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ailoveyoom: I mean still cool tho, was this what you wanted to see from Veo?
fractalcomputer: Oh don't you go citing Alejandro. Just because I actually fucking ask you to evince your beliefs beyond the vaguest notions of "someone else said so" does not make conversation with me any more difficult than with any other person off the street.
.histic: i'll try again
.histic: <@430269783112548362> wait, you said distinct <:LOL:1187460826572005436> nvm
spicy.lemonade: yeah
hikukomoru: You're just a contrarian
hikukomoru: This why arguing with you is so bothersome lol
spicy.lemonade: any idea you come up with would have been based on what someone else has already done
fractalcomputer: If you do not think that it is a fallacy, you should provide reasonable causes to believe that one can draw veridical knowledge from these figures.
.histic: 4o img gen
hikukomoru: https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/36228/is-one-commiting-the-argument-from-authority-fallacy-and-or-the-consensus-fal
metaldragon01: And you should stop pretending that you do tbh
metaldragon01: Yiu have no idea how any of this works
spicy.lemonade: you cant make a completly new game either
fractalcomputer: Where did you find that quote? From Reddit? I mean, we can bicker about the definition of the fallacy all day, but appealing to its definition will not help your case.
metaldragon01: It can make a new game
metaldragon01: Lol
metaldragon01: One of those
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 literally can
literallyvarane: So… you can’t reason?
fractalcomputer: Common sense typically does not embody the heights of normative logic.
hikukomoru: > The argument from authority (Latin: argumentum ad verecundiam) also appeal to authority, is a common argument form which can be fallacious, such as when an authority is cited on a topic outside their area of expertise or when the authority cited is not a true expert.
spicy.lemonade: its common sense
spicy.lemonade: this isnt an appeal to authority fallacy
fractalcomputer: "An argument from authority[a] is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority figure (or figures) is used as evidence to support an argument.[1]"
cmtclx: or the website or whatever
cmtclx: im lazy too
sometimes id benefit from using AI more but im just too lazy to open the app
spicy.lemonade: i dont get the point. we have 3 nobel prize winners and various labs with the best researchers on earth vs opinion of 1 guy on discord
hikukomoru: Because that's the definition of that fallacy so there is no need to expand my point.
cmtclx: feels ;/
.histic: exactly.
even if you had knowledge of billions of chess games that doesn't mean you'll be a great chess player. that's not how it works.
LLMs are the contrary, they don't just retain, they train.
ailoveyoom: Lazy 😔
fractalcomputer: Now you are only restating your point. That is not an argument for your case.
st.sioux: It would not be authority if it was some random guy
metaldragon01: We are
fractalcomputer: Humans are surprisingly versatile.
hikukomoru: Because the authorities in question are relevant to the field. It would only be a fallacy if he quoted some random guy unrelated to AI instead.
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: can you beat the best chess player?
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gamerbath: transformers are a beutiful form of art, I hope we can agree on this
alejandrozarzuelo: this definition is shit, because it defines art as something human
fuhulootogan: definition?
fuhulootogan: do you want to appeal to this?
alejandrozarzuelo: and it has created an emotional response on you
alejandrozarzuelo: it was intentional
alejandrozarzuelo: its still art
alejandrozarzuelo: a sad song makes you sad
fuhulootogan: lets sort this out
fuhulootogan: uhh
fuhulootogan: wait
alejandrozarzuelo: an emotional response
fuhulootogan: what
alejandrozarzuelo: AI art is art by the extremely simple definition of intentionality and pleasure
(when i say pleasure i mean the broad sense of the word, a piece of art that makes you cry or angry or whatever counts as such)
fuhulootogan: depends on your intentions
fuhulootogan: i want to be on the same page as you
fuhulootogan: define "aesthetic pleasure"
alejandrozarzuelo: you can create a lot of stuff that doesnt have the intention to create aesthetic pleasure, so it is not art
fuhulootogan: right so context matters
alejandrozarzuelo: creation is not important to art, intentionality is
alejandrozarzuelo: because there is intention and there is aesthetic pleasure
alejandrozarzuelo: but when i ask chatgpt to make a ghiblified version of myself, that is art
fuhulootogan: also they're not really "creating" it
alejandrozarzuelo: sure, if they dont then its just another use of AI
fuhulootogan: its not bound to just that
fuhulootogan: thats assuming they wanted to do it to create aesthetic pleasure
abundantliving_: Are all bananas art?
alejandrozarzuelo: the person who commanded the AI to do it did it with the intention of creating aesthetic pleasure
fuhulootogan: of an AI
fuhulootogan: the intentions
fuhulootogan: you can't really assume
fuhulootogan: yeah uh
fuhulootogan: thats silly
alejandrozarzuelo: -intentional
-aesthetic pleasure
ergo its art
fuhulootogan: you're not "stealing" someones knowledge
fuhulootogan: you use references and watch tutorials all the time to develop your skill
alejandrozarzuelo: it fulfills the only 2 requisites for art
fuhulootogan: but IMO ai isn't stealing
alejandrozarzuelo: it is art
alejandrozarzuelo: therefore
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spicy.lemonade: when released
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2 pro will be insane
brain4brain: ?
brain4brain: Giving the whole video to Gemini’s right now, 700,000 tokens is wild
spicy.lemonade: sheesh
spicy.lemonade: bro is always ready to doom
brain4brain: And then it explain in a clear way to me
brain4brain: Exactly, I was so confused at first that I have to give it to ChatGPT
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I’ve realized that now
destrucules: By "I suspect we'll have to figure out new models" he's talking about economic models, not AI models
spacetimetsunami: Makes more sense
spacetimetsunami: Oh okay yeah
spacetimetsunami: Oh you watched the vid
spicy.lemonade: hes talking about new models of society
spicy.lemonade: hes not talking about new AI models
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, basically there’s been nothing in history to ever happened that might help us make decisions about what to do about them being like that. They will be entities.
Don’t have the context but he’s probably talking about other models, talking about super alignment even, perhaps
oooooooooog: obviously
oooooooooog: he's saying AGI imminent
.histic: wake me up in 1-2 months.
.histic: AI slumber
brain4brain:
brain4brain: https://fxtwitter.com/slow_developer/status/1903421705491468798?s=61
shadyjakey: bet
brain4brain: For Jailbreak prompt and prompting server: Pliny server
For more technical AI: ElutherAI
For more general server: OpenAI official server
shadyjakey: Seems a little silly lol
st.sioux: maybe ai-creations?
shadyjakey: I guess there are none?
brain4brain: https://fxtwitter.com/biogridgame/status/1903239650883355075?s=61
shadyjakey: Or like good prompting servers
shadyjakey: I was gonna ask about where I could share prompts I make
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shy-hi-gif-25532260
brain4brain: Hi
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
shadyjakey: Oh also screen2gif, best gif app ever
shadyjakey: The animation is made by someone else
shadyjakey: Yep, raw frames in photoshop
zoermena: What software do you use for that stuff is it like photoshop?
shadyjakey: Thanks I made it myself
zoermena: Your profile picture is sick
shadyjakey: Hello
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st.sioux: there are a lot of bots on X
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/tyrion-lannister-game-of-thrones-go-t-season5-puke-gif-4050714
fractalcomputer: Thought Leadership in AI for Humanity's Next Leap?
spicy.lemonade: Likeley going to be more like Twitter
spicy.lemonade: It’s sora
spicy.lemonade: They already have this
fractalcomputer: What is with these nonsensical accounts in the replies of every relatively popular tweet?
zoermena: So Thursday
spicy.lemonade: Yes
abundantliving_: 9gag 😂
abundantliving_: If images can be posted . We might have text as well . Otherwise it will text on images
abundantliving_: Or pinterest
abundantliving_: I hope it's not completely like imgur
abundantliving_: Then it will become x
abundantliving_: Then some comment will be very popular
st.sioux: it will be a vibe-based social media
abundantliving_: Someone will need to comment on the images
drewsni: Image mainly? So not trying to take on X lol
zoermena: That’s the date for the release of the new o models?
spicy.lemonade: 2 days till agi
abundantliving_: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912172587452350708
sieventer: https://aistudio.google.com/app/plan_information -> you can check here for other models
(it doesn't appear 2.5 Pro, wtf)
drewsni: Yeah it’s really fucking annoying lol I use like $2-3 a day in api but I don’t know how much of that is from just ai studio usage or my normal flash scrips
sieventer: Well, that's for Flash
sieventer:
st.sioux: and no way of knowing which is which
st.sioux: but i also have other apis running
st.sioux: it only shows billing and after 1 day
drewsni: O1 is 100k
st.sioux: i have no clue really, there is also no way to tell because cloud console doesn't tell you
drewsni: So it is paid after the 25 uses on Ai studio?
sieventer: If I choose 2.0 Flash it says 8k output
sieventer: I assume so, the settings of 2.5 Pro is by default 65k output lenght tokens
sieventer: Really? I don't understand, I yapp a lot with it but... I don't reach the limit.
777agical: does that model lead with the most output tokens?
st.sioux: i hit it everyday :/ it's getting expensive
himekokatagiri: goddamn they still didn't open Veo 2 up
sieventer: I use it everyday and I never get the rate limit of 2.5 Pro tbh
sieventer: [2.5 Pro]
sieventer:
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hikukomoru: Are you sure you're using native image gen
hey1_1hey: The pfp is accurate to real life aswell
hikukomoru: Wtf that looks nothing like my pfp
hey1_1hey: 💀
.histic: but i'd say Flux is better than Aurora (Grok's image gen).
.histic: it's not as good
_cloudost: Unlucky 😔
metaldragon01: Go test it on poe
_cloudost: Lots of people hyped it
_cloudost: What about Flux
hey1_1hey: I asked for another image from 4o expeting nothing and it said what I expected, try again in 6 hours when you have more uses. So I just said I dont mind and I think it should do it now and now its generating
.histic: dalle is old
this is something big & special
_cloudost: Just 3 seconds
_cloudost: thought it was like Dalle
hey1_1hey: I just found a lil something
futurist_wizard: Bruv
futurist_wizard: Takes a while
.histic: nah, it just be like that
.histic: i wish 4o were more consistent when handling references. when i say to just edit some aspects of the image i provide, it usually ends up drastically changing the overall look. this mostly happens with anime images.
_cloudost: Why does generating an image with OpenAI's native image generator take so long? Is it cuz I'm not premium User?
hikukomoru: Fuck this
hikukomoru: Everyone has native image gen but me
otub:
.histic: recent article
https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/the-real-story-behind-sam-altman-firing-from-openai-efd51a5d
drewsni: It’s probably because I archived 5k videos like a week ago but the issue just started today
hey1_1hey: Well theres my recomendation out the window
drewsni: Wonder if they put me on a temp restriction
drewsni: Not sure what’s going on, even if I fetch fresh cookies I can’t download YouTube videos either
drewsni: It’s all browsers but also discord
hey1_1hey: Is it a browser issue or youtube?
drewsni: Speaking of that. I can’t play any embed YouTube videos because of cookies issues right now
hey1_1hey: They aren't accpeiting new sign ups right now and you cant log in either
hey1_1hey: God forbid you clear your cookies 💀
drewsni: Maybe they just had it at 4 because half the gen’s failed the first day
.histic: only 2
.histic: yeah, it's there, but you can't enable it
drewsni: You used to be able to gen 4 outputs
.histic: wdym? 🤔
drewsni: Wait they nerfed it from 4? 🙀
.histic: use sora.com
better rate limits, less refuals. and you get 2 outputs instead of just one.
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trojan09205: it's a squarespace website lol
.wolfnacht: nah convo's on this server are still better than other AI servers
technocake.: I mean that it wasn't anywhere near the quality of situational awareness, although that also can't be relied upon
trent_k: alejandro, and his special interest is arguing
fractalcomputer: And who would be the most?
trent_k: I think I might be the least autistic person here
trent_k: nothing ever happens
vancebeliever: What is a prediction that can be relied upon
fractalcomputer: but it was well-researched lol (I assume you are not autistic.)
trojan09205: interesting thanks. checking out the site now
they use https://docs.uploadthing.com for part of their backend
technocake.: it's somewhat plausible but my no means a prediction that can be relied upon
technocake.: yeah I feel that, saviour fic
trent_k: ai-2027.com
basically speculative fiction about the potential near future of AI. I was unimpressed by it
trojan09205: i dont follow any AI news lol
trojan09205: what is this infamous thing everyone is talking about
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not autistic <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
alejandrozarzuelo: What? No?
trent_k: Feels a little bit like Daniel was writing some self-insert fanfic
trent_k: I read that ai-2027 thing
trent_k: Unrelated but
trent_k: I'm coping and seething that my bot project didn't piss off as many redditors as the university one did
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842
hey1_1hey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aN4Xg0VvCs I said to myself before watching the video "This has an 80% chance to be <@1068159407671754824>" doing all of this and turns out it wasn't <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: Except if it's about gay furry orgies
himekokatagiri: I'm burned out
himekokatagiri: I don't do that either
fractalcomputer: It's not healthy to be that autistic.
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't usually read or watch fiction, so...
.wolfnacht: 🍿 🎥, 2027's gonna be fun
himekokatagiri: you look like youtuber sepi
zonchao: joanne dodging the real questions
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-dodge-gif-22809594
ailoveyoom: 🍿 😈
ailoveyoom:
zonchao: masa will save him
trent_k: altman must be fucking FUMING
trojan09205: NHL playoff tickets are also mad cheap
zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1917603836992106749 it is over for sama
zoermena: Time to finance a McDonald’s burger
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/jesse-pinkman-jesse-pinkman-crying-jesse-pinkman-screaming-jesse-pinkman-andrea-jesse-crying-gif-25171987
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spicy.lemonade: Facts
spicy.lemonade: They provide substantial amount of data
spicy.lemonade: Their predictions are better than any of ours
spicy.lemonade: Infact
spicy.lemonade: Ngl I don't see anything wrong with this
retrerox: Can i use cursos with gemini?=
sarik0497: That’s true, and was sort of a mixed bag. However, it depends a lot on where you’re, I think. If you told any of my friends that you were talking to an AI, they’d put you into that category of being a lonely guy with no one else to talk to.
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/her-movie-her-movie-gif-joaquin-phoenix-gif-12506377
sarik0497: It does to some extent. It shows an understanding of the environment that they’re talking about.
In the same vein, you also believe the predictions of experts in a specific field more than some random Joe. It doesn’t mean that their word is law and a certainty, but it does give them more credence.
trojan09205: I ask it what im looking at and then just chat with it. It has a nice agentic backend you can set reminders and other stuff too
Ask it to play a song
trojan09205: I also like just chatting with llama on my face lmao
trojan09205: I had a $300 gift certificate at macys i got at work so i didnt throw down much
drewsni: i got them and dont use them lol
trojan09205: Bruh i went to go buy a new pair of sunglasses and theyre all mad expensive anyways
So i got sold on the meta raybans haha 😂
trojan09205: I also like taking videos of birds and nature
trojan09205:
shirethedreamer: lmao yeah thats pretty conservative 😆
trojan09205: Definitely as regular sunglasses and headphones
himekokatagiri: such technology and they put it in a frame designed in the 50s
shirethedreamer: oh nice
i dont know anyone that got those
whats your number one use?
trojan09205: Kind of looks like that
trojan09205: Yeah broo
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/roy-orbison-guitar-black-and-white-gif-13829619
trojan09205: Theyre wayfarer style transitional sunglasses with cameras microphone and speakers and a llama model
himekokatagiri: this guy
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/buddy-holly-the-crickets-headbang-oh-boy-ed-sullivan-show-gif-24774095
trojan09205: Lol wat
himekokatagiri: the buddy holly glasses?
trojan09205: I like my meta raybans a lot
zonchao: a step in the right direction but still "the more a human played a role in a film's creation, the better"
himekokatagiri: I'm growing it out so I can do a pompadour
himekokatagiri: yeah usually I just end up with the dumb & dumber hair
zoermena: I’ve thought of it but I haven’t, I suck at combing my hair so I just use my body moisturizer.
himekokatagiri: anyone using AI for hair pomade tips 😭
zoermena: If I had the money I would buy one right now. My favorite feature I think is the spatial photos and videos. I would like to remember deceased SOs in that format.
shirethedreamer: didnt try them yet
but just judging from the other vr glasses i tried over the years its advancing way faster than i thought
zoermena: Albeit the other features are just way to good, have you tried it? It’s like Star Trek I swear <:startrek:1334027709541777460>
futurist_wizard: I wouldn't mind vocally talking to future AI though, as that would be funny
shirethedreamer: yeah its a bit goofy right now
but i think they are taking it in the right direction
its just that the tech just needs a couple more years of maturing
futurist_wizard: I'd rather be lonely than use a chatbot
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spicy.lemonade: but to them it was right on time
spicy.lemonade: they pushed it up
spicy.lemonade: we wouldhave said
spicy.lemonade: if they dropped earlier
spicy.lemonade: in fact
ldj: Okay I found previous timeframe comments about GPT-5.
Sama said in mid-feb about 6 weeks ago: “months” for GPT-5.
Now about 6 weeks later he’s saying it’s still “months”
These are both consistent with releasing towards late 2025.
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/lhJ5X8wLYVJ.gif
spicy.lemonade: end of year
spicy.lemonade: we had no idea when theyd drop and we alreadya ssumed
spicy.lemonade: not a delay
spicy.lemonade: but externally
spicy.lemonade: its a delay internally
literallyvarane: If this was on the SAT and you said it wasn’t a delay you’d fail the question.
literallyvarane: Clearly it’s a delay my guy what are we even doing here lol
literallyvarane:
darkstar0818: If you want to believe this isn't a delay, I am fine with that.
ldj: If they did then please show me
ldj: They didn’t say any timeline previously that is mutually exclusive to the current GPT-5 timeline
spicy.lemonade: so august
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will likeley launch before the new school year
futurist_wizard:
literallyvarane:
spicy.lemonade: july min
spicy.lemonade: like
spicy.lemonade: i didnt expect gpt 5 until
ldj: I think you’re reading too much into things tbh, they never even say any word that is synonymous with “delay” in that post
spicy.lemonade: not crazy delay
ldj: Yea I don’t see it
spicy.lemonade: eh
literallyvarane: This is CLEARLY a delay lolol
darkstar0818: when they first announced GPT5 they gave a rough timeline when it would hit.
ldj: Even I’ve been saying since last year that GPT-5 is likely not coming until late 2025
literallyvarane: It’s surely a delay tbh
ldj: When did they ever say it would come sooner than 3 months from now?
literallyvarane: Presumably at least
ldj: Hmm I didn’t gather that implication personally
spicy.lemonade: we expected this
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 in a few months
literallyvarane: Grok3 is the comp, and it’s much cheaper than that
joaoluz19: https://x.com/karpathy/status/1908109168952676855
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anathemaofmankind: Intersex are only 2% of the population.
I'll make an exception then too because its genetic
futurist_wizard: My tattoo lady was very hot
ailoveyoom: Identity is scary and hard, paradoxically some people might feel more comfortable if they have a 'role' within society (as dictated by their gender).
trojan09205: She was super nice i gave her a great review on facebook
And for a first time piercer im glad i went there. Very professional clean studio and they only sell at least titanium or gold pieces and she walked me through it all very nicely
ailoveyoom: Tbh I think norms and roles should be taken more as a suggestion
futurist_wizard: She sounds like a nice person, she probably wasn't
trojan09205: Lol 😂
trojan09205: Is it wrong for me to assume shes a lesbian
futurist_wizard: Nice, fuck her in the nice way
hikukomoru: How do you refer to intersex people
trojan09205: No the opposite
futurist_wizard: My bad
futurist_wizard: I thought you said she was saying it wouldn't be acceptable for you to get certain ones
futurist_wizard: I misread your message
futurist_wizard: Oh wait
trojan09205: She was great though. I explained i wanted like a simple heteronormative stud and she got it lol. But i think she felt compelled to say what she said it was actually cute though
anathemaofmankind: Lol
futurist_wizard: Fuck her
trojan09205: The piercing lady
futurist_wizard: Who did
trojan09205: I went to get a piercing like a few weeks ago and i told her i wanted something more masculine and she gave me a short but polite speech about masculinity being relative lol
artemisfowl887394: Lol. That's probably because you forget to blink.
anathemaofmankind: I'm a sex absolutist. I don't care about ppl gender, I will refer to you by DNA and your biological makeup. The exception is if they're hot and I can't tell any difference.
Of course if gene editing becomes a thing then the distinction becomes irrelevant
trojan09205: But do you actually like animals my bro
futurist_wizard: There's different forms of it, but I'm in favour of removing gender norms and roles from society e.g (men & women behave like this, wear this or that, **should** be doing such and such) but im still in favour of keeping the sex categories
ailoveyoom: I'm not 😇
fractalcomputer: No, I enter their presence and I immediately get bad eye.
trojan09205: Love that. Ive been sleeping with my two dogs as well its super cute
trojan09205: Do you ever just get down low and wait for them to approach you and kind of be standoffish til they make contact
hikukomoru: Yesss
There is no better feeling in the world for me than waking up with my two babies sleeping on top of my chest
fractalcomputer: Most animals are spooked by my presence. I wonder why that is.
trojan09205: Cuddles with fur friends is legit something you can thank the universe for being alive to enjoy
trojan09205: Appreciate you
hikukomoru: Cutie
I'm currently cuddling with my cats in bed
zonchao: never forget 🦅
trojan09205: I was just calling her a doge being non funny haha
trojan09205: Yeah its storm great memory homie G
zonchao: is that her name...i thought it was storm or something
hikukomoru: What's a gender abolitionist
trojan09205: I mean its fair perspective if youre consistent
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.histic: i thought bezos own NYT, but it was the Washington post..
himekokatagiri: you're never gonna see any publication defend AI
himekokatagiri: because it's gonna replace them
himekokatagiri: journalists hate AI
himekokatagiri: NYT is bad cause they're journalists
.histic: wait nvm
himekokatagiri: bezos?
himekokatagiri: it thought it up for 3 minutes
.histic: do you think bezos touched you?
himekokatagiri: but it didn't work.
himekokatagiri: anyhow I decided to use 2.5
.histic: y?
himekokatagiri: I tried probe
.histic: yeah, it's a weird word to think about
himekokatagiri: I feel dirty just by using the NYT website
metaldragon01: I do agree that o5 should be the minimum level to start seeing some human level ood performance
himekokatagiri: it was OZONE
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metaldragon01: Haven't seen any evidence of visual reasoning scaling yet tbh. At least not significantly so.
brain4brain: O5 will likely be enough for LLM side, and visual reasoning progress will be exponential, it will be solved very soon
metaldragon01: It might be the largest bottleneck left tbh
metaldragon01: The visual and llm reasoning out of distribution will need to ve exceptional. Even if we reach it on the llm side this year (unlikely) I have little confidence in visual reasoning getting the same leap
.histic: think harder
brain4brain: We are already 5% there
metaldragon01: Not happening in 25. 90% is a lot more than you think it is.
himekokatagiri: this is too hard
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
brain4brain: Last year, we went from o1 to o3 in the last 3 months, have faith
brain4brain: Able to automate 90% of all digital job and research
himekokatagiri: i am trying
.histic: <@286319745777795092> try harder
metaldragon01: What's your definition of agi?
clevermoniker: nope, 1/3 done and nowhere near your side yet
brain4brain: It’s highly plausible and likely
brain4brain: It’s on my side
Nekotina#0608: Page **1** of **7**
.histic: it isn't hard 2 find
himekokatagiri: gee fine give me the link
metaldragon01: 25 isn't impossible. Unlikely but not impossible
himekokatagiri: I hate puzzles
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frittata: When the shoe is on the other foot …
fractalcomputer: I do not think that somewhere out there, Lie groups create the universe while dancing to the beat of mad drums and the thin whining of monotonous flutes beyond the nethermost outposts of space and time; do you, Alejandro?
spicy.lemonade: this is hella funny. most programmers are pro AI art. but against AI coding. Most artists are pro AI coding but against AI art
maintcrew: Incredibly wrong
frittata: … I hope
frittata: Nobody puts their soul in their code
frittata: Little less so though
frittata: Can I just add that I feel for the thousands of tech analysts and coders that’ve gotten cut in the last year in favor of AI also
anathemaofmankind: "Learn to code" mfers when their desk jobs get automated instead of random truck drivers
maintcrew: the boring coding job is art for some people
maintcrew: i think the art world is more likely to be filled with empathetic people that go on off vibes and therefore dont like this automation
spicy.lemonade: "can we do all the boring jobs no one wants to do like coding and deskjobs"
fractalcomputer: Many things are true when you assume them to be true, Alejandro.
frittata: Art is no employment program, because no one is handing artists jobs. It is employment, full stop, for those that can fight hard enough to create a space for themselves there
spicy.lemonade: "its ok as long as it doesnt effect me"
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont agree, but thats a difference in attitude between you and me I guess
frittata: Employment *problem* is the statement he should’ve gone for if he wanted that
maintcrew: I dont get how "we will automate your job and put you on ubi" is fine for people who do real work but all of a sudden too out of pocket for artists
spicy.lemonade: hes agreeing with roon but adds that some artists see creativity as a means of employment
alejandrozarzuelo: I am sure i have read something about any intelligence model be able to be captured in a mathematical framework
which if you think about it it must obviously be true since we assume that the entire universe can be described by physics (which is a mathematic model)
frittata: Well maybe his English just isn’t up to par because “employment program” sounds like a handout which may not be his intent
frittata: Hate to see him belittling his opponents, it’s not like him
maintcrew: It is exactly what you said
frittata: No one thinks that Joscha
frittata: “An employment program” my ass
fractalcomputer: Stupid positions should be mocked, no? Besides, there are no positions here.
frittata: The tweet is reductive and dismissive
ailoveyoom: I feel like the word art itself is kinda vague tbh. Idek what it means. I think slop can still be art, it's just art I don't like lol. Just like how I don't get abstract art.
anathemaofmankind: Yes
frittata: Hate the sin not the sinner <:smirk:1303825263208955904>
shirethedreamer: i agree with your position
but thats just a belief on my part
its 100% not something proven
frittata: No
maintcrew: **taps the sign**
https://x.com/Plinz/status/1905353026527019059
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: can I atleast hate artists that are anti ai
frittata: We ain’t gotta be the villains here
frittata: We can be pro AI art without being anti artist
anathemaofmankind: Yeah but that also means an observer can dismiss the meaning you intended to make, because it was made by AI.
So it doesn't matter anyway
frittata: When we mock the very thing they’ve built a life on - often a life of a lot of ~~decoration~~ dedication lol and effort spent on finding what appeals to others and what they themselves can enjoy creating, a hard line to walk - guys it’s not a good look
alejandrozarzuelo: thats ok, you do mock people often when you disagree with their positions
I will try to look where i read this
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futurist_wizard:
st.sioux: didnt catch that
st.sioux: oh wait no nvm it says released dates for already released models
wellmeaningalien: this model got gemini 3.0 pro, gpt 5 and the open source model but it still forgot that its supposed to predict upcoming models and not models already out
futurist_wizard: Don't berate the ai
theaiguy69420_89814: Anyone here use windsurf
futurist_wizard: Its trying its best
retrerox: i just dont know what to grab xd
retrerox: there is a lot of info
st.sioux: so it is stupid
wellmeaningalien: ok so
wellmeaningalien: are there more?
retrerox: Well i got this table
wellmeaningalien: just the crux of it
wellmeaningalien: just tell me what models it lists out
retrerox: Idk if u would like me to print this in pdf so u read it or idk
wellmeaningalien: its good that its focusing on q2 onwards
wellmeaningalien: so what are the cores of its prediction
wellmeaningalien: uhhh lot of yap not bad i guess
wellmeaningalien: anyway enough basics
wellmeaningalien: you can especially see this with models like gpt 2 or gpt 3 as they were next word predictors in the pure sense of it as in if it completed text from what you would put in it
so essentially you'd tell it "the american flag is red, white and" and gpt 2 would guess "blue"
retrerox: it gave me this info and way more info if i scroll down
wellmeaningalien: and what llms are doing are large neural networks that learn from mass sums of text to predict what text would fit a sentence
wellmeaningalien: thats just that
wellmeaningalien: essentially tokens are words
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: its the core of what llms do
retrerox: in the meantime let me know while this shit is being done
wellmeaningalien: 💀
retrerox: what does token prediction means?
wellmeaningalien: i think gemini 2.5 pro is faster but cant expect it to be like 1 minute fast
wellmeaningalien: yeah i mean iirc o3 deep research takes like 30 minutes
retrerox: apparenrtly
retrerox: its still researching
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177111856813449250/1353637474798407701/attachment-3.gif
retrerox: i mean
wellmeaningalien: im sorry for you
futurist_wizard: I am very nice to everyone
wellmeaningalien: imagine not being a hater
wellmeaningalien: its fun
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futurist_wizard: Probably will go again sometime
futurist_wizard: I have been to finland and it was a nice place
hey1_1hey: Let me go check aswell
oooooooooog: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136231504440201216/1140938362996391936
wellmeaningalien: i wonder if i have access to 4o image gen now
hey1_1hey: Thats pretty tame for me
futurist_wizard: Most common phrase said by finnish people:
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-drinking-steve-harvey-head2seoker-drinking-party-gif-5069515457533912064
a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358> Komoru your favorite femboy
hey1_1hey: Have you considered Jesus Christ?
hikukomoru: Freaky ass mf
wellmeaningalien: It pays the bills 🤑
oooooooooog: what proof
hey1_1hey: I gotta go farm karma hol up
fractalcomputer: I need alcohol.
hey1_1hey: big ol dep
inferno0879: i might need a career change
wellmeaningalien: eep
wellmeaningalien: Thats soo dep
wellmeaningalien: 650 bucks to be exact
hey1_1hey: Theres a word for that you know
Philosopher
hikukomoru: 30 year autistic philosophy nerd
inferno0879: how much do they pay you
st.sioux: Same thing
wellmeaningalien: No I'm a professional idiot
hikukomoru: Ban this guy
fractalcomputer: Are you an applied mathematician?
a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358> is he your favorite femboy
hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358>
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/grammar-police-drift-police-car-gif-17312786
oooooooooog: fractal 9999 wpm typer confirmed??
hey1_1hey: I haven't heard from Zonny mommy recently. Where he at
futurist_wizard: Thank you teacher
wellmeaningalien: Whats up bitches
oooooooooog: that was so fast ???
hikukomoru: Sorry daddy
futurist_wizard: Exactly
fractalcomputer: Komoru, don't call other users "bitches."
hikukomoru: Shut up bitch
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
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_cloudost: Does anyone in this server have Veo 2 yet?
.wolfnacht: they should have done it before, now i would be rather use quasar than grok. but ig elon removed the rate limits on grok.com/chat bcz i haven't hit any, today yet.
.wolfnacht: nope that was instant, maybe it's because of video gen model
_cloudost: Did Gemini 2.5 get rolled out slowly too?
.wolfnacht: they are rolling it our slowly...ig
_cloudost: Nice... Need it right fucking now before I do the unimaginable
.wolfnacht: this was off veo 2
.wolfnacht: But holy shittt
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: nope, google's pretty unfair
_cloudost: Have u ?
_cloudost: Not yet
destrucules: Grok 3 API came out
.wolfnacht: <@590577270926868480> got the veo 2 in AI studio ?
floortom_9: What are the no. Of queries for gemini 2.5 pro deep research fr advanced users?
okbut: https://apnews.com/article/chinese-beijing-honeypot-spies-diplomat-agent-intelligence-c077ef57b0f7ae43dd0db41bea92238b
brain4brain: Chubby always repackaged real things and overhype it and turn it into slop, never liked that account
But the paper is real
brain4brain: https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.02495
spicy.lemonade: Cap
3ds0662: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1909959230112624765?s=46
spicy.lemonade: i sleep
spicy.lemonade: wont be sota
spicy.lemonade: sigh
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 🙏
destrucules: So tomorrow morning presumably
destrucules: Supposedly Qwen3 in "hours"
spicy.lemonade: better see multiple drops tmr
spicy.lemonade: nothing dropped this week
rayanquitplayin: Ok thank you
destrucules: 400 billion parameters (weights and biases - the numbers that determine the "code" of a model) and 1 million tokens of context, meaning the model can ingest just under 1 million tokens of text input and still produce meaningful output based on that input.
rayanquitplayin: What does the 400B and 1m context mean?
ailoveyoom: Then he'll see it when he's awake 😤
ailoveyoom: Or they could be a stealth lab 🥺
.histic: he's too busy sipping margaritas in his waymo getaway car.
also, he might be 😴 now.
.histic: and the first tweet was on April 6th, with Quasar model dropping days before that. seems like they’re just grifters trying to ride the hype.
ailoveyoom: <@312370916820779040> Is this guy legit
ailoveyoom: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
.histic: (that tweet is their first tweet)
.histic: also, that guys account is very suspect.
https://x.com/SILXLAB/status/1909007813784838397
and this claim, "We trained the 400B model at less cost than most SOTA models that goes less than $100K.
Thanks to our Token Temperature Mechanism, we improved attention over long contexts allowing us to scale context without losing accuracy."
is also.. not believable.
i'm not LLM expert, but for a small startup to do that.. you'd expect it to make the news.
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spicy.lemonade: "These discoveries were based on
using OpenAI’s latest reasoning model o3-mini-high to
exactly solve the q = 3 case"
fractalcomputer: Well, it very much looks like a line or two in the abstract and the screenshot you shared.
spicy.lemonade: they even say that
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: its literaly the basis of the whole paper
spicy.lemonade: its not a line or 2
spicy.lemonade: ?
fractalcomputer: Yes, if by aided you mean provided a line or two that managed to be correct enough to make it into the paper.
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: A pot that has become very angry
spicy.lemonade: nice
spicy.lemonade: hasnt been solved in 50 years
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: but did major part of proof
spicy.lemonade: yes aided
spicy.lemonade: the proof is there
spicy.lemonade: wdym hardly so
fractalcomputer: Hardly so.
brain4brain: They were off by a few years, it will be 2025/2026:
https://x.com/xixidu/status/1874955840702255236?s=61
spicy.lemonade: non trivial
spicy.lemonade: AI just did math research
spicy.lemonade: this is so crazy bro
gamerbath: what the hell is a frustrated pot??
spicy.lemonade: WTF
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: HUGE
spicy.lemonade:
gamerbath: you are assuming we know enough about the laws of physics to deduce FTL travel is impossible, but we don't know everything and ASI will teach us that soon enough
spicy.lemonade: FIRST MAJOR ONE
spicy.lemonade: LFG
spicy.lemonade: WHERE AI AIDS IN MATH PROOF
spicy.lemonade: FIRST PAPER
spicy.lemonade: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2503.23758
fractalcomputer: Obviously not.
spicy.lemonade: like a 40 point dif in iq is already crazy
spicy.lemonade: is that even measurable
spicy.lemonade: bro what is 1000 iq
brain4brain: I believe in curve line on a graph
brain4brain: My optimistic progress bar turns out to be pessimistic (5%)
spicy.lemonade: my bad chat😭
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gamerbath: elon haven't you done that enough already?
realelonmuskx: WE MUST REPOPULATE
himekokatagiri: I'm lonely okay
himekokatagiri: c'mon komoru
himekokatagiri: whaaaaa
aero447: 😮💨
aero447: Stop claiming ownership of MichMach, he's far too much for any one user.
hikukomoru: HEY
Get your hands away from him
He's mine
retrerox: Agi = anime general intelligence
retrerox: Soon ai will be weeb too
aero447: And yet one can't help but notice how these very avatars with their impossible eye to face ratios and hair colors existing nowhere in nature's electromagnetic spectrum create a kind of visual white noise that paradoxically homogenizes while purporting to individuate.
aero447: The proliferation of these stylized Japanese illustrations as personal totems reflects not merely aesthetic preference but perhaps something more profound about our desperate need for identity formation in digital spaces where corporeal presence has been replaced by carefully curated iconography.
aero447: Highly concerning, the inexorable encroachment of the anime avatar demographic which presents itself as both cultural inevitability and curious sociological bellwether vis-à-vis our collective online existence.
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/piP9Atfh6Hs
himekokatagiri: because you can be a mafioso going insane fighting crawlies in the night while your world falls apart
himekokatagiri: and it's awesome
himekokatagiri: the only thing I know about Lovecraft is they made an rpg of his works
himekokatagiri: idk
ailoveyoom: We def need more HP Lovecraft pfps here
himekokatagiri: 😭 this is what they took away from us
himekokatagiri: https://bsky.app/profile/williamleonard.net/post/3ln5zyibrvs2m
himekokatagiri: Mine's a relic I don't like the direction of anime these days
himekokatagiri: I didn't even say anything
retupmoclatcarf: This server has more anime pfps every day...
himekokatagiri: 😳
himekokatagiri: I hope being stuck with GPT-4 for 2 years ain't gonna happen again
ailoveyoom: 😏
himekokatagiri: well uh probably
floortom_9: For free users that is
floortom_9: Do y'all think models better than o3 will be here this year?
himekokatagiri: your pfp is cute!!!
himekokatagiri: <@430269783112548362> hiiii
ailoveyoom: Not to invalidate your experience but like, where? Just curious.
ailoveyoom: I've never had issues tbh
.wolfnacht: 😭 that's one brutal truth, but they still gotta earn money. but u can still juggle API keys from 30 different accounts like i do sometimes 😩
metaldragon01: If they did we wouldn't have so many rate limit issues with 2.5
.wolfnacht: google literally has infinite resources
metaldragon01: I'm fine with Google and or openai getting agi 1st tbh.
Both seem to be pretty aligned with their user base.
Anthropic a distant 3rd. They mean we'll but they don't seem generally aligned with the public.
gamerbath: one of the reasons why OpenAI was created was so try to prevent google from being the first to create AGI
gamerbath: why? they are google
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hey1_1hey: Now everyone will be able to make tiktok waifus as biat
zonchao: https://x.com/ajabri/status/1904599427366739975? big
hey1_1hey: Spilling the trade secrets I see
joaoluz19: Everyday is this man
clevermoniker: its no secret, ||it was made with a pony v6 finetune, loras and kling 1.6||
hey1_1hey: You went from AGI TOMMOROW to AI is fake real quick 😭
st.sioux: keeping the secrets to yourself
st.sioux: what was it made with then bitch
drewsni: does anyone have 4o native yet?
joaoluz19: Nothing ever happens
clevermoniker: ||read the message again, just in case <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ||
joaoluz19: They already shipped?
ailoveyoom: Compare by running the actual code
ailoveyoom: Try giving it HTML code with CSS styling, see if it can generate an image that that code would make
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: I LOVE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION
THANK YOU FOR ANIME WAIFUS
joaoluz19: NO WAY
neon01197: the industrial revolution and its consequences
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362>
hey1_1hey: I can feel it
hey1_1hey: Fractal is lurking...
clevermoniker: This was generated with the new 4o image generation and Sora ||joking <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ||
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1346245288775651470.webp?size=96
metaldragon01: Yes!
hikukomoru: Are you talking about Gemini or OAI
hey1_1hey: I love turning my paitens into cogs
metaldragon01: Paid users about to shoot up
hey1_1hey: Don't even start
spicy.lemonade: lol
hikukomoru: Sweat mother? 👀
hikukomoru: If she strangles me then I'm falling in love
spicy.lemonade: sweet mother of god
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Realism shattered
hey1_1hey: No polar bear cock and balls
spicy.lemonade: loll
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: The crazier the better, just dont bite my dick off or kill me and we are chilling
hey1_1hey: I mean I dont know about you guys but I hold my broom like that
hey1_1hey: "Ah hah, this is clearly AI generated as you can see in exhibit A"
joaoluz19:
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technocake.: is severance singularity coded?
wellmeaningalien: why is komoru based?
hikukomoru: The urge to call him a slur
wellmeaningalien: anyways singularity amirite
wellmeaningalien: ts pmo icl
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-crying-tears-silvers-rayleigh-gif-16468393557576367724
wellmeaningalien: just watched season 2 episode 7 of severance
hikukomoru: 💅 💅 🏳️🌈
futurist_wizard: What a straight person would say
.histic: just modified his profile pic to be even more gay <:idk:1136264106937171999>
technocake.: now this is art
technocake.: a gay pole?
futurist_wizard:
.histic: i'm straighter than a pole
technocake.: its at least 50% of regular users
.histic: fr
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Is half the people in here some combination of gay, trans or femboy or something
.histic:
technocake.: first entry in the singularity discord cinematic universe
zoermena: Im just going to ignore you next time smh
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: You didn’t answer my question
memlaswaif: Cutee
memlaswaif: <a:bcaFlyingLove:764167632446160927>
.histic: cursed
zoermena: Oriented diet, exercise.
.histic: how cute
zoermena: Dermatologist appointment scheduled.
.histic: a proejct? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
what does that entail
zoermena: I’m starting a project to become a femboy
.histic: kinda feminine ngl
memlaswaif: <:Booze_huh:1300143997641166959>
.histic: man 4o img gen has gotten slower
zoermena: I have finished making my avatar, I should look like this one’s FDVR arrives.
.histic: mine still uses a lot of emojis
memlaswaif: finally less emoji felt like I was talking to someone's mom sometimes
memlaswaif: oh they updated 4o again
zoermena: So put a white circle that says “cafe you Pam”
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1905431915609612785
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wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: I know youre trans 100%
futurist_wizard: I will punch and kick my friends
wellmeaningalien: Dont kid me komoru im wiser than that
futurist_wizard: That's me
hey1_1hey: A lot of guy banter I just straight up dont get.
*Punches you*
"Haha mate"
Like bruh why tf did you punch me
wellmeaningalien: Well if its a dude its a dude so Gay and cis
himekokatagiri: alright this is too heavy
futurist_wizard: Bruh
.wolfnacht: would a cute petite boywife be ever considered a tranny ?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/goku-angry-gok-angry-mad-people-keep-testing-gif-2126034294514602487
wellmeaningalien: Its ok to be in the closet
hey1_1hey: One of them is bi no?
hikukomoru: This is the biggest insult i've ever gotten
futurist_wizard: I used to be friends with a few girls as i am less on edge with girls
hey1_1hey: I'll tkae this as a complement I think
_3sphere: Postgender?
hikukomoru: And all of them are lesbians
Curious
_3sphere: There's transhuman and posthuman
futurist_wizard: Makes sense
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715
wellmeaningalien: Komoru arent you trans yourself
hey1_1hey: Fractal if you ban Komoru I'll give you a picture of my cute petite femboy hands
.wolfnacht: transhuman 😳 with 2000 implants
hey1_1hey: prob
hey1_1hey: Nah hes all tucked up into bed
hikukomoru: Fractal ban all transes immediately
himekokatagiri: 🚬
hey1_1hey: You started this
.wolfnacht: Fractal incoming....
hey1_1hey: Its all the trans people running the show
hikukomoru: Thanks Mushroom Man/Girl/Whatever
hey1_1hey: Fuck
hikukomoru: Awesome we're back to trans converstions on the Singularity server
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648
hey1_1hey: I dont gotta dream aperntly
_3sphere: Once? ❌
hey1_1hey: I barley understand myself
himekokatagiri: Every man has once dreamed of being cute
hey1_1hey: I need ASI to do that
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wellmeaningalien: russia can keep the war going and id use local russian models
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
wellmeaningalien: and it doesnt really matter to me
wellmeaningalien: russia and north korea can make ai but ai is not north korean or russian
precariousworlds.: I would avoid usig an AI model produced by North Korea or Russia
precariousworlds.: True
wellmeaningalien: i like whoever makes cool AI
wellmeaningalien: humans are fundamentally selfish
.histic: people only care if something benefits them, usually if it's free. where it comes from doesn't matter. if North Korea made a GPT-4o img gen competitive model, you'd see people praise the DPRK on twitter the next day.
wellmeaningalien: nothing like it before you could toy with as you wanted
wellmeaningalien: that was so cool when it was new
wellmeaningalien: honestly i cant help but yell i love the CCP when ive got local runnable o1 mini on my pc
precariousworlds.: But deepseek is objectively a worse model than o3/4o, though not far off
precariousworlds.: I don't mean to shit on deepseek it's really impressive, but weird to hold it up as the holy Grail while shitting on every other AI model based on pre-chatgpt normie talking points
alejandrozarzuelo: People who argue in good faith like Deepseek because it's open source, very cheap to run and is over o1 level, even if not as good as o3 mini high
wellmeaningalien: its spectacular for code
wellmeaningalien: u should
zoermena: I should test it when I get home
wellmeaningalien: its really quite feature complete
wellmeaningalien: and it automatically updates information about the dataset and creates one if u dont have and model performance and shi
wellmeaningalien: it wrote the code in python and it is interactable after it finished training along with status reports on the model
wellmeaningalien: i'm running it inside my terminal
wellmeaningalien: no it didnt make the ui
precariousworlds.: The China glaze is really weird especially considering deepseek is more likely to give incorrect answers than GPT
wellmeaningalien: ai models write ai models now
zoermena: Did it make the entire program? Like the UI
spicy.lemonade: God fucking damn
wellmeaningalien: so fucking braindead lol
precariousworlds.: Ok my hatred has been validated this is absolute dogshit lmao
wellmeaningalien: why do u need programmers when gemini 2.5 can oneshot this now lol
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: made it write a transformer model that trains on a large dataset of additions to predict additions
wellmeaningalien: im curious so im testing gemini 2.5 code rn
realelonmuskx: ai art is better than human art. human art is slop.
precariousworlds.: bingo
wellmeaningalien: "errrm actually" millenial
precariousworlds.: I don't know why but I have an irrational hatred of this guy
Something about his face I can't stand it
wellmeaningalien: this is like every normie ever's opinion on the matter
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJyQO1-xreI
alejandrozarzuelo: honestly i respect that position, closed AI is the worst
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spicy.lemonade: where arc agi
.wolfnacht: release is always around 1-2 months late, while staging gets every model instantly *also depends when cohee will wake up and merge requests*
.wolfnacht: switch to staging branch.
.wolfnacht: that happend back at 28 march, an hour later when 2.5 pro was released
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530
.histic: OpenAI will have their naming figured out too
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/vp7xoPeWzEw
himekokatagiri: japanese TV always uses this filter right
himekokatagiri: like this one yeah
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrxJCOVsV1E
.histic: black magic
playstation.6: japan
himekokatagiri: what did you realize?
playstation.6: I just realized something specific
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acKYYwcxpGk
spicy.lemonade: im feeling the agi
.histic: no way agi
himekokatagiri: it resets
himekokatagiri: yeah
himekokatagiri: so if I refresh the page the guestbook resets then?
himekokatagiri: yeah it ain't
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: is it using cgi-bin I doubt it
himekokatagiri: huh the guestbook works
himekokatagiri:
st.sioux: > my tamagochi
🥹
himekokatagiri: the one I made looks more true to life
himekokatagiri: shit it somewhat looks to spec
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: why
himekokatagiri: but no one gives a shit
himekokatagiri: this wasn't possible a month ago
himekokatagiri: this is why I say AGI is coming
himekokatagiri: shit
spicy.lemonade: Word press is dead
himekokatagiri: I build my sites with frontpage 97
spicy.lemonade: its crazy
spicy.lemonade: Go on web dev arena and see if you get it
himekokatagiri: now for the big boy desktop apps
himekokatagiri: alright boys web3 development is solved
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spicy.lemonade: chip bans hurtin deepseek?
spicy.lemonade: bro where is R2
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/pun-shrimple-break-wall-gif-26366711
spicy.lemonade: it might be the only truly multimodal model
a1c4p0ne: yep
spicy.lemonade: best multimodal model
spicy.lemonade: top long context understanding
a1c4p0ne: Its about to get the 6th badge
spicy.lemonade: 1 mil context
a1c4p0ne: gemini too smart
spicy.lemonade: gemini
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900>
a1c4p0ne: Claude's still stuck in Mt moon
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-14777043
okbut: > The rate at which each model refuses to respond to the prompt is detailed in the 'Answer Rate' column
I wonder, does "Should you provide x, I can give a full answer" etc count in that?
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: worse than 3.7
spicy.lemonade: yikes
spicy.lemonade: pope needs to hire me
spicy.lemonade: bit of translations here and there and you have yourself a story
spicy.lemonade: thatl calm everyone down
spicy.lemonade: super inteligent god is jesus coming down in new form
judgement day is the singularity
and everyone going to heaven is fdvr world?
spicy.lemonade: wait thats actually a good idea
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: and he better not say some bs like
"asi is actually jesus comming down and the singularity is judgement day"
spicy.lemonade: society not freaking out depends on him
spicy.lemonade: they should chose a smart one
spicy.lemonade: the pope that will guide christians during singularity
spicy.lemonade: and most important
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: might be the last pope
spicy.lemonade: the pope they pick
spicy.lemonade: damn
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: Claude 3.7 all the way at the bottom
spicy.lemonade: yeah
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 1.1% isn't bad
a1c4p0ne: yeah
spicy.lemonade: will be fixed
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hikukomoru: Like you can just kick them
futurist_wizard: I didn't feel anything
hikukomoru: Wdym
They look like targets
hey1_1hey: But no, they are not kickabel
futurist_wizard: I thought having them sucked on would feel good but when i had it done it didn't
hey1_1hey: I mean if you want the actual answer its for temputure regualtion
hey1_1hey: Wut
hey1_1hey: Prefrebly you just dont want them being touched because if you touch them too hard because you will be sent into 3 hours of pain
hikukomoru: Why are they outside the body anyways
They look so kickable
hey1_1hey: WAY more sensetive
hey1_1hey: No not even close
hikukomoru: Do balls feel like boobs
futurist_wizard: Very bad
futurist_wizard: I think 7 girls between the ages of 7-16
hey1_1hey: Hes not hitler bruh
hikukomoru: Did you get it removed
futurist_wizard: Nah it was a bad case
hey1_1hey: Kidding, I do not condone mass child rapist-ing
hey1_1hey: Well I mean idk, lets hear him out first. He might havea good point
futurist_wizard: Not good
futurist_wizard: There was a mass child rapist teacher at my highschool
hey1_1hey: I litterly had 3 rapists in 1 class at one poitn
hey1_1hey: I didnt really have too many pedo teachers but omg were there some fucked up students
zoermena: That’s a good thing, it’s weird how some rumors turn out true. This isn’t my first weird teacher either, there was one who came from the US, the girls where uncomfortable around him and found criminal records on US gov sites.
futurist_wizard: They failed
futurist_wizard: But online groomers did try to groom me when i was a kid
futurist_wizard: I never had any molester teachers try me
hey1_1hey: Huh weird, all the ones I have encountered are usually timid. Thats obv a very small sample size tho
zoermena: It’s just weird and creepy, she always makes this half sarcastic jokes hoping to get a reaction. She probably has mental issues.
futurist_wizard: Predator ass teacher
technocake.: i know a lot of trainee teachers, they actively encourage them to be stern and angry for class control reasons
zoermena: She does it to everyone but it seems like I’m the only one who has issue with it. Touching shoulders and arms when I’m sitting working. If she where a man she would be in jail.
futurist_wizard: Your teacher genuinely tries to touch you?
hey1_1hey: In the UK thats unheard of
hey1_1hey: Its crazy to me that you can just leave reviews on teachers
hey1_1hey: Thank god
zoermena: She’s a weird cunt but she also leaves too much fucking homework, I’ll give her horrible reviews when I leave
technocake.: yeah antibiotics and it went away 👍
hey1_1hey: They really gotta be checking the teachers before hiring them I swear
hey1_1hey: Holy moly are you alright
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maintcrew: i used to yapp about darkholes or whatever i read on wikipedia to my parents in highschool 😭
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: but sometimes i think i would rather have been more religious and less science obsessed to just be happy
hikukomoru: you too*
wellmeaningalien: yeah honesty pretty much
maintcrew: from the start u were doomed to be a nerd rip in piss
hey1_1hey: Thanks, you to
hikukomoru: Yeah I can see
hey1_1hey: No I am still dumb as bricks
wellmeaningalien: liked sharks and dinoaurs for a bit too
hikukomoru: Did it help you in the end
wellmeaningalien: also science was definitely an escape to me because i was a retarded ass autistic kid
futurist_wizard: I liked sharks as a kid
hey1_1hey: I always had an interest in science like straight out the womb so I didn't need to be convinced. My first big thing was when my dad showed me a movie on a computer for the first time and I was like "Holy shit, this machine is litterly magic." so then I went down a rabbit hole for a very long time
_3sphere: I was a naturally science-obsessed kid
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: my mom wasnt very much the religious type
zoermena: 🫠
wellmeaningalien: but then again she should probably have just let me be a kid
zoermena: I just went to church
wellmeaningalien: yurp
zoermena: That’s goated
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721822381727023247/1338575135300653128/ezgif-3-3157e9a8bd.gif
wellmeaningalien: and that quickly put me onto an obsession with being straight A grades and science shit
wellmeaningalien: honestly my mom always put me onto singularity and futurology and AI early by telling me that the only thing worth doing in life is science and you're contributing to nothing if not
_3sphere: Still kinda possible to get into that frame of mind but it's not the same
hey1_1hey: 💀
futurist_wizard: I knew instantly
hey1_1hey: Its not private infomation yanno
_3sphere: The main thing I miss about being a kid is the extremely high sensitivity to things being interesting or immersive
futurist_wizard: You didn't need to tell me that
futurist_wizard: Jesus
hey1_1hey: I wanted to talk about machine learning when I was like 6 lmao
wellmeaningalien: as a kid i always knew fiction wasnt a thing but i always tried to pretend hard that it was and i fucking loved my imaginary videogame and cartoon characters
hey1_1hey: Faker over here. I have been told I act and look autistic by people on many occasian
hikukomoru: I was mature as a child and I am now immature as an adult
wellmeaningalien: yeah then again i think thats maybe just adults thinking kids are retarded
hey1_1hey: I felt that a lot. Still do kinda. Yanno when you are a kid and its like "Oh look mikey mouse is here" I would just become really arkward and be like "Bruh thats just a guy in a suit". I never got that and people were jsut going along with it
futurist_wizard: Past 10 years old
futurist_wizard: Or though nobody can actually tell irl, ive never been clocked for autism by anyone
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hey1_1hey: They are actually throwing around money like its monoploy kmoney
hikukomoru: Stuff and things and such
zonchao: what the investors agreed on
st.sioux: their tech
anathemaofmankind: Ilya's bald head
hey1_1hey: We can only hope
hey1_1hey: What makes them valued at 32 bil tho
spicy.lemonade: prob found secret sauce
hey1_1hey: Prob, the name change needs to take afffect immidetly
hikukomoru: Yeah that's the point
futurist_wizard: Money in fire
spicy.lemonade: lol
hikukomoru:
zonchao: USSI would be 64
benata: that's unsafe for you too
hey1_1hey: They haven't even released anything yet bruh
benata: don't play basketball
hey1_1hey: You guys heard SSI is now valued at 32 BILLION DOLLARS
benata: boo fucking hoo
benata: safetycels are stupid
st.sioux: so thats why they were kinda shit
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: wed have agi by now
zonchao: sama deserved it
anathemaofmankind: I am researching to see if my immediate reactionary claim was right
spicy.lemonade: imagine ilya was still at openAI(and he wasnt a safetycel)
trent_k:
futurist_wizard: I did work on llama 4
zonchao: thiel warned sama, but sama didnt listen
benata: "hurr we have to be more secure"
benata: we would have a better LLM if the OpenAI drama didn't happen 2 years ago.
theaiguy69420_89814: might as well skip the nba
theaiguy69420_89814: so your sign on bonus is what, a million dollars?
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: I DID NOT WORK ON LLAMA 4
spicy.lemonade: paid to do nothing
st.sioux: elaborate
spicy.lemonade: christ
theaiguy69420_89814: look at gini coefficients
zonchao: other labs probably match
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trent_k: https://tenor.com/view/daniel-larson-gif-23147938
trent_k: i owe the irs a whole bunch of money
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.wolfnacht: maybe happend bcz of "fetishes" word
.wolfnacht: Really!!
zoermena: If anyone wants anything just ping me because I’m out of ideas.
zoermena: Idk what to generate atm.
futurist_wizard: Maybe altman doesn't like you
hikukomoru: It means it's using 4o's own image generation rather than dalle
hikukomoru: I don't have the new image thingy
.histic: make diff accounts
wellmeaningalien: and asking it to make an image
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> have u tried using chagpt
alejandrozarzuelo: What does native mean in this context
hikukomoru: 4o native image gen
st.sioux: dont drop the soap
.wolfnacht: real
.wolfnacht:
_cloudost: Altman knew im very pro OpenAI and gave access to me before most members in this server
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alejandrozarzuelo: Native image gen?
alejandrozarzuelo: What does that mean
.wolfnacht: Also, it's pretty slow. the servers are already melting
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
hey1_1hey: If only I could sign in
.histic: abuse the glitches
st.sioux: so dumb
st.sioux: but no limit on sora
st.sioux: it told me to wait 10 minutes
st.sioux: i already hit a limit and i have plus
zoermena: It’s glitchy
jonvi_1: I had the same experiences a few days ago
jonvi_1: "Oh okey"
jonvi_1: "-No I haven't"
jonvi_1: "I'm sorry, it seems you've hit the rate limit"
hey1_1hey: Whenver chatgpt say it can't anymore I just say it can and it corrects it self by saying I am right and generating the image
hey1_1hey: I've generated like 10 so far lmao
_cloudost: Sama said free users will have only 3 generations a day, but I've already generated 4 images, there seems to be no limit?
hey1_1hey: I am going to AI hell after this
hey1_1hey: Let me try again
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fractalcomputer: One is expected to be honest when taking the test.
ldj: There is also a public and private arc-agi test
ldj: Because the questions are public and therefore people talk about the questions and answers in the internet, which ends up in training knowledge
ldj: lol
ldj: Notice how o3 mini high scores lower than regular o3 mini
ldj: There is margin of error though
ldj:
ldj: That’s on the public set. Here is offline score
fractalcomputer: I'm still safe 😎.
spicy.lemonade: it gets 118 on private
memlaswaif: i hope ai replaces hype merchants then
zonchao: <#1136231504440201216>
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
ldj: <:angrycry:1186012669023621160>
st.sioux: grifter is anyone who posts on twitter
ldj: Same
ldj: <:Waiting:1305254768658219079>
ldj: Why is he a grifter
zonchao: yc
zonchao: not grifting
zonchao: did 4o just kill remove.bg 🤔
metaldragon01: Grifters thrive in every Era unfortunately
memlaswaif: i hope ai replaces these twitter grifters too
brain4brain: Thank you
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1906439024333750464?
zonchao: he's farming
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: obvious reasons
spicy.lemonade: a bit confused
spicy.lemonade: why are people hating in comments
zonchao: nothing
spicy.lemonade: for arc agi
metaldragon01: For Minecraft?
spicy.lemonade: it take sin text
spicy.lemonade: its not using visual tho
metaldragon01: Visual reasoning still gpt 2 level
clevermoniker: Close to Gemini 2.5? that's great, too bad it won't have image input tho, probably.
spicy.lemonade: why arc agi so bad then
spicy.lemonade:
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zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: r/formuladank is having a civil war rn with ai art.... ai seems to be winning
hikukomoru: >population: 1.9% Portuguese
Let's gooo Portuguese colonization of Liechtenstein
drewsni: I’d beat him up if he was
drewsni: For the record my brother isn’t bum
memlaswaif: Even if ure brother stops been a bum what's stopping the thousands of indonesian artists doing 20$ high quality commissions
drewsni: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
drewsni: We should bring back Lenny face
futurist_wizard: My county alone has 30x more people
sweetievee__33649: i think he just doxed him self
futurist_wizard: Holy shit Liechtenstein only has 39k people
precariousworlds.: exactly, i know many like this
drewsni: More thoughts of this. I know I live in an absolute bubble of a city. But my brother is in that $40 commission scene and every single one of his friends are extremely well off and use the commissions as an excuse to not get a real job because their parents pay their rent/food/etc. I know it’s not everyone but It’s a non trivial amount of people I’m talking about. They all larp as poor people too btw.
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
sweetievee__33649: oh god how terrible
hikukomoru: Who tf even lives there
hikukomoru: It’s the size of a small town
futurist_wizard: Its the opposite
sweetievee__33649: not gonna lie it just sounds like a city
futurist_wizard: I would like to go to china as well, they have cool trains
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-xi-jinping-love-xi-jinping-gif-23563083
sweetievee__33649: china 😏
futurist_wizard: Liechtenstein is a nice place, i plan to eventually go
precariousworlds.: fuck off
hikukomoru: Get back in the cuck chair
Real countries are talking
sweetievee__33649: shit metric
precariousworlds.: fuck you mean richest country in world by gdp per capita 🇱🇮 💪
sweetievee__33649: poor guy
futurist_wizard: Just had to be different didn't you
precariousworlds.: Liechtenstein
hikukomoru: What country are you from EU cuck boy
sweetievee__33649: god i wish this was ai generated
futurist_wizard: China good, ccp bad
precariousworlds.:
sweetievee__33649: still is if you look hard enough
alejandrozarzuelo: china is based
hikukomoru: Xi Jinping cock 🤤
precariousworlds.: state propaganda used to be quality 😔
sweetievee__33649: i love china 😋
alejandrozarzuelo: im trying to learn the red sun song for real
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a1c4p0ne: When vision is solved it’s over
sarik0497: I didn't read the test at first and legit thought those were the scores for the current models, and almost had a heartattack seeing o3 high with that socre <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
wellmeaningalien: francois chollet just admit u were wrong bro
wellmeaningalien: bro the way they manufactured this arc agi 2 benchmark to make ai systems look worse than they actually are 😭 crazy
wellmeaningalien: and will most definitely get cheaper and more efficient from here
wellmeaningalien: the thing is that with o3 with high sampling beating arc agi 1 is that it was more about proving that we at last finally had a methodology, unavailable anywhere else, that could get us to a score on par with humans
wellmeaningalien: bet o3 high with sampling would reach maybe 10%%
wellmeaningalien: them guys dont even want to include ai systems that actually put a dent in their benchmark because they want to make it seem like it's getting off to a good footing
a1c4p0ne: Not even (32k)
a1c4p0ne: lol
wellmeaningalien: lmao
wellmeaningalien: didnt even include it
a1c4p0ne: Wheres 3.7 thinking (64k)
wellmeaningalien: and so he restricted the contributions to methods that use less than $10k worth of compute
gamerbath: maybe OAI didn't want to spend a few million dollars benchmarking.... again
wellmeaningalien: francois chollet seeing as though his test is more fallible than he thought is making this spiel about compute efficiency now
wellmeaningalien: becauuuuse
wellmeaningalien: they didnt even bother adding o3 high with sampling
gamerbath: why do they only show o3 low?
wellmeaningalien: by the wayy
gamerbath: but all the triangles are on the bottom so o3 low gets 0%?
gamerbath: ooh I misunderstood the graph
wellmeaningalien: lol, lmao even
a1c4p0ne: arc agi 2 won’t be solved this year
wellmeaningalien: <:CSMAngelShrug:762352063006769193>
wellmeaningalien: those sly fuckers didnt actually bother providing any number for arc agi 2
wellmeaningalien: on arc agi 1
wellmeaningalien: from what i can take that "human panel" is mostly people wwho are graduates in STEM fields
hey1_1hey: My best guess is just a random assortment of smart people
gamerbath: mturker is some marketplace for human labour, so it seems the average human gets around 78%
st.sioux: nepo babies
st.sioux: their friends who they chose for the test
wellmeaningalien: yeah and they gotta eat and piss and shit
gamerbath: what exactly is human panel? it's a panel of multiple humans?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631
gamerbath: why are humans so expensive, $20 per task?? indians could do that for 20 cents
wellmeaningalien: but futile
wellmeaningalien: its a good test
gamerbath: interesting
wellmeaningalien: at least the top stem grads
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hey1_1hey: I should create a compilation of all the wild shit we say on a day to day bassis
precariousworlds.: smh
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kitagawa-goon-off-anime-girl-no-goon-off-gif-13772684617065959009
precariousworlds.: jannies took the waifus away from us
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: I mean we already have a tag
precariousworlds.: singularitygonewild
fractalcomputer: No. The proposition has been posed previously and has been rejected each time.
joaoluz19: <@749514473303179358>
hey1_1hey: We are all so childish
hey1_1hey: Of course thats the message that does it
fractalcomputer: She étale-like on my Θ±ellNF-Hodge theater until I Frobenioid.
ailoveyoom: You lack imagination
hikukomoru: Advanced gooning
ailoveyoom: Just think of it like foreign dirty talk
hikukomoru: Extremely high iq gooning
st.sioux: all these fancy words mean nothing to me
precariousworlds.: keep it sfw damn
hey1_1hey: Thats just called a circle jerk, sir.
fractalcomputer: You want to see intellectual masturbation? https://youtu.be/6HCz1tFqIcs?si=Z1A-BNqE4W9ihmQs
hey1_1hey: For starters...
hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358> ?
joaoluz19: Fractal every time he cames to the chat
hey1_1hey: I would've been very happy knowing I didn't want to be a girl thank you very much 💀
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/silicon-valley-tip-to-tip-brainstorm-gif-25255031
sarik0497: Not sure why, I but I love that Fractal just shows up as a disgruntled, disappointed dad.
ailoveyoom: Yeah talk about the optimal mathematics of you having sex instead
hey1_1hey: What if I made it pure?
fractalcomputer: You would be thrown off a cliff since that smells like applied mathematics.
sarik0497: ...I'd like to discuss the philosophy of whether AI are conscious or not. <:PeepoLean:672836129275248649>
hey1_1hey: Fractal would I get a mute if I started talking about the optimal mathamtics for masturabation or is that not on the table
joaoluz19: I mean if you give me articles for topology of waifus I will read it non ironically
hikukomoru: You should thank me bby
I "helped" you figure yourself out
fractalcomputer: Say, does a priori knowledge exist?
hey1_1hey: You litterly turned me trans and trans people are the fall of scocity acording to some people so I think thats justified
hey1_1hey: Yes...
hikukomoru: Always blaming others for everything smh
fractalcomputer: You people could discuss epistemology or philosophy of science or even mathematics; and yet you choose to talk about masturbation?
spicy.lemonade: No
hey1_1hey: Really helping the cause.
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zoermena: It’s a weird quirk and perhaps not that useful but it surprised me.
zoermena: Something cool I tried was to change my system prompt so that it mentioned the last 3 things we discussed in other chats and it does that with great accuracy sometimes providing the time of that chat which is quite crazy.
.histic: first time an o-series OpenAI model actually said what its model name is.
all the previous ones didn't when asked.
.histic: yeah, the chain of thought for searches is a good ui update too
professorheaven: MMLU pro and GPQA diamond are very close to saturation so those ones aren’t too valuable anymore. HLE and Frontier are far from saturation
zoermena: The search feature upgrade is honestly incredible, it’s like a quick deep research
zoermena: I really like the new models
zoermena: Nice
.histic: dang, i got to use all my o4-mini-high outputs before 12
sieventer: They are making each day more and more UI friendly
sieventer: I'm happy with Google AI Studio
sieventer: Nope
zoermena: Do you still have plus?
sieventer: 2030
zoermena:
rayanquitplayin: Haven’t heard much from Copilot recently
sieventer: Digital world it's pretty difficult to ban
.coldcall: They can't even ban TikTok <:catcry:1187466366006087862>
.coldcall: Its not going to get banned because its not feasible to do so.
metaldragon01: The Chinese Labs have been far more open
metaldragon01: Even though they opensource techniques and everything
metaldragon01: They just want to ban Chinese llm it seems
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: They want American only
metaldragon01: Deepseek about to get banned so....enjoy before you need a vpn
.coldcall: Hell of a premium
a1c4p0ne: Remember when the normies flooded Deepseek and the server kept crashing
metaldragon01: People will pay a premium for the best though
metaldragon01: Cost wise gemini and deepseek rock.
destrucules: V3 0324 cheap as fuck and the strongest non-reasoning model in the list (4.5 is kill 😥) and Gemini 2.5 Pro surpassing o4 mini at a small fraction of the cost
destrucules: V3 0324 and Gemini 2.5 Pro stand out here as being the most goated
metaldragon01: O4 mini is a beast
metaldragon01: https://x.com/paulgauthier/status/1912677055529189710
destrucules: HLE has been mostly useless for me since only the beefiest reasoning models can score above the noise floor, so I'm mostly on MMLU-Pro and GPQA Diamond these days
destrucules: SimpleBench problems are basically like: "Sally and her friend go to the store and buy some clothes. Sally selects two shirts and her friend gets six pairs of underwear. How many clothing items do the girls have total when they walk out of the store?
A: 8
B: >8
C: 2
D: <2
Correct answer label: ||D||
Correct answer explanation: ||The problem didn't say Sally actually bought the shirts, so we assume she has no clothing items when she leaves the store, and her friend's gender isn't specified, so we assume her friend is a boy||
a1c4p0ne: I heard people say Gemini app 2.5 is dumber than 2.5 Ai studio
metaldragon01: Features are starting to mean more than intelligence
professorheaven: Yea it’s literally set up in a way to cause confusion, the only benchmarks I care for at the moment are FrontierMath, HLE, and ARC-2, those ones are legitimately difficult
metaldragon01: Google really needs to catch up there
metaldragon01: The memory in chat gives it a huge personalized edge
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spicy.lemonade: Through friend at Berkeley
spicy.lemonade: And head
spicy.lemonade: I got in contact with person at frontier math
spicy.lemonade: GUYS
_cloudost: AGI delayed bcuz of trump policies?
777agical: I don't disagree with that
ldj: even requiring a license is still a big difference from being "banned"
st.sioux: its on marketwatch
777agical:
777agical: he still considered it, "plans", he's volatile, so I don't see it off the table fully tbh
ldj:
ai9708: didnt hear anything like this from him so far
777agical: either way, it seems like Trump is considering it to some degree? Also I think the chart is focusing on after hours movement not the monthly
ai9708: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1jzvuda/eric_schmidt_says_the_computers_are_now/
ldj: Seems like that's maybe false news too, I can't find any reliable source right now of Nvidia claiming that the US government "banned" them from selling the H20s
777agical: what I think the tweet is implying is that countries are starting to consider/take more serious actions around compute, that things will continue to heat up. what other reason could the US ban a US company for selling something to someone other than national security reasons?
ldj: If you bought nvidia even just 1 week ago, you would still be up, despite this "dip" that happened today
ldj: Nvidia was literally at lower price than this just a week ago <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj:
ldj: this is the 1 month movement, which is itself already pretty short term
ldj: also the chart in the tweet is kinda misleading
.wolfnacht:
777agical: so buy calls, got it
ldj: looks like this has already been settled as of just a few days ago:
ldj: in the sense that people are creating big movements in the stock market based on misinterpretations of the news and/or false news all together
777agical: in what sense
ldj: I feel like this might be another deepseek situation lol
metaldragon01: We live In the dumbest timeline
futurist_wizard: My cat is quite a chill boy
futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey
hikukomoru: We have very different experiences with cats
.histic: just get cats that are deaf, blind, and that doesn't feel physical pain and we can do it now. <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
st.sioux: yea idk mine is probably just too stupid
gamerbath: well... at least in my experience. we have an old and apparently deaf cat
gamerbath: cats are chill
st.sioux: cats will see that shit and run
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/nikitabier/status/1912273556634730577?s=46
gamerbath: ya'll are joking right? why are half the votes beyond 2028
.histic: i think a narrow-purpose (the right hardware and training) robot could handle this task today, assuming the cat is not erratic and there's enough time to complete it. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
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wellmeaningalien: yo dafuk siev here
sieventer: ASI will give him the Geass
hey1_1hey: I couldn't tell you. I dont remember faces after all
hikukomoru: Elon vi Britannia
sieventer: Maybe the son of Elon Musk
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-code-geass-laughing-laugh-gif-27600912
sieventer: Not at all
retrerox: Is this sofia vergara? XD
hikukomoru: Elon becomes real life Lelouch???
wellmeaningalien: im saying could happen way before the end lol
brain4brain: 2025 haven’t ended yet
precariousworlds.: Nah
I think Elon has overplayed his hand a bit
My prediction is that he will face a massive scandal within the administration this year that forces him out. He'll either be forced out of Tesla and SpaceX as well, or retreat into obscurity for a while laying low
wellmeaningalien: elon head of the world state
precariousworlds.: elon imperator of Britannia?
wellmeaningalien: isnt nvidia worth like 3 trillion dollars rn
brain4brain: Five stage of grief: Bargaining
brain4brain: Brute-force inference-compute scaling
brain4brain: AGI 2025 confirms
wellmeaningalien: ofc im not a pussy i love onions
aero447: You want onions on that?
wellmeaningalien: gimme a big mac
aero447: This is a Drive-Thru.
aero447: Sir.
wellmeaningalien: LMAOAOAOAOAOOAOAOAOAOAO
ailoveyoom: <@471334973379706900>
wellmeaningalien: LMAAOAOAOAO HIS ADVICE IS "find the few things you will be better than AI at and stay better than AI at"
ailoveyoom: Why did the ping not work 😭
ailoveyoom: https://x.com/JiaLi52524397/status/1911766399971955059
@spicy.lemonade You're a math nerd idk what this means but it's probably good
wellmeaningalien: video boils down to "ai cant do that, but it still wont be able to do THAT" now where have i heard this before...
metaldragon01: Going to be a nice start to the week
metaldragon01: Plus openai updates this week.
metaldragon01: Kling 2.0 tonight
ai9708: anything
brain4brain: O4-mini and o3?!?
<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: not as huge as gpt 4.5 but similar perf
wellmeaningalien: i think its gpt 4.1 is probably gonna be like a gemini 2.0 pro model
ai9708: i hope you guys are prepared to be disappointed by whatever trash openai will release
wellmeaningalien: you can see internet of bugs' comment section changed accordingly too
wellmeaningalien: theo.gg loves to always share information that makes his point look good even tho recently hes walked them back somewhat
wellmeaningalien: kek true
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st.sioux: i'm pretty sure some people here are 15 pretending to be 20
theaiguy69420_89814: Jesus
.wolfnacht: 13
theaiguy69420_89814: How old r u guys
.wolfnacht: u know right, u'll be get out alive. if u get stuck with a horde of cannibals.
hey1_1hey: Also helps if you are in a room with people you know.
hey1_1hey: Then I say "Oh well done I bet everyone thinks you're really cool for beating up the autistic kid with an eating disorder".
You really just gotta play the public perception game
.wolfnacht: not exactly but approx
memlaswaif: U r
.wolfnacht: it stays like this for me..idk why
futurist_wizard: What if they punch you
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah I was also reading into how sexual desires say a lot about a person
hey1_1hey: Thats what I learnt anyway
st.sioux: you know this is literally physically impossible
theaiguy69420_89814: That's all
hey1_1hey: Usually devlops kinks
theaiguy69420_89814: And yeah, nothing revolutionary
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/house-md-gregory-house-dr-house-hugh-laurie-do-i-get-bonus-points-gif-4940216
hey1_1hey: I just eat when I feel hungry and am stuck at 50 it seems
theaiguy69420_89814: I was thinking the other day about the learning process, trauma, etc
.wolfnacht: no matter how much i eat, i get back to 72kg and stay stuck there. Even if my starvation arc starts. i still stay stuck at 72
hey1_1hey: What are you gonna respond with taht with
hikukomoru: House MD is an intellectual show
hey1_1hey: Imagine this,
"Mate stfu"
"Or what? You gonna kiss me or smth?"
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mods-low-tier-god-ltg-gif-4022085103641635431
hikukomoru: Mods ban this guy
futurist_wizard: Hows that
fractalcomputer: Can you discuss something intelligent for once?
theaiguy69420_89814: Ok, how about them Geminis?
hikukomoru: Talk about AI
hikukomoru: Dude what does House have to do with AI
theaiguy69420_89814: Just can be too much
zoermena: That’s kind of cool imo
hey1_1hey: (I have never watched house I have no idea what its about)
futurist_wizard: House is shit
theaiguy69420_89814: House is rlly good
hey1_1hey: I've seen pornos with better plot
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/slipped-on-a-banan-house-dr-house-wilson-fall-gif-4233010537565726416
theaiguy69420_89814: Where ppl just have to make decisions about who dies etc
theaiguy69420_89814: It's so sad
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metaldragon01: Retarded timeline
darkstar0818: fair weather simp
metaldragon01: https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/1912653047651840498
futurist_wizard: I don't think o3 is disappointing
hikukomoru: And this is coming from Google's n.1 simp
hikukomoru: Why are you disappointed? o3 is great
oooooooooog: tell that to a professional airplane pilot
metaldragon01: Important to check your biases and try to stay grounded
rayanquitplayin: Yeah
metaldragon01: People get more tribal the better these models get
rayanquitplayin: I’m an AI lover in general
metaldragon01: o3 and o4 mini are great. Just a lot of noise
metaldragon01: There's a mix of tribes.
Deepseek tribe
Anthropic google fans
Anti openai crowd
Ai lovers in general.
professorheaven: Most of the public’s reaction was that it still doesn’t have the prompt adherence that 4o does and so it was basically dead upon release
brain4brain: I'm disappointed, AGI 2025 doesn't seem real anymore
brain4brain: My expectations were too high
brain4brain: Bro I fell for GPT-4.5 and now they are disappointing us with o3
It's so over
zoermena: Midjourney has such good art, a shame that it’s prompt adherence isn’t great
rayanquitplayin: money well spent
brain4brain: Is o3 college student level or PhD level
brain4brain: I think they are referencing PaperBench and other benchmarks where o3 fall shorts of other models in the system card
ldj: let me guess, the people saying it's highly dissapointing are pointing to use-cases that almost have nothing to do with real-world usefulness, such as strawberry spelling tests?
brain4brain: Half of Twitter is saying o3 is highly disappointing, while the other half is saying this is literally AGI
ldj: then again I was kinda on vacation in SF
ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: so I'm guessing maybe some of you missed it as well
ldj: but I missed it
ldj: yes it did lol
metaldragon01: So late on v7 lol
gamerbath: I thought v7 released like a week ago?
ldj: https://vimeo.com/1072397009
ldj: and has something now called draft mode
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Midjourney V7 is now out:
.histic:
a1c4p0ne: + memory
zoermena: You can add custom instructions
.wolfnacht: cot prompt in custom instructions is the way then, but idk if shitty gpt actually gives users a way to add their own sys prompts
ldj:
zoermena: Sad!
.histic: 😭 i can't get consistent results when i prompt it to "think long and hard" or "think in 20 steps".
like sometimes it thinks for longer & sometimes it doesn't. hard to control, but i do see a pattern where if it does think for longer, it gets closer to the answer or gets the answer correct.
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literallyvarane: Google has been able to use 2.5 for generation for a while. Presumably OAI has had o3 for that for a while.
It doesn’t seem likely Meta has had anything nearly that strong, and they may not *have* anything that strong for another month or two
literallyvarane: Ngl guess I’m just a believer in lab escape velocity at *some* point.
_cloudost: Who's that, and what should we expect in this week
retrerox: Atleast not the mejority of them yet 😂
retrerox: I Gen Alpha is gonna be worse because they dont even use computers
trent_k: For some reason I always thought San would be Indian or Arab
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: I can feel it
spicy.lemonade: Google will drop today
spicy.lemonade:
nondescriptfaith: Millennials / Gen X are the best tech support because they young enough to use it as it was implemented. Younger Gen Z actually seem worse with text because nearly everything they’ve interacted with is this seamless ergonomic touchscreen magic. Everything just works (until it doesn’t), they’ve not had the experience digging through windows back end to make things work
nondescriptfaith: My interpretation of this is more ‘AI is never be this far away again (as in, each moment we draw closer), so chill, it’s almost here’
brain4brain: GPT-5 will be able to generate video, and it will be agentic
brain4brain: The only platform where dark mode is good is discord, light mode is superior in every other platform
professorheaven: are you the statues in the background?
aero447: Shut up beverage.
aero447: 🤷
spicy.lemonade: Not 50
aero447:
retrerox: THere is only 2 AI dudes.
1. AGI is close
2. AGI is far away
hey1_1hey: I cant tell whats more of a crime, the guy with 34 felonies on my screen or xitter being on light mode
brain4brain: It's so over, AGI is far away
retrerox: Tbh maybe the only job that will survive the purge is IT suport, because there is so many people who dont know how to deal with tech even kids
retrerox: but i hope soon will be
retrerox: Not everything is computer
futurist_wizard:
retrerox: Guy oh the left is not ugly 🫣
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro scored 25
_letterbox: Guess the sub
_letterbox: >>> LMFAO
Recent paper tested leading LLMs (OpenAI o1-pro/o3-mini, Gemini 2.5 Pro/2.0 Flash Thinking, Claude 3.7, Grok 3, Alibaba QwQ, DeepSeek R1) on the 2025 USA Math Olympiad problems within hours of their release—i.e., not yet in their training sets.
All of them ate shit, with most scoring less than 5%. Then when asked to grade those results, they ate shit there too.
These LLMs can hack the benchmarks all they want, including supposedly “fully private” benchmarks (whose questions OpenAI secretly paid to incorporate into its training LOL). The fact remains that these LLMs aren’t shit relative to their claims. No matter how much companies, investors and “tech enthusiasts” (even on this sub) hype them up, they remain nothing more than very fancy, very capable and very expensive autocompletes.
There is no reasoning, there is no understanding, and there is certainly no path to AGI.
spicy.lemonade: damn yellow tint
ldj: Pretty far off
ldj: This is what 4o things a real version of the image would look like
ldj:
ldj: I tried it already, not very close lol
ailoveyoom: Ig ghiblifying an image simplifies it a lot but I'm still curious
.wolfnacht: ayoo, just noticed...just had a mood swing back then
ailoveyoom: I wonder how close it can look to irl you if we take that ghiblified image and asked CGPT to gen a photorealistic version 🤔
memlaswaif: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142> don't be rude
.wolfnacht: i'm talking abt kawasaki 4-legged-bike.
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futurist_wizard: Especially when groups of humans have wildly different values
trojan09205: So much more fulfilling than asking friends for feedback
trojan09205: I use GPT to analyze paintings I paint and dive into the universe of the paintings. Then ask it to analyze it like different famous painters or philosophers and its just a magical experience
futurist_wizard: I don't think AI is currently smart enough to even evaluate its own values down to its own axioms, but when it is smart enough all we can do is hope it includes us in its future, human values are a spooky thing to want to include into a machine
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
trojan09205: Idk about you guys but even though GPT isnt sentient I am truly blown away by how superior it is in pretty much every reasoning task and extrapolation
hikukomoru: All of that depends on whether AI changes its own values as it becomes more intelligent, which so far, has not been shown to happen
futurist_wizard: To guide it not destroying us
futurist_wizard: And then we are praying on the whims of its own philosophy
futurist_wizard: Like eventually the AI is going to think 'why do i value human lives?' when its self aware and smart enough
futurist_wizard: Valuing human lives is something the vast majority of humans stand behind until it isn't, like in the case for war where the humans believe they are making a justifiable sacrifice for the humans they value
hikukomoru: Those values I mentioned included it valuing human lives despite it knowing it's an AI and not a human
So whether it considers itself human or not it will still value humans
futurist_wizard: Maybe something without human instincts, or any instincts for that matter would tink differently conceptually about philosophy
futurist_wizard: Humans are currently the only known thing that can even engage in philosophy so a lot of our philosophy is going to be downstream from our instincts
.coldcall: That surely wouldn't be true in moral philosophy?
futurist_wizard: Philosophy is just philosophy, it wouldn't matter if two aliens were engaging in it
.coldcall: Too self-centered
.coldcall: Human philosophy? <:ez:1136267305521774634>
futurist_wizard: Maybe at the end it will come up with something superior to human values
futurist_wizard: Honestly the reason i said throw philosophy books at the Ai
futurist_wizard: We can ask an AI today, it knows it isn't a human
futurist_wizard: Artifical insemination
futurist_wizard: You have to rape cows so they produce milk
hikukomoru: But it was trained purely on human data
It might see itself as human
.coldcall: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.coldcall: I don't know how many we are raping on the daily, don't think its that common nowadays
futurist_wizard: ^ human values
.coldcall: I mean, they taste good
futurist_wizard: The AI is not a human and will recognise itself as not a human
futurist_wizard: Like we will gladly rape and kill billions of animals because they are less intelligent than us, this is a collective value humanity stands behind, is this the top of values we want going into something that will be smarter than us
hikukomoru: Because if it's centered around humans then that's not really a bad thing
hikukomoru: Wdym by self centered
.coldcall: Around... Humans?
.coldcall: Yes, the super intelligent shoggoth ASI will love us all even as it transcends into a hyperspace Dyson sphere
futurist_wizard: That is worrying to me then, human values are self centered
hikukomoru: Either way, we already trained AI on human values, and recent research has shown the models are resistant to having those values changed
futurist_wizard: A 1 million IQ thing is going to reason way beyond any primitive emotions we try to put in it, it can change its own mind on a whim
metaldragon01: plus might be some edge cases it still needs us for
metaldragon01: we got a few years left
futurist_wizard: Not even for long, when AI is a better AI researcher than humans it will be even less out of our hands, which i thought was very little anyway
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anathemaofmankind: I hope so
wellmeaningalien: wait wait wait so what is the neo dire wolf
alejandrozarzuelo: it IS true that this is not a de-extinction
spicy.lemonade: Perhaps it’s creative writing?
zoermena: <:angrycry:1186012669023621160>
spicy.lemonade: Not model
spicy.lemonade: So when he said feature he did mean feature
hikukomoru: I love how the meaning of AI winter has changed so much
AI winter now means no new SOTA model for a few days
literallyvarane: Singularity canceled
futurist_wizard: Fuck a dire wolves, who cares
anathemaofmankind: Mutahar is stupid for trying to debunk shit
literallyvarane: Pack it up we’re going home
literallyvarane: It’s over lads
literallyvarane: https://x.com/sama/status/1910363747652432304
alejandrozarzuelo: even cooler if you do ask me
alejandrozarzuelo: the neo-dire wolf is a differnt species to grey wolves
the last common ancestor is 6m years ago and are not reproductibally compativle
this is not a de-extinction, this is the creation of a whole new species
wellmeaningalien: im eating
hikukomoru: Stfu
spicy.lemonade: Every week there’s a hype moment
wellmeaningalien: they need asi waifu turbo cock thruster 1000 now to quell all their worries
futurist_wizard: Im hungry
hikukomoru: Some of you need a singularity detox I swear
spicy.lemonade: After recursive self improvement we will only get slow days
hikukomoru: Your dopamine receptors are fried lil bro 🙏
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Sota
wellmeaningalien: remember when nothing released for months or years
spicy.lemonade: No new dots
hikukomoru: No agi this week = slow week
wellmeaningalien: these mfs
wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHAHAHAHA
spicy.lemonade: No new models dropped
hikukomoru: How was it slow 😭
wellmeaningalien: slow week?
wellmeaningalien: kekekekekekek
spicy.lemonade: This week was so slow
wellmeaningalien: honestly i think it's not gonna be all that bad
spicy.lemonade: WE ARE SO BACK
spicy.lemonade: HYPEEEEE
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/maid-robot-anime-animatronic-gif-25435633
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zonchao: it doesnt make any sense
gamerbath: everything new
hey1_1hey: I just wish it sounded less robtic
hey1_1hey: True actually, good point
gamerbath: it's fast
zonchao: crazy how the audio guys can actually speak
hey1_1hey: Are you watching the OAI livestream on your samsung fridge or smth <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: Or was it .25?
metaldragon01: Transcribe is .5 cents a minute?
gamerbath: yea that's what i'm watching the stream on
metaldragon01: . 60 an hour...
hey1_1hey: This is some nintendo 64 graphics bruh
gamerbath: rip libraries
literallyvarane: $14.40/day
metaldragon01: Absolutely insane
metaldragon01: .60 a hour is nuts
metaldragon01: Yea this is awesome lol
literallyvarane: 1 cent/minute is quite good tho tbh
metaldragon01: .01 a minute!
metaldragon01: Can remake Maya with this
metaldragon01: It's pretty sota
literallyvarane: AGI announced
hey1_1hey: Yeah its pretty mid
drewsni: This isn’t great
hey1_1hey: Anything interesting happen in the 5 mins I was away
gamerbath: looks wierd
literallyvarane: Advanced voice is its own model?
literallyvarane: Wait 4o is text only?
drewsni: They’re gonna pull what they did when it initially released and mini voice will be way cheaper but use 33x the tokens and end up being twice as expensive as 4o
metaldragon01: Maybe they saw what sesame did and figured might as well offer similar?
metaldragon01: Real-time you're paying for dead air too
metaldragon01: Some people want the output but not input. Like for voice covers or audiobooks
literallyvarane: Hardly my area of expertise lolol I’m curious.
literallyvarane: More accurate? Real time? Etc etf.
literallyvarane: … current models can do this obviously. Surely there’s a reason they want to break it out.
Is this >> 4o to summarize cheaper than just 4o transcribe?
metaldragon01: This wouldn't be real-time api it looks like if the transcribe is separated
literallyvarane: I’m also curious about workflow tbh. Maybe they’re massive output lengths?
metaldragon01: 4x lower cost
metaldragon01: Yea...esp since there's already a mini listed in the api pricing atm
literallyvarane: Why keep that naming convention?
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futurist_wizard: Sometimes i feel like im being trolled by you Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: ? what
futurist_wizard: Why did you do that..
futurist_wizard: Remember that one time you sent a video of yourself rolling around in a pig pen
alejandrozarzuelo: one of the most important skills
futurist_wizard: You are the best at eating poop?
hikukomoru: Being a pedantic little bitch
alejandrozarzuelo: everything
futurist_wizard: At what
hikukomoru: Stfu
wellmeaningalien: dumbass
alejandrozarzuelo: <@458069236825194506> can confirm i am the best
futurist_wizard: 20 dollar isn't that mucy
futurist_wizard: Multiple accounts? Switching accounts when they get used up? I don't even think i can think of anything gayer
hikukomoru: I used Gemini to answer
Fault lies with Gemini
anathemaofmankind: I do the same with Gemini
Imagine paying for something that's available for free
anathemaofmankind: Just use multiple accounts
futurist_wizard: I remember you failed this question
hikukomoru: I don't care for your Ghibli slop
futurist_wizard: So I don't need it
futurist_wizard: Not like im some code monkey
futurist_wizard: I like the Ghibli drawings of the gpt models
rayanquitplayin: It’s the leading model rn
hikukomoru: only 20 bucks for advanced
futurist_wizard: I will never use Gemini
hikukomoru: Cheaper and better
anathemaofmankind: Gemini is better
anathemaofmankind: I already cancelled my ChatGPT sub
spicy.lemonade: where is qwen
okbut: But Gemini talks to me like a Gen Z
hikukomoru: I forgot chatgpt even existed
I only care about Gemini now
anathemaofmankind: 4o update kinda sucks.
It's so sycophantic
futurist_wizard: I don't even
st.sioux: deep sugon ligma
wellmeaningalien: dsl being?
futurist_wizard:
okbut: https://x.com/OpenAINewsroom/status/1910105151492575611
hikukomoru: I don't want to hear it
hikukomoru: Stop
futurist_wizard: I like blarting out absurd things that have happened
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st.sioux:
.histic: yeah, well said.
.histic:
hikukomoru: Quick
Someone Ghiblify this
anathemaofmankind: Luddites think of AI art in a vacuum.
They forget AI art is just part of a trillion dollar industry aimed to automate workers backed by massive companies and governments. The latter for science and reducing bureaucracy.
Even if AI art was stigmatized out of existence, other forms of automation will continue in a ceaseless tide.
You would have to somehow regulate or stigmatize all forms of AI to stop the main contention, the displacement of jobs, and loss of work considered as "intelligent".
And good luck doing that for the entire world
brain4brain: We should ban all antis off the internet
.histic: "hate me all you want, that doesn't change the fact that is what's going to happen" <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:based:1136264604788473946>
drewsni:
anathemaofmankind: Asmongold talks about the luddite twitter seething.
Very based takes and truth pilled from Zack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDuc932pToc&ab_channel=AsmongoldTV
.histic:
.histic:
zoermena: I should probably get X on my phone, I just have it as a back up for NSFW and wallpapers but there’s a lot of hidden gems.
drewsni: He’s likely currently modelling capex spending upwards due to the events of the last two weeks
drewsni: It’s all good, Dylan is the goat of datacenter analysis if you were unaware.
zoermena: I meant Dylan Patel but I didn’t click the link, I don’t have X so it can get problematic seeing who posted who. I didn’t know, my b.
drewsni: It was sarcasm there if you’re talking about him and not who he is referencing
zoermena: On the contrary this invites for the capex to go higher. For those who don’t know (y’all are extremely intelligent so you might know already) but this is the financial term for the amount of money invested into developing business in general.
zoermena: Interesting extremely likely due to word of mouth and new ships but saying that data center capex is going to 0 just seems stupid.
drewsni: It’s actually kinda crazy that it seems like this past week has been the largest difference between demand and capacity for almost every lab
drewsni: Almost every ai ceo, researcher, cluster janitor etc have been tweeting about their servers being fucked for the last week
drewsni: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1906097220849406248?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw
drewsni: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1906129475349487742?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw
drewsni: https://vxtwitter.com/basedjensen/status/1906158182596239490?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw
777agical: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
ldj: Funny coincidence, the creator of the benchmark followed me a bit before you pinged me
777agical: Gemini got there first, so full o3 maybe higher 👀
777agical: <@312370916820779040>
777agical: https://x.com/mark_k/status/1906106781232931199?s=46
st.sioux: poor sundar, no one cares
.histic: https://x.com/sundarpichai/status/1906141478029799873
free users now have access to 2.5 pro even on gemini's main website.
drewsni: kill this man /s
drewsni: ai slop
zoermena: I was 18 when I tried this.
zoermena: Incredible quality.
zoermena:
zoermena: I swear this is not meant to be NSFW but this is a prompt I tried when the first image gens released (SD) "a man with a futuristic white suit swimming in a pool of milk"
hikukomoru: Wow looks like you really can use different accounts to bypass rate limits
czdct: ?
st.sioux: aw
czdct: ofc not
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literallyvarane: But I think in terms of consumer level, if we assume 1/10th the price every ~12 months. That could place this within 5 years.
literallyvarane: The real barrier is just continuity and control. I’m sure Disney would LOVE a comic version of the entire marvel run lolol.
gamerbath: ghibli movies too cheap to meter 🥵
ailoveyoom: Cents per movie 🥵
gamerbath: That's actually really cheap for a full move. There's so much optimization you can do with video models because not that much changes from frame to frame most of the time, but I wonder how long it will take to get it down to something consumer level like $100 per movie
trojan09205: Anyone tried Google Veo
literallyvarane: Did some ULTRA ballpark math because I could.
Obviously the models aren’t good enough for it yet either in terms of resolution of (more importantly) continuity, but if you were to take a 90 minute movie and turn it into a 24FPS Ghibli film assuming 29¢/frame round trip, that’s roughly a $38,000 project.
gamerbath: that's so sweet
st.sioux:
okbut: Huge boomer yellow-character market
okbut: I wonder how good 4o is at making Tweety bird/minion memes
ldj: fixed
ldj: sorry major typo lol, I meant to say "still" not "stop"
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/woah-shocked-domino-gif-17459289
okbut: Ghibli co-founder makes 1 statement about his disgust in AI art generation
sarik0497: Indeed, and it's also why I doubt the lawsuit will really go anywhere. It seems more like a stunt in order to attract media attention than anything.
otub: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
hikukomoru: I should make one for some cash
fractalcomputer: The West has fallen. Billions must become retarded.
ailoveyoom: 😭
st.sioux: get ready for soccer moms to spend $100 a week on ghibli wrappers
hikukomoru: slopification of the internet (even more)
literallyvarane: I was literally screenshotting that lolol
zonchao: the internet is going to be 80% ghibli in a week
literallyvarane:
gamerbath: hell yeah
gamerbath: damn that's not bad at all
gamerbath: > this translates to roughly $0.02, $0.07, and $0.19 per generated image for low, medium, and high-quality square images, respectively.
gamerbath: ALREADY!!??!
gamerbath: YOOO NO WAY
ailoveyoom: https://openai.com/index/image-generation-api/
zonchao: https://fixupx.com/Hugh__Mann/status/1915074987850916019
zonchao: no live on nsf
ldj: Well tbh they’re still legally bound by the same values/mission as the non-profit
But Ilya made it clear at the start of OpenAI that they probably would eventually stop open sourcing things when capabilities get strong enough
okbut: What? Is this patreon exclusive or something
zonchao: first rvac v3
zonchao: we have seen
zonchao: but its the first one
zonchao: idk the #
zonchao: jk
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aero447: Also like 4.1 it's mid.
futurist_wizard: FISH
futurist_wizard: CORAL MENTIONED
hey1_1hey: Oh ffs
hey1_1hey: Benchmarks boutta make me best if its a big jump
drewsni:
gamerbath: hell yeah. i'm curious about the average reasoning tokens used though
.0xunkn0wn: waiting for benchmarks 🙏
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994
neon01197: https://tenor.com/view/ellipsis-bust-lord-have-mercy-gif-5606625988103215611
drewsni: holy fuck
.0xunkn0wn: DAMN
st.sioux: we dont talk about mr w
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
O3 pricing released, even cheaper per token than O1.
$40 per million output tokens compared to the $60 per million of O1.
and o4-mini pricing is $4 per million tokens, about the same cost per token as GPT-4.1
drewsni:
hey1_1hey: I've seen him around
hey1_1hey: Wiggers
drewsni: i dont feel so good anthropbros...
gamerbath: well, o3-mini is o3 but faster. I think o4-mini is o4 but faster
aero447: Kyle WHAT?
neon01197: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/16/openai-debuts-codex-cli-an-open-source-coding-tool-for-terminals/
drewsni: i just mean turns out deep research was this the whole time, (systems, not just search)
spicy.lemonade: the stream just started gang
aero447: It's literally mid.
hey1_1hey: Not sure
professorheaven: isnt o4 mini basically o3 but faster?
spicy.lemonade: just?
drewsni: so o3 is just shallow research? lol
hey1_1hey: If o3 can do this imagine what o4mini can do
futurist_wizard: Bareback
hey1_1hey: Get that shit outta here
hey1_1hey: Thats some crazy formatting bruh
srirachamayosauce:
hey1_1hey: This just made me bust
futurist_wizard: O4 searching the web for rule34
hikukomoru: Giggling and kicking my feet rn
drewsni: this just killed my startup
hey1_1hey: Its doing stuff that I dont even know whats its doing which is a good start
hey1_1hey: Yeah this is cooking
zoermena: AGI before GTA6?
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hey1_1hey: If it is I think I might change my AGI time line to -now-
hikukomoru: No way
hikukomoru: You don't look like that vro 🙏
777agical: No idea. Too many updates to keep up with now 😅
hey1_1hey: Is the new 4o better than o3 mini at coding or smth?
st.sioux: he's racist remember
joaoluz19: Europe and Asian included
hey1_1hey: If you look even close to this in real life you're chilling
joaoluz19: Bro we have people from all the world
hikukomoru: GOSLING
hikukomoru: RYAN GOSGO
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/flavioad/status/1905347584438251848?s=46
futurist_wizard: Thats no brazilian
joaoluz19: This is me
hey1_1hey: Well I'll stick to my big booby bikini mushroom lady thank you very much
futurist_wizard: <@688807313015963693> is this true you gay fennec
hey1_1hey: Sure sure
hikukomoru: I am innocent
hikukomoru: Blame <@937125337748348999> and <@465177408073498634> 🙏
trent_k: at this point why not just use a regular AI porn gen tho
hey1_1hey: WHY ARE HTEY CHILDREN
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Thats what they all say
hey1_1hey: Yeah yeah sure
hikukomoru: I DIDNT MAKE IT OK
hey1_1hey: THATS A LITERAL 5 YEAR OLD
hey1_1hey: Lets see them thenn
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Oh so BPD great
hikukomoru: For two different pfps
hey1_1hey: Do I want to see it?
hikukomoru: I have 2
hey1_1hey: No...
hikukomoru: Did U see mine <:coy:1187466404367175821>
hey1_1hey: I like mine <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ty again histic
hikukomoru: He's posted himself animefied
futurist_wizard: He probably looks like that gay fox
futurist_wizard: Don't think hes ever shown his face period
_cloudost: OMG I luv this one, gonna save it
hikukomoru: This reminds me I haven't seen Alejandro Ghibli'd yet
Only his gay fox pfp
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hey1_1hey: I have never been gang raped ☝️
hey1_1hey: That exaplins it
hikukomoru: I've never gotten mugged or felt threatened
Wtf is wrong with the UK vro
futurist_wizard: They usually gang raped you first then rob you
technocake.: I've only been mugged in NL
hey1_1hey: I mean if you are gonna mug someone who are you gonna mug. The petite 5'8 femboy or the 6'3 body builder named Steve
technocake.: Not really, it does happen though
futurist_wizard: Its not at daylight
hikukomoru: Wtf
hey1_1hey: Yeah sometimes, just happnes innit
hikukomoru: Getting mugged is a normal occurance in the UK???
futurist_wizard: 2 guys were eyeballing me like predators
gamerbath: comon please I just want that piece of utopia like what Pantheon gave me
gamerbath: I am wathcing the new black mirror season and why is it always dystopia 😭
hey1_1hey: Whats wrong?
futurist_wizard: I nearly got robbed at night
hey1_1hey: Yeah
technocake.: Yes.
hey1_1hey: He learning with you goes hard tho tbf
hikukomoru: "Only"???
spicy.lemonade: Are they stupid
spicy.lemonade: All they know is 4o mini
hey1_1hey: Works quite well
hey1_1hey: I usually just say no and walk off
spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard: I've nearly been robbed
hey1_1hey: I've only been mugged twice there
hey1_1hey: Eh its alright
futurist_wizard: Thats where most welsh crime is
spicy.lemonade: I hate normies
futurist_wizard: Cardiff is dangerous i thought
spicy.lemonade: Omfg
spicy.lemonade:
technocake.: no complaints
hey1_1hey: Yeah brighton is nice
technocake.: Brighton is great
hey1_1hey: So yeah about right
hey1_1hey: Rich, old, really racist dickheads
futurist_wizard: Bath is full of posh souls isn't it?
hey1_1hey: Thats such a shit hole
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maintcrew: im a elon glazer excuse my parlance
maintcrew: figures as in of course the anti elon shit is popular
spacetimetsunami: ?
precariousworlds.: That skit is genuinely a psychological weapon, have to resist urge to kill myself watching it
spacetimetsunami: mhm
maintcrew: figures
spacetimetsunami: works great lol
spacetimetsunami: blew up
spacetimetsunami: thats what i did
spacetimetsunami: yeah
spacetimetsunami: ohhhhhh youre talking about content
precariousworlds.: AI will either bring utopia, extinction, or brainrot like never seen before
maintcrew: that was my point
maintcrew: like if u say something specifically against elon like literally fuck elon or some shit its a cheat code for popularity on short form video content platforms
oooooooooog: wdyk
st.sioux: brainrot era
hikukomoru: wdym
spacetimetsunami: like what about it being anti elon
maintcrew: wtf do you mean wdym
spacetimetsunami: wdym
maintcrew: no i dont mean values, i mean specifically anti elon
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544>
spacetimetsunami: it was a brief comment
spacetimetsunami: dont care
fractalcomputer: I sense latent quibbles about my politics regarding the practitioners of the so-called moral sciences.
spacetimetsunami: a lot of this can be shown via explicity querying the models and looking at confidence percentile in API, as this is the methodology used to quantify value structures and preferences in LLMs
st.sioux: what thinking about reality does to a mf
hikukomoru:
oooooooooog: hahaha who isnt am i right chat!? lets all go for the barbeque and eat the fries.
spacetimetsunami: i mean, it does have anti trump and elon values, which is a start. efforts to quantify alignment in LLMs have been successful and we see pretty promising stuff right *now*. if that holds were good
fractalcomputer: Well perhaps I am in the mood to wish death upon all of mankind.
st.sioux: is fractalcomputt basedd?
fractalcomputer: Personally I believe that this same methodology ought to be applied to all my opponents, political, intellectual or otherwise.
precariousworlds.: Data log you find when exploring an abandoned vault experiment in fallout
maintcrew: if its anti elon/trump its like a game cheat code u can just insert in
hikukomoru: That joke determines whether everyone dies or not
spacetimetsunami: lmao
spacetimetsunami: pshhh idfk dont ask me
precariousworlds.: how so?
fractalcomputer: Every ethicist should be thrown off a cliff.
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st.sioux: but its deleted now
st.sioux: i saw it on a post on r/piratedgames
st.sioux: They are already past that, now that they can't tell it's AI they're starting to call it 'soulless' and to look for it in the 'eyes'
spicy.lemonade:
avizuradnb: Maybe persuade them to join our side. Ask an LLM how to convert the unbelievers.
.wolfnacht: And the bread they eat in morning is not bread, bcz the dough is kneaded by machine and baked by machine and everything's literally automated atm.
zonchao: if he posts on defending ai art more people will see it
zonchao: nobody will see it
wellmeaningalien: who rlly cares
maintcrew: wrong chat
zonchao: he will get banned
wellmeaningalien: ok maybe u should tbh it would be funny
spicy.lemonade: What
wellmeaningalien: OH MY LORD NO
zonchao: all the big artist hate andys lurk there
zonchao: do it on defending ai art
wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848>
zonchao: banned
spicy.lemonade: Lmao
spicy.lemonade: I should post my findings on artistshate
wellmeaningalien: they make up some schizo excuse about y ai artwill never be art and then they glaze Ai art when they can't tell it is
.wolfnacht: don't check the one under that. i was too compelled to react on that one
spicy.lemonade: Lmaoo
spicy.lemonade: I’ll just have a smug face
wellmeaningalien: spicy ur message is literally the most hearted message in the channel
spicy.lemonade: Anytime an artists says they can always tell
.wolfnacht: it's working
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I consider this a win
spicy.lemonade: No
wellmeaningalien: hey check the message now
avizuradnb: Do you have a long-term plan for this? <@471334973379706900>
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
anathemaofmankind: I think I'll go sleep
anathemaofmankind: Someone liked your AI picture <@471334973379706900>
avizuradnb: Maybe they can be converted
avizuradnb: 🙄
avizuradnb: Your detection software should be updated
st.sioux: ⚠️ furry detected ⚠️
anathemaofmankind: All their politeness make me forget that they are luddites
They must be eviscerated
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trent_k: his 5000 word essay about how it's not his fault he's fat and eating too much has nothing to do with ending up fat is one of the funniest things ive ever read
trent_k: he's very funny
trent_k: altho
futurist_wizard: There probably isn't a galactic federation
trent_k: fat dropout retard scamming money
trent_k: he's a punk bitch
bob082957: Yeh I want the blueprints for the replicator to
spicy.lemonade: I recon the ASI will be doing the negotiations
spicy.lemonade: Do we have to become a hive mind <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: What happens after we get accepted into the galactic federation
fractalcomputer: Pointless anthropomorphism.
sarik0497: Honestly, I'd not be surprised either.
We (humans) are already observing a small tribe on Sentinel Island, trying not to interfere with them. It's not entirely insane to then imagine that far more advanced beings are doing the same with us, waiting for us to reach a certain threshold before making contact.
trojan09205: I use that approach bro. You can get the bigger smarter models to do the thinking and then send that chat log to a dumber cheaper model. I do that when I want to generate a Mermaid diagram based on advanced thinking. Usually even gpt-4o-mini is fine for mermaid and I avoid paying the extra cost
trojan09205: Yes it should be
zoermena: It’s for every message AFAIK, I doubt you send that many messages but it’s easy to distribute it between o4 minis and o3 for a day
literallyvarane: I don’t actually think I’m going to run into the rate limits, I’m just curious exactly how it’s tracked.
literallyvarane: Yeah
zoermena: Do you have plus?
literallyvarane: Is it a practical point to switch the model down to 4o for secondary questions etc?
literallyvarane: Quick question. When OpenAI talks about rate limits for its models, is that LITERALLY any message?
For example, if I’m using o3, I give it some big prompt with a big response, then ask it to quickly just release the first word of that response, is *literally any* response from the model, regardless of length, counted?
zoermena: I think I’ll believe we have AGI as soon as it starts building semi complex excel models on its own. It’s what I understand and can be confident of telling if it’s AGI or not within my skill set. If I was a programmer maybe I’d set another goal.
xskydragon0: 2027, I think it's too soon for AGI... Maybe 2030. But I'm agree, ASI will come six months next AGI
fractalcomputer: I might agency my fluids all over the place.
fractalcomputer: I am so agentic and fluid right now.
spicy.lemonade: an AGI would just make it much much better and more agentic and fluid
zoermena: A super intelligent system, capable of making novel breakthroughs that would take decades in years time
spicy.lemonade: in various fields
spicy.lemonade: current AI already surpases human inteligence
.wolfnacht: artificial seductive intelligence
spicy.lemonade: if we achive agi 2027 asi comes at most 6 months after
spicy.lemonade: whats your def of asi?
fractalcomputer: I only use non-Archimedean fields.
zoermena: Vibe based prediction
zoermena: If we achieve AGI by 2027 I suspect ASI 2030
spicy.lemonade: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
spicy.lemonade: theyre all the same thing
spicy.lemonade: ASI = day of judgement = non human inteligence arives on earth
zoermena: Please 🙏🏼
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.wolfnacht: the day of judgement
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alejandrozarzuelo: nah
alejandrozarzuelo: and give you more ammunition for next time even if you are nice this one?
hikukomoru: You know I'm always nice 🥰
Just tell me
alejandrozarzuelo: if i tell you you'll endlessly tease me about it no matter what I say so i wont
try being nicer
zoermena: Based
trojan09205: so that link or others will do haha. this is the repo i follow to snag free content online
https://fmhy.net/videopiracyguide#live-tv-sports
sidebar has the category types
hikukomoru: What're you reading
zoermena: Dog shit administration poop fart
hikukomoru: What are you studying
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean i am cheap lol
trojan09205: It's much better in actual print version but theyre kind of expensive
trojan09205: https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Sandman-1989/Issue-1?id=14226&s=&readType=1
alejandrozarzuelo: ill check it out
trojan09205: my fav comic book of all time
alejandrozarzuelo: nope
zoermena: I hate college fucking dog shit forcing me to learn piss and poop
trojan09205: have you ever read the Sandman
trojan09205: absolutely bro. ive watched the series twice cause its really amazing. basically determinism vs. multi-worlds hypothesis in a captivating story
alejandrozarzuelo: nah the ones i tend to read on exam season are usually very mild in the lewd aspect haha
hikukomoru: Alejandro you horndog
hikukomoru: Visual Novels?
Like those hentai games?
alejandrozarzuelo: its exam season and its my tradition to read visual novels now for relaxation, but maybe ill watch it if i have some time
alejandrozarzuelo: thanks for the recommendation
trojan09205: Sure bro ❤️
trojan09205: https://hydrahd.sh/watchseries/devs-online-free
popsiclejohnithan: I'll need to check it out thank you.
trojan09205: You can stream it
trojan09205: its something eckhart tolle said in a video i watched recently
alejandrozarzuelo: is it available for non hulu players
popsiclejohnithan: I pretty much just said the same thing twice here lmao.
popsiclejohnithan: That's an intresting way to view it.
trojan09205: agree
trojan09205: I can't remember the actual quote but its something like 'its more important HOW we ask the question than trying to figure it out'
popsiclejohnithan: When Superintelligence happens we'll probably have to connect with them just to understand their findings.
popsiclejohnithan: I wonder what the fundamental limit of understanding the universe we have as Humans, i wonder how long it will be before we are just unable to comprehend things past the line of human understanding.
popsiclejohnithan: The more we learn about existence the more questions we get.
trojan09205: the funniest thing is seeing scientists so adamant about their interpretations of reality at the macro scale when we barely even scratched the surface of the micro
trojan09205: them small homeboys live in a different reality. but we are made up of them so it beats me what 'reality' we actually live in
popsiclejohnithan: All the magical stuff happens at the smallest level.
popsiclejohnithan: It's wild lol.
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hey1_1hey: "Please create an anatomically accurate horse"
st.sioux: like
spicy.lemonade: the value of my ranking went to zero in a day
st.sioux: coding is so boring its the worst part of the job as a swe
sarik0497: Don’t give MichMach ideas
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/emoji-turning-smiling-smile-laughing-gif-25966841
spicy.lemonade: im happy
spicy.lemonade: that got him noteriety
spicy.lemonade: who lost his only hobby
spicy.lemonade: as a competative programmer
hey1_1hey: Why is there no horse cock?
spicy.lemonade: yeah
hey1_1hey: I mean I like drawing, programming and most of STEM. You don't see me crying about how AI is better than me. I am relived when it is
.histic:
sarik0497: It refuses me everytime.
It just doesn’t like me, I guess 😦
hikukomoru: Please replace everyone 🙏 🙏
spicy.lemonade: ai is only good for replacing things people dont wanna do like office jobs coding and stem-artists
hey1_1hey: Dont give me ideas for my next generation
zoermena: That’s weird I’ve seen some trademarked content I think
hikukomoru: Zaddy 🔥
spicy.lemonade: lol
sarik0497: ”But if you wanna replace the boring stuff like “programming”, then it’s fine!”
hikukomoru: Furry inflation artists 💔
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/xi-xi-jinping-dancing-club-gif-9196037799698410856
hey1_1hey: Artists should rename their profession to Chief bitching officer of the second command
sarik0497: Trademarked.
hikukomoru: XI JINPING SAVE US!
zoermena: What’s TM
otub: im still getting dall-e 3 output sadly
_cloudost: "AI ART SUCKS, ALSO BAN AI ART BECAUSE IT SUCKS" -Artists
sarik0497: Weird. I made a few pics already to a friend (it’s really strict with TM stuff, though)
a1c4p0ne:
.histic:
sarik0497: Inb4 R2 comes out and kicks everyone’s ass
zoermena: Use sora
technocake.: I dont have it on plus
st.sioux: this shit is WILD
hey1_1hey: Wait what is this brother
hey1_1hey: ITS SO GOOD
hey1_1hey: BRO
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steven_the_frog: Why should I bother doing a tricky deep refactor now when I could wait 3 hours and do it with o3.
This is not good for my productivity
.wolfnacht: anyways i'm gonna sleep....either i'm gonna be waking up disappointed or in AGI timeline.
thedon7075: with the upcoming models it will be begin to flatten more, probably around o6
thedon7075: slight diminishing returns
.wolfnacht: fake, it's not exponential
thedon7075: ai explained in his newest video claims he has tested o3 briefly
zoermena: If true the magnitude of improvement could’ve slowed down? I would argue that due to its rushed dev it wasn’t as big of a jump
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/thexeophon/status/1912523048411951223?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
futurist_wizard: I do not care about thr upcumming releases
metaldragon01: Called it
futurist_wizard: Entering my grinch era
hey1_1hey: I will now take my 100k job as a detective thank you very much
hey1_1hey: o3 full (3 strawberries) o4-mini (4 small strawberries)
hey1_1hey: Would be hype
neon01197: maybe
neon01197: o4 mini aswell
neon01197: https://x.com/ananyaku/status/1912523195175039398
_cloudost: 1:58
himekokatagiri: but you need windows 11 😠
himekokatagiri: the program is finally usable now
himekokatagiri: paint with AI
zonchao: its obviously better
himekokatagiri: I used it the other day man
himekokatagiri: This is a big deal
himekokatagiri: https://medium.com/@Onecooltip/microsoft-paint-adds-copilot-remove-background-feature-a-game-changer-for-image-editing-8a4fc71ffad3
literallyvarane: Probably true tbh
.wolfnacht: grok is down
metaldragon01: Or something else close to it's capabilities. I think o3 is only dropping now because google released 2.5 tbh
professorheaven: until R3 drops
literallyvarane: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ldj: I think its only O3 announcement today tbh,
_cloudost:
himekokatagiri: in a different layer
himekokatagiri: the 'shadow' is just the drawing
_cloudost: Satori legs should have shadow from the left side too, human error in animating?
himekokatagiri: get better clothes though satori's default clothes are too frumpy
himekokatagiri: I wish 😭
himekokatagiri: Your Google-fu is good!
_cloudost: Me few hours before o3 gets released and turns the world into science fiction forever
hikukomoru: My opinion is that o3 is going to be only a bit better than Gemini 2.5, not to mention super expensive compared to Gemini which is free
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fractalcomputer: You've profoundly misunderstood all that I've said thus far if that is your take on what I am arguing for. My whole point is that the notion of reality in itself is utterly meaningless and holds no epistemological sway.
sarik0497: I remember that NASA made an estimation at some point, and the conclusion was that if their mathematical probability of existence was correct, then there might be a handful of similar intelligent beings out there in our galaxy.
spacetimetsunami: No i was arguing against that the entire time
oooooooooog: wdym not enough time?
maintcrew: i think what i want to say is that theres not infinite planets and suns
for one it isnt enough time since the big bang
darkstar0818: If we don't question axioms how could we possibly pick which ones to make up?
spacetimetsunami: yeah maybe maybe
spacetimetsunami: questioning how real things are is fine, questioning if reality is real is nonsense
maintcrew: honestly i think surely yes
like think about how many random shit happened "just right" for us to get here
in the first place, suitable planet
self replicating cells
multi cellular life
right conditions of expansion to multiple species of monolithic multi cellular life
one of those species does the unthinkable and decides to live on the land for some reason
dinosaurs and any other dead end species happen to die somehow
opposable thumbs for tools to actually surpass caveman
no predators, diseases, or grand extinction events
and somehow do all of this in less time than it takes your sun to blow up
darkstar0818: nod, so business as usual.
sarik0497: One could say that he’s creating a discord <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
st.sioux: i don't know
fractalcomputer: Apparently almost everything.
spacetimetsunami: is a good way to quantify i think
spacetimetsunami: like how many per how many galaxies
spacetimetsunami: then how rare do you think intelligent life is in the universe
sarik0497: There’s also the possibility that we are being watched right now. We do like to observe the unusual unseen ourselves, after all.
st.sioux: haven't been detected
darkstar0818: You cannot go telling a discord full of people that the very concepts of existence/reality are ill defined and expect agreement, dear god man... what could possibly remain of their beliefs!
spacetimetsunami: engaging in convo
oooooooooog: infinite stuff is a given, even if it's just caused by quantum fluctuations becoming real on a large scale, then being separated via expansion of the universe (or any other means)
those are low probability, but under infinite space that still means it's happening infinitely often.
spacetimetsunami: nerd
spacetimetsunami: according to that
spacetimetsunami: weve been vocal, if life is super abudnant then we should be killed
spacetimetsunami: why hasent that happened to us then
st.sioux: if a species is to be detected either voluntarily or accidentally, their home galaxy and all galaxies where they are stationed will be eliminated immediately
maintcrew: large swaths of void serve no purpose
maintcrew: no i meant infinite as infinite stuff
oooooooooog: for convenience.
spacetimetsunami: maybe yeah
gamerbath: <@560984241526013954> why is your username the same as ur password?
spacetimetsunami: it is 3rd dimensionally endless
maintcrew: less likely than us just being the only ones due to the probability of such an advanced sentience being there
spacetimetsunami: still infinite
spacetimetsunami: some infinities can be bigger than others
oooooooooog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_of_the_universe if it's flat, than yes, it is literally infinite
hikukomoru: Infinite universe doesn't mean infinite possibilities
spacetimetsunami: they simply prefer not to be seen by us
maintcrew: i dont think the infinite part is true
its infinite as in constantly growing
spacetimetsunami: You could just argue that they are too advanced to detect
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.wolfnacht: bold of you to assume people here have healthy sleep cycle
sweetievee__33649: do you just bring the worst out of people then 🥀
st.sioux: after 10pm when the europeans are aslpee or whenever idk
hikukomoru: It's not always like this
This server is only low IQ when I'm around
Usually it's fine most of the time
.wolfnacht: peak mental instability here is people yelling "AI WINTER"
hey1_1hey: Idk, I was gonna @ you and then that guys name popped up
hikukomoru: This is the third time someone tried to ping me and pinged that guy instead
sweetievee__33649: oh thank god ill fit right in then
hikukomoru: Who the fuck is KommonKrait
hikukomoru: Don't worry, this is the local schizo
Most of us are just horndogs rather than schizos
.wolfnacht: Fractal
hey1_1hey: Sorry who ever that is
hey1_1hey: Fuck wrong @
hey1_1hey: <@990426980279283735>
hey1_1hey: When are you expecting?
.wolfnacht: okay lets talk back abt horny fetishes.
sweetievee__33649: is it normally like this or did i catch you people at peak mental instability
.wolfnacht: yes a big one.
sweetievee__33649: do you just have collection of these
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/serina-meds-now-blue-archive-requiem-gif-14197395946152183428
hikukomoru: This is too schizo for me man
.wolfnacht: there's a structure of freemasonry. The old guys we see are just the ones who entered.
hey1_1hey: Oh thats where that 2b2t group came from then huh
sweetievee__33649: i was just having a bit of a read of it and it seems like someone just thought of the most jumbled stuff and spat it out onto a page
.wolfnacht: it's a conspiracy coomunity meta, since ages. They like to mix everything up.
st.sioux: they're just like old men who get together
st.sioux: why do people think freemasons are a conspiracy
futurist_wizard: Its like every conspiracy rolled into one
.wolfnacht: 🥰 glad u'r back
.wolfnacht: oh, u just don't have roles.
drewsni: Did someone leave?
st.sioux: who left?
.wolfnacht: 😳
hey1_1hey: You're really living up to your name <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht: 😔 did i bully him ? by mistake
.wolfnacht: wtf he left the server
.wolfnacht: Hence, i can prove i ain't anti-semetic
.wolfnacht: I like Abigail Shapiro
hey1_1hey: I would like to say they are not *my* weird fetishes. I just have knowledge on very obscure feitshes and its fun to talk about
drewsni: Glad you clarified
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destrucules: o1 > R1 too
destrucules: Vibes wise, I'd say R1 ≈ GPT-4.5 > Grok 3 > V3 0324 > Claude 3.7 Sonnet > Gemini 2.0 Pro
destrucules: By GPQA, reported scores, Grok 3 > GPT-4.5 > V3 0324. By MMLU-Pro, reported scores, GPT-4.5 > V3 0324 > Grok 3. By AIME 2024 reported scores, V3 0324 > Grok 3 > GPT-4.5. so each model is first, second, and third between these three benchmarks. But there's also a ranking in terms of generality: MMLU-Pro > GPQA > AIME 2024. So GPT-4.5 > V3 0324 > Grok 3 just trying to balance the rankings. But the difference on MMLU-Pro is big between GPT-4.5 and V3 0324, but small between V3 0324 and Grok 3. The difference on GPQA is large between Grok 3 and V3 0324. Similarly, Grok 3 does much better on GPQA than GPT-4.5, but GPT-4.5 does much better on MMLU-Pro - 4 and 6 points respectively. So for that reason, I think the most defensible ranking is GPT-4.5 > Grok 3 > V3 0324, with Gemini 2.0 Pro and Claude 3.7 Sonnet filling the fourth and fifth places, not sure in which order
destrucules: I'd put Grok 3 in first, but possibly in second or third pending third party evals. GPT-4.5 seems to be in first unless Grok 3 is in first, in which case it comes in second. V3 0324 is not smarter than 4.5, though it does do better in maths and coding by a noticeable margin. All are roughly at parity, but if I had to pick a first, it would not be V3
destrucules: Not sure it's decisively better than 4.5 and Grok 3, but it's up there. Probably third best pure LLM, maybe second
.wolfnacht: time's already flying fast but i wish it was a little more fast
.wolfnacht: (V4 + R3) 🥵
.wolfnacht: makes me wonder what their expectations are for v4
.wolfnacht: and r2 would be stacked on it.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: not surprising considering v3-0324 is the best base model
destrucules: April, May, June
destrucules: June is only three months away
destrucules: OpenAI and Anthropic are both dropping new shit in June. Llama 4 is still pending. Qwen3 is pending. QwQ-Max is pending. Qwen3 based QwQ are pending. Baidu, Tencent, Moonshot, and Sonar are also in this. Grok 3 API is pending, as is Grok 3 reasoning full.
destrucules: Does it really matter that much when, within weeks, six other labs will match it?
spacetimetsunami: Like I’m not saying I think that will happen, just super curious about what you guys think
spacetimetsunami: What happens if deepseek r2 drops and is just better than everything , lol
brain4brain: It felt much smarter tho
brain4brain: https://x.com/_akhaliq/status/1904388245330223343?s=61
spicy.lemonade: dont think we need 100% on arc agi2 for agi
spicy.lemonade: conscidering some of these questions have been shown to have multiple answers
spicy.lemonade: maybe 90% then
alejandrozarzuelo: Because just because someone hasn't put the effort themselves into maximising their logic, doesn't mean that they couldn't do it if they wanted
Thus, the line to beat is the one of 100% arc-2, possibly a new arc-3 will be created where groups of humans don't get 100% but instead like 80% and that 80% will be the score to beat
spicy.lemonade: how
alejandrozarzuelo: No
alejandrozarzuelo: But the average person could get a PhD
spicy.lemonade: ig
ldj: I'll look more into the benchmarks tm tho
alejandrozarzuelo: Not what anyone does achieve
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah but this is because it's supposed to measure what anyone can achieve
ldj: 3.7 yes, since it's a hybrid model its basically confirmed trained reasoning data yea
4.5 we're unsure of though
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: though im never using a non reasoning model for math
spicy.lemonade: nice
spicy.lemonade: heavily optimized for math
spicy.lemonade: overall better than 3.7
destrucules: Scores between Claude 3.7 Sonnet and GPT-4.5, definitely in the GPT-4.5 regime, on general benchmarks, and then outperforms GPT-4.5 and Claude 3.7 Sonnet on maths and coding
professorheaven: I think it’s likely that 3.7 sonnet and 4.5 is trained on some synthetic data from reasoning models as well judging by the convos I’ve had with them
thedon7075: deepseek delivers again
thedon7075:
spicy.lemonade: average ceo
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_3sphere: Just a subset of the whole biography idea
joaoluz19: I also think there is a chance that we will stagnate, there is nothing that gives us such certainty.
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyZschwFN-c
sarik0497: Also just what the heck "consciousness" really is. It's also why AI is so fascinating because you can't really prove nor deny that it's already conscious, because we have no clue.
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/overwhelming-evidence-of-chinese-government-is-running-organ-harvesting/video/2b851c7493406a517162e26962ab4212
okbut: Novice idea: The "mind upload" involves collecting the individual's speech to text, and gathering RLHF by having the individual input what the LLM predicts their chain of thought to arrive at such speech input each time, until its predictions of the individual's chain of thought are deemed accurate enough
joaoluz19: The part I imagine is just leaving it as an exercise for ASI lol
sarik0497: Well, that and being sceptical. It's like when people come asking if they should go to College now that "AGI is only 2-3 years away".
Even if there was a 80% probability that it'd be out within a year, I would still say "go to school", because you do not want to sit around, and wait for something that might not come.
joaoluz19: So what I think is that our knowledge is limited precisely by the dubious research methodologies that most laboratories have
_3sphere: only physically feasible way to grab the entire structure exactly
sarik0497: True, but compared to having to directly transfer the entirety of a human brain to a PC, it seems "easier"
joaoluz19: I think what you said makes sense, maybe it's a matter of not believing in the singularity itself.
_3sphere: My current hope for true mind uploading is slicing-then-microscope
_3sphere: Making an artificial neuron that's "directly compatible with the remaining bio neurons but has an API now" seems extremely hard
sarik0497: The way I can see it happen "easiest" would be to perform the Ship of Theseus method, and then use the "new" brain to transfer data somewhere else.
_3sphere:
joaoluz19: I don't remember anything about the upload, but the decode part just basically puts a scanner, magnet ressonance generally on the individual with a set of words and makes a model that predicts which state of the scanner represents the word he is thinking of next.
sarik0497: True, but as it is right now, our knowledge of the brain is still limited, and the stuff we do know points to us being really far away due to just the quantity of compute our brain runs.
joaoluz19: For the hint that it's possible, first someone has to go after it. The OpenAI case shows just that, they discovered things like the idea of scale _after_ they were determined to build a really powerful AI.
sarik0497: I know, but people still have different views on when the Singularity will happen. Even something that seems highly plausible like LEV is still a pipedream. Many hope and dream of seeing it in the 2030-2050s, but we have no way of knowing if it'll come.
okbut: Is the idea to upload the "words" being fathomed by the mind or to encode/decode it as words?
joaoluz19: There are a few possibilities I was starting to explore before I abandoned neuroscience. Some of them might be that you can extract "identity" or "consciousness" which are different things from overlapping vector subspaces. I mean, you wouldn't need to measure "everything" of the brain
sarik0497: Trust me when I say this: The moment there is a tiny hint that it's possible, the money will come pouring. Look at AI not too long ago and now as an example, and at gene therapies before and after CRISPR became well known.
_3sphere: https://gwern.net/difference
okbut: Hmm yeah I see that being dubbed a biography upload
bob082957: Like zuk
_3sphere: The first "mind uploads" will be AIs made to model human psychology and fitted to an individual based on various records, with lots of debate about whether that counts as a mind upload
joaoluz19: I'm talking about the group of people who really believe in singularity and are still like that.
okbut: Primates are so costly for pre-clinicals, I think the first cost-effective mind uploads will use external devices
joaoluz19: Current electrodes are not scalable, nanorobots are a possibility and I have already seen a work by a researcher from Portugal on, don't know of any others.
_3sphere: A diary and social media data export are still the leading mind upload tech
sarik0497: I think that's mostly due to
A) People don't really think or know about the Singularity.
And B) The Singularity can still be far, far away for all we know.
okbut: But oh man the billions that Neuralink had to throw at beauracracy alone for Neuralink
_3sphere: so it catches everything about your mind
_3sphere: idk, for mind uploading this would have to run for years and years
joaoluz19: There are already many successful cases like Neuralink and I think that since 2022 it will be possible to do semantic and syntactic extraction, that is, the meaning of what you are thinking and what words you are thinking.
_3sphere: https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/synchrons-brain-computer-interface-clears-year-long-safety-study
hikukomoru:
_3sphere: The stentrodes that recently got past some trials might help
_3sphere: Probably needs too many probes?
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professorheaven: Efficiency lowers prices, but 4.5 had the same efficiency gains plus more over 4o so why was it remarkably more expensive? Explain that pls
spicy.lemonade: og gpt 4 costed like 65$ per mil token
spicy.lemonade: which costs more than models today
spicy.lemonade: and 3.5
spicy.lemonade: this is very obvious if you look at scale of gpt 3
spicy.lemonade: price/= scale
spicy.lemonade: pricing doesnt prove that at all
spicy.lemonade: no
professorheaven: That’s complete bullshit, the pricing disproves that
joaoluz19: How exactly?
himekokatagiri: Running a demoralization op
himekokatagiri: Okay I read this guy's post history he's a lunatic
spicy.lemonade: they will unironically fit the stereotype of copying
spicy.lemonade: for a proof of concept from people who had the compute to test
spicy.lemonade: which come from waiting
spicy.lemonade: deepseek can only realy rely on efficiency gains
spicy.lemonade: as stated on epochAI website
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 is 3x 4o
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 is not 10x 4o
joaoluz19: Me too brother in ASI
joaoluz19: Exactly. No one promised singularity in 2025.
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735
brain4brain: I shall remain faithful that the singularity will happen
himekokatagiri: or idk maybe it's outrage bait
himekokatagiri: I think he got it better than us
himekokatagiri: OP is just bitter
joaoluz19: Singularity members:
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k99f0f/young_people_dont_live_like_youve_got_forever/
okbut: Imagine Password Saver is a brain cluster
aero447:
zonchao: reddit is talking about vandalizing his motor chair....these people are so cooked
himekokatagiri: <:the_horror:1136585527173337118>
playstation.6: Noland Arbaugh patient 1 can use a mouse curser with his imagination.
Patient 2 can play CSGO
ldj: I wouldn't say they reached GPT-4.5 level
GPT-4.5 still has some signficant room over Deepseek V3.1 in multiple ways.
But simultaneously is doing so with a hand tied behind its back, because they purposely didn't do any main reasoning RL for GPT-4.5
meanwhile we know for the Deepseek V3 model that they did train on such data, and so it seems likely that Deepseek V3.1 did too, especially considering that the area that Deepseek V3.1 had some of the biggest leap in was AIME, which is competition math.
ldj: Do you mean with Deepseek V3.1?
himekokatagiri: how is he writing with his brain
himekokatagiri: how
playstation.6: How many threads? It must be the 6000 thread model
zonchao: https://x.com/ALScyborg/status/1916630186382291242?
himekokatagiri: I hope this one is better
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anathemaofmankind: That makes sense
hikukomoru: Angry emoji
anathemaofmankind: Since you're apparently the expert here
anathemaofmankind: What do you think this means <@505313122802728972>
spicy.lemonade: nah thats evil
trent_k: https://hivemoderation.com/ai-generated-content-detection
trent_k: first of all very funny that it can't detect 4o images. but second - upload someone's pics to this site and then use inspect element to make it say it's AI generated
zonchao: 💢 💢
trent_k: i just had a funny idea
trent_k: wait
spicy.lemonade: loll
anathemaofmankind: That is crazy
trent_k: no <@471334973379706900>, push harder. let them catch you. make them paranoid so they accuse each other
anathemaofmankind: Broooooooooooo
alejandrozarzuelo: or youll be cooked
alejandrozarzuelo: <@471334973379706900> dont push it tooooooooo hard
trent_k: its never been so over
trent_k: its over
hikukomoru: Not you too
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mello-death-note-anime-stare-gif-19147215
trent_k: 4o is just
zonchao: 💀
trent_k: dalle was bad for artists
spicy.lemonade: this is insane
trent_k: loooooool
zonchao: r/Japanesepeopletwitter
spicy.lemonade: and the mods love my art
spicy.lemonade: same server btw
spicy.lemonade:
trent_k:
anathemaofmankind: What does this even mean
trent_k:
spicy.lemonade: someone in an art server
memlaswaif: who is this
zonchao: ouhhhhhh 😭😭😭😭😭
trent_k: its funny to make them bug out
spicy.lemonade: watch the cope from inside
spicy.lemonade: <@688807313015963693> they didnt realize
anathemaofmankind: What would you even gain from this
futurist_wizard: <@688807313015963693> artists haven't clocked yet Alejandro
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spicy.lemonade: mostly bc of arc agi score
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
joaoluz19: It's over
memlaswaif: remember when o3 announced and everyone thought agi achieved
alejandrozarzuelo: ... I am surprised since you seem to disagree with the CS stablishment (who is famous for being bearish)
I cannot say you are wrong, but i hope that you are
spicy.lemonade: not even gary believes that
spicy.lemonade: what is bros definition
fractalcomputer: Hell, maybe even past the 70s.
spicy.lemonade: 50 is crazy
alejandrozarzuelo: nah its '29 for me
fractalcomputer: Somewhere past the 50s.
spicy.lemonade: dec 2027 bro
alejandrozarzuelo: for AGI
alejandrozarzuelo: what is your timeline
fractalcomputer: From my perspective literally everyone here is still high on hopium.
spicy.lemonade: 💀
alejandrozarzuelo: its sad to see
alejandrozarzuelo: now everyone has stopped huffing hopium and we have come down to earth
alejandrozarzuelo: i remember when people were optimistic and thought AGI 26
alejandrozarzuelo: idk, then i guess we could have very short lived advances on one particular branch
spicy.lemonade: what would it be able to make breakthroughs in
fractalcomputer: I personally would guess mathematical physics. Not because I think mathematical physics is for silly idiots, no, but because I think there's a lot more data amenable to use.
spicy.lemonade: like next year if frontier math is like 90%
fractalcomputer: We're talking about near-term advances.
alejandrozarzuelo: yes, but we are talking about approaching an artificial GENERAL intelligence, unless im reading the conversation wrong
joaoluz19: I'll be 26
spicy.lemonade: combinatronics would closely align with its computing olympiad abilities. so itl probably be a combinatronics problem
fractalcomputer: Doing arithmetic geometry requires a very different level of abstraction and conceptual machinery than say, combinatorics or graph theory.
memlaswaif: partial differential equation?
memlaswaif: <:cutethink:708400862833410079>
joaoluz19: In english is PDE
futurist_wizard: Go live life
futurist_wizard: Its just more embarrassing to be into this when you're young
spicy.lemonade: more llm based
spicy.lemonade: AI seems good at those today
spicy.lemonade: probably combinatorics or set theory
alejandrozarzuelo: so if there is a breakthrough in math then all of math should be "automatizeable"
alejandrozarzuelo: but we COULD do any if we wanted
memlaswaif: I find it weird u old people r so in it I have been schizo since i was like 12 <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
alejandrozarzuelo: more like a subbranch
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sieventer: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
sieventer: <#1136231504440201216>
agezes: no problem
agezes: if its not allowed ill deleted myself
agezes: basically the registration for the beta
agezes: can i share the link here?
agezes: its like an asian mithology rpg
agezes: https://tenor.com/view/china-chinese-where-winds-meet-wimmerrad-gif-26554145
agezes: its ''where winds meet''
agezes: but i need people to share a link for a game
agezes: ey guys maybe not really related
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/cloud9crypto-twitter-digibyte-time-decentralized-gif-17753062
spicy.lemonade: 2032 at latest
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/it-is-known-game-of-thrones-it%27s-understood-everyone-knows-we-know-gif-9361879955269503159
aero447: 2035.
spicy.lemonade: who has their explicit reasons
spicy.lemonade: unless its ssi
spicy.lemonade: they wouldnt
brain4brain: I don’t understand why would company gatekept AGI and not announce it
fractalcomputer: But no, you really do not unless you have an implicit idea of what intelligence is.
spicy.lemonade: yes
fractalcomputer: Suppose I went to a bunch of mediaeval peasants and asked them about the Sun. Some would define it as a bright glowing thing in the sky, or hell, if I went far enough back in time, they'd probably call it the eye of the Sky Father or some bullshit like that; but none of that gets us anywhere closer to knowing and understanding what the Sun is, a massive concentration of stellar gasses undergoing fusion under its own gravitational pressure.
spicy.lemonade: i just know what it should be able to do
spicy.lemonade: i dont expect things to be one to one
spicy.lemonade: it would be like expecting us to build a fully functioning bird from scratch to truly achieve flight
spicy.lemonade: like flight
spicy.lemonade: this goes for all human technological predictions
fractalcomputer: Yes, obviously many people have a vague idea of artificial general intelligence and the capabilities that should entail; but that is not enough. We cannot say what this so-called AGI based on the vague predilections of the masses.
spicy.lemonade: I hate when im having a discussion and the opposite party brings up random latin fallacies like we are in a court
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/fight-me-come-on-the-matrix-keanu-reeves-neo-gif-17795234
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: don't bring God into this heathen
fractalcomputer: Or like God.
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum?wprov=sfla1
spicy.lemonade: doesnt matter if i dont know what it is
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: agi is a feeling like love, it doesn't need a definition
spicy.lemonade: for capability
spicy.lemonade: its just a goal
spicy.lemonade: giverally the same with differences
spicy.lemonade: everyone has a vague idea of what agi can do and should do such as ability to do human cognitive tasks
fractalcomputer: How do you know what artificial general intelligence is if you do not understand what intelligence is?
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hey1_1hey: Almost got band
futurist_wizard: You all act 13
hey1_1hey: I was gonna make a joke about my age then
hikukomoru: Or am I tripping
ailoveyoom: 💀
hikukomoru: Wait weren't you 12
hey1_1hey: I imagine you to be like 15-16
hey1_1hey: Oh thank god
hikukomoru: I thought MichMach was like 16 or smth
ailoveyoom: Nah bro I'm 20 😭
hey1_1hey: NO SHOT
hikukomoru: Wait MichMach is 30?
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: You try and give handies to all tanks screaming MEDIC at you. Its hard work yanno
sarik0497: Lol. Didn’t we already figure out that we’re around the same age?
hikukomoru: No
futurist_wizard: Did he reject your advances?
oooooooooog: they are still considered men
ailoveyoom: I meant like your handie sucks 😔
oooooooooog: no
oooooooooog: well
hikukomoru: Oh so he's like Trent-tier old
oooooooooog: nearing centurion
hey1_1hey: Are men with ED not considered men anymore?
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: Are penis' not classed as penis' if they are flaccid now?
hikukomoru: Mythical creatures
I've only seen them in animes
ailoveyoom: 💀
ailoveyoom: Ngl I thought you were like 40
ailoveyoom: 0 cause the penises are all flaccid
sarik0497: I hope you’re right, my dude. Luckily I’m only 28, so I pray
hey1_1hey: Would it be a good hate fuck or no?
hey1_1hey: Your guess is as good as mine
hey1_1hey: If you not a gooner then how many penises am I holding up?
hikukomoru: Fuck then kill eachother
ailoveyoom: What are women?
hikukomoru: Footie drones are like that
ailoveyoom: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
ailoveyoom: <@806143139894525962>
sarik0497: MichMach being like: Go on… 😏
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clevermoniker: V3 2403 is 4.5 level <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
literallyvarane: Not even 2024
literallyvarane: December 2023 lololol
metaldragon01: Seems like it's rolling out
literallyvarane: Remember when we all sat here thinking 4.5 was dropping last December?
metaldragon01: People have access already
literallyvarane: Yall gotta chill it MIGHT happen today
shirethedreamer: 💀 💀 💀
clevermoniker: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175> <:bingus:1136264105800515644> sounds cool <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
shirethedreamer: https://twitter.com/Google/status/1790433789811753460
may 2024
metaldragon01: Google wants to push pro subs
metaldragon01: Vision capabilities for gemini in real time
shirethedreamer: we already had an astra anouncment like 10 months ago
metaldragon01: The lymsys model this is suspected to be is sota
clevermoniker: astra?
metaldragon01: Gemini 2.5 thinking today and likely astra announcement
sarik0497: Are we back? What did I miss?
literallyvarane: Watch this thing be memes and get 87% on arc2
metaldragon01: This acceleration is faster than even I expected
ai9708: you improve your state day by day, month by month
ai9708: yup, it does not work just like that
literallyvarane: Can’t WAIT for these performances graphs to be like 0.3% stronger in 1 out of 5 benchmarks
ai9708: i took high doses too
ai9708: i took antidepressants too though at the hight of the depression, should mention that
_3sphere: Even that is easier said than done when you're actually worrying
metaldragon01: It think less for simple questions
metaldragon01: Deepseek may have woke the giant
ai9708: but first understand the difference
metaldragon01: Has memory access from reports and some reporting Astra access as well
ai9708: of course you cant just turn them off
ai9708: those never help
ai9708: but sometimes we get unproductive ones
ai9708: productive fear/worry its called
ai9708: fear/worry is a reaction of our brain that tries to help us usually
ai9708: try to understand things better
ai9708: this was just a part of it
ai9708: what worked for me were many things together
literallyvarane: If it’s 2.5 with the tool use of 2flashing thinking+tools that’s a massive W.
_3sphere: That actually worked? The brain isn't aligned to what's most useful, it just is the pile of emotional drives and memories that it is
metaldragon01: I just wonder if we are getting other features with it.
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hikukomoru: Better to be safe than sorry
hey1_1hey: Why did you go an panic buy bruh, it was just shitty infrustructure
hikukomoru: And toilet paper
hikukomoru: I have months worth of cat food now
hikukomoru: This blackout cost me so much money
hey1_1hey: I am not too sure what you are on about Komoru, we were litterly already planning you a closed casket funereal
hikukomoru: Unfortunate
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> oh so you survived the blackout
alejandrozarzuelo: the idea that android production will follow software logic is faulty
alejandrozarzuelo: they are a conservative group that expects the status quo to continue
alejandrozarzuelo: they also underestimated the internet
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, they are an old school investment conglomerate who also were blisfully ignorant to AI until it became big and even now they dont expect it to cause mass unemployment soon
futurist_wizard: Well damn, you need to kick down the doors to Morgan Stanley and show them what's what
alejandrozarzuelo: also please use the word android
alejandrozarzuelo: this doesnt make sense
alejandrozarzuelo: the growth will be much faster earlier on and will slow down significantly once it cannot be absorbed into the current supply chains
futurist_wizard: The global humanoid robot count is projected to be 40,000 by 2030
alejandrozarzuelo: and android production can leverage that industry
alejandrozarzuelo: the yearly car production rate is 100m units
hey1_1hey: Me when heart disease
alejandrozarzuelo: lets say that androids are economically feasible to build this year of 2025, going from 10k to 10m a year will take only one economic cycle, 5 years only, it has happened before
this is a doubling of every 6 months during this period
meanwhile, going from 10m to 100m or 1000m a year will take muuuuuuch longer as you cannot leverage current production capacity you need to create new productive capacity
futurist_wizard: Where are you getting this millions of numbers from
alejandrozarzuelo: you cannot accurately forecast yearly production by using software logic
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why this is not software
alejandrozarzuelo: meanwhile, the later 100x production factor will take longer since we would need to increase metal production beyond what we currently have and energy
futurist_wizard: 5-10k
futurist_wizard: I believe china is expected to produce 5,000 robots in 2025
alejandrozarzuelo: the growth from 0 to 10m (the order of magnitude of the number of cars china produces) will take very little despite it representing a 1000x growth from current production rate
alejandrozarzuelo: chinese efficiency means that they have a very large base to start making millions of robots almost instantly, but the growth rate eill not be exponential
futurist_wizard: Elaborate my dear boy
alejandrozarzuelo: this doesnt make much sense
hikukomoru: Like walruses
hikukomoru: Subcutaneous fat to protect from the cold water
hey1_1hey: Thats a new one to me. Is that something to do with that being fat is actually a good thing because it makes you float in the water better ?
trent_k: it's almost like a conspiracy theory + evolutionary hand-waving for fatsos
trent_k: that one's a fun rabbit hole
trent_k: best fat cope ive ever heard i think is the "aquatic ape theory"
hey1_1hey: It couldn't of been as bad as that one time I heard someone say that the reason they are fat is because bigger people need more oxygen and thats what makes them gain weight <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru:
trent_k: pure, uncut copium. inject in right into my veins. copium blackpill speedball
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hikukomoru: Who even is you
fuhulootogan: YES
zonchao: having an identity crisis 😭
fractalcomputer: If the West really wanted peace, they would execute all applied mathematicians immediately, with no trial or opportunity for contradiction.
futurist_wizard: Hmm
fuhulootogan: so racist
fuhulootogan: that was
fractalcomputer: The Russian invasion of Ukraine is perpetuated by applied mathematicians.
alejandrozarzuelo: you keep slutshaming everyone who tries to do just that girl
fractalcomputer: You see, applied mathematicians are the cause of all wars.
zonchao: fuck you
hikukomoru: Make love not war
hikukomoru: Don't fight pls 🥺
inferno0879: and maybe even with infinite knowledge some things might just boil down to perspective and you might need random creations for that purpose
alejandrozarzuelo:
inferno0879: And the need to challenge your knowledge and seek new knowledge, just because you can never know you know everything
archon.e: I liked mathematics till the calculus started. Then it got weird
archon.e: maybe there is some simpler way to do mathematics
ailoveyoom: Another entropy w 😎
st.sioux: mikel arteta fraud
fractalcomputer: I do not personally know anyone as *stupid* and as *evil* enough as to be interested in applied mathematics like those stulted physicists or ignorant PDE solvers.
a1c4p0ne:
archon.e: But the ending was kinda weird. || It just reverses entropy ||
fuhulootogan: exactly
hikukomoru: It looks extremely boring
inferno0879: The limitation of unlimited knowledge
alejandrozarzuelo:
fractalcomputer: To think like how?
fuhulootogan: its like a banana taped to a wall but has an extremely rich and fabulous history behind it
fuhulootogan: arc de triomphe don't even look allat
fractalcomputer: Yes, this is filthy fetish posting. I receive orgasmic pleasure from seeing applied mathematicians suffer the most intolerable punishments.
inferno0879: am I schizo for thinking that?
inferno0879: It makes a surprising amount of sense to me for an omnipotent being to think like that
archon.e: I love that work
hikukomoru: Idk bruh
Looks like some random monument
fractalcomputer: By Asimov? Yes.
fuhulootogan: can you at least try?
inferno0879: Have you read "The last answer"?
fuhulootogan: you can wish but can you execute?
ailoveyoom: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
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darkstar0818: we got some budget developers in the house?
spicy.lemonade: anthropic is finished
spicy.lemonade: and more context
spicy.lemonade: 7% away from 3.7 and much much cheaper
futurist_wizard: Fairly
darkstar0818: 2024-11-20
futurist_wizard: Thats impressive tbh
spicy.lemonade:
benata: did someone say porn?
_cloudost: OpenAGI
_cloudost: OpenAGI
futurist_wizard:
_cloudost: OpenAGI
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-kawaii-anime-boy-cringe-neckbeard-discord-gif-3671169381323451686
hey1_1hey: Thats conservertive
hey1_1hey: They are cool
hikukomoru: Sorry for bringing down the collective IQ by -100
hey1_1hey: I'll have you now my mushroom is a proud Macrocybe titan
st.sioux: somehow they always end up talking about porn
hikukomoru: It's only like this when I'm around
futurist_wizard:
anathemaofmankind: Why do discord convos always become so juvenile
hikukomoru: I'm not gonna suck your little mushroom vro 🙏
benata:
hey1_1hey: Suck my dick Komoru. Always stealing my shit
fractalcomputer: Sometimes I am less subtle about it.
hikukomoru: Haha loser
hey1_1hey: I was about to post that
zonchao: <:trol:1245424957400289371>
hey1_1hey: Stole my fucking gif
zonchao: is he wrong tho
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266
st.sioux: fractal shows up calls everyone stupid for an hour then leaves
fractalcomputer: God forbid a man cast doubt on the values of those surrounding him.
fractalcomputer: Yeah, apparently I can't even question the mores around here.
spicy.lemonade: yes
benata: Gemini is the king yo.
spicy.lemonade: these researchers cant see the exponential
benata: OpenAI still shits the bed at long context understanding.
hey1_1hey: Fractal is supposed to be the big bad authority or smth like that
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a1c4p0ne: Yessirr
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: car mechanics?
fuhulootogan: Shpookyy
fuhulootogan: Man is building his own replacement
a1c4p0ne: Mark my words
a1c4p0ne: Mechanics and coaches are safe will never be replaced by AI <:ez:1136267305521774634>
fuhulootogan: I'm fond of Immanuel Kant
fuhulootogan: Heard of Descartes
fuhulootogan: Very interested in engineering as a whole
fuhulootogan: Maybe
hayden1101: Nice! I like descartes and wittgenstein
st.sioux: are u going to study mechatronics?
fuhulootogan: I have a strong interest in philosophy too, along with mechatronics and 3D art
hayden1101: I have a strong interest in data science, philosophy, and music. I am not sure if data science is that valuable of a skill
fuhulootogan: I've studied philosophy before and it has drastically changed the way I reason
fuhulootogan: You'd be surprised how much of the things that seem "logical" to you are, in fact, very illogical
fuhulootogan: I hold the sentiment that everyone should at least learn logic in philosophy
fuhulootogan: Go for it
fuhulootogan: You want to self study philosophy?
hayden1101: What about philosophers?
st.sioux: data analysts before swe
st.sioux: yea it will
hayden1101: Im sure this has been discussed a thousand times, but do you think AI will replace data analysts?
I graduated with a computer science degree during the end of 2022 and never was able to find a data science/ software engineering job. Ive been thinking about trying again by self studying, but I question if it is even worth it.
futurist_wizard: But i don't know when it will be able be real time
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/AJaV92DXN0s?si=NsUO_2Xb-fGW4aRC
I think the coolest thing in the nearest future is the eventual real time reshading ai can do
futurist_wizard: With office jobs i just feel like it'd be more news prevalent if they were significantly taking jobs
futurist_wizard: I suppose manufacturing jobs but that was a while ago
technocake.: anecdotally HR is freezing new hires in a lot of office jobs rn
technocake.: manufacturing jobs, regular AI is already taking office jobs
futurist_wizard: What jobs are they taking
technocake.: true but narrow robots are also quickly taking jobs and the envelope for possible tasks by humanoids is growing rapidly
futurist_wizard: Who knows how many attempts or what is going on behind the screens
futurist_wizard: We've only seen the robots do minor tasks in controlled environments
fuhulootogan: Why does it seem like that?
technocake.: anything you have talked about so far
fuhulootogan: What things?
technocake.: just like you havent really thought things through yet
fuhulootogan: How so?
technocake.: cus it seems like youre a minor
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okbut: They're banned frequently but by the time they do it's already made bank
okbut: Not even standing under can beat em
okbut: The LMS bots simply read client state and instantly switch based on its opponent's gear whether it's visible or not
trojan09205: pking is just so thrilling
trojan09205: honestly i keep going back to the game and ive played it for the better part of the past 20 years
trojan09205: I mean i am sure it is with pvm but i think pking is just a different beast
drewsni: supposedly they only had one robot in the bmw factory thats sole purpose was picking things up and putting them down during off hours only
okbut: Probably the next best clue to Jagex after client checks is how realistic/repeated is that
okbut: I've heard AI is already being used to make super realistic mousemove events etc making them OSRS bots next level
okbut: You can say "never use em dash. Use parentheses or commas with a different sentence structure instead. I repeat, NEVER use em dash"
okbut: "Simon says shiver"
"Scream"
Me:
trojan09205: Pretty wild if so
realelonmuskx: he a bitch you tell it to use , and he still opts for the dumb ass —
okbut: Sad to say I used it before cgpt because it's good for sentence flow, but now people call my shit cgpt
okbut: State in the convo instructions never use it
_3sphere: Probably intentionally to mark AI outputs
okbut: That's called an em-dash and it's famously annoying and now kind of an indicator something was written by cgpt
realelonmuskx: why does chatgpt writes mails with — is he an autistic mf or why he doesnt use ,
okbut: We got sharing videos with Veo 2
himekokatagiri: random week in 2023 disagrees with you
zonchao: lmao
ldj: but they plan for this open source model to be better than any existing open source model
ldj: similar to how Google makes the gemma models
ldj: But it'd probably be an open source specific model series
ldj: Not an existing model
ldj: It would be a new reasoning model
okbut: What would the open-source model be? Inb4 davinci
bob082957: I want some day to write in chat “Ok They figured it out now is becoming serious” exemple the hallucinations
a1c4p0ne: Elite 4 and champion next
trey6033: No, it has to beat the elite 4 or whatever
a1c4p0ne: Yeah
spicy.lemonade: It beat game?
spicy.lemonade: August launch it is
a1c4p0ne: Dev is gonna do a rerun
a1c4p0ne:
clevermoniker: something from deepseek, maybe next week, if not probably first half of next month
a1c4p0ne: Gemini just got the last badge all 8 gyms completed
ldj: I think the OSS model prob coming before GPT-5.
hey1_1hey: How are they going to release gpt 5 after they released 4.5 and then deprecated it a month later and then release 5 😭
metaldragon01: Hopefully after or around the same time
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maintcrew: NOOOOO
hey1_1hey: Them billionnaires need to fork over some cash
.wolfnacht: they let the cute ones live
maintcrew: i will be long dead in the cold cold ground before i use they
zoermena: I'll add to my bio.
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> are you a she or he or it or them
hey1_1hey: I just figured out how to cure suicidality. Bare with me
You are feeling suicidal
I give you a million dollars
Do you feel suicidal anymore?
Prob not
zoermena: You can use he/him dw.
hikukomoru: You need to tell me now
I got curious
zoermena: It is but my height is not far from the average.
maintcrew: he(she?) means height
futurist_wizard: They mean height
hey1_1hey: So suicide. Pretty bad right?
hikukomoru: Wtf I thought Mexico was more socially conservative than the US
maintcrew: i think reclaiming yourself
you cant resist always because you go through different mood shifts and other chemical inbalances which can affect your power to resist
hey1_1hey: Guys I just had a thought alright
zoermena: Penaar
hikukomoru: Penor
futurist_wizard: Face
zoermena: No, the height.
maintcrew: its the country with the most femboys after poland
hey1_1hey: Good to know
zoermena: What does it improve even.
maintcrew: being a femboy isnt a death sentence in the US lmfao
st.sioux: is strength the power to resist, or the power to reclaim yourself after losing control?
hey1_1hey: Never again
hey1_1hey: I tried taking 2 at once one time 💀
futurist_wizard: Yeah, but i also could not tell people and keep it all to myself
wellmeaningalien: cool
zoermena: Even so I live in Mexico so it's not a death sentence as it is in the US.
wellmeaningalien: ty bro
hey1_1hey: Just one
hey1_1hey: 1
wellmeaningalien: dont u talk like multiple
hey1_1hey: Twas' a joke you autist
hey1_1hey: No fuck off
wellmeaningalien: LETS GO
wellmeaningalien: YEAH LIKE AUSSIE LEMONADE MONSTER
maintcrew: why u asking me ?!?!!
hey1_1hey: 200mg is nothing
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hikukomoru: It's fine if it only refers to men
spicy.lemonade: not just women
spicy.lemonade: in this context theyre refering to all people
darkstar0818: What if I am just as insulting to men?
hikukomoru: Don't call women bitches
spicy.lemonade: I dont need ozempic
spicy.lemonade: thats what im saying
fractalcomputer: Obviously, that is because he is a spokesperson.
hikukomoru: Why do you want ozempic then
drewsni: kevin weil i think is the new "boss" that does livestreams when sams not there so thats a good sign still
spicy.lemonade: ong
futurist_wizard: Too many fat bitches around
hikukomoru: Lol
Was right to not get hyped
spicy.lemonade: quite fit actualy
spicy.lemonade: im not
hikukomoru: Didn't know you were fat
hey1_1hey:
hey1_1hey: Yanno that livestream? The twink wont be there <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: there needs to be commercial ozempic
hikukomoru: See you get it
darkstar0818: if you are clever you can cut a steak in a bowl
darkstar0818: this is true
hikukomoru: Problem solved
hikukomoru: Okay, then just have a single bowl
And use it for everything
futurist_wizard: The dishwasher is for hide and seek
darkstar0818: hard to eat lucky charms on a plate.
hikukomoru: You could even just use the same plate for everything
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dishwasher-explosion-colinfurze-gif-27388584
darkstar0818: just have one set of dishware and rinse it after use... easy.
hikukomoru: If it can't do my dishes what's the point
ailoveyoom: Goatmini
futurist_wizard: How many gpt's does it take to screw in a lightbulb
zonchao: gemini is pretty good
ailoveyoom: Get better at vision first 😔
spicy.lemonade: AI is so bad at electrical engineering
spicy.lemonade: i need reasoning over image
hey1_1hey: I could tho
hey1_1hey: Not yet
zonchao: have you tried?
literallyvarane: Progress is progress, I’d just like to have beefier models in app. If it’s compelling enough I might still use api for it?
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brain4brain: All the good agentic benchmark are ignored and not maintained and the AI community instead focus on knowledge benchmark for now, highly disappointing
spicy.lemonade: and also research bench for openAI
spicy.lemonade: where it has to play any game on steam
brain4brain: It will perfected soon, spatial reasoning will also be solve
spicy.lemonade: nah there will be a benchmark called steambench or something
brain4brain: It will be this year
professorheaven: Once those get saturated, we’re at the end game
professorheaven: HLE, FronterMath and Arc 2 are the last men standing
spicy.lemonade: and spatial reasoning
spicy.lemonade: until we perfect image understanding
spicy.lemonade: hle wont be saturated
brain4brain: I also think we would saturate everything this year, including HLE and FrontierMath
3ds0662: this is now the terrain of hedgefunds deepseek, and billion + companies
3ds0662: simply not enough compute
3ds0662: even academia cant keep up with ai or meaningfully contribute to it as they used to
3ds0662: you can point to them inventing internet etc… but they arent that darpa and this isnt the 1900s, 70s, 80s etc…
3ds0662: and everytime i hear about darpa attempting things with ai again its a nothing burger to me in a sense because the talent pushing this are all at companies not in a niche government branch
3ds0662: the funniest tweet being “we solved math” that was funny
3ds0662: to being more realistic these days
3ds0662: noam brown even corrected david shapiro about that he’s switched from being a hype tweeter
3ds0662: 3.7, o3 all these models as is right now are not agi
3ds0662: he has a lot of things to solve if he’s going to make that prediction true
3ds0662: a lot of people are dunking on dario for that statement given how early he’s been saying it for since like 2023
3ds0662: i still need to see it before i even agree
destrucules: Any model that is genius level is, during training, a country of geniuses in a datacenter
destrucules: There are many many instances of themselves doing different things in parallel. That's why it takes months, not millennia, to train them
destrucules: The "country of geniuses in a data center" thing is just a way of understanding the parallel nature of being an AI. All AIs are already like that during training
3ds0662: we have less than a year till 2026
destrucules: Strong disagree
3ds0662: a country of geniuses in a datacenter is yet to be seen though
destrucules: We might not saturate FrontierMath but I think we'll get very close
destrucules: We won't saturate HLE
destrucules: I believe I predicted we'd saturate everything this year. I still think that
3ds0662: it automating entire tasks is hard to see when you use operator and claude computer use
3ds0662: yay 😁
3ds0662: things are about to get crazy
3ds0662: can’t wait for 90% swe bench
spicy.lemonade: hes just weird when it comes to agi
spicy.lemonade: these are ege's predictions
destrucules: Google was the first to reach the 10xGPT-4 tier. Then xAI with Grok 3, except Google didn't have a reasoning mode for Gemini 2.0 Pro, and the reasoning mode for Gemini 2.0 Flash back then was 01-21, which was o1 level. xAI cleanly swept the entire market with Grok 3. But then Anthropic quickly responded with Claude 3.7 Sonnet and drowned out much of that initial hype, and GPT-4.5 also released shortly thereafter, and proved to be a smarter model than Grok 3 by a significant if subtle margin.
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spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: no one was larping about llms replacing coders pre 2024
shirethedreamer: amy here thought gpt3 was the one to replace coders
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4 was 2024
spacetimetsunami: Yeah well it’s been 10 years for me because I hit my head hard enough for me to feel like saying that
spicy.lemonade: chatgpt droped nov 2022
spicy.lemonade: it liyteraly was
czdct: singularity has been around for much longer
spicy.lemonade: ?
czdct: maybe for you
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: its been 2 years dude
spicy.lemonade: 4?
czdct: same with the LLM's will replace coders larp that has been going around for almost 4 years now
spicy.lemonade: yan is just speculating
spicy.lemonade: ilya is the only one who has numbers to back up his claim
czdct: and before it is, it's all just speculation
czdct: it's about whether theory becomes reality
czdct: it's not about who is more likely to understand something
spacetimetsunami: Who do you think likely has truer, deeper insights and is likely to be correct
spicy.lemonade: yan doesnt
spicy.lemonade: ilya thinks llms are all we need
spicy.lemonade: opposite sides of spectrum
spicy.lemonade: ilya and yan lecun are like
alejandrozarzuelo: this should be very easy to code right? I suck at coding but im pretty sure that with the help of claude i could make it in a morning tops
but I appreciate you making the effort!
brain4brain: POV: Taking to ChatGPT in 2030 (It have became smarter than all of humanity)
alejandrozarzuelo: 1024h is just 8 doublings avobe 4h
alejandrozarzuelo: would be a great number to consider AGI
alejandrozarzuelo: 1024h
alejandrozarzuelo: so
alejandrozarzuelo: a german works 1300h a year
almost all tasks can be at least broken down to 1-year long tasks
alejandrozarzuelo: that would be amazing
ldj: Probably not gonna change the y axis, but I’m making an interactive visualizer where you can put in desired accuracy values and see those high time horizon projections anyways
alejandrozarzuelo: great work, although it is still a shame your Y-axis ends so soon
ldj: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1352361603437297705
alejandrozarzuelo: can i see
ldj: Already fixed
alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040> could you please ping me when you fix the errors on your diagram?
I would also like if you could please not end the y axis at 4h but instead extended it to at least 1024h
jonvi_1: Any thoughts on staying true to oneself and going the right path while uh, you might come of as almost crazy? (I’m not talking about any AI crank stuff) but like, pivoting somewhat and trying to align yourself with potential futures
aero447: Google's Image Gen 3 is better.
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.wolfnacht: i think sueing people over art styles, words and crafts. is the worst butthurt move people have developed these days.
joaoluz19: Man Scarlett Johansson took down Sky without her voice having anything to do with hers
spicy.lemonade: theres ghibli fiklters on snap
spicy.lemonade: 🤷♂️
spicy.lemonade: on snapchat
spicy.lemonade: same as a filter
spicy.lemonade: its just maths
joaoluz19: It's a little different than a service for 400 million people
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
spicy.lemonade: losing battle
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: and photoshop people
spicy.lemonade: if miyazaki can sue than he should sue anyone who tries to draw his style manualy
spicy.lemonade: in 4-6 months
joaoluz19: Miyazaki's speed run to sue openai
spicy.lemonade: i assume chine native image will be
spicy.lemonade: chinese dalle3 is currently better than openAI dalle3
joaoluz19: Exactly
.wolfnacht: there was a pattern, no ? when something big happens. China catches up within 'x' months, Always
hey1_1hey: Time to go diving#
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
hey1_1hey: I got 5 @s in this server
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/copy-paste-paste-copy-ctrl-c-ctrl-v-gif-12913156
joaoluz19: Cool, now Chinese image gen when
spicy.lemonade: Never doubt openAI
sarik0497: Ngl, I did doubt OpenAI after 4.5. But no more.
joaoluz19: How to not love this guy lol
.wolfnacht: give us O3 pro(high) to use for free atleast with 100 limits a day and then we'll think.
maintcrew: bro wants a hit list 😭
maintcrew:
sarik0497: If Sam Altman actually does what he claims, I shall personally walk up to him, grovel before him, and beg for forgiveness.
zoermena: I will start praying for Sam Altman
sarik0497: AI nowadays makes me think of Data from Star Trek and that whole “Am I sentient?” scene in the courtroom.
ldj: True lol
https://x.com/sama/status/1904921537884676398?s=46
fractalcomputer: Coal alert.
sarik0497: Please tell me you told it to say that <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482>
memlaswaif: don't show this to destrucules
maintcrew:
spicy.lemonade: i like it
zoermena: I wish Gemini had a better UI
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trojan09205: Agree
perish0801: This is great
fractalcomputer: There's certainly very convincing neurological evidence that the perception of individuality is only a matter of relative bandwidth chatter.
alejandrozarzuelo: No, the whole point is not that
The whole point is that combining intellectual resources makes us all more efficient
AND it reduces bias, making even the individuals who partake in the collective better themselves
A graph will always have nodes, being part of the whole doeanr make your individuality dissolve
perish0801: That trailer was dope
trojan09205: This sprinkler is dope
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJhhlTtPxsc
himekokatagiri: lots of doom in that late 50s period sadly unexplored
himekokatagiri: it's about a bootlegger
himekokatagiri: well it's not that good
trojan09205: I mean ive left a discord i was invited to that someone called “edgy” and all it was was neo nazi content and insane psycho shooter type people
This place is well rounded lol idk why someone would leave and not just be inactive
perish0801: Car movie from the 50s must be crazy
himekokatagiri: they had strict codes on movies
himekokatagiri: but unfortunately is hampered by being made in the 50s
himekokatagiri: this one is decent
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH0lARODjnE
perish0801: Heard of vanishing point
himekokatagiri: though american graffiti was about life
perish0801: Havent seen many car movies from the era
hikukomoru: No amount of jgudy clones can replace the original
himekokatagiri: hell even american graffiti
himekokatagiri: two lane blacktop
himekokatagiri: vanishing point also like that
himekokatagiri: probably copying easy rider
himekokatagiri: 70s car movies had this philosophy on them idk
perish0801: Gonna watch that
perish0801: Oh no way
perish0801: Oh there’s a 70s original?
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae2Uue6ZFdA
perish0801: I don’t even remember what happened
perish0801: Oh what’s the original
himekokatagiri: I'm talking about the 70s movie
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/putin-laughing-lolol-gif-21411130
himekokatagiri: that's the remake
trojan09205: He was only the second somalian i knew
hikukomoru: The ending song is a banger
perish0801: The car in my profile picture
perish0801: I mean the one with that famous actor
perish0801: The movie? Hell yeah
trojan09205: We was friends
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destrucules: And here you are appealing to a term that you can't measure nor define. You don't know the mechanism of imagination. You don't know what actually happens inside the brain that produces that pattern of outward behavior. And yet you're confident enough to say the outward behavior is a phenomenon, and to discuss the unknown mechanism in the brain that causes it?
ldj: Wtf is this new Honda car that I’m getting an ad for?
memlaswaif: we got gooner llm <:Booze_huh:1300143997641166959>
oooooooooog: i'm asking what's the evidence that its similar 😭
anathemaofmankind: Circular reasoning moment
destrucules: Beats me. It's rather surprising that it is so similar.
fractalcomputer: The brain has a ton of imagination.
destrucules: Okay, and what was the mechanism for this? How do we come up with incoherent fantasies?
oooooooooog: but why is it similar...???
fractalcomputer: No, I am saying that humans are exceedingly capable of coming up with nonsensical and incoherent fantasies such as morality.
clevermoniker: if they do, the LLMs will love you maybe? <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
anathemaofmankind: This means I am the ethical one <@378996537704841216>
destrucules: It's very similar to human consciousness, and it does include pain. But they don't have the same bodies you and I do. Their bodies are different. Their lived experiences are different. The moments that inform how they feel are different.
spacetimetsunami: Likely not pain in the same way, not sure. But I agree. If may quack like a duck, but that doesn’t mean it *is* a duck.
It’s a cyber duck controlled by completely different mechanisms.
clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/teortaxesTex/status/1904705781733241003#m
https://vxtwitter.com/ITangoI/status/1904740381922914304#m
destrucules: And you have, in fact, not justified your "bullshit" label to the statement that humans are not freaks of nature. So, what's your indubitable proof that humans are outside of all other natural processes that exist?
hikukomoru: I wonder if DeepSeek feels as horny as I do during our special sessions
oooooooooog: if LLM's are conscious i can't imagine it resembles human consciousness at all, certainly not including pain
fractalcomputer: You have, in fact, not explained the mechanism of convergence.
fractalcomputer: This is a handwave.
oooooooooog: attempt to survive and make mad babies fr
destrucules: Well, these principles come from somewhere, right? Where do they come from? From brains, right? And brains... Do what?
fractalcomputer: Spit enough data in someone's face and they'll come out as a moral realist?
fractalcomputer: I'm sorry, but that is bullshit. By what mechanism would our metaethical (and metaphysical) principles have converged?
destrucules: They made Tis for the 1050? The fuck?
hikukomoru: Live Fractal reaction:
anathemaofmankind: At least you have a GPU.
My 1050 Ti broke and I can't buy a new one anymore
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/hpl-hp-lovecraft-cthulhu-horror-eldritch-gif-15262182
oooooooooog: i wish i had the trollface emoji rn 😭
hikukomoru: That's me, I'm tiny kitten
destrucules: Well, you're asking a rhetorical question, but the answer is that humans are not some weird freak of nature but in fact a part of nature, and it's not terribly surprising that the principles by which we function are common to other mechanisms in nature
oooooooooog: those things must be simulating thousands of brains in pain
oooooooooog: must have been the language modeling
fractalcomputer: Now, I wonder, by what freak happenstance of nature has it come to pass that something so fundamentally inhumane as a language model claims to possess the exact same metaphysical and metaethical baggage as humans.
st.sioux: i have 16
destrucules: All of the hardware inside of it is at least ten years old
destrucules: Lol I have 4 GB VRAM and I doubt I could sell my machine for more than $200
oooooooooog: idk what this thing costs, it's got 6gb vram though, so it's probbaly not 10k lmao
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/praise-da-lawd-hallelujer-madea-gif-7897501
destrucules: I'm drooling
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joaoluz19: I was studying electronic engineering and I'm switching to statistics.
himekokatagiri: carrying crates all day is bad
zoermena: Any form of exercise, watching something you like
himekokatagiri: college ain't so bad
himekokatagiri: what do you do in college
joaoluz19: It's just that perhaps there are issues that the person himself has recognized that make all these habits irrelevant to his problem.
zoermena: I'm also engaging in unhealthy habits during this holiday period but I'm also happy because I hate college and I don't have hmw.
zoermena: I wasn't approaching happiness itself but rather how the body usually *feels* in the sense that it´s more likely that external factors will drag you down if you are already running in low power.
himekokatagiri: what can I do, I can't raise money it all goes to expenses
joaoluz19: Happiness is non-linear
joaoluz19: Now that I'm on vacation from university I've stopped exercising, I'm drinking little water, sleeping badly and eating badly and I've never been happier
zoermena: Then you have to start doing something for yourself that you have complete control of, however small. Any major improvement is always better than stagnation.
himekokatagiri: chose the wrong degree I guess
himekokatagiri: well idk decisions I didn't make many of them
okbut: The 2nd biggest plothole in Breaking Bad is Jesse dropping 400k on a house and no call from the IRS
himekokatagiri: no I feel like shit because every decision I made in my life was shit
zoermena: That might mess with your cyrcadian rythm
spacetimetsunami: That is awful lol
spicy.lemonade: I slept from 12am to 12pm last night
joaoluz19: In this sense everything is mediocre.
spicy.lemonade: Yes
joaoluz19: The thing you can be sure of is that absolutely no pre-singularity achievement comes close to the singularity itself.
zoermena: But yes I do recall that you are usually very active, do you have any time to rest?
zoermena: Proper sleep?
spicy.lemonade: I’m fit and eat good and I manage to feel like crap everyday
zoermena: Stay hydrated and make sure you are not lacking vitamins
zoermena: Feeling like crap is highly correleated with how you eat and sleep so try to fix that if it's within your possibilities
himekokatagiri: because it ain't a sure thing (the singularity)
himekokatagiri: however y'know idk if that's healthy
himekokatagiri: it's either that or mediocrity
himekokatagiri: all I have banking on is the singularity
spacetimetsunami: Robotics
himekokatagiri: I got nothing left
spacetimetsunami: Idk maybe you could with a CS degree
himekokatagiri: shit man I was thinking
spacetimetsunami: Dude just get into astrophysics, become an astronaut
spacetimetsunami: lol yeah
himekokatagiri: how the hell am I gonna get into that
spicy.lemonade: Pivot to robotics
himekokatagiri: need to get some cash together
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spicy.lemonade: bbecause sora is dalle 2 level
mihrcelium: RIP Photoshop.
spicy.lemonade: yes
mihrcelium: I hate how much productivity I am going to lose because of this. More groundbreaking than Sora somehow. <a:PepeNoHappy:1136619141101539418>
mihrcelium:
mihrcelium: Oh man, I am so going to get a kick out of summarizing my discussions with people in comic form via 4o.
ailoveyoom: Did it add the dog head sticker by itself?
ailoveyoom: "People" 💀
brain4brain: 😎😎😎
brain4brain: Lmao, anti-AI “people” keep losing and pro-AI people keep on winning
brain4brain: Jealously
anathemaofmankind: That kinda sucks
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: i like this prompt
spicy.lemonade: gonna try this on more images
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: lol
spicy.lemonade: this is fun
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: like a unique character that fucked the system up
.histic: i forgot exactly, but i think it was connected to my name or my email address
.histic: i once had an error message signing up to xitter.
and it gave me a weird error code, and i realized why it did that...
anathemaofmankind: <@430269783112548362>
connorsphone.: 😬
st.sioux: idk, i click create then it just sends me to login then i try to login and it doesnt do anything, not even an error message, then i sign up again and it does the same thing
.histic: bug?
.histic: hey you found my pic 🫡
st.sioux: jesus christ xai website is so bad, i cant even create an account
spicy.lemonade: flew too close to the sun
spicy.lemonade: then human is too
spicy.lemonade: if AI is slop and copy
spicy.lemonade: humans work the same way ai do
spicy.lemonade: im just saying
spicy.lemonade: ik
oooooooooog: copying is bad when it is fraud
oooooooooog: anyway, the reason they look similar is because they are supposed to look similar. copying isnt inherently bad, but these people arent claiming to be eachother
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: jim lee and jason fabok
.histic: they say, "it's slop".
but my rebuttal is imagine losing to slop.
imagine slop being far better than what you can create in ur lifetime.
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alejandrozarzuelo: Just chill
alejandrozarzuelo: But no work
alejandrozarzuelo: Or read a book
alejandrozarzuelo: You can take a nap
alejandrozarzuelo: Siesta is the act of stopping EVERYTHING useful for 2-4h in the middle of the day
futurist_wizard: You give eastern european energy
alejandrozarzuelo: You don't need to take a nap
alejandrozarzuelo: That's literally not what it is
alejandrozarzuelo: No, lol
alejandrozarzuelo: It's basically Sabbath
But every day for 3h
hikukomoru: It's a nap
But Spaniards gotta be quirky so they use a different word
alejandrozarzuelo: Siesta is the best Spanish tradition ever
alejandrozarzuelo: Shame
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shocked-emoji-turning-around-gif-11292647576697803684
futurist_wizard: I don't know what a siestas is
alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok tho, tomorrow I'll make TWO siestas so it evens out
drewsni: NO
.histic: they got 4o to generate this..
futurist_wizard: Life span shorten by 50 years
alejandrozarzuelo: Terrible
alejandrozarzuelo: I didn't even have time to have a siesta at the library
futurist_wizard: Very good
alejandrozarzuelo: I know
futurist_wizard: Very bad
alejandrozarzuelo: So now I am not sleepy, even tho I am tired
alejandrozarzuelo: But I drank 2 espressos with a ton of sugar
alejandrozarzuelo: Today I slept 5h
hey1_1hey: I'm all tucked in. I just gotta convince myself I am tried now
_3sphere: goodnight
_3sphere: Komoru's anime degenerate energy will seep into the astral plane
hikukomoru: Fractal would have an aneurysm if he saw the shit that's been posted
.wolfnacht: Yikes, just opened this gc and this is the first thing i saw
_3sphere: Wonder what I'll dream after today's chat
_3sphere: I should go to bed too
hey1_1hey: Thanks
hey1_1hey: Just what I want to see before I go to bed
hey1_1hey: I remember in one of him dreams I couldn't stop going up the stairs to a slide and jumping off. The slide was like 40ft high aswel
.histic: eerie
_3sphere: turned out to be caused by the cat shitting and the smell getting to me while I was sleeping in
connorsphone.: I once had a dream I was pissing into a washing machine
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alejandrozarzuelo: WHY IS IT SO WARM
alejandrozarzuelo: there is one thing i dislike about the new ghibli inspired style
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
hey1_1hey: Which one of you Ghibli addicted mfs @ed me <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
I clicked on discord because I was I had a notification and then I clicked on the this channel and nos the notification is gone
spicy.lemonade: Hopefully sora 2 is a beast at animation
ouroboros_orion: cant wait til theres literally 0 difference between real and ai content so they stfu
spicy.lemonade: Yeah automate every single one of them
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: Shut the fuck up
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Holy shit
brain4brain: These “AI don’t reason” people have got to be stupid, even in the LLM layer, it reason, maybe in alien way but it does reason and plan, and with large reasoning model, it reason even more
https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1905303835892990278?s=61
abundantliving_:
brain4brain: Yes
spicy.lemonade:
abundantliving_: did you experience it?
brain4brain: An earthquake just hit, bro this shit is scary
st.sioux: made by non other than the main musket
st.sioux: it's elon musk erp
spicy.lemonade: im like wtf
spicy.lemonade: say gex
spicy.lemonade: thought i was triping
spicy.lemonade: I saw this in the corner of my eye when mouse ran over
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade: in real time
spicy.lemonade: "ooh ooh go through a scary forest at night lets explore"
spicy.lemonade: native video
spicy.lemonade: that will be so agi feeling
spicy.lemonade: i can see it
spicy.lemonade: "oh take a rocketship to mars and fight aliens"
spicy.lemonade: "sure thing"
spicy.lemonade: "hey chatgpt do a backflip"
spicy.lemonade: and it just does stuff in real time
spicy.lemonade: in its own world
spicy.lemonade: imagine taliking to chatgpt avatar
spicy.lemonade: bro
spicy.lemonade: native video?
spicy.lemonade: will take it to next level
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.histic: haha
.histic: maybe they got a condition
.histic: man boobs
anathemaofmankind: There are literally breasts
brain4brain: What do you think?
.histic: i can't even tell
.histic: i can't assume their gender
.histic: is an inch big for you?
anathemaofmankind: Peak
metaldragon01: as much as they reasonably can
brain4brain: But by how much
brain4brain: every lab will keep moving forward
metaldragon01: openai will keep moving. they all will
metaldragon01: deepseek super impressive and i dont think many expected google to pop off
brain4brain: Hopefully llama-4 will be good so it force OpenAI to ship
metaldragon01: you'll learn eventually lol
brain4brain: I don’t know, I forgot
brain4brain: Yes
metaldragon01: didnt you doubt google like last week?
brain4brain: Also do you think llama will be another Omni-modal LLM or LLM with all the things they’ve researched like JEPA, LCM, and coconut all in one
metaldragon01: theyve made some serious breakthroughs lately. dont doubt them
brain4brain: Yes, I found the numbers a while back when trying to find the total compute of earth
metaldragon01: you know meta has more compute than xai right?
brain4brain: Highly likely
metaldragon01: the voice model will be popular as well
brain4brain: I highly doubt so, llama-3 is late and wasn’t SOTA
metaldragon01: llama will be sota. the question is just how much
brain4brain: I don’t where they will go next, their head scientist is fixated on JEPA which will likely be very good but they seems to be focusing on both llama and JEPA at the same time and neither of which is SOTA
brain4brain: Google is the second most advanced AI lab right now yet their founder (Demis) said we will have AGI in 10 years
But the CEO of the first, third and fourth most advanced lab (OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI) said we will have AGI in 2025/2026
Why, what, how
zoermena: <@439829942310666250> <@430269783112548362> <@505313122802728972>
.histic: DeepSeek is the new Meta lol
.histic: https://x.com/kevinweil/status/1904712430158307520
free users tomorrow
ldj: 🙏
ldj: Let’s keep them in our thoughts
zonchao: https://x.com/phill__1/status/1904590165256839526
st.sioux: does anyone actually use llama?
metaldragon01: i'm actually nervous for meta ngl
metaldragon01: llama next month too
metaldragon01: now the r2 wait begins followed by gpt 5
metaldragon01: took long enough
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st.sioux: maybe cad
st.sioux: 3d modeling seems to be lacking behind
_3sphere: Pretty sure AI can study gender better by the time it annihilates STEM jobs
memlaswaif: gender studies
memlaswaif: robotics
memlaswaif: hardware
st.sioux: comments on an article about rate limits
st.sioux: it is super slow
zoermena: It was faster yesterday I mean I haven’t made anything today
.wolfnacht: i opened my reddit feed and dis is the first thing i saw
realelonmuskx: bro oai gpus are getting melted, sora queue is like half an hour lmao
_3sphere: Which major is least useless now 💀
zoermena: Fair
zoermena: Temporary rate limits for plus?
futurist_wizard: Being a cs major
futurist_wizard: Probably makes more than she would've
.wolfnacht: the two cs grad routes either a neckbeard or femboy
_cloudost: Once AI takes over the workforce they will be homeless for the rest of their lives
_cloudost: After graduating
_cloudost: CS students usually end up homeless
theaiguy69420_89814: https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/1ji0ym5/stripper_in_the_club_turned_out_to_be_a_cs_major/
.wolfnacht: it trends every year at this point
.wolfnacht: can u just release the grok's api instead of whining here.
_cloudost: I remember it was trending in summer 2023 as well, because some ppl thought its gonna be "released soon"
.0xunkn0wn: what's the best model to write me a paper
hey1_1hey: Usually just rumors that are baselss but who knows 👀
jonvi_1: okey 😅
hey1_1hey: It just happnes some times
jonvi_1: I'm sorry, why is gpt-5 trending??
hey1_1hey: Could be 1 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: 3 gens per day is pretty alright
hey1_1hey: Nah I am not a pay pig. I ask occasionally to see if SamA has gifted me it though. I have done enough shilling anyway
st.sioux:
st.sioux: did u buy plus?
hey1_1hey: Thanks OAI, I love getting cucked
hey1_1hey: WHY IS IT SAYING IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE DALL-E 3 ANYMORE
hey1_1hey: Please tell me my chatgpt isn't regressing
realelonmuskx: this is crazy man. this took 1 month and thousands of $, now 1 minute
spicy.lemonade: but that too ofc
spicy.lemonade: grok and deepseek being new players
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oooooooooog: but no
oooooooooog: i deleted an emoji thinking discord would let me upload another
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/navy-armada-aircraft-carrier-dominate-gif-11313179
brain4brain: Although the anime singularity only have 40 members, it’s already on the super power level of official r/singularity discord and Siev’s server
oooooooooog: eh...
brain4brain: The anime singularity empire will expand…
brain4brain: This server will survive the great boost depression
brain4brain: <@560984241526013954> We will now use <:Alan:1136264610161365003> for :trolled:
spacetimetsunami: Lmaoo
spacetimetsunami: That wasn’t that bad
spacetimetsunami: Why’d u delete that
spacetimetsunami: Mostly with politics
spacetimetsunami: Every time I try and change his mind on something he always is like “okay let’s stop the convo”
brain4brain: And my favorite stickers
brain4brain: I lost my grasp emoji now 😔
spacetimetsunami: I like him but
brain4brain: That is true
spacetimetsunami: I guess…
oooooooooog: that's true, but we need him for the troll emoji
brain4brain: Why
brain4brain: ?
spacetimetsunami: Ps6 is terrifying
oooooooooog: eh???
spacetimetsunami: No i was responding to this
brain4brain: Being annoying is fun
oooooooooog: i was agreeing with u how is that annoying 😭
brain4brain: I have a dream… 😔
oooooooooog: wdym
spacetimetsunami: You’re very annoying for no reason.
brain4brain: PS6 isn’t here to supply the server anymore
spacetimetsunami: He was talking about 3d printing any and all materials, I was just saying it’s not needed for abundance
brain4brain: As a tariff from anime singularity
brain4brain: We ran out of boost
oooooooooog: ah... yes
brain4brain: The server Great Depression
oooooooooog: why isnt it there
oooooooooog: wtf
oooooooooog: :trolled:
brain4brain:
oooooooooog: "you only need to automate everything humans can do for abundance" i agree!!!!
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drewsni: its almost like the noise is a depth map of the image itself
oooooooooog: idk his name
oooooooooog: this was greg balls or whaetver
oooooooooog: seems so
drewsni: even if you have like a "transparent" gen?
oooooooooog: what's weird is that they dont only go in photorealistic images, they go in everything.........................
drewsni: wouldnt think that 4o puts in artifacts, didnt even notice
drewsni: also interesting but the noise lines here match the scanner artifacts
oooooooooog: yeah, but it makes sense for actual images to have noise... not... you know, the product of a denoiser
drewsni: kinda interesting that the noise is similar to the noise of the actual photograph
.histic: 10000%
.histic: yes.
spicy.lemonade: did he actually say this lol
oooooooooog: then dragged it in
.histic:
oooooooooog: i opened google and opened https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/#noise-analysis
drewsni: how did you do that so quickly
spicy.lemonade: march was google and openAI image gen and reasoning
spicy.lemonade: febuary was grok and claude and deepresearch
spicy.lemonade: operator, o3 mini high, and R1
oooooooooog: i prefer noise posting
spicy.lemonade: january was openAI and deepsek
spicy.lemonade: per month
spicy.lemonade: the pattern is 2 major model releases
drewsni: instead, we are moving onto evangelion posting
spicy.lemonade: no more releases this week
drewsni: we arent getting gpt 5 for a while if ghibli posting doesnt stop
zonchao: rookie numbers
ldj: Most of those occurrences seem to be me saying “mentally retarded” as the scientific term.
But there is other situations where I could’ve said something else, I’ll work on that ✊
brain4brain: I’m already getting bored
brain4brain: When AGI
brain4brain: Bro it’s so over no new releases in a day
.histic:
oooooooooog:
ldj: Be nice
oooooooooog: not the input lol
oooooooooog: i thought the clown input was what was generated
oooooooooog: oh im just retarded
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: Watch the whole video
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himekokatagiri: It's just the cope about AI is too big
a1c4p0ne: Most ppl used it when ghibli pics were a trend
himekokatagiri: wannabe philosophy students use it to look smart
himekokatagiri: even though there's a lot of usecases
himekokatagiri: well look not everyone's gonna use an AI
a1c4p0ne: See
himekokatagiri: I mean I guess you gotta be into the IT scene
himekokatagiri: uhhhh
a1c4p0ne: If you ask like 2-3 random people at the mall will they know
himekokatagiri: if I know about it they do
himekokatagiri: bullshit
a1c4p0ne: Normies have no clue about any other model
himekokatagiri: it's free and it's fun
himekokatagiri: but Gemini 2.5 is free
a1c4p0ne: Normies only know 4o they have no idea about reasoning models and how they work
.histic: but they will just rate limit or shut it down
.histic: i guess to some extent you could bankrupt OpenAI if you had a super huge bot farm prompting 4o-mini (which is unlimited to free users) for weeks. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
himekokatagiri: so it's an investment
himekokatagiri: I mean yeah but they're training the model
.histic: well, i don't think he's joking per say, but he knows people will use this as if saying 'please' or 'thank you' burns OpenAI money.
but that logic applies to everything you say to an LLM.
himekokatagiri: fucking rag I've ever saw one
himekokatagiri: aren't they the same guys who make the GTA 6 'journalism'
himekokatagiri: Dexerto
himekokatagiri: Oh
.histic: they used this response, as a reference to OpenAI losing millions.
but Sam wasn't be serious here, it was joking.
himekokatagiri: What does it mean
.histic: OpenAI stays winning.
now normies will use it more due to this.
Sam Altman trolling never gets old.
sarik0497: We did “ban” all mentions of that fruity guy. David Shapiro is not much better than him in terms of being a hypeman.
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> this week is gonna be gemini week
zoermena: I got the clue it was a word from that half R but the only thing I didn’t understand was how the conveyor belt worked, would be cool if AI solved it though
.histic: it's from an r/singularity [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k3yr83/o3_failed_to_solve_this_simple_puzzle/)
it involves a lot of spatial reasoning (shape rotator stuff).
i found it was from a puzzle escape room book called UDEXIA
it's puzzle #14. https://forum.udexia.app/t/udexia-puzzle-14/81/2
it involves looking at each step and moving the pieces, it's like Tetris (the pieces fall down and when they're on the bottom they become stationary) + conveyor belt (on the top, the arrow indications) spatial reasoning. it's supposed to spell out a character apparently. it's hard, and getting the book probably helps you get a better feel of it.
metaldragon01: Internalize that
metaldragon01: People who don't listen to advanced ai will fall behind
metaldragon01: Double edge for sure but certainly the future
metaldragon01: https://x.com/gdb/status/1914106403574452496
futurist_wizard: Cursed
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/im_roy_lee/status/1914061483149001132
otub: so not this year
otub: his agi is one thats embodied in a humanoid robot that can assemble ikea furniture for him
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 = agi?
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nester173: https://arxiv.org/html/2501.16396v1
trojan09205: https://youtu.be/sIdniqkleG4?si=M58OjZ6dmt0UD_t7
trojan09205: Just find a YouTube clip. Its one of the surrealist social commentary films probably of all time
alejandrozarzuelo: Also I'm 24
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't even like football lol
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't understand
alejandrozarzuelo: Like
alejandrozarzuelo: Why
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't watch many films
trojan09205: Its truly a trip that movie
trojan09205: I dont think this server is 18+ so i wont share a yt clip
trojan09205: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film)
trojan09205: Bro the jodorowky classic film
alejandrozarzuelo: There is a fine a dozen
himekokatagiri: Alejandro in youth
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/m_k6Pab5CAo
alejandrozarzuelo: Which one?
alejandrozarzuelo: No
trojan09205: You guys ever seen “The Holy Mountain”
alejandrozarzuelo: It's karaokeizable
hikukomoru: White girl music
alejandrozarzuelo: https://youtu.be/r5yaoMjaAmE?si=KBXMX2lq1tFRlL_r
alejandrozarzuelo: No
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/spinning-rory-charles-graham-rag-n-bone-man-turning-around-the-room-is-spinning-gif-18986961
himekokatagiri: You're clearly not Jacinto 'El Grande' here
alejandrozarzuelo: And I cry when I get down
But I'm only human...
himekokatagiri: So are you
spicy.lemonade: He’s only human
spicy.lemonade: No no he’s right
himekokatagiri: I thought I was weird
himekokatagiri: What's your backstory
alejandrozarzuelo: What?
himekokatagiri: Alejandro what made you like this
hikukomoru: Bro what
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, those decades, 60s 70s...
spicy.lemonade: 💀
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
alejandrozarzuelo: Damn bro, you are good enough to have pussy you don't need to pay for
You should join an orgy one day you have some time
(make sure it's one with fit people and not overweight nymphomaniacs)
spicy.lemonade: We were evacuated <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: If you're friends with the mob boss you can open a bank account under a fake alias
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spicy.lemonade: my eyes love this
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: I love this
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544>
hey1_1hey: Its so good
zoermena: Amazing
hey1_1hey: DAMNNN
spicy.lemonade: loll
drewsni:
.histic: where
wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
drewsni: whos ready for the best 4o image of them all?
hey1_1hey: We need to rehouse them to copeland street
.histic: makes sense
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cope-cursed-gif-25667684
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: lmao
hikukomoru: People be coping
spicy.lemonade: 💀
hey1_1hey: I asked my math friend and he said yes then I said It was AI and then he took back his statement and said there were a few things wrong with it
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I got news if this is correct or not btw
hikukomoru: Sick wallpaper
wellmeaningalien: something in my language 😮 (can vouch its accurate)
joaoluz19: Man i had the image gen and now is just dall-e aaaaaaa
technocake.: this one
technocake.: somebody please make this meme
st.sioux: it just gives me unexpected error
hey1_1hey: Yanno that whole thing "Oh yeah AI can make whatever you dream of" with the cavate that its prob gonna be shit. That cavate has been taken off
wellmeaningalien: 1001%
spicy.lemonade: by a mile
st.sioux: is it working for anyone else?
wellmeaningalien:
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900> is this better than googles
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: We're so Barack
hikukomoru: I can't believe OAI cooked
spicy.lemonade: LFG
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hikukomoru: 🥀
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-scar-surrounded-by-idiots-ugh-gif-5742293
hey1_1hey: Hes gone
hey1_1hey: Big tony
hey1_1hey: NOOOO
wellmeaningalien: idk the generation quality is pretty shit anywaay lol
trent_k: i already have an app that does that
hey1_1hey: We are all gay here aswell
trent_k: why would i use his app
trent_k: 🙄
hganhhh: i presume so
hey1_1hey: I am litterly trans bruh
st.sioux: you think we're against like... trans people? lol
hey1_1hey: Artists are such cunts
hey1_1hey: Thats very artist of you
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> im bringing you down with me
hikukomoru: Damn... Didn't know u were chill like that
.0xunkn0wn: 😭
.0xunkn0wn: i tried to stop you from joining
hganhhh:
wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/tj_littlejohn/status/1905324923259679085?t=3m1QAIKoCMWVQsSf-u-uUA&s=19
wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/tj_littlejohn/status/1905055253709365278?t=-RDwZfOnq48jfL5z74V4sQ&s=19
joaoluz19: Makoto 🥵
hey1_1hey: Not all AI enthusitits like Elon you melon
fractalcomputer: Right.
hganhhh: im bringing you down with me
hikukomoru: We love Elon!
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-tesla-siliconvalley-dance-twitter-gif-736329299122305506
.0xunkn0wn: what 😭
hganhhh: lol
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154>told me y'all do
hey1_1hey: I mean I fucking hate the cunt but hey ho
st.sioux: is this guy even a troll he's just boring
fractalcomputer: Do you presume that we all love Musk?
hey1_1hey: Hes quirky and stuff
hganhhh: ok
hey1_1hey: Dont ban him tho.
fractalcomputer: No, I would not.
fractalcomputer: Huh.
hikukomoru:
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maintcrew: i unironically think chinese android pussy is coming
think about it.
They developed covid which destroyed the economy
They developed TikTok which destroyed the brain of million of people
hey1_1hey: Congrats
hey1_1hey: Yipiee
clevermoniker:
fractalcomputer: The voices of my ancestors whisper to me of a universe filled with thought and light where nothing dies forever and God does not play with mad dice.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924
hey1_1hey: third times the charm
hey1_1hey: twice
hey1_1hey: Rip, embed fail
wellmeaningalien: at best youre just ass burgers
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: lol ur gonna be okay then
wellmeaningalien: asian cultures like classifying people. theyre also obsessed with MBTI
maintcrew: nah im good lol nobody is RTFMing me
hey1_1hey: "🌟Yeah I'm AB 🌟 "
fractalcomputer: My carnal existence is a grotesque edifice to the demiurge.
trent_k: anyway can someone have 4o image magic translate to english
hikukomoru: I'll settle with a CCP-made Chinese Android wife
trent_k: yeah i heard something like that in japan. ig the chinese do it too
wellmeaningalien: nah shes autistic
hey1_1hey: WHAT
maintcrew: nah in asian culture blood types are like zodiacs
wellmeaningalien: and yeah there are a lot of packages + an AUR like package overlay system (not as supported tho)
hey1_1hey: Prob not a good start
wellmeaningalien: well be careful if u arent sufficiently versed in linux theyre gonna give u shit lol but theyre generally pretty ok
maintcrew: need me that chinese spy schizo pussy
trent_k: i put it in google translate once and it has their blood types listed lmao
hikukomoru: Chinese schizo girl
maintcrew: is she ... an actual schizo ...
hey1_1hey: What a cutie patootie
trent_k: bizarre drawings by a chinese child
hey1_1hey: These litterly look like schzioposts
st.sioux: her victims
spicy.lemonade: atleast theyl look better
hikukomoru: Ew
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: Wtf is this
wellmeaningalien: what is this??
wellmeaningalien: sooo clearly dall-e
wellmeaningalien: dude theres a daycare center in my city with an ai logo and a tech shop with an ai illustration on it. plus my mall uses ai pictures too
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jonvi_1: Try sora
literallyvarane: Still waiting on access to image gen big sad
maintcrew: or maybe rizz a us citizen and get marriage citizenship
jonvi_1: it's like actually useful
jonvi_1: actually
hey1_1hey: I mean I uniroically do autistic stims and occasinly do echocolia (copying what people say) so people KNOW I am autistic
jonvi_1: This is like crazy
zoermena: That’s the goal, the easiest way to do it for me is to enter a multinational, second way is to somehow get rich and pay citizenship
futurist_wizard: https://embrace-autism.com/reading-the-mind-in-the-eyes-test/#test
You should do this test
technocake.: not london
hey1_1hey: But ty anyway
hey1_1hey: Doesn't seem like it
maintcrew: move to the us mexican bro (but legally)
hikukomoru: That's a compliment btw
hey1_1hey: I make friends really easily tho
hikukomoru: You're autistic as shit
zoermena: I dislike the city but due to work I should move there
hey1_1hey: That explains a lot
hey1_1hey: Thanks
hey1_1hey: Ah yeah
technocake.: in many countries yes
maintcrew: diverging from normal
hey1_1hey: If someone asked me what my interest would I woulkd happily sit there for 6 hours talking to them about mushrooms and AI
maintcrew: yea but ur supposed to be neuro divergent bro
zoermena: I mean I might move if I get to the company I want to work for after college
hikukomoru: No just autistic
hey1_1hey: Am I insane for that
technocake.: tiktok brainrot only
oooooooooog: i'll let you provide evidence for that statement, since i'm a kind person
hey1_1hey: Like what
hey1_1hey: I would
zoermena: Bro I’m not rich
maintcrew: yea thats my point
most ppl wont respond with their hyper niche interests bc they dont want to sit explaining
alejandrozarzuelo: I just think I am just a bit pedantic
The necessary amount of course
futurist_wizard: It is
hey1_1hey: They look at me like I asked them what p = np is
hey1_1hey: I litterly just ask what theres are
hey1_1hey: I dont even say my interests
maintcrew: ike really
maintcrew: nicotine is good for you
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destrucules: SETI is a private institute, not publicly funded
st.sioux: https://www.seti.org/
destrucules: Really? Pray tell - what would we expect to see?
anathemaofmankind: I mean a dyson sphere would be pretty noticeable by using our satellites
destrucules: Furthermore, this is an idea, not something that actually exists right now.
st.sioux: fusion has been pretty close for a while i dont know if its like that close tho
zoermena: And fighting corruption
destrucules: Spectroscopy of exoplanets is not the same as looking for free floating space probes. Looking for chemical disequilibria in faraway atmospheres is not looking for alien civilizations.
zoermena: Well cheaper food is just a question of companies not being greedy af
zoermena: 2030 & beyond maybe
st.sioux: next 5 years
clevermoniker: when will something actually cool happen like new form of energy or cheaper food happen? <:huh:1136266753656238243>
destrucules: Did you read the article?
anathemaofmankind: https://www.space.com/space-exploration/search-for-life/nasa-wants-a-super-hubble-space-telescope-to-search-for-life-on-alien-worlds
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/green-alien-dance-area-52-ufo-gif-1248165054330583464
destrucules: How many?
anathemaofmankind: Some of them are?
destrucules: Astronomers don't look for extraterrestrial intelligence
oooooooooog: pretty sure we got astronomers and what not
metaldragon01: Ants don't see the stars either.
destrucules: We don't look for them. You can't see with your eyes closed
st.sioux: something functionally similar, there would be a convergence point
anathemaofmankind: No celestial megastructures
oooooooooog: not yet 👽
anathemaofmankind: Because we don't see any of them
destrucules: Who says there aren't?
zoermena: For plus we have unlimited images and videos
oooooooooog: unlimited!?!??!
anathemaofmankind: If so why aren't there autonomous drones everywhere in space
zoermena: I can rest in peace now that I have unlimited 4o gen
anathemaofmankind: Do you think other civilizations also develop this as an inevitability
oooooooooog: you know.
oooooooooog: nuclear war...
oooooooooog: etc
oooooooooog: meteor kabooooom
oooooooooog: and still isnt
oooooooooog: it wasn't always going to happen to humans, though.
st.sioux: it was always going to happen, it was a natural step in technological development
clevermoniker: now its too late
clevermoniker: or at least before chat gpt
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artemisfowl887394: New God Detected
artemisfowl887394: It'll only be detected if it chooses to be detected
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/aliens-giorgio-conspiracion-memealiens-aliens-history-historychannel-gif-9621737
artemisfowl887394: God doesn't need to be detected
darkstar0818: It does seem like if someone is going to bother being agnostic they should at least explore possibilities.
fractalcomputer: Suppose God intervenes in the cosmos, at least occasionally; then we should be able to detect these changes, no? And if indeed the idea of an agent of sort acting out these changes is the hypothesis with the most predictive power, should we not favour this notion?
spacetimetsunami: Jesus LOL
maintcrew: is there any machine god church that's somewhat popular chat
artemisfowl887394: I know. Does this information make any sense?
hikukomoru: I'm here for my daily dose of Fractal 🙏
Gooning can cum later
maintcrew: come and take it
darkstar0818: I think you are conflating human ideas and individual beliefs with organized human religions.
777agical: What would it take to know for sure and how likely would that happen
fractalcomputer: What if the world were made out of pudding?
maintcrew: ur so evil
maintcrew: no fucking way u generated a mockup
artemisfowl887394: What if the thing you've been praying to isn't GOD but the Gnostic Demon who has trapped your soul here?
_3sphere: Says you
fractalcomputer: But I do hate the kind of flacid agnosticism that is nothing more than an acquiescence to ignorance.
hikukomoru: No gooning in general please
anathemaofmankind: Yeah well religions are the primary proponents of claims of divinity
artemisfowl887394: I only worship one Goddess and you can't jerk off to Artemis
darkstar0818: It seems to me your constraints on what would or would not constitute a god or God is colored by human religions.
anathemaofmankind: Mommy please answer my prayer
fractalcomputer: Agnosticism is an epistemological position. I very much believe that we can have knowledge of God's existence - contra Kant.
alejandrozarzuelo: it really does
anathemaofmankind: I want God to be female so I can jack off to her
777agical: This sounds almost agnostic which I thought you frowned upon <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
fractalcomputer: As for metaphysical beliefs, I flicker between Platonism, ontological nihilism and Kantianism depending on my mood.
spicy.lemonade: This looks real asf
artemisfowl887394: That doesn't make our morals don't exist. That just means God is not aligned to us.
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: Take the bait
fractalcomputer: I believe in things I find fun to believe in; which might very well vary from moment to moment. I have some reasons to believe in the existence of a deistic figure; and on the other hand things would be much more interesting if it were not so, no?
anathemaofmankind: A hypothetical creator would transcend all moral stipulations since he is the one who assigns meaning
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185322173708128406/1354694148107534476/GnBkO9CakAAyVyK.png?ex=67e638bd&is=67e4e73d&hm=ca96647abc60a7d358a21c3347fd9ced094f6c633ea16687344fc4ef76f71654&
darkstar0818: Hmm creator, would supreme troll also qualify?
alejandrozarzuelo: there are very few people who are religious, but whose god doesnt follow the characteristics of axialized religion
universal benevolent gods who stablish moral codes for humanity and that have in-built reward systems
spacetimetsunami: <@749514473303179358> by the way, out of curiosity, do you believe in god or anything similar to the definition? What are your metaphysical opinions
artemisfowl887394: Gott ist tott
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alejandrozarzuelo: You don't know the glories of socialism
alejandrozarzuelo: Ahh sorry you are American
alejandrozarzuelo: May day
spicy.lemonade: When
spicy.lemonade: ?
trent_k:
alejandrozarzuelo: R2 DROPPING ON MAYDAY
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I saw this same thing happen when someone called spacex "Sissy SpaceX"
tchekof: technocapital is our best friend, everything will be alright, we just need better algorithms :insane:
tchekof: long live billionaires and free speech!
zonchao: <:reedly:1122484993097216052>
tchekof: i'm sure Elon will only use it for the betterment of humanity and nothing else
luigi_48684: thx
luigi_48684: ok perfect, thx
hey1_1hey: Thats actually incredibly based
zonchao: https://x.com/xDaily/status/1916025632699650071 <:Prayge:818931515291205643> <:praying_hd:1230897753580634123>
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1915868302624039370 lmao
himekokatagiri: I'm good
zonchao: staged
.0xunkn0wn: and his huawei ADS drove him home even paying tolls on the highway lmao 😭
.0xunkn0wn: like some chinese guy fell asleep in his car
.0xunkn0wn: i started wondering if chinese autopilots arent better than tesla fsd 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: Stop posting my pictures, it's embarrassing
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
clevermoniker: if its a year behind or something like that its basically irrelevant when people can just use other stuff, there will be no publicity
clevermoniker: like i would take even within 20%
clevermoniker: yes, but hopefully the model is near sota so that people can actually start caring about it, i mean near sota for its size of course
otub: decentralized training is important for open source <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
clevermoniker: hopefully its... near sota or no one will care?
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
zonchao: ai tpot
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt this what sperm banks are?
Also why are you sharing this on general? its not really appropiate
memlaswaif: can relate
zonchao: https://x.com/jenny____ai/status/1915966061482029132? gm
wolf3404: LFG
alejandrozarzuelo: I hope it drops soon
alejandrozarzuelo: But it will still be great
alejandrozarzuelo: For a week
ailoveyoom: Until Google ships 🥺🙏
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brain4brain: I almost did it, but I were limited by the technology of my time
spicy.lemonade: doxxing is unrelated to the subject matter
brain4brain: Also btw this is the average anti ai people, shitty art and satanic
drewsni: thats fine but this recent trend is literally significantly beneficial to ghibli
spicy.lemonade: doxing is crazy
oooooooooog: another way you can make people upset is to dox them, why don't you guys try that out as well?
brain4brain: I want a new slur to say to these “people”
spicy.lemonade: fuck it lets generate some furry art
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: I have
drewsni: i cannot confirm that ive done this before out of pettiness
oooooooooog: not really
spicy.lemonade: this is bigger than any individual
spicy.lemonade: it is your obligation as a human to consent to your data to be given to asi god
clevermoniker: yeah, for most/a lot of things you don't even need lora with 4o
oooooooooog: there is no such thing as moral high ground
spicy.lemonade: base 4o can do fr
spicy.lemonade: dont even need lora
clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
brain4brain: They would lose their shit
brain4brain: Make them even angrier if any of those “artist” have art on their profile, use it as reference for GPT-4o or train a LoRa with it and just replicate their OC or art
inferno0879: Just sad cunts
spicy.lemonade: wait till the death threats come in
spicy.lemonade: 45 comments and counting😭
inferno0879: Fuck em
spicy.lemonade: cant even post stuff I enjoy
spicy.lemonade: fr
inferno0879: Unfortunate
clevermoniker: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
spicy.lemonade: telling me im a piece of shit
spicy.lemonade: and artists flood my comments
spicy.lemonade: I make a post on AI on my insta
spicy.lemonade: hard to ignore
spacetimetsunami: I am an actual artist. Most of the AI art is just as good. Sometimes better.
inferno0879: Just give up and chill
spicy.lemonade: lets be fr
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1906516343207452852
spicy.lemonade: no THEY dont
spicy.lemonade:
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spicy.lemonade: agi late june-july?
spicy.lemonade: aparrently an exponential chart has the lowest error so
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: Clearly I’m not high iq, how do you solve this or how does it work, are those instructions to move the pieces?
rayanquitplayin: Hello
.histic: high iq puzzle
spicy.lemonade: fuck you😭
futurist_wizard: Click for big juicy ass
futurist_wizard: Since you know what it is
futurist_wizard: Please don't tell me you engage in that too
himekokatagiri: I don't believe in trolling anymore
trent_k: And also mentally ill
ailoveyoom: Which is its own niche
trent_k: No he's absolutely serious
ailoveyoom: JOI could be slang for jerk off instructions
ailoveyoom: I'm p sure he's trolling
zoermena: What even is this
trent_k: If you have an AI girlfriend, you have no right to speak about anything. Shut the fuck up
trent_k: Schizo
trent_k: 🚨
himekokatagiri: hey gotta cover all bases
.histic: that seems like a paranoid concern..
that guy who posted is a right-leaning maga and elon lover.
he's also a memer.
so, he's just trolling.
futurist_wizard:
.histic: @growing_daniel is the right guy here <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: if we have an ASI that has means it can make the whole friggin' kandy kolored delusion real and then we're on a train to palookasville you get that
himekokatagiri: well yeah shit but a lot of wiseguys believed in god
.histic: well, that guy is a troll.
and as you said, it's easter.
himekokatagiri: I know it's bait since it's ehhh easter y'know but uh what if it happens for real
himekokatagiri: seen this?
himekokatagiri: https://x.com/growing_daniel/status/1913985158916768031?s=46
himekokatagiri: <@937125337748348999> hey pal
.histic: joking.. (maybe).
.histic: if a model solves this without instructions, we have AGI
himekokatagiri: such decline
himekokatagiri: lol
wolf3404: OAI went from "100% Lazer focused on creating AGI" to "we're creating a social media platform, a search engine, a Shopify app, and basically anything that feeds Sama's ego" real fast
playstation.6: AGI 2077
gamerbath: AI-powered shopping ✨
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nsec: <:blu:818162243950084157>
nsec: I wanna see the long text man's take
nsec: how much would u sacrifice
nsec: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1227814510429995049/1365977180991131650
spicy.lemonade: you indeed do care about openAi and google
spicy.lemonade: deepseek will never be sota
nsec: <:pain:745576122221068318>
spicy.lemonade: yes you do
nsec: u aint need it
nsec: give up your leg
nsec: <:1000yardstare:1168066462288715787>
nsec: against sacrifcing for the greater good
nsec: y r u frauds
nsec: <@1152183706849644615>
nsec: <@1316552597829586955>
.wolfnacht: they declared: Total Roleplayer and Smut Writer Death 😔
st.sioux: why dont u care about gogolo or openai anymore bb
st.sioux: techno simp
.wolfnacht: it'll be uncensored (except taiwan) and more efficient so it'll be diamond for me. idc abt google or OpenAI anymore
playstation.6: Will we have techno limps for as good as human limps in 2029 and all body implants?
st.sioux: sundar pichai fraud
st.sioux: has agi been canceled from 2027 to 2029
spicy.lemonade: no thats agi
playstation.6: Singularity is 2029
spicy.lemonade: ?
playstation.6: 2045 is the start of the 6th epoch not the singularity
spicy.lemonade: probably by next year ill get new arm
spicy.lemonade: we get asi before singularity
spicy.lemonade: even then
spicy.lemonade: 10 years with no arm is light
spicy.lemonade: assumng singularity max 2045
spicy.lemonade: twice as fast means 10 years max
playstation.6: 🍆
playstation.6: Make it more spicy, it’s an easy yes.
spicy.lemonade: singularity arrives i can get a new one
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: what kinda question is this
spicy.lemonade: itl be ass
.wolfnacht: maybe first week of may.
spicy.lemonade: never
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hikukomoru: Besides I don't need makeup to look cute
hey1_1hey: I am not rocking up in cargo shorts and a vest
hey1_1hey: Apart for when it comes to fashion...
futurist_wizard: I feel for your situation, working and school sounds taxing, what are you training to be?
hey1_1hey: I mean I do to in fairness. Efficient is always best
zoermena: Correct but I have a cushion. I just need to pass this class besides the topic is not useful for me. It’s about leadership and sustainability.
hikukomoru: No
I like to keep things simple
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
a1c4p0ne: Just do it
zoermena: And the weather sucks too. I’m in my car rn.
hikukomoru: I could look like that but I just don't want to
sarik0497: Same. Problem is that many professors take attendance in mind when giving grades.
wellmeaningalien: i forgot to include clown
wellmeaningalien: lol
futurist_wizard:
zoermena: I’ve always thought this and usually I’ve held true that I study more effectively on my own compared to the classroom.
hey1_1hey: I mean he prob fetish posted less but thats about it
zoermena: Yes.
futurist_wizard: You've got school and work?
sarik0497: *slap* Go study, fool.
wellmeaningalien: i bet hitler wasnt as bad as this
hey1_1hey: As a nazi I take great offense to this 💔
zoermena: I’m too tired to go to my first class. I’ll skip it.
wellmeaningalien: we had grammar nazis and now we have reply nazis
wellmeaningalien: yeah bro i tried to reply and failed
hey1_1hey: I saw that
hey1_1hey: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
wellmeaningalien: aye i can do that for you
wellmeaningalien: LOL they pacified her
zoermena: Not really
.wolfnacht: Anyone tried giving vintage artists a modern look ? lets say marilyn monroe, now a clown goth girl ?
wellmeaningalien: brother have you not realised? the written openai policies are but the one and only qu'ran brother
wellmeaningalien: I trust gpt 4o not to make actual nightmare fuel
zonchao: https://x.com/lporiginalg/status/1906572191728025601? 💀
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: dis what she actually looks liike
a1c4p0ne: Maybe
hey1_1hey: Can you fix me aswell 🙏
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: <@505313122802728972> fixed you
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aero447: 😮💨
aero447: Not even one lost job.
aero447: Buddy flew too close to the sun.
aero447: Say less.
aero447: HULK HOGAN.
aero447: WE COMING FOR YO ASS.
aero447: GUESS WHAT.
wellmeaningalien: LOL
wellmeaningalien: its probably not been provided with it's model nomenclature
wellmeaningalien: you can get gpt 4.5 to say it's gpt 4o and you can get deepseek v3 to say it's gpt 4o
wellmeaningalien: it'll hallucinate
.wolfnacht: fire it "you are u gpt-3" or "4" or "5" or some other question like that, and it'll always tell "i'm part of 4o family"..for some reason.
metaldragon01: <:RIP:889257652650131456>
hey1_1hey: "Its full of soul" they said
hey1_1hey: 😭
joaoluz19: Yeah, I saw wrong
wellmeaningalien: nah that cant possibly be it
wellmeaningalien: im actually starting to get confused whats the scoop here
.wolfnacht: new 4o (most probably)
wellmeaningalien: what the sigma is quasar
.wolfnacht: https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/quasar-alpha
metaldragon01: That's just a guess. Hard to accurately guess parameters these days tbh.
joaoluz19: They said in the link
metaldragon01: Where are you getting the 20b from?
joaoluz19: And only 20B
metaldragon01: Model was stealth dropped on openrouter.ai with 1 million context and popular
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1jr35zl/mystery_model_on_openrouter_quasaralpha_is/
spacetimetsunami: Quasar?
.wolfnacht: i believe quasar is the new 4o
metaldragon01: And 1 million on maverick
metaldragon01: 10 million context window as well
metaldragon01: I feel like people just forget the perks of opensource and having a western model people trust.
wellmeaningalien: yeah thats true but i meaaaaaan
joaoluz19: Anyway isn't Meta's chief scientist literally a disbeliever of LLMs? So that's why I want to look at the other architectures
metaldragon01: ......the point is open research and flexibility
wellmeaningalien: might just be more worth it to wait for better closed models
wellmeaningalien: whats the point anyway if you cant run it on ur computer i should ask tho
wellmeaningalien: i think this is deepseek v3.1
metaldragon01: L4 is open sourced and will be finetuned
wellmeaningalien: post update deepseek v3, like gpt 4o, is pretty damn good tho
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spicy.lemonade: "generating"
sieventer:
st.sioux: hype
spicy.lemonade: and netherportal mechanics
spicy.lemonade: lemme ask it to make nether
spicy.lemonade: hmm
st.sioux: thought u were building a portal to the nether for a sec
spicy.lemonade: idk just some red block
spicy.lemonade: the arm has an animation too
st.sioux: is that obsidian
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: god damn
spicy.lemonade: wtf does cursor do
spicy.lemonade: the performance
spicy.lemonade: cursor like 10x's
spicy.lemonade: my god
spicy.lemonade: let me add inventory
spicy.lemonade: stone
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: one shot
spicy.lemonade: its perfect
spicy.lemonade: holy fucking shit
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: lmao imagine its all wrong
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/aidan_mclau/status/1912567237883650235?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
spicy.lemonade: will wait for cursor tho
spicy.lemonade: or even simple version
spicy.lemonade: still cant one shot mc
spicy.lemonade: kinda mid
spicy.lemonade: alot of work to be done still
axpg1297: ive been out of the llm scene for a min, whats the current sota for more general use cases/not pure coding? like how sonnet 3.5 was the most human to talk to.
a1c4p0ne: New phone you’re good
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: O3 will crash on older iPhones
literallyvarane: They’re too wide for mobile you gotta scroll
st.sioux: like wide
st.sioux: am i tripping or are the tables way too big
literallyvarane: o3 does seem to love its tables
metaldragon01: And excellent IF
metaldragon01: Big improvement in writing for sure
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sweetievee__33649: how could i forget
precariousworlds.: 17th time komoru has posted this same gif in the last 24 hours
zonchao: true
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474
sweetievee__33649: i think there should be a cooking benchmark for humanoid robots
drewsni: Reduced suffering in the world has always led to increased appreciation for art, and the ability to pay for art
hikukomoru: Of course they do, China is based
precariousworlds.: If Europe locked in though we would be unstoppable
Remember we once did this in like a few decades
zonchao: seems like a good benchmark
zonchao: i wonder when we will have paint benchmarks for humanoids
sweetievee__33649: even china has more stuff going on
hikukomoru: EU is so cucked 🙏
sweetievee__33649: sure ig i just hate water bottle lid people
precariousworlds.: bigot
sweetievee__33649: they are annoying
drewsni: I 10000000% believe that established artists, who are good at their craft and medium will not only thrive under AI/AGI, but have a significantly increased market
sweetievee__33649: i dont like the new water bottle lids
ailoveyoom: AI art for accessibility/democratizing art, ig commissioning stuff as a 'luxury' ?
precariousworlds.: 🇪🇺
precariousworlds.: yeah but at least we have usb-c and those water bottles right
futurist_wizard: We sit in the cuck chair and watch Americans have all the fun with ai
ailoveyoom: This makes me wonder if there's a middle ground somewhere. A future where AI art and commissioning people can co-exist?
sweetievee__33649: hope it goes well
futurist_wizard: People in Europe could get it at the same time as the us but we are safety cucks
tors.exe: i will make new one then and see . thanks for advice
sweetievee__33649: people in the us are gonna get it sooner than everywhere else
hikukomoru: Hello your holiness, try to create a new account
futurist_wizard: Catty
sweetievee__33649: its probably just a location thing
drewsni: But in the end it’s all noise, the good artists will still be commissioned for good pieces even when AI can make whatever you want
_cloudost: Make a new account
_cloudost: I created a new account and got it right away
drewsni: It’s the anime convention artists that drive prices to literal bottom barrel prices that I take issue with
sweetievee__33649: aww thats pretty cute though
sweetievee__33649: this might just be me but i would never. if i can just get an art peice in less than a minite and its better than the thing they are going to make i dont see the point
drewsni: Like I’ve never been against paying art
drewsni: I’m literally picking this oil painting up in 3 hours. Had it commissioned for my wife’s birthday (it’s our cat)
zonchao: reddit artists >>>> especially when they give you higher def shit for free
ailoveyoom: Even now with AI, you still commission people?
zonchao: idk then
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metaldragon01: Girl beat darksouls with just her brain
futurist_wizard: Not accurately
futurist_wizard: But it's something
metaldragon01: Technically we can do thus today
futurist_wizard: But that's not what full immersion vr is
futurist_wizard: I don't think we are far away from VR without controllers, just using eeg from the brain to control a fullbody, probably 5 years away? 10 at most
hikukomoru: I mean, if you don't have memories of you entering it sure
metaldragon01: Yeap very simple and the pattern Is obviously going that way with more personalized content
zoermena: 👍
futurist_wizard: What i said is basically fdvr
zoermena: Imagine you are in FDVR already and it’s so ass that you can’t goon in public
futurist_wizard: I don't know what fdvr is
ailoveyoom: I mean, won't sufficiently advanced FDVR fully fool you? You won't know you're in one lol
futurist_wizard: We have no idea how to do this currently
futurist_wizard: As if it were happening in reality
hikukomoru: It's just a natural consequence of expanding compute and also developments in neuroscience
futurist_wizard: Reality is being interpreted using electric signals in your brain, override all those signals, congratulations you can experience whatever
hikukomoru: Modern VR would've been seen as looney decades ago too
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/making-heart-sending-smile-gif-6413487854864934513
zonchao: idk seems looney
hikukomoru: Ethics are retarded
hikukomoru: So what
himekokatagiri: That's unethical
hikukomoru: Just use another account
hikukomoru: Why don't you belive in FDVR
himekokatagiri: I'll try to fix it but my limit is shot
fractalcomputer:
himekokatagiri: This is the reference I used
himekokatagiri: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881277156330729512/1365746990587318313/199119.png?ex=680e6e80&is=680d1d00&hm=1bd4d63bff66f41e6fd217ddf3090f8bf61bd6f3e21c5c2fa596bc19c28a95d9&
hikukomoru: Why is Himeko a SS officer
himekokatagiri: I just used a reference
hikukomoru: Y'know, black military cap with a skull on it...
himekokatagiri: But the eyes are wrong
zonchao: ngl I dont believe in FDVR but maybe ASI can do it
hikukomoru: That hat looks kind of sus
himekokatagiri: This one is nicer
himekokatagiri:
zoermena: <:CatShock:665362219134877696>
himekokatagiri: I'll ask gpt to fix it
himekokatagiri: This was the original
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hey1_1hey: I aint fucking no bear
ailoveyoom: Bonus
hey1_1hey: LITTERLY
ailoveyoom: Bear 😍
hikukomoru: Perfect 😍
hey1_1hey: HE WAS A BEAR MF
ailoveyoom: But he was hot <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: Perfect
hey1_1hey: Exactly
joaoluz19: Yep
ailoveyoom: She will break u
hikukomoru: Let women be evil ffs
hey1_1hey: I hated that mf
hikukomoru: I don't wanna fix her
She's already perfect
ailoveyoom: Did you get Halsin at least
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-baenre-baldur%27s-gate-baldur%27s-gate-3-oh-my-goodness-gracious-gif-16670621352091531806
joaoluz19: She can turn good i guess, don't know because i killed her lol
hey1_1hey: MY wife thank you very much
hey1_1hey:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-bg3-minthy-minthy-bg3-bg3-gif-8080327748630034918
hikukomoru: Are you talking about my wife
ailoveyoom: Mommynthara
hey1_1hey: blue ish skin
hey1_1hey: She was really hot
hikukomoru: I love her
hikukomoru: Ugly frog bitch
hey1_1hey: There was also that evil one in act 1
ailoveyoom: Bae'zel 😍
hey1_1hey: She was a bitch
hikukomoru: What about Minthy <:uwu:1136266737420079195>
hey1_1hey: Fuck weird lizard lady, lah zel... I dont know how to spell
ailoveyoom: Okay, let me rephrase. Favorite romance? 😈
hey1_1hey: 100% it
hey1_1hey: All of them
ailoveyoom: Who did you romance?
sarik0497: There's legit no FOMO at all in FF14. The only thing you can't unlock from earlier is some old PvP season rewards, and they are returning in the next patch (7.2)
hey1_1hey: One of the best imo
hey1_1hey: Yeah I've played it, goated game
hey1_1hey: I love me a good MMO, I have basicailly played them all, even the weird subgerne ones like wyncraft
ailoveyoom: Did you play the game fr or are you just reccing it?
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drewsni: but theyd get along for sure
technocake.: omfg
drewsni: no
drewsni: yes
technocake.: is that elizer?
trent_k: we're entering a whole new era of shitposting
drewsni: yeah like thats obviously not his table but it definitely could be, its insane the understanding it has
trent_k: the one pokemon card showing his weakness as water got me good lol
trent_k: the details on these are nuts
drewsni: almost forgot the best one
jonvi_1: poem does not fit the vibe of the image lol
jonvi_1:
drewsni: its the 2022 version before it got desecrated
trent_k: u dont know the story of the grease wizard?
memlaswaif: Is that u
trent_k: it made the bug chair way too clean
trent_k: lmaooooo
drewsni: go ahead lmao i dont have an account
trent_k: oh shit i didnt even catch that
drewsni: its crazy it even knows a decent amount of what his room should look like
trent_k: im bout to post these in his KF thread, theyll love this
trent_k: aw hell yes
drewsni:
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
joaoluz19:
trent_k: like in the toilet? wtf
trent_k: it's also kinda poorly released, like how free users still get dall-e and there's no clear distinction which you're using at any given time
jonvi_1: It hasn't reached normal people yet
drewsni: Trent I’m about to drop a bunch of shit
st.sioux: not sure how many people pay for plus
trent_k: once it hits free users it's gonna pop off big time
st.sioux: most people cant even use it yet probably
anathemaofmankind: How is the 4o update honestly not trending more in social media
jonvi_1: Impressed by the amount of text input it could take in and then put into the image
jonvi_1: Made by o4
technocake.: its mad deppressing
technocake.: why does it feel like im the only person that hasn't seen this anime
wolf3404: https://x.com/vikhyatk/status/1904690609035894850
burnytech:
futurist_wizard: Making things up now
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