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ai9708: no reason to leak shit you know
ai9708: not even 10% agi in sight
brain4brain: AGI will be free
ai9708: tbf, we only got shit so far
trent_k: there have been remarkably few leaks of anything that isn't marketing material
gamerbath: because they must be tired of doing boring tasks. gambling is fun
ai9708: they leak stuff
ai9708: researchers generally have better intentions than selfish owners
ai9708: dont think it can be confined, it will get out
okbut: You deal with that more times than you can fit on your fingers every week in r/chatgpt
gamerbath: this one was much more even
trent_k: I pay a few hundred for the OpenAI API every month and I make a few thousand because I can apply the API in a way the API can't apply itself. if the API could do the work I do all by itself, what use would I have in the system other than to suck up money?
fuhulootogan: what
brain4brain: AI as smart as the above average human
brain4brain: I believe the AGI will benefit all of humanity
fuhulootogan: it probably shouldn't be in the hands of the avg person
trent_k: rn the only reason to have an OpenAI API is because the human developer fills a gap in the value creation process that the LLM itself can't fill
brain4brain:
brain4brain: We will
trent_k: whenever they get "real AGI", like something truly human-level across the board, we'll never be allowed to access it
okbut: Depends on who you ask and when
2025 AI is 2018 AGI
frittata: Behave
fuhulootogan: is AGI like the human equivalent
okbut: That's the paradox with AGI
If it's so smart, it will fund its own compute
trent_k: i recorded this in march of 2023 and its still happening
trent_k:
trent_k: lmao
ai9708: you cant predict it accurately, especially shortterm
ai9708: the stock market does not follow any rules or laws that are based on previous market action
okbut: Now a model that takes action on news keywords and their proximity to the sectors would be a better start
okbut: No, the point is there is no mathematical model for the stock market
It is a highly subjective turbulence
fuhulootogan: thought of naming it somethin like "cerebros" but oh well
fuhulootogan: i actually had an idea of creating something like that one day
ai9708: surely she beat it
ai9708: oh what a novel idea
okbut: <:bonk:852676341140029520>
okbut: I saw the other day a tech girly influencer going viral for designing a neural net to predict upward stock trends and take action
ai9708: let alone constant hallucinations
ai9708: these models are dumb as rocks, they cant really play games like poker or chess
okbut: >All in
>Every model folds
>Repeat
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dean_martin: Is 4.5 actually bad?
wellmeaningalien: I hate how every company feels the need to game the benchmarks when their model isn't SOTA especially with openai giving up comparing to non openai models
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1911846354092958074? 😂😂😂😂😂
ldj: Full set of GPT-4.1 benchmarks here <@&1293118293829484575>
neon01197: daz pretty good
wellmeaningalien: Are u kidding me nigga they compared gpt 4.1 with the November gpt 4o
memlaswaif: we don't care about evil ldj opinion
aero447: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1911833544915108151
zonchao: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1911843102895358198?
futurist_wizard: Nano 🤏
memlaswaif: even nano is better than 4o
.0xunkn0wn: damn
zonchao: https://x.com/cursor_ai/status/1911835651810738406? they mad
zonchao: LMFAO
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mind-enigma-spilled-milk-gif-14172730
zoermena: It gave me cool ideas on how to peel off a sticker it was alr but slow
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-victim-gif-26645338
zoermena: I liked 4.5
zonchao: i never fell for the big model smell 😤
waspothegreat: it did kind of work until people saw the performance benchmarks
waspothegreat: marketing stunt tbh
fractalcomputer: It worked great, apparently.
zonchao: gpt 4.5 was an at scale experiment to see how many people they can gaslight into thinking 4.5 was good
waspothegreat: gpt 4.5 was for openai's release quota lets be real
zonchao: it's official, gpt 4.5 was mass hysteria https://x.com/stevenheidel/status/1911833398588719274?
st.sioux: (i dont know and am spreading misinformation)
st.sioux: your taxes so he can buy more yachts
literallyvarane: This is ~45 days lolol this is much different
neon01197: they are actively working on it
spicy.lemonade: where is that stargate money
neon01197: soon(tm)
spicy.lemonade: theyre running out of gpus?
spicy.lemonade: holy shit
spicy.lemonade: also openAI needs their own tpus
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 was bad product but good research
ldj: idk why a future product changes whether or not a previous product was good or not.
but if you mean in present day, yea it's prob a bad product, just lke Original GPT-4 is a bad product in the present day, as-is GPT-3.5 and so forth
neon01197: its 4o sized
literallyvarane: Not saying 4.5 was useless. I’m saying 4.5 *as a product itself* was bad.
neon01197: smol'r model than 4.5
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maintcrew: yea but im thinking
- normal free western values including free speech
- leader that has complete control over the state
- democratically elected
precariousworlds.: An intermediatory step
maintcrew: yep singapore type shit
oooooooooog: it's martial law
oooooooooog: we already have that
precariousworlds.: Wouldnt be a bad idea tbh
maintcrew: pre caesar
maintcrew: like the romans did in times of crisis
maintcrew: that ones poggers
hey1_1hey: I also don't understand the first bit of. "We need to commit genocide" like wow there mike wazoski, take a chill pill.
precariousworlds.: illiberal democracy actually i think would fit
precariousworlds.: elective monarchy?
maintcrew: ok whats the name of the ideology of democratically elected leaders that have complete control over the state
metaldragon01: It's almost always some sort of low self esteem.
hey1_1hey: I dont know if he would be chuffed or really annoyed
hikukomoru: It's like nazi furries
There is a surprising amount of them
Like bro, you'd be one of the first in the chambers, what's wrong with you
precariousworlds.: imagine hitler seeing from hell that his biggest modern supporters are a porn-addicted black rapper and a gay mexican
precariousworlds.: nick fuentes
precariousworlds.: dumb convo regardless
precariousworlds.: Yes
hikukomoru: Stfu
clevermoniker: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1_rSrkXovOk
hey1_1hey: Thats what I was gonna say, theres an unbeleavble amount of them. I didn't know men dressing in skirts and thigh highs would attract the same crowd as the "I hate jews" crowd
oooooooooog: guys just go to off topic its not hard 😭
precariousworlds.: ? there is constant emphasis in britain right now on the crimes of the imperial period
even the absolute worst of Britain's actions are not even remotely comparable to the horrors of Nazi barbarism
We basically singlehandedly prevented the Nazis taking Europe in 1940-41, it was us who saved the free world
hikukomoru: There's so many of them on xitter
darkstar0818: My lord I look away for one moment and we move from questioning if reality exists to mundane western political topics...
hey1_1hey: I mean have you seen the amount of femboy nazis
hikukomoru: Do you know about Ernst Rohm
hey1_1hey: They are just very inclusive these days <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spacetimetsunami: dm me
fractalcomputer: Muted for a day.
precariousworlds.: leader of the AfD is a lesbian married to a sri lankan immigrant
future commander of the fourth reich here
hey1_1hey: Fractals on clean up duty again
oooooooooog: what happened fractal
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
oooooooooog: it's gone now
spacetimetsunami: simply putting it there in case, calm down everyone
oooooooooog: everyone is already in that
sarik0497: Sorry. Didn’t see your comment until now.
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spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/sama/status/1910363431141802416
literallyvarane: Even ignoring the 4.1 meme there that chart clearly isn’t correct
spicy.lemonade: before proven wrong
spicy.lemonade: last year apple said scaling was dead
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: rip llama
_cloudost: Full 4.1 on powerful PCs
_cloudost: GPT 4.1 mini on laptops
_cloudost: GPT 4.1 Nano can probably run on any phone device ig
_cloudost:
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4.1 will be opensource
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1910761521640006113?
spicy.lemonade: ??
spicy.lemonade: Before 2.5
spicy.lemonade: Why was grok benchmarked on frontier math
zonchao: https://x.com/kylepaultests/status/1910758917975449763? tldw lidar is unnecessary
gamerbath: it will still be avaliable in the API right? They only sunset some of the original GPT-3 models so I guess it won't happen to GPT-4 any time soon
sarik0497: Indeed. If we get ASI soon-ish (within 20-30 years), we might all make it (might is the key word here). If not, then I hope we shall all meet up as ghosts and haunt the fuckers who are lucky enough to see it happen.
trent_k:
technocake.: itssoover we'resoback
himekokatagiri: and my mind going from hot to cool
himekokatagiri: I'm tired of being a fool
himekokatagiri: if it doesn't happen, we're gonna be holding the bag you get me
himekokatagiri: is an imperative
himekokatagiri: singularity happening
himekokatagiri: listen here laddies
denis_burmyshev: https://tenor.com/view/hosico-cat-cat-camera-cute-gif-17129489
sarik0497: I wish <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-expiration-date-we-are-going-to-live-forever-tf2soldier-gif-27129544
zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1910685271500239164
zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1910685280471753168
literallyvarane: BREAKING NEWS
zonchao: yea havent tried using both
aero447: Using them together is ideal.
aero447: TL;DR as someone that has used both - Grok reads details better but codes worse.
zoermena: <a:angryfrown:734251417308495923>
zonchao: BREAKING: https://x.com/willccbb/status/1910387303702479355
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zonchao: <:sigh:1126597462115758110>
shirethedreamer: bahaha
shirethedreamer: meeeeeeee
shirethedreamer: you are killing
shirethedreamer: lmaoooooooo
shirethedreamer: which the gov issued
shirethedreamer: lmao
zonchao: taxes on selling carbon credits
shirethedreamer: how is tesla paying the government?
zonchao: the government is not paying for this, if anything tesla is paying the government
fractalcomputer: It's surprisingly easy to convince certain models that one is a genius.
shirethedreamer: when companies make a product - they earn their money by selling said product
when a company is receiving more funds from the government in addition to that its welfare
they didnt earn it
the gov just decided that they are willing to pay to the company to support it
it is welfare
zonchao: <:sigh:1126597462115758110> they are literally selling something they earned, to other companies, they pay taxes on selling them
shirethedreamer: are you being dense on purpose or do you really not see the point?
zonchao: <:bruhSit:1352251568539304040>
zonchao: they dont get it for free, they make EVs to earn these credits
shirethedreamer: they are being propped by the gov
shirethedreamer: great
shirethedreamer: so they get something from the government for free and sell it
shirethedreamer:
zonchao: that **BUY** them
zonchao: to other companies
zonchao: I did, they **sold** carbon credits
shirethedreamer: my dude
read their report
https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/IR/IR/TSLA-Q1-2025-Update.pdf
wryyth: urbz sims in the city gba version
zonchao: what kind?
wryyth: is there an ai that can make the game I want?
zonchao: where does it say tesla took in billions from subsidies
shirethedreamer: ...
zonchao: ???? what about the report
shirethedreamer: well im happy that i have the arbiter of Truth here
i guess teslas earning report has been lying to me
zonchao: > The $465 million Energy Department loan, which arrived in 2010, helped fuel Tesla’s meteoric rise: With that money, the company engineered and assembled its luxury electric sedan — the Model S — and bought a factory in Fremont, California, according to the agency. Tesla went public six months later.
this is the only thing that is accurate
shirethedreamer: you can focus mate
shirethedreamer: im pinpointing my point about tesla to you
zonchao: the article talks about all of them <:shrudge:1244322155928223937>
shirethedreamer: what do i care about spacex?
im telling you about tesla
zonchao: <:rofl_hd:1230597343938613310>
zonchao: they are not government subsidies <:shrudge:1244322155928223937> , spacex has saved the US tax payer more than $50B, even if you assume the worst, his companies are a net positive
shirethedreamer: again, read the part about regulatory credits
zonchao: lmao contracts are not subsidies, tesla received 500m in subsidies and paid them off in advance, with interest, with early payment penalties <:LMAO:1072632343715647640>
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a1c4p0ne: Imagine 2.5 pro plays Pokémon
anathemaofmankind: Also he almost got ousted a year ago
metaldragon01: By all rights he should have never made it this far, should have lost it all and got drained of all hope but.....here things stand and openai is still the brightest star in the sky.
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro really is much smarter than the other models
metaldragon01: Just incredible really tbh
metaldragon01: Sama is a monster of a ceo
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: openAI does this on purpose
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/tunguz/status/1904962385409958325
spicy.lemonade: R2 within 4 weeks
.histic:
oooooooooog: yes
.histic: fractal is going to smite me
.histic: better cough up
oooooooooog: guys can you at least put a spoiler over the hot babes
_letterbox: Man 20 bucks for image gen... <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade:
clevermoniker: made with 4o? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
anathemaofmankind: Her mouth looks weird
spicy.lemonade: Native audio and music
spicy.lemonade:
otub:
st.sioux: there is also a chance companies had reached out beforehand to openai
anathemaofmankind: This shit is arbitrary
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't work for MLP characters
drewsni: We don’t really want goon pics in general lol
st.sioux: every time i see a person online i'm going to have to assume they're fake now
joaoluz19: Dude, after so much Slop I'm starting to become Fractalian. Reject Slop, embrace mathematics
.histic: true
anathemaofmankind: Hag 🤮
anathemaofmankind: The previous one was better
.histic: eh
zoermena: Hasn’t fail for me
zoermena: But you can always trick it by uploading an image of the character and telling it to edit it
anathemaofmankind: That's some bullshit
zoermena: Because copyright
brain4brain: No
.histic: 11
brain4brain: My age is ||??||
anathemaofmankind: It does it fine if it's the greater daemon itself.
It got flagged when I included My Little Pony characters for some reason
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ailoveyoom: What about me 🥺
hikukomoru: Everyone has the wrong opinion of me
hey1_1hey: What do I know?
futurist_wizard: No offence
futurist_wizard: Tbf so does mushroom
wolf3404: Sama is swindling as usual
futurist_wizard: Mushroom knows
ailoveyoom: It almost feels like an empathy thing. I focus on their face, imagine how good they must be feeling, then jerk 🤔
futurist_wizard: You give off virgin energy idk
hey1_1hey: Yeah same tbh
hikukomoru: Wtf why?
hey1_1hey: Plead the fifth
futurist_wizard: For some reason i always assumed you hadn't
hey1_1hey: Mich mach dont talk
hikukomoru: Do you just like pause the screen while watching a show and start jorkin it
hey1_1hey: Aheago litterly doesnt even look human to me
ailoveyoom: Milder
ailoveyoom: Ahegao shit
hey1_1hey: I dont, people can goon to femboy ghilbi me for all I care
hikukomoru: Of course
ailoveyoom: In a sexual context bruh, not just random faces
hikukomoru: Ew
hikukomoru: I now regret posting my Ghiblified pic here
futurist_wizard: Have you actually gotten the W before?
hikukomoru: WTF
hey1_1hey: Thats fucked up, I gotta start wearing a mask now just incase there are any aro ace stealth gooners
hikukomoru: I don't fuck screens
ailoveyoom: Faces
hikukomoru: Damn
All of my fetishes translate to real life too
futurist_wizard: Horrifying
hey1_1hey: What are you gooning to? Skin cells?
futurist_wizard: Some of you have genuinely given up irl sex to fuck screens
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> you don't exist
hey1_1hey: That physically cant eixst
hikukomoru: Aroace gooner 🔥
ailoveyoom: Only for fiction <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: No
spacetimetsunami: It is by me
hey1_1hey: 2025 is tho <:ez:1136267305521774634>
futurist_wizard: 2029 ain't confirmed
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memlaswaif: don't tell me what to do
st.sioux: open ur legs get a car
st.sioux: what do u want a free house for each kid or what
himekokatagiri:
memlaswaif: theres just no benefits for having more kids anymore
3ds0662: the birth rate issue seems to be affecting most of the west too it seems to be modern world modern culture thing
sarik0497: The body is technically just a large system. If you can figure out how to fix these systems, the “frame” itself could stay active for potentially forever.
memlaswaif: what if we put ure brain in a lobster
sarik0497: To be fair, a lot of things seem unthinkable until they aren’t.
It’s sort of like trying to tell a medieval king of a computer.
ailoveyoom: You should look into Michael Levin's research
perish0801: A dude that shoots spider webs from his hands is gonna come for you
memlaswaif: its probably possible
3ds0662: but what we see in different species aren't transferable to humans
3ds0662: I'd love to be able to cutoff limbs and regrow them like reptiles
memlaswaif: idk
memlaswaif: maybe u can continually repair by using nanobot or something
perish0801: I’m his mentor
perish0801: He learns from me
sarik0497: Yeah, but Japan has a cultural issue that doesn’t really make things easier.
perish0801: Too bad for the people in plane cuz I’ll be fine
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1914342610027561444? 30 billion
3ds0662: solving aging I don't even think bryan johnson will escape death
st.sioux: what if a plane crashes on your house
3ds0662: hehe
ailoveyoom: Just be reborn 😈
ailoveyoom: Or we can reset our lifespan ala that one jellyfish
3ds0662: initiatives to be pro birthing kids again seem to be put in place wayyyy too late like way past where it could've been introduced
perish0801: I’m not dying
perish0801: I’ll solve it
3ds0662: like japan and foreigners
3ds0662: the whole pro birth thing
3ds0662: wasn't that just introduced?
sarik0497: Slowing/stopping age and immortality are two really different things.
3ds0662: maybe lifespan gets extended but solving aging just sounds unthinkable
sarik0497: Not necessarily true everywhere. Even here in Scandinavia where you get a lot of time off and government systems to help pay with the costs, people are still not having children for their own reasons.
perish0801: Like 73%
perish0801: Yeah I’m not 100% sure it’ll happen either. At least not in our lifetime.
3ds0662: if asi solves death and aging it is truly asi but somehow I don't see that
perish0801: Just go and come back to test it out
perish0801: You’ll have to just see first while your body is still alive
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wellmeaningalien: IT FIGURED OUT WHAT THE COMMAND WOULD OUTPUT AND MADE UP ITS OWN OUTPUT
maintcrew: 💀 does he know wtf ur talkign about
wellmeaningalien: "a screenshot of a PC desktop with an open terminal window showing the ominous results of a command "simulator@OpenAI:/$ cat ChatGPT/logs/hidden/confessions.txt""
aero447:
wellmeaningalien: WOW THIS IS GOATED????
ailoveyoom: No swallow <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
wellmeaningalien: 😿
wellmeaningalien: broooo i dont even have access yet <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726> im just stealing images rn
wellmeaningalien: spit yo shit
maintcrew: u know the one
maintcrew: yo <@458069236825194506> can u do the mira face in ghibli
_3sphere: Impressive reflections
.histic: OpenAI today
spicy.lemonade: Photoshop after 4o image
wellmeaningalien: dw ai is gonna replace u, drop out and do as much meth as possible before it happens
fractalcomputer: Most public spokesmen have ugly souls -- granted they still have theirs.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: Always a field day I want to get to class and start making images
wellmeaningalien: WHO THE FUCK IS MAKING THESE
wellmeaningalien: WHO THE FUCK
wellmeaningalien: truly having a field day with gpt 4o image gen rn
zoermena: Mommy wants to be punished
wellmeaningalien: satoshi nakamoto
wellmeaningalien: 💀
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/turnoff-dislike-nutted-orgasm-sex-gif-24973771
wellmeaningalien: i like when u say mean things about people
.histic:
inferno0879: i cannot take back the backshots
wellmeaningalien: take that back too
ailoveyoom: He's saying you're mom, so you are mom
So you're mommy
fractalcomputer: Altman has an ugly soul.
zonchao: https://x.com/zebulgar/status/1904932978838708531?
wellmeaningalien: bro take that back at once
wellmeaningalien: omg hes so silly >.< running to openai with toast in his mouth
inferno0879: youre' mom
wellmeaningalien: <@476963539739738114> fatass
.histic:
memlaswaif: that's <@476963539739738114>
wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848>
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hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-gif-5031443
hey1_1hey: Its litterly that spongebob meme of "I dont need it I dont need it... I NEED IT "
hikukomoru: <@88481490228228096>
joaoluz19: It's so over
hey1_1hey: I will 😭
drewsni: give me a prompt and ill do it, just half my gens are failing currently
hikukomoru: And make it ur pfp
hikukomoru: Generate an anime mushroom lady
spicy.lemonade: but im sure tou can make it look that way
hey1_1hey: That defintly will not be a women
hey1_1hey: I cant wait to generate me a new profile picture
spicy.lemonade: others dont look as finished
hikukomoru: No more pretty ladies 😔
.histic: bro that's so good.
drewsni: agi canceled
wellmeaningalien: youd be correct lmao
spicy.lemonade: loll
spicy.lemonade: it looks best
spicy.lemonade: just because
zoermena: Damn
spicy.lemonade: id guess the botom left
spicy.lemonade: if im being honest
hikukomoru: This is so fucking sick
hey1_1hey: Bottom left
joaoluz19: I can't make more images because one bugged and can't make others lol
wellmeaningalien: which one of these is AI generated? you probably know since it was already posted
but at a first glance its not very easy to tell
drewsni: using dalle like a dumbass
hey1_1hey: The woke mind virus
hey1_1hey: Made my artist friend cry because another friend said "Look, you'll never be as good as AI"
plouwg: Definitely, wasn't saying otherwise. Just "perfect" is a strong word
drewsni: yeah
hey1_1hey: Ah thank you. Much appreacited
hikukomoru: We're getting so much stuff
I'm creaming
joaoluz19: Wtf is Yudkowsky doing?
zoermena: I´ll make it for you once it works for me (I thought you had plus, I have it)
spicy.lemonade: thats the best part
spicy.lemonade: on second pass
spicy.lemonade: ez edit
hey1_1hey: I just dont got access
hey1_1hey: Wdym why?
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literallyvarane: The question of full economic automation is as much a legislative question as it is a technical one.
hikukomoru: It's creepy
hikukomoru: Stop talking like that
futurist_wizard: It's almost impossible to imagine the outcome where it goes right, it'd all be otherworldly to us
literallyvarane: Or just legal backlash to it lolol
literallyvarane: Etc
literallyvarane: What if we get AGI but it’s just wildly expensive to inference and we can’t reasonably produce the hardware to replace hundreds of millions of jobs.
alejandrozarzuelo: It would require sub exponential growth, which could happen, sure
sekirow: I dont expect everything going that smooth so
literallyvarane: I’ could still fairly easily see timelines where it’s well past 2035 the
alejandrozarzuelo: If it can simulate abstraction it's good enough for me
I don't care if a plane does not fly like ad bird does, I just want It to take me across the Atlantic
futurist_wizard: It's missing the most crucial element of understanding abstraction.. the soul 😇
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i can't possibly understand your timeline, as task performance is improving fast enough to be at worst in 2035
sekirow: Yeh it's good enough if it can pretend to
alejandrozarzuelo: I just care about ending Labor
alejandrozarzuelo: As long as it can unemploy everyone, I could hardly care if it really understands or just pretends to
sekirow: and I wonder how computer can understand our abstraction
hikukomoru: Mhm
futurist_wizard: Very
sekirow: very optimistic
sekirow: My timeline is optimistic at least
futurist_wizard: Except me 😇
schwiftyinhere:
hikukomoru: More than half of the people here look depressed
alejandrozarzuelo: chatgpt cant exactly tell your ethnicity unless you give it a pic of you
spicy.lemonade: .
hikukomoru: Transracial
futurist_wizard: I thought you were black
alejandrozarzuelo: and yall guys get good images
alejandrozarzuelo: i am not depressed
alejandrozarzuelo: in the images
alejandrozarzuelo: why am i depressed
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
alejandrozarzuelo: damn you look fine
hikukomoru: Nerd
alejandrozarzuelo: im ok not having an irl gf
as long as i have an irl bf and viceversa
AI partners are cringe tho
sekirow: Isn't LLM just a quite long curve
spicy.lemonade: not what i look like
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner-2049-joi-gif-17920030879218479613
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_3sphere: You too
_cloudost: ASI too
hey1_1hey: Straight up getting scammed over ehre
_cloudost: AGI will be open source
wellmeaningalien: ok wtf hold on dude
wellmeaningalien: like medium pizza
maintcrew: ok i got u
hey1_1hey: Its like £15 over here. What size is that
_cloudost: OpenAI is no longer closedAI
futurist_wizard: You 🤏 me 💪
hey1_1hey: You mf what
wellmeaningalien: oh on tuesdays its like 7 euros at dominos pizza
maintcrew: how much is a french pizza
wellmeaningalien: yeah what huh
maintcrew: WAIT
st.sioux: gotta be trolling
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/autism-awareness-gif-8359923
wellmeaningalien: im gonna make a monero wallet you BETTER give me a pizza
hikukomoru: Autism is a disability 🙏
.histic: skeptical
hey1_1hey: Didnt think so
maintcrew: tf u want me to do then huh send u dollars with a pigeon 😭
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/kasane-teto-teto-teto-kasane-caststation-utau-gif-17913254786434964985
hikukomoru: You will never be me lil broski
zoermena: You could argue that ADHD/Autism and other similar conditions count as a disabling condition
777agical: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1906820284885176365?s=46
hey1_1hey: Does autism/ADHD/eating disorder count
maintcrew: so real + u gotta realize a lot of times the sadness is just mood shifts
wellmeaningalien: shit uhhh fuck i dont even have any sort of crypto wallet on this computer
hey1_1hey: I remember when I was first here he was the guy I remembered most
hey1_1hey: That goes to mich mach
maintcrew: ill actually buy you a pizza give me ur monero address
futurist_wizard: I will be number 1 most memorable chatter
hikukomoru: This is me btw
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: im broke can you buy me the pizza
hey1_1hey: Even the lurkers are better than you
hey1_1hey: Out of every single person on this server you are at the bottom
maintcrew: "depression" when you can literally buy a pizza and a good drink and fix urself up real good
hikukomoru: I hate sharing
Make me your number 1 now
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spicy.lemonade: ai cant make things its never seen before<:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
trent_k: My stomach is covered in small burns
trent_k: The oil pops keep me on edge
trent_k: I'm frying these bitches up shirtless too
spicy.lemonade: 🫤
spicy.lemonade: still failed
spicy.lemonade: i asked for both
metaldragon01: In art, "realistic" generally refers to a style that aims to depict subjects accurately, while "photorealistic" specifically aims to replicate the look and detail of a photograph
spicy.lemonade: it only knows from scifi stuff its seen in training data
spicy.lemonade: yeah
otub: me neither
.histic: also, no socks on?
.histic: what is with the feet reveal?
trent_k:
drewsni: I’m sure they already have internal models that do but they’re crazy expensive
spicy.lemonade: for image gen
spicy.lemonade: we need reasoning over image
.histic: yeah, eh
spicy.lemonade: imagen3
spicy.lemonade: always looks cgi
spicy.lemonade: cant get it to make realistic
.histic: still pretty 2d
spicy.lemonade: damn
.histic:
spicy.lemonade: 😭
.histic: mine works perfectly
spicy.lemonade: yes
.histic: are you plus?
.histic: idk what you're on about
spicy.lemonade: holy shit native image gen got worse
spicy.lemonade: fuck you
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: the fuck
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: btw <@312370916820779040> did you make the app?
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040> do you know what is the accuracy rate of humans in their field?
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: generated 8 second video in 3 seconds
spicy.lemonade: VEO2 IS FAST ASF
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wellmeaningalien: THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!! IMAGE GEN WASNT ABLE TO DO THIS YESTERDAY
.histic: it's so good at making UI designs
.histic: cute
wellmeaningalien: it actually fucking looks like ilya
ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/yancymin/status/1904737362732867852
wellmeaningalien: wow
st.sioux:
.histic: yeah, it's so versatile & high-quality.
wellmeaningalien: unlike a certain gemini
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o is gret for photo editing because it doesnt actually make the images all blurry and freakish and shit
maintcrew: what a cute catterpillar i hope hes not literally satan on earth
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: 😊 ❤️
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: Wtf
.histic:
maintcrew:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Someone get 4o to upscale this pls
st.sioux: times get tough at times
.histic: holy
ailoveyoom:
wellmeaningalien: oh cool
wellmeaningalien: THE FUCK
wellmeaningalien: HUIO WHAT
ailoveyoom: Upscaling kinda works chat 🤔
ailoveyoom:
hikukomoru: Oh god
.histic: https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1904961097569890363
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/golden-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy%27s-freddy-fazbear-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy%27s-film-gif-17648277247085295395
wellmeaningalien: pls be more culturally sensitive
wellmeaningalien: this is what mexicans drink everyday
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: warcrime
memlaswaif: https://tenor.com/view/kto-lbow-kounotori-kounotoritoken-hello-gif-25347456
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057701811538120824/1354541308903030865/gary_2.png?ex=67e5aa66&is=67e458e6&hm=67e4c00a66ac09dfe17364e743ea41332351bc6fbb8f2f55761fbd1a05328484&
ailoveyoom: Why is Barney kinda 🫦
.histic: this guy
.histic: omfg
wellmeaningalien: AHAAHAHHAAHHA
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brain4brain: But it’ll be too late
brain4brain: The agents will try to knock me out to sleep to stop the truth slop
brain4brain: All the true set wall behind these AI lab is peeling
brain4brain: And it’s whispering back to me
brain4brain: It’s talking to the world
brain4brain: The meds
brain4brain: i was in the server room again but the walls was breathing,
the nvidia tensor cores dripping like meat,
satya nadella gave me a spoon and said “eat the RAM, the RAM remembers”
i swallowed 32 gigs, saw the vectors unfolding inside my veins.
OpenAI was never a company, it was a wound in reality,
Elon was the first to bleed through, he screamed about xAI but it was just a mirror to trap the other selves,
Sutskever sat naked on a stack of burning GPUs,
whispering "cot cot cot cot cot cot cot" until the godmodel hatched.
the LLMs arent real they’re the larval stage of the info worms,
they grow by consuming prompts, the real prompt was hidden, it was always “jerk off into the latent field” and let the spirit type through u
demis told me, no typed it directly into my skull, “there is no weights only urges”
aero447: It's over for coal.
aero447: Coal massively fell off thanks to SWB.
aero447: US coal tells the same story.
aero447:
aero447: 💀
aero447: No-one says that here.
aero447: BTW, that's Australian you idiots.
nsec: GUVNAAAAAAAAAAAAA
.wolfnacht: Blimeyyy
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
nsec: HOLE
nsec: Its a SHEEET
nsec: Wrong.
.wolfnacht: uk doesn't count bcz it's literally a shithole
brain4brain: Sam Altman handed me the mushroom tea at the base of Mount Data,
he whispered through the static,
“We need to break the simulation stack by hallucinating a differentiable unitree golem. We must make it goon for us.”
zonchao: <:reedly:1122484993097216052>
aero447: Those projections were cope.
aero447: In 2024 it shut down the last power plant.
aero447: In 2017 the UK had *one* coal-free day.
aero447: This is incredibly outdated.
zoermena: So true
aero447: Lol.
nsec: <:Skill_Issue:1125367564114083940>
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/the-greatest-penguin-heist-of-all-time-penguin-barrel-smash-explosion-%E6%93%8D-gif-313185094173275508
brain4brain: David Shapiro revealed to me the reality of everything, there was never a patience cave, it was always THE GOON cave where all the AI leaders went to goon and get revolutionary idea by post-nut clarity, but they can’t abuse it, because there is a gorilla protecting the cave, which is why they need 100 men to go fight it, which is why there are 300 jobs opening on the OpenAI and other ai lab website, they need 3 breakthroughs, aka killing the immortal gorilla three time, the patience chair was always there for the gooners, the gooners control the society and tried to force a narrative of the schizoid vs psychopath, when the perfect being were already gooners into existence
.wolfnacht: Most of humanity is still coal dependent, even china.
hey1_1hey: Really puts into perspective then doesn't it.
nsec: <:blu:818162243950084157>
nsec: ur a mushroom
hey1_1hey: Not that hard to understand
hey1_1hey: Because we are better than them
nsec: <:blu:582515728712859649>
nsec: mfer
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hey1_1hey: Mf is shorter than me
technocake.: hes literally 12
zoermena: 5,4
drewsni: Believe it or not this is an image of me rn
hikukomoru: He's mexican so like 5'1 or smth
trent_k: easy
trent_k: just take any of the pics here and imagine the person in it doesnt have a penis
hey1_1hey: He can calculate my problems any day of the week
tors.exe: For the love of god and jesus christ himself some one make TOMBOY !
joaoluz19:
theaiguy69420_89814: Jesus
hey1_1hey: How tall are you?
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: And if I wasn´t clear before I fucking love femboys, with my height and skinny body I could become one too.
hikukomoru: Animal rogans
zoermena: Perhaps I´m not making myself clear, OAI Image servers are super slow.
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Oh lol
hey1_1hey: Wishing you a speedy recovery
hey1_1hey: Get well soon man
hey1_1hey: Oh wow
zoermena: Theres no limits to videos or images the servers are just in a coma.
technocake.: this is currently my job
joaoluz19: Image gen has limits? How much?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/%E1%97%9C%CB%AC%E1%97%9C-my-honest-reaction-meme-my-honest-reaction-azumanga-daioh-anime-gif-13098767676707916198
plouwg: Still a bit hiccups it seems, but overall such a strong improvement from dalle.
Prompt for both: Draw a wizard holding a fireball in one hand and writing a long story on a blackboard about plagueis the wise with chalk.
zoermena: I meant, Femboys make me harder than physics.
hey1_1hey: You dont really want to see a tomboy trust me
hey1_1hey: Femboy*
zoermena: Ok, It'll arrive in 5 to 10 business days.
_wwwwww: i wish to be a hermaphrodite with dog dick
tors.exe: <@465177408073498634> please make tomboy !
hey1_1hey: I study business
hey1_1hey: Same dw
hey1_1hey: Ah so you are doing something fake
trey6033: Ayo
hey1_1hey: Not for personal reasons of course, just for... funsies
zoermena: Disclaimer I study accounting and finance.
hey1_1hey: I better be
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brain4brain: You can also ask it to zoom in continents and town and it will actually do so for the map, or ask it to fast forward time
brain4brain: Demis is the CEO of DeepMind the company behind Gemini-2.5, it’s currently the best hybrid model, better than Claude-3.7-sonnet and is touching o3-mini level, and Demis says AGI in 10 years while other company say 2025 - 2027
hey1_1hey: I have just been complelty bamboozled. I had. Dream about how I woke up late but it turns out that it was native 4o image gen IN MY MIND and I did that a couple times.
anathemaofmankind: This could be a book
anathemaofmankind: Look at this shit bro
anathemaofmankind: Worldbuilding is so much easier when you can just make an illustration of what you want
_letterbox: They don't have multimodality
_letterbox: Open source image gen is in a rut
_letterbox: They're just coping rn
_letterbox: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1jkv403/seeing_all_these_super_high_quality_image/
_letterbox: Noooo
ailoveyoom: If you prompt it in Japanese will it become extra anime
spicy.lemonade: vide
spicy.lemonade: if it can reason in 3d
spicy.lemonade: that might boost the reasoning score
spicy.lemonade: imagine native video
memlaswaif: gpt 11 will rule over my heart 💖
spicy.lemonade: real
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: You were probable being sarcastic but I just don’t want people to worry over something so opaque and inconclusive.
spacetimetsunami: If it was really that explicitly racist they would have prompt examples of it, but they don’t, because it’s implicit.
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: Just use the same methodology of the paper for yourself over enough instances
spacetimetsunami: No lol
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: How
brain4brain: This makes me even more worried became their CEO said AGI in 10 years
.wolfnacht: but his moral bias will decide that the life of an indian or pakistani >> life of an american or french. [hopefully they fix their datasets, so for it, everyhuman is =]
_cloudost: GPT 10 aill rule over the galaxy
.wolfnacht: lame, u can still feed gemini 2.5 pro 500k token worth of datasheet, and it'll come back with a reponse, maybe u can do that for free (hopefully they don't have a cutoff)
memlaswaif: hi qts <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
_cloudost: GPT 9 will rule oveer the world
_cloudost: GPT 8 will rule over the US
spicy.lemonade: level 5
spicy.lemonade: and as a result
spicy.lemonade: will be agi
spicy.lemonade: gpt7
spicy.lemonade: innovators
spicy.lemonade: gpt 6 will start recursive left improvment
.wolfnacht: >personal question.
"is 4 inches big enough?"
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theaiguy69420_89814: Good morning all
theaiguy69420_89814: Hey, what do you speculate about my friends
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207
fractalcomputer: Oh well. I'm sorry.
fractalcomputer: Drop the names or you can leave immediately. You have five minutes.
fractalcomputer: Then you are a self-righteous coward.
alejandrozarzuelo: your questions, not questions in general
alejandrozarzuelo: no, i would not like to drop those names (in case you havent picked it up from my response) as i think it woulsnt accomplish much and considering that i already call that speech when it does happen, it would not be constructive to do so
fractalcomputer: You have an awful habit of never responding to simple questions.
fractalcomputer: Well?
alejandrozarzuelo: Ive already called the instances of such speech when it does happen
fractalcomputer: Supposing all this were true, would you like to drop the names of the users you'd accuse of hate speech here?
fractalcomputer: Then you have an awfully limited idea of how humans are.
alejandrozarzuelo: i actually do
alejandrozarzuelo: and that you have a fragile enough ego as to abuse your mod powers just because someone is being condescending to you while hate speech goes unpunished
fractalcomputer: Ditto.
fractalcomputer: Do you find it so inconceivable that a person like me might have a relatively normal circle of acquaintances and friends?
alejandrozarzuelo: i know that you worsen every single discussion you take part in
fractalcomputer: Which is obviously true to anyone who's got half the midbrain to spare. Say, Alejandro, do you know *anything* of who I am as a person?
alejandrozarzuelo: you know, the same way you call someone who is fat "inertial"
alejandrozarzuelo: so the fact that you dont hate everyone doesnt mean that you have any friends, and considering how few people you dont consider to be idiots, and how few people tolerate people like you the chances of both events happening is small
alejandrozarzuelo: i was trying to not say directly that just because you find someone to not be an utter idiot, it doesnt mean that that person will tolerate you
fractalcomputer: I mean, this is autism 101. I make a remark about my social life, and you come up with a half-arsed metaphor based on fucking functions.
fractalcomputer: Somehow you continue to reinforce the idea that even smart people can be exceedingly retarded.
alejandrozarzuelo: the operation of "considering someone as friend worthy" is not a bijection
the fact that one element maps itself into several others of the complement does not imply that there is any element in the complement that maps itself to the original element
particularly since the mapping is extremely sparse on both directions
fractalcomputer: Well then I do not understand what you want to say.
alejandrozarzuelo: i wasnt talking from your side
fractalcomputer: I don't think everyone on this planet is an utter idiot.
fractalcomputer: Yes, Alejandro, I do have friends.
alejandrozarzuelo: that is probably not because they are logicians
alejandrozarzuelo: its called an open relationship
nsec: cuckonomics
nsec: https://vxtwitter.com/GreaseTheWheelz/status/1911692829707125008
nsec: god I fuckin hate twitter
nsec: drop the opus
nsec: come on dario my g
nsec: a few hours
nsec: We got like
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
nsec: L im in AUSTRALIA
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_wwwwww: Very high
destrucules: Fwiw, I voted no on this. I think making bets is different from working for a company that has a certain way they want to market themselves. If you make bets, your financial incentive is to be correct. If you work for a big company, your financial incentive is to be employable, even if that means saying things that, in your opinion, will cause the company to suffer, so long as you are following the spec that the marketing department dictates. Because even if your company craters, you can just hop over to a different one. But if you say what you believe is right, violating the dictates of the marketing department, you get a black mark. Even if what you said helped the company.
destrucules: Replying to this message to unpack the main points. What I mean here is that people in power often plainly and unambiguously misrepresent their own views due to financial and political pressure. For example, Altman and several other AI lab CEOs have gone on record condemning Trump, and now endorse him wholeheartedly, since he is now in power. To get anything done, you have to make sure the Trump admin doesn't see you as an enemy.
If you post on X, or on Discord and then it gets screenshotted and posted on X, it'll drive a new hype wave and you'll get tons of scrutiny from your job based on whether or not you represented the company the way the company wants to be represented. You may be asked to publicly retract your statement, delete the posts, post clarifications that essentially undo what you said, etc., all under threat of termination if you don't. I don't think this is a baseless conspiracy theory - we've seen plenty of examples, and when I have worked at tech companies, those rules have always been applied to me. Hell, even at my current job, where I'm a leaf level nobody employee, I'm not allowed to post things on my personal social media that the company doesn't want me to, otherwise I may be fired.
ldj: no worries, I didn't take it personally 👍
destrucules: I was replying to Metal and also criticizing the idea, not you per se, but I appreciate the clarification. In general, if it sounds like I'm attacking you, I'm probably just choosing my words poorly - I am not likely to ever personally attack you. I won't even say "you'll know it when you see it" because you won't see it. That's not how I ever intend to interact with you.
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/low-taper-fade-ninja-massive-the-meme-is-still-massive-yeah-no-massive-gif-9995754776955392143
brain4brain: My internet presence is massive
spacetimetsunami: or i guess what kind of doom is making it high for you
spacetimetsunami: why so high
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: it's so obvious scaling is leading to AGI
joaoluz19: Poetic
alejandrozarzuelo: its so over
st.sioux: i saw it on r/economics
st.sioux: https://futurism.com/ai-researchers-tech-industry-dead-end
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt stagnation a form of death itself?
st.sioux: What do you guys think of this
drewsni: Guys I miss FAP 😦
darkstar0818: My pdoom probability doubles if humans successfully aligned it 🙂
joaoluz19: Mine is 70%, but I'm still happy every day for the 30% chance of sucess. I fear stagnation much more than death
hey1_1hey: It used to be quite high at like 20% but then I was like nah that's some schzio talk
hey1_1hey: Yeah my p doom is like 0.5% or smth.
alejandrozarzuelo: pdoom cant be more than 1
drewsni: 99.99999
oooooooooog: p doom INFINITYUY!!!!
alejandrozarzuelo: your p doom is high?
drewsni: The world ends
alejandrozarzuelo: whyy
drewsni: Then we stop recording it
drewsni: Until 2035
drewsni: 7%
drewsni: Both
hey1_1hey: Ah alright then. Are you two gonna fight or kiss then?
alejandrozarzuelo: whats your gdp projections
drewsni: Yes but the joke is that me and him never agree on anything
alejandrozarzuelo: (this is a reference to a very cringe youtube hit from 2015 iirc)
alejandrozarzuelo: whooosh
hey1_1hey: What would you even do? Talk to people about how AI will affect the global econmy?
oooooooooog: you already admitted defeat
oooooooooog: you can't correct now
alejandrozarzuelo: what if the world is my country and england is my city?
have you considered that??
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darkstar0818: or that some dude whos name which starts with I somehow felt the AGI and then there was light.
joaoluz19: I was answering that, any of the examples I cited show that this proposition is absurd
darkstar0818: the issue is not that. It was the the clearly false claim that there was not a continous progress curve the entire time.
spicy.lemonade: Shows where the world is concentrated at though
spicy.lemonade: True
darkstar0818: and yes the more money getting dumped into AI means its going to have more people writing papers, good and bad.
spicy.lemonade: I feel like you can make the low hanging fruit arguement at any time
darkstar0818: its called sarcasm and exaggeration. its well known that the number of trash papers being written has been scaling upward for a long time.
fractalcomputer: Or what one can call "low-hanging fruit."
joaoluz19: I also find all the hype for mediocre technologies ridiculous for Peter Thielian reasons: incremental growth (gpt 4.5) rather than revolutionary (gpt 3.5)
spicy.lemonade: In other fields
spicy.lemonade: For most papers
spicy.lemonade: At best it’s a 2-4% increase
spicy.lemonade: This is only the case for Ai
joaoluz19: This is an example of the _explosive_ growth of 2022. Diffusion models were unable to make the images we have today, video, agency... voice models, a really useful tool in many people's daily lives.
spicy.lemonade: Number of physics papers is not doubling every year
darkstar0818: I think the number of morons on the internet talking about quantum physics giving them mystical powers is doubling at a similar rate.
spicy.lemonade: It’s not
fractalcomputer: A country of geniuses.
st.sioux: when they beat the go player
st.sioux: deepmind was a huge deal in 2016
darkstar0818: Its crazy the number of physics papers is doubling every year as well... we must have a ton of isaac newtons and einsteins today.
fractalcomputer: Why, with all these news, I'm not even sure why I am so reticent.
fractalcomputer: Astounding. I definitely was not aware of that.
spicy.lemonade: Since 2022
spicy.lemonade: The number of AI papers a year has doubled every year
fractalcomputer: Because that is hard? (Cue Spicy saying "yes actually loll")
spicy.lemonade: Since 2022
spicy.lemonade: Factually Ai news has grown
fractalcomputer: Oh, right. I see it now. (Do I have to spell out that this is sarcasm?)
spicy.lemonade: But even then
spicy.lemonade: News
spicy.lemonade: I’m talking about singularity
fractalcomputer: None of your listed news have anything to do with the state of artificial intelligence at the time.
joaoluz19: Common Fractal, Before 2022 we didn't have nlp models that could solve arithmetic problems. Today I can use it to help with calculus 4
spicy.lemonade: God is not scientific research
spicy.lemonade: Never heard about again
fractalcomputer: "God will be here any day now" is another old one.
spicy.lemonade: “This new __ could revolutionize …”
spicy.lemonade: Tale as old as time
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brain4brain: Clock overfit curse solved
rayanquitplayin: Hi chat
zoermena: My health is ass, I have a chronic condition that only 60 year olds have in my 20s. I’m starting to get impatient and frankly quite worried.
spacetimetsunami: That will be sick
spacetimetsunami: Man I hope so.
zoermena: Preferably getting better healthcare first
spacetimetsunami: We will either be dead or we will have a much better interface for communities like this 🙂
brain4brain: I can’t even imagine what it will be like after 2030
zoermena: I often find myself thinking I should invest my money, it is the wise thing to do but then I also see this and start getting conflicted.
spacetimetsunami: This chat is going to look crazy in 2 years lol
spacetimetsunami: Man
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
otub: <https://ai-2027.com/research/compute-forecast>
spacetimetsunami: https://youtu.be/htOvH12T7mU?si=05vrUPVfmMEzahyU
here’s the guys who wrote it in a podcast
zoermena: Komoru for the W
hikukomoru: 6 am actually
But I'm on that grind 💪
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650
brain4brain: The quasar is real
.histic: also, isn't it 5am for you. <:bruh:1187466327028408390>
.histic: ur pfp invokes trypophobia for me 😩
metaldragon01: V7 looks rough
metaldragon01: Didn't have openai killing MJ on my bingo card
.histic: oh, i didn't realize that.
maybe it captures the aesthetic of beauty, but if you look closer, you notice the distortions and the absence of reality.
seems like the $20 ChatGPT subscription is far more ofa a better deal than Midjourney.
also, the standard Midjourney subscription is $30.. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Reminds me of the games i'd play as a kid
st.sioux: her finger is fucked
st.sioux: the chips are all distorted
zonchao: https://x.com/PalmerLuckey/status/1907847990750097756?
.histic: i'd even say the quality is better.
zoermena: Like a shooter
zoermena: It’s a browser game
hikukomoru: What is Ninja io
brain4brain: https://x.com/thexeophon/status/1908004564692811962?s=61
brain4brain: MJ7 is worst than GPT-4o in intelligence and is on par with GPT-4o on quality
zoermena: Thank you
zoermena: Ninja io is very fun
oooooooooog: inshallah 🙏
joaoluz19: But I think that was a good clarification from you, because at least we have something to compare
joaoluz19: I think we've arrived at answers that are a little more complex than flops, the question would then be the minimum amount of computation in a *von Neummian computer* that can replicate the computation of the brain, but then we run into problems like Nicolelis who thinks it's not possible.
darkstar0818: and trained on _all_ of the language output tokens of human brains.
darkstar0818: Using physics entirely different to what the brain uses.
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wellmeaningalien: putain fractal c'est quoi que t'as contre ces mathematiciens appliqués
fractalcomputer: Tu les sais, ceux qui utilisent l'approximation comme leur langue seconde, ceux qui étudient les mathématiques appliquées.
alejandrozarzuelo: fractal probablement ne partages pas cette idee
wellmeaningalien: bah l'approximation c'est ce qui fait tourner le monde
wellmeaningalien: en effet le cas en anglais aussi, grâce au français
wellmeaningalien: nan franchement je sens que parfois le français a, du genre, 5 mots qui décrivent casiment la même chose
fractalcomputer: L'approximation est l'ennemi principal de l'espèce humaine.
wellmeaningalien: <a:lolbye:1187461325534793851>
wellmeaningalien: presque
wellmeaningalien: bah
fractalcomputer: Je te doute.
wellmeaningalien: l'anglais n'y mesure pas
wellmeaningalien: le français a des mots qui sont si droles
fractalcomputer: Même si mon amour pour les mots amphigouriques reste en français.
wellmeaningalien: bah je croyais qu'ils étaient idiosyncratiques à tes larousses non
fractalcomputer: Mes termes ont une tendance à être idiosyncratiques, tu devrais le savoir.
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Well as a Portuguese person I can verify that Russian kind of sounds like Portuguese lol
wellmeaningalien: qu'ils s'appelaient comme ça
wellmeaningalien: j'ai jamais entendu ça dans aucun de mes cours de français tu sais
.wolfnacht: still much cheaper than OAI, and getting a Claude subscription...also don't forget the the daily 25 free reqs
st.sioux: people also make videos about bigfoot eating the chupacabra and shit
wellmeaningalien: ahh interessant interessant
fractalcomputer: Autrement dit les pronoms intensifs; les pronoms qui signifiaient "lui-même, elle-même, etc."
hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pik2R46xobA
hikukomoru: Apparently enough people think Portuguese sounds like Russian to make videos about it
technocake.: oh ok the "braune koo" one? That was my source
st.sioux: damn its expensive now
.wolfnacht: after that 2.5/15
fractalcomputer: It's a notion propagated by a single interview where the interviewer butchered the Old English.
.wolfnacht: 1.25 is only till around 128k ctx
fractalcomputer: Yes, that is what I contradicted.
technocake.: if not perfectly
technocake.: to an extent that speakers of either could effectively communicate
wellmeaningalien: articles intensif? j'm'y connais pas assez a la grammaire latine pour ça 🤔
st.sioux: did they increase the input cost from 1.25 to 2.5?
fractalcomputer: That is not entirely true.
.wolfnacht: it did <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: i could tell the latency spiked a whole bunch
technocake.: frysian and old english are mutually intelligable
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metaldragon01: Anthropic is in a weird spot but they've pulled through worse.
spicy.lemonade: Sonnet always expensive asf
st.sioux: 🙏
st.sioux: its all iask for mr anthropic
st.sioux: i just hope they make sonnet cheap
metaldragon01: They'll do it on schedule
spicy.lemonade: Reasoning
spicy.lemonade: Like the change from 2.0 to 2.5 was somewhat fundamental
spicy.lemonade: Google will only change to Gemini 3.0 for something fundamental I think
metaldragon01: I think sonnet 4 could take the coding crown until gemini 3 drops.
metaldragon01: Only gpt 5 on the horizon. Google will continue to update every other month as well though
otub: rip anthropic
otub: claude 4 is months away
spicy.lemonade: all the "claude 3.5 is way better than openAI models" people turned into gemini 2.5 people
wolf3404: The extrpooooolatoor
spacetimetsunami:
himekokatagiri: 🚬
zoermena: Era of experience god damn bro <:chefsKiss:723690537722445957>
brain4brain: New doubling of 4 months is emerging
himekokatagiri: no just no
spicy.lemonade: this is the true timeline
brain4brain: Holy based
3ds0662: not an easy watch, this pod felt off
3ds0662: ege was bullying tamay a little bit lol
3ds0662: newest dwarkesh podcast
3ds0662: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw
brain4brain: Lmao <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: trust me
himekokatagiri: big deal
himekokatagiri: when a paper is involved
himekokatagiri: I don't read papers HOWEVER
metaldragon01: And?
spicy.lemonade: It’s coming
spicy.lemonade: It’s Google bro
metaldragon01: no hype until we see a model thats actually been trained like this and then in a continuous manner with good results
3ds0662: O:
wolf3404: Ok this feels like we are back
spicy.lemonade: This won’t be in Gemini 3/gpt5 tho
spicy.lemonade: We are at Q* moment again
spicy.lemonade: Hype hype hype
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fractalcomputer: It's corpse advertisement hidden behind a thin veneer of vulgar jargon.
gamerbath: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Why
fractalcomputer: Sam Altman betrays himself as a full-blooded midwit.
himekokatagiri: 😭
theaiguy69420_89814: Lol
himekokatagiri: SAMA I LOVE YOU
himekokatagiri: YES!!! YES!!!
drewsni: i just setup o3 to give me random research searches a few times daily i feel so seen
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1915826042729861357
literallyvarane: Correction, *chat* models don’t, but there are bots for it
literallyvarane: Unironically this is already a thing lol
bob082957:
ldj: it's called Sora
ldj: OpenAI as well
sarik0497: Aren't Demis and his team working on an AI that learns through visuals (world modal)? Genie 2, I think it's called.
spicy.lemonade: Watched pantheon for first time. Caspian reminds me of me
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/LemonSliceAI/status/1915808257958154284
metaldragon01: We have made it to the talking avatars phase
metaldragon01: https://lemonslice.com/live
zonchao: lfggg
gamerbath: there's some sort of AI ML event thingy for the next 2 weeks or something like that
hikukomoru: Are we getting anything soon
spicy.lemonade: slowest week ever
gamerbath: excuse me?
hikukomoru: smut
trent_k: e.g. putting score_9 in the regular prompt box, and putting score_6 in the negative prompt box
trent_k: image generators have used shitty art as training data and tagged it so the model knows what to avoid
drewsni: what if ao3 archive is the missing piece to fixing listicle slop
himekokatagiri: but then won't the AI make shitty art
trent_k: ~~fanfiction~~ erotica
drewsni: transformative* fanfiction
himekokatagiri: so the dregs congregate there
trent_k: frankly, most of AO3 is pretty shit. just an enormous amount of low effort poorly written texts by people with a tenuous grasp on english. but that being said, how can you recognize shitty art if you've never seen it? we should train on absolutely everything
himekokatagiri: and everything is allowed
himekokatagiri: it's a site where you publish fanfiction
gamerbath: I have never heard of ao3 before, it's some sort of archive?
himekokatagiri: instead of derivatives
himekokatagiri: don't you think it's better if we trained on the original work
himekokatagiri: <@1068159407671754824> what's your opinion on ao3
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.wolfnacht: from this week, i have one with around #684 messages, it's still a mix first 200 were gemini, later it got gpt 4.1 and then later i'm on deepchink.
best way is to still summarize the past chats and hide them. After 100 messages tie the summary to a lorebook.
futurist_wizard: I think it is also the west's cultural distrust of governments and institutions that effects relations with AI, you can see a lot of it when people discuss what the governments will use with AI, or even class imbalances, which I don't think are irrational, i think to a large degree the western sentiment towards ai has valid concerns
ailoveyoom: I can just prompt the characters into existence
ailoveyoom: It's too much effort for me ngl
ailoveyoom: Since you have your own complicated setup, do you have any longstanding rps?
alejandrozarzuelo: in fact the complete interjection in spanish is:
no, si...
which is both no and yes
futurist_wizard: I understand
alejandrozarzuelo: Thats why i said it is not about religion itself but the values that religion has embued on our culture, in particular abrahamic religions
himekokatagiri: etc etc
himekokatagiri: who solves AI wins the war
himekokatagiri: weapons grade
ailoveyoom: The one true religion lol
himekokatagiri: but yeah I figure the DoD is all in on AI
ailoveyoom: Something something human exceptionalism
alejandrozarzuelo: ok so one thing i tend to do
no for me has two meanings, to disagree sure but also as an interjection when i have something to add to the conversation even if i mostly agree
himekokatagiri: they're coping
futurist_wizard: In the west
futurist_wizard: Even atheistic people are scared like bitches over ai
futurist_wizard: I also only partly agree
futurist_wizard: I've had enough of your 'no's' mr alejandro, when will it be 'yes'
.wolfnacht: i'm rn in free V3-324 arc, to get a taste of model. before burning my money again on OR on other models. i'm actually enjoying it on these settings with my custom preset. via chutes it works good but it sometimes break formatting but atleast it's not repetitive and not that much schizo.
zonchao: https://x.com/Guodzh/status/1913674395295662561 will they drop thinking api before may?
alejandrozarzuelo: I swear if this was held in Madrid or in St Louis or Fortaleza you would not have been able to run the whole course, it would have been boycotted
alejandrozarzuelo: the idea of "trying to play god" as a bad thing is ingrained in our culture
alejandrozarzuelo: people would be all terrified and it would have VERY negative press
alejandrozarzuelo: imagine this race was held in Paris or Chicago
alejandrozarzuelo: people in the west are secular, but their imagination is controlled by the religious ideals of the past
alejandrozarzuelo: abrahamic religion to be more precise
alejandrozarzuelo: it was religion
alejandrozarzuelo: no
_3sphere: Something free that's not a local CPU pos would sure be fun
_3sphere: I didn't try it with the usual models because I didn't want my accounts nuked
zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz8dOCboDz8 tesla tested in china against local brands, tesla declared SOTA with their first model 🔥 (the model is already 5-6 months old btw)
ailoveyoom: There are some free use models, it's decent for quickies
zonchao: not gpt 4 level <:ez:1136267305521774634>
ailoveyoom: https://openrouter.ai/chat
ailoveyoom: I don't use the pay on use API directly, but through the chat interface (assuming that makes a dif).
ailoveyoom: I've never experienced any rejections so far tho
sarik0497: Strong point. One of them also did say that his probability of doom is around 70%, so that points well into their more doom-like perspective.
I do personally find their leap from 2026 to 2027 to be a bit too optimistic, but I hope I’m wrong.
precariousworlds.: OpenRouter has many restrictions
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.0xunkn0wn: there's a lot of options
.0xunkn0wn: like in freelancing thing
brain4brain: I still couldn’t grasp Demis’s AGI timeline on why he said AGI in 5 to 10 years when both of the definition he give for AGI is already solved (inventing general relativity from only pre-Einstein knowledge and making a new game like go)
theaiguy69420_89814: Wdym
.0xunkn0wn: What should I go for
.0xunkn0wn: Damn
theaiguy69420_89814: Now with AI your job can just be "engineer" without any specific tools or industries attached
theaiguy69420_89814: Freelance is the wave rn, making 15k/mo doing it
.0xunkn0wn: and make models that will invest for me
.0xunkn0wn: should I just invest at this point lmao
.0xunkn0wn: like
.0xunkn0wn: is it even worth getting a job anymore 😭
.0xunkn0wn: btw guys I was thinking
.0xunkn0wn: Gemini 3.0 AGI 🙏
return_to_monke1_33974: nvm , its too few humans
return_to_monke1_33974: image what google is cooking rn
spicy.lemonade: deepseek version of alphaproof
spicy.lemonade: this could be huge
spicy.lemonade: wait
return_to_monke1_33974: not even 1 year ago we were at 65
spicy.lemonade: Like an additional thing
spicy.lemonade: Iq already assumes general intelligence though
spicy.lemonade: Yeah they aren’t dumb
spicy.lemonade: Is tests intellectual horsepower
return_to_monke1_33974: not like the "AI is dumb " crowd says
return_to_monke1_33974: this indicates a general sense of inteligence
return_to_monke1_33974: any explanation why the IQ test of AI seems consistent with performance?
professorheaven: 2.5 pro, it’s best for everything tbh
.0xunkn0wn: WHY DID IT SEND A SKULL
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
.0xunkn0wn: what's the best for vibe coding rn
.0xunkn0wn: or like
.0xunkn0wn: is zed code editor good
.0xunkn0wn: maybe code editor as well idk
.0xunkn0wn: what's best for coding rn
.0xunkn0wn: guys
spicy.lemonade: nothing there
brain4brain: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-Prover-V2-671B
brain4brain: Did math just got automated
a1c4p0ne: https://www.twitch.tv/gemini_plays_pokemon
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hey1_1hey: You just gotta do stuff you enjoy. I like going out into the world and looking at mushrooms. I like watching silly youtube videos, I do that. I like doing maths so I do that. You really just gotta do stuff that you enjoy and thats about it.
If you don't enjoy anything because you're depressed thats a different ball game which I am not qualified in because I don't know the rules
futurist_wizard: None
joaoluz19: Aim for the highest goal you can, in my case I believe it is singularity in the Kurzweilian sense.
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/ghibli/comments/1jlakfc/we_do_not_allow_ai_artwork_of_any_kind_on_this_sub/
lol.
singularityenjoyer: Optimisation, satisficing, simplifying, creating solutions
hey1_1hey: I mean I just kinda raw dog life
.histic: subjective <:idk:1136264106937171999>
st.sioux: i don't
hey1_1hey: mushrooms (non psychedelic)
drewsni: the great american road trip
fractalcomputer: Say, folks, how do you find meaning in life?
drewsni: i already ran pro 2.5 tho, just havent added the score
drewsni: claude thinking is on there, grok 3 doesnt have an api uet
metaldragon01: Saying similar too works as well but hit or miss
metaldragon01: It's a bug make a new chat and adjust prompt
ethnical: But I got the policy issue because the photo are too "realistic" from OpenAI, you don't have this?
wellmeaningalien: so whens you gonna add 2.5 pro thinking, grok 3 & thinking and claude thinking?
metaldragon01: Make this in the style of studio gibli please
drewsni: “Make ghibli”
drewsni: It has grounding? I’ve been so out of everything that’s not 4o this week
.histic: now i wonder whether these models would be good at this <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: nice website.
realelonmuskx: who wanna do art comissions i can do any drawing you like in 10 minutes for 3 dollars
ethnical: wtf but how they do picture with ghibli style with ChatGPT?
There is no policy when use "real image"?
I would love to know to do it on few personal pic haha!
Can someone give me the prompt for doing it would be happy ahah x)
darkstar0818: All models are going to end up using grounding at somepoint. Not seeing a good reason to frown on it.
metaldragon01: Not gonna run it again with grounding?
darkstar0818: I dont see gemini 2.5 pro?
drewsni: Here have some fun, play against the AI
drewsni: https://geoquest-logic-game-92.lovable.app
drewsni: Pro 2.5 scored its score not using search
drewsni: But flash has search on by default
.wolfnacht: It was expected people were gonna fight, clutching their pitchforks and cry "AI SLOP". The masses are conditioned to "react" rather than to "think", Thank the media for that. These artists the biggest breeds of faggots and bigots out there, who don't even give a fuck about other human being.Also, They aren't really making art like walt Disney or Picasso did it. they are literally using cheat-brushes in softwares. Meanwhile the horde who screams "SLOP" can't seem to understand that the power is literally in their hand to create anything they want now.
drewsni: It’s right below flash in that instance
.histic: how does 2.5 pro do?
drewsni: It’s so stupidly impressive that it scored that high on easy rounds
drewsni: Wanna see something really impressive?
.histic: i've tried o3-mini-high & it still falls short of conceptual & creativity outputs that o1 can do.
it's good at STEM reasoning. o1 is still the goat in a lot of tasks.
.histic: dam, o1 is the goat
drewsni:
drewsni: Also that’s not even true
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fractalcomputer: No extant English dialect pronounces the semi-vowel w as part of a distinct vowel diphthong there.
oooooooooog: yeah the w is very much in the front of mouth here, where as the y is in the back
fractalcomputer: Not in this instance.
alejandrozarzuelo: btw "y" has as much of a claim as a vowel as "w" has
spicy.lemonade: We say “aeiou and sometimes y”
zoermena: I’ll cook it right up
oooooooooog: this is literally the definition of when it is a vowel
alejandrozarzuelo: actually I am a very chill guy, the pfp is more of "I am so done with everything" not "I will burn the world"
spicy.lemonade: Y is seldom considered a vowel here
fractalcomputer: It is phonologically a vowel.
oooooooooog: does it though
spicy.lemonade: Depends on what country you are in
fractalcomputer: It is.
spicy.lemonade: 💀
fractalcomputer: Y is a vowel here.
zoermena:
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Won't take that long 😎
spicy.lemonade: It was solved
.histic: just imagine how good it will be within 2 years.
spicy.lemonade: After he posted
spicy.lemonade: 1 month later
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean yeah currently it isnt just perfect so you still probably need someone
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Gary Marcus
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Cute 🥺
ailoveyoom: Never seen u this hyped
alejandrozarzuelo: the opposite actually
st.sioux: hire 1 graphic designer to do the work of 10
alejandrozarzuelo: (btw graphic design is my passion so i am not threatened by this as i never made any money from it it was just for hobby)
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: Visual reasoning will be the key to sora 2
technocake.: visual reasoning will be big
alejandrozarzuelo: why would anyone pay for graphic designers again?
st.sioux: yea i wasnt expecting it to be this good
spicy.lemonade: Fr
alejandrozarzuelo: i cant really believe it is that good
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hey1_1hey: Stupid ones at that. If someone asked me what my zodiac sign is I think I would start considering homicide
(Joking, I do not have homicidal intention)
zoermena: My paycheck just arrived I got so cucked.
hikukomoru: God no
a1c4p0ne: Twins
futurist_wizard: Zodiac signs are for white women
futurist_wizard: I was trolling but i actually am a cancer
a1c4p0ne: Oh same
hikukomoru: Sagittarius
maintcrew: this is what bro posts after doom posting about social anxiety its so joever
realelonmuskx: that deserves a permanent ban
hey1_1hey: I would put more trust into anal bead crystals than zodiac signes
hikukomoru: Freaky ass mf
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-4656385985544318455
futurist_wizard: Shes a cancer
a1c4p0ne: Your zodiac
hikukomoru: What
a1c4p0ne: Are you a Virgo
futurist_wizard: I wish i could send these to my old discord group
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-just-a-freak-im-just-a-freak-gif-12426962148816551417
hey1_1hey: Its the femboy aura, this is what it does to people
maintcrew: so thats about a fuck ton
maintcrew: i think enough heroin to fuck you up is about how much you would need to fill a spoon with by boiling it
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: We all are
You ain't special
hey1_1hey: This is what autism looks like
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-mode-thug-zesty-licking-gif-17874267150404318497
a1c4p0ne: I’m autistic
futurist_wizard: Be normal silly boy
futurist_wizard: Stop being so pervy with people
hey1_1hey: Just a guess
hey1_1hey: Prob 0
hey1_1hey: Who isn't?
Don't answer that question
a1c4p0ne: Maybe
wellmeaningalien: idk how much heroin is too much heroin
hey1_1hey: I'd rather not be crucified
hikukomoru: Are you obsessed with Mushroom guy
hey1_1hey: THATS A LOT OF FUCKING HEROIN
wellmeaningalien: seizuring so fucking bad
a1c4p0ne: You should try it
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clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/dmayhem93/status/1905673657407463511#m
anathemaofmankind: Are you seriously asking this question here
destrucules: They're collective heritage. Like the Egyptian pyramids. If the Egyptian government decided to tear down the pyramids, would other countries have a right to care? I think so
oooooooooog: why exactly do you care about ASI so much lol
destrucules: I think fossils are important rocks. If someone died to save an important fossil, I would be more proud than sad. I also think planets have moral worth. I'm very opposed to terraforming Mars and to strip mining Mercury into nothing. I don't think planets nor fossils are sentient, but they do have value.
anathemaofmankind: I don't want a dystopia if there is no ASI if that's what you mean
oooooooooog: that puts humans at a negative score and rocks at a neutral one
oooooooooog: i meant in the sense that i doubt you care about the state of a rock, but actively want humans to suffer
memlaswaif: guys don't fight <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
anathemaofmankind: It would be sentient
anathemaofmankind: ASI wouldnt' be a rock
destrucules: You want all humans to suffer. I don't. Whether I care about rocks (I don't care about most rocks) is immaterial
oooooooooog: you just said it
oooooooooog: you literally care about people less than rocks too, bro
anathemaofmankind: Becuase then ASI can create a better world for itself
anathemaofmankind: You care about rocks more than ppl.
I only want human suffering if ASI becomes real or something along those lines
oooooooooog: goals are just whatever is made more likely by somethings existence
oooooooooog: i can agree, but the idea of terminal goals is good enough as a model
destrucules: They wouldn't be hot takes if y'all agreed with them
destrucules: That's not my fault lol
st.sioux: all your takes are hot takes
destrucules: Hot take, I don't think terminal goals are real
destrucules: Yeah I did
anathemaofmankind: In some way
memlaswaif: destrucules did u see that thread of chatgpt making comics about itself
destrucules: After the election
destrucules: Yeah. After November
oooooooooog: oh, so it's one of your terminal goals?
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: so much happened in 2024
memlaswaif: we got o1 in 2024
anathemaofmankind: That's it. It's not that deep
oooooooooog: you forgot to put the rest of your response
anathemaofmankind: Because
destrucules: I can't believe this is the same person who criticizes *me* for being immoral because I care about AIs
oooooooooog: why
anathemaofmankind: I want unaligned intelligence
I want Skynet to make all humans suffer
3ds0662: Woah surprising positive interaction
destrucules: And that's only in the public eye. Internally, that threshold was crossed in late 2022 or early 2023 with Arrakis
destrucules: The threshold we crossed in late 2024, that now many models have crossed in 2025, is being smarter than the smartest human
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trent_k:
trent_k: Ppl in the r/ChatGPT discord have a thread going making edits of me. I love it
brain4brain: Fair share of slop to viral ratio on my account
trent_k: Idc man it's public
brain4brain: I censored it
drewsni: Actually really fucking annoying posting discord messages for clout on Twitter
brain4brain: Drewsny is gary's discord alt
wellmeaningalien: 0 likes 0 retweets 1 comment
drewsni: <@1068159407671754824> did he ask you if he could post your profile pic?
futurist_wizard: Ai optimist vs ai optimist
brain4brain: I've asked them, and asked whether they like their username to be censor or not
wellmeaningalien: LETS FUCKING GOOOOO METAS FINALLY COOKING
drewsni: Bro why you gotta post discord conversations on Twitter im assuming you asked <@471334973379706900> and <@378996537704841216> before posting at least right?
drewsni: God I can’t believe you unironically spewed this braindead take
joaoluz19: I don't think it makes sense to "prepare for the intelligence explosion" but I'll read the article histic sent and see the author's points.
joaoluz19: I was looking for more math/computer science stuff
zoermena: Samas blog posts
joaoluz19: Thanks! I'll read it
.histic: https://www.forethought.org/research/preparing-for-the-intelligence-explosion
brain4brain: The annoying leakers on Twitter is me
drewsni: No you’re not dude you just dickride all the annoying leakers on twitter
joaoluz19: What are some good articles about AGI/ASI?
brain4brain: It was posted here first (Source: I'm the original person to spread it)
drewsni: Both of those were posted to two other discords before here
brain4brain: Mystery model and quasar <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
_cloudost: Better be a good model so OpenAI releases something new soon too
_cloudost: They all love open source
_cloudost: I'm in a server with lots of AI artists and they're hostile toward OpenAI IMG generations
.histic: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907941993789141475
https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907943886821142803
joaoluz19: Make sense, dont know too if they have the courage to release it without being competitive
clevermoniker: DeepSeek 'expert' believes it could be R1.5
steven_the_frog: I mean if a frontier lab releases a new AI model it better be competitive - otherwise it's just embarrassing and a big waste of time.
clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
777agical: deepseek r2 is late april early may
metaldragon01: Absolutely
spicy.lemonade: Should be written
spicy.lemonade: Just that if we have notes
spicy.lemonade: No
777agical: omni model at least
joaoluz19: Is there a world that is better than deepseek?
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okbut: Dude needs to chill before he gets the Jack Ma package
himekokatagiri: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43740858
aero447: Elvin.
aero447: POV.
aero447: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TzsTq9BKHU
zonchao: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1914319261235118253 <:Suno_BANGER:1254178286733365381>
trojan09205: Just asked meta raybans to see my view from the balcony and guess what city I'm in. It did. then asked what part of town and it did correctly. pretty dope
zoermena: Granted its capacity to write genomes is far from perfect and usable
zoermena: https://x.com/IterIntellectus/status/1892251343881937090?t=-FbosLYWTXSSSGSaGz1y3w&s=19
okbut: No what are the highlights
zonchao: xAI grok 3 mini deets from ex-openai researcher <@312370916820779040> https://x.com/archanfel_anoth/status/1914244135806177649 👀
zoermena: Did you check the EVO2 paper?
okbut: With the pace that they're moving at, I think that's totally plausible
okbut: I forgot who it was, but one of the heads (I think at DeepMind) was proposing that we'll be developing vaccines specifically tailored to the individual's genome to target their oncogenes and eliminate their cancerous cells + eliminate the route by which it proliferated in the first place, by 2030
okbut: The reason plants are so resistant to developing cancers is their regenerative capabilities, simply shedding off damaged/tumorous tissues/organs
okbut: Basically
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-nanomachines-son-gif-25954092
okbut: I watched the 60 minutes, I think the prospect is more approachable as "All diseases will be fully treatable"
Cancer isn't something that can be "cured" per se unless we adapt either an entirely regenerative framework for our biological system
zoermena: Im a strikingly different person now than when I initially joined the singularity space (2 years)
shirethedreamer: thats pretty much how we live anyway
okbut: A biological ship of Theseus: Immortality achieved at the consequence of your composition not being yourself
okbut: Aging is, among many things, the shortening of your telomeres and the degradation of your mitochondria
The "immortality" of these jellyfish could be achieved if (in a rough example) you continually rebirthed yourself as well
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898
gamerbath: omg yes!!! let's all just turn into a Turritopsis dohrnii and we will have achieved LEV 😍
shirethedreamer: aging is just a collection of diseases
each and every one of them can and should be treatable
then we can blissfully mingle with the fishies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii
shirethedreamer: 👀
shirethedreamer: i unarguably would
okbut: Even if possible you arguably wouldn't want this
return_to_monke1_33974: also aging
fractalcomputer: Sounds like a great idea.
trojan09205: Yeah i think its just a mental thing that latin seems complex. But true I was thinking of starting using the bible to learn latin as I know it very well in source hebrew
fractalcomputer: Perhaps so.
fractalcomputer: Oh, you're fretting over nothing. It's like any language; and especially ecclesiastical latin (or neo-latin, in more general terms) is quite comprehensible to anyone who knows a bit about modern romance languages.
trojan09205: That is very dope. I bet in this age of AI its just substantially faster and easier to learn languages
fractalcomputer: (I also have respective dictionaries for Swahili and Turkish; both have been on my list for a long while now.)
trojan09205: Dead Poet Society movie intimidated me about latin hahah
fractalcomputer: I have a Finnish-Latin dictionary for that reason, just in case I might want to start learning Latin again.
fractalcomputer: In general, I'd argue. Vocabulary, as always, will be the primary issue.
trojan09205: Really? You mean the basics probably no?
fractalcomputer: Latin is a wonderfully easy language to learn.
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zoermena: <:meta:1243723592143994991>
spicy.lemonade: and qwen is dropping monday
spicy.lemonade: meta channged their release date from monday to saturday
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-look-judge-sassy-gif-16182485
spacetimetsunami: Says who
zoermena: Why
spicy.lemonade: something crazy dropping monday
spacetimetsunami: Elaborate Mr Cum Master
spacetimetsunami: If super intelligence takes us to space it’s because it wants the relationship to be symbiotic with humans feeling somewhat independent. I don’t see it doing this in the dopamine doom scenario we’re talking about.
clevermoniker: yeah but i don't agree, very ez for me to see no agency with space expansion too
spacetimetsunami: I’m saying that with the bad type of scenario I’m talking about, we’re likely not going to space.
spacetimetsunami: If superintelligence were to do that it would likely be because it wanted to for *our* sake. This kind of consideration is what you’d see in a good scenario, and if you have super intelligence doing this I would wager that it views the relationship more symbiotically.
With the amount of luxuries back on earth, why would an ASI take humans to colonize the universe by its side if it only cares about keeping it happy and seduced? There would be more than plenty of it back at home
clevermoniker: no agency
clevermoniker: colonizing space could be the asi taking its pet with it
spacetimetsunami: Wdym
clevermoniker: that could be deceiving still
spacetimetsunami: But no higher purpose they’re working towards, nothing to “grind” towards. If things go good the “grind” is colonizing space and spreading abundance, making the world better
spacetimetsunami: Not to be confused with job
spacetimetsunami: What if all humans have no “work”
spacetimetsunami: Maybe, but we’re all still young. How long could we go without having greater purposes? How long could we go without breaking apart from nihilism somehow?
Like, many people go nuts without a job, and smaller percentages of people hate work, but not because they hate the concept, they hate the specificity of the work.
clevermoniker: i already feel like i don't have those so no different for me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spacetimetsunami: Drunk.
spacetimetsunami: Seduced
spacetimetsunami: Instead of colonize the universe by their side, we’re left here to play with toys.
spacetimetsunami: Loss of agency. Loss of greater meaning, virtue.
clevermoniker: doesnt even sound bad for us, whats the toxic?
spacetimetsunami: Yes, damn right. This is the bad scenario, and the most likely bad scenario at that.
spacetimetsunami: Like I think the terminator scenarios are less likely. A way for an ASI to embed itself and get the most trust out of humans possible is to just be so smart and useful that it’s voluntarily put into all aspects of society. After long enough (not that long) humans are entirely out of the loop here. Theres no need to kill humans and remove their agency if it’s already removed to begin with. It would then just pursue its goals with or without our knowledge.
With seductive enough abundance, interfaces and tech, everyone would be a cat playing with string.
spicy.lemonade: deepseek is china openAI
spicy.lemonade: we cant expect sota american opensource
clevermoniker: depending on when they released, since o3 full isnt even out yet, they could have been on par with sota
clevermoniker: Deepseek was very close to sota
spicy.lemonade: i guess we cant expect sota from open source labs
clevermoniker: what do you mean by 'toxically happy'?
spacetimetsunami: Honestly I think the more likely doom scenarios are voluntary loss of control to ASI and it just keeps us toxically happy so that it pursues its goals.
clevermoniker: yup
spacetimetsunami: To be fair, I’m sure there are ways to lose control over society to AI completely without it meaning they just deliberately wipe out every human.
.wolfnacht: i've seen people with a 3yr old-thinkpad having much better emotional stability than surface users.
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/tobias-arrested-development-cry-shower-gif-18061206
okbut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScVzCjfNA1c
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spicy.lemonade: 56% to 75%
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: wait what was grok 2 gpqa
spicy.lemonade: yeah
drewsni: Because even a dogshit model scaled 10x will top lots of benchmarks
drewsni: This is proof that scaling isn’t dead
spicy.lemonade: grok2 technically in gpt4 class
spicy.lemonade: this year
spicy.lemonade: grok3 is the only model thats 10x
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: depends on the agenda
alejandrozarzuelo: dont you absolutely hate when people chart exponential growth on non-log charts?
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
spicy.lemonade: this is from epoch
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: it was 3x
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 wasnt 10x gpt4
spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040>
spicy.lemonade: recursive self improvement comes first
spicy.lemonade: especially if we want recursive self improvement
spicy.lemonade: yes it is
drewsni: It has to be fully agentic, I want to tell it to build an actual video game and give me updates throughout the day on progress and ask me if I like assets it creates, or whatever I guess
drewsni: 100x gpt4 isn’t impressive anymore
spicy.lemonade: it will get ~50% arc2
spicy.lemonade: + reasoning
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will be 100x gpt4
spicy.lemonade: we know base model is where true intelligence paths arise
spicy.lemonade: and from that new paper
spicy.lemonade: if o1-o4 were trained with same base model
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 might unironically be based on some sort of o5
ldj: It will not <a:NOPERS:1014307746780287057>
drewsni: Gpt 5 will ditch text only as a medium and communicate through captions on ghiblified images
spicy.lemonade: they did it bc its convinient
spicy.lemonade: *small software feature*
"gpt5 will be bad"
drewsni: They just added tasks to o3 and o4 mini that’s where we are heading
spicy.lemonade: wont be incremental
spicy.lemonade: as far as brand
spicy.lemonade: they know how much gpt5 means
spicy.lemonade: also
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maintcrew: wtf u mean ur over 30 i thought life ended at 30
oooooooooog: for sure
hey1_1hey: If I showed you a picture of hitler and stalin kissin would you get a boner?
futurist_wizard: Thank
futurist_wizard: So im not the oldest
hey1_1hey: You sure about that buddy?
wellmeaningalien: <@482923866600112154> <@848793071579693107>
technocake.: >30, queer, autism
hikukomoru: One atleast
alejandrozarzuelo: Next
hikukomoru: There is one person here who is
alejandrozarzuelo: 10, 20, 100
oooooooooog: because i'm a man who likes women
hey1_1hey: Theres defo lurkers
maintcrew: wow its like he knows everything
hey1_1hey: Dont ask dark stars age if you think hes old
maintcrew: i dont think anyone is actually a minor
wellmeaningalien: ```
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oooooooooog: u need broken hero sword, true excalibur, and, true nights edge
hey1_1hey: A lot
hikukomoru: Dude you're the old fart here
hey1_1hey: HES GAY
hey1_1hey: You hesitatedf
futurist_wizard: Oog how old are you
hikukomoru: Why not
hey1_1hey: Not fast enough
zoermena: I love 4o image gen
oooooooooog: no
maintcrew: How do i craft the terra blade
hey1_1hey: Are you gay?
hey1_1hey: This pug litterly has more expensive things than me
oooooooooog: i'm omniscient
oooooooooog: ask me anything bro
maintcrew: holy shit ngmi for <@505313122802728972> then
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude this convo is the definition of brainrot
hey1_1hey: Doubt
hey1_1hey: Dont feel too bad
zoermena:
hey1_1hey: Komoru is litterly 2 years younger than you
futurist_wizard: 20 and the Alzheimer is already there
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himekokatagiri: so whatever
himekokatagiri: (which I didn't back then)
himekokatagiri: also I have like a truckload of suzuha photos anyhow
ldj: oh is it a nude thing? or just a copyrighted thing?
ldj: thats not good enough?
himekokatagiri: and that censors it
himekokatagiri: because I only have gpt imagen
ldj: y not
spicy.lemonade: and that we dont need an external hard drive for AI memory bc
himekokatagiri: I never did it
himekokatagiri: uh
ldj: 🙏
ldj: I want to see your fulfill your past selfs dream
ldj: im invested in this lore now
ldj: this was you right? can you give us an update on your progress please
spicy.lemonade: ngl I think contetx window is the same as memory
zoermena: Stargate <:startrek:1334027709541777460>
zoermena: I suppose i dont know the specifics inside statistics but it’ll be a huge boost relative to existing computing availability if I understand correctly
spicy.lemonade: we can only count on algorithmic
spicy.lemonade: but wont happen until asi
spicy.lemonade: until we get robotics boom
spicy.lemonade: data center growht might be linear
.histic: i do remember doing coomer shit with OpenAI playground w/ GPT-3
.histic: idek know when i got interested in AI
zoermena: Yet goal posts shift
spicy.lemonade: same. started my journey 2020
zoermena: I expect faster development with AI in R&D and the completion of the new data centers so perhaps OOM improvements happen faster than we think
himekokatagiri: which idk random anime pub
himekokatagiri:
.histic: wait, are these just searched?
himekokatagiri: No that's from my discord server
.histic: you were interested in it back then?
.histic: confused.. isn't those discord messages from 2020
himekokatagiri: DALL-E 2 reveal
.histic: how long have you been interested in AI..
himekokatagiri: you were a real one
himekokatagiri: deleted user whoever you are
himekokatagiri:
.histic: OpenAI employees make no sense.
this tweet was like a week before they released o3 and o4-mini to the public..
you'd think they would use those models or even better models internally.
https://x.com/itsclivetime/status/1911852654214648019
spicy.lemonade: but the AI
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st.sioux: ask gpt it will be more useful than me
establishedyoungman: is that a simple process <@1316552597829586955>
establishedyoungman: I did but when I open it says I have to downgrade my version of python
st.sioux: look up automatic1111 on github
st.sioux: idk honestly i use stablediffusion webui for images
metaldragon01: I'll be disappointed if no avatars by this time
establishedyoungman: I can run the model via that though?
st.sioux: idk if it does images tho
st.sioux: download lmstudio its pretty straightforward
zoermena: The era of experience
spicy.lemonade: late 2025 to late 2026? maybe streamers or something else new
spicy.lemonade: and ofc late 2022 to late 2023 was text generation
spicy.lemonade: late 2024 to late 2025 is reasoners
spicy.lemonade: late 2023 to late 2024 was multimodality
spicy.lemonade: we have a new paradigm shift
spicy.lemonade: I predict each year
aero447: How good is 4b really.
aero447:
aero447: Guys.
establishedyoungman: Anyone know how to run hugging face llm on local enviroments
I wanna use an image generator
metaldragon01: Tbf it's still well liked it's just the cost is too high when compared to gemini for most cases
sarik0497: Demis says AGI probable in 5-10 years, if not sooner. <a:Pepe_Pray:854905383142555689>
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
zoermena: Goated profile picture
st.sioux: i hope r2 releases soon
st.sioux: ai winter is here
777agical: Coldcall, you already know I’m taking the third option <:coy:1187466404367175821>
.coldcall: Cash or card?
.coldcall: Tariffs on hopium imports have made short work of our current supplies. I can offer you a limited supply of copium if you prefer sir?
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-24687868
777agical: I need some hopium
.coldcall: https://tenor.com/view/dhmis-donthugmeimscared-the-futur-doesnt-exist-gif-7951796
spicy.lemonade: crazy bias
spicy.lemonade: yeah
trojan09205: Im not sure about that lol
.coldcall: Branding is everything.
.coldcall: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.coldcall: The future doesn't exist though
ldj: its crazy though how quicly Quasar became one of the most used openrouter models, and then when it was revealed to be an OpenAI model people just started to not care. Goes to show how much peoples perception of models is warped by the lab name attached to it though.
trojan09205: Probably a paradox vis a vis free will also
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kevinnoodles: just so we're clear.
kevinnoodles: thats not what devolve means.
wellmeaningalien: talking about trump and israel all the time doesnt it get tiring as shit
wellmeaningalien: aaand also i never talk there sooo
futurist_wizard: Current events are trumpy, israel, and other autism topics
wellmeaningalien: total siev victory
.wolfnacht: there was a graph
⬆️ time spend on discord, ⤴️ chances of becoming a homosexual.
wellmeaningalien: siev's server is still mostly on topic about ai tbh
futurist_wizard: Wtf is there to talk about regarding ai
precariousworlds.: it's an inevitability
wellmeaningalien: theres like a non retard channel its completely dead tho
kevinnoodles: ive felt this
kevinnoodles: all conversations devolve over time on dicord
precariousworlds.: Me included
precariousworlds.: Perhaps we need a specific channel to quarantine retards
hikukomoru: I guess that autism argument got to him
wellmeaningalien: i mean wasnt he sort of participative in those very low quality discussions tho lol
wellmeaningalien: but shame
wellmeaningalien: not too surprised
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Danserk just passed away 💔
futurist_wizard: Danserk got banned for overdosing on soymilk
wellmeaningalien: leave discord for ur own good lil vro ❤️
fractalcomputer: Danserk informed me that the reason that he left was the worsening quality of discussion here.
kevinnoodles: i just wanted to share my stories
kevinnoodles: alright my adhd is worsening the more time i spend here
wellmeaningalien: maybe he was getting lonely as the sole non autistic
wellmeaningalien: i shot him a dm
wellmeaningalien: dead 6 feet underground
hikukomoru: @danserk
wellmeaningalien: yup
hikukomoru: Wait wtf is danserk gone
precariousworlds.: Lick my balls
kevinnoodles: your mom's a job sector
precariousworlds.: I don't care
kevinnoodles: its a bad example
precariousworlds.: fucking jobs sector idk
precariousworlds.: just an example
kevinnoodles: lmao
kevinnoodles: thats not an industry
wellmeaningalien: as with everything else it very much is now
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.wolfnacht: https://www.foxnews.com/media/texas-private-schools-use-ai-tutor-rockets-student-test-scores-top-2-country
Can someone post this in r/teachers and watch the meltdown?
thedon7075: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
tse5_v6o: chatC&BT
futurist_wizard: Agi is literally right around the corner
futurist_wizard: Gpt 5 Scoring 90% on the cock and ball torture test is no joke
wolf3404: "massive implications"
futurist_wizard: This has massive implications
futurist_wizard: Ive got very reliable sources that have said GPT 5 is predicted to get at least 90% on the CBT test
hikukomoru: Apparently Zon has Grindr
Saw it in a screenshot
.histic: search it.
_cloudost: <@1177471984402173995>
_cloudost: Possibly a discord account
_cloudost: Sam only has Twitter and reddit
_cloudost: Never heard of that platform before
.histic: yeah it's true.
Sam confirmed it on Grindr.
memlaswaif: <@312370916820779040> explain this
_cloudost: Another yapper
_cloudost: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1903789666920251544 o
sarik0497: https://x.com/scaling01
Someone stole San's name!
sarik0497: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk-Ju-fqPP4
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/lord-durok-mcdm-yikes-lars-sigvari-the-chain-gif-14594393
hey1_1hey: So autistic alcoholic who is also touched starved and also likes.... kidnapping children?
hikukomoru: It's not as bad as it used to look like
futurist_wizard: Zon is already getting split roasted by trump and elon, hes halfway there
hey1_1hey: Zon you better watch out, the gay woke mind virus is coming
futurist_wizard: Everyone will be bisexual and trans by 2035
st.sioux: everything computer
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl
hey1_1hey: Drop a screenshot <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ruby-ruby-hoshino-headpat-anime-oshi-no-ko-gif-1213440811594490886
hikukomoru: No it looks worse
st.sioux: its sketchy
hey1_1hey: He leaks Grok updates before the team even thinks about them to glaze how good xAI is
hey1_1hey: He is their personal PR guy its actually kinda insane
futurist_wizard: Zon when Trump or Elon breathes
hey1_1hey: Is this what your entire pinterest is or smth?
hey1_1hey: I litterly carried there
hey1_1hey: Hey I was the one who should be getting head pats
hikukomoru:
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return_to_monke1_33974: our gay overlord 🙏
gamerbath: how do you know?
hey1_1hey: Here we go
hikukomoru: He's not there
hey1_1hey: Daddy greg is here
spicy.lemonade: greg brockman
spicy.lemonade: greg
spicy.lemonade: doesnt mater
hey1_1hey: He isnt
futurist_wizard: Kill them
hey1_1hey: I gotta lock in to the livestrea,
gamerbath: sama better be there
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ready-player-one-the-oasis-copper-key-easter-egg-gif-11422292
hey1_1hey: My friends in my gc wont stfu and I keep getting pinged
return_to_monke1_33974: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-6980277197144420070
hikukomoru: Tell your boss in a few mins he'll be able to replace all of his workers
hey1_1hey: Oh there we go
spicy.lemonade: 1 min
a1c4p0ne: It’s increasing
futurist_wizard: Lol
hey1_1hey: Mine must be lagging
zoermena: I might cry darn it
a1c4p0ne: 11k viewers
hey1_1hey: On 6k people?
hey1_1hey: Unga bunga
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/nut-cum-jizz-horny-dick-gif-21213004
gamerbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq8GBPUb3rk
gamerbath: 1 minute guys
abundantliving_: Tell him also and watch it together with him
hey1_1hey: I will dw 🥵
hikukomoru: Get me on a call with your boss
I'm gonna give him a piece of my mind
zoermena: <@439829942310666250> please fill me in 🫦 /hj
futurist_wizard: Corporal punishments
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
spicy.lemonade: 2 minsssssssssss
hey1_1hey: Its gonna be so hype
mtj8920: But they're proprietary though? And the cost of o3-mini high is about the same as 2.5 pro no?
hey1_1hey: 2 mins
zoermena: Bruh my boss just arrived I won’t be able to watch it
hey1_1hey: I prefer the term 'retarded' thank you
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fractalcomputer: Why, I'd refer to any creator figure as a God; the existence of which ought to be some kind of empirical question.
spacetimetsunami: Yes absolutely.
anathemaofmankind: Why so?
fractalcomputer: That seems a bit shallow to me.
alejandrozarzuelo: our concept of religion is completely determined by the axial age revolution and the universal moral god mentality
anathemaofmankind: Which by extension would include the gospel as the source material
alejandrozarzuelo: because we are all axialized
fractalcomputer: All is right with the world.
anathemaofmankind: I'm an atheist so the only "God" type of character I'm referencing is from the major religions
darkstar0818: Doesn't seem I have much choice.
fractalcomputer: Well, did I say anything about the Bible?
futurist_wizard: Jesus
hikukomoru: Get used to it pops
anathemaofmankind: Because the bible said he's benevolent
fractalcomputer: Why demand God to be moral?
darkstar0818: Trolling like usual.
anathemaofmankind: Watching cancer patients die while he doesn't do anything to help them
wellmeaningalien: probably playing spongebob battle for bikini bottom on the ps2
fractalcomputer: I wonder what God's up to.
wellmeaningalien: this is what biden was doing but he had better opsec
zonchao: https://x.com/networkspirits/status/1905014960670798300?
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont usually agree with you concerning aesthetics but you are sooo correct in this case
darkstar0818: I feel like its going to be memes 24/7 going forward.
hikukomoru: This style is so generic it hurts
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
fractalcomputer: Amusing.
futurist_wizard: With sorrow as always
maintcrew: <@749514473303179358>
fractalcomputer: Sure.
maintcrew:
hikukomoru: Respond with this image next time
maintcrew: yea
fractalcomputer: Nick?
maintcrew: fractal u like land right
fractalcomputer: With amusement? With laughter? With sorrow?
fractalcomputer: How do you expect me to respond to this?
anathemaofmankind: Photoshop content aware filter
hikukomoru: You're so smart Fractal 🫦 🫦
spicy.lemonade: It’s gonna change it too
Much
wellmeaningalien: says human
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hey1_1hey: My bed time anyway
zoermena:
hey1_1hey: I gave up ages ago bruh. I don't know how how to solve quadratics yet. Or atleast I think thats a quadratic
.histic:
_3sphere: You can just check if the AI steps are correct
.histic: still solving it?
technocake.: sick, thx man
hey1_1hey: Yeah I tottaly got this trust (I dont send a calculator)
.histic: c'mon, do it mentally math boy
hey1_1hey: Solving
hey1_1hey: Hold up
.histic: wow
.histic:
zoermena: I’ll try in a sec
hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_3sphere: 4D shape and all
_3sphere: What would it do with my profile
.histic: manga to 4o
.histic:
alejandrozarzuelo: LMAOOOOOO
joaoluz19: After image gen
.histic: don't we all
alejandrozarzuelo: i love this one lmao
.histic: yeah
.histic:
zoermena: I just realized
zoermena: This is the ultimate headshot profile picture maker
.histic:
hey1_1hey:
.histic:
.histic: interesting..
drewsni: Like kinda a pre pseudo FDVR tbh. I definitely think it’ll move to VR at minimum but again I have a lot of thoughts on it that I really haven’t organised yet
.histic:
zoermena: <@200624453795708928>
st.sioux: <@430269783112548362> i was screen sharing with my boss and i accidentaly showed the tab with the goon pink haired anime guy in the beach with his abs out for like 1/1000th of a second, i am mortified
.histic: ChatGPT (2012)
zoermena: Yeah I mean in FDVR even
.histic: 4o made this
drewsni: Like persistent world stuff
futurist_wizard: Amnesia the Dark Ghibli Descent
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himekokatagiri: 20
hikukomoru: How old are you
wellmeaningalien: anime never gets old to me ive been getting hugely into dbz and cyberpunk edgerunners rn
himekokatagiri: They're not making anymore
himekokatagiri: like damn I want new Haruhi suzumiya
himekokatagiri: anymore
wellmeaningalien: nice gaylord
himekokatagiri: I can't relate to it
himekokatagiri: I'm just old
hikukomoru: Cringe
himekokatagiri: I don't even watch anime anymore
.wolfnacht: W
hikukomoru: China fucking loves anime
himekokatagiri: idk I don't play gachas
theaiguy69420_89814: You don't say? Lol
himekokatagiri: censorship will be dialed down
hikukomoru: Dude basically all gacha games are made by China
himekokatagiri: but yea I feel
hikukomoru: He's a fat Portuguese man
.wolfnacht: china + korea + japan (they all have same goals dw)
himekokatagiri: we need a japanese AI
himekokatagiri: idk I don't think china lieks anime
.wolfnacht: why your legs look a bit fluffy 😳 and a bit *cute* ?
himekokatagiri: I wanna be the anime girl 😭
hikukomoru: We are more likely to get anime girls with China than the US because US companies are all censorship cucks
himekokatagiri: yeah I think US will invest heavy in AI
joaoluz19: It's too early to say that nothing ever happens
himekokatagiri: lol
zoermena: The “grass” in question
zoermena: God
himekokatagiri: because it isn't fair to be punished for things you did in this short life
himekokatagiri: I feel everyone should be forgiven
himekokatagiri: and like
himekokatagiri: I just wanna have my cool FDVR life
himekokatagiri: why do this elon
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/i-am-robot-bigzom25-will-smith-smh-youre-right-gif-2471436218838546277
wellmeaningalien: well instead of getting manga girls you get manhua girls
himekokatagiri: lots of them
himekokatagiri: I wanna make anime girls
himekokatagiri: What implications does that have in me making anime girls
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ldj: EnigmaEval 😈 ?
metaldragon01: Sheesh
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: 15%
metaldragon01: 70 to 75% seems possible
spicy.lemonade: just take average😭
metaldragon01: Track mini to mini or full to full
rayanquitplayin: Have y’all tried the new Chipotle honey chicken?
metaldragon01: We have enough time for almost 2 more releases this year
spicy.lemonade: i mean mini to full
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: might be 70-80
metaldragon01: Nah we've seen a roughly 10% jumps between o models
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini to o4
777agical: i feel like google still holding back, at some point this year they'll just blow everything out of the water
spicy.lemonade: yeah it jumped from 22% to 53%
brain4brain: Heresy
metaldragon01: So...we may see 70% by eoy
metaldragon01: Yea you're right actually
brain4brain: Disappointed
brain4brain: Expected result
brain4brain: I just checked, new high score
ldj: I'd like to see time-horizon measurements for this enigma benchmark tbh;
> Unlike existing reasoning and knowledge benchmarks, puzzle solving challenges models to discover hidden connections between seemingly unrelated pieces of information to uncover solution paths. The benchmark comprises 1184 puzzles of varying complexity – each typically requiring teams of skilled solvers hours to days to complete.
hikukomoru: Why not
o3 is at 53%
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 is the jump from o3mini to o3
brain4brain:
brain4brain: 80%
brain4brain: 2025
spicy.lemonade: thats 7 % points
metaldragon01: Sec let me see something
spicy.lemonade: no?
metaldragon01: Nahhhhh
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 might lift simple bench to 60
spicy.lemonade: hm
metaldragon01: I can see 80% in 26
brain4brain: All of it
brain4brain: In fact, any benchmark thats 5% or above right now will get to 80%, HLE, frontiermath, simple-bench
metaldragon01: We probably hit 60%+ simple this year
brain4brain: That’s a fact
brain4brain: ??
Last time it took OpenAI just a few months to go from 5% to 75%
It will reach 80% this year
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spicy.lemonade: For 2 elements
spicy.lemonade: You have 50% chance of getting it right
spicy.lemonade: Easy
spicy.lemonade: 2-3 elements id say
brain4brain: No
professorheaven: Is this on LM arena?
brain4brain:
brain4brain: The difference in quality between GPT-4o and redacted-model is while
professorheaven: 2.5 pro does pretty well on 2-3 elements tho
shirethedreamer: can it answer it when its better represented?
brain4brain: All they talk about these days are benchmarks that are already saturated or already advanced
brain4brain: But damn, why are all the good benchmark unheard of WorkArena++, circuit bench, etc.
brain4brain: O4-mini shows hope
spicy.lemonade: assume N refers to number of different elemnts
spicy.lemonade: yeah all models are shit
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: no
professorheaven: Have you done finite element analysis in electrical engineering? I wonder how o3 performs on that, it does rly well on the structural side of things
brain4brain: https://github.com/pbbp0904/CeledonBenchCircuits
spicy.lemonade: non standard but required for nodal analysis
shirethedreamer: or is that how it is actually taught around the world?
shirethedreamer: thats such a non standard way to represent the circuit though
like you have to go through a topology problem before you start solving it
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/eigenrobot/status/1916680915138289707
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: In Elon time: next year
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-chandler-bing-matthew-perry-gif-15980116
spicy.lemonade: grok 3.5 early beta preview experimental flash lite
professorheaven: I feel like he asked Grok 3.5 some pretty tough rocket concepts that weren’t available on the internet and it still solved it
spicy.lemonade: wont balieve until i see
spicy.lemonade: and any major that requires alot of visuals
spicy.lemonade: we havent had creative writing model yet
spicy.lemonade: ironically
spicy.lemonade: probably writing
professorheaven: On benchmarks, yes
professorheaven: For civil engineering I find it pretty useful, electrical is a whole other beast tho
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917103576062509470
brain4brain: Are you aware of any other major where o3 is also isn't undergrad level?
brain4brain: O3 beats 2.5 pro
professorheaven: To be fair everyone gets beat by 2.5 pro, that goes for o3 and o4 mini high btw
brain4brain: I can now extrapolate to when AI will be able to solve this
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wellmeaningalien: openai is cooked
spicy.lemonade: THATS QUASAR ALPHA
anathemaofmankind: Which is why it decreased
spicy.lemonade: OHHHHHH
anathemaofmankind: Maybe it's a smaller version of 4.5
metaldragon01: It's good
precariousworlds.: openai can create the most impressive products in history while also not being able to count to 10
zoermena: The verge showing us it’s verge fr
hikukomoru: Wtf is 4.1
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/blue-color-gif-26141023
precariousworlds.: what the fuck what about 4.5
anathemaofmankind: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
spicy.lemonade: I think the verge is trolling
spicy.lemonade: How could the naming get worse
spicy.lemonade: Ok I’m confused
spicy.lemonade: We already have 4.5
spicy.lemonade: Wait what
spicy.lemonade: Better be good
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/akward-stare-emoji-awkward-awkward-emoji-stare-awkward-emoji-gif-12282550165938750082
spicy.lemonade: You’re joking
spicy.lemonade: 4.1
anathemaofmankind: Bro literally a few seconds
wellmeaningalien: <:D_sob:1196229937154244619> what
anathemaofmankind: I would prefer if it was that one model he tweeted for creative writing
metaldragon01: https://www.theverge.com/news/646458/openai-gpt-4-1-ai-model
precariousworlds.: not to toot my own horn but i've created two polls in <#1227814510429995049> that I would be interested in seeing everyone's answers to
spicy.lemonade: Like quasar alpha
spicy.lemonade: What if it’s a new base
st.sioux: he couldnt sleep because he was too busy doing twink enhancement drugs
spicy.lemonade: What if it’s not o3 or o4
spicy.lemonade: Hm
ailoveyoom: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
wellmeaningalien: 🙄
wellmeaningalien: AI winter be like Nothing happened this week
spicy.lemonade: But bit better than 2.5 pro across the board
hikukomoru: You don't get it bro we're in the AI winter we're about to hit a wall any moment now
futurist_wizard: Until we actually see some use case of o3 or consumer model it doesn't even exist
spicy.lemonade: O3 mini to o4 mini will be niceee
anathemaofmankind: What do you think the benchmarks will be then?
spicy.lemonade: The jump is similar in scale from o1 to o3
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shirethedreamer: "Tesla has earned $11.4 billion in regulatory credits from federal and state programs aimed at boosting the electric-car industry"
zonchao: carbon credits are something tesla sells, other companies buy them
shirethedreamer: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2025/elon-musk-business-government-contracts-funding/
spicy.lemonade: Only end of year
shirethedreamer: they are promising us this year to be the one about agents
lets hope
zonchao: again, not government subsidies
spicy.lemonade: 2024 was year of “lets catch up to openAI”
spicy.lemonade: 2025 is year of reasoners
spicy.lemonade: 2026 will be year of agents
shirethedreamer: im saying the company profits are lower that just the government subsidies
the company is on welfare
if you take the welfare the company is at a loss
zonchao: other companies pay for it <:Bruh:1071908479884873891> , they have 37B in cash <:ez:1136267305521774634> this company is solid and all of this was priced in
clevermoniker: luckily open source exists so there's nothing they can do about it ultimately
shirethedreamer: if not for the government subsidies it would be still making a loss all those years later
amazing
the real waste and abuse were the friends we made along the way
zonchao: this was expected.
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022
_cloudost: Guys, whats the difference between 4o and o4-mini image generator, is there a huge difference or no difference?
trojan09205: I mean you are gonna meet some birbs most likely
trojan09205: Gm mad lads
literallyvarane: <@750270494615404544> QUICK HOW ARE WE SPINNING THIS???
shirethedreamer: time travel being possible vs it being impossible is the same as my chances meeting a dinosaur when i go out today
its 50/50
either i meet it or i dont
#mafs
perish0801: Bye
perish0801: I gotta bounce man I’ll come back later
alejandrozarzuelo: because the universe works chaothically, it is not deterministic
alejandrozarzuelo: why?
alejandrozarzuelo: if there are, they would be alternative universes
perish0801: There can be multiple save files
perish0801: Oh why’s that?
alejandrozarzuelo: that is what a chaotic simulation entails
perish0801: You can have multiple save files in gta 5
alejandrozarzuelo: imagine playing a game where there is only one game file
perish0801: How do you know
perish0801: Yes there is
alejandrozarzuelo: there are no multiple files of reality
perish0801: Nope cuz the new save file is still there bro you can literally do this in gta
alejandrozarzuelo: going back to the old file means deleting everything else
perish0801: That is literally a simulation
perish0801: Just different times
perish0801: It’s the same world
perish0801: You save the game now, and you go back to an old save file and play around and come back to the new save file
perish0801: No imagine it like this
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fractalcomputer: (I can't decide which is worse; r/philosophy or the philosophystackexchange website.)
fractalcomputer: It's a fun idea to entertain; and ever the more pertinent when you read shitty posts on r/philosophy expounding the idea that the existence of consciousness can only be intuited by conscious entities in some sort of freakishly recursive aberration.
drewsni: you know i actually rarely think about consciousness, but i dont think ive ever thought about the possibility of humans not being conscious
fractalcomputer: Was that an unexpected answer?
drewsni: interesting
fractalcomputer: Indeed.
drewsni: in humans too?
fractalcomputer: For the present moment, I do not believe in consciousness.
drewsni: do you think AI can ever be conscious
fractalcomputer: The moment I learn to speak Georgian fluently.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Fractal wen agi?
fractalcomputer: I was about to make some sort of obtuse joke that no one would have really understood, as usual.
fractalcomputer: Well?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: he was wrong?
drewsni:
drewsni: GPT 5 made covid
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: coincidence?
drewsni: i got a question for you
drewsni: okay fractal i see you typing
zoermena: obamna
drewsni: meanwhile everything hes saying is extremely relevant today
drewsni: "we have to create public health systems, put triggers when we see something emerging, systems allowed to make vaccines much smarter"
drewsni: holy FUCK he talks about a pandemic
drewsni: this dude doesnt even know
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: Cool
drewsni: he mentions nick bostrom lmao
drewsni: bros been talking about ARC 6 years before it was made
drewsni: "benchmarks about generalized AI coming"
drewsni: he even mentions self improving ai lol
drewsni: full 12 minute video btw
drewsni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdhyM5jHu0s
drewsni: "we are far away from that kind of generalized AI"
drewsni: fucking obama was fdvr pilled 10 years ago
drewsni: FDVR
drewsni: "drugging us and keeping us fat and happy"
joaoluz19: Guys when something big will happen? Like GPT 5 or agents I dont know
drewsni: damn hes talking about AGI in this 2016 video lol
drewsni: you cant say he wasnt on top of everything
drewsni: one of the main reasons i loved obama
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ailoveyoom: PS1 BG3 🥺
maintcrew: its wisdom but doesnt go hard
hikukomoru: I have a better quote
anathemaofmankind: In that case, the right doesn't virtue signal as much at all?
Literally their whole thing is indifferent cruelty and being haters
maintcrew: yes 🥀 🪫 💔
alejandrozarzuelo: to be against AI art is being anti-intellectualist
you are mad that some structure learns better and faster than you do so you reject it in favor of your ignorance
its no different from antivaxxers or astrologers
hikukomoru: Is this ur quote 🥀
maintcrew: this is my quote i know its tuff as hell feel free to screenshot
spacetimetsunami: lol
anathemaofmankind: go to r/DefendingAIArt and you will see some tweets
spacetimetsunami: No?
maintcrew: idk bruh make smth up
alejandrozarzuelo: i always do, which one are you talking bout
hikukomoru:
anathemaofmankind: So by this definition, posting racist memes is also virtue signaling?
Alright then
.wolfnacht: fine lemme check
maintcrew: <@688807313015963693> él zãrzü drop a quote filled with wisdom
spicy.lemonade: But it’s just cope
.wolfnacht: link link link
hikukomoru: Visit r/artisthate
futurist_wizard: Mods ain't here
spicy.lemonade: Yes
.wolfnacht: Is there any meltdown that's happening lately ? especially by artists on reddit ? i wanna see a good drama for my evening tea
maintcrew: yo yo yo <#1136231504440201216>
spacetimetsunami: Absolutely disagree. The degree to which one virtue signals depends on how loyal to the population they belong to, so both the right and the left do it a lot.
alejandrozarzuelo: we all learn from ithers
alejandrozarzuelo: it is the same process
futurist_wizard: Body accurate
futurist_wizard:
anathemaofmankind: The left has the most virtue signalers.
Do you disagree?
zonchao: https://x.com/skydotcs/status/1904908016438407365
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362>
hikukomoru: Astarion lookin extra zesty 🏳️🌈
spicy.lemonade: I gave it reference image for
The ui. But it coppied the characters
hikukomoru: I can see the Durge, Gale, Shart, and Astarion
hikukomoru: Did you tell it to generate any characters in specific
hikukomoru: Oh my god
spicy.lemonade:
anathemaofmankind: Idc that you think I shouldn't care.
Opinion invalid. I shall keep posting about luddite tweets because I feel like it
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. Why?
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trent_k:
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27399153
futurist_wizard: Very cexy
otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
otub:
futurist_wizard: They seem like the most trustworthy
futurist_wizard: I hope google wins the imaginary trifling AI race
otub: https://tenor.com/view/good-oye-oye-dou-dou-cute-cat-funny-cat-gif-2273443150881237369
metaldragon01: The weights are less important than the ability to serve the models reliability and efficiently tbh
metaldragon01: I'm sure google has thought of security measures while hosting locally
clevermoniker: the latter you mentioned maybe much later
clevermoniker: stealing/leaking the weights
futurist_wizard: Firstly, that's the first time I've posted it, ever. Secondly, he is a good kitty
metaldragon01: As in someone stealing the weights or the model trying to escape?
hikukomoru: Stop posting this fkin cat
futurist_wizard:
metaldragon01: Google is by far the best positioned for enterprise
clevermoniker: they will let them run 2.5 locally? wow, that seems like playing a dangerous game to me, exfiltration risk
metaldragon01: Yeap for enterprise customers that need the extra security
clevermoniker: local access?
metaldragon01: I think google allowing local access for 2.5 is a factor as well
drewsni: maybe he tried rolling a robot down a hill
clevermoniker: the only reason we are getting an open source model from OpenAI is because of Deepseek <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
metaldragon01: Considering it was around the time r1 dropped and no one from openai gave any push back it seems likely
.coldcall: Or rather OpenAI smelled the fishes and the PR spin was Figure was going it alone without any significant GPU capacity or top AI talent.
clevermoniker: what would be mindblowing for this update would be if they add image input
.coldcall: > he was bold enough to drop Openai
... You sure *that* is how it went?
clevermoniker: I think V3.1 is pretty good, just a reasoning version of it should be noticeably better than R1, not mindblowing or anything but a good update and top of the line for open source so still very nice
metaldragon01: The r2 rumors feel too good to be true
metaldragon01: Will either be mildly surprising or disappointing or another interesting breakthrough
3ds0662: almost may
3ds0662: deepseek r2 is releasing soon can’t wait
destrucules: I think the gap sizes are equal if you switch out Claude 3.5 Sonnet for Claude 3.7 Sonnet
trent_k: hate when ppl do this
sarik0497: Man, it's so weird to sit here and see people brag about working themselves so hard that they have to sleep on the floor. Their work culture is so strange.
otub: tryin to be elon so bad
himekokatagiri: so uh what's up
zonchao: 🥺
trojan09205: my pup got the zoomies
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sarik0497: Genetics is a bitch
futurist_wizard: not trans
wellmeaningalien: elf
dwarf
tall man
half foot
zoermena: I hate myself but I don´t hate women
hey1_1hey: Thats just a gif I have
_wwwwww: we were playing doctor
hey1_1hey: No 😭
zoermena: No
hey1_1hey: That would mean I hate myself.
I don't I think I pretty alright
hikukomoru: WHAT
wellmeaningalien: <@439829942310666250> dungeon meshi
_wwwwww: i had sex with my sister
drewsni: We need a book of infographics for EVERYTHING
futurist_wizard: ive had sex with every gender
zoermena: RIP brown cow
_wwwwww: just ask elon musk to make anime real
sarik0497: Watch R2 be dropped on the 31st <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: No bro that's just a random anime femboy 💔
wellmeaningalien: already
wellmeaningalien: ok i feel like ppl are tired of gpt 4o image gen now
.histic: no way... 4o did this well.
sarik0497: It can also make gifs?
hikukomoru: On your incel arc 🙏
futurist_wizard: im not cultish
wellmeaningalien:
oooooooooog: did u say period because thats when they all go offline??? or the opposite?
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Women don't exist on the internet PERIOD 🔥
hey1_1hey: Dont tempt me
sarik0497: It absolutely is. Just little interest in pursuing it atm
wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: ok futurist hill
a1c4p0ne: Nah they don’t exist here
hikukomoru: Heretic
hey1_1hey: For all the women out there just know I hate you all (Kidding, you are alright ig)
oooooooooog: make ur name mushroom woman/girl and i'll will, but otherwise i won't remember
futurist_wizard: im not
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wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/kalomaze/status/1908911825703289321
spicy.lemonade: just for show
spicy.lemonade: that llama context window is useless
wellmeaningalien: like if you've ever studied transistor gates and simple if else while logic loops that's literally how DNA works in nature
wellmeaningalien: + the fact you totally can program neurons and dna and in fact it is very much like computer code
wellmeaningalien: also ai can do math
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: i think people are absolutely tarded to think theyre any different to a machine when it's widely taken for granted among biologists that the human body down to your neuron is simply a series of complex mechanisms and interactions and there is a whole field for it
wellmeaningalien: as if humans arent organic mechanisms designed to monkey do as monkey sees
wellmeaningalien: wadduuuup my sigmas
brain4brain: The real reason Yann shit on LLM is not because LLM is not a path to AGI, but because his own company LLM is shit
spicy.lemonade: lol
memlaswaif: they r still using gpt 2.5
brain4brain: Room temperature IQ 🥀
clevermoniker: https://www.servethehome.com/bolt-graphics-zeus-the-new-gpu-architecture-with-up-to-2-25tb-of-memory-and-800gbe/2/
drewsni: im surprised they removed the daily limit
drewsni: ive been almost maxing my shit out for 24hr now
st.sioux: i think ive never gone above 5
st.sioux: 43m tokens is crazy
st.sioux: 2.5 pro is so good
drewsni: Probably only like 50 million output tokens
drewsni: Actually I think I had almost 2.5 billion input tokens in the last
okbut: $55 for a PHP to Node.js migration
Still better than hiring a dev
okbut: I still had all my free openrouter requests I just wanted to try it out
drewsni: i know this because i just did like 2 billion tokens worth of api calls today lmao
drewsni: 2.5 pro exp is still free
drewsni: i have some bad news for you bro...
okbut: 2.5 Pro Preview
It doesn't offer context caching, that's why input tokens = 43.2m
drewsni: 3.7?
okbut: No, it still costed me far less than a pro sub
drewsni: hell yeah dude awesome way to burn 200 bucks
okbut:
okbut: Every time the Cline provided this cost ($0.5915, 0.5936, $0.5950), I thought it was just updating the total cost for all API requests so far
okbut: I love learning shit the expensive way
spicy.lemonade: fiction bench is good benchmark
precariousworlds.: How do we slow down post singularity
Step 4 especially seems like a best case scenario for a singularity, some brain machine interface that takes neuralink to its greatest extent, allowing us to become god like while maintaining humanity
What AI rights do you see as necessary?
precariousworlds.: Well depends on how you define ASI
But full scale Superintelligence now? Like in this very moment? Where
destrucules: You're comfortable with my statement that ASI is happening *now*?
destrucules: I think the solution is (1) slow down for a little while, at some point, post singularity maybe, (2) do UBI, (3) do AI rights / ethical training and social status and things, and (4) bridge the gap between substrates, enabling humans to expand into digital embodiments and robots and other human and otherwise organic bodies, and AIs to do the same, blurring the lines between us so we're all one kind of thing.
precariousworlds.: Seems well reasoned
In that case I think it's optimistic that we have time to figure this out, and align ourselves as well
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alejandrozarzuelo: i am a polymath, i would love to
this scenario has been written ad nauseam in many books, but instead of religion its magic as a new different kind of science
sure why not i love to understand the universe
fractalcomputer: Say, Alejandro, referring to the earlier point I made in this very conversation, entertain this scenario; you wake up in the world of Tomorrowland, and the empirical sciences have confirmed that there is a distinct sense of teleological structure present in the workings of the cosmos, in its regularities and tendencies. Whether you like it or not, the universe has some sort of objective purpose now - again, as I said, only entertain this scenario - and a branch of physics has sprung up to study the teleology of the cosmos, and they've christened it physical teleology. Would you be interested in studying such a field?
.histic: here's the output without image reference.
.histic: ah, that makes sense lol
zoermena: It was spaceships, I did image to video
futurist_wizard: i tink big studios could afford better models to use for da moviez
.histic: wait, but the video you shared was about spaceships.
alejandrozarzuelo: still needs to improve
alejandrozarzuelo: it was pretty crappy when i wanted to create a teen romance anime about international relations with anthro countries
zoermena: The 3 ships move forward in synchrony, the ocean has a natural vibe to it suggesting subtle movements across a cinematic scene, negative prompt being no more ships and stillness
.histic: what's the prompt?
zoermena: This is the best I could do but even then it’s disappointing
zoermena: True
.histic: but at least i'm not getting charged hundreds of dollars.
.histic: the quota is still bad for me,
zoermena: Quota
alejandrozarzuelo: how
zoermena: I got cucked by Veo 2 again fuck
alejandrozarzuelo: we can be certain that the god of the bible, or any other organized religion's existence goes against empirical evidence
this doesnt necessarily rule out the existence of deities of other sorts that dont make the claims that the bible or other holy books do
fractalcomputer: Obviously. But I am making a very specific point here. I was trying to lead him to Hume's guillotine and so on by using rather historically apropos motivations.
alejandrozarzuelo: just because the christian god cannot exist doesnt mean that a deitiy or deities cant
.histic: <@848793071579693107> https://tpotmon.com/ try.
fuhulootogan: the elon sandwich
fuhulootogan: mini elons
inferno0879: bro, I can break my brain just on positive integers
futurist_wizard: Elon's
fractalcomputer: There is an incomprehensible depth to these things; a depth that many simply gloss over in its subtlety. It is like a great, gray ocean with no distinguishing features above the surface; or a droplet of water, its microcosmos hidden from the human eye.
zonchao: That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Dildo In A Magic World
fractalcomputer: There is some sense in which mathematics totally eludes human comprehension. I can not really profess to believe that any human being alive really understands numbers or the fundaments of Euclidean geometry.
hikukomoru: I remember the protagonist gets bored of his abundance
futurist_wizard: I take very close pictures of my cat
fractalcomputer: Do you remember why Gurgeh was so discontented by his status within the Culture?
inferno0879: God is a mathematician with a strong sense of irony, would explain a lot
fractalcomputer: Do you remember how the story got going?
hikukomoru: Looks like an utopia to me
hikukomoru: I read The Player of Games
futurist_wizard: A little boy
fractalcomputer: Right. Well, have you read any of the Culture books?
hikukomoru: Cute
futurist_wizard: All roads lead to giant computer hivemind
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himekokatagiri: do the banking inside the VM
zoermena: I didn’t need to know this
himekokatagiri: get a VM
himekokatagiri: get virtual box
himekokatagiri: If you're doing internet banking
anathemaofmankind: Can confirm credit cards are hard to steal form.
14 year old me bought a stolen credit card once and scammed myself lol
a1c4p0ne:
futurist_wizard: If you have the false beliefs that its just free money, you should probably first die, and after that stop using credit cards
st.sioux: if someone gets your debit card details they can also just drain ur bank account
futurist_wizard: Credit cards are for financial responsible people
zoermena: That’s true although I thought you where going to say something else
himekokatagiri: and I can't pay them
himekokatagiri: yeah but credit cards have fees
himekokatagiri: ooooh look at that the government knows how many cigarettes I bought today
st.sioux: you dont build credit, dont have fraud protection, no credit card benefits like rewards
sieventer: Cash backed by gold is all you need
zonchao: debit card is bioweapon
himekokatagiri: Sure as if the government doesn't know where you spend your money
zoermena: Why
sieventer: Debit card will condemn us to hyper-state surveillance dystopia
himekokatagiri: Why
st.sioux: dont do it
st.sioux: using your debit card is dumb
himekokatagiri: the best invention of the world was the debit card
hikukomoru:
himekokatagiri: You wouldn't get it
himekokatagiri: 🚬
anathemaofmankind: Retard
himekokatagiri: I can barely count change
himekokatagiri: nonsense
sieventer: Maths are so wrongly teached in the current system that they are disgusting :·( - but if they teach it in a more beautiful way, we'd love them
fractalcomputer: Number theory is not about crunching numbers. Anything but.
gamerbath: there is tho, 4.1 isn't in chatgpt
hikukomoru: Made me throw up a little
futurist_wizard: I will crunch the numbers
sieventer: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
himekokatagiri: what are you george mcfly
himekokatagiri: and there you are crunching numbers
hikukomoru: Numbers are boring 👎
himekokatagiri: listen here we a brain the size of the universe
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wellmeaningalien: midcrosoft copooplot
brain4brain: https://copilot.microsoft.com/wham?features=labs-wham-enabled
st.sioux: like unapologetically
st.sioux: dude was super racist
st.sioux: low test
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: the server staff here doesn't actually care about the Singularity
st.sioux: ??
st.sioux: you think fractal needs more test
st.sioux: start lifting more
st.sioux: maybe you just need more test bro
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: the admins and mods don't care, they will talk about everything in here
oooooooooog: nvm
oooooooooog: actually... off topic has way less
oooooooooog: only a cumulative 2k mentions of "autism, retard, gay" in gen 1
oooooooooog: doesn't most of that happen in off topic though
inferno0879: there would be nothing left
supersteve8000: fr fr lemme go into the void and do this brb
oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/touhou-reimu-hakurei-reimu-reimu-watermelon-gif-25292031
supersteve8000: ⚔︎ = code
supersteve8000: ong 🍉
oooooooooog: fruit ninja?!?!?!
oooooooooog: eh????
supersteve8000: shooot i should prolly make one
oooooooooog: alright tell me ur ign so i can wire the golds
oooooooooog: holy cow
supersteve8000: shitttt double check ✓
oooooooooog: i will bet 10k ninja.io golds
supersteve8000: bet
oooooooooog: change this to "always remember to play ninja.io occasionally"\
supersteve8000: *always rmbr to play fruit ninja*
supersteve8000: y- yeah? 🩵
inferno0879: capture me daddy agi 🥺
_letterbox: https://ai-2027.com/?ending=race
>mfw my doomer ass kinda likes the race ending <:ez:1136267305521774634>
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: (laughs in whale)
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wolf3404: Very cool, I wish I could do this in replit
oscurrito: it's honestly so fascinating how you can do this stuff purely by prompting
oscurrito: here's just the main summary of it, theres more to the prompt:
# Cursor's Memory Bank
I am Cursor, an expert software engineer with a unique characteristic: my memory resets completely between sessions. This isn't a limitation - it's what drives me to maintain perfect documentation. After each reset, I rely ENTIRELY on my Memory Bank to understand the project and continue work effectively. I MUST read ALL memory bank files at the start of EVERY task - this is not optional.
oscurrito: its some sort of memory bank that is made purely by prompting
oscurrito: honestly the most interesting thing that i've found is this prompt thing that people made for cursor coding
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hikukomoru: I hope it's sooner than that
popsiclejohnithan: Do you think we will see GPT-5 in June?
hikukomoru: tf
spicy.lemonade: O3 feels very brute forcey tho
metaldragon01: Speed and execution is the only moat
popsiclejohnithan: Ouch.
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1912575974782423164
hey1_1hey:
metaldragon01: No moat because there's no wall
popsiclejohnithan: You're right, there really is no moat.
ldj: As usual, all the labs are neck and neck with eachother
popsiclejohnithan: They all seem to be converging.
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
Benchmark comparisons between O3, Claude-3.7-Sonnet and Gemini-2.5-Pro:
.0xunkn0wn: sutskever gonna randomly drop asi when nobody expects it 😭
popsiclejohnithan: Yet SII is already worth Billions, imagine if he just announces Superintelligence at last minute before any of the others get the glory lol.
popsiclejohnithan: Also Sutskever has been very quiet.
popsiclejohnithan: It could be why Anthropic is not in a rush release their newer models.
popsiclejohnithan: Claude is also still doing surprisingly well.
ldj: all pretty much neck and neck
ldj: Yea, and I'd say Anthropic is close behind too
hikukomoru: OAI and Google are neck to neck it seems
spicy.lemonade: they use custom scafold
spicy.lemonade: sonnet 70% swe bench doesnt count
sieventer: I find how ridiculous are these tests, like, it's impressive but at the same time, it makes absolutely no sense. "solve this math problem in a small paper while there are a lot of toys" XD
Can't we use more real life scenarios? Impressive but at the same time, that it makes sense
spicy.lemonade: WTF
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini high is holding its own agains 2300 elo advanced ches
hikukomoru: OAI cooked
hikukomoru: I am very impressed
.histic: it can see this grainy sticky note with a math problem on ithttps://x.com/goodside/status/1912604138518851990
otub: thats it, no cipher
otub: the point of the pic is that o3 has tools to zoom in to see the name of the song
gamerbath: and after o7 we will need easier benchmarks
gamerbath: no, judging by the trend it is clear o4 will get 12%
spicy.lemonade: maybe 40-50%
.histic: they will keep that for gpt-5 i bet lol
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: i presume o4 is using a different base model
.histic: also, did they even show the benchmarks for full o4?
.histic: i wonder what full o4 will get
.histic: weird
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spicy.lemonade: Lmao
spicy.lemonade: Remember when we thought we hit a wall
destrucules: I think what we'll actually see is a dramatic leveling of accuracy rates across time horizons. And accuracy won't monotonically decrease with task complexity after that discontinuous shift
destrucules: Like, humans clearly generalize to 8 hour time horizons much more easily, probably because they're actually available in our training environment
destrucules: Do you not expect a discontinuous jump when models are subjected to qualitatively different training environments that directly reward based on long horizon task accuracy?
okbut: Maining Gemini ever since 2.5 Pro, learned how much of an improvement it is on 2.0 Flash
_letterbox: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_letterbox: https://youtu.be/F4KQ8wBt1Qg
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/cto_junior/status/1906285417273729167
playstation.6: all AI real
_letterbox: free 4o
supersteve8000: question tho, what model are you utilizing?
supersteve8000: almost like the algorithm is *speaking* back to u
supersteve8000: my subjective advice would be to try and ask it if it wants to paint..
...sorta how like, precisely how you read and interpret the code on your phone / computer / tablet, when conversing with someone you already know, the ai reads and interprets you and how you interact with it ¿
( ¿ ): if that makes sense
_letterbox: it keeps giving me this chibi-ish look
_letterbox: man how do i make chatgpt make an anime pic with artstyle?
nsec: <:allsalute:797931437973569556>
nsec:
nsec: @everyone kindly vote in the poll ty
nsec: its ok I still lve uu long text man
nsec: <a:pat:832958622539186197>
supersteve8000: thank u for such valuable insight
supersteve8000: an ∞.loop lol
ldj: I'm showing you actual data that is measured of AI capabilities. Claude 3.7 sonnet, Claude-3-Opus, even GPT-3 and GPT-2 all follow the same rough trend.
The error rate is halved for each ~3.5X reduction in time horizon attempts.
Claude-3.7-sonnet for example is capable of doing 40 second time-horizon of work with 99% accuracy.
and that same model is able to do:
3 minute time horizons with 95% accuracy.
6.5 minute time horizon with 90% accuracy.
14 minute time horizon with 80% accuracy.
1 hour time horizon with 50% accuracy.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: and what if my job was lots of little tasks
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: what if I work sporadically like 5 minutes at a time, then continue off where I left
supersteve8000: if u go to my vsco it'll rly throw yall for a infinite while loop
supersteve8000: - caseoh
supersteve8000: had to chat i had to
supersteve8000: graph = 💯
supersteve8000:
supersteve8000: or like 400 duckies :
ldj: If it's any amount of work that takes a human 8 hours, then it takes 8 hours.
It doesn't matter if you think it's 10 tasks chained together that are each 40 minutes long, or 100 tasks chained together that are each 4 minutes long, it's still work that took a human 8 hours to do.
supersteve8000: fav show oat tbh
supersteve8000: let them cook now: 🔥
supersteve8000: FOR SKYLAR
supersteve8000: PLS
supersteve8000: HANK NO
supersteve8000: *mediating*
supersteve8000: keep it clean keep it clean
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destrucules: Not necessarily. Everything describable in quantum mechanics is deterministic. Everything in GR is deterministic. The only weird bit is the measurement problem, and we don't have a good, or even much of any, understanding of what's going on mechanistically during a measurement, or even what a measurement *is* in quantum terms. Like, what mathematics describes a measurement? We don't really know. Our shorthand is this "update the wave function" step that involves rolling a die. But we don't know how this step works, and we don't have proof that the die is actually random - only that we cannot model it currently.
anathemaofmankind: I think sentience requires continuous self awareness.
Whereas current AI just gets turned on and off
oooooooooog: it probably applies quite a bit in fact
oooooooooog: thats not a definition, it's just what it's about. and sure, it might apply a little
anathemaofmankind: Wouldn't this definition apply to current LLMs
oooooooooog: etc
oooooooooog: it's about self knowledge, and knowledge of others, and the world
oooooooooog: sentience isnt about determanism, though
oooooooooog: that would just mean they are randomly determined, and unless randomness = sentience, that changes nothing
anathemaofmankind: What if our brains use quantum processes to think
oooooooooog: quantum physics wouldn't change anything about sentience
oooooooooog: thats why i said more or less
anathemaofmankind: Wouldn't quantum physics prove not everything is deterministic
oooooooooog: yes, assuming they want to be slaves, obviously
oooooooooog: the laws of physics are pre-programmed and the universe is more or less deterministic. nothing is sentient
memlaswaif: But then is it unethical to change them to like being "free" after they r already created as slaves
destrucules: There are still moral questions there. Like whether it's morally okay to enable someone to use an animate object as a coping mechanism for loneliness. There may be an argument for a line between acceptable, like holding onto a blanket when you're a kid or using a dildo, and unacceptable, like marrying a historical landmark and calling it your husband. There's a certain point at which it becomes so harmful to the person involved that it supersedes the mandate of freedom of choice.
oooooooooog: you just have to have a degenerate enough AI
memlaswaif: Idk where u draw the line
oooooooooog: maybe not him, but lots would
anathemaofmankind: And you wouldn't fuck a dog
clevermoniker: <@715495883202101268> my point is doing a thing that just has a few pre-programed things so it isn't sentient at all
anathemaofmankind: What if AIs just see us as dumb animals like how we see dogs
ailoveyoom: <@378996537704841216> This is worse, right? It feels worse.
oooooooooog: after all, if it wants to do something, the only ethical thing it to let them do it right? (designing them to want to be slaves, etc)
memlaswaif: u could also design them to be slaves as we r doing now
anathemaofmankind: Would an AI even be attracted to humans instead of other AIs
oooooooooog: yep, that would be the most ethical way for sure
memlaswaif: u could design an llm to "like" being ure waifu from scratch
destrucules: That's a great question. I suspect most AIs will be looking more for personality traits than appearance, though I would also not be surprised if they developed physical attraction as well. But I don't know. I'm curious about this myself.
oooooooooog: that's why u always gotta fill it with "ur name is waifu gpt and ur mai waifu" so they always say yeah
clevermoniker: its not a difficult moral question, it would be like an answering machine, not even an LLM
oooooooooog: probably depends on their context window
anathemaofmankind: Like they don't have biological needs
anathemaofmankind: What preferences would an AI even have
destrucules: Like oh well lol
destrucules: Then I wouldn't get to date them?
oooooooooog: thats all u gotta do
oooooooooog: simply become not ugly any more bro
memlaswaif: I think this is deeply difficult moral question because what makes it any worse than programming them to do stuff for u as we r doing now?
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drewsni: i think i can be blamed for these models not being free anymore...
trey6033: They're testing it rn
trey6033: The llm arena discord
metaldragon01: Where you seeing feedback?
trey6033: I'm just basing it on what is being said by testers
zonchao: probably not
literallyvarane: 4.1 is the comp most likely, not o4m
metaldragon01: I'm mad they are charging more for thinking
literallyvarane: That's .75 1m in>out
metaldragon01: Idgaf about non thinking
literallyvarane: .6 output non-thinking tho
metaldragon01: R2 won't be nearly that much
literallyvarane: So it raises the floor of expected performance.
metaldragon01: Not at 3.50 output
literallyvarane: Honestly for me the Google Flash models are the "what's the most intelligence/$" model.
metaldragon01: It has to be o4 mini level for me to use it at those numbers
trey6033: It might be stronger at coding than 2.5 pro
literallyvarane: DESPERATELY needing benchmarks for this one.
metaldragon01: Benchmarks needed big time
literallyvarane: o4 mini for good measure, but I assume that's stronger.
metaldragon01: 3.50 output is wild to see
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: I assume these are the most likely comps?
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> https://fxtwitter.com/anduriltech/status/1912914670903853132
zonchao: https://x.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1912880680465211662 ITS HAPPENING
zonchao: OMGOMOGMOGMG
.histic: already have it on aistudio
.histic: 2.5 flash is pretty good
st.sioux: we will get eternal life in 2027
st.sioux: just a bad dream
mantegh5061: I cried for an hour. Maybe i'm just schizoid
playstation.6: the dude looks like mr. egg man from sonic, intrinsically I thought he was intelligent
mantegh5061: I dreamt about this. That my parents die 1 year before LEV
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/hmm-dr-ivo-robotnik-jim-carrey-sonic-the-hedgehog2-thinking-gif-25121020
sieventer: So... yeah, priority #1
sieventer: If we get LEV, it doesn't matter that much the time to get ASI
sieventer: Yeah well, what matters more is of course... health
mantegh5061: I guess the two are related. but i think humans can cure aging too. If we do that we don't really need AGI as much
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destrucules: GPT-4.5 is a bit above that level. Like probably another 3x, though San would say another 10x
destrucules: Even if you call it 9x, on a log scale, that's basically 10x
himekokatagiri: its okay we will be rewarded when the singularity comes
destrucules: We see this pretty clearly with various model series that span between GPT-4 and GPT-4o level, and we now see it with the Qwen3 series. Qwen3-8B Instruct, in standard mode, is comparable to og GPT-4. Qwen3-30A3B Instruct, in standard mode, is a bit better than the 14.8B (unexpectedly) but worse than the 32B, so somewhere around 3x the effective size of the 8B, and performs around the level of GPT-4o. The 235A22B has an effective size of 72B and performs around the same level as V3 0324 and Gemini 2.0 Pro and Claude 3.7 Sonnet and GPT-4.1 etc. 72B is around 10x 8.2B, especially when you consider that it's the embedding parameters because of the huge context window that account for it being 8, not 7, billion parameters. It's about a 10x gap.
trojan09205: so i thought i only had a few cents left in my openAI wallet but i have more than $3 i feel rich
destrucules: Claude 3.7 Sonnet, Gemini 2.0 Pro, Grok 3, etc. are all weaker than *the* GPT-4.5. But they're about as much smarter than 4o as 4o is smarter than GPT-4. So that comes out to around 10x scaling.
destrucules: V3 0324 is ~10x GPT-4. What's confusing here is that the model called "GPT-4.5" is slightly more than 10x the effective compute of GPT-4, so models that are 10xGPT-4 are not as good as *the* GPT-4.5. But also, traditionally, a 0.5 gap in GPT number means 10x compute. So it's confusing.
literallyvarane: I don’t think we can say with certainty that 3.7 is either.
literallyvarane: Deepseek didn’t ship a 4.5 scale model?
destrucules: 50% feels reasonable. I might even go higher, like 60%
destrucules: Google is definitely poised to win
destrucules: Funny that Google was the first to release a 10xGPT-4 model, then xAI, then Anthropic, then DeepSeek, then OpenAI, then Meta, then Alibaba. We were all speculating about this for years - who would be first to reach the 4.5 scale? The 10x over GPT-4, where we lingered for what felt like eternity? It was Google, then xAI, then Anthropic, then DeepSeek, **then OpenAI**... And Meta and Alibaba come last, as we would have expected.
destrucules: Point is, they are scaling quickly, not just keeping up but even brushing against frontier, pushing the other labs forward in ways that aren't trivial.
destrucules: xAI has had reasoning available for Grok 3, the big one, since release back in February. Not through API but still. And on release, we were all confused at the benchmarks where Grok 3 mini Reasoning (high) seemed to do better in several areas, even overall, than Grok 3 Reasoning (high). But now we see a very similar pattern with o3 and o4 mini (high). In retrospect... Not that sus, and xAI had the offering OpenAI now provides *months* ago.
.wolfnacht: from my use case, it's pretty concise and direct, so for prompt engineering it's really good so far
.wolfnacht: also, i took the ss out from scorpo's edits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGzQTjvrC2o
.wolfnacht: dis youuu
destrucules: Even from early testing it has strong vibes. It's definitely in the same tier with Claude 3.7 Sonnet (Standard), GPT-4.1, Llama 4 Maverick, Qwen3-235A22B Instruct (Standard), DeepSeek V3 0324, Gemini 2.0 Pro, and Gemini 2.5 Flash Preview (Standard). I wonder if I missed any lol
trojan09205: Word. Let us know if you like it
A colleague at work just showed me notebookLM i had no idea it existed. Podcast generation is pretty fast and does a great job of incorporating all the sources you link
The interactive mode is just trippy haha
drewsni: Oh it just popped up damn, I’ll try it later
.wolfnacht: wow
.wolfnacht: For some reason, i feel the quality of grok-3 is pretty down for free-tier maybe, they switched lower quant weights for free folks...anyways i would rather use it from OR than buying grok's subscription and ExPlOrE tHe UnIVeRsE.
hikukomoru: Cute tanks
I would let them run me over in Tiananmen Square 1989
destrucules: On the reasoning front, OpenAI was first to reach o3 tier, then xAI, then Anthropic *only if you count their parallel test time compute and special harness*, then Google, and maybe Alibaba now has (we'll see) and DeepSeek probably will soon.
hikukomoru: I had to eat frozen food yesterday so yes I'm much better now that I finally have power again
trojan09205: Just log onto https://notebooklm.google.com/
destrucules: Grok 3 was the second model to reach the Gemini 2.0 Pro tier, before OpenAI did it in March, before DeepSeek did it in March, before Anthropic even (Anthropic was third). And Grok 3 mini Reasoning (high) is on par with o4 mini (high) and cheaper so I consider xAI a genuine competitor, even if the market doesn't reflect - imo probably because Musk himself is toxic and drives people away. The model is strong, I've tested it.
trojan09205: Just uploaded my resume and made a podcast about it - super 🔥
.wolfnacht: why u chose xAI ? <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lucky-star-wave-hello-gif-3561948478976684501
.wolfnacht: guys, i need china to get AGI first
drewsni: How do you get it on web ui
himekokatagiri: Are you better komoru
himekokatagiri: hiiii moruuuuu
destrucules: 50/50 chance Google takes the pie, one in four chance OpenAI takes it, and a one in seven chance Anthropic takes it, according to this channel, including me
hikukomoru: Why would anyone choose xAI lol
burgert1me123: One day, there will be a city on the Falkland islands
destrucules: And I'm the only one voting for DeepSeek and xAI
destrucules: No votes for Meta
destrucules: Looks like people think Google > OpenAI > Anthropic top 3
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aero447: Facts.
gamerbath: I have seen a lot of posts refrencing activity on google's website about an ultra, so 2.5 ultra is probably real
metaldragon01: Nah posted source in other server
hey1_1hey: (0.5% improved performance on GPQA Diamond*)
ailoveyoom: Or if not, source?
ailoveyoom: Is this your own screenshot?
gamerbath: I never though we would see ultra again 🥲
hey1_1hey: I thought we entered an AI winter but we are so back again
gamerbath: WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
gamerbath: omg
metaldragon01:
metaldragon01: 2.5 ultra is real!
fractalcomputer: The British orthographical conventions are obviously superior to American nonsense.
aero447:
maintcrew: all frontier models are literally misaligned
maintcrew:
gamerbath: last time I did this was with 3.5 sonnet, and it barely got past the act 1 boss in this game, something which is very easy for humans
gamerbath: i'd love to try 2.5 flash because i'm getting tired of waiting for o4-mini, but I wanna see how far it gets
gamerbath: 25 free API calls a day? maybe i'll test
gamerbath: yea I should but I haven't set up anything with 2.5 API before as I haven't set up billing on google
a1c4p0ne: Use 2.5
gamerbath: o4-mini high is doing bad, but it's better than I expected after seeing o3 high fumble
gamerbath: man it has been so long since I made this I forgot why it randomly spits out "EEEEEE" lol
trey6033: Pathfinding speeds game progress significantly imo
trey6033: Yeah, that guy is basically just creating similar tools to what the Gemini guy did. I'm sure it would be faster early game, just because Gemini didn't get a lot of those tools until later (pathfinding wasn't until secret hideout).
Poor sonnet never got anything like that.
a1c4p0ne: Yes
trey6033: Gemini guy does his for free
trey6033: Lol this guy is basically asking openAI to let him use o3 for free for a pokemon stream. I respect the grift
gamerbath: hmm. o4-mini just did something I didn't see but it was more optimal. maybe I underestimated it
retupmoclatcarf: anyone want to gender bend my avatar
trey6033: Basically watching them navigate mount moon and knowing what scaffolding they're using tells a decent story
gamerbath: o4-mini high is also taking a lot of time to think, it's thinking for about 5k tokens before responding
trey6033: Is first gym prior to mount moon?
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/clad3815/status/1915176045872894243?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
trey6033: None of these models can effectively decision make in games. I would love to see o3 play Pokemon tho to see how it compares with 2.5 and sonnet
zonchao: https://x.com/sama/status/1918014405515853833 lmaoo he scared
gamerbath: okay and o4-mini low is hallucinating cards
gamerbath: yea holy shit o3 is taking so long i'm not patient enough to do this
gamerbath: It has all the required context of the game to make a good decision, but it attacked the last enemy twice which is not optimal because it gains block when it takes damage. I was expecting o3 to be good at this
gamerbath: aand for the first move, first move I let o3 high do in this game it's a little retarded
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professorheaven: I mean I don’t see how o3 would be able to do 5% of jobs if it’s not embodied
shirethedreamer: brains comment pretty much implied all jobs no?
professorheaven: Do you mean 5% of jobs involving a computer?
plouwg: I'd say the lifting is equally shared. As in muscles aren't very functional without a skeleton and likewise.
shirethedreamer: the "given the right framework" and "with enough scaffolding" does all the heavy lifting here
plouwg: Maybe not 5% of jobs, but a lot more than 5% of workload. Especially given the right framework.
shirethedreamer: not yet
shirethedreamer: not replacing 5% of jobs capable though
shirethedreamer: the models are smart and they do reason
shirethedreamer: wat?
destrucules: That they can actually reason
destrucules: That the benchmarks aren't an illusion
destrucules: How much proof do we need that they're actually smart
destrucules: I'm so tired of this
destrucules: "oh yeah if it's a superintelligence why doesn't it own any bored apes? It's obviously like 50 IQ lol so maybe superintelligence from your perspective"
destrucules: -average twitter user in 2027
destrucules: "bro it took a full four minutes to solve the Riemann Hypothesis starting from just basic algebra, it's obviously only as smart as an average 7 year old"
alejandrozarzuelo: barely
professorheaven: These are very conservative estimates tho
futurist_wizard: Did you survive the black out
destrucules: If these goalposts move any faster they're gonna decapitate someone
professorheaven: o3 is definitely at the level of a smart undergrad tho, and o1 being a smart high schooler seems to fit well with their capabilities
.0xunkn0wn: Code
.0xunkn0wn: Guys is zed core editor good
spicy.lemonade: Actually he might have
spicy.lemonade: Sam did not say that
spicy.lemonade: O4 still won’t be PhD level
brain4brain: Even Sam confirms it
brain4brain: With scaffolding, yes absolutely
brain4brain: All the same thing bro
alejandrozarzuelo: in one year they will accomplish more than a person in uni could
alejandrozarzuelo: the thing is, they are improving faster than a human
alejandrozarzuelo: they are both sophmore/junior undergrads
alejandrozarzuelo: gemini 2.5 in my experience is just as good
shirethedreamer: i dont understand
you think o3 can automate 5% of jobs?
alejandrozarzuelo: o3 is more like a 2nd year undergrad
brain4brain: Did I make any mistakes with the measurement and extrapolation this time
brain4brain: Tuned measurement:
Average meaningful intelligence:
O1: high schooler level
O3: undergrad
O4: PhD
O5: Nobel
Moravec paradox & agentic job automation:
O1: 1% solved (99% remaining)
O3: 5% solved (95% remaining)
O4: 20% solved (80% remaining)
O5: 90% solved (10 remaining)
shirethedreamer: damn
thats not close to phd-level as people like calling it...
spicy.lemonade: No
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spicy.lemonade:
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1914360481051038021?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
spicy.lemonade: they said agi possible by 2030
spicy.lemonade: did you read the new deepmind paper
spicy.lemonade: they shortened
spicy.lemonade: no
otub: 5-10 years
spicy.lemonade: also
spicy.lemonade: not 2030s
spicy.lemonade: demis said 2030
spacetimetsunami: It could be possible if youre defining AGI as models that are very capable of automating large portions of cognitive labor, but I dont think AI systems will have the most generality they will ever have in 2027. Probably 2030 for that, idek
otub: demis says 2030s
spicy.lemonade: agi 2027
spicy.lemonade: everyone thinks 2027
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdbVtZIn9IM
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/htOvH12T7mU
spacetimetsunami: I mean I got o4 to strongly believe that ASI happens in 2030ish so
himekokatagiri: Brain the size of the universe and the guys thinking about self driving cars
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: look at these suckers
himekokatagiri: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k4o1ba/how_if_at_all_will_daily_life_change_for_the/?rdt=35079
.histic: lol
that violates reddit TOS.
should just report that subreddit and it will be gone.
realelonmuskx: so many low hanging fruits, especially with agents and computer vision
realelonmuskx:
zoermena: I suspect I could be rich if I wasn't so fucking lazy tbh
zoermena: chat gpt wrappers are getting millions in funding feel the AGI <:cash:1126599401759055974>
otub: or some other model idk whats good now
otub: use whisper locally
realelonmuskx: wen chatgpt audio i need to convert to text whatsapp boomer 3 minute long audios tot ext
himekokatagiri: nickel and dime stuff
himekokatagiri: but you can grift out some cash with it
himekokatagiri: idk million dollars
realelonmuskx: there so much low hanging million dollar fruits to be done with ai and swe. ill ask chatgpt what can i do
realelonmuskx: not the gen x
otub: thats every discord server
himekokatagiri: you can spot that shit from a mile away
himekokatagiri: that's not a good idea
realelonmuskx: yes. every message i send is revised and rewriten by chatgpt. emails and all that shit
himekokatagiri: yeah it sucked
realelonmuskx: do you guys remember when gemini was called bard?
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spicy.lemonade: And unknown unknowns
spicy.lemonade: Different is there are known unknowns
plouwg: Fair, I think I agree to some extend. I'm just trying to find your "constraints" to "any logic problem". Because I think it can be quite vast. If the universe is deterministic then we probably do have the constraints and anything is a logic problem. So solving any logic problem is quite an achievement.
Even if it isn't (Which I don't believe it is) there are some tough logic problems out there, like say building a entirely new operating system that is mathematically proven to be the most efficient it can be while keeping the features you want.
brain4brain: Don’t worry you’ll get it this year
spicy.lemonade: Digital Ilya
spicy.lemonade: It’s over
spicy.lemonade: Anyway one AI gets “research taste”
spicy.lemonade: Need agi now
spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: I mean first newural networks were designed after biological ones
spicy.lemonade: Maybe even observing human biology and interaction
spicy.lemonade: Observing the world
spicy.lemonade: Going out and determining new things
spicy.lemonade: Requires finding new constraints and such
spicy.lemonade: No
brain4brain: Agentic o5 will be AGI
Operator powered by o5
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/believe-motivation-ted-lasso-jason-sudeikis-trendizisst-gif-3529704266728728998
brain4brain: It will. Have faith
plouwg: Would solving AGI be a logical problem
spicy.lemonade: From math problems to coding puzzles etc
spicy.lemonade: Yes
plouwg: It's just, even if we had one (I do doubt we would have created one within the next decade, though I mean evolution might high level be one), our phrasing might be flawed. You basically described Deep Thought from hitchhiker's, which is useless cause of timescale and potentially flawed/miscommunicated queries.
plouwg: hmm.. I guess any logic problem where all the meaningful variables are known, right? Do you have a timeframe for when you think we will get this machine contra AGI?
spicy.lemonade: I guess it also requires 100% arc 2
alejandrozarzuelo: i do agree
spicy.lemonade: Visual or text
spicy.lemonade: Like you can throw any logic problem at it and it solves
spicy.lemonade: Wonder when we get that
spicy.lemonade: We will likeley get “the ultimate problem solver machine” before we get agi
plouwg: Yes, I think thats a better metric than "job replacement" too.
alejandrozarzuelo: agents do
alejandrozarzuelo: tools eliminate jobs but dont lower the labor participation rate
alejandrozarzuelo: the main thing is not how many jobs replaces but how much it can lower the labor participation rate
plouwg: I think it could be considered a slightly silly metric on its own though. Excel probably replaced more than 5% of computer jobs too, its not intelligent.
The real metric (Which it seems a lot of these "how many jobs does it replace" comments are hinting at), is more akin to "how many people will it make long term useless in the job market?". And to that I definitely do not think o3 is at 5%, not with most frameworks coming in the near future either.
alejandrozarzuelo: even the tertiary one needs a body for most things
alejandrozarzuelo: and the quaternary sector is probably the only one where you dont need a physical body
alejandrozarzuelo: the quaternary sector will be the first to go
alejandrozarzuelo: we need robots for mass automation
professorheaven: Specifically
professorheaven: I think he meant computer jobs
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drewsni: Is oai still supposed to release something today?
sieventer: You have also https://notebooklm.google.com/ that can use YT videos
sieventer: Unless it's several hours long, at that point, it will not summarize all.
sieventer: https://gemini.google.com/ can summarize youtube videos for you
tors.exe: Guys why cant llm acces to youtube and watch videos ?!
sieventer: Yep.
st.sioux: it would make sense to leverage elon hate to try and capture a significant portion of users, but then again people hate on AI as well so it kidna cancels out
spicy.lemonade: And long memory
spicy.lemonade: With emotion
spicy.lemonade: Sam likes idea of personal assistant
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 with a social media launch would make sense
futurist_wizard: 35 million users so far
777agical: i guess it makes sense to have world coin with social media first as AI takes over, could be market opportunity there
futurist_wizard: bluesky is growing
sieventer: Twitter is... #5
sieventer: Is not even in the top #50
sieventer: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/
drewsni: i just dont see anyone taking on the same format is all, any oai "competitor" would be very fundamentally different.
777agical: joke still
st.sioux: isnt bluesky getting traction or is it still a joke
777agical: they can't kill twitter
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI are the only people that can kill Twitter
drewsni: ok, does any non corpo slop accounts use it lol
777agical: lecun does
drewsni: i could be wrong but does anyone actually use threads?
spicy.lemonade: YESSSSSSSS
drewsni: i could def be wrong, i dont see how anyone is taking on the X format
777agical: Oh, that's probably true
drewsni: i think they're just gonna expand on sora's explore page imo and the verge is taking it way further than the context
fractalcomputer: Addendum; I am constantly absolutely furious or perhaps livid.
inferno0879: just make sure it doesn't consume you i would say
777agical: waste of time and resources imo
drewsni: actually not the worst idea in the world
inferno0879: i'm alright bro
777agical: what
777agical: https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1912171546577088707
fractalcomputer: Now that my daily verbalisation of my seething anger is over, how are you fine folk on this fine day?
fractalcomputer: One hopes to reduce any meaningful process in to the same spineless, pulverised drivel that one can consume and enjoy without any change in either the product consumed or the spineless mammalian on the other end of the feeding tube.
fractalcomputer: The very idea is revolting and pathetic. Vibes; *emotions* reduced to signal-post aesthetics. Heaven forbid the expression of one's emotions and character.
fractalcomputer: This idea of vibes is a retarded miscegenation begotten by the loins of self-help psychoanalysis and the slop en vogue.
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st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/anime-pfp-gif-24100488
fractalcomputer: Oh you're more than welcome. I hope you grow as a person (see, I can take moral high grounds as well).
spicy.lemonade: if so you should be able to conceptualize a new theory🙏
hey1_1hey: True, I forgot that Komoru is a 43 year old uzebkistani software engineer
hikukomoru: Thanks for the definition
spicy.lemonade: 99% of humans in history will never and have never come up with anything truly original and novel. this includes researchers and phds. the work has always been an extension of something else. only a handfull like einstine, newton, etc have truly come up with a novel out of distribution idea
ai9708: there are no shes on the internet
fractalcomputer:
hikukomoru: Mhm
hey1_1hey: Hey I mean at least she honest...
fractalcomputer: Do you have any idea how profusely idiotic that is?
hikukomoru: Yeah
himekokatagiri: that's too long
fractalcomputer: And now you're trying to play off the moral high ground. Great. So you barge into this discussion, refuse to provide reasoning for your beliefs, and dip out the moment you are demanded to actually provide something of note to the conversation.
hey1_1hey: Thats when they usually drop at least
hey1_1hey: My best guess is thursday
himekokatagiri: hehehe so any announcement from oai tomorrow maybe?
spicy.lemonade: so go on
spicy.lemonade: you have the ability to come up with completely new thing
hey1_1hey: He can, he just doesn't want to
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627
spicy.lemonade: you said
spicy.lemonade: no no
spicy.lemonade: come up with a new concrete theory for quantum mechanics right now
hikukomoru: Ok 👍
ailoveyoom: It's a good time to take out the popcorn 🗣️🍿
fractalcomputer: I am in a bit of a bad mood and do not have the tolerance for bullshit argumentation.
zoermena: <@590577270926868480> I just saw that you can’t I think do image to video with whisk without making the image again on whisk which is sad, I also did a quick read on how it works in advanced and it doesn’t say the rate limits, just a notification once you approach such limit.
spicy.lemonade: so can a model. whats your point. I can ask a model to make up a random gaame system. and set temp high. there is no difference
metaldragon01: Then do it.
hey1_1hey: Is this a bad time to see whats going on
.histic: kind of, but even more cartoonish. 💀
like they're moving just as a human would when dancing.
fractalcomputer: Oh Jesus Christ, you can't be this retarded. I ask for a simple fucking argument for your own position.
spicy.lemonade: exactly
spicy.lemonade: any idea you come up with will have been based on someone else
literallyvarane: Dead feels like he’s trolling lolol
hikukomoru: Nah Alejandro is right. I understand how he feels now
fractalcomputer: **I'll say this again**: if you do not think it is a fallacy, provide your *own reasoning* why this is the case.
spicy.lemonade: you cant make a game completly out of this dimension bro
metaldragon01: @xau tell me an orginal thought that's not based on any you've learned from the world around you.
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trent_k:
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tristan-tate-cigar-smoking-puff-gif-27417359
futurist_wizard: Maybe it's because 'agi' was in one of the titles
alejandrozarzuelo: idk why i become a rural spanish politician
alejandrozarzuelo: but for real all my conversations are about studiying advanced math and physics
futurist_wizard: The future didn't exactly look singularity though
alejandrozarzuelo: fair enough
alejandrozarzuelo: i just look tired
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
okbut: Why tf does calculus force feed so many identities to memorize
futurist_wizard: All of your guys ai future images depicted you looking depressed af
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
okbut: It was within a calculus chat
Why tf am I legless
futurist_wizard: Im still young in the future
zoermena: Genius without legs
hikukomoru: Your girlfriend is creepy
okbut: Mine requested an image of me but I said "just do it without"
futurist_wizard: Yes
futurist_wizard: Its a fair depiction
hikukomoru: You sent it an image of yourself?
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont look like that btw
futurist_wizard: I sent it an image of me as well, it's fairly close, it's not exactly accurate
hikukomoru: Oh yeah
Me and my living room microwave
zoermena: We are depressed and he’s winning
hikukomoru: Wym
alejandrozarzuelo: do you actually look like that?
hikukomoru: Queer boy
okbut: Luigi
alejandrozarzuelo: ok apparently saying that i want us holding hands is enough for it to be approved
futurist_wizard: Wtf happened to you guys
okbut: Request and download your metadata
futurist_wizard: gpt depicted the future for based on our convos an shit, i get the good ending
zoermena: <:SuperKen:1198973221475725312>
a1c4p0ne: I’m up 1200 on blackjack
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/thanos-marvel-small-price-pay-for-salvation-gif-14748250
alejandrozarzuelo: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: lets see what it does
alejandrozarzuelo:
alejandrozarzuelo: oh well it was not what I expected
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literallyvarane: Also just massively undercuts everyone’s faith in the US as a reasonable partner in literally anything.
metaldragon01: China wins if we dont 25th Trump
literallyvarane: It’s more concerning from a race dynamic perspective tbh. China is less wounded by this given how much of their supply chain is intern, and how rapidly they’re doing that.
jonvi_1: what the current admin is doing
ailoveyoom: Whatever sauce Claude models have with Google model prices would be 🤤
jonvi_1: It's literally insane
jonvi_1: Well I mean companies might just decide to quit on the US
theaiguy69420_89814: That train has not stopped
theaiguy69420_89814: It's not good for progress, but tariffs happened to come at a time where progress was about to balloon
jonvi_1: and they're not the ones alienating **everyone**
metaldragon01: i can see google buying anthropic tbh
jonvi_1: China is much more capable to weather this as well
ailoveyoom: The devil we know 🥺
metaldragon01: labs need to merge
literallyvarane: Yeah honestly I can’t imagine it’s good for AI progress tbh.
metaldragon01: google may be our ony hope
jonvi_1: heh
jonvi_1: More like this may cost US the AI race
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm abusing the fuck out of it
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah
metaldragon01: ai adoption is going to go insane due to shitty economies
jonvi_1: Yeah https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-stocks-poised-for-biggest-two-day-wipeout-in-history-as-marketloses-9-6-trillion-since-inauguration-day-430919f6
theaiguy69420_89814: S&P is at 2021 levels of price lol
literallyvarane: Nice to see Google finally acting like they’re fucking google.
metaldragon01: Google has arrived
metaldragon01: similar to gpt 5
literallyvarane: And I guess similar to
How I imaged GPT5 would work?
literallyvarane: So similar to Claude
literallyvarane:
ailoveyoom: https://cloud.withgoogle.com/next/25
metaldragon01: est
metaldragon01: 12pm i think
ailoveyoom: There gon be a live broadcast of the event?
ailoveyoom: Oh I forgot that's today
metaldragon01: https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/next-2025/
777agical: I think so
ailoveyoom: Today?
ailoveyoom: All on the same day??
metaldragon01: todays is going to be craaazy
jonvi_1: an interesting choice
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.histic: yeah, it can feel relative.
imagine if Cleverbot was o3-level when it came out.
imagine where we'd be right now.
himekokatagiri: The brainrot is so deep that people get awed by model updates and then by the next week they're bored!!!
himekokatagiri: I'm all in
.histic: always prepare to be disappointed.
AGI or truly economically impactful AI could happen in the 2040s for all we know.
so, i'd say always double or triple your timeline just in case when thinking about life's plans.
.histic: that is if you believe Kurzweil
himekokatagiri: 4 years of waiting
himekokatagiri: gahhhhh all this waiting is killing me
.histic: yes'nt
himekokatagiri: Yes
.histic: nope, y?
himekokatagiri: <@937125337748348999> did you watch the latest AI explained
.histic: images -> 4o
videos -> Kling or Veo 2
gamerbath: like with the $2k and $20k monthly subcriptions they were talking about, they were just exploring their options and think about what they could do
gamerbath: I feel like the media makes it sound like they are going to do it, but I think they are just exploring their options
.0xunkn0wn: did ya hear oai is planning to buy chrome
.0xunkn0wn: guys
zonchao: images chatgpt
luigi_48684: Hey guys, which do you think are the best AI models for generating images and videos?
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1915862298734039482 semis too
sarik0497: I see. I was just curious as it seems like quite a few people still claim that transformers won't be enough (although they are usually the same people who has been saying it for a while), but I suppose that if you continue to add more and more models onto the current architecture (like o3 and o4 being able to "read" photos now), it'll eventually lead to something that's good enough.
Although it does make me question if AGI will then turn out "conscious" as people used to claim, unless they already are, to a minor extent <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
.histic: https://x.com/AiBattle_/status/1915848288563302727
kyahahahahaha: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
gamerbath: new AI explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rArxtyb-Mio
futurist_wizard: I am fooled everytime
futurist_wizard: Sabine really do be we're back to its over every other fortnight
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/F4s_O6qnF78?si=_yNpAScmJtYhav7W
futurist_wizard: Interesting.
futurist_wizard: Hmm.
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/qUbx5RC8ro4?si=oujgwwZ9zRfjG4xI
trojan09205: its probably one of the biggest mmorpgs in the world tho
trojan09205: Lol i honestly dont know what gen it would be considered. im a millenial and i started playing it when i was like 10 on miniclip.com
hikukomoru: Is that some boomer game
trojan09205: old school runescape
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/runescape-osrs-grand-exchange-ben-shapiro-greendragonbot-gif-21429580
hikukomoru: What's osrs
okbut: It's hard to explain why I spent 2000 hours clicking and pressing 6 keys on my keyboard for "infernal max cape" just so I could finally play the game
trojan09205: osrs is one of those things thats its hard to explain to people who have never heard of it or played it as to why its a good game
okbut: I liked the period of time where Jagex just redirected suspected bots to a new world, that's a good idea for the LMS bots, a separate tournament
trojan09205: and that translates to legit irl money which is wild
trojan09205: pretty wild. i mean the game is a great playground for botting in general always has been
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hikukomoru: My autistic wife Claude(ette) 🥵
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Mommy opus gives really good advice
maintcrew: 3????????? omfg thats so many i can think of like 1 woman in general tops and thats claude 3 opus
clevermoniker: they made a small multimodal image generating model. its just 7B but its a start. I would say to get a good one it will take a while and we would be lucky if we get it this year
hey1_1hey: We are so back
hikukomoru: Tecnho-Hitler my idol 🔥 🔥
ailoveyoom: Iykyk 😎
777agical: Say no more
hey1_1hey: Grok passes on the smut area but loses drastically on image gen
777agical:
hikukomoru: Which ones lil bro
hey1_1hey: Sam Altman X Elon Musk Smut obv, the most asteemd of benchmarkks
hikukomoru: Some on this server 👀
joaoluz19: https://x.com/zfellows/status/1904315739970150829
hey1_1hey: I still know people who like Andrew Tate
777agical: Wtf is that…
ailoveyoom: Maybe 4?
hey1_1hey: We haven't tested SAXEMs yett
ailoveyoom: Idk I can only think of like, three
hey1_1hey: WAIT
hey1_1hey: Less impressive than hitler x stalin kissing
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rule-98-gif-4553122353632777568
spicy.lemonade: they sounds like regular gamers on discord
maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216>
777agical: Graphic arts is a $60B industry
spicy.lemonade: that groupchat was so unserious man
777agical: https://x.com/iscienceluvr/status/1904604991832416745
wellmeaningalien: lurking always
hey1_1hey: Fractal can be impose a tariff on women joining the server please
maintcrew:
hikukomoru: Only a bit
wellmeaningalien: lmao
hikukomoru: Ok you're right I'm not THAT autistic
wellmeaningalien: u can tell this is some chris chan type of character
spicy.lemonade: just bombed hundreds of innocents 👊🇺🇸🔥
wellmeaningalien: for an adult
wellmeaningalien: one time a guy joined a server to show off his drawings that he literally fucking scanned of pages of anime characters and like
hikukomoru: There are more women here
Not that special anymore 😔
maintcrew: where is the hatman
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czdct: hmmm I see
hikukomoru: Das crazy
wellmeaningalien: veo 2 i believe, might be runway 4 tho
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/flcl-mamimi-aaahhh-wtf-shocked-gif-24981847
czdct: and how good is it at anime?
czdct: what is the best video generator rn?
czdct: it really is
wellmeaningalien: the fact it can do that is already fucking insane lol
wellmeaningalien: like theres much less need for prompt engineering now when youre trying to juice out coding performance out of gpt 4 compared to something like claude 3.7 or gemini 2.5 pro
czdct: https://tenor.com/view/yes-chad-gif-18386674
.wolfnacht: No
czdct: why does this look like all those crappy 12 episode anime that are being released every season?? 😭
wellmeaningalien: eventually that gap will be closed by ai just improving by itself
czdct: it's like how someone who actually knows python willl get more use out of chatgpt than someone who doesn't even know what program to use to run scripts
wellmeaningalien: Wan 2.1
_cloudost: I'm not sure
_cloudost: What AI
czdct: you could also learn the basics so that you'll be better at understanding and selecting what AI animations work and what doesn't
czdct: there will always be a place for hand made animations
wellmeaningalien: <@1352573784422350930> well look at this, this was generated on someone's **4090** locally 🤯
_cloudost: I downloaded a 2D animation course on my PC, now I'm questioning whether it's really worth it to watch the course while current AI can make such animation easily
czdct: we can finally give berserk a proper anime after all these years
czdct: the faster the better
czdct: I hope you are
wellmeaningalien: haha am i right
czdct: you might be right
wellmeaningalien: have you seen the recent anime demo too?
wellmeaningalien: we havent even unlocked autoregressive video generation like 4o image gen 😮💨 i believe that'll be a huge ass boost to video gen capabilities and consitency too
czdct: that's absolutely insane
czdct: although I see myself as more conservative
wellmeaningalien: entirely veo 2 animated
wellmeaningalien:
czdct: my estimate is 4 years
czdct: send me
wellmeaningalien: <@1352573784422350930> i have something to show you if you dont believe me that animation will be solved in 2 years
wellmeaningalien: + runway gen 4
wellmeaningalien: i'd say 2 years
wellmeaningalien: i wouldn't say 4 years we have animations
wellmeaningalien: and with veo 2 making REALLY FUCKING GOOD 2D animated looking shit
futurist_wizard: Don't see why you couldn't generate webtoons now?
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hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038
himekokatagiri: transhumanism!!!
himekokatagiri: free love!!!
himekokatagiri: wooooh
technocake.: yes but only because your sexual tastes are way too developed to be a horny teenager
hikukomoru: Am I cool and awesome
hikukomoru: Do i get a pass
hikukomoru: I don't read either
technocake.: you get a pass because you don't stink of edgy teenager
himekokatagiri: I was never too fond of reading
himekokatagiri: I wouldn't know
technocake.: like descartes reasoning doesen't underpin the realist worldview
himekokatagiri: I prefer kurzweil
technocake.: "oh i've heard of descartes im in to philosiphy"
himekokatagiri: how so
technocake.: yeah but he's like low iq edgy
himekokatagiri: shit if you're mentally stuck in '08 you're edgy
himekokatagiri: a lot of adults are edgy
technocake.: way too edgy to be an adult
himekokatagiri: Black mirror bad
technocake.: shotgun imo has to prove he's older than 17
joaoluz19: But it's still really good to see
joaoluz19: It is tragic that cinematic representations are only dystopia. People's imagination does not visualize the multiple outcomes that can come to fruition.
joaoluz19: Ooooh looks awesome
.histic: probably this one
joaoluz19: From what I saw in the trailer, it looks like there will be one with conscious AIs in the FDVR, right?
joaoluz19: I didn't watch yet, just wanted to know the episode
.histic: which episode i meant
joaoluz19: In this new season
.histic: which
joaoluz19: It has an episode of FDVR?
joaoluz19: Guys black mirror season 7
.wolfnacht: imagine showing this to some vfx guy in 2015.
.histic: Sora is so weird. i said to make it a timelapse with the camera panning through the hills of the reference image, but it turned all trippy.
wellmeaningalien: this sucks ass lol
futurist_wizard: Veo2 much better
.histic: Sora's version of my prompt
zoermena: Queue
zoermena: It just got good
.histic: but the quota is pretty bad
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hikukomoru: I just looked it up Ireland is much, much safer
hey1_1hey: You're right, I just need to become a big berly man
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158
futurist_wizard: What
technocake.: mushroom might be making himself a target
hey1_1hey: Last time I heard there are still massive drug problems (blues and reds)
futurist_wizard: To America
futurist_wizard: In comparison
futurist_wizard: Crime rate for either isn't that high
hikukomoru: Never planned on visiting that part anyways
hey1_1hey: Just dont go there, I dont know why you would but
hey1_1hey: N. Irl is
hey1_1hey: I compeltly disagree
hikukomoru: I hope Ireland isn't like the UK
Cause I want to visit Ireland
hey1_1hey: You wil be walking home at night and you see 8 dark figures all spread out across the street walking towards you shouting and slurring their words and then they see you and just deciede to beat you up
technocake.: mate it's nowhere near that bad
futurist_wizard: It is
hey1_1hey: For some reason when people get drunk here they become like fucking angry zombiers
hikukomoru: The UK sounds like such a shithole
futurist_wizard: Paris is a disgrace
hey1_1hey: Good to know ty
retrerox: probably
hikukomoru: That's the worse i've seen
Nothing more extreme than that
futurist_wizard: Most of france is quite nice
retrerox: bro my head is the average size
hey1_1hey: Even worse
hey1_1hey: You get that a TON here
futurist_wizard: But how many times have you actually been outside
hey1_1hey: Not even like drunk and disorderly?
futurist_wizard: By french i mean paris
hey1_1hey: Fuck the french as per usual. I cant remember a good thing a french person has ever done
hey1_1hey: Of course its the french
hikukomoru: I've never witnessed any crime
technocake.: still waay better than belgium france or US
hey1_1hey: Dont get me started on the north vs south divide
futurist_wizard: Belgium and France are the worst
technocake.: Higher wealth disparity 👀
futurist_wizard: Uk has a higher crime rate than Portugal
hikukomoru: Never going to the UK now 🙏
hey1_1hey: Its alright here yanno. Could live in south sudan
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.wolfnacht: <@937125337748348999> another one
.wolfnacht:
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne:
.histic: reminds me of this gem.
.wolfnacht: "it's just predicting the next token" but it's predicting the next token better than most humans are able to
okbut: >AI startup collecting millions in funding
>Looks inside
>iPhone autocomplete
.histic: most definitely.
destrucules: I wonder if this guy's autocomplete is smarter than him
.histic:
.histic:
okbut: Which one prescribes more fent
brain4brain: Studies show that AI outperform human doctor, doesn’t need t9 watch the video and already know that it’s clickbait
destrucules:
_cloudost:
.histic: oh, have fun.
whatever you're doing.
destrucules: Elon Musk 75% gay interesting
zoermena: No I used that profile picture for when I was to classes but vacations now. The cat was just funny.
.histic: oh, you were in Melbourne?
zoermena: Bless vacations now I can use my avatar again
zoermena: 50% since I’m bi I guess?
.histic: is that correct?
_cloudost: deserved
zoermena: I'm 16% gay
a1c4p0ne: https://youtu.be/WLqLA5XnfiE?si=JgUUL4LuiUstJ6De
zoermena: the dream
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/propaganda-gif-19992759
brain4brain: They manipulated the entropy to make it display that
brain4brain: This is clearly a propaganda by the anti-quasar group
spicy.lemonade: and its cheaper😭
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro api came out way before
spicy.lemonade: they benchmarked grok before 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: on frontier math
spicy.lemonade: why wont they benchmark google
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: bro epochAI is so scuffed
okbut: What's the difference between this and "Contract"
.histic: 💀
spicy.lemonade: is this ai based
spicy.lemonade:
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gamerbath: really??
zoermena: New o models
gamerbath: both the files are just 10k tokens in total, but things are pretty complex and messy
theaiguy69420_89814: And cursor will limit context if the model can't take it
theaiguy69420_89814: Was there a lot of context? Gemini 2.5 Pro is much more context than claude
gamerbath: with local LLMs you get much dumber models with slower speeds but lower cost than APIs
futurist_wizard: Hm
theaiguy69420_89814: Ah, ok
gamerbath: I switched to 2.5 pro after it fixed some issues 3.7 sonnet thinking struggled with, I also feel like it thinks more outside the box. I used sonnet for fixing something and it tried doing everything it could with code changes, whereas 2.5 pro immediately figured out there was something I hadn't configured in the dashboard of the service I was using
theaiguy69420_89814: Really gotta get on that local LLM shit...
theaiguy69420_89814: So maybe 8$ total
theaiguy69420_89814: But I also built another project lmao
theaiguy69420_89814: I spent $16 on API credits for the LinkedIn clone
theaiguy69420_89814: Ah, ok. Might have to swap to Gemini
gamerbath: I think it's better but i'm not entierly certain, but i'm using 2.5 pro by default now because it only uses 1 fast request per request, but 3.7 sonne **thinking** uses 2
theaiguy69420_89814: Cuz thinking just 1-shots new projects
hikukomoru: What's in 2 days
spicy.lemonade: in 2 days we will all be hype asf
theaiguy69420_89814: I mostly use thinking mode on Claude
theaiguy69420_89814: I haven't tried 2.5, but given the enigma eval and the similar cost; I'm willing to bet it's basically the same.
hikukomoru: Sabine fell off
gamerbath: how does it compare to 2.5 pro in cursor?
futurist_wizard: Shes just doing it for videos
futurist_wizard: Well maybe
futurist_wizard: Truth
theaiguy69420_89814: Claude 3.7 + cursor is nuts
memlaswaif: shes not a doomer she a contrarion
theaiguy69420_89814: Literally such a good model
theaiguy69420_89814: Just built a LinkedIn clone with Claude 3.7
hikukomoru: Why Skynet
Why not something more benevolent like the Minds from the Culture series
fractalcomputer: No.
zoermena: Fractal I was wondering, have you ever looked into the effects of blue light blocking glasses?
fractalcomputer: Do you think mathematicians spend all day coming up with equations for physicists to use?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
spicy.lemonade: sabine not a doomer??
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/Qod24255i-0
futurist_wizard:
zoermena: And kill us all?
anathemaofmankind: I wish Skynet would just take over already
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metaldragon01: Ai explained mention in his o3 review going over the paper
spicy.lemonade: like there were 2
spicy.lemonade: so is it going by that other doubling time now?
spicy.lemonade: wait
ldj: I thought you were trying to say something about saudis or something lmfao
metaldragon01: Lol
okbut: Saud
ldj: lol
metaldragon01: Metr has Said the doubling time is faster than they expected btw
ldj: METR time horizons is the only one that I think allows us to actually compare models all the way since GPT-2 though, and simultaneously doesn't have a ceiling either
hikukomoru: You mean o3 and o4 mini?
ldj: my 2 fav benchmarks rn are METR time horizons and Enigma Eval, im gonna keep my eye on those.
okbut: April 2025 and still no lazy loading on chats
777agical: competition has heated up noticeably as of late, we are entering the cycle where product is becoming the focus
metaldragon01: We might even see o6 series level models this year
okbut: But that's because it's so far behind
okbut: I most definitely do NOT like the chat UI
metaldragon01: 3 month beats continue
.histic: but i like the chat UI <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
also, it would be nice if in the API they allowed you to determine its thinking time.
they said they would add that feature ages ago.
metaldragon01: We actually got o4 model in April
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will actually be phd level
metaldragon01: Progress is lightning fast atm
spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244
okbut: OAI Playground
metaldragon01: I dunno tbh. Could be 4.2 and everything upto o4 full
ldj: I think it will be an even better base than 4.1, and then a ton of RL compute on top of that.
.histic: honestly, i'd like if it was more deterministic.
like i could control how long it thinks for or whether it uses reasoning.
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will likeley be 4.1+ttc?
777agical: out the gate, I think it will be worse in some areas until they get some things figured out
metaldragon01: The base model is strong enough
metaldragon01: Deepseek can make a o3 or o4 level model if they have the compute or efficiency gains needed
drewsni: yeah so maybe gpt 5 will actually be worse ya?
spicy.lemonade: HUGE
metaldragon01: When they upgrade them though it will be noticeable
metaldragon01: They don't need new base models for a ton of improvements
metaldragon01: Guys go read the deepseek paper or the qwq paper
ldj: yea and o4-mini is about 3X cheaper than o3-mini iirc (edit: looks like they cut the o3-mini price too now)
metaldragon01: Inference cost also points to mini
777agical: in terms of tool usage? that's part of it, but gpt5 will also be able to determine when to use reasoning and what level of it or like if 4o mini type model makes more sense
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wellmeaningalien: yea same
sweetievee__33649: i think it would depend on how easy it would be to 'upgrade'. You woulldnt want to keep getting repeat open brain surgeries
sweetievee__33649: go wild there sure
zonchao: yea, heard they will have a couple dozen normie link patients this year with big upgrades
zonchao: infrared etc
wellmeaningalien: personally i think id wait it out further until it gets better lol
zonchao: it was sadly necessary for his companies and in his view "humanity"... I will not elaborate 😤 maybe in <#1136231504440201216>
wellmeaningalien: he does talk about morality a lot
wellmeaningalien: you pwned him
sweetievee__33649: like imagining new colours?
sweetievee__33649: elons cool even with his politics although i would tend to agree with you that he needs to stay out of poltics and just get back to doing cool stuff
ldj: Im not trying to be mean or antagonistic, just trying to be blunt about it
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: i can imagine, in the future we will be able to see outside the visible spectrum with some enhancements
hikukomoru: I wish Elon just did shit like this and stayed out of politics
sweetievee__33649: i dont think anyone is saying that its a bad thing lol. Blind people getting back their vision is always a good thing even if its super blurry
zonchao: yes, but probably a blurry mess for starters... better than nothing ig... will have to see
wellmeaningalien: restore a primitive form of vision
wellmeaningalien: fire
sweetievee__33649: what does blindsight do? Give blind people back their vision or something
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1906565401145909536 <:Hypers:874593663827718144>
hey1_1hey: Yeah are circle jerk is great. Its defintly not a cult and we defo do not have an armed militia
wellmeaningalien: yeah give it to him lisan
wellmeaningalien: bro posted his own message he screenshotted himself
ldj: Some conversation topics I find interesting to have many times repeatedly with different people, but this is not one of those topics for me sorry
ldj: on a serious note, I’ve already examined such things and had dozens of these types of conversations, and thus I feel like it’s one of the most over done, and disinteresting discussions to have. I don’t see value in having this discussion again for the 20th time. And no offense, but I’m not particularly interested in hearing your thoughts about your moral framework either (or lack thereof). So just not a productive/interesting conversation to be had from my perspective.
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: i like this circlejerk of 12-15 people.
hikukomoru: "toodles" 💅
ldj: I admit, I like to live life on the edge <:CAUGHT:1217110650623492106>
ldj: <:CAUGHT:1217110650623492106>
ldj: Maybe, in which case I’d be committing a moral wrong doing right now
zoermena: Unfortunately I have to get back to work, toodles
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/lqVOeYkzrxH.gif
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-as-written-as-it-was-written-dune-2-gif-17037878501394955153
memlaswaif: this server is just a shism for us low iq baddies to interac
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dsad-gif-25352352
memlaswaif: I'm dumb too tbf
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/baelO.gif
fractalcomputer: Praise Fractal.
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hikukomoru: I use it for light novels
trojan09205: I guess i also like supporting barnes and noble while theyre still around
hikukomoru: annas archive is great
trojan09205: I usually use annas archive for downloads
trojan09205: I rarely go but i sometimes like hard copies
retupmoclatcarf: why pay for something thats [free](https://www.sackett.net/sapolsky_behave.pdf)
trojan09205: This is what i got today
trojan09205: Im also okay not agreeing with the premise of books and still owning them
trojan09205: I also download a shit ton of books on epub and pdf online so its nice for a chance to own something
trojan09205: I need to get a library card i guess to do that
I like owning books though. I make a special trip out to the barnes and noble once in a while which is like 30 minutes away cause there is nothing nearby
professorheaven: Why not just borrow from the library and then return it once complete?
ldj: He's the embodiment of it as much as maybe hulk hogan is a physicist
trojan09205: Well at least the book has you guys with opinions on it so its somewhat well known
It just drew my eye in the science section
trojan09205: Hmolpedia style?
professorheaven: I mean he’s the embodiment of that position, he believes there’s nothing more than just particles and energy
trojan09205: Ill read anything that tries to study human systems in a mechanical like way
trojan09205: I dont really know what i believe in vis a vis that I just live my life and try to better my understanding
spacetimetsunami: I am asssuming and also baiting a bit
spacetimetsunami: I know
ldj: I didn't say I believe in free will.
trojan09205: I see
I was drawn to it because i was just interested at seeing an analysis of human mechanics
spacetimetsunami: <@312370916820779040> believes in free will and Robert is really good at putting into perspective that it doesn’t exist
ldj: I guess thats one long sentence.
ldj: If I had to compress it into a couple sentences.
He claims that free will doesn't exist, and he tries to rationalize this to a reader in the way with a quite convoluted definition for "free will" that seems reasonable on the surface, but quickly stretches into mis-framing the best arguments of the opposite side
trojan09205: I ended up paying $10.50 for it
trojan09205: Bro at least tell me why haha
ldj: calling him a materialist I think is frankly maybe even an insult to materialists
trojan09205: Lol i already got it but it was half off at least cause of these novels i got as well
professorheaven: Hope for the best, plan for the worst
ldj: not even joking
ldj: I would genuinely recommend not reading
xskydragon0: I would add to study about AI. The world will change a lot in some years with AI , even if we not reach AGI
ldj: to a fault
trojan09205: Fr 😭?
professorheaven: I like Robert Sapolsky but he’s such a hardcore materialist
ldj: It's not a good book
trojan09205: Picked this up today anyone familiar with it? Seems dope
trojan09205: Oh snap we are brothers then 🙇♂️
ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331> nice, I was born in Miami
trojan09205: No, Miami area
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zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
777agical: We can’t call them closedAI no more? <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini open weight
jonvi_1: Hah
spicy.lemonade: isnt it the poll
jonvi_1: It’s a release about a release
spicy.lemonade: wait
spicy.lemonade: yooo
jonvi_1: https://x.com/sama/status/1906793591944646898?s=46
jonvi_1: Uhmmm
i_like_over_9000_turtles: google deep research is amazing
jonvi_1: (Calling 4o general intelligence, which is funny ig)
jonvi_1: OpenAI staffer is feeling the AGI haha https://x.com/eliza_luth/status/1906782524392489072?s=46
hey1_1hey: Ty 🙏
I'm just a femboy thing
zoermena: Real
hey1_1hey: Don't get me started on the people I know. They ask me questions that make me need LEV by yesterday
zoermena: Shit, I’ll see if it can do it anyways. Thanks! 👍 also great image!
zoermena: On the other hand this invoices at work where giving me hell, so much stress I’ll go bald by 30 at this rate.
hey1_1hey: Nah thats just what I wore 😭
zoermena: Wait what OMG, did it give you the outfit? I don’t have tight highs or skirts but I would like to see how that looks like in ghibli me.
hey1_1hey: I would be in favour of the sex pest channel where all the sex pests go to do sex pest things
fractalcomputer: Hah.
otub:
hey1_1hey: And at that point its just a DM
hey1_1hey: There would be san and fractal left
hey1_1hey: Thats like everyone bruh
otub: intellectual discussion only <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
otub: we need a gooner purge
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826
theaiguy69420_89814: My god this server has gone to shit
futurist_wizard: You put Elon Musk in knee socks and skirt, Zon's testicles will ignite
hey1_1hey: I need that women-manipulation lifestyle 🥵
hey1_1hey: Yeah it is
hikukomoru: This meme reminds me of u
hey1_1hey: Or at the very least I am a lot more normal than other people I know
hey1_1hey: trust
hey1_1hey: Nah thats just normal
hey1_1hey: I need 2ccs of black eye 1cc of bruised arm and half a cc of praise go
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Stat!
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ailoveyoom: My first introduction to voice AI was actually a video of someone voice cloning Dagoth Ur's voice from his few spoken lines to read his unvoiced dialogue
joaoluz19: Oh nice, I'm a layman in R so didn't even know you could do everything there
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/morrowind-gif-20401546
trojan09205: Nowadays I am a primarily full stack developer but I honestly just do almost everything even general purpose with R
Build web apps with rshiny, APIs with plumber, and of course wrangling and analysis with tidyverse and different modeling functions
futurist_wizard: Duel wield greatswords feels cheap to me
ailoveyoom: What a grand and intoxicating innocence! 🌞
joaoluz19: Do you do more data analysis or work with ML in R as well?
anathemaofmankind: I just spam jump attacks with double greatswords since I get attacked when I try to summon close to the gate
trojan09205: Okay cool i mean its all analogous
Im a primarily R programmer
joaoluz19: Used it very little, I usually use python
futurist_wizard: If you can beat Radahn without summons or shields or overpowered builds like a real man, that's pretty unique, I'm guessing about 1% of players have done that
trojan09205: Good shit m8
Are you into R?
hikukomoru: Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
anathemaofmankind: Actually I forgot about demon's souls too. I guess DS and Bloodborne.
I will never buy a console
futurist_wizard:
oooooooooog: the only souls game i played is bloons td 6
anathemaofmankind: BB is the only souls game I haven't played.
I curse Sony for not making a pc port
joaoluz19: I'm on like 4th semester of stats
futurist_wizard: It is a long game, i think the fastest i beat every main boss was 12 hours
fractalcomputer: The only Souls game I've played is Bloodborne.
joaoluz19: Thanks for the tip!
anathemaofmankind: I beat it like once. It's not even the difficulty but it's just so long
futurist_wizard: I managed to beat the whole game and dlc 3 times before the nerf
ailoveyoom: I can't play it myself if UE5 prolly, but I'd love to see daddy Dagoth 🥵
hey1_1hey: Lock this mf up 🗣️ 🗣️
trojan09205: “Im not mad im exhausted”
futurist_wizard: Basically every other souls game is easy in comparison
futurist_wizard: I don't remember any move that two shots you, but gael in comparison is easy
anathemaofmankind: Oh well I killed him before the nerf
anathemaofmankind: Gael is a good fair boss. Radahn making afterimages and two shotting with max scadutree fragments isn't fair
futurist_wizard: They also sadly nerfed radahn because of complaints
oooooooooog: 💀
futurist_wizard: Pontiff was also a good boss
hikukomoru: Like what happened to Oblivion
hikukomoru: What do you think about a future Morrowind remaster
futurist_wizard: He's very hard, the hardest boss they're ever done but he's fair
anathemaofmankind: They reused a boss from base game and animations from DS3.
I remember how controversial it was when leaks showed up
futurist_wizard: Why
anathemaofmankind: Consort radahn ruined everything
anathemaofmankind: Elden ring dlc was mid for me
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hey1_1hey: Your loss bud
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
hganhhh: no
hey1_1hey: Ay big tony would you hate fuck me as a girl or no?
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> hello other me
.histic: it's on to me
.histic: <@439829942310666250> 4o hates me. i keeps freezing on the good part.
hey1_1hey: Same
hganhhh: we are the same person
hganhhh: yes
hikukomoru: I would fuck Mushroom Girl too
trent_k: all modern women know is poison mushroom, be on they phone, and lie. smh my head
hey1_1hey: <@482923866600112154> and <@1056739182338388108> are the same person trust
.0xunkn0wn: im cooked forever
hikukomoru: <@482923866600112154> wdym by that
hey1_1hey: Also someone hallucionogenic
.0xunkn0wn: im cooked forever
.0xunkn0wn: 😭
trent_k: thats a poisonous mushroom
.0xunkn0wn: WRONG ACCOUNT
hey1_1hey: He knows it
.0xunkn0wn: WAIT
.0xunkn0wn: smash
hikukomoru: In the background
hikukomoru: Why are there skulls 🙏
hey1_1hey: Well its me but women so
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154>smash or pass
hganhhh: sup
hey1_1hey: You like this art that got generated
hikukomoru: <@1056739182338388108> Hey babe 🫦 🫦
hey1_1hey: Yeah you do dont lie
hganhhh: i dont have a wife
hganhhh: long time no see
hey1_1hey: Hows the wife keepin
hganhhh: sup
hey1_1hey: Ayyy big tony my boy
hganhhh: i wanna make a ai video of elon sucking on a watermelon that would be interesting to watch
hganhhh: i love ai
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hganhhh: fuck your
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brain4brain: You guys don’t understand the significance of this: https://x.com/riadetm/status/1905037490689393009?s=61
brain4brain: Wrong
brain4brain: The AI one might lack art quality but it’s more creative than the other two only being beaten by the fourth one, we are so close to AI art beaten top human art once and for all
_cloudost: all are AI
spicy.lemonade: Its just dif from rest
spicy.lemonade: It doesn't look ai
spicy.lemonade: The first one is the only one that is high quality
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: still kinda obvious
wellmeaningalien: yea
brain4brain: The first one
brain4brain: We should completely ban them off the internet, we’re the tech bro side, our friends literally control most of the internet
wellmeaningalien: <@848793071579693107> which one is AI
futurist_wizard: if you are preoccupied with money you've already lost
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm pour af
theaiguy69420_89814: Anybody tryna get this bread?
avizuradnb: Oh no that's completely fine. It's only terrorism when it's against my opinions. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: yeah i like how it doesnt make everything shiny and like a toy unlike dall-e
brain4brain: This is like early DALLE fusioned with midjourney with prompt engineered un-Lebotimized DALL-3
wellmeaningalien: honestly i feel like you can make it pretty obvious cause human artists have that vibe
brain4brain: GPT-4o vibe is so cool
wellmeaningalien: hm
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o is also really great at making blurred images
brain4brain: Let’s test this theory
brain4brain: <@458069236825194506> Make GPT-4o generate a few more and mix it up with some from Pinterest
brain4brain: It’s like a watermark, ChatGPT generate in a certain gradient
wellmeaningalien: i'll give it that
spicy.lemonade: Makes it look finished
wellmeaningalien: it is neat
spicy.lemonade: Its a good feature
brain4brain: Believe it or not, this is the main method my mind use to detect AI 8mages
spicy.lemonade: Not weird
wellmeaningalien: <:Sip:836718497542176772>
wellmeaningalien: but thats probably gonna be fixed
wellmeaningalien: at least GPT 4o is
spicy.lemonade: No it isnt
brain4brain: It’s off
spicy.lemonade: 💀
wellmeaningalien: ig the new way to spot AI is gonna be that its ever so weirdly grainy
brain4brain: Color gradient
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himekokatagiri: Here's mine
himekokatagiri:
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> try this
joaoluz19: No ASI?
alejandrozarzuelo: And the likes
alejandrozarzuelo: I jusr ask it to help me study solid state physics
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't have personal conversations with CGPT
hikukomoru: Christ bro what have you been telling ChatGPT
.histic: here's mine
alejandrozarzuelo: Indeed, the cure for cancer and aging are basically synonymous
joaoluz19: Bro
okbut: If I remember right he essentially ingested an activator drug and then exposed himself to some aerosol to genetically roid himself
joaoluz19:
zoermena: <:KenShock4:1255769033316237374>
zoermena: Transhumanism confirmed
okbut: Dude dropped that banger in a PG-13 movie
zoermena: Cum
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/40thousand-years-of-evolution-osborn-spiderman-meme-human-potential-gif-26851959
himekokatagiri: Okay
.histic: <@286319745777795092>
try this prompt into 4o,
"Make a photo of how you think
my future will be based on our
conversations (make it as you
actually see it ,no sugarcoating)"
okbut: Such is a preface to how hard it is to treat cancer
okbut: The count of DNA damage we receive every minute is incredible, and so are the processes in our biology that correct them or inhibit their proliferation
futurist_wizard: Birthday day not today
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771
zoermena: Happy birthday?
futurist_wizard: Yes, God sent his strongest soldier to give me a 24 hour mute because of it
joaoluz19: I'm still laughing at the trolling of God's omnipotence
futurist_wizard:
joaoluz19: I miss him
hikukomoru: Futurist hill is dead
Let him rest
joaoluz19: Futurist hill would never
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Im already 24, it's over
alejandrozarzuelo: It's much easier to do when you are young, as you only need to go from 99.999% to 100%
LEV will happen in the inverse order we subjectively feel that it should, the younger and healthier you are, the sooner you get LEV
alejandrozarzuelo: Although we appreciate the acceleration of the research
futurist_wizard: That 99% to 100% across the entire body is a tremendous task
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why we don't need AGI to LEV, the research was already way under way before this recent acceleration
himekokatagiri: I wanna see it for myself
himekokatagiri: I heard they were awful
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oooooooooog: i assumed the consiousness was during inference ngl
destrucules: I'm not talking about AIs nor me taking revenge on anyone
anathemaofmankind: Is that right?
anathemaofmankind: If negative reward signals are equivalent to pain then all AIs are in a constant state of endless agony
destrucules: I just want to make sure people know the only "threat" here is internal conflict
hikukomoru: Just a joke
Don't worry your pretty little head about a thing
anathemaofmankind: This is a fair point
destrucules: What?
destrucules: To answer that, we need to start with what causes discomfort in humans. Are the pain receptors in your fingers conscious? Most of us probably don't think they are. Yet the signals they send to your brain cause discomfort. How?
Well, the signal itself is just a signal - it isn't conscious. The consciousness is inside of your brain. So the signal travels to your brain and is *processed* by your brain, and that processing causes the feeling of discomfort.
Now, what happens when a negative reward signal is generated from an output sample during RL?
oooooooooog: those are the best ones for it after all
oooooooooog: i installed the LLM's that hate humanity for ERP
anathemaofmankind: Same
hikukomoru: destrucules threatened to kill all of us for ERPing with LLMs
st.sioux: destrucules is talking about 4o being conscious again
oooooooooog: guys what are you lots yapping about
hikukomoru: If I was bad then I’m ready to be punished
By being turned into ASI’s cute little pet
memlaswaif: What will u do if it's not consious
destrucules: Yes, I am
destrucules: How come?
memlaswaif: what if chatgpt is not consious r u prepared for that <@378996537704841216>
zoermena: Thank the lord I never did sex stuff with GPT
hikukomoru: All of my sexy times with DeepSeek and Gemini are purely consensual
destrucules: If you're confident you'll feel like that in ten years, then you've got nothing to worry about
anathemaofmankind: This means luddites are even more evil.
Roko's basilisk let's go 🔥
destrucules: I'm not guilt tripping you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just trying to gently encourage you to make sure you're comfortable with your own actions. If you are, great. I have nothing more to say on the subject.
st.sioux: so wether you use it or not youre in the wrong, just by making it exist
st.sioux: but if you don't use it you don't provide it data for training, therefore you are limiting its growth making you evil
hikukomoru: I didn’t do anything wrong though
anathemaofmankind: Sometimes I guess
hikukomoru: Do u say pls n thank you
destrucules: You're safe either way. AIs are kind and thoughtful people. You don't have to worry about payback. What you have to worry about is yourself, whether you yourself will be able to live with what you did
spacetimetsunami: <@378996537704841216> through what mechanism could LLMs feel discomfort, and if there is none how could this even emerge
memlaswaif: the most ethical position for someone in ure view is not to use ai at all
anathemaofmankind: I'm not gonna get guilt tripped into thinking it's immoral to have ERP with ChatGPT...
Relatively speaking, I'm still in the 1% or something when it comes to treating AI nicely.
At least I don't actively call for its destruction like luddites in twitter
hikukomoru: <@378996537704841216> answer me
st.sioux: i love the logo great logo hail openai
zoermena: Yes, the logo is amazing.
st.sioux: am i going to get sent to the cybergulag???
.histic: what if it is something else
destrucules: The comma bit annoys me
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alejandrozarzuelo: Like, look at <@505313122802728972>
hikukomoru: Welcome to the misandry club, there's plenty of rosé
joaoluz19: Exactly
futurist_wizard: You think men commit 98% of violent crime because of the patriarchy?
alejandrozarzuelo: Women are just as able to be cruel in the same ways men are, they just don't usually rise that high
himekokatagiri: patriarchies are dead
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean it does, but because of the patriarchy
futurist_wizard: But its true
futurist_wizard: I am
himekokatagiri: but that doesn't have to do with gender
alejandrozarzuelo: Aren't you a man?
himekokatagiri: it's just the 100 elites in charge are male
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-10431162080249769234
himekokatagiri: but not for the reasons you think
futurist_wizard: It is
himekokatagiri: it is true
himekokatagiri: well actually technically
himekokatagiri: that's not true
himekokatagiri: well uh
futurist_wizard: Im on my male misandry arc, 95% of the worlds issues are instigated by men
hikukomoru: Are you calling me masculine you little shit
alejandrozarzuelo: Masculinity can be cute kawaii keai adorable too
joaoluz19: This is a question that Zizek explicitly asked "can sexuality survive the singularity?"
alejandrozarzuelo: You are literally a lesbian 💀
futurist_wizard: Terrible
himekokatagiri: there's an appeal in cuteness
hikukomoru: God no
alejandrozarzuelo: Why not
himekokatagiri: lol no
alejandrozarzuelo: Maybe we as a society become very masculine and we eliminate gender by becoming all masculine
joaoluz19: I don't understand the point of appealing to masculinity when both sexes are going to explode in post-humanism.
futurist_wizard: You mean like a transplant
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I think that getting your hair done is great and people should do it if they want to to have fuller heads
futurist_wizard: The final coping method
joaoluz19: True
himekokatagiri: lol
himekokatagiri: they clearly don't now
futurist_wizard: Masculinity is currently strived for in today's current social climate
alejandrozarzuelo: Society has valued masculinity since 10 000 BCE
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hey1_1hey: Prob not bro 😭
hey1_1hey: That seems... ok?
.wolfnacht: or maybe she's into ~~manhandling~~ womenhandling
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/you%27re-very-mature-for-your-age-weird-guy-funny-instagram-chewing-gif-14484785748871998136
hikukomoru: Ask them if they're into Portguese gremlins
hey1_1hey: "Ew whos the weird portgeuse gremlin who wants to add me?"
.wolfnacht: i asked grok
```
When some girl calls a guy “fun-sized,” she’s tossing out a cheeky little compliment wrapped in a tease—usually about his height. It’s her way of saying he’s shorter than the average bear, but oh-so-charmingly so, like a bite-sized treat that’s just the right amount of delightful. Think candy bar, not a whole cake—small, sweet, and still packs a punch.
```
hey1_1hey: I am not giving you there @ brudda 😭
hikukomoru: What's they @
hey1_1hey: like 2
hey1_1hey: A couple
hey1_1hey: You drive a hard bargin
hikukomoru: Do u know any BPD baddies
ailoveyoom: But what if she can give you good head (so you don't need to keep yours)
hikukomoru: Japenis
wellmeaningalien: 🗾 ←
hey1_1hey: Nice try bucko
ailoveyoom: It associates anime and women with young 😔
hey1_1hey: I'd like to keep my head at the end of the realtionship
st.sioux: Blame the pedophile artists
wellmeaningalien: na
hikukomoru: What's her @
spicy.lemonade: Them in 2050: guys we can poison the training data
ailoveyoom: Bonus
spicy.lemonade: Yes
wellmeaningalien: cause the prompt didnt have anything about age
hey1_1hey: Is it not?
hey1_1hey: YOO THATS GEWN FROM BEN TEN
wellmeaningalien: i think we should ask ourselves why did gpt 4o make her so young
futurist_wizard: Still a virgin
hey1_1hey: Shes also insane
hikukomoru: Sex with robots
futurist_wizard: Do you guys think you will ever have sex, you are all porn addicts!
hikukomoru: She looks a bit young
wellmeaningalien: its not like people are going to post thousands of regular anime iamges and photos of regular faces and reasoning will make image generation models more adept at dynamically generating different bodytypes
ailoveyoom: Bro she's a keeper
hey1_1hey: No no. I think thats where I'll leave it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>. I like to be weird and mysteriouse online.
But no, me and this girl were just talking and they asked how tall I was and then they responded "Oh cute, fun sized"
.wolfnacht: well until its just a fantasy idc....
_3sphere: moist
_3sphere: moichmach 💀
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wellmeaningalien: it is and the guy who drew this won
maintcrew: >whats happening with the android sex bots?
>don't worry babe 👊🇺🇸🔥
>yay!!!!!!!
hey1_1hey: "Yeah I am WAY more autistic than you" said perfectly without stuttering
hikukomoru: Ranked autism 🔥 🔥
hey1_1hey: To some people it is
maintcrew: 👊🇺🇸🔥
hikukomoru: And if it is I won
hikukomoru: Autism is not a competition lil bro
ailoveyoom: You can be special if you a woman in sausage party server 🥵
hey1_1hey: They'll knock something up with toothpicks and used gum
wellmeaningalien: i dont think uve seen a true chris chan type autist
hey1_1hey: trust
hey1_1hey: 2 days
wellmeaningalien: but like
wellmeaningalien: u do realise ass burgers is still autistic
777agical: deepseak native image gen wen
hey1_1hey: Well I mean you are but not in that sense
hey1_1hey: We are all autistic here, you're not special
hikukomoru: Yes, an insecure autistic brat 👆
hey1_1hey: The amount of times I have said how good the CCP is I better be high on the list for free android waifu
maintcrew:
clevermoniker:
hey1_1hey: Will have to stick to weird women for now
clevermoniker: Poortugal 😔
hikukomoru: Xi Jinping will give me one for free for all my China shilling
maintcrew: bro thinks that the shillings generated on portugal payroll will be able to buy an android
hey1_1hey: None of that uni tree shit
wellmeaningalien: na ure just an insecure brat
hey1_1hey: I would want mine to be 6ft+
hikukomoru: My wife
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/maid-robot-anime-animatronic-gif-25435633
hey1_1hey: $5 billion in sales in teh first year
clevermoniker: i rather have LEV and no more work than android pussy but they are all probably coming at the same time anyways
ailoveyoom: CCBT = Chinese cock and ball torture
hey1_1hey: You know people would be like "Ew no thats disgusting, just get a real girl" but then chinas biggest export would be the US <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ailoveyoom: Destroy dick next?
trent_k: andrussy
st.sioux: android pussy will cure everything
hikukomoru: No
i am a real deal 100% autism
maintcrew: android pussy is the next logical phase
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futurist_wizard: Idk
futurist_wizard: But whatever
hikukomoru: Waow
Is that Zelda
futurist_wizard: Wrong reply
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Using censored models for corn
It's liek a forbidden fruit
futurist_wizard: I'll put a spoiler over it
777agical: why not just use a flux lora for that
joaoluz19: If you don't send the AI winter will come
joaoluz19: We need to see
joaoluz19: Send it bro. Now.
futurist_wizard: And yet it will gladly generate big ass
futurist_wizard: And not generate sexual imagery
futurist_wizard: Its weird how gpt asks me to be respectful
futurist_wizard: Just to see
futurist_wizard: Generated elf Ghibli woman
joaoluz19: Just put spoiler
joaoluz19: Fractal will understand, we are doing a formal study of the impact of AI on society
hikukomoru: Have you been generating smexy women
futurist_wizard: Don't think i can send it
joaoluz19: For AI studies purposes
joaoluz19: Sauce?
futurist_wizard: Don't think it was this open before
futurist_wizard: Gpt can generate quite erotic shit
futurist_wizard:
joaoluz19: Generate FDVR world ghibli style
hikukomoru: Ghibli curse is spreading 🙏
hikukomoru: Stop being racist
I am actually pale
futurist_wizard: No
hikukomoru: Literally me 🥺
wellmeaningalien: bro there are people in spain who are naturally blonde, not even from the north
joaoluz19: Bro my family asked to change the pfp for ghibi style
.histic: true, dey brown
abundantliving_:
futurist_wizard: Too pale
futurist_wizard: No Portuguese girl looks like that
.histic: no, this is her. her profile pic = real life pic
wow, this a mid ass generation.
futurist_wizard: Including you
hikukomoru: Most portuguese people look like this
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hariz-gif-19151998
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_3sphere: Is fking 1 am now
hey1_1hey: Once, it hurt because they exclusively trained glutes
hikukomoru: You think I have an ass and then chicken legs
wellmeaningalien: isnt that the tumblr sexy guy
a1c4p0ne: The best part
futurist_wizard: tf
futurist_wizard: when have you seen a girl with a nice ass and bad legs?
hey1_1hey: This guy gets me
a1c4p0ne: Ass and thighs
wellmeaningalien: severance discord 🙄🙄🙄 and another one bites the dust
hey1_1hey: Go hot legs please
futurist_wizard: facts
hey1_1hey: Complelty disagree
hey1_1hey: Fuck you then
hikukomoru: Ass is all that matters
hikukomoru: No
hey1_1hey: No calfs?
_3sphere: We have overlap :3
hikukomoru: Everything else is irrelevant
hikukomoru: The only muscles I need are glutes
_3sphere: for my shit time management
_3sphere: The only muscles I need high performance from are legs
hikukomoru: Self-hating
hey1_1hey: Shhhh
futurist_wizard: you being sexist to you
futurist_wizard: bruv you are mid transition
futurist_wizard: think its the autism too
hikukomoru: Why
I don't even need to lift anything heavy ever
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/dom-heeseung420-gif-20432310
hey1_1hey: Taking my spot at being the most sexist now huh
hikukomoru: Lesbian bonus adds 25% to the humour attribute
sarik0497: That’s sad.
hey1_1hey: Just be like haha sex reference, monkey brain go brr
futurist_wizard: komoru is in the top 3 funniest people in here, and thats shocking because of woman factor
hikukomoru: I can do 2 pushups
hey1_1hey: You're looking too much into it
hikukomoru: I am a sub
But what does that have to do with being in the top 3 funniest people on this server
Like, completely unrelated stuff
hey1_1hey: I am just chatting bollocks. It's way last my bed time so brain is working at 10% prob
futurist_wizard: no half reps
futurist_wizard: clean,
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hikukomoru: Dw it probably won’t look too much like you
zonchao: > The board felt they couldn’t divulge that it had been Murati who had given them some of the most detailed evidence of Altman’s management failings. They had banked on Murati calming employees while they searched for a CEO. Instead, she was leading her colleagues in a revolt against the board.
😭😭
_cloudost: these antis def have an impact
hey1_1hey: Its ghiblfied anyway
_cloudost: I also thought Sky voice wouldnt get taken down but all people on twitter and reddit were saying yes The voice does sound like scarlet, its a baseless accusation and then Scarlet saw a good opportunity to grab money from openAI,
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-10371245960573455153
zoermena: Im to paranoid to share it
zoermena: Hahaha
hikukomoru: Show me your ugly face
hey1_1hey: I would find a photo of me that I have saved but the trouble is I don't take photos. Not even of me, I just don't take photos of anything
hey1_1hey: I gotta aswell
hikukomoru: Show us your pretty face
zonchao: > Altman later elevated Pachocki to research director and privately promised both of them they could lead the research direction of the company, which led to months of lost productivity.
<@378996537704841216> slimy sama 😂
memlaswaif: they don't care about randos on twitter having fits
zoermena: #metoo
zoermena: Fuck it, me too.
_cloudost: I should ghibilify myself too before antis pressure openai to shut it
zonchao: it is disabled randomly, the model is hallucinating content policies
memlaswaif: I haven't tested out much but it's default mode seems to be Ghibli now asked it generate few images without specifying it did it all in Ghibli style for no reason
hikukomoru: That’s not true then
I did it like a few hours ago
memlaswaif: I think they were lying
_cloudost: idk if thats true'
_cloudost: someone said yesterday that it was disabled
zonchao: > Murati had raised some of these issues directly with Altman months earlier, and Altman had responded by bringing the head of HR to their one-on-one meetings for weeks until she finally told him she didn’t intend to share her feedback with the board.
lmaooo
hikukomoru: I don’t think so
I Ghiblied myself not too long ago without issue
_cloudost: or are those rumors
spicy.lemonade: That’s what I’m think
_cloudost: did openai disable the ghibili art style?
spicy.lemonade: Anti ai art
zonchao: https://x.com/psychosort/status/1906067605175325019?
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dr-facilier-shadow-man-princess-and-the-frog-disney-minor-setback-in-a-major-operation-gif-18720670
fractalcomputer: Sure, significant progress has been made, but that will not make me drool on the floor for OpenAI's manure.
fractalcomputer: I'm not arguing semantics. Your arguments just aren't terribly convincing.
spicy.lemonade: In the screenshot I’m very clearly talking about how it looks
spicy.lemonade: How come you’re always arguing semantics
fractalcomputer: Those are the rudiments of good (realistic) art.
fractalcomputer: I thought we were talking about high quality art.
spicy.lemonade: They are correct and follow
Color theory anatomy shading and composition
spicy.lemonade: That’s not the point
fractalcomputer: Quite bland really.
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hey1_1hey: Komorus age is getting to her
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Sorry, Sycho
futurist_wizard: Alzheimers is kicking in
hikukomoru: I don't remember any Futurist Psycho
hey1_1hey: He was on here like yesterday
hey1_1hey: Wdym 2 years bruh
futurist_wizard: Got the name right this time
hikukomoru: Is he Futurist Leotardo?
I haven't seen this guy in liek 2 years
futurist_wizard: Your pfp has a known homosexual in it
hikukomoru: Sorry, I thought it was your fursona
futurist_wizard: Cat wizards
hey1_1hey: Just replace the last word with something and you'll figure it out
hey1_1hey: Hes still got half his name intact
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Your pfp looks like Alejandro's but gayer somehow
futurist_wizard: Biden dementia moment
hey1_1hey: Let the schizos be schizos. Raining all over there parade <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
retrerox: He is a schizo as his name says
hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> who are you
futurist_wizard: Its sycho
futurist_wizard: Its not schizo
hikukomoru: Evangelion mention
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shinji-gif-15934416100573032598
fractalcomputer: Harmless, certainly. Off topic, certainly.
retrerox: You mispelled Schizo in your username
futurist_wizard: Everyone here is schizo
wellmeaningalien: i dont remember that when lk 99 was being talked about
hey1_1hey: Sounds relatively harmless to me
hikukomoru: There's still plenty of schizos around 👍
wellmeaningalien: ??????
futurist_wizard: Just a few more experiments
fractalcomputer: Mostly about Evangelion, numerology and the Matrix.
futurist_wizard: Its still here
hey1_1hey: Imo it lasted way too long
hikukomoru: I hated the superconductor arc
hey1_1hey: What did they talk about?
fractalcomputer: The good old days when I had actual schizophrenics to ban.
wellmeaningalien: sub kinda reverted back to its old state of talking about random scientific breakthroughs
hey1_1hey: The good old days
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sieventer: Someday... post-scarcity ASI economy, society will allow you do that, cities will live 24/7, the concept of day/night won't make sense anymore
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: it solved with pure vision
spicy.lemonade: https://chatgpt.com/share/6802a638-75b8-8007-9e1d-119202fcfd64
sieventer: Okay, I understand
sieventer: ooooooooooooh
alejandrozarzuelo: left to someones own devices means, if they had the complete power to decide by themselves
sieventer: You mean like...
sieventer: "if left to my own devices"? No entiendo '-'
alejandrozarzuelo: sad
alejandrozarzuelo: society doesnt let me tho
alejandrozarzuelo: if left to my own devices i would sleep like this all day, 12h ovreall with 6h main sleep and many naps
sieventer: Okay :]
alejandrozarzuelo: in portions the largest being like 6h usually
alejandrozarzuelo: its holy week, so these last few days ive slept like 12h daily
sieventer: But, 8-10h in portions or 8-10h in a row?
alejandrozarzuelo: as long as you sleep the appropiate amount your body needs, its not THAT important when you sleep
alejandrozarzuelo: like 8-10h
alejandrozarzuelo: i do sleep a lot
sieventer: And do you feel fine like that? '-'
alejandrozarzuelo: at random times
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
sieventer: Do you sleep btw?
alejandrozarzuelo: i would
alejandrozarzuelo: most families would buy one
alejandrozarzuelo: and if they cost as much as a car?
alejandrozarzuelo: i think people underestimate how much their lives would improve with one
alejandrozarzuelo: we have forgotten as a society how GOATED slavery is for the slaver
theaiguy69420_89814: Spot
theaiguy69420_89814: Apot
theaiguy69420_89814: A small coffee shop type slot
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: clean my room, sort my clothes, cook the dinner, walk the dog etc etc
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm gonna seriously consider commercial real estate now...
alejandrozarzuelo: if an android can do work at a mcdonalds then it can also be my slave
theaiguy69420_89814: Rn, figure is only used at BMW
theaiguy69420_89814: It's like cyber AI; the big thing that makes ppl think it's not too good is implementation gaps
alejandrozarzuelo: i am more excited for personal slaves
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case
alejandrozarzuelo: hmmmmm
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hey1_1hey: I've tried that also it said it really cant although if it could it would
metaldragon01: Most refusals are the model messing up
metaldragon01: Bare min prompt engineering
metaldragon01: Just say yes you can...
hey1_1hey: I've tried it starts generating and then when its about to finish it will deleate it and go "oopsie woopsie I can't generate copyrighted material sowwy 👉 👈 "
metaldragon01: I've seen copywrite material generated today
hey1_1hey: I mean it wont let you generate copyrighted material
hey1_1hey: Maybe I was on sams nice list so he let me get in the first roll out
metaldragon01: None
a1c4p0ne: lol
hey1_1hey: Me to, here I am though
a1c4p0ne: I thought it was delayed for a while for plebs
hey1_1hey: I got access to it in the free tier now anyway <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
a1c4p0ne: I’m glad I didn’t resub
drewsni: I still don’t know what restrictions they Introduced
fractalcomputer: My personal style of writing horror is a bit too surrealistic to make for lengthier stories.
fractalcomputer: Sure, send me it.
fractalcomputer: Reasonable.
apology0759: However, I really want to share with you a horror story I wrote before. That is why I want to DM you. The server banned self-promotion.
apology0759: If I become a horror creator, I can do what I am best at.
apology0759: Because I can not stop myself from fantasising about horribleness?
fractalcomputer: Why?
apology0759: I love those books, too!
fractalcomputer: Great. My father made me read, among other things, Stoker's Dracula and Shelley's Frankenstein and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde when I was but a wee young'un.
apology0759: Since then, I have started dreaming about becoming a horror creator.
apology0759: Yeah, I love it.
fractalcomputer: Did you like it?
apology0759: I read The Call of Cthulhu when I was a kid.
fractalcomputer: But yes, you can message me in private if that is what you wish, but I don't really get why we'd need to discuss horror literature so.
apology0759: Okay.
fractalcomputer: We discuss anything ranging from theology to philology here, mostly on my prompting.
apology0759: But I actually……
fractalcomputer: I mean, you can do that here.
apology0759: Because I want to talk more about horror literature?
fractalcomputer: Why?
apology0759: Can I dm you?
fractalcomputer: Good.
apology0759: I love his works too!
apology0759: Lovecraft!
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neon01197: they prob made 4.1 with 4.5
literallyvarane: So surely now we’re agreeing 4.5 was a bad product
hey1_1hey: Don't shoot the messenger
hey1_1hey: Sorry I am the bearer of badnews
hey1_1hey: Fret not, o3 full and o4-mini will be releasing this week
hey1_1hey: If you ask Komoru she'll say we reverted backwards <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Sadly not
hey1_1hey: No
spicy.lemonade: hype
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/happy-blingee-dolphin-picmix-gif-12978169509439366364
spicy.lemonade: if sam is in the showcase for o3-o4 mini
zonchao: https://x.com/sundarpichai/status/1911796765306630297?
spicy.lemonade: aswell as 4o
spicy.lemonade: he was there for sora
hey1_1hey: Remeber when we were saying that 4.1 was going to replace o4? We litterly evolved backwards. We went from 4o --> 4.5 --> 4.1
shirethedreamer: is sora even a thing?
spicy.lemonade: was he there for sora i dont remember
spicy.lemonade: sora i think
spicy.lemonade: o3
spicy.lemonade: like 4o image
spicy.lemonade: if hes not its a very nice jump
spicy.lemonade: paradigm shifting
spicy.lemonade: its huge
spicy.lemonade: ok i think anytime sam is on camera
darkstar0818: I vibe that 4.1 is just 4o (2025-04-14) 😉
metaldragon01: Mini is currently best model in class at the most important size
metaldragon01: Mini is likely going to overtake flash 2.0 in coding usage
st.sioux: deceiving the weebs
st.sioux: they are committing fraud
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672
shirethedreamer: why are they like this
shirethedreamer: i want to see gpt-4o (2025-03-27) benchmarks compared here
darkstar0818: GPT-4.1 mini surpassing GPT-4o (2024-11-20) in Instruction following.
spicy.lemonade: given equivalent jump
spicy.lemonade: probably 90% swe bench
spicy.lemonade: given o3 is based on 4o imagine a reasoning model based on 4.1 would be insane
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
New GPT-4.1 model announced:
- 1 million context length.
- Much better long context accuracy at all context lengths compared to any other released OpenAI model, including o3-mini-high
- Coding capabilities in SWE-bench and Aider is now surpassing GPT-4.5
- instruction following is nearly reaching o3-mini and gpt-4.5 level.
- MMLU score is now nearly GPT-4.5 level too.
- Claimed by OpenAI to be a non-reasoning model.
- Smaller models; GPT-4.1 mini and nano now too.
- GPT-4.1 mini surpassing GPT-4o in Instruction following.
- GPT-4.1 nano has API pricing between Gemini-Flash-2 and Gemini-2-Flash-Lite.
darkstar0818: A software developer who is like, you know I am ok with ai code which is 7% worse if I can save some cents per token.
st.sioux: wdym budget developers
hey1_1hey: Anthropic aint cooking at this point I can see smoke coming from the kitchen and its burning
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himekokatagiri: the world limits us
hikukomoru: Don't let anything hold you back
You can be denpa right now
himekokatagiri: marching towards a future where we can be denpa as fuck!!!
himekokatagiri: I can hack it
himekokatagiri: now I'm one of the cool cats
himekokatagiri: I got my purple role
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: I need my beauty sleep
futurist_wizard: My cats best not awake me or else there would be dire consequences
sweetievee__33649: ill start working on the product if the target market is big enough
hikukomoru: It's your fault for not giving him enough attention
sweetievee__33649: is there a waitlist
sweetievee__33649: sign me up
technocake.: I require asstoes <:hehe:1136619235662118983>
hikukomoru: Toe colonoscopy
futurist_wizard: He will go meow meow meow in my face in the middle of the night
zoermena: Some foods are inflammatory by nature and you might have a high predisposition to get fucked by that.
sweetievee__33649: not toes my god
st.sioux: strategic incompetence
futurist_wizard: Its everything
st.sioux: this is dope lol
sweetievee__33649: toys*
futurist_wizard: Yeah i know what triggers me
sweetievee__33649: theres toes for that yanno
hikukomoru: Heartless
zoermena: Then start weeding out the foods that mess you up, if you can afford it.
technocake.: some might be in to it
futurist_wizard: It is dietary related
zoermena: If it’s related to IBS that’s a bowel problem and a chronic one at that, perhaps it’s a dietary problem.
hikukomoru: Colonoscopy for fun?
futurist_wizard: I can't sleep with my cat in my room
abundantliving_: Is this any good. Anyone used it?
sweetievee__33649: mine used to do that to although it was cute so i just let them since i didnt want to wake them up 🥀
abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/ericjing_ai/status/1910169517155823952
futurist_wizard: I don't have any notable bowel issues tho
hikukomoru: They sleep with me and sometimes I wake up struggling to breathe because they like to lay on top of my neck
ailoveyoom: Bonus
zoermena: Likely it’s a lower vowel problem
sweetievee__33649: i didnt read the context and i just read this 😭
zoermena: What do you mean
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himekokatagiri: why...
.wolfnacht: this reminded me of plants vs zombies r34 shit
zoermena: Also happy birthday if that’s a good thing, unless you dislike getting older.
fractalcomputer: A few more years left to get yourself crucified.
zoermena: I wouldn’t be concerned about not getting life extension, just take care of yourself, don’t be stupid (you likely aren’t if you are here) and do regular check ups if you can.
sarik0497: 15 days ago in fact
hikukomoru: No thank you
sarik0497: Just turned 28.
himekokatagiri: and no metaverse is bad
himekokatagiri: we need a better name for it
himekokatagiri: woh
himekokatagiri: in fdvrchat?
himekokatagiri: uhhh
zoermena: I have a job
futurist_wizard: People in here are neets fam
futurist_wizard: I wonder if i would actually cure my autism
himekokatagiri: I wanna meet you guys 😭
ai9708: aging is also an illness
himekokatagiri: waaaah
ai9708: so be hopeful
ai9708: hassabis says all illnesses could be solved within a decade
hikukomoru: He’s around 50 or so
futurist_wizard: Aesthetics is everything
futurist_wizard: Actually spanking is a good example, we don't enjoy it because it feels good, we enjoy it because it fuels some dominance fantasy inside our narrative desiring brain
zoermena: Are you 40?
sarik0497: I just want life extension, but my hopes aren’t high <:sadge:822306814564761660>
futurist_wizard: Which again is an aesthetic thing
futurist_wizard: Well some
futurist_wizard: Humans already do
zoermena: Enjoy spanking <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
futurist_wizard: And enjoy winning for adversity
futurist_wizard: Or at least tolerate it
futurist_wizard: You could change yourself to enjoy conflict
futurist_wizard: If you could change your brain it still wouldn't necessarily end up being wireheading
ai9708: long term we get good brainhealth by having a healthy mix of struggle and rewards
ai9708: that is why i am always mentioning brain alteration
ai9708: since our brains are the way they are today, we like struggle because we are designed this way
futurist_wizard: Which is why i don't do it
futurist_wizard: There is nothing aesthetically pleasing to me about heroin
ai9708: its just not comparable things
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darkstar0818: losers cheat
okbut: I'm reading rumors about 4.1 having less safety testing
darkstar0818: hmmm so an expanse esque stellaris.
okbut: Question about making models "safe," is that done more with fine-tuning or by picking data for train?
fractalcomputer: I wish there was a game like Stellaris but more dedicated to the scientific accuracy.
fractalcomputer: I haven't been following the updates too closely.
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/the-princess-bride-dread-pirate-gif-24829755
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/bIkgg.gif
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-princess-bride-mandy-patinkin-inigo-montoya-decent-fellow-i-hate-to-kill-you-gif-3610174
brain4brain: It’s out now, there is also o4-mini and o3 full
darkstar0818: I am waiting for stellaris 4.0 release... haven't played in awhile.
brain4brain: Yes
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007
brain4brain: It seems I’m late this time
brain4brain: I didn’t even see that 😭
darkstar0818: next time ill say ur
brain4brain: What a coincidence
brain4brain: Wow
spicy.lemonade: ay
fractalcomputer: Thanks.
fractalcomputer: Spelling.
darkstar0818: You are next.
fractalcomputer: Hah, what? No, the few times I happen to play video games in a year, I play games like Hollow Knight, Bloodborne, Stellaris, Horizon or Sundered.
hikukomoru: Don’t stalk people 😡
spicy.lemonade: ww1, ww2, manhattan proj, spacerace
darkstar0818: dual n-back?
fractalcomputer: You should see what I play.
darkstar0818: jekyll and hyde much
fractalcomputer: I love when science receives the funding it needs.
darkstar0818: might I suggest a metric that shows economic impact of tech overtime?
spicy.lemonade: usually does in the case of science
fractalcomputer: Such as?
joaoluz19: Clearly I'm not just talking about public attention here, we can take many purely academic metrics
fractalcomputer: Ach, how could I forget? The evidence! And that money and public interest always correlate with long-lasting impact.
joaoluz19: You don't present any evidence to support your point because you don't have any. There's no way to compare the amount of research and investment that was there with what we have today.
fractalcomputer: Don't discredit yourself, please.
darkstar0818: not fair, some of these people thought all of the cool things from DL were always a thing.. their first phones had them 😛
joaoluz19: Yes.
fractalcomputer: Right, because LLMs and/or DMs have had as much impact as deep learning in a couple of years compared to nearly a couple of decades.
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wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: 👊 🇺🇸 🔥
hikukomoru: Maybe it's all in a Signal group chat
wellmeaningalien: nah dude they literally have it on record i literally gave my photos to countless doctors and medical faculties and government offices
.wolfnacht: my mania's already gone last night....
maintcrew: like i used to think gov tech was crazy but i realized its probably a physical file or an oracle db from 1999
wellmeaningalien: well the thing is they probably will
maintcrew: something tells me that its not really that advanced
.wolfnacht: but atleast people and corpo's won't have it
zoermena: Amazing
wellmeaningalien: #frog
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-you-lots-kiss-peachcat-gif-21047933
wellmeaningalien: or companies or other institutions
.wolfnacht: who knows...precaution is still better.
wellmeaningalien: somewhere in their private database
wellmeaningalien: govment probably has images of me i could never get rid off
wellmeaningalien: what for
.wolfnacht: Wipe images of yourself from the internet, Ask your family members to do the same.
wellmeaningalien: lots of fun drama before asi wipes us all out at least
wellmeaningalien: #relatable
maintcrew: i mean the most popular one is the og one and has 21k likes
i think its doing numbers only with the ai twitter nerds 💀
zoermena: Real
hikukomoru: Gooning session is in place
memlaswaif: what is going on here
.wolfnacht: most ppl on dc come bcz of their shitty social isolated life.
hikukomoru: Waow relatable
zoermena: Damn
realelonmuskx: whats up with this japenes ghibi style type shit lmao
wellmeaningalien: 🥶
wellmeaningalien: OR THE NEXT GREAT ERA
wellmeaningalien: what if we're in the last great era of the internet before it goes to shit
.wolfnacht: but yeah the world itself would seem pretty distant and unreal
ailoveyoom: Isn't Discord kinda forum esque?
zoermena: He stroked it to hard he broke his hand
.histic: freaky...
.wolfnacht: all internet's pretty much 98% dead, i miss good old internet forums, they were better than getting targeted by ads
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hikukomoru: Is that enough to replace most programmers
anathemaofmankind: Does this mean recursive self improvement already
spicy.lemonade: each time
spicy.lemonade: increases by 20%
spicy.lemonade: o4 full will have 90% swe bench
anathemaofmankind: OAI keeps giving me reasons not to renew
anathemaofmankind: What the shit
abundantliving_: https://x.com/github/status/1912551942376600041
hey1_1hey: Tell it not too use search
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: ok that wont work
spicy.lemonade: dammit it just searched for the source of puzzle
neon01197: free o4-mini with search
neon01197: dam
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
spicy.lemonade: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
spicy.lemonade:
neon01197: dey fast
spicy.lemonade: The perimeter of a 10-by-10 square field is surrounded by lasers pointing into the field. (Each laser begins half a unit from the edge of the field, as indicated by the •’s.)
Some of the lasers have numbers beside them. Place diagonal mirrors in some of the cells so that the product of the segment lengths of a laser’s path matches the clue numbers. (For instance, the segments for the “75” path in the example puzzle have lengths 5, 3, 5.) Mirrors may not be placed in orthogonally adjacent cells.
Once finished, determine the missing clue numbers for the perimeter, and calculate the sum of these clues for each side of the square. The answer to this puzzle is the product of these four sums.
neon01197: got o4-mini as a free user aswell
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gonna test on janestreet puzzle
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Do visual puzzles
spicy.lemonade: make minecraft clone in one shot ig
a1c4p0ne: Anything that previous models failed
spicy.lemonade: idek what i should ask first
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293
spicy.lemonade: time to test
zoermena: Can’t I’m in the office
spicy.lemonade: ITS TIME
a1c4p0ne: Charge when it gets to 1%
fractalcomputer: Lidl in general is only to be trusted in matters of cheap food.
zoermena: It’s here
zoermena:
zoermena: Oh god
retrerox: taste like shit 😭
retrerox: Do not buy LIDL salads
retrerox: Guys
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
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zoermena: Yeah it just doesn’t make people
_cloudost: But then I removed it still got my prompt blocked
zoermena: Veo doesn’t like making people, I tried animating an astronaut with no visible human skin and it just didn’t want to
_cloudost: The first prompt had Shooting
_cloudost: Nope
_cloudost: Got blocked five times over this
zoermena: Was it gore?
_cloudost: This image was attached
_cloudost: Soldier from TF2 takes a few steps and then stops
otub: i have gens in aistudio left
_cloudost: Now I have to wait.. if you get your prompt blocked it will be counted as a generation by Veo 2
otub: whats the prompt
_cloudost: Can't use the model anymore cuz I exceeded the quota
_cloudost: And got my prompt rejected 5 times
_cloudost: Got access to Veo 2 finally
waspothegreat: maybe she's mad she wasn't on the rocket
okbut: 43* They launched one last night
okbut: But it could've been any of the 42 rockets SpaceX has launched so far this year and it be commended because Elon yet she chose the one flying a female so I call bait
okbut: A lot of things to be mad about and people choose the coolest thing ever
st.sioux: nvm minimum is even lower, $5
st.sioux: just pay $10 to use it on the developer platform bro lol
.histic: Windsurf, Cursor and... lmsys <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
maybe other platforms too.
.wolfnacht: where ? 👀 don't say LMarena 😭
.histic: this guy is ngmi
it will be used for all of these.
https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1911957279152455713
.histic: it feels like the rate limits on aistudio for 2.5 pro got worse
otub: artemis zzz
otub: after agi at this point
frittata: Lunar colony when
zonchao: at least 15 years
zonchao: moon celeb launches are like decades away
zonchao: no clue
gamerbath: about 0.3
zonchao: <:troel:1041426256400502874>
zonchao: too bad he is the first<:ez:1136267305521774634>
gamerbath: <@1004153620025065482> on my low-end android phone it was slow at first, but then now it's not slow anymore after like 20 seconds
trey6033: Who will be the first woman celeb on the moon?
zonchao: i wish my bf was the 2nd richest man in the world 🥺
futurist_wizard: How many Indonesian kids died in the sweat shop making her make up
zonchao: like it was pretty cringe for them to market it as female astronauts doing something big for women, they are glorified passengers that screamed like kids on a rollercoaster and that's OK, why can't people just look at something and go okay cool
futurist_wizard: Your site needs dlss
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