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Yeah.
7ack
Police were called what happened that night?
1irq
Well, my friends and I, I guess we were having a party in the common area of the dorm, and I guess we got too loud. There are some professors living in the dorm. They call Campus Security, Campus Security came and I was found with a bag on me and I ended up down at the police station my other friend to the two of us were down there but you know, it didn't really amount to too much. It's it's hard to remember the whole night because I was pretty wasted but it really sort of got brushed over me.
0id
You mean the offense like, you know, I have a criminal record.
5yq
No, no, no, it was expunged. That's not on my record. I don't have a record.
9on
Does it ever caused you problems?
5yq
No. No, it's embarrassing, but that's about it.
9on
I say, Well, I'd like to be able to get along better with other women. I just like to feel better overall, you know? I honestly don't know I thought it was them. And then I started thinking, well maybe it's me because it happened to the other place at work too kind of the same and like I said, with the women in the neighborhood I'd also like to be able to be a better mom. Like I said, I spend lot of time in bed lately. I'm not that great of a mom or wife. I'm pretty boring. I Just asleep a lot.
0id
Can you remember a time when you didn't feel this way?
5yq
Yeah. Like, even last year.
8op
even last year?
4crq
Yeah
6cd
okay
7ack
Yeah, I mean, it still wasn't great at work. But you know, it was uncomfortable. I'd say with my coworkers it's really escalated. But you know, that other part at home it wasn't. It wasn't as hard. I was gonna have more energy.
0id
Okay, tell me about your strengths. What do you do?
1irq
Umm Well, normally I am a good mom. I love my kids. I'm a very good parent in terms of disciplining them not being the way my mom was, you know, I want them to know they're loved as really important that they know they are loved. My kids know that they are loved. And my strikes I'm smart, creative when I have the energy, mysisters think I'm funny. My friends thinks I could cook.
0id
good cook, do you think you're funny?
5yq
Um, I never really thought I was but last year a lot of people were telling me I was not now.
9on
Things have changed markedly on that in that department?
5yq
Yeah
8op
Wow, that's a lot of strengths. So we're almost done with intake today. Right? We'll be starting the regular sessions later starting next week.
3gc
Okay, nice.
7ack
Well, it's not really like I'm picturing Am I gonna get a gun blow my brains out or anything like that. It's more like when I get home from work and I'm lying there I want to go down you know, play hearts with my kids or something like that and I just I can't do it. I just want to turn the lights out and I do and go to sleep. I think like if I just went to sleep right now didn't wake up tomorrow. You know, how bad would that be?
0id
So kind of a passive suicidal thinking process. You don't have any intent to harm yourself? Or any plan to harm youself.
5yq
No No
9on
Are you sure?
4crq
yeah.
6cd
Yeah.
8op
I guess I can call my sisters okay
0id
You said you can call call your sister or your husband and say they weren't available as we've kind of move up, like to the plan.
3gc
I can call my best friend. Yeah, even though like we haven't talked in a long time, I could call her anytime. It's like, No Time passes.
3gc
Don't know
0id
Okay, okay.
4crq
Yes, sure.
8op
Last thing I want to talk to you about before we have our first session is I want to Well, I want to thank you for coming into that. Right. And I know that I know that these intakes are relatively dry. I mean, you're talking I'm writing when I'm taking down information. It's very helpful for me, though, for your treatment later on. But I realize it's not the traditional understanding most clients have counseling.
0id
Yeah, right
7ack
Just supplying data to the counselor all the time, right? We'll get to the I guess you could say quote unquote, real sessions when we start next time. But I want to thank you for being patient through this process. It really will help us to get more valuable you to get more value out of those sessions.
0id
All right.
7ack
And I want to encourage you, I know that from what you said in the intake, that you're feeling down, if like you're relating well to your coworkers, it's it appears that you're disappointing yourself and how you're relating to your children and your husband. Like, not a good mom, not a good spouse. All all these thoughts are understandable in the context of being down or maybe depressed, right? If that's what's going on, it sounds like that is what could be going on.
0id
Ok
7ack
Umm No, I don't think so.
9on
If you should have any questions to rise, I know for me, I always think of the best questions after I leave. You know, if I'm in an environment where I'm supposed to ask questions, and somebody says that, it's always when I get my car that I remember them. Yeah. So if that happens to you, feel free to give me a call and leave a message. And I'll be happy to get back to you with an answer as soon as I can. So I look forward to seeing you next week then.
0id
Okay, good.
7ack
Thanks again
3gc
Thank you.
3gc
Okay
7ack
And there are a number of questions here and a number of sort of different anger dimensions. And I think the place we're going to start is if you look at all the questions that you answered, it comes up with something called a total score, which is just kind of looking at everything together. And when we look at the total score, you scored quite high actually scored in a range that we would sort of call the 99th percentile, which means Yeah, which means that your anger is at Level greater than 99% of the population of men your age
0id
Yeah. Well, I didn't, I didn't think I was gonna read that high. When I figured a lot of people who was in my category that have, I would have figured out probably in about a 60% 75, just a little above average. Wow, that's way up there.
3gc
It's a little bit high. And it might indicate that that really anger does get you in trouble at times in terms of relationships and closing. So you've recognized that
3gc
I've always recognized that I've seen it, try to deny a lot of times, but then I recognize it that I'm going to say that I know I have issues.
3gc
Okay. So this kind of just highlights that and puts a number on and it sounds
3gc
so that's where the studies have been done.
3gc
Yeah, right. Exactly. Kind of comparing how you answered the question to, to the general population of folks of your age Because you're really you're sort of in the top 1% of scores
4crq
I've gotten a lot of serious problems I mean the same thing that they do to me I do to them. A lot of times I'm surprised especially in the environment I live in that I haven't gotten shot shows that the kilcher I mean that I should definitely have happened and I'm surprised it hasn't
6cd
because getting angry saying things to people not thinking things through can really put you at risk
3gc
Excatly same thing I could send things I can do them for anger me to that point. It's the same thing as me getting them back for what they've said more so it could go and vice versa aspects. They could kill me kill them.
3gc
So Bethany, can you tell me what this week has looked like for you?
1irq
This week? Um, I don't know. I guess it was a little bit more productive than usual. But not really, I'm still just usual, dead to the world. You know, you know, I'm just in my room most of the day, I'm not really part of the world or part of my family. I'm just closed off in my own little sad universe.
0id
So you're feeling isolated from your family?
1irq
Yeah, just feeling really disconnected. Just really, I don't know. It's just been a really tough week with my husband. We've been fighting a lot as usual.
0id
So when you say you're feeling disconnected Can you explain to me more what that looks like?
1irq
Yeah, I guess. I'm just, I'm so tired all day and just exhausted and he has all these demands and all these things he wants me to do. And I just feel like I'm not capable of doing that. I can't even get myself out of bed in the morning. Myself supposed to do all the things he wants me to do. Just last night, came home yelling at me like usual and all the dishes are still in the sink and all the laundry was all on the bed. Like, I couldn't even tell him that like I looked online for jobs, which I was thought I should be proud of that I knew and no, I didn't find a job. So whatever It's that big of a deal. I just thought maybe like we could talk about that. But it was just feeling about shirts, maybe ironed and I just couldn't do any of it.
0id
So you feel that even though you made some progress by looking at them for jobs this week that you didn't feel much accomplishment from that because your husband didn't acknowledge it or appreciate it.
4crq
Yeah, he doesn't appreciate anything
6cd
How being not appreciated make you feel inside?
1irq
Just makes my whole body just ache just makes me feel empty. Like, if you can't appreciate the things that I do, and then why would I be motivated to do the things that he wants me to do? Like, how am I supposed to iron shirts when I can even get out of bed in the morning? You know It just makes me feel really just just empty, just miserable.
0id
I hear you saying that you're shutting down. And not only do I hear you saying that, like I can see you sitting here with me. That way you're sitting with your arms crossed, like I feel like you're closing yourself off To a lot of things to a lot of people.
4crq
Exactly
7ack
So for things to matter to you, and for you to feel good about even little progress steps you're making, you really need to have that acknowledged by your husband. Yeah. I mean, otherwise, what's the point? You know, if they don't have that support, all they do is point out the things I haven't done, they'll do something but it's all about what hasn't been done. Oh, you haven't back in two months, but they don't notice the things.
3gc
So I hear you saying that you're experiencing a lot of hurt. So bad thing. You're feeling all the skirt. You're feeling in ways recognizing who you are. You have all this laundry. vacuums do its chores. So what to do is wave comedian. Put it away somewhere for a little bit to be able to address all the issues. You try to pay put in a little jar and we'll call that trick jar.
3gc
It's hard. It's like it will disconnect for me. I just can't separate it from myself.
3gc
Okay. What do you think that that hurts trying to tell you?
1irq
Maybe it's just telling me that it's what I always do. I always try to avoid it
3gc
was the seller hurt, but maybe the hurt is important. We'll be able to come back to it once we push it away. So it's not going to be there forever. So if we do that,
3gc
I guess we could try this. No, it's, it's trying to tell me that. It's not gonna work. It's just like, it's just what I always do with it. I just try to avoid it.
3gc
Let's try doing this. He's trying to close your eyes. If you're doing breathing exercises here, take a deep breath in, Deep breath out, deep breath in, deep breath out imagine all the laundry, Husband, daughter this, put it outside in the hallway, very quiet. How's it feel?
1irq
A little bit more relaxed
0id
or is it in the hallway?
4crq
Just different things.
6cd
What are you What are you feeling right now?
1irq
Little relaxed
0id
but I don't have an agenda today. So whatever, Whatever comes to mind already feels important. We'll take a minute to think about it. Close your eyes and think about what you're feeling. So what are you feeling right now?
1irq
I guess what it really is. I feel guilty, even letting go that hurt I need that hurt. Hurt makes me feel guilty. I shouldn't feel so bad for even hurting.
0id
So, you feel guilty for not not worthy of feeling hurt not worthy
4crq
I feel guilty for even feeling hurt but I feel guilty that, I don't deserve happiness, but I know I probably deserve to feel better.
6cd
So I want to, I want to kind of dive into that little bit, That's arising between wanting to try something new.
10od
yeah, I guess
7ack
So, what I'm gonna do is I want you to think about this chair. I want you to picture yourself this is the side of you that says you deserve to be able to feel and that you don't deserve to be focused on yourself. Tell yourself about how it makes you feel be guilty.
10od
I just feel like I feel guilty for hurting because it makes me it forces me to just stay in bed and it makes me feel hurt makes me feel like I'm incapable of taking care of my family and I need to take care of my family And I just feel guilty because I can't do that.
3gc
First when I deserve it I deserve more than you want, You don't deserve to Be, feel guilty about being you know deserve to feel guilty about being hurt. You need to take care of your thing.
3gc
I need to Stop being so selfish, I need to stop being so selfish, I need to take care of them
3gc
If I Don't take care of them, They get upset?
4crq
That's why they're always mad at you because you don't take care of them selfish.
6cd
Does it make you feel yourself tells you that you're sad. It makes me sad its hurts me.
11orq
They Tell me I'm selfish. When you tell me I don't care about things I do. I'm trying
10od
Why don't you make me feel guilty?
1irq
I have needs to have needs need to be taken care of to know you're not taking care. Selfish doesn't allow me to feel good How's it feel when you hear that the hurt the pain Just wanted to step it up.
0id
So when you tell yourself that I am hurt yourself selfish, how does that feel?
1irq
It's just really confusing. Like I need to break out of this guilty feeling and just allow myself to hurt. I deserve to hurt. I deserve to have my needs met this well deserved
0id
So how does it make you feel the other self understands
4crq