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I just read a email saying Macron's dick is HUGE!
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Marine Le Pen is a French politician who leads a right wing party in France
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Dismissing and marginalising points of view as irrational doesnt solve the issue. You cannot, as you have argued, dismiss these opinions as sexism and prejudice when the issue itself was brought up through macrons actions. There needs to be absolute explanations, and reasoning, for their appointment. It could very well be that exactly 50% of the people considered the best for their job were women, but mentioning gender parity only muddies the water with regards to this. People are demanding transparency, not men in these positions. Again, its not sexism, or irrational.
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This is the same over Lord, who said Le Pen wouldn't get close to being elected, that she's a wash out, from an interview on France 24 news.
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Le Pen shows yet again that not unlike Trump, in reality she has no idea what she is doing.
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>Putin visits France for talks; Macron does not give a Royale with Cheese. Happy now?
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Probably because Sarkozy was overwhelmingly pro-American and pro-NATO and Hollande was a ghost president. But I think Macron will deeply change France, he is one of the rare politician to overtly talk about more integration and frequently mentions "le bloc franco-allemand". In my opinion, it's definitely where the EU is going.
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The question is who should the people vote for if they want change? If it is too close to the middle, probably nothing will happen. Like with Hamon or Macron. If its too far right/left, the admired change can backfire heavily.
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It will affect the vote. But probably not the way you think. Macron is the victim of a global cyber attack and they won't have time to find anything compromising. He's going to appear like a victim.
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Ah yes, because all of those Russian banks are donating to Le Pen's campaign out of the kindness of their hearts.
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This is why Macron won. Seriously, there are people that stop caring about healthcare because their feelings got hurt when rape is called for what it is ? That sounds like they didn't really care about the left in the first place.
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I chose language that is brutal in tone because we are discussing brute barbarism that is veiled in procedure and normalcy. I didn't say "whole penis", So my phrase is not overly false. And I think the term "chopping up" is actually more accurate than "circumcision", which veils the brutality and violation behind a false tone of scientific legitimacy, and is literally inaccurate (the procedure isn't cutting around the genitalia. It's chopping off an important part)
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The title: "Emmanuel Macron blames 'homophobia' and 'misogyny' for obsession with his older wife." I have no doubt that people made up rumors about him being gay, but that's really unrelated to disparate treatment in relationship mixed-age relationships between men and women. The title is just...wrong, as phrased
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>Le Pen panders directly to them How does she pander to racists? What has she said to support racism?
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He's not as good as Macron, a lot of Libdems are accomplices to Labour.
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Trust me here in France we'll all vote for Macron whether or not those documents are legitimate isn't gonna change a thing since we just want Le Pen to get harshly fucked
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Obviously we can't know for sure, but the far-right and far-left are both doing fairly well in France at the moment, which worries me. I personally believe that Macron's policies have the potential to improve France's economic situation, but the implementation of them will be dependent on the Assembly elections later this year. I can't see the people voting for the extremists ditching them unless their lives improve in real terms.
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I've always heard that regulatory protections for workers in Nordic countries are pretty "weak" compared to the rest of Europe. This is what Macron is trying to achieve in France and he's not perceived as a social democrat.
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Excactly. This gives one a good idea about the effectiveness of our sanctions: http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/images/2016/02/blogs/graphic-detail/20160206_woc909.png * Putin anexes Crimea (and we sanction) = Putin's popularity skyrockets by 20 points (which is more than Hollande has at all) from 60 to 80. * Rouble Collapes = Putin's popularity remains unchanged.
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Because its likely the people voting for Le Pen have lost all hope in changing things entirely.
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Depend on the country. Lebanon isn't mandatory for anyone. Le Pen was only request by an imam (?) to wear it so they could meet. In Saudi I think is only mandatory for Saudi women but in Iran I think is mandatory for all women who are in Iran (which includes tourists, of course).
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Hopefully france will not be convinced, and btw, in the french election system hillary would have won. (I am not trying to compare her to macron though)
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Possible, but unlikely. Assuming Fillon ends up third and Macron makes it to the second round, as polls suggest, he will be a palatable enough centrist choice for the Christian vote. Even if the choice will be between Le Pen and Hamon, I think most would go with the latter.
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The title is phrased wrong. Most millenials don't support le pen and those that do are prioritising immigration, terrorism and security to any other issue.
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If Le Pen gets to run the country she will destroy everything Enlightenment accomplished and stands for. It's obvious she doesn't believe in freedom of speech or democracy.
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I'd wait first. It might die down after awhile, since the sub just got a surge of subscribers and hype after the macron win.
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He's not a socialist. Socialist candidate Hamon didn't go to the 2nd turn.
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I think I'm a smart guy -- or at least pretty smart. What the hell did you just say? Again, I'm a teacher -- and from my perspective it's very clear - students are students. I'd never date a student, even if they were of age and no longer my student... students and teachers have a relationship, and it should end at that. Whatever went on between Macron and his wife - sugarcoat it anyway you wish - it was wrong.
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On schools: >Macron: "Reduce class sizes, promote apprenticeships, (more coherent points)..." >Le Pen (first sentence): "Socialists ruined everything!", uses the term "socialist" an additional 3 times, discusses veils because fuck talking about educational quality Buzzwords errywhere
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Betting exchange says 86% Macron, 14% Le Pen... Unlikely but perhaps not as unlikely as some are making out here https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.117179983
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Go watch him talk about Le pen any time, you will see. He has always been one of the most vocal critic of Le Pen. He will always stand against the Le Pen and the National Front ideology. He is not on top of a party, giving orders to people. So he asked them what they think and will make the result public.
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Le Parti Socialiste is the Hollande's party. Hollande was a very unpopular President, so that explains in part why the Party is unpopular. Besides, Hamon, the Socialist candidate who won the Primary elections, was not endorsed by a lot of old Socialist representatives, who preferred endorsing Macron. In my opinion, this treason is responsible for Hamon's very weak score.
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No, which is a proof OP is bullshitting. They go 50% abstention, 40% Macron, 10% Le Pen.
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I don't actually believe you, but I'll formulate my response as if you are. Your opinion on Macron or Trump means exactly nothing, by posting what you do, you help the opposition by driving that wedge inbetween parties. You are helping the cause you hate.
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To be fair its not really a grand colation or national unity, since the only parties participating as such are En Marche and Modem. Others joined the government individually, and the platform is strictly Macron's (with a slight addition from Modem), not a coalition platform.
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Both Melenchon and Le Pen were running on an anti-EU platform I guess?
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Eh, all old Austrian parties appeal to the backward, isolationist countryside, so övp and sometimes even SPÖ are more hostile to non-Austrian EU workers than Fillon would ever be.
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Can't show that Le Pen actually has a decent shot at winning, no no no. Might increase turnout to those who would otherwise stay home.
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Who gives a fuck?? Is the media trying to start a Macron VS Trump meme?
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> It also feels like they don't know Melenchon's position with regards to Europe. I keep seeing this critic on public figures who support Mélenchon. Is it so hard to fathom your own view is also partisan and biased, and theirs is well informed, draws different conclusions from yours, and approves or at least thinks it's no big deal? Stop making out your political opponents as stupid or ignorant and combat them as the sensible people they are that simply follow a different logic.
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This political revitalization and skin-shedding is long overdue in all of Europe. The first populist wave was quite unpleasant but perhaps Macron signals the start of something new.
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Really insane? LIke "not my president" insane? Starting riots and contesting democracy while writing "protect democracy" on transparent? Lets see how Le Pen supporters react to the loss and draw conclusions then yourself.
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France about to MFGA with Le Pen! This is the best timeline folks!
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Muslim country does something undemocratic Le Pen shows how Islam is not compatible with the Western World
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No no no. The whole family has been sent back to Kosovo, and she did not want to leave her family. Controversy was about: 1) The way she has been 'caught': she was at school while her parents were arrested, so police waited for her at school exit, 2) She was fully integrated, French speaking and good at school. That was such a shock for French people that Francois Hollande, our President at that time, made a public announcement: 'Leonarda Dibrani can come back, alone.' Ok, too late, but don't say she has been deported alone.
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Hahaha, le reddit circlejerk at it again. Theresa May, that well known evil nazi fascist. Even putting Le Pen and Putin in the same sentence is moronic. Ironically showing democracy to be crap while trying to defend democracy, well done /u/DarkPasta.
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>claims to be entirely evidence based >thinks macron will win
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You realise that Encyclopaedia Britannica literally refers to Le Pen's party as an example of neofascism right? Disagree with it all you like, but don't claim "The National Front in France" isn't Le Pen's party.
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They aren't America First. They love Brexit, Le Pen, Wilders, Putin, Assad, etc, while opposing Institutions that help America tremendously, like NATO.
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The principal difference would be their attitude towards globalization and cultural mixing, which Melanchon somewhat welcomes and Le Pen completely hates.
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Macron has done more for France in two week than trump has done ever for USA
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Polish TV claimed La Pen won the debate, was more energetic. I wondered why they framed it like that but then I remembered that Macron said Kaczynski is like Erdogan and Putin, which really pissed PIS off (pun intended). Kaczynski appears anti-Russia while doing everything Putin would like him to do.
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Let's not exaggerate. Let's be honests with ourselves. In Romania someone like Orban or Le Pen would never rise. But not because of the welcoming tolerance and political intelligence of the Romanian people, or at least not mainly because of that. The main factor that prohibits the rise of classical populists (you may argue that PSD is populist, yes, but to a certain degree) is the much too recent memory of a hated and horrible regime. I'm talking here about the fascist type of communism we had here.
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It's the year 20XX in France. Melenchon is President, and the highest marginal tax rate is 100%. Economists and Arthur Laffer say to Melenchon, "lowering taxes will raise revenues!" But the commies respond "haha dumb conservatives, tax cuts don't pay for themselves." Commies start sharing Goolsbee memes making fun of people who'd lower taxes. Melenchon passes a bill increasing the marginal tax rate to 110%.
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Well, Austria and France have a pretty long history of far-right parties (see Le Pen's father or Jörg Haider in Austria). Far-right parties have gained foothold in several European countries in the last decade or so, and in Eastern European countries like Hungary and Poland they are actually in control of the government. But far-right is nothing close to traditional American conservatism (the Republican party), but you could draw several parallels with Trump though.
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The two Frenchies I know voted for Macron, I would assume most would go for Macron or Fillion.
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French values like Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité ? I don't think Le pen is a fan of those values :)
worldnews
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Yes. Someone is inherently discredited from speaking as an economics authority if they support Le Pen, Trump, Sanders, Corbyn, etc. on economic grounds.
neoliberal
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Agreed. Trump has no scruples, but also no real convictions. Le Pen is a true believer and very scary.
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actually it is helping a lot. if you leave your crystal forecast chamber you probably realize that there is no way le pen gets elected, france is still france. it's all about disguise and deception to make people worry and find ways to implement rules and laws, that at least hold the status quo for some people. europeans are slowly realizing what the union is providing and start to appreciate it.
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The Rothschild conspiracy has no basis in reality, working for a bank doesn't make you evil. Globalism is a buzzword, also not being a hardcore nationalist doesn't mean you aren't patriotic. Patriotism is love for one's country and nationalism is an ideology. There is no proof that Macron has committed treason.
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I did my complaining two weeks ago. My favourites lost that's too bad. But right now it was a choice between the status quo and dog whistle fascism. Don't mind me having a favourite between these. I'm celebrating Le Pen's loss, not Macron's victory. As much as I'm worried about the lack of fundamental changes under Macron, I was far more worried having another Trump elected in one of the most influential countries of the EU.
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>Investigators are looking into possible misuse of public funds after a French newspaper alleged that Fillon’s Welsh-born wife, Penelope, was paid €500,000 (£430,000) over eight years as his parliamentary assistant for work she did not perform. It is not illegal for French politicians to employ spouses or members of their family, but there is an obligation for them to carry out the job.
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This was rather tame compared to what Mélenchon and Poutou were saying when they were talking to Le Pen. Poutou (a small left wing candidate, nothing to lose) straight up said Le Pen's "anti-system" rhetoric is bullshit and she hides behind the system (EU parliamentary immunity) whenever she can.
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how is this an insult ? Macron has always been pro-EU.
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Oh no the poor people, don't dare to criticise them when they act irrational. Not voting Macron if you prefer Macron over Le Pen is stupid. Democracy and ruling a country is always about chosing the lesser evil. There are no way to magically make earth to heaven. These voters should grow up and get their shit togethere. If they think Le Pen is a good a president as Macron, that is fine. But they should also stand up to criticism over that.
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Absolutely hilarious that right wing populists hate Macron for "being shady" when their only evidence is that he started at the bottom and worked his way up to success. Ironic that "the establishment" is their friend when it suits them.
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France voted for liberty and freedom. Le Pen fell on her racist fucking face.
worldnews
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Except that meaning is incoherent at best, and is often used as a label applying to people with similar views as the sub, such as Macron or Clinton, who have fairly standard, post Keynesian views, to adopt your terminology real quick. (The wikipedia article doesn't reflect how the term is used in academia, it's actually used as "people leftists/we don't like")
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Holy shit, Macron I (GoShogun) is such a blatant aesthetic rip-off of MSG 0079 it's not even funny.
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>Anyone who thinks that Trump or Le Pen are going to round up gays and minorities in concentration camps is delusional. Yes, it's completely delusional to think that a man who wants to end all muslim immigration and to set up a muslim registry might have xenophobic views (or, at least, might want to implement xenophobic policies).
europe
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It's what they're saying but it's definitely fanaticism and trust. Much like older people still genuinely 100% believe Fillon is innocent (and will vote for him no matter what), it's misguided trust, but trust nonetheless, based on ignorance if you want but if you stay pragmatic and look at the current situation, her interests are fine (albeit slowly declining recently)
europe
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Macron is just objectively not left-wing, it's nothing about purity tests the guy is literally an investment banker.
worldnews
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I think that Le Pen and Fillon going into 2nd round together is less realistic than Le Pen beating Macron. Between the rounds there are debates, thing could more realistically happen.
europe
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What's point of doing a primary if no one will respect what the people want ? People chose Hamon over him and Valls didn't respect the vote while he promised he would. That's not really democratic, I'm sorry.
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It's especially ridiculous when macron actually has reasonably well defined plans on how he will combat terrorism/extremism. But hey the guy acknowledged that you can't stop all terror attacks in a free society. That's means he loves terror right?
worldnews
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Because no country in history reacts particulary well to irregular migration. See Trump, Brexit, Le Pen, the AfD, the SVP etc.
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I think we should listen to Mr. Hollande. Europe should tend to themselves. We should leave NATO and the UN and remove the sanctions from Russia. No sense in provoking them. Also those 38 bases can be shut down. Europeans should be able to handle things themselves.
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>Better start by doing something else than turning the country into a dictatorship, which is what emergency powers tend to do. Yeah, that's why Hollande is still president of France.. no, wait.. Funny how France didn't turned into a dictatorship.
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Neoliberal Netflix and chill: * [Mitt](https://www.netflix.com/title/70296733) * [Emmanuel Macron: Behind the Rise](https://www.netflix.com/title/80190879) Any others?
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Today Le Pen proved she's unprincipled and disloyal. If she did that to her own party, imagine what she would do to France.
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anyone want to troll the far right? Le pen won a seat for the first time
neoliberal
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Melenchon is much worse than Bernie though, so this prospect terrifies me more
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Pen isn't the god damned president. Macron is. She doesn't matter anymore. You're like the 'whataboutclinton' Trump voter idiots. The ultra rich are killing millions and enslaving children everywhere for money. I'm certain you are against that, but you don't act like it.
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Neither would I, but Le Pen is far left on Macron economically.
europe
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Brexit, Trump, Le Pen to come! The end indeed! Merkel needs to find her way out too!
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You do realize Muslims that could be radicalized are not listening to Le Pen? Again, you have your opinion, and it's political. Imagine if you were silenced? You are calling me childish because I don't claim to have an idealogical stranglehold on the 'truth' of things? Her nefariousness is probably one of the most debated topics concerning her, thus being debatable.
worldnews
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I'm honestly surprised /r/worldnews is positive about this, however. Usually this thread is quite in favor of Le Pen and her ilk.
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In a fema camp just south of the border thousands of taco trucks are parked waiting for the order. And when that order comes we will witness the end of white european culture in north america. This is why macron won. You should have built that wall when you had the chance.
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Hamon, Duflot, Attard are gone. Urvoas and Vallaud Belkacem are in a difficult positions. We're taking all the experienced center left leaders and replacing them with unexperienced unknown people. I hope some of them will emerge as thoughtful, hardworking leaders or we're in trouble.
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Supporting Macron tells you that we aren't a mainstream moderate sub lol?
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Best poetry - i love Rimbaud. Good wine. Good cheese. People are unique. I was in Paris a few times and most of them found it sweet im trying to speak french :) I know their new president is not le pen which in my opinion is good.
europe
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Macron is Libertarian? Uh, he doesn't think tax is theft and he wants to actually fund stuff with the governmetn?
europe
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This is so wrong lol, Clinton had a very coherent worldview. Macron has supports ranging from the neoliberal left to the reactionary right.
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Not what I mean. I mean the fact that people like le pen and farage have anyone listening to them is problematic. That it is generally entirely placed on Muslims the effort to integrate. That every time a Muslim does something, everyone accuses Islam as a whole.
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> That said, I doubt any of this is actually going to hurt Le Pen's chances. Me neither, heh.
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A certain segment of the French population supports ISIS. By posting these images Le Pen was trying to show them and others the horrors of their atrocities and raise awareness about the threat they're facing. You think all the people slaughtered in the Paris and Nice attacks is just "fear-mongering"? You recommend burying you're fucking head in the sand when a group wants to wage genocide against your nation and kill your children?
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I wouldn't do that if I were you that's how the Donald made le pen loose
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/r/TheSquadOnPoint L to R Ben Berdanke: If his memes don't kill you, his bullets will Old Yellen: Will break both your legs. But first takes your dog out back and shoots it. Angela Murkel: "Run up on ~~Yeezy~~ Capitalism the wrong way, I might murk ya" The Don Macron: The Pen may be mightier than the sword, but what about a shotgun?
neoliberal
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Was Fillon really *that* conservative? I mostly just knew about his economic platform.
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