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53zhd3 | 40 Insane facts about Tesla motors | We created a piece highlighting some of the most interesting facts about the world of Tesla motors here: http: imgur.com gallery JEYbW It would be great to hear what the r teslamotors community thinks. Constructive feedback most welcome! We will be making any changes based on your input. | ivyplant | 2016-09-22 15:25:23 | 10 | d7xkibz | Why does the second row of facts go 3 4 2? | scottg96 | 2016-09-22 15:45:09 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
eablao | 40.2 solved all my gripes about Spotify | As excited as I was to see Spotify come to the Model 3 in the US my excitement was soon tempered by the fact that I was suddenly unable to play a song or select an artist solely by voice and instead had to interact with the touchscreen to confirm my choice. Well imagine my surprise this morning to see that everything now works like used to except that I can (of course) ask for the same song as many times as I want and if I ask for an artist it defaults to the “this is...” playlist on Spotify for that artist. Thanks Tesla software team! Correction! This only seems to work if you re already in Spotify. | garthreddit | 2019-12-13 23:12:16 | 165 | fap4eis | I have noticed terrific improvement inSpotify of late as well. My VERY first world problem solved. Ok. Now onto world peace please? | Sdosullivan | 2019-12-13 23:26:26 | 61 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
ea30b2 | 40.2.1 Autopilot Issues | Anyone else on 2019.40.2.1 experiencing issues with Autopilot braking due to a slight incline? My commute isn t even very hilly and my AP broke pretty heavily several times this morning approaching slight inclines in the road. I also feel like it hugs the center line now way more than it should as well. Definitely more than it used to. Also not AP related but does anyone feel like regenerative braking is not as strong as it was before?I found myself having to use the brake several times this morning when I have been driving basically without it since Hold mode came out. Edit: 2020 Model 3 LR AWD Edit 2: car turned off Autopilot for the rest of the drive because I exceeded the Autosteer speed limit. That definitely seems new (and not great). Edit 3: ignore edit 2. My mistake. | WhatTheFreightTruck | 2019-12-13 11:48:18 | 31 | fanfuqc | Edit 2: that is not new. | Ihaveamodel3 | 2019-12-13 12:06:56 | 40 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
e9cmyl | 40.2.1 quick observations | 2018 Model 3 LR AWD FSD 2019.40.2.1 Manual Autolane change is quick when blinker manually activated it is moving into next lane as soon as you activate the blinker. Didn t have another vehicle next to me so not sure if it would delay and wait for adjacent vehicle to pass or if it would speed up and try to get in. My trip was too short to gather more data. NoA Autolane change – still 6 blinks before it moves over. First time a vehicle was approaching faster than I was traveling lane marker turned red and it waited for the vehicle to pass and then changed lane blinker remained on throughout. There was a trailing vehicle but it was not traveling as fast as the adjacent vehicle and it changed lanes in front of it with plenty of room nothing to report on. Next time it autolane changed there was no adjacent vehicle and on 6th blink it began moving over. So can t say anything changed here with Nav on Autopilot from previous versions during this quick outing. Stop Sign Notification. Manually Stop sign notification does not do anything. I engaged autopilot and dialed autopilot down to 5mph and allowed it to keep entering intersection (no cars were around) as nose of model 3 passed the stop sign the red steering wheel and hands warning appeared as the alarm went off. Doesn t appear to be taking into account your closing speed on stop sign. Not sure what the value would be seeing if you were really in a situation and traveling at => 25mph by time alarm goes off it would be too late you d be in the intersection before you could react. There s another intersection in town that s usually empty where you can see quite a ways in all directions. I may try it at 10mph and see what happens maybe it will trigger sooner. AutoPark - Didn t get to try autopark all shopping centers were pretty empty and I was in a hurry. Next time out I ll cruise around the lot and see if I can find some to test it on. Autowipers – sorry weather was clear. Advance from Stop traffic. Still 2 second count before vehicle begins moving forward. | GoTesla | 2019-12-11 20:28:30 | 20 | fahzsot | I drove with that version for the first time this morning. One thing I can add is it does a much better job hugging a double yellow line on a non-divided highway than it ever had previously. My commute has several spots where I always have to disengage AP so that it doesn t veer right when a turn lane or merge lane appears on the right. Today I didn t have to disengage at all for the first time on my commute since I bought the car in April last year. Now if they could just increase the AP speed limit to 10 mph above the limit on non-divided highways I d be able to use AP on my return trip too. | joggle1 | 2019-12-11 20:41:44 | 17 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
eggyfc | 40.50 stopped rolling out | There seems to be a drastic decline in 50.40 installs since the 24th. Currently at 62% of Teslafi users. I ve been constantly checking the app for days hoping for the update. Here s the data according to the Teslafi website: 12 24 - 3991 installs 12 25 - 1541 installs 12 26 - 448 installs 12 27 - 185 installs | Groccolli | 2019-12-27 21:10:17 | 20 | fc6wmnf | AP emptied out my bank account and took off to Vegas. I hope it s ok... | UrbanArcologist | 2019-12-28 00:03:08 | 29 | Tesla Software Update Analysis |
ej9g47 | 40.50.5 software bug 40.50.7 software fix... Amazing! | Car is in the garage untouched and the alarm goes off. I go into the garage to check it out. The screen says there s been an error front passenger door was opened manually and the window will no longer go up all the way. After rebooting a couple of times I make a service appointment for first available date 9 days from now. Shortly thereafter the alarm goes off again. Then again. I sent a message to Tesla asking for an earlier appointment given the fact that my window won t fully close and my alarm goes off at will. Within minutes I was pushed the 40.50.7 update and my problem was solved! Amazing. | C-levelgeek | 2020-01-03 03:27:12 | 34 | fcwg8kw | https: dilbert.com strip 1995-11-13 | analyticaljoe | 2020-01-03 04:13:49 | 27 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4eocdx | 400 mile range on the roadster? What if its driven at 20mph for longest range test? | I recall reading a while back that Tesla released an upgrade for the Roadster which boost the range to 400 miles. Did anyone get to test if it actually gave that much? I also recall someone driving their MS at really low speeds (25mph?) to achieve a similar number. If the Roadster gives you 400 miles on normal driving conditions... I wonder what kind of range someone will get driving it at 25mph or 20mph? | Minivan2016 | 2016-04-13 23:30:36 | 14 | d21vq08 | The new Roadster is still under development. It probably will get close to 600 miles under perfect condition at low speed. | Bobsky2 | 2016-04-13 23:45:55 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6q1jvm | 4016 days ago a plan was announced... | The Secret Tesla Motors Master Plan (just between you and me) Elon Musk Co-Founder & CEO of Tesla Motors • August 2 2006 https: www.tesla.com blog secret-tesla-motors-master-plan-just-between-you-and-me * Without giving away too much I can say that the second [Tesla] model will be a sporty four door family car at roughly half the $89k price point of the Tesla Roadster and the third model will be even more affordable. In keeping with a fast growing technology company all free cash flow is plowed back into R& D to drive down the costs and bring the follow on products to market as fast as possible. When someone buys the Tesla Roadster sports car they are actually helping pay for **development of the low-cost family car**. * Many of us have waited a long time for today to arrive. Huge thanks to Musk Straubel and the entire Tesla Team for accomplishing what seemed like the impossible. It still seems impossible that this is even happening given that entire industries want Tesla to fail. We re not there yet to call the Model 3 a success but today is a huge milestone. Good Luck to Telsa! | Tb1969 | 2017-07-28 04:39:35 | 66 | dktzq5r | I would totally buy a $89k 2.0 = $44.5k Model S. | im_thatoneguy | 2017-07-28 07:27:20 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6539it | 405 LA OC to Valley and back | I do this drive 3-4 times a week. My AP2 model S still gives a rude awakening once in a while on curves. I swear I was going to hit the divider or cross over into the other lane. Anyone else drive with AP2 on this road? It s in the latest firmware. | kutrod | 2017-04-13 04:05:07 | 12 | dg77cs8 | a lot of the southern 405 has no shoulder in the hov lane. i would not suggest any AP version in that situation. | jerjozwik | 2017-04-13 05:33:40 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
9mriex | 40A NEMA 14-50 | I talked to Tesla support today to ask why the NEMA 14-50 mobile connector (UMC) was locked at a ceiling of 32A (64 per cent of my 50A breaker). It looks like Gen 2 of the UMC did this as a safety precaution due to overheating and issues with doing 40A on Gen 1. However the good news is they confirmed to me they are bringing back the 40A (80 per cent) in a new version. Who knows when we ll see it but it ll be nice to squeeze those extra electrons out for 25 per cent faster charging with no real electrical changes needed. | Maletor | 2018-10-09 18:05:53 | 18 | e7grhru | I ended up getting the wall connector. I m enjoying the full 48A that my Model 3 can handle. | croninsiglos | 2018-10-09 18:19:36 | 12 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9sr2fs | 42.2 Nav on AP missing exits | Topic. I ve done some quick testing and recorded a video that I ll post later today but so far my Drive on Nav has been missing exits pretty consistently when the exit has a dedicated turn lane. What happens is the car gets over to the right but it doesn t enter the dedicated lane until (or try to rather) until the exit comes up which is well after the lane line has turned into a solid white line. I ve done four exits since getting the update last night and the three of them that had dedicated exit lanes failed while the one that didn t succeeded. Anyone else see similar behavior? | Byshop303 | 2018-10-30 19:16:14 | 15 | e8qry81 | This is most likely location specific as more data is available for given exit it will behave better and better. Also you can probably report it as a bug. Unfortunately I did not get the update yet - yes I am on Wifi. | thisiswhatidonow | 2018-10-30 19:19:32 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
8j9ha0 | 4290 Last 7 days production of Model 3 | Report from Freemont on Model 3 Production line 5 13 2018 (midday): * 4290- Last 7 days production of Model 3 * 638- Last 24hrs production of Model 3 https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 2737352 | dark_mark_larks | 2018-05-14 04:01:19 | 98 | dyxzas8 | You really should indicate this is an anonymous report from a guy on a pro-Tesla forum that heard from a guy that he knew in high school that works at Fremont. | ElonsMonkey | 2018-05-14 04:07:48 | 95 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a3e2cy | 46.2 seems to have fixed my TeslaCam | My TeslaCam has been broken (X icon over camera) for a couple months now but installing 46.2 seems to have re-enabled it. I had tried formatting the drive and recreating the TeslaCam folder previously but neither solution worked. I noticed this issue seemed prevalent for a lot of owners so I wanted to confirm this was either a result of a hard reboot from the update or an actual fix in the update. Anyone else seeing this? | Mumper | 2018-12-05 16:50:56 | 35 | eb5czad | 42.3 did it for me. | 110110 | 2018-12-05 16:51:22 | 15 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
rdzel0 | 4680 and the million mile battery | Seems like it s been a bit since we ve heard references to the million mile battery . Have we had any clearly stated goals stating that the 4680 will be the first target attempt for a million mile battery? or was it just a general long term ambition to eventually create one? I know 4680 is just a form factor but kinda curious if the form factor is enough or innovations on chemical composition will be required as well.... maybe both. | seussiii | 2021-12-11 13:06:41 | 30 | ho51142 | > Seems like it s been a bit since we ve heard references to the million mile battery . Because once the LFP was released there was no longer a need to talk about a battery already in production. 250 miles x 5000 cycles is over a million miles. | nod51 | 2021-12-11 17:00:00 | 35 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a86vrf | 48.12.1 Model 3 Auto Wiper improvement | I haven t seen it posted yet but the auto wipers appear to be working much better. Drove for 40 minutes in mild to heavy rainfall without having to use the manual override due to poor timing. Anyone else notice this improvement? This thread can sometimes be a bit depressing just want to give credit to the Tesla team for getting this done. | Beeper00 | 2018-12-21 05:44:32 | 65 | ec8n3cu | Still wiping inside my garage and not wiping drizzle at night. Tesla need to cut their losses here and implement the same sensor everyone else uses instead of trying to detect rain with a vision system. Just because they have a hammer doesn t mean everything is a nail. | drdabbles | 2018-12-21 08:51:08 | 34 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6oypqi | 484 Days & 8 Hours | for those of us who reserved on preorder (march 31st 2016) day at the first moment the stores opened it will be approximately 484 days & 8 Hours after our initial commitment to buy that we get to the the finished car and learn about its features on friday 7pm july 28th 2017. congratulations to everyone who reserved and have waited this long especially at tesla for making this dream a reality. | babsndeep | 2017-07-23 01:24:51 | 67 | dkl982j | We did it? But seriously is the wait over yet? | Infinite101 | 2017-07-23 01:40:37 | 21 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
2u7mcm | 4WD performance vs other cars? | I m look for sources that pits the Tesla against other top ~~4WD~~ AWD cars (eg. Audi s Subaru s etc). I live in the North were it we get a lot of snow. I drive a Subaru STi currently but am hoping to buy the Model 3 when it comes out hoping that it has a ~~4WD~~ AWD option. But since that s years away I m looking to find info on how the Model S ~~4WD~~ AWD compares to others. *edit* Thank u lugezin for the correction. | chanster | 2015-01-30 16:42:40 | 14 | co5ui9q | > 4WD To be a bit precise Tesla advertises itself having **AWD** (all wheel drive) rather than 4WD. 4WD could be understood to mean locking differentials in the architecture. So it s more accurate to call it **AWD**. TL DR: ~~4WD~~ AWD | lugezin | 2015-01-30 16:51:12 | 7 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
od4qz6 | 4th of July reminder (Fireworks and Sentry mode) | Turn it off before the fireworks start last night it was a little embarrassing when almost every car alarm we saw go off was a Tesla mine included :) It s nice we can disable them remotely but still. | yunus89115 | 2021-07-03 19:33:59 | 31 | h3zi1f1 | I don t know… they may have fireworks but we have *HEAVY METAL TOCCATA IN D MINOR* | -ZeroF56 | 2021-07-04 03:02:41 | 26 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
emq3eu | 5 % power increase missing in release notes in Germany | I updated my car twice since I bought it. The first update was 2019.36.x and 2019.40.x at the same time und a few days ago the big christmas update. Now I know that the German EU version of the Tesla software is not always the same as the US version e.g. smart summon was only released with the latest update and not with V10 in september. That can happen due to regulatory issues or simple differences between countries. The same is true for the FSD visualizations I get it that traffic lights work and look differently in Germany. I don t have a problem with that I m patient. With all that said the German patch notes make no mention of the 5 % power increase that was released with 2019.36.x in the US. Does this mean that we didn t get that upgrade? I drive a Model 3 LR AWD so it should be eligible. Everything else from that patch seems to be in (Cones stopping mode scheduled departure and automatic navigation). I can t test it because I never bothered to really measure the performance of my car but I really wish I knew if the power increase was left out in Germany or the EU for some reason. Is there anyone from Germany who can confirm that the power increase is included? Maybe it s left out of the patch notes if you do 2 updates at once? Also what does this mean for the paid acceleration boost? Are those 5 % missing there aswell? | Amarekratio | 2020-01-10 12:07:21 | 17 | fdq9275 | All power increases were also available in Germany. Your car should have it. Do you live in North Germany? Then we could measure the performance of your car using ScanMyTesla. | jandmc88 | 2020-01-10 12:36:28 | 8 | Tesla Challenges in Germany |
3bptxu | 5 Things I wish I had known about my new Model S before taking a 1600 mile road trip. | * **Not all J1772 connectors are created equal.** We had to turn our dinner stop into an overnight stop because the EV plug that we were counting on getting us to the next supercharger only provided 1.4 kW (12A@120V) instead of the 7.68 kW (32A@240V) that we calculated. * **When your battery pack gets very hot you will burn an additional 5-20kW keeping it cool.** * **A car wash with underbody cleaning is an easy and cheap way to cool your battery pack on long hot trips.** I had originally planned on skipping the Missoula supercharger but had to stop because my consumption was so much higher than my previous segment had been. I did 4 loops between a pair of exits 3.2 miles apart to try to figure out why my consumption spiked for seemingly no reason. The data made no sense. No traffic no massive windage changes and the usage was all over the graph. Listening to the cooling at the supercharger gave me the idea that it may be the battery cooling so I went through a car wash on a lark and everything returned to my baseline expectations. If you are driving on a tight energy budget this trick may well come in handy on very hot days. * **Climate control will not stay on unless a door is open or there is someone sitting in the driver s seat.** My poor wife couldn t figure out how to get the A C on while I took an extended restroom break and ended up sitting in the grass outside waiting for me to come back. * **The trunk windshield does not provide the same level of UV protection as the rest of the car.** My oldest child paid the price for this particular lesson. Hopefully it can save someone else the discomfort. | timlin45 | 2015-07-01 04:33:04 | 77 | csoeyta | To keep the car on when the driver exits and someone is still in the passenger seat have the passenger tap the screen immediately upon the driver exiting the car and closing the driver side door. The car will remain on for a certain amount of time. | ModelSD | 2015-07-01 05:39:12 | 24 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4hviw4 | 5 occupants survive Tesla crash in Germany | German newspapers [report](http: www.merkur.de lokales wolfratshausen icking-ort28838 unfall-icking-18-jaehrige-verliert-kontrolle-ueber-sportwagen-6373049.html) an extreme accident involving a somersaulting Tesla Model S with five 18- and 19-year old occupants. They all survive without life-threatening injuries. Goes to show how safe a Tesla really is the car looks pretty beat-up (multiple pictures in the article). | TheTipsyToucan | 2016-05-04 17:16:14 | 63 | d2snrb1 | That sounds like a recipe for disaster.. 5 18 & 19 year old occupants | trinitesla | 2016-05-04 17:19:05 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5akfey | 5 week lead time on replacement glass | Just had my Model S broken into last night and need a new rear window. Tesla approved body shop says the lead time is 5 weeks. I just got my car back from the body shop after an accident in JUNE and it took them over 6 weeks to get a specific part for the airbag assembly. It seems there are real consequences to the push to meet the quarterly vehicle delivery goals. New vehicles definitely are getting priority. | stevep98 | 2016-11-01 17:30:57 | 37 | d9h49um | This is my biggest fear about my upcoming Model 3 purchase. Really worried they won t be able to keep up in the servicing of all these vehicles. | thebigbobowski | 2016-11-01 17:56:32 | 26 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9cdhgy | 50 days fully paid still no delivery: A Texas Story | You may have seen me complaining around the sub here and there but I wanted to lay out my full story today on day 50. Here s my timeline: Reserved July 2017 Configured (RWD Aero EAP White) **June 27 2018** Paid in full on **July 13th** Delivery date scheduled for **August 4th** Delivery delayed to **August 11th** Delivery delayed to **August 17th** Delivery delayed to **August 23rd** Delivery delayed to ** August - October ** That is as of today my Model 3 has been 100% paid off for 50 days. I do not have my car I do not have a delivery date and my *second* loan payment will be paid today. The service and communication I have experienced from Tesla has been remarkably poor. My IDA seems utterly asleep at the wheel (no pun intended). In the space of my 4 delivery delays I have taken days off work and pushed back vacation plans to accommodate but was never once even contacted to let me know my car was not going to be there for delivery. All I have ever been told since my initial delivery date of August 4th is that your car is in Oklahoma. Once I was told Your Model 3 s battery was not charged. This is the reason for the delay. On the rare occasions my IDA does get back to me she acts as if it s the first time she has heard of my situation. It s the most frustrating and disappointing purchase experience I ve ever had. I know a number of other Austin residents who have ordered paid for and received their vehicle in the time of just my delays. One can t help but feel singled out. Perhaps the most frustrating part of this process has been the inability to escalate my issue. Requests to my IDA hour-long phone calls with Tesla support and numerous emails have resulted in nothing. I ve even sussed out the email addresses of a number of higher-ups in the Texas delivery division but nobody ever gets back to me. I have no doubt that this will all be but a distant dream once I do get my car but for now it has just been a shit-ass experience. Thank you for indulging my complaining. [EDIT] Thanks for the Gold can I drive this? [UPDATE] [See this post for the latest update](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9dj3kq update_54_days_fully_paid_i_have_taken_delivery_a ?st=jly34bhq& sh=2cea58fd) | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-02 16:46:46 | 713 | e59wffu | Your story should never happen there are too many people happy about getting their car in less than a week. My guess is they found a significant issue with your car and because the VIN was already assigned and you have a loan on the vehicle they can t (or don t want to) just give you another car. You can probably take Tesla to small claims court and get some of your money back. I m a fan and an Investor but I know I d be more than upset if that happened to me. | phxees | 2018-09-02 17:13:37 | 204 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
827ion | 500 Mile Review of the Model 3 (Long Post) | Recently I was able to spend multiple days with a fully loaded Model 3 and logged over 500 miles including multiple 3 hour trips. I drove in a wide variety of conditions including interstates suburbs winding country roads and even stop and go city traffic. Some of the roads were pristine while others were covered in bumps and recently filled potholes. My expanded thoughts are below. **Chassis:** What continued to impress me the most throughout my time with the Model 3 was easily the chassis. It is superb and allows the car to corner much better than I ever expected for a relatively heavy sedan. It reminded me very much of my Honda S2000 convertible and had me purposely drive out to some of my favorite winding roads. The 3 stays balanced and extremely flat throughout corners and combined with big motor torque make the vehicle a true performer. Although it has been advertised as an electric car for the masses in reality I think Tesla targeted the sports sedan market and nailed it in execution. **Torque:** Does it ever get old hitting the throttle on the 3 results in instantaneous acceleration. There literally is no delay and it becomes seriously addicting. Especially if you are coming from lowered powered 4 cylinder vehicles. Need to get ahead of a group of cars on the highway? Done. Need to jump off the line at a stoplight? Piece of cake. I cannot think of any internal combustion car I ve driven (naturally aspirated V8 s included) that offers this level of response and instant speed change. **Ride:** An area where the 3 has been getting many negative comments I personally found the ride to be more than acceptable even on the larger sport wheels over rough roads. It is definitely tuned for a sporty feel and not a super plush highway ride but handles bumps and jolts very well without beating you up like some performance vehicles. It is worth noting that my vehicle was a February build and therefore likely had revised suspension spring rates. **Autopilot:** I spent some time with both AP and TACC. It was my first time using either as the other Tesla s I ve driven did not have the systems. AP worked overall very well especially with lane centering. The system was able to recognize lane lines on some roads where I didn t think it had a chance. Auto lane change was not as perfect the car had a few hesitations and one complete bail during lane changes that lead me to believe there is still work to be done. TACC worked perfectly in all scenarios and is a real joy to use in stop and go traffic. I really wish there was a standalone TACC option as I would consider it. However combined with EAP I will be passing for now as I don t think it is worth $5 000. **Range:** Although the long range battery is rated at 310 miles cold weather always has a negative effect on EV s and I was particular interested in how it stacked up for myself. A 3 hour drive averaging 75-80 mph during a night with temperatures just above freezing was the perfect test. I kept climate control set to 70 with the seat heater on low. The model 3 averaged around 330 Wh mi which equates to just below 230 miles of range. Although this is a large difference from the EPA rating I still never had range anxiety and consider this to be a big advantage the 3 has over other EV offering with a 200 mile “rated” range. Even in a relatively worst case scenario there is plenty of range to make it between superchargers without having to worry about conserving energy. **Charging:** I tried charging at both extremes: level 1 and superchargers. On level 1 set to 12 amps I was able to charge at 4mph on my garages 110 volt outlet. Although this is far from ideal in a pinch when visiting friends or family where this is the only option it still allows for 40+ miles to be recovered overnight. On the other hand during my longest highway journey of close to 3.5 hours I stopped at one supercharger and was able to receive close to 100kW of power. This resulted in 220 miles of range added in approximately 35 minutes. **Ergonomics:** During my time with the 3 I really fell in love with the overall interior design. The seats are very comfortable for someone my height (6 5”) and offer plenty of leg and head room. The 4 way lumbar adjustment felt great as well. It is worth noting that the lower back lumbar is not as aggressive as the upper back adjustment. The arm rests are both very long and comfortable. The steering wheel has a large range of adjustment both in the height and depth which provide a great overall driving position. The low hood design and relatively tall windshield offer an amazing view of the road. I didn t fully appreciate how open and spacious the cabin was until I ended my time in the 3 and returned to my Honda. Only then did I realize how expansive the 3 feels. For a relatively small car on the outside there is a huge amount of room on the interior of the vehicle. Tesla did a great job with the layout. **Touchscreen:** Probably the most debated and talked about feature of the model 3 is the center mounted touchscreen which controls almost everything in the car aside from a few things. Although I was one of the doubters when I saw the final interior reveal the more time I spend with it the more I really like it. Basic vehicle information such as speed power regen levels and light indicators are all very easy to read at a glance. The overall eye distance between looking at the road and glancing at vehicle status is essentially the same as traditional behind the steering wheel gauges. The right side of the screen is dominated by the map display and offers the easiest navigation system I ve ever used. Although turn by turn instructions and ETA information are currently displayed on the far right which should probably be moved the visual directions are displayed in the middle of the screen and are very easy to read. Even accessing vehicle menus became very easy after a few days getting used to the location of everything. **Keys:** Since I was bowing the car I did not have access to the Bluetooth locking system. I relied entirely on the key card. While the card worked perfectly every time I used it there are a few annoyances worth noting. One the card does not work if placed inside a wallet. I was expecting the signal to still be able to penetrate my wallet if held right up next to the car however this was not the case. Even when I placed the card in the thinnest section of my wallet the car would still not register it. The card has to physically touch the car to unlock and then start it every time. The second annoyance relates to stepping out of the car. Every time you get out of the driver s seat the car has to be “restarted” when you get back in before it will let you switch into drive. This requires tapping the card on the center console each time. This is somewhat annoying when you need to jump out of the car briefly but would like to leave it running so you can easily drive off when you are back inside. Using Bluetooth likely alleviates both of these issues but if you plan on using the key cards often it is worth nothing. **Issues:** I only experienced a few minor issues with the car during my time with it. The first related to the exterior door handles. Once while opening the driver s door and later on with the passenger door the window didn t immediately drop down when I pulled the handle. It seemed slightly delayed which probably caused it to pull on the weather stripping pieces a bit. The second was the volume scroll wheel on the steering wheel. Normally each click of the wheel results in a volume change. However I had multiple occurrences where it took 4 or 5 clicks for each volume adjustment to register. Not sure if this is hardware or software related. **Closing thoughts:** The Model 3 is one of the most impressive new cars I have ever driven. Although the key system and center touchscreen are probably not for everyone the entire package is incredibly well designed and offers a level of practicality luxury performance and efficiency that is hard to match. It is the poster child for how future vehicles will likely be designed and combines a great deal of technology while offering an exceptional driving experience behind the wheel. | speed_hunter | 2018-03-05 17:15:51 | 170 | dv80360 | Rented one on Turo this weekend just for a day but probably did about 150 miles. I agree with everything you said (I m even 6 5 as well lol.) Very hard to not put my foot to the floor almost every time I pulled away from a light. I experienced the same annoyances with the card key and the volume adjustment from the steering wheel scroll wheel. There were times where I sat in the car and tapped the card all over the cup holder area trying to get it to recognize the card so I could drive away and spent like 30 seconds until it finally registered. | MooseAMZN | 2018-03-05 17:52:31 | 28 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
6inid0 | 500 miles and got my first rock chip on my hood yay | Ordered Dr Rockchip. Anyone know if this shit will work? | Moronicon | 2017-06-21 17:52:33 | 10 | dj7lidg | [Why not just get Tesla s touch up paint?](https: shop.teslamotors.com products model-s-touch-up-paint) Granted some colors are out of stock | dieabetic | 2017-06-21 18:04:52 | 10 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
bwc546 | 500% Referral boost dependent on delivery date - not order date! | Edit: my bonus has been fixed I now have 15000 km (2x7500 km). Thanks Tesla Turns out the 500% referral boost is dependent of the delivery date and not the order date. This means that all the work many of us has put into getting referrals in may is basically wasted as orders or most likely delivered in june or later. I have three referrals made in beginning of may. So i m pretty pissed about this. & #x200B This doesn t make any sense and makes it totally random who gets the 500% boost. It s basically like saying: so you made an extra effort while the boost lasted. Well too bad. Ha ha. Got ya. & #x200B I really don t think this is fair at all. It should be dependent on order date and not delivery date. I hope you will upvote this if you agree that this is wrong. | lokesen | 2019-06-03 15:45:01 | 78 | epwmxl3 | Although it is true that the system is handling awarding free supercharging this way. I am relatively certain that it is a systemic programming error that will eventually be corrected retroactively. As I understand it Tesla is well aware of the issue. I can confirm this is happening in my account. | TeslaDan | 2019-06-03 16:36:58 | 17 | Issues with Tesla Referral Program |
blj589 | 5000 miles supercharging expired after 6 months ? | The new referral incentive says 5000 miles of supercharging. I contacted support and they said it expires after 6 months! Is this true? Does anybody actually use 5000 miles in a year? Forget 6 months. I thought it was for the life of the car or maybe a few years...but 6 months is crazy. | newtonfb | 2019-05-06 23:13:11 | 20 | emotwos | Tesla is being a little stingy. I haven t driven 5k miles total and I ve owned the car for 7 months lol. Their goal is to get you to not use up all the miles obviously. | maybeandroid | 2019-05-06 23:16:18 | 18 | Issues with Tesla Referral Program |
3gx845 | 5000 miles with a Tesla Model S 85D | Last year I became hopelessly enamored with a Tesla Model S after test driving one. This year I test drove one again and decided this need to happen. Given that I currently had a very nice car a Cadillac CTS-V Wagon it was surprising to my wife that I wanted to make the jump. But we crunched some numbers and made it work. Taking nothing away from the CTS-V it was a wonderful car but the Tesla is on a whole other level. [Out with the awesome old in with the slightly more awesome new](https: farm1.staticflickr.com 476 19080579532_5c4bb0bf3f_b.jpg) Since taking delivery I ve driven 5000 miles in slightly less than 3 months. I ve learned a few things about owning an electric car and gotten an understanding of what it takes to live with one as my only car. First a few numbers: **Fun numbers** * Number of Supercharger enabled road trips taken: 5 * Number of total different Superchargers visited: 12 * Longest drive in a single day: 405 miles * Total average electrical usage: 313 watt-hours mile * Average electric bill increase per month: $65 **Superchargers** My favorite Supercharger thus far is in Maumee Ohio. It s in the parking lot of a 24 Meijer and has an awesome smoothie place right next door. My least favorite is at the Montgomery Mall in Bethesda MD. It s a temporary location - only 2 chargers in a very busy location and charged at only 70 miles hour whereas other superchargers average 200-300. The most crowded I ve ever seen a full 6-8 bay Supercharger was in Country Club Illinois - 2 Teslas there when I arrived and 2 different ones there when I left. As I travel only in the midwest and once to DC I m not in a high Tesla area so I m almost always the only Tesla at any given stop. **Range and Charging** My commute is 12 miles each way so range is never an issue at home. I ve traveled a full day s worth of errands with no worry about running out. On the aforementioned 400 mile drive which normally takes me 6 1 2 hours with bathroom and food stops it took me 7 1 2 hours to make it home which included 3 charge stops and leaving at the start with only 100 miles of range. Waiting to charge takes longer than gassing up but I don t mind the breaks. Superchargers are located every 100-150 miles for the most part so regaining lost range will take about half an hour at each stop. (unless it s that stupid Montgomery Mall one...) [Posing with a friend s Lego built 2 3 scale Supercharger](https: farm1.staticflickr.com 367 19047991761_6dab3abd7e_b.jpg) **Performance** Oh my god you guys the Tesla smile is a real thing. The torque and the immediate grip thanks to the AWD means you stomp the go pedal and you GO. 0-60 is rated at 4.2-4.4 but it feels faster than my old CTS-V which was rated at 4.2 The lack of shifting and any turbo lag or anything like that just makes it feel faster. The traction control is solid and completely eliminates wheel slip. A full throttle acceleration is amazing in its simplicity. You stomp the go pedal the electrons surge the motors sound like a sci-fi special effect and boom you re somewhere else smooth and fast. **Interior and Utility** The Tesla is something of an acquired taste if you re used to modern car interiors. It s clean simple and spartan. It lacks interior storage space but that just acts to keep clutter at a minimum. There s nowhere to put all your extra crap so it doesn t pile up The touch screen is huge clean and simple. It is fine with glare but tends to get smudgy with fingerprints. The car is tricky to get in and out of with my height because it s long and low. While the car lacks with storage cubbies it more than makes up for with cargo capacity. The Tesla actually has more interior cargo space than my wagon did and that doesn t include the frunk which can fit a sizeable duffle bag or if you want a kid. I ve taken the car camping and was able to fit plenty of camping gear along. I haven t used the roof rack yet but will try that out this weekend with my bikes. [Out in the dirt](https: farm1.staticflickr.com 392 19093046305_14c454e697_b.jpg) **Issues** My Tesla isn t perfect. It has a couple of minor details and build faults that need to get taken care of: * Adhesive has leaked out around the outside of the frunk liner. It looks like it was overspray during manufacturing * A screw has fallen out of the armrest leading it to be looser on one side than the other * There s a gap in the footwell where the trim panels don t reach all the way to the carpet. It tends to catch my shoe if I m not careful **Final Thoughts** I don t know what else to say about this car. I just love it and don t miss my V at all. When the Model 3 comes out if it s even close to this much car is going to be such a paradigm shift. | brickfrenzy | 2015-08-14 01:23:12 | 54 | cu2ame9 | I hope you ve already talked to Tesla service about your issues. They will easily address those for you! We ve just hit around 400 miles on our 85D. Can t stop smiling when we drive it. | ZoidCTF | 2015-08-14 01:29:36 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
c01ihy | 5000-mile US Road Trip (2014 S85) | Just thought I d add to the list of road trip reports here. I have over 107k on my 2014 S85 and recently came back from a 5000-mile road trip. The Supercharging and destination charging network arrangement provided plenty of confidence in making this possible. Started out in Fremont CA and passed through Reno Salt Lake City Denver Wichita Dallas Houston Austin El Paso Phoenix Indio Los Angeles and Pismo Beach. This took over 2 weeks and I m glad it s something I tried. Some lengthy trip write-ups and pics: https: mybluetesla.com 2019-05-13.html https: mybluetesla.com 2019-05-16.html https: mybluetesla.com 2019-05-22.html https: mybluetesla.com 2019-05-26.html https: mybluetesla.com 2019-05-29.html Hardly saw other Teslas outside of California during my trip (not surprising) but saw plenty of F-150s Silverados RAMs and Tundras. I wonder how Tesla s pickup will fare with this crowd. My car held up well and I relied on Autopilot (HW1) for virtually all freeway driving although I encountered one phantom braking event. A door handle went down for the count along the way too. Visited the DeLorean Motor Co. and ate a lot of BBQ in Texas. I imagine my trip might ve been a bit easier if I had a Model S with a bigger battery pack or a LR Model 3. I just have to sit here and be jealous of the rest you. | not-really-anonymous | 2019-06-13 04:49:28 | 44 | eqzr8dh | LR3 is an amazing road trip car but it s kind of noisy on the highway. You ve got the quieter smoother ride. | teslacometrue | 2019-06-13 05:45:46 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
5vs6vd | 50K mile maintenance info + some warranty checks fixes | Alright everyone here is my 50 000 mile maintenance warranty update. As you all may know I did just buy the $4 000 extended service agreement (extended warranty). My car was technically at 50 100+ miles when I took it in for the maintenance... but because I had called for warranty repairs 3 weeks prior (note: first available appointment was 1.5-2 weeks after I called but that didnt work with my schedule) they didn t charge me the $200 as if I had called for extended warranty repairs. Also they originally told me it was $900 but I had to remind them the pricing literally just changed days ago and now it was $850. Here is what they did (with my comments): 1) [Here is what the annual service includes.](http: imgur.com a kGXiU) I did ask if I really needed the service since I had my 37.5K and had the drive unit replaced. They said yes not only for the ESA but also at 50K they replace the battery coolant. My advisor used the battery coolant as the reason for the increased pricing for the 50K mile checkup... ~~but that s literally 1 QT of coolant and I doubt it really takes that long~~ (edit incorrect). I don t think the 50K mile checkup is worth $850 at all. 2) They replaced both of my key FOBs. A couple weeks ago I got the key battery low alert on my driver s screen that absolutely would NOT go away even when I replaced both batteries did the reset etc. We then found out that my wife s FOB had died. The service notes said they replaced batteries and tried to re-learn both FOBs but that didnt work. Then they found out my wife s FOB wasn t responding and there was no evidence of water damage. My key had a slight crack on it so I guess they just replaced both and everything works fine now and alert is gone. 3) Interesting note: when the key FOB fucked up summon was NOT available. Even with the working key FOB or double clicking the parking gear on the stick... the car absolutely would not summon forward or backward. It just sat there blinking the lights. I asked them to look into this as well and once both key FOBs were fixed summon suddenly started working. I told them to report this to engineering because summon should NOT fail just because one key FOB battery is low or dead. I have no idea how those two are connected but they assured me they would pass it up the line to fix the glitch. 4) They checked my battery and charger and said they are fine. A month ago I was at Fountain Valley supercharger at about 1am (with no other car around or paired) and was stuck at 50kW-70kW charging even at 5% battery. I called Tesla service and they remotely saw nothing wrong with my car or the supercharger so they put a note on my file to have my car checked. Everything on my car is fine - it looks like it may just have been a power supply issue at that supercharger that night. 5) Pano roof chatter when opening: they took a look and apparently I had a lot of debris and it just needed some lube. I could have fixed this myself if they would give me the damn maintenance manual. I m assuming it just some vacuuming of debris and squirt of lube. 6) Belt molding (chrome around doors) slightly off - so they fixed that. 7) Courtesy check for alignment and tire pressure. 8) Cleaning detailing My appointment was Wednesday last week. I dropped it off and Costa Mesa service is so busy diagnostics couldn t be done until Friday and I was able to pick up my car on Saturday. No Tesla loaner - I was given a new Cadillac XTS which is a nice car but the infotainment system was a pain the buttons to set the seat mirrors position wouldnt save so I had to reset every time and Apple Carplay is cool but every time it gave directions it switched off the XM radio... so literally every time I got directions I had to hit the screen to get radio to play again (very annoying). Thing also gets 17-18mpg - but I didnt have to pay for gas. Overall glad to have everything fixed and clean but there is no way that service is worth $850. When I first got my car it was $600 per year - but now they have changed the costs either higher or lower depending on the service. A flushing and refill of ~~1 qt of battery coolant~~ (edit: take that back not sure on amount) is not worth another $250 (or extra $375 if you are comparing to new $475 price for 37.5K maintenance). Cheers Edit reason: I thought the 1 QT Brake fluid was the battery fluid my bad. Not sure how many quarts of battery coolant are in the car. Still not worth the extra $250-$375 IMO. Maybe an employee can explain exactly how much and how hard it is to drain refill? | dieabetic | 2017-02-23 18:42:13 | 64 | de4h15t | Elon claims the service centers are not profit centers but $850 seems high. On the other hand Elon is probably right and your and others $850 barely makes a dent in the service center s expenses doing warranty repairs. | geo38 | 2017-02-23 19:33:57 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
f3exqj | 54 Days in storage battery results! Model 3 | So back on December 20th. I shipped my US Model 3 overseas to Europe. I fully charged my vehicle and it shipped with 97% battery. My Model 3 finally arrive to Europe today February 13th and I am astonished at how much battery percent is left. After 54 days of being in storage mode while enroute to Europe I picked up my vehicle with 73% battery left. That s a total of 24% battery loss over 54 day period. This is very impressive. I thought for sure the battery would be < 10% battery. So this is a DP for those who are looking to long term store your Model 3. TLDR: 54 days in storage. Started at 97% battery ended with 73%. 24% battery loss. | churningcents2011 | 2020-02-13 19:02:58 | 329 | fhiny3q | You ll definitely need to get rid of that old electricity and charge it up with some fresh stuff or the car may not start. ... err wait that s gas | Sam1Ron | 2020-02-13 21:13:57 | 324 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7ok0or | 54 km of range lost overnight in extreme cold - 6 hr only of parking ~-25C | https: www.facebook.com pg tsla3 posts ?ref=page_internal The title is a direct quote from You You s Facebook feed on his whirlwind trip thru Ontario. He also had a large loss when parked outside overnight in New York City at New Years. He has posted a 9 minute of not making it to a supercharger....I havn t watch it yet. It seems to me this car is sucking juice to the point I wouldn t be able to park it at Pearson Airport for more than five days before bricking the battery. Anyone want to pipe in here on this? Does anyone park their Tesla at any airport in Quebec Ontario or the northern US in winter WITHOUT plugging it in and if so how many days? | navguy12 | 2018-01-06 16:03:42 | 22 | dsa1sdw | I wonder how much of that is not lost charge but simply lower range because the battery pack is colder? | Yarblek | 2018-01-06 16:25:20 | 18 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
izoblf | 56% less than what though $150 kWh or $110 kWh or what? | If the price of the batteries is currently $150 kWh then reducing it 56% in 3 years is good but nothing unexpected. If the current price is $110 kWh then this is going to upend more than transportation markets in just a few years. Imagine a cordless saw with the kind of battery power for that low of a price. So which is it? Price parity with ICE in three years or market changing prices? | evnomics | 2020-09-25 17:54:11 | 49 | g6k2lw5 | 56% less than current price Tesla pays. They don t say what that is though. | Ihaveamodel3 | 2020-09-25 18:02:37 | 58 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
a7df6s | 5k refund checks coming | I got this text in an email Hello XXXXXX The check was mailed out last week. You should be receiving it within the next week or so. Please feel free to email me back if you do not receive it by the end of next week. Regards. Tesla Support | 24 7 Customer Support: 877-798-3752 Some users on TMC are also reporting actually getting the checks already https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads performance-upgrade-price-change.133264 page-133 | Lunares | 2018-12-18 17:57:21 | 24 | ec232ah | I m so happy the refunds are coming! | croninsiglos | 2018-12-18 18:02:12 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8l2ea3 | 5k week drama aside watching model 3 come out so much faster than roadster S or X has been exhilarating! | The first time I saw a roadster I couldn t believe how much smaller it was in real life compared to pictures. The first Model S I saw in 2013 I followed for a few blocks in my car just to get a good picture. Now that model 3 has finally arrived its amazing how it s already becoming so commonplace. It s easy to get caught up in the production drama but that will go away eventually (or I guess my Tesla stock will be worth $0) but Tesla has grown so much so fast and I love tracking all of its successes and failures. | cowsmakemehappy | 2018-05-21 17:02:51 | 217 | dzcltt8 | Unidan is that you? Why are there no comments for so many upvotes? | OneoftheChosen | 2018-05-21 20:11:45 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8xe6el | 5x battery drain when battery is low? | Last night I parked with 27 miles. I only needed 15 to get to work to charge and I usually lose around 2 miles every night during the summer. However I woke up this morning with only 15 miles left! And in the 15 minutes to get ready I only had 13 miles left when I got into the car. Is it normal for Tesla s to have more battery drain when the battery is low? | godbreath | 2018-07-09 17:52:57 | 10 | e22ndg0 | Interesting. State of Charge is always an estimation so I wouldn t trust it to park with so few miles remaining. First time I ve read about this though. What car do you have? | MacGyverBE | 2018-07-09 18:14:06 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8xsgsn | 6 days away from delivery - Still no MVPA to send to CU - Time to worry? | \*UPDATE\* After reaching out to my ISA yesterday and explaining my situation he came through and was able to get me the documents today! I got everything signed and sent the copy to my credit union to finalize the loan. Once you sign the MVPA the option to pay the remaining down payment balance appears. It took 30 seconds to process via ACH to my checking account! Now I need to wait 5 days for delivery! Hey everyone! I was able to configure during the opening of the floodgates at the end of June (04 01 16 reservation) and got a VIN within a few days and a delivery date of 07 16. I know my ISA mentioned that final paperwork is usually received and handled 48-72 hours before delivery. However my concern is that 48-72 hours before is Friday Saturday since my delivery is on a Monday. I m financing with Alliant Credit Union and they are closed on the weekends. Alliant says they need the MVPA by Friday at the latest to get the loan funded in time for delivery. They can also process it on Monday but the wire won t go through until after 2 PM CST which is 5 hours after my scheduled delivery time. I emailed my ISA yesterday but I haven t received a response yet. They also don t answer the phone so I left a voicemail. I m sure they are going through delivery hell over there. Has anyone else been through this specific scenario? Should I call Tesla and escalate my case? I would appreciate any input! | Krez5150 | 2018-07-10 19:29:26 | 21 | e25b7hi | Email your advisor and remind him | analyst_84 | 2018-07-10 19:44:23 | 7 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
c3n052 | 6 months and 23k miles in - Model 3 LR AWD | Battery still estimates 310 miles after full charge. * 80% of charging done at superchargers (trips up and down east coast -I95) * Maximum charge set to 90% (except for 10 occasions -100%) * Battery currently at \~70.5KW usable (Whrmile \* distance traveled that is above 300 miles + left over miles \* Whrmile) & #x200B https: i.redd.it 30hfr2jm3v531.jpg | pandakyn | 2019-06-22 07:56:40 | 50 | errzn6i | The model 3 batteries are a beast | analyst_84 | 2019-06-22 08:17:53 | 25 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
5qeca7 | 6 months in still waiting on my repair.... | Just a quick update I m STILL waiting on my S repair. My body shop didn t receive enough parts to begin work until 5 months after the accident (occurred July 2016 had sufficient parts to begin in mid-December 2016). Tesla customer service (not the local service center but the centralized service in CA) finally escalated it after numerous reps refused to take ownership and kept bouncing us around. They assure us all outstanding parts should be delivered within a few days but that doesn t really mean much because they told us that exact same promise in November. At this point I d be grateful to get it back in Feb which will be 7 months total spent in the shop. That s 7 months of paying rather large monthly payments and not getting to drive my car. I ll probably publish an article on this after I get it back. This is a serious problem that Tesla needs to address other posts on TMC etc regarding this so other people are suffering from it too but most not as long as I have. Context prior posts: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 5chgd5 my_s_will_have_been_in_the_shop_longer_than_ive https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 54yz9s still_waiting | NewCow | 2017-01-27 01:31:23 | 141 | dcykwra | Wow. I m sorry to hear that. You should absolutely write an article on it Tesla needs to hear it. It s hard for me to imagine waiting 7 months for a repair and continuing payments + renting a car. There should really be consumer protection laws on things like that. Keep us updated I hope it gets sorted ASAP. | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2017-01-27 01:56:58 | 68 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
77kc7l | 6 vs 7 seat configuration? | What would you recommend for a small family. Today we are 2 adults 1 infant and a small dog. We will likely have another child in a year or 2. I was leaning towards 6 seater for ease of getting to the back row. | benjamingolub | 2017-10-20 06:16:53 | 10 | domu48o | I prefer the 6 seater as it s more open and the feeling of space with the centre isle is great. It s kind of unique. However if you have dogs and fold the 3rd row down remember that there is nothing to prevent the dogs from moving forward to the middle row. | kevin4076 | 2017-10-20 12:46:54 | 6 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
6agcef | 6-15 adapter no longer on the store | I cannot imagine it was that popular to begin with but I really hate how unpredictable Tesla is with these damn adapters. | mattmass | 2017-05-10 23:10:07 | 11 | dhfcce2 | I don t really understand why they don t just run down a NEMA plug chart like this and build an adapter for every single type which provides the appropriate voltage and a ground: http: www.stayonline.com reference-nema-straight-blade.aspx I know it adds logistical overhead and manufacturing costs money but surely it would be small potatoes compared to the car business. At least the 6-15 adapter wasn t particularly important for electrically knowledgeable people. You can build a simple adapter that will let you use the 5-15 adapter with a 6-15 outlet and the amperage will be correct. It was a much bigger problem when the 14-30 adapter disappeared since that left *no* 30-amp adapters available. But still I wish they d support it all. | mikeash | 2017-05-11 16:16:04 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
3137na | 6.2 Lesson of the day: Turn off Valet mode! | I picked my car up from a window tinting job today and hit the road. I saw a car coming but knew I had plenty of time to squeeze in with max power. No problem right? Oops. I forgot to turn off the Valet mode so the rocket was more of a sputter. The guy behind me was not very pleased but it could have been much worse. Obviously the car did exactly what it should and I was the idiot who left valet on. Lesson learned. | VRPilot | 2015-04-01 18:18:40 | 20 | cpy4csq | So how slow is the Model S when in Valet mode? Boring slow 10s 0-60 or just not Tesla fast? | WileECo | 2015-04-01 19:35:28 | 5 | Tesla phone key functionality |
a4qj6p | 60 Minutes Should Be Ashamed of Themselves | Tesla is an American success story. The first auto manufacturer in the US to succeed in nearly a hundred years. Oh and they are changing the world making electric vehicles exclusively. But what did 60 Minutes show? Negative bullshit putting Elon on the defensive for the entire segment. I really thought they would talk about the Tesla story their future plans anything substantial. The 60 minutes segment from 10 years ago is much better. What happened? They should be embarrassed to be a part of the problem. | Xilverbolt | 2018-12-10 00:33:42 | 763 | ebgsryz | Honestly I think he did brilliantly- laughing at moments at the ridiculousness of the questions. I think the interview focused on creating a platform for a much wider audience who needed to know he was willing to answer tough and often biased questions. | 802macguy | 2018-12-10 00:42:34 | 342 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
cpcms0 | 60 amp wall charger + my big fat hot tub on a 100 amp service | Hi all just realized a bit of a problem. I bought a hot tub I ve been repairing for the last year for fun. It s a big boy with two motors. I suppose I can disabled the other big fat motor that blows the water around but... still. So now I am looking to install my Wall Charger 60 amps... So 60 for the Tesla 60 for the Hot Tub. I suppose the heater doesn t actually take that many amps it s the motor in high speed. So perhaps don t charge the Tesla and run the hot tub in HIGH and I should be OK? If I do I expect the entire house will shut off from the main house breaker? & #x200B I AM LEARNING SO MUCH ABOUT ELECTRICITY! This is very cool. & #x200B Edit: How is this post at 0 Karma? LOL. Really good conversation and education happening here! | sco_solace | 2019-08-12 13:49:35 | 10 | ewokjr4 | Time to upgrade to 200amp service. | Dr_Pippin | 2019-08-12 14:32:14 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
a2vqg1 | 600 000 Model Y Production goal by Feb 2021 | That s 12 000 Model Y per week or 600 000 per year x $55 000 average sale price = $33 billion annual revenue. On top of the increase in Model 3 production rate to 500 000 per year. Year 2021 annual revenue of Tesla might be at least $60 billion. That will be triple of what they earned this year within 3 years. That s not even counting likely 4th Gigafactory in Europe coming online. [https: www.marketwatch.com story tesla-had-speedy-plans-for-the-model-y-report-2018-12-03?siteid=yhoof2& yptr=yahoo](https: www.marketwatch.com story tesla-had-speedy-plans-for-the-model-y-report-2018-12-03?siteid=yhoof2& yptr=yahoo) The report cited a production target rate of 7 000 Model Y SUVs a week at the Gigafactory outside Reno Nev. by December 2020 and 5 000 Model Y SUVs a week at its China Gigafactory by February 2021. | lamgineer | 2018-12-04 01:43:24 | 42 | eb1iwdr | This is a spin-off from an article released earlier today by Business Insider: [https: www.businessinsider.com tesla-internal-timeline-for-model-y-2018-11](https: www.businessinsider.com tesla-internal-timeline-for-model-y-2018-11) It cited old documents and a Tesla spokesperson said the details in the documents were no longer accurate. These estimates were very likely pushed back to a later date and even though reasonable briefly hit TSLA midday before it recovered shortly after. | Kevenam | 2018-12-04 01:57:13 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
vn3tpy | 6000 miles Road Trip | Hey peeps This is my 1st post here and be gentle on me 😂😎😁. My family is thinking to do a 9 day Road Trip from Austin Texas to August Maine with almost non stop driving like what we are doing for years using a Mini Van (Honda Odyssey Toyota Sienna or Chrysler Pacfica). But this summer we are thinking to drive our Tesla 3 Standard Range RWD and we are debating IF we are going to do that or still rent from Enterprise that we re doing since 2005. Is it FEASIBLE? As the farthest we drove our M3 was to South Padre Island (here in Texas) then Dallas San Antonio & Houston. Our Road Trip is not your typical 1-2k miles for 1 week but 9-10 days (5-6k) with almost no stopping and if we do it s just 10-15 minutes gas (and pee) then drive again. Here s the itinerary: * Drive from home to Frankfort Kentucky (sleep here) * Capitol building of Frankfort * Drive to Charleston WV * Capitol building of Charleston * Trenton NJ (sleep here) * Capitol building of Trenton * Drive to NYC * NYC adventures * Drive to New Haven CT New Haven * Drive to Hartford CT (sleep here) * Capitol building in Hartford CT * Drive to Providence RI * Capitol building and other places in Providence * Drive to Boston MA * Spend time in Boston * Drive to Manchester NH * Spend time in Manchester * Drive to Concord NH * Capitol building in Concord * Drive to Portland ME * Spend time in Portland (sleep here) * Drive to Agusta ME * Capitol building in Agusta * Drive to Montpelier VT * Capitol building Montpelier * Drive to Albany NY (sleep here) * Drive to Niagara falls * Drive home Y all think we can use the M3 for 9 days without range anxiety will not take forever to charge and not missed all those places we are going for 9 days? Thanks in advance! | Comprehensive_Hippo8 | 2022-06-29 01:49:54 | 20 | ie6ohpa | Put your itinerary into the app A Better Route Plus and see how often and how long you will need to charge. Charging can add more time than you think so it s better to overestimate the amount of time needed rather than underestimate in my opinion. | gnarlsagan | 2022-06-29 13:49:38 | 20 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4r38xr | 60D to 75D | Ordered a 60D that should be here in early September. My order locks in July 6th.I am currently an owner of a VW Diesel and will be getting settlement $ in October. $9K of that will go to an upgrade to a 75D.I have questions. 1. What is the process of this upgrade? It is over the air. How long will that take? 2. Assuming my car is labeled 60D when I get it. Will I get a new badge that says 75D? 3. Besides the additional $500 to upgrade after ordering is there a downside to doing this? | Healyb | 2016-07-03 18:52:06 | 23 | d4xztjs | The car title will not be changed so if you go to resell it will always come up as a 60D. Other than that as a potential downside you have everything else covered. | notsooriginal | 2016-07-03 20:03:29 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2ept8j | 60kWh Owners... I am constantly in a battle with myself about which to pick (vs. 85kWh) when I buy mine about 1 year from now. | 60kWh owners what was it about it that made you decide on that model over the 85kWh. Surely a couple hundred more a month couldn t have broken the bank - so why the 60kWh? I m curious about your experiences with the 60kWh pack the speed compared to an 85kWh pack any range anxiety on trips where a Supercharger may not be near and the real-world range (with an ocassional heavy foot) etc. All of these things I try to find on the web with videos and apparently not many people record their 60kWh experience or make a review. I guess what it should come down to is if I feel like the extra 50-70~ miles the built in Supercharging tire upgrade and infinite mile warranty is worth $10 000. I like the idea of getting a 60kWh and potentially upgrading to a larger pack down the road when they produce them - this way I get a smaller monthly (and can buy it sooner) but I just can t find what owners dislike about the 60kWh pack. I drive 60 miles round trip for work which easily justifies the 60kWh pack but I feel like there could be times where I could be cutting it close if I want to go on a trip 130-140 miles away after work. So thanks for any input and to all I apologize for another 60 85 (which one?) type of post. I seemingly justify one or the other often and I just want to nail it down. **Edit: I m going with the 85. Thanks for all your input everyone!** **Edit 2: - Ok those who got Smart Air Suspension... do you use it often (not including the automated driving adjustments) is it worth $2 500?** **Edit 3: u Ohhijulie is making this difficult for me...he makes valid points. See my dilemma!** | 110110 | 2014-08-27 11:35:28 | 18 | ck1s7oy | You may know this already but to preserve battery capacity and life Tesla recommends that you do NOT charge to 100% capacity every night. Most people on the TM and TMC forums agree that charging to somewhere between 50% - 80% capacity should be the norm. I personally charge to 70% on most days. For me the decision to go with 85 greatly decreased my range anxiety and gave me more peace of mind with the warranty. No regrets there. Good luck with your decision! | hootyhoot | 2014-08-27 12:24:32 | 13 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
75t5o9 | 60kwh vs 75kwh Battery | Does anyone know how I can find out how the Classic 60kWh battery differs from the new 75kWh battery format (bolt location length width wiring) | Lyounis | 2017-10-11 23:48:49 | 11 | do8rjmo | There is a place online you can go to get the service manual for the Model S. It s a place where pirates anchor their ships very near the coast line. | putittogetherNOW | 2017-10-12 00:15:46 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7ltmo4 | 63 Teslas on the way to LA | Drove from LA to Gilroy today (12 23) and counted 7 car carries with 9 Teslas each headed south on the 5. Unfortunately didn t see any Model 3s. My guess is that 75% were model Xs. | rocketman_95046 | 2017-12-24 05:56:08 | 39 | drp1m8i | I have waited for “full trucks of Model 3” | rubikvn2100 | 2017-12-24 09:26:51 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
94ky2u | 69y o Dad who never cared about cars meets my Model 3 | I am still in awe of this story. For the 2.5 years I had my reservation my Dad has been so dismissive about Tesla never even wanting to hear about the benefits so I quickly gave up the topic. He s a “as long as it gets me from A to B” kind of guy who buys GM sedans out of habit and drives them for about 8 years. He also couldn t care less about acceleration or advanced features. To give you some perspective he still refuses to upgrade his iPhone 4S. BUT when I showed him my Model 3 for the first time he was extremely intrigued. I am the type of Tesla owner that can talk about the car nonstop for hours so I consciously try to not talk about it unless someone else brings up Tesla to discuss. From the moment he saw it my Dad would not stop asking questions amazed at the ideal answers I had to each of his questions. The lifespan of the battery total cost of ownership speed of supercharging regenerative braking safety features OTA updates tech etc. It was amazing watching this NON-car guy go from curiosity to obsessed. Fast forward ONE WEEK later he is seriously considering trading in a 9 year old Buick for a dual motor Model 3 with EAP. He actually told me he thinks he can get delivery in 2018 if he places his order in the next couple of weeks so he can get the full $7500 credit. The point of my post is that it was amazing seeing a man who NEVER CARED about cars become obsessed with the Model 3. I was optimistic before I got my 3 but now I totally get why people say this is the auto industry s iPhone moment. | David722 | 2018-08-04 17:44:30 | 379 | e3lt1sx | > The point of my post is that it was amazing seeing a man who NEVER CARED about cars become obsessed with the Model 3. I was optimistic before I got my 3 but now I totally get why people say this is the auto industry s iPhone moment. That s a good point but for me the fact that you had the opportunity to share your passion with your father (after initially giving up) bonding together was much more pleasing to read. I m happy for you. | shlokavica22 | 2018-08-04 18:24:27 | 97 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
o3reg4 | 7 Passenger MY - How is the AC in the way back? | Much of the US west has been going through a heatwave that is similar to frequently summer highs. I have a 7 passenger MS and regularly use the way back seats for kids. The heat in the way back of the MS is a known weak point. I have read the MY doesn t have vents for the third row but those seats are at least facing the same way as the second row. How has the temperature in the third row been for people who are seeing temps of 100F+? | SolidPrune6352 | 2021-06-19 22:27:13 | 20 | h2do4wd | Pretty sure all the passengers that have sat there for any reasonable amount of time isn t old enough to reply on Reddit yet. Check back in a couple years. | Incyc | 2021-06-20 00:40:23 | 128 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
e8fmgh | 7 steps Hot-spot connection process made me subscribe to premium connection | 7 steps Hot-spot connection process made me subscribe to premium connection For me at least this is the shortest process that actually works. if you ve been able to shorten the process (with iOS) Please let me know. & #x200B 1. press on wi-fi symbol 2. press wi-fi settings 3. in the new window press on 4. press the x to close window 5. press wi-fi list so it will search networks and find your hot spot plus on your phone (st least to make hot spot discoverable on my iPhone): 6. pree settings 7. scroll and get into the hot-spot window & #x200B EVERY SINGLE TIME AFTER YOU VE PARKED AND THEN YOU WANT TO USE SPOTIFY! | Gzrht | 2019-12-09 20:36:32 | 24 | fabjptp | Uh once it knows the hotspot you just switch WiFi on after putting it into drive? | RobDickinson | 2019-12-09 20:44:19 | 25 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
ledg5r | 7-seat Model Y demo vehicle now available at the Park Meadows Tesla Store in Denver CO | Just had the opportunity to check out the Model Y with 7 seat configuration at the Park Meadows Mall this afternoon. This is noteworthy since I haven t heard of this configuration being available previously other than the two locations in California. I suppose other locations should be getting these demo vehicles in store showroom very shortly. A few notes: the manager said they received the vehicle only yesterday (5 Feb). I didn t check the build date or VIN sadly (too busy with family in tow). The vehicle currently is only available to view not test drive (although ironically someone had accidentally lent it out for a test drive which the manager was upset about). As far as the build it had the heated steering wheel white seats white paint. Old headlights. Old center console. Couldn t confirm HEPA filter but unlikely. Let me know if you have any questions. Give the store a call if you want to check it out. They may move it indoors to the showroom soon however since they don t intend on making it for test drives yet... Edited to add: our impressions were much like we anticipated based on videos previously shared on YouTube by other people. Definitely tight for taller people but a very good solution for families looking for an affordable 7-seat EV. We re excited to have ours delivered hopefully soon! Edit 2 a list of other stores where folks have found them: - AZ - Scottsdale - CA - Costa Mesa - CA - Fashion Island - CA - La Jolla - CA - Palm Springs (?) - CA - Temecula - CO - Centennial (Park Meadows Mall) - CO - Colorado Springs - CO - Superior - MD - Bethesda - MO - Chesterfield - MO - Kansas City - NJ - Springfield - TX - El Paso - TX - Houston - TX - Plano - VA - Tyson s Corner - WA - Renton Final edit: as a bonus and since I don t see many people talking about it elsewhere I was able to confirm that yes the rear trunk sub-trunk while smaller includes a reversible lid that allows the user to choose a level surface (with a hump by the seats) or a flat but angled surface (like a ramp) that creates a seamless surface through the whole cargo area. This is a brilliant if otherwise benign solution to the cargo storage floor! | jimbo303 | 2021-02-07 02:41:24 | 58 | gmc3i7m | Just viewed the 7 seater in Scottsdale AZ tonight. Black interior. | kerneldoge | 2021-02-07 04:02:46 | 11 | Test Driving Tesla Models |
cjfid9 | 7000km Road Trip - Starts Tuesday! | My wife and I will be starting out from British Columbia Canada with the Majority of Route 66 and the Pacific Coast Highway in our sites! Looking forward to going on our first long road trip in our LR M3 :) The first 2 days of the trip are just getting down to New Mexico(Where we ll be starting Route 66). Follow along our Instagram Tesla account for what we re hoping will be a cool documented journey on the mother road! & #x200B [www.teslamcqueen.ca](https: www.teslamcqueen.ca) & #x200B https: i.redd.it zb2g9c44gad31.jpg | r12ryr | 2019-07-29 18:47:23 | 10 | evd9jxj | Don t forget to increase the PSI on the tires to get better efficiency. Might want to strap back on the Aero caps to get more efficiency too =) Most importantly have fun! | reefine | 2019-07-29 20:45:30 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8ipvx4 | 70A Circuit Breaker (56A output) HPWC for Model 3 | Reading comments here I know most people go with 50 or 60A breakers for the wall charger but I have the electrician here and he says my circuit can handle a 70A breaker which equates to 56A current output according to the HPWC manual. Wall charger can take up to 80A. Any downside to this? Would it be harder on batteries etc? | ProsumeThis | 2018-05-11 18:09:06 | 17 | dytnfku | Anything more than a 60amp breaker doesnt benefit the model 3 unless you pair up the HPWC s and have two model 3s to charge simultaneously. source: https: www.tesla.com support home-charging-installation#wall-connector Edit: Also consider futureproofing depending on the cost. Ask for quotes for price difference between the two it may be less thank you think and could help out long term if you change cars later that can accept a higher charge rate. | mattk926 | 2018-05-11 18:13:58 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
3ku2eq | 70D confirmed! | After 2 years waffling around it I my fully loaded 70d order was just confirmed. Can t wait to pick it up next month! | blackgold9 | 2015-09-13 22:06:56 | 42 | cv0hxh2 | Congrats man! You ll never regret it! | Bardlebee | 2015-09-13 22:13:20 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
41rtgg | 70D owners what options do you have that you now realize you could live without? | And on the flip side what options did you pass on that you wish you hadn t now? | GlobalServiced | 2016-01-20 00:59:03 | 13 | cz4t3ip | I went with an S70 w Standard Leather (no longer an option) AutoPilot and aftermarket cyclone 19s from Tsportline and have no regrets. Even the base car is light years ahead of most other cars. In the Southeast it s all you need really. If I lived where it snowed a lot and was cold a lot of the year I would have went with an 85D and subzero. If I lived in California I probably would have gone with Pano. Air suspension is virtually undetectable from a ride standpoint but the car looks killer lowered with 21s. If I didn t drive much I probably would have gone with Tsportline 20s and air suspension. I could have easily afforded a lot of options but didn t really see the value in more. I guess the best way to put it is it depends on the who what and where. | Ifuqinhateit | 2016-01-20 03:43:37 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
39c6o3 | 70D real world range for road trips? | The 70D is interesting because its entry level but actually pretty compelling as a package. I m wondering what real-world range people are getting out of it for highway motorway driving? And is that using standard charge or range mode? (does that distinction still exist?). e.g. If I charged up in London and headed west on the M4 how far would I get? | rosinchard | 2015-06-10 19:52:32 | 15 | cs297qp | > If I charged up in London and headed west on the M4 how far would I get? Well the M4 only goes extends west of London for 196 miles so the correct answer is: All the way. | paulwesterberg | 2015-06-10 21:20:00 | 13 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4cb0gq | 70d vs 90d worth the 13k difference? | Hey guys I test drove the Model S just to see how it would feel when I get the Model 3. I feel like I shouldn t had done that now because now I really want a Model S till the Model 3 comes out. I talked with my fiancée and she says I should go for it. When the Model 3 comes out she ll take over the Model S! I wasn t expecting this to happen but I m going to make it happen. I need some help to decide what to do. The only thing to decide now is which one should we get? 70d vs 90d? The only thing I really care about is the extra range on the 90d. I m coming from super slow car so 70d speed is expensive enough for me. Is the 90d range worth the extra 13k? | Shinne | 2016-03-28 16:58:14 | 11 | d1gjjm4 | After 4 months of daily (mostly winter) driving I ve never needed all the battery storage I have. More specifically I ve never had *less* than 60 miles in reserve. In other words as yet I could have done just fine with the S70. And the SC network is only getting better... and the gaps between smaller. Obviously this depends on where you live. But most of us are lugging around batteries (and weight) that we don t need 99% of the time. The minor increase in 0-60 performance is probably not worth the battery upgrade. If the cost of upgrade is making you reconsider buying not-buying a Model S then DEFINITELY get the S70. You re getting 99% of the car (and the driving experience) that the P90DL driver has during 99.9% of your journeys. | Major_Mollusk | 2016-03-28 17:18:30 | 7 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
apc642 | 72 Onboard Chargers no longer sold for S an X | Looking at a new Model X and there is no mention of 72 Amp on board charger anymore and on the Wall Connector page it only recommends a 60 amp breaker for one Tesla not 100 or 90 like it used to. 60 amp circuit breaker Model S 75D 100D P100D Model X 75D 100D P100D Model 3 Long Range & #x200B [https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories silver-wall-connector.html](https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories silver-wall-connector.html?tesref=true) | walkingcrow | 2019-02-11 03:46:51 | 21 | eg7vkdh | I m sure they have analytics on it to show that anything over 48amp was rarely used at home. Most people settle with a 50-60amp circuit which is more than enough and costs less to install. | emotive15 | 2019-02-11 12:02:00 | 12 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
622n00 | 75 000!!! | We hit 75 000 members of this subreddit!! We were at 74 000 about a week ago iirc | therendevouswithfish | 2017-03-28 22:15:28 | 83 | dfj7rlk | Yup! We get about 100 day. But with the latest couple of popular posts it must have accelerated :). Welcome newcomers see our sidebar [useful sites](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) page and the rest of the wiki to get up to speed. Also check out the rulez. | 110110 | 2017-03-28 22:17:59 | 28 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
91jczt | 8 Days until Q2 report... Will Tesla take Twitter or YouTube questions again. | Some things I d like to know. * What is the overall result of the barnacle scrubbing to date? * YoY progress on Gigafactory 2. What s happening in buffalo? * What does aggressively ramping solar products mean? * What does the production ramp for storage products look like? * Can you give us guidance on the distributed power plant as a marketable product? * What s the ramp roadmap for Puerto Rico going forward? | Eazz_Madpath | 2018-07-24 17:18:51 | 26 | e2yq9fb | They should definitely get hyperchange on their again | belladoyle | 2018-07-24 19:54:58 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
upz0pb | 8 Weeks and Going for a Replacement Window (Model S Plaid) | So someone shattered my passenger side window almost 2 months ago while I was at a concert in SF. I am still unable to a replacement window from anyone including Tesla. AND they are unsure of when that will change. I d feel marginally better if they were delivering new Model S . But they are which means they still have glass. I love my car but hard to use your vehicle when the front window is missing. Anyone got any ideas? My love for Tesla is fading… | Friscohoya | 2022-05-15 05:21:06 | 112 | i8o5dne | Put a trashbag on it take a picture and tweet it to Elon. Make sure to put some hashtags like #plaid #plaidexperience and such. | g1aiz | 2022-05-15 07:14:27 | 96 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
6vn2ek | 8-K for $1.8B bond offering shows $700k (conditional) bonus for Jon McNeill | Stumbled upon an interesting tidbit in Tesla s [8-K](http: ir.tesla.com secfiling.cfm?filingID=1564590-17-17989& CIK=1318605) filed today regarding a new Compensation Plan for Jon McNeill. > On August 18 2017 Tesla entered into an incentive compensation plan (the “ Compensation Plan ”) with Jon McNeill Tesla s President Global Sales and Service pursuant to which Mr. McNeill will be eligible to receive variable compensation upon the achievement of certain target levels of (i) vehicle deliveries during the third and fourth quarters of 2017 (ii) operational and financial metrics relating to vehicle service performance and costs during 2017 and (iii) customer satisfaction scores during 2017 with an aggregate target payout amount of $700 000. The specific target levels pursuant to the Compensation Plan are to be separately determined and payments pursuant to the Compensation Plan will be made in cash stock options or restricted stock units. EDIT: There was a similar program in place in 2016 where he earned $772k. It s noteworthy that he is the only executive that has a cash incentive plan. [Form 14A](http: ir.tesla.com secfiling.cfm?filingID=1193125-17-130746& CIK=1318605) filed on April 20 2017: > In 2016 Mr. McNeill participated in an incentive plan pursuant to which he was eligible to earn (i) between $5.00 and $15.00 for each new vehicle delivered in 2016 (ii) up to $200 000 for incremental reductions in average vehicle service backlog and service cycle times of at least 25% compared to the date of McNeill s commencement of employment and (iii) up to $200 000 for achievement of and incremental improvements beyond an average vehicle customer satisfaction score of at least 9.25 of 10.00 during 2016. There were no “Threshold ” “Target” or “Maximum” amounts payable under these plans other than as described above. Pursuant to these plans Mr. McNeill earned an aggregate $772 480 during 2016 which is reflected in the “Non-Equity Incentive Plan Compensation” column of the “ Summary Compensation Table ” above. We did not provide any non-equity incentive plan compensation to any of our other named executive officers in 2016. And the only one with additional perks! Nice. > We generally do not provide any additional perquisites to our named executive officers except in certain limited circumstances. In 2017 we commenced a housing allowance of $6 350 per month during 2017 to Mr. McNeill to facilitate his frequent travel to our California offices. | dntbevl1 | 2017-08-23 23:55:14 | 22 | dm1jfad | 700K is surprisingly low to be honest. Sure it s a lot of money for normal people but we are talking about a top Tesla employee. | zmarty | 2017-08-24 00:42:18 | 12 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
5gxqio | 8.0 -- better or worse? | With nearly 9k miles with 7.x and 9k miles with 8.x I really can t say that 8.0 is better. My personal experience has been that it s tried to kill me just as many times (if not more) and it s unavailable more often. Curious what other people s experience has been... | imdubious | 2016-12-07 03:57:13 | 10 | davxxpz | Agreed. I ve had mixed experiences with both. Here s the interesting thing: even though 8.0 changed some AP functionality the big change is coming in 8.1 when Tesla flips the switch on the radar being the primary sensor. Currently with 8.0 the camera is still primary while the fleet creates the whitelist for the radar. I m hoping the radar change is a big improvement. | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2016-12-07 04:57:51 | 9 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
54wkz9 | 8.0 AP after a few days of use | I m a heavy AP user and the new 8.0 AP seems much more stable. - It s picking up a lot more cars to track especially far in the distance - Takes the curves a lot smoother. - It seems to keep a safer distance from jersey barriers. Couple of stretches of the highway where I previously had to take over are now being handled. - The lane change seems more aggressive and much more natural - The initial flashing of the dash hands on wheel warning no longer pauses the music (or maybe I just notice it before it stops the music) which is great. Overall my AP confidence is higher. Anyone notice other changes? | clone_me | 2016-09-28 14:28:32 | 113 | d85lj5e | I m finding it better in some situations and worse in others. * Some curves are jerkier as it ping pongs more within the lane. * Others are smooth but are so smooth that the car starts drifiting into the other lane. * TACC doesn t seem to be keeping as consistent a distance with the car in front of me as it used to. * Lane change is slightly better but still sometimes doesn t work at all despite nobody being in my blind spots. * Still occasionally tends to lose the right side lines when approaching a truck in the right lane causing it to swoop toward the truck. * Overall doesn t seem to see the lines as well as before. * It does slow down sooner when approaching traffic at speed. My confidence in AP is lower and I look forward to more fine tunings as they work to get it right. | EatMoarToads | 2016-09-28 15:37:03 | 35 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
54cfl6 | 8.0 Update Increased Autopilot Steering Wheel Torque? | It seems like the 8.0 update increased the torque applied to the steering wheel when autosteer is active. When using autopilot I will apply some corrective force when I don t agree with how it s driving but after upgrading to 8.0 last night I find myself constantly accidentally disabling autosteer. To be honest it s a rather infuriating change since it feels like I m activating and deactivating autosteer once every few minutes on really curvy highways. | Ansuzalgiz | 2016-09-24 22:32:23 | 10 | d80vsg2 | I have to say driving on the I495 (Washington DC) tonight the auto-steering had great problems including driving over the yellow lines on the left. This has never happened before and I drive this route daily. | zenjabba | 2016-09-25 02:40:46 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4x2ae1 | 8.0 update? | wasn t it supposed to be released in july? | bishoptheblack | 2016-08-10 14:07:59 | 23 | d6bt26f | Welcome to the world of software development and EST. | 110110 | 2016-08-10 14:13:09 | 21 | Tesla Software Update Analysis |
63c2th | 8.1 AP2 test drive from an AP1 owner s perspective. | Ever since the 100D came out I have been planning to upgrade from a 70D. The only reservation I ve had is AP1 vs AP2 s feature gap dramatically affecting my road trips. I eagerly arranged an AP2 test drive when 8.1 came out. I ve had 17 000 miles in the last 8 months with AP1 and just finished around 150 miles of AP2 driving in a S P90D with firmware 17.11.10 (the car had 17.11.3 but the service center applied the update while we were doing paperwork) **Overall TLDR Parity Rating (compared to AP1 8.0 17.4.14):** * TACC: 95% parity * Highway Autosteer: 90% parity even glimmers of superiority in certain situations * Local Surface Street Autosteer: Less than 25% parity Extended Notes: TACC: For the most part this behaves pretty similarly to AP1 only two comments here: * Had 1 of ~30 overpasses result in an abrupt slowdown hesitation. The car fairly quickly (I d say 50% brake application) slowed 10mph from 75mph and then sped back up. This phenomenon has been documented before. Contrary to the opinion of some I maintain this is not dangerous though highly annoying and startling. While the acceleration feels sudden because it s unexpected overall it did not change the speed of the car enough to present a rear-ending hazard. To compare I found a clear section of freeway at 75mph and jabbed the brake pedal as quickly as I could. The car slowed to 40mph in the blink of an eye with a lot of ABS sounds. * Had one or two situations in the city where TACC inappropriately slowed down reacting to a car in the adjacent lane. As I got closer TACC corrected itself. **Highway Autosteer:** Overall very very usable. I d call it 90% parity. In fact if you ve not experienced AP1 you might feel this is the best lane holding system on the market... * Around sharp curves AP2 does not seem to slow the way that AP1 proactively slows. It also loses holding and goes slightly outside the lane from time to time when navigating sharp curves. Definitely some work to be done here. * Stop and go traffic seemed to be handled quite well in terms of brake acceleration ramping. * Cut-ins were not handled as well as AP1. AP1 is a lot smoother and reactive when a slower car suddenly cuts into your lane. AP2 takes a little while to register and then has to brake a bit more proactively. * I had 1 case where AP2 wanted to follow an exit fork. It was sort of a fluke -- I spent a lot of time in the right lane to torture-test AP2 it passed at least 15 exits without diving for them. * I actually found that with winding + hilly roads AP2 is much faster than AP1 at correcting trajectory right after cresting a hill... AP1 seems to have a half-second deer-in-the-headlights moment before making a steering adjustment when cresting a hill which is absolutely awful for winding mountain roads. AP2 actually handles this situation better than AP1 reacting virtually instantly after cresting a hill. * Tracking of worn-out lane markings is actually remarkably good! * Auto Lane Change is comparable on AP1 vs AP2. The only bug I observed: The moment you cross the lane line AP2 shows a pretty jerky lane change animation on the screen. If you don t keep the turn stalk engaged AP2 is more prone to canceling the lane change because it believes for a split second that you are aborting. * In general though AP2 does not inspire as much confidence as AP1. With AP1 after 17 000 miles I actually feel mildly comfortable to take my eyes off the road for a few seconds to mess with my navigation system. I don t feel as confident right now with AP2 -- I ve seen it do some questionable things where if there s any cars or curves around my eyes are GLUED to the road. **City Autosteer: ** It s almost not worth talking about other than to say it s virtually a joke right now. Don t expect to use Autosteer on surface streets. Now I know what you re yelling already: But the manual has always said Autosteer is designed for highways how dare you use it on city streets .... This is mostly for illustrative comparisons. AP1 actually Autosteers reasonably well on multi-lane city expressways such that I feel comfortable using it as a daily part of my commute albeit with more frequent overrides compared to highways. With AP2 the car goes maybe 15 seconds between attempting to kill me. * 90% of the problem is when going through an intersection and the lane lines disappear AP2 will draw wildly dancing lines and then jerk the steering wheel to follow one of those nonsensical lane lines. If Tesla just solves that problem local auto steer would be a ton more useful. * AP2 does not seem to want to go into blue car following mode. Even when it s coming up with completely BS dancing lane lines it wants to trust those over the car in front. * 35mph is not a very useful speed limit in my experience. The kinds of roads where the posted speed limit is 35 or lower are also the kinds of roads that are too difficult for AP2 to figure out. * There s one glimmer of hope: AP2 seems to recognize curbs grass etc as lane lines on the screen. AP1 has never managed to do that in my experience. **Other Miscellaneous: ** * The improved ultrasonics are in my opinion mostly marketing fluff. I saw almost no difference between AP1 and AP2 blind spot detection. It was able to recognize walls maybe from 1 foot further compared to AP1 but I can t imagine that makes a big difference. IMO improved blind spot detection will come when the side cameras are activated. * The display of other cars on the road is awful compared to AP1. AP1 can continuously display up to 6 cars: 3 lanes and 2 cars per lane. AP2 seems to only show 1 lead car in your lane and sometimes the car in front (less reliably than AP1) and it doesn t really show any cars in other lanes. Once in a while it shows a white car in a nearby lane which is confusing: In AP1 white car means that TACC(or AP speed) is being limited from reaching the set point due to the distance to that car. But in AP2 white cars in adjacent lanes don t seem to have such a meaning: The car doesn t slow down for such cars. * Also randomly white cars blink onto the display without much meaning. * The 1080p backup camera is a noticeable improvement over the 720p one. The screen is a lot sharper and especially in low light there s fewer interlacing artifacts. Overall though as an engineer in Silicon Valley I respect the rate at which AP2 is progressing. Tesla has accomplished a pretty impressive feat replicating the majority of the MobileEye EyeQ3 functionality on a completely new platform in a fraction of the time it took MobileEye to deliver that solution. I feel confident enough in AP2 s continued improvements that this test drive has made me decide to go forward with upgrading my Tesla. But to be perfectly frank: AP2 is not at AP1 parity yet in any category. But at least with 8.1 it s genuinely useful on the freeways. | chillaban | 2017-04-04 04:42:29 | 167 | dfszati | Yea we just took delivery of an AP2 Model X and I used it on a road trip this past weekend. Compared to my AP1 Model S it s definitely not as good but much better than I expected. It really feels like AP1 when it first rolled out. I noticed that AP2 Autopilot loves to accelerate hard and brake hard even in stop and go traffic. If a car leaves the current lane the car accelerates pretty rapidly and then slams the brakes as it approaches the next car. Whereas the AP1 system gradually increases speed to close a gap and brakes earlier and more gently. I also had my Model X switch lanes using auto lane switch but it crossed over the lane and got lost swerving 2 lanes over. I had to manually disengage it and I turned off the feature for the time being as well. I totally agree with you that it doesn t inspire confidence while using it but neither did AP1 autosteer when it first rolled out. I actually used TACC more than autosteer for the trip. Give it a few months and I fully expect the system to be much more refined. On a totally separate note compared to my 2014 Model S it clearly shows that Tesla has come so far in terms of material quality fit and finish. The only issue I have is that my charge port door gets stuck on trim while opening. I was worried that Tesla was still having quality issues but they have certainly made leaps and bounds since 2014. And I didn t know Tesla added a butt vibration for lane departure warning (which feels like going over bumps). | DDotJ | 2017-04-04 05:24:01 | 26 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
63092y | 8.1 HW 2.0 Autopilot Not working all for a lot of owners | I was so happy to get 8.1 on Wednesday. I tried summon and it worked great! Turn everything on for Auto Lane change Steer. No dice. It had work just fine at 35 local and 55 Freeway the day before. It first I thought it just needed to calibrate. I called the service send and they said they were able to reset the system and it started working late Thursday night. Didn t work all day Friday Satuday or Today. I m on long trip from Las Vegas to Wyoming and don t even have Cruse. Looks like there are other having issues too. https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads ap2-8-1-cruise-not-available.88309 #post-2036604 | walkingcrow | 2017-04-02 15:33:32 | 10 | dfqbd09 | A second front camera is now used in the update. It takes some time for the system to calibrate them. Be patient... | Rowzbee | 2017-04-02 15:46:03 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
627tlv | 8.1 Update Model X Specific Notes & Undocumented | Noticed [Fred s article](https: electrek.co 2017 03 29 tesla-8-1-software-update-improves-autopilot-2-autosteer-summon ) this morning and after installing the update for my HW2 model X saw some additional notes. Just one additional page [shown here](http: imgur.com xLNfCzk). I was able to use the increased speed for Autosteer immediately. If there was any calibration it occurred while I was merging and checking my surroundings before looking to see if I had it. (edit: for AP2 folks only) Also an undocumented increase in parity in 8.1 is that we can now [engage TACC or Autosteer from a full stop](http: imgur.com izOwrhC) when there is a lead car. I for one wasn t aware we were even missing this little feature. | billbucket | 2017-03-29 16:47:57 | 39 | dfkdttj | AP1 cars (and now AP2) can engage Autosteer from a standstill when vehicle hold (press in brake pedal deep) is engaged. | Metalbird2014 | 2017-03-29 16:57:07 | 9 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
625u1g | 8.1 update available | Have AP 2.0. Got info at 6:15am EST that new software install available. Installing as we speak. Currently i have 17.9.3! | nordface22 | 2017-03-29 10:34:03 | 266 | dfjyw79 | u FredTesla where s my electrek article?! | mmiller774 | 2017-03-29 11:36:35 | 47 | Tesla Software Update Analysis |
lar526 | 80 miles day- Model 3 SR+ | Hello! I have an 80 mile total daily commute (SoCal HWY 15). I just had an 8kW Tesla solar system installed at my place and I will be able to charge at home each night. Would the M3 SR+ be able to handle this as a highway mule with little stress? If I had my choice I would go with the Model Y LR with the big sexy induction wheels and white interior but the responsible fiscal angel on my shoulder says this is probably overkill for a family of two. Does anyone have an 80ish mile commute with the M3 SR+? Any regrets? | VioletsTurningViolet | 2021-02-02 08:34:17 | 15 | glpms1l | You ll be more than fine | bic_bawss | 2021-02-02 09:11:27 | 27 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4sgy04 | 800 mile road trip. I finally get Autopilot. | TLDR Autopilot is a superb driving aid that I will always use between major cities. Destinations without destination chargers make life difficult. This last weekend my wife and I drove from Milwaukee Wisconsin to just outside of Cincinnati Ohio for the Indiana Spartan Sprint. This was our first real road trip in the Model S. Along the way we got our first real use of the Supercharger (SC) network. I manually picked the SC destinations rather than let the car do it as I wanted to tome longer charges with eating. This worked really well. The 90D has so much range that I really did want to get out and move by the time I reached a charger. Going though Chicago traffic on a Friday afternoon did not help that much. As for Autopilot (AP). I have put most of my first 3 000 miles on my Model S driving in and around Milwaukee and Chicago. This has not really provided the venue for me to feel comfortable to experiment with AP. Driving through the middle of nowhere Indiana however provided an excellent laboratory. I figured if I went off the road there I would only be endangering some corn. So I took the leap from Traffic Aware Cruise Control (TACC) to AP. What I discovered was stupidly simple. AP is just one more step above TACC. I know that sounds as if I am understating AP I don t want to be it is amazing but when I thought of it that way I was able to use AP and trust it. I was worried about how to hold the wheel. Would I inadvertently turn it off without knowing? Would I be able to take control when I wanted to? Would this experiment end with the most expensive thing I have ever purchase that is not a house damage at the side of the road? Luckily my fears were unfounded. I discovered that if I turned on AP and kept my a hand on the wheel I would get the feedback I nweeded to know that AP was taking the curves correctly. If it didn t quite derive the way I wanted by having my hand on the wheel I could override AP turning it off and quickly turn it back on later. I even thought about how the car most likely logged the geolocation and exactly how I handled the lane and traffic situation differently than its current algorithm. Making the system ever so slightly better. By the time I got back to Milwaukee I was a believer. I still won t drive in most city highway traffic with it yet but as soon as the chaos breaks up I will have AP on most of the time now. One last thing about charging. The Indiana side of Cincinnati only had one level 2 charger no where near where my hotel was. So this meant that I had to get enough charge from the Indianapolis SC to get to the hotel the Spartan Sprint dinner and the like and back to the Indianapolis SC. This was the only time I felt any range anxiety as I was rushing to get just enough charge to make the round trip so I could hurry off and get enough sleep not to be a zombie during the Spartan Sprint. I am looking forward to more and more level 2 and 3 chargers dotting the world and I am sure that over time they will and I will seldom experience this concern again. Edit: Spelling and added clarity about the minor range anxiety | yazheirx | 2016-07-12 13:21:43 | 261 | d595w70 | Thanks for the write up! This is exactly how I imagine using AP myself. I ve got a long commute that s mostly interstate and being that it s the open MN IA prairie usually windy. AP would mean no longer having to fight crosswinds. | trevize1138 | 2016-07-12 13:40:37 | 25 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
964a8p | 83 days no VIN RWD Fremont CA | Pretty shocked how my Tesla story is going: \- Line waiter (Sunnyvale @10AM 3 31 16) \- Placed order Blue RWD Aero No AP For Fremont delivery center (5 20) \- ISA IDA initial contact (8 3) \- Paid 20% down on financing with ACH (8 6) \- Delivery cancelled without reason night before other than car is not ready (8 7) \- Called support twice after unable to contact IDA (8 8 morning and late afternoon) \- Support team said they left IDA a message and that IDA will contact me via phone email the same day (8 8) \- Called support again after no IDA contact on prior day (8 9 morning)- Support team said they escalated to the IDA s supervisor and the IDA s supervisor will contact me on (8 9) \- As of this writing (10:40 pm 8 9) No contact from IDA IDA supervisor 83 Days waiting for a RWD car I would be more patient if it were an AWD car as I am fully aware they are starting to ramp. What is even more frustrating is that people in the last few weeks are getting their car with LATER reservations LATER config date and SAME delivery center? As a shareholder + loyal supporter what more do they want from me? | saucow | 2018-08-10 05:46:56 | 12 | e3xob7k | Welcome to the Tesla family. It sucks sometimes but once you get your car the pain will go away. Then again once you get your car it might have defects and end up in the shop for weeks or months. However you ll have a model S hopefully. Then again it s just a car or atleast that s what I tell myself. Sorry to hear about your delays. | dellfanboy | 2018-08-10 05:51:00 | 15 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
b4s0es | 84 year old grandma bought a Tesla | After long talks about my grandmas aging car which now has safety and reliability issues My grandma bought a model 3. She took delivery of a white standard plus 3 today! Her old car was a 1991 Buick riviera. She loved that car to death but was spending around 1k a year in random repairs. She still isn t 100% sold on the Tesla saying it s too different and hard to get used to. I had to change several settings to help her feel more comfortable. Chill mode low regen braking creep on and comfort steering helped a lot. I feel like electric cars and Tesla s in particular are on the right road to permanently replacing gas cars! On a side note she had a 50 amp circuit in her garage that wasn t being used (was for an old electric stove oven) so I ll be installing an outlet there for her to charge as well! https: imgur.com wRkUBwA | Bsilvaftw | 2019-03-24 03:37:00 | 210 | ej8t23b | Is granny running a beverage service out of her garage? | ksc83 | 2019-03-24 03:44:57 | 41 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
30svyz | 85D First impressions | Got my 85D (tech pano standard interior and sound winter package) today. Here s my first impressions: Design and User Experience: - I think the car looks just gorgeous. I now distinguish cars as a Tesla and every other car . Saw the BMW I8 as well and I think they got a bit too adventurous. What stands out for Tesla is the user experience. It was so seamless and simple and that seems to beat all the engineering efforts made by the better cars out there. Driving experience: - Funny story to share here. Took my father in law alongwith me for delivery. Die hard ICE fan - was a car mechanic earlier in his days and a big Electric sceptic. He drove the car and was floored by it. He called it a Playstation on wheels and added that he was lucky to have changed careers since ICE cars dont stand a chance to this. I personally love the driving experience. Autopilot: - Still figuring out the TACC. A bit scared to use it. Tried it once and it was trying to accelerate higher than the speed limit. Not fully convinced yet. Range anxiety: - I got exhausted before exhausting the cars battery. I doubt I will see this on a daily basis. TL DR: Beautiful car. Do yourself a favour and buy it! | Krnshh | 2015-03-30 13:02:56 | 26 | cpvgsec | Check out this video from Bjorn. He shows where you can set the limits on the Cruise Control speeds (above or below) the limit. I think your setting may be set to allow a few mph over -- which is what may have spooked you. https: www.youtube.com watch?v=nOKAFclgM9Y | 110110 | 2015-03-30 13:07:12 | 16 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
2ixuoq | 85D and P85D in Germany have lower range than single | Does anybody know why the Dual Motor variants of the Model S in germany are shown with lesser range than the Dual Motor variants ? In the US Store its different. The German store currently lists 502km range SINGLE for both. And 475km and 440km (P) for the Dual Motor Variants. So 312mi for Single and 295mi and 275mi for Dual. Basically the Single Variant seems off to me. I would assume this should have to do with the testing method being different in Germany but any insights or whether thats an error would be nice. But at least in Germany Tesla wont be able to say you get better mileage with Dual Motors if this is true. | mgoetzke76 | 2014-10-11 12:13:52 | 16 | cl6ieeu | It is because of the NEDC cycle vs. the EPA cycle and the fact that they don t have any official numbers yet on the new models. For the single motor drive 312 miles is the NEDC mileage and 265 is EPA. NEDC favors city driving. Right now they are using numbers that are closer to EPA but once both EPA and NEDC testing is complete on the new models you will have an apples-to-apples comparison. I m curious though if the NEDC mileage will actually be better with dual motors. It will certainly be a lot closer than what you see today but I don t think the dual motors help city driving as much as they do highway driving and there might even be a penalty in city driving. | uselesslogin | 2014-10-11 13:52:00 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
31x0yk | 85D to get major acceleration upgrade via OTA update. | Hey guys in case you haven t noticed the new Tesla site shows the 85D with significantly more horsepower than before (422 vs. 376) and also a much faster 0-60 time (4.4 vs. 5.2). I checked with my local rep and he confirmed that the hardware is the same and that older 85D models will be receiving a software update that will bring them up to the new specs! | teslafolife | 2015-04-08 20:41:36 | 17 | cq5t694 | I posted that exact 0-60 time a month ago here. Where are the doubters now? I expect Reddit golden apologies all around ) | Godspeedingticket | 2015-04-08 21:26:24 | 25 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
42x7ui | 85kWh Battery not offered anymore in Canada. 90kWh only now | Not sure when it happened but you can only order the 70 70D 90D and P90D now. No more RWD 85 (the RWD 90 was removed a couple of weeks ago). https: my.teslamotors.com en_CA models design?redirect=no& redirect=no | llavalle | 2016-01-27 12:18:05 | 98 | czds8bq | I would not at all be surprised to see the 85kWh being dropped completely soon and Tesla might even move silicon anode technology to the 70kWh allowing for a 75kWh base model. That would be an extremely compelling car if they could keep the price the same as the 70kWh. | tomoldbury | 2016-01-27 13:17:18 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
226v0y | 85kWh Owners: Have you ever driven your Model S until you used the last possible electron? If so what was your longest distance? | I understand this doesn t seem like a smart plan but I would like to know if there s any reserve and I m curious to compare. People who have time and money would be able to test this and simply have it towed. | 110110 | 2014-04-04 13:54:08 | 16 | cgjwfp4 | If I recall correctly and the last possible electron were used you d brick the battery and it would no longer charge properly. | tjhenn | 2014-04-04 14:09:04 | 19 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
3wfcxh | 85kw battery retirement? | Interesting if true - info from Trip Chowdhry of Global Equities (sorry for the SI link): Tesla is expected to sunset 85kwh battery by December 31 2015... 70Kwh and 90 Kwh will be the only options available in 2016 with probably 100Kwh option being added sometime in the middle of 2016. http: www.streetinsider.com Analyst+Comments Tesla+%28TSLA%29+Model+X+Delivery+and+Production+Update+from+Global+Equities+Chowdhry 11147278.html | etm33 | 2015-12-11 20:52:27 | 25 | cxvrryw | I think it makes sense. You have a more affordable trim and then a longer range model for those that can afford it. Having 85 and 90 is a bit silly. | JimboLodisC | 2015-12-11 21:13:16 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
d7zk91 | 88k Mile Model S or Chevy Bolt | Hi all I m currently in the process of buying my first EV and I m a little conflicted. I recently treated myself to renting a Volt off of Turo for about a week and I honestly fell in love. I began doing research on the volt and discovered that the bolt exists which is full ev. So now considering my price range I m stuck between a 2017-2018 Bolt and a 2013-2014 Model S. I m a real estate agent so I drive A LOT everyday so I m excited for the savings of an EV to say the least. But anyways what are some thoughts about buying a used Model S? One of the options is a super clean one owner 2014 with 88 000 miles on it how many miles is too many? | theflyingboksh | 2019-09-23 01:18:41 | 17 | f1668l2 | With Model S the newer the better. They have made a huge number of improvements over the years. | realvvk | 2019-09-23 01:52:18 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a1vvg2 | 9 things about the Model 3 that kind of drive me crazy (+ one insight) | There are so many gushing reviews out there on the web and youtube about this car I thought to buck the trend and list the things that kind of drive me crazy about owning a Model 3. I have 5k-ish miles on a dual motor that I picked up in August. Here goes! 1. The words “Waking Up” - I totally understand that there is friction in the system but I expect the Tesla app to be fully functional when I bring it up on my phone. Drives me crazy standing there waiting for it to wake up. 2. The charging cover does not unlock at the same time that the doors unlock - Is this a specific defect for me or is everyone else having this problem? My workaround has been to physically open the rear door. 3. I have the left turn signal issue booked a service appointment 3 months ago and Tesla still doesn t have a fix (for me) - anyone else having this problem? Any advice on incentivizing Tesla to fix? (details: [https: forums.tesla.com forum forums left-turn-signal-issues](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums left-turn-signal-issues)) 4. As an after-effect of being totally accustomed to the Model 3 I tend to just walk out of my other cars and leave the engine running. Lol. 5. I find that the front seats are designed for a decidedly smaller rump anyone else sympathize? 6. Really stretching here but the roof is missing mounts for a rack (the Model S has them). 7. It just rained for the first time here in Socal in forever and it s clear that the windshield wiper algorithms need to be adjusted. 8. The emergency door handles in the front can be an obvious first choice for passengers and I have to frantically prevent them from pulling the handle when they are new to the car - my understanding is that it can possibly damage the door and or break the window? 9. In my area it takes weeks to get a service appointment - in most other dealerships it s a trivial task. So those are top of mind for me. That said my one insight is that I ll **never go back** . Love this car with all my heart :) | Gamehaus | 2018-11-30 20:00:10 | 24 | eat4mwx | The wipers on the Model 3 are pretty much the worst I ve seen in a while... I went on a test drive and it was once of the sunniest days we have had in a while (not a cloud in the sky) and then the wipers start going crazy out of nowhere... Never have seen that in any other car... | ABigFalconRocket | 2018-11-30 20:03:17 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5x6ue3 | 90D finished production a couple weeks ahead of schedule- insurance? | As the title says my 90D is ahead of schedule and is set to deliver in two weeks not April! I currently have Nationwide in downtown Philly. I was quoted at $180 mo. Anyone from the area or another big city who can compare? Seems pretty decent from a review of previous threads on teslas site. TIA | hkpp | 2017-03-02 23:33:55 | 17 | deftihh | Try Safeco. I m about $75 a month. 2013 S 85 in Indianapolis. | clone-phoon | 2017-03-03 00:54:54 | 5 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
76k6hy | 91 or 70 isopropyl alcohol for the seats | Which strength is recommended to clean the synthetic seats? | viper2ko | 2017-10-15 17:07:33 | 15 | doeq46s | Really? Alcohol is suggested to clean the poly leather? Even black? Won t it remove color? | t0mmyr | 2017-10-15 18:56:11 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bn3c4j | 97 Year Old in a Tesla (my grandfather) | Made this vid a couple of years ago mainly for my family to get a laugh. Ended up going viral. Unfortunately my Grandfather passed away a few weeks ago in his 100th year. & #x200B I thought I would share on this feed in his memory. Hope you enjoy it. [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=t6Nw6xp0NfM& t=10s](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=t6Nw6xp0NfM& t=10s) | thewolfanator | 2019-05-10 20:26:44 | 699 | en25ttx | 5.5 million views of a 6 minute video is 63 years. Your grandfather brought 63 additional years of happiness to people in that moment alone. Edit: Thanks for silver! | keco185 | 2019-05-10 22:00:59 | 339 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2zxpn5 | A (not so) Brief Report on My Experience Supercharging..... | I know for those on the west coast or other areas with a lot of available Superchargers this may not be groundbreaking. But I have used them only a few times and this was my first trip where I thought I MIGHT have some range anxiety. And I haven t seen many posts on this recently so here goes. I just returned from a quick trip from DFW area to Oklahoma City. I used the SC in Ardmore on the way up there and back. The conditions were as close to ideal as you could hope for. Temp in the 50 s-60 s dry roads minimal elevation change (about 800 feet difference over the course of 200 miles). From Ardmore to my destination was about 100 miles. So with a max charge I figured I had about 65 miles to spare if I had no charging options in the meantime. My hotel told me they had a place for EV s to charge but they were vague about it. I didn t ask them specifics. Just figured well I probably don t absolutely have to charge when I am there but if I can it would be a bonus . I charged to 100% in Ardmore on the way there. From Ardmore to OKC I kept the cruise control set to 65 MPH occasionally bumping it up to 70 MPH depending on the speed of traffic around me. There were a few occasions where I may have sped up to 75 MPH briefly but the vast majority of the trip I was in the 65-70 range. My goal was to try to get 1:1 ratio on the way up there (one mile driven for one mile rated range). I was able to accomplish that with ease. For almost the entire trip up there I was able to keep my Wh mile in the 300-310 range it even dipped below 300 a few times briefly. Interestingly enough the difference between driving 65 and 70 did NOT seem to affect my Wh mile very much. I had suspected it would but on this particular route with conditions as close to ideal as you could hope for there was negligible difference between 65 and 70 MPH. So I arrived in OKC with about 160 miles rated range. If I ever had any range anxiety it was minimal but I did breathe a bit of a sigh of relief when I got there I suppose---because I knew we wouldn t be driving much while we were there and with 160 miles rated range to drive 100 miles back to Ardmore I had tons of wiggle room and could drive however I wanted on the way back. So I arrive to the hotel and their charger is a standard wall outlet. I was expecting some kind of J-1772 set up. But I didn t ask specifics when I called. It really didn t matter though given how much range I had when I arrived there. I decided to plug in anyway just because it was available at 4 miles charge hour I got about 60 miles additional rated range by the time I left. Driving home I had zero concerns. 200 miles range to drive 100 and then I would use the SC long enough to provide some wiggle room. There weren t a lot of vehicles on the road and those who were well they were moving along pretty fast. So 80-85 MPH in stretches was my speed. My Wh mile stayed in the 360-370 range for most of the return trip which worked out to about 1.2-1.3 rated range: 1 mile driven. A couple of other interesting things: 1) I had people pull up to the SC station in an ICE on both ends of the trip just to chat with me and learn about the car. There are now three SC s in Oklahoma but probably not many people who live there and own one. It was truly a novelty to them and I enjoyed teaching them a bit about the car as I always do when someone is unfamiliar. 2) Same thing with the valet at my hotel. He had never seen one. I showed him how it plugs in in case he has customers in the future who drive one. 3) There was one Tesla owner at the SC during my trip and he was in a P85D. We chatted for a bit and when I was leaving he told me he could not disconnect the SC from his car. I have read about this happening in a few isolated instances in other forums. I am not sure if the issue is with the car or the SC but I suspect it is the car because one forum discussion an owner was having the same issue with his home charger. This guy was a very knowledgeable owner had tried everything imaginable including rebooting the vehicle but it would not disconnect. I felt bad for him. Tesla was sending someone out there but he was in for a bit of a wait. I think this is an exceedingly rare occurrence. All in all a good trip. | tturedditor | 2015-03-22 20:16:00 | 60 | cpn8tll | Good report and awesome that you were able to get 1:1 on the rated range. Now that it s warming up around here I am hoping I get something close to that! A few comments: I use PlugShare for finding hotel charging. If a hotel doesn t show up there I wouldn t expect much. I couldn t disconnect my P85D at the Hooksett Northbound SC. Thought I tried everything... wife then asks if I tried holding down the button on the SC cable which I hadn t which unlocked the cable. At all other chargers I just had to push the button and wait for the light to change from green to white. Never had to hold it down. I wonder if that might have worked for the poor guy you met. | EatMoarToads | 2015-03-22 20:33:04 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4sgyhy | A 60kWh option will be introduced for the Model X by tonight | It will be a 60D Model X. Base price will be $74 000 and have a 200 mile range. Same performance as a 75D and it will still be an $8 500 firmware upgrade at delivery or $9 000 afterwards. No one seemed to believe me last time so I made a new throwaway https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 4n2xvk tesla_will_release_a_60kwh_battery_option_on | ElonsVelvetJacket | 2016-07-12 13:25:11 | 36 | d595mnc | Youd have more credibility if youd be using your other throwaway since it was already proven right. Just saying. | FredTesla | 2016-07-12 13:32:42 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ewqjyb | A Better Bug Reporting Method | What are the channels for bug reporting at the moment? The voice command “Bug Report” method seems to have the advantage of giving the Tesla team a snapshot of the car s current state but it s limited with the info the actual driver can provide. It would be nice if there were some sort of forum or channel that drivers could report bugs in a more thorough manner. They could provide however much explanation would be necessary as well as potential screenshots. Perhaps there could be some manner of “marking” a snapshot in the car that you can then refer back to it in your post and the Tesla team could see that car s state at that time. Doing this process through the mobile app would encourage even further integration. What do you guys think? | MoistFold | 2020-01-31 16:05:26 | 26 | fg3xr24 | So I too have struggled with this. I had a Tesla employee tell me that when you do the bug report on your car (screenshot or through voice) that it is only pulled if you have service look at it. It doesn t go straight to the Tesla devs unless they are looking for certain issues. They did tell me that Twitter was the best way to get your feedback to Tesla directly and bug report is if you want service to look at a specific example. | bacony16 | 2020-01-31 17:32:00 | 11 | Tesla companion app features |
nir4ku | A Better Route Planner Supercharging Cost Incorrect? | I was charting out a route and I noticed that the Supercharging costs on ABRP seem to be way off but I can t figure out why. In my area (New England) almost all the Superchargers are 25 - 29 cents per kWh (I am going from memory so please correct me if this is wildly incorrect.) When I use ABRP it says I should stop at the East Greenwich RI Supercharger to charge to 48% from 15% for 10 min adding 23.7 kWh costing $2.70. \~24 kWh should be $6.96 right? Is ABRP stuck on some timed charging for this calculation? (Model Y LR AWD 298 Wh mi reference consumption no other ABRP customizations) | ffejie | 2021-05-22 20:18:20 | 15 | gz3b5bf | Are you perhaps mixing per minute pricing with per kWh pricing? | coolmatty | 2021-05-22 20:33:32 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6sydqs | A Better US EV Tax Credit | The way the EV tax credit is structured the ultimate result is that it s going to cause significant short term pain to the companies that cared to push the technology forward. As it is now Tesla will eventually be selling $35k Model 3s up against EV models at the same price less the tax credit from Big Auto competitors. It s going to be hard for buyers to justify the Tesla when the alternative is $7 500 cheaper. Nothing like saying hey thanks for leading the industry forward but now we re going to put you at a severe disadvantage for 2 years. They US should have done a hybrid system where each manufacturer gets 50 000 credits tied to their cars and then there is a floating pool of 5-10m full credits that apply to any car from any manufacturer once the manufacturer specific-credits are used up. That way there s an incentive for other automakers to hurry forward EV development and production before Tesla Nissan and GM buyers use up all the pool credits. | NoVA_traveler | 2017-08-11 02:51:52 | 34 | dlgk58q | I prefer the Chinese system. Car dealers get fined for failing to sell a rising percentage of EVs. | badcatdog | 2017-08-11 03:39:01 | 40 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
6rneq0 | A Better route planner updated for both versions of Model 3 | https: abetterrouteplanner.com Just went on to look at how I would have completed today s trip and went to change it from the S85 it was configured to. Both models of the Model 3 are present so if you are curious about range or which one might suit you better have a look. | Caracul | 2017-08-04 20:50:41 | 57 | dl6ei70 | The planner has me stopping in Folsom on my way from the San Jose area to South Lake Tahoe even with the Model 3 LR. I ll probably go 72-75 mph on the freeway. Total distance is 220 miles. Is this expected? It seems odd to me that a car rated at 310 miles (albeit under ideal conditions) can t make a 220 mile trip without stopping to charge. If I need to stop either way I will likely get the standard Model 3 since this is the only long distance drive I usually do. Thoughts? | kittyburritoeater | 2017-08-04 21:43:01 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
3myq3o | A Bio Weapon Defense Mode should be activated automatically | When the cameras detect VW logo ahead | slev7n | 2015-09-30 13:34:56 | 237 | cvj8yc4 | Hahahaha In all seriousness tho I was shocked to learn that some of the VWs were creating FORTY TIMES the allowable EPA limit of pollution (NOx). Fucking Christ. | JeSuisUnAnanasYo | 2015-09-30 13:39:12 | 81 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
hu07ns | A C stops after ~1hour - 2020 X LR | Our ‘20 MX just started this odd behavior where after 30-60 minutes of driving the Climate control will stop cooling the cabin. Air coming out is still cold but there s almost no flow. If we switch to manual and increase the fan we can hear it blowing but still no increase in airflow. Lowering the temp setting doesn t help. Very annoying in summer. NB this happens even in moderate outdoor temps (80f). Any idea? | nyima-tharchen | 2020-07-19 13:07:21 | 21 | fyk091p | Icing on the evaporator probably. | fosterdad2017 | 2020-07-19 13:13:04 | 19 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
5chs3q | A Canadian s thought on the Trump win and Tesla (there is some hope!) | I think it s fair to say the last couple of days are a bit depressing for many folks on this subreddit. However after thinking about the Trump implication on the automobile & energy sector I actually think it will provide a huge tailwind for TSLA and accelerate its long term growth. Here are a few points of my reasoning. 1) SCTY. Without the merger it is hard to see it succeed by itself with cheap natural gas and coal in addition local utilities meddling with their net metering policy. One small state Nevada changed its net metering policy and cause the SCTY stock to drop by 2 3rd. The uncertainty of a standalone SCTY is too high for it to succeed brilliantly. Thanks to the merger Tesla is now by far the biggest All-in-One clean energy player on this planet led by someone many viewed as a genuine person who tries to do the right thing for humanity not to make a profit himself. Remember at the beginning of Avengers when Tony Stark said he was the only player in town for clean energy. Yap that s Tesla. By this metric alone Tesla ecosystem will be the Apple and Google of next decade. The Trump win will actually accelerate it s growth. See my second point. 2) Fear. It is counterintuitive but gun stocks drop significantly after the Trump win. Why? Americans in the past 8 years have been buying guns like crazy because many believed Obama and Clinton are going to repel the Second Amendment and take away their guns. Year after year gun manufacturers were enjoying record profits. Now Trump wins this unfounded fear will subside. And guess what gun sales will likely drop and that s bad for gun manufacturers. The same will happen with Tesla products. Keep in mind most Americans voted for Clinton and most believed in manmade climate change. Now the majority see a government that has a climate denier heading the EPA gutting Clean Air and Clean Water act. All this will prompt more people taking things into their own hands. I was just going to buy a Model 3 but now I will get a power wall as well as solar panels. Yes that will hurt my pocketbook but it s the moment that one realizes things are in jeopardy that one starts taking action. The more people take action into their own hand and search for renewables the better Tesla will do. You can t rely on government for example a Clinton win would continue my own complacency. 3) Lower requirement on vehicle efficiency. GM Ford and Dodge are probably excited the tougher requirement will be dropped. Yes it is great news to them in the short term but in the long term it is death spell. Without government requirement compounded with low gas price (for now) means there is no incentive to improve efficiency let alone invest in electric trucks or SUV. Wait until 2022 when Tesla Truck and Model Y become widely available. The big 3 rely most of their profits on gas guzzlers. Suddenly their products will be wildly uncompetitive not that different from Blackberry in 2007. Tesla SUV and Truck will be the one two punch that destroy any carmakers who rely solely on gas guzzlers when the public realize EV are simply better. No Blackberry didn t die right away. In fact it enjoyed record profits and record phone sales a couple years after iPhone and Android were introduced. But then the fall came swiftly and RIM never recovered. 4) Peter Thiel. Yes. Peter Thiel. Despite their different ideology both he and Elon Musk believe in American Exceptionalism. In addition Thiel invested significantly to SpaceX after the 3rd straight Falcon 1 blew up way back in 2008. SpaceX was on its way to bankruptcy had the 4th launch failed. That showed the amount of respect and confidence Peter Thiel has for Elon. If we are lucky Peter Thiel will be the science technology adviser instead an idiot. Unfortunately it is likely NASA s earth science funding will be dramatically cut (sad!) but its outer space exploration may get the windfall. That is great for SpaceX and that is undoubtedly good for Tesla. More contracts to SpaceX means Tesla can leverage it for more funding. In addition Peter Thiel s libertarian belief may reduce regulation meaning full Autonomous driving could arrive sooner. Another plus for Tesla autopilot that s way ahead of the competition. 5) Repatriation of overseas cash hoarded by US companies. One of the few good policy under Trump s platform is the one time repatriation tax of 10%. Apple has over 200 billion Microsoft over 100 billion and Google $50 billion cash overseas. Currently if they bring the money back it s subjected to 35% tax rate. Tech companies are amongst the most active participants in promoting sustainability and renewable energy. If they money flows back to US let s hope some of those money will be used on renewables and other environmentally initiatives. Who doesn t want Google to have minority stake in Tesla? That d my thoughts for now. They are overly simplified and are probably inaccurate. There is no doubt Trump and the Republican policies are disastrous to the environment and renewables. However if you truly care about climate change there are things you can do to make a difference. And the Trump win at least to me means it s time to take things seriously. | kenypowa | 2016-11-11 23:59:13 | 54 | d9wqbkh | Nice assessment! | falooda1 | 2016-11-12 02:46:41 | 13 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
ef851v | A Christmas Gift idea for Tesla - give everyone free Acceleration Boost for Christmas Day & watch the take rate soar! | Hypothesis - I ll bet most folks have never experienced sub-four second acceleration and don t understand how big of a difference it is from the mid-4 s. Half a second doesn t sound like much but the difference in feel is actually huge. It s hard to imagine unless you ve experienced it yourself. Solution - give everyone a Christmas gift! Making Acceleration Boost free for a day costs Tesla next to nothing but the upshot could be tens of millions in extra cash before year end and huge PR. At the very least Elon should make a “first time free” button and put it on the screen - push it for one free boost to try! | MarshallEverest | 2019-12-24 22:32:25 | 15 | fbyv0bq | 100% if I had a chance to demo acceleration boost once in my car I d buy it the second it was taken away from me. But for now I m settling for blissful ignorance. Can t miss a feature if I don t know I love it right? | d1dntexpectthat | 2019-12-24 22:37:46 | 40 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
9w1pgg | A Facebook page is ripping off articles from Electrek and Teslarati - please help report them | Not sure if this is the right way to go about this but here goes. A Facebook page is sharing links to articles which are word for word copy and pasted from Electrek or Teslarati often included poorly formatted embedded twitter links and copies of text ads. They are hosted at a domain teslamodel.club with no legitimate about or contact info. Obviously I don t want to give them any more clicks but the Facebook page in question is: https: www.facebook.com TeslaModel3. Obviously they got a lot of likes (77k) because of their name being Tesla Model 3 and therefore appearing in searches. The Electrek (ping u FredTesla) and Teslarati team do a great job and it s not fair that this low-effort click harvesting page rips them off. Please help report their posts. (The closest category FB offers is spam but there is no free text to describe the exact issue). If anyone knows a better way of dealing with this please say so! | ChuqTas | 2018-11-11 06:29:40 | 84 | e9gwmi2 | Only thing you can do is report the facebook page and let electrk and teslarati know | ferrarienz00 | 2018-11-11 06:45:30 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
53f3i6 | A Few Inventory Model S P100D are available now. | Don t know why these are not listed on the Full List of Inventory Cars. But come up in Design Studio as a Suggestion. [Silver Metallic P100D](https: www.tesla.com new 5yjsa1e42gf159721) [Midnight Silver Metallic P100D](https: www.tesla.com new 5yjsa1e41gf159984) [Deep Blue Metallic P100D](https: www.tesla.com new 5yjsa1e48gf159822) [Solid White P100D](https: www.tesla.com new 5yjsa1e43gf159985) | bravokiller5 | 2016-09-19 00:43:46 | 41 | d7sm19x | Lease payment is more than my mortgage. Nuts. | 110110 | 2016-09-19 02:05:12 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
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