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Having a charging issue
Hi I m a long-time lurker on reddit (really don t feel like I have much to say). That being said I m having some trouble charging my model S. Quick synopsis: * I had it plugged in the garage all day at work today and it was charging fine (110V 11A) at 3mi hr. This is more than enough for me since I only live 3 miles from work and my shifts are ~11 hours long. * I noticed that about 4 hours into my shift it had stopped charging. Didn t pay much attention to it was going at 110V 2A the rest of my shift and didn t add any more miles to it. * I was curious and drove it to a nearby Level 2 charger plugged it in (green port) - 208V 2A 0mi hr. * Slightly more panicked I let it sit for a bit with no changes in mi hr and frustrated drove it to a supercharger where I got 382V 12A and 12mi hr or so. I left it there for an hour came back (while monitoring it) and it was about the same rate - 13mi hr. I have enough charge to make it home and 2-3 more shifts but I am starting to get worried ... :( Any ideas what s going on? EDIT: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 5imhy5 update_having_a_charging_issue
2016-12-15 02:53:50
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Call your [service center](https: www.tesla.com findus# bounds 49.38 -66.94 25.82 -124.39?search=service &amp name=us). They can pull a lot of the diagnostics remotely and may be able to give you an answer on the spot. Keep us updated. edit: [A video of the diagnostics screen for anyone who is curious what they can see remotely](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=PtnKnyH3Q4E).
2016-12-15 03:09:02
13
Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
7,715
Update on the Tesla Service Center in Farmington Hills MI
I was in the area over the weekend and remembered u TwinTurbskiZ [post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7mqprv tesla_opening_a_new_facility_in_the_big_3s_back ) from the beginning of this year where he posted the blueprints for the proposed service center at [37567 Interchange Dr Farmington Hills MI](https: imgur.com 5ZDssfh). Although skeptical about a SC in MI I drove by to see if work has begun but the heavy tint on the windows and the glare made it difficult but from the looks of it I don t think much has been done. I was able to take pictures of the [permit](https: imgur.com xuxWHdn) (Picture is not clear but the text on the top-right corner is very similar to the blueprint) and the cherry on the cake was that there was a [Silver Model S](https: imgur.com hslERIm) parked [inside](https: imgur.com oVgYTPd). Maybe this is a confirmation that we will see a SC soon in MI? Album: [Tesla SC: Farmington Hills](https: imgur.com a 9ZxAfNO)
2018-05-30 01:55:51
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Given the fact that I live in southeastern Michigan and just picked up my S a week ago I really really really really REALLY REALLY REALLY hope this is actually going to happen!! The Lyndhurst Ohio Service Center is currently closest to Detroit at 3.5 hours away.
2018-05-30 04:38:08
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
21,792
Wondering when to install HPWC?
I noticed many times that its either out of stock or delayed delivery. Wondering if I should order it soon and just install it closer to delivery of my Model 3. Curious to hear other opinions and plans?
2016-05-19 20:03:23
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Thinking way way ahead:) I wouldn t worry about it for now and a HPWC is not really necessary. Do we even know if the Model 3 will be able to charge at 80 amps? Because with the Model S if you don t have dual chargers you can t charge at home at 80 amps. A 14-50 setup is really more than adequate for most people.
2016-05-19 20:26:09
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
23,863
What do we know about the upcoming September Tesla event?
Some time ago [Elon announced](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 852580027178696704) the Semi unveil event is happening in September. It is suspected that other announcements may be made at the same time as the unveil. Do we know when the event might occur and what all may be announced?
2017-09-06 01:17:46
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Truck will be ready in 3 months maybe 6 definitely.
2017-09-06 01:37:35
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
22,596
Day 1 reservation holder and why I m still getting the model 3
Like most people I was pretty upset about the pricing of the model 3. For $60k I was expecting every option including AWD. I thought I ll prob. spend $42 500 it ll have these new spaceship controls I ll get the options I want and I ll get something cool for reserving on day 1. Now I m admittedly salty. I m going to spend $60k for a car in hopefully December that is not the interior color I want and doesn t have AWD. Oh and that something cool is most likely a thank you. And the spaceship controls didn t happen. Here s why I m still buying it: I ve looked at every option from a Chevy Bolt to a Jeep Wrangler to a used Porsche 911. After gas savings low interest rate helping the environment enhanced auto pilot and potential for full self driving Tesla Network it just doesn t make sense to buy anything else (except maybe a base model S). At the end of the day I m not happy about the false promises the absolutely shit reveal the fact that they hid the interior during test drives as if something cool was coming (you know you got excited when you saw the steering wheel cover) and the fact that it s costing me much more than expected. But at the end of the day it s the best thing on the market. And if you don t need the extra range and can wait a bit longer for the options you want it s an even better deal. At this point I feel about Tesla the way I do Apple. I don t love either company I hate dishing out so much money for their products but they are admittedly the best. And Tesla has the advantage of seeming to want to do something good for the world.
2017-08-04 03:46:54
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Also you re getting the early batch that will probably have a lot of technical problems
2017-08-04 03:49:16
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
4,853
Battery Investor Day Speculation
With the possibility of Tesla making their own batteries in addition to utilizing Maxwell technologies dry electrolyte would it be feasible to do away with using battery cells and instead just make one or two big batteries per car? I would imagine that this would help with energy density weight power output and manufacturing time. Note: I m a novice when it comes to batteries so forgive me if this is a dumb question.
2020-01-22 07:33:48
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A standard AA battery produces around 1.5V. Depending on the tech a lithium battery produces around 3.6V. If you wire them in parallel you can get higher current but if you wire them in series you ll get a higher voltage. For example a 9V battery is usually built out of 6 1.5V cells and a 12V lead car battery is made with 6 2.1V cells. Unless new techniques physics comes about you need an array of cells to reach the 350ish volts that a Model 3 uses to drive. There are other ways to change high current into high voltage etc but transformers are usually less efficient than working with the batteries directly. It s a balancing act and things change but we probably won t find new physics that lets us build a 100V rechargable cell that also has good qualities for a rechargable battery. Maybe it works great for 100 charge cycles but then the capacity drops sharply.
2020-01-22 10:04:19
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Tesla Battery Production Optimization
2,711
When trading in a Tesla to Tesla do you turn in the mobile connector J1772 adapter bag etc. as well?
Pretty much as the title says... When trading in a Tesla to Tesla do you turn in the mobile connector J1772 adapter bag etc. as well?
2020-06-02 00:39:18
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Probably should but I bet it could slip past the cracks if you didn t. I would definitely keep any adapter no longer provided if you expect to get the same gen mobile connector like the 14-50
2020-06-02 00:42:10
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
23,150
Test drive my Model 3 in Las Vegas
Are you in Vegas for CES? Come test drive my Model 3! PM me :) Edit: I got a lot of PMs and have given a few test drives out. My Model 3 just got rented out via Turo on Monday and Wednesday. I plan to leave Vegas on Wednesday so the only day remaining days to test drive for free is Sunday or Tuesday. Otherwise you can book it on Turo at https: turo.com rentals cars nv las-vegas tesla-model-3 363498 and use https: turo.com c austinm293 for a $25 credit.
2018-01-06 18:27:21
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brb buying a ticket from Portugal to there
2018-01-06 18:42:04
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Tesla test drive experiences
20,534
Standard 85D: 265 &gt 295 miles range 5.4 &gt 5.2s 0-60 125 mph &gt 155 mph top speed. $4000 extra.
From the design studio. Looks like a no brainer for most people.
2014-10-10 05:00:48
9
God damnit.. I m expecting delivery late January I wonder if there s a way to add this?! EDIT: There has to be a mistake.. 265 to 295 mile range?
2014-10-10 05:05:04
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
17,717
Looking for help advice anything regarding my leased Model Y. Been 6 months and still haven t been sent a license plate car still isn t registered
***UPDATE IN COMMENTS*** ***UPDATE #2 - No callback again another broken promise. Will keep the fight going tomorrow and will have any updates on a new post. Thanks everyone in this community for your support. ***UPDATE #3 - GOT A CALLBACK! 1) Plates being processed tomorrow will receive call with tracking number. 2) Rental car being set up at nearest Enterprise to drive until plates arrive. Slightly disappointing they aren t providing a Tesla loaner but it s something. 3)I will be notified as to terms of reimbursement for lease payments made for time car has had expired tags. Not all the way there yet but great progress made. I like to think this was in part brought about by the support and helpful words of this sub. Another hopefully final update coming soon... Original story: Here it goes.. We leased a model Y in Jan 2021. We have yet to receive a license plate and the car still is not registered with the state of Texas. Again we leased the car in January. I have called countless times been promised call backs been reassured that the case has been escalated in priority been told the Fort Worth manager Jennifer is aware of my reaching out and would call me back.  And yet here we are closing in on end of June with no license plate and no temporary tags and no callbacks. We have had a car that for 44 days and counting we cannot legally drive. A car that we continue to pay our monthly lease payment because we uphold our end of a contract. Yet the team in Fort Worth won t even communicate with us the status let alone accomplish the simple task of registering our car.  I also own a Model 3. We love the cars. But this service is beyond repulsive and completely compromises our opinion of the Tesla brand. I believe we are well within our rights to receive compensation for the lease payments we are making for a car we can t legally drive. Like I said I ve called countless times spent many hours on hold and reaching out regarding this matter over the last few months. And still have nothing but a car we can t legally drive that we continue to make payments on. Please advise as to where we go from here. I feel I ve done everything I can. Any advice regarding legal options or ways to communicate with Tesla more effectively would be greatly appreciated.
2021-06-22 12:25:29
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If you re in Texas then you bought from Tesla in another state (on paper). It s probably California but figure it out. Then bug the dealer licensing regulators in that state. Tesla will fix things real quick once the regulators start calling.
2021-06-22 14:41:09
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For all the articles acting as if AP is witchcraft
I keep seeing articles as well as posts about “AI” and this idea that it is a “blackbox” as if developers don t know how it works. I d like to debunk this idea and give everyone a crash course in “AI”: the technology that drives Tesla. First off it s a neural network. There s a fundamental difference between the two. AI is a general form of Machine Learning (teaching the computer to do something) that is task oriented such as a bot in a game. In other words the bot finds a path avoids objects and attempts to attack a player. Conversely a neural network adjusts it s behavior based on a set of information known as the training model. How is a training model built though? It s actually pretty simple okay that s a lie. A very high level explanation is that a developer provides a series of fields that the neural network. Using these fields and setting various options about how the neural network interprets data a prediction is made based on given values. As for this “blackbox” concept it is RIDICULOUS. I ll break this down into 2 explanations. 1.) It s just math and probabilities seriously that s it. 2.) It s linear algebra differential equations and complex statistical models. It is gradient descent. So by the logic of these articles saying Neural Networks are a black box I guess a TI calculator operates like one as well. Once you have this not only can you view how it responds to test data but graph it s response over time to view its accuracy. So this idea that it changes its response every time and that it could make erratic predictions is nonsense. So long as the trained model remains the same the prediction will as well assuming as data is identical. I hope this demystifies some of the claims about how a Tesla operates autonomously. If you re interested in knowing more about this stuff just look for classes in Python and Tensorflow. Or for a mathematical explanation there are some great articles like http: citeseerx.ist.psu.edu viewdoc download?doi=10.1.1.161.3556&amp rep=rep1&amp type=pdf but this is a very technical paper. For those already familiar with these concepts I was discussing primarily unsupervised learning as that is what Tesla likely uses. Thanks for reading
2017-05-16 12:10:28
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It s just math and probabilities seriously that s it. That describes anything and could be represented as a black box in any sort of diagram. It s not a black box as in no one know how it works. It s that it has inputs and outputs and articles aren t going to dive into how it works. And no it won t change its responses every time but no two cars are in literally the exact same situation ever. So it might seem the same but a slight change in the environment could cause the car to act very differently than expected.
2017-05-16 13:31:34
14
Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Youtube Premium - cannot sign in
Is everyone getting a failure to be able to sign in to youtube premium from the car? The message is from google: This browser or app may not be secure . I used to be able to sign in but with the new software I cannot. It is clear that google is blocking it but I wonder what browser tesla is using. Is there a way to ask youtube to review allowed browser?
2020-08-25 15:11:20
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The trick to use is to first login to a goggle-authenticated site most people use [https: plex.tv](https: plex.tv) Once you are logged in your authentication cookie is stored and you can go right into the YouTube app.
2020-08-26 01:51:29
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Update to being left without any transportation because of a blow out on the highway in a loaner.
Sorry for the delay in posting an update to this it s been a busy last couple of days. Original post can be found here: [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments en55qf left\_without\_any\_transportation\_because\_of\_a\_blow ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments en55qf left_without_any_transportation_because_of_a_blow ) I wanted to post an update to let everyone know how this turned out. I was able to contact the service center on Monday. It took several times of calling but I finally got ahold of someone in the early afternoon. I told them what all had transpired and they gave me a update on my car. They informed me that my car should be ready by the end of the day and that the service manager would be there for me when I picked up my car. Here is the update on the repair since some of y all were interested in that as well. They were able to replace the steering column assembly which completely resolved the grinding I was getting when moving the column in and out. They replaced the rear passengers lock assembly as some component in it was defective and was rattling. They successfully completed the HW3 install as installing the firmware is stable at this point. Side note on the HW3 install for all those who haven t gone through it yet. Turns out the HW3 install will (most likely) erase all your profiles and settings so be forewarned as I was not. On to the matter of the Loaner. They inspected the blowout and found no signs of damage to the wheel brakes suspensions or the exterior of the car. I was informed that the tire replacement will most likely be charged to my insurance which I am fine with after all I was the one driving. At this point if they cover the cost It will be a pleasant surprise. They are going to reimburse me for the Ubers I had to take. One the night of the blowout and the other to get the car rental. They are also reimbursing me for the car rental itself for the full \~3.25 days I had it. They are also covering the gas used during that time as well. The service manager was appalled at how the Roadside assistance people responded to the situation and informed me that I was actually entered into the system. He then went on to tell me that the roadside assistant people have trouble viewing what the service center people put into the system sometimes. After learning this I highly encouraged the service manager to push a policy system change to resolve this issue for others in the future. As this appears not to be the fault of one person not entering the information as I previously thought but a communication system fault between roadside assistance and the service center themselves. My advice to anyone who gets a loaner (not through enterprise) double check and make sure roadside assistance can see you in the system before driving the car off the lot. Otherwise until their communication system is fixed updated this issue could occur to someone else again. All in all I am happy with the way Tesla resolved the issue in the end. I only wish Tesla (roadside assistance) had proffered solutions from the beginning instead of going straight to telling me they couldn t help me.
2020-01-16 19:41:13
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Maybe it s just me but I kind of find that idea of your insurance being charged for the blowout rather strange. I could see it being fair if you struck an object then yes you should be held liable. But on a loaner blowing a tire seems like it should be on Tesla if it was due to a faulty tire or normal wear and tear. Just my 2 cents.
2020-01-16 20:04:11
89
Tesla Service Experience Feedback
21,799
Tesla s large-scale fleet learning
Tesla has [approximately 650 000](https: lexfridman.com tesla-autopilot-miles-and-vehicles ) Hardware 2 and Hardware 3 cars on the road. Here are the five most important ways that I believe Tesla can leverage its fleet for machine learning: 1. Automatic flagging of video clips that are rare diverse and [high-entropy](https: towardsdatascience.com information-entropy-c037a90de58f). The clips are manually labelled for use in fully supervised learning for computer vision tasks like object detection. Flagging occurs as a result of Autopilot disengagements  [disagreements between human driving and the Autopilot planner](https: link.medium.com FJtyihStS1) when the car is fully manually driven (i.e. shadow mode)  [novelty detection](https: deepai.org machine-learning-glossary-and-terms novelty-detection)  [uncertainty estimation](https: www.inovex.de blog uncertainty-quantification-deep-learning ) manually designed triggers and deep-learning based [queries for specific objects](https: youtu.be 33K3id2xNAE) (e.g. bears) or specific situations (e.g. construction zones driving into the Sun).  2. Weakly supervised learning for computer vision tasks. Human driving behaviour is used as a source of automatic labels for video clips. For example with [semantic segmentation of free space](https: www.reddit.com r SelfDrivingCars comments e0x7kl automatically_labelling_semantic_free_space_using ). 3. [Self-supervised learning for computer vision tasks](https: twitter.com karpathy status 1193771034962325504?s=20). For example for [depth mapping](https: youtu.be LR0bDLCElKg). 4. [Self-supervised learning for prediction](https: youtu.be A44hbogdKwI). The future automatically labels the past. Uploads can be triggered when a HW2 HW3 Tesla s prediction is wrong.  5. [Imitation learning](https: youtu.be v5l-jPsAK7k) (and possibly reinforcement learning) for planning. Uploads can be triggered by the same conditions as video clip uploads for (1). With imitation learning human driving behaviour automatically labels either a video clip or the computer vision system s representation of the driving scene with the correct driving behaviour. (DeepMind recently [reported](https: deepmind.com blog article AlphaStar-Grandmaster-level-in-StarCraft-II-using-multi-agent-reinforcement-learning) that imitation learning alone produced a StarCraft agent superior to over 80% of human players. This is a powerful proof of concept for imitation learning.) ​ (1) makes more efficient effective use of limited human labour. (2) (3) (4) and (5) don t require any human labour for labelling and scale with fleet data. Andrej Karpathy is also trying to [automate machine learning](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=oBklltKXtDE) at Tesla as much as possible to minimize the engineer labour required. These five forms of large-scale fleet learning are why I believe that over the next few years Tesla will make faster progress on autonomous driving than any other company.  Lidar is an ongoing debate. No matter what robust and accurate computer vision is a must. Not only for redundancy but also because there are certain tasks lidar can t help with. For example determining whether a traffic light is green yellow or red. Moreover at any point Tesla can deploy a small fleet of test vehicles equipped with high-grade lidar. This would combine the benefits of lidar and Tesla s large-scale fleet learning approach. I tentatively predict that by mid-2022 it will no longer be as controversial to argue that Tesla is the frontrunner in autonomous driving as it is today. I predict that by then the benefits of the scale of Tesla s fleet data will be borne out enough to convince many people that they exist and that they are significant.  Did I miss anything important?
2019-11-25 20:09:25
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God damn it with the bears already. Anyway I liked seeing this on r TeslaAutonomy
2019-11-25 21:13:44
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
20,234
Teslas should be able to show the cost of a charging session without being at a supercharger
We had family members visit last weekend and they owned a Tesla. I ve been trying to get my parents on the bandwagon for months now but only after seeing the car and having a hands on experience did it actually stick. During the time our family stayed with us they parked in our garage and used a dryer outlet and an extension cord to charge the vehicle. At the end of their stay they left some cash behind to cover the cost of the charging they did overnight. This got me thinking maybe there should be way to ask the car to report the cost of a charging session for convenience if you re staying with someone or a supercharger isn t involved. Is there already a way to do this? Update: Thanks for all your responses!
2018-07-25 04:19:50
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Electricity prices vary too much depending on location. You might also be powering it through wind solar or your utilities provider (maybe even a combination of each). You could also have different arrangements like time-of-use with different peak off-peak rates. For my Model 3 I remember seeing a calculation of around 3 cents per mile (no source unfortunately) and that s what I usually use as a back of the envelope calculation.
2018-07-25 04:33:17
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
20,508
ModelX launch mode 0-60
EDIT: I m asking for the best case scenario in these conditions. I know that wet roads and low temps aren t ideal So I tried to launch the modelX 2020 in ludicrous+ mode with warp mode easter egg turned on. I let the battery heat first by turning on ludicrous mode and then waited to get the battery heated further by the warp mode easter egg. It was in wet conditions and outside temperatures were 45F. It took about 4s to launch. Is this normal? Maybe in drier conditions and higher temperature it could have been quicker? The peak kW was 550kW. Any tips on how to improve launch speed are appreciated https: preview.redd.it esgof9sb3uw41.png?width=3684&amp format=png&amp auto=webp&amp s=838fe80e925545c706a67af0e879f9d685bdf343
2020-05-04 23:39:34
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If you don t understand the physics of wet roads and the effects on grip stop doing launches in your car immediately and never drive aggressive.
2020-05-05 00:50:03
31
Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
13,081
Usb stick for cam file management.
Is there a way to delete the usb stick from the car interface without having to remove it and hook it up to a computer? Im finding it gets full every few days. Post deleted for being too short so I hope this clear and concise question sparks a good discussion! Thanks and hopefully there are now enough words. Good day to all.
2019-07-21 19:59:39
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If you don t mind tinkering this might work for you: [https: github.com marcone teslausb ](https: github.com marcone teslausb )
2019-07-21 20:31:15
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Issues with Sentry Mode
21,874
Model 3 - A very very small thing to keep in mind for any need for refund on a $1000 preorder in the future.
This is probably of no concern to the majority in here but thought I would post anyway just as a FYI. I placed a $1000 preorder with a credit card that I know for certain is going to cancel expire before the car comes out late 2017 early 2018. I called the 1-888 customer service line and the rep said in the case I do cancel a preorder and my CC account is already expired deactivated when the $1000 is supposed to refund Tesla will send the $1000 as a mail-in check to the address used during pre order registration.
2016-04-01 17:40:48
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Costco AmEx?
2016-04-01 18:37:01
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
11,555
Tie Spotify Profile to Driver Profile
In times of Covid I m living with my parents and we re sharing vehicles. Guess which car gets driven the most? :D My Model 3. But when mom and dad hop in my car to take it out they end up breaking my Spotify stream everywhere else because they want to listen to their classic rock in the car. He has his own driver profile in the car but I really wish I could connect HIS Spotify profile to the car while he drives so that he and I don t have to fight over who gets to stream.
2020-09-21 02:23:46
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This! I want my wife s choice of music no where near my Spotify account!
2020-09-21 03:05:14
43
Spotify Integration Analysis
21,172
Tesla Model Y Contactless Delivery Experience and Issues
Ordered my Model Y when it was first announced on March 19 2019. And I received my red performance uber wheel Model Y today! It s definitely an interesting experience to receive the car on your driveway. Nope nobody was there just the car itself! Activate it via Tesla app and go from there. Like a lot of you I have several paint chipping issue and uneven panel gaps. They are all okay. But my rear hatch was broken and when the system closes the rear hatch it wouldn t lock it! Check my first video and see my experience: [https: youtu.be ctF2CtLRSoY](https: youtu.be ctF2CtLRSoY)
2020-03-31 04:27:43
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Mine came with a curb rash a paint chip unclosable frunk (I fixed this myself) and the 60% rear seats won t fold down with the back button and they re not aligned with the other seat. https: i.imgur.com Iy1lQ1C.jpg Call the service center you scheduled with to follow up because if they need to order parts it s gonna take a bit of time with what s going on. Congrats and enjoy your Y!
2020-03-31 14:06:25
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Steering wheel buttons
Listening to a lot of podcasts lately thanks to tunein. Is there any way to make the ff and rw buttons on the left side of the wheel do the 15 sec skip instead of track forward back? I can t stand commercials and finding the quickskip on the touchscreen is a bit tedious for the frequency it is necessary.
2017-02-25 17:49:42
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I find the podcast support to be pretty bad. In fact I haven t used it for a year. Did they improve it ? Last year podcast were not updating unless you rebooted the media center
2017-02-25 17:56:14
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Spotify Integration Analysis
17,770
Elon Tweet Storm - March 24 2017
Someone please consolidate the posts into a comment. I would do it myself but I do not have access to Twitter at work. I m leaving the other posts up for another 15 min so if anyone would like to gather them and be the commenter (who can update the comment with further updates) I d appreciate it. **Additions**: - [Streamable Mirror of video](https: streamable.com 59jr4) - * The more autonomous a car is the less dash info you need. How often do you look at the instrument panel when being driven in a taxi? * - *Elon Musk confirms the biggest battery pack on Model 3 will be 75kWh.*
2017-03-24 14:59:15
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[Am noticing that many people think Model 3 is the next version of a Tesla like iPhone 2 vs 3. This is not true.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6196c9 elon_musk_on_twitter_am_noticing_that_many_people ) [Model 3 is just a smaller more affordable version of Model S w less range &amp power &amp fewer features. Model S has more advanced technology.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6197di sounds_like_elon_is_trying_to_convince_us ) [Model Y is coming too in a few years.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 61999r model_y_coming_in_a_few_years_as_per_elon ) [(Long thread about dual motor not being available until next year to keep production ramp on schedule. Early res. holders wanting D model will be first in line when it enters production in ~6-9 months)](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6199zh dual_motor_model_3_coming_later_next_year ) [Elon is a dumb idiot ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 619ahf that_time_elon_admitted_he_was_a_dumb_idiot_in ) [No HUD for Model 3 CONFIRMED](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 619c68 no_hud_for_model_3_confirmed ) [First video of Release Candidate Model 3](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 619d8x first_video_of_release_candidate_model_3 ) [Electrek article about video](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 619fct elon_musk_releases_video_of_the_first_model_3 ) And in other news: [Solar shingles open for orders in April!](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 619irr solar_shingles_open_for_orders_in_april )
2017-03-24 15:05:39
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Build Routines with your Google Home s Assistant
I ve been neck deep in research as I patiently await my P3D- delivery date next week. I did find one interesting thing that I was surprised didn t have more attention figured I d share with all of you nice folks. This applies to anyone with Google Assistant whether you have a Google home or other Google product with an assistant built in. First to prepare download the google assistant app if you don t have it already and sign in. Then ask your google home to “Ask EV Car to lock the car”. It will give you an error about not being linked. Then open your Google assistant app again and it should prompt you to sign in to your Tesla account. Once you ve signed in you can ask your google home to do almost anything to your car. You ll need to ask Google to “Ask EV Car” to do the task. So here s where it really gets cool. In the Google Assistant app you can set Routines. With one request to the assistant you can complete multiple requests. So for example I have one set up to trigger when I say “OK Google I m leaving”. Google then does the following: 1) Ask EV Car to cool the car 2) Count to 60 (this is the only way I ve found to time delay in a routine) 3) Turn off all of the lights 4) Lock all of the doors 5) Ask Alarm.com to arm the system away 6) Set the home AC to 78 degrees. Obviously this works better when you have more home automation but even if you just tell Google to cool the car a few minutes before you walk out the door you may find it s a helpful feature. Hope this helps some of you!
2019-09-19 21:11:20
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Note that EV Car is a third party app service. You will be giving your Tesla credentials to a third party. Use at your own risk.
2019-09-19 22:27:46
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Bestla Tesla Companion App
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[Discussion] Tesla is unable to give an ETA on the parts the body shop needs to repair your car
TL DR: Don t get into an accident cuz you may never get your car back. For those that don t know [I crashed my Model 3 AWD in icy road conditions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments a8arov you_guys_think_thisll_buff_out ) on Dec 21. Because of a series of unfortunate events the insurance adjuster didn t see it until 1 3 at which point they declared my car repairable with a pricetag of $15 500. Worst news possible. Over the last (nearly) 2 months I ve been in regular contact with the body shop who has been amazing thorughout this entire ordeal. They ordered parts on 1 3 as soon as they got the okay from the insurance to repair but told me what I already knew that parts could take a while. I called them a couple weeks later when they told me they had some parts but not all. I called again 2 weeks ago and they said they re waiting on airbags and some other parts and that it could take a couple more weeks. I emailed Tesla s customer support (LOL) in annoyance at how long it took parts to get out to shops. I obviously knew this was completely useless I just needed to shout into the void. I got an email today saying that they don t have an ETA for parts for my car. I asked for clarification do they not know exactly what parts are needed or do they know what parts are needed but don t have an ETA on when they d be able to be shipped to the store. They emailed back after a couple hours saying We have received the parts orders from the body shop. At this time I do not have an ETA on the backordered items. I m definitely at wit s end. I know others on this forum have had similarly frustrating experiences for much longer periods of time than 8 weeks. So now I guess I m adding my disbelief and frustration to the pile. I have been a huge Tesla fanboy since the roadster. All my friends and acquaintances joking I should be a salesman for them since I talk about them so much. Everyone was very congratulatory when I finally got my car in September. I gave everyone rides and let as many people as I could drive the car. I went to neighbor s houses with my charger to see if their existing garage plugs would work for a Model 3. I can no longer in good concience reccomend Tesla to anyone. This experience has been terrible all because Tesla doesn t give a shit about their owners. *Driving* the car was great. *Owning* the car has been terrible.
2019-02-18 19:04:44
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&gt TL DR: Don t get into an accident cuz you may never get your car back. Yeah that pretty much how it works with Tesla. You usually just hope the car is considered total so you don t have to put up with their terrible after-accident service for months on end.
2019-02-18 19:09:25
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Tesla Service Experience Feedback
24,796
Canadian Y Deliveries
Any Canadians receive delivery emails yet? I know we are still a couple weeks off and the rollout usual crosses the USA first but just wanted to check in with my fellow hosers to see if any of them have gotten anything? Also wondering how long you fine people think it would take to get if I placed a deposit for a Performance spec Y in the next few weeks? &amp #x200B PS. Need to congratulate Tesla on what they have accomplished. You don t see many EV s out and I consistently see 3-8 teslas a day. I know that s nothing for some cities but I feel like for Calgary it s pretty good.
2020-03-02 00:19:25
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As per tesla oakvile middle of summer
2020-03-02 00:42:35
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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are Non-Employee Non-Owner Test drives for the model 3 coming soon?
Day 1 reservation here. I was at the LA autoshow and I was able to spend a solid hour with the model 3. Visually stunning and i m really pleased with how it came out. I asked for Test drive availability but no one seemed to really know. Do we know of any events for reservation holders to get a drive? Or if any of you guys are in Los Angeles i d love to have a ride along and we can get some dinner on me or something.
2017-12-18 16:35:37
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Not to be rude or anything but I am guessing that there are more than enough people who are willing to buy the Model 3 without test driving. Enough people to keep the demand more than the supply. Once the demand from these crazy people who buy before they try is slowing then Tesla will have to bring the Model 3 out for test drives. p.s. I m one of those crazy people. Heck I bought my Model S without test driving
2017-12-18 16:58:24
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Tesla test drive experiences
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You ve Made Your Model 3 Reservation - Test Drive a Model S at Your Own Descretion
For those of you who have made a Model 3 reservation but have not yet had the opportunity to drive electric you should be aware that taking a test drive is a double-edged sword. On the one hand it is an excellent opportunity to get a feel for what it will be like to drive your Model 3. Driving an electric car is a much better experience than driving an ICE. It is smooth quiet and it feels like the accelerator (not gas!) pedal is reading your mind. Whatever your foot does the car does. It s an experience like no other. On the other hand once you go for a test drive the anticipation of the delivery of your own Model 3 will be agonizing. If you think you are obsessed with Tesla now your post-test drive obsession will be unparalleled. You ll be checking this Reddit and search for headlines on the Model 3 many times a day. On January 1 2017 you ll be seeking the actual release date many times a day but you won t actually find out what the release date is until November of 2017. When the release date is finally announced in late 2017 you ll be checking your MyTesla account multiple times a day to find out if you ve gotten any updates on your own delivery date. Once you find out your delivery date is October 23 2018 you will pull your hair out. Fortunately you ll have almost a year for your hair to grow back so that you ll look better for the picture with your car when you finally take delivery. Your delivery will be just as exciting as the delivery of your first born if not even more. Of course even if you don t test drive a Model S you ll still be quite obsessed with the Model 3. However be warned: your obsession will be taken to another level post-test drive.
2016-04-01 14:25:34
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your warning was too late for me i m hooked... do we have any Tesla Anonymous meetings?
2016-04-01 14:28:38
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Tesla test drive experiences
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Brand new Raven Model X Long range vs P90D 2017 Model X
Hi all I m in a bit of a dilemma here. I ve been looking to upgrade from my Model S 75D to Model X. I wanted atleast 200 miles of range for my use so I started looking at used Model Xs. I found 2 really good options : 2017 Model X 90D 7seater with white interior for £53k 60000 miles odo 2017 Model X P90D 6 seater with white interior for £60k 50000 miles odo. I would ideally end up upgrading the MCU when the option is available if I end up getting either of the above. Now a new Model X Raven Long range 7 seater with white interior costs £87k in your opinion should I go for the new MX over the old one ? Is it worth the additional money?
2020-06-06 12:57:26
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Personally I d get the Raven. Better tech newer build better reliability.
2020-06-06 13:00:20
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Bluetooth errors
Why does my Bluetooth constantly go haywire in my M3P? It ll somehow mess up when trying to make a phone call or voice commands then it ll take away sound from audio and the blinker and won t work until I turn the car off.
2020-06-06 06:58:40
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I m sure you probably just wanted to bring it up as an issue but if you really want to know why it has to do with the way software runs on an OS. When an application starts running it needs to talk to the hardware through an API. There are a few ways to do this but typically the first calls request exclusive access (meaning nothing else can communicate) when it s setting itself up. This would terminate any existing access. This is done partly for security reasons and partly to avoid the storage mess of every piece of hardware having to store info on every application that could and or has ever accessed it. So why does sound resume in some cases? Well the application attempts to re-establish itself. It doesn t have to start from scratch this time. It just has to request access to the hardware again as long as the application still has the API handle it initially requested. However sometimes that is lost due to the OS optimizing memory or if it exceeds some time out period. What should happen for the main OS sound is a service should be running constantly trying to restart the sound if it s not running. Applications may need to restart but the OS should handle itself. The lack of this is why you need to restart to get sound back. Also bluetooth doesn t fail nicely imo. This is why you re having issues at all.
2020-06-06 12:40:28
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Spotify Integration Analysis
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Model 3 Config Email Received but not able to configure.
Reservation for LA online before reveal non owner. Received the email to configure today but no way to configure when signed in online. Others having this issue?
2018-03-22 19:34:43
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Called customer service they said it might take an hour or so before the site updates to get the configurator up. Update: Still waiting (3.5h later) with no option to configure... Looks like many others on the Tesla forums are having the same issue too. Update 2: And we re live! Better to be 4h late than never.
2018-03-22 19:46:34
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How well has the Model 3 door handles and windows held up in the winter and snow?
With the winter behind us now I thought I d get some feedback on this. I haven t seen that much in the way of complaints here so I m expecting it s been good. But just to confirm how many 3 owners have had problems in terms of opening the sleek door handles when there s been heavy snow or freeze-defrost-freeze cycles? Is it relatively average compared to other modern cars? And have the windows and trunk opened up just fine too? I suppose many of you heated the car from their house prior to entering the car? Does that help a lot?
2019-06-11 04:58:36
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No issues in Iowa (street park). Sometimes I have to hit the handles with the side of my fist to break the ice if it s iced over completely. Not a big deal. The only annoyance I ve dealt with is the charge port door being iced over and not opening. I think they might have fixed that with a software update since I last had it happen.
2019-06-11 05:09:52
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Phone Key not working after Android 13 update. Solution.
Anyone with a Pixel has recently gotten the Android 13 update and for many of us that meant our phone key stopped working. Most likely all you need to do is forget the car in your phone s BT and re-pair it using the car s BT menu. Worst case ***The Nuclear Option*** has worked for everyone that has tried it: - Delete the key in the `Locks` section of the car menu. - Forget the car in the `Security` section of the app (click the image of the key card) - Forget the car in the phone BT settings - Forget the phone in the car BT settings - Close the App and reboot the phone - Reboot the car (hold both thumbwheels until screen goes black) - Repair phone with car using car s BT menu - In `Security` section of the App complete phone key setup
2022-08-25 20:25:16
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that s far from the nuclear option. That would be wiping your phone and buying a new car.
2022-08-25 21:33:20
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Model 3 phone key issues
15,156
What are the prospects of an electric pick up?
I was pondering this today. Tesla has come out with a sports car a high class sedan and now a crossover. The only market that I think Tesla electric vehicles in general would have a tough time breaking into would be the pick up market. I see 2 reasons for this 1) Pick up owners in my own personal experience are a big fan of the big gas guzzlers especially the big diesels. The thirstier the better. I think it would be an uphill battle to persuade these people to switch to an electric. 2) This one I m not as sure about which is why I wanted to bring it to the community. The main reason most people get a pick up is for the power to haul heavy equipment tow trailers etc. I m certainly no engineer but from my basic understanding the electric Tesla motor doesn t have a transmission or gears to shift through which is what gives it its great acceleration but wouldn t this mean it would have less torque? Again Im not a big car guy and I only have a basic understanding of how all this works but it seems that because it lacks the lower gears it would also lack the ability to haul heavier loads or am I wrong? I just think that if we move to an all electric future Pick up drivers are going to be the hardest to change.
2015-09-30 04:16:00
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&gt the electric Tesla motor doesn t have a transmission or gears to shift through which is what gives it its great acceleration but wouldn t this mean it would have less torque? Its the other way around. The electric motors give such great acceleration *because* they have so much torque. &gt 1) Pick up owners in my own personal experience are a big fan of the big gas guzzlers There are other ways of doing it. Australia has had a market based for pick-ups based on sedans for decades. The US El Camino and Ranchero copied the idea. The Australian vehicle I am talking about looks like [this] (http: imgur.com aczDEUX). The front half of the car is exactly the same as the sedan so comfort and appointments are the same. This makes retooling a factory for a production run extremely easy and GM in Australia do a production line conversion with only a couple of hours downtime. It should be extremely easy for Tesla to have the same design simplicity to achieve the same product. The key will be to sell the vehicle based on its functionality not on look how much oil I can burn .
2015-09-30 04:43:44
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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[Discussion] What Has Been Experience with ‘Edit Design
For those who have configured once you submit your order my understanding is that an Edit Design option appears. Can changes be made to wheels colors etc. for a number of days weeks? Is anyone considering submitting their order now with the hope of switching to the white interior in July if it becomes available?
2018-06-25 23:46:39
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The option didn t pop up for me when I submitted my order and filled out all the information. However I found that I can go back in and change the trade-in to “yes” at which point I can edit the design. From there everything can be updated. I made changes twice doing this. Once to change it back to 18” wheels another time to remove EAP. After that I changed the trade-in back to no and the option went away again. I think you can do this upto when they start building your car which is a mystery at this point when that is. If you are concerned give them a call.
2018-06-25 23:59:33
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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Critical piece of investor psychology those betting against Tesla just don t understand.
Tesla IS different than other hot tech companies and understanding why so many people feel that way should be a part of your analysis of TSLA stock. If you re a short seller and what I m writing makes no sense to you then you haven t done your homework. So here is some insight into the hardcore Tesla investor mind. When asked about why Elon Musk keeps working so hard and he says things like I just want to think about the future and not be sad. Or describing a vision of millions of people living on a self sustaining Mars. Or naming the autonomous drone ships after the AI ships in the Culture novels. We get an understanding that he believes we have the power to make humanity s future a bright one and that we can actually make a difference. Like the butterfly effect the decisions we make now as a species will determine whether we live in some star trekian or Culture-like utopian future 1000 years from now. Larry Page of Google said I d rather donate my billions to Elon Musk than to some charity. I feel he d better know what to do with it to help humanity. I think many people feel the same way. The same idealism that makes a young adult volunteer for an NGO overseas or fight for their country or work crazy hours at TESLA straight out of University is the desire to make a difference in the world. It s to affect the course of humanity. I think the same is true of many investors. Charities and NGOs rake in billions a year but what difference are they really making in humanity s future over the next 100 or 1 000 years? I can invest my money in TSLA and help support the team that s going to help create the future I want to live in. I m donating my tolerance for increased risk in my portfolio for a cause I believe in and I m probably going to get rich because of it. Tesla Spacex OpenAI... they aren t just companies they are philanthropic endeavours.
2018-03-01 14:32:32
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The premise is that stock investors want to be part of something philanthropic and that will promote the stock regardless of profits. Most people let alone investors are not that pure of heart.
2018-03-01 14:41:43
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Service Center lost my Maxpider mat
I had my Model 3 serviced 3 weeks ago it needed a new battery. I only noticed today that my rear 3D Maxpider mat was never put back into the car. I called the Service Center and they said they couldn t find it. They also claimed they couldn t compensate me because it wasn t brought up on the same day I took back the car. Now these things are not cheap. Do I have any other recourse? It is incredibly frustrating that I will have to pay $200 out of my own pocket to get another set of mats due to their mistake.
2019-10-23 02:34:59
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Im sorry that happened to you. That really sucks. Its standard procedure that beyond the 1st day after you received your car back they shouldn t be responsible as there s no way to prove that they actually lost them vs. an infinite number of other possibilities. This applies to every other single car repair shop or dealer. Otherwise people can come back 6 months later and just claim something is missing from their car.
2019-10-23 02:38:39
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Tesla Service Experience Feedback
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Prospective NJ buyers who missed $5k rebate what s your plan? Anyone waiting for summer 2021?
My mom was about to order her Model Y after much encouragement from me the last few months. Saw today that the NJ state $5k incentive expired two days ago :( Their site also says “electric vehicles purchased or leased after December 15 2020 and before the launch of the point-of-sale program in summer 2021 will not receive an incentive through the Charge Up New Jersey Program due to lack of available funding.” Wondering if folks are waiting until summer 2021 now or if there any crazy alternatives (take over someone else s purchase order??)
2020-12-17 22:14:40
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Wait until the program starts back up. It may not be the same but something is better than nothing.
2020-12-17 23:35:24
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EV Tax Credit Information
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Hopeful New Tesla Owner
Hey all I ve recently become obsessed with the idea of owning a Tesla and have been working to make it a reality. Because of my budget and price range I have been sitting in the camp of hopeful future Model 3 owners. However every once in a while I see a listing like [this one](https: www.cars.com vehicledetail detail 694589384 overview ) and can t help but wonder if it s a better deal. Could any of you lovely people give me a TL DR of the different Model S s and what I would be missing out if I purchase a base model like the one I linked? Would I still be able to use auto-pilot and are there any glaring concerns of purchasing a used Tesla?
2017-03-15 14:43:46
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this model is too old for autopilot. it also seems to be too good a price to be true but who knows.
2017-03-15 15:20:09
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla Charging Map
from my understanding Tesla uses Google Maps for its Navigation with a overlay for its Charging Stations. &amp #x200B my question is this available on the desktop or only inside our cars? Id like to look at trips and how I could plan it out with charging stations. I just dont want to sit in my car to do it.
2019-06-03 13:45:54
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[https: abetterrouteplanner.com ](https: abetterrouteplanner.com )
2019-06-03 13:51:02
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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SR+ vs LR RWD Model 3 0-60
Was looking to buy a SR+ M3 and went go test drive one yesterday but all they had was a LR RWD. The Tesla rep said that the 0-60 times for both are very similar and it s hard to notice any difference. Looking online it s hard to find official 0-60 numbers for the LR RWD since it s been taken off the Tesla website but I ve seen people reporting that it s less than 5 seconds (compared to 5.6 seconds on the SR+). Does anyone know where I can find the official numbers?
2019-05-05 21:18:40
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4.9 to 5 seconds for the LR RWD
2019-05-05 21:21:04
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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How Well Does Autopilot Behave While A Model X Is Towing?
Looking for feedback from current Model X owners on how well autopilot is working when towing. EDIT: https: forums.tesla.com forum forums autopilot-and-towing-trailer-any-complications-trailer-reverse-assist-future &gt From the manual: &gt In Trailer Mode the following Model X features are disabled: &gt • Autosteer. &gt • Autopark. &gt • Traffic-Aware Cruise Control increases the following distance from the car in front of you. &gt • Park Assist (rear). &gt • Smart Air Suspension will not make speed-based adjustments from STANDARD to LOW. &gt Towing a Trailer &gt • Smart Air Suspension does not make automatic height adjustments based on saved location-based settings. &gt • Side collision warnings are active but automatic steering interventions are disabled.
2016-10-24 21:07:52
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Autopilot is not available when towing.
2016-10-24 21:42:09
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Questions for Model 3 Owner
[discussion] Good Morning! Going to see a Model 3 Owner and make a video on the Model 3 Today was wondering if anyone had any good questions I could ask the owner that will be in the video later Thanks Enjoy your Sunday!
2017-10-29 14:33:58
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Has he had the chance to do any road trips yet? I ve seen the suspension being described as sporty . How comfortable is it for driving extended periods of time? Can he compare the ride quality to his previous car?
2017-10-29 14:45:19
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Any Tesla drivers here done a trans Europe roadtrip?
If so how was it? How much time did you spend charging the car how fast were you driving on the autoroutes etc? Would you do it again? I have often gone Geneva -&gt Calais in an infernal combustion engine and was wondering how a Tesla would fare.
2016-02-13 20:17:51
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Check out Bjørn Nyland on YouTube. He has a ton of roadtrip videos. In the older videos he has a harder time finding charging compared to now. The Tesla supercharger network really has come a long way in a short amount of time :)
2016-02-13 21:15:11
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Model X with 2 car seats and 2 big kids
- We have the 7-seat configuration. - We have a large 14yo scrawny 11yo almost 2yo and will have an infant due June Questions: - Do you have recommendations for the infant car seat? The almost 2yo will be front-facing by the time the new baby is born. - Should the infant car seat be in the middle to make it easier to get into the back when we re all in the car?
2019-02-07 20:27:09
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So I ve [got four car seats](https: i.imgur.com aHTwj2O.jpg) in my Model X though admittedly it s the 6 seater so possibly a bit different. I d say the newborn seat goes in the 40% in the center row. Next to that is the large 14yo on the 60 section. In the back you d have scrawny 11yo behind the newborn and forward facing 2yo next to them (behind 14yo). Reasoning is this. You can put the infant seat in the 40% second in the middle that s easy. You can t put the 2yo in the middle now or it wouldn t tilt forward but you shouldn t put the 2yo behind the newborn until they can buckle themselves (Or possibly if the 11yo could do it). Then the scrawny 11yo in the back because the rear seats aren t very large and then large 14yo in the middle next to baby. I d say you could swap the 11yo and 2yo in the back seat if 11yo doesn t mind helping buckle 2yo every time problem is if you don t have 11yo with you then it s a PITA to try to buckle 2yo in the rear seat when you can t fold down the middle seat because of baby. So anyways definitely doable hope that helps!
2019-02-07 22:09:39
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Model 3 Seat Impressions
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Why is no one talking about the CT front camera?
Just that. Everyone keeps talking about everything else on the truck besides that. How is Tesla vision when parking is it better estimating distance now. Any new features? Stuff like that. If there is a video form someone out there covering it yet please link. Not finding anything as of yet.
2023-12-01 19:45:57
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[https: www.youtube.com watch?v=XxOh12Uhg08&ab\_channel=MarquesBrownlee](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=XxOh12Uhg08&ab_channel=MarquesBrownlee) He shows it off and how it cleans the camera.
2023-12-01 23:39:59
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Issues with Sentry Mode
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Wall Charger Cost Comparison
Hello Reddit! I have recently ordered my model 3 and don t yet have a VIN but I have gone ahead and purchased the wall charger in advance of needing it. Lucky too since I am told they are now back ordered because of the spike in demand. I am looking to get it installed and have called up the suggested electricians from Tesla. The installation is very simple my electrical box is on the outside left of my garage and I want the wall connector to hang right behind it on the inside left of my garage. Unfortunately the quotes I have gotten so far are nearly $500 for what I would think is a $300 job at most. I wanted to see if anyone else has some further cost comparisons for me with this simple installation since I haven t seen a direct comparison when searching this sub. Thanks! Edit: Sorry Wall Connector not Wall Charger
2018-07-09 15:04:51
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Do you need a wall charger? Many are installing a NEMA 14-50 outlet which is around $20 in parts at a hardware store then using their mobile connector to charge. You called a list of electricians provided by Tesla. This list was built for people who have expensive homes and expensive cars (Model S X around $90k average I m guessing). Not only can these customers afford a $500 quote but the electricians likely have to accommodate special requests or extra attention to detail. Why not call electricians not on their list? You can get a quote for a NEMA 14-50 and skip the wall charger. You ll save $500 not getting a wall charger plus if you re right $200 in labor savings.
2018-07-09 15:14:40
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Getting my Tesla repaired from a small fender bender has already taken 3 weeks with no end in sight
And the repair shop is still waiting on parts. Very frustrating. There s only a single Tesla qualified repair shop in Miami and whenever I call they tell me they re still waiting on eight parts from Tesla. Got hit by a guy backing up in a parking lot (thankfully no one injured) and it appeared to be a very small incident but once I took it in they told me that part of the radiator had been affected the headlight needs to be swapped out and so does the part between the wheel and the bumper. I only took it in because every time I turned the wheel I would hear a scraping sound and luckily the parking lot attendant witnessed the accident and called the police so insurance is paying -- but it s turning into a month-plus more than $5 000 repair and so frustrating that Tesla is slow on sending the necessary parts. Anyone else have a similar experience or is this an outlier?
2016-12-18 20:12:34
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Unfortunately that s common enough. It s a decent bet that any body work will take at least a month mostly from waiting on parts from Tesla. They seem to prioritize new vehicle production as opposed to shipping parts to current owners and it s not like there are any third parties making body parts you can use.
2016-12-18 20:45:20
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Tesla Service Experience Feedback
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Does anyone know why there are no superchargers in Nebraska? (Couple other states too)
I was looking at the supercharger map and STILL no chargers in Nebraska. It s like a supercharger desert right in the middle of the country. Also all of I-80 runs thru that state which is a coast to coast highway. Did Nebraska ban chargers there or something? I see Arkansas and North Dakota are on the list - but I grew up in Nebraska so I m a bit more curious about it specifically. [Supercharger map](http: supercharge.info )
2016-04-19 01:33:35
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Do people live there...? On purpose?
2016-04-19 01:35:26
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Why I think the production Model X interior is already still could be better than the concept.
So I just watched Bjørn s video about the Model X configurator and he mentioned a concern with the seats and the windshield. I think some other people might notice the dash instead of being unique is the same as in the Model S. So what gives? We ve all heard Elon say that the production version has to be better than the concept but if you think about it that s a relatively vague and subjective statement that maybe got left to simmer with all of our vibrant imaginations for a little too long. After looking closely at the images I think there are still some surprises and after thinking about what I really want in a car interior I had to slightly readjust my concept of better but in the end I think Elon kept his word. It may not be as edgy as we were expecting but here s why I think the production interior is indeed already and still *possibly* better than the concept: That HUGE Windshield: On the concept the windshield was already one huge front piece that reached all the way back to the falcon doors anyway but much of it was covered up from the inside with a thick layer of upholstered roof material and structure while being blacked out on top. Eliminating the upholstery here takes full advantage of all that gorgeous glass and if the rumors about the electrostatic tinting are true it will be entirely practical by blocking light when wanted *and* increasing headroom by about 3-4 inches. Still not cheap to replace in fact even more expensive with electroshades but who knows it may also be nearly bulletproof in order to pass crash tests and as a standard option there s no way around that little detail. In any case expensive or not this is the one feature that is decidedly much more concepty in execution than even the concept itself was. Lots of concepts have done this but so far no production vehicles have actually delivered on front glass that extends uninterrupted up past your upper peripheral vision. It should be quite dramatic in person. The not-so-brand-new dash: The concept dash was nice but those vents were not directional at all and to make them directional would have compromised the look significantly. The bumped up screen was cool but can you imagine if someone accidentally grasped onto that upper portion during a ludicrous mode launch? With forces like that it could get ripped right off and to reinforce it enough might result in an unrealistic weight penalty for the sheer design aspect. The embedded screen is just more practical and without the differences in the vents and the screen the rest of the dash may as well be the same. It really is still just as elegant as it was when it was new and the lighting is tasteful. I am personally not a fan of colored fiber optic ambient lighting or too many facets and seams in a dash. In my opinion already better. The Seats: There are several things different about the seats I ll cover each one: Headrests- The concept distinctly had adjustable headrests on the middle row while the production interior does not appear to. The rear production seats do appear to have adjustable removable headrests which might be a serious rear visibility issue otherwise since they are set exactly within the gaps in the middle row headrests. As for the middle and front seats I don t think the weight penalty would justify the adjustable headrest. The headrests are quite tall enough and it s not like making them go lower would be really that important compared to the weight of the solid metal reinforcements you need to make them extend while still being safe. Already better. Middle Reclining Seats- So the concept had reclining middle seats with controls on the seat to go front or back and another toggle switch on the seat back that controlled the recline angle. What is actually different on the production version however is that the toggle style forward backward switch has now morphed into a single piece seat shaped mechanism which I believe has more than a two way function otherwise it could still just be the same two arrow toggle switch. The seat shaped switch however could rock back and forth to control recline angle while pushing forward or back to control the seat position on the track. The front seats have a two piece switch with a separate back support and seat but I think that may just be because the front seat bottoms have seat *height* control where the middle seats would probably not thus allowing for the single piece switch to control both recline and front back position which is more elegant and ergonomic than the separate switch on the back support. Can you imagine reaching back over your shoulder to hit the recline switch? That would just be weird so ~~I m glad~~ I hope they fixed that with the new lower switch design. I would also note that the design of the production middle seats does not *necessarily* appear to have any rigid connections between the seat and back support. What would be the pivot point between the rigid back and seat bottom is obscured by the mounting armature on the side and from the angle shown in the configurator there could still be a flex point in the upholstery. The front seats do have more of a distinct separation but again this could be because of a greater range of articulation than the middle seats will demand. One thing for sure though is that the concept had a single piece back row back support whereas the production version clearly has those back supports in a split folding configuration. So the middle row probably *might* be better and the back row is definitely better in the folding reclining department. Contrasting Color Overall Design- That contrasting color middle row I think only works in black and white. It would be much harder to pull off with tan black or grey black combinations which are most common. Also the concept seats had about ZERO side bolstering whereas the production seats appear to be relatively deep dish and comfy. Better. So there you have it. Sorry Bjørn I do not mean to nitpick at you but in this case I think you would be glad to be wrong about the seats and after all you won a free Model X so you re still good right? Can t wait to see the delivery videos! Edit: For reference - The concept interior: http: blog.caranddriver.com wp-content uploads 2014 09 2015_tesla_model_x_107-626x382.jpg And production http: www.caradvice.com.au wp-content uploads 2015 09 tesla-model-x-interior.jpg
2015-09-03 07:32:16
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Many cars have screens sticking out of the dash. They probably used the same one as the Model S to reduce part costs. It s a lower volume vehicle than the Model S so using the same dash makes sense since they also have to be made for LHD and RHD variants. I feel like at some point the screen sticking out on the top is something they ll want to incorporate into both vehicles since it s more aesthetically pleasing with the illusion of more empty space. Headrests: It s simply cheaper to make fixed headrests. It saves costs like you said to not design the metal frame to support the mechanism. Frankly this isn t a big compromise if costs have to be cut somewhere but fixed headrests are quite objectively not better than adjustable ones from a comfort standpoint. The backrests on the seats we ve seen are almost certainly fixed. And I don t think the fabric would have a flex point. If they could recline it would simply make more sense to have a joint like you see in the front and 3rd row seats. I do agree that the seats could still recline as a whole along with the seat bottom through that switch. For folding I m rooting for the idea that the seats slide all the way back and then lean forward with the whole seat lying face down. I agree with the rest.
2015-09-03 11:01:20
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Replacing Tesla M3 LR AWD Tires ( First Experience )
Hello World Today I got my tires replaced and figured I d do a little write up about my experience through the process. I purchased my 2018 M3 LR AWD at the beginning of Feb 2019. It came with the Michelin MXM4 s and I was able to stretch those out to 37 500 miles. I don t have a lead foot but about 4 months ago when I measured the tread on my tires I found them to be about 3 32 I said screw it and have been punching the accelerator hard ever since. I searched online to find out what types of tires my 18” stock rims could take and came across this famous article: [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments d5q0z9 version\_2\_comparison\_of\_best\_model\_3\_compatible ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments d5q0z9 version_2_comparison_of_best_model_3_compatible ) I then proceeded to go to my local Costco and get their opinion on what tires I should order. They provided me with the following list: &amp #x200B * MICH PRIMACY TOUR A S 235 45R18 98V XL * $212.99 per tire + 19.99 installation package * $850 is the total the person wrote on the printout. * 55k mile warranty * MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE + 235 45R18 98Y XL * $209.99 per tire * $840 is the total the person wrote on the printout. * MICHELIN X-ICE SNOW 245 40R18 97H XL * $234.99 per tire * No total was written. * MICHELIN PRIMACY MXM4 235 45 R18 98W XL * $271.99 per tire * $1148 is the total the person wrote on the printout. There was a $110 dollar off sale for Michelin tires at the register. I like Michelin so I decided to stay with the brand I know. Note that these printouts were obtained over 2 visits to the Costco Tire center from different desk clerks. This specific Costco is known for doing tire changes on Teslas so I wasn t worried about them lifting my car as I see them with teslas in the tire bay every time I am nearby. One thing to note is that they were really against me ordering the CrossClimate + tires.. I live near Indianapolis Indiana USA so it isn t like we don t have some okay winters here. They specifically mentioned that they were concerned about the wear for such a tire on a heavy Tesla. Sadly none of that mattered as Costco is apparently out of all of the above tires and so was Michelin when they called them. The only one they knew they could get was the MXM4s and I didn t want to replace them with the same tire I got from Tesla. So I left to “think about it”. A few days later I called my local Discount Tire and told them I am interested in the CrossClimate +. Without griping or pushback the person on the phone looked up the tires found some at a store in Texas and told me they could ship them here and install them. I took the bait ordered the tires and had them installed during a walk-in appointment this morning. **Invoice Details:** [Discount Tire Invoice Screenshot](https: preview.redd.it p8xfib9f0hu51.png?width=642&amp format=png&amp auto=webp&amp s=01ed1c3947b18e7e196f274c52783b5708e7b1bf) **Total Cost:** $1040.59 The comfort level is up and I don t notice a difference in noise levels. When driving the car I can feel the rolling resistance. It feels a lot grippier than the stock tires but it could just be because I went from bald to new. I m not sure about the efficiency or the wear over time but I m interested in finding out. The car is set to Chill Mode with Standard Steering and that is the way I plan on keeping it until it gets down to 3 32s again. Have you replaced your tires yet? What kinds of tires did you go with? Do you think the Mich CrossClimate + s were a good decision? LMK in the comments below. **UPDATE Dec 5th 2020:** After 1626 miles on my CC+ I am seeing an average usage of 306 Wh mi. This feels like a lot but it nice in the current climate. I noticed I end my local trips (less than 15 miles) at around 280 Wh mi and my long trips (around 3 hours) at 335 Wh mi. Not super scientific as my heat usage is a lot not having an Octovalve. Tread Depth Data Point: Passenger Rear: 7mm Passenger Front: 8mm Driver Front: 7mm Driver Rear: 7mm [Link to Tire Replacement Trip](https: imgur.com a eXkUlhf) **UPDATE Dec 6th 2020:** [Engineering Explained made a video](https: youtu.be PT2odY3C6Og) about these tires. Apparently there is a new version called the Cross Climate 2.
2020-10-21 16:07:41
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Sorry did you say... Chill mode? You lost me.
2020-10-21 16:56:47
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Model Y Wheel Options
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I ll trade a 60 logo for a P100D logo. Must be real. Or I ll paypal you to send me your 60 logo if you debadged and have one lying around.
My customer wants a 60 logo on his p100d. He likes to keep a low profile.
2017-04-10 19:54:56
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Dude should just debadge altogether.
2017-04-10 19:56:57
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Tesla Model Comparison
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Marketing opportunity physics
Hello this is mostly aimed at any Tesla reps who come on here I ve also emailed tesla Uk. I have come up with a cunning marketing opportunity for you having seen a very pretty model S driving around my city. I work as a Physics teacher at an independent school in the north of England. We have lots of very affluent parents and do lots of promotion and marketing across the whole north of England. I was wondering whether you would consider sending a car during our next open day or at another time convenient to yourselves both as a learning opportunity for our young physicists and equally as a marketing opportunity for Tesla UK? This would enable hundreds of potential customers to see the car in the flesh and perhaps even chat to your marketing representative if you were to send one along. The majority of our parents are in a financial position in which they are able to regularly buy high end cars. I d love to see some of that business go towards growing your company so that Elon has more money for rockets! What do you think? All it needs is to park a car at the school for say a morning. If it tempts even one parent to place an order that s got to be time well spent wouldn t you say? Thanks for your time.
2015-04-03 22:51:44
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Maybe try one of there contacts? http: www.teslamotors.com contact
2015-04-04 02:50:40
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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How to use the Model 3 Door handles!
Since a lot of you guys were talking about how bad the Model 3 door handles are and you would need two hands to open the door here you can look and learn how to use them like a normal person... [Youtube](https: youtu.be hKxsmQXfmFo?t=5m51s) -Thanks Austin Evans
2018-01-07 01:55:33
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thumb on thick part rest of hand on thin pull. anyone using two hands is in need of assistance.
2018-01-07 01:58:31
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Model 3 phone key issues
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Where can I find an up-to-date and accurate number of EV sales consumed per manufacturer concerning the U.S. EV tax credit?
The IRS has [a site with some data](https: www.irs.gov businesses irc-30d-plug-in-electric-drive-motor-vehicle-credit-quarterly-sales) but it s pretty sad and bad. Isn t there a real list somewhere?
2016-08-27 01:40:41
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Hi. For Tesla specific data click [HERE](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Vobg29R1t3FphlWjb8dwG4nkAWqyc_qMwkCjUT8SUno pubhtml?gid=1805961368&amp single=true&amp chrome=false) and scroll all the way to the right. On the last column you will find a daily counter. Today it shows 87 344 units.
2016-08-27 03:19:53
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Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration
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Tesla Build Quality Already Better than the Competition
A China [quality survey](https: twitter.com MoneybaII_R status 1583310020141203456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1583310020141203456%7Ctwgr%5Efd3da64134bc1a4f920092b75919a725367a1a02%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&amp ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.teslarati.com%2Ftesla-model-y-china-reliability-quality-survey%2F) got some traction recently showing Tesla at the top in quality ratings for Model Y and Model 3 compared to Chinese NEVs (basically BEV PHEV and FCEV). I had just assumed that the same did not hold in the US because we keep seeing Tesla come out near the bottom of quality surveys like [JD Power](https: www.jdpower.com business press-releases 2022-us-initial-quality-study-iqs). But if you look at the fine print that s wrong. Build quality is also better than average for BEVs in the US: &gt ICE vehicles average 175 PP100 PHEVs average 239 PP100 and **BEVs—excluding Tesla models—average 240 PP100. (Tesla models average 226 PP100** and are shown separate from the BEV average because the predominance of Tesla vehicles could obscure the performance of the legacy automakers that have recently introduced BEVs.) Tesla has 226 issues per 100 vehicles while other BEVs hav 240 issues per 100 vehicles. We have been comparing Tesla with ICE vehicles: a new rapidly iterating technology vs an old slowly iterating technology. Reliability measured in terms of defect rates is strongly correlated with being able to do the same thing over and over with as little variation as possible. But in the BEV world Tesla and everyone else is ramping up brand new products and trying new stuff constantly. Over time the greater simplicity of BEV architecture will win out and as the innovation rate slows down the defect rate will be even lower than for ICE. But right now BEV is more innovative and experimental and build quality suffers. For everyone. But Tesla s greater experience and volume already puts it ahead. The others are playing catch up on quality as well as on price and volume for BEV. But I have never once heard this discussed. Has it been? If not how did we all miss what was hiding in plain sight? And yes I get and accept the argument that the competition includes ICE. I was trying to make a provocative headline to bring attention to what seems like a neglected point.
2022-10-24 19:19:48
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Having both owned a 2020 Fremont made Model 3 and a 2021 china made Model Y the model Y is way better made than the Fremont made car
2022-10-24 20:42:27
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla Energy has now failed to reinstall my equipment nor return my equipment to me since May 6
I bought a Tesla Energy solar system and had it installed in early February 2019. This included 29 solar panels 2 powerwalls an energy gateway sub panel and additional wiring conduit. I received my Permission To Operate in late March and I was online and producing power immediately. The Powerwalls were great as I was constantly running off solar or Powerwall energy and the outages in the summer of 2019 in California never affected me. Due to life circumstances I moved into a new house in March 2020. In December 2019 Tesla offered a Relocation Contract that would: - Remove the solar panels from my old house as well as all electrical work and Powerwalls. - Repair the roof penetration points restoring my roof to new on the old house. - Reinstall the solar panels and Powerwalls at my new house once I was in. COVID-19 came along and my Relocation was pushed back due to social distancing and health concerns. May 6 Tesla finally sent someone to perform an inspection and survey on my roof to determine where how to install my panels. In this new house it came with 12 solar panels pre-installed (which there was no way to avoid so I was forced to buy 12 new solar panels). I informed Tesla that I would remove the existing panels (the 12 panels already here) and relocate them later. This should make way for Tesla to install my 29 panels and get everything working again. Once in my house and in the weeks after since Tesla was unable to relocate the panels or even do a survey until May 6 I decided to keep the panels I have and instead install the Tesla panels around the existing panels. I also had an electrically insulated patio cover installed in my back yard which I intended to make use of for holding additional solar panels one way or another. After May 6 the person I was speaking to at Tesla became less responsive and when we did talk she informed me that suddenly Tesla couldn t install the panels on my roof unless the removal of my old 12 panels also included a re-roof otherwise they could not warranty the workmanship and guarantee the roof. I asked if I needed to re-roof the entire roof or just repair the solar mounting points (which another contractor quoted me the removal along with repair of roof). She couldn t give a specific Yes you must re-roof your entire roof and the Estimate for the other work (removal of the 12 panels) specifically said: Seal penetrations on the roof. Apparently this was insufficient for Tesla and never clarified what re-roof required. I requested to speak to someone else at Tesla Energy or even a supervisor that could give me a definitive answer of what needed to happen if I wanted Tesla to fulfill and execute the Relocation contract. To date no more information has been given. I realized I was over-spending to relocate the panels if Tesla couldn t even give me a straight answer on why a reinstallation was currently lagged. They also implied repeatedly that my site and survey were handed to their Engineering team for review but I have never been showed a proposal or any correspondence from their Engineering department which makes me think they never reviewed it in the first place. In the lack of communication I decided to move on and start looking for contractors to install my 29 Tesla solar panels on my roof patio cover or wherever they can produce energy. I requested that Tesla return my equipment to me considering it is my property which I am still paying for and have alerted the loan company that Tesla right now is in possession of my equipment with no plan and no date for returning my equipment. I m not yet ready to say it s stolen but it s certainly my property not in my possession. So now June 18 I attempted to contact Tesla Energy s main groups and ask when I ll get my equipment back. What was explained to me (by a tech support person so perhaps they re mis-stating) is Tesla doesn t do deliveries and they re trying to figure out logistics on how to deliver my equipment to me when doing an installation elsewhere. I have not been offered a way to pick up my equipment which a U-haul rental and a few hours of work I d have my property back to me. My initial Tesla installation went well but communication with Tesla Energy has never been a positive experience. Once I accepted my proposal in 2019 the installation went very quickly as I am discovering Tesla Energy is no different than the other solar installers: they make you a priority if you re buying equipment for installation but any other work seems to take a back seat when it comes to communication or execution. I m still shopping for a contractor to perform my installation of equipment but obviously I need the equipment back so I can get an accurate quote. Tesla seems unwilling to return my equipment OR complete an installation which I signed a contract for and they now seem to be backing out of. I ve paid for my Tesla solar system from February 2020 to now and it s sat in a warehouse undisclosed to me with no plans or information on when I can see it s return as if they have no interest whatsoever. My next step is likely to contact legal help since their disinterest in returning my equipment is now depriving me not only of their functionality but also the opportunity to find someone to perform the work they refuse to formally back out of but also refuse to perform. TL DR: Tesla Energy has had my equipment since February surveyed my house in May and to date has failed to complete a relocation contract won t return my equipment to me won t facilitate me coming to get my own equipment and has left me at a standstill that may require legal intervention. I m on my 2nd Model X and I am completely satisfied with my vehicle as I was satisfied with the performance of my solar panels and Powerwalls when they were installed and working. The fact that this has gone on this long makes me think that even with Tesla re-acquiring SolarCity they are not being managed or led in a meaningful way.
2020-06-18 23:12:52
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On the one hand at least Tesla Energy is consistent with Tesla Motors. On the other hand unfortunately the consistency is in how shitty they are at customer interaction.
2020-06-18 23:17:46
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Issues with Tesla Energy Installation
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Spotify HiFi
Spotify just announced HiFi. I m an Apple Music person and I prefer Apple Music - interface integration with everything etc… - but I found this interesting nonetheless: [Five Things to Know About Spotify HiFi — Spotify](https: newsroom.spotify.com 2021-02-22 five-things-to-know-about-spotify-hifi ) I know Spotify s integration with Tesla in the past has been iffy but got a major upgrade a few months ago. I m curious what you guys think of the possibility of HiFi being supported in a Tesla. That would make the monthly Premium connectivity subscription more useful and would sound amazing I think.
2021-02-22 19:08:45
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❤️ Spotify. It s just seamless and works everywhere. I very much doubt this makes any difference thought..
2021-02-22 19:25:48
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Spotify Integration Analysis
17,685
Was there a club ride in Lower Mainland BC today?
as the title suggests I drove passed 17 model S s going through Mission BC this afternoon curious if there was some sort of club ride or maybe going to a car show?
2016-04-17 22:05:35
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Yup. We had a meetup in Hope. Some of us started in Vancouver rounded up some more in Mission then went to the Hope Supercharger.
2016-04-18 02:13:03
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Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions
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Window tinting for model 3
Debating on tinting my 2021 Sr+ model 3 however I heard some horror stories about tinting the windshield and water ruining the electronics at the front. Has anyone experienced this or been able to tint the front windshield without issues?
2020-12-16 03:37:45
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I work at a great reputable auto customization shop. We tint Model 3 s on the daily basis. We use special towels and protective tools to keep any water from running down to electronics and take great caution when inside customers vehicles. I would suggest doing research on tint shops around your area and picking the one with the best reputation and reviews.
2020-12-16 03:42:48
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Ceramic Coating Application Process
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Aero Wheel Cap Kit Price Increased by $50..
Still out of stock: https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-3-aero-wheel-cap-kit.html
2018-03-23 01:58:05
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Dang. The people that got them the first time got a deal!
2018-03-23 02:05:54
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Model Y Wheel Options
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How many of you Model 3 reservation holders will be disappointed if you don t get a delivery experience ?
I recall seeing a few threads back in the day of people not satisfied with their delivery experience. I guess I can see their side if they paid $100K+ for a car. I m not that kind of person at all though. Just gimme the damn thing so long as the car itself is not jacked up. Frankly I d much rather them drop the thing right off the truck at my house I sign for it dude leaves. Just like amazon baby. I m curious though how many people out there need or are expecting that pampering you d normally get during a delivery process?
2017-03-17 21:45:54
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It would be cool if they incentivized learning on your own. Choose your delivery experience 1) Up to 1 hour with a trained Tesla staff member 2) Just gimme the car - Free T Shirt included.
2017-03-17 21:59:25
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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Concerned: Software Development Focus &amp Direction
I am curious the communities thoughts on the overall software development direction Tesla is heading at this point and the possible drivers behind it. I am not sure if I am in the minority or not but I found the Atari Arcade games to be a fun relatively low resource required addition to the vehicles that was part of a greater improvement set to the overall interface when introduced earlier in the year. We have since moved on to a wide scale complex games and entertainment focus that require far more memory logging and resource investment. I am concerned that this competing objective is reducing focus on things that add more practical utility to the vehicle interface and that for me personally add more value things like... 1. Waypoint Navigation Functionality 2. More Accurate Stable Rendering of animation 3. US Spotify Integration 4. Improved NoA AutoPark performance 5. Further Improved Web Browser Performance I am not opposed to further entertainment additions I just wonder if resources are being diverted away from these other areas which at least to me are far more important and need improving. I also wonder if this could be part of a larger strategy to woo new customers by word of mouth that Netflix can be watched in the car as impact is much higher than reporting a virtually flawless AutoPark experience. On the flip side I wonder if we are tapped out and there is not much left to offer in the Autopilot Interface Performance area. After FSD was redefined I began to have this sinking feeling we could be reaching a plateau here with respect to what is currently possible. In a nutshell I d like to see a far greater focus on interface and performance vs entertainment if resources are limited. EDIT: Appreciate the thoughts and discussion it seems this is a sensitive subject for some and there are some very valid observations below which I appreciate. I just hope we continue to see real improvement in the more substantive areas like AP performance and the user interface. Hopefully various entertainment additions do not just become “smoke and mirrors” to distract from these other priorities because of development limitations capabilities and people start seeing more ROI particularly on the FSD front. Hopefully there are people working on upgrade paths to support older vehicles with packs feature offerings and in car electronics to further drive sustainability.
2019-09-16 14:21:10
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I would be the developers doing anything with nav ap are totally different than gaming. I don t think it is and either or. The AP and nav stuff are much more complex issues vs porting some games. Hey could be spending 95% on FSD nav and 5% on games and still make way more progress on games. Like any business if you can get the low hanging fruit you do that while the big stuff is worked on behind the scenes. Keep in mind AP FSD nav is the game changer for the industry. They know the importance of it.
2019-09-16 14:30:35
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Autopilot will turn left in intersections.
I was just driving and I was at a stop light in a left turn lane. There are two lanes that turn left. There are two cars ahead of me and none in the adjacent turn lane. I have AP enabled so it can start moving for me. I let it do its thing instead of disabling. It went all the way through the turn and it told me to tug on the wheel at the end of the turn instead of freaking out. Pretty cool. It s an AP 2.0 car with 2018.42.2
2018-11-02 02:09:42
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Doesn t always work but when it does it s pretty cool! As long as you pay close attention it s really fun to test Autopilot at its limits. You really see the progress the team is making from update to update!
2018-11-02 02:15:05
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Model X bike rack
Tesla uses Yakima FullTilt bike rack as OEM accessory. Yakima also has FullSwing bike rack that swing out to allow access to trunk without having to take bikes off the rack. Model X hitch has 120 lb weight limit. FullTilt Tesla OEM rack is 40 lbs and FullSwing rack is 59 lbs. I do need to carry up to 4 bikes so I do need to pay attention to the weight of the rack. Anyone has experience with Yakima FullSwing rack vs Yakima FullTilt Tesla OEM rack?
2018-06-10 23:18:12
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The 120lbs weight limit is only for the accessory hitch (1.25 ) they briefly offered. If your car has the towing hitch 2 receiver then the weight is 500lbs. You should be good to go with either unit
2018-06-11 00:20:49
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Hitch Bike Rack Review
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Autopilot on german roads?
Hey r teslamotors I am living in germany and considering buying a used model s to use as my primary vehicle. Does anybody have experience with a Tesla the Autopilot system on german roads and would be willing to share their experiences? Thank you =)
2017-09-28 16:00:18
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I own in the US but live in both Germany and the US. Autopilot loses some of its appeal in Germany. At the moment Autopilot performs best on highways where traffic is traveling at uniform speeds. The Autobahn is much more complex than US highways. Traffic in the left lane can be twice as fast as the right lane. Using Autopilot to change lanes on the Autobahn isn t a great idea - the car cannot see far enough back to decided a) is it safe to change lanes and b) how hard should I accelerate after changing lanes? Autopilot also does well in stop and go traffic. However a lot of traffic (stau) on the Autobahn is from an accident where everyone comes to a complete stop for a few hours. Autopilot will still be great for traffic caused by construction. Autopilot does work on city streets but it needs a lot more supervision. I generally don t use it on unfamiliar roads as the Autopilot will sometimes do something really stupid. There s less room for error on roads so use caution. I cannot wait for the day when a computer is smart enough follow the Autobahn rules without human interaction. But for now the constant lane changing and speed changes needed to drive on the Autobahn are best done by humans. Sure - you can park behind a truck doing 100kmh and let the Autopilot do it s thing but that s not why you chose a performance car. Also driving at over 160kmh uses a lot of energy. You will spend a good deal more time at charging stations if you like to drive fast. In the US I average 3 hours of driving for 30 minutes of charging. In Germany I imagine it would look more like 1.5 hours of driving for 30 minutes of charging. PS please know that Autopilot cannot see lane markings in construction sites. Autopilot just ignores the yellow orange lanes and follows the standard white lanes.
2017-09-28 16:35:20
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Buying advice CPO Model S or Model 3
Looking for advice from current owners on what might give me the best experience most for my money. I reserved my Model 3 on day one at a service center and was number 322 at that location in MN. My reservation still says deliveries in late 2017. So I might actually be able to get it this year still. I really like the look of the bigger Model S and the displays. I would not use autonomous driving or pay for it in a 3 if it was more than $2k. I really enjoy driving. I would consider the autopilot that keeps you in lane adaptive cruise but those are only nice to haves. I have about $15k saved for down payment which if I configured a 3 up to around $50k with battery tech packages pano roof then I would be paying $35k and would likely still get $7500 tax credit. However I could get a CPO 2013 or 2014 85kWh Model S for about $52 which would mean a loan of around $37k and it would have tech package pano roof dual chargers all the stuff I would want in the 3. It would not however have AP at all it looks like just cruise. So it feels like I am comparing: Model 3 for $28 $29k vs Model S for $38-$40k How is a 2013 or 14 S holding up? Anything else obvious I might be missing in looking at a CPO S vs 3? Sounds like the S will still get all the cool software features in the displays. Elon says he is sticking to the S (albeit brand new I am sure) Tell me what to do Internet.
2017-03-30 13:23:06
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If you don t care about AP get a CPO Model S. Let someone else take the hit on depreciation and enjoy a larger probably quicker and more practical car for your family now. I am a car guy enjoy driving have 2 kids in booster seats day 1 in person model 3 reservation holder and I bought a CPO P85+ last December. Barring a change of heart from the wife I ll likely cancel my 3 reservation.
2017-03-30 16:17:09
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Tesla Model 3 pricing could start at $60 000 in Australia but hinges on Autopilot
# [Tesla Model 3 pricing could start at $60 000 in Australia but hinges on Autopilot](https: thedriven.io 2019 04 16 tesla-model-3-may-be-60000 ) &gt The arrival of the Tesla Model 3 in Australia is fast approaching and the question on the lips of many a reservation holder – and there are believed to be thousands – is still this: how much will it cost? &gt &gt Musk confirmed on the weekend that [order pages for the RHD drive Model 3 will be online with weeks](https: thedriven.io 2019 04 15 tesla-model-3-becomes-all-time-best-selling-electric-car-in-us ) (and word is that this is for all RHD drive markets which includes of course Australia) setting off discussion again about where the Model 3 will fit into the (limited) Australian EV market price-wise. &gt &gt There are a number of theories although as noted by Giles Parkinson in his article on [how much the Model 3 will cost](https: thedriven.io 2019 03 04 how-much-will-a-tesla-model-3-electric-car-cost-in-australia-find-out-here ) Tesla is keeping tight-lipped. &gt &gt However an email purported to be from Tesla written to a potential Australian customer has now come to light via a Whirlpool forum post that indicates that the Model 3 may start as low as $A60 000 although it comes with a big caveat about whether auto-pilot will now come standard or remain an option. AU$60k is in the lower end of the region I expected. Taking into account the FOREX rate (70c to the $) and allowing for registration and other on-road costs the absolute minimum I would expect a Mod3 to cost would be AU$55k. Tesla has apparently missed the opportunity to add the Australia tax thankfully.
2019-04-16 19:01:55
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If I can get into the LR Dual Motor for less than 80 I m in. Otherwise it s going to be a pass I think.
2019-04-16 20:27:58
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Dashcam and Sentry Incidents while parked
If my car is parked in the street or somewhere it is susceptible to potentially being hit will the dash cam automatically record a collision or do I have to always have sentry active to capture these things? Like if the car is parked in front of the house and a car coming down the road were to side swipe it will the cameras automatically record that incident? Thank you for any new owner advice.
2021-01-19 17:26:02
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A lot of people get confused about this. Dashcam and sentry mode are two different things and have two different purposes. You ll likely want both to be on. Dashcam: records a 1 hour buffer continuously when the car is awake. Will save videos when instructed by the user or sentry mode system. Sentry mode: keeps car awake (so dashcam can stay active) and monitors the cameras for potential threats. It will enter alert or alarm state as needed. Alerts will let you know when you enter the car and will ask dashcam to save the video. Alarm will start the car alarm play music at full volume and send a notification to your phone (if enabled). It will also request dashcam to save the video. If you have dashcam on but sentry mode is off the car will record while you are driving and will save videos when you manually request it either by the icon or horn (if enabled). No videos will be recorded when you are parked and no videos will be saved even in the case of an incident. If you have sentry mode on but not dashcam no videos will be recorded but the car will still enter alert or alarm state as needed. As of a recent update the most recent sentry event will be stored internally but I wouldn t trust this.
2021-01-19 20:13:32
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Thank you to all the engineers who made design decisions on the High Power Wall Charger
I m working with an electrician to get wire run from the main breaker at my office out to a spot in the parking lot so I can charge my car while at work. As we went through this process we found a few potential issues that after consulting the HPWC manual we realized weren t issues at all! Here s what we ran into: * My workplace breaker box is 277V single phase (only one available slot). I dare you to find any other EV charger that works with 277V and costs $500. I couldn t find a single one. Tesla s just eats up any type of voltage or phase scenario you throw at it. Basically if(electricity) then(it works). * There was only enough room in the conduit out to the parking lot to run one set of wires limiting future charger installs. Solution? Tesla wall chargers are designed to allow daisy chaining of up to 4 units off of a single 277V line on a single breaker. That means we can install up to three more chargers without having to run any more wire. Again name another charger that can do this. So because of Tesla s design I m able to use our pre-existing breaker panel without any type of transformer AND I don t have to trench and lay down additional conduit. AND it s cheaper more powerful than almost any other charger. Thank you anybody at Tesla who had any part in designing this thing it s awesome. No wonder it s back-ordered 5 weeks.
2016-04-30 01:11:35
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You got the new one. I have the older model which is still pretty terrific. I m just impressed that they continue to iterate and improve on things that aren t really broken just to get them as good as possible.
2016-04-30 01:16:58
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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RWD vs AWD sales?
Does anyone know what percentage of sales for the Model S has been RWD vs AWD? I know AWD should be lower because it has been available for a shorter period of time. Which makes me wonder if only ~half of model 3 reservation holders want RWD will tesla switch the production line sooner to accommodate the demand? Or will it be a parts supply issue?
2017-06-18 05:30:15
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The 75 is a rare get. Most people get D.
2017-06-18 05:53:31
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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[Discussion] Model 3 Dashcam updates
Recently there were some articles saying that a constantly powered Blackvue would damage your 12V battery. Is anyone having success with the typical 12V install or is everyone installing dashcams with a battery? Anyone installed a Thinkware f800? TLDR: Some are still wiring to the 12V but it might create future errors but some have had them as long as 3 months with no errors. Others are wiring with a fuse and or a switch in between the battery and the camera either off the shelf fuses and flicky switches or a PMP. Some users are avoiding the model 3 system and charging with the expensive Blackvue battery hooked up to the 12V cig lighter and charging the battery while driving to feed the camera when parked. Doesn t seem to be a consensus yet on the best method. Thinkware looks bad...
2018-05-15 13:29:12
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I am debating how to install my blackvue 750s dual channel cam. From all the research I ve done so far the 12v seems to push out error messages after around 3 months. I ll probably get a battery pack and connect it to the cigarette lighter to avoid issues. Blackvue battery pack is expensive but seems to be reliable the ultra is $300 and the older model can be found for $150 on eBay which can work on parking mode for 8-12 hours. A cheaper option is to get a high quality power bank and connect the cameras to them a 20000mh Poweradd power bank has some mentions on the dash cam forums and should cost around $15-35. You want a power bank that can draw power enough power to operate the cameras and charge at the same time through the cigarette lighter.
2018-05-15 14:27:42
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Apple Music
Looks like the Taycan is getting [Apple Music](https: techcrunch.com 2019 08 19 porsche-is-integrating-apple-music-into-the-all-electric-taycan ). Sounds pretty sweet doesn t need a phone it s a native app for the Taycan ala Slacker except it isn t Slacker. I m looking forward to the competition heating things up. Who here thinks that there will be a Tesla response or preannouncement of something before or after Sept 5th?
2019-08-20 11:33:11
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I would be very happy if Tesla had a native apple music app.
2019-08-20 11:36:20
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Spotify Integration Analysis
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Tesla Model 3 - WiFi 6 and Bluetooth 5.0?
Hey all Searched Reddit and Google no results. Does anyone know if the 2021 Model 3 includes a Wi-Fi 6 chip? Also does it include Bluetooth 5.0? Does not looks like Tesla specifies this however certain routers will tell you if the device (or in the case car) connected is using WiFi 6 so if any of you have the 2021 and have a router (AmpliFi Alien router for example) you could check and see. For Bluetooth 5.0 I m not sure how you d check though... If no one here knows I will reach out to my local Tesla dealership. Thanks in advance!
2021-01-04 17:12:26
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Recent updates contain mentions of a new Wi-Fi Bluetooth module from Cypress: CYW89359 [https: twitter.com greentheonly status 1323710725668380674?s=20](https: twitter.com greentheonly status 1323710725668380674?s=20) That chipset doesn t appear to support Wi-Fi 6 (which isn t too useful in the automotive use case it s more beneficial in dense deployments).
2021-01-04 18:01:51
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Premium Package...
I find it annoying that power liftgate and lighted door handles are now only available with the $5000 premium package.
2015-04-08 15:57:52
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It looks like they jumbled up features from the tech package and premium interior package and made a Autopilot Convenience Features package and Premium Package. Things like cornering lights powered lift gate lighted door handles make the premium package much more attractive.
2015-04-08 16:27:44
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Model X: Confused about ‘Performance model vs ‘Insane Mode vs ‘Ludicrous Mode
I m shopping for a new Model X the Performance model. I have of course seen the Ludicrous mode that s a whopping $20k more. When I went to a store to test drive in the settings I saw ‘Insane and ‘Insane + (I believe that was the text on the button) which the salesman said was Ludicrous mode. It didn t seem all that fast to me and after some google searching I see ‘Insane is older and not the same. Can someone clarify? Do all performance models now come with Insane mode by default and you upgrade to Ludicrous? Or do they just still call it Insane in the car settings?
2019-05-28 16:11:53
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Let s pause for a second here and appreciate how a sub four second car does not feel all that fast . What a time to be a driver!
2019-05-28 16:40:26
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Stephane lives in Montreal with his wife and two sons
I ve got this damn pre-roll memorized.
2016-04-01 03:22:54
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Finally it changed.
2016-04-01 03:27:16
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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“Vacation Mode” in app
Given the constant confusion people have with the things you need to do before leaving your car unplugged for a long period parked somewhere (e.g. turn off Sentry Mode turn off Cabin Overheat Prevention etc. ) it would be great if there was an option in the app to put your car into a “Vacation Mode” which would do all the necessary things to minimize phantom drain automatically and also prevent the car from waking up if you open the app accidentally out of habit. This would seriously simplify the process of leaving your car somewhere without charging so you can get back to your car with as little drain as possible while you were away.
2020-03-06 11:30:25
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Or “Hibernation”. Am I the only one storing my car for the winter?
2020-03-06 14:48:22
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[Discussion] My experience ceramic coating a Model 3 (and a question regarding ONR and opti-seal)
A bit of background first: I received deliver of my Model 3 at the end of March solid black w 18 aeros. At delivery everything was perfect: no panel gaps beautiful piano black paint. What a great car very fun to drive! Very happy I sold my Lexus. I had it tinted with Wincos at Monumental Workx in San Diego per the group buy and was very happy with the results. It was my first new car and so unlike prior vehicles I wanted to make sure I maintained it diligently and properly. I read up a bit on detailing and quickly realized automatic car washes are a no-go especially for a black car. Interestingly I could not find a single touchless car wash even remotely nearby - even the high-end wash places use the standard drive-through washes. So I decided to wash it myself using the two-bucket method. I bought a nice wash mitt grit guards for my buckets and a good soap. As a new car the washing part itself was quite easy. Drying however I found to be a huge pain - it took a long time and required a new microfiber towel every 1-2 panels to get a good streak-free look (my water is very hard and will leave all sorts of marks if not perfectly dried). Side note: anyone else agree with me on this? I also noted that despite using the two-bucket method and being fairly careful when washing and drying I was developing some light scratches and swirl marks. This is when I decided to do a ceramic coat. I would have preferred a full wrap but doing so is quite expensive and I thought the ceramic coat would at least make washing easier and I would have to worry a little less about swirl marks when washing. I ve never detailed a car before but a lot of reading and youtube watching (particularly the excellent post here: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8etdd1 tesla_model_3_diy_ceramic_coating ?ref=share&amp ref_source=link) got me going. I ended up using essentially all of the exact same items from the video. Here are my thoughts: * Time to completion was indeed about 12 hours of active labor - it took me an entire weekend. Not for the faint of heart! * I told my spouse I could probably shave some time off since it was a new car and wouldn t require much polishing. Nope! * At the time I did this the car had about 800 miles on it and had been washed (two-bucket method only) three times. In direct sunlight or under bright direct light I could not believe how many scratches and swirl marks I could see! Unbelievable! If I had to order my car again I would choose a different color. * Claybar-ing was easy but at some point I noticed the clay was adding more scratches than were there before. I changed up the clay to a brand new one which helped a bit but not much. After talking to some detailers I decided to only finishing claying horizontal surfaces - which are prone to collect more dust and other unwanted elements and thus are more important to clean. * Polishing: I originally thought it wouldn t be too bad - it s a brand new car! I can do this by hand for the small number of scratches. Wrong! After I quickly realized how difficult polishing by hand was I went out and purchased a random orbital polisher (by coincidence the exact same model in the aforementioned video) and finished with that. Still took about 6 hours to polish the car and even then there were still some scratches visible in direct light. Not showroom-perfect but overall it looked quite nice. I just couldn t justify spending any more time on this step. I know this is a big no-no as the ceramic will coat whatever scratches remain but I was comfortable with my decision. * Compared to polishing prepping and coating is easy. * I purchased the Gyeon Mohs Quartz Coating 30 ml Kit and that was enough to do the entire car with three coats with the exception of the back window and wheels. I could have done the back window too but I wanted to experiment and see the difference between it and the glass roof. If I decide coating on glass is worthwhile it s easy to do the back window later. * Waiting for 24 hours without being to drive your nice super clean polished car was hard!! * Total cost with everything (including the random orbital polisher): ~$250. Lessons I wish I was told before I started: * If you care about small scratches and swirl marks just do not get solid black paint. * If you want to ceramic coat yourself do so as soon as possible after delivery of your vehicle to minimize the amount of effort required during polishing. * Pay VERY careful attention when claying. * Doing this indoor is necessary to avoid dust and other contaminants. Good lighting is a must. I bought two halogens lights but even they were not enough (though I made do). * Think carefully if you really want to spend 12 hours of active labor doing this. I m glad I did it and I learned a lot but next time I will just pay someone to do it for me. Now when I wash my car the water beads off easily and the car looks fantastic! I have not noticed any additional scratches or swirl marks from washing. Drying is a bit easier than before but still does take a long time. Overall I m very happy with the results. I ve uploaded a few pictures here: https: imgur.com a boS4u17 Now I ve decided that I d like to wash using optimal no rinse (ONR) - saves water and importantly seems easier to dry. There are two types of ONR: wash &amp rinse or wash &amp wax - the latter of which includes some wax. Is there a recommended one to use given the ceramic coating? I tried reading up on this but couldn t find a straight answer. One person on a random forum suggested using ONRWR instead of ONRWW on a coated car but I wasn t sure if this was the general consensus. I d also like to use opti-seal as a drying agent. How would this affect the coating if at all? Is it ok to put opti-seal on top of the coating as a sealant (in addition to its use as a drying agent)? Any thoughts here would be appreciated. TL DR: coating is awesome. Takes a long time to apply - don t underestimate! Want to know if ONR w opti-seal is useful for a coated car.
2018-06-29 21:34:13
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Definitely a labor of love to DIY. I had a pro shop do the ceramic and 2 stage paint correction for $1000. The finished result was worth it! Glad the DIY job worked out well for you!
2018-06-29 21:51:04
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Ceramic Coating Application Process
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Weekly Q&amp A Thread
This will post every Friday (EST) at 6AM (except for today). Use this thread to **ask one-off questions** and to have folks in the community answer. This is new so we are okay if people are unaware of it initially.
2017-08-18 18:34:39
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Is there a range calculator for the Model 3 like there is for the Model S X? [Here is the Model S one at the bottom of the page.](https: www.tesla.com models) I drive about 100 miles daily just for my work commute and here in Florida is pretty common to drive 80-85mph. How much range will I lose by driving at that speed apprx? Temperatures are usually in the 90s as well.
2017-08-19 01:04:35
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Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors
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Future possibility of Supercharger autonomous queuing
I heard people complain that sometimes superchargers are full or people have not unplugged their car and other users need to charge. I foresee on the future the ability a option (maybe forced by the super charger contract car contract) that if you wanna use a super charger you must let tesla drive your car autonomously in and out of the super charger so the stall is free when your cars has finished charging. The only missing piece would be the mechanical arm to auto connect to your car when you get into the stall and unplug your car when is done charging the new model s have motorized charge ports that can close themselves and since they are on private property the car can drive into a parking spot nearby.
2014-10-12 03:05:36
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This we need this...
2014-10-12 03:18:24
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Music glitch (that I didn t even realize was a glitch) explained.
So in the past i could ask the car to play ... by ... and it started playing the song a very impressive percent of the time. At some point my car stopped doing this entirely. I just thought it was part of an update or they lost the rights to certain songs and moved on. My husband drives my car from time to time and this really bugged him. So he did some googling and found out it was a glitch. A while back he signed into Spotify and at some point he cancelled his membership but didn t sign out of Spotify on the car first. Which caused the glitch. So he had to open a new Spotify account sign into the car and sign out before cancelling the account to fix the glitch. Works perfect again.
2020-09-05 22:52:39
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Doing dog s work
2020-09-05 23:44:06
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Spotify Integration Analysis
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Advice from owners: when do you use Summon?
I am a new Tesla MS 90D owner enjoying the release of 8.1. For those owners that have had Summon for awhile when are some times you use it? Looking for advice on practical applications of this feature.
2017-04-06 14:26:21
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Every day. I press summon as I am walking out the door the car opens the garage door and backs out to the driveway and I meet the car thats on and ready to go. I also use it if I am parked in the driveway blocking the garage I can summon backwards and the person in the garage can get out around me. If I park in a space and get out and notice I can pull up some I ll summon it forward. I can summon out of tight parking spaces when someone parks too close...etc honestly it is incredibly practical for me.
2017-04-06 14:30:17
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Issues with Smart Summon
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My 1 year old S P100D makes a rattling sound during high acceleration. Scheduled a service appointment and they say they will charge me 1 2 hour for diagnostic test drive. Is this legit?
I bought the car new end of September 2018. Within the first couple days I noticed this kind of rattling sound when I accelerate hard in sport mode. I don t hear it any other time. I don t really accelerate like that much at all so I rarely hear this and didn t think about it much I did a little searching on line and see other people have had this issue on other model S but seems like the consensus is it s kind of a cosmetic problem and not a sign the motor is going to break etc. Anyway I ve had the car for a year now and about 6500 miles and I thought I should schedule a maintenance service appointment. I did this and listed the rattling noise as one of my issues. I figure they should at least rotate the tires if nothing else. A couple days later I get a text from Tesla service telling me they will be charging 1 2 hour labor to do a diagnostic test drive but they will waive the fee if they find a defect in materials or workmanship. I feel like I shouldn t have to pay to understand why there s a weird noise coming from my car which is under warranty. Has anyone else had service try and charge them this fee? I totally expect to pay for the tire rotation but not for a warranty issue. I ve experienced so many dishonest mechanics over the last 30+ years I m worried they are either going to tell me “there s nothing wrong” or “that s totally normal” and give me a bill for a couple hundred $.
2019-11-09 01:39:21
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Based on my experience with other cars this is fairly normal. They will charge for the diagnostic investigation but if found to be a warranty issue they would remove the diagnostics charge and correct the defect. If they found the source of the rattling to be caused by the owner such as something the glovebox or trunk that wasn t secured properly they should be compensated for their time. The diagnostic charges are more about making sure people aren t wasting the technicians shops time when they could be addressing actual issues.
2019-11-09 16:54:23
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Tesla Service Experience Feedback
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7.5k CAD more for 100D? Exchange rate of $3000 USD should be $4000 CAD.
also there is a $200 difference between the S and the X?
2017-01-20 10:40:07
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Same for switzerland. Exchange rate is almost 1:1
2017-01-20 11:17:20
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Owners who upgraded from stock sound to aftermarket how did that go for you?
Looking at potentially buying a new inventory car but they built it without UHFS... 200k car shitty sound the logic escapes me. Anyways for anyone who has purchased the stock audio and later decided to upgrade it was it a hard process and was it expensive? In canada the sound upgrade is $3 500 I can t imagine anything but a top of the line system for that price (installed).
2017-01-30 15:58:30
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I haven t done it but I ve upgraded a lot of cars. I strongly recommend you buy the car and give yourself a full month before you start modding the sound. That gives you a chance to hear a wide variety of music in different environments and decide what needs to change. A lot of people run off and drop a 10 sub in a car only to find that they didn t take the time to identify the problem. Now they have too much bottom end and no highs. Here are the specs on the speakers if you want to start planning. Remember a good system has balance. Simply dropping bass into a car rarely creates a nice finished system. Speakers – Standard Audio – a total of 200 W (details from a sinn press release s1nn acquired by Harmon) and TeslaTap s rip-down). For the Model S: Door mid-woofers (4) – 160 mm 40 W each 2 ohm Front pillar tweeters (2) – 30 mm (passive) Front middle dash mid-range – 80 mm 40 W Speakers – Ultimate Audio – a total of 560 W For the Model S: Front door woofers (2) – 200 mm 80 W each 1 ohm Rear door mid-woofers (2) – 160 mm 40 W each 2 ohm Front pillar Tweeters (2) – 30 mm 20 W Dash mid-range (3) – 80 mm 40 W Hatch mounted mid-range (2) – 80 mm 40 W Passenger side rear sub-woofer -200 mm 80 W 1 ohm (in a 25-liter bass box) Source: http: teslatap.com undocumented
2017-01-30 16:23:48
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Tesla sound system comparisons
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Summon... way more useful than I thought but also a fun party trick
I haven t had summon very long since I have a 3 but going to dinner tonight I backed into a end spot where the driver side of the car was on a curb and opened right into some bushes. I couldn t get out. I pulled up got out then used summon to back it back into the spot (with the rims only inches from the curb on the driver side). Leaving the restaurant it was a quiet parking lot so I started moving the car forward as I was approaching. A small group of I m guessing 20 somethings said (according to my wife because I m oblivious a lot of the time) I didn t know anyone was in that car probably wondering why the car was leaving as me and my wife were walking up to it. Then I got into the driver seat my wife looked back (creeply good at reading lips so I take her word for it) and one of the guys saying something like Woah \*\*\*\* did you see that? I thought someone was in the car but he got in the driver seat. Next time I should take a video. I sometimes forget that most cars don t move without people in them. Yeah it just goes back and forth but what other car can you see do that at a chain restaurant parking lot late on Monday night in the suburbs of Miami?
2018-07-10 03:21:35
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Looks like they stopped rolling out the [update](http: ev-fw.com reports.php) unfortunately and only around 10&amp #37 of Model 3 s got it. Although it also looks like a newer update is rolling out so maybe I ll finally get summon here myself before too long.
2018-07-10 03:27:27
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The secret to the Model 3 s handling
I ve figured out why these two gentlemen who had the early opportunity to drive the Model 3 gave it accolades for its handling characteristics. To refresh our memory I m quoting what they said: http: www.motortrend.com cars tesla model-3 2018 exclusive-tesla-model-3-first-drive-review &gt What s blanching though is the car s ride and handling. If anybody was expecting a typical boring electric sedan here nope. The ride is Alfa Giulia (maybe even Quadrifoglio)–firm and quickly I m carving Stunt Road like a Sochi Olympics giant slalomer micrometering my swipes at the apexes. I glance at Franz—this OK? “Go for it ” he nods. The Model 3 is so unexpected scalpel-like I m sputtering for adjectives. The steering ratio is quick the effort is light (for me) but there s enough light tremble against your fingers to hear the cornering negotiations between Stunt Road and these 235 40R19 tires (Continental ProContact RX m+s s). And to mention body roll is to have already said too much about it. Sure that battery is low way down under the floor. But unlike the aluminum Model S the Tesla Model 3 is composed of steel too and this car s glass ceiling can t be helping the center of gravity s height. Nearly-nil body roll? Magic I m telling you. Magic. - Kim Reynolds Testing Director at Motor Trend https: electrek.co 2017 08 10 tesla-model-3-owner-interview &gt “Let me just say “yum yum.” It s a yum yum yum – yum yum. There it is – one of the Founder series. I have been driving it and it drives like Porsche but it cost the same as a Prius.” - Jason Calacanis Tesla Investor and early Model 3 owner The answer is PMOI. Polar Moment of Inertia. Take a look at the detailed diagrams from Tesla s first responder guides. [Here they show that the Model 3 s battery is shorter relative to the wheelbase making the battery mass more closely concentrated towards the center](https: imgur.com a PdGgr). For comparison the Model S and X batteries extend almost the same length as the wheelbase. Notice also that the Model 3 s motor is forward of the rear wheel axis (akin to a mid-engine RWD sports car) also making its mass closer to the center. For comparison the Model S and X motors are behind the rear wheel axis. The concept of PMOI is that if the mass is concentrated near the center (the axis of rotation) the better the turning and handling characteristics of the car. These diagrams clearly reveal that Tesla designed the Model 3 to have a smaller Polar Moment of Inertia. Hence the reason why the two drivers were blown away by the handling. I can t wait to get behind the wheel and I d like to request if we can get more handling validation from the current owners living this dream now. The P-AWD will be also be some kind of wonderful. The Model 3 may just be the EV canyon carver we ve been waiting for.
2017-09-26 05:37:09
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What s the version of this that a sleepy person who isn t an engineer can understand?
2017-09-26 06:23:36
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Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences
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Massive Tesla Service expansion in Europe on the way!
A lot of planned service centers just popped up on the Find Us map! Seems like they are expanding fast in Europe! [https: www.tesla.com findus?v=2&amp bounds=57.10862547255849%2C31.852273651865517%2C44.52290684660965%2C-9.961691191884483&amp zoom=6&amp search=service%2C&amp filters=service](https: www.tesla.com findus?v=2&amp bounds=57.10862547255849%2C31.852273651865517%2C44.52290684660965%2C-9.961691191884483&amp zoom=6&amp search=service%2C&amp filters=service) &amp #x200B https: i.redd.it 2l4jllskib431.png
2019-06-14 12:45:12
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Looks like it s not just Europe. This just popped up in my town (Rochester NY): [https: i.imgur.com eAgSzat.png](https: i.imgur.com eAgSzat.png) Edit: looks like it opened at the end of May. Limited hours for now and by appointment only but someone on NYS Owners Club [already had a repair done there](https: tocnys.org forum-general-repair 7529526). This is welcome news.
2019-06-14 12:50:07
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Daily Discussion + Support Thread - March 10
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2020-03-10 09:10:55
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at the showroom waiting to get my M3 i m SO EXCITED
2020-03-10 17:07:59
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“Power reduced Front motor temporarily disabled” message on Model Y
Howdy all. I ve Googled and seen this issue reported for Model 3 s but couldn t find anything for Y s. Today I drove my Model Y about one mile to the grocery store went in for about half an hour drove the mile back home and the message popped up. I scheduled an appointment in the app but the soonest is just over 2 weeks from now... Anyone seen this before and if so how concerned should I be? I.e should I not drive it until the appointment? It s my first Tesla so I m unsure how concerned I should be. Haven t even hit 800 miles driven on it yet. I m on version 2020.36.3. I ve tried powering off and waiting 5 minutes before turning the vehicle back on still get the message. Any help insight appreciated!
2020-09-13 04:29:26
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Not a Y but had it once on my 3 at about 4K miles. Only had it happen that one time and I m now at 27K miles. I never took it into SC since it was a one time event hopefully the same for you.
2020-09-13 04:35:00
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Possible changes to delivery process Model 3 vs. Model Y. Contacted by local sales representative for email of documents for my upcoming Model Y purchase.
A representative from the Owings Mills MD Tesla gave me a call today followed up by an email (from a Tesla.com account). He said that with Model Y deliveries starting next month I need to get the required documents added to my Tesla account to avoid any unnecessary delays. He asked that I email him my driver s license insurance and VIN and proof of insurance for a trade-in. This a big departure from the process I went through when purchasing my 3 in 2018. About 6 weeks before my delivery I received an email from [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) titled Next Steps for Your Model 3 Delivery which asked me to log on to my account and upload all the required documents. Then I was assigned an Inside Delivery Advisor from Las Vegas about a month later who told me about my VIN assignment. He arranged the delivery location and date. I don t think I talked to anyone from the local delivery center until a day or two before delivery and definitely didn t email them anything directly. Figured I d share my experience and I m curious if anything has changed in the general delivery process in the past 1.5 years for the Model 3 or if anyone else has gotten the same direct contact from a delivery center for the Y? I might give Tesla corporate a call tomorrow to inquire but wanted to see what others recent experiences are.
2020-02-06 02:03:42
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When did you preorder? Interesting to see that they are prepping East Coast deliveries so soon! I expected just West Coast Performance deliveries in March. Looking forward to running into some new Ys at MD superchargers soon! Congrats!
2020-02-06 02:18:47
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Dashcam viewer option not showing up
I have used [Samsung Pro Endurance MicroSD](https: www.amazon.com gp product B07B984HJ5 ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&amp psc=1) 128gb card with [SanDisk MobileMate microSD](https: www.amazon.com gp product B07G5JV2B5 ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&amp psc=1) card reader since the beginning. I was able to get sentry videos in the card and used some apps to view them on the phone or computer. But since the latest 2020.12.5 update the dashcam option is gone and in the security tab it says dashcam feature will be enabled when compatible device will be attached. Now not even the sentry videos get saved. Last file saved was at the end of March. I have tried formatting the card over and over in FAT32 with various utilities found on the web and none have worked. Is anyone having the same issue? What else could be done.
2020-04-15 14:41:45
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I have that same drive. No issues after a the update. The viewer is a little buggy but shows up.
2020-04-15 16:52:56
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Issues with Sentry Mode
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Tesla knows where you go all the time with your car.
With the flot optimization system they know where every car is and their caracteristics. How come that after the NSA scandal no one have been pushing tesla to give an option to not communicate information to Tesla and NSA ?
2015-04-06 21:26:24
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Unless you leave your cell phone at home you re already being tracked everywhere you go no matter what car you drive. I m not terribly happy about it but the convenience of the phone outweighs it. Having the car track too doesn t change much.
2015-04-06 21:49:52
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Were there any updates on Model 3 production last night
My feed cut out right after the Semi unveil .
2017-11-17 17:47:28
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Nope. I thought there would definitely be an update since there were a lot of 3s on the Playa Vista Lot. Once the roadster came out I basically blacked out. I don t know much after that.
2017-11-17 17:57:03
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Where is the power plug on Tesla 3?
Thanks for the info. I actually think the Leaf outlet is much better placed since you can park towards the charging station.
2016-04-05 00:29:57
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reminds me of trying to understand a vagina when i was 11
2016-04-05 00:31:31
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Is the new Self-driving feature going to be illegal somewhere?
Since it is not fully self-driving only on large roads and stuff i don t think it should be right? Just wondering.
2015-04-11 17:46:40
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Afaik is the driver still fully responsible for everything the car does. So there wouldn t really be any benefit of banning it.
2015-04-11 20:48:00
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Hurricane Florence info for Tesla owners
The following info page has just been created and will continuously be updated for any Tesla owners that may need to evacuate due to Hurricane Florence. While the information may be generally obvious to many some have never traveled with a Tesla especially new owners and may benefit. http: florence.triangletesla.org Any additional info you feel would be beneficial please comment with and if appropriate I will incorporate into updates.
2018-09-10 16:54:13
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IMHO if there is any potential for the need to evacuate charge as high as you can while the power is still on... longevity be damned.
2018-09-10 17:13:55
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Issues with Tesla Energy Installation
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Test drove model 3 today
So I always liked electric cars and bicycles etc I always knew they are more fun to ride drive.. and test drove lots of electric cars.. I was waiting for model 3 to come out so didn t get anything else.. and I never test drove Tesla before.. one time somebody suggested to drive his model 3 and I was afraid I m gonna drive off with it so I didn t.. Since I heard about mid-range option I was like ok now I should.. so my impression is of what Tesla is right now (without attributing just electric part to it).. they let me use the autopilot and changing lanes and accelerating on freeway and making turns.. oh man.. cruise control.. I was in complete shock after it.. I was not this amazed by technology (being myself in it) since first iPod touch.. I really can t see reason why everybody shouldn t own model 3 mid-range right now.. and honestly after test driving it I am not mad anymore that they choose to show price after savings.. it s really more fair to do that.. it s obviously cheaper to drive from LA to SF in Tesla than BMW why shouldn t it count? When I was test driving it drove so much itself that I was like this is not even test driving.. more like just testing.. amazingly simple to enable disable autopilot and cruise control.. the rear camera on the screen was great too... Lastly I could feel everything was quality.. so even though they are super late for delivery times.. they are making something so amazing that they just think they rather perfect it then ship mediocre stuff like other companies.. We are getting really close to better future I can see Tesla after shipping standard range model 3 will start making more cool stuff like electric buses or who knows
2018-10-22 03:07:14
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Another one bites the dust! Welcome to the club. Thanks for the great writeup. it s such a nice positive read before I hit the sack
2018-10-22 03:23:45
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Spotify feature “missing” after upgrading to v10
Was excited to use Spotify after upgrading but the icon isn t there. Even after hard soft reboot and the .1 patch. Hopefully they fix it soon but I figure we could help collect some data or steps if someone figures out a work around. Model 3 (May 2018) LR RWD w EAP (no FSD) I ve also been following this Tesla forum discussion: https: forums.tesla.com forum forums got-v10-no-spotify I ve got no other issues with other features included with v10
2019-10-04 02:51:15
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I want to apologize if this post doesn t meet standards for the sub. I ll be more than happy to modify if given direction. I ve been around long enough to know there are rules but I hardly ever post a topic I usually just chime in here and there so I m not exactly sure what they are.
2019-10-04 02:53:42
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Spotify Integration Analysis
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New S X delivery date for UK is 2022 - seriously?
How come we have to wait that long? I know it s a new model and we drive on the “wrong side of the road” but how come the quarterly system is out of the window now? My current model X lease finishes in July so I was looking forward to picking up the new model. Looks like I ll have to pick up something else to tide me over. Also I d like to test drive it to see if I can get on with the new steering wheel layout and lack of stalks. Was told not to expect test cars in the uk until at least July also. The good thing to come out of that wait time is that I ll hopefully be in a position to go for a Plaid+ with the new batteries 👍🏻
2021-01-29 12:51:52
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I d call sales and see if they d extend your lease for you. It is in their best interest for you to not need to be another car. They put you in this position where you can t lease an equivalent car at the end of your current lease because of their production timing. I d think they d be willing to extend the lease until the new vehicles start being delivered in your country.
2021-01-29 12:55:10
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