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> see no contradiction in being financed by foreign white people Exactly, they're gullible. Those parties don't realise that they're being manipulated for geopolitical interests way more important than identity politics. Or maybe they do, which makes it even worse. Russia isn't supporting/funding Le Pen because of her immigration stance, but because of her anti-EU policies. Their goal is to weaken potential threats, they don't care about european demographics.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care,Loyalty,Authority	Confident
All nations with clout meddle in the elections of other nations. I see no outrage at Obama endorsing Macron, no is there any fury over the numerous foreign endorsements in media and financial support for Hillary's failed campaign. I would suggest that such interference is a fact of life, and it is up to the citizens of each nation to make the best decisions they can. That said, what would you suggest be done with the Russians? Relations are already strained: should we isolate them completely from contact?	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
So largest numbers in Paris and Lyon where Le Pen got 5% and 14%. Very interesting.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
> Also both candidates are very bad for the EU and Europe in general. Melenchon wants to reform the EU to make it less liberal and more democratic. Isn't that exactly what it needs? Or are you saying the EU is perfect? Plus such reforms would significantly reduce the impact of far-right anti-EU parties.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Thin Morality	Confident
Um, no. My point was that the slander campaign was ineffective. There was definitely no lack of trying though. What have they come up with, unfounded claims about him being gay? Don't make me laugh. Besides, "the media" and "the government" would have loved Fillon if he wasn't damaged goods, he would have destroyed Le Pen in the first round.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care,Authority	Somewhat Confident
Yeah, the incredibly hateful and violent le pen supporters are going to do what they do best and be a shit stain on humanity.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
I mean it's no secret that most trump supporters support Le pen. Whether or not they are bots though remains to be proven.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty	Confident
Huh. Exception to the rule? I can't imagine Schulz, Asscher or Hamon do that kind of thing.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
What would have to happen for a big enough swing in Le Pen's favour?	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
>LOL at calling Le Pen far right. You people are morons. I guess anyone who cares about their country and doesn't bow down to globalists and Islam are "far right" now. Say it in French.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Care,Loyalty	Confident
Really worried about all those Brownshirts Le Pen has /s	Conservative	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident
Honestly I thought he would have just shut up. It's not surprising he's not supporting Hamon. Not only he has very different ideas, but when he was prime minister Hamon and other PS MP did a motion of censure against Valls' government, despite being from the same party. Being asked to be loyal to this guy is a bit of a joke.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty,Authority	Confident
french population is 68 millions, 10.6 millions voted for Le Pen in the second round, so approximately 15%.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Blame Macron for being such a shifty operative who only knows how to speak in platitudes. Either he has really bad advisors or he is not listening to good advice. He doesn't engender any confidence in his ability to govern. If he wins, we will most probably get more of the erratic policymaking and governing we saw from Hollande. There is a reason why calling him Emmanuel Hollande has been such an effective attack.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Are all these Le Pens connected to Petain government supporters? This explain their love to suck dicks of leaders of other countries.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty,Authority	Confident
Do far-righters go to some course that teaches them terms like neo-liberalism or Rothschild or libtard or Swedistan. You all use the same ten words with the only tactic you have -trying to demonise the opposition because nobody in their right mind would support Le Pen or Trump if they looked at them subjectively.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
It's not a genuine change of views. Merkel only moves to the left when politically convenient. She could have legalised it years ago if she cared enough to stand against parts of the CDU/CSU coalition. Germany still has ultra-harsh abortion laws, supports austerity measures for nationalist reasons ("stop those greedy Greeks from stealing our money again"), has a huge surplus for no good reason and Merkel herself denounced multiculturalism and supported Burka bans. As a stray social democrat I can see why people love Macron and Trudeau but Merkel is a neoliberal false idol.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Equality,Loyalty,Authority	Confident
Left-libertarians are anarchists, libertarian marxists, communalists etc. They wouldn't vote (if they vote at all) for a neoliberal like Macron if they any other option aside from Le Pen	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I guess the question really is "if Le Pen does not make second round, who will win?"	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Macron intends to transcend the left right divide by instituting right wing polices. e-chuckle The corporate media is such BS.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident
Yes, being in your own circle jerk is sooooo healthy for you. I don't like le pen either, but that doesn't mean i'm a dickwad about it.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Not Confident
Apparently he and her daughter were in the same class when macron met his wife/her mom.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
95% chance of Brexit not happening, 95% chance of Clinton winning the election, 95% chance of Le Pen not making it through the last round of elections. I wouldn't feel so safe with 95% odds of major geopolitical changes not happening in 2017.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident
Jean-Marie Le Pen, a homophobe. Wow, I'm *S H O C K E D*!	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Not Confident
Dang you sure proved that Le Pen was a fascist! Good one!	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Thin Morality	Confident
But if you don't care about Putin and don't want to ban gay marriage but do want radical auserity, Macron is your guy. Yay! /s	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
People like you make Trump and Le Pen voters prefer not to disclose they're voting Trumb because instead of talking others will just berate and insult them. Ironically people like you are part of the reason these right wing politicians are winning.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
They are, I was just taking the piss. They're hacks, they're whatever they need to be to exploit the anger. MLP is going to go full socialist if she meets Fillon in the second round.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
>Transcending the dogmatic ideologies of the left and right, he advocates pragmatic policies i just vomited in my mouth, this ideology is too pure I like Macron, but this ridiculous centrist ideology of 'we're the only _pragmatists_because we base all of our policies arbitrarily between 'The Left' and 'The Right' and pretend like both have equal merits' is really one of the worst political developments in the West. Also, it's 'En Marche'.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Purity,Authority	Confident
EU's future still doesn't look bright imo. There's several far-right govs in eastern europe, a war in the Ukraine, Brexit, Russia, etc. It's really all up to how well macron does and if merkel can pull out another victory from her parliamentary hat. Franco-German alliance is holding it together by a string.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty,Authority	Confident
Depends on your economic stance. Mélenchon is socialist and internationalist, so expect redistribution and regulation. Le Pen is liberal-nationalist, so expect heavy regulation toward the outside (if she's true to her word, but I'm skeptic) and deregulation inside. Pick your preference.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Somewhat Confident
What's your point? What do you understand by repercussion? Isn't Le Pen in France a direct consequence of Islamist terrorism? Wasn't Brexit? Frauke Petry in Germany? Geert Wilders in your country? Jobbik in Hungary? Jimmie Akesson in Sweden? We are indeed letting these terrorists have repercussions in Europe -- "only" historical repercussions. You can argue it was a mix of many reasons but we all know fear and hate towards islamist terrorism and immigration is what finally triggered the average European and all these right wing populist movements in the whole of Europe.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
We do, but right now we're talking about chechnya, because Macron and Putin met a week ago and Putin said he would check on LGBT issues in Chechnya regularly. SA isn't part of Russia.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Amusingly, the correspondent for Sky News reporting on Macron's victory rally at the Louvre is a spitting image of Le Pen.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Go whole hog, Melenchon - just kill the rich if they refuse to pay.	Conservative	French politics	annotator01	Care,Authority	Somewhat Confident
Remember Clinton and Trumps debates and how she absolutely ruined him? Most of the supper for FN/Trump aren't going to care about racism and intolerance, to them it's a boon. Macron doesn't seem too bad compared to what could be. If you look at the world leaders all around us, it can get way worse	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care,Authority	Confident
Thank god, a Le pen victory would have been disastrous to many people and countries, not just Muslims or France.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
>FINALLY - CONCLUSIVE PROOF MACRON KNOWS ABOUT US! > >http://i.imgur.com/PbPOu38.png Wait, is that for real? If so, what does it say, can anyone translate?	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Macron is quite charismatic He did not "go where the win blows", he built his movement from the ground up into what it is today (from only a year ago) And Macron has not been in the shadows, in fact the direct opposite of that. Since he left government and founded En Marche! He's been out there 24/7	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Holy hell. Everything on their page is above 3000 upvote. And what's with the "Take my energy Le pen" nonsense?	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I want to thank Soros for paying everyone that voted for Macron.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Proportionality	Somewhat Confident
Ey Donny and Le Pen: Please continue to tell us how cool Putin is and how we don't need no silly NATO?	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Somewhat Confident
More food for your fan fiction : I'm pretty sure that one point Trudeau says "si tu veux", using the "tu" and not the polite "vous" when addressing Macron, which can denote a proximity, especially in this quasi formal setting.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Mélenchon stands no chance, and Hamon is not too bad. The worst PS candidate for Macron is Valls. It's possible the PS candidate might drop out in favour of Macron though, if that happens he has quite a good shot at getting to the second round.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Thin Morality	Confident
Yes there is a leftist narrative, yes there is a right narrative - the media are corporate entities with interests. But that is getting off topic - Not everyone you disagree with is from the "far right" - Le Pen is absolutely a moderate civic nationalist - fearmongering doesn't help anything.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care,Authority	Confident
So.. what do I do if I do not support no-nation-states-globalism, but don't support Marine Le Pens harsh ideas? What do I do if I support the EU, even a federated one, but believe that multiculturalism in European states needs to be toned down a bit so that existing minorities can assimilate better into local communities?	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
> Can't figure out why people laugh at them and how they lost the election What are you talking about? Macron won.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
That's completely different. Being an African American is not a political ideology. More, even if a Muslim runs for the presidency, does mean he will follow a radical Islam ideology. You have Fillon and Sadiq Khan. Two politicians, one Christian and the other Muslim. Yet one is more conservative than the Pope. The other voted for same sex marriage in UK. It's very unlikely that France will get a radical or conservative Islamic candidate.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
I know right? Where do the Le Pen supporters even find all these accounts to rent?	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
>So it's only a debate about what your definition of the words involved to describe facts is (French police and Vichy gov' was involved, but is it representative and responsible of "French acts") Are you sure that Le Pen isn't actually trying to downplay the extent of French collaboration? Genuine question, as I don't know the exact context of her comments.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
All are vying for power. May or Macron's actions do not negate those of Putin, Trump, or Orban. And their actions aren't all similar. For example: While killing of journalists or opposition members is more common than it should be in Russia, we don't see that happening in the UK or France.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Somewhat Confident
Macron seems determined (in a good way) to let everyone know that France is no pushover. this might be the resurgence of a couple of European nations' influence after a half century of them being emasculated in the west. unfortunately that might come at the price of the death of American intellectualism and foreign policy, but, them's the breaks.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Hey, apology accepted. My sincere condolences. Resist! We'll help you where we can by electing reasonable politicians like Merkel and Macron who have the courage to say no to Dumpy.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care,Authority	Confident
Seems like Merkel and CDU might [not be as collaborative](http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/15/frances-europhile-in-chief-is-about-to-meet-a-berlin-wall/?utm_content=bufferd281a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer) with Macron's France as we expected.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Huge Bombshell News: Le Pen knows that Russia exists, COULD SHE BE THE NEXT HITLER?! IS THIS THE END OF HER CAMPAIGN? NATE SILVER PREDICTS 0.8% CHANCE OF HER VICTORY	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Somewhat Confident
And cue 'Marine le Pen' turns out to be a hardcore lesbian data-leak in 5..4..3..2..	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
influence, corruption you understand what corruption is, right? if le pen wins, she is supposed to represent what is best for the french people. but she may make decisions that benefit russia or some rich russian assholes instead of the french if they bankroll her it happens everywhere in terms of rich assholes in a country corrupting the govt to serve them instead of the common person in that country but foreign corruption has the extra problem of treasonous activity	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty,Authority	Confident
He does love older women. I reckon Merkel and Macron's wife are about the same age?	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
They're all laughing, like they had been waiting for it and THERE IT US that bozo's weird handshake, ahaha. Then Macron gives him a condescending pat at the end. If Trump was any regular joe he'd be burning with shame after pulling that stunt. He's probably feeling proud that his handshake is famous.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Pretty sure if Macron was like Pinochet they'd support him. After all undemocratic right-wing authoritarians with no respect for human lives are their favorite kind of politician.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care,Loyalty,Authority	Confident
Well what I said was fascist (Le Pen, in this context) fails, not fascism fails.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Wrong or liable? She committed fraud and only have to return the funds! That's criminal, it's what's sunk Fillon's campaign. I do not think this is conflating separate issues. This is the same person who has such a contempt for the EU that she stole taxpayer money, yet twisted her position in it for her benefit. It's hypocrisy, how did she do nothing wrong?	europe	French politics	annotator01	Equality,Authority	Confident
༼つ ◕_◕ ༽つ MACRON PRENEZ MON ÉNERGIE ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
So far Trump is getting glowing reviews from Nigel Farage, Marine Le Pen, Vladimir Putin, Erdogan, Duterte and pretty much every other wannabe despot in power. Maybe North Korea will get along with him too.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Somewhat Confident
Duh. Trump obviously isn't a conservative. Source: all Republicans during the primary, Trump himself. Most Republicans are conservative. Most Republicans differ with Le Pen & Trump on: protectionism, nativism, expanding the welfare state just because it's popular. Basically, the entire focuses of their platforms.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Well considering the people who actually DID leave did so because of rising anti-Semitism I'd say they would have voted Le Pen.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Equality	Confident
Sounds like a tactic the Russians used profusely while trying to take down Macron	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
> You think people who vote Mélenchon are educated? You're defending a far-left populist I'm not defending him I'm saying my opinion. I know personally some Le Pen voters and they are all uneducated. Doesn't mean at all they are stupid they are much smarter on some ways than some far leftist I know. FN program has no coherence. > He's probably the worst liar of all candidates. Prove it or ?	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Not Confident
keeping the social net and cutting immigration is not wrong,it's everything else that Le Pen brings to the table that I find deeply troubling. I also think it is deeply hypocritical to call yourself a patriotic nationalist if you are bribed by Moscow.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
To be fair, I was under the impression this scandal had some evidence behind it and that was why it's been continued so intensively. If Fillons accusation is right all he is doing is pointing out a clear agenda at work, but it isn't gonna make him less guilty.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Equality	Confident
i hope every fascist nazi sympathizer that voted for Le Pen feels miserable as fuck, i want you all to feel horrible that you lost so pathetically, losers	europe	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
Hi all. I found this subreddit after the Macron victory (fuck yeah, it's a victory) and I'm so damn happy. After binge-reading the sidebar links, I'm completely convinced that I found a descriptor to my political and economic philosophy. I am among my people.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty	Confident
It's completely natural for Macron to be somewhat hostile to Putin, considering Russia's open support for his opponent during the elections.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty	Confident
The EU is scared. They cannot afford a Le Pen victory because they would lose France. This, coupled with the loss of the UK, would kill the EU.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
omg the Le Pen family has metastasized* all over France's politics. Do they actually represent anyone, or do they just feed off their sheer cuntness like the westboro baptist church? \* wrote "methastasized". was wrong. oddly enough this didn't get autocorrected :(	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
It would if it was the same person and the same leadership, but it's not. Marine Le Pen is not her father, she specifically called her father hateful and bashed his anti-Semitic views and expelled him from the party. Your argument literally amounts to "This person is bad and thinks this because this completely different person is bad and thinks this."	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Equality	Confident
I wonder if anyone of them will make an election campaign like hollande, promising to "end the german rule" etc., visit berlin after the election and everything will go on as it did previously.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Yeah but Melenchon's to the left so once his base grows older they'll moderate toward Macronesque policies, like generations before them. Anyway, if you win by 33pts you're not a divided nation, you're winning by a margin that makes Reagan-Mondale look small. That's not a temporary setback, that's an absolute crapping on. The French don't like the far right. If they did, she'd be President. If she would ever be president, she would've gotten more than 35%.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
> He also warned François Fillon, the candidate for the right-wing Républicains party, that “brutalising society must be avoided.” > “Democracy, freedom, social rights, Europe and even peace, all of that becomes vulnerable, reversible,” added Hollande. so the title is about the right wing candidate, not you know, muslim extremism which was my first assumption and the reason I read the article.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Let's be honest. Trump is 70 and Melania is 47. Macron is totally correct.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Some Turks also tweeted insult to french president François Hollande thinking they tweeted to Holland the country. some people are dumb as fuck.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
They are still Vichy apologists regardless of what Le Pen has done for PR.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
In the same vein however, Le Pen should not be targeted merely because the EU does not like her. The immunity is in place so Democracy can function. Simply taking it away from people you don't like defeats its purpose. The whole issue is blown slightly out of proportion.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Proportionality	Confident
ahahahahahahahahahah. How hypocrite must you be to see no difference between what Mélenchon says and what Macron says. Mélenchon's plan was to unilaterally [stop respecting treaties](https://laec.fr/section/49/prendre-les-mesures-immediates-et-unilaterales-de-sauvegarde-des-interets-de-la-nation-et-d-application-de-notre-projet) as soon as soon as he would be elected. Then "negotiate" a complete refoundation of the EU while threatening to leave the EU. Among his demands: * Devaluate the euro to parity with dollars * end the ECB independence * stop free trade * no more liberalization of energy, telecom, ... * etc. https://laec.fr/section/51/plan-a-proposer-une-refondation-democratique-sociale-et-ecologique-des-traites-europeens-par-la-renegociation	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
man Merkel, Obama and Macron are all globalist. You literally know nothing other than what the news spews in your face. Educate yourself. For a 40 year old it's pathetic. Open your mind, think for yourself. REEEE conspiracy you say? yea, see how many hours you've actually put into looking it up. Please just look into it instead of bashing others.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Care	Confident
In contrast to everybody else, who obviously likes war and social regression? Like do you honestly believe this? This kind of rhetoric is cultish in and of itself. Melenchon's NATO and EU positions, his hard income cap, his complete reversal of nuclear energy (it's like 70% of the French energy mix), his love for Fidel and Chavez and so on are all extremist positions. They go far beyond what any Social Democrat would do.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
The socialist party is socialist in name only. Or at least it's extremely divided on the question. Hamon, who leans to the left, was chosen in the primary only to be abandoned by many other party leaders who endorsed Macron instead. Mélenchon also used to be part of the 'PS' until 2008 but left.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Loyalty	Confident
And quite a few more than from Macron. Great observation, hadn't noticed it.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
dude totally for macron but marrying your high school teacher is actually really weird	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Ironically, it seems Macron doesn't seem to like the song. Instead, he used a german song as victory-music.	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Yes, I just wanted to highlight that compared to blanks and abstention her score wasn't as high as some people thought. If you were to rank candidates : Macron > Blank + abstention > Le Pen	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
You are delusional, Mélenchon will never outperform Macron and Fillon, there is just no way	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Why was western France such a Macron stronghold? In the first round he won the entire coast as well as most inland departments.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
No lw right wingers along twitter are calling all feminists in France hypocrites for not automatically voting Le pen. They're hilarious.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
How are Trump and Le Pen horrible? I bring my conservative views to Reddit every day and get dogpiled on. I never try to start anything. I think both if their ideas are what their counties need right now, what's wrong with that? Consider it a good thing that we all think differently. Extremes never lead to good things, and I think the left needs a counter balance right now.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Thin Morality	Confident
i'm quite aware of this, as a leftist. however, placing liberalism in it's worst (centrist) form in opposition to ethno-nationalism seems to be very inaccurate to me. a better parallel would have been to Melenchon, the communist, who is coincidentally surging in support right now.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Those polls were within the margin of error, not to mention that Hillary did get millions more votes than Trump. There would need to be about a 20% margin of error for her to win. That is totally unprecedented - especially cxnsidering Le Pen UNDERpeformed her polls today.	worldnews	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
Obama, Macron, and Blair represent neoliberalism pretty well, Trump is basically the opposite. Thatcher's denationalization was pretty dope, but she did some shitty stuff too	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Authority	Confident
Le Pen is plotted on the exact same spot that they plotted Adolf Hitler, yeah she's somewhat authoritarian but she's certainly not a totalitarian fascist calling for a continental wide genocide, and people still take that website seriously?	neoliberal	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Confident
I highly doubt that a) Le Pen went there to amuse herself (or anyone else for that matter) and b) that she would barge into their actual living rooms uninvited (unless she's so daft that she would do it to incite violence against herself... I wouldn't be surprised if she did, but I still don't see that as very likely)	europe	French politics	annotator01	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident

> see no contradiction in being financed by foreign white people Exactly, they're gullible. Those parties don't realise that they're being manipulated for geopolitical interests way more important than identity politics. Or maybe they do, which makes it even worse. Russia isn't supporting/funding Le Pen because of her immigration stance, but because of her anti-EU policies. Their goal is to weaken potential threats, they don't care about european demographics.

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All nations with clout meddle in the elections of other nations. I see no outrage at Obama endorsing Macron, no is there any fury over the numerous foreign endorsements in media and financial support for Hillary's failed campaign. I would suggest that such interference is a fact of life, and it is up to the citizens of each nation to make the best decisions they can. That said, what would you suggest be done with the Russians? Relations are already strained: should we isolate them completely from contact?

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So largest numbers in Paris and Lyon where Le Pen got 5% and 14%. Very interesting.

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> Also both candidates are very bad for the EU and Europe in general. Melenchon wants to *reform* the EU to make it less liberal and more democratic. Isn't that exactly what it needs? Or are you saying the EU is perfect? Plus such reforms would significantly reduce the impact of far-right anti-EU parties.

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Um, no. My point was that the slander campaign was ineffective. There was definitely no lack of trying though. What have they come up with, unfounded claims about him being gay? Don't make me laugh. Besides, "the media" and "the government" would have loved Fillon if he wasn't damaged goods, he would have destroyed Le Pen in the first round.

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Yeah, the incredibly hateful and violent le pen supporters are going to do what they do best and be a shit stain on humanity.

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I mean it's no secret that most trump supporters support Le pen. Whether or not they are bots though remains to be proven.

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Huh. Exception to the rule? I can't imagine Schulz, Asscher or Hamon do that kind of thing.

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What would have to happen for a big enough swing in Le Pen's favour?

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>LOL at calling Le Pen far right. You people are morons. I guess anyone who cares about their country and doesn't bow down to globalists and Islam are "far right" now. Say it in French.

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Really worried about all those Brownshirts Le Pen has /s

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Honestly I thought he would have just shut up. It's not surprising he's not supporting Hamon. Not only he has very different ideas, but when he was prime minister Hamon and other PS MP did a motion of censure against Valls' government, despite being from the same party. Being asked to be loyal to this guy is a bit of a joke.

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french population is 68 millions, 10.6 millions voted for Le Pen in the second round, so approximately 15%.

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Blame Macron for being such a shifty operative who only knows how to speak in platitudes. Either he has really bad advisors or he is not listening to good advice. He doesn't engender any confidence in his ability to govern. If he wins, we will most probably get more of the erratic policymaking and governing we saw from Hollande. There is a reason why calling him Emmanuel Hollande has been such an effective attack.

europe

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Are all these Le Pens connected to Petain government supporters? This explain their love to suck dicks of leaders of other countries.

europe

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Do far-righters go to some course that teaches them terms like neo-liberalism or Rothschild or libtard or Swedistan. You all use the same ten words with the only tactic you have -trying to demonise the opposition because nobody in their right mind would support Le Pen or Trump if they looked at them subjectively.

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It's not a genuine change of views. Merkel only moves to the left when politically convenient. She could have legalised it years ago if she cared enough to stand against parts of the CDU/CSU coalition. Germany still has ultra-harsh abortion laws, supports austerity measures for nationalist reasons ("stop those greedy Greeks from stealing our money again"), has a huge surplus for no good reason and Merkel herself denounced multiculturalism and supported Burka bans. As a stray social democrat I can see why people love Macron and Trudeau but Merkel is a neoliberal false idol.

neoliberal

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Left-libertarians are anarchists, libertarian marxists, communalists etc. They wouldn't vote (if they vote at all) for a neoliberal like Macron if they any other option aside from Le Pen

europe

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I guess the question really is "if Le Pen does not make second round, who will win?"

europe

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Macron intends to transcend the left right divide by instituting right wing polices. e-chuckle The corporate media is such BS.

worldnews

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Yes, being in your own circle jerk is sooooo healthy for you. I don't like le pen either, but that doesn't mean i'm a dickwad about it.

neoliberal

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Apparently he and her daughter were in the same class when macron met his wife/her mom.

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95% chance of Brexit not happening, 95% chance of Clinton winning the election, 95% chance of Le Pen not making it through the last round of elections. I wouldn't feel so safe with 95% odds of major geopolitical changes not happening in 2017.

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Jean-Marie Le Pen, a homophobe. Wow, I'm ***S H O C K E D***!

europe

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Dang you sure proved that Le Pen was a fascist! Good one!

neoliberal

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But if you don't care about Putin and don't want to ban gay marriage but do want radical auserity, Macron is your guy. Yay! /s

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People like you make Trump and Le Pen voters prefer not to disclose they're voting Trumb because instead of talking others will just berate and insult them. Ironically people like you are part of the reason these right wing politicians are winning.

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They are, I was just taking the piss. They're hacks, they're whatever they need to be to exploit the anger. MLP is going to go full socialist if she meets Fillon in the second round.

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>Transcending the dogmatic ideologies of the left and right, he advocates pragmatic policies i just vomited in my mouth, this ideology is too pure I like Macron, but this ridiculous centrist ideology of 'we're the only _pragmatists_because we base all of our policies arbitrarily between 'The Left' and 'The Right' and pretend like both have equal merits' is really one of the worst political developments in the West. Also, it's 'En Marche'.

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EU's future still doesn't look bright imo. There's several far-right govs in eastern europe, a war in the Ukraine, Brexit, Russia, etc. It's really all up to how well macron does and if merkel can pull out another victory from her parliamentary hat. Franco-German alliance is holding it together by a string.

neoliberal

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Depends on your economic stance. Mélenchon is socialist and internationalist, so expect redistribution and regulation. Le Pen is liberal-nationalist, so expect heavy regulation toward the outside (if she's true to her word, but I'm skeptic) and deregulation inside. Pick your preference.

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What's your point? What do you understand by repercussion? Isn't Le Pen in France a direct consequence of Islamist terrorism? Wasn't Brexit? Frauke Petry in Germany? Geert Wilders in your country? Jobbik in Hungary? Jimmie Akesson in Sweden? We are indeed letting these terrorists have repercussions in Europe -- "only" historical repercussions. You can argue it was a mix of many reasons but we all know fear and hate towards islamist terrorism and immigration is what finally triggered *the average European* and all these right wing populist movements in the whole of Europe.

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We do, but right now we're talking about chechnya, because Macron and Putin met a week ago and Putin said he would check on LGBT issues in Chechnya regularly. SA isn't part of Russia.

worldnews

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Amusingly, the correspondent for Sky News reporting on Macron's victory rally at the Louvre is a spitting image of Le Pen.

worldnews

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Go whole hog, Melenchon - just kill the rich if they refuse to pay.

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Remember Clinton and Trumps debates and how she absolutely ruined him? Most of the supper for FN/Trump aren't going to care about racism and intolerance, to them it's a boon. Macron doesn't seem too bad compared to what could be. If you look at the world leaders all around us, it can get way worse

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Thank god, a Le pen victory would have been disastrous to many people and countries, not just Muslims or France.

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>FINALLY - CONCLUSIVE PROOF MACRON KNOWS ABOUT US! > >http://i.imgur.com/PbPOu38.png Wait, is that for real? If so, what does it say, can anyone translate?

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Macron is quite charismatic He did not "go where the win blows", he built his movement from the ground up into what it is today (from only a year ago) And Macron has not been in the shadows, in fact the direct opposite of that. Since he left government and founded En Marche! He's been out there 24/7

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Holy hell. Everything on their page is above 3000 upvote. And what's with the "Take my energy Le pen" nonsense?

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I want to thank Soros for paying everyone that voted for Macron.

neoliberal

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Ey Donny and Le Pen: Please continue to tell us how cool Putin is and how we don't need no silly NATO?

worldnews

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More food for your fan fiction : I'm pretty sure that one point Trudeau says "si tu veux", using the "tu" and not the polite "vous" when addressing Macron, which can denote a proximity, especially in this quasi formal setting.

neoliberal

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Mélenchon stands no chance, and Hamon is not too bad. The worst PS candidate for Macron is Valls. It's possible the PS candidate might drop out in favour of Macron though, if that happens he has quite a good shot at getting to the second round.

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Yes there is a leftist narrative, yes there is a right narrative - the media are corporate entities with interests. But that is getting off topic - Not everyone you disagree with is from the "far right" - Le Pen is absolutely a moderate civic nationalist - fearmongering doesn't help anything.

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So.. what do I do if I do not support no-nation-states-globalism, but don't support Marine Le Pens harsh ideas? What do I do if I support the EU, even a federated one, but believe that multiculturalism in European states needs to be toned down a bit so that existing minorities can assimilate better into local communities?

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> Can't figure out why people laugh at them and how they lost the election What are you talking about? Macron won.

neoliberal

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That's completely different. Being an African American is not a political ideology. More, even if a Muslim runs for the presidency, does mean he will follow a radical Islam ideology. You have Fillon and Sadiq Khan. Two politicians, one Christian and the other Muslim. Yet one is more conservative than the Pope. The other voted for same sex marriage in UK. It's very unlikely that France will get a radical or conservative Islamic candidate.

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I know right? Where do the Le Pen supporters even find all these accounts to rent?

neoliberal

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>So it's only a debate about what your definition of the words involved to describe facts is (French police and Vichy gov' was involved, but is it representative and responsible of "French acts") Are you sure that Le Pen isn't actually trying to downplay the extent of French collaboration? Genuine question, as I don't know the exact context of her comments.

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All are vying for power. May or Macron's actions do not negate those of Putin, Trump, or Orban. And their actions aren't all similar. For example: While killing of journalists or opposition members is more common than it should be in Russia, we don't see that happening in the UK or France.

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Macron seems determined (in a good way) to let everyone know that France is no pushover. this might be the resurgence of a couple of European nations' influence after a half century of them being emasculated in the west. unfortunately that might come at the price of the death of American intellectualism and foreign policy, but, them's the breaks.

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Hey, apology accepted. My sincere condolences. Resist! We'll help you where we can by electing reasonable politicians like Merkel and Macron who have the courage to say no to Dumpy.

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Seems like Merkel and CDU might [not be as collaborative](http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/15/frances-europhile-in-chief-is-about-to-meet-a-berlin-wall/?utm_content=bufferd281a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer) with Macron's France as we expected.

neoliberal

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Huge Bombshell News: Le Pen knows that Russia exists, COULD SHE BE THE NEXT HITLER?! IS THIS THE END OF HER CAMPAIGN? NATE SILVER PREDICTS 0.8% CHANCE OF HER VICTORY

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And cue 'Marine le Pen' turns out to be a hardcore lesbian data-leak in 5..4..3..2..

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influence, corruption you understand what corruption is, right? if le pen wins, she is supposed to represent what is best for the french people. but she may make decisions that benefit russia or some rich russian assholes instead of the french if they bankroll her it happens everywhere in terms of rich assholes in a country corrupting the govt to serve them instead of the common person in that country but foreign corruption has the extra problem of treasonous activity

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He does love older women. I reckon Merkel and Macron's wife are about the same age?

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They're all laughing, like they had been waiting for it and THERE IT US that bozo's weird handshake, ahaha. Then Macron gives him a condescending pat at the end. If Trump was any regular joe he'd be burning with shame after pulling that stunt. He's probably feeling proud that his handshake is famous.

worldnews

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Pretty sure if Macron was like Pinochet they'd support him. After all undemocratic right-wing authoritarians with no respect for human lives are their favorite kind of politician.

europe

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Well what I said was fascist (Le Pen, in this context) fails, not fascism fails.

neoliberal

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Wrong or liable? She committed fraud and only have to return the funds! That's criminal, it's what's sunk Fillon's campaign. I do not think this is conflating separate issues. This is the same person who has such a contempt for the EU that she stole taxpayer money, yet twisted her position in it for her benefit. It's hypocrisy, how did she do nothing wrong?

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༼つ ◕_◕ ༽つ MACRON PRENEZ MON ÉNERGIE ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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So far Trump is getting glowing reviews from Nigel Farage, Marine Le Pen, Vladimir Putin, Erdogan, Duterte and pretty much every other wannabe despot in power. Maybe North Korea will get along with him too.

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Duh. Trump obviously isn't a conservative. Source: all Republicans during the primary, Trump himself. Most Republicans *are* conservative. Most Republicans differ with Le Pen & Trump on: protectionism, nativism, expanding the welfare state just because it's popular. Basically, the entire focuses of their platforms.

neoliberal

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Well considering the people who actually DID leave did so because of rising anti-Semitism I'd say they would have voted Le Pen.

europe

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Sounds like a tactic the Russians used profusely while trying to take down Macron

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> You think people who vote Mélenchon are educated? You're defending a far-left populist I'm not defending him I'm saying my opinion. I know personally some Le Pen voters and they are all uneducated. Doesn't mean at all they are stupid they are much smarter on some ways than some far leftist I know. FN program has no coherence. > He's probably the worst liar of all candidates. Prove it or ?

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keeping the social net and cutting immigration is not wrong,it's everything else that Le Pen brings to the table that I find deeply troubling. I also think it is deeply hypocritical to call yourself a patriotic nationalist if you are bribed by Moscow.

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To be fair, I was under the impression this scandal had some evidence behind it and that was why it's been continued so intensively. If Fillons accusation is right all he is doing is pointing out a clear agenda at work, but it isn't gonna make him less guilty.

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i hope every fascist nazi sympathizer that voted for Le Pen feels miserable as fuck, i want you all to feel horrible that you lost so pathetically, losers

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Hi all. I found this subreddit after the Macron victory (fuck yeah, it's a victory) and I'm so damn happy. After binge-reading the sidebar links, I'm completely convinced that I found a descriptor to my political and economic philosophy. I am among my people.

neoliberal

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It's completely natural for Macron to be somewhat hostile to Putin, considering Russia's open support for his opponent during the elections.

worldnews

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The EU is scared. They cannot afford a Le Pen victory because they would lose France. This, coupled with the loss of the UK, would kill the EU.

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omg the Le Pen family has metastasized* all over France's politics. Do they actually represent anyone, or do they just feed off their sheer cuntness like the westboro baptist church? \* wrote "methastasized". was wrong. oddly enough this didn't get autocorrected :(

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It would if it was the same person and the same leadership, but it's not. Marine Le Pen is not her father, she specifically called her father hateful and bashed his anti-Semitic views and expelled him from the party. Your argument literally amounts to "This person is bad and thinks this because this **completely different person** is bad and thinks this."

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I wonder if anyone of them will make an election campaign like hollande, promising to "end the german rule" etc., visit berlin after the election and everything will go on as it did previously.

europe

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Yeah but Melenchon's to the left so once his base grows older they'll moderate toward Macronesque policies, like generations before them. Anyway, if you win by 33pts you're not a divided nation, you're winning by a margin that makes Reagan-Mondale look small. That's not a temporary setback, that's an absolute crapping on. The French don't like the far right. If they did, she'd be President. If she would ever be president, she would've gotten more than 35%.

neoliberal

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> He also warned François Fillon, the candidate for the right-wing Républicains party, that “brutalising society must be avoided.” > “Democracy, freedom, social rights, Europe and even peace, all of that becomes vulnerable, reversible,” added Hollande. so the title is about the right wing candidate, not you know, muslim extremism which was my first assumption and the reason I read the article.

worldnews

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Let's be honest. Trump is 70 and Melania is 47. Macron is totally correct.

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Some Turks also tweeted insult to french president François Hollande thinking they tweeted to Holland the country. some people are dumb as fuck.

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They are still Vichy apologists regardless of what Le Pen has done for PR.

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In the same vein however, Le Pen should not be targeted merely because the EU does not like her. The immunity is in place so Democracy can function. Simply taking it away from people you don't like defeats its purpose. The whole issue is blown slightly out of proportion.

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ahahahahahahahahahah. How hypocrite must you be to see no difference between what Mélenchon says and what Macron says. Mélenchon's plan was to unilaterally [stop respecting treaties](https://laec.fr/section/49/prendre-les-mesures-immediates-et-unilaterales-de-sauvegarde-des-interets-de-la-nation-et-d-application-de-notre-projet) as soon as soon as he would be elected. Then "negotiate" a complete refoundation of the EU while threatening to leave the EU. Among his demands: * Devaluate the euro to parity with dollars * end the ECB independence * stop free trade * no more liberalization of energy, telecom, ... * etc. https://laec.fr/section/51/plan-a-proposer-une-refondation-democratique-sociale-et-ecologique-des-traites-europeens-par-la-renegociation

europe

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man Merkel, Obama and Macron are all globalist. You literally know nothing other than what the news spews in your face. Educate yourself. For a 40 year old it's pathetic. Open your mind, think for yourself. REEEE conspiracy you say? yea, see how many hours you've actually put into looking it up. Please just look into it instead of bashing others.

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In contrast to everybody else, who obviously likes war and social regression? Like do you honestly believe this? This kind of rhetoric is cultish in and of itself. Melenchon's NATO and EU positions, his hard income cap, his complete reversal of nuclear energy (it's like 70% of the French energy mix), his love for Fidel and Chavez and so on are all extremist positions. They go far beyond what any Social Democrat would do.

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The socialist party is socialist in name only. Or at least it's extremely divided on the question. Hamon, who leans to the left, was chosen in the primary only to be abandoned by many other party leaders who endorsed Macron instead. Mélenchon also used to be part of the 'PS' until 2008 but left.

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And quite a few more than from Macron. Great observation, hadn't noticed it.

neoliberal

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dude totally for macron but marrying your high school teacher is actually really weird

neoliberal

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Ironically, it seems Macron doesn't seem to like the song. Instead, he used a german song as victory-music.

europe

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Yes, I just wanted to highlight that compared to blanks and abstention her score wasn't as high as some people thought. If you were to rank candidates : Macron > Blank + abstention > Le Pen

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You are delusional, Mélenchon will never outperform Macron and Fillon, there is just no way

europe

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Why was western France such a Macron stronghold? In the first round he won the entire coast as well as most inland departments.

neoliberal

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No lw right wingers along twitter are calling all feminists in France hypocrites for not automatically voting Le pen. They're hilarious.

worldnews

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How are Trump and Le Pen horrible? I bring my conservative views to Reddit every day and get dogpiled on. I never try to start anything. I think both if their ideas are what their counties need right now, what's wrong with that? Consider it a good thing that we all think differently. Extremes never lead to good things, and I think the left needs a counter balance right now.

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i'm quite aware of this, as a leftist. however, placing liberalism in it's worst (centrist) form in opposition to ethno-nationalism seems to be very inaccurate to me. a better parallel would have been to Melenchon, the communist, who is coincidentally surging in support right now.

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Those polls were within the margin of error, not to mention that Hillary did get millions more votes than Trump. There would need to be about a 20% margin of error for her to win. That is totally unprecedented - especially cxnsidering Le Pen UNDERpeformed her polls today.

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Obama, Macron, and Blair represent neoliberalism pretty well, Trump is basically the opposite. Thatcher's denationalization was pretty dope, but she did some shitty stuff too

neoliberal

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Le Pen is plotted on the exact same spot that they plotted Adolf Hitler, yeah she's somewhat authoritarian but she's certainly not a totalitarian fascist calling for a continental wide genocide, and people still take that website seriously?

neoliberal

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I highly doubt that a) Le Pen went there to amuse herself (or anyone else for that matter) and b) that she would barge into their actual living rooms uninvited (unless she's so daft that she would do it to incite violence against herself... I wouldn't be surprised if she did, but I still don't see that as very likely)

europe

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