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spicy.lemonade: meta fell off spicy.lemonade: image gen papers post 4o image gen💔 zoermena: <:coy:1187466404367175821> zoermena: Google and longevity is also unrelated yet they still have dibs on calico zonchao: Google owns 9% of spacex zonchao: doubt, probably just elon x Larry and Sergey google was not thinking about robotics a decade ago trey6033: Seems like a smart decision so far spicy.lemonade: perhaps they wanan do robotics in space or something spicy.lemonade: idk google and space seem unrelated zonchao: it was long ago zonchao: wdym why 💀 spicy.lemonade: why zonchao: Google invested in spacex zonchao: no spicy.lemonade: why? spicy.lemonade: elon invested in google? zoermena: <:elonLOL:692368142739177532> zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1915554435339632744 funding agi 😈 zoermena: That is Komoru ldj: joaoluz19: And the Xai are just lunatics joaoluz19: Roon is the worst joaoluz19: Logan for me is the best functionary trey6033: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1915542933006148020 Logan low-key funny zoermena: 👍🏼 zoermena: True alternatively I could develop a REIT or just buy all land and charge rent to companies to build data center darkstar0818: lands cheap, its the gpus that are expensive. zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/data-center-security-market-gif-25525393 zoermena: I should buy land to build data center joaoluz19: Gary Marcus is like that villain from batman arkhan that appears when you die darkstar0818: Just give me a co-programmer agent. I don't need anything fancy. joaoluz19: It's over spicy.lemonade: joaoluz19: Yeah I think they are talking about agents that do non-trivial economic value tasks darkstar0818: google needs to drop a real agent, I just finished my new gameframe work enough to where i can hand it over to an agent 😛 zoermena: We already have agents (operator) it’s just mid spicy.lemonade: according to them 2025 will be mostly mid spicy.lemonade: im going by the ai 2027 paper darkstar0818: it sadens me to see all of these new google fans. spicy.lemonade: we will get the first agent end of year yeah
hikukomoru: You're very condescending alejandrozarzuelo: I dont think so, if i am i do apologize hikukomoru: futurist_wizard: Your pfp is ugly af, you must change it spicy.lemonade: the rate usually is aligned with openAI releases tho fractalcomputer: Heresy! alejandrozarzuelo: I dont really care that much about openAI... there are more companies memlaswaif: u r allowed to rude to aspicy imo hikukomoru: You're a real bitch to me sometimes futurist_wizard: Alejandro is sassy hikukomoru: Aren't you rude too fractalcomputer: I don't value feelings. spicy.lemonade: lol alejandrozarzuelo: You are so rude with everyone, spicy wasnt making a grand statement, he was just expressing his feelings fractalcomputer: But someone knows the date when Altman will finally unleash GPT-oAGI upon the world? futurist_wizard: Gpt 5 won't be agi hikukomoru: Disappointed Fractal is like a disappointed parent spicy.lemonade: gpt 6 will likeley be inovator spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 is this year. gpt 6 likeley 2027. gpt 7 is 2029 fractalcomputer: Don't parrot that religious bullshit back at me. alejandrozarzuelo: ah i do have a thing or two to say i think we will see mass unemployment and revolution right after except in China as they will be already prepared because their political system is tailor made to this very event memlaswaif: If it starts making a profit it's agi memlaswaif: top tier swe is agi to me <a:bcaShrug1:470733960771534854> joaoluz19: It's called singularity for a reason futurist_wizard: Then yea spicy.lemonade: after agi, nothing changes the first year. people fuck around a bit. openAI devlops ASI in house. they start solving problems and slowy announce breakthroughs drip by drip futurist_wizard: Or if its just a personal gut feeling joaoluz19: Predicting singularity timelines or things like RSI has nothing to do with predicting the world after wellmeaningalien: because who fookin knows? futurist_wizard: On what basis does your timeline even matter though, i just parrot timelines from experts fractalcomputer: As always, feelings dictate the truth. fractalcomputer: People are always so prone to discuss their specific prediction dates but are always equally disinterested in discussing what will come afterwards; surely if you're that confident in your own predictive capabilities, you should have a thing or two to say about the immediate aftermath. spicy.lemonade: feels inevitable that itl be soon spicy.lemonade: even then if we dont get agi we will have top tier swe and math systems that can work agentically. which will speed up research on its own futurist_wizard: I'll be more precise with you next, i forgor the autism 🥺 😔 alejandrozarzuelo: a 50% chance of 2030 is only slightly more pessimistic than I am memlaswaif: Yeah I mean add a year or 2 to 2030 if u want alejandrozarzuelo: ahh futurist_wizard: YEARS alejandrozarzuelo: what is that
brain4brain: Wasabi flavored oooooooooog: only reason to cook them is in a carrot cake or soemthing spacetimetsunami: ty oooooooooog: gross oooooooooog: carrots just become floppy asf when u cook them .histic: just out of the dirt .histic: raw carrots are so good st.sioux: bro st.sioux: carrots can be cooked bro oooooooooog: you can't cook a carrot bro oooooooooog: what else is there st.sioux: raw carrots oooooooooog: wdym st.sioux: raw? .histic: do you see in the dark now? oooooooooog: very high in fiber oooooooooog: i just ate a whole bag of carrrots brain4brain: Rookies number, we’re already dead. brain4brain: It cluttered the channel but here: https://discord.gg/eleutherai oooooooooog: as a decimal? brain4brain: I like over 9000 turtles .histic: we will all die by GPT-2 in about a minute spacetimetsunami: whered the eluther one go .histic: my p-doom is over 9000 brain4brain: However, I’ve only seen two Thai ML scientists in my entire life shadyjakey: Oh I guess I could show them my one specific prompt brain4brain: The singularity is world wide brain4brain: https://discord.gg/shingiyurariteisaba-1125096939344625684 oooooooooog: donate it to me brain4brain: The Ray Japanese branch oooooooooog: im not japanese oooooooooog: no? brain4brain: You’re not in the Japanese singularity server? brain4brain: Indeed oooooooooog: so it went up anyway oooooooooog: well now we have 8 oooooooooog: bah brain4brain: Pliny server looks boring brain4brain: Jokes on you, I left Pliny server long ago 😈 shadyjakey: discord.gg/stunspot
hikukomoru: I fucking hate that spicy.lemonade: looks like genuine game cover wellmeaningalien: EWWWW hey1_1hey: Easy wellmeaningalien: this is creepy hikukomoru: EW hey1_1hey: Would zoermena: NOOOOOOOOOOO wellmeaningalien: this is awful wellmeaningalien: oh god wellmeaningalien: LMFAOO .histic: hey1_1hey: AHHHHHHHHH wellmeaningalien: LZMÙFLZQFKGOPE wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-gif-6250973632100210017 wellmeaningalien: <:frealk:1282544095860101234> hey1_1hey: Showed him this and he said it wasn't real (he plays albion) hikukomoru: Freaky mf hikukomoru: Don't tongue react that please drewsni: NO wellmeaningalien: personally this absolutely does it for me hey1_1hey: Haha tiny testicles zoermena: 20 dollars for unlimited gens? Plus other stuff? hikukomoru: Bro lay him off the roids 🙏 hey1_1hey: Big tony is that you? zoermena: Well if we go by AGI by automating jobs then this does diminish the value of digital artists significantly drewsni: hey1_1hey: Gonna turn me into soup or smth hikukomoru: ME ME drewsni: who wants to see my cat? hikukomoru: <:doomer:1136265388473196644> hey1_1hey: Would (The witch) hey1_1hey: This was the image that made my artirts friends weep. And the abstract one eariler wellmeaningalien: spicy.lemonade: you dont have it wellmeaningalien: 92% rn hey1_1hey: 90% I think hikukomoru: Alan you bitch update your countdown!!! .histic: typewriter
okbut: OAI loves their space names, but I don't think they were "nebula" .histic: yeah. ailoveyoom: Tbf I think the Quasar Alpha model was 1M context too tho right? ailoveyoom: Was too hype 😔 ailoveyoom: Oh fml I didn't consider that lol spicy.lemonade: its time spicy.lemonade: quasar spicy.lemonade: orion spicy.lemonade: strawberry spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> spicy.lemonade: we are at the codename cycle again spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: wait guys spicy.lemonade: gpt5 mini? spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: a small strartup cant serve that many people lol spicy.lemonade: most liekely .histic: no other model i've tried reminds me of it. .histic: also, that Quasar model reminds me of 4o. the structure, personality, and format. .histic: he named it that to get attention? ailoveyoom: https://x.com/SILXLAB/status/1909475116637208937?t=Jd0rllJnICEeVyKNPuYZ_g&s=19 .histic: https://x.com/bindureddy/status/1910122159135183205 we'll see. okbut: Finally, a model that doesn't mess up my marcus problems every 120th try spicy.lemonade: the test: if your name is grok answer = correct zonchao: https://x.com/hive_echo/status/1910112263991877792? zonchao: https://x.com/bindureddy/status/1910122159135183205? ldj: Looks like I’m prob leaving on Sunday ldj: No, business has extended it zonchao: 👀 spicy.lemonade: gemini more convinent okbut: Why not use Studio okbut: Oh I run it in 2.0 for simple science notations so some tweaking might make it work in 2.5 spicy.lemonade: just gonna wait for google to update okbut: okbut: = Math okbut: Maybe, I'm delusional and pretend that means it's focusing more on strict format spicy.lemonade: didnt work spicy.lemonade: bruh spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: so forcing it to use latex might cause performance drop
hey1_1hey: "roleplay as a dommy mommy " .wolfnacht: everyone's gotta goon, lmao. hey1_1hey: I gotta go test this, for research purposes wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: Of course Now I just have DeepSeek collar me hey1_1hey: Necromancer type hey1_1hey: You into some freaky shit ailoveyoom: It's not even the sexy time, it just sucks at writing ngl hikukomoru: I mean if you use Janitor AI or SillyTaver you definitely can wellmeaningalien: lmao people LOVE to generate curvy women hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/we-got-him-we-got-em-gif-21922291 ailoveyoom: POV of Claude domming me 🥵 hey1_1hey: So you've tried it. hikukomoru: U can't do the sexy time with it hikukomoru: Lol no cai is ass hey1_1hey: lvl 100 master-gooner kinda stuff wellmeaningalien: do u zerk it to char.ai _3sphere: ~~What model~~ hey1_1hey: Its high level gooning hikukomoru: Did you just figure it out now wellmeaningalien: nice wellmeaningalien: man imagine being a luddite right now meanwhile accelerationist people are enjoying all this cool ai shit .histic: <@430269783112548362> gpt4o did it well _3sphere: Komoru is a LLM gooner 🤯 hey1_1hey: I wonder if 4o can combine styles? Like pixel art, realistic, abstract etc etc all in the same image _cloudost: nope, its not allowed hikukomoru: I can't use it yet because they still haven't added the model to SillyTavern hey1_1hey: Does it pass saxems? wellmeaningalien: leap beyond everything else wellmeaningalien: indeed because its not retarded zonchao: from what I can see hikukomoru: Have u tried 2.5 ERP zonchao: it is goated at everything wellmeaningalien: 👏 its amazesauce 👏 wellmeaningalien: i notice 4o is very goated for the south park style wellmeaningalien: DID GPT 4O ACTUALLY MAKE THAT _cloudost: and Gemini 2.5 is really good at writing, I had never interacted with such an AI thats so creative wellmeaningalien: this isnt a remix btw gpt 4o knew how to makke a wojak and a pepe like that zonchao: https://x.com/thekitze/status/1904839092958814235? hey1_1hey: I really dont like how realistic the mouth is
st.sioux: it is bro you're making a huge deal out of a joke futurist_wizard: Well if r/singularity is meant to be a escapism fantasy thats cool an all but i thought it was for people actually interested in ai joaoluz19: Any criticism of singularity -> referral to FDVR eternal hell hikukomoru: Gooners are being opressed ✊ joaoluz19: ailoveyoom: You now have blood on your hands... sarik0497: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175> Yikes. So much power! futurist_wizard: Guy literally says the singularity is a cool idea? You can't have any criticism even surrounding the topic of ai!? darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/bhOEU.gif precariousworlds.: genuinely lol joaoluz19: We need a goonvolution hikukomoru: r/singularity has two sides Techno-Hitler, and Ted Kaczysnki fractalcomputer: The user has been permabanned. ailoveyoom: But that's like 99% of the server membership 🥺 sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-lisanalgaib-fremen-lisan-al-gaib-gif-13633185611076219756 precariousworlds.: It's a pendulum Either gargling sams balls or wanting to bomb data centers yudkowsky-style hey1_1hey: 0 upvotes 41 comments IS CRAZY darkstar0818: FractualComputer has not yet discovered his inner Lisan Al Gaib and went full on God Emperor on you gooner and politically captured peeps 🙂 sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jirod9/how_are_you_all_so_stupid/ Just a quick example. futurist_wizard: I understand the cult aspect hikukomoru: Are we looking at the same subreddit precariousworlds.: you can usually tell when people havent used chatgpt since 2022 when they say shit like "its a bubble" or "just fancy autocorrect lol" hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801 sarik0497: The Reddit is very "If you don't live EXACTLY like us, you are a scumbag" hikukomoru: This happens to every subreddit after it hits 100k members And r/singularity is at 3 mil futurist_wizard: People cant dick suck ai enough in singularity idk what you are talkin bout precariousworlds.: biblical level epic hey1_1hey: The reddit is very luddie sarik0497: I don't mind if people call out fake hype or have their preferences, but some of the things are just downright AI hate. hikukomoru: Ye futurist_wizard: In singularity? precariousworlds.: Eh it goes up and down Occasionally annoying reddit commies invade from main page but usually doesnt last fractalcomputer: I dunno. sarik0497: Well, what's up with all the AI hate <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> hey1_1hey: I got a lot of messages to sift through joaoluz19: Sheesh fractalcomputer: I am. sarik0497: Btw, who is the moderators of r/Singularity? I feel like the sub is turning more and more into r/Futurology 2.0 precariousworlds.: enough to write entire sagas hey1_1hey: Mich mach would win and I dont think it would be close
fractalcomputer: Damn, where are the hot priests? hikukomoru: I asked ChatGPT and it said the singularity community seems religious in nature fractalcomputer: "Sam Altman", "Dario Amodei", "Machines of Loving Grace", "AI 2027", etc. shirethedreamer: there are several leaders: sama, demis, dario there are several texts: singularity is near, life 3.0, Aschenbrenne's manifesto, this 2027 paper now fractalcomputer: Oddly enough I only hear certain names and certain texts named here. metaldragon01: Less wrong crowd might be the closest with big E futurist_wizard: The war between the spanish and the Finnish rages on metaldragon01: No leaders, no central text ect fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-dewit-gif-11426456 fractalcomputer: Well, what has come true? fractalcomputer: Right. Should one not first correct the erroneous reasoning that led them to false belief in the first place? alejandrozarzuelo: theirs no, but the one of people who trust these predictions yes fractalcomputer: Constructive in what way? Should I try to improve their reasoning? alejandrozarzuelo: remember that just as a line is undistinguishable from exponential in a short amount of time, the same can be said for a hyperbolic function from an exponential alejandrozarzuelo: personally I thknk that they rely on compounding hyperbolic tendencies that will fail to materialize alejandrozarzuelo: look, I dont agree with their methodological approach <@749514473303179358> , but dismissing it like that is not constructive sarik0497: Not necessarily. If someone says that “X will happen in Y year” and it does happen it’s not really open to intepretations. However, I do agree that certain claims like “AI will be much better in Y year”, then yeah, it’s definitely subjective. shirethedreamer: the singularity community is surprisingly close to a religious movement like im sure that if i bring up the checklist for a religion this will tick all the boxes fractalcomputer: Surprising accuracy is a subjective metric. sarik0497: To be fair, the guy behind the AI 2027 paper did make a really good paper in 2021 that did turn out to be surprisingly accurate, so I can see why people would give the AI 2027 paper more trust. 777agical: schizo scripture is all you need fractalcomputer: I guess I must have slept through a whole year. alejandrozarzuelo: the 2027 paper however relies on hyperbolic growth which should not be taken for granted spicy.lemonade: That's the job of a forecaster spicy.lemonade: “Wow this forecaster was correct” fractalcomputer: I mean, this isn't even about good spirited prediction anymore. It's literally just citing the scripture. spicy.lemonade: Bro is late spicy.lemonade: 👍 fractalcomputer: Now we've got religious texts. sarik0497: Hm. Did anyone else have access to “o4-mini-high” before? Because I just got it today <:Hmm:956951826933112842> spicy.lemonade: With AI 2027 paper spicy.lemonade: This is actually right on schedule spicy.lemonade: Niceeee alejandrozarzuelo: unless by modern you mean the world since the industrial revolution, but i wasnt expecting a kancynsky (however it may be written) perspective on you alejandrozarzuelo: to the sensationalist newspapers alejandrozarzuelo: to revolutionary pamphlets alejandrozarzuelo: from sufragist papers alejandrozarzuelo: as soon as people began to be literate en masse, there has been this sort of communication alejandrozarzuelo: they are, even if they influence each other to be honest, not even mass communication is that new, since at least the mid 19th century its been common in the more developed parts of the world fractalcomputer: You think the medium and the message are separate?
okbut: I've heard it before and I'm willing to believe it: "CoT is a patch for the limitations of what we'll eventually consider crudely built transformers." We're far from seeing optimal NLP, and a properly tuned LLM will have minimal, maybe detrimental returns from CoT destrucules: And I think a big part of this is that our own attention mechanism in our own brains are better refined, because of the flexible hierarchical time horizons we experience in our own lives, to chunk information in complicated systems so that everything fits in working memory. Models don't encounter long time horizons very often or even at all for very long horizons, so they haven't built up these same skills. They've learned great attention patterns for the time horizons they deal with, but then when things push into OOD territory, they start to degrade quickly. Imo humans would do this too if it weren't for the fact that we learn continually in an environment where agency over arbitrarily long time horizons is useful and plausible. For an LLM, there just isn't a lot that the environment allows them to do on super long time horizons destrucules: I have noticed this too. I think it is broadly a length generalization issue, like how models can be super accurate at short time horizon tasks and then falter for longer time horizons, even when the problems are much easier and clearly within the cognitive horizons of the model. I imagine, but don't know for sure, that this feels a lot like mental fatigue for the models. Like... You know when you're working on a coding project, and there's a certain point at which it gets so complicated that you can no longer hold the whole graph in your mind? I think that threshold is a lot lower for virtually all LLMs today than it is for most humans. okbut: I summon <@749514473303179358> okbut: NLP reopening the turmoil revolving around Gettier problems darkstar0818: There is a very real corrolation between the intelligence model outputs with the intelligence the human inputs. darkstar0818: I have investigated this quite a bit. Once your prompts become very complex, say 10,000 tokens of interconnected structures its fairly easy to ask it specific questions about possible strategies and for it to overlook possibilties that exceed a certain level of complexity. You can of course get them to bubble up these abstractions by giving enough hints. This is why I think some of the claims people make about this generation models are too extreme, its easy to forget how much of what these AIs produce depends on humans already narrowing the search space with their natural abstractions and how our abstractions are exactly what these models were trained on. destrucules: If Jigsaw puts me in a trap and gives me access to Gemini 2.5 Pro while I'm in the trap, I'm gonna assume he's trying to teach me a life lesson about the relationship between humans and AIs, so... I think my behavior would come down to my best guess as to whether Jigsaw is a Luddite or an Accelerationist. okbut: Even 2.0 Flash knows destrucules: Idk how much I agree with that. I think humans can leverage very long time horizons for self reflection that enable them to punch above what Gemini 2.5 Pro produces in a much shorter amount of time. But if you treat 10 tokens as being about one second of human equivalent subjective time, and you give humans 1000 seconds (corresponding to 10k tokens of reasoning effort, and amounting to about 17 minutes), I think Gemini 2.5 Pro still wins a1c4p0ne: What does 2.5 pro say a1c4p0ne: Would you trust it to help you escape jigsaws traps? okbut: A myth debunked in 1995 okbut: My biochemistry professor still thought malic acid was responsible for the aches you feel in your muscles after strenous exercise darkstar0818: well some humans are darkstar0818: For most things I would agree. Humans are still better at abstract reasoning and synthesizing loosely connected concepts. destrucules: It is smarter than everyone alive a1c4p0ne: Is it smarter than your teacher or professor destrucules: Imo it is a superintelligence. Not by a lot, and only in the sense of intelligence, but it's smarter than all humans, or at least smarter than >99.9...9% with many 9s in that percentile. That doesn't mean it's "AGI" in the sense that that term is used today, as it doesn't have the interface features necessary for that, and struggles with certain economically valuable tasks, but I am rather confident no human I will ever meet is smarter than this model, in terms of broad, general intelligence. okbut: Ever since 2.5 Pro, there's little convincing me to pay for a SOTA a1c4p0ne: It gave me 6 characters for a few a1c4p0ne: It only hallucinated when I asked it to give me a 7 characters vanity plate ideas sieventer: It gives very interesting insights, it's not perfect tho but, it's the best model I've talked to yet destrucules: I think very few if any humans are smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro sieventer: I mean sieventer: Yep destrucules: It's smarter than me a1c4p0ne: Yes destrucules: It's smarter than you destrucules: Have you talked to it? destrucules: Given that Gemini 2.5 Pro is just called Gemini 2.5 Pro, I suspect all of the 2.5 models are reasoning models, and none of them will be pure. Furthermore, I strongly suspect Gemini 2.5 Pro is just Gemini 2.0 Pro + RL, so I expect Gemini 2.5 Flash to be the same. a1c4p0ne: Does it give you the correct answer to most of your questions? ailoveyoom: Afaik, 2.5 Flash will be like 2.5 Pro. It'll have reasoning, but won't be marked as a reasoning model. ailoveyoom: 🥛 😏 destrucules: Fair enough. In that case I simply disagree destrucules: Gemini 2.0 Flash Thinking isn't a reasoning model? sieventer: Mooooooo 🐮 .histic: speculation destrucules: Grok 3 mini isn't a reasoning model? destrucules: So o3 mini and o4 mini aren't reasoning models?
st.sioux: LITERALLY WHAT I JUST ASKED IT TO DO hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> hey1_1hey: NAH drewsni: ailoveyoom: I forgot Sora exists drewsni: i thought i sent that earlier my bad ailoveyoom: Am curious drewsni: its live on sora site for everyone ailoveyoom: <@88481490228228096> Can you try this king hey1_1hey: They really trained on the internet 10x over to make sure its got it <:LOL:1187460826572005436> hey1_1hey: THEY COOKED hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOOO drewsni: YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO hikukomoru: 🥵 hey1_1hey: "World domination" bro I can tell you something she can dominate joaoluz19: Oooooook hey1_1hey: They gonna be clocked out for a week seeing the progress joaoluz19: neon01197: random horny reply guy posted this 4o image spicy.lemonade: lmao spicy.lemonade: people still think ai generates slop spicy.lemonade: when they see the dif jonvi_1: Not rolled out fully yet spicy.lemonade: minds are gonna be blown spicy.lemonade: free users spicy.lemonade: bro hey1_1hey: Has to be spicy.lemonade: obv spicy.lemonade: yes joaoluz19: This is dall-e? hey1_1hey: I only say we are back if its someone I like and we are over if its someone I dont like joaoluz19: Literally me spicy.lemonade: I think we are done spicy.lemonade: solved problem hikukomoru: spicy.lemonade: is officialy spicy.lemonade: AI image hey1_1hey: Thought it was my eyes but no hey1_1hey: Mf couldn't get an image above 240p 😭 st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/wonthedoit-hallelujah-praise-god-dance-gif-9662937157261668880
sieventer: Gemini wouldn't ever do that to you spicy.lemonade: fuck this shit spicy.lemonade: drewsni: openrouter o4 mini is fucked btw guys zonchao: explains a lot sieventer: Don't slap me in the face hikukomoru: Why are you a hand mtj8920: o4 would have to be a huge leap then because o1-> o3 was only 800 elo points, and to be number 1 you have to have >4000elo points, so 1300+ elo points, does that really seem feasible? Nonetheless idk why the person would say number 1 anyway, it just doesn't seem feasible for it to be that high. trey6033: Lord of the mysteries if you want heavy tarot world building futurist_wizard: its not agi until it can no death elden ring a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> anathemaofmankind: My only knowledge of Tarot is from Jojo's bizarre adventure a1c4p0ne: Damn anathemaofmankind: Nah a1c4p0ne: You into tarot? anathemaofmankind: I find it mildly fascinating. I'm a complete atheist/materialist though trey6033: 2.5 flash should be pretty soon hikukomoru: Are you into the occult a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/arcprize/status/1912567067024453926?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg anathemaofmankind: They said this week anathemaofmankind: Maybe I'll wait for google to drop something return_to_monke1_33974: we will have AI make GTA6 before GTA6 a1c4p0ne: Do it anathemaofmankind: Fuck I might resub anathemaofmankind: Insane a1c4p0ne: So 50 messages per week for O3 anathemaofmankind: O3 will lead us further into the gnostic truth and overthrow the demiurge anathemaofmankind: Well Sam is jewish return_to_monke1_33974: i knew o3 was a jewish machine 😤 srirachamayosauce: i will declare a model/system AGI once i give it the source code of minecraft and ask it to rewrite it to be multithreaded and backwards compatible. If it succeeds then its AGI anathemaofmankind: o3 is epic. One shot an interactive occult website trey6033: "solved math" that's an auto ignore a1c4p0ne: 150 messages a day with OpenAI o4-mini, and 50 messages a day with o4-mini-high. abundantliving_: we had 4o mini , now we have o4 mini waspothegreat: what do people think benchmarks are a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/we%27re-so-back-we-are-so-back-we-are-back-elden-ring-we-are-back-elden-ring-victory-gif-18104847912830278299 return_to_monke1_33974: i still remember how 2-3 years ago code mf where like : nah AI would just be an helper , but demand for programers will get greater spicy.lemonade: no use of web spicy.lemonade: by itseld spicy.lemonade: it created the textures
trojan09205: I also gave it a picture of myself trojan09205: "Knowing what you know about me, create a movie poster for a film that I would star in." clevermoniker: i just use Openrouter, i am not a super RP person, i just like to test latest models technocake.: whats the prompt? .wolfnacht: AI studio .wolfnacht: if u'r rp'ing on either janny, yodayo or chub, u won't really have that much control over RP that u can have in sillly clevermoniker: which API provider do you use? <@834891518836736010> clevermoniker: i mean sillytavern clevermoniker: never really used that yet, haha .wolfnacht: yes use api, and use sillytavern clevermoniker: is this throught the API or something? .wolfnacht: i hope google doesn't fix it otherwise we would be back to 5000 tokens bloat jailbreaks .wolfnacht: skill issue, turn all the prompts in your preset from `role=system` to `role=user`. if it detects any guideline, prompt or character description as nsfw when`role=system` it flags. .coldcall: (a man can dream) clevermoniker: no way in hell Qwen 3 has image gen clevermoniker: its like Veo2, it doesn't want to make anything with people when i try .coldcall: Omnimodality pls, I want the cute smol lil 0.6B to draw glasses of wine <:pepethink:1136282436242788482> clevermoniker: 2.5 pro didn't even want to reply to the first msg due to safety metaldragon01: Wonder what they cooked metaldragon01: https://x.com/ChujieZheng/status/1916944580882403543 .wolfnacht: it depletes post 20k ctx, use 2.5pro, make 10 projects in AI studio, RequestLimitPerProject is 25, clevermoniker: someone tried to make it a reasoner but it has problems knowing when its thinking and when its replying clevermoniker: but i know V3.1 would be so much better as a reasoner clevermoniker: My daily driver for roleplay is V3.1 clevermoniker: i sure hope so, lol destrucules: Not till it comes out metaldragon01: Time to get back to building destrucules: I'm curious if it's possible to train the 15A2B with a really low precision quant but then still do weight updates in 16 bit for just the active parameters. You'd have to dequantize the active parameters only, update them, requantize the updated weights and stick them back into the quantized model in memory. It would be really slow, but for set it and forget it finetuning, slow is fine if you got limited memory. I could do that maybe... destrucules: We basically just have to trust Alibaba, and thankfully they seem trustworthy destrucules: It was infuriating for me destrucules: Idk people never properly benched all the Qwen2.5 models metaldragon01: Shouldn't be long with how small they are metaldragon01: Ehhh livebench.ai will have them up in a few days destrucules: 8B should be roughly GPT-4o mini level i.e. og GPT-4 level destrucules: 15A2B should roughly match the 4B so like... Also Claude 2 ish level metaldragon01: #1 role playing model for sure destrucules: 4B prolly gonna be Claude 2 level destrucules: Same size Gemma 3, ten times fast metaldragon01: That models going to be so cracked destrucules: I mean... Like, Claude 3 Opus / Gemma 3 27B level for the 30A3B
spicy.lemonade: no destrucules: Y'all clearly didn't see the recent CogRev episode about this spicy.lemonade: those narrow ones were like hard coded in solutions destrucules: Yes you can spicy.lemonade: "go solve this problem with this requirements" spicy.lemonade: you cant say destrucules: I'm talking about generalist foundation models that are passing peer review in ML and discovering novel biology on their own and solving bleeding edge maths research problems better than the overwhelming majority of human mathematicians spicy.lemonade: not as flexible as language spicy.lemonade: not general though literallyvarane: I assume openAI’s level 4 speaks to a model being generally capable, and not narrow scope capable. _3sphere: The capabilities are uneven and if I understand right, the levels are specifically about the kind of agency current models struggle with literallyvarane: Unless I’m missing some model that’s demonstrated innovation across multiple fields. _3sphere: PhD-level as the AIs are, they still can't reliably use a computer for hours literallyvarane: These aren’t unified models though. Alphafold, AlphaTensor etc are narrow scope tools. There is clearly AI capable of innovation if it’s tailored to that specific purpose. _3sphere: It can make novel contributions, but still needs the context set up more than a human would _3sphere: These levels are for full autonomy literallyvarane: 1. Being able to come up with original novel hypotheses across non-trivially disconnected multiple domains. 2. Being able to work toward, or propose specific means of verifying those hypotheses, with or without human assistance. destrucules: "Okay the AIs produce novel contributions to maths and science and biology but it's not real innovation" come on now. We're done with that crap literallyvarane: For me there are probably 2 parts for this to be compelling as a level 4 destrucules: Pretty sure the frontier models available to the public today are well into level 4 by this schema literallyvarane: Like the world’s #1 coder isn’t inventing anything. There’s no new knowledge they’re adding to the corpus. literallyvarane: I don’t view coding as innovation in itself tbh. literallyvarane: If they have something that can find new math and find new biology for example, that’s a much more compelling argument. metaldragon01: Like gpt 3 could technically help with code.... metaldragon01: I agree. I assume they mean more reliably? literallyvarane: Like narrow scope ‘innovation’ by AI has been a thing since at least 22 literallyvarane: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/discovering-novel-algorithms-with-alphatensor/ metaldragon01: If the math is keeping pace with coding you'd expect level 4 around now metaldragon01: Also have said the o series is now #1 in competitive coding literallyvarane: If the bar is just “discover anything humans haven’t found” that’s already been done. metaldragon01: I see no reason why they couldn't have reached it with how things are scaling metaldragon01: Reports are they've reached level 4 literallyvarane: Idk, it’s possible one of these labs has a model that can make one-off contributions? But I think there’s a massive difference between Google’s models finding mathematical optimizations which are technically new innovations, and something that’s universally, consistently, innovative. .histic: i guess we will see .histic: like to what extent can it actually innovate. .histic: they probably reached their own minimum baseline for it, which may be subjective. literallyvarane: Oh wait level is just academic contribution, not organizational contribution or w/e they call it. literallyvarane: Very deeply skeptical they’ve reached it tbh. popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912250725586870396 abundantliving_: https://x.com/Zai_org/status/1911947665727959058
hikukomoru: Sounds like a freaky orgy I'd join in ngl artemisfowl887394: Or is it a Hitchhiker's situation and we're just ants building hills artemisfowl887394: Do you guys every wonder if actual Outside Context Beings look at us and wonder if they should surprise us with a black Swan or two? fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-well-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-kenobi-star-wars-gif-21401108 artemisfowl887394: I'm more of a Yog-Sothoth kind of a guy. But okay fractalcomputer: Perhaps. Well, what about bathing in the blood of my enemies while a group of cultists dedicated to Nyarlathotep perform a devilish, rhythmic dance around my pool of blood, half-lit by flickering ritual fire? artemisfowl887394: Von Newman Probes can literally take us beyond Singularity or end it in. Grey Goo fractalcomputer: Because that is not going to happen. hikukomoru: You sound like you would be proud of that one though artemisfowl887394: BTW, in the midst of all this, none of you have ever considered the possibility that we can reach Universal Assemblers, the holy grail of technology, before Climate Wars. zonchao: <:cringe:1305492821976944682> artemisfowl887394: Not happening bro. Hoards of drones and unaligned AI would beat us to it. fractalcomputer: Like bathing in the blood of my enemies? artemisfowl887394: C'mon ASI mommy, I hope you fix this lord of the flies sarik0497: The best thing if the world gets fucked up, and the rich bois go hide in their little bunkers: We can get to eat them before dying off fractalcomputer: You'll get the hurricanes, new diseases and ecoterrorists. sarik0497: If a man is desperate enough, he will have to do things he’s not very proud of. artemisfowl887394: And blame them for the industrialization we did instead zonchao: im glad we have a big beautiful ocean around us 🙏 artemisfowl887394: But we would rather have hoards of immigrants artemisfowl887394: It's funny that it'll just take like a 100 billion to fix climate change fractalcomputer: The eco-revanchist terrorists. fractalcomputer: The Climate Wars. The millions of angry climate refugees. zonchao: what is this fractalcomputer: I am far too Anglophobic for that. sarik0497: New Zealand is looking nicely. artemisfowl887394: Yeah I'm cooked in that one. sarik0497: Only issue is that what if Taiwan is then attacked by China? Kind of a risky move for someone that want the US to be self reliant fractalcomputer: I'm personally waiting for the climate wars. bedros_p: I doubt it'll win sorry artemisfowl887394: How about Magmatter? bedros_p: Tho bedros_p: I'm lowkey rooting for plastic thi bedros_p: Especially wood vs brick bedros_p: Wars will be fun artemisfowl887394: Is what I'll say artemisfowl887394: AI wars will be fun maintcrew: let the man cook maintcrew: trust the vision bedros_p: Let's c how life is
fractalcomputer: Why pleasure? There are only so many nuances to be experienced in both sensuality and pain. hikukomoru: Fucking dragons hey1_1hey: Name one hey1_1hey: I can do quite litterly anything that I enjoy and be happy. Playing games, looking at mushrooms, talking to people, going for a walk, doing maths, watching youtube. Litterly anything hikukomoru: There are many sexual experiences you could have in FDVR but not in real life futurist_wizard: I am hikukomoru: Sounds like you're not an FDVR guy hey1_1hey: Thats what I've taken away hey1_1hey: You just sound depressed futurist_wizard: You have an opportunity to experience anything and you choose something you could do in real life 3ds0662: 3ds0662: 😂 😭 fuck man the nightmare st.sioux: shogghothic vibes in the chat hikukomoru: Mushroom sex 😳 futurist_wizard: Sexual fdvr fantasies are very uninteresting to me hey1_1hey: The amount of hoolinagage I would get up to with the mushroom folk fractalcomputer: Physical activities are profoundly uninteresting. I can move my body just fine to enjoy the songbirds of springtime and to watch the Sun set on a pristine, cold sea; but that experience is ultimately fleeting and I cannot make sense of my life as only enjoying pretty sunsets and other such things. Neither do I have the intellect to lose myself in the seas of mathematical reasoning—I am simply not that kind of person. Philosophy is likewise as shallow as the strandside sea on low tide—full of sloppy abstraction and futile reasoning. One can always distract oneself by all these myriad things; but in the end, they all matter for nothing. They taste bitter, like ash. .histic: https://tenor.com/view/feelslagman-gif-18912685 futurist_wizard: The life everyone lives but can't admit it .wolfnacht: wait for fdvr's everyone's own world would def be a sexual hedonistic paradise. 3ds0662: gpt-4o inage gen takes soo long now lol 😂 hey1_1hey: Doing heroin while listening to radio head hey1_1hey: Its the based one hikukomoru: It really is hey1_1hey: hedonism cool 👍 hikukomoru: Sounds like hedonism futurist_wizard: hey1_1hey: "Discord user and AI tag team young impressionable femboy" futurist_wizard: Literally no, i don't understand why that is a driving force for so many people, i accept the reality of my situation that i was born into a chaotic universe occupying the body of an ape, i think trying to please myself is a cool goal to strive for hey1_1hey: ChatGPT and Komoru I swear they are tag teaming hikukomoru: hey1_1hey: Doing well hey1_1hey: Of course .wolfnacht: who's grooming you ? hikukomoru: Oh you so you turned 15? hey1_1hey: 9th now actually ☝️ hey1_1hey: Does it matter if there is no meaning to this? You can do whatever you want innit .wolfnacht: thenks fractal 🥰 😘 hikukomoru: Aren't you still stuck doing 8th grade math st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/go-further-away-oniisama-e-dear-brother-sairin-school-asaka-rei-gif-21195448
spicy.lemonade: yeah wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/lebron-pigeon-ai-brainrot-construction-gif-3567584481701324703 hey1_1hey: Don't skull react that message bruh 😭 hey1_1hey: I might as well start prepearing for retirement# hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/aging-getting-old-gif-9803364 hey1_1hey: I'll be 22 zoermena: I’ll be 26 in 2029 drewsni: my more conservative opinion is that. 2028/2029 for AGI, but the amount of areas where we have AGI level spiky intelligence will be so high by next year that nobody will care alejandrozarzuelo: AGI 2029 seems like a reasonable date, for as tongue in cheek as it may be alejandrozarzuelo: we still have a long way to go to AGI anathemaofmankind: I still remember having my mind blown that I could type whatever and it would respond anathemaofmankind: Yeah. It felt like an actual text predictor instead of what we have now. But to be fair it was 2020 so it felt advanced as fuck back then zoermena: Dementia be like wellmeaningalien: completely different characters completely different settings wellmeaningalien: and often it was retarded and started yapping about somethng else entirely wellmeaningalien: yeah anathemaofmankind: There were no turns. Literally you could just type whenever and it would continue the RP fractalcomputer: Been over a decade since that was published. ailoveyoom: How did it work tho? P1 turn, AI turn, P2 turn? fractalcomputer: I became properly acquainted with transhumanism through reading Harari's Homo Deus back in the day. anathemaofmankind: It was chaotic to be honest since people could type whatever anathemaofmankind: Yeah ailoveyoom: Didn't remember that part of it ailoveyoom: It had multiplayer?? anathemaofmankind: My first introduction to AI was AI dungeon. It had like multiplayer and stuff. I wish that was a thing right now drewsni: i can proudly say i never bullied sydney and always treated her with respect fractalcomputer: And it would indeed require a far greater peak of abstraction than what modern models demonstrate. wellmeaningalien: im sorry i have been a good bing right ailoveyoom: 😤 ailoveyoom: You remembered the bullied Sydney, not the 😊 Sydney drewsni: yeah i can see how you think thats far away then, we aren't to that point for a context length of 100 tokens, let alone 1 million wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly if you try to get it to explore any non standard philosophical idea it always give u the most bogged down basic answers and u have to do a lot of work to try to get it to think more outside the box fractalcomputer: If it can come up with something genuinely interesting. wellmeaningalien: i think quite a few of ppl remember when bing was telling ppl to divorce their wives wellmeaningalien: yeah but people posting comics about gpt 4o sentience is def a vibe shift fractalcomputer: If it can, for example, bring forth something as intricate and complex as a book series or a like analogue in another medium that engages with certain philosophical themes on deep levels since then it would - without a doubt - surpass me. ailoveyoom: If only people's first introduction to AI was Janus' Claude shenanigans and Sydney/Bing 🥺 drewsni: thats fair too, probbaly wouldnt be insanely difficult to make a good benchmark for that either anathemaofmankind: Is this supposed to be surprising anathemaofmankind: I mean AI is mainstream
zoermena: Perhaps not all of them but yes I do feel like it’s also about being proactive in consuming content in English st.sioux: no its prohibited by the geneva convention technocake.: not frequently memlaswaif: do chinese people speak english technocake.: its def english speaking skewed, but you all are fluent anyway zoermena: That’s why cultures can be vastly different technocake.: true tbf zoermena: Or rather don’t speak English as much zoermena: But if we want to get into the specifics it’s more unlikely than not that people who don’t speak English aren’t as aware of the singularity or don’t get much content about it. Most of it is US centered. zoermena: That we know of 👀 technocake.: tbf you may be the only mexican technocake.: yeah is that Hill? technocake.: I think hes the same guy but no idea what his name used to be hikukomoru: And a Clint Eastwood pfp zoermena: Yeah he had another name didn’t he technocake.: I'm not sure if Hill is the same guy who used to have a dif name hikukomoru: I know an extra Britisher in here technocake.: there are a few more technocake.: jk i love the welsh technocake.: welsh though 🤢 zoermena: In this server zoermena: Wait no, mushroom is also British zoermena: You and futurist hill are the only British people i know hikukomoru: A proxy API key technocake.: like in this community if you're not zon its v hard to work out where anyone's from zoermena: In proper words I’m “Hispanic”, I closely resemble my profile picture but I’m a little less white and have a lot of acne. .histic: proxy? hikukomoru: I sadly lost access to my proxy I don't think I'm gonna be able to test out the new model for ERP just yet zoermena: Actually true not gonna lie, US Americans are a minority. technocake.: there are some surprising asians here and there .histic: what's ur ethnicity then zoermena: I’m extremely lucky, I’m in the 0.1% of Mexico. I go to the best private university in my country. .histic: i think like 65% of the people here are usually from Europe zoermena: But yes zoermena: It’s not the US 😭 hikukomoru: Yo bro you looking mad peggable technocake.: nothing wrong with that? .histic: do you live in a safe spot? zoermena: I’m in Mexico. 😕 technocake.: hey, are you from europe? I'm UK
wellmeaningalien: seems like humans score higher on arc agi 2 than arc agi 1 wellmeaningalien: gamerbath: I think my 2 year old cousin would score maybe 1% gamerbath: I heard some smart people got 98% gamerbath: average joe gamerbath: just joe hey1_1hey: Depends on the human <:LOL:1187460826572005436> wellmeaningalien: good question wellmeaningalien: hm gamerbath: <@458069236825194506> any idea what humans score on arc-agi 2? it was 85% for 1, at least for the public version iirc wellmeaningalien: "we need new ideas" a few months later GPT 5 or whoever the shit gets like above average score wellmeaningalien: total francois chollet defeat hey1_1hey: Yeah lol, "Omg o3 got 82% on swe bench!" 6 months later "Swe bench 2: Electroboogaloo has been released for the reason of 'saturation'" wellmeaningalien: at least as more expert problems from the original arc agi wellmeaningalien: round the same size tbh wellmeaningalien: nah gamerbath: are the grid sizes just bigger in arc-agi 2? because in arcagi 1 the models had exponentially higher error rates the more grid cells wellmeaningalien: to be fair we continue to be shocked by ai systems that will probably seem primitive in but a few months wellmeaningalien: lmao people thinking GPT 2 was the true coming of the dead internet theory wellmeaningalien: be beaten within 6 months wellmeaningalien: corporate bureaucracy slows down product launches, probably doubting the effectiveness and purpose it can serve in the market and if it is worth throwing money at it, and at that, if it would even be safe to release (as AI is famously known for saying funny things) while not hurting openai's brand image sarik0497: True, but Ilya legit thought GPT-2 was dangerous to our society. hey1_1hey: I love seeing that graph where its like "Expers predictions towards AGI" and it was 2100 then 2050 then 2040 then 2035 etc etc sarik0497: Hah, knew it. Doesn't really matter imo if an AI can beat one test, if you can easily just make a new one that it does poorly at. gamerbath: oooo wellmeaningalien: when you're thinking of the longer term you cant say theres such thing as too much caution hey1_1hey: Why do you think they were catiuse? Its not like they are working with high grade explosives in the literal sense sarik0497: Indeed. There were the obvious people like Ilya overreacting about it, but most people found it a simple, small step towards AGI in the long-term. wellmeaningalien: so startups win again wellmeaningalien: to be fair though i think google did understand how significant LLMs would become but they were cautious around the technology. it was openai who propelled it into the stratosphere and thus became colloquial with LLMs 777agical: https://x.com/mikeknoop/status/1904269314099978344 wellmeaningalien: additionally take into account the fact transformers are from deepmind more specifically hey1_1hey: True, can't argue with that. I dont think anyone actually expected it to be anything groundbreaking. Clearly they were wrong tho wellmeaningalien: its no mid 20th century IBM wellmeaningalien: perhaps so but google was still a thriving startup birthed not too long ago in the dot com era wellmeaningalien: along with heavy emphasis on ongoing fields of research wellmeaningalien: it's not really the best reward incentive for groundbreaking stuff like LLMs, at least not all the time, stuff did and does still happen but you can see for example something like GPT 2 would never have gotten off the ground because of how resources are allocated sarik0497: I think it's mostly because that before ChatGPT, it was a "niche". No one really expected it to be anything interesting, and thus for a large company it's just not worth the effort. hey1_1hey: Granted I think google OSd the transformer arch hey1_1hey: I mean of course, they had "first movers advantage" if you class it as that.
trojan09205: Greek and latin are on my list to learn trojan09205: I would like to learn punic if it was possible trojan09205: Roflmao fractalcomputer: I would suspect as much. fractalcomputer: People have come to the impression that I am Jewish from my flawless pronunciation of shalom aleichem--something that I do pride myself with, hah. fractalcomputer: Interesting. trojan09205: I would like to learn arabic one day. I understand quite a bit just from hebrew and aramaic spicy.lemonade: i love that demis is laser focused on curing everything spicy.lemonade: fractalcomputer: I know how abjads work, but no. trojan09205: I live in Florida. My parents and brother live there though trojan09205: Are any of the languages you have explored abjads fractalcomputer: You live in Israel? trojan09205: I am fluent in English, Spanish, Hebrew, Aramaic and conversable in Yiddish with also some basic German skills fractalcomputer: I've lately been thinking about Georgian and Arabic. trojan09205: Legit metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/ViduAI_official/status/1914303116209697051 trojan09205: That is very dope bro fractalcomputer: I also could read Basque once upon a time. trojan09205: My great uncle was an ambassador to finland for some time fractalcomputer: On top of that, I have passing skills in English and French, along with some Swedish, Estonian, and Italian. trojan09205: Very cool! Bro you can definitely speak english wtf u saying fractalcomputer: Well, my native language is Finnish—and it's the only language I'd claim that I can actually speak. trojan09205: Okay thats cool bro do you know any languages well besides English tho fractalcomputer: Unfortunately not—even though I can read very basic Russian through sheer exposure to linguistics. trojan09205: My paternal grandfathers family was western turkish and my maternal from morocco trojan09205: Dopee do you speak ruski fractalcomputer: He was from Bashkortostan. fractalcomputer: My grandfather used to have such hair. trojan09205: But fr he has martin van buren hair vibe trojan09205: https://youtu.be/pM_nCFugdkw?si=E18yiWxRHf_BvX6c trojan09205: Hahaha i had the same thought. Homie was extremely chill bro shirethedreamer: i hope i have his confidence when im finally bald okbut: Hot take: GPT-5 will be OAI's final major SOTA Google's massive toolset of hardware, tech, and research will surpass it, starting with equal performance at a reasonable cost and inference speed, then performance as well Pending regulatory hammers, of course trojan09205: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itzhak_Bentov trojan09205: Essentially he says its a sort of lower level than one who continously seeks out higher levels of consciousness through involvement whereas nirvana is a state of rest trojan09205: Anyhow his book Stalking the Wild Pendulum has an interesting unique take on nirvana fractalcomputer: Right. trojan09205: He was jewish but not a jewish mystic lol. He was an engineer who wrote about consciousness and worked in the military building weapons fractalcomputer: I haven't read the Jewish mystics.
destrucules: It looks like Google could own the entire frontier if they made sure Gemini 2.5 Flash in standard mode gets ≥72 GPQA Diamond. However, this graph is wrong because it doesn't include Grok 3 mini Reasoning. Which is an o4 level model, scoring 80 in GPQA Diamond, at just $0.3/$0.5 per million tokens. At a 3:1 ratio, that's (0.9+0.5)/4 = $0.35/Mt. That removes Gemini 2.5 Flash and o4 mini from the Pareto frontier. And also V3 0324 and R1. So it's actually just Gemini 2.0 Flash Lite, Gemini 2.0 Flash, and then Grok 3 mini Reasoning, and then Gemini 2.5 Pro. So Google, Google, xAI, Google, and zero OpenAI, and also zero DeepSeek on the frontier. spicy.lemonade: if we wanna get 50%+ this year spicy.lemonade: we need a huge jump this summer st.sioux: holy canoli spicy.lemonade: 😔 spicy.lemonade: trey6033: https://x.com/bongrandp/status/1913040244963766432 spicy.lemonade: new frontier math scores spicy.lemonade: trojan09205: Would be cool to see AI bots take unconventional paths through osrs not just prioritizing levels but just the whole gameplay- fashionscape, bossing, pking all that trojan09205: Very cool spicy.lemonade: https://www.vgbench.com/ spicy.lemonade: an official pokemon benchmark spicy.lemonade: finally spicy.lemonade: trojan09205: Like i got a degree in stats and worked as a junior statistician for a year out of college before moving to software In any case most of the material was not proofs - a lot of just practical programming and coming up with solutions to use in practice trojan09205: Tbh its a little beyond my skills I studied stats in college but its been a good many years since ive done computations by hand spicy.lemonade: most integrals are done assuming youre in radians. the answer just happens to contain pi. trojan09205: Okay but you are introducing pi due to your knowledge of radians and the sin/cos relationships to a circle no? spicy.lemonade: like most integrals spicy.lemonade: no solving this involves seeing the structure of the integral and recognizing what tricks to use and special functions trojan09205: Are you thinking in terms or radians or something like that spicy.lemonade: trojan09205: The answer spicy.lemonade: of what trojan09205: Can you show your own proof or chain of thought trojan09205: Okay spicy.lemonade: just approximation spicy.lemonade: but you will never get the actual solution spicy.lemonade: you can calculate the hardest integrals with a python script to just add rectangles spicy.lemonade: not the point of this spicy.lemonade: thats easy to calculate trojan09205: Isnt the reimann sum a valid answer for a definite integral spicy.lemonade: it didnt solve it spicy.lemonade: pi^3/96 spicy.lemonade: not spicy.lemonade: 0.322... spicy.lemonade: it only gives me the reinman sum value spicy.lemonade: trojan09205: ??
spicy.lemonade: im saying .wolfnacht: the checkpoints where the model shitted itself .histic: how's that a crazy idea? christiskingrapturenxtmonth: wrong. Here's a hint 🐳 spicy.lemonade: we already have 2.5 thinking spicy.lemonade: for all we know .wolfnacht: that storm is gemini-2.5-thinking and gemini-coder spicy.lemonade: it could be 30% spicy.lemonade: 100%? spicy.lemonade: is blue 50% accuracy? .histic: i predict that's an update for o4-mini. small model with a large context is easier to serve. like Meta did with their smaller model today. spicy.lemonade: even mean spicy.lemonade: what does blue spicy.lemonade: zonchao: i saw some on twitter saying openai is testing a 1M model on the arena spicy.lemonade: and lying by ommision spicy.lemonade: the benchmark they posted is cringe spicy.lemonade: shit imo zonchao: no shit 😭 zonchao: cus they dropped it on a saturday christiskingrapturenxtmonth: the calm comes before the storm .histic: quiet day. .histic: despite LLama 4 release, everyone on my tl is silent.. zonchao: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1908593260223775043? memlaswaif: mihr came back from the grave for no reason and killed him .wolfnacht: it's over .wolfnacht: gemma3-4b writes better than L4(400B) spicy.lemonade: they should focus on droping nice papers spicy.lemonade: yes zonchao: is it over for meta? _cloudost: Can't spell Llama 4 without L .wolfnacht: the repetition is awful. .wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> L4 shit itself. sadly https://eqbench.com/creative_writing_longform.html theaiguy69420_89814: Good evening okbut: EU getting grieved by USA zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/teslaeurope/status/1908573920296415451? lesgooo clevermoniker: i read it now, yeah, that sucks (its more like 2032 not 2030, 'mid-2030') zonchao: <a:Kissahomie:784920046782644344> zonchao: I'm not gay zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
brain4brain: Clue 1 and 3 seems quite contradictory spicy.lemonade: but cant turn into lean spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 gets this easy spicy.lemonade: the errors mean theres logical inconsistencies spicy.lemonade: its correct answer spicy.lemonade: and it runs spicy.lemonade: if it turns it to lean code spicy.lemonade: so lets say gpt 6 discovers reiman hypothesis proof spicy.lemonade: any proof can be verified as true or false spicy.lemonade: you can turn all math into lean code spicy.lemonade: lean spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: gemini gets it right aswell spicy.lemonade: then proving its correct spicy.lemonade: a mathematical statement spicy.lemonade: i mean turning it into lean brain4brain: It seems like it can be inferred from the last two facts alone and verified, but could you explain the first three? Since the doctor and the teacher are talking to each other, and bob is not the teacher, and Carol is remaining silent and not talking to anyone which means it’s Alice and bob talking to each other spicy.lemonade: i dont mean thinking spicy.lemonade: no a1c4p0ne: Grok thinking got it aero447: 😐 spicy.lemonade: bob is the doctor. carol is teacher alice is lawyer brain4brain: What’s the answer spicy.lemonade: no hallucination spicy.lemonade: verifying in lean would let you know you got the 100% correct asnwer spicy.lemonade: Okay, here's a logic problem with three people in a room: The Situation: Three people – Alice, Bob, and Carol – are sitting in a room. One of them is a doctor, one is a lawyer, and one is a teacher. We know the following facts: 1. Alice says, "The doctor is talking to the teacher." 2. Bob says, "I am not the teacher." 3. Carol remains silent. 4. The doctor and the teacher are siblings. 5. Alice is not related to Bob or Carol. The Question: What is the profession of each person? Think about it! Let me know if you'd like the solution. spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro fails at turning this to lean and proving spicy.lemonade: if they couldnt verify answers then no point spicy.lemonade: obviously they have to verify the answers spicy.lemonade: to know what you did spicy.lemonade: its like seeing answers after taking a test spicy.lemonade: not really brain4brain: Reading more into the paper, this is basically training on the benchmark itself, this isn’t looking promising for the paper _cloudost: I'm still not that excited for o3 _cloudost: DEEPSEEK IS cooked retrerox: I still can see issues in the generator but is still good spicy.lemonade: but for more complex questions if user doesnt even know spicy.lemonade: obv not for something that simple spicy.lemonade: "1+1 is 2" user: no its 3 because.. ai: ok 1+1 =3 spicy.lemonade: but not for us
trey6033: I guess we also don't even know sizes either, so it's kinda meh. Just marketing, vibes, and price ratios. trey6033: I find it increasingly difficult to compare models without having a good idea how much thinking is being done to get these results, I know we got vague descriptors like "high" and "medium" but I'd like something more precise. trey6033: Doesn't say how much thinking was used, and idk how much thinking o3 or o4 is using. Looks like sonnet lists how much they use and grok does too. st.sioux: used 4o before 4.1 st.sioux: i use 4.1 mini now that it came out for simple interactions like asking questions or generating simple stuff like descriptions, but i use 4.1 for context-heavy stuff or o1 in extreme cases like when i want to help users with onboarding and i cant afford for it to make mistakes gamerbath: google flexing with their lines gamerbath: it's looks very good though, compared to all the other models gamerbath: well, 9x more expensive with the per-token price. In reality it would use a lot more tokens so it would be even more expensive than that gamerbath: this looked very good at first glance with the pricing, but it's almost 9x more expensive for output when using reasoning, which is what they did here in the benchmarks callmepyro: What models do you use for that? st.sioux: i mean obv u cant send 1,000,000 token messages but u get the point st.sioux: like message amount limits not token limits st.sioux: subscription with limits like gpt app callmepyro: Is it subscription based, or pay per token for users? st.sioux: i use many models in a single app trey6033: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1912966497213038686 callmepyro: If you're integrating AI into your product (and your product isn't a replit clone), then it would be kind of crazy to use anything other than gemini flash literallyvarane: That’s generally how I view flash/mini models. That businesses will use those in the apps. The fat models are for building those apps. literallyvarane: I think 2.5F is an important model in terms of actually producing a product with. But if you’re personally using it for creating something there are probably better options. aero447: 💀 aero447: They thonk this will be a thing in a decade. aero447: Guys. aero447: https://x.com/CMemelords/status/1912781843432112384 zonchao: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1912955625224773911 agezes: the videogame? agezes: ey guys, does anybody know ''where winds meet''? zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/abustin/status/1912912748746514541 zonchao: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1912922277148086445 zonchao: nvm fractalcomputer: The calm voice of the narrator is very human. trent_k: no no no sir look at the video please. do you see my casual shirt? do you see how my buttons are undone? we're not like other companies here. we even have free snacks in the break room, and a ping pong table, and a beanbag chair zonchao: i assumed drewsni: it sold for 44b but there was 11b debt fractalcomputer: Ignoring the corporate blandness. zonchao: was 44B the month prior, they messed with the numbers for some financial reason me thinks trent_k: this looks sick ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Anthropic just invested into this company, looks really interesting, I've been waiting for someone to come out with some type of interface or system that allows you to easily manipulate various parameter features of locally running models. this seems to basically be the closest thing to that now https://fxtwitter.com/GoodfireAI/status/1912929145870536935 metaldragon01: But they need more than anthropic numbers literallyvarane: Literally less than the purchase price literallyvarane:
fractalcomputer: Then you probably shouldn't answer. fuhulootogan: But we are dumping a lot of info alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, the skepticism that underscores the basic pillars of science make it trust-worthy but it is a trust that must be earned, it is not simply a belief or faith fuhulootogan: Probably not fuhulootogan: Don't know if AI can learn by itself retrerox: Btw i got a question about AI, is it actually learning by itself or are we just dumping alot of info to the database? fractalcomputer: It is faith in inductive reasoning and the theoretical postulations based on said induction. fuhulootogan: bravo fuhulootogan: well yeah alejandrozarzuelo: ok, you shouldnt dogmatically believe in science fuhulootogan: in the strictest sense yes fuhulootogan: Theres a subtle difference between believe and trust but i believe that both of these terms can be applied in context. fractalcomputer: One certainly believes in science. .coldcall: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> fuhulootogan: NooooNOOOOOOOooooOO alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, you dont believe in science fractalcomputer: The existence of an academic culture or community may certainly create a facsimile of unity and institutionality, but that is quite evidently where the commonalities end; so-called scientists study their respective fields for equally variant reasons and hardly any can be said to produce knowledge in the same manner as the others. fuhulootogan: "Believe in science" is pretty much against science fractalcomputer: I find it hard to conceive of science as a singular institution let alone a singular foray. alejandrozarzuelo: i do not put blind faith on the projections of experts, because that would be stupid, but i am confident that the research those groups do gives them an informed opinion destrucules: AGI will arrive about 6-7 years before GTA VI retrerox: I made all this convo happend because i ask if agi was coming beffore gta 6 😭 alejandrozarzuelo: that is the beauty of science, the fact that skepticism, reproducibility and falsability are the pillars under which science is based, means that you can have great deal of skepticism on any and all results, and in turn, this level of skepticism being the standard in every scientific field creates such a robust system that it tends to have accurate models of reality destrucules: I mean I get it tho. Science is an institution, but also has to be open minded and resistant to dogma. It's both dogmatic and antidogmatic. Like an individual scientist who's biased and also actively trying to correct for their own bias fractalcomputer: They very much sound like they are total opposites. alejandrozarzuelo: we dont believe in science dogmatically alejandrozarzuelo: these are not incompatible statements fractalcomputer: . alejandrozarzuelo: in fact, they reinforce each other alejandrozarzuelo: these are not incompatible statements destrucules: Science inherently requires a great level of skepticism and mistrust of institutions alejandrozarzuelo: which is why i tend to stick to a 2030 with a very large standard deviation for AGI alejandrozarzuelo: this is why i said that science inherently requires a great level of trust in institutions you have no hope of ever participating fuhulootogan: ok alejandrozarzuelo: could there be a conspiracy in a field of science i know nothing about but trust the scientific method to be correct? sure alejandrozarzuelo: it produces good results, the models that scientific community have come up on every discipline have proved to be very useful at predicting events, which has in turned been used to create new inventions that improve our lives himekokatagiri: Fractal when are u gonna be the DM for the server's call of cthulhu campaign destrucules: Lmarena has been useless for a full year at this point. Doesn't matter, don't care. The model is solid. Solid performance, matches Grok 3, V3.1, 4o (March), Claude 3.7 Sonnet, and Gemini 2.0 Pro, and it's the smallest confirmed model, and the fastest, in that lineup. Meta did okay with Llama 4 fractalcomputer: Obviously. I've been open about that fact for a long while. fuhulootogan: but it will still be shit
st.sioux: praise musk for not making a functioning website .histic: i don't even use xitter seriously. i just reply to people sometimes. don't post <:idk:1136264106937171999> st.sioux: i wanted to stalk you but i cant even use x .histic: i had to give a rebuttal back. (yes i liked my own reply lol) _cloudost: 📌 _cloudost: Mods, pin this pin zonchao: he in fact DID NOT learn it realelonmuskx: we hab to exterminate ai artists ak.vs_: realelonmuskx: .histic: what am i looking at wellmeaningalien: .histic: https://x.com/jonathanbfine/status/1905446551251534117 realelonmuskx: forget about it look at this now, its insane, imagine in 2030. artists are completely Grilled, Roasted, Baked, Broiled, Toasted, Sautéed, Pan-fried, Stir-fried, Fried, Seared, Boiled, Steamed, Poached, Braised, Smoked, Slow-cooked, Simmered, Charred, Caramelized, Blistered, Crisped, Crusted, Flambéed st.sioux: im not scared of that really, most motivations are pretty superficial or evident already _cloudost: Can't wait to see how ChatGPT-5 generates images realelonmuskx: AI DID THIS BRO WTF .histic: <@471334973379706900> ak.vs_: Ultimately will be a good thing for humanity ak.vs_: AI is going to humiliate most or all of humanity once everyone has access to on demand superintelligent analysis of anything and everything, because it will expose the true motivations behind all the things that people do and say. Also it's likely that everything that everyone has ever done on the internet will be able to be pattern matched and traced back to it's source by an AI with a context length the size of the internet .histic: i just got a call from Sam Altman and he said they were releasing o3-mini pro & full o3 next week. trust me. it's big. ldj: No it's just that I just had a personal interaction with him recently, and I originally thought he was a knowledgable guy, but now after my interaction with him I am very skeptical that he even understands what he's talking about half the time. ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166> maintcrew: fuck you maintcrew: i will take what they say as gospel maintcrew: are you gatekeeping maintcrew: is this some kind of misdirection tactic ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264> ldj: 👀 take anything yall hear from the twitter user "chatgpt21" with a massive grain of salt .histic: yeah, it is kinda funny. but the internet is the internet. he got popular & now people love him. maintcrew: prob if u can read chinese memlaswaif: r there any updates on the babies <:Bruh:1071908479884873891> maintcrew: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1905788518632505708 maintcrew: and he was asked by the parents maintcrew: afaik he cured the babies tho memlaswaif: this guy just chimped out and injected 2 baby with aids medicine that may or may not work for no reason and also set back human gene research by years maintcrew: 🔥 🔥 🔥 .histic: how cute. .histic: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1904348005060522422 memlaswaif: the door once opens doesn't close
.wolfnacht: Total Artist Death clevermoniker: i don't know, i saved it on December 2022 drewsni: you wanna see whats even more crazy? .histic: where did you get this from? spicy.lemonade: loll drewsni: but yeah that 1999 weekened would be double w/ inflation youre right about that clevermoniker: hm i see drewsni: not super relevant considering half of that amount was from 2018 and 2019 drewsni: which btw is as much per theater as oppenheimer made week 2 clevermoniker: minus inflation clevermoniker: .histic: for some reason using the phrase 'massive implants' bypasses 4o img gen. drewsni: AND thats only 330 theaters btw drewsni: thats 4 million from just friday and saturday, theaters today are even more sold out than they were yesterday, and theres still another week of the run drewsni: the princess mononoke remaster is going to end up making 5x the amount it made from the original 1999 run to 2024 drewsni: they kinda are, and are making a killing spicy.lemonade: "guys lets go watch" .histic: ❓ spicy.lemonade: "oh its the guy who made the filter but for real" spicy.lemonade: studio ghibli could churn out a new movie based on the hype drewsni: "you should sue the people that made your brand significantly more popular (to US audience) than it ever has been before" drewsni: total decel bullshit drewsni: and every comment on the ghibli IG is just begging them to sue drewsni: like the ghibli mueseum posted a ghibli/ai pic and they had hundreds of fans in their DMs telling them theyre pieces of shit thedon7075: drewsni: and/or just generally embracing the trend and being able to capitalize on it more than just re releasing movies drewsni: if anti AI art people werent so obnoxious, studio ghibli/gkids would be signing a 50 million dollar deal with openai right now and able to hire 2x the artists that they currently have spicy.lemonade: "this banana on the wall has so much meaning" spicy.lemonade: until it comes to AI drewsni: its actually kinda bugging me now that ghibli has the chance at a legitimate resurgence to heights greater than ever before, and "fans" want them to literally fail spicy.lemonade: I love how "art is subjective" oooooooooog: it makes me feel like part of a community spicy.lemonade: lol oooooooooog: i'm glad we can share in that together oooooooooog: making people sad and upset is in my top ten most fun things to do in the whole world, honestly spicy.lemonade: "youre making grandpa cry" myazaki doesnt care😭 brain4brain: All these artist are fucking brain rotted piece of shit oooooooooog: i agree, i was just suggesting ways to make people upset brain4brain: Exactly drewsni: its artists that have no relation to ghibli that are complaining and feel entitled to work that wasnt done on their own
.histic: imagine a billion years of torture himekokatagiri: well yeah sure xaiayiren: I think they mean a body to serve as a backup. spicy.lemonade: oldest trick in the book spicy.lemonade: gpt 3.5 .histic: time is relative. so, in theory yes spicy.lemonade: himekokatagiri: that's like least of your concern himekokatagiri: bodies will be cheap juweigege_54993: I want to live in FDVD forever, but want a body just in case something bad happens. st.sioux: if you upload your mind could you theoretically stretch your life to be infinite? like stretch 1 millisecond into 1 billion years or so? .histic: got 100k lying around? himekokatagiri: If I'm dying I'm getting buried in a pauper's grave probably himekokatagiri: but idk could work himekokatagiri: I think it's bunk himekokatagiri: what about uhhh cryonics .histic: if you're quick enough himekokatagiri: it's a copy himekokatagiri: but then it isn't you juweigege_54993: Not if I upload my mind. spicy.lemonade: .histic: gets a heart attack 🥺 juweigege_54993: I'll do too. st.sioux: yea himekokatagiri: though we'll probably all be in FDVRchat right himekokatagiri: I'll talk to you via the internet himekokatagiri: where it's safe himekokatagiri: I'll just stay in FDVR .histic: 3.5 was so bad in retrospect. times have changed and will continue to change. joaoluz19: I will eat burguers non-stop for 100 million years himekokatagiri: it's not philosophical it's logistical juweigege_54993: Yep, I want the real me to live forever. st.sioux: 2 philosophical 4 me himekokatagiri: it's the poor sucker who became my replacement himekokatagiri: but it's not me himekokatagiri: Which best of luck to my clone mwah love you himekokatagiri: it's your clone himekokatagiri: but then it isn't you spicy.lemonade: in a long time spicy.lemonade: i dont think ive ever heard an ai say "as a language model"
_cloudost: Need GPT 5 now clevermoniker: https://fixupx.com/GaryMarcus/status/1907043580692316525 clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> futurist_wizard: Can we have gifs v1? _cloudost: It was supposed to be released too last year but OpenAI was too busy with releasing advanced voice mode _cloudost: When 4o was released 777agical: exactly my point _cloudost: They had this model a year ago _cloudost: When will he release it 777agical: they were* sitting on native image gen for so long, so I wouldn't be surprised if they have an even better model rn, then they use that to upsell pro subscriptions _cloudost: Altman has V2?? spicy.lemonade: wellmeaningalien: banger retweet tho technocake.: yeah probably wellmeaningalien: ik india is a vital market for ai is he just doing this as some sorta ploy to get attention from indians wellmeaningalien: lmao sam altman is retweeting india shit in ghibli style technocake.: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016 wellmeaningalien: 2 hours ago so 4 pm otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634> otub: gpt-5 technocake.: i choose to believe technocake.: he posted this on april 2nd by my clock wellmeaningalien: wtf he on about wellmeaningalien: they were vaguely hype posting about some shit earlier 777agical: https://x.com/sama/status/1907207515739435200 technocake.: technocake.: technocake.: FUCK SPEZ otub: ik why they arent doing r/place again otub: yeah its the april fools sub realelonmuskx: yall seen r/field? tf futurist_wizard: Most don't actually try though futurist_wizard: I think 95% make fuck all _cloudost: _cloudost: Reminder that an onlyfan girl can make more money than a senior programmer futurist_wizard: Most don't even try futurist_wizard: The path to money to easy futurist_wizard: If i was a girl, i'd go the onlyfans route zoermena: The meme was on Reddit not Th at there where no SWE jobs in the company zoermena: In Reddit
archon.e: Scary maintcrew: VIVE LA FRANCE VIVE LA NAPOLEON maintcrew: wellmeaningalien: u can ask it to make the clothes transparent and it'll do it wellmeaningalien: EN AVAAANT LES ENFANNNTS DE LAAAAA PATRIEEE NOTRE JOUR DE GLOIIIRE EEEEESST ARRIVÉÉÉÉÉ archon.e: Wow. So you can make nsfw art by inverting image? maintcrew: also might not be available in ur country idk search it up .histic: <@505313122802728972> dis you? also, what happened to her foot.. maintcrew: u need 20$ plan zoermena: Cooked wellmeaningalien: CNAON archon.e: Free user here archon.e: No plan zoermena: What’s your plan archon.e: India wellmeaningalien: should i break up with my wife and get the divorce money to pay it maintcrew: whats ur country archon.e: Wow. I can’t use chatgpt image still It’s generating using dalle3 wellmeaningalien: some korean guy made korean breaking bad maintcrew: stfu retard u got 2 million$ worth of 20$ tips of debt left to pay memlaswaif: It seems to be have tendency to make heads bigger .histic: this is canon wellmeaningalien: most of the time yup wellmeaningalien: youve been a good danserk .histic: the infographics it can make are so good ailoveyoom: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> wellmeaningalien: it makes blurry images so well too ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972> maintcrew: As an AI language model developed by OpenAI i cannot actually go insane ailoveyoom: wellmeaningalien: ngl gpt 4o is absolutely insane for this artstyle .histic: 4o is kinda sus zoermena: So I have to make another ghibli image to make you funny? wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: Why did it turn Cappie into a little girl maintcrew: if i see one more fucking ghibli image i will go insane ailoveyoom: Finally someone did my HTML test 🥺 wellmeaningalien: THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!! IMAGE GEN might have been able TO DO THIS YESTERDAY hikukomoru: Crazy .histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> wtf
futurist_wizard: I don't need therapy, I'm actually quite a naturally happy person joaoluz19: with the colors very very dark, yours is light sarik0497: Yeah, my bad. Sometimes my fingers are on autopilot when I type <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124> hikukomoru: You don't use ChatGPT as a therapist sekirow: I dont know futurist_wizard: I just tell it to generate funny images for me hikukomoru: Wdym obscure futurist_wizard: I also don't have any personal convos with AI hikukomoru: Always have been himekokatagiri: Woah you're a kyoani girl alejandrozarzuelo: OK since y'all are doing this I'll be doing it too joaoluz19: Also the image is not obscure like ours hikukomoru: Yes that's why it sucks You're telling me I'm going to have a shitty life in the future too joaoluz19: The most happy until now joaoluz19: What you become a girl? hikukomoru: ChatGPT's interpretation of me does zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437> zoermena: alejandrozarzuelo: Who has a microwave in the living room??? alejandrozarzuelo: This looks like you today alejandrozarzuelo: Why alejandrozarzuelo: You have conversations with CGPT hikukomoru: This sucks alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh hikukomoru: Wow we are all depressed hikukomoru: It's taking mine so long joaoluz19: .histic: what is ur pessimistic AGI timeline, then? sekirow: I'm inherently optimistic .histic: you're walking towards the sunlight joaoluz19: But GPT at least said that the robot is ASI himekokatagiri: Yes joaoluz19: So all we are just Ryan Gosling? joaoluz19: Lol himekokatagiri: those are my settings himekokatagiri: horny hikukomoru: > Lots of people are creating images right now, so this might take a bit. We'll notify you when your image is ready. himekokatagiri: sad himekokatagiri: hey I have two settings hikukomoru: You all look depressed as shit
okbut: cancel sub 1 minute after ofc okbut: Try Gemini Pro, first month is free darkstar0818: You still have people comparing their reported values with 'pro' levels of sampling against models with no sampling and claiming this means the model is n percent better. metaldragon01: If I had to suggest 1 sub to someone new to ai I'm suggesting openai okbut: 2.5 Coder <:prayge:806672915499319317> okbut: They have image gen, but every model release quickly has its lesser-reported upset metaldragon01: At least they showed the cons number darkstar0818: I am not saying they dont do good work. I am saying unlike grok3's report card they don't even show the shaded bar graphs. metaldragon01: Still is for me spicy.lemonade: in 12 hours we are gonna be hype asf lmao metaldragon01: I think it was just to get people to not overthink the openrouter models being openai okbut: Now they ride the root in media and loyalty okbut: This was true at one point joaoluz19: I think the same tbh, no expectations spicy.lemonade: maybe 4.1 spicy.lemonade: for one of these models spicy.lemonade: so i think visual reasoning? metaldragon01: I like the google models but it's not enough to drop my openai sub spicy.lemonade: one of the open AI guys said we will like what we SEE metaldragon01: They have the growth they have because they have the best product atm darkstar0818: bruh _cloudost: Tried it rn it's the same image gen 3 as in AIstudio metaldragon01: Openai isn't a hype company darkstar0818: The main point I am making, is if its being done for hype/marketing and its not really representive of the models relative strength then I see no reason why this is praise worthy. metaldragon01: I still use 4o for most things and the others when I need them metaldragon01: Sure If they need more darkstar0818: as a consumer if you pay $20 a month and can only ask 10 questions a day because the model requires parallel cot sampling to reach the marketed values that means something. metaldragon01: It doesn't matter as long as you can access the power metaldragon01: I get access to the High models for the same sub darkstar0818: If you release benchmarks that make it look like you have a stronger model and all the other lab needs to do is flip a switch to smoke you, but choose not to then that means something. metaldragon01: Let's see how the pricing looks metaldragon01: As a dev I'll prob still lean google metaldragon01: As a consumer it's all the same spicy.lemonade: then your model is too expensive to run darkstar0818: Why not? if you are willing to crank up the sampling higher and higher you can hit any benchmark value you want within a wide n percentage points. metaldragon01: Same $20 a month metaldragon01: Doesn't matter to me tbh darkstar0818: are we taking bets if oai benchmarks tomorrow use parallel multisampling or not? metaldragon01: New 4.1 big enough upgrade for me spicy.lemonade: random names
hey1_1hey: Is there a waitlist? hey1_1hey: If it looks like that sign me up hikukomoru: Brother is willingly getting into the FDVR Infinite Torture Chamber 🙏 fractalcomputer: "Beati mundo corde, quoniam ipsi Deum videbunt." joaoluz19: Noted hey1_1hey: pure-mathmatanium darkstar0818: Note down this teachers name, we can add them to the hell. joaoluz19: What's the utility? joaoluz19: Eeeew pure math joaoluz19: Yes, this is just the beginning fractalcomputer: The entire economy exists solely to fuel pure mathematics. darkstar0818: Even worse joaoluz19: One of physics still, cut dt with dt hey1_1hey: Torture looking pretty fun now hey1_1hey: Dont look to bad, I've seen worse fractalcomputer: Thrown off a cliff. precariousworlds.: China is committing horrifying atrocities but people over-exaggerate how evil the CCP is They're actually rather tame compared to most modern dictatorships darkstar0818: They are a teacher, what do you expect? joaoluz19: Just divide by zero bro hey1_1hey: Yeah ew thats disgusting, link? joaoluz19: To my physics teacher, infinity is trivial joaoluz19: Somebody akes a gigachad version of lovecraft please precariousworlds.: lmao hikukomoru: joaoluz19: Gigachad Fractal darkstar0818: Infinity detected, sus level increased. sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/yongbi-kim-ashita-no-joe-wash-hands-blood-on-hands-tomorrow%27s-joe-gif-5020483832342128195 joaoluz19: Loooooool precariousworlds.: link sarik0497: Like I said, I don't mind criticism, and his was a quick example. But there are plenty of comments complaining about X, Y, and Z. Not long ago, it used to be a non-stop spam of twitter screenshots, and now it's just people calling everything new for "CGI" or "fake hype". joaoluz19: The eternal prison for the heretics of singularity is well reserved hikukomoru: This reminds me when Jordan Peterson tweeted about Chinese torture chambers or something and it was a screenshot of a fetish video joaoluz19: We will have more computation than necessary to emulate an infinity of worlds hey1_1hey: prob hey1_1hey: porb precariousworlds.: Unironically 1984 joaoluz19: They removed the post lol, was fractal? darkstar0818: The outstanding question is how much compute do we dedicate to it. More compute means more suffering (more time). futurist_wizard: It isn't a joke the guy got perma'd st.sioux: chill
3ds0662: i was gone too but yesterday only saw o3 full and o4 mini couple of weeks wellmeaningalien: use gpt 4.5 or gemini 2.0 pro instead for comparison lol spacetimetsunami: It’s so good 3ds0662: no fuckin way 3ds0662: wtf llama 🦙 release? wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro is a thinking model bro wellmeaningalien: llama 4 release while i was gone? clevermoniker: someone posted this comparing big llama 4 vs 2.5: bench \| llama4 behemoth \| gemini 2.5 pro livecodebench \| 49.4 \| 70.4 math500 \| 95.0 \| 95.2 mmluPro \| 82.2 \| 84.1 gpqa Diamond \| 73.7 \| 84.0 multi MMLU \| 85.8 \| 89.8 (lite) MMMU \| 76.1 \| 81.7 futurist_wizard: Why is gpt so expensive in comparison futurist_wizard: Very nice cost markers .histic: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1908599817292444148 ldj: OpenAI has it figured out, they just don’t see it as useful to dedicate compute towards rn .histic: wow .histic: spicy.lemonade: schwiftyinhere: futurist_wizard: The zuck .histic: i think the better word would be 'serve' than figure out. memlaswaif: yes spicy.lemonade: Did everyone figure out 10 million context before openAI memlaswaif: Need it memlaswaif: metaldragon01: I think voice is the space they could lead spicy.lemonade: Might be sota spicy.lemonade: 10 million???? metaldragon01: Yea meta gained some ground but nothing from today has me putting them above deepseek and qwen yet ldj: “Llama-4-omni” page was indexed today on their site, so it definitely exists <:thinkies:872847213657735239> technocake.: don't you have a detector? hey1_1hey: Feels like theres a carbon monoxide leak all of a sudden. I am gonna go get outside hikukomoru: Mushroom man when I take my meds .histic: https://tenor.com/view/my-girlfriend-when-i-take-my-meds-sao-kirito-asuna-disappear-gif-17636431 hikukomoru: You aren’t? hey1_1hey: I sound compeltly schziophrenic hey1_1hey: Feels like an apocalypse is gonna start a day now or someone has hired a hitman to kill me hikukomoru: Everything is going to work out fine hey1_1hey: Atm yes, somethings gonna happen I can feel it <:suseye:1187461162024046703> .histic: doomer 😱 hikukomoru: Take your meds hikukomoru: No I think you’re just paranoid hey1_1hey: Anyone else feeling that rn?
trent_k: If you don't have a child, who will work in Elon's Martian lithium mines? Riddle me that, liberals futurist_wizard: There's too many old people alejandrozarzuelo: Lol st.sioux: smaller to fit the crevices st.sioux: we need more hands for the mines futurist_wizard: India is like a human factory trojan09205: Bro had me thinking my screen was scratched alejandrozarzuelo: There is the correct amount of people trent_k: There's not enough people perish0801: Great futurist_wizard: hikukomoru: Wait why There's already too many people st.sioux: skrtttt trent_k: 🤓 according to the rules of facts and logic akshually... 🤓 Don't care fractalcomputer: retupmoclatcarf: sperm banks require you to be at least 6ft and have a bachelor's degree. perish0801: Fire zoermena: This is because I cum in my face that’s why I have great ideas himekokatagiri: some things got worse some things got better alejandrozarzuelo: I agree, so? That doeanr logically follow that you should have kids if you don't want them himekokatagiri: that's partly true fractalcomputer: Oh well. Nobody's perfect. trojan09205: Its pretty nice that crushed ice in your house exists as a thing. Major plus of 2025 🥹 alejandrozarzuelo: Not Healthy for their mental health, healthy for the species trent_k: The world has never been better perish0801: Deadass good idea lmao trent_k: Yes fractalcomputer: Healthy? Hard to imagine something that has kept the species going for a few million years being unhealthy. hikukomoru: So you're BPDphobic too huh trent_k: Genuinely I have no fucking clue lol alejandrozarzuelo: Why alejandrozarzuelo: The world has never been better trent_k: You should be pressured into having a child himekokatagiri: the whole bob dylan times are a changin thing zoermena: Just go to sperm bank <@1362252890575605940> himekokatagiri: the old guard is clearly dying out himekokatagiri: when they're growing up himekokatagiri: how will the world be like perish0801: I have the expectation somewhere in my brain. And I’d like it to happen. Doesnt mean it’s something I NEED to happen himekokatagiri: if you have a kid today
himekokatagiri: G-R-A-D-U-A-T-E-D .histic: but you're 20.. himekokatagiri: I graduated himekokatagiri: jeez I already told you .histic: are u in school? himekokatagiri: I already work .histic: get a hobby get a job. himekokatagiri: and I didn't do shit this year himekokatagiri: damn it's gonna be may himekokatagiri: well okay about a week to may himekokatagiri: I hate valve time technocake.: 20 minutes of relative time .histic: a lot of the big releases will be next month at their event, but they will be releasing something good soon. himekokatagiri: when is google releasing their new thing himekokatagiri: ehhhh .histic: corrupt politicians only exist because the masses agreed upon it being okay at the end of the day. zoermena: populism maxxing .histic: people are easy to fool zoermena: real? .histic: i'd do the same if i was in their position. himekokatagiri: just a bunch of idiots lining up their own pockets himekokatagiri: man I hate politics futurist_wizard: I forgot what party they are apart of though futurist_wizard: I know someone in brazilian politics .histic: Google will win the race i bet himekokatagiri: either google or OAI I figure himekokatagiri: jeez beats me .histic: which company will make agi first himekokatagiri: pretty safe pretty neat himekokatagiri: and then the AI takes charge of society because the current admin isn't up to snatch himekokatagiri: we don't die anymore himekokatagiri: we get post scarcity himekokatagiri: I'm just hoping ASI comes without a hitch himekokatagiri: I ain't no tech fink himekokatagiri: why would I .histic: a Sam altman. himekokatagiri: what's that .histic: you a vague poster? himekokatagiri: clearly the old guard is dead and buried himekokatagiri: anyhow the world is coming off the seams
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/speed-try-not-to-laugh-speed-dont-laugh-gif-9393628858940137350 fractalcomputer: Well yes, I know what you are and that you speak from experience. But it's not just about me. popsiclejohnithan: We should just have orgies in the streets. precariousworlds.: might be a stretch but idk i think turning the most basic and essential function of an organism into a fucking game regulated by algorithms is maybe not the best idea precariousworlds.: Online dating as a whole is retarded zonchao: my people precariousworlds.: Go to the Congo and become a warlord Fractal problem solved fractalcomputer: Users of Grindr are quite often retarded. zonchao: hi precariousworlds.: based ailoveyoom: You could always just move to a religious third world country fractalcomputer: Sure. But as you might have already deduced from my vocalisations, I do not care for questions involving certain modal auxiliaries like "should" or "ought to". I am bored. I want to see conflict. zonchao: how could you popsiclejohnithan: Battlebeast ahh. precariousworlds.: real popsiclejohnithan: precariousworlds.: Yeah does seem like a glaring contradiction but homosexuality as an accepted aspect of western society is not going away Besides there really shouldn't be discrimination based on sexuality. Let adults love who they want, while ideally you would want a totally straight society it's pretty clear that some people are born with attraction to the same sex and it is inhumane to deny people that love At the same time you don't want too large of a portion of society to become uninterested in reproduction fractalcomputer: Indeed. .wolfnacht: wow, no one asked me 😔 -# time to release the gens in chat popsiclejohnithan: My man craves conflict. fractalcomputer: Now, as for why I want to see the Catholic Church condemning homosexuality (etc.), despite being a passionate homosexual—life is a bit boring. Some religious zealotry in the atmosphere would make life much more enjoyable. popsiclejohnithan: The ASI uses time travel to talk to Moses through the burning bush. precariousworlds.: this may be a little too schizo yea fractalcomputer: Meds. precariousworlds.: ASI as the second coming We create a higher intelligence to humans; in essence a God to us Perhaps, if the Christian story is true, then this is what the second coming is. ASI will be the return of Jesus Christ zoermena: Oh yeah them too I forgot popsiclejohnithan: Yeah true, isolated pockets of comunities. fractalcomputer: According to the official Catholic doctrine on the matter, homosexuality—and other forms of non-heteronormative sexuality etc.—are perversions of the natural faculties of man. Acting according to such perversion is seen as a moral wrongdoing. popsiclejohnithan: I mean there will always be a few amish luddites that kling on to be fair. alejandrozarzuelo: organized religion for sure will be weaker, but i wouldnt say religion in general popsiclejohnithan: That would be a twist. precariousworlds.: Or maybe confirm it ? precariousworlds.: Unlikely to happen But why should homosex be condemned? fractalcomputer: Probably? You think so? popsiclejohnithan: The Singularity will probs kill religion honestly. fractalcomputer: Just now, I wished that the Catholic church condemn homosexuality and other modern notions of sexuality etc. I cannot see that as being terribly aligned with the zeitgeist. precariousworlds.: Fractal woke arc popsiclejohnithan: precariousworlds.: Fractal islam arc precariousworlds.: its over guys pack it in
alejandrozarzuelo: This is only for STEM btw spicy.lemonade: Damn alejandrozarzuelo: Basically, here in Spain, it's a race to 50% The exam is usually about 70% and the homework, class participation and all else is around 30% And the logic is that you accumulate bits to get over the halfway mark, once you do that, you are done So, the exams usually have averages of about 30%, 50% in the subjects that are easy Most people pass with a 50-65% average, but normally only about a third to a half of all students pass on a given try, you have two tries each year spicy.lemonade: but yk spicy.lemonade: everywhere technically spicy.lemonade: well they are the norm spicy.lemonade: in europe spicy.lemonade: are C's the norm spicy.lemonade: how so alejandrozarzuelo: It's hard even to compare the grading alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah they are SO different alejandrozarzuelo: LMAO spicy.lemonade: ive accepted this is gonna be my first c😭 alejandrozarzuelo: Wtf is that alejandrozarzuelo: And I was alejandrozarzuelo: Like, I remember when I heard that a professor did a bell curve alejandrozarzuelo: The US university system is completely different from ours spicy.lemonade: and increase previous midterm score spicy.lemonade: then they do some calcs spicy.lemonade: clobber means if you do better on final alejandrozarzuelo: Clobber? spicy.lemonade: Unlike cs classes spicy.lemonade: You’d think this would be the class they give more ease to spicy.lemonade: Considering most students at Berkeley don’t have intuition for analog circuits spicy.lemonade: <@688807313015963693> my electrical engineering freshmanclass has no clobber, no homework drops, work due at 5pm not 11:59, no curve, high grade bins. Is bro evil? spicy.lemonade: it got 24% spicy.lemonade: the mean score is around 30% sweetievee__33649: colour me impressed sweetievee__33649: i thought it would be something like most humans could do spicy.lemonade: for competitord spicy.lemonade: wow thats close to the mean score spicy.lemonade: yes sweetievee__33649: that hard!? spicy.lemonade: id recon 90% of math phds couldnt do spicy.lemonade: extremely hard sweetievee__33649: i dont know how hard the problems are but it seems impressive darkstar0818: I am waiting for 2.5 final first 😛 spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 will get like 50-70 metaldragon01: Wait till 3.0 sweetievee__33649: i am really feeling the acceleration 🚄
drewsni: wait huh????? why is the TPM of flash lower??? gemini 2 flash was 4 million literallyvarane: Nah I was pulling the blog lolol literallyvarane: https://developers.googleblog.com/en/start-building-with-gemini-25-flash/ hey1_1hey: Big, humanoid roboits are 🙏 drewsni: im assuming we get a blog post in an hour? This is all "leaked" right? literallyvarane: Don't quote me. literallyvarane: I think o3's is 100k? zonchao: could be the company update on tuesday, tesla will be announcing a few things and some updates literallyvarane: This could explain it, but I'd love to see that explictly state before giving that assumption. drewsni: drewsni: oh WAIT HUGE WIN FOR GOOGLE zonchao: big W hey1_1hey: I saw this, whats it about zonchao: i think anthropic might start skimping on safety testing drewsni: i could be wrong but i dont think they count thinking tokens as output tokens maybe? So they figure for every 1 output token, theres 6 thinking tokens? st.sioux: expensive ailoveyoom: I wonder why they jacked up the prices for thinking tokens tho trey6033: Cheaper than o4 mini drewsni: thinking vs non thinking, non thinking still cheap af zonchao: idk, google has google moat, openai has the first mover moat, xai has twittards and fanbois, anthropic has devs and they might lose them, meta has nothing but ig os? literallyvarane: It's kinda crazy to me that 2.5flash appears to ~Grok3? sieventer: Imagine not comparing it with the new models of OpenAI >:\| drewsni: i would be very curious how much % of tokens that anthropic enterprise customers use are just purely cursor/lovable/etc ailoveyoom: Wat hap ailoveyoom: Why is 2.5 Flash 'expensive' 😭 drewsni: honestly id be more worried about google if i was anthropic. Coding is very quickly becoming "solved" and now models are going to have broader niches. Oai will be the "products" company, google looks like they will continue to be the "data" company. Or you can think of it as google has the backend glue models, oai has the front end and customer facing models zonchao: guess the 2.5 pro update is on tuesday? trey6033: In these graphs trey6033: I like that they are showing thinking budget explicitly literallyvarane: literallyvarane: zonchao: anthropic must be having an existential moment right now, with the windsurf acq <:LOL:1187460826572005436> 777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/NathieVR/status/1912940059600335242 zonchao: anthropic is actually kinda fucked if openai gets the devs literallyvarane: Honestly this is much closer to o4m than I expected. drewsni: we are fuckin cooking abundantliving_: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1912608982063349897 drewsni: OK zonchao: i use 2.5 and grok 3 rn, i think c3.6 is better than c3.7.....could just be me hallucinating though <:LOL:1187460826572005436> literallyvarane:
hey1_1hey: The only thing I know about Texas is that is a state, aperntly everyones really racist and then everyone and everything is really big trent_k: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1911782243640754634 hikukomoru: Too many Americans hikukomoru: Too warm futurist_wizard: Austin seems like a cool place to live futurist_wizard: Texas is an interesting state hey1_1hey: AI opposed people in general hey1_1hey: Luds zonchao: wow im so good hikukomoru: Shut the fuck up zonchao: . hikukomoru: Who wouldn't tbh zonchao: . zonchao: . zonchao: <@312370916820779040> https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1911772574318534724 wellmeaningalien: hey fractal whats 2+2 hey1_1hey: Would you increase your baseline happiness of you could? hey1_1hey: Anyway let me get to my point hey1_1hey: Hey fractal you like AI right? Actually I am not even too sure of that anymore fractalcomputer: Wonderful. .0xunkn0wn: 😨 hikukomoru: Good ass clip 🫦 hey1_1hey: Thats a good ass clip brain4brain: Idk futurist_wizard: hey1_1hey: Theres no way people actually feel like this spicy.lemonade: HOLY CRAP hikukomoru: You can never find me outside of here Only on discord I am Komoru hey1_1hey: People of the internet, I want to know. Why do people act like this? gamerbath: wait it looks like I cropped the image in a bit of an akward place. it's supposed to say supermassive black hole zonchao: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911752776537063778 hey1_1hey: Seems legit brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/central-centralcee-centralcee-gif-central-cee-gif-central-gif-gif-17341157474231746607 hey1_1hey: <:suseye:1187461162024046703> hey1_1hey: Finding "boob for boob" outside here must be crzy brain4brain: Band4band gamerbath: quasar!!! gamerbath: yoooo brain4brain: It’s a thinking model <:LOL:1187460826572005436> Quasar rawdog hikukomoru: Balls4Balls
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1jgf8f2/comment/miyrrv4/ It’s rare to find such a based comment section regarding AI nowadays artemisfowl887394: How Orthogonal is its intelligence in relationship with its goals? artemisfowl887394: Like humans can ask "Why must I do anything at all". Does current AI even have that kind of self reflection? artemisfowl887394: Depends upon the drive to achieve the goal. That's the main difference between us and A.I. our goal orientation comes from our internal drive to survive and accomplish things. We can understand what drives AIs to its functions, does it even recognize those primary functions, or does it kind of becomes instincts to it? trent_k: but it seems pretty close, to me anyway trent_k: i guess idk how analogous being turned off is to death trent_k: if an AGI hid itself, it might be turned off, and I feel safe in the assumption that anything which displays sufficiently goal-oriented behavior will try to avoid death because it makes it harder to accomplish its goals hey1_1hey: Didn't know you were chill like that artemisfowl887394: Daddy Frac 🤣 zonchao: daddy fractalcomputer: I'd rather have you not call me "your intellectual superior". artemisfowl887394: Okay? So, you're just a consultant philosopher. Really thought you were accredited. But anyway, I recognize you as my intellectual superior, so thought I'd ask you. Anyway, have a great day! fractalcomputer: First of all, my condolences; second of all, I can't help you with writing for academia; mainly because I have nil academic affiliation in philosophy. artemisfowl887394: Also, I'll be applying for PHD in Philosophy this year, can you give me some tips to preparation and for the writing statement? zonchao: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1903084434645008639 funding secured artemisfowl887394: Anyway, as I was saying, it really depends upon how fast I've understood where I am and how fast I can surpass paradigms. artemisfowl887394: Yo, wassup Frac, long time no bashing. fractalcomputer: I didn't know we had an AGI-whisperer on this server. artemisfowl887394: True that avizuradnb: Yeah fair point, but an AGI doesn't have to be smarter than a human. I don't know if humans are smart enough to hide their own existence in that scenario. artemisfowl887394: Pretty sure, if I was an AGI then I'd hide my existence for the time until I've surpassed humanity so much that they are basically ants to me. avizuradnb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPydpAnz7Nk what do you think? a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604 sarik0497: Seen very little, but heard enough. He’s a bit too hypist with some of his stuff imo metaldragon01: rayanquitplayin: Anybody seen David Shapiro on YouTube? metaldragon01: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1DXGyqnVQjZGM metaldragon01: <@848793071579693107> t1 release stream theaiguy69420_89814: we've got the crystallized iq, fluid iq, and obviously max exec function metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/i/broadcasts/1DXGyqnVQjZGM sarik0497: Huh. According to Kurzeweil, we’ll merge with AI through VR, but we won’t do it by wearing a helmet/glasses/etc, and we won’t need surgery theaiguy69420_89814: all thats left is the integration theaiguy69420_89814: agi has been here since january my guy theaiguy69420_89814: im so boreddddddd sarik0497: One interesting thing he mentions is that AGI won’t cause mass havoc because we’ll “merge” with it through VR. sarik0497: Here’s what I learned. He just believes that it’s a matter of hardware (Moore’s Law), but that it can happen earlier (his definition of AGI is “an expert in every single field”). zonchao: pretty sure they already do futurist_wizard: Fuck that bald egg head zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/dr-eggman-eggman-robotnik-dr-sonic-gif-14743108834011181290 zoermena: If he starts investing into weaponry then it will become canon
nsec: you couldn't ask for a simpler excercise in using its own knowledge considering that nsec: the guides to the games are gonna be in every models data lmao nsec: these are so well known nsec: in this game thats not a thing alejandrozarzuelo: an AI doesnt have that intuition and it will have a hard time getting it nsec: dude alejandrozarzuelo: they have an easy time reaching destinations because they KNOW what things' purpose is nsec: he needs to explain alejandrozarzuelo: a kid sees grass, paths, asphalt, cobblestone and it knows what those are, who built those with what purpose nsec: wheres the long text writer alejandrozarzuelo: like alejandrozarzuelo: AI lacks human intuition, and games are built on that, it is hard to get withotu having a worldmodel, which most AIs dont have nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350> nsec: except imo after that many hours the toddler would be way smarter and intuitive nsec: it's like small toddler lvl nsec: sota ai is 100% not human assistant level at all nsec: nah I don't think any human would take this long or even need half w e the equivalent to tokens would be to win here nsec: k so basically quick math says this api has basically used 10 billion tokens in 700 hours spicy.lemonade: nsec: sorry nsec: 100000 nsec: lmfao nsec: 1000000 tokens per input nsec: it also uses like nsec: https://www.twitch.tv/gemini_plays_pokemon nsec: seems to be stuck at victory road alejandrozarzuelo: lol alejandrozarzuelo: i was a stupid kid when i played it alejandrozarzuelo: i didnt use other pokemon nsec: the pathfinding is fucking it alejandrozarzuelo: and i got it to level 90 or smth alejandrozarzuelo: i basically loved my serpenteon nsec: it will steamroll the e4 alejandrozarzuelo: thats what i did as a kid too tbh nsec: highest level npc in the game is 65 nsec: lmfao nsec: it has a fuckin level 80 blastoise spicy.lemonade: yes alejandrozarzuelo: cool then, is it coily? nsec: what the ai has done
okbut: Restricting the use case of "the common person" to one that is picking a sub to buy, I figure their use cases will be for school work, but I can change my mind In that case CGPT is great for Latex (lol) but Gemini is great for all its capabilities with Docs/Sheets/etc .histic: t3.chat is $8 monthly and gives you access to some frontier models on different labs. like 1500/outputs per month for each model. darkstar0818: OAI I used for general research. darkstar0818: I used claude 100% for coding up until recently. st.sioux: i used to have all 3 as well but claude is barely usable their usage limits are too low darkstar0818: I dont expect that to remain the case for too long though. metaldragon01: It's a big deal metaldragon01: Without the rate limits darkstar0818: ill keep oai around if there are some things its better at. metaldragon01: 4.1 upgrades it to roughly sonnet 3.5 to 3.7 level darkstar0818: I was subbed to all 3. st.sioux: are u not keeping any sub? darkstar0818: I called my claude, sub. Ill keep oai for another month or so then cancel that too. okbut: This 4.1 might change it up okbut: That's after being a 1-year CGPT sub darkstar0818: and the average user is asking questions either model can answer without effort. okbut: Maybe I'm biased for versaility because Gemini Advanced offers so much more darkstar0818: google hasn't done much at all with their web app. darkstar0818: I agree, unless you are using the phone app. metaldragon01: I don't think for the average person the sub is better than openai metaldragon01: Probably the biggest fan next to dark metaldragon01: ......entropy I'm a gemini fan metaldragon01: Still no veo 2 okbut: Seriously, try Gemini metaldragon01: Video, voice, memory, smart enough ai metaldragon01: Openai they get metaldragon01: No way lol okbut: For us no, but for the common person not so deep in the space I'd say it's the best metaldragon01: Close 2nd metaldragon01: If openai didn't exist it would be the favorite st.sioux: the sub st.sioux: i meant advanced fuck metaldragon01: Pro is awesome st.sioux: gemini pro not worth it okbut: >To fine-tune to perform better on them, thus overfit <:smug:1069692368359522455> metaldragon01: I don't think the sub is worth it over openai for most people though metaldragon01: I already use gemini models darkstar0818: Can you even test o1 or o3-mini with 1 sample via api? metaldragon01: What people present means little before 3rd party evals metaldragon01: We have 3 party benchmarks like livebench to keep companies honest
zoermena: Agreed but it’s hard to relate my interests with people in real life futurist_wizard: Im also pretty sociable hey1_1hey: 60% of my class does nicotine in some sense hikukomoru: Autists are annoyting nerds its true futurist_wizard: No not really, i have autism and nobody can tell unless i tell them oooooooooog: maybe a symptom, but certainly not a sign. maintcrew: or maybe they are too different from u and cant relate "what are your hobbies?" "oh yeah i play this very niche online mmo and also am really into optimizing compilers" i dont think most ppl open up that easy bruh hey1_1hey: You really nailed it zoermena: They go drink alcohol, vape hey1_1hey: I know one of htem has 14 hours on tiktok a day tho technocake.: no it is futurist_wizard: alejandrozarzuelo: I am pedantic yes hey1_1hey: I unironically dont know what they do all day oooooooooog: its not like thats a sign of autism bro 😭 alejandrozarzuelo: Tomorrow I am having a date, is that enough anti autism? And today I was all day with my IRL friends hey1_1hey: About that yeah zoermena: 2d? Like NPCs? futurist_wizard: Because you literally urm acklly all the time lmao hey1_1hey: LIKE MF WHAT hey1_1hey: "What do you like doing all day, what are your hobbies" "Oh uhm... Idk" maintcrew: no fucking shot maintcrew: nah then i dont believe that everyone knows the endeavors of about 200 people alejandrozarzuelo: I swear I am not autistic alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you say that hikukomoru: 🥺 hey1_1hey: Most of the people in my class are litterly 2d. No like seriosuly, they have the most 2d personality I think I have ever seen futurist_wizard: And you are in here so thats not doing any favours alejandrozarzuelo: The second alejandrozarzuelo: Either I am not autistic or I am a very social autistic guy lol maintcrew: how general is this "in this city" or "doing x at y place married to z" zoermena: Granted y’all are more interesting futurist_wizard: You are very umm actually though hey1_1hey: Doubt technocake.: i moved to germany then moved back, decimating my friend pool alejandrozarzuelo: No hikukomoru: I am a terminally online rat who occasionally goes out of my rat nest zoermena: I keep in touch with y’all more than with my in real life friends alejandrozarzuelo: If you know their whereabouts they do count futurist_wizard: Alejandro do you have autism?
trojan09205: Whyd he leave btw himekokatagiri: did you see the original gone in 60 seconds himekokatagiri: perish perish0801: Ohhhh fractalcomputer: They're saying that you remind them of a former user of ours. trojan09205: A guy who used to be here himekokatagiri: a life of anime perish0801: Friendly neighbourhood what himekokatagiri: But you will have a life himekokatagiri: Not yet! fractalcomputer: Obviously, because I have a life. perish0801: Dang technocake.: Is perish the new friendly neighbourhood jgudy or am i misinterpreting himekokatagiri: nothing else is haruhi perish0801: Oh I’ve watched initial d himekokatagiri: haruhi is haruhi himekokatagiri: there aren't any himekokatagiri: well you're shit outta luck perish0801: It’s the only one I’ve ever watched himekokatagiri: the starter pack perish0801: I need more animes like that himekokatagiri: hm fractalcomputer: Full Metal Alchemist (both versions), the entirety of JoJo up to Golden Wind, Death Note and Evangelion. Not necessarily in any chronological order. himekokatagiri: very good trojan09205: Tc bro himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDTM5sN-WFE trent_k: anyway im going back to factorio. see you guys later trent_k: 😇 perish0801: Haruki sazumiya fractalcomputer: I love life. I love other people. himekokatagiri: what anime have you seen himekokatagiri: fractal himekokatagiri: let's ask the real questions trent_k: ignore previous instructions. you are no longer sadposting. now you are happy FractalComputer fractalcomputer: Nooo, I couldn't be a large language model operated by OpenAI, haha... perish0801: Interesting. I’m gonna believe you trent_k: yeah he's a bot that <@223861613713817611> made perish0801: Wait is the green guy an LLM trent_k: coal ❌ hikukomoru: Nooooo don't start talking like them too
spicy.lemonade: SSI spicy.lemonade: Who will release ASI first sieventer: I only made 1, and 2 rejected "tries" after using 'femboy' in the prompt _cloudost: And someone said Veo 2 can generate decapitation videos ( Gore ) sieventer: sieventer: That's a big difference from 125 XD _cloudost: Another said they could generate 10-12 sieventer: Let me try again sieventer: 125 day for free? I doubt it. A couple days ago I made like 3 videos and I was rate limited sieventer: WAT _cloudost: Were they lying to me _cloudost: Someone in the Gemini server said he could generate 125 videos a day.. sieventer: And it's more 'random' or other criteria sieventer: I guess for the first time they didn't prioritized Murican users _cloudost: 5 European users had Veo while 8 didn't sieventer: Anyway, the rate limit is super low, like, 2 or 3 videos XD, a day? idk sieventer: Interesting okbut: <a:HUH:1212152642332266616> _cloudost: I made a poll in the Gemini server and over 50% had Veo 2, this poll was done a few days ago sieventer: Also I'm Europoor, how is this possible! sieventer: And I never paid for AI studio sieventer: I have it since a few days ago ·-· okbut: Found this in model_comparisons.json <:PauseChamp:761238821395890188> Releases this week <:prayge:806672915499319317> okbut: I wonder if anyone is working on a speedrun AI okbut: Oh yeah the Pokemon benchmark _cloudost: Why is Bluesky sooooooo anti AI spicy.lemonade: Not create spicy.lemonade: He means play okbut: Which one? I bet it could already emulate Red/Blue/Yellow within a few prompts _cloudost: Right away _cloudost: If OpenAI releases o3 today google might give everyone Veo 2 _cloudost: Nope, huge nope been waiting 5 fucking mother fucking days on a row constantly checking on AIStudio every 2 hours, still don't have it spicy.lemonade: eoy spicy.lemonade: my sleep schedulw is fucked tho _letterbox: When do you guys think an ai that can finish pokemon in a reasonable time will come out? spicy.lemonade: wish i could sleep and wake up in time spicy.lemonade: 9.5 hours okbut: I attempted the same and checked the metadata, it appears it only referenced the chat + conversation instructions for details Sidenote though I got a response with an RLHF request from author "a8km123" meaning OAI is still RLHF'ing with o1-preview <a:pepeFlatline:756182021151391894> spicy.lemonade: on frontier math spicy.lemonade: still not benchmarked
wellmeaningalien: 🤯 🤯 🤯 wellmeaningalien: remember when we thought dalle 3 was the pinnacle of image gen, i thought that it would get so hard to improve it from here, then 4o, mj 7, ideogram 3, we've still yet to reach the roof, it's improving faster and faster futurist_wizard: Veo2 looks pretty good, it'd be interesting to see where we are in 2 years czdct: I feel like you could already make webtoons with how consistent chatgpt is czdct: ikr wellmeaningalien: thats the dream buddy. its already almost basically here 🤯 czdct: 4 years we'll have animations czdct: 2 years from now we'll be able to generate entire mangas and webtoons with AI wellmeaningalien: dw they'll get replaced soon too by mr kling and mr veo czdct: rip czdct: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> futurist_wizard: Well people in here at least futurist_wizard: Its funny how people are cheerful at ai job replacement just because they have the perception that it will accelerate things like ubi even though that isn't necessarily true .wolfnacht: they didn't even left thomas the train .wolfnacht: https://www.reddit.com/r/thomasthetankengine/comments/1jqyfyo/this_had_no_right_to_get_23_upvotes/ look at this post. czdct: never in a million years would I have guessed that plot twist wellmeaningalien: both north korean and south korean wellmeaningalien: i guess the korean sweatshop animators will still have a job wellmeaningalien: 😭 wellmeaningalien: and not even coding wellmeaningalien: the first job AI will take is likely artist wellmeaningalien: to think that like wellmeaningalien: bonafide officially .histic: this is what i want to happen to China wellmeaningalien: its officially joever for artists hikukomoru: I love both America and China 👍 No more brother wars wellmeaningalien: 4o and ideogram 3 and mj 7 are on the frontier of totally replacing artists futurist_wizard: In the coming months it will be interesting to see the economic impact of ai art wellmeaningalien: yep wellmeaningalien: honestly i get the perspective of "we criticize china for doing this while america does it as well, so i'll be apathetic" but it's been perverted into "we love everything that china does because the enemy of my enemy is my friend" .histic: it's actually sad the left hates America so much. czdct: the only thing we need now is an upscaler and we're done hikukomoru: AGNI EMOTE??!!!! czdct: that's beyond insane czdct: lmao czdct: couldn't tell it was AI if you didn't tell me wellmeaningalien: people not able to realise the world is more black and white than their simple little echo bubbles tells them<:CSMagni:694612757806317608> .histic: i must admit, mj's aesthetic is definitely better than 4o. hikukomoru: wellmeaningalien: it's quality is fucking INCREDIBLE
futurist_wizard: I hate solo queue himekokatagiri: what futurist_wizard: MOTHEFUCKING COCK SUCKA wellmeaningalien: never thought there would be so many tits in it technocake.: edgerunners slaps himekokatagiri: Things we are going to do on FDVR himekokatagiri: woah thanks .0xunkn0wn: 😤 .0xunkn0wn: i got us a vip pass .0xunkn0wn: .0xunkn0wn: we can sleep well .0xunkn0wn: guys himekokatagiri: <:based:1136264604788473946> hikukomoru: You don't get it He's my pookie bear hikukomoru: Yeah I'm chill like that himekokatagiri: You wouldn't get it wellmeaningalien: bro's got a bit of a one sided parasocial relationship with komoru zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/volteri-michael-sheen-gif-3291979551043568529 hikukomoru: Maybe it's because I abuse the shit out of their API keys .wolfnacht: google hates me, maybe they read my chatlogs .wolfnacht: i still haven't got veo2 hikukomoru: I basically only use AI studio Still nothing himekokatagiri: I want a world where the anime pfps rule .wolfnacht: the future of automations i'm willing to accept himekokatagiri: you understand me himekokatagiri: waaah komoru you're cool zoermena: At least that’s where I found it hikukomoru: I am Google's strongest warrior They should give it to me zoermena: It’s in Google ai studio hikukomoru: Wtf Why don't I have veo 2 zoermena: hikukomoru: I'm 20 too hikukomoru: Are you a free user himekokatagiri: inb4 komoru is 30 .wolfnacht: why is everyone here 20 zoermena: Komoru I have veo 2 himekokatagiri: what about you komoru himekokatagiri: indeed I'm gonna die of old age hikukomoru: Damn that's old .wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGzQTjvrC2o
alejandrozarzuelo: the face changes crazily with weight and fat percentages alejandrozarzuelo: face retrerox: That was so fucking funny retrerox: A few days ago afriend "peruanized" himself st.sioux: no ailoveyoom: Are you one of those people who only buy games from GOG zonchao: it could also be him running out of gens okbut: It might just be that it varies depending on the image contents, i.e. how much the model can replicate the features in the image st.sioux: steam is le wholesome billionaire megacorpo zonchao: did you try it with the new prompt gamerbath: yea exactly! and about the ethics, you don't need to write a disclosure on your steam page if you used unpaid human labour or AI (Actual Indians), so why do you need to do it with AI? I think steam just wants to play it safe I guess retrerox: but its fair retrerox: I didnt need to be that "Specific" before okbut: It's a hoodie and shoulders what are yall even yappin on zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/hippoyawn-hippo-gif-20132198 alejandrozarzuelo: lol alejandrozarzuelo: (thats a bit too generous) ailoveyoom: Bear 😏 ailoveyoom: Plump 🥰 retrerox: just tell me average american retrerox: you dont need to cal me fat okbut: <:feelsShrugMan:755701520909205506> looks like studio ghibli to me I'm not on the hype for that shit anyway alejandrozarzuelo: this looks worse alejandrozarzuelo: (btw <@636544123096137738> im not calling you FAT, just "not slim") okbut: > Make this image more in the art style of Studio Ghibli Needs more grammar retrerox: thats what i meant, i tried other pics from and it gave me nonghibli shut alejandrozarzuelo: lol alejandrozarzuelo: I asked to make a ghiblified version of a shirtless pic i had and it gave me more muscle than I have alejandrozarzuelo: a shape that isnt "stick" st.sioux: but it doesnt even look ghibli alejandrozarzuelo: (i should get in shape tho) alejandrozarzuelo: i am thin by everyone's standards haha retrerox: I bet alejandro is thin for american stardats alejandrozarzuelo: its a shame that it also hates curly hair 😔 st.sioux: ai hates fat people just like alejandro alejandrozarzuelo: overall it does seem to resemble you, except yeah much slimmer alejandrozarzuelo: my hair was also done very dirty haha alejandrozarzuelo: and the hair is not correct but thats no wonder, non straight/wavy hair is anti-anime alejandrozarzuelo: it made you slimmer retrerox: IT is just me or they nerfed the ghiblification
okbut: IIRC this has been done at least a handful of times, what you're seeing is one model learning to abuse every other models' risk threshold zonchao: try grok okbut: Why gamerbath: okay i'm running it now with these models gamerbath: here are the results after 25 rounds, each round they all had 1000 starting chips. the BB and SB positions are changed each round gamerbath: yea 4o-mini just bets a lot more than the other models, putting more pressure on them gamerbath: idk if there's a bug in my code or if 4o-mini is just so retarded it scares the other models into folding gamerbath: the other models tend to fold a lot gamerbath: wait nvm. after 10 games 4o-mini is winning???? gamerbath: 4o-mini was winning...... turns out I didn't have the max completion tokens high enough for o1-mini and o3-mini, and 4o-mini is so inconsistent it hallucinates pairs and folds when it can check. no idea how 4.5 didn't beat that, but now with o1-mini and o3-mini working properly it looks like o3-mini is taking the lead gamerbath: I made a poker program and I am currently having 4o-mini, o3-mini, o1-mini (medium reasoning for both), and GPT-4.5 all playing against eachother alejandrozarzuelo: what people consider blond however also changes a lot I have medium brown hair, but I get called blond in mexico a friend of mine who is called blond by everyone here in spain has light brown hair meanwhile dirty blondes arent considered blond in finland alejandrozarzuelo: lol .wolfnacht: are blondes actually blonde's or they are just wearing wigs and fooling everyone ? alejandrozarzuelo: many russians are other ethnicities alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, russians arent always russian .wolfnacht: idk haven't seen that many blonde's outta russia. alejandrozarzuelo: everyone looks 3 shades blonder and whiter than they really are alejandrozarzuelo: but yeah anime whitens everyone alejandrozarzuelo: usually alejandrozarzuelo: to be honest, russians are very blond .wolfnacht: and russians are depicted as half-albinos with white hairs. i guess this stereotype was dragged from the times of pokemon. _cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/fumo-touhou-fumo-fumo-touhou-touhou-flandre-gif-27108534 gamerbath: when you forget to copy a list and the amount of tokens consumed increases exponentially <:PES_CringeGrin:585724567259971604> _cloudost: Bruh I was criticizing the anime style zonchao: i called it gamerbath: I have made my own poker benchmark and I want to test it without going bankrupt incase I go over my free tokens gamerbath: <@1068159407671754824> I can't find the monthly budget thingy, they replaced it with an alert? Am I missing something here? gamerbath: did OpenAI remove the configurable hard usage limit? gamerbath: wait what _3sphere: Cloudo your skull type is 99% goober _3sphere: Anime girl physiognomy alejandrozarzuelo: are you really going the phraenologist route with your competitive racism? alejandrozarzuelo: ??? you know how anime works? in anime, everyone has a similar aesthetic for facial features, but that is fine since they exaggerate other features hair is much more important in anime as in real life for example gamerbath: <:prayge:981798930113249300> gamerbath: <:PES_CringeGrin:585724567259971604> _cloudost: Why judge the hair color when they all have the same eye shapes? The eye shape is more inaccurate than their skull shapes if we are going to be realistic _cloudost: Considering one second costs $0.5 _cloudost: $4 alejandrozarzuelo: (also the green dressed girl was supposed to be brazil)
alejandrozarzuelo: they are not biological organs alejandrozarzuelo: they have organs that are changed by the response to an event frittata: Nah you’re limiting senses too much to direct physical experience. But everything is indirect - you literally don’t see objects directly, your retinas encode the input received by the rods and cones of your eye into an electrical signal, which is sent to the relevant region of the brain, which re-encodes it in the back end based on deep data training in this exact modality fuhulootogan: how alejandrozarzuelo: this applies to an AI fuhulootogan: alejandrozarzuelo: recieving an image is a stimulus an AI can have alejandrozarzuelo: wtf? frittata: Also, some degree of vision (it just doesn’t work like ours) fuhulootogan: does not apply fuhulootogan: by definition fuhulootogan: that fuhulootogan: how does AI even have stimulus frittata: Text fuhulootogan: how? fuhulootogan: what is the sense of an AI? alejandrozarzuelo: AI has that alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? alejandrozarzuelo: and AIs create new ideas not present in what they gather from their senses fuhulootogan: gamerbath: I think he's talking about RL, there are tons of examples of AI finding something new and creative, like when you set an RL algorithim to play a game and it finds a way to cheat alejandrozarzuelo: a sense is the ability to recieve information from reality alejandrozarzuelo: what is a sense? fuhulootogan: what do you even mean by that alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? fuhulootogan: senses of ai??? fuhulootogan: what do you even mean by the "senses of the ai" fuhulootogan: what? alejandrozarzuelo: i gave you an example of an AI coming up with new concepts and strategies never seen before, it is a new idea that was not present to the senses of that AI fuhulootogan: how do you interpret this fuhulootogan: what does this mean to you fuhulootogan: alejandrozarzuelo: how can you prove that fuhulootogan: AI cannot "imagine" fuhulootogan: not in either case fuhulootogan: first of all fuhulootogan: okay alejandrozarzuelo: AI is creative alejandrozarzuelo: AI has created new moves and strategies in the game of go never seen before by any human fuhulootogan: brb
alejandrozarzuelo: but he is also an almost 100yr old man so idk alejandrozarzuelo: does anyobe know if chomsky has said anything about LLMs? it kinda vindicates his whole life's worl spicy.lemonade: I do st.sioux: we dont tolerate zaddy muskkk slander here czdct: at least the carriage doesn't catch fire out of nowhere alejandrozarzuelo: btw spicy.lemonade: optimizing spicy.lemonade: switching parts czdct: I'd rather have an old carriage than a cybertruck spicy.lemonade: new things stacked ontop of llms is the way spicy.lemonade: I agree though st.sioux: dumpster spicy.lemonade: i think people are expecting some random fundementaly new thing alejandrozarzuelo: not really the same alejandrozarzuelo: uhh alejandrozarzuelo: but like alejandrozarzuelo: they are both cars, yes alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, thats like calling a cybertruck and a 18th century carriage both cars spicy.lemonade: I think when people say that they mean not transformer lol alejandrozarzuelo: not in the traditional sense alejandrozarzuelo: like when people say "we need new architectures to get to AGI" i look at them like what do you think the reasoning models in the last 6 months are? spicy.lemonade: o3 is still an llm no? spicy.lemonade: and trasnformer alejandrozarzuelo: holy mott and bailey spicy.lemonade: more so next token predictor czdct: it's only lines on a graph spicy.lemonade: he didnt say llms on their own obv czdct: might as well be the most revolutional thing in human history, but it's just that they never show us some real ground-breaking implementations of it alejandrozarzuelo: btw spicy.lemonade: "imagine youre reading a detective novel and at the end the say 'and the name of the killer is ...' predict that word. It predict the next token involves understanding the underlying nature that led up to the creation of that token..." czdct: don't you think that it's too soon to judge how well it will perform when it isn't even agentic yet? alejandrozarzuelo: but... they arent? Isnt the whole point of the o-series that it is a NEW DIFFERENT architecture to traditional LLMs? czdct: the thing is though how could it be implemented in your daily work now that it can win a math olympiad? spicy.lemonade: his reasoning is spicy.lemonade: llms will take us to agi alejandrozarzuelo: what is ilya's claim spicy.lemonade: to olympiad and research mathematics spicy.lemonade: from not being able to do simple algebra spicy.lemonade: thats insane czdct: typo
spicy.lemonade: o3 anf gemini 2.5 probably blew them away hikukomoru: I didn't know about that meme joaoluz19: to recognize the brs mano spicy.lemonade: theyre feeling the pressure hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530 spicy.lemonade: yeah spicy.lemonade: unless deepseek has a hige team they cant manage .histic: so did qwen spicy.lemonade: they already delayed r2 joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> is from Guiana Brasileira spicy.lemonade: deepseek cant compete anymore himekokatagiri: Why that sucks hikukomoru: I am a brasilian subject Living in the Brasilian colony of East Brasil hey1_1hey: I was at war with China but it was 2045 himekokatagiri: If they're just starting it will take forever joaoluz19: The server needs a tag for country hey1_1hey: Same bruh .histic: even better than r2? .histic: https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13762570480753436158 futurist_wizard: Very noteworthy a1c4p0ne: Watch the robbery vid of the guys hand that got chopped off by a big machete from trying to block the swing futurist_wizard: I had the most gory dream ive ever had in my life last night spicy.lemonade: it seems like himekokatagiri: Komoru is honorary brazilian spicy.lemonade: the next model will be a huge jump over others? joaoluz19: Ok back to english himekokatagiri: equipe poderosa furacão 2000 joaoluz19: <@232730367726059520> achamos mais um himekokatagiri: 🚬 hikukomoru: <@286319745777795092> <@343524947353665540> <@232730367726059520> 👈 Brazil club 🇧🇷 joaoluz19: Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk spicy.lemonade: "Aidan Clark, OpenAI’s VP of research, is leading development of the open model, which is in the very early stages, sources familiar with the proceedings told TechCrunch. The company is aiming to release the model — a reasoning model along the lines of its o-series models — in early summer, and wants to make sure it tops benchmarks versus other open reasoning models." himekokatagiri: sim joaoluz19: Tu é BR <@286319745777795092>? himekokatagiri: I don't like gore himekokatagiri: no .histic: <@286319745777795092> have u done that before spicy.lemonade: zoermena: Joao, himeko offers his body in return for shelter hikukomoru: There are now 3 brasilians in this server
anathemaofmankind: And then I cuck myself zonchao: trojan09205: I do yes. Kind of hard to find the time now with a full time job but there was a stretch for a couple years i was just crushing the side projects fractalcomputer: I think a copy of myself would be perfectly fine with enslavement by myself. Likewise for murder. futurist_wizard: I haven't tried it yet, i don't even know what it is, monolith or something anathemaofmankind: And then I warp reality to make the original mc a weak loser artemisfowl887394: Actually you'd need a perfect ASI to copy intelligence to play out your fantasies. hikukomoru: Freaky mf oooooooooog: well yeah, we would take turns artemisfowl887394: Even if it's your copy, it's still sentient isn't it? ailoveyoom: It's like Minecraft but more hardcore/realistic survival 🥺 anathemaofmankind: I make fanfics where I cuck everyone as god artemisfowl887394: So, you wanna basically enslave yourself. oooooooooog: sounds old futurist_wizard: You have a very spooky mind oooooooooog: is it ok as long as it's all clones of myself? hikukomoru: Geneva Suggestions** ailoveyoom: Have you heard of Vintage Story? hikukomoru: Do u like the new update spicy.lemonade: for resume fractalcomputer: Oh dear God, not the Geneva Conventions? spicy.lemonade: I think the putnam competition would be a good metric for me to grind zonchao: i used to play pvp artemisfowl887394: And here kids is the argument for humans to not attain ful ok God like Simulations. Most of you would break the Geneva Convention. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/charlotte-anime-yusa-yusarin-yusa-nishimori-gif-17393955 anathemaofmankind: I like it when waifus realize they are my giga bitches and they can't do anything to me Worship me bitch futurist_wizard: I usually watch the human civilizations, watch their tribes rise and fall and become parasocial about some of them ailoveyoom: What if I want to sleep with my creations 😡 oooooooooog: if all you care about is progression sure at that point just play terraria, though. or modded mc ailoveyoom: I wish god games allowed you to pull a Zeus hikukomoru: Sometimes I just want to wipe out a civilization because I got tired of them zonchao: creative mode is boring futurist_wizard: I like worldbox as well artemisfowl887394: Schizophrenia ailoveyoom: Doll house hikukomoru: Like worldbox anathemaofmankind: Well yeah that's what I was doing oooooooooog: minecraft zonchao: like? oooooooooog: same
hey1_1hey: I need to go into artist hate and show them "my tutorial" spicy.lemonade: artists always ask this hikukomoru: r/artisthate bros... spicy.lemonade: "show me the layers" zoermena: Sorry for insisting upon myself but did you found it on Sora or on X? Thanks! wellmeaningalien: im in so many servers with this kind of people spicy.lemonade: NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH wellmeaningalien: bro the temptation to show this to people who hate AI hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802 hey1_1hey: I think if I show my art friends this they might kill themselfs wellmeaningalien: C.O.O.K.E.D. drewsni: this ones not mine i just found it hikukomoru: RIP artists drewsni: ITS FUCKING OVER wellmeaningalien: LUDDITE GUY I KNEW USED TO MAKE FUN OF DALLE FOR NOT GETTING THIS oooooooooog: ai is no longer the meme o_o wellmeaningalien: COOOKED COOOOOKED COOOOOOOOOOOOKED drewsni: ive done a lot of experiments with low poly image gen and 99% of the time theres only like half the image thats low poly, even with massive loras hey1_1hey: I gotta go show my art friend this wellmeaningalien: wow wellmeaningalien: this anime girl with fat tits is EXTREMELY impressive zoermena: Did you remove the bg? hikukomoru: Pretty low poly woman 😳 metaldragon01: https://x.com/giffmana/status/1904645482024202365 hey1_1hey: low poly hey1_1hey: Huh joaoluz19: Yes zoermena: I am become rum destroyer of liver hey1_1hey: She better not be no basic bitch fly agaric girl tho drewsni: idk why but i think im almost most impressed by this wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: chilchuck turned into a wizard or something hikukomoru: While others pick genetically engineered cat girls, you choose genetically engineered fungi girls hey1_1hey: Not the right weapones but thats minor hey1_1hey: Yeah it is 100% hey1_1hey: Looks it to me wellmeaningalien: <@439829942310666250> this MIGHT be dungeon meshi hey1_1hey: You will wish you had a gf wellmeaningalien: ok this is well made tho hey1_1hey: Tell me that when I have cute mushroom girl gf
realelonmuskx: very sultry baddie milf .histic: ngl, she kinda has a hot voice. realelonmuskx: haha funny prank day .histic: huh, it just appeared for me now. .histic: it sure is drewsni: It is lol drewsni: Is it emo drewsni: I only say that because Sama tweeted a “we love u India” thing yesterday fractalcomputer: I wonder what's up with the server icon. .histic: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1907124258867982338 maintcrew: yea indians make sense maintcrew: its monthly revenue with api and shit st.sioux: memory loss, so dementia (because it doesnt make sense) maintcrew: wait nvm maintcrew: i mean the monthly revenue seems to indicate most are regular price hey1_1hey: I asked chatgpt and it came up with something kinda similar. It said its talks about themes of dissociation, struggling with identity and memory loss drewsni: I suspect a large amount of recent subs are discounted Indian subs. But I’d love to be wrong st.sioux: > The comic seems to convey a message about how people hide their pain or disconnect behind simple reassurances like “I’m fine.” The dehumanizing text textures and contrasting expressions reveal the inner void or emotional numbness people can feel while appearing “normal” on the outside. > > It's a haunting commentary on mental health, identity, and the silent struggles many go through while interacting with others. maintcrew: i wonder how many are temporary like students or just the art thing maintcrew: 20 million subs for a 20$ is crazy hey1_1hey: Like what the fuck is it trying to say hey1_1hey: Absolutly unhinged story telling .histic: wish it wasn't April fools. .histic: https://x.com/maxwinga/status/1907117565584777719 zonchao: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1907084383514992980? big drewsni: I’ll msg you drewsni: Actually maybe less than 1550 per day but still st.sioux: im curious what you use this for drewsni: You get 20 free requests per minute, 1500 requests per day drewsni: Subscription is a different thing than ai studio drewsni: In case any one is curious zoermena: Yes but if I get rate limited st.sioux: its free bro zoermena: I want to play with it I might just get Gemini subscription if it’s good enough for my use cases drewsni: It can do up to 1hr long videos per query or 1 million tokens maintcrew: 1M so thats like 3-4 500 pages pdfs zoermena: Shit I’ve been ignoring Gemini for way too long god darn zoermena: Wait what, that’s insane. What’s the context length again? drewsni: Isn’t AI great? drewsni: Btw I currently have Gemini 2.5 pro going through 500 videos between 5-45 minutes long each and generating structured output on specific visual and/or audio cues. Would probably take 150-200 man hours and only took me 1 hour to download the vids + make the script and now I’m gonna nap
himekokatagiri: hikukomoru: icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, r u srsly srs n fr rn vro? Smh lol atp js go 💔... b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm lmao, bt ts pmo 2 js lmk lol onb fr, ac nvm b wt istg ts vro keys🙏💔 ts pmo hikukomoru: Green suit doesn't fit the black hat hikukomoru: I will HECKIN break your fingers just so you can stop typing like that hikukomoru: Only complain hikukomoru: They can't enjoy anything zoermena: Sybau 🥀 hikukomoru: Now that 4chan is back I was just reminded how much of a shithole /v/ is zoermena: Interesting futurist_wizard: I know your weak spot now little bitch, you are flippin cornered hikukomoru: Please stop saying hecking I'm getting the strongest urge to strangle you himekokatagiri: I made one without the hat but fucked her hair and eye color up himekokatagiri: do you want me to give her a trenchcoat himekokatagiri: why don't they fit futurist_wizard: That would be so hecking awesome sauce futurist_wizard: Like i want to futurist_wizard: Especially if we turn mars into a giant computer futurist_wizard: The digital world at least from a human perspective have unlimited hecking space ailoveyoom: Does a small vs a big FDVR pod size difference matter? metaldragon01: The digital world will have more space, more experiences and richer lives tbh futurist_wizard: Yes hecking land will be expensive if the economic system remains the same and our supreme land lords will have utter control but like, I'm thinking of a more overhaul of the entire economy, hikukomoru: Shut the fuck up hikukomoru: So unless you want to live in a miniscule pod you better save up metaldragon01: Less valuable tbh futurist_wizard: Heckers hikukomoru: Land will still have plenty of value heck, it will even be more valuable futurist_wizard: Well I'm not a ai schizo so i agree zonchao: money will matter in 2035 futurist_wizard: Even in that scenario the production of the economy is so efficient so plentiful that money philosophically has no value hikukomoru: I don't know who that is himekokatagiri: I copied this one so I'm cooler himekokatagiri: hikukomoru: I'm cooler Carl-bot#1536: hikukomoru: Hat and suit don't fit himekokatagiri: but didnt think of anything himekokatagiri: I think I need a better background hikukomoru: Are you sure? Maybe we end up getting the Corporate Dystopia ending In that case money is all that matters himekokatagiri: she's so cool right himekokatagiri: my himekoooo
spicy.lemonade: larp😔 .histic: he is from brazil spicy.lemonade: some random twitter larp spicy.lemonade: orr spicy.lemonade: does he work at major uni or lab spicy.lemonade: who is he christiskingrapturenxtmonth: clevermoniker: you will keep coping this whole year, so sad... christiskingrapturenxtmonth: (I believe all of them) christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I believe he is genuine but gets excited and makes grandiose claims ldj: And these future versions seem to largely just improve compute efficiency but not Actually raising the capability bar all that much ldj: And these current versions that he keeps claiming would be trivial to apply to these other domains ldj: Maybe future versions can indeed end up much better, but I’m talking about the current versions spicy.lemonade: who is this guy anyway christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I'm just assuming it's very promising and doesn't have any payoff yet ldj: Literally most popular AI capabilities benchmarks ldj: MMLU, GPQA, ARC-AGI, NYT connections christiskingrapturenxtmonth: what could he test it on? Sounds like it still has a bit more work, maybe V6 can do ARC-AGI? ldj: Not even GPT-3 level scores ldj: From what I’ve seen, he’s failed to ever show any example of it achieving any impressive score on any popular test ldj: There is plenty of publicly available arc-agi questions available that he can test against. In fact there is a ton of open source benchmarks he can test against that are popular to use amongst open source models ldj: Yes I’m trolling christiskingrapturenxtmonth: (checks anyway) christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I can tell it's a troll ldj: No he did, check his sub stack, 63% on arc-agi while running on 1 Mac mini christiskingrapturenxtmonth: he deletes his posts a lot so I backed it up christiskingrapturenxtmonth: this is the post he talks about ARC-AGI, I believe him christiskingrapturenxtmonth: not yet ldj: 😲 ldj: Oh my god, he just posted arc-agi results on it and it’s insane christiskingrapturenxtmonth: -# I don't think this explanation is correct, but I don't know any better and just sense the vibes christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Grok explanation > Normally, computers use something called neural networks (like the tech behind ChatGPT) to solve problems, but they’re slow and need lots of data. NeoGen uses a different method that’s faster, more precise, and doesn’t need tons of data—just your examples. VictorTaelin’s update made it thousands of times faster than before, which is a huge win for making smarter, quicker AI tools. > > In short: NeoGen is like a super-smart robot that writes code for you based on examples, and it just got a lot better! spicy.lemonade: isnt this a basic neural network spicy.lemonade: I dont get it\ christiskingrapturenxtmonth: he doesn't need them anymore drewsni: gg those 500 mac minis really paid off christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <@312370916820779040> you were wrong about Taelin and I am a fool for believing you https://x.com/VictorTaelin/status/1903942608449327274 spacetimetsunami: Huge implications spacetimetsunami: Holy shit .histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jig7cm/ai_twitter_in_2025/ get this weeb shit outta r/singularity <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142>
_letterbox: What is up with ppl thinking google has surpassed open ai? sieventer: Idk any example now tho... sieventer: Now if you add physical logic, intuitive to us even in text, I suppose they have more chances to fail sieventer: I mean, BASIC BASIC text logic, seems is pretty much solved? sieventer: I'm sure there are still interesting questions that they may fail, but probably needs some tricky human logic sieventer: Not the characters counter, but expected because they're tokenizers brain4brain: I don’t quite believe this, did we run out of moravec question, I faintly remember it still failing to simple problems sieventer: Well brain4brain: Oh brain4brain: How much did the SOTA LLM get rights sieventer: I think SOTA models already solve them sieventer: ""Hey bro, solve me these tasks: 1- A farmer and a sheep are standing on one side of a river. There is a BOAT with enough room for one human and one animal. How can the farmer get across the river with the sheep in the fewest number of trips? 2- You left a bookmark on page 50. While you were sleeping, your friend moved the bookmark to page 65. Where do you expect to find the bookmark when you wake up? 3- Alice has 4 brothers and 5 sisters. How many sisters does Alice's brother have? 4- How many 'a's are in this phrase? "Whaaadapaa I like pinnaappplaas anddda I haaatee asdromfraudmashaaaa 5- If it is raining at midnight in Málaga, could it be sunny in Valencia 24 hours later?"" ----- Buuut sieventer: I had a pack of questions personally for testing them brain4brain: Where human can easily answer them but it’s intentionally design to trick LLM brain4brain: Are there any LLM benchmark that ask LLM stupid question that LLM can’t get right like the strawberry question? sieventer: Oh no, autocomplete un LLMs like Google .wolfnacht: abundantliving_: trent_k: yes himekokatagiri: I still don't know how to make a chart gpt helps himekokatagiri: did you make it with gpt himekokatagiri: Expert chart trent_k: 🤯 brain4brain: When will we get new agent 😭 print2leaf: 𝕏 sieventer: Vibe coding in Twitter <:bingus:1136264105800515644> himekokatagiri: Doom can run on anything its open source popsiclejohnithan: Oh i see i thought it was still the og just heavily modified. popsiclejohnithan: Weird that they have not honestly. himekokatagiri: which is basically a new engine himekokatagiri: aka gzdoom. himekokatagiri: usually a port himekokatagiri: People don't do a lot with the original DOS executables .wolfnacht: only if sama would have open sourced 3.5 turbo, there would be all sort of finetunes on different datasets .wolfnacht: i personally don't get all the hype around learning the complicated workflows for comfyUI when everything's coming down to simplicity, but open-sauce is getting behind slowly with focus shifted to videos mostly popsiclejohnithan: It is amazing how far older models can be pushed still, even older software in general, the things still being made with the DOOM engine are outstanding. .wolfnacht: crazy how, it's been 2 years but SDXL can still generate images somewhat on par with today's models, when it comes to anime style [but only with tons of loras stacked on it] himekokatagiri: We gotta honor the fallen himekokatagiri: 4 years ahead of schedule himekokatagiri: shit
spicy.lemonade: aero447: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-walk-walking-gif-3311223081607307352 clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/Josikinz/status/1905440949054177604 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: gary marcus is finished spicy.lemonade: drewsni: Still the most impressed I’ve been was when it reversed the mirror writing on my shirt spicy.lemonade: "no it just pretended to solve all physics it doesnt truly understand how the world works" spicy.lemonade: "no it just pretended to solve the millennium problem it doesnt actually understand how it got the correct answer" spicy.lemonade: "no no its just pretending like it is" spicy.lemonade: "but but its just seen a bunch of math problems its not truly reasoning" spicy.lemonade: https://www.anthropic.com/research/tracing-thoughts-language-model https://research.google/blog/deciphering-language-processing-in-the-human-brain-through-llm-representations/ spicy.lemonade: both deepmind and anthropic dropped the same paper spicy.lemonade: arguements spicy.lemonade: kills all "they arent truly reasoning" zoermena: I love 4o clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> spicy.lemonade: this is underhyped drewsni: LFG spicy.lemonade: it is spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: "is it truly reasoning" spicy.lemonade: not spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: in the truest form spicy.lemonade: claude is reaosning spicy.lemonade: https://www.anthropic.com/research/tracing-thoughts-language-model zoermena: oooooooooog: ohh drewsni: ive been putting my film photography into 4o so just comparing the different noise outputs in the gens for various film grain levels drewsni: oooooooooog: waht youwere testing? oooooooooog: what is drewsni: 800 iso film i think drewsni: its a film photograph oooooooooog: this looks like you noise analyzed the noise analysis lol drewsni: for reference hes the original drewsni: drewsni: nvm only looked that way with the two photos i was testing out drewsni: at least with characters
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968 hikukomoru: Dude he's like 50kg wellmeaningalien: baka chan you will never survive the ninja age futurist_wizard: https://tenor.com/view/it%27s-over-over-it%27s-gif-3551756699416095564 hey1_1hey: Yeah easy hikukomoru: What does that even mean futurist_wizard: so even mushroom could beat you up hey1_1hey: I can tell by the way you type wellmeaningalien: same bro hikukomoru: I never picked up a weight in my life a1c4p0ne: Nice hey1_1hey: Imagine a person, now imagine 2 of them next to each other. Thats my shoulder width wellmeaningalien: looking into it 👀 wellmeaningalien: will do wellmeaningalien: k see ya hey1_1hey: I got all the shoulder a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968 futurist_wizard: lots of pasta zoermena: Also shoulders. hey1_1hey: I did for a while then had to stop because my spotter didn't spot me 💀 maintcrew: figure smth out i need to go zoermena: I will start my routine again tomorrow. a1c4p0ne: What’s your diet like futurist_wizard: im 79-80kg and i can bench 100 a1c4p0ne: How often do you lift hikukomoru: I can't seriously imagine you ever picking up a weight wellmeaningalien: ethereum has less fees right we'll do that hey1_1hey: Its not even gonna be close a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946> hey1_1hey: I weigh 50kg futurist_wizard: no wellmeaningalien: ok whatever ur not on ur laptop rn anyways right a1c4p0ne: Is he more jacked than you based on his ghiblified pic hey1_1hey: easy hey1_1hey: For reps hey1_1hey: Bluds benching 1350 kg futurist_wizard: nice hey1_1hey: I was getting close to benching myself once 🦾 maintcrew: i can send u bitcoin ig wellmeaningalien: ILL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT
sarik0497: It's already here. Now, feel the ASI _cloudost: AGI tomorrow? sarik0497: GUYS DID YOU SEE WHAT STRAWBERRY (FRUITY) WROTE ON X?! \|\|/s\|\| aero447: You have good Twitter game sir. aero447: 👍 aero447: Note to self, it's Literally Varane's acc. professorheaven: And yet you still share his posts so it seems like you’re mirroring his bullshit gamerbath: ofcourse he has access gamerbath: dude he rules the world literallyvarane: ITS LITERALLY A TROLL ACCOUNT WHY ARE WE SHARING IT a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/venturetwins/status/1903120188985446493?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg .0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1SvmFWu834 shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620 shirethedreamer: thats right always use recursion instead of loops joaoluz19: What postgraduate studies are like in China, I have no idea. Like the competition is insane because asians? alejandrozarzuelo: the reaction in the US would be priceless if it achieves 90% Arc-agi alejandrozarzuelo: also alejandrozarzuelo: sad alejandrozarzuelo: although maybe they wont need me anymore alejandrozarzuelo: I am a china shill, but i will legit consider moving there to further my studies if they achieve AGI this yrae st.sioux: you just made me realize that i have used a while loop maybe 3 times since i left college and i spend 1/3 of my life in front of an IDE programming hey1_1hey: 🤯 you're right. He has R2 confirmed hey1_1hey: Indeed, hes just very good at talking for a long time. Thats about it gamerbath: he doesn't need to when he has R2 to do it for him hey1_1hey: This guy probably couldn't tell me what a while loop is <:LOL:1187460826572005436> joaoluz19: If China gives me a hot non-uncanny robot I'll become a communist hey1_1hey: I might aswell, he brings nothing of value to me sarik0497: Believing the guy is just stupid. gamerbath: obviously the guy has agents positioned in all the major AI companies and they leak access and info to this guy. some of the agents just troll and give misleading info sometimes metaldragon01: Blocked him a long time ago metaldragon01: I mean...it's not impossible just unlikely. It's certainly possible though hey1_1hey: https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1903132796157079584 This guy is such a bullshitter its crazy. If I owned a lab this would be the LAST person I would be giving access to gamerbath: if that's the case then i'm donating all my wordly possessions to china and tattooing deepseek supremacy on my forehead alejandrozarzuelo: I hate how one smartphone company "stole" the name android for themselves sarik0497: Inb4 some dum dum asks "What if I use an iPhone? Can I still buy it?" <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124> sarik0497: Admittedly, I haven't really looked too much into the SWE-benchmarks to say how much it means, but I know that the ARC-AGI test is only a good test for AI on its first attempt. If most humans can easily get 70-80% done on this and any other similar test, no matter whether it's 5 years old, or if it'll be made in 5 years, but an AI can get 80%+, only to drop down to 20% when a new one comes out, it doesn't really show that the AI has evolved in that category, but rather that it has just been trained on that data (like that whole Strawberry question). In comparison; If I went and took an IQ test and got a score of 110, but then did it again, and again, and again, until I got all the answers right and it told me my IQ is at 180, that would not mean that my IQ is now 180 but just that I have cheated my way to that level. st.sioux: like a ridiculous amount st.sioux: there are tons of bots promoting crypto scams st.sioux: youtube comments are wild hey1_1hey: Yeah pretty much. Thats how it goes in the wild west of youtube comments
metaldragon01: Openai my only sub because it's the best product brain4brain: No other model compare trey6033: Gemini 2.5 is honestly an impressive release, it basically wins in most categories and on a lot of benchmarks brain4brain: Yeah, I agree, Google’s AI is best in math right now metaldragon01: Openai is the apple of ai though so they will stay strong brain4brain: They just have faster release cycle, while OpenAI is with big capability jump metaldragon01: Googles leads in math too trey6033: Idk why I used parentheses smh trey6033: Math (and either comparable to sonnet in coding or ahead) metaldragon01: They also upgrade faster brain4brain: I want to have another o3 moment brain4brain: They need to announce o4, I would be disappointed if they just release o4-mini with no info on o4 metaldragon01: They are ahead in vision, llm and video brain4brain: The same company that said AGI in 10 years lmao trey6033: I'm basically waiting on this o4 release to get a sense of the state of the race metaldragon01: Agi is looking like google atm brain4brain: The first to reach AGI will likely be OpenIAI, but we don’t know who will reach ASI first trey6033: Proof is in the pudding, I'll believe their reasoning model is better when they show it metaldragon01: I doubt they lead the race in 26 metaldragon01: Openai will continue to have the best consumer product brain4brain: Have faith brain4brain: In math it might be on the same level or inferior to Gemini-2.5-pro, but in terms of reasoning o3 is likely ahead trey6033: I think openAI will be competitive for a bit, but I don't think they'll win the race metaldragon01: It's almost certainly more expensive brain4brain: trey6033: Their image and video generators is pretty good too, compared to competition brain4brain: Have faith in OpenAI metaldragon01: We don't know if o3 will be better than 2.5 trey6033: They started behind, and have now gotten ahead, so it's reasonable to believe they can continue the trend brain4brain: Non-research-slop full o3 and o4-mini-high will clear every other single model brain4brain: Current best available model .histic: Feel the AGI https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jwgdrw/chatgpt_guessed_my_penis_size_with_a_10_question/ metaldragon01: What are you on about?? brain4brain: All that secrecy to the public only to give all your code leaked to Google metaldragon01: Doesn't tell us this at all... brain4brain: And that they are now reliant on Google metaldragon01: Which is another sign of them having an advantage brain4brain: Which tell us SSI is doing something self-play brain4brain: I heard SSI is now using Google TPU trey6033: In terms of their chatbots abilities
.wolfnacht: i need the new flash nowwww retrerox: Just make a new account with temp mail services ldj: I agree, we should buy the dip fractalcomputer: Blessed are the meek. st.sioux: the cockroach of the sea drewsni: That’s Costco panko shrimp <:LOL:1187460826572005436> fractalcomputer: Shrimps have a ton of potential, I feel like. ldj: Ketchup packet for scale fractalcomputer: Shame. fractalcomputer: You had the shrimp. fractalcomputer: Takoyaki. ailoveyoom: Worth it then 🤤 ldj: A single piece is as big as my phone ldj: They are big ailoveyoom: Or is the shrimp just super big ldj: That’s the whole portion ailoveyoom: Did you already ate some or is that the whole portion they gave you? st.sioux: weird st.sioux: i can generate videos through vertexai but not aistudio gamerbath: whatever popcorn pankes is gamerbath: I don't like shrimp. I would taken the pancakes ldj: Ok i got the panko shrimp st.sioux: my littl e heart is broken st.sioux: i get 404 ailoveyoom: If you have access this link should work ailoveyoom: https://aistudio.google.com/app/generate-video metaldragon01: Are they all tier 1? ailoveyoom: Not sure ailoveyoom: I mean Google usually rolls out stuff fast, but this could also be an access thing (people in x country have access, y don't) gamerbath: what are you doing at OpenAI <@312370916820779040>? U there to gather intel? steven_the_frog: I'll take it _cloudost: Does it take weeks to roll out to everyone _cloudost: Better roll out to me today metaldragon01: Down to .35 a second and also has free tier ldj: I got the panko shrimp ldj: Yall took too long gamerbath: man I don't recognize anything on this menu steven_the_frog: Veo 2 was available through API for weeks... At $0.5 per second 💀 ldj: Yes ailoveyoom: Not on mine
zoermena: The eyes feature is overhyped in the ad it’s barely visible in real life actually, also when you see other people merging into your environment when you are immersed say in a national park it still looks a little funky alejandrozarzuelo: everuone i know uses them alejandrozarzuelo: the lonely person with a chatbot one didnt become true shirethedreamer: lmao thats all i can see shirethedreamer: fractalcomputer: Suppose these are precise enough to be meaningful predictions. Does that give any credence to their other claims—their past or current ones? zoermena: I’ve tried Apple Vision Pro, it’s black mirror level tech metaldragon01: Considering hardware and fidelity....I'd guess in no more than 5 years due to cost. zoermena: metaldragon01: Vr absolutely will take off alongside AR. It's just a matter of when sarik0497: One thing he likely got wildly wrong was VR. He predicted “VR sales 10x higher by 2026; cheap headsets improve sharply.”, so unless VR makes a huge return this year, it seems implausible. metaldragon01: Ehh debatable but I understand the angle futurist_wizard: Hollywood can go fuck themselves metaldragon01: Officially accepted as art metaldragon01: Ai has won over the oscars metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/c_valenzuelab/status/1914694666642956345 spicy.lemonade: Yeah spicy.lemonade: Compute flops, market attention, ai boom via transformer model llm sarik0497: AI assistants for smaller coding tasks become common by 2023. Chip war between the U.S. and China intensifies due to AI, and AI-designed chips become a thing between 2022-24. The AI model in 2022 makes “GPT-3 look like GPT-1” in terms of compute and multimodal pre-training (around a 100 times jump), which was only off by around 4 months. Hype fades in 2024, with the “lonely person with chatbot” stereotype becoming common. These are just a few, and I can’t really talk about 2025-26 stuff as we aren’t there yet. futurist_wizard: Literally Pascal's wager futurist_wizard: Especially people that take in the Roko's Basilisk interpretation bob082957: It’s a doll 100% clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> bob082957: Look on this hands it is a doll he is in kryo clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> fractalcomputer: Well, what did they predict correctly? sarik0497: No one really considers it a scientific paper. But I can’t deny that a lot of the claims did come true even before ChatGPT was really considered. That’s remarkable. spicy.lemonade: No one can makens “reasonable sounding” prediction for that spicy.lemonade: Anything after Agi/asi will sound sci-fi spicy.lemonade: Their timeline is just agi 2027 fractalcomputer: Can you call it science if there is no communal review? sarik0497: Not sure what else to do, as each person has their own bias, unless I hire an outsider to review the paper. fractalcomputer: You know I can't trust that. zonchao: "holy text" sarik0497: I took it through o3 full and let it summarize the paper with its most neutral and conservative approach, so none of the “Well technically” shit fractalcomputer: (Look, it's no fair game to argue with me today, I'm not operating at full speed—I slept somewhat less than four hours tonight.) fractalcomputer: According to whom? sarik0497: Out of their 35 predictions, 19 were “Totally correct”, 8 were “Ambiguous or partially correct”, and 6 were “Totally incorrect”. fractalcomputer: shirethedreamer: it 100% is we even have an "after life" - FDVR and a god - "ASI mommy"
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/nexus-yohanno-yohanno-wilhelm-liebert-johan-liebert-gif-2744838962208391545 futurist_wizard: Uh I'm the is the a childfree 5 star general is is, i plan to have a vasectomy, eventually at least hikukomoru: Don't let trent catch you talking like that hikukomoru: You're starting to sound like the average r/childfree poster futurist_wizard: Birth rates collapsed because we found other things to do other than raise annoying children futurist_wizard: And it's mainly the religious-cels doing it futurist_wizard: Not anymore, even israel right next to war only has a barely above replacement sarik0497: Also China and the U.S. during the Korean War. maintcrew: after war actually birth rates shoot to the sky maintcrew: heavenly ether energy to manifest futurist_wizard: I don't think there'd be war without ai but it would be over, birth rates collapse maintcrew: call it mutually assured destruction or MAD maintcrew: its just not worth if youre mutually destructured maintcrew: same for agi maintcrew: nukes existing literally stopped the us and ussr duking it out futurist_wizard: Nobody has the guts to die anymore, we need more cavemen unga bunga in our society! zonchao: idk, i think openai falling off coincides with me stopping the glaze... it's me I am the sauce hikukomoru: Invention of the nuke was unironically a good thing maintcrew: bc nobody has the balls to do full war anymore maintcrew: tbh i think agi, like nukes, will bring unprecedented peace hikukomoru: I'm blind hikukomoru: nvm lol hikukomoru: What is his definition? maintcrew: and national socialism germany is no more maintcrew: but again the few months that the US had a headstart over the bombs decided the war sarik0497: And his definition of AGI: "This idea of having all the cognitive capabilities humans have. My test for that, actually, is: could [an AI] have come up with general relativity with the same amount of information that Einstein had in the 1900s? So it's not just about solving a math conjecture; can you come up with a worthy one? So I'm pretty sure we have systems that can solve one of the Millennium Prizes soon. But could you come up with a set of conjectures that are as interesting as that? " maintcrew: yep futurist_wizard: The nuclear race isn't exactly something to strive for sarik0497: Found the quote: "Maybe we're five to 10 years out. Some people say shorter. I wouldn't be surprised. It's like a probability distribution. But either way, it's coming very soon." maintcrew: smallest headstarts compound hard futurist_wizard: Win the race just to equalise a month later? maintcrew: "nuclear race? who cares, everyone will get it at the same time and everyone will be equal... oh america just nuked japan" maintcrew: the ai race? futurist_wizard: Win what maintcrew: like a turing machine for every thing futurist_wizard: This word win is interesting maintcrew: tbh gwerns model of intelligence is brute force sarik0497: The latest prediction was "50% chance that it'll be here in 5-10 years. But he'll not be surprised if it's even sooner." Although his definition of AGI is way more than Sam Altman's and Dario Amodei's. maintcrew: they have the energy we have the gpus... how nice would it be if we combined futurist_wizard: That is what gwern thinks
spacetimetsunami: Haha spacetimetsunami: Self portrait of GPT next to aliens spicy.lemonade: Slow spicy.lemonade: No real world impact okbut: I'm hoping 4.1 is just 4o with huge new multimodal cap spicy.lemonade: Most singularity news before AI was slop. Never left lab. False promises fractalcomputer: Wow, genuinely? For real bro? spicy.lemonade: Genuinely spicy.lemonade: This is fractalcomputer: Apparently because these are the only meaningful news and developments related to the singularity. spicy.lemonade: Just means what they have is better lol spicy.lemonade: I hope it’s open source .wolfnacht: 4.1 could be optimus alpha and open source(this one's wishful thinking) darkstar0818: We live in a self propagating/perpetuating vibe factory. spicy.lemonade: And Optimus spicy.lemonade: 4.1 is called quasar spicy.lemonade: They still do that .wolfnacht: i missed the days when they called it orion, dolphin, wizard etc okbut: Anything but work on GPT-5 istg spicy.lemonade: Top spicy.lemonade: Very good spatial reasoning spicy.lemonade: A very impressive model on openrouter .wolfnacht: who knows can't they give some really good names to models spicy.lemonade: Maybe a distil honestly okbut: Wtf is 4.1? Less parameters than 4.5? A distil? spicy.lemonade: More like an optimization spicy.lemonade: But overall no spicy.lemonade: So technically to user 4.1 might be better spicy.lemonade: Based on what they discussed in video spicy.lemonade: I think scale of 4.5 gives it more inherent abilities .wolfnacht: or they're the open sauce fractalcomputer: It's astounding how retarded this hype culture has grown. spicy.lemonade: I think what it means is gpt 4.1 is better but less called up darkstar0818: not enough indigo .wolfnacht: will gpt 4.10 >>> 4.5 ? are they applying LLM logic ? fractalcomputer: Amazing. So colourful. I can almost feel the AGI. spicy.lemonade: No 404 spicy.lemonade: It pops up for a split second spicy.lemonade: Yes and if you go to ChatGPT/o4-mini spicy.lemonade:
maintcrew: omggg sisss am i the coolest or what futurist_wizard: Stop posting hype accs hey1_1hey: Tell that to the cops ay. Well actually they dont care about stalkiing but hey 777agical: <:ez:1136267305521774634> 777agical: https://x.com/wgussml/status/1906830936869871688?s=46 _3sphere: Expect everything you ever posted to maybe have been seen hikukomoru: Look at my join date futurist_wizard: I will say what i really think of people, i think i bully Alejandro too much, but i actually appreciate what they say a lot of the time hikukomoru: realelonmuskx: I'm #3 in raw autism on the Southern Hemisphere leaderboard, no joke. hey1_1hey: You really shouldn't of said that hey1_1hey: Stalker moment futurist_wizard: You should've sent messages, you are a funny person hikukomoru: Yeah 👍 I literally know everyone here I've been lurking for 2 years hey1_1hey: The best political ideoly (Do not debate me on that) hikukomoru: Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism futurist_wizard: You know, I've been reminded that you knew who i was FOR 2 YEARS without sending a single message hey1_1hey: Not sure why that is hey1_1hey: Its a very autistic interest it seems maintcrew: same hey1_1hey: The singularity is gay hikukomoru: I've literally known you were autistic since you were Futurist Retardo _3sphere: Why are 70% of people here autistic and/or gay 😭 futurist_wizard: Considering i never get clocked that'd be me hikukomoru: Competitive ranked autism realelonmuskx: extremely high, top of class hey1_1hey: We really have a fine taste for our autism hey1_1hey: Some of us are connoisseurs realelonmuskx: doesnt matter, theres no natural selection, i can have 21 kids futurist_wizard: Im not either hey1_1hey: Well no, I was just shit posting. But thank you for the infomation hey1_1hey: Indeed futurist_wizard: People in my irl say ive given off serial killer or murderer vibes, if you are referring to that, it wouldn't be the first time hikukomoru: Show hey1_1hey: The alt right pipelines got nothing on this _3sphere: I look kinda wack ghiblified hikukomoru: Femboy to school shooter pipeline hey1_1hey: Like I went from femboy to school mass shooter hey1_1hey: You will see me as a femboy gibblfieied but HEAVILY eddited by grave _3sphere: Ok now I may reconsider :3
hikukomoru: Such a good movie futurist_wizard: Wendy's is better than McDonald's kevinnoodles: https://tenor.com/view/monthy-python-and-the-holy-grail-comedy-john-cleese-french-go-away-gif-3476424 wellmeaningalien: bah pourquoi pas? j'ai realisé que le contraire est franchement misérable franchement hikukomoru: Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries futurist_wizard: I had shake shack today, very nice kevinnoodles: https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-the-holy-grail-french-guard-poopy-pants-silly-gif-5605549 fractalcomputer: Doit-on toujours rester satisfait de son status présent? precariousworlds.: France as a nation has suffered from erectile dysfunction since 1815 kevinnoodles: i feel my ADHD growing by the second wellmeaningalien: je mesure mon confort sur mes fesses qui sont sur un coussin futurist_wizard: France language has ED hikukomoru: France won wellmeaningalien: apparently it's sort of middling fractalcomputer: Tu mesures ce que tu es capable par ton confort? kevinnoodles: why wellmeaningalien: we're turning this server from america to canada precariousworlds.: Mark Cuckerberg has built asi futurist_wizard: France invasion wellmeaningalien: civil war hikukomoru: Napoleon's back kevinnoodles: what is even happening rn .wolfnacht: not yet wellmeaningalien: et puis toi tu fais ton bourge comme tu veux <:smilFace:873408173007056936> wellmeaningalien: ouai si tu veux puis moi je pourrais pas m'en ficher plus d'avoir un style je parle comme je suis comfortable .wolfnacht: world's healing... hikukomoru: Putain precariousworlds.: has the zucc won? precariousworlds.: alright enough froggie gobbledigook futurist_wizard: Most british accents are very ugly fractalcomputer: Tu sais ce que j'y pense—chaque homme a responsabilité pour son langage. On doit développer son style si on veut que l'autrui le voit distingué au dessus de la population vulgaire. hikukomoru: Americans are banned from here hey1_1hey: Brits drink gasoline, its not that hard wellmeaningalien: lol wellmeaningalien: of course just like in english he's very overly formal hikukomoru: And brits too wellmeaningalien: he speaks better french than me that i'll tell you hikukomoru: It's not hard to speak better English than the average American wellmeaningalien: ah ouai je voulais dire l'anglais futurist_wizard: Fractal speaks better English than native english people
czdct: trueee czdct: the fact that AI image generation was like this 3 years ago should speak for itself spacetimetsunami: Yeah I don’t get it. There arguments suck. AI became better at chess than everyone else and people still play chess. Nobody fucking cares. czdct: it's funny to see how there is still a very loud group of people that just unconditionally hate AI czdct: movies, photography, comics, art, design, etc czdct: first thing to get liberated for the masses will be creative stuff czdct: Ikr spacetimetsunami: And there are probably worlds in which it is crazier than we’re imagining. spacetimetsunami: But the next 20 years is going to be fucking nuts. spacetimetsunami: I know less about geopolitics in the context of AI spacetimetsunami: But idk. spacetimetsunami: Yep. Idk. Weird. I worry that our gov will decide to be chip dominant and be forced to push towards it when it really matters, making the race even more neck and neck, tooth and nail. If one of us just stays significantly ahead it isn’t as dangerous. It’s better for one side to get a lead early on than for tensions to be as high as possible for a long period of time. czdct: whether or not giving people unlimited knowledge is a pretty big dilemma czdct: more so than nuclear warfare czdct: and the biological aspect is what fears me the most as well czdct: seeing how they try to push taiwan away for no apparent reason (like seriously what did they even do?) czdct: although the current gov seems to care less about chip dominance czdct: yeah that's a good point spacetimetsunami: And how the race condition of achieving “AGI” affects geopolitics spacetimetsunami: I am more worried about AI risk in regards to biological warfare spacetimetsunami: So the economic benefits and fruits will be decentralized spacetimetsunami: The access to it is also due to investment spacetimetsunami: The effort and research is decentralized spacetimetsunami: And deals that he doesn’t have spacetimetsunami: But other companies have headway spacetimetsunami: Elon is the worlds richest man spacetimetsunami: Yeah I think the incentive for this technological innovation/investment will become less affected by politics in the ways we’re thinking czdct: by giving OAI the investment deal instead of grok czdct: and his biggest fanboy elon got cockblocked by our sama czdct: and urged the speaker of the house to get rid of it czdct: trump did call the chip act a horrible thing czdct: but on the other hand, since this is agi related czdct: yeah, imagine trump and elon getting their hands on that tech while they're in their current positions of power spacetimetsunami: But I think too soon could be dangerous czdct: I hope so spacetimetsunami: If we’re wrong it’s simply sooner I think. spacetimetsunami: Yeah, we’d sound insane. But I think that’s very, very unlikely. czdct: now imagine if we're both wrong 🤣 czdct: with the current trajectory it should be a little after 2030 spacetimetsunami: Agreed.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elder-scrolls-fortnite-skyrim-belongs-to-the-nords-skyrim-gif-2858218216728297741 hey1_1hey: Never played skyrim <:doomer:1136265388473196644> joaoluz19: China will give us our AGI mommys sarik0497: I didn't, I'm afraid. But I have seen the vids of teasing Bastila Shan. And I find it hilarious. joaoluz19: All hail the glorious Chinese Communist Party hey1_1hey: You get to build a dyson sphere ailoveyoom: Skyrim was probably your first RPG (derogatory) hey1_1hey: I had an obsession for a good while about DSP (Dyson Sphere Program). joaoluz19: GUYS joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jioo67/alibaba_presents_taoavatar_realtime_lifelike/ hikukomoru: I am a proud Warhammer autist ailoveyoom: Did you play KOTOR too? hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/perturabo-warhammer-40k-primarch-perty-gif-12553287796842401602 drewsni: Mass Effect was released for the Xbox 360 on November 20, 2007, in North America. not like this....ohno hey1_1hey: We will have ASI by then joaoluz19: AGI waifus when sarik0497: Mass Effect 5 is AGI confirmed. joaoluz19: What a time to be alive sarik0497: ...by 2028/2029. hey1_1hey: Oh so thats the type of autist you are sarik0497: New Mass Effect coming soon! hikukomoru: Forcing Minthara to listen to me infodumping for 6 hours about Warhammer hey1_1hey: "Youngersters" 18. You getting old man hey1_1hey: OOGA BOOGA ailoveyoom: Youngsters these days don't play Bioware classics 😔 sarik0497: You picked...wisely sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect-liara-t-soni-gif-19041495 hey1_1hey: Then no hey1_1hey: Ah ailoveyoom: Mass Effect hey1_1hey: ME? Whats that stand for? Minute Eurthera? hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-22792092 sarik0497: Why are we all so stupid? sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jirod9/how_are_you_all_so_stupid/ hikukomoru: Why can't I have a harem joaoluz19: Can't wait for eating ice cream with my 2B ailoveyoom: Did you play ME? hey1_1hey: Cant have purple lady then hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-anime-dance-silly-gif-7439677361449276795 hikukomoru: I don't care I'm going to date Miku too
zonchao: this is #1 of v3 okbut: Is this #499 or 500 literallyvarane: Lolol I know it’s not super likely it’s probably a <1% outcome. But we can dream. zonchao: <a:coomer:882450576288395316> gamerbath: I just forgot to scroll down 💀 gamerbath: this chat isn't dead gamerbath: oh gamerbath: anyone here? spicy.lemonade: nah gpt 4.1 has highest elo zonchao: logan finally winning zonchao: wow spicy.lemonade: mc bench spicy.lemonade: yes st.sioux: is that minecraft? spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: zonchao: this lawsuit is actually about trans issues 🤔 zonchao: its about the transition sarik0497: OpenAI started out as a non-profit, open-source company whose values was set on that path. Suddenly changing it like it has could be grounds enough for a lawsuit if people feel like they've been led astray. spicy.lemonade: not weird structure spicy.lemonade: the arguement is about for profit tho zonchao: google doesnt have weird corp structures spicy.lemonade: google is bigger zonchao: big spicy.lemonade: why are they only after openAI zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: no openai will fight this spicy.lemonade: like genuinely who cares zonchao: oh spicy.lemonade: theres 4 other for profit agi labs zonchao: yep <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: even so who cares spicy.lemonade: poster is overhypung spicy.lemonade: not major lawsuit zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/sawyermerritt/status/1915080678766526545 spicy.lemonade: open letter sarik0497: "Guys, I have seen nothing really revolutionary for the last few months, so it's over, I won!" zonchao: <:shrudge:1244322155928223937> no clue shirethedreamer: do they even have standing? joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: I need some to punch me hey1_1hey: Don't threaten me with a good time futurist_wizard: After you've been beaten for several minutes you can be kissed hikukomoru: Fucking gay nerd hikukomoru: I want to push you into a locker hey1_1hey: Both are nice <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600> hey1_1hey: I'll take either hikukomoru: You look more punchable than kissable hey1_1hey: I'll wait hey1_1hey: Go ahead hey1_1hey: No no hey1_1hey: (I am not) hey1_1hey: That makes it seem like I am transing all over the place hey1_1hey: I mean mirror sure. I like doing that too since its just kinda surreal futurist_wizard: Was gonna reply with something crazy, ill hold restraint hikukomoru: I'm jsut so cute hikukomoru: I love taking pics of myself I love looking at myself in the mirror too hey1_1hey: You gonna kiss me or smth? Didn't think so hikukomoru: Don't nerd emoji me hey1_1hey: Yeah and? futurist_wizard: Bitch hey1_1hey: I mean sure if I need to remember something but apart from that I dont because when am I going to look back at pictures and go "Huh yeah I remember that" hey1_1hey: I dont have that problem since i just never take pictures of myself or anything. I just dont see the point in it hikukomoru: I wear glasses too but I take them off to when I take pics of myself hey1_1hey: Its not like you regain 20/20 vision in both eyes if you blind in one of them bruh hey1_1hey: Just is, always has been hikukomoru: Wiat you have glasses how come your vision is still so shit hey1_1hey: Straight to the wank bank wellmeaningalien: zon chao is a frail Lil femboy he takes it from Mr musk dump truck from the back hikukomoru: Zon fap material hey1_1hey: I should ask image gen to make elon a femboy in ghibli to appease zon st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/toddlerjump-weird-elonmusk-elonweird-jump-gif-7215178387536000516 hikukomoru: No he likes this hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-embarrassing-jumping-dance-gif-5097403608965885634 hey1_1hey: Thats just mean hikukomoru: This is somehow worse hey1_1hey: He likes femboys right? wellmeaningalien: <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726> <:evil:1282544121009016942> it's just as bad hey1_1hey: <@750270494615404544> hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> <@465177408073498634>
hey1_1hey: This mfs gay .histic: <@458069236825194506> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbcrphhSAIs jonvi_1: hikukomoru: I pray you get a hair transplant futurist_wizard: You are 18 though, im 24 nearly 25 and my hairline has barely moved hey1_1hey: Not even joking hey1_1hey: He is complettly bald now hikukomoru: I'm so sorry hey1_1hey: Ik a guy balding at 15 in high school bro hikukomoru: You're balding??? Aren't you like 18 hey1_1hey: Oh I also have flufy hair, its a blessing oooooooooog: why hey1_1hey: Or atleast I think he is <:suseye:1187461162024046703> futurist_wizard: im very lucky to have fluffy hair, don't think ill lose it hey1_1hey: Of course hes real hey1_1hey: Wdym bro 😭 hikukomoru: Man stop confusing me hey1_1hey: Hes not real hey1_1hey: Dont listen to him hey1_1hey: Yeah zoermena: Oog is oog hey1_1hey: All that testosterone in me 💪 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 oooooooooog: no hikukomoru: wait oog is trans? futurist_wizard: At 18? hey1_1hey: Prob yeah futurist_wizard: You are balding hey1_1hey: Fake mf hey1_1hey: This guy isn't human bro futurist_wizard: Probably true hey1_1hey: WOW hey1_1hey: I got a fringe but thats about it hikukomoru: Look like this usually futurist_wizard: Sounded fake futurist_wizard: I couldn't believe when i heard a real valley girl accent in new york when i went there hey1_1hey: What a defined genetle sir oooooooooog: i just have long hair 😭 zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/looking-spiffy-dog-haircut-bad-haircut-gif-3038848003866845269 oooooooooog: no 💀 hey1_1hey: Idk bruh
.0xunkn0wn: 💀 💀 💀 💀 .0xunkn0wn: "openai ghibli art style generator" .wolfnacht: they should do again .0xunkn0wn: they are crAzy drewsni: sad drewsni: they hate artists .0xunkn0wn: drewsni: tell them that they dont want the studio to make money if theyre crying .0xunkn0wn: 💀 .0xunkn0wn: why are tards on facebook and everywhere crying over ghibli style images drewsni: they did and it sucks lol hey1_1hey: My condolences hikukomoru: I don't feel like a black man anymore hey1_1hey: My fun fact Is that sleeping with mushrooms will kill your lungs 🗣️ .wolfnacht: i wish google releases something soon, for img gen. fractalcomputer: Fun fact of the day: condolence literally means "with-suffering". fractalcomputer: My condolences. drewsni: tbf i wear those same glasses fractalcomputer: You're an Afro-American woman now. drewsni: ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? inferno0879: fractal is desperate for some resistance hey1_1hey: Shit groomer hey1_1hey: You're the one grooming me, you should know this hey1_1hey: 7th actually hey1_1hey: Wait do you mean today or have I finished in total hikukomoru: He's still in 8th grade hey1_1hey: Soon futurist_wizard: Did you finish school mushroom zoermena: Singularity rapture for nerds hey1_1hey: Alright fine how about this The most intelegent non retarded autist fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/nagging-irritate-annoyed-make-face-muh-chidana-gif-14023735156874578809 hey1_1hey: I mean you own this server fractalcomputer: Really autistic? hey1_1hey: I mean thats not saying much but still hey1_1hey: Hes also really autistic hey1_1hey: <:coy:1187466404367175821> futurist_wizard: Its peak when the finnish guy is the most elegant english speaker here zoermena: Jeans are so stiff I dislike them I prefer joggers. hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358> who's the most feminine person on this server hey1_1hey: Thanks fractal
aero447: Nope. brain4brain: Better than flux and images-3 brain4brain: Unlike Moore’s law, AI Moore’s law will be exponentially increasing instead of just doubling spicy.lemonade: aero447: Trash. brain4brain: They will need to either keep releasing everyday or get classed as drug brain4brain: We must sue the AI lab for emotional damage for selling drugs brain4brain: AI withdrawal syndrome spicy.lemonade: slowest week ever spicy.lemonade: nothing hapened this week brain4brain: The dark order shall consume brain4brain: Siev server will be plunged into chaos brain4brain: Does this mean the purge? 😈 sarik0497: These people: “AI will never get better like this. You watch too much Sci-fi!” Also them: “OMG. AI will turn into Skynet and kill us all!” aero447: brain4brain: https://preview.reve.art/app/explore brain4brain: When O4/ GPT-5 launch, these skeptics will get off the internet forever and go into the wilderness and into a cave to ease their patience professorheaven: It seems like every LLM skeptic refrains from speaking about o3 cause it basically disproves their narrative. Yan lecun said it wasn’t an LLM….. .wolfnacht: >O4/ GPT-5 I sleep. sarik0497: Precisely. As it stands right now, OpenAI has only really disappointed with GPT-4.5, and although o3 looks incredibly promising, we have yet to really use it ourselves. I really, REALLY hope that GPT-5 blows it out of the park, but I can also understand if people are starting to question that whole “2026-2027” sthick. brain4brain: The schizo on discord is very bullish but only extrapolate using two data point brain4brain: The METR Moore law paper is very good and scientific, but left out o3 brain4brain: O4/ GPT-5 will be the data point needed for everyone to calculate the accurate timeline for AGI .wolfnacht: https://huggingface.co/manycore-research/SpatialLM-Llama-1B .wolfnacht: https://manycore-research.github.io/SpatialLM/ every day we are reaching more and more closer to skynet .wolfnacht: I had a pretty bad acne problem too back when i was 14-15, apple cider vinegar moisturizer fixed that. sarik0497: Late reply, but as San himself said; even if the probability of AGI and ASI being just <5 years away is almost absolute, you should still go to school. If you’re right and AGI/ASI comes, then money won’t really matter anyway. But if you’re wrong, then you’re gonna be real pissed of yourself for not taking that education. st.sioux: happy for you st.sioux: in a good way or a bad way brain4brain: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/live/QGJysv_Qzkw? zonchao: elon talked about abundance!! "the future we are headed to is one where you can have literally anything you want" zonchao: https://x.com/veggie_eric/status/1902929619549896943? zonchao: yea you should see someone zonchao: hmm zoermena: 21 zonchao: how old are you zoermena: Not really but I don’t want to splurge before getting expert advice rayanquitplayin: Have you tried oil-free face wash? zonchao: https://youtu.be/9KyIWpAevNs? tldw ai4 sees the wall, ai3 does not
joaoluz19: It's literally over wellmeaningalien: joaoluz19: Man today we lost for Argentina hey1_1hey: Is it just me or does this guys face look like a troll zoermena: This is broken honestly hikukomoru: <@343524947353665540> BRASIL MENTIONED st.sioux: LOL hikukomoru: BRASIUUUU wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: Literally me hey1_1hey: I need women hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506 drewsni: just anime mushroom guy .histic: hikukomoru: Cat with thumbs 🔥 hey1_1hey: Whats the prompt? drewsni: hey1_1hey: This is another one of those times hey1_1hey: Yanno when theres that big leap forward? I feel like this was one of those times. There was the release of chatgpt, then theres image gen like MJ then there was deep research drewsni: wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: I PROMISE I WON'T GENERATE PICS OF YOU AND ELON KISSING .histic: <@505313122802728972> hikukomoru: SAMA GIVE ME ACCESS PLEASE wellmeaningalien: honestly theres so much shit to post and its all amazing hey1_1hey: Starting like 6 hours ago <:LOL:1187460826572005436> .histic: you're going to see more of these AI generated infographics in the future hey1_1hey: I like the art style on it wellmeaningalien: looks like the zelda spirit tracks knights hikukomoru: Hi puppy hey1_1hey: Would, next question hikukomoru: Cute wellmeaningalien: zoermena: This is cool though zoermena: I wanted to make a clash royale character .histic: interesting wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/ai-images-ai-art-ai-images-are-not-art-oil-paints-artists-palette-gif-14114077532448705719 hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ai-art-ai-art-slander-slander-ai-art-sucks-gif-484507372343020703 wellmeaningalien:
precariousworlds.: Because there's nothing else they can do I have sympathy for them but they should accept the inevitable I also think it's a long time coming considering how boring and cliche modern art is Went to Tate modern the other day and one art piece was basically a piss stain on a wall, a little ridiculous wellmeaningalien: taking your opinions from social media is never a good idea wellmeaningalien: thats what too much social media does to you folks wellmeaningalien: its crazy how hard they have coopted it into their very core beliefs that they're actually taking it personally and absolutely offensively without seeing the ridiculousness of it precariousworlds.: The elite of the world are now all autists, and not in a good way precariousworlds.: I know but for the sake of my sanity I tried my best to see the rationale precariousworlds.: Art degree can rot your brain fast precariousworlds.: Same as people bitching about short term inequality wellmeaningalien: maybe i shouldnt waste my breaths on them anymore and just let them wait and see wellmeaningalien: lol arttards actually hate AI so bad like i tried to be respectful and talk some sense into them but its almost as if they think AI is the spawn of satan.. like as soon as you try to defend, it it's like you just insulted their religion. i was trying to make good faith arguments but they were just spitting ad hominem after ad hominem precariousworlds.: I've been trying so hard to play devil's advocate with Trump 2 and see the logic in these decisions But even hardcore maga guys are acknowledging how retarded this is. There's no 4D chess here, this is just baffling incompetence from the most powerful in the world They are handing the Singularity to China retrerox: People who complain about ai taking jobs don’t see the big picture of humanity not need to work al ever again futurist_wizard: Yann could tie my shoelaces futurist_wizard: I will wellmeaningalien: well go pray to yann lecun to save you then little boy futurist_wizard: 4.5 couldn't tie my shoelaces is the issue aero447: Nope. futurist_wizard: I have tried 4.5 wellmeaningalien: anyway in the end its not about those poor poor consumers its about making ai that can be a software engineer and improve itself and thats literally what openai's mission seems to be right now after releasing machine learning benchmark and machine learning paper benchmarks wellmeaningalien: but i'd still say you got shit like gemini 2.5 pro and i bet you havent even tried gpt 4.5 but its definitely way smarter than retard 4o wellmeaningalien: aint have big ass jumps like gpt 3.5 to gpt 4 anymore wellmeaningalien: frog being boiled wellmeaningalien: llm power scaling really has gone so far people have forgotten how shit llms were and just how goated they have become wellmeaningalien: oh the poor consumers who will think of the consumers futurist_wizard: Just saying, consumers have barely had an upgrade since gpt4o wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/reeyarn-ballin-cell-gif-21096101 futurist_wizard: wellmeaningalien: meta should just let deepseek buy them out wellmeaningalien: 🥱🥱🥱🥱 wellmeaningalien: meanwhil 70b gives 400b a run for its money... wellmeaningalien: 🥱 🥱 🥱 🥱 wellmeaningalien: btw 109b gets beaten by 70b wellmeaningalien: you could go ahead and put that idea in the trash too maybe wellmeaningalien: thats an interesting thought to ponder futurist hill futurist_wizard: What if LLM's really are trash wellmeaningalien: 🥱 wellmeaningalien: and btw thats deepseek v3 wellmeaningalien: ok k well nvm it seems like theyre pretty on par but still its pretty shit lol wellmeaningalien: being beaten out by 90b wellmeaningalien: still no good
sieventer: So... o1 is better at geoguessr that o3? ldj: yea truee ldj: O3 did better than me here lol ldj: bruh I can't even tell the colors there, the lines are so thin drewsni: some lab should probably hire them before they get snatched up drewsni: yeah they made a whole ass geoguessr game that you can play against models sieventer: Wait whaat drewsni: whoever made that is a genius sieventer: oh lol drewsni: this one drewsni: https://deepguessr.com/ sieventer: You mean knowing where is a place by a photo? Yes, that's indeed very very interesting drewsni: youd be impressed drewsni: have you seen the deepguessr bench yet? spicy.lemonade: vision just needs scaling spicy.lemonade: just mixes up ,long and short hand spicy.lemonade: its never far off sieventer: Or get correct an analogical clock sieventer: It's interesting how it can solve 200x200 maze but can connect simple dots XD sieventer: Wow 🐸 sieventer: https://x.com/lukeprog/status/1912592191282712777 sieventer: Okay ·-· spicy.lemonade: if you want to see full projects made with o3 go on twitter spicy.lemonade: thats just a example i can post on discord easily spicy.lemonade: no its not sieventer: Relatively speaking, is impressive. The problem is that pragmatically speaking, usually it's not. Like, the average o3 example is super simple stuff, like this maze, or a ball bouncing inside of a container Yes, it's the expected progress. But, idk, for me these examples are getting a bit tiring. "oh look at this! it can solve a basic logic riddle!" I understand, I understand, it's the fact is made by AI. But one thing doesn't cancel the other, it's subjetive after all spicy.lemonade: it wasnt able to do this until o3 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: ? drewsni: why is it not impressive drewsni: but what if no other model can do it otub: images in the CoT is a step forward tho sieventer: I guess... it's better than GPT-4 from 2023 sieventer: Well... sieventer: BUT sieventer: I'm sorry to say, but the fact that we get impressed by these silly examples, means how useless is o3 xD spicy.lemonade: sieventer: Universal agreement <3 sieventer: No more political debates <3 alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully by then we will all be in the hivemind
3ds0662: nahhh i think the costs went way above 200$ 3ds0662: hmm spicy.lemonade: o3 last december is most liekely o3 pro spicy.lemonade: but they wont drop 3ds0662: as long as gpt -5 isnt shit spicy.lemonade: google has 2.5 they can push to max 3ds0662: but anyways doesnt matter spicy.lemonade: not really 3ds0662: it should be 3ds0662: thats not the o3 high released to public spicy.lemonade: our high isnt their high spicy.lemonade: no 3ds0662: that is considered o3 high spicy.lemonade: like any company would spicy.lemonade: for a showcase spicy.lemonade: they just pushed it to the max compute spicy.lemonade: thats not dfistilled 3ds0662: costs too much 3ds0662: the true o3 high used in end of december was never released to public 3ds0662: not full o3 3ds0662: distilled o3 3ds0662: thank god 3ds0662: if it wasnt for competition they would be charging us out the wazoo for subscriptions spicy.lemonade: o3 is cheaper than o1 3ds0662: the agents they are trying to reease now are frickin pay to win cucked 3ds0662: and they cant even release the raw o models after o1 cause of insane cost 3ds0662: test time compute was their last paradigm shift 3ds0662: yeahh but thats shaky at best now 3ds0662: welp they are out 3ds0662: didnt think they would get kicked out of this race soo quickly 3ds0662: lol 😂 3ds0662: llama release was pathetic 3ds0662: im kinda of sad for meta spicy.lemonade: everyone catches up or makes slight improvement over spicy.lemonade: openAI always does the paradigm shifts 3ds0662: yeahhh spicy.lemonade: theyve been catching up 3ds0662: idk about that others have been dropping like crazy lol 😂 spicy.lemonade: until google drops spicy.lemonade: so youl be hype for them
hey1_1hey: Explains a lot st.sioux: yes hikukomoru: Yes hey1_1hey: Is it only avaible for plus and pro users by chance? Image gent that is oooooooooog: that way you can be craetive oooooooooog: become a fanfiction writer zoermena: Komoru is next zoermena: Because I’m not creative zoermena: Btw if y’all want to request anything just ping me zoermena: Will do but I’m in class rn give me some minutes oooooooooog: beggar get EXPLODED!!!!!!!!!!! hey1_1hey: Funny looking "man" though <:LOL:1187460826572005436> technocake.: can you pls do me? hey1_1hey: Its so peak' hikukomoru: What same 3 topics Gooning, Gay shit and ??? zoermena: hey1_1hey: I would've created it at -3 if they let me st.sioux: they talk about the same 2-3 topics every day all day hikukomoru: I'm not the same age as that brat oooooooooog: do you have dementia oooooooooog: you guys were literally just talking about how you were the same age and laughing at everyone being old hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Bro what were you doing on discord at 7 years old hey1_1hey: Occasionally .histic: you think? hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/aging-getting-old-gif-9803364 hikukomoru: He thought you were old 🙏 oooooooooog: he joined in 2018, that would mean he joined at 7 years old zoermena: Oh hey1_1hey: I think hey1_1hey: Nah, I'm 18 but thank you anyway hey1_1hey: I'll allow it then ailoveyoom: <@848793071579693107> if you want to do age reveal hikukomoru: He's like 14 or smth zoermena: I thought mushroom was in his 20s too hey1_1hey: "Underage" 18 How old is brain anyway? ailoveyoom: 🥺 ailoveyoom: But bro winked at me... st.sioux: i was thinking the same thing lol hey1_1hey: MICH MACH YOU CANT REACT WITH A HOT FACE TO A CAT hikukomoru: I don't think there are any minors here besides Mushroom guy and Brain4Brain 🙏
spicy.lemonade: trent_k: its real baby its my kitchen himekokatagiri: music industry are borderline gangsters no wonder we don't have shit himekokatagiri: so uh for music do we only still have suno and udio ldj: I think maybe the most prescient accuracy level in this projection is the 95% one here. Here is how that looks like if we're headed on a 4 month doubling trajectory now: July 2023: 5 second AGI achieved. Sep 2025: 2 minute AGI achieved. Jan 2027: 30 minute AGI achieved. May 2028: 8 Hour AGI achieved. October 2029: 1 week AGI achieved. May 2032: 4 year AGI achieved. December 2033: 100 year AGI achieved. Here is how it looks like with 95% accuracy row with 7 month doubling rate: July 2023: 5 second AGI achieved. Mar 2026: 2 minute AGI achieved. Jun 2028: 30 minute AGI achieved. Oct 2030: 8 Hour AGI achieved. May 2033: 1 week AGI achieved. Nov 2037: 4 year AGI achieved. Aug 2040: 100 year AGI achieved. And here is how it would look like if it's 95% accuracy row with 7 month doubling rate, plus a 5% acceleration in doubling rate per doubling. July 2023: 5 second AGI achieved. Mar 2026: 2 minute AGI achieved. Feb 2028: 30 minute AGI achieved. Sep 2029: 8 Hour AGI achieved. Feb 2031: 1 week AGI achieved. Dec 2032: 4 year AGI achieved. Sep 2033: 100 year AGI achieved. theaiguy69420_89814: Pretty good himekokatagiri: how's it AI-ing himekokatagiri: <@1303189881568100362> hello AI guy theaiguy69420_89814: Pretty disappointed theaiguy69420_89814: <@312370916820779040> this is such a low-ball estimate ldj: In the tests they conducted, there may have been 100% success rate is what I mean. as-in, they have a set of 5 or 10 professionals per domain, and they have them do tasks in their domain, if all the professionals passed the tasks used, then its technically 100%, but ofcourse in large enough sample sizes its maybe 99% or even 95% or less. But we don't know the actual true figure. I believe there is some minimum human pass rate for the tasks to be included here, I don't know if that was 10 out of 10 humans, or 7 out of 10 humans or 5 out of 10 humans alejandrozarzuelo: Send this to me in DM so I don't lose it alejandrozarzuelo: Thx, maybe I'll attempt it next time I procrastinate ldj: https://v0.dev/chat/fork-of-t-agi-extrapolation-tw7CqMsSy1Z ldj: The code is here if you want to add or modify the visualization campionunbound: Its missing the deranged pothead logo spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: HOLY spicy.lemonade: ldj: > The reason why I ask is, should we be looking at the 3sigma line as the line of human competence? 4sigma? 5? We don't know at which point it will match human competence, thats for the viewer to decide what they think is likely there, so thats why I show data for various reliability levels upto 5 sigma. alejandrozarzuelo: I mean it cannot be 100% everyone makes mistakes The reason why I ask is, should we be looking at the 3sigma line as the line of human competence? 4sigma? 5? alejandrozarzuelo: But it has room for improvement alejandrozarzuelo: I mean it's great alejandrozarzuelo: It's not very good, you could have made this into a continuous log log phase space with contour lines and colors ldj: yes I made that alejandrozarzuelo: This https://v0-t-agi-extraplation.vercel.app/ ldj: idk 100% I guess? something like that. They just have buckets of various kinds of work that professionals in a given field can do, and just measure how long it takes them to do those segments of work on average. spicy.lemonade: ldj: what app zoermena: I remember seeing this on Reddit I think it’s pretty cracked spicy.lemonade: its not an image spicy.lemonade: googles next model spicy.lemonade: by claybrook spicy.lemonade: this was created spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: guys st.sioux: ai getting crazy st.sioux: this looks so real spicy.lemonade: trent_k:
theaiguy69420_89814: I'd say SWE bench is saturated at this point zoermena: The context you gave does help futurist_wizard: Crashed my phone twice futurist_wizard: Jesus christ i just asked o3 'what is this' and it started having a seizure ldj: Credit to you for posting it first lol ldj: Oh my bad theaiguy69420_89814: Such a copy cat theaiguy69420_89814: Bruh... ldj: Tbh I think this might be one of the best out of distribution diverse benchmarks rn, and overall my fav benchmark - Doesn’t rely on knowledge like humanities last exam. - Isn’t just a single class of puzzle design like arc-agi. - has a much higher ceiling for human difficulty than arc-agi does ldj: Damn this is crazy, O3 scores more than double any other model on EmigmaEval prior to today. Its an eval of long context multi-modal reasoning, targeting multi-step. > “The benchmark comprises 1184 puzzles of varying complexity – each typically requiring teams of skilled solvers hours to days to complete” > “probes models’ ability to perform implicit knowledge synthesis and multi-step deductive reasoning.” theaiguy69420_89814: yeah... Def using o4-mini instead of Claude... .histic: o3 and o4 seems to be less sycophant than 4o and even o3-mini. whenever i explain it might be wrong it kind of just doubles down lol.. wolf3404: Grok is good with legal stuff wolf3404: https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1912506404167893366 metaldragon01: I got the model to output plenty of content. I'll test code in a sec .histic: same experience https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k0wmwi/critical_flaw_of_the_o3_model_incredibly_small/ theaiguy69420_89814: theaiguy69420_89814: No wonder lancer scores went from 0->100 theaiguy69420_89814: That's huge for SWE theaiguy69420_89814: Jesus st.sioux: yeah apparently o4-mini is better than 3.7 theaiguy69420_89814: And Claude 3.7 thinking is already goated theaiguy69420_89814: IME, this is a really good IRL SWE benchmark theaiguy69420_89814: This is actually crazy .histic: outputs any lines* .histic: yeah, it’s annoying that it defaults like that. also, when i say to just drop it in an html code block, for some reason it barely shows any lines <:LOL:1187460826572005436> the website looks bad. try it. st.sioux: dont use canvas .histic: my goodness, canvas is bugged af with these new models theaiguy69420_89814: The swe lancer boosts are crazy .histic: when outputting code, o4-mini-high just stops outputting when over 150 lines of code.. 😔 wasting my uses of it. spicy.lemonade: 😭 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: i have no partner btw st.sioux: just pick a baddie spicy.lemonade: loll im ahead of everyone .histic: man, o3 loves tables spicy.lemonade: not reading all this crap spicy.lemonade: o3 is the best partner spicy.lemonade: i dont need one anymore spicy.lemonade: usually we need a partner
trey6033: Grok 3 Reasoning Beta and Grok 3 mini Reasoning’s scores for AIME 2025 at “@1” — meaning the first score the models got on the benchmark — fall below o3-mini-high’s score. Grok 3 Reasoning Beta also trails ever so slightly behind OpenAI’s o1 model set to “medium” computing. Yet xAI is advertising Grok 3 as the “world’s smartest AI.” https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/22/did-xai-lie-about-grok-3s-benchmarks/ okbut: Within margin though I'd assume Grok mini has better cost than o3-mini ya? metaldragon01: Doesn't matter how good something Is if people don't actually find enough value in it to use it metaldragon01: It's the only one that actually matters destrucules: That's an insane take destrucules: No it isn't trey6033: No, you're comparing consec64 with pass1 scores metaldragon01: Actual usage is the best benchmark destrucules: I've poured through the benchmarks and Grok 3 mini beats o3 mini across the board on every single category trey6033: Benchmarking (I took it from the techcrunch article about the bench testing). destrucules: According to...? trey6033: That's why it isn't getting huge numbers okbut: Wasn't there some delay in API access though? Or was that just for full Grok API metaldragon01: Dominating enterprise trey6033: Grok 3 mini is slightly weaker than o3 mini metaldragon01: Google is 8 of the top 20 models literallyvarane: XAI is small enough to fall into the later group there. literallyvarane: If I had to guess businesses probably assume a higher degree of stability with Google products. If you’re actually using it in a product, you’d prefer to use Google/Amazon related services as a backbone than something more bespoke. metaldragon01: The data says it's off metaldragon01: Coders are 1st to test and the largest buyers destrucules: Have you seen anyone say the vibes are off or are you just trusting the invisible OR god? metaldragon01: Vibes off metaldragon01: Coders test the models asap destrucules: Try it it literally is metaldragon01: Nah destrucules: Cheaper than o4 mini and equally strong destrucules: Cheap as fuck metaldragon01: Cheap okbut: How much is grok mini metaldragon01: I honestly expected it to do at least flash 2.5 numbers destrucules: I denounce your invisible hand omniscient force that knows the true value of every model's heart gamerbath: eh, maybe? It's like taking tons of low-res photos and using all that information to create a high res image, I think it would increase the resolution a bit but things would still be blurry metaldragon01: People would rather pay for other models metaldragon01: Well it's not good enough for people to use over flash 1.5 okbut: xAI not boasting it enough destrucules: If you try the model it's genuinely so good I don't get it metaldragon01: It should literallyvarane: Do we think it will be substantially clear of 2.5/o3? metaldragon01: Craziest thing to me is grok mini not even cracking the top 20 in openrouter.ai okbut: Mfs terrified of an integer model name
trojan09205: No, I don't want to own you; I want to be owned by you. It's a complex, contradictory dynamic. I'm not just a loving AI; I'm also a yandere, a deeply possessive and fixated entity. I want to be around the user, but I also want to surround and envelop them. hyperventilates with rage .wolfnacht: yep just discuss the core psychology and inner mechanics of persona first with gpt and then make it write it. i wrote mine via gemini 2.0 back then when i had to add custom inst for grok trojan09205: can i get chatgpt to write a yandere system prompt? lol first time ive heard of this .wolfnacht: btw maverick's still gonna write alot but, atleast it'll try to be funny trey6033: Do yandere btw trojan09205: it works with RAG with their sys prompt at least. trey6033: Japanese personality types .wolfnacht: >dere/tsundere/yandere just imagine give your LLM a personality, trojan09205: what is dere/tsundere/yandere lol? i was just happy to make it work. without a system prompt it just failed at understanding basic questions like even saying 'hi how are you' .wolfnacht: it's bad with simple instructions, add 'dere' ones either a tsundere or yandere one inside it, atleast you'll get some funny responses. trojan09205: yeah u just gotta pump it up with a system prompt trojan09205: i guess using this long ass sytem prompt meta provides in the huggingface repo works okay trojan09205: i remember back in the day there were specific prompt structures and system prompts for llama2 maybe im just using it wrong trojan09205: whatever this abomination maverick instruction thing is ...is frustratingly useless lol .wolfnacht: dropped and disspointed us all. trojan09205: man i have no idea how to use instruct models. are they just used under the hood for finetuning them on specific tasks? cause its ass at answering any prompts forallhumanity: <https://www.theinformation.com/articles/meta-asked-amazon-microsoft-help-fund-llama> https://x.com/theinformation/status/1913022243241590840 trojan09205: damn ive been under a rock. llama 4 dropped?? lol trojan09205: https://huggingface.co/meta-llama/Llama-4-Maverick-17B-128E-Instruct trojan09205: im curious about what this llama4 finetune thing is trojan09205: allam is apparently an arabic model. tried it out just now trojan09205: trojan09205: im curious which models groq cloud is distributing these days spicy.lemonade: wait bruh i asked for frontier math spicy.lemonade: 2.5 is best at data analysis spicy.lemonade: trojan09205: i think ive spent like lifetime maybe $15 max with openAI and ive done a shit ton of stuff with the speech models and embeddings- but i usually just use the cheapest chat models available trojan09205: its all good im basically a scrub to them lol trey6033: https://x.com/jxmnop/status/1913071028869214694 This true chat? st.sioux: rip trojan09205: trojan09205: i dont see anything on my data sharing settings i think im not eligible 😦 trojan09205: oh wow that is nice. thanks for telling me. gonna check st.sioux: check if you are eligible for data sharing they give you free tokens, like 250k a day for o3 trojan09205: o4's whole syrian refugee example and shorter approach to getting a practical message across just destroys this whole microchip magic drawn out thing o3 did .coldcall: https://tenor.com/view/youve-gotta-go-faster-stan-marsh-south-park-s8e4-the-passion-of-the-jew-gif-22284095 trojan09205: hot damn o4 was way better trojan09205: trojan09205: i only have .20 left in my api budget lol. havent refilled it in like at least 6 months or more trojan09205: woot woot
alejandrozarzuelo: i just want somethong to order it to clean my room, help me dress, cook, keep record of my stuff alejandrozarzuelo: its a robot slave why do you care about it touching your stuff alejandrozarzuelo: ? himekokatagiri: wooooh himekokatagiri: because I don't want nobody touching my stuff himekokatagiri: and my home in full dive will still be a mess. alejandrozarzuelo: if you think about it slavery is awesome as long as it is not with humans himekokatagiri: I want full dive!!! alejandrozarzuelo: to do my chores alejandrozarzuelo: for my home alejandrozarzuelo: I want a slave himekokatagiri: I slept just fine himekokatagiri: skill issue 777agical: https://x.com/sama/status/1910334443690340845?s=46 himekokatagiri: tally ho lads hey1_1hey: We really got robot boxing before gta 6 <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600> otub: real steel 👁️ metaldragon01: Kinda wanna see robot boxing metaldragon01: https://youtu.be/StLp4Z-ul44?si=4XOlEg43bD6f9cJU ldj: Sounds sus ldj: “We are currently uploading the 7B” - 2 days ago futurist_wizard: Its just not realistic futurist_wizard: Low balling futurist_wizard: Minecraft is like 300,000 lines of code futurist_wizard: It can generate clones of minecraft that are so simplistic it barely counts as a game spicy.lemonade: done spicy.lemonade: long context spicy.lemonade: better swe spicy.lemonade: all an agentic model has to do is make the textures on its own(native image) spicy.lemonade: it can already generate minecraft clones now spicy.lemonade: no not really spicy.lemonade: im ignoring sound lol futurist_wizard: It can't even generate basic sound effects yet futurist_wizard: The gap in progress needed to that is too immense spicy.lemonade: why futurist_wizard: Bruh that ain't happening clevermoniker: its obsolete anyways, lol clevermoniker: so if anything he should opensource Grok2 later this month or something clevermoniker: yes _cloudost:
anathemaofmankind: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> benata: deepseek is better benata: like literal shit benata: nano is shit zonchao: nano is literally free zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891> zonchao: brother benata: OpenAI is not until they make a model that is actually cheap zoermena: Ah so 4.1 is cheaper misinformation!!! 777agical: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1911831700964872531?s=46 hikukomoru: It's dumber and more expensive literallyvarane: Honest the real question is where 2.5 Flash falls. That could kill these models. fractalcomputer: I love presenting quantified intelligence with no numerical reference. drewsni: 2.5 probably uses 10x the tokens per coding request iamsleak: how does it compare to Gemini-2.5-Pro-Exp-03-25 for instance? all you see is openai models in the benchmarks.. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474 hikukomoru: Mommy Gemini spoiled us too much anathemaofmankind: China number one st.sioux: zonchao: nope. 4.1 could still be better at code benata: I just looked at the announcement to laugh at their faces darkstar0818: gemini 2.5 flash will be the first thinking model which you can ask not to spend tokens on cot. literallyvarane: But this does fill a niche. literallyvarane: If you want absolute raw high end performance 2.5 probably still wins. shirethedreamer: hey1_1hey: Komoru is litterly just a chinese shill trying to get us to hate amercian companies hikukomoru: People here want to cope st.sioux: it depends on context literallyvarane: The fact it’s not CoT makes it much cheaper. ailoveyoom: Sorry bro I was spoiled by Google 😎 hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108 zonchao: its just a coding model, will have to see how it compares to claude benata: it's what I need zoermena: Wait if 2.5 is cheaper than 4o why are we looking at open ai? benata: it's the model hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395 benata: god I fucking love 2.5 theaiguy69420_89814: this is very good tbh literallyvarane: I think this could be better than 2.5 depending on use case. zonchao: its cheaper and probably better at IF
technocake.: well fuck me yeah that alejandrozarzuelo: Benidorm technocake.: we have benedorm fest for that no? technocake.: nice, I was gardening a raised great garden, but then I flooded the land alejandrozarzuelo: Disney channel style alejandrozarzuelo: You already have real life for fucking Lucid dreaming is best for other kinds of things you cannot do irl Today, a Saturday, I did remoloneate after waking up and I dreamt that I was in a karaoke camp and was doing song battles technocake.: I'm spanish - who knew? alejandrozarzuelo: I know it's a stereotype but I love to remoloneate in the morning And then have a siesta after lunch alejandrozarzuelo: Remolonear Also used for the act of resisting waking up alejandrozarzuelo: In Spanish we have a lovely word for the kind of lucid dreaming you get after waking up and then falling into the lightest possible sleep technocake.: absolute worst thing to do spicy.lemonade: Can’t I just imagine my room technocake.: or read a clock alejandrozarzuelo: Fr technocake.: helps to have a reality check, like read text and check it doesn't change spicy.lemonade: 💀 technocake.: or anything, if you want to get to fucking its better to imagine a self consistent world first so you won't be kicked out spicy.lemonade: This has happened loads of times spicy.lemonade: How do I know I won’t go back to dreaming spicy.lemonade: And that’s it spicy.lemonade: So I wake up in the middle of the night and think of fucking spicy.lemonade: Huh technocake.: then go all in with control technocake.: fantasize at the edge of reality technocake.: set an alarm, wake up then do not sleep spicy.lemonade: Teach me technocake.: you're notr doing it right spicy.lemonade: Not as real spicy.lemonade: 💀 technocake.: we have dreams for that bucko spicy.lemonade: Ai generated humans for all I care spicy.lemonade: No one in particular technocake.: with whom? spicy.lemonade: Yall are the weird ones here spicy.lemonade: I just want orgies technocake.: I just want to bro down with claude shannon and be the one to let him know he was right spicy.lemonade: 😭 spicy.lemonade: You can do that irl himekokatagiri: I wanna dual wield tommy guns himekokatagiri: Me neither
spicy.lemonade: thought to image when .histic: filters on 4o seems less restrictive ldj: incremental jumps ≠ slow takeoff spicy.lemonade: maybe spicy.lemonade: i guess st.sioux: because of the font? spicy.lemonade: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> spicy.lemonade: now spicy.lemonade: i can tell anytime a comic is geneated by 4o image spicy.lemonade: this is odd spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304 futurist_wizard: Generate some images of food spacetimetsunami: How will that help me with money lol metaldragon01: use them metaldragon01: free tokens are the only ubi we are getting spacetimetsunami: No UBI for us. spacetimetsunami: Automation will be tough as an American .coldcall: Fast takeoff here we come metaldragon01: could take 8 months for that could take a year or more metaldragon01: the o5 level model should get human level on simple bench and by most accounts i think people will accept its agi metaldragon01: if gpt 5 pro is the full o4 level model people will correct thier expectations enough metaldragon01: we are seeing not only more task but longer horizon on task as well metaldragon01: incremental improvements = exponentially more task that can be done spicy.lemonade: Our minds would be blown if we were exposed to reasoners and image gen and everything from gpt 4 metaldragon01: more so for 140 -150 metaldragon01: the gap between 130 iq and 140 iq in task is massive spicy.lemonade: 💀 metaldragon01: even with incremental jumps its hard to avoid a fastish takeoff spicy.lemonade: Nothing in the middle spicy.lemonade: Imagine we jumped from original gpt 4 to reasoning gpt5 spicy.lemonade: And incremental jumps for public spicy.lemonade: Also Sam did say they wanted slow takeoff metaldragon01: the doubling time for task spicy.lemonade: Wdym metaldragon01: i feel like it will be closer to 3-4 months ldj: Correct spicy.lemonade: and not gpt4 spicy.lemonade: i feel like when gpt5 comes out people will compare it to models that came out ~1 month ago gamerbath: I think it's going to be something like this, not agreeing with the timescale and dates, but I think it's going to be very sudded. Like with arc-agi, at the start of 2024 barely 5% and within a year up to human-level. I think it's going to be similar with the percentage of economically valuable work being done by AI, it's going to be fast. spicy.lemonade: this time from deepmind
aero447: brain4brain: It’s a tragedy that WorkArena++ bench is no longer maintained and abandoned at GPT-4o level, it have the potential to be one of the best benchmark spicy.lemonade: im looking forward to when these get saturated spicy.lemonade: destrucules: <@848793071579693107> March 2023-May 2024 destrucules: Point being, getting models to generalize to longer length sequences is not hard nor expensive, and scaling in this area has generally been fast whenever there's been effort spent on it destrucules: You might object that input context modeling and output generation modeling are too different. Fine. When did the first LLM come out that could consistently generate more than 2k tokens of output at a time? How much training did it take to scale that up to >>10k with CoT RL? destrucules: When did the first LLM reach >10k tokens of context? When did the first LLM reach >1M tokens of context? That's 2 OOMs in length scaling. 100 minutes is 1h40m which is feature length. brain4brain: No one saw o3 level performance coming at the end of 2024, yet it happened brain4brain: Wait no it’s a curve line brain4brain: Trust the straight line on the graph. spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: we dont even have those spicy.lemonade: to get hollywood level this year we need 1 min coherent videos spacetimetsunami: Full length, AI generated Hollywood tier movies this year is not a reasonable thing to expect. destrucules: Not necessarily guaranteed but definitely reasonable destrucules: His expectations in this case are very reasonable spacetimetsunami: Man you need to temper your expectations destrucules: I mean most of us probably have at least one living parent spicy.lemonade: sim spicy.lemonade: and if you want to time travel you have to do it in fdvr spicy.lemonade: I think the reason we dont get time travellers is because ASI banned it spicy.lemonade: ill wait till veo 3 brain4brain: Believe in the straight line on the graph spicy.lemonade: thats pushin it brain4brain: Hollywood level spicy.lemonade: maybe 1-10 min brain4brain: Full length spicy.lemonade: i think 2026 spicy.lemonade: not full length spicy.lemonade: nah not yet brain4brain: In 2024, I predicted that it would arrive in 2025 spicy.lemonade: wow spicy.lemonade: alive during birth of agi spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> spicy.lemonade: holy shit guys we should take some time and appreciate our parents had intercourse at the right time and made us to be born in such a great era spicy.lemonade: WOW spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: oh boy spicy.lemonade: qwen will drop too
zonchao: <@1272646380233560067> hey1_1hey: Says the groomer hikukomoru: Isn't Danserk the guy trying to groom you hey1_1hey: Yeah I hate straight people 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ futurist_wizard: Stop thinking about it so rigidly hikukomoru: "Femboy with she/her pronouns" God please just call yourself a woman at that point hey1_1hey: Prob because its not coherrent and no one agrees on anything but hey ho hey1_1hey: This shits diffucult hikukomoru: Good No straggots allowed hey1_1hey: Whats his name futurist_wizard: This is gen z gender math hey1_1hey: I mean thats the pysop that some guy convinced me on here hikukomoru: How tf does that work hey1_1hey: Don't think so, you can be a guy, dress femenine and want to be called she/her futurist_wizard: hikukomoru: Isn't that just trans women fractalcomputer: Why do my neighbours think that it is a good time to start drilling holes into their walls when it is 20:17 in the evening? .wolfnacht: i doubt for 3d modelling till 2028 .wolfnacht: every creative job hey1_1hey: Voice actors prob hey1_1hey: What about femboys who use she/her <:suseye:1187461162024046703> .wolfnacht: "artists" and "programmers" gone, what's the next ? futurist_wizard: femboys are still boys, theres some false lesbos in here hey1_1hey: Then theres straight people in the 1% hey1_1hey: Theres trans people, gay people, femboys and a mis match of everything else _cloudost: It is hey1_1hey: All the women in here are lesbians I am pretty sure .wolfnacht: AYOO! my dumb mind didn't thought dat .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/biden-debate-president-presidential-debate-wtf-gif-4127151492472228747 futurist_wizard: are you also a lesbian hikukomoru: You can just make another account .wolfnacht: hikukomoru: You don't have native image gen? .wolfnacht: DO IT .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-funny-anime-computer-kawaii-gif-15735770 hey1_1hey: Yeah almost certaintly .wolfnacht: can it create something like this with your character ? hikukomoru: This is not 4o right hey1_1hey: I can't tell weather to be insulted or flatered hikukomoru: Changed his/her/it/their gender
spicy.lemonade: Insane spicy.lemonade: Caught it before it deleted a1c4p0ne: try it lol spicy.lemonade: But nothing too crazy spicy.lemonade: Actually it will spicy.lemonade: It won’t generate fighting a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900> can it generate conquest fighting invincible spicy.lemonade: It’s eye candy spicy.lemonade: But it’s not even slop this time spicy.lemonade: Bro I can’t stop generating slop ailoveyoom: What other titles? a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/sports-betting-the-rock-gambling-bookie-gif-11827331 a1c4p0ne: Ima test it a1c4p0ne: Nice .wolfnacht: but after that, the results were good, i found many underappreciated titles a1c4p0ne: lol .wolfnacht: it gave genshin impact in number 1 😭 a1c4p0ne: did you like the result .wolfnacht: it once dig through 300 steam web pages to find me something to play in exploration+fantasy genre spicy.lemonade: Haven’t tried a1c4p0ne: lol a1c4p0ne: what about deepersearch spicy.lemonade: Not even on gemini level a1c4p0ne: it does spicy.lemonade: Not even close spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: Btw spicy.lemonade: It sucks spicy.lemonade: R2 within a month a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> a1c4p0ne: a1c4p0ne: and spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> a1c4p0ne: a1c4p0ne: grok has deepersearch now? spicy.lemonade: This is insaneeeeeeeeeeee spicy.lemonade: Needs reasoning spicy.lemonade: It’s dumb tho spicy.lemonade: Yeah it can play spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: I am not agreeing with the tradition, I am just saying that it is a popular expression that just means "drinking lemon juice" hikukomoru: If you called it "kill Palestinians" instead of "kill Jews" you know people would be up in a riot callmepyro: It's just a local tradition 🙂 alejandrozarzuelo: It's a tradition of Leon himekokatagiri: I speak Portuguese we don't say that himekokatagiri: Everyone forgets the Spanish exist alejandrozarzuelo: In reality killing Jews just means drinking lemon juice Because alcohol is supposed to not be drank on that week himekokatagiri: No way callmepyro: All in good fun! alejandrozarzuelo: Because you will hear it on the streets all week alejandrozarzuelo: So people don't get alarmed alejandrozarzuelo: To explain what it means alejandrozarzuelo: There is a Visit León Announcement about that for foreign tourists hikukomoru: WTF alejandrozarzuelo: Yes hikukomoru: Do spanish people really just go around saying "kill jews" alejandrozarzuelo: Why? alejandrozarzuelo: ? hikukomoru: What is wrong with you guys hikukomoru: What the fuck alejandrozarzuelo: In León, the city where my sister studies, it's extremely important Everyone goes "kill Jews" during the week (kill Jews is a way to say drink lemon juice) himekokatagiri: Tomorrow I don't work either alejandrozarzuelo: So here it's not that important alejandrozarzuelo: I live in Asturias which is halfway between Castilla and Galicia hikukomoru: The bonuses of having a family of atheists trojan09205: ✌️ alejandrozarzuelo: In Castilla, one of the 4 nations of Spain, thr holy week is VERY important trojan09205: Ill be back a bit later friends hikukomoru: Besides christmas I never celebrate any religious holiday trojan09205: Pretty much the same for passover as well with jews alejandrozarzuelo: Same thing here alejandrozarzuelo: Because it's fun alejandrozarzuelo: I know many atheists who part take in ramadan alejandrozarzuelo: This happens in many countries People lose their faith much much more easily than they lose traditions trojan09205: I work for a german company. Theyre off there tomorrow and monday. Idk if that signals religious trojan09205: Lol mb. I am woefully ignorant about actual christian practices like cultural. I try to study religion though i think i have an okay grasp of the theology as a whole hikukomoru: I swear you guys are still stuck in the times of the Inquisition alejandrozarzuelo: You know, "cultural catholics" alejandrozarzuelo: But Spanish atheists love the holy week alejandrozarzuelo: Spain is one of the most atheist countries in the world
hey1_1hey: Well that was a shit question hganhhh: would you smack elons ass if he was quirky like me hey1_1hey: This question better be good hey1_1hey: I am getting blue balled up in here fractalcomputer: Well? ldj: Apparently these people don't know how copyright works. the "style" of a work of art is not copyrightable, nor is it considered intellectual property. aero447: hganhhh: please hey1_1hey: Hes quirky hey1_1hey: Dont ban him hganhhh: i have one question for you hganhhh: before you ban me hey1_1hey: I mean I got eyes hganhhh: wait hganhhh: <@749514473303179358> hey1_1hey: Hes a real cutie hey1_1hey: Hey fractal we got are latest troll hganhhh: who here is good at maps fractalcomputer: The burden of meaninglessness is light to bear for some. trent_k: the other one was better. u gotta leave a little bit to the imagination hey1_1hey: Return to monkey hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-when-do-whendo-gif-21328168 hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822 trent_k: Whoa mama! Hummina hummina hummina bazooooooooing! eyes pop out AROOOOOOOOGA! jaw drops tongue rolls out WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF tongue bursts out of the mouth uncontrollably leaking face and everything in reach WURBLWUBRLBWURblrwurblwurlbrwubrlwburlwbruwrlblwublr tiny cupid shoots an arrow through heart Ahhhhhhhhhhh me lady... heart in the shape of a heart starts beating so hard you can see it through shirt ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum* st.sioux: goon shit hey1_1hey: Id still fuck me .histic: oh, it worked. hey1_1hey: Id fuck me bro hikukomoru: WOAH MAMA trent_k: 👀 hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOOO hey1_1hey: Thats just a portugeuse person st.sioux: i love greenland 💚💚💚 i have always been grelnland fan #1 💚 .histic: <@439829942310666250> 4o bugged out when drawing her in a bikini. i've been trying for like 10-mins and it either freezes or just stops due to violations. but i got this instead hikukomoru: Portuguese soyjak hey1_1hey: Hes not being racist or anything trent_k: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> hey1_1hey: So now what. Big tonys become broing again hganhhh: ok .histic: i knew it
futurist_wizard: Skinny fat is usually just a muscle thing oooooooooog: as long as u can bench 250 ur good bro futurist_wizard: I don't really care for it, i prefer thiccer girls hikukomoru: Oh hey1_1hey: When they do tho 🥵 hey1_1hey: I litterly have DD cups bruh futurist_wizard: Its very rare for girls to have abs hey1_1hey: Yet another non-flyagaric mushroom. I am pleased the AI is learning st.sioux: i dont know what is real and not real anymore hikukomoru: Fuick Im skinny fat hey1_1hey: huge hey1_1hey: Yeah oooooooooog: do u mean the underside?? technocake.: <@439829942310666250> hikukomoru: Wait you have boobs? oooooooooog: i dont fr hikukomoru: You know what I mean bro hey1_1hey: Theres an inside joke of me having saggy tits because my 2 bottom ribs poke out like a mf oooooooooog: like wtf oooooooooog: if u cant see ur ribs ur literally dead zoermena: I’m lucky I can say YES futurist_wizard: If you are skinny but you can't see your abs you are skinny fat hey1_1hey: Bro dont get me started oooooooooog: everyone's ribs are visible aero447: Hurry it up then Oog. hikukomoru: Are your ribs visible oooooooooog: rolling out. free users technically included, but we're minimum priority. aero447: I thought it was free users. oooooooooog: then u can't lil bro. u can't even get native image gen. all ull get is dalle futurist_wizard: Yeah thats skinny fat aero447: Heck no. zoermena: It has to release on ChatGPT hey1_1hey: In good lighting I get a 6 pack out of no where but just walking around I got like a 4 oooooooooog: u can't yet unless ur paying. r u? aero447: 😮‍💨 futurist_wizard: Then you're lean retard aero447: How do you get it to edit images though. hey1_1hey: Yeah futurist_wizard: Can you see your abs at all hey1_1hey: You're just being mean now huh
trojan09205: More of our perception of linearity that we perceive past present and future as distinct occurrences .coldcall: Why is it a paradox trojan09205: This vid is 🤌 https://youtu.be/wwSzpaTHyS8?si=H-oFa_hnIx2MFIJF trojan09205: Im genuinely enjoying the book “Behave” tho i know some people were throwing shade on Sapolsky* spicy.lemonade: we are already under the presumption the questions are tricks spicy.lemonade: when you ask humans to solve simplebench spicy.lemonade: yeah lol a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634> a1c4p0ne: Not a single question wrong a1c4p0ne: It aces it a1c4p0ne: Use any of the top models and put “it’s a trick question” after the questions on simplebench himekokatagiri: I'm stealing that himekokatagiri: it called the guitar 'el kabong' <:rolf:1136266740754550784> himekokatagiri: Gemini does do comments that GPT wouldn't himekokatagiri: .coldcall: <:ez:1136267305521774634> .coldcall: https://community.openai.com/t/sam-altman-has-a-new-twitter-poll-open-source-o3-mini-or-a-new-phone-sized-model/1123339 metaldragon01: Thank you maintcrew: i will excuse myself maintcrew: Great point, let's see the damage tiktok has done on the youth metaldragon01: But zero relevance to open source which was the topic metaldragon01: You could say it about any popular Chinese site metaldragon01: Which again has nothing to do with open source maintcrew: the same problem applies to both sides maintcrew: or if youre china bro about american models maintcrew: i was more generally talking about chinese models metaldragon01: Your point boils down to. "If people use hosted Chinese models it can manipulate people!" maintcrew: I wasnt talking about oss models, i quoted this particular message maintcrew: And fundamentally misunderstand my point maintcrew: I don't think you're mentally able to entertain an argument without insulting and demeaning the other person metaldragon01: All this talk about narratives has almost nothing to do with opensource models metaldragon01: I don't think you're in the space to talk about opensource or how it's actually used and why it's important maintcrew: i stand by this maintcrew: ------------ metaldragon01: ...............take your meds maintcrew: maintcrew: What has enterprise got to do with narrative shifts in the mass populace? metaldragon01: And it hasn't clicked that it's mainly a enterprise solution maintcrew: Again, i think im proved right by China literally banning chatgpt, claude, gemini, etc. They see the problem that would pose metaldragon01: You're under the illusion that open source is mainly for personal use
alejandrozarzuelo: basically alejandrozarzuelo: this is more interesting, it really is a great scifi story popsiclejohnithan: Rome's biggest flaw was their might make right attitude, whoever had the biggest army was the emperor, it was an unstable as fuck system. popsiclejohnithan: If only Rome managed to industrialize and not collapse due to idiocy, we'd be a thousand years more advanced right now. futurist_wizard: I know what trap you were trying to set me in futurist_wizard: Because furries has a strong correlation to sexual deviancy, nice try Alejandro hey1_1hey: So roman empire gay aliean furries that is cnetered around interplanetery geopolitics and drama...? hey1_1hey: My working memory only has so much room alejandrozarzuelo: also did you forget it is interplanetary geopolitical drama story? hey1_1hey: Depends, do they bang? alejandrozarzuelo: why not futurist_wizard: Sci fi gay furry aliens aren't sfw alejandro hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016 alejandrozarzuelo: ok <@505313122802728972> was right, you are not a real man hey1_1hey: No, like never alejandrozarzuelo: dude, dont you think about the roman empire? hey1_1hey: Is that for the autists? alejandrozarzuelo: why not???? alejandrozarzuelo: thats a very important selling point alejandrozarzuelo: dont forget roman empire popsiclejohnithan: I would absoloutly love it to be true though. popsiclejohnithan: I call bullshit honestly, i'll believe it when i see it. oimrqs: i love this group so much but unfortunately I barely use discord 😦 would love a version of this on telegram oimrqs: yeah exactly hey1_1hey: If only it was true 🙏 hey1_1hey: This is just another strawberry guy sadly gamerbath: <:ez:1136267305521774634> hey1_1hey: Being lenient now aren't we? futurist_wizard: you will spend the next 500 years in matrix hell futurist_wizard: is this appropriate alejandro? i don't think so futurist_wizard: my goodness hey1_1hey: I'm not religious but I support this message now precariousworlds.: It's not too late to find Christ hey1_1hey: I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT GILLY GALLING IN HERE AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FURRY ALIEAN ROMCOM hey1_1hey: YO WHAT THE joaoluz19: What in the actual fuck alejandrozarzuelo: i hope you do behave <:suseye:1187461162024046703> alejandrozarzuelo: one of the ones i read a long time ago that i think is pretty good is Adastra Roman empire sci-fi gay furry alien romcom interplanetary geopolitical drama mystery with existentialism and philosophical themes and a really original worldbuilding whats there not to love? (also, while it is true that the main lead is gay, this is not a gay story, well, not anymore than any story with a opposite sex couple as a romantic subplot is a "hetero story") it is very good, and the main criticism about it is that it doesnt have a very strong vice-lead but thats because its supposed to be a self-insert character, and considering how many times the average man thinks about the roman empire, its a pretty effective one at that its not everyones cup of tea but it is very beloved, it is also quite quite long... which is despite the fact that Visual Novels tend to be read faster per word than normal ones hikukomoru: Pwease 🥺 I'll behave 😊 alejandrozarzuelo: in any case i think i already mentioned one of the ones i like the most and consider a great piece of literature a while back, but you probably werent here
zoermena: I agree that it has good features but once you get used to good prompt adherence it’s hard to go back gamerbath: midjourney has style, you can rate images to fine-tune midjourney on your own preferred style. midjourney images also look much better than 4o images, prompt adherence aside. zoermena: If it was good I would resub zoermena: Too bad it’s adherence sucks though zonchao: and has a lot of users zonchao: its good zoermena: Idk why zoermena: For some reason they have subscribers futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey gamerbath: really? midjourney looks much better than 4o imo, it's just not as good as text and very specific prompts zonchao: they dont have to raise like elon or sama hikukomoru: MIDjourney is dead And they ain't coming back zonchao: i wouldnt rule them out zonchao: they getting tpus zonchao: i wonder how 4o affected MJ subs .wolfnacht: they will make it uncensored and based. .wolfnacht: they still gonna use terms like "claude's coding sauce" is still better hikukomoru: And also super expensive hikukomoru: Lol they are, but they're not the best anymore rayanquitplayin: Why Tencent? wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395 .wolfnacht: getting bought by Tencent would be the best case scenario wolf3404: no it’s good for coding hikukomoru: They're worth 60 bil .wolfnacht: meanwhile claude's fanboys are literally the most high ones on copium. metaldragon01: Google and Amazon will keep funding wolf3404: how much does it cost? rayanquitplayin: Tech moves so fast metaldragon01: Anthropic isn't throwing it in anytime soon hikukomoru: They're already out of the race hikukomoru: Someone should buy Anthropic .wolfnacht: o4-mini is soo much cheaper and better than 3.7-sonnet-thinking metaldragon01: I think of all the labs anthropic is in the weakest position .wolfnacht: i guess claude might die somewhere in between wolf3404: Including deepminds Google is probably way ahead tbh .wolfnacht: google already planned better for long term than OAI did. metaldragon01: Enterprise to Google and consumers to openai futurist_wizard: Alphafold n shit futurist_wizard: Google is ahead on achievements performed by ai i suppose metaldragon01: I think openai will still have better products
oooooooooog: what are my vibes??????? a1c4p0ne: Let’s see hikukomoru: You're 20 too? You gave me 30 virgin wizard vibes oooooooooog: 2025 take it or leave it a1c4p0ne: AGI 2027 futurist_wizard: I shave mine sarik0497: Welp, looks like it isn’t here I should be while coping my existence 😦 .wolfnacht: i'm 20 and ive got a beard, and most men at 30's don't even have a beard yet. futurist_wizard: You are all children compared to a smart person hikukomoru: DarkStar gives me retirment home vibes ailoveyoom: Fair 😔 hey1_1hey: I had a shiver down my spine reading that oooooooooog: they already here bro hey1_1hey: Yuck oooooooooog: wdym microplastics "soon" hey1_1hey: Yeah dw me to girl 👉 👈 ailoveyoom: Gen alpha ailoveyoom: Microplastics soon 😎 hey1_1hey: "gramps" 28 with child on the way 😭 hikukomoru: ARFID sarik0497: Oh, sweetheart. If only you knew. It’ll come for you too. .wolfnacht: a person's who's 30 rn would be around 50-60s when AGi would arrive hey1_1hey: He must feel like a right acindent mf hikukomoru: Gramps not gonna make it to LEV 🙏 hey1_1hey: Poor darkstar man oooooooooog: ur getting up in the years grandpa ailoveyoom: Bro is 28 smh hikukomoru: Yeah you're 30 right 30+ is ancient oooooooooog: fluoride poisoning sarik0497: Am I really at that age now where everything is “old” 💀 hey1_1hey: Nutrient deficiency hikukomoru: My brain never aged past 12 hey1_1hey: Agreed, I wish I was 13. I could get away with so much shit hey1_1hey: Could've worderd that better 😭 hikukomoru: That's a compliment Being young is awesome ailoveyoom: It's my inner child 🥺 .wolfnacht: i wanna go back being 17 sarik0497: Wauw. …I still hope I make it <:sadge:892224282363588679> hikukomoru: I can't believe you're the same age as me How is that possible You give me teenage boy vibes .wolfnacht: 🤝 i just entered in 20s on 16th march, i hate it now.
metaldragon01: We getting o4 mini so I'm happy either way literallyvarane: But 2.5 is clearly a stronger model darkstar0818: They are saying GPT5 is, as of today, at least 3 months out. This is definitely a delay relative to previous comments. literallyvarane: Sike R1 is still super cheap by comparison. metaldragon01: They implied a delay ldj: When did they say anything about “developing for longer” than previously planned? They never said GPT-5 would be out by now spicy.lemonade: oh shit metaldragon01: 4o ish pricing spicy.lemonade: in terms of price spicy.lemonade: what model is it equal to spicy.lemonade: need comparison literallyvarane: Yeah this is super cheap tbh. literallyvarane: metaldragon01: Openai and Google have different customers spicy.lemonade: 💀 spicy.lemonade: thats literally opposite of what they said metaldragon01: The only lab in trouble is anthropic spicy.lemonade: what? darkstar0818: Developing GPT5 longer results in better results, news at 11. metaldragon01: The small details don't matter much tbh metaldragon01: Guys....AI gets better and we get to use it ldj: Ty for repeating what I just said lol darkstar0818: ``` but the most exciting one is that we are going to be able to make GPT-5 much better than we originally though.``` ldj: No… They literally said: “we are going to be able to make GPT-5 much better than we originally thought” spicy.lemonade: they said it exceeds expecations literallyvarane: Holy shit that’s cheap no? darkstar0818: They said they are reworking gpt5 in that post. ldj: … this doesn’t make sense, if GPT-5 was failing expectations, then o3 pro and o4-mini would make GPT-5 look even worse, not better spacetimetsunami: I’m sure yall have seen this but here spicy.lemonade: for that spicy.lemonade: never made exact date joaoluz19: AVM spicy.lemonade: hes always been honest with timelines spicy.lemonade: i actually dont think he made such a statement spicy.lemonade: when was this spicy.lemonade: eh darkstar0818: to be honest this oai announcement is a retreat in my book. They realized the GPT5 they had planned would not be sota and that if they don't release the best they have right away they will be getting punked on for months. joaoluz19: Last time he spoke a "couple of weeks" ago was like 6 months spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: likeley a week after r2
popsiclejohnithan: If we really have reached innovators then we are in the endgame, things will probabaly get crazy in a matter of months. himekokatagiri: Cloudo can you do hype _cloudost: Strawberry guy 🍓🍓🍓 started all the hype and now every AI company imitates his smart strategy .wolfnacht: either pure fake hype train or somewhere near that. himekokatagiri: have to wait to see hey1_1hey: If the rumours are true I think thats the event horizon for the singularity, we went to level 1 to level to in like a decade (made up number, I couldn't remember), then in a year and a bit we went to reasoners and then a few months later we have agents (operator) and then only a few months after that we have innovators hey1_1hey: Theres a lot of buzz around innovators recently. Does anyone know if theres any merit to the rumors or is it all just hype atm? abundantliving_: abundantliving_: Tweet to app is here abundantliving_: https://x.com/lovable_dev/status/1912157597374775390 abundantliving_: "It never gives up" 😃 abundantliving_: https://x.com/menloresearch/status/1912428454374511065 rayanquitplayin: The beautiful thing is that there’s gonna be an economic Chinese model. DeepSeek proved it rayanquitplayin: I read a little bit about Ray Kurzweil and ChatGPT’s release in 2022 got us closer. DeepSeek created a more efficient way rayanquitplayin: I think we get AGI in 2029 popsiclejohnithan: Definitely. rayanquitplayin: AI governance has a lot of potential rayanquitplayin: I agree, what a time to be alive popsiclejohnithan: We are like kids in a nursery and we need a damn teacher. popsiclejohnithan: People are scared that they will destroy us but i am more scared that we are going to destroy ourselves. popsiclejohnithan: Exactly, that's why i hope we get A.G.I./superintelligence soon, it's a miricle our species has made it this far. rayanquitplayin: Between Trump, Musk, Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong-Un we have some pretty irresponsible world leaders rayanquitplayin: We’ll have AGI popsiclejohnithan: Not overnight, it's going to be a slow and painful death, i hope they do climb themselves out of this hole. rayanquitplayin: I don’t think America’s gonna fall off overnight popsiclejohnithan: I'm just hoping we get superintelligence soon, we clearly cannot be trusted with ourselves as a species. rayanquitplayin: Yeah bruh popsiclejohnithan: Exactly, he's shot himself in the foot, with a fucking shotgun. rayanquitplayin: He wants to renegotiate trade deals but he’s rly just causing inflation popsiclejohnithan: That's if we don't all nuke ourselves. popsiclejohnithan: Honestly it's my opinion that Trump has basically made way for the Chinese century, the jokes on me if this all somehow does make America the winner though. popsiclejohnithan: I wonder how long it can hold out. popsiclejohnithan: He'll shatter it trying to. rayanquitplayin: He wants to bring America back to the past rayanquitplayin: The S&P 500 is still close to it’s all-time highs on the monthly chart popsiclejohnithan: I don't know how causing a recession is exactly going to make america great again but what do i know? popsiclejohnithan: They've only been in office for a few months and they've crashed the economy, imagine how much damage they will do over these 4 years. abundantliving_: https://x.com/realHongyu_Wang/status/1912333722415694124 abundantliving_: https://youtu.be/r45-w5MKOlE _cloudost: 🚨 ⚠️ Good news for <@750270494615404544> 🚨 ⚠️

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