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Tesla is up from 15 (Jan) to 109 (Feb) vehicles in Portugal!
Model 3 deliveries seems to have started strong in Portugal. Around 100 model 3 seems to have been delivered in February and I have already seen a blue one but couldn t take a photo :) The numbers come from the Automobile Association of Portugal (ACAP) that gets data from every manufacturer but there is no model specific data yet. I think this small country will have a great market for the 35k version when it finally arrives. Edit: [source](http: translate.google.com translate?js=n&amp sl=auto&amp tl=en&amp u=https: www.jornaldenegocios.pt empresas automovel detalhe tesla-vendeu-109-automoveis-em-portugal-em-fevereiro) (translated)
2019-03-02 12:26:51
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Portugal has some really strong incentives for buying an EV. Currently a company wanting to buy a model 3 can save almost 40% of the total price due to getting a full VAT refund from the IRS and also being excepted from pretty much every automobile related tax in the country. Also I ordered mine last week and the Tesla salesperson told me there have been no deliveries yet. The total amount of orders is around 150 model 3s and the earliest orders are scheduled for March. They told me directly that even though the website claims Delivery in March that I shouldn t expect mine before May.
2019-03-02 13:22:18
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Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration
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Model Y development and rumours
When the Model 3 was being designed there where plenty of interviews and shots of clay models and especially leaks regarding it overal look and equipment. (HUD anyone). Now with the model Y just about around the corner we still have little to no idea what the model Y looks like or even what its capabilities could be. Unless I am very much mistaken I have seen very little leaks or info shared. I find that a bit strange and tbh frustrating although I have no real rights to information. Is it a way to ensure model 3 sales or is there to little to see atm (I doubt that) or am I just not paying attention enough?
2019-01-25 19:51:38
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Tesla doesn t want to cannibalize Model 3 (yet).
2019-01-25 20:07:45
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Do you think it s common that people think you have to charge at dedicated chargers (or Superchargers) to charge a vehicle?
I think is a very common misconception. You charge at home overnight like a cell phone and you have a full tank every morning! I know it s a no brainer to many of us but I get the feeling it s why a lot of people think electric vehicles won t be successful. The infrastructure is there already.
2014-07-18 13:43:28
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Agreed. Some of the people I talk to have seen the public charging stations with the J1772 plugs (or other adapters) and they assume that you need special infrastructure to charge. They re often surprised when I mention that realistically you only need a dryer outlet (240 volt) in the garage. Then they go on to ask whether a regular 120 volt would work and I say that it will work if there s no other option but it s painfully slow. The other big misconception is that people assume you have to charge the car for 8 hours a day which is inconvenient and uses a lot of electricity (which is still cheaper than gas). In those cases I explain that you only charge for the range that you ve used. I drive about 60 miles a day and by using my 240 volt outlet at home it only takes about 2 hours (30 miles of range per 1 hour of charge) to replenish the energy I ve used. It s fun to see the lightbulbs go off in their heads when they realize EVs are more practical than they thought.
2014-07-18 14:38:56
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Anyone know a good transportation company to move a Tesla?
Officially joining the club and purchasing my Model S from a private seller tomorrow! I need to arrange transport and I m concerned some companies may not know how to move a Tesla or if there really is that much difference between them and ICE cars I know they can t be towed (flatbed only) but not sure what other special cases there are. Either way i was wondering if any of you could recommend a good car moving service that know how to deal with Teslas. I need to move a Model S from Texas to Arizona. Thanks!
2017-04-12 05:29:57
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This is your chance. Drive it.
2017-04-12 10:36:03
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Model 3 phone key never works
EDIT: Fixed it by unpairing everything uninstalling the Tesla app resetting everything then set everything back up. Thanks all for the advice! My phone key for my Model 3 unlocks my car about 5% of the time without taking my phone out. The rest of the time (i.e. almost every single time) I have to take my phone out of my pocket and go to the home screen for the phone key to work. I usually don t have to actually open the Tesla app. I have an iPhone X on the latest software and Bluetooth is always on. Background app refresh is on for the Tesla app. I rarely force close the Tesla app. My Model 3 is on 2018.24.8. I have tried the suggested phone repairing steps and resets multiple times. I love my Model 3 and I love Tesla but this is getting annoying. Fix the issue or give me a key fob. I know Tesla is trying to innovate and rethink how we use cars but in its current state this isn t better than a key fob. I can t even unlock my car by just feeling the unlock button in my pocket like a regular key fob. I know software is constantly being improved but the car has been out for over a year now. Something this basic should have been fixed. Anybody else have these issues? Unfortunately I m bracing for the downvotes (even though I m a Tesla fanboy).
2018-08-01 17:45:52
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This is incredible because I have an iPhoneX and it has worked flawlessly with the Model 3 I have. Sorry you are having such a rough go of it man.
2018-08-01 17:49:40
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Model 3 phone key issues
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Model Y RWD Order Page Updated
I ve been curious about my order as the FAQ Page for the model Y says that the RWD is not currently scheduled for production. So I signed into my account and clicked manage order. It then took me to a screen that said Prepare for Delivery . I called support because before seeing this I was contemplating trying to change to an AWD and it directed me to a local service center. They didn t have an update but said they will probably have more info after deliveries begin in March. I haven t seen anyone say they had those results so I thought I d mention it here.
2020-02-27 19:32:51
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Stories like this kind of make me think Tesla just set all of the statuses to Prepare for delivery by accident.
2020-02-27 20:03:53
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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Something I used to enjoy now ruined by owning a Tesla
I travel for work and pleasure several times a year. &amp #x200B I used to enjoy renting a car because it was always a nicer car than my 2004 Honda. &amp #x200B But now I have a Model 3. And every rental car I get pales in comparison across the board. * Performance * I ve yet to rent a car that holds a candle to my Model 3 in performance. * Comfort * Even the nicer cars don t cradle me like my Model 3. * Ease of use * Last car I rented was a Nissan Rouge. I counted over 50 different buttons plus the touchscreen options. I was completely overwhelmed after getting used to my 2 button Model 3. &amp #x200B So thanks Tesla for ruining my car rental experience!
2019-07-07 22:49:20
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Ha. I rented a car and kept hitting the wipers to try and drive. Forgot to turn on headlights. Left the car running. Forgot how those ICE POS work.
2019-07-07 22:51:45
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Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences
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My robotaxi driver (FSD) is rated as a poor driver (53%) by the State Farm App
With all the talk about safety scores I think it s always important to continue to rate the source. If robotaxis are to become a thing and they will all have the same driver that driver needs to be a good driver. I don t know the best app to use but State Farm has one that appears to be good and free so I tried using that to rate FSD as a driver. I ran the first one this morning which was a 2 mile commute from home to my office. 10.12.2. The 2 mile commute has two left turns one at a stop sign one at a light and two right turns one at a stop sign and one at a light. 7:30 am moderate traffic. In that short trip I got 9 alerts. 4 rapid acceleration 3 hard braking and 2 sharp cornering. One really pissed off driver in another car. 53% score. While I appreciate the focus on complicated unprotected left turns and other sexy AI problems I think the autopilot team needs to address simple things like not freaking out my family and the other drivers around me. I looked this up before posting and see only posts on Tesla s Safe Driving Score. Does anyone else use a strategy app to rate FSD as a driver?
2022-06-02 12:45:29
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How does the same app rate your driving normally? I had considered signing up for one of those programs through my current insurance company but I had read that in general they penalize EVs because regenerative braking is detected as too harsh.
2022-06-02 14:27:03
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Delivery questions [EU]
Hey all! Recently I moved to Germany from outside of the EU. I have dreamed of owning a Tesla for quite some time now (there is no EV infrastructure in my home country) so it was pretty easy to choose a car for my new life in Germany and I placed an order for a black Model Y Performance in late March. I specifically chose that configuration because it was the only one showing the ETA on April 22. Other configurations showed August 22 at the earliest. So my question is: I already understood that delays happen with Teslas (it s 1st May already haha). But I wanted to know what I should expect. Can the delivery be delayed for 1 2 or even more months? I tried to contact Tesla in Munich but the only thing they said was that we needed to wait for the car to be matched and they didn t have any more information. Sorry if this is a stupid question. I am just used to ordering other car brands and they always give you a new ETA if your order was delayed for some reason.
2022-05-01 09:45:17
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Those are the cars made in the new Berlin factory. It s still a bit unclear the timings and any potential delays. If you are not there yet I would suggest to follow the TFF (Tesla Fahrer und Freunde) forum where you get all the good insights of what s happening: [https: tff-forum.de t model-y-performance-bestellung-und-vorgesehene-auslieferung-in-q1-q2-2022 151529](https: tff-forum.de c tesla-model-y 10)
2022-05-01 09:57:19
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Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration
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Daily Discussion Question and Answer Experiences and Support Thread
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2021-04-29 10:00:18
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How is tesla able to keep this model S delay nonsense a secret? I ve never seen such a hyped large public company with rabid following able to manage complete blackout like this. It s honestly pretty impressive if not totally infuriating. I ve been waiting 142 days since my tesla order... Someone get me a drink.
2021-04-29 11:26:58
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My 2 hour 30 mile review
Can t stop smiling. Got home and just sat in my car for an hour listening to music and blasting the AC on this ridiculous 110 degree day. Can t wait to sit in my hour and half commute next Monday! [obligatory baby post (+ child)](https: i.imgur.com 7nf32yl.jpg)
2018-07-06 21:58:36
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Did you take delivery in Costa Mesa? I believe our cars were parked in the exact same delivery spot (you turn right after you enter from the show room and turn right again around the corner). I took delivery on Tuesday
2018-07-06 22:15:03
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Floor model vs order
I need some help here. I ve ordered my car but there s a similar almost identical one at a show room. The showroom model has 3600 miles on it and they re giving a $7900 adjustment on it. So my question is is that worth it?
2018-06-27 23:29:25
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Keep in mind that 90% of those miles will be people slamming the accelerator as part of a test drive. Those 3600 miles have probably been incredibly hard driving. Make your decision accordingly.
2018-06-27 23:39:11
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Canada (Ontario) cost of ownership calculations
I m a data nerd as well and found the spreadsheets provided by people so far didn t either answer my question(s) or weren t tailored from my region. I m in Ontario (Canada) and wanted to see how much a TM3 would cost me to buy and what the cost of ownership would be over x years if I were to replace my current ICE (2016 Impreza). Assumptions: * CAD$20k down payment * Ontario EV incentives are lump-sum paid back as a cheque after the car is purchased. It does not come off the price of the car. * No supercharging outside charging costs: all charging is done at home * Gas cost hydro &amp interest rates are fixed: unreasonable I know but too difficult to predict model * Yearly mileage driven and gas electric mileage are fixed: I extrapolated my current yearly mileage and since-day-1 gas mileage (7.6L 100km combined over 12 500km) * No maintenance costs factored in to the cost of ownership calculations * Total cost of ownership is the sum of down payment loan interest and charging cost less incentives and fuel and oil change savings from switching from ICE to TM3 Here is a screenshot of the data with my preferred options selected (green boxes are those where the user provides input data): http: i.imgur.com FMpFBGD.png Turns out that after 10 years of owning and driving a TM3 vs my Impreza it would ve cost me just over CAD$55 000. The savings from fuel and oil changes alone is just over $1 500 year. Also with CAD$20k down the biweekly payments of CAD$345 seem somewhat reasonable for a CAD$71k car. If there are any other Canadians that would like to play around with this let me know and I ll share the sheet. **edit** I updated the screenshot to reflect more tangible stats: cost per month &amp CO2 emissions prevented (compared to my current ICE). I ll share the sheet when I get home this evening.
2017-08-01 18:04:07
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Is it common to get a car loan for 7 yrs? US is much lower (4 or 5). Be careful about being upside down on the loan when something you can t control happens (like someone crashes into you).
2017-08-01 18:10:07
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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What s coming: MobileEyeQ4
Thought I d break down what we know about MobileEye EyeQ4 chip that s coming for Tesla. From here: http: www.prnewswire.com news-releases moving-closer-to-automated-driving-mobileye-unveils-eyeq4-system-on-chip-with-its-first-design-win-for-2018-300045242.html Chipset: ...the EyeQ4® consists of 14 computing cores out of which 10 are specialized vector accelerators with extremely high utilization for visual processing and understanding. The EyeQ4® will feature four CPU cores with four hardware threads each coupled with six cores of Mobileye s innovative and well-proven Vector Microcode Processors (VMP)... The EyeQ4® will also introduce novel accelerator types – two Multithreaded Processing Cluster (MPC) cores and two Programmable Macro Array (PMA) cores. Processing: ..more than 2.5 teraflops within a low-power (approximately 3W) automotive grade system-on-chip. EyeQ4®-based ADAS [has] the ability to use cutting-edge computer vision algorithms like Deep Layered Networks and Graphical Models while processing information from 8 cameras simultaneously at 36 frames per second. Sensors: The EyeQ4® will accept multiple camera inputs from a trifocal front-sensing camera configuration surround-view-systems of four wide field of view cameras a long range rear-facing camera and information from multiple radars and scanning beam lasers scanners. Release: First test hardware with the full suite of applications including active safety suite of customer functions environmental modeling (for each of the 8 cameras) path planning for hands-free driving and fusion with sensors is expected to be available in the second quarter of 2016. Series production is supported for early 2018 start of production.
2016-07-11 02:25:36
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Thoughts on whether this will be available for the Model 3 since full production isn t scheduled to start until 2018?
2016-07-11 03:30:36
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Weekly Investing Thread
This will post every Sunday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to comment your own investor links during the week. This thread is specifically intended for TSLA related posts. This thread is meant only for casual discussion regarding TSLA stock. Only generic Investing-related topics will be allowed as posts. Detailed commentary should be discussed here. This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance.
2017-10-01 11:12:57
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Expecting a dip when the Q3 delivery numbers are published. Based on the anecdotal evidence on Model 3 deliveries I am not convinced 1500 Model 3 s were produced in September.
2017-10-01 13:19:43
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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How are you putting away $$ now for the Tesla 3 since you have 18 months to start saving.. Savings account? Investments? Stock?
Since we have around 18 months I m curious to how everyone is going about saving money for it.. investments? simple savings? tin can in the backyard? Also how much are you putting back each month for it? Do you hope to have little payments or fully paid off?
2016-04-09 03:38:57
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Autodrafting $400 bucks a month out of the checking account into a seperate savings account. That way I don t need to think about it. This will give me a 20% down + - on a $42k purchase in 24 months.
2016-04-09 04:04:30
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
8,070
How to contact service center support
I recently had a terrible service center experience and as a result would like to submit my concerns to whomever at Tesla is in charge of customer support or communications. I left the SC this morning angry and I don t intend on going back there. I m making an appointment for an SC at another city. In the meantime apart from venting to strangers on the internet about what happened (which is not my MO) how do I transmit this experience to Tesla? The online chat seems to have been disabled and the “[email protected]” email is also deactivated. Many thanks. Edit: I got an email just now from Tesla saying that they heard Inhad had a poor experience and wanted to reach out to see if there was anything they could do and were happy to talk tomorrow. I have to say I m impressed by that. Taking them up on their offer.
2020-03-09 17:34:15
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Good luck on your next service appointment. I m scared and upset that overall customer service is so poor. Do we think they re making an active effort to completely overhaul things?
2020-03-09 18:05:26
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Tesla Service Experience Feedback
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Homelink is not accessible with the new backup camera update
Hello guys On our Model X we have an issue with the homelink button not being reachable anymore once the rearfacing camera is triggered. We have to back in our entryway for \~ 100 ft. to reach the garage and manually trigger homelink since it only works when parking forward. Did any of you find a way to keep the homelink displayed ? At this time we have to close the camera display trigger homelink and pull the camera back which reverts to the old one at that point. Not a very good experience in my opinion.. what s your experience ?
2020-07-08 18:01:49
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Crazy. Exact opposite for Model 3. The homelink button blocks part of the rear view video when reversing.
2020-07-08 18:13:32
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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J1722 adapter storage
Just got my MS. Needless to say I am excited. Will be relying this sub for many questions. But the first one as the title indicates is about the adapter. I will using J1722 for the foreseeable future has anyone found the best place to store the adapter for easy access. I am trying to avoid the trunks. What has worked for you?
2017-01-17 19:44:50
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For frequent access I stick mine in the center console where the adjustable cup holders are (under the sliding door) - there s a spot between the holders where it will fit without rolling around. Otherwise it lives in the glove box.
2017-01-17 19:52:57
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Any Tesla fans watching the Faraday &amp Future flagship car unveil today?
Supposedly it should be the direct competitor to Tesla. Which is a good thing as I feel that Tesla has no actual direct competition and a direct one should motivate Tesla to do better. Like Apple and Google. It is even said that the prototype won against a S100D. Link to stream s page here: https: www.ff.com en Edit: It has started.
2017-01-03 23:28:51
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WHEN THE DEMO DOESN T WORK I CAN T UNDERSTAND THE VP **WHAT S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW**
2017-01-04 03:11:29
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Sell my 2016 Model S 70D or figure out another solution?
When I pull into my driveway there is a VERY steep grade. The undercarriage scrapes pretty badly. I have tried to look under the car with a flashlight but cannot see any marks but I am assuming over time as the tires wear and suspension settles it will get progressively worse. I have been considering selling my 70D with regular suspension and getting another model with the air suspension package. I looked online and it seems there isn t a single 2016 Model S for resale in the entire US. Should I instead try and transfer the lease asking for cash to cover the down payment sell it outright or just accept my fate and try to fix the problem? I assume I will need to have my driveway graded in some manner so where the driveway slopes into the garage there is more ground clearance. This is not cheap. I had a quite and it was about $4000 and he said as they are doing it there might be other complications as I have two barrier walls on the right left side which are bracing walls for the front of my home which is built into the side of a hill. I can attach pictures if anyone think it might help them comprehend the problem. http: s32.postimg.org f87dflbmd 20160516_180423.jpg http: s32.postimg.org mcts2d89h 20160516_180431.jpg http: s32.postimg.org 687d954wl 20160516_180528.jpg http: s32.postimg.org w511lr8k5 20160516_180534.jpg http: s32.postimg.org sf1esuwph 20160516_180548.jpg
2016-05-16 19:42:40
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Maybe [something like this would help?](http: www.griotsgarage.com product curb+bridge.do?code=PPCPLG&amp gclid=Cj0KEQjw3-W5BRCymr_7r7SFt8cBEiQAsLtM8uNhLAiTaXzZSZK8dtGEfcZh2NV-Dkr86WvErX0_djYaAlqf8P8HAQ)
2016-05-16 20:20:45
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Homelink app button and V10
My Model 3 finally received Version 10 tonight and one of the features in the release notes was that if you have a garage door programmed with Homelink that it would show up in the app. I can t find it anywhere. Has anyone else gotten this to work? I know it was is available if you had FSD but this update was supposed to make it available in all cases. All of the other app features are showing as available (thaw mode window vent etc.) but I can t seem to locate a Honelink button anywhere. I do have two different garage doors programmed to Homelink could this be why?
2019-10-03 02:46:02
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Looks like it s available only to those who have EAP or FSD. Don t see it in my app. I have HW3 AP no FSD. I have homelink and a single garage door programmed into it. No homelink button in app though (other new stuff is there - vent defrost etc).
2019-10-03 05:12:48
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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My 1600 Mile Roadtrip Data and Overview.
Some background: I own a Model 3 AWD with aero wheels. A friend of mine was moving to Phoenix and asked me to help him move his last few boxes and him to Phoenix and since I had a few free days I decided hell why not! The whole trip was 1650 miles (from Sacramento to Phoenix and back). The consumption for this trip was 290 wh mi and I used 478 kWhs. Supercharger stops: This is the first time I have ever taken a road trip this long electric or gasoline car. I usually fly if its more than 600 miles. So this was new to me. Starting out I did have a bit of range anxiety as it was in the high 30s low 40s as I drove out at 5am. But after the first supercharger there was no anxiety anymore. We had a total of 6 stops down (quicker smaller charges) and I had 4 stops going back (by myself took longer stops). Autopilot: Holy. Hell. At least 95% of the road trip was on autopilot but it feels like it was the full 100%. NoA performed flawlessly and I did not have to do any driving (pretty much). Greatest purchase I ve ever made in my life. It takes you from being a driver to a passenger with a couple duties. Enjoying scenery and views are so much more enjoyable and the brain fatigue is gone. Overall I love my car even more if that s even possible. Passed 7 000 total miles in my car since picking Maeve up in August and CANNOT wait to put more. Simply amazing. Feel free to ask questions! Just wanted to share my little trip. Pictures attached below! https: imgur.com a 601wWwl
2019-01-15 23:56:28
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It s stories like this that push me further and further into my purchase.
2019-01-16 00:07:27
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Could i just test drive a tesla if i have no intention to buy it soon?
I would love to try a tesla but i dont (and probably never will) have the money for one and i dont know anyone who owns one. Also i live in the middle of canada and the closest supercharger is 300km away
2016-01-22 05:57:47
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I booked a fan drive : told them up front that I was interested in the Model 3 but would love to drive the Model S. I got one of the junior sales staff who needed to polish her spiel and we had a fun half hour of amazing the-future-is-today! I plan to book another fan drive each year until my Model 3 arrives. Hopefully they ll let me back in the seat :D
2016-01-22 10:02:08
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Tesla test drive experiences
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Feature Request: Sentry Mode Classification
It would be nice if sentry mode could classify the videos it records into two categories: touched car didn t touch car. I get in the car and have a bunch of sentry mode reports but they re literally just people walking by not even looking at the car. I d be much more interested in knowing whether or they touched the car so I could view the video with an actual purpose beyond watching strangers go about their day.
2021-05-19 01:42:06
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I would be happy with better scrubbing during sentry video playback
2021-05-19 02:19:50
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Issues with Sentry Mode
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Tesla in movies bullets
Saw my first Tesla in a movie today getting shot up. (cold persuit) Having seen lithium batteries after they are punctured. And yes I know the batteries are supposedly stored at the safest position in the car and hopefully aren t likely to explode catch fire. I saw myth busters shooting at a car and proving they don t explode if you shot the tank but what about Tesla s? Of you riddle a Tesla with machine gun fire. What are the batteries likely to do?
2019-06-02 12:56:57
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Catch fire it s happened in real life already. They even tried blaming Tesla for it.
2019-06-02 13:08:01
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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If you paid for a MCU upgrade. You are entitled to your old MCU in the state of California.
On a recent post a discussion took place regarding MCU upgrades and FSD package upgrades and how Tesla is supposedly throwing away old MCUs which contain consumers data on it. Users commented stating they asked for their old MCU back but were denied that right. If your MCU 1 was not replaced under warranty and you paid for that upgrade you are entitled to your old MCU back. Please consult your lawayer for verification as I am not one. However the California Givernment website seems pretty clear. If I were an owner getting my MCU upgraded this is what I would be referencing when talking to a service advisor. A generation 1 MCU can be worth money and is worth fighting to keep in my opinion. The only area in which Tesla does not have to give it back is under warranty. When it comes to FSD it is up for debate on if FSD is considered a warranty. Especially since MCU 1 didn t fail to operate in this scenario. This only applies if Tesla replaced MCU 1 for free upgrading to MCU 2 for purposes of FSD capability. In the state of California: https: www.bar.ca.gov Consumer Auto_Repair_Guide.aspx Under “Know your Rights” &gt All auto repair shops in California must be registered with the Bureau of Automotive Repair and every repair shop must post this sign to inform customers of their rights. If you don t see this sign ask about it. &gt THIS ESTABLISHMENT IS REGISTERED WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR ACT OF 1974 A CUSTOMER IS ENTITLED TO &gt A WRITTEN ESTIMATE FOR REPAIR WORK. &gt A DETAILED INVOICE OF WORK DONE AND PARTS SUPPLIED. And then finally &gt RETURN OF REPLACED PARTS IF REQUESTED AT THE TIME A WORK ORDER IS PLACED.
2020-05-03 23:22:11
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Just be aware of a possible core charge. Tesla can make the argument that the cost of replacement incorporates the returned part and ask for an additional payment if you choose to keep it. This is a common practice in the auto industry.
2020-05-03 23:32:27
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Why haven t YOU bought a Tesla yet?
I just bought a car and it wasn t a Tesla. My apartment complex has no electric car charging facilities or ability to get them from what I can tell. The lack of supercharging network today and lack of all wheel drive finally made me totally write off the idea. Not to mention it was just past my budget line but the lack of gas cost made me consider it anyway. Why haven t you?
2013-05-31 01:23:28
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I m actually really excited because I have a decent used car that should last me a good number of years yet and I make a decent salary - so by the time Tesla gets the cost down for Gen III I ll have an older car that I ll be wanting to replace and enough money saved to buy a new car!
2013-05-31 04:54:24
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Model 3 Delivery Phone Call
Just received a call from Tesla that my Model 3 is ready for delivery. I placed the order on Nov 24 and it said 4 weeks on the website at the time reality was slightly over 2 weeks. VIN showed up online last Friday (#1735 if anyone cares). The only location option for delivery in LA is in Marina Del Rey. I live in Orange County and they won t let me take delivery in Costa Mesa or Buena Park. Probably can t get it until this weekend. :( Edit: Got the final invoice. At least they are charging me Orange County sales tax (7.75%) instead of the higher LA County tax. California DMV fees are $466 ($374 license fee and $92 registration fee).
2017-12-12 02:29:58
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I think the Model 3 is more important than work
2017-12-12 02:32:40
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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Battery Drain on Model S 70D
So I recently purchased a Model S 70D (September 4th) and I have noticed that the battery drain is pretty terrible. On a 90% charge I am expected to achieve 344 km (yes I am in Canada) of distance but looking at the actual distance traveled I sometimes have a discrepancy of over 80 km. I was wondering if this is considered to be normal? Or what things I can do to prevent this from occurring. I do not accelerate super fast and drive like a maniac either I would say I am a conservative driver typically not going over 10 km over the speed limit and rarely using brakes at all.
2015-10-03 21:24:16
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TLDR: Yes its normal. You are comparing EPA rated range to actual range. (In Canada Tesla uses EPA rated range) These are not the same thing. The 70D has 240 miles = 385 km EPA rated range. However EPA tests (Environmental Protection Agency) are too optimistic. This is not Tesla s fault. In Europe the rated range tests are even more unrealistic. Achieving about 83% of EPA rated rated on average is normal. The question about Wh km is a good question. Instead giving the other numbers you should just tell your Wh km and ask others what they are getting. On average 70D achieves 195 Wh km according to survey data. MS 85 achieves 214 Wh km. Wh km to electric cars is same as mpg to gas cars. However your Wh km will be affected by lots of factors. The most important factor is speed. The higher your speed the less your range will be. Even dropping from 130 km h to 120 km h makes a huge difference. Other factors are elevation and wind. 70D range numbers are as follows: 442 km NEDC rated range (used everywhere outside North America) 385 km EPA rated range (used in North America) 343 km typical range (used everywhere outside North America) 320 km realistic range
2015-10-04 00:44:48
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Trade in values and process of buying.
I recently received a quote for my used trade in car and the quote states that I have 7 days to apply it to the purchase of a Tesla however I don t see any option to apply that credit while going thru the motions of buying it online. Is this done at another time?
2020-08-15 19:25:51
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Weird. I did mine 2 days ago and I have 30 days. Model 3 for Model Y. They didn t offer enough money so I m cancelling the deal.
2020-08-15 20:13:09
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Feature request: Heated seat pre-warming!
I just realized the new app update shows when the battery heater is running during pre-heat conditions. What is still missing is the ability to turn on your heated seats steering wheel heater. It seems like a trivial task but who else is with me!?
2017-12-26 22:58:03
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I m surprised most cars don t have this already...
2017-12-27 01:11:41
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Tesla Climate Control Issues
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Daily Discussion + Support Thread - October 30
**Use this recurring thread for:** - Basic Questions and Answers - Vehicle Help and Support - Topics of the day or week - Sightings Vehicle Customization Vanity Plates - Orders or Deliveries - Shop Items Discussion (Toys Apparel Gifts etc) **Range Issues Vehicle Issues or Bugs?** If you are concerned about range [read more here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments ddcnoh after_11_months_and_18200_miles_i_have_7_battery f2fmu9r ) this is a common question. If you have a concern about a potential bug [check out our Support page](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support). **Gigathread of Resources** Check out the [Gigathread of Resources](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments cdxuwh gigathread_of_resources ) thread for more recent resources and highlights. **Why buy a Tesla?** [Here is a long list of reasons](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki topreasons) why owners love their cars and [here you can find the most recent software updates](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) rolling out to vehicles (including megathreads for each version). Looking for useful sites that are often talked about? [There s a wiki page](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) for that too. **Cleaning Detailing Tips?** Check out r AutoDetailing they are much more comprehensive. **Looking for comparisons?** Searching the sub first really helps as there are likely MANY discussions on a similar topic (of which the answers you re looking for likely did not change much). Searching vs. could definitely help you find past threads. There is also a [comparisons spreadsheet](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Rv464J1RsXNBNddy008IPsQfVrO4kHPh_L4HWKpG4bo edit#gid=0) we support. **Other helpful links** - [Discord Chat](https: discord.gg 7WuEqAW) | [Most Common Acronyms](http: decronym.xyz acronyms TeslaMotors) | [Popular Podcasts](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki podcasts) **Related Communities** - r TeslaLounge | r TeslaInvestorsClub | r TeslaPorn | r TeslaClassifieds | r Superchargers | r TeslaAutonomy | r TeslaModel3 **Wiki Pages** - [Overview](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki index) | [About](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki about) | [FAQ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki faq) | [Accessories](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki accessories) | [Did You Know?](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki didyouknow) | [Useful Sites](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) | [Software Megathreads](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) | [Top Reasons](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki topreasons) | [Support](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support) | [Moderation](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki moderation) **Please be kind** [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. If you want to share a photo you can easily create an image link at [Imgur Upload](https: upload.imgur.com) and include it in your comment. Find past discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22&amp restrict_sr=on&amp include_over_18=on&amp sort=new&amp t=all).
2019-10-30 09:09:14
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I am curious about the regenerative braking. Why does it brake as soon as I take my foot off the accelerator? I understand it is trying to convert the kinetic energy of the car back into charging the battery a little bit however there are lots of times when I take my foot off the brake so that I could coast a little bit. It seems to be more efficient to just coast for a while (if that s what I can do given the situation) rather than take my foot off the accelerator have the car effectively brake (while converting that energy back to electricity) only to have to accelerate again to pick up more speed to make up for the braking. I don t know much about drivetrains but it seems like a better way to handle it would be to only have the regen braking kick in if the brake is engaged for example otherwise it just seems inefficient? By the way I realize I can set regen braking to low. EDIT: My question was only about the physics efficiency of the coasting vs. regen breaking system. I have no problem with one-pedal driving in fact I have come to prefer it after getting used to it. redphan answered my question below.
2019-10-30 13:42:06
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla v. Michigan — Settlement Proposal filed
The proposed settlement between Tesla and Michigan was publicly filed today. Key provisions: &gt Neither M.C.L. § 445.1574(1)(q) nor any other provision of Michigan law prohibits a subsidiary that is wholly owned by Tesla (“Tesla Service Subsidiary”) from owning or operating one or more service and repair facilities in the state of Michigan so long as Tesla itself does not directly own the facilities &gt Under Michigan law (including M.C.L. § 445.1574(1)) Tesla s status as a manufacturer of motor vehicles does not prevent employees of Tesla from performing warranty recall service or repair work in Michigan so long as the work is not performed at a motor vehicle repair facility that is directly owned by Tesla itself and that those employees are properly certified as specialty or master mechanics as appropriate under M.C.L. § 257.1311. In particular neither M.C.L. § 445.1574(1)(p) nor § 445.1574(1)(q) nor any other provision of Michigan law prohibits employees of Tesla from performing warranty recall service or repair work at a facility owned or operated by the Tesla Service Subsidiary on vehicles owned or leased by Tesla customers &gt No provision in M.C.L. § 445.1574(1) nor any other provision of Michigan law prohibits Tesla from delivering vehicles to Michigan residents in Michigan (whether directly through a subsidiary using an independent carrier or otherwise) including assisting them with vehicle trade-ins so long as legal title for any vehicles sold by Tesla transfers outside the state of Michigan consistent with M.C.L. §§ 440.2106(1) and 440.2401 &gt Under Michigan law employees of Tesla or the Tesla Service Subsidiary are permitted to inspect prepare and if necessary repair such vehicles in the state of Michigan before they are delivered to the Michigan resident and &gt Neither M.C.L. § 445.1574(1)(h) nor § 445.1574(1)(i) nor any other provision of Michigan law prohibits Tesla from operating one or more galleries in the State to educate customers and facilitate transactions out-of-state so long as Tesla does not transfer legal title to the vehicles within the State consistent with M.C.L. §§ 440.2106(1) and 440.2401. Permissible activities at such a gallery include (but are not limited to) conducting demonstration drives discussing prices service financing leasing and trade-ins with potential customers helping potential customers configure a vehicle facilitating ordering and purchase of a vehicle for which legal title transfers out-of-state and facilitating customer transaction paperwork for a sale for which legal title transfers out-of-state TL DR Tesla still can t “sell” in Michigan but its Galleries can do most dealer-like activity now including test drives pricing discussions and facilitating online purchasing. Tesla can deliver to Michigan buyers *in Michigan* but technically must “sell” on paper in another state (I m guessing it will be California like is done for Texas customers currently). Tesla can create a wholly owned subsidiary to run service centers in Michigan.
2020-01-22 20:50:46
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They really should change the outdated law in stead of setting up hoops.
2020-01-22 21:16:04
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Anyone else feel like they know CA plate 63277 better than their own?
Well maybe not my own car plate but this point I know it better than my wife s plate # that s for sure. I guess that s what staring at weeks of photos and video all with the same plate will do to you :)
2017-05-03 18:23:33
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As obsessed with the Model 3 as I am I can t say I ve ever actually read the license plate. I ve always just looked at the car s features.
2017-05-03 18:30:21
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Building a Case Against the National Automobile Dealers Association and the Commonwealth of Virginia
Are there any Tesla owners who are also residents of Virginia or who are lawyers who might know what to do after reading the following? ... **Acronyms that I will be using below to make my typing life easier** **KBB** = Kelly Blue Book **NADA** = the National Automobile Dealers Association **PPT** = Personal Property Tax **Background Info** I recently received the personal property tax bill for my Chevy Volt for my time as a resident of Arlington VA earlier in the year. I am now a resident of the District of Columbia (as of July). My car is a 2017 Chevrolet Volt LT (Purchased in July 2016) with just over 12 200 miles on the odometer at the time of writing. Current Kelly Blue Book Trade-in Value is roughly $20 000. **The Phone Call** This past week I called Virginia to report that as of July I was no longer a resident of Virginia. I was told a new PPT bill would be in the mail shortly to reflect a smaller tax liability. However before hanging up I inquired as to why they had valued my Volt at $29 900 – which is a good $8-10k higher than what KBB quotes as the fair market value for my vehicle. I was told that Virginia doesn t use KBB for used car values they use values from the “National Automobile Dealer s Association Used Car Guide.” … which instantly made me suspicious. So I ask the representative to direct me to the part of Arlington County s website where I could find out how to dispute the value given to my vehicle thanked her for her time and hung up. She directed me [here](https: taxes.arlingtonva.us vehicles vehicle-tax-appeals ) **My Subsequent Research** First I wanted to see the specific steps for disputing the inflated valuation for my vehicle. The steps are as follows: *1. Have your vehicle individually appraised by an expert appraiser (e.g. car dealer insurance appraiser car auctioneer or automobile mechanic). The written appraisal must:* *- Be on the appraiser s letterhead - Include the appraiser s name address phone number and signature - Describe the vehicle s condition on January 1 of the assessment s tax year - List the specific conditions that make your vehicle s worth lower than the clean loan value listed in the N.A.D.A. Official Used Car Guide (Eastern January 1 Edition) (e.g. excessive rust body damage missing engine — excess mileage alone is not a sufficient reason) - List each condition that existed on January 1 and the amount that condition contributed to your vehicle s clean loan value reduction* *2. Submit the appraisal and a completed Notice of Appeal of Vehicle Valuation Personal Property Assessment form to the Commissioner of Revenue.* *The Commissioner will review the application then notify you in writing of her decision. Appealing your assessment doesn t guarantee that your personal property tax assessment will be lowered.* I then tried finding my vehicles value on [NADA s website](http: www.nadaguides.com ). What I found is that new car values are super easy to find but used car values are a lot more buried on the page. What s more is that used car values are also hidden behind a $25 paywall. Why are the values that are dictating my tax liability not public information? **My Visits to Dealers** I spent Saturday Morning visiting three Chevrolet Dealers in the DC area. My original plan was to visit 4 dealers asking 2 dealers for appraisals as if I were going to sell the car and the other 2 for appraisals that would meet the standards for disputing the inflated PPT value. (I wanted to see if I would receive the higher NADA value if I asked for an appraisal for tax purposes). That plan quickly fell apart with my visit to dealer number two. (Normal appraisal at Dealer 1 went smoothly and I was given a figure very much in line with KBB value). Upon arriving at the second Chevy Dealership I was directed to a female associate. When I explained that I wanted an appraisal for tax purposes her demeanor changed - she became agitated and downright unhelpful. I was informed that I was the second person in two days to ask for this. She proceeds to log on to her computer and start calculating a KBB value not even wanting to walk outside to look at my Volt. I told her that I didn t drive to a dealership to get the valuation I could ve done from my couch at home. At my insistence she rolls her eyes and agrees to walk with me to my car to take a look. After less than 30 seconds with no more than a peek through the window or asking for the VIN number we walk back inside to her desk. She writes down the “good” and “very good” KBB values on a post it note and pushes it my way. I tell her that I am going to need something more official as the instructions on Arlington County s Website say that the quote needs to be on an official dealer letterhead. She tells me that she won t be able to help me with that. At this point losing patience I ask to speak with her manager. With yet another eye roll she picks up her phone and gives him a call. After a 15 second call she makes it clear that the manager doesn t even want to come onto the sales floor to meet me saying “he is not going to sign anything for you.” At this point I thank her for her time snag her business card and walk out. I get to the third dealership and abandon the plan to pretend to be interested in selling my car. I go to the help desk and am directed to a bunch of guys sitting behind a long desk. One of them says he can help me with an appraisal. When I explain that I would like to get an appraisal for tax purposes again the feeling of the interaction changes. Although this time I m granted the courtesy of a real appraisal. The guy does a real check of the exterior and interior of the vehicle scans the placard on the edge of the drivers door using an app on his phone and we head back inside. After leaving me at his desk he goes to talk to that same bunch of guys he had been sitting with when I first explained my situation. The man comes back after a good 5 minute talk with his coworkers. He gives me a real appraisal that is very much in line with KBB value but refuses to put it on any kind of dealer letterhead “List the specific conditions that make your vehicle s worth lower than the clean loan value listed in the NADA guidebook…” or “List each condition that existed on January 1 and the amount that condition contributed to your vehicle s clean loan value reduction.” OR sign anything. It was clear that no one on the team wanted their name attached to any kind of appraisal that would be used in a dispute. So after 2 hours wasted and no useable appraisal attained I drove home. In summary the first dealer appraised my vehicle at $19 000. The second dealer gave me KBB values. The third dealer appraised my vehicle at $17 000. (The salesman winked when he said we low balled it for you ). None of these appraisals are anywhere near the $29 900 that the Commonwealth of Virginia NADA say it s worth. More importantly none of these appraisals follow the guidelines laid out by Virginia for a proper dispute of value. **Problems** - NADA is providing the Commonwealth of Virginia with inflated used car valuations. - The NADA used car valuations are buried on their website and hidden behind a paywall – in other words they re not put up for public scrutiny. - The appraisals made by dealerships are in line with fair market value not the NADA value given to the Commonwealth of Virginia. - The process for disputing the inflated car values relies on the cooperation of dealerships which have proven themselves to be uncooperative. Because of the above mentioned problems it seems to me that it is impossible to dispute the PPT value. **Theory** When NADA provides the Commonwealth of Virginia with inflated used car valuations it helps boost tax revenue and in return the Commonwealth of Virginia might be more motivated to help dealerships retain their monopoly over the sale of automobiles. **What I would like** If you are a resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia and are experiencing a similar problem I want to hear from you. If you are a lawyer who wants to help please reach out with any advice you have. **TL DR** I received a bill for vehicle Personal Property Tax in the mail. I realized Virginia had valued my car roughy $8 - 10k above fair market value. When I inquired I was told that Virginia goes off of values provided by NADA. (Used car valuations provided by NADA aren t easily attainable and after checking NADA s website I found that used car values are hidden behind a pay wall). Was told if I wanted to dispute the value I would have to get an appraisal from a dealership that followed very specific instructions [see here](https: taxes.arlingtonva.us vehicles vehicle-tax-appeals ). Two Chevrolet dealerships in the DC area would not provide me with an appraisal that matched the format described by Virginia. If you have a suggestion for a more relevant subreddit for this post please let me know. r legaladvice didn t really seem to like my post
2017-08-28 00:22:31
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You seem to be very confused about a few things. The first is on your appraisal - you need a *professional appraisal* on your vehicle. That means you will need to pay someone to do it. No one is going to put in the work to do a professional appraisal for you for free. The second is that the Kelly Blue Book trade in value is *not* the fair market value of your vehicle. That s the wholesale value of your vehicle - which can be up to 50% below its actual market value. Kelly Blue Book lists the actual value of the base model of your car as being between $24 000 - $26 000. Both Kelly Blue Book and NADA base their valuation on a combination of auction and dealership data. Kelly Blue Book weights more heavily towards auction pricing while NADA weights more heavily towards dealership pricing. That means Kelly Blue Book s prices tend to be a little bit below market while NADA s are a little bit above. Third - you assume they re valuing your car as though it was a used car but that seems unlikely. Because the car was less than 6 months old as of the assessment date its likely that they are still valuing it as a new car which they are almost certainly entitled to do if this is the first time you ve been assessed this tax on it. Even if you have already had this tax assessed its not unreasonable to believe that they are entitled to value the vehicle as being new for up to a year after your purchase. Before you waste anymore time with this you should talk to an actual lawyer who deals with Virginia tax issues because it doesn t sound like you have even the slightest grasp of whats going on here.
2017-08-28 00:52:59
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla Model Y RWD Delivery Text Update
I just got a text from Tesla saying my Model Y RWD would be ready in 5-8 weeks. It also said I could get a different model sooner. So I don t know if its true that it ll be ready in 5-8 weeks or if they are just trying to get me to buy an AWD. My Model Y Reservation is White and the rear bumper mismatch color really bugs me. I was tracking it when it was a problem with the 3 and I hope it gets resolved. My reservation is still the $2 500 one right before the hiked FSD from $6 000 to $7 000. Based on the price reduction and if the RWD gets priced at $45k it should come out to nearly the same price with FSD at $8k if I just cancel it and change the color. Just waiting on hard numbers before canceling my $2 500 reservation. I really wanted a white Y to go with my black 3. Update: just got another text saying it was an error.
2020-08-06 19:50:32
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Update: just got another text saying it was an error.
2020-08-06 20:50:38
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla Road Noise and Sound Levels
I would like for this community to get a more objective idea of road noise in the various Tesla models as well as comparisons from other types of vehicles. I suspect that there are many (including myself) who might value this information. Many factors impact road noise: wind (whether the wind is actually blowing headwinds crosswinds gusts etc) speed type of road (smooth asphalt concrete gravel condition) and wheel size are probably some of the more important variables. I rarely find engine noise to be louder than road noise from modern ICE vehicles at highway speeds. I assume that most people don t hear the motors from a Tesla vehicle at highway speeds. I don t own a Tesla currently but am hoping to become a Tesla owner in the future. However our family does have other cars (currently too many of them). As such I can provide a few comparisons. At 60 mph on asphalt roads of medium-roughness quality I see the following sound level ranges: BMW 5 Series diesel 18” wheels: 69-72 dB Ford Mustang 19” wheels: 74-77 dB Ram 2500 pickup diesel 17” wheels: 64-67 dB I will collect these points again and update if I am seeing any variation. These are all stock configured vehicles. Yes the pickup handily beats them all in regards to road noise. It s also the oldest of the vehicles. I think its advantage has to do with height above the road large tires with relatively small wheels (lots of rubber between the wheel and road) and a lot of sound proofing. I have collected the data above with the app “NIOSH SLM” on my iPhone. I have cross checked this with my wife s iPhone and get very similar results. I place the phone on the passenger seat or center console to collect these data. If you would be willing to collect similar data and share on this post I believe the community here would be appreciative of it. It s hard to get a feel for how loud or quiet a vehicle is just from anecdotal comments. Real data is what we need. If you d be willing to participate please share data from your Tesla vehicles as well as other vehicles you own or have access to. *And please don t participate in this if it will cause you to get distracted while driving!* It s best if you do this as a passenger rather than as a driver. If you do participate please include the following: 1) Make model of vehicle 2) Speed of travel when you collect the data 3) Type of road surface during data collection 4) Size of wheels on the vehicle 5) Optional: phone app for sound measurement If possible please try to collect at least one of your data points at 60 mph. I would like to use 60 mph as the baseline for comparing. Much thanks in advance!
2019-07-15 14:40:10
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Just FYI the sound in my Model 3 varies dramatically with road surface. Noise in the car seems mostly to be a product of tire-to-road noise. The worst place I ve found is the San Mateo bridge near San Francisco which has what I m guessing are traction grooves in the surface that set up a really loud whine buzz when driving over them. FWIW I m not sure I d get too worked up about this issue since (to me) it doesn t seem like anyone would choose to get not get a certain Tesla or other car based on this.
2019-07-15 16:23:29
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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PSA make sure your referral code is on your friend s order
if it somehow wasn t attached to the order when they initially placed it Tesla will refuse to add it retroactively. So before you finalize the order make sure Tesla has acknowledged the referral code. I recently had a friend use my code to buy solar. We thought they used the link to order it. A few month later we inquired about the supercharging miles and Tesla didn t have the referral attached. Tesla support quoted us their terms and refused to add the code back.
2019-12-05 18:08:20
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Going through this now. A friend ordered but didn t use the link and asked the Tesla rep to add the referral code to the order. They said that it would be added but we ll see.
2019-12-05 19:01:57
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Tesla Referral Program Issues
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Any chance Tesla is going to the 2016 Detroit auto show?
Edit: 2017
2016-11-29 16:24:48
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Given the laws in place that prevent Tesla from selling in Michigan (I think they re still current) I don t see the point. But you never know until the event.
2016-11-29 16:26:07
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Can a Tesla solar roof sustain enough energy to heat a home throughout the winter in Toronto.
My dad doesn t believe that we can go completely off grid even through the winter. How can I prove to him that with Tesla power walls solar roof and some sort of electric heater we can do it. He wants to build an earth ship and thinks he could make it better. Has anyone done the math on the idea?
2020-07-17 22:18:51
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Consider geothermal HVAC for efficiency
2020-07-17 22:28:47
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Issues with Tesla Energy Installation
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Can someone in Miami Orlando help a future owner?
So I have somewhat of an odd request I just bought a 90D and I m in the grace period where I can still make changes I ve been trying to figure out if I should get the ultra high fidelity sound. When I did my test drive they didn t have any cars without it the best they could do was disable Dolby but I could still hear the sub what I want to know is how the standard sound system sounds. If anyone with the standard audio system would be kind enough to allow me to listen what it sounds like it d be greatly appreciated. I m in a training session in Miami until Friday when I ll be driving back home to Orlando so I m also open to meeting someone on my drive back up as well. UPDATE: I stopped by the Miami showroom and George was awesome he let me go back and forth between a non-UHFA and one with a couple times which allowed me to make up my mind that I wanted it.
2016-02-16 01:37:45
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Definitely head over to TMC to ask this: http: www.teslamotorsclub.com forumdisplay.php 91-Florida
2016-02-16 03:30:29
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Tesla sound system comparisons
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model y delivery status
my friend who ordered a model y got an email from Tesla to finish his paperwork (trade in financing etc). He s still waiting for his VIN number. I ordered mine around the same time as my friend but I never got any such email. Yesterday I was randomly checking my reservation page and I see that I can now also fill out my paperwork for trade in financing etc... Has this happened to anyone else? Does this mean that my car is about to get delivered as well?
2020-03-24 18:00:30
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Same thing happened to me last week. I called Tesla Fremont Delivery yesterday to inquire about what action to take after I submitted my proof of insurance (since there was no “confirm” or “done” button). They informed me that the next step is to wait for a VIN but that might be awhile since the factory is closed as of today and I still haven t been matched with a car yet.
2020-03-24 18:09:23
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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Looking for opinions on different Model S options
So the wife and I test drove a Model S Friday and god what a fabulous car! I ve been spreadsheeting all the numbers out and looking at different options. I know the options aren t a huge part of the overall cost but they still can add up. I was looking for opinions of owners on the glass roof the tech package and the air suspension (even if you don t have them - do you wish you did?). Any input on those would be very helpful. Also....is there really no way to plug an iPod into the USB? That seems mindboggling to me... Thanks in advance!
2013-06-24 00:04:02
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Tech package is a MUST. Glass roof is awesome and I love it! Air suspension is worth it too! If you need to save some money maybe drop the sound package. I live the 21 wheels BUT I m paranoid about them because of the low profile. Might be worth it to go for the 19s. They supposedly ride smoother too.
2013-06-24 00:49:04
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Any word on the Center City Philly super charger?
Says there s a CC supercharger getting put in this year. Haven t heard any news though.
2017-06-17 18:29:40
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the future (grey markers) Superchargers are all shown on the city center. So Tesla is saying there will be one but don t expect it to be specifically where the marker is just somewhere with a Philadelphia address. also keep an eye on [supercharge.info](https: supercharge.info) and the change tab. It lists when permits are applied for when construction starts and when open.
2017-06-17 19:26:43
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Need to report issues with car at pickup during 3 day 100 mile window but app is throwing error. Who should I report these issues to in order to get them documented in time?
I picked up a Model 3 yesterday and love it. The process was chaotic so I inspected the car for 30 min or so and had 3 issues documented. I ended up finding another later that day. I was told to use the app to schedule a service appointment to get everything fixed. Since I found an additional issue that was not officially documented during pickup I want to get this officially documented before 3 days or 100 miles pass. I was told that s the window to report issues. When I tried to submit via the app I m getting “Error please try again later”. Is there another way I can get these issues officially reported? I anticipate going over 100 miles today.
2020-01-01 18:49:14
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The error goes away after 3 days or 100 miles.
2020-01-01 21:06:52
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Perpendicular parking experiences so far
Wondering how everyone s first trials with the auto-parking went? Here is my experience tonight: * First thing I tried was parking between the two cars I had just pulled out from. After going back and forth about 10 tens without getting the P I tried something else. * Parking between a car and a concrete pillar worked pretty well. Got be a little closer to the car side than pillar side but not bad. I was able to do this configuration in two or three spots. * Doesn t work with no or only a single car. This will have to be fixed if they ever want the car to pick you up across the country. * It tried to back into a wooden fence and I think would have ran into it if I had not stopped it (9 and there was not actually a spot there to begin with). * It mounted the curb on my right side while trying to park in a smallish space (should have been able to do it). * So far no luck getting a spot between two cars to work... Overall the code needs some tweaking I think. Summon is pretty awesome though.
2016-01-14 05:36:28
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&gt Doesn t work with no or only a single car. This will have to be fixed if they ever want the car to pick you up across the country. This amuses me. This problem is about eleven thousandth on the list of hard problems that need to be solved for cross-country Summon.
2016-01-14 16:46:00
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Issues with Smart Summon
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Charging Port in Garage
I am getting ready to purchase a model 3 and was wondering what to do for charging in my garage. I don t really have any outlets close to the place where I would park the car. I am going to run a new line to my garage but I didn t know what to ask the electrician to do. Is there an amperage and volt requirement. Also where do a get the box is there a place to buy one on Tesla s site?
2020-06-02 17:23:05
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You can either install a NEMA 14-50 outlet buy the $30 adapter and use the mobile connector the car comes with or you can buy the more expensive wall connector and have the electrician install that for quicker charging and convenience. Just tell the electrician you want to install an EVSE or a 14-50 outlet depending on what you choose.
2020-06-02 17:33:21
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Can I change referral codes after order but before delivery?
Recently placed an order for a Model 3 with a YouTuber s referral link but then one of my relatives bought one and has one to offer so I want to benefit my relative than someone I don t know. Now the car is in the financing process and I wonder if any of you s done anything like this? Note: I ll contact Tesla tomorrow morning to find out but just curious about it right now. Thanks!
2019-07-30 03:53:19
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You can try. Probably won t work. If anything like my experience I didn t even change. You ll fight with them for months. People will promise they re the one that will help. You ll eventually give up and you won t get your rewards like so many others.
2019-07-30 03:55:19
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Model 3 - Can you lock the key card in the car?
Here s the setup ... we are having tint done on our Model 3 today by a friend at his shop. We probably won t be able to pick it up straight away when it s done. We are giving him the key card. When he is done can he simply leave the key card somewhere in the car (glovebox maybe or trunk) and tell us to lock it remotely so we can pick up the car later on? Or will the key card being inside the car possibly allow it to unlock randomly?
2021-01-16 16:03:25
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The keycard needs to be placed in a specific area it s not proximity like your phone. Have them put it in the centre console or armrest hit the Locks (top left corner of map) and get out and close the door.
2021-01-16 16:11:20
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Model 3 phone key issues
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Getting the $2000 supercharger option for the 60kWh version is roughly equivalent to pre-paying electricity for 32 550 miles of supercharging.
I m in socal and the electricity is about 21.5cents kWh. The national average is closer to 10 cents so it d be over 60 000 miles nationally.
2014-10-23 20:22:24
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You cant really discount the cost of the HW that allows supercharging.
2014-10-23 20:56:32
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very high wh mi after stationery for a week
Hi all Got a question about something that doesn t seem right. I ve not driven my model s as much in the last 7 days but when driving today I noticed the Wh mi is up around 600. Went as high as 632 and still trying to get it down. Anyone got a clue what s going on here? Should I be worried? Any help much appreciated Model S new in December
2018-02-17 14:58:27
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Is it cold? Sounds just like battery heating up.
2018-02-17 15:22:38
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True difference between Model 3 SR and SR+?
I ve heard some varying comments about what the Standard Range is actually missing from the Standard Range Plus. My current understanding is that it is: -30 miles of range -Autopilot (but you still have plain old ordinary cruise control) -Immersive sound Would someone be able to confirm that this is correct? Is there anything else?
2020-04-18 14:11:54
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That s essentially correct. My way of thinking is that if you don t need the range and don t care for Autopilot SR is a good way to save $4k. That being said if you have even the slightest interest in Autopilot now or later get SR+ as it would be foolish not to.
2020-04-18 14:18:15
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Went for a test drive of the X on Saturday left with a definite sense Tesla is pushing to sell now more than ever and still had few unanswered questions.
Some quick take aways and questions: 1) store reps were a lot more focused on making a sale than in my prior trips to the store. One rep said that Tesla has a goal of being profitable this quarter and is pulling out all the stops. Contrary to prior times we were asked repeatedly to build one and how now is the time. 2) the store was hopping busy and anecdotally the 60 is having a big influence. This has me a little concerned that the $7 500 tax credit is not going to be around by the time the 3 gets here. Tesla is already at nearly 150k sold (Not sure of that math?). But it does really have me thinking I should jump in now and accept the $900 payment. 3) forgot to ask the rep is there a rear entertainment system option on the X? I have 3 kids and the two hour road trips are a nightmare without it. Also wonder what the impact it would have on the battery.
2016-07-25 17:09:50
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&gt 150k sold (Not sure of that math? Only US sales count. So it s more around 80k
2016-07-25 17:19:16
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Model 3 Cabin Filter
Does anyone know where I can buy after market cabin air filter for the Model 3? Only info I have seen is that the filters measure 240mm x 140mm x 30mm (9-1 2in x 5-1 2in x 1-3 16in). Has anyone found a good after market filter or is the only option from Tesla so far?
2019-07-22 03:51:35
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Trust me the one from Tesla is phenomenal. One of the best I ve seen.
2019-07-22 05:07:55
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I d like to compile a Top 10 20 Issues and Resolutions post as a reference guide of How-to s to fix the most common issues. A post would be best so all users (desktop and mobile can access it). Or a Wiki page could be curated by select users.
Most common fixes I can think of are reboot processes power off steps manual trunk release steps to open the frunk latch or just tips tricks and links to the manual or Tesla support numbers and contacts (or show where to access it). A post like that would be great to have linked in our Daily Discussion Threads since it is always a place that people come to help with small and big issues. We re a big resource and I want it to be better for everyone and I can t do it alone :). Then later as things are fixed or addressed I m sure those items will change (then a new updated post can be easily made). If you d like to help I was thinking that you could create a parent comment and then we let votes can determine which will make the final list. I made a wiki [Support page](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support) that folks can point others to (which will get updated with the Top 10 20). What do you think?
2018-12-27 14:45:19
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If you notice any of your windows rolled down after you leave your car the windows need to be recalibrated. Roll them all the way down and keep holding the roll-down button for a few seconds then roll them all the way up and hold the button a few seconds.
2018-12-27 16:23:50
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[Model X] A feature I haven t seen anyone talk about yet...
Has anyone come across any talk about how the active spoiler works? From http: www.teslamotors.com modelx: &gt Aerodynamic ... In addition an active spoiler deploys from the rear liftgate to optimize highway efficiency and stability. And &gt Automatically deploying rear spoiler Does it dynamically adjust based on different conditions? Sounds pretty cool.
2015-10-01 13:15:44
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I ve read on this sub you can set it on 3 different modes: aerodynamic visibility and road stability. So you can chose.
2015-10-01 14:00:32
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$TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 07 2018
[We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22&amp restrict_sr=on&amp include_over_18=on&amp sort=new&amp t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ).
2018-08-07 09:12:26
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I d just like to say I m SO glad we had a Daily Investor Discussion thread live today. Good job mods on this new initiative I think it s been working out great!
2018-08-07 19:32:26
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Elon s comment about music at yesterday s shareholder call - what was he describing?
Here s the excerpt of what he mentioned: &gt In terms of the music selection I think there s going to be some exciting announcements in terms of the music selection. I think it s very hard to find good playlists or good matching algorithms. We have something that works okay right now but I think it could work really really great. Yeah...there ll be an announcement on that later this year. I think this is going to be like the music you want to listen to or at least I want to listen to... A new media player interface? It seems more likely that he s referring to something more like a new service or way to index their supported services to build a better listening experience...
2017-06-07 19:12:10
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I bet they re overhauling the music application in Tesla OS to be their own proprietary system instead of relying on Slacker etc. I have to agree that it works okay right now but it s not great. That being said Spotify and Apple Music are just okay too -- nobody seems to have music selection at a great level yet. Listening to music in the car is one of my favorite things to do and I m not alone (even Musk mentioned the same for him). So getting music selection right will make a Tesla even more desirable...
2017-06-07 19:39:48
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Spotify Integration Analysis
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Tesla saying to drive with no plates
So I am registering the car in VA and buying it in CA while on business (planning a one-week road trip). Tesla said they won t need to give me a temp tag and I need to go to my VA DMV to get this sorted. I called the local police department in the bay area and they said Tesla needs to give me a temp tag even if it means talking to the DMV in VA. Right now I have a one-way trip registration on my car that should be valid for 30 days. I m more inclined to believe the police here. Right now I have the car with no plates and am anxious about being pulled over.
2020-06-27 23:34:41
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Tesla usually provides paper temporary plates they use to place your vin on the windshield but this is also located on the temporary tags.
2020-06-27 23:41:15
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Nearing 50k on Model 3. Question about new vehicle limited warranty.
Nearing 50k miles on my Model 3 in about a month or two. That means my new vehicle limited warranty is about to expire. Should I schedule a visit to my service center so they can do a general maintenance checkup? Is there anyway to extend the warranty through Tesla? I know not many are close to 50k but I know some people have crossed that mark already. I want to see if I can squeeze any maintenance work while I m still covered. Also I tried asking this questions in the daily thread but no one was answering other people were also interested so I thought I d create a thread. Mods please delete once this gets answered.
2020-02-25 15:51:56
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Owning this car after having the warranty expire scares me lol.
2020-02-26 02:34:00
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Tesla Warranty Maintenance Insights
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Possibility Tesla will release a 60D again as they increase production rates?
Sorry for the one liners in my posts today these questions just pop into my head.
2015-01-21 18:35:44
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I think the 60 will be discontinued before we would dream of seeing a 60D again.
2015-01-21 22:43:12
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Daily Discussion + Support Thread - April 12
Use this recurring thread for basic Q&amp A vehicle assistance today s topics sightings customization shop item discussions etc. **Have a curiosity or concern?** - [On your displayed range?](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments epy1uh daily_discussion_support_thread_january_17 fenj4n8) - [Need Tesla Support?](https: www.tesla.com support) - [Winter Driving Tips?](https: www.tesla.com support winter-driving-tips) - [Software Updates](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) **Vehicle Manuals - U.S.** - [Model S](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_s_owners_manual_north_america_en_us.pdf) - [Model 3](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_3_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) - [Model X](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_x_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) - [Model Y](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_y_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) **Resources:** - [Gigathread of Resources](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments cdxuwh gigathread_of_resources ) - Recent Highlights and Links - r AutoDetailing for cleaning detailing tips - [Discord Live Chat](https: discord.gg 7WuEqAW) - [Subreddit Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki index) - [Tesla Podcasts](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki podcasts) - [Tesla Vehicle History Comparisons](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Rv464J1RsXNBNddy008IPsQfVrO4kHPh_L4HWKpG4bo edit#gid=0) - Communities: r TeslaLounge | r TeslaInvestorsClub | r TeslaPorn | r TeslaClassifieds | r Superchargers | r TeslaAutonomy - Print your own [Business Card](https: drive.google.com drive folders 1URFRBNFIcuhpKr_fgtPaYXVc83m7EHQs?usp=sharing) to share by u backstreetatnight and u 110110 **Please be kind** [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. If you want to share a photo you can easily create an image post on Imgur and include it in your comment. Find past discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22&amp restrict_sr=on&amp include_over_18=on&amp sort=new&amp t=all).
2020-04-12 09:11:56
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Ya gotta love these new Tesla drivers - https: i.redd.it ou32grt78as41.jpg ([source](https: www.reddit.com r IdiotsInCars comments fzmjql the_closer_you_look_the_worse_it_gets ))
2020-04-12 12:11:11
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German experts say Tesla battery is the best electric car battery they have ever seen
The Tesla Model 3 (year 2018) battery design is far better than Jaguar s Audi s and Porsche s batteries (newest models). Safety and driving feel is too. I read that in an established car review magazine. The experts say that the shape of the battery is different to the established manufactures. It s interesting how a 17 year old company can outrun companies that have existed for much longer in terms of quality. Yet there is much room for improvement I think. In particular in winter and cold temperatures the car loses significant amounts of efficiency. But they are definitely pioneers.
2019-12-12 14:05:27
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I read that in an established car review magazine. References or it didn t happen bud. Otherwise this post just sounds like a circle jerk.
2019-12-12 14:19:53
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Tesla is Growing - Anecdote
I live in a relatively smaller city (Colorado Springs) with somewhat modest incomes compared to most major cities. As I drive up to drop my daughter off for band practice I pulled behind a Model 3 and then another Model 3 pulled up behind me making for 3 in a row (mine being the third). How unlikely is it that 3 of any of the same car would pull up right after each other let alone 3 Teslas. The kids seem to be as excited as I was and there were a few others that stopped in wonder.
2018-10-24 13:48:46
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Tesla and Colorado Springs goes hand in hand. Being one of the best selling cars in the US it s only a matter of time before Tesla vehicles visit one of the previous homes of Nikola Tesla.
2018-10-24 13:51:39
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8.1 == OS upgrade?
Does the new 8.1 software update the UI and OS? Or is it just Autopilot? If not the OS and UI update when will that be coming? I m hoping for at least the option of Spotify.
2017-03-30 00:59:52
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UI was recently changed in 8.0... and we are at 8.1. I highly doubt any significant UI updates will come soon. I would love to have Spotify. A bit sick of repetitive slacker stations. Granted I can just Bluetooth from my phone for Spotify Pandora etc
2017-03-30 01:05:19
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[Discussion] Anyone seeing new Model 3 config options yet?
Mine now goes directly into config instead of giving me the Hold My Place option but I can t select AWD. Anyone actually seeing it yet? Yes? Please post pics.
2018-05-20 15:54:47
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There s one screenshot on TMC forums showing white interior option. https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc attachments 64313f11-1bac-403d-a93f-735ffe5b130f-jpeg.302437
2018-05-20 15:55:37
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u bigbirdie11 s comment
u bigbirdie11 s comment saying new AP hardware was 45 days out was 32 days ago. Yesterday AP price increases $500. That s gotta be a sign that new orders for all models from here on out will include AP 2.0 hardware right? As someone in another thread said a lot of people who just ordered a brand new P100D would probably be pretty pissed if AP 2.0 dropped right after they got the latest and greatest regardless of if a retrofit is available. Thoughts?
2016-08-24 20:59:31
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Tesla is obviously making a huge 3rd Q push evident by the 2 year lease (expires Sept 13) and the $1200 discount for orders that take a September delivery. This all in addition to the referral discount. They could have made their numbers by making an announcement instead of undercutting the price. If AP2 was already in the cars they could have announced that the hardware was in the cars. If a retrofit for money was possible they could have announced that and taken a fee at the time of configuration with the promise that cars would be retrofitted with AP2. Either announcement would have pushed a lot of people waiting into the pool. It makes me think that: AP2 is a long ways off and or a retrofit isn t possible. I m not sure the P100D announcement has any bearing on AP2. Tesla has never seemed to care about not pissing off their existing customers with upgrades in the past.
2016-08-24 23:09:27
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So I got my Model 3 towed today within 2 weeks of owning it...
Curious if anyone has had this issue? I went to my car today as normal to go to work and I got flashing error messages saying UNABLE TO DRIVE PULL OVER SAFELY... Rear Motor Disabled: Exiting and re-entering vehicle may restore operation... Car Needs Service Car May Not Restart . I ended up calling roadside assistance and they sent someone immediately to tow my vehicle. I tried leaving the vehicle and coming back 15 minutes later like support told me to with no luck so my car had to be put on a dolly and ride down 5 floors of misery to the bottom of my parking garage while impatient people tried to pass the tow truck and almost damage my vehicle &gt :( Anyways in the weirdest possible timing I had a service appointment already scheduled today at 1:30PM (to fix trunk lights in back not being plugged in properly charging port not properly closing phone charging dock acting weird) and by the time I got to the service center in the tow truck going at 20 miles per hour on surface streets I got there at exactly 1:30PM! After speaking to the friendly customer service they got the technician to explain that there might be an electrical issue but that it may take a few days to figure out. They had originally said it might be a software issue but quickly said it s probably electrical related. They also said they would be using this for their own research to improve any model 3 s that have this issue in the future. They gave me a Model S 85 as a loaner vehicle and let me use their supercharger to go on my way. I received a text a few hours later saying that they wanted to give me an update on the vehicle and that the technician is diagnosing the issue by working with the Engineers in Fremont... sounds serious. I ll keep you all updated and in the meantime I ll enjoy the sunroof on this Model S! TLDR So I got my Model 3 towed today within 2 weeks of owning it... Update (4 5): I just got an update from the service center saying the engineers are looking into the vehicle and cannot give it back to me unless they are 100% sure it won t happen again. They aren t telling me what exactly the issue is yet so I m a little suspicious...
2018-04-05 03:32:34
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Thats a blast form the past like a joke from the 90s: (https: www.snopes.com fact-check car-balk ) &gt For all of us who feel only the deepest love and affection for the way computers have enhanced our lives read on. At a recent computer expo (COMDEX) Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1 000 miles to the gallon. &gt In response to Bill s comments General Motors issued a press release stating: If GM had developed technology like Microsoft we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics: &gt 1. For no reason whatsoever your car would crash twice a day. &gt 2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road you would have to buy a new car. &gt 3. **Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull to the side of the road close all of the windows shut off the car restart it and reopen the windows before you could continue.** Strangly enough with regards to 2 NOT repainting the lines on the road tend to be a bigger issue ...
2018-04-05 07:25:06
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Miles per dollar
Hi folks - could you please help me understand something? Just read that the average price per gallon of gas in the US has risen to $2.82. Googled that the average MPG for a car purchased today is 23.6 which means that an ICE car on average gets a little more than 8 miles to every dollar . How can I calculate the Tesla equivalent? I have a P90D MX and pay 7.8 cents per kWh. Based on this how can I determine how many miles my Tesla gets for the dollar of electricity I put in? THANKS!
2019-07-20 17:35:51
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I can go 4 miles on 1kwh in my LR RWD. $.10 PER KWH so 8 miles cost me $.20 or 40 miles for a dollar.
2019-07-20 19:37:53
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Help me sell Tesla to my wife. Am I missing any arguments?
Our BMW X3 lease is up in January. We have two kids age 5 and 3. My wife wants to lease a soccer-mom mobile. I believe that concept of “we have kids we need a huge car” is cliche. I am not a car person but I lust over the Tesla model 3 because I m a TECH GEEK. We are modest people and I m only considering it now because we can lease for $399 which is what we spend now. My arguments for the BASE model White Tesla 3. 1) the price is now $399 a month (I can sugar coat the 4K down.). That s within our budget. 2) it s safer because of autopilot so if she is driving the kids it will avoid accidents. 3) good for the environment (she likes cute animals) 4) there is a charging station directly in front of her weekly supermarket. 5) there is TONS of trunk space. More space than our BMW X 3 and the seats go down! 6) pay with Apple Pay online (no salesmen no haggling) Am I missing anything? I ve begun the convincing process. We are past the “NO FUCKING WAY!!” Phase. To the “Fine honey I ll hear you out.”phase. That s progress. Elon feel free to chime in if you read Reddit. Jk
2019-10-28 16:51:23
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You charge at HOME it s about 25-30% of the cost of gas to drive the same distances no need to charge at a grocery unless you rent or don t have parking with power. Control from the app on the phone to preheat the car in the winter cool it in the summer. 5 min before you leave turn things on and have a comfy car to go drive off in. Incredibly quiet no rumbling engine almost zero maintenance too
2019-10-28 17:03:57
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Just a thought after watching some of the new NoA videos without confirmation
I feel like the car shouldnt turn on the turn signal if the hands are not detected on the wheel. I feel like if you see a car with its turn signal on for a while (for example when the car wants to change lanes but your hands are not on the wheel) it can be confusing to other drivers about your (or your cars) actual intention. I feel like it would make more sense to engage the turn signal after the hands were detected on the wheel. What do you think?
2019-04-08 12:52:40
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I d also prefer it didn t turn on the signal when the lane is being blocked. Wait for a little bit of an opening then turn it on and move. Seems like most drivers see the turn signal and purposely move up so they don t lose their spot.
2019-04-08 13:01:39
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price higer price for FSD 1. july
hi has asked almost everywhere but hope you can help me. my situation: i am living in norway having a TMX-16 with EAP MCU1 AP 2.0. currently my price in my tesla for upgrade to FSD is about 3000 usd (25000 nok). since i am living in europe upgrade to FSD will give no more function but maybe get dashcam. but in these days it hard to justify paying 3000 usd for hardly any features will the 1000 usd increase the 1. july also be for me
2020-06-06 19:11:39
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[I heard the FSD rewrite is coming](https: imgur.com a Pz0NIMG)
2020-06-06 21:56:38
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25,475
Autonomous parking lot?
Do you think that Tesla should contact big retail companies and set up some kind of standardized autonomous parking lot solution. For example here is a [random walmart parking lot.](http: imgur.com Oq9t8kC) On it I have drawn what could be a rearrangement of the parking lot. The blue lanes are normal parking lot lanes. The red is an outline of where the autonomous cars could park. The cars don t have to follow the existing lane markers and could park in whatever configuration is most efficient. That red area could (possibly) change shape to accommodate an increasing number of autonomous cars. The green area is where people drive their cars to get out and where they return to get back in their car.
2016-05-07 20:14:59
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Extra creepy convenient: store tracks tracks your movements and delivers your car to the door when you arrive
2016-05-07 20:16:29
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
2,443
Just saw delivery estimate go from Nov to Jan!
Well damn I was getting all excited about delivery! Two days ago I saw the delivery estimate on the My Tesla site and it said: &gt Estimated DeliveryNovember - Early December &gt This time frame is only an estimate and is subject to change based on &gt current production schedules and option availability. Please expect that this &gt timing will shift to provide the most accurate estimate possible. Your &gt delivery appointment will be confirmed by your Delivery Experience &gt Specialist once your vehicle is fully assembled and en route to the nearest &gt Tesla location for final inspection and preparation. Great!! Today I check it... &gt Estimated Delivery &gt December - Early January 2016 &gt This time frame is only an estimate and is subject to change based on &gt current production schedules and option availability. Please expect that this &gt timing will shift to provide the most accurate estimate possible. Your &gt delivery appointment will be confirmed by your Delivery Experience &gt Specialist once your vehicle is fully assembled and en route to the nearest &gt Tesla location for final inspection and preparation. As someone that just sold off all of his cars (with one delivery waiting for me to get my new car in...) I am disappointed. I feel like a kid at Christmas only this time you might have to wait until AFTER Christmas!! Did anyone else have this happen to them? Any chance it moves back up? And yes I know my DS could have more details but so far in my experience he has pretty vague about what could change. Thanks!!
2015-11-20 15:32:16
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That s pretty weird the design studio is still saying Late December for everything. I d poke your DS and see if they know why the date changed.
2015-11-20 16:51:12
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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STILL no V8.0 update. Took Delivery 9 29 and have only received a security update since then.
Has V8.0 rolled out to everyone yet? Why is my brand new car still on V7.0? I would have thought that it would have shipped from the factory with it installed. Any guesses as to what s up?
2016-10-13 15:44:20
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There are some bugs in 8.0 (music skips center screen reset remote climate acts weird sometimes) that I think they are going to fix before sending it out to everyone. Thats the reason for the slow roll-out: they dont want to send buggy software to 100K+ cars.
2016-10-13 16:13:40
10
Tesla Software Updates Overview
16,729
75D vs 85D vs 90D CPO - real world range
Given that the 3 models listed above are now very close in price on the used market (2015 2016 model year with 35k miles or less) is there any benefit in going with one model over another when it comes to range and battery health? I ve read a bit about some of the first 2015 90 battery packs and that they degraded quite a bit when compared to the 85. Since many of the cars i m interested in are now 3-4 years old i m curious if the real world range benefit will be significantly different due to the initial degradation which occurs across the packs?
2018-12-06 00:50:47
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Shave 15% off the total Miles it says and it ll be accurate. You re going to be all over the place from non-flat ground cold rain snow etc.
2018-12-06 06:59:31
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Tesla Model Comparison
814
What can EVs improve to beat the top speed record of any production car ever?
I m talking about the highest speeds achieved by Bugatti Koenigsegg etc (\~280 mph)? Is there anything inherent in electric cars that prevents them from beating those record? Can the Roadster beat it? Would it be legal if the Roadster uses cold gas thrusters to beat the record? EDIT: Just found out Rimac Nevera s only 10 mph behind Bugatti (256 vs 266). So new and so close.
2021-06-05 02:01:43
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Aside from adding a gearbox like the Taycan and Rimac Nevera and assuming you have adequate cooling you simply just need more power. So 4 motors instead of 3 a bigger battery for more output higher power motors etc.
2021-06-05 02:06:33
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
22,550
Model Y doesn t have parcel shelf rear trunk cover?
So I ve been keeping my eye on the model y and apparently it doesn t have a rear parcel shelf? I heard the X doesn t have one either and it doesn t look like aftermarket options are very popular either. The concepts had a rear parcel shelf do you think this is something that will be added later on?
2020-05-16 05:26:09
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I wouldn t be surprised if an aftermarket one comes along. I did notice that the Y has tinted back windows which the 3 does not which offers some privacy. That storage in the truck is pretty sizable as well.
2020-05-16 05:40:10
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May 2018 - Experience Megathread
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2018-05-01 11:23:09
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Am I the only one who sits that their desk resisting the urge to go down to the parking garage just to look at my car again??
2018-05-03 14:10:10
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Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors
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[Discussion] The future of Tesla looks bright after seeing the new offerings.
With all of the new electric offerings one thing is becoming clear most of the offerings are two years or more behind Tesla. There have been no models introduced with anything close to Tesla aerodynamics. The control electronics motors are not even as efficient as the years old model S. The packaging is for the most part reused ICE engineering leaving no frunk in most and safety that probably will fall short of Tesla as well. In the end all of this translates into higher cost for manufacturing because you need to throw in more batteries for the same range. Tesla knows exactly how important all of these things are and has used lessons learned to make cars for less money. The latest offerings are all going to be sold at near cost and still be expensive. On quantities... Because these cars are sold at a loss they will be made in low quantities. Maybe 1000 a month. Even if four competitors make 1000 a month it will barely make a dent in Tesla sales. Tesla has at least two more years to move forward before any serious competition appears.
2018-09-18 14:14:10
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That s the difference between trying to achieve a goal (Tesla) and just building a product (everyone else). Tesla is intensely focused on building the best cars that both need to be profitable and compete with every other car out there be it ICE or EV. Everyone else sees EVs as a niche that needs to be filled due to emissions regulations etc. but that they don t want to put too much money in because no matter what it will hurt their short term profit numbers. That lack of commitment automatically means their offerings will generally be more expensive and offer less performance (range wise especially). Pretty sure they still can t build em profitably yet either. It s a problem of their own creation so I don t feel sorry for them. If only they all would have started with EVs 20 years ago.
2018-09-18 14:39:17
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Future of Electric Cars
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Daily Discussion Question and Answer Experiences and Support Thread
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2021-02-21 11:00:11
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How accurate is battery percentage for you? Yesterday I went on a trip to pick up my kids from my in-laws. On the way back my projected battery percentage on arrival was 21%. Throughout the trip it got as low as 12% but was back at 20% by the time I got home. Is this typical? How much flux does it typically have for you?
2021-02-21 22:52:13
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Non-owner Model 3 Impression
I ve taken a few days to think about my reaction to seeing my first Model 3 in person and sitting in the drivers seat (I did not drive it). I m a day 1 online reservation holder I live in the northeast US I am not a current owner I am waiting for the dual motor edition and I am a small share holder of Tesla. So those are my exceptions out of the way. First off I have been a believer in the Model 3 design since day 1. I have been in the market for a car for a couple years now I had a car picked out and then the Model 3 was announced. I have been a believer in the simple dashboard with no binnacle and the central screen. I am fully onboard with battery EV technology even given the challenges associated with cold climates and very long range. Tesla has done a good job at addressing those things as best they can but I know the industry as a whole has maturing to do. I m okay with being a moderately early adopter if it means furthering the development of battery EV technology. So my initial impression. The car itself in my opinion looks better than a Model S in every conceivable way. The proportions look better the shape of the car looks better and the size of the car is more reasonable looking even though the actual measurable differences are fairly small. The headlights are _painfully_ bright and did an unbelievable good job at lighting up the roadway where I first saw the vehicle. But the exterior isn t without its flaws. Like other Teslas there was some condensation building up in lights. That certainly isn t a showstopper but Tesla has to work on this. Also something important to note people are opening these doors like absolute maniacs and I have no idea why. Open the doors with the hand that is facing the front of the damn car. I don t know what you people are doing opening the doors with the opposite hand but you re very obviously doing it wrong. :) The interior of the car was spot on. The way I fit in the drivers seat was right on the mark the footwell was perfect for my driving style and preferred position. The screen was entirely within reach and I could see everything I needed to without adjusting my position. I have a slight stigmatism and even without glasses on I was able to read everything on the screen. The screen was responsive the brightness was good without ruining night vision and everything felt sturdy. The steering wheel felt good in my hand the buttons on the door felt good to touch and push and in general everything was exactly how I d want it. Most importantly though. Everybody that said a car needs a binnacle. You were wrong. I m sorry to say it so bluntly but it s just true. A backlit LCD binnacle directly in line with the driver s eye in my opinion is too bright. Having no binnacle to look at let my eyes adjust to the cabin and the parking lot in front of us so my night vision wasn t blown out. I like that. I _really_ like that. Plus there s absolutely no detail you need to look at on a binnacle in an EV. The UI on the screen is buggy. I think at this point we ve all seen videos of Model 3 that have error messages popping up or sensor warnings on various parts of the car. The car I saw was no different. But when actually interacting with the UI itself some bugs were very apparent. Hopefully the next few updates resolve these issues but I m not overly concerned with what I saw. All of them looked like very predictable bugs and as long as they ve been reported to Tesla none of them should be hard to put on the backlog and fix. I fully expect by the time non-owners start taking delivery that the things I saw will be fixed. Anyway now that I have seen one in person and sat inside I am even more sold on the Model 3. I m excited at the perspective that in slightly less than a year s time I will take delivery of mine.
2018-01-04 20:11:12
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&gt Also something important to note people are opening these doors like absolute maniacs and I have no idea why. Open the doors with the hand that is facing the front of the damn car. I don t know what you people are doing opening the doors with the opposite hand but you re very obviously doing it wrong. :) THAT S WHAT IT IS. Something s been weird in the videos I ve seen and I m pretty sure that it s that people have been doing weird shit with the handles. ([Like this one](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7o2ayb yet_another_way_to_open_a_model_3_door ?utm_content=comments&amp utm_medium=hot&amp utm_source=reddit&amp utm_name=teslamotors)?) Just use your dang thumb and grab the handle as it pops out no need for funky manuvers
2018-01-04 20:50:07
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Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences
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Model 3 owners who got their entire back window tinted what percentage did you go with?
I m getting my Model 3 on Saturday. I want to get the windows tinted and I usually prefer 5%. I watched a few YouTube videos and the one piece for the whole window looks way better than if they cut it off where the factory tint starts. If I go 5% I feel like that will make the roof too dark and then it might as well just be a regular roof with no glass. So I am just curious what percentage anyone else did and how do you like it?
2019-08-14 01:00:02
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20%.
2019-08-14 01:12:46
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Ceramic Coating Application Process
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EU S X users think twice before updating to 2019.16.2 autopilot is more limited
Since I ve started using my Model 3 driving on highways has been less enjoyable than our X. Frequent lane change timeouts and from time to time I would get a message: autopilot limited be ready to take over. This behavior now comes to S and X models with the latest update for european drivers. What changes: Model X can no longer take tight curves and displays a message saying autopilot limited. Highway driving is mostly unaffected even though there are some places around the city with sharper turns especially highway ramps and sections with limited speed. The car will unexpectedly break and play an alert sound. Changing lanes has now a 5 second timeout so if the car hesitates at the beginning it will swerve back to its previous lane quite vigorously. Major downgrade. I can no longer just pull the signal stalk all the way down and wait until the car waits for a slot. Driving animation doesn t improve anything its even a bit distracting and buggy. I am quite disappointed. If I was aware of these limitations I would stay on 2019.12 as long as possible until the fsd computer swap. That version worked flawlessly for me. Hope this helps
2019-05-22 10:18:25
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i don t think the FSD computer swap is going to change these limitations... they ve been introduced by regulation changes in Europe after all. We can only hope that Tesla gets regulatory approval to remove the limitations again soon but new hardware won t result in those limitations being taken away until regulators allow Tesla to do so.
2019-05-22 10:36:29
30
Tesla Autopilot Performance
5,779
Applying for Product Specialist job. Anyone have any info on this position?
I posted on the Tesla forums but no one could really tell me anything. I m wondering about pay hours what the job is like. I also would like some information about how long it takes for Tesla to actually hire you. I ve heard it ranges from a couple weeks to three months!
2014-04-10 17:48:48
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I don t have a Glassdoor account anymore but last time I had one I checked the salaries at Tesla and I think it was arround $14 per hour for a product specialst. My understanding is that it s more like a retail job than a car salesman job. As for the hiring they use the awfull upload your resume then write it all over again system on their website.
2014-04-10 18:08:00
5
Career Decision - Tesla vs. Ford
2,116
60d charging questions
Since the 60d models are software limited is it safe to charge to 100% every night? Does the charge rate slow down approaching 100% in the same way?
2016-09-15 08:47:59
5
Charge it to 100% and don t look back. If there s one thing Tesla knows better than anyone else in the EV game it s battery pack management.
2016-09-15 12:22:04
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Is there a list of teh dates when major features changes were introduced to the S model to help with used S shopping?
There are some features i really want. But i know were not in the first year. So if i knew exactly when improvements have been made over time and it would help me know what is the oldest year model i want.
2016-08-29 02:09:09
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http: www.teslamotorsclub.com showwiki.php?title=Model+S+options+by+year+-+a+running+history
2016-08-29 02:36:21
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
10,147
Forget range anxiety. I am having feature anxiety.
Is it weird that I am experiencing feature anxiety? Anyone else experiencing feature anxiety? What new feature are going to be delivered right after I get my car delivered. Soooo stressed
2015-12-09 01:23:49
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Nope. It s a problem with any company that releases new hardware or new features regularly. It s the reason there are websites that track Apple hardware with average time to refresh and time since last refresh so you can decide if you should buy The Shiny now or wait and hope it will be updated in the future. The easiest way to deal with it is to simply decide Am I happy paying the current cost for current features? If yes buy it. If no don t buy it. My iMac doesn t have a 5k screen. I m fine with that. It worked great when I bought it and it still does exactly what I need. If you re really concerned about it go for the various hardware features that might be used in the future. *shrug* Or just buy a car where you don t have to worry about it. Nobody worries about any other auto maker adding features to a car after it s been sold.
2015-12-09 01:27:06
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Baker CA Supercharger Station
Has Tesla started construction on the 40-stall Supercharger station in Baker CA yet? Does anyone who regularly drives on I-15 know?
2017-10-14 23:57:40
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Yes. [https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads supercharger-baker-construction-started-40-stalls.94018 page-7](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads supercharger-baker-construction-started-40-stalls.94018 page-7) Edit: You can track the progress of all Superchargers at [https: supercharge.info ](https: supercharge.info )
2017-10-15 00:25:07
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
2,674
Request for Tesla owners!
So I am a Computer Science major at my university. And I have been given a project to enter an art show with a collage I create using my programming skills. Well I want to use the Tesla logo from the hood of the car. The only problem is I don t own one And if its not my own picture I have to have permission to use it. So instead of just google searching if some owners of Teslas could post pictures of their logos from their car as well as a statement saying I can use the picture. When I complete the collage I will post it here.
2016-10-04 16:22:12
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Well... it could be cleaner but here you go: http: imgur.com a GFUWs
2016-10-04 17:10:26
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
16,478
Question about Tesla Financing (admittedly unique situation)
Hi All So I m buying a house and Tesla delivery dates were out to November for a MYP so I decided that I would pay the deposit and get the clock started. I close on my house next week so I figured I d just do the financing bit after I closed and all would be well. I purchased the car on Monday (9 13) and yesterday (9 17) there was a car waiting for me at the dealership. Granted this timeline is a *bit* more accelerated than I d hoped. I got them to reschedule delivery for next Friday but that will be the first day I can really apply for financing without risking my close on the house. Has anyone ever applied for financing same day as delivery? If not is there a T- day that they will reschedule and or cancel your delivery? Just trying to figure out my next moves because I m ready to buy this car but my hands are tied by red tape at the moment.
2021-09-18 19:53:20
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Whatever you do make sure to close on the house first. It s silly but a bank can see a new car loan as a red flag and deny your the loan for the house.
2021-09-19 12:10:13
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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Thank you to the gentlemen (or lady) in Philly that filled my meter today
Had my 85D parked at a street meter in Philly today and didn t have enough quarters to last me for breakfast. But when I got back to the car not only did I not have a ticket but someone had topped off the meter! Thank you!!
2016-11-19 19:43:17
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There are people in Philly that do that just because they hate the parking authority so much.
2016-11-19 20:31:16
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
20,609
Charge Port Door Sensor Issue (FIXED!)
Just wanted to share how mine got fixed as there seems to be an increasing number of people experiencing this issue. I took it to the service centre y day and they fixed the charge port door issue almost right away! (took like half an hour for them to park my car and run some data) Service told me initially that the fix may take a day or two but turned out it was only a matter of setting for the charge port door sensor. The engineer simply set the sensor sensitivity higher and problem was fixed (meaning it could have been done over the air) Obviously if the sensor is dead then it s a different issue... but one test you can carry to see if it was a dead or insensitive sensor is try pushing the charge port door in fully (completely compressing the spring on the car magnet) and watch your dash or centre screen to see if it senses the charge poor door closure. In my case before the fix my car was able to sense the charge port door closure when the door is pushed and held in indicating it was an insensitive sensor rather than a dead sensor... Really hope this helps as it kept me annoyed and confused for days! Now everything is so much better having the left side of my dash back where Navi instructions and now playing is shown! And of course not needing to guess if my charge poor door is indeed open or not... Cheers Ben
2016-07-05 03:43:54
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OP can you set context on what the issue was. Bit confused here as you only mentioned the fix.
2016-07-05 05:28:19
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Tesla charging port locking
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Big discounts on the loaner vehicles! Just want to validate what we read about already regarding them.
Spoke to a couple at a stoplight in a Pearl White P85 and they recommended asking about any of the loaner cars for sale because they are being offered at the discounts we ve been hearing about. They said they got $20k off of it. This was in Maryland. Hard to pass up a potential deal like that I guess I just have a battle with myself regarding if I want autopilot in the future or a Model S sooner.
2014-11-22 17:48:48
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Dear Canada: any news up here on inventory car deals? I asked in Montreal at that point but I think my question got lost in translation.
2014-11-22 18:37:52
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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2019-03-24 09:13:57
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Had anyone else noticed a change in autopilot recently since a few patches? When I tell it to change lanes on the highway it will sometimes slow me down by as much as 3mph for no reason - I m moving into a lane with no cars in front of me. It doesn t seem like it should be doing that.
2019-03-24 20:13:32
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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One way Tesla Motors could make a lot of money is from their Supercharging Stations
What I m thinking of is them licensing the supercharging technology used in their Model S to other car manufacturers. We already know that there is some form of DRM in their car that prevents or allows Model S owners to use a Supercharging station ([read the FAQ under How It Works ](http: www.teslamotors.com supercharger)). It would make a lot of business sense (to me at least) if they license the DRM right to other car manufacturers. So why would other manufactures want to do that? Imagine you re Toyota and you release a brand new fully electric car. It s about average price (say $35K [average price for a car in 2012 was nearly $31k](http: www.autoguide.com auto-news 2012 04 average-new-car-price-reaches-all-time-high-of-30748.html)) has decent range (maybe 200-250) and it looks nice. It s a decent car but it still has the problem of not really being able to be used for any sort of trip longer than half its range thus making the car a not very attractive option when shopping. However throw in the option to pay an extra 2-3 grand and you can now use any Tesla supercharging station in the world making Toyota s new car **much** more attractive option. So why would Tesla Motors license there tech? That s pretty easy They would make money on pretty much every single electric car sold as there would more than likely be very few people who didn t elect for that option and it would be extremely unlikely for the other manufacturers to put forth the effort &amp absurd amounts of capital to create a similiar infrastructure if all they had to do had to do was just include the option for the customer to pay for the license.
2013-10-24 05:09:14
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I don t think any carmakers want to make their EV models any more attractive. If they did they certainly would want to take full credit for it.
2013-10-24 05:28:32
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Tesla owners. What brand do you see as an actual competitive threat to Tesla?
Would like to get the point of view of people that actually enjoy driving a Tesla on a daily basis on not just people who still think noise from pistons is a cool thing. Where I m from even a model 3 is quite a bit of money especially because we are forced into all wheel drive so i ve never been in a tesla before. My only experience with EVs comes from driving a 30Kw Leaf which many people assume is slow but is actually really zippy for city driving but lacks a bit of top speed for highway driving. &amp #x200B What manufacturer do you see as a big threat? I think for many people in Europe brand loyalty won t matter that much if you deliver a decently quick car for around 25 thousand.
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Tesla. They need to get their operations sorted out quick otherwise they will destroy themselves.
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CEO of Aston Martin: For me Tesla is a very credible competitor in the premium market against Daimler BMW Audi and the others.
[Comments from Car &amp Drivers 2019 Aston Martin RapidE EV Prototype Drive ](https: www.caranddriver.com reviews 2019-aston-martin-rapide-electric-sedan-driven-review) Full quote: &gt “**For me Tesla is a very credible competitor in the premium market against Daimler BMW Audi and the others**. But they re not in the [upper reaches of the] luxury market where we are ” Palmer explained. “**Most of the people who buy a Model S are buying it fully loaded**. They re not limited by their cash they re limited by the offer. They re not a competitor of ours. We re looking to those people looking for something above Tesla. That customer probably isn t looking for Ludicrous mode. Our offer will have very credible acceleration equal to a gasoline Aston Martin but you ll be able to drive the car rapidly all the way around the Nürburgring without it derating or conking out on you.” Notably earlier in the interview he admitted ...like most of the industry we know nothing about how electric cars will be used with our customer group.
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When you re so fancy that even your prototypes call for only the most premium of [emergency stop buttons](http: i.imgur.com 3wU93fw.jpg).
2017-12-10 00:56:52
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Hey look kids there s Big Ben.
Does anyone happen to know of a video showing a Tesla using autopilot in a roundabout? Can t find one anywhere. If there were well defined lines would it just continue on around forever or would it try to take the first turn possible like they have seemed to be doing while on the interstate and then favoring the right lane exit? Thanks again for any info in advance
2015-10-28 23:21:36
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There were a few autopilot videos in the mega thread that showed people driving on back roads. Autopilot did not like roundabouts at all and asked the driver to take over every time. It doesn t help that autopilot would try to maintain the set speed through it.
2015-10-28 23:38:40
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