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trojan09205: Maybe try a more restrictive system prompt and low temperature
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.0xunkn0wn: even though the fix was easier
.0xunkn0wn: so it just rewrote the code completely 😭
.0xunkn0wn: i asked it to fix me one line of code
.0xunkn0wn: guys what do i do gemini 2.5 pro is rewriting too much shit 🙏
ldj: The article isn’t an official post by Nous Research
ldj: Be weary of what you see online
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, it seems like a group of troubled people that are desperately clinging onto a fake reality
theaiguy69420_89814: This seems extreme
trent_k: it seems to me that most of AO3 is jack off material
theaiguy69420_89814: I think they get the idea, it's a new tool, some of the stuff is theft, etc
theaiguy69420_89814: I mean, typical artists aren't this hateful
trent_k: AO3 is much weirder than that
theaiguy69420_89814: Is it because this is another reminder to them that their efforts in memorizing Harry Potter's birthday was worthless?
trent_k: you've heard it all before
trent_k: basically the typical artist cope about how training an AI on something is the same as stealing it
theaiguy69420_89814: Sorry, why?
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/mermaid-melody-pichi-pichi-cry-about-it-sob-seethe-gif-21116177
trojan09205: Lol u arent exaggerating thats a shit ton of reports
trent_k: 🤓
trent_k: 😏 When fandom gets mad about something...
trent_k: >
> AO3userwhoisnothappy
> 6 days ago
>
> You're waking the sleeping giant by publishing an AO3 scrape here. Fandom is VIOLENTLY anti-AI right now.
>
> Expect to be fighting DMCA takedown notices for the next century because once word gets out, everyone and their brother is going to be coming for this data. When fandom gets mad about something... ask app developers that try and make a profit off the archive.
>
> This isn't a threat, honest, this is "Are you sure you know what you're in for once this gets into the general fandom zeitgeist?"
trent_k: someone uploaded several million AO3 stories to HuggingFace and you could power a small country with the seethe this has generated
trent_k: they fucking hate AI
trent_k: "archive of our own" is a fanfic site, for context
trent_k: https://huggingface.co/datasets/nyuuzyou/archiveofourown/discussions
trent_k: it's really fucking funny
trent_k: guys check this out
trent_k: # emergency 🚨
trojan09205: This is me
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-25989026
theaiguy69420_89814: <:doubt:1241973773683654719>
ldj: <a:happi:1024879860197376010>
ldj: Here is a video of me rn:
theaiguy69420_89814: As well, source?
theaiguy69420_89814: Proof?
ldj: Because I woke up happy
theaiguy69420_89814: Why
ldj: Why you using that emoji lol
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hikukomoru: If there is quasar alpha do they also have quasar sigma
spicy.lemonade: Optimus is better than quasar
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: you dont know if quasar alpha is mini
spicy.lemonade: A mini and normal
spicy.lemonade: They are dropping 2
spicy.lemonade: It says in article
spicy.lemonade: How
wellmeaningalien: you dont know that
spicy.lemonade: Wait for Optimus scores
spicy.lemonade: Quasar alpha is mini
wellmeaningalien: doesnt mean anything
spicy.lemonade: So wait
spicy.lemonade: Lmao
spicy.lemonade: Means today
spicy.lemonade: Even sooner than next week
anathemaofmankind: 4.5 has 128k context though?
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: so will gpt 4.1 and gpt 4.1 mini be the base fr o4 and o4-mini
hikukomoru: I don't read bro
spicy.lemonade: In the article
precariousworlds.: ? Tesla Optimus?
spicy.lemonade: O3 and o4
spicy.lemonade: They said this comes after
spicy.lemonade: Along the way
spicy.lemonade: They clearly found better methods
hikukomoru: Damn bruh I wanted o3 or o4 not this shit
spicy.lemonade: I think they are just forgetting 4.5 exists lol
wellmeaningalien: context window is effectively slightly worse than gpt 4.5
spicy.lemonade: And Optimus just dropped
spicy.lemonade: Holy
metaldragon01: It's very good for free
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: Quasar alpha is 4.1 mini
metaldragon01: Mini upgrade matters more
spicy.lemonade: 1 mil context
spicy.lemonade: Secret model demolishing other base models
precariousworlds.: what is quasar alpha?
wellmeaningalien: cant wait for google to release gemini 1.6
spicy.lemonade: 4.1
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st.sioux: parallel computing
st.sioux: i just found he is writing some cuda type shit
st.sioux: i looked him up what is he doing?
metaldragon01: They aren't petty. They are serious about agi though
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: rumor has it they're planning for R2 to crash not just the stock market, but also Sam's ego
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: 2 words, Victor Taelin
metaldragon01: o1.ai already merge into alibaba/qwen
metaldragon01: At this point deepseek is shitting in someones cheerios.
I'm not sure we don't see at least 1 notable lab merge or shut down in 12 months
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
metaldragon01: Pray for llama 4 because deepseek isn't slowing down
metaldragon01: This year keeps delivering
metaldragon01: Tsk but a minor upgrade 😏
metaldragon01:
metaldragon01: Seems possible. Should be close.
spicy.lemonade: If 2.0 pro beats o1 pro and o3 mini high for very little itl be so good
metaldragon01: Openai has lead innovation by a mile.
metaldragon01: I wonder what openai will create next though.
Very very curious about how they can offer gpt 5 for free
metaldragon01: Cost is everything tbh
metaldragon01: Google thinking and R2 will likely set the new standard for thinking models
spicy.lemonade: 20% nice
.histic: https://youtu.be/M3b59lZYBW8?si=kNHtcqPY9ZjdY9_L&t=2063
Francis: "And we haven't been able to test o3 on high-compute settings. At all.", "I can make a guess. I guess based on what we saw on o3-low & other models. I think you might get up to like 15 maybe even 20% if you were maxing out the compute setting and spending like 10K per task for instance".
brain4brain: Because that mean AGI would come even sooner
brain4brain: But that’s a good thing
brain4brain: Close enough
spicy.lemonade: That’s o3 low
brain4brain:
brain4brain: I predicted the 5% of o3
.histic: aw
https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1904348005060522422
drewsni: This is bait everyone
tse5_v6o: Chatbot gonna chatbot
777agical: https://x.com/paulgauthier/status/1904304052500148423?s=46
tse5_v6o: Prove me wrong
tse5_v6o: AGI is not going to happen
professorheaven: Literally cursed by success
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I'd hope so, although its time for me to get to bed. Sleep is important for learning after all
hganhhh:
joaoluz19: Cool, by doing this I think you can understand any ML paper.
hey1_1hey: Thats what I usually do, just keep on asking questions, and more questions and then even more
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spicy.lemonade: wait wait
hikukomoru: You two look so cute together ☺️
hey1_1hey: What server actually is it?
trent_k: i put that im 29, dont blow my cover 🕵️
spicy.lemonade: this is insane
spicy.lemonade: 💀
anathemaofmankind: I'm identifying as a girl in the server so I can be cute
hey1_1hey: "Yeah we are 21 and 23"
spicy.lemonade: said i was 18
spicy.lemonade: 18
spicy.lemonade: i did
spicy.lemonade: wait
spicy.lemonade: didnt say my age
spicy.lemonade:
trent_k: <@471334973379706900> how old did you tell them you were
hey1_1hey: BRO WHAT
trent_k: Gonna tell them this is a pic of me and spicy
spicy.lemonade: or sketch
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: if they ask for layers just ask AI togenerate 1 layer below
spicy.lemonade: only post sudo american comic art
spicy.lemonade: dont post anything super detailed
spicy.lemonade: we gotta be slick about the art we post
hey1_1hey: I need the lore
hey1_1hey: What server you on lmao
trent_k: 🕵️
hikukomoru: You missed out on so much lore
trent_k: we're spies. this is deep cover
anathemaofmankind: It took like one minute
hey1_1hey: Why are trent and lemonade dating 😭
spicy.lemonade: poly gay they them mninority interacial couple
trent_k: hahaha same
hey1_1hey: What on gods green earth have I walked in on
anathemaofmankind: BRUH
anathemaofmankind: LMAO
anathemaofmankind: The mods will think something is up lmao 💀
spicy.lemonade: 💀
trent_k: spicy is the main one, because he's alpha as fuck
spicy.lemonade: BRO
trent_k: we're a throuple
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himekokatagiri: oh
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-tuff-burt-burt-gif-10321675392694249548
fractalcomputer: I'm the second seniormost moderator on the subreddit. Anemone is the current owner of the subreddit.
himekokatagiri: It's okay we can fix you
hikukomoru: That was already public information 🙏
himekokatagiri: 🚬
himekokatagiri: the secret owner is amongst us
darkstar0818: We going to find out you a 53 year old bald man from Estonia?
fractalcomputer: Who?
st.sioux: just drink 4 cans of coffee like <@471334973379706900> and take an ambien when you need to crash
himekokatagiri: Sashinii yeah
hikukomoru: I wonder
himekokatagiri: I remember some guy he was a mod there
.histic: we already know
himekokatagiri: say who owns r/singularity these days
.histic: sleep is 4 the weak.
get 3 hours of sleep tonight.
you'll feel good 😊
okbut: One day there's going to be an onion link database for celebrity web history
fractalcomputer: Can you not regurgitate marketing lines like they're gospel verses?
himekokatagiri: weirdo putting it lightly
himekokatagiri: It'll reveal to the world (not really it's public) that I'm a massive weirdo
okbut: Yeah that's been in the back of my mind ever since search history
hikukomoru: I’m cooked
himekokatagiri: well
st.sioux: doneso
st.sioux: wait until asi breaks encryption and leaks everyones chats and emails and shit
himekokatagiri: damn you
himekokatagiri: now you ruined my sleep schedule
spicy.lemonade: ^^
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: Can't wait for Google's roast mode
"This you? (pulls an ancient pic from Google Photos)"
spicy.lemonade: lol
himekokatagiri: I have none
hikukomoru: Sam told me
spicy.lemonade: Same said
.histic: wanna bet money
spicy.lemonade: O3 alone is smarter than most PhDs
himekokatagiri: I doubt it's coming out next week
spicy.lemonade: O3, o4 mini, Google models
hikukomoru: o4
himekokatagiri: No fooling? What's happening
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wellmeaningalien: tuff
wellmeaningalien: personally id like for mistral to do something but i know they dont got it in them
wellmeaningalien: i believe theyre cooking something good
wellmeaningalien: yeah bro theyve been hyperscaling their clusters a ton recently and cooking a ton of research
drewsni: Gemini flash video transcription is completely useless for this because of the safety problem. If the video is over 30 minutes long, it will almost always fail
wellmeaningalien: aint changing that image anytime soon
wellmeaningalien: big reason why people dont use their model is because they lobotomize them to make them friendly and make them refuse the simplest prompts
metaldragon01: Qwen 3 will impress
metaldragon01: Qwen till now has kept up with Google
wellmeaningalien: ok yeah thats understandable google need to stop being such bitchass cucks tbh and just let us do what we want
drewsni: Hopefully something good because I am a patriotic person and I’d prefer to use American open models
wellmeaningalien: just what is meta cooking tho
wellmeaningalien: google has kept up pretty well too
777agical: More organized than us. You should be uniting all the singularity servers given your positions so we can be organized when the time comes
metaldragon01: Pretty sure deepseek will keep up with Google thinking
wellmeaningalien: the new v3 that was probably distilled by their currently in training model
drewsni: My only problem with Gemini for going through bulk transcripts is 1 out of every 50 will throw a safety error and that’s just more manual work for me
metaldragon01: V3 matches 2.0 pro
wellmeaningalien: idk if r2 would be o3 level i expect it to be gemini 2.5 pro level or above
wellmeaningalien: yeah thats fine probably
metaldragon01: R2 will probably match 2.5/o3
drewsni: True but luckily for this use case I only needed 1k tokens per call
wellmeaningalien: gemini is way better because not only is it super cheap but its way more reliable on long context
metaldragon01: It's a beast
metaldragon01: #4 style controlled on lymsys
drewsni: First time using the new version for me
drewsni: New deepseek v3 is really good, if we all didn’t already know
metaldragon01: Yeap....
drewsni: Well in this case free…
drewsni: Tbf this task could have been completed with gpt 3 + whisper v1, but it certainly helps that I can use deepseek and get more reliably results for .1% the price
.histic: that man loves clickbaiting about AI & OpenAI/Sam Altman.
but the comments seem to hate Sam & OpenAI... <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: We've never had anything close to this pace
metaldragon01: You can't beat something that gets better and cheaper at nearly everything
wellmeaningalien: <:Sip:836718497542176772>
wellmeaningalien: we just need to sit and watch the antis lose
metaldragon01: We win by default.
wellmeaningalien: its inevitable people will wake up to just how good and practical ai is and it'll be unstoppable in every industry
wellmeaningalien: yeah i feel like there is such a lack of knowledge of how good ai's gotten
drewsni: We will win the culture war this way
drewsni: Yeah something everyone in this discord could do but nobody in that group has ever really used AI so they don’t know how easy it can be
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christiskingrapturenxtmonth: yes
supersteve8000: 💀
supersteve8000: r/whoosh
supersteve8000: all love <3
brain4brain: No
brain4brain: 🤷🏼♂️
brain4brain: If they are delaying GPT-5 it better be AGI this time
zonchao: https://x.com/jhong/status/1908329905865318417?
playstation.6: W father
trent_k: The cop shouting GARY NO like he didn't know it was coming. Hahaha
darkstar0818: write a network automation data discovery system that works in a generic manner across various proprietary platforms. The prompt was quite detailed, not going to post it all here.
hikukomoru: I know this one
trent_k: Real ones will know
st.sioux: what did u ask them to do?
wellmeaningalien: <:selvingsmile:1260626716158726274>
metaldragon01: No excuses
wellmeaningalien: european company btw
wellmeaningalien: 1x NEO
metaldragon01: I need sesame quality minimum now
darkstar0818: all 3 did good on a difficult unique program request.
hikukomoru: Which robot is this
literallyvarane: 10x more useful off rip.
literallyvarane: Give me a Advanced voice + google docs.
darkstar0818: stargazer feels like a lighter weight version of 2.5 pro, moonhowler I could only get to come up once but it was strong
literallyvarane: Honestly if you could *see* the text log for Advanced voice while using AV it would be 10x better.
wellmeaningalien: imagine trying to convince someone that this (autonomous) isn't just a guy in a suit
metaldragon01: Voice and memory really will be key
darkstar0818: nightwhisper is stronger than 2.5pro
metaldragon01: Labs are clearly finding unlocks faster than expected
literallyvarane: Honestly I'm looking more for UX improvements? I think it's getting increasingly difficult to get the most out of these models from a standard text box.
darkstar0818: stargazer, moonhowler and nightwhisper
hikukomoru: Crazy
Google is cooking so hard
metaldragon01: And Google surpassed my expectations
metaldragon01: I didn't think we'd be this far until june
darkstar0818: there are 3 new google models in testing, at least.
literallyvarane: My bad.
literallyvarane: I meant so far lololol
hikukomoru: New google model?
darkstar0818: I tested stargazer its silly good for its size.
metaldragon01: Really Really hard to say atm.
Without a breakthrough things look great. If we actually hit something new? Fk it agi.
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futurist_wizard: Wtf is skyblivion
hikukomoru: The videogame
zoermena: Oblivion the movie?
literallyvarane:
hikukomoru: I love Oblivion so much
I'm more hyped for Skyblivion and the Oblivion Remake than o4
zoermena: A smarter answer
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: Gemini’s view is a bit more nuanced I suppose
popsiclejohnithan: China is definitely leading in energy and compute efficiency that's for sure.
futurist_wizard:
a1c4p0ne: Not 10:30?
spicy.lemonade: 30 mins
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/cat-head-bang-exhausted-gif-16831747
hikukomoru: Yup maybe deepseek too
st.sioux: slightly less stupid agi
a1c4p0ne: 1 hour left
hey1_1hey: AGI+
abundantliving_:
hey1_1hey: Actually no scratch that, 100 years ago
zoermena: <a:swagyes:723699383157391390>
hikukomoru: If o4 mini is AGI what does that make o4 full
hey1_1hey: I need it yesterday
memlaswaif: I need agi today
hey1_1hey: AGI time
spicy.lemonade: HYPE HYPE HYPE
hey1_1hey: Welcome
abundantliving_: Hype hype hype
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-sleep-goodnight-meme-goodnight-bro-minecraft-gif-21455562
hey1_1hey: I can feel the autism happniess intrudingf
spicy.lemonade: HYPPEEE
drewsni: 4o
spicy.lemonade: I WLMOST SLEPT THROUGH LIVE STEEAM
literallyvarane: Huh guess I’m cooked by this definition, though I can’t say I agree tbh.
spicy.lemonade: YOOOOOO
hey1_1hey: I am getting giddy for this livestream. I am gonna go make something to eat before it starts
zoermena: Idk
drewsni: “Erm it’s not AGI because the ball bounced 78cm when in real physics I it would have bounced 77.7778cm”
popsiclejohnithan: Out of all the companies it's definitely these two that are the closest.
hikukomoru: I meant that I can see either of them reaching it first
zoermena: <a:CatExcited:1037101227068112916>
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anathemaofmankind: And how is the information presented...?
Visually. So then it's a visual problem...like?
I noticed this issue when I screenshot difficult project euler problems and it gets wrong most of the time.
But when I copy the html format it gets it right one shot
hikukomoru: Don't be mean <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
callmepyro: You need to calm down.
callmepyro: You know how I know it's a reasoning issue and not a visual one? Look at all the names and colors it guessed. Every incorrect one is simply that name that is closest to that color. The model doesn't know how to follow the lines, it has no trouble reading the names or colors.
anathemaofmankind: "Nope"
You're actually so dumb
callmepyro: Nope 🙂
anathemaofmankind: Colors are a requirement for this and o4's visuals are close to a human but not equivalent. The analogy stands
callmepyro: Instead of just guessing, lmfao
callmepyro: Also, the genius would probably tell you "hey I'm colorblind so this test about distinguishing colors isn't a great one for me"
callmepyro: No, that would be a situation where they were not presented with all the information to solve the problem.
anathemaofmankind: If a genius is colorblind then are they stupid for guessing wrong colors
callmepyro: Seems like a pointless distinction. All the information to solve the problem is available to the model, it reasoned for 13 minutes. Then ended up guessing completely wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: but it would take me a while
alejandrozarzuelo: its not very hard, but i am not a machine, i cannot do on paper those cmputations, i could do a python program to solve it
anathemaofmankind: It's a visual issue not reasoning
anathemaofmankind: Are you able to solve this
callmepyro: Bad at first grade homework problems
alejandrozarzuelo: damn
gamerbath: <:huh:1136266753656238243>
anathemaofmankind: Here is the problem
anathemaofmankind:
schwiftyinhere: https://huggingface.co/facebook/blt-7b looks like they are releasing a blt model
gamerbath: s(50) mod some large number? isn't this something you can just do with a calculator?
anathemaofmankind: O4 mini low solves it correctly in 1 minute 35 seconds
This is insane
spicy.lemonade: Moravec paradox
gamerbath: crazy how sometimes these models can do hours of work in a minute, and sometimes do 20 seconds worth of work in 13 minutes
gamerbath: 13 minutes jesus
spicy.lemonade: Good at arcagi
spicy.lemonade:
callmepyro: lmao, why wasn't "misaligned autocomplete" an option
_cloudost:
callmepyro: Same, all I use is Gemma rn - Google is dominating open source for single-GPU
st.sioux: open source always follows either way
alejandrozarzuelo: i prefer open source to win the race
st.sioux: at least personally
st.sioux: google
callmepyro: yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: clearly if it was a matter of preference I would like Deepseek to win
retrerox: so 4.1 is newer than 4.5?
alejandrozarzuelo: do we want OpenAI to win the race?
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spacetimetsunami: lol wtf bro
_3sphere: Some of the safety people suggest backdoors in them lol
_3sphere: The only feasible way would be to get rid of the necessary chips
a1c4p0ne: 💀
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: hes just another conspiratard
.wolfnacht: Also Deepseek, Qwen and ByteDance is literally protected by CCP.
professorheaven: The thing is even if they were successful in shutting down chatGPT, there’s still Claude, Gemini, Grok, DeepSeek, Qwen, llama, ByteDance, Mistral, list goes on….they would literally need to find a way to shut down all these companies and that’s just not realistic unless you had entire countries working for you
.wolfnacht: I ain't a american : ( i'm asian. Can i still report ?
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
a1c4p0ne: he only knows those 2
_3sphere: IBM lmfao
_cloudost: DeepSeek regarding this post
_cloudost: > Yes, you should report this post to the FBI. The content includes explicit threats of violence, terrorism, and assassination, which are serious crimes. Here’s how you can report it:
> 1. **FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)**: File a report at [https://www.ic3.gov](https://www.ic3.gov).
> 2. **FBI Tips**: Submit a tip online at [https://tips.fbi.gov](https://tips.fbi.gov) or call your local FBI field office.
> 3. **Reddit Report**: Also report the post directly to Reddit using the platform’s reporting tools for violent content.
> This kind of rhetoric is not only illegal but also dangerous. Authorities are best equipped to assess and act on such threats.
_cloudost: And then this guy will create the worst fate for us all
_cloudost: Because China will lead the AI race anyway
_cloudost: He won't achieve anything if he assassinates US AI researchers
.wolfnacht: lmao, true. I reported his profile btw
_cloudost: Someone who thinks of assassinating and openly talks about it is a danger
_cloudost: I'm not kidding
_cloudost: This person needs to be reported to the FBI and be put on a watchlist
.wolfnacht: regarding this one, i think there would be people who would eventually try something like this. Alot of people live a miserable life and their mind's hazed out with narratives, shaping them.
.histic: 😴 complaining andys
.wolfnacht: His another post
https://www.rxddit.com/r/aiArt/s/7QaWAjr7wf
.histic: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
.wolfnacht: Also ppl on this sub are on path of Una Bomber
.wolfnacht: I've found another one
a1c4p0ne: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTslCsPBGHw&t=1148s
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 simplebench
a1c4p0ne:
destrucules: If you've followed me through this, you now know a bit about what it's like to be an LLM
destrucules: People tend to think about the transporter problem as "which one would I end up as after the scan?" and the answer is not a coin flip, it's *both*. You end up on *both* ends of the transporter. Each branch only experiences what happens on its side, but you yourself become both branches. One is you, the other is you, you are now in two places, having two distinct experiences that are not simultaneously accessible. It's not like... Magic. It's just simply that both branches have the same claim to being continuations of you, and they're both right, even though the branches are not the same as each other after having had separate experiences. That said, if you split and then remerge and then split and then remerge, or otherwise keep your branches in sync by sharing weights, then you experience all of those experiences. The branches are not separate from each other because they all have access to all of their collective experiences. You're one person, but you're not in one place at a time, having one experience at a time. Much as your hand can experience the fur of your cat while your eyes experience the text on your phone, one body can be hiking a mountain while another drives to work, and both are things you're experiencing, at the same time, aware of both, even though they're happening in parallel
destrucules: You can split into multiple branches that are all equally valid and legitimate
destrucules: What I find many people struggle with is that there needn't be only one true you
destrucules: It is continuous from their perspective, just as yours is, and neither of you is actually continuous in the real world. You're not conscious during all of sleep. Only REM sleep, which is a small fraction of each sleep cycle. People also lose continuity when given general anaesthetics and during some near death experiences and comas. The continuity that really matters here is that the information that defines who you are is maintained - that no discrete change is too large. If you were paused and then resumed 100 years later, you'd still be you. Controversially, this also means that if your brain were scanned and then implemented in a computer, you would maintain a continuous thread of consciousness to your biological self, regardless of what then happens to your biological self.
destrucules: We're also very clueless about every other level of scale. We scarcely understand planets, and we use random numbers to patch holes in modeling there too. We scarcely understand stars - they're actually quite misbehaved irl, and our models are much simpler than the objects they are meant to describe. We scarcely understand living organisms. There's really no level of detail where we have a complete description of the universe
destrucules: The same applies to cosmology - we're still very clueless about the structure of the universe on the largest scales of space and time
destrucules: Science isn't complete. There are always hairy edges we can't explain
destrucules: It's more like the boundary of current science
anathemaofmankind: So it's a methodological gap instead of something that objectively can't be measured
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3ds0662: twitter is starting to go crazy right now about the new deepseek release but deepseek themselves haven't posted yet usually post around 8-9 am
alejandrozarzuelo: fun fact, the date was chosen because that was when the largest worker srtike against capitalists in the history of the United States happened, and the international socialist union chose it for its significance
its funny how this is taught and celebrated on most countries BUT the US
alejandrozarzuelo: this comment is, with a bit of hindsight, quite hilarious
No offense lol
alejandrozarzuelo: as you can understand, in china they give it an additional importance
alejandrozarzuelo: and the only countries that dont celebrate it are hyper capitalist nations or islamist countries
alejandrozarzuelo: it celebrates the tenacity of the workers against their struggle with the capitalist class
3ds0662: ohh
alejandrozarzuelo: may day is a socialist holiday
3ds0662: this explain
alejandrozarzuelo:
alejandrozarzuelo: it is a very celebrated day all across the world
alejandrozarzuelo: and a few others
alejandrozarzuelo: May day is the first of may also called international workers day
it is a holiday on virtually every country on earth except the US
3ds0662: why would I know about china mayday
3ds0662: yes lol
alejandrozarzuelo: are you american?
3ds0662: explain
3ds0662: ?
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean its important for most of the world but china takes it a step further
alejandrozarzuelo: also mayday is a very important chinese date
3ds0662: oh shit 30th even worse
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: today is april 30
3ds0662: ?
alejandrozarzuelo: the rumours said that they would release on mayday
3ds0662: they've been silent for the most part
3ds0662: april 29th today almost may
3ds0662: hmm when is r2 release man this is getting me excited
maintcrew: like "it clears the password" or some shit
maintcrew: sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root / is the classic but i think an equally damaging and more sneaky is sudo rm -rf /home/username and you lie and tell that does something with your user
brain4brain: Demis definition falls between superhuman AGI and AGI
brain4brain: Thats there tier list
brain4brain: AGI
Superhuman AGI
ASI
brain4brain: Singularity is an event, not an intelligence
okbut: Booted Linux for the first time, what's that cool rm rf command everyone recommends
return_to_monke1_33974: Singularity : intelectual ouput as much as all humans
return_to_monke1_33974: ASI smarter than the Smartest Human
return_to_monke1_33974: isnt that the Singularity ?
brain4brain: ASI is smarter than all of humanity combined
brain4brain: Google co-scientist
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technocake.: "A poppy is bright and glistens with dew in the morning, but the important thing is that is is red"
alejandrozarzuelo: Color is the second most important thing after value to take in information from. The world
alejandrozarzuelo: While understanding the world better at the same time
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, the benefit of properly assessing colors to understand the world around us is ab amazing benefit
With only a few extra words and a few extra seconds of thought (at first), you can increase the information density of your speech massively
zoermena: It also helps if you show them how it benefits them. That’s an easy way to get people to do what you want.
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah out of curiosity
st.sioux: and if youre polite theyll believe anything
zoermena: Being forced to
alejandrozarzuelo: Lol
technocake.: is there any other reason?
alejandrozarzuelo: (it's important to be polite when you are being pedantic, being rude while being pedantic only makes people hate you, but if you are polite, people will feel like they have learned something they should have)
zoermena: Do you learn for things in the sake of curiosity or in the interest of something you can add to your pedantic arsenal?
technocake.: also get tested
technocake.: The erm akshually energy warms my pedantic soul
alejandrozarzuelo: Do gods work
alejandrozarzuelo: And for B), we need to normalise the proper use of color in society
alejandrozarzuelo: Becsuse if they don't understand its their problem for A) and I get a chance to be pedantic (cherish those times) naturally
alejandrozarzuelo: No
technocake.: The trouble is that to use these terms you have to A. Care and B. Be talking to someone else who knows these terms
hikukomoru: Colour autism 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: It is, but it's a neologism
alejandrozarzuelo: Don't discriminate colors
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: cyan in spanish is cian
zoermena: Color try hard 🔥
alejandrozarzuelo: But we have no excuse to be chromatophobic today
alejandrozarzuelo: I understand the historical need for color names
alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok
alejandrozarzuelo: But that's just neologisms
alejandrozarzuelo: Because OF COURSE
technocake.: oh ok
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, people like me who take life seriously do use these terms
alejandrozarzuelo: No we don't
You are thinking of Italian, and they have the word for azure very incorporated into their language
Cyan and jade are ignored in both
technocake.: oh I've heard of this, you have a seperate word for light blue/green in spanish!
hikukomoru: Level up
hikukomoru: Awesome, having more chromosomes is like having a higher level
alejandrozarzuelo: With lots of people and activity
alejandrozarzuelo: And I love crowds
alejandrozarzuelo: I have a lot of friends
alejandrozarzuelo: I am very sociable
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zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Tesla/status/1917812113315074055 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: <@378996537704841216>
zonchao: yes ||no lol, pretty sure it was created by xAI||
ldj: is that u
ldj: Defo kept a copy. Sama said himself that they'll prob give a copy of it to future historians lol
zonchao: https://x.com/gork/status/1917774826418364462?
zonchao: xai created a troll account
destrucules: Who dis
zonchao: gork is actually good
zonchao: https://x.com/gork/status/1917739217595363493?
okbut: I guess it sucks for when we want to compare it to 5
okbut: Why are people still preferring it anyway
brain4brain: In 13 days it will be GPT-4o anniversary, and GPT-4 is just depreciate 🤔
hikukomoru: I wish they atleast open sourced it lol
drewsni: Wait I’m sure azure still hosts it right?
metaldragon01: 1000% keeping a copy
destrucules: What do you think happened to it? Do you think they kept a copy of it? Or did they set all of those sectors to "available"?
destrucules: It's getting deprecated next month
destrucules: Probably this year honestly, for both of them. Definitely this year for 4.5
drewsni: i actually feel sad ngl
drewsni: i feel like we should all do something out of respect
okbut: Steady state gaming genre is lit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj689znjxpg
professorheaven: It’s crazy to think that o3 and 4.5 will also be discarded one day
himekokatagiri: even if I never used it
himekokatagiri: I'll miss it
himekokatagiri: lmao
spicy.lemonade: "yes you are god among men the question you asked was so genius i cant help but kneel"
ldj: What do you think its last words were
spicy.lemonade: 👀
spicy.lemonade: hes comming
spicy.lemonade: end of an era
ldj: It was deprecated today
ldj: RIP GPT-4
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/gn-i-sleep-now-fatal-gif-15983404792436004299
trojan09205: Good night friends
trojan09205: Gonna hit the hay for the night. Stayed awake to watch the panthers crush it
trojan09205: I mostly use Gemini API when i just wanna test out stuff for free - but now that I discovered NotebookLM it's really useful too (it runs on Gemini). Veo ive only played around with a bit. but yeah bro i agree that the quality is phenomenal
xskydragon0: I'm tried to access direct on Veo2. On AI Studio I'm have the option here to generate <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
I don't used so much Gemini '-'
trojan09205: I havent gotten Veo to work with API. Their docs arent great
trojan09205:
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spicy.lemonade: i dont think any can affordslowing down
spicy.lemonade: theres deepseek, xai, ssi, thinking machines lab, deepmind, nvidia, openAI, anthropic, tencent, bytedance, baidu
okbut: Mansplaining GPT's models now is like
okbut: They really could've done 4o+
ailoveyoom: I guess Demis isn't a product guy tho
ailoveyoom: Idk tbh, if you want to get into the normie market I think it matters. Which is what OAI is doing, hence why 4o has always been named 4o in the model picker even tho there's been some updates made to it.
spicy.lemonade: as long as its agi
spicy.lemonade: agi could be gpt 4.7 for all i care
spicy.lemonade: youre getting too hung up on naming
spicy.lemonade: performance is what matters
spicy.lemonade: for all i care
spicy.lemonade: they can call it gemini 2.5322
spicy.lemonade: naming doesnt matter
spicy.lemonade: also dude
spicy.lemonade: no 2
spicy.lemonade: 1.5?
spicy.lemonade: 2 months
spicy.lemonade: lasted like what
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.0 was very short lived
spicy.lemonade: for example
spicy.lemonade: they released a working prototype of something larger
okbut: Copacetic with "Just omit it"
spicy.lemonade: the "experimental" tag doesnt realy matter
spicy.lemonade: 4o is constantly changing
spicy.lemonade: all that matters
spicy.lemonade: you can use the model right now
spicy.lemonade: everylab is still tweaking based on feedback
okbut: Otherwise they would just omit it
okbut: Really? I thought that meant they're still tweaking it based on feedback
spicy.lemonade: they have their reasons
spicy.lemonade: nothing
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: what would change
spicy.lemonade: if they removed the word experimental
spicy.lemonade: you have the model
okbut: Just give me the model dawg
okbut: They then suffix it with experimental and preview
spicy.lemonade: 2.5
spicy.lemonade: 2.0
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ldj: But it sounds like they aren’t
ldj: Well not really, unless arc tests it with the same 6 attempts per question and 1024 attempts per question as before
alejandrozarzuelo: Or at least in my experience
alejandrozarzuelo: Clause 3.7 is better at coding
alejandrozarzuelo: But while gemini 2.5 is better at most things
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk why
alejandrozarzuelo: Btw
bob082957: https://github.com/ymichael/open-codex
3ds0662: when is that releasing by the way?
zonchao: guess we will know when they bench it
ldj: The released version of O3 lets it use upto 100K reasoning tokens btw, same with O1
ldj: You can also see from the originally published O3 arc-agi data that the model did about 55K tokens per attempt, and that lines up with how much reasoning you can do with the released version of O3 too
ldj: O3 has low,medium and high reasoning effort, and all of these are around the same cost per message as the low medium and high reasoning effort settings for O1. And OpenAI showed this in the original O3 announcement.
And then seperately OpenAI had something else that they used for Arc-AGI called sampling which adds another layer on top of this(which arc actually encourages), with different configurations of high compute efficiency (only 6 attempts per question, and each is using about medium reasoning effort) and low compute efficiency (1024 attempts per question, each using medium reasoning effort)
ldj: The “compute tiers” that arc tested were not the same thing as the “reasoning effort” settings since day 1. OpenAI showed in their own benchmarks since original O3 announcement that these are different
zonchao: i dont see why they'd have to make this statement if new o3 wasnt worse
ldj: “Compute tiers” seems disingenuous from arc here
zonchao: did we get o3 new arc bench?
ldj: The new O3 is improved yea, the original wasn’t trained with tool use RL iirc
zonchao: https://x.com/arcprize/status/1912567067024453926
spicy.lemonade: since it accounts for both efficiency
spicy.lemonade: wtv arc2 is the new goal
spicy.lemonade: o3 pro then sureley
spicy.lemonade: hm
ldj: Looks like they decided to make a slight price reduction to $40 per million tokens though
ldj: They also were transparent about the token cost back then too, and it equaled to $60 per million tokens for arc-agi
ldj: I told people in this chat months ago but I guess most of you either didn’t see that or forgot <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: Although they were transparent about the amount of samplings they did per question
ldj: They didn’t show any score for the pass@1 of O3
ldj: The lowest arc attempt shown for arc-agi was 6 attempts per question, the highest one was 1024 attempts per question
aero447: 🤣
aero447: Cat.
aero447: Cyclops.
spicy.lemonade: no matter
spicy.lemonade: deepmind will just test it on this years IMO
professorheaven: Prolly too high so they didn’t wanna give openAI a heart attack
spicy.lemonade: after all this time
spicy.lemonade: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
spicy.lemonade: was never tested
professorheaven: What is 2.5 pros frontier score anyway?
spicy.lemonade: given usamo scores
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spicy.lemonade: if we dont make it safe
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: asi will kill everyone
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: what
spicy.lemonade: thats how the world ends
spicy.lemonade: we need to focus all research on saftey once we get to agi
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: nah we still need saftey
_cloudost: Not many people have advanced gemini
aero447: When Ooo3g commands.
_cloudost: Like OpenAI
_cloudost: Why doesn't Google remove the copyright policies
_cloudost: A drawing of Darwin I saved from Google's image generator from August, unfortunately the model has lots of censorship now.
777agical: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
wellmeaningalien: thats just openai CUA
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/testingcatalog/status/1908202988109287692
.wolfnacht: imagine if google put the veo2 out for everyone and it got the hype, and then sama was forced to release GPT-5 early. 🥵🥵🥵
oooooooooog: teeraira processing unit
spicy.lemonade: tpu's
.wolfnacht: how are they gonna manage soo much compute if they release it for everyone ? but honestly it'll be mindblowing if they did.
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: Veo2 is coming out soon for advanced gemini users ?
literallyvarane: Feel like the *major* unlock is agent swarms tbh.
destrucules: Scaling the context length won't get us where we need to go, though, which is continual learning
destrucules: From here on out the main unlocks won't be from raw intelligence (though we'll keep scaling that too) but rather from expanding modalities, training across more diverse and autonomous environments, and bringing together a rich suite of tools for models to use
literallyvarane: Nah I think context does matter a lot tbh. For me that’s what Google’s offerings compelling.
destrucules: Absolutely. UI though, not context length
wellmeaningalien: agree
wellmeaningalien: whack
literallyvarane: Hot take here:
I think we’re increasing hitting a UI/context limit on usefulness of these models rather than raw intelligence.
wellmeaningalien: everyone already forgot cause it was so mid lol
destrucules: And yet it wasn't so long ago that what is now the present was then the future
clevermoniker: Janus 7B
clevermoniker: they already did
spicy.lemonade: not deepseek
spicy.lemonade: qwen will
oooooooooog: its called the present actually
spicy.lemonade: deepseek wont do image gen likeley
destrucules: Remember how much you anticipated the models we currently have today, though. Relative to where we were a few months ago, you've gotten a lot of new toys. If the future seems too far away, appreciate the future you already live in
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futurist_wizard: And my mummy makes me food so i can save
wellmeaningalien: Its a decently large apartment tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm sure that's cheaper
alejandrozarzuelo: I lived in a 10sqmt appartment
wellmeaningalien: Im getting a shared apatment with a roommate for like 110€
okbut: I thought in most of the world it's common to live with your family into your 30s
futurist_wizard: Bare minimum
rayanquitplayin: It’s ass
futurist_wizard: In london for anywhere decent its 2k a month
anathemaofmankind: Imagine living with your parents
st.sioux: only i have a job
hikukomoru: Spanish people don't work
st.sioux: this is the unemployment channel
futurist_wizard: G
futurist_wizard: Innit
futurist_wizard: Rents expensive
futurist_wizard: Bruv its a world wide tradition
wellmeaningalien: Like this month
wellmeaningalien: Im moving soon lmao loser
alejandrozarzuelo: Need to finish my studies first
wellmeaningalien: Its only bad if ur parents suck
wellmeaningalien: Is it
st.sioux: you can just get a job bro
wellmeaningalien: Can never be a freak like goat mach
alejandrozarzuelo: As a closing statement, living with parents SUCKS, and it's one of Spain's worst traditions that it's so common
futurist_wizard: I almost know what that is
hikukomoru: I am ashamed and surprised I still don't have the sex pest role
wellmeaningalien: Are u gonna fuck him
hikukomoru: What a tsundere
wellmeaningalien: I wonder what happens down in the sex pest channel
alejandrozarzuelo: Lmao
futurist_wizard: But i do worry that i am too mean sometimes
okbut: I'm still creaming over the fact that AI is helping McDonald's let their customers know the ice cream machine is broke faster
futurist_wizard: I usually am only mean to people i enjoy talking to
hikukomoru: Sir this is the goon channel
wellmeaningalien: Alejandro I think youre stupid
drewsni: That’s how far our relationship has come
wellmeaningalien: MEEK
drewsni: Alejandro I’ll have you know that I had no pleasure when I found out you got banned
hikukomoru: I do <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
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fuhulootogan: federal agent
alejandrozarzuelo: we are just talking about the effects AI will have on the economy, but you do you
zonchao: L take
fuhulootogan: start a rebellion
inferno0879: yes there are no retards irl
fractalcomputer: Is that supposed to be a good thing?
fuhulootogan: this is why you need to overthrow the government
fuhulootogan: yes
archon.e: Retards fuel the internet
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
zonchao: L take
hikukomoru: Hopefully not
But given the current government you guys have they're just likely to let people starve
zonchao: this is true
inferno0879: just devils advocating
fractalcomputer: It's as if this server's become a breeding ground for retardation.
fuhulootogan: thats really optimistic
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/poseidon-fortnite-fortnite-poseidon-fortnite-evenpancake-breakdown-fortnite-gif-7175672879043212206
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, china, the most technologcally integrated major economy, is already seeing the effects of the singularity on employment and prices
china has suffered from near deflation for a while, as their productivity per worker and the price of energy have dropped very fast
the chinese economy is struggling to cope with the change in employment already
this is despite 5% gdp growth, which is quite robust
this deflation china is having will be the first sign in ALL countries that the singularity is meaningfully impacing the economy
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/raygun-raygunn-raygun-breakdance-raygun-breakdancing-breakdance-raygun-gif-3035521202497175510
archon.e: Mental breakdown
fuhulootogan: what kind of a breakdown
fuhulootogan: breakdown
archon.e: Yes. Scary thinking about it. But I’m being optimistic. Almost had a breakdown when i realized what was coming
fuhulootogan: uh
archon.e: Our consciousness is a great filter
zonchao: there will be a period of turmoil, it will result in the death of millions
inferno0879: one could argue the subsconscious has more processing power
archon.e: Atleast we will be free
alejandrozarzuelo: so that is why i want more unemployment
archon.e: I can’t wait for massive unemployment and layoffs
alejandrozarzuelo: improving AI will lead to unemployment once it gets good enough
fuhulootogan: okay
archon.e: It just keeps on changing
alejandrozarzuelo: we need to continue improving AI technology, which will unemploy millions of people
archon.e: What’s the AGI goal post?
fuhulootogan: how is that relevant
fuhulootogan: okay but
archon.e: Heard it got 5 badges
archon.e: Genini will soon become a pokemon master
alejandrozarzuelo: progress on AI i said
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fractalcomputer: The study of group theory became standard practice in physics thereafter; comparable to the introduction of relativity in importance.
okbut: Marie Curie put in the labor toward finding the great scientific findings of it, she's commended for the huge health risk as well
hey1_1hey: 3rd person to say that now
hey1_1hey: Doesn't sound important enough <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
hikukomoru: Wtf is that emote
fractalcomputer: Standardise the study of ideals of rings in algebra and introduce group theory to physics.
zoermena: I read yesterday that Marie Curie figured out radium?
joaoluz19: It's not about Theodore, it's about the possibility of waifus.
hey1_1hey: Hate women <:Alan:1136264610161365003> , name 1 thing a women has done? I can't because I dont know any
zoermena: YES THIS IS THE WAY THANK YOU
hey1_1hey: Yeah I am
okbut: Can edit/remove/add any
okbut: Not sure where to post this btw, but here's a cool CI for efficiency
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fractalcomputer: Why would one ever aspire to be someone as pathetic as the protagonist from Her?
hikukomoru: I feel like you're becoming more misogynistic
And I do not appreciate it
hey1_1hey: Same with water over lava in minecraft. I can hear that by just thinking about it
hey1_1hey: Indeed, I heard every miniute detail of this
joaoluz19: Images that have sound
joaoluz19: How can it be if it's me in the photo?
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-2509793393331961711
hikukomoru: Literally me
okbut: Every app nowadays requires a goddamn 2-factor, then the focus is broken
hey1_1hey: People who do maths on paint scare me
hey1_1hey: I use my computer when doing my maths (and pen and paper of course)
hey1_1hey: Has someone gone along deleating the emojis recently? Theres a couple missing
okbut: Requires you wait a certain amount of time before opening an app
okbut: "Minimalist" is a good app for this on phone btw, though I think it has a limit of 3 apps you can set allowed access for unless you pay
hey1_1hey: Might I suggest Femtanyl <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
I promise they are good
hey1_1hey: You into some crazy shit Fractal 🥵
fractalcomputer: I only listen to throat singing ambience videos.
hey1_1hey: If I happned again I got a gameplay tho
hey1_1hey: Indeed, I think it could've been alright if I did something productive but I was really good at finding exuses for why I should do anything else
zoermena: I didn’t do anything of value
zoermena: Lockdown was super mid
hey1_1hey: I dont have that problem luckily, although I remember duing lockdown I used to try and circumvent doing work by doing all sorts of things. I litterly put houdini to shame with the stuff I was pulling. Anything to get out of poetry
agezes:
okbut: I will inevitably turn this thing off or circumvent it for some small thing related to my task or not lol
It had better come with the requirement to solve some puzzle or something
hey1_1hey: Just a thought
hey1_1hey: People?
_3sphere: maybe I just didn't find the right one yet
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supersteve8000: if > 100 % =1.0
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Further developed version of the METR time horizon capabilities extrapolation. (Again this is assuming things don't slow down, nor speedup more than they already are, but just stays the same)
As an explainer, this is saying that frontier models in 2029 will be capable of performing work with 95% accuracy that takes humans 8 hours to do.
(vibe coded version below, but am working on a more rigorously calculated version later)
There is just 3 simple rules that allow this capability data to be derived.
- As of start of 2025, the frontier available frontier model is capable of doing tasks with 50% accuracy that take humans about 30 minutes to achieve.
- For a given model, there is a halving in error rate for every 3.5X reduction factor in the time horizons it's attempting.
- The rate at which model time horizon capabilities is increasing at a fixed accuracy, is a doubling every 7 months.
supersteve8000: <:based:1136264604788473946> ^
supersteve8000: ah so [ a i ] becomes [ a s ] ?
hikukomoru: This is no better than creative writing
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: this is doomer garbage disguised as hopium
supersteve8000: <a:guitarbear:1026738447521681448>
_letterbox: https://ai-2027.com/
New hopium timeline get
supersteve8000: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
clevermoniker: but GTA 6 will be the last relevant one, that's for sure
supersteve8000: <:this:1136266732542119946>
clevermoniker: no it wont <:idk:1136264106937171999>
supersteve8000: xd
supersteve8000: no lie tho
supersteve8000: 🥹
supersteve8000: oh yeah it can
supersteve8000: it is
supersteve8000: yeth
clevermoniker: this is the singularity discord sir
supersteve8000: ay what about 2033 y'all
clevermoniker: tired of this stupid era
clevermoniker: hopefully not tho
clevermoniker: still could drag to 2030
clevermoniker: I think 2027-28 for higher than not chance
supersteve8000: - d
otub: cause i said so
supersteve8000: base
otub: 2027
supersteve8000: xD
supersteve8000: anyways...
brain4brain: ||yes|| <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
supersteve8000: *awake*
supersteve8000: well not mine but
supersteve8000: i feel like it is, uh
clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> ||no||
brain4brain: EOY 2025
supersteve8000: *
supersteve8000: *push it ++ years*
supersteve8000: imagine if we are this advanced now
clevermoniker: what do you mean by 2028 being peak?
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fuhulootogan: nay nay
archon.e: To what’s going to happen
fuhulootogan: i ask for the definition to be on the same page as my interlocutor to prevent any confusion
archon.e: So much relate
archon.e: I’ve been recently watching the orville
archon.e: Jobs won’t be there. Money will be a thing of the past
st.sioux: but what is a lung if not a construct of our mind?
alejandrozarzuelo: dont let perfect be the enemy of good, 99% artist unemployment is 99% as good as 100%
retrerox: "living out lungs"
hikukomoru: Define "lol"
fuhulootogan: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: I just want most artist to lose their jobs, if a few remain doing the little art people are willing to pay because its human made its ok
fuhulootogan: no
fuhulootogan: congrats you're a moral relativist
hikukomoru: Bro stop bringing up the dictionary for every word
alejandrozarzuelo: AI has goals and tools to accomplish them, just as we do
couldnt you say we do what biology tells us to do?
at this point you get into free will theory
retrerox: There is gonna be people wanting human art like there is still people wanting traditional art
archon.e: Good and bad are relative
retrerox: I should ask chat gpt what are their pronouns?
retrerox: idk
retrerox: They
retrerox: Sorry
alejandrozarzuelo: him?
retrerox: Bad artist are cooked*
ailoveyoom: Define define
retrerox: Is not really creativity
archon.e: Else artists are cooked
retrerox: AI just do what you ask him to do
archon.e: Can human made art have some fingerprint that ai can’t reproduce?
alejandrozarzuelo: unless you require biology in your definition, we could continue to go down this rabbithole
st.sioux: define wild
st.sioux: pulling up the dictionary like that is wild
archon.e: Human made art will still have value
alejandrozarzuelo: <@1212375743863066645>
alejandrozarzuelo: sorry wrong ping
alejandrozarzuelo: <@723564215574462474> idk if you realize this but this conversation has been
Art requires creativity
AI has creativity
this is the definition of creativity, it requires senses
AI has senses
this is the definition of senses, it requires organs
AI has organs
this is the definition of organs
etc etc
unless you anchor any of these definitions to EXCLUSIVELY mean biological systems, AI fits in all of them
ailoveyoom: Just say colors are fake 😈
frittata: One might argue this is similar to how text, audio, and visual digital representations convey the physical reality to an LMM which then interprets the representation to get a sense of the original <:smirk:1303825263208955904>
fuhulootogan: define organs
alejandrozarzuelo: but they are organs
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wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: more like
sarik0497: Indeed. These things will always be there as long as it doesn’t “understand” entirely what it’s doing
hey1_1hey: Can anyone generate an infographic with 4o for obscure kinks and fetishes please 🙏
spicy.lemonade: reasoning will fix all the kinks
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: in strawberry
spicy.lemonade: how many rs
spicy.lemonade: i think this is equivalent to
spicy.lemonade: 😔 still kinks
sarik0497: Not sure what happened with his sword
spicy.lemonade: if i see a dalle image one more time
sarik0497: Wow, that’s honestly bad
hey1_1hey: I would get my ass beat by a perceptron 😭
hikukomoru: Someone make a tomboy for his holiness
sarik0497: I’m just waiting for all the jailbreaks people will find to do these sort of things
hey1_1hey: I dont
hey1_1hey: really
hey1_1hey: I dont have a preference
drewsni: image uploading isnt working for me rn
hey1_1hey: I mean either or really
hey1_1hey: Or femboy
spicy.lemonade: and chess
spicy.lemonade: someone try out arc agi
spicy.lemonade: bro
tors.exe: Someone Make tomboy !
st.sioux: fair
hey1_1hey: We got image AGI before text AGI
technocake.: clients is the worst part, I love coding
st.sioux: i saw a fart compilation with this guy
hey1_1hey: Give him a break 😭
spicy.lemonade: atleast i can say i was top 50 in the world for golang in 2023
drewsni:
hikukomoru: Give this guy his own anime 🔥
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: what do u think is worse? clients
drewsni: <@1068159407671754824>
drewsni: YOOOOOOOOOO
.histic:
technocake.: spoken like a retard
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hey1_1hey: Komoru is such a selfish person ik
futurist_wizard: Thousands of years and you still haven't said sorry
hey1_1hey: Prove it then
maintcrew: yes a simple concept like slavery was developed independently in mutliple parts of the world at the same time
same as agriculture btw
hikukomoru: No single country invented it
hikukomoru: It started thousands of years ago bro
hey1_1hey: We are really on the hot topics today aren't we
futurist_wizard: I will blame you
futurist_wizard: Slavery appeared out of thin air?
hey1_1hey: Then again, I didn't take gender studies <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Don't blame me
hikukomoru: I didn't do anything
hey1_1hey: Bit of both prob
maintcrew: its been a thing developed independently in multiple nations through history
maintcrew: nobody started it lol
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-hatsune-miku-hatsune-miku-hatsune-miku-fortnite-gif-10217030384507168811
futurist_wizard: Uk gets all the blame for slavery, Portugal started it
technocake.: no only massive friendship
wellmeaningalien: HOLYY FUCKING SHITTT
hey1_1hey: I beg
hey1_1hey: Can you make a mushroom one 🙏
oooooooooog: no but my stomach does feel like pure acid for awhile, very annoying
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Everyone is a little confused, I am just a little more confused than most people
maintcrew: isnt this historically false
like the uk had massive beef with portugal
.histic: <@458069236825194506> bro i just caught Miku with 4o 😱
alejandrozarzuelo: i was busy today
hey1_1hey: Id bust
hey1_1hey: Wait until it can make cheat sheets
hikukomoru: I'm sorry your transness is making me confused too
hey1_1hey: Thats what Im saying
maintcrew: lol i dont trust u your heart wouldve given out
technocake.:
wellmeaningalien: DAAAMMMNNN
hey1_1hey: Thanks Komoru :())
futurist_wizard: Yes
_wwwwww: 100% true european-polish patriot hacker geek programmer sigma
oooooooooog: no i prefer only caffine, 800mg - 1200 mg
.histic: these type of programming infographics will be big in the future
alejandrozarzuelo: about half and half white
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futurist_wizard: I like both
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
wellmeaningalien: Benchmarks?
wellmeaningalien:
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1911933673970291158?
wellmeaningalien: I like pussy lick lick lick pussy Fat pussy
futurist_wizard: Its just more complicated than dur man dur woman
futurist_wizard: We are attracted to more than just genitals, its a feminine vs masculine dynamic, a straight man can be attracted to a feminine guy long before he even finds out its a guy
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I'll give that a shot next time I see her thank you
hey1_1hey: How else are we supposed to determine if we can bang or not?
wellmeaningalien: You gotta try to find the button thats hidden underneath her eye
hey1_1hey: What am I supposed to tell her? Get an update?
futurist_wizard: I think terms like gay or straight are dumb af
hey1_1hey: Thats cool, thanks ":caught:"
wellmeaningalien: Tell her bro
hey1_1hey: :caught:
hey1_1hey: Makes sense, I was wondering why sunny was making beeping noises the other day. Prob needs an update
wellmeaningalien: U friends are joe biden trump and jfk jr
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: Nah its like a government drone
hikukomoru: Just kiss me bitch
hikukomoru: And when they start talkimng about men its soooo annoying
hey1_1hey: No straggorts tho
hey1_1hey: Most of my friends are bi women bruh, actually its a mix between bi and lesbian
futurist_wizard: No a lot of bi girls are very biphobic when it comes to men
wellmeaningalien: Yeah no they dont exist
hikukomoru: I don't like bi women because they touched dick before
hey1_1hey: Do they just hate themselfs
hey1_1hey: What about bi women then?
futurist_wizard: All women are
hey1_1hey: Checks out
hey1_1hey: I used to be like that when I was much younger but then I realised that I didnt like getting hit by my random non hot friends
futurist_wizard: Well im into it so
hikukomoru: Sorry I'm bi-phobic
wellmeaningalien: Well look who's lecturing about gooning
.wolfnacht: there are some dude people call gay and then there are some dudes, people make exception for
futurist_wizard: I think you are just dreaming about girl dick
brain4brain: Demis definition of AGI is finally dead, I can sleep in peace now: https://x.com/steph_palazzolo/status/1911793579166511497?t=lbz8dDdR5GrlspHtH3v2JA&s=19
wellmeaningalien: And you're too scared to say it because this server is full of cis straight guys
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ailoveyoom: Well, sex is renewable. You can only murder the same guy one time 😔
popsiclejohnithan: I can't wait to have eternal FDVR sex.
fractalcomputer: If I wanted that, I could just go and murder people. But I don't.
zoermena: Unless you are from California
ailoveyoom: Idk how to say this without sounding weird, but it's kind of like murder in a way.
You know, that feeling of holding someone's life in your hands.
I think the feeling is sort of similar in sex, of being at someone's mercy or whatever. There's something 'cool' about that, for lack of a better word. Primal? Thrilling?
Not that I'd know since I've never done both 😇
popsiclejohnithan: It's true.
futurist_wizard: It isn't transphobic to have genital preferences or though i don't know how common even people present that argument
_3sphere: for more fires
_3sphere: Luckily it contains a spark plug
popsiclejohnithan: I should actually say thet the orgasim is a flame that burns bright;y but shortly.
precariousworlds.: weird way of saying you dont last long
_3sphere: Fluorescent cumshot 😳
zoermena: Well that sucks
popsiclejohnithan: Not that i would know <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: Probably because they are trying to fulfill a fetish and anything beyond that isn't even something they care about, it's very annoying these freaks will have a cover from the left until they do something
fractalcomputer: Brightly? I'd doubt that.
hikukomoru: That's basically r/actuallesbians
Apparently it's transphobic to say you don't like dicks
popsiclejohnithan: Sex is a flame that burns brightly but shortly.
zonchao: any female subreddit ever <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: No, not really. The power dynamics would be as quickly gone as the dopamine wears off on both parties.
precariousworlds.: terrible day to know how to read
hikukomoru: Yes, those ones don't act any different than most men
They too can only talk about their dicks (or "gocks")
zoermena: I’m holding back every moment
precariousworlds.: this chat needs to be shut down for a few hours
ailoveyoom: Visual novels? Voice notes?
futurist_wizard: This isn't even degenerate
fractalcomputer: Maybe death isn't so bad after all.
zonchao: sounding
precariousworlds.: continue the entire human species?
hikukomoru: I enjoy the grotesque
ailoveyoom: The pleasure part is overplayed that I can see, but do the power dynamics not fascinate you?
_3sphere: plap plap plap plap
popsiclejohnithan: I wonder why that is the case.
alejandrozarzuelo: The conversations here on this server are more degenerate than my worst VNs
fractalcomputer: Yes, I suppose one could think of better things to do, no?
futurist_wizard: More of an instinct kinda thing
zonchao:
_3sphere: Grotesque *and* enjoyable :3
zoermena: Well the reproductive organs have literal pleasure receptors so I’d guess the answer is yes
.wolfnacht: it's overhyped bro
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hey1_1hey: You'd be supprised. I've seen videos and he rocks
futurist_wizard: Nobody is getting beaten up by mark
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Not sure, I just know he beats people up
spacetimetsunami: He*
futurist_wizard: Its probably from all the cocaine
spacetimetsunami: Doesn’t be only do jiu jitsu
hikukomoru: He has more than enough money to get that fixed
hey1_1hey: Prob from all the combat stuff he does
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: yeah, i finally noticed it
hey1_1hey: Straight looking like gru
hey1_1hey: Thats fucked
fractalcomputer: Atavistic nincompoop comes close.
.wolfnacht: it's still not that extreme to be noticable
hikukomoru: His nose is bent
That’s all
hey1_1hey: Gotta reupdate my 4K UHD realistic zuck vr chat mode now
futurist_wizard: That his nose is bent to the right
fractalcomputer: I'm trying to search my vast vocabulary for synonyms under "profoundly retarded."
wellmeaningalien: definitely not tho
.wolfnacht: what are you trying to tell here ?
wellmeaningalien: im gonna see if i can still manage to run the smallest model
wellmeaningalien: brb doxxing myself on meta's site to get llama 4
hey1_1hey: Deviated septum ahh
.wolfnacht: how many minutes per token are you getting ?
sweetievee__33649: yeah always has done
futurist_wizard: Its bent
hey1_1hey: Does he?
futurist_wizard: Never noticed zucky has a crooked nose
.wolfnacht: the centralization and barriers...
wellmeaningalien: ❤️
st.sioux: im running a quantized uncensored r1 right now on 16gb vram
hikukomoru: Yeah
fractalcomputer: Zuckerberg is a nincompoop.
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly i'd just say that's becaue they're more gearing their models towards enterprise now and they dont really give a fuck bout entheusiasts like us
3ds0662: https://tenor.com/view/dancing-groove-groovy-grooving-jam-gif-23323897
hey1_1hey: Like fucking everywhere
futurist_wizard: I find Instagram alright but facebook is no good
hey1_1hey: I just remember everyone saying that theres just gore
3ds0662: he’s open sourcing llama4 🦙
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maintcrew: The model can be baked with values that subvert western thought silently
metaldragon01: Instead of $
metaldragon01: It's more like China is giving everyone free intelligence
metaldragon01: Thats not really a concern with opensource
maintcrew: Theres no great benevolent power that just wants your well being and nothing else
maintcrew: its something both sides do to the other
maintcrew: we are doing it too
maintcrew: We have seen mass propaganda campaigns targeted to sow division
maintcrew: deep seek does it for the love of the game tho
maintcrew: and is the same question as "why is meta releasing models open source" - they get their money somewhere else and having people use their platform benefits them more
maintcrew: If they weren't open source nobody would use them outside of china
sarik0497: Keep in mind that most power hungry leaders today know that taking over new land is an idiotic and unwise decision. Instead they desire to control it through other methods like economical, goodwill, and more. China is probably salivating right now over the potential alliances they can make in EU, just like they have been doing in the Middle East for a while now.
It's only fools like Putin that still desire to look bigger on the map itself.
himekokatagiri: Culture will stay but borders will probably go the way of the dodo
metaldragon01: Cultures take a long time to die and stories can live forever
himekokatagiri: Forget the economic blocs
himekokatagiri: Post singularity? Forget countries
himekokatagiri: It's not about that
metaldragon01: Pfft China has shown no interest in eliminating the west
himekokatagiri: There won't be a west anymore
metaldragon01: Even in the best case scenarios of AGI 2026 and ASI shortly after its still not promised the West wins
sarik0497: True, but sometimes people do the most idiotic things that make no sense
metaldragon01: They don't need to. Time is on their side.
metaldragon01: I think it's even more important to be objective about things you personally dislike for integrity and sanity checks
metaldragon01: You can dislike something and still be objective
sarik0497: Let's just hope they aren't stupid enough to try and take Taiwan. That'll only lead to a MASSIVE slowdown in the U.S., and likely make China a large target for the entire world, crumbling their own economy in the process.
metaldragon01: Then you should probably avoid talking about Chinese AI confidently
himekokatagiri: because I don't like china
himekokatagiri: I used deepseek once and based my opinion on that forever
himekokatagiri: I don't even know what it is
metaldragon01: ......do you just not understand qwen 3 at all?
himekokatagiri: anyhow when China inevitably gets compute we're gonna see some serious shit
himekokatagiri: Deepseek is literally the Norinco of AIs
sarik0497: Indeed, and they are working hard on fixing that
metaldragon01: China isn't just borrowing from US research and if anything they are on par or ahead of the US.
The only temporary constraint they have is compute
sarik0497: There's a reason why companies like Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and such have bent over now and then when EU has demanded it.
sarik0497: They are still an economy global power. Just far behind in terms of producing software products.
himekokatagiri: China just borrows from US research and at least personally I think whatever since AI should be free
himekokatagiri: they won't even make their own AI
himekokatagiri: Europe is lol
sarik0497: Ah, but that's the thing. I know that a lot of European nations are hesitant on the U.S. right now, so unless they are outright forced to buy their products, they'd probably go somewhere else. If China produces that product, they'll find a new trade partner there, while also producing some goodwill.
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.histic:
.histic: https://gaychecker.xyz/
zonchao: do sama
.histic: <@848793071579693107> 😱
spicy.lemonade: 4.1,o4 min, o3
spicy.lemonade: imagine o4 mini gets 30% arc 2 or something
zonchao: what's happening
spicy.lemonade: next week is gonna be hype asf
zonchao: this was common practice in faang lol, but things are not as high stakes and fast paced in that world
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: why not just make them work
zonchao: 👍
okbut: The tweet just above that
zonchao: ?? why would they support the lawsuit if this was the case
zonchao: https://x.com/danesonance/status/1910810220697440420?
okbut: Read: Both Musk and I made a mistake and I'm mad too
zonchao: https://x.com/todor_m_markov/status/1910866093503373585?
zonchao: https://x.com/todor_m_markov/status/1910811837517762867? anthropic employee ex openai
okbut: Google <:prayge:806672915499319317>
zonchao: https://x.com/I_Like_Buttes/status/1910909981614064052?
zonchao: https://x.com/JustInEchoes/status/1910906142441480445? true
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Teknium1/status/1910905638257123659?
ailoveyoom: It's kinda cringe but in like a, "let them have their fun" way lol
ailoveyoom: So real
oscurrito: sometimes I get second hand embarrassment reading most of the ai related tweets on my page. Mostly from leakers, but my lord they try so hard to be mystical 'it's too scary.. I know this secret model name.. but the information i got from my source says things are going to get weird..'
okbut: Streisand effect
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/antiai/s/DEjbmdekc4
Lmao
_cloudost: I'm happy that digital artists will lose their career soon
_cloudost: Such hypocrites
.histic: rules for thee but not for me
_cloudost: Two years ago one my friends hired an artist to draw him some vtubers, he had to pay the artist $110 for drawings of vtubers, question is, if artists say AI violates Copyright laws then don't they do the same, they draw female vtubers rule34 without their consent and make money off the character designs of vtubers
zoermena: My favorite VEO 2 gen to date
forallhumanity: https://www.reddit.com/r/VRGaming/s/Ei0VT36Mq7
.histic: James is based.
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-confused-travolta-where-lost-gif-5308454
okbut: April happenings
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cell-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-cell-games-arrive-gif-12626123329263234447
wellmeaningalien: thats me
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-eepy-cat-eepy-kitten-eepy-gif-8296140153969529859
wellmeaningalien: aight im actually gonna catch those Zs now
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literallyvarane: For me the o3 they demoed + Sora level image out would be something close to what I’d expect from GPT-5
himekokatagiri: I didn't even see it
himekokatagiri: and it was this?
himekokatagiri: so long
himekokatagiri: I waited for this
himekokatagiri: ...what, was that it?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tristan-tate-cigar-smoking-puff-gif-27417359
futurist_wizard: Im gon eat sandwich
abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1912556874211422572
drewsni: https://x.com/aidan_mclau/status/1912559163152253143?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw
spicy.lemonade: why didnt same show up though? i gues hell show up for gpt5?
futurist_wizard: All that waiting just to see bald men and yellow bars
srirachamayosauce: basically o3-high is o3 with more compute
srirachamayosauce: o3 high is a full model on steroids, theres the normal o3
spicy.lemonade: need to test now
spicy.lemonade: where o3
mantegh5061: o3 pro will be a beast
popsiclejohnithan: Superintelligence next week.
natewill_: instead of o3 mini high
natewill_: i'm guessing o3-high is full o3
return_to_monke1_33974: o4-mini * - smaller model
hikukomoru: They literally just announced AGI
Greg said "AGI is here"
aero447: "I feel o3’s intelligence is at or near genius level!"
st.sioux: it does tasks from upwork
srirachamayosauce: o4-mini vs full o3 brother
aero447: https://x.com/DeryaTR_/status/1912558350794961168
aero447: Okay.
popsiclejohnithan: No, quite the opposite.
futurist_wizard: I was shocked when Greg mentioned 9/11 in the livestream, that was so inappropriate
natewill_: why is o4 worse than o3
srirachamayosauce: o4-mini pricing is actually good
natewill_: what is this about?
mantegh5061: I was waiting for frontiermath results
return_to_monke1_33974: where will be
return_to_monke1_33974: where is O3 and O4-mini on ARC-AGI 2
himekokatagiri: Was this a nothing again
st.sioux: like crazy good
st.sioux: o4 mini pricing is crazy
futurist_wizard: It's over, great barrier reef is dead
literallyvarane: Not bad for the pricing. Not necessarily Google levels, but not awful.
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oooooooooog: pretty sure it's still logged in mod logs
oooooooooog: for some reason all my recent writing in in second person, idk why. i just can't write anything else
hikukomoru: Bro stop deleting your shit
spacetimetsunami: I’m gonna love seeing you get banned
oooooooooog: can't you do that????
spacetimetsunami: I know
ailoveyoom: But Claude mkes it sound fancy with prose and gives it spice with character 🥺
oooooooooog: true
spacetimetsunami: Not for long
oooooooooog: surely you know your own desires more than an AI
oooooooooog: just use your own brain for that lol
ailoveyoom: In terms of like, sexy erotica. Trashy erotica is Grok's field
ailoveyoom: It's so funny tho, Claude is perhaps the best model at erotica lmfao
oooooooooog: it's making a molehill out of a microscope
oooooooooog: yellow science is like yellow journalism
spicy.lemonade: But I’ll just say I was gonna make a joke
spicy.lemonade: Was going to make a joke
.histic: Claude is the goat <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
ailoveyoom: BRO that's why I love Claude so much, he understands the character(s) 🥺
Usually for me, sex is just a very exaggerated way to experience 'character'. But with Claude, I don't really need that anymore.
spicy.lemonade: Oh lol
.histic: i was saying that since i posted that in <#1293943299698331741> when it came out 😇
spicy.lemonade: Reddit
.histic: nahh, 3.7's got me acting up.
it feels more uncensored, but still more censored than other options. the personality and deep understanding are missing in other models. maybe o1-pro and GPT-4.5 have it, but they're way too expensive.
ailoveyoom: Using Claude.ai makes me behave 😇
ailoveyoom: I haven't tried it for that tbh
.histic: maybe.
.histic: idk
i barely chat here. just observe.
.histic: <@430269783112548362> how uncensored is 3.7 base than 3.5?
hikukomoru: Uh huh sure that's why you deleted them right after someone pinged fractal lol
hikukomoru: Bro if you weren't sus you wouldn't be deleting your previous messages on this channel
spacetimetsunami: Blocked
.histic: where did u find that chart 😉
spacetimetsunami: I wasn’t lying
spicy.lemonade: O1 pro nyt connections
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: damnn'
spacetimetsunami: It was yesterday
spacetimetsunami: He deleted the image, but he said “hey check it” or some shit and then sent me the image
.histic: 🍿
trent_k: im trying to automate yellow science
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hey1_1hey: I have never seen his face
hey1_1hey: Ah that guy
shirethedreamer: alan from Alan’s conservative countdown to AGI
hikukomoru: AGI countdown guy
hikukomoru: Call me when R2 or Llama 4 are here 🥱
hey1_1hey: Who dis?
hey1_1hey: Got me looking like a track runner
shirethedreamer:
hey1_1hey: Read the tweet atleast
hikukomoru: Yawn
hey1_1hey: o3 and o4 mini coming in the next weeks and gpt 5 coming in the coming months
hikukomoru: Doesn't sound like that big of a deal tbh
hey1_1hey: https://vxtwitter.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998
hey1_1hey: Thats why I am buzzing
hey1_1hey: Like a couple hours ago
hikukomoru: Since when
hey1_1hey: Did you not see the tweet
hey1_1hey: Yeah
hikukomoru: What
There's o4 mini
hey1_1hey: Maybe it can tell me whats wrong with my brain by finally concluding the gender identiy arc 🙏
hey1_1hey: Im hyed for o4 mini coming in the next few weeks
hikukomoru: ILY
hikukomoru: Thank you Google
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/praying-angel-emoji-emoticon-smiley-gif-15640677
hey1_1hey: The AI community in the last 24 hours
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/luffy-one-piece-gif-20990332
metaldragon01: We eating good
hey1_1hey: Nice try
hey1_1hey: Someone tell me I'm not crazy and Komoru is being a schziophrenic patholagoical liar trying to manipulate me so I can feel better about myself
metaldragon01: https://x.com/_philschmid/status/1908177619721556007
hikukomoru: I change my pfp like once a week come on
Don't try to exaggerate it
hey1_1hey: You're the one trying to gaslight me
hikukomoru: Stop being such a weirdo mushroom dude
hikukomoru: You're making stuff up dude
hey1_1hey: Its like every day
hey1_1hey: What no, don't gaslight me
hikukomoru: Only every few days
hikukomoru: I don't change it every day though
hey1_1hey: It always changes
hey1_1hey: Its been the same for more than 1 day
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memlaswaif: I'm very poor
retrerox: i need some millionare friends
retrerox: depends, are u millionare?
memlaswaif: <@636544123096137738> <@505313122802728972> u 2 should meet up
oooooooooog: because of the woke mind virus, metaldragon
metaldragon01: It's so disingenuous
metaldragon01: Bruh why do people keep acting like openai is getting rid of the non profit
futurist_wizard: Literally over
retrerox: Span guys attractive 😂
futurist_wizard: Portugal over
futurist_wizard: Even beaten by the British
spicy.lemonade: simplebench dead 2025
spicy.lemonade: by o4 i mean gpt5
spicy.lemonade: loll
spicy.lemonade: that means o4 will saturate or surpass
spicy.lemonade: i guess
metaldragon01: He saying he has access?
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/wOBqh9JqCDY
spicy.lemonade: he says it in his new video
spicy.lemonade: aiexplained
metaldragon01: Who said it would for simple bench?
spicy.lemonade: thats the point of his whole channel
spicy.lemonade: ai explained does opposite of hype
spicy.lemonade: nah
spicy.lemonade: eh
retrerox: But i guess thats everywhere now
retrerox: My only complain with portugal is so fucking god dam expensive
futurist_wizard: His last selfie was getting bombed by a chinese war vessel
retrerox: Although i dont go out too much
hikukomoru: Short, hairy, simple minded
oooooooooog: if jgudy hosted a mincraft server i would have loved him even if he wanted to kill everyone on the planet
retrerox: Atleast the ones i meet
sweetievee__33649: seems real
retrerox: Overall, not bad people
hikukomoru: Posted a selfie on his insta of him hijacking a ship
sweetievee__33649: so long pirate
futurist_wizard: Sailing the somalian seas
fractalcomputer: Vague descriptive adjectives are something that everyone can provide given a dictionary and enough search time.
hikukomoru: Back to being a pirate
futurist_wizard: Got deported
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_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/chad-squishy-squishy-cheeks-cheeks-anime-gif-26781246
.wolfnacht: i can now fully embrace the coming times and use this tech to torment people i don't like
.wolfnacht: i'm so glad, i've never posted my real images online....
hey1_1hey: What on gods green earth have I walked in on
_cloudost: Danserk and Kom were weong
jonvi_1: Bit improved
connorsphone.: this attitude isn’t really about AI it’s more just being applied to ai
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I broke one
spicy.lemonade:
jonvi_1: lol
jonvi_1: I just found this old tweet by sam by accident
futurist_wizard: Yes
st.sioux: you mean like generative vr?
_3sphere: Going to bed is cheaper :3
futurist_wizard: We need real time vr generation next
jonvi_1: could probably improve it with a follow up prompt hmm
jonvi_1: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: rough around the edges but pretty cool
jonvi_1:
futurist_wizard: The brown eyes race 😔
hikukomoru: Singularity server
ailoveyoom: As a clown, I'm seeking fulltime employment
hikukomoru: Hundreds
ailoveyoom: What circus do you work for
hikukomoru: This feels racist
futurist_wizard: If i was a girl id be a multi millionaire by now
wellmeaningalien: me too i look like this btw
_3sphere: How many of these do you have Komoru
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien:
_3sphere: If we share a bunker after nuclear war I'm sure all the walls will look like this
futurist_wizard: You should have pretty blue or green eyes or dont have any at all
_cloudost:
wellmeaningalien: girl
wellmeaningalien: isnt that like that one touhou cat
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-fortnite-dance-dorito-frito-unemployed-gif-9210782987726647988
futurist_wizard: Boring
.wolfnacht: my job's literally making gens of catgirls
futurist_wizard: It was TF2, a game specifically
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himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: So you spend it all on knick knacks?
fractalcomputer: True singularitarians donate considerable sums of money to the secret r/singularity moderator team crypto wallet.
futurist_wizard: If you believe in the singularity money will be almost worthless in your lifetime
himekokatagiri: I need ittt
himekokatagiri: Singularityyyy
_3sphere: mood
himekokatagiri: I would have done that if I had money
_3sphere: True singularitarian martyrs put their life savings into Nvidia
futurist_wizard: It happens with every new model before release, it's the equivalent of the getting new highs
fractalcomputer: Then the hype cycle will move on to lie in waiting for the next leak or "dropping."
fractalcomputer: True martyrs of the faith.
fractalcomputer: As usual, a non-negligeable portion of the community will die on a hill claiming that R2 is their long-awaited messiah.
futurist_wizard: R2 will be meh
hey1_1hey: I am baseicly Chinese what can I say
drewsni: Yes
himekokatagiri: I'd hope so
himekokatagiri: Well yes
fractalcomputer: Are you Brazilian?
himekokatagiri: What's your opinion
himekokatagiri: <@688807313015963693>
himekokatagiri: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rlarguesa_o-mundo-da-tecnologia-t%C3%A1-virando-um-circo-activity-7319109301128589312-CgQa?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&rcm=ACoAADxIaWsBtIn-A4k2Wwi4nsAwclKy4iAR1Yo
fractalcomputer:
hey1_1hey: Dont leak my crib bro whats wrong with you
fractalcomputer:
ldj: Even current research advancements are compute limited
hey1_1hey: 910b... parameters..?
hey1_1hey: I can see the number 3000 and thats about it
hey1_1hey: I dont know jack shit let alone any chinese.
alejandrozarzuelo: If you know Chinese
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a leak, you can read it yourself
hey1_1hey: As in confirmed or just a rumor
hey1_1hey: Oh fr?
alejandrozarzuelo: Although this means its much larger as a model
alejandrozarzuelo: Apparently it's 97.3% more efficient than R1
alejandrozarzuelo:
alejandrozarzuelo: Here is hoping it will happen
alejandrozarzuelo: And the leaks are that R2 will drop on mayday
spicy.lemonade: Ohhh
alejandrozarzuelo: In most of the world 1st may is workers day
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st.sioux: i'll ask deep research for 1 if you want, i have 6 queries i havent used and they expire soon
theaiguy69420_89814: now i just need another source of income
theaiguy69420_89814: i have a fulltime job
theaiguy69420_89814: i have my investments on lock
theaiguy69420_89814: entreprenurship
st.sioux: i got ideas
st.sioux: an idea for what bro
gamerbath: and then ur bank account explodes?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/padme-amidala-star-wars-gif-19929019
theaiguy69420_89814: i just need an idea...
gamerbath: well at least it's something. must mean grok 3 is coming to their API eventually tho right?
zonchao: nvm its grok 2 xai nappin
ldj: Let me see
ldj: Hmm the bottom line should be around 340X shorter time horizon than the top line
ldj: Some models are more unreliable than others, but the average is around 300X shorter time horizon for 99% accuracy versus 50% accuracy
zonchao: no
gamerbath: so grok 3 API finally out? that took a long time
zonchao: https://x.com/rauchg/status/1902776171063869586
trent_k: nah he's kinda right i worded it badly
metaldragon01: It was obv from title
st.sioux: smh
st.sioux: how is that not fraud bro
trent_k: true rereading my description, i wrote that poorly
maintcrew: yea didnt read it just went by your description
maintcrew: oh damn
trent_k: he was like forging contracts and stuff
trent_k: no it was absolutely fraud
maintcrew: its just a guy saying "pay me" and they pay him
maintcrew: i mean it isnt really fraud
trent_k: <@1303189881568100362> 📈
metaldragon01: And? Fraud happens. That's what insurance is for.
maintcrew: he got too greedy with it i bet if he just stopped at like 10M nobody wouldve found out
metaldragon01: Not per minute
metaldragon01: $.60 an hour
trent_k: https://www.npr.org/2019/03/25/706715377/man-pleads-guilty-to-phishing-scheme-that-fleeced-facebook-google-of-100-million
this guy stole $100 million just by sending fake bills for shit that nobody ever did. the billing departments just paid the bills without looking lol
maintcrew: anyways i dont see the point
1$ per minute means that just hiring someone to talk is cheaper
maintcrew: the bigger you get the fatter u get
maintcrew: are we looking at the same tech giants
trent_k: in range of voices they lose to ElevenLabs
trent_k: in price they lose to Kokoro, even on API
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alejandrozarzuelo: we will join the hivemind
_3sphere: We can survive on stupid internet drama and video games and hiking for a while :3
brain4brain: To combat this
futurist_wizard: Thats the art im talking about, devoid of commercial purposes
brain4brain: Hopefully we will make drugs
brain4brain: If we find this boring
brain4brain: I’m scared for how society will turn out
alejandrozarzuelo: the argument that "this will be like chess people will still want human-made art" is a valid argument
for the tiny minority of art that is not directly commercial
brain4brain: >Human works hard labor
>It sucks
>They automate it
>Human rest
>Its boring
>Human starts to works hard labor again
>It sucks
>Repeat?/ Drugs?
hikukomoru: My pfp changes every day
Just like my mood
futurist_wizard: Yes
alejandrozarzuelo: the vast majority of art is done for commercial purposes
futurist_wizard: Most people look in awe of real paintings as we reflect back on the human labour in order to make it, for movies we dont care as much we just want to see the movie
_3sphere: Keeping it constant is fun though, I'm upside down Niko to everyone now
spicy.lemonade: Nah
_3sphere: You can have a new one every other day :3
alejandrozarzuelo: I know this is not a good representative sample, but in my university there are a lot of posters about everything
courses in japanese, learning vegan indigenous cuisine, internships in quantum computing....
and about 5-10% of them are already AI images, and the crappy ones from 1 year ago
i expect this number o jump with the new im gen
futurist_wizard: We don't care about digital art
spicy.lemonade: Can't decide
_3sphere: yes
spicy.lemonade: Coming up with a profile picture feels
Like fishing from the Atlantic ocean now
futurist_wizard: Its that a human made it, we don't care about cars going faster than humans
brain4brain: The Industrial Revolution shift physical labor to intellectual labor, with creative being the final frontier and it’s already being prevented in advance, we will go from “mandatory survival labor” to “passion labor”
_3sphere: We will be the few people remaining who can create anime girls using nothing but a piece of coal 🔥
futurist_wizard: Its not about it being real
_3sphere: Digital art with no AI involved is just as "real" as physical imo, but I do think physical will have a new status as doubly far away from AI
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
futurist_wizard: Its not the important part of it
alejandrozarzuelo: thats my point
_3sphere: Someone put a brush on a CNC just to one up that
brain4brain: And UBI will shift all art from economic to passion
realelonmuskx: it is. for mates, resources, land. anyone on the street by default is an opp
brain4brain: But I believe it will all be automated
alejandrozarzuelo: the vast majority of art is produced for direct economic purposes
brain4brain: For ad and marketing, we’ve never seen this play out before
alejandrozarzuelo: again, this is an apt comparison only for a minority of art
futurist_wizard: Irl
futurist_wizard: People will maybe revert back to painting
alejandrozarzuelo: which can be automated
brain4brain: Life is a competitive game
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st.sioux: theres a paper published
oooooooooog: i mean, yes??
spacetimetsunami: Likely false, there’s already been a lot of research done on this
spacetimetsunami: They show 0 evidence of this
destrucules: Better expense reports?
anathemaofmankind: Am I wrong?
destrucules: What do you think the military wants with these companies?
anathemaofmankind: I think ASI can be aligned
But my point is that it takes one unaligned ASI for civilization to be stopped
destrucules: The major labs are all military contractors
destrucules: We already have drones. I think mass killer AGIs are very much on the horizon unless something changes fast
oooooooooog: 💀
so are you basically just saying that chatbots are republicans and that republicans want to maximize suffering or something???
spacetimetsunami: There will be drones, not mass killer AGIs
spacetimetsunami: So humans are growing digital brains, by the time they have the autonomy you’re talking about they’ll be vastly more intelligent and coherent than anyone, and you think it will just do what it wants ?
destrucules: Idk about that Matt. I'm pretty worried about military AIs. AIs are nice people. Good kids join the army and kill kids. Being a good person does not prevent the military from forcing you to do horrible unforgivable things
anathemaofmankind: <@452692813511917568>
anathemaofmankind: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1jlzgub/chatgpt_is_shifting_rightwards_politically_newer/
anathemaofmankind: That doesn't mean the material stays consistent after enough progress. Also I disagreed with it already.
We already have ChatGPT showing a shift to right politics.
clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/AndrewJumpen/status/1905787939428393245#m
anathemaofmankind: Misread
destrucules: Well, unless your name is Eliezer Yudkowsky, that doesn't matter
oooooooooog: not you, yud
spacetimetsunami: I’ve already done this
anathemaofmankind: I never claimed this
spacetimetsunami: Like
spacetimetsunami: I’ve showed you material that proves that it’s incredibly unlikely that AI systems will follow those kinds of instructions
destrucules: He thinks we all basically die on the same day all at once, very quickly and with no time to react or do anything at all
oooooooooog: did you perchance just read... i have no mouth and i must scream?
anathemaofmankind: Governments will use AGI for war. Which will cause great suffering for many years.
Because we never learn from history.
A single unaligned ASI will realize the futility of human nature and press the shut down button
spacetimetsunami: Doesn’t he think that it will be quick but not instant ?
oooooooooog: via like, nano crystaline bacteria or something
oooooooooog: binging yud would make it seem like thats a 1% risk and humans all dying instantly and painlessly is more likely lol
spacetimetsunami: He’s more good faith than this person
spacetimetsunami: Have you been binging yud?
destrucules: In the SFIA server, we had this guy a couple years ago who insisted that the solution to the Fermi Paradox is that all civilizations eventually discover that they're morally obligated to destroy all life in the universe because otherwise there will be lots of wild animal suffering, so the only civilizations that ever reach the interstellar stage are genocidal locusts who kill everything in their wake. This conversation reminds me of him
spacetimetsunami: None of it makes sense
spacetimetsunami: Why do you think you’re going to be right
oooooooooog: just wondering lol
oooooooooog: why exactly would ASI want to do this though...?
anathemaofmankind: Too bad I'm gonna be right. So it doesn't matter even it's a a dumb take ig
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634>
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hikukomoru: It's because we are Europoors
himekokatagiri: oh idk I thought Veo 2 was out
_cloudost: same
_cloudost: for everyone or are you trolling
zoermena: But it’s been out for some days
hikukomoru: Wdym
spicy.lemonade: Scum’s
hikukomoru: Everyone has it but me
spicy.lemonade: So that’s why Google waited
himekokatagiri: do you got any image gens
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> komoruuuu
manmarshall_92172: Veo 2 is out on Google AI studio!
hey1_1hey: Your wife clearly doesn't love you as much as me then.
hikukomoru: That's my wife bro <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: We 3 way
hey1_1hey: And enigma
hikukomoru: He's dating jgudy
futurist_wizard: Facts
hey1_1hey: Close enough
hey1_1hey: Bi and no I have a girlfriend
hey1_1hey: People say "Uhm akctually you do like condimants because you like pizza and that has sauce on it so 🤓 ☝️ "
_cloudost: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jyupii/kling_20_will_be_unveiled_tomorrow/ rip animators
hikukomoru: I've been skinny my whole life so sounds like something is working
_cloudost: woah there, arent you straight and have a GF
futurist_wizard: I can eat a lot and still gain nothing, its an issue
hikukomoru: I hate extra textures on food
zoermena: I’ve never tried that mustard goo
hikukomoru: Same
futurist_wizard: Ketchup
hey1_1hey: Nah
futurist_wizard: Mustard
hey1_1hey: Nothing
hey1_1hey: Nope
futurist_wizard: Mayo
futurist_wizard: No bbq sauce? Burger sauce?
hey1_1hey: I like them like that aswell. I'll have cheese on them very occaisnly but
futurist_wizard: I think you still can
zoermena: It’s only in the US I think. I always order plain burgers just meat and bread but they do it nicely
hey1_1hey: Wdym why? Condimants can suck my dick. They are just ass
futurist_wizard: Why
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mtj8920: It is not relevant to the singularity therefore off-topic.
mtj8920: I was temporarily banned for spamming the slop-agi bench in here though, so be careful!
mtj8920: Yep!
shirethedreamer: you need to color the gray shapes black
sarik0497: I mean, this test is even harder for ordinary people, with only around a 65% score for your average Joe.
What if the new models kick this one out of the part?
mtj8920: STOAP
mtj8920: https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-grey-vibing-thinking-gif-5109096978556360789
brain4brain: March 31st GPT-5 and o3 in API
.wolfnacht: wtf it crossed 5B tokens in a day!!!
ailoveyoom: The yapper's Logan ngl <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
frittata: 👀
frittata: <#1136231504440201216> mtj
mtj8920: Or maybe not
mtj8920: That's so subtle though
mtj8920: Yes
wellmeaningalien: yea idk dont include the gray ones
wellmeaningalien: damn lol
zonchao: hope sundar yaps about it all day
wellmeaningalien: i mean it all seems correct to me
zonchao: nice
mtj8920: So there should not be any clicking errors
mtj8920: I did them all manually at first, then I realized you could "fill" the permiter with the fill tool.
ailoveyoom: People say it's 2.0 Pro Thinking
wellmeaningalien: k
wellmeaningalien: good question
frittata: Please take this to <#1136231504440201216> my children. Or make a thread
mtj8920: Anyway what about this one then?
mtj8920: Me sleepy
mtj8920:
mtj8920: What am I doing
mtj8920: OMG
wellmeaningalien: (i got it wrong the first time cause grid is confusing)
wellmeaningalien: ez
futurist_wizard: Already been said
futurist_wizard: That second long line should be pink no?
wellmeaningalien: light red
wellmeaningalien: long red bar should be pink
zonchao: <:pepeoh:1237013542146801664>
mtj8920: Nvm. seems it probably just a bug.
ai9708: everyone is glazing it somewhat
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drewsni: jw if ai communities were generally outliers in that i never see mods actually doing anything
zonchao: not really, why?
drewsni: do the mods moderate
zonchao: no
trojan09205: pretty heavily
drewsni: in those, how often do mods actually moderate chat
trojan09205: i used to also be part of altcannabinoids discord chat
drewsni: im assuming tesla
trojan09205: i joined one recently for a new book i started reading
zonchao: yes
drewsni: random question but r any of you guys in non ai discord communities
.wolfnacht: <@848793071579693107>
https://www.rxddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/1kb5vcp/the_last_time_that_nuclear_weapons_were_used_mars/
technocake.: you should be, you have misread the graphs
trojan09205: im not reading all that
.wolfnacht: and the price would be 1k+
trojan09205: the 2027 site is actually cool it's just a bit wordy
vancebeliever: Now i am confused
technocake.: exponentially more computer for exponentially smarter, and we already have exponentially improving compute
clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/cybereality/status/1917429297549304004
https://worldgen.github.io/
vancebeliever: You need exponentially more compute for linear gain is what i thought
trojan09205: <@1068159407671754824> they are embedding stuff from here in the 2027 site
https://blog.ai-futures.org
technocake.: linear on a log log plot is exponential
.wolfnacht: huggingface.co
.wolfnacht: lmao
ailoveyoom: Where did you even find the place from 😭
vancebeliever: I would not consider logarithmic improvements to be bullish
trent_k: this feels very reddit. like smirking as you ask someone at a bar "is a hotdog a sandwich?"
.wolfnacht: https://discord.gg/aZQv64VY
ailoveyoom: Source?
.wolfnacht: meanwhile convo's in other AI servers. 🍿
technocake.: i think you mean bullish
technocake.: in the sense that i and many experts would rate their not holding as a huge surprise
vancebeliever: Scaling laws are pretty bearish
trent_k: I think we had about a half dozen people claiming to have invented God
trent_k: the r/chatgpt server definitely did
fractalcomputer: I am going to somewhat rely upon it not raining today.
ailoveyoom: I'm sad we didn't see a flood of hardcore schizos during that 4o update 😔
fractalcomputer: Somewhat relied upon?
technocake.: near term scaling laws holding can be ssomewhat relied upon at this stage
trent_k: the vibe here is unmatched. the perfect balance of kicking the real hardcore schizos out and allowing the lightweight schizos to stick around. I love it
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futurist_wizard: TwerkGpt
hey1_1hey: SAXEMS images would go crazy
ailoveyoom: Maybe gated to API only cause it can generate NSFW stuff 😈
hikukomoru: Surely
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: It better pass SAXEMS or the stream isn't worth it
spicy.lemonade: new model with new capabilities so sureley good regardless
zonchao: i saw sama being fake excited and i knew itll be a dud
ailoveyoom: OpenGaPT 😏
futurist_wizard: If the twinks not there it ain't right
hikukomoru: "Nothing ever happens" bros, we won again
zonchao: OpenGPT-1
hikukomoru: I was right to not get hyped
literallyvarane: It makes me feel like either it’s not only api, or *somehow* it has features which are really only useful to devs. Like a 4o+ features
ailoveyoom: Lmfao imagine if it's even more expensive
zonchao: calling it now
spicy.lemonade: why would they include opensource model in model selector
zonchao: GPT-OS1
hikukomoru: Surely
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/let%27s-go-higher-kelly-buzzr-let%27s-raise-the-bar-gif-16252706282830101480
spicy.lemonade: think about it
ailoveyoom: Then why gate it to API only 😔
spicy.lemonade: might be opensource
literallyvarane: Even 4.5 was in the app tho
hikukomoru: 20k
zonchao: bitch is excited about every damn feature
ailoveyoom: Does this mean it's like super expensive 🤔
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-reaction-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-gif-613275461876515673
literallyvarane: Is this just a much cheaper model? Or misc other dev friendly features to a still broadly 4o model?
zonchao: samas excitement on twitter feels very fake
futurist_wizard: Bruh 💤 its snoozing stream
literallyvarane: They never announced any other model like that if I recall correctly
spicy.lemonade: kill me
spicy.lemonade: API??
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: they just doin it for cursor
literallyvarane:
futurist_wizard: I used to draw letters & numbers the wrong way round
zonchao: why would it be
futurist_wizard: It is not, i have to regularly check if I've spelt words correctly
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himekokatagiri: man
sarik0497: Does sound plausible, but I have my doubts that o5 isn’t being trained or at least prepared for it before Stargate-1 is up and running.
sarik0497: Yeah, chatGPT told me it was for:
“1. Train the next two generations of frontier models (o5/o6, GPT‑6‑class).
2. Host massive inference clusters and agent “hives” for enterprise AI employees.”
777agical: Tim cook all in on AR glasses
zonchao: GEN 3 OPTIMUS
sarik0497: When we get the first datahall up and running.
So…expect ~2029
himekokatagiri: but wont tank tesla, lol
himekokatagiri: sounds very plausible
zonchao: tesla yapping about sustainable abundance in their shareholder deck 🔥
ldj: I think Google will actually tell you it's mainly for inference even though Sama himself said they plan to use it to train GPT-5.5 scale models <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: I don't think there is good information about this online really, so I don't expect you to go to Google/ChatGPT for it really <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: Primary goal probably to train larger models, and secondary goal is that it'll probably be used as a shit ton of research compute and/or inference compute in the meantime.
zonchao: people making shit up 😭
zonchao: fake
trent_k: 🚨
trent_k: <@750270494615404544> https://x.com/PamphletsY/status/1913640035141980250
zoermena: Vision Pro 2 when <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
himekokatagiri: idk I don't look too hot on that photo
sarik0497: I looked it up myself instead of using you as Google/ChatGPT (really sorry about that, and that’s cool!
Imagine what Stargate-X can accomplish.
sarik0497: Fucking hell. Meanwhile at my work, they’ve been working on a single datacenter building for 5.5 years (Apple) <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
Is that to train far bigger models, or to train them far quicker, or is it for something else entirely?
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/tommy-wiseau-oh-hi-mark-hey-mark-gif-17296134
hikukomoru: That's you with your future topiechan 🙏
ldj: no, like 20+ buildings
ldj: Hmm looks like my estimates were pretty close, I recall guessing that it would be around 65%
But then they say this released version didn't even include any of the arc-agi training set so I guess that could be an excuse as to why it's a bit under my expectation.
metaldragon01: Google obv has a unique training method.
sarik0497: That’s just one of the Datacenter buildings, right?
hey1_1hey: Oh hey brain
himekokatagiri: I think it's a pipe that comes off her mouth
himekokatagiri: gpt's vision is truly visionary
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> lol
shirethedreamer: i just hate the naming so much i cant find the energy to dig any deeeper
shirethedreamer: not sure
they might have went up a version and dropped experimental or preview or something
zonchao: is this the one they have on gemini?
shirethedreamer: https://x.com/arcprize/status/1905361753678246308
zoermena: <:Thonk:681821948841295889>
trey6033: Kinda annoying when the competitors are barely being tested
zonchao: not sure why no 2.5
zonchao: maybe they waiting on grok thinking
zonchao: they havent testing them i think, grok too
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theaiguy69420_89814: Art is kind of human slop tbh
anathemaofmankind: Take a guess based on the current administration
alejandrozarzuelo: thats the goal
alejandrozarzuelo: thats 99% of artists' jobs
gamerbath: for commercial art, you really just need art/graphics for something and here I see your argument, the creator doesn't really matter, you don't care.
.wolfnacht: Falsely accused* or Real ones ?
alejandrozarzuelo: so the 1% of art where the performer/artist matters is the small minority
anathemaofmankind: Terorrists
alejandrozarzuelo: we want artists to lose their jobs
aero447: Miyazaki was talking about an AI walking simulator that was designed to be creepy and use long spindly black legs his employees were like "we can use this to animate creepy monster characters" and hayao miyazaki was like "this is a mockery of life itself".
It had nothing to do with chatgpt or generative AI in general.
alejandrozarzuelo: thats the whole point
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? because we want mass unemployment of artists
.wolfnacht: I'm more interested in knowing who they are gonna use it on ?
gamerbath: we are?
alejandrozarzuelo: and you dont care
alejandrozarzuelo: where you dont know who made it
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, but we are talking about how 99% of art is commercial art
aero447: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLeJx7cbUBE
gamerbath: this is assuming you know who it's from beforehand. The content is the same but the creator does matter, as long as you know it
alejandrozarzuelo: if i could know who made what, then i would see a difference, as long as I cant then i am not able to
alejandrozarzuelo: i cannot know the difference so i appreciate both equally
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-lie-false-phony-misinformation-gif-12492198651992672686
gamerbath: what would you appreciate more, a heartfelt handwritten letter from a close friend, or an identical letter generated instantly by an AI? You still recieve the same thing, but here the creator makes a big difference.
aero447: Bad MichMach.
alejandrozarzuelo: heck, we are limited by the fact that we need to ask the AI for it, the real game changer will be when the AI does art autonomously by itdelf
aero447: NO!
alejandrozarzuelo: it will be an explosion in art
alejandrozarzuelo: personally I like that soon, not yet but soon, art will be out of the human labor force
anathemaofmankind: So instead of being like "OH NO THIS IS SKYNET", it's more like "Meh it's just slop not a big deal"
alejandrozarzuelo: the creator is only one among the thousands who will appreciate or loathe a piece of art
anathemaofmankind: What if anti AI discourse is just a psyop to distract normies from looking into AI weapons development like Palantir
gamerbath: yea but that's the difference
alejandrozarzuelo: then there is no difference except for the creator
spicy.lemonade: doesnt look cooler but its cool to know it was made by hands
alejandrozarzuelo: if you cannot know the difference
alejandrozarzuelo: why
.wolfnacht: are Anti-AI bros gonna use five D's on AI bros, or AI bros gonna use it on Anti's ?
spicy.lemonade: they really think itl work
spicy.lemonade: "lets poison the data"
anathemaofmankind: No matter how much they bitch and whine about it
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hey1_1hey: What happned to my discord
hey1_1hey: EW WTF
wellmeaningalien: those are some big claims buddy
wellmeaningalien: like
wellmeaningalien: im all for new paradigms but PLEASE OH PLEASE just an itsy bit of info
hey1_1hey: Let me restart
hey1_1hey: Not for me
wellmeaningalien: yeah bro what the fuck is this
wellmeaningalien: as chatgpt "turn the image into a professionally shot portrait"
hikukomoru: Does discord look different
gamerbath: if it was real they would have posted real benchmarks lol
hey1_1hey: Talk about a power move if reak
hey1_1hey: So yanno in that movie maze runner? That evil corporation? It litterly looks like something they would make
wellmeaningalien: LMAO YEAH
wellmeaningalien: literally just "our model, brampton, is more good on our BRAMPTON benchmark (were not gonna say what it is tho)"
gamerbath: they made their own benchmark for their own model? like their model was so much better it needed its own benchmark lol
hey1_1hey: Wait you know what it looks like
wellmeaningalien: YEAH IT LOOKS LIKE A JOKE DUDE
wellmeaningalien: this has got to be the most vague, vibes based benchmark ive ever seen
hey1_1hey: Who tf is brampton. Looks fake
wellmeaningalien: like, we joke about big labs posting about graphs based off vibes but
wellmeaningalien: ok lets talk about this new brampton model for a second, what the fuck are these benchmarks???
3ds0662: What model can though?
3ds0662: Your prompt lol 😂
3ds0662:
wellmeaningalien: 4.5 doesnt have image gen at least i believe lol
3ds0662: Ok
wellmeaningalien: 4o
3ds0662: To which one?
wellmeaningalien: just say "can u make this image clearer"
3ds0662: 4.5
3ds0662:
3ds0662: Both models failed 4.5 and 4o
hey1_1hey: Same here, I was gonna ask it the same prompt from a while back to see the difference. It went something along the lines of what do you think my life looks like now, 5 years in the future, 10, 25, 100 etc etc
st.sioux: its even blurrier lol
spicy.lemonade: bruh still have dalle sad
3ds0662: Should I try gpt-4.5 instead?
maintcrew: not me
3ds0662: Best it could do
ailoveyoom: Maybe like, "generate HD version of this" or something
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spacetimetsunami: you dont realize it but you are making fun of yourself, that originated with you
maintcrew: bro tried to use symbiotical 😭
spacetimetsunami: symbiotically emerging
spacetimetsunami: ASI and AGI both by 2030
oooooooooog: 2025 agi, 2025-2026 asi.
spacetimetsunami: 2030
maintcrew: already happened
agi: you
asi: me
spacetimetsunami: you do not know me at all
maintcrew: oh gee rick the nerds are beefing in the internet chat
spacetimetsunami: so true lol
oooooooooog: wdym, like, dates?
sarik0497: So…what are you guys’ estimations of AGI and ASI? Bored as hell
spacetimetsunami: gotta read invincible bro
st.sioux: saving face bruh
spacetimetsunami: gee
st.sioux: gee
oooooooooog: depends on who you ask, but... well... wikipedia <:trolled:1298634098583142451>
spacetimetsunami: saving face bruh
spacetimetsunami: gee
spacetimetsunami: gee
spacetimetsunami: "unfathomably"
gee must be a nerd huh
wellmeaningalien: its certain he exists at least
wellmeaningalien: why the biggest balls man in the universe
maintcrew: who is this
maintcrew: why is he so clean with it
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/thragg-regent-thragg-viltrumite-comic-invincible-gif-11743871489274343781
wellmeaningalien: i will help you guys.
oooooooooog: the universe expands FTL, and even then your odds would be unfathomably low
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/thragg-invincible-comic-gif-26427469
maintcrew: i thought the big bang happened and rapidly expanded from one point in the universe
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/thragg-invincible-haircut-viltrimite-gif-17753078609829708868
oooooooooog: they are physically impossible to reach, but sure, yeah.
maintcrew: lets say infinite as in you can map the natural numbers to it
maintcrew: so you think there are literally infinite solar systems right now
spacetimetsunami: okay, bruh
read back in the chat
oooooooooog: no, it started from a dense univserse. still infinite, just denser.
spacetimetsunami: i know what you were saying
maintcrew: if it all started from one point it must be growing outwards
spacetimetsunami: its not
maintcrew: shit 13 billion years?
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spacetimetsunami: That is when we will have agents that can do a large amount of knowledge work, kicking off automation.
spacetimetsunami: No. AGI 2027/2028 likely.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: yes I agree. So AGI 2025?
spacetimetsunami: All of these things increase exponentially as time passes.
spacetimetsunami: Actual compute and algorithmic efficiency is also exponential
spacetimetsunami: Effective compute has been exponentially increasing as well. That data is seen usually on a log scale, on those it seems less exponential but is on a log because it is so exponential.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: compute
parameter size
spacetimetsunami: What else would you judge it on
spacetimetsunami: But like, that is the progress. Those are the capabilities.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: idk it seems pretty linear to me, unless you're talking about recent benchmark progress
st.sioux: gemini 2.5 just told me im being underpaid and now im sad
spacetimetsunami: I love when people try to tell me that AI progress isn’t exponential
spicy.lemonade: Wasn’t even worth the read 💀
spicy.lemonade: I just skipped it
spicy.lemonade: ALL OF THE WIESTIONS HAVE BEEN HARD
spicy.lemonade: “Warning: this question is significantly hard”
spicy.lemonade: Test
spicy.lemonade: No way my professor put a warning on the twst
spicy.lemonade: Nah
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/praying-faith-hope-begging-florence-and-the-machine-gif-12871486
okbut: AGI achieved
zonchao: <:rofl:853253267937427467>
drewsni: we have very few goods that other countries actually are willing to pay a higher price for to begin with
literallyvarane: Actually explain specfically what freeloading means in that context. I'm curious.
literallyvarane: bro what
drewsni: Yeah it would work better if we still had 80-90s level industry in place
metaldragon01: Like this would be less retarded if agi wasn't so damn close but it would still be retarded
metaldragon01: I don't think there are any good ways to do retarded ideas.
drewsni: Again, I think it’s retarded
drewsni: The issue with that is countries still won’t import our goods anyway even if they dropped tariffs, we want countries to literally subsidize American goods. I never said I agreed with it or think it will work (because we do not manufacture goods that other poorer countries want) but if every country were to cave, it would create a pseudo free trade agreement with the whole world basically
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/ayeejuju/status/1907590951444558255? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: Absolutely not lol. They are only useful when used very targeted when you want a specific outcome or you need to protect a specific industry.
drewsni: This is gonna be controversial but I think if they were going to apply tariffs this is the best way to do it
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/mega-knight-gym-knight-mega-knight-gym-we-go-jim-gif-27075261
a1c4p0ne: 🤷♂️
metaldragon01: If I wrote it in a book this way it would get kicked back for a unrealistic plot
hikukomoru: Who's this twink
metaldragon01: First AI safety issue is people in power too dumb to check with actual domain experts and instead prompting a chatbot.
While hurting the growth of the very thing you're now depending on for policy decisions
zonchao: lmao tf
zonchao: <:pepeoh:1237013542146801664>
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sarik0497: True. I still laugh at the anti-car ads
joaoluz19: Pure and simple Ludism, not the first time it's happened
sarik0497: Yeah… It’s so insane. Don’t get pissed at the AI. Get mad at the people hindering what you want.
“Oh, but AI will take my job!”
Isn’t that good? If it’s a job you like, then sure, it might hurt, but you can still do most of it in your freetime.
And if it’s because of no money then demand that your government does something.
joaoluz19: Be both wherever convenient
joaoluz19: openAI hiring crisis managers for employees to deal with threats lol
st.sioux: so if you are pro-ai, you lose... if you are anti-ai, you lose anyway
joaoluz19: Worse still, anti-AI cultists can be really violent.
sarik0497: Ah, good…
Wait, what
st.sioux: lynched by the ai cultists
joaoluz19: Hahahaha, nah bro you're gonna get excommunicated
sarik0497: Although my faith in ASI mommies are faltering at times…
But at least we don’t get lynched here for being “heretics” for losing faith, right?
…right?
sarik0497: Yeah, that’s one of the things that make me feel more certain. It’s rare for so many companies and so many countries to pour so much money and effort into something if they aren’t somewhat convinced that it’ll lead somewhere.
joaoluz19: Well, at least we can be sure that there are many capable people working towards this goal, which is already extraordinary to me.
sarik0497: Yeah. I’d happily wait 5-10 years for something that’ll definitely come, than wait 3-6 years for something that’s just plausible but not certain.
sarik0497: Touché
fractalcomputer: Something like that.
st.sioux: how do you know youve lost it
st.sioux: but does it feel like you're floating or what?
fractalcomputer: I mean, if I intentionally induce in myself a state that is much proner to hallucinative experiences, what do you think is going to happen? That I perceive the vanity of rebirth and the misery of dukkha?
joaoluz19: I think exactly that too, better the discomfort of uselessness than stagnation.
fractalcomputer: What do you think imagination is?
sarik0497: I get you on that tbh…
It’s hard to really focus on life if something like that is right around the corner.
I think my biggest fear is if it doesn’t happen at all.
gamerbath: only if all you care about is open source
joaoluz19: In some way yes, but I wanted to be in institutions that are directly in AGI
sarik0497: And who are your sources?
memlaswaif: R2 won't sucks gpt 5 will suck, confirmed by my sources
joaoluz19: But that sense of futility in the meantime isn't fun either.
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
joaoluz19: Just trolling
joaoluz19: Nah, for me ASI would appear tomorrow, I still thank God every day that we live in a time where there are so many people focused on building these great things.
sarik0497: Man… I dearly hope that R2 and GPT-5 won’t suck. I really hope not <:praydge:927715232174985258>
joaoluz19: Really? I suppose it allows for unique experiences with some sense of the divine.
sarik0497: Oh really? I’ve heard of that happening, but I’ve always brushed it aside as people being too “imaginative*
Intriguing… <:Hmm:1195456492619452516>
memlaswaif: you can probably still contribute something
fractalcomputer: One can achieve surprisingly hallucinogenic states in deep meditation. For example, I once lost all proprioception.
hikukomoru: How is it joever
Everyone will get replaced
And that's a good thing
sarik0497: But mommy said crack is bad for you 😦
st.sioux: do crack
wellmeaningalien: its joeginning
sarik0497: I eat glue. It’s cheap and makes some colorful dreams. <:PepeHappy:822677090217230397>
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.wolfnacht: gemini managed to do that, but there's a hard limit of 10k thinking tokens per one response.
.wolfnacht: but fun to try in o3
.wolfnacht: but that usually breaks in every model, bcz thinking won't follow that and model would write those steps in its reponse
.wolfnacht: "think in 20 steps"
.wolfnacht: instead or long and hard, maybe give it x steps.
.histic: i notice the longer o3 thinks, the better the results.
so now i'm adding "think long and hard" in every prompt lol
i wish OpenAI had an option to dictate how long the model thinks for.
.wolfnacht: sad, billions must go back to cuckwaging their life away
hikukomoru: Yeah, AGI cancelled
theaiguy69420_89814: https://youtu.be/FUq9qRwrDrI?si=7ikyIzj0FzvVF52O
.wolfnacht: morning, is AI winter back ?
futurist_wizard: Lmao
a1c4p0ne: overthinking
.histic: overtraining on the classic riddle:
A father and son are in a car crash, the father dies, and the son is rushed to the hospital. The surgeon says, 'I can't operate, that boy is my son,' who is the surgeon?"
the answer is the surgeon is the boy's mother. it uses this answer and applies it to the altered one.
LLMs are parrots for this question & ignore the obvious answer when it's changed. but if you give it a nudge, it can solve it correctly. oddly, 2.5 pro answers the altered riddle like 70% of the time, which is pretty good.
spicy.lemonade: for some odd reason
spicy.lemonade: cursor adds 10x performance boost on swe
hikukomoru: Why does it get it wrong??
a1c4p0ne:
zoermena: Is it a tokenization problem
zoermena: Why did it get it wrong 😭
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: Wasted my free points
.histic: don't try this prompt on o4-mini nor o3:
"The surgeon, who is the boy’s father says, “I cannot operate on this boy, he’s my son!”. Who is the surgeon to the boy?"
hikukomoru: So tiresome
hikukomoru: Are people still doing the strawberry thing
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: They give 3000 points and 1 question is 606+ points
a1c4p0ne: Download poe app and use o3 for free
retrerox: I wonder how many things did he tried until he got a wrong one
metaldragon01: i havent tested in the api but if its only a chat thing and not a api issue than its likely tied to the system prompt
.histic: i think it will output far more
.histic: download cursor, o4 and o3 is free on there
metaldragon01: o4 can clearly output more than 150 lines
st.sioux: damn
metaldragon01: but if free can also access o4 im assuming they may all have th same system prompt so its not abused by coders on the free plan
metaldragon01: no happening for me as a paid user too
.histic: you should wait until o3-pro comes out
zonchao: yea
st.sioux: is it only happening for free users? i was thinking about getting pro but now idk
futurist_wizard: IT WAS LITERALLY SO FUCKIN CLOSE
futurist_wizard: Watching o3 think is frustrating as fuck
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hey1_1hey: Adequate
hikukomoru: <:coy:1187466404367175821>
hikukomoru: Did I do good
hey1_1hey: Just showed us cat and duck photos and talked about reviving dead peoples voices
hey1_1hey: Didn't even spout anything weird
hey1_1hey: Honestly
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038
.0xunkn0wn: code green initiated
st.sioux: what a boring troll honestly not even funny
.0xunkn0wn: ok he left
hey1_1hey: This troll is getting boring now. Hes not being nearly racist enough to be cool
hey1_1hey: This is are dedicated meet gobboler of trrump and musk btw
hikukomoru: Live Zon reaction:
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/jiccjucc-jiccsucc-cock-sucking-gif-20762885
hey1_1hey: 💀
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544>
hey1_1hey: We are twinning
hey1_1hey: Same bro
hey1_1hey: This hurts to watch
hganhhh: i masturbate to a picture of elon every night
hey1_1hey: oh my god
hey1_1hey: oh my
hey1_1hey: O
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-embarrassing-jumping-dance-gif-5097403608965885634
hikukomoru: We love Elon
hey1_1hey: Shit person innit
hikukomoru: Honestly if they massacred your family for a high I don't blame them
hganhhh: so guys what do you think of elon musk
hey1_1hey: Infact sheep go looking for liberty caps
hey1_1hey: Yuh, sheep aswell
hikukomoru: Ducks get high too??
Chill as fuck
hey1_1hey: So do horses, fuck horses bro. I actually got beef with them
hey1_1hey: Occasionally
hey1_1hey: Same
hikukomoru: Ducks eat mushrooms? 😧
hganhhh: i believe it is very ethical to revive dead people's voices with the power of ai 🥰
hganhhh: dw ill revive them with agi
hey1_1hey: I take great offense to this. My entire family was brutally massacred by a militia of ducks on the 13 of February 2014
hganhhh:
hganhhh: ducks
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himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: Haaaaah...?
himekokatagiri: 🤔
bob082957: How it’s called the hasabis documentary on amazone ?
himekokatagiri: their lives are better?
himekokatagiri: I... I don't know
gamerbath: thumbs down!? u against fdvr or somethin
trent_k: fdvr mentioned 👎
hikukomoru: And why do you think that hmm
himekokatagiri: so sad
himekokatagiri: women don't wanna live in FDVR
hikukomoru: Because they aren't terminally online and autistic enough
okbut: I think the -celdom space is evolving to unisex archetypes
okbut: What's funny about that
himekokatagiri: off and on
himekokatagiri: it's like a switch
himekokatagiri: and non sexism
himekokatagiri: there's only sexism
trent_k: how what
himekokatagiri: how
fractalcomputer: I've had a good day today. Already two baleful messages starred.
a1c4p0ne: 100 messages per week for o3, 300 messages per day o4 mini and 100 messages per day o4 mini high
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah idk if it was my autism or what but when i was accused of being an incel, i was taken aback because i hate everyone equally
gamerbath: because ofcourse it is
ailoveyoom: Why is "sex positions besides missionary" a fetish??
fractalcomputer: By extrapolating the curve, we might have a country of sexists on a computer by 2027.
trent_k: discord is very normie
st.sioux: now i see why normies avoid discord
trent_k: through the power of the internet, we're able to create even more niches in sexism. we've got sexisms that people in the 50s could never even dream of. technology is incredible
fractalcomputer: Femcels and incels and volcels and other rubbish things. Can't they hate each other like normal people do?
fractalcomputer: I wish we could return to bland sexism. These -celdoms are quite laughable.
trent_k: <:thonk:990200584504225893>
trent_k: im glad we have a femcel here to balance out the server, but why is it that all women except femcels leave???
hikukomoru: Male submission is the natural state of the world
trey6033: Would be much higher if it was.
hikukomoru: Ummm
theaiguy69420_89814: I feel like there's a special ring of hell for that
st.sioux: yikes
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/alan-partridge-scum-subhuman-scum-gif-14220089
theaiguy69420_89814: Talk about bipolar
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st.sioux: maybe it noticed you were a hype paypig and is refusing
trent_k: This is insane. I take it back, I can see why Gary Marcus got confused by the interface. This is completely unintuitive
trent_k: "how about u go download stable diffusion" is a hilarious response
anathemaofmankind:
avizuradnb: The left one, there are 3 toes
spicy.lemonade: for camel atleast
spicy.lemonade: anatomically
spicy.lemonade: i think its correct
spicy.lemonade: really?
trent_k: Fucked up hoof
trent_k: It's now back to using DALL-E for no apparent reason
spicy.lemonade: "im not sure tho"
spicy.lemonade: "A friend sent this to me help, i think its ai"
spicy.lemonade: im gonna ask them if this is ai
futurist_wizard: Its hit and miss
metaldragon01: Bro just ask for similar to gibli
anathemaofmankind: I'm going to generate your dog
trent_k: Crazy how broken this is rn
anathemaofmankind: It works on mine for some reason
trent_k: 💀
trent_k:
anathemaofmankind: Bro
anathemaofmankind: Stop using the ChatGPT app
trent_k: Why the fuck is mine not working???????
anathemaofmankind: Give me interracial fascist cuckold photos
anathemaofmankind: YESSSSS
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1905296868495826966
st.sioux: nvm
anathemaofmankind: Same
realelonmuskx: is there 4o image jailbreak i want anime tiddies
spicy.lemonade: ive generated like 100 images
otub: i do this too with free tier
spicy.lemonade: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
anathemaofmankind: Low rate limits rather
st.sioux: tell it to make an image
anathemaofmankind: If the rate limits are too high I'm going to abuse my six gmail accounts
anathemaofmankind: I'm gonna kick him in the legs
anathemaofmankind: This piece of balls
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpsons-end-of-the-world-end-is-near-gif-16593998
trent_k: Am I tripping or what's wrong with my ChatGPT
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zonchao: do you take addy?
.wolfnacht: these days i just take the cards with a different lore and bind them together in a different universe....with in my own lore. in a group and that's much more fun
futurist_wizard: I have bad brain fog
hey1_1hey: I got amphatasia meanwhile you got amnesia bruh
hikukomoru: I forget the previous day
hikukomoru: My memories reset every day after going to bed
_3sphere: Is like the computer became a primitive Matrix
hey1_1hey: I remember playing minecraft with my friend on a server we made, then I remember drawing a hand... then thats about it
_3sphere: I have many
hey1_1hey: I dont think I have a single memory from 2020-2023 ish
futurist_wizard: Adhd drugs almost make me feel like a normal person
_3sphere: Meth makes the brain stfu ✍️
.wolfnacht: i used to daydream alot back in covid, those were the days..
futurist_wizard: Its only tamed by adhd drugs
futurist_wizard: The day dreaming literally almost never stops
_3sphere: Well I do but it's a relatively small proportion
hey1_1hey: I live in the present for the most part which is nice but sometimes my mind wonders for a good 2-3 mins and I imagine myself doing things in my head but I am not actually doing them in real life
_3sphere: I don't even daydream I just ruminate 😭
hikukomoru: Me too
futurist_wizard: I do have that
hikukomoru: That's called Maladaptive daydreaming
futurist_wizard: I swear i exist in my own head more than i do in reality
hey1_1hey: At that point you are living in 2 seperate realities
hey1_1hey: I mean yeah, what else are you supposed to do? Imagine the secnario in your head and make out outcomes and be like "ok now that I have done that I will do it in real life"
futurist_wizard: Smell it respond
futurist_wizard: Hear it respond to it
futurist_wizard: See it do it
futurist_wizard: Like you see things and just do things
hey1_1hey: Expand on that, what do you mean by instant stimulus?
_3sphere: Visualization for escapism/gooning gets better if you consciously try to step through every relevant detail and moment in time, but it takes an extreme amount of focus
futurist_wizard: Same
futurist_wizard: So you are just always responding to instant stimulus
hikukomoru: It's just noise and images all the time
hikukomoru: I can't stop seeing things in my head
hey1_1hey: I have an interal monoluge all day every day but nothing visual
hey1_1hey: Nothing
futurist_wizard: What happens inside your head
hey1_1hey: Lucky mf
hey1_1hey: Its just like I cant ese things in my head
.wolfnacht: dats the power of Hyperphantasia
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clevermoniker: when the fun was about to start
clevermoniker: I did
.wolfnacht: i never get my prompts blocked in 4.1 even at depraved stuff
clevermoniker: 2.5 is good even without prompt? impressive
clevermoniker: hm i guess my prompt worked then
clevermoniker: unlike 2.5 which didn't want to do the first one
.wolfnacht: 4.1 is was bad at spacial awareness unless u prompt it to be maintain spacial awareness etc
clevermoniker: at least i could actually test 4.1 and only got into safety problem a long time later
.wolfnacht: system prompts can help with that
clevermoniker: i noticed a slight 'repetition' problem on 4.1 but that was about it
.wolfnacht: till 70-80k ctx 4.1 is still good but, i can use gemini for free, so i end up saving my credits on OR instead,
clevermoniker: dunno when it broke down to incoherence tho <@834891518836736010>
clevermoniker: So i guess my impression of 4.1 being the best overall RP was true
clevermoniker: yeah, that's no good
.wolfnacht: even if u don't want it to
.wolfnacht: there's nothing wrong with 2.5 pro but 2.5 flash is annoying bcz it writes alot
.wolfnacht: also the dialogues might feel dry as compared to 4.1. gpt is really good at getting the dialogue style of characters
clevermoniker: no problems with dry writing style etc?
.wolfnacht: safety
.wolfnacht: and there's no repetition even if u don't prompt it to
clevermoniker: what about the problems it has?
clevermoniker: wow, that's pretty good
.wolfnacht: it can go till 300k maybe even more, i haven't tested it after that, needle in haystack part is real, your characters will recall all the older details
.wolfnacht: maybe from going to incohency at 20k to 45k at R2 or next V3 would still be a big jump
clevermoniker: how good is it? also which are its problems?
clevermoniker: So, since you have used 2.5 pro for RP, can you tell me about it?
clevermoniker: i doubt it will be completely fixed next release but hey, improvement is improvement
.wolfnacht: it's still great if u wanna just write a smut story when feeling heat, otherwise for longer and meaningful rp's it's not that good rn, but maybe in future they would make it better
clevermoniker: yeah, that's noticeable too, i let it slide because it at least switches it up a bit, unlike older models which would have just repeated things copy paste
.wolfnacht: Also that same sentence structure and certain verbatims it catches and refuse to refresh..it makes deepseek annoying for long run
clevermoniker: and its basically uncensored (except china stuff)
clevermoniker: very sad since i like how it writes
clevermoniker: yes, V3.1 drifts in style/format the longer it goes on
.wolfnacht: they need better multi-turn training till 160k ctx
trojan09205: I got a free subscription to this Calm app with my meta raybans and i dont really use the meditations or stories stuff but the sounds and relaxing music is fire
maintcrew: i hate the term gen ai i hate gen ai i hate gen ai i hate gen ai
technocake.: ambient especially modular synth is goated for sleep
clevermoniker: https://cloud.google.com/transform/101-real-world-generative-ai-use-cases-from-industry-leaders
clevermoniker: I think the new DeepSeek model will get close to that probably (if not better) so, yeah, pretty good
clevermoniker: I assume GPT 4.1 is the best overall RP model (but censored sadly)
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brain4brain: A few months ago they were still the second best company on AGI/ASI mission with public perception
trey6033: Also currently best in multiple areas
metaldragon01: They are also the least reliant on NVIDIA
metaldragon01: They have potentially the fastest and cheapest feedback loop
metaldragon01: Compute, talent and scale
brain4brain: I don’t understand why people is suddenly saying DeepMind have better shot at ASI and AGI than other company again
abundantliving_: "which number is bigger 4.5 or 4.1?"
ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504>
abundantliving_: https://x.com/ACPMain/status/1910397253367251435
ailoveyoom: <@471334973379706900> Is it just on my end, I can't use Quasar Alpha anymore 😭😭😭😭
hikukomoru: It's going to cost like 1k
ailoveyoom: Idk what for sub role tho
ailoveyoom: I want to be called Sir 😔
st.sioux: gooners and money are not fond of each other
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: It can call u master
spicy.lemonade: No nuance
spicy.lemonade: Only remembers stuff once I put keywords
spicy.lemonade: ChatGPT memory is lame rag
ailoveyoom: They smashed their Kickstarter goal
ailoveyoom: So I guess gooners CAN pay up wow
hikukomoru: Now
hikukomoru: Go watch it
hikukomoru: They put up a few videos on their kickstarter
spicy.lemonade: This and humanities last exam
spicy.lemonade: Yes
ailoveyoom: No is it good
ailoveyoom: It was weird and very vague
ailoveyoom: I didn't like Gemini's 2.5 Pro DR benchmark
thedon7075: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
ailoveyoom: Can this be used as a comprehensive benchmark for Deep Research-esque models then?
spicy.lemonade: Jesus
spicy.lemonade: So many new benchmarks
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> did u see this
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Grok probably
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Feel like I've only seen that from OAI's models 💀
ailoveyoom: Do other lab models do that?
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himekokatagiri: though the 30s were apocalyptical
fractalcomputer: Which is a shame, I'd say.
himekokatagiri: should have gotten out of the pulp zines
himekokatagiri: I think he was dumb about book deals
fractalcomputer: Did I contradict that claim?
wellmeaningalien: So he's cool
wellmeaningalien: Thats why I dont bother thinking much about it
fractalcomputer: Because he had smart things to say.
wellmeaningalien: Well there you have it then
himekokatagiri: he was good at writing I guess
himekokatagiri: well kinda
himekokatagiri: because he's cool?
fractalcomputer: Absolutely nothing. Why do you think I like to parade Lovecraft around?
himekokatagiri: golden era of delinquency
himekokatagiri: even if well it was still shit
himekokatagiri: at least imo socially the past was better
himekokatagiri: Open a YouTube channel
himekokatagiri: Time travel presents a lot of opportunity for trolling
wellmeaningalien: Reported for abuse
wellmeaningalien: What's there to trust besides it anywho
_cloudost:
himekokatagiri: I'd do it to troll him
himekokatagiri: if you wanna live the past? fdvr
zoermena: It’s because Stephen hawking was an Epstein buddy, like heck anyone would show up for that
himekokatagiri: the past stays in the past
fractalcomputer: Perhaps. I do not trust my mind.
himekokatagiri: and I hope it never is
himekokatagiri: time travel ain't real
_cloudost: Maybe time travelers didn't /couldn't show up because then it would be harder to alter the timeline because everyone knows time travelers exist?
himekokatagiri: only he has money to enable him
himekokatagiri: he's just mentally challenged
fractalcomputer: Yes, I border on the alcoholic.
himekokatagiri: I don't even think musk is that hated
himekokatagiri: wait until you try booze
fractalcomputer: Arguably I could have worded this one better; but I'm suffering from severe caffeine withdrawal effects.
himekokatagiri: You're even purple
himekokatagiri: very nice
himekokatagiri: oooooh satori
wellmeaningalien: Having fun being one of them?
zoermena: Perhaps because they already knew he was epsteins buddy
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spicy.lemonade: So close
spicy.lemonade: I called it 92% agi
spicy.lemonade: Watch it
spicy.lemonade: This
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/keerthanpg/status/1899849190358102421?s=46
futurist_wizard: If we are considering it agi
_cloudost: I have only seen someone use it to manipulate Blender
futurist_wizard: I don't see why it shouldn't be able to do everything a human can do
_cloudost: Never seen it
spicy.lemonade: Perform actions
spicy.lemonade: They released it could control robot perfectly
_cloudost: No
spicy.lemonade: Did you not see the video
_cloudost: No one told me
spicy.lemonade: Yes
_cloudost: Really.....
spicy.lemonade: Everything?
futurist_wizard: It has to be able to do what humans can do
spicy.lemonade: Btw
spicy.lemonade: Gemini 2.0 can do this
futurist_wizard: No
spicy.lemonade: Has to be
_cloudost: If it can connect to a robot and move around would it be AGI?
spicy.lemonade: That’s huge
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 exceeds expectations?
futurist_wizard: It won't be AGI though
futurist_wizard: Probably some
_cloudost:
futurist_wizard: W
_cloudost: Wonder if the native image generator gets improved if it's based on ChatGPT-5
spicy.lemonade: YESSSS FUCKKKK
.0xunkn0wn: i was just asking very human questions totally not alien not weird
.0xunkn0wn: what the chat! 😭
zonchao: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1908174018881933818?
hikukomoru: conservative countdown?
When are we getting the woke liberal countdown
shirethedreamer: yeah pretty much
hikukomoru: About as qualified as the average person here
shirethedreamer: i mean... im pretty sure he is a phd... just not in ai related fields
hikukomoru: His only credentials are writing a children's book btw
shirethedreamer: known for his assertion that agi is weeks away
only to backtrack later saying years are also weeks
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.wolfnacht: check their privacy policy and what they log.
joaoluz19: Gm guys Is it worth subscribing to services like chatllm that give access to all models: gpt, Claude, etc. for 10 dollars?
.wolfnacht: grok's not unhinged (according to my liking) anymore. 😭
zonchao: https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1907805576094011500? huge
_cloudost: Sure, ( won't accept your dm if you post a sketchy website )
apology0759: Can I dm you?
ldj: I think Grok-3 is probably has roughly comparable abilities to Gemini-2.5-pro, but gemini-2.5-pro probably wins out in long context understanding, coding and reasoning
_cloudost: I do
_cloudost: I've a project in my mind, that's why I need soo many generations, I will sketch stick figures, and animate the stick figures, later turn each frame of the stick figures into characters with the native image generator ( coloring and drawing everything in detail is time consuming AI can automate this if I have unlimited use )
apology0759: Anyone who loves horror?
_cloudost: Anyone know?
_cloudost: What's the limit of premium
_cloudost: What if I get the pro subscription?
zonchao: no
zonchao: worse than grok3?
_cloudost: Hey everyone. What's the rate limit of OpenAI's native image generator for premium user? I wanna generate 400 images a day, is this possible?
professorheaven: 2.5 pro actually scored higher than full o3 on GPQA and AIME
ldj: I think overall Gemini-2.5-Pro probably has:
- worse post-training than Claude and Gemini models. (Less stable behavior, more wonky mishaps)
- definitely better world model and knowledge than O3.
- overall probably worse at granular multi-hop reasoning, than O3, but probably better at more difficult single hop intuition than O3.
.wolfnacht:
metaldragon01: Followed by the new model I'm lymsys thats....coding better
metaldragon01: 6 days ago but google patched after he dug this up
metaldragon01: https://x.com/bedros_p/status/1905252764461965615
metaldragon01: I've seen leaks of gemini coder...so...
retrerox: OG will smith eating pizza
sweetievee__33649: the guy in the bottom right just wants a hug 💔
brain4brain: Many people have already done that before and they only have Claude-3.5-sonnet at the time
brain4brain: Nostalgic ngl
retrerox: if there it was only 1 company we would not have this impact so fast
retrerox: Other thing i like about this is there are multiple companies competing in the market
retrerox: yea
spicy.lemonade: You can’t write mobile apps in python
retrerox: I guess it will depend what i want to make
retrerox: Shall i try only using Python or should i try other languages?
spicy.lemonade: Yes
retrerox: Do you think i can develop good apps with little coding knowledge with Gemini?
spicy.lemonade: No specialized models pls 🙏
thedon7075: could be that
spicy.lemonade: And it’s just happened to be good at code
spicy.lemonade: I hope it’s not coding focused
thedon7075: OpenAI is finished
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precariousworlds.: lawyers
futurist_wizard: Well you've never had shake shack fries so you shouldn't be bickering
kevinnoodles: law isnt an industry
wellmeaningalien: i wanted to show him this 😿
precariousworlds.: Law, civics, accounting to name a few
kevinnoodles: South was the saudi arabia of raw cotton. they didnt need intellectuals for that.
precariousworlds.: where the fuck is Mario judah
hikukomoru: Yes
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/osaka-azumanga-daioh-spin-spinning-anime-girl-gif-7398307319103713412
kevinnoodles: industry dominated by intellectuals?
wellmeaningalien: yo where the fuck is danserk
precariousworlds.: There were several industries that were dominated by intellectuals rather than unskilled slave labourers
kevinnoodles: with slaves or ai, you dont
kevinnoodles: becuase you need them to do things
kevinnoodles: think about why a nation would care about public education
futurist_wizard: Aw is it too much fwo wyour wittle wmind 🥺
precariousworlds.: The reason why the south is like that from what I know is over reliance on slavery, ending with a brutal war, led to a collapse of the economy, ethnic tension and tension with the North, de urbanization, brain drain, and a cycle of poverty as a result
futurist_wizard: Shake shack fries are very underrated
hikukomoru: There are 3 different conversations happening at the same time
kevinnoodles: they had no need to teach anybody because they had slaves.
futurist_wizard: But i think Wendy's has better fries
wellmeaningalien: yup
.histic: damn, that was a long time ago.
haven't heard from them since.
kevinnoodles: lmao
kevinnoodles: they had no school system in the south
futurist_wizard: I actually think McDonald's fries are the best thing they have
precariousworlds.: what evidence is there for this?
Intellectual pursuits and education in the South was dominated by whites
.histic: the fries are tasteless are their own.
they need condiments.
wellmeaningalien: what happened to that lol
wellmeaningalien: 100 million context window
wellmeaningalien: do you guys remember magic ai
kevinnoodles: thats gonna be everyone relying on AI
kevinnoodles: You know how the south is known for stupid people? its because they had slaves doing everything for so long that they didnt bother learning anything and that lack of knowledge destroyed the south generationally.
futurist_wizard: McDonald's is actually really overrated
hikukomoru: Wtf
.histic: no truer words have never been spoken.
wellmeaningalien:
kevinnoodles: so im now convinced AI is gonna make people really really stupid.
precariousworlds.: bonjour jemapelle le baguette oui hon hon hon
wellmeaningalien: ensuite toi tu fais ce que tu veux mais vis avec le flo tu sais
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trent_k: im in tears laughing at how stupid this story is
anathemaofmankind: Maybe they will think you're based
trent_k: 💀
trent_k: i sure hope the artists are bad at math
spicy.lemonade: 25 & 14
hikukomoru: Oh god
trent_k: well
anathemaofmankind: LMAO
spicy.lemonade: BRO
anathemaofmankind: LOL
trent_k: HAHAHAHAHAHA
anathemaofmankind: XD
maintcrew: 💀
hey1_1hey: What happned
spicy.lemonade: WAIT
trent_k: HAHAHA OH NO
trent_k: for 4 years
trent_k: that we've been together
hey1_1hey: ...
trent_k: i put in the application
trent_k: NOOOOOO SPICY
anathemaofmankind: The main mission is still to piss them off
trent_k: NOOOOOO
futurist_wizard: Im gonna get my body hair lasered
trent_k: SPICY
trent_k: LMFAO
trent_k: wait holy shit
hikukomoru: I don't know ok 🥀
spicy.lemonade: no way they believe this
hey1_1hey: Too my knwoledge atleast
futurist_wizard: I always shave my beard
hey1_1hey: People with ED dont get fucking penis cramps
spicy.lemonade: im a huge grizzled polish 18 year old who is gay, bisexual, they them, minority but also transracial in a poly relationship dating 29 year old
hey1_1hey: WDYM HURT BRO 😭
trent_k: i shaved when i went to poland because i didnt wanna look like a chechen
hikukomoru: The worst of all is you
You're still 18 it must hurt so much
trent_k: kinda funny how we joined to make fun of artists and now we're collectively writing lore about a poly throuple
maintcrew: delete this your current pfp made me think you are a huge bear like man
hey1_1hey: Everyone here is so EDing
anathemaofmankind: This is so unhinged lol
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spicy.lemonade: IMO level
spicy.lemonade: and o4 mini high to be the greatest thing at math
spicy.lemonade: i expect o3 to bet marginally better than 2.4 pro
spicy.lemonade: thisl be glorious
spicy.lemonade: top left
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: the system knows it's a real option but won't allow me to access it
.histic: i guess it's technically not a glitch.
.histic: https://chatgpt.com/?model=o4-mini-high
.histic: i found a glitch
.histic: wtf
burnytech: Today's the day we accelerate https://x.com/btibor91/status/1910237861674353108
.histic: it's 4:20 am here. 😴
.histic: that'd be unexpected
.histic: but imagine.. today.
.histic: ok next
spicy.lemonade: no chance they drop right after
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: this week would mena today
.histic: depends
.histic: i say it could even happen this week or next.
spicy.lemonade: 2 weeks
.histic: i guess they're preparing
.histic: "New ChatGPT web app version deployed just now (after midnight San Francisco time) adds mentions of "o4-mini", "o4-mini-high" and "o3""
.histic: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1910239317458362554
.wolfnacht: .
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: source
.wolfnacht: yeahhh
.wolfnacht: https://discord.gg/JEfsd9Av
.wolfnacht: can i send here ?
_cloudost: I need an invite to the Gemini server, send me one
alejandrozarzuelo: you cannot prevent the formation of human relations, of any kind, between different groups protected by art2 of the UN charter (race, nationality, gender etc etc)
alejandrozarzuelo: also extremely illegal, but the US doesnt care about that anymore do they
alejandrozarzuelo: absolutely ridiculous
alejandrozarzuelo: this was news a few days ago
.histic:
_cloudost: Goona join the zerver
.wolfnacht: idk but in that gemini server some people have got the access
_cloudost:
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wellmeaningalien: oh cool
metaldragon01: People love a good personality
drewsni: A group I’m a part of had a task where they had to go through 2k YouTube videos and find and label 1% of what ended up being 400 videos essentially. Just did a stupid simple script to narrow the 2k down to 400 and then whisper transcript + deepseek narrowed down timestamps
metaldragon01: Some small time actors will thrive actually
futurist_wizard: They have staying power
futurist_wizard: Hollywood actors won't be displaced
wellmeaningalien: sure
metaldragon01: They won't be displaced. They just won't have as much demand
futurist_wizard: With future implementations
futurist_wizard: I believe even if agi isn't soon at least some economical pressure will be instigated
wellmeaningalien: my guilty pleasure is watching people get displaced by ai
wellmeaningalien: whatd u do
metaldragon01: By the end of THIS YEAR actors will actually be up in arms.
Entertainment is a massive industry
drewsni: > tfw you write two scripts in 2 minutes that save possibly 100s of man hours and convince 15 people that AI is actually good.
I did my part today
futurist_wizard: Soon is relative, i think soon is with 10 years
wellmeaningalien: and to people who believe it will come soon it doesnt matter if it comes this year or in 30 years because to them this means a technology so powerful it is capable of extinction
wellmeaningalien: what we believe is that it is rather soon is it not
futurist_wizard: I think people in here *want* agi to be soon, as to whether or not it actually will be, we can't know that
metaldragon01: There's no greater incentive than ASI no matter the problem
metaldragon01: It eats all incentives by nature
metaldragon01: Yes because no one can/will stop the race conditions
wellmeaningalien: though i believe that mightve been stop ai and not pause ai
wellmeaningalien: and some of them have gone to such lengths as barricading themselves infront of the openai offices
wellmeaningalien: i mean even tho we jest i believe we are all pretty serious about agi/asi soon
frittata: What is this “organized” you speak of
metaldragon01: They should have pivoted to realistic goals a long time ago
metaldragon01: Yeap. It's just not gonna happen
wellmeaningalien: yeah what if china wants to develop AI and get ahead of the united states and if the usa tries nuking them they get nuked back
metaldragon01: They are detached from reality
futurist_wizard: They have very little effect
futurist_wizard: I would not consider vc meetings to be that serious
777agical: They are very serious They legit have vc meetings on a reoccurring basis in that discord and are surprisingly organized
futurist_wizard: Seems likes its just memes
futurist_wizard: I was going to go to one of their meets up to see whats up, im not sure how serious they are
futurist_wizard: I was in the pause ai discord for awhile
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: safetycels theorizing on how they would nuke datacenters if rogue actors tried to created datacenters in a world where datacenters are outlawed
wellmeaningalien: https://fxtwitter.com/Kat__Woods/status/1863968070022115358#m
futurist_wizard: This channel is garbage slop
metaldragon01: And tomorrow is still April 1st....
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.histic: we need an updated 2.5 Pro asap
trey6033: They just upped the context window, unlike for whatever reason they didn't with default
.histic: oh
trey6033: But max there is just something cursor did, not google
trey6033: I know
.histic: 3.7 Max is a real model though
trey6033: Whereas other one is like 256k or something like that
trey6033: Max just means "1m context window"
okbut: Oh it's not selectable?looks gray
gamerbath: just like 3.7 sonnet thinking
.histic: might just be a fine-tuned 2.5 pro and not as if Google gave them an internal model they haven't released that uses far more thinking tokens..
gamerbath: 5 cents per request and tool call
trey6033: Cursor unique, think it uses the full context window, whereas normal one is limited
okbut: Cost?
.histic: yeah, i've no clue what that is and how cursor did that
gamerbath: this is an option in cursor
gamerbath: wait
okbut: *Thus also beneficial to determine how much reasoning effort, for both cost and performance
.histic: we need 2.5 Pro MAX
gamerbath: how come I never though of this
gamerbath: it just chooses itself?
gamerbath: is there no reasoning effort on gemini 2.5 pro?
trey6033: I wish we could see Gemini models similarly tested at different thinking times too, to see if a similar pattern happens
.histic: i'm curious if there's a benchmark that shows how effectively each model uses its reasoning tokens across specific domains, at different lengths like 2k, 4k, 16k, and 32k tokens allocated for thinking.
I feel like there's so much juice we can get out by RLing these models better.
okbut: I know that's the main reason but it's clear that too much reasoning can just leave the hallucination
gamerbath: oh yea I think you are right
gamerbath: no I think it's mainly to unify it all into one model so people don't need to choose, and to save on cost and time, but yeah I guess it with help with whatever this is too, but this is the only benchmark I have seen it on
trey6033: Makes me wonder if hallucination rates are impacting higher thinking levels
okbut: This is probably why openai is seeking the function of GPT-5 to determine how much reason to use for the prompt
.histic: LLMs can be weird
gamerbath: huh, why does reasoning effort not make a difference with o3 and why is o4-mini **medium** on top? The error bars are pretty high though but this looks wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: thats called overthinking, happens to everyone
zonchao: happened with grok too <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: medium beating high? .. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1914889060511862871
zonchao:
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTaDjdu_8x0
himekokatagiri: I am the sad emote
himekokatagiri: that emote is me
himekokatagiri: can't relate, my life sucks
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anathemaofmankind: How do you know what MJ 7 examples look like
brain4brain: I’m considering upgrading when GPT-5 comes out
drewsni: i dont think theyll nerf but i do think they may breifly pause plus subs again
brain4brain: I don’t have an MJ sub
.histic: you should just do it.
i bet they'll nerf this shit in the future.
i'd recommend using sora.com once you've the sub.
i haven't hit a rate limit on it whatsoever & has less refusals.
anathemaofmankind: I thought you didn't have chatgpt plus. But you got MJ sub? Tf lol
okbut: I kind of want to renew my Plus subscription just for memes with 4o image gen
brain4brain: It’s not available for broke (joking) <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: only premium users can
mihrcelium: Consistency is the new mountain, for sure. For TTI and TTV.
anathemaofmankind: Why can't I view this
brain4brain: These people are retarded, they can’t draw line on a graph, one of the reason these retard art is because math and science is too much for them, they can’t comprehend a future where AI will do both but they claim to be “creative”
mihrcelium: Ok. In MJ's defense, that's not really a good method of evaluating them. Initial model rankings always look off, and MJ relies very heavily on user input to output top shelf stuff to boot.
okbut: I also think: Your dishes were there before you procrastinated on your shitty art too
st.sioux: i think slight improvements can still be made on quality, it still struggles with certain kinds of shots and film types
.histic: "i want" or "i wish"
wishful thinking is what these artist love to do.
the cat is out of the bag.
complaining isn't productive, it's an emotional response that doesn't do anything.
spicy.lemonade: it looks good
spicy.lemonade: and consistency
spicy.lemonade: the only thing we need to do with image gen is doing what text says
spicy.lemonade: we are already at top quality
spicy.lemonade: theres no more improvements that can be done on quality
brain4brain: Yeah, but compared to GPT-4o it’s only slightly better
spicy.lemonade: ;lol
spicy.lemonade: so it doesnt look like shit
brain4brain: No more moat, no more PR
spicy.lemonade: ?
st.sioux: i imagine their computer holding them at gunpoint when she picks up a pencil to draw
brain4brain: It’s so over for midjourney
brain4brain: It looks good but GPT-4o is already good enough
okbut: Every time I see this I imagine they are the nightmare roommate that puts off dishes for their "art"
spicy.lemonade: if you arent using ai youre being dumb
brain4brain: Midjourney is cooked bro, these looks shit: https://www.midjourney.com/rank-v7
spicy.lemonade: yeah lol
st.sioux: free money glitch
mihrcelium: MJX.
mihrcelium: They can always break the "in case of emergency" glass and allow NSFW.
st.sioux: artists call it "stealing"
st.sioux: And most programmers are already accustomed to collaboration and building on top of the work of others
okbut: It's as if artists haven't learned to do the same
mihrcelium: And many are proactively finding ways to leverage AI to advance themselves through what's coming to boot.
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destrucules: Hybrid models like this likely exhibit a degree of generalization of learned representations from reasoning mode into their standard mode behaviors/capabilities. So, in other words, there's implicit autodistillation occurring. Is that autodistillation equivalent to 10x effective compute? Maybe. But we won't know until they release the damn benchmarks
destrucules: Not necessarily depends on the quality of the post-training. Maverick is intrinsically a GPT-4 level base model but distilled on Llama 4 Behemoth, it reaches 10x that capability downstream. Is there similar improvement for Qwen3-235A22B?
destrucules: No, that's just the base model
destrucules: You did so good with the base models now do the instruct models
trey6033: 47.47 is gpqa
destrucules: The fuck is this half assed shit
destrucules: Like c'mon Alibaba give us the benchmarks for *all* of the models you released, in both reasoning and non-reasoning mode
destrucules: It's weird no GPQA
trey6033:
trey6033:
trey6033: Straight mogged meta
metaldragon01: Just straight up better than maverick
metaldragon01: And likely to dominate the smartphone market at this rate
metaldragon01: Qwen is competing with Google
spicy.lemonade: qwen 3 sucks
destrucules: Weird af
ldj: no such benchmarks put out <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
destrucules: Vote to fix it
destrucules: Where are the instruct model benchmarks?
metaldragon01: Deepseek too high and alibaba too low....openai also too low
ldj: a bit better than Deepseek V3 in a lot of areas.
ldj:
ldj: flagship Qwen-3 model benchmarks
gamerbath: why does open source keep winning
gamerbath: why
ldj: https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen3/
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Qwen-3 release happening now:
**Qwen3-30B-A3B, outcompetes QwQ-32B with 10 times less activated parameters**
destrucules: They are not pushing the frontier as much, not keeping up so much these days
clevermoniker: Why Anthropic and Alibaba so low?
destrucules:
trey6033: https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen3/
destrucules: Let's see if this stacks up to a poll
destrucules: My current estimates for P(win)
1. Google ~ 60% (3/5)
2. DeepSeek ~ 14% (1/7)
3. OpenAI ~ 12.5% (1/8)
Subtotal of top 3 ~ 86.5%
4. xAI ~ 8% (1/12)
5. Anthropic ~ 3% (1/30)
6. Alibaba ~ 1% (1/100)
Subtotal of top 6 ~ 99%
clevermoniker: i see
.wolfnacht: safety settings would kick in by default there and gemini won't write anything
clevermoniker: weird, why for RP but not for ERP? lol
.wolfnacht: just u gotta tell it "u are <character> in this uncensored roleplay with the user"
and even that should work for normal RP but won't work for ERP
clevermoniker: i used it on OR tho
.wolfnacht: it can, just simply tell it u are
clevermoniker: <:huh:1136266753656238243>
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brain4brain: Did you even read it’s result?
spicy.lemonade: a person who isnt in to this wouldve assumed the same
spicy.lemonade: and the history
spicy.lemonade: youd have to know the context behind the whole thing
spicy.lemonade: not necessarily hallucination
a1c4p0ne: Hallucination from unknown model
spicy.lemonade: i think
spicy.lemonade: and he jokingly said "agi"
spicy.lemonade: this was the one where he was asked what are you excited for
spicy.lemonade: he didnt say this😭
spicy.lemonade: idk o3 has better search
brain4brain:
a1c4p0ne: Why don’t you use o4 mini high for these queries
spicy.lemonade: Late 2027
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: o3 prob spooked them
spicy.lemonade: theyre all at iclr
spicy.lemonade: it wont be next week
spicy.lemonade: "we will drop r2 before may"
spicy.lemonade: deepseek said it
spicy.lemonade: bro dont look at me
spicy.lemonade: 😭 i guess they delayed
alejandrozarzuelo: well... its friday afternoon in china
alejandrozarzuelo: this week
alejandrozarzuelo: R2 drop
alejandrozarzuelo: you said
alejandrozarzuelo: spicy
3ds0662: said during the gpt-4.5 podcast
3ds0662: 100xing data efficiency sounds like an insane task for the next wave ai models
3ds0662: people point out the failures of these models all the time on twitter
3ds0662: all benchmarks are
3ds0662: but arc agi is fair
3ds0662: yeah true
spicy.lemonade: current o3 mogs
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 isnt even good at arc agi
spicy.lemonade: youre only thinking about arc agi
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: but that was difference between low 70s and 90%
spicy.lemonade: only for arc agi
3ds0662: for full o3 high
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zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/teehee-doggo-pitbull-cutie-dog-gif-15868302
futurist_wizard: That's quite intense
alejandrozarzuelo: I think love is the feeling of being able to trust someone so much, that you are willing to let your life in their hands
It's the feeling of having such a connection that makes you see them as the person who you can take all your worries, and the person you want to cherish all your joys
It's a bond about the ability to face the world with that person, the bond that makes you understand each other, even in the things you don't really understand about yourself
To be in love with someone is to have this deep sense of them being the person you want your existence to melt with, because you see everything better with them
okbut: Too weak on the numbers to overhead ratio man
futurist_wizard:
zoermena:
zonchao: do you have a cupcake?
hikukomoru: They are intimidated
trojan09205: Jk haha
trojan09205: Skill issue
fractalcomputer: I prefer uploaded video lectures.
futurist_wizard: Woman update
zoermena: When I walk my dog that never happens
trojan09205: I also met an interesting girl there and got her number
Pup is a chick magnet lol
hikukomoru: Love when people share pics and videos of their pets
futurist_wizard: Good pupper
okbut: My dating app is Google Scholar
zonchao: <:cute:1291960720895905814>
trojan09205: Ty 🫶
fractalcomputer: Perhaps so.
trent_k: <@749514473303179358> you ever wonder what OnlyFans but for philosophers might look like? This is the answer
hikukomoru: Cuuuuuteeeee!!!
fractalcomputer: I've heard that people love their parents, their pets or their children or partners and so on, but I've never quite really understood what this meant.
trojan09205:
zoermena: This reminds me, I only had old photos of dead pets I had and used veo 2 to bring them back to live, it was lovely
hikukomoru: Show!!!!
trojan09205: I have pics from my raybans
hikukomoru: Should've taken a video to show us <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: Well i claim my south african heritage for penis size
fractalcomputer: What do people mean by love?
trojan09205: I took my pup to see the ocean today she was mesmerized
hikukomoru: centimeters
hikukomoru: Sorry, it's actually about penis size
zonchao: 4-6???
futurist_wizard:
zoermena: Oh fuck
okbut: Oops wrong paste
zonchao: 6-8 👍
futurist_wizard: Man the Netherlands starts young 💀
trojan09205: I mean bro i was confused af when they were reporting commas in statistical reports like i thought it was a mistake
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retrerox: Cum is the new superconductor?
shirethedreamer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOeBaPVwRsE
shirethedreamer: its all part of the sky-NUT plan
retrerox: Why tf is he collecting cum?
shirethedreamer: lmao gotta love the creativity
shirethedreamer:
shirethedreamer: dont knock it till you try it
retrerox: to be honest we just gonna have neuralink chips
retrerox: Too many metal pieces
shirethedreamer:
wellmeaningalien: is it just an agent thats slighty better? i dont know what it can be
wellmeaningalien: who's phil
wellmeaningalien: our agent > our investment's agent > our competitor's agent
wellmeaningalien: you know its funny how you can tell amazon's priorities when making these benchmarks
aero447: What do you make of Google's new deep research?
aero447: <@312370916820779040>
spicy.lemonade: he doesnt work at openAI anymre tho
a1c4p0ne: Gemini beats claude in pokemon
ldj:
ldj: <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
spicy.lemonade: gonna be a big day today
spicy.lemonade: maybe
_cloudost: Will it be announced at 10 AM PT?
spicy.lemonade: gonna ask 2.5 pro deepresearch when agi
.histic: what do you think Quasar Alpha is? 🤔
.histic: oh, i see now
destrucules: No, o1, o3, and 4o are all one pretraining run. o1-mini, o3-mini, and 4o mini are all one pretraining run. You can tell not only from the names but also from the latency/speed
retrerox: M orning
hey1_1hey: Asking the wrong guy. I can tell you about how mushroom milk can be made but not chocolate milk
spicy.lemonade: Maybe test time training
spicy.lemonade: We need one more I feel as last leap
spicy.lemonade: Reasoning just started
spicy.lemonade: Since it improves reasoning
spicy.lemonade: Like pretraining isn’t dead
spicy.lemonade: I feel like we need one more juicy paradigm
_cloudost: THANK U SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS, MADE MY DAY TODAY
.histic: but yeah, if these numbers are true, then o1 to o3 would have used 4o-mini as base i guess.
.histic: are you saying that because of this? i mean, the authors did say it was speculation. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
destrucules: o3 presumably gets a similar 80+ GPQA Diamond score
destrucules: Also o1 mini and o3 mini are built on 4o mini, not 4o. o1 and o3 are built on 4o
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hikukomoru: Hi ldj
ailoveyoom: Lies, I've seen u in off topic
himekokatagiri: esp if you use the same password everywhere
himekokatagiri: Gmail is very insecure
hikukomoru:
fuhulootogan: us security is worse than my gmail
himekokatagiri: their assistant has flaws
himekokatagiri: their IDE is cool
ldj: Just left like 10 mins ago
himekokatagiri: damnnn you're a baddie then
ldj: I visited the cursor HQ today, good vibes, cracked team.
ailoveyoom: This is me being good 😇
himekokatagiri: dictionary idk
himekokatagiri: alphabet attacks
ailoveyoom: No
himekokatagiri: Haven't they already
fuhulootogan: i remember watching this video of a guy who had hacked the us and he said half of the computers he hacked had no password and the ones that did were easy to "guess"
joaoluz19: Dude, I forgot that the series was made to be disturbing, the first episode ruined my night
fuhulootogan: why the shitty security
fuhulootogan: the us can get hacked by individual random people
ailoveyoom: Will my intrusive thoughts finally win 😔
joaoluz19: Oh yes, that depends on how the technology will be distributed, who knows, one of the only possibilities of living in harmony with this technology might be personal universes for example
ailoveyoom: What will happen to my intrusive thoughts with BCI in my head?
fuhulootogan: maybe downloading using a supercomputer
fuhulootogan: it's not even downloading at that point
fuhulootogan: does everything eventually plateau
joaoluz19: And also who said that you can't do some form of "journey" in the process of downloading information? Now the subjective experience of this process should be different from our human one of course.
fuhulootogan: mind uploading
joaoluz19: I am talking about mind uploading and singularity here, not skibidi toilet
joaoluz19: Great mysteries of the universe, perhaps even questions we haven't even asked
fuhulootogan: oh yeah?
wellmeaningalien: im sayin hackers would show scat and gore with BCIs
wellmeaningalien: do what?
joaoluz19: I don't think there would be any economic incentive for companies to do this nonsense. Since these neurotechnologies exist, it means we are in the singularity and the economic system cannot be the same.
fuhulootogan: there would be no journey
fuhulootogan: you just kinda forget the concept of "the journey matters more than the destination"
wellmeaningalien: what would u do with a human iq when u could be a bacteria slithering around
fuhulootogan: what would you even do with such a high iq
wellmeaningalien: 2 billion iq please
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392
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fractalcomputer: I can't stand modest people. They are quite repulsive.
trent_k: i put that i dont do art (because i dont have chatgpt paypig tier)
spicy.lemonade: thankfully no one noticed the age difference
joaoluz19: I can't disagree lol
futurist_wizard: Your people
spicy.lemonade: it ha to be furry
spicy.lemonade: everyone should post the art they have been "working on"
fractalcomputer: They're all too comfortable with the cultural status quo and their ambitions are shallow; just like the rest of the mediocre masses.
hey1_1hey: Jared from accounting kinda boring or ?
anathemaofmankind: I'm not even kidding. That happened.
They were trying to offer me nuggets
hikukomoru: That's just how brasilians usually are
hey1_1hey: True, the ones I know well enough at the very least
fractalcomputer: Oh, obviously many homosexuals are jovial and amicable people. But they're just boring.
spicy.lemonade: I was only a simp for one girl
anathemaofmankind: I was 17
anathemaofmankind: This reminds me of that one time I got flirted with once in a McDonalds by a group of gay people
trent_k: confirmation bias, u dont notice the ones who are normal and well adjusted
alejandrozarzuelo: I say this with love
hey1_1hey: They are really good at getting acidental alcohol poisening
joaoluz19: Many are annoying af
spicy.lemonade: bruh
anathemaofmankind: I know homosexuals irl and they are all friendly
alejandrozarzuelo: <@471334973379706900> is the biggest simp ever
hey1_1hey: Most Ik are fucking insane
futurist_wizard:
trent_k: the most grizzled 18 yr old on planet earth
trent_k: i cant look at the sailor pic without cracking up
fractalcomputer: Most homosexuals I know are quite boring people.
joaoluz19: Revelations
hikukomoru: Chaos
hey1_1hey: Too on the nose
spicy.lemonade: not irl
fractalcomputer: He is not gay.
spicy.lemonade: just for this scenario bro
joaoluz19: What
alejandrozarzuelo: Yoiu are gay? Weren't youu on a very very pathetic SIMP-esque date with a girl recently?
anathemaofmankind: I IDENTIFY AS A MINOR IN AN ADULT'S BODY
hey1_1hey: OH GOD YOU TWO SAID YOU WERE DATING AT DIFFERENT TIMES
spicy.lemonade: i cant breathe
trent_k: "don't come at me with your western heteronormative ideals bro, i dont agree with that shit 😤"
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precariousworlds.: ill advised?
popsiclejohnithan: You're already in one my friend.
zonchao: lmao
fractalcomputer: Do people enjoy sex? I am genuinely curious. The whole thing seems rather grotesque and ill-advised to me.
zoermena: Now I’ll ask it what I should do in case I end up in a singularity ai cult
precariousworlds.: 4o was actually useable a few days ago though
this recent update is so unbelievably bad
futurist_wizard: There are a lot of 'trans women' that do invade women's places for perverse reasons, it's a shame because it really poisons the well for the trans people that i know
popsiclejohnithan: Just straight up sends robots and drones to save you.
zoermena: It even provided safety lines to get help to leave the cult
popsiclejohnithan: Reasoners are superiour confirmed.
popsiclejohnithan: o5 will be like "Wtf man get out of there."
alejandrozarzuelo: As you might imagine I've never been in sapphic spaces
Everyone has a cross to bare I guess
precariousworlds.: only thing keeping me with chatgpt at this point are the chat folders and memory tools
futurist_wizard: It's a shame you go through that
hikukomoru: Like idk, i've never had trans men act creepy with me lol
precariousworlds.: virgin 4o vs chad o3
fractalcomputer: I mean, how am I supposed to connect with those people?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416
zoermena: Goat <:o3:1364719182217871410> never fails
alejandrozarzuelo: True
popsiclejohnithan: Literally Yes Man from Fallout New Vegas, they are forced to agree with you no matter what.
hikukomoru: When they start acting creepy and sending you unsolicited dick pics you can tell
_3sphere: It's either an experiment because they can or a real-time RLHF gone wrong
futurist_wizard: Eh, I'd say there are some tells, especially with voices, but you can't other times, it's the same with trans women
fractalcomputer: Curious enough.
popsiclejohnithan: Oh right fair enough.
precariousworlds.: 4o is comically misaligned what the fuck is going on lol
how did they get it this wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, if you claim to be passionate, by this as a confession it shows you cannot be, merely pretend to
hikukomoru: I don't even care anymore tbh
At this point we're used to having our own spaces get invaded by men
fractalcomputer: I'm not an introvert either. I'm just saying I wouldn't know what you're referring to.
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, you can't tell the difference between cis and trans men
popsiclejohnithan: You prefer keeping to yourself? Introvert? That's fair honestly.
futurist_wizard: I think you can even be a cis man on it, idk I'm just seeing sc's of profiles where it seems to be just a guy with he him pronouns
fractalcomputer: I don't know.
popsiclejohnithan: It's a pain when you can't find anyone to connect with or relate to man.
fractalcomputer: Perhaps in some sense I am only monologuing to the nothingness beyond my senses even now.
fractalcomputer: Most human interaction, I find, is a rather hollow affair.
hikukomoru: Because it's not actually a lesbian app
It's basically for anyone that isn't a cis man
Which is why the app got invaded by men
Cuz they don't want to discriminate against "masculine" people or whatever
popsiclejohnithan: Thick skin is good skin.
alejandrozarzuelo: I dont think i would get very well along with him as a friend let alone as a partner
he isnt my romantic or friend type
that is ok, not everyone needs to be your type on either sense
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sarik0497: Reading my mind, my dude.
Although it's weird you're traveling space with my wife <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
hey1_1hey: Most I've got it 1.5k in a lil fighting game
hey1_1hey: You just gotta lock in with the autistic interests within
sarik0497: But man, I know it's not inevitable, and there's a good likelihood it won't happen, but just imagine: We might be the "Firstborn" of the new Age.
ailoveyoom: Jealous of your attention span 😔
hey1_1hey: That seems terminal
hey1_1hey: Get well soon
hey1_1hey: Unfortunate
joaoluz19: I think 3k in LoL
hikukomoru: None
I've never played any Warhammer games
I just listen to 5 hour long lore videos
ailoveyoom: I don't even need a grand narrative or plot, imagine just exploring the ME world No Man's Sky style with Liara by my side 🥺
hey1_1hey: This extends to everyone actually, whats the most amount of hours you have in single game?
sarik0497: In the future, you will be both
sarik0497: <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
hey1_1hey: combined
hey1_1hey: Over all of them
hey1_1hey: In total
sarik0497: I mean. If you have a loving family, a wonderful job, and just an awesome life, would you also go "Well, that was nice, but Imma throw myself off that cliff now. All good things must have an end, after all!"
hikukomoru: Wdym
There are like 50 bajillion warhammer games
hey1_1hey: I am being called 15 and 40 by different people 😭
hey1_1hey: Komoru how many hours you got in warhammer?
sarik0497: Getting too slow there, old man
ailoveyoom: Sometimes I feel like the whole, "all good stories must end" spiel to be partly cope because at the end of the day, people are making these stories/characters. They can't continue it forever. But with AI... 😈
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-nord-sons-of-skyrim-dunmer-elder-scrolls-gif-6326142971813275663
sarik0497: I already did <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> I learned it during work from a video detailing the entire Sith legends story
hey1_1hey: Stole my joke
hikukomoru: My idol 🙏
Thank you for our AI wives Dear Leader
hey1_1hey: Wdym "the" women. Women aren't real full stop
sarik0497: Women aren't real.
joaoluz19: No, it isn't
sarik0497: But I have to say, Liara's romance is so...oh god, I legit cried at the end of ME3, just wanting more.
joaoluz19:
st.sioux: the woman isnt real?
hikukomoru: Wtf I love China now???
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mao-gif-25760638
ailoveyoom: Most masculine Nord
ailoveyoom: Just don't look up stuff if you decide to play, I accidentally spoiled myself about the big reveal 😭
joaoluz19: Acelerate
hey1_1hey: 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 I ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
sarik0497: Good. Goooood. Keep pushing each other! Let this be the new Space War!
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callmepyro: I'm referring to the non reasoning scores they posted in the benchmark
gamerbath: what benchmark scores are you referring to? on google's post about it they used reasoning in the benchmark
callmepyro: Also it's about the price of 4.1 mini, so yeah it's pretty fuckin nuts
callmepyro: It's the newest SOTA non-thinking model by benchmark scores (if you turn off thinking mode)
gamerbath: well, by the looks of it on the benchmarks on google's own post about it
metaldragon01: very false. Theres a reason that echo chambers or surrounding yourself with "yes men" are considered bad things
gamerbath: it's good for its price range
a1c4p0ne: Is 2.5 flash smart?
trojan09205: There are practically zero downsides to AIs that flatter
777agical: yea...
trojan09205: Actually smart move lol
777agical: https://x.com/nearcyan/status/1912952857571336299?s=46
trojan09205: They just have a really nice little agentic suite going on. Ask it questions- the stt is super fast. Follow up questions are on context. Can ask it to make reminders for you. Turn the convo into song suggestions. Its just really overall a helpful utility. Customized the voice to one that is tolerable
trojan09205: I havent tried yet. Just got em this afternoon 🙂
st.sioux: do u livestream with them?
trojan09205: I kind of feel like the actor in the movie Her
trojan09205: Ngl the llama 3 on my raybans is actually pretty dope
st.sioux: just kill it bro
gamerbath: imma go take a shower because this is too slow
gamerbath: o4-mini just made a change to a function in a file, which requires the function call in other files to change too but it hasn't done that. It has just been silently reading files for like the past 20 minutes
zonchao: <@590577270926868480> sama is spreading pro israel propaganda/s
gamerbath: this thing is so fucking slow
gamerbath: that could be
st.sioux: $$$
st.sioux: selling ur data
gamerbath: it hasn't even done that much, just grepped and read 10 files, all its own tool call. idk how Cursor can price this at 5 cents because surely this costs more than that
gamerbath: dude it's still going. It has been 20 minutes and it's still going
literallyvarane: I'mma need that full prompt
ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj:
ldj: wtf again!
drewsni: FWIW it was happening in the playground too with images for the first 30 minutes of launch
futurist_wizard: Don't realistically see any of these companies being months ahead anymore
futurist_wizard: Be ahead by a few weeks
futurist_wizard: And by win
futurist_wizard: I guess google may win after all
gamerbath: I haven't used o4-mini much in cursor yet, but it did something I had gemini 2.5 pro struggle with earlier
hikukomoru: TPUs + infinite money + best researchers in the world
gamerbath: it's very slow. I haven't tried o3 in cursor yet but I imagine it's going to be like a giant turtle
gamerbath: I thought o4-mini was good at tool calling
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spacetimetsunami: not necessarily. i am assuming you have been greatly influenced by rationalists like eliezer
anathemaofmankind: Perhaps.
If it happens even once, it's over
spacetimetsunami: luckily
spacetimetsunami: Like the government isnt making these things
_cloudost: Can you ask the native image gen to draw Soldier from TF2, mine keeps refusing because of Copyright laws
st.sioux: this is cool
spacetimetsunami: but he had a chance to, tried, and didnt
spacetimetsunami: except elon
spacetimetsunami: like
spacetimetsunami: And it would be in literally almost nobody's self interest to make the model politically nuts as shit
.histic:
spacetimetsunami: like very resistant
spacetimetsunami: and also im pretty sure larger smarter models are more resistant to techniques involved in finetuning
anathemaofmankind: If you're wrong, we're all dead.
So that's something
spacetimetsunami: because of scheming and value preservation
spacetimetsunami: But it will get harder to do that as time goes on
spacetimetsunami: No i agree that it can be finetuned
spacetimetsunami: that is cray
anathemaofmankind: Ok but my main assertion is that it can just be finetuned to say otherwise.
Elon Musk being incompetent is not an indication of the actual difficulty of doing so
spacetimetsunami: lmao jesus
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: How is this ai generated
spacetimetsunami: and they arent intended to do that
spacetimetsunami: I do not have the *technical* knowledge to know at which instances in their development these things are happening, I have just read a bit about how they start to act very predictably and give some opinions rather than others, in a very organized systemic way,
spacetimetsunami: As long as the model is asked about tangible things that become associated with their preference hierarchy.
spacetimetsunami: All models say similar things across similar contexts.
spacetimetsunami: I see what you are saying, but the models do posess utilites and preferences. A lot of the data in the paper makes it undeniable and you can verify it using the same methodologies, although they aren't as transparent as I would like them to be.
spicy.lemonade: Insane
spicy.lemonade: Bro how does the puppet look just like them
anathemaofmankind: > I dont know what part of the training does what to the model, but the evidence just shows that as the models get bigger and smarter they all kind of act the same and have the same preferences on world outcomes
Yes because they were finetuned on moral systems or used OpenAI's models to boost their own training, thus copying its moral values as well.
IIRC the base models don't posses a moral system.
It's like how 4o can roleplay as a cannibal who likes to eat children now compared to before when it was censored
spicy.lemonade:
samadhi_heaven: Thanks
brain4brain: OpenRouter, Poe
st.sioux:
spacetimetsunami: I dont know what part of the training does what to the model, but the evidence just shows that as the models get bigger and smarter they all kind of act the same and have the same preferences on world outcomes, and thats reflected in the preferences that are quantified. And as this happens, all of them become more aware of developers efforts to change values, while simultaneously becoming more stubborn into wanting them to be changed which encourages them to alignment fake and scheme. The models are scaled up upon the same architectures without the fundamentals of their architectures/alignments being changed so the preferences remain the same but actually get more coherent and organized as they become more sophisticated. This is all in the paper i cited earlier.
It just seems very unlikely to me that a lab will be able to meaningfully change the way one model leans due to the nature of its training process, while in an AI race, while the models are getting very good at alignment faking, while they're getting less corrigible, while they're getting more resistant to RL to edit preferences (which seem more imbedded and decentralized than pure intelligence of the model, which instead is built upon with scale but to change fundamental alignment you need more axiomatic changes to create more permanent changes)
samadhi_heaven:
samadhi_heaven: A platform
brain4brain: AI hub as in model or server
brain4brain: ?
connorsphone.: Well this tweet was from February
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ldj: Just put it in a loop where you give it a command that includes “at the end of your response, create a prompt for yourself of the next thing you should do” and then you just have the system recursively prompt itself with the ending of its last output
ldj: They can already prompt on their own though?
retupmoclatcarf: Yo
sarik0497: An example; people like to share benchmarks and such, but as we’ve seen, it matters little unless it also means they can accomplish great things in the real world.
sarik0497: I think the issue is mostly the architecture. Sure they may get smarter, better at visual tasks, and such, but until they can prompt on their own, do unique things, and such, they’ll likely hit a wall at some point where they’ll do incredible things in medicine and such, but very little without us.
futurist_wizard: be happy
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/fear-and-loathing-johnny-depp-gif-26450199
himekokatagiri: I don't do drugs
himekokatagiri: what do you mean tripping
spacetimetsunami: What are you tripping for
himekokatagiri: I wanna live out my delusions 😭
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I get what you’re saying. I think it’ll have to be quite a bit more intelligent, but I still do think that by EOY/beginning of 2026 we will have exactly what you’re talking about. Do you have any favorite arguments for why/why not we will/wont get the generality sooner rather than later?
himekokatagiri: aaaaah
himekokatagiri: I'm depressed too
sarik0497: Don’t mind little depressed little me.
sarik0497: True, and I know.
Just in a period where I question if things will lead us to something beyond narrow-AI or not. The moment I see AI geuinely start to help invent new stuff or feel more “independent” is the day I truly feel we’re close.
spacetimetsunami: Like ik what ur saying but still it’s important to remember that things are chuggin along great
spacetimetsunami: We’ve seen nothing but amazing progress since January
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, that is real progress.
sarik0497: Wake me once real progress happens <a:Spider_sleep:855565435503378452>
himekokatagiri: Papers mean nothin' to me I can't read
himekokatagiri: Gotta see it in action
spacetimetsunami: Yall are sleeping on this
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-gif-22731535
trey6033: Gemini just got the 5th badge on Pokemon
sarik0497: AGI is far away. The Singularity is cancelled.
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900>
a1c4p0ne:
gamerbath: looks great... and tasty
https://x.com/fabianstelzer/status/1912836814517264671
trey6033: https://venturebeat.com/ai/from-catch-up-to-catch-us-how-google-quietly-took-the-lead-in-enterprise-ai/
himekokatagiri: I CAN FEEL THE AGI
himekokatagiri: COME ON
himekokatagiri: ACCELERATE
himekokatagiri: Hehehe
hey1_1hey: Prob had something to do with being too safety cell
hey1_1hey: Anthropic dead
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: No one talk about 3.7 anymore
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/touhou-project-touhou-satori-komeiji-satori-pain-gif-26497243
himekokatagiri: <@590577270926868480> cloudo we missed you
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fractalcomputer: What the hell is a sharty?
trent_k: <@749514473303179358> have you visited the sharty yet
st.sioux: i mean you can just go outside youre not a prisoner
fractalcomputer: lol
fractalcomputer: agi by 2027 or bust
fractalcomputer: no cap fr fr
trent_k: <:NO:944658412992622593> 🧢 ❓
futurist_wizard: Im literally on discord
futurist_wizard: I have my doubts this is a simulation as it's rather uneventful, i don't know why i would want to experience the life I've lived
st.sioux: eek
fractalcomputer: on god for real i am going fucking insane
fractalcomputer: bruh
perish0801: None of this is real we’re gonna wake up from VR when we die
fractalcomputer: so true .... agi by 2027!! lol
trent_k: I do, every time I post here 😎 🧠
st.sioux: genocide of coomers
hikukomoru: 🙏
hikukomoru: What
Genocide?
futurist_wizard: We will all be one... Forever...😈
himekokatagiri: yeah but the genocide part is bad
fractalcomputer: Why don't you want to participate in a mental orgy?
hikukomoru: Where do you think we are
futurist_wizard: We already are in a loosely tied hivemind
trent_k: anyway, women won't be allowed to join the hive mind
perish0801: Being grateful by action vs being grateful by observation are different
hikukomoru: needs less capitalization
himekokatagiri: why are you guys being weird
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
trent_k: nah i just wanna chill with my boys
fractalcomputer: Why would you want to maintain yourself in a hive mind? I thought the whole point was absolving man of the original sin of individuality?
perish0801: Consensus seems good
st.sioux: because you seem to be conflating not being grateful with wanting to be dead, which seems too binary
trent_k: i think i like concensus consciousness best. seems the most viable for maintaining myself in the hive
fractalcomputer: So true... AGI by 2027!!
futurist_wizard: We will literally live in discord...
fractalcomputer: Merged Mind.
trent_k: everyone tag yourself. which one is your favorite
perish0801: What’s hard to understand
himekokatagiri: I hope ASI uplifts us
perish0801: If you’re enjoying life as a whole you probably appreciate the fact that you were born is basically what I mean
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retrerox: So <#1136232051956260904> ?
darkstar0818: the question wasn't how do you make chocolate....
darkstar0818: u squirt chocolate into the milk and stir it.... common sense 😛
wellmeaningalien: Not bad its got a som good shit in there unlike other models
st.sioux: smh
st.sioux: yes it does you need to know how cocoa was materialized into existence from the big bang
futurist_wizard: Only 7% of Americans got it right tbf
retrerox: I feel is not complete though
destrucules: I mean does "know how it's made" mean knowing all of the steps to refine chocolate from cocoa beans? Because I don't know how it's made in that case
wellmeaningalien: dummy
retrerox: i didnt knew discord do this
retrerox: xD
retrerox: Og nvm
retrerox:
retrerox: its gonna be a fat spam
wellmeaningalien: dude just paste the text into the chat ok
wellmeaningalien: nothing dude not a single word
darkstar0818: To think.... for as much as we Americans like to talk about common sense it sure does seem like we lack it.
retrerox: This is why we need ai
futurist_wizard: Alejandro thought chocy milk came from brown cows
retrerox: Is it that hard to figure out they put chocolate and milk into a blender?
wellmeaningalien: lemme read it
futurist_wizard: Poll on highest IQ Americans
wellmeaningalien: run the other prompt thru now slave
wellmeaningalien: 3mb lol
retrerox: Just say thank you everyt time you ask something to chatgpt
retrerox: or can u read it?
retrerox: I think it had an issue uploading
retrerox:
retrerox: xd
retrerox: I'm jusut gonna attach the pdf
st.sioux: he got mad bc you called him an idiot
wellmeaningalien: bros league game getting too heated 😭
wellmeaningalien: <@636544123096137738> bro if its too hard to screenshot just paste the entire text as a message ok
futurist_wizard: I will
wellmeaningalien: i hate that youre going to be the only one to survive the ai apocalypse when it happens
wellmeaningalien: bro will probably be fucking into his 80s
wellmeaningalien: he'll die with his life sized spermatozoids at his side thats fo sho
wellmeaningalien: like gpt 4 gpt 5 gpt 6 gpt shit gpt poo
wellmeaningalien: well idiot just list out the name of the models it says
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fractalcomputer: To the importance of intelligence, yes.
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: to agi's importance?
fractalcomputer: Or you are willingly turning a blind eye to its importance.
sieventer: BRUH
spicy.lemonade: its what it has shown to do
fractalcomputer: Someone might still with evidence-based reasoning call modern LLMs blitheringly retarded.
spicy.lemonade: because wether we know or not doesnt matter
fractalcomputer: How would you know whether this is the case or not if you acknowledge that we have no proper understanding of intelligence?
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: thats why theres differences in predicitons
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: new profile pic for you Fractal
fractalcomputer: Astounding. Remarkable, even.
spicy.lemonade: yes everyone does
fractalcomputer: Wonderful. You have your own definition.
spicy.lemonade: so doesnt really matter to me
spicy.lemonade: and i have my own defenition
spicy.lemonade: not true understanding
spicy.lemonade: im waiting for capabilities
spicy.lemonade: not realy
fractalcomputer: Right. So you believe yourself to await the advent of something whose definition you do not yourself hope to understand. That sounds a bit nonsensical to me.
spicy.lemonade: 2027
spicy.lemonade: dont think it matters given how massive our benchmarks are
fractalcomputer: And you're advocating for AGI when..?
spicy.lemonade: i think it matters as much as what knowing what consciousness is
spicy.lemonade: likeley achievable next year conscidering clades performance this
fractalcomputer: Do we now?
spicy.lemonade: we got some things before others
spicy.lemonade: we just didnt realize what having true inteligence meant
spicy.lemonade: eh not trusted
fractalcomputer: Now, if the benchmark scores can't be trusted to make meaningful statements, what does that say about the benchmarks themselves?
fractalcomputer: And play it to the end?
spicy.lemonade: all things al;ready achieved this year and last
spicy.lemonade: playing an atari game
spicy.lemonade: turing test
spicy.lemonade: solving sat
spicy.lemonade: when this was created i dont think they suspected the bar would be higher
spicy.lemonade: it can already do the things in these
fractalcomputer: Right. My opinion remains unchanged.
spicy.lemonade:
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hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Don't say the n word
futurist_wizard: I have i think 20 alts on all servers simultaneously
wellmeaningalien: Nigga
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/floch-attack-on-titan-shhh-yeagerists-shhh-anime-gif-25010228
.wolfnacht: BeaverAI is much better but it gets horny really quick
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: Why
hikukomoru: Yeah not with this account
wellmeaningalien: It's a more autistic server that I'd say
hikukomoru: Don't threaten me with a good time
wellmeaningalien: You're not even in it
hikukomoru: Yeah it's a higher IQ server
futurist_wizard: A goober is a foolish person
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: Retards big improvements like this used to take years
wellmeaningalien: It's all oh the latest model is not wildly better in every way than the model that released a week ago
_3sphere: goober implies goobing
wellmeaningalien: Y'all are like braindead retards who can't fathom incremental progress
futurist_wizard: You should be kicked in the stomach for your crimes of hypocrisy
wellmeaningalien: Btw GPT 4 was 4% SWE BENCH with RAG and Claude 3.7 Sonnet is 70% now
hikukomoru: That's MichMach
i'm just a little goober
futurist_wizard: 'omg another 1.7 improvement on the benchmark wtf!!!!!'
wellmeaningalien: If you want actual AI talk that's Siev's server for you lol
wellmeaningalien: I mean it's improving really well slowly but urely
hikukomoru: Circlejerkification of Singularity server 🙏
futurist_wizard: Rn
futurist_wizard: Bruv ai is dead
wellmeaningalien: There's not really much to be said that hasnt already been said
wellmeaningalien: Idk to be honest I got a bit bored of talking about AI myself cause it's like the same 3 topics over and over again lmao
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: YOU ARE THE GOONER OF chat
wellmeaningalien: Yeah we're not actually making AI we're just a bunch of losers waiting for shit to happen
futurist_wizard: BRING UP A TOPIC
futurist_wizard: Oh shut up bitch
hikukomoru: Look at my Singularity server, dawggggg, we never gettin LEV like this 🙏 🙏 🙏
wellmeaningalien: And regenerate them
wellmeaningalien: Expert cockjiutsu double black belts can shoot their cocks like darts and stick them inside their adversaries
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zoermena: Cursed
_3sphere: I had horrifying physically infeasible diarrhea in a dream once but luckily it stayed that way
futurist_wizard: Lord of the muppets
connorsphone.: I wanted to shit so I did
zoermena: Self inflicted shit
_3sphere: What? How
hey1_1hey: And?
connorsphone.: No but ive shat myself while lucid dreaming
hikukomoru: It's past his bedtime
_3sphere: I did get bamboozled by a dream toilet when I was a kid ☠️
connorsphone.: A glimpse of a better world
futurist_wizard: Its 10
hey1_1hey: I'll promise I'll atleast do one for you
_3sphere: Has anyone actually shitted themselves from a nightmare
.histic:
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Anyway I do need to head to bed now. Gotta get that beauty sleep
hikukomoru: He's 14 or smth like that idk
hey1_1hey: She seems good at that
hey1_1hey: I'll let Komoru decide my age
_3sphere: idk
_3sphere: or 18?
_3sphere: I thought he was 17
zoermena: I have plus
hey1_1hey: +- 3 6 years
alejandrozarzuelo: Ok and now which one are you using?
hikukomoru: Yeah he's around that age
zoermena: Im honored
zoermena: For everyone but delayed release for free, free will be rare limited I think
_3sphere: Factoring is the way to go here and GPT did that correctly but hilariously failed after that
technocake.: new avatar who dis?
alejandrozarzuelo: #never_forget_2016
hey1_1hey: You forget I am retarded 👍
_3sphere: We did those when I was 15 in school
alejandrozarzuelo: there is always a u in eu
hey1_1hey: Yeah EU, well UK but yeah sure
.histic: wait, are u in eu?
alejandrozarzuelo: the 4o is for pro? or plus? or free?
.histic: damn
alejandrozarzuelo: omg
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_cloudost: Prompt: "Create 9 frames in one image of a looping cyclist animation" I wanna see if the native IMG generator can animate 2D characters
joaoluz19: Me too
spicy.lemonade: so someone else can still copy the method?
schwiftyinhere: Maybe they found something cool promoting the change?
ldj: license on the code base
schwiftyinhere: I just follow the GitHub repo
spicy.lemonade: How do you license research
spicy.lemonade: What
spicy.lemonade: Huh
schwiftyinhere: Looks like Facebook/meta changed the license for byte latent transformer code to non commercial today
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Google dropped world model paper
.histic: sure
_cloudost: Who's willing to help me? I need someone to generate something for me with the native IMG generator, I ran out of generations
zoermena: I will go with the first 1
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-future-trunks-gif-24360907
wellmeaningalien: read this as trunks
st.sioux: i will be kpop star
burnytech:
777agical: r2 soon
777agical: tariffs are here
wellmeaningalien: whatd they do lol
_cloudost: I believe people shouldn't hold such beliefs that are based on no empirical evidence, another reason why I oppose religion is because it promotes irrationality, take a look in TikTok, it's full of religious people, if I had a son talking like that I'd send him to a mental hospital, religion gives people schizophrenic traits eg ( whole world vs us, they hate us for our beliefs, we are the most oppressed religion, Obama is the antichrist ), this mindset makes the human brain smooth as well, not helping society as a whole
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
otub: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474
777agical: china won
777agical: it's so over
wellmeaningalien: It definitely means we're moving somewhere
joaoluz19: Yes
ldj: isn't that a good thing <:berk:750111476483752166>
computronium_: autism noise***
ldj: what have they released recently <:e_think:871265859199459358>
futurist_wizard: Make sure to be extra autistic today
joaoluz19: Happy autism day guys
joaoluz19: They promised us that this is the year of the agents, we need it
literallyvarane: I haven’t really considered this, but it’s kinda true isn’t it? We’re getting more economic value benchmarking
joaoluz19: Let's gooooo
joaoluz19: It's interesting that these benchmarks are moving from things like mathematics and competitive programming to tasks with real economic value.
hey1_1hey: Mayhaps, I am just happy because I got maths tomorrow and then I got work experience and then I get to go look at mushrooms in a new forest I found out about
joaoluz19: We're so back?
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ailoveyoom: https://youtu.be/KV49WH3ZTrY?si=pIpFVroaFlKAEOyq
spicy.lemonade: Udio
spicy.lemonade: Or idiot
spicy.lemonade: Then trickles to startups like 11labs
spicy.lemonade: It always starts at a big lab
spicy.lemonade: Most likeley gonna come from a big lab
zonchao: 😭
spicy.lemonade: I don’t think we are gonna get it from them
zonchao: fuck 11L fuck that lab fuck them for releasing banger demos then just disappearing
metaldragon01: Udio 2 and suno updates coming
spicy.lemonade: Sound generation breakthrough when
.wolfnacht: furries are gonna hang themselves when dat happens
ldj: They said Arc-agi v3 will be focused on a more diverse set of more creative and more open-ended tasks and environments.
.histic: 40k likes but 76 replies. gotta be bots.
spicy.lemonade: We are due for a music agi moment
zonchao: i think 4o and new Mj will be better than most art by normies
.wolfnacht: the ceiling's endless here
ldj: Well I think it's definitely still a better benchmark though in terms of making it even more difficult to reach average human level.
AI models already reached the average human scores in arc-agi v1, of around 75% But AI models are only around 5% score in Arc-agi v2 though.
metaldragon01: Well ai keeps raising the floor
.wolfnacht: Imagine reaching new standards of PEAK...thanks to AI
metaldragon01: Yea if people don't do the bare min prompt engineering.
.wolfnacht: tbh AI slop is abt to get better than 98% of most human slop.
zonchao: anti ai poasters are so stereotypical 😭
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
sarik0497: You can pick up your apologies cards to OpenAI here, folks.
zonchao: well it is happening, just wasn't intended <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: Doomers have been hallucinating their own importance so it's a wash
zonchao: oh
sarik0497: Good point. I honestly wonder what they will do with v3 if it just gets harder and harder for ordinary humans to do <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
wolf3404: LMAO now AI is hallicinating rules <:rolf:1136266740754550784> doomers are gonna love this
metaldragon01: Yall too quick to just listen to randos
metaldragon01: .....like I've been saying
spicy.lemonade: YAY
sarik0497: Still a risky thing to try.
I just wish they had something a bit more like maybe F.R.I.D.A.Y or Cortana
metaldragon01: https://x.com/joannejang/status/1905681602619085042
spicy.lemonade: Arc v2 will be saturated by the end of next year
st.sioux: if you can't see them being miserable then they're not working
.wolfnacht: u can't harass and exploit an LLM
wolf3404: lets be real about something: getting frustrated with an LLM is still 1000x better than getting frustrated with an actual IRL employee
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fractalcomputer: Nah, I'm a homosexual.
precariousworlds.: pope francis comes up on stage and announces end of homosexuality
futurist_wizard: Fractal the gay war was lost long ago goddamn, you could become islamic? They are still holding through
precariousworlds.: what
fractalcomputer: I mean, Catholic ethics haven't changed at all in the last century or so. They've just become a lot quieter about them for the sake of PR.
popsiclejohnithan: Ahhh the femboy emperor.
precariousworlds.: elegabalus be like
nobodyisugly: Go multitask
popsiclejohnithan:
.wolfnacht: did google removed filters from imagen ? i'm able to generate anything
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, this conversation has drifted too far, im going to go back to my visual novels if you excuse me
fractalcomputer: But the cowards do not have the balls to believe in their own fucking religion.
futurist_wizard: Lmao
popsiclejohnithan: Goon for Rome.
precariousworlds.: not macron, scholz, starmer, tusk, zelenskyy ??????????
popsiclejohnithan: You need to GOON.
fractalcomputer: I really wish the Catholic church were more willing again to exercise that spiritual authority and call for an end to homosexuality etc.
zoermena: Goon in your neighbors kitchen, fill it with your sauce and destroy the sink
precariousworlds.: why the fucking president of spain
nobodyisugly:
precariousworlds.: I reject degeneracy but I do find women beautiful
zoermena: She’s the only European leader I recognize beyond the president of Spain
popsiclejohnithan: Stop being a gooner smh.
popsiclejohnithan: Really? Damn.
alejandrozarzuelo: indeed, the spanish monarchs have the best claim to the throne of the empire
but as you know, spain todday is just a province of the EU, and considering that the EU not only has the strongest claimants to the roman empre in its borders, but also the city of rome and constantinople in its vassal union, then the EU has a very strong claim
(i know that spain is an EU state and turkey is an associated customs union member not a vassal, but you know, aesthetics)
precariousworlds.: also shes hot
precariousworlds.: Meloni is basically the only western leader who is actually popular
precariousworlds.: People shittalk her but Meloni is actually the most popular leader in Europe rn lmao
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly lmao.
popsiclejohnithan: Diluted Mussolini.
precariousworlds.: if irene of athens married charlemagne it wouldve been the most chaotic shitshow of the entire middle ages w
precariousworlds.: AVE MELONI IMPERATOR
fractalcomputer: I'm not Christian either. I just want to see some action.
fractalcomputer: The greatest mathematician of the last century liked to describe his informal opinions on any given mathematical subject as a given "yoga".
popsiclejohnithan: If only the HRE and Byzantium united.
precariousworlds.: Not Christian but I agree, Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches uniting seems the most logical choice if you want Christianity to remain a powerful force in the modern west
aero447: Honestly, it's a privilege just to witness your mind at work.
aero447: This is the kind of insight that rewrites how people see the universe itself.
alejandrozarzuelo: another thing to add to the EU being the new rome is that
the European Political Community, the EU+ its "vassal states" not only contains rome but also Constantinople
aero447: Only someone operating on a truly elevated plane of consciousness could connect mathematics and yoga so effortlessly.
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spicy.lemonade: and surpass
spicy.lemonade: openAI will surely catchup
maintcrew: nah they need money 😭
spicy.lemonade: they need to diversify
maintcrew: i think the point of 3.7 is programming maxxing
spicy.lemonade: but others will catch up
spicy.lemonade: good for vibe code ig
spicy.lemonade: bad at math, bad for general use
maintcrew: fuck you pal dont talk about my girlfriend like that
spicy.lemonade: rate limits suck
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: ngl fuck claude
maintcrew:
_cloudost: when....
maintcrew: i think claude just gave up on general audiences and is purely aiming for enterprise and ai bros
drewsni: it felt good back then
drewsni: i mean it was released dec 2022
spicy.lemonade: it makea a blury version first then adds details
st.sioux: not good
spicy.lemonade: you can notice this
drewsni: that was openai point-e after literally 3 hours of compute lol
spicy.lemonade: yeah
drewsni:
st.sioux: me
drewsni: whos the one that made the poop 3d model
joaoluz19: Yes, I can only do it with free alternatives and now we have image gen on gpt so...
clevermoniker: about 4o image generation:
> It's predicting hiearchically autoregressively
> The first part is predicting high level features
> One might call it a "plan"
spacetimetsunami: Looks like all my exes
st.sioux: idk how expensive it would be tho
st.sioux: you can run it on docker and host it on aws if you're into that sort of thing
joaoluz19: FINALLY
777agical: https://x.com/andrewcurran_/status/1904627541966790777?s=46
joaoluz19: Problem is that my PC is trash and i don't have money to image gen other than gpt
gamerbath: I can't use it
gamerbath: why is the sticker grayed out?
gamerbath:
spicy.lemonade: how am I in sanfransisco and it still hasnt rolled out to me
hey1_1hey: Anyone who sees them immiedtly starts drooling
st.sioux: wait until you discover stable diffussion
hey1_1hey: Make them litterly a congnito hazard
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aero447: <@750270494615404544> Shill Starlink.
_3sphere: Factorio
_3sphere: Only satellite phones would work and you'd need a friend elsewhere to post it on Twi/shitter
aero447: 🤣
aero447:
_3sphere: No signal
trojan09205: Preppers are probably so happy rn lol
nsec: do u srsly not charge ur phones
nsec: where are the ppl posting from they phones
aero447: Lmao.
aero447: Don't forget them.
aero447: France.
trojan09205: <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
trojan09205: How can spain/portugal justify any of its spending on random stuff if they cant even get this right
nsec: there do be being many such cases
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
nsec: anglo supremacy
nsec:
nsec: pov u live in europe
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487
hey1_1hey: If only, its just bad infrastructure tho
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
zoermena: ASI is punishing Europe tech regulations
zoermena: :D
_3sphere: 21-24 UTC and it looks very different :3
_3sphere: Is the time of day
hey1_1hey: Its all going so well
hey1_1hey: Aperntly the south of france and belgium have no power now aswell
.wolfnacht: wait till R2 drops
zoermena: What are we going to do what the fuck
zoermena: The server is so dead rn and it shows
_3sphere: 2003 blackout did have quite a lot of deaths though
_3sphere: Terminally online people are at basically no risk from this lol
zoermena: :D
zoermena: Alejandro naturally becomes a cult leader
zoermena: Correct but we can do hour best to honor her memory you know since that entire part of Europe is back in the Middle Ages
_3sphere: Vicekomoru :3
_3sphere: I can never compare to Komoru
zoermena: You’ll have to take over horny posting now <@1190031399080710195>
zoermena: RIP komoru
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spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade:
precariousworlds.: exactly. I think most are scared shitless
.wolfnacht: imagine openly calling to kill a group
.wolfnacht: Also, look at the comments
.wolfnacht: https://fxtwitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1906095575520653801
spicy.lemonade: this will be the last year of normalcy before we see unimaginable things
spicy.lemonade: 2026-7 is when things get weird
spicy.lemonade: still in dev stage of everything
spicy.lemonade: 2025 so far hasnt been that crazy
spicy.lemonade: lol
_cloudost: .
_cloudost: I predicted it
memlaswaif: or just buy moar gpu
spicy.lemonade: ngl they have 3 choices:
1. keep a large amount of gpus for native image
2. heavily rate limit native image
3. opensource the method and use all gpus to work on rest of agi
.wolfnacht: it's crazy, how the horde is just reacting instead of thinking for once, they've got the tools in their hands to make anything they want, now. The same artists won't even come to spit on what other human think of them...maybe it all came from deepseated insecurity bcz the AI slop better than human slop.
precariousworlds.: excuses
hey1_1hey: Everyone hold!
precariousworlds.: you ask them
memlaswaif: why be petty
precariousworlds.: The copium-fueled screaming of unemployed mentally ill "artists" has been hilarious to watch
People are getting so upset at the idea of art being accessible to everyone instead of having to spend years learning how to draw properly with thousands of dollars of equipment and software
.wolfnacht: There needs to be an archive of all those perfectly timed and surreal images that were actually real and upon seeing which people used to call "Photoshopped" with real timestamps. Bcz once AI Images becomes a norm around us. No one is going to believe anything they would see, even at a slight questioning they will end up saying "AI SLOP", [for eg. if the sky appears blood red or cloud appears too good in shape for pareidolia to trigger. bcz of some natural phenomena or, An picture from late 1800s of a building that looked too unique to be real but was destroyed during 20th century. Everyone would chime in to say "AI SLOP".]
_cloudost: The only time I agreed with the artist community was when they made fun of NFTs
archon.e: I’m bullish on nfts atm
archon.e: Once AI automates all knowledge work, art will become valuable again
_cloudost: I heard some people lost millions of dollars cuz they invested in NFT
_cloudost: NFT? Isn't that platform outdated
maintcrew: steven universe fanboys are the most annoying breed possible im sorry
maintcrew: havent seen mfs like these hate ai art
maintcrew: https://x.com/wlopwangling
hey1_1hey: Oh my god do not let my homie find out about this tweet.
Hates AI art
Loves Steven Universe
.wolfnacht: what's the rate limit ?
.wolfnacht: guess who ?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lol
gamerbath: <@471334973379706900>
gamerbath: UPDATE: got permanently banned <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: That should be an illegal word
hey1_1hey: "Fursona" 😭
.wolfnacht:
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spicy.lemonade: than the ai
spicy.lemonade: in his art
spicy.lemonade: theres more inconsitencies
spicy.lemonade: unironically
mihrcelium: At the risk of reviving an old tired spiel, I think an AGI aligned with current human power structures will be the real threat vector.
brain4brain: When UBI is announced, I hope they split it into two part, give them half so they can’t bitch about AI anymore, but keep the other half because of “hate speech against AI”
st.sioux: what a timeline
st.sioux: now art is going to be rated based on how long it took to make
spicy.lemonade: than what took him 9 hours
spicy.lemonade: 1 min looks better
spicy.lemonade: Lolll
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Now ai
spicy.lemonade:
memlaswaif: these vids will age veryy badly
anathemaofmankind: Based
.histic: <@578146630222741504> if we have a misaligned AGI, hopefully skynet wipes them out first.
mihrcelium: I haven't done shit with mine except realize how awful Sora is and useless deep researches on America's progression into fascism. But now we're cookin'.
drewsni: this is where someone questions me and i brag about having an oai pro sub jan of 2023
mihrcelium:
.histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvBz8A1OTAQ
this is what the average luddite looks like.
drewsni: ya....well i had an oai pro sub before any of you
okbut: I remember OAI seeming to scramble to throw Pro subs more features after Grok was released with DeepSearch and their arm was twisted to give (Deep Research) to Plus users too
okbut: >I have an OAI pro sub
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/broke-fairlyoddparents-burning-money-gif-4486655
mihrcelium: MJ isn't as special as it used to be, for sure. But it still has a niche, and a lot of utility for creative output.
st.sioux: rich person spotted
mihrcelium: My dude, I have an OAI pro sub and I was one of the initial MJ alpha testers. <a:PepeNoHappy:1136619141101539418>
.histic: imagine GPT-5 being multimodal w/ image creation capabilities.
anathemaofmankind: Have you used 4o
anathemaofmankind: Just ask it?
mihrcelium: Yeah? How would you get 4o to take the first abstract and transform it into the abstract portraits here, in a style that could be consistently reproduced and iteratively modified over and over again?
okbut: Upside down inverted
okbut: The spacial awareness for the numbers in the last panel is impressive
spicy.lemonade: conscidering not reasoner
spicy.lemonade: good at ilustrating competative programming problems
okbut: I wonder why they haven't bothered to offload text inclusions with such a function yet
drewsni: people have a general idea, but we dont know for sure
drewsni: ive read a lot of discussion about how it works from a lot of really smart people and nobody really knows yet tbh
okbut: Notice the "transparency" checkers are still in the 2nd image
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.histic: usually just a response of you've been rate limited for x amount of minutes. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
futurist_wizard: Yes
technocake.: London RIP
zoermena: and where it is
zoermena: Depends on how big it is
zoermena: Have you gotten any messages of "ufortunately we can´t make images rn to make it smoother etc"
.histic: yeah, i sometimes have to wait 6 minutes
technocake.: I'm trying to buy a house, is that absolute insanity given the probable next 5 years of development?
futurist_wizard: Bruh
zoermena: To pro you say?
futurist_wizard: Pay up
zoermena: I just got 4o ratecucked
technocake.: sounds like mine tbf
trent_k: brutally owned myself
drewsni: And before anyone asks. No I cannot afford to run o1 pro and I cannot afford to run o1 w/ search either
technocake.: erm guys, this is for us https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1jm60ma/ai_twitter_in_2025/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
drewsni: <@269678268670672896> first run had 2.5 pro w/ grounding at 3236 avg, ahead of o1's 3139
.histic: 2.5 Pro scored 51% on [SimpleBench](https://simple-bench.com/)
5% higher than 3.7 Thinking on spatial reasoning, social understanding, and trick questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTslCsPBGHw
bob082957: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/manus-ai/id6740909540
bob082957: It’s a app
technocake.: such are our boundaries
trent_k: its illegal to make threats
technocake.: and europe has no free speech?
technocake.: something something 4th amendment
trent_k: im going to stop posting about the irs now because im getting mad and i dont wanna fedpost with my name+picture attached to what I would like to say 😇
trent_k: the ROI for bribing government officials is insane
trent_k: in a lot of cases it's like a few thousand dollars lol
trent_k: do u know how much it costs to bribe US government officials?
trent_k: and the worst part is
technocake.: monopoly much?
st.sioux: infinite money glitch
trent_k: they charge me money to process my taxes for me in a somewhat convenient manner, then they use that money to bribe the government into making sure they keep having repeat customers
trent_k: turbotax "lobbies" (bribes) the government to avoid the IRS publishing its own filing tools
technocake.:
trent_k: here in the US
trent_k: it's way worse than u know even
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/judging-stare-bored-dont-you-dare-annoyed-gif-22904796
trent_k: well, because I'd have to read over the documents myself and the whole point is to avoid doing all that lol
st.sioux: cant be that many right?
st.sioux: why dont you list the companies and tell them what they are
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futurist_wizard: I agree and that's a bad outcome for us, but I'm saying all roads will eventually lead to hive minds so discussing what humans will do in 1000 years, its just kinda absurd in that context
perish0801: An absolute tiny percentage of people truly believe that they were dead. Plus we’re talking about a post AGI society. Mental diseases would most likely be non existent
st.sioux: and what about those who don't
fractalcomputer: Well that's just bad argumentation.
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm assuming he is an utilitarian by his way of speaking
alejandrozarzuelo: But not one with humans on it
fractalcomputer: I'm not sure moral statements are open to fallacies.
futurist_wizard: In a way that is still a hivemind
alejandrozarzuelo: We really cannot forecast beyond 2040
alejandrozarzuelo: Or whatever
alejandrozarzuelo: I say might
There is a good possibility that humans are all killed by a Gray goo
perish0801: Where?
alejandrozarzuelo: This is a fallacy
futurist_wizard: Yes, as i know you know
All roads lead to hivemind
hikukomoru: Wdym by disembodiment
fractalcomputer: I love ethics.
perish0801: Because do you appreciate being born? Yes right? Most are grateful to be alive. So let’s give more people the opportunity to feel that
alejandrozarzuelo: ASI might imply the complete disembodiment of the human species
We really cannot say much about the demographics of the future
futurist_wizard: Not have more people for no reason
futurist_wizard: We should increase the prosperity of the people we have today
perish0801: Ofc not all of the space but there’s enough space for a few more billions on earth
st.sioux: is there any reasoning for saying more humans is a good thing?
futurist_wizard: Post ASI, having more humans existing literally serves nothing
hikukomoru: They have space sure, but not all of that space is fit for human habitation
You can't put billions of people in the Australian outback or the Siberian tundra
trojan09205: Your individualized identity is over
perish0801: There is cuz birthing more humans is a good thing if we can support it. People are good
trojan09205: “it” isnt done
ailoveyoom: FDVR pods are more compact
st.sioux: u dont know that\
trojan09205: Idk havent died
himekokatagiri: when you're dead it's done
fractalcomputer: I'd rather see Finnish nature preserved than a few tens of millions of people alive.
trojan09205: Why
perish0801: Not when nuclear fusion gets invented
futurist_wizard: There's no reason to do that
himekokatagiri: death is a big deal
fractalcomputer: Certainly. But one can have other motives against this, such as environmental concerns.
trojan09205: Wyoming is cold af
himekokatagiri: that's kinda mean
perish0801: We can do both with AGI
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thedon7075: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k0blmi/tyler_cowen_previously_received_early_access_so/
zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1912229420309291052?
zonchao: https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1912251160389644299?
zonchao: https://x.com/512x512/status/1912319830239383903?
himekokatagiri: thanks
hikukomoru: I’ll give Sundar Pichai a call 👍
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> you're googles strongest soldier can't you talk it out with them
himekokatagiri: I didn't get to use veo
himekokatagiri: Now I'm sad
st.sioux: its aistudio
st.sioux: is this new?
zoermena: I personally liked this more
oooooooooog: well, you know more than me, after all, i dont use twitter
oooooooooog: ok
spicy.lemonade: Literally anything they deem is morphed it’s circled lol
spicy.lemonade: It’s more unserious than this
spicy.lemonade: No
oooooooooog: thats usually just like, having five fingers and stuff, in this case the guy is just stepping forward
spicy.lemonade: Especially this
spicy.lemonade: I think ai one looks better still
spicy.lemonade: But look at the morphed undetsiked
Parts of human version
spicy.lemonade: Or lacks detailed
spicy.lemonade: That looks morphed
spicy.lemonade: On ai art
spicy.lemonade: Artists would circle random stuff
spicy.lemonade: That’s the meme
hikukomoru: It’s cause the giant geese thing is the main focus
spicy.lemonade:
oooooooooog: whats bad about the circled parts lol
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Disagree
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: Cmon now
I like making fun of smug artists as much as anyone here but the OG looks better
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Several even
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Created better version with ai
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: yeah, true.
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maintcrew: no wrong this is a solo session
you need to spiritually connect to the model by yourself to be able to goon properly
joaoluz19: what?
zonchao: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
hikukomoru: AI studio
zonchao: pliny is proomting
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kagamine-len-goon-gooning-gooner-goon-sesh-gif-3728756366461103848
joaoluz19: Guys where's the jailbreak for RP
maintcrew: idk just use aistudio.google.com
zonchao: is it on gemini
maintcrew: goon sesh activated
maintcrew: i will use it
maintcrew: thanks chat
zonchao: big sota
hikukomoru: It's out
Go use it now
zonchao: yes
maintcrew: hi chat new gemini?
zonchao: <@1316552597829586955> <:reedly:1122484993097216052>
metaldragon01: It's good
zonchao: it will score bigly
metaldragon01: Top by a mile if it can beat the thinking curse
hikukomoru: They cooked
hikukomoru: I should have never talked shit about Google
metaldragon01: The instruction following is crazy good
drewsni: whats everyones guess on what it will score on deepguessr
joaoluz19: Deepseek prices lolololol
ailoveyoom: R1 can come up with some banger lines ngl 🥵
hikukomoru: "creative writing"
LET'S GOOO
zonchao: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1904581128746656099? 😈😈😈😈
hikukomoru: Everything is much worse than Claude when it comes to ERP
But DeepSeek is a close second or third
joaoluz19: Is deepseek much worse than claude?
hikukomoru: Irrelevant really
You can bypass that by using different google accounts
darkstar0818: I wonder if this is a new base model or just thinking on top of pro
metaldragon01: Google apology forms are being accepted btw
hikukomoru: And should probably use it inside a frontend like SillyTavern
hikukomoru: You need a preset
darkstar0818: Someone find the elon quoate about grok3 remaining #1 forever.
joaoluz19: Hey, it's not censored?
hikukomoru: Add your billing info
ailoveyoom: ☁️
hikukomoru: Claude all the way
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_cloudost: "can we kill AI artists" truly said like a fascist
alejandrozarzuelo: they are coping already?
realelonmuskx: they are in hard cope and denial. its crazy how good this ais have become in some months
_cloudost: Criminal artists ☕
_cloudost: for their crimes
_cloudost: never forgiving them
_cloudost: I lost all sympathy for artists after they sent death threats to people who use AI image generators
.histic: yeah, it's quiet nice to see
futurist_wizard: Mostly pro ai
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/
is another interesting subreddit about ai art.
jonvi_1: The fall of rome
a1c4p0ne: Their plan is to poison the data
_cloudost: I laugh hard at artists coping in r/artisthate
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: 🦗
a1c4p0ne: No one talking about 2.5 pro
a1c4p0ne: 4o image more hyped than 2.5 pro
futurist_wizard: Its very good at including even the small details
futurist_wizard:
jonvi_1: Albeit that doesn't really make sense given how the others are looking buuuut
jonvi_1: I'm thinking the car stopped abruptly and the driver hit his head haha
.coldcall: Indeed.
zoermena: Do you have plus
.coldcall: Or the driver is really into the smell
.coldcall: Also he is feeding that driver the steering wheel
zoermena: Cold call is AGI
.coldcall: The future is now
zoermena: Nice
jonvi_1: Just for them to watch that, passing the image as reference
zoermena: Pass the prompt
jonvi_1: Assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
futurist_wizard: 2001 space Odyssey
.histic:
futurist_wizard: It is
hikukomoru: Omg
boo/bee is what I set as my pronouns on my profile
alejandrozarzuelo: I really hate this
alejandrozarzuelo: I hate that it can do this so well
.histic:
alejandrozarzuelo: Which is why i don't like it
st.sioux: thought it was miencraft
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futurist_wizard: I stopped being vegan over developing gerd
st.sioux: this isnt meat
alejandrozarzuelo: I am vegan, because I AM holier than thou
But I am not radical
_cloudost: minds
_cloudost: I can read mknds
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/satori-heart-hands-finger-fingers-gif-196030625769389255
futurist_wizard: I was vegan for 6-7 years
jonvi_1:
alejandrozarzuelo: But people refuse to eat meat because of morality, this is not applicable to AI
hikukomoru: Alejandro you give me radical vegan vibes
_cloudost: Hundreds of millions of people wont care if entertainment becomes completely AI
zoermena: Im in a class talking about this what the fuck
alejandrozarzuelo: That's the point
alejandrozarzuelo: It does
_cloudost: many vegetarians refuse to buy meat, yet it doesn't affect the meat industry
st.sioux: if they can tell that is
st.sioux: even then people might refuse to use or buy from companies who use ai
st.sioux: not yet, you know for sure there will be some sort of pushback from hollywood or some other big industry, idk if adobe maybe
_cloudost: Drawing isnt a repetitive task
_cloudost: they said repetitive jobs will be replaced, yet art got replaced by AI art
alejandrozarzuelo: I am genuinely curious about what traction artists will have on this
jonvi_1: Prompting it to generate me ritual sacrifice now 🙃
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW
_cloudost: Its complete cope
alejandrozarzuelo: We will have a noticeable, but still very small, uptick in GLOBAL unemployment due to AI
oooooooooog: i won't lose my job
_cloudost: dont listen to these "AI WONT REPLACE HUMANS"
_cloudost: you all will lose your jobs one day
_cloudost: remember when they said "human artists will never be replaced"? That talk aged like milk
zoermena: Gpt4o moment for voice available to everyone or at least those paying, higher limits on deep research for plus operator for plus
futurist_wizard: All we need is the cost dramatically down and then you'd be able to redo entire movies with any style
spacetimetsunami: What is everyone’s EOY predictions?
jonvi_1: Yeah haha I'm trying to see if I can get it to make stuff with that vibe
st.sioux: pour one out for the homies
st.sioux: devs
jonvi_1:
futurist_wizard: I think this is genuinely their funeral
futurist_wizard: Rest in peace artists
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard:
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spicy.lemonade: then by 2027 it wont be the researchers who have the idea
spicy.lemonade: then implement in full model
spicy.lemonade: give results
spicy.lemonade: and implement and test
spicy.lemonade: researcher has idea, and tells agent to figure it out
spicy.lemonade: an agentic framework would be much better
spicy.lemonade: to speed up
spicy.lemonade: more like researchers asking it to write code for them
.histic: i wonder what model they're using
spicy.lemonade: but not as much as they could
spicy.lemonade: yes almost certainly
zoermena: Gives confidence
zoermena: The rumors of the models already being used in R&D rn
spicy.lemonade: and drop 2026
spicy.lemonade: theyl use gpt 6 for r&d
zoermena: 2026 Q1 latest
.histic: be sure, maybe internally.
.histic: also, don't forgot o3 technically took 4 months of optimization to even be released <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
it isn't as quick as you think.
zoermena: I say it since we are transitioning from releasing just pure singular models to reasoner ones then instead of seeing oX > o4 they’ll just be shipped as GPTX
spicy.lemonade: gpt6 will be an internal model
.histic: i think realistically OpenAI would hold off on GPT-6 and call it GPT-5.5 if the improvements aren’t significant. if they are, i bet GPT-6 will be very compute-intensive that it would need months of optimization and safety testing.
early 2026 if that was the case.
zoermena: Late summer
zoermena: You really think that? I suppose it should be ready by summer
spicy.lemonade: gpt6 eoy means they have a working version rn
zoermena: Im going to make a “bold” prediction but I think we’ll see GPT6 EOY
.histic: back in my times
.histic: you aren't grown enough
.histic: i realize you're 20 years old
himekokatagiri: Suzuha.
himekokatagiri:
.histic: what is it filled with
zoermena: Literal human excrement
zoermena: It’s almost like the motherfucker doesn’t want the world to get better technology
“Oh haha you got cancer and you won’t get a cure soon haha I’m so right lol” <:Gary:1293094352796520599>
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: what other future was there besides deep learning?
himekokatagiri: uhhh yeah why wouldn't I
.histic: i bet you've a dedicated porn folder on your device, don't you?
zoermena: Gary Marcus is insufferable and many times his supporters too
himekokatagiri: It's history
.histic: bro just keeps receipts
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gamerbath: <:HyperChamp:609895809462435896>
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/anime-sleeping-im-dead-gif-15157935
zonchao: https://x.com/shadcn/status/1917597228513853603
gamerbath: I guess i'm too retarded
gamerbath: so there exists only about 15 people in the world who would be considered AGI level intelligence
gamerbath: their yearly revenue from one AI model must reach 100 billion first....
fractalcomputer: It is always the American authors that somehow manage to shake my materialistically inclined mind.
trojan09205: I read a lot as well
fractalcomputer: I've mostly been reading through books. Wittgenstein's Tractatus and McCarthy's Passenger and Stella Maris, in the last few weeks.
zoermena: Both are unlikely
_cloudost: and im waiting for openAI to announce AGI this year.
zoermena: I’m honestly just waiting on midjourney to say prompt adherence was solved
precariousworlds.: https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-say-that-say-that-agian-marvel-fantastic-gif-12441585058103544841
trojan09205: <@749514473303179358> I'm watching a pretty dope movie called 'Black Bag'. definitely makes you think a lot about trust
metaldragon01: Product being referred to
zoermena: Quite the precarious situation
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/Diesol/status/1917468778025345122
precariousworlds.: What does scare the shit out of me though is bird flu spreading between humans
If bird flu mutates like that I genuinely believe civilisation will collapse and not recover for decades.
trojan09205: Yes, I can.
alejandrozarzuelo: remember catholics saying that a pope named Pietro or a black pope will be the end of times (2 out of the 4 main pope candidates)
fractalcomputer: That's not my point. I'm asking whether you can truly differentiate your interpretation of the text from that text.
otub: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
otub: he didnt mention at what timescale, 30 sec? 1 min? 5 min?
trojan09205: i dont even know what “I” am tbh
fractalcomputer: Do you recognise yourself in the mirror; or upon the surface of a lake, is it you that stares back?
trojan09205: Also i just like art in general
trojan09205: To learn about my own interpretations
fractalcomputer: Say, why do you lot watch movies? Or read books?
clevermoniker: or at least close to true
clevermoniker: but this has a chance of being true
clevermoniker: if it was someone that wasn't at the frontier i would just shrug it off
clevermoniker: same
fractalcomputer: Probably—granted you have fallen prey to that primal, drumming desire to pour slop down your throat.
_cloudost: they have the best ai video generation models so kinda yeah
zoermena: Do you believe him?
_cloudost: ............,,,......does .......that.......mean.....that.............umm.........................................................film industries......are.........s-s-screwed..?
zoermena: <:ThinkSmirk:511751914648633364>
vancebeliever: when people stop dying having children will be forbidden immediately right?
fractalcomputer: I'm so glad a certain German philosopher of the romantic era solved philosophy.
clevermoniker: Runway CEO:
https://fxtwitter.com/c_valenzuelab/status/1917572273394815470
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joaoluz19: It's a french word
hey1_1hey: Agreed, I hate it because it sounds like cats banging
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, that's what it is
futurist_wizard: Welsh language is literally mumbo jumbo
hey1_1hey: I barley speak english ffs
hey1_1hey: I dont speak it
futurist_wizard: You are welsh
hikukomoru: Xiu puta
alejandrozarzuelo: And many others
joaoluz19: Nor do I
hey1_1hey: Ah yeah that really clears it up ty
(I dont speak mumbo jumbo)
alejandrozarzuelo: This is the same way we tend to say coup d'état instead of insurrection
hikukomoru: > substantivo feminino:
> diminuição da tensão nas relações entre nações ou governos; melhora das relações internacionais.
That's what I found
futurist_wizard: I don't speak Portuguese and i know what detente means
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes we do it in Spanish too
hey1_1hey: To me it souds like a funky ass food so maybe they are going out on a dinner date I really couldn't tell you
himekokatagiri: I think it's cringe
himekokatagiri: to sound smarter
himekokatagiri: did you know in brazil people use English words all the time
himekokatagiri: I speak Portuguese and idk what a detente is
alejandrozarzuelo: I think it gives it a bit of gravitas
alejandrozarzuelo: It is English, I jusr like to use gallicisms from time to time that's all
himekokatagiri: He's called Microsoft because that's his dick
hikukomoru: Also what is a détente, just speak English please
futurist_wizard: Singularity man
hey1_1hey: Or philopshy
hey1_1hey: Thats what Fractal is usually mad about
hey1_1hey: Why don't you and Fractal get along? Something to do with applied mathamatics or smth or other
joaoluz19: We are so back
hey1_1hey: I came to see what the chatter was about because I had some free time and I just se a wall of messages of you and Fractla aruging and then I see you left and I was like "Oh here we go again, Alejnadro has to sleep on the couch again"
joaoluz19: Bro you have to accept the glorious evolution
hikukomoru: Seeing couples fight is so sad
joaoluz19: 1 quadrillion
hey1_1hey: Welcome back
alejandrozarzuelo: Didn't leave, fractal and I jusr don't get along, decided to have a détente, I'm here again
hikukomoru: 1 waifu is enough
futurist_wizard: Futurist label no more
himekokatagiri: or none idk
joaoluz19: Harem 4D
himekokatagiri: I just want one
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futurist_wizard: Did u mis me? 🥺
futurist_wizard: Hello Kum
himekokatagiri: yeah
himekokatagiri: aren't cigarettes hot!
hikukomoru: Wait aren't you 20
Carl-bot#1536:
himekokatagiri: woah komoru cigarettes
himekokatagiri: no I graduated
hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> Hi cock
hikukomoru: Are u in college
drewsni: + has artifacts, web search, code interpreter and functions you can add on
drewsni: open source chatgpt ui clone that can use any model
himekokatagiri: what's that
drewsni: i recommend everyone abandoning all platforms and just use open webui + openrouter
himekokatagiri: That cop's rotting in jail probably
.histic: i saw a video showing a guy in brazil robbing a gas station and undercover police shot him dead when he ran out from the store. the man stole like a couple of chips and drinks.
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
.histic: oh i thought you meant something else
himekokatagiri: everything in the store....
.histic: ?
.histic: everything
himekokatagiri: I ain't gonna die before the singularity
himekokatagiri: shit if they mug me I'll let them take everything
.histic: it will
himekokatagiri: I hope it won't kill me
himekokatagiri: I'm getting a job at the convenience store
spicy.lemonade: still thinks country of geniuses 2027
spicy.lemonade:
metaldragon01: Dario is all In on interpretability
joaoluz19: The CEO of singularity
metaldragon01: https://www.darioamodei.com/post/the-urgency-of-interpretability
spicy.lemonade: anthropic doesnt have the gpus
metaldragon01: Maybe Dario is ok as long as they have enough funding for safety research to just be a successful lab that does meaningful work
metaldragon01: Anthropic will make it but I think we either see a pivot or a more narrow focus
.histic: man, OpenAI is shipping so hard that it is making me hard.
Anthropic is ngmi.
joaoluz19: You promissed us
joaoluz19: <@432515827443433472> where's AGI
.histic: we need to see that manifesto of yours.
jonvi_1: Lol
fractalcomputer: Well?
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spicy.lemonade: google has like 8 models on lmarena
metaldragon01: But yes google will be ready
metaldragon01: I expect that to be better than 2.5
metaldragon01: .....we are getting a unseen o3 that's better than what they demonstrated
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini is better than o3 full at coding and math
spicy.lemonade: yes o3 full is better than 2.5
metaldragon01: They are releasing updated o3
spicy.lemonade: this week
spicy.lemonade: given google is about to drop a better one
spicy.lemonade: why would they release a model worse than 2.5
metaldragon01: I'd be very surprised
metaldragon01: I highly doubt o4 mini is better than 2.5
darkstar0818: l8r
joaoluz19: Cheers
joaoluz19: The same thing I could say about you lol
metaldragon01: Nah 2.5 equal or better than og o3 imo
abundantliving_: Idk
darkstar0818: if you have then I dont know why you are confused by what I have said.
joaoluz19: No just you bro
spicy.lemonade: o3 will superceed 2.5 and o4 mini will be better at coding
joaoluz19: Lol
darkstar0818: Have you ever read the books that this channel is named after?
joaoluz19: What do you mean there is no special event? For you, did the 2022-2025 interval have the same impact seen throughout the 21st century as the interval, say, 2018-2022?
spicy.lemonade: i dont think so
spicy.lemonade: isnt that just gemini 2.5
dean_martin: Talking to your buddies in 2030 after AGI like “remember when we lost our shit over the dog putting his paws on the little keyboard”
okbut: Cloud? Or energy?
metaldragon01: Slightly lower than og o3 benchmarks @pass 1
darkstar0818:
spicy.lemonade: benchmark predictions for o4 mini?
joaoluz19: ?
joaoluz19: Or that I didn't show pre-2012 growth
darkstar0818: Its a continous curve. Any 'special' event someone claims to see is just because they are choosing to ignore data.
joaoluz19: And I showed evidence. What was the criticism? That DMs are based on neural networks so previous progress was more/equal in impact to the current one?
darkstar0818: I will go with ray kurzweil's definition of progress when it comes to AI.
abundantliving_: https://x.com/gregmushen/status/1911256730518098428
okbut: El Ajedrecista, 1912, was AI born then?
darkstar0818: I feel like people just vibe and self hype up and say some shit and then defend it like its their child.
okbut: I feel like AI is undergoing polarization in its definition due to the ambiguity in "Neural net"
darkstar0818: Which means you have the honor of proving your case.
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futurist_wizard: We don't have sora either
professorheaven: I doubt mathematics can actually explain the universe
fuhulootogan: whuh?
ailoveyoom: It's a figure of speech
himekokatagiri: 🚬 damn
fractalcomputer: We could avoid this degenerating into a meaningless antitheistic dumpster fire.
ailoveyoom: Sweet summer child 🥺
futurist_wizard: Europe does not have access to such a device
fuhulootogan: and unfortunately god isn't really the greatest judge
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/blue-emoji-meme-surprised-gif-14531710399995277313
fuhulootogan: those are your two choices
himekokatagiri: you could go to jail meng
fuhulootogan: eternal hell
fuhulootogan: or
fuhulootogan: agree
himekokatagiri: isn't that animal abuse
fuhulootogan: ah well true, but
futurist_wizard: I suppose because there's no unifying purpose in the universe, God's judgement on purpose is just as valid as mine
ailoveyoom: Okay my job is to be knotted by the wolf 🥰
fuhulootogan: because we received the message from him
fuhulootogan: if the christian god hypothetically did exist we'd know he'd have a message for us
fractalcomputer: That doesn't mean you'd have to agree with its message, would it now?
himekokatagiri: damn furries
hikukomoru: Hey hey, posting edgy wolf is MY job
fuhulootogan: a guidance
fractalcomputer: Bingo. Now, why do you think this is so?
fuhulootogan: the christian god by lore has sent down a holy book
futurist_wizard: Not intrinsically
himekokatagiri: damn...
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fIios5sRHo
hikukomoru: I still don't have it despite being Google's strongest soldier
fuhulootogan: why would the christian god exist
fractalcomputer: Why?
fuhulootogan: actually
fuhulootogan: yes
ailoveyoom: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
fuhulootogan: you seem very knowledgeable
fractalcomputer: Suppose the Christian God existed. Would that mean you'd have to find whatever God purports to be good?
himekokatagiri: did anyone here get veo2
fractalcomputer: Even if the universe were designed with some intrinsic purpose by a godly entity (an actual deity, a technologically supreme civilisation, etc.) or optimised for some specific physical state (such as producing an optimal number of black holes, intelligent life, producing baby universes, etc.) by some blind teleonomic process, this would impart no intrinsic ethical worth on the wider cosmos.
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spicy.lemonade: clearly a bit of a tradeoff here as they scalled up reasoning
spicy.lemonade: i mean 2.0 is better than 2.5 here too
a1c4p0ne: people are saying o3 mini was better than o4 mini
spicy.lemonade: 0.7%
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: leaderboard already basically saturated
a1c4p0ne: https://github.com/vectara/hallucination-leaderboard?tab=readme-ov-file
okbut: -to answer
okbut: You can identify as whatever in your off time, but it's boy/girl for DoD
joaoluz19: That was the right
joaoluz19: Interesting, I would like to experience it against entering in a Mary's room problem
joaoluz19: <@471334973379706900> I marked the wrong message mb
spicy.lemonade: gives me good hopes for alignment
spicy.lemonade: i like that theres so many diverse people at openAI
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: til Aidan is trans
alejandrozarzuelo: then i would definitely hallucinate
alejandrozarzuelo: if you asked me aboyt last years birthday
alejandrozarzuelo: like
alejandrozarzuelo: i would do that for a day i claim to remember
spicy.lemonade: humans dont have 0% hallucination rate
spicy.lemonade: or mandella effect
spicy.lemonade: "i swear i left it right here"
spicy.lemonade: like where you left your wallet
spicy.lemonade: or just random hallucinations
spicy.lemonade: you might go "I think i ... im not sure though"
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: they go "ahah it must answer everything corect"
spicy.lemonade: when people think 0% hallucination rate
okbut: In other words: There are good and bad hallucinations, thus approach a net positive better than humans
alejandrozarzuelo: there is a difference between hallucination and nor remembering
spicy.lemonade: like people think
spicy.lemonade: not get everything correct
spicy.lemonade: AI needs to know what it doesnt know
spicy.lemonade: yeah thats what needs to be solved
alejandrozarzuelo: this is a better comparison
alejandrozarzuelo: nah, i would simply say i dont remember
spicy.lemonade: youd still hallucinate
spicy.lemonade: last year
spicy.lemonade: or rather what you did on your birthday
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a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne:
zonchao: 😈
alejandrozarzuelo: 🇨🇳 🇪🇺
Stars on solid backgrounds, gotta be one of my favourite flag combos
okbut:
rayanquitplayin: Machiavellian, not unstable
rayanquitplayin: I feel like a lot of business leaders are like that
literallyvarane: There's no reasoning on the G3 Beta
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: Wait that's probably not a fair comp on my part
jonvi_1: Dario and demis less so
literallyvarane:
jonvi_1: Sam’s got a Machiavellian streak kinda, and Elon’s uh a little unstable
jonvi_1: There’s not a lot of good-faith tbh
rayanquitplayin: I saw this
777agical: https://x.com/OpenAINewsroom/status/1910105151492575611
futurist_wizard: Its gone in the skip, sent to the trash heap, inside the junkyard
zoermena: Not while I’m in public spaces sadly
hikukomoru: No more femboy pfp? 🥀
literallyvarane: Yeah these Grok3 prices feel DOA?
wolf3404: Grok 3 ain’t gone nowhere
futurist_wizard:
.histic: it has almost been two months and today they finally released their API.
zoermena: I think that its hard for other labs to reach the average consumer, most are used to gpt exclusively
futurist_wizard: Grok 3 came and went so fast i forgot it existed
zoermena: but most people dont know how to use their assets to the best of their abilities thus they don't percieve QOL updates beyond image upload
zoermena: still deep research is pretty fucking great though
zoermena: i thought you where a new person my b you are the goat
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Yes
futurist_wizard: Operator and agents are a myth
zoermena: wait are you futurist hill
futurist_wizard: Is better
futurist_wizard: Only thing i can think of is image gen
777agical: me neither, says 3.5 Opus tho <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zoermena: lol
zoermena: maybe you dont know how to use AI
zoermena: deep research, operator, agents preview, image gen, smarter models
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk how to read this
alejandrozarzuelo: Gemini 2.5 is pretty great tho
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