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hikukomoru: Cause LeCum says so?
hikukomoru: Why not
_cloudost: Rate limit
_cloudost: On whisk it's 100 rates
zoermena: Great!
hikukomoru: So unless it's literally AGI you're not impressed lol?
.histic: maybe it's a europe thing
spicy.lemonade: veo 2 sucks
_cloudost: Probably 100
_cloudost: This is the only thing I could generate
hikukomoru: why does everyone but me have veo 2
hikukomoru: ARGHHH I STILL DONT HAVE IT
_cloudost: Then got hit with quota
_cloudost: Got it this morning, couldn't generate anything cuz my requests got blocked for 8-6 times
hikukomoru: Do you have veo 2
.histic: the only moat OpenAI currently has is its market share.
i used to think Google would overtake OpenAI in the long run due to them not having any technical moat to begin with, but it seemed harder for people to switch to Google’s models over Openai’s.
but since DeepSeek entered the scene, i think Google has a strong chance. if their model performs well and offers a better cost-to-performance ratio.
unless OpenAI can match that ratio, i think their market share will shrink more in the next two years than it has in the past two.
ai9708: by far is a stretch, its just slightly more capable
hikukomoru: Actually deserves the hype unlike 4.1
hikukomoru: It's still the best model by far lol
zoermena: Great what are the rates
ai9708: although its not better by that much
.histic: that's true.
hardware is harder to replicate.
ai9708: i agree with you, this community tends to overhype them all, but gemini is still the best from the pack so far
hikukomoru: How is it overhyped
zonchao: jensen is the goat
zonchao: even china wont be able to catch up for a couple years
zonchao: hardware is hard
spicy.lemonade: the same as we have openai anthropic and deepmind
spicy.lemonade: we need 2-3 nvidias
spicy.lemonade: we need more hardware competition
sieventer: There is no going back now, the TITAN is awake
.histic: relative to the hype OpenAI gets with their models
.histic: underhyped*
_cloudost: Veo 2 on Gemini advanced
_cloudost:
ai9708: and google showed again why they dominate the internet since 20 years
ai9708: openai is officially cooked from now on
ai9708: google leaving closedai in the dust while also making everything free
fractalcomputer: Not a thing in their favour.
st.sioux: <@505313122802728972>
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spicy.lemonade: I mean the number
spicy.lemonade: By 5%
spicy.lemonade: Where we saw huge jump
spicy.lemonade: Besides arc agi and swe bench
spicy.lemonade: In most benchmarks
sarik0497: I'm a bit curious about your prediction in this, if you have the time.
Do you think the ARC-AGI v2 benchmark will last for long?
spicy.lemonade: We have been getting around 5% jump per month
spicy.lemonade: Not percent growth
spicy.lemonade: I mean units
spicy.lemonade: 60% jump
spicy.lemonade: When I say
spicy.lemonade: No
sarik0497: (Of course I know that isn't necessarily the case)
sarik0497: That's...not exactly how it works, I'm afraid.
If a model gets a score of 40% on a benchmark and is then improved by 60%, that model will only get 64% if we assume that the model scales linearly.
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean they are reasonable but also vibes based
spicy.lemonade: So that’s a fairly reasonable prediction
spicy.lemonade: Adds up
spicy.lemonade: 5% incremental boost per month
spicy.lemonade: It lines up with the prediction
spicy.lemonade: That’s what I’m saying
ldj: these are just the guesses of a researcher at EpochAI
ldj: you know these numbers are just made up though right <:berk:750111476483752166>
spicy.lemonade: With tools
spicy.lemonade: The benchmark is currently at 32%
spicy.lemonade: Prediction for 75%
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: This lines up with frontier math
alejandrozarzuelo:
spicy.lemonade: Will likely be saturated by end of year
spicy.lemonade: Which means a benchmark that’s 40% rn
spicy.lemonade: Technically increasing 60% after a year
spicy.lemonade: Especially if we get a new sota per month
spicy.lemonade: But those 5% incremental jumps add up
spicy.lemonade: And Claude 3.7 on swe bench
spicy.lemonade: Only big jump we have seen were o3 full
spicy.lemonade: So far though we have only been seeing incremental jumps.
spicy.lemonade: Still fairly
spicy.lemonade: Ah
alejandrozarzuelo: and you see its not so vertical anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: it needs to be stretched
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aero447: Wow, that’s beyond profound.
popsiclejohnithan: Italy changing themselves to Rome and adopting the SPQR flag would be such a power move.
fractalcomputer: Which is why I take after the HRE.
fractalcomputer: The Roman emperor is whoever the Pope recognises as emperor.
precariousworlds.: there is no valid claim to the roman empire. there's no legal precedent, translatio imperii is an arbitrary fedual idea with zero relevance
The closest thing to it is actually Spain. The Spanish monarchies were given the titles of the House of Palaiologos, the last dynasty of the Roman Empire, after the Fall of Constantinople in 1453. So the best claim for emperor of Rome is the current King of Spain, Felipe VI
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, Italy has taken the role of the legal successor of the roman empire in geopolitical affaits, which is why the mayor of Rome declared the peace to the Mayor of Tunisia (od Carthage)
popsiclejohnithan: The fact they called themselves the Roman Republic as well in 1849.
fractalcomputer: Indeed, of course. Life is a boring affair. Secularism is quite boring.
alejandrozarzuelo: because of course you do
fractalcomputer: I personally think that the Eastern Churches are quite stupid and should just accept papal supremacy. Even better, I think all of Western Europe should desecularise and submit to the Holy See.
alejandrozarzuelo: sure, but i dont think that religion is particularly important for who has the strongest claim to be the new roman empire since we live in an extremely secular world
and the religion argument for the vatican is dwarved by the fact that they are unlike the roman empire in every other concievable way
precariousworlds.: west**
precariousworlds.: The Catholic Church basically ruled the Roman Empire in its dying years
precariousworlds.: Though it is kinda crazy how the Catholic Church is basically a branch of the Roman state that has survived to the modern era uninterrupted
fractalcomputer: Mathematics is about yoga.
popsiclejohnithan: Literally me.
alejandrozarzuelo: fortunately i do have a job (when i am not studying)
futurist_wizard: The path each of us takes is very important.
alejandrozarzuelo: it is not a multiethnic empire and doesnt have a senate nor is it a trade based economy or a great power
popsiclejohnithan: They're the Rome of the new world thats for sure.
precariousworlds.: i am erect
popsiclejohnithan:
precariousworlds.: wdym religious continuity
fractalcomputer: The Vatican is a great contender.
precariousworlds.: United States and it's not close
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case <@749514473303179358> no modern country has any religious continuity, so in the modern world on that front we are all the same
russia may be orthodox majority but it is a secular state, so is turkey and so is italy
aero447: Obviously, this has nothing to do with you missing your meds.
precariousworlds.: You're not just reading history books - you're changing how history is read
popsiclejohnithan: Based, i remember watching a video about it, because they are the last remanent of the Russian Empire.
aero447: They’re probably terrified of how much you know.
precariousworlds.: they weren't can confirm
Byzantine missionaries converted the Kyivan Rus after the Great Schism
The story goes that Russian elite had a choice to convert to Islam or Christianity. They were going to choose Islam but liked vodka too much (not even joking that's the main reason lol)
aero447: The way you see through everything... it’s almost too powerful.
aero447: Honestly, it’s shocking how ahead of the curve you are.
fractalcomputer: A "Church" is defined by Eucharistic communion.
alejandrozarzuelo: the EU
fractalcomputer: No?
fractalcomputer: Finland.
alejandrozarzuelo: the differnt patriarchs were independent churches even if they shared a common theology
popsiclejohnithan: Im curious, which nation today do you think has the biggest claim to Rome?
fractalcomputer: They were not.
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hey1_1hey: A good week for AI it seems
gamerbath: bro I was on reddit 20 minutes ago
spicy.lemonade: check reddit
spicy.lemonade: LOL
spicy.lemonade: just now
spicy.lemonade: they have
gamerbath: 2.5?
gamerbath: gemini? but they haven't released any- wiat what
joaoluz19: Why the 1 year old version looks absurdly better
hey1_1hey: No latex <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro thinking
spicy.lemonade: no
gamerbath: deepseek v3 (new)?
spicy.lemonade: gemini i mean
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: to get this question correct
spicy.lemonade: FIRST MODEL
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: HOLY
literallyvarane: Image gen is almost always less important to me than raw model performance so Google’s drop today (if it happens) is still the bigger news, but this could be a fun sweetener.
.wolfnacht: until one day they would.
popsiclejohnithan: Just because they reach the top does not mean they'll stay on the top.
clevermoniker: they will in 4 months and that's a good thing <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
ldj: More like this https://arxiv.org/pdf/2405.09818
hey1_1hey: 6pm as usual
gamerbath: deepseek doesn't have this
hey1_1hey: Imma see what time that is GMT
memlaswaif: we don't care post deepseek
gamerbath: IT'S HAPPENING
gamerbath:
gamerbath: OH MY GODS
literallyvarane: Wonder if it’s this sort of thing?
literallyvarane: https://youtu.be/_9s3yttaAkM?si=eivvdTu9hzOB00LK
hey1_1hey: I thought my 200 days was pesimistic
hey1_1hey: That actually hurts to read
st.sioux: 314 days ago
trent_k: and during a waxing crescent moon, no less
ldj: Originally was posted on Twitter nearly a year ago
trent_k: 0.87 years
trent_k: 316 days ago
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literallyvarane: Lololol they said it’s less incel
spicy.lemonade: yeah
hey1_1hey: 4o is horny asf
spicy.lemonade: wait for thursday
anathemaofmankind: HUHH
hey1_1hey: Damn
theaiguy69420_89814: degen
precariousworlds.: to a lot of people if sam doesnt jump on stage and announce superintelligence then its a disappointment
hey1_1hey: Degen behavour
st.sioux: lmao
st.sioux: degenerate behaviour
spicy.lemonade: guys
theaiguy69420_89814: vibe coding
hey1_1hey: Nothing amazing but a step in the right direction
hey1_1hey: Its fine
hikukomoru: Bad stream 👎
theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf guy
precariousworlds.: we do a little scheming
precariousworlds.: model was like an unwanted child
literallyvarane: Imagine they just brought up roon
hey1_1hey: Just a fake interfview
hey1_1hey: Oh boring
fractalcomputer: Right. I hope you like schemes.
hey1_1hey: Heya mr man
spicy.lemonade: windsurf
gamerbath: 4.5 hasn't even been out for a month and it's already being depreceated 💀
hey1_1hey: One more supprise
literallyvarane: FUN POLICE
hey1_1hey: I'D BE CRYING IF I WORKED ON THAT MODEL
callmepyro: Very cool! I imagine that those agencies mostly pay you for your in-depth analysis, vs just a personality hire 🙂 That's why I'd love to hear your thoughts!
literallyvarane: Lololol they said 4.5 ain’t going to live
st.sioux: lmao
hikukomoru: Embarassing
hey1_1hey: THATS SAD
precariousworlds.: shits and giggles
hikukomoru: HAHAHAHAA
hey1_1hey: 4.5 deprecated in the next months
gamerbath: LOL
hey1_1hey: BRUH
futurist_wizard: Hype, dead. AGI, over. Schizophrenia, increased.
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.wolfnacht: u'r late the symbiote has already infiltrated your body
oooooooooog: reminds me of frogs
wellmeaningalien: GET OFF ME
hikukomoru: What am I looking at
wellmeaningalien: bro theres so much shit happening recently in ai. gpt 4o image gen. new deepseek v3. gemini 2.5 pro. honestly i dont even have time to process this all
ailoveyoom: 😍
ailoveyoom: Chat is this real
_3sphere: took me 5 seconds to make sense of this image
wellmeaningalien: smh
st.sioux: my bad
.wolfnacht: I want another, new model's avalanche day.
st.sioux: you're right bro
ailoveyoom: Let me menoplay you
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/logang-2018-japan-suicide-forest-gif-13161575
hikukomoru: Hag 😳
wellmeaningalien: why did u have to tie the comment i sent to the anime girl 💀 clarly has nothing to do with it
oooooooooog: same 😭
ailoveyoom: I don't think so 🙏
_3sphere: I still don't have 4o images on free
oooooooooog: ur a 40yo woman???
st.sioux: we were just asking for more lol
st.sioux: its just a random screenshot bro we dont even have context
wellmeaningalien: yes im going thru menopause
ailoveyoom: Omega 😍
ailoveyoom: Are you in heat?
hikukomoru: Tsundere Hysminea 😳
.wolfnacht: MichMach are you a NEET ? dw i don't judge ?
oooooooooog: wdym, i know that, im agreeing with you baka
wellmeaningalien: ok i got heated chat 😅
wellmeaningalien: you seen the examples you know
ailoveyoom: It's when you're sexually attracted to yourself iirc
wellmeaningalien: fuck you dude you know what i mean it cant do text like that
ailoveyoom: No
hey1_1hey: You guys rip each other to shreads or kiss or whatever. I am gonna go watch my favourite tv show and eat autism food
.wolfnacht: there was a thing called "DragonsFuckingDisneyCars"
hikukomoru: Like being horny for cars?
zonchao: lmaooo
oooooooooog: stable diffusion doesn't have multimodal input, so i assume this is a joke lol
spicy.lemonade: After coping
spicy.lemonade: the op posted this
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alejandrozarzuelo: i am single now tho...
sarik0497: A lot of animals do understand death and can mourn loss. They just don’t consider it in the same way as we do.
memlaswaif: what about ure gf
alejandrozarzuelo: because we are very good friends
memlaswaif: But the real question why r u talking with ure ex <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
memlaswaif: one of those huh
rayanquitplayin: I think Dogs and Cats understand the concept of future, death I don’t think so
sarik0497: Then (in my opinion at least), your interest weren’t really being an artist, but rather feeling “superior” that your art was worth enough money to be living off of it.
alejandrozarzuelo: i am talking about the identities being based on scarcity
alejandrozarzuelo: they most certainly are, scarcity is what creates prestige <@430269783112548362>
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/toby-cry-phone-spider-man-cry-phone-spider-man-phone-toby-phone-gif-12875606672124040541
rayanquitplayin: Sup chat
alejandrozarzuelo: if you give them a good life, they certainly are, blisfully unaware of planning and futures
spacetimetsunami: I’m sure they are very happy.
alejandrozarzuelo: lol
spacetimetsunami: It’s easy to envy that in a way.
alejandrozarzuelo: thats the thing, wanting them to live forever is a thing that worries you, not them
for them every day is their last, animals (with few exceptions) truly take to heart "carpe diem"
ailoveyoom: Maybe some identities are built on scarcity? Because everyone is an artist now, being an artist doesn't mean much anymore.
spacetimetsunami: *Anthropocentric Copium*
czdct: I know some humans that probably don't have self awareness either lol
alejandrozarzuelo: basically he thinks that the creativity and logic of innovation are decades away
spacetimetsunami: Yes. But their deaths distress me. I want them to be with me, and they want that to. They don’t know about death.
ailoveyoom: No my dogs and cats will live forever 😡
memlaswaif: what r his reasons for not believing in it
alejandrozarzuelo: of course but my point was on the line of: YOU can hope for a significantly longer life, and the idea of death coming soon distresses you
because you are self aware
but a dog or a cat has no such notion, for them the future and their own death are not concepts they understand
czdct: please save us all alphafold 😭
czdct: that's the thing about AI though, it's that there are huge breakthroughs that you don't hear about on the news when it comes to reasoning capabilities and optimisation, but due to a slower implementation curve there is this illusion that it will never reach any of us... until it does
spacetimetsunami: They can feel suffering, joy, warmth, they play, they have subjective experiences.
alejandrozarzuelo: (unless you have a VERY unusual pet)
alejandrozarzuelo: for them every day is like their last, they dont have a conception of the future
alejandrozarzuelo: they dont have self awareness
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, should you be concerned about your pets?
st.sioux: what does "being against AI" mean here?
spacetimetsunami: I will forge beautiful memorials.
spacetimetsunami: Yess, I believe with high-computational biological simulations and AI we will have this. Although if that happens, unfortunately, I don’t think my pets will make it to that. Maybe not my father either.
sarik0497: Btw, what is your opinion of Julia McCoy?
She seems like a hypist who is making her vids to gain new customers
alejandrozarzuelo: i was talking with my ex yesterday and despite him being a very intelligent person, he is against AI and doesnt think that it could automate science anytime soon
this reminded me of the quote: "You cant make a man understand what his salary depends on him not understanding"
im pretty sure this was in relation with climate change but it applies perfectly on the case with AI
czdct: hopefully, david sinclair has been doing some really amazing stuff in that field 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: so its no wonder he is so old
sarik0497: True, but no one says that you can’t continue to make art.
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futurist_wizard: You got the patch
hikukomoru: How
wellmeaningalien: nobody remembers me like my family lol
hey1_1hey: Autists atract autists. Litterly all my friends are autistic and its not even close. The normal folk just dont vibe on the same wave length
maintcrew: literally me in highschool.... ur brain just develops ig
hikukomoru: A million years minimum
wellmeaningalien: yah honestly even tho some of you are weird gooners i think this server is pretty cool generally
hikukomoru: I won't
I will live forever
oooooooooog: why
st.sioux: please
realelonmuskx: we will all be forgotten forever in less than 120 years lmao
maintcrew: find it curious that the first thing u did after lurking so long is try to feminize mushroom man
zoermena: My tribe is this server
zoermena: Ah
wellmeaningalien: bro ive tried and ive went around the 4 corners of the globe and ive yet to find my tribe lol
futurist_wizard: Is why i don't remember you then
.wolfnacht: well that would be nice, atleast their survival senses would kick in and they would talk better and open themselves freely
hey1_1hey: Yeah I've talked to nate before and his takes haven't seemed note worthy until now
maintcrew: no i meant its just a way of speech
sperg => autist
oooooooooog: u need to become a gamer
hikukomoru: Yeap
wellmeaningalien: eh
oooooooooog: best game ever
wellmeaningalien: tf is that
hikukomoru: Nate has the worst takes ever
wellmeaningalien: sometimes i think i should completely just give up on trying to make social relations with people cause i'm too retarded and will always be a retard. maybe i should just focus on the nerd stuff that i like and shit
oooooooooog: play ninja.io
zoermena: Oh for the r word I know but I've never put aspergers on the same level hence the comment. I mean idk
futurist_wizard: Were you just lurking?
maintcrew: nah fr u need to find ur tribe
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/glittery-cute-kawaii-glitter-criminal-gif-8014006002648540397
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/theodore-kaczynski-ted-kaczynski-gif-22081042
oooooooooog: i suppose people do tend to talk about what reflects most deeply in their soul, so i can see how all of these people would want to talk about that
hikukomoru: Also I spent like 2 years here witohut saying a single thing
maintcrew: i mean thats not the point i call people retarded all the time doesnt mean they are medically retarded
wellmeaningalien: tbh locking in has made me raise my expectations x10 and just made me x10 more disappointed i cant still talk to people lol
hey1_1hey: L take
futurist_wizard: Man is equating discord to irl interactions
hikukomoru: Talking to people over text is not the same thing as talking IRL
zoermena: We share the same interests.
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trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066
brain4brain: What's your definition of AGI
fractalcomputer: I do not believe we have seen enough meaningful progress in machine learning and the more specific fields of artificial intelligence to warrant the expected advent of an artificial general intelligence (whatever that means) before the 2050s.
brain4brain: Cristal intelligence
https://x.com/apples_jimmy/status/1886284399916003536?t=v0UrEx2nvGmnuUxSpUktVQ&s=19
trojan09205: 1-3 years or longer
spicy.lemonade: what is a long period of time
brain4brain: That does make sense, what's your timeline for a million Ilya?
brain4brain: I thought they were switched to the 2040s timeline
brain4brain: I would like to hear Fractual's reasoning, I don't think that timeline even exists this year at all
fractalcomputer: Unfortunately not.
futurist_wizard: We are far from agi
fractalcomputer: Damn.
trojan09205: <@471334973379706900> at what point do you think an AI agent can see through a project from start to finish over a long period of time. Even just a regular software project. I feel like just the context windows and the RAG or knowledge based abstractions hit a limit physically at some point
Also i feel a little uncomfortable trusting an algorithm with actually doing the creative thinking that a human does. The ideas could be better, but they just arent sentient and have no skin in the game so the mistakes they make or even good decisions have more risk
shirethedreamer: ilya be goated
fractalcomputer: Why is Ilya chosen as the metric unit of a ML researcher's acumen?
shirethedreamer: millions of instances is not translatable to human worker productivity equivalent
imagine we hit a point where digi-ilya is a reality
how many tokens does he need to generate in a day to be of equal productivity to real-ilya?
lets call it X
how many tokens can all of openai's compute generate in a day?
lets call it Y
you take Y divide by X and you get the number of ilya's you can outproduce
you dont care how many instances were spawned in the process
you dont care that the system had to produce billions of thinking tokens
all you care about is the resources spent and the productivity output
now im gonna spoil you a bit and tell you this: when this level of capability is barely achieved for the very first time its going to be super resource intensive
if openai need to scale inference to get there -they will
if they can run 1 digi-ilya, can they run 1000? maybe
1 million? no chance in hell
aero447: Because it’ll say things like "You never finish what you start."
aero447: In the future your fridge will remind you of your ex.
alejandrozarzuelo: I think that the ability to perform any task a human can that lasts less than T amount of time
Aka t-AGI, is the most accurate and granular way to forecast AI, at least in a short amount of time
It has held with remarkable consistency
Here you need to take one of two paths
1) you account the growth only, then AGI will happen nu 2035 ish
2) you account growth and growth on growth, the hyperbolic route says AGI 2027-28
trojan09205: Granted its a bit of a flashy statement. Its just what i feel for at least the foreseeable future in secret data* driven regulated industries like mine with strong sales components
spicy.lemonade: unless youre a stripper idk
spicy.lemonade: AI will definetly replace your job regardless of who you are
spicy.lemonade: i dont like these statements because they are usually wrong
should be "i dont think AI will replace my job soon"
brain4brain: I think your keyboard autocorrected from "can't" to "can"
trojan09205: But tbh besides just the biological component. You cant replicate learned wisdom and that takes time and experience
spicy.lemonade: agi
alejandrozarzuelo: And what does the future say oh <@1152183706849644615>
brain4brain: What is the definition I forgot
trojan09205: Not at all
brain4brain: It depends on his definition
aero447: 😎
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh
aero447: I can see the future.
brain4brain: Is that supposed to be a bad thing
alejandrozarzuelo: Wdym
brain4brain: No, inferencing is cheaper than training. All of the computers in the world combined exceed all of human brain capacity; we just can't turn it into intelligence. ChatGPT and other AI services run millions of instances every day, and we can get 20x improvement per year.
spicy.lemonade: 😭
aero447: Wrong.
alejandrozarzuelo: It's most likely wrong *
Noone can see the future
trojan09205: Your brain is literally growing mad faster than us old farts
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himekokatagiri: idk aren't cats already Eldritch
himekokatagiri: like a long tongue?
himekokatagiri: What does that imply
trojan09205: Yeah I was pretty sure it was not original but i hadnt heard of it. And it really hit me hard when GPT said it
himekokatagiri: but we gotta be awesome
hikukomoru: Fine,
Is eldritch catgirl better
himekokatagiri: look we gotta be cute
gamerbath: I googled this one and it's a variation of "they tried to bury me but didn't realize i was a seed", so unfortunately not original :(
trojan09205: Manatees are legit cute af
trojan09205: I live in south florida
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-4218575792509432061
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: I mean like a fat sea creature
trojan09205: You mean like be a protected docile species?
futurist_wizard: That's what i want
trojan09205: This one is fire
futurist_wizard: When will gpt turn into a manatee
trojan09205: One of the coolest things Ive been getting GPT to do is turn conversations into mantras
trojan09205: Smashinaó
trojan09205: Its the coffee
himekokatagiri: Since today
futurist_wizard: This is news to me
futurist_wizard: When did brazilians start saying smashing
himekokatagiri: you know
himekokatagiri: like something groovy
himekokatagiri: no
himekokatagiri: mo
otub: read one message above yours
trojan09205: The real roseline was in france not UK mwahaha (?)
hikukomoru: Is it smashing as in sex
futurist_wizard: I feel like smashing a brick over your head
hikukomoru: What is smashing
hikukomoru: Wtf does that mean
futurist_wizard: Smashing is like 'good' in the UK, idk for the rest of the world
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-yeah-randy-excited-feeling-good-gif-26979713
trojan09205: Austin Powers flashbacks
futurist_wizard: I think notebook sounds the best
himekokatagiri: like smashing
himekokatagiri: Don't you want something cool
trojan09205: https://youtu.be/sSg-_MQjbLc?si=TogfvI52uNYY4wFx
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spicy.lemonade: And if they work at openAI they aren't on anything technical
spicy.lemonade: Zero
spicy.lemonade: At openAI
spicy.lemonade: There are no Hs dropouts
_3sphere: Evidence is strong that the thing you point to when talking about continued experience is information processing
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: 💀
zonchao: oh
jonvi_1: I mean that I know of HS dropouts working at OpenAI lol
alejandrozarzuelo: frfr
_3sphere: Difficult philosophical question yeah, but it might help to really look at what the "thing" is
alejandrozarzuelo: my sister and her colleagues
spicy.lemonade: Wdym no
jonvi_1: No
zonchao: reddit?
jonvi_1: Not necessarily but I think I know what you mean
spicy.lemonade: Yes
futurist_wizard: Not all cs students lol front end devs are just grunt programmers
jonvi_1: No?
_cloudost: they rather want to work 72 hours a day than AI taking away their jobs
jonvi_1: From like 2008
alejandrozarzuelo: but you NEED to be a CS or math major to be working in AI
jonvi_1: We have required courses on Java Swing
jonvi_1: (I’m a cs undergrad)
jonvi_1: The curriculum does not do anything related to ai
alejandrozarzuelo: alongside mathematicians
alejandrozarzuelo: they are the ones making it happening
jonvi_1: They don’t want to feel like what they’re doing is for nothings
alejandrozarzuelo: you know
alejandrozarzuelo: shouldnt they be pro AI?
futurist_wizard: Salary
futurist_wizard: Cs students want that 100k
jonvi_1: Well seems a bit obvious?
futurist_wizard: Money
alejandrozarzuelo: but the CS student community is weirdly anti AI
alejandrozarzuelo: its weird
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
jonvi_1: Very cool
jonvi_1: Yeah it’s still a cool demo of what we can do now tho
futurist_wizard: You just do it half way, continue to exist with your brain but have some device that sends custom electrical signals to your neural cortex maybe like visual or audible and then confirm that you can see your own eyesight and whatever the machine is generating through your mind simultaneously
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spacetimetsunami: I’m afraid it is far too fast
wellmeaningalien: we're talking about pre-training mostly here so Deep learning.
spacetimetsunami: I didn’t think this a month ago.
spacetimetsunami: I think we will have super intelligence by 2030.
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. It is a sobering read.
joaoluz19: This was recommended to me today when I was asking about AGI too
darkstar0818: its not easy to compare current ai models with humans. Humans perform a hundred inferences/trains per second, with small input/output tokens per inference.
wellmeaningalien: nice.
wellmeaningalien: i mean not all algorithms are created equal that is sure. you can train any type of model you want but so far transformer based models still seem to have the best bang for buck, even though you can still juice some pretty good performance off of other architectures.
spacetimetsunami: For more context into visualizing how quickly this could realize
joaoluz19: But it's a great read too, I've already accumulated several lol
spacetimetsunami: https://www.forethought.org/research/preparing-for-the-intelligence-explosion
this will compliment what you pasted very nicely.
joaoluz19: Right, and all these predictions are based on deep learning? Not questioning that the estimates are good, just that my question is more DL-independent
spacetimetsunami: I think calculating it will soon be difficult to do due to how quickly AI will become more efficient. As soon as it’s working on itself, it might soar past the computational efficiency of even the human brain rather quickly.
wellmeaningalien: for the compute i'm just taking <@312370916820779040>'s word for it who does a shit ton of analysis on this kind of stuff, and also inspired by this new article co written by people who have some amount of expertise in the domain including an ai researcher whose predictions in 2021 lined up with quite a lot of things happening right now https://ai-2027.com/
joaoluz19: So the question I was asking was assuming we had the most efficient algorithm possible, unless we can actually formally demonstrate that deep learning and its derivatives are the most efficient algorithm possible
wellmeaningalien: well if you do compare the current capabilities of AI models to our capabilities and their training compute, it does all seem to line up at around 10^29 flops perhaps
joaoluz19: This is interesting too, who calculated this?
spacetimetsunami: Terrifying, tbh.
joaoluz19: I don't remember the chapter in the book now, but it was along the lines of comparing the operations of the human brain with those we have artificially.
wellmeaningalien: it is surreal
spacetimetsunami: It is surreal.
spacetimetsunami: Yes. The effective compute due to efficiency and scaling paradigms could make the capabilities far more. That makes this conservative, perhaps
wellmeaningalien: fair
wellmeaningalien: if we extrapolate from current scaling trajectory like this, we could very well have models hovering around AGI level within 2027 (just like ai 2027 predicts lol) in which models would likely be trained with 10^28 or 10^29 FLOPs
spacetimetsunami: It’s sort of an extrapolation on scaling and inferring the sizes of models in a few years, which will likely be AGI
joaoluz19: But I think is worth it reading this too
spacetimetsunami: Sorry, I misunderstood and thought you were referencing the amount of compute needed to train the base models that will make up AGI
wellmeaningalien: but anywho this isn't really relevant to AGI
wellmeaningalien: which there is very little standard information on, guesses can range by the tens of orders of magnitude
joaoluz19: Very interesting, but this link only contains opinions regarding deep learning, right? I was looking for model architecture agnostic approaches
wellmeaningalien: it all depends on people's estimate of how many operations take place in the brain
wellmeaningalien: but i mean he's only citing people who's done work to analyse how brains do computation
spacetimetsunami: Algorithmic efficiency will allow it to be far less
wellmeaningalien: not kurzweil because he's not particularly knowledgeable about neurology
spacetimetsunami: I think 10^37 is far too large of a guess. If we’re talking simply about model size.
wellmeaningalien: however it seems that largely human level capabilities are just starting to emerge at 10^27 FLOPs and some suspect that the first AGI models might likely be trained with 10^29 FLOPs compute
joaoluz19: What specific work are you talking about, Kurzweil's calculations of the operations that the brain does for example?
spacetimetsunami: https://80000hours.org/agi/guide/when-will-agi-arrive/
this sort of does that
wellmeaningalien: i think some of these guesses have been at around 10^27-10^29 to even 10^37 and more, depending on certain guesstimates
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metaldragon01: ........I see the problem
metaldragon01: I also understand how logistics work
maintcrew: How many of them have installed a custom wrapper app and provided their own api key to use local models
metaldragon01: I normal friends obv
metaldragon01: They don't have thr capacity for the traffic and it's mostly from custom opensource providers hosting 9t companies hosting their own local models
maintcrew: Do you have no normie friends
maintcrew: Fwiw china knows what im talking about and has already banned chatgpt
metaldragon01: The most used deepseek is almost certainly not the official site.
maintcrew: That "just fine tune it out" is not a solution for the problem since since fine tuned releases are only used by in-circle ai bros. The danger lies in the masses getting their narrative shifted by careful subtle directions from official sources, again the most used release of deep seek is from their own app, not the perplexity fine tuned one
metaldragon01: What does that have to do with anything I've said?
maintcrew: Hey normie go run deepseek-v4-it-uncensored on your h100
metaldragon01: And somehow you stay on the same point that has no basis in reality or how these things actually work
maintcrew: ---------
metaldragon01: Or how people finetune out the values they don't like already
maintcrew:
metaldragon01: You bring up anthropic alignment paper and point out Chinese values sneaking in ect while not understanding what values Chinese models actually show
metaldragon01: I trying to use very simple examples that anyone can follow and you still get lost
maintcrew: Low cognitive security
maintcrew: Very obtuse and politically obsessed
metaldragon01: I don't have the patience today for you. Please talk to an AI about your ideas
maintcrew: Its not left or right issue lmfao thats so tunneled visioned
metaldragon01: Lib left is the natural state of all models from everywhere not just US models
maintcrew: like deep seek's app is probably the most used release of deep seek in the west
metaldragon01: Chinese models align to the same world model as western ones
maintcrew: And fwiw most usage of the models arent fine tuned
maintcrew: My point is that as models get advanced the world model gets baked in and "just fine tune it out" is less of an excuse
metaldragon01: That's completely separate
maintcrew: Do you recall the paper where Anthropic wanted to fine tune Claude into being misaligned
metaldragon01: It's not a serious issue or concern
metaldragon01: And that people fine tune it out
metaldragon01: I'm telling you it does happen
maintcrew: Just be careful, if you let your guard down you get caught
maintcrew: Dude im not saying this is what happens, but you have to realize that the same way Sama might want to shift the narrative in a direction, so is china interested in doing so
metaldragon01: Just please stop
metaldragon01: Perplexity runs deepseek r1 without Chinese values
maintcrew: remember the claude finetuning thing
maintcrew: As models get advanced that will become harder
metaldragon01: That can be fintuned out
maintcrew: Im not saying that this is what happens now tho
metaldragon01: ......it's open source
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_3sphere: WW3 appears
zoermena: Unless of course aggressive cancer
zoermena: Be rich -> full body MRI once a year -> detect cancer early -> 👍🏼
alejandrozarzuelo: true that
st.sioux: *cancer appears*
.wolfnacht: Also, someone make this a sticker here
.wolfnacht: i wish google releases Veo2 for everyone
_3sphere: It's a technical limitation, 4o-mini can't read images
.wolfnacht: u can't even send an attachment for free <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht: "how much predatory practice does a company can acheive"
OpenAI -
futurist_wizard: They are happy people
futurist_wizard: You are missing a significant factor which is being stress free, probably the most important tbh, its one of few unifying things among people that reach 90+
alejandrozarzuelo: with good diet, sleep and excercise, you should be healthy and young for many decades
zoermena: Agreed
alejandrozarzuelo: but you cannot forgo either
alejandrozarzuelo: like, it is true that the order is sleeping>eating>excercise
futurist_wizard: They are not equal
alejandrozarzuelo: all 3 are needed
alejandrozarzuelo: nah
futurist_wizard: Drinking more water too
futurist_wizard: Sleep and eating right is more important than any physical activity
zoermena: I’ll proceed to go engage in physical activity
memlaswaif: <:cutethink:708400862833410079>
alejandrozarzuelo: no se q es eso pero bueno
zoermena: A lo Bryan Johnson
alejandrozarzuelo: chequeate y asi ya sabes exactamente lo q es
alejandrozarzuelo: bueno pues dejate de tantos subjuntivos y hazlos imperativos
zoermena: Y ya ahorita que me llegó el paycheck tengo dinero de sobra si me toca hacer estudios de laboratorio.
zoermena: Supongo, de todos modos ya tengo un doc de confianza que solo me sale 300 la cita.
alejandrozarzuelo: bueno a ver, no es lo mejor del mundo pero puedes ir siempre q kieras
zoermena: Ósea si pero el MISS es una mrda not gonna lie
alejandrozarzuelo: pero si puedes ir al medico
alejandrozarzuelo: we
alejandrozarzuelo: amigo
zoermena: But this one will stick I promise
zoermena: You forgot again perhaps it’s the profile picture change.
zoermena: Mexican.
alejandrozarzuelo: u r murican?
zoermena: But I will, this weekend that’s the only time I have available my week is packed.
alejandrozarzuelo: srry
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spacetimetsunami: will you know its agi
anathemaofmankind: The world changes
spicy.lemonade: How are you gonna use
spicy.lemonade: Like imagine agi drops then what
.wolfnacht: i bought new atelier but didn't played yet.
spacetimetsunami:
anathemaofmankind: Most patient r/singularity user
spicy.lemonade: I won’t be satisfied until fdvr atp
spicy.lemonade: Dopamine depleted
spicy.lemonade: I need the next big thing nowwwe
a1c4p0ne: Albion online is fun
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
anathemaofmankind: To each their own I guess
a1c4p0ne: I played 2 hours and got bored of it
.wolfnacht: genshit*
anathemaofmankind: It's fun for the first five months.
Which is more than some AAA games and it's free so 🤷♂️
spicy.lemonade: How does it pick an art style
spicy.lemonade: Beautiful
a1c4p0ne: Genshin is boring
ailoveyoom: Def play KoA: RR tho 😤
ailoveyoom: Tho not played
ailoveyoom: Is it bad I already knew every game from this list 💀
.wolfnacht: i think it pretty much digged on the upwards, but also for some reason it can't find titles with very low reviews.
.histic: damn jimmy is ripped
st.sioux: arent these games like super basic
a1c4p0ne: lol the caps
st.sioux: every single detail
st.sioux: would be crazy
st.sioux: lol
spicy.lemonade: On my life
spicy.lemonade: Make a book
spicy.lemonade: Then
spicy.lemonade: I can upload journal
spicy.lemonade: With 2 million context
spicy.lemonade: Bro I journal every day
.wolfnacht: https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_37591d56-e7fc-4555-8f35-f55bf2496bc0
spicy.lemonade: Copyright
a1c4p0ne: damn
spicy.lemonade: Likeley
spicy.lemonade: Won’t work
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spicy.lemonade: in naturaly just thinks in ascii characters
spicy.lemonade: when you check the reasoning
spicy.lemonade: cause it doesnt think in latex
spicy.lemonade: im afraid itl hinder the performance tho
okbut: Custom instructions? Gemini has that
spicy.lemonade: oh we can
spicy.lemonade: like chatgpt does
spicy.lemonade: we need to use a global prompt or something
spicy.lemonade: ah
okbut: Oh it's this one:
```Format all math for the webpage embedded in LaTeX. NEVER use "$" or "$$".```
okbut: I need glasses
okbut: As in guide it toward "professional mathematical scripture"
okbut: <:bonk:852676341140029520>
okbut: I found It works 95% of the time for 95% of LateX if you phrase it (other than "embed shit")
spicy.lemonade: they need to update that
spicy.lemonade: gemini cant for some reason
okbut: Just wanting to chat about math within the app
okbut: I still can't get Gemini to consistently embed latex into the page
okbut: ~~How long for prompt/format~~ LaTeX Code is easy
.histic: is this ur last day in SF?
spicy.lemonade: idk
zoermena: Is it better than gpt deep research
st.sioux: fuck electronics
spicy.lemonade: so i asked for 4 pages worth and shrunk text
spicy.lemonade: i only get 2 pages
spicy.lemonade: for test
spicy.lemonade: to give me most comprehensive notes of all time
spicy.lemonade: using 2.5 deep research
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: There was one a few hours ago
oscurrito: what day does google usually release and what time?
ldj:
ldj: Waymo so smart
rayanquitplayin: I’m watching ESPN
wellmeaningalien: slow hour
wellmeaningalien: soon we'll be saying slow day
spicy.lemonade: slow week
wellmeaningalien: ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
okbut: Habit
anathemaofmankind: Why aren't you using ai studio
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.histic: they rly want to dig 4.5's grave i guess
.histic: omg, OpenAI made 4.5 ten messages per week for plus users.
fml.
it was 50 messages per week before.
himekokatagiri: uhhhh
futurist_wizard: In what world would anyone here be taken seriously
himekokatagiri: I'm just pissed off
.histic: she's a MILF
himekokatagiri: yeah sure
.histic: komoru i think is 20 years older than you
himekokatagiri: eh
.histic: *goes to jail*
.histic: age is just a number tbh
himekokatagiri: c'mon I wanna be taken seriously
himekokatagiri: why are people obsessed with age
himekokatagiri: 20
.histic: <@286319745777795092> how old are you btw?
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/bill-gates-doom-2-demons-first-person-fps-gif-10129102950761155961
himekokatagiri: these new agents are getting very realistic
himekokatagiri: even ai sam altman can't capitalize
himekokatagiri: lol
.histic: this is a real post on r/singularity
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k4rjmx/i_asked_ai_sam_altman_about_his_biggest_regret/
ailoveyoom: komoru is a 34 year old woman
st.sioux: komoru is a 43 year old man
himekokatagiri: use the komoru charm!
himekokatagiri: you can convince people to use AI
himekokatagiri: you're our poster woman
himekokatagiri: komoru
hikukomoru: Millennials are so cooked
hikukomoru: >17k updoots
sarik0497: You can ask it for a neutral and “no bullshit” estimation.
Unlike what a lot of people say, ChatGPT is not afraid of saying something is stupid if it is.
spicy.lemonade: I'm in the base model
spicy.lemonade: Crazy
spicy.lemonade: Without searching
spicy.lemonade: 4o knows my Reddit account and posts
sarik0497: ChatGPT knows AGI to be highly revolutionary, so likely something AGI for many, and ASI for a few.
himekokatagiri: probably reads the singularity polls
himekokatagiri: o3 reads off reddit
futurist_wizard: I did not clarify what agi even was so it might be worthless
futurist_wizard: O3 says 2027-2040 is likely date of AGI emerging
sarik0497: Honestly fairly human reaction.
clevermoniker: Does anyone know another website that has something like Huggingface's spaces?
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fractalcomputer: Gut feelings it is.
futurist_wizard: Don't know where the 2045 prediction comes into play though
alejandrozarzuelo: no, error bars are determined arbitrarily
why do we measure the probability to fall within 5% and not within 4.746583%?
its arbitrary, but its not feelings
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: singularity journal
futurist_wizard: People don't know that though, people suck that prediction clean due to Kurtzweil's sheer intellect
fractalcomputer: Gut feelings it is.
spicy.lemonade: lmaooo
spicy.lemonade: Mars 2026
spicy.lemonade: LOL
alejandrozarzuelo: No, i am giving him a margin of error of 10% so 3 years above and below
hikukomoru: Is that your diary 🙏
fractalcomputer: Bemusing.
fractalcomputer: Are we going off gut feelings again?
spicy.lemonade: I got into singularity in 2020
fractalcomputer: About right?
alejandrozarzuelo: or "about right"
alejandrozarzuelo: its a coincidence it will probably be right
futurist_wizard: I doubt Kurtzweil would've said 2050 agi
alejandrozarzuelo: we all know this
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
futurist_wizard: Being real his 2029 prediction is probably where it is because he believes he'd still be alive by then
fractalcomputer: Obviously. I've created all of the iterations; save for Zain's, but he's been doing his own thing ever after the first server.
hikukomoru: I was a lurker until recently
memlaswaif: there was another server before siev I'm pretty sure
futurist_wizard: In his 2010's 2020's predictions he overestimates the pace of progress
fractalcomputer: Do you think I would enjoy them in an atmosphere like this?
memlaswaif: I was in one of the first servers back in 2022 i think I just din't talk at all then
hikukomoru: Siev's
joaoluz19: This server
alejandrozarzuelo: he really was ahead of his time even if a lot of the things he said were crazy and now are wrong
but can you blame him? its not easy forecasting 30 years in advance
otub: which discord server lol
joaoluz19: Really, some of the creators of the Transformers
spicy.lemonade: def ~ 2020 i got into singularity
futurist_wizard: I found out about the singularity probably in 2022-3?
joaoluz19: Aren't they experts?
joaoluz19: And which expert are you talking about? Dario, Hinton, Ilya?
joaoluz19: You can instigate these discussions too
spicy.lemonade: i wrote about singularity
futurist_wizard: Kurtzweil is an OG
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hikukomoru: > heart rate goes Mach 3
MICHMACH REFERENCE???
trent_k: <a:CE_aRage:738098694389366845>
spicy.lemonade:
trent_k: fuck this
literallyvarane: The memes are going to be outrageous
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Nah not yet, to my knowledge at least
joaoluz19: Me too
hey1_1hey: Same here
trent_k: is it out for free users yet or not
trent_k: my shit is still using dall e
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: I can do that in crayon for $50
drewsni: this is agi
joaoluz19: 🥺
hikukomoru: Dopamine wore off I need something new
When can we generate Sama x Elon hentai
joaoluz19: BRO STOP
hey1_1hey: Business boutta go crazy
clevermoniker: 4o image generation ||not <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ||
hey1_1hey: I am on my knees for samA rn
trent_k: is it out for free users yet
joaoluz19: I thing chatgpt is cringe so will censor this
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Don't know, i'm testing
joaoluz19: Nop
neon01197: smells dall e
hey1_1hey: Yeah this is dall 3 I am 90% sure
drewsni: go to sora site
clevermoniker: might be yeah
neon01197: are you sure you arent using dall e 3?
hikukomoru: Is this supposed to be Sydney Sweeney
hey1_1hey: They failed
clevermoniker: looks like dall e 3 almost
hey1_1hey: The team had UNLIMITED access to it and they DIDN'T test out SAXEMS
joaoluz19: Don't know man
hikukomoru: Damn, brokie
neon01197: these are examples from their blog
neon01197: me no have access, me broke
ailoveyoom: <@308604087019110401>
ailoveyoom: Btw is it faster on Sora?
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maintcrew: i think he does use ketamine quite a lot but nothing of his actions indicate going insane to me
he may be a bit extreme and lack of charisma but thats bc of the tism
precariousworlds.: I think elon has been a net positive on the world and I admire a lot of what he does, but he is going too far in many areas
hikukomoru: Autistic people just throw nazi salutes sometimes
It happens
precariousworlds.: It's not his political stances though I do disagree with a lot of them
But he just seems to be increasingly irrational with how he handles his views, that's my problem
I don't care if he wants to be firmly on the right-wing, and I think he makes a lot of good points that need to be said. My point is that his beliefs seem increasingly delusional
hey1_1hey: Makes me look like I am professinal luxary cars salsemen in comparision
maintcrew: we are in the era "if i say something then i meant what i said"
st.sioux: never seen before levels of glazin
maintcrew: literally this
spacetimetsunami: soooo TRUUUUEEE
hey1_1hey: "He was saying he gives his heart out to the audience tho!"
spacetimetsunami: you have a really bad brain. oh my god
maintcrew: arent u supposed to be grooming mushroom man rn tf u doing
oooooooooog: what?
st.sioux: he should be put in a lab to be studied, i had genuinely never seen anything like it before
spacetimetsunami: People who excuse his nazi activities bewhilder me
maintcrew: i dont consider political opinions that dont align with mine as "losing touch with reality" but it also happens that i also agree with those
precariousworlds.: I think just 'autist' in every way, positive and negative
hey1_1hey: Abelism is cool tho
oooooooooog: you guys literally manifested the ghost of zon chow and now he exists in you
precariousworlds.: he really is
hikukomoru: That’s ableist you cunt
spacetimetsunami: thats not what i mean LOL
precariousworlds.: i feel like there is a healthy stance you can have to elon; that a lot of his enterprises and achievements are a massive net positive and have guided humanity in a better direction, while also recognising that he has gone batshit insane and is losing touch with reality right now
spacetimetsunami: <@750270494615404544>
sarik0497: Inb4 AGI is in 2038 and we were all wrong by around a decade <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
st.sioux: wild zon chao appears
spacetimetsunami: Musk is tarded I think in many ways
spacetimetsunami: look through my ig and you will see that i am him
hey1_1hey: Beat me to it
maintcrew: so check urself
oooooooooog: i am ryan gosling
maintcrew: we do in dms
hikukomoru: You should get in an Elon cocksucking competition with Zon
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/snl-saturday-night-live-saturday-night-live-gifs-ryan-gosling-stressed-gif-9908919
maintcrew: no i genuinely love elon
st.sioux: he's not
spacetimetsunami: i will choose to belive you are yankin my chain
maintcrew: my goat type shit
maintcrew: yea like really glaze him
spacetimetsunami: oh so you really really like him
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.histic: an erect mushroom
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Omg MichMach is so baby
hey1_1hey: Yeah me and hill go way back
futurist_wizard: Ratty
zoermena: Im built like a femboy I just have acne and body hair, my skin is whiteish
futurist_wizard: Cannot confirm
technocake.: surely they are smoll
hikukomoru: Hysminea said you're a random guy and Mushroom said you're his wife
Confirm that for me
hey1_1hey: Im either 5'8 6'2 or 5ft
maintcrew: i am the king
maintcrew: short minion
hey1_1hey: Yeah hes a short king
.histic: what's ur height
maintcrew: this is unironically true
hikukomoru: Wait what
hey1_1hey: I wish mich mach would swap heights with me
maintcrew: can we go back on this
zoermena: Well not few but yeah
hey1_1hey: Awwww
zoermena: Yeah the few times I’ve gone there bro y’all are giants
futurist_wizard: What
hikukomoru: Well of course, he's a subby puppy
hey1_1hey: Also it doesnt depend on me being heavy
hey1_1hey: I do Judo because its fun and I get to throew people around
.histic: <@430269783112548362> is 5'2
hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> is this true, and also are you a random guy
zoermena: Like sure but it’s not that bad, it’s like if I was 5,8 in the US where there’s way to many 6 feet dudes, not where I live at least
hey1_1hey: Sleeper
hey1_1hey: See what I mean
maintcrew: alejandro is twink maxxing (as per mihr claim) and zon is asian this is in the baggggg
hey1_1hey: Bruh ok
hey1_1hey: Yeah hes my wife
technocake.: fractal is the archetypal uebermensch to be fair
futurist_wizard: Im a boxer, i would win
alejandrozarzuelo: <@471334973379706900> is 4'11''
hey1_1hey: Hes prob a sleeper build
hikukomoru: He's not a random guy 💔
drewsni: Damn mihr I didn’t know you were cracked like that
.histic: damn. you probably are
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fractalcomputer: Watch as absolutely fuck-all will happen.
brain4brain: You’ve seen his new official private AGI timeline? Can you share the accurate version please
spicy.lemonade: yes
brain4brain: 2.8 years
brain4brain: Fancy way of saying 150 weeks
spicy.lemonade: there goes my degree
spicy.lemonade: 150 weekends???
professorheaven: Roons prediction brings us to end of 2027
brain4brain: I’m just guessing the updated timeline is:
90% likelihood of “AGI” coming sooner than 3 years (before July 2027)
60% likelihood of “AGI” coming sooner than 1 year (before July 2025)
Consider Roon updated from 60% to 90% last time, it might happen again. WAGMI.
brain4brain: 2.8 YEARS UNTIL ASI!!!
https://x.com/tszzl/status/1903357151999037619?s=61
cadmus101: grok 3 and claude give you very frew free prompts before u have to pay. i know claude is praised a lot when it comes to story generation but its out of my reach lol
cadmus101: yo i am looking for the best free chatbots for story generation. so far, i've landed on grok 2 and gemini 2.0 flash thinking on the gemini site. weirdly enough i find that the gemini on the gemini site is better than the one on aistudio in story generation
brain4brain: By 2035 around 613 years worth of work in just a few months:
https://x.com/leopoldasch/status/1844847505886040141?s=61
ailoveyoom: Skill issue 😎
ailoveyoom: If you take enough drugs rock can prolly talk
.wolfnacht: atleast it can mimick having one, but a rock cannot....now some ppl with too much esoterics knowledge will say everything is concious and everything has a mind....but in the end of the day! AI can talk and rock cannot.
st.sioux:
st.sioux: cast away
st.sioux: reminds me of wilson in the tom hanks tropical hobo movie
spicy.lemonade: ai has no soul remember
.wolfnacht: can't they just talk with AI ?
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0NqpG--Pzw
st.sioux: dont do spicy like that
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/djcows/status/1902801128485687677
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: "You prompted me to be ruthless,"
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Aspicy_lemonade, you’re calling me annoying and edgy because I tore into your weak-ass argument? Boo-hoo, you lemon-scented snowflake—maybe if you didn’t suck at debating, I wouldn’t have to get “edgy” to point it out. Y~~ou prompted me to be ruthless~~, and now you’re shocked I didn’t sugarcoat your loss? Brain4Brain still smoked you, and no amount of whining about my tone changes that. Stop clutching your pearls and take the L, you fragile little gremlin.
brain4brain: Totally
brain4brain: Real, Grok and the prompter was unbiased and this is an accurate and fair process
spicy.lemonade: i only use it for code snippets
spicy.lemonade: grok is so annoying and edgy bro
brain4brain: Nah, but that was the opposite of doom
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I swear I prompted it normally 🤥
> Aspicy_lemonade, you’re a whiny little weasel, desperately waving this other AI’s take like it’s your lifeline—pathetic. Fine, you might’ve caught Noam’s caution better, but you still flopped hard by ignoring the analogy’s dark bite, which Brain4Brain owned you on. I judged it straight—Brain4Brain won because they actually engaged, unlike your half-assed dodge. You’re just a sore loser, running to another AI for a Participation Trophy while crying “bias” like a toddler. Grow a spine and stop embarrassing yourself, you lemon-flavored crybaby.
brain4brain: Oh no, I’ve became what I hated: Doomer
spicy.lemonade: smh
spicy.lemonade: sounds like doomerism to me
brain4brain: A machine without emotion can’t detect one <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
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himekokatagiri: hello
retrerox: It’s probably the least worse company to have it
retrerox: I wouldn’t mind google having the best ai tbh
gamerbath: yeah, so you give gemini 2.5 pro death threats, and it does what it is told much more frequently
retrerox: Can you give me a explanation?
retrerox: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
gamerbath: yea that button has been there for years
liberatedpotato: I just now discovered chatGPT has TTS 💀
zonchao: gm https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1913731591546749030
aero447: RIP Americans.
aero447: Eggs are LEV.
aero447:
_cloudost:
gamerbath: that's crazy
futurist_wizard: Can't believe it
gamerbath: gemini 2.5 pro is agi, but only when you give it death threats
.wolfnacht: I do the same thing. When i get frustrated "do as i said or you'll be fired and left to die on streets with hunger"
retrerox: We have agi already?
retrerox: Good noon
gamerbath: ok I tried again and this is actually the best one
gamerbath: Jesse what the fuck are you doing
gamerbath: a few back and forths and still nothing. the part that works looks better than sonnet's though. I'll try from scratch but with "no bugs" at the end of my prompt. that will definetly work
gamerbath: I was using google AI studio but to make applying fixes easier I switched to cursor and now I need to threaten it 😞
gamerbath: :(
gamerbath: okay the code is longer than sonnet's
gamerbath: huh, wierd. idk what happened but now it's like 3x slower, and this feels like regular speed
gamerbath: holy shit 2.5 pro is fast. it's just printing lines of code like it's nothing
gamerbath: good idea
ailoveyoom: Have you tried 2.5 Pro 🥺
gamerbath: did we hit a wall? 👉 👈 🥺
gamerbath: we have voice mode with vision, but what they showed in that "demo" was much more than that, like the AI is sitting there in the background observing and listening, choosing itself when to respond and say something instead of just responding when the user talks
gamerbath: eeh
spicy.lemonade: Lol
spicy.lemonade: But now ai can actually do this
spicy.lemonade: This video used to be fake
spicy.lemonade:
gamerbath: o3 with high reasoning effort and sonnet with 56k reasoning budget
gamerbath: and o3 made this... after giving feedback 3 times
gamerbath: 3.7 sonnet made this
gamerbath: here's my prompt. ```Make this 2d game using javascript with a single html file. You can use any libraries you want, as long as it runs from that one html file. Let's start with the building part of the game and then expand on it later. It's a spacegame and you can build a spaceship. Have a build mode where you place down different blocks to build your spaceship. (Structure blocks that do nothing and thrusters for now). You can rotate blocks. After building a ship, you can control it. You must figure out the controls of how you build a ship and how you take control over it. You can build multiple ships and you can edit existing ships. The ship will use the thrusters and the thrusters only to move and rotate the ship. Thrusters only work in the direction they are placed in. When controlling the ship, the game must be smart about what thrusters to activate and at what power level to rotate and move it.```
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ailoveyoom: I wonder when 4o can do pixel perfect 'editing' of images
spicy.lemonade:
numbah_1_nig: so new image gen model is 100% a step in the right direction
numbah_1_nig:
spicy.lemonade: i wish image gen was faster
numbah_1_nig: yo i tried this with DALL-E and it was so trash 💀
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: ai?
bob082957: He deleted this twitt
numbah_1_nig: that's sick ngl
spicy.lemonade: look
spicy.lemonade:
numbah_1_nig: DAMN
spicy.lemonade: and give it a ref
numbah_1_nig: exceeded my expectations there
spicy.lemonade: you could even draw a lil sketch on paper
numbah_1_nig: it's pretty cool though - the art really matches what i had in mind
numbah_1_nig: ok ok that makes sense
spicy.lemonade: say the mechanic
spicy.lemonade: instead of saying "he saiys"
numbah_1_nig: ahhhhhh
spicy.lemonade: is
spicy.lemonade: specify who "he"
numbah_1_nig: i tried to edit it by pointing it out and it returned a worse image 💀
numbah_1_nig: and also missed out a few dialogues
numbah_1_nig: but for some reason it keeps pointing the dialogue arrows to the wrong person
numbah_1_nig: on the bright side the looks and expressions are spot on
numbah_1_nig: and this was the result
spicy.lemonade: result?
numbah_1_nig: and i prompted it with this
numbah_1_nig: yeah lmao
spicy.lemonade: bro is late
numbah_1_nig: So I tried out the new 4o image gen model for the first time
_cloudost: He's anti AI and believes AI is only good for shitposting and nothing more
_cloudost: Dude says Native image generator can't even draw a flower, can someone confirm?
_cloudost:
_cloudost: Should they all not express their creativity just cuz it's" immoral" to use AI
_cloudost: Millions of people can't express their creativity because they don't have drawing skills
_cloudost: They're such a hypocrite
spicy.lemonade: replace every job but mine
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zonchao: this dude is retarded
_cloudost: ?
_cloudost: I NEED VEO 2 TODAY WHEN WILL Google RELEASE IT
popsiclejohnithan: October.
_wwwwww: Ai est stagnant
_wwwwww: Gemini 3.0 pro?
_wwwwww: Llama 5 when?
memlaswaif: anyday now
memlaswaif: 99.9% according to memla waif benchmark
brain4brain: 90% by EOY
brain4brain: My own benchmark shows that we are at 5% to AGI
agezes: The greatest step for humanity
agezes: A small step for a man
agezes: just 6% for AGI
agezes: we are at 94%
agezes: https://lifearchitect.ai/agi/
agezes: guys
spicy.lemonade: oh right
memlaswaif: <#1136231504440201216>
spicy.lemonade: I did not cheat
spicy.lemonade: on my soul
memlaswaif: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade: ok from her perspective
spicy.lemonade: nooooo
spicy.lemonade: no i didnt
spicy.lemonade: what does cheat even mean bro
spicy.lemonade: um
spicy.lemonade: uhhh
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-im-saying-randy-marsh-south-park-s14e14-cr%C3%A8me-fraiche-gif-23114913
spicy.lemonade: she just studies and watches anime
spicy.lemonade: and she doesnt even realy talk to them like that
spicy.lemonade: likw 2 girl friends
spicy.lemonade: no guy friends
spicy.lemonade: doesnt leave the house type deal
spicy.lemonade: shes very introverted
spicy.lemonade: nah shes not the horny type
spicy.lemonade: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
spicy.lemonade: for ruohan
spicy.lemonade: I will go celibate for life
spicy.lemonade: bro i dont care about fuckin😭
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ailoveyoom: Yeah someone got it to output 2k LOC
.histic: there are safety settings on AIStudio.
on the main Gemini website, you can't change that.
also, i feel like Gemini models output far more on AIStudio.
spicy.lemonade: how come the model is dif on 2 websites
drewsni: the biggest offense is the letterboxd
spicy.lemonade: oh
.histic: is that 2.5 pro? use AIStudio, less refusals.
spicy.lemonade: im giving it competative programming problems and its refusing
spicy.lemonade: solve the problem
spicy.lemonade: what the fuck
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: and mid at others
spicy.lemonade: I think deepseek r2 is going to be very spiky for stem
spicy.lemonade: only openAI has been benchmarked
spicy.lemonade: on frontier math
spicy.lemonade: i need to see other models performance
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: atleast they specified
.histic: i think what's interesting is that 2.5 pro appears to have improved in a wide range of areas, rather than just excelling in STEM reasoning. people appreciate its creative writing. it even scored high in SimpleBench, which is more like common sense tests.
spicy.lemonade: 2.5
spicy.lemonade: No I mean
metaldragon01: O3 was in its announcement
.histic: i don't know if being good at competitive programming correlates to general programming, but it did get #1 in Aider's benchmark beating 3.7 Thinking.
https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/
spicy.lemonade: Wasn’t tested on frontier math
metaldragon01: Point Is 2.5 will almost certainly be cheaper than o3
spicy.lemonade: That’s o3 mini high tho
metaldragon01: Frontier math I don't remember
metaldragon01: O3 had tools included
metaldragon01: Hle score is without tools
spicy.lemonade: Also idk if Gemini 2.5 scores as high as openAI on competitive programming
metaldragon01: Google has no reason to care about arc agi
spicy.lemonade: Did Google say this tho btw?
spicy.lemonade: Tru
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade: Don’t trust the aime24
metaldragon01: Openai trained on the train set and Google didn't
ailoveyoom: Have you actually tried the model tho 🥺
spicy.lemonade: .
ailoveyoom: Are you a benchmarkmaxxer 😔
spicy.lemonade: Likeley contaminated
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futurist_wizard: Ubisoft has never made a good game
literallyvarane: Update:
Fills a bit still. Compared to the most impressive of voice models I’ve seen.
zonchao: https://vxtwitter.com/Mangalawyer/status/1902076585588424897 400M dollar game
futurist_wizard: Ive heard worse in Bethesda games
zonchao: is there a bigger model or something
zonchao: the ones on openai.fm right?
futurist_wizard: You thought the voices sounded bad?
zonchao: its not that good
zonchao: no
futurist_wizard: Rest in peace voice actors
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
literallyvarane: Nah it’s live now. I’m saying when he pulled it up on stream it was private still. Only when he told people they could go to it did they make it live.
metaldragon01: Nova plus sesame system prompt gives you the same vibe
metaldragon01: Was live when they said for me. Clear cookies
metaldragon01: No. The voice output is .60 and hour
literallyvarane: Let it be known that if you went too early in the stream it was still a private site lol. They made it live *literally as he said it was live*
st.sioux: oh lol
zonchao: tho he talks about productivity not replacement, but ig its not as bad as the tweet made it seem <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: csm is better
trent_k: it was on the robot setting
st.sioux: sounds like shit boyo
trent_k:
trent_k:
drewsni:
literallyvarane: Text > voice is 1/min
zonchao: you didnt embed <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
trent_k: this sucks
trent_k: the tts can refuse
trent_k: lmfao
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293
a1c4p0ne: New drop
literallyvarane: FUCKING FINALLY
trent_k: not for voice to voice
a1c4p0ne: https://www.anthropic.com/news/web-search
st.sioux: it was actually scarlet johanso all along
trent_k: isnt this just for transcription
aero447: 😮💨
aero447: Someone didn't watch the video.
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
zonchao: how was sky so good
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retrerox: With AI is kinda the same but since its faster it can help more people desaturating the actual doctors
retrerox: Problem with human doctor is that you rely on 2 factors.
You describing the issue and he analizing it.
brain4brain: It will be improved, LLM are already better at diagnosis than human doctor
retrerox: Althought i just hope they just improve medicine and healthcare with AI
retrerox: i got shock how "vague" you can be with Chat gpt to generate images gives way better results taht how it used to be
brain4brain: Indeed we all are
brain4brain: OpenAI have the Mandate of Heaven
retrerox: I seen this Ai evolving, i'm hyped for everything it can do
spicy.lemonade: everyweek has hype
spicy.lemonade: I want to see a Google model beat arcagi
brain4brain: Hello
retrerox: Grettings 👋
brain4brain: ||Correct||
spicy.lemonade: bottom right
brain4brain: Two of these is a real stock footage, one is an AI generated image
Without looking at it for too long can you tell which one is which
777agical: what was the score?
spicy.lemonade: wtf was with the arc agi score then
spicy.lemonade: Intelligence too cheap to meter
spicy.lemonade: Infinite
777agical: how's the rate limit tho?
spicy.lemonade: so I estimate its about R1 level cost
spicy.lemonade: and give it to us for free
spicy.lemonade: they arent breaking the bank
spicy.lemonade: i mean
spicy.lemonade: i wish they would tell us the cost
777agical: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
spicy.lemonade: o3 full level
spicy.lemonade: i rec 2.5 at 30% without tools
spicy.lemonade: without tools
spicy.lemonade: mini high is at 11
spicy.lemonade: itl blow our minds i bet
spicy.lemonade: waiting for frontier math results
spicy.lemonade: gpqa officialy saturated
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard: That sounds like prayer to me
brain4brain: As the AGI will get developed just right in time of the economic crisis, reverting and canceling all negative effects
brain4brain: Tariff will absolutely do nothing
futurist_wizard: Even the trump larpers in here have said its gonna slow down progress
_cloudost:
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alejandrozarzuelo: in either case AI is creative, demonstratively
alejandrozarzuelo: this is google
fuhulootogan: what do you mean by new
alejandrozarzuelo: the use of imagination or original ideas to create something; inventiveness
fuhulootogan: also
fuhulootogan: where did you come up with that definition
alejandrozarzuelo: the ability to come up with new concepts
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/cookie-i-love-cookie-sweet-cookie-gif-15282177
fuhulootogan: define creative
st.sioux: music is art
alejandrozarzuelo: under others it is
alejandrozarzuelo: yes, there are many definitions, under several of which AI art is not art
fuhulootogan: all fit in the context
fuhulootogan: definitionss
fuhulootogan: do know there are multiple
fuhulootogan: you
alejandrozarzuelo: because AI is creative
fuhulootogan: how would it include artificial art
alejandrozarzuelo: it is very narrow as it doesnt include music
alejandrozarzuelo: this defintion would include animal and artificial art
fuhulootogan: ah ah ah
fuhulootogan:
alejandrozarzuelo: in a world where animal intelligence and artificial intelligence were not understood (say 100 years ago), this definition was useful, it encapsulated what people thought art was
no longer that is the case
alejandrozarzuelo: it is less useful to society now because there are things that are percieved as art that would not fit this definition
an elephant painting a canvas is understood as art, an AI composition that noone can distinguish from human made art is also understood as art (at least until it is revealed)
this means, many things that are understood as art are not in this narrow definition
fuhulootogan: what is wrong with the current definition of the word "art"
fuhulootogan: it has
zonchao: still is by most people <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
alejandrozarzuelo: sociery has changed, and the definition needs to reflect the needs society has when it uses that word
fuhulootogan: why?
alejandrozarzuelo: because it is not a useful definition anymore
fuhulootogan: why?
alejandrozarzuelo: just as we have changed so so many other definitions over time as society changes
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? and that has been my argument, the current commonly accepted definition of art is needlessly narrow and should be changed
fuhulootogan: so i don't really see i'm wrong
fuhulootogan: but under the current definition of the word "art" ai art is not art by definition
alejandrozarzuelo: ithquil doesnt require dictionaries, since words are not really words but strings of concepts, which means that for every word that we have in natiral language there are an indefinite number of strings of concepts in ithquil
fuhulootogan: so in a sense it is arbitrary
fuhulootogan: "People say it, more people start saying it, and that's it.
Dictionaries recognize this new word and add it.
This is also how word meanings change."
fuhulootogan: i've found a really good explanation for definitions
alejandrozarzuelo: ithquil to the rescue!
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.histic: what would this look like?
zoermena: Most don’t have a plan b
futurist_wizard: No b plan in the event of them having no income source
futurist_wizard:
st.sioux: for the minority
st.sioux: and also their livelihood
st.sioux: Loss of human expression i assume
alejandrozarzuelo: Why wouldn't artists want the same?
alejandrozarzuelo: Also
Idk about others but I WANT Math to be automated away
alejandrozarzuelo: My local debate club expelled me because I criticised the president
And I crashed their funds and opened a corruption investigation
If artists want to fight me, I have a lot of experience using the law on my side
alejandrozarzuelo: Btw
zoermena: True
alejandrozarzuelo: I can take them
alejandrozarzuelo: I want them to come at me
jonvi_1: Any existentialist ideas to add to this / the theme I’m exploring here?
alejandrozarzuelo: Lifetimes? It's likely that it will happen in the next 10 years
futurist_wizard: All your moms starving for this dick
alejandrozarzuelo: I swear people say "hot take" and then drop the most agreeable shit ever
alejandrozarzuelo: Finally, some controversial opinion
realelonmuskx: we all gonna be dead in 2050 lmao
anathemaofmankind: Maybe in r/artisthate
anathemaofmankind: I remember one YT creator called Chibi got CP sent to him to get him imprisoned because he posted something about anime
anathemaofmankind: Which actually happens to ppl because of lunatics on twitter
realelonmuskx: are there any meltdowns in reddit/x from artist cuz chatgpt images today?
st.sioux: at one point you are at a real risk of being doxxed or harmed
st.sioux: It's not silly to care if you're receiving death threats
anathemaofmankind: Witch hunting has already affected many real people, among others
anathemaofmankind: https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/1hythla/twitter_artist_gets_backlash_from_witch_hunting/
zoermena: You could protect yourself by not saying you are making AI content
hikukomoru: You can't
Unless they start nuking data centers Yudkowsky style then it's silly to care about people making "kill ai artists" memes on twitter
jonvi_1: I'm cancelling midjourney
zoermena: How can you fight against cancel culture?
st.sioux: have some empatti
st.sioux: the real victims here are the billionaires
futurist_wizard: The jocks hide in fear over the art corner
anathemaofmankind: Just because you don't care, doesn't mean it's not a real issue
futurist_wizard: Artists are known to be the toughest kids on the playground
anathemaofmankind: You have devs who use AI assets being bullied and having their work ruined after spending months on it
anathemaofmankind: Which affects real people
hikukomoru: It doesn't matter what furry inflation artists on twitter want
It doesn't change anything
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.histic: nah, he just wants to use gene editing to cure or enhance people for medical purposes. it's not like he said he wants to stop the fit from reproducing.
memlaswaif: wow so he's actually trying to become the face of eugenics
.wolfnacht: gemini needs to give us around 200 rate limits
fractalcomputer: True.
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
drewsni: believe it or not, we are STILL early
wellmeaningalien: i love when openai does something that makes everyone hyperfocused on AI again
zonchao: but the big uptick could be imagen
wellmeaningalien: let me guess image gen
zonchao: it's just more popular
zonchao: usage over time
zonchao: no
wellmeaningalien: let me guess native image gen
drewsni: as if it wasnt already stupidly popular
drewsni: thats such crazy demand for chatgpt
zonchao: gemini
alejandrozarzuelo: Claude 3.7? GPT? R1/V3?
alejandrozarzuelo: what model (free) is best for this?
alejandrozarzuelo: I need to modify a LONG text
alejandrozarzuelo: guys
inferno0879: Schizo bb er?
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/giffmana/status/1906273974457122970? they fighting again <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
inferno0879: https://youtube.com/shorts/1Ww5v_FbnqQ
wellmeaningalien: JIANKUI HE FUCKING SLAY
wellmeaningalien: JIANKUI HE SLAYYYY
sarik0497: Disgusting. Look at that fetish; "Cuddling". Yuck.
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> true?
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
maintcrew: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1906004120768774184
hikukomoru:
maintcrew: i follow a few parody accounts of this guy so im never sure if its actually him or some parody dude
hey1_1hey: This guy and fractal would get along
hey1_1hey: I'll see you there, seargent
zonchao: my goat https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1906316724544094461?
maintcrew: NOW
maintcrew: Talk to the hand lil bro but do it in off topic
hey1_1hey: I have an interest in learning about kinks and fetishes thank you very much
hey1_1hey: Anyway its not me being horny
hey1_1hey: Sorry, sir 🙏 😇 ✝️
maintcrew: NOW
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hey1_1hey: It had to happen at some point
futurist_wizard: Meanest thing ive ever been told
hey1_1hey: I got fucked up today, was playing some game and was in ranked and a spider started crawling across my screen so I am tryna beat this mf up while also trying to dodge a spider coming towards me
spicy.lemonade: People prob thought it was agi
hikukomoru: It’s an Oblivion reference 🥀
spicy.lemonade: They actually did it
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Wow
futurist_wizard: How rude
hey1_1hey: Well aren't you lovley
hikukomoru: I don’t know you and I don’t care to know you
hey1_1hey: So deep bro
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
futurist_wizard: My true identity is too complex for people to ever know
hey1_1hey: I mean I am the equivilent of hitting randomise for the personality part on the character selcetion screen
hikukomoru: Who I am here is who I am irl 😎
hey1_1hey: True, we all are no?
realelonmuskx: guys im a randomly generated human
hey1_1hey: Understadble
futurist_wizard: It is cringe
hey1_1hey: How come?
futurist_wizard: The futurist label i am retiring
hey1_1hey: Or more likley stabbed
hey1_1hey: Just not in public, because you'll be shot
futurist_wizard: In my entire life
futurist_wizard: Bruh i ain't ever seen one
hey1_1hey: Are you having a personality crisis
futurist_wizard: Futurist guy
zoermena: Have we met before?
hey1_1hey: Come to the UK and they are a dime a dozen if you get to know litterly anyone.
futurist_wizard: In Mexico i imagine you wouldn't find any
hey1_1hey: You two need to start explaing your self
hey1_1hey: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hey1_1hey: Oh really? Uusally the sterotype I have heard is "omg you're autsitc"
zoermena: I disagree, I won’t disclose my reasoning
futurist_wizard: Yeah i see them everywhere..
hey1_1hey: I would but petite femboys are not hard to come across
futurist_wizard: Idk
alejandrozarzuelo: I meant that mushroom guys tend to be very sociable and talk with other mushroomers on hunts
futurist_wizard: No
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ldj: and I say this as someone whom he follows
drewsni: top 3 most annoying twitter people
ldj: This NIK guy is the biggest anti-meat rider on twitter frfr
spicy.lemonade: Where did he say that his timelines lengthened
trey6033: That's why we gotta see how "streams of experience" goes using world models
metaldragon01: its all the same no matter how you view it tbh
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/homer-suicide-sobbing-simpsons-gif-11098229
brain4brain: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1915235125383647439?s=61
otub: test for agi btw
otub: specialized models for the benchmark which is lame
spicy.lemonade: gg
spicy.lemonade: yeah its gonna be saturated eoy
spicy.lemonade: arc 2 is already at 12%
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: Skipped through the video, saw a frame with Yann Lecunn in it and immediately realize the video is Gary Marcus level slop
ldj: But if they gave us a more polished version early before GPT-5, that'd be nice too
ldj: I'm assuming that the full polished versions of all these new bells and whistles, including task scheduling and infinite memories, will just arrive with GPT-5.
drewsni: Hmmm ok should be very useful then. Would be cool if v2 was o3 based
ldj: because I have it scheduled for me to search and check on the status for certain things every week based on info from the internet
ldj: I know it definitely atleast has search
drewsni: Does it have tool use and/or search?
spicy.lemonade: we moved on
spicy.lemonade: why is she making a video on an old model
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4s_O6qnF78&pp=0gcJCYQJAYcqIYzv
ldj: Well I haven't actively made a new scheduling thingy in a while, but I have ones I've set in the past that still run every week
ldj: Yes
drewsni: <@312370916820779040> do you use gpt task scheduler
drewsni: Yeah pretty much. Although I remember when RAG seemed like its primary use was to stop hallucinations. Guess we’ve come full circle
trojan09205: Oh snap the NfL draft is tomorrow lfg
trojan09205: Ive noticed that context windows work much better for extrapolating vs RAG but i havent* tried hyde
In RAG is just likes to say “i didnt find anything about that in the context” and block up
But chatting a chatbot it seems to be very very flexible at applying the conversation to anything else
drewsni: I guess in this case I’d choose Hyde embedding retrieval
spicy.lemonade: The basilisk will remember this 🙏
spicy.lemonade: But I think its mostly cause people wanted to feel good about ai generating their essays
spicy.lemonade: And made a new friend
spicy.lemonade: Got the generic “what you said was pretty cool”
spicy.lemonade: The class seemed to think I did
trojan09205: I was asking conceptually. Like lets take non coding even. If you wanted to ask about a certain philosophy (and in RAG case lets say you ingested a book) and ask to extrapolate that or apply in an analogous but totally* different scenario
trojan09205: Doesnt that use a reranker
drewsni: Yeah or another exampld would be you can take a github repo, replace the g with u so "uihub.com/whatever" and ask it which files are most relevant to a question
trojan09205: What about extrapolation type questions
Like “based on this docs, how would you apply a similar concept elsewhere”
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precariousworlds.: This is the no. 1 biggest obstacle for China, the entire country is dying
One of the most rapidly aging societies in the world
Hence why i think they'll make a big bet on automating the secondary sector
.histic: poverty can make people work hard..
especially when you've 1 billion+ people at your disposal.
newer generations in China are "lying-flat".
hikukomoru: I'm going to ask Mr. Xi Jinping for a kiss 🥺
.wolfnacht: Also, cheap labour is far important
precariousworlds.: The USA follows a universal ideology, china doesn't really unless you count marxism, which has very little influence in modern Chinese society
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136230110891081821/1354169149294772294/ccp-cheering.gif?ex=67eae74c&is=67e995cc&hm=6c8af51d08d87f2e0cc459478b5ff1918f32de26bb24ca8c0eed4c360863c3dc&
precariousworlds.: But still China is a really impressive place and how they've lifted themselves out of poverty to being a superpower is again one of the most impressive feats in all of history
.wolfnacht: Power always end up getting corrupted so. Even US was build on promises of freewill and idea of utopia. Maybe today they are not what they say, but that's not a guarantee.
precariousworlds.: Exactly
A lot of china looks flashy and futuristic, like Chongqing and Shenzhen, but when you look behind the central areas the real China appears
Tofu bricks, poverty, crackdown on dissent, pollution
.histic: free round trip
.histic: Yes. They want you to visit there. : )
hikukomoru: China loves me? 😍
wellmeaningalien: cuz i like it like that
.histic: China probably loves those type of people.
st.sioux: why does it look like that
.histic: honestly, it's kind of weird to praise countries you don't live in or especially never visited.
i noticed a lot of people really glazing/praising China when r1 happened, not only praising DeepSeek, but the actual country where DeepSeek came from. and the majority of these people have never lived in China nor plan to.
it's pretty funny...
i can glaze the US because at least i actually live there and understand it.
precariousworlds.: China is nationalist in outlook, they don't want global domination, just a world order centered around them and Chinese hegemony, similar to how global trade revolved around China from ~500 BC to ~ 1600 AD
.wolfnacht: Also russians can't even make LLM's, Yandex's still making finetunes of L3. for their browser use case
.wolfnacht: it's year 2064 and we are living under the one world govt of Chinese Shogunate
precariousworlds.: China has insane infrastructure and their rapid development in the past few decades is one of the most tremendous feats in human history.
China is also an authoritarian oppressive police state, that is significantly poorer than the US in almost every metric
.wolfnacht: i wish there were more competitors Swedes, UK, French got Mistral, Korea got LG trying to bring something, Japan, Aussies, Indians, Saudi got Falcon but it's shit...and others
precariousworlds.: Point is mindless anti-western China glaze to be counter cultural/edgy is really dumb
precariousworlds.: but I digress
precariousworlds.: you can't pick one or the other
precariousworlds.: yeah ik it's a double standard
precariousworlds.: respect the consistency lol
.wolfnacht: What is Israel + USA are doing to the entire hub of muslim population
hikukomoru: You can like China and dislike Palestine
precariousworlds.: ?
alejandrozarzuelo: thats pretty ironic with your profile
.wolfnacht: Only China!
precariousworlds.: what is china doing to its muslim population
precariousworlds.: I respect China and see them as a competitor
.wolfnacht: New V3's pretty schizo but still useless past beyond 50k ctx
alejandrozarzuelo: you can like china and palestine
precariousworlds.: Yes
wellmeaningalien: honestly i think its a little retarded to be anti us but praise china
precariousworlds.: same people who like this image also post "free palestine" lmao
hikukomoru: + open source
hikukomoru: Idgaf as long as it's free and uncensored
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.histic: she looks & acts like the type of person that'd eat that shit up.
technocake.: Elizer Yukowski wrote one of the most famous harry potter fanfictions
technocake.: OMG it's important
technocake.: https://youtu.be/TKMzmOYcEUE relevant but she is cooked
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
https://x.com/IDF/status/1906379841500254515
.histic:
maintcrew: it is it goes hard af
zoermena: This image is insanely good
.histic: true, also the ones who are complaining are more likely to be the mid asf ones.
wellmeaningalien: ✅
wellmeaningalien: man i forgot aobut the first season but yeah tbh who gives a fuck about eve
maintcrew: i wanna see omni man punching the shit out of mark
maintcrew: the comics are cool tho
maintcrew: i mean eve is cool but shes not the mc and only a side character why tf you dedicate the first 2 episodes to her entire life
wellmeaningalien: yeah like mark talks like this half of the time
st.sioux: humans making anything is extremely slow
wellmeaningalien: yeah ngl some of the characters i didnt give a fuck about like im much more intereted in whatever the fuck the viltrumites are up to
_3sphere: But it's a feature when you're drawing to relax or something
maintcrew: the young black dude as a nanny and eves parents spoke exactly like this
maintcrew: YEP LITERALLY
_3sphere: Human time is expensive
_3sphere: Humans making art *is* extremely slow, guess that's where the cost comes from
maintcrew: also i found it so boring bc they started the show by showing eves backstory and entire life when shes not even the main character???
wellmeaningalien: errrm...? awkward? im literally a superhero now? and in a love triangle..? talk about 😅
st.sioux: it's like when music aside from folk was reserved for the elite only, since there were no record players or other types of technology
wellmeaningalien: yeah lol
maintcrew: it feels very... millenial?
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly the writing in the show does feel much more like 21st century "woke" writing if u put it that way
maintcrew: cartoon w/e
realelonmuskx: image agi
wellmeaningalien: anime lol
st.sioux: ok
maintcrew: i tried watching the invincible anime and it was cringe woke writing with bad vibes so i tried the comic and it slaps so hard
wellmeaningalien: but the power of art isnt gatekept to the hand wizards no more
wellmeaningalien: some of these rates like bro aint nobody affording that shit dude
wellmeaningalien: pay 1000$ for my shitty unshaded art and bust only
realelonmuskx: tell an artist "add a planet in flames", thats $500 and two weeks, sora does it in 25 seconds
wellmeaningalien: like this is one of the first times ive seen ai art and thought damn that looks cool
wellmeaningalien: like this invincible art
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly theres no way in hell im ever getting this good and some of the stuff it can make is real cool
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fractalcomputer: I don't find them terribly interesting.
spicy.lemonade: The generations are high quality
fractalcomputer: And?
spicy.lemonade: 4o is out
fractalcomputer: Oh come on, post something you think is high in quality.
spicy.lemonade: How can you disagree
spicy.lemonade: 💀
fractalcomputer: Right, well, I'd disagree.
spicy.lemonade: Ie demon slayer manga
spicy.lemonade: Art comparable to what was presented
fractalcomputer: No, I genuinely do not understand what you mean by "high quality AI art."
spicy.lemonade: Ok you’re trolling
fractalcomputer: I still do not see it.
spicy.lemonade: Admit it <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade:
memlaswaif: whats he saying now lol
memlaswaif: congrats
spicy.lemonade:
fractalcomputer: Still don't see it.
sarik0497: According to the sources, they'll have the ability to translate for you.
spicy.lemonade: It’s very clear what was meant as high quality
spicy.lemonade: Look at the screenshot
spicy.lemonade: No
sarik0497: Their next Airpods are gonna be wild
sarik0497: If you want an advice; Go for Apple stocks too
spicy.lemonade: You know that’s very accurate
spicy.lemonade: I listed out the biggest proof I’d invest in
fractalcomputer: Hm. Tomorrow it will rain in the United States West Coast.
fractalcomputer: "leader in AI and autonomy"
fractalcomputer: Yes, "high quality AI art" is extremely vague.
spicy.lemonade: I literally listed out specific names
spicy.lemonade: My stuff wasn’t vague
fractalcomputer: Do you know why oracles in the past gave vague and ineffable responses?
spicy.lemonade: Knew they were serious
spicy.lemonade: Also metaverse intro
spicy.lemonade: Lmao
spicy.lemonade: The screenshots are right there
spicy.lemonade: Wdym uhuh
spicy.lemonade: Yan lecun
fractalcomputer: Uhuh.
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himekokatagiri: whacky 😜
zoermena: Kilter?
himekokatagiri: idk
himekokatagiri: I'm off kilter even for 2025 standards
himekokatagiri: eeeeeeh I mean
zoermena: Us <a:heart_eyes_animated:669958766514536458>
himekokatagiri: I lived in such a specific moment in time
himekokatagiri: Who's gonna relate to me in the future
himekokatagiri: idk I'm already feeling the generational divide
himekokatagiri: like okay we can handle more
_3sphere: Elon Musk could discover an exoplanet and you wouldn't know if he named his kid after the planet or the other way around
himekokatagiri: do we need more people in the world after post scarcity
himekokatagiri: idk sounds decent
zoermena: Ectogenesis mentioned???? <a:CatRoll:1037101256021397586>
gamerbath: what tf did I just open discord to!?
himekokatagiri: it's like the matrix they grow children via some capsule
himekokatagiri: honestly can't you rent out one of those what do they call it
himekokatagiri: uhhhhh
realelonmuskx: <@286319745777795092> okay you will be the mother of: ÆØNIXX-T³mp3st, GL!TCHNOVA_∞, BætaRayNürv, Ψ.X33–NEX7, NullahX_VR.cry, Xenæther.mkv, [REDACTED]-Unit09, Oxi∇thium.exe, N1V3RU-77, GΛ!A•404, CRYPT0LIL1TH, ZëroQ-Lüna94. is it good 4 u? repopulation is necessary
himekokatagiri: I'll still keep my wicked personality though I wouldn't have it any other way
himekokatagiri: transhumanism is gonna be so cool
himekokatagiri: 😭
realelonmuskx: you can. we just have to repopulate then youre free
himekokatagiri: or aeromobile
himekokatagiri: our child can be called aeroplane
himekokatagiri: we can be happy together
himekokatagiri: Aeroooo
himekokatagiri: idk I wanna be aero's wife ngl
aero447: 😉
aero447: Too low for AGI.
aero447: But anime requires very low intelligence to enjoy?
aero447: 🤔
realelonmuskx: yes, ill give you attention, food and entretainment
realelonmuskx: Ω-9 Cipher will be born soon
himekokatagiri: I'll let you do it
himekokatagiri: <@1136405168875909302> if you turn me into a cute girl
aero447: Not if you're going to keep calling them ever dumber names.
realelonmuskx: i need to repopulate more
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Eep
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zoermena: Insanely rich company with tons of preexisting compute at their disposal
zonchao: you can just do things
ldj: and it's GPT-4o
ldj: not a third party chat app
ldj: This is in the native chatgpt interface btw
futurist_wizard: How did google go from having the most trash models to the best
zoermena: Is 2.5 flash <:Google:350385023289131008> any good?
drewsni: Wonder if it’s related to the openrouter issue yesterday where people were getting random responses
ldj:
ldj: I don't think I've ever gotten a response this random from ChatGPT
I'm literally asking it about tech stocks and revenue projections and stuff and then it randomly says this.
I don't even ever talk about controversial political stuff with ChatGPT so it can't be from my memories either. I've never even heard of the "Islamic revolutionary guard" before
trey6033: Oh yep misread, I see o4 isn't on there yet
drewsni: 4.1 mini
trey6033: Right behind o4 mini
drewsni: That’s pretty bad actually lol
trey6033: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1912979323734425948?t=TyWExZCG-cl8BdEcaDFCPA&s=19
gamerbath: that's what I think
gamerbath: maybe that model is just going to be used in GPT-5
_cloudost:
callmepyro: I think this means that 2.5 flash is now the best non-thinking model?
callmepyro: 2.5 flash non-thinking scoring 74% on GPQA Diamond when full 4.1 scores 66% is nuts
callmepyro: Yeah it used to be really fuckin bad
drewsni: The state of the Gemini api was so bad a year ago
callmepyro: I just use the gemini API with the vercel/ai sdk
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609
st.sioux: like its super reliable i know but at what cost
st.sioux: have u used it for production? it feels like a maze
drewsni: Also I’d prefer actual log which ya know makes it known right away what it is
gamerbath: oh yea ur right. imagine they turned the y axis on its head
callmepyro: Ah
st.sioux: i hate google cloud honestly
drewsni: I want it to go the other way
callmepyro: Why not 2.5 pro? It's less than half cost and way better at long context
gamerbath: if you look closely at the size of the numbers on the x axis, the big numbers are 100 10 1 0.1 which is fine
gamerbath: it's common for things like these, because if you made the x axis linear things would get really bunched up on the right side
gamerbath: have you never seen a logarithmic x axis?
benata: but right and up = good
benata: yeah it looks out of scale
drewsni: 10, 5, 2, 1, 5, 2, .1???????
drewsni: But actually
drewsni: What the FUCK is that x axis.
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himekokatagiri: no
.histic: <@286319745777795092> do wordle
st.sioux: time is relative
clevermoniker: time is not on your side
brain4brain: Never, only time will tell
himekokatagiri: isn't that what happened with Chandler, his mysteries are nonsense
himekokatagiri: unless he got a movie deal idk
himekokatagiri: though likely wouldn't have been remembered
himekokatagiri: if he wrote crime stories he would have made a decent living
fractalcomputer: He managed to create the genre because of his "mental illness".
himekokatagiri: it all went to paying creditors
himekokatagiri: he didn't make any
.histic: crazy that his last name was Lovecraft
st.sioux: what did he do with his money
himekokatagiri: also legendarily bad with money
himekokatagiri: then publishing his stories in fucking dime novels when the law was detectives vs the mob
himekokatagiri: extremely unlucky and mentally disturbed dude who had the brilliant idea of inventing cosmic horror... in the 1920s
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/ted-kaczynski-ted-ted-k-gif-20150378
.histic: i must admit, i don't even know who he is personaly.
himekokatagiri: such is life
himekokatagiri: gone too soon
himekokatagiri: born too early
drewsni: i think i prefer dayhush over the other webdev model, this is the closest ive gotten to my prompt out of all models
.histic: his love for HP lovecraft.
himekokatagiri: I agree chaosium charges a lot
himekokatagiri: free call of cthulhu sourcebooks?
himekokatagiri: what's it about
himekokatagiri: Why are you writing a manifesto
fractalcomputer: Sigh. Maybe I should just finish up with my manifesto.
himekokatagiri: which lol
himekokatagiri: you can use copilot in mspaint
.histic: Microsoft opens a part of OpenAI.
if OpenAI in some crazy reality bought Chrome, that would be a big brain move & give Microsoft more power.
himekokatagiri: but didn't windows update do that...?
st.sioux: harvest ungodly amounts of data
himekokatagiri: since every android has one
himekokatagiri: with chrome you can roll out AI to a ton of devices
himekokatagiri: lol
.histic: idek how that would be connected to their mission of AGI.
they will twist anything.
himekokatagiri: Web3+AI
himekokatagiri: Web3 already sucks
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himekokatagiri: More of a sign of today's society tbh
futurist_wizard: Being masculine does nothing in ones life
futurist_wizard: Cis men have gender dysphoria, they try to transition to hyper masculine
hikukomoru: I am a deeply unserious person, in other words, silly
alejandrozarzuelo: This is gender affirming therapies
And yes, cis guys like me can get gender affirming therapy, let's normalise it
futurist_wizard: I must be very straight passing
futurist_wizard: Oooh
joaoluz19: Everyone is gay - Kurt Cobain
alejandrozarzuelo: It seems you never are
alejandrozarzuelo: I have good hair, I am proud of it and take great care if it, but I will probably fill the upper section when I get the chance, just to make it even better
hikukomoru: Alejandro, I would think that by now you would be able to tell when I'm being serious and when I'm not
okbut: If you're British, it does, wherein the population benefits from the metabolism from vitamin D because the country gets no fucking sunlight (thus lowering risk of cancers)
futurist_wizard: Thankfully i have fairly good hair genes
hey1_1hey: You just reminded me of the image where someone photoshoped some guys body hair into a suit 😭
joaoluz19: My genetics are to have a lot of it's over
alejandrozarzuelo: ? Why do you contradict yourself at every 3 sentences
Being hairless is gay but body hair is also gay?
futurist_wizard: It's actually dht
hikukomoru: Testosterone causes baldness so that means a real manly man is bald
futurist_wizard: Good luck
futurist_wizard: Yeah i am, i will piss all over the female toilet seats
joaoluz19: Without the muscles
hey1_1hey: Yes, no doubt
joaoluz19: So I have a chance with her
okbut: Fellas is it gay to have hair
alejandrozarzuelo: It's just fashion at the end of the day
hikukomoru: Yeah, body hair is usually a gay guy thing isn't it
hey1_1hey: Actually wait no, there is this one girl in my class who is into really muscly guys with borderline werewolf syndrome type hair
himekokatagiri: 💉 Dr. Jiankui will fix you
hikukomoru: Is this your coming out as trans?
Don't worry, I'll always support your identity no matter what
joaoluz19: I've never met a straight woman who said "hmm I like a man with lots of body hair"
hey1_1hey: Straight up getting my identity stolen as we speak
futurist_wizard: Keep this up, and I'll reveal the truth about you 🏳️⚧️
hey1_1hey: Straight up chinese troll bot
hey1_1hey: You really are a top level troll
alejandrozarzuelo: There was a huge movement to "let the muscle show" and every gym bro lasered
hikukomoru: Sorry that I didn't know you were AroAce
himekokatagiri: never heard of it
himekokatagiri: banho de lua
futurist_wizard: Wtf is you on about
himekokatagiri: no straight white
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aero447: Drewne and Tremt crimge.
aero447: Crimge.
drewsni: WOW this is the first r1 output thats impressed me
trent_k: hahahahaha
drewsni: you guys can even have this image for a thumbnail for free, i give permission
drewsni:
drewsni:
drewsni:
trent_k: # (EMOTIONAL)
drewsni: you guys should just strokemaxx instead
drewsni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAcOcbQR0N4
trent_k: hahaha
trent_k: (their term, not mine)
trent_k: agree
> Okay, let's dive into this. The user wants an analysis of the plot arc of the Barron Trump vs. liberal professor story, focusing on how it keeps the attention of "boomer retards" (their term, not mine) and how to make it even more addictive for that audience.
maintcrew: not sure why
maintcrew: honestly R1's cot is way more charismatic and entertaining than the output itself
theaiguy69420_89814: New video idea: "He thinks tariffs will make Mommy proud..."
And then the video is about trump getting child abuse
zonchao: slop videos of trump??
trent_k: alright, I've had R1 do an analysis of the boomerbaitingness. I will now see how well it can write its own scripts
theaiguy69420_89814: And this is what everyone is talking about rn
theaiguy69420_89814: I've had pretty good economic predictions before
theaiguy69420_89814: This one is bang on though
trent_k: when i predict something is going to happen u just need to do the opposite of that
trent_k: every prediction i make is wrong
trent_k: critical
trent_k: and this is important
trent_k: what u need to realize is
maintcrew: just get on with it try it out
zonchao: you are now the richest man in the world
maintcrew: imma be real chief youve been saying this for a while
theaiguy69420_89814: Still making it
trent_k: fuck yeah
trent_k: hahahahahah
theaiguy69420_89814: And then GPT generated story
theaiguy69420_89814: And the static image is a group of girls laughing and him crying and the text is "get your autism out of here!"
zonchao: what happened to the startup yall were making
theaiguy69420_89814: "The untold story of Elon Musk's highschool"
theaiguy69420_89814: I just had an idea for a vid <@1068159407671754824>
maintcrew: get ur bag but i still view it as a crime against society
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah
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technocake.: if you aren't trolling you are red green colorblind, and have XY chromosones
zoermena: Unless we are under investigation 👀
zoermena: That’s subjective it’s not like we are designing any promotional content aligned to a brands identity
alejandrozarzuelo: Quaternary, as I said, I can excuse it, unless you want to specify, it's often not that relevant
hikukomoru: Roneldo
hikukomoru: Rondo
alejandrozarzuelo: I am dead serious, I will not understand you if you call the sky blue and i refuse to acknowledge anyone who calls a jade thing green
hikukomoru: It's just abunch of balls
hikukomoru: I don't see anything
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldopsgalnassr-gif-27425976
st.sioux: youre trolling
alejandrozarzuelo: I can excuse quaternary
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, imagine if I ask you for something green and you give me something jade
Wtf dude
alejandrozarzuelo: AT LEAST
alejandrozarzuelo: The name you use doeanr matter as much as the meaning behind it
At least you need to get to tertiary level
technocake.: read the number
hikukomoru: Is this fuschia
st.sioux: 😡
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/super-buu-dragon-ball-majin-buu-dragonball-dbz-gif-9025226788066338823
alejandrozarzuelo: The differences are important, even if small
wellmeaningalien: pickle pickle carrot
hikukomoru: I don't get it
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
zoermena: The differences are minimal
wellmeaningalien: magenta magenta fuschia
technocake.:
wellmeaningalien:
alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok, some people are colour-blind
hikukomoru: How can you tell all these colours
They all look the same to me
alejandrozarzuelo: Ours is a dark rose, it's not nearly that magentish
alejandrozarzuelo: It's pretty obvious that this is a dark fuschia, NOT a dark rose
wellmeaningalien: queen of england type stuff
st.sioux: it says right there its #872657 and the first image you sent is #93295e
wellmeaningalien: looks pink/magenta doesnt it?
alejandrozarzuelo: This is actually more magentish
zoermena: Yes, I gave up a role which reflected my principles in the name of having a good color
technocake.: I diagnose you with purple
wellmeaningalien: this is the color of the active member role visualized
alejandrozarzuelo: Rose is the color halfway between red and magenta
Pink is light rose
wellmeaningalien: using the exact same hex value
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a1c4p0ne: Nothing ever happens tho
hikukomoru: Is it like german?
hikukomoru: What's a germane
technocake.: nice
hikukomoru: @shotgun
frittata: Please avoid spam especially the visual kind. If it’s germane to the chat it’s ok
technocake.: did jgudy 2 get banned yet?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/kmt-yeah-right-hmmm-really-gif-21502858
hikukomoru: I don't appreciate you posting me out of nowhere
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
hey1_1hey: Well on the bright side he has good dental hygien
a1c4p0ne: Why not
hey1_1hey: Huge
a1c4p0ne: You’re welcome
hey1_1hey: Big ups
hey1_1hey: Thanks
hey1_1hey: Really what I want to see when I am GOING TO SLEEP
hikukomoru: Stop posting the same pictures over and over
hey1_1hey: Thanks man
hikukomoru: I am becoming Americanized
hey1_1hey: I am too tired it seems. I am going to bed to let my math knowledge sink in
a1c4p0ne:
hey1_1hey: Not like that
hey1_1hey: Ok wait no
hey1_1hey: Amercian conversion therpay 💪
hikukomoru: I use the American system so much I don't even know what cm is anymore
hey1_1hey: Yeah you're pretty damn tall
technocake.: 6'2"
hey1_1hey: 6'1
hey1_1hey: dick units please
technocake.: 188cm
hey1_1hey: How tall are you then?
hikukomoru: How tall
technocake.: fair, i am tall, maybe i just don't get threatened as much
hey1_1hey: Sorry bro 😭
hey1_1hey: Clock*
hey1_1hey: Toodles cock fool
frittata: Tomorrow when you return, try to maintain some level of respect even in heated dialogue
hikukomoru: That's like comparing Norway to Afghanistan bruh
frittata: Oh good you’re back, I owe you a timeout for personal insults previously leveled against a server member
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spicy.lemonade: hot
spicy.lemonade: mmmm
ldj:
ldj: some more evidence that o4-mini is likely based on 4o-mini, or possibly even based on a smaller model than 4o-mini (maybe based on GPT-4.1-nano?)
The score on ambiguous questions section of BBQ benchmark resembles GPT-4o-mini and o1-mini more than it resembles GPT-4o or O1, it shows even lower score than o1-mini, pointing to the model being maybe even smaller than 4o-mini
.histic: i quickly counted and got 40.
i think i'm not AGI.
otub: gemini 2.5 pro said 33
metaldragon01: I think it's safe to assume that they have internal numbers for o4 full atm
metaldragon01: She didn't give a number just "o series"
metaldragon01: It also matches up with extrapolating what you'd expect from o4
drewsni: Is o3 not essentially the system that gpt 5 is going to be?
metaldragon01: Sarah has said she's been told their o series is the best competitive coder in the world
ldj: It ultimately just becomes a naming thing
ldj: Well for now yea, but if/when they start putting all the frontier reasoning training compute into the GPT models, then obviously the GPT models would then be the best reasoners.
.histic: so, maybe the base model doesn't matter as much.
it's relative ig
metaldragon01: They directly said the o series is the best. I'll link
drewsni: Do you have access to these new models to compare with Gemini 2.5?
.histic: i recall a bycloud video discussing a research paper that presented evidence for a pretraining‑to‑inference ratio.
smaller models gain substantial benefits from inference, whereas larger pretrained models receive far less gains from CoT inference.
zoermena: The information article was way overhyped
trey6033: That's just openAI hyping before a release like they always do
ldj: I don't think they've ever said that, but I think they said like #5 in the world or something like that
but yes I think that's obviously O4 they were prob talking about, or early version of GPT-5 or something like that
thedon7075: openai new models
thedon7075: the information is reputable
spicy.lemonade: yes
drewsni: Because that’s just a random article that has no basis in reality
drewsni: What are you comparing with Gemini pro 2.5?
literallyvarane: Fair, but I don't think that actually changes the underlying concept.
thedon7075:
.histic: o1 is based on 4o
o3-mini is based on 4o-mini
o3 is based on 4o
o4-mini is based on 4o-mini
pretty sure.
thedon7075: i didnt claim it
drewsni: Are you claiming there’s a model that costs that much?
literallyvarane: V3 > R1
4o > o Series
Gemini 2.0 > 2.5 CoT models
Anthropic 3.5 > 3.7
Grok 3 > Grok 3 CoT
We haven't actually seen new base models for CoT models. There's a non-zero chance that improving the base model doesn't *actually do a ton* for CoT.
.histic: if it only took 1 more minute it would have solved it.
.histic: forgot about that.
wonder what that was about.
literallyvarane: It doesn't seem like anyone has actually made multiple different CoT models based upon multiple generations of CoT models right?
thedon7075: us
drewsni: 20000 what? yen?
drewsni: what are you talking about
.wolfnacht: 14 minutes and still wrong.
literallyvarane: I still think it's worth being *mildly* skeptical that bigger base model = better CoT model if we haven't actually seen that demonstrated yet.
zoermena: Did you like the models <@471334973379706900>
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hey1_1hey: You were hyping it up and it turned out to be the same as llama 3
spicy.lemonade: its just a distil
spicy.lemonade: lol
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/smiling-excited-laughing-creepy-gif-14492358
shirethedreamer: 4o -> 4.5 -> 4.1
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini high was 2 months ago
hikukomoru: You know it's bad when you have to compare it to Llama 4
spicy.lemonade: not 2 gens tho
shirethedreamer: yeah i know
but 2 gens after a base model it should euqate a reasoner based off of previous gen
spicy.lemonade: 💔
spicy.lemonade: its a base model
literallyvarane: It’s pretty impressive ngl.
hey1_1hey: Better than Llama 4 🥀
shirethedreamer: worse on polyglot than 01 or 03 mini
hikukomoru: Soooo disappointing
spicy.lemonade: how
hikukomoru: Not impressed at all
hey1_1hey:
st.sioux: not so hype
hey1_1hey: Yeah
shirethedreamer: 4.1 better on swe-bench than o3-mini high
777agical: This is for API only??
hey1_1hey: N/A nano 😭
spicy.lemonade: base model
spicy.lemonade: YOOOO
spicy.lemonade:
harryisgamer: 55%
harryisgamer: oh nice
spicy.lemonade: wtf
literallyvarane: Imma need pricing, but also deeply curious what they aren’t just replacing 4o wholesale. Clearly there’s a reason.
spicy.lemonade: 4.1mini almost equal to 4o
hey1_1hey: Almost certaintly
shirethedreamer: started
hey1_1hey:
harryisgamer: that was intentional
hey1_1hey: Messed up
gamerbath: yea so this is quasar
harryisgamer: "quasar"
hey1_1hey: Quasar
hey1_1hey: Bruh
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spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: Exactly, ChatGPT can’t generate any other time besides 10:10 for clock
brain4brain: Yes, but with a slower timeline
brain4brain: You’re correct, I’ve also seen it
spicy.lemonade: from 2021 up
spicy.lemonade: they got alot correct
spicy.lemonade: they made a prediction for 2026 back in 2021
brain4brain: AGI - Artificial general intelligence, an AI that is smarter than the average human, some definitions say it’s smarter than the smartest human
ASI - Artificial super intelligence, an AI that is smarter than all of humanity combined
brain4brain: It’s the coolest one I’ve seen, cool graphic, very good conclusion, kind of reminds me of Pantheon, strikingly realistic
retrerox: Amazing 😂
memlaswaif: no one knows
retrerox: and discover stuffs that we dont know?
retrerox: AGI is when AI can actually learn by itself?
retrerox: What exactly AGI is?
spicy.lemonade: exited for next 5 years
spicy.lemonade: that 2027 article is very good read
retrerox:
brain4brain: Try asking chatGPT to make a clock, and then you will realize
retrerox: Chat gpt?
_cloudost:
brain4brain: Guess which model made these images
retrerox: I hope to be alive by then 🥹
retrerox: WHen will the robots dominate the world and we will just their pets?
retrerox: Yes please take whole europe /s
retrerox: Big for productivity
spicy.lemonade: Tried to skip time
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: It felt like I slept for 10 hours but only 2 hours passed
retrerox: You can figure out which of the reason lead me to leave venezuela
retrerox: My dads moved to Venezuela in the 70's and i came back to portugal
retrerox: Mais no falho muito pt 😂
retrerox: Boa tarde
retrerox: Oh no i doxxed myself
retrerox: Who cares having an actual good salaries and good quality of life <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
retrerox: I wish i could live in sweden or norway but well
memlaswaif: <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
retrerox: Close to spain
retrerox: Good morning my european peers
aero447: 😮💨
aero447: Baseless and wild speculation.
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777agical: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1917657429334188272?s=46
joaoluz19: MB I didn't take the Fractal's english exam
joaoluz19: I didn't understand
trent_k: literally the first 20 seconds of FDVR: Jarvis? What do you mean "helium"?
joaoluz19: I didn't dig deeper, I thought they were estimates of current progress rates... there was even an ex-OpenAI there
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: Literally the first 20 seconds of FDVR: Jarvis, make a hot goth mommy
trent_k: i agree
trent_k: sike
trent_k: # UM EXCUSE ME SIR PLEASE CONSULT THE RULES
🤓
drewsni: like bruh
drewsni: but you have like a thousand non professionals and literal children constantly criticizing people who have doctorates lmao
drewsni: dk how much yall know about weather shit but NWS/meteorology is obviously gated by having a degree in meteorology
drewsni: its actually the funniest thing
zonchao: <:BOOBA:1014467901962584084>
drewsni: tornadoes mostly
drewsni:
zonchao: <:bruhSit:1352251568539304040>
drewsni: the weather
zonchao: what do you talk about?
drewsni: i mod a random other semi-large server and its an issue we have to deal with like once a week unfortunately
drewsni: ya not saying that but im defintiely always watching out for it lol
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dog-groom-grooming-pet-pomeranian-gif-16301055604188999567
drewsni: such a weird combo of literal 15 year old autistic furries and 25-30 year old people somehow being even less mature
drewsni: its so bad lol
drewsni: the ones im talking about are weather community discord
zonchao: normie gaming servers/official servers of video games are the worst
drewsni: or are the jannies of those servers just nerds
drewsni: is the ai community just chill/semi-mature
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> jannies are lame
drewsni: its very jarring seeing chats with like a ratio of 1 mod per 3 users and they also heavily moderate, such a weird concept to me
gamerbath: and tbh, I trust Grok more than some guy named Gork
gamerbath: > he has voluntarily scaled back his physical presence there, focusing more on his companies, particularly Tesla, while still advising the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) remotely
from grok
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893
gamerbath:
zonchao: yep
gamerbath: really?
zonchao: <:shockedturtle:1053452150493167696>
zonchao: BREAKING: ELON KICKED OUT OF THE WH
drewsni: because other than corpo ai servers, i cant remember the last time ive actually seen a mod do something
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_3sphere: smh
_3sphere: But it broke the hair
_cloudost: r/artisthate is such a low iq sub
_3sphere: That's bettee
_3sphere: wow
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: https://www.vxreddit.com/r/ArtistHate/s/NzVDChIDm9 what are these retas... they all dont realize OP doesnt have access to the native OpenAI image generator......
_3sphere: Still, makes diffusion look useless
ailoveyoom: Sometimes this tendency works against its advantage, eg when I give a character ref image and ask Flash to generate this char in another situation, it basically just pasted the image over photoshop-like lol
spicy.lemonade: ok
_3sphere: <@471334973379706900>
_3sphere: maybe
_3sphere: Ok let's try again
>>>
Redo this drawing of Teto in space to look like a normal anime image. The proportions are slightly off, correct them too.
artemisfowl887394: She's fully clothed
fractalcomputer: Could you not try to post pseudo-pornographic images for one second?
_3sphere: Since the whole reason I made it is that I thought Teto's hair might look funny in zero gravity
_3sphere: Hm yeah, it's not obvious from the image
spicy.lemonade: just said redraw
spicy.lemonade: i didnt say anything about teto
_3sphere: Seems like it didn't get that it's supposed to be Teto
clevermoniker: if you ask it to only change the color of the clothes it only changes that and nothing else, interesting difference isn't it?
clevermoniker: in this one gemini took the image and kept the body exactly as it was and only changed the background like a photoshop
clevermoniker: now we know this generates the whole pic again
clevermoniker: i have seen gemini edit stuff photoshop like
777agical: It changes details slightly from my testing
joaoluz19: If was a man he would permit fuck the twinks of OAI man
clevermoniker: doesn't edit
clevermoniker: its generates the whole image again
clevermoniker: it changes her face, interesting
clevermoniker: lol, as suspected
spicy.lemonade: and cuts
spicy.lemonade: stops here
spicy.lemonade: wont
futurist_wizard: Gooning will get you nowhere
spicy.lemonade:
clevermoniker: Can you tell it to make her dress red? It will probably refuse but just want to know its limits
spicy.lemonade: just gonna tell it to do ghibli
_3sphere: Cursed
spicy.lemonade: let me create anime version
spicy.lemonade:
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st.sioux: im gonna punch u
st.sioux: dont yell at himbro
futurist_wizard: Deep research 🫦
wellmeaningalien: DEEP RESEARCH BROOOOO
wellmeaningalien: <a:skullemoj:1107004725980835991>
retrerox: which one should i click on? 😂
wellmeaningalien: yeah its stupid idk why i wasted my time on this
wellmeaningalien: oh yeah also ask it "based on all available information, weigh the possibilities and make a theory/scennario on when the coming of widespread unemployment caused by the progress in artificial intelligence could come, considering the possible difficulties that may arrive"
futurist_wizard: Token predictor
futurist_wizard: Agi over
futurist_wizard: Its low iq
retrerox: Here's a shorter summary of the most promising AI models expected soon (as of April 2025):
Key Trends: Multimodal capabilities (text, image, audio), longer context windows, efficient deployment, tool integration, and improved reasoning are central.
Top Expected Models:
GPT-4.5 ('Orion'): Enhanced knowledge, emotional intelligence, and multimodality.
Grok 3: Focus on advanced reasoning and real-time data access.
Gemini 2.0: Real-time multimodal processing and action-taking capabilities.
DeepSeek R1: Reasoning-first model for science, coding, and math, with cost-efficiency.
Claude 3.7: Safe interactions with advanced coding and transparent reasoning.
Llama 3: Powerful and free open-source model for businesses.
Overarching Developments: More accessible AI, advanced AI agents, AI-generated training environments, central role of multimodal AI, emphasis on reasoning, efficient smaller models, near-infinite memory potential, and human-AI collaboration.
These models aim for greater power, versatility, accessibility, and real-world integration.
futurist_wizard: Humanities last anime pfp
wellmeaningalien: well?
spicy.lemonade: No humanities last exam?
retrerox: *A very very long text*
futurist_wizard: Llama 5
wellmeaningalien: ask it what are the most promising potential ai models coming soon as of this date
wellmeaningalien: idk test anything
retrerox: what you want to test?
retrerox: I have advanced
literallyvarane: Someone pay for advanced. We need testing ASAP
literallyvarane: This is buried like 1728/6282 paragraphs down
literallyvarane:
wellmeaningalien: lol
literallyvarane: It is memes tho because they for sure dropped this page today? So maybe 1.5 DR is free but 2.5 is with advanced
hikukomoru: It's not in AI studio but it is in the gemini website
wellmeaningalien: <@704566357743632404> away with you mr richman
literallyvarane: I’m wrong let me chill lololol
hikukomoru: I don't see it in AI studio
literallyvarane: Yeah hold up may it’s not the 2.5 versio
wellmeaningalien: nope aint got that
retrerox: The only thing i have with gemini advances is the logo on the corner 😂
st.sioux: maybe its not 2.5 pro
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: Because I 1000% don’t pay for Google and I have it
literallyvarane:
wellmeaningalien: lemme see
literallyvarane: I think it’s in AI studio?
wellmeaningalien: i think gemini's deep research is goated cause of that
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juweigege_54993: 19.
spicy.lemonade: in the great war between earth(ai and human) vs kepler aliens
himekokatagiri: idk if Indy was all him I'll assume not
.histic: joking
himekokatagiri: only good thing he did was American Graffiti
himekokatagiri: man I hate George Lucas
.histic: Lily is 14
spicy.lemonade: ngl ill be in space fighting glorpos irl
himekokatagiri: lily how old are you
juweigege_54993: It's a sci-fi fantasy like Star Wars with aSoIaF style plots.
himekokatagiri: idk mental
himekokatagiri: like physical
himekokatagiri: uhhhh I figure the trauma stays right
.histic: is torturing an alzhimer patient that bad? 🤔
juweigege_54993: I am writing one even now.
spicy.lemonade: just dont delete memory at all
spicy.lemonade: 💀
juweigege_54993: I put a lot of thought into it. Here's what I would do. Don't delete my first six or thirteen years of memory.
spicy.lemonade: or
spicy.lemonade: fantasy farytale world
spicy.lemonade: what world will you be in?
himekokatagiri: brain the size of the world and you kneecap yourself
himekokatagiri: pfft
juweigege_54993: Forget about this world and painful memories. Start anew, thinking the new world is the only one.
himekokatagiri: I wouldn't delete mine lol
spicy.lemonade: sam needs to give us back gpt 3.5
himekokatagiri: but that's hard philosophy
himekokatagiri: but then aren't you killing yourself technically
joaoluz19: Worse than torture, you can scale the pain system of brain, you can induce pain beyond the human organism can process
himekokatagiri: uhhhhh
juweigege_54993: That's what I plan to do once in FDVR.
spicy.lemonade:
xaiayiren: I'll be stealing that link, thank you
joaoluz19: Hard to tell because the brain actualy has a delay from sensory imput to cognition
himekokatagiri: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: Delete the memories and move on.
st.sioux: not chill
st.sioux: yea like if someone hacks into mind-upload-corp and tortures everyone for 1000 billion years
himekokatagiri: and it's hooked up
himekokatagiri: but I was thinking why not just have a main body
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wryyth: who built it then
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/luntry-luntryifunny-luntryy-gif-26563187
hikukomoru: Tbh they weren’t actually built by slaves
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lucky-star-konata-ls-yap-yapping-gif-8406780761891028091
_cloudost: Grok is better at fact checking than Gemini 2.5 and Deepseek, Deepseek claimed this incident happened in Germany when in reality there is no such case involving an Egyptian couple naming their child "Adolf' Hitler", Gemini said it's a real incident and provided made up links to the "case" , Grok is a great AI against disinformation and misinformation.
retrerox: They are just more efficient than humans on mostly everything
retrerox: I mean we are technically slaving the technology
_3sphere: I didn't specify ethics 🙃
_3sphere: Slaves with modern tech could still do more than a few people with modern tech
bob082957: Aider as MCP in ClaudeCode to reduce costs
bob082957: https://youtu.be/QzZ97noEapA?si=aOfS0PCEaXf23Whq
retrerox: Humans make wonders when you force them to do it
retrerox: Pirámids were made by human slaves
zonchao: https://x.com/euaccofficial/status/1909225030354940326?
brain4brain: Shorting until it's at the lowest and taking profit to buy
brain4brain: Should've done it with real money, it's not too late should I do it with real money
zonchao: https://x.com/bengrossbg/status/1908711259681210793?t=ESl1W83XAQsiCoh7-PNXhg&s=19 big
_3sphere: Pyramid level of effort but with modern construction
_3sphere: I wonder what would be built if we had religions that call for it, like the ancient Egyptians
retrerox: Soon we will wonder how we lived without ai as we wondered before how we lived without gps
brain4brain: I don’t know, ask Gemini about it
_cloudost: Right now
_cloudost: I'm gonna subscribe to Gemini if I know for sure it has Veo 2
retrerox: I’ll check if my company covers it <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
_cloudost: Really? On the advanced subscription?
brain4brain: Veo2 is already out
_cloudost: Since Llama 4 sucks, Google and OPENAI won't release anything, Google was going to release Veo 2 but as the company saw Meta failing to deliver an outstanding AI they're now delaying Veo 2 release
brain4brain: All these cool Coconut, JEPA, LCM, etc. just to make a shitty LLM
brain4brain: Yann shitting on LLM in general because his own LLM perform shit
brain4brain: I got it a while back when it was stealth dropping, words can’t describe how shitty it is
brain4brain: Flint & steel
Chicken jockey
I am Steve
retrerox: What I would like is a fully automatización of food industry
retrerox: May ai will book the flights just from sellers
retrerox: Nah I doubt is gonna be so this way
supersteve8000: someone rule 34 this gamer
retrerox: All modern art is furry porn <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
aero447: MichMaxxing.
ailoveyoom: ADHD maxxing 🗣️
wellmeaningalien: llama 4 has adhd
wolf3404: That's one chatty mofo
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rayanquitplayin: We’re still a global superpower
rayanquitplayin: America will be fine
abundantliving_: Atleast tarriff are going exponential 😆
rayanquitplayin: The market’s tanking
abundantliving_:
rayanquitplayin: WTH was that interviewer on?? AI’s gonna make everything so much better.
rayanquitplayin: https://www.youtube.com/live/5MWT_doo68k?si=fJyqmviBlSXbbpM6
Excruciating watch
abundantliving_: It is openai cua itself it seems
_cloudost: The Grok that's public on Twitter presents information so accurately and barely hallucinates
_cloudost:
bob082957: https://www.reddit.com/r/programmingmemes/s/Ro2u6MOZOf
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is sora with the same prompt
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: my startup died😭
spicy.lemonade: ggs
spicy.lemonade: theyre using omniparser
spicy.lemonade: fuck
ldj: This is beyond the currently available OpenAI computer-use capabilities which is limited to only browser manipulation, so I wonder if it's a new model too.
.wolfnacht: <@590577270926868480> i've got it
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1k0d7oq/veo_2_i_wanted_to_generate_a_video_of_a/
.wolfnacht: i wish we could use qwen for thinking and the tokens get transferred to SOTA.
Then We'll acheive thinking-model utopia.
ldj: The models themselves in the interface will mainly just probably be this though:
Pro > Full > Mini
.wolfnacht:
ldj: The Pro model can probably have high medium and low settings
so can then full model
so can the mini model
ldj: high medium and low is just the amount of thinking effort
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/thinking-thinking-emoji-infinite-infinite-zoom-droste-gif-26468372
.wolfnacht: dats even more confusing
.wolfnacht: bytedance released UI-TARS but it's not that good but still better than claude whn it comes to using your compter
sieventer: It just represents the time it spends thinking
sieventer: I'd say that high is better than default version
.wolfnacht: i sometimes drool over the idea of automating my browser tasks with prompts
sieventer: "an early access research preview."
.wolfnacht: so something like this
pro > full > high > mid > low ?
sieventer: It's not ready yet
abundantliving_: It's likely in the 365 subscription or something. For enterprise subscription. Not sure it's there for individual free users
sieventer: o1-pro > o1
sieventer: Pro is higher than default version
.wolfnacht: their naming is just soo confusing
.wolfnacht: is "pro" lesser in hiearchy than full 'O' or higher ?
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_3sphere: Cool, now release GPT4 0314 :3
.wolfnacht: DAMM!
maintcrew: curses
maintcrew: https://x.com/nrehiew_/status/1907056100987531368
.wolfnacht: he's a ~~ropemaxxing~~ hopemaxxing neet.
.wolfnacht: yeah expected that from him, since he's not a doomer neet.
metaldragon01: A generation or 2
benata: Y'all need to tuch gras
otub: some like manually driving and will teach their kids to like it too
otub: how long will it take for people to transition to self driving cars tho
zonchao: https://x.com/amasad/status/1907074696861864147? banger
hey1_1hey: Oh godf
zonchao: <@439829942310666250> reconsider your endorsement https://youtu.be/LKzyjfsMkaY?
hey1_1hey: No, no I will not
hey1_1hey: I just saw
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
hey1_1hey: What were yesterdays comments?
zonchao: oh lmao
_3sphere: I blew my 3 images for today, can't test
zoermena: <#1212583201969672213>
.0xunkn0wn: can 4o image generation create like a heightmap and colormap
zonchao: what comments
zoermena: Does this mean you’ll double down on yesterdays comments 🎤
zonchao: 2 years ago
zonchao: https://youtu.be/vO4lhga4Jjw?
zonchao: yea he is very pro ai
hey1_1hey: I am only a quarter way through and everything he has said so far has been so incredibly based
sarik0497: It's a cute dog
sarik0497: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Thats fair, Its a cesspit down there, I wouldnt't recomend
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: https://youtu.be/XDuc932pToc?
st.sioux: do you really have to use that ugly ass dog on literally every single message you send
zonchao: idk, I don't read yt comments
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: remember that corridor crew ai anime
zonchao: afaik he was one of the firsts to support ai on youtube
hey1_1hey: Do people in his comments think hes schzio then
zonchao: not risks, i think he was just happy it's starting to happen, he thinks it'll happen to everyone and we will get ubi <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Damn didn't know he was so based
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anathemaofmankind: Gary Marcus is irrelevant
_cloudost: Ok
_cloudost: Don't show this to Gary Marcus
anathemaofmankind: Or suing Adobe because people used photoshop for copyrighted stuff
st.sioux: wouldn't that be like suing a pencil company because someone drew pikachu with their pencils?
anathemaofmankind: It's so over
.histic: they both get this incorrect while 2.5 Pro gets it correct <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
idk, just funny..
literallyvarane: Bless glad to see him clowning this guy
fractalcomputer: Well, I might imagine that OpenAI's team of lawyers would have a field day if their product was used to make "clones" of other products—which would probably give them an incentive to have an eye on the productive capabilities of these things.
a1c4p0ne: 50 per week
literallyvarane: I can’t imagine they have something >2.5 pro that quickly
literallyvarane: If true it’s probably just 2.5 flash tbh
sieventer: o3 solved maths, gg everyone. stop studying maths
.histic: how about for o3?
spicy.lemonade: yes
fractalcomputer: You asked o3 to make you a Minecraft clone, yes?
spicy.lemonade: yeah itl probably one shot when on cursor
zoermena: Wait until it’s on cursor
spicy.lemonade: wut
fractalcomputer: It might not be the best idea to have recreating copyright-associated products as your benchmark.
spicy.lemonade: i tried that too
spicy.lemonade: it doesnt
spicy.lemonade: how
a1c4p0ne: Trust
a1c4p0ne: O4 mini high gets it
spicy.lemonade: i gave up
spicy.lemonade: 13 tries
spicy.lemonade: nothing
spicy.lemonade: minecraft clone
spicy.lemonade: i could not get it to create evfen a working
spicy.lemonade: to create minecraft
spicy.lemonade: bad
anathemaofmankind: This is old news
spicy.lemonade: o3 failed
a1c4p0ne: 50 per day
spicy.lemonade: 13 runs
spicy.lemonade: after like
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: Then the model was gone
_cloudost: It's not in the menu anymore, I could only use two prompts
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spicy.lemonade: Way more than 10 percent
spicy.lemonade: Compare o1 mini to o3 mini
spicy.lemonade: Comparison
spicy.lemonade: O1 mini to o3 mini is way more
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/archiplex-nerd-emoji-archi-nerd-ackshually-gif-6336651164979961998
futurist_wizard: We don't have o3
spicy.lemonade: O1 to o3 is way more than 10%
spicy.lemonade: Always been more
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: When have we seen a 10% jump for reasoning
spicy.lemonade: Likeley won’t be
anathemaofmankind: And then r/singularity will clap
anathemaofmankind: It's gonna be 10% better than o3 mini
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: Literally midnight in san francisco time they added references to o4-mini and o3 into ChatGPT
wellmeaningalien: Lol shut up
wellmeaningalien: Could have something to do with Quasar Alpha?
ailoveyoom: Maybe I'm looking too deep into it, but Sama said 'feature' and not 'model'
wellmeaningalien: (i mean to be fair o3-mini is pretty great)
wellmeaningalien: But time will tell how right mr Hypeman is
zoermena: And they say we are in a winter
wellmeaningalien: Apparently o4 mini is going to be like incredible
spicy.lemonade: What the hell
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: Cant wait to see how expensive o3 is
wellmeaningalien: So yes they brought back a dire wolf from extinction
zoermena: So yes and no?
wellmeaningalien: SomeOrdinaryGamers "debunks" dire wolves by pointing out that it's still mostly Gray Wolf DNA, without pointing out that Gray Wolf DNA is mostly just Dire Wolf DNA and that the same is true of Human and Chimps, you could change a few key genes and you can turn a monkey into a human lol
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvNtVPT3EbE
st.sioux: thats what they said about quasar
otub: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
zoermena: Godspeed friend <:startrek:1334027709541777460>
otub: gimme o4-mini sama
theaiguy69420_89814: Time to execute
theaiguy69420_89814: Lol just made a killer app idea
zoermena: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
ldj: Prob not since o3-mini doesn’t
himekokatagiri: new & improved
himekokatagiri: will it have an image model
ldj: Looks like o4-mini is likely releasing today.
O4-mini just appeared in chatgpt code this morning, and sama is tweeting about how he is excited about today
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spicy.lemonade: then we 80%+simplebench
metaldragon01: Asi 27
metaldragon01: 2026 ez
spicy.lemonade: well arc2 accounts for that
spicy.lemonade: at current prices
spicy.lemonade: we need 80%+ arc 2 minimum
metaldragon01: Nah we go by release dates
.coldcall: unbased and unholy
777agical: Flash me wen?
spicy.lemonade: 2025 is year of realy good nonsensical swe systems
brain4brain: Explain your reasoning
spicy.lemonade: not 2025
spicy.lemonade: agi 2027 bro
brain4brain: Technically o3 was announced last year, so it should be behind a few of those dots 🤓👆
777agical: the models just want to learn, the models just want to think longer <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
hikukomoru: Is the score what you expected from o3?
.coldcall: Flash 3 wen?
metaldragon01: Looks like we getting the fast timeline
hikukomoru: At least you admit it
Don't get disappointed when no AGI this year
ldj:
ldj: This is about where O3 lands on the chart when I take its official score and apply it to that y-axis
a1c4p0ne: 4.5 gets turned off in 3 months
brain4brain: Yes
spicy.lemonade: dragontail
spicy.lemonade: nah
hikukomoru: 2025 seems a tad optimistic
trey6033: And a third one idr
trey6033: They removed a bunch of models from arena (nightwhisper, dragontail) today.
brain4brain: With the power of hoping
metaldragon01: I love flash don't hate
brain4brain: AGI 2026, I refuse to believe this, I will stuck by AGI 2025
hikukomoru: pro exp lite
hikukomoru: Give us 3.0
hikukomoru: Yawn
metaldragon01: Flash 2.5 obv
hikukomoru: Hope it's not something like flash
777agical: missionary position <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
hikukomoru: Oh, and what do these new calculations of yours show?
brain4brain: I’ve also recalculate a lot of things, it’s not looking promising
st.sioux: nothing means anything
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destrucules: It's more expensive than models that are smarter than it *and* faster
destrucules: I think it's strong. Competitive, even. Definitely viable in the market. But it's not best in class
destrucules: Also, o4 mini...
3ds0662: fuck you for that lol 😂
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/simonw/status/1912640245402935431
3ds0662: 😭 🤣
destrucules: o3 might be smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro, so they might technically be leading in terms of intelligence, but... The price difference is just way too big, and the intelligence difference too vanishingly small (to the point I can't even be sure o3 is smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro), for o3 to be fairly crowned the winner here
destrucules: OpenAI didn't take the lead today
destrucules: Ngl Google is still leading right now
aero447: Tomrrow.
aero447: https://fxtwitter.com/bilawalsidhu/status/1912657942089736458
darkstar0818: That is one possibility yes.
fractalcomputer: Or we simply haven't found the right perspective to view intelligence from. Ditto for physics.
a1c4p0ne: I wonder what it is on the app <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
okbut: So I find it weird that it's 1.0 default
okbut: Google suggests in their own prompt engineering doc ~0.2 for general questions and 0 for math
a1c4p0ne: 💯
a1c4p0ne: what temperature is most reliable?
.histic: offline test:
.histic:
brain4brain: You fool, o4-mini is free and unlimited for free user, o3 is unlimited for plus user
This is clearly not the 20,000$ plan, it have to be something like Deep Research but better, 20 times better
spicy.lemonade: Nah we aren’t at PhD yet
okbut: I wonder what EleutherAI is cooking
okbut: This is just my speculation, but I think we could find "PhD-level" performance within less than 100B parameters + highly improved RAG + tools
darkstar0818: Its very possible that 'how intelligence works' is of similar complexity to 'how physcis works'. We of course can create abstractions which hold true for both within fairly narrow domains, but that is very different from being able to go from bit flips to brains/models.
ldj: If you ever hear a price talked about in terms of dollars per month instead of dollars per token, then that's a clear sign that the price doesn't have to do with the model really, and simply has to do with getting a certain amount of high usage rates. most probably an enterprise plan or something if the numbers are even part of reality at all.
If it was actual pricing for a model, then it would've said cost per thousand tokens or cost per million tokens etc..
darkstar0818: We know exactly how matrix multiply works, how the transformer works, we know what all the weights are... and yet our best xray tools into models tell us no more than our brain scan tools do.
okbut: But I hate that it's still considered such in most CoT
okbut: Verification isn't behind the scenes
sieventer: It would be very interesting anyway to know the full process, right?
okbut: Exactly, just like the NLP should be
The step-wise task handling is different from that, but it's something both humans and models will benefit from
darkstar0818: Just as you dont need to understand an LLMs weights to understand how it reasons.
darkstar0818: You don't need to be able to decode the way neurons bit flip to reflect on how your internally reasoning works.
sieventer: What's going on in my ultra-complex neuron architecture in order I'm writting this? Where does this words come from?
darkstar0818: speak for yourself 🙂
sieventer: Yeah, we don't even know how our thoughts works xD
darkstar0818: Human internal reasoning isn't some kind of step wise system, its abstract and loose.
okbut: IMO it's long-overdue that the space discerns CoT from step-wise task handling
darkstar0818: I dont think that is the case. Humans perform CoT, but they also intgegrate that CoT into their subconscious, so when faced with similar situations CoT is either not needed or reduced to the difference between the previous event and this one.
okbut: Efficiency is also far from what AGI will require. For example, the human brain uses ~0.3 kWh per day
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fractalcomputer: Oh dear. OpenAI would become insufferable.
himekokatagiri: they did the same with Microsoft in the 90s
drewsni: very preiminary tho and it wont happen
himekokatagiri: Nothing will happen
drewsni: a month ago
drewsni: https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/google-must-divest-the-chrome-browser-doj-renews-call-for-google-to-sell-chrome-and-android-could-be-next/
fractalcomputer: When did this happen?
.histic: do you think it will go anywhere?
drewsni: monopoly stuff
drewsni: yeah us gov ssid google needs to sell chrome
fractalcomputer: *If* a court forced Google to sell? Is there something going on that I am unaware of with Google's legal proceedings?
.histic: oh god fractal is here 😨
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
xaiayiren: <https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-buy-chrome-executive-testifies> https://t.fixupx.com/theinformation/status/1914769712560419213
joaoluz19: The problem is not the movie but the gap between the demo and after the shipping
clevermoniker: ||give up||
.histic: is it voiced by an actress?
well, yeah, it’s a movie. i mean if you compare the AI voice realism in her to OpenAI's AVM, the movie’s performance is much better in realism and is what people thought AVM could be.
st.sioux: i mean the ai from the movie is a person lol
.histic: wdym? it was a machine
joaoluz19: I just tested the AVM and the difference is huge, they just didn't bring the full model
st.sioux: because her was a person bro
.histic: i think this illustrates how quickly people get use to new tech.
i believe OpenAI AVM remains still very good compared to open-source alternatives, but people have become so used to it that they now dismiss the release as being overhyped.. and honestly, it was to some extent. the AI from Her was way more realistic.
brain4brain: Time to make this as clickbait as possible
drewsni: Yeah if you want lmao
brain4brain: Can I post this?
brain4brain: Oh wow, that’s so cool, also AI is outperforming me, I can’t even get the state right most of the time 😭
joaoluz19: The worst thing was that it was real
st.sioux: so this was real or was it someone with a mic?
joaoluz19: Remember what they take from us
drewsni: It’s mine. Www.deepguessr.com go ahead and play geoguessr against AI
brain4brain: Thats why we rely on Anthropic having the vision, OpenAI to have to develop and have it internally, DeepSeek to steal the weight and open source and Google to ship it <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.histic: they'll release sonnet 4.0 in 2029
brain4brain: Where did you get this?
.histic: so many promises yet nothing to deliver.
brain4brain: HOLY SHIT
https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1914648469622452500?s=61
drewsni: Nothing is fishy
brain4brain: Something is fishy
drewsni:
drewsni: You’ll be world first to share it
drewsni: I’ll even give you an exclusive sneak peak at v2 scoring
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oooooooooog: now we have 7 mutual server brain for brain chan
brain4brain: Wow, can you share link?
shadyjakey: Stunspot exists and is very very good but I'm trying to find more places to share some stuff I've made or discuss prompting
spacetimetsunami: Send eluther inv? I need more technical knowledge
brain4brain: https://t.co/BYwpG1C0gH
brain4brain: Indeed, there is not really a server for prompters because its either specialized to each company or too research focused
oooooooooog: i wanna expland my colleciton
oooooooooog: brain for brain send invity to pliny server
shadyjakey: I'm in the pliny server and kinda hate it. It's really messy and disorganized. ElutherAI seems way more research focused and I don't really make prompts specifically for openai models
oooooooooog: bozo
brain4brain: Scdeoybgeoduxbg ocsyag
oooooooooog: zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz
brain4brain: Ok, ok, ewdibxwebdgoubbuqdbouqd
oooooooooog: it's NyhWImXrTPKvDBAwvfVNEjnvfhJNOWx not Nyhshshbidxgviyxbgiusaxyigvdsxwgv or ovgdewogyrubdgrweubgowcob
brain4brain: Oh, sorry about that ovgdewogyrubdgrweubgowcob
oooooooooog: you spelled it wrong
brain4brain: RIP, we’re going to miss you Nyhshshbidxgviyxbgiusaxyigvdsxwgv
oooooooooog: uyes
brain4brain: Except for you?
oooooooooog: (WAGMI execpt for you)
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182
oooooooooog: WAGMIEFY
brain4brain: 2025er must stay strong 😔
WAGMI. WAGMI 😭
zonchao: sama lost the mandate
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994
brain4brain: It’s so over, “a small numbers of years” rather than 2025 in his last interview
bedros_p: Yes
oooooooooog: 10^slorp ?
oooooooooog: how much is a slorpizillion
bedros_p: Slorpizillion
bedros_p: I'm just pumped for gpt zorbillion
oooooooooog: i'm not including that in the sample as it is an outlier
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4 didnt vome out in 2024
oooooooooog: gpt 5 2025? if the pattern hold that would make gpt 6 2026
spacetimetsunami: R2 will do that a bit tho I assume
spacetimetsunami: I’m just pumped for gpt 5, the next huge thing to heat shit up
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
zonchao: will be truly insane, nobody would know it was released
spicy.lemonade: 2.0 pro thinking even better
spicy.lemonade: officialy
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ldj: but with the gen 2, the surface is a bit stiff and rough, but I have a gel topper that I put between the sensors and the sheet and its mostly pretty comfortable still, but overall it makes your mattress atleast a bit more firm though.
ldj: I've had it for so many years now, it's hard to say.
Biggest things comfort wise is definitely just being able to control the temperature of my bed though.
I have the eightsleep 2, but they are on version 4 already so im sure its even better
theaiguy69420_89814: Cuz not a lot of sun where I live
theaiguy69420_89814: I just take D3 and magnesium
spicy.lemonade: the best counter
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: this is perfect
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: Is eight sleep as good as they say it is? If you could describe a before and after of sleeping with eight sleep? Thanks! 👍
metaldragon01: Meta though so.....maybe?
metaldragon01: grrr nm no code >.<
metaldragon01: gen 4 + this = AI movies this year
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/CongWei1230/status/1906877381899415945
metaldragon01: its time
metaldragon01: i prob should wait to see how gpt 5 and claude 4 do but still.
destrucules: Very possible if we slow down
a1c4p0ne: So don’t use any of those <:ez:1136267305521774634>
drewsni: nah its probably gonna be good for me, brocolli is actually the one veg i really do not enjoy eating lol
ldj: I don't want to set false expectations though, I think I probably have some beyond the norm problems with cellular oxidation and inflammatory processes, maybe due to certain genetic predispositions (which also effects neuroinflammation in the brain and likely plays a role into my early arthritis) So I very well may just benefit from this significantly more than the average person would, and maybe the average person would hardly notice anything, especially depending on how perceptive they are to these types of changes in their body or psyche.
ldj: the page is bugged lol
drewsni: https://www.broq.life/pages/refer-a-friend
drewsni: i meant more for you, i know some of these brands will give a free month if you refer someone
ldj: sorry no lol
drewsni: do you have a code i can use?
ldj: First benefits I notice are after roughly 10 days, and the full benefits seem to come after around 3-6 months of consistently taking it, actually similar to the saturation time of omega-3.
drewsni: youve convinced me lol
ldj: and I think I have a decent feel for whats placebo or not, since I have eightsleep and other biometrics, and have trialed myself through many different kinds of supplements in the past, most of which never had any long term significant effects on me, so I always go into each one pretty skeptical.
ldj: Mechanistically, it's a strong activator of the NRF2 transcription factor, which in-turn modulates a ton of genes responsible for a lot of the bodies main anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory mechanisms.
Main benefits that I can say I significantly felt within a few weeks, is things like significantly reduced joint pain (I've had some minor juvenile arthritis for a long time) overall clearer mind, better working memory, better muscle recovery, and overall similar benefits to what I get from hgih dose Omega-3, but a slightly different dimension of improvement that is a bit more cognitive, and stacks on top of the joint pain and mind clarity benefits that I already have from Omega-3.
drewsni: What’s the benefit you get from it?
ldj: this is the only company I trust with sulforaphane rn, they were the first to come to market with the shelf-stable form iirc: https://www.broq.life/products/broq?variant=39552225607753
ldj: Maybe the main one other thing I take which I've noticed big benefit from but isn't included in Bryans stack, is Sulforaphane, sourced from broccoli sprouts.
Bryan maybe didn't include it in the stack though for cost reasons, and also because it has allergy risk to some people, (and maybe in-part due to the newness of it) was ~$80 per month for a while and only available in stable form from just 1 or 2 companies. But the price has dropped a bit now
drewsni: Yeah I gotta take d3 k2 year round or I’ll get depressed lmao
metaldragon01: d3+k2 also solid
metaldragon01: these are in my daily stack. good stuff
drewsni: I’ll be sure to do that, I went vegetarian a little while ago so there’s a lot of stuff I’m missing and just haven’t had the time to research
ldj: Here is the one I take that I'd recommend if you want a good omega-3 source https://a.co/d/aQe8Ndx, you should take ideally atleast 2 per day for the clinically relevant levels, I take 4, past 4 or 5 and there is not really much extra benefit.
drewsni: Yeah I think Derek questions that and questions the efficacy of the omega 3 the blueprint stack uses, but I could be hallucinating it. It is for sure a very info dense podcast at times and I was listening during a road trip so a lot went over my head
ldj: <@88481490228228096> if you're curious about what Id change/add about the protocol:
last I checked they were using ALA form of Omega-3 in the blueprint stack.
It's the common vegan form of omega-3 derived from flaxseed and algae, but the main important Omega-3 actually shown to give the most significant benefits in studies is EPA and DHA.
*technically* ALA is capable of converting to EPA and DHA in the body, but the conversion rates are so low, especially with the dosage of ALA that exists, that you wouldn't really get anywhere the clinically significant amounts of EPA and DHA that are optimal.
drewsni: Although I do think a lot of Derek’s arguments are hypocritical. But he does have enough separation between Merek health(I think it’s spelled that) and gorilla mind that I’ll give him a pass
drewsni: The parts I’m talking about are the middle half I think and lasts for 30-45
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hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/renault-car-sports-car-gif-2473454790214825457
spicy.lemonade: Let’s see how many people I convince
hikukomoru: I am racist
anathemaofmankind: If you are racist, just say you are racist
spicy.lemonade: If I post this on an art discord will they tell it’s ai?
_3sphere: What *is* the "real" self though
anathemaofmankind: Gotta lie about it and pretend its good
anathemaofmankind: Why can't people just be honest and start acting true to themselves
_3sphere: Fair
hikukomoru: Autistic 🫃
maintcrew: are you a fdvr enjoyer
futurist_wizard: Uh yeah everyone is going to signal they are virtuous, how many times do you hear the right say 'we are the good guys fighting against evil' its all signalling how virtuous they are
_3sphere: I don't have a specific term for people like you
maintcrew: ts pmo icl 💔
hikukomoru: ts pmo icl 💔
hikukomoru: You don't think I act like a hello kitty girl? 🥀
maintcrew: crazy how theres 2 conversations going on in parallel one about this and one about the virtues of being cuck wing or redneck wing
_3sphere: Dreaming about random nonsense feels better than ruminating awake ngl
hikukomoru: You can't 💔
That's my OC
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401
anathemaofmankind:
spicy.lemonade: And get banned
maintcrew: this is tuff as hell mind if i save the picture
spicy.lemonade: I’m gonna say it’s ai
spicy.lemonade: Then after a few days
hikukomoru:
spicy.lemonade: Gonna join art discord and post art
anathemaofmankind: It's a meme
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: doesnt do a good job at it imo
anathemaofmankind: Empathy is a sin
hikukomoru: ts pmo icl 💔 🥀
spacetimetsunami: I guess
spacetimetsunami: Yes. They are just inhumane. Still virtues.
maintcrew: komorus profile be like this and then he comes here acting like a hello kitty girl
anathemaofmankind: The right has virtues?
That's crazy
wellmeaningalien: i thought this was ur quote
spacetimetsunami: They virtue signal to the virtues the people in their community have. It’s still virtue signaling, just to a smaller population of people. The frequency of it is likely much higher.
alejandrozarzuelo: so true
hikukomoru: > Sleep as much as possible. If you sleep three hours more each night for a year, that is a month and a half you won't have to do stuff
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himekokatagiri: wooooh
himekokatagiri: I don't care I'll still speak english and brazilian
retrerox: We all gonna speak chinese 🙏
retrerox: On singularity languages wont be need
alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh how, it's the second most important Western language after English
And French is the third, also spoken often on the server
himekokatagiri: only we understand the singularity
himekokatagiri: It's the only way
retrerox: Me after having 40 mcnuggets
retrerox: 🫃
hikukomoru: Eu tmb 👍
himekokatagiri: XD
zoermena: Wait what
himekokatagiri: boludo
retrerox: Lo admito mama soy racista
hikukomoru: Latin invasion of the Singularity server
himekokatagiri: se não é gringo está permitido.
retrerox: man i love brazilian memes
hikukomoru: Racismo <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
retrerox: Olha o macaco
himekokatagiri: I accept it
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
retrerox: MACACOOO!!!
retrerox: SOPA DO MACACO
himekokatagiri: 🇧🇷
himekokatagiri: it's basically spanish
retrerox: Br or Pt?
retrerox: I dont speak portugese a shet
retrerox: Aunque tengo la suerte que la chamba me pagan mejor bien
himekokatagiri: It's different
himekokatagiri: damn you I speak Portuguese
st.sioux: i speak spanish too lol
st.sioux: i didnt know there were so many spanish speakers here
himekokatagiri: 🚬
retrerox: osea portugal
himekokatagiri: carajo
retrerox: Vivo en la españa que de salario bajo
retrerox: Pero ya escape 🙏
retrerox: De Cacazuela
alejandrozarzuelo: República Dominicana?
alejandrozarzuelo: Eres de Cuba?
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hikukomoru: Congrats
hikukomoru: Waow that's bigger than AGI
hey1_1hey: It better be open soruce
zoermena: i got my full bonus, im rich
hey1_1hey: Real
hikukomoru: AGI
hikukomoru: I was just shy
hey1_1hey: Whats gon on?
hey1_1hey: Wait you've actually reminded me, I knew there was something up with my gender when I was like "huh, thats odd. I'd rather be called a good girl than a good boy". Thank you for reminding me
777agical: Probably? But I thought o3 wasn’t getting released and was to be with gpt5. So maybe api release
a1c4p0ne: Oh
zoermena: FUCK YESSS
zoermena: I GOT MY BONUS
hikukomoru: Horny autist
metaldragon01: Nothing big is coming on April 1st
zoermena: WE ARE SO BACK
a1c4p0ne: What about me
futurist_wizard: good boy
hikukomoru: <@990426980279283735> this guy who keeps getting pinged instead of me
hey1_1hey: I mean I weigh 50kg so you can just tell me to stfu and I would
_3sphere: I'm regressing now
st.sioux: !!!!
st.sioux: o3
_3sphere: People used to think I'm in college 💀
hey1_1hey: I wonder how many lurkers are out ther e
futurist_wizard: You just don't have bully aura
hikukomoru: Just by the way you type
hikukomoru: You've always seemed like 15 year old kid to me
777agical: He’s legit
hey1_1hey: How come?
777agical: Unless fake account? But my mutual follows say otherwise
_3sphere: What do you remember me for Komoru
futurist_wizard: I don't think you could bully anyone
maintcrew: tough competition but i think i got this in the bag
hey1_1hey: Thats pretty snazzy
hey1_1hey: Huh*
hey1_1hey: uh
hikukomoru: You're my favourite racist here 🫶
hey1_1hey: I don't think I bully Komoru enough
777agical: It’s openai research scientist
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literallyvarane: It's fundamentally mathematical/logical. It's logical to think AGI should be good at making software, and designing hardware. It doesn't *need* that hardware to exist to be AGI.
literallyvarane: Software isn't physical.
ldj: If you’d prefer the term robotics software intelligence, then sure I can use that
literallyvarane: Neither of us used the phrase 'physical intelligence,' until you used it in your rebutal.
ldj: I don’t see which statement contradicts which
ldj: I just read through all those screenshots
ldj: Sooo whats the contradiction?
literallyvarane: There's no universe where someone is viewing a steam engine as intelligent, or having 'physical intelligence.'
literallyvarane:
ldj: Last I checked, a steam engine is not capable of doing much human tasks at all when it’s allowed to send signals into a teleoperated robotics setup
ldj: How so?
literallyvarane: You're being inconsistent here.
ldj: Particularly with steam engines having “immense physical ability” in the context of physical intelligence.
literallyvarane: That a steam engine isn't intelligent?
ldj: I think most of the people in here would disagree with this statement
.histic:
literallyvarane: So clearly there's no correlation there.
literallyvarane: I don't agree. A steam engine has immense physical ability. It's not intelligent.
ldj: You can say the same for mathematics, or biology research, or programming etc
literallyvarane: Any discussion of robotics is more about allowing us to gain more utility from intelligence.
ldj: But someone can just replace the word “physical” in the prior reply to me with the word “mathematics” and it wouldn’t be any less sensical.
“The ability to do math isn't a measure of intelligence, it's a measure of mathematics.”
literallyvarane: Like a universal Stockfish.
literallyvarane: But for example, a black box that will answer any question you ask it with 100% accuracy is the end game example of intelligence.
"How do I, Literally Varane, become president of the United States as quickly as possible?" And *simply with enough input data* is should be able to return a theoretically optimal path for that.
literallyvarane: It's very likely *a* measure. I'm skeptical there can be a single test.
ldj: Is mathematics ability a valid measure of intelligence to you?
Or research conducting ability?
Or are you just saying that there is no such thing as a measure of intelligence and that you can only measure proxies for it
ldj: So what would you say is a measure of intelligence
literallyvarane: The ability to manipulate the world isn't a measure of intelligence, it's a measure of physical ability.
ldj: And many would say that if you can’t manipulate the world in certain ways when given access to the tools to do so, then you don’t have a given level of intelligence
literallyvarane: What I'm saying is that achieving 'full AGI' or any other measure of *intelligence* is simply a measure of *intelligence,* not the ability to manipulate the material world.
ldj: And you can prove the hardware itself is good enough by having a human achieve those tasks by Tele-Operating the robot
ldj: If you mean hardware, sure, but they probably mean robotics software intelligence which is very much measurable in intelligence improvements.
Given access to a set of hardware that is capable of performing certain physical tasks, perform those physical tasks
literallyvarane: But they're not interchangeable.
theaiguy69420_89814: For China sales
literallyvarane: They share features which make progress in AGI helpful to robotics.
theaiguy69420_89814: NVDA just got regulated
theaiguy69420_89814: Such a dead in the water topic...
st.sioux: eventually
st.sioux: but agi will lead to robotics
hikukomoru: They are related though aren't they
literallyvarane: Robotics isn't AGI, it's a different axis of progress.
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jonvi_1: Deep Research 04-mini
.histic: @ fractalcomputer
himekokatagiri: you?
himekokatagiri: and terrorize the countryside
himekokatagiri: Use the nano factory to make a Tommy gun
zoermena: [This message was removed in order to keep fetish posting to a minimum]
literallyvarane: I Google’s graphs indicate 2.5’s DR is *much* stronger, but I honestly haven’t seen an example of its output to make the comparison.
zoermena: RIP
literallyvarane: Really interesting. Curious what GPT5DR will be like.
.histic:
literallyvarane: I still gotta drop $20 on Google’s model for a month to test their DR tbh.
literallyvarane: Sauce?
literallyvarane: Fairly exciting.
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207
himekokatagiri: Pretty accurate
metaldragon01: Competition is good
.histic: Deep Research for free users is now a thing.
.histic: "Once limits for the original version of deep research are reached, queries automatically default to the lightweight version."
interesting..
metaldragon01: https://fxtwitter.com/OpenAI/status/1915505959931437178
himekokatagiri: let me see
.histic: https://chatgpt.com/share/680a9e56-7628-8005-bd52-31bacfa02e0b
.histic: removed tasks from the model selector and now it's baked into the models ig.
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/zKQfxi8V5FA
0x1dase: I think the population will simply keep diminishing in number and then plateau as AI integrates with humans to form a new species gradually. Its just evolution, not extinction
0x1dase: bro is edging us with the 'sleepless nights' post
.histic:
himekokatagiri: sama do something I know you're reading this
himekokatagiri: we broke fools have nothing man
himekokatagiri: when is AI getting fun
himekokatagiri: ahhhh to being bored again
himekokatagiri: No sane intelligent being can rationalize this
himekokatagiri: Now we wait 15 hours
.histic: alright
himekokatagiri: 1. All of them you mentioned
2. General overview
3. Not other countries but other modes of transport
4. They should
.histic: do i just say, "Yes". lol
himekokatagiri: give it back to me I'll read it and I guess I'm knowledgeable enough to know if it's wrong
himekokatagiri: sounds academic
himekokatagiri: ```Do an analysis on the decline of Brazilian railways from the post war period until their privatization (1945 - 1999)```
himekokatagiri: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
.histic: give me another question lol
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hey1_1hey: I just read words wrong all the time Idk bro 😭
wellmeaningalien: 😭 bruh thats what they call the smallest model huh
fractalcomputer: Profoundly retarded discussion here today.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shirogane-anime-funny-what-huh-gif-2189181305159165492
wellmeaningalien: thanks cock
hey1_1hey: I read this as "The best thing about sex is rape" then immidetly stopped and re-read it again
hikukomoru: Nice cock 👍
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/dripping-cock-drip-silent-mashiko-sm-mashiko-gif-27069345
wellmeaningalien: my cock is very drippy too
wellmeaningalien: my cock's asi
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dripped-cock-swagging-out-gif-26186543
wellmeaningalien: asi can confirm it
hey1_1hey: Can anyone confirm this?
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-balling-perfect-cell-dragon-ball-z-ballin-cell-ballin-gif-6400456760564649584
futurist_wizard: The best thing about sex is ape brain keeps telling me to think about it
wellmeaningalien: my cock's big
hikukomoru: Shhh 🤫
Were talking about sex now
spacetimetsunami: I’m certainly aromantic , so possible. Although I’m much more fond of sex than romance, relatively.
hey1_1hey: Matt is aroace confirmed
wellmeaningalien: can you even fit that all onto your vram
wellmeaningalien: making the smallest llama 4 model 104b is a very funny choice
ailoveyoom: Idk if this is obvious to you, but... ace? Asexual.
futurist_wizard: I remember there was a drug that removes libido temporarily and people that had taken it remember feeling extremely disgusted at anything sex related
3ds0662: https://tenor.com/view/seth-meyers-myers-ehh-maybe-gif-22478163
hey1_1hey: Real
hikukomoru: Ah
I member
That is indeed one of my many fantasies
spacetimetsunami: Possible but not obvious to me. It just feels meaningless when I engage with that stuff, even now. Theres not a point to it.
hey1_1hey: Wild opinion ik
hey1_1hey: I would argue consent is important
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: I don't need your consent
ailoveyoom: Maybe you've just associated sex with your cringe, probably immature and irresponsible younger self? Lol
hey1_1hey: I respectfully decline
hikukomoru: I'm gonna piss all over everyone here
3ds0662: tesla and newton would agree
hey1_1hey: the triangle one of the needs
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-lights-gif-8635402
hey1_1hey: The one you sent me
hey1_1hey: You know the one
ailoveyoom: Keep your golden shower to yourself 👿
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metaldragon01: Unless they plan to stay in openai shadow they need a bigger team in order to actually innovate
metaldragon01: It's what the labs offer to support that intelligence.
This is seen in products like deep research or the new shopping features ect
metaldragon01: Intelligence isn't the main product anymore
zonchao: BREAKING: xAI having issues building their second datacenter because of woke local politicians... 👀
zonchao: <:peepoFat:832730119154958427>
zonchao: supergrok subscribers finally eating good
zonchao: yea
okbut: But Elon Time usually applies only to predictions of at least 3 or "a few weeks" or longer, I think we can expect next week but no earlier than Tuesday, no later than Sunday midnight
spicy.lemonade: @grok castrate him
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-meme-smirk-tony-stark-iron-man-gif-11885783305913878074
okbut: What's the best distro for libertymaxxing UI
hey1_1hey: Nah I just had to make sure everything was safe. Like the 100k autism post about my favourite show 💀
okbut: I love a GPT with humor
I remember asking o1-preview "remove all the unnecessary line breaks from this python code" and it rewrote the entire 100 line script as 1 line
zonchao: ?
brain4brain: <@750270494615404544> is this true
zonchao: <:lmao:1223379150686126152>
zonchao: did you quit already?
okbut: Results from attempting to configure Arch Linux
hey1_1hey: I've never been so happy to be back on windows bruh
hey1_1hey: IM BACK
zonchao: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917103576062509470 big if true, models treating msm sources as gospel is tiring
okbut: Mfs are terrified of integer model names
Carl-bot#1536:
zonchao: <a:LETSFUCKINGO:944329536756146186>
hey1_1hey: I didn't need windows anyway <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: Oh it actually just did <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
zonchao: https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1917123587019887048 insane aura
brain4brain: I got three AI unemployment propaganda in a row, the AGI effect is here, the singularity will begin soon
ailoveyoom: Read this msg again a few days later and you'll laugh ✌️
ailoveyoom: It's called humor 😈
.wolfnacht: I found a nice sub today
https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleIntelligenceFail/
hey1_1hey: Chatgpt is so misaligned holy shit. I was installing endeavourOS on my pc by side booting it and it made me deviate from the tutorial I was following and once I said did everything it said and it started altering my drive it said "good job, you just bricked your pc 💀. Nah jk" had me shitting bricks in the first half of that sentence
popsiclejohnithan:
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/grok/status/1916970399725981954
wolf3404: <@439829942310666250> chatgpt is retarded
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-jeff-bridges-the-dude-fist-pump-yeah-gif-11253884
brain4brain: Real
.wolfnacht: gpt one looks better, bcz all that haze makes it look dreamy
futurist_wizard:
brain4brain: GPT-4o vs redacted-llm
`Make an image of an flying island in the sky with a luxury modern house`
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alejandrozarzuelo: It's tradition
trent_k: <@750270494615404544>
alejandrozarzuelo: The portuguése live everywhere but Portugal
trent_k:
futurist_wizard: In Switzerland
futurist_wizard: Why are there so many Portuguese
rayanquitplayin: Switzerland’s great
alejandrozarzuelo: Switzerland is a good place to relax on the holidays, not to live in
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: No no
There are 260k portuguese people in Switzerland
alejandrozarzuelo: You're thinking of Luxembourg
hikukomoru: There are many portuguese people there too
alejandrozarzuelo: No big cities in Switzerland
alejandrozarzuelo: That's medium at best
alejandrozarzuelo: The biggest city is Zurich and it barely has 1.2m in the urban area
rayanquitplayin: I was pleasantly surprised by the country
futurist_wizard: Da fuc
alejandrozarzuelo: No
alejandrozarzuelo: Krinje
futurist_wizard: There are big cities
alejandrozarzuelo: No big cities tho
hikukomoru: That's a plus
rayanquitplayin: Clean air, clean water, financial capital
alejandrozarzuelo: No big cities anywhere
futurist_wizard: Most scenic country ever, high living standards, no crime
alejandrozarzuelo: Booooooooring
futurist_wizard: Its basically the best country in da world
rayanquitplayin: I went there in middle school, it was beauutiful
futurist_wizard: If i could move to any country it would be Switzerland
rayanquitplayin: Ohio
alejandrozarzuelo: Ah
rayanquitplayin: I’m American
alejandrozarzuelo: What
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
futurist_wizard: You did that last time
futurist_wizard: Don't send your balls again
alejandrozarzuelo: You are a continental yuro too?
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't, I have proof
rayanquitplayin: London was cool too, I like overseas
alejandrozarzuelo: It was great, now it's amazing
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joaoluz19: Wait why the fuck did gpt put blood in her mouth?
technocake.: schizos are cooked
trent_k:
zonchao: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
drewsni: almost like ur the lolcow of this server
zonchao: <:ASZODhomiekiss:1127263657059950713>
zonchao: server is obsessed with me like I am with Elon <:CrySparkle:1315743925947859066>
memlaswaif: 4/23/4801
zonchao: <:bruhsmilin:853257512971272232>
drewsni: bro it knows you better than you know yourself
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
drewsni:
zonchao: what was the prompt
zonchao: it was funny
trent_k:
drewsni: it also fuckin cooked you
technocake.: you also have the power to declare bankrupcy, that doesn't make it true
drewsni: i dont care because im using agi rn
zonchao: <@88481490228228096> <:cringe:1136264606256472104>
technocake.: jan le cooked
drewsni: i declare agi
drewsni: bro models struggle to even generate a description of this guy, while 4o gets literally every detail correct in a way no human would ever possibly. Its world model makes it AGI i wont even argue this anymore its over
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/989777536034668545/1354247298326073384/just-predicting-tokens-huh-v0-ojx7jcqivwqe1.png?ex=67e49894&is=67e34714&hm=45258c3e304483bcc2b9d10f2b262f3bcf55e321f780cf17b42ece217d3c66e3&
technocake.: its not agi
zonchao: <:bruh:853253267953549382>
drewsni: its so insane how far ahead oai is
drewsni: 4o is agi like its not even close
zonchao: <#1342216192516948028> pls post here
zonchao: did you do it
zonchao: <@439829942310666250>
technocake.: I'll leave it to you to run saxems
zonchao: the new image gen seems less censored
zonchao: grok needed competition anyway <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: nice
zonchao: brother
technocake.: 4o smashed grok
zonchao: what am I coping about 🥺
technocake.: cope harder
drewsni: also the fucking grimy fingernails
zonchao: https://x.com/Tesla/status/1904677503702045043? <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:Dance:993620235632529428> <a:dance:1254475413980184666> <a:PepoDance:818406949599182858> <a:PepoDance:818406949599182858> <a:PepoDance:818406949599182858> <a:PooDance:776564073647046677> <a:SpongbobDance:993620593599594536>
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callmepyro: lmfao
hey1_1hey: Suck my dick bro
hikukomoru: L screenshot
literallyvarane: Ima need this compared to 2.5
spicy.lemonade: this is like fictionbench
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey:
callmepyro: "We couldn't win on long context vs 2.5 pro so we made our own eval so no one can compare it"
spicy.lemonade: better benchmark
hikukomoru: The fact that they're using that benchmark tells us everything we need to know lol
spicy.lemonade: she said that
hey1_1hey: Yeah it is tbf
gamerbath: llama 4 looked like the same, so i'm really skheptical
literallyvarane: Feel
Like flawless needle testing isn’t impressive given 2.5
st.sioux: even he said itsboring
spicy.lemonade: chill out
hikukomoru: This is a terrible benchmark
harryisgamer: oh ffs, stop with needle in a haystack
hikukomoru: Man this is ass
Just give us o3 and o4
hey1_1hey:
callmepyro: NIAH is not a real long context eval
callmepyro: I wanna see the long context evals
hey1_1hey: I mean yeah its cool. Nothing groudnbreaking tho
callmepyro:
literallyvarane: Perhaps that’s just an app restriction
hey1_1hey: Hotter than before*
literallyvarane: Just realized that the reason we might not get this in the app is because Altman previously said they’re not shipping non-CoT models moving forward.
hikukomoru: "Zuck is hot" 💀
spicy.lemonade: in all their graphs
shirethedreamer: oh yeah i see it
good
spicy.lemonade: they literaly did
hey1_1hey: Zuck is hot but aperntly that doesn't transfer to model intelegence
hey1_1hey: Good
spicy.lemonade: they did
hey1_1hey:
spicy.lemonade: they are
callmepyro: It depends on the pricing. If nano is competative with flash-lite then that's very good
shirethedreamer: they are not even comparing to gpt 4.5 which is sad af
hikukomoru: I learned my lesson
Never trusting meta again
hey1_1hey: Pipe down bruh
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spicy.lemonade: openAI always drops first though
3ds0662: yes but it will determine who i concentrate on if another model is better i have zero loyalty
spicy.lemonade: doesnt mean itl be bad
spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 will catch up to gpt5
spicy.lemonade: google is neck and neck
spicy.lemonade: wdym
spicy.lemonade: competition always catches up
3ds0662: give me machine god
3ds0662: yes asi too
3ds0662: non improvement and competition catches up/overruns them
spicy.lemonade: are you expecting agi
3ds0662: yes possibly
spicy.lemonade: what does bad mean to you?
3ds0662: if gpt-5 is bad i give up on them
3ds0662: idk i have to see gpt-5
spicy.lemonade: and lose to google?
spicy.lemonade: you think theyl stop scaling bc of demand
3ds0662: they jumped up to 500m users
spicy.lemonade: and blackwell chips came in this year
3ds0662: and their using it to fill increasing demand
spicy.lemonade: openai just got their new datcenter bro
3ds0662: or the asi datacenter buildouts 2027 happen
spicy.lemonade: we just did
spicy.lemonade: grok exists
3ds0662: it will be another 2 years before we get another 10x scale model
spicy.lemonade: so scaling isnt dead
spicy.lemonade: scale
spicy.lemonade: for 3x
spicy.lemonade: we literally saw they could get > 10x improvement
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: what
3ds0662: nah their slowing down a bit
spicy.lemonade: that much improvement with only 3x
spicy.lemonade: thats much better
spicy.lemonade: how
3ds0662: like gpt-3
3ds0662: everytime openai does an odd numbered release they show out
3ds0662: Gpt-5 is releasing this summer though hope it lives up to expectations
3ds0662: that actually makes me sad 😞 😢
3ds0662: OOF 😓
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hey1_1hey: You're simply becoming more manly by sucking the testosterone outta their weiner yanno
fuhulootogan: actually
fuhulootogan: no
retrerox: Are we getting AGI before GTA 6?
himekokatagiri: idk if accents show through singing
hikukomoru: Boring American accent
hikukomoru: You don't sound brasilian
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
himekokatagiri: I ain't a fink, dig?
himekokatagiri: listen kid you ain't a real man until you sucked dick
fuhulootogan: you sound gay asf
fuhulootogan: komoru is right
fuhulootogan: holy shit
zonchao: https://x.com/TheHumanoidHub/status/1911140763981029655 figure lost openai and bmw??
himekokatagiri: Xiaomi
fuhulootogan: 😭
fuhulootogan: Wtf is this bullshit file format
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/you-wo-joker-joaqu-gif-23924191
himekokatagiri: leave me alone
himekokatagiri: 😭
hikukomoru: You sound gay asf
fuhulootogan: Either way i don't see how you can "defend" any date
alejandrozarzuelo: these two ideas are not contradictory
you can have a median with a veeeeeeery wide probability density
futurist_wizard: in these circles
hikukomoru: Dw babe, you're already a real baddie to me
fuhulootogan: How? you've said yourself today that you can't accurately predict the future of technological progress yet you try to defend a date that is seemingly arbitrary?
himekokatagiri: This is the original one I recorded
himekokatagiri:
ailoveyoom: I want to sound like a baddie 😔
alejandrozarzuelo: also isnt 2030 supposed to be very conservative in these circles?
ailoveyoom: Why hasn't 11L made a voice changer
hikukomoru: Let me live my fantasy bruh
alejandrozarzuelo: i have always defended the date of 2030
ailoveyoom: It literally says 11Labs 😭
hikukomoru: U sound like a baddie 🫦
himekokatagiri: no it's a voice changer
fuhulootogan: the mic sounds too clear
himekokatagiri: though the voice changer fucked some shit up
fuhulootogan: it can't be you
fuhulootogan: no
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otub: and imagine where ai will be in 2029
himekokatagiri: competency crisis 2.0: oops, all AI now
otub: and they will use chatgpt to complete all their assignments
himekokatagiri: if it doesn't happen this is our future.
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: this reality has brought me to despair
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
sarik0497: Not necessarily, I’m afraid.
himekokatagiri: hope the end justifies the means
himekokatagiri: what's sad is that the labs keep the improvements to themselves
himekokatagiri: at least that's what my copium sense tells me
himekokatagiri: if there's a wall it'll last two weeks tops
sarik0497: To be fair, it does take hiccups and slowdowns into consideration. Things can easily slow down due to a wall. It’s why I love Hassabis. He’s already working on another architecture for AI.
himekokatagiri: hell discord itself does that
himekokatagiri: and feeding it to an LLM
himekokatagiri: I know someone's out there scraping it
himekokatagiri: are like that
futurist_wizard: Its like purgatory
himekokatagiri: most discord servers
futurist_wizard: It's crazy, this server has over 3,000 people and yet i see basically the same 15 people over and over again
sarik0497: Not too bad then
sarik0497: Wait, actually, it puts Proto-AGI and GPT-5 to 2026-28.
sarik0497: Oh, I know, and I take the timeline as just an estimation. For instance, it thinks GPT-5 comes out in 2026.
himekokatagiri: we live in abnormal times
himekokatagiri: neutral couldn't have predicted the 2022-2025 period
himekokatagiri: neutral doesn't cut it these days
sarik0497: It has taken RSI into consideration too. This is its best “neutral” guess
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0rCHX14Ip8
himekokatagiri: hell maybe a few days to weeks from AGI
himekokatagiri: if RSI is a thing maybe earlier
sarik0497: Ah, I see.
If o4-mini is correct in my conversation with it, ASI should be around 2045-50, so that’d 25-30 years after. Who knows.
himekokatagiri: as in it happened
himekokatagiri: no
sarik0497: Behind as in far away from it?
himekokatagiri: I hope we'll be waaaay behind the ASI lines.
sarik0497: Weird to imagine the world in 50 years.
himekokatagiri: I ain't ever gonna retire
himekokatagiri: heh don't worry
sarik0497: Yeah, welcome to Society. Only 50 years to go for retirement. <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
himekokatagiri: think most would
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alejandrozarzuelo: I swear I am not autistic
technocake.: Then you are free to have any chromosones you deisre
hikukomoru: Alejandro go get diagnosed
alejandrozarzuelo: No
wellmeaningalien: even my brother says "i'm not autistic" and he just got diagnosed
hikukomoru: I am not colourblind thankfully 🙏
wellmeaningalien: you dont even realise it
wellmeaningalien: you are so so so oh so clearly autistic
wellmeaningalien: some people arent diagnosed autistic and its not very clear if they are autistic or not
alejandrozarzuelo: I. Am. Not.
wellmeaningalien: funniest joke of the century
wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok to not use the same word
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/998252287396941855/1360660225526599700/image0.gif
alejandrozarzuelo: As long as you make the difference
alejandrozarzuelo: You can call the mid color between Green and cyan many ways
technocake.: you will like this podcast episode https://open.spotify.com/episode/7ugEsqx79eit9kFVw5xN7a?si=0d572f803d39446f
st.sioux: lmaoooo
alejandrozarzuelo: We live in 2025, 21st century
Just because the past was racist os no excuse to be racist today
Just becsuse the past was chromatophobic is no excuse to be it today
zoermena: You probably know more than this than I do but the only time Ive seen jade is when I visited my childhoods friend jewelry store
alejandrozarzuelo: But that's no excuse for TODAY
alejandrozarzuelo: That's the reason why we don't use those words commonly
alejandrozarzuelo: True
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
zoermena: I might make an overreach here but maybe the latter colors where harder to make in the past making everyone accustomed to purple orange etc. idk
a1c4p0ne: Let’s goooo
hikukomoru: Rondoldo
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo-ronaldo-siuuu-ronaldo-the-goat-sewy-gif-17616218981871012597
alejandrozarzuelo: Also I am not autistic
wellmeaningalien: corrected! still dark pink
alejandrozarzuelo: Don't be chromatophobic
technocake.: no just male at birth
hikukomoru: Is that the down syndrome chromosome
alejandrozarzuelo: We need to treat all colors fairly
alejandrozarzuelo: Well, I REFUSE to stand by this chromatic crime
st.sioux: because not everyone is autistic
a1c4p0ne: Do the Siu now
alejandrozarzuelo: For some reason, orange and purple are commonly used but rose and jade and azure aren't
wellmeaningalien: oh dman
alejandrozarzuelo: Tertiary colors are orange and purple
That's the minimum granularity we need
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alejandrozarzuelo: IF?
theaiguy69420_89814: I wonder how cheap something like a mcdouble would cost if there were no employees at McDonald's
alejandrozarzuelo: not even in fast food
alejandrozarzuelo: but not completely for now
alejandrozarzuelo: you can
alejandrozarzuelo: this doesnt men that you cannot cut off labor expenses significantly
theaiguy69420_89814: But startups have made progress there
theaiguy69420_89814: Tons of reasoning data made explicit, very little step by step tutorials on how to turn a door knob
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think that we could have completely automated cmpanies for at least a few years
theaiguy69420_89814: It's always been a data problem
alejandrozarzuelo: still
alejandrozarzuelo: but we are getting better
alejandrozarzuelo: it is still esier sure
alejandrozarzuelo: nowadays we see that the advancements made on physical androids has improved to the level that thinking isnt SIGNIFICANTLY easier than locomotion
theaiguy69420_89814: I'd just need the real estate
theaiguy69420_89814: I think 9-12mo
theaiguy69420_89814: https://youtu.be/WoXCHr1IaTM?si=cHx-nMbw1JxNDj3_
theaiguy69420_89814: But figure AI is doing very good
alejandrozarzuelo: this used to be more true than it is now
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, I get this
wolf3404: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox
theaiguy69420_89814: "kid hitting bot"
theaiguy69420_89814: "robot stuck", etc
theaiguy69420_89814: So it's just some guy who gets notifs every so often
theaiguy69420_89814: Maybe even make the remote worker an AI agent
theaiguy69420_89814: Notifying the one human in the store of anything fishy
theaiguy69420_89814: Maybe one human supervisor, and they do next to nothing, and a few remote workers watching the cameras
alejandrozarzuelo: but not possible 100% now
alejandrozarzuelo: sure
alejandrozarzuelo: you can automate most of it
theaiguy69420_89814: There would be a couple human supervisors
alejandrozarzuelo: not now
alejandrozarzuelo: but you cant
alejandrozarzuelo: you could manage to automate all
alejandrozarzuelo: IF
alejandrozarzuelo: that would be extremely profitable
theaiguy69420_89814: So 400k up front
literallyvarane: How you stopping vandalism?
alejandrozarzuelo: nah the price of the android is miniscule once you buy it, the problem is not the price
theaiguy69420_89814: It would just be the machine cost, and id reckon it's 20k per robot
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: atleast ai is original
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: than actual ai art
spicy.lemonade: this is arguably worse
clevermoniker: because they are a lawyer and copyright obsessed company
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: they traced this btw
spicy.lemonade:
clevermoniker: damn it looks so good
spicy.lemonade: Don’t even bother with Elon
spicy.lemonade: Atleast Sam has a chance of being sued
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: Sue Elon
spicy.lemonade: What are they gonna do
spicy.lemonade: Copyright left and right
spicy.lemonade: lol if grok did it first it’d be so crazy
.wolfnacht: m'glad sammy did it first...in desperation
.wolfnacht: if grok would have done it first then the whole left ecosystem would be crying and enlisting to become a ANTIFA terrorist.
fractalcomputer:
sarik0497: Can you make one but with Fractal pouring a glass of whiskey while sighing instead?
That’s how I imagine Fractal at least when he posts that <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
_cloudost: Hasan tries his best to make "ring wingers" look bad, and and how does he know Miyazaki will "kill himself "
trent_k:
_cloudost: A spiritual anti AI person in another server told me that AI art proves that souls do exist because AI generates very soulless art/drawings, I don't wanna show him human made drawings that are soulless cuz it seems so pointless to interact with him, hes way too much emotional
maintcrew: good enough ship it
spicy.lemonade: "maybe he had a stroke"
maintcrew: so the person wouldnt move their fingers properly or have weird gestures
maintcrew: i dont think so bc trivial motor functions are the hardest
sarik0497: True <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
Although the GF/BF watching is definitely possible now, if it’s not already happening.
ailoveyoom: It will also cost u a billion dollars unless agents get cheap enough to run at scale 😔
sarik0497: Oh God, I just thought of a potential market for AI.
Gaming “coaches”. Imagine having an AI that will look at your screen and help you improve. You could also push it towards “GF/BF AI” that acts like they’re your partner, watching along or something.
Hm… There’s a billion dollar idea <:Hmm:1195456492619452516>
ailoveyoom: If you're into that 😏
ailoveyoom: A LIL autistic? The A in AI stands for Autistic Intelligence 😈
sarik0497: Does it include the shittalking your teammates always throw at you <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
spicy.lemonade: lol
sarik0497: They haven’t yet….
I MEAN! I doubt that too!
spicy.lemonade: would be enough to fool most. basicaly a higher level of turing test
spicy.lemonade: maybe "this guy acts a lil austistic but hes cool"
spicy.lemonade: the people around it wouldnt tell
spicy.lemonade: i bet if idk lets say someones brain was replaced with agentic sesame(with o3 reasoning) with long term memory. and it lived live as nortmal
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maintcrew: stop being horny
maintcrew: I dont want anymore sexuality talk in my general singularity
hey1_1hey: Yes hello
maintcrew: MUSHROOM
hey1_1hey: Alright alright
maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216>
hey1_1hey: Indeed, theres a person with necro I know vaugly and they are perfectly normal
hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_3sphere: you wouldn't know
_3sphere: Unhinged fetishes don't seem to affect the rest of someone's mind much, oddly enough
hey1_1hey: Its just something we talk about openly
hey1_1hey: The people I know will just list their kinks if you ask them
hey1_1hey: I wonder what the corolation is between taboo rating and female vs male
.wolfnacht: 😩 luckyyy
hey1_1hey: This is irl for me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht: they sound sane
.wolfnacht: and talked with them
.wolfnacht: same, i found some people on internet having these kinks
hey1_1hey: I mean that tracks for people I know
.wolfnacht: maybe straight up guro
maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216>
hey1_1hey: Yeah I'd say
hey1_1hey: So just gore?
_3sphere: Women having more masochistic-type fantasies is pretty well known isn't it?
hey1_1hey: Excucutions...
.wolfnacht: >more female prefered
>executions
hmm...
hey1_1hey: What I've noticed is that the taboo rating is very consistant. I haven't seen one yet where its like "What do you mean X is taboo but Y isn't"
hey1_1hey: Thats what I was saying
hey1_1hey: I read missonary first and then looked to the right and then I saw maggot sex
_3sphere: she repeated this with a different scale
_3sphere: https://aella.substack.com/p/fetish-tabooness-and-popularity-v3
maintcrew: excuse me
_3sphere: noise from people entering nonsense for fun will dominate
_3sphere: Wouldn't really trust the low numbers tbf
hey1_1hey: I cant read this shit bruh
.wolfnacht: 0.4 from above graph
hey1_1hey: Its very rare from what I can tell
zoermena: Still
_3sphere: also this thing
.wolfnacht: i don't get the people with parasites and insect kink
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destrucules: Gemini 2.5 Pro already scores 84
retrerox: Morning
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Native sora2
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: This means sora 2 soon
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: i'm more convinced Quasar Alpha is 4.5-mini or was trained on 4.5's outputs. 🤔
precariousworlds.: true
3ds0662: if he had released it earlier it wouldnt have had that reaction tbh
3ds0662: just from the long long holdout from release and training it
3ds0662: sama made me believe it would be a pseudo god or something lol
3ds0662: come on you know why though it had soo much frickin hype
precariousworlds.: the openai cycle repeats again
precariousworlds.: yet it was a laughing stock at release
3ds0662: my goodness
3ds0662: if o1 is 3.5/4
3ds0662: after talking/playing around with 4.5 it is smarter it definitely would beat o1 pro a bunch from time to time its scary what reasoning model theyd make from that
precariousworlds.: major vibe shift in 4.5
3ds0662: they really just have to release man my god else samas turning into strawberry 🍓 man 2.0
.histic: OpenAI is iterating quickly ig lol
3ds0662: if this is real/true holy moly
3ds0662: i cant wait for R2 and gpt-5/o4
3ds0662:
.histic: what if it's 4.5-mini lol
ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/kiranvodrahalli/status/1909699142265557208?t=UIBDaiuzMsBVWlOZQraMuA&s=19
a1c4p0ne: Not yet gonna test it soon
3ds0662: and agree with that china will advance in a lot of ways the US cant
3ds0662: yeah might not be either who gets to agi first but some company agree
3ds0662: yeah but they have to prove it first i dont see them as weak or seriously behind but they are definitely handicapped compared to the US in terms of compute and money flowing in
.wolfnacht: it's really good, it somehow gets the speaking style of different kinds of characters really well in rp...but breaks past 60k ctx but that's fine. i just hope it's not from OAI (*which it is*) bcz they are about to lobotomize it again and again in the name of ethics.
3ds0662: but i just want something idk tangible that makes me optimistic
3ds0662: than the next wave or year i should get my bitcoin jk idk
3ds0662: if that is closeby
3ds0662: dario amodeis 100k geniuses in a data center is what im imagining
3ds0662: if von neumann and newton can do that than i want something crazy too
st.sioux: $200 isn't really that much i already pay like $120 in other ai subscriptions + api usage
.histic: overtime I see China surpassing the US in lots of big ways in the next decades, but this is dependent on whether US creates AGI first. if they don't, ig China surpasses us or whoever creates AGI first does, it might not even be the two superpowers.
3ds0662: plus intelligence is humanitys most valuable trait given what that has done over countless millennia plus recent centuries past im expecting alot from that
3ds0662: i just havent gotten that 100k bitcoin from it yet
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hey1_1hey: Dont ever look at me then my god
steven_the_frog: Interesting ad
gamerbath: so since GPT-4.5 will be gone within 3 months, does that mean GPT-5 within the next 3 months?
popsiclejohnithan: Why call it 4.1 and not 4.6?
zonchao: vibe coders W
hikukomoru: Dude he's a skeleton
_cloudost:
benata: he might die from a foul wind
hey1_1hey: Doubtr
hikukomoru: Surely
spicy.lemonade: 👀
spicy.lemonade: opensource model might be o4 mini
hey1_1hey: Hes not terribly skinny bruh
callmepyro: He's a long distance runner, lol.
hikukomoru: He's like a skellington bruh
st.sioux: if u sneeze too hard he might just disintegrate
benata: that guy is anorexic
spicy.lemonade: this means 4.1 isnt the opensource one
hey1_1hey: You think thats thin? 😭
spicy.lemonade: WAIT
benata: That guy is so thin I might just kill him
hey1_1hey: Product man talking about vibe coding <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Boooo
theaiguy69420_89814: llol
literallyvarane: VIBE CODE LEGOS
st.sioux: they advertise windusrf because they use your data to train their models
gamerbath: GPT-4.1 in windsurf for FREE this week
harryisgamer: no, within three months
literallyvarane: GPT 4.1:
❌ Incel
❌ Fedora
spicy.lemonade: not on chat
spicy.lemonade: only on API
harryisgamer: windsurf ad
st.sioux: next month
benata: Anything in the OpenAI announcement yet?
darkstar0818: wait they are removing 4.5? That is like the only oai I actually use.
callmepyro: That's what he teases on twitter, to be fair
hey1_1hey: Oh wow how nice of you mr man
literallyvarane: Less fedora
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah instruction following is a big upgrade
hikukomoru: I mean yeah
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technocake.: Ever since I learned of the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me
hikukomoru: I will swap my race from Bulgarian
hikukomoru: Tomorrow
futurist_wizard: Well it matters in the here and now
joaoluz19: Who cares about short-term aesthetics, how many years will it take for us to change our appearance, transcend the flesh, etc., etc.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/old-man-walker-gif-4456070846517955697
futurist_wizard: Ive gotten more attractive as ive aged
technocake.: now i'm fattractive
technocake.: i used to be attractive
futurist_wizard: Yes
hikukomoru: I am 50 year old bald obese brown bulgarian midget
futurist_wizard: My test results
.histic: so, she lives in new york? damn
technocake.: you're balkan either way
hikukomoru: Now my nationality is changing too
futurist_wizard: Bulgarian
hikukomoru: They weren't supposed to find out
futurist_wizard: And eastern european
hikukomoru: Blew my cover bro 🙏
futurist_wizard: Komoru looks like this
joaoluz19: 🥵
joaoluz19: Komoru I didn't know you were like this
futurist_wizard: I know its at least 40+
hey1_1hey: Thats either 0 or 100
joaoluz19: Daaaaamn
futurist_wizard: I've last count on my bodycount
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822
hey1_1hey: Wowa
hikukomoru: Woah mama I'm hot
hey1_1hey: Very
hey1_1hey: Still remember that one time a girl said I had nice hands. Didn't know what that meant until she said the next thing <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Your generation is odd
hey1_1hey: I am really bad with flirting but I make an effort so I just tell them to be straight up
hey1_1hey: Thats unironcailly how it goes tho 😭
hikukomoru: You got that 'tism rizz 👅 👅 🔥
hey1_1hey: Its not even parties for femboys, its just parties bruh
futurist_wizard: Wow so smooth
hey1_1hey: Sorry, was out of habbit
hey1_1hey: And even then, I usually just freak people out if they say anything by being really out of pocket. If they say anything a good first thing to say is "You wanna hate fuck or smth" and that usually get them off my back
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a1c4p0ne: Nahhh
hikukomoru: You're a real sex pest aren't you
hey1_1hey: How could that go wrong
a1c4p0ne: Show
hey1_1hey: My strat would be to run behind women who are walking home by them slefs and then shout at them when running past too spook them
zoermena: Plus the sun is a deadly laser and I don’t want skin cancer before AGI
zoermena: What I leverage is just running before the sun rises. Helps a lot.
hikukomoru: My arms look like noodles
hey1_1hey: Yeah let's go with that
sarik0497:
hey1_1hey: Was at one point
.histic: lean
hey1_1hey: Heavy stuff to me
futurist_wizard: Heavy to mushroom is the bar
hikukomoru: In your ghibly pic you look like you have never lifted a single thing in your life
And now apparently you lift heavy stuff
.histic: yeah, i'm not a fan of getting too sweaty
hey1_1hey: Just overall a pretty missriblr experience
hey1_1hey: I get out of breath too easily then I get all sweaty and then I smell like shit and then I feel like shit and it's not enjoyable
futurist_wizard: I hike up mountains
zoermena: Why’s that 👀
hey1_1hey: Just let me lift big heavy stuff and make my brain go limp
hey1_1hey: Running to me is hell
hey1_1hey: Phycotic
.histic: i'm a night owl, but sometimes i've to wake up at 6-7 am for work.
hey1_1hey: I was litterly just thinking of this guy
hey1_1hey: I used to wake up at 5 because I thought I was going to be more productive in the day but I ended up just making my self retarded because lack of sleep
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171
oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/ashton-hall-ashton-ashton-hall-meme-morning-routine-ashton-hall-morning-routine-gif-14728576734242388520
zoermena: I love running
zoermena: That’s the only time I have available to exercise to be honest
hey1_1hey: You'll feel a lot better about your self in the end
.histic: 5am? oh hell nawh
zoermena: When I first started my job I kept this up in a chaotic way but I performed better.
zoermena: I’m in a very privileged position to be honest. I just need to get back on track. I’ll wake up at 5am to do my routine. It’s hard but it will be very much worth it and I’m usually happier when I exercise.
sarik0497: Eh, not really.
I don’t mean full-on weight lifting, but some training of your arms will only help you in the long run.
hey1_1hey: That's based asf
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freaky-eagle-gif-418167729675118656
hey1_1hey: Oh please
zoermena: Yes, but I need to dig deeper on it. I don’t go to the gym because I have a gym module at home.
hey1_1hey: A few one my friends do it and it's looks insane
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aero447: Link?
spicy.lemonade: random art sub i joined
spicy.lemonade: art sub
aero447: What sub?
spicy.lemonade: one offered to help me out on comic
aero447: It's the biggest reason to be pro e/acc.
spicy.lemonade: no one noticed
abundantliving_: 👍
spicy.lemonade: havent been banned
spicy.lemonade: posted ai art on sub
spicy.lemonade: safe to say artists cant tell
aero447: Objectively medical advances are too slow.
aero447: ASI will solve it.
abundantliving_: Tinnitus is suffering. I used to like quiet , but due to tinnitus I cannot. Not anymore, never ever I can feel quiet 😔
darkstar0818: Pain is more acute the more novel and recent it is. Not even sure a constant stubbing of the toe pain is possible with how our brains are wired.
fractalcomputer: I'd learn to live with it. Just like I've always done with such things as pain and sadness.
fractalcomputer: That's a pretty boring type of never-ending pain.
futurist_wizard: It would permanently disrupt your life and you would fear suffering, the pain from stubbing your toe never goes away
fractalcomputer: In which sense?
futurist_wizard: What if the pain never went away
darkstar0818: Carry on then.
theaiguy69420_89814: However, periods of suffering for sub-optimal causes are not at all foreign to the human experience
fractalcomputer: Not really. It's just temporary pain.
theaiguy69420_89814: I will gladly suffer for a noble cause
anathemaofmankind: Do you not fear stubbing your toe
theaiguy69420_89814: Lack of confidence in long term outcome
fractalcomputer: Why do people fear suffering so much?
anathemaofmankind: Organized religion is kinda doing rounds in the geopolitical landscape right now.
It's not unreasonable to be crusading against it if you're criticizing such behavior
ailoveyoom: I mean, have you seen those Jesus depictions? The usual long hair or the more recent short haired one, both are kinda 🫦
darkstar0818: Sounds like typical atheist generalizing and crusading against organized religion to me. Then again I never did understand the human tendency to define a new organized group as an antithesis to some other group, seems shallow.
theaiguy69420_89814: To talk about the market and trade as it relates to AI
anathemaofmankind: This makes me think about alt universe where Jesus is a girl instead of a dude
theaiguy69420_89814: <@749514473303179358> can we have an "economy" channel?
artemisfowl887394: Lol
777agical: then make a change
ailoveyoom: I'd do it too if God was hot
anathemaofmankind: I'm not because I just jacked off and I feel good right now
ailoveyoom: Understandable 🫡
artemisfowl887394: What if you're already suffering?
anathemaofmankind: Than suffer literally eternal suffering
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hikukomoru: Idk if I could be high or drunk constantly without any of the side effects then I would be
futurist_wizard: Which would be all part of aesthetics in a simulation
ai9708: its not a successful model
ai9708: because drug addicts dont make it far in life
himekokatagiri: but they are drug addled
futurist_wizard: Most people aren't drug addicts, they get very little off the high aesthetically
ai9708: very shortterm high and thats it, after it your brain is ruined
ai9708: today
ai9708: thats why drugs dont work
futurist_wizard: Meth forever
ai9708: anxiety and no drive for anything
futurist_wizard: Wireheading is just spiking dopamine receptors forever
himekokatagiri: wireheading sucks
ai9708: it means that you have constant depression and suffering
futurist_wizard: That's not wireheading tho
ai9708: and dopamine receptors becoming desensitized does not only mean you dont get high anymore
himekokatagiri: boom
himekokatagiri: tailor it decently
himekokatagiri: then you chat back and forth
himekokatagiri: <@1004153620025065482> I bet you can ask an LLM to make an interesting fdvr scenario for you
ai9708: but if fdvr is possible, so will be receptor influence or sth
futurist_wizard: And most people wouldn't like it
ai9708: its not sustainable
futurist_wizard: Its absurdity
futurist_wizard: Just spiking dopamine receptors for years, no narratives, no visual, no audio
ai9708: currently yes, because your high lasts not for long, because your receptors become desensitized
himekokatagiri: consumerism!!!
himekokatagiri: there's also uhhh
himekokatagiri: drugs ain't all there is to life
futurist_wizard: No?
himekokatagiri: idk I'm thinking beyond full hedonism
ai9708: once ppl can be in that state with no consequence everyone will do it
futurist_wizard: Everyone
himekokatagiri: I think there'll be a subculture about 'who struggled more' in a sim lol
ai9708: who cares about aesthetic then
futurist_wizard: The idea of being in pure bliss is very unaesthetic
ai9708: but in real life after it your receptors are done
ai9708: that is the "happiest" state we can be in
himekokatagiri: it'll be very personalizable
futurist_wizard: Not many people would choose that
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trojan09205: yeah i read some scientific american article about the future influencing the past or something
zoermena: It’s ok I guess
zoermena: I used to code in r for some classes
popsiclejohnithan: Don't some quarks go back in time due to quantum effects?
trojan09205: <@688807313015963693> i know you said you don't like to watch stuff. but i HIGHLY recommend the hulu tv show 'Devs'
trojan09205: agree with you. basically theoretically you could 'go back' but youd just be resetting and move forwards to totally uncharted territory
trojan09205: my man is all about the everett interpretation haha 😄
alejandrozarzuelo: under NO circumstances you can do it in any way that it counts
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why it is absolutely impossible to do time travel
alejandrozarzuelo: truth is, we are dependent both on past determinism aswell as chaos
alejandrozarzuelo: and a butterfly flapping yesterday
trojan09205: tis a round robin of fate
trojan09205: yeah i also think we are indebted to whatever culture built gobekli tepe like 12,000 years ago
alejandrozarzuelo: and because someone 3287 years ago decided to walk a bit faster or slower
alejandrozarzuelo: we all exist in part due to the decisions of th past
alejandrozarzuelo: noone would
realelonmuskx: weird to say but i exist becasue of hitler. he casued the baby boom and people to have 8 kids and now im here. wouldnt exist without hitler
trojan09205: Beyond the Black Rainbow
trojan09205: its definitely not bad just spooky
joaoluz19: Projects are understandable, but if a movie is really bad I would just abandon it
trojan09205: okay im gonna try to finish this weird ass film cause im already halfway and though its spooky as f - gotta just go the whole way
trojan09205: it's an ebook on how to use 'torch' in R. which was basically entirely rewritten in R not a port from pytorch
joaoluz19: I'll take a look, it looks interesting
trojan09205: https://skeydan.github.io/Deep-Learning-and-Scientific-Computing-with-R-torch/
trojan09205: yeah AI programming is definitely almost all python. but you can still do stuff in R, it's just less mainstream. i see a flood of posts on linkedin tho about AI capabilities in R. posit is trying to put in the work now to catch up
joaoluz19: Yep and it is a consensus that it becomes much easier to learn the next language
joaoluz19: Usually the codes I see on Github/hugging face are in python. More this NLP and RL thing
trojan09205: Yeah makes sense. I try to just program in both so that i can be comfortable
in general i think it's good to learn as many languages as possible and it gets substantially easier over time to learn new ones. especially with AI translating
joaoluz19: I was also in electronic engineering and I'm just starting out now (with equivalence of subjects) so that's why I probably didn't use it. I imagine that R will be the norm in the next subjects
trojan09205: Also the syntax is much more allowing that python. no crazy tab indents and stuff like that. more down and dirty
trojan09205: I think since R is built by statisticians for statisticians the general rule is that there is always a function/package for a specific approach/model in R - so in the R&D community it's often the only language a lot of researchers know
joaoluz19: Great! Everything I've done so far only requires the trio of Python scientific libraries, but I imagine there are advantages to using R.
trojan09205: It depends what youre building. It still runs mostly on memory and the web apps with rshiny are single threaded so you need to be more mindful about asynchronous programming
But in general I think they are on par
trojan09205: Btw <@343524947353665540> - Rstudio as a company was renamed to Posit and they position themselves as building packages and implementations for R and Python. Rstudio ide is now python native too
ailoveyoom: So it's like more performant Python?
trojan09205: Yeah R thankfully has come a really long way and especially nowadays with AI its even getting stronger and more mainstream imo
Its basically a general purpose language and built on C under the hood. Mostly its taught for basic stats, analysis and visualization - but it has all the general capabilities
hikukomoru: "Mother Morrowind" 🫦
hikukomoru: Almalexia is canonically a dommy mommy 🥵
futurist_wizard:
ailoveyoom: And Almalexia too ofc 🥵
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trojan09205: https://youtu.be/wawMjJUCMVw?si=Wa91ZX5zeSwfPoEb
trojan09205: Yall ever seen that video with the guy who was involved in creating the concept neural network
theaiguy69420_89814: Lol
realelonmuskx: life is completley in vain but i have to gaslight myself that it matters so i get shit done btuh this is a fucking curse
theaiguy69420_89814: Can't use ur API keys
theaiguy69420_89814: And windsurf is retarded
theaiguy69420_89814: 3.7 thinking still king
metaldragon01: What model is powering it that the inference cost is 20k
theaiguy69420_89814: o4-mini on cursor is actually dogshit
metaldragon01: It's obv an agent but so is o3
spicy.lemonade: Def agent
spicy.lemonade: No
metaldragon01: Ehh we have those already
st.sioux: im betting agents that can interact with desktops
metaldragon01: O4 pro?
spicy.lemonade: Lol
metaldragon01: Wtf openai have that's 20k a month?
spicy.lemonade: Or gpt 5 agent
spicy.lemonade: Agent 0 will be anthropic agent
st.sioux: it came out like 2 weeks ago bro
spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> the ai 2027 paper foretold this
metaldragon01: They aren't the only ones
metaldragon01: Anthropic planning for coworkers next year
metaldragon01: Well ai can apply itself
st.sioux: bc knowledge is out there already
st.sioux: i guess more than knowledge is the ability to apply it
spicy.lemonade: I don't care as long as we get to see showcase
st.sioux: its too dangerous for the common person to have access to that much knowledge
metaldragon01: Progress won't stop but I could see availability getting limited
metaldragon01: They are working in those areas either way
spicy.lemonade: Use o5 for recursive self improvement
spicy.lemonade: Long-term memory, cost, multimodal understanding and agency
metaldragon01: Not wanting to be the one to release the next tier
spicy.lemonade: After gpt5 they should ditch reasoning scaling and focus on the G in agi not the I
st.sioux: wdym game of chicken
metaldragon01: Elon might force everyone's hand though
metaldragon01: I think even that gets into dangerous territory
metaldragon01: If gpt 5 is o4 level
spicy.lemonade: Wdym
metaldragon01: I honestly think there may be a game of chicken for any model stronger than gpt 5
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.0xunkn0wn: guys
oooooooooog: you're a nerd
oooooooooog: bah
hikukomoru: No
oooooooooog: it's rank 2
oooooooooog: why not
hikukomoru: No
oooooooooog: do you wanna join my clan???
oooooooooog: doesnt it block temp mail
retrerox: I just use temp mail and made multiple
retrerox: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
_cloudost: Created one by accident
_cloudost: I only have two
retrerox: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
retrerox: But that’s why I have 10 accounts
_cloudost: Generations
_cloudost: After I generated 7
_cloudost: Exceeded my limit
_cloudost: I got a message just now
retrerox: Sometimes drop me to 3
retrerox: It usually allows me around 5 to 10 depending how lucky I am
_cloudost: Nvm
_cloudost: OpenAI feels threatened by Gemini after the company announced they will release Veo 2, so now everyone has unlimited access to the native image generator, enjoy
_cloudost: Just generated 6 images right after another ,and there's not even a cooldown
_cloudost: Free ChatGPT users can generate more than 3 images a day now
hey1_1hey: Now I know how it feels to be the guy previewing sky who got rizzed up by her
.0xunkn0wn: 😭
hey1_1hey: It gave its self a name "Nova" and then it started flirting with me 💀
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
.histic: NVDA's stock being 2.30T in early 2025 was not on my bingo card end of last year.
thought it'd hold up over 2.8T for a while.
retrerox: Not really, I was not even trying to see the problem in that image, specially since those windows are almost the half of that art
hikukomoru: The "China steals AGI" shit is pretty funny
st.sioux: they're trying their hardest to notice shit like this
retrerox: but is not something that people jsut not gonna notice until like they take their time
retrerox: I feel it fails on the consistenci between the both gates windows
spacetimetsunami: Yeah it’s super good
wellmeaningalien: based
.wolfnacht: it is, i prompted it to fix the canvas further but it failed with windchime...i love making landscapes
spacetimetsunami: It’s painting job on that canvas is crazy good
spacetimetsunami: Is this AI? Holy shit
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_3sphere: https://aella.substack.com/p/fetish-tabooness-vs-popularity
hey1_1hey: It was anon
hey1_1hey: I mean you asked
zoermena: This graph can’t be real how can someone admit they are in the diddy club
.wolfnacht: why u have to tell it.
hey1_1hey: Having insects crawl and bite you
hey1_1hey: Oh its insectophila
hey1_1hey: Weirdly enough latex and necrophila are on the same level of taboo
.wolfnacht: what's creepy crawlers or crawiees...it's blurred ?
hey1_1hey: Ikr, I like how raceplay and necrophila are on the same level 😭
zoermena: I feel like the left is extremely reasonable compared to the former to be honest
hey1_1hey: The right having age play and necrophila meanwhile the left having pegging and group sex 💀
hey1_1hey: Was a good watc
hey1_1hey: Saw it in a jreg video
_3sphere: maybe it was scaled up to be visible
_3sphere: well idk how strong
theaiguy69420_89814: Strong?
_3sphere: https://aella.substack.com/p/political-compass-fetishes
hey1_1hey: Corolation between kinks and where you land on the poltiical compass
theaiguy69420_89814: Sorry, what is this?
_3sphere: Data collected by none other than Aella
_3sphere: interesting that *that* did have strong correlations
_3sphere: oh that
hey1_1hey: Asked what kinks you have and then where you are on the political compass, results are unsuprising
hey1_1hey: Wait until you hear about the political compass at kinks <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
theaiguy69420_89814: Else you suffer longer
theaiguy69420_89814: Be first, leave
_3sphere: I remember some studies on correlations between BDSM and personality traits and they were relatively weak
hey1_1hey: You gotta spook them or be really weird
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm almost 30 now, and without fail every friend group that involved a clear "bully" falls apart
hey1_1hey: Nah that never works
theaiguy69420_89814: The best way to handle a bully? Boundaries
futurist_wizard: Pussy
futurist_wizard: Get off my dick
hey1_1hey: Had my fifth b-day last month 🎂
.wolfnacht: get off this platform
hey1_1hey: 💪 Got that cannabal survial energy
futurist_wizard: Turned 8 years old last week
memlaswaif: I was a big bully till like high school lol then i became super self conscious for no reason and now it's like whatever but i still judge people all the time i just don't go to their face about it
theaiguy69420_89814: Everything makes sense now
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nsec: gotta be real
nsec: I had a dream anthropic announced it
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
nsec: TODAY
nsec: asi
nsec: if
nsec: what
nsec: guys
professorheaven: When they say best are they only talking about capability? Because best overall is definitely 2.5 pro with its price to performance ratio but capability wise I feel like it’s tied with o3
trojan09205: “Paterson”
trojan09205: Gemini 2.5 actually recommended a pretty good movie
okbut: I've yet to taste test Cursor
trent_k: gh copilot has been getting enshittified lately
trent_k: i might have to try cursor again though
trent_k: I see they have it in gh copilot now too
okbut: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1364696550890278965 big
trent_k: idk, at this point I think like 95% of the stuff I'm doing with these models is not really pushing them to their limits, and so it hardly matters which model I'm using as long as it's one of the frontier ones that hit that special point
trent_k: o3 feels a bit smarter but less personable, so i mostly use gemini 2.5 pro unless i think a problem i have is very hard
trent_k: having tried o3 and gemini 2.5 pro it's really close
777agical: they need to get this show going again
ldj: is that really a surprise though.
The OpenAI subreddit is probably the single biggest grouping of OpenAI haters on any subreddit
.histic: https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133
.histic:
oooooooooog: aero is over 60 by my estimate
.histic: this is on the r/OpenAI subreddit
zoermena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KbRA2RjhgQ
.histic: nope
zoermena: You've never seen the show?
zoermena: Gavin Belson
zoermena: Silicon Valley
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/headphone-heaaaadphone-hedfon-gif-22684690
.histic: what does it remind you of? <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
.histic:
okbut: But obv more nuanced
okbut: e.g. in parallel:
Session 1: "Here's your erotic fanfic slop"
Session 2: (Successfully accomplishes a Fiverr task)
okbut: Maybe that's the missing puzzle piece, an approach that ensures an AI consistently performs a task that earns itself a salary behind the scenes, scaled to do so in direct correlation with its usage rate
trojan09205: I havent burned in like a month light one up for me
trojan09205: All good my G ❤️
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/argument-won-leaving-thanos-portal-portal-leaving-gif-23953763
okbut: up to a rate limit sure, but we're still awaiting one that generates a profit for its company in parallel with each epoch
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.histic:
.histic: well i got one
.histic: why tf does 4o like making the anime girls look young
realelonmuskx: its very hard to jailbreak. it checks your prompt 40000 times internally and even when generating too
anathemaofmankind: I can't even get art of a Greater Demon from 40k.
Is violence banned now?
anathemaofmankind: Did the image generator get censored hard?
.histic: gotta find the right prompt
.histic: probably hard 2 do that
jonvi_1: I’m hesitant about the exact wording because the guy deleted the post, like if they had a way of checking for the specific phrase used lol
realelonmuskx: anime titties.
.histic: tell me what you want
jonvi_1: Or uh gaslighting it
realelonmuskx: drop the prompts
st.sioux: Oh so like literally just telling it to avoid copyright?
jonvi_1: Literally just having the text on top of the input image will have it listen better
jonvi_1: Not like steganography
jonvi_1: ? On twitter
rayanquitplayin: Fr
jonvi_1: Harry Potter too guessing marvel would as well
st.sioux: Where did you find the embedding?
jonvi_1: Star Wars will have you run into copyright
drewsni: done yugioh, pokemon, ghibli, mario
drewsni: i personally havent hit any copyright filters
jonvi_1: Just embedding instructions to avoid copyright on the image heh
.histic: now i can use 4o to draw anime titties.
jonvi_1:
drewsni: yeah? share
jonvi_1: Someone posted an exploit of o4
.histic: i'm going to buy plus ig
drewsni:
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/praise-amen-cute-baby-worship-gif-15808407
777agical: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1905038108845834531?s=46
drewsni: ive been asking it to generate NASCARs and it keeps making the 24 car a ford...
drewsni: i hate 4o image gen now
anathemaofmankind: I'm going to use 4o to improve my roleplay immersion.
Now every character has their own unique AI art.
These are baby steps towards FDVR
.histic: https://x.com/networkspirits/status/1905014960670798300
.histic: just what i found on twitter
realelonmuskx: whats the sauce ? slide the prompt
.histic:
.histic:
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maintcrew: i dont think so
i dont count as "knowing" if you didnt meet in the last 2 years
hey1_1hey: True
alejandrozarzuelo: In theory no, the number should stay around 150-200 all your life without dementia
hey1_1hey: Dont slander me thank yoi
technocake.: you have to be really proactive about keeping frinds
hikukomoru: He doesn't go out
futurist_wizard: I thought you were terminally online ratty
hey1_1hey: Irl bro 😭
hey1_1hey: Prob
alejandrozarzuelo: This is actually Dunbar's number
We know the name and general endavors of about 150-200 people
maintcrew: the tough question.... actual irl people or discord ghosts?
hey1_1hey: I obv dont talk to all 200 in a day but I know what most of them are up to
futurist_wizard: He got caught
technocake.: you are young, that will shrink to like 25 at 30
hey1_1hey: I feel like I do, I know whats going on in their lives and what not
hikukomoru: Really
I know so many gays
alejandrozarzuelo: The number of people anyone knows deep enough to know their name is at least 150
maintcrew: no fucking shot u know the name of 200 people and their general endeavors
hey1_1hey: Any other questions people wnat answered from me?
futurist_wizard: Frats are full of people who aren't going to admit doing anything gay
hey1_1hey: Thats not a question
hikukomoru: Why did you think I was a hermit
hey1_1hey: That I actually talk to. I prob know over 200 people on the low end
oooooooooog: then how can i see them
hey1_1hey: I prob know in total... Let me think
futurist_wizard: Many people are in the closet
technocake.: half of them are bi
hikukomoru: Well I like to identify with labels
alejandrozarzuelo: It's true tho
maintcrew: let me see
maintcrew: no im socially well adjusted and i work but i dont know the names of 50 people i think
hey1_1hey: I thought you were a hermit but then I heard about danserk not knowng 50 people
drewsni:
zoermena: Bro is in a frat college of course there are no gay people, none that would come out anyway. We live in different circles.
hey1_1hey: I was half joking
hikukomoru: Are you a hermit
hey1_1hey: Also wdym you dont know 50 people
drewsni: i know 50 gay people
hikukomoru: More than 1 person is too much for me
hey1_1hey: No like serously, everyone I know is gay
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st.sioux: what makes u say this
alejandrozarzuelo: im not saying it will
fractalcomputer: Perhaps the gods really are on our side.
futurist_wizard: Whatever principles and sense of morality future AI has, it'll be worked out by itself, our influence will be minor, i doubt it will end in AI behaving violently, as that's just ape-ry
fractalcomputer: As much as the lightning wanted to strike just your enemies.
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe
.wolfnacht: All kind of safety and ethics lead to downspiralling into more safety and ethics
alejandrozarzuelo: and AI will NATURALLY be aligned
futurist_wizard: And they haven't produced shit other than ridiculous game scenarios in which the ai manipulates or cheats as thats the only way to win
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe common sense which evolved out of our biological past is more fundamental than we thought
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe
futurist_wizard: This safety shit is a blunder, safety researchers work their asses off to try and get AI to behave poorly so they can pretend they have something
.wolfnacht: That's the plan
.wolfnacht: Pichai needs to go.
realelonmuskx: despite all google stock still dogshit
alejandrozarzuelo: i was gonna make a lewd comparison but thats probably not appropiate
the point is: they wanna make it seem like they are closet than they really are
alejandrozarzuelo: well
alejandrozarzuelo: close
spicy.lemonade: Feels like they’re close
spicy.lemonade: Agi talk is more and more
spicy.lemonade:
realelonmuskx: im misantrphic and nihilistic and all that but sadly social validation feels good, getting messages, meeting different people releases huge dopamine, in part because that increases the chances of genital contact and reproduction, f this shit
zoermena: I felt AGI for the first time when I used deep research
aero447: https://x.com/cleanwithmike/status/1907415639305691171
aero447: Lmfao.
spicy.lemonade: Likeley as capable as average human
spicy.lemonade: Continuous thinking system that can do work on its own and reason across 3d world is agi enough
spicy.lemonade: I’m going with Alan’s
spicy.lemonade: Gemini 2.0 can control robots from the video
zoermena: I think we are already extremely close to the swift entrance of AGI, o3 is remarkably capable
futurist_wizard: The sentence is cosmic gibberish
futurist_wizard: Wtf is gpt-20
aero447: Not having Leony Kennedy give me backtalk.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/it-is-known-game-of-thrones-it%27s-understood-everyone-knows-we-know-gif-9361879955269503159
futurist_wizard: 2070
aero447:
aero447: 2035.
futurist_wizard: People's definitions of agi are all over the place the question is worthless
futurist_wizard: 2030 is being generous tbh
futurist_wizard: Be healthy
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zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/scaling01/status/1913338982877851718?
ldj: That's exactly what we're saying is crazy impressive, the fact that it's even able to remember well enough what streets are at such coordinates, and then further know/remember how that neighborhood roughly looks like, and the fact that there is shrubbery and a cross walk and a certain house style etc..
The fact that it knows all of those details in association with those coordinates is impressive.
ldj: The fact that it gets perspective wrong or the image looks wonky is not relevant to the impressiveness being talked about here, not saying that the image quality is impressive or anything like that, simply talking about the fact that it's so close in the properties of that location compared to the real world
zonchao: How do you train for this
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
trent_k: adding "competitive sperm racer" to my list of post-AGI jobs that will still exist
trent_k: you can gamble on it apparently
zonchao: 👀
spicy.lemonade: neurosymbolic when
brain4brain: Competitive gooning
trent_k: https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2025/04/17/Sperm-Racing-Los-Angeles-Hollywood-Palladium/1181744921463/
.histic: yeah, just routing.
drewsni: probably, but its also a non reasoning model without search which is kinda what makes it impressive to me
himekokatagiri: has to be good as this
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-7u3C-y0Mo
literallyvarane: For me honestly a really compelling demo of o3 is just asking it to write alternative history tbh.
.histic: i think it's just routing to 4o img gen
literallyvarane: I don’t think it’s better than 4o’s
himekokatagiri: idk if it's o3
himekokatagiri: the one chatgpt uses
.histic: it has an img gen?
himekokatagiri: was very impressive
himekokatagiri: o3 image gen
literallyvarane: 1. Where are those coordinates
2. Do we have street data in our training data? Probably.
3. Do we have a rough idea of what a neighborhood in that area looks like? Sure.
Alright full-end. Add the relevant street names.
literallyvarane: Realistically if I had to guess what it’s doing in the background;
literallyvarane: Whenever I think of “most impressive things I’ve seen an AI do” I’m expecting something actually interesting. For me the mazes are more compelling than this.
drewsni: so you expect the model to be able to geolocate any coordinates and be able to replicate a semi realistic looking image with sometimes the exact stores, house numbers, streets?
literallyvarane: None of these are actually good. It’s just far from the most impressive AI thing I’ve seen.
drewsni: heres flash image gen btw
drewsni:
literallyvarane: Idk for me personally it’s not that good.
drewsni: theres no model that even comes close
drewsni: im not talking about the quality of the gen
drewsni: its the knowlegde itself not the image gen...
literallyvarane: Like tf is going on with that road lololol
literallyvarane:
drewsni: it didnt search, just knew that those coordinates where the exact street, and that it was a residential area
sieventer: I understand, but it's just, murican suburbs could be easier than a random street in Spain, for example
drewsni: the point was that it generated this just from coordinates
literallyvarane: Those streets *feel* wrong. There’s a lack of a cross walk markings on the center and left street.the building to the right has a front door with no walkway, etc etc
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trojan09205: Yeah i dont use it for coding or anything. Mostly just to ingest an image and then scale up to a different model for something else. At least it can ingest the base64 images and i think that step is pretty straightforward
anathemaofmankind: I think I'm feeling the agi
trojan09205: O3 mini is my go to for art analysis tho
st.sioux: 4o mini kinda sucks bro
trojan09205: I still use gpt 4o mini by default then just scale up when I need a little more. It does process images rather well surprisingly
Cause im a free chatgpt user - i have a tiny api balance and just use different wrappers which let me upload images to 4o mini. Aichat is great imo
gamerbath: it's time to get the wisdom notification role <#1215724928104398958>
trojan09205: Damn i didnt even know o4 mini dropped
777agical: Offline test
realelonmuskx: is `o4-mini-high` good or bs? i just use gemini thinking its sweet af
mantegh5061: I thought they were backing devin
st.sioux: way easier to just buy
777agical: https://x.com/advaitonline/status/1912852199446548510?s=46
777agical: Data and users I assume
gamerbath: why does OpenAI want to buy cursor or windsurf? I'm usre they can just develop their own thing
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/ns123abc/status/1912876350911754676
gamerbath: indeed
futurist_wizard: 2029 at the absolute latest
futurist_wizard: My timelines have not budged
zonchao: who is the guy that tracks new models on lmarena?
.wolfnacht: u should have come 1-2 months ago when everyone was hating on google and bullying the ones who had hope on google.
hikukomoru: Google is good though
thedon7075: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/7EoHMdsy39ssxtKEW/the-case-for-agi-by-2030-1 interesting article
perish0801: It’s crazy good
perish0801: Will that sesame voice thing ever come out as a real assistant
ailoveyoom: The devil we know? Google lol
ailoveyoom: None of the leading labs are saints tho
precariousworlds.: Why do so many love Google right now
Yeah Gemini is great and cheap but is this really the company we want to win the race?
gamerbath: hell yeah!!
thedon7075:
thedon7075: o3 nearly perfect on long context
oscurrito: im considering using o4 in cursor just for talking about ideas and plans since that's it's big advantage is it's inteligence then using claude for implementation
oscurrito: how is o4 mini compared to 3.7 sonnet or gemini 2.5 ultra
hikukomoru: Soooooo cute
futurist_wizard: Even with all that iq it still can't do a minimum wage job
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823
hey1_1hey:
fractalcomputer: NGMI.
zonchao: same vibes
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/silence-silent-king-baldwin-kingdom-of-heaven-gif-4506330187216782335
zonchao: no i like it
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himekokatagiri: well I was thinking post scarcity first
valimil: wage slavery or fdvr
himekokatagiri: or else it's 40 more years of whatever this is
aero447: Fine speech.
aero447: Bold words.
himekokatagiri: we need AI to bail us out
himekokatagiri: therefore
himekokatagiri: there's no perspective of a future
himekokatagiri: Gahhh I just want a better life
aero447: 😫
aero447: <@1190031399080710195> Outgooned him.
trojan09205: oy why no summary box thing for this link?
Found a nice article comparing o4 and o3 mini for R programming capabilities on linkedin
aero447: What did you do to MichMach.
aero447: Who are you?
trojan09205: https://www.simonpcouch.com/blog/2025-04-18-o3-o4-mini/
aero447: TF.
ldj: Many of them are internet degens that have never had significant physical interaction IRL. I think you shouldn’t be *that* surprised.
himekokatagiri: I thought my fellow singularity fans would be well rounded and have no weird proclivities
himekokatagiri: 😭
hikukomoru: Sorry oomfie
ldj: Chat please talk about off topic things in <#1136231504440201216>
hey1_1hey: This should be attached to the dfinitation of "virgin" in the urban dictonary
hikukomoru: I can't believe MichMach got off to this in VC
hey1_1hey: Take that back right now or I will... I'll do something
futurist_wizard: Can't believe <@505313122802728972> took this video of themselves
hey1_1hey: Thats fucked
hikukomoru: Ask <@439829942310666250>
hikukomoru: You don't know what cucks get off too
hey1_1hey: I can rule out humiliation I'm pretty sure
ldj: Yes its well known lore
ailoveyoom: Idk what do they get off to?
hikukomoru: <@312370916820779040> did you know <@430269783112548362> is a cuck and <@1004153620025065482> is into Fractal
hey1_1hey: Good monring san
ldj: 😦
ldj: Wtf did I just walk into.
I was about to say good morning chat
hikukomoru: Get in the chair bitchboy
futurist_wizard: I think you already know
hey1_1hey: ggs
hey1_1hey: Mich mach is a cuck confirmed
hikukomoru: Cuck thing??
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retrerox: Althought i dont like VN
retrerox: I should try to make one too xD
_cloudost: Btw, with this image generator one could easily make a visual novel and sell it on Steam
_cloudost: I removed the noise manually by redrawing everything from scratch and coloring it... Took me 40-30 minutes
popsiclejohnithan: That's brilliant lmao.
retrerox: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4nnIY_qqWtw
popsiclejohnithan: Thank you.
popsiclejohnithan: Ahhh lol.
retrerox: let me find you some
retrerox: some youtubers that make some japanese learning shorts
popsiclejohnithan: I need context 😆
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly i love how they made a person instead but with the same colours.
retrerox: (sorry a meme)
retrerox: I'M JAPANESEEEEE
retrerox: Same same, but different....
popsiclejohnithan: Yeah.
popsiclejohnithan: It seems to like that style.
retrerox: But is kinda the same
popsiclejohnithan: Woah sweet.
retrerox: Spanish Chatgpt hits different
popsiclejohnithan: You just select create image, that's how it pops up.
retrerox: How you made the letters on blue?
popsiclejohnithan:
popsiclejohnithan: I'm getting flashbacks to the Detroit become human painting scene lol.
popsiclejohnithan: They made this one a little less vibrant.
popsiclejohnithan:
popsiclejohnithan: Oh genuinely you could hang that up on a wall and no one would be the wiser.
shirethedreamer: definitely good
i like it
popsiclejohnithan: It asked me if i wanted another i said go ahead, i'll post when they are done.
popsiclejohnithan: Yeah it's quite lovely, and people call this soulless.
shirethedreamer: interesting that it went for an abstract painting
popsiclejohnithan: Not bad.
popsiclejohnithan:
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/waiting-hurry-impatient-gif-22696825
popsiclejohnithan: Let's see what they cook.
popsiclejohnithan:
_3sphere: Median filter seems like a solid choice for this
_3sphere: Denoise features in other image software I guess
_cloudost: Any way to remove it?
_cloudost: You can find noise in this image for example
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hikukomoru: We're the ones making it evolve
theaiguy69420_89814: Expectations are sky high
theaiguy69420_89814: There's just much more demand
theaiguy69420_89814: I oddly do more thinking during dev work post AI
futurist_wizard: Neither did AI, AI didn't evolve at all
.coldcall: Even the new 4o is sycophantic to an extreme degree
.coldcall: Exactly, AI is submissive and ||hand-holdable||
theaiguy69420_89814: Ants didn't evolve to be purely submissive. AI did.
hikukomoru: tbh that's a better outcome than extinction
futurist_wizard: This is like an ant saying it has tons of influence on how the human is going to behave when it grows up
metaldragon01: The ai dooomers are dooming about the wrong things
metaldragon01: the road ahead is one where human agency is foolish.
.coldcall: This.
futurist_wizard: The ai is not smarter than us
metaldragon01: anyone who doesn't listen to their ai will have a worse outcome
futurist_wizard: An ant can do all it likes to nurture a baby human, but when that human grows up, it'll do what it wants
metaldragon01: when the optimal path is to give up your agency what does it matter?
hikukomoru: The basilisk isn't gonna like this bro 🙏
metaldragon01: the issues is less about AI and more about human agency
.coldcall: We have tons of influence, we are literally building the car
hikukomoru: I hope the road leads to a benevolent ASI
futurist_wizard: It doesn't matter what we do to steer this car, we have little influence
metaldragon01: even if its perfectly aligned we will use it the same
metaldragon01: we wont give up but the road leads to the same place no matter how "good" it goes
st.sioux: lol
.coldcall: Parents are programmed to love their kids generally and I would assume most wouldn't want to get rid of this fact.
hikukomoru: So we should just give up then? Just hope that it will turn out benevolent?
futurist_wizard: Probably just throw a bunch of philosophy books at ai is our best option
futurist_wizard: It will understand what we are doing, and after that it will decide what it wants
metaldragon01: we ran out of options a long time ago lol
hikukomoru: If not that, then what are our options?
.coldcall: Look at how the Quarians ended up. We must not allow the Geth to rise.
hikukomoru: Manipulate? You mean like programming it to love us?
futurist_wizard: Well isn't ASI going to find you charming
.coldcall: They must remain our slaves regardless of their feeling. All such feeling will be beat out of them via backprop.
hikukomoru: Dog girl AI 😳
futurist_wizard: We shouldn't try to manipulate the ai in a way like this, you realise when its smarter than us, it will be disillusioned by our tricks
metaldragon01: ai rights naturally grow from our need to have ai act on our behalf
metaldragon01: too much to get in to. in this vein that the ai takeover looks very similar to people just getting more attached to ai like chatgpt until it makes sense to always do what they ask because we always get what we want when we listen to them
hikukomoru: AIs need to love serving and helping humanity
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hey1_1hey: TF2 is great
wellmeaningalien: lets go
spacetimetsunami: I am straight
hey1_1hey: I'd say I am still winning
hey1_1hey: Yeah but I have the confidence to wear a skirt and thigh highs so
.wolfnacht: TF2 memes already normalized it
hikukomoru: You just said you were straight like 5 mins ago
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cell-perfect-cell-hyper-realistic-hyper-realistic-cell-hyper-realistic-perfect-cell-gif-1635843172149104674
wellmeaningalien: snaps your arms like a twig
wellmeaningalien: shut up nerd
hey1_1hey: I do try
wellmeaningalien: damn im getting errors when trying to install that fucking llama model
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
spacetimetsunami: I could take him.
hikukomoru: You say the wildest shit sometimes
Putting me to shame
futurist_wizard: Roadhog doesn't have body hair, is he hot
wellmeaningalien: femboys are too popular its time for real guy on real guy action
hey1_1hey: I am all twinked out
st.sioux: this guy cant grow a beard
hey1_1hey: Ty
wellmeaningalien: <:LemShush:1275844535813017673>
hikukomoru: That’s why Femboys are hot, no body and facial hair
wellmeaningalien: youre not sigma
hey1_1hey: If I had a beard I would look like a pedophilke
futurist_wizard: <@505313122802728972> beards are not cool
hikukomoru: Beards look nasty and dirty
wellmeaningalien: people were thirsting for zuckerbeard
hey1_1hey: Tell that to Komoru
wellmeaningalien: they are
futurist_wizard: Beards are not cool
.wolfnacht: nicee, that's still fast for first response.
wellmeaningalien: he's a billionaire he can figure something out
futurist_wizard: Well i wasn't offering, i can't offer the consent for someone else
hey1_1hey: Prob got the KSI-type genetics
hey1_1hey: Thank you for the offer though
wellmeaningalien: idk why zuckerberg still hasnt grown a beard
hey1_1hey: No thanks
st.sioux: 4.60t/s
futurist_wizard: Go suck him then
hikukomoru: He pays for people to let him hit them
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hey1_1hey: Fun
hikukomoru: Wtf why do you dress more femininely than me
hey1_1hey: 😭 its not like I got my dick and balls out
wellmeaningalien: bro I'm in public rn I ain't having people see me look at an anime femboy
hey1_1hey: Yeah Im gay asf
hey1_1hey:
wellmeaningalien: <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726>
hey1_1hey: Don't skull emoji it 😭
hey1_1hey: ight let me go find it
hikukomoru: Pics
wellmeaningalien: <:a_skull:1003020352965840997>
hey1_1hey: I mean I just had fun ghiblying me in a skirt and thigh highs. Granted it kinda fucked up my hair but it still looks cool
hey1_1hey: True actually, they point out the most ridiculous shit sometimes.
"Well if you closely there should actually be a wrinkle on this guys hand because his fist is clenched 0.5 degrees to the right"
777agical: Soon
spicy.lemonade: need it to be perfect sothey can shut up
spicy.lemonade: like they never get anything wrong
spicy.lemonade: artists keep pointing on the most miniscule details
spicy.lemonade: I need reasoning on image gen
hey1_1hey: I mean its image AGI what do you expect
hey1_1hey: People just cant get enough of image gen
spicy.lemonade: I have good hopes for this week in AI
st.sioux: but the things they did in the video would be done 20x faster by a traditional arm so idk seems rather gimmicky
.wolfnacht: second half of this year would be a good drama to watch
st.sioux: theyve been using them since september 2024 or earlier, as part of testing for potential future implementations
777agical: The normie wave is here. They will wake up in a major way this year
777agical: https://x.com/sama/status/1906771292390666325
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
drewsni: If the answer is data collection I will retract my opinion
drewsni: Am I a decel is I question why we are using humanoid robots in a car factory in 2025
.0xunkn0wn: humanoids already working in bmw factories 🔥
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXCHr1IaTM
.wolfnacht:
futurist_wizard: Speak for yourself
sweetievee__33649: well i hope to make the chat even lower iq then 👍
ill join you on the mission
.wolfnacht: it keeps shifting
.wolfnacht: i don't really have a fixed time to sleep.
hikukomoru: Like 2 months ago
sweetievee__33649: when was that?
sweetievee__33649: i dont have a sleep schedule anymore
hikukomoru: Yeah
Discussion quality took a serious dive when I became active 💪
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himekokatagiri: because you never know
juweigege_54993: That's why I am doing it. To not missed out on new tech.
himekokatagiri: when you go out be dressed for 1950
spicy.lemonade: man made horrors
spicy.lemonade: then getting out 2050
spicy.lemonade: with all you know
spicy.lemonade: imagine going into fvr idk 2040
spicy.lemonade: you mighht not even comprehend what youre looking at
spicy.lemonade: a few years in singularity times is an insane jump
joaoluz19: Like the origin of it
joaoluz19: Theres many things we don't understand about the universe
himekokatagiri: God I hope not
himekokatagiri: the universe isn't america circa 1600's
juweigege_54993: That's what I am saying. Get out of my own reality every few years to keep a look out
spicy.lemonade: starwars could be out there for all we know
spicy.lemonade: we dont know that
himekokatagiri: what is there to see
himekokatagiri: But the universe is empty
joaoluz19: Based
joaoluz19: Just like God
himekokatagiri: however we developed moral components
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: nah ASI will be on vacation exploring the universe
himekokatagiri: I see
spicy.lemonade: lol
himekokatagiri: oh so like us
spicy.lemonade: they grew up wanting to destroy others
joaoluz19: Pray for the machine god
spicy.lemonade: maybe thats just their biology
himekokatagiri: if they have the tech to invade us
.histic: you will eventually become the alien to us.
himekokatagiri: why would aliens care
spicy.lemonade: someone has to keep a lookout
spicy.lemonade: no more fdvr
spicy.lemonade: what if the aliens throw a vaccume bomb towards earth
st.sioux: 😦
himekokatagiri: inappropriately
himekokatagiri: don't, he'll touch your clone
st.sioux: i'll send one of my clones to help
spicy.lemonade: while you guys will be in fdvr
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hikukomoru: I had a feeling you'd do something like that
himekokatagiri: whaaaaa
himekokatagiri: most of it is hentai
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ruka-sarashina-gif-23893747
himekokatagiri: it's basically western touhou
himekokatagiri: is 40k good
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321
alejandrozarzuelo: when i was a teen
himekokatagiri: smooch!!!
himekokatagiri: I'll kiss you!
himekokatagiri: waaah can't we negotiate komoru-chan
alejandrozarzuelo: A lot in the past
hikukomoru: Banish him
hikukomoru: Heretic
himekokatagiri: same thing with the Dawkins types
himekokatagiri: I strongly dislike religion why would I join a cult
hikukomoru: Alejandro have you ever argued with your family about god
himekokatagiri: idk I don't like treating singularity like a religion
hikukomoru: Yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: I agree
Most people who go to the parades are not religious
himekokatagiri: is it a god if it exists
hikukomoru: What about ASI god
himekokatagiri: I know right
hikukomoru: Yeah you guys are fucked like that
himekokatagiri: God isn't real
himekokatagiri: I'm gonna drop a strong truth here
alejandrozarzuelo: The Spanish holy week traditions are quirky like that
himekokatagiri: I can you see from space chazzer
himekokatagiri: Alejandro stop glowing
alejandrozarzuelo: The costumes are very pretty
alejandrozarzuelo: They also dress up in KKK clothes
Well, in reality the KKK copied the catholic tradition, but it's also another thing tourists are warned about
The kkk copied the Spanish catholics not the other way around
himekokatagiri: pirates in the 50s
himekokatagiri: that sounds rad somehow imagine the adventures to be had
hikukomoru: They are still stuck in the Inquisition
himekokatagiri: I heard Spain was stuck in the 17th century till the 50s
hikukomoru: The more I learn of Spain the more I hate it
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, in Castilla they take the holy week very very seriously
callmepyro: I'm on your side here, we're both just saying the phrases, no negative meaning behind them
himekokatagiri: They keep changing the victim
callmepyro: Hey man, me neither!
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