs we repeatedly see it s obvious to me the software teams lack maturity in their development processes and they are often wholesale chasing the shiny. The teams are (hopefully) growing fast and things are moving fast so this isn t completely unexpected. I do wish they improved their rigor and software development processes though. Regressions like we often see are really inexcusable write some tests once in a while guys! Just gotta be patient. | Yeah my Netflix has started having audio sync issues- 2021 MY | 47 | 17 | 8,420 |
n15pyw | 95 | Supercharging credit not being applied by Tesla Hello all I bought my Tesla X in October of 2018. At that time I was to receive an ANNUAL 400 kWh supercharging credit. For 2 years I received the supercharging but this year it stopped. I contacted Tesla and waited many months for them to reply. Finally they stated that I received the 400 kWh and I subsequently used the credits. I explained to them that this was an annual award but I have not had a reply. I have documentation from my original sales person as well as from the website that this was to be an annual award. This was on Tesla s site: Please note that certain Model S and X sold before November 2 2018 receive 400 kWh (\\~1 000 miles) of Supercharger credits annually. For usage above the complimentary credits provided a small fee applies. It is so frustrating not being able to talk to someone personally. The online chat is pretty worthless also as they they just forward my complaint. The Tesla service center is equally unproductive. Any suggestions? | I hate that Tesla is the best because their company really sucks. | It took me a few tries to get them to give me referral credits. Just keep at it and someone will eventually realize the error. | 80 | 8 | 8,421 |
n15pyw | 95 | Supercharging credit not being applied by Tesla Hello all I bought my Tesla X in October of 2018. At that time I was to receive an ANNUAL 400 kWh supercharging credit. For 2 years I received the supercharging but this year it stopped. I contacted Tesla and waited many months for them to reply. Finally they stated that I received the 400 kWh and I subsequently used the credits. I explained to them that this was an annual award but I have not had a reply. I have documentation from my original sales person as well as from the website that this was to be an annual award. This was on Tesla s site: Please note that certain Model S and X sold before November 2 2018 receive 400 kWh (\\~1 000 miles) of Supercharger credits annually. For usage above the complimentary credits provided a small fee applies. It is so frustrating not being able to talk to someone personally. The online chat is pretty worthless also as they they just forward my complaint. The Tesla service center is equally unproductive. Any suggestions? | The intern that used to do that data entry probably left... | Honestly sometimes the easiest thing to do is just state If you can t help me resolve this issue I need the name and address of who to serve for a small claims court summons Because they re probably going to have to ask somebody more important for that info and that person will probably resolve the issue real quick. | 32 | 2 | 8,422 |
n15pyw | 95 | Supercharging credit not being applied by Tesla Hello all I bought my Tesla X in October of 2018. At that time I was to receive an ANNUAL 400 kWh supercharging credit. For 2 years I received the supercharging but this year it stopped. I contacted Tesla and waited many months for them to reply. Finally they stated that I received the 400 kWh and I subsequently used the credits. I explained to them that this was an annual award but I have not had a reply. I have documentation from my original sales person as well as from the website that this was to be an annual award. This was on Tesla s site: Please note that certain Model S and X sold before November 2 2018 receive 400 kWh (\\~1 000 miles) of Supercharger credits annually. For usage above the complimentary credits provided a small fee applies. It is so frustrating not being able to talk to someone personally. The online chat is pretty worthless also as they they just forward my complaint. The Tesla service center is equally unproductive. Any suggestions? | The intern that used to do that data entry probably left... | Tweet about it? To anyone that will listen. Bad PR is a big motivator for these companies. If that doesn t work.. go to the dealer and make a scene. I m not much for that tactic but if all else fails driving business away is a good way to get attention | 32 | 3 | 8,423 |
n268e0 | 39 | Could a Model Y make driving suck less for someone who detests driving? I tried finding a similar post to see if that could answer my question but didn t have any luck. My wife has a job that requires a lot of driving. Her company provided a car for her but it s pretty basic. Nothing like automatic cruise control or any of that. She loves her job but hates having to drive anywhere from 20 minutes (to the closer places) and 1hr10m to the father places. She s worried about her safety. She s admittedly not a great driver. She s also worried about potentially falling asleep on the road at 6am on the long boring drives and also just doesn t enjoy driving in general. I m considering proposing we sell my car and buy a Tesla that she can use (she drives to work I WFH). Then I could just use her basic car while she uses the Tesla to get to and from work. I just wanted to clear a few things before pulling the trigger on this conversation. I know that self-driving doesn t necessarily mean you can just read your kindle while your Tesla cruises down the road. What I m really wondering is if current Tesla drivers with this feature could let me know if they feel: * More safe in their Tesla as opposed to their other cars (modern cars with modern safety features)? * That driving was more enjoyable? * For anyone who didn t like driving before can you share your experience moving to a Tesla (good or bad)? Thanks! | Yes I don t love driving. I grin ear to ear every time I sit in my tesla. | Stat wise Tesla s are some of the safest cars on the road. They have lots of assistance and guidance features which can help if she s not the best driver or make her driving experience better. | 65 | 16 | 8,424 |
n268e0 | 39 | Could a Model Y make driving suck less for someone who detests driving? I tried finding a similar post to see if that could answer my question but didn t have any luck. My wife has a job that requires a lot of driving. Her company provided a car for her but it s pretty basic. Nothing like automatic cruise control or any of that. She loves her job but hates having to drive anywhere from 20 minutes (to the closer places) and 1hr10m to the father places. She s worried about her safety. She s admittedly not a great driver. She s also worried about potentially falling asleep on the road at 6am on the long boring drives and also just doesn t enjoy driving in general. I m considering proposing we sell my car and buy a Tesla that she can use (she drives to work I WFH). Then I could just use her basic car while she uses the Tesla to get to and from work. I just wanted to clear a few things before pulling the trigger on this conversation. I know that self-driving doesn t necessarily mean you can just read your kindle while your Tesla cruises down the road. What I m really wondering is if current Tesla drivers with this feature could let me know if they feel: * More safe in their Tesla as opposed to their other cars (modern cars with modern safety features)? * That driving was more enjoyable? * For anyone who didn t like driving before can you share your experience moving to a Tesla (good or bad)? Thanks! | Yes in my experience AP makes long drives incredibly less stressful and more relaxing. You re not making 1+ hour of micro-corrections. I drive 1hr 30mins to work (round-trip) and use AP for everything but the first highway mile and the last. | I don t know your finances but I would consider the SR+ as it s the most affordable one and comes with autopilot which alone is fantastic. FSD isn t there yet but I enjoy watching the progress. However autopilot alone is amazing on drives and really reduces my road rage and highway anxiety. I can t imagine owning another vehicle. I have had mine for two years and it keeps getting better with the exception of range which has improved 10% since I got mine. I ve driven over 1800 miles in a week with it. Supercharging is prevalent in North America and should allow travel to most places. Overall it s the best thing I ve ever owned. | 54 | 5 | 8,425 |
n268e0 | 39 | Could a Model Y make driving suck less for someone who detests driving? I tried finding a similar post to see if that could answer my question but didn t have any luck. My wife has a job that requires a lot of driving. Her company provided a car for her but it s pretty basic. Nothing like automatic cruise control or any of that. She loves her job but hates having to drive anywhere from 20 minutes (to the closer places) and 1hr10m to the father places. She s worried about her safety. She s admittedly not a great driver. She s also worried about potentially falling asleep on the road at 6am on the long boring drives and also just doesn t enjoy driving in general. I m considering proposing we sell my car and buy a Tesla that she can use (she drives to work I WFH). Then I could just use her basic car while she uses the Tesla to get to and from work. I just wanted to clear a few things before pulling the trigger on this conversation. I know that self-driving doesn t necessarily mean you can just read your kindle while your Tesla cruises down the road. What I m really wondering is if current Tesla drivers with this feature could let me know if they feel: * More safe in their Tesla as opposed to their other cars (modern cars with modern safety features)? * That driving was more enjoyable? * For anyone who didn t like driving before can you share your experience moving to a Tesla (good or bad)? Thanks! | Yes in my experience AP makes long drives incredibly less stressful and more relaxing. You re not making 1+ hour of micro-corrections. I drive 1hr 30mins to work (round-trip) and use AP for everything but the first highway mile and the last. | Stat wise Tesla s are some of the safest cars on the road. They have lots of assistance and guidance features which can help if she s not the best driver or make her driving experience better. | 54 | 16 | 8,426 |
n2jxw0 | 25 | FSD after delivery Like many if you I am patiently waiting for the new Model S. I test drove the first Model S in Bellingham back in 2012 and I knew I wanted a Tesla then. Now nearly 10 years later I m finally able to afford one. In Canada the FSD upgrade is $10 000CAD at the time of purchase. But I m wondering what the cost will be after delivery. Is it the same or will it be more expensive? Most likely I would prefer the subscription model but just curious what others have seen. | Oh and one more thing: if you do decide to pay for it do so because you think the functionality *as it currently stands* is worth $10 000. If that s really how you feel after doing the research test driving all the features in person and so on then go for it. But don t let anyone convince you that you re making a ground-floor once-in-a-lifetime investment in robotaxis and income while you sleep . I mean I thought I was being realistic by paying for FSD *just* to beta test a moonshot even if all that meant was a few late-night thrill rides on empty roads in software that s hilariously buggy but fascinating to experience first-hand. That s *all* I was expecting and even that feels like a mistake at this point. My bottom line suggestion: treat it as unambiguously worth $10 000 *this second* or a red flag visible from space. One or the other no excuses. | Unless the subscription is more than 250 a month it is really worth getting the subscription. Only after 40 months of ownership are you paying more (that assumes you got a 0% loan on the 10k) | 40 | 4 | 8,427 |
n2jxw0 | 25 | FSD after delivery Like many if you I am patiently waiting for the new Model S. I test drove the first Model S in Bellingham back in 2012 and I knew I wanted a Tesla then. Now nearly 10 years later I m finally able to afford one. In Canada the FSD upgrade is $10 000CAD at the time of purchase. But I m wondering what the cost will be after delivery. Is it the same or will it be more expensive? Most likely I would prefer the subscription model but just curious what others have seen. | Oh and one more thing: if you do decide to pay for it do so because you think the functionality *as it currently stands* is worth $10 000. If that s really how you feel after doing the research test driving all the features in person and so on then go for it. But don t let anyone convince you that you re making a ground-floor once-in-a-lifetime investment in robotaxis and income while you sleep . I mean I thought I was being realistic by paying for FSD *just* to beta test a moonshot even if all that meant was a few late-night thrill rides on empty roads in software that s hilariously buggy but fascinating to experience first-hand. That s *all* I was expecting and even that feels like a mistake at this point. My bottom line suggestion: treat it as unambiguously worth $10 000 *this second* or a red flag visible from space. One or the other no excuses. | Definitely would NOT buy FSD for 10k with current functionality. I d wait for subscription. Especially since lane keeping on Highway is about 90% of what I want anyway. And I wish the subscription was based on per mile use. | 40 | 5 | 8,428 |
n2m3u6 | 341 | A few Tesla tips passed my way anonymously... Take these with a grain of salt. Many things change often but just putting this out there so there s something fun to discuss on the possibilities. Some tips turn out to be accurate some not. These few things that were sent my way is public info and can apparently be found online. - Refreshed Model S Long Range can hit near 500 miles of range (going the speed limit + not using HVAC heavily) - Tesla is interested in custom design + PPF from the factory - This week we may see a small FSD BETA V9 release. We may get some video + pics from current social media people. Some people already have FSD BETA 9 and Software V11 but aren t allowed to talk about it. FSD BETA is already being used by employees in other countries outside the US. - There is an air quality sensor in the new S X and you can get a read out of the air quality in the vehicle. Along with internal and external temperatures. | > not using hvac heavily *laughs in miami* | Is that 500 miles based on EPA or is that 500 miles of range based on the same way the Taycan beats it s EPA range estimates | 140 | 6 | 8,429 |
n2m3u6 | 341 | A few Tesla tips passed my way anonymously... Take these with a grain of salt. Many things change often but just putting this out there so there s something fun to discuss on the possibilities. Some tips turn out to be accurate some not. These few things that were sent my way is public info and can apparently be found online. - Refreshed Model S Long Range can hit near 500 miles of range (going the speed limit + not using HVAC heavily) - Tesla is interested in custom design + PPF from the factory - This week we may see a small FSD BETA V9 release. We may get some video + pics from current social media people. Some people already have FSD BETA 9 and Software V11 but aren t allowed to talk about it. FSD BETA is already being used by employees in other countries outside the US. - There is an air quality sensor in the new S X and you can get a read out of the air quality in the vehicle. Along with internal and external temperatures. | > not using hvac heavily *laughs in miami* | you can see an air quality indicator on the official images on tesla.com models. its at the top of the screen in the rotating images that show the climate screen active. so that one is pretty much confirmed | 140 | 11 | 8,430 |
n2m3u6 | 341 | A few Tesla tips passed my way anonymously... Take these with a grain of salt. Many things change often but just putting this out there so there s something fun to discuss on the possibilities. Some tips turn out to be accurate some not. These few things that were sent my way is public info and can apparently be found online. - Refreshed Model S Long Range can hit near 500 miles of range (going the speed limit + not using HVAC heavily) - Tesla is interested in custom design + PPF from the factory - This week we may see a small FSD BETA V9 release. We may get some video + pics from current social media people. Some people already have FSD BETA 9 and Software V11 but aren t allowed to talk about it. FSD BETA is already being used by employees in other countries outside the US. - There is an air quality sensor in the new S X and you can get a read out of the air quality in the vehicle. Along with internal and external temperatures. | > not using hvac heavily *laughs in miami* | Glad to see FSD beta being tested in other countries hopefully major European ones too | 140 | 21 | 8,431 |
n3dhsr | 146 | All Model X Orders Delayed Oct-Nov Elon said in the earnings call that model S X orders will ship “very soon”. I just received update that my feb order was delayed to October-November. At this point I m more amused and find it funny than disappointing. Imagine the most valued auto manufacturer can t ship their flagship product for almost a whole year. Now im considering canceling my order and trying my luck with Xpeng or Lucid Motors. Has anyone else received any updates on their S X order? | It s actually hilarious to think you ll get a Lucid Motor vehicle before that time even. | > Elon said in the earnings call that model S X orders will ship “very soon” At what timestamp did he say that please? | 259 | 7 | 8,432 |
n3dhsr | 146 | All Model X Orders Delayed Oct-Nov Elon said in the earnings call that model S X orders will ship “very soon”. I just received update that my feb order was delayed to October-November. At this point I m more amused and find it funny than disappointing. Imagine the most valued auto manufacturer can t ship their flagship product for almost a whole year. Now im considering canceling my order and trying my luck with Xpeng or Lucid Motors. Has anyone else received any updates on their S X order? | It s actually hilarious to think you ll get a Lucid Motor vehicle before that time even. | Good things comes to those who wait. | 259 | 15 | 8,433 |
n3dhsr | 146 | All Model X Orders Delayed Oct-Nov Elon said in the earnings call that model S X orders will ship “very soon”. I just received update that my feb order was delayed to October-November. At this point I m more amused and find it funny than disappointing. Imagine the most valued auto manufacturer can t ship their flagship product for almost a whole year. Now im considering canceling my order and trying my luck with Xpeng or Lucid Motors. Has anyone else received any updates on their S X order? | It s actually hilarious to think you ll get a Lucid Motor vehicle before that time even. | I checked online for my S and it still says July ordered early February | 259 | 33 | 8,434 |
n3g27s | 23 | How efficient is the navigation system at suggesting charging station stops times? I am researching buying a Tesla and the number one concern is usually making sure we can get where we want to go w o too much battery anxiety. I used Tesla s website [route planner](https: www.tesla.com trips) to test some trips. I noticed that when entering some [example destinations](https: www.tesla.com trips# ?v=MY_2020_LongRange& o=Fairview%20Heights %20IL %20USA_Fairview%20Heights%20Caseyville%20Township%20St%20Clair%[email protected] -89.990382& s=Mt%20Carmel %20IL%2062863 %20USA_Mt%20Carmel%20Mt%20Carmel%20Wabash%[email protected] -87.7614174+Evansville %20IN %20USA_Evansville%20Center%20Township%20Vanderburgh%[email protected] -87.5710898+Mt%20Carmel %20IL%2062863 %20USA_Mt%20Carmel%20Mt%20Carmel%20Wabash%[email protected] -87.7614174& d=Fairview%20Heights %20IL %20USA_Fairview%20Heights%20Caseyville%20Township%20St%20Clair%[email protected] -89.990382) for a round-trip drive the planner had us keep going back to a charging station (in Mt. Vernon IL) for small top-offs as if it only considered one leg of the journey instead of the entire plan. As you can see this route has a travel time of ~ 12h were it [should take](https: www.google.com maps dir Fairview+Heights +IL Mt+Carmel +IL+62863 Evansville +IN Mt+Carmel +IL Fairview+Heights +IL @38.3821402 -89.2509878 9.5z data=!4m32!4m31!1m5!1m1!1s0x87d8aa7135c34ad3:0xcb8d12555952927a!2m2!1d-89.990382!2d38.5889386!1m5!1m1!1s0x8871ee80bbfc2d03:0x77e70fe073720d4f!2m2!1d-87.7614174!2d38.4108801!1m5!1m1!1s0x8871d5133156772d:0xb52e4939112ac99d!2m2!1d-87.5710898!2d37.9715592!1m5!1m1!1s0x8871ee80bbfc2d03:0x77e70fe073720d4f!2m2!1d-87.7614174!2d38.4108801!1m5!1m1!1s0x87d8aa7135c34ad3:0xcb8d12555952927a!2m2!1d-89.990382!2d38.5889386!3e0) ~6. Obviously we could just dedicate a few brain cells to figure it out ourselves but I m just wondering if this is how it currently works in-car. | Don t use the Tesla website planner. Use https: www.abetterrouteplanner.com it is significantly more accurate is better at minimizing charging time and lets you set a ton of different parameters to evaluate the impact of things like weather road conditions extra weight and etc. The in-car planner is better than the one on the Tesla website but it can both under- and overestimate efficiency quite a bit (I ve seen a 20%+ difference many times) and tends to suggest longer but less frequent charging stops which is not always the best approach. After two years of road trips in my 3 I use the in-car planner to get the battery preconditioned but rely on ABRP for pre-planning my preferred and backup options then pick the next charger as I go along. | It s very accurate yet conservative. You can also use a better route planner website or app. | 63 | 2 | 8,435 |
n3k9u8 | 87 | What ever happened to AP hugging the inside of a bend? There was a while back in late 2019 or early 2020 I think where AP would hug the inside lane line when rounding a bend. I m in the middle of a 2 400 mi road trip and almost all of the few disengagements I ve had were because it took a corner too wide and got uncomfortably close to a car on the outside lane. It seems to round all the bends by starting its turn a little too late bouncing off the outside line then continuing the rest of the turn just fine in the middle. Anyone know why the changed it? Was it less safe? Or maybe there s a setting in missing? (doubt that but worth checking) Edit: [Here s](https: www.google.com amp s cleantechnica.com 2020 06 06 tesla-autopilot-drives-blue-ridge-parkway-in-raid-fog-for-over-an-hour amp ) an article that talks a bit about the update where they made it correctly hug the inside of corners. | This is going to sound overdramatic but it s actually the main reason I can t really use FSD for a lot of my trips anymore. Or at the very least can t use carpool lanes or the “passing lane” with FSD. Most of the freeways around where I live in SoCal do not have center shoulders. Those shoulders were cannibalized years ago to add additional lanes. That means the center divider wall sits directly on the left edge of the left lane. No gap between the line and the wall. Whenever FSD takes a right turn it insists on staying in the center of the lane but also reacts too slowly and will swing to within less of a foot from the center divider wall before straightening out. Too close for any human to react in time if it somehow needed it. | I think it rides to close to the centerline on the straights 🤷♂️ | 32 | 4 | 8,436 |
n3wjqx | 113 | Tesla Supercharging Etiquette Here is a video from the YouTube channel Frugal Tesla Guy about the etiquette of charging using a Tesla Supercharger. This is for newbie Tesla Owners future Tesla owners and current Tesla owners that may not be aware: [https: youtu.be -rQRKI7iFcU](https: youtu.be -rQRKI7iFcU) | This is super helpful. For someone who s still waiting for their delivery I had no idea the v2 s shared power with their neighbor. It makes sense now why I always see cars completely separated from each other at super charging station. I just assumed it was like a men s public urinal: stay as far away from me as possible. | Regarding queueing I finally had my first queue in the Cabazon outlets on the way home from the desert this weekend. The queue weirdly started at the closest entrance to the main road which perplexes me. And there was no line people just kind of stopped when they drove in blocking traffic flow altogether. I tried doing the right thing by parking in front since none of the parking in that area was taken but was immediately queue jumped by a couple of cars. | 64 | 8 | 8,437 |
n3wjqx | 113 | Tesla Supercharging Etiquette Here is a video from the YouTube channel Frugal Tesla Guy about the etiquette of charging using a Tesla Supercharger. This is for newbie Tesla Owners future Tesla owners and current Tesla owners that may not be aware: [https: youtu.be -rQRKI7iFcU](https: youtu.be -rQRKI7iFcU) | This is super helpful. For someone who s still waiting for their delivery I had no idea the v2 s shared power with their neighbor. It makes sense now why I always see cars completely separated from each other at super charging station. I just assumed it was like a men s public urinal: stay as far away from me as possible. | For all of you here who are asking about trash cans how about you put some trash bags and a trash picker upper in your trunk and spend 10 minutes cleaning up? I do it all the time. | 64 | 21 | 8,438 |
n4a9i1 | 198 | Superchargers at National Parks Has anyone at Tesla lobbied worked with the National Park Service to get Superchargers at National Parks? Gas stations are in most parks and they are supposed to be about conservation so why aren t electric vehicle charging stations in every one? There are certain national parks I simply cannot visit right now because of the charging situation. Many others demand that you pay ~$170 a night (highway robbery) at nearby hotels to charge at destination chargers (imagine asking someone driving a gas car to pay that premium?). Most National Parks have visitor centers & electricity. How is it possible this hasn t been implemented at all anywhere? We should be able to access all our national parks with Teslas! endrant | I suspect we ll see this in the infrastructure bill — there s currently a surprising lack of EV chargers on federal land (parks military bases etc.) | the concessions at most National Park have been farmed out to companies such as Delaware North etc. and I have no idea about their attitude toward chargers or the National Park Service s attitude.. gas stations are very limited most parks have one that is it ... I suppose an appeal to the Parks service is the way to go with this ...it will be interesting to see how this works out | 40 | 2 | 8,439 |
n4a9i1 | 198 | Superchargers at National Parks Has anyone at Tesla lobbied worked with the National Park Service to get Superchargers at National Parks? Gas stations are in most parks and they are supposed to be about conservation so why aren t electric vehicle charging stations in every one? There are certain national parks I simply cannot visit right now because of the charging situation. Many others demand that you pay ~$170 a night (highway robbery) at nearby hotels to charge at destination chargers (imagine asking someone driving a gas car to pay that premium?). Most National Parks have visitor centers & electricity. How is it possible this hasn t been implemented at all anywhere? We should be able to access all our national parks with Teslas! endrant | I suspect we ll see this in the infrastructure bill — there s currently a surprising lack of EV chargers on federal land (parks military bases etc.) | Y all do realize superchargers need a ton of energy? Natural parks don t have those kinds of feeds available. Now if they figured out solar supercharging then maybe. But this wouldn t be an easy thing to accomplish. | 40 | 9 | 8,440 |
n4a9i1 | 198 | Superchargers at National Parks Has anyone at Tesla lobbied worked with the National Park Service to get Superchargers at National Parks? Gas stations are in most parks and they are supposed to be about conservation so why aren t electric vehicle charging stations in every one? There are certain national parks I simply cannot visit right now because of the charging situation. Many others demand that you pay ~$170 a night (highway robbery) at nearby hotels to charge at destination chargers (imagine asking someone driving a gas car to pay that premium?). Most National Parks have visitor centers & electricity. How is it possible this hasn t been implemented at all anywhere? We should be able to access all our national parks with Teslas! endrant | I suspect we ll see this in the infrastructure bill — there s currently a surprising lack of EV chargers on federal land (parks military bases etc.) | I could have sworn I ve seen this topic recently here. Within the past week or so even. Regardless of that I m 100% on board. Would LOVE to drive up to the Grand Canyon and charge up while hiking!! | 40 | 12 | 8,441 |
n4b0ig | 66 | DC Combo (CCS1) - Tesla proprietary port adapter is on the way in KR. & #x200B https: preview.redd.it h2no8435tzw61.jpg?width=600& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=e1438279eca582f3d701c90fb5776cc044f4d4aa Source: [Korean Agency for Technology and Standards](https: www.safetykorea.kr release certDetail?certNum=ZZ07011-20001& certUid=5048177)(KATS)\\* via [Tesla Owners Club South Korea](https: cafe.naver.com teslaownersclub 18140) There s no official launching date but Tesla Korea has been stating they ll launch this product sometime in 1H 2021. There has been little information about this product. But on May 4th (local time) a member of TOC Korea (named Driver ) found it s now certified by KATS. (analogy in US: it s approved by FCC) \\*KATS(Korean Agency for Technology and Standards) is FCC equivalent in Korea | Please please please come to the US!!! | itshappening.gif !! | 36 | 2 | 8,442 |
n4b0ig | 66 | DC Combo (CCS1) - Tesla proprietary port adapter is on the way in KR. & #x200B https: preview.redd.it h2no8435tzw61.jpg?width=600& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=e1438279eca582f3d701c90fb5776cc044f4d4aa Source: [Korean Agency for Technology and Standards](https: www.safetykorea.kr release certDetail?certNum=ZZ07011-20001& certUid=5048177)(KATS)\\* via [Tesla Owners Club South Korea](https: cafe.naver.com teslaownersclub 18140) There s no official launching date but Tesla Korea has been stating they ll launch this product sometime in 1H 2021. There has been little information about this product. But on May 4th (local time) a member of TOC Korea (named Driver ) found it s now certified by KATS. (analogy in US: it s approved by FCC) \\*KATS(Korean Agency for Technology and Standards) is FCC equivalent in Korea | Please please please come to the US!!! | What am I looking at in the picture? It doesn t look anything like a CCS combo plug | 36 | 3 | 8,443 |
n4fbjt | 57 | I found a keycard in a parking lot apparently I have to meet the text limit. I was working my delivery route today and stumbled upon a Tesla keycard facedown in a parking lot. I thought about leaving it with one of the stores in that strip mall but figured I could hand deliver it back to its owner if I can figure out any info about the card or at least have it shipped to them someone who can appropriately figure that out. does anyone have any insight to this? or would that owner be out of luck? | I heard if you find the car that it belongs to you get to keep it. That s how I got my Tesla anyway. | Maybe try asking in your local Tesla Facebook group if there is one. Maybe the owner is in the group and you can share where you found it. | 122 | 2 | 8,444 |
n4fbjt | 57 | I found a keycard in a parking lot apparently I have to meet the text limit. I was working my delivery route today and stumbled upon a Tesla keycard facedown in a parking lot. I thought about leaving it with one of the stores in that strip mall but figured I could hand deliver it back to its owner if I can figure out any info about the card or at least have it shipped to them someone who can appropriately figure that out. does anyone have any insight to this? or would that owner be out of luck? | I heard if you find the car that it belongs to you get to keep it. That s how I got my Tesla anyway. | If you really feel generous drop it off at either the Tesla showroom in Washington Square Mall or the Tesla repair shop in S Waterfront. They *should* be able to get it back to its owner although as others have said replacement cards are cheap so it s more just the inconvenience for the owner than the cost. | 122 | 19 | 8,445 |
n4fbjt | 57 | I found a keycard in a parking lot apparently I have to meet the text limit. I was working my delivery route today and stumbled upon a Tesla keycard facedown in a parking lot. I thought about leaving it with one of the stores in that strip mall but figured I could hand deliver it back to its owner if I can figure out any info about the card or at least have it shipped to them someone who can appropriately figure that out. does anyone have any insight to this? or would that owner be out of luck? | I heard if you find the car that it belongs to you get to keep it. That s how I got my Tesla anyway. | It s a cheap card. If you can t find the person just toss it. I wouldn t waste too much time on it. | 122 | 29 | 8,446 |
n5cs94 | 70 | Model 3 Tires So my model 3 std + is coming up to 35 000 miles and I finally need to change tires. I reached out to tesla service for new tires who quoted me $1420 for a set of Michelin Primacy MXM4 P235 45R18 fitted with a 10 day wait. I checked costco tire who quoted me $1110 for the same tire fitted with a 10 day wait. I m going with costco although I am worried they may not be familiar with tesla jack points pucks etc.. will post back if they screw anything up. I did research on tire alternatives but the distance and quietness give up on other tires did not seem worth the cost save trade off to me. Anyway thought I d share in case anyone found any of this info useful. Note Tesla originally tried to order me summer tires (235 45R18 98Y SUMMER MICHELIN PS4) despite me being in the north east so check the order if you do go through Tesla. TLDR Costco tire was $300 cheaper than tesla for tires. -------Update Post Fitting-------- Hi as a follow- up to this post: https: redd.it n5cs94 Got the tires fitted at Costco today: -Price was as advertised ($300 cheaper than via Tesla). -Took 2 hours. -Tires were the new T1 version of MXM4. Tires feel more grippy and are quiet. Tires had accoustic dampening. Haven t tested range yet. -Costco had pucks for Jack points didn t use mine. -Was a good reminder of how hyped regular folks are to get in a Tesla- got way more enthusiam from the folks working there than on my non-Teslas and better service. -No scratches on wheels. The only thing they didn t know was how to find out the mileage on the car. The other downside was that I spent more than the savings in Costco while waiting... TLDR: Costco experience was good for new Model 3 Tires. | Firstly Tesla is not a tire shop and is not interested in becoming one no shocker their prices aren t competitive. I use Costco for all my tire changes - they are awesome near me know Teslas have pucks. I suggest you call and ask yours unless you re in the back of beyond it s likely they see more Teslas than you realize they are not a rare vehicle these days. | For summers I ended up going with Hankook Ventus S1 Evo3. They have the foam and are OEM spec for the Model 3 19 wheels now. 1k miles in and they ve been great. Price for 4 was $769 (I run 19 wheels) [https: www.tirerack.com tires tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook& tireModel=Ventus+S1+evo3#RatingsReviews](https: www.tirerack.com tires tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook& tireModel=Ventus+S1+evo3#RatingsReviews) for winter I have Vredestein wintrac pros also 19 [https: www.tirerack.com tires tires.jsp?tireMake=Vredestein& tireModel=Wintrac+Pro](https: www.tirerack.com tires tires.jsp?tireMake=Vredestein& tireModel=Wintrac+Pro) | 64 | 3 | 8,447 |
n5cs94 | 70 | Model 3 Tires So my model 3 std + is coming up to 35 000 miles and I finally need to change tires. I reached out to tesla service for new tires who quoted me $1420 for a set of Michelin Primacy MXM4 P235 45R18 fitted with a 10 day wait. I checked costco tire who quoted me $1110 for the same tire fitted with a 10 day wait. I m going with costco although I am worried they may not be familiar with tesla jack points pucks etc.. will post back if they screw anything up. I did research on tire alternatives but the distance and quietness give up on other tires did not seem worth the cost save trade off to me. Anyway thought I d share in case anyone found any of this info useful. Note Tesla originally tried to order me summer tires (235 45R18 98Y SUMMER MICHELIN PS4) despite me being in the north east so check the order if you do go through Tesla. TLDR Costco tire was $300 cheaper than tesla for tires. -------Update Post Fitting-------- Hi as a follow- up to this post: https: redd.it n5cs94 Got the tires fitted at Costco today: -Price was as advertised ($300 cheaper than via Tesla). -Took 2 hours. -Tires were the new T1 version of MXM4. Tires feel more grippy and are quiet. Tires had accoustic dampening. Haven t tested range yet. -Costco had pucks for Jack points didn t use mine. -Was a good reminder of how hyped regular folks are to get in a Tesla- got way more enthusiam from the folks working there than on my non-Teslas and better service. -No scratches on wheels. The only thing they didn t know was how to find out the mileage on the car. The other downside was that I spent more than the savings in Costco while waiting... TLDR: Costco experience was good for new Model 3 Tires. | Firstly Tesla is not a tire shop and is not interested in becoming one no shocker their prices aren t competitive. I use Costco for all my tire changes - they are awesome near me know Teslas have pucks. I suggest you call and ask yours unless you re in the back of beyond it s likely they see more Teslas than you realize they are not a rare vehicle these days. | I ordered General Tire Altimax from tirerack for much cheaper. You can have them shipped directly to an installer. In the winter I just dropped my wheels off at the installer they did the mounting for $70. Tire has been great. | 64 | 4 | 8,448 |
n5cs94 | 70 | Model 3 Tires So my model 3 std + is coming up to 35 000 miles and I finally need to change tires. I reached out to tesla service for new tires who quoted me $1420 for a set of Michelin Primacy MXM4 P235 45R18 fitted with a 10 day wait. I checked costco tire who quoted me $1110 for the same tire fitted with a 10 day wait. I m going with costco although I am worried they may not be familiar with tesla jack points pucks etc.. will post back if they screw anything up. I did research on tire alternatives but the distance and quietness give up on other tires did not seem worth the cost save trade off to me. Anyway thought I d share in case anyone found any of this info useful. Note Tesla originally tried to order me summer tires (235 45R18 98Y SUMMER MICHELIN PS4) despite me being in the north east so check the order if you do go through Tesla. TLDR Costco tire was $300 cheaper than tesla for tires. -------Update Post Fitting-------- Hi as a follow- up to this post: https: redd.it n5cs94 Got the tires fitted at Costco today: -Price was as advertised ($300 cheaper than via Tesla). -Took 2 hours. -Tires were the new T1 version of MXM4. Tires feel more grippy and are quiet. Tires had accoustic dampening. Haven t tested range yet. -Costco had pucks for Jack points didn t use mine. -Was a good reminder of how hyped regular folks are to get in a Tesla- got way more enthusiam from the folks working there than on my non-Teslas and better service. -No scratches on wheels. The only thing they didn t know was how to find out the mileage on the car. The other downside was that I spent more than the savings in Costco while waiting... TLDR: Costco experience was good for new Model 3 Tires. | Firstly Tesla is not a tire shop and is not interested in becoming one no shocker their prices aren t competitive. I use Costco for all my tire changes - they are awesome near me know Teslas have pucks. I suggest you call and ask yours unless you re in the back of beyond it s likely they see more Teslas than you realize they are not a rare vehicle these days. | Do the MXM4 sold by Costco have the foam in them for sound deadening? | 64 | 10 | 8,449 |
n695fm | 3,268 | The smartest idea Elon ever had was making Tesla into a tech company not a green company. One of the biggest problems for many alternative energy environmental companies is their focus lies on how their product is going to save the world. All the customer has to do is buy the product and they will save the world!!! Everybody gets to feel good pats on the back envrionment is saved. They forget humans are selfish bastards. We got this way because we humans are greedy little monkeys. We want the coolest toys the biggest guns the tastiest fruit. In addition most of the monkeys are going to die before the world burns up. It s hard to care about something that will not affect you at all (this is why we have conservatives). So take your greedy little monkeys and put them in front of two cars. One is marketed as: (: environmentally friendly :) !!!fake leather!!!No animals were hurt in the making of THIS car!!! 0-60 in 5 seconds so you don t waste any energy!! The other is: wrrrraaahh me soo tuff. When you drive me you are faster STRONGER better. Big ICE STRONG. Buy our cars and YOU get laid. It s all about YOU. Our greedy monkey is going to buy the second one. The monkey cares about themself first and others second. This is how Tesla is winning. Instead of focusing on the EV portion and how buying a Tesla will help save the planet they are focusing on what the monkey wants. Cool gadgets full glass ceilings falcon wing doors auto-pilot. They are making an EV car for a greedy little monkeys. Monke s 4 tesla | Tesla means a lot of things to many different people. To the Prius treehuggers it s the zero emission. To the Techies it s iPhone on wheels. To the petrolhead it s a ridiculous fast car that smokes almost everything else. To those who hate driving AP is godsend for heavy traffic. To the 2 vegans it s a steering wheel with no animal killed. That s why it s successful. | Yup. It was a winning strategy but it s worth noting it was also a countermove. The ICE industry s attempt to kill off the electric car was to “wussify” it out of existence. Make crappy cars limit their availability corral them back in and scrap them. I remember those days. It almost worked. | 1,349 | 14 | 8,450 |
n695fm | 3,268 | The smartest idea Elon ever had was making Tesla into a tech company not a green company. One of the biggest problems for many alternative energy environmental companies is their focus lies on how their product is going to save the world. All the customer has to do is buy the product and they will save the world!!! Everybody gets to feel good pats on the back envrionment is saved. They forget humans are selfish bastards. We got this way because we humans are greedy little monkeys. We want the coolest toys the biggest guns the tastiest fruit. In addition most of the monkeys are going to die before the world burns up. It s hard to care about something that will not affect you at all (this is why we have conservatives). So take your greedy little monkeys and put them in front of two cars. One is marketed as: (: environmentally friendly :) !!!fake leather!!!No animals were hurt in the making of THIS car!!! 0-60 in 5 seconds so you don t waste any energy!! The other is: wrrrraaahh me soo tuff. When you drive me you are faster STRONGER better. Big ICE STRONG. Buy our cars and YOU get laid. It s all about YOU. Our greedy monkey is going to buy the second one. The monkey cares about themself first and others second. This is how Tesla is winning. Instead of focusing on the EV portion and how buying a Tesla will help save the planet they are focusing on what the monkey wants. Cool gadgets full glass ceilings falcon wing doors auto-pilot. They are making an EV car for a greedy little monkeys. Monke s 4 tesla | Tesla means a lot of things to many different people. To the Prius treehuggers it s the zero emission. To the Techies it s iPhone on wheels. To the petrolhead it s a ridiculous fast car that smokes almost everything else. To those who hate driving AP is godsend for heavy traffic. To the 2 vegans it s a steering wheel with no animal killed. That s why it s successful. | Agree with most of your post except this part: > falcon wing doors If those were on the Model 3 I wouldn t have bought it. | 1,349 | 73 | 8,451 |
n695fm | 3,268 | The smartest idea Elon ever had was making Tesla into a tech company not a green company. One of the biggest problems for many alternative energy environmental companies is their focus lies on how their product is going to save the world. All the customer has to do is buy the product and they will save the world!!! Everybody gets to feel good pats on the back envrionment is saved. They forget humans are selfish bastards. We got this way because we humans are greedy little monkeys. We want the coolest toys the biggest guns the tastiest fruit. In addition most of the monkeys are going to die before the world burns up. It s hard to care about something that will not affect you at all (this is why we have conservatives). So take your greedy little monkeys and put them in front of two cars. One is marketed as: (: environmentally friendly :) !!!fake leather!!!No animals were hurt in the making of THIS car!!! 0-60 in 5 seconds so you don t waste any energy!! The other is: wrrrraaahh me soo tuff. When you drive me you are faster STRONGER better. Big ICE STRONG. Buy our cars and YOU get laid. It s all about YOU. Our greedy monkey is going to buy the second one. The monkey cares about themself first and others second. This is how Tesla is winning. Instead of focusing on the EV portion and how buying a Tesla will help save the planet they are focusing on what the monkey wants. Cool gadgets full glass ceilings falcon wing doors auto-pilot. They are making an EV car for a greedy little monkeys. Monke s 4 tesla | They made sure to make EVs that looked good and performed very well too. Contrast this with traditional automakers crapping out poorly designed EVs that nobody wanted because they didn t want to upset their money making ICE market. | Environmentalist would say walk ride bike or public transit to save the earth but Elon said you need a car to go to work meet family & friends go places-why not do that without damaging the ecology & your hard earn money-that s why both our family cars are EVs since 2016. | 240 | 11 | 8,452 |
n6efgs | 60 | What can I do to make my Tesla last as long as possible? So long story short I am inheriting a 2017 MS 90D FSD with all the upgrades etc. I plan on having this be my car for at least a few hundred thousand miles and I m wondering if any folks could point me in the direction of resources that can help me keep it in tip top shape. I ve never really owned a car before so this is all kind of new to me. I know there ll be some Tesla specific stuff but also there s probably plenty of just general things to be aware of. What should I do? Get those cool paint film things to prevent scratches? RainX or something? I dunno. I m feeling a little overwhelmed by all this having never owned a car let alone one this nice so any advice is appreciated. I am truly clueless | Take a deep breath.... now relax. It s just a car. You re just going to drive it. You won t hurt it doing that. It s going to be fun! Probably the best thing you can do is educate yourself on the car by reading the manual from cover to cover. Really everything you need to know is in there and discovering all the neat things it can do is fun. It isn t a homework assignment that has to be done by a certain time. Just relax and read up on things as time permits. Have a nice drink nearby while you read. Make it a calming thing. Smile. Relax. Enjoy! | - Battery likes to be under ~80% and over ~20% SoC (state of charge) closest to 50% is best for its longevity. Don t charge to over 90% if you don t need it or plan to use it that day. - Maintenance is very minimal for these cars but do take it in as recommended at do your standard tire rotations replacements etc. | 158 | 53 | 8,453 |
n6wep9 | 21 | Tesla model 3 buyout I leased a Model 3 and I would like to buy it out. When I go to manage my lease it says lease buyout not allowed however it seems their is a option to sell it to a third party dealer. Is their any disadvantage to having it sold to third party dealer and me buying it off him? | Not to be harsh but you really should have read through your contract assuming you are in the US. You cannot buyout the lease and adding FSD you literally pissed away cash. | If you are willing to wait it is rumored that US will get Model 3 Y lease buyouts in the future. Europe and Asia already have this option. The only issue I would consider is the residual value and market value. If the car is still worth a lot it s then it might be a good idea to buyout if not buying new is better for your money. | 93 | 3 | 8,454 |
n6wep9 | 21 | Tesla model 3 buyout I leased a Model 3 and I would like to buy it out. When I go to manage my lease it says lease buyout not allowed however it seems their is a option to sell it to a third party dealer. Is their any disadvantage to having it sold to third party dealer and me buying it off him? | Not to be harsh but you really should have read through your contract assuming you are in the US. You cannot buyout the lease and adding FSD you literally pissed away cash. | Tesla wants to take leased cars back. | 93 | 8 | 8,455 |
n6wep9 | 21 | Tesla model 3 buyout I leased a Model 3 and I would like to buy it out. When I go to manage my lease it says lease buyout not allowed however it seems their is a option to sell it to a third party dealer. Is their any disadvantage to having it sold to third party dealer and me buying it off him? | Not to be harsh but you really should have read through your contract assuming you are in the US. You cannot buyout the lease and adding FSD you literally pissed away cash. | The dealer will have to make a profit. You will pay more but they don t give you a choice. | 93 | 10 | 8,456 |
n728oj | 23 | Alignment - Normal for SC tech to drive 20+ miles in my car? I took my 2018 Standard Range M3 into the Nashville TN service center last week for a full body alignment. 3 hours later and $160 bucks I am good to go. I noted though that the odometer was +22 miles from when I parked it at the service center. Is that normal to drive that far to verify alignment success? *edit* I appreciate the info. For some of the angry keyboard smashers I am not worried that someone is trying to joyride with my sad unfun lowest on the totem pole M3 - I am simply trying to understand if that is the normal amount of mileage it takes after an alignment or if possibly there was something else they were potentially investigating but did not report on. | recalibrate of AP can be 20-25 miles. Would not surprise me if it is recommended after an alignment since the chassis will respond differently from what AP had learned. Probably not required unless there is a major adjustment or damage repair but I could see a shop making it a standard part of procedure to recalibrate just due to some liability. | Did you ask them? | 53 | 3 | 8,457 |
n728oj | 23 | Alignment - Normal for SC tech to drive 20+ miles in my car? I took my 2018 Standard Range M3 into the Nashville TN service center last week for a full body alignment. 3 hours later and $160 bucks I am good to go. I noted though that the odometer was +22 miles from when I parked it at the service center. Is that normal to drive that far to verify alignment success? *edit* I appreciate the info. For some of the angry keyboard smashers I am not worried that someone is trying to joyride with my sad unfun lowest on the totem pole M3 - I am simply trying to understand if that is the normal amount of mileage it takes after an alignment or if possibly there was something else they were potentially investigating but did not report on. | I m pretty sure a Tesla tech who services hundreds of Tesla s a month isn t taking a M3 for extra joy rides. | 22 seems a little high but typically the tech will take it to make sure nothing is pulling. Especially with a Model 3 because it s not as adjustable as a normal vehicle unless you have aftermarket suspension. | 33 | 2 | 8,458 |
n728oj | 23 | Alignment - Normal for SC tech to drive 20+ miles in my car? I took my 2018 Standard Range M3 into the Nashville TN service center last week for a full body alignment. 3 hours later and $160 bucks I am good to go. I noted though that the odometer was +22 miles from when I parked it at the service center. Is that normal to drive that far to verify alignment success? *edit* I appreciate the info. For some of the angry keyboard smashers I am not worried that someone is trying to joyride with my sad unfun lowest on the totem pole M3 - I am simply trying to understand if that is the normal amount of mileage it takes after an alignment or if possibly there was something else they were potentially investigating but did not report on. | I m pretty sure a Tesla tech who services hundreds of Tesla s a month isn t taking a M3 for extra joy rides. | Did you ask them? | 33 | 3 | 8,459 |
n7eahg | 38 | Tesla owners how has maintenance on your vehicle been? I m in the market to buy a Model 3 pretty soon and the sales guy was telling me how they break down way less than gas powered vehicles. I guess it makes sense considering how prehistoric gas powered engines seem compared to an electric vehicle but I m curious how true this is. I don t want to buy one if it s gonna cost me a ton in maintenance. What s your experience been? Don t get me wrong I love the company and the car was A-MAZING to test drive. I m sold as long as they aren t super expensive to repair. Thanks for any input! I appreciate it. Edit: It s official. I m dropping ICE! Thanks for all the input as this thread really helped me make the final decision. | What s maintenance ? | My X was a pain but it was an early version. 3 had some annoying rattles and a drivers seat that they finally got redesigned bolts for. The Y went in once for a sticky parking break they found nothing and it s never happened again. | 83 | 3 | 8,460 |
n7eahg | 38 | Tesla owners how has maintenance on your vehicle been? I m in the market to buy a Model 3 pretty soon and the sales guy was telling me how they break down way less than gas powered vehicles. I guess it makes sense considering how prehistoric gas powered engines seem compared to an electric vehicle but I m curious how true this is. I don t want to buy one if it s gonna cost me a ton in maintenance. What s your experience been? Don t get me wrong I love the company and the car was A-MAZING to test drive. I m sold as long as they aren t super expensive to repair. Thanks for any input! I appreciate it. Edit: It s official. I m dropping ICE! Thanks for all the input as this thread really helped me make the final decision. | What s maintenance ? | Tesla cars require far less maintenance than ICE cars but they do require some. Because of regenerative braking it s not uncommon for the original brake pads to last 100 000 miles or more. However in regions that salt the roads in the winter annual cleaning of the braking system is advised. Windshield wipers need changing semiannually and tires need balancing and replacing just like any other car. You need to add windshield wiper solution occasionally as well. And the interior air filter should be replaced every few years. But that s about all. You never need to change the oil never need to replace the engine air filter never service the transmission. You never need to change the spark plugs or clean the injectors. Don t worry about the fuel pump or the ignition system or the alternator. Instead put up your feet and plan where you want to drive on your next cross-country trip. | 83 | 13 | 8,461 |
n7eahg | 38 | Tesla owners how has maintenance on your vehicle been? I m in the market to buy a Model 3 pretty soon and the sales guy was telling me how they break down way less than gas powered vehicles. I guess it makes sense considering how prehistoric gas powered engines seem compared to an electric vehicle but I m curious how true this is. I don t want to buy one if it s gonna cost me a ton in maintenance. What s your experience been? Don t get me wrong I love the company and the car was A-MAZING to test drive. I m sold as long as they aren t super expensive to repair. Thanks for any input! I appreciate it. Edit: It s official. I m dropping ICE! Thanks for all the input as this thread really helped me make the final decision. | What s maintenance ? | Nonexistent. | 83 | 15 | 8,462 |
n99cpx | 282 | Feels like Tesla has really started lacking on the software updates...Where s the rest of the new features? Do you agree? I first got my Tesla in Q1 2020 - It seemed like every 8 weeks or so there was an update coming out even if somewhat minor. But I got the car right before it was updated with hulu youtube etc. some visual changes...and with last year s horrendous holiday update with that bad new UI...seems like things have just...stopped. We are nearly halfway through the year and none of those awesome new features Elon has talked about have ever come out. What the hell is going on? Did he pull all of the UI software team to another project? | They are probably working hard on new s x software for the refresh. You really can t trust much of what Elon says on Twitter with respect to timelines. Edit: there have been numerous software updates but most were bug fixes and under the hood improvements or testing. | What awesome new features are you referring to? | 185 | 2 | 8,463 |
n99cpx | 282 | Feels like Tesla has really started lacking on the software updates...Where s the rest of the new features? Do you agree? I first got my Tesla in Q1 2020 - It seemed like every 8 weeks or so there was an update coming out even if somewhat minor. But I got the car right before it was updated with hulu youtube etc. some visual changes...and with last year s horrendous holiday update with that bad new UI...seems like things have just...stopped. We are nearly halfway through the year and none of those awesome new features Elon has talked about have ever come out. What the hell is going on? Did he pull all of the UI software team to another project? | They are probably working hard on new s x software for the refresh. You really can t trust much of what Elon says on Twitter with respect to timelines. Edit: there have been numerous software updates but most were bug fixes and under the hood improvements or testing. | Yes they are making promised to be released in 2018 full FSD. | 185 | 68 | 8,464 |
n99cpx | 282 | Feels like Tesla has really started lacking on the software updates...Where s the rest of the new features? Do you agree? I first got my Tesla in Q1 2020 - It seemed like every 8 weeks or so there was an update coming out even if somewhat minor. But I got the car right before it was updated with hulu youtube etc. some visual changes...and with last year s horrendous holiday update with that bad new UI...seems like things have just...stopped. We are nearly halfway through the year and none of those awesome new features Elon has talked about have ever come out. What the hell is going on? Did he pull all of the UI software team to another project? | Fairly certain they re waiting for V11 to release a bunch of new stuff at once. I speculate the infamous 🔥🔥 were referring to the V11 stuff that they eventually decided to hold back likely once the refreshed S X s launch (and likely to coincide with The Button .) | What awesome new features are you referring to? | 103 | 2 | 8,465 |
naah3s | 2,542 | My model 3 saved my life today To preface this I was on my way home for the day in basically stopped traffic on a busy highway. I was in the right lane and wanted to move into the middle lane. Problem was there were a lot of oncoming cars and almost no breaks in between them. I saw a decent sized gap coming in the cars and decided to try and change lanes as fast as I could. So I hit the accelerator but my car moved about 2 feet and then stopped. No warnings or beeps just stopped. For a split second I thought that was weird. After that brief moment I saw out my left side that a car had swerved into the middle lane (the one I was merging into) at a high speed moments before I tried to merge. The car stopped me from accelerating so I wouldn t be T-boned by a large SUV at 70 mph. Thank you Tesla you have a customer for life. | If you had been in the crash and it had killed you you still would have been a customer for life... Technically speaking. | That is truly amazing and so glad that your ok! | 283 | 7 | 8,466 |
naah3s | 2,542 | My model 3 saved my life today To preface this I was on my way home for the day in basically stopped traffic on a busy highway. I was in the right lane and wanted to move into the middle lane. Problem was there were a lot of oncoming cars and almost no breaks in between them. I saw a decent sized gap coming in the cars and decided to try and change lanes as fast as I could. So I hit the accelerator but my car moved about 2 feet and then stopped. No warnings or beeps just stopped. For a split second I thought that was weird. After that brief moment I saw out my left side that a car had swerved into the middle lane (the one I was merging into) at a high speed moments before I tried to merge. The car stopped me from accelerating so I wouldn t be T-boned by a large SUV at 70 mph. Thank you Tesla you have a customer for life. | If you had been in the crash and it had killed you you still would have been a customer for life... Technically speaking. | Very interesting. So when not using autopilot a Tesla can anticipate a potential collision and intervene? Is this the same sort of safety feature (intervention with AP deactivated) that will automatically accelerate the car if it detects it ll get rear ended? | 283 | 51 | 8,467 |
naah3s | 2,542 | My model 3 saved my life today To preface this I was on my way home for the day in basically stopped traffic on a busy highway. I was in the right lane and wanted to move into the middle lane. Problem was there were a lot of oncoming cars and almost no breaks in between them. I saw a decent sized gap coming in the cars and decided to try and change lanes as fast as I could. So I hit the accelerator but my car moved about 2 feet and then stopped. No warnings or beeps just stopped. For a split second I thought that was weird. After that brief moment I saw out my left side that a car had swerved into the middle lane (the one I was merging into) at a high speed moments before I tried to merge. The car stopped me from accelerating so I wouldn t be T-boned by a large SUV at 70 mph. Thank you Tesla you have a customer for life. | The best case of this I ve seen was actually whilst on Autopilot I prompted the car to change lane the car blinks the indicator 3 times then starts moving and I check its clear again as it starts moving. However about half way through the lane change the car started tracking straight instead of continuing then slowly starting moving back to the old lane so I took over confused. Thankfully as I took over I looked again to see what was up and someone in a big van was in my off-side blind spot who had switched lanes at the same time as me but hadn t indicated or noticed my car indicating 3 blinks prior to moving. They were VERY close to my off-side rear door where I never would have noticed them as undertaking is illegal here in Europe and extremely uncommon it s not something we expect at all. Car had completely avoided the incident and I hadn t even noticed it was happening didn t even give me a collision avoidance warning. Crazy moment that I d rather not be in again extremely aware of this being possible now and check much more closely when moving into a middle lane now. :) | That is truly amazing and so glad that your ok! | 175 | 7 | 8,468 |
naib8h | 485 | Backseat Tesla driver arrested The man who had been spotted recently driving his Tesla from the backseat was arrested Monday on two counts of reckless driving. He is out of jail now until his next court date. Authorities said he was previously cited on April 27 for similar behavior. https: www.ktvu.com news man-arrested-for-riding-in-back-of-driverless-tesla-on-autopilot-gets-out-of-jail KTVU had an interview with the man ~~(which has not been updated on their website yet)~~. In that interview the man was defiant and said there was nothing dangerous about what he was doing and would continue to drive from the backseat. In fact when he got out of jail he drove home in the backseat of his Tesla. | I think there s something mentally wrong with this dude. | As I remember when autopilot first came out you have to nag on the steering wheel every minute or so. But these dumb fucks ruined it for us. And now it s every 10 seconds. | 368 | 122 | 8,469 |
naib8h | 485 | Backseat Tesla driver arrested The man who had been spotted recently driving his Tesla from the backseat was arrested Monday on two counts of reckless driving. He is out of jail now until his next court date. Authorities said he was previously cited on April 27 for similar behavior. https: www.ktvu.com news man-arrested-for-riding-in-back-of-driverless-tesla-on-autopilot-gets-out-of-jail KTVU had an interview with the man ~~(which has not been updated on their website yet)~~. In that interview the man was defiant and said there was nothing dangerous about what he was doing and would continue to drive from the backseat. In fact when he got out of jail he drove home in the backseat of his Tesla. | He should lose his license for putting others (and himself) at clear risk end of story. | spoiler alert: he ll do it again (and he did) | 94 | 7 | 8,470 |
naib8h | 485 | Backseat Tesla driver arrested The man who had been spotted recently driving his Tesla from the backseat was arrested Monday on two counts of reckless driving. He is out of jail now until his next court date. Authorities said he was previously cited on April 27 for similar behavior. https: www.ktvu.com news man-arrested-for-riding-in-back-of-driverless-tesla-on-autopilot-gets-out-of-jail KTVU had an interview with the man ~~(which has not been updated on their website yet)~~. In that interview the man was defiant and said there was nothing dangerous about what he was doing and would continue to drive from the backseat. In fact when he got out of jail he drove home in the backseat of his Tesla. | He should lose his license for putting others (and himself) at clear risk end of story. | I really think Tesla should take note of incidents like this and remove autopilot functionality from the offender s car. | 94 | 13 | 8,471 |
nazw0v | 47 | What are some common standard features in other cars that are missing in a Tesla? Let s discuss and even talk about if we think they will be added. My first 2 are: 1) bird s eye view camera 2) cooled ventilated seats (at least on 3 Y) I see my dad and his new Cadillac XTS and even though it s a boring car I do get jealous of both of those features. Thankfully bird s eye view could be added via software update | Blind spot monitor (on the side view mirror and not on screen) | Heated steering wheel | 108 | 2 | 8,472 |
nazw0v | 47 | What are some common standard features in other cars that are missing in a Tesla? Let s discuss and even talk about if we think they will be added. My first 2 are: 1) bird s eye view camera 2) cooled ventilated seats (at least on 3 Y) I see my dad and his new Cadillac XTS and even though it s a boring car I do get jealous of both of those features. Thankfully bird s eye view could be added via software update | Blind spot monitor (on the side view mirror and not on screen) | blind side awareness. | 108 | 3 | 8,473 |
nazw0v | 47 | What are some common standard features in other cars that are missing in a Tesla? Let s discuss and even talk about if we think they will be added. My first 2 are: 1) bird s eye view camera 2) cooled ventilated seats (at least on 3 Y) I see my dad and his new Cadillac XTS and even though it s a boring car I do get jealous of both of those features. Thankfully bird s eye view could be added via software update | Blind spot monitor (on the side view mirror and not on screen) | Blind spot monitoring. Apparently I heard something about birds eye view coming in some update in some decade. | 108 | 22 | 8,474 |
nc9oz9 | 77 | Refresh S X dates updated Apparently someone received an update on their Model X order. Someone on Twitter posted a screenshot that states a delivery date of October now. Apparently they ordered February 20th. https: twitter.com milmilebattery status 1393206651130363906?s=21 | It s frustrating that there isn t a clear explanation for why it s being delayed but everybody can just put their pikachu shocked faces away and look at EVERYTHING that is being delayed by months from cars to dishwashers to GPUs to to elevator repair. (Our building super said the Otis rep estimated at least 8 weeks for some little control module.) Pretty sure my lunch is also delayed due to chip shortage. | I ordered on exactly 20 Feb and mine says October as of this morning as well. I m going to sleep now wake me in October. | 49 | 3 | 8,475 |
nc9oz9 | 77 | Refresh S X dates updated Apparently someone received an update on their Model X order. Someone on Twitter posted a screenshot that states a delivery date of October now. Apparently they ordered February 20th. https: twitter.com milmilebattery status 1393206651130363906?s=21 | It s frustrating that there isn t a clear explanation for why it s being delayed but everybody can just put their pikachu shocked faces away and look at EVERYTHING that is being delayed by months from cars to dishwashers to GPUs to to elevator repair. (Our building super said the Otis rep estimated at least 8 weeks for some little control module.) Pretty sure my lunch is also delayed due to chip shortage. | What a freaking joke. They already delayed mine by a month. Now they are delaying by four more months? Stupid Tesla | 49 | 4 | 8,476 |
nc9oz9 | 77 | Refresh S X dates updated Apparently someone received an update on their Model X order. Someone on Twitter posted a screenshot that states a delivery date of October now. Apparently they ordered February 20th. https: twitter.com milmilebattery status 1393206651130363906?s=21 | It s frustrating that there isn t a clear explanation for why it s being delayed but everybody can just put their pikachu shocked faces away and look at EVERYTHING that is being delayed by months from cars to dishwashers to GPUs to to elevator repair. (Our building super said the Otis rep estimated at least 8 weeks for some little control module.) Pretty sure my lunch is also delayed due to chip shortage. | I wonder why they re pushing them back so far. Must be a major issue that they re having with the new models. | 49 | 7 | 8,477 |
nchljz | 535 | We need a virtual waiting line for full Super Chargers Just experienced the most wild Super Charger stop to date. I am on a trip that will require at least two charging stops. I get to my first one it shows two open spots. I pull up.. Utter chaos. Apparently 3 of the 10 chargers are not working and it s just a cluster of cars and people trying to figure out what is going on. The chargers are in a busy shopping center so this is causing lots of traffic issues in the parking lot as well. Finally a nice young type A gets out and starts organizing the cars into a line. By the time my turn comes the line is 10 cars deep and multiple unsuspecting Tesla owners try to back into the borked spots only to be approached by the super nice Typs A turned traffic director letting them know where the line is. I only charged enough to get me to the next charger so I don t hold up the line. And here I was being smug about not sitting in gas lines.. Anyways my friend came up with the idea of having a place to add yourself to a virtual queue in the charging screen that would let you know when it s your turn to charge. Bonus feature would show you the names of the cars in line because I would love to see what others have named their cars. At a very minimum there should be signals on the chargers to indicate working vs not working. Someone tweet big E. | More generally I think there should be a full Supercharging Experience in the car. * When you get close the map shows you the facility and where the stalls are located with respect to the hosting business. * As you get to the stalls it zooms in to a stall-by-stall view. Each stall is shown by state: * Out of Order * Occupied * Available but power-limited (e.g. v2 stall sharing power) * Available * Reserved (see below) * If a station is not full ability to tap a stall on the car screen when you re less than five minutes out and mark it Reserved for anyone else. * If a station is full have the ability to join a virtual queue you can get in line when your nav is set for the Supercharger but even if you re at the front you don t actually get a spot until you re on-site or have an ETA under five minutes. UI shows an estimated time-to-available based on cars currently charging. * If you plug up to a Reserved spot you get an onscreen warning no power and begin accruing idle fees after the first minute. * If a spot is Reserved for you and you don t confirm within 1 minute plug in within five minutes you go back into the queue and someone else gets the spot. * Additional ability to detect report broken stalls -- if the car says something is plugged in but the stall disagrees mark the stall as potentially broken the car goes back to the head of the queue and will be reassigned the next open spot. * You can manually mark a stall as ICE d (potentially the car s cameras could eventually do this). In jurisdictions where this is illegal an automated report is sent to local police inviting them to come issue a ticket. However that in itself would be a major software project and the team at Tesla seems to be a bit occupied with other things right now. | I (and others) hang the cable over the top of the charger so it s very visible when one isn t working. | 92 | 6 | 8,478 |
nchljz | 535 | We need a virtual waiting line for full Super Chargers Just experienced the most wild Super Charger stop to date. I am on a trip that will require at least two charging stops. I get to my first one it shows two open spots. I pull up.. Utter chaos. Apparently 3 of the 10 chargers are not working and it s just a cluster of cars and people trying to figure out what is going on. The chargers are in a busy shopping center so this is causing lots of traffic issues in the parking lot as well. Finally a nice young type A gets out and starts organizing the cars into a line. By the time my turn comes the line is 10 cars deep and multiple unsuspecting Tesla owners try to back into the borked spots only to be approached by the super nice Typs A turned traffic director letting them know where the line is. I only charged enough to get me to the next charger so I don t hold up the line. And here I was being smug about not sitting in gas lines.. Anyways my friend came up with the idea of having a place to add yourself to a virtual queue in the charging screen that would let you know when it s your turn to charge. Bonus feature would show you the names of the cars in line because I would love to see what others have named their cars. At a very minimum there should be signals on the chargers to indicate working vs not working. Someone tweet big E. | More generally I think there should be a full Supercharging Experience in the car. * When you get close the map shows you the facility and where the stalls are located with respect to the hosting business. * As you get to the stalls it zooms in to a stall-by-stall view. Each stall is shown by state: * Out of Order * Occupied * Available but power-limited (e.g. v2 stall sharing power) * Available * Reserved (see below) * If a station is not full ability to tap a stall on the car screen when you re less than five minutes out and mark it Reserved for anyone else. * If a station is full have the ability to join a virtual queue you can get in line when your nav is set for the Supercharger but even if you re at the front you don t actually get a spot until you re on-site or have an ETA under five minutes. UI shows an estimated time-to-available based on cars currently charging. * If you plug up to a Reserved spot you get an onscreen warning no power and begin accruing idle fees after the first minute. * If a spot is Reserved for you and you don t confirm within 1 minute plug in within five minutes you go back into the queue and someone else gets the spot. * Additional ability to detect report broken stalls -- if the car says something is plugged in but the stall disagrees mark the stall as potentially broken the car goes back to the head of the queue and will be reassigned the next open spot. * You can manually mark a stall as ICE d (potentially the car s cameras could eventually do this). In jurisdictions where this is illegal an automated report is sent to local police inviting them to come issue a ticket. However that in itself would be a major software project and the team at Tesla seems to be a bit occupied with other things right now. | Fair idea it s been mentioned here before. Although I think their solution would be to just fix the problem by installing more chargers at that and other problem locations. They probably should do both but I don t think they will. Especially because the rumors are that they plan open the chargers up other cars. | 92 | 20 | 8,479 |
nd16f8 | 74 | What would you like to see for future Tesla models? The company s goal is to sell around 20 million vehicles by 2030. That will be almost 20 percent of the global market in new vehicles a higher share than either VW or Toyota has today. There is no way Tesla can accomplish this with the few models they have or have announced as of today (S3XY + CT R S). I m sure they have plans but other than a cheaper car (dubbed Model 2) they haven t really shared anything. So I thought it would be fun to ask this sub what new models you think Tesla should add. A few of my own thoughts below: \\- High Utility Vehicle (angular SUV with modest allusions to CT high clearance for off-roading $50-$80K by 2024) \\- City Cart (even smaller than Model 2 still zippy starting at $20K by 2025) \\- World Truck (smaller version of CT also stainless steel but less radical styling starting $30K by 2026. must be suitable for Europe Africa Asia) | Better shock absorbers (smoother ride) & road noise isolation in all models. | A 4x4 high roof van. Basically the cyber truck with standing hight room with nice swivel captain chairs and an empty interior. with the adjustable suspension. I would never buy another vehicle ever again. | 61 | 2 | 8,480 |
nd16f8 | 74 | What would you like to see for future Tesla models? The company s goal is to sell around 20 million vehicles by 2030. That will be almost 20 percent of the global market in new vehicles a higher share than either VW or Toyota has today. There is no way Tesla can accomplish this with the few models they have or have announced as of today (S3XY + CT R S). I m sure they have plans but other than a cheaper car (dubbed Model 2) they haven t really shared anything. So I thought it would be fun to ask this sub what new models you think Tesla should add. A few of my own thoughts below: \\- High Utility Vehicle (angular SUV with modest allusions to CT high clearance for off-roading $50-$80K by 2024) \\- City Cart (even smaller than Model 2 still zippy starting at $20K by 2025) \\- World Truck (smaller version of CT also stainless steel but less radical styling starting $30K by 2026. must be suitable for Europe Africa Asia) | Better shock absorbers (smoother ride) & road noise isolation in all models. | Way too early to think about this. They have: Cybertruck Semi Roadster Model 2 In the pipeline. If it takes 1 year to ramp up production for each model we are talking about 4 years out already. Ask again in 3 years. | 61 | 2 | 8,481 |
nd16f8 | 74 | What would you like to see for future Tesla models? The company s goal is to sell around 20 million vehicles by 2030. That will be almost 20 percent of the global market in new vehicles a higher share than either VW or Toyota has today. There is no way Tesla can accomplish this with the few models they have or have announced as of today (S3XY + CT R S). I m sure they have plans but other than a cheaper car (dubbed Model 2) they haven t really shared anything. So I thought it would be fun to ask this sub what new models you think Tesla should add. A few of my own thoughts below: \\- High Utility Vehicle (angular SUV with modest allusions to CT high clearance for off-roading $50-$80K by 2024) \\- City Cart (even smaller than Model 2 still zippy starting at $20K by 2025) \\- World Truck (smaller version of CT also stainless steel but less radical styling starting $30K by 2026. must be suitable for Europe Africa Asia) | A minivan for family use. We love the size of our Honda Odyssey when we need more space than our model 3 provides. | A 4x4 high roof van. Basically the cyber truck with standing hight room with nice swivel captain chairs and an empty interior. with the adjustable suspension. I would never buy another vehicle ever again. | 59 | 2 | 8,482 |
nds6di | 66 | Dealing with insurance changing total loss decision I had a collision last month where someone ran a stop and hit the front right of my car disabling the vehicle and hitting it again in the back. Luckily I had the cameras running and sent that to my insurance who declared them at fault that they I also showed the video to law enforcement who issued citations to the opposing party. Originally my insurance sent it to a shop without my consent and they estimated 12 000 in damages I forced them to take it to a tesla certified shop who said there was battery damage and the car was declared a total. They sent me the paperwork and everything for it. They sent a supervisor to the shop who spoke to the manager and they back tracked on the total loss. Now they are claiming it s repairable and that the damage to the battery is superficial. Now they have 12 000 in damages and the suspension. I am going into the shop to check out the damage wensday. I originally saw some message about the battery flash during the accident but I dont know exactly what it was. The shop is also saying it is out of there hands because it s the agent who made the decision. Can anyone give me tips to deal with the insurance? it is progressive. What would make a tesla battery damaged to the point where it needs to be repaired? Is there a site where I can see all of this? I want to be prepared for wensday. I have lawyers involved already because I was injured during the accident and they are tracking whats going on but they are focused much more on the medical side since I was seriously injured. Also it was a progressive vs progressive | Lawyer up. Seriously. You aren t qualified to fight this fight and liability insurance is predicated upon a lawsuit for negligence. | Might be worth going through your insurance for the repair and pay the deductible. | 69 | 3 | 8,483 |
nds6di | 66 | Dealing with insurance changing total loss decision I had a collision last month where someone ran a stop and hit the front right of my car disabling the vehicle and hitting it again in the back. Luckily I had the cameras running and sent that to my insurance who declared them at fault that they I also showed the video to law enforcement who issued citations to the opposing party. Originally my insurance sent it to a shop without my consent and they estimated 12 000 in damages I forced them to take it to a tesla certified shop who said there was battery damage and the car was declared a total. They sent me the paperwork and everything for it. They sent a supervisor to the shop who spoke to the manager and they back tracked on the total loss. Now they are claiming it s repairable and that the damage to the battery is superficial. Now they have 12 000 in damages and the suspension. I am going into the shop to check out the damage wensday. I originally saw some message about the battery flash during the accident but I dont know exactly what it was. The shop is also saying it is out of there hands because it s the agent who made the decision. Can anyone give me tips to deal with the insurance? it is progressive. What would make a tesla battery damaged to the point where it needs to be repaired? Is there a site where I can see all of this? I want to be prepared for wensday. I have lawyers involved already because I was injured during the accident and they are tracking whats going on but they are focused much more on the medical side since I was seriously injured. Also it was a progressive vs progressive | Sorry to hear that. Someone hit me in the rear passenger side a couple of months ago and the initial estimate from Progressive was $7.5K. I brought it to a two shops who quoted $16k and $22.5k without even tearing anything down. I primarily had quarter panel damage. Even with the damage and estimated costs they almost didn t declare it a total loss. I had an SR+. When I started mentioning the time for shipping parts the amount of time for the rental and the fact that I was definitely going to go down the diminished value route the rep pushed it through as a total loss. | Well obviously their insurance wants to repair as cheap as possible. Some might falls for it and accept as is so they ve got nothing to lose. Just ask your attorney about this and they should know how to escalade. | 44 | 2 | 8,484 |
nds6di | 66 | Dealing with insurance changing total loss decision I had a collision last month where someone ran a stop and hit the front right of my car disabling the vehicle and hitting it again in the back. Luckily I had the cameras running and sent that to my insurance who declared them at fault that they I also showed the video to law enforcement who issued citations to the opposing party. Originally my insurance sent it to a shop without my consent and they estimated 12 000 in damages I forced them to take it to a tesla certified shop who said there was battery damage and the car was declared a total. They sent me the paperwork and everything for it. They sent a supervisor to the shop who spoke to the manager and they back tracked on the total loss. Now they are claiming it s repairable and that the damage to the battery is superficial. Now they have 12 000 in damages and the suspension. I am going into the shop to check out the damage wensday. I originally saw some message about the battery flash during the accident but I dont know exactly what it was. The shop is also saying it is out of there hands because it s the agent who made the decision. Can anyone give me tips to deal with the insurance? it is progressive. What would make a tesla battery damaged to the point where it needs to be repaired? Is there a site where I can see all of this? I want to be prepared for wensday. I have lawyers involved already because I was injured during the accident and they are tracking whats going on but they are focused much more on the medical side since I was seriously injured. Also it was a progressive vs progressive | Sorry to hear that. Someone hit me in the rear passenger side a couple of months ago and the initial estimate from Progressive was $7.5K. I brought it to a two shops who quoted $16k and $22.5k without even tearing anything down. I primarily had quarter panel damage. Even with the damage and estimated costs they almost didn t declare it a total loss. I had an SR+. When I started mentioning the time for shipping parts the amount of time for the rental and the fact that I was definitely going to go down the diminished value route the rep pushed it through as a total loss. | Might be worth going through your insurance for the repair and pay the deductible. | 44 | 3 | 8,485 |
nfepbt | 28 | FSD or no right now? Ordering an MY right now. I ve heard there is a subscription coming out. FSD increases my monthly payment by $150. Worth it or no? What s this subscription supposed to look like? Are there too many kinks right now to justify that price? | Don t bother. Not worth $10 000. Maybe the old $5 000 price but the current price for what you get is robbery. I did find a way with inspect element to add EAP for $4 000 to the order config page. Not sure if it would actually submit but would be interesting to try that! | I personally would add it now if you are going to just buy it when city streets FSD has a wider rollout. Baking it into your monthly payment is better than dropping $10K I d say. And Elon has mentioned that the subscription will not be cheaper than buying it outright so you re almost guaranteed to have a better deal this way if you plan on keeping your car for a few years. I personally am a tech nerd so it s fun to have the latest. Some people just don t value that at all and only look at the current feature set which I believe to be incredibly shortsighted. The FSD features on the highway are already really impressive and are nice for long road trips. And it was wild downloading an update to allow my car to stop at stop signs and stoplights. That being said I bought it when it was $6K so it was a no brainer. | 100 | 3 | 8,486 |
nfepbt | 28 | FSD or no right now? Ordering an MY right now. I ve heard there is a subscription coming out. FSD increases my monthly payment by $150. Worth it or no? What s this subscription supposed to look like? Are there too many kinks right now to justify that price? | Don t bother. Not worth $10 000. Maybe the old $5 000 price but the current price for what you get is robbery. I did find a way with inspect element to add EAP for $4 000 to the order config page. Not sure if it would actually submit but would be interesting to try that! | Nobody knows what subs will look like at the moment. I would say no on FSD with its current feature set. Depending on your state you may benefit from buying FSD later with taxes and credit card rewards points. | 100 | 20 | 8,487 |
nfepbt | 28 | FSD or no right now? Ordering an MY right now. I ve heard there is a subscription coming out. FSD increases my monthly payment by $150. Worth it or no? What s this subscription supposed to look like? Are there too many kinks right now to justify that price? | Don t bother. Not worth $10 000. Maybe the old $5 000 price but the current price for what you get is robbery. I did find a way with inspect element to add EAP for $4 000 to the order config page. Not sure if it would actually submit but would be interesting to try that! | I ve got EAP on my model 3 basically all that FSD offers at the moment. I would not buy it again. Basic autopilot is fine. | 100 | 48 | 8,488 |
nfshy7 | 26 | Feature Request: Sentry Mode Classification It would be nice if sentry mode could classify the videos it records into two categories: touched car didn t touch car. I get in the car and have a bunch of sentry mode reports but they re literally just people walking by not even looking at the car. I d be much more interested in knowing whether or they touched the car so I could view the video with an actual purpose beyond watching strangers go about their day. | I would be happy with better scrubbing during sentry video playback | …remote climate control was turned on so alarm went off. | 38 | 8 | 8,489 |
nfshy7 | 26 | Feature Request: Sentry Mode Classification It would be nice if sentry mode could classify the videos it records into two categories: touched car didn t touch car. I get in the car and have a bunch of sentry mode reports but they re literally just people walking by not even looking at the car. I d be much more interested in knowing whether or they touched the car so I could view the video with an actual purpose beyond watching strangers go about their day. | I would be happy with better scrubbing during sentry video playback | What criteria would it use to distinguish between the two scenarios? It s not like there s a car-sized capacitive surface or anything like that. | 38 | 9 | 8,490 |
nfzkq6 | 288 | Can we talk about auto high beams in 21.4.8 please With 2021.4.18 auto high beam can no longer be turned off when cruise control or autopilot is engaged. I ve learned to live with the fact that auto high beams (and auto wipers) are useless and best turned off. Now however I can also no longer use any autonomous features at night because they turn on auto high beam. Let me explain. (Perhaps they work better in the US and simply aren‘t adapted for EU road rules etc so this is purely an European driving experience.) 1. The high beam takes way too long to turn on and off. It blinds other drivers until they flash their headlights more often than not. It stays disengaged when I m alone and it s as dark as it can get. My 2015 Merc did a thousand times better (and also had turning lights - so much for ‚matrix LED‘ in the M3 21). 2. They disengage for no reason such as random reflections lamp posts or street signs. 3. Most importantly: it is illegal to turn on auto high beam inside cities and villages. Now every other manufacturer has this one simple trick - LEAVE THEM OFF WHEN BELOW 60KPH. Tesla? No let me blast that intersection full of pedestrians with the force of a thousand suns. It is a half assed implementation of a very basic feature which has been around for 10 years. And now you can‘t even turn it off. | Look on the bright (pun) side. FSD will be here in 2018 and for sure that will be fixed. #FSDRefundButton | Wow thank you so much for this post. I just got the update and did not install it yet will definitely hold back on software updates now until they revert this change. Auto High Beams are completely useless for me in Germany. | 132 | 13 | 8,491 |
nfzkq6 | 288 | Can we talk about auto high beams in 21.4.8 please With 2021.4.18 auto high beam can no longer be turned off when cruise control or autopilot is engaged. I ve learned to live with the fact that auto high beams (and auto wipers) are useless and best turned off. Now however I can also no longer use any autonomous features at night because they turn on auto high beam. Let me explain. (Perhaps they work better in the US and simply aren‘t adapted for EU road rules etc so this is purely an European driving experience.) 1. The high beam takes way too long to turn on and off. It blinds other drivers until they flash their headlights more often than not. It stays disengaged when I m alone and it s as dark as it can get. My 2015 Merc did a thousand times better (and also had turning lights - so much for ‚matrix LED‘ in the M3 21). 2. They disengage for no reason such as random reflections lamp posts or street signs. 3. Most importantly: it is illegal to turn on auto high beam inside cities and villages. Now every other manufacturer has this one simple trick - LEAVE THEM OFF WHEN BELOW 60KPH. Tesla? No let me blast that intersection full of pedestrians with the force of a thousand suns. It is a half assed implementation of a very basic feature which has been around for 10 years. And now you can‘t even turn it off. | Look on the bright (pun) side. FSD will be here in 2018 and for sure that will be fixed. #FSDRefundButton | Yep... Tesla style! It s more important to make your car fart than fixing these things! Hopefully they will get their product management straight until then we have to live with it... | 132 | 34 | 8,492 |
nfzkq6 | 288 | Can we talk about auto high beams in 21.4.8 please With 2021.4.18 auto high beam can no longer be turned off when cruise control or autopilot is engaged. I ve learned to live with the fact that auto high beams (and auto wipers) are useless and best turned off. Now however I can also no longer use any autonomous features at night because they turn on auto high beam. Let me explain. (Perhaps they work better in the US and simply aren‘t adapted for EU road rules etc so this is purely an European driving experience.) 1. The high beam takes way too long to turn on and off. It blinds other drivers until they flash their headlights more often than not. It stays disengaged when I m alone and it s as dark as it can get. My 2015 Merc did a thousand times better (and also had turning lights - so much for ‚matrix LED‘ in the M3 21). 2. They disengage for no reason such as random reflections lamp posts or street signs. 3. Most importantly: it is illegal to turn on auto high beam inside cities and villages. Now every other manufacturer has this one simple trick - LEAVE THEM OFF WHEN BELOW 60KPH. Tesla? No let me blast that intersection full of pedestrians with the force of a thousand suns. It is a half assed implementation of a very basic feature which has been around for 10 years. And now you can‘t even turn it off. | Look on the bright (pun) side. FSD will be here in 2018 and for sure that will be fixed. #FSDRefundButton | I m still waiting on this update and I m very worried about it for the exact reasons you ve explained. Every now and then I test the auto high beams to see if they re usable yet and every time they are 100% not usable. Remember when software updates used to make your car better instead of worse? Pepperidge farm remembers. First the terrible UI proportions now this. | 132 | 43 | 8,493 |
ng4y33 | 34 | Software Updates I ve had my Model 3 since Fall of 2018 and have always been delighted by the rapid evolution of the software. You could always count on minor releases every few weeks that would as a feature in addition to bug fixes. It feels like that has stopped in 2021. I know that there is a lot of focus on FSD right now but Tesla has multiple software teams all which aren t focused on Autopilot. The next major release v11 was talked about around the holidays but never materialized. We ve since seen some UI leaks in the S X refresh that hint at a big upgrade. I m curious if anyone in the community here has some ideas or awareness of when we might see something? Why the sudden departure from historical patterns? Is the next major release so fundamental that they ve had to code freeze and just do bug updates? | My guess is the focus was all hands on deck on FSD Beta v9 + Software v9 for the Model S + X refresh. | Quality > Toys Make better software not more fart sounds. oh and that 10grand (FSD) I gave you...wtf was it for? | 40 | 4 | 8,494 |
ng4y33 | 34 | Software Updates I ve had my Model 3 since Fall of 2018 and have always been delighted by the rapid evolution of the software. You could always count on minor releases every few weeks that would as a feature in addition to bug fixes. It feels like that has stopped in 2021. I know that there is a lot of focus on FSD right now but Tesla has multiple software teams all which aren t focused on Autopilot. The next major release v11 was talked about around the holidays but never materialized. We ve since seen some UI leaks in the S X refresh that hint at a big upgrade. I m curious if anyone in the community here has some ideas or awareness of when we might see something? Why the sudden departure from historical patterns? Is the next major release so fundamental that they ve had to code freeze and just do bug updates? | My guess is the focus was all hands on deck on FSD Beta v9 + Software v9 for the Model S + X refresh. | And they fucked up the UI in the last HOT Xmas update. I would gladly take the car I bought - literally minutes before that HOT update - locked in. But the car promised ota UPDATES. | 40 | 5 | 8,495 |
ng4y33 | 34 | Software Updates I ve had my Model 3 since Fall of 2018 and have always been delighted by the rapid evolution of the software. You could always count on minor releases every few weeks that would as a feature in addition to bug fixes. It feels like that has stopped in 2021. I know that there is a lot of focus on FSD right now but Tesla has multiple software teams all which aren t focused on Autopilot. The next major release v11 was talked about around the holidays but never materialized. We ve since seen some UI leaks in the S X refresh that hint at a big upgrade. I m curious if anyone in the community here has some ideas or awareness of when we might see something? Why the sudden departure from historical patterns? Is the next major release so fundamental that they ve had to code freeze and just do bug updates? | My guess is the focus was all hands on deck on FSD Beta v9 + Software v9 for the Model S + X refresh. | Assuming there are other software teams working through backlog of features fixes those would probably be targeted for the next major release (v11) as v10 is basically End-of-Life (EOL). | 40 | 6 | 8,496 |
ngxxl7 | 314 | End of Model S delays! You ve seen all the posts there is a launch event coming June 3. I ve had my order since Dec 8th I ve been counting days crying on this reddit and othereise being a first world problem crybaby. But for the small victories I know people have had delivery dates moving all over the place I never had one. Never had a glimmer of hope to keep me optimistic just the sad little - mark at estimated deliver... But today that changed I for the first time got an estimated delivery June 01-30. I know everyone has seen it before but this updated with the tweet this morning and it gives me hope. So don t fucking crush it because this is my dream and I choose to believe 😁 | Any wagers on OP actually receiving by June 30 2021? | No update on mine | 48 | 2 | 8,497 |
ngxxl7 | 314 | End of Model S delays! You ve seen all the posts there is a launch event coming June 3. I ve had my order since Dec 8th I ve been counting days crying on this reddit and othereise being a first world problem crybaby. But for the small victories I know people have had delivery dates moving all over the place I never had one. Never had a glimmer of hope to keep me optimistic just the sad little - mark at estimated deliver... But today that changed I for the first time got an estimated delivery June 01-30. I know everyone has seen it before but this updated with the tweet this morning and it gives me hope. So don t fucking crush it because this is my dream and I choose to believe 😁 | Any wagers on OP actually receiving by June 30 2021? | Hate to burst your bubble but they recently gave me a June 23-30 and then took it away two days later | 48 | 15 | 8,498 |
ngxxl7 | 314 | End of Model S delays! You ve seen all the posts there is a launch event coming June 3. I ve had my order since Dec 8th I ve been counting days crying on this reddit and othereise being a first world problem crybaby. But for the small victories I know people have had delivery dates moving all over the place I never had one. Never had a glimmer of hope to keep me optimistic just the sad little - mark at estimated deliver... But today that changed I for the first time got an estimated delivery June 01-30. I know everyone has seen it before but this updated with the tweet this morning and it gives me hope. So don t fucking crush it because this is my dream and I choose to believe 😁 | Any wagers on OP actually receiving by June 30 2021? | June 1-30…of 2023. You don t know Elon time OP. | 48 | 18 | 8,499 |
nhwidf | 276 | Texas — SB 1728 If you live in Texas contact your representatives to oppose SB 1728. This bill is not about fair road tax it s simply penalizing you for your EV and forcing you to pay more compared to ICE. [https: engage.tesla.com articles 591-texas-sb-1728](https: engage.tesla.com articles 591-texas-sb-1728) | Every year in Texas car owners have to get a state safety inspection before their license tag can be renewed. Just check the mileage of the car and base the tax on that. I think EV owners should be taxed at a reduced rate because the reduction in emissions also reduces the health care costs of various respiratory diseases saving the state money. Is electricity 100% clean in Texas? No but electricity is cleaner and getting cleaner all the time due to increasing investments in renewables. | Why did Elon move there? | 39 | 4 | 8,500 |
nhyiqa | 1,038 | I want to a new Tesla but I do not want to pay for FSD again when I already paid for it once and never received it. How can Tesla justify not offering a transfer option until FSD is actually released? There have to be other like me that want to upgrade to a newer model but are held back by an FSD purchase that we basically have to take the hit on. If I trade in to Tesla they are going to resell the vehicle with FSD priced in anyway so they would have essentially made the money from FSD for that vehicle twice then I have to buy FSD for any new vehicle. It just doesn t make sense to me. They are missing out on the sales of a lot or early adopters who want to upgrade. | My sincere advice is to completely forgo the FSD option for at least the foreseeable future. It sucks to take the loss on the car you already bought but you shouldn t feel pressured to pay for it a second time. First anyone who knows anything about the technology knows that *true* L5 self-driving isn t anywhere near as close as Elon s bullshit would suggest so it s definitely not worth paying for in advance. We ll get there some day and Tesla may be the company to do it but it s not a near-term prospect. Second considering how terrible Tesla has been on maintaining the features they ve already released—auto park smart summon the current Autopilot etc.—it s worth asking if *any* of this is worth more than a couple grand at most. Personally I don t think it is. I refuse to even tempt fate with auto park have never used smart summon for anything other than a party trick and have stopped using NoA because it s so annoyingly stupid with lane changes. My FSD investment has actually gone down in utility since I paid for it in 2020. Even going by the very latest FSD Beta videos this is clearly a technology with years of difficult development ahead and will likely have long tail edge case problems that may take many additional years to solve to the satisfaction of regulators. There s just no sensible reason to pay for something like that once let alone twice. | Yep i suspect it will take folks getting litigious to force their hand on the issue. because demand isn t a problem right now. perhaps if they had a demand problem they d offer incentives like this to trade in and upgrade to a new car | 285 | 7 | 8,501 |
nhyiqa | 1,038 | I want to a new Tesla but I do not want to pay for FSD again when I already paid for it once and never received it. How can Tesla justify not offering a transfer option until FSD is actually released? There have to be other like me that want to upgrade to a newer model but are held back by an FSD purchase that we basically have to take the hit on. If I trade in to Tesla they are going to resell the vehicle with FSD priced in anyway so they would have essentially made the money from FSD for that vehicle twice then I have to buy FSD for any new vehicle. It just doesn t make sense to me. They are missing out on the sales of a lot or early adopters who want to upgrade. | My sincere advice is to completely forgo the FSD option for at least the foreseeable future. It sucks to take the loss on the car you already bought but you shouldn t feel pressured to pay for it a second time. First anyone who knows anything about the technology knows that *true* L5 self-driving isn t anywhere near as close as Elon s bullshit would suggest so it s definitely not worth paying for in advance. We ll get there some day and Tesla may be the company to do it but it s not a near-term prospect. Second considering how terrible Tesla has been on maintaining the features they ve already released—auto park smart summon the current Autopilot etc.—it s worth asking if *any* of this is worth more than a couple grand at most. Personally I don t think it is. I refuse to even tempt fate with auto park have never used smart summon for anything other than a party trick and have stopped using NoA because it s so annoyingly stupid with lane changes. My FSD investment has actually gone down in utility since I paid for it in 2020. Even going by the very latest FSD Beta videos this is clearly a technology with years of difficult development ahead and will likely have long tail edge case problems that may take many additional years to solve to the satisfaction of regulators. There s just no sensible reason to pay for something like that once let alone twice. | They don t care. I hope competition picks up so Tesla may treat its fans and customers better. For me same goes with UI. They ruined the UI and no matter how much you ask they don t care to give you back the old UI. | 285 | 38 | 8,502 |
nhyiqa | 1,038 | I want to a new Tesla but I do not want to pay for FSD again when I already paid for it once and never received it. How can Tesla justify not offering a transfer option until FSD is actually released? There have to be other like me that want to upgrade to a newer model but are held back by an FSD purchase that we basically have to take the hit on. If I trade in to Tesla they are going to resell the vehicle with FSD priced in anyway so they would have essentially made the money from FSD for that vehicle twice then I have to buy FSD for any new vehicle. It just doesn t make sense to me. They are missing out on the sales of a lot or early adopters who want to upgrade. | My sincere advice is to completely forgo the FSD option for at least the foreseeable future. It sucks to take the loss on the car you already bought but you shouldn t feel pressured to pay for it a second time. First anyone who knows anything about the technology knows that *true* L5 self-driving isn t anywhere near as close as Elon s bullshit would suggest so it s definitely not worth paying for in advance. We ll get there some day and Tesla may be the company to do it but it s not a near-term prospect. Second considering how terrible Tesla has been on maintaining the features they ve already released—auto park smart summon the current Autopilot etc.—it s worth asking if *any* of this is worth more than a couple grand at most. Personally I don t think it is. I refuse to even tempt fate with auto park have never used smart summon for anything other than a party trick and have stopped using NoA because it s so annoyingly stupid with lane changes. My FSD investment has actually gone down in utility since I paid for it in 2020. Even going by the very latest FSD Beta videos this is clearly a technology with years of difficult development ahead and will likely have long tail edge case problems that may take many additional years to solve to the satisfaction of regulators. There s just no sensible reason to pay for something like that once let alone twice. | Welcome to my hell. Three and a half years of waiting and I ve received one minor and not particularly great feature for my money. Some people are only a few months away from FIVE YEARS of waiting. Many folks had their entire ownership period come and go without seeing a single feature while they owned the car. My car will be out of warranty soon which is when I would normally get rid of it but because they moved the goalposts in 3 2019 and repackaged stuff while they were at it I ll lose the Enhanced Autopilot features if I don t buy FSD on a new car and I m not gullible enough for reward them for their BS to date so I also can t buy FSD in good conscience again. This is why I didn t buy a Model Y in Q1 like I had planned. There s one lost sale. Taking the above into account and stacking that info with the fact that they lied to us early FSD buyers about getting invites to the early access program and getting priority for software updates I don t see how I can honestly buy another car from Tesla until they make this right. This is why I m no longer planning on buying a Model Y next year to replace our ICE so that s two lost sales in an 18 month period from me alone. The fix is simple: Let us transfer FSD to newly-purchased cars until the features we paid for have been delivered. What they re doing is not substantially different as a concept from taking payment for a physical item and not letting us change the shipping address before it even goes to manufacturing. The real problem is that Tesla simply doesn t give a shit because they have a supply problem not a demand problem. There weren t any cars left on the lots because of customers in our situation deferring new purchases. Will that last if they keep treating customers like trash? Time will tell. | 285 | 99 | 8,503 |
ni1aej | 391 | How much would you like Tesla to add an orange light to the side-view mirror? After reading a post not too long ago about the annoyances of Tesla s current solution to blind spot monitoring I saw a few comments mentioning how other companies have the orange light. I do not yet have a Tesla but am going to get one some time in 2022. The way it was described how it is currently handled sounds not ideal at all. I thought the orange light when a car is currently in your blind spot makes by far the most sense. | Very much so. I d also love rear cross-traffic alert. And top-down 360 degree camera. And good auto-wipers (you can do this easily with a very cheap sensor that the AP1 and earlier Model S used to have). | Don t need it FSD changes lanes for me and when not using it the lane turns red after I turn on my blinker. That said I get annoyed in my wife s car that has the orange mirror light as it lights up when I don t have my blinker on. | 68 | 2 | 8,504 |
ni1aej | 391 | How much would you like Tesla to add an orange light to the side-view mirror? After reading a post not too long ago about the annoyances of Tesla s current solution to blind spot monitoring I saw a few comments mentioning how other companies have the orange light. I do not yet have a Tesla but am going to get one some time in 2022. The way it was described how it is currently handled sounds not ideal at all. I thought the orange light when a car is currently in your blind spot makes by far the most sense. | Very much so. I d also love rear cross-traffic alert. And top-down 360 degree camera. And good auto-wipers (you can do this easily with a very cheap sensor that the AP1 and earlier Model S used to have). | I m usually the first to complain about half-baked Tesla software features but honestly this is one of those features I ve never really seen the value in. Spend literally 1 min (or less!) adjusting your mirrors properly and you ll never have a blind spot to worry about. | 68 | 2 | 8,505 |
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