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dbczan | A Few Issues with Spotify - | Super nice having Spotify in the car now. But I notice that sometimes the music won t actually play. It will show a “loading circle” over the play button and the current time of the music (say if you re 20 seconds into a 3 minute song) will display and progress but it will not play music. I ve also noticed that sometimes songs in a playlist will not auto-play the subsequent song. Instead it will stop after the current song or repeat the current song if you have repeat set to on. Both of these seem to be fixed by resetting the MCU but it s not really worth using it given how often I would need to be resetting the MCU. Just curious: anyone else having these issues or anything similar? Edited for typos. | TyleAnde | 2019-09-30 15:11:39 | 71 | f20d7vt | I found an easier way to fix this issue: when you get the loading circle and it won t play jump over to Streaming (slacker) and play something for a few seconds then go back to Spotify and try the same song again it has worked for me. Also I learned that I can tap the grey text at the top with the name of the current playlist to bring that playlist back up without searching for it :) | carleeno | 2019-09-30 15:44:49 | 32 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
te0afr | A Great Breakdown of the 10.11 FSD Notes and What They Mean | Here s a great breakdown of the recent complex notes about the new FSD 10.11 released [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=cJxiYubdljo](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=cJxiYubdljo) | Muzzman1 | 2022-03-14 15:38:26 | 15 | i0mnwbi | I just can t with that thumbnail though. | -toggie- | 2022-03-14 15:50:14 | 40 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
goav3g | A List of What I think Battery Investor Day Will Include | Hey Everyone! Over 3-4 years of watching YouTube videos reading things here on Reddit and articles on the internet. I decided to put down on a list what I think could come out of battery investor day. (More like a couple days it sounds like now) This is only a list that I created using my memory for the past 20 mins. Please let me know what you think. This wouldn t just be a game changer it would be another world changer. Enjoy! & #x200B Battery Tech: \- Million mile battery \- 700+ miles per charge for smaller vehicles \- 4000+ cycles for life of battery (in a car could be used for grid storage after) \- Tabless battery cell design \- Possibly higher voltage per cell \- Different crystal structure inside battery cells \- Different chemical structure inside battery cells \- Battery pack will be smaller and lighter \- Price per KWh is less than $100 personally hoping for $60 to absolutely crush ICE car prices \- Faster to charge from 0%-80% due to battery allowing faster charge rates at higher percentages \- Stays cooler for longer periods of rough driving and or fast charging \- Possibly faster than 250kW charge rate for new batteries only (maybe 300kW to match Porsche) & #x200B Other items for Tesla to possibly speak about: \- Vehicle to grid options \- Faster charging at home \- Whole home backup options changes to Powerwall v2 (larger size faster charge rates ect) \- Vehicle to vehicle power sharing options \- Getting to 1TWh battery production \- New factory in Texas or Oklahoma \- Update on GigaBerlin and or GigaShanghi \- Update about leaving California \- Solar production changes \- Cybertruck and or Semi news (such as battery sizes and charge times est of course) \- News about a possible Supercharger v4 or Semi supercharging capabilities \- Update on Neural Net windshield wiper Neural Net and how Autopilot and FSD are doing \- Update on insurance maybe open it up to more states \- Model X and S refresh \- Possibly something about battery recycling \- Possibly something about the mining business | crvgolfer71 | 2020-05-22 02:32:41 | 11 | frerq8w | 700+ mile battery might be a stretch but I can see atleast 400 for 3 Y and 500 for S X. | Justaguy2131 | 2020-05-22 02:42:11 | 19 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
d3p05f | A Little Morning Fun | I live in an apartment building in North East NJ. There are a handful of Teslas in the parking lot. One of my buddies in the building has a Corvette (not sure what year or what edition ). It s louder than normal and has vents and stuff. It seems suped up . This morning we exited the parking lot together. To my surprise we ended up being the fist people in our respective lanes at the red light. I ALWAYS drive in Chill Mode. And I wasn t sure if we were going to go for it. It was 8AM busy-ish local highway etc. Light turn green. He TAKES OFF! In a tire spinning exhaust roaring manner. My reaction was delayed but I pinned it too and felt handicapped by Chill Mode. SOMEHOW we ended up being first again at the very next light less than a mile down the road. We rolled our windows down and were obviously giggling like kids. I did not know we were gonna do that! . To which he replied Oh we did it and we re doing it again . OK!!! I m sure your car is faster than mine 50-100 but I ll be damned if I lose a 0-60! \*Turns chill mode off\* You all know what happened. Served some humble pie to my Corvette friend on a 0-75mph. Can t wait to see him in the hallway of our building again. He s a good sport and I think we both love our cars equally. & #x200B Anyway Forgot to turn Chill Mode back on after I grabbed my Wawa coffee.. Almost spilled it pulling out the lot haha. & #x200B Have a good weekend yall!!! & #x200B Oh BTW - My wife and I leave for work at the same time in the same direction. She called me after the second drag and gave me a good yell. LOL. But ended the call with ... but Good job She s a keeper. | SunShak | 2019-09-13 13:07:30 | 215 | f045wcr | Haha love that the wife called to keep you in check. I can totally relate 👍 | Papavatsky | 2019-09-13 13:13:27 | 67 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
51pheg | A Little Reminder and a bit of a scare | Do not leave your keyfob and cell phone (and sleeping child) in the car. After a long evening of driving I arrive home and park my Tesla S in the garage. I have my fob in the little consul under the touchscreen and my phone is in the cupholder. Oh and my 2 year old is sound asleep buckled into his carseat. I decide to let him sleep while I take the trash and recycling bins out to the curb and pick up the package on the front doorstep. These tasks take me no more than 2-3 minutes tops. I have shut the doors to the car so my son doesn t wake up with the noise from the bins. So now I go to get him out and put him to bed. But the doors won t open the trunk won t open my phone is inside and my other fob is 2k miles away with wife who is on a business trip. Well this is not good. Luckily I was in my garage so I pushed the charge port open and stuck in the cable this woke the car up and opened the handles. In another situation I would be replacing a window (say if it was during the day today 90+ out and I had no one around to borrow a phone to make a call to Tesla). Lesson learned though never letting the fob get out of my pocket into the car again. Seems like there should be a better solution for this issue. **Update 1:** I put the keyfob in today by itself in 1 5 and 10 minute intervals. The car opened after each time with the door handles retracting in their usual 45 seconds or so. Walking up to retracted handles pushing them and then opening the car this is what I expected to happen last night. I am currently running a second set of tests with my phone next to the fob as my best guess is that the phone may interfere with the fob making the car think I have *walked away* (with the fob). **Update 2:** Tried recreating the possible cell phone interference but no success yet. I think that the car s autolock feature was engaged when my cell phone which was sitting about 2 feet away from the fob blocked the fob signal either that or some other random combination of events that occur rarely but often enough that others have had the same problem: https: forums.tesla.com forum forums car-locked-fob-inside-what-do-you-do The strange part about last night is when I put the charge cable in (and pressed the UMC button) the door handles extended immediately as if the charger woke the fob up and I had approached the car with the fob. Usually the car stays locked in this scenario such as when I charge the car while leaving the fob in the house (car locked and stays that way). | GlassK | 2016-09-08 04:02:47 | 30 | d7dtohf | Can t you login from some other Android iOS device or even from a laptop with VisibleTesla app and unlock from there? | dzedaj | 2016-09-08 04:44:07 | 28 | Tesla phone key functionality |
8633re | A Model 3 Review for Corolla Owners | **TL DR:** [Here s a link to my review](https: futurespeak.fm episodes 9). More direct links: [Overcast](https: overcast.fm +LBpoNX7dI) [Pocket Casts](http: pca.st f1Ks) [iTunes](https: itunes.apple.com us podcast 9-a-model-3-review-for-corolla-owners id1316369668?i=1000407031902& mt=2) **Q:** What is the style of this review? **A:** Told as a story over two days of a Turo rental features of the Model 3 are discussed as I recount my time driving around LA (Day 1) and staying in Santa Barbara (Day 2). **Q:** Who is this review for? **A:** Not necessarily for those of us who gobbled up last year s articles about the rumored mixture of aluminum to steel in the Model 3 s frame. Through each step of the review I attempt to not only talk about the car s features but also explain their utility (to those unfamiliar with Tesla) and potential. I use analogy metaphor and relevant experiences to draw comparisons that are accessible for the average listener. So while **you** may not learn anything new over the course of this episode it may be perfect for that friend relative coworker who is curious about Tesla but hasn t been exposed much to the Model 3 beyond what you ve shared with them. **TS WR (Too Short Wanna Read)** On March 31 2016 I stood in line for 3.5 hours to reserve a Model 3 sight unseen. And in early February of this year I finally got the chance to experience the car after renting it on Turo. I spent 48 hours with the car for two reasons: **1.)** To test drive the car before making the biggest purchase of my adult life. **2.)** To review the car for my technology podcast [Futurespeak](https: futurespeak.fm ). Most recently I did [an episode about the Boring Company s presentation to the Culver City Council](https: futurespeak.fm episodes 8) which I posted about here. I usually release an episode every 10 days or so but my Model 3 review took more than five weeks. Why? Because I ve read watched listened to nearly every Model 3 review in existence. So when it finally came time to write my review for Tesla s entry into the affordable car market I froze. I d spent so much time on r teslamotors TMC and M3OC I wasn t sure what I could add to the conversation that all of you hadn t already heard. It wasn t until a couple weeks after my Turo experience that I remembered that these forums aren t representative of the wider public and that while my show may contain *some* overlap with the Tesla faithful the show largely skews towards a broader audience. It was then that I found my “angle. Hence the title: A Model 3 Review for Corolla Owners. I loved the 70-minute in-depth look at the Model 3 that M3OC did and it definitely helped me bide my time as I waited for my reservation to turn into an invitation. But a lot of the information shared in videos like these don t reflect how I actually experience a car. So many of the reviews of the Model 3 grind into such fine grain detail that they sometimes feel like a lot of analyzing the moss on trees when a lot of folks out there (not us) may simply want a helicopter flyby of the forest. So this review isn t the kind to clinically discuss the dimensions of the frunk. I was more interested in seeing if my airline carry-on bag would fit. (Spoiler: it does.) As a sort of preview I ve included the show notes - sans hyperlinks - below. (This does *not* reflect the entire episode. I only include topics in show notes that justify links.) This community has done SO much for me over the last two years. I sincerely hope you enjoy this review. ---------- * Turo: Gateway to the Model 3 * Ken s Model 3 * Not That Kind of Review * Some Great Model 3 Reviews: * Doug DeMurro: Here s Why the Tesla Model 3 Is the Coolest Car of 2017 * The Drive: Tesla Model 3: The First Serious Review * MKBHD: Driving a Tesla Model 3! * Engadget: Tesla Model 3 review: the fast and infuriating * Larry Benjamin: Tesla Model 3 Review after 3 weeks * Digital Trends: Tesla Model 3 Review * One App One Card One Vent * Electrek: Tesla Model 3 s unique HVAC system explained in new patent * A Firm Ride and the BMW i3 * Tesla Model 3 vs Nissan Leaf - Smooth Ride Test * A Single 15-Inch Display * 2007 iPhone Presentation: Steve Jobs explains the limitations of fixed interfaces * 2014 Apple Watch Presentation: Way too much stuff for your wrist * At-Home Charging * Tesla: Home Charging Installation * The Sound of Music * Wikipedia: I know it when I see it * Smartphone Integration or Lack Thereof * 2011 Model S Beta Reveal: Elon discusses third-party app integration * Destination Charging * Tesla: Charge Upon Arrival * Regenerative Braking * Explain that Stuff (Chris Woodford): Regenerative Brakes * Supercharging * Tesla: Charge on the Road * Wikipedia: Supercharger technology * Final Thoughts (TL DL) * Engadget: Tesla wants to install charging stations at your office * Tesla: Become a Charging Partner * Futurespeak s First Interview! * Stacey Higginbotham * Internet of Things Podcast | FUTURESPEAKshow | 2018-03-21 15:46:18 | 39 | dw1yrbg | First of all thank you so much for the TL WR. I appreciate the thought that went into finding an original perspective for this review rather than just repeating the same story over and over (though it is a story may of us are happy to consume time and again!). Can t wait to watch the whole thing... | _rdaneel_ | 2018-03-21 15:58:29 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2smsv0 | A New Subreddit Rule | Hi everyone We are implementing some new rules to try to improve the sub and keep it a little more Tesla related. Nothing is set in stone and we are open to discussion but here we go: 1. **Posts must be about Tesla.** It might sounds obvious but we have been very complaisant about that and lately it shows. Starting now posts solely about other electric cars or only mentioning Tesla for a vague comparison will be removed. If you enjoy learning about and discussing other EVs like most of us do r electricvehicles would be a more appropriate place for these posts. Some other EVs have their own sub like r leaf r volt or r BMWi3 as well as some other manufacturers like r Nissan. Same goes for posts about Elon Musk and his other ventures without a direct link to Tesla Motors. Posts about SpaceX are surely welcome in r SpaceX and same for SolarCity in r SolarCity. Also r hyperloop is a thing and everything else would probably work in r elonmusk. Now we are not saying you can t talk and comment about other EVs or other Musk companies but the focus needs to be the direct link to Tesla. For example we will not accept a post about a fuel cell car that mentions “Elon Musk CEO of Tesla Motors said that fuel cells are dumb” or any iteration of these kind of articles. On the other hand if you want to make a post comparing or discussing the footprint of the Mirai vs the Model S you are welcome to post. Another example would be a post about the Hyperloop. If it simply mentions that Musk is CEO of Tesla Motors in the post or article it will be removed but if you want to discuss the possibilities of Tesla s involvement in a project like the Hyperloop then you are more than welcome to post. 2. My second point is not as much a rule as it is a suggestion because we will certainly **not** start removing posts that are negative toward Tesla but when posting something that could easily be interpreted as “clickbait” or an obvious “bashing” on Tesla it would be preferable to use a text post and post the link there with an explanation. I m talking about when you read an article bashing Tesla for whatever reason and you want r teslamotors to discuss it or maybe help you with a rebuttal. If you simply post the link chances are it will get downvoted to oblivion and discussions about the arguments of the author will be minimal. A text post would send less traffic to the source (which are often clickbait) and an explanation as to why you are posting the article will go a long way to create better conversations. We are open to suggestions. Cheers Fred | FredTesla | 2015-01-16 15:04:32 | 69 | cnr835d | u FredTeslsa -- love you man but can I make a suggestion regarding implementation of this rule? Take a few weeks (2 or 3) and tag links that violate Rule 1 with a warning about Tesla Relevancy or something along those lines -- the way r Politics will tag a misleading title or r buddhism tags things with Meta Question Opinion Sutra Article Misc. I m sure there s other examples of these kinds of tags mods put on titles in other subs. I suspect that this process is no more time consuming than deleting links? That way I think it would let us as a community assess whether removal is warranted or not. I subscribe to r electricvehicles but when I m in a hurry I only check this sub. I d hate to miss possible news because I m looking only in my preferred sub. I just went back to hot on the page and there s the link re: Hyperloop with 326 votes and little further down the article about Musk donating $10 million to fight AI with 10 votes. If you look at top from his week the WaPo article about Tesla Killers has 254 votes but specifically mentions Tesla so probably is okay under these new rules. But the link to the Bolt has 192 votes and according to this policy belongs in r electricvehicles. Clearly those are the kinds of posts you have in mind to get rid of but I feel like the voting process does an okay job at keeping things relevant. I say all this because if it weren t for r teslamotors I wouldn t have heard about the hyperloop until I got an e-mail with photos and videos after my buddy got back from Austin late last night. I don t care to subscribe to r SpaceX r elonmusk or r solarcity. But if something is broadly interesting to r teslamotors I d like to see it here. | stevejust | 2015-01-16 20:05:20 | 17 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
995s0h | A Note from your Newest Moderator | As the newest mod in r TeslaMotors now that I ve gotten a feel for how things work around here and seen first-hand some of the things the mod team deals with I feel that there are some things I need to get off my chest. **First please remember that this is a fan sub.** It was created by people who love Tesla s products and Tesla s vision. It should come as no surprise that the people here are enthusiastic about the brand and the company. I reviewed other car manufacturer subs to see how they balance things and I found more posts critical of Tesla in r Teslamotors than I found critical of BMW in r BMW or critical of Ford in r Ford. It wasn t even close. This has always been a sub by and for fans of Tesla. Why do people act surprised when the people on this sub tend to see the rainbow instead of the rain when Tesla news comes out? Participation here is optional and we all knew what kind of sub we were getting into when we subscribed. **Second the Anti-Evangelists.** There s a certain breed of subscriber that causes more havok for the mods than any other. These are very active users and they *say* they want Tesla to succeed but if you read the content of their posts you ll find that they don t actually have *anything* good to say about anyone or anything. If you are in hour 9 of a 12-hour Here s why Tesla sucks marathon please remember to keep it civil. I m not here to censor you but insults and name-calling have no place here. You might think that you re enlightening the benighted with your wisdom but you re coming off as the bad guy who s just here to be nasty about something someone else cares about. If you really need to get this out of your system I recommend finding an NFL subreddit and telling people why their favorite team sucks. **Third I have to enforce the rules.** I don t want to delete your posts or your comments. It wastes my time and it annoys you. Nobody wins when I have to click Delete. When the sub was smaller it was easy to maintain some order but times have changed. I won t recount the rules here but here are a few tips that will help you keep your posts from being removed for rule violations: * If your post is essentially I saw a Tesla! or Here s a picture of a Tesla! please post it in the Daily Discussion thread in r TeslaLounge or r TeslaPorn. There are so many Tesla vehicles on the road today that we get hundreds of Tesla sightings posted and they drown out legitimate discussion. One exception to this rule is Roadsters which are always welcome. The other exception is for truly unique amazing photos because the mods are fans too. Maybe in the future when there isn t so much Tesla news flying around we can be more liberal with these kinds of posts but for now the rule stands. * If your post is essentially I just got my Tesla! congratulations! If you want to talk about your delivery experience build quality or what you think of the vehicle please post it in the Daily Discussion thread or in r TeslaLounge. You are welcome to express your opinion and share your experiences good or bad however with Tesla delivering so many cars every day we can no longer give a separate thread to every delivery. This is another one we might be able to be more liberal about in the future when there s less news in the wild and things have calmed down. * If your post is essentially I went to a Supercharger! and you want to post a photo of it please post it in r TeslaLounge r Superchargers or r TeslaPorn. With over 10 000 supercharger plugs available worldwide we simply can t have a separate thread posted for each one. We would make an exception for brand new supercharger locations if you make a nice post out of it telling us what s nearby and where it s located instead of just posting a photo. We know what supercharger stalls look like. * If your post is essentially I went on a road trip please post that to the Daily Discussion Megathread or r TeslaLounge. With vehicles in the hundreds of thousands and billions of autopilot miles driven we can no longer host a separate thread for each road trip one of our subscribers makes no matter how awesome it was. * If your post is essentially I m not sure what to order I have questions about delivery I have a question about tax credits I have a question about financing or anything at all about a VIN please post it in the Question and Answer Megathread but be sure to use the search function first. There are very few questions that have not already been answered exhaustively. * If your post is essentially My car is broken please contact Tesla. We d like to help but we can t. If you re looking for more information about a particular problem ask questions that we can answer otherwise the first reply to your post will be Have you contacted Tesla? Technically these should also go to the discussion megathreads. **Fourth Dismissive Language.** These are labels the people apply to arguments so they can dismiss the argument out of hand instead of addressing it on its merits. Among these are FUD Short Fanboi Cult and others. While using this kind of language isn t expressly forbidden it s often used rudely and aggressively to silence someone instead of engaging them in a meaningful discussion. People often use it to suppress debate. If someone is spreading lies prove them wrong. Replying with Nice FUD Short! or Here comes the fanboi circlejerk proves nothing except your inability to form a counter-argument. **Finally let me remind you that I m a human too.** I have good days and bad days and I definitely get busy distracted or frustrated. I like it here. I ve met some really interesting people through this sub. Some of you I d even call friends. Tesla says that they are on a mission to accelerate sustainable transportation to help make the world a better less-polluted place. While we can t necessarily do that for planet Earth all by ourselves we can at least make this subreddit a better less-polluted place. I look forward to working with all of you. Respectfully * MajesticJG | majesticjg | 2018-08-21 18:40:27 | 174 | e4l54ub | I think you ve just ruled out everything ever talked about here. :) | __________z_________ | 2018-08-21 18:56:41 | 53 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
d85a1o | A Pilot s Thoughts on Tesla s Autopilot | After months of hemming and hawing on whether or not I should sell my existing ride to get a Tesla I finally made the leap to the modern era. I purchased a P3D- and while I didn t need FSD for my daily commute I sprung for the option for the sake of being a part of the Tesla autonomy experience. To christen the vehicle we decided to take it on a family road trip to the mountains crossing through a few cities on the way. While driving I noticed many similarities to air travel and figured it would be fun to make some comparisons here for those who were interested. More specifically I d like to discuss autopilot methods human factors and traffic deconfliction. Autopilot uses modes that guide a modern aircraft along lateral (LNAV) and vertical (VNAV) navigation paths defined by either ground based navigation aids or Global Navigation Satellite Systems. LNAV and Tesla s autopilot are pretty similar in function. LNAV by itself can be used to direct an aircraft left and right using assigned desired headings or to follow planned courses of flight whereas Tesla s autopilot uses the vehicle s sensors to follow the highways along its route of travel. It s essential in both cases to monitor the autopilot system especially in challenging conditions. These conditions can be either environmental (weather road conditions) or involve human factors (fatigue activities other than strictly steering the vehicle). Generally speaking in aircraft with a crew there s a pilot flying (PF) and a pilot monitoring (PM) and the PM s job is to back up the PF. Both are watching and listening for the annunciators that might indicate a fault or failure with the system in which case they would work together to troubleshoot and restore function or resort to hand-flying the aircraft. In cases where the PF transfers PF duties to the current PM it s important to confirm the level of automation so that both pilots are on the same sheet of music. I ve seen instances where a PF is hand-flying the aircraft and has it trimmed so well that it feels like autopilot is engaged. The other pilot might assume automation is hooked up until the aircraft starts to list to the side or lose a little bit of altitude…and by this point they d hopefully recognize the error rectify the situation and discuss it during debrief. I observed something similar to this on our road trip. The Tesla was approaching an area where the highway gained another lane. What I had repeatedly observed already was that the Model 3 would recognize the single lane widening try to stay evenly spaced between the edges of the widening road suddenly recognize a dashed line in front of it as the two-lane section began and then swerve to the left (towards oncoming traffic) to establish itself in the inside lane. As we approached this scenario I disengaged autopilot and made the transition myself. The tone sounded the visuals changed and I was “hand driving” - a natural transition I d experience in an airplane. However it was late in the day I was a little fatigued and I was enjoying some mountain scenery…so after the transition my brain went back to “autopilot mode” but the Model 3 didn t. The car started drifting and I could feel the lane departure safety feature gently steer my car away from the edge. When I sensed this occurring I recognized my error returned the car to the center of the lane and switched autopilot back on. My wife was asleep so I had nobody to chide me except myself! I appreciate the automatic safety features the car has since many travelers won t have a “PM” to back them up if they re ever fatigued or distracted. Speaking of fatigue autopilot greatly reduces fatigue and can extend the working day of pilots significantly. When I travel with a full crew we re capable of a 24-hour flying work day (rotating pilots through the bunk to sleep). However if the pitch axis of the autopilot stops functioning we re limited to 16 hours. Crossing the ocean while constantly making small corrections can be exhausting and increase the likelihood for errors. I found that after a full day of driving across the great plains states I wasn t nearly as tired as I would be driving my ICE vehicle (I know some ICE vehicles have smart cruise control lane keeping but mine doesn t). Sitting there and monitoring the car was much more pleasant than making constant adjustments for 12 hours! Lastly (and bear with me on this one) modern aircraft in conjunction with ATC use [Automatic Dependent Surveillance](https: www.faa.gov nextgen programs adsb ) (more specifically functions within ADS-B like [TIS-B](https: www.aopa.org news-and-media all-news 2017 may flight-training-magazine how-it-works-adsb)) and [Traffic Collision Avoidance System](https: en.m.wikipedia.org wiki Traffic_collision_avoidance_system) (TCAS) Mode S to gain information on proximity aircraft for purposes of sequencing and deconfliction. This information contains data on aircraft altitude speed vector etc. which can be transferred from airplane to airplane. Some of this data is visible to operators (TIS-B data) while some isn t (Mode S). In the case of Mode S two aircraft who are converging on collision courses who are both equipped with properly functioning Mode S transponders will be issued directional commands by their systems in order to deconflict their paths and restore a safe buffer between the jets. Now in the case of a Tesla there are no explicit systems like TIS-B and TCAS Mode S because every car would have to contain the required systems for it to work. Instead the car s sensors detect traffic around them to make decisions like braking and merging. I m not sure of the fidelity of the radar and other components but from what I ve seen they can be clumsy - especially in medium-traffic situations (or anything requiring merging with congestion). The benefit of a system that passes exact data between all vehicles is the car can make the most informed decision for precise and smooth maneuvering. Precise targeting radars in military applications can also gain lots of data on other vehicles but again I m not sure of the quality of data a Tesla is capable of gaining. Either way both should be capable of determining relative movement of nearby vehicles at a rate and accuracy far superior to human ability. If you ve made it this far thanks for reading my thoughts on the car s systems as a new Tesla owner. What s nice is that Tesla has a wealth of information from the aviation industry in both its successes and failures to continually improve upon the autonomous abilities of the fleet. | TheDoughGothamKneads | 2019-09-23 11:34:54 | 3,239 | f179v9q | I read your post throughly. Thank you for sharing your thought as an aircraft pilot s point of view. Some people and media are afraid and criticize Autopilot because they fail to understand the meaning of it. | Alarmmy | 2019-09-23 11:49:18 | 578 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
98elys | A Small Exciting news I would like to share which made me happy today | **Disclaimer:** This post is not about how I got a Tesla reserved or delivered stuff just my personal experience. **A BackStory:** I m a hardcore Tesla fan from the Southern part of India India is now on a verge of a breakthrough in internet consumption after the introduction of a billionaire Mukesh Ambani led telecom service **Jio** which provides almost everything free(calls + SMS) and gives away 1GB 4G internet for free every day. This led to a massive amount of Indian s experience what the Internet truly is at high speed. This led to more exposure of people to **YouTube** (very important for my story) which gave rise to content creators for the diverse population of India. **The Main Story:** Most people in India don t even know what Tesla is and still laugh when people start talking about Electric vehicles in general They just can t digest the fact that EV s are changing the world in the near future which makes me post [this video link](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=dIpm4H4VARQ)(If you want to watch it The language used is Tamil and there are no Subtitles in the video) It s a comedy video created by a rising YouTuber in South India with a **1.2 Million subscriber count** and the video posted has over **1.6 Million views** If you jump @ exactly [3:20](https: youtu.be dIpm4H4VARQ?t=3m20s) you could see the actor talking about the **Tesla Roadster** and how Elon launched it to space in a casual chit-chat who also mentions how **great the car is** and something about the **AutoPilot** in layman terms. Everything he talks about Tesla is just rough information and not accurate but this **video exposed Tesla to ~1 million viewers** which is why I m happy about. Elon s **greatest advertisement campaign is working** very powerfully i.e spreading the news about Tesla to all the people who ask about it. This is the first time I m listening to a casual YouTube content creator mentioning Tesla which **made me cry** instead of laughing at the video and was so happy about it being talked about. The best part of the video is that they are blown away **by how the Roadster 1.0 looks sexy** luxurious and some feature comforts about AutoPilot the viewers who never knew what a Tesla is would have **dropped their jaws** if they visited the Tesla website and looking at the Roadster 2.0 Models S 3 X series is and checking out their specifications. After watching this video I m sure at least 1%(~16K) of the viewers would have been converted into EV believers and ~1K turn into hardcore Musk followers. **I was just so happy I wanted to share my happiness with this awesome community** Get ready for a small increment in subscription count for this subreddit TL:DR:- I m from India average indian doesn t know what Tesla is or what an EV is capable in future a popular comedy YouTuber uploaded a video in Tamil which has reference to Roadster 1.0 and thinks it s luxurious with some Autopilot definition for the local people I cried instead of laughing to video because Tesla is mentioned and kinda explained to an average person | houston_wehaveaprblm | 2018-08-18 20:18:15 | 48 | e4fpgls | Please don t report this post. I m aware that it could go in a megathread but it s such a unique story and we don t get much about India so it s been approved. | majesticjg | 2018-08-18 23:42:37 | 15 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
4cri7c | A Surprisingly inspiring quote came from r wallstreetbets today: | > This is one of the big investing events that I live for. This event is literally everything. A company - and its creator s vision - thrives or dies today. I m happy to commit my money to be a small part of its history and have a story to tell. I ve been trading this stock for years. Today could be the end of my journey with it. I m not letting an old friend face the music alone. Although I won t be partaking in reserving a model 3 (be still my heart) I can rest easy knowing that tomorrow could be the start of a glorious future or the end of a long journey with a close friend. Credit where it s due shout-out to u epicer for this quote. | NothingToL0se | 2016-03-31 19:02:05 | 26 | d1kt0xm | They have a history of outperforming expectations so I m holding today. | howmanypoints | 2016-03-31 19:12:40 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4bibok | A Tale of Two Teslas | I recently had the chance to drive a Model S P90D with Ludicrous mode for a few days and wanted to compare it to the car I was finally able to bring home- my Model X P90D. Long story short I was supposed to pick up the X last week but it needed a last minute preventative repair on the falcon wing doors so Tesla gave me the Model S to drive as a loaner until the X was ready. Here are some thoughts and observations on the two cars. First [the album.](http: imgur.com a 1wDAC) **Model S P90DL** *The Model S with Ludicrous mode is a land rocket. It s almost cliche to talk about it but it really feels like driving a roller coaster. The launch from a dead stop feels like being hit in the chest with a Nerf foam bat and it literally can blur your vision as you feel the blood being drained from you head. *It feels strange knowing that 99% of the cars on the road around you are no match for the family sedan that you are driving in a 0-60 race. Even most exotic cars that look like 80s Transformers or alien space bugs are significantly slower to launch. Sure- there are a few cars that are as quick but in reality you will not see any on the road. This car is accelerating at the rate of a sport motorcycle- and it weighs 5 000 pounds. *The model S has a huge trunk space as well as the frunk. Combined with the flat footwell of the back seat it actually holds quite a lot of stuff. However it does not have a lot of cubbies and small storage spaces. I can see why lots of people criticize the interior as not being on par with other cars that cost much less. Still I like the clean look and feel of the cabin. **Model X P90D** *I thought I was going to feel sad not having ludicrous mode on the Model X after being spoiled by the 2.8s 0-60 speed of the S. I was wrong. A 3.8s 0-60 on the non-ludicrous Model X P90D is still extremely quick. I might only be quicker than 95% of the cars on the road now but it s still more than anyone needs. I would recommend that people on the fence NOT get ludicrous mode. If you know you need it for drag racing or making your passengers lose their lunch and the $10 000 price tag doesn t bother you then by all means get it. But if you are on the fence don t get it. The car is still stupid quick. And I believe you can always add it later if you really want it. *The X is an SUV. The U for utility is a welcome change from the Model S. The S was designed to be stark and bare on the inside- with two small drink holders no center console (although apparently that s changing soon) and no other storage besides the glove box. The X adds a center console rear cup holders five total USB plugs for charging a dedicated phone holder a small slot that s great for sunglasses underneath the center screen door storage and of course the taller trunk and larger frunk. The space under the seocnd row of seats is quite usable too. My only minor complaint is that the cell phone holder won t charge my iPhone since the case makes the port too short. I will have to look into some sort of extender. Also the phone charger is plugged into one of the USB ports so you lose one up front for this. *The panoramic windshield is actually a bigger deal to me than either ludicrous mode would have been or even the awesome falcon wing doors. It s hard to go back to regular car windshields after living with the X. Everything else feels like wearing blinders. *Speaking of blinders the X actually doesn t have great visibility in any direction that isn t forward (or up). The rear-view mirror is tiny which is fine because you can t see much out of the tiny rear window anyway. The active spoiler cuts another slice out of the already small section of glass. The side mirrors are not huge either- they are about the size of a regular car s mirrors instead of being larger like other SUV mirrors. I m sure it s better for drag but it s noticeably small coming from other vehicles of a similar size. Of course the active monitors and sensors as well as the rear-view camera that can be used at any time can help with this so it s not a huge deal. *I got the 6 seat configuration which adds a nice space in the middle of the car for the dog to sit in. It also helps with visibility and we discovered that with the back row folded down you can actually kneel in the middle space and use the flat area in the back as a baby changing station. *The auto-presenting front door is funny. It works but it s a bit quirky in that it almost feels like it has a personality. I d compare it to the robotic arm from the first Iron Man movie. It s always trying to please me by doing its job but sometimes it doesn t quite understand the context. Sometimes I just want to walk around the car to get somewhere else and the door opens with such excitement and purpose- only to have me walk by without getting in. If you walk far enough it will close the door with an abruptness that basically says Fine. Your loss. Sorry door- I didn t mean to leave you hanging! I promise we ll go out later. *The falcon wing doors deliver on the their function. Sure we have heard that there are some quirks with the sensors but I haven t personally had that issue yet. I assume it will lead me back to the service center at least once or twice in the lifetime of the car but I m ok with that. I d rather have an awesome door that works 95% of the time than a mediocre door that works 100% of the time. They really do make it easier to put a kid in the car and getting an adult into the second or third row is way easier. Also the wow factor is off the charts. The only thing that would draw a bigger crowd than opening the doors is if you openend them and Marty McFly and Doc Brown jumped out. *The next generation seats are very confortable. They are noticeably softer than the seats in the S but still firm enough to give good support. It s a very comfortable amount of sink and bounce. I got the 20 wheels for better range towing ability and a softer ride- but the ride is still much stiffer and sportier than many other SUVs. The seats help to make it quite comfortable though. I feel like the seats in the S hold you a little better if you re taking corners aggressively but that s to be expected for a sportier car. I wish there was a setting for a comfort or sport ride quality much like the setting for the steering wheel. I wonder if this is possible with the air suspension. *On the Model S the right side of the instrument panel behind the steering wheel showed a screen with stats on the trip milage energy comsumption etc. On the X it shows a top down view of the car with the tire pressures and warnings for any open doors. I see how that would be beneficial before you start driving but the trip info is way more interesting and useful once you are moving. I am pretty sure both cars had up to date firmware but hopefully they update the X to have the same screen as the S as an option in the future. *The bottom half of the S touchscreen always shows the door controls in the controls section. on the X it shows controls for the cabin lighting and headlights. There is a dedicated tab for door controls on the top half of the screen but I m not actually sure which is more useful to have in that always on space at the bottom. It would be nice to have that be a setting that the driver can set to be a bookmarked control section. *Pressing the lock button on the key will close the driver and passenger doors if they are open but not the falcon wing doors. It would be nice to have a close all button on the door control screen to close all doors and the trunk. I m guessing the frunk has to be a manual latch so it s fine to leave that out. *The button on the supercharger and home charger doesn t open the charging port door. The door can be opened in the charging screen of the touch panel and also via the phone app but for some reason the button doesn t work yet. Hopefully that comes in a future update. *The X isn t much larger than the S in terms of footprint but the increased ride height and body shape makes it feel larger. The design of the front slopes down from the cabin so it makes it hard to see exactly where the front end of the car is. Having the sensors on the car makes this a non issues since it tells you exactly how many inches you are from a wall or obstruction. *Autopilot is fantastic even for how simplistic it is right now. Staying in a lane and monitoring the speed of traffic really is good enough for 95% of highway driving. Once they add more awareness for merging lanes and context from the GPS I think that will take it to 99% effectiveness. That last 1% will probably be a bitch to figure out though since that s basically the human element that is not as predictable. *The X is noticeably louder than the S. I m sure the higher profile generates more wind noise and it could be that they have had less time to refine the seals on the doors or the road noise coming through the tires. *I haven t been able to get summon to work from the keyfob yet. It works fine from the car and the app though. **General thoughts:** *I think the map needs the ability to cache some large parts offline. Depending on the cellular radio for map and radio can get sketchy through parts of the mountains or back country. *I love that my car is upgradeable over the air. Waiting for the car was like being 8 years old and waiting for Christmas (for over two years though!) and waiting for firmware updates is kinda like waiting for inevitable snow days. You know one is coming eventually but you just never know when or how good it will be. *I wish the touchscreen and specifically the map app was snappier. I get that they probably bought a few thousand CPUs a few years ago but I would expect a car that costs over $80K to feel smoother than an iPad from 2010. At least give us an option to upgrade it somehow. And let us watch videos in the browser in Park mode! *The LTE signal doesn t seem to do better than 2 bars most of the time (in the LA area). It doesn t seem to be an issue for maps and internet radio most of the time but it is surprising to not see a stronger signal in more places. Even a strong signal seems to test at relatively slow throughput speeds (8Mbps 3Mbps). It has dropped to 3G a few times in densely populated areas as well. *I couldn t help but feel bad for ICE cars after spending time in the Teslas. Of course I would never look down on someone who was driving an ICE vehicle since many are still fun more affordable more situationally useful or easier to fuel- but I really start to think of them as Blackberries a year or two after the introduction of the iPhone. The future is here. *I hope the Model 3 is quick like the S and X. Hopefully it will do 0-60 in better then 5 seconds and maybe even sub 4 if they offer a performance model. I feel like they can do it with the technology quite easily but may slow it down a bit so that the S still reigns king at a premium price. But I don t think it matters exactly how quick the car is- since the instant torque is the real star. Being able to get that instant power is the true addictive quality of the driving profile. | Oysterous | 2016-03-22 17:09:06 | 52 | d19fxj7 | > The auto-presenting front door is funny. This would drive me nuts I think. I already think it s weird how often my S flashes unlocks every time I walk by to take out the trash get the mail etc. > I haven t been able to get summon to work from the keyfob yet. It works fine from the car and the app though. Do you have Continuous Press disabled in the settings? This was a safety feature added recently... I don t think fob-summoning works unless it s disabled. > I couldn t help but feel bad for ICE cars after spending time in the Teslas This I think is inevitable! I felt bad for my ICE the day I test drove an S. And now every time I ride an ICE I can t help thinking it sounds like you are trying so hard to accomplish so little. | EatMoarToads | 2016-03-22 18:30:08 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7g7383 | A Tesla Specialist told me that Autopilot varies between each battery config. Is this true? | Hi! I m doing an article for my journalism class about Autopilot on Tesla vehicles. I visited a Tesla Store in NYC to learn more about Autopilot (and have a direct source for this info as I have to avoid websites). I spoke to a nice Tesla Specialist that gave me a tour of the car and Autopilot but one thing that left me thinking is that the specialist said that Autopilot is better on the higher battery config cars. For instance said Specialist said that Autopilot won t change lanes on its own on the 75D cars but will do so on the 100D and P100D. To my understanding the difference between each battery configuration is the range and the performance. Aside from that every car is the same in the interior software and so on. Is this Specialist right or I just researched wrong? Thank you in advanced! | exjr_ | 2017-11-28 20:17:28 | 14 | dqgyvnx | Completely false. | dirtyfries | 2017-11-28 20:20:36 | 51 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
2v9k6b | A Tesla Trucking Company?? (crazy speculation here) | I think Tesla is on track to make real change in the personal transportation market. When the Gigafactory comes online and they start pushing out the model 3 things should be going well and they might become profitable. So what comes next? Besides making other personal cars I imagine they might be interested in electrifying commercial transport. If the gigafactory is making big cheap battery packs then could they potentially make electric 18 wheelers? It would require massive batteries and a really fantastic rapid battery swap infrastructure but on say a fifteen year time line it might seem reasonable? Anyone with more knowledge about long-distance trucking or electric vehicles have input as to why this would not be feasible? If Elon wants combustion engines to be a quaint thing of the past this needs to addressed eventually. | smithkw54 | 2015-02-09 04:03:12 | 34 | cofqjii | Garbage trucks is where electrification makes almost 100% sense today. Their stop and go driving is perfect for electric since it s slow and regen can recapture much of the energy. Not to mention a loud diesel truck at 5:30 AM. | OompaOrangeFace | 2015-02-09 05:39:12 | 62 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bujfxy | A Tesla does not make a good off-road vehicle | No. I didn t try this intentionally. I went to a graduation party and all the guests had to park in a field. It then downpoured for 2 hours straight and the whole field turned to mud. Just walking to my car my shoes were sinking a couple inches into the mud. A couple people had to get pushed out but no one could budge this heavy car. Luckily the tow hook worked perfectly and a truck towed me out. http: imgur.com gallery ZBid7cX | sfustin | 2019-05-29 20:05:39 | 26 | epd0ptj | AWD may have faired a bit better but the clearance isn t all that great. Did you try the Slip Start setting specifically for getting out of mud? | caz0 | 2019-05-29 20:10:58 | 34 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
bxpq1l | A Tesla for single vehicle family | About to have a kid and we can only get one car. Would you guys recommend getting a Tesla at this point in time? I can t be without a car for more than a couple days and with a child I definitely need something reliable. For people who ve had issues with long repair times do you get a loaner from Tesla the whole time? My concerns are mostly with repair times and issues like frozen door handles. I also don t want to be stuck on the side of the road with a new child. | mandozo | 2019-06-07 03:11:17 | 22 | eq8wild | We are a single car family so we got a Model S (bigger than TM3 but X was too big). We love it and haven t had any issues where we didn t have the car. Just get rental coverage on your insurance and you won t have to worry about long repairs. If it s an issue covered by the warranty Tesla will give you a loaner for the entire time they have it. | jmack20093 | 2019-06-07 03:18:15 | 17 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
ahoby6 | A Tesla now costs more to fuel up than a 30MPG car | ::EDIT 2:: Tesla reduces price increase from 33% to 10%! Don t ever claim complaining wont help anything! https: electrek.co 2019 01 22 tesla-cuts-supercharger-prices-back-down-customer-backlash amp ?__twitter_impression=true ::EDIT:: to anyone still able to read this. The auto mod deleted my post because too many users reported it as breaking the rules. [meirl.](https: media.giphy.com media CkyUXq5n6mtag giphy.gif) From getting rid of the Tesla referral program (fair) to cutting 3 000 American jobs (shit!) to announcing a 33% increase in supercharging (come on!) this has not been a good week for Tesla owners and potential owners. The echo chamber is loud here we need to realize why the cut in staff and the increase in supercharging is a much greater issue than the apologists here will claim. I understand that layoffs can be considered a temporary setback in order to keep Tesla s mission of sustainable transportation alive but the loss of 3 000 employees while Tesla s customer support and service are a disaster doesn t exactly inspire consumer confidence (“humans are underrated”). The increase in supercharging just comes off as greedy and will have consequences that many people are overlooking. Assuming 3 kWh costs $1 and you gain an optimum efficiency of 3 miles kWh you re getting 27 miles for the price of a gallon of gas…this is if driving in ideal conditions. What s this equal out to? You went from getting a full charge for $15 (which was already pricey in comparison to charging at home) to $25. $25 for 260 – 300 miles is not the gas saving advantage that Tesla loved to claim. We went from Elon stating that supercharging would always be free to having it limited to S and X models to limiting it to S and X models built before a certain time to making it a paid service for all don t be surprised to see charging rates increase in the future. I purchased a Mid Range with the intention of having it for all my driving purposes to enjoy driving it everywhere from my daily commute to summer vacation road trips. One of its main selling points and justifications for purchasing such an expensive car was the massive advantage in cost savings for fuel and maintenance. Now that it costs more to fuel up than a car that has a 30MPG estimate while also having the disadvantage of waiting 40 – 60 minutes for a full charge what incentive do I have to take it on road trips? Had I known a price cut was coming around immediately after my purchase I would ve held off on buying the car or in hindsight bought the Long Range model to charge up an additional 60 miles at home. I ve seen plenty of people argue that the majority of owners will charge at home at a significantly cheaper rate while this is true and most certainly applies to my lifestyle I feel that the reactions to this price increase really reflects the distorted perception that many users on this sub seem to have…this belief that everyone should own a house and that if you don t then you shouldn t be buying a Tesla (I saw some responses saying “just get solar!” as if an additional $40 000 to install solar is a practical solution to a 33% supercharging increase). This is a gatekeeping tactic that won t help expand the advancement of EVs. EVs need to be accessible and affordable to people with middle to low incomes it s never going to reach those markets if a McMansion is required for ownership. The Middle class is your bread and butter this is why there are still hundreds of thousands reservations waiting for the $35 000 base model. $35 000 is pricey as it is but the market showed that people were willing to take that hit for a car that promised so much. From my own personal experience I was waiting for that base model as well but ended up buying the Mid Range model to take advantage of the state and federal incentives that will likely be gone by the time the base model finally rolls out. I m an owner and might have to deal with the price increase but I strongly encourage people to make a bigger deal about this because it IS a big deal. Let s hope Tesla reconsiders their pricing structure for the sake of maximizing their customer base. It s easy for us to say “just deal with it” because we ve already bought the car but think about how many future buyers will be thwarted once they come to the realization that taking trips over 300 miles is not going to be a financial advantage. The people who have already spent $50k - $70k on their premium models do not have the same lifestyles of the people waiting on a $35k model. | jimmyphotocall | 2019-01-19 17:54:07 | 1,463 | eegogyt | As a European it sounds more like the problem is your gas or diesel are not taxed enough to offset the environmental impact it has. So in a sense it is subsidized which just makes it artificially cheaper which to me is weird. That combined with you guys not having enough slower public charging spots for street or garage parking. You need the government (on some level) to use incentives to make companies build chargers as well as working with charge networks to install chargers at public parking spots. Superchargers can never be built in enough capacity for everyone to use those as their main charging not unless the cost of charge goes up dramatically to pay for the investment. They are meant for very high charge speeds so they are costly per charger this is something we need when just making a charge stop on a trip but it is not something we can rely on for every day charging in the future. I live in an apartment (not a rental though) and I charge in a public garage where a third of all spots have 1 phase 16A charging I don t charge every night as I have a bigger parking spot in another garage that is cheaper but even though I pay around $12 per time I charge in parking fees it is still a lot cheaper in total than gas would be. | OfarligGiraffe | 2019-01-19 19:27:21 | 439 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
21o3no | A Tesla post gets silently banned from r technology | This is the post: http: www.reddit.com r technology comments 21nqc0 teslas_settles_model_s_fire_and_new_york_sales 2 hours ago this post was ~~frontpaging~~ the first post on r technology with 793 upvotes and 183 downvotes. Now it is nowhere to be seen. It has been silently removed. Notice how spelling Tesla**s** (with the s) in the title helped it get past the first automated filter. What bothers me the most is the silence around it. No reason given for removal and not even a rule about Tesla posts in r technology sidebar. This is not proper modding this is full blown censorship. PR motivated in my opinion. | 201109212215 | 2014-03-29 13:24:16 | 216 | cgewlyq | Curiously this was posted by their own moderator u anutensil and it was *still* deleted. I m guessing agentlame didn t shadowban anutensil [like he shadowbanned me](https: pay.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 21lurz tesla_is_banned_from_rtechnology_and_so_am_i_for cgebafr?context=3) though. ) | [deleted] | 2014-03-29 14:11:12 | 43 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
cg8sem | A Tesla realist reviews the past year | Over the past year there have been several developments that are easy to lose sight of. Equally important it has been easy for enthusiasts to forget how far Tesla needed to go and how far they ve come. I consider myself a realist when it comes to Tesla (or life in general) so I figured I d make a few notes before the Q2 2019 call. # Production It s easy to forget that in Q2 ~~2019~~ 2018 Tesla wasn t yet in delivery hell and had barely turned the corner on production hell . During the Q2 2018 earnings call Elon spoke for the second time that year about their problems with automation and low production numbers. He revealed to investors that they had completed the build of the GA4 line it was in fact in a tent they had stripped out most of the automation and that the line was showing promise. Deepak seemed very excited about this development in particular. While the nay-sayers scoffed at the idea of a tent housing a vehicle production line Tesla seemed to suggest that every Performance Model 3 was rolling off that line. I can personally attest that when I got my P3D in October it was fantastic. I have had zero issues with my car zero service appointments and I m still quite happy with my purchase. In Q1 2018 Tesla had only produced 9 766 Model 3 and by Q2 2018 they had made 28 578 Model 3. This was the first time that Model 3 production had surpassed combined S and X production! As of Q2 2019 Tesla has produced 72 531 Model 3 and delivered 77 550. While the shorts were busy telling the world that the S curve was fake Tesla made it happen. Not only did they make it happen but they ve successfully eaten portions of BMW s Mercedes and Lexus market share. That fact has led to the departure of BMW s CEO after being in that position for only 4 years. A man that spent three _decades_ at BMW was this shortsighted and forced to resign as a result. **Edit:** I should have added this thanks to u M3FanOZ for reminding me. During Tesla s worst production quarter of the Model 3 (Q1 2018) they still produced and sold more Model 3 than Audi has made e-Tron or Jaguar has made iPace for an entire year. Every single Jaguar iPace produced and sold everywhere on the planet is less than Q1 2018 for Model 3. That s the so-called Tesla Killer market. # Twitter In Q2 2018 Elon went on a bit of a Twitter bender tweeting about an upcoming short burn of the century offering short shorts as Tesla merch. and so on. It was pretty clear that the shorts were getting under his skin as he continued to push hard at the factory. Unfortunately no short burn came. We did get to see funny pictures of short shorts being delivered to Dave Einhorn from Chubbie s in San Francisco though. We also saw melt downs between Elon and news outlets like Bloomberg Business Insider and CNBC. Specifically we saw Elon tweet about Linette Lopez several times inferring links between her and several wealthy short sellers as well as the TSLAQ nonsense in general. We don t know to what extent these claims are true or not but we do know for a fact that Linette has written several scathing pieces about Tesla and Elon and none of them seem to have come true or been factual. Just today we ve found out a possible link between another reporter and two former Tesla employees claiming the CNBC reporter Lora Kolodny connected them to the TSLAQ movement which they claim has raised money for them. Again these are Internet allegations so we don t actually know their validity. Unfortunately between Q2 2018 and Q2 2019 we also had Elon s now infamous 420 tweet a settlement with the SEC an SEC claim of violation of the settlement and a new settlement that is more specific and apparently agreeable to all parties. This was a major unforced error on Elon and Tesla s part and it just gave the nay-sayers more to work with. Elon also went on a Twitter tirade against the SEC calling them Shortseller Enrichment Commission and noting he has no respect for SEC. Hopefully this is now all well behind us and Tesla can focus on building the best battery EVs on the market. # Vehicles Over the past year the Model 3 has absolutely been selling like hotcakes. Or Strüpwaffle. Whatever your favorite snack is Tesla is selling Model 3 like that. And they ve announced new offerings in that time! The Model Y and the Pickup fit into markets that aren t just more popular than the Model 3 s sedan market but are the only markets that are growing in share globally! The crossover baby-SUV market is extremely popular- In the US it accounts for more than 50% of passenger vehicle sales and in Europe the crossover market has been growing in leaps and bounds. Between 2011 and 2016 the crossover market in Europe _doubled_ to be a full quarter of passenger vehicle sales! To say that the Model Y is striking when the iron s hot would be an understatement. As for the pickup in the US market the three most popular vehicles being sold are pickups. Ford Chevy and Dodge account for more than two million pickup sales per year. As of 2018 the average sale price for a new pickup was over $48 000 USD. At nearly $50 000 that leaves Tesla an awful lot of room to enter the market with a full sized pickup offering 300 miles of range unprecedented torque and the ability to operate power tools directly from the onboard inverter for trucks that are used commercially. Not having to run generators at job sites is a game changer for all kinds of industries. More mind blowing than that at an average of $48 000 the pickup truck market in the US alone is worth over $97.5 billion. Even if Tesla took 1% of that market that s still nearly an additional 1 billion in 2021. # Technology In 2019 we saw Tesla announce the result of their new FSD computer work- A computer with purpose built components for running their neural network. The new FSD computer costs less than the previous HW2 and HW2.5 systems is more power efficient and is better optimized for their workload making it faster in their specific application. Regardless of whether or not we see FSD in 2019 this is a major step forward. Being able to run larger networks means Tesla will likely be able to process full resolution data from their cameras at full frame rates. Providing more data to the network will allow it to potentially make better decisions and recognized previously invisible or hard to recognize patterns. Tesla also announced their approach to connecting training data from their fleet- Any time an operator intervention occurs data will be gathered and sent to Tesla for annotation and possible addition to the training corpus. Beyond that when HW3 is operational the FSD computer will potentially execute two copies of the neural network allowing a comparison between what the current network s actions are versus what a new network would have been. This so-called shadow mode also apparently runs at all times even comparing operator actions to network predictions and feeding incorrect decisions back to Tesla. Automating this data collection at such a large scale has the potential to push Tesla well beyond their current performance and conceivably surpass any currently known competition in the very near future. Over the past year we ve also had several misses. Once again we saw tweets predicting the imminent release of features that haven t yet arrived. Enhanced summon and especially full self driving. FSD has been months away since 2016 and enhanced summon has been coming next week since the beginning of this year. We got to see enhanced summon in test action back in May and by all accounts the development effort has been improving its behavior and performance. As of now the latest predicted release date for enhanced summon appears to be August 2019 which is right in the middle of Q2 and Q3. As for FSD we saw an additional live demonstration at Autonomy Day but still no coast to coast drive nor an intervention-free demo. Finally we heard at Autonomy Day that winter weather training would begin this year and by the time FSD was ready Teslas would be able to drive in the snow. # Robo-Taxi In April 2019 again at autonomy day we officially heard that Tesla would be operating a ride hailing network of autonomous vehicles. The plan is to allow vehicle owners to opt their FSD vehicle into the network and allow the vehicle to pick passengers up like a driverless Lyft. Initially it was announced that Tesla would take 30% of the revenue and that opting your vehicle into the service would effectively make enough revenue to pay for your vehicle and make an estimated $30 000 beyond that. When asked about the revenue figures Elon mentioned he thought they sounded right and that there wasn t any specific research behind the figures. Since the announcement there have been many discussions in the TSLA investor circles the autonomous hardware circles and in many Tesla forums (including this one). Many of these conversations suggest their own operating cost figures as well as passenger carrying capabilities. So far I haven t seen a single analysis of what someone in Nebraska could plan to make from such a service nor what an additional competitor to the ride hailing market would do in major markets like NYC LA SF and so on. Per mile cost estimates from Elon were around $0.30 USD but any time I ve ever calculated the cost it s $0.46 or more. If the per-mile fee for passengers is only $1.00 then that leaves the owner with only $0.24 mi profit. To make $30 000 profit in a year the vehicle would need to carry passengers for more than 125 000 miles which would make operating costs absolutely skyrocket. At $2.00 per mile the vehicle would need to drive a more reasonable 31 915 miles to earn $30 000 which is the annual mileage I based my operating costs on. This puts a Tesla rideshare trip at the same cost as a Lyft Plus ride in most markets. All of this hinges on operator-less self driving being available which seems very unlikely by the 2020 deadline. # Interviews In the past year we ve had some _fantastic_ interviews with Elon. It was a very intense year for him personally and professionally obviously so these interviews ranged from very measured clearly thought out responses to emotionally driven and raw. Of real note to me were the Joe Rogan interview the Kara Swisher Recode interview the NY Times interview I absolutely loved the u dmc_ryan Ride The Lightning interview and probably my number 2 of all time Elon interview was with Lex Fridman. Generally speaking I think the more Elon does interviews with fans for lack of a better term the more positive impact the interview has. I ve been saying this for a year now but he needs to stop talking to these news outlets that constantly try to drag Tesla and instead use the massive growing network of Tesla super fans. The message is easier to get out the chance of gotcha questions are less and the opportunity to get the good news about Tesla and their work simply can not be beat. # TL DR The past 12 months since the Q2 2018 earnings call have been quite impressive for Tesla. They ve produced the most popular EV they re selling them faster than they can be produced more people are becoming converts as they see and experience Tesla s vehicles in the wild and the social media ups and downs seem to have subsided. More vehicles are coming in the next 12 months that fit into even more popular market segments than Tesla has ever sold to before the financials are stabilizing China factory is on schedule quality is improving and most of all Tesla is winning. Still as of today nobody competes with a 7 year old Model S. | drdabbles | 2019-07-22 04:49:36 | 112 | euff2fo | Good write up I think the past 18 months has been challenging for Elon and Tesla but there are strong signs that the worst is over.. & #x200B I think critics of all kinds are quick to assume Tesla and Elon don t know what they are doing and a lot of the criticism is based on assumptions rather than a deep understanding of the Tesla strategy. & #x200B They do make mistakes I m not saying they are perfect. But critics seem to be holding them to a higher standard of performance than other car companies. Other car companies are slow to produce EVs in any great numbers and many of the products are inferior compared to a 2012 Model S. I am sure the media could find a few disgruntled ex-employees to say bad things about most car companies & #x200B So I agree that overall they have made good progress over the last 12 month the next 12 months seems set up to go a lot better. China GF coming on stream is one example of that. I am amazed how many media critics seem to ignore the China factory. | M3FanOZ | 2019-07-22 05:05:33 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
blphm2 | A Tesla sounds like you get a lot for your buck what are some disadvantages of getting a Tesla? | For instance I read someone say that you shouldn t buy off brand tires for a Tesla. Made me wonder what things you should take in consideration before purchasing the car. Maybe you ve had something unexpected happened you wish you knew before buying a Tesla. | Sigdavtilmig | 2019-05-07 11:21:47 | 27 | emqarba | If you re not able to charge at your house or work owning a Tesla can take more day-to-day management than owning a gas car. While the supercharger network now covers most areas there are still some holes. Looking at you Newfoundland. Some consider the interiors less luxurious than other cars for the price. I am not one of them but I prefer great tech over wood and leather. They re expensive for most people. Sales and service can be bumpy but personally my own experiences have been fantastic thus far. Wait times for repairs is a valid criticism for those unlucky enough to need it. The cars do struggle with body panel alignment and paint issues at times but Tesla is very good at fixing these things. The cars lose something like ~25% range in cold weather (this is true of any EV). The cars are more computers than cars so you should probably be comfortable with things like having to reboot the screen if there s a glitch which happens from time to time. Insurance can be expensive but this seems to vary wildly by provider. With all of that said I absolutely love mine just upgraded to my 2nd one. | GetawayDriving | 2019-05-07 11:37:57 | 90 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8um70o | A Thought on the Open Configuration and Tesla s Cash on Hand | So with the configuration opening up to seemingly everyone I stopped to try and figure out why. I am not a stocks or overly business-savy person but here s whatI came up with: I put my reservation for my Model 3 in March 2018 but due to my impatience I acquired another s place in line (March 2016) for a small fee which coupled with me selling my TDI back to Volkswagen meant the timetable would work great for transitioning between vehicles. I am scheduled for delivery in one week an am beyond excited. However today I see the configuration opened up on my March 2018 reservation and I was a mix of disbelief WTF and how did this happen? How is this possible that Tesla would just open up configuration for everyone? Surely there are too many the wait would be way more than the 10 weeks I waited from configuration to delivery. Then I had a thought: It s a cash grab...and I mean that in not a shady way but a very strategic one. Upon configuration of the Model 3 you have to pay an additional NON_REFUNDABLE $2500 deposit for the car that gets knocked off the price of the car. It s this point that I believe is the reason Tesla opened to everyone: Tesla is opening up configuration now letting thousands of people put down a non-refundable deposit in order to bolster their cash-on-hand. The money they collected from people will no longer just be held with the possibility of refunds now it will actually be Tesla s money. So when the shareholder s call happens Elon can say they have seen both a large influx of M3 orders and their on-hand cash is at record highs due to the non-refundable deposits that they can tout and then use for whatever they need. It s actually strategically very clever. TL DR: Tesla opened configuration to acquire more non-refundable deposits to bolster growth and on-hand cash for shareholder meeting. | OriginalTodd | 2018-06-28 18:39:20 | 18 | e1gd4a0 | That might be part of it. Also allows all reservation holders to get free premium connectivity for life by ordering before July 1 which is nice | thebigkevdogg | 2018-06-28 18:43:17 | 17 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
8ixzac | A Tip For Non-Tesla Trade Ins | As part of the trade in process after you rate your car on a few things in text they ask you to upload pictures. The last picture is supposed to be a picture of your registration or title if you own the car. Save some time and upload a picture of your registration the title and the odometer (and make sure the number you put into the odometer field is the whole thing don t round it off). What the website claims is a 24 hours process for a trade in offer and what my delivery specialist said would be 48 hours is instead a week because they wanted the exact mileage (I gave them the exact mileage it just happened to be on an even thousand so it looked rounded) and the additional pictures. The delivery specialist waited the full 48 to get back to me after the initial picture upload to ask for the additional pics and then waited a full 24 hours to view my response and submit it to the remarketing department which apparently moves it all back to the beginning of the queue for that 24 hour turnaround which is actually a 48 hour turnaround which means I m not hearing back from them until Monday evening at earliest at this point. So exact mileage and put together a picture with your registration AND odometer and title if you have it. Hopefully yours takes the claimed two days at most and not the seven mine is taking. edit: Wow. I m surprised how fast everyone else s offers came back. I guess I m the only one that actually needed this tip. I wonder why mine is taking such a long time in comparison. | Crazy_Sniffable | 2018-05-12 18:37:05 | 52 | dyvfvpc | Also they will match carmax prices (and texasautotrader here in TX) so get those estimates before finalizing a trade. Check what other companies tesla may match in your state. In my case tesla s original quote for my q40 was $19000. I took my car to carmax and they have me a quote for $20000. I then took the carmax quote to texasautotrader who beat it by 500 for $20 500 which tesla matched. | skreemer7 | 2018-05-12 18:53:21 | 23 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ds050j | A Word Of Caution About Scheduled Departure | I had set up Scheduled Departure to have my car ready by 8am on weekdays and opted \*not\* to use the cabin pre-conditioning feature as I live in Texas and it isn t necessary. Things have been going well since I got the update on Saturday my car has been charged and ready to go by 8am no problems there. But this morning I went into my garage to get in my car and heard a loud noise coming from the hood of my Model 3. Thinking that was odd I opened my car door to get in and noticed that the A C was blasting at near full speed at the lowest temperature setting you could put it on (Lo). My car was utterly frigid. Everything in the car was icy to the touch and as soon as I backed it out of the garage the entire car fogged over due to the temperature difference. I had to run the heater in my car for over 15 minutes to finally stop all glass surfaces from being 100% fogged over including the windshield and all windows the computer screen and the rear view mirror. All were completely unusable until my car s interior heated up. I double checked the settings and sure enough the check box for pre-conditioning the interior was definitely off. The Scheduled Departure setting must have a bug in it that just turns on the A C system full blast at the lowest setting. I have no idea if that was the last setting I set it to but with the weather being very mild right now I doubt it. TL DR - Scheduled Departure blasted my cabin A C for who knows how long this morning even though I did not enable that setting when setting it up. My car was undrivable for 15 minutes while I heated up the interior so it wouldn t be completely fogged over. & #x200B Updates: This might be why they maybe pulled the update - it s a pretty bad bug. Well this and the fact that cars seem to be driving forward when in reverse. :- When I parked this evening at home my car wanted to do Scheduled Departure again despite me selecting Scheduled Charging before I left earlier in the morning. Not cool. | dcdttu | 2019-11-05 14:48:02 | 155 | f6m51mc | This is not cool... | consciousmimd | 2019-11-05 15:12:09 | 134 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
etkxhk | A better builtin Spotify UI! | I don t know if someone else has already shared this but TIL that since the builtin Spotify client is actually a Spotify Connect client you can use other Spotify UIs to control it. I know that last year somebody developed TesPlayer to control a phone streaming via Bluetooth from the built in browser. I thought to myself well if the car is a Spotify Connect client and the car s browser is now Chromium based can t I use Spotify s own web player control the car s music? So I opened up the browser and cranked up [open.spotify.com](https: open.spotify.com) and lo and behold I had a better Spotify UI in my car! [It works!](https: preview.redd.it 80rz6g576uc41.jpg?width=2048& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=2bae99859f47a173c1ceaef0adc23789b2742ee5) It works best if you re already playing a song in Spotify on the car when you start since it doesn t look like Spotify Connect is running unless that s happening. But you can control your playback on the panel at the bottom and pretty much do anything with playlists you want since it s the full web player UI. It s not without its glitches but it works great well other than the usual connectivity issues we know about. Dunno why I didn t think of this before! It makes me dream of a day when we can play any streaming audio web app while driving. | mentalbob | 2020-01-25 02:39:20 | 137 | ffh3sbt | What happens if you close the browser to view navigation? | stevetheobscure | 2020-01-25 03:18:50 | 20 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
7mqhk7 | A boatload of Model 3s on their way to LA | I was driving up from LA to SF today and I saw at least 15 trucks all filled with Teslas heading the opposite direction towards LA. Of those 15 at least 7 were completely filled with Model 3s. Reservation holders feastin soon | MaliciousBoy | 2017-12-28 23:52:50 | 109 | drvwcuj | Its Rampening! | Drdontlittle | 2017-12-28 23:59:59 | 61 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bi5ozz | A brief explanation of the Tesla Semi by a logistics company owner | So I keep seeing a lot of posts about the Tesla Semi and it seems like most people dont understand its purpose or outright do not believe it is possible. As the owner of a small logistics company I would like to explain exactly what the Semi is and what it is supposed to do and how. The Semi is a class 8 truck this is the largest category of truck before they require oversize permits. This class of trucks is up to 80 000lbs and routinely carry cargos of up to 45 000lbs. Most of the competition is class 5 and 6 with a few class 7 and one class 8. But none of them are even remotely as capable or viable as the Tesla Semi. For instance not a single one of them has a battery supplier capable of providing the number of required batteries. The Tesla Semi likely has a battery in the 450 to 600kwh range. A typical truck burns about 400kwh of fuel per hour but only roughly 25% of this is converted into actual power. This means an electric semi only needs about 100kwh of power per hour. This means the Tesla Semi has a minimum range of 292 miles without counting regenerative braking or aerodynamic improvements. Counting regen braking and using the larger 6x100kwh battery packs it will almost certainly be able to exceed 500 miles for high end models. Efficiency wise the Semi will be outstanding. Tesla gets bulk power for about 3 cents per kwh on the energy market and resells it for 7 cents to the trucks. This is 7 dollars per hour compared to 30 dollars for diesel. That is almost $70 000 per year in fuel savings alone. So when Musk says it will literally pay for itself he is not joking. Even if the price of power is twice what he claims it will still cover its own cost in savings. What about charging? This is a major issue for OTR (Over The Road) trucking because they can be required to deliver anywhere in the country. This is absolutely an issue that will take time. But for LTL (Less Than Truckload) this is not an issue. LTL is the largest and most important market. These companies use Class 8 trucks for line haul which is from terminal to terminal. The class 8 trucks haul pairs of pup trailers that are separated after delivery and a pair of lighter class 7 trucks then deliver to the final customers. The line haul trucks rarely leave the interstate and will always be near charger routes and their home chargers. LTL also have far lower load weight and so additional battery weight is not an issue. The Tesla can also operate in place of the class 7 trucks for local deliveries under 250 miles. Since class 7 trailers are half the weight the range of the Tesla Semi would actually be significantly longer when being used in that manner. So its very well suited for LTL and line haul operations. LTL companies are the largest and most profitable trucking companies in the world. They dominate the industry. Companies like UPS Fedex and the dozens of smaller multi billion dollar shipping companies. There are also tens of thousands of companies that run their own trucks to transfer equipment between warehouses. These are also prime customers. As you can see the Semi is actually a very viable design and has an absolutely massive potential market even compared to the Model 3. It is also a captive market as trucking companies HAVE to replace trucks as they wear out about 20% of their fleets per year. From a technical financial and commercial point of view the Tesla Semi is absolutely 100% possible of what Musk claims it is possible of. There is not a doubt in my mind. Hope that helps people understand. **TLDR: The Semi is 100% physically and economically possible and has a huge market for the LTL trucking industry.** Edit: For those wondering about Musk s claims about using solar or renewables to power trucks from power generated directly on site its also completely possible. Each 100k square feet of solar can power 8-20 trucks and most DCs are closer to a million square feet. Many food service companies actually use class 7 trailers and have drivers unload the trucks which means they only go 100-200 miles per day between loading and unloading. Roughly 60 trucks could be powered per 100k ft of solar panels. Rooftop solar may not be powerful enough by itself for many extremely busy DCs but most DCs have several hundred thousand feet of perimeter land available that is more than enough to make up the difference. Most busy DCs are surrounded by open land or other much less busy DCs that could easily provide enough solar power. Typical warehouses take only a few trucks a day per 100k of rooftop space so its absolutely possible to use solar alone or for less busy warehouses to provide additional power for more busy DCs. Its completely 100% viable. Wind is also more than capable of providing adequate power on site. A 1MW windmill can provide power for 20-60 trucks depending on what class and how far their routes are. A typical Walmart DC could fit over 20MW of wind turbines easily around the perimeter. Possibly even twice that. That would be enough for 400+ fully loaded 53 foot trailers to be delivered 500 miles each day. So going electric is absolutely completely and totally viable even for the largest multi million foot distribution centers. | King_of_the_pups | 2019-04-28 00:43:24 | 461 | elyfakg | What most people don t consider is the terminals themselves can have chargers the trucks don t have to make special stops to charge | shellderp | 2019-04-28 02:36:24 | 88 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4297p3 | A case for a smaller Model S as the Model 3. | It doesn t seem to be directly addressed but I want to make a brief case for why I think the Model 3 will just be a smaller Model S with some minor updates. Firstly simplicity. As the first mass produced vehicle Tesla could not afford the complexity that things like Falcon Wing doors have brought not only do they increase risks in design and implementation but also in sustainment. Basically just another part to go wrong. Design. The Model S is known as a nice looking car nothing outrageous and not supercar about it. To achieve a low drag coefficient the Model 3 will still need to keep similar lines and curves as the Model S in order to be able to be inline with the Tesla design theme. i.e. it has to LOOK like a Tesla you can see this in the Model X and it s relationship to the Model S. Family. A mass production vehicle for $35 000 has to be the workhorse of a family to achieve any form of success. So it must adequately seat 5 people with plenty of storage cup holders storage USB plugs etc. It needs to at least match a normal family car. Battery. Inline with the first point on simplicity I think Tesla has learnt the keep it simple principle now. This means that S X and 3 all have to share the same battery module packs so in my mind this means a similar floor pan and layout. The design can t be too radical without losing too much floor battery space. I think it s reasonable to expect that Model 3s will be available in battery sizes all the way up to 85kWh noting that it s expected that they ll use increased density modules so maybe starting at 60kWh to achieve the 200 mile base. Finally why not? The Model S is a great looking vehicle. I don t want some outlandish weird mobile either Keep it simple. Let me use it for 10 years without all the gadgets breaking. Let s just remember how quickly tech gets out of date these days. Thoughts: Wheel covers look horrendous by almost anyones measure but what if wheel covers deployed only when you were driving above xx speed? This might break rule simplicity rule but it also might help with achieving the drag coefficient. Of course the number given by Elon is just an arbitrary figure that is really a goal more than anything. It s not as if anything magical happens when your vehicle is below this number. | Strood | 2016-01-23 03:42:43 | 15 | cz8ptfr | I think it will be similar to the Model S is appearance but under the hood will be something else all together. Elon has said they are working on an entirely new battery and motor architecture. * We already know the gigafactory cells are a larger geometry and possibly with more silicon. This necessitates a different cooling architecture and pack design. * Here is a [link](https: www.teslamotors.com blog induction-versus-dc-brushless-motors) about Tesla and alternative motor designs. * During a relatively recent Q& A (couldn t find it on [shitelonsays](http: shitelonsays.com )) a woman asks about the 3. Elon says it will be heavily inspired by the S it what it delivers to the owner. I take this to mean aesthetics performance coolness general enjoyment. * The only thing altering the appearance will be drag considerations: It is not hard to make a moon disc wheel look good which based on the old aero wheels could add 10+ miles of range for a couple dollars worth of metal. Since Model 3 will be shipping with autopilot v2 hardware I suspect the side mirrors will be very small and their function replaced with a robust blind spot warning on day 1. Using the floor plate as a passive thermal radiator could allow for much smaller air intakes (intakes may not be even located at the front thats a leftover from ice engines). All told 0.20 Cd doesn t require extremeness it requires determined engineering. Edit: This [car](https: upload.wikimedia.org wikipedia commons 3 35 Tatra_77A_dutch_licence_registration_AM-44-01_pic10.JPG) has a Cd of 0.195. It looks weird. But if you look closely the headlights bumper front wheel well angle of windshield in relation to the hood exposed windshield wipers and door handles are all areas that can be improved in terms of airflow. The Model 3 just needs to ace all the easy stuff while having a good thermal management system and its set from a drag perspective. | EVMasterRace | 2016-01-23 06:26:32 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
da4jnz | A collection of new Smart Summon Videos | 1) https: www.youtube.com watch?v=WZFR40WL6ec 2) https: www.youtube.com watch?v=WeyE38W2_CE 3) https: www.youtube.com watch?v=x4G4uRT8ZXY 4) https: www.youtube.com watch?v=BPZYYb8paLA 5) https: www.youtube.com watch?v=9cuJATedvDk 6) https: www.youtube.com watch?v=y3PaM5GVneE 7) https: www.youtube.com watch?v=tDkL7VPVi9A This one has some bonus content: 8) https: www.youtube.com watch?v=gN3lwo-XiGg | Droi | 2019-09-27 18:34:39 | 77 | f1n708f | Finally downloading mine now too. FSD ‘Advanced Set HW 2.5 East Coast | 110110 | 2019-09-27 18:53:47 | 22 | Smart Summon Limitations |
ddg070 | A creak rattle in driver s side dash. | https: youtu.be EJ-kqLLOSnQ Just spoke to another new M3 owner with the same creak you can hear in the video above. It seems to come from the dash near the air vents or steering column. I have an appointment Monday to get the car checked out but curious if there is anyone else with this same sound. POSSIBLE FIX: I have been able to fix the issue with what is now an ugly solution. I m still not 100% sure whether the creak is coming from the plastic cowling around the steering wheel or the wood dash trim but putting pressure on these surfaces makes the creak go away. First fold a hand towel so it s about a 1 2” thick. Move the steering wheel down enough so that you can wedge the folded towel between the steering wheel and dash. Move the steering wheel back up. I have the towel thick enough so the dash gets pushed up just slightly by the time the steering wheel is in the upper position. In the end it will look like this... https: imgur.com gallery SZlVH1f If anyone else tries and it works please let me know. Please also let me know if you can think of a good looking fix. Others have mentioned the SC put felt tape on the steering wheel only for the noise to return. The creak seems to need pressure to be eliminated. EDIT: I ve replaced the towel with black weather stripping: https: www.lowes.com pd M-D-10-ft-x-1-1-4-in-Black-Window-Seal-Rubber-Window-Weatherstrip 3120623 | SplitFire | 2019-10-05 00:19:36 | 15 | f2gsm6n | Yes. Front driver side by the vents. I can t for the life of me figure out where. It s not always on though it pops up every so often | tenthirtyten | 2019-10-05 00:22:46 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8xz5zo | A crowd sourced live website that tracks health of supercharger stalls | Until Tesla offers such a live solution is there a unofficial solution that is easy to use? or as a community can we develop one where we can submit just like Gas Buddy charge rate at each stalls of supercharger. This summer is running a havoc on a lot of those.. | sameerb | 2018-07-11 12:31:50 | 20 | e26srkg | The PlugShare community seems to be pretty informative when they check in to a stall and give you their charging details. | kirbyCUBE | 2018-07-11 13:02:01 | 11 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
94lqmv | A deep appreciation for summon | Our parking garage has a wall to one side and columns to the other. When parking forward the passenger side doors will not fully open because of the wall and the rear driver side door will not fully open because of the column. When driving without passengers this isn t a problem as the driver side door can fully open. When there are passengers we have to choose between a contortionist act to enter the car or backing the car out by about 8-10 feet so that all doors can fully open. We have two small children who are both too young to be loose in the garage around cars. When we travel as a family it s easy enough - my wife holds the kids while I back out and then we put the kids in the car. When it s one adult and both kids entering and exiting the car is an unbelievably difficult exercise. Enter summon. I can now push a button while keeping the kids near me and the car backs out enough so that all of the doors fully open. Similarly for exiting I get the kids out before parking and push a button to move the car forward. I can t express just how big this feature is for us. It s now no longer a painful chore for one of us to get in and out of the car with both kids. | xqze6m6ogWo | 2018-08-04 19:29:08 | 64 | e3m1wfn | I have a very tight parking space at home and have been anxiously awaiting the Summon update. I *finally* got the 26.3 update today (coming from 21.9) and gave Summon a try and it worked just as I had hoped it would. Now I won t have to squirm my way out of a tight parking space every day :D | nstruct | 2018-08-04 20:57:48 | 14 | Tesla phone key functionality |
e4q56t | A deep discussion about superficial handling | My MR 3 is the nicest car I ve ever owned but after getting a couple loaner model Ss I am wondering if there is an issue with the suspension or something. I was given an 18 75D in both cases and found it much more confident while cornering on the highway. Is this to be expected as a result of being AWD? The difference was noticeable which surprised me because I wasn t watching out for it. I feel more body lean and the precision isn t there. Sometimes the car makes funny noises while I m parking (creaking clunk) and then I m not able to show the service center because it is so unpredictable. Am I experiencing an issue with the front end that is compromising handling? Should the RWD 3 handle noticeably better than facelifted AWD S or about the same or worse? | workrelatedstuffs | 2019-12-01 23:51:04 | 12 | f9ezhw1 | Our S generally feels more planted where our 3 can feel bouncy jittery on less than perfect roads. It could be the extra 1 000 lbs the S is carrying around. The steering on our S has a much slower ratio than our 3. Some would say it s imprecise and requires a lot of input to make the boat change direction but I think it feels more relaxed to drive. | ThaiTum | 2019-12-02 03:00:02 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
d5mgs5 | A deer running into the side of our Model 3 is not the way I wanted my day to start. | [Our poor car](https: imgur.com sru8p94) I dropped our kiddo off at school and was on the way home when a deer decided it wanted to jump out of the woods and play bumper cars. I guess luckily it hit the side of me rather than me hitting it head on. Front passenger window is shattered front passenger door is heavily damaged scrapes to the rear passenger door passenger headlight is broken passenger mirror came out of the housing. Car is still drivable (although not safely without a window and broken headlight) and overall I feel held up quite well. I m definitely happy with the safety factor of the vehicle. Biggest problem is that the closest approved body shop is 3 hours away and that it will likely take a month or 2 for repairs to be complete. Meanwhile apparently our insurance doesn t cover rental reimbursement. Fun times. Almost wishing it had been totaled to take the insurance payout and apply the equity towards a Model X that I ve had my eye on. | ooryl2 | 2019-09-17 20:09:55 | 37 | f0mra0o | This is why everyone needs to look at what their insurance policy covers and not just choose the cheapest thing in the world. Also how is this any sort of testament to the cars safety? It was a deer. Any new car would probably look exactly the same. | feurie | 2019-09-17 20:16:27 | 41 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
jtxhks | A definitive Tesla Model 3 review after two years of ownership and a cross-country road trip | & #x200B [Tesla Model 3 LR AWD and Cross Country Road Trip \(2800+ miles 12 states 30 Superchargers\)](https: preview.redd.it 1g2l19xyb5z51.png?width=1024& format=png& auto=webp& s=13abd60beebc9667a41cf6ade1a7e27eeb32a882) After completing a [cross-country road trip](https: startupsidekick.com roadtrip ) in my two-year old Tesla Model 3 I fell in love with it all over again and knew I had to write a post about it. In my opinion Tesla hasn t just revolutionized the electrical vehicle (EV) industry it has reinvented the car as I will show you in this (highly biased) post. Whether you re in the market for a Tesla are an existing owner or are simply curious about EVs I hope you ll get some value from this post. *You ll see why comparing a Tesla to most cars today is like comparing a smartphone to a flip phone — it s really that big of a difference.* If you don t know much about how EVs work I highly recommend watching this popular 10-minute YouTube video titled [How does an Electric Car work?](https: youtu.be 3SAxXUIre28) — it s a bit technical but overall worth a one-time watch to understand why EVs are the future. It s no surprise the [EV market is expected to reach over $800 billion by 2027](https: www.globenewswire.com news-release 2020 06 08 2045017 0 en Electric-Vehicle-Market-to-Reach-802-81-Billion-Globally-by-2027-Allied-Market-Research.html)! In this post we ll take a tour of the following aspects of a Tesla Model 3: 1. App 2. Exterior 3. Interior 4. Driving 5. Charging 6. Safety 7. Maintenance 8. Community 9. Cost 10. Improvements Here we go. # 1. App Before describing the car itself I want to begin with one of the most convenient aspects of owning a Tesla: the [Tesla mobile app](https: www.tesla.com support tesla-app). This serves as your primary car key and provides many remote control features. The mobile app automatically unlocks and locks the Tesla 3 doors using bluetooth — this short-distance keyless access is extremely convenient because it s hands-free (e.g. phone in pocket) and eliminates having to carry a physical car key. Tesla does provide key FOBs but in the two years of owning my car I ve only used them for valet parking or as a backup in my wallet in case my phone dies. [Tesla Mobile App](https: preview.redd.it kfttx215c5z51.png?width=1660& format=png& auto=webp& s=baf0fe3485fc47786c9451b54c77971473121d4a) The Tesla mobile app complements the interior touchscreen by giving you many controls outside the car. The long list of remote control features include lock unlock doors trunks turning on the climate control charging valet mode honk flash to locate the car set speed limit…and more. You can even use the Summon feature to slowly drive the car in reverse or forward — think remote control toy cars — this can come in handy for water puddles or tight garages. Other neat features include the ability to send an address to your car from maps apps such as Apple and Google Maps (via the share option). You can even locate where your car is parked using the app. These types of pragmatic modern day tech features is what sets Tesla apart from all other car manufacturers. # 2. Exterior The Tesla 3 is a sleek looking four door sedan which drives like an expensive sports car. [Tesla Model 3 - Exterior \\ Frunk\\ and Trunk](https: preview.redd.it uy7iz358c5z51.png?width=1600& format=png& auto=webp& s=5da5efb1ea1881018099bcfcef0691bfb566febc) The doors have unique flush handles that are aerodynamically designed to reduce drag. You ll have to get used to giving one time instructions to first time users such as “push the fat then pull the skinny.“ Tesla 3 comes with two trunks a conventional rear trunk and an innovative front trunk (“frunk”). I find the frunk extremely useful for small bags (e.g. groceries) since the incline keeps the bags from sliding around. I used to get strange looks when I opened the frunk but people seem to be getting used to it thanks to a growing number of Teslas on the road. The rear trunk also has lots of room with an additional compartment under the trunk s floor. You can also fold the rear seats down for longer objects (e.g. skis) I was able to fit a hybrid bicycle in there once. # 3. Interior When people get inside a Tesla 3 for the first time they are often taken aback by how bare the interior is. https: preview.redd.it p90lcimdc5z51.png?width=1600& format=png& auto=webp& s=3a3260a6f764ff02a44a7bab54f538e3bb50a268 Then…they slowly begin to get wowed by how many features are packed in the deceptively minimalistic interior. The Tesla 3 can comfortably seat five people with heating in all seats. It has more legroom than conventional internal combustion engine (gasoline) cars since there s no transmission hump in EVs. [Tesla Model 3 Minimalist Interior](https: preview.redd.it 53ivrykfc5z51.png?width=1600& format=png& auto=webp& s=be5d5c353bd3c02357834b595257dcd53f553815) With the rear seats folded down there s enough space to fit a twin size airbed — I have read about people sleeping overnight in their Teslas at campgrounds. The Tesla 3 has your basics: seats air vents several cup holders multiple storage compartments USB and 12v chargers door locks and window controls (auto retract for all four windows). At the center of the front panel is a single gorgeous 15-inch extremely responsive touchscreen to operate everything else (including the glovebox) — essentially your control center. [Touchscreen](https: preview.redd.it ibtj0iekc5z51.png?width=673& format=png& auto=webp& s=c284c34457d8f3273f71885e01084cc3be9e06cb) Getting used to having everything on a single screen takes only minutes to get comfortable with since most of us use mobile devices these days so it s a familiar feel. I ve personally fallen in love with the single touchscreen concept since it feels like using a tablet (e.g. iPad) and gives the car a more airy feel without the clutter of knobs you find in most cars. It s baffling to me that other car manufacturers haven t realized the simple fact that consumers love their smartphones since most cars still have a fragmented instrumentation dashboard. Apple CarPlay and Android Auto support helps but it still doesn t provide an integrated smartphone-like user experience (Ux) — imagine if you had part knobs and part touchscreen to operate your smartphone! [Settings](https: preview.redd.it 5yxbf7rmc5z51.png?width=1024& format=png& auto=webp& s=ed3101efca451a127a8d83b45ae4f68f5cefadcd) The 15-inch touchscreen provides you access to many features almost too many to cover in detail in this post so I ll list them instead: * Speedometer * Door lock unlock * Settings (glovebox lights locks display driving Full Self-Driving (FSD) Autopilot navigation safety service software etc.) * Climate control * Wiper control * Backup camera * Navigation: Everything you can expect from a mapping app with comprehensive supercharger network support built in. The satellite view is amazingly responsive! * Battery level settings and consumption * USB connectivity charging and 12V charging * Objects nearby (cars trucks motorcycles signs people traffic lights lane markings) * Dashcam – record video footage on a USB drive using Tesla s external cameras (see video at the end of this post) * Custom driver profiles * Manual automatic garage opener via HomeLink * Sentry alarm system * Tire pressure * Incoming phone calls * Seat belt warnings [Netflix - Full Screen](https: preview.redd.it 2jxkzv8pc5z51.png?width=1600& format=png& auto=webp& s=9735ace7db3cecf11e10ee0c030abea234259b2f) Then…there s a whole section on the screen dedicated to apps including: * Web browser * Calendar (integrated with your phone with auto navigation) * Entertainment (with full-screen support) including Netflix YouTube Hulu Caraoke (with a “C”) Atari arcade games drawing tool fullscreen campfire and more. With so many entertainment options you will have to find reasons to get bored on supercharger stops. The Tesla air vents provide ample control via the touchscreen with some very cool graphics to change the airflow direction by “pinching” the air animation. [Climate Control](https: preview.redd.it 8v70m6xrc5z51.png?width=1600& format=png& auto=webp& s=74ee23270b9d3ce10af672b4cb13e64ebeee008e) The steering wheel comes with scrolling wheels that serve multiple purposes for example controlling the music volume track cruise speed side mirrors steering column tilt and soft hard rebooting the car. It also has a built in sensor to detect whether your hands are on the steering wheel during FSD (see below). [Steering Wheel Controls](https: preview.redd.it pijsznytc5z51.png?width=451& format=png& auto=webp& s=dcbdaeb8125fdf59f47d5b331ac48f1aac962194) Of course you get all of the above….under a wondrous panoramic tinted glass roof that inspires you to daydream in the daytime and stargaze at night. [Tesla Model 3 - Glass Roof](https: preview.redd.it 3n14ifzwc5z51.png?width=4160& format=png& auto=webp& s=8a47455a716959f4debbae87e16c4df805178f7b) # 4. Driving The Model 3 is extremely quiet fun to drive nimble on turns and accelerates fast enough to make people s heartthrob and say “wow!” Imagine having the acceleration of an expensive sports car with the feel of a golf cart — that s what driving a Tesla feels like. As of November 2020 here were the 0 to 60 MPH speeds for the three Tesla 3 models (with the ability to go faster via a paid upgrade): * Standard Range Plus: 5.3s 0-60 MPH Top speed 140 MPH * Long Range AWD (my car): 4.2s 0-60 MPH Top speed 145 MPH * Performance: 3.1s 0-60 MPH Top speed 162 MPH To begin driving a Tesla 3 you turn it on by putting your foot on the brake pedal and turn it off by putting the car in park — there s no “cranking” the car on or shifting the gear in park and pressing a STOP button — it s essentially like turning your smartphone on and off. Sometimes at a complete stop in my garage or parking spot I ll forget to put my car in park before opening the door — but no worries the car automatically puts it in park for you. Tesla also automatically engages the emergency brakes when you park your car. It s these little conveniences that Tesla has thought of which make the Tesla so much fun to own. While parking reversing (e.g. in a tight garage) it helps to see a readout of exact measurement and audio visual warnings for objects close by. [Tesla Nearby Objects Warning and Backup Camera](https: preview.redd.it uelevt60d5z51.png?width=1024& format=png& auto=webp& s=fb07a01e970636e0d8196606c2ab42867a860aaa) When you first use the accelerator pedal on a Tesla 3 it feels like you re pressing against pure air since it s so quiet but the highly responsive induction motor makes it a lot of fun to go from 0 to 60 MPH (4.4s in my car)! I absolutely love how quiet my Tesla drives. EVs in general are very quiet under 30 MPH in fact so quiet that many countries will soon require sound emitters in EVs for pedestrian and bicyclist safety. Though the Tesla 3 is a sedan the large battery in the center gives it the weight and low center of gravity making it more nimble than many sports cars I ve owned before. [Tesla Model 3 Battery](https: preview.redd.it gk9bcx5dd5z51.png?width=1600& format=png& auto=webp& s=70a778a8d13c1914d0a029c882ccbc01be552ce0) **Single Pedal Driving** One of the coolest features of the Tesla is “single pedal driving” using a technology called Regenerative Braking (Regen for short [see Wikipedia for details](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Regenerative_brake)). When you let go of the accelerator Regen enables your car to slow down rapidly while also charging your battery. My brake usage has reduced by 80% compared to conventional cars. For example you can have the car slow down quickly for turns or gradually come to a complete halt at stop signs without having to use the brakes. Tesla provides an automatic brake HOLD function that enables your car to stay at a complete stop without you having to keep your foot on the brake (e.g. at a red light). This HOLD feature also automatically engages when the car slows down to 0 MPH. The HOLD function complements regenerative braking since you can let go of the accelerator while approaching a red light and have the car come to a complete stop without having to use the brake pedal (i.e. single pedal driving). **FSD Autopilot** If you ve seen the 2004 movie “I Robot” starring Will Smith (as Detective Del Spooner) there s a scene after he crashes a car when his lieutenant yells this at him: “What is the matter with you? Traffic Ops tells me you re driving your car **manually**.” We are as close to fully autonomous cars as we ve ever been in our lifetime. There are [five levels to autonomous vehicles](https: www.truecar.com blog 5-levels-autonomous-vehicles ): 1. Driver Assistance 2. Partial Automation 3. Conditional Automation 4. High Automation 5. Full Automation Tesla currently has Level 2 in its cars but has already demonstrated Level 3 in this [popular two-minute YouTube video by Tesla](https: youtu.be tlThdr3O5Qo). However even just Level 2 FSD is one of the coolest features in the car since it significantly reduces the driver fatigue. [FSD - Highway \(Utah\) Night \(Tahoe\) and Golden Gate Bridge \(San Francisco\)](https: preview.redd.it kisd9wild5z51.png?width=1600& format=png& auto=webp& s=11204de40d8ba854aed880f87be5684a7798a730) FSD is a suite of features including Traffic-Aware Cruise Control Autosteer Navigate on Autopilot Auto Lane Change and others (e.g. Autopark Traffic and Stop Sign Control). FSD literally saves you so much driving that at times you feel like you re babysitting the car by just leaving one hand on the steering wheel with your feet lounging. I tell friends driving with FSD feels like playing a video game in a comfortable lounge chair where you have to pay enough attention to not die but you re enjoying every minute of it. I use FSD anywhere and everywhere there are visible lane markings from 25 MPH street to 80 MPH highway speed zones. This technology keeps getting better with every software update — I ve literally seen how it handles so much better over the past year around things like construction areas. You can engage just Autopilot (Traffic-Aware Cruise Control) by pressing the cruise control lever fully down once. To engage the full FSD you press the lever down twice — this activates Traffic-Aware Cruise Control Autosteer Navigate on Autopilot and Auto Lane Change. Let s take a closer look at how FSD works. [According to Tesla s website](https: www.tesla.com autopilot) “Eight surround cameras provide 360 degrees of visibility around the car at up to 250 meters of range. Twelve updated ultrasonic sensors complement this vision allowing for detection of both hard and soft objects at nearly twice the distance of the prior system. A forward-facing radar with enhanced processing provides additional data about the world on a redundant wavelength that is able to see through heavy rain fog dust and even the car ahead.” & #x200B [FSD - Cameras Auto Lane Change](https: preview.redd.it 8pxjibmpd5z51.png?width=1044& format=png& auto=webp& s=d69549ef1e372db0409597dce71b2b2df0b335f5) The Auto Lane Change feature is amazing and I absolutely love using it each time! You change lanes by simply giving the turn signal and let your car do the rest i.e. the car will automatically change lanes when it s safe. While doing my cross-country road trip I came up with two supplemental terms to *Auto Lane Change:* * *Delayed Auto Lane Change:* When you know you can t change lanes due to traffic you can go ahead and “queue” your lane change request and the Model 3 will change lanes when safe. * *Accelerated Auto Lane Change*: When you don t want to wait so you speed up to create a safe distance between the cars which triggers Tesla to change lanes. FSD requires you to have your hands on the steering wheel every 20-30 seconds — I rest my left or right hand on the bottom part of the steering wheel to avoid getting the warnings but I ve heard of people using their legs water bottles and other crazy ways to fool Tesla s FSD into thinking your hands are on the wheel. I m a bit embarrassed to be boastful about this but I ve come to rely so much on FSD that depending on surrounding traffic I ll work on my mobile device momentarily (e.g. editing documents instant messages quick web browsing). I feel irresponsible and guilty but part of me thinks this is how we ll gradually move to FSD…a couple of seconds at a time. While I absolutely LOVE FSD and use it for 80% of my driving (highway local) I can t see a door-to-door FSD till 2022 or later due to factors including Tesla s technology roads (e.g. lane marketings) and legislation. Tesla s FSD technology is already phenomenal and getting better rapidly but it has quirks that still gives me (and my family) a scare every now and then — enough for me to pay attention to the road. You can learn more about Tesla s FSD technology here: [tesla.com autopilotAI](https: www.tesla.com autopilotAI). # 5. Charging One of the things people worry about with fully electric cars is running out of charge — after two years of ownership and a cross-country road trip I can assure you this has rarely been a problem for me. Many of my friends can t believe I still charge on 120v after 2 years of owning my car! I realize it s extremely inefficient but we were considering moving and I just haven t felt the need for it since I work from home. 120v (Level 1) charges at a pathetic 5 MPH but you can get 50+ miles overnight. 240v (Level 2) chargers charge between 10-50 MPH and direct current faster chargers (Level 3) such as the Tesla s superchargers can charge from a couple hundred to 1 000 MPH (using the new [V3 Supercharging](https: www.tesla.com blog introducing-v3-supercharging)). [Tesla Supercharger Network and Three Levels of Charging \(source: pluglesspower.com\)](https: preview.redd.it cr86kfv3h5z51.png?width=912& format=png& auto=webp& s=aacfb81110e23ec437a28663e7e1702fdf0ce7f2) [According to Tesla s website](https: www.tesla.com supercharger) as of November 2020 there were 2 000+ Supercharger stations (20 000+ Supercharger outlets) worldwide with many more coming soon. Of course you can always use 3rd party chargers or use the charging cable and adapter that comes with the Tesla. [According to Statistica](https: www.statista.com statistics 416750 number-of-electric-vehicle-charging-stations-outlets-united-states ) there were over 24 000 charging stations (with over 78 000 outlets) in the US as of September 2020. # 6. Safety Tesla cars have the honor of receiving some of the highest safety ratings possible thanks to their driver passenger protection (e.g. airbags rollover alerts). For example here s a graphic from Tesla s website showing all 5-star ratings for a Tesla Model 3 from National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). [Tesla NHTSA Rating and Model 3 Airbags](https: preview.redd.it l9w64qhye5z51.png?width=1069& format=png& auto=webp& s=9056a6f032ca329d1a68b021dfb792b0d3b87779) From close by objects in your garage to objects on the highway Tesla 3 has you covered with alerts. While driving Tesla constantly detects surrounding objects and displays them on the touchscreen (e.g. car trucks motorcycles people stop lights lane markings). Any endangering aspects will show up in red (e.g. lane changes passing cars). # 7. Maintenance EVs in general require much less maintenance than internal combustion automobiles. Tesla maintenance comes mostly in the form of software. Tesla updates the software in the car automatically every month or so. If you re new to a Tesla it takes a little getting used to receiving software updates similar to your smartphone or computer. Till this day I find it fascinating that Tesla cars are just as much software (or more) as they are hardware. [Tesla Software Updates and Mobile Service](https: preview.redd.it grlurej2f5z51.png?width=1069& format=png& auto=webp& s=1473748eb4852dffe936982a60541e118886bcf4) Tesla is also known to roll out some significant improvements via software updates — something you would expect to take your car in for (e.g. an acceleration boost from 4.4 to 3.9 seconds). Much of any hardware maintenance can be done via Tesla s mobile service where someone comes out to wherever you want. For example I just had my two-year service done for $192.05 in my driveway (see [Tesla s Car Maintenance page](https: www.tesla.com support car-maintenance) for details) with the following note in the electronic invoice: > *“Checked Brake Fluid Brake Fluid at 80% life. Replaced Pair of Wiper Blades. Replaced Cabin Filter. Maintenance Performed Tire Rotation on Passengers side only Drivers side tires are good where they are right now. Recommend new pass front tire soon.”* All other major services can be handled at one of Tesla s [Service Centers](https: www.tesla.com findus list services United%20States) by scheduling via the mobile app. In my area they tend to be booked 2 to 4 weeks out but the service otherwise is courteous and efficient handled using a combination of SMS texts in person and email communications and generous Uber Lyft credits to get around. One thing I ve found to be a pain is when you have a flat tire — the 18″ tires used on a Tesla 3 can be expensive and hard to find since they have acoustic foam inside them. This was the #1 concern on my mind while traveling on my cross-country road trip. # 8. Community Unsurprisingly Tesla has a huge fan base including online social networks offline clubs third party apps and much more. The following are some popular clubs and third-party apps that I ve come across and or use regularly. **Clubs** 1. Reddit: [r Teslamotors](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors ) [r TeslaModel3](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaModel3 ) [r TeslaLounge](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaLounge ) [r TeslaCam](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaCam ) 2. Forums: [Official Tesla Forums](https: forums.tesla.com ) [Tesla Owners Online](https: teslaownersonline.com ) [Tesla Motors Club](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc forums model-3.137 ) [SpeakEV Tesla Model 3](https: www.speakev.com forums tesla-model-3 ) 3. News: [Teslarati.com](https: www.teslarati.com ) [Electrek](https: electrek.co guides tesla ) [CleanTechnica](https: cleantechnica.com tag tesla ) **Apps** Before my cross-country road trip I decided to hook up my Tesla account to three northworthy third-party apps that many online EV Tesla enthusiasts seemed to be recommending: 1. [Teslafi](https: www.teslafi.com index.php?search=2020-08-14): Logs data for all your drives with amazing detail (e.g. graphs battery consumption maps charging stops). 2. [A Better Route Planner (ABRP)](https: abetterrouteplanner.com ?plan_uuid=99b25e8f-60a4-4cb4-90fa-f42b107793f3): Popular app used for more precise planning based on your EVs model. 3. [Stats](https: apps.apple.com us app stats-for-tesla-model-s-x-3 id1191100729): Provides several bells & whistles for Apple mobile devices (iPhone iPad Watch) e.g. schedule climate charging open doors trunks via Siri monitor battery health and more. It was a bit nerve-wracking to give my username and password to these apps but once you have an authentication key from one of them you can use that for the others. Advanced users with coding skills can use the [unofficial Tesla JSON API](https: tesla-api.timdorr.com ) to obtain an authentication key or use [Teslamate](https: github.com adriankumpf teslamate) a self-hosted data logger with dashboards for driving charging efficiency drain stats and much more. Once you re setup with these apps the amazing data they provide makes the whole process worthwhile as you can see from some of the screenshots below. [Third Party Tesla Apps](https: preview.redd.it lcysj747f5z51.png?width=1408& format=png& auto=webp& s=bf8ff9e5568b408e912033272496d67fc030f399) **Aftermarket** There are plenty of aftermarket products for Tesla available on various websites. I ve only purchased two aftermarket products: a Qi wireless phone charger and a spare tire kit by Modern Spare. # 9. Cost As of November 2020 here were the list prices for the three versions of a Tesla Model 3 in the US: 1. Standard Range Plus: $37 990 (range 263 miles) 2. Long Range: $46 990 (353 miles) 3. Performance: $54 990 (315 miles) FSD costs an extra $10 000. If you re considering buying any kind of EV you can calculate the cost per mile by dividing its list price by its maximum range. For example a Tesla Model 3 Long Range at a list price of $46 990 and range of 353 miles costs $133 mile as shown in the below infographic from [visualcapitalist.com](https: www.visualcapitalist.com range-evs-major-highway-routes ). One thing to keep in mind when comparing prices is that Tesla is years ahead of its competition with its innovative technology and supercharger network — something that s hard to put an exact value on. [Cost of EV Ownership \(source: visualcapitalist.com\)](https: preview.redd.it 6vq5v7v9f5z51.png?width=1200& format=png& auto=webp& s=7a225532b1be4a97fbae76406afe514736760acf) # 10. Improvements I ve owned some nice cars in my lifetime but never have I owned a car that I loved driving so much every single day as much as I have my Tesla Model 3. Tesla is as close to perfect as a car gets but it can use some tweaks so here s a list of flaws and or wishes: 1. **Alerts:** The on screen blind spot warnings aren t good enough most people have come to expect something built into the side mirrors. 2. **Wipers:** Tesla s automatic wipers were horrible but since [Tesla launched its ‘Deep Rain neural network](https: electrek.co 2019 10 14 tesla-deep-rain-neural-net-automatic-wipers ) they have improved over the past year but still remain slightly flaky (e.g. turning on a couple of times when it s not raining). 3. **Voice:** Support for voice commands is weak and nowhere as robust as Apple Siri or Google Assistant which can be frustrating since I often have to turn to my iPhone (e.g. calling a local restaurant). 4. **Lights:** It would be nice to have shortcuts to turn the head park lights on off instead of going into Settings. 5. **Map:** Tesla s map is absolutely amazing but it s missing waypoints so you end up having to use something like the ABRP app (discussed above). Also It would be great to see icons for what s nearby (e.g. restaurants service stations) similar to supercharger icons. 6. **FSD:** Traffic-Aware Cruise Control is overcautious e.g. it ll keep 3 to 6 cars worth of distance versus the 1 car I have it set at. Also given the choice between tracking using the left and right lanes FSD chooses to hug the right side which is extremely annoying on highways (e.g. merging from on-ramps). Approaching stopped traffic at a red light on a major road can be nerve-wracking since the car waits too long to begin gracefully slowing down thereby requiring harsher faster braking later. The merging on and off ramp with construction barrels needs improvement. 7. **Battery:** The remaining battery life isn t 100% accurate to rely on entirely since it doesn t take into account leakage winter weather winds etc. It can be nerve-wracking when you think you have 20% just to find it s dropped to 15% (and dropping). 8. **Apps:** While it was great to be able to hook up third party apps it would be nice if Tesla officially sanctioned them via some sort of an online marketplace and support for API keys. It would also be cool to add more 3rd party apps support e.g. Waze Amazon Prime Apple CarPlay Android Auto). Lastly it takes too long to load the existing apps (e.g. Netflix YouTube). 9. **Music:** The music icon should be indicative of the map feature or the music and maps screens need to be separated. The music portion of the screen allows resizing but blocks the directions in larger view. The music screen should provide more granular controls for track and display the time for songs (e.g. time left played). There s no way to pause mute the radio on the screen (you have to use the wheel on the steering wheel). Lastly the Spotify interface is flaky (e.g. long load times checkmark is confusing). 10. **Tires:** I realize many cars nowadays do not include spare tires but it would be nice if Tesla provided third party options on your website similar to how Apple Google have marketplaces with reviews for third party products (e.g. Spare Tire Kit by Modern Spare). Of course Tesla does offer [roadside assistance service](https: www.tesla.com roadside-assistance). 11. **Superchargers:** It would be nice to have a tall physical Tesla sign at supercharging stops since it can be hard to find charging stations in places like shopping centers. A nice trick is to zoom in the destination using the satellite view of the map. 12. **Service:** It can take from a couple to a few weeks to get a service appointment. I suspect some of the backlog is due to the [issues earlier models had](https: www.bloomberg.com graphics 2019-tesla-model-3-survey ). I had one major and a couple of minor issues early on (steering wheel replacement door hinges) which were covered under factory warranty and addressed quickly by Tesla. 13. **Miscellaneous:** Having to reboot occasionally and or rare black screen. Inside door opening controls can be confusing for first timers since they look like window controls. Better adjustable seat headrest that don t stick out so much. Rear windshield wipers to avoid water build up. # Conclusion As detailed as this review is I haven t covered many features for example Navigate on Autopilot Autopark Lane Assist chime on green traffic light automatic high beam driver profiles and so much more. Additionally Tesla continuously delivers features so it s not feasible to list everything here. For example the beta version of the completely rewritten FSD [began rolling out in October 2020](https: electrek.co 2020 10 20 tesla-full-self-driving-beta-rollout-elon-musk-slow-cautious ). For more information on software updates and other great resources visit [tesla.com support](https: www.tesla.com support). In my opinion Tesla is years ahead of anything comparable on the market currently thanks to their technology customer data supercharger network battery life customer service and more. Tesla has reinvented the car and thought of so many conveniences (e.g. single pedal driving auto unlock lock doors low maintenance) that it makes it a pleasure to drive and own this car every single day. Even long distance driving feels more like an enjoyable journey rather than a chore. If you re considering buying a Tesla 3 do it. Imagine driving the car of the future today! \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ & #x200B *Thanks for reading! If you enjoyed this post please share it :)* *To see supplemental M3 review videos please checkout the* [*original post*](https: startupsidekick.com the-definitive-tesla-model-3-review-own-the-future-today )* I was unable to fit everything here due to Reddit s limitations.* | startupsidekik | 2020-11-14 06:42:41 | 90 | gc8f454 | > as “put the thumb on the fat part of the handle and open with the rest of your hand.“ Best described as “push the fat then pull the skinny” | strontal | 2020-11-14 06:58:49 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
cnsy93 | A delivery experience review from a Tesla realist + a question for the community | I ve been a Tesla fan for some time now and recently took delivery of a P3D-. The car is everything I hoped it would be and leagues better than anything on the market. But I realize these cars don t have the best build quality and along those lines it hasn t been without its issues. Delivery day: pickup was simple but we did uncover issues that they said would be fixed. **Here are the issues I we came across before we drove off**: **1.** 2 rims were scratched and dented - they replaced both **2.** The back seat showed a 1 gap between the seat and bench seat on just one side - tech said it s within margin but when I brought it back to SC for other issues they said that s bad and fixed it **3.** Windshield wiper fluid was spraying all over the A-pillar hood and side-view mirrors (apparently there was contaminated fluid that was causing the issue and they say they ve fixed it) **4.** An incessant creaking sound coming from the driver side panel next to your leg while driving (they said they lubricated the seal so should be fixed) Issues that happened after pickup: **5.** MCU crashed while driving with screen completely frozen (not black like others reported) cruise control disengaging without notice and a super loud weird frequency noise blaring out of speakers. Pulled over reset MCU and no issues after that but have only driven 200 miles (100 after that issue). They said it was a hardware software conflict which required a reset **6.** Upon pickup from the service center I noticed a 30 inch crack going up the entire windshield with a big chip that caused at the bottom of windshield. They didn t notice this somehow and said it must have happened while fixing the windshield wiper fluid issue. They are now replacing the windshield. **Would you guys return this car?** I obviously love it but concerned if these issues are a sign of more to come so wanted to get some input. I don t have a loan so a return would be seamless. Thanks | thermal10 | 2019-08-08 22:13:30 | 22 | ewdlgzd | You have any photos? | 110110 | 2019-08-08 22:19:10 | 9 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
85ajxa | A detailed review of Model 3 from a M3 owner. | Context: I m currently a happy owner of an [F80 M3](https: i.imgur.com kplaltD.jpg) and over the years I ve owned a [F30 335i](https: i.imgur.com edTsvFR.jpg) and an E92 335i. I ve driven pretty much all the cars in this segment namely the BMW 3-series the C43 AMG the Audi S4 and S5 and the new Alfa Romeo Giulia. Well today I was able to borrow [this baby](https: imgur.com qFXj4Nq) and spent a day driving it on mountain roads within San Francisco and cruise it down 101. Here are my impressions. I m going to score individual categories relative to other competitors in this class so I won t be rating the Model 3 s cost against a Civic its luxury against a S class or its handling against a 911. **Drivetrain (9 10):** Modern ICE drivetrains are quite good especially in the premium sports sedan segment. Max torque reached at very low RPM from the new turbo engines silky smooth shift from the ZF-8 gearboxes and some of them even manage to sound good (i e C43 AMG). But the Model 3 beats pretty much all competitors in these categories (ok maybe not sound) with 0-30 performance that feels as fast as my M3. Instant max torque at 0 rpm and no gear shift makes this car a performance star around town especially in local driving. One point is deducted due to Model 3 s power torque falls off quite noticeably at around 55 mph and above. Still not slow by any means but do lag behind some of the competitors in this segment. **Steering (8 10):** The Model 3 has really direct steering that s quite nicely weighted (more so than the Model S) and even has a bit of that steering feedback many modern cars with electric racks lack. The ratio is not as stupidly quick as the Alfa Romeo Giulia (maybe a good thing) but felt very comparable to my last 335i. Two point being deducted for the steering weight doesn t increase in a predicable linear fashion as you keep turning. It does get heavier as turn-in increases but not as much as I d liked and it doesn t provide as much confidence near the limit as the best in this class. **Suspension Chassis (9.5 10):** Yep that s an almost perfect score and in my opinion as a sports sedan the Model 3 is among the cream of the crop in this already sporty segment. It manages to be supple *and* sharp at the same time and is able to offer some good feedback from the road without trying to set you up with your local chiropractor. It s obviously not as hardcore razor sharp as my M3 (and no it doesn t make the Giulia feel like wet sponge ) but it s extremely well balanced and reminds me of BMW s best days. Some people may find the ride a bit too harsh but I personally applaud Tesla for having the courage to make a sports sedan actually sporty instead of just making a land yacht with good acceleration. BMW maybe you should use some of those SUV profits to build actual Ultimate Driving Machines again. All of this is combined with the low center of gravity from the battery pack which resulted in probably the least amount of body roll in this segment. However it s not a perfect 10 because weight *can* be felt at higher cornering speed and it was obvious the car s tires are quite limiting factors. **Interior Quality Fit and Finish (5 10):** Before I talk about anything else I want to bring up the steering wheel or rather how ugly it is. The [Model S](https: images.hgmsites.net lrg 2013-tesla-model-s-4-door-sedan-steering-wheel_100466393_l.jpg) has a handsome and premium looking steering wheel my M3 has [real aluminum trim and contrast stitching leather](https: imgur.com a Tkqkx) and the Audi S4 has a steering wheel that resembles [that of a racecar](http: image.superstreetonline.com f 144382304+w+h+q80+re0+cr1+ar0+st0 2017-audi-s4-live-interior.jpg). Meanwhile the Model 3 s steering wheel looks like an [afterthought](https: i.imgur.com uzXoU7W.jpg) that Tesla engineers reluctantly put in last minute because they couldn t get Full Self Driving to work. Interior materials were decent. The wood trim felt premium but was marred by aluminum colored plastic around it. Most of the plastic were soft to touch and the synthetic leather felt ok as well. But this segment is extremely competitive and even [KIA](https: i.imgur.com tISHJNh.jpg) started using top end materials everywhere. Minimalism is a design choice that s subjective but material quality is an objective benchmark where the Model 3 is definitely falling short to the class leaders such as the [C class](http: www.mercedescla.org forum attachments 28929d1471300833-cla-interior-vs-c-class-mercedes-c-class-salooon-2014-door-panel-detail-frontseatdriver.co_.uk_.jpg). (Yes every piece there are real aluminum including the window switchers and the speaker grills are laser drilled aluminum as well.) I personally thought the $5000 price tag for the PUP is quite outrageous for what you get. For that money you d be buying into [BMW Individual Program interiors] (http: cdn.bmwblog.com wp-content uploads 2015 07 F80-M3-Individual.jpg). In comparison the full leather interior upgrade of my M3 was a mere $2k. On the other hand build quality was solid and the only rattling I thought I heard turned out to be the zipper of my jacket. Much better feel than the Model S from the earlier days. Also door pockets and rear cup holders man. **Technology User Interface (Exclude Auto Pilot) (2 10):** This was definitely by far the lowest point of my experience. The car was very bare bone as far as features go with no heated steering wheel no HUD no surround view camera and one of the worst sound system I ve heard from this segment (seriously mid-high range sound very flat and even distorted at higher volume). Then there is the center display which was responsive and high resolution by itself. But the problem was the interface itself was a complete mess. One cannot even adjust side mirrors without drilling down into the menus while driving. Bringing up the odometer of the car was a puzzle game by itself. The passenger couldn t open the glove compartment when I was trying to setup Bluetooth with my phone. Navigation itself was fine but the UI was dangerously unsafe since the turn-by-turn instruction was to the far right side of the screen with small fonts on top of an alpha overlay. Coming from [what I currently have](https: i.imgur.com vBjVrq8.jpg) it was just infuriating. And by the way [this happened twice](https: i.imgur.com chrYRpQ.jpg) to me on the short drive up to San Francisco. Once it happened when I was trying to get to the menu to adjust my side mirror. Thank Elon for Auto Pilot. Which brings us to... **Auto Pilot (10 10):** The best driver assist in this segment bar none end of story. Is it perfect? Not even close. Is it the best money currently can buy? By far. I would be lying if I said I didn t miss my M3 on the drive up to San Francisco. But after grabbing a late dinner with friends and I drove back on the boring 101 at night I would be lying if I said I didn t wish my M3 had Auto Pilot. **Overall Impression:** I was impressed by the Model 3. It wasn t perfect but is definitely without a doubt one of the strongest entries in the crowded luxury sports sedan segment. It does have some unique issues but it also has the unmatched value proposition of the sportiest EV on the market (yes this car is a lot sportier than a P100D Model S). This may very well be my next daily driver if there is room in the budget for it along with a [718 GTS](http: st.automobilemag.com uploads sites 11 2017 12 2018-Porsche-718-Cayman-GTS-front-side-in-motion-01.jpg) :) The Model 3 is not a true sports car. It is not a real luxury car either. But for 99% of the people out there who can work an EV into their life it is a *very very VERY good* car. The Model 3 is probably not *the* best car in this segment but I also cannot say any competitor is clearly better. Tesla s first effort in this segment manages to trade blows evenly against the best. P.S. The 3 settings for the heated seats seemed to be... 1. Somewhat warm. 2. George Foreman. 3. [What this guy felt.](https: geekandsundry.com wp-content uploads 2015 03 gollum-lava.jpg) Feel free to ask any questions :) **EDIT:** I forgot to mention yes the rear window visibility was absolutely awful comparable to the new pillbox Camaro. But hey it s a *forward looking* company right? | cookingboy | 2018-03-18 10:48:17 | 836 | dvvz6iu | Nice review I m surprised you didn t like the sound system I heard that it was much improved in the Model 3. | Running_North | 2018-03-18 11:24:01 | 182 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
l6pki3 | A discussion about the less popular refresh updates no ones talking about. | Am I the only one excited to see ventilated front seats coming back? I m also curious what Multi-device music means does this mean we can finally stream from 2 devices at once like I ve always wanted? Where are all 22 speakers going to be located? My guess would be 3 way components on each door 2 way center and a pair of 3 way components in the rear hatch complimented by a pair of subs in each side of the trunk. Will the rear screen be touchscreen? Can the front and rear screen play together multiplayer co-op? Show me that center console storage and cup holders! Auto lift gate. Does that mean we can finally open trunk with a foot swipe or just by approaching it? Phone key YESSS! but will there still be a key fob included for auto lift gate perhaps? How the hell will you activate autopilot or tacc? Carbon-sleeved rotors? Yes please Torque vectoring? What happened to the fog lights? They now look like blacked out model 3 y lights. Old fog lights helped headlights a lot in the dark. Have the headlights been updated so the DRLs don t brown out after a year? With the new rear aero diffuser it looks like it s been shaped for a tow hitch will it become an option? Where are the 7 seat options Elon promised would come back with plaid? | t0mmyr | 2021-01-28 06:01:29 | 17 | gl24f3t | Rear screen is touch screen. My guess is yes they ll be looking to get games to support both screens. With wireless controllers for back passengers. I bet there is no key fob included. There is no need for one. | deeceefar2 | 2021-01-28 06:36:52 | 9 | Tesla Software Update Analysis |
np3n9k | A dream come true… | https: imgur.com a Fi8dJdL An auto enthusiast who has owned close to 30 vehicles. I grew up with people in my family who took junkyard cars and sold them for $50k when they were done with it. I m fairly new to the EV but I have also done my research. I truly never thought I d be here but I am. A plate frame was my very Tesla purchase lol back when the first Tesla Roadster and Model S were announced in hopes of actually owning a Tesla one day. Tesla always intrigued me but at first it was just too pricey for the average person. Then things slowly changed… The Model 3 Model Y and who knows what s next. Owning close to 30 vehicles I have never driven a vehicle where when someone looks at it they look twice. They freeze because of the pure beauty. Some have told me from a distance at first they think it s a Porsche but then quickly see what s actually coming their way. The red to green light torque is mind blowing. The regenerative braking is cool as f**k. The sports car like steering feel is ….well hell yeah!!! Every single inch of this vehicle inside and out is a masterpiece. From the lights and mirror on the sun visor to the Induction wheels. Now the roads ahead of me guide the way in a vehicle that has the latest and greatest tech power and design that many car manufacturers cannot get close to. Aren t they like 10 years behind Tesla? Gone are the long lines at Costco waiting for gas. Gone are the long lines at Costco waiting for gas. Gone are the days that I wait for an oil change while the service guy is trying to tell me there s something else wrong with my vehicle so his technician and the dealership can try and replace a part or replace fluids that are perfectly fine. Gone are the days where the dealership salesperson tries to make an extra $1 000 on a new car sale. The horrible dealership experience and the snakes that go with it in their shiny suits are …..gone. A dream come true… Big props @Elon | Alabaster13 | 2021-05-31 13:40:06 | 139 | h036o2n | Congratulations! Avoiding those Costco gas lines is so good you said it twice. Don t let r cars know you re simultaneously a car enthusiast and a Tesla enthusiast. That doesn t fit the Reddit narrative that only technology enthusiasts could like Teslas. Wait until you get into a rental car and are alarmed by the clunkiness of everything from the drivetrain the acceleration the choppy responsiveness the rickety infotainment UI (and the need to use Carplay as a cartoonish crutch) and the antiquated notions of human-driver interface. Yeah they re not perfect. Nothing ever is. But the total package makes the current competition look confused and haphazard throwing billions at the situation hoping they can use loss-leaders to save face. Still it s great to see more options especially because tastes differ and not everyone will want a Tesla. It s a truly interesting time in cars. | bhauertso | 2021-05-31 15:02:43 | 42 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
95fhtz | A feature that is probably overlooked by most | I m a very short guy only 5 4” tall. Seeing above the hood of cars has always been difficult and the embarrassment of using a seat cushion was too much for me lol. It wasn t as bad in a 4Runner cuz it was high up but my bmw 330 I could barely see. The model 3 seats allow you to sit EXTREMELY high up. Like seriously I was dumbfounded at how high the seat let me adjust to the point where I was sitting at an incline hahah. This is something I never see mentioned but if you re short is a game changer | Tikkito | 2018-08-07 20:51:14 | 79 | e3saqss | > but if you re short is a game changer Wow finally a win for the shorts ^^^ s | assblast420 | 2018-08-07 20:55:20 | 172 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
e2ur02 | A feature they can add into the Cybertruck no one has mentioned | So people (Elon included) have mentioned time and time again that putting a Starlink antenna onto their current day cars are not possible because of the surface area required to put such a large antenna. I m willing to bet the Cybertruck is actually large enough to put one of those antennas on there! Not only can your truck now provide power for camping anywhere but also provide a worldwide internet access however rural you decide to drive your truck! Hell maybe one day someone can make a 3rd party antenna attachment that attaches to the bed of the truck. Assuming Tesla doesn t make that a built in feature. Edit: to clarify I m not saying one will drive and use this at the same time. I mean it s for situation where off-roaders or campers may go to places with no signal when parked. This will not only provide internet access but also a safety system. If they get into trouble out in the wild there s always a guaranteed connection with society. It can potentially replace SAT phones. | Lancaster61 | 2019-11-28 07:41:37 | 20 | f8xu568 | It has been mentioned and it s not happening. Idk why people are so fixated with starlink being added to their vehicle. Musk has said time and time and time again... starlink is not meant for this application. The funny thing is Subaru already calls their in-car mobile wifi cell service Starlink. | TheTimeIsChow | 2019-11-28 09:49:04 | 29 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
iowblz | A fellow Redditor and I quit our jobs to work on balancing the electric grid and the future of EVs. Today we launched the cumulation of our work automatic charge scheduling for Teslas. | & #x200B https: preview.redd.it ot02wi6i5yl51.png?width=483& format=png& auto=webp& s=60d239c851d2a596889f862d0ffdde032482d558 Hi TeslaMotors six months ago I met a fellow Redditor who wanted to focus on reducing global warming and encouraging people to drive electric. So we quit our jobs as software developers to focus full-time on building an app that would help. Today we proudly launched what we ve been working towards Charge Scheduling for Optiwatt [www.getoptiwatt.com](http: www.getoptiwatt.com ) a 100% free app that automatically schedules your Tesla to charge during the cheapest electricity rates and tracks your exact spending. We spent months organizing utility data so that users can automatically integrate their electricity rate schedules based on their zip code without having to dig through utility bills. Our goal is to reduce our reliance on dirty coal plants that get fired up during high demand by helping users track their consumption and automatically charge during off-peak hours. Please let us know what you think :) | caseyscompass | 2020-09-08 16:04:30 | 1,127 | g4gcong | Sounds cool. So if you quit your jobs and this is a free app what s your income model here? | bp332106 | 2020-09-08 16:24:02 | 156 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
3dz74m | A few Pre-Buy Questions | I m in Florida and strongly looking at placing an order. Obviously in Florida it gets hot. And humid. How good is the air conditioning really? I plan to avoid the pano roof. One thing my old Chrysler has going for it is air conditioning that practically blows snow in your face if you give it a couple minutes to cool down. I use my phone with Google Play Music via Bluetooth on my android phone. In my current car I can do simple navigation like track up and track down. Am I going to lose that ability? I have some content that s not on anyone s album. I ve put some effort into migrating my collection to Google and I love being able to edit playlists from my web browser then getting into the car and having them ready to go. Or is this one of those Just buy Slacker Radio Premium and shut up! items? How likely is it based on what we know that I ll be able to take maximum advantage of Autopilot if I were to order a vehicle now? And if I go the CPO route how would I know that I m getting an autopilot compatible car? Thanks for your help. Some of these answers exist in the world but I m leery of trusting out of date sources as quickly as new software and rumors pour out of Tesla motors. | majesticjg | 2015-07-20 18:50:40 | 13 | cta1rzp | I m in Florida as well in the Fort Lauderdale area. I had an S60 with a pano roof and recently upgraded to an older CPO P85 with a body color roof. To be honest there s not much difference in pano v. standard the UV coating on the pano is quite good. I only used the pano a few months out of the year during our winter but the kids sure loved showing it to everyone. The A C is good and remote cooling is a godsend. Just turn it on 5 min before you go out to the car and it ll be pretty cool by the time you get there. There are some great deals on CPOs and if it s something that interests you be sure to check out the [CPO Consolidator](http: ev-cpo.com ). You can filter the list of available inventory by those that have autopilot and those that do not. Right now all but one of the cars with autopilot listed are inventory S60s. There is one [CPO P85 up in Cleveland](http: www.teslamotors.com models preowned P62471) that has autopilot going for $76 800. When you visit the detailed page for any of the CPO cars it will indicate whether or not it is autopilot capable. Right now most of the CPO cars you ll see with autopilot aren t really CPO they re inventory showroom loaners. They probably do have a handful of inventory 70Ds 85Ds and P85Ds available for purchase they re just not pushing them to the CPO site. You may want to contact an owner advisor to see what other inventory cars with autopilot are available. Inventory vehicles are still eligible for the $7 500 tax credit since they ve not transferred title. My S60 was an inventory purchase and it knocked about $10k off the price and had 4k miles on it when I took delivery. | GeekLad | 2015-07-20 19:48:16 | 8 | Tesla companion app features |
1ehbc7 | A few Tesla Model S questions from a prospective buyer. | Hi guys - I was thinking of getting a Model S. I ll be calling them with my questions but I thought I d see if any of you guys have any first-hand experience first. Are the battery packs swappable? Not often - but once... if I buy the 60kWh version and decide I want the 85kWh battery in a few years is it possible to upgrade (if not now in the foreseeable future)? If I use this car the same way I use my current car it ll see a lot of wind with humid salty air by the ocean. Is there any additional worry about salty sandy corrosive humid air with the Tesla (due to whatever magic is going on under the car - i.e. is the motor in a more exposed place than a normal car or are sensitive battery bits exposed at all etc. etc.?) I assume not but it doesn t hurt to make sure... If you run out of battery on the road - what s your backup plan? A tow? Will AAA come out and quick-charge your car for you on the side of the road? Is there a reason why they recommend getting the high power connector if you drive more than 100 miles? I don t do that every day but maybe 1-2 times a week I may put 120-140 miles on it. It looks like that still comfortably charges in 4 hours with a 240V 40A outlet. What is the trip range that you d embark on with your 60kWh Tesla without thinking about the battery (i.e. without any kind of range anxiety)? Would you drive 140 miles without worrying about whether or not the AC or heat was on worrying about slamming on the acceleration etc.? Basically what kind of buffer do you keep for peace of mind? 10%? 25%? 50%? Anybody have a roof rack and know how that impacts the range? Does anybody have measurements of the trunk? Not the volume but the length width dimensions. And a non-tesla specific question - I ve never had a leather interior before. What do you think would be better if the seats may occasionally get wet (like salt water damp maybe some sand). Cloth or leather? Will leather abrade with sandy pants wetsuit? Does saltwater ruin leather? In my current interior wet stuff soaks into the seats and makes a kind of moldy mildewy smell. I m sure I would take better care of an 80k car but it will still occasionally get wet. Thanks. | teslathrowaway | 2013-05-16 22:35:33 | 16 | ca08skk | Keep in mind that I don t own one (yet) I ve ridden in one and done lots of this research myself. > Are the battery packs swappable? Not often - but once... if I buy the > 60kWh version and decide I want the 85kWh battery in a few years is > it possible to upgrade (if not now in the foreseeable future)? Yes - it was designed that way. That being said there isn t a good practical way to change it on-demand as a customer yet. > If I use this car the same way I use my current car it ll see a lot of > wind with humid salty air by the ocean. Is there any additional worry > about salty sandy corrosive humid air with the Tesla (due to whatever > magic is going on under the car - i.e. is the motor in a more exposed > place than a normal car or are sensitive battery bits exposed at all > etc. etc.?) I assume not but it doesn t hurt to make sure... Nope. Consider that one of the main adoption centers is California. > If you run out of battery on the road - what s your backup plan? A > tow? Will AAA come out and quick-charge your car for you on the side > of the road? Flatbed. Don t run out :) > Is there a reason why they recommend getting the high power > connector if you drive more than 100 miles? I don t do that every day > but maybe 1-2 times a week I may put 120-140 miles on it. It looks > like that still comfortably charges in 4 hours with a 240V 40A outlet. I think that s supposed to be 100 miles every day. You should be fine with a 240V 40A. My friends that own one haven t had range anxiety yet and they drive 60 miles each way for their work commute. The trunk is huge at least 1 (if not 2) golf bags fit there easily. Keep in mind you have the frunk too. There is no official roof rack but I m sure you can pay someone to install one. If you ve ever had a dog you ll know that leather is king. Stuff won t soak in to it as readily. | oogachaka | 2013-05-16 23:28:00 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
wcvpop | A few Tesla accessories | Here are a few Tesla accessories that I designed and sell on Etsy. I initially designed these for my own use and later decided to sell. All orders ship free to the US. I also ship to Canada (from [www.megaloopdesigns.com](https: www.megaloopdesigns.com) only) \- Charging adapter holder: stores the J1772 charging adapter inside the door and holds the adapter firmly so it doesn t roll around your car. Versions for [Model 3](https: www.etsy.com listing 1229563499 tesla-model-3-j1772-adapter-door-holder?ref=listings_manager_grid) and [Model Y](https: www.etsy.com listing 1228378259 tesla-model-y-j1772-adapter-door-holder?ref=listings_manager_grid) are available. \- [Charging plug wall mount](https: www.etsy.com listing 1260386842 tesla-charging-plug-holder-dock-simple?ref=listings_manager_grid): holds the charging cable in place while not in use. Straight and inclined versions available. \- [Fastrak transponder holder](https: www.etsy.com listing 1237555792 fastrak-flex-cav-holder-for-windshield?ref=listings_manager_grid): slips under the ceiling cover so that no glue velcro are needed. Easy to install remove. FLEX and CAV versions available. \- [Sunglass Mask holder](https: www.etsy.com listing 1228993267 sunglasses-holder-2-pieces-for-tesla?ref=listings_manager_grid): similar to the transponder holder this one slips under the ceiling cover. 2 holders are included in each shipment. Here s a link to my online store for all my items: [www.megaloopdesigns.com](https: www.megaloopdesigns.com) & #x200B https: preview.redd.it z5p0wolk7ye91.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=96dd8a5605d86363b4d2d246fb630191d51dd9b2 https: preview.redd.it hwoy9dzn7ye91.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=0af6393d32750b33eca60c222d1d686e33bcc94c & #x200B https: preview.redd.it gkywi8tp7ye91.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=d6bbe362628ac3a9ac6e30d61ba680737a4b773a & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 9xao70cs7ye91.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=7e63fdd3ebd931c130e1f9d5a373fd2a2f139ad8 | mcfly775 | 2022-07-31 18:42:53 | 118 | iif8ma8 | I d personally be afraid of the J1772 adapter falling out of the car when I open close the door. I like the fastrak transponder holder though! Something that would be cool is some sort of bag holder on the passenger side. Example: Buying food for takeout and placing it on the passenger floor (not a fan of placing it on the seat). Then being able to secure the bag onto a hook or something so it doesn t roll around as i m driving. I ve had food spill way too often in my scenario I just described above cause I didn t have a way to secure the bag(s). | omghappyevil | 2022-07-31 20:15:01 | 26 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
n2m3u6 | A few Tesla tips passed my way anonymously... | Take these with a grain of salt. Many things change often but just putting this out there so there s something fun to discuss on the possibilities. Some tips turn out to be accurate some not. These few things that were sent my way is public info and can apparently be found online. - Refreshed Model S Long Range can hit near 500 miles of range (going the speed limit + not using HVAC heavily) - Tesla is interested in custom design + PPF from the factory - This week we may see a small FSD BETA V9 release. We may get some video + pics from current social media people. Some people already have FSD BETA 9 and Software V11 but aren t allowed to talk about it. FSD BETA is already being used by employees in other countries outside the US. - There is an air quality sensor in the new S X and you can get a read out of the air quality in the vehicle. Along with internal and external temperatures. | 110110 | 2021-05-01 16:44:18 | 341 | gwk8op0 | > not using hvac heavily *laughs in miami* | dingdongbannu88 | 2021-05-01 17:17:42 | 140 | Tesla Software Update Analysis |
6xjjr9 | A few images of the Model 3 from the lot! | Here ya go guys! A few new photos of the Model 3. The grey with the aero wheels actually looks pretty nice. [model 3 ](https: ibb.co cyCsOa) [model 3-2](https: ibb.co mR6xpF) [model 3-3](https: ibb.co fyzvbv) | AlrightOkayIgetIt | 2017-09-02 03:27:57 | 99 | dmgn2ug | Oh hey boys come get your direct links here. [One.](https: image.ibb.co fB6xpF 48_F1_EE37_4_EE2_45_F8_9099_91056_F1835_B0.jpg) [Two.](https: image.ibb.co c3qe3a DB82_E5_D0_2866_432_B_A0_BC_C512_F4_BF5_F5_B.jpg) [Three.](https: image.ibb.co d2ETwv A2_FCF37_F_E37_C_4_A7_C_B19_C_90_A9867_ECF98.jpg) | cleletecl | 2017-09-02 09:01:07 | 26 | Tesla Model Sightings |
eie31j | A few minor updates to the North American supercharger network overnight | [Edit: I meant *planned* supercharger network] See the map here - https: i.imgur.com lrMRPz4.png - note the highlighted areas. These new locations do not yet appear on the find us interactive map but they are reflected in the list of superchargers here: https: www.tesla.com en_AU findus list superchargers United+States You might be able to find more stations which appear to be new by checking ones near you. It looks like the following have been added probably many more: * Anchorage AK * Watertown SD * Taos NM * Branson MO * Concordia MO * Nevada MO I ve also found a small number of new sites in Australia which unlike the ones above *are* on the find us interactive map: * Sydney NSW (3rd) * Brisbane Qld (2nd) * Frankston Vic I haven t checked any other areas. | ChuqTas | 2020-01-01 04:45:16 | 66 | fcpeurp | Hot diggity! In Canada that looks like they are completing the link from Saskatoon to Edmonton! This was a relative dead zone that will make a big difference. Just in the last week or two the one between Regina and Saskatoon opened but I thought it was odd it didn t extend all the way up now I see it will. This is going be big for Teslas in Saskatchewan. | WhiskyRodeo | 2020-01-01 06:42:17 | 22 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
b3s43m | A few more Model 3 tips from my 7 months of ownership | 1. When opening the lower storage area of the trunk you can flip up the lid like a hinge and rest the top under the roof of the trunk. This makes it easier than fumbling around with it as you just pull it down to close. 2. If you set your home work address you can have it quickly navigate to home or work (it will guess which one you want) by putting your finger on the search bar and swiping down or right 3. Wrap your center console if you want it to last because it s easily scratched 4. Learn how to slowly back off the accelerator when regenerating. If you do it jerkily it will make your passengers nauseated 5. You can cancel your turn signal by tapping once in the SAME direction. This saves for awkward moments when you signal left then want to cancel by signaling right but end up signaling right then panic and flip it left then end up signaling left.. and so on 6. Your car will make weird clunking noises randomly when off this is fine 7. If you want your rear seat rest to lay completely flat when transporting things you can easily remove the rear cushion with the tab and disconnecting a few wires for the seat heater (no tools required). This is useful if you plan on sleeping in the car too. 8. Related to 7 the car can sleep someone up to 6 feet comfortably without any knee bending 9. Turn off overheat protection if you want to save battery during the summer. It will run the A C if the car hits over 105 and can use quite a bit of energy. I recommend leaving the windows cracked if your car is secure and putting a sunshade up. 10. If you have the 19 sport wheels baby them and stay as far away from any curb as possible. Do not even try to ride up any small curbs.. the wheels will get scratched. 11. Close the trunk with one hand by reaching into one of the grooves under the trunk lid and swiftly pulling down. This saves against getting fingerprints or scratching the paint on the trunk lid. 12. Don t use easy exit unless you want to crush your passengers knees EDIT: You can also change easy exit to not go back as far 13. If you re having trouble with grasping the door handles you can just poke the thick part let go and then pull the door open from the outer edge 14. Long press the fan button to turn on off the climate control easily (I know this was posted elsewhere but wanted to reiterate since it is very useful) Edit: Thanks for the silver! Lots of good tips in the comments as well. I also have another one: * Your car comes with a screen protector already pre-installed. I ve left it there with no peeling or bubbling so far so you can just keep it on. Otherwise make sure you peel it off if you want to put your own on there. * You can swipe down on any of the apps (on any portion of it) in order to minimize it - you don t need to click x at all. You can also tap at the map behind it to minimize. Also related to #10 - if you DO curb your wheels use some detailing spray and wet-sand the curb rash. Start with 200-400 grit then move down to 1000+ grit and use a respirator. It ll be hardly noticeable afterwards. Not sure how good it would look on the 18s. | thepolan | 2019-03-21 15:48:35 | 213 | ej1q460 | I ll add one (which is a bit of a minor annoyance). Rear air is only turned on if a passenger is detected in the seats. My 2 kids car seats are NOT detected and thus the rear air never goes on. You have to turn this on manually by pressing the fan button and locating the rear air toggle on the right side of the screen. If anyone from Tesla is reading please allow a setting to disable the sensor requirement so people with kids don t have to do this every single drive. | NoVA_traveler | 2019-03-21 16:04:49 | 62 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5hg0hh | A few questions observations from an ICE driver who recently spent a few days with the Model X. | I m interested in purchasing the car next year and have been driving one for the last few days to test things out. Overall I m very impressed (but what s most important my wife seems to have joined the cult as well - she said she felt like on board on a private jet on the back seat). Some things that are bugging me though: 0. Holy shit the car is wide - my current daily driver is a big family SUV but at that width those beautiful 20 turbine rims won t stay scratch-free for long. 1. Range anxiety is real - my first trip required reaching a supercharger that s 200km away - I left in a -3° celsius weather with 80% on my battery and was super scared to the point of which I drove 100km h on the motorway until I was sure I m going make it. Do you get used to that? 2. I was driving the p90d which according to Tesla s site has a range of 489. However when I charged it at a supercharger the max range I got was 370km - why is that? That s a huge difference. Is that normal? Also can I expect the range to get better in a years time? 3. I like how roomy the interior is but the quality is a bit disappointing. That shiny plastic on the back of the seat? Come on I d happily paid more for brushed aluminium wood leather. Why did they go with shiny plastic? 4. AC seemed super ineffective to the point that I was forced to drive in a winter jacket. More over there was noticeable cold air coming through the second row doors at higher speeds - that s not something I would expect from a vehicle at that price point. 5. I love the nav behind the steering wheel - reliable super straight-forward and well it looks sexy. The infotainment unit at the center is clunky though - dragging and dropping doesn t seem the best choice usability-wise especially while you re driving. I m also not a big fan of the visual layer especially the icons which remind me of 90 s windows apps. 6. The supercharger network - I live in eastern europe and there are just three of them in my country. Do you think their density in not-so-important markets will increase during say next year or will Tesla focus on the density in their primary markets first? tl dr love it but a bit disappointed with some aspects. curious about range price supercharger improvements during the next year and to be entirely honest still taking an ICE into account (the Volvo xc90). | pshehe | 2016-12-09 20:12:07 | 29 | dazwdmg | 1. You get used to it. 2. You get used to that too. It does take a little while to change your way of thinking - but once you do it s no big deal. 3. My guess would be two-fold - The car is using the EPA rating and the site was referencing the Euro standard (which is looser) or you didn t have the car set to charge to full capacity (changed in the charging screen). That or the cold weather killed your range (which can happen). 4. Yeah they really should offer more seatback options. I d like rubber personally. 5. You mean heat I assume? Haven t experienced that issue in 20 degrees in Tahoe. 6. Shouldn t be dragging and dropping too often. In 8.0 the top will stay the map and the bottom will flip to whatever you tap on. That s a change I like from 7.1. 7. They re being built out - reference this: https: supercharge.info Certainly market size will matter - but get used to charging at home. It s the best way. | dirtyfries | 2016-12-09 20:18:58 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
34l0z9 | A few questions about this Powerwall | So a little background. I am engineer who spent several years working for a construction company out of college and as a union carpenter during college. Just wanted to get that out of the way before people start lecturing about static load. Why is everyone so excited about these being mounted on a wall and has anyone seen if they can be mounted in a different orientation? The ceiling of most spaces is 100% wasted why would I not want them there? I use my walls for stuff that needs to be accessed daily not so with my ceiling. Also I have never been ashamed to see posts as seeing how many post praising how great they look and posting pics of different colors. Who cares? It would be like oohing and aahhing over the color of the romex in my house. | stilljustkeyrock | 2015-05-02 02:12:16 | 11 | cqvr4dt | I am not an engineer but I think having really heavy things mounted above me would make me nervous. | Foxhound199 | 2015-05-02 03:54:40 | 16 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
belva8 | A few questions from a new owner | I just got my Model 3 yesterday and I absolutely love it so far. I have a few questions where I m having trouble finding straight answers. 1) My wife and i have only this car. Can I add it to her tesla.com account? Someone on a forum said to email [email protected] which I did. Has anybody found a better way? I have her phone logged in as me until I figure something else out but I hate doing that. 2) On the charging options screen there is a spot to select the max current draw. Does that actually matter? If I say 48A (the max) it won t try to pull that much through a charger that can t handle it will it? I m having an electrician install the wall charger tomorrow with a 60A breaker so 48A should be fine. But if I use the travel charger it will pull the max allowed by the plug adaptor I use right? 3) Anything else I need to know about? EDIT: 4) I appear to be on software version 2019.7.102. Any idea when the latest will be pushed out? Or is it random? | eric987235 | 2019-04-18 13:58:28 | 18 | el6uwsn | 1. [https: www.tesla.com support tesla-app](https: www.tesla.com support tesla-app) \- Scroll down and you ll see a section about adding someone like your spouse to access the car via the app with their own unique login. 2. Only time I ve ever lowered this is when I travel and come across chargers that aren t set up well. For example I came across a charger (Tesla wall charger) that was installed at this hotel and I kept tripping the breaker so I had to manually lower it. The guys there loved me since I had to keep asking them to reset the breaker until it finally worked. Also I believe you re correct on the mobile charger. Based on the adapter you re using it ll try to pull the rated Amps for that type. 3. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_ ¯ | Buttery_Bisquits | 2019-04-18 14:57:54 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
2zknx8 | A few questions regarding today s Tesla press conference. | 1. 9AM PST or EST? (Im assuming PST) 2. Will the event be livestreamed? 3. Will the moderators make a discussion thread for the press conference? Thanks to anyone that answers. Not looking for upvotes just curious. | Geiranger | 2015-03-19 11:09:52 | 22 | cpjt3sy | Useful time reference for your time zone [here](http: www.timeanddate.com worldclock fixedtime.html?msg=Tesla+Press+Release& iso=20150319T09& p1=137& ah=1) | Caracul | 2015-03-19 12:43:44 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
91f8od | A few thoughts and questions about my Model 3 | I m one of the lucky few who ve had their model 3 for a few mo the already and I thought I d share a few thoughts and ask others a few questions. This car really is like driving the future. Tons of looks and questions anywhere you go. Even from other Tesla owners at Superchargers. It accelerates as fast if not faster as any other car I ve owned (335cxi for example) and I just spent a weekend camping in it with my wife! It s pretty great. That being said 2 things are bothering me: 1. The turning radius is horrible! Maneuvering in tight parking lots or pulling a u-turn is such a pain. Anyone know why there s only one full turn to the steering wheel? I m used to having 1.5 or more lock to lock. 2. The dash material is WAY too soft. I read some notes on here about people scratching while cleaning and although I used a fresh new clean microfiber cloth and made sure it was wet I now have a large scuff running about 10 inches across the center of the dash. Anyone had any luck with products to fix this? | ScotchandCuss | 2018-07-24 07:19:06 | 16 | e2xnygj | I find the turning radius on Model 3 is about on par with any other FWD transverse-engined cars. Not great but acceptable. | bdnr | 2018-07-24 08:43:22 | 7 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
4afaxk | A few thoughts on my visit to the service center today | Had to drop off my car for some body work that I ve been putting off (prior loaner car so not new) and was given a ride in a brand new P90DL. All I can say is holy crap. I ve seen the reaction videos and read the testimonials but nothing prepares you for that launch. Also autopilot is magical. Now having seen it I really wish I had it. There were a few Model Xs being prepped for delivery and what an amazing car in person. One of them had the entire trunk interior ripped out and the back glass removed all because the trunk lid didn t line up right leaving the factory so the service center was stuck making the adjustment which involved removing the rear glass and trunk interior. Crazy. | psjoe96 | 2016-03-14 21:48:28 | 14 | d101kr0 | I can t speak to the Model X yet since I haven t seen one in person... However I think the feeling is absolutely mutual about the P90DL. I wasn t expecting that kind of power and speed packaged in something so refined and elegant. It was just absolutely ludicrous. | GlobalServiced | 2016-03-15 00:35:25 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
4f2ofk | A few thoughts on the new body Model S. | While washing my Classic Model S this morning I noticed a few rock chips on the front end and some more on the nose cone. I came to the conclusion that the new front end will definitely need a clear bra installed to avoid it looking beat up after a few months. I can get most of the rock chips out by simply buying a new nose cone for the Classic version. I love the new front end and overall look of the new body style but I think you would be crazy to not get protection for the front end. | ClevelandSteamer81 | 2016-04-16 16:52:31 | 19 | d25emfl | I personally will go for base white and then wrap it. Protecting it and also giving me the possibility to change color whenever I want | euro8000 | 2016-04-16 17:35:53 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
72ilu3 | A few tidbits from disassembling the Tesla Android app | Probably only of interest to a few but still worth sharing. # Model 3 - is likely to have a red brake caliper option. A broken code path for MODEL_3_RED_BRAKE_CALIPERS exists but the online render tool doesn t do anything with the traditional BC0R or possible BC3R code - aero wheels are referred to as PINWHEEL_18_INCH - sport wheels are referred to as STILETTO_SQUARE_19_INCH - colors are the same as the equivalent S X colors despite different marketing names # Model S - original (discontinued in 2015) dark metallic blue is referred to as SIGNATURE_BLUE # Model X - Model X has a manufacturing intro code for 2017 called MI02 like the Model S s 2016 refresh MI01 # Android - car images are grayscale then tinted and lightened on-device depending on the paint code - a native app but most of the UI is actually Javascript and React (image colorizer is native) | damieng | 2017-09-26 06:39:05 | 85 | dnizcbh | > Model X has a manufacturing intro code for 2017 called MI02 like the Model S s 2016 refresh MI01 Possible one more thing at the Tesla Semi event? | AnswerAwake | 2017-09-26 11:33:54 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9joqkz | A former SEC lawyer says the agency shouldn t have sued Elon Musk | The Securities and Exchange Commission said on Thursday in a lawsuit that Tesla CEO Elon Musk broke federal securities laws when he made what the agency called false and misleading statements in August about possibly taking Tesla private. But a former SEC lawyer told Business Insider he disagrees with the agency s assessment. Thomas Gorman a partner at the law firm Dorsey & Whitney and former SEC senior counsel said Musk s statements which he made on Twitter weren t smart from a business perspective but that doesn t necessarily mean Musk committed fraud. There s a significant difference between bringing a law enforcement action charging someone with fraud and saying This is not really a great way to do your business Gorman said. At issue is whether Musk had a reasonable basis for saying he had funding secured for a deal to take Tesla private at $420 per share as he said in an August 7 tweet. The SEC s lawsuit claims Musk said a representative from Saudi Arabia s Public Investment Fund had shown interest in taking Tesla private but that Musk had never discussed any of the specific terms he described on Twitter with the Saudi fund or any other potential backers before making them public. Those terms included the proposed $420 share price and an option for all existing Tesla shareholders to remain with the company after it went private. But Gorman said the Saudi fund s reported interest in a take-private deal was enough to make Musk s statements legal if ill-advised. And the SEC s current allegations that Musk hadn t ironed out the details don t change that Gorman said. There s a reasonable basis for what he said Gorman said of Musk s tweets. Winning its case against Musk would be a significant victory for the SEC as it would send a message to other companies about the agency s ability and willingness to punish illegal activity Gorman said. Prevailing in a high-profile case can give the agency a larger impact than its resources would otherwise allow. It s the equivalent of having the cop on the street corner Gorman said. They can t stand on every street corner. They can t stand in the lobby of every company in America. But if they bring high-profile cases everybody sees them and if they win that sends a message. But Gorman said he doesn t believe the SEC brought its case against Musk as a means of self-promotion. While he said disagrees with the agency s decision Gorman added that he believes the agency was confident it had enough evidence to sue Musk. I m not questioning their motive. I just disagree with their judgment here he said. From Business Insider | Potatochak | 2018-09-28 17:01:52 | 473 | e6t6gz2 | Jesus this is basically exactly what I said and I got downvoted to hell. | LakersFan9 | 2018-09-28 18:06:42 | 128 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
7z00ct | A former Tesla owner s fall from grace | I recently sold my Tesla P90DL and got a new truck. This was a compromise with the wife to a) get a boat b) roadster in 2020. My wife and I have been joking at all the little things that I miss about the Tesla besides the insanely obvious things. Here s a comical look at my fall from grace and fictional (slightly) tale of the first day driving an ICE truck to work. THIS IS INTENDED TO BE COMICAL and I am completely aware that many features below are not Tesla specific. **Getting In** I approach the truck nothing happens. No door handles present themselves and the truck remains locked?! What is this madness? I have to reach all the way in my pocket and get the key out AND push the unlock button. **The Departure** I get in the truck and I can t simply put the truck in drive. I have to actually start it first! Since I am not used to using a key or keeping it out I have since put the key back in my pocket. I get the key out of my pocket AGAIN but this time I m in the vehicle so I have to do the awkward get horizontal as much as possible to access pocket stance. I then put the key in the ignition and start the truck. I put it in drive and off we go. **The Turn** My hands are cold no heated steering wheel!! At least I have heated seats focus on the positive. I reach the end of my neighborhood and stop to turn on the main road that leads to the freeway. A car is approaching and I see there s a good enough space between vehicles so I pull out after it passes. OH MY GOODNESS!! This thing goes 0-60 in 30 seconds!! The car I pulled out in front of is blaring it s horn and giving me the finger. I do the embarrassing wave and apologetic nod. They politely respond but you can feel the fury. I take a mental note that I now have to wait for long gaps between the next vehicle when pulling out. **The Stop** I begin to approach the red light before the freeway access ramp and so I let off the gas. THE TRUCK BARELY SLOWS DOWN!! I have to push the brake or roll through this light!! No regenerative braking?! After I stop to wait for the light to turn green I push the brake to engage heel hold and let off the brake so that I may contemplate life and relax after almost causing myself to be rear ended. THE TRUCK STARTS MOVING!! I have to hold the brake the entire time!! No heel hold!! I consider putting the truck in park but that s going to be a hassle so I take the mental note to hold the brake from here on out. **The Freeway** I get on the freeway and attempt to engage autopilot to relax after the stressful 10 minute drive so far... The windshield wipers start going and the brights turn on. There s no lovely dun duh to tell me autopilot is engaged. The sorrow settles in. Holding the brake is nothing compared to the fact that from now on I must completely DRIVE!! I frantically look to see if I at least have cruise control!! *WHEW* A small victory it has adaptive cruise control! Again focus on the positive. **The Arrival** I get to the office and drive past my normal Electric Low emissions parking spot. Hey the extra walking will be good for the body! I pull in to my potentially new perma-spot (don t act like you don t have one) and put the truck in park. I get out and grab my laptop from the back of the truck. Dangit!! I always put it in the frunk and don t have to worry about someone breaking in to my car and stealing it. This is something I need to remember to be wary of. I begin walking to the the building and I turn to see the vehicle I hear approaching behind me... There s no other vehicle behind me IT S MINE!! You fool!! I had to start it obviously I have to stop it! I get back in the truck and fake a quick phone call so nobody realizes I got out of my truck with it on. **The Trip Home Pt 1** It s time to go home. I ve endured the first day at the office as an ICE owner and everyone asking about the Tesla and reminding me of how much I will miss it. I walk to my truck and open the door. DANGIT!! I never locked it. Another mental note it doesn t lock itself I have to lock it!! I m so used to swiping down on navigate to see the estimated time home and traffic conditions... Nope. Again I am forced to assume the get horizontal as much as possible to access pocket stance to access my phone for Google Maps AND the key AGAIN to start the truck. Calm down let s just listen to some tunes. Oh no slacker let s try this Sirius XM thing. Sign up today for your free trial ?? Screw this let s listen to a podcast. F**K!! Wooo saaah. Let s just bluetooth it and turn it all the way up. I begin the drive and find the perfect song to rage out to. I turn it up oh no fun reminder of this one goes to eleven . I turn it all the way up... 62?! What kind of number is that for max? The phone volume must not be max because it feels like the Tesla on 5. F**K!! It s all the way up... You know what I m going to call the wife she always calms me down. **The Wife** Of course no voice activation to call the wife. I have to actually call her from the phone. Calm down she ll make it better. Me: Hey babe how s it going? Wife: You there? Me: Yea how was your day? Wife: I can barely hear you Me: DAMMIT! Let me turn off this bluetooth calling Wife: What? Me: The bluetooth must not be that good Wife: Oh I can hear you good now Me: I know I was saying... Nevermind how was your day? Wife: You know you left the garage door open all day? Me: Obviously I wouldn t intend to do that so I didn t know Wife: Look... Me: Sorry babe I m used to the Tesla automatically closing the garage as I leave. Look I ll see you when I get home Wife: Well SORRY. I m going to go to the grocery store so I ll see you in an hour **The Trip Home Pt 2** It starts to rain. The windshield wipers don t turn on. This is a brand new truck why would they not turn on? I remember them turning on when I tried to engage the auto pilot that didn t exist... UGH!! I manually turn on the windshield wipers. **The Arrival Pt 2** I pull in to the driveway and the garage door remains closed. I am reminded of the garage door not opening automatically. It almost feels like it s laughing at me doing a Gandolff impression YOU SHALL NOT PASS Since I always enter through the garage I do not keep a house key on me. Since I ve never needed a garage door opener I do not have one. Woooo saaah. **The End** I attempt to relax and wait in the truck for my wife to arrive when it happens!! An orange light pops up on the instrument cluster Low Fuel has reared it s ugly head... Tomorrow I must venture to the pits of hell known as THE GAS STATION !! | DoctorMace | 2018-02-20 22:03:09 | 148 | dukdlrf | Change that flair | dirtyfries | 2018-02-20 22:15:22 | 83 | Tesla phone key functionality |
cudur0 | A fresh coat of paint on our r TeslaMotors! | We had a Half-A-Million [banner compeititon](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments coixtt rteslamotors_halfamillion_banner_competition ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x) with little fanfare. It was pretty clear that u backstreetatnight had the most [popular submissions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments coixtt rteslamotors_halfamillion_banner_competition ewr1oj0?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x)! I did want it to go longer but I realized that with me not putting the competition front and center (and instead putting the software megathread) and it not being very popular that it wasn t going to make a lot of difference what we ended up doing. So with that I congratulate u backstreetatnight! We quickly actually started working with him to refresh the subs sidebars a bit and I m having him revamp r TeslaLounge for us too so welcome him there! Psst there s even a little [Tesla-Snoo](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments c1gv5q new_cover_image_saw_a_post_on_how_this_should_be ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x) variant by [u Kar-Man](https: www.reddit.com user Kar-Man ) in the Lounge also as we felt that ll be more relaxed and a better spot for it based on the feedback we saw. Thanks u Kar-Man for the idea! We re going to make minor adjustments here and there to make sure it looks right and cohesive in light and dark modes too. We have other ideas to refresh the background image as new products appear use different submitted banners and even custom seasonal holiday icons down the road. So keep your eyes peeled. It should be noted these changes are in the New Reddit design. I will likely do something for the [old.reddit.com](https: old.reddit.com) folks myself but that ll come later. The general theme is going to be based around Tesla s official neutral marketing look so bare with us if we need to make tweaks here and there as we get going. u 110110 | 110110 | 2019-08-23 13:25:07 | 75 | extdsbc | Awesome job love the refreshed banner. TeslaLounge looks great as well! Props to the team and designers. | cwanja | 2019-08-23 13:30:42 | 14 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
dh3uvf | A friendly reminder to all Tesla owners! | Now that the weather is getting colder don t rely on low charges! Just lost 4% in 2 hours (currently 7 degrees Celsius) leaving us with 1% to get to the Supercharger on the way home. Over the travel it went to -2% on arrival and we gimped at 0% for 3 km and just made it. I ve always found warm or cold when the battery is under 10% it loses charge very quickly compared to 90% when sitting idle. Stay safe out there and may your SoC always be high! Cheers and happy Canadian thanksgiving | medium2slow | 2019-10-13 01:10:29 | 131 | f3hxu8e | Just worked out that way a lot of driving today dropped a kid off went home plugged in for a few hours had to go back out to pick the kid up. Then to a friend for dinner. We live rurally so it s always a far drive to do anything. Our friends live close to the supercharger so we were going to hit it up on the way home. 10% was more than enough to get there. Until we lost 4% in two hours then it said 4% to get there our soc was 6% then dropped drastically on our trip. Don t get me wrong we don t live our lives on low charges. It just worked out that way today. This post was a friendly reminder that it happens quicker than you think. | medium2slow | 2019-10-13 01:24:50 | 45 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8jlxym | A friendly reminder with these rising gas prices | Gas prices are hitting highs and it s easy to feel good about that when you purchased an EV. But please don t forget that new cars EVs and Tesla s in general are expensive and not everyone can afford them. Please don t be that guy or gal who boasts about their Tesla and how they re *so* glad they don t have to pay for gas — it makes all of us look bad. | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2018-05-15 14:21:35 | 454 | dz0lhx5 | The golden rule: don t be an asshole | BlargyMcBlargFace | 2018-05-15 14:24:05 | 441 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
5xwq3x | A friends Tesla died today | From the way he told it he was speeding up on the German autobahn when suddenly out of nowhere a loud bang sound came from the motor and the the car just died. He was able to coast it to the side of the road but was unable to get it started again. The dash showed a car needs service notice. Do these things happen more often? He called Tesla and they told him they d bring him a loaner and pick up the stopped car right away so no complaints about their service. | Grei-man | 2017-03-06 23:15:50 | 59 | delfyt2 | Please follow up with details on the cause when your friend gets it back. | HalMaxi | 2017-03-06 23:27:15 | 89 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bpwev5 | A good debate between two users on the verge comment section about Autopilot. Warning: Text heavy. | Taken from the comment section here: [https: www.theverge.com 2019 5 17 18629214 tesla-autopilot-crash-death-josh-brown-jeremy-banner](https: www.theverge.com 2019 5 17 18629214 tesla-autopilot-crash-death-josh-brown-jeremy-banner) & #x200B Some highlights of the arguments here are in order: & #x200B > [Resiroth](https: www.theverge.com users Resiroth) > > Alternative title: and now 9 more people are alive than would have been anticipated based on the miles (> 1 billion) travelled. > > Also would note based on the Twitter thread when the semi has side skirts (which are required legally in Europe and improve safety regardless of whether you re using autopilot) there is no issue. Clearly Tesla needs to work on this but at the same time I wonder if the US could just join the rest of the civilized world in requiring side skirts. > > Here is one (of many) examples of someone without autopilot dying as a result of these poorly designed vehicles: [**https: www.currentargus.com story news crime 2018 11 02 houston-woman-dies-lea-county-fatal 1862442002 **](https: www.currentargus.com story news crime 2018 11 02 houston-woman-dies-lea-county-fatal 1862442002 ) > > So while this is an issue for autopilot it s also an issue for humans it appears. & #x200B > [OpssYourBad](https: www.theverge.com users OpssYourBad) > > This is a confused and poor argument. > > The problem isn t whether Tesla s self driving system is leading to a net gain or net loss of life but whether the loss of life is obviously preventable (or at the very least could Tesla have done more to try to prevent the loss of life). The discussion isn t whether to completely stop autonomous vehicle development (I have not seen a single person who argues that) but whether Tesla should better implement better features (that other car manufacturers implement so it s not like these features are impossible or even hard to implement) to reduce the **unnecessary loss of life**. > > > > Once again you re refusing to engage the actual argument. This isn t about who has first responsibility this is about whether the loss of life was **unnecessary** and **preventable**. > > It s the reason why seatbelts have warning systems even though it s the driver s responsibility to use the seatbelt it s the reason why Ford is getting sued for their poorly designed parking system on the Grand Cherokee it s the reason why car companies (and airplanes and anything that can cause multiple loss of life) have multiple redundancies even if the first responsibility belongs to the user. > > It s a childish argument to say We re not going to do everything we can to reduce the loss of life because the first responsibility lies with the driver . & #x200B > [Resiroth](https: www.theverge.com users Resiroth) > > There are lots of unnecessary and preventable deaths. See: all the cars that don t get 5-stars on every crash metric or are sold without AEB. We know that those cars could be designed at additional expense and yet they are still allowed to be sold despite them being more dangerous causing additional fatalities. > > Or alternatively look at literally any car that isn t a model 3: [**https: electrek-co.cdn.ampproject.org i s electrek.co wp-content uploads sites 3 2018 10 m3-nhtsa-blog-09272018-e1538965297188.jpg?resize=1292**](https: electrek-co.cdn.ampproject.org i s electrek.co wp-content uploads sites 3 2018 10 m3-nhtsa-blog-09272018-e1538965297188.jpg?resize=1292) 1000 & #x200B > [OpssYourBad](https: www.theverge.com users OpssYourBad) > > What would it cost Tesla to stop advertising their driver assist feature as Autopilot ? What would it cost for Tesla to implement a software update that stops the car slowly if driver hands are off the steering wheel? How much does the cheapest Model 3 you can actually buy cost vs the cheapest car in other automaker s line ups? > > At least try to engage the argument in good faith. & #x200B > [Resiroth](https: www.theverge.com users Resiroth) > > Well what would it take to have Audi not call it traffic jam pilot? Or Nissan to stop calling it pro pilot? > > What would it cost Nissan Audi Volvo Mercedes Lexus etc to implement a feature where it slows down after not detecting hands? > > (PS: if you fail to respond to the request fast enough to put your hands on the wheel the feature is disabled until you stop and reboot the feature) > > The cheapest model 3 is 35 400. **I don t know the cheapest Mercedes Audi Volvo bmw Maserati Porsche or Land Rover is but I would expect around the same price or quite a lot higher. Still in 2019 not a single other manufacturer has** **AEB** **on 100% of their cars while it has been standard on every Tesla sold for a couple years now.** > > **And I would argue if Tesla autopilot is resulting in a net increase in lives that s all that matters. Based on how many autopilot miles are driven every day there ought to be a fatality every month statistically and that will only increase more over time. There will be more deaths but there will be fewer deaths than if they hadn t allowed people to use the system at all.** > > I would also note that Nissan Volvo Mercedes BMW Audi and Lexus all have the exact same attention gauging feature as Tesla. Only GM s supercruise has an eye-monitoring feature which apparently has problems when operating with direct sunlight. [**https: www.autonews.com technology sun-plays-tricks-cadillacs-super-cruise**](https: www.autonews.com technology sun-plays-tricks-cadillacs-super-cruise) > > If you want to talk about reducing unnecessary life talk to the automakers that sell cars in 2019 without automatic emergency breaking. Something that comes on every Tesla sold standard. & #x200B > [OpssYourBad](https: www.theverge.com users OpssYourBad) > > And if Elon Musk enjoys watching people die he could implement an autopilot lottery that kills its occupant once in a rare moon just for fun long as autopilot is resulting in a net increase in lives because that s all that matters? > > Tesla also happens to cost much more than the other automakers cheapest models and I know it s possible to get automatic emergency braking in any car that costs as much as the base Model 3 so there s that. & #x200B > [Resiroth](https: www.theverge.com users Resiroth) > > Your questioning is like saying so you re saying just because a drug saves 9 10people and kills 1 10 it s better than nothing at all which results in 5 10 dying and 5 10 living? > > The answer is obviously yes. > > Then you go off the deep end and say well what if the doctor kills one of the patients just for fun is that a good outcome just because 8 10 live and 2 10 die vs 5 10 dying without an intervention? Are you pro murder? > > To which the obvious response is that s not happening and never would happen and isn t relevant to the discussion. > > Ps: I noticed you didn t address that despite many other luxury brands being far more expensive only Tesla is including AEB on every car they sell. Weren t you arguing Tesla s sin was unnecessary deaths that could have been prevented? I guess when Porsche Audi BMW etc refuse to make a safety feature proven to reduce accidents standard it s fine but when Tesla has a feature that reduces deaths but doesn t reduce deaths to zero it s negligent? And you think my line of reasoning is flawed? | TheBlack_Swordsman | 2019-05-17 20:37:51 | 43 | eny9t59 | This post meets the minimum character limit. | TheBurtReynold | 2019-05-17 20:54:32 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
eikc1b | A good first troubleshooting step for any bug on all versions (voice commands excessive chimes etc) | Just wanted to share a tip that worked for me to resolve voice commands not working. 1. Unplug all USB devices 1. Perform a [soft reboot](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support) 1. Plug devices back in after reboot completes And that s it. Apparently USB devices can prevent certain systems from booting correctly following a reboot for updates. Credit to user [Slyicep on TOO](https: teslaownersonline.com threads software-build-v10-2-2019-40-50-5-79b51bc-12-28-2019.15082 #post-269576) for bringing this to my attention. | StellarFricative | 2020-01-01 16:44:58 | 49 | fcrecm7 | GPS autopilot and backup cam stopped working mid drive. Unplugged sentry USB. Everything works again. Why the fuck does a faulty USB drive interfere with autopilot and GPS? | TheAJGman | 2020-01-01 17:44:49 | 13 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
5kvad8 | A guy in a Tesla kindly gave me the right of way today as I was walking I waved at him as a thanks. Turns out I was waving at the Tesla not him. | Guy didn t even notice me. He was texting on his phone on Autopilot. So really I was thanking the Tesla. The future is fucking here. | TheLogicalMonkey | 2016-12-29 06:04:19 | 398 | dbqwj2b | Context? I didn t think pedestrian detection worked on AP1 yet and I m curious where you were crossing that would ve brought the car to a stop while still being in Autopilot. | scottg96 | 2016-12-29 06:12:34 | 46 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
8qymzq | A hidden Tesla cost that nobody seems to talks about... | I had some change in my pocket and as soon as I floored it at a traffic light it all shot out into the dark abyss between the seat & the console. Sigh. **Talk | whyvas | 2018-06-14 03:24:08 | 12 | e0ni1eb | The first time I floored it yesterday after picking the car up I neglected to give the wife a warning and she literally punched herself in the face. She was less than pleased 😬 | TheKobayashiMoron | 2018-06-14 10:25:39 | 21 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
dx22sd | A high passenger-density urban transport vehicle | With the unveiling of CyberTruck less than a week away I took a peruse through 2016 s [Master Plan Part Deux](https: www.tesla.com blog master-plan-part-deux) (MP2) largely to remember how where the truck fits in. Obviously a lot has changed since 2016 — most notably the release of Model 3 (and lest we forget how aggressively Tesla pulled its production “the the left”!). Anyhow two things jumped out at me: 1. The fact that the first component of MP2 is energy generation and storage. The recent re-emphasis on the solar + storage now seems more congruent especially with how Elon has gone out of his way to point out how Tesla Energy has hitherto taken a backseat to Model 3 production and 2. This part: > In addition to consumer vehicles there are two other types of electric vehicle needed: heavy-duty trucks and **high passenger-density urban transport**. _Both are in the early stages of development at Tesla and should be ready for unveiling [in 2017]._ We eventually got the Tesla Semi unveil but I totally forgot about this other creature... Have we heard anything more the **Tesla Bus?** My guess is that said vehicle‘s fundamental design concept assumes FSD has been achieved (e.g. it won t have a driver console) so the vehicle will remain low priority until at the very least “Navigate on City Streets” is in wide release. Thoughts? | TheBurtReynold | 2019-11-16 04:16:06 | 12 | f7mz6rc | I believe it was cancelled https: www.theverge.com 2017 5 3 15537926 tesla-bus-project-electric-elon-musk | croninsiglos | 2019-11-16 04:26:17 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9kp918 | A key element for mass-produced affordable EV s: Apartment chargers | I have no intention or desire to buy a home and may never want to period. Many people simply can t afford to others want the freedom to not be tied to the same location (and constant payments) for 15-30 years. It s a shame that owning not even renting your own home is almost a requirement to participate in the EV revolution at this stage. And the reason is just because of a charger which costs a tiny fraction of the price of the house. The infrastucture is all over the place. The distribution is automatic. All we need is a damn plug and a meter. Tesla has taken the initiative with superchargers and it s possible to go rogue and just use those. Theyre tough on the battery and not meant to be the only means of charging. Or we could use an adapter and charge at other stations which are much slower & crappier. Or we could run an extension cord from our apartment if it will even reach (i m about to move to a 9th story apartment) and get 3-5mph with a standard 120 plug. None of this is really workable. Tesla has talked about autonomous ridesharing but that s a ways off and many people who don t own a home will still want to own their own car. Often 100% ridesharing just doesn t fit into a life that was never structured around it before without serious concessions. And it just seems ridiculous to be barred from EV ownership because of 1 little plug. So is there any talk of chargers at or near apartments? It s not rocket science and elon literaly does rocket science. All they need to do is the same type of agreements they ve done for superchargers.. and just make sure it has a meter & credit card swiper so the apartment owner gets their cut. Seems so easy and when the $35k cars start rolling out more & more non-home-owners will want some practical way of owning an EV. For home renters it may be a bit tougher.. anyone have ideas for that? | funk-it-all | 2018-10-02 09:47:07 | 31 | e70upl7 | Don t forget about work place charging. My spouse s work place installed outlets at eight parking spots to accommodate all the EV people working there. Free charging is another benefit companies can offer that doesn t actually cost them that much. And many new apartment building are installing charging station in their parking garages. They sometimes charge extra for juice but that is the nature of renting instead of owning. | BraveRock | 2018-10-02 12:03:13 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
dcchkd | A key milestone on the journey to autonomous driving: POTHOLE detection and evasion | Has anyone heard Elon or someone else at Tesla talk about this? It strikes me as so important. In some ways even more important than traffic lights stop signs. Given the state of many roads staying safely in lanes and winning too much driver trust could be recipe for accidents or car damage if you hit a pothole at speed. It also just adds to the stress of current autopilot. You see a small pothole that you d normally steer round and have to decide whether it s worth the hassle of intervening. If it could solve this problem I think it would really boost my confidence in FSD coming in next couple years. | TEDChris | 2019-10-02 16:19:53 | 76 | f27aehb | Elon has responded to tweets about this in the past | ElonMousk | 2019-10-02 16:31:09 | 22 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
3nxmp6 | A lengthy report on a lengthy road trip..... | I just returned from the longest road trip of my life one I have wanted to take for many many years and in all honesty if it weren t for Tesla I am not sure I ever would have. Really felt inspired by this car and hearing other people s stories on this forum and others. I wanted to share a bit of my story with anyone who is interested. Details: Drove from DFW area to California with a stop at Grand Canyon on the way out and a few nights on the way back to break up the drive (Albuquerque and Flagstaff). 4000 miles total. Furthest from home I got was Big Sur. Stayed a total of 7 nights on the west coast in various places. My Observations Experience: 1) Prior to this my longest road trip in my S85 was 600 miles round trip with only 2 Superchargers being used in either direction. I did have a nagging concern that there would be a multiplier effect with waiting to charge over and over throughout the trip. This never really became an issue. There were a few isolated incidents when I waited longer than I would have liked to get enough charge but it was never excessive and not a major issue. I can honestly say it bothered me none. 2) I never once got ICE d. Anticipated this happening at least once after seeing numerous pics here and in other forums of people being ICE d. Law of averages figured it HAD to happen on a trip this long. Not once. 3) Destination chargers are really underrated. We all discuss the SC network so much and I understand it is vitally important but pulling into a hotel and charging while you sleep is great. Twice I did this within a few miles drive of a Supercharger. Every hotel I stayed in for the night (a total of six) all had destination chargers. This was not by coincidence because I researched this trip at length. But literally EVERY possible stopping point I found at least one. In one of our destinations (Santa Barbara CA) they had seven different hotel options. The destination charging network is growing in leaps and bounds and it is amazing. 4) I expected to wait on a few SC s along the way and I expected to see a lot more Teslas charging than I did. During my entire journey from CA back home I only saw two others using the SC network. This was kind of shocking to me. Those who I did encounter I chatted with frequently and it was great to hear their stories and pass a little time waiting to charge. On a few occasions I stayed longer than I had to just to chat. Saw one guy as I headed west from TX to AZ literally at every SC stop along the way. My wife made an interesting observation you don t see people pumping gas chatting with each other like they do at Superchargers . Not everyone is social but most people I met particularly in the more isolated locations we chatted for a bit and it was great to meet a few Tesla owners and hear about their travels. The one busy station I encountered was Barstow on the way west and while every station was occupied I still got one without a wait and the charging speed was more than adequate. 5) There are still some bugs with the navigation software. After reading numerous reports about this issue I elected to not try to route an entire day s trip but rather clicked on one SC destination at a time. Even then I had some issues. Once when I was in the middle of the Mojave Desert (literally right in the middle of it) my navigation flashed a warning that I didn t have enough battery to make it to my destination and tried to re-route me north to Nevada. I ignored it figuring in at least this one instance I was smarter than the computer. I was right. I had given myself about 40 miles cushion in rated range vs. actual and had zero issues making it there. 6) Range anxiety was almost non-existent. I typically gave myself about a 40 mile buffer from one stop to the next and drove however I wanted used AC however I wanted. The one time I had a bit of an issue was driving to Flagstaff with a BIG elevation change in the rain with a lot of wind. I gave myself a big buffer for this leg of the trip and still had to slow down considerably to make it there (arrived with 9 miles range left). This was largely user error because I was driving a bit fast for the first half of that trip until I realized I may be in trouble and in this instance the nav actually helped me a lot. Don t underestimate elevation changes. They matter a lot. Sorry for the lengthy narrative. I will stop rambling. Hope this is useful in some way and I would love to hear other people s road trip stories. | tturedditor | 2015-10-08 04:48:00 | 45 | cvs74bt | Not surprising Barstow is a busy stop even for ICE cars. There s a reason that In-N-Out is like 4x the size of a typical one. It s seriously massive. Sounds like you had a fun journey. Big Sur is awesome. | forgotmyredditagain | 2015-10-08 05:20:00 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
3htg8d | A letter to Elon regarding the P85D s performance that has been circulating around the Tesla Motors Club Forums | Elon Musk Chief Executive Officer Tesla Motors 3500 Deer Creek Road Palo Alto CA 94304 Date 2015 Dear Mr. Musk We are writing to you as a group of concerned Tesla owners investors and perhaps most importantly supporters. We want to share our thoughts with you on an issue we think is critically important. While we don t all feel exactly the same way about this matter we all agree that this warrants your personal attention. We re writing because the Tesla Model S P85D falls considerably short of actually making 691 horsepower. We ll get to the facts that support this in a moment as well as some of the ideas we ve discussed for how Tesla might manage this going forward. We want to say at the outset though that we have come to you because we think it is inevitable that if we had not sooner or later someone or some group would go to the media. It is our hope that armed with the information this letter will provide Tesla will be able to get out in front of anything negative that could come of this issue in the future. The basic facts are as follows: The P85D was marketed as making 691 horsepower. It doesn t. We believe based on various testing methods and tools including dynamometer testing and testing with professional performance data loggers that the maximum energy output is 415 KW which results in a maximum horsepower of 557 before any drivetrain losses on a fully charged battery. Even without factoring in drive train loss this is almost 20% less than the advertised horsepower. The missing horsepower is quite noticeable at highway passing speeds. For example from 70-90 mph the P85D should perform like a car with a power to weight ratio of one HP for every seven pounds. Instead it performs like a car with one HP for every nine pounds. The result of this is that from 70-90 mph the P85D is easily outperformed by an Audi RS7 with a power to weight ratio of only one HP for every eight pounds. The 691 HP figure appeared on the Tesla Motors website from October 9 2014 the date of the D launch until the middle of May 2015. Dozens of articles on the P85D quoted this figure. Tesla did not correct these stories. Tesla allowed the world and more importantly Tesla customers to believe the P85D would make 691 HP. In late December 2014 the following statement was released to the media and was added to the Tesla Motors website: The P85D top speed is currently electronically-limited to 130 mph. In the coming months we will be able to upgrade the car free of charge to enable a 155 mph top speed. This free update will be available for the lifetime of the car (not limited to the first owner). Additionally an over-the-air firmware upgrade to the power electronics will improve P85D performance at high speed above what anyone outside Tesla has experienced to date. In other words the car will be better than you experienced. This free upgrade will be rolled out in the next few months once full validation is complete. While the top speed firmware upgrade took place the high speed performance upgrade never did. Many of us believe that promised upgrade which some of us were counting on to bring our cars up to or at least closer to the promised 691 HP has now turned into the Ludicrous Mode upgrade. Those of us that believe this think Tesla had every intention of releasing the upgrade at no charge as originally promised but found that the hardware was not up to the task thus requiring the new fuse and Inconel contactors that are now integral parts of Ludicrous Mode. A related issue that has some signers concerned is that Tesla apparently used 1-foot roll out when providing the original P85D 0-60 time of 3.2 seconds without making any mention of having done so and without having done so in the past when providing the 0-60 times for other Model S vehicles. While we understand that this is to some extent a standard way of expressing 0-60 times in the United States it is not standard all over the world. Also the fact that Tesla chose to do this for the first time with the P85D without explaining what was being done meant comparisons to other Model S vehicles were not valid. Many signers fear the recent analysis by Consumer Reports a publication that has written extremely positively about the Model S in the past will shed even more light on this particular issue. Most if not all of the signers of this letter do not believe that Tesla intentionally misled anyone at any time. The fact remains though that many Tesla P85D customers have not received everything they have paid for. How Tesla should handle that is where the feelings of those signing this letter really begin to diverge! This letter has grown out of several very active and at times heated discussion threads on the Tesla Motors Club forums. These threads have almost two-thousand posts! Many people have very strong feelings on this topic. Some forum members have written Tesla about this issue themselves and have not received a response of any kind which is of great concern to many of us. The problem is not going to just fade away. Some of the signers of this letter are P85D owners who are completely happy with their cars. They may recognize the fact that their cars don t make 691 HP but they are OK with it and are willing to give Tesla a pass on this. Many signers of this letter think the best thing that Tesla could do would be to give away the Ludicrous Mode upgrade to affected P85D purchasers. In addition to the incredible amount of good will this would generate and lost trust it would win back we think there would also be an amazing amount of great press coverage. Another benefit of this approach is that it would provide great insulation against potential bad press should the story of the missing horsepower ever become mainstream media news. All Tesla would need to do is say “We had every intention of being able to provide the stated horsepower. When we discovered we could not we went back to the drawing board made the car even better and gave the improvements to the affected customers for free.” Being able put out statements like that could turn what easily could have been a negative story into a positive one that improves the Tesla image and increases sales. Some signers feel that providing the Ludicrous Mode upgrade parts for free but charging for the labor to install them would go far enough towards making things right. Some signers are not sure what would make things right but know that they want Tesla to take some sort of action to move in that direction. Every signer of this letter wants Tesla to continue to grow to prosper and to succeed in changing the world! We trust that with the information we have provided you will come up with a solution that works for Tesla and for the affected customers. Thanks very much for your time! Sincerely Andrew Wallenstein [email protected] P85D Owner VIN # P64227 P85D Owners Other Tesla Owners Tesla Investors but not Tesla Car Owners Tesla Supporters | Quality_Bullshit | 2015-08-21 06:13:20 | 44 | cuaixm3 | Count me among the P85D owners who remain absolutely thrilled with their car do not feel we are owed free ludicrous upgrade (though wouldn t turn it down!) but agree Tesla has some splainin to do. | EatMoarToads | 2015-08-21 11:07:44 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
3ac3sh | A list of the 59 US National Parks and whether each is within round trip range of a Tesla Supercharger | So I m a bit of a national parks junkie and of course a bit of a Tesla junkie as well and was wondering which US national parks were within round trip range (250ish miles) of a Tesla supercharger. So here s a list of the 59 US national parks whether they are in range and if so by how much which charger and what destination in the park (my rule is that it had to be either a visitor center or some other obvious landmark and had to be within the park boundary.) As always your mileage may vary. This ONLY takes into account distance not elevation or any other factors. State | Park | Y N? | Miles | Supercharger | Park Location ---|---|----|----|----|---- AK | Denalli | N | | | AK | Gates of the Arctic | N | | | AK | Glacier Bay | N | | | AK | Katmai | N | | | AK | Kenai Fjords | N | | | AK | Kobuk Valley | N | | | AK | Lake Clark | N | | | AK | Wrangell St Elias | N | | | AR | Hot Springs | N | | | AS | American Samoa | N | | | AZ | Grand Canyon | Y | 87.4 | Flagstaff AZ | Grand Canyon Village AZ | Petrified Forest | Y | 24.3 | Holbrook AZ | Painted Desert Visitor Center (VC) AZ | Saguaro | Y | 59.4 | Casa Grande AZ | Red Hills VC CA | Channel Islands | N | | | CA | Death Valley | Y | 80.2 | Lone Pine CA | Stovepipe Wells Village CA | Joshua Tree | Y | 32.3 | Indio CA | Cottonwood VC CA | King s Canyon | ? | 135 | Harris Ranch CA | Cedar Grove VC CA | Lassen Volcanic | Y | 68.6 | Corning CA | Kohm Yah-mah-nee VC CA | Pinnacles | Y | 48.4 | Gilroy CA | Pinnacles VC CA | Redwood | N | | | CA | Sequoia | Y | 109 | Harris Ranch CA | Lodgepole VC CA | Yosemite | Y | 114 | Manteca CA | Yosemite Valley VC CO | Black Canyon | Y | 77 | Grand Junction CO | South Rim VC CO | Great Sand Dunes | Permit | | Trinidad CO | CO | Mesa Verde | Y | 99.6 | Farmington NM | Step House CO | Rocky Mountain | Y | 79.2 | Denver CO | Beaver Meadows VC FL | Biscayne | Y | 111 | Riviera Beach FL | Dante Fascell VC FL | Dry Tortugas | N | | | FL | Everglades | Y Permit | 119 | Riviera Beah FL | Ernest Coe VC HI | Haleakala | N | | | HI | Hawaii Volcanoes | N | | | KY | Mammoth Cave | ? Const | 133 | London KY | Visitor Center ME | Acadia | N | | | MN | Isle Royale | N | | | MN | Voyageurs | N | | | MT | Glacier | ? | 136 | Missoula MT | Apgar VC NC | Great Smoky Mountains | Y | 51.2 | Knoxville TN | Cades Cove VC ND | Theodore Rooselvelt | N | | | NM | Carlsbad Caverns | N | | | NV | Great Basin | Y | 121 | Beaver UT | Lehman Caves VC OH | Cuyahoga Valley | Y | 7.1 | Macednoia OH | Boston Store VC OR | Crater Lake | Y | 97.7 | Grants Pass OR | Rim Village VC SC | Congaree | Y | 40.7 | Santee SC | Harry Hampton VC SD | Badlands | Y | 68.9 | Murdo SC | Ben Reifel VC SD | Wind Cave | Y | 62.8 | Rapid City SD | Visitor Center TX | Big Bend | N | | | TX | Guadaloupe Mountains | N | | | UT | Arches | Y | 5.2 | Moab UT | Visitor Center UT | Bryce Canyon | Y | 69.3 | Beaver UT | Visitor Center UT | Canyonlands | Y | 32.5 | Moab UT | Island in the Sky VC UT | Capitol Reef | Y | 74.2 | Richfield UT | Visitor Center UT | Zion | Y | 43.5 | St George UT | Zion Canyon VC VA | Shenandoah | Y | 65.4 | Woodbridge VA | Dickey Ridge VC VI | Virgin Islands | N | | | WA | Mt. Rainier | Y | 93.7 | Centralia WA | Henry Jackson VC WA | North Cascades | Y | 59.9 | Burlington WA | Visitor Center WA | Olympic | ? Y | 127 | Burlington WA | Visitor Center WY | Grand Teton | N | | | WY | Yellowstone | Y | 87.3 | Bozeman MT | Albright VC Notes: 1. Great Sand Dunes will not be reachable until Trinidad CO (currently in Permit status) goes online. 2. Everglades is within range of Marathon FL but that s kinda useless. It will be much easier to reach once Plantation FL (currently in Permit status) goes online. 3. Mammoth Cave is doubtful until Nashville TN (currently under construction) goes online. 4. You can take a ferry to shave 30 miles off the trip to Olympic to make it much more realistic. Edits: Changed Cedar Ranch to Harris Ranch updated Sequoia destination to Lodgepole VC from Foothills VC. | EatMoarToads | 2015-06-18 22:04:48 | 29 | csbbrro | Great Smoky Mountains National Park has 24 EV chargers around the park and in nearby communities in TN and NC (including a Tesla supercharger in Knoxville). Y all come for a visit! | friendsofthesmokies | 2015-06-19 00:02:08 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6pahgu | A little birdie told me that two new superchargers are coming to the Indianapolis area soon. | Like land has been bought soon. | TheRainbowNoob | 2017-07-24 18:50:45 | 23 | dknvzqa | Sure it wasn t a bat? | 110110 | 2017-07-24 19:52:00 | 28 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8liwpi | A little bit of perspective when you see Tesla in the news | Obviously it s a little concerning when auto manufacturers need to mass recall vehicles. No matter who the manufacturer is. Let me give some examples: [Subaru ABS + Driver Assist 72 000 vehicles in total](https: www.usatoday.com story money cars 2015 06 25 subaru-automatic-braking-failure-recall 29279317 ) > If the switch that activates the brake lights fails the automatic pre-collision braking component of the company s driver-assist system will not function causing the affected vehicle not to react to an obstacle in its path the documents said. > Subaru says the problem can be **fixed by dealers with a simple software flash**. “It s really an easy fix for the customer ” [Audi Volkswagen Skoda 766 000 vehicles in total](http: www.thedrive.com news 12186 volkswagen-recalls-766000-cars-globally-for-brake-issue) > Under some conditions such as “when the driver over-steers under-steers or slams on the brakes ” the anti-lock brake system may fail. **The issue can reportedly be fixed with a software update**. [Toyota 400 000 vehicles in total](https: www.computerworld.com article 2520732 enterprise-applications toyota-to-recall-prius-hybrids-over-abs-software.html) > but when the ABS cuts in the cars switch to hydraulic braking only which can result in reduced braking performance and a longer stopping distance. > It will see **new software loaded into the car that should improve braking** while ABS is active at low speeds the company said. [Volkswagen 135 000 vehicles in total](https: www.automotive-fleet.com 138468 volkswagen-recall-addresses-antilock-brakes-in-older-cars) > To fix the problem dealers will **update the ABS control module software and improve the module s self-testing abilities** [Chrysler 150 000 vehicles in total](https: www.cnet.com roadshow news 2017-chrysler-pacifica-recall-software-glitch-stall ) > Chrysler dealers **will install updated engine control software** on affected models free of charge. And most recently... https: www.reuters.com article us-fiat-chrysler-recall fiat-chrysler-recalls-4-8-million-u-s-vehicles-for-cruise-control-defect-idUSKCN1IQ1QY I realize there are some old and new vehicles in the links I provided but if you do research yourself you ll see that this affects nearly everyone. So when you see things in the news about Tesla remember that they often have an advantage because every car can get an over-the-air software update (except for the original Roadster). And most issues can be fixed with software. Just imagine how much money will be saved if a software update can prevent the need to physically bring in a vehicle when Tesla has over a million vehicles on the road and they can ensure everyone gets the update overnight. Sometimes it s important to provide perspective especially when the car company has been doing over the air updates [since 2012](https: www.motorauthority.com news 1077081_tesla-releases-final-2012-model-s-production-video-ahead-of-friday-deliveries) and they are near the heart of Silicon Valley where software talent thrives. | 110110 | 2018-05-23 12:21:46 | 223 | dzfwfcx | Also in just the past month BMW has recalled over 300 000 vehicles due to the likelihood of stalling when being driven https: www.independent.co.uk news business news bmw-recall-3-series-z4-x1-car-safety-issues-uk-latest-a8342851.html?amp Mere weeks after that they announced another recall due to a fire risk in the 3 Series https: www.autocar.co.uk car-news industry bmw-issues-new-recall-294000-uk-3-series-due-fan-fire-issue Safety recalls are an unfortunate reality in an imperfect world. Edit: So this just came out today https: www.bbc.com news amp technology-44224794 Hackers were able to find a number of vulnerabilities in BMW s software. | afishinacloud | 2018-05-23 13:10:23 | 61 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
nis926 | A little confused about the buying process. | Today I test drove a Model 3 and immediately went home and “ordered” by paying the $100. I thought that was all I had to do until the car was available? In the account I see the section for Payment Method where I can choose cash lease finance etc along with the financing terms (down payment etc) which would bring me to the credit check. I assumed I would do that all later when the car was available. I obviously don t want to hold anything up but is going through with the steps a commitment to buying the car? If I complete the steps and decide I want to put more or less down upfront when the time comes can I? | bzdnk | 2021-05-22 21:12:57 | 48 | gz3ht1w | You can change everything later don t stress over it. | ss68and66 | 2021-05-22 21:29:24 | 78 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
7of8it | A little general look at why there aren t any real electric competitors to Tesla s vehicles. | I m seeing this a lot that nobody seems to be taking electric cars seriously and that none of the manufactures seem to care about creating a proper electric car. Well there s kind of a reason for that and it s not because they don t care. To build a proper electric car you need a chassis built for it. Most drivetrain options require a large amount of open space at the front of the car (For the engine front suspension) a tunnel running down the middle (exhaust and drivetrain if RWD) and a wide area running laterally across the rear (rear suspension diff and axles if RWD). So you platform expandability rests on how big those spaces are. More front space means a bigger engine extra space means the potential for a hybrid setup etc. But what it doesn t do is make for a very good electric car which requires a long and wide empty space below the seats with only small amounts of empty space at the front and rear. Which means we need a new platform that can support that. Now if we re a big manufacturer and want to tackle this electric problem properly we re going to have to figure out how to make it an expandable platform. For example VAG s MQB platform underpins everything between the Audi TT and the VW Tiguan. This all takes time and a lot of money. Then you have to figure out if you can actually get your hands on enough bits and pieces to actually build the thing. McDonalds for example can t sell certain things because the amount they would require would outstrip the worlds ability to produce it. Similarly GM VAG or anyone else can t mass market a fleet of electric cars if they can t get enough batteries to make the things. This means acquiring or purchasing it from people who can or giving it money to companies who have the potential to so they can build up their production. Tesla is a small manufacture has the ability to put people on waiting lists and for better or worse make people beta testers. On the otherhand if Honda wants to electrify their Civic with 300 miles of range they re going to be expected to build a Honda-quality vehicle and be available for purchase straight away. The Model S has ultimately only been out for less than 6 years and only has proven it s worth as a viable sellable mass market product for even less. On the other hand to create a totally new platform with such a drastic architecture change takes time. Lots of time. We re talking a first boardroom meeting to first production car of nearly a decade. GM BMW and every other major player only currently have the short term ability to toy around with rudely shoving electric drivetrains into platforms that were never designed to accommodate them while they funnel that knowledge into the platforms deep under development. Proper electric cars are coming. I would be genuinely surprised if the major manufactures aren t building equivalent cars behind the scenes. They re just not here yet thanks to that development time. It s not like a smartphone or something where you can see what your competition is doing and crank out and equivalent product a year or two later. For better or for worse the Model S caught the industry with its pants down and it simply hasn t been out long enough for real competitive products to hit the market. Don t expect any real competition to be announced until at least 2020 and for the first cars to start rolling out closer to 2025 for the simple fact it takes a *lot* of time to build a new platform from scratch. The best you ll see until then are compliance cars and the like. Take for example the roadster. By the late 1970 s the roadster was dead and buried. Nobody cared about them very few companies built them. Mazda decided to give them a crack and released the Miata MX-5 in 1989 and they flew of the lot as fast as Mazda could put them together and more or less proved to the world that there was money to be made reviving the roadster. However it wasn t until closer to 2000 where competing manufacturers like Honda with their S2000 and Toyota with the MR-S were able to start selling their answer to a then-decade old Miata that was already on its second generation. | Captain_Alaska | 2018-01-05 23:20:04 | 31 | ds95qz1 | You make some very good points I think people really underestimate the sheer amount of time needed to go from the first brainstorming meeting to a reliable and economically mass produced car. This makes what Tesla has been able to do all the more impressive. In many cases they are doing in 5 years what the big companies would have done in 10 years if they did it at all. But Tesla does have some advantages as a start up they can set really ambitious targets and move very quickly in a way that a GM or Toyota would find very difficult. It s the innovator s dilemma: https: en.wikipedia.org wiki The_Innovator%27s_Dilemma | rweba | 2018-01-06 00:42:49 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
44ql07 | A little insight needed re: Electric Vehicles | Hi all! I m a big Tesla fan let me be clear. I just found [this] (https: www.youtube.com watch?v=17xh_VRrnMU) video and perhaps some of you have already seen it. I apologise if this has been posted already. I m posting here due to the fact that it mentions specific Tesla numbers and quite frankly Tesla is the king of electric cars. Now immediately after seeing that I found it hard to believe especially with so many car companies now moving into electric vehicle development. So from your view point with evidence if possible how legitimate is this claim? Again apologies if reposted just trying to get a good conversation going here and some answers. | TheEarthquakeGuy | 2016-02-08 11:49:47 | 12 | czs57yo | There are 4 things that are missed in this video from important to unimportant: * The electric mix is changing world wide more green electricity is added everyday and with the current rate in about 10 years 100% of the mix will be renewable (solar wind hydro) in the us europe * A car lasts longer then 90k miles * energy produced by a coal-plant is way more efficient then a small engine in a car. * If more of the world gets electric the product CO2 emissions will go down with it. Let me elaborate on this. Currently there is no electric truck they run on diesel a Tesla is moved with a diesel truck pick-up. The lithium mining is done on diesel. Since its not economical feasible to do this electric (at the current time). In the coming years electric will slowly move down the line from a mass-market Model 3 > small delivery van > small truck > big truck > bulldozer and other mining equipment. As a result the CO2 emissions can only go further down and will NEVER go up again. The problem with this video is that he is comparing them right now not the what if we would continue this trend down the road in several years. I think he would be most happy to just do nothing and wait for the planet to die on us. Ever ton CO2 is one less and we got to start somewhere! | xhoy | 2016-02-08 13:00:52 | 18 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
b67223 | A little more color on how the audio bug report feature works. | I always assumed that when you press the voice button and said bug report followed by a description of whatever glitch you were noticing it just was sent off to a Tesla customer service rep somewhere. Well yesterday I stopped into my local service center to point out some minor issues I was having so they would have it noted in my file for the next time I needed to bring the car in. While going over the problems the service tech pressed the voice control button and said Bug report: Test seats. She said when you issue a bug report verbal command it s actually sent to your local service center. It sends the audio recorded and takes a screenshot of both your displays (or single display for just Model 3) and logs some basic information about the current car stats while adding a flag to your log file for the timestamp when you made the report. So in my case when I brought the car in my file would already say test seats . < Edit for clairity> It logs the things mentioned above on your car and when the service tech opens the logs when you bring the car in the bug report is there it doesn t send it over LTE wifi unless they remotely check the car.< edit> She recommended when you use the audio bug report feature to have the map up on your screen if possible so they can see where the car is. While it does include the latitude and longitude info when you make the report it s just numbers so having the map up can be helpful for the service tech to quickly figure out where you were especially if it s an autopilot related bug. Larger issues get forwarded on to Tesla HQ but issues specific to your car stay at the service center noted in your file. In a humorous twist my microphone was one of the things having issues so it took a few tries for her to get the car to understand Bug Report: Microphone test . | -QuestionMark- | 2019-03-27 17:29:02 | 75 | ejidkqr | Looks like I ve been wasting my time with all the incorrect speed limit corrections. | NohJay-Consortium | 2019-03-27 17:57:00 | 37 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
9eofvs | A little toooo much fun | Wife and I went to Vermont for the weekend to scope potential vacation homes. We drove nearly 800 total miles from our home in N. Central MA to northern VT then all over VT then back home. & #x200B On Saturday afternoon after going through our itinerary we headed to Stowe where we had a room booked for the night. & #x200B Driving on the twisty mountain roads is highly addictive and it got the best of me on one stretch. I was behind someone doing 49 in a 50 for miles and miles. Pretty boring stuff. & #x200B At the top of a crest he turned off and the road opened up in front of me. & #x200B I gave the pedal a good shove and accelerated downhill and around the bend onto a nice straight..... & #x200B The unassuming white SUV parked on the opposite side of the road facing me swung out and flipped on the usual set of hidden police lights. (DAMN) & #x200B He gets to the car and we go through the usual exchange....luckily he TOLD me he clocked me at 63 accelerating QUICKLY up to and past 70.... Had he ASKED me how fast I was going I wouldn t have been able to say. It FELT like 50...lol & #x200B He tells me that if my Vermont driving record is clean I d receive a written warning if it was dirty I d be getting a summons. & #x200B (It was clean) & #x200B TL DR Twisty mountain roads are super fun. P3D makes it a little tough to judge your speed accurately. Cop gave me a written warning instead of a ticket for \~20+ over. & #x200B as we were pulling away I told my wife that if he was going to give me a ticket I d have let him drive it for a few miles so he d understand....LOL | Electric_Luv | 2018-09-10 16:01:25 | 35 | e5qep0g | I find myself driving much faster (albeit short bursts) in Teslas than I do in my BMW M3. Something about no gears no noise makes the speed not as apparent until you look down and you see you are WELL over the limit. The acceleration is addicting but you gotta watch out because the highway patrol will get ya (and I suppose it s dangerous illegal). In case anyone is unaware you never admit what speed you were going if an officer asks you. They are trying to get you to admit fault. You just play dumb and say you were watching the road not looking down at the gauge cluster. Being respectful and polite doesn t hurt either. | fatecrew2000 | 2018-09-10 17:14:03 | 34 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6twuil | A loophole for Tesla to sell in Michigan? | I was just reading this [Teslarati article](http: www.teslarati.com tesla-used-car-expansion-triple-sales ) about how Tesla is ramping up their efforts to sell pre-owned inventory and it mentions how Tesla is fighting Michigan for its right to sell new cars there. The article also mentions Michigan s current Anti-Tesla law only restricts new car sales. So I had an idea. What if Tesla opened a store in Michigan (or other states that currently restrict new car sales by the manufacturer) that only sold USED Teslas. You can come look at used car inventory test drive used cars have your used car serviced etc. Most of the offerings a normal Tesla store would have but you just can t order a new car there. I think this would be beneficial for Tesla because they could really penetrate the Michigan market in a way that s currently legal while they still continue to fight for the ability to sell new cars there. Am I crazy? | TheNewJasonBourne | 2017-08-15 20:16:19 | 42 | dlo5na5 | Why not? Also an inventory car can be converted into a used car by tilting it to an entity. They could lease a demo car to a showroom for six months take the tax credit themselves then sell the car in Michigan as a used car. It s convoluted but with some planning it could work. | majesticjg | 2017-08-15 20:38:18 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
nrr9xr | A lot of New Inventory on West Coast Model 3 Y | Looks like dealers are getting rid of most of their demo vehicles on the west coast. Looking at the Bay Area and Seattle there are a lot of model Y s and 3 s. Are they just cycling them out for new ones? | TheSilentRinger | 2021-06-03 23:38:39 | 17 | h0i5fph | Fairly typical end-of-qtr behavior - the will try to sell everything. | o2go | 2021-06-03 23:50:12 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
3pc78r | A lot of promised features have been stripped in the new Autopilot page | With the release of v7 in the U.S. Tesla updated the information page on their website where they slightly altered the section about Autopilot. At first I naturally thought it was merely to keep it a bit more up to date with the final design of the UI and such but then I noticed that a lot of features that were originally marketed are now gone. Comparing [teslamotors.com](http: www.teslamotors.com models#autopilot) with [teslamotors.com en_EU ](http: www.teslamotors.com en_EU models#autopilot) you can see that the main text have been changed from > Autopilot combines a forward looking camera radar and 360 degree sonar sensors with real time traffic updates to automatically drive Model S on the open road and in dense stop and go traffic. Changing lanes becomes as simple as a tap of the turn signal. When you arrive at your destination Model S will both detect a parking spot and automatically park itself. **Standard equipment safety features are constantly monitoring stop signs traffic signals and pedestrians as well as for unintentional lane changes.** to > Autopilot allows Model S to steer within a lane change lanes with the simple tap of a turn signal and manage speed by using active traffic-aware cruise control. Digital control of motors brakes and steering helps avoid collisions from the front and sides as well as preventing the car from wandering off the road. Model S can also scan for a parking space alert you when one is available and parallel park on command. Notice how the last part have been completely scrapped majorly changing the described functionality of autopilot. Further down Tesla previously also featured a large section about the promised parking functionality: > Autopilot Parking > Model S helps you find a parking spot and automatically parks in it. In the city it will notify you when it finds a parallel parking spot then control steering acceleration and deceleration to back smoothly into it. When approaching a Supercharger station Model S automatically parks in an open stall. Model S will even park itself in your garage at home. > With calendar syncing enabled Model S checks current traffic conditions to determine how much time is needed to make your first meeting of the day. At the right time it turns on the climate control and opens the garage door. On private property Model S will even pull out of the garage and meet you at the curb. Except for a very short description of automatic parallell parking this entire section is now gone. Now this doesn t necessarily mean that these features have been permanently shelved. However so far there have been a lot of loose promises of marvellous future updates and to then just silently take them back is some very peculiar behaviour if you ask me. Thoughts? Am I merely being overly petty? | Perkelton | 2015-10-19 10:48:32 | 22 | cw53c9q | Not being overly petty just graduating to level 2 of tesla ownership. I don t have many complaints about Tesla but one is their routine habit of over promising on things that don t exist yet (physically and sometimes even technically). As a casual observer of the company you don t see those small things add up over time. As an owner and more passionate fan of the company you start catching all the details. And it s silly really because what they _do_ end up doing is g.d. amazing. If they would just properly managed expectations a little better everyone of us would remain in awe. | alexucf | 2015-10-19 13:05:04 | 16 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
nx0ks8 | A lot of talk and hype around the Model S Plaid who s with me waiting for their long range VIN? 🙋🏽♂️ | I know the plaid is going to be an amazing vehicle and the hype around it is justified especially with tonight s event. But we can t forget about the long range! I m currently sitting on a September delivery date. Long Range White on white 21” Arachnid Who else is excited for their long range? | TMobileSpy | 2021-06-10 22:36:09 | 53 | h1c6och | Ordered prerefresh in January - no delivery date. Certainly no VIN Edit: black with white interior | pmodizzle | 2021-06-10 22:53:20 | 29 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
b11byh | A lot of the biggest objections to EVs from the past five years have evaporated | A lot of the concerns I ve read in recent years are more about all electric cars but with Tesla being the only company selling significant volume in the US the complaints tend to focus on Tesla. **They charge too slow**... This seems to have been addressed in recent weeks. Even a few months ago I saw people arguing that a 30-40 wait time to get back to their road trips was a deal breaker. I think after 4-5 hours of driving you really should take a break but I understand that many people disagree and with multiple drivers it s not an unreasonable concern. But now you can get several hours of range in 15-20 minutes. **Not enough SuperChargers**... More are being built and there s a different sweet spot for everyone. Every week the number of buyers for whom this is no longer a concern drops. And with faster charging the capacity per stall has increased dramatically. **They re too expensive**... up until the SR Model 3 was released this was true for most buyers certainly for me. KBB says the [average new car cost in the US is over $35k](https: www.prnewswire.com news-releases average-new-car-prices-jump-2-percent-for-march-2018-on-suv-sales-strength-according-to-kelley-blue-book-300623110.html) as of 2018. That means half of all car buyers are paying more than $35k already. In many cases they re buying SUVs or trucks but this has still brought the cost within reach to a significant percentage of buyers. Still not me buy my 2 year old used car was $38k new so we re getting closer. The tax credit reduces it further though that s going to end. The reduced per mile costs can also offset the cost of adding features. **Batteries replacement is too expensive**... likely still true but US News & World Report stated that after 150 000 miles the Tesla batteries on average [only lose 8% of their range](https: cars.usnews.com cars-trucks why-people-dont-buy-electric-cars). Not many cars even last 150 000 miles. That s 92% capacity after 10-15 years of typical driving (the average is [13 576 per year](https: www.fhwa.dot.gov ohim onh00 bar8.htm).) **Lack of service centers**... This is less important when mobile technicians will come to you to make repairs. **Fire hazard**... this has been pretty widely debunked. The number of Tesla fires occuring for any reason other than catastrophic loss is exceptionally low and overall is [ perhaps slightly less ](https: money.cnn.com 2018 05 17 news companies electric-car-fire-risk index.html) than for an ICE vehicle. **I want to buy a care TODAY**... It s true you can t go into a showroom and drive away in a new Tesla today. Lead times for orders has improved significantly but they don t have excess inventory sitting around. The flip side to this is they don t require a high-pressure sales staff like traditional car companies do which likely results in the exceptionally high customer satisfaction enjoyed by Model 3 owners who are the most likely of all car buyers to buy another one today. So that s it. That s my thinking. Most of the complaints have dissolved in the last few months or years. I welcome corrections and dissent and I thank you for getting this far. ) | DonQuixBalls | 2019-03-14 15:00:13 | 175 | eiij7iq | And this is why anyone who is able to project forward knew that Tesla had the right idea. Yes 5 years ago many of these concerns were valid. However if you understood that all of these facets would improve over time you understood that eventually EVs would take over. We are just starting to see that now with the Model 3 and it will only accelerate. Nothing about Tesla s technological improvements should surprise anyone who was paying attention. Separately there are still things that Tesla can do better (specifically service) but this is not a show-stopper. There is no technological hurdle or barrier that s going to prevent widespread EV adoption and that s really fantastic to see. | Xilverbolt | 2019-03-14 15:12:13 | 43 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
klte89 | A lot of wasted space in new update... | Im kind of bummed that the map and radio is smaller as well as the speed etc and we have just a GIANT white space around the car. Anyway to change this that I am not seeing? | Raspberries-Are-Evil | 2020-12-28 16:18:52 | 176 | ghas4a2 | Elon also confirmed on Twitter that there will be a mechanism by which you can change the screen layout. Small map big map etc. | JustinModel3 | 2020-12-28 16:25:26 | 106 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5iqzih | A major impediment to 100% self-driving? | I m excited about our imminent future of driverless Teslas but this has been been nagging at the back of my mind: What would a driverless car do if it hit someone s cat while on the way to say picking up its next Tesla Network fare or parking itself somewhere? Or worse what if it hit an unidentified object that happens to be a person? If the car were simply dealing with a rare navigation problem (e.g. a very confusing construction zone) I could see that being resolved via a virtual driver in a remote call center. In this scenario though I don t really see a way the car would accurately assess the situation give immediate aid rally bystanders like a human driver could. | verdantlabs | 2016-12-16 21:55:35 | 16 | dbabgam | > being resolved via a virtual driver in a remote call center. Holy fuck this is an ingenious idea | MrGruntsworthy | 2016-12-16 22:09:04 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dck0om | A mattress for camping in your Model 3 that fits in the sub-trunk | [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=UyXzsyAg2jI](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=UyXzsyAg2jI) After sleeping in my Model 3 for 10 days while going cross country I came across a bunch of pain-points with the foam mattress I was using. Mainly it took up too much space wasn t the most comfortable and was too difficult to set up break down. I know Dreamcase exists but IMO it s way too expensive and takes up too much space… soo naturally I spent the last 4 months developing a mattress for Model 3 that fits in the sub-trunk when compressed. I hope you guys like it! Let me know what you think if you have any questions about the product and for those of you that have camped in your Model 3 before please share your experiences because I absolutely love it! [https: www.tesmat.com](https: www.tesmat.com ) | djgeorgevas | 2019-10-03 01:30:14 | 560 | f28pwa9 | Great idea well executed very fair price. My only concern is that the separate mats shift around as I move on them. I ve had this issue with as few as 2 pieces I can t imagine 6. Can I recommend a tweak where the seams would be attached either sewn and folded or by adding industrial velcro to the sides of the mats? | SteamingPileAjit | 2019-10-03 01:56:14 | 75 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8pc4y0 | A message to the Mods and r TeslaMotors from u dirtyfries | #####This is FROM u dirtyfries not u 110110. Please stop assumung I m an employee they couldn t pay me enough! > Hi everyone > I wanted to thank you all for the welcome and privilege of being a mod here. When I first came on a few weeks ago I was asked by the other mods during my screening if I was an employee of Tesla. I had performed freelance part time work for them in the past and disclosed that. This sub has been a personal passion for me pretty much since I began those assorted projects almost 3 years ago and was excited to participate further. > But I was also in the process of moving beyond an associate position with occasional projects and gaining a full staff position there. That happened and I should disclose that I m an employee. > It was pointed out to me by a friend that through this process I was misleading in the urgency of this step. And that my role as a moderator here brings up lots of questions surrounding bias good faith and transparency. I want to apologize to the current mods for essentially wasting their time. And I want to apologize to this sub as a whole for not being completely forthright with you. That was wrong. > I also shouldn t be spending my days on this subreddit I should be churning out work for the good of this company. I m obsessed with this sub and it shows. > As such I think it s appropriate that I step down from my moderator position. I realize my tenure was very brief and this appears pretty silly but I think my friend is right in that I should have been far more forthcoming and that the optics can be poor or misconstrued. I may consider myself unbiased but for the good of the sub we shouldn t have to debate my leanings every time I take a mod action - I m acting on my own but if you as a user can t know that for certain it destroys the credibility of our subreddit. > I also believe it is best for me personally to maintain a professional separation. > I enjoy talking with you all but for now need to step back. You all deserve better. I know the current and future mods will do an amazing job. > \- df > PS: On a personal note let s not shy away from critical articles here. Tesla isn t perfect. We should welcome stories that report failings or inconsistencies and discuss them in a rational matter so those problems can be improved upon to make Tesla a better company. Those discussions often spur educational material for many. > Don t allow this to become an echo chamber where we yell ‘fake news . If it s false pick it apart with facts. If it isn t own it as a fan and demand better. If I leave everyone with one thing it s that I d love to see a heightened level of discourse around here. > PPS: And no I won t be sharing any secrets. I don t know any and if I did still wouldn t share them. Come on. | 110110 | 2018-06-07 17:18:39 | 170 | e0ab13r | I have been trying to post comments for a while here always getting blocked for low Karma wonder if this goes through. Would like to participate in future discussions. | DeadPoolBrother | 2018-06-07 19:38:16 | 134 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
9si33j | A month-long affair with my Model 3 | I took it in to get serviced this morning. Just a couple build quality issues (donthateme). And they gave me an Infiniti Q70 as a loaner. Oh shit. This car was like driving a boat on rough seas. It s probably as big as the Model S. I can only describe the way it drives one way: gooey. The accelerator takes time to do anything. It s loud as fuck. It rumbles. Why does the navigation screen make a Gameboy look good? It updates like 1 frame per second. Who the hell designed this infotainment system? Was it an elementary school project? Where the shit do I actually enter in an address? And dear lord why do I have to keep my foot on the brake at a stop light? I kept trying to use the wheel stalks to put it into Drive when I first sat down. Only then did I realize there was a shifter sitting there like a dick waiting for me to grab it. I swear I put that bitch in drive like twice only to hit the pedal and nothing happens. Why the shit did you guys put neutral so close to drive? AND WHAT THE FUCK ARE ALL THESE GOD DAMN BUTTONS?! Thankfully my new hell only lasted a day and I just got back from the service center with little Johnny parked and happy. FAQ: 1) Yes this is sort of satire but I also couldn t believe how unusable a traditional car felt after driving a Model 3 for a month. 2) What did a regular car feel like to you after driving a Model X 3 S for a while? 3) No number 2 isn t really a FAQ. But I d still like your opinion. This is a discussion medium after all. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 4) There is no other FAQ question. 5) Yep I called it a Frequently Asked Question question. 6) Thanks for the gold. | domiran | 2018-10-29 22:41:55 | 77 | e8oy2g8 | I had borrowed a Nissan Xterra from my father in the month leading up to buying my Volt. After driving the Volt for a week I drove my Dad s truck back to him... 300 miles away. It only took a week with the Volt to completely ruin the driving experience of ICE vehicles for me. I was discussing this in another thread recently but really once you get used to a car that does what you tell it to do the moment you tell it to anything lacking the instant torque of an EV actually starts to feel unsafe. | Phaedrus0230 | 2018-10-29 22:59:09 | 30 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
9p2ie0 | A more universal place for wishlist items feature requests. | Forum after forum and site after site I see several places where people make wishlists or feature requests for Tesla to (hopefully) look at and implement. I put together [https: www.teslawl.com ](https: www.teslawl.com ) as a unified place for everyone to contribute. I was hoping that this would cut down on the duplication and scattered nature of this sort of thing. Open for suggestions... Also another poster mentioned this today but the minimum character count in these sort of posts seems to be a bit high. I think I got my point across in my original text but got a message that the character count wasn t high enough. I see posts with only a title and a link which I think wouldn t suit my post w o some sort of description intro. | kramdam | 2018-10-17 20:50:17 | 14 | e7ykrgt | [Relevant xkcd](https: xkcd.com 927 ) | zxn11 | 2018-10-17 21:25:17 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ak9dfi | A new Tesla is now very expensive in RHD markets and “other Europe” | Now the 75 pack has been removed from sale in RHD markets and “other Europe” there is no cheaper option when buying a new Tesla than the £88 800 Model S 100D or a Model X 100D for £90 800. There was a point in 2016 where you could buy a new Model S 60 for £53 000 (maybe even less). How are sales in these markets and when will the Model 3 fill that void? Will this lack of clarity (estimate 2019) hurt Tesla in these markets? I d really like to hear these questions answered on the earnings call. I see mostly 75 packs in the UK was it the most popular version? | ichorus_sco | 2019-01-27 05:40:52 | 26 | ef2rim1 | > when will the Model 3 fill that void? That is the eventual solution. Unless there is still some inventory of 75D that they can sell off. Unfortunately I seems likely that is was not worth keeping 75D production going just for these markets. I m sure a key reason for this change is to increase Model 3 production volumes that might help us RHD customers. I am getting a Model 3 there are more Model 3 buyers in relation to the number of unsatisfied 75D buyers. > I d really like to hear these questions answered on the earnings call. I agree I am expecting some answers. I ll be surprised if there are no questions on this topic. | M3FanOZ | 2019-01-27 06:02:05 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9qvyji | A new perspective on the way Tesla makes hardware updates to their vehicles. | This just means that the Model S and X won t necessarily need a huge refresh to start using their new 2170 batteries. They ll just need to redesign the pack frame body and anything else that s needed accordingly. I used to think that if the Model S and X didn t get a major refresh that they wouldn t get an updated battery pack with their new battery cells. The way Elon puts it they might just need the bare minimum of changes however little or a lot that is in order for them to utilize the 2170 batteries. Now I m thinking that they ll either time or fast track the updated battery pack when the S and X have real competition. Why raise demand when you re already selling as many as you can build? And why raise the bar to give your competition something better to aim at? You could raise it after they ve already committed to making something that only competes with your previously set bar or may even surpass. If they aim to compete with the updated battery pack then they ll be very likely to make your earlier iterations seen even more obsolete which would effect their resale value. | TuroSaave | 2018-10-24 03:00:06 | 14 | e8cdidx | > They ll just need to redesign the pack frame body and anything else that s needed accordingly. Yeah easy peasy. | itsjustkeyrock | 2018-10-24 04:57:13 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7ej4z3 | A new round of reservations for the model 3. | I have been following the discussion about the tesla model 3 production and reservations on this sub for some time. I have seen people arguing that the number of reservations will either stay the same or go down but I think either of these scenarios is unlikely and the no of reservations will actually go up. Here is my reasoning: 1. The model 3 got 400 000 reservations before the unveiling of the car for a tentative delivery in 2018-19. We can say about this group of people that they are really really passionate about the car and tesla. They had blind trust in tesla. If these people didn t like the car etc they would have cancelled it then but they didn t so it seems they liked what they were getting. These reservations are not going anywhere unless the car is delayed beyond 2019 because anything else is better than what they signed up for. 2. Tesla doesn t advertise like traditional automakers. What most people have heard about tesla is second hand either good or bad recently mostly bad cough....shorts.....cough. When the model 3 starts deliveries you have very passionate people with a car that is very great value pushing their friends and family to buy it. The referral bonus is great in this regard. 3. And finally when you have a good model 3 production rate and 2 3 months of peole getting their cars on schedule you finally have a realistic timeline that most people need before making a 1000 dollar investment. So in summary I think the model 3 reservations are going to go up significantly in Q1 or Q2 2018 and tesla will have a backlog of 6 months of model 3 orders through first half of 2019. Add to that a possible short squeeze during the first half of next year. It is going to be a fun year. | Drdontlittle | 2017-11-21 16:40:48 | 23 | dq5ak4l | Two points. First time is not currently their friend. The longer any delays go on the more opportunity there is for: the tax credit to expire people s current car to break down and require immediate replacement leases to expire that were banking on particular release time frames life events to happen. All of these could generally negatively affect somebody decision to maintain a reservation. Second you are assuming a relatively good execution on the public delivery side. Yes if all goes well and people start seeing them in the wild AND they are getting positive reviews you will definitely see an increase in new reservations. On the flip side if people are reporting all kinds of quality issues software that isn t done etc. you may see the opposite. It s simply too early to tell at this point and speculating while it s the pastime of this subreddit doesn t really amount to a hill of beans. We will jist have to wait and see. | hchux | 2017-11-21 16:49:35 | 15 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9u4f5l | A noob s lesson: Always bring your charging cord and don t trust the Chargepoint Plugshare maps. | This is a tale of range anxiety that became all too real ... and it was completely avoidable. I accept culpability and pass this story along so you don t repeat my mistakes. Yesterday we took a trip out to a casino hotel that is about 90 miles west of my home. It was my first significant excursion with my two week old Model 3. The car was charged to 82% (245 miles) before we left so I thought I had plenty of range for the excursion. And there are destination chargers at the casino. Stupidly I did NOT bring the charging cord along for the ride. I set our cruising speed max at 70 mph and we headed west. When we arrived I plugged into a destination charger for 30 minutes or so. We met up with friends and I gave them a 15 minute demonstration ride which featured a few 0-60 hole shots. I plugged back into the destination charger rounded up the rest of my group. We decided to skip the buffet and eat at another place along our route home. I set navigation for home and the car notified me to keep my speed under 55 mph to make it home without charging. It showed that we d make it with only 20 miles to spare. The terrain is pretty flat this is the prairie land where tales by Laura Ingalls Wilder and Garrison Keillor have their setting. It was raining steadily and 36 degrees F (2 degrees C). The car notified us that if temps dropped much further range would be impaired. We shut off the heat seat heaters dimmed the display and shut off navigation to conserve energy. On my phone Chargepoint and Plugshare show a charging station in Hutchinson MN. We decided to take a small detour to it so we could charge while eating. Sadly there is no charging station. There is only a 120 volt outlet with a sign EV Charging Here . It was ICEd by cars but I didn t bring the charging cord anyway so that didn t really matter. We ate at the Applebee s across the street and mulled over our options. Eventually we decided to maximize range by keeping speed under 40 MPH and figured we could park it at the Mills Fleet Farm in Carver MN ... the first big box store lot along our route ... if we were falling short then take Uber home from there. We watched the Wh mile graph closely as we limped along and achieved an economy of 195 Wh mi (5 mile average) for most of the ride. We made it home with 1% 2 miles remaining. Phew. Lessons learned: 1) Bring the charger and an extension cord. 2) Drive economically. 0-60 hole shots are really costly. 40 MPH = 195 Wh mile in near-freezing weather on flat terrain. 3) Don t pass up the chance to add range. (Feed people at the buffet while the car feeds at the Tesla Destination Charger.) 4) Have a plan B. Chargepoint and Plugshare maps should not be counted upon. 5) Don t drive like me. Think! edit: 6) Charge up to 100% when going on a trip. 7) You drive distance not % of energy capacity. When range might be a factor change display to distance. | frowawayduh | 2018-11-04 16:00:42 | 131 | e91d50s | 6) Charge up to 100% when going on a trip. | ChessNotCheckers_ | 2018-11-04 16:04:41 | 58 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
52ix7z | A note on autopilot and a hour commute | I commit 25 miles to work which usually takes about an hour. Stop and go the whole why. It drains you mentally and by the time I get in I m beat. Today I used autopilot on my new MX 60D and it was magic. No stress when I got in. Going home was even better. I m near falling asleep usually. | dressinbrass | 2016-09-13 05:34:21 | 65 | d7koe9g | Agree 100%. In stop-and-go traffic AP is incredible. | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2016-09-13 06:09:20 | 30 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
5we6ci | A plea for more detailed supercharger information | I plugged into completely vacant Temecula yesterday at 15% battery and the initial 110 kW the charger started at slumped down to 30kW. I moved to another stall same behavior. I called the tesla number to ask what was going on and the service rep could immediately provide me my answer he said Let s see yeah that stall is currently showing fluctuating power actually all except 4B are. I m showing 4B as the only one with full power. I plugged into 4B and sure enough immediately got 112 kW (highest I see anywhere). He mentioned they have service scheduled for Temecula but I saw the same problem at this spot a few months ago. So why do I have to call for this information? We can see how many stalls are available now which is nice but we really need Tesla to give us information about which stalls have full power available. As I was leaving I saw a brand new tesla approaching with paper tags and felt bad because that new owner probably wouldn t know what was going on and just sit there at 30 kW. | immolated_ | 2017-02-27 02:35:02 | 22 | de9hmu9 | https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads superchargers-super-slow.81432 This issue has been widely reported these past three months. I m with you Tesla *needed* to start reporting these debilitated Superchargers yesterday. | ikjadoon | 2017-02-27 04:14:06 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
euibev | A positive Model 3 repair story! Shocking!! | In the final days of December another driver rear-ended my Model 3 when I was at a four-way stop. She tried blaming me -- told her insurance company I reversed into her. I laughed and sent them the Tesla cam footage end of story. I even circled the driver s face in the footage -- where she was looking at her phone (or possibly the car stereo) as she drove into me. She hit my bumper and the rear quarter panel. Tesla service center in Burbank said they could have fixed the bumper -- it bolts on -- but the quarter panel needed to be welded on so they sent me to an approved body shop nearby (Los Angeles). With all the repair horror stories I wanted to share a positive story for once. The body shop had a 5-star reputation on Yelp and while the Tesla service rep said he couldn t specifically recommend one shop over another -- when I asked if they were good he said absolutely. And I confirmed on Tesla s website that they were an approved body shop. Body shop had both body parts in stock but they said the delay was the welding. To weld on the quarter panel they had to first remove the battery -- otherwise it could damage the battery (I heard someone else say it could also kill the welder? Not sure if that s accurate or not?). And to remove the batterty they essentially had to strip the car down to the frame. Remove everything. So this otherwise simple repair went from $4 000 to $18 000 in the blink of an eye the vast majority being the labor it would take to disassemble and then reassemble the car. Yikes. Bonus good luck? They were an approved body shop for the other driver s insurance company. Which means all $ went directly to them and I didn t have to worry about a thing. Body shop estimated a three-week repair assuming Tesla sent all the parts that were needed (parts underneath the exterior... brackets and the like). Well Tesla emailed me an update a few days later that all requested parts had been shipped and after exactly three weeks my Model 3 was ready for pickup. Seriously it was smooth and straightforward. Body shop told me the Tesla parts nightmare still happened on occasion but that it had become quite rare and they were getting really good at delivering parts on time. Meanwhile I was driving a Model S from Enterprise car rental because I told the insurance company I had no intention of having to buy gas while my car was repaired and the only car I could charge at home with my Tesla wall unit was another Tesla. I ve had my Model 3 back since Friday and it s looking great. So maybe just maybe the parts nightmare stories are mostly in the past now.... & #x200B edit: if you re bored here s a link to the dashcam footage that I d posted last month. [https: www.reddit.com r TeslaCam comments ec4nph i\_wasnt\_going\_to\_post\_the\_video\_until\_she\_told ](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaCam comments ec4nph i_wasnt_going_to_post_the_video_until_she_told ) | FilmYak | 2020-01-27 03:47:34 | 115 | ffptnke | For every bad story there s hundreds of positive experiences. I had homelink installed at my house by the mobile service tech. It was great. BMW and Porsche have never come over to fix my cars. | stunkcrunk | 2020-01-27 06:08:03 | 35 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
nq9vng | A positive review of my Tesla experience | TLDR: I have had nothing but positive experience with all of my interactions with both Tesla solar and my model Y purchase and service. I am in no way discrediting the negative reviews. The information should be represented. However so should positive experiences. I have had a 16kw Tesla solar system in Florida for about 8 months. The process was easy and took little effort and interaction on my part to get going or completed. The sale associate was always available when I had a question he was based in Las Vegas so there was a few hours time difference but that wasn t a hindrance. Time lines were kept or exceeded. The county inspector found a small issue with my existing electrical grounding system before sign off and Tesla had an electrician out there the next day at no expense to me. According to the inspector I was on the hook for the grounding system and said he has known Tesla to cover the expense nearly 600 dollars and that is exactly what they did. They then scheduled the follow inspection for the next day after that and the system was turned on shortly after. The longest part was my power company saying it was ok to turn on nothing to do with Tesla. My electric company had a 6 week out scheduled inspection after they received all the paperwork. I then bought a LR Model Y on March 27th 2021 the exact one I wanted was available from Jacksonville and it was shipped for delivery for March 31st. Tesla trade in offered me exactly what KBB was on my truck with tax trade in value it came in higher (saving 1.5k in taxes). I found a warranty issue door handle misaligned and scheduled a fix 3 days later in Tampa. Service was kept to the schedule they estimated and everyone was nice and competent. My car is mind blowing I do not miss my truck at all the three or four times I ve driven a gas car since buying a Tesla is boring. I hope Tesla can scale and eventually give everyone the experience I have had I truly have had nothing bad to say about this company. From my experiences these are amazing products and service. | Anthony-T38 | 2021-06-02 01:20:30 | 333 | h09fvg6 | Congrats on your purchase and Thank you for sharing your thoughts. As someone who s sitting on the fence I really appreciate reviews like yours. | BallsofSt33I | 2021-06-02 01:24:54 | 75 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
8ms2gk | A positive service story or no more tilting mirrors for me | Last Wednesday I was taking my son to speech therapy follow-up and backing into a parking space I wasn t watching the proximity to the pillar on the passenger side. I had enabled the tilting mirrors after a year of never using them so I could see my distance to the painted line fairly well but not the pillar. So I hit the pillar right behind the back passenger wheel well. I was due for my annual service so I called the Burbank Tesla Service Center to schedule my service AND see if they could order the fender flare that was cracked and damaged. I brought the car in Friday morning expecting the annual service to be done and the part to be ordered. Well my service contact checked in the back and lo and behold the exact replacement flare was in stock! She told me the part would probably be $50-ish and installation was going to be $8? I told her that was far too expensive but agreed anyway (sarcasm). They brought out a 100D Model S for a loaner. Friday morning my car wasn t going to be ready in time (OUTRAGEOUS?!?!) and I had to drive to Las Vegas for a job overnight. The service contact said Oh that s fine take the loaner if you re comfortable! Drove to Vegas did my job Supercharged in Primm on the way back and just returned the loaner to take my car back. Here s photos of the damage to the flare and my amateur repair job courtesy of dent repair stuff from Amazon and Dr. Colorchip paint for the paint that was actually broken off the vehicle. https: imgur.com a ICPmm4x I m just happy that the Service Center had a part like this in stock quickly installed and very affordably done. Everyone on Facebook Tesla groups prepared me for several weeks to wait for the repair (waiting on parts probably) so the fact they had the part in stock was awesome. The Model S 100D was a lovely borrow for the weekend but I m very happy to have my X back. | vertigo3pc | 2018-05-28 18:06:32 | 21 | dzpy8sq | Dent repair stuff from Amazon? Do you have a link? I m curious. Good job by the way. | kkal82 | 2018-05-28 18:42:21 | 6 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
abswrq | A possible solution to ICEing | There s been a lot of noise lately about ICE ing intentional or otherwise. I truly believe that giving intentional ICE ing any attention will further perpetuate the issue. Expecting Tesla owners to face inconvenience (at best) or harassment (at worst) is not only a poor customer experience it s a danger. Simply put Tesla owners traveling with their family shouldn t have to worry about calling tow trucks or confronting offenders looking for trouble. I see reactions within the community that honestly bring out the worst in us calling for escalations. This will eventually come to a head and is something Tesla should deal with before it s another series of bad headlines. But how? Tesla doesn t typically own the property the superchargers exist on and local laws and ordinances vary wildly. Here s my solution using technology that Tesla already has and is proficient at. Install small cameras in every supercharger. The same or similar cameras Tesla uses for autopilot. These cameras monitor the parking space and use a neural network to run the following logic: 1) Is space empty? 2) If no is charger plugged in? 3) If no is plate handicapped? 4) If no or otherwise unreadable is vehicle a Tesla? 5) If yes identify registration and push notification to owner warning that an idle vehicle not charging must be moved or a tow truck will be called. After a 10 minute grace period proceed to next step and alert owner that a tow truck has been contacted. 6) If no or unreadable initiate autonomous alert to local towing contact or parking enforcement whether that s an auto-generated phone call or text message. Every supercharger would automatically ping a designated local towing contractor who can come collect the vehicle. The property owner will have agreed to these terms and would receive the commission on the tow. This becomes an automatic revenue source for the property owner with 0 extra effort and an additional incentive to host superchargers in the first place. Clear posted signage describing the behavior would be posted so that customers of the land owner s business have full and fair warning that premises are monitored remotely and parking without charging is prohibited. It also takes the onus of calling a tow off of the business owners who themselves or whose employees may be reluctant or to call a tow on a customer. If a customer complains they simply throw their hands up and say that the spots are clearly posted and monitored remotely. This just takes cameras and neural network software something Tesla is already good at. Existing superchargers could be retrofitted at low cost and new chargers would include these cameras. Hardware expense should be minimal. Thoughts? Any flaws I m missing here? Improvements you d make? Edit: not trying to trivialize the use of neural net here but given Tesla s progress in this area I am assuming they can repurpose some portion of existing tech for this purpose if only for identifying an occupied space. | GetawayDriving | 2019-01-02 12:18:51 | 44 | ed2tieq | I was at the Pecos TX charger last week and two kids with a chromed-up pickup truck were parked crossways in the parking lot posing and taking pictures of themselves with their truck. I offered them a ride around the parking lot in my Tesla and pointed out on the nav how the SCs were few and far between on the map and that people traveling rely on these stations to get across the country. When we got back to their pickup they moved it. My experience with people who don t like Teslas is that they ve never been in a Tesla. I think threatening people with calling the cops doesn t dissuade them from acting like douchebags but being an ambassador for the Tesla brand and giving them a good case of Tesla Fever with a ride is more effective. | YesRocketScience | 2019-01-02 14:08:12 | 146 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
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