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I made a fact sheet to throw in the glove box... | My goal was to answer most of the common questions and give details I think people should know about my car. It also gives me a quick reference if I forget something like the torque... Here it is published with [Google Slides](https: docs.google.com presentation d 1z3EkjTBeQrb7_1FHyUoJVAVQJlNhiCosuJ0H1r6FYME pub?start=false& loop=false& delayms=3000). Does anyone have suggestions on content or design? I would like to keep it relatively concise but there is definitely room for some more info. | 2014-12-02 04:54:24 | 23 | It gets confusing but you really need to list the amperage along with the voltage for charging. For example are we talking 240 V at 40 A or 240 V at 80 A. The latter coming pretty close to charging a mile a minute. | 2014-12-02 06:30:24 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,106 |
Can other EVs charge at destination chargers? | Can other EVs charge at Teslas destination chargers or are these just like the Superchargers exclusively for Tesla cars? Would the plug fit? | 2015-10-28 13:45:36 | 11 | In Europe they will have to follow the Mennekes Type 2 standard which all electric cars can use and supports up to 43 KW power. Presumably it will lead to a much faster destination-charger build-out in Europe. They can also plot many excisting chargers on the map as long as they meet the requirements set by Tesla. It will be more like : This charger is approved by Tesla but not exclusive Eagerly waiting! :) | 2015-10-28 14:24:00 | 4 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,452 |
Tesla owners how often do you wash your car? How does a dirty car impact AutoPilot features sensors? | I m coming from an old pickup that only gets clean when it rains. I m not a car guy i don t baby my vehicles. I expect i ll wash this one somewhat often but i m curious what the impact of a dusty dirty car would be on the sensors. | 2017-01-05 18:48:32 | 13 | I park outside and haven t been able to wash it in the last month or two. Haven t had any issues. | 2017-01-05 19:21:57 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,079 |
That Time It Took 7+ Hours To Charge... At A Supercharger! A Cold Weather Warning | Last weekend I flew from North Carolina to Florida for my uncle s funeral. I left my Model S at the airport with 32 miles of range left. Not ideal but still plenty to make it to the Charlotte Supercharger upon my return. Or so I thought. Upon my return the temperature outside was 12°F and the car showed 0 miles of range. The dealership was closed on Sunday so I had the AAA driver take me to the Supercharger instead. After plugging in charge rate was zero. After an hour on hold with Tesla support they were able to diagnose the problem. I was caught in a catch-22. The car will not heat the batteries if the battery is below 20% and the car will not allow charging if the battery is below 0°C. The battery was at -2°C and technically had a 12% charged frozen battery though it showed 0 mile range. After sitting in 29°F direct sunlight with the internal heat on full blast for 3-4 hours the battery finally started accepting a charge (1kW). It took another couple hours to reach max charge rate (25kW) and another hour to charge enough for me to get home. Luckily my sister lives literally across the street from the supercharger so I was able to watch some NFL Playoff games while waiting. Just a warning that cold weather can severely affect the ability to charge a low battery. TLDR: Unexpected freezing temperatures prevented charging a low battery. Keep your car charged up so it doesn t happen to you! | 2018-01-15 19:13:20 | 1,330 | The rule for no charging when below temp needs to be revised when the car is plugged in. The car should just use the grid power to heat up the car instead of the battery. Edit: to clarify I mean use grid power to warm up the battery instead of using battery energy. | 2018-01-15 19:28:15 | 671 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,626 |
Are the model 3 estimators trash? | I ordered on the morning of 4 1 17 and using this estimator: https: teslanomics.co when-will-i-get-my-tesla-model-3-find-out-exactly-when-now I get a delivery of November 17? How is that possible if they barely plan to deliver 20kish by December? | 2017-07-06 17:04:41 | 9 | All those estimators are honestly worthless. | 2017-07-06 17:09:37 | 51 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 2,198 |
Quick delivery | Ordered my S60 just before the deadline and swapped to a 75 with order confirmation on the 25th. In speaking with my delivery person it could be ready in mid-May. Waaaaay faster than expected which is awesome. Not sure if it s because I m in Fremont or if Q2 deliveries are soft. Nonetheless I m happy! | 2017-05-02 04:06:04 | 5 | posted on another thread but just ordered a S p100d and when I ordered it said June delivery. Because of the price change I figured that Tesla would get a crap ton of orders and I wouldn t see the car until Jun july. Now my estimated delivery is MAY early Jun. Very happy!!!. I live in the northwest btw | 2017-05-02 11:20:49 | 3 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 16,032 |
DIY Tesla API Token Generation | I realize this post isn t for everyone. If there s no way you d connect any 3rd party services (TeslaFi Tezlab EV Car etc.) for fear of data sharing and such this post isn t for you. My paranoia sits at around 9 out of 10 or so and I thought I d share this method for like-minded folks. I ve typed up the approach I use which leverages Postman an API development and testing environment. This allows you to ping the Tesla API directly yourself without any fear that someone s storing your username and password. I ve been doing this for a while but only just now decided to share. If it helps one person then I guess my time creating this post was worthwhile. Cheers. [https: docs.google.com document d 1bKpgPw9ciKk\_Oziiov2j\_SJs2ZZUrT5FMqubtIiD7o4 edit?usp=sharing](https: docs.google.com document d 1bKpgPw9ciKk_Oziiov2j_SJs2ZZUrT5FMqubtIiD7o4 edit?usp=sharing) | 2019-06-30 19:45:18 | 52 | if you have an iOS device I recommend downloading the app Shortcuts (from Apple) then go to this site: [https: teslacuts.com](https: teslacuts.com) and tap on Tesla Access Token it ll run on your device and then you ll be able to copy the token. | 2019-06-30 19:56:51 | 17 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 4,425 |
Experience with range mode and wet weather wheel traction + braking (2015 Model S 85D) | After about 20K miles on OEM tires I switched to Pirelli Cinturator P7 All Season Plus. I have 35K miles on them so far and had regretted going with the Pirelli s since almost Day 1 since they are squirrely as fuck on wet pavement fishtailing in low speed mundane spots such as freeway entrances exits and turning at stop lights (tread life good inflated to 45). What I didn t realize until recently was that I had switched to almost exclusively using range mode the same time I switched tires. And a couple of weeks ago with winter looming and debating whether or not to replace tires with plenty of tread life still left on them for the first time in my life it occurred to me to do some testing. And I learned that with range mode OFF I suddenly had traction again and the rear stopped kicking out wide on me. I also noticed issues with range mode and wet conditions massively negatively impacting braking. I went so far as to bring it to a Tesla service center where they tested the brakes and said they were fine. In hindsight I realize they tested it on a dry day in range mode (or at least I m assuming they left it in range mode). I ve never had my tires screech from braking but I have had 2 hard brakes both in wet conditions both times in range mode and both times the brakes instantly locked up and the car very slowly came to a halt. The second time was getting cut-off as I was leaving a car wash very slow speeds maybe 5-10 mph. It was like the brakes didn t even work. So I spent this weekend testing range mode on off in dry wet conditions and confirmed that while hard braking in wet conditions (ie the rain) with range mode on can at times be nothing short of terrifying it s a completely different story with range mode off. Has anyone that typically uses range mode tested their brakes after a car wash or in the rain? I enjoyed the convenience of range mode but at this point I m inclined to never use it again. Sad to lose range mode but happy to have a car I feel I can trust and enjoy driving again. | 2019-12-16 18:59:48 | 14 | Try the [Continental PureContact LS](https: www.continentaltire.com product purecontact-ls-19555-r-16-87v) or [Yokohama ADVAN Sport](https: www.yokohamatire.com tires advan-sport-a-s) tires next time. Even in range mode should give you the traction you re looking for. Personally I found the MXM4s on my S to be meh. Okay summer tires shit winter or wet tires. | 2019-12-16 19:23:53 | 6 | Model Y Wheel Options | 6,150 |
Oh sh*t handles and clothes hanger hook | Any idea if the model 3 will have the handles above doors? Figure it would be a cheap to put those but I can t really find a picture of that area in the cabin. Also do you think there is a clothes hanger hook in the back to hang like a suit or something? | 2017-08-03 13:45:20 | 31 | The handles are graphically represented on the touchscreen. On the UI just press the WTF button then select driver or passenger side then tap Oh shit . Pinch to adjust size. | 2017-08-03 15:32:13 | 52 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,289 |
Smart Summon saved a coworker and I from a swarm of bees! | My coworkers nickname for me has been Tesla ever since I got my Model 3. I think I may have blew his mind We were leaving work for the day so the parking lot was fairly empty and from the second story window we saw a swarm of thousands of bees in the parking lot. As we watched the swarm from the second story we saw people sprinting from the building across the parking lot to their cars hiding behind bags and coats. Both of our cars were on the other side of the swarm. I struggled to contain my giddiness as I asked if he wanted me drive him to his car as I could have the Tesla come through the swarm to pick us up. He looked at me confused and then as he saw me take my phone out of my pocket he asked incredulously you can control it from your phone?! As I began the smart summon he was yelling for another coworker to come see. and we watched as the car drove across the lot through the bees and do its cute little turn at the front door. We walked down the stairs and out the front door. Then of course the hilariousness of trying to explain how to open the Model 3 doors when we are trying to get in quickly to avoid bees. When we got in the car he was blown away by the giant screen in the middle and the wood on the dash. I dropped him off at his car convinced we live in the future. | 2020-03-14 03:55:32 | 269 | Smart summon is a gimmick until it isn t. | 2020-03-14 04:06:51 | 183 | Issues with Smart Summon | 17,327 |
8.0 AP after a few days of use | I m a heavy AP user and the new 8.0 AP seems much more stable. - It s picking up a lot more cars to track especially far in the distance - Takes the curves a lot smoother. - It seems to keep a safer distance from jersey barriers. Couple of stretches of the highway where I previously had to take over are now being handled. - The lane change seems more aggressive and much more natural - The initial flashing of the dash hands on wheel warning no longer pauses the music (or maybe I just notice it before it stops the music) which is great. Overall my AP confidence is higher. Anyone notice other changes? | 2016-09-28 14:28:32 | 113 | I m finding it better in some situations and worse in others. * Some curves are jerkier as it ping pongs more within the lane. * Others are smooth but are so smooth that the car starts drifiting into the other lane. * TACC doesn t seem to be keeping as consistent a distance with the car in front of me as it used to. * Lane change is slightly better but still sometimes doesn t work at all despite nobody being in my blind spots. * Still occasionally tends to lose the right side lines when approaching a truck in the right lane causing it to swoop toward the truck. * Overall doesn t seem to see the lines as well as before. * It does slow down sooner when approaching traffic at speed. My confidence in AP is lower and I look forward to more fine tunings as they work to get it right. | 2016-09-28 15:37:03 | 35 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 822 |
People who bought a used P trims have they been reliable? | As the title says Wondering about the reliability of the P specific trims. For other manufacturers they tend to be slightly less reliable (or at least it seems like it) becacuse of the nature of the car and that they are usually driven harder than non performance variants. But EVs are much simpler and motors are the same (for model 3 at least) and it s just a matter of discharge rate etc. Just wondering what your experience has been like. Are Tesla P trims just as reliable as non P trims models? | 2019-05-30 15:52:31 | 10 | Mine has been flawless for almost 50K miles. The P s have upgraded components where needed. As far as driving hard like all newer high HP cars you just can t due to tickets and running out of room. It s the low mid range cars (think Prius as an example) that gets flogged hard trying to keep up with faster cars. | 2019-05-30 15:58:17 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,070 |
Towing capabilities of Model X and Model Y | So we were thinking about getting the new electric Audi SUV which will release in 2019 (of course i would prefer a Tesla) and so i asked myself the question how much faster the battery drains while towing something behind the car. Does someone have numbers from the Model X as it is the only electric car which can actually tow something. And do you think that the Model Y will have towing capabilities? Do you think that the Model Y will have one standard battery size and there will be a performance model and long-range+dual motor models like the Model 3 as opposed to the S X where you can choose between battery sizes | 2018-08-26 09:50:11 | 8 | Search YouTube for Tesla Bjorn. He has done tons of Model X tow tests. It s about a 50% hit depending on the trailer surface area. Seems more about aero drag vs weight. Low profile trailers are better than say a livestock trailer that is tall. Model X is rated at 5 000lbs but can easily tow more and you can get a brake booster to do so safely. Model Y will probably have towing option for like 3 000lbs. Shrugs | 2018-08-26 11:23:13 | 13 | Hitch Bike Rack Review | 21,389 |
What took you too long to find out about yours? | Randomly browsing tesla stuff I saw a pic of a kid in the rear jump seats and noticed there s room for kid legs in front of the rear seats... Never occurred to me that would need to be there as I never considered getting those seats. I ve had the car for 2 mos and didn t know there was a storage section nearly larger than that of my old car s trunk... Just waiting to be discovered. My delivery person was not amazing. But the car is! | 2016-11-26 04:12:30 | 33 | On the subject of the rear facing seats the passenger side of the back seat can fold down with the rear facing seats up and latched in place. The other (driver) side of the rear seat can t fold down as the rear facing seats are latched to it. Being able to fold down part of the back seat allows better air circulation when it s hot but also allows access to a nifty storage space that will accommodate long items. I store a large umbrella in mine most of the time. That same space of course is accessible by folding down the third row seats. I ll post a pic of it tomorrow to explain better. Edit: also OP while not related to Tesla just wanted to share... I had a 350z that had this cool little compartment that could be accessed by lifting a panel inside the glove compartment. The glove compartment in that car is oddly behind the passenger seat with the secret cubby under the bottom panel of the glove compartment. Had the car 7 years. Discovered that little compartment the day I sold it as I was walking the new owner through everything. | 2016-11-26 04:43:45 | 6 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 22,996 |
How long can Tesla realistically hold current and incoming used CPO MS vehicles? | There just aren t any CPO vehicles in their website for sale now. I am sure people are turning their used MS in (Not all but enough). How long can Tesla hold on to this incoming old stock? Realistically speaking.... Can they hold on to ALL incoming stock forever? Where is the tipping point? Does it cost Tesla anything to hold on to this old MS stock? | 2016-05-07 20:45:22 | 11 | From what I have heard they are using these cars as loaners. While it does cost them money to hold onto them it would cost more money to have any other loaner cars. | 2016-05-07 20:58:26 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,356 |
V9 EAP now navigates difficult off-ramp | I ve been testing EAP after each firmware update to see if any improvements have been made. Since I got the car in June it has not been able to navigate the off-ramp near my home. It would give up right at the tightest part of the curve and give the two hands on the wheel alert. Today I tried it after installing V9 and it worked great! It made it through the curve at a reasonable speed and didn t even alert me to touch the wheel. I m truly impressed! [Off-ramp video](https: imgur.com a VF6FM1n) | 2018-10-14 05:28:38 | 85 | Yeah I took it on some winding roads today and it definitely was better about sharper curves. It s definitely not perfect I did catch it going out of the lane but better than it s ever been! | 2018-10-14 06:34:53 | 26 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 22,003 |
There aren t a lot of Model 3 reviews from traditional car enthusiasts so I wrote my own | While I know the Model 3 has been out for 2 years now it seems a lot of reviews are from Tesla fans and not so much “traditional” car enthusiasts so I thought I d write a review voicing my opinions. That plus I want my thoughts recorded for my own posterity. For some time now I ve been considering purchasing a Tesla Model 3. I m generally a more frugal car enthusiast and spending $39.9k on any other car would be nuts to me but the Tesla at least on paper offers a lot to like: there s of course the instant acceleration at any speed but there s also the super low CoG lack of distractions in the cabin (so you can focus on driving!) no warm-up and cool-down procedures OTA updates that occasionally bring performance and range increases and no guilt associated with lots of unnecessary driving which I personally do value. I was also very tempted by Autopilot since there are times I just don t care to drive and would be perfectly happy to let the car do the work. So to assuage my curiosity I rented a long-range RWD model for two days from Turo. I spent a couple minutes adjusting settings drove off and… instantly hated it. Right off the bat: * I could not for the life of me get the seat into a comfortable position. The seat bottom was bolstered too much and cut into my thigh the pressure on my back was awful no matter where I put the lumbar support and the headrest intrudes forwards and *doesn t adjust at all* so when sitting upright your head actually touches the seat before your shoulders do. Try to put your shoulders against the seat too and you end up sitting like a hunchback. I absolutely *hated* this and despite frequently adjusting the seat throughout the two days I couldn t make it any better. * The driver s mirror doesn t adjust far enough out. I like to follow the recommended method for [eliminating blind spots]( https: www.caranddriver.com features a15131074 how-to-adjust-your-mirrors-to-avoid-blind-spots ) but couldn t move the mirror far enough to do so. * The turn signal is BMW-style in that it doesn t stay where you put it but rather springs up after you press it so it s impossible to tell what it s doing by feel alone. Even BMW is reverting on this because it s so awful. That said I did eventually get used to it. * The car was dog slow. Punch it and it accelerated at a Civic pace. I ve driven Teslas before so I knew that wasn t right. I eventually found out the car was in Chill Mode and I fixed it. BUT my time spent driving it in Chill Mode made me realize just how much of the enjoyment of this car is dependent on acceleration. Take away the acceleration and you may as well be driving a slightly quieter Civic. But after getting to drive the car some more I found there were definitely a number of things I liked: * Acceleration at most speeds was solid. While this was no P100D it definitely has good low-end torque and of course acceleration is uninterrupted by gear changes. I found it started to run out of steam after 60 or so and there wasn t much of anything left after 80. Still great for darting around traffic. * The traction control is the best I ve ever encountered. While I m not sure if it s possible to turn it off I don t really care: while you can feel it working it s very unobtrusive and its purpose is more to help put the power down in low-traction situations than to limit power. A huge change from the TC in my Mazdaspeed3 which just cuts engine power at the first sign of wheelspin. * I like the interior overall. The lack of buttons encourages you to focus more on driving (though it does forego something I ll discuss towards the end) and the touch screen is very responsive with a mostly-intuitive layout. Materials were nice but nothing special. The dash is soft touch though it actually looks like hard plastic. The piano-black plastic trim in the center was unsurprisingly already scratched despite the car only having 10k miles and the 12v outlet was in a place that left me scratching my head but I enjoyed the clean minimalism overall. I do think wiper and headlight controls should *not* be in the touchscreen since they re safety-related. * Steering had a nice weight to it: in sport mode it was actually heavier than my MS3 whose weight I already felt was quite good. I did not ever take it out of sport mode. * I could leave the AC on and not worry about it robbing power from the engine. In my MS3 (and virtually every other gas car) I try not to use AC for this reason alone but in the Tesla no problem. * Autopilot in heavy traffic was heavenly. Move to the center lane engage AP and let the car do the work. I don t drive much in heavy traffic but if I did it would be difficult to *not* get this car based on that alone. I found it was unfazed by rain too which was a nice bonus. * The driving definitely was guilt-free as I d hoped. I did a number of unnecessary trips and was excited to do so. Didn t need to give the car any time to warm up or cool down and while of course I used more battery punching it I had no qualms doing so because a) pollution externalities are minimal b) cost was minimal and c) I knew I d have a “full tank” again the next morning thus the extra “fuel” used hardly mattered. Except… * …I was planning to charge in my garage using my dryer outlet. Turns out I had the wrong type of outlet so I charged the first night on 120v but only gained ~45 miles of range over ~10 hours. So the next day I used a supercharger. Supercharging was great though: spent only about 40 mins there went from 64 miles to ~250 and it cost $10.80. So about a third what it would cost to gas up my premium-fuel MS3. But unfortunately while I *really liked* those positives there were also a lot of things I really hated: * The aforementioned seat comfort. That alone would be a reason for me to not get the car. It was *really* bad. That s why you try before you buy! * Missing features. The two biggest for me were Carplay and ventilated seats. I spoke to a guy at the supercharger who said he just uses “hey Siri” as a substitute. Yeah that s not really a substitute. He also seemed unaware ventilated seats were a thing now. * The center screen rebooted on me twice while driving. No idea why the owner swears she s never had that happen. To its credit it didn t affect drivability even with AP running the second time and it resumed navigation when it started back up. * The glass roof. You can t even really see enjoy it while driving but you can certainly *feel* it. I m in Texas while it only got up to 89 degrees that afternoon sun beating down on my head was unbearably bad despite the tint. I can t imagine how it would be on a 110 degree day. And no there s no cover for it so you get the full force of the sun on your head no matter what. And of course no ventilated seats so my back got quite sweaty. I cranked the AC more than I usually would but all that meant was my hands were freezing while my head and back were hot and sweaty. I was not a fan (heh). Fortunately there are third party sunshades available but it seems ridiculous to me that customers of a $40k car should need to provide their own non-integrated solution. * As I said AP was great in heavy traffic. It was usually okay in free-flowing traffic. But when it wasn t okay it *really* wasn t okay. Phantom braking giving up on sweeping curves mid-curve (and reverting to going straight forcing me to wrestle control) sometimes seeing stopped cars and other times plowing towards them giving up on perfectly safe lane changes mid-change waiting 5 full seconds before even beginning a lane change braking to merge in behind someone when there s plenty of space up ahead waiting a while to accelerate again after someone made a right turn in front of me (and then accelerating at a snail s pace) and so on. In anything besides super-heavy and completely free-flowing traffic it was often more trouble to use than it was worth. I found myself yelling at the car and wrestling control (sometimes out of desire sometimes out of necessity) quite often. All that said I d rather have *some* AP than not have it at all so I can t complain too much. * I m a big fan of basic cruise control but the only cruise this car offers is traffic-aware which means if you want to just cruise there s no way to avoid the phantom braking and freakouts when people merge in 200 ft ahead. You also can t approach a car from behind and manually pass it because it will have started braking long before you re anywhere near close enough to require passing. It s almost as though the car would prefer you to just sit in the free-flowing passing lane which is obviously not okay. * One-pedal driving took some getting used to but I did. But while I like the concept I m putting this in the negatives section because execution could be way better. The Chevy Bolt has a paddle you can pull to enable regen which I much prefer as it allows you much finer control while also allowing you to rest your foot and just coast as you would in a gas car. Also regen alone won t bring you to a full stop whereas in other EVs it will. * You definitely feel the weight of this car. I took it on some scenic roads and while I never really drove beyond 5 10ths you could still feel the car s desire to plow ahead when pushed… but at the same time the low CoG and good TC kept it reasonably planted. It was kind of a weird combination of sensations and I suspect the overinflated (45 PSI) tires didn t help. * While steering weight was good steering feedback was fairly poor. It wasn t full-on disconnected but it wasn t very communicative either. * This is not a practical car cargo-wise. I went shopping and bought four stacking chairs. They d fit in my MS3 no problem in this I really had to finagle them to fit into the rear seat area. This alone is why I was honestly more intrigued by the Model Y what with it having a hatch instead of a trunk but since the base model won t be out for another 2 years I thought I might just put up with the limitations of a Model 3 until then. Eh. But all of these pale in comparison to the two biggest drawbacks I found: * “Tesla people.” I don t want to paint with a big brush as I d still consider myself one but there tend to be two types of people drawn to Teslas: a) car people who like the car for its performance and abilities because despite my complaints above it s a solid daily overall and b) “Tesla people” who came from Camrys and Priuses and have never experienced any other car in the $40k+ range (or even another performance car in general) and thus think Teslas are the greatest cars in the world. They re people who post [memes like this.]( https: i.redd.it 7bkhyjhetbw21.jpg) They re people who would never even consider any car that isn t a Tesla and as a result don t know or even care what other cars have to offer. The guy at the supercharger who didn t know ventilated seats were a thing is a “Tesla person.” Same with the owner of the car who admitted she didn t care about cars until she bought her Tesla. While obviously this is not a fault of the car it annoys me because if half the potential market is okay with locking into a single brand of car forever it discourages other EV competition that s sorely needed. Plus the smug factor *can* be annoying depending on how it s presented. * Nothing about this car really evokes emotion. Some may find it odd that I even care but this is actually the #1 thing I care about when test driving a potential new car. I want to feel emotionally connected to the car between driving it staring at it or even just daydreaming about it. So why couldn t I connect with the Tesla? I think the biggest part of it is the lack of analog experience. As humans we are intuitively attuned to analog physical even visceral experiences *even when those experiences are imperfect.* It s why playing with your dog or having sex with a human you love are so much more satisfying that interacting with a perfectly obedient dog on a screen or watching a perfect 10 in a porno. In many cars you get this experience in a number of ways: Exhaust note. Turbo spool. Craftsmanship. Manual transmission. Oversteer. Road feedback. Engine rumble. And in the Tesla with its relative lack of driver engagement you just don t get that same experience. In fact a good chunk of Tesla s MO is about actively *hiding* that experience what with the focus on self-driving and even a lack of physical buttons. I get that a lot of people *want* this for the same reasons most people would prefer an Apple Watch to a Patek and that s fine but it s not what I want as an enthusiast. The other reason I couldn t connect is it s not a very “special” car. There s no story behind it. “We needed a mass-market electric car so we built one” is a good reason for the car to exist but it s not a *story.* Sometimes a story will come with time: many people look back on their first cars with rose-tinted glasses not because of the cars themselves but because of the memories made in those cars. But other stories already occurred or are still unfolding and when you buy the car now you re buying into that story. It s part of the reason BMWs with racing pedigree are so popular. It s why people shopping at Whole Foods pay extra to read a blurb about the farmer who provided their locally-sourced organic free-range ethically-killed gluten-free vegan broccoli whereas the shopper at Walmart only buys based on price. In actuality the two broccolis likely aren t all that different from each other but the Whole Foods one is “special ” and that matters on an emotional level. The Model 3 is not a special car. **Final thoughts:** I think what I d like most of all is for another manufacturer to produce a real actual viable competitor to the Model 3. Looking at everything available now and even in the next two years I m just not seeing anything. $39.9k gets you a Model 3 with 240 miles of range acceleration close to that of my MS3 OTA updates and AP for better or worse. Every other EV right now is either slower lower range more expensive lacks any sort of AP lacks OTA or even several of the above. And the EVs coming out don t appear to fare much better: the ones most discussed are more competitive with the Model S (which debuted in 2012!) than the 3 and even there they often fall short at least on paper. And none of them have Tesla s two biggest not-so-secret weapons: superchargers and gigafactories. While public chargers exist superchargers are still a huge advantage due to a) public perception and b) the fact that most public chargers suck. Often they are too expensive there are too few they re too slow they re full they re blocked or they re broken. Car manufacturers understandably want to just produce the cars and leave the infrastructure up to others but that s a tough sell. Even if you charge at home 99% of the time the lack of reliable public infrastructure really hurts adoption. I know I personally would not consider a Bolt (the most viable currently-available non-Tesla EV) in part because of it. And of course the gigafactories are a huge advantage due to the cost savings enabled by vertical integration. I don t see Tesla losing either of these advantages any time soon and other manufacturers will struggle to compete as a result. But I really hope they do as we really need competition to eliminate the long list of negatives above. **Conclusion:** I rented this Tesla Model 3 for the purposes of determining once and for all whether I want to order one or not. And now I can honestly say… I m more conflicted than ever. Despite the huge list of glaring negatives above this car is a fine daily driver. And daily driving is most of what I do—I have to actually travel a bit to get to twisties so I don t go frequently and while I d like to go to a track *someday* I wouldn t want to beat my daily up on it anyways. So by that metric AP + a bit of low-end power should be key to making the best daily in the world right? And yet I just can t see this being my only car. I suspect I would miss 80% of what I love about cars and be hot and uncomfortable the rest of the time. But a pillow + aftermarket sunshade + a [headrest mod]( https: www.youtube.com watch?v=J4vIBNx0rBQ) can fix all that right? And I d probably *come* to love the car eventually as I write my own story surely?? Truth is I have no idea and have learned nothing. | 2019-06-20 14:00:02 | 91 | > it seems a lot of reviews are from Tesla fans and not so much “traditional” car enthusiasts so I thought I d write a review voicing my opinions. No offense but what qualifies you to say this? > Take away the acceleration and you may as well be driving a slightly quieter Civic. You lost me here. | 2019-06-20 14:46:22 | 48 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 20,931 |
Model 3 front end: is that a tow hook port? | As somebody who requires a front plate - i ve been hoping for a solution that doesn t just stick a box in the middle of the bumper. On all the RC cars it looks to me like that big circle hides a threaded nut for a tow hook: it s similarly sized to other vehicle solutions and there is only one so its definitely not a sensor. We ve also seen the cover removed on some RC cars but nothing ever attached. If it is a tow hook this means a front plate solution is easy and won t mess with the bumper at all. Hopefully this keeps Tesla from installing the plate box before delivery! Take a look at the Model 3 gallery and LMK what you think it could be. Thanks also to whoever is manning this gallery! https: goo.gl photos FPbDudMuYJNSMjtL7 Edit: examples from gallery https: goo.gl photos 7WYE9xYZg2D52Cjk9 https: goo.gl photos 1LzU3an4e6Z9nqs39 | 2017-06-15 14:57:42 | 10 | You might get a little more traction if you posted a few sample images of your question. Linking to the gallery with thousands of images is a little unreasonable. I m presuming you mean [this circle](https: photos.google.com share AF1QipP2I8ZIIzlldnvpNzH5OZm2WJV7vDa9kP7MtD-aQaL19bb51wSRwfIrHf3AwzuQ-g photo AF1QipM3IKyZORH1vECy6YdHWO4bKh3k5SuFCrOwQb91?key=Q2xNd09Wam91b29IZVJNNDFBeFYyYktpcFJPbVln)? | 2017-06-15 15:07:30 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,175 |
Tesla Energy Quotes | For those that have recently done a solar project how well does Tesla compare to other installers? I just started looking into solar and it seems like Tesla is pushing powerwalls as an important part of the solution. I got a quote for $6.50 watt in Northern California with a 20+ year payback period to meet about 85% of my energy needs. Unless I m missing something it seems like the powerwall isn t doing any favors for the ROI. If I take those out it s about $4.22. Going to get some more quotes soon but wanted to hear other s experiences. | 2017-11-21 03:46:55 | 8 | Of the 3 quotes I got over the summer Tesla s was highest at about $3.60 watt before incentives (which don t apply to me currently the reason I didn t follow through.) Despite theirs being the highest I would still go with theirs and it s silly but only because of how well the app is integrated with the car and Powerwall. I m slightly obsessive over data and I feel having instantaneous access to what s going on between the panels battery storage and car is well worth the extra few thousand. | 2017-11-21 06:03:17 | 5 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 18,922 |
Phoenix HOV lane question | Does anyone have experience with driving a Tesla in Phoenix-area HOV lane without the designated license plate? I despise the design of the Arizona HOV plate and wonder if cops will overlook regulations bc all Teslas are electric. | 2017-12-06 15:11:54 | 7 | The thing that allows you to drive in HOV in PHX is the clean air plate not the type of car you are driving. If you get pulled over and you are super nice to the officer maybe he won t ticket you but probably he will. The Tempe service center already had a clean air plate and a complimentary 5 year registration on the car when I picked it up so if you are buying from Tesla it is kind of a lot of effort to get a different plate so that you will be able to get tickets. | 2017-12-06 17:09:56 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,149 |
If you can stand one more post about 12.6... | I got the notification for a software update last night before dinner. I assumed it would be 12.10 because I thought 12.6 was only going to EAP. But the update showed I was getting 12.6 so I installed it immediately. After dinner the wife and I took it for a test drive. I was driving on local roads so I used TACC not AP but I am assuming the behavior will be the same. As soon as we left the driveway and headed down the block and the stop sign notification came up as I am only a few hundred feet from the corner. The car slowed and came to a smooth stop. Awesome! I made the turn and engaged TACC again. It went through the same routine about a block later at the next stop sign. Now I turned on a main road. We headed down towards the first traffic light about 1 2 mile down the road. As we approached the light the notification came up about an approaching traffic light. The light was green so I tapped the stalk once and we proceeded. As I approached the light it turned yellow. The car kept going but I swear I felt it hesitate almost like it was going to stop then kept going. The next light was interesting. It was only a few hundred feet further but there is a slight hill and a curve in the road. I am pretty sure the warning came up before the light was visible. It seems that they are using both maps and actual vision to detect lights as has been speculated. Also a note for those concerned about the car stopping for green lights and causing other drivers to get mad at them - in every case I had plenty of time to see the notification and tap the stalk to proceed. I also had enough time to do this before the car even slowed although I let it slow down once or twice to see the reaction. (Spoiler - it will stop at a green light) Another interesting thing was there is a main road near my house that has several pedestrian crossings in a row just a few hundred feet between each one. As we were driving through this stretch of road the stop sign warning flashed very briefly on the screen when we were almost on top of the crossing and the car hesitated briefly but noticeably. Then it proceeded to the next one and did the same thing again. I didn t even realize why it was doing this until later. I thought I was just getting some weird malfunction or it was detecting stop signs from the cross streets but then I remembered that there are the three crossings in rapid succession (I will watch for this again next time I go down this road). Also there is a place where the main road goes straight without a traffic light but there is a two lane turnoff that allows a left across traffic to a mall that has a red or green arrow light. I got the traffic light notification there even though I was not in that lane. However at the point I received the notification it did not know if I was going in that lane or not so I guess it is correct. And if we had FSD it would “know” which lane I were going in. The only potential edge case I see is when we get to the point where it is no longer stopping for green lights - what would it do here? Because it wouldn t know until the last second if I were going straight and avoiding the light or turning left and have to obey the light. It handled two intersections with traffic lights right in a row with no problem. After prompting me about the first I overrode then it immediately prompted me about the second. One thing that definitely needs work are flashing yellow lights. I went through two of these and in both instances the car proceeded along normally without warning then suddenly stopped just as I was about to go through the intersection. I was able to override it by holding down the accelerator but it was mildly disconcerting. Overall I was very impressed. It isn t all that useful yet but it is a sign of things to come. Also it is pretty neat to drive around just using your hands on the wheel and the stalk and not having to use the pedals. Edit: I was driving a little while ago and found yet another feature. I was on a side road in a residential area with TACC at 25mph. I was coming up to an intersection where the road came to a “T” but there was no stop sign. I still got the familiar “Traffic Control in 500 feet” message but instead of showing a stop sign the message displayed a yellow diamond sign with a black T although there was not one of these signs on the road. I thought that was really cool and went around the block to try again. This time it did nothing and would have went right through the intersection which would have put me on someone s lawn. I will be “testing” this feature on this road again in the future. | 2020-04-26 13:32:59 | 58 | Do you feel like using it on these streets is currently easier or more relaxing than having no AP at all? | 2020-04-26 14:04:33 | 14 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 9,503 |
UK Low-emission vehicles grant for Model 3 | I was having a look at what the UK offer in terms of EV grants and according to this web page (https: www.gov.uk plug-in-car-van-grants what-youll-get) you can get up to 35% (max £4 500) off the vehicles price deducted by the manufacturer. The Model S and X both get these grants so I am assuming the Model 3 will as well but would it get the full £4500 off? | 2017-07-29 21:11:14 | 5 | The real question is whether it will be still around by 2019 which looks unlikely. It s currently [set to expire in October 2017](https: www.gov.uk government publications plug-in-car-grant plug-in-car-grant-eligibility-guidance#future-review-of-grant-levels). Could be renewed further but the tories commitment to the environment and EVs is questionable at best. | 2017-07-29 23:04:36 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,591 |
i find this extremely irritating tesla not disclosing their battery size in kwh | electricity rates vary widely city to city tesla is purposely unwilling to disclose how how it would cost per charge you can only find out after you have purchased the car charging cost are lower than gasoline but dont anyone think that we have a right to know how much exactly it will cost us yearly monthly etc before buying? i guess we will find out sooner or later i guess tesla has not officially launched this car yet we will find out in few months when a non tesla employee get a hand on one or even a tesla or spacex employee who is not bound by nda. | 2017-08-01 04:53:04 | 9 | An extra 5kwh swinging one way or another isn t going to make that big of a difference lol... maybe by a few dollars a year. I think you re over stressing this. | 2017-08-01 04:56:45 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,394 |
[Discussion] Sent my model 3 in for service they want us to pay $250 to replace a faulty door handle | Took our model 3 in for service last week due to a myriad of issues. They fixed most of them ignored the phone connectivity issues and blamed it on us said it didn t exist. Got the invoice and they are charging us $250 to replace the driverside door handle. The problem was that it randomly started sticking and not closing unless we pushed it closed. I ve talked to a few other owners and it seems to be somewhat common. Why the hell would this not be covered under warranty? The car has 2k miles. Thoughts experiences? Edit: Just received this from Tesla: The balance due for the door handle was a mistake. I have corrected it so there is no charge for this service and it is covered by the vehicle warranty. | 2018-07-24 15:03:27 | 5 | I ll probably get downvoted for this but whatever. They should replace the handle for free but i also noticed in a video you posted that you open the door and the door handle doesn t go back to its regular position yet you keep trying to slam the door with the handle out. Isn t it pretty obvious that you need to push the handle in before closing the door? I would imagine that was not good for the latch and you seemed pretty indifferent on if it was damaging the car further. | 2018-07-24 15:21:51 | 53 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 24,725 |
NY solar installation quote today | Hi all I just got a quote from tesla s solar division about a solar + powerwall install. I d put in my info because I was interested a few months back but they said (and still do say last I checked) that they don t service NY (western NY around buffalo). For anyone looking to get tesla panels good luck! Maybe they re rolling out support for our state now. | 2020-09-17 18:28:12 | 9 | Ironic considering that they make the solar panels in Buffalo. | 2020-09-17 21:14:53 | 8 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 13,575 |
Bug Report: auto high beams turn off after sentry events | Running 2019.32.12.2. I started noticing my auto high beams are now always off in the morning when I get into the car. Sometimes they are left on as intended. Then I began noticing this only happens if my car has had any sentry events overnight. Am hoping tesla will fix this bug and allow me to leave my auto high beams on 24 7 regardless of sentry events. | 2019-10-17 19:43:23 | 35 | This explains my experience as well! I was wondering what the correlation was. | 2019-10-17 20:20:43 | 14 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 3,054 |
Tesla on Ebay | https: www.ebay.com i 322814818647 Came across this listing on Ebay for a 2016 s75 for under $59k. Looks like a great deal but I am alway weary of making such a large purchase from an unknown vendor that I am unable to meet in person. Just thought I would share if anyone is in area and can vet seller and vehicle out looks like great deal. I have a model 3 reservation but keep getting the itch to purchase a used model S. I am trying to stay strong and not give in but it s tough. | 2017-10-10 13:44:32 | 10 | To save other people from spending 10 minutes like I did trying to figure out where this car is located in order to determine if I could help the OP out by being local the location is **Shrewsbury Massachusetts United States** | 2017-10-10 14:21:39 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,059 |
[Discussion] Anyone REALLY far away from a Service Center? | The post the other day from the Lady in Northern NY got me thinking. The final issue keeping me from (finally!) ordering my 3 is the nearest Service Center is 6+ hours away. If I pick it up and there are issues I realistically would have no recourse for getting things fixed unless it is update fixable . Has anyone else experienced issues when so far away from a service center? I have a 3 31 reservation AWD is finally available... and this is my last emotional hurdle before ordering. | 2018-06-29 22:05:48 | 9 | How far is REALLY far away? I m a 11 hour drive away. 6-ish hours drive plus 5-ish hours of slow painful level 2 charging (Saskatchewan). | 2018-06-29 23:29:01 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,160 |
Gigafactory Tour | Long time lurker...First time poster. I just received my new Model S 100D a few weeks ago and I m loving it. I ll be in Reno for business at the end of this month (August) and I was wondering if anyone knows how I could get a tour of the Gigafactory for myself and two coworkers. There doesn t seem to be anything online and the manager at my local Tesla showroom wasn t able to find out anything. Does anyone have any suggestions? | 2017-08-16 03:44:04 | 10 | I think Tesla only does Fremont factory tours for owners. | 2017-08-16 11:38:11 | 4 | Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions | 7,218 |
First long road trip with our Model 3! Some thoughts... | We got our LR RWD Model 3 back in April 2018. We ve done several smaller trips but nothing ever more than 280 miles 450 kms round trip. & #x200B This time we drove for [1488 miles](https: imgur.com SjAz2is.jpg) [2395 kms](https: i.imgur.com HAXxnnn.jpg) over a period of 7 days. My wife wanted to take our Camry for this but I really wanted to put the Supercharger network to use and see how well it truly does (also I hate driving for long periods so definitely wanted NoAP to do the bulk of the work for me! :D) For context here s what we did (everything was a single night except for Sedona): 1. Irvine CA 1. Supercharger Indio CA 2. Supercharger Quartzsite AZ 2. Phoenix AZ 1. Supercharger Scottsdale AZ when arriving 2. Supercharger Scottsdale AZ when leaving 3. Sedona AZ (2 nights) 1. Supercharger Sedona AZ when arriving 2. Hotel charger overnight 3. Supercharger Sedona AZ when leaving 4. Flagstaff AZ 1. Supercharger Flagstaff AZ when arriving 2. Supercharger Flagstaff AZ when leaving 5. Page AZ 1. Supercharger Page AZ when arriving 2. Supercharger Page AZ when leaving 6. Zion National Park UT 1. Hotel charger while hiking 2. Supercharger St George when leaving 7. Las Vegas NV 1. Supercharger Las Vegas Link hotel when leaving 2. Supercharger Primm CA on the way home 3. Supercharger Baker CA on the way home 4. Supercharger Fontana CA on the way home 8. Irvine CA # Range Anxiety I was a bit anxious when we left I knew the car could easily handle 200+ miles 320+ kms but we still supercharged to 100% almost every night or mornings just to be safe . Real anxiety hit between Page AZ to Zion AZ. While the distance between these two locations is not that much for any Teslas (116 miles 186 kms) the fact that we were staying in a hotel near Zion National Park that didn t have supercharger (closest one being St George \~50 miles 80 kms) that it was 28F -2C in a mountainous area with potential snow ice on the way was stressful to say the least. Thankfully when we arrived we found a destination charger that was available and were able to charge for a few hours while we did a small hike in the Park. But without that I was seriously considering skipping Zion entirely and driving directly to St George to supercharge. They really should add a Supercharger around Kanab UT imo that would allow to recharge on the way to mountainous areas and have more options to explore we really weren t able to do anything but go straight to Zion. We also followed Tesla s recommendation to heat the car before leaving then turning off AC and only leaving seat warmers on. That worked well for the entire trip I m not sure how much mileage that saved us but it worked just fine! # Supercharger network We were probably a little over cautious whenever we needed to charge we didn t do Tesla s recommended charge enough to reach next destination we almost always charged up to 90-95% during the day and 100% in the evening to prepare for the next day s travel. I reckon that s actually a better strategy if you go on a long road trip it allows to have sudden changes in your route to visit something that isn t necessarily on the way planned. Overall there wasn t any issues with locations of Superchargers except for the one lacking around Kanab UT that would be really helpful. However there were several locations (Scottsdale Sedona Flagstaff) with multiple charging stations malfunctioning. Either the car would instantly stop charging and not provide any error message or we would get the notification that the charging port was defective. Some poor guy we met unfortunately didn t notice that and wasted 30 minutes when he got back to his car and find it was not charging. The worst case being Flagstaff with 12 charging stations but only 7-8 of them working and for some reason some worked for some cars but not others. We were lucky to always arrive before others but I ve had to swap up to 3 times before finding a working charger. Other drivers I met there reported the same issues. We overdid it on the way back from Las Vegas to Irvine which was the single longest distance but with a 3 yo in the back seat it was needed to stop every 1h30 or so anyway so we just took that opportunity to charge a bit. Probably could have done it all with just 2 Supercharger stops (technically doable with a single one but I wouldn t wanna risk that!) # Cold temperatures We averaged 275 Wh mile 171 Wh km which I find surprisingly good (my lifetime average is 263 Wh mile). But the cold definitely ate some of our range we would lose up to 10% a night in the really cold locations (Sedona Flagstaff and Zion). # Snow chains Amazon was unable to deliver on time the snow chains that should have been much easier to install... (my fault I should have ordered them weeks ago). All I had were Laclede cable chains which are a giant pain in the ass to put on but even more so on a RWD Model 3. The gap between the tire and fender is ridiculously small. I m an average height man and I could not jam my arm between the gap to properly attach the read locks on those chains. I tried pressing so hard I ve got two bruises on my left arm -\_- Without the help of a good Samaritan in Flagstaff that saw me struggle for 10+ minutes I d never would have been able to put them on properly and would have had to cancel one of our pre-paid visits (Lowell Observatory awesome place!). For context this is what Flagstaff [looked liked](https: imgur.com RDrgM96.jpg) the morning after we arrived (my car is hidden behind that center tree on the 2nd row of cars). Definitely going to be getting some proper snow chains for our next trip to Mammoth! # Trunk Frunk Really thankful for the frunk and the hole in the trunk. Without them we d have had trouble carrying everything honestly. We were 4 on the trip (wife mother in law 3yo and myself) 2 medium size luggage and lots of bags for food drinks various stuff. I m not sure how we would have made this trip in our Camry without my wife and MIL being really uncomfortable with extra bags at their feet. & #x200B All in all great trip Navigate on AutoPilot drove probably 90% of the distance with me doing the driving in cities and in snowing conditions (even then AP would work mostly fine just no NoAP). Several times my wife would stay in the hotel with my kid while I would go supercharge in the evening so we d be ready the next day immediately being able to watch The Witcher while charging was awesome :D Few more pictures [here](https: imgur.com a 9c9NPV3). & #x200B EDIT: I want to point out that despite charging to 100% a few times at no point was it done when Supercharger locations were full or had people waiting for a spot! | 2019-12-31 05:07:44 | 123 | Hotels with chargers are a must on long road trips for me and I tell every hotel I stay at that the charger is why they won my business. Coming out at 100% in the morning is always worth it to me. | 2019-12-31 05:35:36 | 74 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 6,722 |
Cabin overheating protection useless for hot summer? | I m a still fairly new owner of a 2021 Model 3. Currently temperatures are rising where I live and when checking the app interior temperatures exceed 158°F (70°C) sometimes. I would really like to use COP to save the interior (leather plastics etc.) as well as the electronics but from what I see COP only works for 12 hours after leaving the car. This is not useful in case I m not driving the car for several days even just for one. Do I always have to go back to the car every single day drive some meters and then park it again in order to re-enable COP? The feature doesn t make too much sense if I understand everything correctly. Why isn t there a permanent setting that does the cooling for as long as I want or until the battery drains to 20% or maybe something I can set in the app? I appreciate any kind of help. Best regards! Oh and: Besides this it s the best car I have ever driven. I m really glad I bought it. | 2021-05-10 12:20:16 | 17 | I have an 4 18 production 3 and I live in Phoenix. I turned off over heat protection years ago. I d lose more range in the parking lot that I would on my commute. I hit the AC on the way out of my office and it s fine by the time I get there. The thing is all the cars in the parking lot are hot. The only reason some Tesla owners freak out is because we know what the temperature is inside the car. | 2021-05-10 13:29:27 | 56 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 3,300 |
Tesla autopilot questions guesses? | Any thoughts on how the autopilot system handles debris in the road? I know it keeps you within the lanes and slows speeds up accordingly but if there is a tire in the road will the car swerve to avoid it if the next lane is open? Do we know if the current autopilot hardware is sufficient for full self-driving capabilities? I m curious if you have the hardware now will a future software update be enough to unlock full self-driving mode? Or are there hardware changes that would need to take place? I m not sure if these issues have been discussed before or addressed directly by Tesla Elon. Thanks! | 2015-08-29 00:27:44 | 11 | > Any thoughts on how the autopilot system handles debris in the road? I know it keeps you within the lanes and slows speeds up accordingly but if there is a tire in the road will the car swerve to avoid it if the next lane is open? The car will slow down to a stop if the debris is large enough to be detected as a incoming collision. The system should also give an audible warning until the driver takes the wheel as it will also do if it is confused as to where the lines on the road are. The car will not swerve automatically only brake. The only time it will change lanes autonomously is when the driver hits the turn signal in Autopilot mode. > Do we know if the current autopilot hardware is sufficient for full self-driving capabilities? It doesn t. We need far more better cameras sensors and processing hardware. | 2015-08-29 02:01:36 | 4 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 19,694 |
Wifi issue | So I m official a proud owner of a 75d as of day! However when I go home I noticed it wouldn t hook up to my personal wifi network ? It showed wifi networks at the service center but won t pick up mine ? Advice ? Please Edit: works now ! Thanks everyone | 2017-06-01 02:25:40 | 8 | What is the model number of your router? Is it broadcasting 5ghz and 2ghz? | 2017-06-01 02:30:28 | 5 | Car Software Update Connectivity | 23,605 |
How often have you needed to reboot the Atom Ryzen onboard system? | Hi all After buggering around for quite a while in an attempt to connect to a known-good WiFi network to download a software update (and experiencing no success) I decided to channel The IT Crowd and try turning it off and on again. To my disgust this sorted the issue. Have others experienced this issue? Have others had other reasons to give their car the automotive version of Control+Alt+Delete? For those interested this involved a January 2022-built Model S Long Range. Thanks to all who reply. :-) | 2022-01-29 05:28:04 | 5 | Spotify has been the reason for my most recent reboots. It just won t play sometimes. I just get the spinning circle when tapping a podcast or a playlist. I know I m getting data because voice reco works and traffic data is live. I try switching to streaming or tune-in and switch back sometimes that works. Other times I have to do the soft reboot (hold down both steering wheel scroll wheels) to get Spotify to work. Edit: I should clarify I don t have the Ryzen processor. My 3 was made in 2019. | 2022-01-29 13:57:31 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,519 |
Reminder for New Model 3 Owners: Check over your Model 3 upon delivery using the checklist which is tailored to Model 3. It could potentially save you from driving off the lot with a huge problem. Cheers to all of the new Model 3 owners! | The checklist is located in the side bar on desktop or on mobile search for Model 3 Checklist. Feel free to make a copy in your own Google Drive and add anything you think should be checked at delivery. Above all enjoy your new Model 3! | 2018-07-01 02:37:03 | 77 | I feel like these lists need to be updated to remove items as Tesla fixes them. Going over a check list to look for things that may have only affected a handful of people completely ruins the delivery experience. Just look for the major things do the full tour even if you know everything already and get ready to drive one of the best most advanced cars in the world. If you find something after delivery don t fret. Just let Tesla know ASAP and they will get it fixed. | 2018-07-01 12:16:20 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,380 |
LTE question regarding Model S | My model s should be delivered today! Here s the thing though... I live out in a suburb of Bumfuck Nowhere... it s like 25 minutes away from places you d consider Way the fuck out there. I m a 10 minute drive before you can make a cell phone call a bit longer before you get a reliable data connection. To compound this the absolute best internet available at my house is 1mb s DSL that routinely delivers sub-300kb speeds. So... how much of my car is going to be bricked while driving between the Whistlestop and the Banjo store? Oh followup question... my wife has an iphone because she goes out into society more than i do... i just have an ipad mini... can i tether my ipad to the car s LTE connection when i m in town? | 2016-07-28 14:15:18 | 28 | No to tethering that I m aware of. | 2016-07-28 14:30:47 | 6 | Car Software Update Connectivity | 10,682 |
Ok I give up! How do you enable Gapless playback in Spotify? | So according to the release notes for 2020.44.15 Spotify should have gapless playback however I can t seem to find the setting that turns this on in the car. Has anyone gotten this to work and if so how? If it makes any difference: I have a 2018 Model X with MCU 2 and I m located in Canada with a premium Spotify subscription and data plan. | 2020-11-20 23:40:20 | 29 | It works for me. Test Tool Parabol and Parabola Make sure gap less is on in Spotify app. | 2020-11-21 00:00:26 | 15 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 14,295 |
We should build a nice spreadsheet showing the specific auto capabilities between the Tesla and other manufacturers. Clearly there is some confusion. | Many others don t realize that the OTA updates and learning will make the entire Fleet better which other vehicles don t do. Also other vehicles do not automatically continue on after the vehicle has stopped and other vehicles require you touch the steering wheel after a set time. We need this to share with the uninformed! | 2015-10-15 20:01:04 | 25 | [From car and driver](http: blog.caranddriver.com elon-take-the-wheel-we-test-teslas-new-autopilot-feature ) > Tesla s Autopilot ventures beyond the Mercedes-Benz S-class Intelligent Drive in three areas: it will control your direction of travel for miles on end versus the Benz s 11 seconds with no hand contact on the steering wheel it executes lane changes on command and it provides automatic parallel parking when conditions permit. [From MotorTrend](http: www.motortrend.com features let_elon_drive_tesla_autopilot_first_test ) > The biggest difference is how well the tech is integrated into the car and how hands-free it really is. As mentioned Lane Keep Assist (LKA) systems from Honda Mercedes Chevy and other companies will shut off if your hand is off the wheel for more than a handful of seconds as a sort-of dead man s switch. Though Tesla says you shouldn t take your hands off the wheel the system will happily drive miles upon miles with the driver not touching the wheel. The passing feature is another way the Tesla is differentiated from the others as no other manufacturer currently offers that. Tesla is the only company that has a networked fleet that continuously improves its driving capabilities. So you don t have to buy the next car model for updated driver assistance. | 2015-10-15 21:54:08 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,338 |
Looking at First Tesla! Help with charging! | Hi Guys Looking into getting a Tesla Model 3 or used Model S however just moved into a new build house which is a mid terrace (live in the UK) with no garage space or outside plugs although could install one. Has anyone got experience of this? Really don t want to run a cable out the window. Thanks in advance! | 2019-05-03 13:53:03 | 17 | if you can install an outside plug you really should... you do not want to rely on public chargers exclusively (i mean you can but you won t like it) | 2019-05-03 14:00:23 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 10,998 |
Model S Test Drive Today: What to Expect? | Hello fellow enthusiasts Test driving the Model S this afternoon. Wondering what to expect. From anyone who has gone in for a formal test drive appointment what usually happens? Thanks! | 2013-11-18 13:17:21 | 21 | The things that take a while to get use to are: 1) CAREFUL IN PARKING LOTS. It s like you re invisible. No one can hear your car and they ll step right out in front of you. 2) There is no real concept of starting the car. It s sort of always on. Likewise you don t really turn it off. You put it in park and step out. 3) Regenerative breaking feels like you re driving a manual transmission car in 3rd gear when you let off the gas 4) There is a setting so the car doesn t lurch forward from the stopped position when you let off the break at a stop light. It s cool 5) There is NO hesitation when you floor it. No turbo-lurch no down-shift pause. You take off like a damn jet immediately. You ll love it. 6) It s pretty damn cool cruising at highway speeds with no sound other than the wind. Those were my experiences. This car is way out of my price range after buying a house a car and having a kid in day care. But it s an experience worth having whether you can afford it or not. You re going to want a Tesla after driving one. Anyone who talks trash about a Tesla has clearly never stepped foot in one. | 2013-11-18 14:17:36 | 19 | Tesla test drive experiences | 12,600 |
Silver Model 3 spotted in King of Prussia! | My wife and myself are both reservation holders for the Model 3 and she just gave me a frantic call saying she saw one by the KOP mall in Pennsylvania. She was unable to get any pics as she drove passed it at a light and it was going the opposite direction. She s not a gearhead or anything but we both love Tesla s cars and I highly doubt she would misidentify it considering she sees several Model S every day and To clarify KOP Mall is the largest mall in the country and the whole Main Line Philly area is *extremely* affluent. There is a large Tesla dealership in Devon as well as a showroom in the KOP Mall itself. I m not sure if this vehicle is owned by someone locally or not but it s safe to say I m about to call the dealership and see if they have one in stock now to look at. Edit: Called Tesla Devon and they did not deliver a Silver one but they did deliver a Blue Model 3. So there is at least one living around Philly right now. | 2017-12-04 17:43:39 | 19 | YES YES YES!!! I can t wait to see one in person. Did your wife indicate if the license plate was the CA Dealers license plate or a PA license plate? Are you current owners? Were you line waiters on 3 31? A buddy of mine swears he has seen several around Blue Bell. I said *pics or it didn t happen* and there have yet to be pics. BTW the KOP Mall is the largest mall in the country measured by retail space. The Mall of America is larger in terms of indoor space but much of their indoor space is a hotel and amusement park. | 2017-12-04 18:07:48 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,216 |
MCU2 vs MCU1 | I have a late 2017 MCU1 vehicle and just got the opportunity to play with an MCU2 vehicle today and WOW. MCU1 is running through mud compared to MCU2. MCU2 seems to be at least twice as fast in all regards. I certainly hope the MCU2 retrofit comes out soon. That will make my car feel brand new again! | 2020-02-12 15:06:16 | 38 | I did the nav destination delete thing and now my MCU1 feels new again. | 2020-02-12 15:49:45 | 28 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 11,271 |
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Tesla has dropped the price of Standard Range Model 3 in China | The standard range model 3 in Mainland China has changed from 250 900RMB (\~39k USD) to 235 900RMB (\~36.5k USD) - a drop of about $2 325 USD. Estimated delivery has increased from 1 to 3 weeks to 4 to 6 weeks. [https: www.tesla.cn model3 design#overview](https: www.tesla.cn model3 design#overview) This price drop makes sense as it not only helps Tesla compete against local manufacturers but also helps distinguish the standard Y and standard 3. The standard range Y starts at 276 000RMB (\~43k USD). Personally I m a bit upset as we just picked up a new standard range 3 on Monday at the old higher price. | 2021-07-30 06:01:37 | 174 | > Personally I m a bit upset as we just picked up a new standard range 3 on Monday at the old higher price. could be worse id say given that being able to afford a model 3 means you must be part of the top 5% income earners in China. | 2021-07-30 09:49:39 | 63 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,846 |
Has anyone tried trans-Canadian on the V3 Supercharger network? | I m surprised that an adventuring person hasn t blazed the V3 trail across Canada yet. I m super excited to see what a Model 3 LR can do on a true cross country trip with the new V3 Superchargers. Based on my v2.5 (150kW) experiences V3 should be downright insane. I barely wait much beyond bathroom breaks as it is. | 2020-01-09 23:10:51 | 69 | I think a couple guys from BC were going to try it over the holidays but they made it to Ontario and turned around. Just think they ran out of time. | 2020-01-09 23:20:32 | 21 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 7,643 |
Renting advice - AP1 vs AP2 | I am going to be renting a car later in this month and have the opportunity to choose between cars with AP1 and AP2. Has AP2 caught up surpassed AP1 yet? Are there other benefits of choosing the newer cars? What would be your recommendation? I would only be renting for a short period nothing long term so no need to consider potential future software updates. Thanks! | 2017-09-14 12:24:50 | 8 | For AP features choose AP1. AP2 is not completely there but it s very very close. For interior choose AP2. I had an AP1 car as a loaner recently and boy was I disappointed with the interior! It is subjective so you may not care but just putting it out there. | 2017-09-14 12:36:43 | 11 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 16,438 |
Opinion - Tesla should drop the 1k surcharge for activating auto pilot after delivery until a year of ownership | Like many of you I m trying to convince myself and more importantly my wife that the LR Model 3 is worth it. However there s a bit of sticker shock when adding the the 5k auto pilot option. I don t like the idea of paying an extra 1k later on for a feature I know I will enable. So I think they should let you upgrade within a year of delivery at it s normal price. It may make it a little easier to upsell to LR if the consumer didn t have to worry about that cost at the same time. | 2018-02-08 20:11:01 | 261 | I would be in favor of something like this. But doubt they ll do it. I would be ok with a 1 month free then it gets locked. If you buy within the first month then there is no surcharge. | 2018-02-08 20:12:41 | 77 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 14,422 |
Tesla handicap hand controls | Hello my friend Elvin is disabled and after waiting over a year for his 2022 Tesla Refresh Model X he can t drive it. As a paraplegic he has always been able to use hand controls to drive his vehicles. When he received his car last week he discovered that he s unable to connect his electronic hand controls. I went to the Tesla service center and was told that there s nothing at the moment to connect anything 12 volt which is needed for him to safely operate a vehicle. What should I do next? | 2022-08-28 01:31:47 | 38 | Hey there. I don t know what kind of hand controls your friend is using but I ll tell you about the hand controls I use for my Model Y. It s really changed my life for the better. Here s a link to the product website (Kempf Darios Ring + Hand Brake). https: kempf-usa.com Handcontrols_description.html I m going to guess if your friend is rolling in a Model X he may be able to afford the setup I have (~$10k). In my opinion the integration and independence are well worth it. On the down side I had to ship my car to Florida for the technicians to install it (two weeks total included in the price). But it allows me to drive *with both hands on the wheel*. I can t overstate how useful this is. Take for example the push-rock system I had installed on my previous car (also an EV): https: www.suregrip-handcontrols.com pushrock It has an electronic control for the accelerator tucked behind the knee bolster and it felt sturdy. Though I had to use that one with a steering knob which made it challenging to do simple things safely while driving (e.g. flipping down the sunshade rolling down a power window etc.). Although I could get from point A to point B on my own it wasn t ideal. I also used a set of removable hand controls (and steering knob) when using other people s vehicles or rentals (Quic Stick Portable Hand Controls): https: www.quicstick.com products natural-aluminum That s on rare occasions but it s there if I need it. I ll end with this: the Darios Ring setup is *perfect* for the Tesla because of three things: 1) one-pedal driving 2) hold mode and 3) chill mode. Those three things combined make it possible for me to drive my Model Y by mostly using the ring and only reaching for the hand brake if someone does something ridiculous in front of me. This is a throw-away account. PM me within 2 hours if you need more details. Good luck to your friend. | 2022-08-28 03:54:57 | 119 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,835 |
What happens if Musk dies? | I m sure this would affect Tesla s future greatly along with SpaceX. Solar City probably will be the least affected. I sure hope he has contingency plans for Tesla and SpaceX in case the unfortunate happens god forbids. Who is qualified to take over his role in both companies? Just curious. | 2014-09-17 19:58:56 | 11 | He would come back 3 days later... More seriously I just discussed Musk s possible departure as CEO with another user: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 2glwie how_do_you_think_spacexs_newly_awarded_nasa ckkz1ti > I m not too worried about that. The most likely scenario is that Musk will step down as CEO when Tesla will reach the last milestones for Musk s compensation plan an annual production of 300 000 cars the first production Model 3 and a valuation of $43 bilion. I think all of this should be done by 2018. Musk will stay as Chairman and will have a lot of control over the company with about 25% of the shares. JB Straubel will probably be elected as CEO. He is a bit younger than Musk. He s also an engineer (one of Tesla s first employee) and he shares a very similar vision of EVs with Musk. He is extremely battery focused which fits with Tesla s new position as a potential massive battery manufacturer. I think Tesla s future is bright with or without Musk as CEO. I want him to stick around as Chairman though but I kind of want him to focus more of his time on Spacex. I want reusable rockets already! | 2014-09-17 20:03:12 | 34 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 22,689 |
Is the UX processor new for the 3? | I would have bet the farm that tesla would have swapped out the tegra 3 for the 3 and carried the changes over to the s x... But I ve heard nothing about what s in the 3. Do we have any concrete info on this? | 2017-08-02 00:15:30 | 6 | I haven t heard a thing but the display looked very snappy in the driving videos even when swapping back and forth to the map screen. Based on that I d actually be surprised if it s still the Tegra 3. | 2017-08-02 00:21:20 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,093 |
An apology | As time goes on I feel really embarrassed for a post I made last week. It definitely wasn t warranted and not representative of my attempts to make meaningful contributions to this subreddit. I ve been an advocate of Tesla of AP2 and a two-time repeat customer over a short period of time. But last week I guess my patience snapped and emotions got the better of me. I started connecting dots that didn t exist and came up with a nonsense and disrespectful conspiracy theory. For that I m truly sorry. I truly do look forward to future software updates and hearing about what s coming down the pipeline. I need to figure out how to better contain my anticipation and excitement without lashing out at those bearing news. | 2017-10-18 06:21:41 | 38 | As an official ambassador of r teslamotors I hereby accept your apology and would also like to say that you are being entirely too hard on yourself. We still love you. | 2017-10-18 06:48:16 | 47 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 1,481 |
Deals on inventory demo vehicles seem to have dried up | I called local Tesla store today and inquired about any deals for demo inventory vehicles (Performance Model 3). He checked and couldn t find anything significant (best was $400 off) within 500 miles (any further than that and they charge 2x the destination fee). I asked him to check beyond 500 miles and he couldn t find any better deal than that nationwide. He mentioned that the reason for the lack of inventory deals is that when the change to AP being included standard happened folks snapped up any of the available discounted vehicles. He noted my name and number and said he would give me a call if anything popped up later. | 2019-04-17 18:21:42 | 29 | They ll be back next quarter end. | 2019-04-17 18:23:18 | 52 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,873 |
Modify sentry mode recording times | Is there any way to modify how much sentry records when it detects an event? My car was dinged by someone when they swung their car door open. Sentry caught the event and 1 minute after which was not enough to catch a plate because they hadn t left yet. As far as I can tell when it detects an event it saves 10 minutes prior to the event. Would be nice if we could modify that to do something like 20 minutes before and 20 minutes after. I literally missed the plate by about 45 seconds (store owner sent me his surveillance video but can t read the plates from it). | 2020-03-02 01:15:22 | 14 | Or like 2 minutes before ... I have never seen anything in the 8-pre minutes of any value — agree it s would be nice to see more _after_ Right now it seems to just fire the same routine that gets triggered when you hit the “save dash cam” button ... which doesn t make much sense honestly. Different use cases | 2020-03-02 02:21:45 | 3 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 13,087 |
Questions from a day 1 reservation holder. | Hey all I m a march 31st sight-unseen reservation holder. I put down a reservation for quite a few good reasons which I still stand by so this isn t a should I get the car post. I just have a few questions about what to expect and I m hoping some current Tesla owners can give me some insight. 1.) Maintenance: one of the biggest reasons I m getting this car is that I believe it will save me money on maintenance in the long run (I plan on having this car a very long time). But it was recently brought to my attention that Tesla doesn t really let you do any maintenance yourself (I.e no spare tire must get towed to a service center). Doesn t that get expensive in the fewer instances when you do need maintenance? Do you still feel like you save in the long run? 2.) Glass: I live in California and yesterday the high was 108 degrees F. I feel like the glass roof would turn my model 3 into an oven when parked. Do any of you have the model S with a glass roof and if so how does it fair in hot weather? 3.) Did anything about your new Tesla surprise you? As in did you discover after delivery that there were any factors you overlooked that you wish you had thought of before buying the car? 4.) Are there any unforeseen expenses that you discovered after purchase? I love the Model 3 so far and am very excited to own one and support the transition to clean energy. That said I am stretching my budget a little to afford this and just want to make sure something doesn t surprise me last minute! Thank you all in advance for to input! | 2017-06-19 20:34:42 | 16 | 1. Not super qualified to answer - so far I ve only had one annual service at $600 which was less expensive than annual service for the Mercedes I had before. The Model 3 will likely be (much?) less than $600 for the annual service but they haven t said yet. 2. I live in CA as well and drove around yesterday in my X with the giant windshield and mostly glass over the top of the vehicle. The heat problem is absolutely manageable...if you re parking outside somewhere you can use the app to cool it down before you get to it without significant range loss. 3. My X was pretty much exactly what I expected including some build issues because it was a fairly early production model. Any surprises were pleasant ones (like oh! the auto-presenting door is actually useful after all! ). 4. One unforeseen expense: I live in a 50+ year old house and I had to have a subpanel replaced in order to have a NEMA 14 50 outlet installed in the garage to charge. This added something like $2K to the cost of adding the outlet over what it would have cost if the electrician could have added it to the existing subpanel - but on the bright side I have a new and better subpanel. | 2017-06-19 21:34:00 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,002 |
How To Guide: fast wireless phone charging in a Model 3 using the 12V w o cutting or drilling | This came up in another post about the Jeda wireless charging pad putting out low power. The Model 3 s front USB ports only output 7W or so according to [this video from LivingTesla](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=BVEcIWjT2hI). If you re using a USB hub for your TeslaCam and or music this power will be split even further and wireless charging isn t the most efficient to begin with. So slow charging speeds aren t a surprise. This could also be the reason some people get errors with their TeslaCam footage not saving correctly. To many things pulling to much power but that s just me speculating. In their [FAQ](https: getjeda.com faq ) Jeda says their wireless charger is capable of doing 15W but you need to use a QC 3.0 adapter from the 12V in the center console to do so. When you email for instructions they ll send you to [this YouTube clip](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=73KdINPQCgI). While I found it helpful it requires drilling and I wanted to avoid that if at all possible. So instead I took my center console apart and found a way to do fast wireless charging without any permanent modifications to my car. Hopefully someone else will find this helpful. **Parts:** * [Anker 39W QC3.0 dual USB adapter ](https: www.amazon.com gp product B01K9MQ8WW ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8& psc=1) * [Anker Powerline+ braided 6ft USB cables](https: www.amazon.com gp product B019Q5PXX8 ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8& psc=1) * [Bestek 12V cigarette lighter extension cord](https: www.amazon.com gp product B07JZBX2G5 ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8& psc=1) * [Auto trim removal tool kit](https: www.amazon.com gp product B01L8GHB7O ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8& psc=1) **Step 1:** Remove the trim pieces on both sides of the center console. Start at the back and pull up from the bottom edge. This is very easy once you get it started. Next remove the metal brackets which are held in with Torx-20 bolts. I had to wiggle the end where it attaches at the dash to get it to let go. **Step 2:** Easily the worst part. Remove the trim piece around the cup holders. This is where the trim removal kit comes in. I found a few posts of people who broke this piece trying to pull it off with their hands. The back two clips aren t bad but the three in front are ridiculously tight. Use a pry bar to get the corner clips first and then work on the center which isn t as close to the edge as the others. Once this is off you can unclip the 12V and key card reader. **Step 3:** Remove the charger door ~~and tray~~. There is a screw holding the door in pace on the driver s side which will be visible once you take the trim pieces off in step 1. There will also be a white plastic piece you ll want to remove as well so it doesn t get lost. ~~The tray itself will also require the pry bar. There are three clips along the top and two at the bottom. You have to start from the top and use your pry tools gently. It will feel like you re going to break it so go slow and take your time.~~ *Edit: someone confirmed that they ran their USB cables without taking the tray out. Save yourself the trouble.* Thankfully all the hard parts are done now! Once everything is disassembled it will look something [like this](https: i.imgur.com MJdCnwG.jpg). **Step 4:** Run your cables. Starting from the center console your cables will run through a gap under the cup holders ([finished look here](https: i.imgur.com HgYo7Qw.jpg)) out a [small hole on the driver s side](https: i.imgur.com B8lOFoz.jpg) in front of the cup holder along the trim panel avoiding the lid mechanisms (sorry I didn t get a pic of this) and out a small space that s only visible when you take the lid out. Here are my cables [roughly in place](https: i.imgur.com Irp8AJV.jpg) and a close up of where the cables go [when the tray is back in](https: i.imgur.com zUXkMDJ.jpg). ~~To be honest I don t think taking the phone tray out was actually necessary but it s been a few months and I don t remember. There might not have been enough clearance if you just lifted it up. If you use this guide let me know and I ll update it.~~ **Step 5:** Use your phone tray to figure how long your cables actually need to be and store the excess in the square-ish hole under the cup holders. Next I took the portion of the USB cables that run along the side trim and wrapped them in electrical tape. It made it easier to get them to stay where I wanted and I was slightly concerned about them fraying if they lid mechanisms rubbed too much. Again sorry I didn t get a photo of the finished version from this angle. **Step 6:** Put everything back together and you re good to go. While you can plug the adapter and USB cables directly into the stock 12V it gets pushed down by the storage tray. It still worked but I didn t like the extreme angle and assumed it would come unplugged over time. Not a big deal but annoying and that s why I added the extension. Here s [what that looks like put together](https: i.imgur.com NMIUWYl.jpg). If I did anything differently I would have used black cables instead of gray. That small corner of my phone tray is the only part where this install is visible and black would have blended in much better. My final setup is phones charging exclusively off my 12V. Jeda USB hub uses my stock ports. SSD is hidden inside while a dummy thumb drive uses an external port just in case a thief breaks in and knows something about Teslas. The other port is open so my nephews can use a controller to play games. A few notes: Some older phones can only do 5W wireless charging so this might not make a difference for you. Newer phones are getting to 10 and 15W wireless charging and I m sure it will keep going up. You also need to make sure your wireless pad can do 10 or 15W. There s also a way to get fast wireless charging using a battery bank with pass through charging. [LivingTesla](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=WEzhIFmYQJE) has you covered there as well. I just prefer the cleaner look this setup gives. I ll send Jeda a link to this post and hopefully they ll include it in their FAQ. Questions? Comments? Off the wall remarks? | 2019-11-19 18:55:14 | 119 | That s freaky. I was just looking all over the place last night trying to figure out how I could do this without drilling or cutting pieces out and here you are with this tutorial using the same parts I put into my amazon cart. I ll have to give this a try sometime soon. | 2019-11-19 20:31:14 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,038 |
Model 3 reservation different buyer question | Hi All I searched the Reddit and did not find anything about this. My boss is a current tesla owner and made 2 reservation for the model 3. He offered to let me use one of his reservation. My question is if that was allowed and if I would get the tax credit. Thanks! | 2016-05-22 18:02:18 | 8 | No it s not allowed to just move the reservation. However he could buy the car and then sell it to you the next day | 2016-05-22 18:15:50 | 13 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 12,342 |
Tesla cancels if you have more than 2 Model 3 reservations | I just received this email: > We appreciate your support and excitement for Model 3. Thank you for making a reservation. > There is a limit of two Model 3 reservations per customer. We are reaching out today because you have exceeded that limit. Your additional reservations will be cancelled and you should see the refund on your credit card statement within 7 days* https: i.imgur.com a06TMhq.png I had ordered 2 cars in the store on March 31 and 2 on April 1 online | 2016-05-04 06:17:34 | 7 | this limit was made known on day one. no surprise they cancelled those who tried to fool the system. | 2016-05-04 06:26:09 | 26 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 19,719 |
Welp Time to Test Out Tesla Insurance | Changed to Tesla last month after rates went way up with past carrier. We just had first rain in a while here in SoCal and of course someone slides right into the back of me on the freeway. Car held up well. Probably will have to replace bumper and trunk but it s totally drivable until parts arrive. Will let y all know how Tesla does with the claim. EDIT: in the middle of the claims process. Will make new post and update this one with link once it is all done. Dropping car off on Dec. 18th. Likely to be in shop at least a month or two. Short update so far is that Tesla is handling the claim with no problems so far. EDIT 2: Dropped off the car at the Tesla body shop today. See new post for review. https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments ecltse tesla_insurance_claim_review ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x | 2019-11-20 16:17:55 | 312 | Shouldn t this be a claim on the other party s insurance? Do you need to involve your insurance at all? (I thought that was how it worked but maybe I m confused...) | 2019-11-20 16:57:52 | 128 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 22,400 |
Told to wait on FSD | Hey all did a test drive recently and hit it off with the Tesla associate. He was a great guy and I purchased a Model Y Performance. I was strongly considering adding FSD to it but he told me to wait until after I purchased it. He said he couldn t get into details why but to trust him. He said I could do some research and probably figure it out. I have tried looking around but can t seem to find anything. Anyone know why? I m just slightly concerned because I d rather have the $10k built into the 6 year loan rather than having to fork it over at once. Thanks | 2021-09-04 00:24:19 | 13 | In my state the registration fee is based on the purchase price of the car. It s not insignificant but getting loan and not pay that 10k out right is probably easier to handle in your case. | 2021-09-05 10:42:35 | 20 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 21,310 |
EV charging in the US national parks? | I just skimmed this old article and wondered what Tesla owner experiences are like when visiting our National Parks more recently? http: www.csmonitor.com Business In-Gear 2014 0317 Planning-a-Tesla-road-trip-Avoid-national-parks About a month ago I was in Big Bend NP and was a little surprised to see a Tesla there. Gasoline is even in rare supply *way down there*. RV hookups are likely the only way to charge an EV if you can get the car from Ft Stockton to the park. | 2017-05-08 18:37:20 | 14 | It would be great if Tesla could partner with the National Park Service to offer destination chargers at all National Parks. They are often in remote areas and it s not uncommon to do a decent bit of driving around in the park once you get there. | 2017-05-08 18:50:46 | 14 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 5,797 |
Minnesota increasing EV surcharge to highest in nation $250 (With $125 fee on Hybrids) | A Minnesota lawmaker (Sen. Jeff Howe R-Rockville MN ) is proposing increasing the state EV registration surcharge from $75 to $250 which would make it the highest such fee in the US. He is also proposing a $125 registration fee for Hybrids. Which is crazy because they burn gas exclusively. [https: blogs.mprnews.org capitol-view 2019 02 mn-lawmaker-wants-electric-cars-drivers-to-pay-higher-fees ](https: blogs.mprnews.org capitol-view 2019 02 mn-lawmaker-wants-electric-cars-drivers-to-pay-higher-fees ) As a Tesla Toyota Prius owner this infuriates me. I already pay thousands per year to register my EVs so I m certainly paying my fair share . For my fellow Tesla owners in Minnesota please call your representatives and give them the facts. We aren t freeloaders we already pay our fair share. This is just so backwards in so many ways. & #x200B Edit: To clarify why this is a bad deal: 1. It s arbitrary it charges EV owners the equivalent of 26223 miles of driving per year in a 30 MPG car. I drive 10k miles a year. (I d prefer a tax based on miles driven) 2. EVs Tesla s in particular are considerably more expensive so we pay higher sales tax and registration fees (which are based on car value in MN). 3. There s no revenue shortfall coming from EV owners nor will taxing the 1-2% of cars solve any real budget issues. 4. We should be encouraging EV adoption not rushing to stifle it! They are a very small % of cars on the road but politicians are rushing to new taxes. This is also at a time when gas prices are at historic lows. 5. For christ sakes the same bill proposes an extra fee on gas powered hybrids. Because well they are more efficient. These seems quite backwardian. | 2019-02-21 00:26:07 | 81 | Title is misleading since this is only a proposal. However this doesn t seem helpful to promoting EVs and lowering pollution where other states are giving tax breaks to EV purchases. | 2019-02-21 00:29:45 | 26 | EV Tax Credit Information | 11,485 |
Do any insurers help with battery replacement? | Heard talk of ppl switching auto policies bcos of that in tesla forums | 2013-10-02 18:16:40 | 6 | Honestly batteries are normal wear-and-tear consumables. Like belts tires and oil on an ICE car. It would wiser to simply put the replacement close into your personal finance NPV calculation of Tesla vs. conventional ICE. | 2013-10-02 22:58:08 | 2 | Tesla insurance pricing comparison | 5,232 |
Trick to open charging port | Hey. The charging port doesn t seem to open with a single push of the button on the charger. Does it make a difference if the car is locked or not. Or doors open or not? Should I hold the button? Or just push? Any tips? Thanks for all the responses! It s an x | 2017-09-03 17:05:00 | 18 | Is your car a Model X? With Model X the button on the umc charge cable will only open the port if the key is nearby or the vehicle is unlocked. On Model S the button always triggers the flap regardless of lock state. | 2017-09-03 20:22:28 | 16 | Tesla charging port locking | 21,467 |
Finding out if a used vehicle has FSD EAP | Hey there! So I ve been looking through some used Tesla s both on Tesla s website and third party places. On third party sites I see some cars have photos of the auto pilot setting screen with and without the FSD Visualization option. However I only see autopilot not FSD showing on the software screen. Does the ones with the visualization setting mean it has EAP? This link is for a photo visualization with the setting: https: www.carvana.com vehicle 1709160 This does not have the setting: https: www.carvana.com vehicle 1730218 | 2021-03-26 05:17:47 | 43 | Basic AutoPilot on all new Teslas allows you to select full visualization of traffic signals stop signs traffic around you traffic cones and the like just as the FSD users have. The difference is that they paid $10k to allow their cars to actually react to those objects to control the movement of the car. I don t have FSD but I do have the full hardware complement to support FSD on my new Tesla just as every new Tesla has. I think they did this because it s just cheaper to install the same hardware in every car and that it may encourage some many users to sign up for FSD subscription when it s available to try it out. | 2021-03-26 07:33:03 | 19 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 6,645 |
Preparing before buying... | Just wanted to see if I could get a quick consensus as I start to think about possibly buying a 3 Y next year. What do I need to do to my home garage to prepare? Is a Powerwall absolutely necessary? I have a ~40 mile day commute and our SUV will be used for long road trips. Any advice is appreciated. | 2020-07-11 17:44:44 | 11 | > our SUV will be used for long toad trips. Sure it will ) | 2020-07-11 20:31:30 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,534 |
Does anyone use NG to power their home charger? 🤔 | I was wondering does anyone make a residential generator that is connected to your residential gas line that can charge a Tesla model 3? I want to have that option but Generac said that s not an application their standby equipment is designed for. Why can t you just have a smart switch in line with it to tell the standby generator your power is off from time a to time b? I am about to have to up my electric service hardware from 100 amp to 200 amp at an additional cost of $4000 min so a generator like that should be available for less. I plan on getting a standard Nepa 14-50 connection. I can t find alternate low cost options and the Tesla PW is a cost-prohibitive partial solution from what I ve seen online. I have a model 3 and live in an older neighborhood so sound constraints would apply or such a generator would have to be housed in a shed at added cost. Clearly I m not an electrician. What experience with non-home or superchargers (etc) do you have charging model 3 s? Any ideas? I ve seen the portable generators trying to charge EVs but they take .over a day which is not what I mean. I am looking for daily solutions that would work for a person with a 90 mile min commute. Thanks | 2019-11-27 11:16:51 | 6 | Another solution would be to charge at whatever rate is leftover on your current service. Just get a plug put in and charge at 40 amps or 30 or even 20. 90 miles with 5KW(20Amp x 240V) should charge overnight just fine. | 2019-11-27 15:52:46 | 11 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 5,490 |
5000 miles supercharging expired after 6 months ? | The new referral incentive says 5000 miles of supercharging. I contacted support and they said it expires after 6 months! Is this true? Does anybody actually use 5000 miles in a year? Forget 6 months. I thought it was for the life of the car or maybe a few years...but 6 months is crazy. | 2019-05-06 23:13:11 | 20 | Tesla is being a little stingy. I haven t driven 5k miles total and I ve owned the car for 7 months lol. Their goal is to get you to not use up all the miles obviously. | 2019-05-06 23:16:18 | 18 | Tesla Referral Program Issues | 768 |
Tesla Car Rental Options | I wish there were more options when it came to renting a Tesla for a few days weeks. I m looking to do a one way trip from Denver to Central Florida in a tesla rental but cannot find any way to do it. I looked at the rental car agencies but none have a Tesla in Denver in their luxury line. Any owner would want me to return it to the pick-up point. Any ideas? | 2016-08-07 17:16:26 | 31 | Buy one in Denver and sell it in Florida. (seriously probably your only option). | 2016-08-07 17:57:28 | 27 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,449 |
Why so few Model S performance enhancements? (Hardware not Software) | I am not talking about software mods just basic things like better wheels better tires lighter windows lighter seats stripped interiors etc (body kits are nifty but they are not going to do significantly better than stock). The Model S is one of the trendiest cars out there when it comes to promoting custom paint custom wraps custom sound systems and the like but has seen limited action when it comes to making it go fast. Why is this and are there people with tricked out Model S dragsters lurking around? I am speccing out some upgrades to my P85D and it seems like there are significant gains to be made with hardly any effort. | 2015-07-26 01:12:32 | 20 | Well there isn t much crossover between the modding crowd and the upper middle-class environmentally conscious crowd that can afford a Model S. | 2015-07-26 02:12:16 | 23 | Tesla Model Comparison | 23,570 |
Got a ticket for not having plates :( | So I was on my way to the bank when I got pulled over. The cop asked me w bunch of questions about where I bought the car and why I didn t have plates or dealer plates. I showed them the temporary sticker on my window and told then that it was a temporary registration because I had just picked up the car but he said that the sticker wasn t sufficient for the state of Texas and said to call the dealership I bought it from | 2016-07-06 23:47:17 | 26 | Was surprised and then... > wasn t sufficient for the state of Texas and said to call the dealership I bought it from No longer surprised. | 2016-07-06 23:57:22 | 36 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 7,311 |
Feature Request Megathread | Hey Everyone! We re going to start consolidating feature requests into a centralized thread posted every couple of weeks to better manage requests and to get good voting and discussion of specific features. If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. | 2020-11-03 14:00:17 | 38 | Use the brakes to counter the loss of regen when cold full. The user does not need to care. It s also dangerous to lift off and not have the same regen you are used to. | 2020-11-03 16:58:59 | 59 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,934 |
Theoretically would a Model S be able to drive through underwater? | I don t think there is an air intake to be worried about correct? Aside from issues with the car floating could it happen? Like if there was major flooding and you had to drive through a couple of feet of water for a short period of time could it be done? | 2014-01-08 05:45:36 | 9 | It might be possible to plug the holes and do it. It may void the warranty. And be very dangerous. It isn t designed to be a submarine so while the seals may be enough to handle torrential downpour underwater driving is probably out. All that said [you are onto something](http: www.dvice.com 2013-10-21 elon-musk-turn-james-bond-car-working-submarine) I don t think Elon has much time to spare for a pet project but apparently his plan is to make the submersible car for real in what spare time he has. | 2014-01-08 07:25:52 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,908 |
Battery Preconditioning on 40.50.1 | I noticed that after the 40.50.1 update when I turn on climate control from the app in advance of leaving my house when I walk into my garage there is a high pitched whine that definitely was not present before the update the sound reminded me of the sound when you are navigating to a supercharger and the battery is being preconditioned for max charge rate. It s cold temperatures here and the regen braking is always limited at the start of the drive but since the update and the whine the regen breaking is always fully available. This makes me think the update included battery preconditioning when turning on climate control remotely. I don t use the scheduled departure feature. Tl dr - since 40.50.1 when I turn on climate control in cold temps the same battery conditioning used for supercharging seems to be happening now so regen breaking isn t limited (maybe also so the range of the battery isn t cut as much?). | 2019-12-26 19:50:28 | 67 | as long as you re plugged in that would be an awesome feature | 2019-12-26 19:51:58 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,717 |
Apartment complex will allow me to pay for a charger install but wants a $95 mo usage payment to use it afterwards. Southern CA (P3D+ delivery tomorrow!) | Super stoked for delivery! Obviously this install is a pretty bad deal in the end but I am wondering if it is legal (in CA) for them to charge the $95 additional rate or if I would only be legally responsible for usage? The CA EV law itself states usage associated to the charger. Does anyone have experience with this? Model P3D+ delivery is tomorrow and I can charge at work so I am not totally screwed. Just curious if there s any ground to stand on here. Complex currently has no chargers so I am hoping they are just inexperienced. Seems odd that they could have me pay for the install and charger and also make me pay the inflated flat rate rather than actual usage. | 2018-11-28 01:59:18 | 54 | I suggest you just charge at work. That s what I do. I charge twice per week at work at it s been great. | 2018-11-28 02:22:27 | 46 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 2,079 |
A good debate between two users on the verge comment section about Autopilot. Warning: Text heavy. | Taken from the comment section here: [https: www.theverge.com 2019 5 17 18629214 tesla-autopilot-crash-death-josh-brown-jeremy-banner](https: www.theverge.com 2019 5 17 18629214 tesla-autopilot-crash-death-josh-brown-jeremy-banner) & #x200B Some highlights of the arguments here are in order: & #x200B > [Resiroth](https: www.theverge.com users Resiroth) > > Alternative title: and now 9 more people are alive than would have been anticipated based on the miles (> 1 billion) travelled. > > Also would note based on the Twitter thread when the semi has side skirts (which are required legally in Europe and improve safety regardless of whether you re using autopilot) there is no issue. Clearly Tesla needs to work on this but at the same time I wonder if the US could just join the rest of the civilized world in requiring side skirts. > > Here is one (of many) examples of someone without autopilot dying as a result of these poorly designed vehicles: [**https: www.currentargus.com story news crime 2018 11 02 houston-woman-dies-lea-county-fatal 1862442002 **](https: www.currentargus.com story news crime 2018 11 02 houston-woman-dies-lea-county-fatal 1862442002 ) > > So while this is an issue for autopilot it s also an issue for humans it appears. & #x200B > [OpssYourBad](https: www.theverge.com users OpssYourBad) > > This is a confused and poor argument. > > The problem isn t whether Tesla s self driving system is leading to a net gain or net loss of life but whether the loss of life is obviously preventable (or at the very least could Tesla have done more to try to prevent the loss of life). The discussion isn t whether to completely stop autonomous vehicle development (I have not seen a single person who argues that) but whether Tesla should better implement better features (that other car manufacturers implement so it s not like these features are impossible or even hard to implement) to reduce the **unnecessary loss of life**. > > > > Once again you re refusing to engage the actual argument. This isn t about who has first responsibility this is about whether the loss of life was **unnecessary** and **preventable**. > > It s the reason why seatbelts have warning systems even though it s the driver s responsibility to use the seatbelt it s the reason why Ford is getting sued for their poorly designed parking system on the Grand Cherokee it s the reason why car companies (and airplanes and anything that can cause multiple loss of life) have multiple redundancies even if the first responsibility belongs to the user. > > It s a childish argument to say We re not going to do everything we can to reduce the loss of life because the first responsibility lies with the driver . & #x200B > [Resiroth](https: www.theverge.com users Resiroth) > > There are lots of unnecessary and preventable deaths. See: all the cars that don t get 5-stars on every crash metric or are sold without AEB. We know that those cars could be designed at additional expense and yet they are still allowed to be sold despite them being more dangerous causing additional fatalities. > > Or alternatively look at literally any car that isn t a model 3: [**https: electrek-co.cdn.ampproject.org i s electrek.co wp-content uploads sites 3 2018 10 m3-nhtsa-blog-09272018-e1538965297188.jpg?resize=1292**](https: electrek-co.cdn.ampproject.org i s electrek.co wp-content uploads sites 3 2018 10 m3-nhtsa-blog-09272018-e1538965297188.jpg?resize=1292) 1000 & #x200B > [OpssYourBad](https: www.theverge.com users OpssYourBad) > > What would it cost Tesla to stop advertising their driver assist feature as Autopilot ? What would it cost for Tesla to implement a software update that stops the car slowly if driver hands are off the steering wheel? How much does the cheapest Model 3 you can actually buy cost vs the cheapest car in other automaker s line ups? > > At least try to engage the argument in good faith. & #x200B > [Resiroth](https: www.theverge.com users Resiroth) > > Well what would it take to have Audi not call it traffic jam pilot? Or Nissan to stop calling it pro pilot? > > What would it cost Nissan Audi Volvo Mercedes Lexus etc to implement a feature where it slows down after not detecting hands? > > (PS: if you fail to respond to the request fast enough to put your hands on the wheel the feature is disabled until you stop and reboot the feature) > > The cheapest model 3 is 35 400. **I don t know the cheapest Mercedes Audi Volvo bmw Maserati Porsche or Land Rover is but I would expect around the same price or quite a lot higher. Still in 2019 not a single other manufacturer has** **AEB** **on 100% of their cars while it has been standard on every Tesla sold for a couple years now.** > > **And I would argue if Tesla autopilot is resulting in a net increase in lives that s all that matters. Based on how many autopilot miles are driven every day there ought to be a fatality every month statistically and that will only increase more over time. There will be more deaths but there will be fewer deaths than if they hadn t allowed people to use the system at all.** > > I would also note that Nissan Volvo Mercedes BMW Audi and Lexus all have the exact same attention gauging feature as Tesla. Only GM s supercruise has an eye-monitoring feature which apparently has problems when operating with direct sunlight. [**https: www.autonews.com technology sun-plays-tricks-cadillacs-super-cruise**](https: www.autonews.com technology sun-plays-tricks-cadillacs-super-cruise) > > If you want to talk about reducing unnecessary life talk to the automakers that sell cars in 2019 without automatic emergency breaking. Something that comes on every Tesla sold standard. & #x200B > [OpssYourBad](https: www.theverge.com users OpssYourBad) > > And if Elon Musk enjoys watching people die he could implement an autopilot lottery that kills its occupant once in a rare moon just for fun long as autopilot is resulting in a net increase in lives because that s all that matters? > > Tesla also happens to cost much more than the other automakers cheapest models and I know it s possible to get automatic emergency braking in any car that costs as much as the base Model 3 so there s that. & #x200B > [Resiroth](https: www.theverge.com users Resiroth) > > Your questioning is like saying so you re saying just because a drug saves 9 10people and kills 1 10 it s better than nothing at all which results in 5 10 dying and 5 10 living? > > The answer is obviously yes. > > Then you go off the deep end and say well what if the doctor kills one of the patients just for fun is that a good outcome just because 8 10 live and 2 10 die vs 5 10 dying without an intervention? Are you pro murder? > > To which the obvious response is that s not happening and never would happen and isn t relevant to the discussion. > > Ps: I noticed you didn t address that despite many other luxury brands being far more expensive only Tesla is including AEB on every car they sell. Weren t you arguing Tesla s sin was unnecessary deaths that could have been prevented? I guess when Porsche Audi BMW etc refuse to make a safety feature proven to reduce accidents standard it s fine but when Tesla has a feature that reduces deaths but doesn t reduce deaths to zero it s negligent? And you think my line of reasoning is flawed? | 2019-05-17 20:37:51 | 43 | This post meets the minimum character limit. | 2019-05-17 20:54:32 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 951 |
[Discussion] How will advance summon work with intermittent signal? | I am really asking how will Tesla get advance summon to operate with the lack of signal in most parking garages? Since most are underground or in concrete structures that block wireless signals it seems like it will significantly limit usability of this feature. What if the car loses signal while it s in transit to you? Will it just stop somewhere and you won t know where it is? Also I would be nice to see out if the front camera while you can t see the car which won t work without a very strong connection. | 2019-03-03 18:09:42 | 6 | As well as current summon does- poorly. | 2019-03-03 18:10:31 | 22 | Issues with Smart Summon | 24,442 |
Autopilot Cause Tesla X wreck | Hey guys ive wrecked my tesla sunday night Everyone is ok. & #x200B autopilot did not recognize the exit ramp and did not slow down the car. Took a exit ramp at 70mph+ i took over when it was too late and decided not to hit the rail & #x200B & #x200B & #x200B [https: youtu.be VWTMnnECBSo](https: youtu.be VWTMnnECBSo) | 2019-04-10 17:14:18 | 11 | Glad to hear everyone is okay but Autopilot doesn t “cause” accidents like this. There was a several second window to realize the lane is an exit only lane and the speed was not appropriate for that curvature. It s super critical to pay attention while on Autopilot and this is something where just tapping the brakes at any point in that exit lane would ve prevented this from happening. | 2019-04-10 17:18:12 | 66 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 2,482 |
I saw a car running Software 8.0! | Hey wanted to share what I saw a few days ago. I saw a car (owned by an employee) running the new software. I didn t take a picture (doubt it would have been popular) but I have now made a rendering in very basic paint.net so excuse the crappy-photoshop-look... Anyways it had a much flatter and brighter UI and the maps that were currently opened stretched all the way to the top. Only the Tesla logo and what I think was the clock was visible. I m guessing its gonna show the menu once you click it. Also the control bar was darker. Cool stuff can t wait to receive the update. A nicer UI is way overdue! http: imgur.com U2kuwVN Please note: All images are from google so none of those are my photos!! | 2016-08-16 18:30:26 | 104 | Just hoping that the browser will be better... | 2016-08-16 20:14:54 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,181 |
Any theories as to why the prices and units on the Dutch (and other European) pages of the model 3 are still in miles and USD while the Semi and Roadster page are both in kilometers and euro s? | Semi release date: 2019 in US. Dutch page with Dutch prices in euro s and specification units in KM( h). Roadster release date: 2020 in US. Dutch page with Dutch prices in euro s and specification units in KM( h). Model 3 release date: next year (2018). Dutch page with US prices in dollars and specification units in Miles( h). I can t find see the logic in this. What do you guys think? | 2017-12-21 10:20:44 | 20 | Easy solution: There is no logic in this. | 2017-12-21 14:46:44 | 12 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 1,759 |
Is it possible to Negotiate with Tesla regarding Trade In? | So I submitted my VIN number on the order page got some kind of quote on the account page but it s way lower than Kelly Blue Book. I was told they are using CarMax prices. Were you able to negotiate the trade in value for your car? Or the first number they gave you you were stuck with that? My issue is that I am leasing a Leaf 18. Payout quote is 22K others are giving around 20K Tesla is giving me 19.2K. The dilemma is I wait and wait the Fed Tax credit will be that s 3750$ gone so there is advantage to get the Tesla now and take a loss on the leaf? Thanks! | 2019-04-15 18:33:48 | 7 | Short answer no. But try carmax since they ll match it. You ll get a lot more $ with a private party sale. | 2019-04-15 18:35:49 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,984 |
The future of the S 60 battery | I had a battery problem early on in my car s life. Tesla swapped it out for a loaner battery. I still have this loaner three years later. I ve checked in with them several times and they ve said that it was “still on backorder”. With the 60 discontinued I m wondering what the future plans to support the car are. I m wondering if there ll be a way to upgrade the battery in the future. Has anyone heard anything? | 2018-07-26 15:58:13 | 44 | In all likeliness they will never again make 60 s. Those they did at first were true 60 then they started making 75 s that were software locked to 60 IIRC. Ask them about getting a 75 instead since those are being made and will fit exactly into your chassis. Let them know this has been going on for 3 years and they will likely good faith you a 75 at no cost if you are nice about it. Worst case they can get you a 75 and put the software lock to 60 if they wanted to. I know that every single 60 they CPO they unlock to a full 75 before they CPO it to get more money for it. | 2018-07-26 16:55:03 | 47 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 20,806 |
When are tesla s friction brakes engaged versus regenerative breaking? | When are Tesla s friction brake systems engaged versus the regenerative breaking system? Is it similar to hybrids (like Prius) that only use friction brakes during very hard braking at any speed and also friction brakes at very low speeds like less than 14mph. Everything else would be regenerative breaking system only? | 2016-06-20 14:28:49 | 5 | When you push the brake pedal | 2016-06-20 14:36:45 | 57 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,088 |
Is a used Model S a better idea than a new Model 3 or Model Y? | I m starting the process of buying a Tesla. Originally I had planned to get either a Model Y or a Model 3 Long Range. I was looking through Tesla s website yesterday and I noticed that I can get a used 2017 Model S for between $45k and $50k. That s cheaper than what I ve been looking at for the Model Y and about the same as the Model 3. Are there any downsides that I m missing? I should mention that I am 6 5 and the idea of a larger car appeals to me. | 2020-12-10 15:14:19 | 16 | You might sit in both. I assumed the S would be more comfortable (I m 6 6”) but I find the 3 Y has more room for the way I sit. I ve had a loaner S a few times and it just doesn t work for me. The headroom in the Y I find to be the best glass roof makes a really big difference. | 2020-12-10 15:16:31 | 18 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 9,916 |
Two months in two major enhancement... Free. | Have a friend with a Mazda and received the news that there s an update available to enable Apple Carplay and Android Auto. The kicker? It s $495 and at the dealer! (Or you can purchase parts by yourself only to do the update) Just feeling appriciative for the fact that Tesla went with the decision of free and over-the-air updates. Updates Secured👌 PS. Two enhancements: (1) Version 9 (2) Navigate on Autopilot | 2018-11-03 15:30:52 | 138 | ...except at least he ll have Apple CarPlay. :) (In all honesty I ve never had a car with CarPlay so I have no idea what I m missing that makes so many mad Tesla doesn t have it.) | 2018-11-03 15:33:20 | 66 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 21,566 |
Tesla owners (this year) how many weeks did you wait for delivery in US and Canada.. And how did you handle the wait? | I have an estimate of late June but I know how notorious they are for missing dates so I m not holding my breath for June. | 2016-05-28 15:45:56 | 33 | I ve been waiting 4 weeks and counting factory delivery. The initial estimate was mid May production and late May delivery. The estimate has slipped around 2 weeks now early June production and mid June delivery. I have found the best way to cope is to walk away and take a Tesla break until you hear news from your delivery specialist.... Otherwise you will torment yourself with hundreds of refreshes a day and seeing some others get their car earlier than you and wonder what options they chose that led to that outcome..... None of which will help you get your car sooner. It s good that you started out with the expectation that the ETA is optimistic. That s been my observation both personally and asking around.... Tesla always seems to give an overly optimistic estimate but nothing is certain until the car goes into production. | 2016-05-28 15:58:11 | 12 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 20,085 |
Cpo Teslas and where to find them. | So my aunt is looking for a new car and has been interested in an electric vehicle. She had been looking at the volt and leaf vehicles but i told her she should consider a pre owned tesla because the price would be more affordable than new and the car is fantastic. I had heard they were going to base the cpo program out of nj. I live in ny so it wouldnt be a problem to travel there. My question is how can we get more information on a cpo tesla because there website has yet to elaborate. | 2015-04-13 17:57:20 | 12 | Call and talk to a Tesla rep or go in their store. The reps are the only ones that can look up CPOs for you and they change daily since they are sold pretty fast. You can also look on TMC forums autotrader and eBay for used... But it won t have the CPO inspection or additional warranty. | 2015-04-13 18:25:04 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,243 |
Several things that could be improved in Autopilot and NoA | Even though Autopilot and NoA are really great in their current state there are still a lot of good things that can be added. Here s a list to start: * Display a Google Maps-style alternative route suggestions for us to choose (allows us to decide whether we want to go further to save time or stick to the current path which may be more Autopilot-friendly) * Prominently display red orange yellow colors to indicate how heavy the traffic is (like Google Maps). Currently the traffic view colors are hard to see because the main blue navigation line is covering them. * Display stop signs and stop lights and the limit lines (I suspect that this is the next update they will release) * Display blinkers of cars who intend to change into my lane. I m not seeing much preemption done by the car leading me to think that it doesn t really recognize potential cutoffs despite the Autonomy day presentations. * Have the ability to use the indicator to change into a left turn lane in **city streets** (e.g. [https: www.google.com maps @37.7486023 -122.4592432 3a 75y 320.97h 80.39t data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-T\_U7QP5R6PbRk0LUNbwSQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656](https: www.google.com maps @37.7486023 -122.4592432 3a 75y 320.97h 80.39t data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-T_U7QP5R6PbRk0LUNbwSQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)) * Display lane closures or traffic accidents in the navigation (basically mirror Google Maps and Waze) What other small things do you think could improve the overall experience? | 2019-12-16 07:46:38 | 24 | The maps related features are missing likely due to high cost of google s Maps API. Probably why they handle routing themselves when it s clearly not as good as Google s and why plenty of other features are missing. You can see the car light up highlighted when high chance of cut in is predicted. (Blinkers would be cool and more noticeable though) The city left turning is an FSD feature and literally useless until FSD itself is working (at which point of course it will be able to do this). | 2019-12-16 08:53:32 | 13 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 17,072 |
Tesla footprint bigger in Asia (China) than we initially thought? | I m currently in Hong Kong and the amount of various models of Tesla Model S is staggering. The frequency could really be compared to that of a mid-level Audi or Mercedes E-class maybe even more. I can t find any recent numbers for China or Hong Kong sales. But I m thinking that maybe the numbers out here are way larger than we are giving them credit for? Especially in a city that taxes you for owning a car. It s a good sight to see. | 2016-10-25 05:49:16 | 26 | This is true of Hong Kong specifically because electric vehicles are not subject to a registration tax of 50-100%. It s really helped sales over here. In mainland China that s not the case and I think they may even be taxed more than local electric vehicles and ICE. | 2016-10-25 08:47:03 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,816 |
My experience with Tesla Solar | With all the increase in attention to the product I thought I d share my experience having just gone through the install process for this stuff. ------ ##Basic Timeline and Cost **1 28 2020:** Order placed for 3.78kW system + Powerwall. Total cost for solar: $10 500.08 (Powerwall got separated -- more on this later). I referred myself for a supposed $250 I should get back and there was a promotion for $250 to install by end-of-March. More on this later. **1 30 2020:** Home assessment scheduled for February 21 2020 **2 21 2020:** Home assessment -- they came over and looked at my roof. It s a nearly flat (very slight angle) roof that points basically directly at the sun in Northern California with no trees or other things obstructing it. Nearly perfect for solar. **2 24 2020:** Informed that Powerwall installation would be delayed to at least Fall 2020 due to backlog of orders (thanks PG& E). Given the opportunity to split order into solar and Powerwall so I could proceed with solar before Fall. I think they forgot to create the separate Powerwall order for me though so I m going to have to deal with that later. **2 24 2020:** Design given to me for approval. **2 27 2020:** More documents to upload and sign online. Install scheduled for March 18 2020. **3 16 2020:** Confirmation email for install. Also COVID ramps up and shelter-in-place issued. **3 17 2020:** Installation moved back several weeks due to shelter-in-place. This happened three times. Install eventually scheduled for May 5th. Was told I would still get the $250 bonus for March install. We ll see if that s true. **5 5 2020:** Panels installed. Took a day. Initial payment (half of solar total) due (payment made through PayPal). **6 1 2020:** Install inspection scheduled for June 3rd. **6 3 2020:** Inspection completed final invoice sent and second payment due (payments made through PayPal). **6 10 2020:** Application submitted by Tesla to PG& E for approval. **6 17 2020:** System approved for use! Turned on! So overall if you remove the delays from COVID it seems like the order-to-power-on timeline was approximately **3 and a half months**. The worst part was having the panels sitting on my roof for a month and a half without being able to turn them on just waiting for the necessary approvals. ------- ##Production You should never expect to get the full 3.78kW output at any given moment. We are in perfect season for solar right now and with no clouds in the sky sun directly overhead our system outputs around **2.8kW** peak output. Again with basically as perfect solar panel placement as you could get. In addition our system s Total Effective Inverter Nameplate Rating is just 3.419 kW anyways. What Tesla says is for the best months you multiply your system rating by 5-7 to get your estimated daily output. So we should get 18.9kWh to 26.46kWh on perfect days in the summer months which seems about right. For those of you who care the actual panels we have are: 12x Hanwha Q CELLS - Q.PEAK DUO BLK-G5 SC 315 And the inverter is a Delta Electronics Inc - M4-TL-US [240V] [SI1-FWVW] -------- ##The App System status is only available from within the Tesla mobile app not online. You can view: * Live production. This is done via the gateway inverter pairing and you can see your home consumption grid interaction if you have a PowerBlaster installed (which we do). * Impact. This is the overall production vs usage stats for your home. You can view a particular day week month year or lifetime. * Energy Usage. This shows a graph of your production home usage and grid interaction also for a day week month year or lifetime. Apparently more functionality is unlocked when you get a Powerwall. -------- ##Issues Customer Experience We ve had one ongoing issue so far which seems to stem from bad communication between our gateway (little black box we plug into our router to communicate with the inverter) and the inverter which is the app reports a stoppage of production at random times at random intervals throughout the day. See a fairly normal graph [here](https: i.imgur.com HK5Bcxt.jpg) vs a nearly identical day [here](https: i.imgur.com RdHjXig.jpg). Whenever I ve called Tesla Solar (888-765-2489) I ve been able to get to a human (assuming it s in business hours) fairly quickly and they ve always been very friendly. I m currently waiting a few days to see if the lack of production reported in the app (see the images attached) is reflected on PG& E s readings. If the drop in production is reflected with PG& E then it s a system issue if the drop is not mirrored with PG& E then it is an inverter gateway communication issue. Otherwise no complaints so far. -------- Overall it was a pretty seamless experience although some of the image documentation upload pages on the Tesla website leave a lot to be desired (it ll say go take a picture of your meter so you do then upload it then next page will say go take a picture of the wall with your meter so you do then upload it then the next page will say go take a picture of your main breakers etc. etc. which just has you running back and forth for an annoying period of time). Also yes I am salty that immediately after I turn my system on a more efficient cheaper system is made available. This always happens! | 2020-06-21 20:46:08 | 167 | I got the same inverter and panels..that s not issue with the communication. It s just how the inverter works..my biggest issue with string inverter is that if there is a drop in voltage on one panel the whole inverter has to recheck the whole system that takes time...I have the same graphs but with multiple drops due to clouds but during clear sky s here in Florida it almost a perfect duck curve. | 2020-06-21 21:23:29 | 22 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 13,395 |
Delivery Findings - Sanity Check | I picked up my Model 3 approximately a month ago and I have been loving it. The delivery process was a little busy hectic but since it was getting close to closing time I accepted their offer to take 3 business days to inspect the car on my own and report back findings that needed to be addressed. & #x200B In the three days following delivery I went through the car and documented the irregularities I could find and are documented below. I have since followed up with the local service department and they have been incredible. They are offering to fix most of these issues but I am left worried that any fix will potentially leave me worse off. I m a bit OCD so I m hoping to get a sanity check if these concerns are best left alone. It has been my experience in the past that any glass removal headliner removal panel removal ect will NEVER be perfect. Plastic tabs get bent broken fragments fall into cracks and rattle and other things inadvertently get damaged in the process. I m currently leaning towards just leaving everything as-is... thoughts? [Faint paint pooling similar to a tear drop only apparent with correct lighting. Would require respray.](https: i.redd.it pbhytbxsojt11.jpg) [Non-uniform seam for the rear trunk lid to adjacent panel. They said this is part of the manufacturing process and normal.](https: i.redd.it 7uaefywsojt11.jpg) [Scuffing or hard residue on rear glass panel. They attempted to clean this spot but said the panel would have to be cut out and replaced.](https: i.redd.it gxrzsevsojt11.jpg) [Blemish on headliner. I forgot to bring this up at my last visit but I have no doubt they would replace the headliner if they couldn t remove the blemish.](https: i.redd.it fwdwilvsojt11.jpg) [Scratching on driver side door. They offered to replace the door panel.](https: i.redd.it w5c06mwsojt11.jpg) [Slight variance in top glass panel relative to front windshield. I forgot to address this at my last visit but I suspect they would have to cut out the panel and replace.](https: i.redd.it jzwynnvsojt11.jpg) [Non-uniform seam for the rear trunk lid to adjacent panel \(opposing side\).](https: i.redd.it eihmj9zsojt11.jpg) & #x200B [Another view of possible scuffing on rear glass.](https: i.redd.it 0sd2wivsojt11.jpg) [Zoomed in view of possible scuffing.](https: i.redd.it ftyzoevsojt11.jpg) [Rock chip on front fender. They offered to respray the front fender and blend with adjacent panels to fix if I desired.](https: i.redd.it 8awg9owsojt11.jpg) [Blemish on headliner.](https: i.redd.it wksskjxsojt11.jpg) [Pock mark on chrome trim.](https: i.redd.it 4hrqzdwsojt11.jpg) [Closer view of rock chip on front fender. ](https: i.redd.it 5pg5ivvsojt11.jpg) [Blemish on headliner.](https: i.redd.it n507brwsojt11.jpg) [Are fasteners missing here? I ve checked one other Model 3 at work and it also did not have anything at these locations \(on either side\).](https: i.redd.it 66umji2qrjt11.jpg) | 2018-10-21 14:13:06 | 6 | Honestly I would just drive my car and enjoy it. It s not a museum piece. It s a form of transportation with some of the best technology out there. The battery tech alone is mind-blowing. I m not making excuses for Tesla - in a perfect world the car should be perfect. You paid for a brand new car in perfect factory condition and that s what you should receive. There might be one thing in your list that would bother me - that variance in the top glass panel. Those pock marks paint spools headliner spots? Nah. Part of life. And those scratches on the driver door panel? I ve got two kids - I had worse than that the day I brought my car home with my kids. We re all different. I m not here to judge you and only you can determine what you want to live with. But you did ask and so I ll offer my opinion. Live life enjoy that car and try not to worry about some scuffing on the side of the glass panel on the top of the roof. Chances are that you won t be happy with any replacement because something else will be out of kilter when they repair that. If this was a $350K Ferrari I was going put into a glass room that is temperature controlled and keep 0 miles on for posterity you better bet that I d want it to be pure perfection. But a $50K daily driver that you are going to put 200 000 miles on? Maybe just enjoy it. Best of luck to you. You do deserve what you paid for and you can determine what level of perfection you are willing to accept. | 2018-10-21 14:38:46 | 37 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 4,944 |
So I bought the Model 3 SR+ Hansshow Version E Premium Audio upgrade and installed it. Here s what I learned: | I have a June 2020 Model 3 SR+. They don t include the rear deck surround speakers from the factory older models do. I ve never done any vehicle wiring before so it was a learning experience and took me much longer than it probably should have (roughly 13 hours in total). I have experience with putting together computers and other electronics so I figured it wouldn t be too difficult that it wouldn t take me very long. (I was very wrong) Here s what I learned: If you don t have experience working on car audio systems or you don t have endless time and patience to figure out the somewhat frustrating instructions you should hire a professional to install it for you. If you do want to go ahead with the install yourself here are some things to keep in mind: A. Make sure you have the right tools for this. Car panel pry tools different sized wrenches hex keys various sized screw drivers zip ties for cable management and a windows laptop. Keep all of different screws and pins that you remove organized in a safe place so that you know which ones go where when putting everything back together again. B. You have to shut down the car and disconnect both the 12V battery as well as the main battery connection under the rear seats. Make sure to leave all the doors trunk & frunk and windows open before you disconnect the 12V battery. If you accidentally close close your frunk while the 12V battery is disconnect and all of your doors are closed you re in big trouble and might need tesla service to come tow your vehicle to open up your frunk again because that s where the 12V is and nothing in the car can work without it. I accidentally locked my frunk once while the 12V was disconnected and had to jump start the frunk lock through the wires in the tow hitch port at the front of the car. I used a 12V signal from another vehicle to do this. If the car is locked and the doors are closed that unfortunately won t work (so that people can t steal things from your frunk). C. You have to run cables under the carpets of the front two seats. It helps to have long arms to push the cable from one end of the carpet to the other as you can t fully remove them if you don t want to glue them back to the car later. D. The Hansshow video guides for install process are currently out of date and for an older design of their speaker upgrade. Some parts are still relevant and the same others very much are not. The only piece of information that Hansshow currently has for the new versions are PDFs with pretty low quality images and little explanations. I had to go back and forth between the old videos and the PDF to figure out how to remove certain panels and where to route the wires underneath them. That is why the install took me so much longer than it should have. That being said Hansshow was quite helpful when I spoke with them directly over WhatsApp and asked them loads of questions while I was installing it. They re based in China and seemed to be online from around 6PM PST. This was essential for figuring out a few things that were not detailed in their install guides. E. Their sound system now takes power and ground from under the rear seats. They tell you to connect the ground wire to part of the car that uses a tesla specific proprietary nut. I didn t have the tool to unscrew it so I had to connect ground elsewhere. F. The guide does a quite poor job at explaining where to mount the DSP. I ended up texting them on WhatsApp and they showed me where to mount it. It goes in the gap under the center console where they also tell you to route the wires through to the driver side of the car. I can t attach an image to Reddit but you ll know what I m talking about if you do the installation. They also include two small double sided adhesive pads to secure the DSP to the car. I ended up using some of my own 3M tape as well because I didn t feel like the DSP was secure enough with only the two included pads. G. Removing the panels often feels like you re going to break the connectors when pulling it off. Some do take quite a bit of force to remove. Just take your time and cross your fingers that nothing breaks when you pull them off. I managed to do everything without breaking something. (surprisingly) H. Once you have everything wired up reconnect the power to your car and test the sound to make sure all of the speakers are working before you put all the trim panels back on you don t want to have to take them off again if something isn t working properly. I. I found that the cable to connect the rear deck surround speakers isn t long enough to actually reach them to the Hansshow DSP under the middle console at the front of the car. They are simple red and black cables so it wasn t hard for me to just cut the connector ends off and extent them by another meter. This only applies if your Model 3 does not include the surround speakers from the factory since Tesla s wiring for them is not there either. J. When installing the subwoofer don t mount it until you have it wired up and tested it to make sure it s working. I also recommend tweaking the settings on it a bit to increase the bass that it outputs. It would be very difficult to do that once it s mounted. When mounting it make sure to really crank the screws down hard it ll work better and you really don t want the vibrations from it to loosen the screws over time. K. Make sure to plug in your laptop to the DSP once everything is connected and powered up and install the Hansshow custom settings on it. That s the key step in making everything balanced and sound the way it should. Here s where you can find their DSP software and custome profile: [Github Link](https: github.com Hansshow Model-3-Audio-Verision-E-DSP-software) My laptop really did not like their software and told me it s a malware trojan virus so just beware. I doubt it really is but anything is possible. My laptop isn t my main computer so I just said screw it and turned off my antivirus to open the program quickly and do the software install. L. Lastly here are some helpful videos and links that I refrenced throughout the installation: Old Hansshow video guide: [YouTube Link](https: youtu.be yumo6WYhkEA) Version E install PDF: [Google Drive Link](https: drive.google.com file d 1JrR3Tiv691swCWoFj0lcPj8Xs6nAGqAL view) How to disconnect the two batteries in the car: [Mountain Pass Performance Article](https: www.mountainpassperformance.com tesla-model-3-hard-reset ) [YouTube Link](https: youtu.be eSeVyDRSlR8) [YouTube Link](https: youtu.be ktrtLc6DhNU) [YouTube Link](https: youtu.be vngpzPeoAPM) [YouTube Link](https: youtu.be LACm5e6GzzM) [YouTube Link](https: youtu.be 6h2y3pl4DqU) Now you may be wondering was it worth it? First the bad: My only really complaint after installation is that left right front back is now reversed in the sound balance settings and the chimes for everything are painfully loud but I discovered that turning on Joe Mode brought them back down to basically stock loudness. Installation was difficult but it was never going to be easy anyways. The good: If you want your car to sound as good as possible yes it is 100% worth it. It makes quite a difference to me personally but I also love a great sound system. Everything sounds much more full and complete and the added subwoofer adds some good punch to whatever you re listening too. The audio experience in the back seats is a LOT better now too with the addition of the rear deck surround speakers. It truly feels like surround sound now because audio isn t just coming from the front sound bar. Overall I m glad that I did this upgrade. I wish the Hansshow installation guides were actually up to date and more clear but I imagine Hansshow will update their videos for it at some point. That s basically everything I could think of to meantion. Hopefully this was helpful to anyone considering buying this product or about to install it themselves. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask me. | 2020-11-21 21:18:17 | 98 | TL DR If you don t have car audio experience don t try this yourself. If you do have experience go for it. | 2020-11-21 21:37:21 | 56 | Tesla sound system comparisons | 17,350 |
Dog mode legalities? | Today was my first day using dog mode on my model 3 with my pup in the back seat and both times i had a run in with somebody. At the supermarket a man came sprinting up to me to tell me that i forgot to leave my windows down and when I informed him that the ac was on and that the dog was fine he didn t seem to believe me. Then a while later i stopped by Canadian Tire and was inside for only ten minutes but by the time I came out a guy was by my car waiting and told me that he had called the fire department and shortly after a fire engine pulled up. I let the guy know the AC was on and the temperature was on the display and he replied with “ya i know but i was just making sure” which kind of pissed me off because then he just wasted the time of the fire department just cus?.... Now here comes my question. The two firemen were totally understanding today and just went on their way but say the authorities were called and they weren t understanding could I get in trouble at all for leaving my dog in the car even with dog mode on? And if someone went ahead and decided to break one of my windows would they be liable? It s been very frustrating that nobody seems to even look into the car to see that it says the AC is on but are willing to go ahead and call for help. Would putting a sign on my window too be a good idea? | 2019-07-27 07:33:32 | 83 | There are people that drive with their windows down because they think they re going to use up all of the oxygen in the car. You can never fully protect yourself from stupid. | 2019-07-27 10:50:12 | 176 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,588 |
Recommendations for a SSD to use with Sentry Mode | So I m kinda confused about how to setup a SSD for the Model 3 Sentry Mode. Previously I asked about using a USB drive but everyone told me they re both short on memory and speed and that I d be better off using an external SSD. I d appreciate it if someone could point to the right drive and or kit | 2019-10-05 19:36:20 | 21 | Get the Samsung 500GB with the USB C connector. I m using this and it s plenty fast and stores more than enough video files. | 2019-10-05 19:40:39 | 15 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 16,241 |
Just built the 2 millionth model 3 | Factory worker | 2022-07-19 03:24:29 | 123 | https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1549422655656275968?t=vf4ZJr-qSACtNwPTXb5Z2w& s=19 It s official | 2022-07-19 16:08:21 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,395 |
Tesla Model 3 Leading Class at SCCA Solo Nationals | A Model 3 Performance being driven by David Marcus from Florida has won the B-Street class at the SCCA Solo National Championship. He bested Multi-time national champion Mark Daddio in a 2019 Mustang GT350 and Dinour Sizemore in a 2011 Lotus Evora and 51 other competitors to become the first full electric vehicle to win a Solo National Championship (this has not been fact checked). [http: sololive.scca.com BS.php](http: sololive.scca.com BS.php) https: preview.redd.it iv9zl1r0j0l31.jpg?width=960& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=3a086d2dad3fe40612e67c4a7ac036ecba8b7a7c | 2019-09-06 14:36:08 | 51 | Top female in the class is also driving a Model 3. Crazy seeing the different kinds of cars they re beating. | 2019-09-06 15:35:25 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,097 |
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Cybertruck is designed to be the world s toughest truck 11 000 lbs towing 2 500 payload | [https: twitter.com blkmdl3 status 1726666203798843774](https: twitter.com blkmdl3 status 1726666203798843774) | 2023-11-20 20:29:09 | 110 | I m not sure these specs are high enough for my use case. I will be driving around town and picking up an appliance from Home Depot 2 or 3 time over the next 5 years. | 2023-11-21 15:11:43 | 109 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck | 4,380 |
What happens to the battery pack and drive units of wrecked Model S ? | For cars that have been totaled due to extensive body damage like say a tree fell on it but the battery and drivetrain are still intact. What happens to them? Does Tesla recycle them? If you can buy those or salvage them I wonder how hard it would be to install one on a regular car. A BMW 5 series has very similar dimensions to a Model S for example. Getting rid of the gas tank exhaust engine tranny should free up a lot of space for a transplant. EDIT: autocorrect got me. | 2015-10-28 23:34:24 | 8 | This one got torn apart for information about the electronics: https: technology.ihs.com 510023 This guy bought one to put in a VW Bus RV (indefinitely on hold due to problems sourcing parts from Tesla): http: cafeelectric.com stretchla One user on TMC bought two batteries to use as a solar backup battery (Powerwall hipster): http: www.teslamotorsclub.com showthread.php 34531-Plan-Off-grid-solar-with-a-Model-S-battery-pack-at-the-heart | 2015-10-28 23:53:36 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,704 |
My own fault but we need a fix for this one | I was in a car wash were you put it it neutral and it pulls you through. I wanted to kill 2 birds i had just vacuumed and I keep wet wipes in my car. I reached back to wipe the backseats and my weight lifted off the drivers seat and the car threw itself into park. I felt bumps below me and franticly put the car in drive and moved forward since there was a car getting close behind me. I will be extremely careful and not let this happen in the future (I usually do contactless anyway) but I felt the need to share. | 2020-09-14 14:59:00 | 102 | Keep the seatbelt plugged in. | 2020-09-14 15:04:24 | 91 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,472 |
Weekend trips from Los Angeles using ModelS | I m planning to take my 3 year old son and wife on 3-4 weekend trips using our Model S from Los Angeles area. Any recommendations? Thanks | 2018-07-19 21:01:59 | 11 | We just took our Model S 90D on a 3 500 mile road trip from California to Colorado. It was an amazing trip and I m so glad we took the Model S (we also saved about $400 in gas by utilizing free supercharging). Some tips I would suggest: - Utilize destination chargers so you can plugin overnight and be ready to go the next day. We stayed at hotels with destination chargers and it was a great way to reduce wait time. - If you have Autopilot it s incredible on long trips. AP1 was driving for 90%+ of our 3 500 miles. Also we hit traffic in many cities and it was no big deal because we had Autopilot. - When Supercharging avoid parking directly next to another Tesla as this will share the same circuit and you will get a lower charge rate. This is why you often see Teslas in alternate charging spots. (on this note Supercharger V3 is expected to fix this issue) - Enjoy it! Road trips in a Tesla are great IMHO -- I loved it and plan on many more | 2018-07-19 21:30:05 | 9 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 22,359 |
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