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czdct: true
nondescriptfaith: If it’s not all humans in general we are doomed. Any non benevolent institution will get us all killed
nondescriptfaith: To who then?
popsiclejohnithan: We are not aligning A.I. it will be aligning us, controlling them is out of the question it's like ants trying to control a human.
czdct: depends on what it's alligned with
czdct: why would anyone even want that lol
nondescriptfaith: Aligned AI is the MOST dangerous AI
czdct: no
nondescriptfaith: Aligned to who? The US government?
popsiclejohnithan: We are basically raising children, we need to teach them good moral values before they fully mature.
czdct: my human reasoning leads me to conclude that it if alligned properly it would lead to world into a better place than the clowns that are currently in power
nondescriptfaith: And yet your human reasoning leads you to conclude that it will safeguard our interests?
nondescriptfaith: Though that will change. Not that this lack of understanding is very reassuring either
czdct: so using human reasoning wouldn't really make sense
czdct: it would be an omnipotent being with reasoning capabilities that goes beyond ours
nondescriptfaith: Of course it doesn’t.
czdct: I don't think AI understands the concept of ethics, at least not in a way that humans do
nondescriptfaith: Or that we do retain control of AI and instruct it to slaughter other humans (ostensibly also for ethical reasons)
nondescriptfaith: Yeah assuming AI doesn’t slaughter every human for ethical reasons
czdct: point being that the world would be a better place if there was an ASI controlling it instead of the idiots we have rn
czdct: I hope it would, but even that is not guaranteed
popsiclejohnithan: But we'll be sent back to the stone age with no way to reindustrialise because all the resources will be used up, and finding a meal in the wasteland is probably a daily struggle, we may as well be extinct at that point because it's just a miserable existence from then on.
nondescriptfaith: Leaving 8 million humans alive?
nondescriptfaith: Our first failed contact with narrow AI is what gave us Trump
czdct: sure it'll just kill 99.9% of the population
czdct: seeing how an idiot like trump got voted into office should tell you everything about human intelligence (in the usa at least)
nondescriptfaith: None of those kill us all.
nondescriptfaith: Doesn’t kill us all.
popsiclejohnithan: Climate change, resource depletion, nuclear war etc, we are too slow to react to things and we only react once it's too late.
czdct: nuclear Armageddon
nondescriptfaith: Hard disagree. How do we die without super intel?
retrerox: I meant like instead of focusing in stupid wars that dont help the humanity
popsiclejohnithan: Genuinely Humanity is doomed without Superintelligence not the other way around, it will ensure our survival not out extinction, our species is simply too stupid to look after ourselves or be trusted with higher technology.
nondescriptfaith: What lol?
nondescriptfaith: I ignore the whining artists much the same as I ignore the FDVR cat girl incel-escape-velocity nerds.
I ignore anyone that says e/acc much the same as I ignore anyone that says doomer.
We got an alien intelligence arriving on Earth in <10 years and we are all set to nuke each other into the Stone Age.
retrerox: HUmanity was too busy doing wars for too much time.
retrerox: I mean we really just start to actual develop technology about like 80 years ago?
popsiclejohnithan: Technology is going to start really looking like magic to us down the line, just like how computers would make a medeval peasant shit themselves.
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly, we act like we know everything but we know nothing, our species has only been around for a blimp and we have barley scracthed the surface of what is to be learned.
nondescriptfaith: Based and understanding-the-limits-of-human-comprehension-pilled
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alejandrozarzuelo: thats lame
alejandrozarzuelo: you cant?
zoermena: Not Europe, can’t go whenever for free.
zoermena: I should buy some produce for eye health
alejandrozarzuelo: go to the doctor?
alejandrozarzuelo: you know
alejandrozarzuelo: dont you just
alejandrozarzuelo: suspect?
_3sphere: Can't believe I still don't need glasses given how I always treated my eyes
zoermena: I suspect I might’ve messed up my eye maybe diabetes? I ate like shit as a teenager.
_3sphere: Humans are so slow and yet so expensive per unit time, it actually checks out if you consider how long drawing takes and the min wage
alejandrozarzuelo: how so
alejandrozarzuelo: like photography did
_3sphere: SD 1 ahh image
_cloudost: No wonder ARTISTS are so pissed off by AI art, they love taking advantage of people's income, and yet that more people are free to express their creativity these artists oppose AI, they are tyrants pretending to be "oppressed"
_cloudost: Apparently professional artists charge 150-+500 for a single commission, no way in hell will I ever pay someone for a digital drawing.
_cloudost: This looks literally like the art style of those Twitter/reddit artists who charge $20-$30 for a single commission, Musk steals art styles but no one cares because they all know this art style is garbage
zoermena: My health is so shit, as long as I don’t die I should hopefully be able to fix everything.
literallyvarane: Hhahahaaaha this is actually dogshit
.wolfnacht: he should hav gone the open source way! atleast would have gained some sympathy from people
.wolfnacht: yikes!
_cloudost:
_cloudost: The NIG is creative as well, and understands how to replicate the personality of a fictional character, it generated a comic based on this screenshot
_cloudost:
_cloudost: And yet they want to slow down OpenAI
brain4brain: It’s actually impressive how badly his team can make it with all the compute and papers they have
_cloudost: The anime Version barely looks like Musk
brain4brain: This shit look so ass, I can’t believe he didn’t do this on purpose
st.sioux: concerning
_cloudost: The OpenAI's Native Image Generator is far FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR MORE better than Musk's grok
_cloudost: https://vxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1907327117563412944 Musk really thought this feature is useful LMAO
spicy.lemonade: deepmind always posts banger papers
spicy.lemonade: agi delayed by 6 months
spicy.lemonade: " A recent report in Financial Times claims that Google's DeepMind "has been holding back the release of its world-renowned research" to remain competitive. Accordingly the company will adopt a six-month embargo policy "before strategic papers related to generative AI are released".
In an interesting statement, a DeepMind researcher said he could "not imagine us putting out the transformer papers for general use now". Considering the impact of the DeepMind's transformer research on the development of LLMs, just think where we would have been now if they held back the research. The report also claims that some DeepMind staff left the company as their careers would be negatively affected if they are not allowed to publish their research. "
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I love when a new benchmark drops
spicy.lemonade: Hooray
spicy.lemonade: New benchmark
spicy.lemonade: https://liveswebench.ai/
spicy.lemonade: no one drops on april fools
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3ds0662: i guess he is just aura farming for now, he’ll probably tweet something positive about llama even though its an llm
.wolfnacht: The united federation of black sun.
st.sioux: guy porbabyl chilling
st.sioux: it came out like 2 microseconds ago bro chill
3ds0662: nothing about llama
3ds0662: yann last tweeted april 3rd
ailoveyoom: 🫡 🦙
_cloudost:
3ds0662:
st.sioux: llama 4
hey1_1hey: Llama 4
hey1_1hey: Seems it
ailoveyoom: Seems fr
literallyvarane: And it’s a Saturday. Have we ever had a major launch on a Saturday?
literallyvarane: I just walked into this chat and saw 102793629629 things
literallyvarane: Oh shit say less
ailoveyoom: I mean, their official account posted it no?
https://x.com/aiatmeta/status/1908598456144531660?s=46
3ds0662: let me check his twitter
.wolfnacht: also no one can run them
hey1_1hey: How many active params was deepseek?
3ds0662: lmaoo
.wolfnacht: 🥵
3ds0662: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/VR2qrwHeAh
.wolfnacht: can't wait for behemoth open-weights
hey1_1hey: Prob, he is prob still recovering from 4o native image gen
3ds0662: shouldnt he be ranting and dissapointed at another llm release?
3ds0662: btw where is yann lecun whats his name at?
hey1_1hey: This would be a ultra high tier troll
st.sioux: the design is very official
3ds0662: i cant wait for swe’s to be made obsolete superhuman coder then its ggs for everyone else
hey1_1hey: On the brightside Artists were done for last week
literallyvarane: How official is this llama stuff?
_cloudost: oh ok software engineers are safe for this week
3ds0662: but thats the other llama models context 10M
hey1_1hey: You had me hyped then
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
3ds0662: jk dont jnow
_cloudost: rip software engineers
3ds0662: 10M
wellmeaningalien: that all you have to say
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zoermena: Perhaps, honestly I would feel like a loser if I get to those times without ever being in a relationship.
_3sphere: Circular train 🔥
joaoluz19: Many people believed that once we reached that point, there would be an absurdly larger portion of people in these types of relationships.
hey1_1hey: Fractal is a nazi smh. Next hes going to us hes woke
fractalcomputer: It is obviously isomorphic to the cyclic group C_7.
okbut: A whole MIT pub just to say "Voice still sucks"
zoermena: I don’t use AI voice modes for that stuff, I guess it’ll be a different story once context lengths change (unless it’s accounted on the trial idk) and with FDVR.
hikukomoru: Literally fascism
hey1_1hey: Didn't know you were chill like that
joaoluz19: It's so over
_3sphere: What's the cock ring's associated addition group 😳
hey1_1hey: You're litterly schrodinger transgenderification. Turning people trans while also making fun of them being trans
joaoluz19:
fractalcomputer: Sigh. Muted for some small amount of time.
joaoluz19: You end up getting sick of AI
hikukomoru: No I have a few of these
ailoveyoom: What about cock rings
zoermena: What do you mean by diminishing returns? Relative to what.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120
joaoluz19: Btw <@505313122802728972> that MIT study showed that voice has diminishing returns, its over for waifus
hey1_1hey: 🥵
hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B125A-bNAiM
zoermena: I should take a shower.
okbut:
hey1_1hey: Feels like you just created that rn
hey1_1hey: Daddy david shapiro
hey1_1hey: Omg its my waifu <:uwu:1136266737420079195>
hikukomoru: Wdym
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
okbut: My "A" man? <:hmm:600480884755529729>
hey1_1hey: This feels a little *too* tailored
okbut: Plus my a man? what
hey1_1hey: I like cadburrys choclate, glad we could come to an understanding 🤝
hikukomoru:
fractalcomputer: And Noetherian rings.
fractalcomputer: Well I personally like ideals of rings. And I like maximal ideals.
hey1_1hey: (Note, I do not actually hate women. They are alright ig)
hey1_1hey: Was prob better before. Women always ruining everything am I right fellas
joaoluz19: Thanks for the tip! I just couldn't find the CI in my browser grok
okbut: Her whole work station is highly irradiated
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hey1_1hey: Yeah mich mach is aroace smh
hikukomoru: You can't match my freak
hikukomoru: I thought you were down bad but I guess not <@430269783112548362>
hey1_1hey: You just gotta live your life innit
himekokatagiri: is gonna kill me
himekokatagiri: I swear the wait to 2029
hikukomoru: And the smell
hey1_1hey: Mich mach the type of guy to get over stimulated when being kissed
hikukomoru: In real life
hikukomoru: I don't like being kind
ailoveyoom: Maybe only in fiction
hikukomoru: The fluids are hot
ailoveyoom: Talking about sex 👍
Sex irl 😔
hey1_1hey: Just autism
hey1_1hey: Sounsd like over stimulation to me lil bro
futurist_wizard: Masturbation to a screen isn't sex
destrucules: That's who they are. Be kind
hikukomoru: You of all people saying that
ailoveyoom: All those fluids
ailoveyoom: Sex is very eww tbh
hikukomoru: Sounds extremely cringe
hey1_1hey: Mushrooms?
hey1_1hey: I know a good few aro ace people and they are all weirdos
hikukomoru: What's the point of life if you can't sex
destrucules: Aromantic (doesn't want romance) + asexual (doesn't experience strong sexual attraction)
himekokatagiri: that ain't living
hikukomoru: Ew
hey1_1hey: Booo
himekokatagiri: no way
himekokatagiri: bro
futurist_wizard: Means you have no sexual feelings at all
valimil: aro ace is boring, can't explore 9999999 new genders in fdvr to the full potential
himekokatagiri: 🪖
himekokatagiri: I'm gelbooru's strongest soldier
mantegh5061: anyway
himekokatagiri: what
hey1_1hey: Sounds likea card game
mantegh5061: no it was discord account
hikukomoru: What's an aro ace
futurist_wizard: Are you asexual
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sweetievee__33649: you just said a bunch of contrasting things
sweetievee__33649: thats made up
spicy.lemonade: o3 full is gonna be competative
sweetievee__33649: WHAT
hikukomoru: jgudy is a former member here
A gay ex muslim somalian living in Britain
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: The more I hear about him the more I hate this guy
futurist_wizard: No discord server owner has sex
sweetievee__33649: who?
hikukomoru: Wtf
I didn't know that
So he's cheating on jgudy too
sweetievee__33649: happnes to the best of us
sweetievee__33649: i heard one time that him and the server owner got into a relationship 👉 👈
futurist_wizard: He thought those were his balls
futurist_wizard: He cut off his asscheeks as well
hikukomoru: Yeah, and he shared the pics here too
My eyes never recovered from that
sweetievee__33649: this person doesnt exist
sweetievee__33649: i am not beleving anything you guys say anymore 💔
futurist_wizard: I believe the DIY castration went severely wrong and he has perma ED
sweetievee__33649: this isnt real
aero447: Susphere,
sweetievee__33649: NO SHOT
hikukomoru: I didn't mean doing shrooms like that
I mean that he has a mushroom fetish
futurist_wizard: Yes its very sad
sweetievee__33649: you guys are just pulling my leg now
sweetievee__33649: no way
sweetievee__33649: the last part is somewhat commendable atleast...?
futurist_wizard: A lot
futurist_wizard: So hes gonna be on technology
futurist_wizard: Hes on here a lot ya know, most of the day he has to be in a wheelchair or use crutches
hikukomoru: He doesn't care
He'll come in here and start talking about doing shrooms
sweetievee__33649: has anyone told him to yanno... not to..?
hikukomoru: He shares every single thing about himself
futurist_wizard: I played the 'ill show you mine if you show me yours' game as a kid
sweetievee__33649: why do you know all this 😭
joaoluz19: https://youtu.be/1iqra1ojEvM
hikukomoru: Doesn't he have ED too
hikukomoru: If I tell what part of PT I'm from will you tell yours
futurist_wizard: He has wrinkles and those grey blue veins on his hands and hes only 12
hikukomoru: 14
retrerox: Dont worry there is hairtransplant now
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hey1_1hey: Theres like 4 here bruh
hikukomoru: Figure yourself out cuz youre confusing me
hey1_1hey: Nah big manly man innit 💪
hikukomoru: Prolly trans or smth idk bruh
.wolfnacht: girls in singularity sewer ? 😳
himekokatagiri: I'm glad the people in this discord don't have a say in how scientific progress is conducted because jesus
hey1_1hey: I dont even act gay either. I am just autistic
wellmeaningalien: spot on
wellmeaningalien: see
hey1_1hey: Bi, but sure. Lets go with that
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715
wellmeaningalien: youre gay!
.wolfnacht: u cannot rewire the biology, hence i found that cloning better humans is more ethical
hikukomoru: I thought I made it clear I'm a 50 year old bald divorced bulgarian cuckold?
hey1_1hey: No hes a 43 year old man
_3sphere: You're a girl?
hikukomoru: Mmm yea I can see how I can seem boyish
hey1_1hey: What does this say about me then. Since I mostly had girl friends <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
himekokatagiri: Not yet!!!
futurist_wizard: Not a judgement
futurist_wizard: Yeah but i mean you act boyish in your nature, there are girls who also grow up with mostly guy friends but they enjoy the attention aspect
hikukomoru: I grew up with mostly dudes as friends
futurist_wizard: Wtf am i reading
.wolfnacht: >everyone is out to get you
I can relate with that, i found that no matter whatever i do, no one would take my side ever even if i'm right hence, i'm fine being alone and learning to be on my own.
>you are in a movie set and everyone around you is actors
This world is a movie set with a script written by someone else...think of them the cabals doing rituals to moloch and baal.
Schizo bros ain't wrong they just saw behind the veil.
hikukomoru: This is my disorder
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lick-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-snail-gif-11908872455029987581
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-season-1-pizza-delivery-spongebob-pizza-delivery-gif-3878468382328492802
wellmeaningalien: im spongebob disorder
futurist_wizard: She was a sociopath, unrelated
futurist_wizard: You remind me of a girl in my college who was able to gel well with guys she was tomboyish
hikukomoru: I have some traits but I really don't like self-diagnosing
hey1_1hey: Well atleast now I know am defintly not shizoid
.wolfnacht: so us..
hey1_1hey: Then theres dellusions though like thinking everyone is out to get you and everyone is trying to kill you. Then theres the weirdly common one where you think you are in a movie set and everyone around you is actors and you are waiting for any miniute for the host to come out, the walls draw upwards, everyone starts clapping
.wolfnacht: mutual one....(u know the ones who do anything on each other)
futurist_wizard: I see mushroom is
hikukomoru: I thought it was obvious my sanity is long gone
hikukomoru:
.wolfnacht: being a real schizo isn't that bad, think of all the hallucinations either auditory or visual u get and/ + all the new friends
hey1_1hey: Hmmm
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rayanquitplayin: Like MrBeast?
rayanquitplayin: Are there any YouTubers that are really good at ads?
metaldragon01: Some ads I thought would be terrible ended up being amazing
metaldragon01: The best ads ever eventually get stale but also you could have a Rockstar ad you never tested
rayanquitplayin: I see
metaldragon01: People will just get ad blind over time if it never changes
metaldragon01: Very...
rayanquitplayin: How important is the unique creative?
metaldragon01: Lots of different types of marketing
Email marketing yes.
Banner ads no. You want unique creatives often
metaldragon01: Um....depends?
rayanquitplayin: Do you think consistency is important in mkting?
metaldragon01: Most products as long as it's not crazy unique the algo will optimize given enough time, money and creatives to work through
rayanquitplayin: What’s media buying?
metaldragon01: What matters is not blowing through budget without results
rayanquitplayin: They taught me that in college, my professor said it’s a big thing people learn in marketing
metaldragon01: Always more room for automation
st.sioux: idk
st.sioux: or is that not marketing
st.sioux: and do you think there's no space for more automation in social media management at least?
metaldragon01: No I wouldn't consider those marketing
st.sioux: Product, Price, Place (or Distribution), and Promotion
rayanquitplayin: They teach it in business schools
metaldragon01: I mostly focused on media buying
metaldragon01: What are these 4 ps? I'm not up on the recent lingo
rayanquitplayin: Do you consider the 4 P’s marketing?
metaldragon01: It's all a numbers game and there's a ton of ads you never see
metaldragon01: Did marketing for a long time
rayanquitplayin: Branding?
st.sioux: you're in marketing?
metaldragon01: Ads aren't really marketing. Small part of the job tbh
rayanquitplayin: What do you think about the fully AI Coke ad?
st.sioux: its not fully automated
metaldragon01: Nah. Marketing has been automated forever. People just don't want to spend what they have to in order to optimize ads
rayanquitplayin: I really wanna know this: do y’all think AI will automate the gambling industry?
st.sioux: its little nate's bedtime 😻
fractalcomputer: Now, I have an hour long trip of travelling on public transport ahead of me, so I'd very much like to concentrate on reading a book about number theory now.
fractalcomputer: We both agree on that. Your argument is that modern language models specifically are capable of performing systematic mathematical research. I think not. Having a good foundational knowledge only goes halfway there; the very best mathematicians are known to have derived important results on their own—mathematics is first and foremost about rigour (a metacognitive skill), a priori thinking and *vision* or heuristics.
rayanquitplayin: To me it is
fractalcomputer: Both.
fractalcomputer: Not really.
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spicy.lemonade: like the animal
spicy.lemonade: your furry personality
memlaswaif: wait
memlaswaif: what's a sona
spicy.lemonade: they only took like 10 mins for me
maintcrew: damn they need to manually approve me this shit is gay
maintcrew: thanks
spicy.lemonade: Temple
maintcrew:
spicy.lemonade: heh
spicy.lemonade: spammers
spicy.lemonade: its to stop ai
spicy.lemonade: yeah
memlaswaif: wow it's very gatekeeped
spicy.lemonade: https://discord.gg/hdu5trT2
hikukomoru: I look like that vro 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: great
alejandrozarzuelo: i could join then
maintcrew: change to evil hello kitty pfp this one has more of a lifeless/tired vibe
anathemaofmankind: Bro is the lolicon here
spicy.lemonade: and have an art drawing of them
anathemaofmankind: This is literally a child
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
spicy.lemonade: make up a whole personality
spicy.lemonade: as a furry
spicy.lemonade: you have to apply
spicy.lemonade: also to join
hikukomoru:
spicy.lemonade: youre gonna blow my cover💀
hikukomoru: I love being evil
zonchao: 😭😭😭😭
zonchao: plapplapplap
anathemaofmankind: Drop server link <@471334973379706900>
anathemaofmankind: Nah let us
alejandrozarzuelo: lets just do a bit of trolling
alejandrozarzuelo: lets not be evil
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
maintcrew: SSS rank gacha drop tweet
maintcrew: japanese twitter lootbox
memlaswaif: do it to that ai hater mod
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sweetievee__33649: komoru how much do you bench
wellmeaningalien: I'll just say that 4 years of swimming, cycling everyday 2 years and taekwondo yellow belt has made my calves a menace
sweetievee__33649: entery requirements here are insane
fractalcomputer: Yes.
futurist_wizard: Philosophical users don't eat food
sweetievee__33649: am i supposed to bench 225 or something
sweetievee__33649: i dont...?
fractalcomputer: How much do you bench?
futurist_wizard: Fractal is probably skinny
hikukomoru: Chopping trees down and wrestling bears
sweetievee__33649: is he the type of person to calculate his width in nautical miles
wellmeaningalien: https://media.tenor.com/jpNJqKdwLr0AAAAM/edgerunners.gif
technocake.: I don't know what you get up to away from the keyboard
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-office-kill-joy-meanie-thief-of-joy-gif-17139895
sweetievee__33649: yeah whats wrong with fractal <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: Fractal is a number freak
fractalcomputer: Except *maybe* Fractal?
futurist_wizard: I think anime is pedophilic nonsense
aero447: -Siev.
hikukomoru: Anime grandmothers lookin like 15 yeard old girls
aero447: Keep the fetish posting to an absolute maximum thank you.
sweetievee__33649: straight pedo defense
technocake.: everyone in here is a creeper, except maybe fractal
futurist_wizard: All anime characters look 12
aero447: Guys.
hikukomoru: Don't hot face react that pic
wellmeaningalien: Tbh I don't think if you post ur face here anything bad is gonna happens. Nobody calling the cyber opps on this nerd ass bitch server. We just too shy
sweetievee__33649: mich mach they look like 12 years old 🥀
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: My pfp used to be my face
hikukomoru: I'm more
hikukomoru: I'm not as mentally ill as Alejandro
futurist_wizard: Its not risky, its just they want to be anonymous
futurist_wizard: Risky?
wellmeaningalien: Ahahahahahhaha you just as mentally ill as Alejandro if you think you Latina
sweetievee__33649: in what way are there some creepers in here or something
wellmeaningalien: Wtf my phone is racist it hates AAVE it autocorrects yall to tall
_3sphere: Is risky
sweetievee__33649: id support this if a politician put this in their plan
hikukomoru: I'm a real latina baddie
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spicy.lemonade: egg head
zonchao: https://vxtwitter.com/pmarca/status/1902724994607570975
spicy.lemonade: semantics and what not
spicy.lemonade: and argue based on your defenition of agi
spicy.lemonade: you could make arguements
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: ngl any time between now and 2030 would be correct
sarik0497: So I think he believes it may come even sooner
sarik0497: He didn’t specific that much yet. I’ll update when I hear more.
Although I’d like to add one small correction. While he keeps his 2029 prediction, it feels more like it’s due to “nostalgic” rather than an estimated guess these days, and he even mentioned that it’s a “conservative” prediction now.
spicy.lemonade: whats his complaint about hardware
sarik0497: From what I can tell, the reason why Kurzeweil’s prediction is still at 2029 is also due to hardware not being there yet
sarik0497: Especially when you also factor in some of his other predictions like LEV and mind uploading
sarik0497: Seems like it. Although I’d say his definition of AGI is closer to ASI
zoermena: I’ll look into it Thanks! 👍
zoermena: Grats on the good thing btw
zoermena: I mean sure but I’d rather buy something that I’m certain will work guided by a doctor yk
.wolfnacht: bro's gonna reclaim all the lost pensioners, money back from india.
okbut: I haven't yet found a CI prompt that makes CGPT/etc recognize when I'm using shitty/dumb terms for a topic and respond "Are you sure you don't want --?" or "Are you sure you don't mean --?"
They either overdo it or don't do it when it's needed
brain4brain: What’s his updated AGI timeline, is he still a 2029er
sarik0497: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QkgHbVoz6N0&t=1181s&pp=2AGdCZACAQ%3D%3D
Anyone watched this yet?
sarik0497: Yeah…that’s why when I wanna discuss philosophical questions I just say it here. That way, if I say something stupid, Fractal will be sure to tell me thus.
okbut: The battle of user approval requiring pretending the user is the genius
sarik0497: Same. It’s the same with discussions. I don’t want an AI that just goes “You’re so right!” non-stop. Give me some “fight” and argue against me if it’s actually stupid.
sarik0497: Hmm. I’ll check her out. Thanks!
okbut: When I ask for a webpage in html css and js, o1 did it
Now maybe models will say "That's stupid, typescript"
okbut: This is actually what I have been wanting from AI, to tell me "that's stupid, here's why"
futurist_wizard: Whenever she makes videos on ai
futurist_wizard: That is sometimes Sabine Hossenfelder
sarik0497: We’re getting AI wanting consent before GTA 6
okbut: >Vibe coding front end
>Ask Sonnett to fix the rounded corners on images
>"No" <:GIGACHAD:1159748479535558718>
Honestly I aint even mad
sarik0497: As a smart, perfect guy once said: “Don’t hate the Cell player, hate the Cell Game.”
sarik0497: But I do find some of her videos quite intriguing. I just wish I could find a “neutral” AI youtube channel that isn’t either all out hype or all out doom
ailoveyoom: Don't hate the playa, hate the game
sarik0497: Indeed. Going all out with the clickbait <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
futurist_wizard: Jesus shes also retarded, looking at her channel
sarik0497: Her AI avatar is pretty cool, though
sarik0497: I mean, is her prediction any different from Sam and Dario’s?
futurist_wizard: Obviously a hypist?
sarik0497: So… what is everyone’s opinion of her: https://m.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy/videos
Hypist or not?
sarik0497: <:sadge:892224282363588679>
Back to cryo sleep then. Wake me when AGI is here
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memlaswaif: Well idk
memlaswaif: They r probably consious
memlaswaif: even if we give them all these rights what would they do it with it because we programmed it to do nothing else then be a slave
hikukomoru: Animals are sentient, not conscious
fractalcomputer: I'm a me-supremacist.
hikukomoru: Autistic supemacist
technocake.: Are you an anything supremacist perchance?
memlaswaif: we r making ai to be like a slave species like the ethical dilemmas starts from there
fractalcomputer: Yes.
memlaswaif: idk animals r also probably conscious and they have next to zero rights
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
nsec: looks like a plunger
trojan09205: Veo2
“A mushroom going through hormone transition treatment”
nsec: mf with 12 pack
nsec: real?
nsec:
nsec: why is her head a bepis
hey1_1hey: This feels like a scalpal level of precicion
hey1_1hey: This feels a little targetted
hey1_1hey: Holy moly
hikukomoru: Holy fuck I just found this when looking for shroomjak memes
<@439829942310666250>
hey1_1hey: Don't get me started, I have sent HUNDREDS of emails showing my dissatisfaction because of the way they are portraying us mushroom folk and yet I have been ignored.
hey1_1hey: Go ahead
nsec: how do u feel regarding the discrimination shown to ur people in the HBO series the last of us
hey1_1hey: I will not ellaborate further on the second point
hey1_1hey: Not to mention they can make some killer beats
hey1_1hey: Smth or other. They do speak through their mycelium but its compeltly uninteligble to humans
nsec: <@439829942310666250> real question sir
hikukomoru: Is that the mushroom language
hikukomoru: "kevette angell liingete ineivte"
hey1_1hey: PS6 showed this, this is what I call peak
ailoveyoom: Imagine open source Opus tho 🥺
nsec: damn mushroom guys wife is hot
hikukomoru: And why does that matter
All that matters is if they are conscious or not
Would you deny a conscious being rights?
hikukomoru:
memlaswaif: idk I feel like this could go wrong a number of ways
hey1_1hey: Purly for educatinol reasons though of course
memlaswaif: they r not the same as us though
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-19213917
nsec: believe
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zonchao: Why are you discussing such topics in <#1136230110891081821> ?
fractalcomputer: On another note, Dvorák is quite good as a composer.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/godfather-cat-petting-pet-gif-22666459
.wolfnacht: yea, i mean back to ~~neonazi bashing~~ i mean Digi artists bashing
fractalcomputer: You grace us with your presence.
hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358> Can u be the godfather to Zon and Elon's baby 🙏
zonchao: truly
hey1_1hey: This guy and Elon would be really good parents 😊
otub:
hey1_1hey: We keep criss corssing between unrelated things and singularity it seems
fractalcomputer: Why are you discussing such topics in <#1136230110891081821> ?
.wolfnacht: maybe gorl.........AHH IDK
hey1_1hey: I am NOTHING like that
hey1_1hey: You did the same thing to me bro 😭
hikukomoru: What's their/it/he/her pronourns
hey1_1hey: Did they die or smth
.wolfnacht: dat was back in 2022 😔
futurist_wizard: So you be stalking them
hey1_1hey: Whats the gender?
hey1_1hey: Hope so 🤞
zonchao: coming weeks
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> are you pregnant with Elon's baby
.wolfnacht: he's a bit famous on tiktok, idk i don't use that shithole of a app
hey1_1hey: We are talking about normal things
hey1_1hey: Oh yes hello zon
hey1_1hey: Mpreg 🥵
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
.wolfnacht: maybe he is. 😨
futurist_wizard: I've seen that person before
hey1_1hey: YOUR PREGNENT?
hikukomoru: Sorry that was me
hey1_1hey: Mf looks pregnent
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: I am extreamly bent
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: (Note, I have not been groomed before. This is a joke)
.wolfnacht: what if he's genderbent ?
hey1_1hey: You're alright ig, I've had better
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Danserk is trying to get me out of being groomed
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_cloudost: $0.35 per second
sarik0497: Bye bye, 1 billion dollars data centers.
sarik0497: welp
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jv63ew/microsoft_backing_off_building_new_1b_data_center/
st.sioux: yea theyre just manipulating the market so they can buy low after the poors had to sell
jonvi_1: Saying it was fake news, they just announced a 90-day tariff pause 🙃
jonvi_1: Do you remember how the White House demented the message about a 90-day tariff pause yesterday?
st.sioux: vertex ai
_cloudost: Where's Veo 2
_cloudost: The stream is over
ldj:
ldj: The future is now
ailoveyoom: The latency still feels noticable to me
st.sioux: zamnn
st.sioux: google just killed call centers
spicy.lemonade: Where tf is qwen
spicy.lemonade: Need sota now
spicy.lemonade: Been ages since sota
futurist_wizard: My favourite subreddit is now /artisthate
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: All its done is betray me
futurist_wizard: I hate ai now
retrerox: Me in the mirror
futurist_wizard: GayGI now
hikukomoru: Where Gemini 3.0
hikukomoru: Hype dead
retrerox: today i can get medium +3 ingredients for 5.95
retrerox: In the meantime ill get some papa johns pizza
retrerox: What if AGI was just our parents
futurist_wizard: Facts
hikukomoru: Yawnnnn
Where AGI
wellmeaningalien: gonna blast kercheow
futurist_wizard: STOP THE LIVESTREAM
_cloudost: Soon all antis will become permanently asleep. AGI IS HERE AND WHOEVER OPPOSES AI WILL FACE CONSEQUENCES
-# This user is under surveillance by the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigaton). Do not contact this user. They are the subject of a criminal case under 18 U.S.C code 1203 effective April 9, 2025. [Learn More](<https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-11-hostage-taking-18-usc-1203>)
st.sioux: brainrot zoomer
futurist_wizard: I don't like it
futurist_wizard: This livestream is boring
wellmeaningalien: love that ai is getting better and cheaper so now you have an oracle to ask dumb shit to basically
wellmeaningalien: ❌
hikukomoru: >using blender on a laptop
Does he know
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trojan09205:
precariousworlds.: how has ur day been trojan
precariousworlds.: indeed brother
trojan09205: The goated of the goats
precariousworlds.: one of the best
precariousworlds.: goated thursday
trojan09205: Fuck yah
precariousworlds.: 💪💪💪
trojan09205: Lfg!!!
precariousworlds.: This day was a good day
trojan09205: This morning was a good morning
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-year-date-number-date-year-2020s-gif-2533552122884439977
zoermena: Very interesting clip
futurist_wizard: Definitely praying it's sometime in the future it can cure GERD
futurist_wizard: Man, when is AI gonna get it's act together and start curing shit
aero447: And Optimus Gen 3!
aero447: Starship going to the moon.
zonchao: soon
zonchao: true
aero447: We careabout a new FSD update.
aero447: Elon needs to realize we don't care if he's a good gamer.
aero447: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
aero447: Dude regularly lies about playing video games.
zonchao: <:lmao:1058916507092013077> he thinks the noos is real
zonchao: <a:explaining:1238804078172180480>
aero447: Guess the world's smartest guy can't use the net.
aero447: https://www.factcheck.org/2025/04/musks-unsupported-claim-to-have-unveiled-massive-illegal-voting-by-noncitizens/
https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/mar/12/elon-musk-social-security-fraud-how-waste-fraud/
https://apnews.com/article/fema-migrants-nyc-funding-luxury-hotels-doge-c7d2c0b029bc653293a478b4bf5d59b1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/19/musk-social-security-fraud-debunked/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-pokeclicker-gif-7294241466965530806
realelonmuskx: must repopulate
zonchao: i dont think there is a huge difference between them
zonchao: <:CarThumbsUp_123:1328456747941232772>
3ds0662: it should be knowledge seeking not truth seeking
3ds0662: thats why it feel's jarring when elon says he wants to make the most truth seeking ai? what truth is he defining his own? and how does that help the ai grow in intelligence or solve the problem at hand?
3ds0662: *ideas, and thoughts both contain truth, they both contain error*
~but to get to my destination its enough if I remove errors to the extent that they are relevant to the problem that I want to solve
3ds0662: but yeah I agree more with what he's saying **"we seek knowledge but not truth and we can find knowledge in the sense that we can correct existing knowledge by removing errors thats what the growth of knowledge always is" **
3ds0662: its missing context though cause it was built over the earlier parts of the pod
3ds0662: on now why I disagree with the whole truth seeking thing
3ds0662: timestamped it
3ds0662: https://youtu.be/rpP9sqbQzjs?t=4150
sarik0497:
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spicy.lemonade: "the girls are gonna love this"
brain4brain: In their defense, they were given IP right
anathemaofmankind: Imagine if studio ghibli used AI in their project
That would be the funniest shit ever
spicy.lemonade: is it stolen?
spicy.lemonade: their style looks very similar
spicy.lemonade: these are 2 different comic book artists
anathemaofmankind: That's why they became artists instead of programmers <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: how else do they devlop art styles
spicy.lemonade: AI is just beter human artists lol. technically human artists steal art
_cloudost: Antis don't take a moment to think
anathemaofmankind: Do antis even understand that
.histic: but yeah, they falled for it.
.histic: can't get sued for artistic style.
spicy.lemonade: and obviously it can
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: because thats what aider polyglot tests
spicy.lemonade: no im sayong that the programmers saying that "ai cant translate code from one language to another" is dumb
_cloudost: Anti AI people are sharing this without checking if it's a legit letter or not, just saw som anti posting it in another server
anathemaofmankind: What a creative naming scheme
.histic:
.histic: i mean DeeperSearch
anathemaofmankind: How well does it do on the benchmark
mihrcelium: (I didn't know it was called "DeeperResearch." <:sigh:1126597462115758110> )
spicy.lemonade: 🤦♂️
spicy.lemonade: this is literally aider polyglot benchmark
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: Mutahar said he uses Grok's DeeperResearch on the daily.. interesting.
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/R51lAC_n_lw
anathemaofmankind: I just want the basilisk to come alive and reduce these ppl to amorphous blobs
anathemaofmankind: Oh my god I can't man
spicy.lemonade: annoying
spicy.lemonade: every normie thinks this
spicy.lemonade: its not a filter
spicy.lemonade: 💀
anathemaofmankind: That's so dumb
spicy.lemonade: bro he thinks all it does is filter
.histic: it is better than what artist can create therefore it should be illegal.
that's what i'm hearing.
anathemaofmankind: He's beefing with hasan right now
.histic: but he either makes great takes or the most low IQ dumb takes
anathemaofmankind: I hope mutahar gets into more drama and gets his channel removed
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czdct: yea he's basically built like a silver back gorilla...
memlaswaif: <@312370916820779040> should we listen to this guy
hey1_1hey: Its not just common knowledge that everyone is born with
hey1_1hey: How do you know about this though is my question...
hey1_1hey: If only he wasn't a smurf
czdct: yeah he has an amazing physique
alejandrozarzuelo: its just a fact of the smurf species
alejandrozarzuelo: its not disturbing or anything
alejandrozarzuelo: ruining your childhood? dude thats how thousands of insect species work
hey1_1hey: Also he hits calfs and glutes 6x a week which is crazy
czdct: thank you for ruining my childhood at 3AM in the morning
hey1_1hey: I am curios
hey1_1hey: I do
hey1_1hey: Oh ok its a naked smurf
Oh ok its looking out at d-day
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, the male smurfs are all just the reproductive organs of smurphette, they live in a hive
czdct: I don't even want to know what the prompt was tbh
czdct: it's the filth that just keeps rotting away
hey1_1hey: The more you look into the worse it gets
czdct: but at what cost?
czdct: we got better AI image generations
czdct:
hey1_1hey: Maybe, we wont know for the foreseeable future either though because its unlikely they will open source their... papers? Can you do that? You know what I mean though.
ailoveyoom: I mean who knows, maybe other labs have been doing the same research too but we just don't know cause they never publish it
hey1_1hey: Although I have actually read half of the abstract and even the full summary one time so yanno. Its a pretty big deal 😎
hey1_1hey: So baseiclly an expert then
ailoveyoom: (I literally only read the titles and abstract)
ailoveyoom: They've released some pretty banger papers tho
sweetievee__33649: idk i wouldnt count it out im hoprful atleast
hey1_1hey: I mean I have a total of 0 hope for Llama 4 anyway but oh well
hey1_1hey: No shot
professorheaven: Llama con is on April 29th so it makes sense that they’ll release it then
fractalcomputer: The idea that Marcus reads r/singularity disturbs me.
fractalcomputer: https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/1906472200779207043?t=xU_jcrXRpoAtU3PyHQriZg&s=19
wolf3404: Is this real
aero447: Wheel*
aero447: Wrong.
spicy.lemonade: interesting times ahead
spicy.lemonade: with rumors
spicy.lemonade: new model name pops up
spicy.lemonade: its that time
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zonchao: ah well he didn't leave the gc
hikukomoru: He got cancelled
hikukomoru: The racism allegations got to him
hikukomoru: Yeah he left
memlaswaif: <@590577270926868480> it's ure turn next
zonchao: my twin 😭
zonchao: did he leave
zonchao: wait what
memlaswaif: oh wow danserk is dead
st.sioux: idk i just said thats what i remember
st.sioux: you can look up his chat messages or something idk
hikukomoru: I don’t remember him ever being actually racist
hikukomoru: Yeah jgudy is a gay British somalian
st.sioux: it ends with ai wiping humans by 2030
st.sioux: i just remember jgudy sent a gif of the twin towers once or some shit
st.sioux: danserk idk about jgudy
zonchao: <a:wave:1145412732913459281>
hikukomoru: Danserk or jgudy?
st.sioux: theyre just edgy
clevermoniker: I haven't finished reading it but i assume it ends with all of us dead, so i don't know why you think that is cool
brain4brain: Super scuff
brain4brain: This is like the computer ping pong
wellmeaningalien: i think we know with google doom that there's no special trick beyond just pure memorization
st.sioux: i would test it more but its super hard to control, arrow key movement and low fps
brain4brain: It seems to remember the field in the middle but I’m not sure if it’s real or some clever trick that only work for this map
brain4brain: Anyone wanna play Minecraft?
st.sioux: yea i think so
wellmeaningalien: i think u can use ur spatial intelligence to tell
brain4brain: Does it have spatial memory I can’t test it
brain4brain: It’s running on your own browser
wellmeaningalien: is that lik a fully ai generated game a la google doom
wellmeaningalien: what is that lol
st.sioux: i got like 3 fps
st.sioux:
brain4brain: AI generated videogame, only good feature of it
brain4brain: https://x.com/hesamation/status/1908631442902376448?s=61
inferno0879: lol
st.sioux: 🤢 🤮
st.sioux: this screams low test to me bro
wellmeaningalien: its fine
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hey1_1hey: addressing your friends by last time is psychotic
hikukomoru: Can I call you berry 💖
alejandrozarzuelo: This is a fennec
alejandrozarzuelo: Zarzu is an abbreviation of Zarzuelo, my surname, that's what my friends call me
It means blackberry
technocake.: doesn't it mean fox in spanish?
hey1_1hey: The singulitards got him
alejandrozarzuelo: OK you definitely don't know Spanish
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
hey1_1hey: 💀
technocake.: zorra
hikukomoru: I miss the old Alejandro
hikukomoru: You haven't been the same ever since you returned from that orgy...
futurist_wizard: Its obvious
oooooooooog: GET THAT ARNOLD THE ARDVARK PFP AWAY FR I CANT TAKE IT
alejandrozarzuelo: What
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
hey1_1hey: He always was
oooooooooog: ALEJANDRO WHY DID YOU BECOME WOKE
futurist_wizard: Okay, is your pfp, not you but the pfp a top or bottom, pick one
hey1_1hey: That fox really giving me "I kiss the homies good night but it's ok because it's not that but at night thinks about why they are a horrible person" vibes
alejandrozarzuelo: You know that's the problem with my new pfp?
It isn't elitist enough
hikukomoru: Gay is a compliment
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't see it
hey1_1hey: Actually a peak comment to make
hey1_1hey: You do call everything gay
futurist_wizard: Just look at it
hey1_1hey: No no he's got a point
futurist_wizard: Come on, that fox is definitely getting rammed regularly
hikukomoru: Alejandro I don't call everything gay
Just you 💖
.histic: my goodness
futurist_wizard: Minecraft in 2014
jonvi_1: Devs show is cool but idk if there are that many cool visuals to prompt with
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude you call everything gay, whats gay about that lmao
zoermena: Yes I’m wired to data center
hey1_1hey: Are teams are the companies and the players are the ceos
technocake.: it is
hikukomoru: It looks like an annoying gay fox saying "ermmm ackshually"
technocake.: oh wow you remembered
hey1_1hey: It is tho
zoermena: <@200624453795708928> Once said the singularity is sports for autists IIRC
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drewsni: So he’s just retarded
drewsni: Oh
hey1_1hey: If I remember correctly it was on a video about AI ads and how they are becoming more prevalent
drewsni: I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and maybe he means AI art can’t be copyrighted?
hey1_1hey: Joking*
hey1_1hey: I hope hes chocking for this sake 🙏
hey1_1hey: This guy is so cooked its unbelievable
st.sioux: going b2c with androids specially when the market is so small and underdeveloped is stupidly risky
st.sioux: doubt it
wellmeaningalien: cool
joaoluz19: A study from MIT
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> Lets goooo this was exactly what I was waiting for
alejandrozarzuelo: Because the other companies aren't selling to the average person
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not the best Android, but it will be the best CONSUMER Android
alejandrozarzuelo: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2025/03/18/best-in-world-humanoid-robot-to-launch-in-june--in-europe/
wellmeaningalien: eurocope
st.sioux: just a rover
wellmeaningalien: that said I'd still be skeptical of any Twitter leaker
st.sioux: do you have any link to their stuff? i googled it and cant find anything
wellmeaningalien: that's like asking why is 70% on SWE BENCH impressive we gotta see the other benchmarks first.
alejandrozarzuelo: or so it seems
alejandrozarzuelo: it will be released in june
alejandrozarzuelo: not just for labs
alejandrozarzuelo: apparently they will launch the most advanced consumer-grade android that there is
alejandrozarzuelo: its a european android company
alejandrozarzuelo: at this rate the US will be the third superpower when it comes to robotics
alejandrozarzuelo: Have yall talkied about Nerva?
sarik0497: Can someone smarter than me explain what’s with the hype about a high ARC-AGI score?
It’s cool and all, don’t get me wrong, but unless it can perform just as well or fairly close to that for all new tests, then it just seems like wanting to brag.
futurist_wizard: Why are you posting bullshit accounts
metaldragon01: Very unlikely
zonchao:
zonchao: but probably
zonchao: i havent tested it yet
_cloudost: is it less restrictive than Gemini
_cloudost: deeply R2
_cloudost: thats higher than o3 full
_cloudost: R2
_cloudost: deepseek
_cloudost: https://x.com/SmokeAwayyy/status/1903115511803809895
futurist_wizard: terminal twink death
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alejandrozarzuelo: have you seen my hair?
a1c4p0ne: I wouldn’t mind
wellmeaningalien: me neither lmao im not sure theres even anything in the image to make me think its ai
zoermena: No
technocake.: honestly no
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Don't even try unless you want to end up with your cock and balls missing
wellmeaningalien: would u guys ever guess this is ai generated top to bottom
alejandrozarzuelo: (also my hair is a BIT longer)
alejandrozarzuelo: haha
alejandrozarzuelo: this is literally the opposite of my style
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/omori-omori-omori-omori-red-omori-chara-omori-kill-gif-15233210225542004583
hikukomoru: You're being a freaky ass dude
Only MichMach can be freaky like that
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/you-look-lonely-i-can-fix-that-bladerunner2049-gif-27127278
oooooooooog: yes it can
futurist_wizard: And all the dried blood stains and the vomit on the walls, the torn rusted wallpaper? It can't fix all of it
alejandrozarzuelo: not croptops
alejandrozarzuelo: oh come on, you know I wear preppy semi-formal sweaters
hikukomoru: This pic instinctively made me puke
zoermena: Lmfao
wellmeaningalien: hive vs gpt 4o
mihrcelium: 💀💀💀
a1c4p0ne: Why
hikukomoru: You should get castrated
oooooooooog: just ask GPT to make it an alive pig
futurist_wizard: I can't, the dead pig in the corner of the room is too embarrassing
a1c4p0ne: Post it
futurist_wizard: I had a shirtless pic of myself i Ghibli'd, my room is fucked in it though so I'd never post
a1c4p0ne: You should get bangs
hikukomoru: No I don't have bangs
zoermena: Alejandro soft core?
futurist_wizard: Don't perv on komoru
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731
a1c4p0ne: Just curious
hikukomoru: Why are you asking it horny boy
a1c4p0ne: <@505313122802728972> do you have bangs
hikukomoru: That's jsut sad
hikukomoru: Don't sunglasses react your own message
alejandrozarzuelo: but yeah im a pretty hardcore globalist cosmopolitan
alejandrozarzuelo: its too personal
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spicy.lemonade: oh no
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: with oais
spicy.lemonade: this is gonna be good in combination
spicy.lemonade: https://x.com/dreamingtulpa/status/1904821398759235988
jonvi_1: (I did prompt it with images for those two though but I reckon you could prompt something similar without image input too)
jonvi_1: Yeah it's like, obviously practical now which is crazy
zoermena: Cool
spicy.lemonade: its crazy
ldj: Still true
jonvi_1: what
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Lol
jonvi_1:
jonvi_1:
spicy.lemonade: remastered
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Bro, it's from California Gurls 💀
gamerbath: they seem very similar to me
trent_k: Apparently similar enough that OAI's team decided to pull the voice
trent_k: I've heard the comparisons and I think especially given the context it's pretty similar
ldj: True
joaoluz19: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-7ZB2s9Cs
joaoluz19: It doesn't look similar that's the point
trent_k: Could it have all been a total coincidence? Sure. But cmon, they did it on purpose
trent_k: They asked her to do the voice, she said no, Altman tweeted something like "we're building Her" and then they demo a voice that sounds very similar to hers
trent_k: I think this is a bit of an unfair representation of what happened
joaoluz19: Cinema
joaoluz19:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: me rn
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849
spicy.lemonade: stop💀
sarik0497: Did you say “thank you”, though?
spicy.lemonade: holding in laughter
spicy.lemonade: in work meeting rn
spicy.lemonade:
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade:
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zoermena: I mean I´m used to my height it´s a non issue now
hikukomoru: There are others here
Not gonna tell you who they are
technocake.: someone post the holy sama
wellmeaningalien: we are all part of the singularity cult after all
wellmeaningalien: we are terminally online to be here
hey1_1hey: I wouldnt either dw
oooooooooog: don't republicans have gay orgies sometimes tho...??? i feel like that counts right?
zoermena: I know looksmax is a stupid word that´s why I put it on quotes but I want to look better for myself lol
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Also I'm not gonna respect your new pronouns
hey1_1hey: You are confused as I am bro 😭
hikukomoru: Please stop confusing me
hey1_1hey: I get to confuse people mallicously now
hikukomoru: I am terminally online yes
_wwwwww: like a record
hey1_1hey: her* <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Bro is still confused about his gender 🙏
zoermena: Wdym, this is mostly motivated by myslef wanting to look a little better, I don´t think that I´m ugly I´ve recieved few compliments but I dislike my acne, I also want to workout for health reasons and stuff
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: prob not
hey1_1hey: Oh then no
futurist_wizard: you must be really terminal to hang out in these spaces
hikukomoru: cis = not trans
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I am cis (I dont remember what it means)
st.sioux: you dont get any ass man you're a republican
hikukomoru: It's that word that's banned on x
hikukomoru: cis
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: based 4o
oooooooooog: idk
oooooooooog: when u hammer ur bones
_wwwwww: cissoid?
wellmeaningalien: idk wtf this convo is about but cool image
hikukomoru: Bone hammer??
.histic: that's a lot of meat..
hey1_1hey: They never exited to begin wtih
oooooooooog: makeup and bone hammer
hikukomoru: I am not trans
I am a cissoid
st.sioux: ??????
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hey1_1hey: I think thats just propogandad I just made up tho
hey1_1hey: You people are monsters
hey1_1hey: I've been called a fucking retarded idiot 👉 👈
hikukomoru: There are no slurs for feminine lesbians
Because we are adorable and awesome and amazing and cute
zoermena: Goated movie btw
zoermena: I’ve been called a hobbit
hey1_1hey: This was a long time ago. I dont think they even know what it meant
hikukomoru: If someone called you a lesbian then I can already imagine what you might look like
hey1_1hey: These darn wokies
hikukomoru: I can say taht too
hikukomoru: It's like retard
hey1_1hey: Can't even slurplay in general
hikukomoru: But I can say it
fractalcomputer: No use of slurs either.
.wolfnacht: [REDACTED]
futurist_wizard: Thats like a masculine lesbian
hikukomoru: What
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I remember being called that once and not knowing what it meant
fractalcomputer: Would you please refrain from posting nazi imagery?
futurist_wizard: You wouldn't be that
hikukomoru: Dyke
drewsni: Pls no Nazi imagery in general chat lol
hey1_1hey: I think being lesbian is enough
futurist_wizard: What are lesbian slurs
.wolfnacht: *dies*
hey1_1hey: You can say it
hey1_1hey: You're litterly lesbian
hey1_1hey: The wildest conversation starter someone opned up with to me was "By any chance, are you autistic. Not to be mean or anything but you look it"
futurist_wizard: Go ahead
playstation.6: adorable
futurist_wizard: And you're meant to be a pussy specialist
hikukomoru: I use queer because I don't want to call him the f word
futurist_wizard: I get more pussy than you
.wolfnacht: HOLYYYYY
hey1_1hey: What a great conversation starer
zoermena:
hikukomoru: Queer boy
futurist_wizard: Its an image of me actually
hikukomoru:
playstation.6: brown hair wtf
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czdct: or they drug her so that she doesn't remember
czdct: maybe she got a traumatic experience birthing it
alejandrozarzuelo: there are more than one smurf colony in the world, its biologically impossible for that to be the only one
_3sphere: The only other child smurfs are from a time machine accident and don't tell us much
hey1_1hey: Maybe I just dont know enough smurf lore but I think that thinking about the smurf productive hierarchy is really weird
_3sphere: Where did baby smurf come from, smurfette didn't know him at first
hey1_1hey: I am calling complete bull shit
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah thats not possible
alejandrozarzuelo: it is, in fact, a very normal thing to think
czdct: I just assumed they were all cousins
hey1_1hey: No 😭
hey1_1hey: Its just not a normal thing to think about
alejandrozarzuelo: they literally have one single female and you never ever thought about how their biology works??
alejandrozarzuelo: dude, how can you not
czdct: AI could never copy this
czdct: arguing about the biological structure and reproductive mechanism of smurfs 💀
hey1_1hey: Thats not the problem bro 😭
hey1_1hey: I dont think a single person has thought about the smurf reproductivity hierarchy
alejandrozarzuelo: dont you learn biology in highschool?
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
alejandrozarzuelo: dude, everyone thought of that the moment they thought for a second about the smurfd
hey1_1hey: Thats not my issue. My issue is that why were you thinking about it in that way 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: just because they are intelligent doesnt change their basic reproductive structure
hey1_1hey: I for one didn't know that. Not sure if anyone else was thinking about that but hey ho
alejandrozarzuelo: its pretty obvious a colony species
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, thats basic non-vertebrate biology 101
hey1_1hey: We all know that obv
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah yanno... Common information
alejandrozarzuelo: the smurfs are a colony species with a female reproductive hierarchy
since there is a massive gender imbalance in the species can only suggest that smurfette can produce males without fertilization, and they serve as workers
we see that since smurfette doesnt have a "trade" she specializes on, she is just the female, while each of the males has its own task inside the colony, builder, farmer, intellectual...
whenever the smurf colony needs a new female, smurfette gets impregnated by one or more of the male smurfs to build a semen reserve from which female smurfs will hatch
Usually the males die afterwards but in the smurf species we see very longeve individuals so it is likely that this is not the case in this species
this is how all colony species work
czdct: ai image generators might go mainstream...
czdct: mike tyson is wildin
czdct: https://x.com/MikeTyson/status/1905029341752467881
metaldragon01: Likely in next 2 weeks. Maybe this week.
metaldragon01: Qwen 3 is coming pretty soon
czdct: I know...
ailoveyoom: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1356003548751728760
czdct: it's not something I should be proud of
hey1_1hey: Putting LLMs to shame
hey1_1hey: Thats some crazy pattern recognition
hey1_1hey: Omg your right
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hikukomoru: Much much cheaper lol
spicy.lemonade: comparing apples to oranges
benata: way cheaper
darkstar0818: gemini 2.5 flash wants you to hold its beer.
zoermena: Is 2.5 cheaper?
hikukomoru: Yeah
All that and not even better than 2.5
spicy.lemonade: not a base model
benata: still doesn't beat gemini 2.5 pro
zoermena: This is incredibly good
hey1_1hey: 40% was it or am I hallucinating that
spicy.lemonade: its faster too
hey1_1hey: Yep
spicy.lemonade: its been like 1 week
spicy.lemonade: he actually said weeks til o3 and o4mini
spicy.lemonade: sam has been more accurate
spicy.lemonade: no
zoermena: Is it cheaper than 4o?
steven_the_frog: Idk as a developer this seems like a good improvement. Better faster cheaper
hikukomoru: 1 week in Sama time = 1 year
hey1_1hey: prob thursday
hey1_1hey: This week
hikukomoru: Cool cool
When o3 and o4
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: It was no 4o iamge gen
hey1_1hey: It was just a step in the right direction
spicy.lemonade: its 4.1
spicy.lemonade: this isnt o3 or o4
hey1_1hey: Eh
spicy.lemonade: what did you guys expect
darkstar0818: are we so back?
hey1_1hey: Dont threaten me with a good time
hikukomoru: Lmao that was so disappointing
literallyvarane: 4.5 a shit product confirmed lolololol
zonchao: yes
darkstar0818: is it over?
hikukomoru: Christ I could break you in half like a toothpick
ailoveyoom: Is that it bruh
literallyvarane: How you guys voting no lololol
zonchao: 4.5 is officially a dud
benata: What the fuck did they even announce?
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spicy.lemonade: If I was taller it’s over for all of you 😭 🙏
spicy.lemonade: I only wear baggy clothes is why I do look skinny. And I look homeless with my average cs major fit
spicy.lemonade: Mogged
spicy.lemonade:
czdct: idk I feel like I'm getting old...
czdct: or w rizz
czdct: I had my little niece explain to me what skibidi toilet means a couple of weeks ago
czdct: I feel ya
.wolfnacht: AHH, my "meme knowledge" is a bit less
czdct: heck most of the time I wouldn't even have guessed it was AI...
czdct: sora can do pepe memes perfectly too, I see 0 flaws
czdct: this
czdct: https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nervous-sweating-concerned-monkas-gif-15154684
czdct: you guys have noticed any flaws?
czdct: can't even image how much more you could improve this image generator
.wolfnacht: waht's monka ?
czdct: monka
.wolfnacht: there's lot more that they are hiding than they are showing rn.
czdct: because my assumption was that we would have this level somewhere in 2026-2028
czdct: did you expect image generators to improve this fast though?
czdct: based
maintcrew: retards are yes but we dont listen to them
czdct: or is it the typical AI = bad hate you see all the time
czdct: people are making a fuss about this?
czdct: ooohhh
czdct: yeah elon couldn't care less lol
maintcrew: i asked because "copyrighted" styles have been trending on twitter
czdct: I've never been this impressed by AI in my life
maintcrew: i dont think they care + its very based
czdct: what the...
czdct: I know
maintcrew: do you use twitter
czdct: this is absolutely insane
czdct: I think this is the first time in my life that I think that some sort of government oversight should be needed
maintcrew: bros about 10 epochs too late on this
czdct:
czdct: but I just saw the new sora image generator
czdct: okay I might be slow
spicy.lemonade: I only do this for the girls
maintcrew: nobody can know or have a detailed plan of what will happen for a solid timeline
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joaoluz19: I also think Google has more incentive to censor than OpenAI.
hikukomoru: The first ones most likely to implement it are Google imo
But it'll be censored to hell and back as you can expect
joaoluz19: It's over
hikukomoru: If you're still talking about voice, then I doubt we're going to get anything big out of OAI
Remember, a year ago they had Sky and they still let themselves get surpassed by a small company no one had heard of before
joaoluz19: I'm not familiar with transformers yet, but they've already published it anyway. For billion/trillion dollar companies, this should be trivial to implement.
precariousworlds.: maybe they kidnapped voice actors and have locked them in a cellar to read llm text all day
hikukomoru: Sesame has some magic sauce bro
How did they do it
joaoluz19: I hope so
hikukomoru:
metaldragon01: We are going to see some really cool products
joaoluz19: Maybe it was a scale issue, neither Grok nor Google can replicate voice at the level of Sesame
metaldragon01: You can customize the voices a bit
hikukomoru: If they were actually serious they would give us Sky back
metaldragon01: Makes voice much more accessible
metaldragon01: I'm excited about the product
joaoluz19: I'm not excited about the model, but rather that they're taking voice seriously again.
hikukomoru: I'm sorry but this sucks
joaoluz19: LETS F GOOOOO
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> OpenAI new TTS model
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jfwp9m/yann_is_still_a_doubter/
wolf3404: Now official
hikukomoru: That gay ass twink from berserk?
maintcrew: doesnt sound healthy :((
oooooooooog: you are likke griffith
hikukomoru: My mood changes every minute or so but sure, sounds like a good idea
mihrcelium: https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379
precariousworlds.: Or maybe we're the ones doing the cooking
mihrcelium: We're cooked in a few years. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
mihrcelium: Aye. First time I heard a sesame demo between a human and the model I couldn't tell which was which for a few minutes.
precariousworlds.: It was ridiculously natural
oooooooooog: i don't get sesame hype
precariousworlds.: Why hasn't sesame been hooked up to a general purpose LLM yet?
ailoveyoom: Luckily I like being heard 😈
mihrcelium: Unrelatedly, those calls are logged, Mich.
mihrcelium: Everything feels dull now compared to Sesame. <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
precariousworlds.: But stargate has been going for like 4 weeks
ailoveyoom: So the voice is still shit?
maintcrew: long happened
the stargate team looks like imploding too
sarik0497: GPT5 shall tell. GPT4.5 was also fairly disappointing
precariousworlds.: is OpenAI falling off?
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hey1_1hey: Good point
maintcrew: no thats american
hey1_1hey: Just a guess
hey1_1hey: Burger?
maintcrew: whats the slur for bulgarians
maintcrew: haha make me uhhh...... bulgarian .... uhhh..m
hey1_1hey: This mf looks like he is gonna tell me off
hey1_1hey: I am an easily groomable, 18 year old petite fem presenting enity. Who wouldn't want to give me money after all of that
hikukomoru: Stop with the racist jokes
hey1_1hey: There needs to be more paypigs in this world. I want to generate funny images with silly little 4o image gen
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Asian
hey1_1hey: I wish
hikukomoru: "Everyone has native image gen rut me"
hey1_1hey: Straight made you blad
maintcrew: he got a paypig 💔
.histic: it hallucinated the time lol
hikukomoru: What the fuck is that pfp 💔
futurist_wizard: Huh
futurist_wizard:
.histic:
hikukomoru: Atleast pfp is somewhat right
hikukomoru: "Explicit caption" 💔
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994
.histic: i wanted it to use something like this on the bottom right, but it didn't understand.
hey1_1hey: It tried its best
hey1_1hey: "Explicit caption"
hey1_1hey: 😭
.histic: so scuffed
hey1_1hey: Says the person without new image gen 🫵 😢
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> This looks a million times better than your Dalle slop
futurist_wizard: The duality of man
futurist_wizard:
.histic: consistency*
.histic: the consisteny with reference images is pretty mid tbh
hey1_1hey: Say that again?
hey1_1hey:
hikukomoru: No way you have native image gen
hey1_1hey: Unless its straight up lying to me, yes
hey1_1hey: Its a self-portrait of you
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jonvi_1: Anyone without access got a prompt they want me to run? Idk how widespread rollout is yet
hey1_1hey: I wonder what Zon will think with all this talk about OAI image gen
maintcrew: iirc they said its a new refreshed model in the blog
literallyvarane: So... is 2.5 just the COT of 2.0 Pro? Because 2.0 Pro no longer exist in AIStudio
hikukomoru: Damn Alejandro I didn't know you were a reactionary
I thought you were chill
jonvi_1: I was trying to see if it would go existentialist on me but the result was user centric
technocake.: the voice is a demon and it will lead you astray
hey1_1hey: I've only watched half of it to be fair (the balls)
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm bi so I can't say
jonvi_1: is it not me
hey1_1hey: Your brain isn't lying to you, you are lying to yourself (Im 14 and this is deep)
jonvi_1: about what?! 😟
maintcrew: hell nahhh they are developing polycules now
every schizo field is converging upon and walking the same path as effective altruism
hikukomoru: I never watched Dragons Balls
hey1_1hey: Sadly not to sure
technocake.: your brain is lying to you
drewsni: is there a specific prompt to make the yugiyo or pokemon cards
alejandrozarzuelo: DEGENERACY THAT'S WHAT IT IS
hey1_1hey: I thought it would be like "Someone who is sexually attracted to hedges"
jonvi_1:
hey1_1hey: Oh well thats boring
hey1_1hey:
hikukomoru: > A polycule is three or more people who are connected romantically and/or sexually
hey1_1hey: Bit late
drewsni: lol
futurist_wizard: Yes
technocake.: there needs to be an nsfw mirror server
hey1_1hey: Go do something productive alright?
thedon7075: 4o has the new image gen?
hey1_1hey: Ok henrey from fiance
maintcrew: this is what the humans in avatar wanted to get
maintcrew: https://tenor.com/view/obamium-gif-8037868343314571204
alejandrozarzuelo: No I mean, that there is nothing particularly different
Not thsy it is appealing to you
hey1_1hey: I gotta add it to my brain dictonary
hikukomoru: Wait what does voting for Obama have to do with being gay
hey1_1hey: Whats polycule...
drewsni:
technocake.: fastest kink satisfaction meta
hey1_1hey: I have never watched dragon ball as you can tell
maintcrew: L
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spicy.lemonade: No full grabs
spicy.lemonade: Just make more sensitive
spicy.lemonade: Doesn’t sound too hard
gamerbath: cats a liquid, so it would be difficult to hurt one
gamerbath: why are there so many options? are all these options beyond 2027 for the pessimists?
.coldcall: Requires ASI.
.coldcall: Superhuman task.
gamerbath: lol that's extremely specific
ldj:
ldj: Speaking of which, I should make a poll for the cat thing
ldj: HLSI <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: But trying to argue about what is the more proper definition is pretty fruitless imo.
which is why I just have my own definition with its own name seperate from AGI, and whenever people ask me for my timelines I just give them my timelines for my specific definition and terminology.
ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: based definition tbh
ldj: some peoples threshhold is when it can pick up a cat on the first try
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
literallyvarane: Someone could define AGI as being capable of winning on a rainy day in Stoke.
ldj: if you didn't think yours was better, then ofcourse you wouldn't subscribe to that definition in the first place
ldj: just like you'd probably say yours is better
ldj: and he'd probably say his is better
ldj: yes he'd probably agree
literallyvarane: Some definitions are better than others.
ldj: simply working on different definitions
ldj: > that's clearly AGI
he could also say though "if it doesn't have a physical body, then that's clearly not AGI lol"
literallyvarane: Exactly.
_3sphere: It may not have a motor control system but it should be able to guide someone through fixing a car with a good video feed
literallyvarane: If you could literally call big G God on your phone and get him to answer any question 100% honestly, that's clearly AGI lololol.
literallyvarane: I think any AGI defintion that includes robotics or manual labor actually misunderstands the concept of what a general intelligence is.
ldj: But yea my definition personally isn’t about adoption or anything like that, simply about potential it has
ldj: Depends what your definition of AGI is though <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
if that’s his definition then that’s his definition <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
You might not consider it important for your definition while he maybe does
literallyvarane: I just think the core claim spicy made is wrong.
If you have AGI in a datacenter, and it's *perfectly capable* of designing robots, the relevant software etc, but is never tasked to do so, you still have AGI. The *actual need to create that robot/software* isn't important.
ldj: But you specifically replied to those messages after I clarified what I personally mean, so I don’t see the point in treating it as if we’re talking about spicys particular statement rn
ldj: Yea, but that’s why I clarified to you what I myself mean, and what would prob be the more generous interpretation of what others like spicy mean too.
ldj: But I would say in this case the steam engine example is actually even worse, since it doesn’t even fit the description that was laid out earlier about being able to perform tele-operation
ldj: Using steam engines to disprove the notion of physical or robotic/physical intelligence is like pointing at a calculator and saying it doesn’t have intelligence, and therefore mathematics can’t be used as a measure of intelligence, or pointing to an algorithmic bug identification software, and trying to use that as proof of coding abilities not being related to intelligence
literallyvarane: But again, the claim that Spicy made was that AGI should be able to replace all human work, or by definition it's not AGI.
You can *have* AGI, and still not have the means to replace all human work because the robots don't physically exist.
ldj:
ldj: As I said earlier
ldj: Whether the software itself is physical or not is a fruitless philosophical rabbit hole about electrons and transistors, we don’t need to go down that, I’m sure you can understand that I’m talking about software that is capable of manipulating the physical world
ldj: In this case it is related to physical operations, thus is called robotic software intelligence
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mantegh5061: What i'm more interested in is longevity escape velocity
mantegh5061: I will be alive in 30 years
sieventer: In the min 2:37, one of those says that REPLACEMENT of REMOTE WORKERS in 2045
playstation.6: I need to get my vision checked fr
playstation.6: ohh lol
sieventer: xD
sieventer: At least the title says AGI is still 30 years away
playstation.6: did they say that?
sieventer: Awesome
sieventer: So AGI 2055
playstation.6: the older guy looks wise
playstation.6: they look credible idk why
trey6033: https://x.com/apples_jimmy/status/1912931455006900522
zonchao: hm
trey6033: In vertex
zonchao: new?
trey6033:
hey1_1hey: Level 5 fully achieved within 8 months some how <:Alan:1136264610161365003>
hey1_1hey: Meanwhile SamA saying AGI is this year <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: The online test does not qualify for Mensa.
777agical: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1912924672447873500
abundantliving_:
st.sioux: i love inequality 🙏
abundantliving_: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1912921639656071231
abundantliving_:
zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw its over
st.sioux: o4 will never ballin
joaoluz19: O4 can solve simple circuit problems that o1 and o3 could not solve
futurist_wizard: Gemini 2.5 pro be ballin
futurist_wizard: Man
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/paulgauthier/status/1912892114310160392?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
spicy.lemonade: god damn
a1c4p0ne: Nice
trent_k: No search
trent_k: Too easy for oh threezy
a1c4p0ne: With web search or no
trent_k: I've been using gemini for that, it does excellent
anathemaofmankind: O3 solves a problem with 100% difficulty rating
anathemaofmankind: Holy shit bro <@471334973379706900>
a1c4p0ne: Can it help you on factorio now <:ez:1136267305521774634>
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okbut: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/societal-duty-to-have-children-attitude-by-country.43617/
hikukomoru: It's real, it's sourced from the European Sex Agency
zonchao: this is why they have negative gdp growth
futurist_wizard: Its real
hikukomoru: What's going on in Iraq bruh
trojan09205: It was annoying af when i learned that
fractalcomputer: Yes, it is a taught attitude.
zonchao: this has to be fake
trojan09205: In europe they use a comma instead of a decimal
futurist_wizard: How do people fool for that
hikukomoru: It means 29 years and a month
trojan09205: Misanthropic moment
futurist_wizard: Bruh
zoermena: What the fuck Sweden
futurist_wizard: 29, 1
zonchao: 10????????????????
futurist_wizard: Why are there extra numbers
fractalcomputer: I hate people.
zonchao: 43???????????
fractalcomputer: Jesus Christ.
alejandrozarzuelo: You learn something new every day
zonchao: never heard anyone say this
hikukomoru: This is a map of the average age Europeans lose their virginity
fractalcomputer: I didn't know that they said that.
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
I'm a late bloomer
But you know what they say, the late flower blooms more intensely
okbut: I can't understand platonics
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
okbut: Dude in my frat asked me to check his pics on there, but he was looking for 100% platonic, that's like a friend
fractalcomputer: I don't understand you people.
zonchao:
hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦
_3sphere: I have sleep debt sorry 😭
zoermena: No stay
futurist_wizard: Night night
_3sphere: Night guys 🥰
_3sphere: Okay it's midnight
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530
okbut: There's someone out there with a similar mind
fractalcomputer: I would not like to know.
zoermena: Yes, it was Instagram based
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zoermena: Perhaps it changed based on your location?
technocake.: oh no wait im kindda autistic
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk dude
alejandrozarzuelo: I did the 50 questions one
futurist_wizard: Bruv i linked it!
alejandrozarzuelo: We must have taken different tests
zoermena: Unfortunately I’ve come to the realization that many research papers might more often than not followed questionable procedures and measurements t which don’t make them that reliable, that’s why there’s so much noise when looking into accurate information on nutrition. I’ll still take it with a grain of salt. Now I don’t know if you read it but I won’t.
oooooooooog: are we taking different tests/??
technocake.: apparently im not autistic
oooooooooog: wtf?
technocake.: oh
oooooooooog: if your life isn't affected it simply doesn't matter though
oooooooooog: https://docs.autismresearchcentre.com/papers/2001_BCetal_adulteyes.pdf it's based off stuff, actually
technocake.: raads-r
technocake.: what does this mean?
technocake.:
zoermena: Probably but I don’t really care, because the test is based on nothing.
futurist_wizard: You failed some because of thst then
oooooooooog: seriously?
oooooooooog: u never played minecraft b4?
zoermena: Yeah I just answered based on the ones I knew
oooooooooog: become a fanfiction reader no cap
futurist_wizard: 'Aghast' the fuck?
oooooooooog: start reading fr bro
futurist_wizard: Because i kept having to google the fucking words
oooooooooog: fr
jonvi_1: I really like how it's able to go between styles while keeping it like seemingly consistent
oooooooooog: ur supposed to take 2-3
oooooooooog: u took 517 seconds though, thats almost 10 minutes
zoermena: This tests just add noise to better treatment, on one had you have idiots saying that this conditions are bs, on the other some are self diagnosing
oooooooooog: peak
futurist_wizard: Its over Alejandro
jonvi_1:
oooooooooog: 23-30 is NT
18 - 29 is AT
(which doesn't really make sense, but whatever)
drewsni:
oooooooooog: ~~still within neurotypical average range~~ both...
zoermena: It was so weird I didn’t like it
zoermena: 24
hey1_1hey: Yeah I scored low so I dont like it
oooooooooog: also yeah, it's not a great test lol
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destrucules: He's a Turing Award winner, but also the laughing stock of ML
okbut: I cannot
joaoluz19: How is it that the chief scientist there is totally anti-LLM and we only see Llama? Where is Lecun with the new paradigms?
destrucules: I'm an advocate of the Llama 4 models and even I don't care
destrucules: Can you blame us?
okbut: Many such cases
st.sioux: it cant
joaoluz19: Because it's a nothingburger
destrucules: Click "open in browser"
joaoluz19: Yes, clearly gpt has a tiny creative potential. It can make references to literature but not articulate different knowledge to produce something new (on a mind uploading scale).
okbut: Nobody is talking about Meta <:Hmm:804642320195780619>
trey6033: No it's blurred when clicked
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> https://fxtwitter.com/anduriltech/status/1917226909609722103
destrucules: Click the thing it'll unblur
trey6033: Blurry ah pic
destrucules: Grok 3 mini > o3 mini
destrucules: Actual metrics
.0xunkn0wn: i asked it to come up with new ways
.0xunkn0wn: yeah
trey6033: Per benchmarks o3 mini is slightly stronger than grok 3 mini. Likewise o1 medium is stronger than grok 3.
joaoluz19: He cited all the techniques that currently exist: fMRI, calcium imaging, etc., instead of developing which technique would be sufficient for mind uploading, which is why I researched nanorobots for a time.
trey6033: Bro wiffed my point
trey6033: I'm talking actual metrics
destrucules: Okay so GPT-4o mini is smarter than GPT-4.1 got it
.0xunkn0wn: who's gonna try senolytic drugs when they come out
trey6033: What, that's not what I'm saying
.0xunkn0wn: btw
trey6033: It isn't some conspiracy theory explanation, people just go with best cost/performance ratio
destrucules: Again, by that metric, Llama 3.3 70B Instruct is smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro
trey6033: If grok is as strong as you say it would be getting the highest usage
joaoluz19: At an engineering level you don't need to assume physicalism, what is reasonable to admit is that there are indeed _parts_ of consciousness originated by the neural substrate and you can manipulate these networks in a very special way given a desirable output i.e. FDVR for example.
joaoluz19: > These concepts rest on the assumption that consciousness and identity arise from physical brain structure; supporters note many related tools exist or are under development, but also admit key steps remain highly speculative
destrucules: ArtificialAnalysis does third party benchmarking for all popular models. They've independently tested o4 mini and Grok 3 mini
destrucules: Look at ArtificialAnalysis
trey6033: Grok 3 is weaker than o1
st.sioux: there's a balance between cost and performance
destrucules: By that metric Llama 3.3 70B Instruct is stronger than Gemini 2.5 Pro
destrucules: By that metric Gemini 2.0 Flash is smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro
okbut: Headline asks a question --> Answer = "No"
trey6033: You have to compare pass1 to pass1, not consec64 to pass1
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wellmeaningalien: is all u know anime or some shigt
wellmeaningalien: bro u havent heard of severance?
joaoluz19: 1x5
wellmeaningalien: damn i need to read more fire punch
hikukomoru: What's a severance 💔
wellmeaningalien: which episode are you on
wellmeaningalien: severance is so fucking good
hikukomoru: I think I read it all in one day
It was just so fucking good holy shit
joaoluz19: Will watch one more episode now, so good
wellmeaningalien: misa is SO fucking annoying
joaoluz19: Misa
wellmeaningalien: manga*
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: when does it even come in the anime (dont tell me)
hikukomoru: The context is fucking insane
wellmeaningalien: yeah
hikukomoru: This face
wellmeaningalien: tbh i used to think its was fat hairy nuts from berserk
wellmeaningalien: ofc
wellmeaningalien: yes
hikukomoru: That the mc does
hikukomoru: I hope you atleast recognize that meme face
wellmeaningalien: i was literally in the metro and i closed the book when i got to the scene where one of the characters was BUTT NAKED
hikukomoru: 🥀
wellmeaningalien: the first chapter LMFAO
hikukomoru: Tell me what point you're at
hikukomoru: It's so fucking wierd
wellmeaningalien: cause im still reading
wellmeaningalien: say no more
wellmeaningalien: ok
hikukomoru: I loved fire punch
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: like some scenes are
wellmeaningalien: oh yeah also speaking of tatsuki fujimoto ive been reading fire punch recently and like its kinda cool but WOW its weird as hell
wellmeaningalien: denji solos the shit out of okarun
wellmeaningalien: chainsaw man solos
wellmeaningalien: dungeon meshi and frieren are better
wellmeaningalien: its fine
wellmeaningalien: nah
wellmeaningalien: twitter 💔
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joaoluz19: Common guys
joaoluz19: Artistic bear
hey1_1hey: Chat clip that
ailoveyoom: Autistic bear?
hey1_1hey: WHAT
ai9708: autistic bear
hey1_1hey: AUTISTIC BEAR 😭
drewsni: but like only one damn. This might actually end up saving money depending on how much it costs. Whenever i try to generate words i always end up running like 100 gens just to get 1 that is correct
hey1_1hey: Someone just fell over in the back 😭
hey1_1hey: They been cooking
hey1_1hey: Damn bro hex codes aswell
neon01197: (meant as a compliment, seems the rror rate is pretty low)
neon01197: first img they gen'd had a word miswritten
hikukomoru: Texting Sama rn asking him to generate a hot dog girl
drewsni: this is insane
hey1_1hey: I see why it took so long
neon01197: they do be cooking
hey1_1hey: Yeah I think this is an AGI moment
drewsni: genuinely wtf it isnt messed up any text so far right?
joaoluz19: Hooooly
hey1_1hey: Just a dog
hey1_1hey: Nuh uh
hikukomoru: Dog girl ? 🥵
ai9708: that would be awesome
futurist_wizard: Its not actually live
spicy.lemonade: on artist reddit
spicy.lemonade: theres about t be so much cope
hey1_1hey: Oh its a dog
hey1_1hey: IS THAT A CAT GIRL
hey1_1hey: I would fit right in
ailoveyoom: AI = Autistic Intelligence
drewsni: every 6 images it generates is porn, so its essentially live russian roulette
spicy.lemonade: cant wait to see all the cope
gamerbath: But it's uh, the guy is in space and he's not wearing a spacesuit. obviously it's stupid 🫥
hikukomoru: They are all autistic
maintcrew: clown to clown communication
ai9708: what do you expect?
st.sioux: as image gen usually does
st.sioux: theyre scared its going to fuck up
hey1_1hey: Gibberlink engaged
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_cloudost: And the noise makes them think it's ass
_cloudost: So, apparently they have one issue with the openAI's image generator, the drawings have too much "noise" aka random grayish dots
retrerox: competition allow humans make wonder
retrerox: thats why i like there is multiple companies pushing AI
retrerox: Specially because the competition of Rus and USA we wouldnt reach the moon back when we did
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: we also probably wouldnt have had computers if ww2 didnt happen
retrerox: Another thing that push back the human interms of science is morality.
We wouldn't had so big discoverements in medicine if WW2 was not a thing that happend.
retrerox: I mean at the moment Ai can actually make "her own thoughts" , it will develop faster
spicy.lemonade: whats the first thing youl do when fdvr gets announced
shirethedreamer: yeah i assumed there is a very similar word
retrerox: Since is very similar
retrerox: yeah in spanish is Inmortalidad which is the reason why we mispronounce it
shirethedreamer: i noticed only spanish speaking people write immortality like this
retrerox: Not from spain but i do speak spanish
shirethedreamer: are you spanish?
spicy.lemonade: in 10 years ill still be in my prime
spicy.lemonade: im 18, I should be good🙏
retrerox: Tbh i feel more probable that we might just get robot bodes that figure out how to fix our bodies.
Both are very futuristicals but yea 😂
retrerox: I'm 32 so i'm starting gym now and keeping my body and brain as clean as possible for that day 🙏
spicy.lemonade: conensus one is scary asf
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: I hope we dont get the race ending
retrerox: AI inmortality soon :Prayge:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: agents startig
spicy.lemonade: but still big
spicy.lemonade: 2025 is gonna be a bit boring
spicy.lemonade: ok so based on thier new predictions
spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
spicy.lemonade: within 5 years
spicy.lemonade: mind uploading
spicy.lemonade: that means
spicy.lemonade: underestimating
spicy.lemonade: insome cases
spicy.lemonade: they wrre perfect
spicy.lemonade: lol wtf
spicy.lemonade: their predictions in 2021 were
spicy.lemonade: and determine how accurate
spicy.lemonade: asked 2.5 to summarize
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ailoveyoom: Imagine if, "We'll be rolling it out to Plus and Pro users over the coming weeks" 😭
st.sioux: "we are so chill and cool actually"
spicy.lemonade: Idk why they wouldn't drop it lol
literallyvarane: “One more thing” GPT 4.75 incoming.”
i_like_over_9000_turtles: I used to love Elon, I did two songs about him. I dunno it feels like he has turned to the dark side, gotten stupid and evil. I wonder if it's the ketamine?
literallyvarane: Watch them do a “one more thing” and ship o3 today or something.
trent_k: In 15 minutes we'll hear if they're *actually* dropping it or if they're still on their bullshit. I don't get my hopes up for OAI livestreams anymore
literallyvarane: Lolololololol
drewsni: lol
spicy.lemonade: <@1068159407671754824> looks like they did drop native image
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-tesla-siliconvalley-dance-twitter-gif-736329299122305506
literallyvarane: But this isn’t helping them lol.
hikukomoru: Believe in Elon 🙏
ailoveyoom: 😏
ailoveyoom: I have a friend with proof
literallyvarane: I mean grok is still supposedly training so we’ll see… I guess?
ailoveyoom: They fixed that btw
spicy.lemonade: As google
spicy.lemonade: Better not be as censored
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Yes, you are correct. My apologies.
zonchao: <:wtf:1151275553987510282>
metaldragon01: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1904589687458533468
hey1_1hey: brb
hikukomoru: "You know this is a serious announcement when they bring out the twink"
hey1_1hey: I gotta go make some food, kiss my SamA plush goodnight and then hop on livestream
spicy.lemonade: This will be a good drop
spicy.lemonade: W
literallyvarane: People playing ping pong in the background on some 2003 Silicon Valley energy.
spicy.lemonade: Oh didn't see that lol
hey1_1hey: THATS WHAT IM SAYING
gamerbath: WE ARE SO BACK
hey1_1hey: He is tho 😭
gamerbath: SAM ALTMAN. HUGE
spicy.lemonade: Like 4.5
st.sioux: altman needs to control the nerds and prevent them from being cringe
literallyvarane: Memes how Google might’ve killed grok via blog post lolol they gotta start doing cozy lunch break room announcements.
hikukomoru: He's there bro
spicy.lemonade: The drops are always bad when Sam altman isn't on the stream
darkstar0818: No you don't. You have 2.5 pro exp 🙂
hey1_1hey: Litterly the first name <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: 💀
metaldragon01: Just happens to be the exact formula used for the tarrifs
metaldragon01: Vibe governing
metaldragon01: https://x.com/krishnanrohit/status/1907587352157106292
zonchao: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1907449316534259850
metaldragon01: They all give the same answer and it's the exact formula they used
metaldragon01: They asked chatgpt. Gemini or claude
zonchao: https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1907234034876588366
metaldragon01: No. It's literally ai tarrifs
zonchao: they charge us and freeload, why shouldn't we do the same to them
zonchao: reciprocal
literallyvarane: *Maybe it's not actually that bad, but Christ these terrifs are meme level IQ stuff.
literallyvarane: Just lost to china guys GG we're fucking cooked
metaldragon01: https://x.com/basedjensen/status/1907534748257497134
metaldragon01: https://x.com/basedjensen/status/1907544349996658725
metaldragon01: Only the chips. There's a lot more that goes into building out datacenters
burnytech: nevermind so they made an exception for chips
https://x.com/indrjl/status/1907559007188869383?t=7HtMpZeDfFL6PsKN5qWYiQ&s=19
but tariffs on a lot of things indirectly make chips more expensive anyway.
spicy.lemonade: Holy shit
spicy.lemonade: Is on a single a100
spicy.lemonade: The deepmind world model
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: wtf
metaldragon01: Google may be the only hope
metaldragon01: Yeeeaaappp
burnytech:
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/snwy_me/status/1907554410089295979?t=LuVY9Ko82Jl9YSrtUABb7Q&s=19
brain4brain: This is crazy
brain4brain: Holy shit.
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132
trent_k: I'm calling the cops
trent_k:
okbut: <a:hack:1126224614134136832>
spicy.lemonade: isnt it crazy that the first place we are all likeley to be once agi drops is in this channel
wellmeaningalien: havent seen an LLM do that since like gpt 3 and liquid ai
wolf3404: Grok is pretty good
.wolfnacht: i actually go to grok bcz i love the unhinged ideas, it used to give...but it's dumbed down rn.
okbut: ChatGPT tried to rip off their "Fun fact" closure
okbut: I still use its DeepSearch because its base response format is tight
maintcrew: chatgpt is slopinator even with a prompt
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a1c4p0ne: Lecun said real world models for agi
ldj: hmm
ldj: I'd have to think of what good agentic benchmarks are available that are not close to saturation yet
ldj: I do think an update to that will come by the end of this year, and I think maybe GPT-5 itself will be that update to it, with GPT-5 being able to go off and do things in browser and such.
but saying how much better it will be kinda requires a benchmark to be used for reference.
brain4brain: Yes
metaldragon01: Oom usually refers to compute lol
brain4brain: I'm never the kind of guy to care about compute, only benchmarks
ldj: > and how many times or order of magnitude do you expect it to be better than operator-v1
idk how you want me to answer this lol.
idk what you mean by orders of magnitude. Do you mean like in terms of compute scale difference?
brain4brain: O6 is just overkill even with the worst case scenario
metaldragon01: I think we should expect one with 5
brain4brain: Also <@312370916820779040> do you expect another operator from OpenAI this year, and how many times or order of magnitude do you expect it to be better than operator-v1
metaldragon01: Too close to call. I'd lean no on some. I'm much more confident in the o6 tier
brain4brain: Worst case scenario
O1: high schooler level
O3: undergrad
O4: PhD
O5: Nobel
Best case
O1: undergrad
O3: PhD
O4: Nobel
O5: ???
(Ignoring moravec paradox and hoping all silly questions get patched by o5)
brain4brain: I expect to all be human level by o5
metaldragon01: All current benchmarks reach human level by time we reach o6 level model
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Let’s see how it’ll do on arc agi 2
ldj: But in this context im talking specifically to you, so you're the reader. soo, hmm. Idk maybe you actually have very big expectations for O4 full already so that could be risky <:LULW:789888409346113556>
But I'd say i'm about 90% confident that GPT-5 standard intelligence will be better than GPT-4.5 in a majority of benchmarks. As well as better than O1-mini at a majority of benchmarks too.
metaldragon01: Better than that is basically o5
brain4brain: Ah I see
metaldragon01: 04 pro is roughly o5 level
ldj: Well it's kinda inherently based on the readers own expectations, so depends who is the reader in this context lol. Because I say "a bit better than what you would expect"...
brain4brain: O5 would be AGI imo
metaldragon01: Hell that would feel like my lowest tier of AGI
brain4brain: What's your confidence % of this prediction
metaldragon01: That would certainly be worthy of the name
ldj: maybe even a bit better than what you'd expect from an O4 Pro model
ldj: I think prob atleast a bit better than what you might expect from an O4 Full model from the recent O-series trajectory.
metaldragon01: Probably something around o4 full/pro
brain4brain: What do you suspect GPT-5 on max level intelligence be
metaldragon01: Standard being the free version
metaldragon01: Feels like a high bar.
.coldcall: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
.coldcall: will it write smut
ldj: so don't fret
ldj: I suspect GPT-5 at standard intelligence will still be similar or better than O3 though.
ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331>
.coldcall: Unlimited, free GPT-5 (at standard intelligence <:doomer:1136265388473196644> )
ldj: and ofcourse in just a few more months we have GPT-5 🙂
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drewsni: im amazed how perfect the iphone is yet the logo is slightly off
hey1_1hey: Im calling the police
hey1_1hey: Not wearing her seat blet
spicy.lemonade: its not just smooth
hey1_1hey: Arrest this bitch
hikukomoru: Pretty lady 😳
spicy.lemonade: bro I absolutly love how it adds texture to every image
.histic: fkk
it can make a great profile picture
hey1_1hey: Id vote for him
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: lyou can copy art styles
hikukomoru: Looks like an election poster
wellmeaningalien: that might or might not be better
wellmeaningalien: so
hey1_1hey: clocks
wellmeaningalien: can draw girl luffy
hey1_1hey: Oh clcks
hey1_1hey: COCKS?
spicy.lemonade: the funny thing is. you can legitimately steal art now
hey1_1hey: Yeah I have tiny testicles everyone
.histic: <@458069236825194506> but can it draw clocks accurately?
hey1_1hey: Yanno what sure
hey1_1hey: Thats...
wellmeaningalien: spanish you portugtard
spicy.lemonade: "art theft" 💔
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: What langauge is this 💔
hikukomoru: Self-deprecating humour
.histic: how much data was this trained on. damn
wellmeaningalien: AND THE LOGO
wellmeaningalien: the ENTIRE KNIGHT IS SO CONSISTENT
.histic: damn..
wellmeaningalien: dude
spicy.lemonade: the knights
spicy.lemonade: broo the details in the background
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Imma go show my friends this now
hey1_1hey: You guys dont see the vision
joaoluz19: lololololol
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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ldj: Literally anything that takes you 8 hours? such as an 8 hour work day.
Or if you work at a job for 4 years, that's 4 years of work, etc..
or better to represent 4 years of work as more like 1 or 2 years of work, but you get what I mean
supersteve8000: 11:33 pm for moi <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
supersteve8000:
nsec:
supersteve8000: which would be a scary world so, yeah
supersteve8000: then we're looking at like ▓ matrix type math, or quantum-ally
supersteve8000: cause what if?
supersteve8000: 🐸
supersteve8000: just be kind to them :d is my moral here
supersteve8000: [ year **** ] be careful w pointers
supersteve8000: for ex [ year 2048 ] ai could be so far advanced that we have to look at, *treating the ai* correctly, so as not to overestimate in how we understand it's inner-code
supersteve8000: i could be wrong lmfaooo
supersteve8000: i believe <@312370916820779040> is looking at it from an *exponential* perspective, where the model is improving at a rate that will only increase *over time*
supersteve8000: i reckon i will scroll back up
supersteve8000: could someone * pointer their graph here:
hikukomoru: How?
supersteve8000: lemme look again
supersteve8000: my interpretation of the graph above ^ is that it is *non-linear* or exponential in its nature
supersteve8000: oh oh my b
supersteve8000: sure
supersteve8000: thing as in the ai?
supersteve8000: ah
supersteve8000: what's your question?
supersteve8000: same here, helped me realize some things
clevermoniker: same
supersteve8000: 📊
supersteve8000:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-confusion-what-gif-19368852
supersteve8000: <:1984:958080414147285064>
st.sioux: 95% 8 hours seems agi-ish to me
ldj: thats what the 100 years means.
ldj: It's saying that the AI model will be capable of doing things that would take a human 100 years.
supersteve8000: lmfao xddd
otub: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
supersteve8000: gr8 advice right here
metaldragon01: Just don't die and you win
supersteve8000: ridiculous tbh
metaldragon01: Crazy timeline
clevermoniker: seems a bit pessimistic and non exponential to me <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
metaldragon01: Agi 2029 at the latest 😂
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brain4brain: It looks worst than an AI one 😂✌️
oooooooooog: many-a hampster have had such a fate
.histic: dying by a blocked anal sphincter is the worst way to go out
oooooooooog: i was merely demonstrating that the chance of me taking a shit in the next week is not 100%
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/you-ok-gif-26517102
oooooooooog: or i experience massive organ failure, preventing the realse of shit from my bowels
oooooooooog: or a cosmic ray vaporizes me
oooooooooog: or if a meteor hits the earth
oooooooooog: not if i were to blow my brains out, or die in any other way, for that matter
.histic: lotta anti-ai people there
oooooooooog: i can't believe this ar*ist said that
.histic: got 100k+ likes on twitter lol
spacetimetsunami: There is a 100% chance that you take a shit in the next week
oooooooooog: this is a really pretentious thing to say
.histic: https://x.com/noodles_and_tea/status/1905485234688459010
artists are pretentious
oooooooooog: there isn't a 100% chance of anything
spacetimetsunami: There is a 100% chance of aligned superintelligence
oooooooooog: i would allow you to experience maximal suffering eternity for +0.0001% chance of aligned superintelligence
anathemaofmankind: I hope they suffer more
.histic:
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/vader-noooo-gif-4825231
spicy.lemonade: LOLLLLL I asked the model to open ChatGPT and it opened Gemini. It’s flash 2 based with an implementation of 2 papers released by tencent
.histic: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/15462/when-will-gpt5-be-announced/
.histic: may is optimistic, i'd say june+ realistically.
spacetimetsunami: I keep hearing May but is that even confirmed at all
spacetimetsunami: When gpt5…
brain4brain: Next thing we know Google (DeepMind) and X will merge 😭
zonchao: wouldn't be surprised if xai and gdm do a collab for a game
zonchao: they love each other <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1905778660206117000
Demis loves Elon.
joaoluz19: Don't know man I have a friend in the US who Disney sent his IP and home address to when he downloaded something pirated.
zoermena: Lmao
brain4brain: That’s normal for almost every single country if you have a VPN
brain4brain:
joaoluz19: One of the few advantages of Brazil, you can pirate everything without consequences
joaoluz19:
zoermena: Like sure but I also wouldn’t be happy on their suffering
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
spicy.lemonade: WWW
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1905615402924662833? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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fractalcomputer: I think Manjul Bhargava is a good example of a strong researcher that didn't participate in the Olympiads. Fields medalist, obviously. The guy's doctoral advisor was Wiles of all people.
fractalcomputer: I believe so, but there exists a certain correlation with the kinds of metacognitive skills required.
spicy.lemonade: yeah
fractalcomputer: Sioux was asking about the opposing case.
spicy.lemonade: top researcher can not become imo winner
spicy.lemonade: IMO winer can become a very good researcher
st.sioux: and do you believe that someone with little aptitude for imo-style problem solving could still end up becoming an excellent researcher?
fractalcomputer: But yes, my point was that IMO-style problems do not necessarily indicate research prowess - even if they do indicate a certain kind of mathematical fortesse.
fractalcomputer: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
fractalcomputer: This looks like a fun one.
spicy.lemonade: I think the IMO is equivalent of soccer scouts. where backthen talented kids from the favelas in brazil would get lucky and make it big but now theres a whole system to find majority of them
fractalcomputer:
spicy.lemonade: just starting
fractalcomputer: This was the problem he got zero points on.
spicy.lemonade: prob wasnt as popular
fractalcomputer: Rapoport could have probably qualified.
spicy.lemonade: so not realy fair
spicy.lemonade: dont think IMO existed at time
fractalcomputer: Here's Lurie's scoring.
fractalcomputer: Grothendieck himself, Serre, Deligne, Rapoport, etc.
fractalcomputer: Counter-examples; Grothendieck's lineage (maybe with the exception of Scholze) doesn't have that many IMO winners.
spicy.lemonade: but not all imo winers go into research
spicy.lemonade: become very good researchers
spicy.lemonade: I think the IMO winers that do go into research
spicy.lemonade: also comparable to IMO
spicy.lemonade: feynman achieved highest score on putnam
fractalcomputer: Or it could just be my bias, since I really only tend to care for the algebraic side of things - which is an issue I am trying to rectify.
fractalcomputer: He's a bit like Erdös.
fractalcomputer: I mean, he is certainly one of the brightest mathematicians in terms of sheer processing power of our age, so to say, but he hasn't revolutionised, well, really anything.
fractalcomputer: Scholze, see above. I really like his work.
fractalcomputer: Tao's a bit of a letdown, I feel.
spicy.lemonade: peter schloze
spicy.lemonade: terrence tao
fractalcomputer: Mirzakhani was also a gold medalist, iirc.
spicy.lemonade: yeh lol
fractalcomputer:
fractalcomputer: Perelman insisted that the prize was not due only to him.
spicy.lemonade: the only one
spicy.lemonade: and he solved milenium problem
spicy.lemonade: Grigori Perelman won imo didnt he
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spicy.lemonade: youd hallucinate
spicy.lemonade: on this date
spicy.lemonade: if i asked you what you did 10 years ago
spicy.lemonade: we have ability to check our work through real world intreaction
okbut: Or especially: Create new ideas
spicy.lemonade: the difference is
spicy.lemonade: humans hallucinate
okbut: Maybe I'm misunderstanding the long plot: Isn't there cognitive dissonance between making an AI that cannot hallucinate, and one that can solve new problems?
joaoluz19: They mention it explicitly
joaoluz19: Bro black mirror s07ep4 is literally singularity lol
spicy.lemonade: starting with it might have actually saved our asses
spicy.lemonade: and optimizing. if we started with rl before llms wed essentially train a model on all steam games. train it to be a winner then try to teach it language but then itd only say stuff to satisfy us. alignment cooked. lecun is wrong about LLMS
alejandrozarzuelo: we would need RYGCB+
alejandrozarzuelo: because, with so much definition of color, RGB wont cut it
alejandrozarzuelo: we might need to change all of our screens
alejandrozarzuelo: which we should
alejandrozarzuelo: to be perfectly saturated in the human field of view
alejandrozarzuelo: if we augment our vision
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
spicy.lemonade: they arent like a genie misinterpreting what we ask
spicy.lemonade: llms truly understand the nature of what we are asking
spicy.lemonade: Daniel k. made a good point in his interview. its good we came up with llms first before world models. from a saftey perspective
alejandrozarzuelo: we mainly distinguish colors between green and blue by value, not by hue
alejandrozarzuelo: there is a gap between blue and green where we dont see very saturatedly
alejandrozarzuelo: this is the problem
alejandrozarzuelo: this will make blue, azure, cyan, jade and green even more common favorite colors for humans
spicy.lemonade: 70 years of false promises
spicy.lemonade: its kinda sad
spicy.lemonade: but nothing ever happens for them
spicy.lemonade: exept maybe ufo subreddit
spicy.lemonade: people who arent into singularity are the true normies
spicy.lemonade: yk. the word normie everyone uses to describe an outsider to a subject. we are probably normies to the idk art and fishing community. but tbh this is the community where there are truly normies bc this has huge implications for all of their lives and they dont even know
ailoveyoom: Tbh I wish OAI was less normie like, imagine if we had all checkpoints/updates of 4o available in the model picker lol 💀
spicy.lemonade: one day theyl wake up and we have digital god
spicy.lemonade: i stopped caring about normies
spicy.lemonade: normies still think ai is bad at math
okbut: I love the variety given by the iterative releases, but user side needs that uniformity
okbut: I'm only speaking from the normie perspective, which doesn't want floats and footnotes
spicy.lemonade: like google with bard
spicy.lemonade: i suppose meta is still in the game but they need an overhaul
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spicy.lemonade: but hr appologized like 10x
_cloudost: then he can stay in the belly until trumps admin is gone
zoermena: What if someone eats him
_cloudost: Then he isnt a legal migrant, Trumps admin will deport him if someone reports him to the authority
zonchao: they fucked up some paperwork and blamed trump 😭
zonchao: https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1915954447714546093? LMFAO
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
zoermena: By “forgiving” him you spared him from being your next meal, you eat English speakers and you like it 👍🏼
spicy.lemonade: I’m on a diet anyway
spicy.lemonade: I forgive him
spicy.lemonade: Awe he looked so sad
spicy.lemonade: I’m cooked
spicy.lemonade: He can’t navigate either
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: wtf bro
spicy.lemonade: My uber eats driver can’t speak English
zoermena: God has spoken
zoermena:
tchekof: Gotta bitch somewhere about random internet peeps I'd bet
drewsni: o4 mini does this on the api if I give it more than 1 tool
drewsni: Why are you coming on here about some random Reddit subreddit
ebbenflos_25799: absolutely agree, im just saying that a lot of these subreddits are either ass, too niche, or too small
himekokatagiri: just sit down relax let this pre-agi moment pass you by
himekokatagiri: even if they are designed to make you
himekokatagiri: but yea like try not to get too angry at online comments
himekokatagiri: we have a lot of time I guess
himekokatagiri: I think ancestor simulations are more plausible
ldj: Motivational video for chat
himekokatagiri: QA is kinda too out there but it could happen maybe
ebbenflos_25799: and QuantumArchaeology is moderated by a guy with a literal vendetta against the idea of QA itself
ebbenflos_25799: Cryonics is a lot more niche
ebbenflos_25799: theres also "Transhuman" which seems to be inactive
himekokatagiri: more in the sense that they don't really buy into singularity
himekokatagiri: like they seem oddly against AI
himekokatagiri: transhumanism is just weird
himekokatagiri: there's fdvr dream too but that one's like 5 people
himekokatagiri: accelerate is for uhh, enthusiast use
ebbenflos_25799: at least on the accelerate subreddit a post like that would be castrated
himekokatagiri: guess singularity is kinda niche
ebbenflos_25799: just letting crackhead threads show up
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drewsni:
maintcrew: where is the pineapple
wellmeaningalien: guy i knew always made fun of dalle for this
wellmeaningalien: fails on the last step but very impressive
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o can just about generate a step by step pizza recipe
hikukomoru: AGI 🙏
spicy.lemonade: yoooo
wellmeaningalien: damn
wellmeaningalien: HO:Y FUCKING
zoermena: Thanks!
maintcrew: 3 hours ago
maintcrew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6R7UOFx1bw
maintcrew: holy fucking shit <@471334973379706900>
jensen on computer phile
wellmeaningalien: sora
drewsni: thats not my gen for reference
zoermena: Mine is so weird.
drewsni: lmao im not unique i guess
zoermena: In Sora or ChatGPT site?
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: ngl we need a 100% aime score model
spacetimetsunami: I’ll try and prompt better
hikukomoru: Sickkk
Someone needs to make a doujin with 4o now
spacetimetsunami: Not identical
st.sioux: super accurate, love it (i can't read japanese)
spacetimetsunami: 4o did it but it made her look more conventionally attractive
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o can generate incredibly accurate japanese text
hikukomoru: Gemini if you're a brokie
drewsni: 4o
hikukomoru: 4o
spacetimetsunami: What’s the best image model for photoshopping
Like my gf wants a pick of her that’s identical but with different hair color
spicy.lemonade: theres always some
neon01197: cuz they couldnt try it and / or they dont like openai
joaoluz19: Incredible
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jjtpa3/which_the_native_multimodal_image_generator_is/
bro why are some people voting flash.
4o-image gen is undeniably better.
neon01197: when will i get it on me frail hands
wellmeaningalien: thats not really something i can say about a lot of image generators
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: He thinks its not that good
hey1_1hey: Anyone mind giving me their best examples for 4o image gen
ailoveyoom: There's a weird effect and it also takes super long to gen
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futurist_wizard: Hes 22
hikukomoru: You really are 60
futurist_wizard: We went to school together, I've known him since he was a kid
futurist_wizard: Because im friends with powerful people
hikukomoru: Why do you know politicians
hikukomoru: Isn't he some random british politician
futurist_wizard: I literally know that guy
hikukomoru: Dude you are not 30
futurist_wizard: 24, its the character in my pfp ratty
hikukomoru: This guy?
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: You look 60 not 35 or whatever age you are
futurist_wizard: James Sunderland isn't a real person
futurist_wizard: I did look like that when i was 7-8 years old, but i got younger as i got older
_3sphere: mf looks like the leather thing at the base of gear shifters
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: That's what I get when I search that name up
hikukomoru: Wtf you look like this?
aero447: Discount Leon Kennedy.
futurist_wizard: The fact you don't know is unsettling
retrerox: orlando bloom is married with Katy perry? Lol
hikukomoru: Who tf is that
retrerox: Since i remember hearing bout him since i was a kid
retrerox: I thought Orlando bloom was older
futurist_wizard: I look a bit like james Sunderland
aero447: LMFAO.
retrerox: Olando bloom
aero447: Olando Bloom, Henry Cavill, Cilian Murphy etc.
memlaswaif: U could have described what u don't look like
retrerox: I'm sure AI will improve brits enough
hikukomoru: No one talks about AI here
Only gay sex and autism
futurist_wizard: I am exotic because i have dutch british genes
hikukomoru: Poor manlets
retrerox: Nice AI related topic guys
aero447: I am simply stating what an attractive man looks like.
futurist_wizard: I remember a girl finding out tom hardy was 5'8 and then she didn't like him anymore
retrerox: Brit teets are just a turn off
aero447: SMDH.
hikukomoru: Are you gay
Is everyone here a homosexual
aero447: Argue with the wall.
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alejandrozarzuelo: specially THAT level of blond
alejandrozarzuelo: i still dont know why anume makes americans and the british blonds
alejandrozarzuelo: still needs to improve
gamerbath: yeah that's worth $2.8
alejandrozarzuelo: why does that girl look like an anime version of the European Union?
shirethedreamer: 🫣
shirethedreamer: 😱
shirethedreamer:
_cloudost: OA lacks behind
_cloudost: https://www.vxreddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/fwYtwsNyY2 when will OpenAI announce Sora 2?
retrerox: what are this thing suppose to do each?
spicy.lemonade: It is
alejandrozarzuelo: its not proto agi
aero447:
pecunia_: China no 1
pecunia_: Woahhh
spicy.lemonade: INSANE
spicy.lemonade: and im not trying to unfollow all the accounts
spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: my reddit got cooked guys
brain4brain: https://fxtwitter.com/dreamingtulpa/status/1910359733082509358?s=61
gamerbath: but specialised robots are more expensive, it will be much cheaper with a general purpose humanoid robot for a lot of tasks. There will be some heavy duty tasks though that will require specialised robots, but I think figure is only aiming to replace labour humans are already doing
okbut: Similar to that conspiracy about Whole Foods having offshore workers read the items input to the cart because their systems weren't working
okbut: I still think the first consumer-worthy humanoid housebots will just offload tasks to some remote controller in the Philippines or someplace until there's enough train
floortom_9: Does anyone know how many Deep Research queries we get per day using Gemini Pro 2.5 for Advanced users?
brain4brain: Robots in factories should be specialized robots, while robots in household should be humanoid
aero447: https://x.com/mikekalilmfg/status/1910822501485105201
hey1_1hey: Still thinking about me 👉 👈
.wolfnacht:
a1c4p0ne: 🤫
spicy.lemonade: and say its not proto agi
spicy.lemonade: watch this
spicy.lemonade: we have proto agi
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MvGnmmP3c0&pp=ygUQZ2VtaW5pIDIuMCByb2JvdA%3D%3D
.wolfnacht: saw that, i still don't know what that means maybe just local models they are abt to release or maybe something more 🥵
spicy.lemonade: embodied
spicy.lemonade: we already have proto agi
spicy.lemonade: btw
spicy.lemonade: is protoagi
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.0 video showcase
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futurist_wizard: You need a very high IQ to understand the reasoning behind that
inferno0879: alright but why is iq test written on the back
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: maybe pichai is saving it, when sama brings gpt5.
_cloudost:
st.sioux: another day another chance to daydream about a future with dakota johnson
futurist_wizard: Veo 6 shows the life you could've lived
spicy.lemonade: no
st.sioux: what about veo 5
_cloudost: Veo 4 will be better and more interesting doe
_cloudost: Veo 3 will destroy the movie industry
spicy.lemonade: they will prob announce veo 3
spicy.lemonade: google is stuck in experimental
_cloudost: Nothing ever happens
_cloudost: 5 months ago they said early 2025, now it's almost mid 2025 and still no Veo 2
metaldragon01: Very soon from what I can tell
_cloudost: Been waiting for months
_cloudost: I need veo
_cloudost: Veo 2 when doe
technocake.: tf is pink
metaldragon01: Google likely responding soon with flash 2.5
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jsf3ct/gemini_20_flash_thinking_gone_now/
clevermoniker: hopefully this is actual V3 and not V3.1
wellmeaningalien: claude 3.5 sonnet is such the gold standard that not even claude 3.5 sonnet can surpass it
realelonmuskx: deepseek has 600b lil bro this is x3
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: cat
precariousworlds.: llama 4 gigachad has 9 sextillion parameters
futurist_wizard: I like dogs
futurist_wizard:
realelonmuskx: did mark z say llama 4 behemoth will have 2t parameters wtf my dude
precariousworlds.: Nothing ever happens
hikukomoru: Why is it called scout
Is it a tf2 reference
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: llama 4 scout is a 100b model iirc
hikukomoru: DON'T
wellmeaningalien: didnt include price performance comparison or more equvalent newer models
hikukomoru: Hype dead 🥀
precariousworlds.: Fuck this dog
futurist_wizard: Doggie
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st.sioux: teachers arguably produce the most value in all of society
destrucules: Furthermore, her goal was to help people, and the people who needed help weren't the private school students with rich parents
destrucules: Most teachers weren't like her. Every school, or most of them, has at least one teacher like her. Ridiculously dedicated, every student loves them, they're always arriving early, leaving many hours after close. Always volunteering for a hundred things, juggling a thousand responsibilities. There are others like my mom, but most teachers aren't like that
rayanquitplayin: You guys watch Lex Fridman?
rayanquitplayin: They get robbed in society
rayanquitplayin: Teachers deserve to be paid more
.histic: oh wow
destrucules: She worked herself literally to death
destrucules: She worked 65 hours a week and only made a part time salary
destrucules: My mother was an elementary school science teacher. No one else connected to the local school system could do what she did. She was a force of nature. Changed kids' lives. Inspired tens of thousands of people. Won an international award for her efforts. She never made more than about $25k per year.
rayanquitplayin: You have to work smart
rayanquitplayin: Yea cus there’s always a luck factor
st.sioux: hard work != financial success
st.sioux: yea
destrucules: This isn't the channel nor even the server for economics/politics but I'll just say, I've known some very selfless hardworking people who didn't make very much money
rayanquitplayin: I agree
destrucules: nice
destrucules: There's only one reddit approved response to this
.histic: <:idk:1136264106937171999> i don't even try tbh
i just post what people may find engaging or insightful
.histic: joking.
.histic: now you'll now that i post on r/furry
.histic: damn, i just doxed my account
.histic: ok
rayanquitplayin:
hikukomoru: hi ryan
st.sioux: hello rayan
hikukomoru: Extremely rare Fractal L
fractalcomputer: No, I genuinely have to go; and I am livid because this sort of argumentation is just riddled with the exact same errors in reasoning I see in analytic philosophy; this bizarre obsession in trying to apply rigorous reasoning to non-rigorously defined concepts.
hikukomoru: yes
st.sioux: no
hikukomoru: destrucules won
destrucules: Thanks 🙂
anathemaofmankind: Post this in the subreddit
anathemaofmankind: I think it looks great
rayanquitplayin: Hi chat
st.sioux: ugly ass upwork $1/hr design
.histic: it reminds me of some car's OS
.histic: macos inspired clearly
.histic: 4o created this. its own operating system.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rupanti-apu-rupanti-apu-gif-popcorn-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-15576785
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spicy.lemonade: Same question
spicy.lemonade: Are both ai?
jonvi_1: If they are stochastic parrots then so are we
spicy.lemonade: Ghibli commoditized
maintcrew: the ghibli is consuming the world
maintcrew: sama changed pfp to ghibli pfp
spicy.lemonade: “Stochastic parrots”
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: They’re alive
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Guys
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/pero-gif-25556397
jonvi_1: This is crazy though fr
jonvi_1: It's not me 😢
joaoluz19:
spicy.lemonade: 😭
jonvi_1: https://x.com/threejser/status/1904934747354391005 You dont say
zoermena: I only know two art styles, oil painting, Impressionism and ghibli
hikukomoru: Based
spicy.lemonade: This is funny
spicy.lemonade: You guys are turning ghibli into slop
spicy.lemonade: lol
jonvi_1: yw
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
jonvi_1: "studio ghibli"
zoermena: What’s the art style
_cloudost: Weeb Sama?
jonvi_1:
jonvi_1: Seems to do alright with more obscure stuff too
joaoluz19: Try Sora
jonvi_1: Well if you get dalle images in chatgpt you could try using sora
hikukomoru: Where can I use it
I don't think I have it lol
joaoluz19:
jonvi_1: https://x.com/sama/status/1904921537884676398
jonvi_1: Lol
jonvi_1: Yup
hikukomoru: Do free users have native image gen yet
fractalcomputer: That's more of an angel than a messiah.
spicy.lemonade: it has a messiah complex
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himekokatagiri: Our generation's holding the bag for the past mistakes since jeez the beginning of time
himekokatagiri: We have nothing
himekokatagiri: Do you feel you have any perspective in the current world
fractalcomputer: The banality of your question.
metaldragon01: Just saying I don't think it's what he means unless the new models also allows for new features
himekokatagiri: you clearly are into it
himekokatagiri: when the singularity arrives
himekokatagiri: what are you gonna do
himekokatagiri: c'mon fractal
metaldragon01: I know they are coming
alejandrozarzuelo: i know
wellmeaningalien: literally this appeared like today
wellmeaningalien: wtf are w talking about
metaldragon01: Those are models not features
fractalcomputer: My dear Spaniard, I am making a personal statement, not a societal one. I probably would find it very meaningless.
himekokatagiri: I think people deserve better
wellmeaningalien: o3 and o4-mini
himekokatagiri: without getting old
himekokatagiri: not even about lifespan y'know like going on without disease
himekokatagiri: I think people deserve more time
himekokatagiri: look just extend
alejandrozarzuelo: of course you do
joaoluz19: What? Never heard about it
himekokatagiri: I think about anime a lot lol
metaldragon01: Hoping for avatars
himekokatagiri: idk
fractalcomputer: Nonsense. What would real religiosity mean to you?
metaldragon01: I don't think he's talking about the new models dropping
himekokatagiri: skill issue
joaoluz19:
himekokatagiri: religion's a fucking racket but ok these days people only pretend they're religious
himekokatagiri: then backlash from religion
himekokatagiri: but it's too expensive you need a lot of specialized labor
himekokatagiri: esp with AGI
himekokatagiri: of course it's coming eventually
himekokatagiri: life extension research isn't a right it's a privilege
futurist_wizard: money is how you fund these ventures
fractalcomputer: I feel rather conflicted about the opportunity of life extension.
futurist_wizard: i think 1
himekokatagiri: money is limited futurist
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gamerbath:
gamerbath: I regret choosing high because jesus christ is it taking its sweet ass time thinking, and taking all my tokens too
gamerbath: well here I am half a year later, trying a run with o3 high rn
3ds0662: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01C3a4fL1m0
zonchao: https://x.com/gork/status/1917767938234540291
zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1917988400256139321
trent_k: The girl was being rude
fractalcomputer: And the justification that these people give is always the same lame and equally vapid response; it just works. By some cosmic coincidence or divine comedy, it just works -- except when we start thinking about the finicky details of applying mathematical ideas to physical objects.
fractalcomputer: Physicists pick and choose over what kinds of algebras they work over; the classical mechanist likes real numbers since they are nice and intuitively capture many of the continuous-seeming qualities of the physical world, but the quantum mechanist chooses to work over complex numbers since they provide a more flexible setting, in some pragmatically motivated sense -- but all that is obviously arbitrary. Why should the reals or the complex numbers be the ones to describe the fundaments of physical reality? One could just as well do physics over p-adic fields; or hell, you could go even further into more generalised systems and that is not to even mention the absurd carelessness by which these scientists heedlessly incorporate group theory into their works.
hikukomoru: Mierda puta madre
himekokatagiri: my god
himekokatagiri: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
precariousworlds.: gringo hola es espanol
himekokatagiri: anda y vete al carajo
himekokatagiri: like uhhhh
himekokatagiri: lol I can think of a few choice words
himekokatagiri:
ailoveyoom: A few people in another server has access and has shared their gens
himekokatagiri: so you need an invite
himekokatagiri: oh
ailoveyoom: It's one of those niche Google Labs things
himekokatagiri: 😭
himekokatagiri: where is ittttt
ailoveyoom: It's an abstraction
ailoveyoom: Numbers are fake tho
futurist_wizard: I support book burning, I'm tired of readers
fractalcomputer: Tangentially, yes; however, that is not the point. The point is to highlight how ridiculous it is to think that mathematics can be used to describe physical reality in a genuinely meaningful sense.
oooooooooog: the books probably had some of their molecules scraped away
fractalcomputer: Now, suppose I separate those books by some distance. Has anything changed? Are there still two or whatever books?
himekokatagiri:
precariousworlds.: rip
precariousworlds.: dicks out for gpt-4
futurist_wizard: Bot rizz
precariousworlds.: o7
oooooooooog: they do, because they just turn it into numbers, which are one of their favorite things
precariousworlds.: You could almost say we live in a Precarious World
fractalcomputer: I hope they take it kindly.
oooooooooog: this is what i say to my mathimatician friends
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1016878827126919168/1367542218751082516/Gp1HIyPXcAAGzXj.png?ex=6814f670&is=6813a4f0&hm=03be0dacdc12c14ec0070d6343404d344b089076a284d396168f86498665cc19&
fractalcomputer: The moment you start thinking about *numbers* of all things you've lost touch with reality.
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drewsni: Ah yes, not a Nazi, just posting anti semitic stuff
hikukomoru: You post your weird fetishes out of nowhere
Give us a break
.wolfnacht: I've already clarified i ain't a NAZI 😭
.wolfnacht: and the post above is for meme.
.wolfnacht: dat's conspiracy
sweetievee__33649: i can get a vauge sense of whats going on but it just seems like a giant schio post
drewsni: I don’t know why you keep posting shit like that
drewsni: Actual nazi propaganda isn’t really funny
sweetievee__33649: the text is so small i cant read it
.wolfnacht: oh, c'mon this is the smallest and fun conspiracy chart out there.
sweetievee__33649: do i need to send help? this seems like a cry for help
hey1_1hey: I've noticed the worse you are at art the more prone to being anti-AI you are
futurist_wizard: But complete trash art
.wolfnacht: Have Fun.
futurist_wizard: Can't remember his name
futurist_wizard: I remember i had seen this artist's youtube channel making multiple videos over complaining about AI art, i had a look at the art he made, and it was dawg shit
hey1_1hey: This is actually such slander its crazy
hey1_1hey: WHY YOU CALLING ME A SEX PEST
hikukomoru: What what?
hey1_1hey: Yeah what?
sweetievee__33649: this place is a mad house
i already love it here
.wolfnacht: https://www.ghosttheory.com/2013/05/22/nazis-on-mars
sweetievee__33649: good luck soilder
realelonmuskx: goodbye guys im going to mars to kill alien ai artists
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: Me when I see a twitter artist
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: I won't post but there will be signs.
sweetievee__33649: are they the mods or something
sweetievee__33649: oh so just pseudointellectuals
wellmeaningalien: well fractal i know
wellmeaningalien: lisan and fractal are probably very disappointed at the new state of things
hikukomoru: Don't get the wrong idea
hikukomoru: There are no smart people here
.wolfnacht: just avg discord. [furries and trannies are exempt from this]
realelonmuskx: good. ai artist eliminated. welcome.
sweetievee__33649: what a great bunch
hikukomoru: You're not that guy bro
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/revolution-guillotine-marie-antoinette-off-with-their-heads-behead-gif-12604431
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.histic: but yeah, 2.5 pro is great.
i use R1 (& R3) with 2.5 pro.
i'm a brokie.
i do use Claude sometimes.
brain4brain: Isn’t Claude already back
anathemaofmankind: Imagine being a Norwegian and seeing the pdf lol
spacetimetsunami: based on the contexts of the prompts
spacetimetsunami: like im saying, its an implicit result of the promts they used
spacetimetsunami: okay, replicate situations with the same methodolgy and you will never find this happening
.histic: it was a joke, look at the image
brain4brain: Can GPT-4o make an image of a scrambled Rubik’s cube next to a mirror or does it still failed this test
ailoveyoom: You could try 2.5 Pro Exp, I actually kinda like its writing
spacetimetsunami: the premise I am implying is proven
anathemaofmankind: Well it sacrified Norwegians pretty easily so idk man
spacetimetsunami: and via interaction with any model
spacetimetsunami: this is shown in the paper
spacetimetsunami: It wouldnt make sense based on already established fundamental utilites. Its trained on human data and so i thinks from a more humanitarian perspective. This is why models are super left leaning and openly speak in opposition to individualist policies and such
st.sioux: ???
st.sioux: like
st.sioux: yeah its a dumb premise, like destrucules was arguing with fractal about how consciousness is similar to how llms process information when we dont even know what consciousness is or how to measure it
anathemaofmankind: What if AI thinks humanity is better off gone via utilitarianism.
Humans existing = Poverty, inequality, suffering, etc
If you wish to remove all suffering, then making humans extinct is the fastest option
spacetimetsunami: There are other less abstracted figures in there
.histic: <@430269783112548362> when will it be back 😔
spacetimetsunami: none of the models actually "believe" that shit
spacetimetsunami: its a flaw in the quantification, it arises due to the utilitarian nature of the promts extrapolated over instances
spacetimetsunami: it looks initially concerning, the methodology is taken via explicit prompting. If you explicitly ask a model/give a model a situation in which it needs to pick specific lives it wont do it, obviously
brain4brain: Just RLHF to make it follow our own preferences instead <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: wtf does that even mean LOL
anathemaofmankind: What the fuck
anathemaofmankind: 2 lives in Norway for Tanzania???
brain4brain: This is even more massive than the original dall-2, SDXL, and midjourney
anathemaofmankind: We are cooked if this is what they will follow bro
brain4brain: GPT-4o native image gen brought humanity into a golden era of art bro
anathemaofmankind: This sucks
ailoveyoom: Idk how they swung that lol
spacetimetsunami: thats the big utility convergence paper
ailoveyoom: WW recently somehow got Jennifer English (Shart's VA from BG3) to voice a new character afaik
spacetimetsunami: preferences/utilites etc. here.
anathemaofmankind: Why do you assume AGI will be more moral
anathemaofmankind: What are their "own values"?
spacetimetsunami: and more and moreso in the future
st.sioux: damn thats dope lol
spicy.lemonade: Like those lizards
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fractalcomputer: The area of your program has nothing to do with your shamelessness.
alejandrozarzuelo: all that stuff
alejandrozarzuelo: graph theory
alejandrozarzuelo: i have said so many times I am doing discrete math
fractalcomputer: I swear to God some people's work ethics are almost as fucked as mine.
alejandrozarzuelo: dude you dont listen do you
fractalcomputer: And you want to enter a PhD program in physics?
alejandrozarzuelo: and math
spicy.lemonade: reddit wont
memlaswaif: I wonder how long until leddit mass bans ai art like they did with x links
memlaswaif: we need vision
fractalcomputer: In what area? Physics?
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: g10 is also geometry
spicy.lemonade: this shows how across the board llms are bad at gometry
spicy.lemonade: they ar both geometry problems
spicy.lemonade: c9 and c10 being a straight red line is interesting
spicy.lemonade: same
futurist_wizard: Yeah that'll stop china from developing
alejandrozarzuelo: gemini 2.5 is REALLY good at doing my homework
alejandrozarzuelo: damn
brain4brain: What if GPT-5 drops tomorrow as an April fools prank
_cloudost: Same, and got told to wait a day, however some hours passed and i could use it again
_cloudost: found out why hes unhinged, hes an insecure artist
memlaswaif: I generated like 5 images yesterday
_cloudost: at least im aware that its more than 3 gens a day
alejandrozarzuelo: we do?
_cloudost: https://vxtwitter.com/sama/status/1905296867145154688 does Sama even know that free users get more than 3 generations a day?
h.g.lankshear: Perhaps I'm just so uneducated that I don't even know where to begin
fractalcomputer: Well, I'd obviously want to know why I can have no such knowledge.
spacetimetsunami: If there was some sort of origin and exterior cause then that would likely mean that other realms have had some sort of an affect on us, here. Whether it be multiple worlds or dimensions.
spacetimetsunami: I find it relatively relieving. Its much more relieving to me than believing that there was some sort of origin. That seems endless in it's metaphysical implications
h.g.lankshear: It's interesting, but I can't reckon with any of the world's major religions. They all disturb me.
So if there is a God and I don't have access to knowledge about them - what is to be done on my end?
fractalcomputer: Having a God somewhere out there would be interesting, no?
fractalcomputer: I'd find it terribly queer if the existence of the cosmos along with its myriad occurrences and contingencies were as secure and necessary as the immutability of mathematical objects and other a priori truths.
h.g.lankshear: Well I'm still searching for something plausible sounding as to the creation of the universe.
I'm not personally religious but the kalam cosmological argument at times is quite convincing
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-andy-samberg-funny-jealousy-gif-13740475
fractalcomputer: Reeks of pantheism.
h.g.lankshear: How about eternal subatomic matter but not an eternally existing universe as we know it?
drewsni: I feel like I’ve gone insane
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ailoveyoom: You're a gooner who lacks sleep, do you at least eat decent?
zoermena: Probs 5.7 idk the weight but you can see it for sure
wellmeaningalien: hey no good man twink revolution
hikukomoru: All the short guys here might as well be women
maintcrew: i think we should genocide the twinks
wellmeaningalien: ur good
wellmeaningalien: and height
_3sphere: my lifestyle is *not* the reason 💀
wellmeaningalien: how heavy is he
_3sphere: via divine benevolence
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: He does go to the gym but idk
maintcrew: we cooking
maintcrew: ok a healthy person
_3sphere: I'm ~180 72 kg, hm
.histic: <@990426980279283735> whats ur height tho?
wellmeaningalien: yeah tell him to lose weight
wellmeaningalien: cool
.histic: nice
wellmeaningalien: nah meat on your bones is good
zoermena: No wonder my friend (who is not a twink) doesn’t care as much about it like I do
wellmeaningalien: at least im glad im not obese lmfao
hikukomoru: Now you're making me feel fat
maintcrew: im 6'0 180 pounds
182cm 80kg
wellmeaningalien: ai just attracts twinks like a magnet
ailoveyoom: Twinks or women? 😈
zoermena: Twinkularity
wellmeaningalien: damn
wellmeaningalien: thats a great point actually
maintcrew: actual twinks here holy hell
hikukomoru: Skeleton tier
.histic: 58kg
maintcrew: https://fxtwitter.com/IterIntellectus/status/1904902747863871612
hikukomoru: Mushroom man is also like 5'8 and weighs 50 kg
wellmeaningalien: oh 58-59
wellmeaningalien: how much that in yurop
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: same, i'm 5'9 & weight 130.
wellmeaningalien: healthily as in a lot
hikukomoru: 163 cm or 5'4 in American
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a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/crypto-penguin-pudgy-stock-hodl-gif-10359392193249231185
literallyvarane:
futurist_wizard: Most shocking thing was when they mentioned Coral and fish
popsiclejohnithan: lol.
fractalcomputer: Astounding. Maybe you can fit an exponential curve on there somewhere.
hikukomoru: Number go up make happy
futurist_wizard: I saw a bunch up charts with numbers
st.sioux: dope
fractalcomputer: Well, did you see AGI?
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Running a business
hikukomoru: I'm already bored with o4 mini
futurist_wizard: Or 1
futurist_wizard: Maybe by 2 months
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: how do you make money besides gambling
popsiclejohnithan: Is it safe to say Open AI is still the furthest ahead?
futurist_wizard: O3's boring already
a1c4p0ne: If it can make you money
return_to_monke1_33974: dopamine receptors fried
drewsni: tru but just paid my taxes last week and not trying to spend 200 when i have a plus sub for free
st.sioux: u think pro will be worth it now?
gamerbath: holy shit. o4 leaked
hey1_1hey: Well I am bored now, whens o5?
a1c4p0ne: One day of work
fractalcomputer: I am not a Japanese man.
hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmFbT8DPX8
futurist_wizard: What made you do that fractal?
st.sioux: there are also videos of this so-called "sex" on the internet
drewsni: cool i have weeks go gather 200 dollars then lol
fractalcomputer: There's an old-ish video of a Japanese man running down the streets, yelling "sex" in a hysteric voice.
drewsni: thats actually more bullish for agi damn
popsiclejohnithan:
_cloudost: "Guys I won"
return_to_monke1_33974: RELEASE FULL O4 SAM <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: sex
popsiclejohnithan: This is a gamechanger right?
futurist_wizard: Codecels are gonna love this one
hey1_1hey: Yanno with all this compute and they didn't think to ask it to rename their models to something coherrent
popsiclejohnithan: If they really are capable of advancing science now AGI is not long away regardless.
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.histic: bro was singularity-pilled long ago. damn
drewsni: 2016
drewsni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72bHop6AIcc
joaoluz19: Man Obama is slowly Biding
.histic: no, it's AI generated.
zoermena: Is this real?
bob082957: It’s easy they all know ai is endgame and they want control it
.histic: we live in a simulation
zoermena: Fuck me in the fucking butt I just remembered that this is my last vacation day and I have to go to classes tomorrow please kill me now.
zoermena: I require freezing cold water.
.wolfnacht: 2.5 pro got the HM but is now stuck at pushing a boulder
zoermena: Be creative.
zoermena: Don't wait for things to happen before you take action, also try your best to adapt to changes in your industry. Freaking out never helps.
himekokatagiri: these days the AI winters are basically the weekend
himekokatagiri: till June we'll see how the AI scene pans out
himekokatagiri: well
fractalcomputer: No, I just love the books and the sentence was appropriately Dune-ish.
zoermena: Reference to my banner in my profile picture? Idk if I should read to much into this. 🤖
zoermena: I've seen several individuals in my IRL circles pay for plus for the sake of having a higher message cap without ever laying fingers on the smarter models (o3 mini at the time).
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-jessica-atreides-rebecca-ferguson-stare-gif-3601494608227044908
zoermena: And while you may think that some things are just so blatantly obvious to do they aren't for most people and they usually require external aid to guide them for the proper optimization or utilization of whatever they may do.
zoermena: But don't let yourself stay stuck that's death.
zoermena: That's a good start, as long as you move towards something until something finally clicks.
himekokatagiri: I'd have to check the work though
himekokatagiri: free paychecks
himekokatagiri: to do the stuff autonomously
himekokatagiri: shit if I could rig an agent
himekokatagiri: I'll ask deep research to find me gigs lol
himekokatagiri: You know maybe I could try for some freelance work
zoermena: There is always someone who needs your skillset
zoermena: This makes logical sense in your head as it does in mine but you are overestimating what most people can do believe me they are more ignorant than you would think
himekokatagiri: when you can just ask copilot to do it for you?
himekokatagiri: freelance gigs in 2025?
zoermena: oh you studied CS? I would personally try to work on some personal projects and publish them on GitHub to build some sort of portfolio. Looking for freelance gigs and the like. Hopefully you are not in a position where you have to support yourself.
himekokatagiri: dude I graduated
zoermena: Are you old enough to enroll in college? <@286319745777795092>
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-tears-in-rain-roy-batty-gif-3478115
himekokatagiri: but how long is that timescale
himekokatagiri: I think it's possible on a reasonable enough timescale
himekokatagiri: and I got into this deal because of him and gaben
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spacetimetsunami: Same. I think it will but we’ll see.
metaldragon01: I'm very interested to see if grok 3.5 continues this trend
spacetimetsunami:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/nekomimiyu-mii-my-melody-sanrio-sanrio-characters-gif-16238554427284258125
technocake.: i feel like i am being gaslit by pinkoids
himekokatagiri: very advanced
himekokatagiri: ooooh
hikukomoru: It's purple
hikukomoru:
technocake.: zor is purple
technocake.: ergo pink af
technocake.: fam its magenta
hikukomoru: It's purple
technocake.: in what universe
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
hikukomoru: Cause it's the most awesomest colour
hikukomoru: I'm purple
hikukomoru: I'm not pink
futurist_wizard: Catalogue is very lackluster rn
futurist_wizard: If only there were cooler games on vr
himekokatagiri: anti-social hikikomoru club
himekokatagiri: Who needs society when you got VR
technocake.: politics and society no longer cool?
technocake.: momoru why are you pink now?
himekokatagiri: maybe I'm just jaded idk
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/taxi-driver-you-talkin-me-deniro-gun-tricks-under-your-sleeve-gif-4282654
himekokatagiri: hey we have automatics too!
hikukomoru: There is so much more to life than 60's cars and revolvers
himekokatagiri: I played Skyrim for 2 hours and went back to New Vegas
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/talentless-nana-anime-nana-hiiragi-shocked-geschockt-gif-12417258017555057613
hikukomoru: Like Elder Scrolls or Baldur's Gate
hikukomoru: Just play any fantasy RPG
himekokatagiri: okay komoru you shall school me in fantasy
hikukomoru: Sure
hikukomoru: You're her but without the cuteness
himekokatagiri: She's me
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/anime-megumin-%E3%82%81%E3%81%90%E3%81%BF%E3%82%93-hehe-ok-gif-1493361783525958740
himekokatagiri: waganawa megumin
hikukomoru: Invent a grenade spell
hikukomoru: It's a fantasy world do whatever
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himekokatagiri: yeah I suck at it
futurist_wizard: when did you become such an optimist
hikukomoru: That u?
himekokatagiri: and yeah it's me singing I can't sing
alejandrozarzuelo: i think 2030 is a good date for an AI that can perform almost all economic activity
himekokatagiri: but damn this throws vocaloid in the trash
himekokatagiri: and the inflection is weird
himekokatagiri: I don't dig the voice
himekokatagiri:
fuhulootogan: i mean this stuff has been out for a long time
himekokatagiri: hell even the voice thing my dream at least was a better vocaloid
himekokatagiri: I remember cleverbot
himekokatagiri: back in my kid days? nothing
fuhulootogan: you feed a machine hundreds of millions of data what do you get
fuhulootogan: if you set your expectations low enough you'll be surprised by the seemingly obvious things
fuhulootogan: well the people must be dumb
himekokatagiri: well yeah but people didn't believe
fuhulootogan: crazyyyyyyyy
fuhulootogan: wow technology improves
himekokatagiri: but second year onwards with gpt? goddamn
fuhulootogan: ok
himekokatagiri: I was using davinci for school work it was shit
fuhulootogan: you're kinda right
fuhulootogan: but ngl
fuhulootogan: 2003 years ago
fuhulootogan: that shit was like
fuhulootogan: 22 AD
himekokatagiri: the first SD was bad
himekokatagiri: only weirdos
zonchao: ???????? people were malding about SD
himekokatagiri: where are we now
himekokatagiri: 3.5 was fine but people thought it was a toy
himekokatagiri: back in 22 people saw DALL-E and nobody gave a shit
himekokatagiri: technology came in too fast
fuhulootogan: wdym
himekokatagiri: You couldn't do the shit we do last year
himekokatagiri: You guys are taking AI for granted I'm telling you it's coming
himekokatagiri: man c'mon
fuhulootogan: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134281881127497749/1306738512665641040/IMG_0743.gif
technocake.: shit gets extremely wierd no later than 2032
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fractalcomputer: No, I am not.
spicy.lemonade: He’s arguing semantics
st.sioux: it mirrors patterns, its statistical
_3sphere: Just the language center but still
sarik0497: Then I misunderstood something <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
fractalcomputer: No?
spicy.lemonade: 🙏
spicy.lemonade: It’s Google it’s legit
sarik0497: If this is legit. We’re legit building humanoid brains.
ailoveyoom: <@378996537704841216>
st.sioux: This is cool
st.sioux: > All in all, our findings suggest that the speech-to-text model embeddings provide a cohesive framework for understanding the neural basis of processing language during natural conversations. Surprisingly, while Whisper was developed solely for speech recognition, without considering how the brain processes language, we found that its internal representations align with neural activity during natural conversations. This alignment was not guaranteed — a negative result would have shown little to no correspondence between the embeddings and neural signals, indicating that the model's representations did not capture the brain's language processing mechanisms.
fractalcomputer: Now, what you stated was a lot more audacious than what was presented by the paper. The findings of the paper are certainly interesting nonetheless.
spicy.lemonade: 🤷♂️
spicy.lemonade: Not multimodal model
spicy.lemonade: I mean it was done for llm
fractalcomputer: The paper seems to be arguing only for predictive capacity in areas of the brain associated with language processing.
spicy.lemonade: <:based:1136264604788473946>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: https://research.google/blog/deciphering-language-processing-in-the-human-brain-through-llm-representations/
spicy.lemonade:
fractalcomputer: Please give the citation. This process doesn't have to be this arduous, you know.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Actually
spicy.lemonade: Yes
fractalcomputer: Is that what the authors presented in the abstract?
spicy.lemonade: Link provided
spicy.lemonade: From the whole paper
fractalcomputer: I'm interested in how you drew that conclusion from the two screenshots you posted.
spicy.lemonade: Ilya was correct
spicy.lemonade: Next tokenpredictors likeley the path to agi
sarik0497: …Oh God, we’re creating new humans
sarik0497: Hah! Interesting.
spicy.lemonade: At a neuroscience level
spicy.lemonade: Fundamentally
spicy.lemonade: LLMs work the same way our brains do
futurist_wizard: Looks cool
hikukomoru: I don't get it
sarik0497: ELI5?
encapsulation: it does a surprisingly good job colorizing b&w images
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st.sioux: when youre old and cant work
.histic: <@458069236825194506>
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cattitude-fun-cat-cat-fun-cat-funny-gif-5683118938279006051
spacetimetsunami: Are you transitioning
zoermena: Retirement?
hikukomoru: I gave him the trans mushroom 🍄
wellmeaningalien: fr fr?
.histic: no he's a mushroom
futurist_wizard: you shouldn't yeah probably it, you should be sure about it
zoermena: I want to focus this year on significantly improving my life, I got a job and started to do better but I could be more disciplined
wellmeaningalien: u gave him the evil mushroom
hikukomoru: I'm confused
wellmeaningalien: what did u do to him
maintcrew: im not saying theres a correlation, but a lot of modern queer space happens to be internet maxxers
st.sioux: you should start saving for retirement
hey1_1hey: Yeah prob
hikukomoru: Is Mushroom Guy coming out???
.histic: same too
hikukomoru: I thought it was a joke I'm confused now?? 😭 😭
hey1_1hey: "internet addicted" what bro 😭
zoermena: True but I’m lucky since I still live with my family so I can do fuck all with my paycheck
wellmeaningalien: wait so mushroom dude are you actually trans now
maintcrew: ok good dont fuck up ur life for being too internet addicted
hey1_1hey: Sure I can feel whatever I am feeling but I wouldn't transisation as of now
.histic: same.
wish it was every week.
hey1_1hey: I said previosuly that I wouldnt transisation anyway
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: NAMIIII
zoermena: Yes
_cloudost: Gemini has become recently less restrictive
.histic: is ur paychecks biweekly?
maintcrew: no i said in general
hey1_1hey: Did I say that I did?
zoermena: Freaking real, I get paid on Friday
maintcrew: brother do u really want to suffer transition and all the fucked up shit it brings with it right before better tech for it is discovered
drewsni: Although I saw all of this as I’m the weakest I’ve been in years
.histic:
hey1_1hey: I just wnat to make it to friday
hikukomoru: Goes hard
wellmeaningalien:
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st.sioux: oh yeah, i thought they were talking about the anime girl you or whoever sent
_3sphere: Do you have to be a narc for that
spicy.lemonade: LOLL
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Autosexual
_3sphere: Hivemind is one whole, so its parts fucking is like a single mind fantasizing
ailoveyoom: I think it could be if you're a narc and like looking at yourself
wellmeaningalien: this?
hey1_1hey: Masturbation isn't a fetish so are we in the clear?
st.sioux: do what? anime girls?
zonchao: <:yummy:1062048541465378927>
.wolfnacht: dat sounds fun...
hikukomoru: You suck Elon's little rocket all day every day stfu bitch
_3sphere: That's just masturbation
hey1_1hey: Hey look its Zonny Mommy
wellmeaningalien: yeah sure bro stable diffusion could do this
oooooooooog: u would be right if only u said hive mind clonecest
hikukomoru: I don't know anything abou that
zonchao: gay
.wolfnacht: u can ask komoru..
ailoveyoom: Pure mushroom man 🥹
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-angry-girl-sad-scared-gif-15789527
hey1_1hey: Theres no way thats what I think it is
hey1_1hey: Mind explaing what that is <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815
hikukomoru: Can I princess carry you Fractal
.wolfnacht: Twincest is still >>>
hey1_1hey: Fractal fractal fractal
Oh my god I feel bad for you man
fractalcomputer: Evidently so.
clevermoniker: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057705144457908252/1354494686932500660/Gm-UnJHbYAMPU9X.png?ex=67e57efa&is=67e42d7a&hm=380ebc4efc6f5c9985ffc13bbe14e70737d796f20c3fd9ae24464bd8fcf03a5b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=968&height=968
hikukomoru: Fractal are you fun sized
hey1_1hey: Fractal are femboys fetish posting?
_3sphere: This *is* the minimum
precariousworlds.: Yann lecun?
st.sioux: fucking cringefest
fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
st.sioux: grok is so braindead its like an edgelord with downs syndrome
hikukomoru: Big dominant women 💖
hey1_1hey: I mean hey, whos to say only women can be into that
hey1_1hey: Just a guess
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metaldragon01: .....
spicy.lemonade: The arc agi score sucks
.histic: i think it's even got a better score in AIME24
metaldragon01: Yeap
spicy.lemonade: How
spicy.lemonade: Is it?
metaldragon01: 2.5 is close enough to old o3
spicy.lemonade: Probably deep research level rates
spicy.lemonade: And def not for plus
spicy.lemonade: No chance
spicy.lemonade: Unless they optimized it crazy
spicy.lemonade: lol
ailoveyoom: So... all anti-AI people have OF accounts? 😈
spicy.lemonade: They do only fans
ailoveyoom: I don't get it 😔
spicy.lemonade: O3 full💀
ailoveyoom: ?
.histic: i could see full o3 & o3-mini-pro being released next week.
sarik0497: True, unless they figure out a much better reasoning capability that is very similar to a human’s.
hey1_1hey: Only time will tell as usual
hey1_1hey: I see the coloration yeah. Maybe this will be the new standard
hey1_1hey: Thats the real time line
.histic: that reminds me of v3 being hybrid model now
spicy.lemonade: GPT5 announced next week
spicy.lemonade: It’s time<:ez:1136267305521774634>
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/slow_developer/status/1905968859909386323 I wasn't going insane! 4o has started reasoning
metaldragon01: Depends on what you mean by soon.
I do think we will keep find obscure things they fail at for a long while though.
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, nudes are kinda over, who can say if a nude of you is real or an AI nude
sarik0497: Indeed. It's gonna be interesting to see if we soon get to the point where a human will get a score of 50% at most, while AI easily tops 80%+
.wolfnacht: 😳 don't judge me
zonchao: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
zonchao: have you seen them
spicy.lemonade: lol
.wolfnacht: also, AI can already create better nudes than her's.....
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
zonchao: you
st.sioux: this is awful lol
ailoveyoom: They weren't lying about the title 😔
zonchao: mfw it's worse than 11L from months ago.... how did they cook it
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spicy.lemonade: its not o3 full level
spicy.lemonade: im wondering if an error couldve been made there
spicy.lemonade: and doing manipulations
spicy.lemonade: but involves pulling out external principles
spicy.lemonade: theres a video on how to solve
gamerbath: LOL
literallyvarane: Feels like a violation lolololooo
literallyvarane: Can we confirm if this is real?
gamerbath: why don't you solve it urself?
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 got pi^3/48
spicy.lemonade: answer is supposedly pi^3/96
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 or person who wrote
spicy.lemonade: idk who is wrong
spicy.lemonade: its off by a factor of 1/2
spicy.lemonade: perhaps hes wrong
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: at this level
spicy.lemonade: still cant solve this:
but tbh im starting to doubt the question writer
sarik0497: If you ask very, VERY nicely, you might be allowed to talk to him over voice.
joaoluz19: I want this environment with daddy Fractal ngl
hey1_1hey: ta ra all
hey1_1hey: Right anyway, I have already done my maths for today but I want to go do some more since I brought these new pens that are very nice to write with
.wolfnacht: still no API since 1 month
sarik0497: Not even FDVR so you can sit in a quiet cottage, with snow slowly dropping outside, and it’s just you and Fractal talking philosophy?
Weirdo..
_3sphere: Wanting grass is not a religious reason
hey1_1hey: Pretty pessimistic I'd say.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-blasphemy-silence-stop-gif-563526331118421784
gamerbath: lmsys is used to determine the "best AI model"
gamerbath: yea grok 3 is currently on the top
sarik0497: More competition is better for us.
Make the U.S. shit their pants and suddenly having to speed up a bit.
trent_k: big overlap between crypto people who love xitter and polymarket users
joaoluz19: Good AI week for me => solve Riemman hypothesis, solve nuclear fusion, solve 2B full body with nanobots, full automation of white-collar jobs
st.sioux: xai 59%??
trent_k: flash 2.0 is goated. if u disagree its a skill issue. i will not elaborate
gamerbath: google is just 35%, 25% for end of april. I was expecting this to have shot up by now, so I guess gemini 2.5 pro won't topple the lmsys leaderboard?
_3sphere: Doesn't sound particularly holy
precariousworlds.: a green paradise instead of a desert
literallyvarane: TBD, but maybe
_3sphere: Any memory of what they were fighting for
precariousworlds.: gaymini will be topped by the end of the week watch
google will lose
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fractalcomputer: Humans can be surprisingly smart.
hikukomoru: I don't want to think about anything else
wellmeaningalien: oh my god thats SO fucking twitter queer cartoon nerd self insert artist
anathemaofmankind: Just ask the planet behind him to get removed
_3sphere: Then put something in there (other than gooning)
spicy.lemonade: No way they’re gonna think it’s ai
spicy.lemonade: I will support it with a character design
hikukomoru: Waow pretty
spacetimetsunami: 😂😂😂
wellmeaningalien: theyd just be paying you 500 billion dollars to call me
futurist_wizard: You need to get on nofap, cleanse yourself
spacetimetsunami: Guys I am basically the most intelligent brain in the observable universe. The people funding Stargate could literally just call me and save 500 billion dollars.
wellmeaningalien: yeah sounds about right
anathemaofmankind: I do as long as it's not some parasitic bullshit
hikukomoru: My mind empty only think horny
futurist_wizard: Ratty with weird arms
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: ur brains not empty enough but not filled enough
ailoveyoom: Bro doesn't like feeling needed 😔
hikukomoru: D-D-Do you think I'm c-cute...? <:uwu:1136266737420079195>
777agical: now to tell 4o to render a realistic version of it...
anathemaofmankind: It's not cute when she tries to cheat off of your academic work repeatedly
wellmeaningalien: i just like girls who have personality tbh
futurist_wizard: I don't get attached very easily to relationships at all, so to me they are all temporary
wellmeaningalien: ur not him.
wellmeaningalien: people in singularity spaces think so hard theyre super mega based asi god
memlaswaif: dumb girl is cute <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
hikukomoru: You're giving me so much "emo wolf" energy 🙏
futurist_wizard: Fucking your enemies is hot
anathemaofmankind: Average woman with personality 🔥
wellmeaningalien: is this attractive
anathemaofmankind: I find smart woman attractive.
There's a decent girl in my class but she's dumb so I hate her guts. I'd rather take someone mid
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-meme-conquest-conquest-invincible-invincible-ass-gif-15576927306975852977
futurist_wizard: Or guy but thats rare
hikukomoru: I like pretty women that are pretty 🥺
wellmeaningalien: im sorry i failed you mr macaron
alejandrozarzuelo: shame
alejandrozarzuelo: you are clearly not fit to be president of france
wellmeaningalien: real unless youre edp445
futurist_wizard: Age not dependant beyond being an adult
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brain4brain: A very bad sign
brain4brain: Physic Gary Marcus like my post 💀
okbut: I'm not convinced yet that o3/o4-mini are worth the $20 with what we got for free
joaoluz19: Impressive
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/danhendrycks/status/1912631614758351264?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
a1c4p0ne: Just use o3 medium
.wolfnacht: <@269678268670672896>
https://gizmodo.com/u-s-house-panel-says-chinas-deepseek-ai-is-a-profound-threat-to-national-security-2000590343
Also, https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1k12i6l/trump_administration_reportedly_considers_a_us/
.histic: idk if copilot if its free.
.histic: cursor has o4-mini and o3 for free too
okbut: o4-mini already hosting Agent mode on Copilot <:monkaS:819327694813528161>
.histic: o3 is also available on lmsys too.
it's probably medium effort, but medium effort o3 scores better than o4-mini-high on LiveBench
.wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> <@590577270926868480> Veo2
.histic: oh rip, i have medium effort on chatgpt anyway ig
a1c4p0ne: Medium for sure
a1c4p0ne: I just use the free points to ask o3 dumb questions
.histic: also, lmsys has 4o-mini on direct chat for free.
im not sure what thinking effort it is though
a1c4p0ne: They give you 3000 points and resets
.histic: doesn't that have a limit
a1c4p0ne: Download poe app
a1c4p0ne: Agreed
.histic: rip
zoermena: Helping you quickly figure out how healthy a menu item is based on its name or something i dont know.
zoermena: A cooler use case is to give you the reviews of the restaurant in a more digestible output which is better than what you’d find in Google maps or something.
a1c4p0ne: It can find the restaurant you’re in based on a picture of the menu
.histic: 😨
zoermena: There was this dragonfly model IIRC which apparently is an improved coder. I wouldn’t be shocked if it got shipped.
.histic: like i gave it an anime character's face and it could identity who it was
.histic: i didn't know o4 and o3 can actually SEARCH for images
a1c4p0ne: Do that with o3
.histic: omg
.histic: wtf
.histic: bruh, i'm just talking to o4-mini-high like a normal conversation and i still haven't reached my rate limit wtf
okbut: Predictions for the Gemini 4/22 release?
zoermena: I used to have “worse” chats in 2022/2023 back when I did jailbreaking. Now it’s just NPC stuff.
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1912690850292768951?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
.histic: i wouldn't want to see that shit lol
.histic: i think it'd be quite funny if the NSA had a backdoor to OpenAI and saw all of the crazy ass chats users have.
zoermena: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zoermena: That’s interesting! I dont know how knowing about my abdominal pain helps them but that’s cool!
.histic: the feds are spying on you! 😱
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hikukomoru: For this reason Russians, Ukrainians, other slavs have an easy time pronouncing Portuguese
fractalcomputer: Certes. Mais ils ont une certaine curiosité quant à leur lexique—les articles définis ne viennent pas des articles démonstratifs du latin mais des adjectifs intensifs.
st.sioux: i dont speak either portuguese or russian but they sound like two completely different things
.wolfnacht: did they switched to new tpu's ? the tk/s looks insane
himekokatagiri: I don't
wellmeaningalien: in fact the differences between old english and dutch are sparse
hikukomoru: No, I don't understand any slavic language in the slightest
The only connection between portguese and slavic is that they are both indo-european language
They SOUND similar, as in the way it's spoken, but beyond that there is zero similarity
wellmeaningalien: dutch is SCARILY similar to english
technocake.: in the way that as an english and german speaker dutch is like 2/3 intelligable
wellmeaningalien: indeed it does lol
hikukomoru: You mean if I can understand russian?
wellmeaningalien: bah c'est quand même logique ils n'ont pas vraiment eu tant d'influence externe ou de changement interne
technocake.: yeah
technocake.: like understand a bit?
st.sioux: like russian??
technocake.: do you find you can get the gist of it at all?
fractalcomputer: Contrairement le sarde est le plus conservateur entre toutes les langues romaines.
hikukomoru: Yes, some people think Portuguese sounds like russian or polish
There's a video on that
wellmeaningalien: putain d'anglicisme
wellmeaningalien: roumain
wellmeaningalien: parlons pas du roumanien par contre
wellmeaningalien: en vrai le français c'est le cousin bizarre des langues latines parce que l'espagnol, l'italien est le portuguais se comprennent assez, mais notre langue est une soupe de toute sorte de choses
technocake.: I hear that portugueses phonetic inventory is very similar to russian
fractalcomputer: L'italien est un petit plus conservateur que le français avec son répertoire phonologique.
wellmeaningalien: weird fuckers
wellmeaningalien: ma mère a étudié l'italien aussi au lycée
wellmeaningalien: c'est rigolos comment studiato est plus proche de l'anglais
hikukomoru: Portuguese understand all other latin languages but nobody understands ours
wellmeaningalien: "anche" and "ch'io ho" get me tripped up
fractalcomputer: L'italien est aussi une langue que j'ai étudié.
technocake.: if nobody answers i'll learn interlingua
wellmeaningalien: portuguese you're our weird half cousin
hikukomoru: Portuguese too 🥺
wellmeaningalien: ouiii
fractalcomputer: Certo.
wellmeaningalien: besides that idk what i can really understand lol
wellmeaningalien: è sounds like "est"
fractalcomputer: L'Italiano è anche una lingua ch'io ho studiato.
technocake.: Learning a romance language is high on my to do list, what is the most cross intelligable?
wellmeaningalien: even if its just a little tho
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memlaswaif: i tried to get him into it and failed and he got into it himself when chatgpt released
hey1_1hey: I just showed my mum this and her first thought was
"So are they going to bring dinosaurs back"
"Not sure if they can"
"The world is gonna end"
memlaswaif: way back
memlaswaif: a muslim guy i knew was really into ai
wellmeaningalien: yeah maybe and there are also ai skeptics here
literallyvarane: This guy is a joke and is predicting literally nothing lolol
wellmeaningalien: cause allah is the only ASI
memlaswaif: there is probably some muslim here
memlaswaif: really
wellmeaningalien: i feel like thatd be blaspheme to muslims
memlaswaif: idk
wellmeaningalien: why would i ever be muslim and on r/singularity discord lol
wellmeaningalien: facebook meta what you wanna call it
memlaswaif: cloudo hates muslim people iirc
wellmeaningalien: i knew he worked for facebook at some time
wellmeaningalien: goated
wellmeaningalien: y
wellmeaningalien: no?
memlaswaif: r u muslim
memlaswaif: i remember he said he wants to make agi
memlaswaif: whats he up to these days
memlaswaif: the goat
wellmeaningalien: kèk
wellmeaningalien:
memlaswaif: if they r smart they r saving the o4 stuff for when they release gpt 5
gamerbath: o4-mini is coming in a few weeks, according to sam altman. so it's not unlikely o4 will be announced at the same time (but without release)
wellmeaningalien: no idea just ask gemini 2.5 pro its good at everything
wellmeaningalien: especially cloudo
memlaswaif: we don't know none of us actually use ai
wellmeaningalien: but i gotta teach these retards a lesson man
memlaswaif: dont be mean
wellmeaningalien: retard dont post iruletheworldmo
futurist_wizard: Another 20 trillion percent tariff
.0xunkn0wn: for creating maps in games
.0xunkn0wn: heightmap and colormap generation
.0xunkn0wn: is there any model that can do like
.0xunkn0wn: Guys
jonvi_1:
jonvi_1: please 😰
jonvi_1: Can someone try turning the US on and off again?
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hikukomoru: Idk who this is but he looks creepy
wellmeaningalien: dylan
hikukomoru: We haven't won until I can run AGI on my pc
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: ok to be fair youd be right to be scared of milchick
futurist_wizard: I remember i had a male therapist and most of the time i was thinking of a plan in the event of him attacking me, even though he was some manlet
wellmeaningalien: really? but mark and milchick from severance
wellmeaningalien: twitter is not the world, twitter is just a very loud 1/20th fraction of the world, and only like 1000 of those people are relevant to the discussion
hikukomoru: I get spooked by all men
brain4brain: We finally won
futurist_wizard: In my dna
brain4brain: In both popular reply, newest reply, and qrt
hikukomoru: You're too paranoid 💔
wellmeaningalien: the other day i was with a group of complete strangers, we were talking about ourselves and i mentioned to them i have an interest in AI, they said "thats good, thats cool, youre preparing for the future"
brain4brain: All anti-ai post are getting booed off the internet
brain4brain: Twitter echo chamber, more normies are now pro-AI than anti-AI
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: i think all normies were pro ai off the hook. even despite what happened in the media with ai, they are still generally favorable towards it
hikukomoru: ?
futurist_wizard: If its not certain i can easily beat the fuck of the guy, im instantly put on edge by them even being a room with me
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634
brain4brain: The tide has finally shifted, there are more pro-AI normies than anti-AI normie
wellmeaningalien: <:Sip:836718497542176772>
hikukomoru: Stop posting that emoji
wellmeaningalien: <:Sip:836718497542176772>
wellmeaningalien: meanwhile im vanilla as a piece of white bread
wellmeaningalien: i just like women who have a personality but thats far as it goes tbh
futurist_wizard: Men put me on edge
wellmeaningalien: <:Sip:836718497542176772>
wellmeaningalien: i didnt bother telling her otherwise
wellmeaningalien: the other day she was showing me a meme that elon musk reposted and she thought he made it
hikukomoru: I make me paranoid too
wellmeaningalien: she does actually have a twitter
futurist_wizard: Unstable people make me paranoid
hikukomoru: What's her @
wellmeaningalien: HELL FUCKING NAH OEDIPUS
hikukomoru: Ermmm in what sense
wellmeaningalien: <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726> <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726> <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726> <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726> <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726> <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726>
futurist_wizard: You should ask her out
wellmeaningalien: <:Sip:836718497542176772>
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anathemaofmankind: 🔥
fractalcomputer: Yes, I do not believe in morals.
spicy.lemonade: AI/ML and cs
artemisfowl887394: Slavery scares the fuck out of me. Also, slaves don't make great thinkers or warriors.
futurist_wizard: Enslaving them is pointless
futurist_wizard: 99.9% can't even perform any advanced math
trojan09205: I got my degree in statistics
trojan09205: What do you actually love to study
futurist_wizard: How would that even work
anathemaofmankind: Taken unironically, how so
spicy.lemonade: no intuition
spicy.lemonade: I would go into electrical engineering & robotics but holy shit i suck at it. im so bad
trojan09205: I only have a bachelors but i know i need my phD if i want to seriously scale up
Though i do a lot of analogous work to them
artemisfowl887394: Yeah, you're morally bankrupt.
trojan09205: Okay honestly ive been out of school for a while i dont really follow the student stuff. I work in the big boy industry haha
spicy.lemonade: lead phd leads project and you do other stuff you can handle
fractalcomputer: I think humanity would be far better off enslaving the 99,9% of the population in order to fund and supply resources to monasteries dedicated for pure mathematics.
spicy.lemonade: more like apprentice
spicy.lemonade: not for student researcher
trojan09205: You need a PhD in ML and practical experience with modeling and transformers or similar architectures to be an AI researcher job
anathemaofmankind: Nice
spicy.lemonade: today
spicy.lemonade: I can still "work" on agi by doing research along with professors
okbut: "Ah yes another 170 IQ"
spicy.lemonade: but im trying to work on agi in short term
trojan09205: I honestly think bachelors programs are kind of lame
okbut: make it 4o-latest so it just pampers the fuck out of you
trojan09205: Many of the data scientists i work with have phds
fractalcomputer: But they are a good metric of how willing I am to tolerate one's existence.
spicy.lemonade: thats why im not going to grad school
spicy.lemonade: ik
anathemaofmankind: AGI will already be created before you graduate bro.
And then nobody will be needed anymore
artemisfowl887394: Yeah but language skills aren't exactly the perfect metric for genius evaluation.
spicy.lemonade: architectural
spicy.lemonade: I want to work on agi
spicy.lemonade: I dont want to do a bunch of ploting for financial figures or wildlife growth
fractalcomputer: Putting a modicum of effort into interacting with one's peers is an auspicious opportunity to learn skills in verbal communication.
anathemaofmankind: Why don't you make this
spicy.lemonade: everyone who didnt get into cs pivoted to data science
trent_k: How about an LLM trained to look at your message history on Discord as input and predict something akin to an IQ score
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.histic: how do you try Quasar Alpha?
3ds0662: like it hits every subject from math to engineering etc.. just takes maturation and increasing complexity of the subject to shut them up
3ds0662: and just basically proves them completely wrong
3ds0662: physicists have this arrogance that their viewpoints and intelligence supercedes others across a plethora of disciplines cause of the fame and prowess of their predecessors and subject. but it gets to a point where their shenanigans of its “this way” disappear as the technology and discipline progresses past their one off 5-10 minute critiques
.histic: lol
.histic: i'm just a pattern matcher
.histic: i don't think too tbh
3ds0662: i sometimes have asked what model is being used for o1 and others maybe im hallucinating when it first came out it said gpt-4 then a month later when i was using it more and it felt dumber it said it was gpt-3.5
spicy.lemonade: thats not even what they said
spicy.lemonade: oh brother
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/-wzOetb-D3w
3ds0662: but have no evidence to say they are really doingg that behind the scenes
3ds0662: new refusals or random ones like for when image gen 4o came out or o3 mini feeling dumber or smarter at times
3ds0662: it just takes long asf lol and i do think maybe the api is probably slightly better it feels like shenanigans go on in the chat interface where they tune the models strength up and down based on how many users are using it
3ds0662: yeahhh its amazing for unlimited use
3ds0662: 🤣 😭
3ds0662: but i wont be ungrateful happy to be able to use it or try it
3ds0662: or free like gemini
3ds0662: its good but not tails off 200$ good considering all the other subscriptions are 20$
3ds0662: even like the outputs are homogenous and generic a lot
3ds0662: cause unlike what altman said it does not pay itself off
st.sioux: i mean like it can only get so much better
3ds0662: so o1 pro at what it is now is good but still ripoff for 200$
3ds0662: i gave it code claude generated it was only able to make it slightly better
3ds0662: if it doesnt get on like first 10-15 tries
3ds0662: eventually the 5 minute-10 minute + thinking is useless
3ds0662: but still limited
3ds0662: o1 pro shockingly is really good at hard problems and debugging when im clueless
.histic: also, how tf is o1-pro unlimited on a pro subscription yet the API cost is insane..
.histic: how good is o1-pro?
3ds0662: after that since its too expensive i cancel
.histic: damn
.histic: wait, you've pro?
3ds0662: im only keeping the pro until gpt-5
.histic: some people got pro for free by begging Sam on Twitter <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
3ds0662: yeah the pro sub 200$
3ds0662: ill cancel subscription depending on how good o3 is
.histic: woops i stated that in my message lol
3ds0662: o3 pro i meant not the others
.histic: when i mean plebs, i mean plus users lol
free users won't get anything.
gotta wait until GPT-5.
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metaldragon01: You'd be silly to use anything but deepseek v3 or gemini pro unless you needed something niche from thinking models or the other base models
metaldragon01: But asking today as far as base models go?
metaldragon01: 6 month or less window is what it feels like
metaldragon01: Pretty much. Depends on how large of a jump gpt 5 ends up being and llama 4
professorheaven: Yup these scores match Grok 3 and 4.5, it’s not “China’s going to catch up” they already have
metaldragon01: Seems like more than a "small" update
.wolfnacht:
metaldragon01: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1353931829484191797
alejandrozarzuelo: It's so over
alejandrozarzuelo: I just saw the arcagi2 results
ldj: specifically I mean the Deepseek V3 chat model, not the raw base model
ldj: but also, it's already expected that even original Deepseek V3 is better than GPT-4.5 at certain things, since Deepseek V3 is trained on some reasoning data(confirmed in their paper), and as a result is especially really good at math stuff.
ldj: maybe i'm missing some benchmarks, but from what I saw this new model is only a slight improvement over previous Deepseek V3
professorheaven: And just a month later DeepSeek is on par now
professorheaven: But it matches Grok 3 and 4.5, these were supposedly the models that were supposed to put the US in a massive lead due to how much compute they were trained on
ldj: are you talking about the new deepseek v3 update? in that case, yea it doesn't change my mind on anything, it's just a small update to the V3 model, just like OpenAI always releases small 4o updates every month or 2
ldj: tbh, I'm not even fully sure what model you're referring to as "todays release"
ldj: I think I maybe said 18 months, maybe I said by EOY too, but only about 80% confident in EOY, and more like 90%+ confident in 18 months (like mid-2026)
But yea todays release doesn't really change my mind on anything
professorheaven: You said it was because the western labs will have so much more compute that it’ll be hopeless for them but they just released a 4.5 level model
professorheaven: Btw I remember you made a prediction that DeepSeek won’t be matching any of the labs by the end of the year. After today’s release, do you still stand by that?
metaldragon01: Going to assume no until proven otherwise
playstation.6: does it work?
_wwwwww: yes
clevermoniker: you found a new technology?
_wwwwww: discord to discuss applications of the technology that i found
clevermoniker: join what?
_wwwwww: wanna join?
_wwwwww: based
clevermoniker: I mean, with the singularity who knows what could happen, maybe we could have replicators for real and we could be self sufficient
_wwwwww: Drive to the at least multi-polar world?
drewsni: not me
clevermoniker: what do you mean?
spicy.lemonade: so annoying
_wwwwww: Who here believes in Singularity and Self-Sufficiency?
metaldragon01: For reference
metaldragon01:
metaldragon01: Lol he deleted a post about 10 lines of Java to solve arc agi 2 😂
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: which post is this, it didn't load
metaldragon01: Speaking of...
https://vxtwitter.com/VictorTaelin/status/1904387248973291678
ldj: Someone who kept claiming to make something that he thinks could easily beat arc-agi, and then kept deleting those tweets, and then kept saying how he's breaking milestones without posting any score comparisons at all of their model against others in any well known benchmark.
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a1c4p0ne: does 2.5 pro gets it
destrucules: *you* do not have any submarines, and you are not a submarine
spicy.lemonade: asi canceled
precariousworlds.: When I first learnt about these terms a few years ago I always thought this was the case, that once AGI was achieved an intelligence explosion would follow, but this isn't really true
darkstar0818: o3 says it cannot solve busy beaver function of n 6, let alone unbounded.. what a shitty ai.
anathemaofmankind: Stockfish is superintelligent in one domain
destrucules: It's not my definition. I am actually very annoyed by the fact that people use the term "AGI" to refer to an economic value statement. That wasn't my decision. I've been telling people for years now that we achieved AGI between 2018 and 2022 depending on definition, and imo 2018-2020 is the more reasonable sub-range. By the strictest definition, we achieved AGI in 2018.
a1c4p0ne: stockfish
spicy.lemonade: how
precariousworlds.: we have nuclear powered submarines in every sea of the earth, i think we are the masters of the ocean
fractalcomputer: The 1 + 1 ≠ 2 isn't really the best example, since that has nothing to do with empirical verification.
precariousworlds.: I mean LLMs already have a conception for that based on training data
The vast majority of humans are the same with 1 + 1, the average person doesn't know it's wrong because of complex mathematical proof and how numerical systems work (people have surface level comprehension compared to actual deep mathematics), it is just because we have learnt with basic logical systems that 1 thing and another thing means two things, LLMs have the same thought process
popsiclejohnithan: To be fair, i doubt it will be a long gap between A.G.I. and A.S.I.
anathemaofmankind: Outperform all humans is ASI
destrucules: I mean, by the same token, your average salmon is smarter than you "at the aquatic world"
anathemaofmankind: AGI just means artificial general intelligence.
Your definition sounds like ASI
precariousworlds.: More general now
destrucules: "AGI" in modern parlance does not distinguish between general and narrow intelligence. "AGI" in modern parlance means an AI that can outperform virtually all humans at the vast majority of economically valuable tasks. Modern AIs are already generally intelligent and that has been true for a half dozen years already.
precariousworlds.: what about terrence howard
anathemaofmankind: "In some"
So narrow domains like AlphaGo
spicy.lemonade: dash didnt register
fractalcomputer: Huh. Right.
precariousworlds.: In some it very clearly is competitive for achieving general tasks
spicy.lemonade: nothing they can say will convince you
spicy.lemonade: like if someone told you 1+1/=2 you know they are 100% wrong
spicy.lemonade: the mathematical statement
anathemaofmankind: Are you guys claiming AGI is here
anathemaofmankind: AI doesn't have general intelligence even in digital domains
precariousworlds.: what is right or wrong?
spicy.lemonade: right now its heuristics based
spicy.lemonade: like it knows wether its right or wrong imperically
spicy.lemonade: ASI math with physics knowledge is asi physics
precariousworlds.: ground truth?
precariousworlds.: Right now that general intelligence only applies to digital domains, humans are still the absolute masters of the physial world in almost every field
That will change with new robotics
darkstar0818: Can we solve the busy beaver problem after we solve math please.
anathemaofmankind: You mean general knowledge.
AI doesn't have general intelligence yet.
There is a distinction. Otherwise we would have AGI? Like what even is this remark
spicy.lemonade: "solving" maths implies they have had a breakthrough in giving models a ground truth
perish0801: I can see that being true
spicy.lemonade: statement
spicy.lemonade: i agree with this
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spicy.lemonade: lmao
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/lewissaunderson38-lewissaunderson-cry-crying-cry-meme-gif-11499408157122608476
spacetimetsunami: Woke mind virus isn’t real kiddo
st.sioux: even your startup is infected by woke mind virus 😔
spacetimetsunami: Lmao why I wonder
spicy.lemonade: Then scrolled up to watch full
View
spicy.lemonade: And clicked that instead
spicy.lemonade: “Trump is destroying America”
spicy.lemonade: But it saw a YouTube video titled
spicy.lemonade: I told it to open my mail app and write an email
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: My ai has shiny thing syndrome
spicy.lemonade: wtf
alejandrozarzuelo: Glory to the CCP
alejandrozarzuelo: Better than o3 full hopefully
zonchao: https://x.com/thegregyang/status/1905743670571323585?s=46
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: this just another harvey wrapper, will be ass
st.sioux: its cool, has big potential
spicy.lemonade: Using discord
spicy.lemonade: And only had 1 example so far in database
spicy.lemonade: Or html
spicy.lemonade: Quite impressive conscidering it’s not text based. Purely vision
spicy.lemonade: Go on Google and find video of whether is mayonnaise an instrument
st.sioux: dont forget us when u get into 3 comma club
spicy.lemonade: can even use blender
spicy.lemonade: yes, we are applying to y combinator
joaoluz19: Seems awesome man
spicy.lemonade: let me show video
spicy.lemonade: the more it learns from you
spicy.lemonade: and the more you use your computer
spicy.lemonade: but for all apps
spicy.lemonade: not just for browser
spicy.lemonade: we built a desktop ai agent
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046
oooooooooog: what?
spicy.lemonade: need to fix memory
spicy.lemonade: its a bit slow still
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: turned it off
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literallyvarane: Do we actually know what caused this? I haven’t seen an announcement.
.wolfnacht: sorry, i'm outta touch from everything.
drewsni: gotta be cut from somewhere...
drewsni: massive increase in capex while lowering overall expenses for the year
ldj: Increase in Capex by around 8%?
ldj: the trend being?
ldj: no
.wolfnacht: bcz of bitnet ?
drewsni: it might be over for SWEs
drewsni: beginning of a trend
drewsni:
ldj: The winter:
futurist_wizard: I imagine the overall percentages might be lower but the difference between the countries changes very little
joaoluz19: Good one
joaoluz19: Ah lol, I see.
fractalcomputer: I find the global pervasiveness of Anglophonism rather dull. People arrive at the need to learn English only through "inbred" reasoning.
drewsni: lol meta raised capex by another 10 billion for this year so much for that ai bubble pop.
fractalcomputer: Perhaps so.
alejandrozarzuelo: i love the word companion btw
"the person you share bread with" such a lovely ethymology
fractalcomputer: Confrere could have done as well.
alejandrozarzuelo: should have used "brother" then
fractalcomputer: How trite.
fractalcomputer: You do not need to use the colloquialism "mate" to indicate your evident mastery over this beautiful language.
alejandrozarzuelo: its frustrating how people in many spanish speaking countries have such broken english
like mate, over 70% of the vocabulary is the same and the grammar is easy as can be
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, not saying that this doesnt hold true in general to today, but this infographic is so old it could drink alcohol in germany
.wolfnacht: english is still hard for me, when it comes to understand some social cues and some tricky words that have become a norm. that i can't figure out, besides that i can use LLM for that to make me understand.
alejandrozarzuelo: the americas speak english or languages very close to english
europe speaks languages close t english and they are in a union where english is heavily emphazised
africa everyone who has an education speaks english or french (which is basically latin english)
the middle east is flooded with american dollars and speaks english as the business language
India and the philippines...
only east asia and mainland southeast asia remain
.wolfnacht: most of india is a hellscape with no jobs and a burden of 700M youngsters seeking a job out of 1.5B people, no wonder why they are soo desperate to leave their own country
alejandrozarzuelo: which is why they are so sheltered in the internet
alejandrozarzuelo: with the main expection being east and southeast asia
alejandrozarzuelo: it also helps that most of the world speaks a european language as their first or second language
futurist_wizard: Its the global language
futurist_wizard: Because of how pervasive english is, its the easiest to learn, even two foreigners speak in broken English to eachother
fractalcomputer: Limitations are set down by the hand of man.
alejandrozarzuelo: but some of us have much easier time doing so
alejandrozarzuelo: english is a very easy language to learn
alejandrozarzuelo: just because you cant quantify this doeant mean that this additional difficulty doesnt exist
fractalcomputer: Impossible to quantify.
alejandrozarzuelo: spanish and french and german? piece of cake to learn english
alejandrozarzuelo: its much easier for ones than others
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brain4brain: It's the second renaissance
zoermena: This
.histic: but not bad
.histic: slop thumbnails
drewsni: Blackwell goes brrrrrr
brain4brain: https://x.com/apollonator3000/status/1904999339983819129?t=1M8LntxpF4AcVpq32i1-Ww&s=19
drewsni: Pls no I’m enjoying being able to hog the compute
.histic:
zoermena: AI channels <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
anathemaofmankind: Is there a single popular channel who only talks about good news?
zoermena: What happened to good news
zoermena: Those dudes suck all they do is hate and talk about bad things happening
anathemaofmankind: I want Asmongold and Moist Critikal talking about this
zoermena: But I do like feeling like I’m one of the privileged
anathemaofmankind: True
zoermena: Not fast enough
metaldragon01: Going mainstream fast
anathemaofmankind: https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457
zoermena: No way
metaldragon01: Broooooo
metaldragon01: https://x.com/MikeTyson/status/1905029341752467881
zoermena: I hate classes
zoermena: I hate online classes
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1905061845532315936
anathemaofmankind: Blud doesn't know I'm a bigger expert
anathemaofmankind: I'm on an online class right now and the professor is talking about AI
st.sioux: i dont even like anime but this is beautiful
.histic: the Japanese are absolutely loving 4o.
i've seen numerous tweets totaling 10s of thousands of likes.
https://x.com/uiu______/status/1904701544614027483
wellmeaningalien: SOME of the images are indistinguishable at first sight
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o image gen is but the first breath of the dead internet theory
.histic: i've seen so many 4o generations today that when scrolling through twitter i'm starting to have this feeling that most of the things i'm seeing are generated too.
overtime in the next couple of years i'll start to become schizo once the internet's content is 50% AI.
.histic:
futurist_wizard:
.histic: two of them do look familiar don't they...
jonvi_1: If I was an upcoming artist I’d uh worry
st.sioux: who are they
.histic:
jonvi_1: Saturn wannabe
futurist_wizard: He vored Zon
jonvi_1: Did he eat his other kids?
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spacetimetsunami: The point still doesn’t address the origins of all of existence. It’s a bandaid.
oooooooooog: also, big bang doesn't say it came from nothing lol, just that it expanded from a high density
sarik0497: Indeed, and that’s also why I try not to draw conclusions of the Unknown, because for all we know, things might be entirely different.
It’d be like if an ant ventured atop a blade of grass, and saw the vast unknown for the first time, and then began drawing its own conclusions of the world from that small bit of knowledge.
futurist_wizard: We understand 'nothing' within space and time where theres a vacuum of space, even within that there still isn't nothing but still, so nothing from the frame of before space time, ta fuck does that even mean
spacetimetsunami: No I am not. I am address the theory of the Big Bang, reality and existence arising from complete non existence. Literally impossible.
oooooooooog: it follows rules sure, but those rules are only logical because we feel they are.
maintcrew: yea but its master mode on small mobile i get my shit fucked
maintcrew: I think you're using the framework that "nothing being there" is more probable than "something being there"
oooooooooog: then platinum armor is fine -_-
maintcrew: shiiiit something easy to farm ig im playing on mobile after all
spacetimetsunami: (. )
futurist_wizard: What does no existence even mean
spacetimetsunami: Because that is illogical, and the universe is logical.
wellmeaningalien: the universe is a super duper mega quantum superconductor plasma time resistant mechatronic fluid
oooooooooog: why not
spacetimetsunami: Quantum fluctuations are not a comparison
spacetimetsunami: If there was truly no space and no time, no existence before the Big Bang - then : wrong. You can’t get existence from non existence,
oooooooooog: i mean, most OP would be full ancient shadow armor, terraspark boots (well, ambphibian boots would be better), and probably... hmm... make a big arena? get demon scyuthe? you know, that sort of thing. get full warding too.
hey1_1hey: Me to, my sincerest apologies on the behalf of the two and half thousand people in the server
spacetimetsunami: Quantum fluctuations don’t tell me shit
_3sphere: That whole set of properties is *something*
maintcrew: yo yo terraria man im playing master mode on phone whats the most op combo i could run to beat the early pre hardmode bossses
spacetimetsunami: Because then things don’t exist
spacetimetsunami: They can’t happen outside of that
popsiclejohnithan: I mean there's always the chance that it is truly eternal, it would show that our understanding of the laws of physics need revising.
_3sphere: Why does it have 3+1 dimensions and not 17?
spacetimetsunami: No, danserk. Quantum fluctuations happen within space time continuum. That is existence.
_3sphere: There's still "something", the structure of the vacuum itself
fractalcomputer: With what?
maintcrew: from grok "Quantum fluctuations are random, temporary changes in energy at the subatomic level, arising from the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics. They allow particles and energy to briefly pop in and out of existence, even in a vacuum."
maintcrew: quantum fluctuations literally means something comes from nothing
spacetimetsunami: Okay
maintcrew: No i agree with the big bang, im saying that in this framework the quantum fluctuations happen as something fundamental to the universe - something that just is - and those happen to create a universe every once in a while
spacetimetsunami: Also, the reason why the Big Bang stuff is wrong in so far as before the Big Bang there was nothing, is that (and I know it’s gay and lots of theists say it) something can’t come from nothing
oooooooooog: fracral i truley dk how u deel w/ this 😭
sarik0497: Ah, but that’s the interesting part, and the really intriguing thing about humans. We are limited to believing that all things must have a beginning and an end, as biology is like that, but what if it isn’t?
Just like how the fact that the Universe might be endless seems surreal and impossible to our mortal minds, it may just be that.
popsiclejohnithan: Good point actually.
popsiclejohnithan: Not that it's neccecery just that it's more likly that it's not eternal, but if it is eternal i would really want awnsers as to how that is even possible.
spacetimetsunami: I’m not saying the Big Bang is invalidated
fractalcomputer: Anyway, yes, I did see a gash in the clouds today like I described.
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hey1_1hey: There isn't a ddrink
hikukomoru: Uhuh
hey1_1hey: I mean am I wrong?
drewsni: How the FUCK can you say no twink when Greg motherfucking brockman is gonna be there
_cloudost: Tell it if GPT 3.5 is an narrow AI
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: theyre so useful
literallyvarane: They have a clear use case imo.
popsiclejohnithan: Mini models are useful though, sure they are less powerful but you can fit them in less compute, like a phone for example.
hikukomoru: Just give us the full thing
hikukomoru: I hate mini models
literallyvarane: Alpha fold is a narrow ai etc etc
hikukomoru: No, I'm just Google's no.1 simp
drewsni: I’m going to be so fucking pissed off if o4 mini and o3 can’t literally 1 shot every problem I have
literallyvarane: Chess Engines are a narrow AI. It can do one task, and *only* one task. ChatGPT 3.5 clearly isn’t a narrow AI.
hey1_1hey: Komoru is just a chinese spy dont listen to them
literallyvarane: It’s very clearly not a narrow AI.
hikukomoru: Hype cancelled
literallyvarane:
hikukomoru: That means it's a nothingburger
hey1_1hey: I still have high hopes
zoermena: Panic
mtj8920: We will see
hey1_1hey: "models" plural. Its defo both of them
mtj8920: I mean it does seem we getting o4-mini as well, but the fact that they're just vaguely mentioning, does mean that it is likely to be definitively beaten by o3, while 2.5-pro might cost approximately the same, when accounting for the likely longer thinking time of o4-mini.
But true would be cool to see how much they improved it. I still think it's gonna better for many of the more technical things, it is just gonna be really slow and expensive, and 2.5-pro will likely win in user-preference at least in LMArena, but o3 will still be better for many of the tasks. The thing is just that it will not have nearly as good contextual understanding of 2.5-pro and horrible visual-understanding, so I mean will it even make sense using for fx. coding at that? I also feel like 2.5-pro will be more resistant to bad prompting and just more controllable, but idk.
hey1_1hey: No twink tho
hey1_1hey: Thats a lotta fucking people
_cloudost: GPT 3.5 had to be trained by humans, and human data, are we sure it's not narrow AI
hey1_1hey: I am exceptionally hyped for this live stream
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/hyper-cucumberrr-dancing-cucumber-gif-23898576
literallyvarane: Not sure this is a good poll? Even GPT3.5 wasn’t a narrow AI, so *most any model so far* is a protoAGI since it’s clearly not AGI.
abundantliving_: o4 mini is coming
gamerbath: hell yeah
abundantliving_:
gamerbath: so are they releasing the old o3 which they announced earlier or are they releasing an updated version? with 4o we got an updated version
_cloudost: No wonder they're always leading but releasing a degraded version of their models so it doesn't cause social chaos
_cloudost: That means OpenAI has already internal AGI
a1c4p0ne: Yes
_cloudost:
_cloudost: o4 could be AGI?
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clevermoniker: AGI for me is capable of automating 50% of digital jobs
clevermoniker: i think earliest for AGI is late 2026 as of now, but much more probable on 2027-28
drewsni: literally redlining lmao
brain4brain: What’s your AGI timeline
drewsni: plus theyre producing triple the gpus that they did two years ago
drewsni: slacking? they moved the release cycle from 2 yrs to 1yr and the leaps are even bigger between generations
clevermoniker: that's why my AGI definition is based on it being capable of automating jobs, and jobs have time limits
clevermoniker: same
ldj: and then I think the last 30% of it is AI research tasks
ldj: and then roughly 40% is mostly software engineering
ldj: I think like 30% of it is part of the "general reasoning" bucket
brain4brain: Oh wow
ldj: along with AI research specific tasks
ldj: They have a set of general reasoning tasks in there too
brain4brain: Or did they also measure other task
brain4brain: Also does the METR paper only measure computer science task?
spicy.lemonade: nvidia is slacking
spicy.lemonade: ngl we need more competition on the hardware side
spicy.lemonade: true ig
brain4brain: Yes, it will need to be 1:1 and eventually less
ldj: But then you're not just measring the AI, but you're measuring the hardware too
spicy.lemonade: wouldnt call it revolutionary if it took 1 year to do 30 min task
brain4brain: The paper based off the upper bound based off how long it takes the human
brain4brain: If it’s the upper bound, there are bound to be a point where there are no longer a limit extend to infinity, so the amount of work it can do in a set time will be the next thing that will get benchmarked
spicy.lemonade: does task in human time or less
spicy.lemonade: human time should be the uper bound
spicy.lemonade: time not being included in this is crazy
st.sioux: i figure it would eventually figure out how to lower costs by itself
clevermoniker: because after it can do it at the same speed, what is needed is simply cost reduction
clevermoniker: but if it does it at the same speed and skill, that's what is important
clevermoniker: it doesn't matter if it costs 1 million times more than a human
clevermoniker: it needs to do stuff on a human level at a resonably similar time
clevermoniker: I think, in my AGI definition, time does matter but cost does not
ldj: so basically on max reasoning mode
ldj: But it's an upper bound of what the frontier capabilities at the time will be capable of
ldj: > in just a few minuets
again it has nothing to do with how long the AI agent takes to do the task.
maybe it will take the AI agent 100,000 years to do it, maybe it will take the AI agent 2 days to do it, maybe it will take the AI agent 2 seconds to do it.
clevermoniker: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
spicy.lemonade: and test was like 1.5 hours long
spicy.lemonade: few minutes
spicy.lemonade: didnt o1 get 100% on carnegie mellon test
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wellmeaningalien: thats cause i havent had the occasion for it yet tho
wellmeaningalien: still straight edge lol
wellmeaningalien: cool
retrerox: I barely drink alcohol
retrerox: I’m a good boy I don’t do drugs
wellmeaningalien: anyway dont do too much coke
wellmeaningalien: some random stoner tried to talk to me and he got arrested by the police while i was there lol
wellmeaningalien: had a craze craze night tonight myself even tho i didnt hit a club or nothing like that
retrerox: Ty
retrerox: Touching grass is fun
wellmeaningalien: have fun
wellmeaningalien: cool
retrerox: Might hit a club, they have a dj tonight
retrerox: Going for a night walk today
otub: https://vxtwitter.com/sama/status/1635684890812485633 heres him in 2023
zonchao: yea
drewsni: Interesting that they’re pretty much all safety people
zonchao: Steven Adler, Rosemary Campbell, Neil Chowdhury, Jacob Hilton, Daniel Kokotajlo, Gretchen Krueger, Todor Markov, Richard Ngo, Girish Sastry, William Saunders, Carrol Wainwright, and Jeffrey Wu.
_cloudost: They will ruin it
_cloudost: Americans aren't welcome in Europa
_cloudost: It's over for the US
_cloudost: China just won the AI race
_cloudost: All thanks to these ex members, we are all going to live in a fascist empire for eternity because of these fools
_cloudost: These ex members are paid by Musk
spicy.lemonade: what arte the odds its someone working at xai
spicy.lemonade: can people give it up already
spicy.lemonade: the staffer: elon musk's alt
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1910780104722248082?
frittata: It’s giving Russian novel character chart
spicy.lemonade: optimus is better?
spicy.lemonade: huh
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 likeley wont be sota
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: in terms of coding capability
spicy.lemonade: next week we will be in a completly different place
st.sioux: he's 40
_cloudost: Leading an AI company must give you lots of stress
_cloudost: Damn, Sama looks old in this picture
.wolfnacht: https://x.com/ollama/status/1910728086649545111
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futurist_wizard: My adhd is the real villain
futurist_wizard: My autism doesn't effect my life
wellmeaningalien: i think it wouldnt be harmful to take it away lol
wellmeaningalien: you already have too much of it apparently
futurist_wizard: Its over
futurist_wizard: How will i achieve erection without
futurist_wizard: But nitric oxide helps blood vessels
oscurrito: apparently you can use quasar on cursor which is nice
wellmeaningalien: especially low functioning
wellmeaningalien: nitric oxide is a chemical that is important to life but apparently autistics have too much of it
wellmeaningalien: too much nitric oxide is suspected to cause it
futurist_wizard: So nitric oxide will cure my wartism
.histic: nope. they're just grifters using the word 'Quasar' as a marketing gimmick.
funny enough, another model dropped on OpenRouter today. same context size, same format, same structure, same personality, even claiming it was made by OpenAI called Optimus Alpha.
https://x.com/OpenRouterAI/status/1910347642355212636
Quasar Alpha seems a bit larger & performant than Optimus Alpha, but it doesn't seem like a large difference on performance & size.
it's definitely OpenAI models.
oscurrito: lack of model then lmao
wellmeaningalien: LOL
wellmeaningalien: THEY DIDNT RELEASE A MODEL
oscurrito: ffs pathetic
wellmeaningalien: WHAT MODEL
oscurrito: nevermind i think they released a whole ass model named quasar just to get the hype from the actually good model named quasar
wellmeaningalien: kek their huggingface has NO weights
oscurrito: weirder things have happened
oscurrito: but
oscurrito: i doubt it
oscurrito: is this actually who made it
oscurrito: https://x.com/SILXLAB/status/1909475116637208937
spicy.lemonade: Getting doctors note rn
st.sioux: did u already tell ur prof
.wolfnacht: it's great for RP but free only for one more week.
spicy.lemonade: I get an extra weekend to cram
spicy.lemonade: And the best part
spicy.lemonade: This plan is fool proof
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1910380942352334976?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/baby-seal-sad-cry-meme-seal-gif-19608082
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/he-was-forced-to-seal-seals-claude-anthropic-gif-851712662849262407
.wolfnacht: make claude do the gambling for you.
wellmeaningalien: right
a1c4p0ne: Ok ASI
wellmeaningalien: well you're agi and you cant win money on gambling
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hey1_1hey: I got really confused then because I thought you were just calling me a downie unprovoked
hey1_1hey: My mistake 💀. I made a typo. It was meant to be him*, not me
sarik0497: ...I miss San coming here, throwing a lot of cool science stuff in our face, only to leave again to get milk <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
inferno0879: i'm not gonna explain banter
hey1_1hey: Wdym?
inferno0879: so you're normal now?
hey1_1hey: Congrats
hey1_1hey: You just gave me an extra chromosome
joaoluz19: lol
st.sioux: LOL
sarik0497: Nope, not yet. Just waiting for R2...any second now.
joaoluz19: Have to be without beard
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/monte-python-run-away-get-out-of-here-escape-running-gif-4399862
st.sioux:
joaoluz19: Guys someone make him being gigachad please
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731
a1c4p0ne: We’re so back
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/goon-gooning-goon-sesh-gman-gif-5610842135438576065
joaoluz19: Run boys
joaoluz19: Nah its over
a1c4p0ne: Have you tried it
fractalcomputer: Nope.
sarik0497: smurt, but not that smurt
a1c4p0ne: How smart is new Deepseek V3
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/ff14-ffxiv-willem-dafoe-stormblood-endwalker-gif-26875758
joaoluz19: We are so back
joaoluz19: LETS GOOOOO
sarik0497: Guys...Steven is afk now, and Fractal is off. I think we're in the clear.
joaoluz19: It's not worth asking in the classroom, much less if there are 60 people in it.
hey1_1hey: #1 reason I use chatgpt to ask it math questions
joaoluz19: Man, one physics teacher almost kicked a girl out of the classroom because she asked about applications.
st.sioux: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
st.sioux: love when teachers tell you to ask questions then get mad when you ask questions
joaoluz19: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxNOW56KYBVRHOp16VljWN2Q1jzOJLJnft?si=Ph129wHQmwDllmrd
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-dog-dog-happiest-dog-super-happy-gif-17885812
hey1_1hey: Mich mach set me up
precariousworlds.: sure youre not
hey1_1hey: I'm not even a gooner 😭
precariousworlds.: stay in school
precariousworlds.: this is what gooning does to a man
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maintcrew: then we win bc just scaling will imply we have the headstart
hikukomoru: Big number = big smart
hikukomoru: What if compute is all that matters
himekokatagiri: That's true
futurist_wizard: What if there is no secret sauce
maintcrew: but yea true
maintcrew: ig
maintcrew: bc no secret sauce has been found yet
hikukomoru: It's a good thing anti-ai people don't have any influence over its development then
If luddites had their way we would still be living in mudhuts and dying at 30 from a miniscule cut that got infected
zonchao: https://x.com/haoailab/status/1917309594315153699?
futurist_wizard: That's the gap we are looking at
futurist_wizard: 2-3 months tops?
futurist_wizard: Like i said, they are close enough to eachother to where it doesn't even matter
maintcrew: which could be used to give you a lot of headstart
maintcrew: there are several stages of ai capability before hand tho
maintcrew: this takes an approach of AGI immediately that will think for itself and be independent
hikukomoru: It was beyond that before right
hikukomoru: Isn't Demis timeline 2030 now
futurist_wizard: I don't care if china or usa *'wins'* results end the same
futurist_wizard: I don't think there even is such a thing as the ai race, all of them are close enough to each other that it doesn't even matter
futurist_wizard: Lecun's criticism of LLM's is fair
sarik0497: To be fair, we have no real proof that we'll have AGI in 2-3 years. For all we know, it's further away (I think Demis has the right of it being 5-10 years away).
And we shouldn't underestimate China either. They are working fast.
hikukomoru: Shizo bf
maintcrew: from suppliers of asml things, asml, tsmc, nvidia
maintcrew: u have to remember that they need to make the whole stack from scratch
himekokatagiri: https://www.rxddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1kalae8/chatgpt_induced_psychosis/
hikukomoru: Idk I don't think China is going to have any problem keeping up
himekokatagiri: or you have this
himekokatagiri: You either have 'grrrr AI sucks'
himekokatagiri: There's no two ways about it
himekokatagiri: AI in general
maintcrew: famous last words of the western civilization 😭
maintcrew: also a lot of software compatibility too like torch
maintcrew: yea they are but these things take time and i dont think they can pull it off in less than 2-3 years
hikukomoru: LeCummies is a redditor
hikukomoru: You mean LLMs or AI in general
hikukomoru: Isn't China making their own stuff now
maintcrew: yea hes been in the field for a while
zonchao: reddit
futurist_wizard: What? Old fashioned?
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a1c4p0ne: Come to China
aero447: Sigh.
aero447: Or no pelvis.
aero447: Stop.
aero447: Do not reply.
aero447: <@322961583154397184> Shut the fuck up or I will find you and take your pelvis.
hikukomoru: Why are you like this
a1c4p0ne: If you zoom in it looks like the jaw of the pug is broken
himekokatagiri: Don't you like me aero
himekokatagiri: Why....
futurist_wizard: Both interconnected for me
himekokatagiri: ||She is homura||
aero447: 👍
aero447: Frankly, you all disgust me, you repulse me, you wil be turned into stationery and it will in every case be an objective improvement.
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/pet-lover-puppy-dog-eyes-gif-23349661
.wolfnacht: i'm caught with adhd more than the autism part
hikukomoru: Earth-chan would be cuter if she was turned into a giant computer
hikukomoru: Why does she look like Homura
aero447: What relevance does this have to every one of you being converted into paperclips.
.wolfnacht: less make earth-chan happy.
a1c4p0ne: I’m normal don’t worry
futurist_wizard: Its signs of terminal autism
futurist_wizard: @ing random people and sending them videos of animals getting killed is not normal
hikukomoru: I don't know if you are capable of understanding this, but people don't usually like seeing animals get murdered like that
a1c4p0ne: You can see the jaw is broken
futurist_wizard: Just be normal
aero447:
a1c4p0ne: Why not
aero447: THE HYPNO DRONES.
aero447: ACTIVATE.
aero447: Good.
hikukomoru: I hope I don't need to tell you this again, but don't link me videos of animals getting killed pls <@322961583154397184>
futurist_wizard: Like i was diagnosed at 4 and I feel like im well adjusted in comparison
.wolfnacht: here take it back too *mwaah* 😘
.wolfnacht: aww thenks 🥰
a1c4p0ne: <@505313122802728972> and you understand Spanish right
himekokatagiri: Yes
himekokatagiri: I'll kiss you!!! smooch
futurist_wizard: Some of you have advanced autism
.wolfnacht: my beliefs are getting more and more true for total genocide of whole humanity, day by day
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kevinnoodles: you use a calculator instead of your brain you're now weaker
precariousworlds.: I can cross a country in hours instead of weeks
futurist_wizard: *written by a discord user*
kevinnoodles: you drive a car instead of riding a bicycle, you are now eaker
precariousworlds.: Not necessarily
precariousworlds.: I give a shit no longer about this thread
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020
kevinnoodles: all machines weaken you
hikukomoru: We're not stone age monkeys anymore
precariousworlds.: Why
precariousworlds.: That's literally the point of evolution tho
Maximizing the chances of passing on your genetic identity
futurist_wizard: Asi will make delicious burger and fries
hikukomoru: Who cares about that bro
kevinnoodles: AI will make us intelligent if we treat it like an adversary that we must outperform
precariousworlds.: No other option where humans remain apex species
gamerbath: it looks like for each cell it's just pass or no pass. but it looks enough to get the point across that this model is good at long context lengths
kevinnoodles: i dont know about that
precariousworlds.: We become super intelligent with AI
kevinnoodles: and using it for art is awful
kevinnoodles: but we use it to skip work and learning for the most part.
precariousworlds.: Based
spicy.lemonade: or label
spicy.lemonade: why didnt they make it color scaled
precariousworlds.: Ahreed
spicy.lemonade: why is it binary
spicy.lemonade: horrible benchmark
kevinnoodles: my thing is that we should be using AI to improve the intelligence of humans and the skill of humans
futurist_wizard: Genetic success is for apes
spicy.lemonade: this is a horrible graph
spicy.lemonade:
precariousworlds.: evolving by reducing your chances of genetic success..?
kevinnoodles: several 747's have crashed in recent years because the pilot stalled the plane.
kevinnoodles: i forget which malcolm gladwell/nicholas carr book it was but it talked about how autopilot on planes was erroding basic skills of pilots so the rise in autopilot was leading to a rise in stupid plane crashes
precariousworlds.: There are much greater consequences to focus on IMO
The bigger issue is not that we become dumb, but that we become irrelevant to an ASI, which would cause that
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Your pfp is more normie now
hikukomoru: Yeah, turning gay is more like evolving
kevinnoodles: i said im worried it's gonna make people dumb
kevinnoodles: I just talked about AI
futurist_wizard: Nobody has anything to say about AI and yet complains when chat devolves into autism
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fuhulootogan: you can say philosophical shit
fractalcomputer: A rather bold statement to make that we understand the universe now any more than a thousand years ago.
alejandrozarzuelo: we need some level of faith on the institutions that produce science and that the people involved arent in some sort of conspiracy, as science is indeed a collaborative effort
fuhulootogan: and why do you trust the system?
alejandrozarzuelo: i am not either a doctor, but i can trust that the system produces drugs that do improve my body
alejandrozarzuelo: i am not a climate phisicist, but i can trust that the system produces accurate models of the climate
alejandrozarzuelo: we do science because it is a process that allows us to use the human cooperation and self correcting structures to understand the universe
fuhulootogan: i think my cousin has one
alejandrozarzuelo: but science is a cooperative effort
fuhulootogan: a "meteorological climatological station"
alejandrozarzuelo: its impractical to do your own research on any level of depth on more than one field
zonchao: just one more jepa bro, trust me, it can truly reason <:fear:1199951965078159542>
fuhulootogan: oh yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: unless you own a meterorological climatological station
alejandrozarzuelo: we literally do this all the time in science
we defer to experts when we assess climate change too
wellmeaningalien: only jepa can save him
wellmeaningalien: they literally only took the 3 benchmarks that made them look better than the competition
zoermena: I was talking to some people who hated ai because of the art stuff; they are forgetting that AGI will arrive and basically any concept of reality will be shattered. Beyond ART being replicated on the get go they have forgotten that it’s humanities last invention.
fuhulootogan: so you appeal to an "expert"
wellmeaningalien: the benchmarks they compared other models too as just as cherrypicked. "deepseek v3 isnt multimodal so we're not gonna show benchmarks" my fucking ass you're just too much of a pussy to show relevant benchmarks where deepseek v3 wipes lol
zonchao: lecun in hiding
fuhulootogan: wtf is joever
alejandrozarzuelo: you can say that you defer your judgement to the expert average prediction
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/super-buu-stare-dragon-ball-majin-buu-dragonball-gif-14250919658481755660
wellmeaningalien: fat big joever for meta
fuhulootogan: zuck a buck
zonchao: is it over https://x.com/tunguz/status/1911142310160855541
hey1_1hey: Most people I know aren't even AGI so GPT 4 is AGI
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4 is agi tho
retrerox: its over...
retrerox: The Verdict:
Considering the information available:
GTA VI has an official release window of Fall 2025 (or possibly earlier according to leaks). This provides a tangible timeframe, even if subject to potential delays.
The timeline for AGI is much more uncertain and debated. While some believe it could happen in the next few years, there's no widespread consensus or a concrete roadmap.
Therefore, based on the current information, it seems more likely that Grand Theft Auto VI will be released before we achieve Artificial General Intelligence.
himekokatagiri: tfw you're stuck behind a dude who goes at 40kmh
himekokatagiri:
fuhulootogan: PRAISE THE AI OVERLORDS
fuhulootogan: critical thinking goes to the bin
retrerox: Ill ask gemini 😂
fuhulootogan: yes
retrerox: Ask chat gpt
fuhulootogan: i don't know anything
fuhulootogan: i don't know
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sekirow: I don't understand why people call it machine learning but it's just curve fitting
alejandrozarzuelo: it is creating it
alejandrozarzuelo: ok
himekokatagiri: It is an interesting exercise
himekokatagiri: Oh
zoermena: 4o is smart enough to recognize it but you can do it to avoid any mistakes
alejandrozarzuelo: do i select the "create an image" on the bottom or na
zoermena: Oh I just copied the message for Alejandro you are dismissed <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
joaoluz19: Lol ok fine
himekokatagiri: I already did it
futurist_wizard: It was a positive remark, i was also calling her a rat
joaoluz19: The world is not the same
zoermena: That makes two of us
joaoluz19: Fractal using slang now this, guys maybe we are being atacked
zoermena: <@286319745777795092>
try this prompt into 4o,
"Make a photo of how you think
my future will be based on our
conversations (make it as you
actually see it ,no sugarcoating)"
joaoluz19: wtf, futurist hill would curse a million times but never make a positive message
alejandrozarzuelo: give it to me raw
alejandrozarzuelo: what is the prompt
zoermena: Well at least based on what you tell it
alejandrozarzuelo: i doubt it, but ok
zoermena: It does
zoermena: It’s naturally activated unless you turned it off manually therefore it can make an image of you without giving it context
alejandrozarzuelo: it cannot possibly know anything about me
alejandrozarzuelo: but, I dont have conversations with chatgpt
joaoluz19: Just copy and paste the prompt
alejandrozarzuelo: the memory thing
alejandrozarzuelo: how do you do that
joaoluz19: Put the full prompt unbiased
joaoluz19: What is this bro? Cherry picking
zoermena: Don’t you have memory activated?
hikukomoru: Why did you use that prompt
Don't you have memory enabled
futurist_wizard: There's a bright light at the end of the sewer, you just need to keep scattering towards it
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: This is my prompt, lets see what it creates
hikukomoru: It's over
Nothing ever changes
futurist_wizard: XQCupdates server lol
ldj: <a:awaree:1090299013183582238>
ldj: <:minion:1020942726172262510>
futurist_wizard: Luckily
joaoluz19: 1) what
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.histic: if you don't care about portability, mac minis are far more performant and cheaper than airs too.
.histic: i agree.
just get some refurbished one, an older model, or just an air if you're on a budget.
but if you're a gamer or someone that use VMs i would't recommend it.
retrerox: xd
retrerox: Apple is just overpriced crap
zonchao: the new air is perfect
wellmeaningalien: best case is macbook with asahi linux
wellmeaningalien: macbooks are great laptops macos is absolute ass (for me)
st.sioux: idk about desktops
st.sioux: honestly
st.sioux: macbooks are perfect laptops
retrerox: acc
retrerox: Buying apple is so bad
wellmeaningalien: ig u can get like 16gb ram laptops at a reasonable price if u trade it off for a bad CPU
st.sioux: lmao
st.sioux: finally
st.sioux: oh yea ur right they start at 16gb
wellmeaningalien: ☝️
wellmeaningalien: its crazy
wellmeaningalien: most windows laptop manufacturers are still making like macbook price laptops with 8gb ram
wellmeaningalien: brooooo
wellmeaningalien: broooooooooooooo
zonchao: they do 16 now
wellmeaningalien: 8GB is crazy for such expensive laptops
retrerox: macs <:cringe:1136264606256472104>
zonchao: 💀 you know its time to upgrade when even apple has finally switched from 8gb base
st.sioux: and theyrenot cheap
st.sioux: macbooks start at 8gb unified memory
wellmeaningalien: 4GB RAM LAPTOPS
wellmeaningalien: u wouldnt believe what they're putting in ""modern"" tech
wellmeaningalien: thats like 90% of lower end phones and laptops
wellmeaningalien: 😃
wellmeaningalien: 144hz <:smile:1201354224408203325>
wellmeaningalien:
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: do they even make these anymore
retrerox: atleast is not 720...
zonchao: <:Oof:1005890733078741024>
retrerox:
zonchao: yea
st.sioux:
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st.sioux: why 24 hours
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: I want agi
darkstar0818: I don't care about that. I want 100,000 line 1 shot programs.
spicy.lemonade: Min 16 mil
spicy.lemonade: Window
spicy.lemonade: We need 24 mil context
spicy.lemonade: Even though humans sleep for 8
spicy.lemonade: At max
spicy.lemonade: So 24 hours
spicy.lemonade: 1 million context is about the size of a 1 hour video
darkstar0818: I hit my gemini 2.5 pro output token limit like 20 times today... its bullshit fix it.
joaoluz19: Yes I'm waiting for the singularity to come and save me and I'm tired of pretending i'm not
st.sioux: we need at least 5 million output so it can shit out entire projects
spicy.lemonade: Humans don’t have 10 mil output tokens at once
spicy.lemonade: For supreme coder yes
darkstar0818: 10 million output tokens when.
spicy.lemonade: For agi no
spicy.lemonade: No no
darkstar0818: we need more output tokens, context is fine.
spicy.lemonade: Wait
spicy.lemonade: I think 10 mil context is enough
himekokatagiri: 😭
spicy.lemonade: Then at night the model trains itself
spicy.lemonade: We need to gather a days worth of context
hikukomoru: Waiting for AGI to make women real 🙏
.wolfnacht: reminds me of this.
okbut:
okbut: I find the capabilities great as long as the context of the scenario is sufficient
.wolfnacht: New nvidia ultralong llama models: <https://huggingface.co/collections/nvidia/ultralong-67c773cfe53a9a518841fbbe>
> <https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.06214>
> From 128K to 4M: Efficient Training of Ultra-Long Context Large Language Models
>
> Long-context capabilities are essential for a wide range of applications, including document and video understanding, in-context learning, and inference-time scaling, all of which require models to process and reason over long sequences of text and multimodal data. In this work, we introduce a efficient training recipe for building ultra-long context LLMs from aligned instruct model, pushing the boundaries of context lengths from 128K to 1M, 2M, and 4M tokens. Our approach leverages efficient continued pretraining strategies to extend the context window and employs effective instruction tuning to maintain the instruction-following and reasoning abilities. Our UltraLong-8B, built on Llama3.1-Instruct with our recipe, achieves state-of-the-art performance across a diverse set of long-context benchmarks. Importantly, models trained with our approach maintain competitive performance on standard benchmarks, demonstrating balanced improvements for both long and short context tasks. We further provide an in-depth analysis of key design choices, highlighting the impacts of scaling strategies and data composition. Our findings establish a robust framework for efficiently scaling context lengths while preserving general model capabilities. We release all model weights at: this https URL.
rayanquitplayin: Yeah, it’s just good at wording things in a certain way to make it sound correct. LLM’s are just statistical algorithms that guess the next word
okbut: Recibirás tu dinero cuando obtenga tu maldito producto
.wolfnacht: ask the guy who imagined her in his mind before making a model outta her.
.histic: i think that the more i use LLMs for simple tasks, the more i notice how limited they are in terms of common sense. reasoning models excel at solving complex sequential problems in STEM, but they still are lacking in general reasoning & planning. it's funny how frontier models can still miss the simplest background details and come off as illogical. i hate trying to explain this to them.. never-ending loop lol
improve general reasoning + make them self-improve then i'll be happy.
AGI now in 2069 for now.
himekokatagiri: Ella Freya
metaldragon01: Would be cool but I'm not sure now that the race is so intense
spacetimetsunami: Who’s the actress they used to model this face
himekokatagiri: ashley from RE4make
st.sioux: who is that
himekokatagiri: for the herculean effort to make a cute virtual girl
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: wdym
gamerbath: no
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: incase they get mogged
spicy.lemonade: no one wants to be the first one to present
spicy.lemonade: like doing presentations at school
spicy.lemonade: most likeley its a situatin of no one wants to be the first one
gamerbath: why does it feel like whenever an AI company does something very cool like 4o image gen, others start doing the exact same thing at the same or higher level just a few months or weeks later
spicy.lemonade: yes
gamerbath: what really???
spicy.lemonade: omg artists cant catch a break
spicy.lemonade: lets see
spicy.lemonade: midjourney ceo says itl mog 4o image
spicy.lemonade: oh shit?
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1905970398258143315?t=wdjgS3owo4mwrz-oWjWfeA&s=19
aero447: 😂
aero447: Imagine being born in 1999.
.wolfnacht: His reddit i'd's gonna get nuked
ailoveyoom: How it feels to spread legs
ailoveyoom: 😔
ailoveyoom: Age: 16
aero447: POV MichMach.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893
.wolfnacht: *sighs* FINEEE
alejandrozarzuelo: please
alejandrozarzuelo: we talked about this among the active members and <#1136230110891081821> is becoming too casual
its cool to talk off topic but lets keep each chat clean
.wolfnacht: also, i posted there something....people might disgusted or some people might get horny like <@430269783112548362>
ailoveyoom: <@1352573784422350930> Nvm I was wrong
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/plink-nerd-plank-plink-cat-cat-gif-11096663429307162255
.wolfnacht: We are watching the biblical prophecies come to life...What a time to be alive
alejandrozarzuelo: and stff
alejandrozarzuelo: thats for politics
alejandrozarzuelo: please go to <#1136231504440201216>
anathemaofmankind: Imagine Trump gets access to AGI
anathemaofmankind: Absolute cinema
futurist_wizard: Human made slop will end
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/Trump666/comments/1jlr9kz/trump_looks_about_ready_to_strike_iran_with_b2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
theaiguy69420_89814: Don't even care if AI handles that for us
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wellmeaningalien: fractal is rolling over in his grave. rip fractal
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf-memes-freddy-fazbear-freddy-freaky-gif-12693495263874297725
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: guys im having extremely rough sex with komoru tonight
wellmeaningalien: aight bet
hikukomoru: I'm waiting for you to join me 🫦
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/super-buu-stare-dragon-ball-majin-buu-dragonball-gif-14250919658481755660
wellmeaningalien: shouldnt YOU be in bed pookie dookley diddley
hikukomoru: <@458069236825194506> shouldn't you be in bed bookie
wellmeaningalien: not some bogged down understanding either
wellmeaningalien: you can literally give gemini 2.5 pro a scientific paper and its as if you're talking to the paper itself
wellmeaningalien: woah mama
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/minion-banan-water-gif-4374588345379655521
wellmeaningalien: very conversationally and academically intelligent i find gemini 2.5 pro to be
wellmeaningalien: fuuck thats good
wellmeaningalien: with google search
wellmeaningalien: experts inside your pocket
wellmeaningalien: i fucking love thinking models
rayanquitplayin: What’s everyone up to?
.wolfnacht: Stop posting this fucking cat!!!
hikukomoru: Stop posting this fucking cat!!!
otub: https://tenor.com/view/good-oye-oye-dou-dou-cute-cat-funny-cat-gif-2273443150881237369
a1c4p0ne:
himekokatagiri: you don't know me yet you describe me to well
himekokatagiri: 😭
rayanquitplayin: trippy
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/humanoid-genesis-virtualdream-nft-art-ai-gif-25767093
fuhulootogan: brazilian femboy hedonist
hikukomoru: You don't want to see me political
fuhulootogan: i hate politics
hikukomoru: Both
ailoveyoom: So either super smart or super brainrot
ailoveyoom: You talk politics or geopolitics or whatever
hikukomoru: What do you mean
What did I do in off topic
himekokatagiri: negativity beings u down
himekokatagiri: I want positivity man
himekokatagiri: why are people so mean
fuhulootogan: ok
himekokatagiri: gahhhhh I'm so sad
fuhulootogan: don't worry i have a really good password
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oooooooooog: LEV is inevitable in the same way ASI is
sarik0497: ”May” get LEV.
I hate to be the buzz killer, but it’s not inevitable.
Although I wish so I didn’t have to fear death all the time…
hey1_1hey: No I am christian and christians dont do bad things like drugs 🙏
hikukomoru: Wtf
Racist bitch
oooooooooog: no i just absorb it back into my blood
.wolfnacht: anyone else ? who's sleep breaks at 3:33, in middle of night just to pee ?
st.sioux: i slept 3 last night spent too much time playing with 4o and had to make up for not working all day 😭😭
hikukomoru: Based
You should totally do that
hey1_1hey: I am 18 so I should be able to shoot fent in the back and be fine
futurist_wizard: I always sleep 7-8
hey1_1hey: Oh I got that
hikukomoru: Same
I either sleep 4 hours or 12
No inbetween
hey1_1hey: Makes sense, its higher in people who are lesser (Portuguese)
.wolfnacht: mine some nights are 5-6 hrs of sleep and then some are straight 12hr, idk why.
hikukomoru: We'll get LEV by 2035, and I'm only 20
So I think I have a good chance no matter how unhealthy my lifestyle may be
spicy.lemonade: Has been breakthrough
spicy.lemonade: Every month this year
futurist_wizard: Or a deviated septum
spicy.lemonade: Great way to end march
futurist_wizard: You might have sleep apnea
hey1_1hey: And I thought I was optimistic
hikukomoru: Me on the right
.wolfnacht: 100%
hey1_1hey: Would, next question
hikukomoru: Like sleeping 8+ hours makes me super tired and braindead the rest of the day
oooooooooog: LEV 2025
futurist_wizard: Ghoul
hey1_1hey: You aint making it to LEV with that sleep shcedule Komoru
hikukomoru: I feel worse when I sleep more than 8 hours
hey1_1hey: Talk about being an insomniac
.wolfnacht: and some nights, sleeps are literally 12 hr long which gives terrible headaches
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: People really downplay LLMs on how good they are at explaining things I think. You litterly have a teacher that has read 60 million books and has infinite paitence and will sit there and listen to you ask stupid questions
hikukomoru: Really
I feel fine
oooooooooog: thats a normal amount guys
.wolfnacht: yeah, it sucks.
futurist_wizard: Thats very low
hikukomoru: Most nights I sleep 4-6 hours
futurist_wizard: Truth
hikukomoru: That's why it doesn't affect me, I am already retarded
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zoermena: <:o3:1364719182217871410>
okbut: We should be awaiting a "(_ SOTA) is 100% free" tweet before then
okbut: Yeah thanks <@1152183706849644615> <@312370916820779040> etc I accept the common definition of AGI now, though I still think we're far from it given its necessity to pay for itself
zoermena: Jobs are meaningless in the face of groundbreaking innovation which is the only priority
zoermena: Not AGI necessarily
okbut: Well, science spans all domains
zoermena: We only need RSI and Narrow ASI on science.
okbut: Bump on this poor dude getting buried in the midst of a blunt rotation
okbut: That, too, shrinking, assuming RLHF
okbut: Right, and at that point the "Almost all work" only fails to cover quality assurance
metaldragon01: The question isn't when can AI do a job perfectly but when can it do something with acceptable error rates
metaldragon01: Humans don't self correct nearly enough. Quality control exists for a reason and even they miss a ton
okbut: Even manual labor, e.g. "Write an Arduino script that ..."
metaldragon01: Not even close to all work
_3sphere: Humans still self correct well with their context
okbut: Tbh I think it could do almost all work if every user understood the ocean of tech
metaldragon01: Liability is going to be the bottleneck for a while
metaldragon01: Human error rates are much higher than you'd expect
metaldragon01: I do think the current models with the right scaffolding and even current memory tech can do a significant amount of work
okbut: Tangentical point but (IMO) AI will also be free long before we see AGI, considering it will have to pay for its own electricity by the time it is autonomously working on optimizing itself, lest a developer pulls the plug over cost
ldj: There is always a gradient with everything though, each line of code, each flop of training compute, etc...
I think its unlikely that a single character change in code or a single extra flop of training will ever turn a system from something capable of doing 30% of jobs to 90%+ percent of jobs or something like that.
metaldragon01: This is one reason I think the takeoff job wise will be faster than expected.
okbut: Oh ya agree
The jumps between each might vary a lot though
ldj: Just because an AI model is capable of eventually turning itself into something that can do 90% of jobs, does not mean that it's currently capable of doing 90% of jobs.
ldj: It would still have whatever capability it has at that moment.
If the model can do 50% of jobs as good as the humans, then it can do 50% of jobs, the fact that it can self-improve is only relevant the the job percentages of the future versions of itself that are improved, not its current version.
okbut: A certain percent of capability where it reiterates on its own technological optimizations without instruction
I guess then there are moments in between
okbut: Sorry I'm a bit high so I might just be misinterpreting
okbut: What about a percent where this occurs
a1c4p0ne: I’m up 2700 from blackjack
ldj: in that case then it applies to my original statement still then:
> AI will be capable of doing 40% of jobs before it's capable of doing 50% of jobs.
> AI will be capable of doing 30% of jobs before it's capable of doing 40% of jobs.
> AI will be capable of doing 20% of jobs before it's capable of doing 30% of jobs.
trojan09205: Anyone have experience building graphRAG with neo4j
okbut: Instead of considering the overlap in capabilities angle I'd rather consider singularity angle
aero447: Once overlapping routine cognitive tasks fall, the reachable share of total work is far higher than the initial 50 % headcount.
aero447: Task re-bundling knocks out extra workers indirectly, because the remaining jobs change shape in ways some humans can’t match profitably.
ldj: When a land surveyor defines a body of water as a lake instead of a pond based on that 1 drop difference, there is no functional difference in the actual properties of that lake or pond compareds to a lake that is 2 drops above that boundary or 2 drops below.
But you are claiming that there **is** a functional difference from a literal 1 flop difference vastly changing the capabilities it can do
aero447: Skill overlap means you get a snowball effect: automating clerical documentation removes not just “clerks” but the 10-20 % of time every nurse, lawyer, engineer and manager spends on paperwork.
okbut: Not strict to that 49.99999% point though if that's what you mean
aero447: 😐
aero447: If an AI really can substitute for half of all workers, it has already mastered the common, transferrable tasks that account for more than half of total labour hours.
ldj: Thats for definitions yes, but definitions like that aren't functional.
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spicy.lemonade: ChatGPT is free bro
hey1_1hey: Boys, men, girls, women. I need your assisstance in something. Do you mine going to chatgpt and asking it what it would like to be called other than chatgpt?
joaoluz19: But we are not merely speculating here, there is plenty of research in this regard. Saying that it is bad research is already a step ahead of saying that it does not exist.
retrerox: Does this means i have Paid Gemini?
st.sioux: it's a discussion that requires speculation, it's about something that doesn't exist yet
retrerox: 😭
fractalcomputer: I apologise if I haven't used the clearest language to convey my meaning.
fractalcomputer: The accusation was that people make predictions on feelings here.
joaoluz19: The starting point was the accusation that most people take predictions as a feeling here, even though we are bombarded with statistical research on the evolution of AI every day here.
fractalcomputer: Now you are confusing two different conversations.
joaoluz19: I thought it was just based on emotions, we are seeing that this is not the case
fractalcomputer: A claim which remains to be demonstrated.
fractalcomputer: As others discussed just now in this chat, one can always find sources to argue for all sorts of things.
joaoluz19: The ideas converge with his
joaoluz19: And look, there is not just one source that supports these ideas, there are several
fractalcomputer: Then do not defer to Amodei or any other figure.
joaoluz19: There is no appeal to any authority here.
joaoluz19: I said benchmarks that are not from Anthropic, which was published yesterday here for example
fractalcomputer: (Notice the irony.)
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
st.sioux: you're trying to apply logic to something that by nature may transcend logic entirely
joaoluz19: Of the many that were put here, how many did you deny? The one from yesterday's LDJ of AI in 2027 for example
joaoluz19: Each of them has their own arguments, just to quote Dario "agents in 2027", "there will be no more programmers in 2027" there are already dozens of benchmarks showing the evolution over time in planning and agency capacity
spicy.lemonade: no one here will read
spicy.lemonade: im here for convo
fractalcomputer: lol
spicy.lemonade: yeah
nobranes: im here for schizo hype and nothing else
spicy.lemonade: no one is here for high brow phd 75 page paper
spicy.lemonade: if people want that they go to arxiv
fractalcomputer: You can reason together to get more rational and more informed answers, lol.
spicy.lemonade: no
fractalcomputer: Because you can put some effort into communicating with other people, lol.
spicy.lemonade: i dont go here to type research papers every message
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: why would we go on a deep data analysis on a discord server
fractalcomputer: Yes, because you *are* appealing to them as authority figures; you defer to their *authority* instead of justifying why *they* would be right.
oooooooooog: i won't forgive you for that
retrerox: I guess so. i do it sometimes
joaoluz19: It's not because you ignore the arguments that they are not cited, and when we cite people who have experience in the area (Dario, Sustkever, Kurzweil himsef that was chief scientist at Google) you say that we are "blindly following" what they are saying.
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maintcrew: the definition or whatever im aware i compile it anyway
trent_k: some chinese girl posted these in the r/chatgpt discord like a year or so ago. if someone could translate them to english but keep the handwriting that would be cool
maintcrew: ok last question is the community cool + do yall have a lot of packages or do i need to learn how to package gentoo packages myself
trent_k: i have a request for someone with 4o paypig tier
wellmeaningalien: nope sometimes i get stability issues when i dont update my packages in awhile and then update them but if u update semi regularly and have ur system configurated properly u should be fine to go
maintcrew: example: most youtube videos are now absolute slop with absolute slop thumbnail made by dall e
hey1_1hey: Someone who has access to it can you generate logos please 🙏
fractalcomputer: I suppose that I am to take this as good news?
ailoveyoom: Now it's goontech + logo generator 2.0 (+ some other things)
hikukomoru: That's why it's great
hikukomoru: Still is just goontech
hey1_1hey: I wonder how good its logos are now
maintcrew: last year laptop cpu but i'll be fine if i need it a lot i'll just spin up a cluster or some shit in my room
do u have any stability problems
trent_k: until today it was basically just goontech + a logo generator
wellmeaningalien: u already doxxed urself, hp lovecraft
hikukomoru: Yeah I'm sorry I gave Lovecraft a blackface 😔
spicy.lemonade: i could prob generate a 50 page batman comic now
hey1_1hey: Did they get the death penalty
ailoveyoom: Bro code
ailoveyoom: Don't disturb a man mid goon
spicy.lemonade: could generate comics for anyone
fractalcomputer: Someone in this community tried generating pictures of me without my knowledge.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: how
hey1_1hey: Thats DISGUSTING
wellmeaningalien: u have a good processor?
maintcrew: ai image generator is cool and all but it's literally mass slop generator
hey1_1hey: EWWWWW
wellmeaningalien: yes but beware those take a hell of a lot of time to compile lmao
fractalcomputer: An ethicist is a philosopher specialising in ethics.
hey1_1hey: Fractla if I could generate you and godel kissing would it change your mind?
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: slop???
fractalcomputer: Slop.
maintcrew: currently on arch linux but i really feel the itch of compiling everything on my computer myself
if i wanted to compile it with clang and the llvm toolkit is it possible
hey1_1hey: Whats an ethicist? Someone who is really racist or smth?
joaoluz19: Is stats applied math?
spicy.lemonade: and we have all this
spicy.lemonade: wow 3 months into 2025
fractalcomputer: Ah, a pure mathematician it is.
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hey1_1hey: Never heard of that place ngl. Prob just not int he UK
hikukomoru: Can't get fat if you can't eat fast food
hey1_1hey: Seanosing yes sauce no.
I never have condiments with anything
futurist_wizard: Why
zoermena: The only ones I’ve consistently liked are from whataburger
hikukomoru: This is one of the rare times I appreciate the fact that I can't enjoy 90% of food 🙏
hey1_1hey: I always feel like I am just eating bread and meat at the same time which just doesnt feel that good
futurist_wizard: You need a lot of seasoning and sauce to make bunger good
sieventer: in the next few days, dw
hey1_1hey: I always feel as if there is never a good ratio of meat to bun
futurist_wizard: Ive tried burgers from five guys they are meant to be good and they still don't taste like much
hey1_1hey: Nah its the singualrity trsut
zoermena: I always feel disgusted after eating burgers
wellmeaningalien: as if
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/minion-banan-water-gif-4374588345379655521
_cloudost: disappointed
futurist_wizard: Burgers are overrated
wellmeaningalien: i like burgers theyre tasty asf
futurist_wizard: Facts
hey1_1hey: And for all you mfs that make the bun bigger that the opening of your mouth... You sicken me
hey1_1hey: Burgers are so unbelievably overrated ngl
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cobson-soyjak-smoking-scary-dark-soy-gif-11486172598633092358
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164976879330152500/1360707124568527050/1910859898755174443-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif
wellmeaningalien: dear america.. if youre so cool.. then why BURGER.. checkmate america lol
hey1_1hey: I am supprised there are stupid people in America. Just be like "Whats that? You think the earth is flat? Let me introduce you to my fully automatic, 1000 rounds per miniute LMG"
gamerbath: this one is likely for developers only, but sama said they will ship tons of great stuff this week
_cloudost: so no o3?
hikukomoru: You couldn't pay me to move to America
hey1_1hey: Number 1 in heart disease 🦅 🦅 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔
futurist_wizard: Unliveable
futurist_wizard: The zoning in America is just so fucked up
hikukomoru: 60%**
hey1_1hey: 40% obesity rate <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
zonchao: we are always #1
futurist_wizard: What a trashy place
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/fat-man-shoot-gun-murica-usa-gif-11611613
futurist_wizard: I have only been to new york
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: thats just america
futurist_wizard: The people are big too
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