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Well the same hacker from last time did attempt to hack Macron like two weeks ago. The goal is the same as last time. And Le Pen is outspokenly pro-Putin! Makes you wonder.
**Edit:** The motive would also be pretty clear in this case. A Le Pen win would mean dissolution of the EU. The Russian economy would benefit enormously from this, as it is only smaller than a unified Europe.
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Hamon and Fillon were both extreme candidates for their respective traditional non-extreme political parties.
Hamon wanted to implement an universal income and tax robots to fight job loss due to automation, for example, while Fillon promised a hard austerity to reduce the national debt and tough reforms to increase productivity (remove the 35h legal limit for the basic work week for example).
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> I don't think Mélenchon would be worse then the pathological liar and criminal Fillon.
Have you looked at Melenchon European platform ? He wants to renegotiate the EU treaties, and if he doesn't get his way he will leave the EU.
What he wants is insane, for example every country should increase its social spendings and fiscal policy to converge with the country with the highest spendings.
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Some people don't understand that a French citizen may want to vote for Macron without being manipulated, without being ignorant, without being fooled.
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So dishonest, shame on you.
I don't support Hamon (Mélenchon instead), but Hamon said : coming back from Sénégal where he lived a few years, he thought that the change was hard, and that the city of Brest was "very white".
By the way, "Valeurs Actuelles" is a far right newspaper.
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She's the worst kind. Socially racist ([calls for a complete ban on immigration bc brown people scary](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-elections-latest-marine-le-pen-immigration-suspend-protect-france-borders-front-national-fn-a7689326.html), party has [issues with Holocaust Denial because of its very real literal Nazi past](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/front-national-leader-jean-francois-jalkh-marine-le-pen-louis-aliot-quits-nazi-gas-chamber-deny-a7706971.html).) and also economically stupid ([protectionism, lowering retirement age](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39705744)).
["What makes Marine Le Pen far right?"](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38321401)
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40/28 is about 58% Macron, so presumably not too far off.
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I think you're definitely seeing a decoupling of the ideological left from the pragmatic left. In US it was Bernie Vs Hillary. In the UK it's Corbyn Vs 'New' Labour. In France it's Macron Vs Melenchon.
This is something that happened decades ago in Canada, but I think will become more prominent in other western countries.
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That's obvously not how we see thing despite why the leftist roaming here will tell you. Otherwise you would not get 44% of France voting for MLP/Fillon.
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24%, 33.9%, 52%, they should all be too high for comfort. The fact that Le Pen has a place in the discourse at all should be troubling, never mind quibbling over exact figures.
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The French election polls were actually less accurate than the US ones, but they underestimated Macron's vote rather than overestimating it, so no-one cared.
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Probably means that a lot of voters from other parties will put their support behind Macron now because they are making alliances.
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Macron has provided some points on increasing French security/police resources and improving the relationship between French youths and the police.
Melenchon has laid out a clear and detailed plan on how the EU (in his view) must be reformed to benefit everyone, and how France needs to be less dependant on the US.
Even if you disagree with them, these are actual constructive suggestions - Le Pen on the other hand is just screaming about how Muslims are evil and the EU is useless like every other far-righter.
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I know that in the Benelux, it is Macron strongly first followed by Fillon. I don't have numbers but Melenchon or Le Pen are pretty low (compared to national average) which is logic considering their positions on EU.
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Just because you don't like Trump doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't like him either. And seriously, man? You voted for Hilary? Wtf is wrong with you? Bullshit laws like the one being used against Le Pen would be the norm in the US if Hilary would've been elected.
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re: Vassal state. I think it best if we all ignore French politicians talking about Brexit for the next few months. I also wish Hollande had kept his cool with his "there must be a price" nonsense too. Their papers hoover this stuff up and the EU hate that comes back is amplified x 10.
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Just want to point out that the estimations that you have do not seem to be correct. All the results that I have seen put Macron ahead of Le Pen.
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Eh centrism isn't bad, but when mixed with globalism, that's when it starts making problems.
That said, Macron doesn't seem like that awful of a choice.
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>Wilders, sure. Marine Le Pen, less.
I'd agree in general if it wasn't for some of her talks. If someone wants to ban all religious clothing and adds "of course that means turbans, it's a good thing we don't have many Sikhs here!" then, yeahhhh... not so sure anymore.
What's missing to me is a party that openly represents zero tolerance towards non-cooperative governments, low tolerance towards repeating offenders but still lots of tolerance towards regular people like you and me just with a different background or skin colour.
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What is the deal with hot takes on Macron's "road to autoritarism"? This is France for fuck's sake, not freaking Nicaragua.
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Social democracy is not a far left ideology. For your partisan ass the Macron law is also a lie, the remarks his adviser said to desperate whirlpool workers are also lies, and his programme does not weaken worker rights and increase employer power. He is owed the votes of the left because between two extremists they can't choose they want to legitimise neither.
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Tribalism wins again!
Marine Le Pen for example was the living embodiment of the horseshoe theory.
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Question: Does Macron speak English, or is he just reading phonetically?
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I think Macron pretty squarely fits the definition of a neoliberal. That's one reason I'm excited about his presidency: global neoliberalism has been under assault lately. Here, there is no possible liberal outcome for the June election: both Labour and the Conservatives are led by deeply illiberal candidates. Hopefully Macron can revitalize that strain of political thought.
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The last couple of days have seriously given me the feeling that Macron is going to end up being regarded on a level with, say, de Gaulle as one of the great politicians in modern history once things are said and done.
(The US should give him retroactive natural-born citizenship and steal him for our presidency.)
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I don't know, ask the 30% of Melenchon voters, or the 27% of Fillon voters?
https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/856212134119780357
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This was literally the only hope I had after he won, was that he would be so bad Wilders/Le Pen would lose
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The article lays out the case that Macron and Trump could find more common ground than has been presumed thus far by comparing Macron's policy agenda to Trump's. While I think the article succeeded into showing the parallels, I also think it's pretty clear, even from the article, that the ends that Macron is seeking, and the means by which he intends to reach them, are much sounder than Trump's.
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Right, Queen Anne and the Macron-Putin meeting. But your point? What do Yaroslav's seal, the age of Moscow, and statues of Alexander the Great in FYROM have to do with anything? Honestly curious as I'm having trouble following.
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He's a Le Pen with more right-wing economics. Just as authoritarian.
But he does get some votes ;)
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We all know that Macron sucks already.
We also know that Lepen is much worse.
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>Mr Fillon's party apologised on Saturday for tweeting a caricature of rival Emmanuel Macron that Mr Fillon admitted was anti-Semitic.
>And on Sunday it emerged that he had accepted two suits from a friend worth €13,000 (£11,500; $13,900).
>France sets a limit of €4,600 that any individual can donate to a candidate.
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No, it's an excellent analogy, I think you just missed it. Mussolini technically wasn't a nazi, but his ambitions and ideology ran parallel to them.
Whilst the Le Pens have never been members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party either, their ambitions and ideology run parallel to those of the nazis.
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What i see is
-- gays like Macron
-- gays made ads for Macron in the style "he is one of us"
-- we don't like that there are so many high-profile ads for Macron
Nothing else . Russians may be anti-gay, but this particular article makes no anti-gay comments, not even hints . I may be wrong , please explain how you feel the hint makes sense
Extrapolating known "for sure" Russian attitudes to this particular article is exactly textbook definition of bias, as far as I know, again please explain how you feel otherwise
Edit grammar
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Not much.
I hope Hollande didn't threat with taking money from Poland if they don't endorse Tusk.
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Wow i thought she won't go this far.
Go Macron!!
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>Also I do not find right and left extremism as exciting, especialy in times where most people forgot about the horrors of war or strong leaders.
Maybe I'm misreading your comment, are you calling Macron a left-wing extremist? Part of what makes him independent is that he's remarkably pragmatic on economic issues, putting him firmly in the center by French standards. Framing Macron and Le Pen as two sides of the same coin would be naive.
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Funny to hear somebody who didn't give their own opinion, and merely gave criticism, complaining about somebody that gave their opinion not housing any of their own opinions.
My argument against Le Pen is that she could seriously crash the EU which would be bad for everybody France included, and I hardly see France as being in the economic position to afford her ideas.
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I read that one email said the leader of the party called Melenchon "merde".
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I'm not that well versed in French politics, here are some decently well known equivalents.
Macron - Obama (young liberal change candidate but corporate friendly)
Harmon - Warren (progressive Dem)
Melenchon - Sanders (progressive anti-establishment)
Fillon - Romney (Typical Republican)
Le Pen - Trump (anti-establishment Nationalist)
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> Well, it's not like Le Pen really wanted to take money from Russians
Yeah, I'm sure it's also not like she *really* wanted to recognize illegally occupied territory as part of the Russian state, it just kinda happened that way, right?
There is literally no scenario in which a disaster for the EU doesn't end up being a disaster for the average French citizen.
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I'm a simple shill, I see Macron, I upvote and recolt my check.
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#**MERCI, MONSIEUR MACRON**
So I guess we couldn't wait, so this will be our neoliberal upvote party?
##**MACRON PRENDS MON ÉNERGIE!**
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That's especially bad, because some of the 29% have to be Macron voters.
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Basically the TLDR version of the positions of Czech representatives:
Government: anti-MENA migration, against the refugee quotas, but otherwise fairly pro-EU. In favour of further cooperation in defense, but otherwise cautious about multi-speed Europe. Not keen on joining the eurozone.
President: absolutely strongly against MENA migration, so obviously against the quotas as well, combination of pro-Russia, pro-China and pro-Trump views. But also not directly against the EU in the way Le Pen or Wilders are.
We have the general elections in autumn and presidential elections in January 2018, so the situation might change after that.
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Le Pen is a nationalist liberal. Yeah it's antinomic. It's simply because her economic program is bullshit.
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> Blah, blah, non-productive bitching, blah, blah, non-productive bitching, blah, blah, not looking at your arguments on "why", blah, blah, but still bitching becouse simply you disobey and that's all I care, blah, blah, some more bitching.
So, all that you're saying is that you still didn't get it. Even France's gonna leave you, with such poor skills, Macron isn't eternal.
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They are everywhere. You can Macron, but you can't hide.
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> even if Merkel wins another round (that woman seems unstoppable)
I am sure that ,one day before the elections, uncle Vlad's servants will serve us with something outrageous that will tip the scale for AfD, like emails proving that Mutti Merkel dislikes Apfelschorle or something. Just like they did with Macron. LOL
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I tend to agree with this. The political climate is ripe for a centrist with smart ideas based in evidence over people who shout the loudest. Tacking hard to the left is a terrible idea for the Dems and tacking right has been disastrous for our country, even though it's been a net gain for the GOP. Our political culture has become so toxic that we need a Macron-like figure to enter the game at some point.
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Or; the vanguard of neo-fascism if Le Pen gets elected. I can't believe the French would be doing that - republican ideals and all - but these days one can't be sure of anything eh..
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Le Pen is reasonably similar to Trump: tough on immigration, dog whistle identity politics, economic protectionism, etc. (although she's smarter and more articulate and in general less of a buffoon on the surface)
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> 43% of macron voters were only voting against a literal fascist and will abandon him like they did the PS
check out the legislative elections coming up for france
>bernie would have won
bernie has already won. he gets to be a career politician complaining from the sideline while hillary retired.
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The subjectivity was based in you saying macron and Merkel were better. I believe they are all corrupt. Your knowledge of American politics is obviously based on reddit.
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What the hell are you talking about? Le Pen was one of the favorite to go to the second turn...
And as everyone said, the Brexit and Clinton elections were both predicted to finish liuke 52-48 whereas this election is predicted to finish like 70-30 so the comparison is not possible.
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Great news that people who are pro-life don't have to pay a single penny for the killing of the babies. It is irrelevant to suggest that because there are other benefits through the funding of health access, it is okay to kill babies. Planned Parenthood has been using the money to maximum effect and even though they don't use the taxpayer's money(Hyde Amendment, which the Dems tried to repeal), they free up the space for PP to use for abortion services. Once again, great to hear this news. God bless.
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POPULISTS BTFO, LE PEN CUCKED, MGGA, ALL HAIL GOD EMPEROR MACRON!!!!!!
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I think in that case you would see Macron dropping to 3rd. Do not wish that situation.
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Macron will crush the puny hands of the enemys of france one handshake at the time
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And Trudeau. I can't wait for the inevitable Macron/Trudeau fan fiction.
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>Trump 2.0
Something much worse than Trump. Le Pen is actually competent in her politics plus she was raised by literal Nazi.
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Possibly. I think Hollande would be more of a parallel than Trump though.
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Fillon will gut the social system if you look into his public plans. There's just no way a rational socialist would vote to deconstruct a system because Le Pen is anti-immigrant, which is in fact a reflection of the majority.
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Everyone I know is voting Mélenchon or Macro. No one is voting Le Pen.
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Enlighten us then. What exactly have you seen in Macron's emails?
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This ignores the fact that Melenchon would have won by a mile if Hamon had just gotten out the way. Far-left is the new center.
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I really hope that should Macron win he'll come out in support of him. I'd love to see how the two of them do together.
I know it's not too likely, but it would be nice.
I think it would 100% guarantee victory as well.
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Indeed. So what if Macron's presidency turns into an abject failure because after all this hype he is no better than Hollande, and the next President is of Le Pen stock?
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Way to go t_d!......hahahaha
Le Pen's dad wouldn't vote for her....
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> , I ask you do you really care about the LGBT community at all and isn't putting the spotlight on every country who oppress LGBT rights an important factor for every leader?
Sure, can you show me where Macron has expressed his support of throwing gays off buildings.
If he called out Saudis would you then say "What about Russia?!"
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First of all, [Trump did weaken Russian sanctions](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-relaxes-u-s-sanctions-on-russia-imposed-under-obama/). Though that was really stupid, considering how strong the evidence for Russian meddling was, I expected that he'd leave the sanctions intact for at least 1-2 years to make himself look clean. I guess he couldn't wait.
Second, you misunderstand why Russia meddles into other countries elections. They rarely want to literally put a puppet, that's really hard because France, US, etc. are not Ukraine. What they want is to weaken and destabilize their opponents.
Brexxit doesn't help Russia directly, nor does Le Pen victory, but a weaker EU does.
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As someone who is very much against all these people and things you mentioned, I think your comment is really dumb.
You are surprised that right wingers typically have opinions that align with right wing ideologies? Really? Are we also part of some evil conspiracy because us non-right wingers dislike Trump, Le Pen and Wilders?
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The polls *weren't* accurate for the French election, though. Macron won by a waaay larger margin than the polls would have predicted. At least according to Nate Silver.
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This is just my personal opinion, but I fear that a Le Pen victory would begin deeply dividing NATO countries into one side that's far-right and the other side being centrist or left-leaning. It could lead to an even greater disaster for all of us, and we'd become vulnerable to actually making backwards progress where a united Western world is concerned.
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The organization Le Pen wants banned didn't call for violence either. People have been arguing that their speech is more closely related to the result of violence, even if they didn't call for it. The problem is that that cuts both ways. If being related to later violent acts is enough, then calling a high population of Muslims a "problem" has to deal with the se relatedness standard when violence keeps going up against Muslims.
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Yeah I know but in other societal issues (immigrations, security,..) he went towards Le Pen. I see it as Le Pen-Fillon close on societal issues while going in opposite ways economically (where Fillon is closest to Macron indeed). Melenchon-Le Pen kind of close economically while going on opposite ways societally (though not really, just who would benefit from the social help).
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Yeah! But it's annoying because it will feed the narrative that Macron has not a real mandate.
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>Well that puts everything into perspective. Let's bring back Le Pen so she can install her junta.
I'd love to articulate a reply, but I'm having trouble speaking around all these words you've shoved in my mouth.
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Sure, but throwing him in with Hollande seems a bit rough. *Everyone* hates Hollande!
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If Marine Le Pen's emails were hacked *as well* then your transparency point would be valid. "Transparency" only affecting one side of an election isn't transparency.
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Her supporter? Where? Her representativity here is non existant. This is place is devoted to macron. R/France is a communist cesspool.
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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I don't know why you're sounding surprised, this was the predicted poll result for the last month. The same polls that are also predicting a Macron [win by over 30 points](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election%2C_2017#/media/File:Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017_Macron%E2%80%93Le_Pen.png)... And now he's just been endorsed by the PS AND LR parties (with UF likely soon to follow).
So no, this isn't "happening again."
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worldnews
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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Le Penn is an awful awful candidate. So many flaws, crazy protectionist, and not at all conservative. She's just an inflammatory nationalist who has no knowledge of the economy. The other guy as the_donald would put it is a "cuck" but I'd rather vote for him, wait a few years and then vote for a non corrupt solid candidate. Le Penn is nothing like Trump
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Conservative
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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This place seemed the only one as enthused as I was over Macron's win
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neoliberal
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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You are not wrong lol, I live in Indiana so I know first hand how horrible Pence is
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worldnews
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French politics
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annotator02
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Thin Morality
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Confident
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A good chunk of France's millionaires just hopped over to Switzerland when Hollande pushed for a 75% tax.
Unless you have a captive audience, billing or taxing people an obscene amount of money when they can easily leave is retarded.
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worldnews
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French politics
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annotator02
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Proportionality
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Confident
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Listening to Macron is much better than reading about him, even favourable articles. I think it's because I read about him mostly on Reddit and they focused somewhat more on his left-wing side.
But as a center-right kind of guy, I found him quite good last night. He missed some moments but I liked, mostly, what I heard.
I disagree with him on certain issues, but he's growing on me.
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europe
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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They all know Macron can be worked with, he is interested in building, Le Trump is interested in destroying.
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neoliberal
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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> People hate Hollande because he said he'd govern from the left but after the election moved to the center immediately.
Those people are the 19%(Meluch's result)+6%(Hamon's result). Sure the result would have been big enough to let one of the them in the second round. But still.
The left was fractured, the right was fractured and as such the center won.
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europe
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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Do you guys agree that the EU should have a uniform tax policy, as said by Macron? Or do you think it'd be better to have it like the US?
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neoliberal
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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I think that voter meant it more in the way that pro-business policies are right-leaning and are a gateway drug to far-right policies like Le Pen, not that far-right policies are reactionary to pro-business policies. Or maybe he did mean it that way. Whatever.
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neoliberal
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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The timeline's a bit off on your part. Maybe because you lot have only learned about it now, but the Banks and the Russian affair was going on even before Macron was a candidate.
Please however, continue with the conspiracy instead of the other explanation that the FN is so corrupt and has defaulted on so many debts that they have the trust of no French banks.
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worldnews
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French politics
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annotator02
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Proportionality,Loyalty
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Somewhat Confident
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> Melenchon [...] have a more powerful popular base than Hollande.
What ?!
Hmm... No.
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europe
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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Perhaps*. It appears to be an unlikely scenario at the moment though, anyway.
*While a Le Pen victory would give a good chance of a 'Frexit' happening, I don't think it would definitely happen. I also don't see any advantage of getting rid of a single market, single currency and common travel area between Germany and BeNeLux, and I don't think it's likely regardless of what else happens.
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europe
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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We didn't watch the same debate, apparently. One example where MLP wasn't steamrolled by Macron's arguments?
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worldnews
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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All hail the new president of France!
"What do you have to say to your overwhelming victory against Miss Le Pen Mr. President?"
"Meeeh!"
"As you say your goatness!"
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europe
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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I can't believe that anyone would think Harper was anything like Le Pen or Trump. Trump especially. Despite his policies, Harper was at least capable of intelligent speech, and was undeniably very politically adept. Trump is a dog eating his own vomit by comparison.
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worldnews
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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I have a strong dislike for Le Pen and friends, but trying to claim that this has nothing to do with immigration or integration of immigrants simply because the attacker was born in the UK (the recent attackers in France were also born in France, I believe) is disingenuous.
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worldnews
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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Probably because more muslims coincides with industries, labour, which coincides with lower intelligence/education/income amongst the 'local' population.
There's no other way to explain the fact that Paris didn't go for Le Pen even though there's lots of muslims there. Other factors play an important role here.
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europe
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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Love seeing all the Le Pen fans slamming her for this considering the age gap between Trump and his wife is pretty much the same
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worldnews
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French politics
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annotator02
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Non-Moral
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Confident
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