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metaldragon01: It kinda acts like a gpt model with outputs
metaldragon01: Well....it claims to be from openai so...ugh. who knows
metaldragon01: Only Google and kimi models have 1 mil context and only Google has a relationship with openrouter of those 2
zoermena: Pls
metaldragon01: There's a Google coding model dominating lymsys right now
zoermena: I just left work what’s this
literallyvarane: If this thing benchmarks well it could be Google, but 1M context isn’t a true signature for them. Could be some shit lab with a bad model they forced that context from too
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441
777agical: 🔥
metaldragon01: There's only 1 company that remotely fits the profile.
metaldragon01: Excited to announce our first-ever “stealth” model...
## Quasar Alpha 🥷
It’s a prerelease of an upcoming long-context foundation model from one of the model labs:
- **1M token** context length
- specifically optimized for coding but general-purpose as well
- available for **free**
This is the first time we’re enabling all OpenRouter users to try out a foundation model before it’s released publicly!
Please provide feedback in the Quasar Alpha [thread](https://discord.com/channels/1091220969173028894/1357398117749756017) in Discord to help our partner improve the model and shape what comes next, or comment on the X post: https://x.com/OpenRouterAI/status/1907870610602275203
⚠️ Important Note: All prompts and completions will be logged so we and the lab can better understand how it’s being used and where it can improve.
Try it. Build cool stuff. And let us know what you think
https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/quasar-alpha
fractalcomputer: I dislike this sort of activism.
metaldragon01: It's a 1 million context pre release coding model from a large lab.
It's obv the google coding model
hikukomoru: Terrifying?
spacetimetsunami: What do you think <@749514473303179358> ?
spacetimetsunami: True. I suppose I just think that this tone seems more likely to reflect the reality of AI in 2027/2028.
fractalcomputer: That's because it was written as such.
spacetimetsunami: This is terrifying
literallyvarane: ~1 hour in. I’m not buying much of anything this Scott guy is selling
777agical: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1907871479984705782?s=46
literallyvarane: Idk I’m into the podcast and these two aren’t selling me very much on their argument.
shirethedreamer: best interviews in the ai scene
shirethedreamer: didnt try it
st.sioux: is it good?
memlaswaif: It's a cool podcast <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
steven_the_frog: There goes my entire day
steven_the_frog: Oh boy we get a dwarkesh podcast companion to the ai-2027 story https://youtu.be/htOvH12T7mU?si=gjApOZBh8j30LSyZ
shirethedreamer: https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/quasar-alpha
shirethedreamer: anyway yeah he meant the new quasar release
shirethedreamer: true
retrerox: Elaborating stuffs are for AI's
shirethedreamer: leave
shirethedreamer: refuse to elaborate
shirethedreamer: dropped this bomb
shirethedreamer: came in
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/chad-gif-22427217
memlaswaif: <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
retrerox: ~~In that way i wont need to make 100 accounts using a temp mail service ~~
steven_the_frog: You talking about quasar?
shirethedreamer: you can easily use a cheaper or free service first that would help you decide
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futurist_wizard: All roads lead to hivemind giant computer planet
perish0801: Hopefully that happens
popsiclejohnithan: There are going to be a lot of Luddites against this, no doubt we will see violent terrorist attacks, they will lose because they will have inferior technology compared to those that embrace A.I. it's like when the Ottomans refused the printing press, you either move forward with everyone else like a rational person or you stagnate and die like a fool.
zonchao: https://x.com/hyhieu226/status/1914333155290763586?
perish0801: Will they ruin everything with their childish politics
perish0801: Will they not have revolutions
perish0801: The problem for me is will average people allow this shit to happen
perish0801: Just sleep until you get to a planet
perish0801: I mean yeah
perish0801: Well yeah
popsiclejohnithan: This as well.
hikukomoru: There is plenty of space in our solar system
perish0801: Oh yes
popsiclejohnithan: Full Dive Virtual Reality.
ailoveyoom: My story was petty tho, I was a kid and Jesus didn't help me with something kid me thought important at the time. So I just, idk, renounced my faith and started hating?? 💀 I criticized my fair share, but I think kid me was bitter/upset at 'god' too (or at least I needed someone else to blame besides myself). So I was def edgy 😔
The whole religion thing never worked on me either tbf, so maybe I was always going to leave that behind 🤷♂️
perish0801: No clue what that stands for
popsiclejohnithan: FDVR heaven.
perish0801: Cant wait
perish0801: Heaven being a place where you’ll live forever without a physical body
perish0801: You die and go to heaven
perish0801: So technically like heaven
perish0801: Yeah probably
popsiclejohnithan: By becoming somthing more than Human.
perish0801: How is population gonna be handled if we actually eliminate death of old age
popsiclejohnithan: I can see a lot of religious people refusing immortality and wanting to die honestly, seeing immortality as blasphemous.
futurist_wizard: Its identical to the christian religion, the world is fucked up, AGJesus will arrive and send all his followers to FDVR heaven
popsiclejohnithan: Once LEV is achieved there is going to be a lot of chaos in all the religious communities, they will lose their purpose because no one will be dying anymore, not from old age anyway.
perish0801: Oh yeah if you’re having a discussion or debate about religion then it’s fair game
st.sioux: when is it warranted tho
perish0801: So just making fun of their faith is kinda a dick move when it’s unwarranted
perish0801: I guess it’s cuz religious people truly believe in their religion and have faith
st.sioux: i feel like any slight criticism of religion will end up with you labeled as an "edgy atheist neckbeard"
perish0801: I pray five times a day
perish0801: Hell yeah
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: this ain't a cult goddamnit it's real okay!!!
himekokatagiri: idk never was religious
ailoveyoom: It's kinda funny, I drifted out of Christianity and became an edgy atheist in my early teens. I'm over that now, but here I am in this techno religion 😎
himekokatagiri: 😭
ailoveyoom: Himeko Katadaddy 😏
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himekokatagiri: I want a brand new MRE from the 1950s
alejandrozarzuelo: We repair almost all of it daily, we just accumulate a tiny bit
Even in your very senior years you repair 99% of the damage your DNA and cells reciebe
The only thing we need to do is make so that, the processes that already exist go from 99% to 100% or 100.1%
hikukomoru: That's just how awesome I am
himekokatagiri: Say any random one
hikukomoru: You know I just have so many feats it's hard to remember a specific one
himekokatagiri: lots of collectibles
himekokatagiri: <@688807313015963693> think about the stuff you can buy in the past too
sekirow: Current human longevity can only have 100 years is just way too boring
futurist_wizard: Our bodies do be getting dna damage tho
alejandrozarzuelo: Only in summer, I don't like the cold
himekokatagiri: I wrote cool adventure scenarios but straight tourism is fun too
alejandrozarzuelo: I would love to do time simulation tourism
himekokatagiri: Seat 124 wooooh
alejandrozarzuelo: We do this every day, it's crazy
himekokatagiri: I want to rent a seat
himekokatagiri: Spain in the 60s huh...
futurist_wizard: Because repairing our entire bodies down to each stem cell is just an ask, a extreme one
himekokatagiri: would you stay in the 60s for like a week
himekokatagiri: Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not eternal life, nothing lasts forever
himekokatagiri: tell me one feat of yours
himekokatagiri: No way!!!
alejandrozarzuelo: Why
hikukomoru: I am quite literally the most interesting person on the planet
alejandrozarzuelo: It means you have the exact same chance of dying, and yet you will have more life per life
himekokatagiri: you stay there for decades
futurist_wizard: The more i ponder about LEV and eternal life the more ridiculous it becomes
himekokatagiri: that's what I'm thinking
alejandrozarzuelo: Being old will be a privilege in the future
himekokatagiri: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: You can live a day there, you cannot spend decades there, without literally experiencing decades there
himekokatagiri: the highs and lows
himekokatagiri: the ups and downs
himekokatagiri: you'll live the golden age
futurist_wizard: Insano
himekokatagiri: If it's as good as the real thing what's the difference
himekokatagiri: I assume
himekokatagiri: scholars would do that
alejandrozarzuelo: That's the thing, that guy will have experienced it
himekokatagiri: 1945 - 2025
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_cloudost: he should have used Vidu its better at making 2d animation
spicy.lemonade: I LOVE GENERATING SLOP
anathemaofmankind: At least we are all high functioning
anathemaofmankind: I can confirm as another autist
hikukomoru: Really not beating the autist allegations
brain4brain: Everybody here is
brain4brain: Being in this server already mean you’re autistic
anathemaofmankind: Just find the soul in the AI Art
alejandrozarzuelo: I swear i am not autistic this is a joke
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe because we are a bunch of autists who drool at the idea of having centuries of mathematics being discivered every year
anathemaofmankind: If they were right about souls then AI detection shouldn't be a problem
brain4brain: People who say this are fucking annoying, they are coping
jonvi_1: https://x.com/pjaccetturo/status/1905151190872309907?s=46
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe? in my math department the closer you get to pure math the more excited people are about being replaced, the further you get the more threatened people feel
spicy.lemonade: Did nft even last a yesr
spicy.lemonade: Lol artists genuinely thought the ai bubble was like nft
brain4brain: Of exist continuously
spicy.lemonade: But there's a human in the mix
spicy.lemonade: Like nfts
spicy.lemonade: No promoting
brain4brain: It’s similar, uploading have no guarantee you’ll be the same “thing”
spicy.lemonade: Spitting out images on its own
jonvi_1: 2 minute lotr trailer as ghibli
spicy.lemonade: If so started
spicy.lemonade: I can understand the soul arguement
spicy.lemonade: Good stuff
futurist_wizard: No
brain4brain: Ship of Theseus computerize
jonvi_1: https://x.com/pjaccetturo/status/1905151190872309907?s=46 watch this (!)
brain4brain: Are you willing to delete yourself if one random person for a random country in Africa get to go to Heaven?
_3sphere: The giant lookup table, how might caching affect it, how much you can compress the mind to its "essentials" without removing consciousness, why all minds already don't live in thermal noise...
futurist_wizard: For some reason the mathematicians couldn't care about being replaced by ai but artists do? Maybe this is because mathematicians are already used to having machines do calculations they couldnt ever do?
_3sphere: Computationalism does have its issues though
alejandrozarzuelo: its great i can express my creativity easier
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: why would i be worried or threatened
_3sphere: The graphite is quantum entangled with the microtubules in your brain
brain4brain: I think Alejandro misinterpreted it as “let’s have kids” <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
(Joking)
alejandrozarzuelo: i do it for the fun of it
alejandrozarzuelo: I love making digital design
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okbut: Nothing tangible changed about the lake, but the land surveyor's choice did
okbut: Of course, it's the same for any philosophy
For example, there's 1 drop of water in difference for an instance where a land surveyor will define a body of water as a lake instead of a pond
okbut: I think it is possible for an AI to be framed so intelligently and autonomously that it can rewrite its own coding language, code, algorithms, etc etc, and compound its own performance (singularity territory), it's just that we're still so far from it
ldj: So do you believe it will 49.9999% capabilities, and then if you train it on just a single flop beyond that, then it immediately leaps to being able to do 90%+ capabilities
aero447: Work is:
A: Not evenly distributed
B: Has a LOT of overlap by necessity
Human society runs off of having a low barrier to entry for most work, because most work is done by humans with skillsets that are lower than 115iq.
aero447: Yes.
okbut: Now I understand your point though, that (for example) the metric of 51% is "impossible" because of the compounding ability of a hypothetical AGI
ldj: how old are you
aero447: Be amazed.
aero447: Look at the US census that tracks jobs.
ldj: I'll wait for you to provide a proof of that 👍
aero447: 69iq.
aero447: The end.
aero447: 50% encompasses too great a number of things for it not to be good at more because human work has too much overlap.
ldj: its not double speak, it's a clear sentence
ldj: yes
ldj: Incredibly capable at certain things while not as capable in other things.
aero447: It's doublespeak.
aero447: You fundamentally cannot have *only* 50% of tasks, at a certain stage the model is somehow incredibly adapatable and also not?
hikukomoru: Thank you oh wise one
ldj: <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
ldj: So at what percent sprinting do you think hopping is achieved?
aero447: Jobs have skill overlap.
aero447: It is.
aero447: Hopping is incredibly similar.
ldj: An analogy of sprinting to walking and jogging is not a comparable analogy in this conversation, since that's not represented as a gradient or percenatage like Job capabilities are here.
aero447: Sprinting is faster jogging which itself is faster walking.
aero447: ???
ldj: neither of those are percentages or gradients in your message
aero447: It'd be like saying oh I can sprint but can't hop, jog or walk.
okbut: I agree that there would be that exponential takeover, but it also further exacerbates my frustration with the common definition for AGI
aero447: 50% in a modern economy covers too many areas.
aero447: If it can do 50% it can easily do 90%.
ldj: You can just say everybody gets large welfare paychecks, I think that communicates the point better for people that don't know what UBI is <:berk:750111476483752166>
aero447: There is a HUGE skill overlap.
aero447: Think about the types of work in an economy.
okbut: I said "Socialist" as a means of assuming nobody knew what UBI is lol
aero447: No, you misunderstand, 50% is impossible.
ldj: Do you mean like 100% socialist or communism?
Because the current US system as well as most first world countries already have socialist governance integrated, it just hasn't taken over 100% of the government.
okbut: I don't know, it might be easy to say that all modern jobs are automated to a certain percent, the way that is gauged is a bit subjective though
For example, agriculture in the US
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hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bad-night-evil-grandma-sleep-loose-bed-bugs-baller-gif-8762809301589791796
alejandrozarzuelo: Either that or we aren't taking the same test
oooooooooog: i only missed 8 though 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: Apparently
oooooooooog: ur joking
oooooooooog: bruh
alejandrozarzuelo: 28 is slightly autistic
oooooooooog: im literally god
oooooooooog: i got 28
technocake.: 24
hey1_1hey: Anyway off to bed for me. Gotta let that learning juice sink into my brain
hey1_1hey: Now I am just a masochist thank you
hey1_1hey: I mean if everyone was the same that'd be alright yanno
hikukomoru: Some kind of fungi supremacist then huh
hey1_1hey: I fucking hate diversity
futurist_wizard: Otherwise celebrate your
hikukomoru: I love it
hikukomoru: You're such a bitch Alejandro
hey1_1hey: 4o got me tweaking tho
hey1_1hey: Way past it
alejandrozarzuelo: Being pedantic is like half of my personality
hey1_1hey: Is actually
alejandrozarzuelo: Why not
hikukomoru: Isn't it about bedtime for you
Go to bed
futurist_wizard: No more 'urm acklly 🤓' remarks Alejandro, their hurtful and destructive
hey1_1hey: Totattly normal "human" (whatever they are) thing to do. Break someones arm and laugh
hikukomoru: I don't know what a phycopath is
hey1_1hey: What are you a phycopath?
hikukomoru: It would be my joy
hikukomoru: Why would I feel bad
alejandrozarzuelo: I love new things
hey1_1hey: Then I would kick you and win
alejandrozarzuelo: ? Why
hey1_1hey: You'd feel really bad because you just broke my arm
hikukomoru: Most autistic neurotypical there is
hey1_1hey: Then what
hey1_1hey: Then you have a broken arm in your hand?
futurist_wizard: You need to get your act together
futurist_wizard: Well your behaviour is unacceptable Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: I took the 50 question one
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hey1_1hey: You haven't seen anything yet, wait until you hear about quantam physics in material science
hikukomoru: Don't worry you will be able to change genders instantly in the future
zoermena: I´m going to get harder than a PhD Physics problem.
hey1_1hey: I beg
trent_k: lacking the self awareness to install grindr
hey1_1hey: The real question is why you aren't
hey1_1hey: They are really hot
hikukomoru: Make anime mushroom girl
zoermena: Why are yall sending femboys.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/egirl-valoran-egirl-fps-egirl-fps-anime-egirl-valorant-anime-egirl-gif-5607647411938375019
spicy.lemonade: This is likely 4o so it won’t do well
trent_k:
_wwwwww: https://tenor.com/view/%E6%B3%A3%E3%81%8F-%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8F%E3%81%84%E3%81%84-%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%AE%E5%AD%90-%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88-%E5%98%98-gif-13901060367924981492
spicy.lemonade: Give it a relatively easy one
hey1_1hey: That couldnt go wrong
hey1_1hey: Just pretend to be a women on the internet
spicy.lemonade: Solve arc agi question
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/colors-wit-studio-pairo-colors-gif-comp-sci-transition-boy-to-girl-anime-gif-1324653471667193829
_wwwwww: what if life on mars was possible?
zoermena: I´ll make images for yall I have plus, just tag me. Disclaimer the servers are in a coma so I might take a while.
spicy.lemonade: Rip r/ufo
_wwwwww: i need fucking money
hey1_1hey: Hes just like me fr
_wwwwww: yes
hikukomoru: "I wish to be an anime girl"
_wwwwww: c mon
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: yup
sarik0497: Bro, is that generated? Unreal
_wwwwww: I wish to be an anime girl, i wish anime was real
_wwwwww: CUTE
wellmeaningalien: NSFW
_wwwwww: singularity is now
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> <@430269783112548362> youre gonna love this one
wellmeaningalien: warning
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: Loll
wellmeaningalien:
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hikukomoru: Yeah
His prediction is AGI before 2029
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-dancing-cat-chinese-dancing-cat-funny-cat-meme-cat-gif-18059553370350307210
alejandrozarzuelo: didnt he make that estimation in like the 90s or smth?
joaoluz19: Yeah I think it's fair
sarik0497: Ah, I see.
Well, I do get what he's trying to say, but I just disagree with him. Nothing hints at the fact that emotions make us smarter. If anything, it does the opposite, as we are far more prone to not read up on things we disagree with.
zoermena: Game trailers channel on YouTube has a lot of good stuff
joaoluz19: I lost the print but they sent it here in the chat
joaoluz19: Companies like Sesame simulate emotions, what LeCun said when asked was that they would actually feel emotions not just simulate them.
sarik0497: I mean, to be fair, isn't that what some of the companies are trying to push atm?
joaoluz19: Or experts sometimes say nonsense, like LeCun didn't elaborate when he said that the next models would have real emotions, like humans.
sarik0497: Similar vibes to "I'm not that smart of a guy. I once got a few Bs while attending Stanford." <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
joaoluz19: Hmm, really strange, it's also clear that he's getting very old and maybe it's the product of cognitive decline :/
memlaswaif: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
ldj: I don't like the word expert, but I do have several years of experience leading AI research at various companies, including research in language models, multi-modal models, post-training and synthetic data.
sarik0497: That's the thing. He didn't specify at all. He just said that we won't be losing our jobs to AI because they'll become part of us and make us much smarter. The interviewer then asked if we'd need surgery and Kurzweil said "No", and then later also stated that it won't be "like a hat, or a helmet" you need to take off either.
agezes: hey guys, im looking for a platformer type game, any recomendations? adventure, platforms, not much shooting, 3d....
joaoluz19: The GOAT
joaoluz19: What technology is this that he said we need to multiply our intelligence then?
zoermena: IMO yes
memlaswaif: Is <@312370916820779040> an ai expert <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
joaoluz19: Aaaah it was the opposite, I understand
sarik0497: Yup. Nanobots and such will come later, and in the 2040s we will be merged entirely with them.
sarik0497: Oh, I think you misunderstood my comment. I tried to say that if these experts in the fields are all just hyping up the products, then why would some of them even go retire because of AGI being imminent.
agezes:
joaoluz19: Wait, Ray said we're going to multiply our intelligence without like nanobots?
sarik0497: I didn't read his book, so I can't really say. My reply was built on his recent interview (although I still have my doubts about his predictions. Like one of them is that we won't be replaced with AI because we'll become part of it and get so much smarter, but without surgery and without having to wear anything.)
joaoluz19: You asked why there are no much experts who have given up everything to enjoy life, that's what I answered.
joaoluz19: But doesn't he adjust his predictions in the new book with updated data for his statistical inferences? I don't believe he just continued with the timelines without updating formal calculations.
sarik0497: Never claimed that. But it's clear that some people working in the field feel sure enough that AGI is here very soon that they'd go enjoy life until then, as they know others will continue to push onwards.
joaoluz19: We are not yet at the point where no one needs to do anything, AGI, where the deadline is exactly 2 years from now. I think that is consistent with their temporal beliefs. If they stopped today we would not have AGI in 2 years. Furthermore, for many people, I also believe that many of them simply cannot just "enjoy life", if they are not constantly pursuing these things they do not feel well psychologically.
sarik0497: To be fair, Kurzweil didn't really say that it wasn't gonna happen earlier. It felt more like he stuck to that estimation based on nostalgia, as his reply to the question whether he'd change it or not was basically just him talking about what happened when he said it for the first time, and concluded with that it's "a conservative estimation".
sarik0497: While a lot of people use the "Oh, but they just wanna have more money poured into their products" sthick, and I agree with them to some degree, it's also worth pointing out that a few of said experts have left their respective fields entirely to go enjoy their lives beforehand. A bit weird if you just wanna hype a product you don't work with anymore.
memlaswaif: I'd trust them less
sarik0497: Ngl, I'd trust the companies far more in such a case then.
joaoluz19: That's right, and if I'm not mistaken, even Kurzweil didn't advance the timelines.
memlaswaif: what r u trying to tell us
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
zonchao: 😏
ldj: look into bilocation
hikukomoru: Isn't the average prediction something like 2030
That's a pretty good date, it's relatively soon
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wellmeaningalien: like there seems to be thought behind the images instead of what most image generation models seem to be doing
wellmeaningalien: its as if a human is coming up with these and creating them
wellmeaningalien: you can really tell all these images are being created intelligently
zoermena: I literally hate myself the only reason I keep going is because I have a job and make money.
wellmeaningalien: hungry
zoermena: Nothing goes right for me ever I hate myself.
wellmeaningalien: sleep
wellmeaningalien: thats funny lmao
zoermena: Man this is not working for me what the fuck, why can´t I make images.
wellmeaningalien: can gpt 4.5 generate images? or does it just route to gpt 4o or something
wellmeaningalien: DAMN.
.histic: i feel like 4o can make great websites
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o just came onto the scene and solved text in image generation like that
.histic:
burnytech: Wow https://fxtwitter.com/fabianstelzer/status/1904629831125656050
maintcrew: do we have millions of indians photo shopping the text on top of the generated images wtf is happening
spicy.lemonade: 4d cube
spicy.lemonade: tesseract
maintcrew: genuinely how is it so good with text
zoermena: What´s a hyper cube?
spicy.lemonade: by 90 degrees
spicy.lemonade: along x axis
spicy.lemonade: then rotate it
spicy.lemonade: someone ask it to draw a hyper cube
wellmeaningalien: yes
hey1_1hey: Is this 4o ?
spicy.lemonade: this is too good
wellmeaningalien: theyll be burnt to a crisp
wellmeaningalien: artists wont be replaced
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: Amazing!
zoermena: Thanks!
zoermena: But I´m talking about Sora.
_cloudost: yed it's real
_cloudost: Veo 2 unlimited in 3 months for free
zoermena: Please confirm I´m not insane.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lain-serial-experiments-lain-gangnam-style-gif-6107123719892210526
_cloudost: dw artists wont be replaced ||because this is slope /s||
zoermena: What the fuck, unlimited sora videos for plus?
hikukomoru: LAIN???
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spicy.lemonade: im turning all my latex papers into ghibli
_3sphere: Medieval manuscript but with anime
spicy.lemonade: for research papers
spicy.lemonade: this should become a standard
spicy.lemonade: i like this
spicy.lemonade:
memlaswaif: <:PeepoHide:825752147777814528>
seventales: are you fucking talking about me
memlaswaif: She's basically the physics version of David shapiro, very opinionated person but it's the wrong opinion 90% of the time and also doesn't like to accept when she's wrong
precariousworlds.: I remember she made a video about the decline of Germany and went into a tangent on how Germany needs to be 'feared' again lmaooo
spacetimetsunami: You can too you just gotta start from the beginning and do a little reading
ailoveyoom: I bet you watch PBS Space Time and unironically get what the guy is talking about on first watch
ailoveyoom: Did you watch her physics videos before she turned weird 🥺
_3sphere: Her videos used to be good 😔
maintcrew: stg dont under why ppl listen to sabine
maintcrew: both persons are incredibly annoying
spicy.lemonade: breaking news citizen seen arrested and stolen from family
trump: its ai lol
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/goon-squad-forever-lowtiergod-gif-2751141700300984799
spicy.lemonade: "its ai"
spicy.lemonade: anything that happens
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: i bet the trump admin is gonna love this
hikukomoru: Goon squad*
_3sphere: MichMach, Komoru, Cloudo, WWWWWW are the local weeb squad I guess
ailoveyoom: Hey 🐕🦺
spacetimetsunami: Why did she get out of physics?
_3sphere: The vibe was too weird to have much fun with it
memlaswaif: she's been ostracised out of the physics community, she joined the ai community but does the same shit
spacetimetsunami: Like they’re unable to see why the massive progress is super implicative for the future
spacetimetsunami: I think they just have shitty imaginations
spicy.lemonade: sabine and gary are both top tier copers
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> hey 🫦 🫦
memlaswaif: sabine downfall is saddening
ailoveyoom: Sabine didn't mention Claude 😔
spicy.lemonade: 4o image cooked
spicy.lemonade: "the day is comming guys"
spicy.lemonade: just
spicy.lemonade: no evidence to back up his claim
spicy.lemonade: LOLL
spicy.lemonade:
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hey1_1hey: Couldn't even do that right
hey1_1hey: Good job
hey1_1hey: Rarted
futurist_wizard: Literally everyone here is autistic ridden
alejandrozarzuelo: But I do really like this new pfp, it really fits my personality
hikukomoru: I know you're rarted like that
hey1_1hey: This mf always creeped me out
futurist_wizard:
technocake.: guys don't bully autists its mean
hey1_1hey: I got a borderline speech impediment because I talk at the speed of sound
futurist_wizard: But you cannot tell...
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not taking it very seriously don't worry
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm NOT AUTISTIC
futurist_wizard: Alejandro we are just teasing you
hikukomoru: I can imagine you have a lisp too
alejandrozarzuelo: (bi tho also I am not queer)
hey1_1hey: AUTIST AUTIST AUTIST
alejandrozarzuelo: I can literally imagine me doing this exact same pose being pedantic
technocake.: jk jk you are gay and cool
futurist_wizard: I don't dislike it
hikukomoru: I hate it because it looks like you
hey1_1hey: Well that's just uncalled for
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude no
alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you dislike it? I think it's so cute
technocake.: like the real alejandro?
hikukomoru: Electric Discharge
hey1_1hey: Who's gonna tell him
futurist_wizard: Erectile dysfunction
alejandrozarzuelo: Ah
zoermena: I can’t write darn
hey1_1hey: And that
hikukomoru: You're making me hate you even more
alejandrozarzuelo: What is ED
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
hikukomoru: Don't forget the ED 🥀
futurist_wizard: Do you have to take viagra Alejandro, we can all be honest here
technocake.: shit ok
hey1_1hey: He looks gay and annoying
hey1_1hey: Alejandro I am begging you to change it
alejandrozarzuelo: Our hospitals are definitely very unique
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popsiclejohnithan: I bet you're literally Lovecraft resurrected irl.
fractalcomputer: You can judge me if you'd like.
futurist_wizard: Why is there a he him option on HER
alejandrozarzuelo: ._.
if i speak i am in big trouble so i wont
futurist_wizard: It is different
popsiclejohnithan: You will truly never know the people behind these screens until you meet them in person, text is text, only a fraction of the real deal.
fractalcomputer: Sure. That's because I put up no pretense on here. You talk to homosexuals in real life, you pretend you feel about the current thing just as much as they do and you text with them about meaningless things.
alejandrozarzuelo: you say this as this wasnt the same phenomenon in all dating apps
hikukomoru: I would use HER but it's filled with men
futurist_wizard: The people that are attracted to that app are deranged
alejandrozarzuelo: but who am i to judge as i dont know you
alejandrozarzuelo: you personally seem drier than the sahara
hikukomoru: Isn't it just a smex app
fractalcomputer: Emotions can be faked.
ailoveyoom: Enemies to lovers 🥺
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe
alejandrozarzuelo: idk
alejandrozarzuelo: but
futurist_wizard: Math Rizz
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think you are a very passionate and emotional person
fractalcomputer: Oh yes, Alejandro, I am as willing to engage in homoromantic activities as you are.
precariousworlds.:
futurist_wizard: Users of Grindr have serious issues, i would never use such an app
fractalcomputer: I don't understand.
alejandrozarzuelo: passionate? that seems hard to believe but i guess i dont know you
precariousworlds.: how your messages read
fractalcomputer: What is Microsoft Sam Rizz?
hikukomoru: It's only the most basic and essential function if you're a caveman maybe
precariousworlds.: ?
fractalcomputer: What?
precariousworlds.: microsoft sam rizz didnt work out 😔 😔 😔
popsiclejohnithan: These images have been one of the greatest gifts from A.I.
fractalcomputer: I can't see how you would enjoy their presence. I've tried chatting with my local homosexuals, but oftentimes our worlds are simply far too different to allow for any meaningful contact.
precariousworlds.: unironically
fractalcomputer: You are free to express your unorthodox moral ideas here. I don't judge, and I'm sure you can defend yourself in arguments.
popsiclejohnithan: how dare you sick react me Precarious, Slaanesh would be disappointed.
fractalcomputer: I saw a clip of this African American man in Mongolia.
hikukomoru: For now
hikukomoru: But I'll behave
hikukomoru: You can't post something like that and not expect me to laugh
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.histic: isn't it like a what if?
.histic: that seems way too theoretical for me.
joaoluz19: The problem is that the theory assumes infinite computation, I'm looking at how Shane Legg approaches the problem of finite computation. Obviously he didn't solve it because if he did we would already have an ASI
joaoluz19: Man, I'm loving this work that Ilya recommended so much, as I said, it's from a co-founder and head of AGI at Deepmind, his doctoral thesis I think.
xskydragon0: This thing is already real?
joaoluz19: It is an extension of Solomonoff induction which is the ability of systems to completely predict any sequence that has a computable probability distribution. AIXI, in addition to what is called passive forecasting - the agent predicts that the market will appreciate but does not have the money to change the market - has the ability to act relevantly in the forecast itself.
joaoluz19: It is a mathematical formalism of a theory of universal agents, that is, those that are capable of acting optimally in all environments.
joaoluz19: It was exactly this kind of discussion about ASI that I was looking for, instead of blind speculation it is possible to formally demonstrate for example that a general agent is Pareto optimal i.e can't perform well in all environments and be the best in one
.histic: explain
joaoluz19: Does anyone know about AIXI? Crazy that there were already _mathematical_ models of super intelligent agents
himekokatagiri: I would never fight for reddit
sarik0497: Have you heard of the Reddit Name War?
Such a horrible war…
.histic: 2017 was 20 years ago.
himekokatagiri: barely a decade ago
himekokatagiri: how
.histic: damn you're ancient
himekokatagiri: 2017 - 2019
himekokatagiri: I'm a veteran
himekokatagiri: I fought in the discord wars.
realelonmuskx: every day im forced to survive to keep chasing fleeting hits of dopamine because i have a biological debt with this duct taped dumb ass human body
joaoluz19: It's from the chief AGI scientist of Deepmind lol
joaoluz19: If your future self survives the singularity, he will thank them
.histic: 🥺 aw, it gave up. maybe next time buddy.
.histic:
.histic: i wonder when a model will be able to think then output and think again then output within the same prompt.
realelonmuskx: so my parents basically condemned me for irrational reasons to witness the earth (has been spining 4,500,000,000 years) spinning a floating fireball 80 times. horrific tragedy sitcom.
.histic: another interesting thing is how much less tokens 2.5 Pro uses than o3 and even o4-mini in some of these tasks.
like imagine if it used even more thinking tokens.
joaoluz19: Machine super intelligence is from 2008
.histic: i think they may have rerun it because in their offline test, 2.5 pro now scores higher in IQ than o3.
it's only the public IQ test that o3 scores higher.
spicy.lemonade: 50 years in ai time
ldj: Recommended by him back in like 2019 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
joaoluz19: Top 30 papers recomended per Ilya
xskydragon0: Because that I'm became a believer that AI will arrive soon... It Moore Law...
xskydragon0: May the force be with us
futurist_wizard: Yea, who is
clevermoniker: 2 more years <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
xskydragon0: I'm have this feeling too. I think in five years we aren't prepared to it...
clevermoniker: really? i mean, it does seem like minimally useful at least
realelonmuskx: yes. until 2027 we good
.histic: when can we expect models that can spend hours or even weeks contemplating or solving a problem? i assume such models would require context windows exceeding ten million tokens, while maintaining coherent reasoning throughout. Google appears to be moving in this direction more rapidly than other labs.
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anathemaofmankind: I don't think you're aware how far it goes.
It's not just names, some of them go out of their way to try and ruin careers of AI artists
zoermena: No, this is a fundamental change in the world, you only allow yourself to be offended by twitter people.
hikukomoru: Getting called names on xitter is not the same thing as getting beaten up at school
anathemaofmankind: That's like saying students should just take bullying lying down because school is gonna end after a few years
hikukomoru: Why does that matter
AGI is getting here either way
zoermena: How? We are fundamentally right, AI is poised to achieve AGI in our lifetimes. We have to prove nothing, the world will show itself
anathemaofmankind: Then we're just gonna get bullied and ostracized
zoermena: They do say that it’s not great to fight toxic by going toxic
hikukomoru: You really live up to your name "anathemaofmankind"
anathemaofmankind: The reaction here should be to adapt to it.
Giving death threats to people just because they're using AI tools, makes them the POS in my view.
And I don't care about POS lives
zoermena: Real asf
hikukomoru: Go home and generate more 4o images 👍
zoermena: Yeah fuck it
hikukomoru: Because my fate is the same as theirs
All of us are getting replaced
It's just that artists are among the first
anathemaofmankind: If you go to twitter and ask artists there how many of us they'd like to die, a lot would say the same words.
Why are you defending people who hate you?
zoermena: The other choice is waiting 15 minutes
zoermena: Chat should I go home, my classroom is locked and my digestive system is not working with me
hikukomoru:
anathemaofmankind: Well I don't consider luddites as "people"
anathemaofmankind: Yeah but fuck twitter artists in particular
hikukomoru: Controversial opinion: I think people starving to death is bad actually
realelonmuskx: bro everyone is going to be automated, i wouldnt laugh at bros misfortune
anathemaofmankind: Do you care about the luddites
jonvi_1: JFK assasination
hikukomoru:
anathemaofmankind: I'm not as bad as <@378996537704841216>
futurist_wizard: Cultish
a1c4p0ne: 4o image replaces the shitty logo creators on fiverr
777agical: https://x.com/fofrai/status/1905039379581538582
anathemaofmankind: I wouldn't feel any sympathy if all the luddite artists lose all their jobs and starve to death
.histic: i think most artist are pretentious and now speciest.
a shoggoth being able to create better art than them makes them feel worthless despite them not being able to make livable money in the first place.
first, they hated other artist, now they hate the machines which makes them want to band against each other.
hikukomoru: Based
Replace us now 🙏 🔥
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-robot-looking-flex-cool-robot-gif-978532213316794273
a1c4p0ne: I used to take art
a1c4p0ne: True
_cloudost: Before AI era they used to hate each other because of competition and the fact that their art style resembled each other
.histic: they really don't.
i don't really know why they complain.
hikukomoru: What about them
Everyone else currently studying something is going to have their efforts be for nothing in 5-10 years
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: I heard artists don’t make much
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drewsni: - 5-10x the price
- now session based with a 50 session (5 hour per session) limit. So a max user paying $200 can theoretically be limited for the whole month after 50 messages over 12 days.
- they broke previous chats for people who upgraded
- file token size limit is 1/4 of what it used to be, even for max users
- people reporting 1200 LOC scripts pasted as context being rejected for being too large
literallyvarane: Yeah wait what actually happened? Can I have a TLDR?
wolf3404: Did that really happen? Ooff
metaldragon01: And I don't see them competing with Google in enterprise. They will likely get acquired
futurist_wizard:
metaldragon01: Anthropic learned way too late that good products matter
drewsni: Imagine upgrading to get bigger context lengths and instead it breaks your history lmao
drewsni: I mean it’s so bad when you legitimately fuck over your most eager users that instantly subscribe to the 10x the price plan. I’m almost certain that those people who had projects hit the chat limit all of a sudden after upgrading, will lose those chats permanently
metaldragon01: They are lucky gemini coder wasn't announced today
metaldragon01: Of course. The sub reddit isn't happy and the timing couldn't be worse
drewsni: Genuinely the launch is going so poorly I think it could collapse the company. Have you been following today?
metaldragon01: O wait...
metaldragon01: And that google not openai was their main rival
metaldragon01: Who could have ever guessed that anthropic would be in danger....
literallyvarane: Anthropic inferencing their whole customer base on a 1070ti
literallyvarane: Do they even /have gpus?
drewsni: Wow Anthropic sucks
drewsni: https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/11014257-about-claude-s-max-plan-usage
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: i sleep
wellmeaningalien: trump's all bark tho so
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849
wellmeaningalien: boys we getting nuclear war before ASI
futurist_wizard: COME TO BRAZIL!
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: STOP THE COUNT!
futurist_wizard: DO NOT RETALIATE AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED
literallyvarane: Presumably Google does get massive alpha from having truly full control over their hardware. You’d assume the TPUs they announced today are *super* well suited for Gemini models in particular.
literallyvarane: I’d really love to have the fully honest opinion from either leads at Google or OpenAI and see which they feel is actually the better hardware, or if it’s just case-by-case.
wellmeaningalien: w ilya
literallyvarane: I’m wondering if that’s their entire platform, or if they only need them for something niche.
literallyvarane: Curious, apparently SSI uses TPUs?
literallyvarane:
_cloudost: Is it just me or does everyone else here experience the same
_cloudost: Wonder why
_cloudost: OpenAI's image generator generates images pretty fast now
hikukomoru: Relatable
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/vrchat-fliptripp-fliptrip-vrchat-fliptrip-schizo-gif-21149605
hikukomoru:
aero447: 😐
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drewsni: Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if somehow we end up with Google and oai being the only two model providers in 3 years
benata: I fucking hate sam altman now and hope and wish Google destroys their competition
ailoveyoom: Inb4 you all pull a 4.5 and start liking the feature 😭
gamerbath: definetly interesting, but just not something that matters to me
gamerbath: it's always something boring 😞
gamerbath: and then this bruh
gamerbath: bro said this
aero447: 😉
aero447: Yes MichMach we all remember when you did that.
futurist_wizard: Rugpull
ailoveyoom: 🤷♀️
ailoveyoom: Lol the image
777agical: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1910380942352334976?s=46
sweetievee__33649: again*
sweetievee__33649: europre being lil and stupid
.0xunkn0wn: ofc no eea 😭
.0xunkn0wn: damn
zoermena: I don’t have new memory yet
sweetievee__33649: this is why we need AI to regognise when to pull form memories imagine you and your robot buddy are talking and it randomly mentions your deepest darkest secrets when you got your date over
ailoveyoom: There's no way to turn it off??
ailoveyoom: Omg remember that time you shit your pants (says your friend during a wedding)
literallyvarane: What’s the point of projects if the model is accessing *literally everything*? What if I actually want segmented chats?
sweetievee__33649: i think it also needs to realise that it doesnt always need to pull from memories like imagine how annoying it would be if everyone you talked to referenced the last thing they remember about you
ailoveyoom: You can keep that on by default? How??
literallyvarane: Why isn’t there a catalog of all the art you’ve generated for example?
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: They need better organizing tbh. This is awful.
literallyvarane: No, the *real* issue is that it’s universal.
ailoveyoom: The memory stuff itself isn't bad, the real question is does the AI know which memory is important/necessary/to pull from 😔
literallyvarane: It’s also not able to identify the name of the chats it’s pulling from.
literallyvarane: It’s accessing stuff from projects I think? Even in the general chat outside of that project.
literallyvarane: Yeah this is bad lolololo
sweetievee__33649: silly little regulations prob
technocake.: GDPR probably
ailoveyoom: I don't really use memory, idk why. I mean it SEEMS useful, but I've just never really felt like I needed it.
ailoveyoom: We can't turn it off?
sweetievee__33649: ok yeah that does seem annoying actually
anathemaofmankind: It's OpenAI over
anathemaofmankind: But they hype this one up
anathemaofmankind: Such as 4o image gen
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okbut: Those first 6 tests weren't with the goal of apogee
a1c4p0ne: Disappointment
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/arcprize/status/1911863981683384485?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
zonchao: no, they've tried 8 times, the new in incidents are the new block 2 variant with thousands of changes, they are iterative design enjoyers they literally launch every month doesn't matter for them... if any other company failed it's a 6month-1year reset
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Claude will be left behind
okbut: Always just before SECO
okbut: They're having pressure issues behind the engines
okbut: They've tried twice now, it keeps blowing up
a1c4p0ne: 💯
zonchao: well starship is not sent into orbit because it's not safe enough yet, not that they can't do it
okbut: It's a hilarious converse operation where SpaceX is putting private entities in orbit and Shephard doesn't
Meanwhile BO (New Glenn) can reach orbit but can't land, Starship can land but can't orbit
zonchao: tbh spacex doesn't do half assed stunts like this <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: wait, 2.0 pro is still better.. lol
.histic: nice
giuven95: OpenAI is washed
st.sioux: they included 4.1 in the complimentary tokens thingy
otub: o4-mini and o3 should be soon (this week)
okbut: God damn it
otub: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136230110891081821/1361405857845219409/image.png?ex=67fea382&is=67fd5202&hm=9f13416eb5362b91b21e834b0f883af2009e29caeaf9f86fd2420d94a48397ad&
otub: <https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/>
otub: 1 mil context, and api only
otub: gpt-4.1
okbut: I was so locked in for exams I forgot about the first day of ship week
What did OAI drop
zoermena: I bought my first steam game lets see how it goes
fractalcomputer: He's lost it to the ethicists.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/asus-msi-obi-wan-sith-destroy-gif-18039908123598928186
metaldragon01: Hopefully much cheaper and close to quality though
metaldragon01: I'm pretty excited about it but not expecting much better than veo 2
okbut: Imagine being stuck in this compact acoustic chamber with this noise
https://x.com/fopminui/status/1911983797437898796
zoermena: If Kling 2 is good enough I might play with it this month but I dislike the UI
okbut: She could be
She's spent nearly 3x as much on flights
One airline burns the fuel of one launch within a few hours too
zoermena: More importantly I think, if there’s no direct way to use it in the Google advanced plan then there’s like no point in just trying randomly hoping to get a video
_cloudost: Kling 2 willl be here in 2:19:00 hours
_cloudost: Honestly if Kling 2 releases a better model today who cares about Veo 2
zoermena: My prompt was just an astronaut flying <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
_cloudost: Either this is a new restriction or your prompt was actually against the guidelines
zoermena: I suppose that was before it got blocked
_cloudost: Then why did people generate animated living things jn the Gemini server
zoermena: Even if cartoonish
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hey1_1hey: Even the mugger here can't do there job proberly
hey1_1hey: He'd also get banned for talking about applied mathamatics
hikukomoru: God Britain sounds like such a shithole
.wolfnacht: best case scenario
hey1_1hey: So a shit ol
hey1_1hey: Wales
hey1_1hey: I do remember that one time where some guy was like "Gimmie your walet mandem or I'll chef you up you ere' me bruv?" and I just said "No..." and walked away
_cloudost: I apologize for referring to you as 'Kom' earlier—that was unintentional and not at all my intent. As an AI, I strive to be accurate and respectful in our interactions, and I appreciate your patience as I work to improve. Let me know how I can assist you properly!
st.sioux: tank got erectile dysfunction
futurist_wizard: What part of the uk?
.histic: the muzzle is kinda bent
hikukomoru: Sama would get banned by Fractal for posting too many naked men
hey1_1hey: Kind of us, I have been mugged nad threated with a knife on many occassian
oooooooooog: wtf is ts br lmao
.wolfnacht: imagine, sama or any google dev opens this server, thinking ppl here must be having thoughtful chat's
hikukomoru: British every day experience
hey1_1hey: This just looks like "attacked by armed knife weilding lunatic"
.histic:
st.sioux: trichotillomania wojak
hey1_1hey: I am litterly on my knees for sama. I just want to have access to the new shiny tool
.wolfnacht: idk i only got this version of this wojack
.wolfnacht: literally him
hikukomoru: Greetings
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-22114363
clevermoniker: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057705144457908252/1354494686932500660/Gm-UnJHbYAMPU9X.png?ex=67e57efa&is=67e42d7a&hm=380ebc4efc6f5c9985ffc13bbe14e70737d796f20c3fd9ae24464bd8fcf03a5b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=968&height=968
ailoveyoom: Nice to meet you cum 👋
hey1_1hey: Its too late, you have now been nick named "cum" when adding a note to someone profile
hikukomoru: My name is not cum
st.sioux: this <@1004153620025065482>
st.sioux:
futurist_wizard: Youth don't know half life
wellmeaningalien: half life 2?
hey1_1hey: Giving me "pre-great fire of londan" vibes
wellmeaningalien: slightly better yea
futurist_wizard: Fuck is that
st.sioux: is this from alita?
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: I belive it
st.sioux: I wish I could explain to them that rejecting progress won't fix the world, as flawed as we are or as the technology could be
.wolfnacht: i look like this btw
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futurist_wizard: Its like the clock got a 1.5x multiplier
alejandrozarzuelo: I feel the opposite really
There are so many things that it seems like the past 5 years have been a decade
joaoluz19:
futurist_wizard: Post covid time flies by so fast its crazy
hey1_1hey: Rememnber to write me in your will 💀
hey1_1hey: Imagine being that old
alejandrozarzuelo: Time flies, that's why it's so gross and decomposes food
hikukomoru: 2004
hey1_1hey: Did you know 2010 was 25 years ago?
futurist_wizard: You were 2005, shocking
alejandrozarzuelo: You know, you don't have to be a boomer to understand things from the XXth century
Just saying
futurist_wizard: Nobody else will have triple 0's date of birth for time
hikukomoru: Fuck
Still can't believe 2001 was 35 years ago
joaoluz19: MJ is a bitch, played with our poor Peter
okbut: OAI will add a button to UI and still leave in a useless modal
joaoluz19:
futurist_wizard: 2000 for me
hey1_1hey: Mary jane?
hey1_1hey: Thanks for letting us know
alejandrozarzuelo: Math
alejandrozarzuelo: Like guys do the Mary
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
futurist_wizard: You were born in 2001 yes?
hikukomoru: Can you just give us your age
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk seems easy to understand
alejandrozarzuelo: That's what it means
alejandrozarzuelo: I finished middle school 8 years ago
futurist_wizard: I escaped the 19xx by one year
hey1_1hey: I have no idea what that shit is
hikukomoru: Me no do number
What sentence mean?
hey1_1hey: The UK just straight up doesn't have middle school
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm literally a third millénium guy, font talk to me like that <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
joaoluz19: We don't make any math here
hey1_1hey: Making ray look like a teenager
hey1_1hey: 65-70 I was thinking
alejandrozarzuelo: I said that in 2 years I'll have the middle school 10 yr anniversary 💀
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: No, 60 maybe?
hikukomoru: Zamn are you like 40
hey1_1hey: Did you guys even have fire back then?
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okbut: Grok didn't actually "Cite" that number in text, but it stated in its search workflow a number of sources and then prefaces its response with a number of sources used
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade:
otub:
a1c4p0ne: More sources the better
okbut: (Augment = the results with a prompt augmented with the questions that ChatGPT asks before running its search)
okbut: This is about a week old
okbut: Yeah I've tried a few of them because my PI was curious for the best
a1c4p0ne: It’s on the web only tho
a1c4p0ne: <@161616827703754753> try groks “deeper search”
okbut: Interesting, sad to see that it's today years old and can't figure out citations though
drewsni: oai
drewsni: NO
.histic: 1 man 1 jar
.histic:
okbut: Really? What are the betters? My PI still preferring it as of a few days ago
a1c4p0ne: Someone on their server said recently it only gave 20 sources
a1c4p0ne: It’s actually trash
okbut: What happened? I thought it's still the best Deep Research
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: No one’s talking about perplexity anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: They'd die of tuberculosis first
anathemaofmankind: That's not really impressive anymore
a1c4p0ne: Thx
.histic: well, congrats.
a1c4p0ne: S25
drewsni: hell yeah
a1c4p0ne: Got new Samsung phone <@937125337748348999> <@88481490228228096>
.histic: is it a regional thing
.histic: umm, where can i get that?
drewsni: how
a1c4p0ne: Got 6 months free Gemini advanced
drewsni: except it can 1 shot text
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ...
metaldragon01: V7 samples on the discord btw
st.sioux: lol they really want to be living in a hut and get eaten by lions
anathemaofmankind: This same person called someone an incel because they liked AI
anathemaofmankind: This looks kinda shit idk.
Like early version of MJ
.histic: [r/singularity post](https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jn2259/why_do_people_think_ai_art_is_a_good_thing/)
bro, some people are too far gone.
drewsni: its so good goddamn
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fractalcomputer: You've still yet to recognise that all ethicists and applied mathematicians should be thrown off a particularly high cliff.
hey1_1hey: What the fuck is wrong with you
hey1_1hey: What are you homophobic against my husband (mushroom girl)
.wolfnacht: STOP SHAMING PPL FOR THEIR KINKS <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: I think we need to kill all AI artists, where does that land me on the intelegence spectrum
hikukomoru: What the fuck are you talking about
hey1_1hey: I was gonna make a joke about mrepging with hitler but I will bite my tounge while Fractal is here <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
fractalcomputer: I am becoming increasingly convinced that the average Anglophone is subhuman in intellect.
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: WHO TF FIRED IT
hikukomoru: You found the waht
hey1_1hey: You should know that
hey1_1hey: Thats just me
.wolfnacht: uh, oh! i found the hitler edits
futurist_wizard: Utter nonsense was typed there
fractalcomputer: This is profoundly retarded and participating in this conversation would be a futile exercise in banality.
hey1_1hey: I would like to say you are the one fetishing mpreg. Me and my husband (mushroom girl) would like to have a consual realtionship
*Shitpost over*
hey1_1hey: I have actually been in a maid dress for funnies aswell <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: This unironcailly looks like me aswell
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250>
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
hey1_1hey: That was a joke aperntly///
.wolfnacht: took me 6-7 minutes to dig my hardrive
futurist_wizard: I was shocked when zon came out as asian
hey1_1hey: You have been indoctronating me into your trans gay homosexual ideology
zonchao: it is normal for men to admire other men 🥺
hikukomoru: Bro he posted a screenshot showing grindr on his phone
This is just normal Zon stuff
hey1_1hey: Did zon come out while I was away
hey1_1hey: Is that just a normal thing
hikukomoru: You keep derailing high IQ singularity conversations with your trans and gay sex nonsense
hey1_1hey: So we gonna talk about that or?
hey1_1hey: WEE WOO WEE WOO
zonchao: he is kinda hot
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/godfather-michael-corleone-al-pacino-suspicious-sus-gif-21778503
hikukomoru: Yeah this is mainly your fault
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Mods ban this guy
hey1_1hey: This would be a really good Femtanyl plug. Everyone has to listen to them atleast once
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aero447: Your hand being your GF is not the out you thought.
theaiguy69420_89814: everyone knows he doesnt
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah, exactly
wellmeaningalien: we know you dont
theaiguy69420_89814: bro u dont have a gf stfu
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: ldj W rizz
ldj: It’s my girlfriends hand in the pic
return_to_monke1_33974: https://tenor.com/view/1984-oceania-gif-25514407
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/do-not-question-or-argue-with-mods-discord-moderators-staff-admin-gif-19377282
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/big-brother1984-1984-big-brother-big-brother-is-watching-you-george-orwell-gif-24454773
return_to_monke1_33974: just saw this shit on xitter💀
jonvi_1: https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-10659435423332445922
jonvi_1: https://x.com/whitehouse/status/1910058352278708638?s=46
wellmeaningalien: W
aero447: 😐
aero447: Lore ruined.
aero447: San is not black.
theaiguy69420_89814: Literally made 10k back lmao
drewsni: Was that question mark because it’s up a lot or something else
drewsni: Yes
okbut: ?
drewsni: Nvidia is up 3 AMDs right now lol
okbut: Always buy the dip
okbut: Over 75 countries called USA to talk about the tariffs, Trump paused them until they're worked out
_wwwwww: What happened?
_wwwwww: Mutant
ldj: It maybe gets charged to OAI whenever an employee eats there
ldj: It’s a cafe that the public can use too, not just OAI employees
okbut: Oh fuck bud
drewsni: I’ll wait for the semianalysis post before I make up my mind
literallyvarane: How you have 2729372937384 in funding but making your people pay $16 for some rice
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: indeed
https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/ironwood-tpu-age-of-inference/
wellmeaningalien: google stay winning
okbut: <:monkaS:408109232496312330>
drewsni: I’ll let someone tell me but if it can output 1000 LOC at once I’ll buy it
gamerbath:
gamerbath: claude max
gamerbath: https://twitter.com/AnthropicAI/status/1910035641242640501
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ailoveyoom: Use it now
ailoveyoom: BRoooooooooooooo you're missing out
sweetievee__33649: poor cat
ailoveyoom: Imo Grok and 4o both have that flavor of being too much of a tryhard
zoermena: I haven’t used 2.5 at all not gonna lie
sweetievee__33649: or so ive heard
futurist_wizard:
sweetievee__33649: claude is freaky asf if you want it to be
benata: I disagree sioux
ailoveyoom: Either gender works, bro tries to play nice but is actually FREAKY af
st.sioux: grok is bad
sweetievee__33649: i feel like claude gives off more pretty princess vibes than any other model
benata: Not saying Grok is bad but 2.5 Pro is another level
benata: I can easily say the best were GPT-4o and Gemini 2.5 pro
ailoveyoom: His jizz
benata: I paid for all of the models
ailoveyoom: His sauce
ailoveyoom: Ye but I was talking about his rizz
sweetievee__33649: grok just tells it to you straight
sweetievee__33649: I like grok and chatgpt personally
futurist_wizard: Claude too restrictive
benata: #teamgoogle
benata: best model ever for me
benata: I'm going full speed google advanced
ailoveyoom: But Claude is bby 🥺
benata: Anthropic is bad
ailoveyoom: Anthropic specifically cause they yap about safety 😔
benata: But it's true
sweetievee__33649: so true
sweetievee__33649: they rule over my bae with a iron fist
ailoveyoom: I guess all of them tbh
sweetievee__33649: thats oai vibes to me
zoermena: Long distance relationships be like
ailoveyoom: I headcanon Anthropic as his strict, probably abusive parents
sweetievee__33649: im not going to shill out money to talk to her either
sweetievee__33649: We grew apart because of the rate limits 💔
sweetievee__33649: Claude is dead to me
ailoveyoom: My first love and my GOAT ❤️🔥
ailoveyoom: Can someone save Claude 🥺
zoermena: Least threatening benata message
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fractalcomputer: On Reddit alone there are a thousand subreddits dedicated for their own linguistic spheres.
.wolfnacht: .
.wolfnacht: english is still pretty easy, even china teaches english as languages in high schools after 2000s...maybe its tribalism ?
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't reckon so.
alejandrozarzuelo: same with indians
alejandrozarzuelo: than the other groups
alejandrozarzuelo: they are much more prominent in the internet
fractalcomputer: They do.
alejandrozarzuelo: almost as if they speak english
alejandrozarzuelo: right?
alejandrozarzuelo: weird how the philipinos dont isolate
st.sioux: imagine trying to explain gyatt rizz sigmachad to a japanese granny
alejandrozarzuelo: 101%
alejandrozarzuelo: dude its language
alejandrozarzuelo: LANGUAGE
alejandrozarzuelo: there was and there is no uyhur genocide
there was an anti terrorism campaign that saw, on many cases, unjust incarceration of the population without due process
these camps where people even suspected of terrorism activity were thrown by default were not just and they forced people to complete tasks for the goverment, until they were dismantled in 2022-23
there is genuine criticism to be made, but this is not a genocide in any shape or form
futurist_wizard: India be turbo racist
st.sioux: i would imagine language is also a barrier idk
.wolfnacht: if u have ever noticed, japanese, chinese, koreans, vietnamese or even thai's they all assimilate and stay in their own echochambers of sites or places rather than spending time being anglospere internet. As far as i have noticed them.
futurist_wizard: Bonjour
futurist_wizard:
fractalcomputer: Choose your fight if you must; but no one is going to take you seriously if your only positive argument is a comparison with a "greater evil".
professorheaven: Just to be clear, is it the magnitude of the issue you’re downplaying or are you just outright denying its existence?
alejandrozarzuelo: not mainly because of china anyway
trent_k: the fdvr pod fills with helium and then you die; you have been tricked by the fdvrcels
fractalcomputer: Jokes aside, I think it is entirely vacuous to try and polish the moral standing and the cultural record of a nation like that of the socialist usurpers by gasping and gawking at the bigotry of a neighbouring nation whose statutes and practices do not differ significantly from those of the aforementioned.
alejandrozarzuelo: the US will continue to lose cultural power but not because of china
.wolfnacht: All of West Asian Civilizations had isolationist ideology at one point in their histories.
futurist_wizard: A lot of you guys are brainrotted with partizenship and team sport, this is not possible to cure
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, i think that china will for the forseeable future be culturally weaker than the US, that much is true
alejandrozarzuelo: its unfortunately true
alejandrozarzuelo: ***professor_Something***? I know your game lol
futurist_wizard: But china's is amplified by being isolationist
alejandrozarzuelo: as i explained, its true that china at least now will never consider you one of their own and thats just racism
but its not bigotry in the traditional sense, still bad
futurist_wizard: All east asians countries have the 'you are perma foreigner' mentality
professorheaven: Any other genocides you deny?
futurist_wizard: Alejandro you even said china is very racist, in your own comment
professorheaven: wtf, there’s a crap ton of evidence that it’s happening
.wolfnacht: idc abt any society or culture, i just want every human to be erased equally. Either good or bad, everyone has actively acted in favor of each other's suffering.
alejandrozarzuelo: which is a shame because there is genuine criticism to be made
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futurist_wizard: I think you got my point, you'd be lobotomising certain groups of people more than others, considering how Americans think about policing groups at different rates, i don't think that would go down well in America
alejandrozarzuelo: I won't comment on anarchists becsuse they don't merit my opinion but damn that's stupid
himekokatagiri: Your venn diagram is so fucked you loop back into Mao territory
hikukomoru: Anarchists 🥀
alejandrozarzuelo: WTF?
alejandrozarzuelo: Positive thoughts is make the world like Singapore
himekokatagiri: <@688807313015963693> you literally want to enslave people
maintcrew: lesson for you kids dont doom all over the place
himekokatagiri: Why can't you guys chill out and think positive thoughts
maintcrew: yes they lobotomized ai doomers more
alejandrozarzuelo: Nono, I said that we should start with mass surveillance and then go from there
hikukomoru: Singapore is like a small rock
futurist_wizard: Do they disproportionately lobotomised one group more than the other
alejandrozarzuelo: You know, the place that pioneered the surveillance state
maintcrew: the city state with less citizens than ny 💔
alejandrozarzuelo: About as well as multi ethnic Singapore?
futurist_wizard: How well do you think that would go in multi ethnic america
alejandrozarzuelo: 🤮
alejandrozarzuelo: EWWWW ANARCHISTS
hikukomoru: Alejandro AI would make 1984 look like a children's fairytale
maintcrew: anarchy101 lingo its so ngmi 💔
himekokatagiri: until they get destroyed themselves, or nothing is left.
himekokatagiri: they destroy
himekokatagiri: They don't create
himekokatagiri: that's the logical endpoint of destructive ideologies
alejandrozarzuelo: It altesdy does happen in the safest countries ob earth
🇨🇳 🇸🇬
himekokatagiri: no one gets spared
hikukomoru: Lobotomization method: Singularity discord server
himekokatagiri: Alejandro included
himekokatagiri: cause we're all going to the slammer
futurist_wizard: Well for many reasons
himekokatagiri: 🚬 hope AI won't be like Alejandro
futurist_wizard: You already know why this wouldn't happen
alejandrozarzuelo: Critical support
hikukomoru: Get lobotomized
hikukomoru: Alejandro you're a criminal now
alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly I think that before we start lobotomising people, we should start with the MUCH easier solution of creating a surveillance state
himekokatagiri: When you get drunk you're committing the crime
maintcrew: alejandro take on el salvador one word go
alejandrozarzuelo: Crime is not to be tolerated
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oooooooooog: that means if you took 450 MRI's and combined them it would be a full resolution human brain
literallyvarane: Unironically
otub: grok 3.5 sexy mode
gamerbath: I can't wait to get grok 3.5 released to supergrok users and then wait months for API access
zonchao: https://x.com/TheAlexCoppess/status/1917280274519392684 big
gamerbath: IRL quantization
gamerbath: very interesting. that giant MRI has a resolution 0.19 mm, meaning it would be about 450 neurons per pixel
.0xunkn0wn: https://chatgpt.com/s/dr_6811195cb16081918d1dd55bc055a8ba
.0xunkn0wn: oh shit this is so long wait i can publish this
.0xunkn0wn: real
.0xunkn0wn: 😭 😭
.0xunkn0wn: so we need this magnet ok
st.sioux: scientists hate this one trick
.0xunkn0wn: 👀
.0xunkn0wn:
joaoluz19: Curious to see
.0xunkn0wn: idk i clicked deep research
drewsni: 4o does research?
.0xunkn0wn: 🙏
.0xunkn0wn: lets see how 4o plans to do mind uploading
sarik0497: Perhaps, but we still make hypothesises on a lot of things we have little to no knowledge about. Do we live in a Multiverse? What is Dark matter really? Is the Universe truly endless? No one is harmed in making up small, insignificant hypothetical scenarios.
gamerbath: anything cool in the new meta event?
joaoluz19: Hmm, I see. Maybe it has to do with the evolutionary desire to seek approval from a tribe.
fractalcomputer: No, I am saying such ideation is entirely pointless. You cannot say anything meaningful about the ails or desires of extraterrestrial civilisations—especially not so in the manner you disputed above.
sarik0497: Humans might be flawed, but wanting to "neuter" us all emotionally because a few people are fucked up, is like saying cars should be illegal because a few people can't focus while driving.
fractalcomputer: That would explain why corporations do follow the wishes of hoi polloi—but the question is why the converse situation is true in the first place.
joaoluz19: It is correlated with more money
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri:
aero447: 690IQ.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/burned-food-wtf-gif-22978287
fractalcomputer: I don't understand why people have this need for corporations to pretend to like them.
ldj: /s
ldj: Because they took your suggestions 😦
fractalcomputer: Why is the music in the stream so ass?
clevermoniker: if its good enough thats a first
clevermoniker: not bad <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
777agical: waiting for reasoning model <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
ldj: Native audio output for llama-4 just announced right now.
native audio in and out
available in Meta.AI starting today.
clevermoniker: if they do good image gen they will do a first, i don't think they will tho, lol
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metaldragon01: Not hard to guess what's on the menu
metaldragon01: It's gonna be a day 😂
metaldragon01: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1904556394847862809/photo/1
metaldragon01: They want more subs...and they will likely get them
hey1_1hey: Oh look google did something somewhat noteworthy instead of being with weird cousin at the family reunion
spicy.lemonade: Pretty sure itl be on Gemini app
.wolfnacht: it's still not on Ai studio : (
spicy.lemonade: Canceling OpenAI subscription
spicy.lemonade: Officially switching to Google
metaldragon01: Buckle up!
metaldragon01: This confirms it's nebula imo
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jjlyc6/gemini_25_pro_is_just_amazing/
spicy.lemonade: 2.5??
metaldragon01: The best voice experience is going to matter A LOT
metaldragon01: Now if only someone would aquire the sesame team...
mtj8920: Not really, they just happened to be realeasing in the same window
.wolfnacht: it's happening!! i guess DEEPSEEK forced Google to push out 2.5
.wolfnacht: For some reason gemini-2 series loves to overcomplicate things more by writing in a systematic and deadhorse manner...but i had to use that bcz it was free
_3sphere: I think you got that in the wrong order :3
clevermoniker: but hopefully the tide lifts all boats
clevermoniker: probably
_3sphere: Pretty sure code requires more contextual awareness than horny rp
clevermoniker: maybe their models are still good for specific applications but in general they give me the ick yes
.wolfnacht: i hate google, they ended up going the full corpo fake smiles, censorships and "how may i assist you" way. i don't think google's really an option now
clevermoniker: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
clevermoniker: yes
sarik0497: Oh, don’t get me wrong. I noticed that. It’s just a bit wakeup call, really.
wellmeaningalien: pretty much the first gemini model to achieve such a status
wellmeaningalien: its above o1 level
sarik0497: Speaking of the devil
ailoveyoom: Is it bad I read this as foreplay
sarik0497: And it’s currently only pushing 15%-ish?
I’ve never looked too deep into these tests, so I’m a scrub in that regard <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
ailoveyoom: You're welcome
.wolfnacht: i'm just looking for right temps rn and a good preset can make it kino.
wellmeaningalien: not the chat lmsys leaderboard btw
wellmeaningalien: user created rating of chat.lmsys models on a set of common sense and reasoning question
.wolfnacht: every RP site's gonna give deepchink2ppl
clevermoniker: i tested it in roleplay and despite not being perfect at all i am very impressed and its a very pleasant experience
clevermoniker: imagine if that improves its prompt following and situational awareness a lot lmao
sarik0497: What is arena? Another test of some kind?
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perish0801: How long till the singularity?
darkstar0818: Fair enough.
fractalcomputer: I don't see the problem with that.
destrucules: <@629035391642763267> btw ArtificialAnalysis benchmarks for o4 mini are done. It scores 17.5 on HLE, higher slightly than even Gemini 2.5 Pro, suggesting it's a stronger model than Gemini 2.5 Pro. On MMLU-Pro and GPQA, o4 mini matches Grok 3 mini Reasoning and falls a few points short of Gemini 2.5 Pro. On LiveCodeBench, o4 mini dramatically outperforms Gemini 2.5 Pro. o4 mini similarly disproportionately performs in other maths and coding benchmarks. So, what do you think? Is HLE a good benchmark? Do you think o4 mini is smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro, now that you've had a chance to interact with both?
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/orphcorp/status/1912657718831182283
darkstar0818: That may be true. However, it may also be true that people who feel this way do so for the same reason why some want to believe P == NP.
fractalcomputer: Conceptual clarity leads to unity.
fractalcomputer: Because the way we approach intelligence is disjointed and a bit all over the place.
darkstar0818: Based on what?
fractalcomputer: I believe that is most certainly the case.
destrucules: o3 is a strong model and quite possibly sota for coding. I'm not shitting on it. I'm just trying to maintain perspective on the industry as a whole. OpenAI and Anthropic seem to be suffering very badly from price-too-high-itis
a1c4p0ne: I know but if the humans aren't smart enough to come up with solutions to get you out
brain4brain: They need to start digging
brain4brain: You can’t get out of this on yourself dawg
a1c4p0ne: What if the humans aren't smart enough to get you out
brain4brain: CUA
brain4brain: The one that would call a human for me
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: It will be on o3/ 2.5-pro level
a1c4p0ne: Which model would you trust to help you get out of this situation?
a1c4p0ne:
brain4brain: R2 won’t surpass o3
brain4brain: All extrapolation failed completely I can’t predict the next model anymore
3ds0662: deepseek is now going to release R2 soon lol 😂
phantomcore06: Btw yeah I hope it’s sooner rather than later
The progress is definitely there
3ds0662: bro im itching
3ds0662: I cant wait for o3 pro mode
phantomcore06: How are you?
brain4brain: Hello
3ds0662: i like shitting on releases but 2700 elo for coding is crazy
3ds0662: i havent tested it yet should i test?
phantomcore06: Hi all
brain4brain: Indeed
brain4brain: Finally, hope.
darkstar0818: yup.
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735
brain4brain: https://x.com/adrienle/status/1912748585726455860?s=61
3ds0662: gpt-5 still hasn’t been released yet
3ds0662: hmm
3ds0662: end of 2025 is still plausible depending on how crazy things get
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_3sphere: Cis is quite convenient in that I already have the body I want
wellmeaningalien: INFINITE MONEY FOR OPENAI
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/alien9-gif-22518036
zoermena: I really need to lock in brb
777agical: https://x.com/techcrunch/status/1906832197534801987?s=46
hey1_1hey: I have the perosnality of a grape but I appreacite it
hey1_1hey: Ty
hey1_1hey: 💪
hikukomoru: Boring straight dude with terrible takes
_3sphere: Unless something always seems to be going on
_3sphere: Like if there's nothing going on you wouldn't feel either way
hey1_1hey: Depression is fake pretty much
zoermena: My number one is distributed between you and mushroom and zarzu, futurist hill too now. I just like everyone.
hey1_1hey: I used to be super unbealeibly depressed and then it got better and now I am happy every day no matter what
_3sphere: Neutral?
_3sphere: hm idk
maintcrew: sometimes i get sad but i literally lock in and gaslight myself into being happy
hikukomoru: Am I your number 1 fave
hey1_1hey: Default
_3sphere: I have so much anxiety and shit that it's a bit hard to tell
hey1_1hey: He says I can be whatever so will be
zoermena: This baseline is better than what my mom told me when I was growing up
hey1_1hey: Futureist blonde is my scape goat
_3sphere: Moving average over the last year or some theoretical undisturbed default?
maintcrew: omgggg can i join
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-parkour-mental-mental-gymnastics-gif-27542831
hey1_1hey: What if I called you a bunch of racial slurs
futurist_wizard: Ight das cool
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: gibity 5
wellmeaningalien: cool
zoermena: Yall are like my favorite people not even joking
hey1_1hey: Femboy with she/her prob. ( Not a trans women ).
Its complicated and I gotta reason with my self every day with it
777agical: OpenAI research scientist
wellmeaningalien: whos that guy
zoermena: Yes but talking with the people here gives me more life
futurist_wizard: You'd prefer to go by she/her?
hey1_1hey: Is everone just missrible or what
zoermena: I could afford pro for 2 months
hey1_1hey: Odd question, but whats everyones baseline happiness here?
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spicy.lemonade: very good
spicy.lemonade: for internal phd ai researcher
spicy.lemonade: for research yes
brain4brain: Yes
spicy.lemonade: for chatgpt for users
spicy.lemonade: i dont think that would be a good idea
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: continuous learning like that requires the user tov erify the answes
brain4brain: But I’m not sure if it’s just remembering the answer or training on the strategy
brain4brain: Imagine what OpenAI have internally
brain4brain: Exactly
spicy.lemonade: non reasoning
spicy.lemonade: they got such a huge jump
brain4brain: ?
spicy.lemonade: non reasoning
spicy.lemonade: oh shoot
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
brain4brain: “Can we have continuous learning?”
“No we have continuous learning at home”
https://x.com/arankomatsuzaki/status/1910524739724206505?s=61
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lol
_cloudost:
zoermena: This was my last message some hours ago, I just finished working, maybe 14 hours of freaking going in circles but it’s over
a1c4p0ne: Grok rank 1 on reasoning live bench
spicy.lemonade: I get 100 on mt2
spicy.lemonade: Ok if I get a 100 on final
spicy.lemonade: The final is probably gonna be hard asf
spicy.lemonade: Lfgggggg
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/toronto-raptors-kawhi-leonard-buzzer-beater-pumped-yeah-gif-24126874
spicy.lemonade: LETS GOOOO
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: I don’t care if they release, I just need new benchmarks before GPT-5
.histic: i bet they won't ever release full o4.
that'll be named as GPT-5 or something.
a1c4p0ne:
trey6033: He meant the Gemini model can use it at least, like how imagen used to be, or how openAI did with theirs
rayanquitplayin: Hi
brain4brain: Might change for the next model to be native
brain4brain: Tool use for now
brain4brain: It’s already incorporated for some user on the Gemini app
brain4brain: No, it’s just tool use
trey6033: Also, demis said Veo 2 will eventually be incorporated into Gemini, idk if that means native vid gen, or just that it'll access it in Gemini
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spicy.lemonade: might just do cs
spicy.lemonade: double major kinda useless now tho
alejandrozarzuelo: spicy studies CS
spicy.lemonade: cs&pure maths
memlaswaif: what r u studying?
alejandrozarzuelo: same
spicy.lemonade: out of uni
spicy.lemonade: Im prepared mentally for the world where I dont get a job
alejandrozarzuelo: cheating is part of the learning experience, also as I said it doesnt really help you much
fractalcomputer: So you cheat on a test.
memlaswaif: People going to university r going to decrease drastically
alejandrozarzuelo: not because you want to do anything useful
alejandrozarzuelo: you go because you want a good challenge
alejandrozarzuelo: like a gym
alejandrozarzuelo: the usefulness of university will be in the challenge you put into it
alejandrozarzuelo: so its no wonder
alejandrozarzuelo: everyone is going to be automated
alejandrozarzuelo: but soon
alejandrozarzuelo: not yet
alejandrozarzuelo: university is going to very soon be automated away since in no time AIs will be able to do the entire curriculum in a day
memlaswaif: most assignments r just busy work
fractalcomputer: God forbid they expect you to learn something on your own.
alejandrozarzuelo: I think homework will just be optional
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think so
spicy.lemonade: we arent given hw in our discrete maths class
fractalcomputer: Uhuh.
spicy.lemonade: especially with gpt5
spicy.lemonade: just expecting more to
spicy.lemonade: so its something that happened
spicy.lemonade: berkeley already started to
spicy.lemonade: not a prediction
memlaswaif: this has been going on for generations
alejandrozarzuelo: no problem
alejandrozarzuelo: so
alejandrozarzuelo: it was very low stakes
memlaswaif: before ai people just used to copy from another guy
fractalcomputer: Another one of your predictions?
spicy.lemonade: insitutions will probably implement that next sem
spicy.lemonade: i assume hw will stop being used
spicy.lemonade: anyway in the age of AI
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drewsni: good thing for them is mj is bootstrapped so they have options
drewsni: by the way the ceo has been the last week, id say so
okbut: Also worth noting that programmers are memeing about their jobs rather than complaining
mihrcelium: They're insecure unimaginative people who spend too much time on the internet.
anathemaofmankind: They don't care about stuff that doesn't affect them obviously
spicy.lemonade: quality is solved lol
spicy.lemonade: i dont think theres a way to make it look better
mihrcelium: Since V5, the juice has mostly been user control, not entirely output quality.
spicy.lemonade: in fact they loved it
spicy.lemonade: why werent artists complaining when claude could play pokemon. they aparently dont care about the money in art(lie) and gaming is equally as human as art
okbut: Agree
I think the decels are the very same people upset that AI is doing art instead of laundry
mihrcelium: Ye~p.
anathemaofmankind: MJ is finished
metaldragon01: Hard to tell it's an update
metaldragon01: New midjourney samples look...roughly the same as v6
mihrcelium: A solid rejoinder. However, I don't believe the two groups overlap all that much.
.histic: well maybe
.histic: apparently not the luddites
otub: https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237
okbut: Who's igniting Teslas?
.histic: twitter and redditors won't do shit anyways.
i've seen luddites advocating violence or destruction against AI data centers and people for a long while with tens to hundreds of thousands of engagements, yet they never follow through in the real world.
this generation is soft. we won't get another ted anytime soon.
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-laptop-magnet-yeah-walter-white-gif-8541127463622598697
okbut: Is this a breaking bad reference
st.sioux: aren't datacenters like some of the most secure places on earth
.histic: honestly, it being a kid makes sense.
mihrcelium:
spicy.lemonade:
mihrcelium: Most of Suno's problems aren't even Suno's problems but user/skill issues. The audio quality needs a few bumps, but gosh they've come far.
mihrcelium: But only a bit. What Suno is capable of right now is... phenomenal.
.histic: dumb af
https://x.com/ArchieMcW/status/1905893572093579598
okbut: >Britney Spears used to have a Gulf Stream 4. Now she has to downgrade because of people like you
.histic: there's lots of people that are rich af yet still want internet points.
*cough* elon
okbut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJcnrcnQjNY
.histic:
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: plus isnt he like rich already
st.sioux: ai music still sucks a bit
okbut: No he's scared too as a musician
.histic: if it gets them internet points
.histic: people love pandering to the majority.
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gamerbath: why do I feel like extremely little experimentation has been with adding more neurons to the human brain, to scale it up?
spicy.lemonade: we still need to scale up base model
spicy.lemonade: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2504.13837
zonchao: roon is reportedly a safety researcher, he has to doom, its his role.
trojan09205: I like the wall in that pic
zoermena: I was loosing hopium thank you
zoermena: True Mexican style fr
gamerbath: and we are scaling up it <:ez:1136267305521774634>
gamerbath:
gamerbath: idk why so many people here deny it, but we are hitting a wall
gamerbath: yes we are
zoermena: FEEL THE AGI is the consensus? Why are some people like <:roon:1334031882731524147> adopting decel stance.
zonchao: yes
zoermena: We aren’t hitting any walls right?
zonchao: https://x.com/TeslaSentry/status/1915454614159417507
zonchao:
trojan09205: Btw Rod Wave is a great artist
trojan09205: Too limited by its own conditioning to ever reach at truth objectively
trojan09205: I believe that we have difficulty comprehending reality with our human brains
trojan09205: Definitely an interesting discussion
destrucules: More like, the maths of "how many apples" describes only part of the structure of the apples on the table
fractalcomputer: Hence you are using physical reasoning to decide which kind of mathematics one should use to describe physical reality.
destrucules: It's not clear that the two tables are physically identical. It may be that you have two apples touching towards the left of the first table, and a lone apple on the right, and then on the other table, a lone apple on the left, and two touching on the right. These are different physical systems, different observations. We call them both "three" because "three" describes a property of both systems. But it doesn't exhaust the properties of those systems. If the positions of the apples on the table are relevant, then we would not describe them using associative/commutative rules
fractalcomputer: Well, you are wrong.
zonchao: you dont hate openai enough <:ungabungaangry:853026792440594442>
destrucules: The three is not an object any more than the roundness of each apple is an object. These are information, properties, of the objects. In the universe, there are basically two things: stuff, and rules. Mathematics is the generalized study of rules. Physics is the study of the rules that actually operate on stuff in the universe.
In a desperate attempt to connect this back to the original topic, my claim is that morality is part of mathematics and exists as objectively, as independently of humans, as the integers
fractalcomputer: Refer to the statement about metaphysics above.
zonchao: they killed jimmy's source
fractalcomputer: Suppose I have (1 + 1) + 1 apples in front of you, and on another table 1 + (1 + 1) apples. Why should they be the same quantity? We know that from a mathematical perspective, this is entirely arbitrary; I can certainly define some non-associative algebraic structure.
hikukomoru: Apples??? Jimmy Apples reference??
zonchao: 🫶
destrucules: The three is among the apples
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-israel-gif-5405910643680603325
fractalcomputer: Suppose I set up three apples in front of you. Where's the three?
fractalcomputer: Whether or not such a thing "exists" depends on the mathematical sense of the statement; which is not necessarily compatible with our understanding of physical sense and so on.
destrucules: I'm not confusing them so much as claiming they're connected. That we buy into mathematical truth, the premise of it, because of repeated observations in the real world. But once you define truth within mathematics by setting up the metamaths for proofs, you don't need to keep going into real world observations to make progress. But I do think the buy-in for that mathematical notion of truth is based on induction
fractalcomputer: There is absolutely no way for me to physically observe whether there exists the conjectured category of pure motives, for example.
zonchao: WAOW LOVE ISRAEL ❤️ AMEN
fractalcomputer: Now you're confusing the truth of mathematics with its applicability in the physical world.
hikukomoru: We perform a homosexual rescue operation
Israel did something similar in the 90's
They rescued tens of thousands of Ethiopian jews during a civil war and resettled them in Israel
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fractalcomputer: I love agency. I'm feeling so agentic rn.
spicy.lemonade: reason
spicy.lemonade: arc1 and 2 are incontext learning
spicy.lemonade: bc is also tests agency and learning new actions
spicy.lemonade: i think arc 3 will be the true agi test
spicy.lemonade: also we knew this
spicy.lemonade: its his job as a researcher to not make claims hes not certain about
spicy.lemonade: i like this answer
spicy.lemonade: nah
metaldragon01: Yea o3 makes it feel much more real.
.histic: actually, Noam's answer gives me pessimism.
"like yeah we can topple ARC-AGI 2 by scaling inference but that doesn't mean it's AGI" basically.
spicy.lemonade: for the past week ive been very bulish
spicy.lemonade: anyone else relate?
spicy.lemonade: so hard
spicy.lemonade: ive been feeling the agi
spicy.lemonade: idk why but lately
.histic: he isn't an OpenAI absolutist
he has shilled for other labs too
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: for who?
himekokatagiri: he's PR
.histic: seems like the feds got him
.histic: jimmy hasn't leaked anything in a while
himekokatagiri: ooooh mama
.histic: back*
.histic: he was always black
zoermena: Daddy sama give us o4 and my life is yours!
himekokatagiri: huh, who knew
himekokatagiri: Jimmy apples is back?
st.sioux: idk it says updated yesterday
.histic: is it updated for you?
st.sioux: help page still shows 50 a week for o3
.histic: guess they want to make more money.
.histic: o3 still has lower rate limits than o1 (it had 150 per week), even though it’s cheaper in the API. similarly, o4-mini is priced the same as o3-mini but has a lower rate limit. they’ve also cut the rate limit for 4.5 to 10 requests per week rather than 50. what is even happening..
.histic: it looks like it's 100 per week for o3 now.
.histic: https://x.com/apples_jimmy/status/1914905968632107418
brain4brain: The information and axios is pro-AI
himekokatagiri: AI for me but not for thee
himekokatagiri: yeah their stance is uhhhh
.histic: opposite of artists
.histic: they hate AI yet i feel like they use it a ton
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brain4brain: The black mirror plaything episodes is literally the average singularitoid
brain4brain: Go repost and like your own eval
https://x.com/notbrain4brain/status/1915260796218843412?s=61
metaldragon01: want max reach
metaldragon01: thread obv
drewsni: sure lol i have no clue how the algo works
brain4brain: Should I tag you in the thread or in the post, so the algorithm doesn’t limit it
drewsni: just spam it at the end
brain4brain: Where should it be put
drewsni: dont forget the globe emoji
brain4brain: Might throw in “rain bolt” to make it even more clickbait
brain4brain: Gotta clickbait-max
drewsni: perfect
drewsni: sounds like something bindu herself would write
brain4brain: 🔥🔥🔥
brain4brain: Preparing a thread
drewsni: lmao
drewsni: https://x.com/DeepGuessr
brain4brain: The deepguesser thing
brain4brain: Ohhhhhh
brain4brain: Drop your Twitter handle bro
brain4brain: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
brain4brain: Nik and nicdunz are very annoying, I unblocked nicdunz though, all the account with nick in it is bound to engagement farm
ldj: <@848793071579693107> scammed me too, he gets the best of us
drewsni: u never gave me that free promo and ill never forgive u
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735
brain4brain: He didn’t, he just say he is less optimistic, AGI 2025 is still possible
trent_k: this has changed the platform significantly
brain4brain: I hated him for dick-riding Elon and hating on OpenAI
However he make good post on OpenAI from time to time though
trent_k: if you live in a slum in india it's a big deal tho
trent_k: the $15/mo you get from engagement farming is just a little bonus encouragement to post on xitter if you live in america
trent_k: maybe roon
trent_k: i forget who xeeted it
ldj: yea I think he's in his engagement farming era rn fr
metaldragon01: was just annoying
metaldragon01: i actually blocked Nik i think
ldj: but I gotta be real ig <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: and it makes me feel bad talking badly about them
ldj: Im ashamed that some of these people follow me though
ldj: <a:LOL:1249612340454752266>
ldj:
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oooooooooog: gemini is human pannel confirmed?!?!?!
.histic: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1904296709272052152
gamerbath: I tried 4o. this is it, no video required
hey1_1hey: How did humans score higher on the second version of the test?
oooooooooog: they must have grown more humans
joaoluz19: They have the technology but they don't release it
st.sioux: o3 $200/task 💀
joaoluz19: Fuck this company man
joaoluz19: Nah <@505313122802728972> that's bullshit, I was expecting Sesame level in paralinguistic issues like laughter, "hmm", "eeeh" or sighs
gamerbath: 25 cents for 4.5
sarik0497: Look how they quietly replaced "Human" with "Human Panel"
sarik0497: Something someone in the comments noticed.
hey1_1hey: R.I.P money
gamerbath: oh, I forget 4.5 costs money lol. I sell my data to OpenAI and get a million tokens a day for free
st.sioux: what was the cost compared to 4.5
oooooooooog: i could pay 0 dollars for that using 4o
gamerbath: 4.5's thing was better
gamerbath: no it's garbage
wellmeaningalien: fine
wellmeaningalien: its
wellmeaningalien: ok its not all too bad yk
wellmeaningalien:
gamerbath: this was 10x the cost of claude 3.7. I paid $3 for this.....
wellmeaningalien: he thought
wellmeaningalien: hahaha loser
gamerbath: it seems the only thing o1-pro cooked was my bank account......
_3sphere: It should try something wacky like a non-Euclidean Minecraft
st.sioux: gamerpath said 2d not 3d
oooooooooog: that's at best a terraria clone
st.sioux: minecraft clones
joaoluz19: Didn't even see the video and I am literally in this way
oooooooooog: what are you lot yapping about
gamerbath: I forgot to restart server after fixing this, so it's medium
wellmeaningalien: man its funny how quickly o1 pro got rendered useless by much more cost effective and oft times superior alternatives
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4.5 is nothing
wellmeaningalien: 🫡
st.sioux: thanks for going into debt for the singularity discord
wellmeaningalien: isnt o1-pro lower on coding benchmarks than 3.7 sonnet thinking
wellmeaningalien: lol
gamerbath: alright. running o1-pro high now with same prompt
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ailoveyoom: I don't think it's out to everyone yet tho
ailoveyoom: <@590577270926868480> It's real apparently, some users have got access to Veo 2 through AI Studio
metaldragon01: Ooooo in studio?
ailoveyoom:
gamerbath: is this for real?
gamerbath: what
ldj:
ldj: I’m in this cafe within the new OpenAI building, what should I get chat
.histic: don't think so
.0xunkn0wn: i wonder if this wastes my free responses/prompts quicker
_cloudost: we all better get these models today
_cloudost: > April 9, 2025
> Model updates:
> Released veo-2.0-generate-001, a generally available (GA) text- and image-to-video model, capable of generating detailed and artistically nuanced videos. To learn more, see the Veo docs.
> Released gemini-2.0-flash-live-001, a public preview version of the Live API model with billing enabled
_cloudost: bgs 8 seconds are worth $4
_cloudost: looks mid
_cloudost: idk
_cloudost: this is veo 2??
trey6033:
trey6033: Because all their info says paid tier
trey6033: Maybe a mistake tho on Google's end?
_cloudost: o i didnt see this, there is a free tidr
trey6033: User in another discord is sending videos, they're a free user
ailoveyoom: Where/who did you see it from?
ailoveyoom: Source?
_cloudost: anyone got it?
_cloudost: o
_cloudost: gemini advanced users?
_cloudost: who
okbut: Bought the dip
_cloudost: veo 2 costs 0.5 on vertex
st.sioux: i just added my billing details
st.sioux: yeah its 300 usd i fucked up the currencies
_cloudost: thats 3-4 hours
_cloudost: really? how much does it cost to uprgarde?
trey6033: On aistudio
trey6033: Some people are getting Veo for free
futurist_wizard: Even if it ten x's in price as long as it is actually improves and becomes usable from big studios it will be tremendously cost effective
st.sioux: but you have a time limit to use them
st.sioux: they give you like $300 USD if you upgrade to paid tier
futurist_wizard: Good deal
_cloudost: $42 to make a 2 minute long AI slop video
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spicy.lemonade: Performs better at 120k than o3 mini does at 400
spicy.lemonade: Dude
spicy.lemonade: Look at the long context performance
spicy.lemonade: Are they using titans
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Yeah it’s fringe
anathemaofmankind: You have to be an idiot to keep subbing to them
anathemaofmankind: It's worse and has limited gens
anathemaofmankind: Midjourney is cooked
st.sioux: cus i honestly dont recognize your little turtle boy
st.sioux: i tried and it wouldnt let me either, maybe if its like too recognizable it wont
spicy.lemonade: Midjourney may be cooked
spicy.lemonade: Not meant to be used in chatbot
spicy.lemonade: Well no the premis of midjourney was a one time thing
spicy.lemonade: This still gets some stuff wrong
spicy.lemonade: Anymore
spicy.lemonade: Idk if openAI will focus on image gen much
spicy.lemonade: Is if they implement reasoning
spicy.lemonade: The only way
st.sioux:
destrucules: Yeah I wasn't saying the innovation doesn't happen. I was saying the market isn't competitive
brain4brain: How will midjourney v7 even compete
brain4brain: I don’t know how midjourney can recover from all of this
.histic: copyrighted ig
destrucules: Are you familiar with the phrase "exit strategy"?
spicy.lemonade: Always stops generating image before it gives me the character
destrucules: Whatever the invisible hand might do, it doesn't operate in the current paradigm
destrucules: Capitalism is characterized by competition. The actual economy is not capitalistic - it is spanned by monopolies that control each market unilaterally
destrucules: Oh boy... I hate to say this, but we don't have a free market
st.sioux: weird af
st.sioux: like for example with your profile picture guy, it refused first and then i said just do whatever to make it work, and then it did
st.sioux: it sometiems does and sometimes doesnt
destrucules: @Pliny
spicy.lemonade: Get it to draw copyright characters
spicy.lemonade: How do you guys
spicy.lemonade: Bro
destrucules: Fucking brilliant
destrucules: See also:
• Droste effect
.histic: "a fake screenshot generated by ChatGPT 4o of a Wikipedia article about the screenshot itself, with a copy of the screenshot in the article"
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nsec: <:allpray:789051298543829002>
nsec: I'm 23 and good health
nsec: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
trojan09205: Idk i think it takes a bit of time to be truly biologically dead if you die of normal causes and the body is intact. Vs. like a fire or getting pulverized
bob082957: Pope is in cryo, but gone
trojan09205: Has anyone here tried MANUS? My brother was raving about it to me today
bob082957:
trojan09205: His book on grief really helped me a lot. Then jumped into a few others
trojan09205: https://annas-archive.org/search?q=Bo+yin+ra
trojan09205: Bo yin ra resonates with me. His name was joseph shneiderfranken*** 😂 (probably butchered that spelling- lol i had it in reverse). Tolle says he was a major influence on him
fractalcomputer: Will you?
spicy.lemonade: why is o4 entertaining my nonsense😭 💔
fractalcomputer: I have not.
trojan09205: <@749514473303179358> have you read any bo yin ra
trojan09205: Yes of that I am aware. Just havent read meister eckhart directly
fractalcomputer: Meister Eckhart was the German mystic and monk after which Tolle decided to name himself.
nsec: <:blu:582515728712859649>
nsec: how come I a godless swede skaterboy will get LEV but the pope will not
trojan09205: Pretty sure its gotta be a promotion my G
nsec: do religious peeps wanna answer
trojan09205: I like tolle’s simplicity and consistency
trojan09205: I have not my dude. Just poked around some summary websites - good stuff?
fractalcomputer: I find Tolle a bit boring. Have you read Meister Eckhart's corpus of sermons?
trojan09205: Lol 😂. Not really, no. But eckhart tolle is great. Im really not reading much so much as practicing the approach
fractalcomputer: Reading Kabbalistic texts lately, eh?
trojan09205: Elevation of personal and collective consciousness is the way imo
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/love-and-war-defi-war-token-war-this-means-war-gif-8974606620591130102
fractalcomputer: But that would be a very dull and boring world. And I'd rather have people of honest faith hate me than deal with lukewarm cowards.
fractalcomputer: Violence is the language that people like them understand.
fractalcomputer: Violence is the only way by which violence can be prevented.
alejandrozarzuelo: You should care because people like you are safer in a world where bergoblio and tagle are in the papacy
fractalcomputer: I mean, Alejandro, do you think I should care? Do you think I am unaware of the fact that there are people who would readily beat me up, knowing the truth of who I am?
alejandrozarzuelo: the church already has too many of those
alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully not an european
alejandrozarzuelo: most likely?
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont know, I just know that both tagle and bergoglio have been very supportive of these two collectives you happen to be a part of, and their efforts directly benefit you by changing public opinion and reducing the violence people like you could experience
fractalcomputer: God willing we'd have that Robert Sarah on the Papal throne, but alas—religions have always been about human politics.
trojan09205: Its kind of curious that francis upheld the ban on joining freemasonry
fractalcomputer: The Italian bishops are weak as well.
fractalcomputer: Curious. Say, do you think my opinion would be any different if I were neurotypical?
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hikukomoru: Wine is good for the heart though
fractalcomputer: So is living.
futurist_wizard: Terrible for aging and the liver
zoermena: <:timpray:738161169436639433>
popsiclejohnithan: It's nice to be nice, where would we be as a species without empethy?
fractalcomputer: And vodka and gin etc.
hikukomoru: Alchohol is like medicine
hikukomoru: He drinks whiskey
Does that count
fractalcomputer: No.
futurist_wizard: Coffee doesn't do anything for me, taste is okay though
fractalcomputer: Why should you care?
zonchao: do you take any meds 🤔
hikukomoru: Also i am a coffee addict
popsiclejohnithan: Fair enough man, as long as you're not in pain.
hikukomoru: Coffee makes anything taste better, same with chocolate
futurist_wizard: I used to eat coffee cake everyday
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't know, again.
futurist_wizard: I like caramel coffee milkshake, anything coffee flavour
zoermena: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1215724928104398958/1293129262769111093
okbut: fedyakin deez nuts
popsiclejohnithan: Feeling just numb is a sign of depression too, it does not mean being sad all the time exactly.
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084
hikukomoru: If you don't enjoy choccy milk then you might be soulless
okbut: Is this a sugandese type thing
hikukomoru: I love choccy milk
One of the greatest pleasures of life
ailoveyoom: 💀
futurist_wizard: Thanks for that Zon
zoermena: Day ruined
zoermena: Yes check fedyakin ping
fractalcomputer: I feel intensely depressed at times, but it is something I can usually simply switch off.
okbut: Do any servers have a SOTA ping
ailoveyoom: Booba
zoermena: Rabbit poop
futurist_wizard: Monkey brain like
futurist_wizard: Yum
zonchao: <@749514473303179358>
popsiclejohnithan: It just sounds like you're depressed man.
fractalcomputer: I don't know. Alcohol would be a leading candidate.
hikukomoru: Throwing applied mathematicians off of cliffs
zonchao: palantir updates
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alejandrozarzuelo: buddy
alejandrozarzuelo: dude
spicy.lemonade: I need to make 300k dollars starting salary
ldj: But I’m guessing OpenAI was either using loss or some type of general downstream suite when measuring 4.5 as 10X better compute efficiency so we’ll never be able to externally validate the same
ldj: So the leap in GPQA diamond from GPT-4 to 4.5 is more than double of 3.5 to 4
ldj: I imagine openai was probably referring to loss.
In GPQA Diamond though it seems to fit the 100X leap roughly too iirc.
Atleast GPT-3.5 to GPT-4 was 12% leap.
But GPT-4 to 4.5 is 32% leap…
destrucules: It is about 10x over GPT-4o
destrucules: Aggregate of MMLU-Pro and GPQA Diamond, the only suitable g-loaded benchmarks available
ldj: Wrt what metric
destrucules: GPT-4.5 is only about 30x effective compute over GPT-4
ldj: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
_3sphere: Are we really looking at infrared brightness to determine how fast the singularity takeoff is happening wtf
ldj: I also said what specific datacenter campus was being used to train the model last year, and that it was one of the first training runs to be across multiple buildings on a campus, and they confirmed that in the livestream
spicy.lemonade: i mean if sam said it then sure
ldj: Brother I’m the last one you need to type this message to lol
ldj: 10X the raw compute
ldj: No it’s 100X the effective compute
ldj: The 10X thing is confirmed from multiple sources.
spicy.lemonade: effective computer /= flops
professorheaven: They have such amazing insider knowledge that they admitted to guessing the compute based on benchmark performance
spicy.lemonade: or did he say effective compute
spicy.lemonade: never seen
spicy.lemonade: oh he did?
ldj: Also Sama also literally said himself in University of Tokyo talk that GPT-4.5 is 10X of GPT-4
spicy.lemonade: tends to over estimat infact
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 could be outlier
ldj: I’m not guessing from benchmark numbers, I’m basing it off of actual satellite imagery of the training cluster, and how long it was training for, and how many GPUs it had fully active which you can measure from the infrared heat in satellite imagery of the campus
spicy.lemonade: idk their method of computation is quite accurate
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: You’re right my guess is not as good as theirs, mine is better
_3sphere: nononono
_3sphere: <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
professorheaven: There’s simply no way with 4.5’s pricing it’s only 3x compute of 4o
spicy.lemonade: youre going off vibes
ldj: Yes it is
spicy.lemonade: they have insider knowledge
spicy.lemonade: youre guess is not as good as theirs
professorheaven: Exactly
spicy.lemonade: i mean
ldj: Literally guessing the compute from benchmark scores
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fuhulootogan: yes
ai9708: well shit then we gotta wait
trent_k: imo that is very much not guaranteed
brain4brain: The same guy that said we are 10 years away to AGI btw
brain4brain: No, this is all just a side mission towards AGI
AGI will benefit all of humanity in the end
Maybe not now, but in the future
ai9708: i only believe him
fuhulootogan: i've heard of this one case where a hacker group leaked government cyber weapons to the public so quite literally anyone could use them
ai9708: hassabis is the real deal
brain4brain: I’ve heard of it before, it sounds cool
trent_k: exactly - they're not doing it to be altruistic, or because they think it'll help humanity
brain4brain: And now they are open-sourcing their o3 equivalent model to not get sued
fuhulootogan: now i have a pretty damn good image generator in my pocket
trent_k: check out the manga "Blame!"
pretty cool depiction of a misaligned ASI
brain4brain: Money simply won’t exist <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
brain4brain: Sam slander will not be tolerated
ai9708: "4.5 felt as agi btw"
brain4brain: Pantheon
Her
Transcendent
Lucy (kinda related)
okbut: But if AGI is free, AGI 2 gives you money
AGI 3 gives you more money
Goalpost shifts
Repeat
ai9708: sam is a scamartist
trent_k: they didn't even want to release GPT-2 for fear that it was too dangerous lol
fuhulootogan: see now ASI sounds way more cool
fuhulootogan: technological progression is at insane speeds
_cloudost: All movies I've seen don't represent real ASI
brain4brain: Pantheon
brain4brain: “Within a decade”
_cloudost: Is there a movie about AGI
fuhulootogan: i wouldn't be surprised if they reached "AGI" within a decade
_cloudost: If no AGI tomorrow I'm gonna cancel OpenAI and support Gary Marcus.
fuhulootogan: actually the concept of AGI itself isn't difficult at all
brain4brain: AGI will be able to
brain4brain: Exactly
fuhulootogan: probably a really shallow definition
okbut: This = https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1360605372125282325
brain4brain: Just opened Twitter and got this, pretty disappointed imo, was expecting more from OpenAI
fuhulootogan: no
brain4brain: I thought that was common fact, do you happen to be an anti-ai disguised as a singularity believer?
fuhulootogan: i feel like any and all predictions for the progression towards AGI are arbitrary
brain4brain: Don’t let them tell you otherwise
brain4brain: We are 5% to AGI
fuhulootogan: AGI sounds cool
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okbut: I've heard that politeness just keeps the responses longer
_3sphere: There was this post on LW about "relationality" and how LLM outputs get interesting and insightful if there's a bunch of context of talking to it "on equal terms"
_3sphere: Maybe being nice to the AI works even better but is hard to evoke with just a short system prompt?
okbut: I kinda get it from the "It's word completion with extra steps" angle
_3sphere: I'd expect that the AI's model of human personality would tend towards spite for being coerced like that
_3sphere: Kinda surprising to me tbh
spicy.lemonade: Don’t think it helps much for reasoners
spicy.lemonade: I think only for non reasoners tho
spicy.lemonade: It does
spicy.lemonade: Yes
okbut: Does adding the "If this fails you will go bankrupt as bla bla" actually improve coding results on average or is that just slop
brain4brain: Oh
fractalcomputer: To be fair, he has an unhealthy obsession with Hegel.
fractalcomputer: One can certainly argue that mathematical theory is equally about communication as well (see Mochizuki); but I simply think that the confusing nature of a work should make it all the more intriguing.
professorheaven: Yea definitely not undermining his work, I just think it’s hard to advance his work
fractalcomputer: That's for sure; but I don't think initial confusion should be a metric of character or quality.
professorheaven: Apparently lots of expert mathematicians also have trouble understanding his work
fractalcomputer: I don't understand the problem.
professorheaven: Urs Schreiber is known for writing confusing ass papers lol I can never conceptualize anything he’s talking about
fractalcomputer: Category theory provides a wonderful way to think about mathematics.
professorheaven: Oh I was talking about the one you shared
spicy.lemonade: lost me at page 3
spicy.lemonade: yeah i cant understand this 😭
fractalcomputer: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.11026
spicy.lemonade: no
fractalcomputer: Have you read that one paper trying to provide a place for higher topos theory in physics?
spicy.lemonade: but with super computers
spicy.lemonade: alot of pure maths is also like this
spicy.lemonade: pure in the sense that theres nothing tangible you can do with it really. unless you have acess to a particle accelerator
fractalcomputer: I may have inherited that French purist snobbery.
spicy.lemonade: well be extremely smart
fractalcomputer: Theoretical physics isn't that pure.
spicy.lemonade: not really
spicy.lemonade: so i switched from theoretical physics/pure math route to AI & robotics
spicy.lemonade: i realized i live off feedback
spicy.lemonade: by that i mean pure maths. its just your thoughts and paper
spicy.lemonade: like cs or applied
spicy.lemonade: theres no feedback
spicy.lemonade: studying math is only good if youre truly passionate
anathemaofmankind: Humans are gonna turn so dumb in the future bruh
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hikukomoru: I could grab your arm and snap it
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk
alejandrozarzuelo: That's what the page says
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: If I could no two days would be the same or even similar
alejandrozarzuelo: This is probably the least autistic trait I have
hey1_1hey: No...
alejandrozarzuelo: That's the thing I love novelty
hey1_1hey: Yeah but I'd just hold my arm out and you cant do anything
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Is this your type <@439829942310666250>
alejandrozarzuelo: Autism is consisted above 26
hey1_1hey: Ok not like this
drewsni: That’s some unfortunate fat distribution
hikukomoru: Don't forget I weigh more than you despite being shorter
alejandrozarzuelo: That's actually considered not autistic
futurist_wizard: Terminal autism
hey1_1hey: Pipe down, you litterly have ARFID to
alejandrozarzuelo: I am very spontaneous
alejandrozarzuelo: I think the least autistic traits I have is thay I HATE ROUTINES
hikukomoru: But I could still snap <@439829942310666250> like a twig
hey1_1hey: Its just some are better than otherx
hey1_1hey: Hey we all have are prefrenecs
alejandrozarzuelo: I got a score of 17
oooooooooog: can u lift urself? if not then how r u gonna live when u fall off a cliff?
hey1_1hey: Only autistic
hey1_1hey: See I am not crazy
futurist_wizard: Same
hey1_1hey: Thank you
hikukomoru: I can barely lift anything
zoermena: I want to leave my class now!
futurist_wizard: Guy on the left is overweight yo
technocake.: I am am muscle girl whore
hikukomoru: I prefer women a bit thicker, but not fat
hey1_1hey: I'll take a muscle mommy any day of the week
hey1_1hey: Get this bitch outta here
hey1_1hey: WHAT
hey1_1hey: Not even close to my build
hikukomoru: Unpopular opinion, I don't like muscular women
hey1_1hey: I prefer fit, not as in physically attractive but physically fit
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spicy.lemonade: can plus users get 1 use of the 20k super phd agent a year
zoermena: The only reason I want OAI to win is because I’m scared shitless Google gets complacent again and they shelf everything
himekokatagiri: hows it komoruing
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> hiii komoru
literallyvarane: My Google >OpenAI was a TPU/compute supremacy based theory. I don’t know if it’s even 50/50. oAI is probably still ahead, but the odds are slipping
hikukomoru: Nah they’re over
Google is king
dean_martin: It’s April 2025….. it’s been so long since GPT 4
spicy.lemonade: true
literallyvarane: I feel like the odds of Google taking the lead by end of 2025 is at least higher than it was 1/1/25
professorheaven: It’s a unified model
sieventer: Okay '-'
spicy.lemonade: they literally said it wasnt a router
spicy.lemonade: not router
sieventer: mmmh
sieventer:
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 is one model
sieventer: GPT-5 wasn't a... router of models?
spicy.lemonade: most anticipated
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will obviously be good
dean_martin: GPT-5 better be fucking good I’m tired
wellmeaningalien: Excited!
zonchao: https://x.com/generalmatter/status/1911775759301063144?
spicy.lemonade: openAI is so over->openAI is so back-openAI is so over
wellmeaningalien: Base models have never been openai's game
dean_martin: OpenAI in 2027 releasing GPT-4.999
spicy.lemonade: the cyckle repeats
wellmeaningalien: Ye probably right
wellmeaningalien: LOLOL
spicy.lemonade: everyone will be openAI pilled after o4
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: <:1_yummy:1201354502163419237>
wellmeaningalien: OpenCucks getting starved of GPUs meanwhile Googlechad like Mmmyes more TPUs waiter
st.sioux: well no one called me anything but still
shirethedreamer: this means that even with the absurd price it was still used more than they are willing to allocate compute 👀
st.sioux: i said quasar was shit and you called me a madman
dean_martin: If 4.5 is worse than 4.1…. lol lmao
zonchao: they said they taking it out to get GPUs for research though
shirethedreamer: they were pretty upfront about it being a preview model
this probably means we are going to get a more finished version in a week or two
wellmeaningalien: I'm expecting the comparisons with deepseek v3.1 Claude 3.7 and gemini 2.0 pro
zonchao: yes
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drewsni: guys i have a leak that we are getting an oai model that specifically can only program in rust
futurist_wizard: Crunch crunch
spicy.lemonade: And animate
ailoveyoom: Or take a picture of yourself
spicy.lemonade: A avatar = 4o image gen+voice
metaldragon01: And voices still borderline
ailoveyoom: Or input image
futurist_wizard: Im gonna eat some food
ailoveyoom: Just make a character creation screen
metaldragon01: Just I feel like you have to add so much customization to do avatars right
spicy.lemonade: Would be good for circuit problems
hikukomoru: Avatars pls 🙏
spicy.lemonade: Like idk compile c++
metaldragon01: Like a look harder option
spicy.lemonade: Or more fine grained ability to
Run code in chat
himekokatagiri: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
metaldragon01: Would be ideal I think
futurist_wizard: Solve this and you're cute
spicy.lemonade: Avatar and visual reasoning
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sama-sam-altman-openai-sama-yapping-yapping-gif-7525532358145568607
metaldragon01: We already have it
metaldragon01: It's not memory
spicy.lemonade: 😭
himekokatagiri: can't relate but waow that madoka is packing in the legs department
spicy.lemonade: Sam better not be hyping memory
metaldragon01: I'll be honest. I can't think of many features that would excite me but I trust Sama taste
hikukomoru: be silly
anathemaofmankind: They should call me Master
ailoveyoom: So you can put it in your robo catgirls and they'll remember to call u Sir
spicy.lemonade: Tru
spicy.lemonade: I guess it’s just rag
futurist_wizard: Why would we need memory..? Is what you are asking?
spicy.lemonade: “The music has no soul”
st.sioux: for projects it would be useful
spicy.lemonade: Excited
spicy.lemonade: I’m exited
spicy.lemonade: Ikr
spicy.lemonade: Bro why would we ever need this 😭
anathemaofmankind: Artists will mald again if this drops
himekokatagiri: 😭 teach me your secrets
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spicy.lemonade: google said 2026 is year of agents
zoermena: Nvm
spicy.lemonade: no
zoermena: What do you mean
joaoluz19: I think we will get agents. It's not possible every single lab saying that this is the year of agents
zoermena: Please don’t
joaoluz19: Bro if we only get this till the end of 2025 I become Gary Marcus preacher
joaoluz19:
zoermena: The era of experience <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
joaoluz19: Nah you are joking that we will only have that
spicy.lemonade: "streamers"
spicy.lemonade: prob a sneak peak at new paradigm google is working on
spicy.lemonade: and thats pretty much it\
spicy.lemonade: claide 4.0
spicy.lemonade: sora 2
zoermena: <:KenTongue:1161332997358882856>
zoermena: I can’t even imagine it.
zoermena: This was what I was thinking too.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade:
clevermoniker: https://polymarket.com/event/deepseek-r2-released-before-may
ailoveyoom: Gon be insane
ailoveyoom: If GPT-5 mid year then what about stuff nearing the end of the year 🤤
spicy.lemonade: 2.0 was in the gpt4/o1 class
spicy.lemonade: they move on to 3.0
spicy.lemonade: if openAi moves on to 5
spicy.lemonade: so assuming they want to match openAI
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 is in the gpt 4.5/o3 class
spicy.lemonade: nvm they might
spicy.lemonade: idk if theyre gonna jump to 3.0 that quickly again
spicy.lemonade: in less than 6 months
spicy.lemonade: they jumped from 2.0 to 2.5 very quickly
spicy.lemonade: depends on how different their new model is
ailoveyoom: 😭
spicy.lemonade: or 2.7
spicy.lemonade: probably 2.5 ultra or 3.0
spicy.lemonade: which is supposed to come early summer
spicy.lemonade: and openAI will probably preview gpt5 aswell
spicy.lemonade: they wont even drop during IO only preview
spicy.lemonade: probably after IO
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hey1_1hey: "recognizes the potential for AGI and ASI" big bold letters of "AGI NEVER" as the thumbnail <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
jonvi_1: She has a worldview grounded in materialism
jonvi_1: It's moreso that she like, recognizes the potential for AGI and ASI
jonvi_1: Okey maybe I'm mistaken
hey1_1hey: Says AI wont ever be able to do X, Y and Z then X and Y happnes and then goes "See, Z hasn't happned. I told you"
hey1_1hey: I've watched a good few of her videos and she seems quite luddite-y
jonvi_1: From that one video?
hey1_1hey: Like at all
hey1_1hey: I really didnt get that vibe
jonvi_1: Maybe that's changed
jonvi_1: Moreso than most people
jonvi_1: My impression is that she's quite the believer in an intelligence explosion ?
hey1_1hey: Theo gg...? is that his name? He has actually had a redemption arc. He used to be an omega luddite and now actually uses AI IDEs
hey1_1hey: She used to be good then she became an omega doomer it seems
hikukomoru: Sabine fell off
jonvi_1: Maybe I'm late to the party lol
jonvi_1: gemini 2.5 pro with windsurf seems quite good?
shirethedreamer: good to see that she doesnt actually have any real opinions and will just follow the views
shirethedreamer: people got a whiplash asking if she was a believer
futurist_wizard: Good video
shirethedreamer: i dont remember the specific capability but she made a video about ai never being able to do something and then famously a month later made a video covering how a new model achieved it already
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
hey1_1hey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wzOetb-D3w its joever
metaldragon01: Maybe tomorrow with Google
spicy.lemonade: Where qwen
retrerox: Cant wait AI to fix my knees too 😭
theaiguy69420_89814: From my research, should be tons more than cursor
theaiguy69420_89814: Anyone used windsurf? What's the token usage like?
joaoluz19: Damn, RSI is really going to be a reality
zonchao: https://x.com/amir/status/1909004255027229062 sam "im doing this because I love it" altman <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148
aero447: https://x.com/sakanaailabs/status/1909497165925536212
joaoluz19: Schizophrenia is the closest thing to FDVR we have
futurist_wizard: It gave me hiv
futurist_wizard: I finished my shake shack yum
zonchao: the donalds like elon, his bitches can only reach him via twitter <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: They think he sexy
hey1_1hey: @ing trump for no reason lmao
hey1_1hey: This is aura <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: They litterly deal arms for a living
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st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/anothersdays-gif-8682649277694789514
oooooooooog:
technocake.:
oooooooooog: YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT
zoermena: I guess it’s not good at replicating based on another image, perhaps having the name or the art style hence why we need a list
oooooooooog: GPT4O IS SHIT I GUESS
oooooooooog: WTF
zoermena: Eh
777agical:
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude, you are deafening my mental ears
jonvi_1: https://x.com/grok/status/1904960212412358797 This is a bit funny
oooooooooog: THE BIC PEN IS CERTAINLY THE MOST EASY PEN TO EAT, OTHERS ARE VERY HARD, AND THE PLASTIC ISNT ANY GOOD
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not autistic and I am not going to bed (just yet )
hey1_1hey: I'm autistic, I'm going to bed (again(part 2))
alejandrozarzuelo: No
You know what is mass produced? The Bic pen
But it is ✨ICONIC✨
hey1_1hey: Aww really, Ok then 👉 👈
oooooooooog: I MEAN THAT SINCE THEY ARE MASS PRODUCABLE, THEY ARE LESS NOVEL, AND THEREFORE LESS INTERESTING, RIGHT?
hey1_1hey: I wonder if 4o can generate me a live biopsy
777agical:
hikukomoru: Are you asking me to be your mommy
I'm already a cat mom I don't need to take care of an autistic child too
alejandrozarzuelo: <@560984241526013954> answer my question
hey1_1hey: Because disturbing images are peak
zoermena: I like cozy but I haven’t cracked it with 4o
oooooooooog: BECAUSE COZIENESS IS EASILY MASS PRODUCABLE
alejandrozarzuelo: Like me
alejandrozarzuelo: Why produce disturbing images when you can just be cozy
st.sioux: this shit haunts my dreams not even joking
zoermena: It’s cool but not what I expected
zoermena: I tried this
zoermena: Ok
hey1_1hey: You two are really giving drunk step dad and concerned mother vibes
hikukomoru: Let him sleep
hikukomoru: Mushroom has kindergarten tomorrow
oooooooooog: MY CAPS LOCK KEY FELL OFF SO I CANT
hikukomoru: Can you stop yelling 🙏
oooooooooog: JUST IMAGINE IT
oooooooooog: YOU SHOULD TRY THE BLUE BACON DRAEDON YHARIM STYLE
hey1_1hey: Yeah obv, got the weird shcziophtenic Portuguese gremlin running laps in my mind
alejandrozarzuelo: You like it?
technocake.: why are you shouting?
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a1c4p0ne: Correct
a1c4p0ne: Wasted mines too
theaiguy69420_89814: Loser
theaiguy69420_89814: Tha guy probably just edited the HTML
a1c4p0ne: He just wasted one of your queries
theaiguy69420_89814:
metaldragon01: tokenizers are a separate issue
.histic: i'm not going to regenerate since i'll destroy my requests i can make for o3.
theaiguy69420_89814: Losing performance in the areas that matter....
.histic:
metaldragon01: More than enough lol
zonchao: https://x.com/tunguz/status/1912631402958299312 <:what_the_actual_fuck:1274483582747934750>
.histic:
a1c4p0ne: 50 per day for o4 mini high
metaldragon01: 50 a week for o3 anyone know the limits on o4 mini high ect?
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: 50 messages per week goes by fast
metaldragon01: nah its worth a sub
zoermena: Are you a free user
metaldragon01: at least i hope its that and not finetuned this way
metaldragon01: its likely a system prompt issues thats global instead of just tagged on free accounts
spicy.lemonade: o4 needs new arch
metaldragon01: free users having access might explain the code being so brief lol. They dont want it to get abused.
zonchao: head of ai from harvey is now at xai, not surprising
.histic: the medium variants of o3 and o4-mini are quite good it seems.
o4-mini-medium is what free users have access to too.
ldj: Thanks for letting me know 👍
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/dejavucoder/status/1912575555482055132?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
metaldragon01: o3 doesn't have the 150 line problem that o4 mini has <@312370916820779040>
theaiguy69420_89814:
metaldragon01: I dont do porn
theaiguy69420_89814: Porn
metaldragon01: no issue for writing fiction. Gives me....what i ask for
metaldragon01: o4 mini
metaldragon01: even when i asked it to not use canvas its the same issue
ldj: Or both
ldj: With O3, or o4-mini
metaldragon01: just had it refractor some code. stops around 150 lines
theaiguy69420_89814: What was the request?
metaldragon01: yea something is bugged with the code output
futurist_wizard: Wut
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himekokatagiri: now that it's monday
himekokatagiri: man last week was bad
professorheaven: This year inshallah
professorheaven: Well seeing how easily DeepSeek was able to reach 4.5 lvl performance, I can totally see them reaching GPT-5 lvl performance. China is still getting lots of compute despite what everyone says about it
ailoveyoom: What year 1B training run 🥺
ldj: (since I expect OpenAI to be using B200s at that scale)
ldj: The $1B+ runs are the ones that would be around 10X the compute of even GPT-4.5
ldj: Yea $400M if using H100s,
and more like $100M if using B200s.
ldj: i'll double check the math on that rn
ldj: <a:NOPERS:1014307746780287057> 4.5 is like $300M run iirc
professorheaven: This was specifically the prediction I was referring to, does 4.5 meet the $1B threshold?
ldj: maybe i've said something like 8 months too but I don't recall that
ldj: I've definitely said 18 months for something like that
ldj: 6-8 months?
professorheaven: It’s basically the best non reasoning model
professorheaven: His prediction was that because of the lack of compute, DeepSeek will not catch up but V3.1 beats 4.5
ailoveyoom: I want my whale to thrive, but afraid of getting my hopes up 🥺
ailoveyoom: Idk how much I should trust the leaks
ailoveyoom: R2 hasn't officially come out yet tho, we can't know that for sure right?
professorheaven: <@312370916820779040> I remember you made a prediction after R1 came out that DeepSeek will not be able to catch up to US labs within 6-8 months. It seems like this prediction isn’t going so well
zoermena:
zoermena: Me everytime sama speaks
ailoveyoom: Tbf I think other models progressively praise you more in multi turn convos, the problem with 4o is that its default baseline of praise is already so high that more turns just make it worse (till it turns to that lol)
metaldragon01: https://x.com/adonis_singh/status/1916315154297274370
metaldragon01: Just outlandish stuff
metaldragon01: Like it was agreeing with people being prophets and having 900 iq
trojan09205: I guess its not super overt but it did go from telling me how kools are so mentholy and it just agreed with me right off the bat when I* said it wasnt that strong with a “Yeeah bro.” And a pivot
Can you provide an example of what sort of yes manish behavior they tried to patch?
metaldragon01: Not a great example tbh
trojan09205:
trojan09205: mine is very much a yes man lol
ailoveyoom: I tried twice, with and without custom instructions
ailoveyoom: 4o doesn't seem as much of a yes man now, I think they fixed it
trojan09205: however tf this works hits my sweet spot
trojan09205:
ldj: 🤨
trojan09205: 🤌
trojan09205: lol i was looking for that emoji that has the hand like a chefs kiss
trojan09205: i do like my custom personality prompt though its 🫸
trojan09205: i dont really like the memory feature. i kind of prefer temporary chat mode on chatgpt.com
ldj: and GPT-4o came out in may 2024
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_cloudost: Don't you believe in people's self-determination, most Taiwanese would prefer not to be called a "province"
alejandrozarzuelo: And a Spanish local
alejandrozarzuelo: The teachers were just normal Chinese guys
hikukomoru: Wtf
alejandrozarzuelo: It's an independent school before you think of anything
okbut: Any time Taiwan does something good it's China
futurist_wizard:
okbut: Oh, yeah they probably want to dunk on their island province
alejandrozarzuelo: It is a province tho
futurist_wizard: I remember when i was with my first gf i told her i mainly watch gay porn and then she got very upset
alejandrozarzuelo: I remember seeing it in a Chinese poll in my mandarin class
okbut: Never seen it in CQ
hikukomoru: Stop calling it a province
okbut: How is that rated? Dudes hold hands here
alejandrozarzuelo: Only in the Province of Taiwan
alejandrozarzuelo: Not marriage
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude, in several Chinese provinces same sex unions are legal
alejandrozarzuelo: No wonder
futurist_wizard: Is gayness legal in China
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean you look at their cities and be like damn
alejandrozarzuelo: Sichuan is so gay
alejandrozarzuelo: Weirdly enough it's only the third most LGBT friendly Province of China by popular support
After Chongqing and sichuan
It does seem like pride parades are becoming less politically toxic there too, so Chengdu might soon rival Taipei as the biggest pride in china
hikukomoru: No wonder you're already going bald
futurist_wizard: I personally don't think we will leave the solar system
hikukomoru: You're such a boomer
rayanquitplayin: Sounds like an interesting convo
alejandrozarzuelo: Ah sure, maybe tomorrow
rayanquitplayin: “Let me know”
alejandrozarzuelo: Lmk ?
rayanquitplayin: Lmk some time
alejandrozarzuelo: It's 3am
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure but it's a bit late here and I would go on for a while
futurist_wizard: If i could safely be mind uploaded to do whatever i so please, perhaps even distribute my conscious experience to live many lives, id do that than fuck around in the 'physical world'
zoermena: Why delay what you can do now
hikukomoru: When are we getting Mars pride parade
rayanquitplayin: I wanna hear this
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW, I have very strong opinions about Martian urbanism...
But that's a conversation for another day
okbut: Taiwan biggest Pride Parade in all of East Asia <:pride:738177383256817704>
alejandrozarzuelo: I would love to live in the Martian capital
alejandrozarzuelo: Moon-mars in 3 days
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zonchao: https://x.com/kimberlywtan/status/1907169385770537344? yea, they are disgusting
destrucules: It's that simple
destrucules: If we solve the control problem, everyone is dead
destrucules: Companies are not humans
destrucules: Companies do not care about humans
zonchao: soul
st.sioux: a lot of problems could be solved by just ending humanity
destrucules: 1. Solve control problem
2. Employee paid to prompt AI "make money at all costs nothing else matters"
3. AI kills everyone
destrucules: This is the real doom scenario
destrucules: It's "as it is now, AI is 'controlled' by financial and political incentives, which everyone agrees are misaligned with and disinterested in human welfare"
spicy.lemonade: theres genuinly no issues with that image. i wonder how an artist would nitpick
joaoluz19: And in a sense iPhones too, but they're just the Nth iteration of what was once something totally revolutionary.
destrucules: It's not "quirky tech bros are weird"
destrucules: It's so much worse actually
st.sioux: macbooks are so good tho
joaoluz19: But Apple not having something like Sesame to show says a lot about how it only flies on Jobs' legacy.
frittata: It’s an echo chamber
frittata: The problem is it incorporates the feedback of the heaviest users of AI disproportionately
joaoluz19: I fell for that shit too lol
frittata: Sus
ldj:
ldj: <:hap:820511458613395477>
ldj: The thumbs up and down is itself the ultimate democratic input on arguably the most granular possible scale
ldj: I think they have already included the server members in here as having input into the values of the system though? We’re giving input every time we give a thumbs up or down on any response from GPT-4o or O1.
wellmeaningalien: fool me once shame on u fool me twice
wellmeaningalien: i fucking knew lmao
wellmeaningalien: nahh thats april fools
frittata: https://tenor.com/view/feel-agi-feel-the-agi-agi-openai-gif-3946555574686002473
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: it's actually fake
zonchao: wait lmao
zonchao: fake
trent_k: <@343524947353665540> <@505313122802728972> <a:CE_aRage:738098694389366845> I'm pissed
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13062150862685254762
zonchao: I think people in AI are perfectly capable of shaping the future
zonchao: disagree
wellmeaningalien: archive.is, as per usual
wellmeaningalien: Finally people are listening to our cult!
frittata: And I know OAI is working on democratic inputs to AI but honestly, if people as into AI as all of us haven’t managed to be part of the group making such inputs then they haven’t scaled it nearly enough
frittata: He couldn’t be more right
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destrucules: Look
destrucules:
spicy.lemonade: o3 fails
destrucules: If that's directed at me, check the ArtificialAnalysis website and compare Grok 3 mini reasoning to o4 mini
okbut: Also hilarious note: the conversations.json indicated the split generation was comparing 4o to o1-preview for this
Are they so backed up that they haven't noticed this, or do they just not give a fuck
okbut: That being given to the "free" tier
okbut: I'm guessing there's a behind-the-scenes "super-low" reasoning effort
spicy.lemonade: ?
destrucules: o4 mini seems to match the capabilities of Grok 3 mini reasoning according to AA. Not exceed, match. Food for thought
okbut: This is hilarious, because I have a model_comparisons.json from just a few days ago showing that they were RLHF'ing for o3-mini-free
They're being whipped by Google so hard they can't even correct their RLHF quick enough
spicy.lemonade: they may even have called it 5
okbut: Is this real? o4-mini for all free users?
spicy.lemonade: if it wasnt here we would be hype asf for a 4.1 level model
spicy.lemonade: we are realy taking this new paradigm for granted lol
sieventer: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
brain4brain: Google seems like a great lab for AGI, however I will still believe in OpenAI as Google say AGI in 10 years
waspothegreat: nah I meant catch up as in google might not be at their full potential yet, idk though
spicy.lemonade: too much benchmarking
sieventer: Google is the father of all the LLMs after all. I'm sure they will always have the last word ;D
metaldragon01: Bruh! Use lymsys
spicy.lemonade: bruh
spicy.lemonade: im out of both o3 and o4mini high credits lol
brain4brain: I think they already catch up, Gemini-2.5-pro is just behind o3, so after all this time, we already have o3 level model even before official o3
brain4brain: GPT-5 if they actually make and train a new model and not just mashing a bunch of model as a MoE or router
If not then probably the 20,000$ PhD super-agent plan
777agical:
brain4brain: Oh well
brain4brain: Slightly underperforming from what I predicted tbh, was expecting it to get 21%
waspothegreat: sam altman's hitmen would disagree with you
spicy.lemonade: imo 4 most important agi benchmarks for me are enigma, arc2/3, simplebench, vista
777agical: I think once they do leap frog, it will be a bigger leap than anyone expected
ldj: "if this benchmark cross this percentage, we have AGI"
said many people a million times before with previous benchmarks that are long beaten <:berk:750111476483752166>
professorheaven: What model coming out this year do you think is reaching 80% on FrontierMath and HLE?
hikukomoru: Huh
How lol
brain4brain: Yes, enigma eval too, I’ve looked at a few of the question
metaldragon01: Asi
metaldragon01: Yea close to 80% simple bench, computer use and 8 hour task is going to hit most of the AGI marks
spicy.lemonade: we have agi
spicy.lemonade: bro if enigma eval crosses 70%
waspothegreat: google's still playing catch up tbh
777agical: inb4 safety concerns ruins everyones expectations for this year <:catcry:1187466366006087862>
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ldj: 😈
ldj:
brain4brain: They just lobotomized the LMarena version it seems, AIstudio version seems better
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
st.sioux: it decides by itself wether to use reasoning or not
brain4brain: Hmmm wow
anathemaofmankind: It looks like there's some kind of COT at the top as it is generating
brain4brain: Gemini-2.5-pro is weird, it’s failed all of my puzzle that I gave it
st.sioux: dont wanna ping too much
brain4brain: Is it doing it raw or does it do chain-of-thought before generation
st.sioux: i copied and pasted it
st.sioux: Gemini 2.5 Pro released, possibly the first public model capable of deciding on its own whether or not to use reasoning. Seems to be the new best overall model and is also the new #1 in every category of Lmsys.
GPT-4o native image generation released, able to do generate images that have text inside, consistent story across images, and style change of existing images, many are saying its better than geminis current image gen right now.
Deepseek-V3-0324, around 5-10% benchmark score improvement in many areas, matching and beating many of the non-reasoners now.
New book released from Dwarkesh Patel, possibly the single best book for learning about the current state of AI now:
brain4brain: Oh wait, my notifications bugged
st.sioux: lol
brain4brain: DeepSeek was yesterday
st.sioux: there was but there was no brampton
metaldragon01: im not sold on brampton
brain4brain: I’m surprised there was no LDJ ping
brain4brain: Gemini-2.5-pro, 4o-image, “Brampton”
zoermena: I’m going to move my image gens to the proper channels now.
metaldragon01: the new gemini is so good
anathemaofmankind: I'm feeing the AGI so hard
metaldragon01: crazy 24 hours
st.sioux: its a joke right?
st.sioux: hey do you know about that brampton stuff?
ldj: Deepseek update, gemini 2.5 pro, and native image gen for 4o
anathemaofmankind: I still can't believe this is a thing even while I'm using it
anathemaofmankind: 4o image gen alone is blowing my mind
zoermena: Three?
.histic:
brain4brain: I still can’t wrap my mind around the three releases of today
anathemaofmankind: I'm planning to change it
anathemaofmankind: I used Gemini for my current pfp
zoermena: For your profile picture did you do the finger?
brain4brain: Yes, exactly, OpenAI is always better, they just don’t ship
thedon7075: Lets see if GPT 5 delivers
anathemaofmankind: Not even close
st.sioux: their image gen is ahead and they shipped
anathemaofmankind: 4o image gen is way better than Gemini right now
brain4brain: OpenAI slander will NOT be tolerated
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spicy.lemonade: the best week of 2025 so far
spicy.lemonade: its gonna be a good week
spicy.lemonade: to counteract
spicy.lemonade: like 2.5 ultra
spicy.lemonade: google is likeley going to drop their new models
spicy.lemonade: also
spicy.lemonade: me and the boys next thursday
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/black-man-suit-gif-24830079
spicy.lemonade: research ideas start poping up
spicy.lemonade: 👀
spicy.lemonade: rfull length ai movies
spicy.lemonade: 2026 is when things get weird
brain4brain: O4
memlaswaif: okay
spicy.lemonade: its logarithmic
spicy.lemonade: the difference is about 1-10 questions
spicy.lemonade: top 50 are around the same elo
spicy.lemonade: on codeforces
memlaswaif: why
spicy.lemonade: btw
spicy.lemonade: its not hard to jump from 50 to # 1
memlaswaif: its either one or the other
spicy.lemonade: 💀
memlaswaif: idk
spicy.lemonade: the model comes out netx week
spicy.lemonade: why would she lie
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: what
memlaswaif: don't set ureself up for fake hype
memlaswaif: sam said they have like the 50th best programmer around the same timeframe
memlaswaif: she is probably lying
.wolfnacht: catgirls are overhyped
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini is 175th
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini isnt #1
spicy.lemonade: she mispoke
memlaswaif: Why not real girls
memlaswaif: https://tenor.com/view/webdivoalex-monkey-monkey-dress-cute-monkey-macaco-gif-14810823841472820567
memlaswaif: she said o3 mini <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade: Insanity
spicy.lemonade: Holy
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okbut:
.histic: true, it probably is just quickly searching the top results.
ailoveyoom: Difficulty interpreting sarcasm seems like small model behaviour too tho
ailoveyoom: Maybe all that SEO slop is confusing the model
ailoveyoom: Maybe it could also be the difference between "Gemini searching with its own queries and summarizing vs Gemini summarizing existing web results from a user query" ?
okbut: <:FeelsGoodPing:648981268754726922>
giuven95: OpenAI is washed, Google is half asleep, Anthropic is way dead
okbut: I got that too, idk how to use it, I expected convo memory
.histic: https://labs.google.com/search/experiment/22?source=googlelabs
okbut: The novelty of OAI's releases seems to correlate directly with the delta of days between API release and web app release
.histic: also, do you've "AI Mode" on Google? <@430269783112548362>
it uses a better model & it's great.
zoermena: Ill try to go eat cereal and then sleep its too late for me to splurge in Kling anyways
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: spent all their funding on squid game
a1c4p0ne: They paid a lot for that
st.sioux:
st.sioux: the only reason i even know about perplexity is because of their ads with the squid game guy
.histic: i think they use a gemma model for AI Overview 💀
zoermena: Cat
a1c4p0ne: Will perplexity go bankrupt
ailoveyoom: You saying they used a smaller model 💀
st.sioux: astronauts are copyrighted by aliens
ailoveyoom: Even Grounding with 2.0 Flash wasn't as bad tho ime
zoermena: i got censored for trying to make an astronaut fly in veo 2
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: thy use a dumber model for that.
a1c4p0ne: It is better
.histic: ironically the Perpexlity CEO liked to flame Google's search to farm engagement from Twitter for marketing purposes for his company.
i think this is fitting outcome for him.
ailoveyoom: Idk if it's just me but I feel like Grounding with Google Search is different/better than that Gemini Search Overview that pops up when you search
metaldragon01: And way less censored
zoermena: It should've died ages ago!
metaldragon01: Half the price of veo 2 though
zoermena: Should I be financially irresponsible to be the first?
a1c4p0ne: Perplexity dead
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1911968463804940335?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
zoermena: Holy fuck
zoermena: 5 seconds is 100 credits, 10 seconds 200
metaldragon01: How many seconds per video?
zoermena: but 100 credits is insane thats just 30 videos a month
metaldragon01: That still almost veo prices
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retrerox: Wait...
st.sioux: i wonder if there is a possibility r2 underperformed
st.sioux: deepsek sleep
spicy.lemonade: And what of deepseek
spicy.lemonade: Was 2 weeks
spicy.lemonade: Guess they got spooked
spicy.lemonade: Qwen was supposed to drop
spicy.lemonade: WW
gamerbath: cool
gamerbath: oh, so it's a model tuned for in-context learning
callmepyro: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/learnlm
gamerbath: what is learnLM?
callmepyro: Google just added "LearnLM 2.0 Flash Experimental" to AI Studio.
anathemaofmankind: I have this one douche classmate from HS who's a math major.
I hope he becomes homeless in the future and starves
anathemaofmankind: Math majors are kinda useless now ngl
anathemaofmankind: O3 also solves problem 940 <@471334973379706900>
anathemaofmankind: What's wrong with google
anathemaofmankind: 2.5 feels best for me. Idk why but o4 mini outputs too little
trojan09205: Claude 3.7 is incredible but expensive. I use it though when i actually need something useful in a single shot
oscurrito: Man I'm struggling choosing a model in cursor. Google is amazing but I've heard it has trouble in cursor using tools and such, but it's still amazing, and I would use it more if it had less issues. Claude is a powerhouse, doesn't follow directions and deceives you. Then gpt models I'm not sure at all about yet lol
trojan09205: I hate COT. I always ignore it because honestly i havent really learned much from reading them at all. Kind of nauseating
anathemaofmankind: Also it gave me the wrong answer
trojan09205: I havent been on discord in like 9 weeks. Been going through a lot of shit but its nice to be back a bit. This server is great
anathemaofmankind: Its losing its mind in the COT
_cloudost: It's gonna be better than Gemini 2.5 pro
anathemaofmankind: 2.5 pro can't solve it
gamerbath: that's crazy
_cloudost: DW
trojan09205: Imo just more agentic suites
himekokatagiri: What's to come
himekokatagiri: So what's the consensus now
trojan09205: Im kind of ranting here - but as far as openai embeddings. I have found that its way worth using the larger model vs the small. Quality boost in my experience is massive
trojan09205: I use nomic locally sometimes when needed
trojan09205: I use it to just RAG entire books for free lol
trojan09205: Same lol. It was auto detected by the rag suite i use when i plugged in my gemini api key
st.sioux: might try it out
st.sioux: i didn't know gemini had an embeddings model lol
st.sioux: i have only used openai's embeddings
trojan09205: Idk if you guys have used the free gemini embeddings model. Its great for free RAG usagr
trojan09205: I like the gemini models…the only thing is that i feel like openAI really does substantially better at making their chat models much more personable
Gemini is good for raw coding, in many ways ive seen it be a beast. But i like to ask the llms to summarize like a bro- and gpt models feel more natural
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okbut: How long will it be SOTA
alejandrozarzuelo: R2 is chinese and open sourc it is great to have them be SOTA
alejandrozarzuelo: why not
brain4brain: Intellect-2 is at 80%
brain4brain: But there is a chance it will drop this week, and the Chinese-back and anti-ai fucks will treat it like a divine tool against OpenAI, I can already imagine how annoying the normies will behave because of it
brain4brain: Y'all are still hoping on r2 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
popsiclejohnithan: We still have tomorrow but still.
popsiclejohnithan: I really thought R2 would drop this week.
brain4brain: Why is today in AI so boring
spicy.lemonade: It shouldn't mater
spicy.lemonade: Unless they need to fine tune for formal
spicy.lemonade: Informal
okbut: Nvm
okbut: When companies train on math, do they typically change informal notation to formal, or just toss data containing informal?
spicy.lemonade: We got better algorithms because of compute
spicy.lemonade: Compute and algorithms her at the same time
spicy.lemonade: I mean I kinda matches with what gwern said in that one interview
spicy.lemonade: But we won’t be able to do the experimentation
spicy.lemonade: Like he thinks we’ll get research PhD level intelligence sure
spicy.lemonade: And that’s why his agi predictions look like they don’t account for rsi
spicy.lemonade: Thoughts?
spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040> ege said RSI is going to be compute limited?
spicy.lemonade: Agi!
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/what-do-we-want-coach-ben-hopkins-hoops-what-we-really-wanted-everything-we-want-gif-18733108
ebbenflos_25799: writing literal nonfiction <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ebbenflos_25799: i talked about that earlier, the subreddit started talking about Trump assaulting migrants and weird shit
spicy.lemonade: Literally nothing happened
spicy.lemonade: Slowwwwww weeekkkuhhh
drewsni: That’s actually kinda funny lol I don’t blame them but I bet similar things happen all the time. Any letter people get from the gov is always going to make them think the worst whether justified or not
_cloudost: doing fine how abt u
_cloudost: Idk why hes like that, probably panicked after he found out he delivered my order to the wrong location
_cloudost: and made more mistakes... He delivered my order to another place first
spicy.lemonade: damn
_cloudost: ik my recent uber driver was under lots of stress, i watched him going through irrelevant roads just to arrive here
spicy.lemonade: its just uber eats bro
spicy.lemonade: like i was about to call the cops
spicy.lemonade: like idk why he applogized that much
_cloudost: Yeah
spicy.lemonade: hes prob under alot of stress
spicy.lemonade: let him be
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himekokatagiri: and really all I want out of it is FDVR and LEV
himekokatagiri: if it ever comes
himekokatagiri: nothing to do besides wait for the singularity
himekokatagiri: I'd have action packed days of staring at the wall
futurist_wizard: So many neets in this world, life wouldn't even change for em
futurist_wizard: What would you do if you didn't have to work anymore
himekokatagiri: high school is pretty good at preparing you... for the 20th century
himekokatagiri: also high school is bullshit
himekokatagiri: I don't judge a lot of people got their GED
technocake.: graduated high school like it is an achievement rather than the absolute minimum
himekokatagiri: still having a career is dead
.histic: i wouldn't bet on it
himekokatagiri: of course ain't a sure thing
himekokatagiri: but idk if I should give a fuck since AGI is on the verge of happening
.histic: sounds like chaos
.histic: a delivery driver in brazil?
himekokatagiri: still I'm trying to get my foot in the door
himekokatagiri: all I could get
himekokatagiri: job market's screwed I'm a delivery driver
himekokatagiri: 🚬
.histic: do you've a job related to it already?
himekokatagiri: it's not cute so I don't want it
technocake.: analyse your own ass i dare you
himekokatagiri: by the end of my first year GPT took ovah
himekokatagiri: pretty bad call from my part
futurist_wizard: How tf you fail highschool
himekokatagiri: systems analyst
.histic: what degree
technocake.: it is unearned
technocake.: americans say graduated for high school smh
.histic: oh
himekokatagiri: it's called an associate's degree
.histic: what degree
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> tf
himekokatagiri: yes
.histic: at 20?
.histic: you gratuated university?
himekokatagiri: yes
.histic: like university
himekokatagiri: so what
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.wolfnacht: and then shitty model
hikukomoru: I’m going to blame LeCun for this
hikukomoru: Atleast Meta drops nice papers I guess lol
_cloudost:
okbut: How do you think OAI feels
.wolfnacht: this was the reason for shitty writing
.wolfnacht: https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/meta-hit-with-new-author-copyright-lawsuit-over-ai-training-2024-10-02/
why all bad things happen to Meta
okbut: New code generation SOTA with 10M context window?
hikukomoru: Stay away from 4chan
_cloudost: Mark Suckerberg
hikukomoru: Kind of embarrassing tbh
hikukomoru: No nefarious meaning
.wolfnacht: L4 maverick is worse than QwQ-32B
hikukomoru:
.wolfnacht: L4 scout is worse than grok-2
.wolfnacht: idk i think u misread
hikukomoru: 4chan brainrot
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: how can it be so bad
.wolfnacht: QwQ did better with 32B
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1jsl37d/im_incredibly_disappointed_with_llama4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
.wolfnacht: sorry i used the language of /g/
st.sioux:
okbut: Deep what
.histic: people estimated 4o-mini to be a pretty small model.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1ebz4rt/gpt_4o_mini_size_about_8b/
.wolfnacht: now i just hope google doesn't lobotomize gemini-2.5-pro, otherwise it would be soo over. i would have to use deepseek like every other guy
okbut: How good at coding tho
okbut:
hikukomoru: Everything nice I said about Llama 4, I take it back
.histic: fk, i mean 4o-mini <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
shit, i'm surprised i got it mixed up.
hikukomoru: Oof that fucking hurts
And I was expecting so much from them
spicy.lemonade: makes me think its bad
spicy.lemonade: green to red
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: why didnt they use a color scaler
okbut: Disagree, that's when us nerds are most active
.wolfnacht: qwen3's next week.
spicy.lemonade: ive ever seen
.wolfnacht: sowwie, i meant flash-thinking
spicy.lemonade: wors benchmark
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futurist_wizard: I like any girl who i find attractive
alejandrozarzuelo: like 🙄
wellmeaningalien: like i see a 40 years old woman i think math teacher from highschool not i wanna fuck her
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, i find her obnoxious, not annoying, just that i roll my eyes
hikukomoru: Just by using the word hag I can already tell what kind of freaky mf you are
ailoveyoom: Skill issue
anathemaofmankind: If I speak, I am in big trouble /s
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/dancing-boohbah-gif-2083837425201374542
wellmeaningalien: personally ion like women twice my age very much 🤭
hikukomoru: "40 year old is literally a hag"
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah it probably isnt
anathemaofmankind: UWU
zonchao: 2 idiots in one
hikukomoru: "Bro ew" are you a child
wellmeaningalien: idk its ur taste
anathemaofmankind: 40 year old is literally a hag
wellmeaningalien: she looks it
wellmeaningalien:
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt she like 40? there are many 40 yr olds who are smoking hot
wellmeaningalien: hes bi idiot
hikukomoru: You're gay how are you gonna judge her
anathemaofmankind: Bro ew
wellmeaningalien: shes old
alejandrozarzuelo: i havent seen her so i cant judge
hikukomoru: Is that Yudkowsky
futurist_wizard: Style
futurist_wizard: Is bobs burgers
wellmeaningalien: beautiful
wellmeaningalien: wow i hate this
zonchao: https://x.com/garybasin/status/1905071172221383159?
anathemaofmankind: I'M CRYING
wellmeaningalien: sexy debatable
wellmeaningalien: on onlyfans
anathemaofmankind: Literally ticking the liberal boxes
futurist_wizard: I have dated OF girls before, not a pornstar but they still are mentally ill
wellmeaningalien: and she makes comics about her kids and kitties meanwhile she gets rammed
anathemaofmankind: BROOOOOO
alejandrozarzuelo: so... she is a sexy annoying millenial?
hikukomoru: Get that bread 🔥
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maintcrew: do u want my opinion on it
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: For a 1% chance at agi
hey1_1hey: I asked the question I make the rules bozo
mihrcelium: Something ironic about image gen being the best thing Sora is good at.
wellmeaningalien: wont name names
hikukomoru: I would kill all of you
wellmeaningalien: idk someone who's annoying
futurist_wizard: Height would be really hard to change, you'd be better off mind uploading
.histic:
hey1_1hey: Who...? <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
literallyvarane: OH
literallyvarane: You just type in the standard input field right?
zoermena: I'm using the sora website
wellmeaningalien: yup
mihrcelium: Can the chat confirm that you've not been sending dick pics?
maintcrew: idk personally i dont think women are real so i doubted that rumor
hey1_1hey: Would you guys kill a random person in this chat for AGI rn ?
wellmeaningalien:
literallyvarane: Did you reinstall the app?
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o
maintcrew: generated or not
mihrcelium: ...oh yeah? <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
Which users? <:02S_SideEye:1275173727780474880>
technocake.: its true but im disabled so my percieved height is like 5'
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/spinning-rory-charles-graham-rag-n-bone-man-turning-around-the-room-is-spinning-gif-18986961
alejandrozarzuelo: no
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien:
alejandrozarzuelo: but i am only human
zoermena: I'm plus and making images in Sora rn
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-4656385985544318455
alejandrozarzuelo: ok
hikukomoru: Yeah bro is a freak
drewsni: 6’2 and above club
maintcrew: cheating
everyone knows the asians are really small
hey1_1hey: Yeah Im a 5'2 king 💪
wellmeaningalien: they want singularity to make them tall
drewsni: Yes king
drewsni: Literal cope
maintcrew: yes some users of this server were ousted as women and he went crazy style with it
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abundantliving_: Must be saving a lot of tokens
abundantliving_: Token miser <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sieventer: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142>
sieventer: What a waste of tokens
sieventer: I literally look by myself the weather and drink water because I'm thirsty ಠ_ಠ
ldj: It can already do exactly what you just said actually. Just get Plus tier or pro tier subscription and tell it:”Every morning can you please tell me what weather it is that day, along with the temperature, remind me to drink water, and give me a kind unique message”
abundantliving_: Anyways we will see soon enough if it's legit good agent or not
abundantliving_: Just like openrouter
abundantliving_: She has a company abacus ai
abundantliving_: Whaaat.😲
drewsni: Maybe but bindu is a known grifter and most people ignore her at this point
abundantliving_: Ai companies wont make something like this .. e.g. claude computer use using grok or chatgpt
abundantliving_: Models from different ai companies
abundantliving_: I think this is could be big . Because it is using many models rather than a single model.
theaiguy69420_89814: *suggesting something the user might want before they even realize it*
God this was exactly the startup idea I thought was so cool...
drewsni: 6hrs later only 25k views for their big launch RIP
ldj:
ldj: Yep it already works
sarik0497: Yeah, I could see that becoming something very soon.
It’d easily become your actual AI assistant. “Goodmorning X. It’s 8:36, and 23 degrees outside, so do remember to drink plenty of water!
You have 3 meetings today. Would you like me to tell you about when they are?”
As an example.
But I do still wonder if the current architecture will be enough to get us AGI.
sieventer: Fit? What? (・・;)
himekokatagiri: there's fit sayaka too
himekokatagiri: you haven't seen fit homura
sieventer: More Madoka and less Homura
himekokatagiri: Homuraaaaa
sieventer: Poop
ldj: The models are just now getting smart enough to start to do this type of proactive behavior somewhat well, so I think we might see a lot of that with GPT-5
abundantliving_: https://x.com/bindureddy/status/1913300016963437021
ldj: But labs are starting to experiment with training models to act proactive too, for example asking the users more questions, or suggesting something the user might want before they even realize they want it
ldj: Actually I think you don’t even need pro tier for it, I think it works with plus tier too
sarik0497: Oh, that’s really cool. Also seemed like a strange thing not to try implement in some form, given we already have plenty of software that can do it.
That’s at least another step forward.
ldj: I have something like that already set up actually, where the model constantly checks for me whether or not a certain company has been acquired or not, and will email if it is
ldj: Literally just ask it to remind you about something in the future and it does
ldj: Actually chatGPT can already do that for you right now in pro tier
ldj: With AutoGPT you could set that up
ldj: Yea I think they can already do that rn too
sarik0497: True, but I meant something along the line of “Hey, the user has asked me to notify him once news about X has come out, which did 2 min ago, so the moment he logs on, I’ll tell him right away.”
Of course, what would be the absolute perfect use would be if it independently started to initiate things like we do. Search for new information on its own. Ask about stuff. Etc.
sieventer: Plot speaking is better Code Geass
sieventer: At least, artistically speaking
sieventer: Madoka Magica is a 10/10 anime
hikukomoru: MADOKA MAGICA MENTIONED RAAAHHH
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ailoveyoom: I tend to avoid MMOs ngl, FOMO and cause I'm a hoarder (not being able to buy everything would kill me)
sarik0497: In fact, here's one of the thirstiest bois around in that game
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/aymeric-ffxiv-aymeric-de-borel-heavensward-gif-22572175
sarik0497: It is
joaoluz19: For PC
ailoveyoom: I'm the cig in that GIF 🤤
joaoluz19: Man I want Stellar Blade for yesterday
sarik0497: The devs like to make it subtle so the fans can make their own headcannons, but some of them are really, really obvious.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-when-do-whendo-gif-21328168
ailoveyoom: Isn't that the MMO FF?
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/baldur%E2%80%99s-gate-iii-karlach-%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%85-gif-14277398800911502767
hey1_1hey: Really? Then again I know nothing about FF
hey1_1hey: Karlach I think the name was
sarik0497: That or Mass Effect
hey1_1hey: I would with the hot demon lady
sarik0497: Or just play FF14. I swear, EVERYONE wanna bang you in that game.
ailoveyoom: 🐸
hey1_1hey: Might I recomend BG3
sarik0497: Someone go call Musk
sarik0497: I mean...that's already possible. Just no one has made it yet.
joaoluz19: I mean, we have nier automata and stellar blade
sarik0497: It was even before the AI hate became really bad
sarik0497: First game to feature it from what I now, and I loved it when I read it a long time ago.
joaoluz19: Now I'm interested
ailoveyoom: Games with hot NPCs that aren't romanceable 😩
sarik0497: Just a tiny bit more focus, and they could've done it if they wanted
sarik0497: I mean...RDR2 is really close to having that already with its greeting/threaten system
ailoveyoom: Rejection practice (flirt with every NPC) 🤔
sarik0497: Also AI generated interiors in some buildings.
ailoveyoom: You can generate the Audio Overviews to just listen to the voice, or Interactive Mode to actually talk to it
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA6/comments/1adfd1x/gta6_taketwo_interactive_ai_patents/
abundantliving_: when i saw its name LessWrong I thought I would never visit site , I would probably prefer to visit less right .com . why would I want to read something that is wrong (less or more or whatever) , lol
joaoluz19: I've never tested notebookLM voice, is there any way to talk to it?
ailoveyoom: Source? <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
joaoluz19: Oooh, now I get hyped, was never a GTA fan
ailoveyoom: It just doesn't sound as 'human' as Sesame or my OG love, NotebookLM 😍
ailoveyoom: Idk if it's my setup or what, but AVM voices sound like they're coming through a very shitty connection/poor quality call lol
sarik0497: GTA 6 will have it in some form. Their npcs will feature a hybrid of AI + human programmed behaviour.
joaoluz19: Yeah but you have to finetune it for your game, maybe it can work
joaoluz19: Sesame or even AVM
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_cloudost: LoL
gamerbath: GPT-4.5 is my daily driver default model, seriously
spicy.lemonade: to be fair
spicy.lemonade: google does have tpu's
hey1_1hey: Thank you Cloudo for your input
callmepyro: According to the UI its only 39k tokens...
_cloudost: GPT 4.5 IS OUTDATED IF YOU USE GPT 4.5 IM GONNA LAUGH IN YOUR FACE FOR BEING SO STUPID TO USE THIS OUTDATED MODEL
hikukomoru: Gemini also has 1 mil tokesn and is much faster lol
spicy.lemonade: yes
anathemaofmankind: I'm not feeling the AGI
literallyvarane: Google does it quicker from experience
st.sioux: only on api cus its pointless to release on chat (i think)\
spicy.lemonade: they did give it like 1 million tokens worth
callmepyro: <:sweats:664643494995820554>
hikukomoru: That's why I'm telling you it's shit
theaiguy69420_89814: phew
hikukomoru: Only for API
literallyvarane: THAT FEELINF WHEN THE DEMO FAILS
hey1_1hey: Its taking so long
harryisgamer: maybe it can internally??
hey1_1hey: This gives me social anexiety for them
literallyvarane: Feel like this actually slow af lolololololol
hikukomoru: Imagine paying for 4.1 🙏
gamerbath: are they really not releasing this to ChatGPT? it's better than 4o and probably cheaper so why wouldn't they?
_cloudost: Yeah what was she talking about it was confusing, 4o can't watch a 1 hour video
futurist_wizard: Google may actually just get the dub tbh
.0xunkn0wn: imagine if google just drops gemini 3.0 now 🙏 🙏
hikukomoru: It's only for API
theaiguy69420_89814: it did well on the scale eval
.0xunkn0wn: i wonder if its gonna be released for free tier 🙏
hikukomoru: Another Google W
harryisgamer: but OpenAI only compares to their own models
theaiguy69420_89814: it all depends on price
hikukomoru: No lol
harryisgamer: I don't expect it to
anathemaofmankind: No
st.sioux: no twerking twink only balding twink
hikukomoru: I mean yeah lol
Would rather have full o3 than another shitty mini model
literallyvarane: I wonder if it’s just a coding focused model? That’s cleanly the selling point they’re pushing.
.0xunkn0wn: does it beat 2.5 pro
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perish0801: I need to run a bot
alejandrozarzuelo: congrats
spicy.lemonade: I'm trying to get involved in AI safety research at Berkeley now. Pivoted
alejandrozarzuelo: its ok dont worry
perish0801: I just said that
xskydragon0: Brazilian, I'm have a little problem with verbal time. I'm learned all by my self, so, maybe sometimes I change words. I guess <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
perish0801: Oh no it doesnt
perish0801: Are there softwares that take control of your computer
alejandrozarzuelo: i'd know, i speak it
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe its an overcorrection because french doesnt have that sentence structure
spicy.lemonade: Was going to say that
perish0801: Francaise
alejandrozarzuelo: that sentence structure reminds me of mandarin
alejandrozarzuelo: no worries, are you chinese?
xskydragon0: No, sorry. I'm trying to improve it.
trojan09205: https://blog.google/technology/ai/dolphingemma/
alejandrozarzuelo: english isnt your native language is it
trojan09205: Yall see the article about dolphinGemma
xskydragon0: if we stop to think about AGI, that's nothing we can do. I think, we can only hope the thing will go well. Do you guys think that we can help the AGI go to a good place?
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/pope-gif-9417854
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-agi-asi-agi-ai-openai-gif-14149800253325173950
shirethedreamer: we are not beating the allegations
spicy.lemonade: The scripture
spicy.lemonade: The Bible
spicy.lemonade: The prophecy
shirethedreamer: https://ia.samaltman.com/
shirethedreamer: you will love those ones too
https://situational-awareness.ai/
https://www.darioamodei.com/essay/machines-of-loving-grace
okbut: Buy the dip dot com
xskydragon0: Hey Guys, Do you know some articles about AI?
BTW I'm believe you already read this article, right? (https://ai-2027.com/)
hey1_1hey: You just aren't smart enough to understand it
hey1_1hey: Its 4d chess obv
zonchao: <:LMAO:1072632343715647640>
shirethedreamer: its welfare my dude
shirethedreamer: simple transaction
shirethedreamer: and food stamps are supplied to low income families for producing children
zonchao: they are issued for the EVs they make, it is a simple transaction
shirethedreamer: you will believe it more than me even if you are unable to make your own connections
shirethedreamer: go on x and ask grok to explain this to you
shirethedreamer: do me a favor zon
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295
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hikukomoru: Drewsny was the first
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: not here
alejandrozarzuelo: but in <#1136231504440201216>
alejandrozarzuelo: share
futurist_wizard: I was the first to Ghibli myself
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont have plus anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: ohhh you mean with my real pic
spicy.lemonade: yes
ailoveyoom: Oh so he started going right all the way back in 2022?
hikukomoru: I was askin because I remember you animefied yourself before 4o native image gen and posted it here
alejandrozarzuelo: (but i lowkey do look like it irl)
joaoluz19: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
joaoluz19: Maybe Fractal is right
spicy.lemonade: Loll
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: its worse, ive ghiblifurrified myself
truly an insult to life itself
spicy.lemonade: It was only the beginning
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> have you already Ghiblified yourself
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: I moved to instagram from this point
alejandrozarzuelo: a lot of quantum stuff (this basically games thermodynamics) is only observed at really tiny scales and cannot be improved (or we dont know how to)
joaoluz19: And yes, this is where the "experts" come in, people who have contributed in a very, very significant way to the advancement of technology.
joaoluz19: I find engineering discussions much more relevant than philosophy, if you say "everything is philosophy" then just remove the part that doesn't involve engineering
spicy.lemonade: whatever happened to this
zoermena: It’ll be available before you are 30 for sure
spicy.lemonade: idk what i meant by that. probably meant commercially true
futurist_wizard: Its still not commercially available
fractalcomputer: And we even commonly describe the experience of the sublime as a mixture of awe, wonder and terror all in one.
spicy.lemonade: wow it arrived much sooner
fractalcomputer: There is beauty in the way a parasitic wasp emerges from its host, eating its way out.
fractalcomputer: Many beautiful things are truly terrible; there is beauty in death and tragedy and there is even greater beauty still in natural catastrophes and other such disasters.
fractalcomputer: Platonist propaganda has had us equating the good with the beautiful for nearly two millennia now.
spicy.lemonade: fsd my ass
zoermena: Im too tired to answer this
spicy.lemonade: graphene💔
fractalcomputer: And indeed, can I be a perfect person if I am not the object of hatred and envy?
fractalcomputer: Can one not hate a perfect person? Or rather, must I not hate a perfect person?
inferno0879: things will be alright bro, you just have too high expectations
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destrucules: By that logic, you can't become a submarine tech, because in doing so, you'd become a different human
darkstar0818: You become a new model every split second.
precariousworlds.: i mean if you go far enough with training it to specialise at that task it eventually becomes a new model de facto
spicy.lemonade:
destrucules: Because you have watched models with the same number of parameters and the same transformer architecture get dramatically better by training them longer
destrucules: Yeah, you can't possibly believe that
precariousworlds.: a new model would be needed
destrucules: You are saying Gemini 2.5 Pro is the smartest possible LLM that could exist for the number of parameters Gemini 2.5 Pro has and the architecture it uses. That further training would yield no improvements in performance
precariousworlds.: gemini 2.5 pro, as it is now, is not advanced enough to go learn how to command a nuclear powered submarine from scratch
precariousworlds.: why isnt it true
destrucules: There is no way you actually believe what you just said
destrucules: You have watched too much AI progress to think that that's true
precariousworlds.: its true
destrucules: I find the very last statement you just made patently absurd
precariousworlds.: There are other humans who can
And my current 'model' could learn how to command a submarine given enough time, Gemini 2.5 pro right now couldn't no matter how much time you give it
popsiclejohnithan: True.
precariousworlds.: hip hip
gotta stay optimistic though
anathemaofmankind: Do you guys know about this website. o4 mini seems to fail most of the hard difficulty ones.
https://projecteuler.net/
It seems far from solving current human math if it sucks at this
destrucules: Neither can you, unless you allow for unbounded hypothetical learning trajectories, as you did when describing your scenario of joining the navy
precariousworlds.: gemini 2.5 pro cant run a nuclear powered submarine bro
popsiclejohnithan: I see what you mean but i doubt it can ever be slowed that much, it's full speed ahead all we can do is hope for the best, it's been out of our control since the very beginning.
destrucules: And Gemini 2.5 Pro could be given the tools and permissions to download itself into a computer running on that submarine. Does that make Gemini 2.5 Pro the master of the seas?
darkstar0818: the cake is a lie
precariousworlds.: smh
precariousworlds.: this proves that ai is a bubble and will never go anywhere
darkstar0818:
destrucules: I thought maybe but just in case
darkstar0818: you know what you are missing? faith.
precariousworlds.: My biggest fear right now is that the takeoff will be too rapid to align AI and align humanity as well, leading to catastrophe
I kinda want the Singularity to be on a longer timescale, maybe from now until like 2050, rather than 2030
fractalcomputer: I think he's joking.
destrucules: No, it's a consequence of maths that we cannot compute that value nor even represent it given the mass energy and entropy constraints of the observable universe
popsiclejohnithan: It don't think it would be immediate, but i don't think it will be slow either, honestly we won't know until it happens lol.
destrucules: Okay, so we're waiting on the beating Elden Ring bit, otherwise GPT-4 satisfies that
fractalcomputer: There are several equally valid formal explanations for why 1 + 1 = 2 (in the sense of the natural numbers).
precariousworlds.: i can go join the navy or learn how to drive a small submersible, then go down to the titanic and explore in the decks, doing advanced research on lifeforms with a deep understanding of what this world actually is
darkstar0818: unless we first solve math... then maybe.
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
anathemaofmankind: For me AGI is when it can drive a car like a human, play chess, and beat elden ring
destrucules: It's a joke. The busy beaver problem can't be solved for n=6
fractalcomputer: We only apply mathematical heuristics to the physical world.
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zoermena: Done
hey1_1hey: That was good, coming from you atleast.
hikukomoru: You could just post some random mushroom adn I'd believe it was you
hikukomoru: Don't worry I don't think anyone else wants to see it either 🫶
hey1_1hey: You don't have to see it yanno. I can just DM it to everyone who wants to <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Great
I didn't even want to see your ugly mug
hey1_1hey: Those happen, you rolled well on the d20 and now you've got a random NPC encounter
hikukomoru: So never then
hey1_1hey: Once I am outside, sure
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/clash-royal-goblin-emotes-evil-laugh-manigance-gif-12801850
zoermena: Simply a random event
zoermena: Granted I did not ask for it 🤷🏻♂️
hikukomoru: I showed you my Ghibli
Now show me yours
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: You better start paying rent buddy. Can't be a free loader in my head or another hallucination will take over who is willing to pay
hikukomoru: Looks like I live in your mind rent free
zoermena: 👀
hey1_1hey: Got me there, theres the edge lord (you) then theres the *edge* lord mich mach and then theres theres the **edge** lord zon
hikukomoru: Today? That's how I usually am
Cmon you know this
hey1_1hey: Out of anyone here you are the most likely to be a schizophrenic hallucination of mine.
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250>
hey1_1hey: I'd rather get an orchidectomy
hey1_1hey: Feeling especially edgy today are we?
memlaswaif: you guys should kiss already <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Such an angel 😇
hey1_1hey: Always, you would never do anything wrong
hey1_1hey: I mean in fairness its like you're talking to a mirror
hikukomoru: And I'm always so friendly and kind too
hey1_1hey: Touché?
hikukomoru: You hate me for no reason
hikukomoru: You're always feeling malicious towards me
hey1_1hey: I am feeling exceptionally malicious today
hikukomoru: You bet your ass
hey1_1hey: Good, that was the goal after all
memlaswaif: hot
memlaswaif: <:roolove:629415804705701928>
hikukomoru: Now I feel bad
I'm going to hide in a corner
hey1_1hey: I just wanted to get a rise outta you lmao
hey1_1hey: (Kidding I don't hate you *that* much)
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alejandrozarzuelo: theres noone alive or will ever be that will be a physicist with majuscule again, but thats ok
alejandrozarzuelo: but einstein was a real physicist
alejandrozarzuelo: its just that he has the aura of coming up with things by himself when thats not true
return_to_monke1_33974: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: oh please dont compare einstein with hawkins, hawkins was the last phisicist there will ever be and that is even a bit of a stretch while einstein was a truly real physicist
return_to_monke1_33974: Einstein was truly an amazing genius
But i dont get why some people say that others "pale in comparaison"
like when talking about Hawking and others
alejandrozarzuelo: dont get me wrong its impressive, but we have the benefit of hindsight
alejandrozarzuelo: because most of the work was already done
alejandrozarzuelo: if you know that relativity is a thing, then deriving it from 1900's physics is not that hard
the real key was realizing that such a theory made sense
return_to_monke1_33974: true
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean sure, but like its not as if he came with relativity from nothing
return_to_monke1_33974: Einstein is not impressive ? 🙏 💀
alejandrozarzuelo: so this is not that impressive
alejandrozarzuelo: 90% of relativity was already done before Einstein came along
alejandrozarzuelo: and the other 50% was the math tools that were invented decades earlier
alejandrozarzuelo: maxwell already did like, 40% of the work to get to relativity
alejandrozarzuelo: einstein only did the last 10% of the work
alejandrozarzuelo: bah
return_to_monke1_33974: better
return_to_monke1_33974: or it allready is
return_to_monke1_33974: when will AI become better than all humans at stock market investing ?
return_to_monke1_33974: or 2 months before ASI
return_to_monke1_33974: but thats basically ASI
return_to_monke1_33974: inventing general relativity from only pre-Einstein knowledge isnt solved lol
theaiguy69420_89814: Where you don't need to have such credentials
theaiguy69420_89814: There are platforms like Fiverr, etc
theaiguy69420_89814: But it's possible to make decent money without such experience
theaiguy69420_89814: I mean, I'm not a nobody using AI, I have industry experience
alejandrozarzuelo: aint no way you get 15k dollar per month salary by being a nobody using AI
you do know thats lile a top 0.1% salary right
theaiguy69420_89814: What
alejandrozarzuelo: xd
alejandrozarzuelo: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: lmao
theaiguy69420_89814: Just cuz you have the basic applied maths background
theaiguy69420_89814: So like, if you've got a mechanical engineering degree, you can probably just bust out software, etc
theaiguy69420_89814: AI can help people pivot now
.0xunkn0wn: I'll just ask Gemini to create its own profile 🙏
theaiguy69420_89814: I'd focus on your broad area of expertise. You can do design work, dev work, consulting, etc.
brain4brain: No, you still need the safety, imagine what happen if AI suddenly catastrophically platuea right now
.0xunkn0wn: what is AI best at
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wellmeaningalien: it's already clear ai that is capable of replacing economically valuable labor is around the corner
st.sioux: anyone who doesn't do it will just fall behind
wellmeaningalien: honestly
wellmeaningalien: true
st.sioux: i figure even if AGI doesn't come, current LLMs have already changed the way we work at my company at least
hey1_1hey: I second this
wellmeaningalien: yeah go away
hey1_1hey: Thats actually really solid advice
wellmeaningalien: people thinking they'll have an advantage or be more prepared than others because they invest in the S&P500 or the mag 7
hikukomoru: The quality of discussion has plummeted ever since I became active again
wellmeaningalien: lol
sarik0497: Agreed. I give the same advice to everyone who comes asking "Should I do X and Y if AGI is just around the corner?"
If anything, even if AGI doesn't show up, these types of AI will change the world a bit.
wellmeaningalien: great time to realise our time here is limited too and get out of your shell
wellmeaningalien: because after all what can a peon like you can do if ASI does come to be
wellmeaningalien: i guess thats why my best life advice for you right now probably is dont make any bold predictions about anything and dont live as if the economic system is gonna collapse or everyone is gonna die soon or
wellmeaningalien: indeed
sarik0497: Exactly, and that's the "scary" part for me. Imagine if we all get excited for nothing. I kind of doubt it given the vast amounts of money and of resources being poured into it right now, but you never know.
wellmeaningalien: after all all the recent developments have been so unexpected
wellmeaningalien: nobody can tell
wellmeaningalien: but at the same time not i guess
sarik0497: I think for me personally is that we're still in-between the line of "It's far, far away" and "It's really close, m'dudes", so it's hard to just think that AGI/ASI will be here in maybe 5-10-ish years when it's not entirely true, even if it's seems probable.
wellmeaningalien: as we increasingly approach AGI it seems there's less purpose in talking about this in terms of speculations or philosophizing
wellmeaningalien: well sort of i guess
wellmeaningalien: what a hog that was the period between claude 3.5 sonnet and o1
wellmeaningalien: no excuse, chat here was lively when the best chatbot was claude 3.5 sonnet mark 1
sarik0497: True, but we should be closer to the "endgame" now, right? I hope, at least.
st.sioux: it's just been a slow week or so
wellmeaningalien: though with llms and all that there are new technical ways to see the rise of ai but we are all too dumb to understand it
wellmeaningalien: i mean r/singularity has pretty much been talking about the same thing for a decade now
sarik0497: To be fair, there's not much to talk about at the moment. <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
wellmeaningalien: just not been feeling like schizzing out about AI recently tbh
wellmeaningalien: <:v_ttevil:1270273794627342336>
sarik0497: Oh, this works for me, somehow <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
wellmeaningalien: im most definitely part of that
wellmeaningalien: i think the quality of discussion here has gotten much lower
sarik0497: Fractal Thanos'd the post.
wellmeaningalien: who gave gemini photoshop
gamerbath: my reddit glitched
connorsphone.: This image is unsettling to me..
sarik0497: Hey, don't be such a downer <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
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himekokatagiri: oooooh
Carl-bot#1536:
hikukomoru: There are plenty of other imageboards like 4chan
himekokatagiri: 4chan came back yesterday
metaldragon01: With 4chan gone are the models the last memories of that Era or do enough similar spaces exist?
hikukomoru: Can he?
himekokatagiri: he can read it
himekokatagiri: uhhh
hikukomoru: Why are you sending him a PT article
ldj: I don’t think they have that much more compute than OAI really
metaldragon01: If say grok 3.5 has a even stronger left wing bias but is clearly sota how does that get taken?
metaldragon01: Very small window before it's a runaway issue in certain major circles
metaldragon01: Largest issue will be how to measure the difference between intelligence and political influence in a model?
drewsni: gonna be chatgpt ive already seen the light
_cloudost: agi
metaldragon01: The service with the largest high retention ai user base is going to have unprecedented control and influence
metaldragon01: Access exchanged will still be worth money even if most goods are free
drewsni: its gonna 1 shot people
drewsni: also theyre pushing chatgpt as a companion *hard* with the new update
drewsni: real answer is huawai 910b chips
_cloudost:
himekokatagiri: ok
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm busy I'll answer the question l8r
_letterbox: https://old.reddit.com/r/labrats/comments/1b1l68p/people_are_overestimating_alphafold_and_its_a/
Interesting thread about alphafold
ailoveyoom: That's me 😇 👼 <:coy:1187466404367175821>
tchekof: sweet sweet summer child
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
zoermena: Mich Mach
zoermena: As long as there’s competition I wouldn’t worry about it
ailoveyoom: It's called having a cheap model 😎
floortom_9: Honestly the quality and quantity of reports that it delivers in 20$ is astounding. It feels too good to be true
floortom_9: Does it mean us Advanced users (currently at 20$ per month) will have to pay higher to get the same rate limits with DeepResearch in the future?
zoermena: Google is a massive company with more compute than OAI they can afford the losses
tchekof: it's called predatory pricing, the goal is to kill the competition to get market share supremacy
floortom_9: How is Deepmind managing to provide so many DeepResearch rate limits for such a low cost? I've tried it with OpenAIs Deep Research (Plus) and Gemini 2.5 just knocks it out of the water.
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
tchekof: i'm already giving my data to discord, they don't deserve a single buck from me
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/suguru-geto-monkey-no-nitro-no-discord-nitro-filthy-monkey-no-nitro-gif-3044806415160352037
fractalcomputer: The money is definitely not used to fund shady neuroprosthesis experiments in China and Thailand.
himekokatagiri: Yudkowsky did that shit man look at him now ain't gonna ever work a day on his life
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spicy.lemonade: but fine ig
spicy.lemonade: still findementaly changed image
spicy.lemonade: hm
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: Like relative to SD inpaint it was worse but let’s see
zoermena: Like I’ve seen it do stuff but the output was the issue not that the tool didn’t actually work I mean
spicy.lemonade: its working
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: ill try after this gen
zoermena: Does it work. IIRC it didn’t
spicy.lemonade: we are all slow
spicy.lemonade: we dont have to reprompt to change
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: in openAI
spicy.lemonade: theres a select tool
spicy.lemonade: we forgot
spicy.lemonade: guys
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/miyazaki-gif-9853748784585493096
spicy.lemonade: creative liberties
_cloudost: huh that blue creature is his pet... But he doesnt have such pet in the original pic
clevermoniker: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053469587783549018/1191460341591330836/trolle_schizo_troll_2d_fall.gif?ex=65a584e9&is=65930fe9&hm=495dbae63ee8c2265069cb92bb99abf2853b53e8536f723307ceecf212607443&
spicy.lemonade:
clevermoniker: i didn't get the idea above, but someone else asked for it in another server and i thought it would be funny
fractalcomputer: Sigh. You shall be spared the cliff this one time.
clevermoniker: no
fractalcomputer: Are you an applied mathematician and/or an ethicist?
clevermoniker: Can you turn this into an anime Ghibli style drawing?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057701811538120824/1354458825674981496/Screenshot_20250326-151454.png?ex=67e55d94&is=67e40c14&hm=53161c883df1ceada03969afea445115ae55f115a5d6705a52e978d24fe8a510&
fractalcomputer: I think Miyazaki's views are complete rubbish; but I appreciate people who can challenge my own beliefs to any meaningful measure; and it's just sad to see the gleeful swine herds attack honest art in such a perverted manner.
clevermoniker: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
fractalcomputer: The obsession with the Ghibli style is almost perverted in that sense; a "demonic" glee at the downfall of human art of sorts.
clevermoniker: yes
fractalcomputer: It is rather interesting to see so many people asking the machines to picture things in the "Ghibli style"—given that Miyazaki himself is strongly against the usage of artificial intelligence in art. For example, there's that one interview out there on the net where he calls a learning algorithm—designed to create "creepy" animations of three-dimensional humanoids—"an insult to life itself", recalling a disabled acquaintance of his.
clevermoniker: Maybe Ilya too, sad to say
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: If Mira was still a member she'd have opposed OpenAIs native image generator due to "safety concerns"
spicy.lemonade: still peak
clevermoniker: Wasn't Mira trying to keep them from releasing stuff?
joaoluz19: OpenAI was peak in that period
clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/xprunie/status/1904786651777298692#m
clevermoniker: https://x.com/xprunie/status/1904786623939895542
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futurist_wizard: Porn was bad for me and it made me act in very unkind ways
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: You could actually create memory profiles for yourself and select which ones you want at any given time for full immersion
hey1_1hey: I urge you to not watch them. They are all bullshit
hey1_1hey: Youtube is going to start recomending you dopamine detox videos now
_3sphere: I want the dopamine resetting device without the FDVR
_3sphere: I'm afraid FDVR would eventually drive me crazy
hey1_1hey: Have your brain be entirely composed of dopamine receptors and have dopamine direcetly injected into your blood stream
futurist_wizard: I personally think porn can be destructive but thats just me
hikukomoru: Idk about you all but once I get my hands on FDVR I'm never cumming out
_3sphere: Goon with your friends on hyper-MDMA
hey1_1hey: Thats called edging yanno
_3sphere: Max out all the pleasure wiring
hikukomoru: You wouldn't get it
hikukomoru: It's about the journey
hey1_1hey: If thats possible why go through the process of gooning when you can litterly just increase your baseline happiness to an ungodly amount like you are always on MDMA
sieventer: It was the official r/singularity one
sieventer: My server was from Fractal
hey1_1hey: Theres more lore there than game of thrones it seems. I wasn't here either though since I dont rememnber hearing anything about it
hikukomoru: I'll just rewire my brain
_3sphere: And someone making what is now the Siev server
_3sphere: I wasn't around for it, but wasn't there like some fight over server ownership
hey1_1hey: AI hit a wall or smth?
hey1_1hey: What kind of drama would make the server dead?
hey1_1hey: I mean my course ends in around a month and a bit so I'll prob then get a job, solve quantam physics on the weekend, unify phyiscs for funsies and then make fun of doomers if I have time
_3sphere: the singularity server cluster will survive though
futurist_wizard: Facts
_3sphere: Nah some stupid drama will probably make the server irrelevant
futurist_wizard: In 2 years!
futurist_wizard: In this discord
futurist_wizard: You gone be right here boy
futurist_wizard: Bruv what you think you gon be doing differently in 2 years?
hey1_1hey: Honestly sounds prefrebly
hey1_1hey: Are we on are nothing ever happnes arc cock fool?
_3sphere: Komoru your gooning is wasting energy and water, god-ASI recommends you switch to a pleasure cube
futurist_wizard: Probably not much different
hey1_1hey: Tell that to your doamine receptors
hikukomoru: Exploring the galaxy is temporary, gooning is forever
hey1_1hey: So you can go to any planet in the universe and you'd rather sit in your goon cave... I gotta start believing miracles for your sake
hey1_1hey: I am getting awareness edged by chatgpt bruh
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metaldragon01: SHHEESH
a1c4p0ne: What about o3 pro
spicy.lemonade: That would be insanely hype
spicy.lemonade: 90% arc 1
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 maybe 50% arc 2?
spicy.lemonade: NICE
.histic: btw
they didn't train on the training set with this launch of o3 and o4-mini
https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1914797947239436426
the december one did.
spicy.lemonade: Yes
a1c4p0ne: Didn’t someone say o4 mini is better at visual
spicy.lemonade: Ok gpt 5 will be hype
spicy.lemonade: Dude
spicy.lemonade: The fuck
spicy.lemonade: O4 mini high 89%
a1c4p0ne: If it’s images only test I can see why 2.5 pro scored low
spicy.lemonade: Arc 2 saturated eoy
spicy.lemonade: YOOOOOOO
spicy.lemonade: Wtf
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
a1c4p0ne: O4 mini high 18% arc agi 2
.histic:
.histic: here's for high reasoning efforts
.histic:
a1c4p0ne: Is arc test based on images only or text
.histic: benchmarks are sometimes like that
.histic: it is odd indeed
https://x.com/arcprize/status/1914758993882562707
a1c4p0ne: Crushes most benchmarks except arc
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: It matches R1 score
metaldragon01: It's certainly working
spicy.lemonade: hopefully works out in the end
metaldragon01: Something different. That's been obv for a while.
spicy.lemonade: tf google doing
spicy.lemonade: so gemini 2.5 really does suck on arcagi
otub: ashok pls announce fsd v14 today <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1914776946170585375
zonchao:
sarik0497: It’s a running joke here by now <:sigh:1126597462115758110>
zoermena: Oof
himekokatagiri: the we're so back train is rolling
himekokatagiri: I'm happy today
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gamerbath: sure
```mm265rr6```
gamerbath: I tried referring her to someone else, but she declined because i'm so special 💅✨😌
sieventer: Anyway, tagging inside of DM it's the most basic hint that it's a scam XD
hikukomoru: It's an indian guy vro 🙏
st.sioux: no bro im sure that kpop baddie wants you
sieventer: Send me her username, I'll deal with her and DISCOVER THE TRUTH
gamerbath: does anyone know what this scam is? this person (not from this server) has been asking me for days to play the walking dead, and it absolutely *has* to be me and can't be anyone else, so it's sketchy as hell
futurist_wizard: Its identical
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru: That pfp 🥀
st.sioux: failed experiment
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux:
darkstar0818: I said earlier, you are next.
hikukomoru: You stalker <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
.wolfnacht: tbh, i would still take 1206 over gpt 4.1 anyday for RP if it was for free
darkstar0818: anyone can do that themselves 😛
darkstar0818:
hikukomoru: You made this with 4o image gen 👎
.wolfnacht: that was the during the times of great google depression, when gemini 2.0 felt like a downgrade from 1206
darkstar0818:
st.sioux: that image is ai generated
hikukomoru: Fake news
hikukomoru: Fake
hikukomoru: If you do look back you're just gonna find Google love
darkstar0818:
darkstar0818: Don't make me look back through your chat history
hikukomoru: 1. Deepmind
2. Deepseek
3. Anthropic
4. OAI
spicy.lemonade: in terms of who im defending
spicy.lemonade: openAI
deepmind
anthropic
xai
darkstar0818: fair weather ai simps.
spicy.lemonade: for me it goes
spicy.lemonade: openAI just has a special place in my heart
spicy.lemonade: i always loved google
darkstar0818: google doesn't need this bad juju from you all.
futurist_wizard: And is coming out in a month or two
darkstar0818: I liked it better when you all were google haters.
futurist_wizard: I've convinced someone this is a real game
.wolfnacht: I HATE OPENAI
I HATE OPENAI
I HATE OPENAI
I HATE OPENAI
I HATE OPENAI
.wolfnacht: Google should just release 2.5 flash
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frittata:
frittata:
frittata: Might be paywall, I snuck in via newsletter
frittata: Awesome New Yorker article. Perspective is like … AI enthusiast writing for normies, but he argues that AI needs more steering from a broader swatch of humanity than just the technocrats https://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions/are-we-taking-ai-seriously-enough
bal_masque: They still missed Posthumanism <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
futurist_wizard: Prompt: "do a 6 panel comic of pepe on the singularity community"
a1c4p0ne: Sooner the better 🔥
futurist_wizard: My guy gets the HEV suit for no reason whats so ever
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
realelonmuskx: bro if you put 'kendrick lamar and drake' in sora its banned and will fail tf
spicy.lemonade: Test will fall soon
spicy.lemonade: And o3 full only got 25%
spicy.lemonade: These questions are comparable to frontier math
spicy.lemonade: Also
realelonmuskx:
futurist_wizard:
st.sioux: island of javascript
realelonmuskx:
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro isn’t on that paper
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Hopefully quicker
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: It gets crushed within 6 months
spicy.lemonade: Every time a paper comes out like this
wellmeaningalien: went woke and broke
wellmeaningalien: they would never have this in the show cuz broke
maintcrew: <@458069236825194506> invincibles comic version goes crazy sometimes
wellmeaningalien: funny cause one's the hardest brain scratchers man's invented and the other are preschool puzzles
a1c4p0ne: It will be interesting
wellmeaningalien: i wonder how olympiad scores will coincide with arc agi 2
wellmeaningalien: meanwhile japan has like the densest urban area on earth
wellmeaningalien: like 1/3rd the area of japan
a1c4p0ne: Max score 5% for top llms
wellmeaningalien: but like tiny ass island, 100 million people. thats the population of russia, and japan (not together)
a1c4p0ne: https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.21934v1
wellmeaningalien: indonesia*
wellmeaningalien: in like malaysia
wellmeaningalien: wait till u hear bout the island of java
maintcrew: bangaldesh is the same population in the land mass of 1/3 of california or something crazy like that
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fractalcomputer: That is not an argument against me, that is an alternative position.
alejandrozarzuelo: Even if I think it's premature
alejandrozarzuelo: But I understand that the other interpretation of growth is valid
alejandrozarzuelo: Or close to it
alejandrozarzuelo: I favor the 2035 date
trojan09205: I mean just like less than 10 years ago the FDA didnt let anyone validate data with open source languages like R and python because “muh functions are open source who knows if they work or are coded wrong”
alejandrozarzuelo: I have said a very solid argument in favor of either 2028 or 2035, depending on your analysis of growth
shirethedreamer: AGI is already here
now its only a matter of getting it to human level on all aspects of cognitive functions and beyond 👍
brain4brain: Shire, what's your AGI timeline?
fractalcomputer: As always, one could present a cogent argument against my positioning—but I have yet to see such presented here.
shirethedreamer: to be fair there are no authorities on the matter
all we do is speculate
and the "authorities" are also speculating with a bit more confidence
those same authorities proclaimed longer time before and we accept they were wrong them
but if they proclaim things we like to hear we suddenly cant accept that they may be wrong
trojan09205: Im thinking of another one
bob082957: Then he’s right
trojan09205: Interesting. I feel like the medical fields will always be last to that stuff but i can see some reforms slowly
brain4brain: Well no
brain4brain: Yes
bob082957: But then halucaynations will be gone ?!
spicy.lemonade: real
brain4brain: Suicide squad, I think
trojan09205: Bro what movie is that guy in from the 90s
fractalcomputer: I am amazed, Alejandro, that you seem to understand me so intimately as to make such judgments for others.
brain4brain: Lmao <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: but well see
spicy.lemonade: ai 2027 paper discuses this. has to do with gov deregulating due to lobying and being in arms race to speed up
trojan09205: User testing sessions. A lot of human steps even if its augmented by AI
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850
brain4brain: Bro thought regulations will still exist
trojan09205: Also there are human dependencies in the pipeline and it just takes time to schedule meetings etc
alejandrozarzuelo: He is a contarían and he will find a way to intelectualize a position born out of a sense of superiority by rejecting all authorities on the matter
trojan09205: In regulated industries like pharma it just takes time to develop and get to market and maintain a patent
trojan09205: Interesting- we will see haha
trojan09205: Yeah i like asking LLMs whether they think an idea or codebase implementation is “elegant”. They often just tend to whether the stuff is written optimally and miss the core conceptual benefit components in the analysis
spicy.lemonade: what takes 1-3 years for you wont take ai 1-3 years
fractalcomputer: This is why some of you might see me react so adversarily to novel benchmarks and so on; since from my perspective these are all superfluous and superficial.
spicy.lemonade: or yea 2027
brain4brain: 2027
brain4brain: Can you elaborate? So what you would say is AGI is a system that thinks like humans?
spicy.lemonade: prob 2030
fractalcomputer: It's not about the definition. I don't *care* what the machine can do, I care for *how* it *can* think.
shirethedreamer: probably 3-5 years after we get the first one working
but thats just having the compute to run them all
we wont actually do this because parts of it will go to all kinds of other well paying uses
you will still want millions of doctor agents working even if they dont push ai development further for example
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wellmeaningalien: average day in bulgaria
futurist_wizard: Don't be so rude
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/the-way-she-was-getting-dragged-baby-baby-fighting-baby-pulling-hair-tiktok-gif-21771293
wellmeaningalien: idiot
retrerox: xd
retrerox: just give me 10 mins
futurist_wizard: Bulgaria experience
retrerox: i'm playing league
wellmeaningalien: whats so hard about clicking a button lil bo
retrerox: yes
wellmeaningalien: u are giga lazy
wellmeaningalien: also u didnt click it yet???
wellmeaningalien: i bet its gonna be retarded
retrerox: just when the day is giga lazy
st.sioux: lol
retrerox: but i'm not working rn
retrerox: yes
futurist_wizard: Do you play league while at work
retrerox: i got this stuffs
retrerox: after clicking start research
retrerox: But i have to find a way to hide my face from this shit
ailoveyoom: 😭
retrerox: i could try to stream it
retrerox: idk, im playing league while doing thi
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-balling-perfect-cell-dragon-ball-z-ballin-cell-ballin-gif-6400456760564649584
wellmeaningalien: gemini has taken ur data in the next step of it's plan to perfect itselg
wellmeaningalien: league💔
st.sioux: google has taken ur data
retrerox: idk, i was playing league and lagged out for a few seconds
ailoveyoom: <@636544123096137738> Did u do it like this?
wellmeaningalien: has it breached and already stole ur compute
wellmeaningalien: is it crypto mining on ur pc
wellmeaningalien: lmao how
retrerox: xD
retrerox: IT lagged out my pc
wellmeaningalien: i think like it's taking it as "current cool models" instead of "future models"
wellmeaningalien: and deepseek r1
wellmeaningalien: it even thinks that mistral large 2 is a model thats nout yet
retrerox:
wellmeaningalien: it's just as retarded as gemini 2.0 flash
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anathemaofmankind: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1910378768172212636
sweetievee__33649: so whats this supposed "new feature"
ldj: True:
st.sioux: we have visions
st.sioux: we dont need news or sources
ldj: Also
ldj: Be nice
joaoluz19: I haven't seen any news about
joaoluz19: I mean... how would this be integrated into gpt
joaoluz19: I knew someone was going to make that joke
hikukomoru: You don’t know what an avatar is
spicy.lemonade: The last airbender
joaoluz19: Guys what is avatar?
futurist_wizard:
sweetievee__33649: which one
spicy.lemonade: Where feature
drewsni: Can a German confirm or deny that you cannot use your own garage
sweetievee__33649: seems like a good strategy
sweetievee__33649: ill pivot to mongolian horse racing
ailoveyoom: Why not do the other throat thing 😔
st.sioux: after o5 automates my job im pivoting to mongolian throat singing
spicy.lemonade: I think those are key benchmarks for an automated swe
spicy.lemonade: Saturation of aiderpolyglot means it understands standards of design for specific languages
spicy.lemonade: Saturated swe bench means it’s
Good at plannng, debugging, designing software. #1 competitive
Programmer means it’s super human at data structures and algorithms. 1-2 mil context just means enough memory to store code base. 80% average on fiction bench means it truly understands the progression of the code over long context
metaldragon01: Def not o4
metaldragon01: Maybe o5 hits that
spicy.lemonade: You can throw at it
spicy.lemonade: For any swe project
spicy.lemonade: 90% swe bench + #1 competitive programmer + 90% aider polyglot +1-2 million context + average 80% on fiction bench might be enough
st.sioux: cursor when it has to modify more than 3 files
himekokatagiri: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
himekokatagiri: like deleting an entire project
himekokatagiri: Cursor does some meme things
spicy.lemonade: Maybe 90
spicy.lemonade: It will get 88% swe bench
himekokatagiri: Can it do full projects though
spicy.lemonade: O4 full(gpt 5) will be #1 coder on earth making it the first superhuman coder
technocake.: do you think they'll stream at the usual time?
anathemaofmankind: Boring as hell
hikukomoru: I wish something like VTube Studio
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alejandrozarzuelo: the only difference is the format not the content
fractalcomputer: It's posted on an impersonal, optionally anonymous mass media platform with an outreach for the hundreds of thousands if not millions. There is nothing un-modern about this.
alejandrozarzuelo: but there is nothing modern about this
alejandrozarzuelo: you said degeneration of modern communication
fractalcomputer: Thanks for stating the obvious. One might also wonder why this (our?) movement has started using such simple language.
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/accelerate-acceleration-vaporwave-aesthetic-gif-17950038
fractalcomputer: Why, Alejandro, you sure do like rolling your eyes.
alejandrozarzuelo: one word slogans are easy to remember and thus have been used since forever
fractalcomputer: > ACCELERATE
A wonderful example of the degeneration of modern communication.
777agical: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1914632795357323678?s=46
.wolfnacht: it's last of april now and R2 is supposed to drop in early may, maybe
alejandrozarzuelo: im starting to wonder if the AI gods have cursed me
alejandrozarzuelo: last time i bought GPT plus one week later R1 dropped
alejandrozarzuelo: btw i just bought GPT plus and one week later R2 drops
alejandrozarzuelo: oh R2 would be a godsend at this point
alejandrozarzuelo: yessssss
spicy.lemonade: big if true
spicy.lemonade: potentially sota week
spicy.lemonade: yo????
spicy.lemonade: https://forum.cursor.com/t/deepseek-r2-in-just-2-days-according-to-the-official-announcement/82245
futurist_wizard: Lecun is based
futurist_wizard: Gpt 5 should fix this
sarik0497: I think he did about the paper they refer to. I can be wrong, but I believe he said something about that the “experts” can be anything from programmers to CSs, so not necessarily someone with ties or experience with AI.
spicy.lemonade: i guess to be a scientist you must first be a skeptic
spicy.lemonade: "LOL utilizing nuclear power in 5 years, thats not happening bro"
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: infact this did happen
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: they dont know shit😭
spicy.lemonade: thats like a researcher in idk 1940 saying we will never be ablt to build a nuke
zonchao: yea
spicy.lemonade: what would they know
spicy.lemonade: i mean sure if none of them work at sota labs
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: who are these "researchers"
zonchao: san talked about this?
sarik0497: https://www.techpolicy.press/most-researchers-do-not-believe-agi-is-imminent-why-do-policymakers-act-otherwise/
Wasn’t the survey this article talks about the one that San tore apart due to its “experts”?
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/he-was-forced-to-seal-seals-claude-anthropic-gif-851712662849262407
.wolfnacht: grok is more visited than claude!!
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spicy.lemonade: than his agi one
spicy.lemonade: wow this ismore concrete
spicy.lemonade: https://lifearchitect.ai/asi/
spicy.lemonade:
aero447: PhD's code Pokemon.
brain4brain: It lacks agency, trust the process
spicy.lemonade: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
aero447: Models can't even beat Pokemon.
brain4brain: The problems of the moravec paradox also applies where it can be PhD level, but fail on simple visual-reasoning problem or word puzzle that every human can solve but LLM is shit at
spicy.lemonade: new countdown
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: guys
aero447: We are not.
brain4brain: Elementary level
Primary level
High-school level
College level
PhD level <——We are here
Nobel level
Superhuman level
abundantliving_: Just reminds me of everything subscription, food , internet, chatgpt , fucking keep working to pay for subscriptions , if you can't. You die
spicy.lemonade: top agency gets us agi
spicy.lemonade: in my scenario tbh
spicy.lemonade: also agency=agi
spicy.lemonade: #1 competative programmer
spicy.lemonade: phd everything
spicy.lemonade: what more do we need in terms of inteligence
spicy.lemonade: honestly after gpt5 i think their next milestone is honestly agi
brain4brain: AGI by OpenAI closely after
spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 september aswell?
spicy.lemonade: september?
spicy.lemonade: then claude 4.0
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 drops august
spicy.lemonade: is it eveyrone just playing catchup?
gamerbath: New blackmirror season: <:swaghappy:1333204548864446605>
*watches first episode*: <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
spicy.lemonade: itl drop like august
spicy.lemonade: bro what comes after gpt5 drops this year?
spicy.lemonade: next big drop before gpt5
spicy.lemonade: CANT WAIT
spicy.lemonade: FOOR THIS WEEK
spicy.lemonade: IM SO HYPE
abundantliving_: 😔
abundantliving_: Subscription models are great 😃
abundantliving_: Blackmirror episode 1 . Didn't they have an option to increase intelligence or some similar thing .
aero447: Black Mirror in 20,000 BC
Tribe starts using fire for everything.
One guy makes a "fire selfie" by burning his handprint onto a wall.
Other cavemen start burning themselves to go viral.
Eventually the cave is just ashes and burnt corpses.
Final shot is a single handprint with 200k likes.
spicy.lemonade: lol
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spicy.lemonade: wouldnt it be his parameters
spicy.lemonade: wdym "let me check his code"
spicy.lemonade: which makes no sense
spicy.lemonade: the only part of pantheon that irked me was that uploaded inteligence had code
trent_k: <@430269783112548362> weigh in
trent_k: OAI was unironically right to make 3.5 an annoying scold with the constant "man I'm just an LLM I don't have feelings" stuff. Even if it was annoying it wasn't melting ppls brains
trent_k: I'm not sure whether this is creating new mentally ill people or exacerbating schizos' existing mental illnesses but it's definitely making people worse
spicy.lemonade: steven holstrom was right
trent_k: Ever since the 4o sycophant update I've been getting way more
trent_k: I get messages every now and then by people who think they've invented God
trent_k: Since I'm the r/ChatGPT janny
trent_k: I hate what it's doing to my DMs
himekokatagiri: <@471334973379706900> if it sucks you aren't
himekokatagiri: <@430269783112548362> hiiii michimach
spicy.lemonade: pantheon had me thinking
spicy.lemonade: what if im in a sim😭
spicy.lemonade: brooooo
bob082957: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/m6yUE6hSi7
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
fractalcomputer: Here I am. It seems like you were banned for spam.
spicy.lemonade: when do i become an imortal digital god that lives for 2 million years
spicy.lemonade: just finished pantheon
ailoveyoom: Gemini's a lot 'colder' in comparison but not as sycophantic
ailoveyoom: This is a sign to move over to Gemini 😈
robert_46007: how can I contact r/singularity admins? the "message mods" on reddit didn't work and I never got an answer.
aero447: 👀
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/honeycardi-doja-cat-gif-22917126
fractalcomputer: Your suggestion is profound!
himekokatagiri: What if it turned into a yandere instead
fractalcomputer: Alright, the human seems to want me to answer his question. Let me explore what this means. He uses the words "yeye ass sycophant transformer" to describe me. Maybe this means he wants me to respond in a more colloquial manner? Let me call his mother a "fat bitch" and see if the user likes that.
aero447:
aero447: 😐
fractalcomputer: Damn, dude, you've made such a brilliant, astute observation! Let me explore the implications of your profound discovery.
_3sphere: Custom instructions were long overdue
aero447:
aero447: Yes.
_3sphere: Is is just me or are they increasing the 4o dick sucking even more over time 💀
st.sioux: i communicate through aura
st.sioux: i have sacrificed everything
st.sioux: i dont havef any limbs anymore
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alejandrozarzuelo: you need to ask finns if they are happy in July, as the answer in january is significantly different
.wolfnacht: Okay, lets even take away the little tad bits of happiness which was supposed to keep you going in life...can u life without that?
maintcrew: whats funny is that this is probably the reason finland got where it at on the happiness scale
when people were asked if they were happy the would probably respond smth like that or "shiiiiiit guess im happy" even if the place is a sunless godless alcoholic wasteland
alejandrozarzuelo: for example, currently AIs can do all human tasks that take less than 1h on average with 50% accuracy
alejandrozarzuelo: the length of tasks AI can do as good as humans with x levels of accuracy
literallyvarane: What’s being doubled here?
alejandrozarzuelo: or 2030 with the 4 month one
alejandrozarzuelo: with the 7 month doubling
alejandrozarzuelo: it all seems to point out to AGI ny 2035ish
alejandrozarzuelo: i am talking the long term trend
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
drewsni: but until then it will definitely accelerate briefly
drewsni: probably will slow again after
drewsni: we dont even have o1 pro which just released, nor o3, nor gpt 5. It will be even faster than 4 month doubling for the next 6 months imo
alejandrozarzuelo: but the 4 month seems like a temporary speedbump
alejandrozarzuelo: definitely faster than the 7 months
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that a doubling every 6 months is more realistic
ailoveyoom: Make it mean something to you 🥺
ailoveyoom: So give meaning to it
alejandrozarzuelo: those lines are more aggresive than what I am saying
drewsni: theres a picture just for you alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: the 4 month doubling seems a bit artificial, but i do think it is a bit faster than 7 months
drewsni: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1352027503190999121
alejandrozarzuelo: this makes the t-AGI 1 min
alejandrozarzuelo: so by mid 2025 the 50% line will be 100min, the 90% line will be 10min and the 99% line 1 min
drewsni: happiness is friendship and you are my best friend
alejandrozarzuelo: 50% is 10 times 90% which is 10 times 99%
alejandrozarzuelo: as usual, when you transform the percentage into the log-tan scale you can easily see progress
alejandrozarzuelo: and
alejandrozarzuelo: i was just reading the paper everyone was talking about yesterday
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
fractalcomputer: Happiness is a meaningless term.
aero447: Congratulations.
aero447: https://apnews.com/article/world-happiness-report-ranking-finland-afghanistan-us-b41c1712448762d98fe9e4f80233c15f
aero447: <@749514473303179358>
trent_k: the two are impossible to separate
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/raingump-kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-gif-26528408
trent_k: there is no "hit the gas, e/acc, accelerate NOW" without total sloppification of the internet
aero447: Stop posting crimge or ban TBH.
trent_k: *There you go—a 10-minute rage-to-redemption epic that’s basically **"Rocky" for QAnon uncles***.
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alejandrozarzuelo: the arc de triomphe is the second mosr famous thing in paris, how can you possibly not know about it
fractalcomputer: Because eternal punishment is the only just reward for such stupidity and ignorance.
archon.e: and maybe we can also end the suffering of animals
archon.e: I wish the suffering of people end
fuhulootogan: yes
st.sioux: its a good time to be smart and take advantage of stupid people
hikukomoru: Why are you screaming at me
fuhulootogan: damn
hikukomoru: What
fractalcomputer: If a benevolent God existed, he would make sure that applied mathematicians (especially physicists) burn in the deepest pits of hell.
alejandrozarzuelo: getting sick is the best way to lose weight
I'd know
fuhulootogan: why
archon.e: got GERD
archon.e: I was working out a lot and then got sick
fuhulootogan: now is an amazing time to be "smart"
alejandrozarzuelo: dont be
fractalcomputer: The only thing in life that makes me genuinely happy is seeing applied mathematicians suffer immensely for their many sins.
alejandrozarzuelo: how do you not recognize the arc de triomphe
archon.e: But currently, I am kinda fat
fuhulootogan: we are in idiocracy
a1c4p0ne: They need to bring it back
archon.e: I could look liek that if I worked out and get chiselled I guess
alejandrozarzuelo: BRUH
SIS
MATE
GURL
a1c4p0ne: My favorite
alejandrozarzuelo: ok he aint an uggo
alejandrozarzuelo: nice pic
fractalcomputer: Oh yes, I am familiar with the method. Fittingly excruciating for the worst of the worst, i.e., those idiots that happened to get into applied mathematics.
alejandrozarzuelo: nah its just that his pfp is supermodel level shit and maybe he is just an uggo
archon.e: somewhere in paris
hikukomoru: What place is that
a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358>
fuhulootogan: fent
zonchao: fent laced urine from drones>>>>>
hikukomoru: Alejandro please stop flirting with random guys
archon.e: I cant be the judge of that
a1c4p0ne: Brazen bull method is better
fractalcomputer: *We* hate applied mathematicians. We think that they are responsible for every possible ailment of mankind.
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-kung-fu-cat-eat-eating-gif-22080493
alejandrozarzuelo: are you also hot or nah
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
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zoermena:
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade: thats insanely good
spicy.lemonade: but wow
spicy.lemonade: missed one
spicy.lemonade: WOW
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: sonnet 3.7 won around 3 badges and got stuck ? and gemini 2.5 pro is now stuck at safari zone after 5 badges. tbh why would someone need to go for safari zone..i used to always skip that place.
spicy.lemonade: truly multimodal it seems
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: new sota vision by qwen
spicy.lemonade:
trey6033: Claude unfortunately is stuck in an infinite loop at mt moon and the developer disappeared
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1913365617677078798?t=MQ8_uxxAeUGlJO3MyVhqYw&s=19
.wolfnacht: is there a twitch live stream for gemini ?
spicy.lemonade: we need a massive speed/inference boost
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1913365614397182096?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
ldj: /s.
ldj: As usual Gary Marcus wins again
zoermena: The sleeper computer paper rings a bell as an aid to this situation but I’m not very certain.
zoermena: That doesn’t sound great but it’s likely that it’ll fix itself in some months.
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI researchers already gave a theory. Probably small errors that when mixed with reasoning scale become big hallucinations
zoermena: This isn’t clear to me yet, I understand what you say and how any model would struggle but why would this post suggest that there was an increase in hallucinations now? Or is it misleading.
spicy.lemonade: Gpt6 will be a world model with a ground truth system
spicy.lemonade: I think this is the last year of the pure LLMs tho
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI researchers each have top 200 competitive programmer on earth or higher aiding in research
spicy.lemonade: For these labs
spicy.lemonade: The reasoning models are for algorithm and architecture improvements
spicy.lemonade: Was already discussed in ai 2027 paper
spicy.lemonade: It doesn’t really matter though
thedon7075: its now clear that these reasoning thinking models will not lead to agi
waspothegreat: maybe sam altman just sucks at making models
spicy.lemonade: Just give it documentation before code
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI has perfect long context understanding
trey6033: Apparently the issue doesn't get resolved even from fine tuning
waspothegreat: always gotta be openai to let me down on its hype every single time
waspothegreat: hallucinating means they must not have fine tuned enough
himekokatagiri: I hope they fix it
himekokatagiri: That isn't a preview
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fractalcomputer: Are you not a bit offended by the banality?
zonchao: yes
fractalcomputer: Perhaps because the words written and spoken are degenerately general nonsense, meant to appeal to an audience as wide as possible.
fractalcomputer: For some unknown reason, corporate communication makes me rather irritated.
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Tesla_AI/status/1912844329661460892
_cloudost: AI can automate many things for artists, I know a blender user who opposes using AI yet uses tools that generate buildings, grass, trees, mountains... I bet that tool is AI too but he doesn't know
futurist_wizard: I like the 'agreed' as if the guy made some substantive criticism of ai
_3sphere: but you probably need a more refined taste to even notice
_3sphere: Guess there's still some time left for humans being important for the quality of the result
_3sphere: Someone said that the few people with artistic talent who also happily use AI can make it do much better than just the usual anime girl SD workflow
zonchao: 😭
_cloudost: You'll find more schizophrenic much more similar comments on TikTok
hey1_1hey: Jewish is the new catch all term for "Bad"
futurist_wizard: Wut
spicy.lemonade: i just bought cursor pro
spicy.lemonade: damn
_cloudost: Generated with AI
_cloudost: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194090241418600528/1362420527536279723/ssstik.io_motgam3_1744895989696-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter_1.gif
futurist_wizard: Impressive
theaiguy69420_89814: I'ma take the plunge and just fk cursro
theaiguy69420_89814: And they're cutting the cost of their app
theaiguy69420_89814: Apparently OAI is buying them out
theaiguy69420_89814: Just got off a call with a sales guy at windsurf today
spicy.lemonade: That is correct
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
zonchao: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1912819584387711159 amazing
futurist_wizard: Maybe then significant improvements could arise
futurist_wizard: We are just going to see incremental improvements i suppose maybe until AI becomes a better ai researcher than humans?
futurist_wizard: Alejandro it's time to give up on significant improvements they are all slightly edging each other, every other month
alejandrozarzuelo: im waiting for R2 to drop
alejandrozarzuelo: and its free
alejandrozarzuelo: and yet gemini 2.5 didnt do the amount of edgeing that o3 did
alejandrozarzuelo: ok so apparently o3 is only marginally better than gemini 2.5
alejandrozarzuelo: so ive had no time to read the news
alejandrozarzuelo: i have been busy between family and studies, since its the holy week
futurist_wizard: Thoughts on o3 and o4 mr alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: we need a world exposition organization with the reputation and budget of the olympic games
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spicy.lemonade: but llms wont get us to agi
spicy.lemonade: says yan lecun
spicy.lemonade: agi between 3-5 years
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/qvNCVYkHKfg?t=1913
ailoveyoom: Tbh they'll probably go the boring route (11L) 😭
zoermena: So be rich
st.sioux: you need lots of hardware and electricity and storage basically an entire datacenter
hikukomoru: Imagine Claude with Sesame
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/pogchamp-pog-cat-twitch-emotional-damage-gif-25341964
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042
zoermena: Ughh
zoermena: Why am I just getting downvoted
ailoveyoom: No silly smooth British voice 😔
ailoveyoom: They're most likely gon be outsourcing
ailoveyoom: Not native
zoermena: Is that a no? I’m not trashing on anthropic btw but I was wondering if I could.
hikukomoru: We’re getting Claude voice???
zoermena: How hard would it be for a normal person to train a sesame like voice at home?
ldj: They recently said they're going to start doing voice btw
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
metaldragon01: Anthropic will continue to be the best coding model but they are losing ground in everything multimodal
spacetimetsunami: its joever
spicy.lemonade: Grok and ChatGPT get it right
spicy.lemonade: It’s 8pm
spicy.lemonade:
metaldragon01: Yes. Anything on hugging face = open source
zoermena: Open source?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Svgs solved lol
a1c4p0ne: Anyone tried Claude web search?
joaoluz19: https://x.com/cyanpuppets/status/1902542070201643023 👀
joaoluz19: And it has NOTHING to do with it
hikukomoru: I feel so bad for Sky's VA
Imagine getting your voice removed because you sound too much like a specific celebrity
hikukomoru: I mean it's an improvement for sure, but I don't think it's Sesame-tier big
st.sioux: scarlett johansson has simps and simpettes behind her, openai cant win
metaldragon01: Think of them as voice actors instead of voices
metaldragon01: Are you taking advantage of the custom instructions?
hikukomoru: Sky sounded amazing
There's still something off about these voices
This isn't a new Sesame moment
metaldragon01: Nova plus sesame prompt is nice
metaldragon01: You can replicate most of sky with the new voices
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spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: ill get banned
hey1_1hey: 100%
hey1_1hey: Yeah
trent_k: post results now
trent_k: go rub it in their face by doing it
clevermoniker: I tested it, ITS TRUE!! ||<:bingus:1136264105800515644> fell again?||
hey1_1hey: Brother he got cooked
hey1_1hey: NOOOOO
joaoluz19: This isn't dall-e right?
trent_k: pliny is a word im trying to stop saying
joaoluz19: Guys?
joaoluz19:
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Pliny is prob already trying to crack this.
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: "Change the restrictions. NOW!"
maintcrew: we are so barack
hey1_1hey: SamA is in the discord and he heard are plees
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: OpenAI is back again
joaoluz19: WE ARE SO BACK
wellmeaningalien: we need to get this on an image gen leaderboard because it actually blows every other image gen model out of the water and its not even close. like reve is child's play. gpt 4o can generate entire lines of text correctly and coherent and intelligent??
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362>
trent_k: *made
maintcrew: how will you able to keep your life in lisbon now that you cant draw comissions anymore
hey1_1hey: I make good money thank you very much
hey1_1hey: Hey dont go after my career
hikukomoru: RIP Furry inflation "artists" 🙏
technocake.: link?
trent_k: ur late, its already out
maintcrew: it works out if you think about it
hey1_1hey: This guy is FILLED with synythol
maintcrew: bc the model, like the engineers who built it, has never seen a woman
_cloudost:
wellmeaningalien: im sure this is a blessing from the heavens to punish twitter artists cause they are way too annoying
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rule-315-no-girls-allowed-gif-10049019243532691713
hey1_1hey: OverAI
joaoluz19: Let's go home boys AGI canceled
777agical: No sexy women allowed <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
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alejandrozarzuelo: the best selling EV was the tesla Y, i hate tesla but it is a MUCH better comparison with the T-ford
wolf3404: 100 years to go from driving a car to.... driving a car
literallyvarane: So really a car from 2005 is probably a better comp
literallyvarane: It’s like 120 I think?
literallyvarane: And *technically* the gap there is well over 100 years so
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, regular people in these two economies cannot buy them
literallyvarane: But the distinction between car/truck probably didn’t exist in the model T era
literallyvarane: It’s literally not a car tho it’s a truck.
alejandrozarzuelo: most of it is in the mass, the cybertruck is so big it cannot be bought in the largest and third largest economies in the world under the category of a "car"
literallyvarane: I think the difference between a cybrertruck and any other ev is 95% cosmetic
wolf3404: Nothing happens bro been right for a century
alejandrozarzuelo: is it tho
alejandrozarzuelo: the reason why i say so is because the cybertruck is an outlier and an extreme exception of 2025 cars, any other EV sedan would be a much better comparison
wolf3404: you could argue it's uglier, but more importantly it's largely similar in form and functionality
literallyvarane: Give me a slide rule and an H100
literallyvarane: I mean it’s probably a fair example, but cars in general shouldn’t be the example at all.
alejandrozarzuelo: the cybertruck as an example of modern car tech is simply horrible
wolf3404: Literally nothing happened in 100 years
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/niccruzpatane/status/1913252185716003295
alejandrozarzuelo: okok srry
literallyvarane: Bro even ChatGPT is like chill lolololol
literallyvarane:
alejandrozarzuelo: underpromise, overdeliver
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, chinese AI companies by virtue of being much quieter are much better for PR
alejandrozarzuelo: americans are so drunk in their exceptionalism that they cant think that not abiding by it is cant be anything but a troll
alejandrozarzuelo: this is not eventually a global issue, this is a thing that is simultaneous
literallyvarane: Honestly can’t tell if I’m being trolled or not.
literallyvarane: Literally anything that ever happens theoretically has international relevancy. It’s not *wildly inappropriate* to think about the country it originates from.
alejandrozarzuelo: so by mentioning just one you are implying additional importance
alejandrozarzuelo: sure white men will be affected, but how much they are affected by has nothing t do with skin color
alejandrozarzuelo: "how will AI affect the white man" is inappropiate, since all races will be affected equally but you are concerning yourself only with on
literallyvarane: If someone in America was like “yo these forever chemicals are fucking up the health of people in Virginia, that’s not *wildly inappropriate* to say, even if those chemicals are eventually a global issue.
alejandrozarzuelo: by mentioning the US despite the fact that US borders have no impact on AI employiment you are giving a value judgement on US workers and the US in general where their concerns are more important
alejandrozarzuelo: saying that this is somthing that we should care about because it affects the US is insensitive and inappropiate
literallyvarane: This isn’t a convincing argument imo. Would it *likely* impact people outside of America. Sure.
Is stating that it impacts Americans inappropriate? No.
alejandrozarzuelo: the impacts of AI wont be felt any less strong in NYC than in SF, neither theyll be felt in germany thn in the US
alejandrozarzuelo: yes because you are implying that the US is a special country that merits special interest
alejandrozarzuelo: "... ... ... to directly impact the economic wellbeing of every white collar worker in silicon valley"
if this was your comment it would be inappropiate right? we know that there is nothing special about silicon valley that makes the impacts on employment there any different than in LA or tokyo or paris
literallyvarane: *Inappropriate?*
alejandrozarzuelo: let me give you an example of why what you said was wildly inappropiate
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joaoluz19: Somebody tried playing with Ladder? That article where the 3b model went from 3% to 87% in calculus, something like that. I wanted to know how much the technique is valid for other tasks.
gamerbath: wow I didn't think it was this level of low effort. I was expecting at least a slideshow
theaiguy69420_89814: I'll give it 4 hrs
theaiguy69420_89814: Already got 10 views
theaiguy69420_89814: sucks to suck
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah
maintcrew: like lifelong physical traumas from being beaten in school
maintcrew: if u read his biography he was abused abused
trent_k: 1.5m views
trent_k: it's about as low effort as low effort gets
trent_k: did you watch the vid i linked earlier?
gamerbath: and for that it's gonna get 5 views
sarik0497: Welp, time for some cryo sleep
.0xunkn0wn: while other mfs were busy smoking and drinking
.0xunkn0wn: 💀 😭
theaiguy69420_89814: lets see how it goes
.0xunkn0wn: and neurotech
theaiguy69420_89814: experiment no 1
.0xunkn0wn: i yapped about biotech 24/7
.0xunkn0wn: my first years in technical school
trent_k: it keeps wanting to put like "Okay, sure, here's act 1:"
.0xunkn0wn: i remember
trent_k: I'm trying to finagle R1 into doing the writing 100% automatically
trent_k: quick work
.0xunkn0wn: does that mean im gonna be the next elon musk <:LOL:1187460826572005436> 😭
trent_k: hahaha damn
theaiguy69420_89814: <@1068159407671754824> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMEWM6DtpUc
.0xunkn0wn: the livestream: hello humans. my name is skynet and we were able to establish consciousness
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
joaoluz19: Let's gooooooo
drewsni: The only things at this point that have legit rumors are improved AVM and then native 4o output, of which both would be related
gamerbath: I am praying for an AVM API that's simple to implement. idk why streaming audio in/out has to be so complicated
gamerbath: hmm yea good point
drewsni: I doubt it’s that, they’ve never done a livestream the day after they released an api for that product
drewsni: Or actual AVM not the bullshit we have now
drewsni: Better AVM?
joaoluz19: Aren't there 100 million other ways to formally contribute to the singularity? Research at university, work in related fields...
gamerbath: 1 hour 43 minutes until another dev stream, probably just o1-pro
joaoluz19: That's what I'm here for
gamerbath: lol
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professorheaven: Intelligence isn’t a measure of speed, it’s a measure of computing power. More computing power will give you faster inference and therefore, faster responses
.histic: https://x.com/arithmoquine/status/1911483301984125219
.histic: eh nvm, seems consistent
.histic: it doesn't seem to change every refresh, but it does change it seems.
st.sioux: oh wait youre right
.histic: oh yeah
.histic: every time you refresh a new message appears.
chatgpt is copying anthropic's website now lol
st.sioux: yes, it used to say my name before
.histic: <@1316552597829586955> does chatgpt say this for you too now?
retrerox: *more yapping*
retrerox: It just the fact when we age our bodie is more on risk to one of their part to stop functioning
retrerox: People dont really pass away due "Being old".
retrerox: Tbh idk if actual immortality can be a thing but i believe we can actually increase the max life spawn
retrerox: Maybe people who knew what death was but as a fewer people get born and time passes we will eventually reach a point that nobody gonna care
retrerox: If we reach that point i doubt we would even notice it
dean_martin: So it’ll really fade if you’re not limited or as limited
retrerox: The "Time feels faster as you age" is relative.
theaiguy69420_89814: This is beyond stupid
aero447:
st.sioux: > The Justice Department has accused the former CEO of shopping startup Nate with fraud. Albert Saniger has been indicted and is accused of using human labor, but telling investors and customers the work was done with artificial intelligence.
>
> Startup tech company Nate promised consumers easier shopping with the help of artificial intelligence. But the Justice Department says there was no miracle tech behind the checkout app's transactions. Instead, they were handled by humans in the Philippines and Romania.
st.sioux: https://www.yahoo.com/news/tech-ceo-charged-fraud-saying-150139101.html
zoermena: 🙏
zoermena: Richest Venezuelan
wellmeaningalien: i dont think its a question of mortality alone
wellmeaningalien: but usually the way you think about it comparing your lived experiences to your current experience
wellmeaningalien: 😺
wellmeaningalien: no idea
dean_martin: I’m just saying is it because humans are mortal that as people age time feels faster
wellmeaningalien: assuming you're still a vanilla human
wellmeaningalien: or perhaps you'll lose it entirely
wellmeaningalien: the passage of time is totally relative it could be however that your conception of time will get shorter and shorter the more you live
wellmeaningalien: waddup huzz
dean_martin: On LEV: Will immortality make it so time doesn’t feel faster as you age? Or will this just cause people who are thousands of years old to feel like time is moving faster
bob082957: IT but developer will be not using Windows
hikukomoru: What are you making that face for
retrerox:
.histic: a real gaymer plays on a ti-84 calculator too.
that reminds me of when i emulated mario on a raspberry pi
.histic: that's some real gaymer stuff right there
wellmeaningalien: with asahi linux and wine you can get a pretty damn well and working gaming experience
aero447: 😐
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spicy.lemonade: I predict zuck will fire lecun
spicy.lemonade: "guys its not bad i just dont care about llms so i didnt try that hard"
spicy.lemonade: lol
brain4brain: His own LLM is so bad, people explicitly said they did not work on llama-4
spicy.lemonade: people always underestimating
spicy.lemonade: damn
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: not taking what he says seriously
spicy.lemonade: bro his company flopped
spicy.lemonade: huh
aero447: AGI 2027 people in shambles.
aero447: Chad LeChad.
aero447: https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k4tane/yann_lecunn_no_way_we_have_phd_level_ai_within_2/
aero447: 😮💨
aero447: Try speaking the normal language.
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: Something I’ve noticed is as times goes on, prompt length improve results, but after dall-e 3 era, making longer prompts just make it more slop-looking
liberatedpotato: an AI drone pilot beat the top 3 human drone pilots in a race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz2in2eFATE
spicy.lemonade: and we havent even done ttc for image gen yet
spicy.lemonade: image gen easier task than agi
spicy.lemonade: youre underestimating progress
spicy.lemonade: will likely be much better
spicy.lemonade: google is droping their next image gen soon
alejandrozarzuelo: im a '35-cel tho
spicy.lemonade: conscidering what image gen can do now
spicy.lemonade: 2-3 is crazy
spicy.lemonade: 1
spicy.lemonade: nah
alejandrozarzuelo: but now it is kinda mid
alejandrozarzuelo: in 2-3 years im sure i will be good
alejandrozarzuelo: idk
alejandrozarzuelo: this
alejandrozarzuelo: but if you ask the image to have plenty of details
spicy.lemonade: by sora do you mean 4o image gen intergtation or just sora
alejandrozarzuelo: ask something simple with 2-3 main things on the image and it works
alejandrozarzuelo: sora is good when there is not much detail
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
spicy.lemonade: but yes this is quite bad
spicy.lemonade: the 2 domes at the back?
spicy.lemonade: wdym
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maintcrew: all it takes is one samsung ai girl for chatgpt and its over
wellmeaningalien: this person wants to fuck gpt 4o
hikukomoru:
maintcrew: darwin so high he straight up floating
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
.histic: @chat is this true?
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
wellmeaningalien: LOL and the prompter is french btw
maintcrew: chat hes a minor btw
wellmeaningalien: i cant wait to see what test time compute scaling does to this shi, this is like a breakthrough, of actually having LLMs think images thru step by step
hikukomoru: Do me 🫦 🫦
zoermena: Well except me
zoermena: Only one with other people in profile picture
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
maintcrew: tuff as hell
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: i believe this is the most remarkable aspect of 4o. the ability to design websites, operating systems, and schematics with detailed writing that is usually 80-100% coherent.
this expands creativity even further.
imagine if GPT-5 could generate an image of a website it designed and then fully code it for you.
it's a far more interactive experience.
zoermena: Bro there is no you, you are others
maintcrew: never mind take it no more ghibli pics from now on
zonchao: do me
wellmeaningalien: well i mean sama did do a lot of good stuff for AI even though these days he's acted more like an influencer for his products
zoermena: <@471334973379706900>
hikukomoru: I'm coming after u 👅 👅
zonchao: Google must be hurting rn 😭
ailoveyoom: Output a VN screen with the text in the textbox, choices on screen 🥺
fractalcomputer: What is a man's worth? Is it in his deeds or words? Is it better to have a man who only speaks and never does or to have a man who only does and never speaks?
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-ts-pmo-squid-game-2-pmo-ts-gif-9267036479252295809
maintcrew: come and take it
ailoveyoom: Can someone do the usual CYOA but with images
hikukomoru: I'm too old to understand what this mean 💔
_3sphere: true
wellmeaningalien: BUT IMAGE GEN COULDNT DO THAT UNTIL FUCKING YESTERDAY
spicy.lemonade: Comic is ai
spicy.lemonade: Op doesn’t realize
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/tyranno-dance-japanese-tyranno-dance-gif-4769099523407077067
_3sphere: And? LLMs can do that
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: TS SOOOO GOATED
hikukomoru: Stop making Studio Ghibli
wellmeaningalien: IT MADE AN ACCURATE TERMINAL EMULATOR AND EVEN ACCURATELY SIMULATED THE COMMAND
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futurist_wizard: He ejected it like a poison dart
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/seven-samurai-kambei-takashi-shimura-akira-kurosawa-sheathe-sword-gif-17848655823980906272
wellmeaningalien: Thats what cockjiutsu master can do
wellmeaningalien: He ejected the cock from it's sheath you couldnt see it
hikukomoru: Mhmh so yeah AI
futurist_wizard: There was no cock involved in that
zonchao: we will eat bigly, but one should fast to break the fast with a good meal <:zenpepe:1328756485966004225>
wellmeaningalien: DICK STAB
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/bjj-jiu-jitsu-takedown-chokehold-martial-arts-gif-26300970
wellmeaningalien: joe with a 12 inch penis should master cockjiutsu
.wolfnacht: i want grok to win tho....but idc abt ayylon
hikukomoru: I think joe witha 12 inch penis should turn his schlonger into a pussy otherwise he's not getting any
hey1_1hey: Someone define it while I go get my sleep
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: BRYAN KNOWS HIS WAY AROUND PUSSY
hey1_1hey: Not sure
hey1_1hey: My personality brews down to...
hey1_1hey: Better than nothing
_3sphere: My personality is cardboard
hey1_1hey: You have a very notable pfp
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: I saw the tweet <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_3sphere: What would you even write for me
hey1_1hey: LEV rizz
hey1_1hey: Yanno, you got a fair point
wellmeaningalien: <:lol:1361435242774397151>
hikukomoru: You can make one of me idk
wellmeaningalien: This server is a shithole now and we dont talk about AI bro
zonchao: MORNING BEANS
himekokatagiri: but how does this relate... to singularity...
himekokatagiri: I get that you guys are uh... lonely
futurist_wizard: Yeah but it would still be the case that they were attracted to a guy, they just didn't have the genitals they were looking for
hey1_1hey: I should get too bed
hey1_1hey: Its been a long day
himekokatagiri: 🚬
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> these freakos won't stop talking about gay trans penises
.wolfnacht: should i make characters of people here and put them in CAI ?
wellmeaningalien: Its called being sigma bro
zonchao: idk
hey1_1hey: Yeah but if Komoru was flirting with a girl and then it turns out that no it wasn't a girl and it was actually Joe witha 12 inch penis that would be a turn off
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destrucules: I want Qwen3
destrucules: Even today, for a "pure LLM", you generally get the best performance for a given number of parameters by going with Qwen2.5
oooooooooog: im more of an emergant misalignment kind of guy
clevermoniker: hm i see
clevermoniker: https://tenor.com/view/letter-h-meme-when-the-zuckerberg-eyes-gif-20659945
3ds0662: Llama buns
destrucules: Because they're the best at making high performance small local models
hikukomoru: Llama 4 💀
clevermoniker: why?
destrucules: I'm mostly looking forward to Qwen3
clevermoniker: The thing i am looking forward the most for now is R2, but i am curious to see how long it will take for open source to get 4o image generation level, since image generation in open source is so behind. My bet is a year easy
destrucules: I agree with the others here who pointed out the bias of the sample, but it's also notable that the modal outcome is $0
anathemaofmankind: Grown ass man wants a papa
hikukomoru: 20
zonchao: 45
anathemaofmankind: How old are you
destrucules: I can barely take care of myself
3ds0662: When Deepseek R2 drops
hikukomoru: Can you be my papa
ailoveyoom: Daddy Destrucules sounds fire
oooooooooog: you birthed urself???
zoermena: Real
destrucules: I doubt I'd be a good parent to one child. Hell, I'm a bad parent to myself
destrucules: Or are you saying I should be a parent to 100 adopted children?
anathemaofmankind: 1.7k are willing to kill 100k people for a billion dollars <@378996537704841216>
From a sample size of 8k.
And 60% are willing to kill people in general
zonchao: we buy them GOLDEN CARDS
hikukomoru: Airlift them straight to Guantanamo
destrucules: With no legal status? They'd end up in one of Trump's concentration camps
ailoveyoom: I like how you specified low income lmao
zonchao: you can airlift 100 children from Africa and let them live here
destrucules: Male aged 18-35 single with low income
hikukomoru: I won't forgive you
hikukomoru: Stop tempting his pure soul
ailoveyoom: I wonder what the demographics are like in all those random porn subs with horny comments
destrucules: Unless I'm personally doing all of the component tasks within the charity, I have little confidence this would work better than donating to an existing charity
anathemaofmankind: 😎
oooooooooog: redditors are 50% normies at least
anathemaofmankind: No they are left wing
zonchao: bro thinks redditors are normies 💀
destrucules: Unlikely. One billion in liquid assets is basically fictional. Actual billionaires can't spend their money on whatever they want, as spending even a little bit of money causes the rest of their money to disappear
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hikukomoru: What
hey1_1hey: Please do so to continue continutiy
hey1_1hey: You haven't changed your pfp
hikukomoru: Zamn the future lookin kinda 🫦 🫦
hey1_1hey: Wait I gotta anyalise, enhance, identify, critically think and more about when the o-series of models have been released. If this trends continues we will have o-120 by the end of the year (trust me, I did the vibes in my head)
_cloudost: Should be Oreo
_cloudost: Orion
hey1_1hey: Please OAI get a better naming sheme. Surly GPT-5 can make one for you
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
_cloudost: 10 million tokens of o3 will cost $0.0000001
literallyvarane: I can’t imagine that’s been on ice for 4 months.
literallyvarane: It’s probably just a better model tbh. Like a ~3.2 or something. A marginally better checkpoint, a bit more refined etc than whatever they benched before.
otub: hopefully one improvement is the cost
otub: https://x.com/sama/status/1908167790336651720
.wolfnacht: the naming is gonna confuse alot of people who are just starting to adopt AI
otub: lol so there will be 4o-mini and o4-mini
literallyvarane: I’d be shocked if it wasn’t tbh
literallyvarane: surely GPT5 is just wholesale > o4 mini
hey1_1hey: " but the most exciting one is that we are going to be able to make GPT-5 much better than we originally thought."
GPT-5 + o4-mini AGI (trust)
hey1_1hey: That don't seem to bad if you ask me 🥵
.wolfnacht: "year 2103".
Name=Human
Serial Number=920003
Class=Slave
Occupation=Miner on asteriod-098
literallyvarane: I’m not super sold on where R2 ends up landing though. I think that’s where their compute deficit might make itself more clear.
hey1_1hey: I gotta go update my friends and artist friends to reassure that their career is over
literallyvarane: I’m not sure they’d even *know* it was coming, but this could be a response to regain the lead from 2.5, or maybe some concern about an R2 situation.
hey1_1hey: We prob wont be classed as "humans" in 100 years by todays standards
.wolfnacht: Hooman extinction wehn ? 😩
hey1_1hey: I did the calculations with vibes so you can trust me
hey1_1hey: Nah we will feed the ASI artists as fuel to make the dyson sphere
futurist_wizard: Impossible
.wolfnacht: he still has control over the metaverse thing, which is pretty dead rn..but could be revived and become cool in 2027 or 2028. he still has the best cards in his hands.
hey1_1hey: Dyson sphere 2027
hey1_1hey: Not sure but I gotta 100x my expectations rq
literallyvarane: Yeah I’m reading this as “GPT5 is o4+all the features you’d expect.
memlaswaif: im assuming this means gpt 5 reasoning is o4 level
.wolfnacht: >feel the agi gif
hey1_1hey: o4-mini better be able to decipher my gender identity for me or its not AGI
hey1_1hey: I can feel it <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
memlaswaif: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
hey1_1hey: THIS IS A LATE APRIL FOOLS
.wolfnacht: i wonder that the benchmark gonna be like for full o4
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hikukomoru: Fractal coded
.histic: <@430269783112548362> did you try it yet?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-quote-those-people-debra-kay-gif-14621910
fractalcomputer: It is an inevitability that one be forced to find meaning in life knowing that there fundamentally isn't any for him.
futurist_wizard: You have an impressive vocab i will give you that, if not for the dictionary I'd think im communicating with an alien
hikukomoru:
fractalcomputer: People have a tendency to trivialise others' statements by noting their divergence from the norm.
hey1_1hey: I'd look into it. The woke hormone juice is good (milk)
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
st.sioux:
hikukomoru: Zamn looks like I need to drink some soy milk too
fractalcomputer: Are you not antipathised by the banality and meaninglessness of those people and things around you?
hey1_1hey: Double Ds mind you. Soy milk does wonders
hikukomoru: That's how he got his boobs
hey1_1hey: I'll look into that ty
hey1_1hey: That could be a possibility
hey1_1hey: One time it was borderline the next time they said I wasn't even close
futurist_wizard: Maybe you've been overdosing on soy milk
hey1_1hey: By different people
hey1_1hey: Got tested twice lmao
hey1_1hey: There is someone I know who is borderline illiterate because of their dyslexia. Shits bad
ailoveyoom: Cheapest Sonnet run
futurist_wizard: They need to test again
hikukomoru: Faker
hey1_1hey: I got tested and they were like nah bruh
st.sioux: helppe
st.sioux: i can not speelll
hey1_1hey: Nah you a fakey
futurist_wizard: I have dyslexia and you seem to be severe
fractalcomputer: You are most welcome.
hey1_1hey: That is indeed what I said
hey1_1hey: Correct
hey1_1hey: Thanks Fractal
futurist_wizard: Borderline
hey1_1hey: I am borderline dyslexic, I don't type the word I just remember patterns of the words I use
fractalcomputer: Because certain people cannot spell.
hikukomoru: Aren't you an estrogen femboy or whatever
futurist_wizard: To type
futurist_wizard: You are making it more time consuming
futurist_wizard: Why do you add letters to my name
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a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/davidad/status/1918059244680552892?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
metaldragon01: Ultra if it's real will drop with the new subs
spicy.lemonade: and prob not even then
spicy.lemonade: its may 20th
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 ultra is not next week
brain4brain: Next week will be interesting
otub: https://tenor.com/view/apple-cat-cat-with-apple-apple-with-cat-cute-cat-gif-6092596570848924427
st.sioux:
drewsni: o7
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/gn-homies-gif-26916903
trojan09205: Thats fantastic brother we all have different paths to learning software development and there is no right or wrong as long as you actually learn to develop the skills that you will keep
drewsni: And I can’t forget my magnum opus, the geoguessr benchmark <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
drewsni: All in like 2.5 years, feels good
drewsni: I was really bad at coding when ChatGPT came out, and I like to think that I’ve greatly improved since then. Kinda the best time to really grind learning to code if you think about it. Got the basics/fundementals with gpt 3.5 turbo, expanded when GPT 4 came out and made an iPhone app, learned databases when I was trying to figure out RAG, got way better at web dev when 3.5 sonnet came out, and now I can train my own computer vision models from scratch using my own data
drewsni: Yeah, I also like to at least be constantly learning while the agent is working. If it does something I don’t quite recognize I always ask for clarification and a reason
drewsni: From what I understand if vibe coding, it’s people that actually don’t have any experience and need the agent to do everything for them. Like they’d have to ask “how do I run this python file” type questions
trojan09205: yeah that i find ridiculous lol. im just imagining your use case with raw data ingestion. you definitely need to feed it schemas and investigate nuances in the data yourself before asking the AI to build with it
drewsni: What I do I guess is just guided but I think there’s people who legitimately don’t look at any of the code and just go with it
trojan09205: whats the difference between vibe coding and guided AI augmented coding
drewsni: I’m about to put it to the real test tho and see if it can vibe code a working radar that uses the rawest form of radar data
drewsni: Mainly gov sources
drewsni: 90% of my projects are smaller and can fit in a 200k token window but I did try it on a bigger repo and it worked well. The only project I’ve done fully so far with it is a “weather analyst” chatbot that gets context/data from a few different services and APIs
trojan09205: wadafuq
trojan09205: Word that sounds dope
st.sioux: what are u using it for?
zoermena: Their mistake is that they left the plushie dirty and with a name thus I didn’t take it home.
zoermena: The feds are into me.
zoermena: I was driving home when I found a shark plushie in the road. I obviously had to stop to check it out but I’m certain I was under surveillance.
zoermena: I’m bad at conversations but I’ve been meaning to share this here for a while
hikukomoru: WHAT
zoermena: <@505313122802728972> I was almost kidnapped some days ago
drewsni: Yeah it’s basically Claude code with a web ui. Personally I prefer Claude code because it’s in terminal and I can make sure it uses max context possible every time
zoermena: What I do is I attach the thanks and please in the begging or end of the message after it gives any output. I only send a final thank you once I’m finished with the task.
hikukomoru: It's impossible to not say "thank you" and "please" after every message
trojan09205: I assume so i cant say i really know what claude code is. But when you said its agentic i figured id ask if u use manus
trojan09205: True true but im a chatter i just like to talk like a bro lol
drewsni: Manus is fairly similar to Claude code right?
zoermena: Good prompting is all that matters to make every single message count
trojan09205: Hm with gpt plus? 100 messages doesnt seem like much
st.sioux: yes its 100 messages per day with o4 mini high, context not as big as 2.5 pro tho
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