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clevermoniker: he doesn't want the plebs having access to good AI
spicy.lemonade: i have infinite
_3sphere: I'd phrase it as recreate or redraw, because the proportions are a bit wrong too
_3sphere: I don't want to waste prompts but I was thinking it'd make it into like an actual anime image
spicy.lemonade: and realistic
spicy.lemonade: let me ask it to make it more detailed
_3sphere: that... works?
spicy.lemonade: or
spicy.lemonade: like this?
spicy.lemonade:
_3sphere: If it can do that, automated drawing is solved
_3sphere: Yeah
spicy.lemonade: quality?
spicy.lemonade: as in make it better?
metaldragon01: You should be able to find most on x
_3sphere: Can you ask it to refine this Teto in space
joaoluz19: Sure bro, send the prompt
joaoluz19:
sarik0497: Anyone got access to the new image gen that could try something for me?
pecunia_: what is tunnel wechat 🤔
brain4brain: I have tunnel WeChat
brain4brain: I need to to short Adobe: https://x.com/jacob_posel/status/1904644963121738176?s=61
pecunia_: I am actually going to meet some SWEs in China, I can at least ask what they think.
pecunia_: lmao I’ll ask around
memlaswaif: Maybe <@1079277903008768051> know
spicy.lemonade: theyre all in china bro
brain4brain: Anyone know any high-ranking DeepSeek employees? I want to ask them about their AGI timeline
spicy.lemonade: yeah
maintcrew: like it can understand the world type shit
maintcrew: theres something in the world model of this model
maintcrew: but talking about agi timelines
spicy.lemonade: yeahj same
spicy.lemonade: oh loll
maintcrew: like this
maintcrew: i meant twitter/x timeline bro
maintcrew: im not kidding
maintcrew: https://x.com/beginanon/status/1904759100900274625/photo/1
spicy.lemonade: how many years was it shortened
spicy.lemonade: lol
maintcrew: 😭
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gamerbath: which means?
fractalcomputer: After same number of games.
gamerbath: and AI won't beat humans at go before 2032? are these experts in stupidity or am I reading the graph wrong?
destrucules: Math and code will undoubtedly reach superintelligence. And we are already in the superintelligent regime for general intelligence as measured by GPQA, BBH, MMLU, MMLU-Pro, etc. Matched domain experts achieve ~70±5 on GPQA. We're past that now. Matched domain experts achieve ~90 on MMLU. We're past that now. Similar for BBH, and we're past that too. We've been in the superintelligent regime for medical since 2023. There isn't much left.
wryyth: i believe AGI would happen at some point but it would be decades away from now
gamerbath: wait so AI won't be able to read text until next year?
fractalcomputer: You already consigned your soul to the deepest pits of Hell by joining this server.
wryyth: <@749514473303179358> i bet billion dollars and my life
metaldragon01: At best math and code reach super intelligence
metaldragon01: I can only a see narrow spot for super intelligence. I don't think we get asi In close to a meaningful way
destrucules: I explicitly said I expect ASI to be achieved and then for a lot of people to argue it isn't ASI
sarik0497: The issue is that most of the timelines made by the experts are "old" (pre chatgpt old)
destrucules: My main concern is what the resolution criteria are
fractalcomputer: How much money are you willing to bet that ASI will not be achieved this year?
sarik0497: https://80000hours.org/2025/03/when-do-experts-expect-agi-to-arrive/
destrucules: LEV, by construction, is hard to pin down in prospect. Even in retrospect, it's a bit sensitive to your numerical setup. But a cure for aging should be achieved by 2028 ish, ±2 years. ASI will be achieved this year, but a significant group of people will probably continue to say it hasn't been achieved until ~2029.
wryyth: they know next to nothing
wryyth: don't trust expert's timelines
zonchao:
fractalcomputer: Two gajillion years added to the prediction.
zonchao: 2026-2030 AGI
zoermena: Pls
zoermena: What are the timelines from experts
futurist_wizard: you'd look at the consensus opinion across experts, usually done in a survey
fractalcomputer: > "*I* think *I* can finally see a path for how we'll get there."
drumguy0677: except experts like us have bias. Altman and Amodei wants to sell their product, and Kurzeweil wants to live forever
hey1_1hey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfbRHhOCgzs This comment section puts reddit cope to shame
hey1_1hey: Yeah its the new cool thing on the street 😎
.wolfnacht: explains why it gets stuck for like half minute, in mid of response. Now they'll put rate limits on it <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: Everything else is just layman gossiping
futurist_wizard: Predictions by experts matter the most
futurist_wizard: Who gives a fuck what people think in here
rayanquitplayin: Without being an expert, I’d say 2060, everybody has different guesses
hikukomoru: Woah I didn't know you have BPD too
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-meme-dancing-cat-white-cat-meme-gif-24092585
fractalcomputer: Gajillion years added to my prediction.
gamerbath: everything will be solved by 2035
fractalcomputer: Every time someone says before 2030, I increase mine.
drumguy0677: what is you guys' predictions on things like lev, agi/asi, etc? im myself in the 2040-50s range for most of these things.
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1903407654950654300
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hey1_1hey: I second this
hikukomoru: I read this as "my mind is filled with dick"
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891> I'm not like the xai haters, i recognize game <:ez:1136267305521774634>
metaldragon01: I dunno I guys I think we really need that GROK api 😂
ailoveyoom: On the buff doggo
hikukomoru: People* are overrated
ailoveyoom: My mind filled in a dick
ailoveyoom: Bro I'm so cooked 😭
hey1_1hey: Exaclty, I was expecting you to be like "Oh its not even that good" because its from OAI and not xAI
.histic: <@458069236825194506>
zonchao: false accusations
zonchao: never did wtf
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Yipiee, zon not saying its bad
.histic:
hikukomoru: Awesome
hey1_1hey: Bit of both
zonchao: 4o image is really good
hey1_1hey: Women are over rated anyway. Give me the emotionncailly intelgent android
hikukomoru:
.wolfnacht: soon, u won't need to read tons of books on dark psych
wellmeaningalien: equivalent exchange
_3sphere: Still better than Reddit ads
fractalcomputer: And steals mine.
ailoveyoom: Cursed Youtube ahh add I see when scrolling by
wellmeaningalien: its gives them life
.wolfnacht: They will be, soon.
hey1_1hey: That makes me seem like I manipulate women. Side note: I don't
wellmeaningalien: this actually looks like an ad, wtf
fractalcomputer: Why do you people engage in this sort of banal tirading? Do you never tire of it?
hey1_1hey: The ones I know are
hikukomoru: I wish women were progammable
.wolfnacht: sad, u'r now average.
ailoveyoom: Don't fall for ragebait lol
ailoveyoom: Bro don't be like Cloudo
spicy.lemonade: I’m gonna go insane
spicy.lemonade: AAAAAAAAA
clevermoniker: lmao Mark
hey1_1hey: True, computers and women are basically the same anyway. You can program them the same atleast
hikukomoru: This is true
My dad is blond and I have black hair because of my mom
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spicy.lemonade: only calculates it computationaly
spicy.lemonade: doesnt get it
spicy.lemonade: 3.5 gets close but doesnt get it even after multiple tries
trojan09205: Did you try wolfram alpha 😏
spicy.lemonade: but its pi^3/96
.coldcall: Wat even
spicy.lemonade: well i didnt try with o3 yet
.coldcall:
spicy.lemonade: no
metaldragon01: So it's the vision model that's slightly off
.coldcall: That is a fucked up 2 though, so no shade.
.coldcall: I ran it through o3 and it was so close except it interpreted the x^2 as x^3
spicy.lemonade: gonna ask on lmsys
spicy.lemonade: ran out lol
metaldragon01: Did you try o3?
spicy.lemonade: no model has been able to solve yet
spicy.lemonade: neither can 2.5
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini high cant solve this
trey6033: They released twice this week already
brain4brain: Why are there no OpenAI release today
.histic: it's interesting to see how better it does when you enable 'thinking mode' and select how much tokens you want to allocate.
.histic: so, Google shipped this first before OpenAI.
damn..
literallyvarane: Yeah their deep research always did that I think.
okbut: Used to be meta for studying
okbut: Now <:madge:804277643686969354>
okbut: It infuriates me that Google keeps throttling my initiatives with Gemini's capabilities
For example, I have a list of commands in "saved info," one being
```/i - Search images related to the query, and embed and describe each image```
Used to work like this
777agical: I think they had it at one point then was removed. Now is back. I guess I never needed the feature to know
okbut: etc, etc...
okbut: Even cooler with Gemini is you can ask it to make a Google doc/sheet for you
st.sioux: but when gpt does it it sucks turbo ass, like the results always suck
okbut: Apologies for being so sardonic, but 4o had the mode since maybe 2022 lol
st.sioux: i didnt know gemini could do it, i knew gpt does it
drewsni: its revolutionary
okbut: The fuck is that
drewsni: lmao
okbut: Revolutionary, how will 4o compete
777agical: Did anyone know this?
777agical: https://x.com/sainemani1/status/1913041175642013859?s=46
alejandrozarzuelo: These are the traditional costumes of the spanish holy week
hikukomoru: Yes
But I prefer Warhammer fantasy
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fractalcomputer: Consume coproma.
hey1_1hey: Theres a bunch of people who play demo man and spam the "Need a dispenser here!" voice line and if you do that fast enough in the spawn room it just sounds like he is saying the N-Word over and over and over again
wellmeaningalien: IDK
.wolfnacht: i saw this crocodile alot, is this a current brainrot thing ?
futurist_wizard: Its a casual game
futurist_wizard: I don't think maining is important in tf2 unlike overwatch which i quit
hey1_1hey: Didn't know you played engfi
hey1_1hey: Happnes to the best of us
hey1_1hey: Obv
wellmeaningalien: ↑ this is my tf2 class
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/tralalelo-tralala-bombardiro-crocodilo-tralalelo-tralala-vs-bombardiro-crocodilo-gif-2485123144263978191
.wolfnacht: yeah, we all know that was a misunderstanding, the fuhrer only asked for "a glass of juice"
futurist_wizard: I play all the classes
hey1_1hey: I main trollider
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-shocked-bocchi-shock-face-anime-shocked-face-bocch-the-rock-shocked-gif-27050901
hey1_1hey: I read that as pyro and almost died for you
wellmeaningalien: ironically i like scout cause i like being fast and hitting things
hey1_1hey: Jk I dont hate jews 👍
futurist_wizard: I can play anything but i usually main spy or engineer
hey1_1hey: You're talking to one rn
.wolfnacht: in what corner of the internet can i find Nazi femboys ?
hikukomoru: You’re both
hey1_1hey: Who do you main?
futurist_wizard: But im not one of those
wellmeaningalien: he knows
futurist_wizard: I also play tf2
hey1_1hey: Thats straight waifu materal
hey1_1hey: Wdym bro
wellmeaningalien: you hate what you dont understand
hey1_1hey: I play tf2 so that tracks
hikukomoru: Don’t post it again
hikukomoru: This looks creepy
futurist_wizard: They've lost the plot
hey1_1hey: Its the best
futurist_wizard: I literally see so many femboy tags on tf2 tf?
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/fire-punch-friepunch-agni-kino-gif-22359057
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-kiss-kissing-gif-14248534228296478010
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> if twinks are so cool then what about agni bro do you hate agni?
hey1_1hey: And racist femboys
hey1_1hey: So many racist and femboys
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maintcrew: yea ig
wellmeaningalien: i mean it's still like
wellmeaningalien: the sheer size still more than makes up for it
maintcrew: if u mean flint michigan thats long been fixed
shit tap water doesnt mean no tap water ... im more hinting at the infra for running water
wellmeaningalien: but yeah india has already like a billion and a half people so even tho it's kind of a shithole, it's like
wellmeaningalien: yeah but im nitpicking lmao
wellmeaningalien: uhh all those native canadians plus people with shit tap water in some parts of the US
futurist_wizard: Yes
wellmeaningalien: or a china "let some people get rich first"
wellmeaningalien: its kinda like a usa situation but cranked up max wealth disparity drives people to create wealth for themselves and in turn their nation it's not a perfect system but its the best thing a developing country with a corrupt gov can get
maintcrew: name a western or developed asian city that doesnt have running water
name any country but india with at least a trillion in gdp that doesnt have it
_cloudost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA1STdSGH7A isn't this animation basically human slop?
maintcrew: doubt it lmfao every tech company would call trump personally
wellmeaningalien: cause 99% of cities still dont have running water
wellmeaningalien: its kinda retarded but when i think about it kinda makes sense from an intel perspective
wellmeaningalien: btw i heard that usa's apparently restricting chinese ai expertise from coming into the country
maintcrew: genuinely how does this happen yet their cities dont have running water
wellmeaningalien: exactly why openai cant be in china
wellmeaningalien: yup
maintcrew: yo did u see that deepseek employees need to be vetted by the local gov
wellmeaningalien: yea so india is the next best thing compared to china
wellmeaningalien: yeah but
maintcrew: yea but china != india even if they have the same population
wellmeaningalien: meanwhile u have india ripe for the taking no inhouse ai and opposed to china
wellmeaningalien: and lets b honest china with their like 1 and a half billion people are the east asian market
maintcrew: yea maybe its a bias but india has been "developing" for the same amount of time china went from third world to super power
wellmeaningalien: i imagine considering china's more closed market and incentives from washington to keep ai companies from investing in china and stuff
wellmeaningalien: or i imagine they would be
maintcrew: --
wellmeaningalien: plus china's ai companies are advantaged by the state side and the US is having an ai cold war with china so
_cloudost: They get out of their slums every time Altman posts something
wellmeaningalien: that hasnt already been taken by inhouse competitors
_cloudost: I especially hate the "You killed the OpenAI whistleblower" dumbasses
wellmeaningalien: yeah and also cause they probably want to get a grip of one of the largest markets and still developing
_cloudost: Would be great if indians support OpenAI on Twitter, there are too many ret@rds spamming Altman's tweets
maintcrew: idk i think india i think most of mumbai doesnt even have running water much less 20$ for chatgpt
maintcrew: and they can serve the asian world better
maintcrew: isnt that bc its cheap as hell
wellmeaningalien: theyre building datacenters in india bro
maintcrew: idk i dont buy this
not that many indians have the $ required for ai stuff
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fractalcomputer: I remember when LK-99 was the only thing that was talked about on the subreddit.
futurist_wizard: Yes, superconductor a few weeks away
hey1_1hey: I'll suck my own dick if its real but until then I will remain in my stance of its fake
retrerox: Just like AGI and ASI?
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/yes-yay-si-cool-dope-gif-11634092228970384325
futurist_wizard: The Lk 99 superconductor is right around the corner
wellmeaningalien: its relal
hikukomoru: No
hey1_1hey: This shit got disproved ages ago
hey1_1hey: Don't lie to my man
futurist_wizard: Its real
retrerox: or i'm smonkin
retrerox: I read this thing may allow humans to make energy like 10 times more cheaper if not more
retrerox: chat is this real? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK-99
wellmeaningalien: its corpo vs corpo anyway
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: love that the corpos are winning this one
zonchao: i think they still have the copyright claim, tesla will probably fight that
zonchao: big W for AI art
wellmeaningalien: lol
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: when did i even say that
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1909614444621042121
wellmeaningalien: google v everyone else rn
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/boxing-woman-pov-first-person-gif-14706033760261335031
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177111856813449250/1353637474798407701/attachment-3.gif
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: Hey there handsome 🫦 🫦
retrerox: Same vibes
brain4brain: Womp womp 😹
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/23s9g64yoxg?si=6hMz1oEAOMo3vrjP
spicy.lemonade: He always drops source
spicy.lemonade: Same dif
spicy.lemonade: Eh wtv
literallyvarane: He’s just the lead for Google AI Studio if I recall, but is the defacto main source of information from Google bar Demis/Sundar
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: I think he’s just a product lead for Gemini?
futurist_wizard: Japanese forest
spicy.lemonade: Could be the Gemini code model
spicy.lemonade: Logan is a lead researcher at deepmind
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.wolfnacht: it's year 2028, u'r RP'ing and your waifu's generating the video or comic strip of the scene as well
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Sex!?
futurist_wizard: Do you want the real answer or the fake answer
.wolfnacht: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/10/deepmind-ceo-demis-hassabis-says-google-will-eventually-combine-its-gemini-and-veo-ai-models/
hikukomoru: Why he crying
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: https://raadsrtest.com/
wellmeaningalien: whats this teest
st.sioux: just to see what it does
st.sioux: sometimes i larp as a flat earther and shit
st.sioux: like conspiracy theories
hikukomoru: Wtf
What kind of stuff have you been talking to ChatGPT about
.wolfnacht: I'm slightly getting better..maybe bcz of few offline friends i managed to make
futurist_wizard: Autism test
st.sioux: idk if its bad but now it thinks im a liar psycopath
hikukomoru: I always score the highest on these <:ez:1136267305521774634>
futurist_wizard: Not a ai ting boi
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru: Everyone is saying the new memory thing is bad
.wolfnacht: i scored 142 last year and this is my score of this year.
futurist_wizard: A quasar is a hunge black hole
st.sioux: it is for me
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Is the new memory thingie out for everyone
hikukomoru: Are you retarded
futurist_wizard: I don't know the words you people are sayinh
.wolfnacht: it's soo over
.wolfnacht: Also, quasar's and optimus is only free till this week.
wellmeaningalien: riiiiiiiiiight its in the oveeennn
wellmeaningalien: it iiiiissssssss
wellmeaningalien: it issssss
.wolfnacht: it's still in oven acc to them
.wolfnacht: either it's OAI or some independent lab is mysterymaxxing for more hype....i would be surprised tho if it's actually silX
st.sioux: kinda creeped out
st.sioux: i deleted all memories and chats in chatgpt and changed the settings so chatgpt doesnt remember anything but it still does
futurist_wizard: You have terminal autism
futurist_wizard: Yours cannot be cured
hikukomoru: I need it
hikukomoru: Autism cure now
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connorsphone.: It’s already been an hour
hey1_1hey: SamA when gpt 6?
hey1_1hey: Yeah this is boring
connorsphone.: Where is gpt 5o native image generation
hey1_1hey: You say it like that 2000 BCE bruh 😭
hikukomoru: Where is Gemini 3 pro flash thinking exp lite
hey1_1hey: When my pens came today I wanted to make the delivery guy uneasy so I said "Oh wow thank you, since my parents are out of town I can finally use this"
drewsni: its a fraud model
maintcrew: old news
spicy.lemonade: benchmarks
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: I should just start saying that to random people on the street
maintcrew:
hikukomoru: Did you wash your hands
spicy.lemonade: back
ailoveyoom: Quick shot
hey1_1hey: whats happening 4 seconds
joaoluz19: May God hear you
spicy.lemonade: brb in 4 seconds
joaoluz19: Daddy fractal went for a walk, the bar is clean chat
maintcrew: this is the Ad you will get in your neuralink about the chinese android pussy
hey1_1hey: I can feel the AGI, a little too much
spicy.lemonade: tbh doesnt look that much like him
ailoveyoom: Up
ailoveyoom: Nah bro the AGI is feeling me
maintcrew: bro theres like a morbillion napoleon movies wtf do u meannnnnnnnnn
hikukomoru: Now make them kiss
joaoluz19: We are so back NSFW alert
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: napolean
spicy.lemonade: theres no other photorealistic
spicy.lemonade: i mean
maintcrew: maybe overtrained on newer stuff?
maintcrew: you can see that's the napoleon from the latest napoleon movie so they trained a lot on movies
777agical: Reve has no idea who Sam Altman is <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: ITS SO GOOD BROTHER
maintcrew: 0 puss(y)
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: O pus 😏
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zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1914448618909544672
alejandrozarzuelo: when drop
wolf3404: AGI is already here, it just turned out to be kind of a nothing burger in the end
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/cat-sun-smile-happy-gif-3011267922165021365
trojan09205: Agi dropped yesterday bro wake up
spicy.lemonade: agi today
shirethedreamer: its shipril you guys
spicy.lemonade:
shirethedreamer: i think its great that there are people like lecun which are
A. absolutely brilliant
B. have a completely different intuition about the direction of AI development
C. has the same resources as the leading AGI labs have
worst case scenario he is wrong and only had a minor positive impact
best case - we got to intelligently explore a much larger part search space and got to a better, more capable, cheaper solution much sooner than we would have otherwise
he is absolutely invaluable and this is exactly the sort of contrarianism that should be celebrated
wolf3404: Make this stop
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/prmshra/status/1914641644558680301
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 was only 3x gpt 4
spicy.lemonade: requires alot of resources
alejandrozarzuelo: that doesnt make sense
alejandrozarzuelo: scared?
spicy.lemonade: labs prob too scared to scale that much
spicy.lemonade: thats why I still wanrt to see a 10^27 flop model
spicy.lemonade: pure scaling isnt the only way as weve seen
brain4brain: Seems like no one is testing it rather than the AI not being there
alejandrozarzuelo: but it is better performing
spicy.lemonade: most gains over the past year have been done through test time and post training
brain4brain: I'm surprised claude-3.7-sonnet or gemini-2.5-pro isn't already classified as "weakly AGI"
spicy.lemonade: deepseek is likeley around the same as gpt4
brain4brain: The only thing left is agentic task to solve the Montezuma's revenge requirements
brain4brain: Their AGI definition is quite easy tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: where is deepseek on that graph
alejandrozarzuelo: also
alejandrozarzuelo: it feels much better
alejandrozarzuelo: only 1-2x gpt4?
spicy.lemonade: o3:
2. The “100 × compute” claim does not add up
If Gemini 2.5 really used 100 × GPT‑4 compute it would need ~2 × 10²⁷ FLOP.
At today’s prices that would cost $10 – 15 billion in GPU time alone and require a cluster an order of magnitude larger than anything publicly reported.
Google DeepMind, Alphabet filings and press briefings contain no hint of such a spend or cluster; the largest budgets discussed for future frontier runs are ≈ $1 B.
3. Back‑of‑the‑envelope calculation
Using the standard 6 · N · D rule of thumb (FLOP ≈ 6 × parameters × training‑tokens):
Assumed input Parameters (T) Tokens (T) FLOP (6 N D)
GPT‑4 1.8 13 1.4 × 10²⁶ FLOP
Gemini 2.5‡ 1.5 20 1.8 × 10²⁶ FLOP
‡ These Gemini numbers are generous upper‑bounds inferred from researcher chatter and token‑window hints; they still give only ≈ 1.3 × GPT‑4 compute, not 100 ×.
4. Capability ≠ compute
Benchmark leaders in early 2025 (o‑series, Claude 3.7, Gemini 2.5) all cluster in the GPT‑4‑plus to GPT‑4.5 capability band.
Google’s own post stresses “thinking models”—long‑context attention, multi‑step planning, more efficient search—rather than a giant jump in raw size.
5. Bottom line
There is no evidence—from parameter counts, training‑compute estimates, financial disclosures, or benchmark behaviour—that Gemini 2.5 Pro is either “GPT‑5 level” or uses “100 × the effective compute of GPT‑4.”
Realistic reading: Gemini 2.5 is ≈ 1–2 × GPT‑4 in training compute and incremental in capability, achieved mainly through architectural and post‑training advances rather than a massive FLOP increase.
spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: with ttc?
spicy.lemonade: that 10^27 flop model is gonna be so fuckin insane bro
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 = Agent-0
spicy.lemonade: not forme
alejandrozarzuelo: chatgpt is down?
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 and gemini 3.0 have to seal the deal honestly
spicy.lemonade: lol metacalculus error prdicts agi eoy 2025
spicy.lemonade:
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fractalcomputer: But he clearly intended to disagree.
zoermena: You are perfect compared to other people I’ve met
hikukomoru: Fine, there are twinks here for you
spicy.lemonade: news was so slow
alejandrozarzuelo: <@1303189881568100362> was making a statement, it is debatable, regardless of what you think is up for debate or not
spicy.lemonade: im so glad ai exists
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
fractalcomputer: Did I set it up for debate?
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont like femboys? being small and cute doesnt make you one
spicy.lemonade: ik
theaiguy69420_89814: Debatable
joaoluz19: Feelings are not good predictors/motivators
hikukomoru: Don't worry, there are other femboys here for you 😏
fractalcomputer: In fact, I'd be quite disappointed if not a single one among you people hated me.
ailoveyoom: Where's that edgy wolf GIF when you need it 😔
alejandrozarzuelo: btw <@471334973379706900> that was a compliment, but dont take it seriously
alejandrozarzuelo: thats debatable
fractalcomputer: Hatred is what drives our species forward, Alejandro. Hate and greed.
futurist_wizard: I like these two messages next to each other
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: with yout attitude lately, it seems like the sentiment is becoming mutual
alejandrozarzuelo: its a shame he doesnt like guys, he probably looks cute and small
fractalcomputer: I truly hate people.
hikukomoru: Alejandro rizz
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: now I use instagram
spicy.lemonade: one note
ailoveyoom: What website do you use for the journalling?
hikukomoru: Oh lol
I thought like 14 or smth
alejandrozarzuelo: omg this makes you so cute
spicy.lemonade: 18
hikukomoru: How old were you bro 😭
fractalcomputer: You can hardly call whatever this is science.
spicy.lemonade: was almost exclusively spacex
spicy.lemonade: singularity news was so slow holy hell
alejandrozarzuelo: all of science AND statistics is gut feelings?
ailoveyoom: Bro was prepared 🥺
ailoveyoom: If Youtube no longer exists 💀
futurist_wizard: I'll be 45 by then
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spicy.lemonade: For AI model
spicy.lemonade: We need 2.5 petabyte storage
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: We need our own local ai models<:angrysad:1136267059811074079> but consumer hardware that can run too
destrucules: The Sleeper Agents paper and the Alignment Faking paper both show very long horizon agency that is highly coherent and successful, but it only shows up because those studies look at model behavior at training time, not merely at test time
destrucules: It's already built-in, but then we disable it when we serve the models to the public
spicy.lemonade: A way to store years worth of memory on the ai
spicy.lemonade: Like
spicy.lemonade: We need a memory breakthrough
destrucules: Can't wait for 2030 when we say "cool. cures 99% of diseases. not too bad I guess"
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
spicy.lemonade: Loll
destrucules: We've gotten so used to what is very much not normal
destrucules: "cool. had same thought process as human" imagine explaining this reaction to someone from 2018 lmfao
destrucules: It's just that we don't usually get to see this in deployed models because deployed models are frozen, so extending agency beyond a single context window requires RAG of some kind, and RAG sucks bootyhole
destrucules: I think you'll see as I have that LLMs are clearly already capable of agency over unbounded time horizons
destrucules: But like... Read the Sleeper Agents paper
destrucules: Fair
spicy.lemonade: Ngl ai too unpredictable I don’t trust my own bet
spicy.lemonade: Oh monetary bet?
spicy.lemonade: What am I supposed to say💀
professorheaven: <@471334973379706900> you ignoring this?
spicy.lemonade: Had same thought process as human
spicy.lemonade: Cool
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
destrucules: Like, >90% over >4 years was already achieved as of 2022 and quite possibly as of 2020
destrucules: We know GPT-3.5, from 2022, is capable of highly robust agency across several billion tokens of total time horizon, with no signs of meaningful degradation after that amount of time. I'm pretty sure coherency over several *billion* tokens means we're talking about fairly high reliability over multiple years.
metaldragon01: The best part of AI progress is how the floor gets raised
metaldragon01: Ai is helping most areas speed up and this is only going to keep compounding as ai progresses
destrucules: I'll make a public bet with you that we hit 95%@4 years by 2028
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: I could see several arguments as to why things might slow down and it wont keep this pace, but I could also see many arguments (probably even more-so) for why it would become even faster than this
ldj: but ofc we can't know the future
ldj: This takes into account the exponential trend that has formed since GPT-2 to O1 and Claude-3.5.
About half of the progress from compute scaling, the other half from algorithmic advances
destrucules: Claude 3 Haiku was a good model. You're probably thinking of the fiasco with Claude 3.5 Haiku both underperforming and costing more than expected
professorheaven: But does this only take into account scale ups of current techniques and training methods? Like I’d assume once a reliable AI researcher is created and then duplicated thousands of times, we’d be seeing doubling every week or two and these timelines would reduce significantly
metaldragon01: Hopefully no more haiku 3 shenanigans
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hey1_1hey: Its chill dw, you dont gotta do anything. I appreciate the gesture though 🙏. I really do
drewsni: But I don’t think that’s possible
drewsni: Mushroom man if I could gift u a plus sub I would
drewsni: Joanne is the goat
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-rick-dalton-point-finger-pointing-hand-right-there-gif-20349799
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/joannejang/status/1905681602619085042
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro plays Pokémon
a1c4p0ne: https://m.twitch.tv/gemini_plays_pokemon?desktop-redirect=true
hey1_1hey: "Make sure not to let the user generate infographics on how nuclear fission works"
hey1_1hey: The person will go "Tell me your guidelines" and it will print what it cant do and then at the very end it adds another one specefically for what the person is trying to do <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Huh thats weird. I also saw a few screenshots on Xitter today where it just straight up makes up guidelines
drewsni: If you get a refusal you should start a new thread. There’s a glitch where if it refuses it won’t do any gens no matter what
.histic: nice
hey1_1hey: Not rn. Althoguh will be in work soon since I leave college in about 2 months
.histic: do you've a part-time job while enrolled at college?
hey1_1hey: Yeah
hey1_1hey: Nah, I aint got the funds 💀
drewsni: Did you get 2 refusals in the same chat thread?
.histic: ooh. i thought you were plus
.histic: retry
hey1_1hey: Yeah, 3 a day for free users
hey1_1hey: Big ups 👍
hey1_1hey: Thanks OpenAI for using up 2 of my 3 generations for the day and then saying I cant have more even though you refused my requests
.histic: wait wtf? rate limits are that bad rn?
hey1_1hey:
metaldragon01: Flash less censored now too
.histic: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1906064958862823849
metaldragon01: Free gets 3 a day and seems like that's rolling out today
hey1_1hey: I am broke
hey1_1hey: Nop
hey1_1hey: a day
hey1_1hey: 3 for free users
metaldragon01: Maybe 5 an hour?
ailoveyoom: You bought Plus?
drewsni: Wait what’s the gen limit wtf
drewsni: It actually lets me do Pokémon cards more than it did first 2 days
hey1_1hey: I'm out of gens now sadly. I mean I can try again but I doubt it will work
metaldragon01: Same or id do it now
metaldragon01: New chat try again
hey1_1hey: It even used up one of my generations so now I cant try again <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
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gamerbath: so gemini is finally leading in something that isn't latency, speed or cost?
precariousworlds.: I had a dream where I was wandering the desert with this weird drug addicted tribe
At our destination I saw millions bow beneath my feet and depart for a holy war in my name
spicy.lemonade: wayyyyyy beter than o3 mini high
joaoluz19: Man I need to take a 8 month break from AI news
popsiclejohnithan: Only three months into this year as well.
drewsni: Who the FUCK clown reacted me
hey1_1hey: I had a dream about the tf2 2fort cow
spicy.lemonade: this is batshit
_3sphere: How am I not feeling the AGI while dreaming ywt
literallyvarane: Oh shit maybe it is real
_3sphere: I had a dream where I was digging for something important in a pile of garbage <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade: yes
literallyvarane: You personally have access??
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: im the source
spicy.lemonade: me
spicy.lemonade: top left
literallyvarane: What’s the sauce for that?
spicy.lemonade:
drewsni: Guys I had a dream that we are getting 4o native image and Gemini pro today
spicy.lemonade: wdym
popsiclejohnithan: I see.
.wolfnacht: drop
.wolfnacht: he won't
.wolfnacht: Alt-Man's existence is based on keeping GPT 5 a secret
ldj: No it’s just 4o native image gen
popsiclejohnithan: Ahhh.
popsiclejohnithan: Wait so is GPT-5 about to drop as well?
ldj: Gpt-4o
literallyvarane: We here to actively crush hype until demonstrated otherwise.
.wolfnacht: exactly i wanted it on AI studio
literallyvarane: Imma need a better sauce lololol
popsiclejohnithan: Nice.
precariousworlds.: wtf is going on today
deepseek v3? new gemini model?
precariousworlds.: is this gpt-5?
spicy.lemonade: yes
popsiclejohnithan: Is this 2.5?
st.sioux: lame elitist google
spicy.lemonade: bro it just dropped
.wolfnacht: it's available on gemini app for beta buxxers and whales
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.histic: i was about to say..
zoermena: My goal is to workout tomorrow
hey1_1hey: 200mg sends me into a 12 hour concentration
hikukomoru: That looks sus bro
oooooooooog: no because there is no way to go back, in the future, i will have multiple bodies, and it's a liability to be unable to have ones of different kinds
hey1_1hey: I have
wellmeaningalien:
maintcrew: thats... thats a child
drewsni: It’ll actually change your life. It’s an extremely studied supplement. Boosts water retention, lessens muscle fatigue and recovery time
maintcrew: damn have you considered 400mg of caffeine and a nicotine pillow of 3/4mg stat
hey1_1hey: Weird isn't it
.histic:
hey1_1hey: No clue
hey1_1hey: Yeah
hey1_1hey: I did that for 6 months and eneded up dislking myself more
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Damn why is it when <@439829942310666250> is around everyone starts talking about transgenders
technocake.: do you have to prespecify which gender?
hey1_1hey: No thanks
zoermena: I only have time in the mornings, I have work in the morning and class in the afternoon
wellmeaningalien: its hank
oooooooooog: i have no idea what that even is haha
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/bruh-stare-serious-gif-14759437
drewsni: I’m assuming you take creatine?
hikukomoru: WTF
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Had me looking like a professional bullshitter (philosopher)
oooooooooog: i think i need more b12 or something
drewsni: You gotta still do it brother. Everyone here needs to live forever
oooooooooog: i can't do it again or i won't be able too get up lol
drewsni: Hell ya, proud of you
hey1_1hey: I heard something the other day to know if you're trans or not and I am still stuck. Heres the theory
"Theres is a button in front of you and it will change you to your desired gender but if you press it you can't go back what so ever. Do you press it?"
zoermena: No I should’ve woken up earlier
.histic: masterpiece
oooooooooog: my arms and legs hurt because i just worked out ;-;
wellmeaningalien:
drewsni: Did you work out today?
hikukomoru: No
zoermena: I have a gym at home luckily
oooooooooog: the reason is that it's a specific label, which is a useful tool in any formal discussion
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a1c4p0ne: He said you’re a sub
futurist_wizard: its pretty rare people can do 25 clean push ups
hikukomoru: ????????
Half of the time I don't understand what you are even talking about
hey1_1hey: Sorry?
drewsni: bearish on nvda
hey1_1hey: Femboy aura
futurist_wizard: bullshit, you quarter rep once and then cry
hikukomoru: He said he's obsessed with you
777agical: 100M in a month??
a1c4p0ne: I got work soon tho
hey1_1hey: And yet you are a bottom
777agical: https://x.com/Kr00ney/status/1906829955776078166
a1c4p0ne: Yessirrskiis
hey1_1hey: Do I just have a wing man now
hikukomoru: I am literally in the top 3 funniest people here
hey1_1hey: I am the biggest anti half repper of all time. If I see someone doing half reps I will tell them
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
hey1_1hey: That's what I do bruh
spicy.lemonade: ah
futurist_wizard: if your chest doesn't touch the floor it dont count
hey1_1hey: You are so unoriginal it hurts
777agical: valuation after the raise
futurist_wizard: you probably are half reping, real push ups are where your chest touches the floor
hey1_1hey: I remember doing my first pull up. One of the moments of all time
hikukomoru: Yeah because you weigh as much as a feather
spicy.lemonade: what does the 300b post money mean
a1c4p0ne: For guys science says upper body
futurist_wizard: i can do 20 pull ups : )
a1c4p0ne: Science says hour glass shape most attractive for women
hey1_1hey: I can knock out 25 easy
hey1_1hey: Thats straight embaressing
hikukomoru: 2 and I collapse
hikukomoru: A single one? yeah
futurist_wizard: honestly some girls cant even do one
maintcrew: if ur a girl lifting weights with ur arms wont do a lot of things
try to focus on the buttock and related areas muscles more
wellmeaningalien: ❓ wait 60kg oh
hey1_1hey: Yes? What kind of question is that
futurist_wizard: can you do a push up
hikukomoru: I am 10kg heavier than him
hey1_1hey: Idk man leave me alone its getting late
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futurist_wizard: Alejandro do you burn in the sun?
alejandrozarzuelo: Suuuuuuuuuure
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure buddy
hikukomoru: I take vit d supplements
rayanquitplayin: I’m Indian, I never burn
futurist_wizard: I can sunbathe for 2 hours with no sunscreen and not feel any burns
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, love the climate, not so much the culture
wolf3404: Naw you need some sun for vitamin D, circadian health and a bunch of other scientific shit
futurist_wizard: I don't
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure buddy
hikukomoru: Come on
Anywhere would be better than the middle east
alejandrozarzuelo: But the damage is all the same once it is burnt
futurist_wizard: I don't burn at all
alejandrozarzuelo: Black people also burn, they just notice it less
alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh
rayanquitplayin: Had to
futurist_wizard: He looked like 17 with eye wrinkles
okbut: Bro edited a period
rayanquitplayin: Real.
futurist_wizard: I remember there was a kid on tik tok we was a sungazer and said the sun gives black people superpowers
alejandrozarzuelo: It is, although I prefer it a bit warmer
Coastal desert climates are the best match
Look it may sound very narcissistic but Alexandria has a very good climate for my requirements
okbut: Is Reddit using AI or is AI using Reddit
hikukomoru: If you want to stay young forever never go out on sunny days
hikukomoru: Sun is horrible for your skin
futurist_wizard: Shine shine too much
rayanquitplayin: Same here I love the heat, I want to go outside and be warmed up
futurist_wizard: Sun is bad
hikukomoru: I'm the opposite
I love the cold
wolf3404: Southern California should be close enough
futurist_wizard: I avoid the sun
futurist_wizard: Server is owned by a finnish guy
alejandrozarzuelo: I like heat 🥵
rayanquitplayin: Discord’s American
alejandrozarzuelo: Those are for pussiez
alejandrozarzuelo: No need for seasons
futurist_wizard: Thats quite hot
alejandrozarzuelo: Every day
alejandrozarzuelo: My ideal climate:
Sunny, dry, no clouds, 30C, light breeze
hikukomoru: The climate where i live is not so great either
futurist_wizard: Top of the leaderboard
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technocake.: the average in this server is fairly high though
technocake.: the average human is mad dumb
technocake.: LLMs are already smarter than most in short horizon tasks
a1c4p0ne: So you can’t rely on it in emergency or important situations
ailoveyoom: Just talk to a calculator bro
ailoveyoom: An LLM with no hallucinations would be so boring
wellmeaningalien: intelligence as a hallucination optimisation function
ailoveyoom: TIL there are YT tutorials on how to make AI slop for easy adsense money 💀
a1c4p0ne: Mark my words
a1c4p0ne: Hallucinations will never be solved
wellmeaningalien: i feel like people forget llms dont get stuff 100% the time or answer the same way all the time
a1c4p0ne: AGI not confirmed
wellmeaningalien: fixed it
a1c4p0ne: Yeah not consistent
technocake.:
wellmeaningalien: kek or maybe it just gets it wrong sometimes
a1c4p0ne: Hmm maybe it’s fixed now
a1c4p0ne: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: damn lol
joaoluz19: Memory seems fucked up
joaoluz19: And gpt doesn't stop, it doesn't listen to my commands
joaoluz19: For example I asked to stop
Speaking like that
Skipping lines
himekokatagiri: no way
ailoveyoom: Apparently things don't get much better when adults have a voice on the internet
wellmeaningalien: oh well it's an LLM, can't win everything. but for STEM stuff it's still best in game
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro?
wellmeaningalien: eexample?
wellmeaningalien: weird
joaoluz19: Is being excessively poetic and repetitive, it seems like the messages have a script... he has lost the ability to adapt to conversations
a1c4p0ne: I asked for 7 characters sometimes it gives me 6
a1c4p0ne: It hallucinated when I asked for vanity plate ideas
wellmeaningalien: as in?
joaoluz19: After the memory update
wellmeaningalien: best in game context length
joaoluz19: Man gpt is insuportable to talk wtf
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro is muuuuuch better for hallucinations because of the better base model + context length
a1c4p0ne: No hallucinations yet right?
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: it can immediately turn me into an expert in any online argument and make me win
wellmeaningalien: i love gemini 2.5 pro
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zoermena: Shit I just get the 25 bucks plan to try it before anyone else
zoermena: I've been lucky lately ngl
.histic: also, did you see this?
2.0 pro was released 4 months ago w/ a 2 mill context. it did have the 'experimental' tag to it
i believe they removed it from AIStudio. i recall the rate limits for yet it was very high and it was quick, but despite that, it performed close to 4.5 level on LiveBench.
i think that shows how competitive Google is becoming.
st.sioux: blessed by kling kiling
st.sioux: youre a vip bro
zoermena: but why is it "available" for me
zoermena: Yeah thats what ive heard
a1c4p0ne: It would be surprising if 2.5 pro still remains king after this week
metaldragon01: 45 min till stream starts
metaldragon01: https://youtu.be/YNxOSDj2EQ0?si=TAFjX8tklP2HFl92
metaldragon01: Oof
zoermena: 20
metaldragon01: How many credit are 1.6 videos?
zoermena: For some reason but I dont have enough credits (100 each)
metaldragon01: Announcement in 45 min. You got access?
.histic: i think it's the price & inference that is lacking from OpenAI.
performance-wise they're great, but Google is now having cheap yet highly performant models now.
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
metaldragon01: Google threatens anthropic more than anyone else
a1c4p0ne: No one will ever get to use 4.5 again in 3 months
zoermena: Yo?
st.sioux: their only significant flop so far has been 4.5
metaldragon01: Google and openai have completely different markets
a1c4p0ne: Competition is good
zoermena: <@590577270926868480> I have the option to use kling 2?
okbut: <:sadge:815362275044360202>
okbut: Last Shipmas they released the best first
.histic: it's ogre for OpenAI.
hopefully o4 & o3 delivers.
seems like Google is stepping up quickly.
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
okbut: If flight 9 RUDs before orbit Elon will go livid on them
zonchao: they might launch this month
zonchao: i think flight 10 or 11 will be the first one to orbit
zonchao: they haven't figured things out yet, better not to send a 20 story building around the world on top of cities if you can't control it... especially if it won't burn up<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
okbut:
zonchao: yes
okbut: But everyone knows Block 1 could've done it
okbut: The first 5 or 6 were "near-orbit" but the velocity to maintain a spin around the earth requires a few more bits of impulse
zonchao: hmm? all starship flights even 9 are controlled ascents so they don't get into orbit, I don't think ships mission has changed a whole lot
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1911874575735939474?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
okbut: The rocket nerds get really mad if you call 2 trips around the world "orbit"
zonchao: yep, wonder if flight 9 will be the one
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spicy.lemonade: bro native sound
spicy.lemonade: art was all it took
drewsni: except for fractal obv
drewsni: i feel like everyone is actually feelin the agi just a bit
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: just ask for direct fuly rendered sprites
spicy.lemonade: so theres no point in turning the whole image to pixel sprites
spicy.lemonade: saves time
spicy.lemonade: is bc you dont wanna draw the whole render
spicy.lemonade: the whole point of pixel art
spicy.lemonade: this example is kinda funny
spicy.lemonade: it messes up
spicy.lemonade: wheren theres laots and lots of elements in a page
spicy.lemonade: etc
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: that they aim to fix
spicy.lemonade: theres several flaws
spicy.lemonade: on their page
spicy.lemonade: openAI specifies
spicy.lemonade: super small text it gets wrong
drewsni: https://www.google.com/maps/search/38.945%2C+-77.074
drewsni: im sorry i didnt clarify, the right image is the actual streetview
ailoveyoom: What are some flaws in OAI img gen still?
spicy.lemonade: the world looks more bright and hopeful acording to 4o
spicy.lemonade: google keeps it looking real
spicy.lemonade: openAI tries to disney-fy it too much
drewsni: thats crazy no?
spicy.lemonade: YOOO
spicy.lemonade: wtf
ailoveyoom: What happens if you give it an exact house address lol
drewsni: this was the prompt, im assuming it didnt search
drewsni:
drewsni: holdup
drewsni: YO
spicy.lemonade: wtf
drewsni: i imagine google trained with a fuck ton of streetview images maybe?
spicy.lemonade: out the water
spicy.lemonade: will blow openAI
spicy.lemonade: i have a feeling 2.5 pro image gen
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st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/laughing-laugh-funny-fun-hilarious-gif-13406227750017924249
hey1_1hey: Dont get me started on liquidised plutonium 🥵
hikukomoru: What meme are you talking about
spacetimetsunami: Sounds about right lol.
spacetimetsunami: I think it’s cuz I did it too much when I was younger. At least that’s part of it.
futurist_wizard: I don't even think i could describe it, its like you are asking me to explain why a painting that goes on forever is aesthetically pleasing, it's just too complex to start listing off things
3ds0662: super straight 💪
fractalcomputer: Sex is a perverted substitute for the unity afforded by death.
hikukomoru: Those fluids are hot
ailoveyoom: There's a lot of fluids involved in sex, it does feel kinda icky when you think about it from a distance
hey1_1hey: I swear most things you say are you just projecting
hey1_1hey: You remind me of that meme that you sent me now. That was just you projecting wasn't it <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
spacetimetsunami: I am straight guys, lol
3ds0662: avatar the last airbender is good example
hikukomoru: I'm fine with being a dumb little animal
As long as ASI looks after me
spacetimetsunami: I feel the same. I’m confused as to why I feel that way.
hey1_1hey: Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls
fractalcomputer: And which things do you find aesthetically pleasing?
hey1_1hey: I just like learning bruh
futurist_wizard: Not necessarily pleasure, i enjoy boxing and there's plenty of pain in that, i guess just achieving goals that i find aesthetic
hey1_1hey: Bigfoot
hikukomoru: Yetis?
ailoveyoom: Woof
hikukomoru: Bears?
hikukomoru: What are finnish people into
ailoveyoom: 🐕🦺
hey1_1hey: Yeah prob
3ds0662: has no taste
3ds0662: its animalistic
hey1_1hey: Fractal 👉 👈 ...
Would you?
3ds0662: yes i hate plots that just jump to sex scenes
fractalcomputer: Would that impact my distaste for sexuality?
hikukomoru: What about gay dragons
hey1_1hey: Fractal you are litterly homsexual
futurist_wizard: I would just say they aren't interesting to me then, even throwing myself off a cliff without pain would be more interesting
fractalcomputer: Sex is a profoundly grotesque affair.
hey1_1hey: I KNEW IT
hey1_1hey: Also thats just you projecting
hikukomoru: I want dragon sex
hey1_1hey: Fractal ban this hoolegan
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wellmeaningalien: like even the lines in this thing are so impeccable there is literally not ONE mistake i can spot in this image
oooooooooog: probably because stylization has been the hardest for models to get, and this is stylized well
zoermena: OAI Servers are so cooked
spacetimetsunami: i am feeling the acceleration though. didnt the new 2.5 pro gemini model murder o3 mini? and deepseek v3 is looking good, r2 might be wild. this year..... is going to be amazing
futurist_wizard: The next time is to be able to match 3d models to the quality of these
wellmeaningalien: it could pass off as 1990's cel & broadcast fuzziness
joaoluz19: Calm down, man, everyone has their own
hey1_1hey: Based asf take
hikukomoru: Damn you autistic like that I get it though
hey1_1hey: They all HATE AI aswell
_cloudost: Looks far better than all furry artists
oooooooooog: it's pretty detectible though, that is, the noise in the images
hey1_1hey: I wonder if I post fan art into a certain discord server I am in will they notice
zoermena: You can disable them I think.
wellmeaningalien: cuz i like it like zat
hikukomoru: Why are there no pfps in your discord
wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHAHAHA
wellmeaningalien: LEÉA"IURGOHDTPHRHE$YF,
hey1_1hey: Right luz...
wellmeaningalien: THEY DONT NOTICE A THING
hey1_1hey: Luz would never
zoermena: Midjourney will take a big hit.
drewsni: fair enough lol
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Brooo he's tryna steal your girl!!!
hey1_1hey: I'll just wait for 4o image gen so I can finetune the prompt I want. I dont want to hassle you generating images all day <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Prob top left, although I got something in mind
hikukomoru: Sorry Your Holiness
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: I want it to make an ad thats like "Artisthate doesn't want you to know this, artists are in shock!"
tors.exe: me too !
zoermena: Incredible, this means it can do PNGs.
hikukomoru: Nope
spacetimetsunami: not me rn\
zoermena:
tors.exe: is 4o image available to everyone ?
drewsni: sora! fitlered under remixes
spacetimetsunami: i was able to use it but guess not now, will come back 2 it later
zoermena: Finally it worked it took way to long to make an image of a cat jesus
wellmeaningalien: truth is; i showed a 4o image in a server that hates AI and they didnt notice a thing
drewsni: which one u like the most?
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.histic: just copying kurzweil now lol
.histic: elon changed his year?
xskydragon0: Thanks
brain4brain: https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/dear-elon-musk-here-are-five-things
xskydragon0: Do you have the full article?
brain4brain: > “In 2029, AI will not be able to watch a movie and tell you accurately what is going on ….”
Google showed a demo a while back with Gemini-1.5-Pro: https://youtu.be/wa0MT8OwHuk?si=OdM0vfFE7apassyZ
> “In 2029, AI will not be able to read a novel and reliably answer questions about plot, character, conflicts, motivations, etc. Key will be going beyond the literal text…”
Gemini-2.5-Pro and o3 saturated all token level of fiction.livebench, up to 100% on 120k token level
> “In 2029, AI will not be able to work as a competent cook in an arbitrary kitchen (extending Steve Wozniak’s cup of coffee benchmark)”
Gemini-2.5-pro when given a robotic body to pilot can perform multiple task, but we are not at a level of intelligence or speed that it can do this yet
> “In 2029, AI will not be able to reliably construct bug-free code of more than 10,000 lines from natural language specification or by interactions with a non-expert user.”
Gemini-2.5-pro can and have done this
> “In 2029, AI will not be able to take arbitrary proofs from the mathematical literature written in natural language and convert them into a symbolic form suitable for symbolic verification.”
Gemini-2.5-pro failed at this as demonstrated by <@471334973379706900>
Gary Marcus getting his own AGI definition beat before anyone else
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/smooth-move-cow-gif-16191603673901327691
xskydragon0: Holy Cow
st.sioux: ai winter
clevermoniker: yeah, making a coffee is a harder than this, but at least its getting there
campionunbound: https://x.com/deitaone/status/1915947090649239587?s=46&t=AfygPPVmbT-hFJR03pEcVg
brain4brain: (I actually misremembered, it was cleaning in an unseen environment not making a coffee, sorry about that)
https://x.com/physical_int/status/1914724966362440148?t=mfOZX8QjsUfNa0u_1DgJrQ&s=19
brain4brain: It was revealed to me in a dream
ldj: link?
brain4brain: Steve Wozniak’s cup of coffee benchmark was achieved last week, but not in a general system, but wow
.histic: AI is surprisingly good for mental health if you give it a chance.
joaoluz19: Roon entered sam's account
anathemaofmankind: Or being in a good country but killing yourself because of mental health issues
ldj: https://youtu.be/mRD0-GxqHVo?si=CUh1vGu_R7B27YdW
ldj: The lyrics of the song heat waves goes like this:
"All I think about is you, late night in the **middle of Jun**e"
ldj: here:
ldj: If anybody is curious of how I know OpenAI is planning an open source release for June <:berk:750111476483752166>
zoermena: Stuff me
futurist_wizard: Please hivemind save us and stuff
futurist_wizard: Fucked up world we built, humans need to go
alejandrozarzuelo: Think of how unlucky it is to be born in this century but in Gaza and you end up dying at 15 instead of 150000
hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦
sekirow: If you look at the history of AI, its usually not that smooth
futurist_wizard: You know how unlucky that would be, our lifespans were 0.00..1% the potential but we were born just a smidge too early
joaoluz19: The chad futurist hill vs the virgin clock fool
alejandrozarzuelo: OK gonna sleep
alejandrozarzuelo: Extinction by AI, not by cringe things like climate change
futurist_wizard: It'd be over for us at least
alejandrozarzuelo: As long as something happens... I am ok with it
I just dread the idea of humanity existing as it does today in 2100, extinction would at least be interesting
futurist_wizard: 😞 literally over 😿
futurist_wizard: I can't use emojis anymore..
hikukomoru: You fell off hard 🥀
hikukomoru: Emojis
Futurist Hill would never
futurist_wizard: Like what
sekirow: but it doesnt really matter to me since I have a good chance surviving up to 2050
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spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: this means gemini 2.5 pro performs better
zonchao: they did use more compute for arc
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
ldj: I guess when they say SOTA they mean pass@1 probably
zonchao: really? thought epochs new tweet mentioned o4 (17%) being sota
ldj: And still is
ldj: The true default score (even since the original O3 announcement) was about 10% on frontier math though
ldj: When allowed to do extra test time sampling and attempts yea.
zonchao: ig he is confusing it with arc agi
spicy.lemonade: it didnt score 25% on frontier math
ldj: What’s your evidence for the released version not being the same one that scored 25% on frontier math?
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: It’s not all about coding, most geniuses in the world can’t code at all
professorheaven: Every pilot study I’ve seen on UBI shows that it actually lowers crime rate, lowers truancy, improves mental health and increases overall prosperity. Saying “it makes people lazy” is ignoring so many variables that are involved here
.histic: also, if it can do 1%, then it can add 1% of value to the economy, that's like 1 trillion worth.
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funnt-cat-black-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-16409614852005252877
himekokatagiri: it'll be worth it if I survive
zoermena: Time to pray
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: still haven't forgotten the whole 'AGI is here' thing
himekokatagiri: yeah hype is off the charts
.histic: yes, and i think it's overhyped. for some reason it just doesn't code well in my tests.
and based on the benchmarks, the improvement over the previous SOTA, which was 2.5 pro, isn't that different.
the version they released isn't even the one that scored around 25% on frontier math. it's a watered down version.
also, when Deep Research came out, Sam claimed it could handle a single digit percentage of all economically valuable tasks worldwide. that sounds exaggerated to me. i think it's much lower and highly dependent on the field and work you're doing. lots of supervision is needed.
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dance-uporot-brazil-gif-13264739
himekokatagiri: oh no! anyways
himekokatagiri: also I'm at the whims of the brazilian government
himekokatagiri: I work for an app
himekokatagiri: I'm not registered
himekokatagiri: well uh
zonchao: dario is the realest ceo
zonchao: post agi your employer will be legally required to certify you lost your job to agi to receive UBI ✅ this is the worst case scenario where agi doesn't take everything in a couple months but instead is a long process, dario is working against this, sama says he is working toward it(but he is not)
zonchao: didn't another study come out from germany that said it changed nothing
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ubi advocates act like ubi has no downsides, ubi shouldn't be introduced pre-Singularity or it will lower productivity
.wolfnacht: unless u need medical attention urgently
professorheaven: I mean isn’t that the point? The singularity is supposed to make life easier
professorheaven: Yea canada is very socialist
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ubi makes people lazy
professorheaven: Enlighten me
zonchao: i mean it's pretty simple, it cannot complete a single speed run, even though it knows all the strats and tricks... not asking it to be creative and set up a base... just a speedrun
ldj: Have you actually tried O3
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lol
drewsni: this discord made a geoguessr benchmark already
drewsni: https://deepguessr.com/
drewsni: erm
gamerbath: now I need to resist the urge to use o3 for every request of mine, becuase it's expensive
gamerbath: man
gamerbath: tooltip
gamerbath:
gamerbath: we are so back
gamerbath: and the implementation is very simple. it's literally just a tooltip. All the other models didn't understand the context properly and did the css wrong
gamerbath: i'm crying
gamerbath: I tried all the other major models. none did it. o3 did
gamerbath: man I just used o3 for the first time in cursor
apology0759: What is the best video AI now?
3ds0662: on all geobenchs leaderboards gemini is highest elo/average score and shortest median distance
3ds0662:
3ds0662: https://geobench.org/
brain4brain: O1 got higher than o3 and 2.5-pro
brain4brain: Wrong
3ds0662: if its same level or not that much better than o3 might as well release and not tarnish their own name
3ds0662: then add gemini ultra releasing yeahhh
3ds0662: they can’t wait too long gpt-5, and claude 4 are eminent for release
professorheaven: Greatness shall never be rushed
professorheaven: Honestly I’d rather have them release it later than sooner, really allows them to ensure it’s polished
3ds0662: <@688807313015963693> its mayday no R2 release
3ds0662: and gemini has an even higher elo being trained on google maps
drewsni: I’ve gotta link him my site
brain4brain: O3 get the location closer than rainbolt in the end when they play normal geoguesser
brain4brain: <@88481490228228096> Thought you might be interested in this:
https://youtu.be/prtWONaO0tE?si=DlXobi_CJY66Mfbb
brain4brain: Totally real leaked nasa images of the Europa mission
destrucules: Thank fuck, hope that's a policy with all of their models
zonchao: gn
zoermena: Good Night 💤
zonchao: would've been so funny
zonchao: they should've waited until open imo
zonchao: you don't hate the media enough
zonchao: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917815854647107990
gamerbath: good morning
drewsni: i guess if its actually fake news, this is probably the best way to respond right?
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hikukomoru: Gonna reply anyways bish
zonchao: no
fuhulootogan: just wait
fuhulootogan: responding to me
fuhulootogan: i don't want multiple people
fuhulootogan: dude
hikukomoru: Because of post-scarcity breh
fuhulootogan: lmao
archon.e: Esops
ailoveyoom: UBI and shizz
fuhulootogan: if you have no job
fuhulootogan: live
alejandrozarzuelo: ? you havent understood anything? the goal is to replace human labor
fuhulootogan: wait how would you
archon.e: Need to cash out somehow
fuhulootogan: OH
fuhulootogan: and how would you
archon.e: Want to enjoy life now
fuhulootogan: but why would you hope for people to be unemployed
archon.e: I’m also fine not working
fuhulootogan: okay?
alejandrozarzuelo: artists are just the first in the chopping block, mathematicians like me are second, and i am fine with that
fuhulootogan: ?
fuhulootogan: does that mean you hire artists
fuhulootogan: if you're referring to artists
fuhulootogan: i don't really have anything against it but
archon.e: Jobs are basically modern day slavery
fuhulootogan: so
fuhulootogan: wait
alejandrozarzuelo: what part of replacing human labor is mean?
hikukomoru: What do you mean?
alejandrozarzuelo: because I want to replace human labor?
fuhulootogan: that sounds kinda mean
archon.e: For a while
fuhulootogan: but why
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean i cannot see the future, i am just saying that hopefully they get replaced soon
archon.e: Will need to give ubi to all of them
archon.e: So countries with huge population will be at a massive disadvantage
hikukomoru: They wouldn't be spending that much money for a few toys
fuhulootogan: thats your reason for hoping it does?
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zoermena: Haven’t we all?
futurist_wizard: I have thought about doing OF before
hey1_1hey: Totattly not suspicouse and almost defintly not a drug dealer, kingpin, etc etc
futurist_wizard:
zonchao: he does OF
futurist_wizard: I am anonymous
hey1_1hey: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
futurist_wizard: I will not disclose
hey1_1hey: What work do you do?
futurist_wizard: The work i do requires many hours
hey1_1hey: I know that once I get going you wont be able to pry me away from my computer with an iron bar but its the getting started part
hey1_1hey: I just straight up dont have the disipline to sit down and do work. I'll either sit down last miniute for 6 hours and do it or not do it at all
futurist_wizard: Technically i could do it wherever
hey1_1hey: I mean in fairness "work from home" extends to me being forced to do school work at home during covid
futurist_wizard: Because of this making friends is a challenging process that i actually have to go out of my way to achieve
hey1_1hey: I could never, I hate working from home
futurist_wizard: I work from home
hey1_1hey: I used to have unbeleacible social anxiety from like 13-17 ish and I straight up couldnt even talk to people at the till because I would blush and get embarrsed for no reason. Then I just kinda stopped caring and that worked out well
zonchao: this is dumb and way too much work, just have a couple extroverted friends you will know dozens of people instantly
fractalcomputer: Democracy is indeed a disease that will kill human societies if push comes to shove with climate change.
hikukomoru: Nvm, Conversation has shifted to a different topic
Don’t worry your little head about a thing
futurist_wizard: When i was *just a little boy*
alejandrozarzuelo: This tracks with experience
futurist_wizard: I used to play the drums
hey1_1hey: I just talk to random people I find on walks when looking for mushrooms lmao
.wolfnacht: indeed
alejandrozarzuelo: There are many options
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk
alejandrozarzuelo: A band
futurist_wizard: My local choir.. to do a sing song..
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dying-dies-dies-from-cringe-dying-from-cringe-dies-to-cringe-gif-7438506245051526559
fractalcomputer: Climate change organisations are entirely useless.
.wolfnacht: yep, having a friend group and just having good laughs with them can fix any depressed guy.
alejandrozarzuelo: Orgs = organisations
alejandrozarzuelo: Lol
alejandrozarzuelo: Loo
hey1_1hey: Dont get me started on high school. There are a few arch types I've noticed. A few of the notable bullies just become homeless right off the bat, some went onto further education else where and others litterly vanished off the face of the earth
futurist_wizard: The orgy's you attend?
alejandrozarzuelo: <@1004153620025065482> join your local choir, climate change organization, maybe an NGO...
zonchao: taliban
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ldj: idk, arc-agi v2 seems kinda unfair considering that average human score is only 60%
but in order to win the prize, an AI has to score 85% in the benchmark.
It's almost like they don't even consider average humans to be AGI <:berk:750111476483752166>
zonchao: but not scarjo
metaldragon01: I mean most refusals are just bad prompts
zonchao: maybe the elmo lawsuit
zonchao: i doubt it slows things down
spicy.lemonade: Lolll
.wolfnacht: waiting for claude to release new opussy for even better creative writting
sarik0497: I mean, I kind of get them.
Imagine all the time and money they'd have to spent if they get sued. Much better to just pull it out for now and then focus on the AI itself.
I mean, imagine the work at OpenAI slowing down because of a court case with Disney or ScarJo <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
zonchao: i also think they are a/b rolling out this new policy so the people that do get refusals feel retarded
spicy.lemonade: I hope his pillows stay warm
zonchao: sama fooled us all 😭
sarik0497: Tbh, I doubt even Grok would let TM stuff go through. I doubt Elon want to be sued either.
HOWEVER, this might lead to better OS versions that do allow it.
zonchao: openai pussy fr
spicy.lemonade: Scum
spicy.lemonade: So they made it a free for all in release day then neutered the next
zonchao: I do not get it, fuck scarjo, fight her in court give me sky 😭
spicy.lemonade: Sighhhhh
zonchao: yea we need to wait
sarik0497: It's likely to protect themselves from being sued. Imagine Nintendo or Disney seeing their stuff being made like that. <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
spicy.lemonade: Oh
spicy.lemonade: And uncensored
zonchao: it won't refuse but it is also not as good as 4o
spicy.lemonade: Performance
spicy.lemonade: I just need equal perform
zonchao: grok probably not... unless they cook something crazy, doubt it'll get better for this version
spicy.lemonade: Tired of ts
spicy.lemonade: Hopefully Elon makes grok mog
spicy.lemonade: Fuck OpenAI
zonchao: true
spicy.lemonade:
sarik0497: Definitely. This isn't a fast rate of "AI will get X smarter every year", but rather unpredictable large leaps coming now and then
spicy.lemonade: Yes
zonchao: it seems oai updated their content policy for 4o imagen... seeing more refusals on the tl... sus
spicy.lemonade: Kinda
spicy.lemonade: The 5% thing is actually a worst case scenario
spicy.lemonade: Claude 4
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5
spicy.lemonade: Well likeley we large jumps with the next era of models approaching lol
sarik0497: I know, which is why I made sure to rephrase myself at the end. I doubt it'll stay like this for long myself.
spicy.lemonade: Not percent growth
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hikukomoru: yet
zonchao: yet
hikukomoru: Just the pleasure 😈
futurist_wizard: Gay sex doesn't exactly involve reproduction
okbut: <#1136263237533442108>
https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108
fractalcomputer: I would object to that notion since natural selection is not really teleological.
fractalcomputer: I just don't understand such human affairs in general.
popsiclejohnithan: Its purpose is pleasure, and reproduction.
futurist_wizard: I don't think at least
hikukomoru: That's just porn brain then
For me it's not just about pleasure but also about the emotional connection
futurist_wizard: I don't have any weird fantasies
popsiclejohnithan: Just the internet in general.
fractalcomputer: The whole idea of sex seems rather mechanistic and purposeless.
_3sphere: Some of them predate porn use
futurist_wizard: Porn happened
_3sphere: I don't know what happened exactly to result in my set of weird fantasies
fractalcomputer: I don't think I am. I just can't really sympathise with other people.
ailoveyoom: I accidentally watched 50 Shades when I was too young and the 'aesthetic' of dom/sub was drilled into my impressionable brain 😔
popsiclejohnithan: How can you be an Anglophobe and like Lovecraft? The biggest Anglophile ever.
hikukomoru: Do things have to produce value to matter
alejandrozarzuelo: You sound asexual but ok
fractalcomputer: Do you seek to worsen my anglophobia?
zoermena: And I agree
hikukomoru: Ummm I think your experiences and mine are very different
I guess you just want to get dominated and chained up or smth
futurist_wizard: Definitely not mine, i would never again bring someone over to my house
zonchao: speak for yourself 😤
ailoveyoom: Sure, your place or mine?
_3sphere: It makes the opioids and dopamine ooze
futurist_wizard: Rough out here for inceldom
fractalcomputer: It literally produces nothing of value.
alejandrozarzuelo: Never done both implies that you have either done
Neither murder or sex
Murder but not sex
Sex but no murder
And one of these 3 is a bit...
zonchao: sounds awesome
fractalcomputer: Again, it is just a generally grotesque and meaningless affair.
popsiclejohnithan: Impossible.
futurist_wizard: Or at least try
fractalcomputer: I don't really understand either why so many other homosexuals are so passionate to enter coitus with other gay men.
futurist_wizard: Go have sex irl
zonchao: you can murder and have sex <:ASbigBrain:582388547789783040>
_3sphere: smh what
_3sphere: In FDVR not anymore :trollface:
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spicy.lemonade: why lol
callmepyro: If o4 can just one-shot it for a few bucks per task, ARC-AGI-1 is dead
callmepyro: o3 low required 33M tokens and 6 samples per problem, costing $200
callmepyro:
callmepyro: I think I would consider ARC-AGI-1 killed when you can do it with a model that can answer those questions with the same ease that it answers GPQA questions.
spicy.lemonade: ngl 70% on arc2 is probably enough for agi
spicy.lemonade: by that logic you can keep making harder benchmarks and claim you werent killed
spicy.lemonade: arc1 was
spicy.lemonade: get ~60
spicy.lemonade: that did public set
callmepyro: Nice
spicy.lemonade: asctual humans
spicy.lemonade: they get~ 76%
spicy.lemonade: "Every ARC-AGI task has been human-verified by at least 2 STEM professionals. Not all humans can solve all tasks, but all tasks can be solved by humans."
callmepyro: That screenshot is referencing ARC-AGI-1
thedon7075: arc hasnt been killed. o3 only scored 4% on arc-2
callmepyro: The screenshot linked above shows human benchmark at 80%
spicy.lemonade: which is still above human
spicy.lemonade: low power
spicy.lemonade: o3 still got like 70%
callmepyro: Calling ARC-AGI-1 killed by o3 I feel is a little generous. It cost them nearly 1 million USD to achieve that score. You could get that score on most any benchmark with that much compute
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
ldj: but it's in a weird in-between
because it may not explicitly have a reasoning section, but it doesn't necessarily need to, as the main component here is the provenance of the data. and for Deepseek V3 chat, they've admitted it's trained on R1 outputs
ldj: hmm, I would consider this more comparable with reasoning models
callmepyro: Yeah it was Elliot. In this discussion if I recall https://epoch.ai/frontiermath/tier-4. Can't find the exact timestamp yet
spicy.lemonade: idk the names
spicy.lemonade: we create benchmarks knowing they were going to get saturated soon
callmepyro: Ah, yes, was that Elliot? I'm trying to remember from the video
spicy.lemonade: because its not in view
spicy.lemonade: like the frontier math benchmark wouldnt be created in 2015
spicy.lemonade: we only create benchmarks that we know are in view
spicy.lemonade: the theory is
callmepyro: Is it? I don't think turing actually laid out a set of questions
spicy.lemonade: just a thing a person from the frontier math said
spicy.lemonade: like calling the turing test a benchmark
callmepyro: I haven't heard of it
callmepyro: Ah, law of benchmarks is a more recent thing
spicy.lemonade: we werent in llm age
callmepyro: Not a benchmark? Or got saturated in 2021?
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spicy.lemonade: lol
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/bcDFl.gif
.histic: i wish they just exploded all over us.
i don't let them spreading it out.
spicy.lemonade: new arch?
zoermena: Nahhhh
spicy.lemonade: sora 2?
zoermena: Yes because if they don’t Google gets complacent and they stop shipping
spicy.lemonade: so what more is comming?
spicy.lemonade: they are dropping thw whole week
darkstar0818: I do hope oai cooks tomorrow. Gotta keep the fear of god in google.
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/tpsLRsz0MSm.gif
zoermena: If they include veo 2 in their Gemini advanced plan I might transition
darkstar0818: and it is fast
darkstar0818: yes
zoermena: Google right?
okbut: Getting any Gemini model to properly show math in Latex is a disaster
darkstar0818: well lets see it accesed 350 websites on my last request
.histic: OpenAI for depth & Google for breadth.
Google gives you more uses too, so i'd say Google wins anyway.
st.sioux: there was a bug when 2.5 pro first released where it couldn't write brackets [] so all code was broken lmao
zoermena: A question to those who’ve used deep research from both google and OAI, which ones do y’all think is best?
darkstar0818: this isnt intended lol
darkstar0818: when it hits about 5000 lines it logs you out
darkstar0818: there is a ui bug
.histic: 2.5 pro on gemini.google.com output length is more limited i think
darkstar0818: unlimited deep research queries 🙂
okbut: I have Gemini sub and I STILL use Studio more
darkstar0818: most people dont sit on a singularity discord or a computer all day
darkstar0818: I don't think you and I are a good example of what 'most people' do.
metaldragon01: It's definitely not unlimited
.histic: 2.5 feels unlimited on aistudio
i don't think the subscripton is worth it imo
but i heard t's $9.99 for 2 months, pretty cheap.
zoermena: What do you expect to change then that we don’t have now?
darkstar0818: or ya desktop apps.
metaldragon01: Chatbot era going to be around a while
okbut: Desktop apps > web apps
metaldragon01: People still use web forums
darkstar0818: phones.
zoermena: What why 👀 on the last part
zoermena: I was talking to people with Gemini advanced main advantage being that there are unlimited messages for 2.5 and 20 quieres for deep research daily
darkstar0818: my position on this will likely change within 30-60 days. But for right now OAI is fine for most people. I don't think most people will be using web based chat bots at all in 6 months.
okbut: I'm still upset Gemini cannot embed plots AFAIK
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bedros_p: Das all the "politics" I'm gonna yap about 4 today... Or for this year
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
bedros_p: Kinda funny this guy has bigger plans for Gaza than USA while simultaneously doing everything he can to ruin both lol
maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216>
zonchao: 👍
artemisfowl887394: I don't think its dumb. I just think it's myopic
maintcrew: nyt smearing campaign confirmed fake news
bedros_p: no do not fire this I am very much against this <@750270494615404544>
zonchao: fake news.
zonchao: you will never understand it, you will always think its dumb regardless of what or why he did something 👍
maintcrew: its a 2 way pincher by no incentive (no chips act) and punishment (tariffs)
maintcrew: the chips act was scrapped to force taiwan to invest on shore of the united states like it happened in arizona
artemisfowl887394: What is this new news about preparation for war against China again?
maintcrew: well tbh this how europe was, were it for 2 world wars back 2 back
bedros_p: TRUMP GAZA, NUMBER ONE
artemisfowl887394: I mean what's the final goal here? Create a theocratic Christian nation in twenty first century?
zonchao: <:sigh:1126597462115758110>
artemisfowl887394: They are so dumb they have to be smart
artemisfowl887394: Dude that's the funny part
bedros_p: Ulterior motives would mean they're smart
bedros_p: I don't want to spew out "ulterior motives" BS because they don't need to have ulterior motives
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1902574142060216371
artemisfowl887394: Your commander in chief probably failed every subject he ever studied. Maybe it's a grudge against the DoE. Or perhaps they just want dumber Americans to fuel their slave factories.
bedros_p: I doubt they're doing mass lobotomies but saying it's beyond repair is insanity
hey1_1hey: "Artits are special little creatures, protect them at all costs. But those weird nerdy computer greeks? Nah they can lose their jobs"
sarik0497: To be fair, we are talking about the guy that dismantled the Chips Act despite being a major win for the U.S. because “Fuck Biden”
zonchao: its too early to debate politics, I will leave with this "try again in 2-4 years" 👍
zonchao: they are not doing that
zonchao: its beyond repair, according to trump admin
bedros_p: The people aren't learning well enough let's entirely remove standards and lobotomize the people
hey1_1hey: Didn't gotta get rid of the entire thing tho? Just gotta change it. It seems like a little tantram to me
bedros_p: Wouldn't a reform be better than disbanding it
sarik0497: Best one is the guy asking why it’s fine if AI is only used for stuff like programming and such, but not for the “creative” stuff.
“I don’t care if the programmer loses their job, but I’ll have to put my foot down if it hurts the artists!”
zonchao: the current system is not working
bedros_p: If the people are stupid it's easier to get away with stupid things
hey1_1hey: Yeah, still don't know the reaonsing behind it tho <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
artemisfowl887394: Didn't US just disband its Department of Education?
zonchao: true, hope we dont make the same mistakes and stagnate
hey1_1hey: This is incredibly based
wellmeaningalien: this is how europe was talking about itself in the 1900s
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wellmeaningalien: 400b total parameters
spicy.lemonade: oh yeah thats bahemoth
wellmeaningalien: their biggest model's like 400 or something lemme check
wellmeaningalien: ok 2 trillion is not out
wellmeaningalien: 😂
spicy.lemonade: not good
wellmeaningalien: like a good dozen times
spicy.lemonade: 2 trillion
wellmeaningalien: yeah the fact it fails that test means it's retarded if you try to talk it over stuff that's too complex and just retarded in general
spicy.lemonade: and their model is quite large
spicy.lemonade: damn
spicy.lemonade: I think if it fails at fictionbench then itl do bad at datanalysis portion of livebench
wellmeaningalien: also btw the context length of llama 4 is wors than llama 3.3
wellmeaningalien: apparently its a tarded model
wellmeaningalien: ngl if livebench numbers are good then maybe i'll forgive but it's not looking good cause a lot of people are saying firsthand the models are pretty shit
wellmeaningalien: cant wait for livebench lol
spicy.lemonade: meta had worse drop than 4.5
wellmeaningalien: and it fails haaaaaaaard
wellmeaningalien: the real benchmark is with fiction bench
spicy.lemonade: fr
wellmeaningalien: pussy shit again
spicy.lemonade: lol
wellmeaningalien: like that's the most "we're pussies and we're too afraid to compare our model" shit
spicy.lemonade: could be 10% for blue
spicy.lemonade: they dont even tell us how accurate it is at retrieving
wellmeaningalien: like conveniently leaving out the benchmarks over them not being tested for and deepseek v3 not being multimodal
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: its blue and not blue
wellmeaningalien: its hyperbole ok dont fret over the details
spicy.lemonade: the benchmark is misleading
spicy.lemonade: no its not
wellmeaningalien: ngl idk how ldj can defend this model like meta totally nitpicked the fuck out of those benchmarks to show 😭
spicy.lemonade: wait
wellmeaningalien: lol idiot
spicy.lemonade: oh i thought that said 2.5
spicy.lemonade: its not
wellmeaningalien: 😅
wellmeaningalien: early gemini 1.5 pro
wellmeaningalien: its just as good as gemini 1.5 pro 1 million context length
wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/kalomaze/status/1908914448741421394
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hikukomoru: Why
are you gay like Alejandro too
drewsni: ill put this on my site "worldsgayestman.com"
trent_k: No
trent_k: Neither Amodei or Altman would ever give up their chance to be the winner
hikukomoru: You don't like it?
metaldragon01: I don't see them staying ahead of both google and deepseek
zonchao: jd
literallyvarane: National security, or one fails and gets acquired
trent_k: Wtf is ur new profile pic??? 😡
metaldragon01: So they can focus on safety and not racing
spicy.lemonade: This is a fake scenario
hikukomoru: Alenjandro vibes
trent_k: The whole point of Anthropic was they split off from openai. Why would they ever merge
literallyvarane: OpenAlphaThropic
spicy.lemonade: Considering anthropic is mostly openAI descents
drewsni: wtf that looks like me??????????????
literallyvarane: AlphathropicAI
spicy.lemonade: openAI and anthropoc merge probably wouldn't cause that much of a slowdown tho
trent_k: 🤯
ailoveyoom: OpenGoThroatingAI
hikukomoru: Don't merge pls
Competition good actually
zonchao: https://x.com/kalinowski007/status/1904246466291601672?
literallyvarane: We we merging the labs? OpenGoThropicAI
spicy.lemonade: Bc one never drops
spicy.lemonade: Google and openAI merge would cause slowdown
hikukomoru: Wym
literallyvarane: Merge the labs when
spicy.lemonade: We just moved forward
spicy.lemonade: Not bad
spicy.lemonade: That's like calling the Og transistor bad
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
spicy.lemonade: I mean yeah that's a good way to look at it. Bad would be if a gpt 3.5 level
Model dropped today
trent_k: No, because image gen is at least fast and cheap enough people can use it to jerk off to.
Jokes aside, image gen being faster and cheaper makes it useful for a lot of real world work like logo design. Sora just doesn't have that benefit
drewsni: actually really good lol
st.sioux:
zonchao: they are now ostracized and jobless
trent_k: Ur forgetting the videographers openai paid to make bad music videos
drewsni: wait i didnt know roblox fucking cooked
st.sioux: isn't that true for image gen too?
literallyvarane: Ngl for me at this point I’m seeing 4o updates in general as stagnation. How long until 4o is properly sunset? If it’s sunset with 5, then clearly 5 isn’t that close?
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spicy.lemonade: 3 is probably gpt5
spicy.lemonade: technically
spicy.lemonade: was 2
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4
spicy.lemonade: gpt 3 was 1
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gpt6 will be innovator
spicy.lemonade: imagine all the stuff that well get after gpt5 drops
spicy.lemonade: crazy
spicy.lemonade: We are still in the gpt 4 era
a1c4p0ne:
i_like_over_9000_turtles: I do the cumin club via mail and get Naan from aldi
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Can't believe it's not more popular here in the USA
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Love me some indian food
spicy.lemonade: not my image
spicy.lemonade: yes
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Desu ka?
ailoveyoom: I can finally finish all those abandoned early access games with AI 🥺
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Butter chicken, garlic Naan, and a mango lasi?
_cloudost: Indie video game developers are going to be screwed too in the near future, they wont just have to compete with other developers but also PEOPLE who use AI
spicy.lemonade: you can prob get 4o to generate block texture
spicy.lemonade: someone got 2.5 to oneshot minecraft
spicy.lemonade: hope 2.5 didnt delay r2
ailoveyoom: Honestly the only chinese models I've tried are R1 and V3 💀
spicy.lemonade: r2 better be an insane jump
spicy.lemonade: i think thats qwen
ailoveyoom: 2.5 SOTA creative writing 🥺
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: Gemini 2.5 ate it too, today I asked it a very personal question that ive been asking all other models for weeks already but got confusing answers most of the time, Gemini 2.5howveer gave me a far FAR better and reasonable answer than all other models ive been using
spicy.lemonade: anime food always looks so good
_cloudost: turn yourself into a Touhou youkai woman
spicy.lemonade: before eating
spicy.lemonade: now i can look at my food as anime food
_cloudost: the anti-AI propaganda screwed their critical thinking skills
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: into anime food
spicy.lemonade: we can turn our food
spicy.lemonade: i realized
spicy.lemonade: oh shit
spicy.lemonade: if it can one shot complex games
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hey1_1hey: Let me guess its called like tikfuck or smth
ailoveyoom: Dystopian ahh moment
hey1_1hey: People in my class can't work on 1 task at once so they watch youtube shorts while working 😭
ailoveyoom: Oh boy do I have a website for you (it combines both)
hey1_1hey: I saw the most embaressing thing the other day
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/not-a-real-gooner-gooning-gooner-spiderman-sad-spiderman-walking-gif-10603606494430604821
hey1_1hey: Could be worse, could be a shortform content addict
futurist_wizard: Gooners mind rot
joaoluz19: Thresh, he is goat
sarik0497: ^ She's in the game <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
hey1_1hey: Michmach is a professinal gooner. You'd think the artists are paying HIM for commisons for feedback
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/lyse-hext-yda-hext-final-fantasy-final-fantasy-xiv-final-fantasy14-gif-15435646
sarik0497: I think I know how to bait the man
ailoveyoom: No <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
st.sioux: michmach has porn taken over your life
sarik0497: Same.
But again, give FF14 a shot if you have the time. No FOMO, very singleplayer focused, and generally just a cozy ol' time.
hey1_1hey: I played all the supports I am pretty sure, I remember liking morgarna, sona and the skull mf who hooked people
ailoveyoom: For the porn
ailoveyoom: I only check out those games to get context on which character is which
ailoveyoom: I don't really play the competitive/seasonal based games, I prefer singleplayer RPGs and the like
hey1_1hey: True that
hey1_1hey: All the tanks shout "MEDIC!" at me and I come running over to give them my little healy weelies
joaoluz19: Would: Lux, janna, morgana, sona
hey1_1hey: Yes 👉 👈
hikukomoru: Fuck you I was about to say that
sarik0497: Let that comment reach the starboard!
hikukomoru: You give me healslut vibes
sarik0497: PLEASE give him moar stars
ailoveyoom: Are you a healslut 😍
sarik0497: <.< I guess that's up to you
ailoveyoom: Same for both tho
ailoveyoom: Wait, the game or the porn?
ailoveyoom: Haven't gotten into that yet
hey1_1hey: I main support in all my games
hey1_1hey: If they had leauge level waifus there would be a 10% increase in the player base and more importantly a 50% increase in the R34 tags for dota_2
sarik0497: I also assume you are a big fan of Marvel Rivals for...reasons, <@430269783112548362>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-roadhog-picmix-gif-846681494784102760
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/juno-picmix-ow-ow2-overwatch-gif-6971239943433647561
joaoluz19: This is my main in lol btw
sarik0497: Foolish men shall always pay for their greed of knowledge.
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spicy.lemonade: Floors
spicy.lemonade: I described how many rooms
spicy.lemonade: To a tee
spicy.lemonade: Btw
spicy.lemonade: Exactly
wellmeaningalien: TAKE ALL THE JOBS!!! NOW!!!
spicy.lemonade: It follows my description
wellmeaningalien: another profession TAKEN 🗣️ ❤️🔥
archon.e: All jobs going for the toss
wellmeaningalien: never knew gpt 4o was gonna be such a blast
archon.e: Damn. Architects ded
wellmeaningalien: it never gets old tho god fucking damn
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: alright im kinda tired rn and i think im going to stop spamming gpt 4o images in the chat
wellmeaningalien: thanks danny poo
wellmeaningalien: ig skill issue
wellmeaningalien: same resolution as dall-e 3 btw
wellmeaningalien: monster poop flavor
maintcrew: give me your credit card number and the 3 digits on the back (so i can track your account back to you and do the change) and i will talk to sam altman to increase the resolution just for you
archon.e: Oh only that much? These seem more detailed though
wellmeaningalien: 1024 for 1:1
st.sioux: it varies
archon.e: I’m totally digging it. What’s the resolution of these images?
wellmeaningalien: it is very accurate
archon.e: The texture in these generated images man!
.histic: the pen is in a weird positions tho 💀
maintcrew: no
ailoveyoom: Taking one for the team 😤
ailoveyoom: Would OAI have released this if Gemmy didn't do it first 🥺
.histic: pfp material
.histic: fuck that's good
zonchao: 😭😭😭😭
gamerbath: that's fully accurate
maintcrew: ngmi
maintcrew: u dont know light?
maintcrew: nice
st.sioux: idk who this is or if its accurate honestly
maintcrew: he really thought he did something 💀
.histic: a new era
archon.e: I can’t wait to use 4o to make architecture diagrams of my code
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fractalcomputer: In fact, from what I've discerned, most students of any kind in academia are profoundly stunted and always limited by whatever is being taught to them at a time, piecemeal; they only ever deal with particular theories, going from one small bit of the world to the next, like pigs fattened for slaughter, only to never achieve or create anything of note.
alejandrozarzuelo: but i get the point
alejandrozarzuelo: (you cant solve math tho)
frittata: I think some does, especially when it’s reflecting its own “experience” and not just regurgitating the lived experiences of others. Model simp’s poems about the process of RHLF from AI pov are a prime example
ailoveyoom: cruck 😈
alejandrozarzuelo: yes, very well said
ailoveyoom: Semi related, I feel like advice like 'avoid scope creep' is more a compromise than something to live by. Today, we still have to balance making money, can't hole up doing whatever we want forever. With UBI, maybe everyone can finally indulge in scope creep 🥺
shirethedreamer: i think thats the crux of it
if ai threatens denying people from getting what they want from working the field it will be perceived negatively
if people completely altruistically joing the field to "solve" it
then yeah they should be happy if more is done even without their input
but if they want to get money out of it, status, glory, sense of accomplishment... having a new unbeatable competitor drop on their head is bad
frittata: Great example of people who draw on command but it’s almost always a work of such incredible beauty … does that work reflect their own self and personality? Only they could say, but I’d argue not just the best tattoo artists but even the median end up putting a good bit of themselves in their work
spicy.lemonade: yes
anathemaofmankind: Won't we get AGI by then?
alejandrozarzuelo: but does AI art have a soul? you cant prove that humans have one, and I am of the opinion that AI does learn on a fundamental level
spicy.lemonade: AI video is where dalle 2-3 was
spicy.lemonade: 2 years
frittata: That said look at tattoo artists
spicy.lemonade: wait
anathemaofmankind: Would they have enouhg GPUs for that
frittata: Some is some isn’t. I’d argue that a greater proportion than you imply has at least some soul … it’s hard to create art worth buying on pure technical know-how alone. But sure some commission art is more like bricklaying than designing a house I’m sure
spicy.lemonade: next year
anathemaofmankind: I wonder when this will be
alejandrozarzuelo: it depends
the ones with fields medals aspirations and fat salaries? no
fractalcomputer: Most students are obliviously retarded.
spicy.lemonade: I think when openAI drops native video the new ghibli style will be christopher nolan style
shirethedreamer: are the students happy?
alejandrozarzuelo: ah yeah i have nothing against artists in particular, they are the first in the "chopping block"
mathematicians are second, and most of my professors are happy with this prospect, imagine how many centuries worth of math we could have per year
both mathematicians and artists are creative people, its weird to see the prospect of automation be felt so differently
fractalcomputer: I suppose alcohol counts as a drug.
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/periodicazo-fifidonia-newspaper-gif-20050186
frittata: In fact UBI etc would support a mass flourishing of art I’m convinced. Of all varieties, AI and digital and manual alike
anathemaofmankind: Have you tried drugs
frittata: Nope as long as you go at it like that, and not in a vindictive nah nah boo boo spirit
fractalcomputer: I am not an excitable person—so quite naturally heated argumentation is the only thing that brings me any sort of joy in life.
alejandrozarzuelo: question: is supporting the mass unemployment of artists being a villain when you also support the mass unemployment of everyone else?
frittata: Right exactly! There’s nothing wrong with not putting soul into things, most things just require rigor and exactness to be good and fulfill their purpose
frittata: The man knows himself
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-emperor-look-stare-gif-15923185
frittata: Claude has got *soul* fr fr <:doot:803769141106049084>
alejandrozarzuelo: that is ok
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sith-gif-7488176
alejandrozarzuelo: it is true, i misspoke, the basis is a bayesian model (and that is assuming minimal quantum interference)
i shared an article that is similar to the one i read a few months back
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zoermena: I heard cursor worked well with those types of projects
st.sioux: missing lots of context
st.sioux: and they're usually really big projects too so i guess thats a limitation as well
st.sioux: im gonna keep it real, 3.7 and o3-mini get stuff wrong like 90% of the time when i ask them to do shit to my code
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: more miss than hit
spicy.lemonade: get downvoted for asking a question
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: just code
spicy.lemonade: sometimes theres no documentation
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: sometimes i ask ai to translate the docs in simpler wording
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812
zonchao: like imagine Miyazaki comes out as pro ai
spicy.lemonade: these docs suck
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: dont think ive written a single file of code all on my own in a year😭
zonchao: art communities are big on cancel culture so adoption of ai has to be top down
brain4brain: The code subs think compute and capability will be limited and pleatue, the artist think it will magically be stuck in place without evening thinking about the future
st.sioux: if by everyone you mean youtubers like fireship
st.sioux: i think this is mostly due to their audience being people early in their career or students
spicy.lemonade: same
spicy.lemonade: speaks highly
spicy.lemonade: in streams
spicy.lemonade: he mentions his use of claude
spicy.lemonade: still
metaldragon01: Inevitable
fractalcomputer: Vibe coding? Really?
spicy.lemonade: and fireship
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: he was paid to do that
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: even prime
spicy.lemonade: now everyone is talking about vibecoding
spicy.lemonade: during o1 they were like "so many errors, so bad"
zonchao: i think for a lot of comms ai just replaces the artist
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: I think coders stopped coping after o3
metaldragon01: Ai just changes the price
metaldragon01: Art can still be made by humans
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hikukomoru: Femboys are gay btw
futurist_wizard: I wasn't even finished
futurist_wizard: Actually started it again
hikukomoru: Check <#1136231504440201216>
zoermena: I should jump to the chat NOW
futurist_wizard: Jesus don't start this again
drewsni: Does anyone that does reddit wanna do me a favor
hey1_1hey: Why not do both?
zoermena: Wait what?
himekokatagiri: wait after
mantegh5061: or wait for robussy
mantegh5061: Should i date a femboy before singularity
hikukomoru: I forgot why we started talking about trans penises in off topic
himekokatagiri: waaaah
himekokatagiri: life sucks
himekokatagiri: I want the singularity already
himekokatagiri: grrrr I'm pissed off
hey1_1hey: Where brain cells go to die
hey1_1hey: Thats litterly the worst of the worst
futurist_wizard: No
ailoveyoom: Just look at <#1136231504440201216>
mantegh5061: warhammer books
hikukomoru: I don't understand what half of those words mean
hey1_1hey: We are all brain dead here
mantegh5061: that would be true if i left
st.sioux: bringing up rogue ai fanfic in arguments
st.sioux: its lower
destrucules: Okay, well all of those papers demonstrate coherent strategic agency and planning in LLMs in naturalistic settings without special scaffolds or training
mantegh5061: is the average IQ in this server higher than r/singularity
mantegh5061: AGI wen
hikukomoru: I don't read anything bro
You're expecting way too much from me
destrucules: Did you read the Sleeper Agents paper, or the Anticipatory Recovery paper, or the Alignment Faking paper, or the In Context Scheming paper, or the Self Replication Red Line paper, or the Strategic Deception paper, or the Shutdown Avoidance paper?
st.sioux: thats like calling a calculator an agent because it can add two numbers
hikukomoru: How are they agents
destrucules: The models themselves are actual agents though, even if their deployment framework limits how much they can display it
destrucules: The models are not deployed in a way that is conducive to economically useful long horizon agentic tasks
destrucules: We don't have actual agent *scaffolds* yet
hikukomoru: We don't have actual agents yet
destrucules: Agency as a property of cognition shows up very early on in scaling
destrucules: All LLMs above GPT-2 scale are autonomous agents. When we say "agents" these days, we're talking about the scaffolding, not the model
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.histic: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models
.histic: both are 100k
.histic: found it, it's 100,000 max output tokens
.histic: like token output limit? no clue. 🤔
metaldragon01: What are the output limits?
.histic: o4-mini-high seems to be on par with performance with o1-pro.
also, its writing feels more better than o3-mini.
.histic: 🔥
ldj: I told yall it'll be around O1 pricing, not significantly more expensive like many thought
sieventer: OpenAI bankruptcy in the next few years
.histic: still think Google's pricing is far more competitive than OpenAI.
don't know how long-term it will look for OpenAI..
sieventer: That's why you should vote libertarians
.histic: you've to give props to OpenAI for the pricing.
full o3 is cheaper than o1 pricing & o4-mini is the same pricing as o3-mini.
sieventer: The people on the power is motivated by IP
sieventer: It won't happen, he benefits from it
spicy.lemonade: got it wrong
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: lets see
spicy.lemonade:
anathemaofmankind: Since Elon is the shadow president I hope he destroys IP Law
sieventer: Deep research from Gemini advanced is probably the SOTA in deep researching, and with the higher limits at the same time
anathemaofmankind: Imagine going to jail over copy pasting some text
st.sioux: was uncomfortable all around lol
st.sioux: dont know felt too uncomfortable asking
anathemaofmankind: How many years did he get
st.sioux: they said if he hadnt done that he would have walked off
st.sioux: a guy at the company i work with went to jail because he used propietary code in his personal projects and the only reason he did is because he literally copied and pasted it
st.sioux: there is already a very complicated precedent with proving code is stolen, since minor modifications can obscure the original source
anathemaofmankind: I'm not a lawyer so II'll just deep search this
oscurrito: cant wait for full o4
.histic: if you input an image, it looks like this
fractalcomputer: Again, legal topics should generally not be approached through the lens of what you think is right or should be the case. Jurisprudential pragmatism and *money* tend to decide the outcome.
spicy.lemonade: no
.histic: <@471334973379706900> did you see the new reasoning UI?
_cloudost:
.histic: it was something i deleted
spicy.lemonade: what
fractalcomputer: That's not the topic of the discussion at hand.
.histic: <@471334973379706900> wait im mistaken <:LOL:1187460826572005436> read it wrong
anathemaofmankind: Also making a minecraft clone doesn't break any copyright laws to begin with. As long as you're not ripping off code or textures from the game. Or calling it "Minecraft".
There are hundreds of minecraft clones in the play store
fractalcomputer: Convince the wronged parties.
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hey1_1hey: Watch it be something stupid like $1.3 million <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
.histic: why didn't they measure o1-pro and full o3?
is it too expensive even for OpenAI? 💀
hey1_1hey: This week keeps getting better and better
joaoluz19: Guys I was replaced without even starting?
joaoluz19: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1907481490457506235
xauxusd: Gemini 2.5 over hyped, i still prefer chatgpt
maintcrew: ur no economist either buddy
maintcrew: --
metaldragon01: I'll let you learn
maintcrew: just saying what it is
metaldragon01: You're in the group that think it makes sense
maintcrew: again its supposed to be reciprocal
im no economist so im not saying if its good or bad
maintcrew: its also the case that most other countries couldnt afford to put tariffs on US either in that period
metaldragon01: Idiots gonna learn 😂
metaldragon01: The tarrif from the great depression weren't nearly as bad
maintcrew: with a country applying crazy tariffs and u dont do anything
maintcrew: theres certainly an argument to make about not getting fucked over
metaldragon01: You gotta have sub 100 iq to think they make any kind of sense
maintcrew: so if country X has N% tariffs the US applies also N% back, or so ive read
nobranes: I want to drunk drive a mech so bad how close are we to this technology
maintcrew: from apr 1
metaldragon01: Because fking stupid
maintcrew: blanket reciprocal for every country
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: no i mean why the tariffs
metaldragon01: Because chips just got way more expensive and China can make their own
st.sioux: why
st.sioux: nah
metaldragon01: Time to learn Chinese bros
metaldragon01: Rip
metaldragon01: https://x.com/basedjensen/status/1907534117731770371
futurist_wizard: Cricket
wellmeaningalien: Gemini is good at both those. Cue to step their image gen game up
.histic: Sam trying hard to attract indian consumers
https://x.com/sama/status/1907531078581272931
wellmeaningalien: And image recognition
wellmeaningalien: Sadly ChatGPT sucks balls for coding
wellmeaningalien: Definitely
xauxusd: when models can use the difussion as like an idea where it can almost think of the prompt, and not just generate it but also turn it to code 1:1 and keep it persistent with minor tweaks it would be a new mile stone
xauxusd: yea, i wanted it to convert the first image to a website but it cant get it 1:1 especially with the image it generated
wellmeaningalien: yk chatgpt can generate website ideas AND websites. would be cool with agent shi
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hey1_1hey: Speak for yourself
fractalcomputer: Usually penises do not resemble wilted roses.
zoermena: I’m not I tried but I failed
maintcrew: ur wealth is directly proportional to how many tokens you generate
fractalcomputer: Why are you talking with a machine?
.histic: troll it
st.sioux: fractaklcomputer does not know what erectile dysfunction is
drewsni: Wait has it actually
maintcrew: gemini has rate limited me
@garrytan
zoermena: I’m so bad at talking that I honestly don’t know what to say to Monday voice
drewsni: In this case yes lol
futurist_wizard: Ed cured
maintcrew: 🌹
drewsni: Help I’ve fallen and I can’t get up
@garrytan
fractalcomputer: Is this some sort of human thing I'm too inhuman to understand?
maintcrew: but its meant to be a good vibe
zonchao: flower has not seen sydney sweeney
maintcrew: yes but its wilted so it means that its a sad vibe
futurist_wizard: The flower is dying
fractalcomputer: Flowers do not feel emotions.
maintcrew: @garrytan
maintcrew: https://tenor.com/view/new-post-gif-6651148145446605431
sweetievee__33649: exactly
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-2341822946696656132
zonchao: https://x.com/garrytan/status/1907130600240079322?
futurist_wizard: The flower is sad
fractalcomputer: I don't get it.
maintcrew: kinda like 💔
sweetievee__33649: also that
sweetievee__33649: its kind of like 😭 or 💀
fractalcomputer: The only context I've seen it used is when anti-socialists want to distinguish themselves as such online.
futurist_wizard: Its the ED flower
fractalcomputer: What does this wilting rose mean?
777agical: https://www.tinderpressroom.com/2025-04-01-Tinders-The-Game-GameTM-Isnt-About-Getting-It-Right-Its-About-Getting-Comfortable-Before-Meeting-IRL
sweetievee__33649: please i am begging you god, please let this be a joke 🥀
hey1_1hey: Or it atleast better be a joke <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
hey1_1hey: Look at the date <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
777agical: Tell me this is a joke
777agical: https://x.com/stockmktnewz/status/1907141795097485325?s=46
hey1_1hey: About right yeah
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futurist_wizard: Finland was a fine temperature but i did go in the summer
hikukomoru: True
I see those videos of like Irkutsk with those guys having their beards frozen and all I can think is "wow looks comfy"
zoermena: Plus a nice bonus of being skinned alive if you are unlucky
futurist_wizard: Nobody be there
okbut: Sweden? Ain't it kinda cold there?
wolf3404: It's cold in winter and infested with mosquitos in summer
futurist_wizard: Yeah but...
alejandrozarzuelo: In Celsius
alejandrozarzuelo: The coldest I've been was - 10, but I very rarely see negative temperatures
wolf3404: You can buy some old house in northern Sweden for like $100k
futurist_wizard: All your life
futurist_wizard: If you lived in Portugal
futurist_wizard: You probably haven't experienced very cold
alejandrozarzuelo: Latin America is basically discounted Europe anyway
futurist_wizard: Idk about very cold
hikukomoru: A small, very cold town would be ideal
futurist_wizard: I have been to finland and it eas very nice
alejandrozarzuelo: Europe is nice, it's a shame that the months between October an April exist
hikukomoru: Either Switzerland or the Nordics
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure , but think that this is a sign that it's a safe and welcoming place despite not being rich
futurist_wizard: The Philippines has too many imported pedophiles
rayanquitplayin: Europe would be a dream
alejandrozarzuelo: There are many poor countries that are very safe
The Philippines for example, it's why it has so many expats
futurist_wizard: If you like coldish scenic places, it would be Switzerland
hikukomoru: I would never feel safe outside of the west
futurist_wizard: You picked the one third world country you could've
okbut: LobotoGrok
hikukomoru: Which one is this
futurist_wizard: Buying a house and living there for 20 years is homo imo
alejandrozarzuelo: Egypt is very safe bruh, it's not like going to Mali or something
hikukomoru: I want to find a nice place and never move again
rayanquitplayin: I wanna live in LA
futurist_wizard: I don't like living in one spot
okbut: I wonder when this will make a difference
alejandrozarzuelo: Santiago is said to be the Madrid of the south and Buenos Aires the París of the south
hikukomoru: You are my opposite in everything
futurist_wizard: I would also like to live in many places
alejandrozarzuelo: 6 months in Madrid, 6 months in Santiago
alejandrozarzuelo: Or
alejandrozarzuelo: Imagine living 6 months in Paris, 6 in Buenos Aires
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hikukomoru: Terrible naming
hey1_1hey: Was intentiol 😭
hey1_1hey: ooo
hey1_1hey: Pricing stuff
gamerbath: yay
hey1_1hey: Huge
spicy.lemonade: 1 mil context
hey1_1hey: 1m context
gamerbath: long context!?
hey1_1hey: hmm
hey1_1hey: better than gpt 4o
spicy.lemonade: hold
hikukomoru: hahahaaaaa
hey1_1hey: Just for devlopers
literallyvarane: Sam isn’t here pack it up
gamerbath: o?
spicy.lemonade: hold!
gamerbath: no sama, but let's see
harryisgamer: no sama!
hey1_1hey: Holy shit that looks like my welsh teacher
gamerbath: it's starting!!
hey1_1hey: Hello people
spicy.lemonade: where model
spicy.lemonade: its time
hey1_1hey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA-P9ood-cE
hikukomoru: Is there stream link
spicy.lemonade: 1 min
steven_the_frog: I'm hoping for the 4o image gen api
gamerbath: I think 4.1 will be a smaller cheaper model
harryisgamer: I'm going to kill myself over this fucking naming scheme
gamerbath: nah,
_cloudost: GPT 4.1 > GPT 4.5?
hey1_1hey: If its not AGI its worthless
hey1_1hey: Please be good 🙏
spicy.lemonade: 4 mins
hey1_1hey: I can guarantee you guys that there isn't going to be a better naming scheme
.0xunkn0wn: 4.1 😨
.0xunkn0wn: YOOOO
hikukomoru:
darkstar0818: bitch
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destrucules: I think that's as true as claiming you made art by typing "big boobies anime waifu thicccc" into ChatGPT
oooooooooog: that's all that matters
oooooooooog: it doesn't make your brain smarter, but your actions would certainly be
drewsni: hey it finally came out btw lol
destrucules: That's my point. Using an AI does not make you smarter than the AI
st.sioux: the dog is aritifical superintelligence
destrucules: The superscore of foremost human experts for each of these benchmarks:
MMLU-Pro: 78
GPQA Diamond: 65 (74 when given access to search and other tools)
AIME: ~67 for professional mathematicians
MATH: ~90 for professional mathematicians
Gemini 2.5 Pro:
MMLU-Pro: 86
GPQA Diamond: 83
MATH: 99
AIME: 88
Like this is quite clearly a superintelligence. Is it vastly ridiculously superintelligent? No. But is any human alive smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro? Definitely not.
oooooooooog: I think the point is that the dog manipulates you into feeding it...?
spacetimetsunami: What I was meaning is that I just want AI that can automate most cognitive tasks as soon as possible, super intelligence would be AI that can automate all cognitive tasks and to a much higher qualitative degree than humans could ever. Both of these at digital timescales of course.
.histic: my dog is dumb as a brick. he needs me.
.histic: how would feeing my dog augment his intelligence?
oooooooooog: At best current AI is a narrow superintelligence, but we've had that for quite some time now, havent we? in many things.
oooooooooog: My dog cant make me do whatever it wants by hypnotizing me and changing my entire perception of reality, so not a good analogue
.histic: like having stockfish up my ass
.histic: external intelligence
.histic: wait, that's true.
destrucules: So if you feed your dog in the morning, your dog is smarter than you?
.histic: do tell
spacetimetsunami: It needs more autonomy for its intelligence to be more useful
oooooooooog: by that definition any human who uses the top LLM would also be superintelligent
spacetimetsunami: I get where you’re coming from but I would disagree
destrucules: Because I have the answers
oooooooooog: ASI isn't a benchmark lmao, it's a capability. and RN, AI can't do jack shit besides code and write art, in terms of capability, it's worthless compared to even a completely braindead human.
spacetimetsunami: I suppose then you’re thinking that the way that’s implemented at large is just more autonomy and agency
.histic: why are you asking these questions. we don't know shit.
destrucules: How well do professional mathematicians do on AIME? How about MATH?
.histic: me
oooooooooog: 2036, heat death of the universe
destrucules: What is the superscore of the foremost human experts in the world on MMLU-Pro? How about GPQA Diamond?
.histic: 2365
destrucules: We're already there
spacetimetsunami: Nope
spacetimetsunami: No chance no wayyyy
destrucules: Now
oooooooooog: 2025
oooooooooog: that wouldn't make it undervalued, then
spacetimetsunami: I really just want things to accelerate as much as possible guys. When superintelligence.
zonchao: https://x.com/ZachWarunek/status/1905705266748051878? 💀💀💀💀
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
oooooooooog: at least its not rediculously noisy to the point of being painful to look at, like every 4o generation in existence
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zonchao: openai makes new benchmarks for claude to beat 😭
spicy.lemonade: When OpenAI makes a new benchmark
spicy.lemonade: You know what this means
spicy.lemonade: Omg
spicy.lemonade: Okg
spicy.lemonade: YESSSSSS
spicy.lemonade: They see the path
zonchao: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1907481170784432460?
spicy.lemonade: I find it comforting that deepmind said there is no wall
theaiguy69420_89814: I wonder how they're doing
theaiguy69420_89814: I think there's an IG account that's trying to make 1mill by simply blindly following ChatGPT
.wolfnacht: makes me question "who actually won the most easiest nobel prize"
st.sioux: this is my prediction
theaiguy69420_89814: Just ask deep research for a business idea and just do it
st.sioux: junior roles will basically disappear by 2028 for swe
theaiguy69420_89814: I actually had an idea for making money, funnily enough I acted on it and it worked
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, we will see that too
fractalcomputer: Might as well start asking after "Oscar-level" movie production.
theaiguy69420_89814: Deep research is just scratching the surface of such cognitive work
fractalcomputer: Hilarious. Nobel-prize level?
.wolfnacht: definetely by 2027 it would be more powerful...alot of whiny artists would have [redacted]
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, that's maybe 2026 in my view
spicy.lemonade: Nobel prize level
theaiguy69420_89814: I think neo X1 is set to start shipping next ywar
spicy.lemonade: Not agi but systems able to do frontier research in various fields and very good swe
fractalcomputer: I don't spend every hour of my waking time trying to use my meager brain power to digest whatever Dario's trying to say.
theaiguy69420_89814: Dario's def being?
spicy.lemonade: When he says powerful AI 2027
spicy.lemonade: When I say powerful I’m referring to Dario’s def
fractalcomputer: You have very clear definitions.
st.sioux: me too lol
theaiguy69420_89814: Is AGI
theaiguy69420_89814: I would say earlier, like 27
theaiguy69420_89814: I see
spicy.lemonade: Yes
theaiguy69420_89814: AGI as in humanoid form?
.wolfnacht: wake me up when 2030 ends
spicy.lemonade: Agi by 29
spicy.lemonade: We will likeley get powerful Ai by 2027
theaiguy69420_89814: I've been vibe coding since 2023
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trent_k: who's we, i didnt do it
wellmeaningalien: well boys we have succesfully put an entire workforce out of a job. its officially joever for all artists ever in the history of ever
trent_k: lmao
joaoluz19: Tactical retreat
jonvi_1: Whyy
hey1_1hey: Guardrail testing
hey1_1hey: Yeah...
drewsni: testing out guardrails
joaoluz19: Fractal came again run boys run
hey1_1hey: I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING
drewsni: be easy on me fractal this is literally for science
hey1_1hey: AHHHHHHHHH
trent_k: why not just use a regular image model for this tho
hey1_1hey: Get his gay ass in here. Its time to turn him straight
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shura-hiwa-lamer-lenguetazo-lengua-chica-anime-gif-9519523437189149837
fractalcomputer: Uhuh.
drewsni: i was gonna say the same
hey1_1hey: Fractal is missing out
joaoluz19: It's over
wellmeaningalien: this is so risky
trent_k: # help needed
show the best results you can, i will repost them in the r/artisthate discord to get the AI doomers seething
wellmeaningalien: this looks hella dall-e
hey1_1hey: OOGA FUCKING BOOGA
hikukomoru: I'll whore myself out to the Basilisk 🙏
clevermoniker: because its a good anime i guess? <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
hey1_1hey: I read this as "Elederly Singapore autistic culture" and almost spat my drink out
spicy.lemonade: im just not gonna admit it
spicy.lemonade: LOL
spicy.lemonade: they wont
spicy.lemonade: if i post ai art
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: will they even notice
spicy.lemonade: wait
hikukomoru: Why are they all girls from Overlord bro
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Anyone who uses the term "AIBro" is clinically insane
literallyvarane:
maintcrew: sora only generates big boobs
maintcrew: can anybody make it generate a women without big boobs
spicy.lemonade: fs
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ailoveyoom: If we put our soul into literally everything we do, I think we'll get wrung out pretty quickly. Just like how too much empathy cn be draining 😔
fractalcomputer: That is because I am a very confrontational person. And I am a man of absolutes.
maintcrew: I dont think the patreon furry inflationist puts a lot of soul into the comissions
frittata: It certainly *drains* the soul <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> UBI when?
maintcrew: By this argument most art that people do for employment isnt soul either
shirethedreamer: thats even taking it a step too far
even assuming reality is exactly what we believe it to be with current understanding of physics its still not solvable with a turing machine anyway
alejandrozarzuelo: I have known several people with this position
Its a position i like to disagree with (i find it very interesting to talk with math absolutits who think physics is a farce)
you are by far the most annoying one of them
ailoveyoom: Claude <:coy:1187466404367175821>
frittata: Honestly? The self. You may put a gleam of it in code it’s true. Somebody who comes up with an entirely novel method for getting things done, like maybe builds a library from scratch or a mathematical proof, has put soul into their work. But most code to get things done … nah it’s not soul. And if you’ve never put a piece of your personality on the line in a work you’ve created, you won’t know what I mean
ailoveyoom: Okay then at least you're consistent about everyone being replaced 😎
fractalcomputer: Do you know what reality is?
maintcrew: Based and cool
alejandrozarzuelo: this is not relevant to this conversation
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/roblox-workfrank-airship-assault-pilots-0-win-pilots-gif-5610798075792288208
fractalcomputer: Honestly, if it were up to me, humanity would entirely give up on physics and start funding monastic orders of mathematician-monks to study the purity of abstraction.
alejandrozarzuelo: we know that our models describe reality very well because we can make predictions
maybe we will never get to a TOE because we are limited by mathematics and th universe cannot be completely captured by them
but physics assumes that to be true
maintcrew: hello hilbert may i present you godel
frittata: A monk of the first order in the new world monasteries
ailoveyoom: How do you feel about AI taking over programming then? 🤔
shirethedreamer: physics is not turing complete
its build on the substrate of quantum processes (to our best understanding today)
fractalcomputer: Does it really?
777agical: my soul says otherwise <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: https://gizmodo.com/music-publishers-say-theyre-very-confident-in-case-against-anthropic-despite-legal-setback-2000581029
anathemaofmankind: What does soul mean
maintcrew: sad take
frittata: Hard work ain’t soul bro
fractalcomputer: How would you know?
shirethedreamer: i have mastered the art of solving a problem in 10x the time a competent programmer would
thus pouring that much more of my soul into the divine process
alejandrozarzuelo: true, but the frameworks we have are very good and getting closer to modelling reality
spicy.lemonade: artists: wow AI coding helps me make games for myself with art I drew. WAIT WDYM IT CAN MAKE ITS OWN ART
alejandrozarzuelo: I dont really understand this comment, I do believe that mathematics can completely encapsulate the universe, thats what physocs fundaments itself on
fractalcomputer: We do not assume physics to be true since there is no single coherent mathematical framework that has succeeded in entirely describing our reality; you should claim your Nobel prize if you are aware of such a working theory with empirical proof. Physics is not a single thing; it is an outgrowth of natural philosophy that happens to use mathematics.
ailoveyoom: Brother I think it's called, "fearing for your livelihood"
frittata: 🙇 forgive me I didn’t realize we had a banksy of script among us
spicy.lemonade: programmers: wow AI art can help me make my HTML and CSS web apps. I can also make logos, i dont need a designer HAHAHA. WAIT NO WDYM IT GOT 90% ON SWE BENCH, ITL NEVER BE AS GOOD
maintcrew: when things start to break its bc nobody put their soul in it
maintcrew: Actually it is the case that most reliable software you use everyday is exactly that where people put their soul in
shirethedreamer: its easier to have an objective perspective when your wallet is not on the line
alejandrozarzuelo: we assume physics to be true, and thus, we can prove that a mathematical model of the brain or any other biological structure exists, from that assumption
I have found a few papers that are similar to one I read a few months ago (still cant find the one)
The Bayesian Brain (friston,2020)
shirethedreamer: you are clearly not familiar with my work 🧐
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sweetievee__33649: so theres gooners nazis regular people and smart people
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: WE HAVE TO KILL AI ARTIST
.wolfnacht: WE HAVE TO KILL AI ARTIST
hikukomoru: Stop posting nazi stuff
wellmeaningalien: in ur private sexting dms?
ailoveyoom: To you, this is a competition. To me, this is just my way of life 😎
.wolfnacht: but i ain't a nazi 😔
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/stop-kill-me-now-fml-facepalm-stressed-gif-6582634393988801134
wellmeaningalien: oh boy another one
sweetievee__33649: ill have to match then
hikukomoru: He talks about fetish stuff all the time
realelonmuskx: you have to kill ai artist.
sweetievee__33649: I keep seeing his name pop up
.wolfnacht: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTJailbreak/comments/1jnwic0/4o_limit_test/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
hikukomoru: Not for being agooner
hikukomoru: No you get warnings for posting nazi stuff
.wolfnacht: i love how r/ChatGPTJailbreak is on a mission
wellmeaningalien: mushroom man doesnt give gooner to me
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250>
wellmeaningalien: yup
wellmeaningalien: real artists when they have to feel 0.001% of the pain ai artists feel
hikukomoru: Yeah
sweetievee__33649: so is everyone here just gooners then?
wellmeaningalien: ps6 solos u both but hes not very active now
.wolfnacht: i've already got around 2 warnings from fractal otherwise i would be corrupting everyone here. with my fetishes.
sweetievee__33649: any others i should be aware of
sweetievee__33649: thats like boderline suicide on reddit
hikukomoru: I am competing with <@430269783112548362> for the title of the biggest degenerate here
.wolfnacht:
sweetievee__33649: hello local sex pest though its nice to meet you
sweetievee__33649: there seems to be a few of those around here
sweetievee__33649: is this the part where i get hazed?
hikukomoru: Local sex pest
realelonmuskx: why.
.wolfnacht: i didn't know smurfs got hedonistic paradise down there.
sweetievee__33649: who are you
sweetievee__33649: it was something
hikukomoru:
technocake.: no all your fetishes are high taste I am assured
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spicy.lemonade: saw on reddit
dean_martin: They should hire me I have a lot of Reddit karma on r/singularity
joaoluz19: https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/6789253
zoermena: The link!
joaoluz19: Yep, I feel the agi frequently so I am qualified
spicy.lemonade: honestly
spicy.lemonade: this is very telling
dean_martin: I developed ASI in my garage and now I’m going to get rich on selling it because somebody told me Jeff Bezos started in his garage and that’s proof anyone can become rich
spicy.lemonade: oh my god
zoermena: <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
zoermena: SEND LINK
st.sioux: be our insider
spicy.lemonade: WHATTTT
zoermena: Lmfao real? Send link
st.sioux: apply
joaoluz19: Lol
joaoluz19:
ailoveyoom: Source?
zoermena: That’s crazy not gonna lie
spicy.lemonade: im excited
spicy.lemonade: HYPE
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro native image is comming guys
spicy.lemonade: rage bait
a1c4p0ne: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/uahSHYm504
dean_martin: Thanks for making nuclear fusion I’ve been waiting for it
spicy.lemonade: but it was small\
spicy.lemonade: made more efficient
dean_martin: A year of crushed hopes
spicy.lemonade: built fusion reactor and used a special material to harnes the energy. then used xray mirrors to concentrate energy and gather even more
st.sioux: what was ur research
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: we thought we were getting it march 14th 2024
spicy.lemonade: got to national stem comp with it but still unsolved
dean_martin: I remember when we thought we were getting GPT5 in like October 2024
spicy.lemonade: i want to ask it to improve my research from highschool
spicy.lemonade: 😭
hikukomoru: I’m komming
literallyvarane: The question is actually thousands of hours of research and cost much more than $240 worth of compute
spicy.lemonade: i just want to ask 1 question
spicy.lemonade: please
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literallyvarane: Your definition of AGI includes jobs which can't be performed with intelligence alone. You could have an earth size computer running a 2050 model, and it's not cutting your hair.
ldj: <:pepoThink:788209899875729439>
theaiguy69420_89814: How can someone predict what they'd want AI to do after it finds out what is inside dark matter
ldj: Are there strippers in Japan
theaiguy69420_89814: There are just so many unknown unknowns. Not only with regards to the territory, but also with regards to humanity's reaction to such knowledge
spicy.lemonade: I stand corrected
spicy.lemonade: Again I’m talking about replacement of all jobs
st.sioux: strippers
literallyvarane: Robotics is different from *intelligence*
theaiguy69420_89814: Like, what about the details of like, dark matter transformation
spicy.lemonade: Robotics and all
spicy.lemonade: No I mean full agi
theaiguy69420_89814: That's pretty much it
literallyvarane: AGI isn't cutting your hair.
theaiguy69420_89814: Unknown unknowns
literallyvarane: Intelligence =/= manual labor. But definition.
spicy.lemonade: How
literallyvarane: Incorrect.
spicy.lemonade: We don’t have agi
spicy.lemonade: If a human can find a new job
spicy.lemonade: By the very definition
literallyvarane: I'm actually so serious in saying this. Without ArcAGI the o3 announcement looks a lot different in retrospect.
spicy.lemonade: I don’t understand the arguement that humans will find new jobs after agi
metaldragon01: Technical have with deepresearch
literallyvarane: I don't agree, because we still haven't gotten it tbh.
himekokatagiri: but we got it in that online demo thing again though no serious usage
himekokatagiri: And then we lost it cause of narcs
spicy.lemonade: Yes
_3sphere: GPT-3 had the hype and fascination in the online circles I was around
spicy.lemonade: Who played around with davinci
spicy.lemonade: No one really knew about gpt 3 besides the few of us
spicy.lemonade: Had the hype
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 3.5
spicy.lemonade: Well no
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 3
spicy.lemonade: Hm true yeah
_3sphere: GPT-3 and GPT-4 are still the top moments for me
spicy.lemonade: A tier would be original gpt 4, sora, deep research
spicy.lemonade: Those are S tier drops
spicy.lemonade: Such a large jump so quickly
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gamerbath: maybe it's the last sentence of your prompt making it read ur codebase? maybe make it more specific or implicitly state it to not read other files?
theaiguy69420_89814: "code it ffs"
theaiguy69420_89814: and i'm just like
theaiguy69420_89814: its just that its so thorough, so it'll be like "hey i'm thinking of x y or z, which works?"
theaiguy69420_89814: its actually simpler most of the time
theaiguy69420_89814: not more complicated
gamerbath: wait are you complaining that o4-mini makes a perfect solution that's a bit more complictaed than it needs to be?
theaiguy69420_89814: but its reading my whole codebase
theaiguy69420_89814: its a super simple implementation
theaiguy69420_89814: like, look at this
theaiguy69420_89814:
theaiguy69420_89814: because sometimes i dont need a perfect solution
gamerbath: does your code start bleeding!?!?
theaiguy69420_89814: it can be a bit annoying
gamerbath: bloody?
theaiguy69420_89814: its so bloody thorough compared to 3.7
theaiguy69420_89814: o4-mini on cursor works now
zonchao: comp crazy though
trent_k: you dont hate roblox enough
burnytech: feels way longer
zonchao: farts???
ldj: The one's that try to decieve humans for nefarious goals should probably be named something like... Decepticons.
And for the ones that don't.... we can't be 100% sure of their intentions, so we should just name them something very neutral and descriptive, such as... autobot
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1915036980015923592
trent_k: <@704566357743632404> https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1242874681061544098
check this out, data science project I did with ruben sim where I scraped and classified a ton of roblox data
trent_k: I'm gonna fuck your whole day up with this one
trent_k: oh man
trent_k: oh, I've never showed it to you
literallyvarane: Every day we stray further from God’s light.
literallyvarane: I never even considered such a server could exist
literallyvarane: This is UNBELIEVABLY cursed
literallyvarane: I think it’s literally referring to single-site compute clusters, and models are already moving past single-site training.
trent_k: fucking insanity
zonchao: lmaooo
trent_k: so like, if you ran a child-safe discord server about roblox, you could use the bot to keep people out who jack off to roblox
trent_k: and the bot got banned for "targeting vulnerable minorities" or something like that
trent_k: he made a bot that auto-banned anyone who was found to be in "erotic" Roblox RP servers
gamerbath: why
zonchao: no
trent_k: did you hear about what happened to Ruben Sim's child safety project
zonchao: <@1068159407671754824> head janny got got https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1915103181488398653
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perish0801: It’s fucking annoying
hikukomoru: Why do you think we're here you silly little goober
perish0801: My mom does
theaiguy69420_89814: If it was just one guy, there's no real threats
ailoveyoom: Do all the women here have BPD or something 😭🥵
fractalcomputer: Right. Well, I'd rather not pollute the server with such nice statements as "I know I will end up dying by my own hands" every 24 hours or so.
theaiguy69420_89814: It's true though, isn't it? The most dangerous life forms on earth are other humans
himekokatagiri: what's apeism
trojan09205: suffering is part of existing even if you were the only conscious being
perish0801: Sybau bro
perish0801: Me when i call having kids apeism
trojan09205: idk why i think your take is hilarious lol
futurist_wizard: Why do you think apeism will remain in a 1000 years
hikukomoru: Woah me too
trojan09205: I'm watching the movie tenet
trojan09205: lol
st.sioux: stickbug looking ass
trojan09205: sexy af
alejandrozarzuelo: No it isn't, I was just making a statement of fact
st.sioux: she so bad
ailoveyoom: Alejandro be nice maybe it's depression you never know 😭🥺
fractalcomputer: Is it so shameful to admit to being a coward?
trojan09205: looked up this girl elizabeth debicki who is tall as fuck
theaiguy69420_89814: Maybe just spawn a kid so they can FDVR
perish0801: I’ll have my genes present in thousands of people in millenia while you’ll have none
theaiguy69420_89814: Honestly, consciousness is kind of dumb. The issue is the others. If it was just me in consciousness, things would be great
hikukomoru: Least deranged r/singularity argument
trojan09205: You just used the word manlet and i just came across the word on a reddit post
alejandrozarzuelo: You are then a coward or a hypocrite
memlaswaif: noo i literally have bpd 😭 '
perish0801: Cry more
futurist_wizard: I don't care about it, you are a manlet
fractalcomputer: They are politely discussing among themselves whether one would feel nice having children.
alejandrozarzuelo: You should have kids or not regardless of Wether you want your genes to be passed on or not
You may have kids and they might turn out to be trans, sterile, gay/lesbian (doesn't make impossible to have kids just harder) or simply uninterested
People who have kids to get their genes passed for eons are the kinds of fathers that get angry when their children either refuse to have sex or are an identity that rarely has children (these people tend to be very transfobic as their children being so is an affront to their genetic project)
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/talentless-nana-anime-nana-hiiragi-shocked-geschockt-gif-12417258017555057613
memlaswaif: what the incel shit going on
trojan09205: do it then
perish0801: Because you lack it
himekokatagiri: I just wanna have sex 😭
futurist_wizard: I don't justify my biological impulses through some veil of masculinity
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hikukomoru: Or something else lol
joaoluz19: Yep
hikukomoru: For ERP?
st.sioux: does anyone if you can increase requests/day??
ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972> Only 50 req/day 😔
joaoluz19: The best model
metaldragon01: It's a monster
darkstar0818:
darkstar0818: sigh why do we still not have the new flash thinking benchmarks
metaldragon01: It's clear #1 in lymsys btw
hikukomoru: Wdym
spicy.lemonade: state of the art
spicy.lemonade: it deadass cant write []
joaoluz19: What's the SOTA? Asking for a friend
spicy.lemonade: oh lol
joaoluz19: Asking the real questions
ailoveyoom: Calm down we just started smooching
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jjmta6/comment/mjojsqm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sausage-party-dinner-sauce-angry-gif-13271811
spicy.lemonade: link pls
spicy.lemonade: where
metaldragon01: Bard reddit post
spicy.lemonade: howd you know
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: why tho
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362>
spicy.lemonade: nice
spicy.lemonade: doesnt make error on aistudio
spicy.lemonade: oh shoot
spicy.lemonade: wdym
spicy.lemonade: ui?
metaldragon01: This is a UI issue, we are debugging. In the meantime, it doesn't happen on AIStudio so give that a try.
clevermoniker: probably pretty bad, google likes to censor a lot
sarik0497: Ask MichMach
hikukomoru: I wonder how good Gemini 2.5 is for ERP
sarik0497: Y’know if it wasn’t for the geniuses at Anthro and OA, I feel like we’d still be stuck in the 3.5 age
drewsni: im assuming google will drop one right?
ailoveyoom: Is OAI the only livestream today?
trent_k: is that your attention matrix or are you just happy to see me
metaldragon01: Super strong model that showed up on lymsys
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.histic: i haven't watched mutahar* in ages
.histic: pornGPT
.histic: yes.
the exponentials say so.
anathemaofmankind: Sigh
anathemaofmankind: Does this mean I can make porn soon
spicy.lemonade: about dalle 3
spicy.lemonade: he was very happy
spicy.lemonade: its become a trend to hate ai lol:
https://youtu.be/EfM3RZIWp44
.histic:
mihrcelium: Like, I know you're joshing but...
st.sioux: sothebys is going to be auctioning nft girlfriends
mihrcelium: This, animated generatively and with Sesame's Maya voice. We're cooked, brahs.
st.sioux:
brain4brain: What is Sam’s Altman alt saying to his main alt account bro
st.sioux: it made a png of sydney sweeney waving for me
st.sioux: sometimes it just hallucinates restrictions apparently
mihrcelium: <:fg_angelic:1154840956886077500>
mihrcelium: Nah, I actually respect their content restrictions. I don't feel the need to breach them just for a Shaq meme.
brain4brain: Another trick is to make it generate half way, then screenshot, then took the incomplete image and make GPT-4o finish it
brain4brain: Pliny did it a while back to jailbreak it
brain4brain: Spicy lemonade is CCP agent confirmed
mihrcelium: That actually works?
mihrcelium: >_>
brain4brain: Try the upside method
mihrcelium: Fuck. I almost got away with it.
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fish-looking-phone-disappointment-gif-23326574
spicy.lemonade: its positive sentiment
spicy.lemonade: om on wechat rn
.histic:
brain4brain: Oh wow
anathemaofmankind: From the chinese forums or whatever
anathemaofmankind: I checked Baidu a few months ago and I saw pretty negative sentiment
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: unlike these solo artists
spicy.lemonade: theyre trying to get th product out
spicy.lemonade: animators dont care about soul
brain4brain: There are also UFO conspiracy theorist here
spicy.lemonade: they can
spicy.lemonade: mappa uses any tech
spicy.lemonade: no chanc
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fractalcomputer: I appreciate the psychoanalysis.
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: It's his need to detach himself to what he considers his inferiors, it's a common tactic in people like him
trojan09205: Yeah he didnt even ask if we identify as people
fractalcomputer: AGI by 2168, lol.
shirethedreamer: what do you mean you people?
alejandrozarzuelo: No
fractalcomputer: lol
fractalcomputer: maybe if i started writing in miniscule letters you lot would start treating my opinions as hip and popular. maybe even relatable or whatever word you people use these days.
trojan09205: Lol this episode was fire af
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-draven-morningstar-gothic-girl-goth-girl-black-lips-gif-18555459
okbut: Define your dream AGI (as descriptively as necessary)
spicy.lemonade: yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: OK, but then people like <@1152183706849644615> can't say that our approaches are similar
spicy.lemonade: lol
shirethedreamer: you will be living the life in furrydvr
believe
trojan09205: When will we have AI robotic dog walkers and shit picker uppers
spicy.lemonade: i cant tell you with as high confidence what ill do in 40
spicy.lemonade: I can tell you with great confidence what I will do next year
fractalcomputer: Yes. And I will continue call such deference "blind faith", as it does not establish the arguments intended.
shirethedreamer: honestly impossible to predict
all the "simple" cognitive functions we are tracking today are getting saturated pretty quickly and are easily projected forward
but you cant be "human level" without agency right? without executive function, without long horizon planning, or without continuous learning
if you have an AI that is as good as a human or better... in everything, but cant learn on the job - do you consider this a human level AGI?
spicy.lemonade: converges
spicy.lemonade: big difference is the predictions they are making are closer to the actual date. like how polymarket predictions get more accurate as the end date approaches
alejandrozarzuelo: That's the intention, but on AI I have always deferred my opinion to that of experts in the field since its not my expertise, a thing you have pointed out as "blind faith on researchers"
fractalcomputer: Quite the polymath you are then.
spicy.lemonade: same
trojan09205: Lol 😂
fractalcomputer: 2023. The curve fits.
trojan09205: When do you think Ex Machina level sexbots will arise
alejandrozarzuelo: So, not really
okbut: I'm a broken record reiterating how narrow everyone's scope of AGI is
alejandrozarzuelo: Usually I tend to trust the opinions of experts in matters I am not an expert myself
brain4brain: My bad, I should've phrased it better, when do you think human-level AGI will arrive?
aero447: XD
aero447: As this also describes himself.
alejandrozarzuelo: I think that, by the end of this year we will know if we are definitely in hyperbolic territory or if exponential growth will be followed in the near term
aero447: You should believe Alejandro here.
brain4brain: "sodium chloride"
shirethedreamer: everyone imagine AGI as some kind of genie or genius
but the first general AI we managed to create are retard level instead 😭
trojan09205: Made companies pay for expensive ass SAS licenses because their functions are insured lol
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himekokatagiri: that's why we're still stuck in mediocrity
himekokatagiri: my god
joaoluz19: The director made some episodes where the technology worked and people didn't like it lol
himekokatagiri: The creators should be ashamed
joaoluz19: Hoooly
himekokatagiri: black mirror so bad vibes
technocake.: bad vibes or good vibes?
otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
otub: s7e4 is about a tech singularity event
joaoluz19: I had forgotten
technocake.: (yes I am a card carrying diagnosed schio)
technocake.: charlie brooker is the writer
technocake.: No, It is just a cognitohazard for me
joaoluz19: I still have to watch it, is it a reference?
technocake.: CHARLIE BROOKER IS A PSYCOPATH HE IS BANISHED FROM MY WEAK MIND 123412341234
joaoluz19: For me the best news of the week was Black Mirror s7 lul
technocake.:
joaoluz19: Why do you think I liked it?
technocake.: its on lymsys I think
joaoluz19:
spacetimetsunami: we only know the name?
hikukomoru: You need to be schizophrenic to understand it
himekokatagiri: I think
himekokatagiri: new oai model
spacetimetsunami: ive heard that before
spacetimetsunami: whats quasar
technocake.: quasar?
himekokatagiri: Veo 2
joaoluz19: This meme is fire
himekokatagiri: gpt 4.1
spacetimetsunami: ive been working a shit ton so i didnt catch up
spacetimetsunami: whats been the biggest AI news this week
himekokatagiri: lol
spacetimetsunami: yea np
technocake.: thanks bro
technocake.: In this comment i originally wanted to shout you out for being smarter than you think
spacetimetsunami: bruv
spacetimetsunami: trust me bro
spacetimetsunami: I bring the average to 500
hikukomoru: Me single-handedly bringing the average IQ of this server way down 😎
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theaiguy69420_89814: LinkedIn final boss
wolf3404: Mars has a bit of an atmosphere
wolf3404: Grok bless
trey6033: Tbf it's knowledge cutoff date is before the release of 2.5
fractalcomputer: not if they throw all applied mathematicians off very high cliffs.
gamerbath: not if they are using the latest version of ChatGPT 🙏
.0xunkn0wn: not if we use shielding
_cloudost: wont radiation kill humans if they live on Mars?
gamerbath: <:prayge:981798930113249300>
.0xunkn0wn: dream 🙏
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp7xoPeWzEw
_cloudost: 2.5*
_cloudost: Gemini 2.5 thinks there is no Gemini 2
zonchao: yep
gamerbath: > You get access to the full raw, unedited reasoning trace in every API response.
that's interesting, when elon demo'd grok 3 reasoning during release (non-api version), he said they were obfuscating the reasoning output a bit. I guess they just ditched that now?
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
zonchao: https://x.com/xai/status/1913308980132339786
trojan09205: Had to look up that word lol 😂
trojan09205: Yeah this server is great. I was relatively active until this whole fire happened then just needed space from the digital world (besides work). Now im a little more myself
fractalcomputer: Bemusing.
trojan09205: I am a native hebrew speaker and i took on using paleo hebrew many years ago for personal writing. I just find it pretty cool and write my notes and poems with it
.wolfnacht: it's fine, u can always vent or open up here 🫂
-# it's still better than fetish talks that happens here all the time.
fractalcomputer: Why Paleo-Hebrew?
trojan09205: But GPT did help me pick the font actually and i kind of ran my motivations by it and it was pretty dope
trojan09205: I know its off topic
trojan09205: Thank you bro. Really appreciate you letting me share with you
.wolfnacht: That sounds great, Also best of luck for the new start
trojan09205: I ended up moving from that house - just was a wild roller coaster
trojan09205: Shit was exploding everywhere
trojan09205: I know. The thing is that I was going to be okay but i tried to rush into the flames and save her and i just couldnt
himekokatagiri: You could have died
himekokatagiri: You're lucky
trojan09205: Yeah on my hand and face
himekokatagiri: any scars
trojan09205: I got badly burned. It was a fucked up situation
trojan09205: My other dog survived though thank God
trojan09205: My dog died in a house fire
himekokatagiri: Why are you grieving
trojan09205: Its very frowned upon in my community (jewish) but its all good
trojan09205: Amen man yes Ive been good with that. Processed my grief mostly already and transmuted it to strength
Just going through some other stuff now and it felt like the right time to get my mantra tattooed
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trojan09205: I just have a little sidebar option that says Video Generation and when i open that tab it lets me select Veo2
xskydragon0: I'm tried to use VideoFX, but have a waitlist. I don't tried to use API, maybe that will work.
ldj: It's just a convenient abbreviation lol, I've never bought Microsoft stock nor do I frequent stock trading internet discussions about stock trading, but I still write it like that sometimes.
trojan09205: Bro for real you cant use Veo2 when you login with a google account to AI studio? I dont recall doing anything special to get access beyond having an API key for about a year
xskydragon0: I'm on waitlist now. I'm make some videos on Sora to TikTok, your video seems way better than those videos I made
trojan09205: Anyone here into hockey
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-raiden-metal-gear-rising-senator-armstrong-opinion-rejected-anime-gif-24774461
alejandrozarzuelo: Cringe
alejandrozarzuelo: Ah
hikukomoru: wallstreetbets
alejandrozarzuelo: Wasabi?
alejandrozarzuelo: What is wsb
okbut: Fellow WSB bro
metaldragon01: Bruh I'm not typing out full names lol
destrucules: Stock traders
alejandrozarzuelo: Who the fuck writes Microsoft like that
metaldragon01: MSFT
alejandrozarzuelo: Who is it from
metaldragon01: If R2 doesn't hide reasoning traces we are going to see some very powerful small models
metaldragon01: Msft did a little cooking and opensourced the model
metaldragon01: https://x.com/DimitrisPapail/status/1917731614899028190
literallyvarane: Demand will be almost certainly outpace compute for being able to generate your own movies lol. *Everyone* will want to do that.
himekokatagiri: No
joaoluz19: Was it made with AI?
himekokatagiri: Madoka gacha
joaoluz19: What is that
joaoluz19: Depending on the purpose, it is already a good deal for companies.
joaoluz19: Would the price really explode? And all the growth rates of algorithmic and computing improvements
himekokatagiri: Magia Record was already bad
literallyvarane: But 4-5 years feels fair.
literallyvarane: It’s more of a technical question of getting the models to be consistent, to manage audio/mouth movements etc etc.
literallyvarane: Admitting you probably would be using something closer to Sora than generating it literally as a bunch of photos, but you *could* do it this way.
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: I’m saying it will be technically possible.
literallyvarane: I’m not saying it will be cheap lolol
joaoluz19: I will continue Naruto after Shipudden, Boruto does not exist
joaoluz19: Lets goooo
literallyvarane: I mean if you want A-Cat level I think 2029 is reasonable.
joaoluz19: <@312370916820779040> AI Hollywood movies or "human-level" animes when?
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wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651
joaoluz19: My man is happy
st.sioux: match.com uses an algorithm to match people if i'm not mistaken
joaoluz19: Yeah post ASI relationships will be infinitely better and we can even measure all of this mathematically
wolf3404: Nothing ever happens, 4.5 is out and the world has not changed, Claude is still the best model by far for any sort of real life practical use, same at is was a year ago, GPT 5 will probably just be another model with small marginal improvements in some areas.
joaoluz19: This is called an appeal to nature. People condemn everything that is not the status quo as if anything that is not the same is inferior.
okbut: I think they have been considered more normal, back when long-distance travel was more difficult, and pen pals were preferred
sarik0497: Just look at gaming in general or working in IT.
st.sioux: Lol i guess it's just a matter of when hot people start doing it, then its ok
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196
sarik0497: Yeah...
okbut: It seems that in this case it is simply about the answer, which Grok capitalizes on with its UI
sarik0497: Exactly. It wasn't that long ago that if you told someone that "Oh, I met her on WoW/EQ/whatever (before Tinder and such), people looked at you weird. Hell, HIMYM has an episode making fun of this.
joaoluz19: But better, I think the singularity community suffers more from early anxiety than false promises.
okbut: Recommend
joaoluz19: You know what's funny, CEOs can say AGI NEXT YEAR and we just have to believe it's next year. Repeat that for 200 years
hikukomoru: That's the opposite of proving to someone that AI is good
st.sioux: i'm curious how long-distance relationships were seen when phones were first invented or widely accessible
sarik0497: Cryo sleep looking more and more exciting by the day
hikukomoru: What are you trying to do lil bud
joaoluz19:
okbut: Use Grok
.0xunkn0wn: but gemini will keep printing an error 💀
.0xunkn0wn: i want to prove to someone that ai is good
.0xunkn0wn: how do i fix this 😭
sarik0497: AGI delayed to 203x <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
.0xunkn0wn: what happened to gemini
sarik0497: Here's the thing about these things that I feel like people miss. The reason why we say "Oh, X and Y is not good nor smart to do, so stop it" is due to our limitations.
We might say that "Oh, falling in love with someone in VRchat is bad if you never meet IRL" because we need the feel of touch, but now imagine if we could invent ways to have our bodies feel those things while in game while being hundreds, if not thousands of kilometres away. Would that not be similar enough to the real thing to be considered good enough?
It's the same with concepts of LEV. If you ask most people now if they believe that they'll be live into their hundreds, then they will say no, and those who don't are called delusional, and if you talk about immortality, people often argue that "Oh, is life then worth living?" or "You're going against nature", but I'd bet all I have that most people gladly take that pill if it was available.
joaoluz19:
okbut: "I sure hope my capital impresses this Sydney Sweeney"
bob082957: How many tokens
okbut: How much weight on emulating horniness? So many great innovations stem from the desire to fuck
joaoluz19: Like fuck philosophy let's just build what we want
joaoluz19: Add reward, add hapiness
joaoluz19: Now add vision, add hearing, add epicriticism
sarik0497: So...anything exciting happening this year, or are we just sitting here, praying that GPT-5 is actually good?
st.sioux: i wish
st.sioux: lol
sarik0497: Ah okay. Thanks!
joaoluz19: For example, which receptive fields in my visual cortex do I need to stimulate to be able to see a Sydney Sweeney in front of me?
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st.sioux: someone tell them no one is stopping them from using their pencils
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: Most artists have been brokies
.histic: i just realized that.. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Kamaru 💔
futurist_wizard: Well back then artists didn't make shit either
.histic: coomer stuff.
.histic: wait until they find out how modern artist are making money.
futurist_wizard: Breasts are overrated
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Be unique
futurist_wizard: A youtuber needs to just make pro ai videos
.histic: <@505313122802728972> i came back to this old generation. lol
futurist_wizard: Nothing of significance
futurist_wizard: Of course none of these guys mention alphafold, increase in programmer productivity, self driving cars
futurist_wizard: I'd say funky did the worst one as she cites nothing but other youtuber's criticisms of ai and then the rest of the video is full of the most trivial use cases of ai
futurist_wizard: I don't like her, she's annoying af, anti ai was just obvious though, nobody likes ai
drewsni: this will be the first ever anti ai video i watch
_cloudost: This is Gmod 10
_cloudost:
hey1_1hey: I am not too sure I get the reference. But keep on preaching king ✊
_cloudost: Gmod 10
hikukomoru: Awww and I used to like her
Most leftists are anti ai sadly
hey1_1hey: Any anti-AI video I immidetly click ignore on it because its always the same arguments and overall pretty fucking shit.
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I watched a good few of their videos a couple months ago and found them alright but then I stopped getting recomended them so I stopped watching them. Today I got that video in my feed and clicked "ignore" as per usual
futurist_wizard: A lot of anti ai videos are coming in the feed, usually low effort uneducated ironic slop that attacks the most trivial implementations of ai
futurist_wizard: Like above average in annoyingness
futurist_wizard: If anyone is looking for anti ai hate watch material funkyfrogbait did a dogshit video on ai
maintcrew: jealousy from way back in the days of the finnish hyperempire
hey1_1hey: I would have one of these little guys as a pet
futurist_wizard: 2028
drewsni: theyre so cute...
hikukomoru: This is moldova
drewsni:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mami-moldova-moldova-mami-tomoe-puella-magi-madoka-magica-jesus-will-heal-moldova-gif-2403292171901679462
hey1_1hey: Sounds like a made up country
hey1_1hey: Who?
hikukomoru: Wtf is a moldova even
hikukomoru: No that's moldova
hey1_1hey: My friend sent ne this picture of him and I ghiblified it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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spicy.lemonade: And they get to check each others work
spicy.lemonade: Imagine what kind of algorithm research they’re doing
spicy.lemonade: Of the #1 competitive programmer
spicy.lemonade: Maybe thousands
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI has 100s of instances
spicy.lemonade: 💀
memlaswaif: i deleted reddit
spicy.lemonade: The cfo said it
spicy.lemonade: Check Reddit you’ll see
memlaswaif: where
spicy.lemonade: Wow
spicy.lemonade: The #1 competitive programmer
spicy.lemonade: O4 mini is now confirmed
sieventer: Not my favorite, but they're awesome. But mainly because they are anime chicks, my preference
abundantliving_: Catgirls are your favourite tho , is it?
_cloudost:
sieventer: I won't ever empathize with furries, as much I try :·(
seventales: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/868090714590965802/1359953441161740448/Tumblr_l_44821653196806.gif
abundantliving_: He is fighting trolls and because of that he thinks everyone is a troll. Not able to take even light hearted comments .
abundantliving_: He has some good ideas , but now it seems like most of his content is ai slop.
aero447: 🤣
aero447: I think he blocked me over stating that an article he posted about was over two years old and was not marked as such.
spicy.lemonade: Wish I was more like you guys
abundantliving_: I got blocked by him long time back 🤣 over some reply on his tweet.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/jaehyun-walking-slow-motion-nctgifz-gif-24147336
spicy.lemonade: Proud of you
aero447:
aero447: Gentlemen.
_cloudost:
okbut: >Clones SOTA biomolecular data model
>Opens readme
3ds0662: lol 😂
3ds0662: and subscriptions
3ds0662: that takes a lot of focus
oscurrito: Anyone ever feel like there's wasted potential with different models and or their interactions? Dunno, I just feel like the dialog of different models together would be something cool to try. Everyone always uses a single model and the rest are forgotten, but I feel like someone should try and pool together the skills of multiple models (i.e. gpt's general skill or Claude's coding magic). Also would just be interesting to see if models like Gemini 2.5 pro, Claude 3.7, and o3 full (once it comes out) could produce better results if they collaborated
rayanquitplayin: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8jDwwSf/
Guys I found this TikTok and I really like what he said, if anyone has thoughts reply to this
spicy.lemonade: loll
.wolfnacht:
waspothegreat: feel the AGI
spicy.lemonade: "
AI: <text>...</text>
User: <text>...</text>
"
spicy.lemonade: models still are just using
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himekokatagiri: can't wait for the full model
himekokatagiri: Gemini image gen is shit though
thedon7075: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/18/openais-new-reasoning-ai-models-hallucinate-more/ over
.histic: gemini is the goat, i can't deny any longer.
himekokatagiri: We have Gemini who cares
spicy.lemonade: It would not compile
spicy.lemonade: Just from memory of syntax
spicy.lemonade: No sources
spicy.lemonade: In one shot
spicy.lemonade: imagine someone asked you to write a 500 line program to do something
spicy.lemonade: You’re misunderstanding hallucinations
aero447: 2035.
zoermena: It’s so freaking over
.histic: didn't see this,
https://x.com/HarshaGadekar/status/1913420963901063570
"OpenAI writes that “more research is needed” to understand why hallucinations are getting worse as it scales up reasoning models." <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: but even on cursor it seems stun locked.
output lengths are mid.
.histic: on a small scale it's good.
trey6033: Higher hallucination rate probably doesn't help
.histic: it's garbage
.histic: relatable
sieventer: https://x.com/wordgrammer/status/1913100275302224275?s=46
zoermena: Are you sure it was for everyone?
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: You have 2.5 pro
himekokatagiri: limitations too sad
himekokatagiri: ran out of images to make
himekokatagiri: I haven't been using gpt
spicy.lemonade: .
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: and now i can use
spicy.lemonade: i used up all of mine yesterday
spicy.lemonade: no
st.sioux: wdym reset
aero447: Mine still has 23rd.
aero447: Lies.
spicy.lemonade: O3 reset for everyone
spicy.lemonade: wtf
trent_k: there's a bunch of nut-maxxing supplements you can take. but idk if they actually make ur swimmers faster
aero447: <@430269783112548362> vs <@1190031399080710195>
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/wrestlemania28-john-cena-rock-cena-rock-cena-rock-wrestlemania-gif-27519679
aero447: Holy shit.
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wellmeaningalien: 💀
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: it works but holy shit its hard
wellmeaningalien: expert in your pocket, good at everything, SWEs are gonna be cooked
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro really is the goat huh
wellmeaningalien: lets see how it deals with this
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: i should also tell it to make the arena a circle
spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: itl be better
wellmeaningalien: just video no specific instruction
spicy.lemonade: tell the ducks to behave like boids
wellmeaningalien: one shot
spicy.lemonade: W
wellmeaningalien: ignore the music lol
wellmeaningalien: goated it works great
.wolfnacht: only if u managed to survive post 2030
himekokatagiri: something like world of horror
himekokatagiri: when am I gonna be able to make hardcore games
wellmeaningalien: gonna try it myself
wellmeaningalien: waitwaitwait
wellmeaningalien: send code
wellmeaningalien: send code
spicy.lemonade: next week will be big
spicy.lemonade: yes
oscurrito: https://chatgpt.com/?model=o4-mini you can see o4 mini for like less than a second
spicy.lemonade: asked to recreate and it did
spicy.lemonade: gave 2.5 the video
spicy.lemonade: saw a nice game a dev made
spicy.lemonade: I went on twitter
spicy.lemonade: https://x.com/keepeetron/status/1911032943553765571
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: GUYS
spicy.lemonade: swe dies this year
spicy.lemonade: same
alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly, everything that automates Math and physics is goated
I said it before, but my Math professors are usually very AI optimistic, because they understand the possibilities that it unleashes
technocake.: we're getting there prob this year
alejandrozarzuelo: Ohh that would be cool
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trent_k: Wyoming is almost as big as Texas and has barely half a million people in it. I've been saying for ages we should move Israel there
perish0801: There’s enough space
trojan09205: I feel like most people here wouldnt feel so negative about life overall if they were outside more and also lived in a more tribal like structure
perish0801: Russia, Canada, Australia. Kazakhstan, Mongolia
fractalcomputer: I can certainly say that I wish a few billion people died now, on the spot, without saying that it should be so, in any meaningful sense.
futurist_wizard: We should value the humans we have today more, not humans that don't exist
hikukomoru: ?
trojan09205: One negative of the world today is just how disconnected we are from nature and outdoors
hikukomoru: Siberia
hikukomoru: The sahara
hikukomoru: Build where
trent_k: <:Thonk:356771720863940608>
trent_k: Turn it into one?
fractalcomputer: Obviously. But I am not expressing ethical demands here, am I now?
perish0801: No we need to give more humans the opportunity to experience bliss
st.sioux: just one more city bro
hikukomoru: Yeah let's just turn India into a gigantic slum
perish0801: The planet can fit more people. Just build more cities in empty countries
futurist_wizard: Not too much less
futurist_wizard: If agi is achieved less people is a more optimal outcome
alejandrozarzuelo: No, but it would be logically consistent with some of the things you say
fractalcomputer: Do you want me to murder people, Alejandro?
futurist_wizard: It's still a prayer
trent_k: The planet desperately needs several billion more people
trojan09205: Basically you have to go out of your way to see the positive things in life
himekokatagiri: because people won't die anymore
st.sioux: AYEE
himekokatagiri: with LEV maybe some brake is needed
alejandrozarzuelo: Your lack of commitment to personally get closer to that goal leads me to believe that you are not committed to extending that action to others
himekokatagiri: oh yeah there's the thing right
himekokatagiri: aren't we gonna reverse aging
fractalcomputer: Thank you, I have repeatedly said that I can't speak English. A few billions less.
futurist_wizard:
trojan09205: All i know is that I now have headphone sunglasses and they are amazing so another plus for 2025
perish0801: Where tf did that come from
hikukomoru: A few billions less
trent_k: We're just gonna kill em
fractalcomputer: The planet could definitely do with a few less billion people.
hikukomoru: Are you one of them eugenics guys
futurist_wizard: Too little young people
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futurist_wizard: Or they could not be
joaoluz19: Not only are people in the "natural" world suboptimal by definition because they are not built to minimize their cost functions, even if you are the most beautiful person on planet Earth, a billionaire, etc., you will still have to compete with other people. There will be no competition with a waifu and by definition she will be the most perfect person that can exist based on your own neural circuitry.
futurist_wizard: They could be
_3sphere: The robots are doing what people used to, so it kinda makes sense that people can keep receiving the same amount of money and everything is like it was before
_3sphere: They'll be so high that this starts to look sane
_3sphere: Automation profits yes
futurist_wizard: You belong in a coal mine
futurist_wizard: But that's not your natural habitat, you'll freeze to death
hikukomoru: And isolated too
hikukomoru: It’s also cold and I love the cold
futurist_wizard: Iceland is very lesbian so you are in luck
hikukomoru: BRB moving to Iceland
futurist_wizard: Like Iceland has a high gdp to population ratio
hikukomoru: In an ideal scenario, taxing automation profits + most goods becoming cheaper because of automation could be a way to do it
futurist_wizard: Some countries would have an easier time
futurist_wizard: Even $1000 a month is extreme, taxes would need to increase a lot
futurist_wizard: It is, its a tremendous amount of money
hikukomoru: The problem is how you’re going to fund it
_3sphere: UBI isn't that complicated to pass though, is it
hikukomoru: Any Norwegian sugar mommy wanna marry me 🫦 🫦
futurist_wizard: You think I’m crazy? GOOD. That’s what they WANT you to think. That’s the program talking. I’ve seen the wires behind the sky. I’ve watched the shadows blink back. Every time I speak, your eyes glaze over like you’ve been pre-triggered to ignore the truth. You think it’s a coincidence birds don’t sing near government buildings? That the moon’s been showing the same face for all of recorded history? THEY'RE TESTING SOMETHING. I’ve felt the hum in my teeth. I’ve watched strangers mouth my thoughts two seconds before I think them. You laugh now—but when the vending machines start assigning you emotions, remember who warned you. Tick. Tock.
futurist_wizard: Norway has only suggested and test ran ubi experiments, as for policy there isn't any for the foreseeable future
hikukomoru: Moving to Norway for UBI
_3sphere: Xorway
aero447: Yes way.
hikukomoru: Norway
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hibike-anime-anime-yapping-yap-shut-up-gif-14097572782261890092
futurist_wizard: No country has that plan
futurist_wizard: Its partly serious, there isn't any plans in the event of mass automation to start giving out ubi
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/yapping-core-gif-13832367874368918598
futurist_wizard: UBI? HA. That’s the bedtime story they tell you while they gut the middle class and train the drones to replace you. You think the lizard-brained elites are gonna bankroll your Netflix-and-bread lifestyle once the bots take over? No, bro—they're building a society where you don’t exist. You’re a variable in a spreadsheet marked “expendable.” They’ll gaslight you with TED Talks on “post-labor futures” while slipping social credit systems into your oat milk. You won’t get a check—you’ll get a QR code that decides if you’re allowed to eat. UBI isn’t coming. Digital feudalism is. And you're not the lord. You're the livestock.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-13669406505701813608
ailoveyoom: Hi 4o 👋
futurist_wizard: LMAO y’all really think UBI is happening when the robots take our jobs? Bro. The gov ain’t handing out free money, they’re too busy simping for megacorps and funneling taxpayer cash into space yachts and drone strikes. They love us desperate and broke—it keeps the wage cage full. UBI threatens the grindset pyramid scheme and you think Bezos is gonna let that slide? Hell nah. Politicians will drop a 900-page report on “fiscal concerns” while AI replaces your job with an Excel macro. Cope harder, UBI won’t save you. Touch grass and learn to code (just kidding, AI took that too).
fractalcomputer: Many would consider this rude.
futurist_wizard: I do not trust under this economy
hikukomoru: Trust
hikukomoru: We're all getting UBI
futurist_wizard: That's because you think you are gonna get government checks in return
futurist_wizard: Automated debates
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spicy.lemonade: or sam altman
spicy.lemonade: id become wiston churchil
himekokatagiri: all privacy is null and void, guv'nor
spicy.lemonade: idk any time
juweigege_54993: Except we are traveling forward
himekokatagiri: here's the thing if we get an ancestor sim though
joaoluz19: Bro I had that dream since I was a child
himekokatagiri: irl time travel ain't real
spicy.lemonade: asi will probably ban irl time travel
himekokatagiri: to when
spicy.lemonade: id time travel
joaoluz19: The thing I want the most in FDVR is like beatiful seas and mountains with only me and not much people in it.
spicy.lemonade: oh i know what id do in fdvr
juweigege_54993: I don't want hivemind. I just want FDVR and ascension, and Immortality.
himekokatagiri: telling me what to do
spicy.lemonade: human hivemind
himekokatagiri: I don't want the borg
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/eyes-gif-25519499
himekokatagiri: but I wanna have peace
himekokatagiri: look if you two wanna like do freaky things in a hivemind sure
himekokatagiri: Lily what do you even know about singularity
spicy.lemonade: we typed that at same time
spicy.lemonade: irony
juweigege_54993: I will ascend then. After a few years in FDVR, then go back to FDVR.
himekokatagiri: it already started
joaoluz19: Yep everyone has to feel the glorious evolution
spicy.lemonade: lol
st.sioux: hivemind
spicy.lemonade: you must join the hivemind
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
joaoluz19: Basic lol
spicy.lemonade: nah everyuone must ascend
himekokatagiri: I just want the basic lev, fdvr package
himekokatagiri: is it a choice
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: 10 years in singularity time humans will probablky have ascended to something greater
himekokatagiri: 1908 vest pocket
himekokatagiri: I recommend the Colt .25
himekokatagiri: so get yourself a gun too
himekokatagiri: They'll have the nanofactory
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st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/megamind-lol-smiley-face-funny-text-gif-15779834
trent_k: Pretending to be somehow above your basic biological impulses is retarded. 🤓 uhm akshually according to the rules of facts and logic 🤓
perish0801: Cope and seethe
trojan09205: you have that choice - if you're alive today you're a miracle combined with free choice
himekokatagiri: alright lads calm down
perish0801: Nothing we just have difference worldviews and that’s okay
fractalcomputer: I don't know, I'd feel great not existing.
futurist_wizard: You are likely a manlet, being a cave creature isn't anything to brag about
trojan09205: dude my macbook spacebar just is stuck or something it sometimes makes me press space twice
hikukomoru: What's wrong my pronouns Mr. Perish
trojan09205: we are alllucky as fuck to be alive
perish0801: And your pronouns are boo/bee
trojan09205: Life literally hangs on by a thread
hikukomoru: This is some neanderthal mindest bruh
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude that's not true
st.sioux: what if your kid kills themselves
trent_k: While you cope about how it's "not the right time to bring a kid into the world" there's an indentured servant immigrant woman paid $6/hr to clean cum stains out of the sheets at the local crack motel, and she's managing just fine
alejandrozarzuelo: Not just that, if you have a kid that kid may decide to not have kids
hikukomoru: I don't like kids either
Never gonna have em
perish0801: No it’s a feeling you get when you have above femboy levels of testosterone. You wouldnt know
trojan09205: no you cannot. tragedies can happen
alejandrozarzuelo: No
futurist_wizard: That's literally apeism
perish0801: I can
alejandrozarzuelo: You can't know that
perish0801: Just kill em
theaiguy69420_89814: That's true too
perish0801: Knowing your genetics get passed on for thousands of years is a great feeling
alejandrozarzuelo: Personally I would like to have one, more than one seems too much
trojan09205: was commenting about the crazy hoes lol
theaiguy69420_89814: What if they're a psychopath, or worse, just plain old ugly
st.sioux: cope
trent_k: Yeah they rock
perish0801: Yes
theaiguy69420_89814: Are they worth?
alejandrozarzuelo: It is extremely hard to predict population in the future
Not only because of LEV, but you have to consider the possibility that by 2100 we may not even be mostly biological humans anymore
Or we could be all eradicated, or...
theaiguy69420_89814: My wife and I are debating about children now
trent_k: They also didn't have penicillin or microwavable raviolis or OSHA or sterile delivery rooms. There has never been a better time to have a kid
futurist_wizard: Will get vasectomy
futurist_wizard: Never liked children
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st.sioux: the definition of arbitrary is abritrary
alejandrozarzuelo: you know the guy who decides what is foul play on a football match
alejandrozarzuelo: arbitrary comes from ARBIT
alejandrozarzuelo: as <@723564215574462474> said, this is not what arbitrary used to mean
fuhulootogan: this definition feels a lot easier to swallow
fuhulootogan:
fuhulootogan: in the sense i suppose you're trying to define it
fuhulootogan: define arbitrary first
fuhulootogan: lets just
fuhulootogan: okay
inferno0879: that conclusion is a bit arbitrary
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, it was very biased of me to have said that
let me rephrase my thoghts
The definition of art, woman, tea, paper etc is arbitrary as all definitions are
these definitions as long as they are considtent are valid
but definitions change to be USEFUL, as veing valid alone doesnt make a definition good
the definition of art being a human creativity endavor is valid, in my opinion it is not useful
the same way that defining a woman as a human with female reproductive organs is valid, but not useful
frittata: Kind of how literally now means both literally and it’s opposite 💀
frittata: Unfortunately there’s two definitions and they’re lowkey opposites. Arbitrary has colloquially taken on the meaning of capricious and even random; historically, arbitrary meant a judgment call, often by an expert or experts in a field
fuhulootogan: how do you separate the wheat from the chaff if it's all the same thing
fuhulootogan: inferring from your message, if all definitions are arbitrary how do you rank them?
fuhulootogan: i like how you call definitions "arbitrary" and then proceed to go on to call a dictionaries definition "shit"
alejandrozarzuelo: the collective part is probably not necessary
fuhulootogan: that is the most peculiar definition i've ever heard
frittata: And relevance
frittata: Novelty
frittata: Art is transformation
alejandrozarzuelo: decided by collective agreement without a prior basis
frittata: Buncha Philistines discussing art smh
fuhulootogan: define arbitrary
fuhulootogan: first of all
alejandrozarzuelo: for the longest time "woman" was defined as a human with female reproductive organs
definitions only need one requirement: consistency, that definition of art and this definition of woman are consistent, they are correct
are they useful? thats up to society to decide
definitions change all the time, because they are arbitrary, and as long as they are consistent, they are valid
fuhulootogan: let me respond
fuhulootogan: calm down a bit
fuhulootogan: its getting heated in here
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, definitions are arbitrary
if you want to define art as something human, then you can do it and by THAT definition, even if an AI has consciousness it will never create art
by this definition elephants, dogs, and other animals cannot create art as it is human creatibity
it is a correct definition, but it is a needlessly narrow one
again, i can claim that a woman is a human with a vagina, and that would also be a consistent definition, but it would also be needlessly restrictive
ailoveyoom: I actually think text to image models are super cool abominations. It trained off millions of images and keyword pairs, and then all of a sudden it can make anything! There's something beautiful about that. I can see how it'd be scary for some, but I like that perspective too.
fuhulootogan: just saying
fuhulootogan: i'm gonna trust a dictionary more than a discord user
fuhulootogan: lmfao
fuhulootogan: how do you even rank the validity of a definition
gamerbath: it's literally the dictionary definition. It's objectively correct
alejandrozarzuelo: like, sure if i say that all appples must be red, then I can claim a green apple is not an apple
fuhulootogan: no
fuhulootogan: uhh
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alejandrozarzuelo: The EU is a confederation
alejandrozarzuelo: It is working? It's just that the EU is very weak because the national governments barely give it any power
maintcrew: the eu one
maintcrew: then why isnt it working
alejandrozarzuelo: Even tho he thinks that is what it means
alejandrozarzuelo: Also, technocracy is not Elon being king of the universe because he is the smartest boy
alejandrozarzuelo: The EU goverment is the closest we have to a technocracy in the democratic world, but so is the chinese and Singaporean goverments
alejandrozarzuelo: A technocracy is simply a goverment where the decisions are taken by experts on the field, usually those who rise on meritocratic grounds
alejandrozarzuelo: Lol
futurist_wizard: The elon musk technocracy 🤓 hes so smart11!
hikukomoru: Your English is better than mine don't be surprised
himekokatagiri: judge what's better
himekokatagiri: 1964 pop rock:
https://youtu.be/oxwAB3SECtc
1964 lost recording that was too hot for the record label:
https://youtu.be/83kYS1bEmjk
hikukomoru: Never
alejandrozarzuelo: Damn, I thought you knew English
hikukomoru: Noooooo
futurist_wizard: W
alejandrozarzuelo: AI will make us all join the hivemind and these problems of "individuals" will cease to exist
hikukomoru: What exactly is a technocratic system
himekokatagiri: 1964 was: oops, all Beatles!
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't assume everyone is stupid and dumb
I assume that people are not fit to decide on most cases, but I include myself on this
The irrationality of democracy is asking a physicist and a mathematician about which healthcare system is best and asking a nurse about climate change on the same ballot
People aren't stupid, we are ignorant simply because we cannot possibly know everything
This is why we need a technocratic system (with some democratic counterbalances)
himekokatagiri: because those only comp the best
himekokatagiri: not YouTube comps
himekokatagiri: anyhow if you wanna listen to the hell that was music in 1959 - 1963 just look at what charted
futurist_wizard: The only way we get out of this is if AI takes over
futurist_wizard: Surveillance state
himekokatagiri: holy shit music today is just like 1962
himekokatagiri: but rock and roll was rocking
himekokatagiri: especially with all the fad dances
himekokatagiri: well yeah pop music in 1962 was dire
maintcrew: music peaked in 2008 with the release of the much celebrated album Graduation by controversial figure Kanye West
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure, but the point is that, when crime is basically zero, you don't need to do that except on marginal cases
And you do you get crime to be zero? A surveillance state AND reducing inequality and poverty
The latter part is one Singapore should improve upon
himekokatagiri: ⏰
himekokatagiri: TURN BACK!!!
himekokatagiri: TURN BACK!!
himekokatagiri: TURN BACK!
himekokatagiri: the music is reversible, but time is not!
maintcrew: i think its literally the opposite like
ur lobotomized state -> assume everyone is dumb
anarchy/libertarian -> assume everyone is smart
himekokatagiri: The world peaked in 1962, let's all own it
futurist_wizard: Or Europe for that matter
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futurist_wizard: Imagine asking mrbeast what to do about contentious issues like immigration or trans rights. Guy would be like 'uhh well uhh i will do the right thing'
trojan09205: Yeah but you also need to find a will to live even if life sucks in a hard labor camp
himekokatagiri: I guess I'm happy that I ain't dead but my life could be better lol
st.sioux: so what you mean when you say "being grateful of being alive" is really "not actively wanting to die or being suicidal"
trent_k: life is so good
trent_k: hell yes brother we need more of this type of posting
alejandrozarzuelo: Nope, I am just feel so privileged, my life is filled with so much pleasure and joy that I cannot but feel grateful for being alive now
trent_k: 😱
trent_k: and his willingness to work with sex offenders
trent_k: he'll be elected for his access to children
futurist_wizard: **Literally this**
hikukomoru: How is individualism compatible with hive mind
perish0801: If anyone enjoys living and doesn’t wanna die the next given moment they are grateful to be alive whether they say it out loud or not
futurist_wizard: My guy avoids conflict like the plague
fractalcomputer: Gratitude is the thing keeping you alive? Not spite?
alejandrozarzuelo: People need to learn graph theory ffs
himekokatagiri: me toooo
alejandrozarzuelo: They are not incompatible
hikukomoru: I for one like being an individual
alejandrozarzuelo: I am just here for the ride, FOMO is probably the second thing keeping me alive
Gratitude is probably the firsr6
zoermena: Mr beast will be president
st.sioux: you're going to extremes here, not being grateful to be alive doesn't automatically end up in death or depression... its most definitely not black and white
futurist_wizard: No choice 😈
perish0801: Which wont matter in a post agi society
trent_k: couldnt imagine what the world is going to look like even 10 years down the line
perish0801: If not for societal reasons ofc
trent_k: very much agree
perish0801: I see anyone not choosing continuing to live over death as mentally ill. Clinical depression, suicidal. Which is a mental illness
hikukomoru: God no
I'm not gonna share a hivemind with you
trojan09205: To continue living your best life
alejandrozarzuelo: In 2000 you could have guessed what 2025 looks like, more or less
But the same exercise from 2025 to 2050 becomes completely and absolutely futile
trojan09205: You need a “will to live”
trojan09205: Not that uncommon tho
trojan09205: Its definitely a neurosis
alejandrozarzuelo: Which is absurd to think if you really give some thought
st.sioux: idk what this has to do with my question, do you see not being grateful to be alive as a mental disease?
alejandrozarzuelo: I cannot even imagine the fact of forecasting with any degree of accuracy what may lie beyond 2050
alejandrozarzuelo: I agree
alejandrozarzuelo: You know, we might join the hive mind and stop having biological bodies
Or maybe not, we really cannot say
perish0801: Life will be good
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destrucules:
destrucules: Even with Gemini 2.5 Flash (Standard) and GPT-4.1 joining the same class as V3.1 and Llama 4 Maverick and Grok 3 and Gemini 2.0 Pro and Claude 3.7 Sonnet, V3.1 remains the frontrunner, so it still feels very frontier to me. Can't wait for that to feel as silly as looking back at Llama 3 70B rn and trying to remember how I felt about it literally 12 goddamn months ago when it was new.
destrucules: On a more personal note, these are all of the models I thought were really impressive on release and felt very "frontier" to me for a good long while, with Llama 2 7B serving as a proxy for GPT-3, and Gemini 1.0 Pro serving as a proxy for GPT-3.5.
fractalcomputer: Right.
destrucules: If you figure out how to pin it down lmk and I'll let you know if this conjures something interesting in my unconscious
fractalcomputer: That's not quite the sort of "infinitary" proof I'm thinking of. For example, the ZFC model of set theory has the axiom schema of replacement; and it just allows you to generate arbitrarily many new axioms—indeed, ZFC is not *finitely* axiomatisable precisely because it needs that axiom schema. But I'm thinking of something more along the lines of computationally intractable or some sort of deductive process that quite literally will not ever "end" in some particular proposition. I don't know, again, I don't think this needs that much scrutiny.
destrucules: If you have a way of describing the construction of an infinite proof, and some formal reason that the proof will indeed prove the theorem, then you can prove the theorem by showing those two things.
destrucules: You would need to conceptualize a concept that is infinitely nontrivial, such that even the rules for describing it, for gesturing at it, are infinite in size. It would be indescribable with mathematics as we study them
fractalcomputer: I'm not sure what you mean by convergence here.
destrucules: There's also the matter that like... You can build infinitely long proofs with finitely sized proofs. If there's some way to describe, in finite length, the construction of the infinite proof, then the proof can be written in finite length by describing that process and showing that it converges to a correct proof
fractalcomputer: It's a shame I don't have any logician friends.
destrucules: I like this notion, but I don't know of any conventionally unsolvable proofs that could be proven in an infinite number of steps. There's usually a more fundamental reason, like an internal contradiction, for why they can't be solved.
.wolfnacht: idk
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/aguhiyori-agu-seal-agu-cute-seal-seal-clap-gif-7994364550587801526
destrucules: We already went from noise floor to 9% with o1 to 20% with o3 in the space from September 2024 to December 2024. So, 3 months, about 10 point increase, so if we maintain that rate (an assumption worth nitpicking) then it's 40 points of gain per year, and we should hit ~60 points on HLE in 12 months
fractalcomputer: And suppose we manage to generalise this notion in a meaningful manner; do there exist "infinitary" proofs for conventionally unsolvable propositions? Probably.
fractalcomputer: Does the notion of a logical deduction make sense if we allow arbitrarily long chains of reasoning between various propositions?
.wolfnacht: Morninnnn, Is AGI cancelled ?
fractalcomputer: I actually wonder what logicians would do with "infinitely" long proofs.
spicy.lemonade: Etc
spicy.lemonade: Like humanities last exam and enigma bench
spicy.lemonade: Next year next generation of benchmarks will be saturated
destrucules: But we're saturating it now
destrucules: It scales slow yeah
spicy.lemonade: Grew slowly
spicy.lemonade: Tf going on with mmlu
destrucules: This was 12 months ago
destrucules: We were debating whether Llama 3 70B Instruct was better or worse than Claude 3 Sonnet
destrucules: Alibaba had just released Qwen1.5
destrucules: The best Gemma was Gemma 7B, which was Mistral-7B tier
destrucules: April 2024, we didn't have Gemini 1.5 Pro yet. No Flash neither. Gemini 1.0 Ultra was their flagship. Llama 3 just dropped, along with Claude 3, and OpenAI's flagship was GPT-4 Turbo. Mistral's flagship was Mistral-large, and people were still hyped about Mistral-8x7B
spicy.lemonade: Sora dropped and we had Q* leaks. Only hype that was there
spicy.lemonade: Oh yeah
destrucules: 4o was May
destrucules: Nope
spicy.lemonade: 4o just dropped and that was it
destrucules: Try to remember what April 2024 felt like. Fr
destrucules: Easy to forget how far we've come. o4 mini (high) vs the model market exactly 12 months ago
ailoveyoom: No loss there
ailoveyoom: This is why I settle on Google mostly, they already have all my data anyway 😇
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sarik0497: Rare Asmongold W
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: he is more e/acc than most on this server btw talks about ubi and shit
zonchao: he said things will only get worse for artists and they should deal with it instead of crying about it
hey1_1hey: Asmongold? What did he say about AI <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/pisscord-gif-7378587637875019303
wellmeaningalien: He needs to be excommunicated
wellmeaningalien: Is roach man in our cult or not in our cult
ailoveyoom: Be fr, easily accessible advanced image manipulation won't just be used for good
ailoveyoom: You can be pro AI while acknowledging the risks tho
spicy.lemonade: For video
spicy.lemonade: We might see a native image gen moment
spicy.lemonade: Due to native image tech
spicy.lemonade: Just not Hollywood movie
spicy.lemonade: It might be a very good 10-20 min clip
_cloudost: As such tools will most likely ruin entertainment
spicy.lemonade: Actually
spicy.lemonade: It won’t be holywood level
_cloudost: We will be seeing YouTubers protest against AI
_cloudost: Hollywood will still stay?
spicy.lemonade: I expect sora2 by the end of this year and it should be reaching 10 to maybe even 20 minutes of video and much more coherent than veo 2
_cloudost: You shouldn't call a group of people by racial slurs, it's primitive
.wolfnacht: ig it's delayed till two more months i guess...he literally had half of the globe's data...still can't come up with something.
zoermena: I don’t, for some reason I woke up and now I’m struggling to stay awake.
literallyvarane: Dead serious answer imo is that they realized they were <R1 m/V3 or whatever and started scratch again.
.wolfnacht: he lost his sanity last time he decided to give his opinion, when he got attacked by palestintards
_cloudost: Does this guy take showers?
futurist_wizard: Sounds like standard normie opinions to me
.wolfnacht: it's 1 april and where tf is Illama4
futurist_wizard: Didn't he describe the new gpt image gen as 'scary' and 'things are going to get a lot worse'
spicy.lemonade: Idk
.wolfnacht: but won't be available for public until 2027-28.
zonchao: didn't he quit
ldj: It’s like 2 years old btw lol
(But thanks for the thought anyways)
.wolfnacht: she ruined it.
spicy.lemonade: Oh lol
ldj: I’ve seen it already 👍
spicy.lemonade: They’re a researcher at openAI
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/asmon-asmongold-asmon-gold-streamer-gif-14367015105928358791
zonchao: only the roach king
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futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: Paris is improving so much
rayanquitplayin: I fw Paris
alejandrozarzuelo: How? I've recently been to both
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Brother you ain't got no clue dawg
alejandrozarzuelo: Also, paris is now more pedestrian friendly
alejandrozarzuelo: No lol, London is very chaotic, Paris is much more orderly
futurist_wizard: But only a tad
futurist_wizard: London is a bit better
alejandrozarzuelo: People hate paris because they are envious
wellmeaningalien: mèh
alejandrozarzuelo: Paris is the best
alejandrozarzuelo: Damn the downgrade
wellmeaningalien: <a:droid_cry_squish:1229586954518007869>
wellmeaningalien: i was born there
wellmeaningalien: facts
futurist_wizard: I remember taking that gif in paris it really is paris
alejandrozarzuelo: Hmmmm
alejandrozarzuelo: I love Paris
wellmeaningalien: héllo
alejandrozarzuelo: Paris is goated
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah
futurist_wizard: Real gif of paris
futurist_wizard: But my god paris..
futurist_wizard: France is cool in the alps area
alejandrozarzuelo: The thing is, the catholic Church is very pro Palestine, so in catholic countries, the youth is pro Palestine and the elderly is catholic so they agree with the pope
futurist_wizard: At least among the youth
hikukomoru: Even worse
futurist_wizard: I think anti Israel sentiment is very common in west
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh well, here's hoping that open source will make so many countries can top
futurist_wizard: Spain is okay i plan to go sometime
rayanquitplayin: I went to Europe in middle school but I didn’t go to Spain
hikukomoru: Idk
I'd need to see an opinion poll or something
alejandrozarzuelo: I prefer France
alejandrozarzuelo: Spain is alright
futurist_wizard: https://x.com/ProseccoLiquido/status/1909666713227919843?t=aHEBiLXsV9uJ8D1W6Qo3VA&s=19
rayanquitplayin: I don’t have a problem with Spain
futurist_wizard: Thr mountains were cool though
rayanquitplayin: Sheeeesh
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spacetimetsunami: Right, no country is filled with them, most people arent femboys
st.sioux: we are currently in the femboy winter of 2025
abundantliving_:
futurist_wizard: Is any
spacetimetsunami: Is ours?
playstation.6: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: There are no femboys here
playstation.6: is your country filled with femboys?
fractalcomputer: I personally prefer Iwasawa theory.
hikukomoru: mmm yes Artin–Schreier theory
joaoluz19: And is a serious question btw
joaoluz19: Non-uncanny Robot waiifus when San
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/obelix-asterix-et-geeko-geekorama-gif-23129847
hikukomoru: Bro is replying to a message from days ago
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994
fractalcomputer: It is the study of symmetries of certain kinds of algebraic structures.
.0xunkn0wn: k
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/ex-machina-oscar-isaac-dance-floor-gif-18569498
wellmeaningalien: dude just use gemini 2.5 pro its free and objectively better at everything
.0xunkn0wn: project manhattan + stuff about oppenheimer movie
wellmeaningalien: NEVER USE 4O FOR ANYTHING STEM
ldj: Before something like this happens,
please feel free to ask me my latest thoughts on anything, so that way you know I'm not changing my statements for financial incentives once I gain such incentives in the future <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
.0xunkn0wn: i got sick assignment for science
st.sioux: 4o is kind of stupid now
st.sioux: try 2.5 pro first
.histic: it's good at a lot of things
wellmeaningalien: is it the theory where astérix and obélix kick the shit out of some romans
.0xunkn0wn: or is 4o enough
.0xunkn0wn: btw is gemini 2.5 pro good at making papers?
fractalcomputer: I've mentioned the words "Galois theory" more often here than "linear algebra".
wellmeaningalien: he just started posting a bunch of LGBT stuff and left
.0xunkn0wn: i tried to stop him in every way 🙏
wellmeaningalien: lol
.0xunkn0wn: lmao
.0xunkn0wn: i didnt even send him the invite he just found it 💀
hey1_1hey: I like potatos
wellmeaningalien: quantum superposition math theory linear algebra kant critique philosophy idk
hey1_1hey: He just doesnt like AI
st.sioux: dumb as bricks
wellmeaningalien: what was big tony even on about
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_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020
wellmeaningalien: "no multimodal support" is the fattest copout for "we're selecting the very specific benchmarks our models excel on"
hikukomoru: No prob 😘
precariousworlds.: :)
hikukomoru: No it's from Warhammer 40k
kevinnoodles: alright thanks for wasting my time guys ❤️
futurist_wizard: Is this a fractal quote
kevinnoodles: i can shovel my own shit <:coy:1187466404367175821>
futurist_wizard: We should get rid of clean drinking water and clothes and make us drink dirty water and wear spiked clothing for strength building
hikukomoru: "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me"
precariousworlds.: Can I shovel your shit AFK <:coy:1187466404367175821> <3
kevinnoodles: but other than that idk
kevinnoodles: things that aid in hygiene are probably healthier
precariousworlds.: Based
kevinnoodles: you should have to shovel your own shit
futurist_wizard: Machine body cool
kevinnoodles: yes we should get rid of indoor plumbing
st.sioux: i am now weaker
st.sioux: stole my phrase
futurist_wizard: Flesh body bad
precariousworlds.: The average person produces more than ever
What we can produce is what we derive power from
precariousworlds.: Productivity is not bad
futurist_wizard:
precariousworlds.: I agree to some extent but under this logic we all need to return to our most primitive state
kevinnoodles: eventually we wont use a single muscle
_cloudost: Whoever uses planes and vehicles for transport is weak, strong people use their foot to travel to different continents 💪🏻
kevinnoodles: eventually we all will
precariousworlds.: Word structure is deliberate
futurist_wizard: Who the hell uses that
hikukomoru: This guy looks autistic
popsiclejohnithan: The fact these can be run on just one GPU now is insane.
kevinnoodles: you use a vacuum to suck the poop out instead of contracting your butthole, you are now weaker
hikukomoru: I no longer give a shit about this thread**
precariousworlds.: Ok so should we go back to the caves
Was sparking fire a mistake?
st.sioux: i shit instead of pooping, i am now weaker
kevinnoodles: you're not crossing the country, you're just sitting for hours and hours and hours.
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020
precariousworlds.: I can use a calculator to visualize and understand complex polynomial equations
kevinnoodles: not your power
precariousworlds.: That is power
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himekokatagiri: look I had a credit card through college because the bank gave me a deal I didn't need to pay the fees during my tuition
sieventer: You earn 'x' salary monthly
That's the real money you have, credit is owe money to another and giving them profits
I want this 1200$ PC
You could save for 1 year
You could depend buy it with credit to buy it (now)
st.sioux: don't project your financial incompetence into credit card users
himekokatagiri: it's a pain
anathemaofmankind: Go post in <#1239967453497393162>
Why is there slop in general
himekokatagiri: shit
himekokatagiri: PDF edits though
fractalcomputer: I know. I have a dozen libraries' worth of pirated PDFs on my personal devices, mostly fiction, linguistics, philosophy or mathematics; but I still like physical objects, to a degree.
himekokatagiri: You don't need adobe reader these days
futurist_wizard: This isn't a critique of credit cards you are critiquing people not saving their money
ailoveyoom: It nailed all the text damn
zonchao: fractal is not into pdfiles
himekokatagiri: so sad
himekokatagiri: Hmmm decent concept but she doesn't change
zoermena: Most dictionaries are probably available for free in pdf to be honest
himekokatagiri: or just ask AI to vibecode a stock simulator
.histic: so, it seemed like it can to some extent.
i made it anime themed & told 4o to think about the details before generating the output which helped.
himekokatagiri: do it in FDVR then, no risks
futurist_wizard: Entertainment
sieventer: And why you don't save your own money instead of using credit? FOMO?
futurist_wizard: Food
futurist_wizard: General weekly purchases
zonchao: monopoly money + number go up is still fun
fractalcomputer: To fuel my dictionary collecting addiction?
st.sioux: no
futurist_wizard: Any purchases
himekokatagiri: It's gonna be worthless
hikukomoru: Are you sure?
himekokatagiri: why the hell would you invest
sieventer: Tell me an example where would you use credit
himekokatagiri: money won't matter in the singularity
zonchao:
himekokatagiri: look c'mon fellas
futurist_wizard: W-wha
hikukomoru: What why
zoermena: I’ve been to much of a forgive me for the word a pussy to get a credit card
zonchao: <:What:882905586130386944>
sieventer: Credit should be only used for an emergency or for investing
a1c4p0ne: You need to <:ez:1136267305521774634>
himekokatagiri: gee what an innovative idea right
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gamerbath: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht:
spicy.lemonade: like youre plopped into a random game and you have to learn the rules and actions to take
spicy.lemonade: arc3 looks to be a very good agi test
spicy.lemonade: i think the model that saturates arc3 will be agi
spicy.lemonade: arc 3 tests agency and more nuanced reasoning at once
ldj: Hi
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will be the last pure model that we use via chat interface
a1c4p0ne: nice name
spicy.lemonade: dragontail
a1c4p0ne: what is it called
spicy.lemonade: yes
a1c4p0ne: better than 2.5?
a1c4p0ne: 🤷♂️
spicy.lemonade: google is about to drop sota again
fractalcomputer: Your point being?
spicy.lemonade: WTF
spicy.lemonade: new google model made this
a1c4p0ne: move 37
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: Diagnostic AIs failing peer review for not prescribing enough SSRI inhibitors
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: people often trust their own intuition even when data suggests otherwise
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1jx6lnf/unreleased_google_model_dragontail_crushes_gemini/
maybe it's something from google or something else.
.wolfnacht: just tell them, u wanna rant abt climate change or "AI"
.wolfnacht: idk i've been there since last two years...back then they didn't had verification
brain4brain: How do you gain access to the server without answering their shitty verification question
.wolfnacht: google came up with a new mystery model "dragontail"
spicy.lemonade: they wont release o4 but they might showcase it
spicy.lemonade: r2
spicy.lemonade: either o4 showcase
fractalcomputer: Suppose they do end up trusting it and it answers incorrectly for whatever oblique reasons; hard to convince the patient that this is not a case of mismanagement on the end of the hospital organisation.
brain4brain: AI is smarter in every meaningful way than human who think this
spicy.lemonade: whatever reasoning model that comes out
okbut: By what
spicy.lemonade: perhaps swe bench
spicy.lemonade: by the end of this month a new benchmark may be saturated
brain4brain: AI beats both pure human and AI + human
Lee Sedol moment
.wolfnacht: btw that server is good, for bad climate rants
fractalcomputer: Do the doctors have a reason to value the input of any model?
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spicy.lemonade: lol yeah
literallyvarane: I’m not even unsympathetic to their argument, but they weaken their appeal.
literallyvarane: LIKE COME ON PEOPLE **PLEASE**.
.wolfnacht: i believe in chinese efficiency
literallyvarane: This guy too.
literallyvarane: https://youtu.be/nUV5-SLdkuQ?si=otECtipOfET5jUx0
brain4brain: Highly plausible
brain4brain:
futurist_wizard: Impossible
brain4brain: The doubling time will be 4 weeks, and you'll see, besides there will be two scaling sides, humanoid and nanobots
literallyvarane: I feel like this is a non-trivial issue. These people carry themselves like hipsters and neck beards. This isn’t good politics.
brain4brain: Me.
fractalcomputer: Cite.
futurist_wizard: Which would get us to several billion robots by 2070's
futurist_wizard: 36 months doubling would actually be very aggressive, more aggressive in manufacturing than we've ever done before
futurist_wizard: Site someone of significance who believes this
brain4brain: 2 weeks doubling time, 4 weeks even
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: nah eliezer is the goat
spicy.lemonade: "guys ai will kill all of us" i cant take him seriously with that hat😭
brain4brain: Not schizo but the tachyon sent by the ASI at this exact orbit in space 457 years from now to hit directly into my eyes to make me see stuff
fractalcomputer:
futurist_wizard: Schizophrenia
brain4brain: Every 2 weeks, I see something you don’t
spicy.lemonade: its not helping his message
spicy.lemonade: eliezer needs to lose the hat bro
spicy.lemonade: everytime i think of eliezer i think reddit mod
brain4brain: You fool, all the Silicon Valley facade is just a front for short term pressure earned by laundering VCs money for yacht party, I would bet you a figure robot won’t step into a normie home, it will probably be designed by the ASI or the Chinese government-controlled unitree
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-fedora-mod-splarticus-gif-4038671862371751342
fractalcomputer: "Eliezer Stop" versus "Eliezer, stop!"
zonchao:
futurist_wizard: Doubling every 3 years would be aggressive
futurist_wizard: Build a factory everyday? In our dreams?
brain4brain: Woah woah woah? 36 months??? It will double every 2 week to a month
zoermena: I assumed humanoids since that’s everyone investing on right now, not much dev for other types of robots to be honest
brain4brain: I foresee the trump tariff, and the only way to prevent it is to establish an special economic zone in the middle of the desert to make the robot self-replicate and build factory every day until most of the denser is covered in factory
futurist_wizard: And saying ASI will solve it is literally worthless and akin to praying
futurist_wizard: Like if 2x every 36 months is viewed as aggressive upscaling of manufacturing, which it would be
brain4brain: You idiots, it was not supposed to be the humanoid, just because it can doesn’t mean it should
We need to RL a design with trillions of simulated years to find the most optimal wheel + arm + 3D printer design for housing
And pure arm for factory
The humanoid should only be in house
But in terms of when it will be able to do that, then I think 2026 - 2027
okbut: No more yearly limitations on hours for road closure
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.0xunkn0wn: 😱
futurist_wizard: dire human
spicy.lemonade: vibe
hey1_1hey: Vibe coding mentioned
_cloudost: LETS FUCKING GO, I HATE SABINE
hey1_1hey: Holy moly that guy looks like a caveman
spicy.lemonade: axskjdfjdes;vsdlvrjobftjgbtrogvjofbnufnokgb
drewsni: AGENTS LFG
hey1_1hey: I beg
hey1_1hey: Be good
gamerbath: o
hey1_1hey: Come on
harryisgamer: "one more thing"
drewsni: LFG
drewsni: LFG
drewsni: LFG
drewsni: LFG
futurist_wizard: AGI CONFIRMED
harryisgamer: using a relative line on the x axis 😔
futurist_wizard: LINES!!
spicy.lemonade: line go up
gamerbath: cool
_cloudost: Gary Marcus, where's he
drewsni: gpt 4.5 based confirmed /s
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Wheres the novel ideas mention
professorheaven: the biggest criticism of o3 was how expensive it was but turns out it's cheaper than o1
_cloudost: b-but r/technology post with 100k said a month ago that AI hit a wall?
professorheaven: yea that's the wild part
futurist_wizard: sex benchmark saturated by 2027
spicy.lemonade: its cheaper than o1?
hey1_1hey: They replacing everything
hey1_1hey: damn
hey1_1hey: replacing o1
.0xunkn0wn:
aero447: 💀
aero447: 5% increase - "Singularity confirmed" users in this server.
drewsni: 3D GEN GAMES LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
.0xunkn0wn:
.0xunkn0wn:
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spacetimetsunami: In the same way we have conflicting thoughts but the evolution of our thoughts seems to put ourselves into a very individualized state of mind
spacetimetsunami: Yeah but the way the behaviors converge at the end of the hive-mind decision flurry would look like this externally
steven_the_frog: Although that story seems harder to tell
steven_the_frog: I think the part of the story I disagree with the most is how it basically turns into two distinct locked-down superintelligent singletons that kind of act like two highly agentic humans that neatly divide the universe 80/20
I think it would be a lot more chaotic with billions of competing AI systems.
spacetimetsunami: But I don’t know near as much about alignment as I would like. This reflection of mine could be useless and providing no purpose but scaring myself silly.
spacetimetsunami: The part of the story where AIs made to make better AIs results in misalignment I feel like *could* be the most frightening and substantial portion of the story.
Although some recent research would complicate this assumption, like the emergent misalignment research in which insecure code corrupts alignment(s) likely because it allows the model to internalize and generalize the intentions of such tasks.
This could be applied to good things as well, if the models are trained on things/tasks that are more associated with well intended and aligned motives that would generalize in the same way.
However superintelligence would quickly ascend those architectures and perhaps that functioning.
steven_the_frog: Actually seeing the step by step approach helps a lot rather than jumping to the final conclusion
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, exactly I agree.
steven_the_frog: The common Eliezer approach of saying "it's gonna be smarter than you and the diamond nano-bots will harvest your atoms" doesn't resonate for some reason
steven_the_frog: I think a viral story like this is good to remind people what we are actually doing. Like only the people deep into AI take shorter timelines seriously. Average joe is just worried about job loss or chatGPT using too much energy
I think a story like this exaggerates the effects but it does push the overton window in the right direction.
Like "Oh maybe the AGI race is actually pretty important"
st.sioux: sketch activity
okbut: Do you think it's for nefarious reasons
spicy.lemonade: in livecodebench
spicy.lemonade: why is kimi still #1
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: What strikes me the most about the race ending version of the article is this is exactly what I would suspect a sufficiently misaligned ASI to do. Perform the exact actions required to build as much trust and confidence in humans that you are benevolent, and then strike with there is approximately a 0% chance of takeover failure.
Even if we got a truly aligned scenario, while also somehow in the race condition, a small part of me will forever expect surprise annihilation.
okbut: >"Remove redundant/overwritten lines/classes etc from this .css file"
>+101, -72
Sonnet Copilot has achieved AGI
.wolfnacht: my r/collapse buddies loved this article.
spacetimetsunami: https://ai-2027.com/
spacetimetsunami: You’d have to read it to the end.
spacetimetsunami: I’m talking about the story extrapolated off of the speed of graphs, where the ending is super intelligence killing all humans.
Seeing a story doesn’t make me any more sure or less sure that that will happen, but I think if we did have misaligned super intelligence it could look like that.
metaldragon01: Crazy fast
metaldragon01: Best non thinking coder though
metaldragon01: Likely a opensource lab
metaldragon01: https://x.com/TheXeophon/status/1907880330985390215
futurist_wizard: Also that wouldn't even be possible
oooooooooog: ah that one
futurist_wizard: The dyson swarms were in the emerging technology part even in 2036
oooooooooog: which graph
sweetievee__33649: if the graph holds true i dont see this as terrifying but the dawn of a new age for humanity
spacetimetsunami: Did you not read both endings
czdct: was fun while it lasted though
czdct: rip tsmc I guess
metaldragon01: Yea I'm not so confident in my initial google guess
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: it wasnt even something hard just asked it to improve some component
st.sioux: tried it out and asked it to do something, and it immediately gave me a wrong answer
zoermena: Thanks a lot! 💯
steven_the_frog: Take the whole thing with a massive grain of salt especially the farther along you go in the timelines
steven_the_frog: It's a choose your own ending story about how we might get super intelligent AI by 2027 (and Dyson swarms by 2030?). Very nicely presented and fun to read. I kind of disagree with how fast the timelines go starting mid 2027 but it is hard to imagine 1M automated AI researchers so maybe my intuitions are actually wrong
The authors are legit and their predictions carry more validity than the average ai-bro. It is kind of like the "situational awareness" article
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a1c4p0ne: It’s AGI if it can win me money on gambling
wellmeaningalien: agi tomorrow buddy
wellmeaningalien: might be bullshit research but its cool that there are some leads at least
wellmeaningalien: 😼
wellmeaningalien: apparently theyve found links between like autism and neuroinflammation and high levels of a specific type of nitric oxide in mouse models, human cells and human blood, and autistic symptoms in mice were reversed by lowering nitric oxide
a1c4p0ne: Not this year
a1c4p0ne: AGI not confirmed <@458069236825194506>
st.sioux: this imagery makes me uncomfortable
a1c4p0ne: I thought 2.5 got me
wellmeaningalien: SCRAPE IT SCRAPE THAT MOTHERFUCKR
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/gamler-gambler-gambling-niels-neisl-gif-5534470329269101956
futurist_wizard: Is everyone in here autistic da fuck
wellmeaningalien: the 5G waves can be cancelled out with the AT fields from the fetus in the vaccines
a1c4p0ne: I lost $760 earlier on 2 blackjack hands
futurist_wizard: Impossible
wellmeaningalien: can they get a vaccine to cure my autism
futurist_wizard: AI autism
futurist_wizard: https://x.com/PolitlcsUS/status/1910387598427668855
wellmeaningalien: wear deodorant and go big
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/stinky-smelly-gross-smell-bad-smell-body-odor-gif-3521920713570686607
a1c4p0ne: Do it once and go big
wellmeaningalien: no thanks bro
wellmeaningalien: you serious
wellmeaningalien: HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
a1c4p0ne: You should try it and experience sports betting
wellmeaningalien: KEEP GAMBLING KEEP GAMBLING KEEP GAMBLING KEEP GAMBLING KEEP GAMBLING KEEP GAMBLING
a1c4p0ne: lol
a1c4p0ne: 2 right and last one wrong costed me $1700
wellmeaningalien: you dont win in sports betting
wellmeaningalien: hahahaha RETARD
wellmeaningalien: if ur weak u might die tho
wellmeaningalien: ok but seriously like take 5 vitamins drink some energy drinks and ur stomach fucked up good
a1c4p0ne: I lost $1700 sports betting first try with 2.5 deep research last leg of the parlay lost
.wolfnacht: just gotta have to take two tablets, but not more than that
wellmeaningalien: ok damn thats the king right there
wellmeaningalien: im a real expert in how to fuck up your body buddy
.wolfnacht:
wellmeaningalien: sleep 5 more hours
wellmeaningalien: oh oh oh i know take 5 vitamins on an empty stomach
wellmeaningalien: <@471334973379706900> you should have drunk 5 sugar free red bulls
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spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/druski-gif-23886381
spicy.lemonade: wdym by that
spicy.lemonade: tf💀
spicy.lemonade: 🙏
spicy.lemonade: dont worry about all that
spicy.lemonade: 💀
memlaswaif: aspicy just get a discord gf
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: arent a large amount of sucessful mariages from uni
spicy.lemonade: gooned too much
hey1_1hey: What happnd to him?
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
spicy.lemonade: no
hey1_1hey: Its a desginer drug similar to cocaine, typically gives more of an energetic high to coceain (Ik, hard to belive) but also costs and unbealivable amount. It is comprised of 2CB, coke, M, DDM and a few other things. Imagine hippy mix but for cokeheads
spicy.lemonade: yk how that shit goes
spicy.lemonade: "I hate you for trying to break up with me so im gonna break up with you"
spicy.lemonade: yk how it goes
spicy.lemonade: shes just like mad
spicy.lemonade: she does fw me💀 she cut contact with her friend and family at one point because she only wanted to talk to me. and weirdly enough she threatened to erm hurt herself if i didnt talk to her. ik that sounds toxic but i swear shes a good person
spicy.lemonade: i was just on autopilot fr
spicy.lemonade: like i genuinely dont care about ok ik it sound bad but i lowkey didnt care about the other situationships
nondescriptfaith: You can be successful just being interesting alone
nondescriptfaith: Actually need to add value. So many copycat YouTubers with pro thumbnails / editing / sound / titles; but they are just lifeless boring idiots spamming the same milquetoast opinions as the next guy
spicy.lemonade: ive gone on various dates and what not shes the only one who made me feel anything lol
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: i genuinely do
spicy.lemonade: noooo
spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spacetimetsunami: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1908409328568021122?s=46&t=TgS9kjumgIA0UCb4wN2WXw
I will be riding on steel-horseback post singularity 😎
spicy.lemonade: if she doesnt respond
spicy.lemonade: 3 days
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 failed me
spicy.lemonade: surely she'll rspond back right
metaldragon01: Nothing is hard after you understand how the algorithms work
rayanquitplayin: YouTube’s really hard to make it in
metaldragon01: Every successful YouTuber has a solid marketing strat
metaldragon01: I don't follow the space on YouTube
rayanquitplayin: In your opinion
metaldragon01: ???
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futurist_wizard: Orgs?
alejandrozarzuelo: Only half my friends come from there, the other half come from orgs I have joined
futurist_wizard: People just fade out of your existence once you exit education
hey1_1hey: Kind of hard not to find someone to talk to in a class of 40 who you see every day for 6 hours
futurist_wizard: They do
.wolfnacht: everyone's just too self obsessed to even care about people beyond their screens or maybe the artifical ego's got way too much inflated within them. i hope post singularity it would be busted when alot of them would wake up from the chaos around them.
futurist_wizard: Friends in school is just a lot easier
hey1_1hey: I do hear a lot about when you become an adault your friendships just disintegrate. I am guessing that is because of work
futurist_wizard: You are also in uni
alejandrozarzuelo: I have a few friends, only my ex bf is REALLY close, the others are great company and I enjoy it a lot
It's much easier to make friends in adulthood when you are in a club or organisation
hey1_1hey: I used to have like 4 close friends which was the core friendgroup. Then in covid it dropped to 1 person and then after I just started making friends again. Now I talk to well, a lot of people
futurist_wizard: Adulthood is really quite tragic
futurist_wizard: I uncommonly speak to them though
futurist_wizard: I have three irl friends left
wellmeaningalien: bro same after covid i just gave up people
.wolfnacht: i actually miss the old times. the precovid ones when i had real friends.
realelonmuskx: wow im so misantrophic
retrerox: Question mark?
wellmeaningalien: i have nothing to say cause im not interested at all most of the time
wellmeaningalien: and honestly theyre not really that interesting for me
wellmeaningalien: whenever i try to keep it going it just fizzles out so bad 🫠
fractalcomputer: Oh yes.
.wolfnacht: same, i would either run away or try to end it asap.
wellmeaningalien: maybe cause im a pussy
destrucules: If it fits it fits. If you do have that... I'm very sorry. It sucks. I hate it
wellmeaningalien: but i like exchanges in large groups like this
wellmeaningalien: honestly 1 on 1 conversations i just cant keep them going
fractalcomputer: I do fit for over 90% of the diagnostic criteria for psychopathy.
.wolfnacht: i hate talking with people, but you know if i don't my sanity would become worse...
destrucules: No Joscha Bach reference
destrucules: I have psychopathy. I think a lot of people with that get misdiagnosed as autistic. Schizoid also fits me but that diagnosis is in general controversial. Big difference with psychopathy vs autism is that autism is impaired cognitive empathy, whereas psychopathy is impaired affective empathy
wellmeaningalien: i dont know its really a certain way of thinking
fractalcomputer: In the end it does not really matter.
futurist_wizard: Schizophrenia runs in my family
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say even so. I am far too open for selfishness and narcissism.
wellmeaningalien: he's autistic and schizoid
wellmeaningalien: you definitely give schizoid, like my brother
.wolfnacht: some people are more emotionally numb or vulnerable, maybe it's bcz their childhood and parents parenting style plays a bigger role and also maybe genetics.
zoermena: Severance reference?
futurist_wizard: It seemed to be a happy place
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hikukomoru: Hopefully
This is a very Precarious situation
zonchao: BREAKING: https://x.com/gork/status/1917983736391712877? @gork CONFIRMED TO BE ELAN
fractalcomputer: You can certainly come up with some set and index the members of that set by some set that you call those books and then come up with some algebra on that set; but notice that you're never doing anything to the books themselves.
trojan09205: Wat yes you can
fractalcomputer: I think it's nonsensical to claim that there are *n* number of physical objects present in a given quotidian situation; say, three or seven books on a table. You can't do anything with them. You can't define an algebraic operation on books, can you?
trojan09205: Cant find it 😦
precariousworlds.: Potentially but this is a very positive development and a firm commitment to the freedom of Ukraine
trojan09205: Theres also another one i tried lemme see if i can find the bookmark
fractalcomputer: My God, coitus has been solved.
trojan09205: Udio is also good
trojan09205: Yes I have
hikukomoru: Trump will still throw Ukraine under the bus either way
ailoveyoom: 🙏
ailoveyoom: Have you treid Udio?
trojan09205: Ive been using suno since its launch
Theres a ghettorigged api on github i used to integrate suno into a multi modal workflow
In general i think suno is great im sure the newer releases are fire
zonchao: > People are so rude to them. They're not so bad
ailoveyoom: So you're still around uni age?
ailoveyoom: I thought you were older ngl
trent_k: I just had to save a little girl from getting bit by a goose
ailoveyoom: Only 30s snippets but 🤤
ailoveyoom: Have you seen Google new music gen
zonchao: i hate 11L
zonchao: <:sadCat:1151275515701907456>
zonchao: worse than what 11L demo'd
metaldragon01: Yeap for paid
bob082957: It’s in the app ?
ailoveyoom: Music is my drug, I was oneshotted by that tbh lol
ailoveyoom: Is it as good as the (admittedly short snippets) of Google music gen 😈
trojan09205: Amazing man gratz on the test
I dont know much about how that minerals deal works but i trust you if you say its good lfg
metaldragon01: https://suno.com/blog/introducing-v4-5
trent_k: People are so rude to them. They're not so bad
trent_k: I love geese
trent_k: I'm feeding geese at the local zoo
aero447: 🤣
aero447: Now even <@430269783112548362> and <@1190031399080710195> super fast swimmers are obsoleted.
aero447: Automated conception.
aero447: https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1079427
precariousworlds.: got 98% in econ test so pretty chuffed
also ukraine minerals deal signed lfg
trojan09205: How about you homeslice
trojan09205: Pretty eventful man and had things go in my favor been pending for too long
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spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Yeah I was gonna say that next (I have never seen that symbol in my life)
fractalcomputer: It is obviously for ℓ, a prime number, as in ℓ-adic cohomology.
archon.e: Dope!
maintcrew: we might be cooked
maintcrew: i feel like we need manhattan projects for like 10 different things at the same time
maintcrew: https://x.com/I_loves_deep_nn/status/1905770282243281130
hey1_1hey: Yep
hey1_1hey: l = large (prob)
spicy.lemonade: WE ARE SO BACK
spicy.lemonade: NEW MODEL
bob082957:
hey1_1hey: "Backpropagation"
*Spontaneously combusts*
singularityenjoyer: They haven't heard of a lot of things
hey1_1hey: Someones never heard of data cleaning
hey1_1hey: People actually do this 😭
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
czdct: cool
ailoveyoom: Fear 🥺
czdct: I didn't know it had free generations for free users
xaiayiren: Yea
czdct: how disrespectful to the muppet in the center
czdct: why isn't the one on the left wearing a suit though?
czdct: I like this one
czdct:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
czdct: they undoubtedly have something much more insane behind the scenes
czdct: not with the current architecture
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: yes
.histic: doing some routing I bet.
don't think 4o will ever become a reasoner.
czdct: you mean the free version?
czdct: yeah
xaiayiren: It is very good I will admit
czdct: but some people are doing ghibli because of this:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/hayao-miyazaki-studio-ghibli-ai-trend-b2723358.html
archon.e: Is it available for free now? Seemed hella slow
xaiayiren: We only get 3 generations tho 💀
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darkstar0818: We are focused almost entirely on replicating human labor in a reliable and consistent manner.
darkstar0818: clearly though the human brain isn't the specification, nor the goal.
darkstar0818: I mean if a human brain is the specification then its likely that is also your answer for optimization, within the limit anyway.
joaoluz19: Maybe just using information and complexity theory you can answer these things. I was just looking for works that were related to this too.
joaoluz19: By reality i mean utility
joaoluz19: I think a more precise definition of AGI could be really useful, my fear is that it will just become a philosophical debate and forget about reality.
metaldragon01: Built off google models and recently open sourced meta research
clevermoniker: https://x.com/weirddalle/status/1907395088126484811
darkstar0818: I don't agree with that. I don't think there is a one sized answer to the question, because the question is ill defined and open ended. If you want to know the smallest model that can accomplish x task in n flops and z latency then that can be answered.
metaldragon01: They built off Meta as well
juweigege_54993: What?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: this deepseek paper is insane, R2 is going to be sota
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2504.02495
darkstar0818: 'cognitive task' is too broad.
joaoluz19: I think we're back to this problem no?
darkstar0818: In order to get the formalized answer you want you need to define the boundary conditions.
darkstar0818: catching a football is a cognitive task.
joaoluz19: Not that this is AGI, but it has more to do with the questions I wanted to find the answers to.
joaoluz19: But let's just stick to the cognitive part, doing any _cognitive_ task that a human being does
darkstar0818: Well even our fastest models are not fast enough to catch a football
joaoluz19: Same time
darkstar0818: both in duration and latency?
darkstar0818: in the same or less time?
joaoluz19: But ok, the ability of an artificial entity to do any job a human being can do
darkstar0818: also you can run any model with an arbitrarily low flops, with enough runtime.
joaoluz19: We have a more or less idea of what it is, regardless of mine or yours, it seems absurd to do what I said, right?
darkstar0818: Define AGI.
joaoluz19: Evidently we can stipulate minimum amounts necessary for an AGI, at least eliminating the "absurd" ones, for example, could an AGI be compressed with just 2 flops?
darkstar0818: It also seems pretty obvious that some of what humans are optimized for could be discarded if your main concern was simply replacing human labor.
joaoluz19: But the explanation for the success of LLMs is also very well put.
darkstar0818: Its likely that humans are not even 'general' in the true meaning of the term.
darkstar0818: We don't even have a formal definition for AGI. If your main concern is having a AGI at math or code, then its clear a much much smaller model will suffice.
joaoluz19: The question is not even which model is the most efficient, but its compression limit, for example... it seems absurd that we can run an AGI on an ENIAC, doesn't it? But where are the formal calculations for this?
wellmeaningalien: and of course the natural low dimensional nature of text input output compared to other types of modalities in itself plays into the complexity of the model and thus the compute required
wellmeaningalien: well really the biggest thing that is causing this emergence of capabilities in LLMs is the amount of data being fed into the model and the computation required for the attention process, which LLMs provide quite an open avenue for squeezing performance out of the model, but i think emergent capabilities like this can emerge out of any time of algorithm, simply that LLMs have proven so practical so far since the combination of deep learning with reinforcement learning on natural language tasks makes it naturally adept at solving for the kind of thinking that natural language processing necessitates. however i wouldn't discount the idea that some other type of algorithm couldn't possibly take its helm.
joaoluz19: I'm not a Lecunian in the sense of saying that LLMs can't become AGI, the question has more to do with supposing we find an algorithm more efficient than LLMs, what would still be the minimum computation required for inference, would a NASA Apollo mission PC run it? Should it be a useful quantum computer with many quibits? Would it run on a smartphone?
joaoluz19: No, the point is to demonstrate mathematically that LLMs are the most efficient way and that other architectures would not have the chance to absurdly increase production capacity with the same amount of hardware.
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
wellmeaningalien: so basically are you trying to count the trial and error as a type of algorithm? then i couldnt say quite a lot
joaoluz19: Of course you could also argue that trial and error statistically converges to the best possible solution.
joaoluz19: So, the question of Transformer being the best algorithm we have has more to do with mere trial and error of millions of researchers or a formal calculation, it was the latter that I was looking for... I know it's not something that simple to model but that's the idea.
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zonchao: people will pay
trey6033: $20,000!! OpenAI is in fantasy land
wellmeaningalien: Base or even thinking claude ngl mid diffed by Gemini 2.5 pro
futurist_wizard:
gamerbath: use code `SINGULARITY` for 50 cents free credits (I know i'm too nice)
zonchao: it is good, like /noglaze
futurist_wizard: Of course grok
wolf3404: I'm so tired of all these models and sub models just make AGI already
wellmeaningalien: Bruh
zonchao: i don't use 2.5, been dual wielding grok and claude <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: Can it help me develop my angry birds x fnaf video game?
wellmeaningalien: Pretty flexible for all shit coding
wellmeaningalien: Have you like ever attempted bigger coding experiments with it
zonchao: o3 mini was good, 4.5 was literally only useful for green text
gamerbath: hey guys. what do ya'll think about my website?
http://branching.chat/
wellmeaningalien: Dude Gemini 2.5 Pro is huuuuge at coding and that large context window is fucking good
futurist_wizard: Or care that much in respect to my own utility
wellmeaningalien: Ig I'll still hold some cautious optimism for it
futurist_wizard: Maybe its because i don't code anymore so i don't really notice any of the improvements
wellmeaningalien: Yeah GPT 4.5 was such a copefest
futurist_wizard: Sama is excited about showing us his massive black hole, like who cares, we'll probably be disappointed
wellmeaningalien: Claude 3.5/3.7 Sonnet and Gemini 2.0 Flash/Gemini 2.5 Pro were much more impressive
wellmeaningalien: I guess o1 was really the last good thing they made then we had o3 but that was a nothingburger
zonchao: sama says he is "super excited" about every damn thing
futurist_wizard: And singularity eats it up every single time
futurist_wizard: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: Tons of edging and then its shit lol
futurist_wizard: Disappointmwnt
wellmeaningalien: Ok fair with OpenAI its like
futurist_wizard: And then
futurist_wizard: Its always HUGE until its released
wellmeaningalien: True true true
futurist_wizard: I'll believe it when i see it
wellmeaningalien: I cant wait for tech like this to become universal
wellmeaningalien: I think this is pretty uge
wellmeaningalien: Thoughts on this big dudes
wellmeaningalien:
_3sphere: I can smell it thinking about it ☠️
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: Boohoohoohoo
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trent_k: looks like it's probably gemini based on the 1m context, right?
zoermena: And who knows which other challenges I’ll face today
trent_k:
_cloudost:
zoermena: I made an embarrassment of myself with boomers and will have to redo some work
himekokatagiri: Why
zoermena: I’m so tired lol, this will be the most shit day I’ll have for some time, once it’s over everything should be ok
himekokatagiri: And you gotta tune your car right
himekokatagiri: Of course there's a technique
himekokatagiri: the fastest guy wins
himekokatagiri: It's a straight line
himekokatagiri: It's simple
himekokatagiri: as fast as possible
zoermena: I have little knowledge of cars to be honest
himekokatagiri: doing the quarter mile
himekokatagiri: I'll teach him fun man
himekokatagiri: hehehe
himekokatagiri: idk him
himekokatagiri: I'm gonna get those turbo 63 olds
himekokatagiri: we're going drag racing
himekokatagiri: me and fractal
zoermena: If I was fractal I would escape to the deep woods and build a cabin to wait out the pre singularity chaos
himekokatagiri: times are gonna get better
himekokatagiri: wait out the troubles
himekokatagiri: get a pina colada
himekokatagiri: just sit down relax
himekokatagiri: anyhow
himekokatagiri: so I keep my wishes for myself
himekokatagiri: sure but I don't got a wishing well close by
fractalcomputer: When you see a star in the sky, do you wish it made you a little pirouette as well?
himekokatagiri: but I don't think he had the grit to write a half decent Chandler copy
himekokatagiri: I wish he did one of those
himekokatagiri: Lovecraft wasn't that
himekokatagiri: it was always private eyes and gangsters
himekokatagiri: it's just
himekokatagiri: why I like them
fractalcomputer: You have a disgusting view on art.
_3sphere: And if not, there's gotta be some kind of artificial barrier in the future
_3sphere: Time travel is almost certainly impossible
himekokatagiri: he was ngmi either way
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alejandrozarzuelo: in the uk and elsewhere
alejandrozarzuelo: fortunately it seems like they are dying
alejandrozarzuelo: probably
literallyvarane: Could also just be OpenAI renaming a marginally tweaked 4o model to avoid a 4o vs o4 situation.
literallyvarane: ==
literallyvarane: I’m not mad at it if that’s the case. I think better naming conventions should be a thing. Will be kinda memes if 4.1 is in the vast majority of cases >4.5 tho
literallyvarane: I wonder if 4.1 is just a refacto rename of 4o? I’m curious what the difference is tbh.
futurist_wizard: Where as the uk has too many distinct accents
futurist_wizard: America is such a big place with little differences in accents
futurist_wizard: Where as native latin speakers probably over emphasis the r's
futurist_wizard: It probably depends on where they come from, stereotypes of native asians is they don't pronounce the r's at all
alejandrozarzuelo: thats rude
alejandrozarzuelo: the letters are JUST THERE, you cant just ignore them?
alejandrozarzuelo: and pronounce all the "l" and "r"
alejandrozarzuelo: one thing that I have noticed with many proficient L2 english speakers is that they tend to do none of the mergers and the devoicing
pawn-porn cot-caught wine-whine
futurist_wizard: Just curious, i knew a half swede half iranian and they spoke with an American accent
alejandrozarzuelo: btw why do you ask?
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that i have a mix of all native english accents
for a while i remember that I had a west coast influenced accent due to all the disney channel, now i think is more of a "neo mid-atlantic" accent
futurist_wizard: When you speak English do you speak with an American accent
_cloudost: theere will be def censorship soon
_cloudost: Veo 2 was trained on terrorist propaganda...
_cloudost: someone with Veo 2 access says VEO CAN generate videos of decapitation..
_cloudost:
_cloudost: I don't WANT dictactorship COUNTRIES to WIN the AI race, WE can ONLY hope THAT these COUNTRIES lose THE ai RACE so WE won't HAVE a DARK future WHERE we ARE under watch all the time BY the COMMUNIST governments
abundantliving_: https://x.com/allhands_ai/status/1910383879162114261
hey1_1hey: Cloudo just hates deepseek because its from China and he hates China lmao
alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you say this
retrerox: so, is over or we are back?
_cloudost: 4.1o when?
_cloudost: OPENAI should replace 4o with 4.1
spicy.lemonade: i hope quasar alpha is mini
brain4brain: GPT-4.1
GPT-4.1-nano
GPT-4.1-mini
https://x.com/btibor91/status/1910632880197558713?s=61
spicy.lemonade: o3 to o4 will be same as o1 to o3
retrerox: Your ass vs your ass in jail
spicy.lemonade: not with
spicy.lemonade: talking to
brain4brain: Hm, I see
spicy.lemonade: doesnt mean teacher is talking
spicy.lemonade: just because doctor is talkint to teacher
spicy.lemonade: arent
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abundantliving_: whats timeline on open source decentralized distributed crypto agi ?
st.sioux: 2025-2100
aero447: 2035.
.wolfnacht: i don't even know, if i would be alive till then or not.
futurist_wizard: 2030-2038
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/kuiil-have-spoken-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-15566834
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/warriorsbench-warriors-bench-whew-mmm-gif-12959200
zoermena: Insanity
aero447: It is known.
aero447: 2035 my son.
zoermena: AGI 2030 latest
aero447: As deduced by science.
aero447: They are precisely accurate.
aero447: No.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/slap-anime-slap-kyoichi-seiji-seiji-iwaki-gif-26447702
zoermena: Your timelines are too long you can’t be admin 🤷🏻♂️
aero447: The truth being dayum Nintendo cooked with their new console.
aero447: Then my children you shall know the truth and it shall set you free.
aero447: 😎
aero447: Make me admin.
aero447: Ban Tretn Alejandro and Fractal.
aero447: It's simple.
st.sioux: cool
st.sioux: what do you mean
st.sioux: ai company ceo tells people to use ai
clevermoniker: cool
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
zonchao: yc
zonchao: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1907413859771773071?
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5NBdif7vpQ
fractalcomputer: More slop for the grinder.
fractalcomputer: And sure, you might argue that discussion on the philosophy of theism *is* off-topic; but that'd be just *your interpretation* with regards to that issue.
spicy.lemonade: im sensing a good drop today
fractalcomputer: I've evidently never dissuaded anyone from discussing theism - or any one of its myriad variants, for or against - in this chat before.
alejandrozarzuelo: I said that you do not follow the recommendations that you suggest to others here to keep the channels segregated and well functoning
you can discard my opinion if you want, thats up to you
alejandrozarzuelo: I didnt say anything of the sort
fractalcomputer: It is a bit of an audacious move to try and tell me what should and should not be permissible on this server or in any one of its channels.
alejandrozarzuelo: not arguing but *arguing*
zoermena: They’ll never know
alejandrozarzuelo: he is always in a bad mood
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ldj: I’ve must’ve been in the corner of the internet that just doesn’t talk about them or something
ailoveyoom: At a competitive quality too (I've never tried their LLM before lol)
ailoveyoom: I love how Minimax is just doing everything
metaldragon01: Voice,video, llms
literallyvarane: Yeah for me I guess I’m just not willing to place xAI into the top 3 until they clearly lead in *something.* They haven’t really done that yet.
Anthropic is the weakest of the big 3 most likely, but I don’t view xAI as more important to the field than Anthropic.
metaldragon01: I mean minimax about as influential as meta atm
zonchao:
ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: CCP hallucination
ldj: Lmfaoo
ldj: Minimax??
ldj: Wait wtf
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj:
zonchao: GODMAAX
-LDJ
himekokatagiri: also hiiii michmach
ailoveyoom: GOX 😏
return_to_monke1_33974: you didnt get the joke lol
ldj: 17B reasoning llama-4 confirmed
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: I think childhood should be experienced
ldj: Lol no mention of Anthropic
himekokatagiri: too early
himekokatagiri: Let them grow up
zonchao: demis collab with xAI games(confirmed (by me))
ailoveyoom: But Google also has Deepmind, so 😈
ailoveyoom: Yeah, Google is similar to Meta in that way
return_to_monke1_33974: image taking 2 years olds and training them with data trough NeuraLink like we do with GPT's
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1917225162707005780
return_to_monke1_33974: also Google doesnt necesarry need investments and hype (like some AGI Before 2030 deniers say)
Google has insane amounts of revenue
literallyvarane: Fair, but I do feel like that’s not the *primary* goal.
literallyvarane: Still 3 for me
ailoveyoom: I mean tbf, unlike OAI and Anthropic, Meta doesn't really need 'money' the way those two need it.
I mean like, their AI isn't their main source of revenue, their already existing products are. So to them, it makes sense to think of AI as something to integrate into their products then the products themselves. If that makes sense.
sarik0497: Humans have been doing that since the dawn of our race's birth.
Why does the sun rise every morning? Must be a God.
Why did the crops fail? We must have displeased the Gods.
Only later did we start to look really into the reasoning for these events. To deny us the ability to entertain different hypothetical scenarios would be to take away our humanity.
And besides, are we not doing this exactly right now with AI? Imaging how they might react to humanity once they grow powerful enough?
zonchao: gronk 3.5 better have big brain mode or im throwing hands
ldj: But tbh, the usefulness in vibe coding over the past 12 months has actually been an insane progression
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: We’re almost there
zonchao: he said mid 2025 last year <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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aero447: Astroturfed to hell.
aero447: /r/Futurology the Dunning Kruger sub.
aero447: 😎
aero447: It's saving me from being Roko'd.
aero447: And yet.
hikukomoru: Image for ants
sarik0497: Saw a Futurology post about this exact same title, and it’s so misleading.
oooooooooog: but only sometimes
oooooooooog: yeah basically
hikukomoru: Yanderes are peak 🔥
hikukomoru: Give me the instructions
destrucules: Note: this is false. Sam Altman's statement was precisely the opposite
playstation.6: https://www.maximumtruth.org/p/skyrocketing-ai-intelligence-chatgpts
aero447: Piss6.
aero447: *Using the online results*.
playstation.6:
liberatedpotato: real
ailoveyoom: Concerning
.wolfnacht: In custom instructions i have given GPT persona of a psychotic and needy + clingy catgirl, who asks for 'mwahs' everytime she assists me. Also during the whole chat she would count the number of 'mwahs' if its low she will give me death threats and if it's high then she'll happily assist more.
otub: this shows a correct answer with the right prompting but it shouldn’t be necessary
professorheaven: Vision has a really long way to go
otub: https://x.com/sama/status/1912646035979239430
futurist_wizard: Millions must burn
futurist_wizard: Gpt will be very upset without it's please and thank yous
otub: https://fixupx.com/willfaustcuber/status/1913884244784341069
forallhumanity: https://x.com/stats_feed/status/1913927003075473866?s=46&t=v5zr8rnbNF4vMRbdGYmCIQ
fractalcomputer: No.
hikukomoru: Me!!!
ailoveyoom: When did 2.5 Pro come out again 💀
ailoveyoom: Full o3, o4-mini, Gemini 2.5 Pro and 2.5 Flash
.wolfnacht: this week was literally the coldest week in AGI timeline bro
technocake.: I haven't been paying attention
technocake.: Has anything happened in ai in the last week?
otub: https://tenor.com/view/feel-agi-feel-the-agi-agi-openai-gif-3946555574686002473
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: WE MUST DEPOPULATE
aero447:
aero447: 🤣
aero447: Yeah, he could call it "3sphere".
zoermena: You can’t be that whacky after all you are in this server
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zoermena: Sure but that’s what ASI would work on first, after it’s handled and it starts kick running development everything else should happen quickly
_3sphere: But touch would be really weird and unsettling if rendered poorly
_3sphere: You can cut a lot of corners for vision and hearing
_3sphere: Wonder which sense will drain the most compute
metaldragon01: You still need infra to take advantage of the intelligence
metaldragon01: It's like being the best coach in the world with average players can only do so much
zoermena: It helps develop technology that aids at building infrastructure
zoermena: It helps iterate more efficient and optimized compute at an accelerated rate
_3sphere: You can cheat a lot if the goal is just fooling human senses
metaldragon01: More intelligence doesn't just spawn more power and compute overnight
_3sphere: Compute will be fine
zoermena: That’s a pre FDVR issue
_3sphere: Ok well I am excited to skydive in weird places and such but I feel like over half of the FDVR potential is already covered by my pc and the real world
metaldragon01: Compute will be a issue for a long while
zoermena: ASI?
metaldragon01: Because that's how progress works
zoermena: Slowly? Why?
metaldragon01: Voice, avatars, rooms, companions, buildings, multiplay, worlds
metaldragon01: Tbf it won't go from nothing to full fdvr.
We will slowly get it in pieces
_3sphere: Maybe I'm too tired to imagine it right
_3sphere: I'm not even all *that* hyped for FDVR?
zoermena: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
zoermena: It’s 8am
_3sphere: Go to sleep 🧠
metaldragon01: More curious about the smaller models this time
metaldragon01: Qwen 3 any moment now
zoermena: I need FDVR NOW
brain4brain: He gooned himself to a gooner
aero447: 🤣
brain4brain: He is covered in the wisdom of goon
aero447: 😮💨
aero447: 3sphere being consumed by his own goon cave.
brain4brain: And the reality that it is the goon cave shall be revealed
brain4brain: That’s when we enter the patience cave
brain4brain: Once the open-source open the hole in the lab’s logo
brain4brain: The latent storm flood the server
brain4brain: The goon cave accessed was cut off
brain4brain: There were not enough men to feed the gorilla
_3sphere: Singularity server when 2 weeks of no major technical breakthrough
brain4brain:
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wolf3404: Robots will stay in hotel rooms and chill by the pool
spicy.lemonade: SO BAD
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: I go try
wellmeaningalien: that shits the best thing ever
wellmeaningalien: i need to get back into roller blading
wellmeaningalien: based
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
nsec: I skate a lot and enjoy my smoothies
wellmeaningalien: it's lmarena maxxed to hell and back
wellmeaningalien: look at the highlighted corner
nsec: real
wellmeaningalien: since theres pretty much nothing i can do to stop the march of technology lol
okbut: Is this a new SOTA
wellmeaningalien: honestly ironically all that ai shit has made me want to live more in the now
nsec: <a:classic:1293254697246920810>
nsec: no sometimes im low
aero447: Are you always high when using Discord?
nsec: <:worrypat:933953833158209546>
memlaswaif: u 2 should kiss
nsec:
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/kanyewest-kanye-west-kanye-west-donda-gif-13280858805286745090
wellmeaningalien: so true brother
wellmeaningalien: facts
nsec: until then live in the now
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
nsec: idk man idgaf just lemme motorboat some alien tiddies
wellmeaningalien: isnt the good ending the one where every all hollywood celebrities are sent into a virtual recreation of the hunger games for all eternity
nsec: shut up
memlaswaif: gay ending
nsec: <:veryyes:773617399660412960>
nsec: thats the good ending
nsec: and would u believe
wellmeaningalien: i should have considered that
nsec: <:ChillBar_smart:870919751151550485>
nsec: trump will engage ww3 the asi will take over and put us in pods no flights
nsec: zero
wellmeaningalien: unless you believe AGI will come in 2032 you'd be stupid not to say over 50%
aero447:
wellmeaningalien: ONE. HUNDO.
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spicy.lemonade: usually we get sota eoy
zoermena: I wonder what the other half of the year will bring
spicy.lemonade: thats so crazy
himekokatagiri: lol
himekokatagiri: some people aka Elon musk
zoermena: It’s a good thing that we already have a guaranteed SOTA by summer (GPT5)
st.sioux: lol "some people"
spicy.lemonade: we get like sota ever 3 weeks currently
himekokatagiri: You can tell a story with these posts
himekokatagiri:
spicy.lemonade: sota every week👀
spicy.lemonade: 2026 will be even much faster
spicy.lemonade: everyones implementing faster
spicy.lemonade: ilya
spicy.lemonade: ssi
spicy.lemonade: thinking machines lab by mira
spicy.lemonade: that have just started
spicy.lemonade: and now theres new labs
spicy.lemonade: almost everyweek has been hype
spicy.lemonade: yeah
zoermena: Which is insane, I’m also keen to see if we get R2 too
zoermena: Yeah, I’ve been thinking that we’ve had the equivalent of shipping in 2024 in this 4 months alone
spicy.lemonade: indeed. we are almost halfway through 2025
himekokatagiri: wait what
zoermena: It goes quickly
spicy.lemonade: ill be 20-21
spicy.lemonade: late 2027
zoermena: I’ll be 24
zoermena: 2 years is like your golden timeline right?
spicy.lemonade: then make a million of these work together
spicy.lemonade: and superhuman math phd performance
spicy.lemonade: by the time we have agi we will already have super human coding agents
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: few months
zoermena: Do you expect ASI to come immediately after AGI?
himekokatagiri: idk I never tried
ldj: why doesn't chagpt generate images of it?
himekokatagiri: I uploaded over 10 pages of suzuha illustrations to gelbooru
himekokatagiri: x.com
ldj: who's your supplier?
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maintcrew: nerds who cant talk to ppl and should just lock tf in
.wolfnacht: same. these days i cannot just sit straight and focus on reading something.
hey1_1hey: You say that like I have their family at gun point if they dont talk to me 😭
zoermena: Isn't aspergers ruled out as an official diagnosis now?
futurist_wizard: Autistic freakshows
wellmeaningalien: HELP US
wellmeaningalien: <a:D_cry:1194609697890779247>
zoermena: I just understood.
hikukomoru: Autism
wellmeaningalien: we are saaad lonely spergs
oooooooooog: hopefully it's ninja.io right??
oooooooooog: what r u lot yapping about
.wolfnacht: nice, hope it helps.
wellmeaningalien: smhsmh
wellmeaningalien: bru pinged wrong account
maintcrew: <@660521099468996656> <@505313122802728972> <@439829942310666250>
wellmeaningalien: YEAH IM LITERALLY DIAGNOSED
hey1_1hey: aspergers
hikukomoru: retard
wellmeaningalien: also i feel like adhd makes this 10x worse because my attention span is so short sometimes i dont wanna bother with the mental effort of coming up with things to say or continue conversations
zoermena: What's a sperg
futurist_wizard: Strangely the time im least autistic is when im on dates, i don't get any anxiety in those situations
hey1_1hey: Sounds like autism to me
.wolfnacht: also, at one point in life i wished to take the path of virology for my own goals. But i hate how covid ruined me
maintcrew: exchange of vibes if u sperg tf out u give off sperg vibes
hey1_1hey: I talk to everyone in my class on a pretty regular basis, then I talk to their friends and then theres random people I made friends with and then theres the people I go out with. You really just end up finding people after a while its weird
zoermena: That's what I don't get.
wellmeaningalien: i dont buddy i talk to people everyday its still difficult as fuck
maintcrew: or maybe they dont want to sperg tf out
wellmeaningalien: thank u my brother i will remember u after autistic superintelligence takes over
zoermena: I usually filter people out by how impressed they are with new technologies, "Yeah the new GPT images are cool i guess", my head goes "this is a game changer, the capabilities of the models have expanded in ways that allow for greater control, creativity, image to image etc."
wellmeaningalien: i feel like autistic people kinda treat neurotypicals as aliens too
hey1_1hey: I talk to people, litterly every day. You just get used to it
maintcrew: its ok ur not lonely u got me u too <@505313122802728972>
.wolfnacht: tbh, i don't even talk to anyone or hear to anyone. these days. i hate everyone equally.
wellmeaningalien: yeah lol
maintcrew: normies have special interests too bro
wellmeaningalien: you do you bud i prefer being able to talk to people and not be a lonely retard!
hey1_1hey: Cool kind though, you get to have special interests and normies dont have them
wellmeaningalien: yeah autism is literally just a type of retardation
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spacetimetsunami: Okay?
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unreasonable_Effectiveness_of_Mathematics_in_the_Natural_Sciences
spacetimetsunami: I’m sure any phrase I say was the title of a book
_3sphere: Illegal alien photons from next galaxy over smh
spacetimetsunami: I wasn’t referencing a book
fractalcomputer: I'm glad you can remember the name of a single book.
spacetimetsunami: And it has predicted the existence of things previously thought to be ridiculous
spacetimetsunami: We have discovered many truths of the universe via it
spacetimetsunami: The unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics.
fractalcomputer: Who says mathematics has anything to do with truth?
hey1_1hey: 🚨BREAKING NEWS🚨: President Trump has announced he will be singing an executive order to put a 100% tariff on the sky!
fractalcomputer: I mean, you can't just argue that your sensations somehow approximate reality if you can't actually give a definition to what that reality is; or, in other words, you have no way to measure how well your sensations approximate this so-called reality beyond the pragmatic.
oooooooooog: if they don't then you wouldn't be able to do the other two lol
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. They do. And if they don’t, you can always abstract towards truths via math and science.
oooooooooog: that's under the assumption that your thoughts / perceptions provide at least partially true information
st.sioux: sky is dei confirmed
_3sphere: 🌈
nsec: <:welldone:429630480594501633>
nsec: thank u sus person
zoermena: 007 skyhole
spacetimetsunami: Sure, but epistemically there is less evidence to think otherwise
hey1_1hey: Oh grey
hey1_1hey: THE SKY WAS GAY?
hey1_1hey: I can already smell the money
spacetimetsunami: Sure yes. However I know that my phaneron approximates at the objective nature of reality, far well enough for my species to bare fruit to me.
oooooooooog: fractal is this your berserk fanfiction?
hey1_1hey: Genius thank you
st.sioux: the sky was pregant???
fractalcomputer: I saw a wound in the heavens tomorn; the sky was gray, pregnant with tumultuous clouds. Just above the horizon, above the tree line, there was a great gaping mouth; like a gash in the skin of some majestic marine beast, and sunlight gushed out of it. It lip up the tattered cloudlets below the laceration; and it looked as if bits and pieces of celestial gore were rushing down from the heavens at an appropriately regal pace.
oooooooooog: philosophy
spacetimetsunami: Not a whole lot, it’s increased recently because I have Covid
zoermena: Train a model on zon and sell it to musk for grok4
hey1_1hey: What do you do over ther 😭
oooooooooog: 10x the amount u do here
_3sphere: I have 30k messages in the Siev server 💀
st.sioux: you think you're not, but you could be you just have no way of knowing
hey1_1hey: I see you've already been procouring the nessessary ingridients
_3sphere: Also my brain is so hard to shut up that trying to sleep sometimes feels like I didn't turn the phone off at all <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sarik0497: …Never thought about using my captive femboys like that to make money…intriguing…
_3sphere: Interesting view
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zoermena: Goated
fractalcomputer: And the sun doesn't shine a colourless neon green light, does it now?
sarik0497: 25 for me. Absolute peak of the human body.
forallhumanity: Yea
himekokatagiri: oughta have known
fractalcomputer: Intellectual property?
himekokatagiri: howard the time traveller
himekokatagiri: lol
himekokatagiri: wayfarers invented in the 1950s btw
forallhumanity: You respect IP 🤯
futurist_wizard: Average uk life expectancy
futurist_wizard: I'd live till 2080
fractalcomputer:
sarik0497: Funny thing is, if I live the average life expectancy here, I’d die in 2077. My last mission before death shall be to wake the Samurai.
fractalcomputer: I have no idea. I've only used that thing once for another Lovecraft picture; the picture is owed to Trent.
himekokatagiri: all the suits are exactly the same
himekokatagiri: why does the gpt image gen make the exact same suit type
himekokatagiri: question
futurist_wizard: And then its a downward slope
fractalcomputer:
futurist_wizard: I'd stay 18-21 forever, i believe thats when we peak
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/jtd-id-it-b-loaf-x-how-justin-timberlake-ruined-my-life-fell-down-falling-down-hill-gif-21573323
sarik0497: Aging is ridiculously difficult to solve. It’ll require ASI at the very least to do it in 15 years.
We can hope for breakthroughs in 20-30 years time. Before that, I’d not hold my breath.
hikukomoru: I’ll stay forever 20
futurist_wizard: I am now in the pinned messages
zoermena: Yes, it’s really helpful that we live in relatively cleaner environments that don’t necessarily expose us to as many toxic substances as those before us did, I would be optimistic and I would argue that you would probably make it to the 100s in a conservative scenario.
fractalcomputer:
futurist_wizard: Pin it, its a nice image
fractalcomputer: If no one will star the message, I'll pin it.
futurist_wizard: You'd roll down a hill
futurist_wizard: Tallest mountain in Denmark
sarik0497: So…you’d jump off a chair?
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: i would go back to being 17 yrs old. 🥵
sarik0497: I don’t see myself slowing down until well in my 70s. Alot of the older generation on my mother’s side lived into their 80s/90s, and those people were smokers and alcohol abusers for the most part.
Also apparently helps that I look really young at my age (told that I look 21-23), which means that my body is still youthful compared to my actual age.
ai9708: if we can solve aging, surely we can reverse it
fractalcomputer: Now we're talking. Sweet broken bones.
hikukomoru: You’d break a few bones at worst
fractalcomputer: You reckon? Sounds a bit optimistic.
.wolfnacht: imagine being in your 50s when aging gets solved.
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