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Direct Response to SB 1415 from Senator Hancock | For those that don t know Senator Hancock issued a response to his bill that many here deemed to be the end of Tesla service centers in Texas. He basically says his bill has no intention of prohibiting OEMs from servicing their own vehicles and that his billed has been misinterpreted by the media. [https: senate.texas.gov members d09 press en p20190318a.pdf](https: senate.texas.gov members d09 press en p20190318a.pdf) I read the response and offered my take on how the wording does not necessarily mean doom and gloom for Tesla service centers in Texas in [another post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments b2hvj6 texas_sb_1415_national_concern eiu6atp). I went ahead and emailed Hancock s contact in his press release and this is what they had to say: > Caity and Senator Hancock > > Your[ press release](https: senate.texas.gov members d09 press en p20190318a.pdf) states that SB 1415 won t impact how cars from any manufacturer are serviced and repaired. After reading the bill can you please explain how exactly this is the case? Section C talks about OEMs being prohibited from having any stake with any franchise dealerships and that some of the activities that dealerships are involved in include servicing and repair. But since Tesla and other OEMs like Rivian and John Deer do not have any dealerships then this bill would NOT apply to them at all? Is that correct? > > \-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > FROM: Caity Jackson < [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])\> > > Yes your interpretation sounds accurate. Thank you for taking the time to contact us directly to clarify. > > When reading legislation it s helpful to note that the language that is underlined is new language provided by the bill the language with a line through it is being removed from code by the bill and the rest is already current statute. Below is a full reply: > > The current definition of franchised dealer in Texas code is: (16) Franchised dealer means a person who: (A) holds a franchised motor vehicle dealer s license issued by the board under this chapter and Chapter 503 Transportation Code and (B) is engaged in the business of buying selling or exchanging new motor vehicles and servicing or repairing motor vehicles under a manufacturer s warranty at an established and permanent place of business under a franchise in effect with a manufacturer or distributor. [https: statutes.capitol.texas.gov SOTWDocs OC htm OC.2301.htm](https: statutes.capitol.texas.gov SOTWDocs OC htm OC.2301.htm) > > That seems to be where the confusion is coming from… > > **SB 1415 does not change the definition of franchised dealer or dealership. ** It simply references the various elements of the existing definitions for the sake of adding clarifying language that to use the Senator s apples and oranges analogy from [his statement](https: senate.texas.gov members d09 press en p20190318a.pdf) a manufacturer of an orange MAY own an interest in a dealership that buys sells exchanges services or repairs an apple. The key language in the bill is same type. Is that clear? That s why he called it a step in the free market direction the law as-is has been interpreted as banning manufacturers of certain types of vehicles from selling vehicles other than what they manufacture and we re trying to correct that. > > **Secondly the bill (and the portion of code it s modifying) is about dealers and dealerships not service or repair centers.** It just references servicing and repairing as examples of things that dealers and dealerships do *per the definition already codified elsewhere in statute*. Since we are not modifying the actual definition just referencing it Tesla service centers would not be impacted by this legislation in any way. > > All of this notwithstanding as the Senator s statement said he was open to belts-and-suspenders language to assuage anyone s concerns… instead we seem to be on the receiving end of a misinformation campaign. > > Again thank you for taking the time to contact us directly and we d be happy to help provide any additional necessary clarification. > > Best > > Caity & #x200B With these responses unless there s more legal quirks in the language of the bill I believe we have nothing to worry about concerning Tesla service centers not just in Texas but in the entire US. & #x200B | 2019-03-19 03:14:56 | 53 | Then what exactly does this bill do? In simple language please Why is this bill necessary? | 2019-03-19 03:18:43 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,124 |
Wishful Thinking: Tesla and Xbox Project xCloud Together Would be Awesome | I just tweeted this. I don t expect to get a response but I think it would be awesome if Microsoft and Tesla could work together to bring Project xCloud to Tesla vehicles. This would make those lunch breaks at work even more enjoyable. https: twitter.com ericdgarrison status 1235240866828210177?s=21 | 2020-03-04 16:33:32 | 49 | The Honda E has an HDMI port and so should every Tesla. Change my mind. | 2020-03-04 16:38:22 | 35 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 23,802 |
Wireless Charging Pad reliable? | I have a MY and the initial wireless charging pad would only charge a phone for about 5 seconds before the charging stopped. We tried multiple phones with and without cases and determined it was defective in some manner. Made an appointment and got it replaced. The new one works fine on phones without cases but won t charge more than a few seconds before disconnecting on phones with cases. I exclusively wireless charge my phone (Galaxy S9+ with USB C port issue) and I ve bought different brands of pads and stands to use with it and my wife s new Iphone never had an issue except with the Tesla pad. Is this a common occurrence or have I gotten a replacement sub standard pad? I m not saying it s 100% defective as it works without a case but I ve never had a problem with this case on any other wireless charging option. I don t want to be a difficult customer and would consider a third party option if they exist and are of a higher quality. Edit: U omnisync solved my issue may not be the same for all but basically the bottom of cases are to thick to let the phone slide down far enough. https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments i7cdi3 wireless_charging_pad_reliable g15atpd | 2020-08-10 20:02:57 | 17 | While I can t comment on reliability as I haven t had it for too long I can conclude that the wireless charger on the Model Y just isn t that good in general it seems. Left my phone on it for well over an hour today to charge and the percentage didn t change at all during the charge. I did make sure every so often that it was charging but the percentage didn t change at all. May just invest in that Nomad charger. They are a great company. | 2020-08-10 21:37:41 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,793 |
Tesla Model Y LR gets range increase in Germany | Up to 565 533km (from 507). [https: driveteslacanada.ca model-y tesla-model-y-gets-range-increase-in-germany-performance-deliveries-begin-in-march ](https: driveteslacanada.ca model-y tesla-model-y-gets-range-increase-in-germany-performance-deliveries-begin-in-march ) | 2022-01-14 09:14:37 | 156 | Improved in The Netherlands: - 507 km to 565 km (351 miles) (LR 19”) - 503 km to 533 km (331 miles) (LR 20”) - 488 km to 514 km (319 miles) (P 21”) Wishful thinking speculation: preparing for 4860 cells? Realistic thinking: It s now certified WLTP vs. (conservative) previous estimation. | 2022-01-14 13:19:18 | 38 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 19,255 |
Automatically change lanes without requiring driver input | Does anyone know how EAP s Automatically change lanes without requiring driver input works when it triggers etc? I had assumed it was something like when you put on your turn signal it would automatically change lanes for you accordingly. But upon further consideration hitting a turn signal is driver input. Does it mean it will change lanes to avoid a crash? Or will it change lanes based on my destination like when it determines that I need to get over to exit the highway? (Seems possible since it can also transition between highways.) Or if I tell it I want to go 80mph will it calculate the locations and speeds of all of the cars in all of the lanes ahead of & beside me then brilliantly maneuver among all the lanes to get me out into the open where I can cruise? (Of course not... but that d be sweet.) | 2017-08-17 15:30:27 | 32 | No one really knows. It isn t operational in anyone s cars. The closest now is that the car will change lanes if you put the blinker on but it s still up to you to check the lane is clear and initiate it. Presumably it means all the reasons one would change lanes now. Exits emergency vehicles getting out from behind grandma etc. Edit for clarity: As I understand it it won t change lanes *right into* a car but it s up to you to check there s not someone currently 40 feet back going 30 MPH faster than you that will be where you want to be by the time you get there. So that in effect is still you checking to see it s clear. | 2017-08-17 15:42:30 | 26 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 9 |
Is there a current 20% smaller comparison car to the Model S? | Now that the hype train is really starting to roll and everyone is considering how much money will be needed to reserve a 3 come March I m wondering if we can start looking at some of the real comparisons. I m hoping someone out there already has a comparison vehicle(s) size wise that we can use to visualize what the difference is with 20% of the Model S. The only real information we have so far is that the 3 will be 20% smaller and have approximately 200 miles of range. What currently selling ICE vehicles are 20% smaller than the S? | 2015-09-04 16:02:08 | 10 | Elon said the Model 3 will be 20% smaller in volume which is almost exactly the same size as a bmw 3 series. | 2015-09-04 16:14:56 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,136 |
Tan vs Black? | Hey guys! I m absolutely torn on whether I should get a Black interior or Tan interior with my car. The car is a red P85 with grey wheels and I do like the way that the red trim on the black interior matches the exterior paint. However I am in AZ and have to park outdoors so I don t want it to get too hot. Please give me any input you guys may have! | 2013-04-28 00:42:53 | 6 | I have signature red... Went with the black... I have had tan interiors in the past the issue I have is with jeans... Both black and blue jeans bleed color... If you wear jeans a lot you will stain your seats... | 2013-04-28 00:55:28 | 7 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 18,222 |
Dammit. | I have always appreciated what Tesla has done but because there is no physical store near me I was never inclined to really look at one. I was in the market for a new family car but Tesla never crossed my mind. Earlier this month I put down a deposit for a BMW X5 Diesel. While waiting for my wife at the mall yesterday I looked on the Track My BMW site to see that it finally hit production. I was excited my wife was excited! Still at the mall we see a Tesla at a pop up store and fell so in love with the car. My wife sits in it I gawk at the cargo space and its ease of use. No engine no transmission no oil no gas.... My goodness. The only thing that I felt lacking was the interior. I feel it s quality is between a nicer VW and a BMW but it s still very very good. Anyways I argued with myself all night to see if I wanted to cancel my X5 order and lose the deposit. I just can t do it though. We frequently make 400 mile trips which have no Superchargers along the way. Another baby on the way would definitely make things tighter in the car as well. Ah well hopefully in a couple years I ll have a Tesla as my own vehicle. | 2015-07-16 17:06:08 | 8 | > hopefully in a couple years I ll have a Tesla as my own vehicle. I never get tired of seeing this. It would be interesting to get a poll of non-tesla owners to see how many plan on buying a Tesla as their next vehicle. Welcome to the future. | 2015-07-16 17:29:36 | 9 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 4,804 |
Round of applause for Customer Service | This has been the best dealership service relationship I ve ever had. I ve had my Certified PreOwned 2013 P85+ for 2 weeks now. Once the honeymoon phase settled down I noticed a clunk in the rear when shifting from reverse to drive there was a chunk of the front driver Tire sidewall missing when i got the car and the ambient lighting was not working on the driver side door. Tesla has replaced the driver unit tire and light without the slightest reluctance. I understand its under warranty and SHOULD be covered but the eagerness to please and positive demeanor from everyone at Tesla has been stellar. I ll be putting a deposit down for a Model 3 for my wife on Mar 31st. | 2016-03-10 22:58:11 | 67 | :) I echo your sentiments! I ve had my CPO 2013 P85+ for about six weeks and my experience with the service center has been better than any other car I ve owned. Nothing but good things to say. | 2016-03-10 23:01:30 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,639 |
Why aren t gas stations putting charging stations on their properties? | Since gas stations make the bulk of their money selling snacks drinks etc. and virtually nothing on the sale of fuel why aren t they giving Tesla space for superchargers? Even generic chargers where the gas station could charge a reasonable price. While I understand most gas stations are oil franchises that would see this as a threat there are plenty of independent gas companies that would be happy to work with station owners. | 2016-04-20 09:02:37 | 45 | Many private gas stations probably will consider adding fast DC charging to their properties. Though I suspect it s more likely that we will see fast DC charging spots rolled out by fast food chains particularly those that offer 24 hour service near major freeways highways. The cost of an electrified Fast DC spot is somewhere between $10k and $30k based on the number of spots electrified existing infrastructure and the charge rate. I suspect many of the existing 40kW 50kW spots will be too slow for most people where most would prefer 100kW+ which are currently only offered by Tesla Superchargers. This will permit more of the 3 hours driving 30-60 minutes charging paradigm. | 2016-04-20 11:17:04 | 33 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 23,410 |
Dry Electrode Batteries vs Solid State Batteries | What is the difference between the Maxwell dry electrode batteries and solid state batteries? According to Wikipedia solid state batteries use solid electrodes and a solid electrolyte instead of the liquid or polymer electrolytes found in lithium-ion or lithium polymer batteries . It seems like Maxwell s batteries meet that criteria but I ve never heard anyone refer to them as solid state batteries. So what is the difference? Update: The answer is that dry electrode batteries still use a liquid electrolyte while solid state batteries use a solid electrolyte. Thanks [croninsiglos](https: www.reddit.com user croninsiglos )! I was confusing a solid coating of the electrode with a solid electrolyte. | 2019-05-27 22:35:39 | 21 | Electrodes are solid in today s lithium cells. Maxwell s tech is in the manufacturing process. It eliminates a solvent that requires a lot of expensive heating to evaporate the solvent. | 2019-05-28 01:10:29 | 13 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 5,713 |
Model S rear door window glass repair | So I had heard that this was not an uncommon occurrence with the Model S and it finally happened to my car. Someone broke the rear passenger side door s window and stole some stuff. Actually they first broke the little triangular window just aft of the door s window couldn t reach what they wanted and then proceeded (apparently) to break the main door window. Anyway wondering if I should take the car to a glass shop or to a Tesla approved body shop. I m thinking the body shop but thought I d reach out here and see what experience if any others have had. Please chime in if you ve been through this before. & #x200B UPDATE 08OCT2018: Called my local Service King who did an excellent job on some minor body work recently. Asked if they do glass repairs they said yes normally but not for Tesla - we have to wait too long for parts so we refer you directly to the Tesla Service Centers. So I was on hold with the TSC just now for 30 minutes and got disconnected. Have an appt for tomorrow. We ll see. I m sure they ll just refer me to a glass shop. Ugh. | 2018-10-08 00:23:48 | 10 | I had my front glass hit. Called safelite and they referred to a shop that could work with Tesla s. Sc won t do it | 2018-10-08 02:09:32 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,677 |
Tesla brand 3rd most sold in Norway during February likely to be 1st in March | Values from [car sales in Norway in february 2019](https: www.dn.no motor tesla-model-3-mot-toppen 2-1-554673) are here. Tesla model 3 was delivery only for 2 weeks it is already in the top of the EVs sold in February 791 units. Note that 40% of all cars sold in February were electric cars. Therefore Tesla is the 3rd brand with more cars sold (1016) behind VW (1702) and Toyota (1069). I am 100% sure that in March it will be the most sold brand and Model 3 will be the most sold model. | 2019-03-01 15:23:30 | 256 | Base model 3 isnt even released in EU right? | 2019-03-02 00:08:09 | 6 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 19,708 |
[DISCUSSION] Looks like 2018.18.13 introduced cabin overheat protection for the Model 3? | I parked my car in the sun. I went back home to my bedroom. 20 minutes later I hear the AC turn on (car is right outside my window). I checked the app and the temperature dropped from 104 to 94. It seems to be going up and down between 94 and 100. Before this update the interior used to be around 144F in the sun. I did not press the Turn On button in climate so it seems to be an automatic thing. Anyone else noticing the same? Or is it a bug that s causing it to waste battery? I don t believe there s a way to turn this off in the Model 3. | 2018-05-28 18:42:38 | 79 | If I m reading the comments correctly this is automatically being enabled with no ui to disable it? As someone without charging at home and getting my car Saturday this is concerning to me. | 2018-05-28 20:18:29 | 16 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 24,098 |
Any 3 Owners in LA? | I am going to be in the LA area until Monday and would love to buy dinner for a model 3 owner and talk about the car. I am a little afraid that I will have to purchase the car before seeing it in person so if you would like a free meal let me know! | 2017-11-22 20:36:14 | 19 | I just saw two of them with in a week. (one of which I saw minutes ago.) If you are in the SpaceX area you might see one | 2017-11-22 21:42:40 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,581 |
Smart Preconditioning during vacation | So I have been out of the town for two weeks now and it seems my car s smart preconditioning has been faithfully started at the same usual time even though I haven t driven my car for two weeks (I am collecting my car s data). Hasn t its logic changed? In winter it didn t turn on at my usual morning time if there is couple of days of irregularity (like weekend). FYI looks like my car is losing about 3 miles day because of it. | 2017-08-18 21:40:18 | 18 | I don t know anyone who keeps this function enabled since it s so bad at figuring out when to turn it on. Unfortunately I don t think you can disable it remotely. | 2017-08-18 21:51:42 | 17 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 17,308 |
Been using Powerwalls for 4 months and suddenly confused about how they work | I have solar + Powerwalls but for me the solar is kind of a coincidence. I mostly want the Powerwalls as a backup system. The last 4 months have been great and everything seemed to work as expected. Today the panels are covered in snow and we had a power outage... The batteries kept me going through the outage (awesome) but are now down to 50% and won t recharge even though the grid is backup. A Tesla service person they can t recharge from the grid because I have solar. If that s true that s very disappointing... that can t be right can it? That means my solar panels are actually a liability for outage purposes. To be very clear I do not care about tax incentives... I know there is a tax reason to only charge batteries from solar and I am not interested in it. I just want to be able to charge my batteries from whatever power source is available grid or solar or whatever. Is that possible or not? | 2018-11-16 21:09:50 | 36 | > When Powerwall is installed without solar it can charge from the grid to support backup operation. When Powerwall is installed with solar it is not currently able to charge from the grid. Powerwall installations on new and existing solar systems are designed to qualify for the Federal Investment Tax Credit which requires 100% charging from solar. Powerwall installations must also comply with rules around grid charging which vary by utility. https: www.tesla.com support energy learn powerwall functionality | 2018-11-16 22:00:53 | 19 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 2,779 |
[Discussion] Display brightness to 0% ? | We are taking the X on a roadtrip for spring break. We will be doing most of our driving in the dark when the kids are asleep. Is there a way to turn the center console to 0% and keep the driver s display to 1 or 2%? Effective I would like to be able to turn the center console off. We are driving mostly on one interstate and I don t really need the map etc. Keeping the driver s display on very low will let me monitor SoC and the consumption graph without ruining my night vision. Thoughts? | 2018-03-05 17:57:52 | 9 | Put the Center display into cleaning mode and it s basically all off | 2018-03-05 18:00:11 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,275 |
What are the possibilities of a lower priced Tesla model in the near future? | I had preordered the Model 3 but after looking at it for a few months i realized the Model 3 base model would not be affordable at my current incoming and cancelled the order. I started looking at alternative electric vehicles and had no desire to buy them. Anyways I started wondering if in the next 5 years would Tesla produce a even lower priced Tesla model? what do you think will be the next model after 3? or do you think they would lower the price for Model 3 sometime? just looking for your thoughts Edit: thanks for the posts. I never thought of Tesla as a luxury brand as it was more of a electric vehicles company. Of course it is a high end car brand but electric vehicles to the masses will likely happen with the buses and not cars I guess. Thanks! | 2017-02-06 02:13:35 | 21 | Tesla does not plan to make a cheaper model. Tesla believes you could put a Model 3 on its mobility network and it would earn enough to pay its own car payments. So if you can t afford a free car you should just use their mobility network and not own your own. | 2017-02-06 02:23:18 | 29 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,516 |
Must have accessories for M3? | Picking up my M3 this weekend and was wondering what are some must have accessories out there. So far I ve picked up the following: * Cup holder inserts * Aluminum performance pedals * Pet rear seat cover * Center console organizer I m also planning to pick up a wireless phone charger and all weather floor mats for the interior and frunk trunk areas but wasn t sure what brand to go with. Suggestions are welcome! | 2019-03-22 00:14:42 | 16 | The sidebar has a great list! https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki accessories Model 3 specific: https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1654H7GQK0fNVLdYJxmh00kt3Hv248IJRzm0LsFsQvIc edit#gid=0 | 2019-03-22 00:20:16 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,216 |
Does ANYONE know which batteries Tesla is using in the powerwall powerpack? | Elon said that the cells they are using in the powerpack are 200 wh kg but he didn t say which specific cell they are using. Any information (with a source) would be appreciated. | 2015-05-03 03:52:32 | 8 | Tesla s main mission is to find more use cases for the 18650 li-ion battery. First was car. Next is house. No source just using my noodle. | 2015-05-03 18:16:32 | 5 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 5,320 |
Got an insurance quote on new Model 3 | I really did not want to do this but I was going to have to do it sooner or later. I have GEICO removed my 2012 Infiniti M37X and added 2017 Tesla Model 3.. Insurance went up a whole $43 over 6 months.. $7 a month... SWEET!!!!! Now if June July of 2018 would just get here!!! | 2017-07-19 17:25:29 | 77 | When I got a model S Progressive was less than half geico s prices. Make sure you shop around. | 2017-07-19 18:46:22 | 44 | Tesla insurance pricing comparison | 7,312 |
Why don t Tesla set up a webcam of the gigafactory construction? | A lot of us are very interested in the current progress of the Gigafactory however we have to rely on third party sources and the occasional official tweet in order to track the progress of the project. We know Tesla isn t particularly bothered about us knowing how it s going (Think of the drone footage actually on-site showing the construction). So why don t they put up an inexpensive webcam? My local sports team have done that for the new stand they are building and many other projects of interest do that to (Freedom Tower in New York or The Shard in London for example). What s your two cents on the matter? | 2015-08-28 11:29:04 | 29 | They have one setup. The question should be: Why don t Tesla give us a livestream of the webcam at the Gigafactory? The answer is probably that there could be proprietary things they can t show and they don t want to have the trouble of making sure it doesn t get pickup by the camera. It s not just Tesla you know. There s Panasonic and then Panasonic is bringing on a dozen other companies. | 2015-08-28 11:35:28 | 31 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 23,486 |
PSA: If you don t want to zoom to 50 in a 25 zone set the Relative cruising speed to -20 to always engage AP at the current speed | AP can t read speed signs yet as of v42 but it does allow you to set **negative relative speed**. Occasionally the geo-location based speed limit is wrong. Setting the limit to negative 20 will allow you to engage AP at current speed. & #x200B AP can t read speed signs yet as of v42 but it does allow you to set **negative relative speed**. Occasionally the geo-location based speed limit is wrong. Setting the limit to negative 20 will allow you to engage AP at current speed. | 2018-11-09 17:42:33 | 18 | Or just push the cruise stalk up down to activate TACC at current speed then double-pull for AP. Obviously S X only. | 2018-11-09 18:45:25 | 11 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 14,837 |
Equivalent power loss with age when compared to ICE cars? | Now I ve joined the queue for a model 3 I was wondering if EV s suffer from the same problem ICE cars do with age. My Golf had 200bhp when new but now it s around 8 years old I am sure the dyno will show a lot less. Is this the case with EV s and Teslas in particular (as I know they have better management of the battery than other EV s) If they don t couldn t this be classed as a feature? Get your Model 3 with 400bhp (I am hoping for that anyway ) and in 10 years time it will still have 400bhp and drive just like when you bought it...just a thought | 2016-04-15 18:35:36 | 6 | I don t have any data to back this up but if we just consider the differences in how an ICE and EV powertrains differ the EV will maintain more of its stock power. Tesla s motors are brushless 3-phase motors. The only parts making contact with other surfaces would be shaft bearings and gears. Example of a 3 phase motor cut-away: https: upload.wikimedia.org wikipedia commons a a9 Rotterdam_Ahoy_Europort_2011_(14).JPG ICE powertrains are dependent on piston rings to prevent the combustion gases from entering the internal crank case of the engine and it s not a perfect seal. Hence why engines have a crank case breather. If we also include all of the internal bearings that wear out oil quality fuel quality intake & exhaust valve seals etc etc. I have no doubt modern electric motors are more robust against performance degradation. The main issue people have with EV powertrains is range. How long the batter will last. This is independent from the powertrain (electric motor inverter and gear box). Those are my $0.02 and this is coming from a mechanical engineer with 8yrs experience on diesel engine development. Edit: link was not working since it has () in it. | 2016-04-15 19:07:45 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,042 |
Tesla rental in Edmonton Alberta | I m flying into Edmonton Alberta in late August for a vacation. I plan out to travel to Sylvan Lake as well as White Court. I will need to rent a car and I figure this would be a good time to try a Tesla. I hoping to buy one in the next 3-4 years and I m itching to get behind the wheel. Does anyone know of any rental companies with Tesla s in the fleets? | 2019-04-28 20:40:24 | 5 | Turo shows zero electric cars... | 2019-04-28 20:43:18 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,159 |
Dashcam in Austria | Hi I just wanted to ask if it is true that in Austria dashcams are forbidden and when you have some built-in system you have to cover the lenses. And that you can record just the aftermath of the accident but not the accident itself (there are some hefty fines involved). Somehow I cannot wrap my head around that. I kinda understand that maybe it is because of protection of other s privacy but given that Tesla cars rely on their cameras so much it is kinda weird. I certainly hope that for Tesla owners it just means that you cannot save the recordings to your USB drive. I would assume less troubles for Teslas in such a rich and green country with EV chargers even in the smallest villages. And what about Sentry mode? How does this ban on dashcams apply here? | 2019-04-29 09:29:25 | 11 | yepp dashcams are forbidden. For the exact lesislation i would actually ask a service center... ap isn t forbidden but still sends data to tesla Edit: actually they are legal: https: www.oeamtc.at thema vorschriften-strafen zulaessigkeit-von-dashcams-im-oesterreichischen-strassenverkehr-16180594 (german) | 2019-04-29 10:55:43 | 5 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 4,835 |
Delivery frustrating for the rest of you? | First of all I understand and accept that this is 100% a first world problem and I will probably sound entitled as shit compared to the rest of you who may have waited weeks to months to years. Last Tuesday after a ton of number crunching and sleeping on it for a while we (wife and I)decided that it was a good idea and I placed the downpayment and got everything started I had already been preapproved for a loan and started researching power options for the home. between then and friday normal bank shit happens insurance talks with the power company delivery date set for this coming wednesday the 17th I installed 240v (datacenter technician here) and was generally feeling good. Friday comes I get a call from tesla saying my M3 had arrived at the destination and could be picked up saturday.#excitedasfuck saturday I am cleaning out our trade in getting all of the cheerios and whatnot out of all of the crannies I get another call from the local tesla delivery destination that one of my seatbelt sensors failed final inspection and they couldn t release the car I get it it s a safety thing and needs to be fixed. they say monday at the earliest. #sadface I called this morning and waited a few hours to hear back apparently the entire seat is fucked and they re switching me to a different VIN they had available it s already been inspected and passed cool. at this point I m a little tired of all of the rollercoaster because I am excited and keep feeling like it s getting close then it s not 10 minutes later I get an email saying my order agreement has changed and I now owe another $1600 it s because the VIN they are switching me to has the performance wheels they didn t let me know that was the case ahead of time or anything so I about panicked since my bank closed funding and sent them a check already. I call them back to be all WTF and they explain the wheels and they are waiting on approval from corporate to switch the wheels to match my order. I have a delivery scheduled for 10AM tomorrow but I feel a lot more stressed about this than I feel I would have been if they simply kept the original delivery date. anyway end of rant TL DR: I am spoiled and bitching about minor inconveniences and getting my car a day earlier than originally anticipated. this sounds a lot more ridiculous as I am reading it. & #x200B EDIT: clarified a confusing sentence & #x200B UPDATE: they were unwilling to swap or comp the wheels I have now been assigned a VIN that is still in assembly in fremont. as supplemental info my Bank already funded the loan the car is paid in full I m liable for the loan and gonna be really close to having to pay 2 loans my Tesla Advisor is MIA. that was a nice kick in the dick | 2019-07-15 17:33:16 | 21 | how old are you? #justwondering & #x200B but yea - i had delivery issues too. Service afterwards sucked too. Tbh if their cars werent so awesome tesla as a company would be fucked | 2019-07-15 18:15:29 | 13 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 4,964 |
2020 M3 radio volume automatically @max volume when connected to Bluetooth or connected to my iPhone through usb cable | My 2020 model 3 has done some very weird things lately. I ve only had the car for 1 month and I don t know why these things keep happening. 1) I always have my Bluetooth on and when I get in my m3 & open the Spotify app the first thing I do is lower the volume both on my phone and in the car before choosing a song (because it happened to me once so this is now a habit). It doesn t make a difference though because as soon as I hit play the volume automatically blares bull blast in my car. I tried connect to the usb Apple cable directly to the car to avoid this but it doesn t make a difference either. Now I have to choose nature sound station and let it blow full blast then lower the volume and choose a song playlist before I drive off which is EXTREMELY ANNOYING. 2) After not using my car for 3 days I turned it on and put it in reverse. My screen was completely frozen. I couldn t do anything so I googled it and did a reset with the two buttons on the steering wheel. (This happened 3 days ago). I don t know why it happened but for a car that only has 324 miles on it it s quite frustrating. 3) Today as I was leaving the Walgreens parking lot I put the car in reverse and the backup camera was all black. I put it back in park and again in reverse. Still black. I put it in drive and then reverse still black. I have no idea why these things happen. I don t know if they are glitches or if this is normal for Tesla s. Any and all info is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. | 2020-05-04 07:16:53 | 5 | \#1: That sucks lol. \#2: Reset should do the trick. If this repeatedly happens probably not a good sign. \#3: This can happen once in a while. It s usually a glitch. But considering your other 2 issues are electronic based it could be related maybe not. I get this once in a while. I usually just park really fast and then reverse. When did you last update the car? | 2020-05-04 09:45:51 | 2 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 539 |
Hansshow DIY Audio kit for SR+ review | I ve been always wanting to upgrade my audio in my SR+. I think it sounds really good but wanted the full sounds. From looking at all the forums (here and on the Tesla forums) I was hesitant on buying the full professional kit. I think there are a few kinks left. I didn t hear a lot about the DIY kits and for 80 bucks I figured if I don t like it I can sell it. I just got the DIY kit installed. It took literally 30-40 minutes to install it. Ending results for my SR+ people. BUY IT. You don t lose your bass and having the added speakers that make a world of a difference. I am very happy with the sound. I m sure you all have the link to it but I will share it again for your pleasure. & #x200B [https: www.hautopart.com product model3-sr-premium-audio-upgrade ](https: www.hautopart.com product model3-sr-premium-audio-upgrade ) | 2020-12-19 21:47:54 | 16 | Do you wish you bought the amp and sub? | 2020-12-19 22:28:49 | 3 | Tesla sound system comparisons | 7,483 |
Tesla Model 3 Wheel flys off ( or does it? ) causing celeb crash and Tesla Lawsuit | [http: m.tmz.com #!2019 05 31 aladdin-star-mena-massoud-suing-tesla-lawsuit ](http: m.tmz.com #!2019 05 31 aladdin-star-mena-massoud-suing-tesla-lawsuit ) & #x200B I m personalty going to call bullshit. if this did happen as he said.. he would be 1 in what almost 400k cars to have this happen? Can t wait for them to pull the logs on this one.. i m going to instead say drunk or on autopilot and dude not paying attention then trying to blame Tesla because he s an idiot. & #x200B If it really did happen then color me pink... | 2019-05-31 18:10:41 | 19 | The rim still appears to still be attached to the hub knuckle and brake assemblies so he s saying that the entire right front suspension assembly came-off? That generally only happens *after* the car hits something with the wheel turned hard-outboard like a high curb or a tree. I suppose a tie rod separation could precipitate the impact but it doesn t seem likely. | 2019-05-31 18:28:20 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,129 |
Carvana | Does anyone have any insight into why Carvana has so many used Model 3s with less than 1000 miles? I there also similar ones on Tesla s used site. Is Tesla using Carvana to clear inventory? | 2019-10-28 13:05:34 | 40 | OP is probably on to something. I spot checked a few of Carvana vehicles and they all were Tesla CPOs about a month ago with nice markup of $4-6k added. | 2019-10-28 17:01:44 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,719 |
Where did the center console go from the Tesla Store? | Only the rear premium console is available: http: shop.teslamotors.com search?x=0& y=0& q=center+console | 2016-05-05 07:47:01 | 5 | They re currently working on a fully integrated center console which includes replacing the center armrest block between the seats. The new integrated console will come standard in the new Model S and has rear cupholders as well. Tesla said that it would be added to the Tesla Store a few weeks ago so it should be added sometime in the near future. | 2016-05-05 08:37:40 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,203 |
Need a windshield - use Safelite or Tesla if insurance isn t paying for it? | A bouncing bolt on the interstate put a decent dent in the windshield last Thursday and scheduled a replacement through Geico with Safelite immediately to get a replacement installed on Wednesday morning (two days away). I just received a text from Safelite cancelling the installation with no explanation and I m rethinking whether I want to use Safelite or go with Tesla. Anyone with experience either way either using Safelite or Tesla for a model 3 windshield replacement? Thanks in advance for any assistance | 2019-08-12 22:23:37 | 12 | Safelite has replaced both my front and back windshields and both times did a great job. Tesla glass takes a long time to get in. Try to get in touch with someone who is actually physically at your local Safelite shop to inquire about the lead time to get the glass in - their call center people are completely useless. | 2019-08-12 22:40:30 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,659 |
I wrote an open letter to joining the new Berlin team | Hello everyone maybe some of you read that Tesla has opened applications for the Berlin new Giga4. I ve applied and I also wanted to send a letter presenting my background but there s no way to do that privately. So [I ve written one on Medium](https: medium.com @AndreiStroescu1 an-open-application-letter-to-tesla-4e89e817ad9f) public. I ve checked the r teslamotors rules but if this in any way inappropriate I apologize it s not my intention. I just want to send out a message I m very passionate about Tesla as I am sure everyone is here. Otherwise feel free to ask anything about Tesla in Berlin Europe I ve been following the company since 2012 originally from Romania. Big fan been reading a lot on all the markets products Tesla is involved in. | 2019-11-13 00:37:38 | 8 | 1. What position did you apply for? 2. What does average European (non-Tesla lover) think of Tesla? 3. Do you think over-time Europe would allow for self-driving cars? Or will they regulated the hell out of it to the point it become not useful? 4. Do you think Europeans would buy Tesla other products (ex. Tesla power wall)? 5. What does the average European think of Elon Musk? | 2019-11-13 00:50:40 | 9 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 9,337 |
The organization Reveal and it s top people have gone from falsifying information regrading Tesla s safety record to now pushing a conspiracy theory that Elon Musk is an anti-semitic white supremacist... | First...quick context... Reveal is an organization that is supposed to be investigating bad things. They ve made up some blatantly false allegations against Tesla recently. Because of that they ve gone balls to the wall and are trying to get anything to stick to the wall... -Exhibit A: https: www.revealnews.org As you can see there are three wonderful anti-Tesla pieces on their homepage at the same time. Huh...seems a wee-little-bit biased but whatever... Now...as you know...these reports have had little to no impact on anyone s perception of Tesla. Tesla has admitted some shortfalls but nothing close to the extent these articles are trying to persuade readers to believe. If you hate Tesla this hasn t changed your mind...and if you love Tesla this hasn t change your mind.... Enter Al Letson a journalist reporter he is from Reveal. -Exhibit B: https: imgur.com a FBWea8f Here we have someone who is supposed to be a real journalist ignoring the context of multiple conversations the context of an answer to a question and telling his followers & the public that Elon Musk is propagating anti-Jewish sentiment. When someone tells you who they are believe them - a phrase often thrown at racists. He has ALL of the information in front of him to see that isn t the case...and he ignored it willingly...and is trying to convince the public that Elon Musk is a white supremacist. The same guy who is behind the anti-Tesla hit pieces. Later on he deleted the tweet... -Exhibit C: https: twitter.com Al_Letson status 1001118461265772544 Hmmm... He says he deleted the tweet because he was tired of being trolled. AND THEN HE DOUBLES DOWN. Now he accuses Elon Musk of being a secret-closet white supremacist who is being tricky with his racist views. -Exhibit D: https: twitter.com Al_Letson status 1001148960348647424 -Exhibit E: https: twitter.com Al_Letson status 1000988698899447808 He then admits he may be wrong...BUT STILL INSINUATES that Elon Musk is a racist...and says we may not all agree ... MOTHER-F-ER THIS ISN T A DISCUSSION OVER THE LAST PLAY OF THE VIKINGS-SAINTS GAME. THERE IS NO DISCUSSION. HE ISN T A RACIST. The next time ANYONE considers Reveal a legitimate news source please keep in mind the context. Their authors have NO ISSUE with trying to convince the public that Elon Musk is a white-supremacist. If they ll push lies about him being a white supremacist...if they are willing to do that...they will do ANYTHING. Quick Note: I m ignoring Elon s advice to be nice to these people. No. I will not. I won t do it. As someone who is fricken Jewish and has been the victim of real freaking white supremacists it is a disgrace to see people getting away with accusing the CEO of Tesla of racism but still getting to retain their credibility. End Rant. | 2018-05-30 03:52:47 | 271 | If Reveal wants credibility they should fire Al Letson. No other way. He has no regret has been given many opportunities to take back his accusations and hasn t take the opportunity. | 2018-05-30 04:35:54 | 54 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 20,852 |
3 Easy-to-Implement Improvements | Some feature requests are pretty pie-in-the-sky but I imagine these — _especially_ #1 — would be low lift high ROI. Thoughts? Any others? 1. When the car is in drive have the battery icon reveal dismiss the energy projection graph (vs. the charging UI). Energy projection is much more relevant then the charging configuration while in motion. 2. Animated weather radar overlays for premium connectivity subscribers (toggled the same as satellite traffic overlays). Useful good way to help sell premium connectivity. 3. Support for logging into WiFi networks with [“captive portal”](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Captive_portal) access screens ... would be nice when on-campus or near hotels. **Edit (even though it breaks my title):** 4. Overlay (or just a separate JSON output file) so that we know if AP was off on during a Saved Clip | 2020-05-31 19:18:15 | 91 | Weather overlay is a [great idea](https: teslaideas.ideascale.com a dtd Weather-radar-overlay-on-the-map 390518-46665) for long road trips especially. | 2020-05-31 19:54:00 | 41 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 667 |
Would you subscribe to a subreddit which is dedicated to Tesla Software Updates? | Sometimes there are folks who prefer to deep dives into specific areas of Tesla examples being (r Superchargers r TeslaPorn r TeslaAutonomy r TeslaInvestorsClub r TeslaClassifieds). If there was a sub that was dedicated to all software updates across all Tesla product lines would you subscribe? Sometimes the megathreads just don t cut it and it can be quite unwieldy and the lounge doesn t centralize things either when you have a software specific question. I know people hate when there are more subreddits than they need. This would be for folks who don t mind that stuff and would like to partake. I spoke to the other mods and while we don t agree splitting up the sub is a good idea we don t look at it as splitting anything up but it would be a compliment to r TeslaMotors. Well we just so happened to be given r Updates. Anyways nothing is set in stone... well it s there just nothing has been decided on it yet hence this post. r Updates is 11 years old and here s the current description. > Since 2012 Tesla vehicles have been able to receive updates over the air through WiFi or a cellular network. These updates have improved functionality from infotainment performance and Autopilot functionality through fleet learning and data collection. > r Updates goal is to consolidate and share specific experiences wishes and features related to Tesla s software and hardware across all product lines. What do you think? Good or bad looking to get some insight. (I have r TeslaUpdates just in case) | 2019-12-25 22:03:09 | 180 | If rather not. Software updates do provide good content and discussion. Way better than Look at me new Model 3 I just got! | 2019-12-25 22:07:48 | 73 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 23,959 |
[Discussion] Who Has A Mid-Range Model 3 Rear-Wheel Drive? What Do You Think? Automotive | I m on the verge of buying a mid-range Model 3 RWD but that [Engineering Explained](https: youtu.be XzspO4-T7t4) video has freaked me out. Does the car feel sluggish off the line? I had a CVT Audi A4 in the past and that car drove me nuts when the CVT didn t behave. So to the folks that actually own the MR RWD M3 what do you think? Is the acceleration smooth and linear? Does the car feel powerful enough? What kind of efficiency and range are you actually getting? | 2019-01-26 18:22:33 | 22 | I own a MR model 3 (DEC 21 2018). The speed is good enough for me and I watched that video too and I agree if you have the money go for the long range. I could only afford MR and I am very happy with my purchase (owned it for a month). The 0-60 is 5 seconds (close to 5 seconds) and top speed is 125mph but like I said I really like the speed of the car and that s enough for me. I charge my car at 90% which gives me 236 miles and that is more than enough for me in everyday use. I don t know what kind of miles your looking for. I have only charged 100% once with 258 miles and it was very helpful to my trip of 180 miles. But if you have the budget go for the LR more miles would make difference in long road trips IMO. (Hope you find this helpful) if you have more questions you can PM. | 2019-01-26 18:52:49 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,933 |
Transcript of the Gigafactory Q& A - Great stuff on GF1 | OK so I took some time to transcript one finger-at-a-time what I could from the Gigafactory Q& A really interesting discussion. Great content from Elon and JB as ever. https: soundcloud.com thehumanwire analyst-meeting-at-gigafactory-mp-cleaned Intro: Any questions related to the company we are happy to take them but this is the Gigafactory battery pack and we want to kind of skew the questions in that direction. Q1) [1:00] – Thanks You discussed a constantly improving factory over a two year time frame what do you see as the capital intensity of those improvements and do you see if 3rd party automation robotic companies offering solutions that you find acceptable or is that something that Tesla is also working on. Elon: [1:20] - Well I think the value of a company is the degree to which it has differentiated automation. So you think of like an example of popcorn if you make popcorn manually you are going to get thrashed by someone who has a popcorn machine and then you ll get thrashed by someone who has an even better popcorn machine. So differentiated automation I think is fundamental to sustaining a competitive advantage over time. The way that it is typically done in the auto industry is catalogue engineering. So you go to standard equipment suppliers you look at the things that are on the catalogue you pick one of those machines and you put the factory together that way. If you take that path you are going to forgo [..] a competitive advantage [..] from a manufacturing standpoint because if everybody just picks the same set of things from the same catalogue there is no long term advantage. So I think it s incredibly important to invest in the machine that makes the machine and to think about it as a tightly integrated system. Really exciting in the same way we design the car in designing the model S X the model 3 we didn t go and look at parts from all other cars and stick together something that would look like a type of Frankenstein car it would really not be differentiated now there are a few parts in the car not many less than 5% that are in other vehicles. So there is no value to us differentiating them [..] but I think it is really quite fundamental to focus on differentiated automation. I had this realization early last year when I was sleeping in the factory trying to fix manufacturing issues it was like hell […] but I just I did some back of the [..] calculations it was like oww [..] top down [..] Gigafactory [..] kind of like the rocket equation [……] there are two parts to the rocket equation exhaust velocity and the proportion of the rocket that is propellant vs not propellant. So you take that approach to a factory and say what percentage of the volume of the factory is active vs inert that gives you a volumetric efficiency and what is the exit velocity of product from that factory. And something that is considered to be a very good car factory is one that produces a car every 25secs which sounds like a lot but that s 5meters and its only .2 meters per second. A stroll a casual walk is 1m per second so the fastest car factory in the world is 5x slower than a person walking so I think these a lot of room for improvement there. I think ultimately we should be able to get in well excess of 1 meter per second at least 2-3 meters per second exit velocity from the factory. And then the volumetric efficiency of an automotive plant is usually in low single digits in fact I would say for our Freemont plant it s probably maybe 1-2% which is crazy low. There might be some good plants out there that get upto about 5-6% maybe 10% at tops. Now the Gigafactory will be more like 30% 30-40% and its giant now that output of this thing is going to be insane. It also makes sense why velocity is such an important thing if two companies are competing and one factory can crank-up the speed of the factory by a factor of 5 and the other company has to build 5 factories this is not a competition. JB: [6:07] - Now I think it s obvious from the answer but we definitely are investing in that capability ourselves. We work with a few outside automation companies but the majority of the core automation at Tesla is designed and implemented ourselves now you have seen the recent acquisition of ??? engineering now that s a key example of us […] really going deep in automation especially factory based automation now Panasonic does some of these same things you know they build most of their own equipment so the things you saw on the assembly like were in many cases designed by Panasonic it s not outsourced to some other company and its really creating true value there. Elon: [6:45] – We re really going to be quite vertically integrated now were going to take this to a level that s far beyond river rouge ideally I d like to pop this factory over a mine and out comes a car. in the limit that s the ideal situation. Right now let s say with model 3 we have version 0.5 of what we call the alien dreadnaught design by the time it s really working well it should look like an alien dreadnaught it shouldn t look like a normal factory. But even with 0.5 we ve got this global supply chain still where things coming from all over the world and this is actually terrible for efficiency and for reliability of the supply chain. If you go to a global supply chain you are essentially inheriting global force majeure. […] Hurricane earthquake fires floods somewhere in the world guaranteed at any point in time there will be these things. If you have a global supply chain that means you have to take into account global force majeure its crazy. And we literally have had everything from ships sinking to factories burning down anything it s tough to imagine everything. We had frunk carpet that got caught in a shoot-out between drug gangs at the Mexican border. JB: [8:42] - Pollution closures in China Elon: [8:45] - Yeh exactly. It s really ironic we had 2000 cars on ships waiting to dock in China at the end of last year that could dock because of port closures due to smog you know [..] electric cars. [laughter] Q2) [9:15] - Jeff […] research. I want to understand [..] your key competitive advantages strengths. [Lots more waffle] JB: [9:55] - Well you know as we dissed earlier it s many it s not a single silver bullet that makes that possible. I would say the top two things is really around the technology that is in the factory and in the process itself and that not standard its not out of a catalogue its something that we are engineering ourselves and we are improving ourselves with a lot of knowhow and a lot of hard work what that really means is we get higher throughput so we get higher yields we get lower capex per unit output which does translate into end cost because you are depreciating and amortizing the cost so that s a key advantage. We can fit more into a smaller building so that s again lower capex in construction and lower capex building and a lot of that technology is also integrating multiple steps of the supply chain. So we re able to find ways to cut-out some original processes that really weren t needed when the product was not taking a very direct path from its predecessors into its finished goods. So we are doing things [..] that no one else is doing and again that translates into lower cost. Elon: [11:00] - I m going to remark on a number of cases where its digging a ditch filling it in and then digging a ditch again. So take lithium hydroxide as an example we use lithium hydroxide in our cells but most of the lithium out there is the pulp is lithium carbonate so what they will do is they will mine lithium hydroxide turn it into lithium carbonate then turn it back into lithium hydroxide for us. Like ok that s pretty silly. Just give us high-grade lithium hydroxide [..] and don t convert it into one thing and back again But that s what was happening actually for quite a while. JB: [11:40] - And it s interesting to mention also that some of that technology extends into the infrastructure. It may not seem like a really critical thing but manufacturing cells is very infrastructure intensive. […… …. … ] recycled flows and process chemicals and were investing allot of time in innovating those steps. So we are actually inventing and building better ways to make the infrastructure run more efficiently. Infrastructure cost is a reasonably large percentage of cell cost so we can attack that and we have strategic advantages on the final product cost. Elon: [12:27] - I mean our rough estimate is that our output per unit volume at the Gigafactory is three times better than the next best factory in the world and it s a big factory. Q3) [… Indistinguishable voice question …] Elon: [13:21] - I say I don t think about competitors that much I think you should focus on being as good as we possibly can and try to approach the limit of physics. Then for anyone who s not trying to approach the limits of physics is going to lose. And so that s what we try to do here. So you take a physics based approach to manufacturing efficiencies and I think that s fundamentally going to be what is out long term competitive advantage that people just don t realise. I like telling people that this will [….] In the short term our advantage is going to be autonomy short term meaning like the next 2 – 3 years and the long term advantage like say over 10 years Tesla will be the best manufacturer on earth that s our aspiration. I don t know anyone who is actually even attempting to do that maybe there is somebody but I don t know who that will be. Q4) Brain from JP Morgan. You have said before that the Gigafactory is critical to the launch or the model 3 I think here today we can pretty much see that the Gigafactory is pretty much on track. Maybe you can let us know what is going on in Freemont what is the update there any update you can give us on timing for the model 3 launch. Elon: [15:00] The Gigafactory I actually feel pretty good about. In terms of pack production motor production drivetrain power electronics that all seems pretty good. I d say one of the riskiest long-lead items is actually not the super fancy technology stuff there it s actually the fairly basic stuff it s the stamping dyes the stamping dyes for the A class body panels and for the seats. That s the knowledge that I have I think [..] it will take 6 months or so to solve that and there are a lot of machine shops in the world so […] pretty good about solving that and shela? needs to come-in on time on the stamping press so shela? is delivering the advanced stamping press for us in J1[?] so if shela? meets their timeline on the stamping press in then I feel pretty good about the schedule. JB: [16:20] There is a huge amount of work happening in Freemont It s just less obvious than perhaps than here because its reconfiguring things inside the factory. So moving things out of the way spaces getting ready and prepared so that work is all underway and generally tracking on-course. You just don t see it it s not as obvious from the outside as here. Elon: [16:40] The final assembly for the model 3 will be far more advanced than for the model S and X. […] It will be a step change [..] for the S and X. And its [..] in a way that we think we can increase the velocity of the line. That s like the best way to improve if you just speed things up you don t need extra capex you just turn a knob and go faster. Q) …. Why did River Rouge fail and why will this be different. Elon: [18:00] I don t want to say the reason for failure because it will get me in trouble. Q) Bob – DB – You recently had a meeting with president Elect Trump and it turns out there obviously a lot going on there is a change in the political environment and it could affect our expectation of the auto industry it could affect the solar and storage industry…. Elon: [19:00] – I think the president elect definitely has a strong emphasis on US manufacturing we are building he biggest factory in the world here so I think that s something he is very supportive of and jobs in the US very supportive of that on the climate issues it s a little bit more muddled I would say a little mixed. But I think we may see some surprising things from the next administration. I don t think this administration will take a lot of negative action against fossil fuels but it s possible they may take positive action on renewables. Possible. Q) [.. unheard ..] Elon: [20:00] – The federal tax credit the $7500 thing which is going to winding down anyway […] make half a million cars a year that tax credit runs out at a few hundred thousand cars. So it s not something all of the tax incentives either don t scale or they […] disadvantage Tesla. Which is not I mentioned this once before at a [..] but if you take the zero emission vehicle credit […] 14 states we get 50c on the dollar for those but GM can get 100c on the dollar by [..] to the existing program we sell them wholesale and they sell them retail. [… no so interesting …] Q) 22:00 – Right behind these walls the model 3 drive train is being developed. Why here.. [… something about model 3 range..] Elon: [22:50] - Q) [… Not heard ..] 18650 battery choice? Elon: [24:20] [..] Well with respect to battery packs [..] what do we think on a fundamental basis has the lowest cost per kwh and the best energy density and a lot of other factors like [..] cool it so it can be effective in hot and cold climates how long it s going to last its resilience in a crash. [.. long gap in audio..] JB: [28:08] […] Maybe just to summarise I don t think at these volumes you know standards across the batteries matter much. You know maybe if you […] low volume especially hundreds of thousands of units a year it s really not much point. It s probably negative to standardise because it means you re not really custom engineering for the solution that you want to build. And in terms of form factor as Elon said with this we are approaching it from a 1st principals point of view and we have done the analysis pretty deeply we did this 10 years ago and continue to do this every couple of months even […] and right now we see that as the lowest cost and the highest cost performance type and size of cell. There are a lot of aspects to consider here you know […] its safety […] all these different contributors and I think a lot of the […] car companies are trying to focus too much on getting a very large cell because it simplifies their module manufacture and you know we re building modules here in this factory next to the cell line you know there is no differentiation it goes straight from cell assembly into module assembly. But if you have different factories doing modules vs cells and you think [..] as a unit you have to worry about […] bigger cells. Elon: [29:25] Yeah Exactly you know the bigger the cell is the worse their yield is so if you unwrap all the cells that are sitting [….] make one big cell in the battery pack your yield would be terrible. Because the odds of their being at least one tiny defect across that whole thing are very high. So if you can divide the cells up then you can actually have a much better yield with smaller cells than you can with bigger cells. Its almost like silicon you can [..] silicon wafer […] very difficult to ensure that a big silicon wafer is defect free and that s why they don t make humongous silicon wafers. [… too much noise to hear he last question or answer.. …] | 2017-01-13 23:43:41 | 317 | YES! Thank you. One can always count on reddit users when it comes to the masochistic job of transcribing horrible audio tapes. | 2017-01-13 23:57:45 | 69 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,447 |
Looking for a detailed description of the Model S manufacturing process | Hi All I m looking for detailed descriptions of the manufacturing process of the Model S so I can write about it on Wikipedia any help would be appreciated. So far I ve found the Wired video but it s over a year and half old so not sure if it s still in date also the more sources the better. https: www.youtube.com watch?v=8_lfxPI5ObM Thanks | 2015-03-08 21:09:20 | 10 | saw this recently hope it helps. How its made dream cars season 02 episode 10: https: www.youtube.com watch?v=9mzV7Y9B0tk | 2015-03-08 22:28:16 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,023 |
Long press on car icon sends feedback--any more information? | Long-pressing the leftmost car icon pops up the message Thanks for the feedback ...anyone know what that means? Is it good or bad feedback I m leaving? Like when AP does something stupid do I long-press it? Or when it does something awesome do I press it? Tweeted this question to Tesla but who knows if they ll respond... \[2019.9 beta\] | 2019-03-25 15:43:56 | 10 | It s a bug report basically. Like if your backup camera shows just a black image you can press that to report it. I believe it takes a screenshot of the center screen as part of the bug report. You can also say “bug report [problem here]” to the voice assistant to report an issue. | 2019-03-25 15:57:01 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,975 |
Aftermarket Wheels Affect Mileage range? | Any Owners Running After Market Wheels? if so how did it affect your over all range? | 2017-01-21 15:16:53 | 7 | Wouldn t aerodynamics of the rim impact mileage? My prius has aluminum rims with plastic covers over them I assume to improve airflow and reduce drag.. | 2017-01-21 19:51:02 | 7 | Model Y Wheel Options | 1,353 |
My Tesla Investment Thesis 2.0: Tesla s Monopoly Potential | [My Tesla Investment Thesis 2.0: Tesla s Monopoly Potential](https: teslainvestor.blogspot.com 2019 12 my-tesla-investment-thesis-20-teslas.html) I have put 100+ hours into this thesis compiling pretty much everything you ve ever wanted to know about Tesla. Among many other things it covers: * A deep dive into how autonomy works * Tesla s most crucial competitive advantages * An in-depth look into what is needed for the Tesla Network to succeed **EDIT:** I d like to address a few points from the comments here. First and foremost it seems like some people only read small bits and pieces of the blog looked at some of the big numbers incorrectly interpreted them and decided everything is nonsense because of that. It also seems like these people completely missed this part of the blog: > Rather than argue here about exactly what Tesla should be worth today next year in 10 years or in 20 years I d rather focus here on the overall lessons we can learn from these models. Financial models that go 10 years into the future or even further than that and attempt to project total potential are not meant to be precise predictions of how the future will unfold. Rather they are meant to learn more about how a company works its business and the keys to its success. Some good points were made and I agree that the 5x revenue multiple $28T market cap could be off by a factor of 2-3. I ll reflect on this further. However I don t think the $12T total revenue opportunity number is off by much and u strikezero2 s numbers about total GDP of the transportation sector back this up. You might disagree with me about Tesla having a chance to capture $6T of this for 50% of the market but different opinions and interpretations form a healthy base for discussions. I d suggest that people who are interested read the actual blog and make up their own mind on what they agree and disagree with. | 2019-12-31 10:52:00 | 14 | I m sorry you ll never get back that 100+ hours of wasted time. If Tesla has a monopoly it s of your free time. | 2019-12-31 15:09:33 | 35 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,323 |
Garage parking helper: rear camera and tape on the floor | Once you have the car right where you want it in the garage turn on the rear camera. Then use a strip of blue painter s tape to mark the line on the floor where the bumper as shown on the rear camera needs to clear. A little back and forth placing the roll of tape and checking the camera - or two people make it pretty easy. We used to just use the front sensor s distance to the crap in front of the car but I cleaned up all the crap and now that distance changes too often based on random (useful) stuff we put there. | 2019-05-26 00:19:44 | 36 | Put a wood screw in a tennis ball. Put a wood screw in the ceiling. Put string between the two screws. Drive until your windshield hits the ball. Just sayin . | 2019-05-26 01:07:18 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,114 |
[Discussion] Is something big underway ? | This is purely speculation. But several weirdnesses have popped up in the last weeks. 1: Greentheonly etc. saw the schematics of HW3 and proposed that all new productions would be with the new chip. 2: TM3 is launched in Europe but with EAP disabled. It weirds everyone out because why would that spec in particulat be delayed if the hardware and software is the same as what has been already approved on TMS& X (EDIT: I know its approved now but why did it need its own approval if the hardware is the same as the already approved HW2 5?) 3: The latest firmware version is 2018.50.x. So approx 8 weeks old . I went through the previous firmware version lists and from the time they switched nomenclature I havent found a single instance with a release gap of more than 4 weeks. So something is definitely up. But unsure what it is. If the type approval of EAP was due to HW3 and all new cars have HW3 we should have heard of customers who bought TMS and TMX in europe who could not enable EAP on the first days of driving it but so far thats my best explanation. Teslas is shipping HW3 to European cars and are waiting with the announcement till they sell out replace US inventory. What do you think ? | 2019-02-09 12:21:34 | 30 | The firmware situation is very odd. They keep releasing point builds. I suspect it was mainly them getting the Model 3 ready for Europe in terms of things like translations spotify etc etc. | 2019-02-09 12:28:07 | 33 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,504 |
How will the Model 3 handle two driver enabled smartphones entering the vehicle simultaneously?? | I figure my wife and I will both want to drive the car so both phones will be keyed to drive the car... How will the car know who s driving profile to initiate when we get in the car? | 2017-08-20 21:55:54 | 40 | In the S X at least for audio playback it prioritizes the last device that paired previously. But it s just one tap of the Bluetooth icon to bring up the list of devices and switch it out — way easier than the process for switching a bluetooth device on any other car I ve owned. For profile priority I would imagine it s the one closest to the driver door. The S X works that way with paired keyfobs already | 2017-08-20 22:24:27 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,662 |
Tesla Model 3 Emergency escape latch | Some people are complaining if the electronics go out you will be locked in your Model 3. I seriously doubt Tesla would not have an emergency escape latch. Can anyone supply user manual info or even better an image? Thanks for any help. | 2017-08-21 17:06:32 | 21 | [It is not an issue.](https: photos.google.com share AF1QipP2I8ZIIzlldnvpNzH5OZm2WJV7vDa9kP7MtD-aQaL19bb51wSRwfIrHf3AwzuQ-g photo AF1QipNf99CVmydMB6nbn4gf2d0mocInNLli--aCxBDp?key=Q2xNd09Wam91b29IZVJNNDFBeFYyYktpcFJPbVln) | 2017-08-21 17:19:30 | 22 | Model 3 phone key issues | 19,087 |
Call for questions for Andrej Karpathy from Lex Fridman | Hi my name is Lex Fridman. I host a [podcast](https: www.youtube.com c lexfridman). I m talking to Andrej Karpathy on it soon. If you have questions topic suggestions you d like us to discuss including technical and philosophical ones please let me know. **EDIT**: Here s [the resulting published episode](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=cdiD-9MMpb0). Thank you for the questions! | 2022-10-19 18:16:15 | 882 | His opinion on sensor fusion the removal of radar and now ultra sonics | 2022-10-19 19:26:58 | 676 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,330 |
How am I just learning about the Detroit SP-01?? | Heavy TSLA investor Musk-o-phile SV resident lover of innovation etc. I am ashamed to admit that I literally just learned about Detroit Electric. Now that we have that out of the way my questions to all of you are these: how the fuck is this a thing? I mean it s a Roadster Sport. It s like Lotus missed Tesla and wanted to relive the old glory days from college. How the hell is this car getting to production? It s the same damn thing but shit with less range and it costs more. Is there logic to this? Is there really a market for this car? If it is why is Tesla not going to town? What am I missing? (the simple answer might be that yes there is a market and Tesla is moving on to bigger better things--but that still doesn t account for Detroit Motors getting funding...they are 6 years behind?) | 2014-11-01 05:00:48 | 14 | Never heard from it before. Wired post from 2013 claims that... > The one thing that Detroit Electric didn t crib from the Roadster is its transmission. Instead of a single-speed gearbox the SP:01 offers your choice of a two-speed dual-clutch gearbox for maximum acceleration and a top speed of 155 mph or a four- or five-speed manual complete with clutch pedal. > “We just want to put the fun back in driving ” Lam said of the manual boxes. “European drivers especially like the engaging feel of selecting manual gears.” [Source](http: www.wired.com 2013 04 detroit-electric-sp-01 ) I am european and I hate it. Sounds like a step backwards for me. | 2014-11-01 11:20:32 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,053 |
Model 3 Map sizing issues | In the last week the map function has started zooming out too far when I m driving. It s hard to see where I m at relative to upcoming roads etc. I liked the old zoom level (actually two levels.... one zoom level for surface streets and a larger overview when on major highways) Has anyone else had this problem? Is this something that occured because of an update or did I do something on the touchscreen by mistake? | 2019-03-04 06:44:53 | 12 | If you tap the screen to bring up the zoom in out arrows and then tap an arrow to achieve the zoom level you like it should stay. If you pinch to zoom that will not stay. I have an S so I m not certain for the 3 but this drove me nuts for a while on mind | 2019-03-04 08:46:38 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,829 |
Improper installation of rear blinkers - possible safety hazard - no TSLA response yet | **TL DR** \- Driver side brake light was in fact European \- Service Supervisor escalated the issue on Saturday \- Sunday mobile tech text msg d an appointment for today (Monday) to swap it out \- Tech took 15 mins to replace with proper tail-light... everything done and in working order Lesson learned: Once you get the right person involved the service is quite quick and convenient. & #x200B **Original Post** Hey everyone - my SO and I took delivery a week ago of an M3 SR+. On delivery we noted the rear blinkers seemed different. I first notice when I saw the brake lights pressed and they were not symmetrical. The drive side shows a small yellow light off to the left while the left didn t. Seemed odd and not something intentionally designed. I then checked the blinker and yep driver side and passenger rear blinkers are very different. The passenger side fully blinks the brake light while the driver side is just a small yellow light blinking pretty hard to see. I made these videos and sent them to our Service Center in Matthews NC. Note - the passenger side actually blinks red though the video looks yellowish. [Passenger Side Blinker](https: streamable.com s c41oj evpwzo?muted=1) [Driver Side Blinker - Only small yellow light](https: streamable.com s 7s56a cwncoy?muted=1) & #x200B Posting to know if others have had this issue or know if it is an intentional design flaw. The Service Center hasn t gotten back to me and I worry they don t know how to handle an issue light this. My biggest concern is the small yellow blinker is VERY hard to see at night and may put us at risk when taking left turns transitions. Thoughts suggestions? Many thanks as always PS: Apologize for the title if it is out-of-bounds of sorts. Appreciate all the comments and even the jabs ) | 2019-03-24 14:12:07 | 5 | I think you got an european turn signal. They should replace it for sure. & #x200B Ex: [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=AaPQnm96WPY](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=AaPQnm96WPY) | 2019-03-24 14:25:28 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,588 |
Tesla just changed the infinite mile warranty for S X owners. | Just heard about this news and verified it in the “details” screen in my Tesla account for my X and S. What used to say “8-years” for my battery and drive unit now says “8 years or 120 000 miles whichever comes first” How can Tesla change this for owners who bought the car under the terms of the infinite mile warranty? | 2019-12-08 14:54:14 | 92 | They can t. Odds are it is a website error. | 2019-12-08 15:02:05 | 157 | Tesla Warranty Maintenance Insights | 19,968 |
abetterrouteplanner.com | Just a reminder that [this awesome website](https: abetterrouteplanner.com) exists and is *incredibly* accurate once you get your settings dialed in. Used it this past week for a trip from Bangor ME to Newport RI and back and it relieved whatever anxiety I had left regarding long distance trips (and I m in a 2014 60 kWh). I m not the designer or owner of the site but feel free to ask any questions. It s worked so well that I ve been able to set the “charger arrival charge” as low as 5% and feel comfortable with it. https: imgur.com a 0EcxV | 2018-03-23 18:23:23 | 61 | I m sure most people don t look but I have this site (along with others) in our wiki. r teslamotors wiki usefulsites | 2018-03-23 18:43:45 | 18 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 25,306 |
Dream car acceleration and sound Easter egg | Had a fun idea! What if for the P100Ds and P3D you could select profiles of historical dream cars say a Ferrari Daytona a Lamborghini an original Stingray etc etc and the car matched the acceleration (including fake shift points) and played the audio too. I think that d be such a fun thing to play around with to help you appreciate just how fast these cars are and a fun way to “drive” your dream cars. I would love to see something like this happen! | 2018-09-01 21:01:02 | 31 | Actually the idea of an Easter egg with herky-jerky accelleration and engine noise over the stereo could be kind of fun. But I am already in my dream car. | 2018-09-01 21:19:09 | 43 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,645 |
Tesla cut the Model 3 prices by ~8% in Norway | & #x200B |Model 3|before (NOK)|after (NOK)| |:-|:-|:-| |SR+|430.900|399.900| |LR AWD|484.900|449.900| |LR Performance|499.900|499.900| [https: e24.no teknologi i qALwjo tesla-kutter-prisene-etter-hopp-i-april](https: e24.no teknologi i qALwjo tesla-kutter-prisene-etter-hopp-i-april) | 2020-10-16 12:14:53 | 109 | Isn t amazing that the free market is capable of solving the global warming problem? Cheap mass-produced electric cars that people actually prefer to buy over ICE cars? Who would have thought? | 2020-10-16 12:57:32 | 24 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 19,760 |
Specs on Tesla solar panels? | Are they just not going to release any spec on their panels and you have to buy them to find out anything about them? Specifically what is the minimum roof slope for installation? If Tesla truly wants to change the way people power their lives they are going to have to tell them something about the product. When you are designing a house you can t just hand waive over things like mounting dead load roof pitch requirements etc. | 2019-05-08 01:57:28 | 12 | Roof pitch requirements aren t critical - the slope (in any direction) needs a few degrees so they self clean when it rains otherwise you may need to do it manually. The second reason is the right roof pitch will optimise the power output but +\- 15 degrees doesn t really cause much of a dropoff (trigonometry). Tesla will likely have a set of criteria for which they will install but technically you can install PV anywhere. Here in Australia I mounted a large set (5kw) on the “wrong” south slope of the roof as that is where I have no trees shading and plenty of roof space. System worked 10 years flawlessly with high outputs. As for the rest of the roof - if it is strong enough to pass the building code then it will be able to have solar on it. The panel rails may need to be a bit longer or have more connections through to the structural part of the roof but this cost is minor. | 2019-05-08 04:15:41 | 2 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 17,640 |
FF 91: 3D lidar 10 HD cameras 13 long and short range radars and 12 ultrasonic sensors - Why does Tesla have such a different approach to the sensors needed for Level 5 autonomy? | FF 91 will feature autonomous driving with 3D lidar 10 high-definition cameras 13 long and short range radars and 12 ultrasonic sensors. So not only FF is planning on using Lidar (we know already that Tesla doesn t think it is necessary) but also numerous radars. I think some people were surprised to not see more radars on Tesla s AP 2.0 sensor suite. Why does Tesla have such a different approach to the sensors needed for self-driving compared to other companies? I think they are trying to match human capabilities (we obviously don t have radar capabilities) and keep it affordable whereas the other competitors are trying to get as much information as possible for their system to drive autonomously. I can t wrap my head around such differences between them. In both cases we have talented engineers working on the same problem but they come up with wildly different approaches. I think 13 radars and lidar might be overkill. 4 Lidars like on the VW I.D. Concept is definitely a waste of money. | 2017-01-04 05:57:43 | 14 | Price. Tesla s full autonomous capability is a total of I think $8 000 by itself. How much do you think this FF 91 s will be? Tens of thousands of dollars by itself. | 2017-01-04 06:19:44 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,190 |
Question about Model Y Roadster Referral Program | Hi there I have looked around the web a bit and havent found much info about this program even on Teslas site the specifics are kind of hazy... Perhaps that means no one can answer these question but here we go: Do your referrals carry on indefinitely (to the end of the current referral promotion) or do they expire in the month or quarter you got them? Are they drawing for the roadster every quarter and just not announcing? Or are they going to batch draw 8-12 of them when that car finally comes out? I apparently earned a referral for it in June of last year... So thats at least 4 quarters with no roadster even available am I still in it to win it? Same deal with the Model Y? Am I still in those drawings? I have seen a few articles about people winning so apparently its running still but I just dont hear much about it. | 2020-11-22 06:42:52 | 11 | It s my understanding that your referral must take place in the month or quarter (for Model Y or Roadster respectively) to be eligible for that prize. Can t speak to how often they reveal winners but my guess is you re out of luck on any drawings since your referral. That is of course unless you ve won for your month quarter and just haven t been notified. Keep the faith alive! | 2020-11-22 08:08:49 | 3 | Tesla Referral Program Issues | 15,761 |
Model 3 Design Studio is now LIVE on the US Model 3 page | [https: 3.tesla.com model3 design?redirect=no#battery](https: 3.tesla.com model3 design?redirect=no#battery) edit: looks like Tesla is including 1 year of premium connectivity with the premium interior. | 2018-07-10 17:26:11 | 229 | Still waiting on that standard range. Hopefully by the end of the year I guess. | 2018-07-10 17:54:52 | 62 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,704 |
New Model Y- I m really trying to like it but… | Edit: I got a real live person on the phone. They are going to call me back today but as of right now it looks like they can t find that the part was ever ordered at all. Edit 2: I ve been assured that someone from Tesla will be contacting me in the 24 hours with a solution. I ve gone through a few different routes and each one leads back to the service center. The person I spoke to was really professional and very empathetic. In fact every one I ve interacted with has been great. I think there are serious flaws in their processes that combined with supply issues and staffing issues make things needlessly complicated. I have no complaints with the individual employees but this company has serious issues. I ve also been in touch with an individual who handles legal claims regarding new vehicle purchases in my state (consumer protections dept) and I am just waiting for a return call. Im also working on posting pics of the damage for all of those who were curious about what exactly was broken. Will make an update when I know the final resolution. Hopefully it will help others learn to navigate this process a little easier. It broke after the first week. (Got it December 22 2021 and it broke on December 30). The second row seats are locked in the furthest back position rendering our third row essentially useless (basically you d have to be toddler sized to fit and you would have to get in through the back hatch). The thing is we are a family of six and this is our only vehicle. We bought it BECAUSE of the third row. So now we can t go anywhere together. Since then we have had FIVE service appointments that have all been cancelled because they don t have the part. In fact I just got a notification that our March appointment has been cancelled. No one can give us a time frame. They just cancel and reschedule. It was especially annoying because the car broke as we were packing up for a weekend trip for our daughter s birthday. We couldn t get a rental and no one in our extended family friends had a vehicle we could borrow so I myself and one of my kids stayed home. Now if we want to all go somewhere we have to make two trips borrow a car or have someone give us a ride. I mean we can t even all go to the movies together. We ve done a lot of research trying to figure out a way to get this resolved but all of the research has made me lose any confidence in this car company. So many stories online about so many problems with these vehicles. (Manufacturing issues shoddy repairs lack of customer service etc.) It s completely eroded my trust in this car and the company who made it. Our last vehicle a small SUV with 150 000 miles on it literally never gave us any issues. At this point I hate this brand-new useless broken-ass vehicle that can do a light show but DOESN T HAVE WORKING SEATS! May favorite part of this whole situation is that there s an alarm that says something about the seats not being in position that goes off EVERY TIME WE GET IN THE CAR and no one at Tesla can disable it. We have to do this stupid thing where we put the car in drive open the door so the door alarm goes off (which somehow overrides the other alarm) close the door then put the car back in drive. Now that I ve ranted I will say that I do like how it drives and many of the features are pretty amazing. I guess I really just want a brand-new vehicle that isn t broken. I guess what I m looking for here is advice. Does anyone here have insight on how to get this resolved? I can t figure out how to escalate this. I know the service centers are very understaffed and I don t want to cause issues for them but I feel it s reasonable to expect a brand new vehicle to work and if it doesn t to be repaired within a reasonable time frame. Also if any of you have had issues that have since been resolved and are now very happy with your vehicle please share with me. Right now all I can think is that we made a terrible mistake. Thanks for any help advice | 2022-02-21 20:50:11 | 182 | First I m sorry you re having a bad time. Generally speaking the internet is full of the complainers about any product or service because the happy people don t really need to make posts like yours. Your situation is highly unusual and if I were you I would use the phrase lemon law when speaking to the service center. You bought a car that should work and if this one can t they owe you a remedy. Sadly there s nothing that we can do but I hope you get it worked out to your satisfaction. | 2022-02-21 22:20:45 | 133 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 13,843 |
Unofficial Tesla iOS App Beta Testing Sign Up | I m working on unofficial Tesla iOS app using the undocumented API and looking for some feedback help. I m hoping to get a design more inline with Firmware 7.0 iPad support quicker loading (via caching) and faster actions (by not having to wait for everything to load). Any other suggestions welcome (although a lot of ideas just aren t possible for a 3rd party developer). As for Android: despite being a user I have no plans to write an Android version. Sign up for Test Flight beta: http: goo.gl forms iTG7uaKJbm Screenshot: https: lh6.googleusercontent.com RP-bmEX4uvrt32KiZ4YF5eUuxWdGz_oysdsLN1jHLK3LtiNWBmiLUBSxSOHYPcic09Z8rw | 2016-01-04 20:23:07 | 21 | Do you include the car for testing? | 2016-01-04 23:15:00 | 6 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 21,732 |
Looking at buying a used Tesla while living in an apartment. | Looking at getting a used Tesla S off the Tesla site. Is it viable to use the free super charging as my sole source of charging since I live in an apartment complex or does this sound like a bad idea. I live close to a store with multiple chargers. Just don t know if this is a bad idea or not I understand I ll have to spend at least 30 mins waiting for it to charge and I do have to drive about 50 miles round trip for work. Any advice on the matter would be appreciated. Thanks! | 2019-07-23 06:34:43 | 6 | Some people do it. I d look into getting your landlord to install a plug. It s not hard to do. Even a 110v is enough so you d only need to supercharge one a week. https: www.chargepoint.com drivers apartments-and-condos This is a popular option. If you re in CA the landlord has to install one by law if you ask (but you have to help pay) | 2019-07-23 06:41:10 | 9 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 11,003 |
Test drove a model X today. On the verge of pulling the trigger from no car (Ubering everywhere in LA) to electric. | So I have two questions. First for those living in SoCal how is the drive in the Tesla to Vegas SF and most importantly Phoenix (where we drive to about 4 times per year)? My wife is very concerned about adding an hour to each drive while we sit at a charging station in the dessert. Would love to get general thoughts on this. Second I was with the Tesla employee for 2 hours test driving and asking questions. At the very end she told me that Elon would be making an announcement in March with a new car that she heard was going to get 600+ miles per charge. I ve been googling this but haven t seen anything on it. Was she blowing smoke up my ass? I have no reason to believe that she has any inside info as she was just a young employee test driving cars with people. | 2019-02-11 05:52:57 | 52 | > Second I was with the Tesla employee for 2 hours test driving and asking questions. At the very end she told me that Elon would be making an announcement in March with a new car that she... These people are like apple store employees They work in retail they arent told a god damned thing that we dont know already and are usually worse-informed than enthusiasts. Never trust their claims. If they arent intentionally lying then they are trusting people who are | 2019-02-11 06:02:58 | 37 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,559 |
Deep scrape on the bottom of my model 3 bumper | Got my model 3 only a week ago and I managed to get a nasty scrape under the front bumper in a parking lot. Those stupid island curbs where they put small trees and such. https: i.imgur.com mTTDosT.jpg I m in the Bay Area and looking for recommendations for places and advice on getting it touched up. Since it s almost underneath the car it s hard to notice except at certain angles... I m on the fence about having it done by an autobody shop as I feel I don t have an appreciation for the high cost for a perfect fix in this scenario when it s almost out of sight. Also I read sometimes they have to remove the bumper and that necessitates recalibration of sensors and that makes me even more hesitant. I ve heard there are mobile scratch and dent repair but finding a reputable one seems difficult. If anyone has any South Bay recommendations... I would appreciate it. I kind of want to DIY it for now as I somewhat expect it to happen again. I have some of the paint on order. And then maybe I d get it repaired down the road when I actually have a better sense of the boundaries... The parking sensors are nice but between false positives making me disregard it and also the sensors don t notice everything there s no substitute for my own eyes and judgment caution. :-p EDIT: Since people are asking. Yes the parking sensors went off. I don t know when and how accurately. I was distracted by passengers in the car. My girlfriend described the sound the warning the car made right on or before impact as a yelp! . Poor car :( | 2018-10-01 08:45:54 | 6 | Out of curiosity did the ultrasonic proximity sensors give a warning or was the curb too low? I m always worried this might happen to me. | 2018-10-01 12:13:22 | 6 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 4,910 |
Anyone else experiencing really hot air being blown on their feet (to the point it starts burning if HVAC is not turned off) | This past week I started getting really hot air blown onto my foot while driving. The weird thing is that this starts after the car is already conditioned and after I ve been on the road for over half an hour. The temperature is set to 68°F and the HVAC is on auto. If I allow it to keep going my right foot actually starts burning because it s too much heat. This wasn t happening up to the week before last week and it s been cold here for the past two months so it s not caused by a change in weather. It has happened multiple times for the past week but only after driving for a while (the car interior does not feel colder when this starts happening). Since it is my first winter with the Model 3 I m not sure whether it s normal behavior or a bug with the latest update. I m on version 2019.40.2.1 since early last week. It s also worth noting my left foot doesn t get blasted with heat because the air duct is right above the accelerator and brake pedals and doesn t reach all the way to the dead pedal. | 2019-12-18 00:27:43 | 65 | YES! Since 2019.40.2.1 installed it seems This is my second winter with my Model 3 so its not the car they changed something for sure. | 2019-12-18 02:30:17 | 31 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 1,852 |
What happens to Teslas ability to manufacture cars if the big one hits | What would be their biggest concerns? Road blocks to restarting production? Is structural damage to the factory likely? How long on the outside would they be down? Today s news just reminded me that Tesla has a single point of failure in production for all intents and purposes and it s in a seismically active zone. | 2014-03-29 12:52:16 | 10 | This is a real factor for Tesla and many many businesses. It s the same for many other locations as well. Japan and tsunami florida and hurricanes nyc and aliens. For example there s a soy sauce company in Japan named Michihiro Kono who was absolutely destroyed by a tsunami. They had nothing and none of their business was redundant. They epic lucked out and they managed to find a small pool of the yeast they use to make their soy sauce. They now store samples of their yeast in places all over the world to backup their business. However if you consider for manufacturing. Engineering designs and such are pretty easy to backup. Replacing factories isnt super easy but can be done and generally speaking you can and insurance is the one who pays to rebuild. Though from a business continuity point of view Tesla would build their next gen car manufacturing in the midwest - Detroit. There s no natural disasters around Detroit. There s tons of very cheap land existing factories lots of tooling places and trained unemployed employees to be had. | 2014-03-29 13:56:16 | 12 | Future of Electric Cars | 22,700 |
Model Y Voluntary Recall | Received this email this morning. Tesla has decided to proactively recall certain Model Y vehicles to inspect the second row seat belt retractor bolts. This recall applies to certain Model Y vehicles built between November 2019 and March 2021. Our records indicate that your vehicle(s) 5YJYGDEFXLF0XXXXX may be affected by this recall. On certain vehicles the second row seat belt retractor bolts may not have been secured to the correct specification. In the extremely unlikely case where these bolts are not secured to the correct specification the seat belt system may be adversely impacted in a crash. We are not aware of any crashes or injuries relating to this condition. Please schedule a service appointment using the Tesla app by selecting ‘Schedule Service > ‘Other > ‘Something Else and entering the note ‘Open Recall Repair–second row seat belt retractor bolt inspection. At your appointment Tesla Service will inspect your vehicle and perform any necessary repairs free of charge. Mobile Service may complete this inspection for your convenience. Thank you for being a Tesla customer and we apologize for this inconvenience. TESLA INC. Mobile service scheduled for Tuesday. 👍 | 2021-05-28 10:22:12 | 54 | If I had to speculate the error proofing that was set up for that particular bolt fastener to torque those bolts to their proper spec was either malfunctioning and or set up for the wrong range of values for that entire date range. There is normally groups of team members that their entire job is to certify the torque values of every bolt that has a required spec. Some are checked as frequently as hourly to all the way up to once a week. Regardless each and every bolt is inspected. If there a bolt found out of spec the production line is worked back until they find it to within spec and correct as needed. Even if that means tearing the car apart to get to the bolt or holding finished vehicles in a lot until they are ALL verified. Granted depending on what the bolt secures will dictate next steps if they can t find the source. In the case of this defect regarding public safety this type of recall is issued. Feel free to ask any questions if you would like. Source: Former Quality Supervisor for a Big 3 Manufacturer | 2021-05-28 11:06:35 | 44 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,972 |
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Apple CarPlay... Don t need it. | I have Apple CarPlay in my Volvo and I assumed that I would miss it when I got my Tesla but I truly don t. The Bluetooth connects so fast that my music is playing before I even get my seatbelt on. With CarPlay in the Volvo I have to grab the cable maybe untangle it and plug it in. But the main issue is that CarPlay can take 10-20 seconds to initialize. Also without CarPlay the passenger controlling the music on the phone let s say doesn t inadvertently change what the driver had up on the CarPlay screen like maps or messages. | 2018-10-18 21:55:46 | 9 | If the car had a working solution for audible.com audiobooks and podcasts and I didn t have to handle my phone to access those it d be one thing. Buuuuut it doesn t. I still want wireless carplay in a window as an app like the energy app or browser which is absolutely possible. A working podcast app and a browser that supports audio would do the trick since I could use the audible.com cloud player though. | 2018-10-18 22:03:42 | 16 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 2,105 |
Reservation holder question | How do I get it to say [Model 3 Reservation Holder] beside my name? I am a reservation holder. Small Town Ontario. | 2016-05-17 02:15:23 | 8 | in the sidebar on the right near the top there is a checkbox that says: Show my flair on this subreddit. It looks like: Click the (edit) | 2016-05-17 02:29:35 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,517 |
My friend had his model 3 broken into. So he made a tutorial on how to replace the rear passenger window. | Just wanted to share this with the community. My friend had his window smashed in so he decided to fix himself. He was able to purchase a window direct from a Tesla service center and install himself. If I m posting this incorrectly or it is not appropriate please let me know. Hopefully this helps someone doing self repair. [Model 3 rear passenger window replacement](https: youtu.be o07th5qcQTo) | 2019-05-09 17:43:41 | 77 | Wow - That looks like a lot of work. Where s the window sourced from? Tesla? How long for it to come in? | 2019-05-09 18:01:03 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,428 |
Did Elon just confirm the maxwell dry electrode for their plan to get to terrawatthours per year in battery production? | I mean we already kinda knew that they would utilise the Maxwell tech some time in the future but live at the call i was like that s a classic Elon hint. What yall think? > Transcript: Colin Rusch Can you walk us through the plan for battery sourcing in China? How many -- how much of the supply is going to come from internally produced batteries? How much is coming from externally? And what s your expectation around cost per watt hours as you start to ramp? Elon Musk I don t know if we want to talk about the details of battery supply. We ve got a good handle on. We don t expect to be self constrained in China for the next year I don t know. Drew what do you think? Drew Baglino Yes that s what our plan looks like right now. In terms of internal versus external I think we should wait until we have our discussion early next year. But yes we have agreements in place with -- we re good for next year as you say Elon. Elon Musk I think you probably need to study or reset like Master Plan for Powerplant 3 but it s really like just under three like Battery Day will be kind of national plant tuning which is like okay how do we get from kind of – any-tens of gigawatt hours per year to multiple terawatt hours per year. What s -- **that s a pretty dry scale increase in** -- so yes. Sort of roughly 100 like a 28 gigawatt hours right now well actually there is one where you count the factories in Japan so a little over 30% to 35% or something like that. And how do we get like 2 terawatt hours a year? What would you like? So something increase. Zachary Kirkhorn That s the way you have to think about it because that s what you need to do. Elon Musk Exactly. In order to make fundamental shift in the world s energy usage and really review the sustainable energy future if you re not in the terawatt hour range it s like it s a nice new story but is not fundamentally changing the energy equation. | 2019-07-25 09:25:56 | 55 | > that s a pretty dry scale increase in I m pretty sure Elon said “giant scale increase”:) > you count the factories in Japan so a little over 30% to 35% or something He s talking in GWh not % as the combined output of Panasonic giga+Japan. | 2019-07-25 10:17:04 | 62 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 5,029 |
Smart Summon - Your imaginary buddy | So I ve been doing some yard work at home and had to run to Lowe s to get some supplies. I knew they d be heavy so I parked my Model 3 near the exit I d be coming from and lined up the car for maximum summon effect (Basically such that it only had to go in a straight line) I got in I buy my stuff and I just rolled my cart to the exit. Now under normal circumstances you d be pushing this heavy ass cart all the way to your car then push the cart back to a cart return (If you re polite). Or you d have the buddy spouse significant other you re out with retrieve the vehicle. In this instance I pulled my phone out and just had the car come meet me in front of the entrance. Worked perfect each time. Eventually as it got later in the day (I had to make a bunch of trips) I started seeing the entrance filled with pickups and it hit me. A Cybertruck with Smart Summon will make a hell of a difference shopping for bigger items because people can just bring the truck around on their own. I mean bigger picture it s make sense for a Smart Summon loading dock where home improvement stores and Tesla can work on some form of auto docking function where the vehicles automatically line up for loading. Anyways. Was an interesting use of Smart Summon for me. Meant only having to go like 20ft with heavy stuff vs 200ft to the car Only downside was no one seeing what I d been doing lol. | 2019-11-24 14:34:19 | 13 | I was at Lowes getting stuff a few weeks ago and when I came out it was raining. The lot wasn t busy so for shits and giggles I had the car pull up under the covered roof at the lumber exit and hopped in. Pretty sweet when it works. | 2019-11-24 15:01:25 | 7 | Issues with Smart Summon | 17,312 |
8.0 Update Increased Autopilot Steering Wheel Torque? | It seems like the 8.0 update increased the torque applied to the steering wheel when autosteer is active. When using autopilot I will apply some corrective force when I don t agree with how it s driving but after upgrading to 8.0 last night I find myself constantly accidentally disabling autosteer. To be honest it s a rather infuriating change since it feels like I m activating and deactivating autosteer once every few minutes on really curvy highways. | 2016-09-24 22:32:23 | 10 | I have to say driving on the I495 (Washington DC) tonight the auto-steering had great problems including driving over the yellow lines on the left. This has never happened before and I drive this route daily. | 2016-09-25 02:40:46 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 823 |
Would you volunteer in Puerto Rico? [Gauging Interest] | (A BIG) If there was an opportunity to volunteer on a Tesla Puerto Rico grid project would you be interested? Why or why not? For how long? What would it take to sway you? The biggest resistance to this project going through is the actual cost. Creative and long term debt structuring may help but the island is already struggling significantly in this regard. While for-profit companies rarely work in the non-profit space some finer legal minds could construct an agreement by which the cost of labor could be greatly reduced or even eliminated completely. Currently they are asking volunteers NOT to go to the island as this is just more mouths to feed and bodies to shelter in a difficult time. In the future as resources are shored up they will need a ton of help in many projects across the island. I m in the unique position that I can afford a round trip ticket to Puerto Rico and a good deal of time to help. I m really trying to gauge if some any people would be willing to do the same. Not for money or fame but helping Puerto Rico and the world realize Tesla s mission of accelerating the transition to sustainable energy. | 2017-10-06 16:19:00 | 26 | Absolutely. I wish there were something similar to Habitat For Humanity but for grid renewables related. | 2017-10-06 16:59:30 | 14 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 23,960 |
Annual Meeting of Stockholders on June 5 2018 | 2018 Annual Meeting of Stockholders (the “ 2018 Annual Meeting ”) will be held on Tuesday June 5 2018 at 2:30 p.m. Pacific Time at the Computer History Museum located at 1401 N. Shoreline Blvd. Mountain View CA 94043. For your convenience we will also webcast the 2018 Annual Meeting live via the Internet at www.tesla.com 2018shareholdermeeting . | 2018-04-27 01:46:22 | 47 | But the shorts said Tesla will be bankwupt next week | 2018-04-27 01:48:56 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,531 |
Accidental activation with key fob? | Does the Tesla key fob have a problem with accidental activation? I have a reoccurring problem key fob with my Nissan. I keep my keys in my front pocket and when I squat down either my car alarm goes off or my trunk pops open. My car even had the nice convenience option of rolling down the windows if you held down the unlock button. Not very convenient when someone at the office asks why your windows are rolled down and the car is filled with snow. > .< Assuming that the model 3 uses the same fob as the S and X does anyone have problems with accidental activation? | 2017-03-20 18:52:54 | 5 | I wish there were a sliding switch on the button to lock out all button presses. Make sure there is enough friction to the slide doesn t accidentally move. Allow the switch to stay in either the locked or unlocked position as desired. In the unlocked position the fob works exactly as it does today. Now how do I convince Elon to put this change into production? | 2017-03-20 19:30:40 | 6 | Model 3 phone key issues | 1,214 |
2019.36.2.1 close following distances and sudden stops | Just a PSA I just got 2019.36.2.1 and immediately noticed a behavior change when traffic in front suddenly stops -- with following distances 2 and 1 the car waits until the very last second to slam on the brakes. This seems better when using following distances 3 and above. It didn t use to accelerate towards stopped traffic. Hopefully they can fix this behavior in the future -- had a few near missed before realizing to increase flowing distance. | 2019-11-19 17:39:04 | 8 | Been on this version for a week lots of TACC and AP NoA use both in heavy traffic and on a high speed highway usually keep following distance on 1 or 2 - no issues so far. | 2019-11-19 17:55:55 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 504 |
PGE Clean Fuel Vehicle Rebate Error allowing me to reapply after Jan 1 2019 for $300 more | Just got an email from PG& E that was interesting. I was disappointed to learn that the rebate was going up after Jan 1 2019 since I already applied. Guess there was an error on their end and now i might as well wait. Dear Clean Fuel Rebate applicant Due to a system error applications that were Approved for Payment on October 10th did not generate a rebate check. You are receiving this system generated email indicating that your application was rejected. This is not due to any mistake on your end and we apologize for any inconvenience this delay has caused. Please note that we have recently announced that our Clean Fuel Rebate will be increasing from $500 to $800 starting on January 1st 2019. You may choose to re-apply this year for the current rebate or wait until next year to receive the higher rebate amount by visiting our application page www.pge.com cleanfuelrebate-ev. Vehicle eligibility has not changed. We thank you for your patience. Please feel free to reach out with any questions. Sincerely Clean Fuel Rebate Application Processing Team | 2018-11-05 22:42:45 | 22 | Talk about bank error in your favor!! Congrats :) | 2018-11-05 22:45:36 | 12 | EV Tax Credit Information | 14,683 |
Is there any incentives to getting a used Tesla Model 3? | I m looking online and a used model runs 3k below the new comparable model. But without the 6k tax incentives so its actually 3k more expensive. . . what gives? do Teslas really not lose any value over a year? Like any luxury vehicle would be down at least some 15 - 20% just after 1 year is Tesla just inflating their used prices to push people for new ones? | 2019-07-15 15:17:40 | 8 | Anytime there are subsidies involved the market prices tend to not reflect reality. I m seeing used model 3 selling more than new it s unbelievable and as soon as the tax credit expires I think the market will normalize. Curr | 2019-07-15 15:19:31 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,188 |
Feature request: When typing in locations live suggestion matches should also include previously visited locations | It s very common to revisit a place you ve already been to especially if it s been within the past 6-12 months. Such addresses should be included as suggestions when you begin to type a postcode or address. This would make the navigation quicker and more fluid. I know that you can favourite such locations and they ll appear in the search results but that takes a bit of time and you may only visit the location a few times and then never again where you d have to unfavourite it afterwards. | 2022-10-20 00:23:43 | 43 | Maybe it s different in wherever you are that spells favorite as favourite but I m 99% sure it already does this at least to some extent. For example my local grocery store is called Cub . There are lots of them around. When I type Cub into the navigation it ll show me the one I go to right at the top of the list even when others are closer. The recent frequent one also has a little refresh icon in the map pin that usually has the letter for where it is on the map. | 2022-10-20 00:38:02 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,530 |
Tesla Semi pricing implies battery pack cost under $100 kWh? | Price difference of $30 000 for an extra 200 miles (500 miles - 300 miles range) with energy consumption of less than 2 kWh miles which is to say less than 400 kWh for the extra 200 miles. That s $30 000 400 kWh = **$75 per kWh** assuming Tesla doesn t even try to mark up the cost building new 2170 batteries into packs? Assuming an optimistic 1.5 kWh miles energy consumption. The price per kWh is still only $100. | 2017-11-24 19:51:23 | 41 | That s the million dollar question. Is Tesla banking on a breakthrough by the time they start shipping trucks do they have an ace up their sleeve or are they just making them at a loss until it becomes economically feasible? | 2017-11-24 20:14:09 | 39 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 19,456 |
Is there a noticeable range difference between using regen break and non-regen break on Model S? | I do not think I like the feeling of regen break... but does it make a noticeable difference in daily commute like 3 days per charge VS 4 days per charge using regen break? Thanks! | 2017-08-27 16:00:22 | 9 | Brake. For the love of all that is holy it s BRAKE! | 2017-08-27 18:53:58 | 50 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,150 |
Importing a Model S to Canada | I m planning on moving to Canada from the US soon and would like to bring my 2014 Model S with me. As I understand it Canada requires vehicles to have an Electronic Immobilization System and the US model doesn t have that. Does anyone know of someone who has been able to successfully import a Model S to Canada? What is involved in doing so? Is there any other issues I need to be away of when importing a Tesla? | 2020-08-08 19:29:28 | 23 | [https: www.riv.ca ImportingAVehicle.aspx](https: www.riv.ca ImportingAVehicle.aspx) This website has most of the information you ll need. They re also pretty helpful if you call them and they can explain any modifications that may be required. If you re immigrating you will not have to pay any GST HST sales taxes at the border. If you re a returning Canadian after at least one year of living outside of Canada you get an exemption on the taxes on the first C$10 000 of vehicle value (based on current KBB book value). Also don t forget that you have to electronically declare the export of the vehicle with US Customs at least 72 hours prior to arriving at the border and stop at the US port of entry prior to crossing into Canada to get the title stamped. If you don t have the title you need a letter of authorization from the lender to bring the vehicle to Canada. NOTE: if you are only coming as a temporary resident (worker student etc) then you may not have to go through the RIV import process at all. You can still declare the car as a temporary import. I can provide you more info if this is the case. | 2020-08-08 19:40:51 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,576 |
More companies announce their Tesla Semi Truck reservations | More press hitting as Ruan and Mobile TV group reserves a total of seven Tesla Semi Trucks: https: www.sdcexec.com transportation press-release 20990581 ruan-reserves-five-tesla-electric-semi-trucks-for-2019-rollout https: www.sportsvideo.org 2018 01 30 mobile-tv-group-furthers-green-initiative-with-commitment-to-tesla-electric-semis | 2018-01-31 12:16:14 | 231 | No company including Penske has ever ordered 10k trucks at once fleets are replaced in scheduled intervals not all at once to minimize down time. | 2018-01-31 14:59:54 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,116 |
[Discussion][Meta] Subreddit Conversations and Comments | I posted in the Daily Discussion thread today and u 110110 said I should make a post. So here it is. Can we *at least try* to be a little nicer to each other here? I see so often people cussing each other out for just explaining something or not knowing something. This is insane. If someone says something on the internet take it as being nicer because you can t tell tone online without emojis. If someone is doing something wrong just simply explain it to them. By cussing them out and calling them stupid and whatnot you re not helping your case. At all. I understand that there are a lot of trolls here but some of the main offenders of this are actually owners who apparently never learned how to be nice on the playground. I don t even know why I have to explain this to a group of grown adults.... To quote one of my friends jokingly Who knew that people who own luxury electric cars could be assholes sometimes? | 2019-02-08 21:25:09 | 27 | Couldn t really agree more. I ve said it before but it s pretty sad that sometimes when the OP is saying that they are having an issue with their vehicle they point out that they hold stock and a supporter of the company because sometimes users would just show up and call them shorts. Sometimes people just need to put their financial positions behind them for a second so that the issues can be addressed. It s hard to have decent discussion otherwise sometimes. | 2019-02-08 21:29:04 | 15 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 25,031 |
What upgrades are worth it model X 90D? | Hi guys! I m helping a friend buy his new car (he s hopeless with buying cars as the only source of info he uses is the seller). I m very happy with his fascination for the Model X but I m curious about the upgrades suggested by the seller: * six seats: i found this odd but the seller claimed this had the highest second hand value? * autopilot conveniences features: is this the whole autopilot? Is nothing included in the basic package? * smart air suspension: is this worth it? * Towing package: this is a must have for my friend Are there any other upgrades that are must or should-have? thanks a lot:D | 2016-09-23 07:48:27 | 6 | The seller? Is this a used car or are you talking about Tesla itself? | 2016-09-23 13:42:34 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,003 |
Carbon fibre trim in Model S and X.. is it legit? | As the title says are the carbon fibres in S and X real carbon fibre? If not I dont understand why people would pay extra for it. I have always thought it s real until someone in a post commented that it s fake and just for the looks... | 2016-05-21 16:33:42 | 8 | Yup it s legit. I ve held a spoiler before its on the car. Super super light. | 2016-05-21 17:33:32 | 11 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 3,709 |
question about the mobile charger and temps | Guys & #x200B quick question & #x200B I have a garage with charging the garage is NOT temp controlled it is quite hot in there and would say outside these days isi n the mid 90s. & #x200B when i charge the mobile unit and the cable get quite hot not too hot to touch or hold in my hand but still def quite warm. is there a ambient temp limit to where i should not be charging the car etc to avoid issue or at temp that i should be alarmed about etc? | 2019-07-30 19:32:51 | 9 | 122F https: www.tesla.com sites default files downloads gen_2_mobile_connector_owners_manual_32_amp_en_US.pdf | 2019-07-30 19:37:45 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,482 |
Tire change at 22k miles? (21 inch) | Just got the email from Tesla recommending a tire change. Hi per our conversation just now our technicians are recommending replacing 4 tires due to the tread being at 4 32 and below. The tires are $375.00 each plus tax and labor for all four is $125.00. The total comes out to $1760.00 Also I will have them look into the brake pedal feeling loose when letting go of pedal Any recommendations for new tires? Thanks | 2016-12-06 21:19:57 | 5 | Performance tires are expensive. You don t have to go with OEM tires. I personally wouldn t get my tires through Tesla. | 2016-12-06 22:02:30 | 9 | Model Y Wheel Options | 21,233 |
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The Dashcam is not recording but Sentry mode does | As the title says. The Dashcam is not recording at all but the sentry mode is working great. All the posts I see are about having issues with Sentry mode not the dashcam. The dashcam has worked in the past with no issues. When I removed the USB drive to check out a video of a SUV that almost hit me I discovered there were no recordings from driving on the entire drive. I know it is not a formatting issue since it has worked in past and since sentry mode is working. Has anybody seen this issue. The only thing that has changed is an update to the car. Not the big 10.0 update but the minor one before that a month or two ago. | 2019-10-05 08:11:06 | 16 | Rebooting the car might help. Or updating to V10 perhaps. | 2019-10-05 08:12:27 | 4 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 20,652 |
Model 3 Drive Selector Replacement | I took my model 3 into the service center on Monday to have them fix these issues: 1. Morse Code noise when in park. (they say software update 2018.4.8 fixes this issue) 2. High wind noise on freeway (they say its normal and are in line with specs) 3. Rattle from left turn signal (replaced with brand new unit) 4. Car rumbles of freeway (replaced back right wheel with brand new tire balanced all wheels) 5. Bluetooth problems with phone (new software should fix help and Android app refresh) I then went to pick up my car this afternoon and as I m checking out my car I see a scratch on back fender. They then pull the car into the detailer area and buff out the scratch (it was light). Then they are about to close out my service visit in the computer when they get an urgent alert that my VIN (306*) has been flagged for a Drive Selector Replacement. The issue is the current drive selector could fail and not go into park. So they then explained to me that I could not have my car back and they are waiting on the replacement part from the factory. Here is the kicker... They say it may take weeks to have a new park because it has to be completely redesigned and shipped to SC. There could be a massive recall alert coming.. I live an hour away from the service center each way. I m so frustrated. | 2018-02-28 23:23:21 | 70 | > Here is the kicker... They say it may take weeks to have a new park because it has to be completely redesigned and shipped to SC. There could be a massive recall alert coming.. Yikes. Did they give you a loaner at least? | 2018-02-28 23:25:57 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,714 |
Preconditioning is good perhaps too good. (Cracked windshield software suggestion) | Compared to ICE vehicles Tesla s climate system is amazing. It s very responsive and can deliver heat or cold much faster than any vehicle I ve previously owned. Because of this when I walked out to my car after preconditioning I discovered the [windshield broke](https: imgur.com a OLTmowI) To prevent situations like this from happening perhaps in excessively cold temperatures preconditioning could gradually raise the temperature. For the time being if you re worried about your glass you can manually increment the heat in the app every few minutes to precondition. | 2019-12-11 15:02:45 | 139 | I ve used preconditioning before in very low temps (down to -30F not factoring windchill) and so far no issues. In fact I used it this morning in ten below zero (F) temps. I would suspect there was perhaps existing (but near invisible) damage to the glass or perhaps a defect that was compounded by temperature extremes which led to the crack. As someone who uses precondition as much to warm the battery as to condition the cabin temp I would not want to see them throttling the conditioning process unless it was a setting I could opt out of. | 2019-12-11 15:26:46 | 127 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 15,485 |
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[help needed] I need advice on wall charger | I ve ordered a model 3 which arrives at the end of the month. I m trying to figure out which charger to install — I originally thought about installing the official Tesla charger but the installation company I contacted have recommended another manufacture that apparently has better features such as automatic load management. My question is — do you guys recommend I just stick to the official Tesla wall connector? Or are there better options out there? Is there a benefit to the wall connector? Thank you in advance for your help | 2021-09-05 18:34:19 | 8 | 1) The Tesla Wall Connector does do automatic load sharing. 2) Either do a NEMA 14-50 outlet and use the mobile connector for a max of 32 amps which will charge the Model 3 about 30 miles per hour or get the Wall Connector which will do up to 48 amps for a charge of 44 miles per hour. | 2021-09-05 19:18:44 | 28 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 25,289 |
Testing Autopilot FSD s ability to drive blind - Sofware Status | [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=77cbSy-rBEQ](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=77cbSy-rBEQ) I just found this really interesting video that shows FSD s performance covering different cameras. This answered many of the questions I had about how FSD works and which is the current status of it. So here are my conclusions: & #x200B * **FSD is clearly using maps to drive.** When Stop at red light or Stop at Stop sign were introduced the general consensus was that the car knew moreless where a traffic light was and the cameras started to look for it. With the curbs (or basically most of the things we see in the UI) its exactly the same. When the map is telling the car that a curb is somewhere near in the left the red dots oscilate randomly until the side camera detects it and fixes the red dots. This is why even if all the cameras are covered in the video the car still sees something. What can be seen is just the map data. * **Side cameras are barely used right now.** The car is able to drive in intersections even if the side cameras are covered. This can mean 2 things: the car is using only the wide frontal lense to detect cross traffic (with its obvious angle limitations) even when having all the cameras operational OR the sofware uses the side cameras to detect cars in intersections but it does not care if you cover them and can t see anything because it will continue driving. In both cases this is really dangerous. * **As Greentheonly pointed out in the past he did not see any 4D NN in the code yet.** So here is my take. The difference between Autopilot and the current FSD software resides in 2 improvements: 1. Pixel triangulation NN was added for detection. As Karphaty said they are able to detect with accuracy the curbs in the horizon by checking where a pixel is going to appear in the next frame. They applied this to every object and improved the visualisation dramatically. But I seriously think that the 4D is still in the works and not implemented in the current software. 2. Much better driving policy path finding + features. They hard coded in C++ all the features we are seeing right now like intersections roundabouts...but I guess they rushed it to meet Elon´s deadlines because it clearly needs a lot of work to be safe . * **Driving more miles in your car will not make the software better instanly.** I think this is a common misconception. I read many people claim that every time you intervene the car the software is learning automatically. And I highly doubt this is true. If the car took a wrong decision it can be because the detection was not correct because the map data does not correspond to the vision detection and therefore the car doesn t know what to do or the hard coded path finding has bugs or mistakes. This means that Tesla AI engineers are probably checking every FSD intervention manually and sorting every mistake by type so that they can later change the code or adjust train the vision NN for better detection. But just be aware of all the hard work that requires making the car drive better. I just wanted to add my perspective of the current status of FSD software and point out that I am both excited and dissapointed. Excited because I believe cameras are enough for L4 L5 and Tesla is doing great progress but dissapointed at the same time because they are barely entering the world of the NN and they will still need a lot of time to reprogramm all their FSD software . Feel free to comment if you agree or not. | 2020-11-24 20:43:17 | 124 | Those turns going through without side cameras available is definitely unsafe. & #x200B It is definitely not the case that features like stopping at stoplights rely entirely on map data. There have been several videos of people demonstrating that the car will stop for an unmapped intersection or even a person manually holding a stop sign in the middle of a dirt road. I ve even tested this myself with some sandwich board stop signs placed at a construction site near me. I also very much doubt that there is any curb data in the map data. I find it much more likely that the video maker just failed to cover the cameras adequately. This would be trivial to test just by driving on a road that doesn t appear on the maps or just make your own in a field somewhere. I think the red dots oscillating randomly is just the car guessing from incomplete data + some overfitting in the NN model. If the NN that is working to see road edges has only (or even mostly) been trained on images that do have some road in them it ll make its best guess to put road edges in even a pure black image. Kinda like the old if all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail saying. Correct me if I m wrong but Green hasn t gotten his hands on any of the code for the FSD beta so his comments on the 4D networks not being in there only mean it s not currently in the public build. Please give me a link if I m wrong about this I d like to see what he has to say. | 2020-11-24 21:29:11 | 73 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 20,570 |
Do you think people will hold on to their model 3 for a while? | Or like other tesla s will people trade for more equipped models upgraded or model s | 2017-04-21 22:12:04 | 17 | I imagine that most people who are buying the Model 3 are doing so because the Model S and Model X are out of their price range. My guess is the number who drive the Model 3 for a while before upgrading to the Model S or X will be negligible. | 2017-04-21 22:13:45 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,301 |
Tesla Owners what are your likes and dislikes of your Tesla? What model would you recommend to someone looking to own one? | Likes Dislikes of your Tesla. Features you like things that you don t. | 2022-04-04 19:15:49 | 134 | Gas savings exceeded my car payment this [month.](https: imgur.com a Kb8GMe4) | 2022-04-04 20:32:58 | 128 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,307 |
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