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Fiat Chrysler To Pay Tesla 2 Billion To Help Meet Emission Targets | Fiat Chrysler Automobiles has said it will pay electric carmaker Tesla close to €2bn to help it meet tough new emissions targets and has reported a 29 per cent drop in first-quarter profits. The company will purchase credits from Tesla to help it hit carbon dioxide goals and avoid large fines in the US and Europe at an estimated cost of €1.8bn. Carmakers across Europe are striving to meet a 2020 EU target of average car CO2 emissions of 95g per kilometre. In 2018 average emissions were 120.5g per kilometre according to data supplier Jato Dynamics. Fiat Chrysler aimed to meet this target without the need for credits from 2022 banking on a strategy of making its own cleaner vehicles as well as hybrid and pure electric models said chief executive Mike Manley. About 80 per cent of FCA s CO2 compliance would come from purchasing credits from Tesla in 2020 falling to around 15 per cent in 2021 as the company s sale of battery and hybrid vehicles grew he said. --Financial Times | 2019-05-04 12:09:23 | 715 | Wait... 2 billion? How is this not HUGE NEWS? They basically just got another capital raise for free! What am I missing? | 2019-05-04 12:51:22 | 349 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,588 |
Anybody has a list of which states have ballot initiative related to Electric Cars? | Was looking at Washington state ballot initiatives and there is one related to EV tax credits or exemptions?? Was wondering if anybody in here had compiled a list maybe u fredtesla did?? | 2016-11-08 01:07:54 | 19 | If not we could probably make one right here. WA does for instance :) | 2016-11-08 01:14:30 | 3 | EV Tax Credit Information | 1,810 |
Tesla hit 51 cents off ATH (all time high) today before it closed at $277.45. | How many of y all came really close to accidentally auto-selling all your TSLA shares? | 2017-03-28 21:40:27 | 24 | No auto-selling here - long haul baby | 2017-03-28 21:52:01 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,870 |
Wishing for multiple waypoints -- low battery notification | I know this has been asked before but any idea when Tesla is going to add waypoints to their navigation system? Ran into some minor trouble with low battery during a college visit trip with my kiddo. Hit the supercharger 60 miles from EIU charged up to 160 miles of range thinking I would have enough to from EIU and the supercharger. Ran into heavy rain and winds but temp was 55F. Wasn t paying full attention to range but noticed range had tanked 80 miles about 2 3rds of the way to the campus. I slowed down to 60Mph (speed limit is 70) but the damage was done. Ended up having to run over to Effingham considerably out of the way to charge back up. Multiple waypoints would have given me some advanced notice that I would not make it back to the supercharger with the conditions I was driving in. Thoughts? | 2018-02-19 16:58:57 | 11 | Or even weather inclusion in the calculation. I don t understand why Tesla can t just use the local weather along the route and show estimated miles based on weather (rain snow temperature wind etc.) | 2018-02-19 17:16:35 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 23,803 |
Buying a Model S soon. Should I wait? | I m going to buy a model s at some point this year. With the model 3 release do you think there will be a refresh soon of the model s to further differentiate from the price gap between the s and the 3? I m debating with myself if I should go ahead and make the jump or if I should wait towards the very end of the year. | 2017-06-24 15:22:27 | 5 | No matter when you buy one there will always be a better version in the next 18 months or so sometimes sooner than that. If you always wait for the next thing you never have anything. If you like what they have now get it. Personally I d be surprised to see a major change on S right now as I would assume they re fairly busy with bringing the Model 3 to production. But you never know. | 2017-06-24 16:24:25 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,141 |
After Enhanced Autopilot is activated could the latest Model S be the highest rated car in EuroNCAP too? [analysis] | EuroNCAP has a lot more breadth in their testing than the NHTSA. Currently the safest car in its class is the 2015 Jaguar XE with **115.6 points**: http: www.euroncap.com en results jaguar xe 22028 Things have changed *a lot* since the original 2014 EuroNCAP testing results gave the Model S **102.3 points**: http: www.euroncap.com en results tesla model-s 7897 ## Adult Occupants * One improvement Tesla gets for free is the absence of an error in the airbag software (which Tesla fixed OTA but was still penalized by EuroNCAP for). From the results page: The passenger compartment remained stable in the frontal impact. Readings from the passenger dummy indicated good protection of all body areas except the head. Analysis of the dummy kinematics showed that the airbag on the passenger side had bottomed out i.e. there was insufficient inflation to prevent the head flattening the airbag and coming into contact with the facia through the airbag material. Tesla investigated the issue and found an error in the airbag calibration software supplied by the vendor. Euro NCAP has been informed that this error has been corrected in all vehicles supplied to customers. *Although the calculated injury parameters were not hazardous protection of the passenger head was penalised and rated as adequate.* Comparing scoring between the Jaguar and the Model S indicates this should be good for **0.4 points**. * Industry-leading AEB City is worth an extra **3 points**. * Pardon my Belgian but how the fuck did the Model S score worse on the pole test than the Jaguar? [Because the video makes the Jaguar look *much* worst than the Model S.](http: imgur.com a kglCZ) Is it just the contours of the door impacting the driver s chest from the side? It s true that the Jag impacts at 32 km hr and the S at 29 km hr but that 22% increase in crash energy doesn t seem to account for it. Let s say Tesla can modify the door slightly to match the Jaguar (hopefully adding door storage in the process...) which is good for **1.4 points**. ## Child Occupants * Tesla didn t receive full points for supporting all the tested child seats because the Römer KidFix was difficult to install -- All of the restraints for which the car is designed could be properly installed and accommodated with the exception of the Group I universal restraint in the rear outboard seats. While the seat could be installed the seat cushioning made engagement of the ISOFIX probes difficult. This is the kind of small revision Tesla does all the time and I would be surprised if it didn t fit acceptably by now. * There s another issue mentioned that could be easily fixed OTA: The front passenger airbag can be disabled through the user menu allowing a rearward-facing restraint to be used in that seating position. However the interface is not clear in all languages about the actions being taken to set the airbag status *and the system was not rewarded.* It s not clear how much this is worth but together with the fix above these changes are good for another **4.2 points.** ## Pedestrian Safety Since it was tested Tesla has redesigned the front fascia lights and trim pieces under the hood. Coincidentally these are exactly the areas the Model S performed poorly in pedestrian safety. * In leg safety the outer 15% on either side performed adequately instead of good. This is the location of the outboard condensor inlets which have been redesigned to allow more flexing. The black plastic lower trim has been removed (the joint previously acting as a reinforcing element limiting flexing) and replaced with a shadow line. Strong and rigid convex compound curves have been softened with the addition of creases and had the curvature reduced in one dimension to move in the direction of blended simple curves (which flex more eg compare the side of an empty aluminum can with the bottom). Annotated comparison here: http: imgur.com a F7zXb * The same strategies for increasing flex -- softening with creases and curve de-compounding -- can be seen below the headlights which performed poorly in pedestrian safety. * The outline of the frunk opening can be clearly seen as a marginal area on the hood in the test results. Tesla has gone through at least two iterations of this part with the clear intent of increasing the hood pedestrian safety. The hard inset recessed frunk edge is replaced with a gentle chamfer. Gone is the plastic upper lid which reduced the crumple distance under the hood. The new frunk liner has only a small horizontal lip at the top reducing the rigidity contributed by an angle iron effect and a simpler outline which lacks the corregations of the original. Even the plastic moulding around the gas strut is split up and softened another area with a marginal score. Annotated comparison pictures: http: imgur.com a AiFMn * Collectively these changes should be good for an additional **6 points**. And of course... ## Safety Assist (AKA Autopilot) This is one area where EuroNCAP is actually behind -- many Autopilot 1.0 safety features aren t even given any points! * When the Model S was first tested it had speed assist and lane assist but no emergency braking or avoidance of any kind. Since Autopilot has all the hardware for autonomous driving it should be able to implement AEB that avoids crashes even at highway speeds. AEB is good for an additional **3 points**. ## Safety features There are a few areas where the Model S is lacking. These are probably the biggest changes as they involve adding features to the car. * **Rear seat belt tensioners.** Many high end cars have this feature (Volvo Jaguar Infiniti etc). Tesla has it in the front but not the rear. This isn t good for points but it would mean that Tesla vehicles would be eligigible for inclusion on EuroNCAP s Best Family Car list. * **Pedestrian Airbags.** Volvo has pioneered an airbag that deploys over the bottom edges of the windscreen and the A-pillar. These are the last remaining poor areas in pedestrian safety on the Tesla. This would potentially be good for another **3-6 points** in pedestrian safety Video: https: www.youtube.com watch?v=X2Aw4eZoijk Even without pedestrian airbags the improvement that are *already done* push the Model S within spitting distance of the top large sedan (114.3 points). Once Enhanced Autopilot is rolled out the new Tesla Model S will **blow the Jaguar XE away** with 120.3 points (remember the Jag got 115.6). TL DR Tesla has the potential to build on its substantial safety accomplishments to make the highest rated car ever tested by EuroNCAP an accolade it has already achieved for NHTSA testing. *edit:* annotated pictures per request | 2016-11-30 09:35:07 | 128 | This is the most r spacex post I ve ever seen outside of r spacex. | 2016-11-30 14:18:13 | 56 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,324 |
Current profit margin on Model S. | I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday who just happens to work for BMW and he was telling me that every Model S sold Tesla is taking a loss on. Is that true? I was under the impression Tesla s profit margin on a Model S was something like 20%-25%. Am I off or is my BMW friend spreading false facts? | 2014-04-25 15:42:56 | 7 | This is public information. http: ir.teslamotors.com secfiling.cfm?filingID=1193125-14-69681& CIK=1318605[1] Tesla s gross margin is 25% but every cent is invested in expansion so after operating expenses they barely make a profit. Sometimes they don t. | 2014-04-25 15:51:28 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,312 |
Harassment from Short Sellers drove WSJ Reviewer Dan Neil to delete his Twitter. | > In what looks like a coordinated attack from Mark Spiegel Montana Skeptic and others Pulitzer Prize winner and Wall Street Journal s auto reviewer Dan Neil [deleted his Twitter account](https: twitter.com danneilwsj) after writing [a glowing review of the Model 3 Performance version](https: www.wsj.com articles first-ever-review-of-the-tesla-model-3-performance-a-thrilling-modern-marvel-1532022533). It appears that short sellers were completely blindsided this week by a combination of the WSJ s review and [Munro s teardown revelations](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=pAS-yjWj9DY). In both the review s comment section and Dan Neil s twitter he was criticized harshly in what presumably looks like a mountain of frustration unleashed by short sellers. Dan Neil being an tough but honest automotive review defended himself in both places. Considering the comment section of any news article can be like the wild west especially in an article like this Dan must ve had a fervent resolve in believing what he wrote. Others even reacted with surprise to his bravery. Still others expressed their support or were positively receptive to his review. > > However today after hours of harassment from short sellers over trivial things like why he hasn t test driven the barely available I-Pace (especially given that this is his first review of the Model 3) Dan Neil deleted his Twitter account. Multiple people have taken note of this including Montana Skeptic who [boomed with pride calling Dan a worshiper ](https: twitter.com MontanaSkeptic1 status 1020426127083491329) (and [Mark B. Spiegal](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc attachments ms-tweet-png.318646 )). This is especially curious as Dan Neil famously bet against Elon Musk that Tesla [wouldn t be able to deliver a practical EV to its customers by the end of 2012](https: www.autoguide.com auto-news 2012 06 auto-journalist-dan-neil-loses-tesla-model-s-bet-writes-1000-check-to-charity.html) the Model S. Upon Tesla fulfilling their promises Dan made good on the friendly bet and donated $1000 to Doctors without Borders. > > But given how haters have been seriously critical over these mysterious Musk Bros attacking anyone who Elon Musk disagrees with on Twitter I felt it was important to bring this to light to a larger audience. In fact it makes me wonder... Are those Musk Bros even Elon fans? Or perhaps it s yet another smear campaign launched by haters. Post thoughts feelings or more information below. **Edit:** [Autonews reporter](http: www.autonews.com staff urvaksh-karkaria) claims that the twitter mob was [responsible for Dan deleting his twitter](https: twitter.com Urvaksh status 1020390138474647553). [Source](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads short-sellers-drove-wsj-reviewer-dan-neil-to-deletion-of-his-twitter.123162 ) . Written by **Pluto** Elons take on the review: [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1020067893222858752](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1020067893222858752) Screenshots of Dans twitter: [1](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc attachments upload_2018-7-21_1-43-20-png.318642 ) [2](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc attachments upload_2018-7-21_1-44-42-png.318643 ) [3](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc attachments upload_2018-7-21_1-45-30-png.318644 ) [Dans twitter](https: webcache.googleusercontent.com search?client=opera& hl=nn& gl=uk& ei=l29SW-WWLsnTvgT42574CQ& btnG=S%C3%B8k& q=cache%3AODENw9SmlDoJ%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fdanneilwsj) (archived) **Edit 2:** Added Mark Spiegals tweet. | 2018-07-20 23:35:47 | 378 | I wonder what the shorts are going to say when the standard version starts getting delivered in numbers. Should be interesting to see how the negatively spin that. | 2018-07-20 23:49:09 | 91 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 7,494 |
[Meta] Daily vs. Monthly Megathreads | Hey all We re always trying to make this place better. I know it s not perfect and has its quirks but I d love to see if something can be done. We tried weekly and monthly... but never tried Daily. u Dr_Pippin suggested a Daily Discussion thread. I *really* like the idea as I see this in other common subs I go to (and will actively participate in). Do you think we could benefit from a Daily Discussion thread for questions and experiences over the Monthly ones along with topics of the day... This way... if someone s question isn t answered (cause the megathreads are less active) that a daily thread would likely be more active and someone could post their question again? And the next day would be a fresh start. I really think this could work. Could also work for everything noted in the Experience threads too... **Edit**: Based on great initial feedback we will try this out (beginning Saturday morning) the monthly Q& A Investor and Experience threads will pause (meaning not post on Aug 1st). Give the two new Daily Discussions (Titles below) a shot. See the older Active Megathread Links Sticky [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 80wbgi active_megathread_links ) if you re looking for July s monthly threads. ------------------- **Tesla Daily Discussion** - Temporary trial test replacing the Q& A and Experiences monthly megathreads and for topic of the day discussions. Will replace the top sticky daily. With an easy search link to the latest Investor Thread inside. Sort suggested: New. **$TSLA Daily Investor Discussion** - Temporary trial test replacing the Investor bi-weekly megathreads. Will replace the bottom sticky daily. Sort suggested: New. Will try daily for a full week first. Please leave feedback within those respective threads when they post (or here in the short term). Let me know what you think... I have already made multiple changes and refinements. The nice thing is will see those differences the very next day. :) p.s. **300 000 SUBSCRIBERS!!** | 2018-07-27 21:23:13 | 34 | Yes especially with the increasing volume of Q& A | 2018-07-27 21:34:19 | 17 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 25,086 |
Hpwc not working after car update? | My car was charging when the software update started. I got the alert on my phone that charging was interrupted. Now my hpwc won t show any lights at all and doesn t seem to be responding at all. I ve turned on and off the breaker I ve held down the reset button but nothing worked. Any ideas what might be the issue? I ve confirmed that the hpwc does have power going to it. | 2016-11-03 00:18:14 | 8 | So no it s what caused the issue but all i did was lift the dip switch up and back down and it started working again. Super strange | 2016-11-03 00:56:18 | 2 | Tesla charging port locking | 8,691 |
for those that stretched to buy a Tesla: was it worth it? | I m not talking about the people that would ve normally been in the market for a 7 series BMW. I m referring to the people that normally would be going for 50k cars that busted the budget so to speak to get a Tesla. By just browsing around I ve read about plenty of sub 100k income people buying one and was curious how that has played out for anyone here in that category. | 2014-09-02 21:26:24 | 69 | I ll be honest it was more car than I probably can justify. My income is okay but I don t drive much so the value per dollar spent for me is really low. Does that make sense? I ve NEVER had a car payment before but the 2% interest rate and buyback guarantee siren song called my name. Now I have a $16XX car payment which is not ideal. I do think about the other things I could do with that money (mostly save it) but then I always go back to the fact that life is short the car is sweet and I enjoy it the miles I do drive. The funny thing is my first month I drove 3k miles which is about five months of normal driving for me. I am always finding excuses to drive places now. I may even start ubering just for fun. | 2014-09-02 22:58:08 | 57 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,376 |
Impressed again and again. | I was just away for just over 2 weeks parked my model X in an underground lot with about 63%. Upon arrival back my battery was at 50%. I expected more loss over a 15 day period. Further to that at the supercharger I was charging at 117+34 it was making a humming sound I have never heard before while charging and I got from 6% to 45% in about 15 mins. 3 others at an 8 stall. Again surprised. Is this normal or has there been some changes in the battery and charging systems? Model X 100D.... Furthermore super chargers getting busy! I m glad to see it s all coming to fruition! | 2018-04-14 01:18:33 | 39 | Humming at the supercharger is your cooling fans the louvers open and the fans crank themselves up to high when you re really charging at a good pace. | 2018-04-14 06:29:13 | 17 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 9,580 |
New M3 was hit while parked. What do I need to know? | So a long-ish story short the car was hit in a hit and run while parked seems perfectly driveable but has a decent amount of damage to the driver quarter panel rear rim (not bent but scratched to hell) and rear bumper. Insurance has been great so far but their preferred body shops don t work on Teslas. There aren t any Tesla body shops in LA so I m going to take it to a Tesla partner shop and insurance said that shouldn t be an issue. I ve never needed body work to this degree done so what do I need to know? Does Tesla still give loaners if parts are back ordered? Are there still long waits for M3 parts? Should I try to get diminished value or anything like that from my insurance? Any help or advice would be appreciated! | 2019-04-28 14:21:19 | 9 | Two resources to find Tesla (approved) body shops: 1- https: www.tesla.com support body-shop-support 2- https: tesla-body-shops.glitch.me | 2019-04-28 14:26:57 | 9 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 13,807 |
Used a tool balancer to keep my charger cord off the ground. | Didn t want to wind up my cord all the time so I decided to use a tool balancer to keep the cord off the ground and be able to retract it in and out without any effort. FYI the cord weighs about 4 lbs. Photos: [https: imgur.com a wxHDXpK](https: imgur.com a wxHDXpK) This it the balancer I bought: Reelcraft Industries TB-05 Tool Balancer I found a used one on ebay for $20. | 2019-07-04 05:20:50 | 7 | I have to ask why not switch the cars? That looks like an accident waiting to happen... | 2019-07-04 05:31:29 | 29 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,925 |
What can we do to get Tesla allowed in Texas? What do we need to do to get it so that we don t have to jump through hoops to make it mine? | If you came here for a definitive answer I don t have one. I want to help fight this. I want a Tesla and don t want to have to jump through [so many hoops](http: www.teslamotors.com advocacy_texas) just to get this damn car. I want this car so bad and so do many others. Here is a spreadsheet of some 2014 Texas Government officials that I could find. I should be updating this until it is filled out. Maybe we can tweet them a lot and bug them to change this. maybe even do a hashtag like \#texasfortesla or something. idk. I just want to get the conversation going. I don t want to be in one of the 3 states that are being fuck-ups about this. position | Bar | twitter | phone --------|---|-------|----- Govener | Rick Perry | @GovernorPerry | (512) 463-1782 Lieutenant Gov | david Dewhurst | @DavidHDewhurst | 512 463-0001 Attorney General | Greg Abbott | @GregAbbott_TX | (512) 463-2100 Comptroller public accnts | Susan Combs | @SusanCombs | 512-327-3345 commissioner general land | Jerry Patterson | @Patterson4TX | (512) 476-2014 commissioner Ag | Todd Staples | @Todd_Staples | (512) 912-1603 commissioner railroad | David Porter | @DavidPorterRRC | 512-463-7131 commissioner railroad | Christi Craddick | @ChristiCraddick | idk commissioner railroad | Barry T Smitherman | @SmithermanTX | idk cheif justice supreme court of texas | Wallace B Jefferson | idk | idk justice supreme court of Tx pl 1 | Don R Willett | Don R Willett | @JusticeWillett Same pl 5 | Same pl 5 | nathan hecht | @NathanLHecht | idk same pl 6 | jeffrey s boyd | @JeffBoydTX | idk judge court of criminal appeals PL 2 | tom price | @RepTomPrice | idk i fit what i could find on there. I know it s not everybody but it is a big group of people. What should we do? | 2014-10-20 06:00:32 | 25 | I live in Austin and took delivery two weeks ago. | 2014-10-20 06:30:24 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,556 |
Summon fails to crest a small lip in the garage | Does anyone else have this issue? I have a small lip where the concrete floor of the garage is slightly higher than the asphalt of the driveway. The car will get up to the lip just barely make it over and then give up and stop. Most times it just rolls back down when all it needed was an extra little juice to make it another millimeter. If this is still an issue when the weather breaks (hopefully they release an update where the feature won t be so timid about rolling over small things) I suppose I could try to add some asphalt to make the lip more of a ramp but just wondering if anyone else has run into this. | 2016-01-19 20:06:15 | 11 | There have been many such reports. My hypothesis is that it s a feature not a bug: Summon **must** fail to crest a person s foot or a small sleeping pet. | 2016-01-19 20:48:51 | 14 | Issues with Smart Summon | 17,924 |
Tesla Model 3 12V outlet always on -- according to Bjorn Nyland | I just saw a video from Teslabjorn where he mentions that the 12V outlet under the console in the Model 3 is an always-on outlet. [https: youtu.be hD8\_cStMJ5E?t=2m47s](https: youtu.be hD8_cStMJ5E?t=2m46s) Over the years there have been various hacks to get an alway-on power supply in Tesla cars but if this is true for the 3 it s a pleasant surprise. I wonder if this is true for the US as well or just in Norway or Europe. Can anyone confirm? | 2019-04-30 01:48:35 | 14 | On my 2018 Model 3 LR the 12V outlet turns off when the car goes to sleep. | 2019-04-30 01:59:00 | 18 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 19,065 |
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FYI: My Model S got towed but the car s location in the mobile app didn t change | I learned something this weekend. I missed a no overnight parking sign and my Model S got towed. However in the mobile app my car s location never changed. It still showed the car was located where I parked it. I open and closed the roof vent turned on off the HVAC but the location never updated. I eventually managed to find out which towing company took my car and get my car back. No noticeable damage. Interestingly the car alarm on my Model S never went off. | 2018-08-13 21:39:46 | 56 | Can confirm. Tweet Elon. | 2018-08-13 22:21:57 | 47 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,313 |
Somebody needs to fix these things [](#tesla) so they re in line with the text. | Somebody needs to fix these things [](#tesla) so they re in line with the text. I mean I like that I can talk about the Model [](#e) and put in the proper 3 bars but the baseline is way too high so it looks messed up! The badge logo looks fine though. [](#logo) Maybe a little big. | 2016-02-16 18:19:54 | 14 | While mods are at it they should lost the black text for those of us surfing with RES and a dark theme. | 2016-02-16 19:19:39 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,575 |
New owner FYI about supercharging Issues. | It wasn t mentioned at my delivery. During a trip this weekend on my return I had to use a Supercharger. The supercharger was charging at a super slow pace and with a quick bit of googling it was recommended to try a different stall but in my case nothing helped and there was only 1 other car charging in this 8 stall set up... I spoke to my DS today because it was at his location and he said that anytime this happens (rare according to him) call Roadside Assistance because they can provide real time feedback for any supercharger location.. I wasn t aware of this and just sharing the info. | 2016-10-03 15:19:04 | 78 | Every supercharger stall *should* have the roadside assistance number printed on it and they re very quick to help. Had similar happen on a road trip - it was about a 2 minute conversation: * Explain the slow charging * Agent will ask what supercharger location (Usually whatever town you re in if in doubt go by what the GPS screen tells you) and stall you re at (Usually printed on the bottom of the stall) * Agent confirms your vehicle ( I see a Model S P85? ) * Agent tells you what the problem is and what to do about it. ( Oh yeah we see a couple reports on that stall already and it s already scheduled for repair sorry for the trouble. We see there s only one other person charging there try 3A or 3B instead ) * They ll stay on the line while you move and confirm you re good to go | 2016-10-03 15:42:49 | 46 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 13,964 |
Unable to login to Google Services from Tesla Browser for several weeks (browser not secure message) | I ve been unable to access Gmail and YouTube YouTubeTV for several weeks now. We it if the blue I was asked to re-authenticate and since that time we be been getting a message that I could not sign in because my browser may not be secure. See image https: imgur.com gallery KVOXY7u This leaves me unable to use YouTubeTV while charging or during my lunch break when I don t feel like socializing with anyone. I didn t have any 2 factor authentication enabled and have tried toggle various security options on my google account to no avail. Anyone else been in the same boat and been able to remedy the issue? | 2020-01-06 01:29:53 | 25 | https: support.google.com accounts answer 6010255?hl=en is what you have to disable to allow it to work basically have to allow “unsecure” website login | 2020-01-06 01:38:53 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,677 |
Another Reason to Hate Dealers | https: i.imgur.com eA1UB6F.jpg | 2015-08-03 12:22:24 | 6 | How do you know he s a dealer? | 2015-08-03 12:37:20 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,542 |
Miss my AP..... | When I took delivery of my Model S it had a cosmetic flaw on a quarter panel. They asked me to bring it in a few weeks and they would fix or replace it. In that time I fell in love with AP and my car in general then finally got the notice to bring it in. I took it in a little over a month ago and it took them over 3 weeks to fix the quarter panel. I might add that in that time they let me borrow a P100D Model X which the family loved and was quite awesome. When I got it back I tried to use AP and got a notice in the dash that says Cruise Control Disabled . My car also wasn t finding lane markers. This means I also can t use TACC. After several reboots didn t fix it I took back to the SC and they pulled the logs. What happened was that when they got the car back from the body shop they noticed a cosmetic flaw on the front camera module. They replaced that camera but replaced it with a 2.0 camera (my car has AP 2.5). The car does the check in the AP hardware and disables all AP related functionality when it detects the wrong firmware version on the replaced camera module. They told me they ordered a new module but that they are out of stock and they have no ETA on the replacement but it may be months.... The car is still amazing and I actually had a fun experience recently driving across TX where I found a full supercharger station in Columbus and got to visit with several other Tesla owners for a while (this is not normal in TX!). I guess I just wanted to rant but I do miss my AP and the TACC. Still love driving the future though! Tesla does need to work on their part tracking and post-work test procedure though. If they had tried to do anything AP related in my car they would have seen the issue. Seems like they would have done that considering they replaced a camera module.... Edit: got a good news call today - they were able to get a replacement via an escalation and I will have AP on Friday! | 2017-11-28 16:23:14 | 38 | Give the car back. Get a loaner while they repair AP. | 2017-11-28 16:49:57 | 29 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,493 |
Mobile Service Issues for Key Fobs? | Good afternoon My 17 Model S with AP 2.5 had a key stop working. Despite changing batteries and trying steps in online guide I couldn t fix it. I scheduled mobile service no big deal right? The technician arrived right on time. He spent 2.5 HOURS trying to fix it set the car alarm off countless times (getting me calls from neighbors) and then came back to tell me that not only could he not program a new key fob he managed to break the functioning fob. He said he d have to come back another day to try again. Am I crazy pants in that this should have been an easy repair? Am I going to be expected to pay for a repair that crippled my car and is forcing me to take Lyft to make doctors appointments? I ve historically only heard great things about mobile service but right now I m far from sold.... | 2020-06-09 00:27:18 | 8 | I had to go through something similar. I had two key fobs added and I was at one of the best service centers in the US. It took like 4 hours. It seems the pairinf isn t just a simple bluetooth connection. It is also writing to some server database with an ultra slow connection and then multiple levels of validations occurring. They also preemptively took care of an issue or two while I was there. I am curious about the pipeline they must be using. | 2020-06-09 02:15:30 | 3 | Model 3 phone key issues | 11,516 |
Fun Fact: There are now 300 Tesla showrooms compared to 500 Apple stores. Tesla has sure come a long way. | > During Q2 we opened 29 new store and service locations bringing us to a total of 300 locations globally. Ahead of scaling deliveries for Model 3 we have also broadened our distribution capabilities with the launch of new delivery hubs. We are also continuing to expand our service capability and build out our Supercharger network to achieve our goal of doubling the number of connection points in 2017. [Source](http: files.shareholder.com downloads ABEA-4CW8X0 4921143671x0x952053 F302D22F-FC9B-41A3-9534-60D0032673CC TSLA_Update_Letter_2017-2Q.pdf) | 2017-08-03 20:29:46 | 307 | That is a fun fact. | 2017-08-03 20:41:30 | 39 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,056 |
Autopilot crash: Tesla diagnostic vs competitor | The recent report of NTSB brought to my attention how many data Tesla can access in the minutes before the accident. Going 37 minutes back knowing how many seconds the hands were on the wheel brake activation changes in cruise control ... All of that seems really a lot to me. I was wondering if this is something that only Tesla can do at this level of precision or if also other car manufacturers have the same ability. If a Mercedes (Volvo BMW...) crashes is it possible for Mercedes (Volvo BMW...) to know details about speed cruise control brake activation ... in the minutes before the accident? Is it possible that many deadly accident already happened using Mercedes Volvo Audi... with ADAS active but nobody knows because there are no data to know it? | 2017-06-21 13:23:51 | 29 | Event data recorders (EDRs) have been in vehicles for decades now. It s not unique to Tesla. [Ford started including them in 2000](https: www.theglobeandmail.com technology black-box-shows-car-crash-data article1136839 ). GM started in 1994. The level of detail and the sensor inputs will vary but the data is used for forensics all the time. There are [companies that specialize in analyzing the data](http: www.crashforensics.com automobiledatarecorders.cfm) and debates have sprung up about the privacy issues -- with some going as far as [disabling them](https: www.lifewire.com finding-turning-off-cars-black-box-534841). > Is it possible that many deadly accident already happened using Mercedes Volvo Audi... with ADAS active but nobody knows because there are no data to know it? No. Any vehicle with advanced tech like ADAS would have an EDR with thorough logging. | 2017-06-21 14:11:45 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,539 |
Smart summon feature request: waypoints (or draw route) for overriding proposed rou | Self explanatory but it would also help the system learn if we can explicitly give human feedback to the route on satellite map. Point A to B often requires going through C D and E so often it either doesn t choose a valid or optimum route or goes a weird way through a single open parking space to cut through instead of going to the aisle even if it originally plotted its course through the aisle. Looking forward to the updates. Edit: awesome title. You don t propose new rou ? You know what they say new rou new you! | 2019-10-16 21:59:18 | 73 | Draw route would be a good feature to let Tesla train against and to let us use the feature without worrying that it s going to block an intersection for 5 minutes. Basically Tesla could compare the path the car plans versus the path the user draws and offer differences back to Tesla for investigation. | 2019-10-16 22:25:36 | 12 | Issues with Smart Summon | 17,337 |
Will Model X have same range as Model S? | With the Model X being AWD with two motors will they make a bigger battery to keep the range the same or are they expecting to get the same range on a heavier less aero vehicle? | 2014-04-07 01:27:28 | 9 | Tesla s website only says the Model X will be available in 60kWh and 85kWh options. I think it is safe to speculate it will have less range than comparable Model S s. But exactly how much range you ll lose is anyone s guess until we see a production Model X. It s pretty safe to say you ll see over 200 miles real world range out of the bigger pack since that seems to be Tesla s benchmark for a successful EV. I personally hope no more than 10% range is lost so around 240 miles compared to the Model S s 265. | 2014-04-07 01:36:00 | 10 | Tesla Model Comparison | 23,625 |
Possible to install charger in outdoor parking lot (California) | I m moving from NY to LA this month and strongly considering purchasing a Model 3 there. My current situation is that I have an apartment with a parking spot right next to the apartment s meters (small 8 apartment complex). Apparently there is a California law to allow tenants to add EV charging to their apartment if they write a formal letter request but the law says nothing about if I pay for installation if its considered my property. I got one quote that was only $200-$300 if there s breaker space to install it. Or would I be better off treating my Tesla like a gas car and plugging it in once a week at the supercharger or other public chargers? Has anyone attempted something like this in LA before? I really don t want to buy another gas car that I d be stuck with for 4-5 years. | 2019-04-05 19:10:08 | 5 | Definitely don t treat it like a gas car. Most of the joy from owning an electric car is having it charged every morning when you wake up. Plus supercharging as your main charger would degrade your battery faster and could even make your battery permanently charge slower. I know nothing of the laws in LA but it s worth a shot! | 2019-04-05 19:14:21 | 12 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 15,368 |
First post in r teslamotors | I was so happy yesterday. I finally became a shareholder. I can t wait for the day I become a Tesla owner. However my wife sent me this first thing this morning: COMPANY NEWS Tesla shares are trading lower this morning after the company ratcheted down current year guidance by 5 000 vehicles. Operational issues related to the new model X which is produced at the same plants as the model S have slowed down the assembly line. They also lowered expectations for the 2016 weekly run rate. I m a little upset. But hey I just bought another share! Here s to a speedy upswing! | 2015-08-06 14:04:48 | 5 | Welcome to owning Tesla stock. If you re not comfortable with 30% price swings you re in the wrong place ) | 2015-08-06 14:34:40 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,731 |
Date changes on all orders? | I finalized my P3D a few days ago and it was still on track for August-October delivery. Today though it says September-November. It looks like all models are now estimated at 2-4 months. Is this happening for everyone who already had an order placed but no VIN yet? | 2018-07-25 16:14:34 | 6 | For context I ordered May 23 and was told 12-16 weeks (which would be late August early September). Then it adjusted after the site updated to Sep-Nov. Then I got a VIN yesterday. (AWD non P Day 1 line waiter non owner.) So the estimate is still useless. | 2018-07-25 16:40:32 | 8 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 4,846 |
Follow up to the email I previously posted | Here s the follow up: * http: imgur.com GTMCc7V In reference to: * [original post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6swyve what_would_you_do ) * [electrek.co article](https: electrek.co 2017 08 11 tesla-model-3-reservation-holders-federal-tax-credit-model-s-upgrade ) * [jalponik article](http: jalopnik.com tesla-buyers-say-they-re-being-pushed-to-get-a-model-s-1797897048) | 2017-08-16 20:37:37 | 17 | Take that overnight appointment. Get a car to drive around for a night sounds fun. | 2017-08-16 21:37:00 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,801 |
[Discussion] How Tesla Can Appease the Masses | With the recent price drops and expanded offerings many (not all) of those that bought in 2018 and early 2019 feel a bit let down compared to those who were able to order a new Model 3 on 2 28 19 at 2p PST. Here s what I feel Tesla could do to help please most folks though they don t necessarily have to. This is based on what they currently had enabled as of yesterday s $35k announcement. * No EAP: Offer AP for no charge * EAP but no FSD: Offer FSD for no charge * EAP and FSD: Offer free lifetime supercharging As mentioned Tesla doesn t have to do any of this to make anyone whole but it would be a great goodwill gesture and solidify their position. | 2019-03-01 21:47:42 | 91 | The board of directors and the shareholders don t like it when you give expensive products away for free. Especially when you don t have to. & #x200B Tesla can t really get into the habit of giving a bunch of free stuff away every time they make a price change. They ve already established too much of a dangerous precedent and it doesn t get cheaper as there are more and more cars in the wild. | 2019-03-01 22:16:57 | 101 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,394 |
Custom start-up sound? | Any chance Tesla will allow custom start-up sounds? It is nice the seamless start when you enter and being silent is nice. But it would just be a cool feature to have a nice scif-fi like power on hmmm added for users would want it :-) | 2014-07-07 21:52:00 | 8 | I would put in an engine start up sound just to fuck with myself. | 2014-07-08 05:49:52 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,330 |
I just can t take the acceleration of a P90D! | So a couple of days ago I finally had the chance to test drive a Model S. After 3 5 hours of public transport (don t have a car) I was greeted by a Tesla employee at a supercharger and took the wheel of a red Model S P90D with black turbine wheels. I had driven an electric B-Class and electric Smart before but the sensation of rolling off the parking lot in silence still stunned me. After some pleasant driving around the countryside and testing the Autopilot the Tesla employee asked me to turn into a quiet straight road and stop in the middle of it. He turned the car s performance up from 70D to P90D activated ludicrous mode told me to put my head against the headrest and punch the accelerator. So I did. I had driven quick cars before including some very torquey diesels and a 911 Carrera. But this was nothing like that. The acceleration was so devastating. It came on so violently. There was no build-up at all. The car didn t need to prepare like ICE cars do it just exploded forwards. I felt genuinely nauseous my eyes hurt and the force with which I was pressed into my seat made it hard to breathe. I didn t even make it to 100km h (~62mph) I let off the accelerator pedal at about 80km h (~50mph) because I just couldn t take it any longer. – Me: OMG THIS IS TERRIBLE – Tesla Guy: Terribly great? – Me: NO JUST TERRIBLE After that my foot shook like hell so we put the car back into 70D mode and I let Autopilot drive me through the region in a pleasant non-ludicrous way. So now I know that when the time comes to configure my Model ≡ I won t have to go for any kind of performance upgrade. Just a big battery please. | 2016-09-03 08:35:33 | 91 | You know you don t have to push all the way down on the go pedal or enable ludacris mode unless you want to. Though I ve never heard of anybody not enjoying the acceleration. Maybe some of it is due to you not being used to driving since you don t have a car. Edit: Dangit I knew I spelled ludicrous wrong oh well | 2016-09-03 09:05:04 | 41 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,924 |
Does Model X qualify for full business use tax deduction? | Specifically wondering if it qualifies under Sec 179D as a vehicle over 6 000lbs. I know some Range Rover s and Escalades qualify. Does the X? If so please help me understand how. Thanks! | 2016-02-07 16:40:36 | 15 | 6 000 lbs is gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) and yes the Model X exceed it. | 2016-02-07 16:54:41 | 6 | EV Tax Credit Information | 5,334 |
Will the new Solid White coming in July 2019 be multicoat? | Back in the fall of 2016 Tesla removed several paint options including the base paint option Solid White . If I remember well the explanation we got back then was that white needed to be multicoat to come out OK (see Teslavangelist video linked below). Do you think the 2019 Solid White option will also be a multicoat? Or was it a BS excuse back then to push people toward the Pearl White option? Teslavangelist Oct 29 2016: [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=GimQI75Kwfs](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=GimQI75Kwfs) | 2019-06-22 23:27:21 | 5 | Nope | 2019-06-22 23:29:50 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,714 |
IDEA: AP 2.0 to scan all plates and assist with Amber alerts | I was thinking that since the new autopilot hardware (possibly even current hardware as well) will be able to scan its surroundings (like speed limit signs) it would be really useful if you could also scan license plates and alert authorities when Amber alerts are issued in your area. The entire tesla fleet can actively monitor its surroundings via driver opt-in. I could see this being abused by authorities and possibly an invasion of privacy but if my auto pilot hardware could save one kidnapped child wouldn t that be worth it? | 2016-11-09 02:18:46 | 5 | > I could see this being abused by authorities and possibly an invasion of privacy but if my auto pilot hardware could save one kidnapped child wouldn t that be worth it? no. Think of the children is not an excuse to invade privacy | 2016-11-09 02:33:26 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,348 |
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What s the most ridiculous thing the public thinks about your Tesla? | I was at a local store over the weekend and waiting in line. Someone noticed I had a Tesla and they began asking questions and were curious. Others joined in and this is when I realized the public just doesn t understand Tesla. Some of the ridiculous things I was asked: 1- “What happens if there s no sun that day?” 2- “What happens when you run out of gas?” 3- “So it doesn t have any gas?” 4- “Have you slept in the backseat while driving?” Update: I m absolutely blown away by the amount of responses and the nonsense many of us have endured. Many of your response have made me literally lol. After reading these I feel mankind is doomed. 🤣 Thank you for your belief in Tesla as well. | 2022-03-07 12:44:06 | 1,250 | Yeah the most common one I get is what happens if you run out of battery on the side of the road? Is somebody gonna bring you a bucket of ELECTRICITY??? But like I ve been driving every day for over 15 years and I ve never once run out of gas. So leaving the house every day with full range and having a car that will navigate itself to charging stations along routes means I ll probably never have that problem in my Tesla either. | 2022-03-07 13:26:57 | 958 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,925 |
Ludicrous mode is inconsistent? | Hello Reddit -- from time to time I ll show off ludicrous mode to people who are uninitiated with Tesla s and how other-worldly an electric vehicle can be. I have a P90D MX. Oddly for me sometimes ludicrous feels ludicrously fast and other times its still fast but doesn t have the throw you to the back of your seat feeling. Why is that? I ll monitor it more closely over the next few days as I d like to try this by myself. I am on the Ludicrous setting sometimes with Max Battery (sometimes without) sometimes with the air condition (sometimes without) and the battery usually always has around 200 miles of charge left. In every case I m starting at 0 the wheel s straight and I put the pedal to the floor. Should I feel an inconsistency? And how can I get it so that the acceleration is really the best it can be? (without using Launch mode). | 2017-09-05 04:47:29 | 10 | Might be state of charge (SOC). At lower SOC the car has less power than at high nearly full state of charge. | 2017-09-05 07:20:37 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,174 |
Under-reported limitation of the MX in winter - washer fluid reservoir size | Been driving in winter conditions up here in the snowy north. Road salt sleet and just general dirt is flung onto the windshield at an alarming rate. I am constantly washing the windshield. I have gone though 3 jugs of 4L fluid in the past couple of weeks. Observation: The reservoir is tiny. It only fits one jug. With a windshield that size and the amount of fluid that has to be used in winter you would think that the reservoir would have been designed to hold more juice. rant off (But I still love my MX) | 2018-01-06 21:15:39 | 17 | Today I learned some cars take more than a jug of wiper fluid. | 2018-01-07 00:24:37 | 42 | Tesla Model 3 Wiper Concerns | 21,689 |
Twin Charger option.... Quick Question. | So I have an almost daily ritual of using the online configuration to build the Model S I would want. I noticed today that suddenly there is an option to add the twin chargers for $1500 ($3500 after delivery). I was previously under the impression that cars that came with supercharging enabled also had the twin chargers installed. Now It seems like it is an additional add on to the supercharging feature which seems odd. Furthermore I have a tab open on my browser to the configuration page open from last week. The twin charger option is not on there. If I open a new tab the option is there below the supercharger option. This is for all battery and performance versions. So is it possible to have the supercharging option added but only be able to charge at 40 amps? Or is this just a glitch on the website that needs to be fixed? It does add $1500 to the price and it seems pointless to have the supercharging feature enabled but have to wait twice as long for it to fill up. I ve been toying around on the configuration site for a few weeks now and the twin charger option was never there. Edit: I think I see the difference now. On my old build page from last week it seems like the price of the High Power Home Charger included the price of the twin chargers. The price went from $2700 down to $1200. The dual charger is now an option at $1500. TL DR The Dual chargers used to be combined with the High Powered Wall Connector for a price of $2 700. It is now a separate option making the wall charger now $1 200 and the Dual Charging capability $1 500. | 2014-03-24 16:14:56 | 9 | Twin Chargers and Supercharges are different things. The twin chargers come into effect when charging from a traditional AC source. Twin chargers only make a difference if you have the High power home charger or jury rig your own more than 40 amp input. For the majority of drivers I am going to assume that the twin chargers is overkill. I charge with a NEMA 14-50 outlet daily and twin chargers would do nothing to make that any faster. Supercharging is done through a DC connection. That means that the chargers are bypassed and the battery can be charged much faster because you do not need to convert from AC to DC. TL DR: I have a car with only one charger but can use superchargers just as fast as anyone else. | 2014-03-24 16:42:40 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,545 |
[Discussion] Ceramic Tinting | I have been talking to somebody about ceramic tinting for my Model 3. He said that he carries American Standard Window Film excel irp and suntek cir. Does anybody have experience with either? Is one better than the other or stay away from both? Also I was told ceramic is the way to go but if anybody can recommend something different (better?) Thank you. | 2018-07-04 05:18:48 | 12 | Photosync | 2018-07-04 05:52:08 | 6 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 24,244 |
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AMA Request: Bjørn Nyland | From his [hours of helpful videos](https: www.youtube.com user bjornnyland) to being the well-deserved [first to 10 referrals](http: www.teslarati.com bjorn-nyland-first-winner-tesla-referral-program ) to his recent [record breaking mileage](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 3ib3d7 bj%C3%B8rn_nyland_world_record_p85d_driving_7287_km ) this guy is basically a Tesla living legend. Would you ask him u Ko_deZ? | 2015-08-26 15:06:40 | 175 | Awesome :) Ok what do I do next? | 2015-08-26 18:08:00 | 94 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,062 |
About the Portland Tesla Service Center (Excellent) | I live over three hours away so I was worried that I would have to come back the following day for my HW 3.0 upgrade to finish. They listened to my situation gave me a loaner car and said to wait about 1.5 hours to see if they could get it through before the end of the day. 1.5 hours later I received a text saying it will be done in 3 hours! Got lunch and drove to a nearby mall. Service was simple getting the loaner car was fast and painless and the communication was spot on. They even let me super charge to a full charge so I could get home in my SR+ in one go. Truly impressed. Thanks Tesla. | 2020-03-06 19:41:57 | 112 | I had HW3 installed this week in Portland as well! As always a seamless positive experience with the Portland service center. I dropped mine off around 2pm and it was done shortly after they closed at 6pm so I snagged it the next morning. | 2020-03-06 19:51:22 | 19 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 1,167 |
Tesla model S suspension and control arms snapped | I was driving on the highway (401 east in Toronto) there s a deep but thin pothole in the middle of the lane that my front left tire hit at speed. It sent me up and the car down. The whole left side of the car was dragging on the ground afterwards and I had to drive off to the side of the road. I called Tesla emergency road services and they were pretty helpful - this was my first time ever needing their help. They sent a flat bed tow free of charge although I had to wait 2 hours and room the car to the service centre. They also gave me $400 of Uber credits which expired on Monday June 6th. This was on Saturday. The service centre was closed on the weekend just my luck and I get a call on Monday that they are still diagnosing the car. They call me the next day saying they just diagnosed the car and give me a quote of $3400 because the front left control arm and the suspension need replacing. Thankfully they gave me a loaner car free of charge and some Uber credits. Which I really needed because my job is very driving intensive. This is really expensive and I was wondering if anyone had gone through this situation before and if I have any recourse. I have a certified pre ownership warranty. The car is a 2015 Tesla Model S 70D that I bought used on October 2019. I m still waiting on them because they are ordering parts. I m going to be without my car for around 10 days and I have to shell out a butt load of money Let me know if there is anything else I can do to try and mitigate my costs. Thanks for the help! | 2020-06-10 13:39:13 | 7 | You hit a pothole. No warranty would cover this repair as it wasn t a manufacturer defect. The warranty isn t in place for driver error. | 2020-06-10 13:45:11 | 35 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 20,020 |
Has someone already saved his selection on the Model 3 delivery estimate page? | Can that setting be changed again after saving? I m hesitant to push the button because I don t want to make a choice yet. P.S. I m referring to the page depicted [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6qa4b3 expected_too_much_but_why_we_already_knew_what ). | 2017-07-29 16:31:28 | 5 | I saved it and it seems like I could change it again if I wish. | 2017-07-29 16:33:07 | 5 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 7,651 |
Utility of summon | The relatively short range that your key fob needs to be near your vehicle coupled with the relatively long time to get your car moving using summon means I find it rare that it s justifiable. I have a bollard in front of the parking spot I have at home so I use summon sometimes to move the car forward so that I don t have to get in drive forward 4 metres then get out to put the bollard up. That aside I can t see much use for summon. In what circumstances do you find it useful? | 2018-03-13 18:52:52 | 25 | 1.) When I arrive home the garage door opens automatically from the car. Sometimes I double tap the park button it activates summon when i exit the vehicle and close the door I can scoot on in the home while the car backs into the garage parks it s self into the garage then closes the garage door automatically. 2.) Cool party trick to show people who have never been around a Tesla car before. It never gets old I m like “watch this...”. People freak out it s fun. 3.) If I need to move the car a few inches it s a great lazy way to move the car. This is useful in parking spaces sometimes I overpark the line in front of the parking space like at a mall parking lot so I back up the car to be in line with the rectangle. Or if I m doing some work in the garage and need to move the car a bit I ll use summon. I wish we had a front seeing camera like how we have a back camera. Once Enhanced Autopilot is released Summon will be more useful and have more utility than now I think. Right now it s pretty limited in utility. | 2018-03-13 19:03:03 | 24 | Issues with Smart Summon | 21,972 |
Lost Cellular Connectivity After Installing 2020.16.2.1 | Anyone else lose their cellular connectivity after upgrading to 2020.16.2.1? I just installed it yesterday and noticed this afternoon that I no longer have a cellular connection while driving. I ve reset the car several times to no avail. At first I thought that perhaps there just might be a problem with the cellular network but it s been going on long enough that it can t be the case. Am curious to know if anyone else has experienced this too. UPDATE: I just got off the phone with tech support. After running \~20 minutes of troubleshooting procedures with the support rep he escalated the issue and was informed that this is a known issue and a fix was being worked on. No ETA on when it might be available. | 2020-05-29 04:05:22 | 18 | Yes this is a known issue. I ve posted this issue numerous times. I ve scheduled a service appointment yesterday to have someone come down but they said they needed more time to figure out the issue. I spoke to someone else on the forums and they said that to fix this is for a mobile service tech to swap out the hardware 3 computer with another hardware 3 computer. Not only did I lose LTE connectivity but my vehicle also does not charge overnight to the percentage I ve selected. So for example if I start charging at 40% and want 65% it ll only charge to 58%. This is due to the vehicle going into deep sleep and not waking up. My vehicle is able to connect to WiFi and mobile hotspot but it will not exit deep sleep unless it has LTE connectivity. I m also not able to connect to the vehicle once it s in deep sleep via app. So I have to open up the door to wake it up for a couple of hours to finish charging. I ve had this issue go on for nearly two weeks. Most annoying thing I ve had to date with the vehicle aside from random bulges coming out of the fender. EDIT: So I got a call from Tesla in regards to my battery not charging to the percentage I have said it too. They said they pulled the logs and it is indeed reaching the percentage. However there is also a 20-degree drop in weather throughout the night. I asked him if it s vampire drain he says it is not. But it s still surprises me that 20° can affect 4% of range in a 6-hour span. So I m going to start using schedule departure and see if that works any better. | 2020-05-29 12:22:39 | 8 | Car Software Update Connectivity | 11,130 |
Why the Model 3 is Going to be Bigger than Anything We have ever Seen. | I currently own a Model S. My wife owns a gas guzzling Mercedes GL550. When the topic of cars comes up with friends and family people tend to know all of the different classes and models Mercedes offers. Not so with Tesla in most cases. When people ask me how much I paid for my car I tend to focus on the fact that they can own a similar one in the near future for 35K. That has the ability to drive itself. Right now most people still don t believe me when I tell them a 35K Tesla is on the way much less one that drives itself. Self driving is another topic but when the Model 3 hits the roads and self advertises people won t be in the dark any longer. Most people will want one and many people will buy one. Fast forward a year or two more and pre-owned Model 3 s will be selling in the 20 s and these bad boys are driving without people in them. It is going to be the biggest game changer we have seen in recent times. It is going to be fun to watch. | 2016-11-05 13:04:50 | 269 | $43k with Self Driving. But yeah exciting times! | 2016-11-05 13:17:12 | 146 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,576 |
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Will Tesla s competitors face significant scaling issues in the EV market? | Hi Thanks for reading. I m curious if there is any general consensus as the whether or not Tesla s main competitors like GM Ford Audi VW etc will face any significant scaling issues like the “production hell” that Tesla went through in terms of high volume EV manufacturing? I realize there s multiple sides to this the batteries and then the manufacturing of the vehicles themselves but is it simply a matter of the incumbents “retooling” their sprawling pre-existing manufacturing infrastructure to start churning out hundreds of thousands millions of EV s or will it be significantly more difficult than that? When VW and GM and Ford all say they ve got these models coming out in 2021 2022 should be believe them? Here s what I don t get: Those companies seem really super confident in their projections treating manufacturing as almost a casual aside like “Yeah we re going to start pumping these things out in a year or two” and meanwhile Elon is like “ you guys don t understand manufacting EV s at scale is 1 000% - 10 000 percent harder than building a few prototypes” This article about harsh reception in Germany for the (edit: pre-production model) of VW s ID.3 makes me wonder if legacy auto companies are in for more work than most people are anticipating? https: www.autoblog.com 2020 09 09 vw-id3-electric-car-panned-by-german-auto-motor-und-sport From the article: “The inner side of the hood looks like it was painted with a spray can the publication said lamenting the absence of Volkswagen s trademark build quality in the car they were testing” 😳 | 2020-09-28 16:54:49 | 53 | They are *all* relying on other companies to build their batteries motors and other parts. Some of them are already planning on just putting lipstick on Toyota s pig. I m going to buy my EV s from a company that is an EV company first. Not from a company that reluctantly started making EV s after spending decades telling us they were impossible. | 2020-09-28 19:18:54 | 39 | Future of Electric Cars | 23,650 |
Toronto S X owners where did you pick up? | Like the title says. I m reserving the Model 3 at Yorkdale but I really doubt it will be big enough to handle all the pickups let alone store the cars when delivered. Haven t been to the other location so I can t compare that. | 2016-04-11 17:11:07 | 8 | Tesla delivers cars from their Lawrence Ave service center. | 2016-04-11 17:53:11 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,364 |
How is the Tesla Service Center Experience amenities wise and so on? | Just a curious question. I know with my current dealer they always provide breakfast wifi and so on. Is the experience the same at Tesla Service Centers? It s always something i appreciated anytime i took my car in for routine service. | 2016-09-20 19:29:47 | 16 | It varies by location. Coffee and wifi are common where I m at (Toronto). Tesla doesn t really want you hanging around waiting. My experience is that they would immediately give me a loaner and send me on my way. This was true even for a same day drop off pickup. | 2016-09-20 19:36:44 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,335 |
Does anyone think there will be price drops incentives in June 2019 before the $3750 tax incentive is gone? | I am considering a Model 3 even more so now that I know the $3750 federal incentive will be up July 1st 2019. Has there been any indication of any type of other incentives on the part of Tesla to move more 3 s prior to this incentive being up? I think I m just hopeful and maybe not realistic but wondering if anyone else is in the same boat. | 2019-05-04 21:01:04 | 8 | After yes. Before no. | 2019-05-04 21:27:23 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,486 |
Took delivery of a model y this morning 2020 model though with no glovebox USB or metal scroll wheels | Like the title suggests I took delivery this morning of a brand new model Y. It was in existing inventory and advertised as the 2021 model. So I went to go turn on the dashcam on honk feature and realized I don t have a USB port in the glovebox. This also means I don t have the metal scroll wheels on the steering wheel. A little bummed about it. Has anyone ran into something similar and did Tesla do anything to fix this? Or did you just have to deal with it? Update: This morning I called the service center again was told they totally understand my frustration and that they were going to have me go to my original sales rep. So I called the store he was at he was busy so I talked to a gentleman named Randall. He told me that those features did not exist on the Model Y as of yet and pretty much dismissed anything I told him including telling him that I have seen one with those features in person. He simply just said “Hmm I don t know if thats true we haven t released any of those features yet.” I was extremely nice about it all but he was kind of condencending about the whole conversation. I would have rathered him tell me that thats just luck of the draw instead of the “You re crazy those don t exist” fable. My OG sales rep is going to email me I guess so thats my last straw of hope but overall the customer support experience has been kind of crappy. | 2021-01-24 23:05:28 | 28 | Do the VIN and window sticker correspond to 2020? | 2021-01-24 23:15:26 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,330 |
Tesla Model 3: Canadian Winter and no Home Charging | Hello friendos I am considering buying a Tesla Model 3 in a year or so (standard range plus). I live in Toronto Canada. Unfortunately I don t have the ability to charge an electric vehicle in my parking spot due to the fact that I live in a condo. I m a bit worried about phantom drain and the harsh winter affecting the maximum range of the battery during winter. Is it wise to purchase a Tesla if you don t have a home charger? The weather here can get pretty damn cold (0 to -30 degrees Celsius). Will I survive with Superchargers alone? Thank you! :D | 2020-12-06 01:58:16 | 6 | If you don t have access to a charger an EV may not be a wise choice. | 2020-12-06 02:04:20 | 15 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 19,166 |
Shops in Connecticut with experience working with Tesla s? | Anyone know of any shops in Connecticut (preferably around Greenwich Stamford Fairfield) with experience working on Teslas? I m looking to have some Unplugged Performance springs installed and would prefer to go somewhere with knowledge of the platform. “But installing springs is no different on a Tesla than on any other car.” You say in a condescending tone. I get that but I d prefer to go somewhere other Tesla owners have had a good experience. Thanks in advance! | 2020-12-26 15:19:01 | 10 | North Haven Auto body. Airport Road Auto Body These are 2 places other Tesla Owners have had service done. I can t speak personally to any place. | 2020-12-26 21:36:59 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,101 |
Autopilot Slams on Brakes on Highway | Yesterday evening I was on a straight and empty highway clear and bright with an hour or so of daylight remaining in the second-to-right lane of four lanes my direction nothing in the road. As the car was about to drive under a bridge it suddenly SLAMMED on the brakes like completely stomped on them. Scared the crap out of me. I hit the accelerator pedal to speed up immediately but by then I had slowed to around 30 mph. If someone had been behind me I would have been rear-ended. There was nothing in the road except perhaps the shadow of the bridge? I did not notice anything pop up on the visualization part of the screen. 2020 M3P no FSD. 2020.20.12. WTF? Was it the bridge? Should I be afraid to use AP if there is any traffic on the road? Is there a way to predict (and prevent) this behavior? **UDPATE:** Just tried the exact same route same use of AP at 64 mph same lane. I had no issues with phantom braking tonight. Conditions were *very* similar but not exactly the same -- around the spot there were some cars a ways in front of me that I could see represented on the visualization part of the screen. Maybe seeing following those cars helped AP. Also I tried to look around for clues to what may have caused it last night. I couldn t see anything. The lane lines were clearly visible no weird curves or inclines or declines in the road the bridge was not odd on the horizon shadow didn t look weird. | 2020-06-26 18:58:05 | 68 | You must be new here. Welcome aboard. Hopefully this gets fixed soon but it s been an issue for a **long** time. Some software versions are better than others. It doesn t happen often to me but it has and it s infuriating. Bottom line with Autopilot always be ready for anything. It works great 99% of the time but that 1% will ruin your underwear. | 2020-06-26 19:15:19 | 142 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 2,502 |
Cyberplow | Is there any good information out there as to whether the cybertruck will be able to connect to and use a plow? A plow option may be a make or break for me. Are all beefy trucks able to plow or is that a rare feature? One would think that the cybertruck should be able to cyberplow since pushing a plow is a very truck thing to do and cybertruck is aiming to be the be all end all of trucks. If Tesla is making camping equipment and ATVs optional it seems like a plow could be another good option. Ultra-hard rolled cold 30X bulletproof origami folded stainless steel plow? Thoughts? | 2019-12-04 05:32:51 | 79 | How can it be make or break for you if you don t even know how plowing works with regular trucks ? | 2019-12-04 13:02:51 | 87 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck | 4,360 |
Corrupted charge screen on Tesla Android Mobile App after recent update? | I m running a Moto X and I noticed that the most recent update to the Tesla mobile app has corrupted the charge screen. I ve heard from one other person with the issue - any other owners with this issue? Currently running version 2.1.1 87 **edit:** Here s a screenshot of what I see on two physically different phones (both Moto Xes though): http: imgur.com hFudfdy **edit 2:** Got a chance to try it on a samsung phone (a galaxy) with the same results: http: imgur.com 7VtBMaf | 2015-04-06 02:37:52 | 17 | Hey guess what? Same problem. One Plus One Kitkat. | 2015-04-06 05:39:12 | 5 | Tesla charging port locking | 4,171 |
[Discussion] If you find yourself asking Is there more Tesla-hate lately than normal? ...this may help explain it. | For those who don t know Tesla has one of the largest short positions in the entire stock market. Given it s relatively low market cap this is quite an achievement. There is approximately $12 Billion dollars being bet that Tesla will drop (not including derivatives). At the same time there is $50 Billion dollars (plus the $12 Billion dollars of additional shares on the market from shorting not including derivatives) being bet that it will rise. But this is NOT a new development. Tesla has always been one of the most highly shorted stocks. What has changed is that the shorting is having a smaller and smaller effect on the stock itself. Evidence of this can be seen through snapshots of the stock price & short interest at specific times over the past year. - On 05 15 17 approximately 31 million shares were shorted. The stock price was $315. - On 07 31 17 approximately 28 million shares were shorted. The stock price was $323 - On 11 15 17 approximately 30 million shares were shorted. The stock price was $311. - On 11 30 17 approximately 31 million shares were shorted. The stock price was $308. - On 04 13 18 approximately 38 million shares were shorted. The stock price was $300. - On 04 30 18 approximately 39 million shares were shorted. The stock price was $294. - On 05 11 18 approximately 40 million shares were shorted. The stock price was $301. See how the stock prices at these snapshots are consistent(ish) but the short interest has increased by 9 million shares over the nearly year-long time period? One of the theories spread by short sellers is that Tesla CAN NOT sell ANY ADDITIONAL shares of stock. They will explain that no one will buy the shares and that it will crash the stock. Well is that true? No. The evidence supports the opposite. Short selling is nothing but borrowing shares from someone who owns them and re-selling them. The practice is essentially an artificial dilution of the stock. It depresses the stock s price by filling in this situation 9 million shares worth of buy orders. Now... Imagine for a moment that you wake up on 05 15 17 with Tesla having 31 million shares shorted and a stock price of $315. If someone out of no where came out and started filling 9 million shares worth of buy orders...and kept selling until all 9 million shares they borrowed to short were sold...what do you think would happen? Nothing good. Nothing short of a total stock collapse. There have been normal days where just 1-2 million shares of volume in the early morning of trading can cause 10% declines in Tesla. BUT WAIT... Here we are on 05 11 2018 the stock price is roughly the same a year later...but the shorted shares has INCREASED by 9 million. You know what that means? Tesla shareholders have been artificially diluted by short sellers to the amount of 9 million shares over the past year yet the price of those shares is unchanged. Tesla shareholders absorbed 9 million shares worth of dilution. It didn t work. More people are buying the stock. They sold 9 million shares to depress the market...to fill those buy orders and lower the price...but its at the same price as before. That means the financial methods of lowering Tesla s stock isn t working. And they are running out of shares to borrow and sell. So now the anti-Tesla campaigns are being waged through other means in order to try to trigger a response. More specially those short sellers will now be attempting to make mountains out of molehills when it comes to anything Tesla related. They ve seen that selling stock isn t working...shareholders just keep buying. They are now trying to convince those shareholders that they ve bought something worth zero. They want to convince people that they ve wasted their money and have no clue what they are investing in. They are doing this because they realize this is a battle over the hearts and minds of the current shareholders. Simply trying to get more people to bet against Tesla isn t having the desired effect and soon they won t be able to bet against Tesla because there won t be any shares left to borrow and sell. So the next time you see something insanely negative and almost laughably biased...understand that you are involved in essentially a psy-ops campaign. Which leads me to this... The shorts can t really leave their short positions. They are stuck. As I just stated these shares that they ve sold all 40 million shares of their artificial dilution are being held by hardcore shareholders. If they attempted to buy 40 million shares on the open market those shares are being held by people who are so battle-tested and nearly immune to the nonsense floating around who have held through so much nonsense that very few will sell. They NEED big drops in Tesla s stock price so they can buy without creating a rising price. They will seek to make ANYTHING a big story. Even if it lowers the stock $30 for just a few days it helps them get out of their bets. An example of this: executive departures... Tesla s stock WILL drop big and fast on Monday due to the media campaign of making every Tesla HR move a national headline. Even though millions of people changed jobs in the world they will do EVERYTHING possible to make you think that 1 guy taking a new job and 1 guy taking a few weeks off is a big deal. Just remember why they are doing it... And for those who say the media isn t on the side of the short sellers...don t be fools. Paying people a couple hundred thousand dollars to find anything remotely negative to ensure that the media is on your side when it comes to a bet that is a couple hundred million billion dollars...they d be foolish and irresponsible if they weren t doing it. *EDIT* - DISCLAIMER: I am long TSLA. But no I m not trying to convince you to buy the stock. The less retail investors there are in TSLA the better. Weak hands should never buy TSLA. DO NOT BUY TSLA if you can t handle watching large sums of your stock s value disappear. | 2018-05-13 04:05:25 | 256 | I know people get really into the short vs long narrative but the institutional investors who set the long term price only care about production revenue growth profit margin and some sort of path towards profitability. No one gives a shit about 90% of the stuff that professional shorts go on and on about. I spent some time last week reading a few Twitter feeds of Tesla shorts and those people are as obsessed and emotionally involved in Tesla as the biggest possible fanboy. It s almost all extrapolation and pettiness with a lack of understanding that past financial performance does not guarantee future failure. I can only give one data point but my Model 3 is utterly amazing and 3 of the 4 people who have ridden in my car so far were blown away and talking about getting one (the other guy is broke and oblivious to cars). I had to break the news that there were 400k people ahead of them in line and they can t get one for over a year. The potential for the company is astronomical... they just need to execute on their plan which all signs point to them doing. The ~6 month delay of the Model 3 ramp will be inconsequential in the big picture if that s as long as it ends up being. I can only imagine the demand Model Y will have if they nail the design and don t make any impractical design choices for the sake of being different. | 2018-05-13 04:24:27 | 97 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,466 |
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Saving up for a Model 3? Here s a fun little bar-graph that you can color in as you go. | Okay I know this is dorky as hell but I m really jonesing for a Model 3 and I had a particularly boring Monday. http: imgur.com a NH65k The image is shamelessly borrowed from [these guys](https: teslapride.com products tesla-model-3-reserved-t-shirt). I m no artist but I can code a bit. It always bothers me when non-rectangular objects are used to make bar graphs since they can distort the data so I wrote a quick script that split the image up by *area* instead of distance (note the bars in the front are thicker than in the middle). It s split into 35 segments for the $35 000 base model. Any who happy saving! | 2016-10-11 06:52:32 | 99 | This is great and a nice motivator to keep saving money (and to not spend it on useless stuff). Well done! | 2016-10-11 07:51:07 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,779 |
New beeping driving me crazy | With the recent update our Tesla Model X has a new beeping that is annoying. It has always beeped at you if you put your foot on the brake and didn t have a seatbelt on. Lately though when you put the car in park and take off your seatbelt it beeps at you. I tried to put it in Joe mode and looked for a setting but can t find any new setting. It is super annoying and I m pretty sure it s new. The software should realize that after you park the car taking off a seatbelt is normal. I don t need a dozen beeps at me every time. | 2019-11-17 23:44:13 | 38 | Sounds like a normal Toyota. | 2019-11-17 23:49:25 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,923 |
Ordering for delivery months from now | Anyone ordered a Tesla for delivery in a specified month like 4-5 months in the future? I m moving in a few months and was told I could put down $100 to lock in today s price and get it delivered months down the line. For those who did this what was that experience like? Did they deliver it around when you wanted them to and when d you have to pay? | 2020-02-13 08:30:40 | 20 | Note: most deliveries happen in the last month of the quarter (March June September December) *regardless* of location in the world. Cars arrive at the distribution location and need to be picked up within a few hours otherwise the VIN will get re-assigned—there is just not space to *store* cars because the next car carrier will arrive needs space to drop off another batch of cars. | 2020-02-13 09:08:31 | 16 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 14,512 |
Getting my first Tesla! New or used? | Hey everyone! I m looking to buy a Tesla over the next month or 2 At first I was planning on going with a used Model Y or possibly a model 3 However after looking at both New ones directly through Tesla and used ones 3rd party I m noticing that buying new seams to be much cheaper. Anyone know What the reason is for this? Or maybe I m missing something. On Tesla s website I m getting a Model Y Long Range Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive is starting at 54k Where all the used ones I m finding are 60k plus. | 2021-09-07 23:35:57 | 96 | Supply and demand. | 2021-09-08 00:15:04 | 123 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 7,186 |
37.5K mile annual service info: tires DU work done price etc | Good morning everyone Here s the info on my 37.5K mile service. Note: I ve done 37.5K in 1.5 years and took my car in for the 12.5K 25K and now this service as well. Don t care they say it isn t necessary - I m doing all recommended services maintenance on my baby. Price: $400. Time: 1.5 days due to DU replacement. Service Center: Costa Mesa advisor Louie (really nice people over there!) Work done: * Pull logs: no faults found * Update to latest firmware software * Perform function check of closures: cleaned and lubricated latches. No issues * Tested and inspected charge cable: normal charging at 40amps (note: this is still my first and only cable) * Replaced wiper blades key FOB battery cabin air filter * Remote keyless entry: Good * Seat belts and latches: Good * Interior exterior lighting and horn: Good * Inspection of powertrain and chassis: Good * Checked for leakage and refill fluids: Brake and coolant good. Flushed fluids and and systems as required * Inspect tires: recommend replacement in near future (note: my tires have 30K+ miles on them and are almost down to 3mm on rear) * Rotate tires and adjust tire pressure * Measure brake pad thickness: 8mm (all around) * Vehicle alignment and test drive * Validation test drive completed * Car wash detail * Charge car Warranty fixes: * Customer states increased whine noise under 45mph. Verified. Replaced Drive Unit Assembly (note: Talked to advisor I had the milling noise apparently and it was due to not enough lube in the DU. Said common in my batch of DUs from 2014 now fixed with new cars.) * Performed coolant purge and updated firmware for new DU * Customer states rear left and right windows don t always roll all the way up may require repeat attempt. Confirmed at time of write up. Left side back seal is still in place. Re-programmed left rear window stop locations and verified operation. Right side door handle back seal getting caught in window when operating.Removed right rear door handle assy. Installed new updated exterior handle release backing plate. Tested operation. Found window opening and closing without fail. All in all a good visit. I m upset that I had to get a DU replacement! I was hoping mine was one of the ones that would last a very long time. All I noticed was a little increased noise (which actually sounds pretty cool my co-workers said it sounds like the batmobile) but they said it was above their standards and since my batch of DUs has a common issue with not enough lube they replaced it anyways. Didn t tell me if brand new DU or refurbished but I don t really care. The back windows (mostly the left) had been acting up a bit lately and didn t roll all the way up when closing the door - I d have to roll it down then back up with the buttons to get it fully closed. That appears to be all good now. I got a P85+ loaner and it did have the performance options on it with the code including 90 and MAX . Tried them both out couldnt tell a difference. Fun and fast of course but as I ve said before I d take my auto-pilot over the increased speed any day. My tires are a bit worn now. They have 29K-30K miles on them now (since about 7K were on winter tires) - mine are Goodyear RS-A2s. I ll get that done sometime in the near future along with the LTE upgrade. Of course service was top-notch with communication loaner etc. Cheers! | 2016-05-05 15:47:44 | 60 | Thanks for the info! Helps us future owners to get an idea of how it all works. I only do a little more than 1 10 of the miles you do annually (I realize initially it will be higher because of extra fun-ride miles). As much as I can I m going to keep bicycle commuting in the summers. | 2016-05-05 15:56:52 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 698 |
The semi will probably cost 150-200K and other specs | Extracted from a youtube video see below. * Price 150-200K - I also have seen 250K mentionned somewhere * Motors on the 2 Rear axles * Middle Drive unit gear Ratio 15 1 * Rear Drive Unit Gear Ration 23 1 * At least 10 cameras ( 3 on top of the windshield 3 at the bottom 2 on the sides near the headligts 2 on the little wings on the side near the top of the cabin.) * The driver have a 360° view from these cameras * Based on serial number of the engines Tesla may have made more than 11 prototypes ( or at least 22 drive units ) * The truck has an insane amount of cooling * Compatible with super charger network but that would obviously takes a few hours. These data come from a [video posted yesterday](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7ekbs8 tesla_semi_cost_from_insiders_other_unknown dq5ku7z ) with a potential semi price and specs. However the style and length of the video did not make for a great viewing so it didn t get a lot of attention. I watched it twice to hopefully extract the actual information. The youtuber got these information by speaking to tesla employees semi customers and crawling under the semi which I guess may have annoyed Tesla... Take it with a pinch of salt. The main take away is that the semi will not be a lot more expensive than any other semi especially since it comes with more belt and wistle including fleet management and tracking software. | 2017-11-22 15:42:25 | 27 | Great post. Per the [CEO of JK Moving](https: www.bizjournals.com washington news 2017 11 21 your-next-move-could-be-in-a-tesla-jk-moving-to.html) here in NoVA the price of a Tesla Semi is expected to be within 20% of a new semi today. That follows the $150-200k price range you stated above. I already emailed JK and told them they have my business when its time to move. Maybe silly but I want them to hear from customers that this commitment to sustainability is appreciated. | 2017-11-22 15:48:05 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,876 |
States that allow Tesla Model S Test Drives for drivers under 25? Colorado is one of them. | Just scheduled my second test drive (want to get 2 friends behind the wheel this time) in Denver for next weekend (flying in for festivities). I m only 23 so I was worried they were going to ask the Are you at least 25 years of age like I ve been told at 2 other locations recently (LA and Texas) but alas still the same rules as when I test drove there back in late 2012. And to top that off the rep on the phone said they may be getting a **P85+** in just in time but they weren t completely sure... hopefully they do! Either way the P85 is still awesome to test drive. Does anyone know of any other states that don t require the minimum age of 25 to test drive? | 2014-04-10 22:56:00 | 15 | When you say state do you mean store? I mean do you have to be 25 to test drive a Corolla? I was under the impression Tesla did this assuming most people under 25 can t afford the car. I mean did you ask the at the ones who said no if an exception could be made if you put down the $2 500 deposit? In all fairness I am certain they pay less to the insurance company by requiring you be 25. That is the same age you have to be to rent a car without a surcharge. edit: oops I just saw you said if you put down the $5 000 deposit you can test drive. I m giving it 50 50 they will deny you to be honest because this is 1) most buyers of a Tesla are older than 25 and 2) therefore they get the cheaper insurance that requires you be 25. | 2014-04-11 14:04:48 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,749 |
im about to preorder the model 3 i have some questions | I told my self a few years back my next car will be the tesla model 3. now the time is getting close for the pre-orders reservations i think i have to act. i have never reserved a car like this before and im curious to how its done. Will Tesla dealer see proof from my bank that ill be able to buy it once its ready before i can pay the 1000$ fee? i hear people say the fee is refundable but havent seen this info from Tesla is this true? if i dont preorder reserve one how long time will you estimate it will be before i then can get my hands on a model 3? | 2016-02-15 14:49:04 | 5 | Pre-orders don t open until the *end* of *next* month. It s $1k to pre-order fully refundable. Deliveries won t *start* until the end of 2017 (at best due to Musk time). There shouldn t be any sort of income requirements for a pre-order it is just putting your name in the hat (and deliveries won t necessarily be in order I suspect they ll want to rate limit specific options for a while). | 2016-02-15 15:08:36 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,409 |
Notes from a MS owner for anyone else that is or might be going through the #struggle | I just got my Model S a few weeks ago and I ll admit up until delivery day (and even a little while after) I was having serious doubts and pre-buyers remorse. I configured a semi-loaded 70D and thought perhaps I had made a huge mistake not biting the bullet and upgrading to a 90D. I never even test drove the 70 before ordering. Would it be fast enough? Would I have enough range for daily use? Are new AP sensors right around the corner? After a few weeks of ownership I just want everyone who may be in my position that the feelings were totally unjustified. I am so unbelievably happy and satisfied with my car that it s hard to even understand how I felt the way I did. Is the 70D fast? Yes it s extremely fast. The torque is instantly available. The handling is out of this world. It doesn t feel slow at all (the thought is ridiculous now). I think a faster car on regular streets might actually be a liability. Is the 70 kWh battery enough? For me it s enough and I suspect that s the case for the majority of people. I don t commute long distances and for driving around town there s almost no reason you need a bigger battery if you have home charging. It s difficult to drive that many miles in a day. This is however a personal decision and there are valid reasons someone might need a few extra miles. The feeling of satisfaction is so overwhelming that I really don t care if there s a refresh next week and I literally got one of the last models in the old body style. I thought I d be upset but after experiencing ownership I m not. I really don t care. I know there must be others out there torturing themselves about the same issues and wanted to do what I could to put your mind at ease. | 2016-03-19 03:51:58 | 34 | Same here. I have the 70s and that car is more speed than needed. Hell I don t event drive fast anymore. Autopilot made me a slow driver. | 2016-03-19 03:53:59 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,191 |
I created a periodic web scraper for Tesla s car inventory search page | Hey r teslamotors for anyone interested in buying a Tesla through their inventory feature I made a script that can periodically check their inventory page and alert you if a car matching your criteria appears as soon as it s put on the site. It s no longer useful to me but if anyone is periodically checking inventory pages and wants to automate it here is the link. I can help if anyone wants to set it up. [https: gist.github.com mmowbray d4079f5072ddbcecbd2c070db76210e5](https: gist.github.com mmowbray d4079f5072ddbcecbd2c070db76210e5) | 2020-04-24 23:25:38 | 42 | Ev-cpo.com | 2020-04-25 00:34:45 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,787 |
Only two types of people when riding in our Tesla for the first time. | You ve got the people that say this with our Model 3: I hate the door handles. They are so stupid. What s with the big screen? It blocks the view of everything. How do you get out? That is so dumb having a button there. You couldn t pay me to have to charge it all the time. And with our Model S: Oh yuck. The interior is so spartan. I would totally miss a console. It feels so cheap inside. Wait until that screen breaks. You won t even be able to drive. I d be scared of running out of battery all the time. Totally unreliable. Then you have the other type: For our Model 3: OMG! The door handles are so different! That is so cool! OMG! Look at that screen! There s nothing else! You can run the whole thing on that!!!!? Wow! Oh it s so quiet and smooth! And you never have to buy gas! And with our Model S: LOVE the interior! You can set your purse right in the center! I LOVE those screens! They are so high tech! Look at the map! OMG! So quiet! I want one so badly!!! And that s it. There s never a middle ground. What a polarizing car. I ve come to covertly judge those who I know based upon their reactions to their first time in the car. Is it jealousy? Is it lack of knowledge? Is it a bias? Is it based upon all of the anti-Musk press? Who knows. Do any of you notice this as well? Does anybody just get in your car for the first time and remain neutral. Seems like a nice car. Do you like it? It has never happened with me. I m just coming off a weekend of a friend staying with us and her first comment when getting in was I hate those door handles. They are so dumb. I wouldn t even want a car that I had to open like that. It went downhill from there. | 2018-10-27 21:31:22 | 114 | Why would someone say so many bad things about someone else s new car? Sounds like a dick. Even if you don t like it you don t try and make someone feel bad about their purchase. | 2018-10-27 21:55:05 | 148 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,397 |
Model 3 disable auto dimming | UPDATE: Disabling the rear mirror also disable the side mirrors Rear mirror https: www.youtube.com watch?v=fWBEhRA0VU8& feature=share About 1:30 you will see the wire to remove also you might be able to remove without twisting the entire rear mirror assembly out. Side mirrors https: imgur.com gallery DQSsdUf Tilt side mirrors (not housing) inward and you should be able to get your hand behind mirrors pull gently and you should hear the clips release. Release the white tabs with pen or small screw driver. | 2020-03-01 19:30:06 | 34 | but why? | 2020-03-01 19:48:47 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,144 |
Naming of the two Model 3 range editions | I find it interesting that Tesla have chosen not to use model variations related to the battery capacity. The presentation called them Standard and Long range . However other places I ve heard them described as the 220-mile and the 310-mile versions. I think this is problematic for many reasons: * The large percentage of the world who use metric is the most obvious. Interestingly enough the ranges convert almost exactly to 350 km and 500 km nice round numbers. * The fact that the vehicles are not always capable of the specified range. If someone lives in a cold climate they may refer to their vehicle as the 220-mile even though they never get more than 190 miles from it. * When someone goes to sell their Model 3 a decade down the road the battery would have reduced capacity and they would be trying to sell the 220-mile version but have to explain that it doesn t actually do 220 miles any more. So Standard and Long range are better but still not perfect: * The definitions of these may change over time. When the 85 went to 90 and then to 100 people knew about it. But if the long range battery becomes a slightly higher capacity battery in the future will it be advertised? If someone in a few years says I got from A to B in my Model 3 LR with 5% left no problem will someone who has an older LR expect to do the same only to find that the other guy s LR had a 10kWh bigger pack? * What if they add a third option? Very long range ? Extra long range? (Reminds me of VHF UHF..) * People like us understand approximately how many kWh the batteries hold but when someone with a Model 3 supercharges and is told it costs $x.xx per kWh they honestly won t know how much that is relative to their vehicles battery capacity. I m half empty how much is half a battery? I m aware that the existing battery capacities are only approximate (A Model S 75 doesn t have *exactly* 75 kWh worth of storage) but that is fine. It s still a number so that you know generally what your car has. I notice from previous photos that there are still references to kW and kWh on the dash regarding charging rate efficiency and so on. Perhaps people may work it out from that. Or maybe the images we ve seen are in advanced mode and there is a simple mode where all figures are in basic km miles remaining km miles of range added per hour terminology. kWh km (or kWh mi) are still not concepts that people are familiar with though. For now lets settle on abbreviations.. STD and LR? :) | 2017-07-30 04:17:09 | 19 | People might be concerned that the 55kwh Model 3 has more range than their 75kwh Model S. Probably done this way to prevent direct comparison. | 2017-07-30 04:30:35 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,584 |
We attempted to create a cheap camping solution for an upcoming road trip! | Tesla Series #33 We have decided that on an upcoming road trip we will be doing some car camping in the model 3 to save costs! To see if this is possible on the cheap we have attempted to create an easy low cost sleeping solution. The basics where a $10 Twin air mattress that fits pretty perfect with linens from the house and some other stuffing to fill in the gaps. The result: If you are not a huge person this may work ! me and my wife spend the night in this configuration and really overall it was fine. The mattress is really thick so your leg room is limited. We even had to use smaller blankets to make space. I would say this setup would be fine for a few nights but a piece of foam may be a good middle ground for longer stays or larger people. We made a video of our attempt for those interested! [https: youtu.be woj07UJEs0c](https: youtu.be woj07UJEs0c) | 2020-01-16 19:39:35 | 39 | Model Y is going to be great for car camping. All the pros of the M3 without the trunk-lid taking away the vertical space. | 2020-01-16 20:37:30 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,301 |
Top Gear and Tesla | Now that Top Gear is rebooting do you guys think a serious Model S item could be made? The way some people even car enthusiasts watching Top Gear think about EV s has really changed since their review on the Roadster. In that review they made the EV look like your typical EV failure and car people loved it because it fit with their view. Now people might actually be interested in that one electric car that beat an Aventador in their Facebook feed. I think that an honest review would bring a lot of new people on to the Tesla bandwagon and could up the public perception of EV s. Thoughts? | 2015-08-19 21:28:32 | 6 | Top Gear s recent [article](http: www.topgear.com car-news speed-week-2015 speed-week-tesla-model-s-p85d-vs-bmw-i8) comparing the BMW i8 with the Tesla P85D was pretty pro-Tesla so hopefully they ll continue with more accurate (and positive) coverage. | 2015-08-19 21:45:36 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,352 |
Black Paint Discount on In-Inventory Model 3SR+ and P3D- | Just heard from my Tesla rep that apparently in-inventory Model 3SR+ and P3D- are being discounted the cost of the black paint ($750) in order to increase sales. Something about having a shitload of SR+ in inventory and wanting to sell them before the end of the quarter (September 30th) she has no idea why the P3D- is included in this offer. It s brought the Black P3D- under $50k which means it qualifies for the $1 500 CT PA MA rebate. & #x200B Don t know if this is news or not but I couldn t find anything while searching. & #x200B EDIT: [Proof of $750 price adjustment for black P3D-](https: imgur.com a sDek94G) | 2019-08-26 16:29:51 | 46 | [It was the final nudge I needed](https: imgur.com a ZNh1vVm) | 2019-08-26 16:53:55 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,914 |
Outlet Test | Is there any testing you can do on a wall outlet prior to getting your car and plugging it in that would let you know that the outlet will work for charging your Tesla? I would really hate to get the car home and plug it in only to find out that for whatever reason the car will not charge from that particular outlet. | 2018-02-25 21:07:44 | 5 | Stick your finger in the outlet. If you feel something it works. *Full disclosure: I am not an electrician. | 2018-02-25 21:47:16 | 14 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 14,552 |
Just pushed my 2020 Model 3 to the absolute limit. | I drive a 250mi range model 3 I was on a road trip and had secured enough charge for the trip according to the internal computer. Well I had 5 people total plus a car full of luggage averaging about 85mph the whole way. Needless to say I hit 0 miles left about 10 miles from my exit and 15 miles from my house. As I got off the exit I started to notice my speed couldn t go past 55mph. Then as I got closer and closer to my house the speed diminished. As I pulled into my neighborhood the car said turning off please find a safe place to park as I pull into my charging spot. I got about 15 miles after 0%. So I guess that s roughly what the reserve is. It was intense as hell. * Edit- for those wondering the car is running fine today and battery is still at same capacity. This was not intentional and was a very stressful experience. I m extremely proud of the car and how it was able to still get us all home safely. | 2021-03-15 00:25:33 | 614 | 85 is an incredibly inefficient speed. but welcome to the club of 0% ers. | 2021-03-15 00:48:54 | 479 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 10,518 |
Dreadnought: The Most Interesting Part of Tesla | Ever since I saw that now outdated natgeo doc I am fascinated by a fully automated assembly line. The output numbers that Elon threw around are incredible I would love insight from engineers and Tesla employees onto what exactly are the jobs that are being automated? What beyond the open roof hatch in the Model 3 is different that allows for robots to do more work? Where are the efficiencies coming from that allow for such massive increases in production speed? Are the robots able to sense parts of the car and react dynamically or do they only perform rote motions? So many questions. | 2017-08-02 23:50:38 | 10 | Tesla s Fremont factory used to be GM Toyota s NUMMI factory where Toyota taught GM about lean manufacturing in the 1980s. Up until Tesla s purchase of the facility in 2010 it was producing an average of 6000 cars per week or more than Tesla s goal for peak production this year. That wasn t full capacity for the facility and it was with 25-year-old techniques and plenty of human labor. I don t think Tesla s production lines are any more automated than other auto manufacturers today or in the near future. I think it s more of a long-term goal... Elon said he hoped for alien dreadnought 1.0 in summer 2018 and that s an Elon time estimate. | 2017-08-03 00:20:43 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,644 |
Tesla regrets? (vs. other cars?) | As a 30F I don t know a lot about cars but I know going electric is always the environmental choice. beyond that I haven t done a lot of research. I am looking for any regrets or comparisons to other cars people have had when switching to Tesla- Is this a more expensive brand to maintain beyond the purchase price? Is it a hassle to get things fixed? Are tires difficult to change? Do you regret being tethered to special T charger locations when on road trips? Do they maintain resale value? Does charging at home really hit your electric bill? I am looking for pros and cons of buying one. Thanks! edit: I have a Honda fit which I bought for brand durability ( fewer problems down the road ) practicality in carrying capacity small car size that s easy to park and low price tag since I don t need flashy. double add: we just bought a house with an extra steep driveway and I m worried that in the winter when it freezes over my car won t make it. Are there specific models better for ice and snow driving? | 2019-06-08 18:34:56 | 23 | Regret: after first test drive I cannot see the possibility of ever owning another car besides a Tesla. Ruined for other cars. Ended up with 2 of them. | 2019-06-08 18:56:07 | 94 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,150 |
Can anyone share their experience of leasing through Tesla? | I have just accepted a position that dramatically increases my annual income. (Previous job refused to give me raise barely over intern wages). With the new luxuries I look to replace my broken down Nissan Altima with full check engine light warped rotors and brake issues. My wife and I have a cross country trip planned from KY to SoCal and back and I thought it would be a delight to take this trip in a Tesla purely because of the ease with AP. So my question to the community is: has anyone leased through Tesla? What s the experience like? Were they tough on credit score? Do they approve everyone? Is the lease estimated on the website accurate? Are there hidden fees? I don t expect specific numbers but a general idea would be appreciated. | 2019-06-14 05:04:57 | 15 | Are you sure you want to lease? It s widely known that the Tesla lease terms are terrible. You re locking in 50% depreciation with no buyout option. You re paying obscene amounts of money to rent a car. | 2019-06-14 05:16:45 | 10 | Tesla Lease Experience Considerations | 3,440 |
Model 3 Video Calling with Driver Facing Camera | I have no supporting evidence but I woke up thinking about it and it would make sense for when the Model 3 becomes fully autonomous. Thoughts feelings or rumors? | 2017-10-03 18:02:55 | 21 | Might be neat. Could call friends family when you are on a road trip. However it definitely would be a back burner feature as it probably wouldn t be used all that much and wouldn t want to be enabled until full autonomy is perfected. | 2017-10-03 18:10:19 | 7 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 12,043 |
Great experience test driving Model 3 | I ve been a Tesla and SpaceX fan for a long time and signed up for a test drive for a Model 3PD and the staff were so friendly. I m completely sold on the Model 3.... after being on this sub for a long time (writing this from an alt-account). If I were to buy a car next it ll probably be a used Model 3. I found it kind of funny though that the first thing they asked me when I said I was coming in for the test drive was when are you taking delivery? lol... I wish... I wish... The steering and drive is smooth and tactile and the acceleration is a joy (oops sorry for hitting 90 by accident :P ). I tested the EAP and it s great! It performed smoothly and I can see how incredible of a help it can be for long distance freeway traffic driving but also how the irresponsible can... grow to depend on it. Anyways one point that was brought up maybe the commnunity could answer - they said free supercharging is gone forever even for people who purchased Model 3 with supercharging. Let me explain - if someone purchased Model 3 when free supercharging is promised they then sell it used to me I would not get that supercharging (i.e. the free supercharging isn t attached to the person *or* the car it s gone once the original owner relinquishes ownership of that vehicle). Is this correct? | 2018-10-20 00:19:05 | 15 | Free supercharging is not transferable. But it s not big deal. You re not going to be spending much on supercharging anyway. | 2018-10-20 00:51:01 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,357 |
Where are the good place to stop between CA to NY | My mom who s dealing with stage 4 lung Cancer is now on immuno-therapy. She s fine now but she always wanted to go to NYC. but scared about flying so my goal now is once I get my Model 3 I will drive to NY from CA. It s also my first time to drive to NY Quite sure a lot of Model S and X drivers already had done this. Can anyone give me a link or guide on how to do this? Where are the good stops (must not missed tourist attraction) and still make the trip in ≈ 2 days? Do you sleep in the car or get a room along the way What to expect What to bring the essentials... thanks in advance | 2017-06-12 21:35:37 | 5 | Doing it in 2 days is a terrible marathon effort. I ve done it once. You only stop for gas bio breaks and eat prepackaged food at gas stations. If you want to stop and see things allow a week. | 2017-06-12 21:53:51 | 13 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 23,190 |
Are S and X Neural Nets Completly Separate? | Because if they re not that could mean that Model 3 could use the same data and potentially have some level of autonomy on day one. | 2017-01-04 19:47:38 | 5 | No. I would expect Tesla to train the neural net with data from both Model S and X. | 2017-01-04 20:32:49 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,143 |
Differences between Superchargers vs. HPWC vs. Dual Charging | I don t own a Tesla but I m captivated by their cars and technologies. Can someone explain like I m 5 what the difference is between Supercharging HPWC and Dual Charging... and maybe follow it up with a bit more technical information (ie. which is best charge times amperages etc.). I apologize if this has been covered in a previous post. | 2014-08-29 19:50:24 | 13 | Regular outlet: slow 3 miles per hour Dryer RV outlet (10-30 14-30 14-50 etc): a little faster 20-30 miles per hour HPWC without dual chargers: just a little faster than the dryer RV outlet still around 30-35 miles per hour. Can only handle load around 40a. HPWC with dual chargers: double the rate of the HPWC without dual chargers - pretty fast 60-70 miles per hour. Can handle load around 80a. Supercharging: fast as f*** compared to others. 170 miles in 30 minutes (assuming near empty battery pack) | 2014-08-29 20:50:08 | 9 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 5,104 |
Did anyone get the spoiler with their Model 3 Performance stealth version? | Last October I purchased a P3D- and was told the spoiler was back ordered (along with an included Signature version wall charger which I still haven t received and now they have no record that I am owed one....). Did anyone get a spoiler included with their stealth version? Or is it only included with full performance version? | 2019-07-31 23:37:00 | 20 | It s only included as a part of the Performance package upgrades. You were misinformed. | 2019-07-31 23:42:32 | 34 | Tesla Model Comparison | 5,073 |
Super chargers in Livonia Michigan are online. | 10 stalls. Schoolcraft and Middlebelt roads far corner of the Meijer parking lot. Saw two there today. The last time I checked 3 months ago they were still listed on the supercharger map as coming soon but they are now online. That is all. | 2018-02-24 17:04:58 | 49 | It s been open for a month: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads supercharger-livonia-mi.99105 page-7 | 2018-02-24 17:10:33 | 12 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 17,955 |
TeslaCam Manager | I m not sure what everyone uses to manage their TeslaCam USB drives but with the sheer amount of data and manual process of going through the recordings and emptying the drive I started to dread having to bring it in. So I created a little program (for Windows 10) that made the process a bit easier and thought I d share it with the community. You can find the open source code and download link here: [https: github.com rjoo teslacam-manager](https: github.com rjoo teslacam-manager) Some features: * Auto-detects USB drive (or any drive with a root TeslaCam folder) * Plays all three camera recordings in synchronization * Keyboard shortcuts to quickly skim through recordings and tag any interesting recordings * Quickly delete individual recordings or everything not tagged * Displays how much space is used remaining on the USB drive | 2019-07-31 15:56:50 | 110 | Thanks for sharing. There seems to be half a dozen of these programs out with similar functionality all you devs should band together and combine efforts to create one awesome program and help each other improve things. | 2019-07-31 16:30:23 | 45 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 20,463 |
Solar Roof v3 is going to be more affordable and easier to install but nobody seems to be mentioning the downsides of the new design. | Warranty of Solar Roof v3 compared to v2: Tile warranty from “lifetime of the house” down to 25 years Power warranty from 30 years to 25 Weatherization warranty from 30 years to 25 Hail rating from Class 4 to Class 3 Fire rating removed entirely(?) Also the new tiles are enormous! 5.5x bigger than the previous version. They aren t trying to look like normal roof tiles anymore. The presented narrative seems to be that these new panels are an improved version of the previous design but it seems to me like Tesla shifted gears completely with v3. Instead of focusing on making them good roof tiles first that also happen to be solar panels they now seem to be miniaturized solar panels that also happen to function as a roof. Presumably this is how they decreased the cost and installation complexity so much but we should acknowledge the trade-offs being made. Those are my thoughts I m interested to hear what others have to say. By the way weren t there originally going to be a [variety of design styles](https: i.imgur.com OdyazEd.jpg)? What ever happened to those? Edit: Listening to the webcast at 35:30 Elon says they want to make clay and slate styles similar to the above screenshot. It s “the next major challenge for the engineering team” and he estimates we ll see it sometime next year. I m interested to see how it ll look with the new larger unit size. | 2019-10-28 15:48:24 | 187 | Lifetime of house is not practical from a business perspective. I m sure some smart people at Tesla explained to Musk that he was subjecting Tesla to a shit load more warranty liability with those claims. 25 years is still an extremely long time and longer than most people will own a house. I didn t notice the size change until you mentioned it but it makes a lot of sense to have larger tiles from an efficiency prespective. Eye of the beholder I guess but these look pretty slick. Just a little different than current roof tiles. FYI - A normal roof shingle is 12x36 (or 13.25 x 39.75 if metric shingles) and these are 15x45. Not WILDLY different. | 2019-10-28 16:28:41 | 147 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 17,506 |
Quick question: 21 inch tires? Yay or nay? | I m this close to buying a used tesla P85 but I have question about 19 inch tires vs 21. If you drive normal no huge extreme driving It will be a family vehicle will the 21 inch tires last as long as the 19? | 2016-09-07 01:50:48 | 12 | 21 s are more expensive to replace don t last as long and add more road noise as well as make for a rougher ride. If you re ok with sacrificing all of the above for mild performance gains and the better appearance then by all means get 21 s. Logically though it makes more sense to get 19 s. | 2016-09-07 02:35:54 | 9 | Model Y Wheel Options | 16,048 |
Tesla Model E trademark removed due to possible Ford lawsuit | A point I picked out in the stock holder meeting was that the trademark for the Model E was originally thought up by Musk at a party when he said we have S we have X why not E? . They trademarked this name as it stuck and they also trademarked Model Y for obvious reasons. The trademark was removed due to Ford calling Tesla and requesting that they remove the trademark or they would sue Tesla. Musk made the pun in the conference that Ford are obviously trying to kill off Sex . | 2014-06-03 22:13:20 | 32 | As if we would confuse the two. | 2014-06-04 00:44:48 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,170 |
Other incentives for Tesla owners to research | Everyone focuses on the Federal tax incentives and state EV rebates as potential benefits to purchasing a Tesla (or any EV really). However everyone should do a bit more digging because you can streamline other benefits to help lower your all around costs reduce the cost of initial entry on a Tesla or just maintain lower costs on owning and driving a Tesla. Personally I don t think these benefits should make or break your decision to buy a Tesla (either you can afford the payment or you cannot) but they can certainly help make a sweet deal even sweeter. I found this website and it does a good job offering a single point to research your options: https: pluginamerica.org why-go-plug-in state-federal-incentives . Obviously do a few more Google searches or whatnot but this was a great jumping off point. On top of Federal incentives and state rebates: - Change your utility rate plan to a Time of Use plan or a specific Time of Use for EV charging plan. With this you can schedule your Tesla to charge at night once a lower rate plan is in effect. For example SoCal Edison charges $0.23-32 kWh to charge during peak hours (2pm to 8pm during the summer) but on a TOU-B or TOU-EV plan you would pay only $0.13 kWh. Either you look at it as cutting your charging bill in half or NOT making a change would result in paying twice as much. - EV charging plug incentives: many utilities offer a cash rebate check for people who install Level 2 chargers at home. Whether you install a Tesla HPWC or just a NEMA 14-50 plug you can be eligible for a cash rebate from your utility simply for installing the charger (most will check your vehicle registration when applying to make sure you re not just getting a rebate for installing a NEMA plug for a dryer or whatever). - Carpool HOV lane access: many states with carpool lanes on the highways offer access stickers to PEV s like Teslas so as to incentivize ownership. Not a cash rebate but possibly a time rebate to owners. I think this one is obvious to people with carpool lanes that have seen PEV s using them but it s another great reason. - City direct cash rebate for EV purchases. For example Jacksonville FL offers a $1 000 rebate for purchase OR lease of a qualified PEV. So while Florida itself does not offer a state EV rebate like other states some cities do offer a cash rebate. It s worth looking into whether your city offers a rebate separate from state rebates or in place of them. - Parking fees. Many states and or cities do not charge for public or street parking of PEV s so look into which city you re in and their policies before you pay for parking on the street. Examples include: Las Vegas NV Salt Lake City UT etc. - No emissions testing. Don t forget that states that require emissions testing have a fee associated with the test (not counting the cost to repair if possible) so that s a reduction in operating costs for the vehicle. As EV adoption increases and the fleet of EV s surges in the US you can expect to see these rebates and incentives fade away. Also you can expect costs to normalize to what ICE vehicle owners have to pay e.g.- California EV annual $100 fee to recoup the loss of gas fuel tax not collected on EV s while still traveling California roads. So for now if you re looking to get a Tesla make sure you re not leaving money at the table. | 2017-08-20 17:11:01 | 45 | On the flip side be aware of factors that may go the other way. In Idaho instead of an incentive it looks like there s an additional fee for EVs to make up for all the taxes you won t be paying when you don t buy gas. | 2017-08-20 21:12:36 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,527 |
Bluetooth device profile support | This is going to be an obscure question directed at a subset of a subset of people but has anyone managed to pair a bluetooth media player or communications device to their car and have the audio come through? Specifically I m trying to get an Icom UT-133A amateur radio device to connect to my Model 3 (which I can do) and play its audio (which I can t seem to). The Icom device says it supports HFP HSP and SPP and from what I can tell the Model 3 should also support at least HFP and HSP. I think my issue is that I can t figure out how to get my car to start asking for audio. Any chance any of you have experienced this and found a solution? | 2021-03-08 21:05:32 | 10 | I wonder if it s connecting via Bluetooth but doesn t know what to do because the device isn t reporting that it can handle phone calls. | 2021-03-08 22:09:43 | 5 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 2,967 |
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