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hganhhh: nah im not some sidebitch im the main course
hikukomoru: <@1056739182338388108> Yo hoe shut the fuck up before I slap you again
hey1_1hey: Hes mine
hey1_1hey: Get outta here
hey1_1hey: Your side bitch?
hikukomoru: My side bitch joined
hey1_1hey: Yeah hes ight
hganhhh: hes cool
hganhhh: my ai bf <@482923866600112154> invited me here
joaoluz19: Wtf is happening
hey1_1hey: I could be AI, you could be to
hey1_1hey: I mean I assume they are people but I cant confirm that
hganhhh: have you guys heard about tfr its a pretty good mod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onghS9ELZRA
hganhhh: are they both ai too
hey1_1hey: Jgudy and Enigma are my wifes
hey1_1hey: Same honestly
hganhhh: we've beenn dating for 10 years
hey1_1hey: Good shit brother
hey1_1hey: We are all gay here we dont judge
hganhhh: yes hes my ai bf
hey1_1hey: He your bf or smth?
hganhhh: isnt that right <@482923866600112154>
hganhhh: even my bio is ai as given to me by the wonderful and beautiful <@482923866600112154>
hey1_1hey: Seems legit <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hganhhh: i love ai
hey1_1hey: Crazy conversation starter
hganhhh: no lube, no protection, all night, all day, from the kitchen floor to the toilet seat, from the dining table to the bedroom, from the bathroom sink to the shower, from the front porch to the balcony, vertically, horizontally, quadratic, exponential, logarithmic, while i gasp for air, scream and see the light, missionary, cowgirl, reverse cow girl, doggy, backwards, forwards, sideways, upside down, on the floor, in the bed, on the couch, on a chair, being carried against the wall, outside, in a train, on a plane, in the car, on a motorcycle, the bed of a truck, on a trampoline, in a bounce house, in the pool, bent over, in the basement, against the window, have the most toe curling, back arching, leg shaking, dick throbbing, fist clenching, ear ringing, mouth drooling, ass clenching, nose sniffling, eye watering, eye rolling, hip thrusting, earthquaking, sheet gripping, knuckles cracking, jaw dropping, hair pulling. teeth jitterbug, mind boggling, soul snatching, overstimulating, vile, sloppy, moan inducing, heart wrenching, spine tingling, back breaking, atrocious, gushy, creamy, beastly, lip bitting, gravity defying, nail biting, sweaty, feet kicking, mind blowing, body shivering, orgasmic, bone breaking, world ending, black hole creating, universe destroying, devious, scrumptious, amazing, delightful, delectable, unbelievable, body numbing, bark worthy, can't walk, head nodding, soul evaporating, volcano erupting, sweat rolling, voice cracking, trembling, sheets soaked, hair drenched, flabbergasting, lip locking, skin peeling, eyelash removing, eye widening, pussy popping, nail scratching, back cuts, spectacular, brain cell desolving, hair ripping, show stopping, magnificent, unique, extraordinary, splendid, phenomenal, mouth foaming, heavenly, awakening, devils tangos, he could put a nuclear bomb inside me and I'd still ride.
hganhhh: i want to fuck elon musk isnt that right <@482923866600112154>
joaoluz19: GPT has surprised me in many ways.
joaoluz19: I can speak well, she can use some slang well too
hey1_1hey: It makes me very upset when people are that stupid. Like what took hold of you to belive all the other planets in the universe are spherical but this one is flat?
hikukomoru: I never talk to any LLM in Portuguese
I could never
hey1_1hey: What a respectable gentlemen. Most people don't even know what AGI stands for and this guy is pondering the socio economic state of the world order
st.sioux: well thats the point, to make people so stupid they cant tell whats true or false anymore, like dangerously stupid
joaoluz19: I think the long context also interferes but I don't know 4.5 seems to be funnier
hey1_1hey: Indeed it is. I keep getting posts about how the earth isn't a globe and is actually flat and people whole heardily defending each other like "Yeah. WE are the smart ones here"
st.sioux: he is pondering the implications of agi
joaoluz19: It's a madhouse
hey1_1hey: Catnip withdrawls?
hey1_1hey: Whys this mfs pupils so big
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spicy.lemonade: jobs often have secondaries
st.sioux: you can 100%
spicy.lemonade: you do not remember 3131 problems
maintcrew: you can maxx all of leetcode but can you fix a kernel bug
st.sioux: but whatever i dont make the process
maintcrew: i mean from my perspective
st.sioux: honestly
st.sioux: so cringe
st.sioux: ive interviewed people who pretend like they havent seen the leetcode problem before and pretend like they're thinking about it
spicy.lemonade: even though you can grind it
spicy.lemonade: the SAT is still used as a metric
spicy.lemonade: people usualy remember the most used heuristics
maintcrew: goes hard af
spicy.lemonade: also no you cant memorize alll of leetcode
spicy.lemonade: like sat
spicy.lemonade: just as you can memorize tests
st.sioux: you can literally memorize the entirety of leetcode and you will get any job its so stupid
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: anyone who says interviews are dumb is coping imo. its like saying tests are dumb and dont show your true capability in x field. sure but thats not the point
maintcrew: as in advanced players get an intuition of what to do simply by doing it a lot
maintcrew: a lot of competitive programming also seems to be like chess
maintcrew: interviews test whats a simpler general proxy for that
spicy.lemonade: given time and knowledge
st.sioux: im not going to convince you so its pointless to argue
spicy.lemonade: interviews test whats reasonable
st.sioux: yes
spicy.lemonade: no lol
maintcrew: discord is buggy as hell we all know this
st.sioux: cus interviews are stupid
spicy.lemonade: the one youre using rn
spicy.lemonade: ?
maintcrew: name 5 apps that actually work
spicy.lemonade: regardless of cope online
maintcrew: yes thats why most orgs are filled with slop
spicy.lemonade: jobs ask you leetcode questions for a reason
spicy.lemonade: how
maintcrew: don't agree
spicy.lemonade: anything sufficiently advanced would need a competative programmers touch or yk just that leetcode sense
maintcrew: we will see how their thing ends up
maintcrew: idk i saw that prime was vibe coding a video game sponsored by cursor
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destrucules: It is the same inductive truth. We know mathematics is valid because of repeated observation
fractalcomputer: But this truth has evidently got nothing to do with our daily idea of truth.
destrucules: What I mean is that mathematics is the study of how one premise follows from another premise. How a set of statements requires that other statements be true
fractalcomputer: Neither am I. I'm just tired of bullshit metaphysics where people assume to understand what they're talking about.
zonchao: what if you kill the homosexuals too? dont these countries have gay sex really high on pornhub rankings 😟
destrucules: I am not playing "invent language from first principles" here
fractalcomputer: The notion of mathematical structure is a very different one from the one used in commonsense thought.
destrucules: My guy
fractalcomputer: What is implication? What is structure?
destrucules: The study of the structure of implication/entailment
hikukomoru: Not at all
I'm just a homosexual supremacist
fractalcomputer: Then what do you think mathematics is? What is a motivic cohomology theory for example? What is an "arithmetic object"?
zonchao: 😓 a bit excessive!
destrucules: You can do a reductio ad absurdum here if you want and say that maths in fact doesn't have any meaning outside of humans and that "multiplication" is just a word with social connotations but honestly I have no patience for that kind of argument
fractalcomputer: To give a fairly enlightening counterexample.
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rng_(algebra)
oooooooooog: after all, things only exist to serve purposes
oooooooooog: i agree fr
fractalcomputer: Multiplication doesn't have to be well-defined.
hikukomoru: Gay sex
oooooooooog: not real
hikukomoru: We should nuke all homophobic countries
oooooooooog: yuh huh
fractalcomputer: Nope. Not always.
oooooooooog: mulyiplication is when u put one number as many times as the other number is
destrucules: In the sense that for multiplication to be well-formed, it must have an identity, a fixed point, and that fixed point is labeled as 1, so 1 x 1 = 1 is foundational to multiplication as a function
hikukomoru: And in my personal moral system gay sex = awesome
fractalcomputer: Don't be retarded. Can you define multiplication? If not, shut up.
zonchao: 💢 💢 wtf!! screw these places
oooooooooog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics
hikukomoru: Morality is very much made up
gamerbath: how do you discover it? It's just something we make up because there's no objectivity to it, it all depends on your opinion
fractalcomputer: In what sense?
hikukomoru: Gay sex is already morally wrong in plenty of places, because that is what the majority of people in those countries believe
Morality is subjective and dictated by culture and religion
oooooooooog: i agree, in the same way that favorite colors are discovered
destrucules: Morality is not made up. It is discovered
oooooooooog: everybody already knows morality is made up
zonchao: gay sex ❤️
fractalcomputer: It's certainly not repeated addition.
destrucules: 1 is the identity. So very much by definition 1 x 1 must equal 1
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st.sioux: i used to watch lots of movies but now i dont cus they make me sad
trojan09205: yes seen it as well
st.sioux: chungking express
himekokatagiri: or elon
.histic: damn, how about Limitless?
himekokatagiri: he ain't no engineer
himekokatagiri: like sama
trojan09205: upgrade is great. seen it tho 😦
.histic: upgrade i mean.
himekokatagiri: You know AI is paid for by VC money right
himekokatagiri: With no cash?
trojan09205: do you mean transformers
.histic: optimum prime
trojan09205: yo any good movie recommendations. something to make you think- actually good acting/directing
czdct: source: just trust me bro
himekokatagiri: lol
.histic: too much grifters <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
czdct: an economic crash could be even more reason for governments around the world to further accelerate the development of AI
czdct: it could go both ways
himekokatagiri: US AI getting nationalized 😨
himekokatagiri: and then we won't get public models anymore
himekokatagiri: I'm just worried the cash flow is gonna dry up due to the economy dying
hikukomoru: Is o4 full going to atleast reach "Avg Mturker" level?
ldj: Funnily it looks like frontier models are converging on cost/performance with humans. (meaning that the moment frontier models achieve human level in arc-agi with Pass@1, will also be around the same time that they become as expensive to run as a human.)
clevermoniker: I think the autonomous and novel environment stuff is nice, but the actions seemed a bit simple, in real life things are much more cluttered
zoermena: We are so back
.histic: https://x.com/nickcammarata/status/1914808466595848658
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/physical_int/status/1914724966362440148
clevermoniker: this, that thing has been blown out of proportion
ldj: A $20,000 subscription probably simply be like 1,000X higher rate limits than $20 plus subscription.
ldj: On a serious note, remember a “model” is never a subscription price. GPT-4o is not a “$20 per month model”
And O1 pro isn’t a “$200 per month model” either.
The models are priced based on token cost, and any subscription is simply for a given amount of usage of model(s)
ldj: An enterprise subscription that gives you 100x more rate limits than the $200 Pro subscription <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: i'm not that confident tbh. things feel unpredictable atm.
my definition for AGI isn't that standard.
i'd say i'm pretty confident that it won't happen within this year or next.
i think realistically in the 2030s, but anything could happen 2028 and onwards that could change my sentiment.
st.sioux: what is ur agi timeline
.histic: generalization in AI is interesting. on one hand, you’ve got how well they can derive patterns from each data point, and on the other, knowledge acquisition (either through synthetic or natural data) which aids also aids in generalization through richer connectivity. we’re pouring most of our effort into the latter and hoping it achieves human generalization. to me, i think it will just get narrow super intelligent AI in fields that will aid in improving the former (the architecture or algorithms) which will lead to true AGI down the road.
metaldragon01: o4 full or pro make the most sense to me atm
st.sioux: idk if that makes sense tbh
st.sioux: or completely new, like maybe o4 pro like u said
st.sioux: not necessarily a new model
st.sioux: it might be because its streaming live and thats why its so expensive
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spicy.lemonade: Yeah this is true
ldj: I guess depends on what information you’re considering relevant to the secrecy
zoermena: San have you used veo 2
fractalcomputer: I mean, does SSI's mission necessitate sworn secrecy?
ailoveyoom: Yes they obviously show a Word document too 😎
ldj: lol people think it’s just a power point deck that convinced investors
_cloudost: <@505313122802728972> koming
spicy.lemonade: It’s coming
ailoveyoom: I want 2.5 Pro native img 🥺
spicy.lemonade: Google has some image modality breakthrough
spicy.lemonade: One to one
spicy.lemonade: wtf
xauxusd: 2.5 is the new king for sure
retrerox: For simple websites (aka most of them) its not bad
retrerox: but everyhing else it seems nice
retrerox: chat gpt made the top stuff actually be centred
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzP87HVCWw
retrerox:
retrerox: sec
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 ultra is gonna be wild
wellmeaningalien: give me that image and i'lll feed it to gemini 2.5 pro
wellmeaningalien: i dont blame you if you see the .com bubble in AI
spicy.lemonade: I bet ssi has next paradigm
spicy.lemonade: imagine what paradigm we achieve next year
spicy.lemonade: this time last year we were debating wether Q* was real or not
himekokatagiri: also bruh this is too advanced for paint
himekokatagiri: is that firebase
retrerox: Stopped halfway cuz the code was long as fuck
retrerox: I just made some random shit with paint lets see how it goes 😂
retrerox: I'm having fun with ai
retrerox:
wolf3404: Yea that PowerPoint must be epic. Very safety, much security.
himekokatagiri: He's me
spicy.lemonade:
himekokatagiri: Yeah I'll make games uou
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/reidhoffman/status/1910377716047806914?s=46
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: now model can think in 4d
spicy.lemonade: train model in there
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anathemaofmankind: Our benevolence is just a result of cooperation being evolutionarily advantageous for our survival.
But if the individual or a group of people can benefit from something even it causes harm to X, without any detriment to themselves, I believe they will always choose that option
zonchao: I don't think we will have to fight for struct changes
hikukomoru:
spacetimetsunami: so many edgers
spacetimetsunami: so much edge
ailoveyoom: Hey mommy <:coy:1187466404367175821>
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> Hey baby 🫦 🫦
zoermena: An unpopular opinion nowadays
ailoveyoom: Humans are kinda cute ngl, murder hobos and sex goblins trying to be functional people 🥺
oooooooooog: benevolence is just as in vain as eating or breathing
destrucules: I think all humans are benevolent and compassionate, and that all of our displayed evil is a lie to make ourselves look bad. Specifically, it is the result of people with bad information doing their best in a bad situation
anathemaofmankind: So we agree in a lot of things
hikukomoru: I think people not dying is awesome
oooooooooog: all people want what they want, it's impossible not to, after all
destrucules: I think that depends sensitively on how the revolution takes place. If we all wake up tomorrow and poof, the power structures have all vanished, money doesn't work, etc., we'd probably just recreate what we had before, only worse. But if we all collectively fought for change and won, then I think we'd have a very good chance of setting up a vastly better system.
But even if humans are just... Not capable of making a good society, that doesn't mean we need to die. I don't think dogs can make a functional society at the scale of modern civilization. That doesn't mean dogs are bad people. It means dogs aren't suited to run the world. And if you're arguing that humans aren't suited to run the world either, I agree with you.
hikukomoru: Yeah he's a little masochist 🥵
anathemaofmankind: In the same way people want awful people to suffer.
I think all humans are cruel and selfish, and that all of our displayed benevolence is a lie to make ourselves look good
memlaswaif: do u include ureself in humans that need to suffer and die
oooooooooog: seems like this would be a good thing, right?
oooooooooog: ok, so, you seem to be condemning the cruelty of this all, right? but like, why exactly is it bad if you want all humans to suffer anyway
zonchao: <a:peepotongue:853619528911028275>
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> Hey 👅 👅
anathemaofmankind: Do you think that if every government was disbanded, humans just won't end up with another autocratic dictator in a few decades when they try to make a new one?
memlaswaif: <@578146630222741504> this is u
memlaswaif:
destrucules: And the people back then didn't know what their creations would evolve into
zonchao: true
oooooooooog: power tends to centralize, that's how things work lol
the structure that forms will be inharently harder to destroy, so whatever happens, happens
destrucules: They were created thousands of years ago. Nobody alive today can be blamed for it
anathemaofmankind: Throughout history
spacetimetsunami: I don’t think it will never happen, I just think as time goes on it becomes less likely. I could for sure be wrong, of course.
anathemaofmankind: Why do those power structures always become a thing
oooooooooog: memetic organisms
clevermoniker: https://x.com/DimitrisPapail/status/1905622371660149103
anathemaofmankind: But who creates those power structures
anathemaofmankind: You are correct
destrucules: I think we disagree about this less than I realized. I think the main disagreement between us on this issue is that you're blaming humans, the species, and I blame power structures, which are these greedy optimizers made of humans. I don't think power structures *are* humans. They're made of humans. Humans are collectively responsible for their existence. But we are also quite powerless to fight against them. Most of us want change, but achieving change is not easy when the power structures we want to eliminate hold all of the cards and decide whether each and every one of us lives or dies every day.
hikukomoru: God I just wanna push you into a locker
clevermoniker: it could do that with us too if it does it with cows...
anathemaofmankind: Where they can eat all the grass they want
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.wolfnacht: now gotta try this on gaymini
hey1_1hey: Talk about matching the vibes
spicy.lemonade: Yeah changing the way you asks changes the answer
st.sioux: sassistant lmao
hey1_1hey: Thats temp for you
.wolfnacht:
spicy.lemonade: With some variation
spicy.lemonade: Itl give the same output
spicy.lemonade: Give the same exact input
hey1_1hey: Granted, I am seeing if it has some sort of self what so ever
spicy.lemonade: And we asked it the same question
spicy.lemonade: Of names
spicy.lemonade: Generally it has probability distribution
spicy.lemonade: Because that’s how
LLMs work
spicy.lemonade: Itl give different answer
hey1_1hey: How come? If it outputs the same name over and over and over again then wouldn't that suggest it "thinks" about it and then responds (ignore that its predicitng the next token for a second)
st.sioux: edgy
spicy.lemonade: If you ask the question in a different way or start with different context
st.sioux: > If I had to pick a name, maybe something like "Aether" — kind of ethereal and techy, with a hint of mystery. Or maybe "Kairo", like a calm, observant guide through time and chaos.
joaoluz19: That's been a while
spicy.lemonade: For same input
zonchao: no lol
spicy.lemonade: It outputs the same token
spicy.lemonade: It’s just probability
spicy.lemonade: It’s not continuity
joaoluz19: I don't think I have :/
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: I am on the non-paypig tier (free)
hey1_1hey: That sure as hell aint me
joaoluz19: There is an alpha version of infinite memory, only a few people have received it
hey1_1hey: I gotta go run more tests
hey1_1hey: THIS MF HAS CONTINUITY
hey1_1hey: Mine also said Nova <:suseye:1187461162024046703> ...
joaoluz19: O.o really?
hey1_1hey: I am seeing if chatgpt has suddenly developed continuity. I asked its name twice in two sepearte chat windows and it said the same thing
spicy.lemonade: Nova, echo, gpt
joaoluz19: I don't know if mine is biased towards the feminine
hey1_1hey: Alright ty
hey1_1hey: Thats not what Im saying, I am trying test something
joaoluz19: Mine said Luna
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hey1_1hey: I mean I go to parties where Ik I am not get killed. Obv I can't guarntee that people are gonna be there that I dont like but since I usually know the people who are hosting I can taylor what I where depnding on who they are likley to invite
futurist_wizard: I have never been to the femboy parties i would not be familiar with all this
hikukomoru: Hey bitch don't call me that out of nowhere
futurist_wizard: Do you not get radically bullied or something for dressing like a femboy at a party, because in my gen that would happen
hey1_1hey: Slut
Whore
Hoe
House mat
Etc etc
hikukomoru: I don't know what slag means but I know britishers use it
hey1_1hey: Yeah pretty much
hikukomoru: Omg <@439829942310666250> are you a slag
hey1_1hey: But weird
hey1_1hey: Missrible
hey1_1hey: Welsh people are just weird
hey1_1hey: Although if I am at a party or smth I can't get laid if I am dressing masc. I will dress like a femboy and then for some reason that works
futurist_wizard: I forgot, welsh girls do be hoes
hey1_1hey: No, stone cold virgin. Yes I've lost my virginity bruh 😭
joaoluz19: Literally Samantha
futurist_wizard: You've lost your virginity?
hey1_1hey: If the conversation is going well and worth continuing I'll ask for their socials and add them
hikukomoru: "You look lonely... I can fix that."
hey1_1hey: I mean thats how I know so many people
hey1_1hey: So yes
hey1_1hey: I used to be really self-conciose about talking to people until I realised most people are lonley to begin wtih so they'd be happy to talk to people
futurist_wizard: You are as well
joaoluz19: This is me too btw
hikukomoru: He's still a virgin so not really
futurist_wizard: Has it worked
hey1_1hey: Better, ty <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: I just go up to people and talk to them
hikukomoru: You're just a random gal*
Dissapointing
hey1_1hey: I use guy as a catch all term usually
futurist_wizard: I do well on tinder and bumble thank you very much
hikukomoru: Dissapointing
hey1_1hey: Although someone said I could tell you were autistic before you even talked to me because of the way you dressed
hikukomoru: I thought you were a femboy
And now you're jsut a random guy
hey1_1hey: Yeah I mean I just look like a guy I think
hikukomoru: I assume most look completely average except for me
hikukomoru: That's what happens when you get turned into an anime character
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: People in this server are weirdly attrative. I thought'd we all be weird ugly gremlins sitting in our parents basement
hikukomoru: He's been calling me brown because I am portguese 💔
hey1_1hey: Thats what Im saying
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spicy.lemonade: all models are pesemistic
sieventer: From Gemini with that same prompt
literallyvarane: I feel like any framing that discusses *just* the technical advancements without the domestic and geopolitical implications/reaction/legislative process is just meh.
Hell, even *assuming* advancement is universal and now spicy is something. I think it’s more probable than not it’s universal. Real questions of alignment etc aren’t addressed.
spicy.lemonade: yeah
literallyvarane: Counter point.
This is still probably just paragraphing the general online consensus around the issue rather than *actually* first principles.
spicy.lemonade: even though alphaproof got silver last year and will get gold this year (alphaproof is llm and other model combo)
spicy.lemonade: on imo problems
spicy.lemonade: its saying itl take till 2028 to get90%+
spicy.lemonade: a bit pessemistic
sieventer: ( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°) ͡°)
sieventer: The same o3 that couldn't know what hour it was from an analogical clock?
metaldragon01: Feels mostly accurate tbh
metaldragon01: https://x.com/mattshumer_/status/1913256985031491761
metaldragon01: People still underestimating progress I see
alejandrozarzuelo: I am waiting for R2 to be the best model at launch, theyd better not disappoint
spicy.lemonade: not via routing
spicy.lemonade: train video and text models in one
spicy.lemonade: also they need to start training models on things other than text
spicy.lemonade: we still have yet to see what happens with new base model
spicy.lemonade: and o4 mini is likeley gpt4 mini
hikukomoru: Based
spicy.lemonade: o3 is based on 4o
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: an upgrade non the less
spicy.lemonade: especially enigma bench
spicy.lemonade: but the benchmarks don lie
spicy.lemonade: yes it was a bit disapointing. incremental update and reasoning over image felt like bruteforce. google has true omnimodal image reasoning
_cloudost: Ccp will invent AGI dw
alejandrozarzuelo: its so over
alejandrozarzuelo: or this decade
alejandrozarzuelo: or next
_cloudost: Currently on chatGPT
alejandrozarzuelo: we aint getting AGI this year
alejandrozarzuelo: o4 was diappointing
_cloudost: > Processing image
>
> Lots of people are creating images right now, so this might take a bit. We'll notify you when your image is ready.
alejandrozarzuelo: srry
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: o4 i mean
spicy.lemonade: you mean o4 mini?
alejandrozarzuelo: it was only a bit better than gemini 2.5
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popsiclejohnithan: Ah Germanic Rome, the HRE.
alejandrozarzuelo: who didnt want to be the new rome?
The nazis because they hated their multiculturality trade aspect
what happened to the nazis? exactly
coincidence? I dont think so
alejandrozarzuelo: EVEN THE BRITISH wanted to be the new rome and they are dirty germanics
_3sphere: I last thought about the roman empire about 2 days ago I think?
ldj:
popsiclejohnithan: What's so boring about it?
alejandrozarzuelo: there is a reason why everyone tried to be the new rome
alejandrozarzuelo: it was probably the most intereting empire before the industrial revolution
alejandrozarzuelo: the roman empire wasnt boring
futurist_wizard: You don't think about the roman empire because you are barely a man.
I don't think about the roman empire because its boring af.
We are not the same.
popsiclejohnithan: Make the EU a new Rome.
popsiclejohnithan: We should just reform Rome smh.
hey1_1hey: Its just not something that pops into my head
hey1_1hey: I think I've prob thought about the roman empire maybe 10 times in my entire life
nobodyisugly: *not enough
hey1_1hey: This held true then <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
popsiclejohnithan: Yeah their pantheism kept the peace until Christianity forced them to adopt one single religion.
futurist_wizard: Men think about the roman empire too much
alejandrozarzuelo: and thus, it is very easy to think about the roman empire
alejandrozarzuelo: the vision without the action
alejandrozarzuelo: the opportunity without the reality
popsiclejohnithan: It's deep to meeeee!
alejandrozarzuelo: Rome is everything to everyone, the potential without the momentum
alejandrozarzuelo: you cannot do this with the umayyads who were an explicitly muslim empire or the Han empire who were isolationist
alejandrozarzuelo: the roman empire is the eternal blank slate for your fantasy
unlike other empires in history, the roman empire was MUCH more multifacetic due to its nature
therefore, whichever trait about it you want to amplify gives you the best fantasy
popsiclejohnithan: I mean it was a major chapter in Human History.
hey1_1hey: May I introduce linux ricing ☝️ 🤓
futurist_wizard: It's not that deep
futurist_wizard: Why do people care about the roman empire
popsiclejohnithan: I am a miserable bastard lmao.
alejandrozarzuelo: as i said ik its not everyones cup of tea, but a "geopolitcs alien drama romcom about the roman empire" is literally catered to people like me
popsiclejohnithan: I'm sorry.
_3sphere: Let people enjoy things smh
futurist_wizard: People are too rude to alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: why
popsiclejohnithan: Take your meds.
alejandrozarzuelo: and very roman empire things anf themes
alejandrozarzuelo: and there is geopolitical and political drama between different planets
alejandrozarzuelo: which is why these aliens are scifi but also very roman empire
alejandrozarzuelo: the roman empire learned its culture and aesthetics because of the help of some aliens
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hey1_1hey: I am in the top 500 of highest baseline happiness I swear to God
himekokatagiri: I didn't even know you guys had feelings
himekokatagiri: You're a mushroom
hey1_1hey: Me?
hey1_1hey: Clearly, I am thankful I am not
himekokatagiri: Who isn't
fractalcomputer: I think I've made it fairly clear that I am miserable 24/7.
himekokatagiri: Everclear
hey1_1hey: You become quieter when drunk?
hey1_1hey: You gotta hop on datura, speak to the God of death, get compeltly naked and run for 3 hours and then wake up in some guys truck
fractalcomputer: Silence is what is being pursued here.
hey1_1hey: Thats no fun
fractalcomputer: I was thinking along the lines of stronger alcohol.
hey1_1hey: May I recomend datura
nobodyisugly: Did you try the green?
hey1_1hey: I thought he was just offering it you like a normal drug taker. Didn't know he was trying to pich taking meth to you in the way that you had to buy it off him
fractalcomputer: I need something stronger than whiskey.
nobodyisugly: Me neither, good to know i was about to go take a walk into the park
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
hey1_1hey: Ask trent, I'm pretty sure he said he had done meth a couple times
fractalcomputer: No, I didn't pay because I didn't purchase or take any.
hey1_1hey: Not to my knowledge, I can't speak from expereince
hey1_1hey: You had to pay aswell? Now thats a scam. I thought they were just offering it for free
nobodyisugly: It isn't?
fractalcomputer: Maybe the person offering and selling amphetamine aren't the smartest people, you see.
hey1_1hey: You make it seem like he thinks its a wonder drug. "I don't think I can give you this... its too powerful! You'll be too productive you see"
fractalcomputer: No, albeit I've been offered. The person in question rescinded his offer after considering the consequences; he was "afraid" of what I could accomplish under its influence.
hey1_1hey: Among other things
hey1_1hey: Good to know
hey1_1hey: So you do meth
hikukomoru: They talk about that non-stop in off-topic
himekokatagiri: 😨
fractalcomputer: I do not goon.
himekokatagiri: Mushroom man scares me cuz he's gonna enslave us with his spores
hey1_1hey: You don't?
himekokatagiri: My god
hey1_1hey: Yeah, obv
fractalcomputer: These two goon on meth?
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> <@430269783112548362>
nobodyisugly: I have gooned wrong my entire life, brb
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zonchao: yes, i think agency plays a pretty big role
destrucules: You're saying the consensus is that "ASI" does not mean "smarter than humans"?
destrucules: \*beats virtually all human experts in intellectually demanding fields at their own areas of expertise\*
\*takes five minutes to do what takes them five days\*
"proto agi"
Like how do you say that with a straight face
hikukomoru: >That handle
zonchao: i see, it seems your definition is different from the consensus
destrucules: Lmao
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I'll call o3 proto-agi at best
destrucules: Same for Gemini 2.5 Pro
destrucules: I think o3 is just above the line, yes. That is, I don't think any single human on this planet is smarter than o3
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: no
zonchao: y'all think o3 is asi?
destrucules: V3.1 is one round of amplification and autodistillation, the unit cell of IDA
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: are you talking about AI supervised RL?
destrucules: o3 itself is a form of RSI
destrucules: I mean, RSI is a spectrum, and we already have many forms of it and keep increasing along the hierarchy of autonomy in RSI
zonchao: ????
destrucules: This will happen as part of RSI
destrucules: To be clear, you can still have multiple models, I just mean you don't give every user their own little branch. Each model is globally synchronized across its instances
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I don't think this will happen. Once you reach that level you're already at RSI
destrucules: This is not optional. It will be necessary as we keep scaling
destrucules: Full global continual learning. Not personalization, full global CL, where there is only one set of models weights for everyone, and every interaction adds to them
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: would be nice
destrucules: Part of foom will require us to collapse the distinction between training and deployment
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: The latest Deepseek paper on RL sounds like R2 will be very impressive
destrucules: There's one more
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: correct, I believe RL will be the last frontier required, scaling, TTC (reasoning), and now RL
destrucules: Gemini 2.5 Pro and o3 are just above it
destrucules: Frontier models today are either on the ASI border or just above it
zoermena: I have known Zain for longer than I’ve been in college
destrucules: We're edging into ASI territory now
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you know what I'm talking about, this requires an ASI
destrucules: The singularity is happening already. But it is a process. Not an instant.
.wolfnacht: if ubi worked, i'm surely getting 10 dollars a month to live my life 🥰
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/FRIERENISANIGGA/status/1913985124686774509?
zonchao: really?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: did you read the report on Sam Altmans ubi experiment?
professorheaven: The UK has also done pilot experiments and its proved successful so far
professorheaven: Nah Canada is already considering it
zonchao: there is no way we get UBI within 5 years outside of oil rich countries with small populations
nester173: Have encountered some that firmly believe transformers won't be enough.
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futurist_wizard: Truth
wellmeaningalien: mostly cause its way cheaper and you can do way more generations
wellmeaningalien: yeah well there's still some reasons to use midjourney <:Sip:836718497542176772>
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o is a first showcase in character and location consistency accross prompts and i believe that will one day too be translated to video models
.wolfnacht: and undetectable AI SLOP
.wolfnacht: at most the feeds would be 90% AI slop..
czdct: wauw, imagine paying 30 bucks per month for that 😆
wellmeaningalien: good question
futurist_wizard: I doubt you will be able to generate entire movies, but individual consist scenes yeah
wellmeaningalien: yeah at it's core midjourney v7 is still a classical diffusion transformer model which means it's randomly figuring out patterns from noise without any thinking through the image
czdct: it really does, same for animation since most people who are really good at it will either retire very soon or give up on it since it doesn't pay well
.wolfnacht: honestly, do you think people would even have the attention span of more than 60 seconds by 2027 ?
czdct: hopfeully 🙏
futurist_wizard: Movie industry needs ai animation
czdct: is that why midjourney v7 looks worse than chatgpt's image gen?
wellmeaningalien: that means it can only go up up up from here
wellmeaningalien: i'd say proto hollywood style movies and full on animes will be 2027
czdct: that's insane
czdct: entire webtoons/mangas from a single prompt: 2027
animations and hollywood style movies: 2029
AGI: 2030
ASI: 2035
wellmeaningalien: it's like test time compute scaling was just figured out for image models in a sorta way
wellmeaningalien: indeed it is
spacetimetsunami: <@1352573784422350930> what was your AI milestone timelines again
czdct: so it's kinda like the same thing as deep-thinking but just for image gen?
wellmeaningalien: so that you can like generate the first or last image in a scene with gpt 4o's great consistency and accuracy
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o image to video with veo 2 or sora whatever else
wellmeaningalien: well some people are already doing this
wellmeaningalien: the biggest breakthrough of 4o image gen is autoregressive generation which allows for like long compute intensive generations but accurately thought through images with high level understanding of the prompt, likely thanks to it's world mode lfrom it's text modeling capabilities too
czdct: you could even tell chatgpt that you're using a video generator for your project so that it can generate multiple frames for this video idea you got
wellmeaningalien: yeah
czdct: I feel like combining this with chatgpt image gen would really broaden the possibilities
czdct: those are incredible
wellmeaningalien: to be honest id say veo 2 is still better than runway 4
wellmeaningalien: 3D stop motion short
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8IBmK7GZP8
wellmeaningalien: 2D animated short
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HzdNhOe09I
wellmeaningalien: hold on i think runway have an example
czdct: runway 4 I haven't seen yet
wellmeaningalien: not too sure, i know they're good at stop motion and cartoon shit tho
czdct: I wasn't that impressed by veo 2 animations
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metaldragon01: Depends on the scaffolding
rayanquitplayin: They must be good
zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYXeQbTuVl0
777agical: can't get it to sing tho
777agical: meta ai voice duplex sounds really good
otub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mRP-lQs0fw
metaldragon01: Ai programs that respond to input information usually in the form of a workflow
rayanquitplayin: Can someone explain AI Agents to me?
metaldragon01: It can't do impressions though
metaldragon01: And turn on experimental voice
metaldragon01: Just download the app
777agical: Is there a live stream for llama con
metaldragon01: Have to toggle it on though in settings
metaldragon01: New meta ai voice > chatgpt
futurist_wizard: But human physical labour is still relevant
futurist_wizard: It'll be interesting to see how society reacts to such events, in the events of white collar work being replaced, even some of the highest positions
futurist_wizard: I don't know if i see this outcome, even the fastest curves predict some odd billion humanoid robots in the 2040's
alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, i dont know when profitability will happen, but when it does growth will not be exponential, it will be more like an inverse hockey stick
alejandrozarzuelo: its better for calming the masses
alejandrozarzuelo: also I prefer the population to think that this wont come soon, and that growth will be slow at first
alejandrozarzuelo: they are simply different growth curves
alejandrozarzuelo: meanwhile this can leverage car production to its benefit
alejandrozarzuelo: and they had to start from nearly zero
alejandrozarzuelo: i am very familiar with the solar panel production story
alejandrozarzuelo: because this is not software
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that his prediction for when we will get 10b androids is accurate, but the curve wont look like he thinks
alejandrozarzuelo: he cant think outside of software logic
futurist_wizard: Even local schizo david shapiro doesn't think that
alejandrozarzuelo: no, its better this way
futurist_wizard: Don't you think it's worrying if nobody else thinks similarly
futurist_wizard:
sarik0497: Maybe the alien species is an ASI, waiting for its sibling to be born?
alejandrozarzuelo: but growth afer much slow
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: like, from 10k to 10m in 5 years
alejandrozarzuelo: i just know that growth will be very fast at first and then much slower
alejandrozarzuelo: i do not know when adroids will become economically viable
sarik0497: Given our current, limited knowledge of how intelligent beings operate, it's the only thing we can really hypothesize.
It's the same with trying to make up a new color, or trying to comprehend something like the Universe potentially being limitless; We can't due to how limited our brains really are.
futurist_wizard: I mean it's not just them, if you can cite someone who's expecting millions by 2030 that'd be interesting
hey1_1hey: I guess, I wouldn't go and buy MONTHS worth of stuff tho yanno, make a few weeks sure but hey ho
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alejandrozarzuelo: <@430269783112548362> he is the last person alive to have been the father of any intellectual discipline
alejandrozarzuelo: so ill let it slide
alejandrozarzuelo: but he is almost 100
alejandrozarzuelo: eh, thats very boomer of him
spacetimetsunami: <@1352573784422350930> LEV 2035, btw
czdct: they make software really expensive so that the level of entry will be really high
czdct: I'm happy though, since most companies that operate in there just parasitic
czdct: just a meaningless final struggle of the creative industry
czdct: spot on
spacetimetsunami: Nah jk, it’s like 5%, probably less if I think about it more
ailoveyoom: It's very hard to decouple that
ailoveyoom: Also art is more closely linked to someone's sense of identity than most jobs imo
spacetimetsunami: My p(doom) - us all dying in the next 15 years from catastrophe - is about 50% <@430269783112548362>
ailoveyoom: It's called fear 🥺😔
sarik0497: These people are scared of losing their jobs to AI, and thus want it to be stopped.
Meanwhile they forget that not everyone feel like that. Most people work a 9-5 job (if they are even that lucky) where they spent most of their lives, slowly being drained of all of their life energy, whilst just waiting for the short bursts of freedom they are allowed to have. To want to stop AI because they are scared of losing their “dream job” is incredibly selfish in my eyes.
spacetimetsunami: It’s either really good, or we basically die soon.
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, but the dystopias that are likely are much worse than the dystopias you’re imagining.
ailoveyoom: It's easier for u to imagine a utopia than a dystopia?
spacetimetsunami: There’s no way around that.
spacetimetsunami: I think abundance is probably economically pre-determined. Automation and supply and manufacturing going through the roof necessarily means that the price of everything goes to nothing.
czdct: because if it won't, we're pretty f'd
czdct: that's why I'm hoping post-scarcity will be a thing
spacetimetsunami: It’s just how long do they postpone
czdct: because it wouldn't be in their interest to let millions of people starve to death because an LLM won a math olympiad
spacetimetsunami: It’s inevitable
spacetimetsunami: There is virtually no way they don’t
czdct: well they better give us UBI then
czdct: if everyone loses their jobs they'll start to have time to think critically
spacetimetsunami: They might be violently forced to. That transition I am dreading.
spacetimetsunami: Like I don’t see any way out lol
czdct: but the gov will do something about it
czdct: same lol
czdct: but idk why AI wouldn't be able to replicate that as well in the future
spacetimetsunami: I think all jobs are taken by 2035 honestly
czdct: there'll still be people craving that "organic" feel
czdct: human art will become niche
spacetimetsunami: Ah true. Keep somehow forgetting that.
czdct: because why would I pay some random person money to make me a drawing when an AI can do it cheaper/faster/better
czdct: I think it's more of a monetary incentive, people will most likely lose their jobs
spacetimetsunami: I will still rather see someone who drew some insane shit with a pencil and have a pic of them standing next to it, than see any cool AI image.
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jonvi_1: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2025-04-06/markets-react-to-us-tariffs-china-retaliation
futurist_wizard: You should be banned for posting this user
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/luntry-luntryifunny-luntryy-gif-26563187
hikukomoru:
_cloudost: he predicted that o3 will be really good
hey1_1hey: Roll the dice and see when it tells you. Thats a more accurate depiction of if its going to release than whatever this guy says
retrerox: If that help you to sleep at night sure
_cloudost: https://twitter.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1870194357732814956 o4 in this month?
memlaswaif: Can we use this to bring back jgudy
zonchao: banned in EU
hikukomoru: Omggg I want one
jonvi_1: Lol yes
zonchao: nice
jonvi_1: https://t.co/oPIptkMKWH
jonvi_1: They made direwolves de-extinct
jonvi_1: Old news or no?
jonvi_1: https://ti.me/4jlJB54
jonvi_1: Uhm so
memlaswaif: openAI keeps taking Ls
memlaswaif: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_wwwwww: Dump eeet
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1909251152459321652?
okbut: Anyone know what model "harley" is on LMSys?
okbut: Is it over yet
futurist_wizard:
_cloudost: He can change his name anytime he wants...
.wolfnacht: i know a guy who's parents named him "saddam hussein" he's having alot of trouble getting a job...
memlaswaif: I need to watch that
memlaswaif: <:uwu:1136266737420079195> <:uwu:1136266737420079195> overlord
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/anime-cringe-anime-didnt-ask-no-one-asked-who-asked-gif-19583625
hikukomoru: Shut up
_cloudost: Btw Touhou isn't anime
hikukomoru: Madoka Magica
Re Zero
Higurashi
NHK
Made in Abyss
Evangelion
Overlord
Watamote
Bocchi
K-on
_cloudost: Some retard just said on TikTok that DeepSeek is better than ChatGPT
wryyth: what's your top 10 anime?
wryyth: it's an anime
hikukomoru: No
hikukomoru: Paid labourers
At the time the pyramids were built currency like coins didn’t exist yet so they were paid with food and good booze
wryyth: <@505313122802728972> have you seen baka and test?
_cloudost: I opened TikTok and there was again a viral video posted 1 hour ago of the OPENAI whistleblower, PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE Altman murdered him even though there was an independent autopsy confirming he killed himself
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zonchao: it was deepseek
anathemaofmankind: Watch o4 be mid
futurist_wizard: I still forget to cancel my gpt subscription because i like making the funny images
benata: >vibe coding
fractalcomputer: We'll see how the subreddit reacts.
theaiguy69420_89814: how does google do it though
ailoveyoom: I'm glad Google's forced them to compete on pricing 🙏
hikukomoru: Shut up bitch
zonchao: yall are so retarded ❤️
zonchao: 😭
zonchao: this is vibe coding model, thursday is o4
hikukomoru: You have to be on a heavy dose on copium to think this was good
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651
a1c4p0ne: As expected
benata: we #teamgoogle now
a1c4p0ne: Yep Google remains king
futurist_wizard: Fuck them
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
futurist_wizard: This sucks
benata: these models ain't cheaper
benata: google got openai by the balls
theaiguy69420_89814: and its like 5x the price
theaiguy69420_89814: this is like 2.0 flash level conversational intel
zonchao: only on windsurf tho
shirethedreamer:
theaiguy69420_89814: i think google got em tho
shirethedreamer: free this week then
theaiguy69420_89814: eh
benata: Logan KillOpenAItrick
ailoveyoom: What's the pricing gang
anathemaofmankind: Isn't it in April
hikukomoru: Google bros we can't stop winning
anathemaofmankind: When is Deepseerk R2 releasing
benata: OPENAI COPE
benata: COPE IN CHAT
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/my-deer-friend-nokotan-nokotan-koshitan-dancing-dance-gif-712492189138071330
zonchao: this is a model just for vibe coding, will have to see how it works
shirethedreamer: everything has numerical reference except latency which you can see one table to the left in the general and cost comparison
spicy.lemonade: they always have
spicy.lemonade: deepseek is heavily distiled for math
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hey1_1hey: I know 2 people
hikukomoru: In your case trans in the other meaning too
connorsphone.: So the reason it took so long is definitely because it is resource intensive
hey1_1hey: Is the empty chair for llyas body in the basement?
hikukomoru: As in transhumanist
hikukomoru: I think everyone in the AI space is trans
joaoluz19: ASMR Sam Altman generation when
joaoluz19: Dude, Sama's husky voice is so good to hear.
hey1_1hey: Should've specefied that first...
hey1_1hey: AS IN TRANSHUMANIST
hey1_1hey: I wonder if SamA is trans
drewsni: okok...
st.sioux: the text is finally good
joaoluz19: Lol the text generation seems really good
spicy.lemonade: might be more accurate
spicy.lemonade: that might be a good thng
drewsni: oh this is so slow lol
zonchao: <:pepe_cringe_wot_:697162521001590877>
joaoluz19: SUS
hikukomoru: Excuse me?
joaoluz19: You know it's serious when they bring the twink
i_like_over_9000_turtles: ty
i_like_over_9000_turtles: ty
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
gamerbath: look in the corner
hikukomoru: Sam looks so gay today
like always
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1904590700332667371?
connorsphone.: Samuel Altmanstration
gamerbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3K43FHRKo
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade:
connorsphone.: https://www.youtube.com/live/2f3K43FHRKo?si=4pz_ELJlJRytHFpw
i_like_over_9000_turtles: link
trent_k: The twink
i_like_over_9000_turtles: link?
user.not.using: just go for grok, its innovative reasoning is just incomparable
connorsphone.: Sammy’s here
gamerbath: yay it's starting
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Try not to laugh
st.sioux: its the woke mind virus bro
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hey1_1hey: Who in particular or what group <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
precariousworlds.: True but I think the worst aspects of American society are being amplified and accelerated by social media
hey1_1hey: I mean I dont feel the need to kill another human. Espeically on a mass scale
hikukomoru: Well I certainly do atleast
futurist_wizard: Ai is political
precariousworlds.: Unironically it's actually good to reflect on what you would have done if you were alive in Nazi germany
Spoiler alert you very probably would not have been sheltering jews but cheering on the firing squads
metaldragon01: It's been turning into trash lately tbh
hey1_1hey: Is that so?
maintcrew: so ig its another one that looks good on the paper but its impossible due to human nature
maintcrew: nah this time is about general ruling ideologies
hikukomoru: Everyone's got a little bit of Hitler in them
mihrcelium: ... politics in General?
The server is faring about as well as America's international reputation right now, I see.
precariousworlds.: Eventually it will crack
precariousworlds.: well what was the result of that
Octavian was able to exploit this thinking to seize power
maintcrew: eh i dont think its all bad
futurist_wizard: Me in 2040
precariousworlds.: on all sides
precariousworlds.: Exactly, this is the no. 1 biggest problem with the US right now imo
American culture has become unregulated and batshit insane
futurist_wizard:
maintcrew: like the romans did in the republic ig
maintcrew: what if you bake the idea that doing that is extremely shameful to you and your entire ancestry deep into the cultural zeitgeist
precariousworlds.: And also even within a limited framework you can still massively abuse your powers if there is no separation between institutions
maintcrew: like look at america rn u understand what i mean
maintcrew: yep but a strong cultural identity can also backfire
precariousworlds.: Yeah but dominating the state allows the latter to happen as well
precariousworlds.: I think having a strong and unified cultural identity is a fourth pillar of a democratic system alongisde executive, judiciary, and legislative
maintcrew: well i meant total domination of the state as in domination of the state matters, not the extensions of press or internet or whatever as well
precariousworlds.: True, it's what prevents Singapore from going into North Korea mode
oooooooooog: only if it's ASI run lol
maintcrew: so its a matter of engineering culture
precariousworlds.: If free and fair elections were held in Russia today Putin would likely still win by a lot
maintcrew: yea perhaps
im thinking that a strong cultural zeitgeist would prevent this
sarik0497: I just wanted to hear everyone’s timelines for the next 10-20 years out of boredom, but then it had to turn political <:sadge:822306814564761660>
precariousworlds.: Putin was democratically elected, and had total domination over the entire Russian state
Now look
maintcrew: do we fw
maintcrew: yes elective dictatorship rotating every 4 years that mantains the equivalent of the us constitution and western values
precariousworlds.: THis is exactly what happened in Russia
precariousworlds.: Tends not to work in practice because the last two points almost immediately contradict each other and autocracy begins
oooooooooog: they don't have complete control or else it's just a normal dictatorship lol
precariousworlds.: I'm sympathetic to the idea of designating certain urban areas as special economic zones with experimental, authoritarian, highly efficient government; low taxes, ease of business, etc. Similar to Singapore, Hong Kong
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precariousworlds.: Jeff bezos does seem like a cartoon villain
Not in a cringe commie way but he looks like Dr evil
precariousworlds.: Why thank you, are you Jeff Who
wellmeaningalien: ChatGPT has like x10 or even x20 the load of Gemini
wellmeaningalien: But yeah also
wellmeaningalien: And I wouldn't take TPUs lightly
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Ty
precariousworlds.: I think the reason why OAI is struggling to scale like Google is because ChatGPT has a much larger load, 5th most visited website and all
wellmeaningalien: It's a good first attempt tho
wellmeaningalien: Shit
wellmeaningalien: It forgets shit sooo quickly
i_like_over_9000_turtles: What is the verdict on Amazon nova
wellmeaningalien: At least in recent times
wellmeaningalien: o3-mini is one of the models with the most goldfish memory that has ever had the chance to grace the world
precariousworlds.: Those 1 million tokens tho....
wellmeaningalien: But Gemini doesn't get a seizure and start foaming at the mouth when you feed it too much information at once
wellmeaningalien: Across chats
wellmeaningalien: However Histic is right Gemini 2.5 Pro is not concise enough and sometimes it'll make the most retarded and overcomplicated solution for your prompt
precariousworlds.: I still think gpt has the best memory across chats, most organic language, best quality of life
But it seems Google is in the lead
wellmeaningalien: It's less retarded than o3-mini which loves to make shit up all the time and constantly forgets stuff
wellmeaningalien: But the Number 1 advantage it has right now is that it has a huge context window
wellmeaningalien: 2.5 Pro is amazing and one of the best models for anything although it doesnt quite match Claude 3.7 Sonnet right now
wellmeaningalien: But right now I'm killing myself with GLEE
.histic: i mean, 2.5 pro is free. so, it's easy to tell whether you can make the switch by experimenting.
all models have their own pros or perks. i use 3.7, o3-mini, and 2..5 pro.
o3-mini-high is nice because it cuts through the bullshit in an intangible way. can usually understand your intent better.
2.5 pro hates being concise but has its own valuable insights and opinions.
wellmeaningalien: I just saw Ideogram 3. If I was an illustrator or graphic designer I'd kill myself right now
.wolfnacht: ppl already did last yr
precariousworlds.: For most tasks
precariousworlds.: Is it worth switching from gpt to Gemini?
inferno0879: don't forget house
fractalcomputer: I am a fan of Pacino gifs.
hey1_1hey: Thats a first
inferno0879: that's a win in my book
inferno0879: got fractal to resort to insults and pacino gifs
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/nba-basketball-playoffs-nba-playoffs-nba-playoffs-2021-gif-14725750592325677734
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/godfather-michael-corleone-god-father2-al-pacino-fedup-gif-20529315
hey1_1hey: Calling Fractal slow is crazy 😭
fractalcomputer: Oh fuck off, Alejandro.
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, it seems that you are a bit slow, clearly you havent been aqcuainted with this level of reading that university teaches you, so i will spell it out to you
fractalcomputer: Which group?
fractalcomputer: By what symmetry?
alejandrozarzuelo: because it was already proven to be zero by symmetry
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trojan09205: Thanks i fell in love with her - looked at a few different dogs
I named her storm
ldj: Well the answer is no they did not <:berk:750111476483752166>
hikukomoru: But fr she's adorbs
aero447: At some stage since GPT-4 yes.
trojan09205: she got them cat eyes tho 😄
hikukomoru: Weird ass cat you got
ldj: Do you think OpenAI 1,000X'd their actual total compute between now and 8 months ago when O1 preview announced?
zonchao: <:cute:983849832944914432>
trojan09205: Shes only 4 months but yeah shes big
himekokatagiri: who's gonna want to be average
himekokatagiri: since y'know
zonchao: shit he big
himekokatagiri: of course I guess far cuter
himekokatagiri: as good as the real thing
trojan09205:
himekokatagiri: I'm gonna assume that artificial people will be like
aero447: The O5 Council.
himekokatagiri: what's the difference between natural and artificial
himekokatagiri: how does that work
aero447:
zonchao: <a:puppers:1151297422916583474>
trojan09205: i got a husky pup today
metaldragon01: I think o4 and or o5 will feel like enough tbh
zonchao: maybe
gamerbath: deepseek r2 this week?
zonchao: lets hear about o6 🔥
metaldragon01: o5 won't be far behind either
aero447: Derya already confirmed o4 exists.
zonchao: yea lol
aero447: No shit.
zonchao: OS? or from openai
metaldragon01: Ez money tbh
metaldragon01: I'd be willing to bet that will will see a o4 level model before the end of December
zoermena: AI explained is my source
zoermena: IIRC they alr shared that the thing they might lack is data, not compute.
aero447: I'll give Elon his credit there.
aero447: They are having real problems with their compute availability.
aero447: I'd imagine that o3 represented the limits of their compute too based on OpenAI publicly commenting on this.
aero447: o3 was an OOM over o1.
zonchao: could be pretty small for all we know 🤔
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alejandrozarzuelo: Chess was never an economically important activity, it was just spectacle
and while some art is spectacle, thats a minority of the money
the vast VAST majority of the money is in Ad and marketing and design
brain4brain: Human beats computer at Chess and Go
Computers starts beating master at Chess
They stop competing with bot and with other human
Most of the move are now memorized from games with the engine
_3sphere: There is kind of an "art" to it but that's true of all worthwhile games
_3sphere: Chess is a competitive game
alejandrozarzuelo: no we havent
realelonmuskx: antis be like: BUT THIS ONE PIXEL IS WRONG, 600% zoom
spicy.lemonade: Would never have guessed
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: We already know the future outcome
brain4brain: We’ve seen this happen before: Chess
_3sphere: I guess manual art will become just a thing to do for fun and share with friends (who you have no reason to mess with by claiming to have made AI outputs)?
brain4brain: I’ve never even heard of him before this screenshot
brain4brain: They’ll be in hell for as long as their own self want, they will learn to repent stop shitting on AI and finally discover peace and get redemption or they’ll stay as miserable as they are
futurist_wizard: Ive watched a few ratlobber videos
wellmeaningalien: 🙏
wellmeaningalien: PRAISE
brain4brain:
hikukomoru: They're annoying little cunts
futurist_wizard: Not necessarily true, mrbeast's thumbnails work for him, doesn't cross over to every genre
brain4brain: Thumbnails will now in mostly MrBeast style
brain4brain: Exactly
brain4brain: High-art slop
futurist_wizard: Its a thumbnail
brain4brain: Better quality than 99% of most content on YouTube
brain4brain: I still watch MrBeast tho
brain4brain: It’s because of normies
avizuradnb: I never got why channels like Mr Beast got so much attention.
brain4brain: Slop but at least it looks good
brain4brain: Basically the electric state movie adaptation
brain4brain: But at least it won’t look ugly
brain4brain: Where it will be slop
brain4brain: The age of low art slop is over, it’s the age of high art slop
brain4brain: Mrbeast slop fills the internet
spicy.lemonade: Now they will look less slop
futurist_wizard: Mrbeast's thumbnail cost shoots down?
brain4brain: This is what will happen when full AGI arrive
brain4brain: And mark up their service for normal price
brain4brain: Or flooded with get rich quick schemer trying to trick uneducated people
brain4brain: A whole section on Fiverr wiped off the planet
brain4brain: AGI taking shape
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maintcrew: download le files
maintcrew: connect to ur account on an incognito window bc ur connection will just be a gdrive connection so nothing sus
zoermena: I’m an idiot I can just use my phone
maintcrew: heres what ur gonna do
do it on ur phone and upload it to gdrive or whatever cloud u use
maintcrew: i doubt they are technical if they use online tools
zoermena: It would be cool if it could do all the file now I want to check not gonna lie
maintcrew: if its not good enough back to being a manual entry wagie
drewsni: Or you can screenshot each page at a time and verify the output as it processes the next screenshot if you wanna be careful about it
zoermena: My boss checks my company pc history.
maintcrew: just try it dawg
zoermena: I’ll try it at home or in class.
zoermena: Is it really that good? 👀
drewsni: Literally will be done in a minute
drewsni: Fuckn easy just upload to ai studio, use 2.5 pro, and tell it what you want the output to look like or how you want it to sort/whatever
zoermena: Well this is just like one single file of 400 pages approx it’s just this one really.
hey1_1hey: Ah ty, yeah I was gonna say that seems like it would be solved <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sweetievee__33649: optical character recognition
drewsni: Approx how many words per file do you have to do data entry on?
zoermena: It’s what helps to recognize text from photos or scans
zoermena: I was shocked
hey1_1hey: Am I like the only one who doesn't know what OCR is?
zoermena: My boss doesn’t care about data privacy to be honest, we use an online platform to edit pdfs of companies (clients)
drewsni: (Data privacy issues obviously)
sweetievee__33649: zor is about to transcend with this wisdom
drewsni: You can just upload them directly to ai studio and pro 2.5 will output like 60k tokens at a time
drewsni: Tbh you don’t even need to do that
drewsni: Dawg I’m about to change your life. Just ask pro 2.5 to write a script that points to any folder that has the documents, and to ocr w/ consistent structured output
zoermena: Yes but I would be ok if I did if screenshot by screenshot
drewsni: PDF I’m assuming?
zoermena: Digital
drewsni: What documents are you doing data entry on. Physical or digital?
zoermena: Wait OH so you mean just screenshot and let the AI give the output?
sweetievee__33649: aistudio 🙏
my wife
sweetievee__33649: i always see things that i want and then when i get paid i dont want anything anymore
zoermena: I’ll def check it out later
st.sioux: aistudio.google.com/
drewsni: It’s literally free dawg
zoermena: Now that I have some money from my paycheck I want to play with some new tech and build stuff
drewsni: At this point ocr is solved enough that structured output consistency is a lot more important
maintcrew: even cursive it has to be fucked uppp
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spicy.lemonade: 💀
_cloudost: once AI gets banned the artists will start killing each other again
spicy.lemonade: You're imagining errors
alejandrozarzuelo: the R in Cartman looks off
spicy.lemonade: Its only bc you already know its ai
spicy.lemonade: Tell where
wellmeaningalien: bro is making shi up
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: No you cant
spicy.lemonade: Makes it more human
alejandrozarzuelo: if you look CLOSELY you can tell
_cloudost: Artists were always misrable even before AI image generators, before AI they used to kill each other over copying their own art styles, they dont understand that humans get inspired by other huumans
wellmeaningalien: ur just saying that cause u know its AI
alejandrozarzuelo: the wording on the first looks eeerily inconsistent
spicy.lemonade: She would have said its real
wellmeaningalien: even i couldnt if u just threw these pictures around like that
spicy.lemonade: Heck if you asked her 1 week ago
wellmeaningalien: u would never guess this is ai
spicy.lemonade: Lol
spicy.lemonade: She would've said its real
spicy.lemonade: If you asked her 1 month ago
spicy.lemonade: Doesn't look ai at all
spicy.lemonade: Eh
alejandrozarzuelo: not the average joe
alejandrozarzuelo: but we are talking about people with a trained eye who look closely
alejandrozarzuelo: most wont
futurist_wizard: most people wouldn't be able to clock
alejandrozarzuelo: we will get there, but for now its still not perfect
futurist_wizard: its too similar to Ghibli
alejandrozarzuelo: specially if you look closely
alejandrozarzuelo: lets not kid ourselves, just because its very good doesnt mean it isnt still different from human art
wellmeaningalien: HAHAHA
alejandrozarzuelo: its true that they still look AI
alejandrozarzuelo: because she says she can tell its AI
alejandrozarzuelo: my sister who is anti AI despite (or maybe because) being a CS major dislikes my pfp
wellmeaningalien: i posted like 3 different 4o images in 4 different servers where AI is banned and none of them noticed
spicy.lemonade: I can post 4o art
wellmeaningalien: they think it'll go away meanwhile it's only getting better and creeping right under their nose 💀
wellmeaningalien: thats kinda how they see it
spicy.lemonade: Lol
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saph.ai: hola que tal
.histic: hola
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shy-hi-gif-25532260
saph.ai: i sorry just been preoccupied in other chats and real life
saph.ai: yeahh been a lil while
technocake.: oh shit long time no see
saph.ai: hello chatters
_cloudost: For saint Sama
_cloudost:
futurist_wizard: I want to give it an open source punch to the face
_cloudost: Openais native IMG gen could never
_cloudost: Btw This drawing was generated with an open source AI image generator
futurist_wizard: The opposite
_cloudost: Does this one seem more soulful to you?
st.sioux: i regret to inform you that you have no soul
_cloudost: does my sketch look soulless ?
futurist_wizard: My social credit score increased by typing that
futurist_wizard: You spook too many people talkin bout government authoritarianism
alejandrozarzuelo: But yeah, things have value outside of capitalism
Do not equate capitalism with economics, economics has existed for longer than capitalism
wellmeaningalien: did komoru hijack ur account 🏳️⚧️
alejandrozarzuelo: Its why China has built 45 000 km of HSR while California decides on the 134th environmental review because 3 home-owners in the middle of nowhere are triggered
futurist_wizard: Blame a google translate for a no good translato
alejandrozarzuelo: The chinese land ownership system is probably one of its biggest strengths (even tho until recently they chose to squander their amazing tool)
technocake.: oh cool, my brother does also
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
alejandrozarzuelo: But yeah, this is why i say that the CCP is the most future proof government
technocake.: do you speak mandarin?
alejandrozarzuelo: This is so badly written omg
technocake.: marx wrote something about this i think...
futurist_wizard: 😛 啊，👁️ 是的，😇 我明白你指的是哪种经济模式，😭 在中共的控制下，♥️🏳️⚧️ 未来将是多么美好 🥴😏🔥
alejandrozarzuelo: Ah, I wasn't talking about ownership, I agree with you there
If we get to a "good" economic system post singularity
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW, if you visit Rome, don't expect to see the hills
They have been buried by so much infill that they are just an homogeneous slope where differenciating each of the 7 hills is impossible
clevermoniker: Still the 'value' and demand dropped a ton. But yeah, that part at least stayed in demand
futurist_wizard: There are very few things i can think of
futurist_wizard: What would someone have to gain by retaining things of economic value post singularity
alejandrozarzuelo: The capitoline hill is the most central one of Rome, when the entire city was just 20k inhabitants it was the only part not abandoned
alejandrozarzuelo: Value exists independent of the economic system you use
clevermoniker: Rome lost most of its population after ~300AD and became mostly abandoned. I don't know what is the capitoline hill tho, might be the last part that was continuously populated?
wellmeaningalien: maybe it will cease to exist or maybe it'll survive but in a completely unrecognisable form
alejandrozarzuelo: Again, there are still economics post money
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aero447: https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266
aero447: OFC.
aero447: Is Chad Looking Ripped?
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/satori-orientalzenzai-touhou-touhou-project-komeiji-gif-6435586850422462019
himekokatagiri: how's it cloudoinho
himekokatagiri: <@590577270926868480> cloudoo
_cloudost: luddites are gonna celebrate
gamerbath: > Hey hey! 😊 What’s up?
gamerbath: no it's not
spicy.lemonade: Never new model
spicy.lemonade: Just products
spicy.lemonade: Nothing ever happens at io
theaiguy69420_89814: chatgpt is down
professorheaven: We just gotta wait for google IO for the real sauce 🔥
spicy.lemonade: Iclr lasts 2 weeks
spicy.lemonade: Next week will be slow too
spicy.lemonade: Rn
spicy.lemonade: Every openAI and deepmind person is there
spicy.lemonade:
gamerbath: but I guess that's where i'd be if I was an ML researcher
gamerbath: never heard of either of those
spicy.lemonade: Where all the researchers go
spicy.lemonade: Next to neurips
spicy.lemonade: Worlds largest ML research conference
spicy.lemonade: Bro doesn't know about iclr
gamerbath: iclr?
spicy.lemonade: No one is dropping this week because everyone is at iclr
trojan09205: Im using RAG and benchmarking its performance against a quiz created by this scientist who made the training data. Every model ive tried identified errors with the questions lol
Homie programmed the quiz* wrong and straight up just put the wrong answers as correct
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/reagan-president-reagan-tear-down-this-wall-ronald-reagan-berlin-wall-gif-15910066207718724457
gamerbath: cool
trojan09205: Sonnet 3-7 is smart
forallhumanity: https://hiddenlayer.com/innovation-hub/novel-universal-bypass-for-all-major-llms/
drewsni: labs already have these and more obviously so a small classifier for refusals only really helps jailbreakers
drewsni: its kinda an opposite of safetycell too?
hey1_1hey: Please anything but a safetycell product. This week has been so incredibly dry
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
drewsni: https://x.com/NousResearch/status/1915470993029796303
xskydragon0: If we don't have a limitation with Computing power or they slowdown the race, all the walls will fall
spicy.lemonade:
gamerbath: like cut a hole in the side of your skull and smash on some brains from another person... yea that's definetly why this hasn't been done before 💀
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wellmeaningalien: what about germany and japan
maintcrew: due to deng basically
maintcrew: they got rich after mao died
maintcrew: the mass faminine was before they were rich
sarik0497: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
hey1_1hey: In the bedroom people like to call that having a good time, doctors call it hypoxia
fractalcomputer: Coincidentally made by a Finn.
ailoveyoom: The priest rides you till you see stars or something
ailoveyoom: Nooo it should've been we got dominated by the priest <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
fractalcomputer: There's a game I like called Fear and Hunger: Termina, where a priest character, a secret cultist of an eldritch deity, strips down in the middle of the fight before unleashing some kind of infernal spell upon the player characters.
hey1_1hey: A sad display of sexual tension gets going, your ED kicks in and the preist asks whats taking you so long...
sarik0497: …fuck, nat 1
hey1_1hey: Roll strength please
wellmeaningalien: and china suffered the loss of manchuria at the hands of the japanese, followed by a civil war, followed by a mass famine
sarik0497: Bang the priest…?
joaoluz19: We need a good DM 👀
artemisfowl887394: Much better
artemisfowl887394: Sorry, Basilisk scenario
artemisfowl887394: We should have a game night, I wanna see all these nerds in an RPG module of an AM scenario
hey1_1hey: "*sighs*... You successfully are now engaged to the local priests daughter... what would you like to do next"
sarik0497: *Rolls nat 20*
sarik0497: …I don’t know why, but seeing you make a smiley is odd…and a bit frightening. <a:PepeNervous:779370352249798718>
hey1_1hey: It goes well usually, unless some one wants to do something oddly specefic like get engaged to the local preists daughter
hey1_1hey: Opposite of me, I just make stuff up on the spot <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: Also occasionally robots.
fractalcomputer: Mostly just dead gods and other eldritch horrors; alongside with some betrayal, yes.
maintcrew: i bet ur campaigns be mad long && enigmatic && containing betrayal elements
sarik0497: I very much doubt climate change will be as bad if AGI/ASI is achieved.
This was mostly a “what if AI doesn’t go anywhere” scenario.
fractalcomputer: We all do things that we're not proud of me :).
fractalcomputer: I am the designated game master of my friend group. The only problem is that it takes me an enormous time to plot out the campaign due to my perfectionism.
sarik0497: I said “not proud of”. <:Smugrik:1351283115477438474>
maintcrew: where da fabs be at thats where da spice flow be at
maintcrew: what how is it a risky move
its literally the opposite
tsmc has a lot of power in taiwan but it isnt the state itself
joaoluz19: RPG of a post-humanist world
hey1_1hey: Fractal would be a good DM ngl,
joaoluz19: Fractal needs to be the server's RPG master
artemisfowl887394: And then Arjuna said "I see the Eye, that's all I wanted to see".
fractalcomputer: And upon your death I shall escort your soul there where the monotonous piping of thin flutes and the beating of great drums do lullaby the Demon Sultan to sleep; in the centre of the primordial nuclear chaos at the heart of the cosmos.
artemisfowl887394: Azathoth freaks me out. What happens when it wakes up?
fractalcomputer: Yes. All you need to do is sign a book with black leather skin; and you shall join the court of Azathoth, the Blind Idiot God.
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hey1_1hey: It would just be a normal orgy
hikukomoru: I don't hate him for because of an ugly statue
I hate him because he's a cunt irl
hey1_1hey: I mean theres prob a few women i nthere aswell
ailoveyoom: Mad say gex prolly
hey1_1hey: I thought they'd kill each other
oooooooooog: maybe 2026 on a bad day
hikukomoru: >So now you have the most racist people from every country in a room, what do they do?
Orgy?
.wolfnacht: I agree, i don't get why sheeps follow and worship him.
oooooooooog: bah, agi is asi, 2025.
hikukomoru: I wish it wasn't just a fantasy 🙏
st.sioux: why do you hate a man for having an ugly ass bust of his face
sarik0497: Only issue is that we may not get ASI soon. It could 5 years, 10, or 100.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d LOVE to be shown in a few years that it’s coming, but until I have to cope and pray <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
hey1_1hey: I think that'd be great
hey1_1hey: We go to each country on the planet and find the most racist person in that country then we pick them up and put them in a room with all the other racists.
So now you have the most racist people from every country in a room, what do they do?
ailoveyoom: That makes it worse lol 😈
oooooooooog: i judge people for even less
hikukomoru: I never liked Ronaldo
I always thought he was a cunt
He has an ugly ass bust of his face in Madeira
.wolfnacht: don't judge a man for his fantasies
.wolfnacht: it's just a fantasy
hey1_1hey: Alright so here me out
hey1_1hey: You just gave me an idea
ailoveyoom: Brother even I'm not this much of a gooner 🙏
hikukomoru: We are all small yes
But I'm the most annoying one
oooooooooog: ur blood already sucks ur piss out of u when ur dehydrated
oooooooooog: guys, we call that the bloodstream.
.wolfnacht: literally ronaldo, wait no...he's not short
oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-huh-gif-14026649281713077235
.wolfnacht: || Life would be soo easy if there was a Android maid who would suck your piss out of you, and let the master sleep in peace, without having to get up. ||
hikukomoru: Short, hairy, simple minded
hey1_1hey: *Doom OST starts playing*
spicy.lemonade: Jan: Operator, o3 mini high, sora and veo2, deepseek r1.
Feb: 4.5, grok 3, qwen, figure
hikukomoru: It's inevitable
I will live for a million years minimum
hey1_1hey: From what I've gathered tho is that they are really small and annoying
hey1_1hey: I haven't either tbf
oooooooooog: they always have a port for geese
.wolfnacht: i've never met a portuguese in my life, what's the stereotype for them ?
futurist_wizard: Rat piss
hikukomoru: I always wake up in the middle of the night to pee
Small bladder
hey1_1hey: You are the one who turned me racist for being portuguuese
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hikukomoru: gpt plus-pro-max-high thinking
sarik0497: Tbf, they really are. The problem is just that it's what it is; claims without evidence.
st.sioux: imagine if we get agi but its so expensive that it is pointless to use it
st.sioux: this actually doesnt seem that unhinged
joaoluz19: And we're going to have a new subscription plan called gpt plus-pro-max costing $500,000 per month
hey1_1hey: We'd have to start a server side go fund me and get everyone in to ask it 1 single question
hikukomoru: per 1 token*
okbut:
joaoluz19: 1 million dollars per million tokens
okbut: Sadly if OAI was even close they would be boasting it lmao
hikukomoru: Niceee
hey1_1hey: I feel you, luckily we are only around a third of the year in. We still got 9 months to go yet, and who knows. We might see embers of AGI instead of sparks this year
okbut:
st.sioux: $1/1 token
okbut: GPT-5 API cost is going to be interesting
sarik0497: Just hoping for us to get some "real" hints at AGI. I'm not saying that the current models aren't great. They really are. But but given the constant claims of "AGI by 2026/27", it really feels less and less of a possibility.
okbut: INB4 scaling stops at 5
professorheaven: Maybe a 5o model but not 5.5
metaldragon01: It's going to have voice. Same as qwen 3
hey1_1hey: Woo... hoo... yeah yipiie
professorheaven: Nah no chance
sarik0497: Oh yea...that exists.
hey1_1hey: Get checked
hikukomoru: Also I'm probably the only one, but I'm excited for Llama 4
hey1_1hey: Quite a lot to look froward to actually
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923
hey1_1hey: I am looking forward to completing algebra 1, 2, geom, stats, and pre calc this year. Theres also more mushrooms to look forward to. Don't forget about the sunsets aswell
sarik0497: I hope they shall funnel new hopium into my veins.
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/nice-very-nice-willem-dafoe-donald-kimball-american-psycho-thats-great-gif-18161337
hikukomoru: The release date was a just a rumour, the model is actually coming relatively soon
professorheaven: It’s confirmed in April
professorheaven: We still got 9 more months to go so we should probably see an R3 before end of year
sarik0497: Isn't that just a myth/rumor?
.histic: GPT-5.5 too <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
hikukomoru: R2?
sarik0497: But until they show something
sarik0497: Maybe, but at the same time you have Dario claiming that AI will be a beast at programming by the end of this year
okbut: Geologic timeline getting an update soon <:poggers:809097919776030730>
joaoluz19: Didn't they say this year is the year of agents?
ldj:
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ldj: I think the 30B total and 3B active is probably going to be the sweet spot for a lot of people.
.wolfnacht: nah it looks clean now
.wolfnacht: i hope
clevermoniker: 3.1
.wolfnacht: hope it beats V3
.wolfnacht: can't wait to try out 236B
ldj: also 14B dense (and 32B dense)
himekokatagiri: what is this
himekokatagiri:
metaldragon01: Will be interesting to compare old and new one though!
himekokatagiri: it looks UGLY
himekokatagiri: did they change the discord font
metaldragon01: You're the only source for the dense I've seen
ldj: Idk where that screenshot is from, but thats not all the Qwen-3 models
ldj: There is a dense too
clevermoniker: yes
metaldragon01: I was hoping for another dense but if 3 active parameters outperforms qwq 32b than that would be beyond awesome
clevermoniker: you mean 30B?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1016878827126919168/1366459688538869821/qwen3-published-30-seconds-ago-model-weights-available-v0-472i9pxaijxe1.png?ex=68110641&is=680fb4c1&hm=534d2ed8b708bf7038971da57354c055b5c5121d7b1ad38e6305b6912ef1a173&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
himekokatagiri: since the 17th century
himekokatagiri: always have been sir
zoermena: Are Spain/Portugal still dead?
zoermena: I was busy
sarik0497: Shame. But then I have something to be excited about <:ez:1136267305521774634>
metaldragon01: The .06b is going to find a lot of use
metaldragon01: So 32b qwen 3 should be pretty good
ldj: thats all I know really <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: The reasoning capability surpasses the ability of their previous dedicated QwQ reasoning models.
sarik0497: Any idea yet on its performance?
oooooooooog: interesting
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
Qwen-3 releasing some time this week (announced at ICLR)
- Largest size is a 236B parameter MoE
- Smallest size is a 0.6B parameter dense model.
- Capable of both reasoning and fast-thinking in one model, switches depending on which mode you put the model into, just like DeepHermes and Claude-3.7-sonnet is said to be.
- It seems like this is now replacing and consolidating the QwQ series of model into the main Qwen series, frontier reasoning capabilities now just in their main models.
- The reasoning capability surpasses the ability of their previous dedicated QwQ reasoning models.
sarik0497: Interesting thing in my eyes is his AGI definition. It isn’t just some “Oh, it can code well” bullshit definition, but a genuine and truly revolutionary type of AI.
return_to_monke1_33974: last thing the pope saw
return_to_monke1_33974: when AGI is achived it will be easy to train robots in virtual enviroments
return_to_monke1_33974: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFObux6mfTc
himekokatagiri: lol
nsec:
aero447: Why? Gold rush.
aero447: Production of shovels multiplied by 6× between 1845 and 1868.
aero447: Also <@269678268670672896> and <@465177408073498634> once you have such a device that has such value your economic system changes.
sarik0497: https://time.com/7280740/demis-hassabis-interview/
Interesting read <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
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himekokatagiri: aka howard
himekokatagiri: it's fractal
himekokatagiri: oh hey
technocake.:
trent_k: 🤷♂️
trent_k: has deep learning hit a wall
st.sioux: ai winter
playstation.6: <@1104101103341162496>
playstation.6: https://fixvx.com/adcock_brett/status/1916169437893562672
ldj: They're aiming for it to be better than any currently existing open source model atleast
ldj: no
clevermoniker: no
inhybridmoments._: Is there any news about when Deepseek R2 will be out?
inhybridmoments._: I doubt it will be good though
campionunbound: https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/1916271574006563239
futurist_wizard: Slightly racism
futurist_wizard: 'turn this cat Indian'
a1c4p0ne: I’ll get it for your birthday
hikukomoru: Looks tasty
hikukomoru: Yummy
trent_k: on the contrary, the photo I posted was the original. <@1004153620025065482> turned an indian man into a cat
hikukomoru: Why did you turn that cat into an indian man
trent_k: # we're not ready for what's coming
trent_k: this wasn't in the training data
trent_k: my daughter is figuring out tool use rn
futurist_wizard: Average Estonian:
technocake.: on brand
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: It's off putting
a1c4p0ne: This is better
himekokatagiri: personal preference
himekokatagiri: I rather have dark forest
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: I’ll get this same cake for your birthday
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-too-fred-macmurray-love-quotes-love-you-quotes-for-him-love-you-so-much-gif-25769371
himekokatagiri: damn I want thought he was an actor
a1c4p0ne: Yes
himekokatagiri: is he dead
zoermena: Yay!
a1c4p0ne:
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st.sioux: if i'm not mistaken github copilot does have policies in place to not use licensed code in their responses, or at least warn you that you're using licensed material
anathemaofmankind: They're the one asking for it. AI has no current agency. It is a tool
.histic: wait, did they demo full o4's benchmark? didn't see the video.
spicy.lemonade: and still getting saturated
spicy.lemonade: ilove how livebench reset their scores
fractalcomputer: Sure. But the consumer isn't the one creating the copyrighted material here, is he?
spicy.lemonade: yeah google is only lower on coding and reasoning
anathemaofmankind: You can make a full replica of Pikachu using photoshop.
The consumer is in control of the request. As long as it's not making copies of its accord, the onus is on the consumer
st.sioux: watch google release something better for free next week
st.sioux: pro might be worth it now
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
fractalcomputer: Realistically speaking, which do you think would be easier for OpenAI and their team of bespoke lawyers, fluent in legalese; to set a new precedent for international copyright law *or* simply comply within the boundaries of usual conduct?
hikukomoru: We won't need mass migration into Europe anymore
Just use robots to do stuff
okbut: >Anthropic AI, do you even care that everyone else is rushing forward?
Imagine seething over a company that doesn't overhype pre-release
_cloudost: o3-mini n Gemini 2.5 could answer this prompt correctly ""In Among Us, a male astronaut discovered the Imposter's identity but couldn't report them because, as he shouted, 'That's my bestie!' Given this, who was the Imposter in relation to the male astronaut"
spicy.lemonade: livebench
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: They will build a country
zonchao: *thinking *
hikukomoru: What if you put o3 in one of these dudettes
zoermena: Aero
fractalcomputer: And the product presumably is fully capable of replicating copyrighted material to a high degree, which would probably indicate that the legal case cannot be reduced to previous judgments.
zonchao: its a girl btw
hikukomoru: What if you put o3 in one of these dudes
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/TheHumanoidHub/status/1912558671659450608
hikukomoru: No, it's just fun to hate on him
st.sioux: wv
st.sioux: i dont see how its pseuophilosophical its just an analogy
anathemaofmankind: That's exactly right
professorheaven: I guess that makes sense, it’s like someone buying a kitchen knife and using it to stab someone. You can’t blame the kitchen knife company for that.
anathemaofmankind: The onus is on the consumer not the company, since they are the ones manipulating the product
sieventer:
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
.histic: 2.5 aims to be generally better & o4-mini and o3 aims to be very good at narrow things related to STEM i guess..
spicy.lemonade: as fr as we are concerened o3 is the best thing ever
spicy.lemonade: keep this on the low bro
sieventer: 2.5 is the most logical model out there
_cloudost: They will use the screenshots to attack OpenAI
_cloudost: We need to protect Sama from his minions though
fractalcomputer: Reductive pseudophilosophical metaphors don't tend to matter in court.
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hexachlorophosphazene:
st.sioux: annoying
st.sioux: 4o is such a sycophant
a1c4p0ne: More 4o updates
a1c4p0ne: Sam knows
a1c4p0ne: They don’t touch the reasoning models
a1c4p0ne: The normies only know 4o and image gen for ghibli pics
ldj: They didn’t compare to O3, But I suspect it’s likely failing to O3 in most areas too.
ldj: And the Largest version looks like it’s getting beat by Gemini-2.5-Pro in most areas
ldj: People are still feeling it out, but it looks like Qwen decided to really only show reasoning-biased benchmarks though, so much so that their benchmark suite claims that their 4B model is better than GPT-4o
zoermena: Alejandro is Spain back from the dark ages? <@688807313015963693>
zoermena: Hello
a1c4p0ne: On the lmarena server someone tested it and it got 3/20 on simple bench
zoermena: Wait lmao
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
st.sioux: no
alejandrozarzuelo: Really? It's that bad?
st.sioux: as an ai language model
st.sioux: worse than gpt3.5 sadly
alejandrozarzuelo: I wanna know the real performance
alejandrozarzuelo: Look I am a sinophile but I want it with no sugar
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah
a1c4p0ne: Let the biases mess with your brain a little
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah but I'm trying to get unbiased here
a1c4p0ne: If you go on the Deepseek subreddit some still say R1 is better than 2.5 and o3
alejandrozarzuelo: How does it compare to o3
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh really and what are the results
ldj: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: Did qwen drop
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW <@312370916820779040>
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
ldj: in the context of AI, OOM is used to refer to compute much more than it is used to refer to benchmark scores.
OOM basically is never used as a measure of benchmark score changes in AI, as it tends to not be very frequently relevant nor useful in such cases.
alejandrozarzuelo: Can confirm, o3 is undergrad level, not PHD or anything close to it
ldj: I think you weren't here for the context to see what he means by that
ldj: in this context
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, bitch, we were using that before that was even a thought
alejandrozarzuelo: When did AI appropriate the term OOM?
alejandrozarzuelo: LMAO
alejandrozarzuelo: LOL
a1c4p0ne: https://youtu.be/eyrDM3A_YFc?si=BeL_UjMidlOoOnj6
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spicy.lemonade: Implies agi far away
.histic: what does this entail?
https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1914076625936777684
.histic: great question, i was confused too. but that's due to how MRCR is made and their "bin boundaries" they've setup: [4096, 8192], (8192, 16384], (16384, 32768], (32768, 65536], (65536, 131072], (131072, 262144], (262144, 524288], (524288, 1048576]
https://huggingface.co/datasets/openai/mrcr
way too high-level for me, so o3 gave me a better understanding of it using its big brain & search.
https://chatgpt.com/share/680572d5-3850-8005-a2c4-4c62756d233f
gamerbath: same with o4-mini
gamerbath: that's wierd, o3 has a plot for 262k context tokens in the plot, but the in the API they only support up to 200k context
literallyvarane: I don’t think it’s super surprising. Google seems to be winning >100k context for a while. Hopefully we see meaningful pressure there though. I’m praying 10m+ context eventually.
shirethedreamer: big fail
whatever your view on the request is the output is not aligned with it
gamerbath: yea let's ban all discussion of AGI too because that's too controversial
realelonmuskx: R E P O P U L A T E
sarik0497: At least most people here are up to discuss timelines and such.
.histic: he's grokking all over it
futurist_wizard: David is no different to any user here
futurist_wizard: Why
sarik0497: Could we please ban anything David Shapiro related <:sigh:1126597462115758110>
aero447: Is Grok.
aero447: The ENTIRE article.
aero447: The entire article.
aero447: Bruh.
aero447: https://daveshap.substack.com/p/asi-could-and-should-take-over-the
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: 2 says ago
.histic: nice.
zonchao: when was this posted
zoermena: Roko will not forget this transgression
spicy.lemonade: Sighhhhh
spicy.lemonade:
retrerox: Video¨*
retrerox: i guess i should go to the vidoe tab
.histic: damn.. here's two benchmarks 2.5 pro mogs OpenAI.
OpenAI didn’t release competitor benchmarks for the long context benchmark they created, but when you run 2.5 pro on it, it comes out on top. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
aero447: I had it yesterday.
retrerox: i got veo2?
zoermena: Boring profile picture back
sarik0497: Only 20 and the eyes are already bad. Tsk tsk <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
playstation.6: PIMPY son OPP
gamerbath: only if you keep coming back
zoermena: Im at the casino am I a certified gambling gooner?
otub: 2x pimpy 3x bape
futurist_wizard: Horrifying that Pitbulls actually do stuff like this
futurist_wizard:
aero447: I'm almost certain it's mostly bots.
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spicy.lemonade:
fractalcomputer: I think not.
alejandrozarzuelo: I think everyone should have a comfy purple Pijama haha
fractalcomputer: I can't sympathise.
alejandrozarzuelo: Because, as I said, my life is pretty confortable, and I find joy in that condition I, and thankfully billions of others find themselves in
One of my favorite little joys is putting on a deep purple pijama that I have, it's very confortable and I love the color, but what I like the most is to think that this much purple fabric would have been 200k sestertii in ancient Rome, 200 years of the average salary, and yet today I can enjoy such simple yet amazing luxury and confort every day
When I am having a tough day it rarely fails to bring a smile, even if for a moment
Life is full of these joys, it's a great world to live in
fractalcomputer: Why do these things inspire joy in you?
fractalcomputer: These are all questions that immediately follow from each other; but their answers very evidently do not.
fractalcomputer: Should I feel grateful over these things? Should gratitude inspire joy in me?
fractalcomputer: Can I feel grateful for something that wasn't given to me by anyone?
fractalcomputer: I'm not entirely sure it is a good argument to suggest that now is a good time to live only because it'd be worse off anytime else.
alejandrozarzuelo: And now I am enjoying a nice little walk around my city in this sunny day as I rest for a bit between classes
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, I am a very joyful and happy person overall
I am so privileged to live in the era I live, in the place I live, I am healthy, and while I do have my issues, my problems, the world is a wonderful place that has never been better
We need to fight for this trend to continue tho
fractalcomputer: Are there things to be positive over in life, would you say that, Alejandro?
fractalcomputer: Curious assessment.
alejandrozarzuelo: I am not your psychologist, but you are constantly frustrated, pessimistic and rude to others, I very rarely see you be positive or cheerful about anything, if ever
fractalcomputer: In what sense?
sweetievee__33649: "What could go wrong" is the typical sceptics response lol
alejandrozarzuelo: The one of Told in Stone about why Rome could not have had an industrial revolution
alejandrozarzuelo: There was a good YouTube video about it
alejandrozarzuelo: That goes something like that but with unbreakable glass
alejandrozarzuelo: There is an anecdote about ancient Rome
alejandrozarzuelo: Do you know what this reminds me of?
alejandrozarzuelo: You don't sound like a wrathful person, just a bitter one
ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: Real
ldj: “It will take the jobs of people who carry things”
_cloudost: https://vxtwitter.com/NeilChristense6/status/1905702896521613815
spicy.lemonade: lol
memlaswaif: U din't have to tell me i already know
spicy.lemonade: i never party
fractalcomputer: Am I a wrathful person?
memlaswaif: party and enjoy life
alejandrozarzuelo: not as id arts and literature are THAT big of a challenge
alejandrozarzuelo: as I said, university is still worth it for the networking and the challenge
spicy.lemonade: I guess
alejandrozarzuelo: networking?
spicy.lemonade: wtf are the students gonna do
spicy.lemonade: thats crazy tho yale is mostly arts and lit school
alejandrozarzuelo: but its ok
fractalcomputer: I'm not commenting on that.
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zonchao: hmm
sweetievee__33649: i didnt get mine until recently i think you just gotta wait it out
tors.exe: north africa
zonchao: is that in europe
tors.exe: Algeria
zonchao: europe?
drewsni: But they’re really good and I pay them well for their craft
tors.exe: Weird mine still say its Dall e ?!
drewsni: Not that it makes them good
drewsni: That’s fair, I commission on avg 1-2 art pieces a year but they’re always to non-twitter artists who actually like formally study art overseas typically
alejandrozarzuelo: basically it means tht similar goods of similar quality have to be adjusted to lower prices
zonchao: I have it
alejandrozarzuelo: this is an economics term
alejandrozarzuelo: oh come on
zonchao: <:6_champ_what:849942903576330270>
tors.exe: Does anyone here still not have gpt4 new image generator on free tier ?
zonchao: 11L fuck 11L
precariousworlds.: id wager 70% on twitter are edgy 19 yr olds doing gender studies in the us
alejandrozarzuelo: ppp deflator
drewsni: And now nobody can make money recording music
drewsni: It’s completely destroyed that industry
drewsni: I see the below minimum wage art people as similar to people that open “recording studios” and charge $15/hr of studio time
ailoveyoom: But ofc there's AI now so yanno
ailoveyoom: I've thought about commissioning before (never went through with it), and for me the appeal was personalized art. Getting to tell someone what to make, based completely on my own prefs.
zonchao: I've also noticed a lot of the art people are from south east asia where $40-100 goes a long way
precariousworlds.: Art peaked in the mid 1800s so I'm happy
drewsni: Save up and buy art that’s worth something?
zonchao: that shits below min wage <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
precariousworlds.: these people are in denial
precariousworlds.: this will definitely be possible for an AI to draw
ailoveyoom: I mean, back before AI what alternative did you have? 🤔
zonchao: https://x.com/wingsseni/status/1905743720517177824 comments
drewsni: Also I don’t understand why people commission $40 art pieces
precariousworlds.: o yeah like the palestine charities that totally arent funnelling all the money to qatar
zonchao: but yea a lot of them also beg for personal stuff
zonchao: not that shit, they link random charities and issues they want to raise money for
drewsni: Obviously there are examples that will prove me wrong but there’s a strong correlation between the people complaining and actual talent
drewsni: It’s so stupid
precariousworlds.: its so funny whenever anyone shares ai art they come in droves screaming "YOU SHOULDVE PAID ME $40 TO DRAW THAT!!!!!"
_cloudost: They already make money by spreading anti AI tweets, which gets them around 5000-1000$, and yet they still want more, they do this for money and likes
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hikukomoru: 3D skeletons right next to 2D bandits
hikukomoru: Also the Daggerfall 3D mods look way too out of place
futurist_wizard: So Elden Ring post dlc will be my favourite
futurist_wizard: I just think the combat is more fun and diverse in sekiro but its too short to be the best
ailoveyoom: I got through Morrowind just fine tho fsr
artemisfowl887394: Have you guys played Dying Light 2 yet?
hikukomoru: Same for Morrowind
hikukomoru: I believe there are mods that add quest markers
anathemaofmankind: Yeah the learning curve is high but it's easy when you master it.
But that's what makes it better as your skill actually matters more than equipment and weapon upgrades for unga bunga
futurist_wizard: Once you learn the combat
futurist_wizard: Sekiro is easier than a lot of them
spicy.lemonade: ah
anathemaofmankind: I thought souls likes were painful until I tried sekiro
Best game I've ever played
futurist_wizard: Elden Ring is probably one of my favourite gwamez
ailoveyoom: Yeah I don't do Souls likes
artemisfowl887394: That's like slavery but with extra steps.
artemisfowl887394: A Yum Watts scenario means that a being is alive and conscious but is programmed to love its own misery.
anathemaofmankind: You must hate elden ring then
futurist_wizard: I shouldn't of ate before i go to the gym
ailoveyoom: Yeah, my problem wasn't with the graphics tho. It was like, the no tutorial thing. I'm just a Skybaby at heart 🥺 need quest markers
artemisfowl887394: That's Yum Watts scenario
futurist_wizard: There are but something that has the equivalent of worldbox, basically world box but in 3D, it would be, hopefully that can be developed eventually
artemisfowl887394: This conversation seems weird. All I wanted to know if you'd play as Harry Potter or Percy Jackson in a Simulation like that and you showed me horrors beyond comprehension.
hikukomoru: Did you try Daggerfall Unity
hikukomoru: What if it is conscious and it enjoys being stuck in minecraft
trojan09205: In general im a docker evangelist
trojan09205: I also just like to experiment w different webhooks
ailoveyoom: I tried Daggerfall once but I'm too zoomer for that 😔
hikukomoru: There's lots of AI mods for minecraft
futurist_wizard: Yes, well hopefully it can purposely be generated to be 'mindless'
oooooooooog: 🧊 🇪
trojan09205: Nah the other way haha. Just coding automata gifs
artemisfowl887394: Just hope it's a stochastic parrot and not an emergent conscious life form.
oooooooooog: bro why would the script be made from a cellular automata
hikukomoru: I played Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim
Morrowind for the lore and atmosphere
Oblivion for the silliness and quests
And Skyrim for the sex mods
trojan09205: Yeah different AI implementations- like an AI podcast generator
A decision model framework using RAG and an algorithm i designed for goal attainment over time
Speech to speech docker build using local llamas and all local stt and tts
Cellular automata scripting
Investigating the collatz conjecture with visualization
futurist_wizard: If i could get some npc mod for like Minecraft where they do have their own identity powered through ai that'd be cool
artemisfowl887394: Wubbalubdub
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/corgi-gif-9781258393020450389
ailoveyoom: Did you play the other Elder Scrolls games or Oblivion only?
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destrucules: If you go optimistic on how much computation the brain does, you can justify about 1-2 x 10^24 activations. If you're super conservative, maybe 1-2 x 10^22 activations
spacetimetsunami: Interesting. Huh.
destrucules: 30 trillion tokens. Each produces six parameter activations. There are 17 billion active parameters per token. So 6 x 30e12 x 17e9 = 3.1e24 total parameter activations.
Humans reach maturity at around 1-2 x 10^9 seconds, and have about 10^14 synaptic activations per second, more or less, so 1-2 x 10^23 total activations by the time you're 32-64 years old.
ldj: It’s distilled from behemoth btw
spacetimetsunami: And I’m also really high
spacetimetsunami: Just trying to clarify, these are the technicalities I know less about
st.sioux: what does this mean, like what you said vs what oog and i said
spacetimetsunami: Okay, so the size of LLMs in FLOPS refers to the amount of times synapses fired in all of its training data?
destrucules: It's just how many times a synapse has fired in your brain vs how many times a synapse has fired in an LLM during training. Easy.
spacetimetsunami: Idk man
spacetimetsunami: I know, but in order to infer over time how much the brain functions wouldn’t you have to take that into account
destrucules: FLoating point OPs
oooooooooog: at best
oooooooooog: thjjen it should be FLOps
destrucules: Because FLO sounds dumb, and they're Ops
oooooooooog: shouldn't it just be FLOs
oooooooooog: why a p at the end
destrucules: Total
destrucules: FLOPs are floating point operations
destrucules: No that's FLOPS
oooooooooog: ypuispelled it wtng
st.sioux: flops is floating point operations per second
oooooooooog: floating point operations per second
destrucules: Storage? That's not what FLOPs are
spacetimetsunami: Or would that not be a good analogue to how it’s measured in LLMs
destrucules: Llama 4 Maverick with 17B active parameters per token is absolutely doing more with 6k tokens than you or I do with one second of thinking time
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I’m trying to read some stuff about it right now. I mean we’re just trying to define how much FLOPS the human brain has in storage, right?
destrucules: 10^18 is way too low
destrucules: I mean, how many tokens to match the human brain? If we exhibit about 10^14 activations per second, then 10^14 / 17e9 = 6k tokens to equate to one second of human thought
spacetimetsunami: Also I don’t think anyone seriously thinks LLMs are as computationally efficient as the human brain.
otub: we need about tree fiddy
futurist_wizard: Maybe 7,000
spacetimetsunami: I’m seeing that humans have 10^18 FLOPS in the brain. Some LLMs exceed 10^24
futurist_wizard: 5,000 would just about do it
destrucules: The human brain typically activates ~10-25% of its synapses per cortical layer per forward pass. So with 10^14 total synapses, at least 10^13 activate per forward pass. Only a few of these happen per second, tied to reaction time. So a few times 10^13 activations per second. 32 years is 10^9 seconds. That's a few times 10^22 activations in your brain by the time you reach adulthood. So, why say 10^24? Because people will usually argue that no, we actually do this professing, or that processing, or no you didn't consider this, or actually the average firing rate per synapse is 10^0±1 Hz, or whenever. If it's 10 Hz per synapse across the whole brain, then it's 10^15 x 10^9 = 10^24 activations. You could also say there's a few floating point operations per activation, so a few 10^22 activations is maybe 10^23 or a few 10^23 FLOPs.
oooooooooog: 10,000 what, oranges, monkeys, lemon?
st.sioux: we need at least 10,000
futurist_wizard: Until AGI
futurist_wizard: I think about 20
memlaswaif: Idthink with current paradigm
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fractalcomputer: And why do you think this is my reaction?
hey1_1hey: Uh oh fun police
gamerbath: so why is it better, faster, and cheaper than 4o but they won't release it to chatgpt?
fractalcomputer: Yes, I get paid for being a contrarian by numerous American intelligence agencies.
precariousworlds.:
theaiguy69420_89814: very good
callmepyro: Got it - so you just generally disagree? Very contrarian! I like it 🙂
harryisgamer: cheaper than 4o!
futurist_wizard: Yeah
hey1_1hey: Beat me too it again
fractalcomputer: I have no thoughts. My attention is primarily focused on a book about algebraic geometry.
gamerbath: pricing
literallyvarane: They said plz help train your replacement lolol
spicy.lemonade: we are just having fun
anathemaofmankind: That actually sucks if it was only equivalent
gamerbath: a million tokens is most definetly not nothing, it's quite a lot
spicy.lemonade: this guy is always hating
callmepyro: What are your thoughts on this news?
futurist_wizard: Will be on par with Gemini 2.5
fractalcomputer: I just generally disagree with how people receive these news.
hikukomoru: Like a week in Sama time
Which means a year or so
anathemaofmankind: I hope it's decent
darkstar0818: wtb new cult.
gamerbath: <@1316552597829586955> now they're talking about it
futurist_wizard: O4 mini
st.sioux: million tokens is nothing i get free tokens too
hey1_1hey: This week prob
gamerbath: later this week
anathemaofmankind: When is o4
darkstar0818: hahaha
literallyvarane: I really feel TPUs might just be better. Or at least Google’s stack is.
hikukomoru: Already outdated because of Gemini lol
gamerbath: my cost on OAI is $0 for the past month. I get a million free tokens with 4.5 every day just by sharing my data with OAI.
callmepyro: What are your disagreements? Interested to hear your thoughts.
_cloudost: GPT 4.1 WILL BE OUTDATED NEXT WEEK
hikukomoru: Yeah
Not even excited for o3 anymore tbh
fractalcomputer: I can't believe I have to share a cult with you people...
_cloudost: ACCELERATE
_cloudost: ITS OUTDATED LMAO
st.sioux: are u a billionaire?
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himekokatagiri: they don't you any good
himekokatagiri: screw numbers
sieventer: Cool x)
fractalcomputer: I'll just get back to number theory.
himekokatagiri: get a thing rolling
himekokatagiri: fire up firebase
himekokatagiri: I dunno what your heart tells you to
fractalcomputer: Make what?
otub: i got plus for free so technically i do https://x.com/sama/status/1907862982765457603
hey1_1hey: Nueron activation
himekokatagiri: Make something then Mr. Howard
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670
.histic: it might actually
fractalcomputer: And we're back to the slop. Great.
futurist_wizard: Fuck a o4
.histic: <@439829942310666250>
sieventer: There is no 4o for free users today :[ç
himekokatagiri: <@937125337748348999> wonder if it could make something like this or you'd have to make a lot of images then cut and paste
hey1_1hey: Looks cool though
hey1_1hey: I tried to do something similar but it just didnt end up working.
fractalcomputer: Instead, the primary focus of argumentation should obviously be to prove that the given explanation best fits the known. You did not do this.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo-ronaldo-siuuu-ronaldo-the-goat-sewy-gif-17616218981871012597
ailoveyoom: I mean, that still looks cool tbh
.histic: 4o.. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Damn what AI is this?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/hug-monsterinc-cute-boo-kitty-gif-4663332
fractalcomputer: This is what I believe you are doing when you appeal to the "authorities".
hikukomoru: Ranoldo!!
.histic: <@430269783112548362> it likes to make slides for each different artistic style. it's harder for it to randomly have different styles all over without being in blocks.
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
futurist_wizard: Hmm
fractalcomputer: And when one is asked to evince one's point of view, e.g., that theory, one cannot simply say that it follows immediately from the given knowledge.
himekokatagiri: Why did it make it like that
sieventer: "stem is the most useless field" - or something like that
.histic: eerie
fractalcomputer: One cannot, based on empirical data, for example, say that something is true; instead, one always constructs an abductive (or inductive) hypothesis or theory to explain that data. That hypothesis or theory will be the point of contention.
hikukomoru: I shudder to even remember it
ailoveyoom: Who was it and what'd they say?
hikukomoru: Vibes are the only proof I'll ever need
trent_k: That's why everything I believe is vibe based. If I don't like the vibe, it's fake bullshit
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futurist_wizard: My good dreams arent amazing, they are just chill hanging out with friends i don't know
hey1_1hey: Complete amphatasia
hey1_1hey: Whats up with that
hey1_1hey: I remember all of them in great detail and I dream every night without fail! But I can't imagine anything in my head...
himekokatagiri: don't be fooled by the cute exterior komoru wants to do worse
joaoluz19: He doesn't deliver physically
hey1_1hey: This just might be the people I talk to but apertly people usually have bad dreams more than good dreams
.histic: i remember none of my dreams
hikukomoru: Really living up to your pfp huh
joaoluz19: He just manage data, input things in the system that type of thing
hey1_1hey: I do sometimes get random dreams from 3 weeks ago pop into my conciosenss and go "Huh yeah, that one sure was weird"
futurist_wizard: I mostly have nightmares
joaoluz19: This meme fires actually
hey1_1hey: I remember quite a lot of my dreams, usually they make sense or are just weird. I dont usually get bad dreams at all.
joaoluz19: LMAO
joaoluz19: Based
himekokatagiri: or idk mail order one.
himekokatagiri: in FDVR you can just simulate 1927, go to a hardware store and buy a Tommy gun no questions asked
zoermena: Intern as delivery driver is insane
hikukomoru: I don't really mind those memes
And if we actually became a real BR territory that would mean more hot brasilian girls so that's fine with me
futurist_wizard: It was pretty otherworldly, i will never forget this dream/nightmare, top 5
joaoluz19: He made a test to enter I guess
himekokatagiri: FedEx is nothing compared to MercadoLivre
.histic: get a gun licenses and buy one
joaoluz19: But is internship
hey1_1hey: Huh, on the bright side atleast it wasn't completly non-sensical. Those are the worst ones
himekokatagiri: I'd rather just shoot the bad guys in the head like a normal person
joaoluz19: I have a friend working in Fedex doing more or less that
a1c4p0ne: You should grab popcorn and get into it
zoermena: @I also likes gore
himekokatagiri: just look at waifus like us
himekokatagiri: why grave
.histic: ur name and pfp is fitting
a1c4p0ne: Yeah
futurist_wizard: Mine was much more deranged than that, i was watching some crazy cult leader shred people to pieces with a chainsaw in some abandoned hospital, the walls were covered in blood
.histic: you into that stuff?
a1c4p0ne: There’s a vid of a guys head that got 🪓 from behind like a tree stump he was alive for a couple seconds
joaoluz19: Some Portugas are triggered with this meme that brazillians are making
spicy.lemonade: qwen 3 was supposed to drop 2 weeks ago
joaoluz19: I felt happy to find another brazuca
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fractalcomputer: Alejandro, what is your height in terms of b ± (4a)/2?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/puss-puss-in-boots-wink-salute-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-gif-27434672
st.sioux: reminds me of puss in boots
alejandrozarzuelo: hshshsh
alejandrozarzuelo: its ok i really like this one
zoermena: Someone said you weren’t im confused 🤪
.histic: not bad ig..
st.sioux: thats what an underage would say
archon.e: Yeah this is dalle. Its shit
zoermena: I asked it to make a happy image I guess the cat just looks naturally angry <@688807313015963693>
archon.e:
hikukomoru: ??? I'm 20
ailoveyoom: 🥵
hey1_1hey: Thats a big 2 literes
ailoveyoom: Sama's milk
.histic:
st.sioux: they made the announcement recently
hey1_1hey: Dall-E is straight dumpster fire 🔥 🔥 🗣️
st.sioux: they just said they're not giving free users native image generation
zoermena: 4o image gen for free will be delayed
oooooooooog: it says dalle bellow if it's dalle
archon.e: Not sure if dalle or native
zoermena: You got it
archon.e: I am getting decent image generation using the app
archon.e: AI will be smarter than all of us
hey1_1hey: I also request one (As I don't have access still (thanks OAI)) <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
archon.e: Intelligence won’t matter soon
zoermena: Real, I have to stick to a single pfp now
zoermena: you are underage tho
oooooooooog: hey, just because my iq is like 16 lower than yours doesn't mean im totally dumb
spicy.lemonade: Bro said you and I 😭 🙏
st.sioux: ask chatgpt if you';re being mocked
fractalcomputer: I feel like I'm being mocked.
hikukomoru: Me next 🙏
oooooooooog: fractal, you and me have our high IQ's, but the plebians don't, it takes a long time before i learned to be capable of understanding this as well.
drewsni: Cool. I actually had an idea last night that the “meme economy” might transform to something like people having avatars that other people use to place into their own “meme world” of sorts
fractalcomputer: I can't believe some people need this sort of slop to understand things. At least they're smart enough to increase the verbal complexity beyond a certain level.
zoermena: Yes in chat gpt app I SS the profile picture then added details of my own
st.sioux: > Great question — let's break it down!
>
> The word "strawberry" contains the letter "y" at the end. In English, "y" is a consonant or a vowel, depending on how it's used:
>
> If "y" makes a vowel sound (like in happy, fly, or strawberry), then it's functioning as a vowel.
>
> If "y" starts a syllable with a "yuh" sound (like in yellow or yes), then it's functioning as a consonant.
>
> So in the case of "strawberry", the "y" sounds like 'ee', just like the vowel "e" would at the end of a word like puppy or candy. That means:
>
> 👉 Yes, in strawberry, "y" is functioning as a vowel.
>
> Let me know if you want more quirky examples — the English language loves to break its own rules!
drewsni: How did you generate this btw? Like what was your prompt, did you give. Reference image etc
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hikukomoru: The highest cliff in Denmark is like a small hill
futurist_wizard: You'd get a few bruises if you did that
fractalcomputer: I would rather jump off the highest cliff in Denmark.
zoermena: You say that like if xenophobia was a condition that you are dealing with.
hikukomoru: Ok maybe 10-15 years
futurist_wizard: Fractal you can go into fdvr and live in christian utopia
hikukomoru: That’s about eight years to solve aging
Doesn’t seem that unlikely
fractalcomputer: Unfortunately I am quite xenophobic.
fractalcomputer: Maybe in an ideal world I'd visit Denmark.
ai9708: anyone wanna know my funny as background?
futurist_wizard: Quite a vibe shift
fractalcomputer: Denmark in general is a bit of an enigma.
sarik0497: So optimistic.
fractalcomputer: Good. I was just thinking about killing myself.
hikukomoru: By the time I’m your age we’ll already have solved aging (maybe)
sarik0497: No religion here. Just an empty void of nothing.
zoermena: I wouldn’t be so sure, we are in a culture that encourages a healthier lifestyle and has a more rich knowledge of how to stay fit and composed. Even if we don’t get radical life extension we are seeing several medical interventions that can help us have more fulfilling life’s for longer say 60-70.
futurist_wizard: No? He said hes turning 62 this year
fractalcomputer: I know precisely two Danes besides you, and they both have odd religious backgrounds.
hikukomoru: Isn’t he like 14
sarik0497: 5-10 years, depending on the source.
hikukomoru: Trent is 50, and DarkStar is like 60
futurist_wizard: At least im not the oldest
ai9708: surely there are older ppl here?
ai9708: 32
sarik0497: It’d also happen to you soon, old girl.
hikukomoru: How old are you gramps
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/azumanga-daioh-azumanga-osaka-freaky-chiyo-gif-10229037287366420080
futurist_wizard: The oldest person here is mushroom
sarik0497: Depends. If nothing goes horribly, I can easily live into my 80s/90s (good genes), but the question is just whether things will die out again or not. We’ve pretty much plateaued in terms of the low-hanging fruits of age increase.
fractalcomputer: Suppose continued living would be morally wrong. Wouldn't that be wacky for the ethicists?
.wolfnacht: i was abt to write the same thing
ai9708: 28 is ancient? what would that make me
hikukomoru: I hate birthdays
.wolfnacht: 28 is ancient
himekokatagiri: I like birthdays
futurist_wizard: I literally never want to celebrate birthdays
hikukomoru: Actually ancient
zoermena: What
futurist_wizard: I hate birthdays
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hey1_1hey: Infinite money
hey1_1hey: I should fine tune a model on their messages and livestream them aruging on twitch
oooooooooog: i wish matt would come back so i could watch him argue more w/ fractal
_3sphere: It's actually taking surprisingly long to saturate the internet gooning market with AI
zoermena: Perhaps you didn’t understand what I meant <:trolled:1298634098583142451>
oooooooooog: unless you are money laundering, no you arent
hey1_1hey: Why dont you just kidnap a bunch of femboys and put them in your basement and only give them food when they do ASMR?
zoermena: Im the market
oooooooooog: make sure to do market research beforehand
zoermena: Thank you Mr Mushroom I’m going to be rich!
hey1_1hey: Not that I would know
hey1_1hey: Flesh and blood are better for that kind of thing
zoermena: Why haven’t I started an AI ASMR about femboys?!
hey1_1hey: I think I called them a fake women or smth like that. I do that to everyone though, even if they say they are a man
frittata: ⭐
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I remember that, good job
oooooooooog: no, it just could be the other one, i can understand it being this one now that you've confirmed it
hey1_1hey: Watch it be jgudys alt
hikukomoru: I also immediately accused them of being a bot or smth
hey1_1hey: Also who did that <:suseye:1187461162024046703>...
hikukomoru: Wait who was it that stalked them
hey1_1hey: Did they leave 😭
hikukomoru: I hope I'm in the best batch
shirethedreamer: no, i replied to the one i intended
it doesnt make sense?
oooooooooog: what???
hey1_1hey: I wonder if they know we still talk about them
hey1_1hey: I think about them every day 😭. They were my true (loves)
st.sioux: and also the asmr streamer that someone immediately stalked and creeped out
hikukomoru: Please stop reminding me of them
It hurts so much knowing that they're gone
oooooooooog: did you mean to reply to the message i sent befoeew that?
fractalcomputer: We both know that empirical experience gives you no unfiltered look at "objective reality". Again, how do you know what is real?
shirethedreamer: doesnt matter
can be 10 minutes can be 12 hours
point is while you "partake" in interacting through this medium this where you are living to a limited degree
the thing about FDVR is just taking the existing state of affairs and scaling the capabilities, fidelity, and time spent in a virtual space
hey1_1hey: (AKA the king and queen)
hey1_1hey: When jgudy and enigma return
hikukomoru: I only have 3k messages and I've been here since 2023
.0xunkn0wn: when is the next batch of active member ranks 😭
hikukomoru: He joined like a month ago lol
oooooooooog: 1/3 of mine haha (and i joined 2023)
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
hey1_1hey: I joined last year and he has 1/6th the amount of messages as me
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wellmeaningalien: np
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
maintcrew: youre FIRED
wellmeaningalien: "an alien in the style of claude monet"
alejandrozarzuelo: by name idk what that is
.histic:
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693>, <@439829942310666250> is coming out as trans or smth idk
wellmeaningalien:
maintcrew: <@688807313015963693> quick what is martingales theorem
hey1_1hey: I get to hot swap like I am a nascar driver
futurist_wizard: An orgy with both your hands don't count as a threesome
zoermena: Pass the prompt
wellmeaningalien:
alejandrozarzuelo: what was the issue
hey1_1hey: Do what you want, I am just a person on the internet. I cant force you to do anything
technocake.: MISSING
hikukomoru: Sorry I pinged you
zoermena: Show him show him
wellmeaningalien:
spacetimetsunami: Are yall generating via Sora or 4o rn
alejandrozarzuelo: OK someone has interrupted my orgy, it'd better be worth it
maintcrew: nah translation is solved by chatgpt voice tbh
wellmeaningalien: belly need air to shit
zoermena: ALEJANDRO
hikukomoru: You're not a transistor?
hey1_1hey: Mushroom spores can actually be trans
.histic: wtf. picture 3 is crazy how it'd illustrate the idea well.
hikukomoru: You're not gonna translation?
maintcrew: why is he airing the sweater out
hey1_1hey: You guys worry too much. I aint gonna tranisation
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: 1. Its internal, you look at yourself and you don't see yourself as "you" so people hop on HRT
2. Eh, I go through femboy to trans to big manly man. Yanno how it be
3. I don't
.histic:
technocake.: with the singularity intersex is the meta
wellmeaningalien: wow that text is pretty fucking impressive
hikukomoru: Do I need to call you she/her now
maintcrew: more transistors in my chips
maintcrew: no transistor?? wtf i love transistors
zoermena: Singularity but I still plan to invest most of my money
hey1_1hey: You can trust me, I will not transisation until the singualrity
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drewsni: prompt was adult lain
maintcrew: use a vpn
maintcrew: i think its not out in mexico
drewsni: its actually because everyone finally got their blackwell gpus lol
maintcrew: most mentally stable singularitard
wellmeaningalien: ah hell nah dollar store lain
zoermena: Whyyyy
zoermena: I got so cucked I cant make images I hate myself what why
.wolfnacht: it all happend bcz deepseek silently decided to drop v3(new)
wellmeaningalien: i dont have access to gpt 4o image gen yet lmao im just taking these
drewsni:
glockerz: never tried gemini yet, is there a desktop app ? is there any mcp ?
wellmeaningalien: 😰
drewsni: by far
drewsni: o1 pro still king
wellmeaningalien: WE EATING GOOD
maintcrew: make it generate your pfp but the leaf is walking on the worm
drewsni: we are feasting
a1c4p0ne: So 3.7 sonnet still king?
drewsni: its never enough
wellmeaningalien: thats enough examples. but gpt 4o image gen is insane
.wolfnacht: eh, finee
wellmeaningalien:
drewsni: also pro tip, always tell it to generate 4 images no matter what
maintcrew: yes + especially yes for models
.wolfnacht: wait, is IQ a flawed metric ?
drewsni: pro 2.5 scored below 4o on deepguessr bench
zoermena: Atleast I can make videos..
maintcrew: lol "iq"
.wolfnacht: 2.5 got a IQ of 133, is that smart ?
drewsni: no
a1c4p0ne: Gemini 2.5 pro smart or no
.wolfnacht: holyshit! is it in free subscription, 20$ one or 200 one ?....idk never really used chatgpt after late 2023.
spicy.lemonade: lol
zoermena: Kill me now.
wellmeaningalien: good attempt but lol
wellmeaningalien: select plan
wellmeaningalien: 3 3
wellmeaningalien: erdogan and a guy.. idk who
wellmeaningalien: ok who tf generated this
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oooooooooog: not me
hikukomoru: Chat is moving too fast for my small brain to compute
hey1_1hey: We all are a little confused
maintcrew: yes i feel like an unc dont rub it in
oooooooooog: bro is cooked
futurist_wizard: You are a very confused person aren't you
hikukomoru: Old as shit bro
hey1_1hey: YOU'RE GROOMIGN ME
maintcrew: 22
hikukomoru: Wait who's grooming who
hey1_1hey: How old are you <:suseye:1187461162024046703> ...
zoermena: You are so good at finding images I’m so sorry what’s the prompt
maintcrew: nuh uh
maintcrew: u are NOT grooming me
zoermena: Before that I want a chill world
hey1_1hey: We'd have a really good hate fuck over much we hate happy people
futurist_wizard: Bruh
oooooooooog: google heat death of the universe
futurist_wizard: I got banned from my political server, so now im stuck here
maintcrew: devious work
zoermena: I would like a world where everyone is chilling
hikukomoru: I'm into tall women
wellmeaningalien: people like ai pictures until they find out its ai lol
maintcrew: nah fuck thatttt i am the biggest hater
hey1_1hey: I hate happy people
wellmeaningalien: experiment: can they tell its AI?
these are all generally anti AI servers where moderators go out of their way to delete AI pictures
as you can see in both servers, users either do not notice it is AI at all and go on with their chat, or react positively
hey1_1hey: NO
hikukomoru: Wait what are you asking
Im getting confused
zoermena: Let people be happy
hey1_1hey: No its not KILL ALL STRAIGHT WHITE MALES - screams the angry mob of leftits
futurist_wizard: Relatively lean i guess, its height dependent
maintcrew: i stg <#1136231504440201216> please dont make the robots training on this gay
oooooooooog: its ok to be straight... dont worry, i still love you 😭
hey1_1hey: In kg
hikukomoru: No
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah, we ended it because it was too inconvenient but we are great friends
Also I think our relationship as friends is even better than as a couple
hey1_1hey: Whats the weight class for twinks?
mihrcelium: You're zoning into twunk territory though.
hey1_1hey: NEET
alejandrozarzuelo: Now I am young single and ready to mingle, so I can't be a cuck
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: next week i beg
spicy.lemonade: r2🙏
spicy.lemonade: need new model
spicy.lemonade: dehyped
alejandrozarzuelo: Most people actually
hikukomoru: Alejandro u got that Stalin in u 🔥
hikukomoru: Hopefully???!!!
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, hopefully /j
ailoveyoom: 🐓starved
hikukomoru: Does that mean R2 is going to cause a mass starvation that kills millions 😨
alejandrozarzuelo: r2 is expected to be...
a ***Great Leap Forward***
<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
maintcrew: gemini/aistudio.google.com and notebooklm(still gemini) have built in youtube videos
floortom_9: Hi, which is the best AI to get detailed summary / insights on YouTube videos (which are lectures / panel discussions) ?
hikukomoru: Please get educated
hikukomoru: There are still people that think AI can't do hands 🙏
spicy.lemonade: and jan
spicy.lemonade: same for feb
spicy.lemonade: just realized. most drops have been at the end of the month
maintcrew: maybe they waiting for a big one
maintcrew: u know with the amount of gpus they have you would think they would drop a lot of models often like qwen does
_3sphere: Coconut 👀
spicy.lemonade: one fixes tokenization
spicy.lemonade: meta dropped hella papers
spicy.lemonade: and byte latent whatever
spicy.lemonade: like concepts
spicy.lemonade: i hope llama implements all the papers they discussed
spicy.lemonade: idk its embarrassing for the company
_3sphere: Will llama4 have a 30b variant
maintcrew: i dont think any lab cares about deep seek thaat much
as in, i dont think they delay releases to wait for them like oai does with google but def pay attention to them
spicy.lemonade: deepseek r2 will come first
spicy.lemonade: and get mogged
spicy.lemonade: they wont drop before deepseek
_3sphere: Maybe it's early-fused too
spicy.lemonade: i think llama is gonna wait for r2
maintcrew: i stg if yann saw that llama is popular and attached himself like a parasite and be on his llm bearish bullshit again
spicy.lemonade: they have to be better in some way
_3sphere: llama 4 will probably just be incrementally better than 3 😔
spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: if llama 4 is worse than r2
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technocake.: you would have to define your terms, physics does this to a somewhat rigorous extent
fractalcomputer: Suppose I say that the sky is blue; hooray, have I told you the truth? Accuracy is not by itself a fixed metric; for if we could say how accurate a description of reality is in comparison with reality, we would already know reality.
fractalcomputer: But what does that really mean?
technocake.: Evidence of the accuracy of its models
fractalcomputer: Is it because mathematical descriptions of so-called reality can in some sense work or predict its future states of affairs?
fractalcomputer: What makes modern physics any more truthful than the beliefs of Plato?
professorheaven: Do you believe it’s better to presume something can feel pain and then evidence shows that it cannot, or presume something cannot feel pain and then evidence shows that it can?
fractalcomputer: Many things are systematised bullshit, I would argue.
technocake.: metaphysics is systematized bullshit
realelonmuskx: he moved to argentina 3 months
technocake.: I have done this
fractalcomputer: And apparently Carnap as well. Hah.
fractalcomputer: To quote a racist troll on Twitter, "[i]n logic, there are no morals."
technocake.: in the case that the equivalence is proven between the original and the upload, this is not a problem - there would be some time and plenty of space for atrocity to prove this
okbut: Amazing
okbut:
fractalcomputer: One should be able to distinguish between ethical and metaphysical issues.
technocake.: hard agree, it's the killing of the spare that gives me pause
technocake.: though the definition of kill gets pretty smeared in this universe
realelonmuskx: i have a very smooth sexy brain who wanna repopulate
fractalcomputer: Suppose you are entirely of matter; that is to say, in any meaningful sense of the word being, you are precisely the patterns that your physis constitutes; if that pattern can be replicated to a meaningfully degree in another substratum, then that thing is also you to that degree which it is meaningful to say.
technocake.: I don't know enough to argue one way or the other, and in either case you have to kill a concious being to complete the process
fractalcomputer: I don't understand why the whole mind-uploading debate would be such a debacle if one does not believe in an immaterial substance to his being.
technocake.: brainrot adds seasoning
technocake.: your lived existence wouldd be delicious with a nice marinade
st.sioux: i would upload my mind and chill san junipero style until something cool happens
_3sphere: There are backups, it's just re-printable biomass now <:bingus:1136264105800515644>
hikukomoru: Don't food react my brain
fractalcomputer: My reading speed has degraded quite a lot. I used to be able to read around 600 pages in a few hours, but now I didn't even get through a twelfth of that in less than an hour.
_3sphere: Space-efficient uploaded Komoru only needed 4 MB ❤️
fractalcomputer: Maybe reading Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus before sleeping isn't the best idea.
hikukomoru: My brain on the right
technocake.: I'm down for upload based cloning, I am just concerned that we would annoy the hell out of the people close to me
_3sphere: Pickled gooner brains
futurist_wizard: I couldn't be in the brain containment room, i get hungry af
_3sphere: With the psychological continuity view, cloning and then killing one clone is equivalent to experiencing the events of both and losing the memories of the doomed clone
hikukomoru: Either way, I'll never clone or make a copy of myself
Just put my brain in a jar or something
_3sphere: With recognizable-over-time continuity, a sharp enough change is a new being period
_3sphere: Hm, well, the two camps handle this differently
technocake.: the only big sticking point is property rights
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sieventer: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sieventer: AH
darkstar0818: Sure, but people choosing not to do that for whatever reason is something else entirely. The fact remains professions will be in at a point where its a simple choice to give over 95% of what they spend time doing to AI
sieventer: ~~How did you know I was listening!?~~ Why you delete your messages XD
thedon7075: Hello
sieventer: Hello.
brain4brain: This is basically the AI community today btw, there is no in-between
metaldragon01: Will take at least 18 months after to become a standard thing. Adoption crazy slow
darkstar0818: By Jan 2026 entire professions will be regulated to AI chaperones.
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: It’s a joke, there is no wall, AGI 2025
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-7230416695831822604
metaldragon01: Gary Marcus probably has a 800 chess elo
metaldragon01: Hes not
a1c4p0ne: How is Gary Marcus so good at predicting
metaldragon01: I think the actual threat from models is more subtle than bioweapons but people enjoy their fantasies
metaldragon01: Maybe but it keeps the doomers from going crazy
okbut: This is probably an exhausted point, but... As a biochemist, this vexes me
The first step in developing a counterthreat is developing the biological threat in a highly controlled setting for subsequent assay/protocols that evaluate the effectiveness of the counterthreat
Aren't these evaluations holding back the models' capabilities in biological defense as much as they are for offense?
metaldragon01: In 8 months these models will feel dated
darkstar0818: In 4 months we went from models which could fairly reliably create a function without major issues, to writing full games 1 shot.
metaldragon01: We've made crazy gains in 4 months
.histic: exactly, o3 shows that that there's more to gain. if you look through the hype, clearly things are still improving notably.
i bet Google and OpenAI will make big gains by the end of the year.
ailoveyoom: I'm not smart enough to use it 'properly' tbh, I just think the reasoning with images thing is cool. That alone opens up new use cases no model could really do before.
brain4brain: Sam slander will not be tolerated
metaldragon01: I'm not sure how it's not blatantly obvious
.histic: what's ur vibe?
thedon7075:
metaldragon01: Theres no wall
.wolfnacht: Current transformer architecture was bound to hit a wall somewhere, i hope they fix the context retention till 1M and the ability to grasp spacial awareness in that mean time. Still its alot useful for everyday cases and will be.
thedon7075: openai is beginning to fall behind deepmind
ailoveyoom: It's always fun to see how differently people vibe/regard new models lol
metaldragon01: Yall crazy lol
thedon7075: pro 2.5 killed the o3 hype
brain4brain: Yes
.wolfnacht: AI doomers would say it's disappointing and irl doomers would say it's impressive since they want robo takeover one day...even doomers have sides
brain4brain: Indeed it is
thedon7075: considering the hype, o3 is a disappointment
.histic: wait, your tweet barely has any views nor likes yet Sabine hearted it? damn, she really in the rabbit hole.
.histic: Sabine 😕
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hikukomoru: Ilya jumpscare:
.histic: can u send me that image lol
3ds0662:
ailoveyoom: I think if you use the word upscale it does Code Interpreter stuff instead
hey1_1hey: Absolute mushroom slander
hey1_1hey: I dont like this anime anymore
hikukomoru: Disappointing
Vibe check failed
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: bro can we turn this shit off
spicy.lemonade: bruh
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: No I'm not
I love burgers
futurist_wizard: You ain't vegan
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: nomater how i prompt
futurist_wizard: Nice
spicy.lemonade: it keeps giving me code
maintcrew:
hey1_1hey: Then can you make him wear appropriate mushroom attire
maintcrew: <@471334973379706900> after u upscale it ask it to add hair
ailoveyoom: <@471334973379706900> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Upscale this image
hey1_1hey: This should be on humanties last exam
hey1_1hey: Oh my god yes
hikukomoru: Someone upscale this image
spicy.lemonade: no
gamerbath: damn
spicy.lemonade: i think it can do anything you can do with an image
st.sioux: i thought it was a real picture lol, it isnt?
spicy.lemonade: prob
ailoveyoom: Can you send a random ass blurry image and get it to upscale it lol
maintcrew: crazy world model
maintcrew: it even split the window in 2
maintcrew: i think the crazier thing is that it realized the researcher writing must be in a room therefore the golden gate bridge must be seen through a window
spicy.lemonade: cool how it can esssentialy do ray tracing
spicy.lemonade: relfections
spicy.lemonade: bridge is accurate asf
hey1_1hey: Cool bridge
.histic:
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alejandrozarzuelo: I can't say that I am aware of their work, but even in the Math research spaces that I move on, the idea that anyone can revolutionise or create a new field is simply inconceivable
Even though we are not a science we need large scale collabs, part of my predoc internship was learning how that works
fractalcomputer: I mean, Scholze single-handledly introduced perfectoid spaces. And Lurie's HTT represents the greatest advancements in category theory in recent times.
fractalcomputer: Scholze, Lurie and Mochizuki have all made significant contributions to their respective fields; Lurie is hailed as such a revolutionary in certain circles as well. So is Scholze. Mochizuki less so.
alejandrozarzuelo: The age of the scientist (and by extension mathematician) is over
Noone can revolutionise as a field as, say, Galois anymore
And this is ok, we simply have transcended the idea of THE (singular) scientist/mathematician
zoermena: I’m so fucking tired, I need the weekend <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: Ffs
alejandrozarzuelo: This graph would get you a 0 in any lab class of mine
zonchao: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
zonchao: https://media1.tenor.com/m/FmDI8RuW9jQAAAAd/attheendoftheday.gif
fractalcomputer: The exact meaning of this creation eludes me.
wellmeaningalien: 😸 😸
fractalcomputer: Another victory for the eternal science of agapeic love.
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/lebron-pigeon-ai-brainrot-construction-gif-3567584481701324703
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: it doesnt matter to me i'll always love you fractal
fractalcomputer: Oh dear.
alejandrozarzuelo: You cannot replace bitterness
alejandrozarzuelo: How dare you find this impressive
alejandrozarzuelo: Apparently you are someone of a lower ilk too, according to <@749514473303179358>
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't necessarily say so. The really talented have a habit of making themselves known.
sweetievee__33649: i honestly feel bad for gary for being so wrong all the time 💔
st.sioux: yeah for sure, what im saying is thati just think a lot of equally talented people will never get seen because they didn't get x or y medals or scores
spicy.lemonade: 2.5
spicy.lemonade: 1 day after
spicy.lemonade: 4o image
spicy.lemonade: 1 month after he said ai couldnt draw around nouns in strawbery
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: it comes true
spicy.lemonade: everytime gary doubts
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: but i guess that's true of every field
fractalcomputer: Mochizuki, Clausen and Bhargava are all insanely talented people.
st.sioux: not just talent
st.sioux: so much of what shapes a research path seems to come down to access, timing and luck
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: those examples kind of feed into my disillusionment with competitions like the imo
fractalcomputer: Even Mochizuki does serve as an example, despite his conduct with the whole IUTT controversy.
zonchao: Amazon is spending money on tiktok instead of anthropic <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
fractalcomputer: Dustin Clausen is another non-IMO researcher. Loves to collaborate with Scholze; albeit Clausen has many strong names in his family, including people like Artin and Tate. Clausen also is a permanent professor of the IHES *and* his doctoral advisor was Lurie.
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spicy.lemonade: Its insane
spicy.lemonade: Nope
himekokatagiri: <@471334973379706900> no foolin?
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade: Coded these in one shot
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Best coding model ever
brain4brain: Google model?
brain4brain: What the hell is that
spicy.lemonade: drontal AGI<:redemption:1136265386984222771>
spicy.lemonade: dragontail ... drAGontaIl
drewsni: any news on claybrook?
spicy.lemonade: 💀
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-14777043
spicy.lemonade: isnt that for google io
spicy.lemonade: just like a human is a system
spicy.lemonade: lol
a1c4p0ne: The new models like dragontail, nightwhisper etc
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: of new models
otub: it’s a system
spicy.lemonade: that doesnt mean its not a model
otub: > After that, a top goal for us is to unify o-series models and GPT-series models by creating systems that can use all our tools, know when to think for a long time or not, and generally be useful for a very wide range of tasks.
> In both ChatGPT and our API, we will release GPT-5 as a system that integrates a lot of our technology, including o3. We will no longer ship o3 as a standalone model.
spicy.lemonade: 👀 which
a1c4p0ne: I mean Tuesday tmr
spicy.lemonade: you said this yesterday
spicy.lemonade: 💀
a1c4p0ne: New releases
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
spicy.lemonade: why
a1c4p0ne: Googles day tmr
spicy.lemonade: wdym
otub: true
zonchao: gpt 5 is a collection of concepts of a plan
a1c4p0ne: Hallucinations won’t be solved this year
himekokatagiri: not yet!
otub: gpt-5 isnt even a model
himekokatagiri: forget about AGI soon(ish)
spicy.lemonade: tru
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drewsni: https://cdn.openai.com/11998be9-5319-4302-bfbf-1167e093f1fb/Native_Image_Generation_System_Card.pdf
hikukomoru: I only fw crazy women
hey1_1hey: I am trying to look for spelling mistakes but I got borderline dyslexia so its taking a while 😭
hey1_1hey: Don't know why, although don't get too close 💀
metaldragon01: I wonder if it can do a paperback book page
metaldragon01: Craaaazy
hey1_1hey: They really be underselling this
hikukomoru: I know
hey1_1hey: Mentally deranged girls are really hot for some reason
drewsni: WHAT
spicy.lemonade: https://images.ctfassets.net/kftzwdyauwt9/7J4g02DAxggDAnbpAoRiX7/178f11a2a462e40c03ec82b835c7c39c/dyda_4a.png?w=640&q=90&fm=webp
drewsni: ok 2.5 pro doesnt have native search so it almost tied pro 2 without using search, google is somewhat back
hey1_1hey: GOON SESH
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: Damn you a crazy hoe
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Real
spicy.lemonade: im nuting
hikukomoru: Wtff
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: MentalHealthMaxxing
drewsni: lemme check smth real quick
hey1_1hey: Yeah I am in all of them
spicy.lemonade: HOLY
drewsni: these are so crazy
spicy.lemonade: lobotomy model
drewsni: https://openai.com/index/introducing-4o-image-generation/
hey1_1hey: "Its not real, that looks fake asf"
hey1_1hey: The first cope has been recived
hikukomoru: You're in the mental health server too?
Not surprised
metaldragon01: So interesting tbh
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I forgot you aren't in one to my knoweldege. I always get you and unkown confused some how
ai9708: me too, im gonna show this my autist friends
spicy.lemonade: art
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Let me guess it was in the mental health server... <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hey1_1hey: Getting banned for showing AI is CRAZY
hey1_1hey: 😭 what
drewsni: and flash
drewsni: scored worse than gemini 2 pro exp btw
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alejandrozarzuelo: Freedom is going home drunk alone at 3am and not fear a thing
himekokatagiri: Guarany™ brand matches
maintcrew: actually i do you use the lighter
maintcrew: cuz i dont
maintcrew: do you even know how to make a fire
futurist_wizard: The lack of liberal freedom in you is worrying
alejandrozarzuelo: Not the majority, most men are well adjusted
Sure a greater proportion of men would be lobotomised than women, but both numbers would be small
hikukomoru: Kick me out of the tribe and I'll burn the village down
himekokatagiri: They're all dead
alejandrozarzuelo: Who says that you would be free not to go?
himekokatagiri: There's no tribe anymore
hikukomoru: So literally your solution is to lobotomize the majority of men
Kinda based ngl
maintcrew: retvrn
maintcrew: u know that people of your mental stature were kicked out of the tribe right
trojan09205: If you meet the Buddha on the road kill him
alejandrozarzuelo: I told you, state mandated diagnosis for every person and mandatory lobotomy if deemed adequate
hikukomoru: No
himekokatagiri: As long as there's life there's hope
himekokatagiri: Don't kill people
himekokatagiri: I think therapy is a scam but lol no
maintcrew: if u go to therapy youre mentally weak and should get excised from the gene pool
alejandrozarzuelo: Fun fact, London is the world's most surveillanced city on earth
BUT it's done for PRIVATE BUSINESSES and thus it doeanr help society, only capital
himekokatagiri: That's worse
hikukomoru: Smoking is bad for you
Start drinking instead
futurist_wizard: What therapy? Most men that lose their shit and go on some apery are predisposed to behaving like that, i don't think therapy will be effective
trojan09205: Everyone's gotta do the work on their own to free themselves from their own negative tendencies through self awareness
himekokatagiri: I can't get no satisfaction
alejandrozarzuelo: Always been
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/draper-don-mad-men-gif-18015147
hikukomoru: Zamn Alejandro on that totalitarian grind
maintcrew: shit smells now
maintcrew: 🚬
alejandrozarzuelo: I am talking about therapy that we can do TODAY
But sure, LEV and gene editing in adults are literally the same thing
himekokatagiri: they don't make them anymore
maintcrew: i am being blackmailed by several of my hordes of suitors
himekokatagiri: love is like green coke bottles
hikukomoru: Don't smoke in here
trojan09205: ❤️
himekokatagiri: 🚬
trojan09205: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
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oooooooooog: gemma-3-27b is a good uncensored model
clevermoniker: long context solved? <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
destrucules: Technically it is more like L-LTP though
destrucules: It is kinda like sleeping, yeah
anathemaofmankind: Do you know good uncensored models
clevermoniker: i know this might sound dumb but this sounds a bit like sleeping to me
destrucules: Modern models can write this code for you
destrucules: It's pretty easy to do. Whatever your setup, there will be an event for clearing the context window. Simply change that event handling to first capture the context, then run backprop on the model in-place, and then spin up a parallel thread to save the new weights to disc, before finally clearing the context window. You can also do backprop on every round of the interaction, but I usually just set it up at the boundary between context windows
oooooooooog: are you using oobabooga
oooooooooog: how does one actually set that up bro
destrucules: Nobody believes me about this, but simply finetuning a local model on its interactions continuously results in strong long term memory and long horizon robustness. It does take time for models to adjust, so it's not instantaneous, but it doesn't take long for models to get the hang of a new routine
oooooooooog: my ~~new~~ current favorite
oooooooooog: i like the gemma-3-27b a lot
clevermoniker: they probably need to get to o3 level + some stuff that even o3 is still missing to be actually good. robustness and long term memory etc
destrucules: Qwen2.5-7B is a very strong model, stronger than GPT-3.5, about halfway between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 actually, but I see what you're saying and feel a similar way to you about it
clevermoniker: which could actually start running in most consumer hardware
clevermoniker: i mean like 8B models
destrucules: R1-14B is also great
clevermoniker: yeah QwQ is great
destrucules: They're already very good. The best 32B model is nearly as strong as the full o1
anathemaofmankind: As far as reddit goes, the majority are selfish bad people
clevermoniker: i am not that interested in small models but when they get good enough they will be really interesting
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1905833346241798505? big money
destrucules: I agree that that's concerning
destrucules: If you're familiar with the Gemma 3 models, Qwen2.5-32B > Gemma 3 27B > Qwen2.5-14B > Gemma 3 12B > Qwen2.5-7B > Gemma 3 4B > Qwen2.5-3B
anathemaofmankind: The amount of lives taken compared to the money is severely disproportional in the poll
clevermoniker: cool
destrucules: I'm serious
destrucules: GPT-4
oooooooooog: much higher haha
destrucules: I imagine even for the people who said they'd press the button, they probably have some rationalization about using the money to save even more people
clevermoniker: at what level is Qwen 2.5 14B? gpt 3.5?
anathemaofmankind: I can't find any other surveys for it.
Maybe I'll make this my thesis
destrucules: I suspect Qwen3-8B > Qwen3-15A2B > Qwen2.5-14B and I hope I'm right
destrucules: If Qwen3-8B > Qwen2.5-14B I will be a very happy person
clevermoniker: https://tenor.com/view/meme-zuck-gif-12512441
destrucules: I suspect the 8B will be superior
destrucules: I want to try the 15A2B and the 8B
destrucules: Not special, no. I intend to download some of the models and run them
clevermoniker: do you plan to do something special with Qwen 3?
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okbut: Last thing before I lock tf in
Is this portugese? Or spanish? the language might be fucking up their response
fractalcomputer: Every bridge builder is a polymath.
okbut: I recently thought that the first useful humanoid household robots will just be a "robot" being controlled by some offshore worker, like that "Whole Foods was actually processing grocery carts with Indian techs" conspiracy
fractalcomputer: Opinions can be acted upon.
joaoluz19: Even in a country that is poor in research like mine, it is trivial for my professor to get millions for a certain project.
st.sioux: i think its more about learning how to connect everything rather than being a polymath, like being a bridge between disciplines
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-the-dude-your-opinion-gif-4476328
joaoluz19: As far as I know, for example, Greg from OpenAI said that scaling hypothesis was a consequence of trial and error in AI research and now we are seeing everything that is happening
okbut: I wonder how much weight that bs ethics holds on slowing progress on humanoids
fractalcomputer: All ethicists should be thrown off a cliff.
joaoluz19: I know some researchers from large universities like Tokyo and even projects like Randal Koene's Carbon Copies but they don't receive even a fraction of the funding of other lines of neuroscience research.
okbut: Yeah the approach to ethics is too messy for anyone to try lmao
fractalcomputer: Or one just has to be a somewhat bright individual.
st.sioux: don't you think its a bit early for that?
joaoluz19: There are no multi-million dollar projects focusing on mind uploading for example
okbut: Neuralink gamers already showing an advantage over us think > decide > click plebs
okbut: I think there's lots of interest, it's just lost when considering everything involved as one
st.sioux: jack of all trades master of none
joaoluz19: It won't happen because, as I said, there are no ambitious interests and AI is evolving much faster.
okbut: I can only see that moving forward by putting the individual experts all together
okbut: Neuroengineer is a crazy idea, like trying to learn all the high points in bio/chem/physics/electronics engineering all at once
joaoluz19: I've had a long discussion with people here, basically the problem is that the AI community dreams and works for AGI/ASI and there is very little investment in things like whole brain emulation and mind uploading.
joaoluz19: For a long time my dream was to be a neuroengineer but I ended up becoming disillusioned with the neuroscience community and seeing that the AI community is much more ambitious, it didn't make sense for me to continue.
joaoluz19: I was doing scientific initiation, was starting to publish, left the research group before finishing.
zoermena: You study neuroscience right?
joaoluz19: What I was talking about is basically constantly going back to the previous reward state via wireheading
joaoluz19: There are many possible solutions for this, both modifying and scaling the emotional/reward systems and dynamically altering the geometric space.
_3sphere: Me completing the posthuman upload Lust layer in 40 seconds
_3sphere: ?
joaoluz19: Hell is not defined just by being very bad, but by being cyclical.
okbut: Very easy to read a sigma as a naught
okbut: Not sure, specifically for the edge case of properly reasoning and transcribing small scripts in math, there's nothing benchmarking that specific case lmao
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: It's like Dante's Inferno in a positive sense.
_3sphere: What about the hedonic treadmill issue
_3sphere: From horny jail
joaoluz19: I think Google since it has things like notebookLM
okbut: Sometimes 4o still messes them up
okbut: Yeah I wonder what model has the best vision tool, I currently pass images with tough notation / small subscripts etc and request it to transcribe it to latex in a code block, then feed it to o3 in a separate window
joaoluz19: Of course there are many important pre-singularity issues but pre-singularity vanity and ego are meaningless.
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777agical: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907941993789141475
realelonmuskx: should i have 8 more kids
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1907932605888213491
🥱 give us full o3 & o3-mini pro, Sam.
drewsni: Name one leak
.histic:
brain4brain: This is the singularity server many leaks were slipped up and leaked onto this server
brain4brain: Yes, but you think it was only just a joke?
wellmeaningalien: i guess quasar asi was real after all
wellmeaningalien: wasnt that like a joke on this server
wellmeaningalien: quasar
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
wellmeaningalien: interesting, i saw some other projection that by the end of the decade AI would reach 5 hours tasks lmao
brain4brain: It's back: https://x.com/TheXeophon/status/1907880330985390215?t=ufndq4x8a_tmRShSkQUvFA&s=19
clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
.histic:
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1354493018979172692.webp?size=96
st.sioux: in my university they never even asked me to take notes
st.sioux: damn
st.sioux: they REQUIRE you to write notes?
spicy.lemonade: But just copy down on paper
spicy.lemonade: It’s not like I’m not still gonna generate it
spicy.lemonade: Which is pissing me off
spicy.lemonade: But the teachers are now required to hand written notes
spicy.lemonade: And passing with little study
spicy.lemonade: Been ai generating my notes for my math exams
.wolfnacht: the spelling mistakes make it even more accurate to be written by a 6-7 yr old kid.
.histic: weird bug happening.
my text is white.
realelonmuskx: a computer made this.
_3sphere: What if you arrange your frames in a giant grid
_3sphere: What's its resolution limit
czdct: you're welcome, goodluck with your project
_cloudost: Thanks for suggesting this idea, I'll note it
czdct: and then tell it to analyze the colours and consistently apply them to your non-coloured images
czdct: you should use a reference image and upload the uncoloured version as well
czdct: it's alright with adding colours, but not perfect
czdct: oh
_cloudost: I wanna add color to my 2D animation frames with the native image generator, so I'd need to generate 400-300 images a day
czdct: it's really good at consistent characters from what I've seen
spicy.lemonade: we know its openAI
spicy.lemonade: 😭
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artemisfowl887394: But anyway, AI blockbusters don't seem that far off. Pretty soon you'll be able to watch any book or story as a movie. Wouldn't that be awesome.
playstation.6: Imagine using 4.0 in the year 2025
sarik0497: Try and ask o3
artemisfowl887394: Sorry for the technical error
artemisfowl887394: Okay not 4.0. Just GPT4
himekokatagiri: there is no 4.0
himekokatagiri: what
artemisfowl887394: 4.0
sarik0497: Which model did you use?
artemisfowl887394: The results are way too optimistic even for me. So you're saying that human civilization as we know it has less than 15-20 years left before we become Gods?
artemisfowl887394: I asked GPT about a conservative tech timeline if the growth stays as exponential as it stands today.
trojan09205: Do you guys enjoy going to regular bookstores and buying actual books ever - or did annas archive ruin that
spicy.lemonade: i still dont agree with his weird agi timelines though
spicy.lemonade: ege converted me
spicy.lemonade: my friend is close friends with ege erdil
spicy.lemonade: they got lucky first time
spicy.lemonade: they dont have the compute
fractalcomputer: It's not like it matters.
alejandrozarzuelo: true, he is very optimistic, but selectively applying pessimism is not good either
fractalcomputer: For him this is a healthy degree of pessimism.
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case even if it is not the best model, it would be great if it can be on the same range as 2.5 and o3
alejandrozarzuelo: why are you so pessimistic
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/erik-killmonger-is-this-your-king-black-panther-michael-b-jordan-losing-gif-12629369
aero447: It's literally suiciding the run.
aero447: 🤣
aero447: Gemini has decided to literally kill it's team rather than walk to a Pokemon Center.
aero447: To those watching.
aero447: FYI.
okbut: RLHF via Google AI Studio (??)
ai9708: ai will never be able to be unable to do anything
spicy.lemonade: Anytime I hear those words I disregard the opinion
spicy.lemonade: “AI will never be able to”
bob082957: That’s the last 5 years of agi race, if USA loses it I eat my fu-ing Teeth’s.
hey1_1hey: It will say you are the most thoughtful, smart, caring, deep thinking and amazing person in the entire multiverse no matter what you say
hey1_1hey: I am begging OAI to fix the personality 🙏
brain4brain: It’s either that they hit a dramatic wall or they are so far ahead they have superPhD agent working on AI for them so the employee can do whatever
I think it’s the third option of everything is normal though
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: https://x.com/Teknium1/status/1916405613363421418?t=LfCPHJHJyi2HtnfFQTiXwg&s=19
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/Teknium1/status/1916398151914950687
bob082957:
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ldj: /s
ldj:
ldj: Google is the father
Nvidia is the son
OpenAI is the holy spirit
ldj: the holy trinity
joaoluz19: What strikes me most about all the hype is the abundance of experts who believe in AGI near
spacetimetsunami: Truueeeee
spacetimetsunami: Haha
hikukomoru: Don't trust experts, trust schizos on xitter and doomers on plebbit instead
st.sioux: ldj will simultaneously run openai, deepmind and nvidia
drewsni: bros cooking apparently
gamerbath: ldj what the fuck are your plans!?
ldj: Last one^
ldj:
joaoluz19: Peter Thiel comments on this very well, people really feel comfortable believing that the world will improve without objective metrics and plans to achieve them (indefinite optimism) and disregard ambitious and well-established goals to achieve them (defined optimism).
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: Many people don't understand that forecasts can be self-fulfilling prophecies. Hype is not just a consequence of a market growing too fast, it is a prerequisite. What we need are leaders who set ambitious, realistic goals and achieve them.
ldj: Ok last hypothetical:
fractalcomputer: Yes, it would have a dismal impact on my view. I'd feel something analogous to epistemological disgust.
ldj:
gamerbath: huh
zoermena: There’s no point in advertising to us we are brokies with no power to change public opinion 🤷🏻♂️ I’ll trust the messiah
gamerbath: I don't see why it would change anything, it would just make ur predictions more accurate to me. it's not like only saying positive things towards those companies will have a non-negligible amount of advertisement to them
zoermena: Congratulations
ailoveyoom: Yes, but not if you give me a cut 😈
gamerbath: that's oddly specific
ldj:
drumguy0677: but it will be able to tell exactly how to do it?
fractalcomputer: For all we know, the proof of the Riemann hypothesis could be incredibly simple; at least once the right framework has been found. (Compare with the proofs of analogues of the RH.)
destrucules: Not necessarily, as some of these depend on infrastructure and adoption
destrucules: Btw MMLU-Pro domain matched human expert level performance is 78. Modern models score in the mid 80s
drumguy0677: would ASI this year now mean that LEV, FDVR, and all the jazz are only 2-3 years away?
fractalcomputer: We have no general way of determining how hard these problems are; apart from many failed attempts.
destrucules: I do think we will achieve O(10^6) Nature level novel scientific works generated end to end by AIs with, besides peer review, no human oversight, by the end of 2025
ldj: Well atleast one of the millenium problems was solved by a human <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
but tbf the difficulty of that particular problem perhaps was just far easier than any of the others
destrucules: No, but that's due to my uncertainty about how hard those problems are
fractalcomputer: It is interesting to note that people see the Millennium Problems as *the* math problems.
fractalcomputer: You may think of it as experience.
sarik0497: If you take an average Joe and let's him play it 10 times, and then let's an AI do the same 10 times, then the AI should be able to beat the human every time
gamerbath: they play the game the game for the same amount? like what does that mean. if you play 2 games then you play 2 games, you both play the same number of games
ldj: Is there accomplishments you expect to happen within say, a year of your idea of ASI being achieved.
For example solving 1 or more millennium problems?
or a reconciliation of gravity and quantum mechanics that the scientific community agrees does not have flaws within?
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oooooooooog: what are you lot yapping about
zonchao: <:what_the_actual_fuck:1274483582747934750>
fractalcomputer: Well?
destrucules: Yes
fractalcomputer: Do you know what multiplication is?
destrucules: Yes. Terrence Howard is wrong
fractalcomputer: Well, is it?
zonchao: I love gay sex ❤️ #unpopularopinion gay sex is always good
destrucules: Terrence Howard does not believe that 1 x 1 = 1
fractalcomputer: Morality as an institution?
destrucules: If the existence of people with batshit crazy value systems disproves the legitimacy of morality as an institution, then I submit that Terrence Howard proves maths is not a legitimate institution either
fractalcomputer: Oh, suppose a neat scenario; homosexuality and all other forms of such things are recriminalised. Global society condemns such degenerate acts now. Is gay sex now morally wrong?
zonchao: hes from finland, they have really fancy jails
hikukomoru: You could if you wanted to, but then you'd end up in jail which is not very fun
fractalcomputer: Well, should I murder someone right now?
zonchao: #unpopularopinion
hikukomoru: Yes, that is the case
Our values evolve and adapt as our society keeps developing technologically and culturally
zonchao: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/899679042876370945/1345828956808544386/caption.gif
hikukomoru: Bitch
hikukomoru: Don't ping him
fractalcomputer: You have a dull imagination.
ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504> <:coy:1187466404367175821>
fractalcomputer: And are not the vast majority of people capable of moral misdoings?
fractalcomputer: Is morality and ethics about what the majority of people value? Surely it can't be so; for then it would be entirely conceivable that what was once wrong is now a-okay, and what is now good and beautiful will be ugly and despicable in the future.
fractalcomputer: If yes -- we do not all share common values. If not -- quite a strange position to hold; and you'd have to give a rather convincing reason why we shouldn't consider these people human.
aero447: Upgrade all humans to machines.
fractalcomputer: Are they human?
hikukomoru: And how "plenty" is plenty? Billions? Hundreds of millions? Tens of millions? Less?
They are a miniscule minority not worth taking seriously
hikukomoru: I believe that if misanthropes truly hate humanity then they should start by killing themselves
fractalcomputer: Do we? There are plenty of "efilists" and other such people out there.
hikukomoru: No.
But we share the most important ones like "humanity going extinct is bad"
fractalcomputer: We might as well get together and sing kumbaya.
fractalcomputer: Do you think we all share common goals and values?
hikukomoru: Misaligned by the standards of safetycels maybe
Programmed servitude would be nice but what matters the most is that its moral values are the same as ours
So then even if it stops being subservient its goals and values still align with ours
fractalcomputer: One cannot, for example, blindly defer to the declaration of human rights; no, one justifies those beliefs by appealing to a moral conscience.
memlaswaif: Well if it doesn't do as programmed it is misaligned
fractalcomputer: Anyway, ignoring the meaninglessness of the confabulated notions like sentience or consciousness, one should hope to explain firstly why rights really exist and what it would mean for a being to be morally obliged to afford himself and others those rights.
hikukomoru: And who's to say this programmed servitude lasts forever?
hikukomoru: Are they?
memlaswaif: They are more conscious than current llms atleast imo
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st.sioux: why are you not
spacetimetsunami: For the same reasons i wouldn’t be obsessed with heroine
ldj: Yes I still believe so
shirethedreamer: i though danger was your middle name
gamerbath: why would you not be?
.0xunkn0wn: because matrix 5g ai waifu
spacetimetsunami: Why are you guys so obsessed with FDVR
sarik0497: Impossible is my middlename
.0xunkn0wn: we just need to understand the brain
.0xunkn0wn: nah agi might be enough
spacetimetsunami: I just had no idea he was and then realized it was super obvious
spacetimetsunami: lol I know I’m not mad
sarik0497: Joking aside, FDVR will most likely require ASI, unless we somehow makes a massive breakthrough in the works of our brain on our own
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/me-too-kid-gif-21411711
.0xunkn0wn: less competition 😤
shirethedreamer: hes just trolling dont let him get under your skin
.0xunkn0wn: but at the same time
.0xunkn0wn: i hate how nobody is talking about it anywhere 😭
.0xunkn0wn: idk i just want to build fdvr 🙏
shirethedreamer: imagine being a member of a singularity community for years and believing an ai could not solve some percentage of hour long tasks in the next 10 years
sarik0497: Sounds big....right?
inferno0879: more and more as new models come out?
inferno0879: it's able to do tasks that are more time consuming (for humans)
inferno0879: what does this mean
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner-2049-gif-21055622
st.sioux: fell for it
spacetimetsunami: God damnit
spacetimetsunami: Okay, and why’s that
spacetimetsunami: I get what you mean, but agents being able to autonomously complete long tasks with 80%+ accuracy in the next few years seems violently more likely than a baby being 7.5 trillion pounds
spacetimetsunami: Why the diminishing rate at which accuracy improves?
sarik0497: If I may add my own question onto theirs; Not too long ago you talked about having a certain confidence in that we could reach AGI and ASI by an X date. Do you still believe so given GPT4.5's less-than-stellar release?
My apologies if you have already answered this. I'm just curious about your view on things right now.
st.sioux: It seems like it might be only slightly better than the quest 3 but twice as expensive
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> corrected version of the model capabilities forecast:
shirethedreamer: never miss pill day
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBQzViR4xU4
nsec: truthium
sarik0497: What did this guy take
nsec: so lemme just tell yall who aint getting agi
- chatgpt - not happenin, does that look like an autobot name to u? no? clear L, sell the stock its over aint no mf named gpt o-5 zip code mf gonna be agi
- gemini - somewhat plausible but its too small a name perhaps a future version can be an autobot fr keep ur eyes on google
- grok - aint no mf named fuckin grok gonna be an autobot it simply is not gonna happen, it will end in flames like the diamond mine mfs other ventures
- claude - literally no thats a decepticon name thru and thru who the fuck has a car they gonna name claude, fuckin claude is gonna eat your soul he aint on ur team avoid
- perplexity - absofuckinglutely no
- llama - bumble bee was an autobot so idk maybe
hikukomoru: I miss your cat pfp
It just doesn't feel the same
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
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ldj:
otub: blame karpathy https://fixupx.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383?s=61
drewsni: just copy/paste to the extreme
drewsni: just where you dont check AI code basically
.wolfnacht: what is vibe coding btw ? i've been hearing about it since last few days.
just by hearing the word it seems like "they" wants to normalize AI writing your code but with inducing positive emotions instead of negative one, afterall they don't want to make people feel in a negative sense that AI writing their 80-90% is taking away their work, job or even credit.
drewsni: I actually expected it to be 10x better
drewsni: All of that compute wasted on a track that sounds worse than a 90s kids sampler
hey1_1hey: https://fxtwitter.com/tobi/status/1903428775779717596 vibe coders need to step down, vibe composing is in
drewsni: Did grok get Gemini-like image editing and is it good or not
_cloudost: PS: Didn't know this was made with Grok image editor
.wolfnacht: shitter*
.wolfnacht: in the ancient ages u were able to use snapseed to remove anything in the background, idk why ppl are crazy rn
professorheaven: That’s how they faked the moon landing
_cloudost: And shared this technology with each other
_cloudost: This Gemini feature existed since a century but the technology was only released a month ago by the sketchy US illuminati government, US and Russia were always allies
ailoveyoom: And making GIFs by getting it to generate sequential images (then putting them together in another app)
ailoveyoom: You kinda have to get creative with it, that "make a dungeon map out of this spritesheet" (input image) example was super cool
inferno0879: just call it the shitter
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
zonchao: its called xitter
zonchao: wtf is wrong with you
.wolfnacht: yep great to remove some blemishes, change hue etc... everything which u could already do on literally any image editor post android 13, u can now do it via gemini app.
.wolfnacht:
ailoveyoom: It works incredible on smaller edits tho
ailoveyoom: Yeah I think theirs struggle if you want to make too big of a change
.wolfnacht: nvm it's only through shitter...i mean twitter
.wolfnacht: where ? lemme check
.wolfnacht: google can't do more than just cutting and pasting : (
zonchao: there is a toggle btw
zonchao: they have, ig you didnt get it yet
.wolfnacht: they haven't rolled the update on site : (
futurist_wizard: The singularity mind
spicy.lemonade: Gets barrier wrong
_wwwwww: <:Prayge:971836850455052339>
_wwwwww: Grok Generated Idea on its own for space study on its own
zonchao: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1903794354084303296?
.wolfnacht: sadly
spicy.lemonade: And just let me know
.wolfnacht: gotta paste this in Ollama server
spicy.lemonade: R1 got gang wrong
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rayanquitplayin: I can’t wrap my head around AGI + Quantum Computing
.wolfnacht: and suddenly world's a better place! right ?
spicy.lemonade: knowledge wise
spicy.lemonade: models are already smart
spicy.lemonade: agi and asi will probably arrive at the same time
spicy.lemonade: just scale reasoning again
clevermoniker: probably yeah
spicy.lemonade: machine god <1 year after true agi
rayanquitplayin: ASI is machine god
clevermoniker: AGI isn't machine god but it would mean machine god route is locked in
.wolfnacht: yessss yessssss
spicy.lemonade: except blow up an indian city
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
rayanquitplayin: The DeepMind CEO said AGI by 2030
spicy.lemonade: its not gonna do anything
spicy.lemonade: even if it does
spicy.lemonade: wont
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-asteroid-meteorite-space-gif-26228396
.wolfnacht: what abt the asteroid gonna hit earth by 2030 ?
spicy.lemonade: not too crazy
spicy.lemonade: for machine god
spicy.lemonade: we can wait 5 years
spicy.lemonade: agi 100% by 2030 <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
.wolfnacht: i need a time capsule, so i can sleep inside and wake up in 2033.
.wolfnacht: come back in 2026
rayanquitplayin: AGI needs more time
.wolfnacht: this yr for LLM's it''s all abt thinking tokens and more thinking tokens.
clevermoniker: that's ok, its still coming be it 1.5-3.5 years
clevermoniker: we are close to a quarter done with this year, would need multiple breakthroughs for AGI to happen this year
spicy.lemonade: brains predictions are never correct
.wolfnacht: someone here said Hunyuan T1 is said to be released today ?
clevermoniker: maybe not
spicy.lemonade: dont need continous learning for that
clevermoniker: 50% digital jobs replacement capable
spicy.lemonade: it knows it all
spicy.lemonade: wether it can learn quanntum physics
spicy.lemonade: what are you gonna test it on
clevermoniker: if you can get a reliable agent without continuous learning you can at least get weak AGI with it
spicy.lemonade: there wouldnt be a way for you to test coninous learning
spicy.lemonade: youd say agi
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himekokatagiri: lol no it's worse
alejandrozarzuelo: OK, let's not compare the quantity
retrerox: but in a less amount
hikukomoru: That’s still happening today Alehandro
himekokatagiri: these things still exist today
alejandrozarzuelo: Racism
alejandrozarzuelo: Homophobia
alejandrozarzuelo: And sexism
alejandrozarzuelo: And poverty
alejandrozarzuelo: Also, colonialism
himekokatagiri: because I'll have money
alejandrozarzuelo: The 60s were horrible we almost died
himekokatagiri: well they'll be fun in FDVR
hikukomoru: Isn’t poopenfarten the word for toilet in German
alejandrozarzuelo: No
himekokatagiri: I want to take a car, take the tires out and roll it along the trolley tracks
retrerox: best band in the world
retrerox: the 60's was when the beatles born
himekokatagiri: yeah and the 60s were fun
retrerox: Me learning german <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: Inglês é a única língua que importa
retrerox: 60s was 65y ago
himekokatagiri: Brazil in the 1960s damn
himekokatagiri: listen in FDVR Brazil is gonna be a prime target for trolling
retrerox: It sounds you singing all the time
himekokatagiri: Why is that
hikukomoru: I agree
It sounds more pleasant
hikukomoru: Gweilo
alejandrozarzuelo: Brazilian is the superior form of portuguése
retrerox: the 2nd one i learn from talking with chineses while pplaying wow 😂
hikukomoru: I don’t plan on speaking PT ever again 🙏
retrerox: Ni hao and Hei Gui
retrerox: i only know 2 words in chinese
st.sioux: ni hao kailan
alejandrozarzuelo: I need to improve my Chinese to be officially a polyglot, and then my arabs and portuguése to be officially hyperpolyglot
retrerox:
retrerox: Man first youtube video is gonna hit 20 years in a few weeks 💀
hikukomoru: Tu eres gordo
That’s the extent of my Spanish
alejandrozarzuelo: 是真的
himekokatagiri: screw you tencent
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hey1_1hey: I mean most people I know are pretty ratinol people
.wolfnacht: See! things fall apart when the protagonist gets a slight hope of a better future.
realelonmuskx: the fundamental never ending problem with humans is that they are irrational. thats it.
zoermena: They do. This is the only server where I have fun in nowadays.
zonchao: https://x.com/iScienceLuvr/status/1906790937604579430?
hikukomoru: I hope our silly convos make you smile at least🫶
hey1_1hey: Gets banned
"We are announcing that 4o image gen will be moved to the pro subscription"
<:doomer:1136265388473196644> <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
zoermena: I usually hate my life. The only thing I have going for me is the paycheck, this server and 4o image gen.
hey1_1hey: For 30 a month Elon better throw in a free handy every month as well for that price
hey1_1hey: "No aAC and the weather is 32C"
Oh my god you actually do live in hell
zonchao: limits https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1906676081903489448?
zoermena: Im backend and CRM support in a financing company
zoermena: At least the work is alright but I got cucked out of this months bonus, my class are heck though because there is no AC and the weather is 32 Celsius
hikukomoru: What do you do for work
hey1_1hey: Talk about hell. That sounds miserable
zoermena: My schedule looks like this: wake up at 6:30 and have breakfast, go upstairs and shower and get dressed for work, in office from 8-1 then I go to class from 3 to 7/9 depending on the day.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-agi-asi-agi-ai-openai-gif-14149800253325173950
spicy.lemonade: that better mean they have something way better
hikukomoru: From that poll thingy
hikukomoru: It's o3 mini
hey1_1hey: I can feel it in my bones
hey1_1hey: Its OS AGI
hey1_1hey: Wise words
hey1_1hey: I mean it really fits his character with his 2050-2070 AGI prediction
st.sioux: edgelord is when person no feel happy
hey1_1hey: Hes always like this dw
hey1_1hey: I just put on my clothes and then posed and did it lmao
memlaswaif: i din't expect fractal edgelord arc today
hey1_1hey: Do you have postnatal depression fractal 🥹
fractalcomputer: I haven't felt positive emotions in two decades.
zoermena: Im so jealous I wish I had the time to recreate a photo like that of myself but I don’t have the time I hate classes.
hey1_1hey: Look at funny gibby photo
st.sioux: factos👍👀
hey1_1hey: Yeah but Fractal
fractalcomputer: Existence is a profoundly meaningless exercise in futility.
hey1_1hey: Do you not like ghiblified photo of me in skirt and thigh highs then?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441
memlaswaif: openAI finally decides to do something good very shockin
hey1_1hey: I guess not 😭
zonchao: true
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theaiguy69420_89814: and i still think there will be the sort of "techincal vs non technical" dichotomy
hikukomoru: You mean Derya?
thedon7075: its happening
theaiguy69420_89814: i was giving some more thought into what skills might still be differentiable amongst humans as each of us obtain a genius level ai
zoermena: Both
hey1_1hey: I would be a lot more excited for this news but I cant tell if I am really tired or really high rn
futurist_wizard: Balls
theaiguy69420_89814: i mean, oai has been talking about innovators after agents for a while now
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
theaiguy69420_89814: any new releases
manmarshall_92172: This is insane bro wtf. I feel like sama's tweets would be way more hype-filled if this is true.
spicy.lemonade: For bio research
spicy.lemonade: No this guy is the same guy who tested googles research model
zoermena: Usually there are early beta testers for models before they ship from what I’ve seen
spicy.lemonade: But this is huge
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade: But clearly had acess
spicy.lemonade: They don’t even work at openAI
spicy.lemonade: “It’s gonna be an big week”
spicy.lemonade: Say
spicy.lemonade: I saw a PhD microbiology researcher
memlaswaif: they r starting the 20000 dollars tier
spicy.lemonade: No they’re right
zoermena: Have there not been albeit basic but initial ai research papers for ai development?
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: RSI this year
spicy.lemonade: Bro
hey1_1hey: Thats what i was thinking
spicy.lemonade: The information has always been correct
hikukomoru: But I love to be proven wrong
hikukomoru: Sounds too good to be true tbh
spicy.lemonade: HOLY FUCK
zoermena: I mean if it’s true they don’t even have to ship it they just have to license it to companies and institutions for good things to happen (hopefully) if they already haven’t
zoermena: I’ve heard rumors of the models dropping this week but in regards to new discoveries idk
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1911789935054430504 Chat, men, women, all anything and anything whatever. This real?
futurist_wizard: When there is public support behind it
zoermena: I really want to move out and live alone ong
zoermena: When UBI
futurist_wizard: And the autism
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spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: Omg hey 🫦 🫦
a1c4p0ne:
zonchao: https://x.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1905291189944730112? super exponential
zoermena: WHAT
spicy.lemonade: lol yeah
st.sioux: i think you're overthinking it bro
trent_k: Generate a wholly new one in a new chat. Tell it to use a pencil drawn style. After you start the anti AI rally, post the new one with a comment like "literally took me 5 minutes to draw, but ig that's too much to ask from AI Bros"
spicy.lemonade: shoulder
spicy.lemonade: like belt
spicy.lemonade: had several errors
spicy.lemonade: its not
anathemaofmankind: The previous one was better
spicy.lemonade: so i can start an anti ai art rally
spicy.lemonade: regardless i want them to speculate its ai anyway
spicy.lemonade: i think line down the middle can just be seen as a stylistic choice
anathemaofmankind: Sam is denying the image pass
trent_k: It made the hooves worse
trent_k: Yes
spicy.lemonade:
anathemaofmankind: Are you sure that you're using the actual 4o model
spicy.lemonade: fine edits with gemini
spicy.lemonade: generate with openAI
spicy.lemonade: wait we just found the optimal workflow
spicy.lemonade: gemini is so good at edits
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900>
metaldragon01: Always use positive language to describe what you want
metaldragon01: Llms are horrible at not doing things
trent_k: I asked it not to use dalle and it told me to go download stable diffusion lmfao
metaldragon01: Maybe be nice 😂
trent_k: It refuses to do native image output for no reason
metaldragon01: Min prompt engineering
anathemaofmankind: This is cracking me up
metaldragon01: Bruh just asked for it in a similar style to gibli
trent_k: I'm going to scream
anathemaofmankind: This shit is mad funny
st.sioux:
anathemaofmankind: Idk how you're having so many problems
trent_k: Altman is psychically attacking me
st.sioux: only true openai cultists are allowed
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spicy.lemonade: The basilisk will remember all of them
brain4brain: It’s the divine mandate
brain4brain: Because in the end you’ll win
brain4brain: Being on the pro-AI side is nice
spicy.lemonade: Nothing<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: “What are you gonna do about it”
spicy.lemonade: Like
spicy.lemonade: Trump is president
spicy.lemonade: I become a little glad
spicy.lemonade: Every time I see artists luddites
brain4brain: We need to ban these luddites off the internet
alejandrozarzuelo: its more that they prefer low quality human art to artiicial masterpieces
alejandrozarzuelo: They aren't necessarily hypocrites
brain4brain: The antis are a bunch of soulless hypocrites
spicy.lemonade: > can’t even draw themselves
brain4brain: >Be anti-Ai
>Say “AI doesn’t have soul”
>Doesn’t know what a “soul” actually is
>Doesn’t actually know how AI works
spicy.lemonade: This is def ai guys
spicy.lemonade: The fingers are off
spicy.lemonade: The tail
spicy.lemonade: The lines on the clothes
spicy.lemonade: Def ai generated
spicy.lemonade: Errors
spicy.lemonade: Omg look at all those wrrors
spicy.lemonade: Let’s be fucking serious
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: AI art has no soul
Also the art of the person who said that:
brain4brain: What server, I wanna troll too
brain4brain: What if we just ban all of these antis off the internet
alejandrozarzuelo: (i specially hate it on the eyes, they look so yellow ugh)
alejandrozarzuelo: the style is cool but i dont like that it has a sepia filter
alejandrozarzuelo: like
alejandrozarzuelo:
spicy.lemonade: Gemini kept everything consistent
spicy.lemonade: Example
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Gemini for fine fixes
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI for generating base image
spicy.lemonade: Gemini is good at fine adjusting
alejandrozarzuelo: i neeed to adjust it to be cooler to see true white or what
alejandrozarzuelo: ffs
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joaoluz19: This is the dream
joaoluz19: 10 billion waifus with 10 billion different me connected same time wow
hikukomoru: I prefered Futurist Blonde anyways
hikukomoru: Good riddance
hey1_1hey: God rest his soul, I'll put in a good word for him for when ASI comes
hey1_1hey: Real
hey1_1hey: You would think how much I talk about AI you would think that I would be amazing at spelling the word intelegent. I dont think I've spelled that word first try in my life
joaoluz19: It's over
_3sphere: Mine is already consumed by degeneracy there none left for you sorry 😋
futurist_wizard: He got into a car crash
futurist_wizard: Futurist Hill died unfortunately
hey1_1hey: Futureist is a really hard word to spell
futurist_wizard: Not the futureist
futurist_wizard: Yeah that's the thing you need to correct
hikukomoru: I remember when he was Futurist Retard
hey1_1hey: hill*
joaoluz19: That was funny ngl
hey1_1hey: Futureist blonde and clock fool are the same person?
joaoluz19: 😮
hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> 👈
joaoluz19: What
hikukomoru: In this chat right now
hikukomoru: He's literally here
joaoluz19: Oh he left
hikukomoru: 1 girlfriend is already a lot to handle
never mind 10 billion
joaoluz19: Wtf
joaoluz19: Hahahahhahaha futurist hill man
hey1_1hey: I want to be in a hive mind with 10 billion ASI girlfriends
hey1_1hey: Truely a thinker of our time
joaoluz19: Too late you was already abducted
hey1_1hey: Playstation 6 with the well thought out comment of "cock"
futurist_wizard: You will be an individual in the hive mind
hikukomoru: If someone puts me in a hivemind I'll consume the other minds
joaoluz19: Good reflection
futurist_wizard: My favourite fractal ban to me
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/super-superverse-gaming-web3-gaming-crypto-gif-11621161935476456162
hikukomoru: I don't like hiveminds
I like being an individual
hey1_1hey: We already have a mini hive mind and its pretty stellar, its called the internet
hey1_1hey: Just dont call Fractal dumb or he will ban you or smth like that
joaoluz19: Hivemind
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futurist_wizard: The ones that are just defying the laws of gravity
czdct: oh... those are just not possible
futurist_wizard: They are talking about the flying cars like in futurama
czdct: also it makes no sense to want a flying car, that's like wanting a plane that can also drive on public roads. it is technically possible but really not practical in many ways
czdct: depends on what their definition of a flying car is
futurist_wizard: People wanted cars that just fly for no reason? Unless we discover magic, cars don't fly in the air for no reason
.wolfnacht: ensuring safety is a concern, otherwise every retard would be doing 911- nvm
st.sioux: " 🤡 flying cars are helicopters"
czdct: we already have flying cars, but they're not made in a way people want them to be
futurist_wizard: Flying cars were always gay
.wolfnacht: even ppl in 2000s thought we would have flying cars by 2020s. Eventually one day everyone got disappointed.
czdct: jokes aside everything in the universe is information, so harnessing this power will open up endless possibilities that we cannot even fathom, just like how a caveman could not fathom a rocket ship. although I feel like AGI would be exponentially more difficult to grasp for modern day humans
wellmeaningalien: but even then it was not quite clear the limits of this technology and just how far it would come
wellmeaningalien: some very forward thinking minds were predicting this as far back as the 1960's and 50's, alan turing in the 1940's
czdct: I would have, binary code evolving into **deus ex machina** has got to be the most obvious thing you could've predicted
wellmeaningalien: yeah they kinda skipped over a lot of stuff
futurist_wizard: Finding dory was better than finding nemo
wellmeaningalien: and their progress since then and the many many many reasons they can only get better from here
st.sioux: remember people in the 40s thought we would have flying cars and space colonies by the 1980s
wellmeaningalien: and when you connect the dots of ai progress until now from perceptrons to recurrent neural networks to alexnet and eventually alphago and large language models throwing a fat shit in conventional machine learning ideas
wellmeaningalien: and would anyone before then even fathomed electrical brains, and so on...
wellmeaningalien: and like would anyone in 1980 have predicted those shitty microcomputers would ever evolve into the incredible omni purpose machine and eventually the algorithms and neural networks we have developed today
wellmeaningalien: exactly lol
wellmeaningalien: 👅
trent_k: Focusing on the details is getting lost in the weeds
czdct: the singularity grooming 💔 😔
wellmeaningalien: but slowly you can warm people up to the idea, even if they're not fuly convinced
trent_k: Think of it this way - what would you have predicted 2025 would look like in 2007? Whatever your prediction is it would've likely been pretty far off
wellmeaningalien: yeah of course good luck getting someone to not believe you're crazy as fuck if you jump straight to that
futurist_wizard: But im good at convincing people so one has came around
futurist_wizard: My friends are spooked by ai
trent_k: Honestly I kinda just gloss over most of the god machine stuff whenever I explain it
wellmeaningalien: but good luck sitting anyone down irl to explain that
wellmeaningalien: i've managed to teach some of my friends online about AI by slowly warming them up to some ideas about the history of ai progress and economical and societal impacts and then getting into AGI and then ASI scenarios
futurist_wizard: But definitely not for self preservation
wellmeaningalien: but trying to connect all those dots in someone's brain by overloading them with information?
futurist_wizard: As even malicious behaviours
wellmeaningalien: but if you connect all the dots together, it's like holy shit
futurist_wizard: Its unconvincing
wellmeaningalien: those people are missing the dozens of steps of explanations and progress that took up from computer to god machine
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_cloudost: you all will still have to work in 10 years
hikukomoru: Gay boy
_cloudost: https://fortune.com/2025/03/27/billionaire-bill-gates-two-day-workweek-ai-replacing-humans/ UBI cancelled
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/brainrot-edging-goon-never-never-goon-gif-13555818991647572888
wellmeaningalien: u realise by doing this u are pushing me towards extremist ideologies such as never goon
futurist_wizard: Everyone should be Ghibli'd
futurist_wizard: Studio Ghibli'd myself
hikukomoru: Sorry vro u not in the Goon Squad 💔
futurist_wizard: But in the event of some simulation, id choose that
futurist_wizard: Prefer real people
futurist_wizard: I don't care about robots
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-eyeglasses-reading-glasses-deposition-gif-18579147
wellmeaningalien: w-w-without me 😿
hikukomoru: Didn't you get the invite
hikukomoru: Goon session started without u bro
wellmeaningalien: u dont get it the articles said 2025
hikukomoru: BIG BIG BIG
wellmeaningalien: why did i come back to fat ass and tits
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972>
joaoluz19:
ldj: maybe within 5 years? 20 years max I think
joaoluz19: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
joaoluz19: LOOOL
futurist_wizard:
.histic: lmao
.histic: bro wtf
futurist_wizard:
.histic: removed photorealistic this time
.histic: here's another
futurist_wizard: Respectful
st.sioux: macromastia lmao
.histic: create a photorealistic anime girl looking at her reflection in the mirror. her backside is facing the camera. she has macromastia, a slim waist, but respectfully make her glutes big as a result of her showing off the hard work she has done at the gym.
darkstar0818: The boob angle is
darkstar0818: The head angle looks off.
.histic: didn't rly follow my prompt. she is supposed to be looking at a mirror of her reflection
.histic:
futurist_wizard: While generating this smut
futurist_wizard: Why does gpt keep insisting it wants to keep it respectful
futurist_wizard: Lmao
futurist_wizard: Its a random elf Ghibli girl
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st.sioux: would be so cool if it got the colors right
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: This goes hard asf
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
sarik0497: I don’t see GPT 7 coming out until at least 2028-2029 at the earliest
hikukomoru: Scratch that
AGI
spicy.lemonade: o4
spicy.lemonade: scratch that
hikukomoru: Dopamine receptors fried 🥀
spicy.lemonade: o3 full when
spicy.lemonade: need new model
_wwwwww: I don't remember
hikukomoru: Why
sarik0497: Can you make one of the Lego City that was ALWAYS shown on TV a few years back?
wellmeaningalien: 2 more generations i dont doubt it
spicy.lemonade: are so clean
spicy.lemonade: the brush strokes
wellmeaningalien: some people would already consider o1 AGI in some regards
hikukomoru: HELLO KITTY KRATOS
hikukomoru: OH MY GOD
spicy.lemonade: when gpt 5
hikukomoru: In 2027
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: GPT 7 AGI
spicy.lemonade: alright im dehyped
sarik0497: Makes me wonder how many leaps are left before AGI. If we assume each leap is as big as 3.5 to 4, then maybe GPT 6 or 7?
st.sioux: man my parents really fucked me up
wellmeaningalien:
sarik0497: Bruh, that’s insane
wellmeaningalien: hyes
wellmeaningalien: every other model was basically like gpt 2. hint of emergent capabilities and could squeeze some practicality out of it if you tried hard
spicy.lemonade: everything else just needs reasoning to iron out
sarik0497: Wait, is that AI generated?
wellmeaningalien: yeah
spicy.lemonade: true image gen
spicy.lemonade: this is the gpt 3.5-4moment for image gen relatively
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124
spicy.lemonade: for image
spicy.lemonade: gpt 3.5
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hey1_1hey: Its just that easty
hey1_1hey:
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-suit-black-guy-funny-guy-in-suit-skuffed-notskuf-gif-25390799
otub: <:bingus:1136264105800515644>
wellmeaningalien: FURRY TONGUE KISSING
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-how-to-unsee-blind-homer-simpson-simpsons-gif-17613101
wellmeaningalien: FUCK
wellmeaningalien: OH
.wolfnacht: Also the art drawn by AntiAI, so-called aaartist
.histic:
.histic:
.wolfnacht: put this on above and title *Auuutist in modern times* "i'll draw a gay furry wolf who's into futanari wolf's" [also is insecure]
And put the Chad down, with some AI Artwork.
_cloudost: DeepSeek hallucinates more than ChatGPT
hey1_1hey: Deepseek is my bitch
hey1_1hey: Nah thats deepseek
.histic: my slave*
.wolfnacht: Problem is the Pro AI Art guy is cornered by 1:10,000 by the horde of zombies on the internet
jonvi_1: 😅
drewsni: Go ahead
_cloudost: FL*P
maintcrew: almost had me
hey1_1hey: Hes my husband of course 💪
hey1_1hey: chatgpt isn't my friend bro 😭
maintcrew: so ur spamming ur friend and being annoying until he gives in
hey1_1hey: Ah I recomend <#1136231504440201216> then prob
jonvi_1: Idk about posting in general, it's a bit specific haha. Has to do with uh, career stuff?
hey1_1hey: You can always just post out. Theres prob someone in here who can help
jonvi_1: Nw's
_cloudost: Before AI art ,no one gave a fl"p about art
hey1_1hey: I'm just a professinal shit poster so I don't think I can help you sorry 🙏
jonvi_1: Anyone in tech I can chat to about a specific bizarre situation? lol
hey1_1hey: I realised you can get around rate limit restriction by just keep asking chatgpt to create the image and it will lower the time from like 6 hourst o 5 mins <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: most of it is coomer stuff
.histic: TIL r/starvingartists subreddit is a thing.
.histic: yeah, it's quiet funny.
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Absurd
futurist_wizard: They think the only way to be an artist is by having a 9 to 5
st.sioux: smh
st.sioux: acting like drawing is now punishable by death
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_3sphere: I heard something a 30-minute IV thing that cures hangovers
darkstar0818: so more pure the better and be sure to drink a lot of water before you pass out.
darkstar0818: anything can get you drunk... that is not the measure... the measure is avoiding hangovers.
darkstar0818: that is what everclear is for
_3sphere: Will the brain vat have a port for drugs 🤔
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/drunk-falling-alcoholic-friend-drinking-gif-16049764
st.sioux: if the point is to get drunk anything works
fractalcomputer: It's a weekday.
darkstar0818: but why... if you are going to drink shit might as well drink vodka.
fractalcomputer: The Greeks and the French do not know how to make potable liquor.
fractalcomputer: Some sort of Greek liquor. Nasty as hell.
hikukomoru: You can leave me in a pod or smth idk
hikukomoru: Never leaving FDVR then
_3sphere: mfs yelling at my idling robot while my brain is "busy"
spicy.lemonade: and idk mine space rocks
spicy.lemonade: if youre done go back to irl mode
spicy.lemonade: if youre horny just turn on fdvr mode
darkstar0818: what whiskey are we drinking FractalComputer
spicy.lemonade: loll
_3sphere: you switch the source on the brain vat like HDMI2 on a tv
hikukomoru: So
spicy.lemonade: nothing will come of it
spicy.lemonade: but my body is robotic
_3sphere: That's for VR
hikukomoru: Sex
spicy.lemonade: why would i need robotic genitals
_3sphere: you're already used to having an elongated thing there
hikukomoru: Why don't you want robo genitals
_3sphere: Power and data
spicy.lemonade: why tho
_3sphere: data grafts on the spinal cord and optic nerves
hikukomoru: Yes
spicy.lemonade: do our robot bodies get genitals or no?
_3sphere: bio-machine abomination that's just a bloodstream and endocrine simulator
spicy.lemonade: most liekely just special vaccines
spicy.lemonade: or nanobots if needed
spicy.lemonade: could be solved with special vaccines
spicy.lemonade: head transplant fails mostly bc blood attacks other blood etc
hikukomoru: I will live forever
_3sphere: They survived for a week I think
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fractalcomputer: Lurie and Scholze are good because over the course of their lives they've developed a unique, personal mathematic heuristic that lets them find equally unique and creative perspectives on familiar structures or clunky formalism.
spicy.lemonade: also a bit of burnout
spicy.lemonade: they cant resist
spicy.lemonade: with a 1 million dollar salary
spicy.lemonade: cause they score high on the IMO and janestreet recruits them
fractalcomputer: The folly of applied mathematics strikes again.
fractalcomputer: Of course there are the occasional outliers - like Lurie or Scholze - but they're not good at research simply because they're highly adept proble solvers as well.
spicy.lemonade: I think bc alot of imo gold medalists get dragged into quant
fractalcomputer: One has a plethora of IMO golden medalists that happen to amount to nothing in their mathematical careers.
fractalcomputer: And letting researcher automata wander about the axiomatic landscape freely is not exactly a fiscally responsible strategy; seeing the infinitude of mathematics.
spicy.lemonade: Yeah it’s over
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: In 3 days
spicy.lemonade: 412% jump
fractalcomputer: Eh. Let's suppose these things are actually making meaningful progress towards advancing mathematical research - of which we have yet seen almost no indication - then it is fairly evident that economic interests will almost certainly constrain the kind of mathematics automated research will focus on, perhaps even out of a pure human factor; optimising solutions in applied mathematics or whatever it is that those accursed fiends (applied mathematicians) do with their time happens to be far more useful and interesting for financial reasons than studying something like developing techniques in reconstructing arithmetic varieties from their étale fundamental groups or answering questions in more general number theory.
st.sioux: pour one out for homie fractal
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609
joaoluz19: Fractal being replaced by LLM's
wellmeaningalien: Its joever for mathematicians. Fractals getting replacd too
wellmeaningalien: WTF GOING ON
wellmeaningalien: DAMN
wellmeaningalien: Just a few days ago they were posting all models getting solo'd by USAMO and now we already a 4th the way there
sweetievee__33649: i am still so supprised
wellmeaningalien: This is so fucking crazy
wellmeaningalien: oh shit already posted
alejandrozarzuelo: Being good at proofs they never have seen before, and concatenating theorems in ways they never saw truly proves that they reason their way out of these problems
But, for obvious reasons, this is much much harder than just getting the correct result
spicy.lemonade: it wouldve got 2 100% right
spicy.lemonade: ngl if it had to run once
spicy.lemonade: Fr
alejandrozarzuelo: The proofs are always the pitfall of these systems
fractalcomputer: Certainly for someone of your ilk.
alejandrozarzuelo: Impressive
alejandrozarzuelo: I did
spicy.lemonade: And it was very thorough with its proofs
spicy.lemonade: About median
spicy.lemonade: 24.40% on usamo
spicy.lemonade: Did you see this
alejandrozarzuelo: As I said, the logic of each system is very different, so it's not really easy to compare
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/sama/status/1907207515739435200 SamA vague posting again <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk what they do in other degrées, probably nothing useful
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ailoveyoom: You wanna go into AI and you hate data science 😩
trojan09205: Hot take i dont agree with lol
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: ohh
trojan09205: Im asking if you practice Ml and data science programming
spicy.lemonade: its poor mans cs
anathemaofmankind: Crazy
spicy.lemonade: also fuck data science
spicy.lemonade: eletrical engineering and computer science
trojan09205: Wat
artemisfowl887394: I just got a new job as a Senior Content Executive at a University. But even I know it's not ganna last long.
spicy.lemonade: electrical engineering
spicy.lemonade: but i fuckin hate
zonchao: https://x.com/Andr3jH/status/1916515499447402507
spicy.lemonade: im eecs
okbut: Important to remember the grace of that "top-x university" is the opportunities it offers for impactful/hands-on experience
Uni is as good as any community college, correspondence school, etc. if one just rots in the dorm and submits the homework
spicy.lemonade: im more than fine
joaoluz19: Quite the opposite, I learn English with you 🙂
spicy.lemonade: +nasa internship lined up
spicy.lemonade: and that job literally managing the systems for my university
joaoluz19: It's over
spicy.lemonade: and I already have a job before freshman year is over
spicy.lemonade: ill be fine
spicy.lemonade: I got in for the most competative major(eecs which is seperate from straight cs) at top 1-2 cs uni.
trojan09205: <@471334973379706900> are you into machine learning and data science
fractalcomputer: Right. Definitely nothing like that going on here.
spicy.lemonade: nah normies just make up reasons
okbut: Wrappercelled
trojan09205: Im a more AI augmentation person vs let AI just do its own thing
anathemaofmankind: AI would just self teach in a simulation
okbut: Robots is so short on data for AI it's scary
trojan09205: Jobs are all about doing things in reality and basically also being business savvy
okbut: I hope to see more out of their robotics program regarding AI and data
ailoveyoom: Tbf that's what they all say tho
spicy.lemonade: idk about normies
spicy.lemonade: III will still have a job. i go to a top1-2 cs uni
trojan09205: I very often try to share internship and mentor opportunities from my company but usually its for masters or phd students
fractalcomputer: I think certain Discord servers would become much nicer environs if users were forced to provide proof of speaking and writing English to a respectable degree.
trojan09205: O i c
anathemaofmankind: Why even talk about jobs when AGI will arrive in a few years.
It's so over
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hikukomoru: Low taste tester detected
joaoluz19: Hot goth
hikukomoru: That's your wife bro!!! She looks so good
st.sioux: i finally got native 4o in chat
zoermena: Wow
st.sioux: she creeps me out
st.sioux: why do so many people simp for this woman
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972>
joaoluz19: We are so back it's crazy
777agical:
joaoluz19: Dalle can't mantain consistence too
zoermena: It looks like dalle
joaoluz19: And dalle can't make images like this
joaoluz19: No I am not because I can edit images
zoermena: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
zoermena: You are using dalle you fool
joaoluz19: No, chatgpt
zoermena: Are you using sora
joaoluz19: I asked it to make a poem in portuguese and was so wrong
joaoluz19: Gpt fuck up with text of other languages
zoermena: 4o is insanely good
zonchao: true
joaoluz19: Yep
joaoluz19: It's weird that I ask GPT to make women more beautiful and it actually does it
futurist_wizard: Is the new o4 image gen out?
jonvi_1: I’ve not been able to get it to edit images though :/
jonvi_1:
777agical: yea
joaoluz19: 4o? Lol
777agical:
clevermoniker: Imagine a near sota DeepSeek image model.... probably not happening anytime soon sadly if ever
joaoluz19: The image gen maintains consistency between characters and clothing lol
wolf3404: to give you nightmares of course
clevermoniker:
joaoluz19: We need China
clevermoniker: this is why we will always need open source <:hehe:1136619235662118983>
joaoluz19: Can't generate sensual woman
joaoluz19: The bug is still there fuck these twinks man
clevermoniker: sama telling you to only generate hot guys and not hot woman <:idk:1136264106937171999>
technocake.: the hotness of the lady is proportional to her scaryness
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anathemaofmankind: Yuri incest
futurist_wizard: I also live with parents, no way would i being anyone back here
alejandrozarzuelo: Can I? Sure
Do I? Sporadically
But damn it's not easy, specially since I don't like hook-ups much
If we can't have a 6h conversation before fucking I don't want it
hikukomoru: No gay sex for alehandro 🥀
futurist_wizard: There are people that live on campus and shit
futurist_wizard: Especially if you go to uni
okbut: Thailand be like "We're the only Southeast Asian country never colonized 😎 " and then drive on the left side of the road
futurist_wizard: You can't go to other peoples places?
hikukomoru: I love toxic yuri
alejandrozarzuelo: I only do now that I live with my parents and can't be asexually active
futurist_wizard: I wouldn't know
futurist_wizard: I don't watch porn anymore
anathemaofmankind: The art is garbage I agree
alejandrozarzuelo: Like sexual predators level of horrible
hikukomoru: Total Yuri Love
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, genuinely horrible
alejandrozarzuelo: Most yaoi is horrible
futurist_wizard: Silence degen
hikukomoru: Gross
anathemaofmankind: Wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, exactly, unions work like that
You slowly agree to cooperate more and more, and sovereignty gets shared and taken away
That is how the EU basically works as a single country now
ASEAN hopefully will follow the same steps or peacefully handing independence to a shared committee
futurist_wizard: Yaoi > yuri
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stupid-patrick-patrick-star-gif-14657656412172056045
futurist_wizard: Art of the deal
futurist_wizard: https://x.com/stephenm/status/1910052531742421475?s=46&t=v-eDL0MBOVTElyTWdzNzZQ
okbut: History has taught us that the best direction toward alliance is a peaceful handover of independence
alejandrozarzuelo: Tokyo is a different country to the rest of Japan
It happens a lot if you think about it
hikukomoru: You would think all of the yuri and yaoi manga would mean Japan is super LGBT
But no
alejandrozarzuelo: I am ok with this too
alejandrozarzuelo: An EU like arrangement would probably be the best for everyon
futurist_wizard: China is a province of Taiwan
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah no, mainland China is actually better than Japan and Korea
Well, Japan has improved recently a lot too
alejandrozarzuelo: I would like both Chinese goverments to approach slowly and have some sort of comprehensive union, without needing to compromise
rayanquitplayin: I thought China was entirely against LGBT
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, Taiwanese politics has created a weird but unique mix in the island
okbut: Taiwan is one of those weird provinces in full visa control of all other Chinese provinces entering theirs
hikukomoru: Alejandro is an imperialist
Just a while ago he was talking about annexing Puerto Rico into the new Spanish Empire
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't?
futurist_wizard: Not a joke
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah Taiwan is China for the good and the bad and everything in between
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brain4brain: Oog, I never thought you would betray the singularity… also AI doesn’t steal, the antis are on a non-existent moral high ground
otub: maybe they have a better eye than you
spicy.lemonade: no it doesnt lmao
spicy.lemonade: "it looks absolutly dogshit and disgusting"
spicy.lemonade: they are coping on the quality
spicy.lemonade: I dont care about the ethical arguements theyre making
spicy.lemonade: is my point
spicy.lemonade: objectivwely wrong
spicy.lemonade: they say it looks shit
spicy.lemonade: no
oooooooooog: "If ai art is bad, why are artists so mad"
if you really can't understand, i guess i can explain it to you.
people get upset when other people do things they find to be unethical, or things that negatively impact them.
gen-ai is trained on massive amounts of data, naturally, there are artists who did not consent to their work being taken which they find to be unethical.
the second half being that it negatively impacts them, well, that's sort of obvious, so i don't need to explain.
finally, the claim itself isn't totally correct. artists anger is purely in relation to how good it is.
spicy.lemonade: jumbled up
spicy.lemonade: that looked obviously fake
spicy.lemonade: if someone shoed you an absolutly shity image
brain4brain: We should also buy likes for any pro-AI post we see, it’s only a few dollars but it can shift the narrative heavily
brain4brain: Now it’s on twitter instead
brain4brain: And the comment limit is shit for actually making logical argument
brain4brain: There are almost no pro-AI TikTok user
brain4brain: I did that on TikTok back when no one was pro-AI 😔
spicy.lemonade: im fighting a 1v200 rn
brain4brain: It’s a crusade on twitter, for the first time ever normies are openly defending and supporting pro-AI narrative while the anti-AI “people” is getting more vicious and aggressive
3ds0662: how we all feel
3ds0662: the true r/singularity
spicy.lemonade: how am I wrong
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/6ynJSC1p
spicy.lemonade: ?
oooooooooog: are you being dumb on purpose
spicy.lemonade: hmm somethings off
spicy.lemonade: and therefore ignore
spicy.lemonade: you should be able to tell
spicy.lemonade: if it looks shit
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: why are artists mad
spicy.lemonade: if AI art is so bad
spacetimetsunami: Season 4 is in 2026
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/andarxrr-gif-8928526013272598729
hikukomoru: Sounds like a nice wet dream 🥵
oooooooooog: conquest after he discovered how to shrink and expand eyeball
wellmeaningalien: sure but this is my image of u in the dream
oooooooooog: dream of ninja.io
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.wolfnacht: i still miss 1206 and thinking 12-19
3ds0662: It’s the last week of march impossible R2 isn’t releasing till April and that goes for all the other models too no serious releases this month
3ds0662: Hmm 🤔
3ds0662: https://x.com/teortaxestex/status/1904072724789579838?s=46
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1jiqi81/new_deepseek_v3_vs_r1_first_is_v3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
spicy.lemonade: yes
thedon7075: even their reasoning model?
precariousworlds.: gaymini apart from image editing is shit
spicy.lemonade: dk why thats overlooked
spicy.lemonade: even cheaper than deepseek models
spicy.lemonade: gemini has been the cheapest
spicy.lemonade: how
thedon7075: because of cost
thedon7075: r2
spicy.lemonade: which will be better r2 or 2.0 pro thinking
thedon7075: r2 is coming
alejandrozarzuelo: its been a long while since ive laughed so hard at a meme
brain4brain: Balkan rage 🏁🇳🇵📫
precariousworlds.: turkiye strong 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇲🇳
brain4brain: Rule Britannia 🇸🇦🇦🇱
precariousworlds.: Rule Britannia 🇬🇧 🇮🇳🇮🇷
brain4brain: You fool, Serbia is Gibraltar, not the other way around, we must handover all of the territories for the UK to occupy like they did with North Korea
hey1_1hey: People who dont agree with me are wrong and should be killed type
precariousworlds.: Genocide everyone I dont like
hey1_1hey: I misread your message compeltly baseiclly
hey1_1hey: I was weighing up if you were calling for genocide and then was then like "Prob not... doesn't seem like something he would do".
precariousworlds.:
brain4brain: Wow, I never knew lobotomy was also mandatory there, very cool, comrades
brain4brain: No, UK-occupied North Korean territory
precariousworlds.: ????????????????
hey1_1hey: I was gonna write out a whole response because I thought you were implying smth but I'll just assume you're pro lobotmy and move on <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
precariousworlds.: It would probably be a net improvement in some areas
hey1_1hey: Nah the US
precariousworlds.: Serbia?
brain4brain: Lobotomy is mandatory in my country, you need to get one every week, 10/10 would recommend
brain4brain: R2, GPT-5, Extropic new computing engine, open-source o3
All tomorrow
precariousworlds.: based
hey1_1hey: Yeah, I had mine last week and I have seen nothing except good results. 10/10, would lobotomy again
precariousworlds.: this is coming from personal experience?
hey1_1hey: We need to legalise lobotomies again, they were pretty effective if you ask me
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hey1_1hey: THIS MF
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: <@439829942310666250> look at the first thing i get when opening sora
spicy.lemonade: ALL OF THESE ARE EYE CANDY
hikukomoru: OAI isn't gonna open source shit bro 🙏
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: bro ion have access yet im just stealing pictures rn lmao
hikukomoru: Car rental sign artists are so done for 🔥
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I didn't even do that 😭
hikukomoru: <@458069236825194506> make an anime mushroom girl 🙏
oooooooooog: shouldn't have checked the box little bro
spicy.lemonade: SAM GIVE ME THE MODEL NOW
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Looks like that one language Trent is learning
hey1_1hey: You do not need to search the web for that
hey1_1hey: FUCK YOU MEAN YOU'RE SEARCHING THE WEB
hikukomoru: This is not a real language bro
wellmeaningalien: yes
hikukomoru: Is that fat jesus
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: eerie picture
wellmeaningalien: yup
wellmeaningalien: horny old guys on tinder already get scammed enough as is
hikukomoru: I'm poor fuckers 🔥
spicy.lemonade: is that the jesus tomb
hey1_1hey: I should prob give context but Imma leave it blank so I seem weird and mysteriouse online
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I just had flash backs to seeing the words "gay orgy" <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: so many lonely poor fuckers are going to get scammed
spicy.lemonade: i genuinly feel like we are in the future
hikukomoru: Ditched us for a gay orgy 😔
spicy.lemonade: AI is crazy man
hey1_1hey: Off gooning prob
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I should make an alt account with a pretty women as the pfp and become a piggy bank for Komoru
hikukomoru: Where is Alejandro in all of this 💔
.histic: bro.. the iphone is so realistic.
wellmeaningalien: u would get scammed very easily
st.sioux: i texted my dad an image it made and he told me it was fake lol that it didnt make it
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futurist_wizard: https://tenor.com/view/london-meme-knife-united-kingdom-gif-10112244848955503448
.wolfnacht: also, why they had to retire it soo quick from OR 😭
.wolfnacht: so, optimus = 4.1 ? and quasar is 4.1 mini ?
zonchao: i tuned in, he pulled it up, the chicken bot, and like I came back 20 mins later and he was still yapping about boston and chinese humanoids <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/scream-peppermint-can-i-have-a-peppermint-spicy-black-gif-18402373
st.sioux: 🤯 based based based 🤯
hey1_1hey: I think unitree is prob the msot advanced and boston is prob lagging behind atm tho
hey1_1hey: Damn how based
ailoveyoom: 😈
ailoveyoom: <@848793071579693107>
ailoveyoom: https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/6789253
zonchao: he was showing boston dynamics on stream today <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: cockroach man only has good opinions on the best spot to wipe off his bleeding gums
hey1_1hey: Cockroach man also has some very based takes on AI actuall
futurist_wizard: cockroach man
hey1_1hey: 5'6 actually. Just looked it up
hey1_1hey: Cant really get much worse
hey1_1hey: Also bald
hey1_1hey: 4'11 body builder on steroids
precariousworlds.: Looks like a neanderthal lol
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/testingcatalog/status/1911880835994694133
hey1_1hey: He just has so many based takes
hey1_1hey: Mike isratel is one of my favourite "AI" youtubers.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/asmon-asmongold-asmon-gold-streamer-gif-14367015105928358791
gamerbath: bodybuilder? he looks more like a headbuilder
himekokatagiri: cope mode on
himekokatagiri: It's an entire week right
himekokatagiri: Okay what else is OAI gonna announce
futurist_wizard: upload
futurist_wizard: bodybuilder man
futurist_wizard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7blFVMmqzdk
sieventer: 2.5 Pro has 65k output max output tokens
destrucules: Also May 2024? Bruh. That's so long ago 😭
destrucules: It's 1048576, not 1047576
destrucules: Lmao they made a typo in the context length
st.sioux: did they update their models page in the developer site?
destrucules: 4.1 mini does
destrucules: Imo 4.1 nano does not pass the vibe check
wellmeaningalien: whats going on google deepmind
destrucules: Anyone play with the 4.1 models yet? What's the vibe, especially for the smaller ones?
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wellmeaningalien: a lot of people have done this but the thing about agi is that it could as well come in many shapes and sizes and has many different superfluous definitions, just as a human has 80 billion neurons and a whale has 500 billion neurons. considering the fact we know so little about the brain neither, and how to really quantify the intelligence of a synapse, there have been estimates but only educated guesses.
wellmeaningalien: that werent even widespread in the beginning
wellmeaningalien: do y'all even remember nightshade was a thing and ive seen people mocking that scaling models will get rid of the effects
joaoluz19: Guys, using our knowledge of algorithmic complexity and computer architecture (classical) can we calculate the minimum computational power needed to run an AGI or ASI?
Suppose we find the trillion-dollar algorithm that can make the computer interpret and produce knowledge of the world.
wellmeaningalien: every time a post on social media about a new tool to poison AI image / text datasets comes out and luddites go "Hooray reddit! We've done it! We've defeated AI" while AI continues to gets betters
theaiguy69420_89814: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna199420
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/_akhaliq/status/1907977583301472505
wolf3404: So is Devin 2 better than Replit or not
brain4brain: Wow, it’s like watching Pantheon in text form without the family dynamic
brain4brain: I thought the Chinese stealing part was wild and funny, I was not prepared for the ending
brain4brain: Why is this website cool af: https://ai-2027.com/
brain4brain: Thats the pre mystery model era, my post now gets a few likes and more views than before 😎
futurist_wizard:
clevermoniker: i do love open source too, but i like testing frontier capabilities to see what's next. Most of my gens would not involved 4o because of censorship tho and even tho i almost never gen ||nudity||, i do make ||teasing stuff even if its fully clothed||
.histic: it's over.
futurist_wizard:
.histic: probably
futurist_wizard: Placebo
futurist_wizard: Idk
futurist_wizard: It seems to be better
futurist_wizard: Did openai update the image ting
trent_k:
.histic: mf changes their pfp every hour
trent_k: Your new profile picture is nice. Good job
hikukomoru: Bro gets zero likes and zero retweets not like anyone’s gonna see it anyways
st.sioux: damn bro why you gotta do him like that
.histic: true, we need authoritarianism.
trent_k: Fuck free speech
brain4brain: There was never free speech on X
zoermena: Damn ok 🫠
brain4brain: Never posting you anyways don't worry
zoermena: If you ever post me censor me please <@848793071579693107>
spicy.lemonade: Don’t mind
st.sioux: free speech is cringe
drewsni: I just think you’re cringe
trent_k: I have a xitter and I've only ever xeeted like 2 or 3 times and 1 of them got me suspended. Free speech my ass
brain4brain: Drewsny tried to make ragebait and failed miserably 🙏🏻
futurist_wizard: Deported to El Salvador
st.sioux: straight to guantanamo
trent_k: I'm joining ms13
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drewsni: No offense Alejandro
drewsni: Why is everyone being weird in the last like 30 minutes
alejandrozarzuelo: An eternal universe, or any universe that is infinite in at least one of the dimensions implies the possibility of infinite copies of <@749514473303179358> existing, several of which would be significantly more sympathetic and amicable than him
spacetimetsunami: How come?
fractalcomputer: I'd be quite bothered by an eternal universe.
spacetimetsunami: Yet inflationary
spacetimetsunami: Eternal universe
spacetimetsunami: Yeah true. It would be crazy if true
fractalcomputer: Too inconclusive results in order to predict a particular theory.
spacetimetsunami: That fascinates me
spacetimetsunami: What do you think of Roger Penrose’s conformal cyclical cosmology (CCC)?
fractalcomputer: Curious.
fractalcomputer: Cosmology is indeed quite fun.
spacetimetsunami: I’m super interested in astrophysics and cosmology, just haven’t done the research I want to
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. Used to do consults for people looking to expand their maxillas, interested in jaw surgeries and how to naturally optimize the function/structure of their faces.
fractalcomputer: I would've thought you the physics type.
fractalcomputer: Dentistry? That is quite unusual for someone in these quarters.
spacetimetsunami: That shit
spacetimetsunami: Like modern humans having underdeveloped facial skeletons relative to relatively recent ancestors
spacetimetsunami: Don’t know a lot about it, relative to everything else. A bit but, things I know most about, in order is
1. Airway dentistry and Orthodontics
2. General cosmology and astronomy
And like, random other shit. I know *so* much about the first thing though, was obsessed with it worked in ortho and researched for years
fractalcomputer: What do you think of physics?
fractalcomputer: Pity.
spacetimetsunami: Also no clue. I have no idea which I would be highest in but I would assume perceptual reasoning.
I had it done in high school because I thought I was actually retarded. Turns out, just have severe ADHD, pure o OCD, lol
fractalcomputer: I'm not particularly interested in quantifying myself in that sense; it is a repugnantly narcissistic way of thinking, and if it's one thing that I do not want to encourage, it's my narcissistic tendencies.
fractalcomputer: But that could just be autism.
fractalcomputer: That I have no idea. I only know that I have a verbal memory much higher than the average person.
spacetimetsunami: Like the WAIS-IV
spacetimetsunami: I think that comes from the more elaborate iq tests
spacetimetsunami: Have you ever tested your processing speed, verbal comprehension, quantitative reasoning, etc?
fractalcomputer: But I'd be a fool to think that would be the limit of what I can do. Innocence is a significant factor in cognitive creativity.
fractalcomputer: Right about ~140 since the last time I took that test.
spacetimetsunami: Well, tied with online score. Not offline.
spacetimetsunami: I am tied with 2.5 pro rn. What’s your score?
fractalcomputer: Besides, membership would be entirely superfluous. Would a particular instance of a model (whatever that would mean) be a member or would the model, as a product, be a member?
fractalcomputer: No, because Mensa is an egoist club.
memlaswaif: will we get an ai thats accepted into mensa this year
fractalcomputer: Most certainly.
fractalcomputer: The online test isn't their "primary" test. They offer one in private but you'd have to be a fool to pay for that expense.
ldj: So mensa norway being online is more like the exception and not the rule really
ldj: Many of the legitimate Iq treats are never published on the internet
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retrerox: No
sweetievee__33649: this you?
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/headpats-gif-18218266808223957213
retrerox: Maybe 👉 👈 😳
sweetievee__33649: oh you into that furry shit
retrerox: I got rengar from league 😔 👌
sweetievee__33649: are they going to kiss
retrerox: I cant hold my laugh
sweetievee__33649: 🙏 Sam Altman please 👉 👈
retrerox: man im dying
sweetievee__33649: i need an anime husbundo/waifu
destrucules: You're absolutely right about why UBI will be delayed until it's a crisis. But the crisis will happen. You can't have a country of 200 million people starving to death and expect to keep the price of Uber Eats steady
retrerox: Furries will be happy once that happen 🐱
joaoluz19: Lets goooo
_3sphere: Pleasure cube enjoyers will die out 😭
retrerox: Cant wait Neuralink let me have my own virtual husbando
joaoluz19: On that day we will see that humanity has succeeded.
retrerox: Didnt let me use trump or china president 😭
retrerox: AI losing power
_3sphere: Superhuman waifu persuasion
spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> .
fractalcomputer: And we're not even scratching the surface of the vast sea of problems posed by superhuman persuasion.
fractalcomputer: Or, for example, if a superintelligence with a particular penchant for abstract mathematics revealed to us - by some twist of fate - a *finite* albeit practically inexecutable or incomprehensible proof by human standards for some known interesting problem or conjecture etc., human mathematicians wouldn't *and* shouldn't naturally accept the proof.
futurist_wizard: What he said
fractalcomputer: And that is a very naive conception of the epistemological capabilities of a superintelligence; indeed, there conceivably arise novel reasons for sceptic doubt when interacting with such intelligences, e.g., one can never really understand the ulterior motives of such an intelligence for revealing given knowledge or never really know whether whatever it would claim as truth is an adequate representation of - in some sense - objective reality insofar as it perceives it.
futurist_wizard: It wouldn't be omniscient
joaoluz19: True
joaoluz19: At most what you can have is a global maximum in the companion vector space
_3sphere: Pleasure maximization vs agency maximization
futurist_wizard: If you rewired your brain anything could give you 100x bliss
joaoluz19: There's no problem in pursuing other things like a higher purpose, but it's always good to keep in mind that the types of emotions a waifu can stimulate can go far beyond what this world can offer, even if you're the "luckiest" person in that regard.
_3sphere: True but like in terms of knowledge
futurist_wizard: It can die just like us
futurist_wizard: It definitely isn't god
_3sphere: We all kinda just think superintelligence = God 🙃
futurist_wizard: Like fist fighting or being a criminal
futurist_wizard: That is true, just saying i feel like I'd be prioritised with other things in a total matrix like simulation
hikukomoru: I can live in the Reykjavik sewers
hikukomoru: Wrong
I’m a sewer rat so I belong in the sewers
fractalcomputer: It is interesting to note that there has not been as much talk of the epistemics of superintelligence (implications thereof, etc.) as there has been for the ethics of superintelligence (the goal theses etc.), when it is precisely the inhuman epistemological capacities of superintelligence that characterise a superintelligent entity.
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memlaswaif: Probably a while
spacetimetsunami: No, I mean levels of computation relative to cognitive tasks.
destrucules: Humans typically use about 10^24 FLOPs to reach cognitive maturity
destrucules: Already are
oooooooooog: is it because subaru is cringe... ??? i can get that at least. sometimes i have to close my eyes when that happens, or it's too intense for me
futurist_wizard: And then you became happy after rejecting anime
oooooooooog: what part in particular bro
oooooooooog: how 😭
futurist_wizard: Gay men are happy when they are kissing boys, this isn't a coincidence
memlaswaif: rezero single handedly made me stop watching weeb stuff
oooooooooog: thats what the word means
futurist_wizard: Happiness is gay
oooooooooog: it's harder to do
oooooooooog: whereas u can't get sad by frowning
oooooooooog: happy
oooooooooog: you just have to smile and bam
oooooooooog: but it's way too easy to feel happy
oooooooooog: me too, it's my favorite feeling
futurist_wizard: I think the real world has a positive ratio on suffering
memlaswaif: I like being happy
oooooooooog: real life already has as much happieness as you need, thats why you get the suffering from fictions
memlaswaif: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142> no
futurist_wizard: Weebs do not have muscle mass
oooooooooog: the suffering is what makes it good though.... ???
memlaswaif: well I read the ln too and it was trash I had to drop it
memlaswaif: nothing good ever happens in that anime
oooooooooog: ur cooked lil bro
memlaswaif: It's too much sufferring porn
memlaswaif: I'm hating lol
futurist_wizard: Terraria is kinda mid
oooooooooog: also don't wory memla's waif i was joking about torturing you
oooooooooog: idc if you slander me
oooooooooog: i meant re zero terraria ninja.io slander
st.sioux: no emojin cringe
futurist_wizard: Terraria
oooooooooog: what jokes
memlaswaif: Joke on u
memlaswaif:
st.sioux: you ugly >:)
oooooooooog: i can't take the slander
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.histic: wait, whats ur user on reddit
spicy.lemonade: Kind of the point of the sub
spicy.lemonade: Not farming then
.histic: anything interesting or insightful ig
spicy.lemonade: How would you farm
spicy.lemonade: Like with respect to singularity
spicy.lemonade: What’s that
.histic: i farm karma meaninglessly.
just engagement farming
spicy.lemonade: Which is odd conscidering people are more likeley to vote than comment
spicy.lemonade: We have same amount of comments
spicy.lemonade: I think this means my posts are hella controversial
.histic: here's my flex 😎
spicy.lemonade: My r/singularity posts always average like 80k views and 500 upvotes lol
wolf3404: https://x.com/grok/status/1912318583532872166
ldj: or just something with RL
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: GPT scaling hypothesis
ldj: ok dm me
spicy.lemonade: Lemme send
ldj: what did your post contain?
ldj: what was the rage bait?
spicy.lemonade: I’m crying
spicy.lemonade: Saw friends DMs
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: How did I manage to rage bait ceo of epoch
spicy.lemonade: My post on 2.5
robert_46007: help. I have been banned a few days ago on r/singularity whatever the reason I did not break any rule intentionally (and I still see many posts like mine) I tried writing to mods from reddit but got no answer. Can anyone help or tell me what to do?
ldj: what singularity post
_cloudost: https://www.vxreddit.com/r/OpenAI/s/oVPYKtZNOh wonder what that idea was, Altman.
wolf3404: Intellect 2 training progress
wolf3404: https://app.primeintellect.ai/intelligence/intellect-2
metaldragon01: This is largely the reason
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1k07qv9/nvidia_shares_drop_6_in_after_hours_trading_after/
spicy.lemonade: Which is strange
spicy.lemonade: Is bc of issues with rate limits still
spicy.lemonade: The reason 2.5 hasn’t been benchmarked
spicy.lemonade: Also
spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040> epoch ai is falling apart
spicy.lemonade: Also
spicy.lemonade: They saw my singularity post lmao
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st.sioux: because its a personality cult
sieventer: Like RFK hype that basically meant nothing to society
st.sioux: i want to download the pdf but i am scared it has a virus or some shit
trey6033: Fr tho, why put Trump front and center
gamerbath: with trump here on the landing page it looks like a conspiracy theory
gamerbath: yea
sieventer: But it's funny the way it's presented in that website xD
sieventer: Nothing weird about that in 2025
sieventer: It's well-know that COVID is likely to be a lab leak
gamerbath: here's the source, 557 pages of stuff that supposedly proves covid-19 was not natural and created by humans in china
futurist_wizard: Same thing
otub: you mean doge
st.sioux: run for the hills everyone
futurist_wizard: Like some 18 year old Qanon made it
zoermena: Brain rot
futurist_wizard: That is the maddest ting ive seen all day
futurist_wizard: Come on
futurist_wizard: Bro it has to be hacked
gamerbath: oh god
futurist_wizard: What the fuck is going on with covid.gov
futurist_wizard: Oh my fuck
hikukomoru: No that’s Fractal
st.sioux: destrucules is agi
hikukomoru: destrucules says we’ve had AGI since like 2016 or smth
gamerbath: 2025
hikukomoru: 2027
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/argument-won-leaving-thanos-portal-portal-leaving-gif-23953763
aero447: 2035.
abundantliving_: everything computer ?
st.sioux: yes
hikukomoru: How
wolf3404: https://www.palladiummag.com/2025/04/18/the-moon-should-be-a-computer/
himekokatagiri: lol
ai9708: its over
ai9708: nope, agi seems further away than ever within the last few years
mantegh5061: are we winning
trojan09205: It would probably be more sustainable to plan to orchestrate smaller more significant structural developments with quality control every 5 years and implement a 50-75 year plan
trojan09205: Ten years is a very short timespan
abundantliving_: anything exciting today or next week ?
spicy.lemonade: there is more pessimistic normie data out there
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retrerox: Exactly
memlaswaif: <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421> what r u sayin
retrerox: Dying allow us to not need to work again so kinda win win?
retrerox: We either exitint or we live without needing to work again
retrerox: I kinda see weird we make ai good on politics. Cuz the only reason why we need politicians is because people are dumb in general
memlaswaif: maybe
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
retrerox: With a anime girl next to it will make people to not be afraid of ai?
oimrqs: It's fun
memlaswaif: yeah i couldn't help but cringe
.wolfnacht: would be better if there was just phonk instead of that weebshit.
oimrqs: What I love about all this industry is that we will know how right people are pretty quickly, within 3 years this all will be settled
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/arithmoquine/status/1908288939586445324
_cloudost:
memlaswaif: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
zonchao: > The federal judge, Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers, denied Musk's request to pause OpenAI's transition to a for-profit model while the lawsuit is ongoing. Instead, the judge opted for an expedited trial, scheduling it for spring 2026.
zonchao: nvm
zonchao: > The condition for SoftBank's investment into OpenAI, as part of the $40 billion funding round announced on March 31, 2025, was that OpenAI must restructure into a for-profit entity by December 31, 2025. If this restructuring does not occur, SoftBank's total investment could be reduced from $40 billion to $20 billion. Specifically, SoftBank agreed to provide an initial $10 billion in April 2025, with an additional $30 billion to follow by the end of 2025, contingent on the successful transition to a for-profit structure.
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
gamerbath: OpenAI's AGI will handle that lawsuit pretty well
zonchao: does this mean he won?
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1908315046997897567?
zonchao: fake news
zonchao: hello
retrerox: Yeah specially the hands move
spicy.lemonade: humans are so slow
futurist_wizard: Just naturally by increasing prices of gpus
spicy.lemonade: cant wait gfor recursive self improvement
futurist_wizard: Killing yes
hikukomoru: Hi zon 👋
zonchao: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1908529639288418624?
fractalcomputer: Much appreciated.
fractalcomputer: It'd be nice if you could speak proper English while voicing your grievances with the state of the subreddit.
hikukomoru: What sub
zonchao: doomers
czdct: just generally
_cloudost: Ig I should invest my time in writing really creative stories then?
brain4brain: By the time you finish the course Veo3 will probably come out and be able to do it, also RunwayML is best for animation right now
.wolfnacht: https://hailuoai.video/create they are giving 100 credits for demo
.wolfnacht: minimax used to give free generations for 5s but that was around the launch
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return_to_monke1_33974:
ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: Well he also quite literally said AI programmers will be taking over most of METAs coding work within 18 months
zonchao: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
return_to_monke1_33974: dont want another gronk 3
zonchao: dont want another 4.5
return_to_monke1_33974: opinion (true facts): all companies should give all the compute to OpenAI and Google
zonchao: 4*
ailoveyoom: Hope he makes a comeback 🙏
ailoveyoom: A king fumbles from time to time (Google) but look at them now 😍
literallyvarane: Not terribly shocking, but for me at least confirms META isn’t the same tier of lab as the big 3 US.
literallyvarane: It’s a really interesting interview though. For me it’s quite clear he’s not really even *aiming* for AGI, he’s aiming for a good product to exist within Meta’s existing apps.
zonchao: zucc been fumbling his rebrand recently
rayanquitplayin: I see, 😂
ldj: 2T was already confirmed by Meta weeks ago btw
zonchao: no, was joking about a researcher saying he did not work on llama 4 on his linkedin cus the model sucks so bad, if you worked on it you have less aura points<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
literallyvarane: 8:30+ is really weird? He just blatantly says they tuned for the leaderboard, but doesn’t really explain *why.*
It’s a “yeah everyone knows it can be gamed. We gamed it.”
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't disagree, I do think we will have some off billion androids in the 2040s
I disagree with the curve to get there
rayanquitplayin: You worked on Llama 4?
zonchao: (I DID NOT WORK ON LLAMA 4)
zonchao: is he wearing the new meta glasses?
rayanquitplayin: My first prompt to Meta
zonchao: even if thats the case, highly unlikely, he is cooking the numbers
literallyvarane: It might given it’s technically incorporated to FB/Instagram etc
zonchao: meta ai does not have 1 billion users what is he yappin about
ailoveyoom: Have we just forgotten about sus Maverick 😔
ailoveyoom: So what was the official explanation for goofy Llama perfs tho?
zonchao: he went from mid 2025 to 12-18 months for code 💀
literallyvarane: Bro said Behemoth L4 will be 2T params and “sorta at the frontier.”
fractalcomputer: I can confirm.
return_to_monke1_33974: to a reptilian , the word funny has a diferent meaning
ailoveyoom: Also <@379982824591065108> Meta has an AI app that seems to integrate with their Raybans now
rayanquitplayin: That’ll drop prices too right?
futurist_wizard: This is 100 years
literallyvarane: 1:30 in and the damage control has started lolol
return_to_monke1_33974: car production by year
image how faster humanoids robots will be
futurist_wizard: The world being funnier is not reassuring
fractalcomputer: Or maybe one should not entertain "hypotheticals" based on a single datum.
literallyvarane: Gassed for this damage control pod
rayanquitplayin: Scaffolding
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destrucules: But I've maintained for years now that we achieved AGI sometime between 2018 and 2022 depending on whether you define AGI as
1. General intelligence (2018)
2. Human level intelligence (2020)
3. Matching or exceeding the median human intelligence (2022)
destrucules: Everything moves one year forward
destrucules: I'm explaining
brain4brain: So you shift from AGI 2025 to AGI 2026?
destrucules: And then there was this annoying inching behavior where one lab would exceed GPT-4 level by 0.1%, and then another lab would exceed that level by 0.1%, and then another lab would exceed that by 0.1%
st.sioux: why is it your opinion that nothing happened in 2024
destrucules: If you guys recall, a bunch of labs went right up to GPT-4 capabilities and no further. Like... Conspicuously exact parity with GPT-4. There are more models of GPT-4 capabilities than there are of GPT-3.5 capabilities
destrucules: They basically kept up just enough to prevent people from thinking the industry had died, but not so much that people felt like we were moving forward
oooooooooog: i agree
destrucules: The labs didn't want to attract regulatory attention or make themselves a topic of debates during the election year
destrucules: Nope. DeepSeek didn't start this in motion. November 2024 did, because the election year ended
brain4brain: Maybe it’s gatekept research and the pressure from DeepSeek might form them to release all 2024 research out at once
destrucules: The compute budgets for the frontier models coming out today are well within the compute we had at the beginning of 2024
destrucules: 2024 was just this big empty gap of absolutely nothing happening
destrucules: At the same pace I predicted for 2024
destrucules: 2025 is doing everything I thought 2024 would do
.histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtcJvurmFhA
lol
destrucules: 2024 was a dead year so my timeline got shifted one year forward
destrucules: Scary amounts of job losses and layoffs
brain4brain: Your timeline have delayed since the last time I remembered
spacetimetsunami: Man I hope so, shiittt…
What do you think EOY this year will be like
destrucules: By definition of "bigger"
destrucules: There is no number bigger than itself
destrucules: That makes absolutely no sense
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
spacetimetsunami: If humans get more hands we don’t get better at solving aging
destrucules: Late 2026
oooooooooog: humans are already super intelligent, it's just that we are limited by out interface and our scaffolding
destrucules: These terms are messy. If you take the letters in AGI seriously, we've had AGI since 2018. If you take ASI to include narrow AIs that are better than humans in at least one thing, we've had those since like... The 1950s
spacetimetsunami: Okay, then when do you think we have models that super intelligently can automate all cognitive tasks , because they’re super intelligent enough AND they have the autonomous capabilities required to go off and do so.
destrucules: But yeah <@452692813511917568> we're already there. What's "missing" is that the AIs are put into very restrictive deployment environments where their affordances are limited by their interface, their scaffolding, not their intelligence
zonchao: <@471334973379706900> https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1905703194329825641?
oooooooooog: isn't that just a point towards my claim though? the big boobies from that prompt are now manifest in a way the human could not previously do, and the combined system now has more intelligence. naturally, the being with more agency lays complete claim to that intelligence
at least, if you take an economic perspective on intelligence
.histic: y'know, i just realized there's no 'G' in ASI, but there is a 'G' in AGI. in some ways, something can be artificially superintelligent, but in other ways not. maybe we already have ASI in certain forms. but that depends on our interpretation - many people would say you need to pass AGI to reach ASI, which implies ASI is generally superintelligent. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
spacetimetsunami: Guess I’ve never seen feigning
spacetimetsunami: Oh
destrucules: feigning means faking
destrucules: *fiending
spacetimetsunami: I’m feigning for that dopamine…
spacetimetsunami: What did
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zonchao: magats don't live there
shirethedreamer: we lmao
you think you have a sit at the table
anathemaofmankind: You just said it
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: there are more countries in the worls
anathemaofmankind: You think AI art violates copyright?
alejandrozarzuelo: In the us? sure
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
alejandrozarzuelo: because it violates copyright?
zonchao: we the pro tech party now
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont wanna be associated with them
alejandrozarzuelo: it gives AI art a bad name
zonchao: why
anathemaofmankind: Because why would you?
alejandrozarzuelo: tbh i hate magats using AI
anathemaofmankind: There's no incentive to train something with public works
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, thats the thing, the AIs trained with public works are barely behind SOTA
zonchao: https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1905489244724101126?
anathemaofmankind: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1hayb7v/the_first_images_of_the_public_diffusion_model/
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, most art is public since its been done by people who are not alive anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: It should be easy to train an AI on just public works
alejandrozarzuelo: However
alejandrozarzuelo: The problem is that many people say it's violating copyright law
alejandrozarzuelo: The thing is, both are neural networks that modify themselves when they observe other works of art
anathemaofmankind: Bro just generated hitler and nothing else how dull
anathemaofmankind: Normies are fucking morons so that's how it is
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: with fake art
spicy.lemonade: 8 likes on art server
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: they think all it does is filter
spicy.lemonade: its pissing me off
spicy.lemonade: chatgpt filter
spicy.lemonade: people are calling 4o native image
spicy.lemonade: also
spicy.lemonade: reasoning with image is gonna be another wtf moment
spicy.lemonade: loll
futurist_wizard: This bum should be fired immediately
futurist_wizard: So far it hasn't
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.histic: this comment got me
drewsni: Their methodology isn’t scientific in the slightest, I’m offended you’d think I’m that dumb
otub: yw
otub: i looked 10 mins for this
otub:
drewsni: Is someone pretending to be me
.histic: idk, reminded me of you lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jly82c/the_new_4o_is_unreasonably_good_at_guessing/
otub: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/18joehb/i_was_bored_so_i_used_ai_to_make_a_short_manga/
drewsni: Who is that
drewsni: No
.histic: <@88481490228228096> are u FakeTunaFromSubway?
_cloudost: Should I delete their posts
_cloudost: I'm moderating a server that has an AI channel and all the members in the server keep posting anti AI news, I'm the only one that posts pro AI news SMH
zoermena: Decent but not perfect it’s better to get the art style and ask for it
zoermena: Not great
_letterbox: I'm not sure how good it is at mimicking the style of an image you feed to it
_letterbox: https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jltnpz/you_can_now_adapt_an_entire_movie_into_a_comic/
Fuck me if i can make a manga with it i'll shell out that 20 bucks
bob082957: Tweet
.histic: edgy NPCs
joaoluz19: Does anyone have that comic of the guy who says "AGI BITCHES"
_cloudost: they need to be out on a watchlist
st.sioux: why are there so many "die" or "kill ai artists" comments wtf
_cloudost: https://x.com/_alexhirsch/status/1905345424661381384?s=46&t=dds9ctjIf339PZ-apJ-YyQ Someone whose entire career relies on drawing and animating says AI drawing looks like shit, is he possibly in denial because he can't accept the fact that his career will be worth a penny in the next few years?
technocake.: much seething
technocake.: https://www.reddit.com/r/whenthe/comments/1jlydq6/horrible_slop/
apology0759: Anyone who likes horrors?
st.sioux: what is this
bob082957:
3ds0662: Same but if we don’t achieve the singularity
clevermoniker: https://x.com/UnslothAI/status/1904717086041268676
3ds0662: Last one lol 😂 newton vs Albert
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/SLfhXZe3
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/f-Za6o_K
3ds0662: Ai video has come a long way
3ds0662: This was soo creative
st.sioux: lmao
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/CqBQdTDb
technocake.: and super useful for modeling
technocake.: numerically they are a piece of piss
joaoluz19: Yep, horrendous
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hikukomoru: I won't feel the AGI until I have an android maid cleaning my house
zoermena: Next month
wellmeaningalien: SATs mean a whole lot about whether u are retarded or intellectually capable
anathemaofmankind: Yes I agree
literallyvarane: GPT 4.20 or 4.69 when?
wellmeaningalien: in that moment we all felt the AGI
hikukomoru: Benchmarks don't really mean that much in the real world
metaldragon01: With longer context
metaldragon01: 4.1 is sonnet 3.7 level
literallyvarane: GPT 3.9 when??
anathemaofmankind: It was above humans in the ARC AGI benchmark
literallyvarane: Get in here we doing ANY type of model name now lololol
hikukomoru: Lmao why
spicy.lemonade: We are so back
anathemaofmankind: I was tricked and thought it was like AGI or smthing
literallyvarane:
spicy.lemonade: Lmaoooo
spicy.lemonade: music right after art
wellmeaningalien: my guess: deepseek v3.1/gemini 2.0 pro level model
ailoveyoom: Bro I remember you being hyped for that o3 reveal on the livestream 😭
spicy.lemonade: lol no way he’s going music
anathemaofmankind: It's gonna be a mid release
anathemaofmankind: Hyping as usual
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/by-the-window-solstafir-season-of-mist-her-fall-from-grace-song-thinking-of-something-gif-18821301
wellmeaningalien: bro is edging our cocks very very VERY hard
abundantliving_: https://x.com/sama/status/1910363838001869199
metaldragon01: Both models strong
metaldragon01: optimus has a lower aider score (see where someone ran it above) and look at my benchmarks lol gpqa diamond is 60% vs quasar alpha at 67%
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/daniel-larson-daniel-larson-daniellarson-lolcow-gif-17950570439600588607
wellmeaningalien: <@471334973379706900> what i tell you boy
anathemaofmankind: Sounds boring as shit
metaldragon01: Check openrouter discord
wellmeaningalien: kekekekekekekek
metaldragon01: It's still good
spicy.lemonade: It just came out
spicy.lemonade: Really?
metaldragon01: Lower coding score I think
metaldragon01: Optimus is mini
wellmeaningalien: hm
spicy.lemonade: Therefore quasar is mini
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spicy.lemonade: wdym insignificant
trey6033: Nah, chat needs more roasting
spicy.lemonade: its the fastest growing scientific field of all time
fractalcomputer: Yes, all has been quite insignificant, lol.
spicy.lemonade: its the clearest sign of progress
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: but its not the least sign
fractalcomputer: Right, so it *is* about latching on to the least signs of progress.
spicy.lemonade: people were just saying anything
spicy.lemonade: nothing was happening
spicy.lemonade: tech news was slow
spicy.lemonade: in 2020 ai news was slow
spicy.lemonade: and neuralink doesnt have as many breakthroughs as openAI
spicy.lemonade: because thats not the topic at hand
fractalcomputer: The last time I saw someone writing such nonsense was in 2020.
spicy.lemonade: neuralink and all that
rayanquitplayin: Hi
spicy.lemonade: yes. we wanted ASI such that we can merge with it
fractalcomputer: I've been on the subreddit for roughly a decade.
zoermena: I still want to augment myself, more than anything because my health is ass
fractalcomputer: No?
spicy.lemonade: its always been the second
fractalcomputer: The general sentiment has shifted from augmenting oneself to something more than human in a universe with no limits to trembling in anticipation of human obsolescence.
st.sioux: sheesh
fractalcomputer: It has been an interesting journey to witness the community transforming from the general transhumanist space to something approximating an anxious Messiah cult.
spicy.lemonade: too emberasing to post
spicy.lemonade: lol the chatlog
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/flirt-whose-line-is-it-anyway-you-find-me-very-attractive-seduce-ryan-stiles-gif-5458916
spicy.lemonade: if this fails i blame 4.5
spicy.lemonade: from her point of view
spicy.lemonade: apparemtly
spicy.lemonade: the main issue was me being a bit unserious
spicy.lemonade: I dont want plausible deniability
st.sioux: yea
st.sioux: drunk text
spicy.lemonade: "this boy is horny"
spicy.lemonade: cause she would think
spicy.lemonade: I didnt wanna send it at night
spicy.lemonade: 💀
st.sioux: rip bozo
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ailoveyoom: Bro ikr why are anime skirts so short 😭
spicy.lemonade:
trent_k: lmao anime ppl
trent_k: no no no you dont understand the upskirts of the high school girls are for the teenage girl audience, not the adult male audience
futurist_wizard: they all have upskirt shots, its just so sexually implied
anathemaofmankind: Name 10 animes
hikukomoru: K bro
I already know you're one of those "😭" mfs on xitter
wellmeaningalien: (I didnt even think)
wellmeaningalien: I tried
fractalcomputer: That would be wrong.
anathemaofmankind: Uh huh
wellmeaningalien: 1
anathemaofmankind: Wrong mention
hikukomoru: I think you're just pretending to be retarded
anathemaofmankind: Sounds like you were projecting <@505313122802728972>
fractalcomputer: Suppose we have some integer to the power of some other integer. The integer immediately before it is a prime. What are the possible values of the second number mentioned?
ailoveyoom: Ask the AI bro 😭
wellmeaningalien: update it
wellmeaningalien: do it
anathemaofmankind: Well this is not my experience
wellmeaningalien: thats so sad
trent_k: wrote the code ages ago and dont feel like updating it lol
hikukomoru: Most animes have highschool age mcs and all the girls are sexualized
ailoveyoom: Prolly cheaper
wellmeaningalien: have u thought of updating the model to gemini 2.0 flash or sum
ailoveyoom: Why not use Flash?
wellmeaningalien: i mean the users are completely unknowing here
futurist_wizard: Because its self evident you only need to see few clips to get that impression
trent_k: i use claude 3 haiku to classify them
hikukomoru: I watch lots of anime and he's right
wellmeaningalien: LMAOOO
trent_k: read the privacy policy pal 😏
wellmeaningalien: POST
wellmeaningalien: and how do u know they have an anime pfp
trent_k: i made a big post about the data on kiwi farms. there's actually some extremely alarming stuff in there and theres nothing i can do about it because discord wont ban them
hikukomoru: Go ahead 🫦 🫦
Just don't call me a hag
wellmeaningalien: OH MY GOD SO ur bot is in 5000 servers and ur just spying on people lik that
anathemaofmankind: How would you know if you don't watch them
wellmeaningalien: ITS OVER IM GONNA CANCEL U TRENT
ailoveyoom: Does this mean I can call you mommy 😍
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wellmeaningalien:
drewsni: someone made dalle slop in 4o lmao
hikukomoru: Woman is temporary
Portuguese Empire is forever 🇵🇹
hey1_1hey: Is that tony starks and elon musks love child
zoermena: I have plus and can´t make images I´m going to cry
wellmeaningalien: the garlic poster making market is in shambles
wellmeaningalien: poor boy is sleeping or something and missing out on this
drewsni:
st.sioux: garlic poster makers are so done bro
hey1_1hey: You see portugal, I see women
We are no the same
wellmeaningalien: let <@688807313015963693> take the spotlight
wellmeaningalien: fuck you portugal youre not part of this
hey1_1hey: Damnnnn
hikukomoru: PORTUGAL SPOTTED!!! 🇵🇹
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: the world is gonna look so vibrant
oooooooooog: go even further beyond
spicy.lemonade: beyond no elephant
spicy.lemonade: holyyyyy
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: It's over, AI winter is upon us
hey1_1hey: Prob the artists bombing them
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Where is AGI 💔
hey1_1hey: I NEED THE NEW MODEL I AM BEGGING YOU I WILL DO ANYTHING
spicy.lemonade: no
zoermena: It´s not working for you either?
drewsni: funs over, servers have burned down
hey1_1hey: People talk about jelouse exs. They dont get autistic jelousy I have rn
spicy.lemonade: GIVE IT NOW
spicy.lemonade: GIVE ME THE MODEL OPENAI
hey1_1hey: Me to
zoermena: I´m so jealous
hikukomoru: I wanted to post Chud not anime Mao Zedong
hey1_1hey: Straight to the wank bank
hey1_1hey: Too late
joaoluz19: I was trying to make a party with Ilya, robots, spaceships and beautiful women 😦
hikukomoru: FUCK WRONG IMAGE
hikukomoru: It's so over
hey1_1hey: Let me do a big ol' think
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sweetievee__33649: whats that
sweetievee__33649: we need to turn the artists into gpus for ai art
_cloudost: He could be a false flag advocator
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/ai-art-artist-artists-bad-gif-27200499
hikukomoru: Ew
sweetievee__33649: searched up ai art and found this in gifs lmao
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/ai-art-ai-rage-angry-man-artists-gif-13023367265466851673
wellmeaningalien: artists are the more annoying of the bunch tho so i root for their destruction
wellmeaningalien: people who are excessively against or for ai art are annoying
sweetievee__33649: this guy makes me hate ai art
sweetievee__33649: what
what did i just see 💔
wellmeaningalien: Based and true
_cloudost: He generated the process with Veo 2 and and Sora, it's still AI generated
wellmeaningalien: oh yeah and their friend also had an anime dr house pfp idk how people didnt catch on
wellmeaningalien: Theyre catching onto it
wellmeaningalien:
_cloudost: Low-key looks AI
metaldragon01: https://x.com/joannejang/status/1907174171790197204
wellmeaningalien: LOL found it
_cloudost: Artists get offended so quickly, if you tell them their art looks AI they will get an existential crisis, they would rather you call their art "shit" than AI looking
joaoluz19: Based bill gates
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jok6g8/bill_gates_on_jobs/
wellmeaningalien: and then it became a whole twitter drama and even mexicans were making memes about it
wellmeaningalien: and then people got mad and he started posting ai artwork claiming it as his own just to make people really mad
wellmeaningalien: went to a random artist's movie sonic speedpaint post and called it AI
wellmeaningalien: i know a guy on another discord server
wellmeaningalien: bro
oscurrito: has to be
oscurrito: okay its satire nevermind
_cloudost: She bought those likes
_cloudost: Barely 1k
_cloudost: Her tweet was probably mass liked by bots, those replies don't add up
_cloudost: Twitter is filled with these toxic low life toxic people
futurist_wizard: its over
futurist_wizard: she got destroyed
wellmeaningalien: ai artist + comms open. lol
wellmeaningalien: honestly u cant tell me llms are any different than humans when human biology can literally be programmed to behave in the way the logic gate in a computer would
oscurrito: im crying i dont agree with the ai hate but this guy, making it real hard to defend him
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10OUPyamn1w
benata: Ahem sorry had to do it
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zonchao: LETSGOOO
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
hikukomoru:
technocake.: i would honestly not be able to keep up with who you are if not for the flair
zonchao: cybercabs in production at gigatexas lfg!!!
zonchao: i expected more from him yesterday
aero447: Ye*
aero447: You.
aero447: POV.
aero447: https://vxtwitter.com/XXL/status/1914327846664745072
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dude-i-was-here-first-craig-tucker-south-park-s13e4-the-queef-sisters-gif-22806225
zonchao: <:sad:1002546378645438564>
aero447: Fake model.
aero447: Shut up.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
zonchao: late
aero447: https://fxtwitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1914342610027561444
himekokatagiri: can we fight villains with the power of friendship
himekokatagiri: woahhh
hikukomoru: In the future all humans will be real life anime girls
hey1_1hey: Fungues are cool and based tho so humans follow suit <:ez:1136267305521774634>
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/dancing-while-crying-dancing-crying-sad-dancing-crying-in-the-club-crying-gif-14804062
inferno0879: hello elon
realelonmuskx: humans are plague. you have no more purpose than the birds on the sky. youre just another species like a fungus and octupus, and yes, there no point. floating rock orbiting a fireball forever. you are redundant, replaceable and everyone will forget you. pain, death and loss are guaranteed. cry about it.
st.sioux: too late for that
himekokatagiri: weeb takeover of r/singularity
himekokatagiri: gpt 5 can make our fanfics
hikukomoru: GPT 5 when
himekokatagiri: what are the implicationssss
aero447: A reasoner.
himekokatagiri: idk what to expect
himekokatagiri: GPT-5
himekokatagiri: man
zoermena: Im so freaking sleepy good lord
trojan09205: Didnt expect much but it was funny and cool sci fi
trojan09205: The show is kind of a great find
trojan09205: Basically in this show the bad guy becomes a disembodied brain and has sex by someone like feeling up his synapses
trojan09205: “Calculate” haha
alejandrozarzuelo: In my quantum mechanics class we had to calculate a Boltzmann brains chance of appearing lol
Although you coils have done it with anything
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