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Fan speed should slide on fan icon the same way temp icon slides for temp!
Model 3: I hate having to menu dive in the climate control while I m driving just to adjust the fan speed. It s so slick how you can slide the temp and volume icons to adjust their respective setting. I ve already tweeted Elon. Let s make this a thing!
2019-04-12 00:42:17
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Agreed this would be a great feature. Auto doesn t always work the way you d like it to. For example today it was 50 degrees and sunny. Since the car was parked in the sun it was warm inside and when I went to drive it the fans went super high in Auto mode to try to cool the car down to the set temp of 70 degrees. This was completely unnecessary and made it feel far too cold inside so I put the fan speed down to 1 and that was enough to cool the cabin while also being nearly silent. Sometimes you just need manual control.
2019-04-12 01:39:59
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[Discussion] anyone else downgraded to non-p AWD?
I was originally going to order the P-AWD with white interior but after reading around the forums and trying to get information about the performance package and its vague promise of better brakes and whether or not it included any significant chassis or drivetrain upgrades I decided it wasn t worth the money and just configured the AWD. Did anyone else do this? Do you think the performance package is worth it on top of the P-AWD?
2018-07-01 01:57:08
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I believe it s worth it there are: * Bigger brakes * Bigger rotors * Better tires * Nicer looking rims * Higher top speed * Quicker acceleration * Carbon fiber spoiler * Aluminum pedals * Ability to have white interior * Bragging rights It s not worth it for everybody but it s worth it for me.
2018-07-01 02:01:55
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Will the lack of a car port or garage damage effect charging equipment?
In rainy and wet regions like Seattle will I be making a big investment mistake by not having a cover over the car (Tesla Model 3 when it comes out) and charger cord outlet? How good against water is Teslas charging equipment with out a cover over the vehicle?
2014-10-20 20:37:20
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The Tesla UMC (charging cable the comes with the car) is rated for outdoor use. It s fine in the sun rain and even snow. However: 1) The charger cable itself is $650 to replace. So most people keep it indoors. It s possible but a pain to pack it away every day. 2) If you don t have a covered spot to park the car are you sure you ll have a legal place to charge? You ll need an outlet within 18 feet of the charge port on the car without stringing cables across walkways lawns other parking spots. Tesla recommends a 240V 50A outlet which is common in RV parks but not in residential parking areas. 3) EV charging may not be your biggest concern. For many people buying a Tesla (even the future Model 3) is a big investment and one they want to protect. You may not be comfortable leaving it outside subject to the elements (dirt sun) accidental damage (door dings scrapes) or malicious mischief (break-in attempts keying). 4) Given that the Model 3 is at LEAST 3 years out (and perhaps 4 or more!) how sure are you you ll still be in the same living situation you are now? Life can change a lot in a few years you might even factor in suitability to park an EV in your next residence decision.
2014-10-21 03:07:44
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Went to a Tesla Store today but I sitll have a couple of questions
Hey! Today I went to a Tesla store that opened this Wednesday in Gothenburg Sweden. It was the first time I was standing next to a Tesla and we fell in love with it.. Its not a car.. Its a freaking luxurious spaceship!! I asked many questions but forgot some so I thought that you might help me. 1. How are the speakers? It s extremely important for me to have good sound in the speakers but I didn t have a chance to try them out. 2. How many kilo watt does it take to charge the car? 3. Can you watch movies and such on the big touch screen? The car I was watching was the P85D with AWD. The car costs ~115.000$ so I want to be sure that I make a good purchase. Thanks!
2015-04-25 16:38:24
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1. I have the premium sound and I love it. Heard mixed things about the normal speakers after I had got mine which reinforced the decision. If you care enough to ask this question you probably want to get the premium sound. 2. Charging is complicated. Basically you get about 3 miles of distance per kWh of charge. Most 240v 40 amp outlets charge at ~30 mi per hr of charge which is a rate of 10 kW. 3. Video not allowed in US don t know about other places.
2015-04-25 18:48:32
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My friend is considering an Audi E tron. What info can I send him to properly compare it to the model 3 and the model Y so he can make a fully informed decision.
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2020-03-04 11:20:33
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He should just test drive both that s the best way to see the differences rather than watching some paid or incompetent YouTuber.
2020-03-04 11:25:28
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Looking to rent a Tesla in LA next month but I am 28!
Hi all I am looking at renting a Model X next month as my girlfriend loves Teslas - but she hasnt had the opportunity to actually go in a Model X yet! My main hurdle is that Turo won t let anyone rent who is under 30 however on another thread someone said they had luck just by asking the renter directly who waived the age requirement so they could rent. If Turo isn t possible does anyone know where else I can check? (I have emailed Enterprise and the other obvious places either only rent S s don t have Teslas or want $400+ per day!) Thanks all!
2017-10-12 13:02:54
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I m 28 and currently renting an S through Turo from LAX. I had the same issue initially I thought there was an age requirement. When I looked further I found a 2015 Model S without the age requirement so I booked it. It s possible there are no Model Xes without the requirement. I think it might also be based on the age of the car.
2017-10-12 15:23:07
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Technical and functional features comparison chart between models?
There are plenty of comparisons among the models. They cover many areas but I have yet to find a succinct comparison chart that covers all the technical aspects between S Y 3 and X. By technical and functional examples include--S has a seperate display Y and 3 do not S has a larger center display (2022) compared to Y and 3 S has air suspension Y and 3 have springs S has larger center and different center console compared to Y etc. I realize that S and X are a more premium and expensive vehicles when compared to 3 and Y but I m looking for a comprehensive list that manifests what S X have that 3 Y do not and how they are different. Does anyone know of such list or chart for current models? Thanks.
2022-03-06 18:08:29
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I made an extensive comparison guide where you select the Tesla models and variants you wish to compare. Currently over 250 specifications and features are tracked. https: teslatap.com vehicle-comparison-selector
2022-03-07 16:28:58
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New manufacturing approach promises 50% Li-ion battery cost
I usually shy away from these kind of posts because a breakthrough in battery tech is reported every other day. But I found this from Slashdot and there are some good reasons why this stands the test of being noteworthy not least of which this is research from MIT. Dr. chiang has also lead the research and he is [apparently](http: hardware.slashdot.org comments.pl?sid=7603971&amp cid=49986591) pretty accurate with what he publishes. And also one of the co-founders for this company was a co-founder over at A123. I like also how they ve made 10 000 batteries so far so mass-production doesn t seem to be an issue. Here is [the article](http: newsoffice.mit.edu 2015 manufacturing-lithium-ion-battery-half-cost-0623) and some choice quotes from the page: &gt The existing process for manufacturing lithium-ion batteries he says has hardly changed in the two decades since the technology was invented and is inefficient with more steps and components than are really needed. ... and: &gt Using fewer thicker electrodes the system reduces the conventional battery architecture s number of distinct layers as well as the amount of nonfunctional material in the structure by 80 percent. ...and: &gt While conventional lithium-ion batteries are composed of brittle electrodes that can crack under stress the new formulation produces battery cells that can be bent folded or even penetrated by bullets without failing. This should improve both safety and durability he says. ...and: &gt The company has so far made about 10 000 batteries on its prototype assembly lines most of which are undergoing testing by three industrial partners including an oil company in Thailand and Japanese heavy-equipment manufacturer IHI Corp. ...and: &gt But Chiang says the technology is also well suited to applications where weight and volume are limited such as in electric vehicles. ...and: &gt By 2020 Chiang estimates that 24M will be able to produce batteries for less than $100 per kilowatt-hour of capacity.
2015-06-26 04:16:00
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No worries Yet Ming Chiang is full of bullshit and is always peddling the latest thing for his businesses that nosedive after a few years.
2015-06-26 05:20:00
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Tesla Battery Production Optimization
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Daily Discussion + Support Thread - November 09
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2019-11-09 09:09:24
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One pedal driving with 36.2.1 is quite fun!
2019-11-09 10:10:39
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Tesla Leasing
Does anyone here lease their Tesla? How has the experience been? Can anyone tell me what the excess mileage fee is? I m looking at an EV for my next vehicle. I m the type of person who likes to trade in a vehicle every few years so the idea of leasing appeals to me. I priced out a Model 3 LR AWD FSD and it came to $58 900 before delivery. They quoted me $755 a month for a 36 month 15k mike lease. It looks like a 72 month loan at 2% would give me a payment just over $800. Not sure if I would want a model 3 as the idea of a crossover (Model Y) sounds appealing. I m running the numbers just for fun. The idea of lease giving me a lower monthly payment and not having to worry about trade in values when it s time to get something new.
2019-11-17 04:59:46
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I don t think leasing a Tesla is a good idea. Lease any cars you want but not a Tesla! Leasing a Tesla you pay almost like buying it and at the end of the lease you have zero equity.
2019-11-17 05:04:15
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Are you in Austria? Check this beautiful Model S P90 in Klagenfurt ( City Arkaden )
[But I am not 100% sure if it was a Model S P90 oder Model S P85. But nevertheless it looked gorgeous )](http: imgur.com a Smjpx)
2017-05-12 16:15:42
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Make sure Tesla is in picture and it will look great!
2017-05-12 16:28:18
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Does a Tesla in Autopilot mode honk?
Does the Autopilot use the horn in appropirate situations? For instance when another car cuts it off in traffic or another car takes it`s right of way? Or will it always drive silently?
2016-11-12 15:56:30
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Honking when you are cut off actually isn t an appropriate use of the horn (when most people honk after being cut off). You ve already been cut off and didn t hit the person. It s just a way to express your frustration. For example in Washington state the law reads: The driver of a motor vehicle shall when reasonably necessary to insure safe operation give audible warning with his or her horn but shall not otherwise use such horn when upon a highway Source: http: apps.leg.wa.gov rcw default.aspx?cite=46.37.380 The idea is that if someone starts to merge into your lane slowly you could honk to tell them they will be cutting you off or merging into you. Maybe that s what you meant now that I think of it.
2016-11-12 16:52:24
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Audio Speaker problem. Only front centre speaker working (model 3)
New Model 3. Every other time I start the car only the front centre speaker is working. Theres no bass at all only high end. When I open the audio balance preference and move the audio target to the back there is NO AUDIO. It works after a hard reset but im getting sick of having to reset every time. I reported bug through car.
2018-06-04 17:47:19
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Tell service. They may have to escalate it to a wiring diagnosis. No reason to put up with that.
2018-06-04 17:48:04
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Smart summon summon NEVER works on first try ?
Am I the only one that Summon takes a while to appear (become solid so I can tap it) and then almost invariably it never works on the first 1-2 times. I ll hold it and the car doesn t light up and then it says “summon failed” After two or three tries the headlights flash and then the summon procedure works well. What am I doing that makes this constant initial failure happen? I literally never have had it work on the first try
2020-05-27 00:43:39
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I have the same issue currently.
2020-05-27 01:03:52
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Issues with Smart Summon
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MCU2 - Is there a recent ~$250 Price Increase?
I just got a quote for an MCU2 upgrade for $1750 (AP2.5 HW3). The service center is telling me there has been a price increase. I can t find anything online about an MCU2 price increase. Tesla s site still says it s $1500: [https: www.tesla.com support infotainment](https: www.tesla.com support infotainment) There are also stories of people being misquoted and it seems suspicious that I can t find anything about this price change on the internet. Can anyone confirm the price change? &amp #x200B EDIT: Their website now shows the updated price: [https: www.tesla.com support infotainment](https: www.tesla.com support infotainment) so this is resolved .
2022-06-23 22:15:54
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This upgrade is available for $2 000 plus applicable tax including installation for vehicles equipped with Autopilot Computer 2.0 or 2.5 **and for $1 500 plus applicable tax including installation for all other vehicles.** The website says your install should cost $2k looks like you got a discount! The $1.5k is for **all other vehicles** whichever ones those may be.
2022-06-24 01:20:06
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AP1 vs AP2 observations
I m a 2017 Model S (AP2) owner who recently rented a 2016 Model X (AP1) through Turo when we went on vacation. I d like to get my wife out of her gas guzzler and into the X. So I put her behind the wheel of an X for a week hoping she d fall in love. On this point the rental was mostly successful woo-hoo! Anyway I also have thoughts on AP. I use AP2 all the time. 90% of my highway driving is AP2 which works well. I also do 50% of my non-highway driving w AP2 just for fun. Off highway AP2 doesn t work so well. I have a high risk tolerance a background in software testing and am happy to help train the car s software. I hit report bug several times per week. I ve bumped a few curbs :( but that s the price of progress I guess After driving an old AP1 car for about a week I wanted to share my observations. The TL DR is that AP1 is *much* better than my AP2 (sorry Elon). Hopefully they ll keep working on it and AP2 will eventually get better. What specifically did I observe in AP1 that s better than AP2? - AP1 can see 3 lanes of traffic. It shows my lane plus the two adjacent lanes. I only see my lane in AP2. - AP1 can tell when you re in the right-most or left-most lane. In these cases it correctly shows two lanes only (not three). While I didn t attempt it you probably can t accidentally drive off the highway with an erroneous turn signal when switching lanes. - AP1 shows vehicles in all three (or two) lanes. It uses the front facing camera only (side cameras are AP2 HW) and cars disappear as they pull alongside. Even though it has more cameras AP2 sees one lane and shows cars in that lane only. - AP1 can see the difference between cars trucks and motorcycles. I d never seen a truck or motorcycle on the display in AP2. It was a cool surprise. - AP1 is really smooth even off highway. There s no ping-ponging around the lane (like in AP2). My middle school daughter jokes that I m going to get pulled over for drunk driving on AP2 (off highway) Think we can convince the police officer that it was AP and not you driving so crazy? Can you get arrested for that? I joke that AP2 is like a near-sighted slightly inebriated teenage permit holder. My other daughter just got her driver s permit and she took offense I m not nearly that bad!!! Just to be clear both AP1 and AP2 work well on the highway. AP2 struggles off the highway when road configurations become more varied and lane markings less clear. Anyway I m a huge Tesla supporter and eagerly await AP2 improvements. I DO think that AP2 still has a long way to go to reach AP1-parity. (OK flame retardant suit on...) I think Elon has been prone to exaggeration on autonomous driving. He s talking about driving cross-country when AP2 still lags *last year s* MobileEye-based system. I suspect he may be able to do the x-country trip... if he picks the right parking lots on either end and the right superchargers in between and makes 500 attempts like the Paint it Black video around Palo Alto. This experience makes me wonder whether Tesla is actually better at autonomous driving or just better *talking* about it. Elon s great at pitching the future. If AP1 is still better than AP2 then does that mean the Intel MobileEye platform is better than Nvidia? Will other carmakers AP systems be better? I guess we ll see when they start launching and getting reviewed. The one thing that Tesla has going for it is risk-tolerance. They ll throw software out there get learnings feedback and make progress. Would be interested to hear other people s thoughts...
2017-07-17 01:52:19
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No flaming from this guy - I made similar observations on AP1 vs AP2.
2017-07-17 02:05:23
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Left turn signal issue
I had the annoying left turn signal issue on my 3-month old TM3 SR+ (where I could not activate the 3-flash mode - it would sometimes go continuous no matter how gently I pulled on the stalk) and having read a bunch of threads where people were discussing the exact same issue decided to bring the car in for service (San Diego - Miramar SC). They replaced the steering control module (M3 STEER COLMN CNTRL MODULE KOSTAL(1097662- 1.000-L)) but as soon as I drove off the problem re-appeared. They were quite surprised since it s supposed to be fixed in the L revision of the control module. They offered me to try another L part or wait \~1 week until they receive a newer M -revision part. I choose to wait for the newer part. Really surprised that this still has not been fixed! I welcome any recommendations from people who had this successfully resolved: was it just a part replacement or maybe it s a mechanical issue of some sort (loose connection etc)? Thanks!
2019-06-26 19:39:57
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Just a part replacement. Swapped out the steering column and I was good to go.
2019-06-26 19:42:19
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Tesla Daily Discussion - December 08 2018
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2018-12-08 09:10:42
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I can t believe I m part of the Tesla family. Ordered the day before yesterday still don t realize. Blue 3D - Aeros - White Interior - EAP. Feb March delivery.
2018-12-08 10:46:12
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2018 2019 Awd Model 3
Would they get the additional add on range of 15 miles as well? Wonder of it was some hardware tweaks that ended up giving it the extra range. If that s the case then it seems highly unlikely.
2020-03-15 12:53:06
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2018 AWD here on 2020.8 firmware. Rated range has stayed the same since purchase.
2020-03-15 13:25:46
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A discussion about the less popular refresh updates no ones talking about.
Am I the only one excited to see ventilated front seats coming back? I m also curious what Multi-device music means does this mean we can finally stream from 2 devices at once like I ve always wanted? Where are all 22 speakers going to be located? My guess would be 3 way components on each door 2 way center and a pair of 3 way components in the rear hatch complimented by a pair of subs in each side of the trunk. Will the rear screen be touchscreen? Can the front and rear screen play together multiplayer co-op? Show me that center console storage and cup holders! Auto lift gate. Does that mean we can finally open trunk with a foot swipe or just by approaching it? Phone key YESSS! but will there still be a key fob included for auto lift gate perhaps? How the hell will you activate autopilot or tacc? Carbon-sleeved rotors? Yes please Torque vectoring? What happened to the fog lights? They now look like blacked out model 3 y lights. Old fog lights helped headlights a lot in the dark. Have the headlights been updated so the DRLs don t brown out after a year? With the new rear aero diffuser it looks like it s been shaped for a tow hitch will it become an option? Where are the 7 seat options Elon promised would come back with plaid?
2021-01-28 06:01:29
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Rear screen is touch screen. My guess is yes they ll be looking to get games to support both screens. With wireless controllers for back passengers. I bet there is no key fob included. There is no need for one.
2021-01-28 06:36:52
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If I m in a call and then enter my car the call transfers to the car. I can hear them but they can t hear me.
Having a strange issue. If I initiate a call within the car everything works fine. If I m on a call outside of the car and then enter the car the call will flip over to the car I can hear them but they cannot hear me. I have to pick up the phone and switch the audio back to my iPhone and not use the cars speakers mic. Either that or I d have to hang up and call them back using the cars interface. Any ideas on that? Another thing that s been bothering me is if I say “Call xyz mobile” instead of just calling their mobile it populates a list of their home office mobile etc in the bottom left of the screen and I need to take my eyes off the wheel to scroll through (it s never the top of of course) and manually click the one I want. How do I get around that? I had this issue on my iphoneX on iOS 11.4 as well as iOS 12 beta 10. Car is 2018.32.2
2018-09-01 03:21:44
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Love all the tech in the car but phone integration is definitely something Tesla is lacking compared to the other major auto manufacturers. 1) My car gets stuck in a connecting loop for Bluetooth if I try to sync contacts. Android phone. Supposedly the issue is special characters in a contact but I didn t see any. 2) It won t auto switch to Bluetooth when my phone does something. For example I have a Tasker script to read text messages. The phone reads them through Bluetooth but the car ignores it unless the phone is the current audio source. 3) No Android auto 4) Probably my fault but I can t for the life of me figure out how to answer a call from the steering wheel controls. Reddit help would be appreciated here if anybody has a clever FAQ for this stuff they want to compile. -) All that said on the pro side: 1) The hands free mic audio quality is amazing. Great job on that one! 2) I have faith that it ll only get better - and for free. Definitely something no other auto maker can claim.
2018-09-01 05:15:01
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Spotify Integration Analysis
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Does anyone else think the new air filter Bioweapon button is actually pretty exciting?
Maybe I m alone here but I thought it was pretty awesome. I m guessing the Bioweapon button closes all the windows (and doors I guess) and switches to max filtration. With one button. I would use that **all the fucking time** -- stinky garbage trucks box trucks belching out soot an old car that burns oil motorcycles classic cars traffic jams freshly laid asphalt the list goes on... Also it s pretty weird to drive a zero-emission car and still be forced to breathe everyone else s emissions. Roads are where the pollution is concentration so shouldn t the air filter in your car be *especially* great?
2015-09-30 17:16:48
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That feature is going to be a big selling point in certain areas: ie like here in Los Angeles where you can see the crappy air quality as you sit in stop-n-go traffic on every highway. Also I think that feature will hit big with families who have kids (in general but also kids with health problems) as well as older people with health issues.
2015-09-30 17:40:16
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EV Charge Port Location
I was watching a video on the new Rivian EV s which look very exciting to me and I hope they get to market. While watching though I noticed they seem to charge from the front passenger side as opposed to the rear driver side which we have on all the Teslas. It got me thinking though most super charging stations are designed under the assumption that everyone is charging from the same place. Similarly I d put my home charger where I did because I want it close to the charge port. If that s going to be somewhere completely different on each car that seems like a giant pain in the ass and people will start using chargers from the wrong spot. So what say you.... should automakers agree to standardize this or are we going to repeat the same shit show that we suffered through with ICE scars and gas stations?
2018-12-05 00:27:20
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While you guys talk about it being in a convenient spot for plugging the charger into the car I m just going to mention that the bumpers are the parts of the car most likely to be involved in an accident. There s a reason there are bumpers there after all. I find it odd Rivian would put the charge port somewhere it would have the greatest chance of getting damaged and potentially become inoperable.
2018-12-05 02:03:03
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Voice Commands and Complex Automation with Apple (Siri) Shortcuts
Shortcuts has amazing potential for easy-to-construct voice-activated automations to interact with your car. To get started check out the shortcut I created below using Tim Dorr s API documentation to flash the lights. It can be activated by a custom Siri phrase of your choice. The next step is to integrate data gathered from the car and commands sent to the car into more complex automations that integrate lots of data types and different actions. Please share your Tesla-related shortcuts with the community! [https: www.icloud.com shortcuts 9f5011a3af3d4a6792f446dc3fd7b599](https: www.icloud.com shortcuts 9f5011a3af3d4a6792f446dc3fd7b599)
2018-09-25 05:34:06
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[This video is long but shows how cool shortcuts can be](https: youtu.be jZc8qMNiONo)
2018-09-25 08:50:03
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Bestla Tesla Companion App
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Possibly Unpopular Opinion: The Cybertruck is the best Tesla vehicle (or any brand vehicle) and it s not even close
Regardless of your opinion about the Cybertruck design as a vehicle it checks every box and on paper is quite possibly the best dollar for dollar vehicle ever designed and that includes every Tesla design to date. The $70k Cybertruck matches the Model S and Model X in performance and it beats them both in range and towing capacity and easily beats them in price. It crushes the Model 3 and Model Y in cargo space and utilitarian function. If the exterior is as durable as Elon claims it will blow away the durability of every other production vehicle available. I own a Toyota Tundra a Toyota Landcruiser and a Model S. The Cybertruck replaces all 3 of them without losing any of the function. If anything the Cybertruck will out perform the function of those 3 vehicles combined. At $70k for the highest end model I cannot think of another vehicle that will match the features available in the Cybertruck. &amp #x200B Congrats to Tesla on not only matching their best work to date but blowing past it as well as every other vehicle out there. Porsche Rivian Ford and every other vehicle manufacturer out there will not only have to play catch up on the electric battery side but now also on the body design and manufacturing side. To top it all off Space X now has a new customer with a huge appetite for the stainless steel it produces. Every investment in Space X manufacturing now doubles as an investment in Tesla manufacturing. It s genius and no one on the planet can currently compete with the vertical integration that Tesla is aiming for. &amp #x200B Prove me wrong.
2019-11-26 16:39:17
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The truck is much larger than a Model 3 (doesn t fit in my single garage) and is (probably) less efficient. It (probably) doesn t perform as well as the Model 3 in terms of cornering driving it around is (probably) a more difficult vs a sedan due to size. It s tires are (probably) more expensive.
2019-11-26 17:10:38
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Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck
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Your Thoughts on the Over Sticker for Model 3
This is a question I ve seen touched on before but no particular success in finding a comprehensive set of points of view (and if I ve failed please do guide me and close this post). I m in a position like many others that my car is on its way out. I live in Los Angeles traffic-central and am not in a financial position to purchase anything priced like a Model S or Model X. Having said that I am in a financial position to consider pursuing one of the hopefully legitimate ads on Craigslist to buy someones spot for their Model 3 reservation hereby looking at potential delivery in summer (paying $3-$5k for that opportunity rather than the $1k deposit and waiting until late next year for delivery). I ve rented a Model 3 via Turo to give the car an experience and I do feel it is an ideal choice for my family and habits. As a group of enthusiasts and owners what are your opinions on this? I m a huge lurker of this subreddit and even with my short experience at the Superchargers around So-Cal am eager to be a part of Tesla community (as a decent member and not a jerk who skipping the queue by paying).
2018-03-25 15:39:55
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Simple. If you want the car can afford the car and can get the car buy the car. Free markets are neat like that.
2018-03-25 15:57:36
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Using Spotify web interface remote + Bluetooth connected phone to play and control Spotify through model s web browser.
Just wondering. For those Spotify subscribers with a model s with a web browser: Have you tried using the Spotify web interface to control your bluetooth connected phone as a player? I am developing a similar system for Apple Music and want to know if I should bother building Spotify support. I want to be able to use Apple Music on the big screen and I feel like a web app would be the best way to do it. Adding more here to get past the auto filter that killed my first post.
2018-10-03 19:06:52
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Everyone complains about the lack of Spotify so if you can help with that people will really appreciate it.
2018-10-03 19:12:22
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Spotify Integration Analysis
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[Discussion] Kick Mats - has anyone found some that will work with Tesla front seats?
We have young kids and have used kick mats like these (Best Kick Mats with Backseat Organizer Pocket Storage – 100% Waterproof – 2 Pack https: www.amazon.com dp B01KY7X2JO) before. Most of them hook around the support posts for a headrest but Teslas don t have them. Given the unique seats in Tesla cars has anyone found some that will work? Any alternative solutions to protect the backs of the front seats (other than not putting the kids in the car they love it too much)?
2018-08-29 23:36:49
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&gt Any alternative solutions to protect the backs of the front seats (other than not putting the kids in the car they love it too much)? When my kids were young enough to kick the seats I d just take their shoes off. That provided a small amount of extra clearance and socks or bare feet would do less damage.
2018-08-29 23:52:42
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Someone stole my aero wheel cover
The title says it all. If you notice the rear one is slightly popped off too. Looks like they started to grab that one too but got spooked. Any idea how to get replacements? :(https: i.imgur.com XGaMjM6.jpg Edit: I may have been overly pessimistic. As someone in thread pointed out it may have simply fallen off while driving. I can t say with 100% certainty. Edit 2: 6 2 18 - Tesla service center replaced the lost Aero cover at no charge. Woot!
2018-05-20 21:04:48
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I ve seen some posts with aero covers in ditches. Maybe it was a little loose and fell off? I m an optimist I know.
2018-05-20 21:13:36
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Model Y Wheel Options
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WSJ: SEC has limited options to regulate Elon Musk - a recap and (hopefully lasting) conclusion to this controversy
Article here (June 2 2021): https: www.wsj.com articles sec-is-running-out-of-options-to-rein-in-elon-musk-11622670845 Non-paywall version here: https: archive.is VvBY9 This is important for Tesla because any further action in terms of limiting Musk s power at Tesla may have an adverse effect on the stock and future of the company. I ve always been a little wary of the SEC holding a grudge against Elon or even Tesla as a whole so this comes as good news to me. As a recap the SEC had previously tried to limit Elon Musk in his tweeting powers due to that infamous 420 tweet. Musk fought and half-won against the SEC with the judge saying they should both act like adults and sort out the argument between themselves. As a result of that adjudication the SEC has said that any tweets by Musk which may affect the financials of the stock price should be filtered by an independent group of people first before being let loose on the world. Elon has been complying. Sort of. As we can expect with someone of Elon s audaciousness and (what I consider to be) the SEC s eternal chip on their shoulder against the guy the friction between them hasn t subsided much. From the article: &gt The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that SEC officials wrote Tesla twice in 2019 and 2020 arguing that some of Mr. Musk s tweets should have undergone the required oversight. Tesla disagreed telling the SEC that his messages weren t within the scope of the agreement. It continues: &gt Regulators say Tesla never followed through with oversight while Mr. Musk has continued to tweet in a way that the SEC saw as violating the court-ordered policy The article then goes on to explain the SEC s reservation with further penalizing Elon: &gt “***Because Elon is so intertwined with this company any serious enforcement action against Musk has the potential to harm the company and shareholders ***” said David Rosenfeld a former SEC official now teaching law at Northern Illinois University. “***It could end up being counterproductive. Musk has been poking the bear because he knows he can get away with it.***” As a result the SEC have sort of given up trying to even contact and warn Tesla Musk for fear it may make them look weak if Tesla continues to ignore such requests. I quote from the article: &gt Given their hesitancy to litigate regulators have few options left. Senior SEC officials decided last year to stop writing to the company convinced it wasn t working and made the agency look powerless according to a person familiar with the matter. Hopefully this is the last we ll hear on the matter! (WSJ story originally found from yarrrrrrrrrr drama).
2021-06-04 16:36:25
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Where s the SEC s gusto with Robinhood? With Nikola Motors? With *half* of the shady shit that goes on in the upper echelons of investing? Musk ain t no saint half of the time but the SEC is a toothless corrupt useless waste of resources for retail investors. F\*\*\* right off.
2021-06-04 19:18:40
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How long has Tesla to deliver level 5 self driving to customers who bought that option?
I know that the plan is to have it in the next 3-4 years. But what if they don t manage to make it happen? Is there any time limit when you get your money back or could it be that you could wait 15 years and the car is already near the end of it s life cycle before you get the software or maybe even hardware update? Anything concrete in the contract about that?
2017-08-17 12:18:35
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No you wouldn t get your money back you are taking a gamble. But if you purchase FSD even if level 5 does not become available doesn t mean that you might not get some features through the FSD package. Look at EAP it s been around for years getting better and better and it s still not complete but I m sure most would say they would rather have the autopilot for the past 2 years than nothing at all till it s all ready. They might release early FSD features as soon as 3-6 months where it will simply recognize stop signs or traffic lights and come to a stop. Maybe a year after they will let it make turns... again not level 5 but at least you are doing less of the drive but still have be vigilant and prepared to take over.
2017-08-17 12:32:01
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Anyone here driven a P85D yet?
Perhaps in the demo on that day but maybe even outside that day with the neon lights?
2014-10-28 04:03:12
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I m in the queue to test drive it as soon as they have a P85D at Santana Row in San Jose. However I was told that it would be at best two weeks before I get my actual P85D (delivery changed from Dec 16-31 to December).
2014-10-28 04:26:40
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Mad Max: acts lax
Curious to hear your experiences with Nav on Autopilot “Mad Max” mode and specifically whether it serves the stated function of keeping you moving faster by positioning you in the fastest lane of traffic. My personal experience is that it generally has the *opposite* effect where I normally drive - which is metropolitan Atlanta. By observation I see 3 major problems with it: 1. Nav on AP is very timid changing lanes and can t quickly capitalize on beneficial lane changes thus missing out. 2. The AP system can t see far enough ahead to understand whether the “faster lane” is actually faster more than a few car lengths ahead - so it makes bad decisions about this especially in dense traffic. 3. Nav on AP defaults to slowing down to make a lane transition often negating the effects of moving to a faster lane and giving up positions to let several cars go by. As a bonus item: I ve observed that I almost always end up in the original lane and almost always further back than if I had just held my position in the original lane. What say you all? The same experience? Different? Better? Worse?
2018-11-07 17:47:42
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Same experience. I ignore most suggested lane changes.
2018-11-07 17:51:30
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Comparison of NN training of Dojo with the current computing setup?
I m interested to understand the impact of using Dojo for training of the NNs with respect to Tesla s current computing setup.To clarify:- Could we estimate the current setup in terms of raw computing power (versus the Dojo 1.1 exascale)?- It is stated training of Tesla s Autopilot Neural Net currently takes 2 weeks. Would it be possible to estimate how much faster this would on Dojo? Assumptions:The current setup consists of 11544 GPU s of which 9792 are used for training. https: preview.redd.it 5fouafk3qrk71.jpg?width=1024&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=7cb1532f2d915a2fe7206663300d34cc2b370c4a https: preview.redd.it p9l7z9k3qrk71.jpg?width=1024&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=d02b1aa6e1288b80c73f992f9720eb1017a58f51 &amp #x200B
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E.g. assuming that each GPU has 10 TFLOPS of computing power the 9792 GPU s would mean about 100 petaFLOPS or 0.1 exaFLOPS of computing power.If this assumption is realistic DOJO would be about 10x faster in terms of computing power. Training time also depends on quick memory access and node bandwidth so it DOJO could have improvements there as well.So training could maybe go 10 - 100x as fast (or the trainingset could include 10 - 100x more data and still be ready in 2 weeks)? What do you think?
2021-08-31 22:25:06
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Car says needs to connect to WiFi to download update but is connected
I have a model 3 which I got in May and it s never had a WiFi connection issue before always downloading them as they became available but about a week ago my car started saying it couldn t download the available software update as it wasn t connected to WiFi. However the screen (see screenshot - https: imgur.com KGvfZrK) says it is connected to WiFi. I ve rebooted the touch screen rebooted the car and rebooted the router. I ve also forgotten the network and reconnected to it but still no dice. As for the network itself it s xfinity provided WiFi on their standard dual band router which presents as a single network (xfinity no longer lets me separate it into two separate networks but that change was made months ago when I got a new router). My other devices connect fine (laptop phone) though my oculus occasionally gets in a state where I have to reboot it to get it to connect back to the WiFi. Any thoughts or suggestions people might have would be greatly appreciated as I don t want my car stuck on an older version of the software! Thanks. Update: thanks for all the ideas - I contacted text support via the website and they sent a push to my car so that when I got home it did connect and then download and install the update. Problem solved!
2019-12-16 16:10:18
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Had the same thing happened. Go to the Tesla app on your phone press schedule service choose software update and explain your problem.
2019-12-16 16:19:39
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Car Software Update Connectivity
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Tesla Android App
It s listed as beta (or at least it used to be) so these issues might be expected but I ve had this app crash so often that my phone keeps asking me if I want to uninstall it because it s effecting the performance of my phone. Also the From Elon button at the top just leads to an error message. Anybody know what it s supposed to do. The behavior is the same on my Galaxy S6 and my boyfriend s Droid Turbo.
2015-12-23 22:52:17
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Mine never works unless I go in and kill the old process first. If I don t I get the old could not establish a connection with your car and a message about how I can have it always online and whatnot it s definitely not 100% yet but it has improved somewhat
2015-12-23 23:56:25
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Bestla Tesla Companion App
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Tesla w o Indoor Parking - High Voltage Outlet
Hello. I am considering a Tesla Y 7 seater for my families (me+wife+ 2 young kids child safety seats) next vehicle. Is it practical without an indoor parking spot and high-speed charger? The Whole Foods has a charger. How many miles could I get in 45m shopping trip...assuming I go back to shopping in stores after the pandemic. If I do filler up to 300 miles will the battery charge go down just sitting in the driveway? In the New England summer heat? In the New England winter cold? Anything else I should consider before plopping down $100 to reserve mine? Also tips to convince my wife would be appreciated :)
2020-11-17 20:49:27
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do you have access to a 120v outlet? If so that will deal with normal day-to-day driving on a short commute shopping around town and similar stuff. As for how much you ll get at whole foods it depends on the wattage of the charger.
2020-11-17 20:59:06
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Model X Raven Delivery Time
Hey all Put my order in for a custom Model X on Sunday. Just wondering if anyone here has ordered any custom model x recently and when they took delivery. The website said within 2 weeks but my account status hasn t changed. Read some posts on other forums that said it would take longer than what they posted an am looking to see other people s experiences. My advisor told me white is now the most ordered exterior color now so it should be faster?
2019-08-16 23:52:08
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I m in Cleveland OH wrecked my S on the 22nd of July. Ordered my X on Aug 2nd. Got assigned a VIN on the 12th. Just got my delivery date of the 23rd yesterday. Takes a while to ship across the country. In Cali you ll probably get it closer to the 2 weeks I have to wait another two damnit )
2019-08-17 01:08:35
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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MCU Upgrade vs Car Upgrade
Hey folks I have a 2014 ‘driver s edition Model S. The screen has started to fail and is developing a weird black ‘bubble along the top and also the MCU is just generally slow. This car doesn t have Autopilot or even parking sensors. The cost to replace the MCU is $2 500 and I m wondering at which point does it make sense to trade it in or sell for a newer car. Don t get me wrong we love driving it and don t mind that it doesn t have autopilot but I hate the idea of throwing a decent chunk of money at a car that won t appreciate in value as a result. We are also in the process of buying a Y to replace our 2008 Prius so we re looking forward to that. Any input from the community would be super helpful!
2020-11-09 19:17:30
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My friend considers his MCU upgrade the best add-on he s gotten from Tesla. But he has a 2017 (I believe) with FSD. Personally I d upgrade to a new car vs putting $2500 into a non-autopilot vehicle. But how long are you planning on keeping the 2014 with no Autopilot? If 5 years then maybe it s worth it.
2020-11-09 19:47:54
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Adding 1 000 Watts to a Model 3
## https: preview.redd.it fcd5j9vffxr31.jpg?width=715&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=bc8506835718403f016a7ed09c0b6f7d1fac00d4 ## [Model 3 Sound Project](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 16 model-3-sound-project ) This 8-part series documents adding 1 000 Watts of audio to my Model 3 and aims to help others do it too. Though half of the content is Model 3 specific (parts 2 - 5) the other parts should be applicable to any vehicle. I couldn t have done this on my own and much of what I learned was a community effort. I wanted to give back and share what I learned along the way. &amp #x200B &amp #x200B https: preview.redd.it 0hlv6ryadxr31.jpg?width=184&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=7bfd0af241442cb23af86f24f2dc708d1964e9f8 [Project Overview](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 16 model-3-sound-project ) Main home page of the series. How the project came to be and direct links to all other parts below. If you want to just bookmark one thing bookmark this. &amp #x200B &amp #x200B https: preview.redd.it 9aha2qeedxr31.jpg?width=184&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=d822358310bcfcc3ca3d58d31239564cee33a418 [Enclosure](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 17 m3s-enclosure ) Ported vs Sealed. How to build a custom enclosure for the 3. How to make your box almost 50% lighter! https: preview.redd.it q71xwg3zfxr31.jpg?width=184&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=843f0083d331103d5850736f1a1cc876f69b3f75 [Storage](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 18 m3s-storage ) It *is* possible to have a large enclosure without totally giving up on storage. Here s an easy way to create some space while also making a form-fitting shelf for the Model 3. &amp #x200B https: preview.redd.it uj4agvv0gxr31.jpg?width=184&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=73ef3cc695321f4cbbc7c569619f2bd92d51204d [Power](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 22 m3s-power ) Power is one of the most challenging things to get right in the Model 3 but I strive to get this down to a science. I show plans for a compact yet highly reliable trickle charging circuit as well as provide a photographic map of where everything connects in the car. &amp #x200B https: preview.redd.it gjjxn9l2gxr31.jpg?width=184&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=e80c3f17259e99b784b6ce26137408eec08a406c [Tap and Layout](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 22 m3s-tap-and-layout ) Did you realize that nobody seems to completely agree on how to tap the stock subwoofer? In this post I cover my tap as well as how (and why) I arranged the equipment the way I did. &amp #x200B https: preview.redd.it qyt1rvb4gxr31.jpg?width=184&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=ef79e6d71c64ad5ba5c0aed6ebb66cd3b1ce25f6 [Level Control](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 23 m3s-level-control ) Without a dash finding a good place to mount the level control can be a bit of a task. Several users have documented where they mounted their RLCs but I never saw how anyone hid the connection box or routed the wire. I cover both in detail. &amp #x200B https: preview.redd.it qadue1y5gxr31.jpg?width=184&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=72f512b90c7deb9b2b46eaf8055428e966cf599a [Retention](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 26 m3s-retention ) Did you know the Model 3 Performance edition can accelerate at 0.83 G s? Watch a video of what happens when an enclosure isn t anchored down then a look at (non-damaging) ways to fix it. &amp #x200B https: preview.redd.it 1fizbsi7gxr31.jpg?width=184&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=ed289db555af4b2fa27b7edb0482cd68ff09a09a [DSP](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 29 m3s-dsp ) Even if you don t read any other posts this is the one to see. I m sure you ve seen people say things like There s a ton of bass probably too much or It s really boomy I need to make some adjustments . When I first finished my install I was *not* happy. It didn t sound right at all and no amount of messing with gain or low-pass filter could fix it. I finally sat down and learned how to use a DSP. The good news is that subwoofers in the Model 3 *can* be tuned to sound **amazing**. I ve done all the legwork and I provide you with the only file you need. This mod will run you about $100 bucks but it s worth *every* penny and I have the science (and photos) to back it up. &amp #x200B https: preview.redd.it n53aliz8gxr31.jpg?width=184&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=0e88f6904aa64123ab02d21930a1639a74eced82 [Calibration](https: jared.bienz.com 2019 09 29 m3s-calibration ) Do you have a Model 3 without premium sound? Or do you have any other vehicle that you d like to DSP like the article above? This final post shows how to calibrate any speakers for any vehicle using the same hardware and a $90 microphone. I had fun with this project and I learned SO much. Thanks again to everyone who helped along the way and if you have any questions at all please don t hesitate to ask!
2019-10-11 14:58:45
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I admire you. This is craftsmanship dedication and generosity.
2019-10-11 15:13:29
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Tesla sound system comparisons
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Are the 20700 battery cells capable of fitting inside the current battery pack shell in the same vertical configuration as the 18650s?
If so the finished battery pack containing the new cells can keep its form factor and be interchangeable with current cars. Any engineers here with knowledge of the pack s dimensions and whether or not the 20700s can stack inside the pack s height limits?
2016-06-15 19:55:16
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It s not impossible but would require something else to get thinner or for them to be packed in horizontally instead of vertically (which makes a lot of things very complicated). If they use 20700 s in a replacement pack I think it is more likely they just design the pack to be 5mm thicker since having the pack impact shield 5mm lower on the car shouldn t really be much of an issue.
2016-06-15 19:58:32
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Tesla Battery Production Optimization
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Tesla Model 3 LR in the Snow
I live in the Northeast which just got hit hard with snow. Today and last night was the first time driving in the snow in my new M3 LR. I have to say the car is fantastic in the snow even without snow tires. The AWD is far more precise than the BMW 3 Series X Drive and the BMW X-Drive platform is considered the best AWD in the industry (even Audi copied it around 2017). Point the steering wheel where you want to go keep slight pressure on the gas and it simply just goes with minimal fuss. I hear people recommend you turn Regenerative Braking to low in the snow. In my experience I found it works better left in High Normal. There is a learning curve to having to keep your foot on the gas even when going down a steep hill but once you get the knack you are golden. You can tell that low center of gravity and the weight of the vehicle really contribute with driving comfort in the snow. I even tried autopilot in the snow on the highway and it worked really well. The cameras could barely see the lines but it must be able to lock into the clear spots other vehicles leave in the road with their tracks. &amp #x200B Time to get some snow tires and see how it really does.
2020-12-17 15:02:10
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Nokian Hakk s and it s even better.
2020-12-17 15:58:37
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I scheduled a Model S test drive but my friends and I are only 20! Will they let the 3 of us check out (and lets be honest orgasm over) their car?
If anyone else has scheduled a test drive before have there been any requirements other than a valid drivers license and car insurance? Obviously I ll be dressed pretty nicely (you don t survive 3 years at a private Ivy heavy finaid or not without picking up a few fashion tips) but should I plan on suiting up to look the part? Basically I m worried the three of us will get turned away once they see us. **Update: turns out the 25+ age limit is a strict company policy but he can still give us a test ride in it. I m going to say yes for now and see if we can t charm the manager when we re there.**
2013-02-14 15:44:20
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When I test drove it in Denver during Christmas break I was only 21 (22 now) and went with 3 friends. I had scheduled the appointment a couple weeks ahead but nevertheless I was worried we were going to get denied. Nope! The lady was actually really chill! (and all I needed to do was scan my drivers license and sign a waiver). I got to floor the shit out of the Model S... and DAMN it is by far the fastest car I ve ever driven (and I ve driven cars that cost twice the price of the Model S Performance). DO IT! It s an awesome experience!
2013-02-14 17:38:08
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Tesla test drive experiences
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Tesla Daily Discussion - August 28 2019
**Use this daily thread for:** - Topics of the day or week - Basic Questions and Answers - Sightings Vehicle Customization Vanity Plates - Orders or Deliveries - Shop Items Discussion (Toys Apparel Gifts etc) **Vehicle Issues or Bugs?** If you have a concern about a potential bug [try our new Support page first](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support). **Why buy a Tesla?** [Here is a long list of reasons](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki topreasons) why owners love their cars and [here you can find the most recent software updates](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) rolling out to vehicles (including megathreads for each version). Looking for useful sites that are often talked about? [There s a wiki page](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) for that too. **Resources** Check out the [Gigathread of Resources](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments a2f6gl gigathread_of_resources ) thread for more recent resources and highlights along with our sidebar for tracking progress of software releases and owner links. We also have Wiki links below. **Cleaning Detailing Tips?** Check out r AutoDetailing they are much more comprehensive. **Looking for comparisons?** Searching the sub first really helps as there are likely MANY discussions on a similar topic (of which the answers you re looking for likely did not change much) **Other helpful links**: [Discord Chat](https: discord.gg 7WuEqAW) [Most Common Acronyms](http: decronym.xyz acronyms TeslaMotors) [Popular Podcasts](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki podcasts) [Previous daily threads (or all megathreads)](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=flair_name%3A%22Megathread%22&amp restrict_sr=1) Related Communities - r TeslaLounge | r TeslaInvestorsClub | r TeslaPorn | r TeslaClassifieds | r Superchargers | r TeslaAutonomy | r TeslaModel3 (more in the sidebar) **Wiki Pages** [Overview](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki index) | [About Us](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki about) | [FAQ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki faq) | [Accessories](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki accessories) | [Did You Know?](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki didyouknow) | [Useful Sites](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) | [OTA Software Megathreads](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) | [Top Reasons](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki topreasons) | [Support](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support) | [Moderation](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki moderation) **Please be kind** [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. If you want to share a photo you can easily create an image link at [Imgur Upload](https: upload.imgur.com) and include it in your comment.
2019-08-28 09:13:43
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I just had someone rush across a busy carpark at least 30mph to tell me I had more money than brains. Slightly confusing to be told you ve made a poor purchase by someone who s whole life seems to be a collection of poor choices. Twice now someone has shouted at whilst in the model 3p. What is it about this this car that makes people so jealous? I feel bad for you model s owners!
2019-08-28 13:55:48
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
18,574
Daily Discussion + Support Thread - September 15
**Use this recurring thread for:** - Basic Questions and Answers - Vehicle Help and Support - Topics of the day or week - Sightings Vehicle Customization Vanity Plates - Orders or Deliveries - Shop Items Discussion (Toys Apparel Gifts etc) **Vehicle Issues or Bugs?** If you have a concern about a potential bug [check out our Support page first](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support). **Gigathread of Resources** Check out the [Gigathread of Resources](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments cdxuwh gigathread_of_resources ) thread for more recent resources and highlights. **Why buy a Tesla?** [Here is a long list of reasons](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki topreasons) why owners love their cars and [here you can find the most recent software updates](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) rolling out to vehicles (including megathreads for each version). Looking for useful sites that are often talked about? [There s a wiki page](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) for that too. **Cleaning Detailing Tips?** Check out r AutoDetailing they are much more comprehensive. **Looking for comparisons?** Searching the sub first really helps as there are likely MANY discussions on a similar topic (of which the answers you re looking for likely did not change much). Searching vs. could definitely help you find past threads. **Other helpful links**: [Discord Chat](https: discord.gg 7WuEqAW) [Most Common Acronyms](http: decronym.xyz acronyms TeslaMotors) [Popular Podcasts](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki podcasts) Related Communities - r TeslaLounge | r TeslaInvestorsClub | r TeslaPorn | r TeslaClassifieds | r Superchargers | r TeslaAutonomy | r TeslaModel3 (more in the sidebar) **Wiki Pages** [Overview](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki index) | [About Us](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki about) | [FAQ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki faq) | [Accessories](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki accessories) | [Did You Know?](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki didyouknow) | [Useful Sites](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) | [OTA Software Megathreads](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) | [Top Reasons](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki topreasons) | [Support](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support) | [Moderation](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki moderation) **Please be kind** [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. If you want to share a photo you can easily create an image link at [Imgur Upload](https: upload.imgur.com) and include it in your comment.
2019-09-15 09:09:23
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Just a random thought. I often notice people waving from their Tesla as they drive by and I wave back. It would be awesome if there was a fun little ping option or something where you could tap on your car and the UI looks like it sends out a pulse wave and if a nearby Tesla has that feature enabled they could hear a little ping. Then maybe somewhere there could be a list of users that have pinged you and what model of car they were and where it was. It would be a fun way to say hello and could be like a little street pass feature like on the Nintendo 3DS. I d like to see that feature in the future. That and maybe Spotify.
2019-09-15 15:18:33
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Turmoil in dealership models. Tesla s no-haggle direct order direct price is affirmed.
Here s three recent articles reflecting the disruption going on with the dealership models. &amp #x200B \- First we are seeing Audi s tentativeness by pretending to use dealerships to take orders but the elephant in the room is dealerships are hesitant to carry inventory due to cannibalization fears. They re in a quandary: [https: electrek.co 2018 09 24 audi-electric-e-tron-suv-dealerships-inventory ](https: electrek.co 2018 09 24 audi-electric-e-tron-suv-dealerships-inventory ) \- Second this is going on: [http: www.autonews.com article 20180924 RETAIL 180929954 pollak-days-are-numbered-for-days-on-the-lot-pricing](http: www.autonews.com article 20180924 RETAIL 180929954 pollak-days-are-numbered-for-days-on-the-lot-pricing) . It s an inside look at the pressures to high-ball prices based on days-on-lot metrics and other sales gimmicks which the author feels is under pressure and needs to be dropped. \- Lastly this: [https: www.wsj.com articles used-car-sales-boom-as-new-cars-get-too-pricey-for-many-1537700401](https: www.wsj.com articles used-car-sales-boom-as-new-cars-get-too-pricey-for-many-1537700401) New ICE cars are getting pricey so buyers turning to used cars. Fails to mention that buyers are turning to EVs as well.
2018-09-24 20:23:52
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I have a friend who works in service at MINI he said they openly tell him not to sell the electric mini not that he s in sales but if asked don t say anything positive about it.
2018-09-24 20:55:37
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
21,526
Elon: Supercharging while towing. Solved.
I ve not seen or heard anyone talk about this nor see anything in the articles or YouTube reviews.... During the cybertruck presentation it was stated the Cybertruck would have all the normal Tesla software available (AutoPilot FSD AutoPark...) AND *trailer docking*! So imagine pulling up to a parking lot hoping out to lower trailer stand then the truck auto undocks and then when you re done Supercharging you drive over and it auto docks back again.
2019-11-24 17:46:22
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It s just lining the truck up with the trailer while backing up. Let s not go *Model 3 HUD* again.
2019-11-24 18:40:45
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Federal tax credit for lease?
Can people obtain the Federal tax credit if you choose to lease a Tesla? I think the answer is No but wanted to make sure. thx
2017-04-04 22:35:38
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Not directly. The owner gets the credit which would be the company you lease from. They do adjust the price of the vehicle to account for the credit though.
2017-04-04 22:38:42
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Tesla Lease Experience Considerations
6,565
Help with good driving habits
Background: I own a October 2019 SR+ rated for 250 post 5% power increase late last year. Since delivery I have never been able to charge above ~230miles. I understand how cold weather diminishes overall range (its -5F here today) and standard battery degradation over time. My battery charges to 100% so I am not concerned about degradation. I am not complaining about supposed range loss due to these factors or range loss in general. Over the months I ve contacted Tesla service to see how I can better change my driving charging habits to have the main UI range estimator increase to what the car should be rated for (anywhere between 240-250miles). They have their usual reply of its based on driving habits and supercharging frequency the later of which I do very rarely. I have never been able to get more detailed information on their driving habits and what I should do to maximize the shown range. I was wondering if the community would have any further knowledge on these good driving habits or if anyone has insight into what exactly goes into the formula to display the estimated range when charging.
2020-02-14 16:38:07
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The main UI range estimator does not change base on driving habits. It only changes with degradation and temperature.
2020-02-14 16:46:12
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Model 3 SR+ RWD VS. Long Range RWD
I recently put in my order for the model 3 SR+. At first I thought that the 240mi would be enough for me but then I started learning that there are many other factors that can make that distance lessen(heating in winter only charging to 80% and battery degradation over time.) Do you guys think the Long Range Rear Wheel Drive is worth the $6000 price difference?
2019-06-02 00:37:15
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I bought a SR+. I have a 80 mile round-trip commute. I have noticed that it roughly uses 17-20% every 40 miles going 70-80 mph on highway. If that sounds okay to you then stick with what you feel comfortable affording. If you have FSD on the SR+ I would drop that and get the LR RWD.
2019-06-02 01:31:20
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Free one year of Supercharging for Model Y s and Model 3 s! Must take delivery by 12-31!
From Electrek (citing a memo from Musk):. “Effective December 12 to December 31st all undelivered Model 3sand Model Y vehicles (excluding Model 3 Standard Range) that deliver by December 31st will receive one year of Free Supercharging.”
2020-12-13 07:28:17
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Dam elon got something against standard range taking delivery of mine next week. 😬 might have to cancel so he won t get to his goal of 500k. Take that musk.
2020-12-13 11:43:56
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Tesla Referral Program Issues
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If you deposit $2 500 before Nov 1st for a Model Y with Full Self Driving you can save $2 000 on the final price.
Elon has stated the price of FSD is going to increase $1 000 on Nov 1st. There is a good chance it will increase again in the next 8 months as more features get completed. If you lock in the cost today of $6 000 you can still wait 8 months until you actually complete the purchase - when it is quite likely to be $8 000 or more. Therefore if you are planning on getting an early Y if you place your order before November 1st you might get your vehicle a good bit cheaper than some others with FSD. [Put mine down](https: i.imgur.com F95RATa.jpg)
2019-10-28 01:24:50
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Oh sweet summer child it s so cute that you think that there is any actual plan as to what Tesla is going to price the various option packages.
2019-10-28 01:26:46
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
9,510
Just received phone interview invite after only 5 days of submitting my app (Freemont plant)
Title says it all. It is a management posistion I was not expecting the speedy response. I am from the midwest so if I were to land the job It would require relocation. If anyone has any first hand accounts or information about what they offer it would be greatly appreciated!
2016-09-29 20:31:42
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$80k feels like minimum wage if you re planning to rent an apartment within 20 miles ($1500-2500 easily) keep that in mind
2016-09-29 20:52:09
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Career Decision - Tesla vs. Ford
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Tesla Daily Discussion - August 01 2018
What s this thread? [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this daily thread for questions and answers general daily topic discussion and sharing your experiences (sightings orders deliveries custom vehicles vanity plates and now memes). Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22&amp restrict_sr=on&amp include_over_18=on&amp sort=new&amp t=all). Latest Idea Feedback Megathread [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Idea%2FFeedback+Megathread%22&amp restrict_sr=on&amp include_over_18=on&amp sort=new&amp t=all). Most recent OTA Software Megathreads [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates). Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback.
2018-08-01 09:14:01
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Line waiter AWD LR + enhanced autopilot order on June 31 estimated delivery Sep 18 - Nov 18 just had my edit button disappear. Was there yesterday. I guess I better get my loan in order!
2018-08-01 17:20:57
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Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors
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So... where exactly are all the other vehicle manufacturers going to get their batteries from for their upcoming EVs?
Tesla has embarrassed the other major car manufactures in the world into fully committing (at least in rhetoric) to electric vehicles for the future. A lot of them have promises for all electric long range vehicles right around the corner. Audi says starting in [2018 they will have a new all EV vehicle every year](http: fortune.com 2016 05 12 audi-plans-to-launch-a-new-electric-vehicle-model-every-year ) GM has got their bolt coming out in 2017 plus their current volt hybrid Nissan of course has their leaf which they will be making a [200+ mile range version in 2018](http: gas2.org 2015 11 03 2018-nissan-leaf-will-have-200-mile-range ) VW has got some stuff in the works Ford is doing the EV Focus then there is Faraday Future BMW has their i-series thing the list goes on and on. So Tesla themselves said in order to accomplish the kind of market penetration they wanted they would have to consume all the Lithium ion batteries produced by humans in 2014. Clearly not a feasible solution. So they were forced to make their own. With all these new electric cars showing up from other manufactures in 2017 &amp 2018. Where exactly are they going to get all these batteries from? Are there hidden battery factories beneath the earth s crust being developed in secret just waiting to surprise everyone? Will they just end up with simply a huge supply shortcoming? Do they expect low demand? Will they have to buy them....from... from... Tesla? Will the battery market for those not making their own batteries experience a price explosion? I m not a logistics guy... but does anyone know if their is capacity for these other players in the very near future?
2016-08-30 01:21:17
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The entire concept behind the Gigafactory is to produce enough for the world not just Tesla. Elon has stated several times that there is enough demand to warrant a second Gigafactory in the US although currently I believe they are looking at Japan to service the Asia region. All other major suppliers are now talking with current suppliers and looking at constructing their own factories as well. [Volkswagen] (https: global.handelsblatt.com breaking exclusive-vw-considers-building-own-battery-factory) [Tesla] (http: inhabitat.com elon-musk-wants-to-build-tesla-gigafactories-all-around-the-world ) [LG] (http: www.carscoops.com 2016 04 lg-chem-will-build-electric-car-battery.html) [Samsung] (http: www.wsj.com articles samsung-sdi-lg-chem-face-setback-in-china-on-electric-car-batteries-1466496080) It s important to remember that due to Tesla s all electric range there is no alternative. They need a larger supply and they need it to be independent from other suppliers otherwise they could face slow downs which could really hurt them. If Ford GM experience a battery slow down they ve got their ICE sales to prop them up. Tesla has zilch. Also due to Tesla s plans of expanding their product range to buses trucks and more I wouldn t be surprised if we hear about either the second gigafactory location being scoped or a new production facility for the larger vehicles in the next few months.
2016-08-30 01:59:28
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
17,449
No Wait Time for Cable Organizer!
[https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-s\_x\_3-cable-organizer.html](https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-s_x_3-cable-organizer.html) Not sure why the link still says you must wait at least 4 weeks for the item to be fulfilled but I ordered last week and received it today. Get it while it s available!
2018-07-10 03:22:10
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Also print one.. any color you want and same day: https: www.thingiverse.com thing:1239550
2018-07-10 07:13:56
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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Sentry dashcam viewing is much smoother now (2020.48.26)
The latest update made reviewing dashcam sentry footage much smoother.
2020-12-29 01:49:07
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Wait... scrubbing? Is there actual scrubbing now not just play from where you stop dragging? I ll have to go play with this.
2020-12-29 02:02:35
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Issues with Sentry Mode
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Thankful (and sad) that others don t understand Superchargers.
Needed to fill er up from near-empty after a long weekend. Headed down to the Mountain View Supercharger. 6 slots taken 6 open. 4A 4B 5A and 5B are all occupied. 1B and 2B are occupied. 3A 3B 6A and 6B are all open. It s late on a Sunday but coincidentally I pull into the parking lot behind 2 other Teslas. The smart move for EITHER of them would be to go to either of the 3s or either of the 6s. Instead one of them goes to 1A and the other goes to 2A. Instead of getting a dedicated circuit to themselves each of them decided to split a circuit. Additionally they screwed 1B and 2B by slowing their charging rate. I happily pull over to 6B start charging on my own circuit. Here s where I m thankful others don t understand! But of course I m wondering if anybody else will be showing up at 10pm on a Sunday. Sure enough another car pulls in from the street. With 3A and 3B wide open they... pull into 6A. *SIGH* After they plug in I watch my lovely 120kw rate drop and here s where I m sad that others don t understand. :( --- (While I was typing this my new friend 6A must ve remembered his basic Supercharger training. He unplugged backed out and headed over to 3B) *phew*
2017-08-28 05:02:52
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I m going to bed in an hour and mine is charging in the garage downstairs :)
2017-08-28 05:16:36
47
Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Has anyone had experience with mice in their Tesla?
Hello &amp #x200B I am hoping to purchase a Tesla in the near future but I have a unique problem to contend with. I live in the middle of nowhere (no pathed roads just hills and farms) and my current car (Honda Civic) and other family vehicles are constantly being inhabited by mice (despite the use of traps poisons baits Irish Spring dryer sheets etc.). I m not talking just the engine bay I mean literally living in the interiors of our cars. I was wondering if y all knew how air tight the M3s are... Essentially do you think Teslas have fewer holes in them than ICE vehicles? &amp #x200B Has anyone had any experience with mice in any part of their Tesla? I d hate to spend money on a vehicle nicer than my current car if it just means it s going to be destroyed by mice again and I m seeking a bit of reassurance... &amp #x200B Thank you!
2020-05-13 01:52:59
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I posted this a few days ago: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments gg27iy anyone_ever_have_a_mouse_in_their_tesla I ve spent a ton of time looking for anywhere they could get in. Couldn t find anything. Came to the conclusion it probably got in when the battery was removed for service.
2020-05-13 02:59:47
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
7,577
The Tesla Factory is building your Model S
Got my status updated today. So excited.
2013-12-13 00:29:46
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It s interesting to think that what was mostly rolls of aluminum and a box of battery cells last week will be a complete car in a couple days. Congratulations! Looking forward to hearing your delivery story.
2013-12-13 03:18:24
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Would tesla be open for other manufacturers to use its destination chargers?
Would tesla be open for other manufacturers to use its destination chargers the way they are open for others to use the Superchargers? Any guesses? Haven t found anything public...
2016-04-14 11:34:30
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Tesla has stated they would be open to other manufacturers to use the Supercharger network so it would stand to reason the same would go for destination chargers. No other manufacturer has adopted the Tesla charging standard yet but perhaps it will happen some day.
2016-04-14 11:47:40
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
23,930
Tesla Music with iTunes
Hey On my tesla it tries to get new album art than the ones I pre-selected in itunes to my iphone. Is there a way to get it to display the ones i chose on itunes? These are uploaded mp4s to itunes not store bought.
2017-09-18 21:56:36
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No unfortunately Bluetooth doesn t send the artwork just the music and some very basic metadata.
2017-09-18 23:40:39
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Spotify Integration Analysis
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Premium connectivity and sub par spotify bitrate
I was shocked to learn that Spotify quality is limited to 96kbps even when paying for « premium connectivity » and « premium sound pack » for the car as well as having a paid Spotify premium account. Spotify and AM are rolling out HD and we can t even get the same quality I had when downloading mp3s on napster 20years ago. From what I understand everyone is using Bluetooth from their phone but that kinda defeats the purpose of having an integrated Spotify app in car if you need to choose between quality and convenience ? I just don t get it. Does anyone have any information of this changing in the near future ?
2021-06-05 22:39:24
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this annoys me too. I do have to say that you cant compare 96kbps with a modern codec vs what we had 20 years ago. I have some old 128kbps mp3s from the 2000s here and they sound aweful. the codec has come a long way. HOWEVER you CAN definetely hear that the sound quality is suffering compares to 320kbs mp3s with microdistortions dodgy highend and a slightly flat sound on many tracks. It s usually really obvious if you switch to usb. I think it is not excuseable when one pays 10 dollars month. Thats more than enough to cover unlimited data and spotify premium (Tesla buys these in bulk so they are gonna get a hefty hefty discount. They have like... what 2-3 million cars?). there should be an option to at least increase this to 256kbps imho.
2021-06-05 23:20:22
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Spotify Integration Analysis
15,524
Tinting only rear windows?
Anyone only get the rear windows tinted but not the hatch window? We just had a baby and my wife wants the rear windows tinted but we cannot decide on the hatch window.
2017-09-17 13:22:07
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If you have a rear facing car seat you ll probably want to do the hatch as well. The sun will shine through the back at certain angles and will hit the car seat.
2017-09-17 13:40:41
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Ceramic Coating Application Process
21,204
Who has the lowest eletric rate? Mine is $0.0003 kwh
So my electric cost is $0.0003 from my provider + $0.035 oncor cost. For a grand total of $0.03503 kwh. I live in allen texas. 24 month contract. I dont own a Tesla but I wish I did. I drive a chevy cruze 2012 LT and get 30mpg. Looking to get a model 3 or bolt which ever has better lease deal. Sadly model 3 will have to wait till 2019 and bolt is ugly but functional and out of stock. Edit: The point im trying to make is my electric rate is super low and gas prices are ok but I burn so much. Im in a dire need of a electric car with 200+ miles per charge at around 30-40k because I would be saving around $100 a month and $1200 a year but I cant do that because model 3 wont be avalible till 2019 and bolt is ugly and not in stock to even be considerd near me. If bolt looked anything even close to a good looking car I would drive to cali and pick one up. But no... in chevies mind if you make an electric car then it must be fugly.
2017-07-06 11:18:50
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Free from the sun. I still have to pay the electric company $12 a month to use the grid like a battery.
2017-07-06 12:00:01
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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What is the target audience of Lucid Air and is it in any way a competitor to Tesla Model S or to any other car?
* Big battery and very comfortable back seats imply that it should be suitable for longer trips but a small trunk and a very likely absence of supercharger network kinda counter that. * If it s not meant for longer trips but to be a high performance car then why would the back seats be so comfortable? The driver is in front enjoying the high performance driving. * Full self-driving is advertised but it seems highly unlikely that it will be production ready in 2018 as soon as the first cars presumably start shipping. Having all Lucid Air s attributes in mind it seems like an overpowered city car for people who will sit in the back have their own driver and then maybe a self-driving car a couple of years after buying it. That seems like a very specific and narrow target audience. Tesla Model S seems like a much better package even now. Soon after Lucid Air starts producing what we see today Tesla might launch a new generation Model S (because it will be 7-8 years old series) with all the interior build quality service etc. improvements along the way. Obligatory: I do welcome as many new electric car companies as possible but they all seem to have a surprisingly unclear business model (even though they somewhat try to copy Tesla in that regard).
2017-03-20 10:00:34
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I think it s important to emphasize that competition is *good* for Tesla and that we should not be worrried about any of these new BEV s coming to market. And I dont mean that from an environmentalist point of view I mean it will actually be good for business and could actually raise Tesla s stock value (consider what Netflix stock looked like before vs. After blockbuster launched its streaming website. Ditto for Apple before vs after Nokia responded to iphone). For starters more BEV s means more infrastructure to support BEV ownership and more demand for electricity to increase demand for battery storage (Tesla is obviously very well positioned to take advantage of this market too). But it s also essential to have competition in order to get the early majority of customers who tend to be the most profitable customers but harder to sell a BEV to because they are more pragmatic and skeptical about new tech to buy off on owning a Tesla. The more companies push compelling BEV s with rival stats the more it alleviates the very large and skeptic and pragmatic majority s concerns about the technology s maturity. BEV s could just be another fad like EV-1 so having competition helps to show customers that this definitely isnt just a fad. For Tesla fans investors we need more competitors to enter the BEV market first before Tesla can reliably establish itself as the undisputable leader of this market. Otherwise there s always this justifiable doubt hanging over Tesla in the mind of the pragmatist majority of both customers and investors. Specifically the belief that the market isnt going to be big or that there might be a more compelling BEV thats going to be offered by a traditional manufacturer so maybe I should wait another year before i buy one belief. Or the idea that Tesla is only the best because the REAL car companies havent entered the market yet belief. Or this argument you always see popping up from people who believe that TSLA shares are overvalued because traditional manufacturers are somehow sleeping giants that could easily flip a switch and hammer Tesla on BEV production if it wanted to. The only way to get beyond this exhausting tech adoption phase is with meaningful competition. The more major manufacturers strategically stall themselves (dont be fooled into believing it isnt deliberate) the longer they can prolongue these doubts about Tesla or BEV tech in general. And the more money they can recover from their stranded ICE assets before being forced to compete in a very expensive head-to-head BEV market where they have little relevant competitive advantage (sorry GM Ford lovers but being able to produce a lot is not an advantage. And GM Ford knows this because they watched Kodak Xerox fall the same way). So the sooner Lucid Faraday Future VW and others build their Gigafactories and enter the picture the better. The more Renault Nissan BYG and GM pump out BEV s the better. It gives people perspective and confidence in Tesla and that warm and fuzzy feeling that buying new tech like a BEV is a safe bet with plenty of support to come in the future. But more importantly in my mind it FORCES the big players to show their crappy poker hands to the early and late majority of customers who spend the most. There is plenty of market demand for all BEV players right now and plenty of room for Tesla stock and the stock of its competitors to grow. I expect this will become more obvious as more competitors enter the scene. Edit: This same logic applies to autonomous driving competitors too btw. Intel paying $15B for mobileye is a positive indicator for Tesla vision. And this new startup pushing camera-only driving is positive reinforcement for Tesla s non-lidar strategy.
2017-03-20 11:47:09
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I m hoping Tesla can make a replica of the Model 3 aero covers for use on the Model S
Personally I think they [look great on a blue Model 3](https: i.redd.it 4ar2g4fle3rz.jpg) and would look equally great on a blue Model S. Probably increase mileage too.
2017-10-11 00:30:48
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It s amusing how different we all are as I think the aero covers are the ugliest things I ve ever seen. I definitely wouldn t put them on my MX. Keep your MS looking pure! :)
2017-10-11 00:51:33
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Hot take on several hours with the Model 3....
Hot takes from a few hours with the 3: Many people don t know this but I was scared I was going to drive the 3 for a little while curse a lot and resign myself to selling it and buying a P100D even though I could have bought a Model S in 2012 instead of waiting this long. ( Course it wouldn t have been a P100D but you get the idea). I thought there was a non-zero chance I would like the S so much better than the 3 with its quirks that I would have a lot of regret about waiting. And I ve been waiting for the 3 since it was codenamed Bluestar back in 2006 two years before the Roadster even hit the roads. But this car... it turns out... was absolutely worth the wait. Totally. I mean this thing is awesome and this is coming from someone who was really trepidatious about it going into today. Most of the complaints you ve read in the press or on the boards don t really hold water. I m not saying they re made up but you will get used to most everything so quickly it s a lot of non-issues. And people who know me know I complain. A lot. About everything. For example the center console magnet is as persnickety as prosumer grade magnetic speaker grills. If you re used to them you ll know exactly what I mean. In fact my biggest complaint: Today I told someone I was scared the phone key wasn t going to work but it s been working perfectly and on that particular occasion when walking up to the car... as if on cue... it didn t. Now the full disclosure on this is that I have a Google Pixel XL first gen and they were notorious for bluetooth connectivity issues which is why I was scared this could be an issue. And sure enough when it failed the phone had disconnected itself from the 3. Not the car s fault but the phone s fault. But now I think I have a faster fix for it than getting out the key card to open the car. All in all... this thing is definitely worthy of being called a Tesla. And despite the fact that I thought there were things about this car that make it sort of a Weird-mobile (not the exterior styling mind you but from a why-do-I-need-to-press-a-button-on-the-center-console-to-open-up-the-glove-box kind of way)-- I gotta say spend a few hours with it and it all really starts to make more sense than any of the reviews out there would lead you to believe in print or on Youtube. TL DR: Car exceeded my tempered expectations. I actually love this thing. I was scared I wouldn t. I was wrong. I d rate TSLA a strong by after an a day with the 3. Oh PS: W R T #alcantaragate. I was wrong. The new material is not quite the hard-woven stuff I thought it was. It has a softer feel almost like it might be woven with bamboo or something. Much better than I thought it was going to be. I still have a personal preference for alcantara but I no longer will hate on Tesla for calling it a premium material. I was wrong wrong wrong wrong about all that.
2018-03-01 00:53:10
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phonekey console magnet ap controls turn signal. these were my biggest complaints. turns out they are all related. all related in terms of urgency. i hated the turn signal because i was used to manhandeling in the s. i hated the ap controls because the double tap was a bit excessive. i hated the phonekey key because it was not responsive enought. one day i remembered my first interaction with the center console. first time i used it i was like.. wtf why wont this piece of shit close... turned out i was smashing it too hard. then i noticed the turn signal was not too big of a deal if you just tap lightly for a lane change. same with ap too gentle taps and oh its on. and lastly calmly walk up to the car and... everytime it unlock effectively. model 3 = enlightenment.
2018-03-01 01:33:27
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Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences
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Upgrade to multi-coat paint or invest in PPF?
Getting closer to market and one of the items I can t decide on is if it s better to invest in upgrading the paint to multi-coat from the factory or to have PPF applied to the base black. I don t really have a preference on color for the Model 3. I would even consider paying more than $1 500 for full body PPF if it means I don t have to spend money on a fresh coat of wax two times per year (or more?). I live in the Central Valley in California if that changes anything. Thanks for your help!
2019-05-04 05:14:31
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You re going to pay a lot more than $1 500 for full body PPF. But the multicoat paint is still shit so it s a good investment if you can afford it.
2019-05-04 10:02:56
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Ceramic Coating Application Process
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Elon on Earnings call: New Single pedal driving that will improve range ... makes it easier to drive coming in a few weeks
Elon and the CTO mentioned this on the earnings call. Really excited to hear this I ve always wanted a true single pedal driving mode. Even better that it ll boost range by 5%. They also said it improves comfort as well although I m not sure how (smoother stopping and going I guess?). Anyway gotta meet that character count! So how s everyone s day going? Anyone else tune into the call?
2019-10-24 00:57:00
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I m interested to know what this is all about. Does this mean heavier regen braking? I would kind of like the vehicle to just come to a complete stop and hold on its own tbh. The less I have to press the brake pedal the more I m happy.
2019-10-24 01:02:26
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Loving the hey stupid app notifications
Parked in a public garage and headed to the tap room a block away. Got my barrel aged stout and was about to check it in on Untappd when the Tesla app tells me my front driver door is still open. 😳 I leave my drink with my girlfriend and beeline it to the garage. Sure enough the door was ajar the handles were presented the MCU was alive and the music was going. THANK YOU TESLA for the app notifications!!
2020-12-20 01:06:52
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What s your Untappd user name? (hic...) . I love that app!
2020-12-20 03:09:11
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Can I use a Tesla Wall Charger to charge an BMW i3?
https: www.tesla.com charge-at-home Whilst I wait for the 3 I m thinking of buying a BMW i3. Does anyone know if I can use the Tesla Wall Charger to charge the i3? Or can someone suggest a better solution? (I m based in the UK if that makes any difference?)
2017-03-27 20:52:09
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Yes you can use the HPWC. They both use Type 2 plugs in the UK and it even states on tesla s website Other cars with a Type 2 inlet can also charge on this unit. [Tesla Home Charging UK](https: www.tesla.com en_GB support home-charging-installation)
2017-03-27 21:17:44
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Does anyone have a list of the states and their sales status?
I m curious as to what states in the US currently are legal to purchase a Tesla and which aren t. Also in states where it is illegal is the ban on purchase ownership or both?
2014-07-12 19:07:44
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Part of your question is easily googleable and it comes up here all the time. The car isn t illegal in states where direct sales are disallowed. I have a Tesla in Texas and there s plenty here. There s somewhere over 2 000 Teslas in Texas. You can search r teslamotors for maps like this showing where they can and can t sell cars: http: www.forbes.com sites markrogowsky 2014 03 15 after-the-new-jersey-ban-heres-where-tesla-can-and-cannot-sell-its-cars http: www.autonews.com article 20140301 RETAIL 140229855 teslas-state-by-state-battle-with-dealers#
2014-07-12 20:13:52
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Tesla Feature for Deaf and Hard of Hearing
Feature: option to convert important sounds (sirens honks etc) into a visual cue of some helpful sort What ya ll think?
2020-12-04 05:52:27
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That s a really cool idea. Have the screen flash different colors for different notifications ... blinking red for ambulance fire truck blinking blue for police ... I like it.
2020-12-04 06:03:44
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How do preorders work?
Hi all. I m planning to get the Model 3 when it becomes available. How does preordering work? In the past was there a need to pay an upfront deposit? Roughly how much? I will be financing the car but don t have the means to do that until 2016 probably. Just want to start saving up as early as possible!
2015-11-05 06:21:52
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There is a deposit required - it s refundable and the amount is not announced yet but it s expected to be less than the current deposit for a Model S which is $2500 US. Don t worry about not being able to finance it until 2016 because the car will not likely be available to consumers until early 2018. Keep saving and avoid as much need to borrow as you can!
2015-11-05 06:30:24
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Tesla Job Application
Applied to a job at Tesla a few months back. Job is taken off of website but the job status page says that my application was Last updated on June 30th. Any idea what this could mean behind the scenes?
2016-07-08 18:47:40
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I can t speak to the regular hiring process since Elon Tesla poached me directly in a really targeted way but I do know our acceptance rate is something like ~3-5% of applications so it s extremely hard to progress by sheer virtue of the number of apps we receive
2016-07-09 00:05:35
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Career Decision - Tesla vs. Ford
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Do uberturbine wheels serve any purpose other than aesthetics?
Wonder if uberturbine wheels increase range or speed in any way. Thank you!
2021-07-29 16:07:41
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They reduce range don t help with speed and look cooler.
2021-07-30 01:14:28
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Model Y Wheel Options
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Can we PLEASE fix the Tesla Model 3 Music Interface!
This is a partial rant and feature request and I would like to start off stating that I absolutely love my new Model 3 in spite of this issue. I also absolutely LOVE the sound system on this car and I think it is quite amazing (granted I came from a 2011 Toyota Prius so take that with a grain of salt). **But** something needs to be done about this music interface. Their are 5 options for playing media through this car and I m sure that most people will suggest to just use your phone or a media device via Bluetooth. Personally I think that s a waste given that I have to navigate through my phone media device to play what I want instead of the hulking screen in front of me. Also I am actively trying to not use my phone while driving especially with the new texting rules here in Texas. However the top problems I have with the music interface are as follows: 1. Bad Memory - This car as advanced as it is can t seem to remember shit for what I was last playing doing. Whether that is FM Radio Streaming or God forbid USB (I ll get to that later) all I want is for it to **consistently** remember the last thing I was playing and pick up where I left off when I get back in the car. I say consistently because if I exit and re-enter the car quickly it usually seems to do pretty good at this task. But if I leave my car for say 5 minutes and return there is no guarantee that it will pick up where I left off in the song (if streaming or USB) the same radio station if I have a preset or even at all (more fun with USB). Even pausing a song on streaming or USB ends up with the same results when I exit and re-enter with several times it even defaulting to asking me to select a bluetooth device instead of what I was last listening to. 2. USB Drive Music Experience is Terrible - Now I m not talking quality of music that plays as that is fantastic...when it plays. However I ve had so many issues in some songs not playing for any reason(formats are either .mp3 or .flac) and then on reinsertion it plays just fine. The car also constantly seems to forget (back again to memory) that there is a flash drive every time I re-enter the car which while likely related to the first issue means that the car has to scan analyze the drive every time after an extended leave. If I see that process happening I already know **I m not** getting back to where I last was easily. Also since there is no search function you have to navigate to the song you want. If you have a large flash with a bunch of songs (128GB for me) the scanning and selecting process could take awhile. All for you to repeat this process the next time you leave your vehicle for more than a few minutes. Also I ve found that while I can save favorite songs I can t really favorite artists albums or folders to make getting back to my most frequent selection of songs easily. Not to mention that the software is terrible at reading music metadata so many songs are out of order. As much as I wanted to listen to my favorite songs not on the Streaming service I had to give up on the USB Drive option until many of these simple issues are fixed. 3. Slacker Limitations - I d first like to mention that I m actually pretty impressed with the library of songs that Slacker has and I m equally impressed it s Radio generation capabilities. However the limitations of using Slacker for streaming is what drove me to using a USB drive and eventually my phone. You can t rewind songs play a whole album front to back and like issue #1 hope that if you pause a song and leave that you ll be able to unpause it when you return (instead I m greeted with a completely different track within the vein of the created station). Also since there isn t a great caching system if you get somewhere without LTE service you can pretty much kiss Slacker capabilities goodbye. Add to this that sometimes it doesn t even have what you are looking for (goodbye my favorite anime tracks) and you are ultimately a sad panda. 4. Interface limitations - I was actually very surprised to see that there isn t a major menu in the cars general settings for the Music App. I m not talking about the menu with the equalizer balance and immersive sound options. I m talking about a menu to control aspects of the music interface itself. Settings such as choosing a default media option whether or not to always attempt to show music app full screen and to choose to show time left to end of song or elapsed time (by the way sometimes the app freaks out and shows completely wrong values here). I m sure there are more options I m forgetting but that s a simple obvious start. Also there are some weird navigational oddities that still need to be worked out like the selection area and the media source section not being completely synced up (I can be playing a slacker radio station switch to FM radio and I will find that the selection menu gets stuck with the only way to get out by switching sources...I will try to find a better case to give for replication). 5. Tune In FM Radio - Tune In works if you have data but the bigger issue is that at least for me most of the best stations are on iHeartRadio so Tune In is pretty worthless in my case. I m sure others have things they like there though so I think it s still a nice value add.. As far as FM Radio I did have an issue once where while a station was selected it played nothing. It took a soft reboot of the screen in order to fix it.n However in general I have the same memory problems with the radio as well. I ll have it set to a classic rock station and then re-enter my vehicle to find that it has switched back to my favorited EDM slacker station. 6. Bluetooth Media Phone - This is what I m currently using since all the other options have proven in some way to be inadequate and currently the biggest gripe I have with how the car handles Bluetooth are the facts are that you can t search the phone for a track from the car (for obvious reasons) and that there is no time tracker for a given song that is playing. Also there aren t advanced play options like repeat repeat all and shuffle for the phone. Again I can understand why these options aren t here but this is why I wanted to use USB or Streaming which don t work well. However at least I don t have to deal with the memory issue for songs (it still doesn t pair as fast as I d like but that could be my phone s issue) The biggest issue is that I have to look at my phone while driving in order to choose media. Proposed Fixes: * Fix the statefull memory issue for the love of all that s holy or someone tell me how I can get this car to remember where i last was in anything in the music application. * Fix the USB media player being finicky on what songs it would like to play or at least tell us why it won t play a certain song so we can resolve it ourselves. * Not mentioned as a major issue but occasionally the sound system will start crackling but a quick pause and play of a song will fix it. Very weird issue. * Fix issue with song progress indicators not showing correct values or not showing at all. Proposed Feature Requests: * Add another streaming service in the US (please give us Spotify!) and hopefully one that has caching available. Also implement a better caching process if possible. * Add search to the USB drive and the ability for us to manually implement full drive scans. * Implement Settings menu for Music Interface * Add ability to favorite Albums Artists Folders or Genres on USB drive Thankfully all of these issues are completely software related and can theoretically be fixed in an OTA update. I m just hoping this community (I love you guys!) might have some answers for me whether as fixes workarounds or solidarity with my pain (which hopefully gets Teslas attention). TL DR - Car can t remember the last thing I played or was doing in the music app consistently. USB drive player absolutely sucks due to it s implementation in conjunction with the cars terrible memory. More refinement and options needed to the interface as well as other streaming music options. OTA fix prayers commencing.
2018-07-12 19:08:15
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Get in line buddy! Us Model S X owners going back for many years would like our media player fixed too.
2018-07-12 19:31:17
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Spotify Integration Analysis
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How to buy a Tesla
Ok after a test drive yesterday i m sold. I felt like shit sitting in my ancient gasoline burner (2014 335i) And driving off the Tesla store yard. I am going to get one but few questions about actually getting one and things to consider while purchasing: 1. There is some referral thing to get credit towards charger installation right? How do I get this and are there other promotions discounts I should be aware of? 2. When should I buy? I need the car between 10 2016 and 4 2017. I can t be a day late from end of April. Something new in the horizon to wait for? Price changes because model 3? Anything else to consider timewise? 3. Since they are all sold through tesla shops there is no bargaining? 4. Should I by from the store or from the web? 5. Anything else I should know before pulling the trigger? I am thinking model S RWD 70 with autopilot air suspension cold weather kit and maybe nextgen seats. Driving the thing around in northern europe.
2016-03-27 13:18:33
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1. Existing model S owners all have referral codes that you can use to get a mild discount on your purchase. Currently it s £800 in the UK. It s against sub rules to post codes AFAIK. 2. The model s design studio will give a you fairly reasonable delivery date prediction. You can defer by up to two months. There may be a refresh of the S on the way because a) it s about due and b) tesla have warned of a price change next month and c) they ve added some recent sweeteners to new model s orders including new standard wheels and a new standard centre console. I take that to be a gesture towards end of line orderers so as not to p#ss them off when the refresh lands. I think we ll know soon after the model 3 reveal. 3. (Edit: I can t count) no bargaining. Fixed pricing structure. 4. Makes no difference unless you want to get high fived by a sales person. 5. You ll have zero regrets. Best car I ve ever owned by a country mile.
2016-03-27 13:44:37
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Anyone else taking delivery very soon?
Need your help here guys. I put my deposit down on my S way back in July before the referral program ended (not knowing the referral would be extended). However I panned to not take delivery until this month (Bday present for myself and I didn t want the care that soon). My delivery expert said that my car is just now entering production and I am scheduled to pick it up on October 31 (Halloween). What do you think my chances are that my S will have the latest hardware? UPDATE: Thanks to all of those who chimed in here. And yes my car is shipping with new hardware (all cars starting October 10th). I am promised that the car will do everything that I was told during my purchase in July. I have the option to purchase Enhanced AP for another $2500 now. Or FULL AP for $5500. However I think I am going to wait. In my daily commute I don t see me using even the primitive AP very much. And I think it s gonna be awhile before FULL AP gets lit up due to regulation etc. So I see myself buying FULL AP in a year or two. Also my promised delivery date of October 31st has been pushed back. My delivery expert says another week or two delay because they halted the production line in order to prep for this change.
2016-10-20 04:34:50
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In [THIS](https: youtu.be IZ90J7i_l20?t=1080) video at 18:08 Elon said they are shipping the new hardware as of this week. So it looks like yes your car will have the new hardware.
2016-10-20 04:43:02
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[Live Updates and Discussion Thread] Tesla Motors Q1 2015 Earnings [4PM ET- 8PM UTC]
It s earnings week for Tesla! They will post their financial results for the first quarter 2015 after **market close [4PM ET] today 05 06 15** - **8PM UTC** It would be preferable if you could post your articles and questions related to the financial results in this thread. The sub gets crowded with those and articles about the earnings around this time. The SEC filings and the shareholder letter will be available here: http: ir.teslamotors.com Tesla management will hold a live question &amp answer **webcast at 2:30PM PT (5:30PM ET - 9:30PM UTC )** to discuss the Company s financial and business results and outlook. Generally Musk is on the call with Deepak Ahuja Tesla s CFO and JB Straubel Tesla s CTO. You will be able to access the webcast here: http: ir.teslamotors.com events.cfm Tesla already confirmed they delivered 10 030 cars in Q1 2015. The focus should be on Q2 guidances and the level of confidence on 55 000 deliveries guidance in 2015. **Wall Street expects EPS loss of $0.52 on revenue of $1.04 billion** while [Estimize](https: www.estimize.com tsla) the crowd analysts estimation website expects a loss of $0.22 per share on $1.1 billion of revenue. ______________ **Updates:** **T + 2 hour - 18:47 PM ET** : Call is over. **T + 2 hour - 18:28 PM ET** : we are doing advance work on the Model 3 very early prototypes show of Model 3 in march of next year **T + 2 hour - 18:20 PM ET** : significant deliveries of the Model X should start 2 to 3 months after the first deliveries. **T + 2 hour - 18:02 PM ET** : Straubel: we looked at every possible chemical configuration **T + 2 hour - 18:00 PM ET** : no one has a pack quite like ours **T + 1 hour - 17:40 PM ET** : Musk: 38 000 reservations powerwall - 25 000 reservations powerpack **T + 1 hour - 17:35 PM ET** : Elon: we don t see demand as a problem **T + 1 hour - 17:35 PM ET** : Elon says that 55 000 depends on how well the Model X ramp up goes. **T + 1 hour - 17:30 PM ET** : I m back. Call starting. **T + 55 minutes - 16:55PM ET** : I ll be back before the call in about half an hour. **T + 40 minutes - 16:40PM ET** : In Q2 we expect to produce about 12 500 vehicles We plan to deliver 10 000 to 11 000 vehicles in Q2 **T + 32 minutes - 16:32PM ET** : We remain confident in our ability to deliver approximately 55 000 Model S and Model X vehicles combined in 2015 **T + 29 minutes - 16:29PM ET** :Our Q1 non-GAAP net loss was $45 million or a loss of $0.36 per basic share based on 125.9 million basic shares while our Q1 GAAP net loss was $154 million or a loss of $1.22 per basic share. **T + 28 minutes - 16:28PM ET** : it s out: Total non-GAAP revenue was $1.10 billion for the quarter up 55% from a year ago while GAAP revenue was $940 million. We achieved a Q1 total company gross margin of 28.2% on a non-GAAP basis and 27.7% on a GAAP basis. **T + 25 minutes - 16:25PM ET**: still nothing... **T - 0 minute - 16:00PM ET**: Market close. Results should be available here any minute: http: ir.teslamotors.com events.cfm **T - 33 minutes - 15:27PM ET**: TSLA is now down 2%. Still nothing to report ahead of earnings. **T - 3 hours - 12:41PM ET**: TSLA has been trading sideways today coming up to the results. Nothing new to report. **T - 7 hours - 8:20AM ET**: r teslamotors s live update and discussion thread goes live! ________________
2015-05-06 12:20:16
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Simple posts like these prove that you deserved to be the next Mod. I love Tesla but you take the dedication to the next level. :) P.s. You should put a countdown. You know no one cares about UTC :-P
2015-05-06 12:30:56
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1 big Problem and 6 small ones with my made in china SR+ M3
When I pushed the button and bought a Model 3 in October I didn t know I bought a made in china model 3... Then Tesla sent the documents and it became clear why I payed almost 7 000 usd less than my friend. Btw I live in Europe. Still I trusted Tesla s advisors that told me the car is even better than the Fremont one and cheaper and you can charge to 100% semper etc etc. The car has problems and a really big one: The lfp battery is not convincing me. My charging speed and supercharger is... bad (40-50Kw with 10% battery left preheated 5°C no other cars charging V2). It takes forever to charge... The other problems are less relevant and some only concerning my country \- Tesla account for spotify not working: Solutions I found: make yourself a premium account or try hard reset. I went for the premium account as I really like spotify \- Headlights: where I live your daytime running light need to be turned on all the time. On auto they automatically turn off when I drive in sunny situationts \- TPMS: it took time but now I know which one I have (the old ones). Still if you need be sure to check which one you have before buying some (i.e. check the manual) \- Updates: sometimes they are just great.... sometimes not. I started losing 10% overnight after the last update (**2020.48.26) ** the one that farts even more. Then I found out it was due to activated scheduled departure. Solution: just inform yourself before updating and always charge your car before an update. \- the MIC is heavier. I don t know if I m the only one but driving a lot on mountains I feel like driving a heavy car. So glad brakes are working well... \- Autopilot speed limit recognition: where I live it works bad recognizing only about 80% of limit signs. I hope this will improve with updates as speed tickets are expensive where I live... &amp #x200B So I helped my wife to make a video about our [Problems](https: youtu.be b8nBF8wQmL4). What do you think? I really appreciate the car I smile everytime I have to drive somewhere... and cry when I have to supercharge. Guess the only thing I can do for the charging speed time at superchargers is wait in the best scenario just for an update...
2021-01-02 05:49:45
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I m not sure these are MIC specific issues other than possibly the Supercharging issue. This is something they will likely resolve with updates in the future once they get a feel for how this new-to-Tesla change works. Similar things happened with the US made version where initially it couldn t charge beyond 150kW and eventually they pushed an update to go up to 250kW. The rest seem like software settings issues and would likely have been the same if you had a Fremont vehicle. Unless you re comparing it to another Tesla that you ve had the weight thing is just an EV thing. Due to the batteries they *are* heavy cars.
2021-01-02 08:06:25
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Model 3 in the extreme cold?
I m wondering how the Model 3 (Or other tesla vehicles I suppose) stack up in extreme cold weather? Unfortunately it s not unheard of in my city (Winnipeg) for it to reach -40c with wind chill. Now in a perfect world my car would always been in a garage - However work calls and thus vehicles are out in the elements for upwards of 16 hours. Now most people here use block heaters and plug them in when dealing with these extreme colds - However my work (cutting costs) have these outlets on a timer. 30 minutes off. 15 minutes on. I presume I could plug into a standard 110-AC outlet - but with only 30 min off 15 min on intervals - I feel it wouldn t do much. How would these extreme cold days effect driving? How long would one have to let the car idle before driving (or warm up enough to hold the steering wheel lol) Lastly since there is no gauges - Only a touchscreen how will these colds temps effect it? I know my touch-screen media player in my truck hates the cold and takes some time before it s not blurry poor touch responsive. I know i ve left my phone in the car before while at work and it took nearly 30 minutes of being indoors before it would even turn on (Even while plugged in).
2017-08-04 07:43:48
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The range would definitely suffer in the winter time and at extreme cold temperatures the Tesla will make part of the battery unavailable in order to protect itself. The car will use its own power to make sure that the battery won t get too cold and brick itself. Charging the car requires the battery to be heated up but I m not sure a standard 110v outlet will provide enough power if anything it ll trigger the car into trying to charge which might keep the battery warm? You don t need to let the car warm up before you drive it. The moment you hop in the car is ready to drive assuming you can hold the cold steering wheel. But that can also be solved by pre-heating the car via the app. I don t know how the screen reacts in extreme cold but I m sure it won t completely die on you especially if you preheat the car
2017-08-04 08:04:53
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Supercharger demand
Do you know what will end up happening when a lot more people start using Superchargers and it results in people having to lineup and then wait another 20-30 minutes to charge their car? Wouldn t the battery swap method turn out to be superior since its equivalent to the time taken to fill a gas tank?
2014-08-05 17:08:16
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they will simply upgrade the stations to support more ports.
2014-08-05 17:12:32
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Honest: How s The Tesla Experience? (The Company not the Car)
One thing I keep seeing mention of (and downvoted to hell) is a common sentiment: Goddamn I love my car but hate everything else about this company. &amp #x200B Now I understand the internet is where people go to complain but how has your experience with Tesla s sales finance service departments been? Good or bad. Thanks!
2019-06-19 17:17:36
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My experiences with Tesla have been better than any other car company I ve ever had. There are a few problems that you d expect from a small but scaling company but they always try to satisfy the customer. But when you compare them to any other car company they blow them away. One example. My car wouldn t start after my first full charge. The person on the phone troubleshooted with me in the car could see all the errors on my screen and eventually called a tow truck to arrive where I was in 30 minutes. When I arrived at the shop the guy had all the logs and already knew what he was looking for. I was supposed to be going on a road trip. He said he d try for 30 minutes then give me something else to drive. They gave me a Tesla Performance model to take while they fixed my car for the weekend. When I got my car back instead of a 85D it was now a 90D with a brand-new main battery because the cooling unit that kicks in on full charges had a problem. I have a few other examples but I m super impressed that somehow a negative situation became a win win situation.
2019-06-19 17:23:59
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I was told you can still drive your MS with 1 motor if the second motor fails. True or False??...
I don t mean through a car crash accident but just plain old failure? Someone on here told me and I have been curious ever since. Can anyone confirm if this is true? If true... for long term ownership of the MS... dual motors could have an extra advantage....
2016-06-13 02:42:33
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Yes you can keep on driving it has been said by Elon. [This video he says it at 25secs into the video](http: www.bloomberg.com news videos 2014-10-10 driving-tesla-with-musk-zero-to-60-and-testing-autopilot).
2016-06-13 02:54:54
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Can t believe my 97 year old in a Tesla went viral !!!
My 97 year old in a Tesla video went viral completely by accident. It landed me on the local news station!! I then had to go and explain what a viral video was to him... This happened! https: youtu.be Rs3eIZEGa2I
2017-08-29 02:21:04
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Awesome! It was a great video.
2017-08-29 02:26:13
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OTA updates Tesla in gray market
Hello! I live in South America and we are thinking on buying a Tesla and bring it here! I have seen other Teslas here and I know some of the limitations (No mobile data no navigation etc) but I was just wondering Teslas in a gray market (A Tesla in a “non-Tesla” country) receive OTA updates? In the pdf guide only says “Not guaranteed” Thanks everyone!!
2020-04-08 23:29:46
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You might be able to setup a US vpn on your router and try to get updates that way.
2020-04-09 00:24:25
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Tesla Account web sign-in issue
Tried logging into my Tesla Account but keep getting redirected to the uhoh screen. Tried multiple networks and browsers with same result. Looks like my requests to tesla.com teslaaccount are getting the 302 to uhoh. Noticed it maybe a half hour ago. Just me? Thanks!
2020-09-23 15:56:27
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Don t be me and delete the app thinking there s something wrong with it. And get stranded outside my car. Don t be me.
2020-09-23 17:24:17
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Tesla Model S for long-range commuting in winter
Hey folks I almost bought a Model S a few years ago but the cost was not justifiable to me at the time. However after realizing that my current car (an Audi S5) is a) sucking gas and b) about to become a maintenance-filled money pit I feel like with my driving habits an electric car might actually fulfill my needs better. My commute one way is about 85 km (53 miles). Let s say 55 miles to be safe. It s 95% highspeed highway driving (about 120km h or 75 mph). I know this type of commuting is easily doable in the summer on a 100D however I live in Toronto where winters can be very harsh. Luckily I only do this commute 3 times a week and otherwise it s just typical driving around my town doing errands and stuff. I am able to install a high-voltage charger at home of course but will not have that option at work (where I will park the car outside). I do NOT want to charge on the way to work or home even if a supercharger is available. I may do no that on Fridays Saturdays when I can make an event trip of it or visit a friend in a town on the way but otherwise it should not be a regular occurrence. I just wanna go home. Does anyone in a cold climate on the east coast do this type of high-mileage commuting? Do you hav range issues in the winter? How does a Model S hold up to such high-mileage commuting (driving like 45000 km a year with my other errands life) over the years? I know several Model S s have gone well beyond 200k miles and needed little maintenance. Is this typically the norm? Cheers guys.
2020-09-07 14:13:47
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110 a day commute? Yes of course that will be fine. You can charge each night at home. I know people who do 250+ mile commutes each day. Even in the winter you won t have issue.
2020-09-07 14:33:04
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[Mildly interesting] Comparing the old and new Model 3 images on Tesla s Model S vs Model 3 Compare page
[Old \(apparently posted May 24 2017\)](https: www.tesla.com tesla_theme assets img compare model_3--side_profile.png?20170524) [New \(apparently posted August 1 2017\)](https: www.tesla.com tesla_theme assets img model3 model_3--side_profile.png?20170801) Thought this might be an interesting comparison to spot any changes over time. Graphics masters please feel free to do your magic to spot any changes better like with overlays etc. Also the wheels seem to be of different size so might need to normalize the images.
2018-01-01 21:55:07
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The front bumper is definitely different. Now it s shorter and less angled.
2018-01-02 02:02:31
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Just visited a tesla showroom today. My only (previous) downside of the car has now been solved!
I had a very rare day off today to unwind and so I decided to take a visit down to the local Tesla showroom. The one thing I had in mind before sitting inside the vehicle was how poor the interior looked in pictures. However when i actually sat in the car i was very impressed by the interior and it felt very premium. I have sat in cars like the Mercedes C and E class as well as audis and bmw s and this felt much superior. That being said i have never been inside an S class or 7 series so i cant really compare ont hat level. So my one pet peeve with the car has now been resolved! Very excited to save my money now so i can buy one.
2017-01-09 01:16:11
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After the first drop in the tax credit what changes will Tesla make?
Starting in January the tax credit cuts in half for US buyers. Tesla has timed things well and is going to start sending 3000 cars a week to the EU. This is going to start out with a lot of high priced cars as happened in the USA. I think Tesla will be even more profitable in Q1 because of this. But if production hits 7000 cars a week Tesla may not be able to sell everything it can make in the USA due to the drop in the rebate. Do we expect any price changes? I personally think Tesla might drop $1000 off or more the MR to spur demand.
2018-12-16 23:21:39
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They will not drop the price. People will buy the cars anyway.
2018-12-16 23:35:02
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How often do you think we ll spot Model 3 s in the future?
Many of you all like myself are constantly scanning the road for Teslas. With the massive adaption of the Model 3 we will see half a million additional Tesla s on the road over the next few years. While there s obviously lots of variation across the world in regards to Tesla adoption (California vs. other states for example) I was curious to see how you all believe the sales numbers will compare to other car manufacturers in the future and thus how often we ll be seeing Teslas on our roads. For example there have been over 200 000 Nissan Leafs sold since they went on sale in 2010. It s safe to say that in a few years we ll be twice as likely to see a Tesla as a Nissan Leaf.
2017-03-25 12:02:41
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Hopefully every morning when i walk into garage in 7 or 8 months.
2017-03-25 13:23:55
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Any Tesla Powerwall owners out there?
I can t find much online in terms of review. If you have one what do you think of it? Only con I have heard so far is that it is louder than anticipated.
2016-06-19 06:43:08
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That you can t find much online in terms of reviews (only press releases) should give you the answers you re looking for about them. The PowerWall was announced over a year ago in two forms. Since then production has been a rounding error away from zero (it seems that every new installation triggers a news article) the specs have changed around and one of the two models announced has been entirely dropped likely before shipping a single unit. If your goal is to actually store energy any time soon you shouldn t even consider one at this point in time. They work with only one or two models of inverter (they have to speak Canbus or Modbus to the PowerWall unlike literally every other battery pack out there that speaks volts and amps ) they require expensive installation and they re essentially a public alpha for lithium storage. If your goal is to write a large check to get a Tesla PowerWall in your garage at some point in the future for the sake of having a PowerWall in your garage they re of value. Otherwise look into something more tested for energy storage. A bank of Trojan lead acid RE (renewable energy series) batteries (or any other modern brand) even oversized significantly to keep the depth of discharge limited is going to cost less than the PowerWall have a very useful cycle life (a Trojan T105RE is rated for 2500 cycles at 33% DoD) is cheaper works with just about any inverter on the market (pick one for your pack voltage) and most importantly can be obtained *right now* - you can order a set and have them in a week. Maintenance is fairly low especially if you spring for either a watering system or recombiner caps. The PowerWall is certainly a useful product to Tesla but mostly in the form of free advertising presumably a Look even if we don t move cars we can still go through enough batteries so please keep producing cells! lever with their battery supplier and apparently a driver of traffic to their PowerPacks which presumably are moving in some quantity (just not to homes). It s simply not an interesting useful or feasible system for home power storage right now.
2016-06-19 17:04:54
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Do you still use Autopilot?
With other cars I ve had that use something similar to Autopilot I quickly went back to my old habits of simply driving the car myself. For those of you who have had Autopilot for a while now do you still use it on a regular basis? My CRV 2015 can stay in the lane by itself and follow a car. I ve used it maybe twice in a year. I know it s barely comparable to the autopilot but to a certain extent it does drive itself.
2016-09-25 13:51:28
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This guy made a real-time video of him driving to work on Autopilot. It may help. https: www.youtube.com watch?v=tq_OTcncPH0 Worth noting that he isn t using latest version of Autopilot which was released just this week.
2016-09-25 14:25:31
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Tesla California Q2 sale - Model 3 now captures 21% share of Near Luxury in 2018
[https: www.cncda.org wp-content uploads California-Covering-2Q-2018.pdf](https: www.cncda.org wp-content uploads California-Covering-2Q-2018.pdf) ​ Model 3 now captures 21% share of Near Luxury in 2018 ​ |Tesla Model 3||||| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Q1 18|Share|Q2 18|Share|| |3 723|14.3%|12 674|21%|\+8 951| |Tesla Model S||||| |Q1 18|Share|Q2 18|Share|| |2 145|13.6%|4 993|14.9%|\+2 848| |Tesla Model X||||| |Q1 18|Share|Q2 18|Share|| |1 662|8.2%|3 962|9%|\+2 300| ​ ​ |Tesla Year to Year|||| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Q2 2017|Q2 2018|% Change|| |4 284|14 099|229.1%|\+9 815| ​ ​ |Tesla YTD +139.4%||||| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |2017 YTD|Share|2018 YTD|Share|| |9 033|0.9%|21 629|2.2%|\+12 596| ​
2018-08-22 17:38:20
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That s a nice growth but the most spectacular remains Q3. Consider that the last 2 months of this quarter they produce more Model 3s than Q1 and Q2 combined they still have 5 weeks remaining. This quarter will be shattering. Something like 70% of EV Hybrods and 40-50% of Californian Near Luxury in Q3 2018.
2018-08-22 17:57:03
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Full Self Driving 2016 Model X?
I took delivery of my model 3 just a few days ago and I am so satisfied with it I want an X as well! I was looking at the used page and I see loads of 2016 s but none of them seem to have FSD or enhanced autopilot. Is it possible to upgrade a 2016 to FSD?
2019-06-29 05:35:34
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Depends on when it was built. FSD requires HW2 which started in October 2016. If it has side cameras then it is HW2. If it does not have side cameras then it has HW1 and only capable of regular Autopilot.
2019-06-29 07:07:35
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Are there real negative side effects to various charging methods?
For example people recommend you don t charge you iPhone up to 100% or keep it plugged it at 100% because it damages the battery or people recommend you never let your battery die and always plug it in before it completely depletes. Would these apply to Tesla batteries and are these pieces of advice even real?
2021-02-02 06:05:47
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ABC: always be charging Whenever your vehicle is parked at home plug it in. Set the max charge to 70-80% and increase it if you need the extra range for a trip
2021-02-02 06:22:55
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Is Genesis (Hyundai) copying Tesla s approach to dealerships?
I read a story in the Toronto Star today. Within that story was this: For starters they are blowing up the franchised dealer network concept and replacing it with something they are calling ‘Genesis At Home concierge service. As of Nov. 21 you will be able to contact this service by phone or online to arrange to have a demo brought to your home or office for a test drive. The transaction (assuming there is one!) will take place at your premises and at your convenience. Likewise for after-purchase service. You will contact your concierge make an appointment they will come get your car and leave you a courtesy car for the duration. Beginning in spring of 2017 Genesis vehicles will also be on display at boutique locations in major malls and other high-end shopping areas rather like what Tesla does now. A network of stand-alone Genesis Distribution Centres will also be built to do the service and store inventory. Full article here: https: www.thestar.com autos 2016 11 12 genesis-g90-is-remarkably-refined.html
2016-11-12 15:00:14
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It really just makes sense if you want to control the in-store experience to a set standard for your brand. Especially when your brand sells high-end or premium products you want your customers to have a certain perception of the brand and to reduce (it s impossible to eliminate) the risk of inconsistency in that perception controlling your in-store experience is the way to go. Tesla will have to eventually allow some sort of Authorised Resellers programme like Apple to add to their existing stores but I d rather they do that once the Model 3 helps them capture a significant mindshare of the consumers in this market. That way it makes it easier for the dealerships to sell the cars and nearly impossible for them to argue that EVs are hard to sell as an excuse to not promote them.
2016-11-12 15:18:10
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