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This guy has literally called Le Pen a fascist. By his own reasoning, he's unwilling to support the opponent of a fascist.
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> Every poll conducted since the beginning of polling the race has put her in first place in the first round. That's not 'barely winning'. > Second-round polls are less reliable, and she's not trending that badly. I disagree. In the first round, she is only five percent or so ahead of both Fillon and Macron. In the second round, she loses to Fillon by 15-20% and Macron by 25-30% and in neither case is she trending towards closing that gap. It's not remotely close, even when taking into account margin of error.
geopolitics
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Does anyone know where the Macron people are chilling out right now in Paris?
europe
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Dude just look up Marie le pen islam you will see tons of stuff which show she has very negative vieuw of Islam and Muslims that was my point.
worldnews
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Aren't progressives pretty much social dems/left centrists like Obama, Macron? I though leftist referred to socialists while progressive meant pro-globalisation left-wingers like Obama et al.
neoliberal
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Listening to Macron's speech - did I just hear the crowd cheering "Cheese! Cheese! Cheese!"??
europe
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Interesting question. It has created a backlash in communities that feel left behind, which in turn has created the bizarre situations of Trump, Le Pen and Brexit, which are some of the most profound geopolitical oddities of the past 20 years! Digitalisation has also led to something of a distribution of political influence to the public, as seen with the arab spring and the rapid transmission of the unrest via social media. Really interesting question actually!
geopolitics
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Hamon betrayed nothing. He stayed true to the values promoted by Francois Hollande during his campaign. Hollande and everybody who voted for the law by El-Khomri betrayed the french who voted for a candidate who once said: "my enemy is finance". As for the primary, he ran fair and square and won, showing that people at the socialist party were not happy with the 5 years of Hollande.
worldnews
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It is bad because it panders to the lowest instincts of the voting crowd, use cheap rhetoric to discredit the opposition and cannot work without twisting facts. IE what's happening currently with Trump, Le Pen and even François Fillon. Wearing your stupidest arguments like a badge of honor because "at least you're not the elite" isn't something one should look for in a candidate...And yet, here we are.
europe
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Just looking at the top parties in the first election, I don't think Le Pen will win this one. Melenchon's further left voters will probably be quite inclined to vote in favour of Macron to avoid a Le Pen leadership, as well as Hamon's voters who have more in common with him... I think Fillon's voters may be split, as some probably won't want the far right ideology of Le Pen... Of course, this could all turn out to be wrong, so we'll have to see!
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Le Pen is the Petainist candidate for president of France. Betrayal of her country in service of foreign dictators is part of her platform. ;) What I wonder is how can Kaczynski's supporters keep repeating the lie that he's not Putin's lapdog when he's moved on from merely antagonising all of Poland's allies and towards aligning with well-known Kremlin puppets.
europe
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You're fearmongering against Le Pen and people on the right. But that's okay because to you, those are the 'right' people to fearmonger against. Your hypocrisy is staggering.
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You imply I'm being extreme, then use the most hyperbolic example to make your point. Le Pen opposes gay marriage, which would affect my life more as a gay person than some Muslims I'm unlikely to encounter.
europe
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maybe those who are extremist on both sides, conservatives and extremists, want to sway the public to polar opposites in which they create an environment that is not accepting and divide people, in turn creates more violence, thus destabilsation confirmed. win. no rational public would want a extremist government like le pen, but the extremists would love it. stay wise france, isnt the time to vote on emotion.
worldnews
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Macron's reasoning was "dangerous to health" which cigarettes DAMN sure are
worldnews
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So social democrats are not socialist? Wow, i'm stunned. Social democrats are part of socialism like pizza is part of italian cousine. Well, unless you are someone with communist fixation who says that socialism never existed. I think comparing Reagan and Thatcher to Macrone and Holland is an insult for first two. Macrone and Holland want more centralisation, bureaucratisation and more redistribution while R&T had completely contrary direction. Not mentiong personality values.
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Ew no. Hamon's policies were great, but Melenchon was regressive as fuck.
europe
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No. This is not whenever, it's just the last few months; there are several parties in France so this would be the left, the center left and the center right losing; and there is direct evidence of Russia funding Le Pen's campaign. Fortunately, Le Pen will not win because (unlike in America) she will need to win the popular vote in a two-sided run off.
worldnews
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What Farage fails to explain how he is going to reconcile the ultra-neo liberalism of the Brexitters with Le Pen's protectionism.
europe
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>5% of people in Paris voted for Le Pen. Paris, where all the "islamificafion" and the terrorist attacks are happening. **I never understand how it's always the rural areas that vote out of fear of something that does not even impact them, while those directly impacted stick with their principles.** Easy answer, education. People on rural areas are usually less educated, less informed and so on than on people who live on large cities, so it's easy to influence them. It's the same in almost all countries.
worldnews
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Literally as I turned in: Le Pen: That's an economic topic, You were economic minister and I know absolutely nothing about that, so yeah... lmao
neoliberal
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I was talking about Assads oppression actually, but now that you mention it Le Pen planned to destroy marriage equality and other fundemental freedoms in France. American politics have nothing to do with this and I'm not interested in talking about them.
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Was just browsing r/Politics, noticed [this tired old trope](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6goce7/bernie_sanders_says_labour_party_shows_the_way_to/dirtr7d/) rearing it's ugly head. DAE Macron is actually left for American politics?
neoliberal
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40, worked in an investment bank and teached in the top french administration school, became minister under Hollande (PS); 1 year ago, created his own movement. Is married with his high school french teacher (I put that here because americans tend to get a little mad hearing it; french get jealous). Politically, he is liberal : economically and socially. Quite fond of the nordic model (easier to fire an employee, minimum pay negociated by branch, strong unemployment support), don't care about religion or who you have sex with.
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I'm not even sure leftists would have voted for him, maybe even vote for Le Pen, betting that the "legislatives" would create an opposing majority, and that would prevent her from doing anything. He's incredibly hated by everyone, because during his campaign, he based his speeches on his honesty and ability to heal the country, and that's precisely when he got suspected of stealing public money with fake jobs for his family.
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That's really nice and all, but without any evidence I can't take anything you're saying seriously. And oh yeah... >Even if Macron wins it will not be by the margin indicated by the polls or within the margins of error. Macron outperformed expectations. How do you explain that?
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> I think Melenchon is too old now, it's going to be Corbière instead running for president. And it's going to be even funnier than Mélenchon.
europe
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What influence? You can't just make vague claims like collusion or influence when all you have to go on is X talked to Y. Would it still be influence if Le Pen took a phone call from Putin instead of visiting in person? Honestly it's as if you people won't be happy until we get Cold War Round 2.
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someone above gave a great response that might explain it a bit better: > Old people (in their 60s, 70s) think it is typical of homosexuals to marry older women. During the campaign, this was used to portray Macron as a homosexual to older catholics.
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i'm very happy that they didn't elect that neo-nazi Le Pen, but I am disappointed as this election solidifies our status as shittiest western country
worldnews
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Yes, Benoit Hamon. But Macron is good enough. Anybody is not willing to sale their country would be good enough. Unlike Fascist Le Pen who was ready to sell to the Putin mafia.
europe
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I'm not an expert in French politics, but I've heard otherwise: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/06/reuters-america-forex-dollar-rises-as-euro-dips-on-french-election-development.html >A poll on Friday showed that if Juppe replaced the scandal-hit Francois Fillon as the center-right candidate, he would likely win the election's first round, with centrist candidate Emmanuel Macron coming second - a scenario that would knock Le Pen out of the race.
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> that completely glosses over polls showing her losing to Macron or Fillon by 30 points in the 2nd round. That kind of looks like the margin Trump was going to lose by.
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> Ultra-loser Marine Le Pen's FN is on track to win 4-8 seats. Rounded to the nearest tenth of a percent, this means they're likely to win 0.0% of all seats. Uh... 4/577 = .7%
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About the author: >Graeme Leach is chief executive and chief economist of Macronomics, a macroeconomic, geopolitical and future megatrends research consultancy. I find it an attractive alternative to the "end of history" nonsense, but one thing I will say is that it needs a better name. 'Anglosphere' just doesn't sell; it's either ethnic or linguistic, offends Spanish and French-speaking minorities, can also refer to all English-speakers everywhere, etc. Even ['imperial federation'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Federation) would be preferable.
geopolitics
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Why is Marion opening a bottle of champagne? I know there was something of a political split with her aunt, but surely she wants her in the Élysée over Macron?
europe
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You can't really be serious! So if IS openly calls for their base to vote on Macron, we should deduct from that that Macron is an islamist? People vote strategic, the candidates they vote for can not be held accountable for whatever obscure motives their voters might have.
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Being accused and being racist are different things. Frankly you would really need to never pick up Charlie Hebdo to define them as racist. Which is usually how you know is someone has read it or just base this on hearsay. Blasphemous and antitheist, totally, but racist, not an inch. These guys were pretty hardcore humanists. Le Pen is 100% racist and nationalist. Which is a big reason why Charlie Hebdo were fiercely against FN (and by fiercely I mean that euphemistically).
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You say that like Macron cares about the working class and our rights. He's right leaning, whether he admits it or not.
worldnews
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So exclusive you can get a summer job there selling milk shakes and looking at old drunk people penis as they piss on the red woods.
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But those mechanisms are apparent more than not. And so while one should not trust a poll simply because it exists, there is ample reason to trust the polls out of France over the past week. Le Pen has no chance.
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The guardian actually used anti-Islam, anti-immigration as part of their proof that Le Pen is Neoliberal. So yeah. Checks out indeed
neoliberal
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Macron, the lad who won, is what you could consider to be something between Centrist and Liberal. Centrist/Liberal on social issues, Liberal/farther right-wing in economic regard. Not your typical American-liberal, mind you. Europe's politics take place on an entirely different scale. Le Pen, on the other hand, is far, far-right-wing. Extremely nationalistic, almost touching xenophobic. Ant-Immigration, Anti-EU and other international contracts.
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Hamon is Corbyn/Tsipras v.2, why do you want him to win?
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we don't need to, we have a macron party already ;) 10,000 subscribers tho
neoliberal
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It could actually be a good way of doing things. What I think is needed to control Trump is authority, experience and well-recognized respect; all things Merkel have. Putin on the other hand, could need a more energetic and pragmatic individual, who isn't afraid to speak their mind (which Macron clearly has shown he could do).
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I'm just waiting for Macron to get an EU military sorted so we can enter glorious Pax Europa.
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5% of Parisians voted for Le Pen on the first round against 11 other candidates. The Parisian vote of the first round in 2017 Presidential election,: * Macron 375,006 34.83% * Fillon 284,744 26.45% * Melenchon 210,548 19.56% * Hamon 109,550 10.18% * Le Pen 53,719 4.99% * Remaining 6 candidates: 3.48%
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No, Le Pen lost mostly because of her party anti-EU stance. You can be pro-european and against migration for outside of europe.
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Well actually that's more an answer to what republican candidate François Fillon did, hiring his wife and children to high paying jobs of alledgedly "counseling". Because reading the news to your husband every morning is a job worth 10000€ per month apparently... So Macron's answer to this kind of misuse of public money is to clarify the law and forbid to hire family members. His vision of France is that of a meritocracy and is very much against nepotism.
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Protectionism has nothing to do with left or right wings. As a Frenchman, you should know that people like Le Pen, Dupont-Aignan and Asselineau are protectionist despite being right-wing candidates or that the Socialist Party's candidate, Hamon, is rather liberal.
europe
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I'd be fine with Obama coming here and starting a new party. He can be our Macron.
neoliberal
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Nothing about Fillon's or any candidate's project is trickle down economics lol.
europe
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> Le Pen is left on economics even by European standards. She's some sort of Socialist Nationalist. Shame there's no party for that.
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> After /r/neoliberal Only visits reddit to thank mr. bernke and up-macron dank centrist memes. ~~Has time for other, more wholesome activities.~~ Spends entire day on discussion thread.
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Remember that Hamon, the Socialist Party candidate only came in fifth place with 8% of the vote while Melenchelon, a far-left candidate came in 3rd/4th place with 20% of the vote and is red on the map.
europe
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Why do you say that? Why would Le Pen be a more rational choice?
europe
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Hollande doesn't like Macron and has been betrayed by him. How much do you know french politics?...
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> Putin is such a political animal and hates being upstaged i'm not so sure, in a diplomatic way ofc he does not appreciate. But the man itself may have started to consider that Macron is a "worthy opponent".
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Theresa May can get rekt with her demands now. I predict a strong block forming around Merkel & Macron. M&M the dream team for a unified Europe!
neoliberal
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proabbly a lot like your head feels when you jump to le pens defence.
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It doesn't even make any sense. I don't think Wilders has ever been seriously accused of being in Russia's pocket. Such criticisms are more applicable to Trump and Le Pen. Just because all of them are far right doesn't mean they're all pro-Russia. Wilders hasn't been very outspoken on Russia.
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Polls might narrow in the second round if undecided voters decide on Le Pen
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I wouldn't be so sure. As an example, one of my aunts has spent her life alternating voting for Le pen and voting for the far left (Arlette Laguiller from LO). Some people need to have 'fuck you all politicians' choice who has some chance of winning. The program by itself matters very little.
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> Every society, every culture, every nation is different and to discuss politics without cultural context and as some sort of objective thing is redundant. We are talking about Le Pen, we are talking about France. What period is she being conservative if the social structures. >I don't see how "far right racist" (your words) contradicts the term conservative at all. Depending on the arbitrary time you pick in French society it doesn't, which is why it is just window dressing.
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Hauts-De-Seine are still not counted, which I think is a huge Fillon réservoir. Wait and see.
europe
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> But this is how fake news get started By reporting a verifiable fact? > this breeds tribalism and hatred So you are saying verifiable facts, thus reality beeds tribalism and hatred... > I could start rumors right now about Le Pen's opposition. Would they be verifiable facts? Probably not, which is REAL fake news. > If you have interesting to say, you can say it. But this thread right here is bullshit. What is bullshit? The verifiable facts that are squarely points to bullshit behaviour; or you trying to justifying alt fact-inators bullshit rumours?
europe
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I hate le pen but she is right. In my case for example I don't even enter the church when one of my friend, cousin etc. is marrying
worldnews
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Fucking hell that's the second dumbest thing Melenchon cpuld have done. How much difference will it actually make though?
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lol Le Pen and Strache aren't Nazi's despite people immediately equating far-right to Nazi. Azov Batallion and the current pro-European movement in Ukraine is however quite Nazi. They always were too; it's a good example of media bias and framing and it's power. For Anglo interests in particular it's better for the pro-European Ukrainians to be seen as courageous democracy lovers, so their supremacist views get a pass. It's pretty much identical to media treatment of the Al-Nusra subgroups in Syria. They're not Jihadis anymore if they want to assist the U.S. in deposing Assad.
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More or less, from an ideology PoV. Fillon isn't necessarily bad (for the EU); he is indeed more pro-Russia than every other politicians (I think?) in France, but he's also pro-EU and would prioritize the EU over Russia. About Macron, we don't really know his position towards Russia so it is assumed to be the generic stand ('not good, you bad boy, but maybe we can do something'). And Lepen is against the Euro to an extent, and completely pro-Russia.
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Fuck populism and people who don't understand evidence-based policy and just try to appeal to people's fears/lack of education. Fuck Trump, Fuck Bernie, Fuck Le Pen, fuck em all.
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25% in the first election voted for Le Pen, who is anti-EU. Merkel is pro-EU. Then there are the other anti-EU voters, and there you go. I think the math is pretty simple here.
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Oh, actually for me it's rather the Fillon team that opened my eyes haha. The amount of people blindly backing his statements, refusing to even mention anything about him, absolutely baffled me!
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Fillon = rich Christian gaullist right NDA = rural gaullist right
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>because the youth tend to be on the left of the political spectrum. Stop trying to see European elections through an Anglo lense. And afaik, in the first round Le Pen was strong with the youth, but she barely gained any young voters for the second round.
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Not quite :) More like Tony Blair. Or Barack Obama. Our Bernie Sanders would be more like Hamon maybe (PS, opposed to.Macron)
europe
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Mostly Macron, actually. The parisians suburbs, which host most of the 2nd or 3rd generation French muslims, massively voted blank or didn't vote at all.
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I'm skeptical because the source I cited showed the youth favoring other candidates. [So do this one](http://elabe.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/05042017_bfmtv_lexpress_intentions-de-vote-presidentielles-vague-7.pdf). Both show youth 18-24 disfavoring Le Pen while Le Pen has higher support from voters aged 25-34. Still, even the 25-34 age group is expected to vote 55-45 against Le Pen. It seems that the 25-34 age group are her strongest supporters, but the 18-24 age group has the least support for Le Pen.
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I live an hour from France I know election fraud is wrong but I think I should put on a beret and try to vote for Monsieur Macron tomorrow
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> It's too much masculinity for them. [Putin after being destroyed by Macron](https://ricardonagy.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/putin-crying.jpg)
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You know the whole "I'm reasonable" tactic was something that Le Pen pushed, but when the facade fell this was all revealed to be smoke and mirrors. Don't pretend that there is no cause for worry about the rise of these ultra-nationalistic parties.
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"but tehy said taht trump n brexit wont be hapening so that mean le pen will win"
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This is exactly what I meant and it is why Macron won.
neoliberal
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But he's not the president anymore. What position of power does he hold and how does endorsing her affect an election? Is Le Pen's meetings with Putin not considered interfering?
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American IT dev here: please hire me!!!! On a side note I thought it interesting how Macron said France in an American accent. I'm not sure what that means, I just thought that was something I've never heard a French person do.
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Fulfilling one Macron's promisses, french ethics panel [backs](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-politics-procreation-idUSKBN19I1TJ) expanding medically assisted fertility treatments to single women and female same-sex couples.
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The thing with melenchon making it to the second round is that he may not be able to win the support of people that are more center-right and maybe center-left. These people may abstain from voting.
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I mean, they elected someone who is most likely guilty of tax evasion at the least, but corruption no longer surprises me. Again, its not my fault if you cannot read. >The whole argument is moot. There is more evidence of Macron committing tax evasion and cooperating with the french government to get elected than the "Russian hacking narrative"
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Le Pen policies are self centered, she will have 0 interests whatsoever in teaming up with Poland and Hungary if she is elected. She wants out of the EU. Her policies will probably impact Polish workers in France which won't seat too well with Poland either.
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trump tries to to get rid of any press freedom and make them his propaganda tool. That alone is enough to compare him to hitler for carnival purposes. There is no need to discuss any other part of his politics. The wagon also suggests that wilders and le pen will do the same if they get into power, not necessarily that they already did(based on supporters its not really unlikely either)
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I'm just saying that Trump was not likely to win, he won but the majority of the us voters did not want him to. This kind of situation can't happen in France as the electoral system is different. Le pen will get to the run off and the person who will be competing against her will win, because the majority of voters will vote against Le Pen.
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How can you consider yourself left wing if you can’t even be anti-fascist ? Supporting Macron is an absolute no brainer for any anti-fascist, period.
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Anyone care to comment on the symbolism of greeting the crowd to the EU's anthem? While I don't think it's shocking, I do think it's symbolism was known when deciding on the music. Macron won in the year of Brexit, Trump, nationalists, and Russian interference. The EU must face all of these. I think it shows that at least for right here and now, France is committed to the European project.
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Macron not celebrating, acknowledging that the country is divided, saying that he has a lot of responsability. Good.
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People wouldn't decide on this. Most people I know wanted "anything but Fillon/Sarkozy" on the primaries, even if they all had previously some corruption scandals. They don't even care that much about the scandals any more. Even if they hate Fillon, they'd rather have a known evil that some wildcard like Le Pen.
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He's not Le Pen and he's not Fillon. If Hamon was in 3rd instead of Macron you'd see the same fawning.
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same shit, will vote macron because I don't want to end up with Fillon-Le Pen in the 2nd round, but god if Hamon had the intelligence to withdraw I'd wote Melenchon in a heartbeat.
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I'm looking for some gif of Macron x Trump handshake.
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Yes on the first, the second doesn't have any hard proof, but Russia is the only entity that would benefit from Le Pen, and her party is funded through loans from a Russian state controlled bank.
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