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Oh rubbish. She got 23% in the first round and it was unlikely she would gain another 20%. From whom? The hard left voters? The Fillon supporters?	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
If Melenchon somehow overtakes him for second place I'm going to start shoving populists in the streets. Fillion needs to drop out and endorse Macron.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Care,Authority	Somewhat Confident
Stranger things have happened, everybody seems to be uniting against Le Pen kind of like what happened in America, hmm, I think the French have a word for this, deja vu?	Conservative	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty,Authority	Confident
We first have to work on making sex a less of a taboo in society, before tackling the religious aspects. Sex should be as normal for adults as any other thing like peeing or shitting. We should educate young children (without confusing them) how the act of sex works when they're much older. Just a plain, "male penis get hard because blah blah, female vagina gets 'wet' because blah - at this point you could insert the penis into the vagina".	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Not to mention the Kremlin's current active cyberattacks and propaganda warfare against Macron and others. They are being funded by a state actor assaulting French democracy directly, including on their behalf. I want to know how they reconcile this with their nationalism, which implies a deep loyalty to France. Geert Wilders had the same problem, with much of his funds coming from Israel and Breitbart's Horowitz (who was acting as a real-life anonymizing proxy for foreign funding of Wilders).	europe	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty	Confident
Do you think that in a country where the media paint LePen as the savior of France, and Macron as some establishment prick, that the results would have been the same? Because the reverse scenario just happened. You can't ignore the influence of media, that's just nonsense.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I think you're on to something, but I also think the 2008 financial crisis and its aftereffects played a role. Even if Corbyn loses, the fact that he made it this far would seem pretty jarring to someone from, say, 2003. Same goes for rw nationalists like Wilders and Le Pen- sure they (thankfully) didn't win, but their parties' respective vote shares have grown significantly. I don't think neoliberalism's necessarily doomed or anything, but I also worry that it's revitalization isn't a fait accompli.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Remember early in the day, when it felt like the post-Macron fervor was dying down?	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Jeez. The FSB really should have spent more time researching French culture before launching this propaganda campaign. Does Putin really think a sex scandal could bring down a French politician Edit: on the other hand, this would be pretty hot fanfic. Maybe Putin and the alt-right are just secretly gay for Macron?	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Macron also was projected to get around 55-60% against the left in the second round.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Economically speaking, Le Pen is nowhere near a strong right wing. She might grab the votes of the more socially conservative, but Macron is nearest to Fillon on economics	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
It's comments like that which cause people to vote for people like Le Pen. Casual Islamophobia impacts reader's mindsets.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Equality	Confident
Marine le Pen's ambitions : "National Priority to the French", aka, national priority to white Christian people. If you don't consider that's true, you've already been radicalized to far right politics.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Equality	Confident
Putin is the mastermind behind Trump, Brexit, France, Geert Wilders, and every other nationalist who will somehow secure hidden Russian interests. Did I mention Le Pen has a conversation with Putin? They definitely discussed their nationalist new world order. Totally.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
for a moment i thought that meant Macron had 62% and Le Pen 64% please dont fire me soros	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ MACRON TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Doesn't seem like it's hurt them much at all; it's the political death of Hamon more than anything.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
true, but except for Fillon (and even him would have had a better chance of winning than her) any of the first 5 candidate would have beaten her in the 2nd tour.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
You mean, besides the millions that Le Pen got from Russia?	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Wait until Le Pen talks about being anti austerity. I foresee many socialists behaving like Brexit labor voters and I forsee many young people going full Marxist (vive melenchon) and sitting this out.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
In my case I'm personally more afraid of it being Fillon vs Le Pen, because there Le Pen has a chance to win. Either way I'm voting! I'm making sure to set the alarm to wake up early.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Somewhat Confident
I mean aren't there many pretty obvious reasons that just boil down to different political values? These people are probably pro Eu and pro immigration, they see Le pen as a threat to these values and many others. It doesn't necessarily mean she is a bad person, but you shouldn't vote with someone you disagree with just because they work hard...	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Except Macrons party has no local election members and the Les Republicans get major cabinet positions. Remember Fillion was averaging 28% in the first round until scandal but he still ended up with 20% of the vote nearly. His 20% are worth much more than the Socialists 6% yesterday. Hollande is polling at 10% popularity while Macron has promised to roll back major economic reforms Hollande has made.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
>Fillion runoff No. I'm Catholic, and I don't even want Fillon's theocratic dictatorship.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
we are all hoping for Le Pen to take a valiant kick in the butt and for the Russian mob to come get her because of the 11 Million euro she loaned from them.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Proportionality	Not Confident
Not a Fillon supporter by any means but is this necessarily illegal?	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
In fairness, the Le Pens are literal fascists. The kind who keep Nazi uniforms in their closets so they can some day wear them publicly again.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Equality	Somewhat Confident
All parties are against terrorism. What Le Pen wants is to exploit fear and bigotry to gain power.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care,Authority	Confident
What's he done? I like a firm handshake and macron-trudeau slash-fic as much as the next guy but I wasn't aware he'd done much of substance yet.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Well, given the context - No, she expected millions, or atleast thousands of Fillon-fans to recognize it. Regardless - you only need someones permission to reproduce words if it is covered by copyright laws. Political speeches are generally not covered at all and thus require zero permission.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, But the aftereffects of the invasion (sectarian violence, suicide attacks, etc.) are still largely to blame on the coalition's handling of the situation and lack of planning for what to do after Saddam was removed from power. My point is that Neoliberal ideology and economic policy tends to veer towards these misadventures almost inevitably. Macron's campaign reminds me a lot of Blair and Obama during their first elections, Before people started to wise up to what their real priorities were. I'd suggest people be wary of that.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
> it's hard for a 3rd political party to gain any amount of traction needed to be a legitimate consideration for president It happened in France. Macron came out of nowhere, set up his own political party on a tight deadline and won the French presidency as an independent. It is unlikely to happen in the US because the American public is generally unwilling to vote for independents.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
But Maduro is an authoritarian who basically tries to operate the Venezuelan economy in a command-and-control style. Basically the opposite of Macron and neoliberalism. How can you hope to argue your point intelligently if you missed something so fundamental? Fascists are intrinsically right-wing.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
there's still a small chance she'll actually win. Biggest chance is macron. Le Pen has a big fanbase so in the first round she might win. But in the second round where only 2 people remain a lot of people will vote against her regardless of the opponent which makes it so that Macron is the clear favorite.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Good on Macron for standing firm. It's embarrassing to watch Trump keep trying that move on world leaders. It's not a dominance competition Trump, and if it was, Macron won.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
The wording of the title is just awful, looks like OP is saying that Macron is far right and endorsed by Trump.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Thin Morality	Confident
That's why Le Pen wants to get rid of the automatic citizenship status by birth law in France.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident
[Macron actually talked about it in his post-elected public speech](https://youtu.be/yqzclCq4qg0?t=3m6s) Roughly translated "I want to have a word for those who voted for Le Pen - today they expressed anger, disarry, sometimes convictions. And I respect them. I will do everything in the next 5 years so that they have no more reason to vote for the extreme"	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
I get your frustration. I don't like Le Pen or her politics, but how arrogant do you have to be in order to dismiss either her increase in power or the fundamental historical forces that have been pushing all countries towards more nationalism? So although I don't speak French either, I'm on your side on this. Anyone who thinks this is over has no historical perspective, no political perspective, no logical perspective, no cultural perspective, no European perspective, and no understanding of how people think.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care,Loyalty	Confident
It has tons of funny moments as well, the part where Macron wants a cordon bleu and is told that it's part of the kids' menu has reached memetic status.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I'm guessing her supporters will only see it as "authorities try to prevent Le Pen from showing the dangers of the Muslim extremist that are entering our country"	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident
The chance of Macron winning is bigger if he is pitted agains Le Pen rather than Melenchon or Fillion	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Europe needs an Emperor and Russia & UK need a lesson... you know what to do Macron.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Everytime Fillon shows up in the news I can't help but think mais où sont les neiges d'antan! to myself.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
It's a unifying presidential speech salutes Marine Le Pen and thanks his former mentor Francois Hollande	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Thank God from all the horrible shit I've heard and seen about Le Pen.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident
The whole French press, including the conservative papers (i.e. representing the people Marine Le Pen should have been courting yesterday evening if she wanted any chance of winning) have considered her performance atrocious.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
You should watch the one with Melenchon and Poutou absolutely destroying her.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
So? Being a social-democrat doesn't preclude being pro-european. BTW, I'm not pro Melenchon, just pointing out that you don't have to be a 3rd way Blairite to be a social democrat.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
This is what decades of neoliberal policies gets you. [Macron 2017 = Le Pen 2022](https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/04/france-elections-macron-le-pen-extreme-center-neoliberalism-fascism/)	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
To me it is someone with Reagan style economic policies. Lower taxes, especially for rich and businesses, no min wage, lower benefits or reduce them, privatise a lot of industries. Personally, Macron is not a true neoliberal. Neither is he a true social democrat. Fillon is a TRVE KVLT neoliberal. ;)	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Somewhat Confident
Do they have a programme yet or did they write something fast like Macron after Fillon got caught being corrupt?	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
How do you even say this about Macron, but somehow are fine with Melania being with Trump? The difference in age is exactly the same. If you truly cared, you wouldnt make it a personal attack to push your own agenda. You're literally worse than islamists lol.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Care,Equality	Confident
You must have missed when he bombed and enforced the red line against Assad, and condescendingly called Kim Jong Un a "smart cookie." I think you also intentionally left out his praise of Trudeau, and congratulations to Macron. But by all means, continue making shit up, you deluded nut.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident
One of the shooters ID'd as Alexandre Bissonnette. From his Facebook profile, he does not seem a Muslim convert at all, his likes include "Israeli Defense Forces, Marine Le Pen, Richard Dawkins, Donald J. Trump," and in a lot of his pictures, it's about Megadeth, drinking wine/beer, and partying.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Russia wants Le Pen to win because he doesnt want the pipeline to be built. It fucks up Russias most important geopolitical arangement. You go off on a tangent about how corrupt Russia is and you made no mention of the actual logic behind Russia/Putins interest in foreign elections.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
I'm happy to see the Nord painted yellow, and even happier to know that [Lille, a city I often visit, voted 78% for Macron](https://www.lefigaro.fr/elections/resultats/nord-59/lille-59350/). Merci, les ch'tis!	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I can't, when the liberal banker and his supports are actively and knowingly normalizing Le Pen, her ideas, and use her as a shield to avoid responsibility. That's a prime liberal value, responsibility. She is theirs, not mine. I'll cast a blank ballot.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Melenchon isn't a communist. Someone who oppose liberalism isn't a communist. Melenchon's a soc-dem.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Can someone explain to me how fillon still got so much support regardless of being involved in a scandal?	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty	Confident
Macron does seem to have the sense to not murder people for approval ratings	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Somewhat Confident
Seems like Syria is such between a rock and a hard place. One on hand: Macron is probably right that there's no legitimate successor, and the war on terror has taught us the dangers of the power vacuum after a dictator. On the other hand, leaving Assad in place is a humanitarian disaster, as his moves to consolidate his power will no doubt leave a trail of dead and tortured people. There could be a case for an Iraqi style occupation, but that will fuel the fires of extremists. I honestly have no clue what to do about the country.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
>Some were more optimistic than Ms Merkel. French President Emmanuel Macron praised Mr Trump's “capacity to listen” and said “I found someone who is open and willing to deal well with us.” >... >Mr Macron said he told Trump that is “indispensable for the reputation of the United States and the interest of the Americans themselves that the United States remain committed” to the Paris agreement. I like Macron already, he seems to know how to deal.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Le Pen is not nearly as close as Trump ever was and the voting system is different. Trump would have lost in our system even with the same score. Also, people don't really say that all Le Pen voters are racists anymore. It's increasingly perceived as a protest vote.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
So where's your source for this Russian hacking that happened against Macron? You people are so fucking gullible.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident
Too bad Trump killed the alt-right movement then. Le Pen and Wilders were only his first casualties. Ironically it looks like it's Trump's turn on the chopping block next.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
No, they haven't "stopped" anything. Macron won, and people who supported him have the right to be happy, but please, please, please don't now say "oh, well, that's it, we can get back to business as usual". The worst thing France could do right now is ignore the ever-growing concerns of those who voted for Le Pen. There are very serious problems that need to be addressed. Many voted for Le Pen out of desperation, not because they're bad people.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care,Authority	Confident
ISIS creates violent executions to promote their message, and Le Pen wants to show she's different from terrorists by publishing violent images that promote their message. Meh Fuck her, especially for using those peoples deaths to further her political agenda. She could've just mentioned it and people could find it on the internet not like the internet is censored in France.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
I think the whole taxation is theft is just bullshit. However it is immoral and more importantly inefficient to tax the richest at the level Melenchon proposes in my opinion.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Equality	Confident
Repostan from russian twitter: Macron: Actually we can work with Russia Putin: Hack him! Macron: wins Putin: ...	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Man, Macron is dragging his giant French balls all over Putin's forehead this trip. It's awesome.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Exit polls mean it's pretty much guaranteed. Le Pen has given her concession speech.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
He's being facetious for some reason. No idea what point he's trying to make. Obviously they're not going to try and assassinate Macron for this statement.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
It's the >:(( that was most Le Pen-like. I think >:(( basically sums up her political philosophy in a nut shell.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Actually pretty wild le Pen got as far as she did given those numbers.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
illegal immigration was already records low and stock market always goes up when a pro-business conservative is elected like macron. Everything else is a joke, no legislation, extreme nepotism, highly inefficient government, fighting against its own judiciary. This is just the start. Institutional corruption is no joke.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
I appreciate that, though I dont really care about the "points" themselves, just that people are disagreeing with me without saying why. Let me ask you this - do you think Merkel would have said/done anything like this if Le Pen won?	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
Sounds like you've dehumanized Le Pen voters. There's nothing to debate here. Go ahead and give yourself the last word.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
I don't disagree with you but I'm not sure what your point is. Hollande had the backing of parliament. When Mitterrand or Chirac were presidents with opponents in the government and the parliament they couldn't do anything.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
> politicians would kll their own carreers by saying anything positive about Assad. Fillon and MLP did, tho.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Heh, I'd rather vote Hollande again than one of the candidates from the shit show that the 2017 election is.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
The far-right usually incorporates left-wing ideas like a working class vanguard, Le Pen is leading a National Socialist party in the literal sense. That traditionally places you further right on the political spectrum than just being a run of the mill Conservative.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I was surprised to read an article that Le Pen / National Front is actually polling like 20% among France's gay community. I guess if you're the only candidate willing to speak about the problems of mass immigration and crime and terrorism, who else do you vote for?	Conservative	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Macron is more left of center, but he's not that left	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Apparently during the early campaigning Le Pen pushed hard for the gay vote, with a lot of homosexual campaign staff and such. The success came because the common consensus is that if you let enough refugees in from places that regularly stone homosexuals to death, France will be much more dangerous for them.	Conservative	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
I don't know much about Le Pen but correct me if I'm wrong; she's the American's alt-right of France? I'm seeing patterns of nationalism, immigration isolationism, autocratic behaviors from the extreme right in various countries around the world and it worries me to no end	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
The French don't have the same values with respect to the judicial system and elections. Even if what Fillon alleges is true (and I'd say it's very likely) that the French judicial system has intervened in the election to try and eat into support for Fillon and Le Pen, it would not be considered wrong. Ends justify the means in this case. That doesn't sit well with me as an American. Source: Have a French wife	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Thin Morality	Confident
Thanks. Le Pen is leading the first round polls by a couple of percent, but that's not too important in the French system. She will go through with one other candidate to the second round of voting, where everyone votes on the two candidates (likely to be Le Pen and Macron (centre left) or Hamon (socialist) at this stage). In the second round, all polls point to a 60-30 defeat for Le Pen by either candidate.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
What dude? I said it would be beneficial for the UK if Le Pen was elected. And assuming you're taking about Brexit, you are aware Brexit hasn't happened yet, right? Because unless you're from the future or something I have no idea how you know whether or not Brexit is going to be beneficial.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I don't disagree with that and that's not what I'm disputing, I'm disputing your claim that Le Pen voters were rural bumpkins with no exposure to Muslims, which is debunked by the fact that Le pen voters had MORE exposure to Muslims.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
So you don't want the candidate with the most votes to win then? This is a binary 2nd round: One candidate vs One candidate; whoever gets the most votes wins... The system was designed with extremism in mind, because France out of all places knows that democracy is very delicate and needs to be properly designed and thought out, otherwise we'll have a rerun of the darker times in history. If LePen/Macron fails to appeal to the majority of the French electorate then why should he/she be declared president at all?	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
> Does Macron have something similar that will unite voters to his cause? Could oppose Trump I guess	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
So if 'outsider' Macron does poorly, like Hollande, does that mean the dream is dead? Asking because I notice these projects never have a "failure state"	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Muslim attacks and labeling anyone who disagrees with Macron a traitor/ "real terrorist" sure will make quick work of the freedom left in France. Ramba is about to start of the mussies, so yea, there will be more attacks. It's all pointing in that direction of authoritarianism to be sure. What you think it is all going to be peace and brotherhood?	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty	Confident
the party is centre Right but Fillon was on the right end of the spectrum.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
> Le Pen added the rule would apply to French citizens who have dual nationality with any non-European countries—except Russia, which she called part of the “Europe of nations.” This has to be the most cringey statement of the year. Poor sicophant.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Almost everyone's liked more than Trump. There are a lot of ex Bernie supporters on this sub, I don't think there's one Trump supporter. The only active politicians this sub likes are Trudeau, Macron and Merkel, socialists like Corbyn and Bernie are mocked but tolerated and Trump, UKIP and Le Pen are universally hated.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I'll praise any female politician who stands for their own values and doesn't willingly oppress themselves for someone else's comfort. Great job, Marine Le Pen. Great job, Angela Merkel.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
People won't vote for him because he's "anti-system" they'll vote for him because they'll see him as a lesser evil than Le Pen or Fillon.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
"We must learn to accept Terrorism as a fact of life and live with it." - Macron im sure he does	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident

Oh rubbish. She got 23% in the first round and it was unlikely she would gain another 20%. From whom? The hard left voters? The Fillon supporters?

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If Melenchon somehow overtakes him for second place I'm going to start shoving populists in the streets. Fillion needs to drop out and endorse Macron.

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Stranger things have happened, everybody seems to be uniting against Le Pen kind of like what happened in America, hmm, I think the French have a word for this, deja vu?

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We first have to work on making sex a less of a taboo in society, before tackling the religious aspects. Sex should be as normal for adults as any other thing like peeing or shitting. We should educate young children (without confusing them) how the act of sex works when they're much older. Just a plain, "male penis get hard because blah blah, female vagina gets 'wet' because blah - at this point you could insert the penis into the vagina".

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Not to mention the Kremlin's current active cyberattacks and propaganda warfare against Macron and others. They are being funded by a state actor assaulting French democracy directly, including on their behalf. I want to know how they reconcile this with their nationalism, which implies a deep loyalty to France. Geert Wilders had the same problem, with much of his funds coming from Israel and Breitbart's Horowitz (who was acting as a real-life anonymizing proxy for foreign funding of Wilders).

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Do you think that in a country where the media paint LePen as the savior of France, and Macron as some establishment prick, that the results would have been the same? Because the reverse scenario just happened. You can't ignore the influence of media, that's just nonsense.

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I think you're on to something, but I also think the 2008 financial crisis and its aftereffects played a role. Even if Corbyn loses, the fact that he made it this far would seem pretty jarring to someone from, say, 2003. Same goes for rw nationalists like Wilders and Le Pen- sure they (thankfully) didn't *win*, but their parties' respective vote shares have grown significantly. I don't think neoliberalism's necessarily doomed or anything, but I also worry that it's revitalization isn't a *fait accompli*.

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Remember early in the day, when it felt like the post-Macron fervor was dying down?

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Jeez. The FSB really should have spent more time researching French culture before launching this propaganda campaign. Does Putin really think a sex scandal could bring down a French politician Edit: on the other hand, this would be pretty hot fanfic. Maybe Putin and the alt-right are just secretly gay for Macron?

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Macron also was projected to get around 55-60% against the left in the second round.

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Economically speaking, Le Pen is nowhere near a strong right wing. She might grab the votes of the more socially conservative, but Macron is nearest to Fillon on economics

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It's comments like that which cause people to vote for people like Le Pen. Casual Islamophobia impacts reader's mindsets.

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Marine le Pen's ambitions : "National Priority to the French", aka, national priority to white Christian people. If you don't consider that's true, you've already been radicalized to far right politics.

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Putin is the mastermind behind Trump, Brexit, France, Geert Wilders, and every other nationalist who will somehow secure hidden Russian interests. Did I mention Le Pen has a conversation with Putin? They definitely discussed their nationalist new world order. Totally.

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for a moment i thought that meant Macron had 62% and Le Pen 64% please dont fire me soros

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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ MACRON TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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Doesn't seem like it's hurt them much at all; it's the political death of Hamon more than anything.

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true, but except for Fillon (and even him would have had a better chance of winning than her) any of the first 5 candidate would have beaten her in the 2nd tour.

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You mean, besides the millions that Le Pen got from Russia?

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Wait until Le Pen talks about being anti austerity. I foresee many socialists behaving like Brexit labor voters and I forsee many young people going full Marxist (vive melenchon) and sitting this out.

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In my case I'm personally more afraid of it being Fillon vs Le Pen, because there Le Pen has a chance to win. Either way I'm voting! I'm making sure to set the alarm to wake up early.

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I mean aren't there many pretty obvious reasons that just boil down to different political values? These people are probably pro Eu and pro immigration, they see Le pen as a threat to these values and many others. It doesn't necessarily mean she is a bad person, but you shouldn't vote with someone you disagree with just because they work hard...

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Except Macrons party has no local election members and the Les Republicans get major cabinet positions. Remember Fillion was averaging 28% in the first round until scandal but he still ended up with 20% of the vote nearly. His 20% are worth much more than the Socialists 6% yesterday. Hollande is polling at 10% popularity while Macron has promised to roll back major economic reforms Hollande has made.

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>Fillion runoff No. I'm Catholic, and I don't even want Fillon's theocratic dictatorship.

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we are all hoping for Le Pen to take a valiant kick in the butt and for the Russian mob to come get her because of the 11 Million euro she loaned from them.

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Not a Fillon supporter by any means but is this necessarily illegal?

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In fairness, the Le Pens are literal fascists. The kind who keep Nazi uniforms in their closets so they can some day wear them publicly again.

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All parties are against terrorism. What Le Pen wants is to exploit fear and bigotry to gain power.

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What's he done? I like a firm handshake and macron-trudeau slash-fic as much as the next guy but I wasn't aware he'd done much of substance yet.

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Well, given the context - No, she expected millions, or atleast thousands of Fillon-fans to recognize it. Regardless - you only need someones permission to reproduce words if it is covered by copyright laws. Political speeches are generally not covered at all and thus require zero permission.

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I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, But the aftereffects of the invasion (sectarian violence, suicide attacks, etc.) are still largely to blame on the coalition's handling of the situation and lack of planning for what to do after Saddam was removed from power. My point is that Neoliberal ideology and economic policy tends to veer towards these misadventures almost inevitably. Macron's campaign reminds me a lot of Blair and Obama during their first elections, Before people started to wise up to what their real priorities were. I'd suggest people be wary of that.

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> it's hard for a 3rd political party to gain any amount of traction needed to be a legitimate consideration for president It happened in France. Macron came out of nowhere, set up his own political party on a tight deadline and won the French presidency as an independent. It is unlikely to happen in the US because the American public is generally unwilling to vote for independents.

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But Maduro is an authoritarian who basically tries to operate the Venezuelan economy in a command-and-control style. Basically the opposite of Macron and neoliberalism. How can you hope to argue your point intelligently if you missed something so fundamental? Fascists are intrinsically right-wing.

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there's still a small chance she'll actually win. Biggest chance is macron. Le Pen has a big fanbase so in the first round she might win. But in the second round where only 2 people remain a lot of people will vote against her regardless of the opponent which makes it so that Macron is the clear favorite.

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Good on Macron for standing firm. It's embarrassing to watch Trump keep trying that move on world leaders. It's not a dominance competition Trump, and if it was, Macron won.

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The wording of the title is just awful, looks like OP is saying that Macron is far right and endorsed by Trump.

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That's why Le Pen wants to get rid of the automatic citizenship status by birth law in France.

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[Macron actually talked about it in his post-elected public speech](https://youtu.be/yqzclCq4qg0?t=3m6s) Roughly translated "*I want to have a word for those who voted for Le Pen - today they expressed anger, disarry, sometimes convictions. And I respect them. I will do everything in the next 5 years so that they have no more reason to vote for the extreme*"

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I get your frustration. I don't like Le Pen or her politics, but how arrogant do you have to be in order to dismiss either her increase in power or the fundamental historical forces that have been pushing all countries towards more nationalism? So although I don't speak French either, I'm on your side on this. Anyone who thinks this is over has no historical perspective, no political perspective, no logical perspective, no cultural perspective, no European perspective, and no understanding of how people think.

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It has tons of funny moments as well, the part where Macron wants a cordon bleu and is told that it's part of the kids' menu has reached memetic status.

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I'm guessing her supporters will only see it as "authorities try to prevent Le Pen from showing the dangers of the Muslim extremist that are entering our country"

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The chance of Macron winning is bigger if he is pitted agains Le Pen rather than Melenchon or Fillion

neoliberal

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Europe needs an Emperor and Russia & UK need a lesson... you know what to do Macron.

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Everytime Fillon shows up in the news I can't help but think *mais où sont les neiges d'antan!* to myself.

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It's a unifying presidential speech salutes Marine Le Pen and thanks his former mentor Francois Hollande

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Thank God from all the horrible shit I've heard and seen about Le Pen.

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The whole French press, including the conservative papers (i.e. representing the people Marine Le Pen should have been courting yesterday evening if she wanted any chance of winning) have considered her performance atrocious.

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You should watch the one with Melenchon and Poutou absolutely destroying her.

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So? Being a social-democrat doesn't preclude being pro-european. BTW, I'm not pro Melenchon, just pointing out that you don't have to be a 3rd way Blairite to be a social democrat.

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This is what decades of neoliberal policies gets you. [Macron 2017 = Le Pen 2022](https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/04/france-elections-macron-le-pen-extreme-center-neoliberalism-fascism/)

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To me it is someone with Reagan style economic policies. Lower taxes, especially for rich and businesses, no min wage, lower benefits or reduce them, privatise a lot of industries. Personally, Macron is not a true neoliberal. Neither is he a true social democrat. Fillon is a TRVE KVLT neoliberal. ;)

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Do they have a programme yet or did they write something fast like Macron after Fillon got caught being corrupt?

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How do you even say this about Macron, but somehow are fine with Melania being with Trump? The difference in age is exactly the same. If you truly cared, you wouldnt make it a personal attack to push your own agenda. You're literally worse than islamists lol.

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You must have missed when he bombed and enforced the red line against Assad, and condescendingly called Kim Jong Un a "smart cookie." I think you also intentionally left out his praise of Trudeau, and congratulations to Macron. But by all means, continue making shit up, you deluded nut.

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One of the shooters ID'd as Alexandre Bissonnette. From his Facebook profile, he does not seem a Muslim convert at all, his likes include "Israeli Defense Forces, Marine Le Pen, Richard Dawkins, Donald J. Trump," and in a lot of his pictures, it's about Megadeth, drinking wine/beer, and partying.

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Russia wants Le Pen to win because he doesnt want the pipeline to be built. It fucks up Russias most important geopolitical arangement. You go off on a tangent about how corrupt Russia is and you made no mention of the actual logic behind Russia/Putins interest in foreign elections.

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I'm happy to see the Nord painted yellow, and even happier to know that [Lille, a city I often visit, voted 78% for Macron](https://www.lefigaro.fr/elections/resultats/nord-59/lille-59350/). *Merci, les ch'tis!*

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I can't, when the liberal banker and his supports are actively and knowingly normalizing Le Pen, her ideas, and use her as a shield to avoid responsibility. That's a prime liberal value, responsibility. She is theirs, not mine. I'll cast a blank ballot.

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Melenchon isn't a communist. Someone who oppose liberalism isn't a communist. Melenchon's a soc-dem.

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Can someone explain to me how fillon still got so much support regardless of being involved in a scandal?

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Macron does seem to have the sense to not murder people for approval ratings

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Seems like Syria is such between a rock and a hard place. One on hand: Macron is probably right that there's no legitimate successor, and the war on terror has taught us the dangers of the power vacuum after a dictator. On the other hand, leaving Assad in place is a humanitarian disaster, as his moves to consolidate his power will no doubt leave a trail of dead and tortured people. There could be a case for an Iraqi style occupation, but that will fuel the fires of extremists. I honestly have no clue what to do about the country.

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>Some were more optimistic than Ms Merkel. French President Emmanuel Macron praised Mr Trump's “capacity to listen” and said “I found someone who is open and willing to deal well with us.” >... >Mr Macron said he told Trump that is “indispensable for the reputation of the United States and the interest of the Americans themselves that the United States remain committed” to the Paris agreement. I like Macron already, he seems to know how to deal.

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Le Pen is not nearly as close as Trump ever was and the voting system is different. Trump would have lost in our system even with the same score. Also, people don't really say that all Le Pen voters are racists anymore. It's increasingly perceived as a protest vote.

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So where's your source for this Russian hacking that happened against Macron? You people are so fucking gullible.

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Too bad Trump killed the alt-right movement then. Le Pen and Wilders were only his first casualties. Ironically it looks like it's Trump's turn on the chopping block next.

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No, they haven't "stopped" anything. Macron won, and people who supported him have the right to be happy, but please, please, *please* don't now say "oh, well, that's it, we can get back to business as usual". The worst thing France could do right now is ignore the ever-growing concerns of those who voted for Le Pen. There are very serious problems that need to be addressed. Many voted for Le Pen out of desperation, not because they're bad people.

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ISIS creates violent executions to promote their message, and Le Pen wants to show she's different from terrorists by publishing violent images that promote their message. Meh Fuck her, especially for using those peoples deaths to further her political agenda. She could've just mentioned it and people could find it on the internet not like the internet is censored in France.

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I think the whole taxation is theft is just bullshit. However it is immoral and more importantly inefficient to tax the richest at the level Melenchon proposes in my opinion.

europe

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Repostan from russian twitter: Macron: Actually we can work with Russia Putin: Hack him! Macron: *wins* Putin: ...

neoliberal

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Man, Macron is dragging his giant French balls all over Putin's forehead this trip. It's awesome.

neoliberal

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Exit polls mean it's pretty much guaranteed. Le Pen has given her concession speech.

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He's being facetious for some reason. No idea what point he's trying to make. Obviously they're not going to try and assassinate Macron for this statement.

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It's the >:(( that was most Le Pen-like. I think >:(( basically sums up her political philosophy in a nut shell.

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Actually pretty wild le Pen got as far as she did given those numbers.

neoliberal

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illegal immigration was already records low and stock market always goes up when a pro-business conservative is elected like macron. Everything else is a joke, no legislation, extreme nepotism, highly inefficient government, fighting against its own judiciary. This is just the start. Institutional corruption is no joke.

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I appreciate that, though I dont really care about the "points" themselves, just that people are disagreeing with me without saying why. Let me ask you this - do you think Merkel would have said/done anything like this if Le Pen won?

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Sounds like you've dehumanized Le Pen voters. There's nothing to debate here. Go ahead and give yourself the last word.

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I don't disagree with you but I'm not sure what your point is. Hollande had the backing of parliament. When Mitterrand or Chirac were presidents with opponents in the government and the parliament they couldn't do anything.

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> politicians would kll their own carreers by saying anything positive about Assad. Fillon and MLP did, tho.

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Heh, I'd rather vote Hollande again than one of the candidates from the shit show that the 2017 election is.

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The far-right usually incorporates left-wing ideas like a working class vanguard, Le Pen is leading a National Socialist party in the literal sense. That traditionally places you further right on the political spectrum than just being a run of the mill Conservative.

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I was surprised to read an article that Le Pen / National Front is actually polling like 20% among France's gay community. I guess if you're the only candidate willing to speak about the problems of mass immigration and crime and terrorism, who else do you vote for?

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Macron is more left of center, but he's not *that* left

neoliberal

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Apparently during the early campaigning Le Pen pushed hard for the gay vote, with a lot of homosexual campaign staff and such. The success came because the common consensus is that if you let enough refugees in from places that regularly stone homosexuals to death, France will be much more dangerous for them.

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I don't know much about Le Pen but correct me if I'm wrong; she's the American's alt-right of France? I'm seeing patterns of nationalism, immigration isolationism, autocratic behaviors from the extreme right in various countries around the world and it worries me to no end

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The French don't have the same values with respect to the judicial system and elections. Even if what Fillon alleges is true (and I'd say it's very likely) that the French judicial system has intervened in the election to try and eat into support for Fillon and Le Pen, it would not be considered wrong. Ends justify the means in this case. That doesn't sit well with me as an American. Source: Have a French wife

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Thanks. Le Pen is leading the first round polls by a couple of percent, but that's not too important in the French system. She will go through with one other candidate to the second round of voting, where everyone votes on the two candidates (likely to be Le Pen and Macron (centre left) or Hamon (socialist) at this stage). In the second round, all polls point to a 60-30 defeat for Le Pen by either candidate.

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What dude? I said it would be beneficial for the UK if Le Pen was elected. And assuming you're taking about Brexit, you are aware Brexit hasn't happened yet, right? Because unless you're from the future or something I have no idea how you know whether or not Brexit is going to be beneficial.

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I don't disagree with that and that's not what I'm disputing, I'm disputing your claim that Le Pen voters were rural bumpkins with no exposure to Muslims, which is debunked by the fact that Le pen voters had MORE exposure to Muslims.

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So you *don't* want the candidate with the most votes to win then? This is a binary 2nd round: One candidate vs One candidate; whoever gets the most votes wins... The system was designed with extremism in mind, because France out of all places knows that democracy is very delicate and needs to be properly designed and thought out, otherwise we'll have a rerun of the darker times in history. If LePen/Macron fails to appeal to the majority of the French electorate then why should he/she be declared president at all?

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> Does Macron have something similar that will unite voters to his cause? Could oppose Trump I guess

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So if 'outsider' Macron does poorly, like Hollande, does that mean the dream is dead? Asking because I notice these projects never have a "failure state"

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Muslim attacks and labeling anyone who disagrees with Macron a traitor/ "real terrorist" sure will make quick work of the freedom left in France. Ramba is about to start of the mussies, so yea, there will be more attacks. It's all pointing in that direction of authoritarianism to be sure. What you think it is all going to be peace and brotherhood?

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the party is centre Right but Fillon was on the right end of the spectrum.

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> Le Pen added the rule would apply to French citizens who have dual nationality with any non-European countries—except Russia, which she called part of the “Europe of nations.” This has to be the most cringey statement of the year. Poor sicophant.

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Almost everyone's liked more than Trump. There are a lot of ex Bernie supporters on this sub, I don't think there's one Trump supporter. The only active politicians this sub likes are Trudeau, Macron and Merkel, socialists like Corbyn and Bernie are mocked but tolerated and Trump, UKIP and Le Pen are universally hated.

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I'll praise any female politician who stands for their own values and doesn't willingly oppress themselves for someone else's comfort. Great job, Marine Le Pen. Great job, Angela Merkel.

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People won't vote for him because he's "anti-system" they'll vote for him because they'll see him as a lesser evil than Le Pen or Fillon.

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"We must learn to accept Terrorism as a fact of life and live with it." - Macron im sure he does

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