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Model Y rear view mirror SUPER dark. Is that normal? | I was originally thinking of getting a used model S (17 18) but sales rep convinced me that at this price range might as well get a brand new Y with all the latest hardware features. I just drove one today and everything was as I expected. The inside is minimalist basic the acceleration was impressive and tech is awesome. However the rear view mirror felt nearly unusable: for starters it was very dark at night and made it hard to see anything but bright lights. Second the area in the back window is rather limited. Is that something you get used to? Also any other things to know about MY before pulling the trigger and getting one? | 2020-12-24 08:02:55 | 12 | Yeah that s normal for the 3 Y at least with tinted windows which they Y had in the rear section from factory. If the Y is wired the same as the 3 there s a connector you can unplug from inside the mirror assembly and it will disable the auto dimming mirrors. | 2020-12-24 12:06:22 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,031 |
will the Powerwall for Europe ever get three phases? | One of the biggest downsides on the Powerwall in europe is that it has just one phase. I m really curious if there are plans from Tesla or even consideration for the Powerwalls produced in Gigafactory Berlin to have 3 phases. I m reading almost everything relating Tesla but i ve have not noticed such a consideration or a statement relating this issue. | 2020-04-16 08:47:04 | 14 | It s the gateway unit that is three phase. Australia has had them for almost a year | 2020-04-16 10:14:13 | 6 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 25,573 |
Troubleshooting Navigate on Autopilot | New Model 3 owner here. We encountered and solved a persistent problem with Navigate on Autopilot (NoA). Let us document it here in case others may find themselves in a similar situation. **Context** We were driving from Toronto to Montreal in the evening and have been using NoA without any prior issue. **Problem** After four hours on the highway a red exclamation mark appeared on the upper right corner of the display along with a Lane Departure Avoidance limited if issue persist contact Tesla Service error message in the right panel. NoA also stopped working and the car switched to plain Autopilot. When the error message goes away NoA became available again. However this series of events reoccured irregularly several times every 15 min. **Troubleshooting** We initially thought that it was a software issue. So we parked somewhere and restarted the infotainment system by pressing both scroll wheels and the brake until the screen went black. Despite this the NoA error kept coming back. Next we wondered if it was a hardware issue as in if there is something with the cameras that NoA used. When we checked the rear camera the picture was rather noisy with snow and vertical stripes. Since I have some expertise in computer vision and image processing using chilled CCDs I speculated that the camera sensor electronics was overheating because we had always turned Sentry Mode on whenever we parked for the past several days. **Solution** When we arrived at our destination we turned off Sentry Mode overnight to let the cameras cool off. In the morning we were able to use NoA without any issue or signs of error. The rear camera view was also back to normal. Note: We can t be sure that this is what happened. Alternatively it may have been a software problem which was fixed by a deeper restart of the on-board computer (when we walked away after parking). | 2019-10-06 17:17:16 | 5 | Restarting the infotainment system with the scroll wheels does not reset the Autopilot ECU just FYI. | 2019-10-06 18:07:29 | 4 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 21,485 |
Fix for drifting forwards on a hill whilst in reverse. | When parking on a hill in tight quarters with the nose of the car facing downhill. I set the car (M3) in reverse. I often find the car will disengage hold mode but before it reverses resulting in the car lurching forwards (normally towards a parked car). You have to fight the urge to over compensate - or else you then lurch backwards. In a traditional ICE car you get some tactile feedback when the engine is starting to bite. It seems like this could be a very simple software fix - just prevent the car from drifting forward when in reverse? | 2019-09-22 22:21:56 | 18 | When you put it in reverse keep foot on brake to put in hold . Then it shouldn t roll. Then when you hit accelerator it will just reverse. That s what I do on a hill. | 2019-09-22 23:08:37 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,764 |
Legally what needs to happen for the Model 3 to be sold without traditional side mirrors? | Specifically who are the governing bodies? For the United States is it the NHTSA that sets the recommendation but the states implement laws individually? Is there a wiki anywhere with a list of states current laws and any pending legislation? I m sure Tesla s Government Affairs team is hard at work on this issue though it may take the back seat to the sales ban issue. I think it would be great to see to see a concerted effort from the community to organize around this issue. | 2016-01-07 17:36:16 | 25 | VW actually released [a car that features cameras as the mirrors](http: www.wired.com 2013 05 volkswagen-xl1-driven #slideid-58028) and it s street legal in Germany and Austria. Tesla and others [have been petitioning state governments](http: www.wired.com 2014 04 tesla-auto-alliance-mirrors ) for a while but they ll have to prove a few things mainly that the systems can t be hacked won t be compromised in adverse road conditions (rain in particular water on the lens makes the system useless) and can be used by pretty much anybody. | 2016-01-07 18:26:34 | 13 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 10,793 |
AP2 Calibration | I m taking delivery on Thursday of My MS90D AP2 Owners how long did it take for autosteer to be enabled? I doubt there is a difference but I m in the UK | 2017-03-28 20:22:55 | 9 | Make sure you turn it on in the settings. Went days thinking it was broken. Although I m an idiot so maybe this doesn t apply | 2017-03-28 22:40:26 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,125 |
Southern Californian having some LTE streaming maps issues on model 3. | So I got my car not to long ago and every once in a while there is not signal whatsoever as I get into the car the lack of signal remains an issue for about 45-90 seconds. Any ideas thought? | 2018-01-24 03:31:07 | 8 | I have an active ticket where the car will lose connectivity while displaying bars. A reboot clears. My assumption is that the modem is faulty or the Interface to the main board is flawed. There is no consistency (temperature location time). Tesla engineering is pulling the data. | 2018-01-24 04:00:00 | 3 | Car Software Update Connectivity | 17,625 |
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Model 3 $1000 reservation credit | Am I missing something? Shouldn t we get $1000 credit for our Model 3 reservation payment? https: i.redd.it dw1rm2ld3m611.png | 2018-06-27 21:29:56 | 9 | You do at final payment once your are close to delivery. Your are looking at total cost and what you owe today. The $1k and $2.5k will be deducted from your final loan amount or final cash payment. | 2018-06-27 21:30:53 | 27 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 11,543 |
What to do if I can t make the delivery dates provided? | So I ordered a Model Y this week after previously canceling my preorder back in May. They sent me the delivery text with 2 days next week. I will be out of state as I wasn t expecting them to have a car delivered that fast. What are my options there is no option on t he site for these dates don t work . Should I just wait till the delivery text timeline expires tonight or should I pick a date and just not show up... its frustrating that I may need to wait an unknown amount of time because I can t schedule delivery for 3 days later... Any advice is appreciated. | 2020-09-10 18:57:59 | 10 | Call the service center where you ll pick up your car. What they can do on their end gives you far more options than what the website will give you. | 2020-09-10 18:59:05 | 11 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 22,986 |
When will each US S3XY model come equipped with 4680 cells? | It sounds like model S plaid may arrive in 2021 but what about models Y X and 3? Does anyone know if these models will have 4680 cells in the US this year? On battery day I recall seeing a graphic of the Cybertruck next to the semi (both of which should get the 4680 cells) but the 3XY models were not grouped together with them. If the 3XY models use different battery chemistry than the Cybertruck and Semi does that mean they won t get the 4680 cells? I do seem to recall hearing Berlin would be making 4680-based model Y ... does that mean a similar 4680-based Y may make it state-side soon? | 2021-01-27 21:23:05 | 19 | I have the exact same question. My guess is sometime next year. On the investor s call Elon said that by next year they are confident they will ramp 4680 battery production to 100 GWh. Don t quote me but I believe Tesla s total battery production from Giga Nevada is currently < 100 GWh. Considering they made 500k cars last year on the existing 18650 battery design I would think they would be bringing the majority of this new 100 GWh capacity to S X 3 and Y. Our 2008 Honda CRV is getting preeeeety long in the tooth and I honestly want to buy a Model Y now but with limited driving this year and likely 400+ mile MY available next year it just makes sense to wait. | 2021-01-28 00:56:11 | 9 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 23,164 |
CyberTruck can t tow a fifth wheel or some other super ridiculous load | According to automotive research and consulting firm Strategic Vision 75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less (meaning never). [https: www.thedrive.com news 26907 you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume](https: www.thedrive.com news 26907 you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume) The vast majority of truck owners like trucks because of the image they portray and there is nothing wrong with that SUV s Jeeps BMW s most every vehicle is mostly about image portrayal. No one really needs to do a fast quarter mile most family s don t really need the 7 seat SUV. So let s not pretend that most people use pickup trucks for hauling an RV every week or 1500 pound loads every day. No single truck can satisfy 100% of truck buyers needs. For those few of you that do use trucks for weekly fifth wheeling and hauling over long distances CyberTruck is not for you. Go for Ford Chevy et al. whom each have multiple models of pickup trucks because not a single one of their trucks can satisfy a majority of truck buyers needs either. The CyberTruck does satisfy the vast majority of truck buyers needs though and that is why Tesla will sell as many as they can possibly make. | 2019-12-04 19:30:44 | 29 | I would totally expect most truck owners to not tow stuff very frequently. Usually that s vacation stuff most people can t take multiple vacations a year. | 2019-12-04 20:01:58 | 29 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck | 4,358 |
NoA has absolutely zero foresight. | Regular autopilot is fantastic. I can change lanes with the turn signal when my human mind knows to initiate the lane change. NoA is completely stupid and can t predict even a millisecond into the future. Example from today: I m in the middle lane. The car shows the gray line in the right lane indicating that it wants to be there at some point in the future. There is a truck in the right lane about 50 yards in front of me (plenty of space to get over). I have a car behind me. I am gaining on the truck at maybe 1mph. Autopilot continues getting closer to the truck in the adjacent lane. Autopilot decides to change lanes but now I m too close behind the truck to merge. Autopilot slows down with the car directly behind me in the lane (rude not dangerous)...I take over and pass the truck instead of slowing down with someone behind me. NoA NEEDS to develop some kind of foresight and the ability to predict where traffic will be in 5-10 seconds so that it can act at a better time. NoA is PHENOMENAL with no traffic but with even a very normal amount of traffic it completely fails with lane change. Regular autopilot with turn signal lane initiated auto lane changes is the way to go. | 2019-04-12 21:57:58 | 53 | Yeah it drives pretty much how you d expect a computer program to drive. Like it schedules each lane change at some pre-determined time or distance that doesn t take into account the flow of traffic at all. I feel like it could made a lot better with just some simple heuristics though. | 2019-04-12 22:20:47 | 46 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 14,114 |
Standard Range Plus vs Long Range | So I m ordering a Tesla model 3 but I m a bit indecisive on what version to get. I don t really need the extra range since my commute isn t too far I do like the Premium Interior but is it worth the extra money? - Are the speakers noticeably better? - I can stream music and media from my phone right? - Is sat maps that much better than the standard view? Maybe I m missing some other important differences but a few other things I was wondering about: - Can SR+ still use superchargers? - Is there a big noticable difference in speed & acceleration between the SR+ RWD and LR AWD? | 2019-09-18 09:03:34 | 36 | The sound system in the premium interior is fantastic. Almost worth it just for the better audio quality. Live traffic is fine I guess but I could live without it. In general though I think the mantra is to get the biggest battery you can. It s better in the long run but if you re more concerned about the budget than the size of the battery I think you have your answer already. | 2019-09-18 12:40:51 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,727 |
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Tracking electric usage | I just got my new Model 3 two weeks ago and I just got an electrician to install my new 220v 50A circuit to charge. I d like to do some data analytics over the next year and track how much it actually costs me to fill up my car. I m looking for a way to put in a meter tracker just in the plug I have for the M3. The 220v plug is on it s own breaker and nothing else is installed on it so it should be isolated and easy to pull this data. Bonus points if I could pull read it remotely and pull in the data for analytics. I ve found [this on Amazon which looks like it could work.](https: www.amazon.com Sense-Energy-Monitor-Electricity-Usage dp B075K6PHJ9 ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8& qid=1544894838& sr=8-3& keywords=sense+energy+monitor) Not sure if there are other solutions out there or if someone has come up with their own solution. I m not afraid to break out some raspberry Pi s in order to do this monitoring either. | 2018-12-15 17:29:09 | 14 | When my electrician installed my Wall Connector I had him install this meter in line. https: www.amazon.com dp B01MRZAFAF It s not automated but it s good emough for keeping track of my usage. I just use an iOS app to keep track of my readings and it calculates all the cool metrics for me. There are a few different CT meter options on there. This one runs a little deeper which makes it fit tight if you re doing a flush mount | 2018-12-15 20:43:01 | 5 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,400 |
HW 3 Autopilot Calibration took 6 miles | My friends had told me their HW 2 took about 25 miles so maybe HW 3 is legit. Autopilot seems to be working well I love it! | 2020-05-25 03:40:24 | 5 | Definitely depends on where you re calibrating. Clear lane lines and other road markings speed up the process quite a bit. FWIW HW 2.5 and 3 took comparable amounts of time for me. I was on pretty good roads both times. | 2020-05-25 04:30:30 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,421 |
Finished my first road trip in my Model S. Here are some thoughts and experiences. | I just finished my first long-distance road trip in my Tesla and I figured I would share my thoughts experiences and observations. This might be useful to owners who haven t had the opportunity to take a road trip (yet) or who haven t collected as much data as I have. It might also be useful to enthusiasts and potential future owners. My trip took me from my home in Tampa FL (with one passenger) up to Mountain City GA to pick up two more passengers and finally to my destination in Boone NC. On the return trip I went straight from Boone to Tampa. Both directions of the trip were broken into two days of driving. I stopped in Roswell (just north of Atlanta) on the way to Mountain City at a hotel which featured a Tesla destination charger. I couldn t find any reasonably-priced hotels with destination chargers for the return trip so I instead opted to stay at a (much) cheaper hotel very near the Savannah GA supercharger and to instead go and supercharge once everyone was checked into their rooms. My car is a 2016 Model S with free supercharging and autopilot 2.0 hardware. My supercharging stops were: - Lake City FL - Tifton GA - Macon GA - *(destination charging overnight)* - Asheville NC - *(charging at final destination on 120V AC)* - Columbia NC - Savannah GA - Kingsland GA - Ocala FL I set up a personal server to collect all possible data from the car (via the undocumented owners API) at the following intervals: - Every minute when driving or supercharging - Every 5 minutes when charging on AC - Every 30 minutes when parked unplugged or charging complete # Charging I initially thought that with the lack of refueling stops and rest area stops that time added to the trip by charging would be roughly equivalent to time saved. I was wrong about this. My family traditionally packs sandwich lunches and eats them in the parking lot of rest areas so that we can get back on the road as quickly as possible. While the supercharging stops were not an unwelcome change of pace they did add noticeable time to the trip. I also initially thought that all superchargers are crazy fast and provide a large amount of relatively constant power. This was also incorrect. My average charging energy for each stop was: - Lake City: 65 kW (29% to 73% SOC 32 minutes) - Tifton: 69 kW (23% to 76% 36 minutes) - Macon: 48 kW (32% to 62% 30 minutes) - Asheville: 32 kW (21% to 41% 30 minutes) - Asheville: 78 kW (41% to 50% 5 minutes) - Asheville: 43 kW (51% to 86% 36 minutes) - Columbia: 50 kW (21% to 88% 61 minutes) - Savannah: 68 kW (15% to 85% 47 minutes) - Kingsland: 62 kW (37% to 89% 38 minutes) - Ocala: 51 kW (31% to 94% 56 minutes) Asheville is listed 3 times because I did some experimentation there. After everyone got out of the car I turned on the A C with the mobile app in order to keep the car cool and to avoid snacks from melting. At this point the car was charging at a relatively high rate (around 90 kW) Once everyone got food I noticed on the app that the car was charging extremely slowly. I went out and moved it to a different supercharger stall where the same thing happened: it initially charged very quickly and then dropped down. I stopped and restarted charging from the app and this time kept A C off. I have made a graph of the Savannah supercharging session [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6b843t i_will_be_concluding_my_first_longdistance_road ). I ve also made a graph of the Ocala supercharging session [here](https: mckay.media MU29i.png). I charged around 332.07 kWh at superchargers during this trip. If I didn t have free supercharging this would have eaten a considerable portion of my free annual supercharging credits (400 kWh). The built-in trip planner seems to aim for a 15% buffer at your destination. I typically stayed at the supercharger for around as long as it said I needed to then it estimated 15% remaining charge at the next supercharger. That estimated charge went up as I drove (maybe I drove more conservatively than it expected). In terms of destination charging I ve found that it seems to be better to look for hotels near superchargers than for hotels which have destination chargers. For one those hotels that have destination chargers tend to be much more expensive (at least in this area). I was also fortunate enough to not have to compete with another Tesla owner for the charger it could have been very frustrating if that were the case. Several of the superchargers I stopped at were located near hotels (the Columbia charger is literally in the parking lot of a Hilton). Stopping near a supercharger also has the added benefit of giving you a car. When I pulled into the hotel on the way to Mountain City I noticed that the Tesla charger was open so I snagged it as quickly as possible. I was then left at the mercy of the hotel shuttle to get around since I didn t want to give up the charger and risk losing it. # Driving Autopilot handled like a dream. Maybe a dozen or so times in the entire 1 556 mile trip did I have to manually take over and that was usually around construction zones where the lines on the road were all over the place or when someone started to drift into my lane. I m very very impressed with how well the Autopilot 2.0 system handled on the 17.17.4 software. The car s estimates for battery range were very accurate. I found that using TACC to maintain around 75 mph on the (flat) interstate hovered around the ideal 300 Wh mile. I had the A C set to between 67-69 degrees Fahrenheit throughout the trip. Here are the discrepancies between the car s rated range (the range displayed on the instrument cluster) and the actual distance traveled as checked at each charging station: Lake City Supercharger Charging duration: 32 minutes Consumed range: 184.65 Distance traveled: 170.59 Lost miles: 14.06 Tifton Supercharger Charging duration: 36 minutes Consumed range: 130.48 Distance traveled: 106.59 Lost miles: 23.89 Macon Supercharger Charging duration: 30 minutes Consumed range: 117.21 Distance traveled: 103.81 Lost miles: 13.4 DoubleTree Roswell Charging duration: 506 minutes Consumed range: 116.47 Distance traveled: 109.58 Lost miles: 6.89 Asheville Charging duration: 30 minutes Consumed range: 206.68 Distance traveled: 196.4 Lost miles: 10.28 Boone House Charging duration: 2114 minutes Consumed range: 122 Distance traveled: 109.21 Lost miles: 12.79 Columbia Supercharger Charging duration: 61 minutes Consumed range: 172.53 Distance traveled: 186.41 Lost miles: -13.88 Savannah Supercharger Charging duration: 47 minutes Consumed range: 187.27 Distance traveled: 170.75 Lost miles: 16.52 Kingsland Supercharger Charging duration: 38 minutes Consumed range: 124.24 Distance traveled: 105.31 Lost miles: 18.93 Ocala Supercharger Charging duration: 56 minutes Consumed range: 148.56 Distance traveled: 139.82 Lost miles: 8.74 The Columbia supercharger has negative loss because there was a lot of downhill driving from the Boone house to the supercharger. It s curious that there wasn t more loss from Asheville to the Boone house in my opinion. One small gripe: the GPS-based speed limit detection worked relatively poorly on the mountain roads and sometimes on US highways (e.g. US-301). By that I mean that it just didn t detect speed limit changes somewhat frequently. # Socialization The superchargers usually weren t very full (I believe 2 other Teslas in addition to my own was the record). When there were Teslas charging either they were empty or the occupants had sealed themselves inside and didn t seem to be in a talkative mood. I noticed that these folks usually appeared to be somewhat elderly. The only Tesla owner I was able to converse with was a Model X owner at the Columbia supercharger who informed me that he lived in the area and was only at the supercharger for free power. He let me take a look around since I d never seen a Model X up close before and demonstrated modelxmas. I think it might be neat if there were a Tesla social network in which you fill in a brief profile detailing some basic information about you your interests etc. Then when you start supercharging it could show you information about others who have filled out profiles who are also charging at your station. This might help to break the ice a little bit. Just a silly little idea. :) I also didn t see *any* Teslas on the trip that weren t at a supercharger or a standard charging station besides one that was being hauled on a car-carrier truck along with vehicles from other makes. # Supercharger Amenities Most of the superchargers had decent amenities albeit some required a bit of a walk (e.g. Columbia s closest food was a short hike away). The Macon supercharger seemed to be in a not-great area of town and since I arrived past 5 PM the nearby African-American museum and welcome center were both closed. The Ocala supercharger is located in the parking lot of a half-completed shopping complex and the closest food that wasn t a sit-down restaurant was about a 10-minute walk through the shopping complex. The Asheville supercharger was in the parking lot of an outlet mall which I liked (there need to be more of those). # The End I hope this was informative. If anyone has any questions I m glad to provide whatever answers I can! | 2017-05-16 04:50:48 | 205 | This is the best post on this sub in a long time. | 2017-05-16 12:06:08 | 41 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 6,652 |
Software upgraded my 2016 S60D to a S75D today | I decided to pull the trigger today and I upgraded my S60D to an S75D. I did some googling before the upgrade and saw people saying that the whole process takes less than 5 minutes. Most of those posts were several months old though. So I gave Tesla a ring and they said it should take about 1 business day. Needing the extra charge later today I decided to roll the dice anyway. From the time I hit submit for the payment it was less than two minutes until the car had rebooted and reappeared as an S75D. Super seamless process. Very impressed. I also noticed that KBB shows the value of my car as a 75D is about $8.5k more than the value of my car as a 60D. I m hoping that holds true when I actually decide to sell it for a newer model in a few years. | 2017-09-07 18:15:30 | 152 | Very cool. Now go to the service center and get your new badge! | 2017-09-07 18:20:37 | 88 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,484 |
I received and email and an actual phone call from Tesla today offering help with configuring my Model 3. I am in Florida. I guess things are progressing. | I pre-ordered before the release and I am an existing owner so that probably got me bumped up. I am waiting for dual motors or possibly a newer Model S if they update it this year. I asked to speak with Elon to ask him about it but they wouldn t connect me. | 2018-01-31 21:51:24 | 122 | > I asked to speak with Elon to ask him about it but they wouldn t connect me. Be sure to ask him if you can be the next CEO when you get a chance. | 2018-01-31 23:01:31 | 79 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,160 |
Has anyone seen a Battery Swap at Harris Ranch in person yet? | I saw a Battery swap being done a Harris Ranch today and was not that impressed. I mean it speaks well of Tesla s engineering that this is possible but it s not very autonomous. There are two Tesla Service members in the floor doing all the work minus the lowering and lifting of batteries but other than that it was two service men in hard hats with drills. The Owner getting his battery swaped was not that in to it. He was there for the cred of saying that he s done it but he didn t think it was worth $80. He said why would I pay $80 for this and I can do it over there for free while I eat lunch Side Note: I asked him how he got an invite and he replied that he travels back and forth and charges there every week and Tesla reached out to him via email. This leads me to believe that Tesla collects Supercharger data and selects candidates based on their habits of charging at HR. | 2015-05-09 05:15:44 | 24 | Yep. I got the invite too and I only charge there 2-3 times a year. I think what did it was 1 960 mile in one day trip I took where I charged to full there at 2am in order not to stop again to get home. That and we put 35k on it the first year. But why would we swap for that price you have to stop again anyway at tejon if your going south or at least have very little battery left when you get into the basin. What they should do is demonstrate the utility by making the first one free (like 80 s drug peddlers). | 2015-05-09 07:40:48 | 12 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 7,622 |
A plea for more detailed supercharger information | I plugged into completely vacant Temecula yesterday at 15% battery and the initial 110 kW the charger started at slumped down to 30kW. I moved to another stall same behavior. I called the tesla number to ask what was going on and the service rep could immediately provide me my answer he said Let s see yeah that stall is currently showing fluctuating power actually all except 4B are. I m showing 4B as the only one with full power. I plugged into 4B and sure enough immediately got 112 kW (highest I see anywhere). He mentioned they have service scheduled for Temecula but I saw the same problem at this spot a few months ago. So why do I have to call for this information? We can see how many stalls are available now which is nice but we really need Tesla to give us information about which stalls have full power available. As I was leaving I saw a brand new tesla approaching with paper tags and felt bad because that new owner probably wouldn t know what was going on and just sit there at 30 kW. | 2017-02-27 02:35:02 | 22 | https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads superchargers-super-slow.81432 This issue has been widely reported these past three months. I m with you Tesla *needed* to start reporting these debilitated Superchargers yesterday. | 2017-02-27 04:14:06 | 14 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 987 |
Questions to the investors here. | I m a sophomore in college and I have a fair amount of money saved up from previous jobs.. I would like to to buy some shares especially since they are falling low right now( cause of the fires?) it would be a good moment to get in. I know tesla has the potential in a couple of years shoot straight up especially when the 40k affordable model comes out. My question is what is the best way for me to purchase the shares and hold them for a while. What online company should I use etc And just any other tips? I want to have the info so when I feel is the right moment to purchase I know what to do. Thank you | 2013-11-23 20:34:27 | 6 | One thing to always remember is that you don t know where the bottom is. Tesla is still considered over priced right now even after losing ~30% since October. So if you buy in now you could lose some money for a while. If you are confident in its success then sure but you might have to wait a few years so see a good profit from it. As to where to buy from you typically need a brokerage account somewhere. The r investing sub has a FAQ on that where they compare a number of online brokers. http: www.bullishness.com online-stock-brokers#compare http: www.fool.com how-to-invest broker index.aspx http: online.barrons.com article SB50001424052748704836204578349290221878444.html#articleTabs_article%3D1 Just make sure you know what you are doing. I love Tesla and I see success in the future but its never a sure thing! | 2013-11-23 20:50:08 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,014 |
Best time to get a Tesla | Hey all I am buying a Tesla!!! The decision is made I just need to iron out the details. (Model time etc) It s end of the year and although the tax credit is nice I don t think I need it this year so I can get it in December or in 2019. I am wondering what the best time is to buy a Tesla model S. For example.... are they selling 2018 models now or 2019 already. If I buy it in December will there be a brand new 2019 model released in January. What has been the typical release cycle? Like I go online and see used Tesla dated to 2015. Etc. If I buy the Tesla in 2018 will it be dated 2018? Any insights would be appreciated! Edit: Reposted due to iPhone autocorrect subject typo | 2018-12-12 06:49:34 | 9 | According to Elon if you keep waiting for the newest Tesla you will never own a Tesla. Tesla doesn t really have Model years so there is no point in waiting for a new model year. It s hard to say when the next update will be but it has been said that an interior refresh may be in the works but that could be a year or two away we really don t know. TL DR: Best time to buy a Tesla is now. | 2018-12-12 07:02:48 | 52 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,852 |
Model 3 Delivery Timeline Toronto Canada | So I ve got my Tesla Model 3 on order. My Tesla rep sent me the below image and just wondering if anyone has any experience on whether these dates are accurate? I m assuming ETA date means delivered to the dealer. I also sent my rep confirmation that this will actually be the NEW model 3 design. What do you guys think? https: preview.redd.it epigkdlecfx51.jpg?width=1359& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=9e2fcc64f7c938853736929abab5ebad115d4660 | 2020-11-05 13:42:59 | 7 | Super interesting makes me want to call in and get mine. Also Toronto. | 2020-11-06 03:28:01 | 2 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 11,695 |
I for one am now pumped! | With the refreshed Model S and now the Model X online with the latest deliveries being in shown as June in the configurator as I write this I m loving our chances of Tesla actually hitting their date for the Model 3. Tesla is killing it right now :-) | 2016-04-12 16:37:38 | 20 | They had a rough start to their business but are picking up stream real quick! | 2016-04-12 16:39:22 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,853 |
Regen Braking Setting no longer available | Hello. I am posting this thread as a follow up to my previous thread here: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments hghc3m regen_braking_setting_missing I requested service to see if they could get to the bottom of this and heard back from one of Tesla s remote diagnostic technicians just now. He stated that regenerative braking is no longer a selectable option on new vehicles. The braking setting will always be on standard. I asked if there was any way they could set it to low for me and his response was the following: The EPA now requires new vehicle to have regen always on. So no there is no way to set to low for any new vehicles I am in California and picked up this vehicle on June 26th. I don t mind standard regen braking but my grandparents drive it from time to time and they are too old to get used to a new way of pedalling at this point in life. Pretty disappointing that this is the case as I d never heard of this before and nobody that responded to me in the previous thread I posted was aware of this either. | 2020-07-01 18:13:45 | 51 | That s not gonna be a problem at all in snowy climates. | 2020-07-01 18:14:51 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,336 |
Painted my Model Y Gemini s | Not an easy process but came out pretty good. Made a few mistakes along the way and decided to pass them along in case someone wants to do it and do the same. 1. IMPORTANT! Need to sand off the gloss!! Rough up the entire surface with sandpaper before painting. 2. Clean surface. 3. Mask off wheel if tire still attached. Used trick I learned on YouTube. Index cards. 4. 3 Coats of Rust-Oleum Sandable Primer 5. 4 Coats of VHT Satin Black Wheel Paint 6. 3 Coats of VHT Matte Clear Wheel Paint 7. Cure for 7 days Definitely not perfect. There is dust dirt specks that got in the paint even though the paint sets up really quick. Almost impossible to stop unless you have a clean room. Overall less than $100 in supplies. Not too bad. Primer: [https: www.amazon.com gp product B006ZLQ4HQ](https: www.amazon.com gp product B006ZLQ4HQ) Satin Black: [https: www.amazon.com gp product B00B3V2QJ8](https: www.amazon.com gp product B00B3V2QJ8) Matte Clear: [https: www.amazon.com gp product B00K1YXGQA](https: www.amazon.com gp product B00K1YXGQA) & #x200B https: preview.redd.it eyts68j1n7251.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=624dfc955647cfd8a6cbaa15f85007d7980d2be8 https: preview.redd.it esx4ugj1n7251.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=05e75f754fab87da1da01ae4731b2f552de72219 https: preview.redd.it exvvxcj1n7251.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=5c9905e290aac34cdff8ab3fc5c8984ebe28071f https: preview.redd.it srwitaj1n7251.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=7c247580373c0bc484a2bc5c9bbb9caca21026a3 & #x200B https: preview.redd.it skkya18en7251.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=82b9e8f297c2abb5a0f66498d1aba27ff551438c https: preview.redd.it xgb8738en7251.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=a301d0005aa09685be14203b62e47a64a84ea5d5 https: preview.redd.it 8dlfc68en7251.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=34775af1b9240fa3828eb16a9e677b737712adfc | 2020-06-01 02:34:56 | 184 | Looks really good! | 2020-06-01 02:38:16 | 31 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 14,996 |
Serious question to existing Model S X owners. Are you worried about the new wave of Model 3 owners filling up supercharger spots? | Just curious It looks like by 2020 we ll have a ton of Teslas zipping around. I assume Tesla will continue to ramp up supercharger locations and come up with creative solutions to keep them used efficiently. Curious though if you guys are like OH GREAT it s finally happening. The affordable car is coming. EDIT: Looks like most here welcome the new wave of Tesla owners and clean tech advocates. My faith in humanity is restored. | 2016-03-21 19:32:02 | 19 | Nope - I welcome it for a few reasons. 1. Forces a rollout of more stations. 2. Means the plan is working. 3. Mass normalization of the tech will mean more consistent charging in more locations at endpoints. 4. Shouldn t be using them so often it s an issue anyway. | 2016-03-21 19:46:40 | 52 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,014 |
Spammy promotional notification for Loot box | Did anyone else get a spammy push notification for Loot Box? I got one on both iOS and Android. I got one and there is no setting to disable it. Also if anyone from Tesla is reading this: please have a setting that lets me disable marketing notifications. Please respect that your users have already paid you for a purchase and this kind of gimmicky notification is absolutely unacceptable in a mobile app for a premium paid product. | 2017-09-29 18:44:28 | 26 | I got it too and I agree this is unacceptable. I won t get bent out of shape if it s just a one-off thing but at the very least they need an option to disable these particular notifications. I want notifications for my car but that shouldn t imply consent for what is basically advertising. | 2017-09-29 18:57:05 | 18 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 17,633 |
Tesla Tax Question | Hi. tl dr how would one making less than 40k year gross take advantage of full tax credit. Trying to get a better understanding of how a tax credit of $7 500 would benefit someone earning $35k gross. - If I plan on making a deposit for a Model 3 in March would I be able to use this tax credit towards back taxes? - If I max out my allowances so I have less to no taxes taken from paycheck thus me owing money at the end of the year could I then use this $7500 credit on the amount I would owe the IRS? - Granted the above questions don t go in my favor what If I gave the money to another person for the purchase of the vehicle (who could use the full $7500) and he used the credit on his taxes and he gives me the $7500? | 2016-03-16 01:10:48 | 6 | As far as I know from reading this subreddit*: The $7 500 applies to your total tax liability for the year in which you claim it. How much of that got withheld from your paycheck doesn t matter just the total amount of taxes for the year. So if you have had $7 500 in withholdings and owe the IRS $0 additional when you file your taxes you could get the $7 500 back. According to [this calculator](http: us.thetaxcalculator.net ) it looks like a single person making $35k could get about $3 200 maximum back. There are probably some more intricacies to it that I m not aware of but that s the big picture idea. *I m not a lawyer or accountant just someone who reads this subreddit. Edit: Some other threads which may be good reading: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 3k3ild has_anyone_here_gone_through_the_process_of https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 2e0yvq tax_credit_question | 2016-03-16 01:38:10 | 5 | EV Tax Credit Information | 19,563 |
Second row seat removal? | Do we have any information on whether or not the second row is removable in the X? Clearly it doesn t have a button but is it a bolt or major surgery? | 2015-12-18 21:29:57 | 9 | Everything I have seen so far leads me to believe it would be major surgery and that they are intended only to slide forward to move out of the way. Personally I am *so far* okay with that at least until I actually see one in person to get a good sense of the resulting cargo space size and shape. | 2015-12-18 23:27:32 | 5 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 16,866 |
Increased range after 7.1 update | I just noticed while supercharging that my 90% charge Max has increased from 210 prior to 7.1 to 218. Anyone else noticed this? This is on a 70S btw. | 2016-01-15 11:40:55 | 6 | That happens often after an upgrade while things re-calibrate and based on different ways of computing the value. I ve had mine jump 5 miles up after an upgrade in the past can t remember which one but it slid back down over the next month or so. My 90% went from 230 to 231 for the 7.1 upgrade! Also sometimes when I charge to 100% it will show 255 but will drive 10 miles on 255 before dropping to 254. | 2016-01-15 13:42:06 | 7 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 9,654 |
Bright headlights | Since it s gotten darker for winter and I m driving home from work in the dark I m getting flashed a lot by oncoming motorists who think I have my full beam on. I know the headlights are bright and they seem to be aligned ok but I was wondering if I should get them checked out to see if they are misaligned and pointing upwards. That doesn t seem to be the case but practically every 4th or 5th car I pass will flash their headlights at me to indicate they think I ve left my full beam on. To be clear I definitely do not have my full beam on when the other motorists flash. I drive a Model X and I m in the UK. Has anyone else experienced this? Should I get the headlights checked? | 2019-12-16 06:39:34 | 7 | I had the same situation and took it in for service. They lowered the angle slightly and I haven t been flashed (by headlights) since. | 2019-12-16 08:54:15 | 40 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,040 |
Quick poll on Electrek | Just wanting to know what you people think about Electrek a few mods are questioning it (sparked by the earlier cybertruck lazer post) just wanting to know what the community feels about it and how you would ideally solve it | 2020-02-22 04:37:53 | 32 | Think of Electrek like you do the 24 hour news networks. Yes a lot of it is shit clickbait. That s because they try to pump out new Tesla articles multiple times a week. But in the shit is some good info. They get early release notes from upcoming software they get leaks from employees and they get press release docs that only the press get ahead of announcements. They have to make money so they do spit out some true crap for clicks but there is real info once in awhile. It s the 80-20 rule. I am in favor of removing if the original content was already posted here. Fred used to actually do that himself back in the day and remove his own articles when he knew the content was from here. | 2020-02-22 06:29:16 | 116 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 16,035 |
Destination Chargers listed on Tesla website - How do you know which business it is? | I noticed the official Tesla website now lists the Destination Charging stations on the Supercharger map. I find this extremely useful however I can t decipher the name of the businesses nor can I tell if it s a hotel or restaurant etc. Am I missing something or does anyone know a way to find a list of destination charging businesses? | 2015-06-08 18:44:16 | 8 | http: www.teslamotors.com findus list chargers United+States If you re looking for international listings scroll to the bottom of [this page](http: www.teslamotors.com findus list). | 2015-06-08 18:54:56 | 4 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 5,010 |
[Discussion] Getting cold feet: Is my $6K Model 3 Deposit refundable? | The full price of the Model 3 is finally dawning on me. $81K (CAD) is a lot of money for someone who d be happy getting a $20K car instead and saving up for a house. My Model 3 is already in the showroom and I m supposed to pick it up on Monday. I m getting cold feet. Can I get out of it and have my money back? Edit: So Tesla was willing to give a refund. But I did the maths and decided to finance instead of paying it all in cash while using the money to invest in 7% returns to offset the ~5% interest... And in the long term it saves me money and who knows if self-driving will ever be a thing. | 2018-06-21 13:14:29 | 43 | Not sure but if it isn t be careful not to fall under the spell of the sunk cost fallacy. This isn t a $81k car that you ve already put $6k toward. That $6k is gone and no longer factors into your decision. You now need to decide if you want to buy a $75k car. | 2018-06-21 14:30:17 | 155 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,351 |
Why all the Tesla hate online? | I seriously don t understand people. A publication comes out about Tesla s 1Q production and every Tom dick and Harry has to comment online about how much they hate Tesla s. 5 year olds are mining lithium naked Electricity to charge is generated with coal The batteries combust The batteries have to be replaced every 3 years costing you thousands. Is there some kind of doublespeak disinformation program out there trying to keep people from understanding anything about EV s? I m just amazed at what people post online... | 2021-04-02 22:41:59 | 186 | 2 parts jealousy 1 part ignorance 1 part tribalism | 2021-04-02 23:26:11 | 210 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,384 |
CPO vs New | Did anyone get a CPO and then decide it wasn t for them or you had buyers remorse over a certain aspect of the car and returned it to design a new one? There a lot of great CPO vehicles out there right now that fit my needs and finances but for just a little more a new one may be attainable customized to my liking. What are the benefits of a brand new 16 versus say a 13 besides AP face redesign and super charger? I am wavering back and forth everyday especially when I consider the $7500 credit if eligible due to my finances on a new versus the $1000 for referral on a CPO. I am all over the place right now. | 2016-06-30 16:45:40 | 6 | List the features and rank them in terms of what is most important to you. You can t give the same rating to any of them. This will force you to compromise on the features. | 2016-06-30 17:04:25 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,273 |
Gila Bend to El Paso Chargers | Any have actual runs down this route? Will I need any adapters? Locations and what s nearby appreciated. I will be heading East mid July and want to take the Southern route. | 2017-06-21 05:42:07 | 7 | Download the PlugShare app. There are some RV parks along the way but they are paid stations.... and obviously not as fast as the superchargers. | 2017-06-21 10:07:00 | 6 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 7,227 |
Car parts? | Hey! I d like to buy a salvaged Model S but I can t find any parts on the web. Has anyone repaired their Tesla? Thanks! | 2013-09-09 19:16:20 | 6 | Why would you? You get a service contract with your car and outside of tires and brakes there is little to repair. Being this is the case it is likely that self repair will void your warranty. As for wrecks it s my understanding that tesla buys back the motor and the battery pack from the insurance company. I know I ve been looking for a Tesla power train as well. | 2013-09-10 02:37:52 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,683 |
Whats the best way to sell a Tesla? | Im looking at maybe selling my P85D because im going to be doing some traveling for a bit. Never really sold a car of this value before so what is the best way to find a buyer? | 2016-01-07 19:53:17 | 7 | Put it on TMC is probably one of the best ways. Auto Trader Ebay etc 3rd parties are second choice | 2016-01-07 21:44:23 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,058 |
Following the lead of Tesla Motors LG Chem Foxconn and others are racing to build megafactories to build batteries for electric cars | [Where Will the Graphite Lithium and Cobalt for the Battery Revolution Come From?](http: www.theaureport.com pub na 16572) > The megafactories will be needed to drive down costs significantly. Tesla Motors LG Chem Boston-Power Inc. Foxconn Technology Group and most recently Chinese electric vehicle producer BYD have all announced plans to build them. Meanwhile majors like Samsung SDI have announced significant expansions of existing operations. The battery industry is preparing for a surge in demand and its next phase of growth. | 2015-03-24 23:53:36 | 83 | Yay for cheap and good batteries. | 2015-03-25 01:31:44 | 22 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 6,807 |
Model 3 repair limbo | A friend of mine who s a mechanic just shared a pretty problematic Model 3 repair story: a Model 3 took on some body damage that needed some full replacements (hood front windshield roof) but ended up in repair limbo for months. The system the friend s shop uses to inventory parts typically shows availability dates of a day or two for more common vehicles but for the missing Model 3 parts they ve been listed as indefinite for months. Insurance is leaning on the shop to fix the car (as they ve been covering the guy s rental this whole time) but the shop can t do anything without the parts. Is this a bizarre outlier? I have a Model 3 preorder in the oven and I d love to cut through the Koolaid on one side and the FUD on the other to get an honest picture of what to expect. Thanks! | 2018-08-19 02:16:38 | 45 | This is standard with Tesla. They really need to figure that out if they want to be a respectable automaker OEM and tier 1 supplier | 2018-08-19 02:58:25 | 28 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 12,337 |
Very impressed with Tesla s sales tactics. | Some people get mad when they adjust things on the fly but they keep coming up with new ways to get people to buy Tesla s. I feel like it s commendable to say the least. First they announce to P100D followed by huge discounts at the end of Q3. Then they add AP 2.0 glass roof and change seats on the 90D. As well as the future supercharging change and warning of the $2 000 S60 price increase. Now with getting rid of grey seats I would assume that means they re getting rid of the old style seats and who knows maybe even the 100D is coming very early Q1. | 2016-12-02 03:55:57 | 6 | I agree. Elon calls these demand levers. **Recent demand levers:** * Reintroduction of 60 kWh after it was discontinued for a year * P100D * End of Q3 2016 discounts * Autopilot 2.0 hardware * Glass roof * Free Supercharging deadline: 31st Dec 2016 **Possible near-term demand levers:** * Model S X 100D * Solar car roof * Heads-up display * Automated front doors * 20% lighter 100 kWh pack with 2170 cells = range increase | 2016-12-02 04:52:17 | 14 | Tesla Model Comparison | 22,083 |
After 200k unit anyone thinking production hell is over? | SoFlo 2nd day reservation ordered 6 27 a red LR RWD EAP delivery estimate Sep-Nov which updated last week to Aug - Oct. 07 14 a Tesla rep wrote that my TM3 is scheduled for delivery on 08 05... Guess they are cranking all 4 lines like crazy! | 2018-07-18 03:59:09 | 27 | We re now in demand hell | 2018-07-18 04:15:36 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,316 |
CCS Adapter in Canada | Looking at ordering a new Model Y in the coming weeks and was wondering if there is anyway of getting the CCS Adapter that is available in the UK ([https: shop.tesla.com en\_gb product model-x-ccs-upgrade](https: shop.tesla.com en_gb product model-x-ccs-upgrade)) to work with a Model Y in Canada? While I plan on relying on both the Supercharging Network and Destination Charging for the majority of my road trips I feel the added comfort of having this adapter is worth the price. I know there is an aftermarket adapter available but it doesn t have the best reviews & it doesn t appear to be much cheaper than the OE version. | 2021-06-03 11:58:37 | 7 | No. That adapter is made for the special Type 2 connector on the Europe Oceania S & X. It will not work with a North America vehicle that has the Tesla plug | 2021-06-03 12:24:02 | 17 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,225 |
Software 20.40.8.11 appeared today on Teslascope | There are no release notes but software 20.40.8.11 has appeared with 1 car having the version installed. 20.40.8.10 (FSD beta) showed up on Teslascope on 22-Oct with 1 car and it s now showing 0 cars. This could be our first sign of bug fixes for the FSD testers! https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.40.8.11 | 2020-10-24 13:46:20 | 152 | This guy who has been posting FSD videos also got it https: twitter.com brandonee916 status 1319940952715218944?s=19 | 2020-10-24 13:56:25 | 53 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 17,456 |
Timing of the High Mileage CPO Program | I seriously doubt the timing of the high mileage CPO is accidental but it seems like interesting timing to me so I ve been trying to think through what the motivation would be for adding all these lower cost Model S CPOs a month before production is supposed to start for the Model 3. Here s some thoughts. 1) Someone suggested they may expect the value of their pre-owned inventory to depreciate significantly with the release of model 3 so they re trying to cash out while they can. If true that would actually make these CPOs not a good buy right now. But they didn t previously sell use cars with such high mileage right? If they were aggressively cutting the prices on the lower mileage pre-owneds that would indicate a cash-out but I m not sure here as I think this is a totally new category. 2) It s possible the sales have slowed as people are waiting for the Model 3 and this is a way for them to drive some extra revenue without doing any major pivots in the company. In fact if they re already preparing to have to do extra service on the increasing fleet of Model 3s on the road doing some refurbish work on the used cars could be a good way to keep the increased workforce for that busy as they build up to capacity and during any downtime. 3) Also assuming sales may be slower this quarter (not actually sure if that s true or not) selling as many CPOs as they can this month would help boost their financials a bit before the quarter ends. Wouldn t help with delivery targets for new cars but would increase revenue. 4) Even if they achieve what would under any other circumstances be considered a good and smooth ramp-up to full scale production there is *no way* they are going to live up to some of the expectations out there. This help alleviate some of that pressure by giving some of those waiting to spend ~$35k on a car a faster way into a Tesla and again boosting revenue a bit moving forward regardless of how production ramps up. I hope that s not their primary motivation as I doubt it will make that much of an impact in that regard. 5) They re offering a *taste* of the more premium car. Sort of like the idea of giving a P100D loaner while your car is being repaired with the hopes that you ll love it and buy a higher end car next time this could be a bit of a gateway to move would-be Model 3 owners into Model S owners and eventually get them to buy newer cars from them. 6) Sort of the opposite of #5 but they may be expecting a large influx of people moving from the older Model S to a new Model 3 and wanting to trade in those high mileage cars - now they have a program in place to resell those when the time comes. Any other thoughts on why they would have timed the high mileage CPO program like this? I m fascinated with trying to think through why they do things how and when they do them. | 2017-06-07 05:30:30 | 13 | Here in the UK the older CPO cars are way overpriced and obviously aren t selling because it s been the same list for months. £48k for a 2014 pre Autopilot S60 is just ridiculous when you can get a new S75 with AP2 hardware for £61.5k. | 2017-06-07 11:51:02 | 10 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 21,199 |
[UPDATE] Having a charging issue | Took it to the service center today where they plugged it in (agreed with me that supercharger behavior was abnormal). Did not charge at all inside the dealer (where it is warm). Onboard electronics are not registering any issue so they are going to send the battery to CA for a fix. I am with a loaner until they can put a loaner battery in my car while my original battery is being fixed evaluated. So ... battery issue. | 2016-12-16 05:05:51 | 6 | Hope they get it resolved soon! | 2016-12-16 07:06:47 | 5 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 25,241 |
Is 70% acceptable amount of battery retention | Was looking at the vehicle warranty and when it talks about battery capacity. https: www.tesla.com support vehicle-warranty?redirect=no > Model 3 and Model Y Long Range or Performance - 8 years or 120 000 miles whichever comes first with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period. 120 000 miles doesn t seem like very much for that amount of capacity loss. Was just wondering what everyone s thoughts about this was. | 2020-05-25 17:32:08 | 7 | It probably won t get anywhere near that low. That s why they put the warranty down there: to reduce claims to only cover significant degradation. | 2020-05-25 17:33:10 | 31 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 9,852 |
ELI5 Why how does it work with tax credits. Why there are still tax credit available for car like Toyota Prius which sold hundreds of thousands in USA? And people are scared that for Tesla credits will run out soon? | So according to [wikipedia](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Hybrid_electric_vehicles_in_the_United_States) Toyota sold already hundreds of thousands of Priuses. But on [their site](http: www.toyota.com prius-plug-in-hybrid #! features common-questions what-is-the-tax-incentive) it says the car is still available for tax credits. How is that possible? Isn t there some limit of 200 000 vehicles everyone is talking about in connection to Tesla? | 2015-11-18 18:54:56 | 11 | Because Toyota hasn t sold more than 200 000 [*qualifying* vehicles](https: www.fueleconomy.gov feg taxphevb.shtml) (ie plug-ins) yet. From its introduction in 2012 through this September Toyota sold [37 018 Prius PHVs](http: insideevs.com worldwide-toyota-prius-plug-in-sales-on-the-graphs ) in the US. | 2015-11-18 19:14:08 | 13 | EV Tax Credit Information | 5,752 |
Keyfob Storage Solutions | Unless my Google-fu skills have failed me I think I might have hit some new territory here for fellow Tesla owners. I am looking for a mini-garage for my Model X keyfobs. The closest I have seen thus far is this: [Product Page](https: www.cairo.de Schluesselanhaenger-Porsche-356-A-Coupe-mit-Garage.html) [Mini-garage](http: incrediblethings.com wp-content uploads 2014 09 garage-car-keys-holder-1-518x595.jpg) Ideally I d like something a bit more tesla style and have a his and hers spot 2 car garage space. Anyone with craft skills or a 3D printer want to prototype this with me? Happy to sponsor the right project as there do not appear to be any other viable options. | 2017-09-30 02:49:22 | 6 | These days I have the key fobs in a good looking old fashioned tin box to avoid the issue with someone relaying the signal from the key and driving away with the car. It will be quite fiddly to get a good faraday cage with a 3d printed garage. (I have a printer.) | 2017-09-30 03:35:03 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,617 |
Remote Heating AC Control | Quick one for the current owners: how good usable is the app that lets you use the climate control for the car remotely? Someone I spoke with said it doesn t work well (doesn t always respond via phone app) - is that true? Also how long does it generally take to work? I know it depends on the temp differential outside but I didn t know if its generally a couple mins or perhaps longer for extreme heat cold. Thx. | 2014-07-29 16:38:24 | 10 | The app itself is a little wonky in that I find myself having to start the app twice in order for it to connect to the car. It s as if my first attempt doesn t connect. Once connected though it works well. I did notice that if you turn on climate control and close the app too quickly the car doesn t always respond to the command. What I figured out was once I turn on the climate control I make sure to wait until I get an interior temperature reading from the car. (It s not always immediately available when you connect to the car). It s usually an extra couple seconds but I ve found that to work for me every time. | 2014-07-29 17:29:36 | 9 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 16,393 |
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Tesla Service Vehicles able to interrupt charge sessions. | Interesting thing happened today. I have been supercharging for a while now usually between 140-240mi charge mark. I never had a session interrupted due to another car plugging in the next stall. Today I had a model S service vehicle plug in and immediately my session was interrupted. I tried to reinitiate with no luck. I was about to move to another stall and try when the guy seemingly knowing what was going on told me we will move. He did not seem me and thought my car was empty. Anyone else had this happen? | 2018-08-27 19:39:06 | 11 | How does it do this exactly? | 2018-08-27 19:44:00 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,481 |
[meta] people need to stop down voting opinion threads just because they don t agree with them | It s like an epidemic here. That s not the point of the downvote button. | 2015-09-30 14:00:32 | 5 | Paging u JetsHockeyFan! | 2015-09-30 15:30:08 | 8 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 25,293 |
Where to place the Fastrak transmitter | I ve seen this posted on TM forums etc. but no one seems to have a satisfying answer as to where to put the fastrak transmitter on the windshield so it will work. Do you guys have any ideas? Thanks! | 2015-12-08 22:13:12 | 13 | I don t know Fastrack but for Sunpass I had to get the external mount kind you d usually put on a license plate bracket then the local Service Center installed it behind the nosecone for me. Nobody will ever see it again and it works great. I did a little Google-fu and [found this.](https: www.bayareafastrak.org en images Vehicles_with_Metal_Oxide_Windshields.pdf) So Fastrak already knows you re going to need one. How to get one of the external transponders may vary. I had to call and select new account to talk to a live human who was more than happy to charge me $20 and send it to me. | 2015-12-08 23:12:39 | 5 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 23,253 |
Advice: If you have a Tesla built in 2018 double-check if you can charge faster than 32 Amps through AC charging (Corded Mobile Connector or Wall Connector). | I recently got a 200 Amp panel installed and subsequently the Gen 3 Wall Connector installed on a 50 Amp breaker. With a 50 Amp breaker the wall connector should allow my 2018 RWD LR Model 3 to charge at 40 Amps. Upon plugging in my car I kept getting error [PCS\_a019 for Power grid or vehicle issue limiting AC charging ](https: imgur.com a feiTA1J) Did some googling and found that there were [others out there](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads charge-speed-reduced-unplug-and-try-again.138361 ) with a 2018 Model 3 with a similar issue. It turns out that the Power Conversion System needs to be replaced. This [page (from another user) explains](https: www.casteyanqui.com ev battery_dispute index.html?utm_source=pocket_mylist) this issue in more detail: > Clearly visible toward the middle of the circuit board are three sets of blocks fuses capacitors etc. Each one of those sets converts and delivers 16A of power to the battery and thus all three combined produce 48A the maximum amount of AC power that a Model 3 can accept. If one of those sets breaks down the remaining two can only deliver 32A of power (which is starting to happen in my penthouse). If a second set fails the last one will only deliver 16A of power (which has happened with other owners experiencing this problem). And if all three sets break down… the car cannot be charged at all from a Level 1 or Level 2 charger. I set up a service appointment and they quoted me $1763 for parts and labor. I just hit over 50 000 miles a couple of months ago so they are saying it is not covered. I am not going to be paying for this fix and continue to charge at 32A - nearly $2k to get 8A faster charging isn t worth it to me. If another set breaks down and I can only charge at 16A that s likely when I will get it fixed. **My advice to you 2018 owners (especially if you are still under warranty) is to find a wall connector or a corded mobile connector that can provide you with more than 32 Amps and test if your car can charge greater than 32 Amps.** At my previous house I had a generic level 2 charger that only charged at 32 Amps so I was none the wiser if the PCS was defective at that point or not. All other charging came from other generic L2 chargers or superchargers. If your charger only does 32A max it will never throw out an error unless you have 2 sets that are broken down. | 2022-10-14 00:07:15 | 137 | Had the same issue with our 2018 Model 3 fortunately under warranty | 2022-10-14 01:12:28 | 37 | Tesla charging port locking | 1,300 |
Pin protected car MCU crashed... can t drive. | Today I got in my car to find that the MCU had crashed. This has happened a few times in the past so whatevs... but I recently enabled the pin requirement for driving. Without bring able to enter the pin on the MCU screen the car refused to shift out of Park and just said Car Off no matter what inputs I gave it (buttons or pedals). I did the scroll wheel reboot using the buttons and eventually the MCU came up and I could enter the pin and begin driving. If what I experienced is normal an MCU failure could leave you stranded unless Tesla can remotely access the car or some other method is found to circumvent the pin requirement (which may be counter-intuitive given the whole point of having a pin in the first place). It seems obvious now that an MCU outage shouldn t bypass the pin but it may be something that you (and definitely I) had not taken into consideration when enabling that feature. Bottom line: if you have a pin set and experience a failure of your MCU you may be unable to drive. -DJ in Maryland | 2018-10-11 22:34:43 | 6 | Um sounds like computer crashed you rebooted then it was fine. What s the issue here? | 2018-10-11 23:08:47 | 21 | Model 3 phone key issues | 15,222 |
What happened to Supercharger V3? | After watching a video on the new Charge Point 400kw fast charging I remembered reading about Tesla brining out a new supercharger. So what happened to Supercharger V3? | 2017-08-12 14:09:12 | 39 | Everyone knows it s coming it s just a matter of when Tesla is ready to announce it. I think that is going to be an integral part of the Tesla Semi announcement next month. It also might be related to the markings underneath the Model 3 and the patent related to auxiliary cooling built into the ground at some new superchargers (the one from Spain is what I m referring to). One of the hurdles to charging faster is getting rid of the extra heat so you don t fry the batteries. | 2017-08-12 14:14:05 | 29 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 22,668 |
difference between 2017 - 2018 - 2019 M3 s | Is there really a big difference between the cars and their editions I cant seem to find any info or videos of them to really compare them. Im currently looking at a 2017 Long range M3 for $42k and im debating if i should grab this used car or simply go with a new 2019 M3 standard rage since they re finalizing at the same price. I live in California and rarely go out (but plan to once I get a M3) so I m not even sure if long range will be more of a luxury or end up coming in handy. | 2019-06-19 05:44:35 | 5 | A lot of parts have changed since 2017. The gen1 seats alone would be a deal breaker for me. | 2019-06-19 06:31:16 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,355 |
Need help calculating real life winter range. | Hello Tesla fans I m in the process of trying to figure out which Model 3 version to get. The standard battery is within my budget. The mid-range battery is a stretch. And the long-range battery is out of reach. Living in Toronto Canada winter conditions are a concern. I did some quick spreadsheet calculations for range (see pic). Can you guys please check and comment on my assumed numbers. Specifically the Drop ChargeTo and DontGoUnder numbers. Are they realistic? Also how much of a range reduction should I expect if I can t plug in at my destinations during the winter? The car will be left in the cold outside for up to 8 hours before driving back home. If my numbers are right the standard battery is what I need. The only thing is that I will have to drive the ICE car to my weekend destination during the winter. https: i.redd.it p461vsnowxu11.jpg | 2018-10-28 14:51:54 | 16 | Expect 25% range reduction. It s a good approximation. Beyond that it s hard to calculate. | 2018-10-28 14:58:37 | 11 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 13,673 |
Is Tesla right to hold out on CarPlay and Android Auto integration? | I know I know the predominant opinion here is that Tesla s infotainment system is so wrapped up into the car that a system like CarPlay wouldn t be able to replace it. I m aware the screen is used for integral car functions and that the navigation is aware of your charge level and routes you to Superchargers. However CarPlay and Android Auto are becoming better at a rate Tesla won t be able to compete. & #x200B **Things Tesla will never be able to compete with:** * 3rd Party App Support: Apple recently allowed more types of apps to integrate with CarPlay including Parking and Food Ordering Apps. Apple already allows audio and messaging apps as well. This means I can use WhatsApp Overcast Audible Spotify and much more without having to touch my phone. Soon Starbucks will probably be added to that list. You can also use other navigation apps like Waze that provide features Tesla does not like police warnings. Even \*if\* Tesla allows 3rd Party apps if you are a developer it won t be worth having resources allocated to Tesla s proprietary system when CarPlay and Android Auto cover 99% of cars. * 1st Party Phone Integration: With CarPlay and Android Auto your phone integrates completely. Siri and Google Assistant work quickly and can actually show you things instead of relying on audio only. You can run Siri Shortcuts. Things like Calendar appointments and iOS location sharing all work from CarPlay. Tesla will never be able to have this level of integration. CarPlay doesn t need to take over the whole screen- many manufactures have CarPlay and their own system coexist. Nearly every manufacturer has caved an added it. From the most luxurious brands to the most economical CarPlay and Android Auto are becoming [ubiquitous](https: www.apple.com ios carplay available-models ). I think Tesla s [NIH](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Not_invented_here) Behavior can t last forever. Edit: To all those saying they hate CarPlay and AA and they don t want it... well what about making it an option like BMW or Mercedes? Implementing the API would be relatively simple for a company Tesla s size. It could be a toggle. | 2020-06-24 21:51:27 | 402 | I agree. They gotta figure out a way to integrate CarPlay AA so that it can work in conjunction with the current Tesla features. Maybe they could partner with Android Apple to bring native apps to the car rather than having a UI window pop up that has the CarPlay AA interface? Support for Podcast apps Apple Music SiriusXM etc would make the car so much better. | 2020-06-24 22:14:00 | 193 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 9,900 |
Does autopilot move over for cyclists? | I had a scary moment passing a group of cyclists on the side of the road and was expecting my Tesla to at least stay in the middle of the lane if not hedge over to the left similar to how it has been doing while passing a large truck lately. However if anything it was closer to the right side and I had to take over to not get dangerously (or at least inconsiderately) close to the bikers. Has anyone seen any protective measures for cyclists or is this a use case where I should just take AP off? | 2020-06-09 15:47:13 | 15 | No | 2020-06-09 15:47:36 | 56 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 5,495 |
Unable to get my Model 3 yesterday | I ll try my best not to rant but to say the least I m very disappointed with my experience up to this point. I purchased a Model 3 last month. It was easy to order and my sales rep was great. I am leasing through Tesla and had been waiting to get my contract paperwork as my account told me they were getting it in order. Last week I get a text asking me to schedule my pickup date. I was so excited! My wife is on the lease too and has to also be at the service center for pickup. We work very different schedules so it was a big to do to get a time that worked for both of us. I still haven t received my paperwork. I called Tesla and left a few messages at my local center asking when it would come so I could pay via ACH. Nothing. The day of my pickup came so I called again and was still unable to get someone on the phone. So I finally hit the extension for the service department just to see if I could get a human. I did and they put me on the phone with a sales person. I told him I was in the dark about payments. He said the contract was still being written up and to just being a personal check. Ok. So I did. My fiancé and I drove an hour and twenty minutes to the service center to get the car. I had work about an hour and a half after our scheduled pickup tome but I was told the pickup would be between 15 and 30 min. When we showed up the guy at reception told me the paperwork was being drawn up and to wait. So we did. For 45 minutes. During this time we were spoken to once. The staff seemed more concerned with getting the Thermostat in the show room just right than us. The woman who seemed to be handling our pickup told us the paperwork was only half done which was “odd for them” But that it would be done soon. I let them know I had to leave for work soon and they said they would ask for a rush on the paperwork. They came back and told us that it would take up to two hours. But that they would be willing to deliver the car to us. This seemed like a reasonable compromise. They told us they would be in contact the next day (today). Today came and went. I called at the end of business. The guy I spoke to didn t know anything about what I was talking about. Said it would be hard for them to schedule a delivery. That they would “be in touch with me.” I m so disappointed. I have been looking forward to getting a Tesla for years. The experience had left me feeling completely in the dark. As if I m not valued to them because I m JUST getting a model 3 and that I m JUST LEASING. TLDR: Trying to lease a Tesla. Didn t get to pick up my car on the scheduled day. No one has been in contact with me even thorough they said they were going to make it a priority. EDIT: Update. Called in again today and got someone helpful. They had scheduled the delivery for Saturday. No email no phone call. And a time when I told them I wasn t available (I ll be at work). They are going to try and reschedule for later in the day when I m available. Fingers crossed. | 2019-12-12 01:18:10 | 44 | It really is a shame that a year after we went rethought mountains of garbage on our delivery I still read stories like yours. All I can say is keep trying. Tesla corporate refused to do anything initially when I escalated to them after the local center manager had gotten to where he wouldn t return calls. Finally got corporate to call someone that was akin to a regional manager who made things happen (they absolutely would not give me their contact info). It s like no one can figure anything out and they get to where they hide under the desk instead of having to tell you they don t know either. It was a total disaster but eventually got an X - just not what we ordered and had a cosmetic blemish on trim. Needless to say we decided to not buy another Tesla because of this experience. Even if they turn around their act I can t see us trusting them. | 2019-12-12 01:33:23 | 33 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 21,675 |
In 30 years there will be people who have never ridden in an ICE. | We just got our Y. Never the same after. It struck me today I never rode in a horse drawn buggy. I was born just over 50 years after cars became dominant in 1915. My great grandchildren may be much the same. They might be even fearful of having explosive fluids with you or why it has to make noise. | 2020-07-02 19:20:53 | 243 | I live near elementary school whenever I drive by it kids scream with delight: Tesla Tesla Tesla-I know Tesla s future is great. | 2020-07-02 19:42:32 | 95 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,600 |
Anybody Use the HomeLink Feature? | I may be interested in purchasing the HomeLink garage opener but wanted to hear about some experiences other Tesla owners have had with it. Does the garage door automatically open as you drive up to it or is it a button you have to push on the touchscreen? Would love to hear your thoughts. | 2019-07-21 12:39:13 | 8 | No button pushing...that s for commoners. GPS-based. It is my favorite feature. | 2019-07-21 12:47:39 | 50 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,798 |
Model 3 driving through flooded roads? | So I m saving up for a model 3 and my dream died a little today I found out that the street where I park my car for work gets flooded during heavy storms (about 2ft of water) and its impossible to get around it. Knowing that Tesla cars have a vent at the bottom is it ok to drive through a flooded road(about 2 blocks) ? EDIT: seems like I cant math properly it was about 11in not 2 feet | 2019-07-08 20:38:05 | 9 | Regardless of the car do NOT drive on flooded roads. | 2019-07-08 21:01:22 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,149 |
Indianapolis Supercharger down for nonpayment | Just an fyi. The Indianapolis Supercharger is down for nonpayment. The electric company was there when I pulled up. I now have 1% charge left. | 2016-04-18 17:12:41 | 104 | First supercharger trip in the car. The wife was not happy we were taking it instead of her car. I told her it would be an adventure. Turns out we were both right. | 2016-04-18 18:08:31 | 69 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 9,667 |
UK Charging network | I popped in to the Tesla store in Cambridge this week hoping to get a bit more info on the UK charging network. The guy in there told me there were no plans for city based superchargers like in the US and that he wasn t aware of plans for destination charging here either. He said everyone would have to charge at home and use service station superchargers on the road. This isn t really practical for me as I park on street 100m away from my flat. I was quite surprised by his answers. Suggests there will be very little charging support from Tesla in the UK which seems strange and at odds with other countries Can anyone shed any light? Was he just chatting shit? | 2017-12-08 13:28:33 | 13 | There are actually 18-20 Supercharger locations (varying number of actual units) being built in the UK due by the end of 2018. The urban Superchargers probably will come here but they have to contend with Charge Master PODPoint and all the other electric car charging companies that are numerous in the UK. Have a look at ZapMap https: www.zap-map.com and you ll understand why you don t ever have to worry about places to charge. The idea of an EV though is you treat it as you do your phone charge at home over night. There are options for those without driveways or garages but it s few and far between at the moment. https: youtu.be rKaEhBjt1ls is an example of one. | 2017-12-08 13:55:24 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,587 |
Trading in a car check your title ahead of time | This won t apply to most people but you know the old if I can just help one person adage so I decided to post. When I went to get a reprint of my title for my old car because I couldn t find it I discovered there is a lien on it. This is a used car I bought from a dealer more than 10 years ago and paid for in cash. Looks like the dealer screwed up when filing paperwork and I never caught it. It s been about a week and still not cleared up but finally talked to the right person at Bank Of America today and should be resolved in the next few days. Hoping the E\-Title system works as quick as it should since it s all electronic now but I do live in Florida so... Since I m doing a trade in with Tesla this has pushed back my delivery date even though my Model 3 is already at my pickup location. We re only talking an added week here but when you ve been waiting for over 2 years this last stretch already feels like forever without these kind of problems. | 2018-05-04 19:25:13 | 36 | Definitely helpful. Thanks! | 2018-05-04 19:56:06 | 5 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 21,431 |
Feature Request: Link Vent Positions to Driver Profiles | I like the air as cold as possible and right at me my wife likes it a littler warmer and not directly blowing on her. It would be great to link the vent positions and possible the climate control to the driver profile so that my wife doesn t get blasted when she gets in and I don t think man I m hot in here and then realize the vents are pointing away from me. Edit: I am specifically talking about so it saves it for both sides of front vent so if I m driving it changes for my wife in passenger vents and the reverse situation for me. | 2018-07-06 21:05:32 | 118 | Your wife doesn t like to get blasted? Sorry bro had to do it haha. | 2018-07-06 21:09:21 | 34 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 6,441 |
How to vote on the Merger? | hey so how do i vote on the Merge of Tesla & Solar City? | 2016-11-04 20:18:12 | 18 | Was wondering the same thing. I own my stock through robinhood. Anyone get a notice from them? | 2016-11-04 22:34:52 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,636 |
Product Obsolescence in EVs | Question for everyone here I m currently driving a Macan and considering the move to a Model 3. So far I ve been pretty impressed with the drive and clearly the tech in it. However my biggest fear in committing to a purchase is whether EV technology is going to accelerate so rapidly in the next five to ten years that a model 3 today will have laughable range tech so that it s sticker value is diminished significantly. Thinking about it this way you can still walk into a Porsche dealership and find a 1995 911 that retains a very high value. In essence will the reliance on the “tech de jour” seal the fate of a car s future worth when that tech becomes so obsolete to be laughable? What I m getting at is that I worry I might be driving around a 1994 Hewlett Packard in five years... | 2019-05-02 02:32:17 | 6 | Yeah but my 2015 P85D still shits on everything currently on the market tech and performance wise | 2019-05-02 02:35:23 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,600 |
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[Tesla Store] Ordered a Tesla Wall charger and received two charging units. Anyone have a similar experience? | Hey All & #x200B Ordered a Tesla charger from the store and they sent two units ([https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ](https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ)). I have spent a good twenty minutes trying to contact Tesla and have called them and emailed twice but still no response. Has anyone had this happen before and get subsequently contacted by Tesla for a return? My ultimate plan will be to sell it 2nd hand if they fail to get back to me after a month. Not fond of storing their equipment and taking that liability for more than a month. | 2021-07-29 17:47:19 | 38 | According to the FTC legally you don t have to return it: https: www.consumer.ftc.gov articles what-do-if-youre-billed-things-you-never-got-or-you-get-unordered-products#unordered | 2021-07-30 01:16:45 | 80 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,226 |
Cant decide on seats | Putting in an order soon for a model s 75d. Still torn on cream leather or the white vegan seats. White looks good but my biggest concern is which seats will hold up over time longer. I plan on keeping the car 10 years at least. Anyone have any insight? What exactly are the white seats made of? | 2017-08-28 16:35:03 | 14 | **None** of the Tesla Premium Seats are leather anymore. They re all the vegan alternative. The alternatives address leathers issue with stretching and creasing and should look good longer than leather. Either way if you truly want leather you can get the Classic Black seats on the 75 kwh cars only but I can t imagine why you d do that. > What exactly are the white seats made of? I used to know this but it escapes me every time. | 2017-08-28 16:38:29 | 17 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 3,654 |
Fully autonomous cars and police stops. What will the car do? | I am assuming officer error and not car error and the officer wants to pull over a speeding Tesla or a Tesla that failed to yield. Will the car know it is being stopped? What is the officer going to do with a stopped empty car if it does? | 2016-10-20 13:20:38 | 27 | What will happen at check points when I m wasted in the back seat ? | 2016-10-20 13:43:06 | 41 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 7,052 |
Question: Standard Tires | Tried searching this sub as well as looked all over Tesla s website. Do all Model S wheels come with high performance tires? Or do 19 come with all seasons (either now or at any point in the past)? Thanks! | 2017-08-05 22:11:23 | 6 | Mine came with Goodyear Eagle Touring tires. I don t know much about tires so hopefully that s enough information for you. | 2017-08-05 23:03:24 | 2 | Model Y Wheel Options | 15,945 |
Marginal charge current for Model S. | Does anyone know how much current is required as overhead while charging in a benign environment i.e. if charging at 10A 240V Single phase AC how much goes to the battery and how much does the rest of the single AC charger equipped Model S need when the garage temperature is around 20 centigrade (68F). I m thinking of a 70D but I imagine it would be much the same for all variants. | 2015-06-16 01:50:56 | 7 | You can find this question raised and addressed countless of times on TMC and TM forums. It s a Groundhog Day question for sure but I ll bite. There s an interesting history to it. In the early days many owners complained of a ‘vampire drain of about 3 kWh day. Tesla then implemented an energy-saving mode feature and when it s enabled (to use for example when parked long-term at an airport) it reduces the drain to roughly 1 kWh day. Some active systems must remain on such as the BMS (Battery Management System) which protects the battery from temp extremes. So you can expect this draw to drain energy whether the car is plugged in or not. (Edit: there is a way to turn the car off entirely but know why when to do that.) To calculate this loss imagine a meter (Meter A) at your wall outlet. Meter A will measure what comes out the socket. There s another meter which is what the car displays showing you what the battery is receiving (Meter B). Because of vampire drain and inefficiency losses naturally the measure at Meter A will be higher than the measure at Meter B. What the battery gets will be the net of the the vampire drain and line loss (charging inefficiency the EPA calculates an ~8% line loss when charging). Another method is to keep it unplugged car and log the rated miles daily. Each day it will drop. Take the total rated miles lost divided by the number of days to get the avg daily drop. Multiply that by the owner s historical avg Wh mi and that will give the daily capacity loss due to vampire drain. So if I lose 10 rated miles day and my avg Wh mi is 300 Wh mi then I m losing 3 kWh day. You ll hear terms like wall-to-wheel energy consumed wall-to-battery battery-to-wheel. In the end just keep it plugged in at home. It s still much cheaper than gas. Add solar. | 2015-06-16 07:19:28 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,371 |
Q: Charging at home if time is not a factor is it cheaper to charge with regular dryer 220v wall socket or 60a high power wall connector? | i know the differences are minimal but since i have no way of knowing exactly how much it costs per charge i d love to know which i should charge with. i can either charge during the day at my business (tesla wall charger) or at home overnight. which would you go with? | 2016-04-04 23:45:30 | 9 | Should be the same: [this](https: www.teslamotors.com models-charging# calculator) might be useful. | 2016-04-04 23:52:36 | 3 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 15,710 |
Advice on Installing Charger | Hey Everyone I am looking to get a Model 3 (had reservation from day 1) and assume I need a charger. However my house has limited space I want to keep some flexibility and I don t really know what I need. I am assuming I need to have an electrition come in run a new high voltage line and I need a charger installed on the wall. Is that right? *Background* 1. My house has twin garage doors but one door (the left one) is only half deep and can t fit a car. A car can only fit one right right. There is a small pillar between the two doors. 2. In the driveway we have room for two cars one in front of each garage door (and thus blocking in a car in the garage unless you start jockeying them around). 3. We will have three cars - the new car my SO s car and a classic 944 Porsche (not a chance I am getting rid of it). 4. The Tesla Model 3 is not set in stone - I have considered getting a used BMW i3 or similar for 1 3 the money. 5. My SO was considering getting a plugin car in the next few years as well. Therefore we probably want to plan for the flexibility to charge two cars without too much extra installation. 6. My HOA can sometimes go from zero to freakout faster than a Model S. Therefore I need to keep it neat looking. 7. Sorry moving and or massive construction is not a viable option :-) Photo: http: imgur.com a GfYQm *Thinking* I was thinking the Model 3 would need to be parked on the driveway on the right (blocking the door) with the Porsche in the garage. This makes it easy to drive the Model 3 without having to move cars around keeps the 944 protected and the 944 get s driven only occasionally anyways. The SO can then park on the left so she can get out easily. This means I need to get the charger installed outside. I was thinking maybe on the pillar between the two garage doors? Alternatively it could be on the pillar to the right of the right door (which is next to the front door). I was hoping if it was in the middle pillar then the second charger could be installed right under the first one using a single line. If it is on the far pillar then a future second charger would need to be on the opposite pillar requiring a second line. This also assumes the charger can be installed outside to begin with. Of course the other issue is the HOA. I don t want them freaking out over the cables. Is there some way to install something retractable that would make it look neat? If they get angry over a left out garbage can or garden hose imagine how they would feel about a vehicle charging cable. Thanks for any thoughts and suggestions. | 2017-08-25 14:29:22 | 13 | > There is a small pillar between the two doors. This is where I put mine. This way I can charge in the garage or run the cable under a door and charge in the driveway. Wiring advice: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 5mdmjr replacing_electrical_panel_what_should_i_have dc2ufoz | 2017-08-25 15:00:38 | 3 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 1,286 |
Tesla is Getting New Apparel in Their Stores Soon | I was talking to one of the product specialist about the clothing that they had at the store and she told me that they were getting new apparel soon! | 2014-07-03 15:47:12 | 13 | Yeah Elon mentioned it during the shareholder meeting. | 2014-07-03 16:00:00 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,914 |
The model S is currently one of the fastest cars in a straight line but what is stopping the car from being a sports-car ? | In a petrol sports car you can pretty much stomp the go pedal until you run out of fuel. In a Tesla model S it will limit the power after a while to prevent damaging the driveline. As far as I ve understood this is mostly caused by the heating from the battery and the motor(s). Are there any other problems with building a good mix between sustained WOP and daily drivability like the ICE industry does sometimes? I can imagine the Roadster driveline is very different for this very reason. If one would compare the two what would be the major differences pertaining to this problem? And what is realistically stopping model S from being able to keep up with for instance a BMW M5 for a few hot laps on a circuit? There is of course the issue of battery weight but we ll leave that out of it for a second. Edit: I understand it s not a smart move and I didn t ask for practicality just curious. | 2015-08-17 10:57:04 | 9 | I remember reading somewhere they made this choice deliberately. It s possible to improve the cooling system (see the Audi R8 e-tron) but that would increase weight and cost. For something nearly no-one would use. Think about it: when and where can you really use the full power? Even on the Autobahn you d be limited to 250km h which is doable with the current cooling system. People who want to take the S on a circuit would account for less than a percent of all owners is that enough the force the other owners to pay more? And yes making it an option would increase complexity in the production line also increasing the price. | 2015-08-17 11:26:56 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,829 |
Are EVs in Hawaii viable without Solar Panels? | So long story short I did all the math and given the cost of electricity in Hawaii it seems that running an EV is more expensive than a hybrid vehicle such as a Prius. Currently I live in the Seattle metro day 1 reservation but due to unforseen circumstances I will be moving to the Big Island next summer. Based upon the My Tesla page I should be getting my Model 3 well before I move. Washington state enjoys some of the lowest if not the lowest electricity rates in the country(~7.1 cents kWh) but the Big Island is among the highest at roughly 31 cents kWh. There is no guarantee I will end up with a solar panel equipped home or that I will be able to afford to install one especially after purchasing the 3. There are other potential reservations I have with owning a Model 3 on the Big Island there is no service center there so either they will have to fly in to do services from Honolulu or worse ship my car to Honolulu. That sounds like a nightmare. I love Tesla as much as anyone else. I ve owned a significant chunk of stock for over 3 years now. But I just don t see this being a smart decision for me other than I get to drive a fun and very cool car. But if I were the type of guy who cared about that I wouldn t be driving a Prius right now. :) Any comments or opinions on this are greatly appreciated. Thanks. | 2017-08-02 15:50:15 | 10 | Let s math it out. First - how much is gas in HI? Internet tells me around $3 on average. And then let s say you have a 75 kWh battery. Costs around $23.50 to fill up. It ll get you around 300 miles. Let s say your ICE gets 30 MPG. That means it s $30 (10 gallons) to fill up for 300 miles. The Tesla is still better - in this scenario. But you d have to consider a more efficient ICE or changing prices price of the vehicle over time etc. Lots of factors to consider. | 2017-08-02 15:58:20 | 4 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 2,137 |
When will the Model X configurator open up for us poor people to play with? | Like many of you I build variations of Model S at least once per day. I d love to have to opportunity to daydream about my ideal Model X too. Any idea on when the configurator will be open to all? | 2016-02-13 15:50:46 | 82 | Well they did say on the last earnings call that they re really trying to do whatever they can to *not* encourage demand. Musk even went as far as to say that they re trying to suppress demand since they have such a backlog of X orders that there is really no point until they can fulfill those orders first. So I imagine opening up the configurator to the public could potentially encourage demand theoretically. So no idea really... | 2016-02-13 16:31:45 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,171 |
Let s play! - S100D pricing | So after the introduction of the 70D most of us agree that before the end of year 2015 we will have an upgrade to the size of the 85Kwh battery toward the 100 Kwh mark. I expect to have an upcost of 5000€ (I m in France so for you anglophiles it should be around 5000$) which will bring the S100D at a base price of about 85000€ (since we benefit from a state bonus for electric vehicles of 6300€ that is already deducted from the base price). For this price upgrade they might put either more cells to up capacity to 100Kwh or an improve cell chemistry and add free Autopilote for good measure. Do you think it feasible? My guess would be that before the 3 to 6 months we ll see this upgrade to the 85 battery. | 2015-04-13 09:16:48 | 10 | > **most of us agree** that before the end of year 2015 we will have an upgrade to the size of the 85Kwh battery toward the 100 Kwh mark. I m pretty sure most of us agree that this will not happen. Musk said it when talking about the Roadster upgrage. He said the Model S will not have an upgrade for years. | 2015-04-13 12:03:12 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,828 |
Model 3 in Green? | I noticed there is no Green option of any sort for the current Tesla models. What do you think the odds of Tesla making a green Model 3? If not what does a repaint cost? My wifes Fav Colour. | 2016-05-24 00:16:26 | 8 | A real shame. I too wish you could order the green. Discontinued in 2014 I think I read? Let s get people on the internet to agree with us and lobby Tesla :) | 2016-05-24 01:07:19 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,208 |
Model 3 outside temperature reading way off and AC won t turn on | Just wondering if anyone has encountered a similar issue to mine. I ve had my Model 3 since August 2019 and have been loving it for the most part up until yesterday. I noticed shortly after I got the car that the outside temperature would be quite off compared to what it actually was but only occasionally and it wasn t really a big deal. Over the past couple weeks however this has become a consistent thing often saying it s -15C when it s actually warm out in the 15-20C range. Then yesterday it was saying -39C when it was around 23C outside and I couldn t get the AC to blow cold air even on the lowest temperature setting. I installed the latest software update just last night and also did a hard reset but that didn t help anything. I m assuming this is something I will need to bring it into a service center for (didn t give mobile service option in the app for AC issue) but the closest one to me is a ferry trip away so just thought I d check here first just in case. Thanks! Edit: Thought I would update in case anyone is searching for this same issue. I took it in to get fixed and it turns out the issue was just the temperature sensor not being connected correctly. Really easy fix that a mobile tech could have done but since I put it in as a heating AC issue on the app it didn t give me that option. They said if I had put it as miscellaneous instead I could have booked a mobile tech to come have a look and saved myself the ferry trip so good to know for future. | 2020-05-29 18:59:42 | 12 | Last year I had rodents eat my wires causing the temperature to display --- had the same issues with the ac they replaced the harness for around $200 and its been good ever since. So since yours is actually reporting a temperature the sensor is probably damaged. | 2020-05-29 21:51:05 | 11 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 12,289 |
Is Premium Connectivity worth it? | I m a brand new Tesla Model 3 owner (got it yesterday) and up until now I have been using Apple Music or Google Music connected via bluetooth to my car. However neither of those have native options. This brings up a thought of switching to Spotify but I m hesitant to do so. So this leads me to my question: with the exception of the music streaming service of Spotify how worth it is it to have the premium connectivity? Since the navigation still uses traffic (albeit you can t see the live traffic) to navigate you to your destination is there anything else that would make me want to buy it? | 2020-04-21 19:43:30 | 7 | I would wait on that decision until your year of premium connectivity runs out. You may find that they add remove things to the feature set over the next year that will sway your opinion. You re only one day in man... Just enjoy the car. | 2020-04-21 19:45:02 | 31 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 9,873 |
Used Tesla: process details and experience! | Last month I bought a used 2019 Tesla Model 3 LR from Tesla directly and want to share my experience. Trying to organize this somewhat well but sure I might miss a few things. Feel free to ask any questions! **The Car Details** Pearl White 2019 Tesla Model 3 LR with 12k Miles. FSD sport rims and acceleration boost included. **The Numbers** The car was priced at $47 200 and financed it through my credit union at 2.68% APR for 72 months. At 23 years old with a clean record my insurance through Progressive ended up being about $160 a month for full coverage and a $500 deductible. Everywhere else I got a quote was around $300 a month not sure why progressive was so much less. **New vs Used?** The decision was between a brand new Model 3 LR or a used one which both work out to be about the same cost (with delivery fees I believe a brand new one ends up being $1k more). Additionally the used cars come with a 1yr added on the basic warranty. So essentially I d get roughly the same warranty whether I bought new or used given mine is a 2019. With a new one I d get the power lift gate no existing miles and longer range. With a used one I could get nicer rims FSD and the acceleration boost. Ultimately it was whether I valued the cool tech or longer range. **Used Car Shopping** I only wanted to go through Tesla given the extended warranty. Upon looking at the site I could see the used inventory and look through different models. After talking to a used car sales advisor he told me Tesla no longer gives the option to see photos of the car and referred me to their [used car standards ](https: www.tesla.com support ordering-used-tesla#vehicle-condition). I also discovered that the condition of the car has no effect on price. The key factor in pricing is how long the car has been on the site. Seems this the site incrementally reduces the price until they sell. There were identical cars with more miles non-sport rims that were going for $1-2k more than mine. I went through the list and the advisor told me how long each had been on the site. Ultimately mine had been on the site for upwards to a month while the others had been on there for a week or so. Hence why mine was a better value and had a lower price. Tesla also adds FSD and the acceleration boost to cars as a means to add more value to them. **Delivery** My car was located in Auburn WA and I picked it up at a Seattle area service center. From buying the car to being told it was ready for delivery was a week. Delivery day was a poor customer experience but was expected given Tesla does not really value their used car sales. I had an appointment scheduled but seemed like everyone was heading out for the day. Took them probably 30min to actually pull the car out. The guy seemed pissed he had to grab my car. He eventually pulled it out and helped me set up my phone key. It was dark but I walked around the car looking for any cosmetic issues. Inside I noticed large white scuffs on the back of the seats. The advisor pulled the car to the back and seem to wipe them off then drive the car back up. Besides that the car was in great condition. Didn t notice any chips scratches or paint issues at all. I do honestly question whether Tesla actually conducted a 145 pt inspection on the car. As soon as I drove off I realized all the tires were about 10 PSI low and the TPMS light was on. They were already shutting the the place down for the night so was too late to go back. **One month in** I ve really enjoyed the car. Still honestly shocked that I haven t found any cosmetic issues with the paint or other issues. Anyways hoping this info helps others looking at buying used! | 2020-12-23 04:25:27 | 15 | Very similar story on a 2018 LR M3. Made the Decatur store clean the M3 from top to bottom. The car inside had not been touched. I also asked my rep Jim McNeil to send out a ranger to give my M3 a good honest once over. As I doubt a 145 point inspection has been done as well. Car has been great. We have FSD homelink HW3 etc. We got all of this for $38k. It was a good deal for me. Let s hope this all pans out. The customer service was not great but the folks at Decatur tried to make it right. Their parking lot is waaaaay to small. They need to be based out of some of these empty mall parking lots so they can have room to fit all the cars. | 2020-12-23 04:38:26 | 5 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 21,923 |
Request: Disable window controls when in Dog Mode! | I would think this would be a no brainer. My dog has learned how to roll the window down in my Model Y in order to stick her head out and smell. I came out of a store near a supercharger a few days ago and saw that she had rolled the window down about halfway while I had the car in Dog Mode. She is the type that absolutely would jump out of the window if something nearby got her stirred up. Does anyone else want this? | 2022-04-04 00:30:42 | 322 | My dog actually escaped out of the car while I was out grocery shopping a couple weeks ago.. luckily she stayed close to the car and waited for me but that was scary. | 2022-04-04 01:52:09 | 103 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,489 |
Will the Model 3 undergo a platform fork between now and when production starts? | The reservation numbers are good but I have seen a number of people who were a little wary of the vulnerable nature of the large curved glass roof. I have also seen many people lament the small trunk space(even though the frunk and trunk add up to a lot). When we see how the Chrysler minivan spawned floods of similar vehicles I wonder how many people would like a hatchback for the storage of bigger objects. I read that there is a metal roof choice that will emerge but I can not see that on the website. In addition large numbers of cars only have one or two people in them (like me). | 2016-04-05 12:37:07 | 5 | > the small trunk space Trunk opening. The trunk itself looks pretty big and will be bigger in the production version. As for a hatch I certainly would *like* them to fork the platform and offer a hatch variant (which would increase its appeal in Europe most manufacturers don t even offer sedan versions of their cars like the Civic and Auris (Corolla)). While I think that hatchbacks are objectively more practical it does make some sense for Tesla to prioritise the US preferences and call it a day. They need to keep manufacturing costs low and they have enough preorders that they shouldn t have to worry about it for the time being. edit: Maybe it s fairer to compare Tesla to Audi BMW and MB instead of Toyota and Honda. They all offer sedans at this price point in Europe that sell alright. BMW and Audi offer hatchback sportback variants but not MB as far as I m aware. | 2016-04-05 12:53:25 | 9 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 23,695 |
My only concern with owning a Tesla. | I have to admit my current car (Toyota Matrix) has been ridiculously cheap to maintain. I ve spent a total of ~$1500 on replacing parts out of warranty (including labor). I ve done ~34 oil changes by now totaling to ~$1700 (no labor I did all this myself). I ve replaced tires twice to a total of about ~$1200. The total comes to ~$4400 over 10yrs of ownership & ~170K miles. I fully understand my current car falls in a different market. I am prepared mentally on having to spend more on parts if needed. I just hope when the time comes parts are readily available so I can do the work myself if I choose to. I hope Tesla aftermarket parts will eventually benefit from the same economies of scale as the batteries especially the Model 3. | 2016-06-10 20:10:50 | 7 | It s still a Toyota Matrix. | 2016-06-10 20:14:55 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,467 |
Ford dealership sales guy just lied to me when I told him why I bought a Tesla. | So I picked up an incredible Model 3 LR AWD yesterday and am loving it. Today I returned a lease for a Ford fusion energi phev. The lease wasn t due until October but the amount of payments I had left worked out to less money than I d be getting from the tax credit before the end of quarter. When he asked what car I got I told him a Tesla and he asked why. I told him Ford does not have a 200+ mile range all electric car and he said one was coming out next month. Not wanting to argue I just said well it s too late now. The long range EV he was probably talking about is the unannounced Mach E and there is no way they start deliveries next month. It s not even official to the best of my knowledge and even if it were there is no way it s coming to Michigan initially (even though that s their home turf) I m not even sure why he had to lie as I told him I already picked up the car. | 2019-06-20 23:48:09 | 1,657 | Even if they were launching something they re years behind. Now you have the Supercharger Network software updates and a fart app. Nothing else comes close 👍🏻🤓 | 2019-06-20 23:56:23 | 1,478 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 6,894 |
Is Tesla Discontinuing Apparel Sales? | My local Tesla store is completely out of stock of any apparel accessories. The shelves are just bare which looks a little strange. The only answer I could get from the sales guy was a non-committal opinion that he thought all apparel sales were gong through the on-line store now. Meanwhile the [on-line U.S. shop](https: shop.tesla.com us en category apparel.html) appears to be running out of stock while the EU shop was taken down. Anyone know if they are getting out of the apparel business? | 2017-09-05 23:20:04 | 19 | They ve been phasing apparel out for the last year. They are going to make room for solar shingle and powerwall displays. But they aren t quite ready yet. | 2017-09-06 00:29:25 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,884 |
Canada s Electric Highway is about to be released by Petro Canada. | My wife works for Suncor Canada. She had a meeting today and they were told that Petro Canada is about to release their Canada s Electric Highway (it s a trans Canada fast charing network). You can see the entire map on their website --> [https: www.petro-canada.ca en personal fuel ev-fast-charge-network](https: www.petro-canada.ca en personal fuel ev-fast-charge-network) **When is the CCS adapter coming?** For now it s free so it would be amazing to be able to use it with my M3. | 2019-12-17 23:45:44 | 193 | Yah I wish they would just release the CCS1 adapter already I would buy one in a heartbeat. It s like the only place where Tesla vehicles seems inferior not being able to use CCS. On a side note: a familiar sight on Petro Canada website [https: i.imgur.com Sllv0fC.jpg](https: i.imgur.com Sllv0fC.jpg) | 2019-12-17 23:48:32 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,610 |
Germany trying to fuck up Tesla once again! | A few years ago Germany created a EV purchase incentive but in a way that Tesla would not be covered by only allowing it for cars on which there was at least a model below 60.000€. This changed with the Model 3. Not happy with it Merkle has a new climate change fighting plan that wants to push EV car purchase... by dropping that limit to 40.000€! Which is just below the current cheapest Model 3! [https: www.thelocal.de 20190920 what-are-the-key-points-of-merkels-new-climate-strategy](https: www.thelocal.de 20190920 what-are-the-key-points-of-merkels-new-climate-strategy) | 2019-09-20 18:17:09 | 58 | I do live in Germany. I already have my Model 3 so I m out of that game but I learned when I applied for the subsidies it applies to the price \*before\* taxes. So going to the Tesla website selecting the cheapest Model 3 adding 2000 to the price (to compensate for the manufacturer part already having been deducted) then subtracting the German VAT I end up at 38143 Euros putting the car well below the threshold. At least I had to put the value before taxes on the application form - if there is another trap lurking in there please tell me. :-) Edit: I found out it s \*after\* taxes. So no Tesla qualifies at this point. :-( Source: [https: www.bafa.de DE Energie Energieeffizienz Elektromobilitaet elektromobilitaet\_node.html](https: www.bafa.de DE Energie Energieeffizienz Elektromobilitaet elektromobilitaet_node.html) (no English translation available apparently sorry) | 2019-09-20 19:05:53 | 122 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 7,151 |
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