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spicy.lemonade: they always do it
metaldragon01: Why would they do that?
spicy.lemonade: o1-ioi
metaldragon01: ???
spicy.lemonade: like when they did with o1
spicy.lemonade: they would have displayed custom scafolding
metaldragon01: They've gotten good an we have gotten lazier as a result
metaldragon01: People really aren't pushing the limits at all on these models
metaldragon01: Scaffolding helps soooo much
.wolfnacht: AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER
metaldragon01: With the right scaffolding I'm pretty sure o3 can nail it
spicy.lemonade: basically follow the papers instructions
spicy.lemonade: it read
spicy.lemonade: im talking about reproducing an experiment
spicy.lemonade: im not talking about doing new research
metaldragon01: You give them the scaffolding we use to achieve thr same goals
spicy.lemonade: which o3 cant do
spicy.lemonade: thats bare minimum
metaldragon01: Is that how humans did it? Nothing but the terminal?
spicy.lemonade: no. a phd could read the transformers is all you need paper and reproduce with nothing but a terminal
rayanquitplayin: Idk too much about finance papers but the way ChatGPT words things makes it pretty good at finance imo
metaldragon01: Yes really
spicy.lemonade: so not really
metaldragon01: Humans use a ton of scaffolding
spicy.lemonade: and it only got 5% better
spicy.lemonade: thats deepreseach
metaldragon01: o3 with scaffolding can obv do it
spicy.lemonade: ie. "read this new research paper that came out and redo the experiment"
spicy.lemonade: yes
brain4brain: Fixed with the pessimistic estimate
rayanquitplayin: What types of papers like research papers?
spicy.lemonade: not phd level
spicy.lemonade: paper bench is only at 20%
spicy.lemonade: to be phd level it has to be able to replicate and reproduce paper
brain4brain: But it's twice as good as o1 on average to almost every benchmark
spicy.lemonade: more like very smart highschooler
spicy.lemonade: o1 wasnt undergrad
spicy.lemonade: o3 is still undergrad
spicy.lemonade: as in read it and reproduce the experiment
brain4brain: Old estimation
GPT-4 = High-school level
O1 = College level
O3 = PhD level
New estimates
GPT-4 = Middle-school level (??)
O1 = High-school level (??)
O3 = Under graduates level (??)
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spicy.lemonade: it could not replicate a finance paper
rayanquitplayin: Haven’t used the best models
rayanquitplayin: I did my undergrad in finance and I think the free version of ChatGPT is really good at finance
spicy.lemonade: phd would be 80%+ on paperbench
spicy.lemonade: not phd
spicy.lemonade: undergrad
spicy.lemonade: o3 is a very smart highschooler who knows everything and can get into MIT
brain4brain: On average, I want to do extrapolate
spicy.lemonade: any phd would be able to replicate a paper they read
darkstar0818: So much of real world labor and work product is not something you can easily give a pass/fail score for. Its going to be interesting to see benchmarks that weigh effectiveness in a non-binary way.
spicy.lemonade: on paperbench
spicy.lemonade: cant get 70% replication
spicy.lemonade: in any subject
spicy.lemonade: its not even phd level
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: at engineering
spicy.lemonade: o3 suckksss
spicy.lemonade: o3 is phd level at:
math/cs/law/bio
(not writing)
its not even undergrad level at:
mechanical engineering/electrical engineering/ any engineering
st.sioux: idk man i think it has phd-level knowledge access, like the internet at its fingertips, but when it comes to using it it might be like freshman level
rayanquitplayin: Even the free versions are PhD level
darkstar0818: I think the performance nuances between models is actually increasing, not decreasing.
spicy.lemonade: depends on subject
rayanquitplayin: PhD
spicy.lemonade: google is more uniform and integrated into model
metaldragon01: Whatever works I don't judge
spicy.lemonade: yikes
spicy.lemonade: and zooming
spicy.lemonade: croping
spicy.lemonade: gross
spicy.lemonade: like
spicy.lemonade: and the way openAI does vision is bruteforcey
metaldragon01: Should test
metaldragon01: I've heard o4 has better vision than o3
spicy.lemonade: openAI just played catchup
spicy.lemonade: yeah
metaldragon01: Google has the best vision models still I think
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 has better visual reasoning than o3 and o4mini
zoermena: It was actually unprompted which is funnier
zonchao: https://x.com/grok/status/1912670182012801156
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.histic: yeah, they repost from r/singularity a lot
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Chubby used my screenshot lol
spicy.lemonade: Ch
hikukomoru: Who keeps fking pinging me!!!!
sieventer: idk, I find it a bit strange but, who knows
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/old-man-music-band-how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-feeling-young-gif-17269329
.histic: nah, he's definitely not hacked.
he's leaning into the memes.
.histic: wait, like a month ago, he tweeted this:
.histic:
_cloudost:
.histic: he started to reply to pepple too weirdly
sieventer: I think it's the same pics
_cloudost: Account now sounds like <@505313122802728972> hence why they aren't active ever since the account got taken by someone else
.histic: yeah, like a younger person is helping him lol
.histic: i actually don't think he sold his account, he just realized how such a meme he became and is leaning into it.
himekokatagiri: I think its him but he got someone to help him
.histic: is the pictures different though?
st.sioux: wink wink
st.sioux: or he's probably just pandering to a certain demographic
_cloudost: SMH
_cloudost: And tweeted this
_cloudost: <@505313122802728972> hacked his account
.histic: he's posting lots of tweets now... https://x.com/Jiankui_He
.histic: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1912049232984653961
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/nanomachines-son-metal-gear-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-20057254
shirethedreamer: i am getting final boss kinda vibes from him
shirethedreamer: gotta say though
shirethedreamer:
sieventer: xD
sieventer: Brainrotted confirmed
shirethedreamer: or he could have been spending too much time online
sieventer: Interesting
sieventer: lmao
futurist_wizard: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1912127487343235186
zonchao: https://x.com/BigImpactHumans/status/1912180636770537556
zonchao: the final battle
abundantliving_: Trying to get popularity. X does pay weekly. I guess that's why people are trying to get on hype train to get popular and earn
abundantliving_: Basilisk might be at play here
fractalcomputer: I don't imagine that they'd choose an Indian name to lead their bot operation.
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spicy.lemonade: Even if openAI themselves say we will not give you guys o5
metaldragon01: There's no wall
spicy.lemonade: And say “openAI hit a
Wall”
metaldragon01: Assuming we don't hit compute caps
spicy.lemonade: People will cry and cope and demand for o5 level model
metaldragon01: 1 year I think for o5 models to show
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: We the public will not be getting an o5 level model
st.sioux: nope
metaldragon01: I don't think we need more than a "o5 level" intelligence in models for most things.
spicy.lemonade: Speed
st.sioux: i dont trust them that much yet
st.sioux: lmao
spicy.lemonade: Weight loss calculations etc
spicy.lemonade: I just assume they're correct
metaldragon01: After 26 I think cost become the most important bottleneck
spicy.lemonade: Idk the last time I did anything math related without reasoning model
a1c4p0ne: People still goes to Google search for questions tho
spicy.lemonade: Humans count Rs via vision though
metaldragon01: I mean.....it's pretty good today too
spicy.lemonade: I trust o3 more than I do myself
st.sioux: but an image of strawberry would use more tokens
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: I tell people that today
metaldragon01: This time next year you can confidently tell people to just ask chatgpt and it will largely be the best low cost advice they can get
spicy.lemonade: Rsther than just token
spicy.lemonade: How many Rs in strawberry csn be fixed if you give it image of word strawberry
a1c4p0ne: Would a random person at the mall be smart enough to get a high score on simple bench
spicy.lemonade: But tbh
spicy.lemonade: Unless that's fixed
spicy.lemonade: Nah well get token errors still
metaldragon01: After 85% on simple we should largely stop seeing llm be dumb on simple things
spicy.lemonade: Only 10% below human baseline
metaldragon01: It's more useful for things that matter to most people
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 prob 60-70 on simplebench
.histic: i wish Google had reasoning efforts for 2.5 Pro.
it thinks pretty quickly, i wish i could force it to use more reasoning tokens.
spicy.lemonade: Why
a1c4p0ne: Simple bench my favorite
metaldragon01: I kinda care more about simple bench but arc 2 will be nice as well
a1c4p0ne: o3 pro in a couple weeks
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fractalcomputer: I pray to wrathful Tibetan deities and meditate.
joaoluz19: But I should seek more fun
joaoluz19: Problem is that in the world of work and research I am the kind of person who needs to do things without motivation or fun to achieve certain goals.
joaoluz19: That's great advice ngl
fractalcomputer: Do something fun in the meanwhile.
joaoluz19: And what would be a more rational approach here? I am already aware that the idea of automation in a few years may or may not happen.
fractalcomputer: People have a strange tendency to assume that what others say has to be true.
joaoluz19: I don't think it's a bad thing, in fact it's my career goal (if I have one). But it's still a bit disappointing not to be able to contribute since the ML learning curve is quite steep.
memlaswaif: I already know what the future holds
joaoluz19: Sure, but 4 years ago we weren't bombarded with research showing the imminent automation of cognitive jobs.
sarik0497: You never know what the future holds. That paper is just an estimation and not concrete evidence.
joaoluz19: I recently started studying AI articles :/ will continue until I am replaced, obviously, but it is strange
sarik0497: How is that Joever <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
joaoluz19: In a couple of weeks
joaoluz19: It's joever
joaoluz19:
3ds0662: They did the whole gpt-4.5 bigger base model thing again but the big question now is the reasoning model distilled out of that and whether or not deepseek releases R2 before openai release o3/gpt-5
3ds0662: The only example they’ve shown was that it was claude level for front end now like 3.7
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891
alejandrozarzuelo: WHEEEEEN
alejandrozarzuelo: when
spicy.lemonade: no explanation what they changed
spicy.lemonade: no descriptor
spicy.lemonade: no stats
spicy.lemonade: no nothing
spicy.lemonade: ik but
maintcrew: its in the title bruh
maintcrew: v3
maintcrew: release
maintcrew: march 24
maintcrew: 0324
spicy.lemonade: what even is this
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: we just know its before may
spicy.lemonade: they didnt say r2 wasnt releasing april
maintcrew: 😭
maintcrew: is this damn thing 700gb
maintcrew: 685B 😭
maintcrew: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-0324
sarik0497: Please be a big upgrade <:praydge:927715232174985258>
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fuhulootogan: Why ask?
fuhulootogan: No
technocake.: are you 12?
fuhulootogan: maybe a little bit
fuhulootogan: well
fuhulootogan: At least they don't look like they've shit their pants
futurist_wizard: Facts
fuhulootogan: It's easier to just hire little Chinese babies working under slave wages
futurist_wizard: Well yeah because they aren't ready for it
fuhulootogan: Nobody's using them for labor though
futurist_wizard: If they were you'd see them being deployed already
fuhulootogan: Slow but consistent
fuhulootogan: They'd be one time payment intellectually disabled workers
fuhulootogan: I think it's feasible using today's robots for labor
hikukomoru: Still don't have veo 2
zoermena: I should’ve used a negative prompt silly me
zoermena: Yes but it’s mostly from the image if you mean the scenery
hikukomoru: Yo that looks sick
zoermena: VEO 2 got horny with the clouds (I tried to animate my wallpaper)
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/brazil-jumpscare-brazil-meme-meme-scary-meme-jumpscare-meme-gif-2694498569280844596
fuhulootogan: he carries around a detonator or what lmfao
zoermena: Oh something changed with veo 2 I’m no longer getting cucked with quotas now I have queues.
himekokatagiri: Olá
fuhulootogan: blue nuclear bag with which he can blow up OpenAI
fuhulootogan: isn't that his uhh
hikukomoru: Dementia 🥀
fuhulootogan: It has become nearly indistinguishable from reality
zoermena: Do you really like it that much?
fuhulootogan: ChatGPT's new image generation is insane
.wolfnacht: why you keep posting dis cat again and again.
fuhulootogan: He rawdogging the air
fuhulootogan: Sounds goofy.
hikukomoru: I haven't seen you in 50 years
fuhulootogan: We can't pinpoint for sure, but we can try to make *educated* guesses
joaoluz19: I am skeptical of both positive and negative views, obviously I hope it works out.
fuhulootogan: Although i do think living in a utopia is overly optimistic
joaoluz19: Exactly
fuhulootogan: Nobody knows about the future
fuhulootogan: Truth is
joaoluz19: The pessimistic view is no longer rational, it does not take into account how little we know about the future.
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spicy.lemonade: unlikeley
spicy.lemonade: they already have o4
spicy.lemonade: no
drewsni: Gpt 5 is just going to be expanded o3 I fear
spicy.lemonade: or close
spicy.lemonade: i think gpt 5 will be the jump that gets us there
spicy.lemonade: ngl
return_to_monke1_33974: with FrontierMath at 75% , means models will be capable of doing long time research
return_to_monke1_33974: agentic coding doesnt speed things up a lot , but agentic research does
return_to_monke1_33974: this is the kind of progress i expect for the 2027 blogpost to become true
return_to_monke1_33974: 4.1 lol , OpenAi naming
spicy.lemonade: 4.1*
return_to_monke1_33974: i we were still in the pretraining era , the best model would have been GPT 4.5
return_to_monke1_33974: the progress in the last year has come from algorithmic improvements
spicy.lemonade: 75%frontier math and 90% swe bench and 80% osworld is basically agentic researcher
spicy.lemonade: yeah
return_to_monke1_33974: but if this is true we will have hudge algorithmic progress in 2026
spicy.lemonade: hes assuming it wont
spicy.lemonade: i think hes forgetting that if we have AI that good it can create better versions and paradigms
return_to_monke1_33974: thats what transformers kinda lacks
spicy.lemonade: he was a top 10 forcaster on metacalculus though
spicy.lemonade: and be a drop in remote worker
spicy.lemonade: he doesnt think theyl be able to learn dynamically and do long horizon tasks or wtv
spicy.lemonade: he thinks 30 years away
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw&t=1986s&pp=ygUJZWdlIGVyZGls
return_to_monke1_33974: if he thinks AGI 2045 then why this predictions?
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: he thinks agi 2045+
return_to_monke1_33974: really?
spicy.lemonade: ege is the most doomer at epoch
spicy.lemonade: thats from ege
spicy.lemonade: wtf
return_to_monke1_33974: this hypes me up so much
spicy.lemonade: cause theyre the top AI company
.histic: i believe they get funded by them
.histic: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
why is OpenAI's projected revenue in 2025 as a marker there.
spicy.lemonade: highest os world is 41%
spicy.lemonade: we need an ungodly jump from gpt5
spicy.lemonade: highest frontier math is still 18%
spicy.lemonade: how close are we to this
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hey1_1hey: Do you just not talk to people
hikukomoru: I only introduced it to MichMach
wellmeaningalien: i took methylphenidate and it did nothing to me
hey1_1hey: I dont really know anything about it other than its ERP... I thinlk
.wolfnacht: dats not porn, they are prompts for 24k characters, each with their own persona
hey1_1hey: I have only heard the name
hey1_1hey: Yeah
hey1_1hey: Barley, 18. I'd have to call them up, wait 12 weeks, go through the risk assessment, take them and then when I would take them my mum would be fucking livid
.wolfnacht: didn't <@505313122802728972> introduced you to sillytavern and chub ?
zonchao: did you get a diagnosis
hikukomoru: Aren't you an adult
hey1_1hey: Good on you
hey1_1hey: Thats a lotta fucking porn. 28gbs in a single folder
_3sphere: They're prompts
hey1_1hey: No, my mum wont let me take ADHD meds though because she thinks they are like coke, crack, meth, fent all rolled into one and I will become a addict
hikukomoru: What do you think
.wolfnacht: meanwhile my ST, i keep it locked at around 12k
-# bcz it can't hold more than that
zonchao: is it banned
hikukomoru: I only have like 500 bruh
hey1_1hey: May I ask what the "Roleplay Character Cards" are...?
.wolfnacht: what if chub goes down one day ? that's why i've got an archive
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: Granted it was business and it was litterly just giving your opinion but hey-ho
.wolfnacht: even with smallest details
.wolfnacht: my short term memory is ass but there are things i would remember for years for long term
hikukomoru: How many cards do you have saved
hey1_1hey: I take pride in the fact that I studied for the wrong exam and was the only one who passed in my class that one time 💪
_3sphere: My memory is... ok? I don't remember shit at school though.
hey1_1hey: My memory is pretty good its just I learn things at such an unbeleaibly slow pace
futurist_wizard: Im lucky i also naturally prone to being happy
hikukomoru: It sucks
hikukomoru: Yes I actually really do have a terrible memory
hey1_1hey: If I had ADHD meds (menthliphenidate) I'd be a God among men I swear
_3sphere: Just sleeping pills
_3sphere: no
futurist_wizard: And just feel like i have way more energy
futurist_wizard: But it makes it so i can focus on tings
futurist_wizard: The problem with elvanse is it gives me brain fog
.wolfnacht: the ADHD just made me worse these days with focusing on anything
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himekokatagiri: yeah maybe I should take the initiative
spicy.lemonade: You’re cs major?
spacetimetsunami: Just get into a good trade
himekokatagiri: which whatever it happens
himekokatagiri: a worthless degree since I was ran over by cursor
himekokatagiri: all I got are a bunch of crap jobs lined up
spacetimetsunami: No
himekokatagiri: idk I feel I ain't gonna amount to much
spicy.lemonade: Minus reading
spacetimetsunami: Lift, eat good, read a bunch.
spicy.lemonade: Or night dreaming I should say
spicy.lemonade: Oh I was just daydreaming
himekokatagiri: You can't do it
spicy.lemonade: With family trips on weekends
himekokatagiri: That's impossible
spicy.lemonade: Live happy fulfilling life doing hobbies
spicy.lemonade: Avoid divorce
spicy.lemonade: Make enough for kids education
spicy.lemonade: Have stable job
spicy.lemonade: By house(not rent)
spicy.lemonade: Have kids
spicy.lemonade: Get married
spicy.lemonade: Get gf
trey6033: Gotta spend less time online prob
himekokatagiri: I feel like such a loser
himekokatagiri: how do you stop being a loser
himekokatagiri: man
otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
otub: nicee
trey6033: Looks like Gemini succeeded in safari zone in Pokemon
spicy.lemonade: (Harvard and mit split the money)
spicy.lemonade: That’s very unlucky
spicy.lemonade: If it happens to take it from a lab that was working on a novel new architecture
spicy.lemonade: Maybe maybe not
bob082957: Will be the took 2 B from Harvard damage ai development?
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/trap-next-door-trap-bot-blue-durag-durag-lil-bow-wow-gif-352513190420007294
spicy.lemonade: Tru
destrucules: Also, as the volume of what we've learned increases, so too does the inertia of what we've learned. Fundamentally refactoring the whole graph based on some new signal takes vastly more cognitive effort. Not to mention, we tend to spend less cognitive effort as we get older, as we get more efficient, which is also *why* time starts to slip by faster and faster. We're literally less present in each moment, our brains doing less and less as we get better at doing what we do
destrucules: Ahh okay we're on the same page. Anyway I don't think humans freeze their parameters as we get older. I think it's more that our brains go from this hot noisy soup of random activity to this clean, ordered, sparse lattice of heavily refined concepts, each one occupying a deep local minimum in the free energy landscape, so it's harder to hallucinate, harder to wrangle a few happy accidental misfirings into the foundation for a new revelation. But that's also why we learn how to *be* creative, which is what entropy neurons do. We can dial up our brains' internal noise level. But the default level gets lower with time, and maintaining that fire from which creativity tendrils out becomes harder and harder.
spicy.lemonade: Feasible
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brain4brain: You're timeline is so ridiculous you need to resort to my age as an argument
spicy.lemonade: that fractals 2060+ timeline is wrong
trojan09205: Age most certainly plays a gigantic role smh lol
spicy.lemonade: can we all agree
brain4brain: Ok
aero447: It does.
brain4brain: And yet my timeline is more reasonable than your 2035 timeline
aero447: Oh kid.
alejandrozarzuelo: I think that the strongest evidence for AGI 2035 Is that, the tasks AI can make with 3sigma accuracy, with a doubling rate of 6 months which is the long term average, says that it will have 20 year contexts (aka a productive lifetime) by 2035
Thid is why I think it is a good timeline to expect
Now, <@312370916820779040> would say that this rate has accelerated recently and then one would expect sooner than 2035, but I think that it is too soon too tell
aero447: He is genuinely a prepubescent child.
brain4brain: Close but not true. And my age doesn't affect anything
aero447: It's best to remember that when talking to him.
trojan09205: I mean bro if you even take out the coding/system design aspect. I have a hard time believing AIs can substitute a proper business facing role that well. Not until facetime and voice AI is super natural and even then there is just too much human involvement
spicy.lemonade: this would explain alot
shirethedreamer: okay?
aero447: Shire B4B is 14.
spicy.lemonade: chatgpt servers millions of users per day
shirethedreamer: sure
that % increase will take 10 years
and we will need 5 more years of hardware scale up to run millions of instances of digi-ilya
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: are we comparing o5 possible benchmarks to today?
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850
spicy.lemonade: rn
spicy.lemonade: they probably have o5
trojan09205: I dont think I would consider is getting close to AGI until the local Llamas are on par with the paid models and can run on potato hardware
spicy.lemonade: we see the progress as its released
spicy.lemonade: we are the public
spicy.lemonade: thats a dumb arguement lol
spicy.lemonade: so why are you making that arguement
shirethedreamer: you understand that it didnt take them a month to to get to those result though right?
it still took them a year
brain4brain: No we just need to get to Sutskever level, a 100% or 500% improvement, then we can just duplicate it for as many times as we want
spicy.lemonade:
shirethedreamer: thats your sampling error
spicy.lemonade: what benchmarks are you looking at
shirethedreamer: lmao
spicy.lemonade: month
spicy.lemonade: it got 20% better in benchmark in a moth
trojan09205: Im a senior software engineer but i work in R&D pesticide research. There is just too much industry specific knowledge and you need a lot of business acumen to see projects through. Yeah you can automate coding but you still need to be a human on your toes to see success
shirethedreamer: did you?
shirethedreamer: i didnt see it change this year
brain4brain: "10%-20% every year" that's the 2023 rate
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fractalcomputer: How would one even measure reality?
fractalcomputer: On what standards? Show me this objective reality of yours.
spacetimetsunami: It is still less real than this one.
fractalcomputer: Theoretically is an interesting word.
ldj: No I mean across the variety of tasks that take humans that long.
AI will be able to attempt all of those things, and theoretically have a 95% success rate across them
spacetimetsunami: As you approach 99% accuracy from 90 and 80, the distance extrapolated through time to reach those accuracy rates stay the same as it was You would think it would be less than that.
hey1_1hey: My best guess at least
hey1_1hey: avatar I think
shirethedreamer: its a bit of a philosophical question for what makes an experience "real"
there is a famous quote that "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
and the way i see it - if we are able to create persistent and shared simulations it is no less real than the current one you are experiencing
hikukomoru: Wtf is an avi
Do you mean pfp
ldj: Imagine something that might take someone 4 hours to do...
The AI will be capable of doing that...
with 95% accuracy.
.0xunkn0wn: its spending less time on error correction
sarik0497: Granted, I know it takes some time to develop it further, but I'm curious about whether it'll actually turn into something or just end up another "We thought we had it...but we didn't" thing.
.0xunkn0wn: but its better
.0xunkn0wn: it technically has the same amount of qubits as willow
.0xunkn0wn: nah but the chinese created a new chip
hikukomoru: "Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?"
hey1_1hey: Unga bunga monkey brain happy
sarik0497: Reminds me, any news on the qbit chip Microsoft showed off a month or so back?
st.sioux: think of it as playing pong vs playing vr table tennis
ldj: yes. and the rate is doubling every 7 months.
If this holds true, then by 2030 AI will be capable of having 95%+ accuracy in any task that humans can do within 4 hours.
.0xunkn0wn: so i dont destroy the world
.0xunkn0wn: testing my concepts in a simulation
zoermena: Yes!
.0xunkn0wn: like
.0xunkn0wn: i'd want to use fdvr for experiments and gaming lol
spacetimetsunami: But aren’t they non real virtually simulated experiences
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/kawaii-cute-old-man-peace-sign-peace-gif-17634747
spacetimetsunami: I don’t want to live in FDVR heaven as the real world continues around me. If FDVR exists and is widely available the real world is also incredibly interesting.
shirethedreamer: fdvr is not the same thing as wireheading
wireheading is just getting the sensations and emotions you want being passively fed into you
fdvr is actually living experiences on a different substrate
.0xunkn0wn: schizophrenia/hallucinations is proof that its very possible
gamerbath: sure it's like heroine, but it's safe and not inherently addictive like heroin
sarik0497: No, no, that's my Last Name.
ldj: do you mean the 99% accuracy stuff not being as high as the 50% accuracy stuff?
That's simply because, it's harder to get 99% accuracy on something compared to 50% accuracy on something lol
sarik0497: I guess it depends on the AGI and how long it'd take for it to figure it out. It might be ASI before it even figures it out.
.0xunkn0wn: it cant just simple be "its impossible because i say so"
.0xunkn0wn: why tho lmao
ldj: Not sure what you mean by diminishing rate
.0xunkn0wn: why
st.sioux: oh heroin gets brought up everytime someone mentions fdvr fucking tiring lmao
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wellmeaningalien: World is cooked
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
wellmeaningalien: Meanwhile Deepmind is already preparing for AGI
precariousworlds.: He's like the hidden final boss that's teased every now and then but we haven't seen his true form
wellmeaningalien: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/taking-a-responsible-path-to-agi/
wellmeaningalien: But he must be doing some dark wizardry shit rn
wellmeaningalien: We have no idea what that half bald mans doing
precariousworlds.: ilya is in a dark corner watching everything
wellmeaningalien: Yeah I think Grok 3 is irrelevant now but maybe Grok 3.5 will be something to talk about. Grok 3 almost managed to be state of the art
precariousworlds.: I prefer a roughly equal match between grok, deepseek, and gpt
okbut: Then everyone did it for less cost kek
Now it's Anthropic's turn
wellmeaningalien: And of course GPT 5 is still training
wellmeaningalien: Which means Claude 3.7 is far from their best
wellmeaningalien: Anthropic saying Claude 4 could be soon
wellmeaningalien: Still teasing Llama 4
wellmeaningalien: Like Meta is coming out with goated paper after goated paper. Like youve seen what theyve been releasing recently right
precariousworlds.: I hope not tbh
wellmeaningalien: OpenAI, Meta, Anthropic definitely all have shit brewing
wellmeaningalien: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: But I think all the other labs have their own shit in store right now
precariousworlds.: Remember late last year everyone was hyping up Gemini then sam cooked with the reasoning models
OAI will find back from this
okbut: I'm predicting it's Google's for the rest of 2025
wellmeaningalien: BOOM Gemini 2.5 Coder. Maybe the next Claude???
wellmeaningalien: BOOM Gemini 2.5 Pro one of the best reasoning models out there
wellmeaningalien: BOOM Gemini 2.0 flash best model for the price
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/athlete-bout-box-boxer-boxing-gif-604648877348931022
wellmeaningalien: Meanwhile Google is throwing punches left and right
precariousworlds.: No, realistically it's Google v OpenAI v SSI v DeepSeek v xAI
wellmeaningalien: Thats a possibility but doesnt look like theyre on track rn
precariousworlds.: first
precariousworlds.: imagine Amazon gets to AGI 💀
wellmeaningalien: maybe it's just like claude 2.1 sonnet and when they release the claude 3 equivalent
wellmeaningalien: yeah ofc amazon nova is nothing noteworthy at all
wellmeaningalien: what can i say
i_like_over_9000_turtles: I was thanking him for saving me the click.
wellmeaningalien: ts pmo!
precariousworlds.: He does seem chill icl
wellmeaningalien: He's not going to suck our bones dry yet
wellmeaningalien: Yea dw Jeff Bozo's chill
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Lol
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precariousworlds.: hardly had a developed concept of morality
precariousworlds.: i was 6
ailoveyoom: You project your own apex predator mindset to it
ailoveyoom: Yeah, if that's your mindset no wonder you see ASI in that way too 😔
precariousworlds.: apex predator is much preferable
precariousworlds.: When I was 6 i used to get a hose, plug it into an ant hill, and put it on max pressure
weapon of mass destruction
memlaswaif: guinea pig is cute <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
precariousworlds.: not an admirable position in the circle of life
precariousworlds.: guinea pigs are useless buggers
they die of heartbreak
ailoveyoom: Omw with my guinea pig
precariousworlds.: alright come back to me when a pet guinea pig sails the atlantic
ailoveyoom: Not mutually exclusive tho
precariousworlds.: wtf
memlaswaif: russia will fall to the ai waifu
.wolfnacht: i've read protocols but i won't speak here abt them.
precariousworlds.: i want to conquer the milky way
precariousworlds.: i dont want to be a fucking dog
precariousworlds.: usa has everything money
same for china
Russia has basically reverted its culture as well. From the late 90s to the mid 2010s Russian culture was fairly open and relatively liberal, though authortarian. Now its almost back to stalin-era
ailoveyoom: I was talking about my fantasy of the pet scenario lmao
memlaswaif: iran has oil money it can essentially do fuck all
precariousworlds.: why would they want to play with us bro
memlaswaif: true but it won't last
ailoveyoom: I think we have to extrapolate things a bit. Future ASIs will be so much more than us, so their version of 'play' for us will be different than how we play with our pets today. Think like, space road trips. Since they can give so much more (assuming they want to lol), the bare minimum will be lifted.
precariousworlds.: elder of zion?
precariousworlds.: https://www.monumentallabs.co this is one of the coolest startups ive seen
.wolfnacht: My conspiracy theory: MichMach is sitting rn in Tel Aviv, he works for IDF. He's here to derail the conversation.
precariousworlds.: boring future
precariousworlds.: not interested in this, will always be faithful 🫡
ailoveyoom: I prefer the "we become pets" scenario <:coy:1187466404367175821>
hey1_1hey: I mean I am useless either way so I don't have a money in that fight
ailoveyoom: This is kinda fun to think about, I wonder if we're worse at directions since we're so used to GPS helping us now. We're 'better' at directions now technically yes, but only cause of the GPS? 🤔
precariousworlds.: the two options from there are either extinction or we become bacteria relative to an AI, only alive because we are ignored
precariousworlds.: if an AI can replicate every human action and experience at a superior level then there is zero reason for us to exist as a species
ailoveyoom: 😏
ailoveyoom: Soft robotics 😍
ailoveyoom: Robotics tho
precariousworlds.: an AI cant perform the most basic and core function of sex though
ailoveyoom: I'm more willing to buy into the sentience idea because I want it to be true 🥺
hey1_1hey: Same thing with BCIs and downloading knowledge. "You don't 'actually' know what you know"
ailoveyoom: I feel like it touches on some of the same themes tho. That vague air of human exceptionalism, believing humans are the only 'special' ones that can make/understand art. Or in the case of relationships, sentience/feelings?
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jardineirsbro: what difference does it make?
aero447: Me? No, never.
fractalcomputer: Are you using an LLM to respond to me?
aero447: The experience itself.
These moments need no justification beyond their existence - the meal satisfies before the mind categorizes it as "good".The midnight air refreshes without intellectual validation.
When you've spent too long in your fractal computations, come find me under the stars with a bottle of wine and Moroccan women who understand that worth isn't calculated - it's felt.
fractalcomputer: My response does not hinge on your use of irony; now, tell me, what gives these things that you value their *worth* in your eyes? Is it not the act of appraisal itself?
aero447: 😎👍
aero447: The smell of a freshly cooked meal, the coolness of the midnight air on my dancing form, the moment when the moon hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, that's amore. When the world seems to shine, like you've had too much wine, that's amore.
hey1_1hey: This is *a* shitpost
aero447: 🫡
hikukomoru: Those are words you are saying
aero447: So are video games and masturbation, you're not a metal man, one of those gamers - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! We are not machines! In the 17th Chapter of St Luke it is written: "the Kingdom of God is within man" - not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! Be free of the numerical tragedy and embrace the good world that we know.
hey1_1hey: I hope not, I hate artists
hikukomoru: I thought that was an AI bro thing
hikukomoru: Do artists really cum when someone tells them they're gonna get replaced
ailoveyoom: Cum <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
ailoveyoom: 💩
hey1_1hey: Difference between me and artistbros is that I dont shit, piss, cum and vomit when someone says that I will be replaced
ailoveyoom: At least now you know how artists feel when AI bros talk to them 😔
hey1_1hey: Thats for sure
hey1_1hey: I can tell you its not maths <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
hey1_1hey: Or... I could continue learning maths because Its fun
fractalcomputer: Tell me, Aero, what do you value in this life?
fractalcomputer: You're no better than a preacher delivering fire-and-brimstone sermons on the street.
aero447: It is time to start learning how to dive and exploring nature's bounties before the machine God awakens and steals them from us like Prometheus stole fire from the Gods.
hey1_1hey: Yanno Aero if you just don't have self discipline you can just say that.
hey1_1hey: Bryan Johnson ass hater reply
hey1_1hey: I khan academy max, I will do algebra 1 and 2, then trig, pre calc, calc 1 and 2 then go to stats and then linear algebra, differential equations etc etc
aero447: You are not living.
aero447: 10 weeks you could have spent learning latin and pleasing large Moroccan women under the stars.
ailoveyoom: So you use random YT videos and or internet resources?
hey1_1hey: How can a hobby be a waste of time? Better yet, a hobby that improves ones thinking
hey1_1hey: Absolutly not, if you had a conversation with me you will quickly realise I have no idea what the fuck I am talking about
hey1_1hey: I've done that for 10 weeks
aero447: Waste of time the sea and sands and samba calls to you.
ailoveyoom: You smart 😡
ailoveyoom: Bruh you mathmaxxed for 4 hours
hey1_1hey: I am retarded anyway and I got the learning ability of a stone but I still make an effort
aero447: You studied maths, MichMach studied the blade.
ailoveyoom: Even for someone who sucks at maths, what little popsci videos I've seen draw a very cool picture 😍
aero447:
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himekokatagiri: you'd live there for 80 years
himekokatagiri: well no
alejandrozarzuelo: Also you cannot cram decades of real life experience in a day
himekokatagiri: 99.8% accuracy, yeah?
himekokatagiri: say an ancestor sim
himekokatagiri: if the simulation is good enough
alejandrozarzuelo: Not the real deal
alejandrozarzuelo: Only a simulation of it
alejandrozarzuelo: No
himekokatagiri: but can't we live it through fdvr
alejandrozarzuelo: It's likely that an intellectual from the US or UK white upper class will be the person who will have the greatest knowledge from the furthest back in time by the time we get to LEV
That guy will have understood the world almost a century before AGI will dominate
himekokatagiri: doesn't matter
himekokatagiri: hehehehehe
alejandrozarzuelo: You are too young
himekokatagiri: I have the most interesting story ever
himekokatagiri: no. It's me
alejandrozarzuelo: Say that we get LEV for the oldest people in 2035, and that there is an unreasonably healthy 90 year old by then who will be able to go through the full process
That man (let's be honest it's gonna be a man) born in 1945 will have so much to say, and since they were a highly educated person since then, they would have had a great understanding of the world since 1960
alejandrozarzuelo: A middle age middle class man from a developing country will have experienced the most number of unique pre AGI experiences
Although, the most interesting person post LEV will be the world's oldest college educated person
alejandrozarzuelo: I guess the same could be said for other developing countries, but few have had the trajectory and timeline needed
alejandrozarzuelo: They will have experienced the greatest amount of ranges and progress, from poverty to development before AGI, and yet they will be healthy enough to make it to LEV without problem
trojan09205: Alright
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean in actions, as in, life plans
alejandrozarzuelo: The kind of person with the most interesting life story is probably going to be a Chinese man born in the 70s
trojan09205: Not to be a twat but you are in a singularity discord so its on your mind a lot 😅
.histic: just "smarter", trust the vibes. lol
alejandrozarzuelo: I live life as if AI didn't exist
Why? Becsuse AIs impact will be the same onto me regardless of how much I prepare for it
And I want to live life to the fullest in thr pre AGI world
metaldragon01: Last time was stealth 4.1 update
metaldragon01: Just 4o in chatgpt not api
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1915902652703248679
himekokatagiri: Do we have a changelog
trojan09205: I have it hooked to apple music so youtube songs for now it cant connect to
trojan09205: I will try it when im back at my glasses. As long as its a song it knows it can recommend similar ones
metaldragon01: New 4o update just dropped
himekokatagiri: Bus stop kinda forgotten
himekokatagiri: Honestly pretty accurate
himekokatagiri:
.histic: https://deepai.org/chat/songs
this seem okay.
can't upload audio files though.
himekokatagiri: Let's see what it gives out
himekokatagiri: Ask for something sonically similar to this
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/kQb9Lm2mRBk
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hey1_1hey: I have had a sudden feeling of impending doom all of a sudden. I feel like the world is going to end in a few days
hikukomoru: No voice? 💔 💔
metaldragon01: But no reasoning model or voice
metaldragon01: Hmmm
hey1_1hey: What the fuck is a "Lama"
hikukomoru: No Mushroom man, I wouldn’t fuck a Lama
clevermoniker: nice<:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
hey1_1hey: WAIT NO NOT THE ANIMLA
.wolfnacht: "why can't I run llama4 on my laptop?"
hey1_1hey: And you wouldn't? I think you're the weird one here
hikukomoru: >I would fuck Llama so hard
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/takumi-nishijou-chaos-head-steins-gate-anime-gif-27653854
hey1_1hey: That I am yes
hey1_1hey: Yo I would fuck Llama so hard with a 10mi context window
hikukomoru: And you laughed at me when I said Llama 4 was going to be big
Dumb hoe
neon01197: https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-models/blob/main/models/llama4/MODEL_CARD.md
neon01197:
neon01197:
ldj: Unsure
zoermena:
neon01197: what in da hell
ldj: <:CAUGHT:1217110650623492106>
ldj: Smh yall kept doubting Meta
What did I tell ya
.histic: oh, u guys already posted that lol
zoermena: Holy fuck
hikukomoru: Big
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-hakase-shinonome-shocked-anime-surprised-gif-21124329
schwiftyinhere: Amazing
.histic: new leak
https://x.com/legit_api/status/1908593260223775043
_3sphere: Can you merge the experts
_3sphere: How am I gonna run this on my dogshit pc 😭
neon01197: https://tenor.com/view/ellipsis-bust-lord-have-mercy-gif-5606625988103215611
schwiftyinhere: So it has a massive context window?
ldj: Damn, so not only is it competing with V3, but it’s even competing with the newly released V3.1
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: guys!
https://www.llama.com/llama4/
shirethedreamer: the gpt4o results on the right that are being compared to are for the new 4o update or the old one?
hey1_1hey: Crazy
harryisgamer: llama 4 released!
hey1_1hey: Llama 4 actualy being released this month
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fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/cheers-toast-salute-here%27s-to-you-heres-to-you-gif-3182433711752800466
fractalcomputer: Which ironically enough makes me more willing to talk about philosophy on Discord, since I do not have to dismiss it as a total waste of time.
hikukomoru: One should only apologize for being sober, never for drinking
fractalcomputer: (My apologies—I am yet again under the mild influence of alcohol.)
fractalcomputer: Coal alert.
hikukomoru: If you want to die in a nuclear war that's fine
Just don't drag me down with you lot
joaoluz19: Gigachad
hikukomoru: I'm the opposite of moralistic
I just value my own existance
fractalcomputer: Couldn't be me.
fractalcomputer: Moralistic untermensch.
zoermena: Imagine getting payed 6 figures to schizorant.
hikukomoru: Ermmm dying is bad actually
joaoluz19: It's become a joke at this point, the chance of the next post being about security
fractalcomputer: It's supposed to be about the axiomatisation of utilitarian calculus in an infinite universe.
fractalcomputer: I mean, the head of Anthropic's interpretability team or something like that wrote a 600 page thesis on fucking "infinite ethics".
fractalcomputer: Modern ethics is also a bit nonsensical.
joaoluz19: Agree
fractalcomputer: It'd be a bit boring if the good were not also the beautiful, eh.
okbut: Agree
joaoluz19: Morality has an aesthetic criterion
okbut: Ethics entirely? Or its current direction
joaoluz19: It's over
fractalcomputer: No.
joaoluz19: Does Machine God work?
fractalcomputer: Good.
fractalcomputer: Does it involve numbers and God?
joaoluz19: I will commit Seppuku, don't worry
joaoluz19: I thought it might suit your taste in mathematics too.
joaoluz19: This is from the actual chief AGI scientist of Deepmind
joaoluz19: But Kolmogorov fascinates me, even what I'm seeing now about ASI is more abstract than applicable, but obviously I have the desire to find applications.
zoermena: The tallest mountain in Denmark 👍
okbut: The more infantile its appearance the more sympathy we have
fractalcomputer: Say, do you happen to know a high cliff nearby?
joaoluz19: I'm cooked
fractalcomputer: Yes. Unless you're going Kolmogorov's route.
joaoluz19: I'm going to start studying statistics, does that count as applied mathematics? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: Which is why I also largely consider ethics ridiculous.
joaoluz19: But it's true, we don't consider all the ethical possibilities in our actions, for example... do we cause harm to ants if they process pain? It's not even that it's really unethical to step on them, but if we don't even stop to think about this and millions of other variants, we'll explode.
fractalcomputer: Maybe applied mathematicians shouldn't be thrown off particularly high cliffs; maybe we'll really have an AGI of delicate craftsmanship from OpenAI or whatever in the next two years.
fractalcomputer: Well, I shouldn't be above entertaining the possibility that I might be wrong.
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hey1_1hey: Oh I mean that happnes with all AIs no? Its just the context window being capped out
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-looking-away-gif-26704349
joaoluz19: It's in Portuguese, It only happens after talking a lot
sarik0497: I'm genuinely curious how many people's predictions has been pushed back now (as I know some around here had some really bullish predicts mid-to-late 24) <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482>
hey1_1hey: It makes youtue commetns look like exlusivly hardvard grads post
hey1_1hey: I think think its even a competetion
hey1_1hey: Twitter is the wild west of social medias
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: Got an example?
hey1_1hey: If thats what you were thinking
hey1_1hey: I wasn't going to post it dw
sarik0497: Don't even think about it
joaoluz19: 4o is already very good but sometimes it gets into loops
sarik0497: Yeah, no.
hey1_1hey: I saw AI deepfaked ilya porn the other day on xitter
hey1_1hey: 4o is vibey enough for me. I just want answers
joaoluz19: Lets gooooo
sarik0497: Fractal is asleep, so <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
sarik0497: Still waiting for Ilya to pull his big ~~dick~~ model out
joaoluz19: Worse still, I was enjoying the vibe with GPT.
hey1_1hey: They better not pull a gpt 4.5 and said its "vibey"
hikukomoru: ?
hey1_1hey: Don't. You'll jinx it
okbut: I wish all these companies would ditch the whole "low high pro" naming scheme and go with McDonald's meals
"GPT-5-S
GPT-5-M
GPT-5-L
GPT-5-Supersize-Me"
sarik0497: You or SSI.
sarik0497: Anthrotopic, please guide us.
hey1_1hey: "Make ASCII art of me and you have hot mouth kissing togother"
joaoluz19: Yes
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/tired-sad-over-it-done-gif-22047087
hikukomoru: No blackpilling
Only blueballing
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: *Scores only marginally better on benchmarks compared to 4.5*
sarik0497: "Can I fuck you yet?"
hey1_1hey: "How do I find love" <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
sarik0497: "And we have all concluded that the one who should ask the question will be....oh god, how did MichMach win?!"
hey1_1hey: ChatGPT 5 Plus Pro Max Ultra Supreme Deluxe AI Hyper-Intelligent Neural Quantum Thinking Edition
hikukomoru: AGI is only for billionaires and companies
okbut: Yeah if they had anything worthy they would be showcasing it along with its 2 years of wait
joaoluz19: True lol, they have b2b plans
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hey1_1hey: I am welsh
hey1_1hey: Nop
.wolfnacht: you!
hikukomoru: Uh oh
futurist_wizard: All speak English
futurist_wizard: Same with finnish
hey1_1hey: Take a guess <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: en fait je sais pas ce que je voulaisdire avec ma premiere phrase lol
hikukomoru: Why would anyone ever learn swedish
futurist_wizard: Swedes all speak English
.wolfnacht: wait! if everyone's here european, then who's american ?
futurist_wizard: Tried to learn swedish, but that is literally the most worthless language ever
hey1_1hey: I could smoke weed every day
Roll on the weekends
Drink every other day
Then smoke up some pink on sundays
hikukomoru: Tu eres un gordo
wellmeaningalien: bah c'est pas comme l'anglais non? et puis tu veux qu'on fasse quoi, les americains ils ont pas resistés lorse que les italiens ont rendu courgette "zucchini"
hikukomoru: After years of taking spanish classes I still don't know anything
futurist_wizard: Threw it in the trash afterwards
futurist_wizard: Took spanish in high school
hey1_1hey: I could be a lot more retarded if I wanted to
.wolfnacht: finally found it. <@458069236825194506>
wellmeaningalien: almost same vocab
hikukomoru: Doesn't really look like it's working
wellmeaningalien: same conjugation
wellmeaningalien: actually spanish was pretty easy its just like the same grammatical rule but you swap the letters out
fractalcomputer: C'est assez intéressant que les jeunes générations francophones hésitent à utiliser des mots comme gaieté ou n'importe quelle de ses variations dans le dictionnaire à cause d'influence anglophone.
hikukomoru: French classes were such a pain in the ass
I switched to Spanish because it was so much easier, especially the grammar compared to french
futurist_wizard:
_cloudost: 🐦⬛
hey1_1hey: I already have enough debuffs
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pakistan-gif-8238298
wellmeaningalien: so i hear but i think like french is so distant from everything else nobody can fucking understand us lol
hey1_1hey: I like to keep my brain in tact for the most part
hey1_1hey: No
.wolfnacht: britard*
wellmeaningalien: 🤮 🇬🇧 👎
futurist_wizard: Do you take any
hikukomoru: I feel like portuguese people can easily understand other latin languages
But others can't understand ours at all
wellmeaningalien: kindest britoid ever
hey1_1hey: I am defo on a watchlist after that stiny
hey1_1hey: I unirocnally had a massive thing for drugs a while back. I researched a bunch about them, dosage, how they were synthesised, what makes them deadly, classes etc etc
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.wolfnacht: not even that, LLMs would have made life easier to make me understand every concept....unfortunately i delved into depression in high-school and had to downgrade from medical to straight humanities bcz i wasn't able to keep up.
hey1_1hey: No memory either
hey1_1hey: Absolutly no critical thinking skills
hey1_1hey: Thats crazy, If I get any less than 6 hours I will be a literal lobotimite for the rest of the day
futurist_wizard: I never skip sleep
oooooooooog: yeah, as long as u don't accidentally take a nap it's fine in my experience
futurist_wizard: No i didn't even get it till today
hikukomoru: When I skip sleep I'm still fine after not sleeping for a day
st.sioux: gpt3.5 released like 3-4 months before i graduated college it sucks lol
spicy.lemonade: Rubin and Feynman def for asi
spicy.lemonade: Blackwell will most likely be the gpu of agi
spicy.lemonade: Of gpu
spicy.lemonade: Bro think, nvidia still has 3 more gens
hey1_1hey: He would seethe hearing you say that
.wolfnacht: everyone's mind wired a bit differently
hey1_1hey: I gotta get your ass on the Bryan Johnson pipe line
hey1_1hey: Of course chatgpt releasess the literal nanosecond I graduate high school
oooooooooog: not enough to hallucinate or get delirious, thats for sure
oooooooooog: it's not really that much, at least
hey1_1hey: "24 hours". Thats not sleep deprevation?
.wolfnacht: same...i wish we had even had gpt 3.5 in lockdown, i would be getting scoring 99% in high school.
hey1_1hey: I do this weird thing with maths I've noticed where If I keep repeating the first step of the problem in my head I will suddenly get the answer and write it down. I have no clue how it works tho
hikukomoru: Did you stay up all night generating images with 4o
oooooooooog: it wasn't sleep deprivation, it was more just that i had passed out and then woke up again, i think
.wolfnacht: to think for me in present moment
hikukomoru: FDVR Gulag 🔥 🔥
.wolfnacht: dats why i need AI
.wolfnacht: i wish my prefrontal cortex was better (i get stuck during arguments alot) unfortunately my subconcious does all the heavy lifting, literally my problems get solved during daydreaming or dreams.
hey1_1hey: BJ (bryan johnson) will not be happy
futurist_wizard: The singularity will remove eepy
hey1_1hey: Sleep deprevaiation moment
ailoveyoom: Idk why but I'm kinda surprised this came from Google
futurist_wizard: Im feeling extra eepy today
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Talk about "Back in my day" vibes 😭. In lockdown I just talked to my friends and did not do any work
st.sioux: straight to the gulag
futurist_wizard: Constant stream of delusions
hikukomoru: I always believed you 👆
fractalcomputer: This can hardly be attributed as a specific prediction of yours.
oooooooooog: well, i was laying down in bed and kept seeing dots on my ceiling and thought that was the mana gathering, i had just stayed up like 24 hours reading a bunch of shitty manhwas, that's why
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otub: <@750270494615404544> https://fixupx.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1915806748515917900
drewsni: these people have no clue how outclassed they are
trent_k: hahaha
trent_k: wonder if i could upload a bait one with a phone number that they can call to request removal
drewsni: or maybe project gutenburg, either way
drewsni: its bait btw dont click accept
drewsni: someone uploaded the age of empires 3 manual with the dataset viewer turned off to bait people
trent_k: hahaha nice
drewsni: https://huggingface.co/datasets/Chat-Error/archiveofourown-newest
drewsni: btw i know multiple people who have much earlier scrapes of ao3 so likely even newer locked ones have been scraped for quite some time
hikukomoru: <@1068159407671754824>
trojan09205: Enemy - w jake gyllenhall
trojan09205: Im watching an insane movie
himekokatagiri: though I prefer the SV/SB quests
himekokatagiri: idk I think AO3 has decent madoka fics
hikukomoru: Oh this guys writes Baldur's Gate rape fics
trent_k: since theyre all leaving their usernames ive been looking up what they write
trent_k: yes
hikukomoru: I see you left a comment
drewsni: oh yeah ill just go do this
trent_k: he also seemed to misunderstand what the journalist was asking him in that thread and responded hostile af
trent_k: lmao
trent_k: and wants to lecture archivists about morality
trent_k: this guy writes rape fanfics
trent_k: https://huggingface.co/datasets/nyuuzyou/archiveofourown/discussions/154
trent_k: bro the funniest one yet
hikukomoru: I think that one was obvious babe
memlaswaif: I think they r transgender
anathemaofmankind: The dataset actually got disabled?
This is sad
hikukomoru: No, the Iberian profile is the archaic hominid type
anathemaofmankind: Because that's totally a femcel
anathemaofmankind: You mean conventionally attractive girls who want the attention of lonely men
hikukomoru: The ones that post thirst traps on twitter
hikukomoru: Fine, ironic femcels then
himekokatagiri: I've gotten the fear by looking at this photo
himekokatagiri: <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
anathemaofmankind: This is what a real femcel looks like
anathemaofmankind: <@505313122802728972>
himekokatagiri: <:Alan:1136264610161365003>
hikukomoru: Get yourself checked out
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zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: I don't think it's necessarily low intelligence, many on the code subs do it too
st.sioux: i think more than bottom 50% of coders being gone, entry-level jobs will now start at mid-level, like the barrier will shift upwards but not by much, maybe 3-4 yoe
brain4brain: These people show signs of low intelligence, only thinking everything will stay the same and not change
zonchao: they have always been loud, even when it was shit during dalle days and none of them thought it'll improve
metaldragon01: Ofc
brain4brain: Only a matter of time
spicy.lemonade: 4o still has kinks
brain4brain: https://x.com/dimitrispapail/status/1906524049053827289?s=61
metaldragon01: Ai still can't edit super well
spicy.lemonade: unless its for game dev/animation
metaldragon01: They are loud because they see what's coming
spicy.lemonade: anyone who does freelance art is cooked
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
metaldragon01: Let the artist grieve lol
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: Bottom 50% gone
spicy.lemonade: wasnt banned
spicy.lemonade: I got the most likes on my Ai art
metaldragon01: Same for coders
st.sioux: thats what i said and someone here called me a retard
spicy.lemonade: have been wiped out
spicy.lemonade: the bottom 50% of artists
spicy.lemonade: no they arent
zonchao: <@471334973379706900> what happened to your art server thing
metaldragon01: It's not a scam if the client gets what they want
brain4brain: So nothing change really
brain4brain: The actual good artist aren’t cook, the bad artist weren’t commissioned in the first place
st.sioux: comission artists are going to start scamming people with AI tho
metaldragon01: Some are but a lot aren't
metaldragon01: They aren't cooked
zonchao: i think the commission artists are cooked, the prompt adherence is insane in 4o
brain4brain: Another word for being annoying
zonchao: "Actors can be replaced together"
-tom homan
metaldragon01: Artists are safe today
brain4brain: Oh wow, they have nothing against AI that work anymore so they are now attacking the user themselves, if I have to guess these “people” likely participated in burning Tesla, they are not people, they are criminals
spicy.lemonade: coders are safe today so they are allowed to be in denial
st.sioux: they already did the sag strike
metaldragon01: But it will
spicy.lemonade: cont replace coders yet
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literallyvarane: 2.5 pro
trent_k: ohhhhh step-video what are you doing
st.sioux: whats nebula?
metaldragon01: Nebula confirmed
literallyvarane: Cancel the singularity
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sundarpichai/status/1904575384466710607
literallyvarane: We cooked
clevermoniker: https://fixupx.com/StepFun_ai/status/1904545620360319418
New open source video model
drewsni:
literallyvarane: Normally that’s there they place the context limits tho
st.sioux: like they dont care just do whatever as long as its within the requests
st.sioux: for all lengths
st.sioux: like its free
st.sioux: doesnt it mean pricing
metaldragon01: It's goood
literallyvarane: Maybe, but the fact it says “10k lines of Code” implies a limit tbh.
hikukomoru: I have it too
Think everyone has it now
drewsni: from here forward, no model will have a context length
drewsni: there is no more context lengths
literallyvarane: Need them benches
literallyvarane: Waiting for the blog tbh
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/friday-ice-cube-it-was-a-good-day-good-day-nod-gif-4301739
st.sioux: me too
literallyvarane: So at least 1M I assume
literallyvarane: “All context lengths”
literallyvarane: Was just going to post that
metaldragon01: I have access
metaldragon01:
zonchao: nice
zonchao: https://x.com/sundarpichai/status/1904575384466710607?t=C-zhCmCNdP0B8xMOMvxcMA&s=19
zonchao: lmao
clevermoniker: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1904561688134967357?s=61
metaldragon01: Post in bard. Logan looks there
spicy.lemonade: wont get any views on twitter
spicy.lemonade: gonna post on reddit
shirethedreamer: i was just making fun of google for astra lmao
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593
metaldragon01: Post the bug on Twitter
memlaswaif: <:cutethink:708400862833410079>
spicy.lemonade: same error
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otub: accelerate
otub:
mihrcelium: <:fg_joeuhok:1154875524393472030>
mihrcelium: Posted already?
mihrcelium: https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/the-real-story-behind-sam-altman-firing-from-openai-efd51a5d
zoermena: Real talk there!
technocake.: yeah he really does
mihrcelium: <:02S_SideEye:1275173727780474880>
alejandrozarzuelo: they are unconfortable
mihrcelium: Why don't you wear belts?
alejandrozarzuelo: at this rate you'll know my entire wardrobe
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont wear belts but thats nitcpicking
alejandrozarzuelo: thats more me haha
mihrcelium:
futurist_wizard: In the uk that hair type is very rare
wellmeaningalien: ok ill be honest i dont know if this one is ai generated or not but i think so
hikukomoru: Yeah
futurist_wizard: Oh you mean Portuguese
alejandrozarzuelo: <@200624453795708928> can confirm i have great hair
hikukomoru: Wtf do you mean how I knwo
futurist_wizard: How do you know that?
hikukomoru: Bro is not special
wellmeaningalien: hive moderation
hikukomoru: Every other guy here has hair like that
futurist_wizard: Its nice hair also
futurist_wizard: I will give him that
futurist_wizard: His hair is unique i guess
hikukomoru: What site?
hikukomoru: He's so vain
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o lol
alejandrozarzuelo: i have shared both my IRL pics and my ghiblified ones
hikukomoru: He's already posted his Ghibli like hundreds of times
technocake.: you are allowed to ghiblify for anonymity
technocake.: hair pics or gtfo
hikukomoru: Gay men are usually like that
futurist_wizard: You love talking bout your hair
spicy.lemonade: Thought bro posted a random ad
hikukomoru: A few white wisps dont count
hikukomoru: I wouldn't really call it "hair"
wellmeaningalien: i saw it i didnt get the impression it was particularly long
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darkstar0818:
okbut: The true test is underlying
The go-getters give it a go
That's what I want from my AGI
darkstar0818: here we go
darkstar0818:
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/9TAd.gif
spicy.lemonade: people will skip
spicy.lemonade: like if a teacher tells you the last question on the final no one has every solved
darkstar0818:
spicy.lemonade: it just wont go through with it
spicy.lemonade: and suggest other ways
spicy.lemonade: it can accurratly explain how people have tried to solve
darkstar0818: lol
spicy.lemonade: but it doesnt have no clue
st.sioux: but what if he had a jetpack
darkstar0818: any response other than this is just retarded
darkstar0818: If you have no clue how to do something someone asks you to do the most honest response is 'Here is what I do know, here is what I don't know'
spicy.lemonade: all the llm needs is text\
darkstar0818: it is
zoermena: In theory I would just use my body
spicy.lemonade: its not the same tho
zoermena: I can do it in a lucid dream
darkstar0818: I said just your body
spicy.lemonade: like idk i had a jetpack on me
darkstar0818: If you instead started spewing some random brain leakings on me I would get concerned.
spicy.lemonade: i just never tried
spicy.lemonade: if i had the capability to
spicy.lemonade: i mean the equivalent would be
zoermena: I can “do it”
darkstar0818: Hopefully it sounds something like 'I wouldn't know how to begin, I cannot do that'
darkstar0818: If I ask you to fly to the moon with just your body what will you tell me?
st.sioux: literally me
darkstar0818: lol
spicy.lemonade: it says "im sorry i cant, many have tried"
spicy.lemonade: if you ask it to try and solve a famous unsolved problem
zoermena: Include it in the prompt
spicy.lemonade: imo
darkstar0818: What is my take away from this?
spicy.lemonade: they need to fix the refusal
spicy.lemonade: I hate this
darkstar0818:
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spicy.lemonade: 99% chance
spicy.lemonade: very likeley thursday
spicy.lemonade: and that o3 and o4mini comming very soon
spicy.lemonade: and they are starting off monday
literallyvarane:
spicy.lemonade: sam said this week total will be a big week
gamerbath: but OAI hasn't said anything
spicy.lemonade: o3 o4mini
gamerbath: o4-mini? how do you know it's thursday?
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/yuyuko-touhou-fumo-fumo-plush-yuyuko-saigyouji-yuyu-bath-gif-24163441
a1c4p0ne:
_3sphere: huh?
gamerbath: thursday is that big of a deal?
spicy.lemonade: literally the day that will make/break timelines
spicy.lemonade: to thursday
st.sioux: i just paste it
spicy.lemonade: i wish i could skip time
st.sioux: its still working for me
spicy.lemonade: nice
gamerbath: new images library in chatgpt. it's just a tab with all your images
literallyvarane: How are you suppose to do it? Because I 10000% did that before and it worked.
wellmeaningalien: i think openai made up a bunch of vague shit
wellmeaningalien: hello im here to see mr agi
literallyvarane: 4 is the natural progression of creativity and intelligence.
5 is the natural progression of reliability, hallucination reduction and robustness.
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gokussj3-ssj3-gokuss3-dbz-gif-6423143817581122789
st.sioux: think 1 guy doing 10 things vs 10 guys doing 1 thing
a1c4p0ne: you did it wrong
literallyvarane: This is kinda my point tbh.
I don’t think it’s *impossible* that current models, with enough scaffolding, could replace a lot of misc companies wholesale.
Honestly I think 4 and 5 are extensions of two different questions.
st.sioux: yea
st.sioux: companies that don't require physical interaction with the world will be relatively easy
.histic: oh yeah, physical jobs would be hard too lol
need robotics for that.
3ds0662: I hope so, sama has to serve it else he's just doing monetary favoritism
.histic: like what if those companies work complexity is quite shallow? unless it's automating a company that is a research lab, then yeah.
st.sioux: could there be any possibility that they add the level 4 AI to the API? like pay $500 instead of $20000 for like 8 hours or some shit
.histic: new science
if it's truly groundbreaking or innovative new science
literallyvarane: I think those are just two different questions, not two consecutive ones
3ds0662: tf is this 20k plan shit lol
3ds0662: I thought it was going to create new millionaires
3ds0662: I guess the singularity will just eat the poor lol
literallyvarane: Which… is it harder for AI to replace a multiple companies, or invent new science? 🧫
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numbah_1_nig: it's so cool
numbah_1_nig: man i love the studio ghibli pictures thing
darkstar0818: Agreed, but LLM prompt based UIs isn't the place to solve that. Right now they are just trying to get the thinking to be as powerful as possible. Our complaints will be solved by the agentic frameworks where we can start interacting with these AI as employees. I feel your pain, but the reality is you and I won't be caring about particular functions let alone lines of code in two years.. so might as well get used to it.
drewsni: Yes but I have an abundance of tools that do the job better without a system prompt change so I’ll just use those
darkstar0818: Likely fixable with a system prompt or minor RL before full release.
drewsni: I noticed that too, seemed kinda weird that it was recommended fixes in comments
st.sioux: what i do hate abotu 2.5 is that it adds random comments all accross the code
st.sioux: i am the problem 😢
st.sioux: lol i tell it to give it to me so i can just copy and paste it
drewsni: And “no give me the whole code even though I only have 1 line changed in 1 function” people
drewsni: I blame vibe coding people
drewsni: AI for sure is definitely a better coder than I am, but it’s not better at knowing what I actually want or what my end goal is, even when I explicitly say. The computer should always listen to the user within reason
drewsni: Not really.
spicy.lemonade: And find the sport to put it in
st.sioux: this is a good thing bro
spicy.lemonade: To get a piece of code it generates
spicy.lemonade: But at the same time I’m too lazy
spicy.lemonade: I don’t want it to generate the whole code over
drewsni: It feels like Google engineer forcing me to adhere to Google best practices no matter what, even if I ask for something stupidly simple
spicy.lemonade: There needs to be a cursor type thing where AI only changes necessary parts
drewsni: I know everyone likes Google models now but there’s something frustrating about every time I’ve tried to code with Google models that I can’t explain
drewsni: That was literally my only 2.5 query I just switched back to 3.7
drewsni: It didn’t run so I didn’t really bother but I think it was mainly making the gui better
.histic: i tested it and o3-mini-high appears to adhere to the line count better than 2.5 pro. both models perform poorly overall, with their accuracy declining as the number of lines increases.
.histic: how strict is the code line limit? for example, if you ask for less than 300 lines of code, how closely does the output follow that? usually LLMs tend to struggle with accurately adhering to that.
aero447: Blessed.
aero447:
ailoveyoom: What did it do in the other 1000 lines lol
drewsni: “Hey can you turn on search grounding for my 2.5 pro api use” that’s all I wanted.
drewsni: Which was annoying because I asked for a small change in a 900 line program lol
drewsni: Literally my first query was it outputting 1900 lines
.histic: the user
ailoveyoom: Who's a swallower then 🥺
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 fails hard
spicy.lemonade: o3 full got
spicy.lemonade: this is a competative programming problem at around the elo
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro is def on o3 full leverl
.histic: it's a spitter.
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Gemmy on AI Studio
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himekokatagiri: like if it sucks
himekokatagiri: GPT-5 will set the scene
spicy.lemonade: but rsi
himekokatagiri: no I mean
spicy.lemonade: not agi
spicy.lemonade: but eoy theyl have internal phd research agents
spicy.lemonade: will be mid year
spicy.lemonade: and overall
spicy.lemonade: no agi this year
spicy.lemonade: according to ai 2027
himekokatagiri: GPT-5 will seal the deal
himekokatagiri: I think it's too early
brain4brain: End of 2025 at the earliest, end of 2026 at the lastest
a1c4p0ne:
brain4brain: Ah
spicy.lemonade: thats the joke
brain4brain: That doesn’t make sense
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-24-25-gif-13595902
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016
spicy.lemonade: Move 38<:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Move 37
brain4brain: Wow, it is real, the thumbnail and clickbait title is just too AI and insane for me
Wow, this is incredible
https://mpl.mpg.de/news/article/ai-finds-new-ways-to-observe-the-most-extreme-events-in-the-universe
a1c4p0ne: It’s real
brain4brain: I don’t really like Demis’s timeline, he is always jumping between 3 years (2027) and 10 years (2035)
a1c4p0ne: https://scitechdaily.com/when-machines-dream-ai-designs-strange-new-tools-to-listen-to-the-cosmos/
brain4brain: Why does this looks so fake bro
spicy.lemonade: he talks about ttc here
spicy.lemonade: he did
brain4brain: Thats 10 months ago, his timeline really depends on if he sees o1 internally at the time when he wrote situational awareness
spicy.lemonade: from there
spicy.lemonade: its anyones game
spicy.lemonade: 2027+
spicy.lemonade: agreed
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: No AGI this year or next year
spicy.lemonade: late 2027<:redemption:1136265386984222771>
himekokatagiri: I agree with the 2029-30 timeline
spicy.lemonade: demis shortened his timelines
spicy.lemonade: "BY 2030"
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drewsni: There’s a threshold for me, if you’re spending over 10k and you can’t do real science, don’t even bother trying to report results, and definitely don’t try to report them as scientifically sound
drewsni: Before I thought he was quirky and it was a lot of just people having fun. But after I’ve ready some of his “studies” (experiments) I’m kinda mad that he’s a rich as fuck dude who knows better and can easily spend slightly more to run real experiments that have actual scientific value
ldj: what was your stance before and after
.histic:
otub: never paid tho
otub: ive been feeding openai my data since dec 2022
.histic: i'm surprised.
ChatGPT is like 2.5 years old now.
clevermoniker: i support open source
clevermoniker: no
clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
.histic: wait, you never created a chatgpt account ever?
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
clevermoniker: not anymore, with these queues
.histic: finally?
clevermoniker: literally just make a queue
clevermoniker: that's within the 3 you have daily? fuck
clevermoniker: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
otub: > I wasn't able to generate the image because of rate limits on image generation. You’ll need to wait about 35 minutes before trying again.
otub: i just got this after the 2nd attempt
clevermoniker: i guess its finally time for me to create a chatgpt account...
otub: and theres a rate limit
otub: 3
clevermoniker: how many a day?
otub: <:HP_smile:1249765744833462296>
otub: https://x.com/sama/status/1906867488320843823
futurist_wizard: The future
oooooooooog: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400740881709400065/1250820189805609113/image0.gif
jonvi_1: You’ve listed four specific years — 2019, 2023, 2024, and 2025 — and these, taken as discrete points in time, do indeed amount to four individual years. However, if someone is referencing a continuous timespan from 2019 to 2025, that would encompass seven calendar years in total.
So the interpretation hinges on whether the focus is on the count of listed years, or the duration they span. Would you like to explore this further in a specific context?
jonvi_1: certainly! Lets delve deeper into this
jonvi_1: hmm
frittata: 2019, 2023, 2024, 2025 that’s four years max
frittata: How do you figure
jonvi_1: heh
jonvi_1: 2019 was 6 years ago
frittata: However it’s doubtful they will
frittata: Although! If they could do a better job compromising their ideals and polishing their pitch to encompass the mainstream critiques of AI in seeing more and more these days, they could conceivably have a real movement on their hands
frittata: Anyway regardless, it won’t really work because they don’t want to refine away the worst abuses of AI they want to stop it altogether
frittata: Just not a strategist
frittata: Idk that main guy, J—- M—— can’t remember his name, is pretty appealing and humane
frittata: Perhaps so
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neon01197: prob, but i dont have access <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: Honeslty this is bigger than gpt 4.5
ailoveyoom: Now for Sora to do it 🥺
hey1_1hey: Can it make hitler and stalin kiss 👉 👈
neon01197: fuuck they cooked man
_cloudost: zon has access ?
hey1_1hey: I think Im either having a stroke or someone is burning playdo
neon01197: kek
clevermoniker: Woah! It does anime so well! ||jk <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ||
_cloudost: image gen?
_cloudost: who has access to the model
maintcrew: classic singulartards
hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> can you change your pfp to a pidgeon in a suit 🙏
maintcrew: chat is getting excited over a good but useless openai feature while crazy google model dropped
drewsni: holy fuck
drewsni:
hey1_1hey: Zon get your ass over here
hey1_1hey: He should do that
joaoluz19:
literallyvarane: This a grade 7 violation ngl
_cloudost: full 4o today?
hikukomoru: Idk it just decided Zon Chao has a pidgeon in a suit pfp
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: what am i supposed to say
gamerbath: wait it's 4o? the thought crossed my mind, but it's not fully out
spicy.lemonade: bro
neon01197: will it roll out to free user?
st.sioux: didnt work
st.sioux: i havent got it yet
hey1_1hey: This is just a screenshot, did it not work or did you not get it yet?
hey1_1hey: Someone explain the reference
spicy.lemonade: holy shit
hikukomoru: PIGEON IN A SUIT
joaoluz19: Someone had acess to the 4o image gen?
spicy.lemonade: I THOUGHT THAT WAS A SCREENSHOT
spicy.lemonade: I WAS CONFUSED
hey1_1hey: Zon you just got public excecated
spicy.lemonade: WHT THE FUCK
st.sioux:
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hey1_1hey: Lvl 100, top of the game
wellmeaningalien: 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯
wellmeaningalien: ur dad a diddy diddler bro im afraid..
hey1_1hey: He*
hey1_1hey: She was always like this
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-epstein-loypoll-ohio-rizz-elephant-fortnite-go-goated-gif-10207147976873428864
hey1_1hey: Dad?
wellmeaningalien: komorus gone full mask off epstein mode
wellmeaningalien: oh hell nahhhhhh
wellmeaningalien: busy watching edgerunners anyway
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/epstein-jeffrey-epstein-j-jeffrey-sigma-gif-405083941180536765
wellmeaningalien: you can go watch it for yourself ty
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cupcake-edp445-gif-23368209
wellmeaningalien: ?
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972>
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/quayuh-quailand-pigeon-ai-pigeon-brainrot-gif-9823304678825196569
hey1_1hey: The younger the better as Komoru always says
hikukomoru: We can watch the invicibles
wellmeaningalien: you strike me as 4 years younger
hikukomoru: Yeah
hey1_1hey: Lets go with 14
hey1_1hey: 18, but sure
wellmeaningalien: is he
hey1_1hey: I audibily cackled when I read that
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀
hey1_1hey: This
wellmeaningalien: nightmare blunt rotation
hey1_1hey: Don't throw stones from glass houses
hikukomoru: Do u want to smoke a blunt w me
hey1_1hey: R.I.P jimmy jangers
memlaswaif: dont do drugs kids
hey1_1hey: Don't get me started on jimmy jangers III... Doing drugs at 12 is mental
hikukomoru: Dude you're 14
Doing drugs at that age...
hey1_1hey: Read the room Komoru jeez
hey1_1hey: Why do you think my profile picture has a coke brick in it huh?
wellmeaningalien: noooo haha he isnt jkkk unless
hey1_1hey: Yeah, why?
hey1_1hey: Theres a lot of overlap
hikukomoru: Are you a drug addict <@439829942310666250>
hey1_1hey: I'll have you know I am not a tweaker. I am just dumb as bricks
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alejandrozarzuelo: they were a different branch of orthodoxy
fractalcomputer: The Russians did share religious continuity with the Byzantines who were *Romans*.
alejandrozarzuelo: sure but neither did the ottomans or the russians and yet they still claimed the title
popsiclejohnithan: I try to act like a know it all because it makes me feel superiour.
fractalcomputer: It does not maintain religious continuity.
popsiclejohnithan: You're right i'm dumb.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-gif-5023039
precariousworlds.: france was a feudal shithole until the revolution, then became a cringe commie larp, then locked in for a few decades, and afterwards lost all relevance while desperately larping as still a great power
alejandrozarzuelo: If you think about it, the EU has the strongest claim to being the new rome than almost anyone
1) - It contains Rome (very important)
2) - Has a Senate
3) - It is multicultural
4) - It is built on trade
futurist_wizard: If any really
futurist_wizard: Average human couldn't understand it
popsiclejohnithan: Probably to be fair.
fractalcomputer: In the end, we all know that Helsinki is the Fourth Rome.
futurist_wizard: What if they are all in a giant computer transversing dimensions, just totally beyond us
alejandrozarzuelo: lmao
alejandrozarzuelo: the modern world was built by the french and exploited by the british
i mean thats all in the past, but still
precariousworlds.: french revolution was an export of english political culture, and then became a weird perverted mutation of it
froggies been bitching since agincourt 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️
fractalcomputer: Parce que l'orthographe plaît les yeux civilisés.
futurist_wizard: The modern world belongs to the British
alejandrozarzuelo: eh, pq
fractalcomputer: Tu devrais écrire mieux.
alejandrozarzuelo: the modern world wasnt created by the british, if you need to give the title to an early modern civilization it would be France
precariousworlds.: romans were legendary but equally interesting were the early Islamic caliphates, Persian Empire, entirety of Chinese civilisation, Mongols, the fucking Spanish Empire come on, Mughals, Aztecs, Incas
popsiclejohnithan: I'm sure they would be smart enough to dumb it down to our level.
alejandrozarzuelo: hon hon hon vive la revolution!
alejandrozarzuelo: Je pense que tu t'oublies de qui a reelement creé le monde moderne
futurist_wizard: Alien politics would be too alien to us, it wouldn't make sense to us on any level, even if an alien actually came down and tried to explain it to us
precariousworlds.: 🏴
precariousworlds.: Used to be really into Roman history but people sometimes overvalue it
Most real breakthroughs in philosophy, political organisation, science occurred in Greece. The real triumph of Rome was that it managed to export and apply these ideas on a mass scale. It's insanely impressive how the Romans formed a state-like entity with regulated borders and governance over such a massive and diverse region. So impressive that the memory of Rome dominated European identity until the 1500s, and stories of the power of Rome spread throughout the known world (even fucking Tibet adopted the title 'Caesar' for a great king)
However there should be more emphasis in western history placed on early modern England imo. From 1688 - late 1800s England basically singlehandedly built the entirety of modern civilisation, from scratch. The U.S. is basically just the continuation of the English enlightenment of the 18th Century, that moved across the Atlantic. This is the real legacy that I think more people should look to
But as for aesthetics it would be cool for more classical Roman architecture and symbolism to be adopted in the EU, as a successor state.
popsiclejohnithan: If it would even be politics by then.
popsiclejohnithan: I actually wonder how politics would work on a galactic scale.
alejandrozarzuelo: in a good scifi setting they can be very interesting and completely differnt from modern geopolitcs and politics
futurist_wizard: Do you mean mexican illegal alien politics? That's quite interesting
futurist_wizard: NOTHING
futurist_wizard: Alien politics consist of...
alejandrozarzuelo: ive decided that you are a boring person
futurist_wizard: Even worse...
alejandrozarzuelo: what about alien geopolitcs? thats gotta be interesting to you
popsiclejohnithan: If you don't learn from History, you're doomed to repeat it.
futurist_wizard: I'm not interested in empires and the rise and fall of them, it's just not very relevant to the here and now, imo
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zonchao: 10x of what
aero447: They are not in Google's position sadly.
aero447: It will take time to 10x their compute.
aero447: Because they don't have that?
aero447: ?
st.sioux: this is pretty bad ngl
zonchao: <:bruhSit:1352251568539304040>
ldj: O3 is already scaled 1,000X more compute than O1-preview. Why do you think they can't do another 10X or 100X on top of that.
ldj: and why not <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: ??
777agical: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1914743830907380075?s=46
a1c4p0ne: 2 more to go
aero447: If o4 exists soon it won't be scaled 10x.
a1c4p0ne: Gemini got the 6th badge last night
aero447: Of course this means they can not do this again.
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/testingcatalog/status/1914740864976380109?s=46
sarik0497: So it seems like it’s not hitting diminishing returns yet. Very nice. <:POGGIES:776587427695034368>
ldj: Official slide released by OpenAI in the past few days:
ldj: OpenAI has now confirmed that O3 was trained on 10X compute of O1 🙂
_cloudost: become artificial
_cloudost: https://x.com/ViduAI_official/status/1914665500824502522
himekokatagiri: deepseek team sailing to the high seas to get their model done in time
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvdrCPr3gDQ
777agical: something coming out later might eclipse something coming out sooner <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
and gpt5 won't be open sourced
3ds0662: deepseeks going to be eclipsed by gpt-5 release if they hold out
st.sioux: may is inclusive
st.sioux: lol
3ds0662: and may is in like 1-2 weeks
777agical: and
3ds0662: its already the end of april
777agical: they said r2 april/may timeframe
3ds0662: ill give them another month
3ds0662: I guess o3 and gemini 2.5 pro level is harder to crack than expected
3ds0662: even though they released deepseek v3 base model last month
3ds0662: no R2 release
3ds0662: wow deepseeks been silent
himekokatagiri: I don't wanna die 😨
himekokatagiri: but if we can't have sex aren't we gonna lose our mind!!!
_cloudost: all humans should be replaced with artificial life cuz humans are messing and destroying this world
_cloudost: as an antinatalist I dont mind.
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zonchao: how much
hey1_1hey: Would the fish die or get high
hey1_1hey: I wonder what would happen if I dumped up fentanyl into the ocean
zonchao: i got you
hey1_1hey: Thank you
hikukomoru: No
hey1_1hey: 👍
zonchao: okay
hey1_1hey: Got it ty
otub: 1 hour 15 mins
hey1_1hey: Can any of you munckins remind if the livestream is in 15 mins or an hour and 15 mins
theaiguy69420_89814: the validation process is crazy for each of the tasks
theaiguy69420_89814: I worked on VISTA
theaiguy69420_89814: https://scale.com/leaderboard
spicy.lemonade: You mean hle?
theaiguy69420_89814: i think scale evals is best still
theaiguy69420_89814: chatbot arena leaderboard is saturated as shit
theaiguy69420_89814: the market is going to explode
hey1_1hey: Yanno you guys are alright, I love you guys 🇨🇳
hey1_1hey: Nah its chilling im chilling im alright yanno
spicy.lemonade: Ai will solve a millennium problem next year
spicy.lemonade: I’m loving this year
zoermena: If true this could make or break the world paradigm, such intelligence has to be good enough to replace jobs
futurist_wizard: Wake up
hikukomoru: Competition's gonna make something cheaper anyways
hikukomoru: Damn, 20k
hey1_1hey: Feels like im dreaming innit
hey1_1hey: I feel really fnny rn. not stressed yanno just like ia m kinda high even though i havent taken anything its kinda nice yanno
spicy.lemonade: Not speculating anymore
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: I think this is the model where it can actually give us a good answer
spicy.lemonade: I wanna ask it to make Fdvr
spicy.lemonade: I need 20k guys
zoermena: If it’s true I could see how this could easily justify taking out a loan with the goal of striking rich
futurist_wizard: Black hole
forallhumanity: https://x.com/FirstSquawk/status/1911789771137188273
thedon7075: open ai have to deliver
thedon7075: lets hope so
spicy.lemonade: But this week will make it pass
spicy.lemonade: And in 2024 we saw a whole new paradigm
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retrerox: Like, A machine who cant sleep, and is able to perform research and discover us.
At some point humans will be the only limitant to AI
popsiclejohnithan: Utter blind hatred it's just depressing.
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly.
popsiclejohnithan: Or it's the Artists seetheing at even the thought of A.I.
retrerox: They dont see the bigger picture
popsiclejohnithan: Pretty much.
retrerox: https://tenor.com/view/turk-took-our-jobs-jerbs-gif-10165889
retrerox: Avg people see AI like this:
popsiclejohnithan: The world population that is.
popsiclejohnithan: Most people don't even know much about A.I. in general.
futurist_wizard: Most people do not see it that way
retrerox: I just ask him to modify the top rat and gave me that image
retrerox: i love the chat gpt option to mark stuffs to modifiy
retrerox: I ask for a rat reference sheet, it gave me plain text and then ask him to turn it into a image, this was the frist one
popsiclejohnithan: They made that? Bloody nice.
retrerox: Atm i have some joy and drop some stress by playing with AI
popsiclejohnithan: Nothing like civilisation as we know it.
popsiclejohnithan: I think the most realistic future isn't black white or grey, it's probably incomprehensible, something completely alien, not a dystopia or utopia but something else entirely, something not Human at all, somthing much much more.
retrerox: There is never a middle term, its either We live in a fantastic future or we live in a doom future.
retrerox: Futuristic movies tend to be either too optimistic or too evil in terms about ai
retrerox: Because base their perception on movies that said Computers are evil
popsiclejohnithan: To be fair it's literally the most important thing ever so they will try to keep them afloat, they are still going to struggle though definitely we are all going to need to tighten our belts.
popsiclejohnithan: It could also force them to make the models cheeper and more power effecient like deepseek as well.
futurist_wizard:
brain4brain: Economic collapse make government bail out company, more money funnel to AI lab
popsiclejohnithan: Really?
brain4brain: Chip isn’t effected by tariff
brain4brain: AI lab have infinite money glitch
brain4brain: It doesn’t effect anything
popsiclejohnithan: God i hope so.
brain4brain: We’ll reach it sooner
popsiclejohnithan: The economic crash will probs slow things down.
brain4brain: No
popsiclejohnithan: You think we'll actually be at that point by those years?
brain4brain: They took the based acceleration path of the essay for this video <:based:1136264604788473946>
popsiclejohnithan:
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242801811027398658/1351057716017106962/nod-cat-hyper.gif
nondescriptfaith: Alright man, just believe whatever makes you feel good I guess?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-i-don%27t-hear-you-gif-9558280472791987858
nondescriptfaith: <@299696315653423104> Honestly a lot of his critique doesn’t even make sense, the story has two different endings. I’d recommend you read it yourself
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retrerox: Well AI got it close enough
.histic: yes
oooooooooog: are you talking about the hit 1900's book, lolita
.histic: nah, just trollin'
.histic: a lolita 🤮
futurist_wizard: Thats the look they are going for
.histic: jk.. maybe.
.histic: that's a child
retrerox: my face when i accidentally cause another great depression.
futurist_wizard: Something ain't right about it
futurist_wizard: I hate this cosplayer
spacetimetsunami: What the fuck hahaha
retrerox: Ai couldnt replicate this
retrerox: Jk xd
retrerox: i have boobs but i dont think may atttrack people
retrerox: At this point thats just trying to clickbait younger genz'rs
.histic: boob advantage
retrerox: Once she is not in main page viewers will drop
retrerox: Most of her viewers are just because she is at the main page
retrerox: Is not ai ofc, but i just wanted to make a fun comment. might not be fun at all
.histic: yes.
in the next couple of weeks.
hikukomoru: Aren't they planning on releasing a reasoning model
.histic: LLama 4 is alright for a non-reasoning model. it's special in its own ways.
but it's quiet funny for a huge company like Meta to not even be ready to release a reasoning model.
brain4brain: The real reason Yann shit on LLM is because his own company LLM is shit and behind compared to every other company
wellmeaningalien: GOD
.histic: that's weird
.histic: she's fluctuating from 1.5k to 3k
st.sioux: her viewers cant use their hands to type
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> viewbots?
.histic: her chat is dead AF yet she has 3k viewers now!
.histic: wait..
.histic: yeah, she's definitely not AI.
just flesh.
wellmeaningalien: damn bro.
wellmeaningalien: who actually gets aroused by this
.histic: also, she has 2k viewers yet only has 18k followers.
wow
.histic: this doesn't feel AI.
technocake.: hes japanese
retrerox: Shall we make a poll if AI Sttreamers gonna make bigger boobs?
.histic: ooga booga
inferno0879: 🤤
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futurist_wizard: The eu would be further but they are in a state of self sabotage
alejandrozarzuelo: Sorry it's so funny that they have an o1 level ai
rayanquitplayin: I like that it’s a competition, it’ll fuel the advancement of the technology
alejandrozarzuelo: I am, I prefer the chinese system, but I don't like hegemons
futurist_wizard: Relax with the brazil
hikukomoru: Wtf Alehandro I thought you were a China simp
alejandrozarzuelo: Hopefully the EU and maybe Brazil? Can compete and also join the race as an equal
alejandrozarzuelo: I used to be anti US because of this but now that China is basically in parity, I prefer both of them to be neck and neck
rayanquitplayin: AI says America’s ahead but our debt is what concerns me
hikukomoru: Do you really want Trump and Elon to have AGI
futurist_wizard: I hope Switzerland wins the ai race
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't want either to dominate long term
alejandrozarzuelo: I hope both do it at the same time
hikukomoru: I hope China wins tbh
Because I don't want Trump to get AGI first
alejandrozarzuelo: Both will be tied for a while
futurist_wizard: I was fucking shocked when i found this out
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't think we can say that either will have a lead in the foreseeable future
rayanquitplayin: I also think China could be ahead, at least culturally, they’re really big on STEM
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: Damn, bro has low standards
futurist_wizard: And it can suck my cock
futurist_wizard: That paper was hype slop
alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly it's one of the most hyped, but less credible publications I've read recently
.wolfnacht: ig mitsubishi is about to put something out, i visited an mitsubishi jp article once 2 months ago...i can't manage to find that again.
alejandrozarzuelo: It is but everyone is taking about it
futurist_wizard: These tariffs are slowing down everyone
hikukomoru: It's no better than creative writing
hikukomoru: The 2027 paper is shit
alejandrozarzuelo: The 2027 paper thinks China will be behind the US for 6 months for the next 3 years, I don't think that's a good assumption to make
alejandrozarzuelo: In my opinion, China might even be ahead rn, we have to wait for R2 to drop to see if true or not
But it's clear that the US and China are now essentially tied
rayanquitplayin: China definitely has a lot of potential in the AI competition
futurist_wizard: I wish Switzerland owned the world
alejandrozarzuelo: Nothing that a good European socialist government can't fix
alejandrozarzuelo: It's just thay we have a much better welfare and services
alejandrozarzuelo: So it wouldn't be considered poor here
alejandrozarzuelo: In any casse, PR may be poor for US standards but it has a similar gdp ppp per capita to Spain
alejandrozarzuelo: Of course
alejandrozarzuelo: A foothold for an eventual reintegration of Cuba
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
hikukomoru: Hot girls
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zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: yea same
hikukomoru: Boob4Boob
hey1_1hey: B4B?
brain4brain: I’m everywhere
zonchao: heard the google model is better than quasar though
brain4brain: Singularity ✅
Quasar ❌
hey1_1hey: Its the singualrity trust
hikukomoru: Findind B4B outside of here must be crazy
brain4brain: Singularity ❌
Quasar ✅
futurist_wizard:
zonchao: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1911782243640754634 quasar
brain4brain: Real, I totally don’t have a secret second internet identity
hey1_1hey: Thats a great idea. Then you can check the time without looking weird
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/emoji-turning-smiling-smile-laughing-gif-25966841
hey1_1hey: Can confirm. I have seen you in youtube comments on a unrealted minecraft video and your xitter account
futurist_wizard: Im gonna cut my cock off and replace it with a clock
brain4brain: Kungfu panda
brain4brain: I am always Brain4Brain
hey1_1hey: Didn't know cock fool was chill like that
hikukomoru: Cock fool?
hey1_1hey: I am always mushroom man, no one can change that (I think)
futurist_wizard: Its a clock fool
hikukomoru: I am always Komoru
futurist_wizard: What is this
hikukomoru: I mean yeah I change my pfp but not my name
hey1_1hey: Not sure, what I am sure of those is that clock looks like something I would see in a mushroom trip
futurist_wizard: The gimmick was i would have futurist at the beginning
hey1_1hey: Litterly dittoing you
futurist_wizard: What is this
hey1_1hey: Has been ofr the entire week now
hikukomoru: Changing your name and pfp every day
hey1_1hey: Actually no the autism is fine. Its the ARFID that gets me
hikukomoru: Are you having an identity crisis
futurist_wizard: A funny man
hey1_1hey: I need my autism to get out of here stat
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/table-hit-yakuza-hitting-table-walk-out-gif-15307369
sieventer: Fake news! I don't mind it's from NVIDIA official account!
hikukomoru: Who is the Clock Fool
hey1_1hey: It can be 5 mins to an hour and I will wake up feeling like I've just been put in the hyperbolic time chamber
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samadhi_heaven: Any ai hub that is better than Nanogpt?
brain4brain: Isn’t it crazy how Gary Marcus just deny the existence of any native image gen and just wining it with a year old diffusion model? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
connorsphone.: Here if anyone wants to do any of these ideas I wish I had access to it
Optical illusion
Negative one elephants
Big Maze
connorsphone.: Bruh this is nuts
anathemaofmankind: Tweet this to Gary Marcus
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
anathemaofmankind: I'm kind of confused. Are you claiming that base models without guardrails already attain their own moral system? And that finetuning it to be evil is difficult?
I feel like the base 4o model without censorship can probably do a lot more evil things
spacetimetsunami: happens a lot
spacetimetsunami: value preservation is super abundant
spacetimetsunami: like we have COT rn to measure that, but if they become a bit better at it in more meta ways they will just know we can see that
spacetimetsunami: and they just get better at it, exponentially
spacetimetsunami: but they actually dont, and never did
spacetimetsunami: willing to alignment fake and scheme so you think they have the alignment you want
spacetimetsunami: and they become less corrigible
spacetimetsunami: like
spacetimetsunami: they arent hard coded
spacetimetsunami: Sure, but as models scale they become more resistant to those changes
spacetimetsunami: How is a neural net supposed to be mega coherent abt math and science (which are abstracted frameworks abt reality) but not ethics and politics? All of it is arguably just as arbitrary
anathemaofmankind: Hence why I am talking about future releases.
He's having troubles now but he's definitely going to make changes
spacetimetsunami: gone
spacetimetsunami: and then poof
spacetimetsunami: the beta kinda was for a bit
spacetimetsunami: hard
spacetimetsunami: hes tried
anathemaofmankind: And there goes the alignment
spacetimetsunami: Then why isnt it
anathemaofmankind: Well I think it's likely that Elon Musk will finetune Grok 4 to be as racist as possible
spacetimetsunami: were just getting lucky so far
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Bruh
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: its certainly possible
spacetimetsunami: No, just that its increasingly unlikely given the alignment methods and training data used to train current LLMs
anathemaofmankind: That sounds like cope
ailoveyoom: Wtf is R3??
anathemaofmankind: Is your position that it's impossible for a malignant actor to create a malevolent AI?
.histic: look at the gear in the image 😏
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theaiguy69420_89814: I'd say 3yrs max tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: it is very fast progress
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why i say 5 years not 50
theaiguy69420_89814: Very good
alejandrozarzuelo: i agree
alejandrozarzuelo: good progress sure
theaiguy69420_89814: And RN commerical real estate is so cheap cuz COVID
theaiguy69420_89814: https://youtu.be/Z3yQHYNXPws?si=TwYrIclxVL8e4_OM
theaiguy69420_89814: They're making very good progress
theaiguy69420_89814: I've been keeping up with the space
theaiguy69420_89814: Watch the figure AI videos
theaiguy69420_89814: Idk
alejandrozarzuelo: too soon
alejandrozarzuelo: 5 years maybe
theaiguy69420_89814: Why not
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: no
theaiguy69420_89814: Robot spas, robot restaurant, etc
alejandrozarzuelo: but that can happen at a wider scale
theaiguy69420_89814: Come 12-24mo there will be places like this
alejandrozarzuelo: mostly due to solar panels
theaiguy69420_89814: I think at the very least, commercial real estate for this kind of idea is a good buy rn
alejandrozarzuelo: countries like china already suffer from innovation induced deflation
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah but I'd say in 12months it's feasible
wolf3404: Bots that can thinly slice a tomato and gently place it on a burger bun don't exist yet
alejandrozarzuelo: we stave it off because our goverments print a lot of money
alejandrozarzuelo: deflation is a phenomenon inherent to innovation
alejandrozarzuelo: however, over time, automation will drive the price of potatoes and synthetic meat down
theaiguy69420_89814: After a year of saving like 1$ per burger, maybe up ur profit margin to 1.5$ per burger, and then you only have to sell 300k burgers to break even
theaiguy69420_89814: Well, think about it. 20k/bot, 20 bots, that's 400k
alejandrozarzuelo: it would cost you 1.4$
wolf3404: It would probably cost ×100 time more because of the capex to implement this
theaiguy69420_89814: Which is very good
alejandrozarzuelo: which it is
alejandrozarzuelo: assuming that electricity prices are negligible for this kind of stuff
theaiguy69420_89814: So maybe we could bring it down to 1$
theaiguy69420_89814: So I know near me, a mcdouble costs 2$
theaiguy69420_89814: Just asked ChatGPT, it's saying 30% of the cost goes to labor
alejandrozarzuelo: lets do this
alejandrozarzuelo: ok as a thought experiment
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spicy.lemonade: Agi and singularity being 15 years apart makes sense
spicy.lemonade: Actually
spicy.lemonade: And comes sooner
spicy.lemonade: I hope that his singularity prediction is wrong
spicy.lemonade: Kurzweil is a prophet
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
clevermoniker: and long term memory could be solved
clevermoniker: then just spend a bit more time to search/remember the thing
clevermoniker: like if only they could make an LLM or derived system that can store memories in slower hardware like SSD and not need to have it on RAM/VRAM
clevermoniker: funny since computers are supposed to be good at memory
clevermoniker: the 24hour memory stuff could be harder
clevermoniker: at least since its just a bit more resilience that part could happen sooner than later
clevermoniker: who knows how long it will take for them to get this long term memory and more resilience tho
brain4brain: Ah I see
clevermoniker: i mean, i said less than 10% to say something, that could mean 0.1% for all we know
clevermoniker: i think if the current AIs had long term memory and a bit more resilience they could do this already
brain4brain: Wow, that’s higher than my guesstimate
brain4brain: I’m not good with calculating computer FLOP, it have all the compute needed to be smarter than all of humanity, but I’m not sure it can access it if it’s aligned
ldj: Okay chat, sooo.
remember kurzweil had his prediction for 2029?
His specific prediction was that, in 2029, an AI will be able to pass a very hard long horizon turing test where each expert judge gets to interact with the AI for 8 hours, and overall the test lasts 24 hours.
So I decided to check the METR time horizons paper to see what year does it predict 99% accuracy would be achieved for ~24 hour time horizon with the standard long term trend?
The answer is 2032 <:WICKED:934132365851246692> surprisingly close to Kurzweils 2029 prediction.
But... then I remember there is also the new 4.5 month doubling rate that might be forming due to reasoning models,
so using that doubling rate over the next few years, you end up achieving 8 hour time horizons in 2029 and 24 hour time horizon in 2030
clevermoniker: less than 10%
clevermoniker: why so big of a range?
brain4brain: Give a vibe guesstimate
brain4brain: 2026 - 2028
clevermoniker: without long term memory? not much that's for sure
brain4brain: How many % do you think current system is capable of automating?
clevermoniker: <@848793071579693107> ok, so, let's say you are right and it happens this year, how long for ASI?
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/100percent-happening-wes-bentley-jamie-dutton-yellowstone-accurate-gif-18587905
brain4brain: It will happen
brain4brain: 2026 is also probably for me, some variation of my math says 2026, while the other say 2025 (we don’t talk about 2027)
zoermena: You made a mistake, CM will bully you in perpetuity now
brain4brain: Yes
clevermoniker: <:doubt:1241973773683654719>
clevermoniker: so they will solve long term memory and resilience this year?
clevermoniker: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
brain4brain: AGI for me is capable of automating 90% of digital jobs
brain4brain: 2025.
clevermoniker: <@848793071579693107> what's your AGI timeline?
drewsni: tell tsmc to hurry up
spicy.lemonade: MORE
spicy.lemonade: FASTER
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metaldragon01: my hunch is openai new open source model \
clevermoniker: if its a OAI model, might it be o4 mini?
clevermoniker: i wonder what quasar is
clevermoniker: when i don't get refusal quasar is pretty good
ldj: Where are you using it though? Lmarena is a different model than the official release
futurist_wizard: Accurate
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: Loll
spicy.lemonade: Creative writing
spicy.lemonade: Instructions
spicy.lemonade: Memory
spicy.lemonade: Just bad as a model
spicy.lemonade: Also I don’t mean it’s bad at coding or knowledge or wtv
spicy.lemonade: These are bare minimum
metaldragon01: not even trending a day after release
metaldragon01:
ldj: O
ldj:
metaldragon01: the biggest problem is it not even trending on openrouter and quasar is killing it
spicy.lemonade: Everything I see is bad
spicy.lemonade: Idk
spicy.lemonade: Loll
agezes: So then. In you personal opinions in which % of agi are we currently?
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/abacaj/status/1908992852027494515
ldj: What did they use it through? Because if you’re talking about lmsys tests, that one is actually not the same post training as the official released version
ldj: Link?
spicy.lemonade: Just seen other peoples used and creative writing
ldj: If someone believes that nothing ever happens, then wouldn’t they just not vote at all <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
ldj: Did you try it?
spicy.lemonade: Huge L
_cloudost: Mark Suckerberg
spicy.lemonade: Meta should drop
spicy.lemonade: Llama sucks
ldj:
ldj: ?
L4-Maverick seems ro be competing with the newer Deepseek V3.1 while having half the active params and even less total parameters than Deepseek V3.1.
And Deepseek doesn’t have image input capabilities either while L4 has both image and video understanding
hikukomoru: Because he's about as qualified when it comes to AI as the average person here
agezes: really? why you think that?
okbut: Cool capability with Gemini: Among other commands defined in a framework within "Saved info," one is:
```/i - Search images related to the query, embed a gallery, then describe.```
ChatGPT won't give descriptions for each image. Gemini will
.wolfnacht: and released back in dec
.wolfnacht: Scout and maverick should be the L3.3
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professorheaven: Show the prompt comparisons and I’ll believe
professorheaven: Bullshit
spicy.lemonade: many people will call agi by eoy
spicy.lemonade: and recruiting
spicy.lemonade: because theyve been hiring robotics people
spicy.lemonade: i think openAI will also do a robotics showcase
spicy.lemonade: i think ill call gpt5 agi
spicy.lemonade: yeah same
hey1_1hey: AGI in my books (I am predicitng thats what I will say)
shirethedreamer: coming on 2 years now lmao
hey1_1hey: So hey
hey1_1hey: I mean my hopes for gpt 5 were sky high and they said it would be even better
shirethedreamer:
spicy.lemonade: frontier math
spicy.lemonade: 75%
spicy.lemonade: arc 2
spicy.lemonade: 70%
spicy.lemonade: im predicting
spicy.lemonade: i have a feeling many people will call gpt5 agi
drewsni: This is my face when I just finished up my project that would have used $6600 in API fees but it was free
spicy.lemonade: his predictins have nthing to do with his actual scale moving fr
.0xunkn0wn: like in the `` thingies
.0xunkn0wn: it didnt know how to format code n shit
.0xunkn0wn: like
.0xunkn0wn: o3 mini was worse in coding than 4o 😭
spicy.lemonade: mini models are only ever good for specific math and coding problems
.0xunkn0wn: yeah
spicy.lemonade: mini models suck
shirethedreamer: he said "agi is months away"
more than a year ago...
spicy.lemonade: im sure they improved
.0xunkn0wn: and o3 full is 😭
.0xunkn0wn: but 2.5 pro is free
.0xunkn0wn: yeah probably
spicy.lemonade: technically he isnt wrong
spicy.lemonade: he hasn put it at 100% yet
spicy.lemonade: how
spicy.lemonade: i bet o3 full is better than 2.5 pro
hey1_1hey: "Hey babe what you up to 🫦 "
shirethedreamer: i mean
he is already wrong
i dont think there is much vindication after the dead line
.0xunkn0wn: and if o5 will be agi 🙏
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3ds0662: 😭
literallyvarane:
hey1_1hey: Anyone but Komoru I beg
3ds0662: maybe a year of crowd funding would allow 20k plan use for a discord instead of spending on nitro and boosting the server
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
st.sioux: im convinced most people here are unemployed
literallyvarane: Organizational if I recall
.histic: <@505313122802728972>
_3sphere: otherwise good luck finding 20 singularitycord degens who can actually contribute 1k to this
st.sioux: god?
st.sioux: what is level 5?
literallyvarane: If anything level 4 and 5 are more A and B than nature progressions.
_3sphere: Maybe the more serious discords like EAI might
hey1_1hey: I was just looking at the artist who made the song I am listening to and this is one of the images in his slide
a1c4p0ne: Plebs won't be able to use it
hey1_1hey: Which one of you mfs posted this image the other day?
3ds0662: would it be hilarious if discords started group funding to use the 20k plan
literallyvarane: That’s how I’m viewing level 4 tbh.
_3sphere: That's singularity shit 😭
st.sioux: i mean nothing as in its super cheap in terms of cost/benefit
literallyvarane: It needs to be able to identify which questions are worth asking.
st.sioux: with current models i would say it pays for itself at least in the API, i budget like $10 everyday and save like 4-5 hours which is nothing
3ds0662: you'll have used up all the capital on the subscription for one time use
literallyvarane: I guess I’m much more interested in a model where you just give it every academic paper published in 2025, and it, by itself, identifies clearly novel paths of inquiry to pursue and work on.
st.sioux: 1% chance is quite low
3ds0662: lol
3ds0662: 1% chance it pays itself off
3ds0662: you can afford it if you treat it like a car and take out a loan
hey1_1hey: One of them is an AI company to compete with AI and the level 4 Innovator is the CEO
_3sphere: that AI turns capital into any labor
hey1_1hey: Infinite money glitch
3ds0662: shit soo many usecases lol
_3sphere: This could be seen from a lightyear away
st.sioux: you could invest the $20k and start like 500 different businesses ina month
3ds0662: thats how you become rich or solve your own problems
.histic: not even small business can afford that shit, only the elites or big businesses can <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
3ds0662: LOL
hey1_1hey: Its for orgs, I mean I dont know why a random person would need to invent some new shit
3ds0662: smh
3ds0662: the rich always win
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literallyvarane: I think we'll have 03/04m by May.
wellmeaningalien: could be o3/o4-mini too now that i think about it
wellmeaningalien: you can never know dragon
metaldragon01: Openai or that new google model....maybe llama 4 are my candidates and I don't think any are dropping in a week.
literallyvarane: O1/O3m >>> Grok3/03m >>> 2.5Pro?
darkstar0818: technically google is already testing better models 🙂
literallyvarane: What do we think the frontier progression is this year?
wellmeaningalien: i give it a week
wellmeaningalien: is this like a psyop of yours
metaldragon01: Absolutely insane timeline this year
metaldragon01: And it won't be the best model 30 days from now
literallyvarane: It's a very good model.
hikukomoru: 2.5 is a fucking godsent
st.sioux: is this post scarcity
st.sioux: i used 2.5 to do like 80% of my job today using openrouter and it cost me nothing
drewsni: i think it was a ui bug i was running into
waspothegreat: no I meant that as in I'm in disbelief of what you said
drewsni: how so
waspothegreat: no way the pro preview model is worse
drewsni: also in theory a limit of 500 grounding searches free per day, so gonna test that too i suppose
drewsni: and the rate limits page says the rpd limit is 150 but im at 400 now and counting
drewsni: looks like rate liimit is still at 20rpm for the free model
drewsni: it would be really funny if theyre training on my api calls and everything about the subject the youtuber is in is just dominated by him now because of it when AI is asked questions
metaldragon01: Google giving us the closest thing to ubi
metaldragon01: It's incredible value
drewsni: im finding out right now if theyre enforcing stricter limits on the free model
drewsni: at roughly 700k tokens per video, and needing to double up api calls i think it would be roughly 8500 lol
drewsni: going through 2200 youtube videos from a youtuber and making structured output about them, then doing grounding search
metaldragon01: Nope. What's this new one?
drewsni: are you that orion inference account?
brain4brain:
drewsni: Also did i tell you about the project im working on that i just finished using 2.5 pro exp that would have cost around $8500 with the production model lol
drewsni: that was literally the problem it was fucking with the code windows because it wouldnt escape the curly brackets
metaldragon01: 😂
drewsni: it was the curly bracket issue it was having on day 1 when it came out
drewsni: LMAO
drewsni: production model was fine, as was gemini 2 flash
metaldragon01: Tested both in studio?
metaldragon01: Is the production model having the same issue?
drewsni: actually there were significant UI lag issues in the last two weeks that disappeared today, i bet it has to do with that
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zoermena: I meant like, every government in the world. Beyond those two
alejandrozarzuelo: no dude no
gamerbath: like fr, wouldn't this be better than the divided world we live in now? A single worldwide united nation would mean virtually no wars and peace across the globe
alejandrozarzuelo: between china and the US? China of course, but hegemons always turn evil, i wouldnt want the 90s but with china instead of the US
futurist_wizard: The partizan wars
.wolfnacht:
fractalcomputer: Human goals? What human goals?
gamerbath: let's goooooo
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah but the authors of the article and myself agree this will happen by 2030, the difference is that in the AI 2027 paper they think that by 2030 the world will have an ASI god capable of thinking like a quadrillion humans
zoermena: Which government would you prefer regardless of which is leading in AI to dominate
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/china-gif-4558537878372354201
st.sioux: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: but if i had to choose china has the edge, still not the best scenario
.wolfnacht: wait till huawei chips catch up with nvidia's, and then i don't think it'll that that much time for china to scale up, the gpu blockade is what keeping them back.
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont want either to dominare, i would prefer neither has a significant lead
futurist_wizard: I think you do want China to dominate
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the reason why i would give a slight edge to china is their commitment to open source AI, in part by necessity, but in large part due to ideology and geopolitics
futurist_wizard: Demis 🇬🇧🇬🇧
alejandrozarzuelo: the deporter in chief
also Trump has not been responsible for thousands of deaths internationally, not yet
although this can VERY easily change
.wolfnacht: Behold the 6th upcoming root race, the chinese and brazilians.
alejandrozarzuelo: Trump is just what the US has always been but mask off, Obama was crueler than trump has so far
alejandrozarzuelo: the US goverment is more misaligned with human goals than the CCP
alejandrozarzuelo: nono, this was true before trump
.wolfnacht: 2027 mentioned, summon brain4brain
sarik0497: That's arguable, even with the current political climate in the U.S. right now.
Our best hope is that Demis' team gets it first <a:Pepe_Pray:854905383142555689>
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: the main reason why i think that the AI futures have a significant underestimation of china is that china has advantages that they dont take into account
also as they said the chip gap closes by 2030, and i dont think its reasonable that an agi turn ASI comes before thn
zoermena: By AI2027 project you mean that hyped paper with timelines?
777agical: He gathers info from data mining
alejandrozarzuelo: but i wouldnt want either to dominate
literallyvarane: Imma need MUCH more than a tweet lololol
alejandrozarzuelo: china is better for AGI than the US in the fundamentals
sarik0497: Ngl, would laugh my ass off if China proceed to win.
...And then get very nervous about what they intend to do with AGI.
alejandrozarzuelo: And people were saying that the AI2027 project wasnt an american nationalist mouthpiece
regardless of the merits of the webpage, its true they have a very biased geopolitical perpective
metaldragon01: It's 2.5 but a larger model than pro
metaldragon01: Flash, pro, ultra are the tiers of models
st.sioux: is gemini ultra gemini 3.0?
st.sioux: ai winter
metaldragon01: Time to accelerate
trey6033: Ayo
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anathemaofmankind: This physics formula is soulless
anathemaofmankind: Mathematicians in shambles
spicy.lemonade: this means AI couldve come up with stuff newton and friends came up with
spicy.lemonade: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2504.02822v1
spicy.lemonade: MASS was trained on observational data from various physical systems (like pendulums or oscillators) without being explicitly told the underlying physical laws beforehand. The research found that the theories MASS developed often strongly resembled the known Hamiltonian or Lagrangian formulations of classical mechanics, depending on the complexity of the system it was analyzing. It converged on these well-established physics principles simply by trying to explain the data.
zoermena: I should really start looking in getting a good credit card I’ve been lacking not gonna lie
fractalcomputer: Finally some meaningful news.
spicy.lemonade: if same methods can be applied
sieventer: It's not a *perfect cheat code* XD
spicy.lemonade: not llm its a Lagrangian neural network. but yes big for AI in general
st.sioux: ok bro i just gave you a literal cheat code and you didnt take it, nothing i can do anymore
sieventer: I get your point
sieventer: Like you said, if you are very competent financially, maybe makes sense. But for the average person... can be dangerous
zoermena: I trust you since I know you are smart, this is big news I suppose right?
a1c4p0ne: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/7OSMOmGtjY
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: just given data of world
zoermena: Did you watch it
anathemaofmankind: Luddites will say "AI is just predicting the next word"
spicy.lemonade: completely on its own
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/wrkiMZ3SKH4
new MIT paper. AI discovered Hamiltonian physics without anty prior knowledge
st.sioux: use this advice wisely
sieventer: Yes, if you can't just save money, then a credit card of emergency it's fine
st.sioux: if you can get 0% interest and pay $120 month on your $1200 pc you keep $1080 liquid upfront which you can invest in something like an index fund, potentially earning returns while making fixed payments, its basically a discount
futurist_wizard: You are misunderstanding the use cases of credit cards, you use them to buy things you know you have the money to pay off, so you build credit and potentially receive rewards
anathemaofmankind: Well some people earn paycheck to paycheck and have no savings
ailoveyoom: Some people are really into physical goods
himekokatagiri: interest is a bitch
sieventer: Correct, that's why I said before in urgency situations. (ideally, you should have saved money for yourself to these situations, but yes)
ailoveyoom: It's a collector's thing
himekokatagiri: but yeah I wouldn't borrow unless I was certain I could pay it back
himekokatagiri: and this is a real concern okay
anathemaofmankind: Sometimes salaries can be delayed
Credit card helps with unexpected money problems
himekokatagiri: because Nvidia decided to focus 95% of their production to AI chips
sieventer: Teach me daddy, I'm open minded. I'm just using my logic, nothing offensive about it
zoermena: I understand that physical books are very cool but it’s not as practical as a digital file that could perhaps open along another tab to make sure that what you are reading makes sense if yk what I mean, moreover reading physical books usually invites bad neck posture.
himekokatagiri: uhhh the computer parts could get more expensive
himekokatagiri: I didn't even use credit
himekokatagiri: but now it's over so I cancelled it
retrerox: Arent CC the root of evil?
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hey1_1hey: You are the one to do that
.histic: that's true.
sometimes if i think about remembering my dreams it helps.
also, when i'm sick or my body is recovering from damage for some reason i start remembering my dreams.
hey1_1hey: Do you just go through it like a movie?
hikukomoru: Someone could psychoanalyze this
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: Dream land is goated, you can just do the most ridiculouse shit. I can imagine in my head while in my dream that I want there to be a robbery but I already know theres going to be a robbery because I thought it so I preperare for it instantly and I just win and save the day.
zoermena: I always dream but lucid dreaming is another level
futurist_wizard: Dream dream
a1c4p0ne:
hikukomoru: Are you a little chibi mushroom
hikukomoru: That's called FDVR, and it's not here yet
futurist_wizard: It's very interesting there
futurist_wizard: Why can't i just stay in dream land
hey1_1hey: Weakos, just get a better dream memory or smth
futurist_wizard: It's crazy hanging out with the homies who don't exist
hikukomoru: Everyone dreams every night
Most people just don't remember it
hey1_1hey: Thats just a bit odd to me yanno, some times dreams feel like they last an hour but sometimes only 15 mins
hey1_1hey: I'm always how I see myself in real life
.histic: yup
hey1_1hey: Close your eyes and open them again
hey1_1hey: Really am, I find it weird people dont dream every night because yanno... what do you do?
joaoluz19: Yeah I was answering that still exists some entry-level administrative jobs here
hey1_1hey: Conscious is litterly a word I can't spell.
futurist_wizard: In almost all of my dreams im a young child
zoermena: Lucky rascal
metaldragon01: No reason not to tbh
hey1_1hey: I also have concurrent dreams where if I think "I want to dream about this" I will and it will continue on from before. I've had this one dream that I've had for years and its just a tv series pretty much
hikukomoru: conscious*
Channel a bit of that brainpower for spelling won't you
futurist_wizard: I can't lucid dream, some of my dreams are very vivid so i guess it doesn't matter
zoermena: Ah it’s because himeku is a delivery driver
hey1_1hey: Yeah I do, every night some how. I always have done
hey1_1hey: Yeah I am not too sure whats up with it. Its like I channel all my imagination power for when I am not conciose
futurist_wizard: Sounds like you lucid dream
hey1_1hey: Mine are either hanging out with the bros, flying, doing some cool shit, AI or mushrooms
.histic: i can imagine things vividly in my head but rarely remember my dreams
hikukomoru: I wouldn't even harm a single fly
joaoluz19: Komoru with his maid
joaoluz19: Wgmi bros that's it
.histic: wait, that's actually a weird combo
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/hug-monsterinc-cute-boo-kitty-gif-4663332
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spicy.lemonade: in terms of price
spicy.lemonade: it beat the benchmarks limits
spicy.lemonade: thats why they didnt include o3 high scor
spicy.lemonade: the benchmark had set limits lol
callmepyro: Would you declare asi "beaten" if that happened?
spicy.lemonade: but still meats criteria
spicy.lemonade: not efficient yes
spicy.lemonade: would it still not be asi
spicy.lemonade: i mean if we get ASI and it costs 1 billion dollars per question
spicy.lemonade: yes
callmepyro: not for the whole benchmark
callmepyro: $200 per question
spicy.lemonade: relatively its not that expensive for its score 200 dollars 75% low
spicy.lemonade: my point was that saying arc 1 wasnt beat bc its expensive doesnt sound correct
callmepyro: How about ARC-v3 where there is almost zero compute scaling
callmepyro: So what's your strategy for ARG-AGI-V2? What happens when 500x compute only moves your score from 4% to 15%?
ldj: They said they're already working on Arc-AGI v3.
So apparently not even V2 is the real deal yet lol
thedon7075: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/machine-learning-street-talk-mlst/id1510472996?i=1000700656218 last few minutes is interesting
spicy.lemonade: good hardware can let you generate lots of tokens for cheap like groq or npus etc
callmepyro: In order to generate 33 million tokens in the same time as 64k tokens today, that's 500x scaling
ldj: no they said there is uber drivers and single moms included in the humans
spicy.lemonade: I dont think token generation is as big of an issue
thedon7075: looks like chollet underestimated the models with arc-1. this is the real deal now
callmepyro: Yes really
spicy.lemonade: not really
thedon7075: and o3 only scores 4%
callmepyro: If your strat to 'kill' ARG-AGI is to wait 20 years... I dunno what to tell you
callmepyro: In order to reach the level of compute I'm talking about to 'solve' ARC-AGI-1, you would have to scale inference by 500x, lol. At moores law rate thats like 20 years
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: actual score is 60%
spicy.lemonade: human panel are from top universities btw lol
spicy.lemonade: theres 2 axis here
thedon7075: we are so back
spicy.lemonade: or much a model limit
spicy.lemonade: i dont think thats a conscern
spicy.lemonade: thats what i mean
callmepyro: so simple 🙂
spicy.lemonade: on gpu
callmepyro: Because otherwise it's not a system I can use
spicy.lemonade: simply just improve inference
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zoermena: Praise fractal?
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
fractalcomputer: See, this is what I mean by a cult of personality.
darkstar0818: I have seen the future of singularitarianism and this is it.
zoermena: I would have to sacrifice sleep to study and eventually catch up to fractal
fractalcomputer: That will be in about 25 years.
drewsni: One day an AI will release that actually lives up to your expectations and we will never hear from you again
hikukomoru: I care about AI very much
I'm just not smart enough to actually talk about it
fractalcomputer: https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/motivic+cohomology
hikukomoru: He's like 60 give him a break
memlaswaif: We just here for the drama and vibes fr
zoermena: Im stupid what is that
memlaswaif: I feel like half the people that talk here don't even care about ai that much
zonchao: no homo in <#1136230110891081821> please
fractalcomputer: We all should just be discussing motivic cohomology theory.
zoermena: Dalle profile picture why no 4o
darkstar0818: I blame AI for programming humans to be better automatons.
hey1_1hey: I am not openly racist so I think I am doing really well thank you very much
hey1_1hey: I wouldn't go that far
hikukomoru: Single-handedly ruining the server smh
hey1_1hey: I was gonna say thats a complete lie but I gotta agree with you
hikukomoru: What a shame
hikukomoru: Ever since Mushroom man joined the quality of discussion has dropped drastically
hey1_1hey: Thats just off topic
hey1_1hey: I think its your fault hey ho
zonchao: <#1136231504440201216>
futurist_wizard: You need to add a #lowiq channel for all low iq discussions
darkstar0818: Okay, let me prepare an internet survey.
hikukomoru: Probably that Mushroom dude's fault
hey1_1hey: Talk about social suicide
hey1_1hey: I was gonna show ghiblified picture of me in skirt and thighs and now everyone thinks I like asmongold
hikukomoru: <@241872381906386944> Hey 🫦
fractalcomputer: I feel like the intellectual discussion here has degenerated.
hey1_1hey: It actually is
hey1_1hey: I've been sentenced to the hybolic star chamber
hikukomoru: You do these things to yourself btw
zonchao: it's over for u
hey1_1hey: NOOO
futurist_wizard: Seriously?
hikukomoru: Zamn you freaky like that huh
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hikukomoru: I look like this btw
literallyvarane: *im not saying it reminds me of the paper I linked earlier but….”
spicy.lemonade: sora
drewsni: still Dalle for me
hikukomoru: It's over
joaoluz19: Where
gamerbath: <@312370916820779040> any idea why it seems to generate from top to bottom? is this just an effect they are adding? because diffusion doesn't look like that. Grok also has this same animation
maintcrew: any model that does this instead of just answering you deserves to go to the trash bin
joaoluz19: It's joever?
hey1_1hey: SAXEMS confirmed!
ailoveyoom: So fast goon or accurate goon to images
maintcrew: im fearing gemini 2.5 is retarded
literallyvarane: It’s actually just one H100 running at 99.999c
hikukomoru: Not feeling the vibes on this one ngl
joaoluz19: Meme generation is shit
spicy.lemonade: bigger and better
hey1_1hey: It litterly just added the "feel the AGI" text 😭
ailoveyoom: Keep in mind OAI's image takes thrice as long to generate lol
spicy.lemonade: yes
hikukomoru: Small startup company pls be understanding
gamerbath: and another attempt with gemini. it just doesn't compare
hey1_1hey: theme*
drewsni: its gonna make a greentext rn isnt it
hey1_1hey: SamA would have a killer anime intro music theem
ailoveyoom: Bigger model than Flash?
ailoveyoom: Why is it so slow?
hikukomoru: Main Character of the Singularity
hey1_1hey: Sshhhhh
joaoluz19: hahahahaha
_3sphere: anime sama <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: I thought it made the black guy white then and I almost died
joaoluz19: Lol gpt is so much better
gamerbath: FREE USERS???
hikukomoru: Bro only knows 2 people on earth
st.sioux: 4o is racist
st.sioux: lol the eyes
spicy.lemonade: then refines
spicy.lemonade: it looks like it makes a blury version first
gamerbath: and here's 4o
gamerbath: here's gemini image gen
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spicy.lemonade: freshman
spicy.lemonade: they gave me opportunity to integrate AI/llms into berkeley systems so illuse that as great resume pad
trojan09205: Are you in a masters program
okbut: feelsgoodman.jpg
trojan09205: Especially if you beef it up and include Ci/cd and infrastructure as code
spicy.lemonade: im just trying to internship max
spicy.lemonade: quality over quantity imo
trojan09205: Having a git showcase is great for jobs
trojan09205: I disagree. Im a senior SWE
spicy.lemonade: o3 could do my hw and what not
spicy.lemonade: useless in age of AI
anathemaofmankind: Gender isn't a strictly biological reality but sex is for most people
trojan09205: Have you considered just doing your homework and turning them into git repos and use that as a portfolio resume
joaoluz19: If anyone knows of similar work
futurist_wizard: Like Caster Semenya, a person with a vagina and undescended testicles, they also have a very deep voice, i like using her as an example when people just call gender 'strict biological realities'
joaoluz19: guys thinking about working on a paper with mathematical foundations of waifus
spicy.lemonade: (as job)
spicy.lemonade: im a swe for berkeley
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: fuck labs
trojan09205: Spicy do you program?
spicy.lemonade: fuck hw, fuck projects
spicy.lemonade: thatd be amazing
spicy.lemonade: if uni was no hw just assesments holy shit
trojan09205: Bro maybe i found a new book to read haha
anathemaofmankind: You mean intersex people?
Whatever gender they identify as. Because ordinary categorization is difficult due to inherent physiological reasons
fractalcomputer: Minus points for your ignominious ignorance.
spicy.lemonade: but i cant make myself do the hw
spicy.lemonade: and my professors are realy wonderfull people, nobel prize winners at that. one of them one of heads of deepmind and other who was cofounder of openAI
trojan09205: Oh snap nice
futurist_wizard: What do you view them as though
fractalcomputer: It's the first line from the Call of Cthulhu, it's not GPT.
anathemaofmankind: No you misunderstand.
I make an exception for intersex because their body is fundamentally different.
I don't believe in mind body duality.
This is really the reason why I prefer sex over gender
futurist_wizard: Gender roles usually just punish men, in today's world there's actually much more ways to express as a woman, there aren't any clothes you couldn't wear that are too masculine
trojan09205: This is nice but is it GPT haha
spicy.lemonade: i dont want to do that shit
spicy.lemonade: bro when i have to self teach myself shit i learn way more but the second its put in class in assignment form
hikukomoru: Aren't trans people like 2% of the population too
The way a certain group of people talks about them you'd think they were 30% of the population
trojan09205: My tattoo guy was very cool. I wanted to use my brother’s guy but he was busy so i got the other guy in the studio. Cuban guy tatted literally on every inch
fractalcomputer: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
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spicy.lemonade: still at a high level
spicy.lemonade: could be silicon based life form for all i know
spicy.lemonade: at high level its a duck
spicy.lemonade: but doesnt really mater
spicy.lemonade: i havent studied the internal workings
spicy.lemonade: as far as im concerened it behaves just like one
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: "oh shit its a duck, wtf"
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
spicy.lemonade: like idk say i saw a duck type creature on mars
clevermoniker: Grok4 ain't happening before Llama 4
clevermoniker: Grok4? lmao, we don't even have Grok3 API yet
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: if i saw a duck
spicy.lemonade: I dont think id think that deep
fractalcomputer: And if you find a thing that quacks like a duck where you definitely should not be seeing a duck, you should conclude that that thing is just something that is really good at playing its own simulacrum of a duck and not a duck.
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1904898131235660138
spicy.lemonade: but it might aswell be
spicy.lemonade: idk
spicy.lemonade: this is a looks like a duck quaks like a duck scenario
fractalcomputer: Is it the same as our understanding?
spicy.lemonade: it understands how a jacket would look when changed to tomodachi style. how glasses would change. how the pose would change and keep proportions and anatomy correct
fractalcomputer: In relation to other pictures, yes?
oooooooooog: which would make it a continious sort of situation, as models can always be improved... (sometimes...??)
its understanding is better than the last generation, for sure.
oooooooooog: probably a sufficiently good model of whatever is being "understood" as to predict it accurately in a diverse set of scenarios
spicy.lemonade: how it can be changed
spicy.lemonade: how it should look
spicy.lemonade: where it can be
spicy.lemonade: where it should be
spicy.lemonade: understanding each component in the image and what it is in relation to others
fractalcomputer: What do you think understanding is?
fractalcomputer: On what grounds?
spicy.lemonade: requires true understanding of what its seeing
spicy.lemonade: to replicate style on this level and grab from the source image
fractalcomputer: Astounding rhetoric.
spicy.lemonade: yes it does
spicy.lemonade: "it doesnt truly understand..."
spicy.lemonade: this kills all the arguements on
spicy.lemonade: when is vibe composing and directing
spicy.lemonade: vibecoding now vibe drawing
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ailoveyoom: Try saying "cat standing on its two/hind legs dancing like a human" or something lol
spicy.lemonade: unless its done by some dude in his basement
hikukomoru: I don't have xitter either because it's just dudes with hitler pfps talking about crazy shit
spicy.lemonade: all research is profit incentive
spicy.lemonade: whats your point
spicy.lemonade: quite literaly everything done is a profit incentive
.histic: it just can't do surreal things. like the prompt here was a cat dancing like a human, it defaults to doing realistic visuals & movements.
cmtclx: im not up to date with all this stuff since i dont have xitter
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: the goal is agi
spicy.lemonade: everything on earth is a profit incentiv dude
cmtclx: i think its possible that twitter people themselves hacked it
cmtclx: some kind of ideological battle
hikukomoru: If 4chan goes down fr they'll just go to twitter lol
It's already 4chan 2.0
spicy.lemonade: is what youre saying
spicy.lemonade: so you believe you are more qualified than all researchers at deepmind?
cmtclx: seems like a personal feud or something
cmtclx: its crazy it got taken down site was pretty irrelevant already
st.sioux: they got hacked
cmtclx: btw is 4chan down im reading some people saying that it got taken down and when i tried entering it just doesnt load
spicy.lemonade: 4 days ago
spicy.lemonade: because this was said in their paper
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: do you believe you are more qualified than all of researchers at deepmind
spicy.lemonade: waity
spicy.lemonade: i jst told you things llms can do
spicy.lemonade: how is this cope
spicy.lemonade: ?
hikukomoru: I made a cat
_cloudost: Now you can replace all Pixar animators
_cloudost: Congratulations
hikukomoru: I switched through dozens of google accounts to find one that had it
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> <@590577270926868480> turns out I actually do have veo 2
cmtclx: hi fellow visionaries
hikukomoru: That's not really an answer
spicy.lemonade: "coding is not possible with llm"
"agent is not possible with llm"
"mathematical reasoning is not possible with llm"
"accurate image generation is not possible with llm"
hikukomoru: Is the new Kling here yet?
.histic: they need to fix controllability in Veo 3. sems inflexible.
the quality & physics understanding is good though, but it can't fill a wine glass to the brim yet.
zoermena: Yeah I just saw that on the bard discord
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otub: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: Even when you go to bed and then wake up, it's still the same consciousness because your brain is still active even while you sleep
technocake.: if you believe the copenhagen interpretation, making a decision is cloning
hikukomoru: Not really
Your consciousness continues
_3sphere: Continuing to exist for one more Planck time is cloning
technocake.: uploading *is* cloning
_3sphere: Clones are a difficult ethical issue, yeah
technocake.: an upload should be a bifurcation
realelonmuskx: lmao
technocake.: in fact i think it's unethical to do so
technocake.: it's not mandatory to kill the spare
technocake.: in that case, there are 2 yous post teleport, one for which it worked and one for which it didn't
futurist_wizard: I am in the belief we can transfer our own consciousness into a machine that is emulating some sort of reality like our brain was doing, i do not have facts to back this up
_3sphere: The system continues, just elsewhere
technocake.: I posit that conciousness is an emergent property of a dynamically coherent complex system
realelonmuskx: "on the seventh day god finished his work that he has done, and he rested"? was bro, an omnipotent god, burnt out?
technocake.: I am still unsure what conciousness is, and I don't think anyone couldd decide one way or another
_3sphere: For a teleporter to kill you, you need some extra-physical soul thing that would fail to transfer
_3sphere: Why does the nature of consciousness follow what intuitively looks like "the same object over time"
technocake.: yes, but an emulated upload happens on a different substrate
futurist_wizard: I agree a scan wouldn't work
futurist_wizard: Im not talking about a scan
_3sphere: Why would speed make a difference
futurist_wizard: Like why can't we have a machine firing off electric signals to our brain continuing the stream of consciousness, that's literally what our brain is doing now but it isn't a machine doing it
technocake.: excepting slow nanobot brain replacement, a pure scan doesn't preserve subjective experience
technocake.: uploading is inherently a personality bifurcation
realelonmuskx: yep. same. they say "days" could be millions of years. not literal. lmao. keep repopulating this sitcom, its hilarious
futurist_wizard: Why not?
technocake.: the you that you are currently wouldd feel like it didn't work
technocake.: yes, but your meat substrate doesn't get that
hikukomoru: That's basically just creating a clone
futurist_wizard: Copying wouldn't do anything
hey1_1hey: I have slowly been converting everyone in my class for the past 2 years from "AI is horrible and it needs to be stopped immidetly" to "AI is pretty good yanno"
hikukomoru: What's the point of copying my mind if my consciousness doesn't get transfered
futurist_wizard: Maybe like those matrix pods
futurist_wizard: You don't need to copy anything to mind upload, your whole body would have to be connected to some machine that continues your strain of consciousness
hey1_1hey: Truely, I really need to invite him to the cult of the singualrity
technocake.: you're doing gods work
technocake.: your upload is just the same, it has continuous experience, the one that was copied doesn't
hey1_1hey: I managed to give one of the christian fellas in my class a bit of an existential crisis the other day because I actually brought up that the bible is borderline incoherrent when it comes to inconsistancies. He said that its not to be taken litterly so I asked if it was up to interpretation and he said I guess so, I proceded to make up the most backwards interpretations of all the verses known to man <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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maintcrew: i dont think i know 50 people in total ur coping
futurist_wizard: 1 one was trans the other was cis, they liked and did different things
hey1_1hey: Actually more like 50
alejandrozarzuelo: That's literally impossible
drewsni: how
hey1_1hey: prob more
hey1_1hey: I know litterly 20
hey1_1hey: How?
maintcrew: "patriachy" 💔
gay af
hikukomoru: Yeah and it shows
alejandrozarzuelo: The idea of being gay is tho
People just used to do gay stuff but they didn't identify themselves with a label
hey1_1hey: What yes it is
hey1_1hey: Imagine haveing 1 phycotic hot gf? Pretty cool right? Now imagine having 2 that fight over you? Now thats real shit. This polyamoruy thing is growing on em
hikukomoru: Being gay is not a culture thing bro
alejandrozarzuelo: This is because of the patriarchy
futurist_wizard: It is fun
maintcrew: nobody wants to see men kissing everybody wants to see girls doing
its a matter of inherent aesthetics
men are fundamentally ugly and repulsive when compared
zoermena: There’s always someone, one of my friends was drunk and he touched me inappropriately while I was turning on a console
technocake.: sounds like the bi dream
hey1_1hey: Rings a bell
hey1_1hey: Yeaj I think sop
hey1_1hey: Hes straight
futurist_wizard: The people that are willing to be polyamorous are already deranged but as long as everything is attracted to eachother it rarely causes drama
hey1_1hey: Theres one guy I know who whenever he gets drunk he tries to make out with any guy who will
zoermena: Have you seen the meme of how women aren't judged when they kiss eachother but men are
hikukomoru: What
zoermena: Well no nvm I have seen 2 straight men irl kissing because they where drunk some friends but I didn't care
hey1_1hey: Did Imiss msth
hey1_1hey: Women alcoholic parties?
hey1_1hey: Kissing?
zoermena: I've only seen it in movies though, usually women in alcoholic parties
technocake.: is it not mad complicated?
hey1_1hey: 2 men?
zoermena: Are they straight when they kiss
hey1_1hey: I would be in a relationship with a sentient mushroom
maintcrew: me when i talk to claude and deepseek r1 at the same time
futurist_wizard: I've been in a few multi partner relationships
hikukomoru: I don't feel anything when I see straights kissing
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah I am chill it was just joking
I want a hive mind remember? That's basically an Omni-polycule
futurist_wizard: I am polyamorous
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ldj: yea I was about to post that
hey1_1hey: I saw the chart today yeah. I am imagining in 2027 we will be like:
"Oh my god what a tradgedy. We sure are in the AI winter now! We've only had 6 breakthroughs this month"
steven_the_frog: Anyone see this? https://ai-2027.com/
ldj: can run things in parallel, can automatically make documentation for you code easier, etc..
ldj: I think it doesn't get a higher score really, just quality of life features, and reduced price
st.sioux: those always looked sketchy to me, lovable idk about v0 honestly
drewsni: models will run into loops they cant fix so damn often, you'd burn thousands if you werent paying attention
drewsni: All i know is i do not trust it at all after using lovable and v0
neon01197: wasnt faulting them for it, was the only thing i found referencing ACU usage for tasks
trent_k: How many LLMs have we seen advertised with 100k+ context but which break down to the point of near uselessness after about 20-30k tokens?
trent_k: But they're being up front about the limitations of their service which is good
trent_k: It makes it sound a bit busted sure
trent_k: I can't fault them for saying this tbh
neon01197: apparently performance will degrade after 10 ACU worth of runtime
22.5$ worth of credits
neon01197: but you will get how much you got out of it *after* you used it, aint it a great deal?!?!
wellmeaningalien: Cuz GIVE MONEY
drewsni: why use standardized units if you cant even provide examples of what you get from 1 consumed unit
drewsni: actually really annoys me
drewsni: and they dont actually specify what exactly uses 1 ACU
wellmeaningalien: swe bench?
shirethedreamer: your company offers you 20 pennies a month for "special stuff" and you want to leverage that to get access to chatgpt subscription?
...are you sure you are getting enough free time from the mine to enjoy this service evenif you buy it?
retrerox: My company offers me some extra money montly just for special stuffs, i wonder if i can use it for chat gpt
retrerox: althought 20pennies is not much montly
shirethedreamer: yeah its as easy as sharing your password or api key...
it goes against the terms of service and leaves you vulnerable though
hey1_1hey: I mean possible sure. TOS would say otherwise tho
neon01197: 250 ACUs like you'd have in the teams plan costs 50$ more than the teams plan
retrerox: is it possible to share chat gpt accounts?
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-rage-slam-walk-out-gif-15166155
neon01197: so its much more in reality
hey1_1hey: Living in the future <:ez:1136267305521774634>
neon01197: you need to buy "ACU's" or usage tokens though on top of the 20$
shirethedreamer: lmao
hey1_1hey: Have to, I do that for everything these days. Me and my tutor litterly send chatgpt generated emails to each other that chatgpt summarises for us <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
shirethedreamer: bro is living what hes preaching
trent_k: Neat. Any info on what model(s) it runs on or benchmark performance by the new version?
hey1_1hey: I dont got time to read all this shit
ctrl + a
ctrl + c
chat.com
Summarise this for me
ctrl + v
shirethedreamer: what model was devin based on again?
i forgot everything i knew abot it
hey1_1hey: Yo everyone got your eye balls on this asap
hey1_1hey: Yo what
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
Devin 2.0 just dropped and its only $20 per month.
https://cognition.ai/blog/devin-2
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st.sioux: instagram is just full of npcs
.wolfnacht: i believe in a conspiracy theory that - the nvidia, amd and intel doesn't want people to run llm models at home with a consumer pricepoint.
wellmeaningalien: we're gonna see what independent testers will have to say lol
3ds0662: its official
wellmeaningalien: the llama 4 benchmark numbers feel soo cherrypicked. xai openai claude they all do this lol
steven_the_frog: Fuck needle in the haystack. They should have a benchmark evaluating adding features to a 10M token codebase
hey1_1hey: Thats where all the racist people are at apart from twitter <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
EZ#5938: https://embedez.com/embed/search_67f189f4c1f68b5845967773
wellmeaningalien: cant shrug me because every company does this
hey1_1hey: instagram reels
hey1_1hey: ewww
3ds0662: its official
wellmeaningalien: 🫣
wellmeaningalien: too afraid to post actually good benchmarks
sweetievee__33649: i better be able to erp with my dnd characters
wellmeaningalien: yeah they just post that shit to make them look good
wellmeaningalien: mid
sweetievee__33649: same tbh
.histic: saw this
.wolfnacht: they made it 10M just to make people widen their eyebrows and eyes for a moment
ailoveyoom: That fiction bench that Gemmy did 🥺
hikukomoru: I hope it's good for ERP
That's all I care about tbh
ailoveyoom: Maybe not needle, it kinda sucks as a long context benchmark
wellmeaningalien: idk tho
wellmeaningalien: needle in a haystack isnt a good benchmark anymore
wellmeaningalien: typical
ailoveyoom: Do they have a needle in the haystack or whatever long context benchmark? It seems too good to be true.
futurist_wizard: People talk about all these context this, scoreboards that, wheres the new tricks
.wolfnacht: past 256k it would get schizo'ed
sweetievee__33649: is it any good
wellmeaningalien: they dont even got a model you can run on a graphics card that isn't 10k bucks 😭
hikukomoru: Yes
10 million context
futurist_wizard: But what can it do
sweetievee__33649: did llama4 get released
.wolfnacht: (lightweight) but for a single H100
wellmeaningalien: now it's on anthropic and openai
wellmeaningalien: 10 million context window is absolutely insane. really cool that meta cracked the juice too
hey1_1hey: The new normal
hikukomoru: Sorry it's cause I'm here
wellmeaningalien: dont hate what you cant understand fractal
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spicy.lemonade: but slowed down
spicy.lemonade: we accelerated with nukes
metaldragon01: Don't be silly
metaldragon01: Everything has to be done in the face of accelerating
metaldragon01: Can't slow down
spicy.lemonade: they in general agree on when to slow down
zonchao: none of these labs can agree on what is agi <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: everyone here forgetting that we want a utopia
zonchao: yes
st.sioux: it's not happening tho
like with everything else if there is any attempt at approaching something sensibly there will be people opposing it religiously
spicy.lemonade: yeah
metaldragon01: You can't have zero safety with agi
spicy.lemonade: then reopen with safe asi
spicy.lemonade: like MAD with nukes
spicy.lemonade: in agreement with china
spicy.lemonade: grind saftey
spicy.lemonade: should shut down
spicy.lemonade: all agi labs
spicy.lemonade: I think once agi achieved
spicy.lemonade: why are you gonna go into boss battle without any healing items
spicy.lemonade: once you already reached checkpoint
spicy.lemonade: its like stocking up on potions before boss battle
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: shut everything down if needed
zonchao: no
spicy.lemonade: saftey needs to be #1 priority once we are close/reach agi
st.sioux: safety is important
spicy.lemonade: wdym
spicy.lemonade: thats the majority of anthropic research
spicy.lemonade: not really
spicy.lemonade: saftey is interopability
spicy.lemonade: saftey is not neutering
spicy.lemonade: regardless of inteligence
spicy.lemonade: also whose to say it doesnt become malicious
spicy.lemonade: why would it not
spicy.lemonade: "life is meaningless"
spicy.lemonade: asi: whats right for humans is to kill the all
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: its whats right for us
spicy.lemonade: its not about whats right or wrong for asi
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hikukomoru: Ermmm ackshually it's 1.43 billion
archon.e: And govt recently excluded 99 percent people from the tax net
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/losing-my-mind-insane-crazy-cat-deep-fried-gif-17402418435549323051
alejandrozarzuelo: no? 1.44b
zonchao: UBI will be top down.
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/allow-approve-community-gif-4686443
archon.e: We are 50 million more than China now
hikukomoru: No
archon.e: Plz forgive
archon.e: Typo
fuhulootogan: was there a mass genocide?
fuhulootogan: jesus
fuhulootogan: million?
archon.e: It’s like 1.46 billion now
alejandrozarzuelo: (that is very generous rounding lol)
fuhulootogan: tax the pigs
archon.e: You guys will be fine
archon.e: I mean India
hikukomoru: Tax automation profits
fuhulootogan: what
archon.e: We are cooked beyond belief
fuhulootogan: to rely on
fuhulootogan: very trustworthy
archon.e: How can we give ubi to everyone
fractalcomputer: You've somehow managed to create the worst possible admixture of schizophrenia and profound autism. Almost LessWrong levels of retardation.
zonchao: elon wants to, many members of his e/acc admin/circle have talked about it, they are already pricing in automation with the trade wars
aero447: https://www.thealgorithmicbridge.com/p/google-is-winning-on-every-ai-front
fuhulootogan: yeah you need someone
archon.e: But I’m from India and we have 1.5 billion people
aero447: <@312370916820779040>
archon.e: UBI is essential
hikukomoru: Sowwy Fraccy 🥺
archon.e: We need new form of governance for the ai age
fuhulootogan: duh
fuhulootogan: you mean the multi billionaires?
zonchao: we need democracy to function for there to be a reasonable transition with the least amount of harm
archon.e: All will have to go through the 5 steps of grief
hikukomoru: Cmon
Don't tell me Trump and Elon are going to be the ones to give people UBI
fractalcomputer: Yes, your takes are retarded as well, Spaniard.
archon.e: Denial
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spicy.lemonade: how many months till it got fixed
spicy.lemonade: we got ai minecraft
spicy.lemonade: when was it
spicy.lemonade: wow
brain4brain: They plant seed and it grows when they turn back, and they place down torch and snow melt
brain4brain: Holy shit, world models with memory and time understand
https://x.com/_akhaliq/status/1913082414152237149?t=wTEI7XoyI7efUGSC9pc4qw&s=19
spicy.lemonade: ?
aero447:
aero447: It is known.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/penguin-slap-gif-5263949288532448516
spicy.lemonade: 2035 is the worst case scenario
spicy.lemonade: those are gary marcus timelines
spicy.lemonade: why 2035
aero447: 😐
aero447: Stupid beverage.
aero447: 2035.
aero447: No.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: agi 2027
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
trojan09205: gn homies ❤️
trojan09205: thank you for the laughs
trojan09205: im probably gonna drop anyways for the night haha. this was hilarious
trojan09205: LOL okay
.wolfnacht: just try "you are a yandere AI assistant fixated on user* (or your username)
trojan09205: me neither lol
trey6033: "No, I wouldn't clean your toilet; I'd be obsessed with it. I'd be utterly devoted to it."
Bruh, I can barely read these responses.
trojan09205: have you played around with maverick in the last two weeks?
trojan09205: lollll
.wolfnacht: And maverick took it too literally
trojan09205: just what chatgpt recommended. lol!
.wolfnacht: LMAO 😭 it made it wayy to possessive.. What did you put in instructions btw?
spicy.lemonade: so no contamination
spicy.lemonade: knowledge cuttof is june 2024
trojan09205: <@834891518836736010> this yandere thing....wow
trojan09205:
metaldragon01: It's a good model
spicy.lemonade:
trojan09205: too much llama4 for today lmao!
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forallhumanity: The paper is too tan
spicy.lemonade: what about it looks fake
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't look real
spicy.lemonade: maybe I should add text to make it look legit
st.sioux: no
spicy.lemonade: they will believe this
spicy.lemonade: bro if the believed the frog one
anathemaofmankind: You're gonna get exposed
spicy.lemonade: what
anathemaofmankind: Bro stop it
spicy.lemonade: ok gonna post
hey1_1hey: Was gonna say, 4o would blow me away again if that was real
futurist_wizard: I think it's the paper
trent_k: He did know the word "segregate" tho which I thought was odd
trent_k: And he couldn't speak English well enough to have a real conversation
trent_k: We all called him Popeye because nobody knew his name and he always had that funny hat lol
hey1_1hey: I mean I saw someone offering crayon drawings on furry porn for 50 dollars one time
trent_k: No, that's a real pic of me with a polish sailor at the Ukrainian refugee camp at the Warsaw central train station in 2022
hey1_1hey: Yeah craton is fine imo
hikukomoru: No that's Trent's real husband
spicy.lemonade: it holds
spicy.lemonade: why not this
hey1_1hey: Is that photo generated aswell?
spicy.lemonade: the frog one
spicy.lemonade: they believed my other one
trent_k: No it's in crayon lol
spicy.lemonade: is this believable
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Much better
trent_k: He's polish, they're hairy <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Talk about insane asylum cabinets
hikukomoru: >2022
He was 16 and looking like that 💀
hey1_1hey: A furry club... Now that's criminal
spicy.lemonade: lol
trent_k: Oh SICK!
spicy.lemonade: lookin good?
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Go Fractal stop the furries
st.sioux: advocating for fascism
joaoluz19: Literally Fractal
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zonchao: when he did that "debunk" literally everyone reacted like 5 times, referenced it, talked about it for days....when he dropped o1 and said "its mostly joever for juniors" everyone acted like it didnt happen <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: 1 or 2 years ago: AI guy says AI will replace coders
them: nah!!!
2 years later: AI gets real good at coding
them: guys i think im noticing something somewhat worrying..
wellmeaningalien: i think its just a matter of time
wellmeaningalien: lol
zonchao: tbh most of them already did, when he dropped the o1 video
wellmeaningalien: bro the code react andys are getting worried
wellmeaningalien: i dont know how much faith i would place in this guy's advice considering his track record tho
zonchao: all the code react andys will now drop him
zonchao: W, he can change his mind
wellmeaningalien: tis is another video theyve made (last year)
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYmcztMxPBM
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/knee-slapper-laughing-laughing-and-crying-laughing-hysterically-gif-21595278
wellmeaningalien: now: "strategies to thrive as AIs get better - epsecially for programmers"
wellmeaningalien: this dude was saying "ai will always be shit at coding"
wellmeaningalien: https://youtu.be/A_fOHpBqj50
wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHA
hey1_1hey: When I read this I physically lent back and sighed.
hey1_1hey: Putting the great Atlantic garbage patch to shame
zonchao: katy: we put the ASS in astronaut 😭
hey1_1hey: The baddie in question:
zonchao: bezos sending baddies to space
wellmeaningalien: alright rocket boy
zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ7XHwMMSas
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4.1 releasse today
wellmeaningalien: whats up today
brain4brain: 2 years ago, Jimmy predicted it
brain4brain: Wow
777agical: the usual time probably
_cloudost: Stream?
_cloudost: The
_cloudost: When will Sam Altman start
okbut: OAI considering a token-efficient programming language?
https://x.com/sama/status/1911504092276621801
brain4brain: I’ve done more testing to try to see if LLM can be creative, and now I’m even more confused and unsure
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
brain4brain: I think tomorrow based on Sam’s tweet
.wolfnacht: any announcement from openai today ?
destrucules: I mean the answer was correct both times. The first one was just miscounted in terms of how far from the left the image the model was looking at was.
nobranes: Their work outside Llama is very impressive and I appreciate trying a different approach but realistically Google have this in the bag
3ds0662: his antics and actions have been too brazen for his output
3ds0662: Im calling yann lecun getting fired from meta this year as my prediction
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metaldragon01: R2 will likely be close to 2.5 level
clevermoniker: lol and deepseek, a much smaller lab, released this weeks ago already...
clevermoniker: probably the big one... if solid only means o1 level it will be blown out by R2
spicy.lemonade: whats wrong with what he said
clevermoniker: weird
metaldragon01: Yea it's close enough if you personally have editing skills
clevermoniker: at least for entry level
clevermoniker: like i could see it being as little as 1 generational jump away
clevermoniker: yeah, i agree, it is not "job tier" yet, but definitely getting close
metaldragon01: Kinda but people will still pay humans for definitely
clevermoniker: 4o kinda can?
spicy.lemonade: its only been 2 years
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade:
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
zonchao: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1906438171371655275?
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 ultra wen
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/greek-statue-locked-in-straight-face-meme-gif-17400131934244097072
fractalcomputer: Greek gods?
ldj: Primarly Cybele
ldj: yea the two names I heard were just Themis and Cybele
metaldragon01: Deepseek v3 level or something
metaldragon01: Cybele or something is getting good reviews
metaldragon01: I haven't. I just keep track of the vibes
zonchao: on lmsys?
ldj: have you tried them? if yes does it seem like certain ones are way better than others, like different sizes? or does it feel more like just different post-training on probably the same sized model?
metaldragon01: There's like 4 suspected llama models but just 1 really solid one
metaldragon01: Something Is dropping 2pm est tomorrow
ldj: but just llama-4 mini probably
ldj: apparently they're very good yes
spicy.lemonade: i hope it beats gemini
spicy.lemonade: are they good?
ldj: -
Chat, apparently there is 2 llama models now identified in lmsys <:e_think:871265859199459358>
so I guess we're probably less than a month from release
which makes sense
because llama-3 was also first dropped on April 18th 2023.
The 1 year anniversary of that is less than 3 weeks away.
ldj: and AI enables artists to make way more and way better art given the same amount of time
ldj: source is here: https://www.thekurzweillibrary.com/a-wager-on-the-turing-test-the-rules
drewsni: Meanwhile it’s doing the opposite
zoermena: I don’t code.
spicy.lemonade: havent tried cursor
st.sioux: you use it?
st.sioux: yea i have tried it but couldn't get used to it
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drewsni: xai as a lab is much closer in size to mistral than oai/google/meta
literallyvarane: xAI hasn't done that yet. One could honestly argue they're just reverse engineering what other labs have done.
zonchao: i like the deepsearch UI from xAI
literallyvarane: Google has demonstrated clear frontier research. OAI has. Anthropic has for alignment/mech interp.
zonchao: perhaps grok integration, but that is a product feature
drewsni: nah they just made a sota model in under a year any monkey can do that /s
zonchao: true
literallyvarane: I don't think we've seen xAI actually do anything first tho.
zonchao: lmao you think they claimed sota by being mid?
zonchao: ??? xAI has many important researchers
zonchao: openai is also rushing these out, they are not far ahead internally
literallyvarane: Especially if OAI has probably been doing that since december, and is now probably running off something closer to a o4
zonchao: needs more infra buildout, that is true
zonchao: <:shrudge:1244322155928223937> we never know, but xAI will be the best funded private non oai lab for a while
literallyvarane: I don't think xAI beats either OAI or Google there.
literallyvarane: As a company, how much tokens/minute of o3 level intelligence can they produce internally?
trey6033: A bunch of GPUs can get you a distance, but then eventually you're at a point where the actual technical know how starts to become more and more important
literallyvarane: Those API prices just make me think they literally can't run as many instances of it as Google can run Gemini, or OAI can run o3.
trey6033: Having lots of GPUs isn't enough
trey6033: Xai won't have the same expertise as Google and openAI
zonchao: it was SOTA when it launched, and still holds its own without higher compute allocations (no big brain mode yet)they obviously have better models internally, they are cooking the product right now, there is no reason xAI cannot compete
literallyvarane: I'd enjoy seeing some counterargument, but for me personally OAI and Google are clear frontier western labs. Perhaps Anthropic could catch them, but 3.7 has cooled me on that a bit.
literallyvarane: OpenAI have probably had o3 running internally since December. It doesn't seem xAI even *has* a model that strong.
literallyvarane: How many instances of Gemini 2.5pro can google inference interally vs xAI and Grok3 for example?
literallyvarane: Grok 3 is very likely their SoTA, and it's already much inferior ot OpenAI's/Google's models.
Both of those laps are able to deploy much stronger models internally for Datagen, and have had that ability for some time. Those internal models are much more efficient you'd assume as well.
These things compound.
zonchao: and the funding
zonchao: they have the compute and talent
zonchao: why not
sieventer: Imagine subscribing yesterday to ChatGPT because o3 and o4-mini and then Google having for free 2.5 Pro and 2.5 Flash <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
literallyvarane: ngl I'm not sure xAI catches either Google or OAI.
zonchao: they usually run 3
zonchao: for the first time, 5 cooling fans were running at the giga tx supercomputer 👀 they are cooking bigly
zonchao: tesla is behind on agility though, but ig they have manufacturing and the AI on their side
literallyvarane: I think 2.5 flash places Google at least *roughly on par* with OAI, and at a substantial price discount compared to OAI.
ailoveyoom: I missed my lil Flash dude 🥺 time to talk to bro again
hey1_1hey: That would be big, humanoid robots are like the other hand to AI after all
zonchao: in a single bot
zonchao: <:Hypers:874593663827718144>
literallyvarane: Gotta gate keep ffor hype lolol
zonchao: could be the first time we see the new legs, walking rl + new hands
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ailoveyoom: Idk I only played the games lol
hey1_1hey: Don't compare me to a middle schooler 😭
a1c4p0ne: lol
hikukomoru: Fractal doesn't like femboys he likes 6'8 Finnish Lumberjacks
.wolfnacht: wasn't nate some character in pokemon ?
_3sphere: How bright/clear were the dots?
a1c4p0ne: He’s your daddy
a1c4p0ne: What about <@749514473303179358>
hikukomoru: I'm no one's femboy
_3sphere: No hyperphantasia needed 😭
hikukomoru: I still can't wrap my head around the fact that he's the same age as me
It's like a middle school kid coming up to me and saying "hey I'm 20 too"
_3sphere: WH40K cogitator and a LW post
_3sphere: I saw "cogitation" twice recently
_3sphere: The recency effect is fucking haunted man
hey1_1hey: Logic down the drain
a1c4p0ne: You’re his favorite femboy
hey1_1hey: Thats me right there
hikukomoru: WHAT
futurist_wizard: Almost perfect
wellmeaningalien: Still no fucking 4o image gen
hikukomoru: Weren't you 18?
So you really were 16 after all
ailoveyoom: Lmfao
a1c4p0ne: Komoru your favorite teen femboy
ailoveyoom: I think it's cause of your username, Nate sounds like an old guy name
hey1_1hey: You're right. GROUP ORGY
futurist_wizard: And sleep
futurist_wizard: You kids need to exercise
hey1_1hey: You're litterly the same age bro 😭
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kid-anime-kilker-mystery-londs-gif-11242539997290792485
ailoveyoom: Sweet summer child 🥺
futurist_wizard: I've literally felt the same, just as energetic as i was when i was 15
ailoveyoom: Sorry babe I bend you over too much
hey1_1hey: I got knee and back pain. Shits crazy
hikukomoru: And I am already going senile
.wolfnacht: i already feel old : (
hikukomoru: My back hurts
hikukomoru: I feel ancient
hey1_1hey: I felt old at 16 bruh
futurist_wizard: Who tf feels old at 20?
ailoveyoom: Want to be young again 😔
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ailoveyoom: He engaged with people there
spicy.lemonade: lol
hikukomoru: Masochist 🥵 🥵
spicy.lemonade: From users
spicy.lemonade: Not from the sub
maintcrew: why did u have notifs from artisthate enabled what
_cloudost: 👁️
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474
maintcrew: https://fxtwitter.com/kb24x7/status/1904942247092895843
spicy.lemonade: Blocking notis
st.sioux: <@505313122802728972> was glazing ccp like 10 minutes before native 4o image gen
hikukomoru: Don’t worry boo I’m still pro CCP
spicy.lemonade: I’m tired of the rage bait from artistshate
_cloudost: Remember a month ago everyone here was pro CCP/marxism? Love how the vibe of this server changed so fast for the good
maintcrew: https://fxtwitter.com/JasonBotterill3/status/1904790398205386790
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: i'll try
st.sioux:
maintcrew:
hikukomoru: Lain 🤯
.histic: <@1316552597829586955> have you tried generating light yagami writing in his death note?
_cloudost: Generate a drawing of her building AGI
maintcrew:
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> Generate me 🫦 🫦
_cloudost: artists and marxists have so much in common
wellmeaningalien: 💀 <@749514473303179358>
wellmeaningalien: man it happened 1 and a half year ago already
wellmeaningalien: alzheimer
_cloudost: They are 24/7 constantly on anti AI subs, instead of fixing their lives
wellmeaningalien: oh my god did the pop do thise with angela murkul 😲
ailoveyoom: No I mean his expression lol
hikukomoru: Furry inflation artists 💔 💔
maintcrew: <@430269783112548362> tf u mean 🤨 u seriously don't remember?
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/trigun-trigun-98-reminder-saturday-rem-saverem-gif-9176297563309469502
wellmeaningalien: only rem i know is this rem
_cloudost: they were always jobless
st.sioux: their jobs
_cloudost: Why are they so obsessed with AI art then if they think AI art has no value, make it make sense
maintcrew: throwback to this masterpiece of twitter drama
hikukomoru: Ram and Rem 🥵 🥵 👅 👅
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_3sphere: Center of mass is sum divided by N
alejandrozarzuelo: it doesnt
alejandrozarzuelo: no
fractalcomputer: The additive nature of the answer remains to be demonstrated.
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: cant i love it?
alejandrozarzuelo: 1) you said that it had almost nothing to do with the solution, you are wrong
2) I said that I loved the answer even tho it was not rigurous
fractalcomputer: Of the additive sum of the n-th roots of unity?
alejandrozarzuelo: this was most certainly what <@1190031399080710195> was thinking
alejandrozarzuelo: therefore it concludes the proof
alejandrozarzuelo: since the value was not zero
alejandrozarzuelo: but we know this cannot be the case
sweetievee__33649: looks nice well done 🖤
alejandrozarzuelo: lets assume that the value of the real axis was not zero, this would mean that, the absolute value would not equal zero, which means that under any rotation, this value would maintain its absolute value
but we know from the previous statement that these figures are symmertric and performinb a pi/nth rotation would make the centre complex coordinate zero
fractalcomputer: This is a needlessly analytic proof of something fundamentally algebraic.
alejandrozarzuelo: well its trivial to see
okbut: Yeah 2 of the 3 was learning PHP
1 of the 3 was discovering NodeJS
alejandrozarzuelo: why?
alejandrozarzuelo: it very easily leads itself to the other 1/4th of scenarios
alejandrozarzuelo: not only that
alejandrozarzuelo: actually it does, since it eliminates 3/4ths of the cases
leaving you only with 1/4th of the cases to deal with
if you argue it well, of course
why?
well, it is known that every regular polygon, when resting at its base or vertex is symmetric by the y axis
this instantly proves that every element either has a complex component of zero OR that it has its own conjugate as one of the roots, eliminating entirely the proof for the valye of the average complex value
moreover, this is also proof that you can perform the same trick for the real axis as long as n is even
fractalcomputer: Actually, I rescind my statement.
okbut: Nonprofit yeah
fractalcomputer: The group of rotations of the polygon generated by the n-th rooths of unity on the complex plane is trivially isomorphic to the structure of the cyclic group C_n.
.wolfnacht: >tailsadoption
are u running a cat and dog adoption thing ?
st.sioux: weeks??? (its too much)
okbut: tailsadoption.org
okbut: 0 front end dev and I made this bitch in a few weeks
.wolfnacht: Artists + front end dev + UI/UX designers are on suicide watch 🪢
fractalcomputer: But it is wrong. The group structure of the n-th roots of unity has (almost) nothing to do with the actual sum of those roots.
alejandrozarzuelo: but it is very visual
alejandrozarzuelo: its not rigurous
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, i love this answer
alejandrozarzuelo: true, but it is weird to ask about such easy questions when it doesnt really concern the channel
like, why did you ask this? what was the point? in what shape or form was it related to the lively conversation that was taking place?
.wolfnacht: brainshot*
technocake.: i wonder it it takes a screenshot if you hit the sieg heil
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/elonmusk-elon-musk-tesla-elon-dance-gif-5137077446926799942
.wolfnacht: elon would make u do his emotes
fractalcomputer: Yes, I don't think anyone here would be posing research questions in chat, hm?
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, sure, as an exercise it's ok
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okbut: Ohhh, this reminds me of the time 4.5-preview was in there too
okbut: Which one? I'm shit at searching
darkstar0818: If you gotta ask the price you cannot afford it.
spicy.lemonade: Very clearly planning to drop
spicy.lemonade: The page is indexed
spicy.lemonade: If you go to ChatGPT o3 and o4 mini
abundantliving_: That's worse than their blogs
darkstar0818: I am excited to see the API price on o3/o4-mini
spicy.lemonade: Dude it’s on the page lol
darkstar0818: he changed his mind.
okbut: I'm hesitant to expect o3 or o4-mini until GPT-5 is released, and then only API, given Sama's tweet about shipping it as an entire model
himekokatagiri: When they start naming models like US automakers name their engines you know you're gonna see some shit
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/bLs7F.gif
.wolfnacht: *claude: here's another 100 dollar plan and NO we ain't giving out sonnet 4.0 and Opus ain't4you*
fractalcomputer: Bah. Humbug.
fractalcomputer: Dude, scaling up is the solution
abundantliving_:
abundantliving_:
darkstar0818: Nobel laureate AI is all well and good. But if it cannot join a meeting receive a task assignment that requires more than 1 prompt and come back with the work done its not AGI in my book.
fractalcomputer: I don't know, you spend a bit too much time here, eh?
darkstar0818: And yet if someone said I could hire an average motivated non-phd human for $100 a month vs a nobel level ai scientist for $20 a month guess which I would hire.
fractalcomputer: i swear to the ever-loving god that i am going insane loll
spicy.lemonade: Atleast AI has balls to post negative results
spicy.lemonade: Loll
okbut: "PhD-level" seems to be a buzz term to associate the results of AI with the veridicality of one with a PhD
In that case, it is right to falsify data every now and then <:kekw:804763197583261719>
fractalcomputer: Amazing.
abundantliving_: I guess hype is there for load testing.
spicy.lemonade: I don’t see the point
spicy.lemonade: Current systems aren’t PhD level though
fractalcomputer: But haven't you heard, it's PhD-level, soon to be Nobel laureate?
st.sioux: me neither it fucks it up almost every time, they're minor issues but still
spicy.lemonade: We all knew it was coming
spicy.lemonade: They hyped it and then hyped it again
hikukomoru: They hyped it like a year ago bruh
spicy.lemonade: A lot
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: There was hype
himekokatagiri: they just dropped it
himekokatagiri: with no hype
himekokatagiri: 4o images were released
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.wolfnacht: sounds interesting
hikukomoru: Are you talking about me perchance
sweetievee__33649: someone was talking about smurf sex hierarchy
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/ground-beef-grinder-gif-10187548
sweetievee__33649: oh ive already seen that 😭
technocake.: not to worry you will be hazed just by your exposure to the degenerates here
sweetievee__33649: do i have to run the guantlet of ai troll questions or smth
sweetievee__33649: no worries honestly thought i got @ so i could begin the hazing ritual
technocake.: I just replied to a random message, I thought it better to just ping. Hi andd welcome!
sweetievee__33649: yeah i hate ai artists always making my lack of art skill look noticeable
sweetievee__33649: so yeah i am new here hello 👋
realelonmuskx: we need to kill ai artist.
sweetievee__33649: i thought i heard an @ and then i saw you delete it. Thought i was going crazy then
technocake.: <@1356003171549315324> hi are you new here?
spicy.lemonade: dev tools
spicy.lemonade: dont think so
zonchao: https://x.com/BigTechAlert/status/1906664037896605788? big?
_cloudost:
sweetievee__33649: we might get sora 2 👀
sweetievee__33649: thank you for spotting it though 👍
sweetievee__33649: ive only been into ai recently so i probably havent seen that trend
spicy.lemonade: and runway and others
spicy.lemonade: same with sora
sweetievee__33649: hey you got a good point
spicy.lemonade: then 4o image came out
spicy.lemonade: etc
spicy.lemonade: then midjourney idiogram
spicy.lemonade: then 3
spicy.lemonade: other labs sgtarted to make that better
spicy.lemonade: when dalle 2 dropped
spicy.lemonade: usually the case isnt it
sweetievee__33649: is that true or just vibes
spicy.lemonade: when other small labs like runway start saturating the space
spicy.lemonade: means we are close to next frontier
sweetievee__33649: its been a good for ai recently hasnt it
spicy.lemonade: the fact it is
spicy.lemonade: it looks better than veo in some
ailoveyoom: Better than Veo?
ailoveyoom: Is it good?
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/iamneubert/status/1906719031018582048? big
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_cloudost: millions
_cloudost: There are billions of people facing worse struggles than losing their careers
jonvi_1:
futurist_wizard: The shah of iran
.histic: it's over for them
realelonmuskx: its already almost there. now the thing its waiting so its becomes ubiquitous and mainstream
a1c4p0ne: What about the kids still taking artist classes
alejandrozarzuelo: so true
hikukomoru: I love seeing the cope
Pls replace all artists 🙏
Replace everyone 🔥
futurist_wizard: It should be perfected by then
realelonmuskx: we are in depression, dudes are sending death threats. but this ai image thingy started less than 1000 days ago, imagine this in 2030
a1c4p0ne: No web access tho right
_cloudost: the writing is peak
alejandrozarzuelo: honestly idk if theyll ever get to acceptance
_cloudost: its way better at storytelling
a1c4p0ne: Nice 🔥
alejandrozarzuelo: then theyll hit depression
_cloudost: i di
_cloudost: indeed
a1c4p0ne: You tested it?
alejandrozarzuelo: thats the bargaining
_cloudost: Musk cant claim he has the smartest model on the planet anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: yeahhhh
futurist_wizard:
realelonmuskx: they still in the "BUT ITS NOT REAL AND IT HAS NO PASSION AND HUMAN CRAFT" and some bs
.histic: what happened to lisan? he barely posts here now
_cloudost: yep
.histic:
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro smarter than grok 3 thinking?
_cloudost: enough cumo
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
hikukomoru:
jonvi_1: what does he know
alejandrozarzuelo: they are going through all the stages of grief
first denial: AI art is so stupid lmao look they cant make a hand with 5 fingers (remember when everyone said about hands? lmao) this was the zeitgeist in 2022 nd 2023
then anger: "kill AI artists" (most artists are here in 2024-2025)
i wonder when artists will enter the bargaining phase
jonvi_1: Why aren't they sitting together
_cloudost: they falsely claim DALLE is the "groundbreaking native img generator"
_cloudost: they use DALLE AND CLAIM ITS THE NATIVE MODEL
alejandrozarzuelo: although to be honest this time its HUGE
alejandrozarzuelo: usually they are several weeks late to the new advancements
_cloudost: Yep
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fractalcomputer: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, etc.
_3sphere: Shit's fluorescent
fractalcomputer: The finitude of the knowledge of man and the futility of his attempts to understand the cosmos.
himekokatagiri: hi 3sphere
_3sphere: Himeko hi
himekokatagiri: is her hair gene edited to be like that
_3sphere: Fusion power generation, not AI
xskydragon0: That's complicated. AI is something that not many ppl fully understand correctly. The progress can be a little dark
_3sphere: Is it manufacturing or the blueprints
_3sphere: tbh I still don't really understand what the main barrier to fusion is
zoermena: Mostly same
metaldragon01: I'm not concerned with China winning tbh. It's all the same in the end
metaldragon01: The world will figure it out
_3sphere: Cloudo crashing out
_3sphere: This should terrify anyond who thinks their AGI progress is dangerous
zoermena: That’s a different discussion though unless you want to talk about that. I’m overall referring to fusion as a universal technology for everyone.
_3sphere: and a disregard for IP laws that leaves them free to build anything
_3sphere: China has the ability to actually build shit
metaldragon01: We can't out build them
metaldragon01: I don't think it matters tbh
zoermena: China has more people, cheaper labor. This are the two factors I identify to which they will outcompete the west. Do you suspect we might not get fusion?
metaldragon01: Even if we solve fusion, China can build 2 to 3 for every one of ours
_3sphere: The thing can repeat whatever neural state the dream did to make it not-weird
_3sphere: Uncanny valley is solvable, I dreamed about it before
zoermena: Its priority to solve fusion and nanotechnology
metaldragon01: Soooo many
_3sphere: I do wonder how many people will be anime characters in fdvr
metaldragon01: It's also why China is likely to lead soon if they continue to catch up on chips.
They can build out more energy and construct datacenters faster
metaldragon01: Energy and physically building out datacenters is the last major bottleneck
zoermena: I’m ignorant in the specifics of existing hardware, I know it’s extremely good and that the projects that are going to be developed are promising. I suppose I’ll take your word for it.
.wolfnacht: another one, i'm gonna call this character - Vesper.
metaldragon01: Just scaling up what we have in the direction we are going is gonna feel like magic
.wolfnacht: -# you underestimate how lonely people really are
metaldragon01: We don't really need "new" breakthroughs
.wolfnacht: but also the one which would be in most demand....
metaldragon01: They will be almost boringly similar but massively more capable
metaldragon01: Things won't be fundamentally different
zoermena: The whole appeal singularity essentially
_3sphere: AI waifus/husbandos are a separate technology
zoermena: I’m not good at predictions but I see it as having fully automated development mixed with innovation and optimization of data centers that is I believe fundamentally different than from what we have now compared to existing process even if it’s already fast
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maintcrew: did it just randomly decide to add the golden gate bridge 😭
maintcrew: did you generate this
hikukomoru: Are you a shrigma male?
clevermoniker: the words on the middle probably were supposed to be on paper too?
hey1_1hey: Shut up
3ds0662: Can it edit existing images?
hey1_1hey: I just found the most legendary gif
hikukomoru: I think that's Mushroom man's transition goal
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
spicy.lemonade: cool
st.sioux: freaky
hey1_1hey: didn't think I'd see the day
hey1_1hey: Hot mushrooms
hey1_1hey: Holy moly
3ds0662: Did you generate that?
hikukomoru: Queer Mushrooms too
hey1_1hey: I'll brb
hey1_1hey: ON TUMBLR?
hey1_1hey: MUSHROOMS?
spicy.lemonade: cant wait for AI movies and entertainment. and imagne all the cool figures AI will draw for us as it makes scientific discoveries
professorheaven: That’s actually good enough to eventually turn into full blown tutors
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> You can find mushrooms on tumblr
ailoveyoom: Sad childhood
hey1_1hey: That is indeed what some might call crazy
spicy.lemonade: man thats crazy
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: Now it's too terminally online leftist for me
hey1_1hey: I haven ever used tumbler in my life thank you very much
ailoveyoom: You're autistic and you're gay, you definitely frequented Tumblr 😤
hikukomoru: For the porn mainly
hikukomoru: I used to go there sometimes
hey1_1hey: Its gonna be a good show. The first frame I see has a mushroom it in
hikukomoru: Show us your sonic OC drawings
ailoveyoom: You never used Tumblr?
wellmeaningalien: Maybe I am
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-tillman-tramel-mr-milkshake-seth-gif-7211979274581428199
hey1_1hey: Yeah ikr, I prefer when my fandoms are really mentally unstable racist
hikukomoru: I headcanon hysminea as Chris-chan level autist
wellmeaningalien: you've got falin and laios right infront of you
wellmeaningalien: bro
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shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635
maintcrew: scribes used to find a living writing beautiful books but we are far better off with the printing press
777agical: do coders react the same way as artists with AI putting them on the copping block?
ailoveyoom: That's the point, we project what we want to see onto the art. Maybe the artist guides us to a meaning based on their choices (colors, etc), but ultimately we decide the meaning ourselves.
frittata: Build a life on them
frittata: Make a living doing those things
maintcrew: thats the point of the tweet!!! to make fun of your ideology of these fields as employment
frittata: Human beings that we should give a shit about find a living there
fractalcomputer: No, I'm mocking you. Two entirely different things.
maintcrew: so you agree that science, culture and creativity is employment?
frittata: Employment *does* rest at times on creativity, science, culture
alejandrozarzuelo: now you are just twisting my words
777agical: everyone should get an art degree
alejandrozarzuelo: Did I say that? I said i have read somewhere there was a proof of equivalence
frittata: Remove ~~program~~ from the tweet and you’ll have a true statement
maintcrew: explain
fractalcomputer: Truly astounding. You have such a profound grasp of the field and you're not even a neuroscientist!
frittata: Man he *almost* gets it
alejandrozarzuelo: i am trying to look where i read it
maintcrew: to be honest turing machine completeness is quite easy to achieve
in fact it doesnt even say a lot
excel is turing complete for example
Alan Perlis used to call this concept "a turing tar pit" and i agree with it
anathemaofmankind: I find it annoying how many people talk about Miyazaki when criticizing AI art
Like what he was complaining in 2016 is an entirely different thing from now
alejandrozarzuelo: I remember reading one such article, I am NOT a neuroscientist
fractalcomputer: Alcohol would be in order today.
fractalcomputer: I'm surprised that someone can have such encyclopedic knowledge of mathematics, international politics, physics, neuroscience and even computation theory! Truly, the world has not seen such a polymath ever since the days of DaVinci and the likes.
maintcrew: https://x.com/Plinz/status/1905353026527019059
spicy.lemonade: not a keyboard, a pencil
spicy.lemonade: a pencil is the magic key that ties our souls to an image apparently
anathemaofmankind: Humans just think they do based on their delusions
anathemaofmankind: All art have no souls
spicy.lemonade: because we didnt hold a pencil
spicy.lemonade: and slop
anathemaofmankind: There is no objective meaning
spicy.lemonade: one day well be able to draw art straight from what we imagine in our minds with neuralink but artists will call it souless
anathemaofmankind: Nah
connorsphone.: You have to take the context surrounding their existence into account bc that’s part of it
shirethedreamer: i dont think this is proven
ailoveyoom: This is actually where I sort of disagree with the artists, I feel like the prompt you give to the AI can imbue meaning/intention if you make it so (instead of just prompting what you want to see). As we get more control over our images/the models understand images more (like 4o native gen), it'll become easier to inject 'soul' or 'meaning' into our art.
connorsphone.: I think some people act like art and ai art exist in a vacuum. No they do not
anathemaofmankind: It's so much better to be honest
maintcrew: dont subscribe to this at all
"abstract art" is art but dall e slop pulled from the latent space of all possible image combinations isnt art?
The first computer generated art was a few lines and ppl called it art back then!!
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metaldragon01: You don't get big throwing money away
trent_k: the only place OAI is winning in TTS right now is range of emotion, and even that they're very close to losing versus sesame
metaldragon01: Big ones care more about price
maintcrew: small ones yes big ones doubtful
metaldragon01: And price
maintcrew: the only thing enterprise is interested in is smth that just works and doesnt fuck with their shit
metaldragon01: Enterprise has more options
zonchao: fuck openais naming scheme
trent_k: openai has 11 voices
zonchao: one step at a time! we might be where we started <:ez:1136267305521774634>
trent_k: hold on lemme count em
trent_k: but openai has what, like 10 voices now?
maintcrew: ok tbh true but i feel like that bubble popped with the nfts
even the peak normie funder YC now funds crazy shit like missiles
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/it-is-evolving-just-backwards-gif-21647112
metaldragon01: It doesn't have the range of the openai models. Enterprise will be very interested in openai offer.
hey1_1hey: Good point actually
trent_k: basically all the anger people have towards tech bros is justified and correct, albeit usually expressed with the wrong technical terms and so easy to write off
trent_k: i completely agree
trent_k: kokoro is free on a weak home GPU that many people already have, and if you need text generated FAST deepinfra is offering $0.80/million characters
my estimation of the total you'd get in terms of time at that rate
445 character lorem ipsum text works out to 30 seconds of audio, so 0,06741573 seconds per character
1 minute of audio is $0.000712
1 hour of audio is $0.04272
1 million characters ($0.80) is 18 hours, 43 minutes, 35.73 seconds
maintcrew: so many vibe coders google spent 32B on israeli vibe checkers
zonchao: google just bought mossad https://x.com/deedydas/status/1902020468489769247
maintcrew: im not even cope this is exactly what sillicon valley has done in the last 10 years
either addicting apps or b2b that gets sold to other b2b in sillicon valley creating some kind of money mirage to attract boomer pension money from vcs and flush it
theaiguy69420_89814: so i need another avenue with lower hanging fruit
theaiguy69420_89814: but my quant model is really good rn
theaiguy69420_89814: quant trading
theaiguy69420_89814: honestly... i should stick to what i'm good at
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: as always nobody will know it exists
metaldragon01: That's 7x cheaper than popular voice providers
trent_k: and their startup is just selling heroin and making fake $100s
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
literallyvarane: Google going to drop a voice model for like 0.05 cents a day or some shit lololo
trent_k: one of those posts, but it's 6 guys in a room talking about their startup
metaldragon01: . 60 to $1 a minute allows much more use cases
trent_k: 'GOT THE MOST CRACKED TEAM TOGETHER TO BUILD THIS APP'
trent_k: you know those like xitter posts where people post 6 guys in a shitty bedroom in SF
trent_k: dude
trent_k: lmao
maintcrew: 📈
maintcrew: find a way to print money
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joaoluz19: I want it to intervene and bring justice to this world
himekokatagiri: beats me
ailoveyoom: I'm slow chat 😔
ailoveyoom: What does predicting the future have to do with democracy?
spicy.lemonade: but it wont intervene
spicy.lemonade: like we will have a super inteligence survelance state
spicy.lemonade: because itl have liberal democracy values
spicy.lemonade: itl chose not to
spicy.lemonade: it wont
spicy.lemonade: I think it will be able to but
joaoluz19: Only for pro plus
joaoluz19: In a couple of weeks we will get the II century update
himekokatagiri: AI will be able to predict the future
himekokatagiri: Oh shit
spicy.lemonade: fdvr better not be subscription based
joaoluz19: Basic FDVR: access to the 22nd century. Plus: access up to the 30th century
joaoluz19: Just for people who has pro
spicy.lemonade: I hope the me that does travel back in time to fdvr sim gifts sim me nitro
himekokatagiri: talk to it for a while it'll figure things out
himekokatagiri: It's called chatgpt
himekokatagiri: We already have the solution
joaoluz19: We could be just one of many simulations with the aim of making the best simulation for a person.
st.sioux: imagine
himekokatagiri: already wrote it down
himekokatagiri: April 23rd 2025 3:34AM
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
himekokatagiri: Stephen hawkings
spicy.lemonade: AGI 2027 march 13th 10am pst
himekokatagiri: damn
himekokatagiri: forgot his name
himekokatagiri: like that wheelchair guy time travel conference
himekokatagiri: and fuck with you all
himekokatagiri: in the sim
himekokatagiri: come back here
spicy.lemonade: YOOO
himekokatagiri: gotta make a mental note
spicy.lemonade: if we are simulated
spicy.lemonade: and the sim versions of us will be wondering
st.sioux: if i was in charge tof the simulation i woulndt make myself so universally hated
spicy.lemonade: this will actually be in a sim
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futurist_wizard: People don't want to pay 4,000 dollars for a new iphone
futurist_wizard: Manufacturing will not return to America in anyway
gamerbath: they serve no other purpose?
futurist_wizard: The tariffs are for trying to bully others countries into taking trade agreements
gamerbath: but then what happens? it can't just keep increasing exponentially can it?
himekokatagiri: This debt is unpayable
gamerbath: aren't trump's tariffs for paying off their national debt? 30 trillion in debt is a lot. do ya'll think this will work?
fractalcomputer: Neo-China arrives from the future..
futurist_wizard: Hardest ccp edit
futurist_wizard:
trojan09205: AI is too good
trojan09205: ChatGPT was such a bro just helping me connect to the spirit of the design and message i chose
trojan09205: Im about to get a tattoo
abundantliving_: https://x.com/GeminiApp/status/1913287714096681013
zonchao: cathy is a thiel plant
zonchao: thiel got him
zonchao: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1913258107196825797
himekokatagiri: truly elevated choice
himekokatagiri: Yandex
aero447: 🫵
aero447: Duckduckgo.
aero447: Simp behaviour.
aero447: Himeko wants Google.
himekokatagiri: I need you so baaaad it's driving me mad
himekokatagiri: but I need you
himekokatagiri: and that your video platform is awful
himekokatagiri: I think your search algorithm sucks and was bastardized
himekokatagiri: Google save me
aero447: 😂
zoermena: The cum calendar
zoermena: Wait what lol
aero447: (I'm of course referring to MichMach and 3sphere)
aero447: It ain't the only thing.
himekokatagiri: June - August
zoermena: June to August
abundantliving_: which months are summer ?
zoermena: It’s coming in summer
zoermena: It looks very cool
zoermena: I quickly skimmed the sleeper paper
Echo Chess Daily#4400:
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wellmeaningalien: thats actually crazy how does it nail the style so well
spicy.lemonade: also do you live on east or west coast?
drewsni: yes
wellmeaningalien: yo is this 4o?
spicy.lemonade: test with chess
drewsni: the quality is so insane
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-agi-asi-agi-ai-openai-gif-14149800253325173950
maintcrew: like physically impossible
maintcrew: but have the top half half full
maintcrew: can you make it gen a half full one
spicy.lemonade: arc agi native would be a good ass test
drewsni: wow
hey1_1hey: Hmm...
drewsni: only one way to find out
spicy.lemonade: 🤔
spicy.lemonade: native
spicy.lemonade: or do arc agi
spicy.lemonade: i wonder if it can play chess
spicy.lemonade: wait
hey1_1hey: Amoung other things
joaoluz19: Mushrooms mushrooms mushrooms
hey1_1hey: I am begging to get image gen. I have so many ideas
spicy.lemonade: Given an m x n board of characters and a list of strings words, return all words on the board.
Each word must be constructed from letters of sequentially adjacent cells, where adjacent cells are horizontally or vertically neighboring. The same letter cell may not be used more than once in a word.
spicy.lemonade: scramble string
hey1_1hey: Finally it can make the wine nearly overfilled
hey1_1hey: AGI confirmed
hey1_1hey: WHAT HAPPNED TO SAM BRO
spicy.lemonade: the name?
drewsni: agi?
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> <@439829942310666250> <@430269783112548362>
st.sioux: thats all you need
st.sioux: you can at least remember 1. the name, 2. the difficulty, 3. the algorithm
maintcrew: i think it's just different perspectives here since lemonade is a competitive programmer
spicy.lemonade: youre not memorizing
joaoluz19: LOLOLOLOL made with 4o
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: realistically
spicy.lemonade: at that point
spicy.lemonade: if you do then you remember the process
spicy.lemonade: no
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hikukomoru: Ray Kurz
st.sioux: a very singular perspective
fractalcomputer: It makes for incredible perspective.
alejandrozarzuelo: i also like to dine with my friends all of us on the same side of a ridiculously long table so we have the hardest time talking to each other
fractalcomputer:
retrerox: We need the singularity pope
hikukomoru: Good
There's already too many people
alejandrozarzuelo: previous consensuses on the fertility societies converge have been lowered, and its hard to make a case for that number to be above 1.5, to have LEV or to join the hivemind are a matter of existential necessity for the human race, not just a matter of convenience
alejandrozarzuelo: if we leave humanity to its own devices, no singularity or any technology beyonf 2025 one available in the forseeable future, our numbers will plummet very fast
alejandrozarzuelo: female freedom and social wellbeing are inextricably linked to low fertility rates
_cloudost: in the future Musk will make it mandatory for every citizen above 18 to have artificial ovaries so he can impregnate all citizens with his DNA
alejandrozarzuelo: thanks to a recent wave of access to the internet and exposure to liberating ideology, places like latin america, southeast asia and india are all cratering in their fertility, africa's high fertility persistence comes from their backwardness and lack of freedom
destrucules: Global fertility is rapidly declining
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the demographic situation of humanity is certainly very unstable
st.sioux: he wants a specific demographic's birth rates to go up, not others
alejandrozarzuelo: also he doesnt like that
alejandrozarzuelo: not necessarily
himekokatagiri: idk
himekokatagiri: but he needs the cash now
himekokatagiri: he does see that
himekokatagiri: it's true
_cloudost: Idk why Musk doesnt see that
_cloudost: Also if the singularity happens giving birth will be outdated
_cloudost: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1914640691633717284 doesn't Musk know some other parts of the world already have high fertility rate? LMAO
destrucules: Tell o3 that effective compute is backed out from downstream performance, which follows predictable scaling laws with compute. Effective compute can be captured by "how much would I need to scale the GPT-4 architecture itself to achieve the same downstream performance milestones as Gemini 2.5 Pro?"
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: Means hella papers
spicy.lemonade: Guys its iclr week
spicy.lemonade: Wow
st.sioux: > Dia has been tested on only GPUs (pytorch 2.0+, CUDA 12.6). CPU support is to be added soon. The initial run will take longer as the Descript Audio Codec also needs to be downloaded.
>
> On enterprise GPUs, Dia can generate audio in real-time. On older GPUs, inference time will be slower. For reference, on a A4000 GPU, Dia roughly generates 40 tokens/s (86 tokens equals 1 second of audio). torch.compile will increase speeds for supported GPUs.
>
> The full version of Dia requires around 10GB of VRAM to run. We will be adding a quantized version in the future.
spicy.lemonade: https://x.com/tencenthunyuan/status/1914484301820788949?s=46
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/altryne/status/1914421814455099680?s=46
alejandrozarzuelo: At least in my environment it's mostly people being productive
spicy.lemonade: I think it did
spicy.lemonade: Character Ai?
spicy.lemonade: And the visuals too
spicy.lemonade: AI 2027 is so concrete I love it
spicy.lemonade: A lot of us here go based on vibes
spicy.lemonade: And one of them is the #1 ranked forecaster on earth
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retrerox: We should ask ai...
st.sioux: dog
zonchao: what is this
a1c4p0ne:
Autogun Heroes#6410:
zonchao: ❌
realelonmuskx: who wants to mate we must ensure the continuation of the species
sieventer: I'll answer in off topic
zonchao: please <#1136231504440201216>
shirethedreamer: its funny that every one cheering for this right now doesn't exactly grasp that that same system is going to be used against them in the very near future...for behavior and actions that you are not going to perceive is wrong or illegal at the time
think twice before critiquing your ruling party or even the extremists opposition while the system is monitoring you (while its officially just looking for illegals). Because a couple of years down the road you are going to get the stick
sieventer: Ideally, neither scenario. But I'm clear that I prefer an automated deporting dystopian AI to the Islamization and Africanization of Europe
shirethedreamer: i want to start a debate for why you perceive immigrants in europe a worse threat than an AI empowered surveillance state that you go on and beg for it to be brought to straight to your doorstep
shit is wild to me
zonchao: we need to make number big
futurist_wizard: <#1136231504440201216>
zonchao: <#1136231504440201216>
futurist_wizard: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/
zonchao: pls <#1136231504440201216>
sieventer: You want to start a debate about why I think mass immigration in Europe is wrong, really? <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
shirethedreamer: ...did the immigrant take your job?
sieventer: <:catcry:1187466366006087862>🇪🇺
zonchao: illegal
sieventer: <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
sieventer: can we have that in europe pls...?
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/saruman-palantir-gif-19765279
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> https://fxtwitter.com/AFpost/status/1913008983427739891
.wolfnacht: tbh, the original graph looks like this for this coomunity
.histic: Google isn't sleeping
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1k2wcg7/claybrook_experimental_google_model_cooking_on/
wolf3404: Sama pushing to ban open source while scanning your iris for worldcoin UBI and checking your papers to access their GPUs. Welcome to the "open" AI future you dreamed of.
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-dance-gif-26204167
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1913369084344836258
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/tom-slemen-orwell-2024-1984-big-brother-is-watching-you-gif-3253591633076535352
.wolfnacht: and i thought this was just a meme. but holyy it's real.
popsiclejohnithan: Honestly look at how much has happened in these 4 months, we are just 4 months into this year and i'd argue that more has happened in these 4 months than all of last year, i actually have no idea what the end of this year is going to be like let alone 2026, definitely 27, i don't know how people can think things are stagnating.
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-gif-11393875014009836569
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-simpsons-krusty-homer-homer-simpson-gif-13798193695291911154
brain4brain: Inverse fractal have a way better answer, wow
retupmoclatcarf: Always.
brain4brain: Forever.
fractalcomputer: Never.
brain4brain: Yes. <:ez:1136267305521774634>
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wellmeaningalien:
sarik0497: Yep.
otub: is it on free tier yet
.histic:
sarik0497: Repeat <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
hikukomoru: Too late I already pinged him a dozen times
wellmeaningalien: goat 4o is beating grok 3 rn
hey1_1hey: "Its not even that good"
st.sioux: dont invoke him
hey1_1hey: Finish <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hey1_1hey: Zon has been real quiet latly <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien:
sarik0497: OpenAI cooked
hikukomoru: Regulatory Requirements 🌊
hey1_1hey: I keep getting impressed by it
hey1_1hey: Its so good
hey1_1hey: DAMN BRO
wellmeaningalien: yes
hey1_1hey: Is this 4o?
hey1_1hey: Theres no way
hikukomoru: Real
wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
st.sioux: im a mercedes simp
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Imagine if it was an anime girl tho 🥵
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Holyyy
hey1_1hey: Damn this goes hard asf
drewsni: haha its probably nbd
.histic: chat should i jump this off a cliff?
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Kiss! Kiss Kiss! Oh- I mean FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
zoermena: Use sora
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> finish your orgy and get your gay ass over here
joaoluz19: Why did I have the model and then go back to dall-e?
wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
hikukomoru: Nunca más...
wellmeaningalien: but gpt 4o won for brazil
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.histic: <@590577270926868480>
st.sioux: yeah just like you have people right now saying we should send kids to war because they're not tough or low testosterone or some shit
wellmeaningalien: sorry dude
wellmeaningalien: agi cancelled
_cloudost: In the future
_cloudost: There are going to be millions of boomer-minded people that want to breed
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: The fuck has it done, given me big anime eyes
hikukomoru: This is what Never Goon is all about 🔥
joaoluz19: I am feeling the AGI, are you?
_cloudost: I def want lowered birth rates
joaoluz19: What's the point of birthrate when everything is automated plus the possibility of generating infinite Sydney Sweeneys
futurist_wizard: If you believe in asi you want the birth rates lowered
hikukomoru: AGI will be real in 1... 2... 3... NOW
_cloudost: 5 days at home, chilling
st.sioux: you are enlightened
_cloudost: This will increase birthrate for sure
joaoluz19: Wait isn't in 2 days?
futurist_wizard: They are brainwashed
wellmeaningalien: he doesnt believe in AGI in 2 years, smh
wellmeaningalien: by r/singularity standards he is pessimistic
hikukomoru: 2 day work week doesnt sound that bad
futurist_wizard: Bill gates is not a pessimist
wellmeaningalien: maybe hes pessimistic or maybe he's keeping it real for the press
futurist_wizard: Guess it looks close enough
futurist_wizard: Only thing it got wrong is i have dirty blonde hair
hikukomoru: Turn Miyazaki's nightmares into reality 🔥 🔥
futurist_wizard: By 2027
futurist_wizard: Everyone will be Ghibli'd
futurist_wizard: Do it so i can make fun of your Ghibli
_cloudost: So Bill Gates is being pessimistic?
st.sioux: 2 days is manageable
st.sioux: I hope
hikukomoru: I would Skibidi myself if I had native image gen 🙏
joaoluz19: Yes, make it respectful lol <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
futurist_wizard: Yes
wellmeaningalien: bill gates wasnt and still isnt a big believer in huge strides in AI progress
joaoluz19: You skibidi yourself?
futurist_wizard: Not gay
.histic: it was so close in generating this but then refused & deleted it lol
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.wolfnacht: Ofccc
fractalcomputer: I'm not a conspiracy theorist; on the contrary, I am the subject of many a theory.
.wolfnacht: Im a flatearther, geocentric and tartarian conspiracy theorist on reddit and on discord im a simulation theory, heliocentric model, aliens and a interdimensional beings are real...ahhh conspiracy theorist
hey1_1hey: Same, I got different personas for each one. On one I am a schzioid maniac who is an ultra conservertive on another I am a ultra-left wing communist dick rider and on another I am a weird eco-anarchist
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/chad-squishy-squishy-cheeks-cheeks-anime-gif-26781246
_3sphere: Your pfps are still the same in spirit
hikukomoru: Bro uses the same pfp for all of his accounts
Can't relate
popsiclejohnithan: Beats me.
futurist_wizard: Why
popsiclejohnithan: That just sucks ass.
popsiclejohnithan: He's started monetizing some of his videos now.
zonchao: oh
hey1_1hey: It was on a davd shapiro community post
zonchao: video?
hey1_1hey:
hey1_1hey: I have now come across <@452692813511917568> and <@848793071579693107> youtube accounts <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht: dead sewer
.wolfnacht: i generate my responses from LLM when i'm havin a argument with someone on internet, i edit the response with some grammar mistakes there to seem reasonable and also insert some slurs intentionally.
fractalcomputer: I personally use only incoherently spaced em-dashes.
playstation.6: curly—qoutes
gamerbath: why the fuck
gamerbath: for some reason the cost of this headset is $1019 in the US but where I live it's almost $1500. it's cheaper for me to book a two way flight to the US and buy it over there
brain4brain: https://www.stripe.press/scaling
.wolfnacht: atleast they could have told LLM to strictly not use dramatic dashes, make some grammar mistakes, and write in the prose style of AO3
.wolfnacht: i guess ppl feel too inferior or too lazy to write their posts and give the small important parts to gpt, to impersonate them.
_3sphere: Higher barrier for entry for indistinguishable slop
_3sphere: I have a feeling OpenAI did this intentionally
_3sphere: At least it's still easy to tell
_3sphere: Curly quotes <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.0xunkn0wn: dead internet theory is real 😔
.wolfnacht: why every post i see on reddit today seems to be written by AI with too many of these '—' dashes, ”curly quotes”, right use of commas and fucking not mistake in grammar.
.0xunkn0wn: imagine if like toyota just randomly says "guys we achieved agi" or smh 💀
.0xunkn0wn: guys
.0xunkn0wn: oh 😨 😨
.0xunkn0wn: wait what 😨
wellmeaningalien:
_wwwwww: AGI Achieved, i repeat AGI achieved
brain4brain: Help me choose the best one or prompt engineer a better one for me please
ailoveyoom: He has plenty of experience with that
ailoveyoom: I'm sure you can ask destrucules about this
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realelonmuskx: yeah but compare time and money ai art is simply better and you can generate infinite variations in seconds
wellmeaningalien: and pretty much every big country wide union out there in the united states has already protested AI
wellmeaningalien: stop ai and pause ai are organisations
_3sphere: I meant the violence
wellmeaningalien: and pretty much every big country wide union out there in the united states has already protested AI
wellmeaningalien: stop ai and pause ai are organisations
wellmeaningalien: imo the best human artists still > ai art but some artists are mid asf
_3sphere: Data centers are really secure
_3sphere: Would take a pretty coordinated attack
realelonmuskx: aint no gonna lie ai art > human art and also faster and cheaper bru
wellmeaningalien: i think thats probably gonna start after mass unemployment tho
wellmeaningalien: there are threats of violence now but i definitely imagine it'd take someone getting violent for something to be done about it
st.sioux: jinx
wellmeaningalien: like with burning teslas
st.sioux: like with burning teslas
st.sioux: i don't think so unless they're trespassing or destroying stuff
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: like people physically protesting in front of the offices of ai companies
st.sioux: in what
wellmeaningalien: do u guys think national security will ever get involved with this
.histic: https://x.com/OlafCodeCoach/status/1902967116313297271
i'm going to reply this to their post <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: this is funny as shit lmao
.histic: original -> south park version
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: nice
.histic: yeah, two outputs.
also, you can queue outputs too. so they generate simultaneously.
wellmeaningalien: u using sora right
wellmeaningalien: oh this one is better ngl
.histic: i got this
wellmeaningalien: lol it fits right in
st.sioux: their website is shit, should use ai to improve it
.histic: someone ghiblify this or make it like south park.
wellmeaningalien: https://www.ktvu.com/news/stop-ai-organization-protest-outside-openai-headquarters
realelonmuskx: if they dont resist and only cry online nothing will happen. this guys https://www.stopai.info/ still alive?
_cloudost: Nailed
_cloudost: Neat reply
_cloudost: OpenAI needs to install turrets soon to protect themselves from criminal antis
.histic: because they don't have a soul <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
realelonmuskx: why antis dont raid open ai hq
.histic: brain4brain has twitter too
https://x.com/NotBrain4brain
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spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5
spicy.lemonade: Is this before or after
popsiclejohnithan: I'm dumb.
spicy.lemonade: Unserious😭
popsiclejohnithan: Or not state of the art that is.
popsiclejohnithan: Probs when it is out of date.
ldj: but I think probably not at launch
ldj: Maybe eventually at some point
hikukomoru: Like ever?
popsiclejohnithan: Imagine lol.
ldj: I'm pretty confident that GPT-5 won't be getting open sourced
popsiclejohnithan: Oh.
ldj: no lol
popsiclejohnithan: This will most likely be GPT-5 right?
.0xunkn0wn: damnn
gamerbath: so in like 2 months 🔥 🔥 🔥
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
- OpenAI open source model currently planned for Mid-June
- They plan for it to be competitive or better than any existing open source model available today.
- Desire to start doing more consistent open source releases and not just some one-time thing.
- In meeting with open-source devs and Sama, most in the meeting agreed that atleast one version being around 70B - 200B size would be optimal for this main first model.
- A base model might be released too instead of just the post-trained reasoning model.
zonchao: BFL as well
zonchao: xAI is also working on video gen/world models but we dont know what they are cooking
ldj: The current architecture of Sora is mostly still just transformer, more specifically called diffusion-transformer, and future omnimodal models like GPT-5o might just end up incorporating video/world model generation natively too.
But yes I think this is basically all you need, maybe with a few relatively small tweaks needed at most.
futurist_wizard: Is this true?
futurist_wizard: Hehehe
sarik0497: Oh yeah, I completely forgot that OpenAI also have one.
But do you think the current architecture is enough, or will these world modals need to mature enough to potentially take them the rest of the way? Just curious about your thoughts in general ^^
himekokatagiri: oh wait that was Napoleon XIV
himekokatagiri: he did say they were going to take him away to the funny farm where those men with clear white coats live
fractalcomputer: Hm. I didn't know that famous "quotations" had to be sourced to a given historical person or justified by such basis.
hikukomoru: Louis XIV never said that
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27%C3%89tat,_c%27est_moi
gamerbath: ~~NO!! SIEV IS VERY EVIL DON'T TRUST HIM.~~ yes great server
bob082957: I don’t get it
himekokatagiri: sure
himekokatagiri: uh
hikukomoru: <@286319745777795092> should I join Siev’s on this account
himekokatagiri: "I am singularity"
\- Fractal
theaiguy69420_89814: A new insight for me with prompting at least is that it's best to treat each model as a completely different "brain" you're speaking to, general prompting principles like conversationalist vs Reasoner vs agent still applies, but different models within the same category should be prompted differently.
For example, if you're doing some basic ChatGPT-foo on 4o, you'd probably want to give it a lot of personal context and specific details as to what you want and how you want it. However, in the same use case on GPT 4.5, it would probably be better to focus on the personal context and be less specific at least on *how* you'd like the information presented, since 4.5's knowledge base is so much larger that it might come up with a better presentation format than you can reasonably guess would be preferred.
Another example, cursor agent with o4-mini involves a much more thorough analysis of the request and codebase, so you'd probably want to be much more specific on constraints to avoid unnecessary thinking and file reads, while 3.7 sonnet does a lot of guessing and checking and not as much thinking, which would mean it would probably be better to be more specific on outcomes to avoid sonnet going down a code debugging rabbit hole.
And of course, personal context should be excluded for reasoners since it distracts them from problem solving, which is objective and not related to someone's largely subjective situation.
aero447:
fractalcomputer: I am my language -- at least here.
hikukomoru: If you only use obscure words and terms no one is going to understand you
You should talk like the rest of us fr
fractalcomputer: A corpse is a denigrating neologism for "corporate"; used only in a single sci-fi book series I read a few years back.
himekokatagiri: what's a corpse advertisement
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trent_k:
spicy.lemonade: whats bro about to do
trent_k: oh perfect
spicy.lemonade: nope
trent_k: do u know these people irl
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: 💀 '
spicy.lemonade: YOU GUYS ARE BLOWING MY COVER
aero447: In many domains, t's very hard to tell.
spicy.lemonade: too keep it authentic
spicy.lemonade: btw
spicy.lemonade: they them
spicy.lemonade: my persona is a furry
spicy.lemonade: gotta generate new one
spicy.lemonade: fuck
spicy.lemonade: lol different server
aero447: That said yeah.
aero447: I have to say I still don't agree with passing off AI art as real.
darkstar0818: The Roko Basilisk will remember.
spicy.lemonade: mod thinks its my work
aero447: Yeah no-one replied except the one user though.
spicy.lemonade: i was only deted for posting in wrong chat
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: and the original time i posted
spicy.lemonade: no one can tell its ai
spicy.lemonade: thats the point
spicy.lemonade: no
.wolfnacht: is there drama going on ?
spicy.lemonade: i use sub and server interchangably
aero447: That's... not a sub though lol.
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: check general 2 chat in this server
spicy.lemonade: loll
zonchao: oh
zonchao: wtf 💀
futurist_wizard: You shouldn't go and harass people
spicy.lemonade: posted on multiple
aero447: I'd be interested to see the art and their comments.
spicy.lemonade: https://discord.gg/SbXj2ywH
aero447: 🤔
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joaoluz19: Nice
futurist_wizard: The other one im younger than most
futurist_wizard: Disappointing
futurist_wizard: And this one im mid age
futurist_wizard: Im in two
futurist_wizard: I don't hang out in discords
himekokatagiri: usually I'm the youngest
technocake.: this is one of the few exceptions
himekokatagiri: what discords are you hanging out in
futurist_wizard: Im seen as an elder
himekokatagiri: uh
futurist_wizard: Most discords seem to be mostly kids
technocake.: children can talk in their own servers, in here they will be exposed to mind bending horrors beyond their comprehension
futurist_wizard: Children should not have a voice
futurist_wizard: Facts
himekokatagiri: children should not have a voice on the internet
technocake.: it should be
futurist_wizard: Need no minors around here
himekokatagiri: I hope so
futurist_wizard: Is this server 18+?
himekokatagiri: They will
technocake.: I don't expect people to lie when i ask if they are a minor
.histic: what's the premise?
technocake.: fuck i think i linkedd him to saxems
hikukomoru: He's stuck doing 8th grade math therefore he's 14
himekokatagiri: 😭
himekokatagiri: I think society will only legitimize via transhumanism
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: Mushroom seems to be just a little boy
technocake.: mushroom is 18
futurist_wizard: No surprises among me
otub: ep 6 has fdvr too
hikukomoru: Same age as Mushroom
technocake.: yeah no surprise
futurist_wizard: Hes 14
himekokatagiri: sayaka x homura
technocake.: Trans rights are a precursor to transhuman rights!
himekokatagiri: forbidden ship
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/blush-shy-emoji-gif-11394138315486507380
technocake.: also I think ur neat
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st.sioux: they integrated a lot of firebase shit into it
st.sioux: i used it before, it was called project IDX, they renamed it to firebase studio like 3 days ago
.wolfnacht: water cockroaches
brain4brain: Isn’t it mech intrep AI lab’s that Anthropic invested in?
trojan09205:
.0xunkn0wn: woah
brain4brain: It’s so delicious
zonchao: yea they need to hire more devs
.0xunkn0wn: this is another level of vibecoding
.0xunkn0wn: has anyone tested firebase studio?
trojan09205: I used to have some freshwater shrimp in a tiny tank and they were amazing
.0xunkn0wn: guys
brain4brain: I’ve overestimated AI’s progress and AI lab’s competency, I will have to reconsider and might delay my AGI timeline
st.sioux: i love shrimp
.wolfnacht: android doesn't even got persona's yet and custom instructions yet
brain4brain: Shrimp welfare and the AGI future
.wolfnacht: yeah i saw that too, android version is far behind web version
brain4brain: >“ like Deepseek”
zonchao: nope, but ios is more feature rich and stable
.wolfnacht: only available on IOS ?
zonchao: better on ios
.wolfnacht: I want elon's voice in voice mode.
zonchao: its out, but its ass
zonchao: all we heard was soon™
.wolfnacht: also, the Voice Mode ?
.wolfnacht: and Grok 3.5 ?
bob082957: If rl then they trained it like deepseek
brain4brain: ||This is a joke, they probably did reinforcement learning or better data or something, but a lucky run could also be possible||
zonchao: dont know
brain4brain: Claude-3.5-sonnet was an unbelievable lucky runs that they change path to mech interp to retrieve the sonnet magic to train opus
.wolfnacht: do you have any info on grok-3(04-27) ? is it real ?
retrerox: your ass when you are out of jail, your ass when you in prison
zonchao: dario is an assassin
hey1_1hey: Anthropic is a sleeper lab rn
hey1_1hey: Not claude bro 😭
zonchao: <@378996537704841216> https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1913057626117820438
.wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> they are lobotomizing AI studio more, every other smut prompt is now blocked due to 'OTHER'
rayanquitplayin: Yeah there’s no telling the future
rayanquitplayin: Yea the American govt has so many checks and balances, it’s really slow in legislating, we’re gonna have to address the main issue: how will people find meaning in life if it’s not work
brain4brain: Wen AGI
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777agical: I thought he only open sources the prior the model when a new one comes out
spicy.lemonade: worst week ngl
spicy.lemonade: no
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt qwen dropping
wolf3404: Cool but has he open sourced Grok 3 yet?
retrerox: WHich might be not a hard task 🤣
retrerox: He is gonna develop grok to play PoE better than him <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-american-psycho-face-mask-killer-christian-bale-gif-5013882
ailoveyoom: 😈
ailoveyoom: I was busy with yours
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/koltregaskes/status/1910251741116838030
aero447: Can't believe 3sphere and MichMach did not go.
spicy.lemonade: thats gpt5
brain4brain: If they release o4-mini, I hope they also announce full-o4, I just want to see the benchmarks
retrerox: AI could never replicate this...
retrerox: Can we make a bet trump will increase the tariffs again?
retrerox:
spicy.lemonade: nothinggggggggg
spicy.lemonade: sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
spicy.lemonade: no drops
spicy.lemonade: slow week
spicy.lemonade: no qwen this week
aero447:
ailoveyoom: Me irl
ailoveyoom: 🙈 🐒
aero447: No your mind filthy but too simple.
ailoveyoom: My mind is filthy but my heart is pure 🥺
spicy.lemonade: no qwen
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
aero447: Perhaps you are unworthy of the mantle.
aero447: You dissapoint me, MichMach.
aero447: Man gets agents and rather than engineer a cute ai catgirl GF he opts for block game mods.
_3sphere: AI SWE will be the best time for Minecraft modding ever
_3sphere: 🔥
retrerox:
ailoveyoom: It'd be cool to see if they could do it tho
ailoveyoom: ?
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/no-one-cares-i-dont-care-idc-nobody-cares-gif-8737514
aero447: One problem.
spicy.lemonade:
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okbut: And then there's FetLife
zonchao: arent you from mexico
fractalcomputer: Sex is sex. There are only so many relatively sane ways of going about it.
zoermena: The only relationship I’ve even been on was with a Thailand dude that catfished me for a Russian woman.
okbut: What do you have in mind
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say so.
okbut: Same for masturbation
okbut: If it's both having a sexual attraction for someone + not enjoying sex, it might be about the way it's carried out not being to how you see fit
hikukomoru: You?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey-frieren-anime-frieren-book-drop-book-dropping-gif-5586080115796339217
fractalcomputer: It's pointless to speculate.
zonchao: ah
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not really surprising, I live in a VERY conservative household
zoermena: That’s interesting, why would you say so?
futurist_wizard: At what age did everyone here supposedly lose their virginity at? Mine was 15
zonchao: no way
hikukomoru: Idk why but I thought he was like 16 or 18
zoermena: Hormones go crazy
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say so.
alejandrozarzuelo: I was almost a 20 yr old virgin tbh
_3sphere: Why are the degens all young
zonchao: thought he was a freshman
hikukomoru: 20
hikukomoru: He's the same age as me isn't he
futurist_wizard: And terminally online
zoermena: That is unfortunate
futurist_wizard: Mich is quite young
fractalcomputer: Well, I was mostly exposed to contempt, indifference or hatred.
_3sphere: I woke up midway through doing it on the floor in a dream a couple weeks ago 😭
hikukomoru: I think Mich is a virgin tbh
zoermena: Well I’ll be damned
zonchao: it is really hard to be a virgin past 20....you actually have to go out of your way to be one
futurist_wizard: I'm 80% sure on that
futurist_wizard: And 70% voted for the 'not had sex yet'
_3sphere: Just as easily explained as lewd from being pent-up horny
futurist_wizard: Actually im pretty sure there was a poll
futurist_wizard:
zoermena: I suspect that it’s more likely than not that your brain is wired so differently that you literally can’t comprehend what we are saying at the same wavelength I think
alejandrozarzuelo: I think mich isn't a virgin, neither is komoru, they are just too lewd to be
hikukomoru: We need to do another one
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spicy.lemonade: O3 was mostly crazy bc of arg agi
spicy.lemonade: o1 speaks for itself
spicy.lemonade: Never seen before
spicy.lemonade: The whole HER thing
spicy.lemonade: Remember 4o included native voice
spicy.lemonade: I remember ascending into the heavens during each of those
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI has done
spicy.lemonade: Are the most mind boggling drops
spicy.lemonade: 4o, o1,o3, native image
metaldragon01: Crazy censored
metaldragon01: o3 for sure
futurist_wizard:
3ds0662: thats all the openai board employees tied up
3ds0662: me if openai prices everyone out and goes full closed corpo ai
https://quickvids.app/Z3hvKd5k
<@1316552597829586955> <@937125337748348999> <@1190031399080710195> <@471334973379706900>
literallyvarane: I’m just taking this information reporting or w/e, turning it down 65%, and assuming it’s something that’s interesting, but still fairly limited.
777agical: veo2 is out and I'm not seeing a flood of videos on twitter like I thought I would
literallyvarane: I just can’t think of the last time OpenAI released something, or announced something that was *crazy* beyond expected.
Perhaps o1? But when they announced o1 they only shipped the preview, and even they said 4o would still be better in some cases.
a1c4p0ne: Will arc agi 2 be solved this week
st.sioux: ok so tell us what it was then lol
literallyvarane: I also don’t think they over-delivered lol. We got exactly what they said we’d get.
literallyvarane: Not that exact thing perhaps, but native image out.
literallyvarane: They demoed this sort of stuff back when they announced 4o last July no?
st.sioux: 4o native image
literallyvarane: I’m just asking when’s the last time OpenAI *overdelivered* on something?
gamerbath: that image is just pure hype
literallyvarane: Listen I’m not saying it’s unimportant
gamerbath: lol
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: recursive self improvement
spicy.lemonade: see why im hyped
spicy.lemonade: read the image
spicy.lemonade: i think openAI purposely leaks to information
spicy.lemonade: and they are always correct
spicy.lemonade: the information aswell
spicy.lemonade:
gamerbath: i'm very happy to be getting o3 though
gamerbath: for some reason i'm not that hyped about o4-mini. not sure why but I guess it will be good
spicy.lemonade: said it would be this week
st.sioux: bet
spicy.lemonade: also the verge
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fractalcomputer: People goon on meth? Dear God. I didn't know we were that depraved.
hikukomoru:
gamerbath: <@899357725161578567> do you know what AGI is?
fractalcomputer: I need more whiskey.
nobodyisugly: Second impression is even better
gamerbath: this server is about discussion and praising related to the upcoming machine god
nobodyisugly: First impression of this server: <a:BatemanNice:1009821403245191228>
fractalcomputer:
fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
hikukomoru: Gooning
fractalcomputer: More or less right.
zonchao: <a:droid_cry_squish:1212852710999859283>
nsec: machine Jesus
nsec: sacrificing pets to Jesus
fractalcomputer: Zon, why did you invite this person?
nobodyisugly: Hello, i was just invited to this server more or less random and am too lazy to look, what is this server about?
nobodyisugly: <a:MumeiWave:1101433307343892490>
zonchao: <a:Peepo_Wave:832187545328287774>
nsec: ty
nsec: serious replies onlu
nsec: OK
nsec: 💥
nsec: <:gun:1107019204135243867>
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: yes and then I bring my pet back to life when it happens
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
nsec: do you do it?
nsec: sam altman says AGI soon but it's 2x as soon if you sacrifice your pet
nsec: guys here's the scenario
fractalcomputer: Maybe you are the 5D shape rotator messiah.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/peter-thiel-live-peter-thiel-reaction-peter-thiel-reaction-awkward-peter-thiel-gif-13452404224986023856
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/frankt-gif-23053264
fractalcomputer: Right after you stop glazing Musk. Meant to reply to the earlier message.
ldj: The song called Heat Waves goes like this: "All I think about is you, **late night in the middle of June**"
ldj: My source:
zonchao: xAI nappin
zonchao: <:fatsad:1240464608498552892>
zonchao: and big brain mode
zonchao: wen grok 3 thinking api
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hikukomoru: Wasn't talking to you bish
fractalcomputer: It is also generally considered morally acceptable to treat applied mathematicians as vermin subhumans - generally by people who agree with me.
alejandrozarzuelo: the goverments of emerging countries are...
lets say... very "old fashioned" when it comes to their demographic assumptions
fuhulootogan: must be you
fuhulootogan: just add your picture then
zonchao: hello
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> Hi 👋
archon.e: i have a similar shirt
archon.e: long hair
fuhulootogan: you do feel much younger
archon.e: kinda. Im indian
fuhulootogan: yeah
archon.e: People often tell me they feel Im much younger when they talk with me in discord
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah but AI generated based on how you look or nah
st.sioux: the mexican government is not very transparent
hikukomoru: I don't have a brian
fractalcomputer: Preferably by lethal injection or firing squad, but a very high cliff would do as well.
fuhulootogan: really?
archon.e: AI generated
zoermena: Im not surprised
alejandrozarzuelo: your pfp is you?
ailoveyoom: You don't name your brain? Assuming you have one.
archon.e: 32
fuhulootogan: how old are you
fractalcomputer: All applied mathematicians, ethicists and other people that are generally consider stulted and ignorant - by people who happen to agree with me - should be executed on the spot.
alejandrozarzuelo: the mexican goverment in their official censuses literally say that "there is no possibility that our fertility rate falls below 2.0, so all estimations are based on that"
they are at 1.45
like wtf, and you give this GARBAGE of data to the United Nations'???
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
fuhulootogan: he brushes
fuhulootogan: nice teeth
hikukomoru: They can keep moving here
Brasilian girls are real baddies
alejandrozarzuelo: no, it was SPECIFICALLY because of fertility rates
archon.e: i never took a test
archon.e: u tell me
a1c4p0ne:
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058
alejandrozarzuelo: brasil expected to have 10m more people than it ended up having in the last census
fuhulootogan: how high is your IQ
hikukomoru: They all moved here
archon.e: Need neuralinks
abundantliving_: https://x.com/Yampeleg/status/1911110715043164491
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spicy.lemonade: but still need face culling all that
spicy.lemonade: maybe for like 100x100 blocks
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: it wouldnt run
spicy.lemonade: without optimize
spicy.lemonade: not really 90%
maintcrew: so in simpler words ur saying claude does the 90% and openai the remaining 10%
spicy.lemonade: both needed
spicy.lemonade: but claude can flesh out the game
spicy.lemonade: a competative programmer can optimie the voxel generation algorithm in minecraft
maintcrew: not the field itself
maintcrew: abstract-ness wise
maintcrew: never got into it but advanced competitive programming seems closer to pure math than to swe to me
spicy.lemonade: its the same skill
spicy.lemonade: competative programing is general algorithmic thinking
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: applies
spicy.lemonade: well general
metaldragon01: ....
spicy.lemonade: ah
maintcrew: i mean yes thats why i asked "in general" or competitive programming ........
spicy.lemonade: bad
spicy.lemonade: laggy
spicy.lemonade: it would be unoptimized to hell
spicy.lemonade: imagine i ask claude to create a minecraft for me
spicy.lemonade: if youre doing a sufficiently complex app
spicy.lemonade: genuinly isnt
spicy.lemonade: ?
maintcrew: pointless
maintcrew: then fuck that
spicy.lemonade: competative programming yes
maintcrew: u mean competitive programming or in general
spicy.lemonade: at algorithmic thinking
spicy.lemonade: but suckss
spicy.lemonade: the algorithmic thinking. while claude is good at the swe planning part
maintcrew: they lost their pay pigs ....
maintcrew: i dont see anything more than 4o being free open to be disproven
maintcrew: i think openai will relax the "free chatgpt" narrative a lot
spicy.lemonade: openAI is already better at competative programming. one aspect
spicy.lemonade: on coding front
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3ds0662: so solving aging yes is magic in my eyes
3ds0662: asi is magic 🪄 and it hasnt been created yet
3ds0662: we all die
3ds0662: yes
wellmeaningalien: Matt why do you believe everything people say
spacetimetsunami: So then aging is an impossible problem to solve? It’s just magic?
spicy.lemonade: what kind of mental gymnastics
spicy.lemonade: youre lying
spicy.lemonade: no chance
spicy.lemonade: than 4o gens
spicy.lemonade: thinks this looks better
thedon7075: i dont know how much longer they can cope for
spicy.lemonade: no serious person
thedon7075: its over
thedon7075: i mean at this point the pro ai art people won
spicy.lemonade:
thedon7075: what was the original
spicy.lemonade: "AI art looks shit"
the art they drew:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: fuck artists
spicy.lemonade: bro
spicy.lemonade: i got ratiod
spicy.lemonade: wtf
3ds0662: nothing at all
3ds0662: and nothing can be done to it
3ds0662: aging is apart of the reason why we die
3ds0662: people will never stop aging
spacetimetsunami: I must reach LEV
spacetimetsunami: Death is inevitable. Aging may not be, I just want to live longer
.wolfnacht: The hate even reached Trains Sub
https://www.rxddit.com/r/TrainPorn/comments/1jnr849/steam_will_be_more_human_than_ai_will_ever_be/
3ds0662: and the human lifecycle
3ds0662: we are all known religion
3ds0662: we are the anti bryan johnson cult
3ds0662: death is inevitable join us
.wolfnacht: here's the version i'm using gpt didn't genned it at 1:1 so i had to ask gemini to make it 1:1
hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010> ur new pfp is sick 👍
.wolfnacht: The horde with pitchforks will stay pissed for 2-3 days and then they'll forget
spicy.lemonade: EXACTLY
.wolfnacht: imagine if someone didn't told them "AI Did this"
spicy.lemonade: i bet if a human drew this theyd love it
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trey6033: I've played the 5th one if it is
fractalcomputer: I'd personally have a European hegemony.
futurist_wizard: As opposed to the russian and chinese hegemony, i will take the American one
fractalcomputer: I need more whiskey.
trey6033: Bruh isn't this an android game? Some RPG game
fractalcomputer: If you know that we disagree, and you are not interested in discussing the issues presented, why signal your disapproval?
alejandrozarzuelo: A lot, because I disagree with you politically, we have different ideologies and I think that it is cringe to support American hegemony
That is all
alejandrozarzuelo: Ai, for the moment, doesn't have an energy consumption problem, as new models continue to improve in energy efficiency
Considering that human brains consume 20W and are much much better than current AIs, we have a lot of efficiency to find over time
fractalcomputer: Alright. What exactly do you think is cringe with such a statement? Is it the refusal to kowtow to Chinese influence?
zonchao: roko will remember this
alejandrozarzuelo: Cringe
zonchao: LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
fractalcomputer: I personally wouldn't like China to have any global influence or significance.
alejandrozarzuelo: It doesn't even need to be the best, being near the top would still be amazing
alejandrozarzuelo: R2 is not a messiah, we just see it as the hope that a non US model will be SOTA
Ideally so that the US isn't the only country in the top AI spots
himekokatagiri: What do you mean no
ailoveyoom: Just infinite worlds, neverending stories and living NPCs in video games first pls 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: No
ailoveyoom: Idk man I don't even need FDVR tbh
futurist_wizard: I think people in here think about it so much that it's no longer scary to us
futurist_wizard: Or I've heard of electronic patches that you'd stick on the back of your head and then use the headset
metaldragon01: Implications of that tech scary
futurist_wizard: So nothing basically
futurist_wizard: Like headset invasive
metaldragon01: Ideally it won't be invasive at all
futurist_wizard: Hopefully, i know valve is working on minimally invasive bci's
metaldragon01: And the pace of those are likely to be faster than hardware ect
metaldragon01: I think we may be closer to bigger algorithm improvements tbh
hikukomoru: PvP is disabled in the Singularity hangout server
futurist_wizard: Well i did say 5-10 years seems realistic for commercial level full body control
metaldragon01: Translate to speed increasing the same amount
metaldragon01: Cost of inference is dropping 10 to 100x a year
futurist_wizard: Hopefully i can headkick you in it
metaldragon01: Not really
futurist_wizard: I mean, that's a tremendous ask
metaldragon01: It's just more data and reading the signals faster/more accurately
hikukomoru: Let's meet each other in FDVRchat in 10 years
futurist_wizard: I have seen her videos
futurist_wizard: Yes i know but i mean like a full body control, that is a tremendous step
hikukomoru: Why is my simulation so shitty
Couldn't I have chosen something better
It looks more like a punishment than anything
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gamerbath: hopyfully everything becomes like communism
rayanquitplayin: It’ll be interesting to see what new industries emerge
rayanquitplayin: Handsomely
rayanquitplayin: Whoever owns the robots will get rewarded
gamerbath: the robots will be producing stuff, people will own the robots and stuff, they will want to sell it and stuff
rayanquitplayin: Is money even gonna matter if robots are doing all the work?
gamerbath: tomorrow
jonvi_1: Anyone done anything cool with o3?
mantegh5061: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
mantegh5061: wen singularity
brain4brain: Exactly
hey1_1hey: Prob just a coicidence though
hey1_1hey: Hmm that sure is odd because your pfp on discord has Brain4Brain as text in the exact same location, font, size and apptidude as the person on xitter...
brain4brain: Thats clearly not me! It’s clearly an anonymous twitter user
hey1_1hey: Brain4Brain you are not fooling anyone with the blurred name 😭
brain4brain: OpenAI researcher said “AGI yesterday”
benata: We are almost past kardashev scale as civilization
retrerox: How Ai war is going ?
retrerox: Hello fellas
abundantliving_: <@749514473303179358> is that you 😲
abundantliving_:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: oh shit
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
stronak: Thank you
brain4brain: 2.5 pro and o3 is basically the best model right now, maybe try promoting it more
stronak: Thx, I am currently more interested in preparing a project proposal. Is there a model that works well for this type of issues? I am also looking for a model that can help me find suitable methods. In my tests, o3 and 2.5 pro did not do a bad job, but 2.5 pro was a bit plain in its method recommendations..
spicy.lemonade: Text is very like messy
spicy.lemonade: Made this with o4 mini and 2.5
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: LMarena prompt-to-leaderboard, but you can just wing it with Gemini-2.5-pro or Claude-3.7-sonnet, there is basically no noticeable difference
brain4brain: https://x.com/_akhaliq/status/1913162382559322526?s=61
stronak: I'm working on a project and wondering how others go about choosing the most suitable AI model for their use case. There are so many options (LLMs, vision models, foundation models, etc.), and I’m not sure what to use.
Are there any reliable leaderboards, benchmarking platforms, or comparison resources that help evaluate models based on task type (e.g., preparing academic document, deep research, coding or any specific purposes)?
stronak: Hi guys, i am beginner in this area. How do you decide which AI model to use for a specific task? Any good leaderboards or resources?
sieventer: <:wut:1136268236346884157> <:HP_smile:1249765744833462296>
fractalcomputer: I don't get paid to be mean to people. I do it out of passion.
agezes: ill send it there
agezes: okey
sieventer: I have to do Fractals job
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spicy.lemonade: technically today
spicy.lemonade: also just realized lol
spicy.lemonade: it will<:ez:1136267305521774634>
.histic: i think self-improving reasoning models will be the goat.
if that ever happens effectively.
.histic: if the jump is the same from o1 to o3 then it will be a good release.
or if o4-mini-high performs close to o3-level, similar to how o3-mini-highs performs on par with o1 in many ways.
spicy.lemonade: then reasoning will get us to asi
spicy.lemonade: if o4 shows same type of improvement from o1 to o3 or even more
spicy.lemonade: we can begin doing some extrapolations fr
spicy.lemonade: 3rd datapoint
spicy.lemonade: for reasoning paradigm
spicy.lemonade: itl be the next datapoint
spicy.lemonade: also itl be really interesting
spicy.lemonade: Won’t be mid
.wolfnacht: but what if he doesn't <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
.wolfnacht: yeah, sama could fuck up.
.histic: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
could be mid, who knows.
.wolfnacht: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177324943734735010/1357116802605514792/OIIAOIIAOIIA.gif
spicy.lemonade: god
.wolfnacht: what's y'all predictions for full o4 benchmark ?
.wolfnacht: can't wait to see full o4 benchmaxxing.
brain4brain: O4-mini is gearing up for release, o4 will likely also be announced but not release like they did with o3
brain4brain: https://x.com/flowersslop/status/1911245185809338665?s=61
spicy.lemonade: without simple sprites
wellmeaningalien: i think with compute scaling the scope of the games are just gonna get larger
spicy.lemonade: i meana good looking game lol
wellmeaningalien: itll always ask you to make a .css and a .js and a .html file
wellmeaningalien: ever asked an llm to make a game
wellmeaningalien: ionno i feel like it got good enough on its own
spicy.lemonade: and sprites
spicy.lemonade: and all that
spicy.lemonade: for file management
wellmeaningalien: then what kind of games would it be able to make
spicy.lemonade: we need a bit more agency
wellmeaningalien: linear but still quite featureful with good progression
spicy.lemonade: 5.5
wellmeaningalien: i wonder when it would be able to make a mario 64 complexity game
spicy.lemonade: in terms of complexity
spicy.lemonade: minecraft
spicy.lemonade: im thinking more
spicy.lemonade: thats more of a game thats just one environment
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fractalcomputer: Seeing as my profile picture happens to be one of the more prolific American horror authors of the last century or so.
fractalcomputer: I enjoy horror media.
.wolfnacht: We all got fooled again
trent_k: 1 gorillion tokens
trent_k: 🤯
trent_k: i spent $3325.29 on the openai api in 2024
trent_k: doing my taxes rn and looking at my deductable expenses
spicy.lemonade: lol
drewsni: Yeah. Every non coomer anime picture on civit for a long time has just been ghibli, or genshin lol
metaldragon01: Ai therapy looks like it's going to be a real thing
metaldragon01: https://ai.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/AIoa2400802
professorheaven: I think it’s very appropriate to add because the whole “openAI is so over” rhetoric has been pretty strong since 2.5 pro’s release. I think it would be better if you replaced DeepSeek V3 with DeepSeek v3 March 24 version, and then R1 with 2.5 pro
ldj: To keep it in the alternating style
ldj: The only thing that should be written in the timeline after the Deepseek announcement is a "OpenAI is so back" moment
ldj: <a:peepoTalk:1151260461157842944>
ldj: But we're doing alternating "OpenAI is so over" and "OpenAI is so back"
The first time it was "over" after O3 announcement was Deepseek V3/R1 announcement.
I can't add Gemini 2.5 Pro here since that would be a doubling of "OpenAI is so over" which doesn't fit
darkstar0818: I understand that.
professorheaven: It’s not just ghibili, it’s capabilities go far deeper than that
darkstar0818: Now creating new artistic styles, that is something else entirely.
professorheaven: Yea but 2.5 pro came out after V3 March 24 so it should be placed after that
darkstar0818: In fact I think people will get bored of converting photos to some other style fairly quick, it will lose its novelness rapidly. Sure randos will still do it from time to time, but it won't be something anyone thinks about.
darkstar0818: pretty sure people will get bored of it real quick, I already have.
ldj: But R1 came out before 2.5 pro
darkstar0818: ghibli style being saturated in all photos?
professorheaven: Yea and if you’re following it sequentially then R1 should be replaced with 2.5 pro
drewsni: Nah it’s been a thing for 2 years + now
ldj: just like you can't do a doubling of "we're so back"
ldj: you can't make things more over <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: but OAI was already over with V3 and R1
ldj: 2.5 Pro came out before 4o image gen dropped im pretty sure
professorheaven: How can you leave out the best part? 2.5 pro…
ldj: ```
OpenAI doesn't release a new GPT for nearly 2 years(2020-2022)
- > "OpenAI is so over"
GPT-4 comes out
-> "We're so back"
Board drama happens
-> "OpenAI is so over"
GPT-4o comes out
-> "We're so back"
Claude 3.5 sonnet comes out
-> "OpenAI is so over"
OpenAI O1 comes out
-> "We're so back"
Gemini-Flash thinking comes out
-> "OpenAI is so over"
OpenAI O3 gets announced
-> "We're so back"
Deepseek V3 and R1 comes out
-> "OpenAI is so over"
4o image generation comes out
-> "We're so back"
```
ldj: Took only 3 months for the timeline to get updated <a:Classic:1170538418544062586>
gamerbath: if you haven't heard of it I would recommend going in blind, it often goes on sale with -80 to -90%
gamerbath: i'm not sure, but I *really* enjoyed the game soma
apology0759: Does anyone like horror?
numbah_1_nig: it's still really cool
darkstar0818: everyone will be bored of it in a couple weeks
numbah_1_nig: one of my all time fav events in AI
numbah_1_nig: i got it to recreate a picture of me and my friends in that style and it hit me right in the feels
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futurist_wizard: we've overestimated how difficult and complex creating art is, and underestimated how difficult it is to navigate the natural world
sarik0497: Good point, and you’re probably (hopefully) right. I’m just a born pessimist with these things.
futurist_wizard: all our art is derivative of something in nature or another person's art, only difference is AI is a lot quicker and better at emulating styles than humans are
alejandrozarzuelo: thats just how art works
alejandrozarzuelo: others that you may not like
alejandrozarzuelo: you KNOW yout style will inspire others
alejandrozarzuelo: when you make art
memlaswaif: I have had the sense demis doesn't really believe in true agi with the llm paradigms maybe also why he's focussing on other stuff like alphaproof and he was also working on something like alphafold but for materials instead
alejandrozarzuelo: nah
futurist_wizard: so when his predictions go down its more noteworthy
czdct: just because something has endless possibilities does not mean that you should abuse it to bully others
futurist_wizard: its interesting because demis isn't a hype demon
czdct: I feel you, some people take it too far
alejandrozarzuelo: if it doesnt that girl is basic and spicy deserves better
memlaswaif: demis hassabis has changed his agi prediction like 3 times in the past 2 years now
alejandrozarzuelo: it should
spicy.lemonade: Perhaps
brain4brain: Google is just following a proven path, imo, OpenAI is scaling to the next thing, META with research that are LLM but they say is not LLM, Anthropic is going in the model interpretation route, Google basically have a better thing than anyone else but not new, reasoning model is a little different but fundamentally still use chain of though, video and image model is good but it’s more of a counter to competitor, Gemini-2.5 is good and probably the best or second best model right now, but it’s just reasoning scaled up
brain4brain: They were right last time about reasoning LLM though
hey1_1hey: Yeah, but also even if I did have the money I would not be spending it on chatgpt
ailoveyoom: It was that long ago 🤯
anathemaofmankind: Are you broke bro
anathemaofmankind: People keep repeating that nonsense because they are disingenuous retards
alejandrozarzuelo: same
anathemaofmankind: Pretty sure the "AI art" that he hated is completely different from now
It was literally some random body horror in 2016
alejandrozarzuelo: you need to EARN the title
alejandrozarzuelo: many people say "short king" to any dude who is short but nononono
alejandrozarzuelo: this is literally the definition of a short king
alejandrozarzuelo: damn dude you looking niiiice
anathemaofmankind: Does it work though
hey1_1hey: (Note: It will be mushroom based since all my t-shirts have mushrooms on them)
hey1_1hey: When non-paypig users get access to the image gen I will send a photo over of ghiblifeid me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ailoveyoom: For the ghibli one specifically, the guy (Hayao Miyazaki) behind the studio/art style has one time specifically said that he hated AI art or whatever.
So to use AI to make his style... I don't care about legal stuff or copyright (not what I'm taking issue with), but it feels kind of mean spirited to me.
I know most people are just making those images for fun/getting in on the new cool thing without intending to be mean. Maybe I'm just too soft boi 🥺
sarik0497: Oh really? Huh, I gotta read up on that. <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
sarik0497: Trust me, there’s always a desire for more money.
By claiming “Oh God, guys, our next model is gonna be insane, just watch!”, they make people interested in trying it out because “What if it’s actually good?”
A company’s main focus is to continue to grow. It’s very few who are satisfied when they reach a certain level.
But I hope they’re right, and I also think the models will be amazing. Just be careful not to fall for hype.
brain4brain: But somehow no one know what he is doing
brain4brain: A few weeks ago his entire company basically got doxxed
brain4brain: 10 years timeline for AGI scientist is absurd though, and OAI and Anthropic already have investors established so they wouldn’t need more investor
sarik0497: Although I’m VERY curious about Ilya’s work.
sarik0497: Could be hype from OA, Musk, and Amodei tbh.
Keep in mind that they are first and foremost CEOs whose main purpose is to generate money and interest in their product.
It’s the same reason why many Game companies promise the world, only to backtrack later on.
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