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Macron won. Fucking get over it. God, you're so sensitive.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
It's stupid. If they vote for Fillon, Macron will be first easily and Le Pen could miss the 2nd round...So there is no good gamble here.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Social Liberals, see Liberal Democrats, D66, and the Danish Social Liberal Party (and to some degree Macron's REM)	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Not being French or having followed French politics can someone explain why there is a President and a PM? I was surprised when I read the bullet point saying that Macron is expected to name a PM Monday. What powers do each of them have?	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I doubt any of those countries would choose to leave, especially Germany, Le Pen wants to leave but the prevailing viewpoint is that she won't win. Gentilioni is a centrist	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
For Macron's sake guys, let's not downvote people for asking questions. That's the sort of illiberal action that our adversaries stoop to. Do like /u/incendiatyblizzard and use the argumentative power of EVIDENCE-BASED POLICY^^^TM for good.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Proportionality	Confident
> Do you think nativist parties led by Le Pen, Wilders etc are not racist? As you admit, they will never label themselves as racist but there is a reason why many people think the label is apt -- their policies are often racist Of course they are racist, but in a different way. I explained it before.	geopolitics	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
>Extremism is extremism, left or right doesn't matter. This is so silly. Is the part of Le Pen's program that worries you really just her opposition to the EU? Not her blatant racist rhetoric?	europe	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
Mélenchon fans are not anti EU and Mélenchon is not either. He just wants EU to allow him to lead his non austerity programme, if negociations prove fruitful he would be glad to stay. Also Mélenchon and Le Pen absolutly abhor each other, not just as candidates but as persons. They stand for absolutly opposite things.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Which is rather crazy considering that Fillon was the prime minister... He was the one who implemented all of Sarkozy's policies.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Oh no, EMAILS. How could Macron send EMAILS???? I feel betrayed.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Qatar really isn't that huge in international politics or in France's domestic policies. France isn't exactly going to do much for them except the status quo, but it's better for them than a French warming toward Iran and Syria. Russia, however, wants to dismantle the economic power of the EU so it can expand economically and occasionally militarily through European countries, which Le Pen is definitely in support of. The same Russia which assassinates political opponents and treats other countries as nova Russia. Your long-winded condescension is pretty baseless and immature.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Care,Loyalty	Confident
Ok fair enough. I'll accept he's a sexist. But I haven't heard any racist statements from le pen. And by racist I mean she thinks brown people are inherently inferior to whites.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Somewhat Confident
Le Penn has exactly 0 policies that align with Neoliberal priorities.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I think the big news story here is Le pen has a boyfriend! (O_O) what man in his right mind would date a she demon like her?	europe	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
The idea of Le Pen to fight terrorists was to leave schegen area and europol and employ more policemen. How would that prevent terrorism?	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
They annoy you because you think that they are your ally against the far right (ie the enemy of my enemy is my friend) but the reality is that they are a cult that preaches from a book that prophesizes that sometime in the future "workers" will rise up and kill those with capital. Macron is one of those people in their minds.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Care	Somewhat Confident
Hmmm, most of the towns I'm thinking of are very industrial and very working class. Probably there is a strong presence of organized labour and politicized workers who are voting for Mélenchon. There'd also be a history of strong communist local government. There wouldn't be so many privileged kids. Paris is an interesting case - the wealthiest neighbourhoods have voted Fillon, the more middle class ones Macron, and the more working class ones (19th, 20th) have voted Mélenchon.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
If they couldn't release a defense of the leak, by rule, why did they admit some are real and some fake? How did they dig through GB's of files in a 1-2 days and make a declarative statement like that? They also claim to know who hacked Macron. Where is the evidence of that claim?	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Candidates who are pro-EU received more votes than Le Pen and Melenchon combined.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I saw so many anti Macron comments the past few days and 9/10 they were also fervent T_D posters. I'd be willing to bet 8/10 live in the US. So it seems like they're more upset their attempt to influence a foreign election didn't work.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Her biggest fault by far has been putting Greece on the rack - though I understand that this is largely the key to her popularity in Germany and gave her the room to allow in almost a million Syrians. German leadership in the EU crisis has made Southern Europe very insecure and may, depending on what happens to Greece and Italy, break up the EU in the long run. We'll see. That being said, she's the best on offer until Macron steals our hearts.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Authority	Somewhat Confident
Stop jinxing guys! I am worried as hell about Le Pen. Fillon can still come back and fuck up everything. Imagine a contest between a hard-right populist with a neo-Nazi dad and anti-EU, protectionist policies, and a socially conservative, religious, economically over-liberal hard-righter. Would not be like Chirac vs Papa Jean since Chirac was pretty centrist.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
I'm not trying to argue whether or not Le Pen is a threat to France or Europe, just that OP's post isn't anti-Le Pen just for saying "Europe needs you"	europe	French politics	annotator02	Loyalty	Somewhat Confident
May's abandoned Thatcher and Cameron's good ideas. What a shambles. She's almost like Le Pen on immigration and Farage on Europe.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
"estimated election results" is an estimation of the final count based on a selected set of polling stations. Official results are all the votes that have been counted. So if a département that votes for Fillon announces all its results at once, Fillon wil temporarily lead the official count.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I don't see how Le Penn can win personally but my trust in polling in a culture of shame is 0. You cant get good results if everyone obfuscates there own opinion due to fears of moralist lynching.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
Same here. There will be a lot of quiet Le Pen supporters who will only declare their support in the private ballot box.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Raises the question: has Fillon been a stalking horse for Juppé all along? I guess not, given the selection method, but it would be a political masterstroke if someone had planned this.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
They expected Le Pen to win the first round and use that as a beating stick. They know its now virtually impossible to win the second and so have lost everything	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
By not voting they are allowing Le Pen to win. The voters just have to choose what is more important: Your ideological purity or not getting Le Pen to win.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
No CDU politician can match her popularity. There is no one to replace her, there was not even a challenger. But still Germany is somehow looking for some sort of change although maybe not in the sense that people here are looking for. Martin Schulz embodies some pro-Europe message that resonates with the people's high favorability of the EU. It's comparable to the rising chances of Macron in France. Most of the Central Europeans are looking for an alternative to the anti-European messages of AfD, Front National, FPÖ, etc. Even Wilders is down again by some points.	Conservative	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
That's hilarious, communists voting for an establishment, Ex-Banker, neoliberal Edit: I'm aware they're doing it to keep Le Pen out, it's still hilarious that they wouldn't simply abstain	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Trumps beats Clinton,"Democracy works" "Get over it" "SHE LOST!" Macron beats Le Pen,"Waaaahhhh" "We're not saving you France" "France is screwed." Kind of shows you how two-faced the Alt-Right is.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
When Trump/Le Pen supporters say "globalists", what they actually mean is "Jews"	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
Dont forget there are people who describe Le Penas anti-establishment.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
But it would be nonsensical to call Macron that though. Unlike Le Pen, his party wasn't founded by nazi collaborators and Waffen SS veterans.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
My read is different. After checking out the entire article, it seems to me that Macron is extending an open hand and letting the UK know that the EU still really wants the UK to remain a member. But I don't know all of the history involved. Was hoping someone from the UK could give us their perspective.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Those are the current Vegas odds for a Le Pen win, which I personally feel are the most accurate. If anything, I think her support is probably underestimated due to the "shy Tory factor."	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
State corruption doesn't fall under the competences of a foreign court. Only in specific circumstances. They would need to actually violate the law in a given country, and you would still rely on the Hungarian government actually extraditing him/her. Regardless this is not something for others to be involved in and would set a really bad precedent, we don't prosecute Fillon or Sarkozy either even though they're criminals.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
Macron is closing the gap Le Pen: 23,26% Macron: 23,02% http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/FE.html	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
*AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW /u/pinguy!!!!!! DONT YOU DARE BE SOUR! EAT A DICK FOR PRESIDENT MACRON AND FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL THE POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!*	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
None of those occasions compare. Not only is Le Pen losing, she's losing by a YUGE margin. Even allowing some generous room for error and changes in here, she's losing this.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Valls isn't liked by many since a few years. From some sources,apparently Macron really didn't like him either,because Macron went to convince people from the right to vote for a law. For about 500 hours he tried until he finally succeed just to have Valls pass the law anyway by the 49.3(forcing from the majority )because he didn't want this law to be approved because of some voice from the right. A fucking dick move if that's real if you ask me.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I remember Hollande had a terrible approval rating, but I assumed it was a typical French reaction to elected leaders. Was Hollande really that bad as a president?	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
Who said without France? France and Germany both support this idea, Germany more than France though. But the two countries already have joint military bases. With Trump and Macron and power, the UK (biggest opponent of more integration) out of Europe, the whole thing might happen faster than previously expected.	geopolitics	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
>Macron -bourgeois filth >Harmon - bourgeois filth >Melenchon - communist ~~truth~~ filth >Fillon- bourgeois filth >Le Pen - fascist filth ~~Fixed that for you~~ Corrigé pour toi	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
I don't think you guys know how to read. Macron is talking about the THREAT of terrorism, not the ATTACKS themselves. Of course there is a threat, but this threat was there with Hollande, it would have been there with Le Pen too. What Macron wants (and what Le Pen wanted to do) was to protect the french from this THREAT and keep the ATTACKS from happening.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Care	Confident
Thank you all! I feel like we're all finally exhaling after holding our breath for a very long time! I'm looking forward to what Macron and his German counterpart can get done in the next couple of years!	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I mean first round Macron got 24% and Le Pen 21%. The candidate the other 55% voted for was eliminated. They had less incentive to go vote for someone that initially was their second, third or more choice.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Actually he's "pro EU"in the sense that he very much enjoy and wants the basis of what EU has been build being,unity,social security,democracy and such. He's more an "anti current EU" than simply an "Anti EU" like Le Pen. But his attitude is basically "if you don't do it like i asked,i want to leave." Which i don't like as an attitude as they are 27 countries and you can't force them all to adapt to your demands just because you talk big. I'm pretty sure he would have been a lot more popular if he was pro-EU.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
> Le Pen would obviously be the fist female leader of France. I know she's right wing and all, but fisting is taking politics a bit too far, no?	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Jean-Marie Le Pen was far-right, but an economic liberal. MLP changed that and incorporated part of the left-wing anti-globalist protectionist narrative into the FN. It's very much the Trump formula.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Petition to change all users flair to Macron until the election is over	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
This is true. Golden Dawn, UKIP, Le Pen are all receiving financial support from the Kremlin. I totally agree that Putin is up to no good. I have been given evidence for all of those affiliations, however. The CIA is not so forthcoming, which makes me question their higher motives. Thank you for your input.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I've seen this tactic before used against whoever the establishment are against, and who they're trying to promote. They want Macron. "fallacy of appealing to the stone". /r/justneckbeardthings is that way ----->	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I know you think France's pre-election situation was different(and it was), but I believe a kind of unapologetic pro-globalization(who also proposes policy that will counteract the negative externalities of globalization, very specifically tailored for those Reagan Democrats in the Rust Belt) Democrat similar to Macron could win over moderate Conservatives with centrist economics. They(the centrist Democrat) can't let themselves be pulled to the left like Hillary did with Bernie during the primary, which made her not only look like a insincere flip-flopper, but she could also be portrayed as secretly far more left than she actually was.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
IS' best weapon is electing someone like Le Pen who continues to alienate and disenfranchise Muslims and makes IS the only one who "listens to them".	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
I'm talking about white people here. I'm not going to believe that only 5% of Paris is white (and thus Le Pen's bad result there). No, white people in Paris don't vote for her because they're comparatively well-educated and young (which coincides with a different set of values like tolerance and openness).	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
why not just make fun of him for looking stupid in a picture? We're not saying he's a bad president because Macron cucked him in a handshake	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
Which was never my point. I was questioning the accusation that Orban is allied with Le Pen and Putin. Sympathy is one thing, alliance implies something far stronger, while deciding which country is or is not democratic is something else entirely.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Care,Loyalty	Confident
Le Pen was absolutely terrible. That's pretty much all we can take out of this debate.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Well you should be,Le Pen is not liked by a majority And to win,you need a majority that's how things work.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
As far as I can tell most of these supporters of old socialists don't actually support socialism. These old socialists don't actually run as socialists, they run as social democrats. I don't know about Melenchon, but neither Corbyn nor Bernie actually ran on anything resembling an actual socialist platform.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Le Pen does poorly among retirees last time I checked	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Indeed, normally we give a full market study with the whole list of newspapers, magazines,... in France. We analyse every group based on > 6000 criteria to really understand them. However, in this case we only wanted to show some interesting insight. If we look at the full study, we can see that the percentages in the newspaper are overall lower for Le Pen sympathisers, but score much higher on the radio section compared to Macron sympathisers.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I would hope he wouldn't be against workers that follow the wage laws just because they are Polish. I agree with Macron on this, having a mass of foreign workers that don't follow wage laws only hurts everyone, but if they get hired because they're the best person for the job and not because of a massively lower minimum wage than more power to them.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
Out of 164 polls, only 1 had Le Pen at below 22%. She is at 21.4%. That same poll had her losing the second round by 32%.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
The polls (which were on point) predicted an easy win for Mélenchon against Marine. Her only chance was to face Fillon.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Where did this come from? I think Macron is very strong, young and promising candidate. Are you trying to do the same Clinton-bad, Trump-bad dichotomy shit?	europe	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
Hillary would fit as much on the political spectrum as Macron. She supported social justice and welfare while advocating for free market policies. This is pretty much the liberal/democratic north American agenda, which is kind of out of place in France since the conservative party (Républicains) is pro free market but less than progressive on social issues and the Socialists tend to support social justice while taking strong regulatory stances. That is until Macron arrived and smashed the Socialists in pieces. And if he wins the parliament the conservatives will have to seriously questioned themselves	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I wonder how much the political affection (left wing or right wing) of the politicians influenced their relations or maybe just Hollande is truly shit.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
I wish the second round was between Macron and Fillon	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
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You can read this gibberish any way you like... It's nothing. It doesn't condemn the US, it doesn't support the attack. It just condemns Assad for his proven massacre from 2013. As for the French people. Even if Hollande were to support the stikes, I can tell you most don't like it. But I guess we shall see.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Care	Not Confident
You are correct. Le Pen is still part of a nazi party. So, a fascist and a nazi.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
+1 Hamon is a fine man, at least he got some nice ideas into the public discourse - UBI, taxing robots, etc. As you can see from the username I have - I'm Macron all the way, but in 10-20 years the Hamons ideas must become mainstream in order to preserve our society.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Proportionality,Equality	Confident
She was trying to imitate one speech of Macron where he said that FN voter's are being treated like idiots, or something like that, but changing the quote to him saying that they are idiots, iirc	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I supported him for fun, not seriously. I'm not really super invested in the French election. I know literally no one in France and I doubt my one reddit comment in favor of Melenchon was gonna convince some French person to vote Melenchon.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
That's good news. Hopefully Le Pen wins to shoot a second arrow into the heart of the EU.	Conservative	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Do you think Putin is backing Le Pen because that's what's best for France?	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
The AI claims that Le Pen will still lose 45 to 55 in the second round.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Trump did say good things about her, but stopped short from expressing direct support. According to Trump, Le Pen "strongest on borders, and she’s the strongest on what’s been going on in France."	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Everything Trump, anti EU, Geert Wilders, Marine Le Pen, Freedom of speech, Anti Islam, Anti Globalism gets absolutely downvoted at r/europe	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
"How will Macron succeed as a president without parliament?" "Lol watch this"	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
What worries me is that Macron has to deliver. If he disappoints just like Hollande did, Le Pen will have carte blanche to push a Frexit through and lead Europe down a very bad path. So, on one side I am happy for Macron, on the other I am concerned - he better deliver.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
I want to be the meat in a Macron-Ossoff sandwich.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
>I really can't understand what went through the minds of those that voted for Macron Maybe because you're not french and don't understand french politics? Can't be that. Must be that all french just want to destroy their country lmao. These people have no self-awareness. I'm not french and I will admit I'm mostly ignorant about their politics, so I won't talk about it with any kind of authority. Them on the other hand... edit: I know it's not your quote, so my "you're not french" wasn't referring to you. Just clarifying.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Loyalty	Confident
I like Macron and hope he delivers on his promises, but the headlines does read a bit like something from /r/iamverysmart	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
[Outliers, look at the voting average, it was never more than ~9%.](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/) See polls only forecast & popular vote for reference. When Le Pen starts getting to within 10% on average, then we can talk.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
I hate Harper as a politician. I didn't doubt for a second he was competent and he has Canada's best interest at hearth. To me he was a political opponent, not a threat to the nation. I feel it's very different with people like le Pen and Trump.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Thin Morality	Confident
I have not said anything about this genocide. In this thread many Europeans after Turkish referendum labeling Turks as nationalists for supporting Erdogan and celebrating the result with Turkish flags in Europe. I reminded them that they are doing the same voting home far-right candidates like Le Pen who is more than a nationalist.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Le Pen is actually a fascist, the leader of a far right party founded by a Holocaust denier that has had ties to Neo Nazis and Vichy supporters, and is much worse than Trump, who isn't a fascist or nearly as dangerous as her. The French people made a very good decision. Edit: That's how she's a fascist.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Equality	Confident
> I've always wondered why people see her as a point of stability, when in fact, she is the opposite. Well, it's all relative. In general, I think Merkel is a populist demagogue that is contributing to the dissolution of the EU. But when compared to Le Pen, Wilders, Trump et al. she is a source of stability, sanity and a defender of global rules-based cooperation and liberal democracy.	geopolitics	French politics	annotator02	Equality,Authority	Confident
Farage: Uncontrolled immigration, wage squeeze => obviously we must leave EU, only possible solution! That way we'll be able to kick them out! Macron: Companies are hiring cheaper workers, it's unfair => let's talk about the underlying laws and fix them. Farage is an idiot asshole.	europe	French politics	annotator02	Proportionality	Confident
> Are they openly for authoritarianism? Yes, yes they are. That is precisely what's going on with Trump, Farage and his ilk, and Le Pen. They absolutely adore a strong man who also throws a couple of compliments their way... And they have aspirations to authoritarian rule.	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
>And Macron would sweep if only ~~university~~ high school graduates were allowed to vote.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Good! Merkel/Macron drawing a strong example out of this will help with the stability of the EU as a legitimate supranational institution.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
There were no DNC leaks or Macron leaks. They were hacks, they were not leaked by Patriots it was politically motivated hacking to influence the election	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident
Awesome. Thanks! Very interesting. Do you have an opinion on what a Macron win would mean for France and the world?	worldnews	French politics	annotator02	Non-Moral	Confident

Macron won. Fucking get over it. God, you're so sensitive.

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It's stupid. If they vote for Fillon, Macron will be first easily and Le Pen could miss the 2nd round...So there is no good gamble here.

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Social Liberals, see Liberal Democrats, D66, and the Danish Social Liberal Party (and to some degree Macron's REM)

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Not being French or having followed French politics can someone explain why there is a President and a PM? I was surprised when I read the bullet point saying that Macron is expected to name a PM Monday. What powers do each of them have?

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I doubt any of those countries would choose to leave, especially Germany, Le Pen wants to leave but the prevailing viewpoint is that she won't win. Gentilioni is a centrist

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For Macron's sake guys, let's not downvote people for asking questions. That's the sort of illiberal action that our adversaries stoop to. Do like /u/incendiatyblizzard and use the argumentative power of EVIDENCE-BASED POLICY^^^TM for good.

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> Do you think nativist parties led by Le Pen, Wilders etc are not racist? As you admit, they will never label themselves as racist but there is a reason why many people think the label is apt -- their policies are often racist Of course they are racist, but in a different way. I explained it before.

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>Extremism is extremism, left or right doesn't matter. This is so silly. Is the part of Le Pen's program that worries you really just her opposition to the EU? Not her blatant racist rhetoric?

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Mélenchon fans are not anti EU and Mélenchon is not either. He just wants EU to allow him to lead his non austerity programme, if negociations prove fruitful he would be glad to stay. Also Mélenchon and Le Pen absolutly abhor each other, not just as candidates but as persons. They stand for absolutly opposite things.

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Which is rather crazy considering that Fillon was the prime minister... He was the one who implemented all of Sarkozy's policies.

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Oh no, EMAILS. How could Macron send EMAILS???? I feel betrayed.

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Qatar really isn't that huge in international politics or in France's domestic policies. France isn't exactly going to do much for them except the status quo, but it's better for them than a French warming toward Iran and Syria. Russia, however, wants to dismantle the economic power of the EU so it can expand economically and occasionally militarily through European countries, which Le Pen is definitely in support of. The same Russia which assassinates political opponents and treats other countries as nova Russia. Your long-winded condescension is pretty baseless and immature.

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Ok fair enough. I'll accept he's a sexist. But I haven't heard any racist statements from le pen. And by racist I mean she thinks brown people are inherently inferior to whites.

europe

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Le Penn has exactly 0 policies that align with Neoliberal priorities.

neoliberal

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I think the big news story here is Le pen has a boyfriend! (O_O) what man in his right mind would date a she demon like her?

europe

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The idea of Le Pen to fight terrorists was to leave schegen area and europol and employ more policemen. How would that prevent terrorism?

worldnews

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They annoy you because you think that they are your ally against the far right (ie the enemy of my enemy is my friend) but the reality is that they are a cult that preaches from a book that prophesizes that sometime in the future "workers" will rise up and kill those with capital. Macron is one of those people in their minds.

neoliberal

French politics

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Hmmm, most of the towns I'm thinking of are very industrial and very working class. Probably there is a strong presence of organized labour and politicized workers who are voting for Mélenchon. There'd also be a history of strong communist local government. There wouldn't be so many privileged kids. Paris is an interesting case - the wealthiest neighbourhoods have voted Fillon, the more middle class ones Macron, and the more working class ones (19th, 20th) have voted Mélenchon.

europe

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If they couldn't release a defense of the leak, by rule, why did they admit some are real and some fake? How did they dig through GB's of files in a 1-2 days and make a declarative statement like that? They also claim to know who hacked Macron. Where is the evidence of that claim?

worldnews

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Candidates who are pro-EU received more votes than Le Pen and Melenchon combined.

europe

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I saw so many anti Macron comments the past few days and 9/10 they were also fervent T_D posters. I'd be willing to bet 8/10 live in the US. So it seems like they're more upset their attempt to influence a foreign election didn't work.

worldnews

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Her biggest fault by far has been putting Greece on the rack - though I understand that this is largely the key to her popularity in Germany and gave her the room to allow in almost a million Syrians. German leadership in the EU crisis has made Southern Europe very insecure and may, depending on what happens to Greece and Italy, break up the EU in the long run. We'll see. That being said, she's the best on offer until Macron steals our hearts.

neoliberal

French politics

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Stop jinxing guys! I am worried as hell about Le Pen. Fillon can still come back and fuck up everything. Imagine a contest between a hard-right populist with a neo-Nazi dad and anti-EU, protectionist policies, and a socially conservative, religious, economically over-liberal hard-righter. Would not be like Chirac vs Papa Jean since Chirac was pretty centrist.

europe

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I'm not trying to argue whether or not Le Pen is a threat to France or Europe, just that OP's post isn't anti-Le Pen just for saying "Europe needs you"

europe

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May's abandoned Thatcher and Cameron's good ideas. What a shambles. She's almost like Le Pen on immigration and Farage on Europe.

neoliberal

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"estimated election results" is an estimation of the final count based on a selected set of polling stations. Official results are all the votes that have been counted. So if a département that votes for Fillon announces all its results at once, Fillon wil temporarily lead the official count.

worldnews

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I don't see how Le Penn can win personally but my trust in polling in a culture of shame is 0. You cant get good results if everyone obfuscates there own opinion due to fears of moralist lynching.

worldnews

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Same here. There will be a lot of quiet Le Pen supporters who will only declare their support in the private ballot box.

europe

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Raises the question: has Fillon been a stalking horse for Juppé all along? I guess not, given the selection method, but it would be a political masterstroke if someone had planned this.

europe

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They expected Le Pen to win the first round and use that as a beating stick. They know its now virtually impossible to win the second and so have lost everything

europe

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By not voting they are allowing Le Pen to win. The voters just have to choose what is more important: Your ideological purity or not getting Le Pen to win.

europe

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No CDU politician can match her popularity. There is no one to replace her, there was not even a challenger. But still Germany is somehow looking for some sort of change although maybe not in the sense that people here are looking for. Martin Schulz embodies some pro-Europe message that resonates with the people's high favorability of the EU. It's comparable to the rising chances of Macron in France. Most of the Central Europeans are looking for an alternative to the anti-European messages of AfD, Front National, FPÖ, etc. Even Wilders is down again by some points.

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That's hilarious, communists voting for an establishment, Ex-Banker, neoliberal Edit: I'm aware they're doing it to keep Le Pen out, it's still hilarious that they wouldn't simply abstain

europe

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Trumps beats Clinton,"Democracy works" "Get over it" "SHE LOST!" Macron beats Le Pen,"Waaaahhhh" "We're not saving you France" "France is screwed." Kind of shows you how two-faced the Alt-Right is.

worldnews

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When Trump/Le Pen supporters say "globalists", what they actually mean is "Jews"

worldnews

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Dont forget there are people who describe Le Penas anti-establishment.

europe

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But it would be nonsensical to call Macron that though. Unlike Le Pen, his party wasn't founded by nazi collaborators and Waffen SS veterans.

europe

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My read is different. After checking out the entire article, it seems to me that Macron is extending an open hand and letting the UK know that the EU still really wants the UK to remain a member. But I don't know all of the history involved. Was hoping someone from the UK could give us their perspective.

worldnews

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Those are the current Vegas odds for a Le Pen win, which I personally feel are the most accurate. If anything, I think her support is probably underestimated due to the "shy Tory factor."

worldnews

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State corruption doesn't fall under the competences of a foreign court. Only in specific circumstances. They would need to actually violate the law in a given country, and you would still rely on the Hungarian government actually extraditing him/her. Regardless this is not something for others to be involved in and would set a really bad precedent, we don't prosecute Fillon or Sarkozy either even though they're criminals.

europe

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Macron is closing the gap Le Pen: 23,26% Macron: 23,02% http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/FE.html

europe

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***AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW /u/pinguy!!!!!! DONT YOU DARE BE SOUR! EAT A DICK FOR PRESIDENT MACRON AND FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL THE POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!***

europe

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None of those occasions compare. Not only is Le Pen losing, she's losing by a YUGE margin. Even allowing some generous room for error and changes in here, she's losing this.

worldnews

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Valls isn't liked by many since a few years. From some sources,apparently Macron really didn't like him either,because Macron went to convince people from the right to vote for a law. For about 500 hours he tried until he finally succeed just to have Valls pass the law anyway by the 49.3(forcing from the majority )because he didn't want this law to be approved because of some voice from the right. A fucking dick move if that's real if you ask me.

europe

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I remember Hollande had a terrible approval rating, but I assumed it was a typical French reaction to elected leaders. Was Hollande really that bad as a president?

neoliberal

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Who said without France? France and Germany both support this idea, Germany more than France though. But the two countries already have joint military bases. With Trump and Macron and power, the UK (biggest opponent of more integration) out of Europe, the whole thing might happen faster than previously expected.

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>Macron -bourgeois filth >Harmon - bourgeois filth >Melenchon - communist ~~truth~~ filth >Fillon- bourgeois filth >Le Pen - fascist filth ~~Fixed that for you~~ Corrigé pour toi

worldnews

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I don't think you guys know how to read. Macron is talking about the THREAT of terrorism, not the ATTACKS themselves. Of course there is a threat, but this threat was there with Hollande, it would have been there with Le Pen too. What Macron wants (and what Le Pen wanted to do) was to protect the french from this THREAT and keep the ATTACKS from happening.

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Thank you all! I feel like we're all finally exhaling after holding our breath for a very long time! I'm looking forward to what Macron and his German counterpart can get done in the next couple of years!

europe

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I mean first round Macron got 24% and Le Pen 21%. The candidate the other 55% voted for was eliminated. They had less incentive to go vote for someone that initially was their second, third or more choice.

worldnews

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Actually he's "pro EU"in the sense that he very much enjoy and wants the basis of what EU has been build being,unity,social security,democracy and such. He's more an "anti current EU" than simply an "Anti EU" like Le Pen. But his attitude is basically "if you don't do it like i asked,i want to leave." Which i don't like as an attitude as they are 27 countries and you can't force them all to adapt to your demands just because you talk big. I'm pretty sure he would have been a lot more popular if he was pro-EU.

europe

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> Le Pen would obviously be the **fist** female leader of France. I know she's right wing and all, but fisting is taking politics a bit too far, no?

worldnews

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Jean-Marie Le Pen was far-right, but an economic liberal. MLP changed that and incorporated part of the left-wing anti-globalist protectionist narrative into the FN. It's very much the Trump formula.

europe

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Petition to change all users flair to Macron until the election is over

neoliberal

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This is true. Golden Dawn, UKIP, Le Pen are all receiving financial support from the Kremlin. I totally agree that Putin is up to no good. I have been given evidence for all of those affiliations, however. The CIA is not so forthcoming, which makes me question their higher motives. Thank you for your input.

worldnews

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I've seen this tactic before used against whoever the establishment are against, and who they're trying to promote. They want Macron. "fallacy of appealing to the stone". /r/justneckbeardthings is that way ----->

worldnews

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I know you think France's pre-election situation was different(and it was), but I believe a kind of unapologetic pro-globalization(who also proposes policy that will counteract the negative externalities of globalization, very specifically tailored for those Reagan Democrats in the Rust Belt) Democrat similar to Macron could win over moderate Conservatives with centrist economics. They(the centrist Democrat) can't let themselves be pulled to the left like Hillary did with Bernie during the primary, which made her not only look like a insincere flip-flopper, but she could also be portrayed as secretly far more left than she actually was.

neoliberal

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IS' best weapon is electing someone like Le Pen who continues to alienate and disenfranchise Muslims and makes IS the only one who "listens to them".

worldnews

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I'm talking about white people here. I'm not going to believe that only 5% of Paris is white (and thus Le Pen's bad result there). No, white people in Paris don't vote for her because they're comparatively well-educated and young (which coincides with a different set of values like tolerance and openness).

europe

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why not just make fun of him for looking stupid in a picture? We're not saying he's a bad president because Macron cucked him in a handshake

neoliberal

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Which was never my point. I was questioning the accusation that Orban is allied with Le Pen and Putin. Sympathy is one thing, *alliance* implies something far stronger, while deciding which country is or is not democratic is something else entirely.

europe

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Le Pen was absolutely terrible. That's pretty much all we can take out of this debate.

europe

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Well you should be,Le Pen is not liked by a majority And to win,you need a majority that's how things work.

europe

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As far as I can tell most of these supporters of old socialists don't actually support socialism. These old socialists don't actually run as socialists, they run as social democrats. I don't know about Melenchon, but neither Corbyn nor Bernie actually ran on anything resembling an actual socialist platform.

neoliberal

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Le Pen does poorly among retirees last time I checked

europe

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Indeed, normally we give a full market study with the whole list of newspapers, magazines,... in France. We analyse every group based on > 6000 criteria to really understand them. However, in this case we only wanted to show some interesting insight. If we look at the full study, we can see that the percentages in the newspaper are overall lower for Le Pen sympathisers, but score much higher on the radio section compared to Macron sympathisers.

europe

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I would hope he wouldn't be against workers that follow the wage laws just because they are Polish. I agree with Macron on this, having a mass of foreign workers that don't follow wage laws only hurts everyone, but if they get hired because they're the best person for the job and not because of a massively lower minimum wage than more power to them.

europe

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Out of 164 polls, only 1 had Le Pen at below 22%. She is at 21.4%. That same poll had her losing the second round by 32%.

worldnews

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The polls (which were on point) predicted an easy win for Mélenchon against Marine. Her only chance was to face Fillon.

europe

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Where did this come from? I think Macron is very strong, young and promising candidate. Are you trying to do the same Clinton-bad, Trump-bad dichotomy shit?

europe

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Thin Morality

Confident

Hillary would fit as much on the political spectrum as Macron. She supported social justice and welfare while advocating for free market policies. This is pretty much the liberal/democratic north American agenda, which is kind of out of place in France since the conservative party (Républicains) is pro free market but less than progressive on social issues and the Socialists tend to support social justice while taking strong regulatory stances. That is until Macron arrived and smashed the Socialists in pieces. And if he wins the parliament the conservatives will have to seriously questioned themselves

worldnews

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I wonder how much the political affection (left wing or right wing) of the politicians influenced their relations or maybe just Hollande is truly shit.

europe

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annotator02

Thin Morality

Confident

I wish the second round was between Macron and Fillon

europe

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geopolitics

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You can read this gibberish any way you like... It's nothing. It doesn't condemn the US, it doesn't support the attack. It just condemns Assad for his proven massacre from 2013. As for the French people. Even if Hollande were to support the stikes, I can tell you most don't like it. But I guess we shall see.

europe

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Care

Not Confident

You are correct. Le Pen is still part of a nazi party. So, a fascist and a nazi.

europe

French politics

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+1 Hamon is a fine man, at least he got some nice ideas into the public discourse - UBI, taxing robots, etc. As you can see from the username I have - I'm Macron all the way, but in 10-20 years the Hamons ideas must become mainstream in order to preserve our society.

europe

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She was trying to imitate one speech of Macron where he said that FN voter's are being treated like idiots, or something like that, but changing the quote to him saying that they are idiots, iirc

europe

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I supported him for fun, not seriously. I'm not really super invested in the French election. I know literally no one in France and I doubt my one reddit comment in favor of Melenchon was gonna convince some French person to vote Melenchon.

neoliberal

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That's good news. Hopefully Le Pen wins to shoot a second arrow into the heart of the EU.

Conservative

French politics

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Confident

Do you think Putin is backing Le Pen because that's what's best for France?

worldnews

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Confident

The AI claims that Le Pen will still lose 45 to 55 in the second round.

europe

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Confident

Trump did say good things about her, but stopped short from expressing direct support. According to Trump, Le Pen "strongest on borders, and she’s the strongest on what’s been going on in France."

worldnews

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Confident

Everything Trump, anti EU, Geert Wilders, Marine Le Pen, Freedom of speech, Anti Islam, Anti Globalism gets absolutely downvoted at r/europe

europe

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Confident

"How will Macron succeed as a president without parliament?" "Lol watch this"

neoliberal

French politics

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Confident

What worries me is that Macron has to deliver. If he disappoints just like Hollande did, Le Pen will have carte blanche to push a Frexit through and lead Europe down a very bad path. So, on one side I am happy for Macron, on the other I am concerned - he better deliver.

europe

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I want to be the meat in a Macron-Ossoff sandwich.

neoliberal

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Confident

>I really can't understand what went through the minds of those that voted for Macron Maybe because you're not french and don't understand french politics? Can't be that. Must be that all french just want to destroy their country lmao. These people have no self-awareness. I'm not french and I will admit I'm mostly ignorant about their politics, so I won't talk about it with any kind of authority. Them on the other hand... edit: I know it's not your quote, so my "you're not french" wasn't referring to you. Just clarifying.

worldnews

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I like Macron and hope he delivers on his promises, but the headlines does read a bit like something from /r/iamverysmart

europe

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[Outliers, look at the voting average, it was never more than ~9%.](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/) See polls only forecast & popular vote for reference. When Le Pen starts getting to within 10% on average, then we can talk.

europe

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I hate Harper as a politician. I didn't doubt for a second he was competent and he has Canada's best interest at hearth. To me he was a political opponent, not a threat to the nation. I feel it's very different with people like le Pen and Trump.

worldnews

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I have not said anything about this genocide. In this thread many Europeans after Turkish referendum labeling Turks as nationalists for supporting Erdogan and celebrating the result with Turkish flags in Europe. I reminded them that they are doing the same voting home far-right candidates like Le Pen who is more than a nationalist.

europe

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Le Pen is actually a fascist, the leader of a far right party founded by a Holocaust denier that has had ties to Neo Nazis and Vichy supporters, and is much worse than Trump, who isn't a fascist or nearly as dangerous as her. The French people made a very good decision. Edit: That's how she's a fascist.

worldnews

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> I've always wondered why people see her as a point of stability, when in fact, she is the opposite. Well, it's all relative. In general, I think Merkel is a populist demagogue that is contributing to the dissolution of the EU. But when compared to Le Pen, Wilders, Trump et al. she is a source of stability, sanity and a defender of global rules-based cooperation and liberal democracy.

geopolitics

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Farage: Uncontrolled immigration, wage squeeze => obviously we must leave EU, only possible solution! That way we'll be able to kick them out! Macron: Companies are hiring cheaper workers, it's unfair => let's talk about the underlying laws and fix them. Farage is an idiot asshole.

europe

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> Are they openly for authoritarianism? Yes, yes they are. That is precisely what's going on with Trump, Farage and his ilk, and Le Pen. They absolutely *adore* a strong man who also throws a couple of compliments their way... And they have aspirations to authoritarian rule.

worldnews

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>And Macron would sweep if only ~~university~~ high school graduates were allowed to vote.

neoliberal

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Good! Merkel/Macron drawing a strong example out of this will help with the stability of the EU as a legitimate supranational institution.

neoliberal

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Non-Moral

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There were no DNC leaks or Macron leaks. They were hacks, they were not leaked by Patriots it was politically motivated hacking to influence the election

worldnews

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Confident

Awesome. Thanks! Very interesting. Do you have an opinion on what a Macron win would mean for France and the world?

worldnews

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Non-Moral

Confident