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ููŠ ุญุงู„ุฉ ุบุงู„ูŠู„ูŠูˆุŒ ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ู…ุดูƒู„ุชูŠู† ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูˆุฌู‡ ู…ู†ุธุงุฑู‡ ู†ุญูˆ ุฒุญู„.
In the case of Galileo, he had two problems when he turned his telescope to Saturn.
ุจุงุฏุฆ ุฐูŠ ุจุฏุกุŒ ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู†ุธุฑูŠุฉ ู„ุญู„ู‚ุงุช ุงู„ูƒูˆุงูƒุจ.
First of all, there was no theory of planetary rings.
ูˆุงู„ุซุงู†ูŠ ุจุนุฏ ูƒู„ ุดูŠุกุŒ ุจูŠุงู†ุงุชู‡ ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุดูˆุดุฉ ูˆุบุงู…ุถุฉุŒ ูˆู„ู… ูŠุชู…ูƒู† ุชู…ุงู…ุง ู…ู† ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ู…ุงูƒุงู† ูŠู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ูŠู‡.
Second of all, his data was grainy and fuzzy, and he couldn't quite make out what he was looking at.
ู„ุฐุง ูุงู†ู‡ ูƒุชุจ ุงู†ู‡ ุฑุฃู‰ -- "ู„ู‚ุฏ ู„ุงุญุธุช ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ูƒูˆูƒุจ ุงู„ุฃุจุนุฏ ูŠู…ุชู„ูƒ ุซู„ุงุซุฉ ุงุฌุฑุงู…".
So he wrote that he had seen -- "I have observed that the furthest planet has three bodies."
ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ู…ุง ุงู†ุชู‡ู‰ ุจู‡ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ู„ูŠู„ุฎุต ู…ุง ู‚ุฏ ุฑุฃู‰.
And this is what he ended up concluding that he saw.
ู„ุฐุง ุจุฏูˆู† ู†ุธุฑูŠุฉ ุญู„ู‚ุงุช ุงู„ูƒูˆุงูƒุจ ูˆู…ุน ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ู…ุดูˆุดุฉุŒ ู„ุงูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู† ุชู…ุชู„ูƒ ู†ุธุฑูŠุฉ ุฌูŠุฏุฉ.
So without a theory of planetary rings and with only grainy data, you can't have a good theory.
ูˆู„ู… ุชุญู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุนุถู„ุฉ ุญุชู‰ ุนุงู… 1655.
It wasn't solved until 1655.
ู‡ุฐุง ูƒุชุงุจ ูƒุฑูŠุณุชูŠุงู† ู‡ูˆูŠุฌู†ุฒ ูˆุงู„ุฐูŠ ุจูŽูˆูŽุจ ููŠู‡ ูƒู„ ุงุฎุทุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุฉ ู„ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ู…ุง ูƒุงู† ูŠุญุฏุซ ู…ุน ูƒูˆูƒุจ ุฒุญู„.
This is Christiaan Huygens's book that catalogs all the mistakes people made trying to figure out what was going on with Saturn.
ูˆู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู‡ุฐุง ุญุชู‰ ูƒุงู† ู„ู‡ูˆูŠุบู†ุฒ ุดูŠุฆูŠู†. ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ู†ุธุฑูŠุฉ ุฌูŠุฏุฉ ุนู† ุญู„ู‚ุงุช ุงู„ูƒูˆุงูƒุจ ูˆูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุนู…ู„ ุงู„ู†ุธุงู… ุงู„ุดู…ุณูŠ. ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุŒูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ู…ู†ุธุงุฑ ุฃูุถู„ุŒ ูˆ ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ุงูƒุซุฑ ุฏู‚ุฉ ูˆุงู„ุฐูŠ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ู‡ ุชู…ูƒู† ู…ู† ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุจู…ุง ุงู† ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ุชุชุณุงุฑุน ููŠ ุฏูˆุฑุงู†ู‡ุง -- ุญุณุจ ู‚ูˆุงู†ูŠู† ูƒุจู„ุฑ -- ุงูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ุชุณุงุฑุน ุฒุญู„ุŒ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ู†ู„ุญู‚ ุจู‡.
It wasn't till Huygens had two things: He had a good theory of planetary rings and how the solar system operated, and he had better telescopic, more fine-grain data in which he could figure out that as the Earth is going around faster -- according to Kepler's Laws -- than Saturn, then we catch up with it.
ู†ุญู† ุณู†ุฑู‰ ุฒูˆุงูŠุง ุงู„ุญู„ู‚ุงุช ู…ู† ุฒูˆุงูŠุง ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ.
And we see the angles of the rings at different angles, there.
ูˆ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุŒ ุชุจูŠู† ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ุตุญูŠุญ.
And that, in fact, turns out to be true.
ุงู„ู…ุดุงูƒู„ ู…ุน ูˆุฌูˆุฏ ู†ุธุฑูŠุฉ ุงู† ู†ุธุฑูŠุชูƒ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ุญู…ู„ุฉ ุจุงู†ุญุฑุงูุงุช ู…ุนุฑููŠุฉ.
The problem with having a theory is that it may be loaded with cognitive biases.
ู‡ุฐู‡ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุดุงูƒู„ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุจูŠู† ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠุนุชู‚ุฏ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุจุฃุดูŠุงุก ุบุฑูŠุจุฉ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุณุชูˆู‰ ุจุณูŠุท. ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุณุฃุฐู‡ุจ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงู…ูˆุฑ ุงู„ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฌุฏูŠุฉ.
So one of the problems of explaining why people believe weird things is that we have things, on a simple level, and then I'll go to more serious ones.
ู…ุซู„ุŒ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู…ูŠู„ ู„ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุงู„ูˆุฌูˆู‡.
Like, we have a tendency to see faces.
ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ูˆุฌู‡ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุงู† ุนู„ู‰ ุณุทุญ ุงู„ู…ุฑูŠุฎ --
This is the face on Mars.
ููŠ ุนุงู… 1976 ุŒ ุญูŠุซ ูƒุงู†ุช ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุญุฑูƒุฉ ุดุงู…ู„ุฉ ู„ุฏูุน ูˆูƒุงู„ุฉ ู†ุงุณุง ู„ุชุตูˆูŠุฑ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุธู†ูˆุง ุงู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุตุฑูˆุญ ู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠุฉ ุจู†ุงู‡ุง ุงู„ู…ุฑูŠุฎูŠูˆู†.
In 1976, where there was a whole movement to get NASA to photograph that area because people thought this was monumental architecture made by Martians.
ุซู…ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุจูŠู† -- ูˆู‡ู†ุง ุชุตูˆูŠุฑ ู…ู‚ุฑุจ ู…ู† ุนุงู… 2001.
Here's the close-up of it from 2001.
ุฅุฐุง ู‚ู…ุช ุจุชุตุบูŠุฑ ุนูŠู†ูŠูƒุŒ ู„ุงุฒุงู„ ุจุงู…ูƒุงู†ูƒ ุงู† ุชุฑู‰ ุงู„ูˆุฌู‡.
If you squint, you can still see the face.
ูˆุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชุนุตุฑ ุนูŠู†ูŠู†ูƒุŒ ูุงู† ู…ุง ุชูุนู„ู‡ ู‡ูˆ ูุงู†ุช ุชุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุชุดูˆุด ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุนู… ุงู„ู‰ ุฎุดู†. ุจุฐุงุŒ ุงู†ุช ุชู‚ู„ู„ ู…ู† ุฌูˆุฏุฉ ุจูŠุงู†ุงุชูƒ.
And when you're squinting, you're turning that from fine-grain to coarse-grain, so you're reducing the quality of your data.
ูˆุฅุฐุง ู„ู… ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ู„ูƒู… ู…ุง ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุชุจุญุซูˆู† ุนู†ู‡ุŒ ูุฃู†ุช ู„ุง ุชุฒุงู„ ุชุฑู‰ ุงู„ูˆุฌู‡ุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู†ุง ู…ุจุฑู…ุฌูŠู† ุจุงู„ุชุทูˆุฑ ุงู„ุนุถูˆูŠ ุฃู† ู†ุฑู‰ ูˆุฌูˆู‡.
And if I didn't tell you what to look for, you'd still see the face, because we're programmed by evolution to see faces.
ุงู„ูˆุฌูˆู‡ ู…ู‡ู…ุฉ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู†ุง ุงุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠุง.
Faces are important for us socially.
ูˆุจุทุจูŠุนุฉ ุงู„ุญุงู„ ุŒ ุงู„ูˆุฌูˆู‡ ุงู„ุณุนูŠุฏุฉ. ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู‡ู„ ุงู† ู†ุฑู‰ ูˆุฌูˆู‡ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ุฃู†ูˆุงุน.
And of course, happy faces, faces of all kinds are easy to see.
ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู† ุชุฑู‰ ูˆุฌู‡ ุณุนูŠุฏ ุนู„ู‰ ุณุทุญ ุงู„ู…ุฑูŠุฎุŒ ูˆู‡ู†ุงูƒ.
You see the happy face on Mars, there.
ุฅุฐุง ู…ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ุถูุงุฏุน ุนู„ู…ุงุก ูู„ูƒ ุฑุจู…ุง ุณูŠู…ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุงู„ุถูุฏุน ูƒูŠุฑู…ูŠุช.
If astronomers were frogs, perhaps they'd see Kermit the Frog.
ู‡ู„ ุชุฑูˆู†ู‡ ู‡ู†ุงูƒุŸ ุงู„ุณูŠู‚ุงู† ุงู„ุถูุฏุนูŠุฉ ุงู„ุตุบูŠุฑุฉ.
Do you see him there? Little froggy legs.
ุงูˆ ุงุฐุง ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฌูŠูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠูˆู† ููŠู„ุฉุŸ
Or if geologists were elephants?
ุงู„ุงูŠู‚ูˆู†ุงุช ุงู„ุฏูŠู†ูŠุฉ.
Religious iconography.
ุชู… ุงูƒุชุดุงูู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ุฎุจุงุฒ ููŠ ูˆู„ุงูŠุฉ ุชูŠู†ูŠุณูŠ ููŠ ุนุงู… 1996.
Discovered by a Tennessee baker in 1996.
ูŠุทู„ุจ ุฎู…ุณุฉ ุฏูˆู„ุงุฑุงุช ู„ู„ุดุฎุต ู„ู„ุณู…ุงุญ ุจุฑุคูŠุฉ ูƒุนูƒุฉ ุงู„ุฑุงู‡ุจุฉ ุญุชู‰ ุงุฑุบู… ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชูˆู‚ู ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุญุงู…ูŠ ุงู„ุฃู… ุชูŠุฑูŠุฒุง.
He charged five bucks a head to come see the nun bun till he got a cease-and-desist from Mother Teresa's lawyer.
ู‡ู†ุง ุณูŠุฏุฉ ุบูˆุงุฏุงู„ูˆุจูŠ ูˆุณูŠุฏุฉ ุงุชุณูˆู†ููŠู„ุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ู‚ุงุฑุนุฉ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚. ุงูˆ ุงู†ู‡ุง ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุฑุชูุน ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงุŸ
Here's Our Lady of Guadalupe and Our Lady of Watsonville, just down the street, or is it up the street from here?
ู„ุญุงุก ุงู„ุดุฌุฑ ุจุดูƒู„ ุฎุงุต ุฌูŠุฏ ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ุทูŠู ูˆู…ุญุจุจุŒ ูˆู…ุชุนุฑู‚ุŒ ุฃุณูˆุฏ ูˆุฃุจูŠุถ ู…ุจู‚ุน ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุตูˆู„ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ู…ุท ุงู„ู…ุทู„ูˆุจ -- ุงู„ุจุดุฑ ู‡ู… ุญูŠูˆุงู†ุงุช ุชุจุญุซ ุนู† ุงู„ุงู†ู…ุงุท.
Tree bark is particularly good because it's nice and grainy, branchy, black-and-white splotchy and you can get the pattern-seeking -- humans are pattern-seeking animals.
ู‡ู†ุง ู…ุฑูŠู… ุงู„ุนุฐุฑุงุก ุนู„ู‰ ุฌุงู†ุจ ู…ู† ู†ุงูุฐุฉ ุฒุฌุงุฌูŠุฉ ููŠ ุณุงูˆ ุจุงูˆู„ูˆ.
Here's the Virgin Mary on the side of a glass window in Sao Paulo.
ุงู„ุขู† ุŒ ู‡ุง ู‡ูŠ ู…ุฑูŠู… ุงู„ุนุฐุฑุงุก ุŒ ุธู‡ุฑุช ุนู„ู‰ ุดุทูŠุฑุฉ ุฌุจู† -- ูˆ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู…ูƒู†ุช ู…ู† ุญู…ู„ู‡ุง ููŠ ูƒุงุฒูŠู†ูˆ ู„ุงุณ ููŠุบุงุณุŒ ุจุงู„ุชุงูƒูŠุฏุŒ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู…ุฑูŠูƒุง.
Here's when the Virgin Mary made her appearance on a cheese sandwich -- which I got to actually hold in a Las Vegas casino -- of course, this being America.
ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ูƒุงุฒูŠู†ูˆ ุฏูุน 28ุŒ500 ุฏูˆู„ุงุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ูˆู‚ุน ุฆูŠ ุจุงูŠ ู„ุดุทูŠุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฌุจู†.
This casino paid $28,500 on eBay for the cheese sandwich.
ูˆู„ูƒู† ู‡ู„ ุญู‚ุง ุชุจุฏูˆ ู…ุซู„ ู…ุฑูŠู… ุงู„ุนุฐุฑุงุกุŸ
But who does it really look like? The Virgin Mary?
ู„ุฏูŠู‡ุง ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุดูุงู‡ ุงู„ู…ุฌุนุฏุฉุŒ ู…ูˆุถุฉ ุนุตุฑ ุงู„ุงุฑุจุนูŠู†ูŠุงุช.
It has that sort of puckered lips, 1940s-era look.
ู…ุฑูŠู… ุงู„ุนุฐุฑุงุก ููŠ ูƒู„ูŠุฑูˆูˆุชุฑ .
Virgin Mary in Clearwater, Florida.
ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุฃู†ุง ูุนู„ุง ุฐู‡ุจุช ู„ุฑุคูŠุฉ ู‡ุฐู‡.
I actually went to see this one.
ูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ -- ุงู„ู…ุคู…ู†ูˆู† ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ู‡ู†ุงูƒ --
There was a lot of people there.
ุงู„ูƒุฑุงุณูŠ ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฑูƒุฉ ูˆุงู„ุนูƒุงุฒุงุชุŒ ูˆู‡ู„ู… ุฌุฑุง.
The faithful come in their wheelchairs and crutches, and so on.
ูˆู†ุฒู„ู†ุง ู„ู„ุชุญู‚ูŠู‚.
We went down and investigated.
ูู‚ุท ู„ุฃุนุทูŠูƒ ุงู„ุญุฌู… -- ุงู† ุฏุงูˆูƒูŠู†ุฒุŒ ูˆุงู†ุง ูˆ ุฑุงู†ุฏูŠ ุงู„ู…ุฐู‡ู„ุฉุŒ ุจุฌูˆุงุฑ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุจู†ุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุคู„ูุฉ ู…ู† ุทุงุจู‚ูŠู†ุŒ ุทุงุจู‚ูŠู† ูˆ ู†ุตู.
Just to give you a size, that's Dawkins, me and The Amazing Randi, next to this two, two and a half story-sized image.
ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุดู…ูˆุนุŒ ุนุฏุฉ ุงู„ุงู ู…ู† ุงู„ุดู…ูˆุน ุงู„ุชูŠ ุงูˆู‚ุฏู‡ุง ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูˆู‚ุฏู…ู‡ุง ู„ู‡ุฐู‡.
All these candles, thousands of candles people had lit in tribute to this.
ู„ุฐุง ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจุงู„ุณูŠุฑ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุฌู‡ุฉ ุงู„ุฎู„ููŠุฉุŒ ู„ู†ุฑู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุฌุฑูŠ ู‡ู†ุงุŒ
So we walked around the backside, to see what was going on.
ุญูŠุซ ุงุชุถุญ ุญูŠุซู…ุง ูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฑุฃุณ ู…ุฑุดุฉ ูˆุดุฌุฑุฉ ู†ุฎูŠู„ุŒ ุณูˆู ุชุญุตู„ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุชุฃุซูŠุฑ.
It turns out wherever there's a sprinkler head and a palm tree, you get the effect.
ู‡ู†ุง ู…ุฑูŠู… ุงู„ุนุฐุฑุงุก ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฌู‡ุฉ ุงู„ุฎู„ููŠุฉุŒุญูŠุซ ุจุฏุฃุช ุชู…ุญู‰.
Here's the Virgin Mary on the backside, which they started to wipe off.
ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ูƒ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุฃู† ุชู…ุชู„ูƒ ุงูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ู…ุนุฌุฒุฉ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ููŠ ูƒู„ ู…ุจู†ู‰.
I guess you can only have one miracle per building.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ู„ ู‡ูŠ ุญู‚ุง ู…ุนุฌุฒุฉ ู…ุฑูŠู…ุŒ ุฃู… ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู…ุนุฌุฒุฉ ู…ุงุฑุฌุŸ
So is it really a miracle of Mary, or is it a miracle of Marge?
ูˆุณุฃู†ุชู‡ูŠ ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„. ุงูˆู‡ุงู… ุณู…ุนูŠุฉ-ุตูˆุชูŠุฉ.
And now I'm going to finish up with another example of this, with auditory illusions.
ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ูู„ู… "ุถูˆุถุงุก ุจูŠุถุงุกุŒ" ู…ุน ู…ุงูŠูƒู„ ูƒูŠุชูˆู† ุนู† ุงู„ู…ูˆุชู‰ ูˆู‡ู… ูŠุฑุฏูˆู† ุนู„ูŠู†ุง.
There's this film, "White Noise," with Michael Keaton, about the dead talking back to us.
ุจุงู„ู…ู†ุงุณุจุฉ ุŒ ูุฅู† ุงู„ุชุญุฏุซ ู…ุน ุงู„ู…ูˆุชู‰ ู„ูŠุณ ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑ.
By the way, the whole business of talking to the dead is not that big a deal.
ุชุจูŠู† ุงู† ุฃูŠ ุดุฎุต ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ.
Anybody can do it, turns out.
ุงู† ุชุฌุนู„ ุงู„ู…ูˆุชู‰ ูŠุฑุฏูˆู† ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุดูŠุฆ ุงู„ุตุนุจ.
It's getting the dead to talk back that's the really hard part.
ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุญุงู„ุฉุŒ ูŠูุชุฑุถ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฑุณุงุฆู„ ุฎููŠุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุธูˆุงู‡ุฑ ุงู„ุงู„ูƒุชุฑูˆู†ูŠุฉ.
In this case, supposedly, these messages are hidden in electronic phenomena. There's a ReverseSpeech.com web page where I downloaded this stuff.
ู‡ุฐุง ู…ูˆู‚ุน "ุงู„ูƒู„ุงู… ุงู„ู…ุนูƒูˆุณ" ูˆุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‚ู…ุช ุจุชู†ุฒูŠู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุงุฏุฉ ู…ู†ู‡.
If there's a bustle in your hedgerow don't be alarmed now.
ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุชุณุฌูŠู„ ุงู„ุงูƒุซุฑ ุดู‡ุฑุฉ.
It's just a spring clean for the May Queen.
ู‡ู†ุง ู†ุณุฎุฉ ุงู„ุงุณุชู…ุงุน ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู…ุงู… ู…ู† ุฃุบู†ูŠุฉ ู…ุดู‡ูˆุฑุฉ ุฌุฏุง. ูŠุงูˆู„ุฏุŒ ุงู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู† ุชู‚ุถูŠ ูƒู„ ุงู„ู†ู‡ุงุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุงุณุชู…ุงุนุŸ
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, There's still time to change the road you're on.
ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุงุณุชู…ุงุน ุจุงู„ุนูƒุณุŒ ู„ู†ุฑู‰ ู…ุง ุงุฐุง ูƒุงู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุณู…ุงุน ุงู„ุฑุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุฎููŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูุชุฑุถ ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุฏุงุฎู„.
Couldn't you just listen to that all day? All right, here it is backwards, and see if you can hear the hidden messages that are supposedly in there.
ู…ุงุฐุง ูˆุฌุฏุชู…ุŸ
What did you get? Audience: Satan!
ู…ุงูŠูƒู„ ุดุฑู…ุฑ: ุงู„ุดูŠุทุงู†ุŸ ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ ุงู„ุดูŠุทุงู†.
Satan. OK, at least we got "Satan".
ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ุณุงุณุชูุฒ ุงู„ุฌุฒุก ุงู„ุณู…ุนูŠ ู…ู† ุงุฏู…ุบุชูƒู… ู„ุงู…ู„ูŠ ุนู„ูŠูƒู… ู…ุง ูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูุชุฑุถ ุฃู† ุชุณู…ุนูˆุงุŒ ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ู†ุณุชู…ุน ุงู„ูŠู‡ ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰.
Now, I'll prime the auditory part of your brain to tell you what you're supposed to hear, and then hear it again.
ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชููˆุชูƒู… ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ู„ูƒู… ู…ุงู‡ู†ุงูƒ.
You can't miss it when I tell you what's there.
ุฌูŠุฏุŒ ุงู†ุง ุณุงู†ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุงู† ู…ุน ู‚ุตุฉ ู‚ุตูŠุฑุฉ ุฅูŠุฌุงุจูŠุฉ ูˆ ู„ุทูŠูุฉ
I'm going to just end with a positive, nice little story.
ุญูˆู„ -- ุงู„ู…ุชุดูƒูƒูˆู† ูˆู‡ูŠ ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ุบูŠุฑ ุฑุจุญูŠุฉ.
The Skeptics is a nonprofit educational organization.
ู†ุญู† ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ู†ุจุญุซ ุนู† ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุตุบูŠุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฌูŠุฏุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ู†ุงุณ.
We're always looking for little good things that people do.
ููŠ ุงู†ุฌู„ุชุฑุง ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุบู†ูŠุฉ ุจูˆุจ.
And in England, there's a pop singer.
ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ู…ู† ุงูƒุซุฑ ุงู„ู…ุทุฑุจูŠู† ุดุนุจูŠุฉ ููŠ ุงู†ุฌู„ุชุฑุง ุงู„ูŠูˆู…ุŒ ูƒุงุชูŠ ู…ูŠู„ูˆุง.
One of the top popular singers in England today, Katie Melua.
ูˆู‚ุฏ ูƒุชุจุช ุงุบู†ูŠุฉ ุฌู…ูŠู„ุฉ.
And she wrote a beautiful song.
ูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุจูŠู† ู‚ุงุฆู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฎู…ุณุฉ ุงุบุงู†ูŠ ุงู„ุงูˆู„ู‰ ููŠ ุนุงู… 2005ุŒ ุงุณู… ุงู„ุงุบู†ูŠุฉุŒ "ุชุณุนุฉ ู…ู„ุงูŠูŠู† ุฏุฑุงุฌุฉ ู‡ูˆุงุฆูŠุฉ ููŠ ุจูƒูŠู†".
It was in the top five in 2005, called, "Nine Million Bicycles in Beijing."
ุงู†ู‡ุง ู‚ุตุฉ ุญุจ -- ู‡ูŠ ู†ู…ุท ุงุบุงู†ูŠ ู†ูˆุฑุงู‡ ุฌูˆู†ุฒ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู…ู„ูƒุฉ ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ -- ุญูˆู„ ูƒู… ู‡ูŠ ุชุญุจ ุญุจูŠุจู‡ุงุŒ ูˆุจุงู„ู…ู‚ุงุฑู†ุฉ ู…ุน ุชุณุนุฉ ู…ู„ุงูŠูŠู† ุฏุฑุงุฌุฉ ู‡ูˆุงุฆูŠุฉุŒ ูˆู‡ูƒุฐุง ุฏูˆุงู„ูŠูƒ.
It's a love story -- she's sort of the Norah Jones of the UK -- about how she much loves her guy, and compared to nine million bicycles, and so forth.
ูˆููŠู‡ุง ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทุน.
And she has this one passage here.
โ™ซ ู†ุญู† ุนู„ู‰ ุจุนุฏ 12 ู…ู„ูŠุงุฑ ุณู†ุฉ ุถูˆุฆูŠุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุงูุฉ โ™ซ โ™ซ ุฐุงูƒ ุชุฎู…ูŠู† โ™ซ โ™ซ ู„ุง ุงุญุฏ ูŠุณุชุทูŠุน ุงู† ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ุตุญูŠุญ โ™ซ โ™ซ ูˆู„ูƒู†ูŠ ุฃุนู„ู… ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุณูˆู ุงูƒูˆู† ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ู…ุนูƒ โ™ซ
We are 12 billion light-years from the edge That's a guess, No one can ever say it's true, But I know that I will always be with you.
ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู„ุทูŠู. ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงู‚ู„ ูƒุงู†ุช ู‚ุฑูŠุจุฉ.
Michael Shermer: Well, that's nice. At least she got it close.
ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ุณุชูƒูˆู†ุŒ "ู†ุญู† ุนู„ู‰ ุจุนุฏ 6ุŒ000 ุณู†ุฉ ุถูˆุฆูŠุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุงูุฉ".
In America it'd be, "We're 6,000 light years from the edge."
ูˆู„ูƒู† ุตุฏูŠู‚ูŠุŒ ุณูŠู…ูˆู† ุณูŠู†ุฌุŒ ููŠุฒูŠุงุฆูŠ ุงู„ุฌุณูŠู…ุงุชุŒ ูˆุงู„ุฐูŠ ุงุตุจุญ ู…ุฏุฑุณ ุนู„ูˆู…ุŒ ูˆูƒุชุจ ูƒุชุงุจ "ุงู„ุงู†ูุฌุงุฑ ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑ"ุŒ ูˆู‡ู„ู… ุฌุฑุง. ูŠุณุชุบู„ ูƒู„ ูุฑุตุฉ ู„ุชุนุฒูŠุฒ ุงู„ุจุญูˆุซ ุงู„ุนู„ู…ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฌูŠุฏุฉ.
But my friend, Simon Singh, the particle physicist now turned science educator, who wrote the book "The Big Bang," and so on, uses every chance he gets to promote good science.
ู„ุฐุงุŒ ูƒุชุจ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงู„ ุงู„ุงูุชุชุงุญูŠ ู„ุตุญูŠูุฉ ุงู„ุบุงุฑุฏูŠุงู† ุงู„ุจุฑูŠุทุงู†ูŠุฉ ุนู† ุฃุบู†ูŠุฉ ูƒุงุชูŠุŒ ูˆู…ู…ุง ู‚ุงู„ุŒ ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ู†ุญู† ู†ุนุฑู ุจุงู„ุถุจุท ูƒู… ุนู…ุฑ ุงู„ุญุงูุฉ ูˆุจุนุฏู†ุง ุนู†ู‡ุง.
And so he wrote an op-ed piece in "The Guardian" about Katie's song, in which he said, well, we know exactly how far from the edge.
ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ู‡ูˆ 12 -- ู‡ูˆ 13.7 ู…ู„ูŠุงุฑ ุณู†ุฉ ุถูˆุฆูŠุฉุŒ ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู„ูŠุณ ุชุฎู…ูŠู†.
You know, it's 13.7 billion light years, and it's not a guess.
ู†ุญู† ู†ุนุฑู ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ุญุงู†ุงุช ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฎุทุฃ ุฏู‚ูŠู‚ ูƒูŠู ูŠุชู… ุฅุบู„ุงู‚ู‡.
We know within precise error bars how close it is.
ูˆุนู„ูŠู‡ุŒ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ุŒ ูˆุฅู† ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุตุญูŠุญุง ุจุดูƒู„ ู…ุทู„ู‚ุŒ ุงู„ุง ุงู†ู‡ุง ู‚ุฑูŠุจุฉ ุฌุฏุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠุฉ.
So we can say, although not absolutely true, it's pretty close to being true.
ูˆ ู„ู„ุงู…ุงู†ุฉุŒ ูƒุงุชูŠ ุงุชุตู„ุช ุจู‡ ุจุนุฏ ู†ุดุฑ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุงูุชุชุงุญูŠุฉ. ูˆ ู‚ุงู„ุช "ุงู†ุง ู…ุญุฑุฌุฉ ุฌุฏุง.
And, to his credit, Katie called him up after this op-ed piece came out, and said, "I'm so embarrassed. I was in the astronomy club.
ูƒู†ุช ุนุถูˆุฉ ููŠ ู†ุงุฏูŠ ุงู„ูู„ูƒุŒ ูˆูƒุงู† ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุงุนุฑู ู‡ุฐุง ุจุดูƒู„ ุฃูุถู„ ".
I should've known better."
ูˆู‚ุงู…ุช ุจุงุนุงุฏุฉ ูƒุชุงุจุฉ ุงู„ุงุบู†ูŠุฉ.
And she re-cut the song. So I will end with the new version.
ูˆุณุฃู†ู‡ูŠ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุฎุฉ ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ. โ™ซ ู†ุญู† ุนู„ู‰ ุจุนุฏ 13.7 ู…ู„ูŠุงุฑ ุณู†ุฉ ุถูˆุฆูŠุฉ โ™ซ โ™ซ ู…ู† ุญุงูุฉ ุงู„ูƒูˆู† ุงู„ู…ู„ุงุญุธุฉ โ™ซ
We are 13.7 billion light years from the edge of the observable universe.
โ™ซ ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุชู‚ุฏูŠุฑ ุฌูŠุฏ ู…ุน ู…ุฑุงุนุงุฉ ู†ุณุจุฉ ุงู„ุฎุทุฃ โ™ซ
That's a good estimate with well-defined error bars.
โ™ซ ูˆู…ุน ุงู„ู…ุนู„ูˆู…ุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุงุญุฉ โ™ซ โ™ซุงู†ุง ุฃุชูˆู‚ุน ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุณูˆู ุงูƒูˆู† ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ู…ุนูƒ โ™ซ
And with the available information, I predict that I will always be with you.
ู…ุง ุงุทุฑู ุฐู„ูƒุŸ
How cool is that?
ุฃู†ุง ุฃุญุจ ุงู„ุฃุดุฌุงุฑุŒ ูˆุงู†ุง ู…ุญุธูˆุธ ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ุนูŠุด ุจุงู„ู‚ุฑุจ ู…ู† ู…ุดุชู„ ุฑุงุฆุนุŒ ูˆููŠ ุฃูŠุงู… ุงู„ุฃุญุฏ ุนุงุฏุฉู‹ุŒ ุฃุฐู‡ุจ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุน ุฒูˆุฌุชูŠ ูˆุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ู…ุน ุทูู„ู†ุง ุฐุง ุงู„ุฃุฑุจุน ุฃุนูˆุงู… ูˆู†ุชุณู„ู‚ ุงู„ุฃุดุฌุงุฑ ุŒ ูˆู†ู„ุนุจ ู„ุนุจุฉ ุงู„ุฅุฎุชุจุงุก.
I love trees, and I'm very lucky, because we live near a wonderful arboretum, and Sundays, usually, I'd go there with my wife and now, with my four-year-old, and we'd climb in the trees, we'd play hide and seek.
ูˆูƒุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุงู„ุซุงู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฅู„ุชุญู‚ุช ุจู‡ุง ูƒุงู† ููŠู‡ุง ุฃุดุฌุงุฑ ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ ุจู‡ุง ุดุฌุฑุฉ ุฎุฒุงู…ู‰ ุฑุงุฆุนุฉุŒ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ุฃูƒุจุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุจู„ุงุฏุŒ ูˆู‡ูŠ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ุŒ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ุง ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุจุงุชุงุช ูˆุงู„ุดุฌูŠุฑุงุช ุญูˆู„ู‡ุงุŒ ูˆุญูˆู„ ู…ูŠุงุฏูŠู† ุงู„ู„ุนุจ.
The second school I was at had big trees too, had a fantastic tulip tree, I think it was the biggest in the country, and it also had a lot of wonderful bushes and vegetation around it, around the playing fields.
ูˆููŠ ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ุฃูŠุงู… ุฃู…ุณูƒ ุจูŠ ุจุนุถ ุฒู…ู„ุงุฆูŠุŒ ูˆุฃุฎุฐูˆุง ุงู„ุฃุบุตุงู†ุŒ ูˆุชู… ุชุฌุฑูŠุฏูŠุŒ ูˆุงู„ู‡ุฌูˆู… ุนู„ูŠุŒ ูˆุชู… ุฅุณุชุบู„ุงู„ูŠุŒ ูˆู†ุชุฌ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ู† ูุฑุงุบ.
One day I was grabbed by some of my classmates, and taken in the bushes -- I was stripped; I was attacked; I was abused; and this came out of the blue.
ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ุงู„ุณุจุจ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ูƒู†ุช ุฃููƒุฑ-- ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุฑุฌุนุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉุŒ ุดุนุฑุช ุจุฃู†ู†ูŠ ู‚ุฐุฑุŒ ุดุนุฑุช ุจุงู„ุฎูŠุงู†ุฉุŒ ุดุนุฑุช ุจุงู„ุฎุฌู„ุŒ ู„ูƒู† ุนุงู…ุฉ-- ุนุงู…ุฉุŒ ุดุนุฑุช ุจุงู„ุถุนูุŒ
Now, the reason I say that, because, afterwards, I was thinking -- well, I went back into the school -- I felt dirty; I felt betrayed; I felt ashamed, but mainly -- mainly, I felt powerless.
ูˆุจุนุฏ 30 ุนุงู…ุงู‹ ู„ุงุญู‚ุงู‹ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุฌู„ุณ ููŠ ุทุงุฆุฑุฉุŒ ุจุฌุงู†ุจ ุดุงุจุฉ ุชุณู…ู‰ ููŠุฑูˆู†ูƒุงุŒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฌุงุกุช ู…ู† ุชุดูŠู„ูŠุŒ ูˆูƒู†ุง ููŠ ุฌูˆู„ุฉ ุญูˆู„ ุญู‚ูˆู‚ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู†ุŒ ูˆูƒุงู†ุช ู‚ุฏ ุจุฏุฃุช ุจุฅุฎุจุงุฑูŠ ูƒูŠู ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุงู„ุชุนุฑุถ ู„ู„ุชุนุฐูŠุจุŒ ูˆู…ู† ู…ูˆู‚ุนูŠ ูˆู…ูƒุงู†ูŠ ุงู„ู…ู…ูŠุฒ ุฌุฏุงู‹ุŒ ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุฑุฌุนูŠุฉ ุงู„ูˆุญูŠุฏุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุชูŠุญุช ู„ูŠ.
And 30 years later I was sitting in an airplane, next to a lady called Veronica, who came from Chile, and we were on a human rights tour, and she was starting to tell me what it was like to be tortured, and, from my very privileged position, this was the only reference point that I had.
ูˆู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ุชุนู„ู… ู…ุฏู‡ุดุฉ ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠุŒ ูƒุงู†ุช ุญู‚ูˆู‚ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู† ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุดุฆ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒู†ุช ููŠู‡ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ุจุฅู‡ุชู…ุงู… ุซุงู†ูˆูŠุŒ ู„ูƒู†ุŒ ุนุงู…ุฉุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู‡ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ุดูŠุฆุงู‹ ุญุฏุซ ู„ุฃู†ุงุณ ุขุฎุฑูŠู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ.
And it was an amazing learning experience because, for me, human rights have been something in which I had, you know, a part-time interest, but, mainly, it was something that happened to other people over there.
ู„ูƒู†ูŠ ุชู„ู‚ูŠุช ู…ูƒุงู„ู…ุฉ ู‡ุงุชููŠุฉ ู…ู† ุจูˆู†ูˆ ุนุงู… 1985 ูˆุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ุฅู†ู‡ ู…ุบู†ูŠ ุนุธูŠู…ุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู‡ ู…ุญุชุงู„ ุฑุงุฆุนุŒ ูˆ -- ุดุฎุต ุตุนุจ ุฃู† ุชู‚ูˆู„ ู„ู‡ ู„ุงุŒ ูˆู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู† ูŠู‚ูˆู„ุŒ ุจู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฅู†ุชู‡ุงุฆูŠ ู…ู† ุฃุบู†ูŠุฉ ุจูŠูƒูˆุŒ ุณู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุฌูˆู„ุฉ ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ ุงู„ุนููˆ ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ูŠุฉ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ููŠู‡ุงุŒ ูˆุญู‚ุงู‹ ูƒุงู†ุช ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฎุฑุฌุช ููŠู‡ุง ูˆุจุฏุฃุช ุจู„ู‚ุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุณ
But I got a phone call from Bono in 1985 and, as you know, he's a great singer, but he's a magnificent hustler, and -- -- a very hard guy to say no to, and he was saying, you know, just after I'd done the Biko song, we're going to do a tour for Amnesty, you have to be on it, and really that was the first time that I'd been out and started meeting people
ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ุดุงู‡ุฏูˆุง ุฃุณุฑู‡ู… ูŠุชู… ู‚ุชู„ู‡ู… ุฃู…ุงู… ุฃุนูŠู†ู‡ู…ุŒ ูˆู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… ุดุฑูƒุงุก ุชู… ุงู„ุฅู„ู‚ุงุก ุจู‡ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ุทุงุฆุฑุฉ ุงู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุญูŠุทุŒ ูˆูุฌุฃุฉุŒ ูˆุตู„ ุนุงู„ู… ุญู‚ูˆู‚ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู† ุฅู„ู‰ ุนุงู„ู…ูŠุŒ ูˆู„ู… ุฃุณุชุทุนุŒ ุญู‚ุงู‹ุŒ ุงู„ู‡ุฑูˆุจ ุจู†ูุณ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ู‡ุงุฏุฆุฉ ูƒู…ุง ุณุจู‚.
who'd watched their family being shot in front of them, who'd had a partner thrown out of an airplane into an ocean, and suddenly this world of human rights arrived in my world, and I couldn't really walk away in quite the same way as before.
ูˆู„ุฐุง ูู‚ุฏ ุดุงุฑูƒุช ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฌูˆู„ุฉุŒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ AmnestyุŒ ุซู… ููŠ ุนุงู… 88 ุฃุฎุฐุช ุฏูˆุฑ ุจูˆู†ูˆ ููŠ ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุฉ ุชุนู„ู… ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุงู„ุฅุญุชูŠุงู„.
So I got involved with this tour, which was for Amnesty, and then in '88 I took over Bono's job trying to learn how to hustle.
ู„ู… ุงูุนู„ู‡ุง ูƒู…ุง ูŠู†ุจุบูŠุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฑุชุจู†ุง ู„ู†ุดุฑูƒ ูŠูˆุณูŠูˆ ู†ุฏูˆุฑุŒ ุฅุณุชูŠู†ุฌุŒ ุชุฑุงุณูŠ ุชุดุงุจู…ุงู†ุŒ ูˆุจุฑูˆุณ ุณุจุฑูŠู†ุณุชูŠู† ู„ุฌูˆู„ุฉ ุนุงู„ู…ูŠุฉ ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ AmnestyุŒ ูˆู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ุฑุงุฆุนุฉ.
I didn't do it as well, but we managed to get Youssou N'Dour, Sting, Tracy Chapman, and Bruce Springsteen to go 'round the world for Amnesty, and it was an amazing experience.
ูˆู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ุชู„ู‚ูŠุช ุชุนู„ูŠู…ุงู‹ ููˆู‚ ุฅุนุชูŠุงุฏูŠุŒ ูˆู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ุŒ ุญู‚ุงู‹ุŒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฅู„ุชู‚ูŠุช ููŠู‡ุง ุจุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงุคู„ุฆูƒ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ุจู„ุฏุงู† ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉุŒ ูˆู‚ุตุต ุญู‚ูˆู‚ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู† ุชู„ูƒ ุฃุตุจุญุช ู…ู„ู…ูˆุณุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ุŒ ูˆู…ุฌุฏุฏุงู‹ุŒ ู„ู… ุฃุณุชุทุน ุญู‚ุงู‹ ุงู„ุฐู‡ุงุจ ู…ุฑุชุงุญ ุงู„ุจุงู„.
And, once again, I got an extraordinary education, and it was the first time, really, that I'd met a lot of these people in the different countries, and these human rights stories became very physical, and, again, I couldn't really walk away quite so comfortably.
ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุดุฆ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุฃุฐู‡ู„ู†ูŠ ุญู‚ุงู‹ุŒ ุจุฃู†ู†ูŠ ู„ุง ุฃุนุฑู ุดูŠุฆุงู‹ุŒ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุฃู† ุชุนุงู†ูŠ ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ูˆ ุซู… ูŠุชู… ู†ูƒุฑุงู† ุชุฌุฑุจุชูƒ ุŒ ู‚ุตุชูƒุŒ ูˆุชุฏูู† ูˆุชูู†ุณู‰.
But the thing that really amazed me, that I had no idea, was that you could suffer in this way and then have your whole experience, your story, denied, buried and forgotten.
ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฃุชุถุญ ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ุชู‰ ู…ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ูƒุงู…ูŠุฑุง ุญุงุถุฑุฉุŒ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ุฃูˆ ูู„ู… ุงู„ูƒุงู…ูŠุฑุงุŒ ูุฃู†ู‡ ุฃู…ุฑ ุตุนุจ ูุนู„ู‡ุŒ ู„ุฃุคู„ุฆูƒ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ููŠ ุงู„ุณู„ุทุฉ ุฃู† ูŠุฏูู†ูˆุง ุงู„ู‚ุตุฉ.
And it seemed that whenever there was a camera around, or a video or film camera, it was a great deal harder to do -- for those in power to bury the story.
ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฃุณุณุช ุฑูŠุจูˆูƒ ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ ุจุนุฏ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฌูˆู„ุงุช ู„ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ ู‡ูŠูˆู…ุงู† ุฑุงูŠุชุณ ู†ุงูˆ ูˆูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู‚ุฑุงุฑุงู‹ ุญูŠู†ู‡ุง -- ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ู‚ุฏู…ู†ุง ุฅู‚ุชุฑุงุญุงู‹ุŒ ู„ุนุฏุฉ ุณู†ูˆุงุชุŒ ุจู…ุญุงูˆู„ุฉ ุชุฃุณูŠุณ ู‚ุณู… ูˆุงุฌุจู‡ ู‡ูˆ ุชู‚ุฏูŠู… ูƒุงู…ูŠุฑุงุช ู„ู†ุงุดุทูŠ ุญู‚ูˆู‚ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู†.
And Reebok set up a foundation after these Human Rights Now tours and there was a decision then -- well, we made a proposal, for a couple of years, about trying to set up a division that was going to give cameras to human rights activists.