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Snow Driving | Okay I must confess that I am responsible for the deluge of snow in Northeast Ohio. I posted a query before I took delivery of my S about snow handling. I have to report that it handles superbly. In my hands it does this as well as my Subaru. | 2017-12-27 14:24:59 | 61 | Get the snow tyres ASAP. | 2017-12-27 15:28:16 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,347 |
Energy Federal Credit Union formerly lowest possible EV APR absorbed by PenFed | Looks like Energy FCU was bought by PenFed. With EFCU you used to be able to get as low as 1.49% on a 60 month loan if the vehicle was EV or hybrid. Looks like that s gone now that it was bought. (source: https: www.energyfcu.org) | 2017-01-02 22:09:24 | 12 | DCU (digital federal credit union) has 1.49% up to 65 months for EVs. Caveat is that you must direct deposit your entire paycheck. | 2017-01-02 22:21:21 | 5 | Tesla Financing Options | 6,012 |
Need Advise on Delivery Repairs | Hi I also posted this in teslamotorsclub-> Model 3 forum but I think it might get more answers here so excuse me if somebody reads the duplicate. & #x200B To make a long story short I found and documented several issues at delivery (around a month ago) of my Model 3 in SF Bay Area: 1.- Scratches in the roof 2.- Paint issues 3.- Dent in the leather in the lower middle piece in the back seat (see pictures) 4.- Some light stains in passenger and back seats (like if somebody with solar cream sat there) (see pictures) After taking it to my closest Service Center here in SF Bay Area a week ago they just called me and told me that it just came back from the body shop and roof was replaced and paint defects fixed. They don t have the Tesla logo but they will install it for free when it arrives. For fix #3 they told me they couldn t bring it up to normal look and they would like to compensate me with the first annual service valued at $850 for free. They said otherwise they would need to replace the whole seat and it s back ordered and it will take very long time. For fix #4 they promised a full detailing to try removing the stains. But when I asked him now they said that the detailing guy was out and he couldn t do it. They offered a voucher for a full detailing later on when the car is dirtier since the body shop anyway cleaned it up. So I m not sure what to do with #3 and #4. They gave me a car with a dent (look picture attached) and I feel bad if they have to replace the whole seat. I don t know what is the right compensation but I don t want them to give me something of no value (or less value they claim). Same for #4 if they don t do the full detailing and I just take the car and the stains don t go away I ll feel like they delivered a car in sub-par conditions and they didn t do anything to fix it or at least compensate in good faith. Any advise is highly appreciated it. I haven t picked up the car yet. Thanks. [Dent](https: i.redd.it t4hyx9zao2p11.jpg) & #x200B [Light stains passenger \(same in back seat\)](https: i.redd.it rzgktcffo2p11.jpg) | 2018-09-29 00:31:29 | 7 | I would have them replace the seat if it s on the table. Why should you settle for a damaged seat? | 2018-09-29 19:43:29 | 8 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 13,645 |
NoA and HOV aware Navigation fight each-other | Hello Not sure if this applies in other states as I live in Arizona and I m not sure how your HOV is set up in your state. But I ve noticed that the addition of Navigate on Autopilot and the HOV aware navigation seem to fight. In Arizona s HOV lanes you can freely exit and enter HOV at any point you re not required to enter or leave HOV at certain points. So when driving on the highway with both services enabled NOA constantly tries to push me into the HOV but can never get over due to the solid line. As well as when I m in the HOV NOA won t be able to leave the HOV lane. The two services seem to battle each other when they re both enabled but they can t coexist due to Autopilot s solid line restrictions. | 2018-11-26 17:53:47 | 14 | Same way in WA. Annoying. | 2018-11-26 19:39:53 | 13 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 14,113 |
Dear Tesla Community this is worth a short. Please come together. Will you help? | Mr. Jack Rickard an original Tesla supporter **was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer**. He shared this at the end of his latest video on battery day. He has been making wonderful videos and stuck against FUD in the dark times. He educated a lot of people on Tesla. Link to this video: [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=3ZNuAztk5g4](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=3ZNuAztk5g4) Let s please request Elon Musk to reveal under N.D.A. battery day insights to Mr. Jack. He had been eagerly waiting and making multiple videos about it. But for that we must get Elon s attention first. Can you help and come together? Dear Mods can you pin this or promote this in some way? Regards. [Mr. Jack Rickard Founder EVTV](https: preview.redd.it 3nqj3vwaq4651.jpg?width=348& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=600e285d518d8a127ed9660598886661874958e2) | 2020-06-20 21:01:53 | 471 | Very sad. I ve watched many of his videos and even drove past his shop in Cape Girardeau Missouri on a weekend Tesla adventure. | 2020-06-20 21:19:18 | 67 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,882 |
Reserved a Model 3... dumb to schedule a test drive with a P90D? | I ve never been in let alone driven a Tesla before. That didn t stop me from reserving a Model 3 though. I m wondering if it d be dumb to schedule a test drive with a P90D? I d love to experience Ludicrous mode but I also want to experience as similar a ride as possible to what the Model 3 may feel like. With that should I be test driving a 60 or 75 instead? Hell I might even be convinced that getting a 60 makes sense by the time I customize a Model 3 to what I d want... | 2016-08-01 17:54:18 | 12 | Oh no not dumb at all. Only very very expensive. (It s impossible to resist buying one once you ve tried one. Ask me how I know this. You might not end up with a P90DL but oh the hoops you ll jump through to justify getting a 60 to drive while waiting for your Model 3...) | 2016-08-01 18:35:23 | 13 | Tesla test drive experiences | 16,524 |
Model3 Surviving winter with only the Mobile Charger | I have a situation where I take delivery of my M3 in 10 days and I cannot get a powerful charger installed at my parking spot at least not affordably. My range usage is low so the mobile charger would work for me but will it be enough in winter as the car is outside ( Sweden -10c to -15c) to keep the battery warm as-well? 240v 16A is all I can get near my car. | 2019-05-15 13:51:07 | 13 | You will be fine I only had a 120v 12A charger this winter in Minnesota (pretty similar climate) and made it through. The only issue I ever had was when I was driving long distances and would just have to make sure I made it home with around 50% charge to slowly gain it lose it through the week and get it all back in the weekend. | 2019-05-15 13:53:22 | 20 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 13,076 |
Model S X Interior Materials Photos and Info | Are there any known closeups of the available interior trim options? I d like to compare the dark ash figured ash matte obeche gloss obeche and carbon fiber. Heck throw piano black and lacewood in there too if you have em. I m concerned that the dark ash is going to look like wood-looking plastic. I know the figured ash is awesome because it has a tactile wood grain feel but I didn t know that until I got to actually touch it. Also was the piano black actually wood lacquer and finish or was it just shiny black plastic? | 2016-05-06 16:31:10 | 10 | It would be nice if there were a centralized place to compare the options. I get that the configurator is designed for simplicity but I had lots of questions about the options that could easily be answered with some photos. Just for example Leather arm rests steering wheel and lower dashboard when paired with leather seating in the Model X Premium Upgrades. How does the steering wheel look without this upgrade? [A tool like this](http: www.straitstimes.com sites default files styles x_large public articles 2015 10 07 slider1.jpg?itok=K_elGbRa) would be ideal but it would require access to a lot of different Teslas to get the needed images. | 2016-05-06 16:51:08 | 5 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 12,611 |
Model 3 Vs 2018 Audi A4! | Have a reservation for Model 3 (mid-Atlantic opted for all-wheel performance with projected delivery 2018 Q1 2 or there abouts). Wife drives a 2013 A4... I m considering gifting her the Model 3 as her next car though I sense she LOVES her A4 & might like a new A4 better. Neither of us have owned driven EVs before let alone a Tesla. Does any one have any idea speculations on how Model 3 compares to A4? Appreciate input from Tesla owners with Audi experience. | 2017-12-26 17:27:44 | 22 | > Neither of us have owned driven EVs before let alone a Tesla. Sounds like someone needs to contact their local Tesla store and schedule a test drive. If you haven t driven one before you need to. I d be surprised if her opinion didn t change after a test drive. | 2017-12-26 17:41:03 | 44 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 12,046 |
Convince me that a Tesla is a better use of my money than an equally priced slightly used supercar | A Model S at least the higher end version runs anywhere from $80-120k. For that same price there are some _amazing_ cars on eBay motors with < 20 000 miles on them. I ve never bought a brand new car before because I ve always found the value of a slightly used excellent condition car to be much better so that s part of my concern here with buying a Tesla. The other part is that I really can find some incredible cars even though they re gas powered for the same price or cheaper than a Model S. | 2014-08-17 19:16:16 | 45 | I haven t been to a gas station in a year and a half. In the 1.5 years I ve had it that would have been ~**60** gas station visits with another car. Ain t nobody got time for that shit. I haven t had my oil changed. In the 1.5 years I ve had it that would have been 3-4 oil changes with another car. I don t have to get smogged this year or ever in the future. In another car I would have to do it in the next few months. I have generated more electricity off the solar panels on my roof than I ve used in the car. In my other car that would have been about 750 gallons of gasoline or about $3 000 in gas and I would have dumped about 7.5 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. I HAVE had a few issues that I ve needed to drop the car off for but it was hassle free - I dropped the car off and hopped in 1) a faster better Tesla 2) a faster better Tesla 3) a Roadster for the day while they worked on mine. Each time they ve taken it they ve fixed my issue and improved my car in some other way (wind noise above windshield gone creak in pano roof gone titanium underbody shield added etc.). A few months ago I got hill hold (Let go of brake on a hill and the car doesn t roll until you apply gas) downloaded on my car over wirelessly while I slept. A whole bunch of other minor improvements have come through as well. In my Tesla I can peel off the line to get around other cars without making an obnoxious look how big my dick is engine rev. I can fit every ounce of kitesurfing gear in my car and still have room for a couple suitcases... in the back alone and then fill the front up with groceries or bags and you can t see anything from outside the car. I can fit 5 people in there easy. I dunno man sometimes I see other really really nice much more expensive cars on the road and I m sure they go faster handle better something something than my car but I wouldn t trade mine in for any of them (except a higher model Tesla). | 2014-08-17 23:49:20 | 68 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,146 |
I have to admit Tesla s Service can actually be quite good | To start off: I do not own a Tesla and I m not native English so sometimes my sentences might sound a bit weird. Okay so I work for the Dutch variant of the AAA call center basically people who call BMW Volvo Audi VW etc. roadside assistance or the car assistance line of leasing financing companies will be answered by me or my colleagues (note we do not do the roadside assistance for Tesla). So today one customer called on his leasing company s number where he leased a Model 3 to tell my he is stuck at a supercharger in Belgium on his way to France cause he can t remove the charging cable from his car. He told me that he has already called Tesla and they were there in 15(!) minutes and were currently trying to remove the plug from the supercharger. So basically Tesla had to fix the supercharger and he called us (the leasing company) so we could arrange a rental car for his trip to France since his M3 would probably have to go to the workshop. No problem daily task so I told him to call us back when Tesla has removed the charging plug and he would be ready to pick up the rental car. Fast forwards a few hours and I called him to ask what s up with the supercharger and he said Tesla already arranged a rental car for him for his entire trip to France and Tesla would take his M3 and bring it to the workshop and fix it for him. And on the way back the customer could return his rental and pick up his (hopefully) fixed M3. So yeah some parts of aftersales might be bad (especially spare parts) but I have to say this roadside assistance is actually very good and efficient! Well done Tesla :) Tl dr: Tesla roadside assistance is actually quite good | 2019-08-11 20:17:27 | 59 | I don t know if it s the same on the Euro spec model 3 but in the US there s an emergency charge release cable in the trunk (boot). | 2019-08-11 21:00:52 | 8 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 8,906 |
Who else thinks the Model 3 is the best looking so far? | Obviously there s a lot to love with the S and the X but I honestly prefer the proportions of the 3. The nose isn t too long and just the right amount of greenhouse. Now if it only had a hatchback... | 2017-05-03 01:16:44 | 27 | It s really growing on me | 2017-05-03 01:22:40 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,320 |
Feature request: insulated heated cooled frunk | I love the frunk on my Model 3! It is great for take out food not stinking up the car. I m hoping that the Tesla Pickup would have the ability to heat cool the frunk or not if trying to save battery. It s great on road trips to be able to keep all the snacks and drinks in the frunk. I m half way through an 800 mile road trip and it would be nice to turn the frunk into essentially an insulated cooler for storing hot cold things. Take it a step further and include a drain valve in case you wanted to fill it with ice. | 2019-10-13 01:57:48 | 12 | fwiw: there are coolers that seem to fit the frunk well. | 2019-10-13 02:17:38 | 24 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 6,542 |
UPDATE: My model 3 got broken into without any forced entry | Original post is [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments byr751 my_model_3_got_broken_into_without_any_forced ) I wanted to update the sub on what happened with my car being broken into. Tesla came out and replaced the dash and entire glove box assembly. It cost $652.99 for them to do onsite service and replace it. Insurance (state farm) covered $609.23 What I found out was this: Be careful when using Summon to park your car. Basically my routine is: * Get home * Pull car into spot (halfway before the doors hit the walls) * get out (The doors usually autolock) * Start summon and pull car into spot What happens (when the car is locked) when you start summon is that the mirrors stay folded in and the car actually unlocks. So when it parks the car can remain unlocked after summoning. If you re not paying attention to the horn honk (and only the mirrors) the car can stay unlocked (especially if you don t plug it in the charger). It was a silly mistake and I have taken precautions and learned my lesson. I have the latest firmware and am pretty anal about checking if my vehicle is locked or not. I hope this helps someone out there even if this was a dumb mistake on my part. Thank you. | 2019-07-18 16:53:03 | 279 | > So when it parks the car can remain unlocked after summoning. If you re not paying attention to the horn honk (and only the mirrors) the car can stay unlocked (especially if you don t plug it in the charger). I don t think I ve ever had summon leave the car unlocked. Did Tesla say this happens or is this what you assumed happened? Editing for visibility: I have confirmed that this is how it works on my 3. I didn t believe it at first because it seems so improbable that there would be this huge of a bug in the software and left in for this long but I was wrong. | 2019-07-18 17:06:36 | 99 | Model 3 phone key issues | 21,627 |
DIY: Jackpad for TM3 | In case you didn t know its recommended to use a jackpad specialized for the Tesla. & #x200B Saved myself a few dozen bucks by making my own. The puck was $1 and I used rubber feet for furniture which cost $3. You really just need something round that is 1 inch. & #x200B End result is pretty good it fits snug in the jack spot without falling out and mine is official :) & #x200B & #x200B https: i.redd.it x3hv64go3bp21.jpg & #x200B https: i.redd.it 42p0p5br3bp21.jpg As a bonus here is how to find the center of a circle: [https: www.instructables.com id How-to-find-the-center-of-a-circle ](https: www.instructables.com id How-to-find-the-center-of-a-circle ) & #x200B & #x200B | 2019-03-30 19:21:19 | 29 | String-and-pencil is another technique without a need for a right angle. With pencil attached to the string and holding the string at the edge of the circle draw short arcs from multiple opposing sides and increasing the radius until the arcs touch tangentially. They will coalesce to the center. | 2019-03-30 20:13:22 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,431 |
[Discussion] Anyone tint the side windows but NOT the rear window? | Just got my M3 (Yay!) and debating my tint install scheduled for Tuesday. I was planning on 3M Color Stable with 50% front side windows (Utah law) and 35% back side windows. I was planning on also doing the entire rear window. After driving and riding in it I don t want the roof glass to be any darker. I m worried how it will look with the sides tinted but not the rear but the wife says it will be fine. Anyone tint the side windows but NOT the rear window? | 2018-05-25 16:23:19 | 5 | The roof portion that gets tinted is only over the rear passengers so screw them. Mine is getting tinted. | 2018-05-25 16:26:23 | 5 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 24,175 |
2017 Model S 75 Issue - Wobbles on Auto-Pilot (2.0) with 3+ people in the car only at ~65mph+ | I ve had my Model S for ~2.5 years best car I ve ever owned not close. However it s had an in-lane wobble issue with AP engaged occasionally since I ve owned it. In 2017 AP wobble issues were fairly common but were essentially eliminated with updates in early 2018. A little over a year ago it started again and I had Tesla look at it. They confirmed the issue via road test and confirmed that I had no alignment issue tires wheels were great but said updates had been released that may have bugs and updates were coming that should fix it. And that s pretty much what happened.... or so I thought. Now I m wondering if not. Took my wife and kids on a ~1500 mile drive to visit family and it was consistently wobbling to the point of being completely unusable which is so frustrating on a long drive like that. Seems to only happen with a few people in the car and only over 60 65 mph. Does pretty well without either of those conditions. To clarify when I say wobble it bounces back and forth within the lane and depending on the road can get so bad it seems incredibly dangerous. I obviously disengage before that so I can t say what would happen if I let it continue. Anyone have similar issues? Any ideas on what might be causing it or a fix? Or am I just f ed until I upgrade to FSD and get the 3.0? | 2020-07-26 22:25:42 | 25 | They confirmed the issue with your car and it doesn t happen with other AP2.0 cars? Updates to what exactly in 2018? I m not buying it. They should fix it if it only affects your car. | 2020-07-26 22:57:53 | 9 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 406 |
With the few stations that went live recently [theoretically] you can now travel from Boston to LA for free on Tesla s supercharger network. | [See the map here](http: www.teslamotors.com supercharger). I say theoretically as you would need to be able to drive 293 miles in between charges in between PA and Ohio. Fortunately 3 more stations are said to be under way in between those to spots. Has anyone heard of anybody attempting this trip yet? | 2014-01-14 14:21:52 | 11 | Here is the cooler map. http: www.teslawiki.net supercharger | 2014-01-14 16:29:52 | 9 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 23,838 |
Multi player games at superchargers | Since tesla seems focused on improving the supercharger experience it might be a big bonus if users were able to play beach buggy and any other multi-player games with other cars at superchargers (and wherever else teslas might be within range of each other) over ad-hoc wifi. Relatively simple if the wifi stack allows easy access to do ad hoc wifi. One car establishes as the server and the others queue up to be 1 or even 2 of the players. Could swap out ai players one by one for humans as people join up at the start of new games. If the server leaves another car takes over. Could even add in increased power up availability for people who have minimal idle time in their records or other courteous attributes. | 2019-08-04 22:20:54 | 33 | You had a decent idea until the social ranking. | 2019-08-04 22:29:55 | 11 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 13,178 |
Rear Seatbelt Recall | Just got this email from Tesla a few minutes ago: > Tesla has decided to proactively recall certain Model 3 vehicles manufactured between 2017–2022 to inspect the assembly of the second-row left-hand seat belt buckle and the center seat belt anchor to ensure components are fastened to specification. Our records indicate that your vehicle(s) VIN-REDACTED may be affected by this recall. > Servicing certain components of Model 3 vehicles requires disassembly of the second-row left-hand seat belt buckle and center seat belt anchor both of which are fastened with the same bolt. One or both components may have been incorrectly reassembled during service. We are not aware of any crashes or injuries relating to this condition. > No immediate action is required if you own a Model 3 vehicle affected by this recall. Although you may schedule an appointment to have this recall performed Tesla will reach out with details to coordinate local pop-up service events to specifically address this recall for customer convenience. If you have an existing service appointment for any other concern Tesla will service the necessary components during your visit. > Thank you for being a Tesla customer and we apologize for this inconvenience. > TESLA INC. Anyone else get this? Any idea how widespread the recall is? It says certain Model 3 vehicles manufactured between 2017–2022 which is a long period... But hopefully it s a relatively small percentage of said vehicles. I have a June 2018-built Long Range RWD Model 3. | 2022-10-27 08:07:35 | 17 | This should be for any Model 3 that have had any repair involving access to the penthouse (battery electronics bay under rear seat). It shouldn t be particularly common and the issue is quick and easy to check (literally less than a minute or two). Have you had any sort of HV related service performed? | 2022-10-27 11:45:36 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,173 |
Updated Model S X Manuals - Dated Oct 29 2018 | Tesla updated the Model S X owner s manuals on Nov 15 2018. The old version (for S X) was dated Aug 10 2018. This new version (for S X) is dated Oct 29 2018. & #x200B Model S: [Direct Link](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_s_owners_manual_north_america_en_us.pdf) and [Comparison](https: draftable.com compare qVRkuDhWsYoo). Model X: [Direct Link](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_x_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) and [Comparison](https: draftable.com compare cWHINadcuhOc). Notable changes for Model S (will be similar to Model X): 1. New UI 1. Changed from v8 to v9. 2. Valet Mode 1. Added:: If the PIN to Drive setting is enabled you must enter the driving PIN before you can define or enter a Valet PIN. Once in Valet mode Model S can be driven without the valet needing to enter the driving PIN. 2. Added: The PIN to Drive setting is not available when Valet mode is active. 3. Park 1. Previously: Model S shifts into part under 2 conditions: a) When you are exiting vehicle b) Charging cable is connected. 2. Now: Model S shifts when you connect a charge cable or if 2 conditions are met: a) driver s seat belt is unbuckled b) the occupancy sensor in the driver s seat does not detect an occupant c) driver s door is opened. 4. Controlling lights 1. Previously: Some vehicles are not equipped with fog lights. 2. Now: Some vehicles are not equipped with fog and cornering lights ambient lighting and door handle lights. 5. Controlling lights 1. Added: If you turn on headlights after exit the exterior lights remain on for a short period of time after you stop driving and park Model S in low light conditions. 6. Turn Signals 1. Previously: To indicate a lane change press the lever up or down against the spring pressure then release. The corresponding turn signal flashes 3 times. 2. Now: The turn signals flash 3 times or continuously depending on how far up or down you move the lever. Lightly push the turn signal lever up or down for a 3-flash sequence. For a continuous signal push the lever fully up or down. 7. Instrument panel - Driving 1. Added: Although the instrument panel shows surrounding traffic some vehicles may not be displayed. Never rely on the instrument panel to determine if a vehicle is present (for example in your blind spot). Always use your mirrors and perform shoulder checks. 8. Parking brake 1. Added: Your Model S may display an alert if the road is too steep to safely park on or if the parking brakes have not properly engaged. These alerts are for guidance purposes only and are not a substitute for the driver s judgment of safe parking conditions including specific road or weather conditions. Do not depend on these alerts to determine whether or not it is safe to park at any location. You are always responsible for parking safely. 9. New section: Dashcam 1. Too many items to list see manual page 78 2. One hour of footage requires 1.8GB of USB space. 10. Operating Autosteer 1. Previous: To initiate Autosteer when there is no vehicle in front of you you must be driving at least 18 mph (30 km h) on a roadway with visible lane markings. If a vehicle is detected ahead of you you can initiate Autosteer at any speed even when stationary (if you are at least 5 feet (150 cm) away from the vehicle). 2. Now: ... you can initiate Autosteer at any speed under 90 mph (150 km h) even when stationary .... 11. Hold Steering Wheel 1. Added: Engaging a turn signal using the cruise control lever to adjust the cruise speed or follow distance or using any steering wheel button or scroll wheel also qualifies for your hands being detected by Autosteer. You re welcome! \[Edit: Had to split the post into 2 parts because Reddit is having formatting issues\] | 2018-11-17 06:32:23 | 30 | Continued... 1. New section: Navigate on Autopilot 1. Too many items to list see manual page 91. 2. Renamed Pedal Misapplication Mitigation to Obstacle-Aware Acceleration 3. Automatic Emergency Braking 1. Previous: If driving 29 mph (46 km h) or faster the brakes are released after Automatic Emergency Braking has reduced your driving speed by 25 mph (40 km h). For example if Automatic Emergency Braking applies braking when driving 56 mph (90 km h) it releases the brakes when your speed has been reduced to 31 mph (50 km h). 2. Now: If driving 35 mph (56 km h) or faster the brakes are released after Automatic Emergency Braking has reduced your driving speed by 30 mph (50 km h). For example if Automatic Emergency Braking applies braking when driving 56 mph (90 km h) it releases the brakes when your speed has been reduced to 26 mph (40 km h). 4. Obstacle-Aware Acceleration. 1. Added: Obstacle-Aware Acceleration may not limit torque when performing a sharp turn such as into a parking space. 5. Map and Navigation 1. Added: As updated maps become available they are automatically sent to Model S over Wi-Fi. To ensure you receive them periodically connect Model S to a Wi-Fi network (see Connecting to Wi-Fi on page 138). The touchscreen displays a message informing you when new maps are installed. 6. About security system 1. On Nov 13 2018 Tesla launches new ‘[Enhanced Anti-theft](https: electrek.co 2018 11 13 tesla-enhanced-anti-theft ) sensor as aftermarket product for S X. 2. Costs [$350 USD](https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-s-enhanced-anti-theft.html). 3. Added: If your Model S is equipped with the Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade the horn sounds in situations where a locked door or trunk is opened and Model S does not detect a key nearby. If the Tilt Intrusion setting is on the horn sounds if Model S detects motion inside the cabin or if the vehicle is moved or tilted (for example with a tow truck or jack). To turn the Tilt Intrusion detection system on or off touch Controls > Safety & Security > Tilt Intrusion. 7. New section: PIN to Drive 1. Added: To increase security you can prevent Model S from being driven until a 4-digit PIN (Personal Identification Number) is entered. To enable this setting touch Controls > Safety & Security > PIN to Drive and follow the onscreen prompts to create a driving PIN. Note: When enabled in addition to having to enter the 4-digit driving PIN to drive you must also use it to enter Valet mode for the first time and create the 4-digit valet PIN that you can use to enter and exit Valet mode. When in Valet mode Model S can be driven without the need for the valet to enter a driving PIN. In addition the PIN to Drive setting is disabled whenever Valet mode is active. If you forget your driving PIN or to disable PIN to Drive return to this setting touch the link to enter your Tesla login credentials then follow the on-screen prompts. 8. Mobile App 1. Added: Start software updates from afar 2. Added: Access your Tesla Inbox and Lootbox. 9. Mobile App 1. Previous: Your phone needs internet connectivity in order for the mobile app to communicate with your vehicle. 2. Now: Your phone must be connected to cellular service to allow the mobile app to communicate with your vehicle. 10. Supercharger Usage Fees and Idle Fees 1. Added: Estimated pricing is displayed for your convenience only and may not reflect the actual final price you will be charged for that supercharging session. Final pricing for supercharging sessions can be found in your Tesla Account. 11. Easter Eggs 1. Added: Atari games | 2018-11-17 06:44:11 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,829 |
How does buying TSLA stock help Tesla Motors? | At the IPO Tesla Motors sold X number of shares for Y price per share. Tesla Motors received a lump of cash and used it to grow the company. Now when I buy a share of TSLA someone or some entity (generally not Tesla) is selling it to me at a profit or a loss. How does my purchase impact Tesla? Thanks in advance for whatever I m about to learn. Edit: TIL that buying TSLA benefits Tesla Motors (I guess this applies to any stock company) indirectly by increasing demand for the stock which raises the stock price which allows Tesla to raise more money in subsequent stock offerings while selling fewer shares. Selling fewer additional shares is good because Tesla gets the money they need while giving away less equity (a smaller chunk of ownership control of the company). At this particular moment in time since the stock price is already so healthy it is probably more cost effective (benefit to Tesla per my dollar spent) to have another customer on the Model S Model X waiting list or on a smaller scale to sell some merchandise for the free advertising and increased word of mouth. I ve got the merchandise and the mouth and I ll be on the Model 3 waiting list in March 2016 along with seemingly everyone else. | 2015-11-08 17:38:08 | 20 | Only that your purchase would add pressure to make its stock price higher and when Tesla issue new rounds of equity financing they would be at an advantage if the stock price is higher. | 2015-11-08 17:48:48 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,234 |
Looking for a 75 or 75D | I m looking to buy a 75 or 75D for my wife in the next few days. What are the major differences and what should i be looking for. I know the 75 is RWD and the 75D is AWD. Asides from that I know 2017 and higher come with more cameras but other than that I m in the dark. Would like to know what you guys think. Any help would be great. Thanks! | 2019-12-20 16:23:25 | 20 | S or X? Edit: Also what is your budget and other requirements (seating driving habits etc.)? Edit 2: Oh yeah only D on the X. | 2019-12-20 16:26:47 | 9 | Tesla Model Comparison | 11,022 |
No More Phantom Breaking | In the last month we ve taken quite a few trips. Mostly from LA to Vegas twice. Not one phantom breaking issue. We have a 2021 Model 3 and a Y. Something is going on and we love it! | 2022-09-10 18:46:01 | 348 | That s great to hear! Now if they d only fix the phantom braking problem. | 2022-09-10 19:22:23 | 419 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 14,051 |
Model 3 - Fan Only vs Heat setting | I have been driving the Model 3 for about a week now and still can t figure out the heat setting. In the climate control section I see there is an Air Conditioning button but there s no Heat button. Obviously I can control the temp and I can feel the warm air as I nudge the temp up. I am curious if the heat is free - excess heat from motor and battery in the Fan Only mode or does it use the cabin heater? Of course AUTO will run the cabin heater when necessary and there are the seat heaters. But the question here is just focusing on the fan only operation. | 2018-03-27 16:19:53 | 16 | The temperature control on each side of the fan will change the AC button to a heat button. Turn the temp up or down to get different controls. | 2018-03-27 17:02:10 | 43 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 11,563 |
Model 3 - Apparent Battery Degradation and Response from Tesla | I ve had my Model 3 Mid-Range for almost 2 years now and about 3 months ago I noticed a pretty big drop in estimated range that seems to be continuing to trending down at a high rate. * Mileage - 15 000 * Wheels - 19 OEM * 95% home charging on 110 outlet * Average wh mi - 236 * Typical estimated range was 252+ mi but now down to 232 mi. I leave the battery display on percentage but occasionally switch it to miles to check how things are looking with estimated range. About 3 months ago I checked and noticed the estimated range had fallen to 237 miles (264 is EPA estimate so down about 10%). I spoke with one of the local service techs who pulled the battery stats remotely and said that my battery was in great shape and nothing to worry about. He gave the typical explanation that estimated range can vary based on a number of factors bla bla bla. I asked him if he could tell me what the degradation was but he said it is against their policy. So they CAN actually measure it but will not disclose. Understandable I guess. They don t want to be flooded with requests and deal with all the questions. Then again their policy is 70% capacity before they will replace the battery so the tech might just be telling me that I m less than that (obviously) so there s nothing they can do on their end. Who knows. Since then my estimated range has continued to drop now down to 232 (12% drop from EPA range). I ve tried to recalibrate it through the usual methods but they ve made no impact. 1. Is this normal? Is anyone else seeing similar trends? Especially interested in others with MR battery. 2. Are the 19 wheels factoring into the equation with estimated range? Does it consider that and if so what impact would it have? Would greatly appreciate meaningful input others can provide. If what I m seeing is truly reflective of the degradation I m really disappointed in how quickly it has occurred. Thanks! | 2020-09-24 17:19:17 | 10 | **THE PROBLEM** The displayed range on the screen may not be what you expect and it may not have much bearing on the actual driving range of your vehicle. It also might not be consistent with what you ve seen in the past or what Tesla advertised. **THREE DIFFERENT RANGE MEASUREMENTS** There are three different ways Tesla vehicles report range: - **Regulatory (EPA NEDC) Range**: The regulatory range is based on government testing in a test cell not real life. A car s regulatory mileage numbers are only exactly accurate under very specific test conditions. This calculated figure probably doesn t reflect how you actually use the vehicle. Your Tesla may not get the regulatory range for all the same reasons that gasoline-powered cars do not exactly get their regulatory fuel economy. *This is the number Tesla (and other EV manufacturers) report on their website because the law requires them to.* - **Rated (Displayed) Range**: The Rated Range is a range number based on a factory-set baseline watt hours per mile or km (wh mi) and a measurement of the average battery module voltage. This is the number you see on the screen or in the app if you have your range display set to distance. It s Tesla s estimate of how far your car can go under what *they* consider to be average conditions. The *actual* wh mi that you experience will vary based on battery temperature variations in voltage between battery modules and cells cruising speed driving style wind wheel size tire pressure use of climate control and use of sentry mode. Because of all those variables this rated range number may not reflect your actual driving experience. - **Actual (Energy App Estimated) Range**: This is the range displayed on the energy app in the car. It s based on *your actual use* in wh mi over the last 30 miles if you have it set that way. This is the most accurate estimate because it factors in your specific driving variables and other factors like the weather you have been driving in. It is updated as you drive and *this is the figure the navigation system uses to recommend charging stops.* These three numbers *will not match* even on a brand new vehicle and this is not an indication that there is something wrong. **RANGE ANXIETY AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT** Imagine if your cell phone had a countdown timer showing the number of seconds until the phone dies. People would worry endlessly about why one day it started with a different number of seconds and what that could mean for the health of the phone. It would make people worry unnecessarily about something that isn t really a problem. Instead your phone has a simple precentage indicator. It s simple and it gives you enough information without making you paranoid. Tesla thought of this too. I recommend you set your vehicle to display energy as a percentage. For the following reasons: - You wouldn t drive any vehicle down to the last 1% fuel remaining so tracking each mile missing or gained becomes overanalysis. - If you re using the Rated Range as a kind of battery health indicator it doesn t give enough information for that and is too prone to error anyway. If there is a real problem with the battery pack you d get an error message from the BMS. - Most experienced Tesla owners set the display to percentage and if they need to check the miles remaining they use the Energy app in the car. This is the most accurate tool we have because it actually accounts for your real-world driving habits. For day-to-day local commuting just plug it in at home every night and charge to 80 or 90%. If you can t do that use a public charger or supercharger when the battery gets at or below 20%. For trips that may consume 50% or more of your battery use the nav system *even if you know how to get there.* It will monitor your energy consumption and let you know if and where you need to charge or if you ll need to slow down to conserve power. If you do this even if your cars Rated Range varies as the BMS takes new measurements the results will remain the same over time. The navigation system will warn you very insistently if you are leaving the range of a known charger. It is extremely difficult to accidentally strand yourself with a dead battery in a Tesla vehicle. You may hear tales of people arriving with a very *low* battery but there are few stories of people *actually getting stranded* unless a supercharger is offline. The software and battery management system are *very* vigilant. **IS IT BATTERY DEGRADATION?** You might think that your vehicle s battery is degrading much faster than expected and you might be worried about that. Batteries do degrade over time. You can expect to lose around 5% of your total capacity in the first 2 years of ownership and another five percent over the following 5 - 8 years. Some batteries lose it quicker than others but few lose more than 10% over the course of their lifespan. Storing the vehicle at a very high (> 90%) or very low (< 10%) state of charge for long periods of time (> 24 hours) can exacerbate the losses but even that is not very significant over the long term. You should not hesitate to charge to 100% when you will actually need it. If you re fixated on the Rated Range display you might think you have much higher or lower degradation than expected but there is a very high likelihood that your *actual driving range* will follow the expected degradation curve. According to Tesla the vehicle is within specifications if it has lost less than 30% of its Rated Range. **OTHER THINGS YOU CAN TRY** *Calibrating Your Battery Battery Management System:* You can allow the Battery Management System (BMS) to recalibrate itself and re-estimate your Displayed Range. It can only take measurements when the car is fully asleep with the high-voltage contactor disabled. Things like Sentry Mode and third-party apps (like TeslaFi) can interfere with the car going into deep sleep. You should also give it many opportunities to sample the battery state at various states of charge. The steps are as follows: 1. Disable Sentry Mode and disconnect any third-party apps like TeslaFi that may prevent the car from going to sleep. The BMS only does range compuations after the vehicle has been asleep for at least 30 minutes. *Leave these features off until the process is complete!* 2. Charge to 95% and drive the car. Do not charge again until you get it below 20%. 3. Charge back to 95% and drive the car down to 20%. *It may take several cycles to notice any change in the Rated Range display.* 4. Re-enable Sentry Mode (if you like) and reconnect any third-party apps you disabled. Keep in mind: This process is only recalibrating the Rated Range display. It s for people to whom that number is very important. It s not actually increasing the distance the vehicle can drive and it does not change anything if you are displaying your range as a percentage. [Long Explanation Here](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads how-i-recovered-half-of-my-batterys-lost-capacity.204712 ?utm_content=iss291& utm_campaign=ed9& utm_source=threadloom& utm_medium=email#post-4946309) **HOW TO GET MAXIMUM RANGE WHILE DRIVING** 1. Before You Drive: Pre-heat or Pre-cool the vehicle but only when it s plugged in. The cabin should be at your desired temperature before you disconnect the charging cable. At a Supercharger you can set the vehicle to keep the climate control on while it charges. 2. Climate Control: Keep the windows closed and use climate control sparingly. In warm months set the climate control to LO and adjust the fan speed as required to keep you comfortable. This is more efficient than setting a specific temperature. Model S and X owners can enable climate control range mode which caps the maximum energy the climate control system is allowed to draw. In cold weather use seat and steering wheel heaters instead of the cabin heater as much as you can they use far less energy. 3. Vehicle Settings: Set acceleration to Chill and regenerative braking to Standard (if you have that setting.) Model S and X owners can set the adjustable suspension height to Low to further reduce drag. 4. Driving Style: Accelerate carefully use regenerative braking as often as you can and absolutely *drive no more than 65 mph (105 km h).* High speeds greatly increase drag an energy consumption. Use Autopilot as often as you can since it is often more efficient than a human driver. Following these guidelines will almost always enable you to get near or even better than the posted Regulatory Range. **IF THAT STILL DOESN T WORK FOR YOU ...** If after all this you think you have a problem with your battery pack then you should immediately contact Tesla in the interest of the safety and reliability f your vehicle. We redditors have a lot to say but we cannot fix your car. If you re trying to find out if anyone else has experienced an issue similar to yours try the Search function. Range is discussed *very* frequently. **TL DR**: Don t fixate on the Rated Range display it s often wrong. If you need to see a range number use the the Energy App. You ll be a much happier owner if you set the range display to percent and just drive until it s time to charge. Don t get too bogged down in the data the system doesn t give you enough information to make very useful conclusions. If you still think there s something wrong with your car you need Tesla not Reddit. More Info on Range is available [here from Tesla.](https: www.tesla.com support range) | 2020-09-24 19:04:37 | 53 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 11,556 |
The difference between Tesla in the public eye and other established manufacturers | What alot of people don t understand about Tesla is that they are more in the public eye than any other automotive company (apart from maybe VW and diesel gate) what sets Tesla apart is the media coverage (the likes of BBC CNN Fox etc etc) when only one of their cars goes wrong an example would be the fire truck 65mph or autopilot crashes and all battery cars can stay on fire for days after a crash etc etc I was casually reading through r all and saw this post on r Subaru : https: www.reddit.com comments 7y7yfw Reading the comments and the number of people with 2018 model cars having problems with ECU s and the like I guess what I want to say is that even though it seems like Tesla gets picked on alot for their problems don t assume that they are alone with their issues. Remember it happens to even established companies just not reported on. So when Joe Random talks to you about them and how terrible and problematic Tesla s are be safe in the knowledge that you know it s common for every automaker. | 2018-02-18 09:32:39 | 27 | > even though it seems like Tesla gets picked on alot for their problems don t assume that they are alone with their issues. Do people actually think that? Yes Tesla has problems yes everyone else does too. Lots of companies face big recalls every year and get plastered in the media because of it. FIAT is known to have shit reliability. BMWs are known to be terribly expensive to maintain etc. That doesn t mean we shouldn t talk about Tesla s problems though. > Remember it happens to even established companies just not reported on. It does get reported on just maybe not in the publications that you end up reading especially if you get most of your news from this sub. I will admit though that Tesla clickbait probably sells better than VW clickbait. | 2018-02-18 10:55:46 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,783 |
Regenerative braking OFF | Hi all! I just had to replace one of my rear tires on my LR RWD 3. Tire was replaced balanced and then all tires rotated. Now my regenerative braking is completely OFF. Car coasts. -Battery is at 167 miles -Manual has been read -have googled. -restart of touchscreen ( with fingers crossed) Trying to avoid calling roadside. Has anyone heard have experience of this? Update: thank you all for providing insight! The TPMS sensors have to be driven for 10-15 minutes above 15 mph to “recalibrate.” Although this may not have anything to do with regen i assume it began working after that time frame and sitting for a period of time while we were at dinner. (No refreshing on app to allow it to sleep) and everything was fine! As a side note as well used all-weather tire as I m in FL | 2018-11-03 23:11:25 | 25 | Power off via the service submenu | 2018-11-03 23:33:32 | 16 | Model Y Wheel Options | 16,353 |
US Sales 2018 Q1: Model 3 vs. BMW Audi Mercedes-Benz | The Model 3 has already surpassed the Audi A4 in sales. **U.S. Sales 2018 Q1** * Audi A4 (includes S4): **7 906** * BMW 3-series (sedan wagon GT M3): **13 651** * Mercedes-Benz C-Class (sedan coupe convertible AMG Cxx): **13 350** * Tesla Model 3: **8 180** Sources: * [Audi of America April Update](https: media.audiusa.com en-us releases 239) * [BMW USA sales report](http: f30.bimmerpost.com forums showthread.php?t=1482489) * [Mercedes-Benz USA March 2018 Sales Chart](https: media.mbusa.com releases mercedes-benz-usa-march-2018-sales-chart) * [InsideEVs estimated sales](https: insideevs.com march-2018-plug-in-electric-vehicle-sales-report-card ) | 2018-04-04 07:52:23 | 174 | Yes it will be interesting to see what happens if Tesla can scale Model 3 to 5K per week by June that is at least 20K per Month... which would have it top of this list... | 2018-04-04 08:07:03 | 65 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,636 |
Best dealership location? | Hi everyone. I m looking to make a trip to Cali next month to check out some Model S in person prior to ordering. I will be either going to LA or SF depending on which friend I decide to stay with. Is there one dealership that stands out above the others or has a lot more inventory than others? And also are sales reps capable of calling another dealer to see if a certain Model S is available and do the sale then and there? | 2017-04-24 14:37:58 | 5 | Tesla doesn t have dealerships. | 2017-04-24 15:02:31 | 11 | Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions | 11 |
Daily Q& A Discussion and Support Thread - July 28 | If you are new here (or even if you re not) please skim through our [Rules](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki rules) to get more familiarity on potential updates or changes and what to expect. Use this recurring thread for basic Q& A vehicle assistance today s topics sightings customization shop item discussions etc. **If you are a new owner and want to share your experiences look for our recurring Monday [New Delivery Owner](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search ?q=%22New+Delivery+and+Owners+Thread%22& include_over_18=on& restrict_sr=on& sort=new) threads.** **Have a curiosity or concern?** - [Displayed Rated Range](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments epy1uh daily_discussion_support_thread_january_17 fenj4n8) | [Tesla Support](https: www.tesla.com support) | [Winter Driving](https: www.tesla.com support winter-driving-tips) | [Software Updates + Megathreads](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) **Useful sites for vehicle management software tracking trip planning and more** - [Teslascope](https: teslascope.com software) | [TeslaFi](https: teslafi.com firmware ) | [EV-FW](http: ev-fw.com track-reports.php) | [Teslabout](https: teslabout.com firmware) | [Useful Sites Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) **Vehicle Manuals - U.S.** - [Model S](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_s_owners_manual_north_america_en_us.pdf) | [Model 3](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_3_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) | [Model X](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_x_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) | [Model Y](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_y_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) - **NEW - [Model 3 Video Manuals](https: www.youtube.com c TeslaManuals videos)** **Resources:** - [Rules](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki rules) - [Gigathread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments cdxuwh gigathread_of_resources ) - Recent Highlights and Links - [Popular Accessories](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki accessories) - r AutoDetailing - Cleaning detailing tips - [Discord Live Chat](https: discord.gg 7WuEqAW) - [Subreddit Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki index) - [Tesla Vehicle History Comparisons](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Rv464J1RsXNBNddy008IPsQfVrO4kHPh_L4HWKpG4bo edit#gid=0) - Print your own [Shareable Card](https: drive.google.com drive folders 1URFRBNFIcuhpKr_fgtPaYXVc83m7EHQs?usp=sharing) by u backstreetatnight and u 110110 **Please be kind** [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. If you want to share a photo you can easily create an image post on Imgur and include it in your comment. Find past discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). | 2020-07-28 09:10:36 | 14 | Road trip removes stars from our eyes. We do love our Y. It is an amazing car and it is wonderful to drive. We have had great experience with Tesla customer service. We are not haters. We are also able to say that the supercharging is not super. Operating at the limits of its wonderfulness in extreme heat topping at 114 degrees our Y required 4 charging stops between Los Angeles and Tucson. This was a trip with a normal drive time of 7 hours 13mins. it took us 12 hours due to the slow charging time. Each of the charging stations we stopped at were full. There are more Teslas on the road. If you are planning a road trip please be aware of very slow charging times at some locations. We hope that this current situation can be improved in the future. | 2020-07-28 15:12:26 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,760 |
About to finally purchase a tesla. Any reason to wait? | I ve been following Tesla for years now. Finally in a position to purchase however I currently live in an apartment complex that I d have to pay to install an outlet for charging not an issue but I ll be moving in 6-8 months. If there s not other reason to wait I am going to pull the trigger however it s been nearly 5 years since the model S has been out. Are there any rumblings about a face-lift in the next year or 2 that are worth waiting? Edit: Thank you everyone for the helpful advice! It looks like I will wait until Sept 29 then make the determination after that. | 2015-09-21 05:37:04 | 13 | Personally I would at least wait until the 29th of September when it will become clear what new tech the Model X will ship with. Chances are that the Model S might get some of these upgrades around the same time. Also not clear is the type of outlet you re talking about. While the Model S CAN be charged via a standard (but dedicated) 110V outlet you probably want a level 2 charging station if you put more than a few miles a day on that vehicle. Last but not least the Model S has only been around since 2012. | 2015-09-21 13:13:36 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,177 |
Lane assist lane departure avoidance not working | \*\*\* Updates will be at the bottom Hi guys Did not really see any threads calling this out. Just a handful youtube videos from about a year ago. We have a brand new Model 3 picked up June 2020. We have Lane Assist on and Lane Departure Avoidance turned on. There s actually 2 settings but both are on. Tried testing this out over the weekend and were quite astonished that it simply does not work. I was going over the double yellow lines dashed highway lines and solid white shoulder lines. Not once did I notice either a bump back to the center lane or any on screen notifications which I saw on the youtube videos (even there it was not frequent). I tried with hands on the wheel and hands off but as soon as I went over the lines I took over. Anyone else noticed this? Figure this has to be a software issue possibly. Mostly interested if anyone else can confirm it works and what software version are you on? Maybe there s a bug on my current version. We re on Version 2020.20.12 \*\*\*\* Updates \*\*\*\* update 1: So we got a software update overnight on version 2020.24.6.9 now. A different issue is that Connecticut DMV has been slow to get my real plates to me. Currently on temps which expired EOD yesterday. Tesla is providing a new temp plate registration for another month thankfully. Hope to test out the functionality later or tomorrow. Thanks to u jefferios for replying saying his experience was a bug that was fixed in a later version. Hoping to experience some better responsiveness in the next drive. | 2020-07-20 18:03:15 | 9 | This is very anecdotal but I have found lane departure very hard to “trick” into working. However it has performed as expect every time I accidentally crossed a lane line. It also only functions over a certain speed (30?). | 2020-07-20 18:07:21 | 15 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 10,693 |
Best way to rent a Tesla for a day? | My wife and I will be in Washington DC in April for vacation and would like to rent a Tesla to drive around for a day or two. However the only place I ve found is Turo which requires I be 30 to rent (I m 26). I also saw Enterprise Exotic Cars but that s pretty pricey. Any other options available? | 2017-08-23 00:12:29 | 23 | You can message the owner on Turo and they can have the age requirement waived for you. | 2017-08-23 00:28:10 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,863 |
Feature Request: Wiper Service Mode on App | Was reading over the cold weather tips for my Model 3 (again) and saw that it was recommended to leave your wipers in service mode to avoid them icing up. I believe that at least part of this is because the defrost doesn t heat up the normal resting place of the wipers (and so they re often frozen even worse as the melting from the defrost re-freezes). Service mode is hidden behind a few menu clicks and I often forget to do it on my way into work. Would be nice to do this from the app. Additionally it would be even better to let us park them up for a bit when we re driving as when it s very cold (I live in MN) the wipers will freeze up on any setting other than full on high heat defrost. Unfortunately this heats up the cabin enough to be uncomfortable (especially since we re usually wearing a jacket often gloves and a hat in this weather). Any one else have other suggestions to help with frozen wipers? | 2020-01-01 06:29:19 | 39 | Better yet just park the blades in service position when it is below freezing temperature. | 2020-01-01 08:13:35 | 17 | Tesla Model 3 Wiper Concerns | 6,471 |
What do you think is going to be the next feature of autopilot and when will it be released? | Time to put your wild guessing hats on as no one except employees know the answer. Do you think that FSD level 5 will happen by end of year or do you think that the car detecting a stop sign will come in 10? By new feature I mean a new user facing ability. Using 8 cameras to do the same thing it does today with 2 doesn t count. Driving smoother doesn t count. Also ap2 catching up to Ap 1 doesn t count. To make it fun if you get the feature right and the release date to the first public customers within one month of when when it happens either way (if multiple are correct the closest wins) I ll pm you a $50 amazon gift card. (Obviously only one submission per person counts and it has to be made in next couple of days). Here is my guess: ability to take exit ramps using turn signal Jan 1 2018. He mentioned doing this a while back but I think it got delayed for AP 2 compat with AP1. What do you think? | 2017-07-16 03:01:17 | 32 | How about just staying in the lane? I d settle for that. | 2017-07-16 04:29:28 | 28 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 22,612 |
I think I figured out how the next-gen Tesla Autopilot works. | Musk has said before that [his system would use cameras and software.](http: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2013-05-07 tesla-ceo-talking-with-google-about-autopilot-systems) > “The problem with Google s current approach is that the sensor system is too expensive ” Musk said. “It s better to have an optical system basically cameras with software that is able to figure out what s going on just by looking at things.” The expensive sensor he s talking about is scanning LIDAR which Google uses to obtain depth-of-field measurements. It s also well knows that the Model X will have extra autopilot hardware hidden features and that [mid-speed urban suburban areas are an acknowledged limitation of the current Autopilot hardware ](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=NaVnDsMOhq8#t=6m22s) exactly where the the Model X s family demographic drives most. All of the pieces in place for a Musk-scale unveiling. Once [decent pictures of an Autopilot mule](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 34tnkg saw_this_test_car_complete_with_kill_switch_at_my ) came out what no one seemed to notice was that [the test rig on the windshield had THREE cameras mounted in a triangle.](https: i.imgur.com tFdxcKJ.jpg) This is Musk s secret weapons against LIDAR. You see two camera (stereo) vision has problems resolving ambiguous repetitive or strikingly lit scenes. Have your eyes ever crossed looking at a chain-link fence? But multi-stereo has a cheap convex solution in the sum-of-sum-squared-differences algorithm (see [Okutomi and Kanade 1993](http: repository.cmu.edu cgi viewcontent.cgi?article=3012& context=compsci) and [subsequent work](https: scholar.google.com scholar?cites=17597635510512505182)) and [three cameras is the cheapest way to do it.](https: www.ri.cmu.edu pub_files pub4 ross_william_p_1993_1 ross_william_p_1993_1.pdf) The spacing of those cameras looks close to the human eye so at 1080p that should give a depth of field image 100 feet in front. This is probably for pedestrian and obstacle detection needed because obstacles can be oddly shaped. The arrangement of six cameras (each with 90 degree fov) means that the car has 360 degree vision on the diagonal cameras and stereo vision front and aft. If those cameras are separated by 1 meter the stereo image would resolve out to *4000 feet* and give a 5% accurate range at 200 feet. This would be for vehicle detection and stereo suffices because vehicles are easier to identify in image processing. As a side benefit [forward-looking trinocular vision lets the Model X navigate more accurately near black holes.](https: www.reddit.com r askscience comments 24rvo9 i_heard_having_2_eyes_give_us_depth_perception_so cha5bkp?context=1) Kessel Run in 12 parsecs anyone? :-D | 2015-06-27 02:25:04 | 69 | > Model X navigate more accurately near **black holes** Was just at r spacex. You see where this is going. | 2015-06-27 03:12:00 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,218 |
Model 3 Vampire Drain tracked | Hello! I just bought a P3D and thought it would be interesting to track the vampire drain. The car has 250 miles and is parked in a well insulated garage in San Francisco (average temperature about 65°). I was on a business trip for 12 days and the car was parked in my garage during that period. I did not check the app and only reported the charging status using the app notifications and later on using the data from my utility provider. The car was set to maintain a charge of 76% and start charging every day at 11pm. Usually the car was waiting to loose about 2% to start topping it up. On one occasion it did not and waited 71% to start topping it up again. On average I lost about 1% per day (3 miles?) and required a total of 111 minutes of charge to maintain battery level over 12 days. All together the Model 3 pulled 11.76KW from the grid (reported by my utility provider) which represents an average of 0.98KW per day. In California with my SuperGreen plan I pay about $0.14 per KW so that would be a cost of about $4.11 per month. & #x200B What do you think of those numbers? Data: [https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Y8yxbWqz2HriOh-ZrTBm3a7sZcDeKFKkz4fg5L41OYE edit#gid=0](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Y8yxbWqz2HriOh-ZrTBm3a7sZcDeKFKkz4fg5L41OYE edit#gid=0) & #x200B & #x200B | 2018-12-04 18:54:54 | 21 | I ve tracked my AWD Model 3 s vampire loss and sleep status via the API over several 24 hour periods. Best case scenario (asleep for 100% of the time) it used 5.4 km (1.1%) over 24 hours. For me this works out to 0.89 kWh or a constant draw of 37 W (about the same as leaving a laptop turned on). Worst case scenario (keeping the car awake 100% of the time by collecting stats) it used 31.7 km (6.4%) over 24 hours. This is works out to 5.16 kWh or a constant draw of 215 W. Waking the car to collect data tends to keep it awake for anywhere from 45 seconds (API call) to 10-11 minutes (opening the app to wake the car then closing it once the app s refreshed). | 2018-12-04 20:20:48 | 5 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 12,040 |
Booking a test drive | Hello! So I ve been a lurker for ages but have never actually posted I have a question maybe you guys could help me with when the 3 first started taking orders I put in my preorder then a day or two later I went online and I booked a test drive... Now that was 9 months ago and I have heard nothing I went into my local tesla store to ask and they said I could not re-request one and I would just have to keep waiting without having any idea of the status of where i may be in the queue I m living in Toronto Ontario if it matters. So is there anything I can do? or am I doomed to wait forever for a simple test drive? UPDATE: not sure what happened but 2 days after going in and not having any luck someone from Yorkdale Tesla called me and helped me set up a date and time told them I was a 3 reservation holder and they found a time that works for me under a month from now so not an awful wait! thanks for the help guys! Any ideas on what to do are appreciated. | 2017-01-07 20:47:26 | 12 | They re not currently doing test drives of the Model 3 yet. | 2017-01-07 21:01:32 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,989 |
Why is AWD Dual motors so popular with Model 3 reservations? | I do not plan on getting AWD but thats because I live in a place where it doesnt snow. With the backlash over Elon s statement that dual motor configs will be built later I looked into it a bit. According to Model3tracker.info about 70% of reservations would like dual motors AWD. This surprised me I expected closer to 25%. According to this: http: blog.caranddriver.com differential-distribution-where-rwd-awd-and-fwd-vehicles-are-sold-in-the-u-s-infographic about 35% of luxury compact car buyers go for AWD. Essentially what you gain from the Model S is modestly improved off the line acceleration a very small bump in range (4% or so) and of course additional traction when accelerating. But.. this costs $5000 and will probably cost close to that on the 3. To me that is a steep price to pay on a 40k vehicle for those gains even if some snow driving is needed especially if your snow driving will be on paved and plowed roads. | 2017-03-24 17:48:31 | 21 | Its the best $ investment option in the vehicle. It gives you powertrain redundancy improves performance handling and range in a single option. | 2017-03-24 18:03:56 | 34 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,501 |
M3 SR+ Popping sounds & bangs while driving and charging | During the holidays I did 500+ miles with my 2019 M3 SR+ and started hearing some bangs and pops - originating from underneath the car. This happens both while driving and charging - every now and then. Bangs are not concentrated to one spot - but both front back driver passenger. It s been around freezing this weekend here in PNW - not sure if that has anything to do with it. Anyone with similar experience? I have done some research and understand it could be due to temperature - but I find it odd happening while driving. | 2019-12-01 06:08:47 | 30 | Yip . as temp changes | 2019-12-01 06:10:08 | 38 | Tesla Noise Concerns | 11,207 |
Front license plate when ordering | I ve always asked car dealers to NOT put on a front license plate frame. Here in CA it s a fixit ticket which in 35 years have NEVER gotten cited for. My question is when you order a new Tesla is there an option where you can add comments like Please don t put on a front license plate frame ?? | 2021-02-01 18:55:57 | 12 | Mine in TX (where front and back plates are required) did not come with the front plate installed. Instead they put it in the trunk for you to install yourself with adhesive. Worked out well for us. | 2021-02-01 19:01:26 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,010 |
Mobile power station? Is there any value in using a Tesla as a Mobile 85kwhr power station? | A Model S 85kwhr can hold about $7-$16 worth of electricity depending on the your local electricity rates. I wonder if we will see an increased popularity in using Tesla as mobile battery banks. Some uses I see are tailgating camping disaster relief etc. What do you guys think? Can it be more than just a mode of transportation? | 2014-02-20 18:25:04 | 7 | Tesla truck with the bed full of batteries? That d be neat. Cheap mobile generator . | 2014-02-20 19:12:00 | 3 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 11,530 |
Opinions on vegan interior. Should Tesla force leather when ordering high-end options? | A lot of discussion in the [official shareholder meeting thread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 395csn official_thread_2015_tesla_annual_shareholder ) centered around the Proposal and how much time it took or the question of phasing out leather altogether. Currently the next generation seats executive rear seat power liftgate fog cornering lights interior accent lights alcantara headliner premium interior trim and lighted door handles are unavailable without ordering leather. | 2015-06-10 20:13:52 | 17 | I agree that it should be an option to use faux leather trim options. From what I understand some high-end artificial leathers actually have better performance than natural leather. Although I can understand the desire to not use natural leather from a moral standpoint I do disagree with the environmental argument. Many artificial leathers have a worse environmental impact than the natural leather substitutes. See: (http: www.motherjones.com blue-marble 2011 01 fake-leather-really-more-eco-friendly-real) | 2015-06-10 21:05:04 | 26 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 14,437 |
What Specifically Triggers the Unlock with the Phone Key on the Model 3 | After a week my phone key has officially worked on only the first day and then not again since and I can t figure out where the point of failure is. I ve seen several threads here from owners with the same issue and usually the solution has been to cycle bluetooth on and off but that still doesn t explain my experience below and I haven t been able to find any explanation of what exactly is the cause or point of failure. I have a Google Pixel 2 XL updated to Android 8.1 I can be standing directly next to the car the phone can be successfully connected via bluetooth to the car I can have the Tesla app open and I can have my google maps up with my location pinpointed to the exact location of the car...and the car still won t unlock. Is there anything else that could be the specific trigger for the unlock because I feel like I ve tried every possible option: bluetooth connection app running and an accurate gps location. Is there something I m missing? UPDATE: Reinstalled app resynced it to the car it worked once on my way to the grocery store but when I left the store I walked up to my car and nothing happened. I sat there just standing next to my car trying the door handles over and over looking silly or criminal to the passersby but it wouldn t unlock. Turned off and on my bluetooth and it finally unlocked. Popped the trunk and put my 1 bag of groceries in and by the time I got back to the driver side door it had already locked again and wouldn t unlock...again. I gave up and used the key card. | 2018-02-12 22:26:36 | 15 | I feel like in many of these threads one commonality is the use of a Google phone. I m not saying to get rid of your phone but do you possibly have access to another phone for a bit to try it? | 2018-02-13 01:27:34 | 10 | Model 3 phone key issues | 22,443 |
I just drove a Tesla for the first time. | And now everything is different. I am broken when it comes to non electric cars and am looking at what the options are for purchasing. I think an entry level 3 would work out for me financially but I can t help but be enamored by the low cost of used Model S s. What is the consensus on how these cars last? How many miles? How many years? How much does it cost to replace a battery does that every come up? Sorry for the noob questions but like I said everything is different now. | 2019-07-07 14:55:53 | 108 | They last. You won t be replacing a battery. The cars get better every day so pick a few features you want find cars that have them and then select your price. Also drive both an S and a 3. Very different cars. | 2019-07-07 15:01:46 | 56 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,927 |
Model S Rental | I would like to rent a Model S to drive from SC to FL for the June 19th SpaceX CRS-7 launch (4 days leave Thursday and return Sunday). I m familiar with Relay Rides but there is no Tesla in the area. Any recommendations? | 2015-04-30 15:06:40 | 12 | Planning a trip around a rocket launch is a bad idea. They re delayed more often than not. | 2015-04-30 17:12:32 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,592 |
Strange issue regarding ultrasonics on AP1 85D caused by the sun? | So recently the front-sides ultrasonic sensors have begun flickering red as I drive as if a car is right next to me even though it isn t. This causes autopilot to go nuts and jut to the opposite lane side as it s happening. When I called the service center they mentioned it could have something to do with the angle of the SUN. (???). I feel like that s impossible but I have noticed this seems to happen most often if not always when the sun is lower in the sky and to the sides of the car. It also seems to happen more on white concrete than asphalt roads but that could be a red herring. Can anyone with knowledge of how ultrasonic sensors work comment here? I m about ready to lose my mind. | 2018-07-11 22:07:11 | 5 | Ultrasonics use sound and bounce it off objects... so as to the position of the Sun Mars or the moons of Saturn they have nothing to do with it. | 2018-07-11 22:15:24 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,824 |
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Bethesda Maryland supercharger? | Just curious what happened to the references to the Bethesda supercharger? I was there this weekend for a movie charged my car fine and left but later noticed that there was no longer a reference to it on the supercharger map. Any idea? Thanks Frank | 2016-11-22 20:08:24 | 9 | Was not aware of a Bethesda Supercharger... do you mean the charger at Montgomery Mall? Is it a Supercharger though? It s not listed as a Supercharger on supercharge.info. | 2016-11-22 20:16:05 | 2 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 2,875 |
Model 3 frunk liner to increase space | I was thinking the other day about the empty space left with the missing front motor in the model 3 RWD and it would be nice to have a 3rd party come up with a liner that will enable us to access that space. It would be nice to be able to fit a normal size stroller in there along with groceries. Hopefully there aren t anything blocking the area so if someone can chime in it will be great. Possible? Or is it blocked somehow? Word count sucks I posted this 5 days ago. Going to put a bunch of words here to satisfy the word count going to put some words here to satisfy the word count Going to put a bunch of words here to satisfy the word count going to put some words here to satisfy the word count | 2018-12-25 01:23:39 | 6 | Its mostly blocked by the AC compressor coolant resorvoir with its pumps and the power steering. | 2018-12-25 01:30:15 | 5 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 12,178 |
I made a list of everything we know about the Model 3 so far | ***So here is the list I ve come up with so far. If I missed something please leave a comment and I ll add it to the list. I tried to keep the list as free from speculation as possible but of course everything is subject to change before the final release in 2017.*** **Update: I m now adding sources and information I missed.** **Base Specifications Features** * 215 miles [346km] (or more) of range. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * 215 of range accomplished with < 60kWh battery due to 30% denser energy storage. ^[Source](http: www.streetinsider.com Analyst+Comments UBS+Sees+Telsas+%28TSLA%29+Model+3+As+Unprofitable 11540932.html?si_client=st) ^[Source](https: electrek.co 2016 04 26 tesla-model-3-battery-pack-cost-kwh ) * ~0.21 Cd (drag coefficient). ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 716751152906440705) * Guesstimated wheelbase: 113.0 in. [287cm] ^[Source](http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-photos-analysis ) * Guesstimated L x W x H: 184.1 x 74.2 x 56.5 in. [467.6 x 188.5 x 143.5 cm] ^[Source](http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-photos-analysis ) * Guesstimated curb weight: 4 200-4 350 lbs. [1 905-1 973 kg] ^[Source](http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-photos-analysis ) * RWD. ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 716745282394976257) * 0-60 mph in < 6 seconds [0-100km h in < 6.2 seconds] for RWD base version. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * Supercharger compatible. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * 15” touchscreen (landscape orientation) and software suite similar to model S & X. ^[Source](https: youtu.be Qr2FaDh-Hlg?t=131) ^[Source](https: youtu.be Qr2FaDh-Hlg?t=263) ^[Source](https: youtu.be Qr2FaDh-Hlg?t=342) * Single slot for HVAC on dash. ^[Source](https: electrek.co 2016 12 08 tesla-model-3-new-picture-interior ) * Steering wheel with spaceship-like feel. ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 716729420078133248?lang=en) * Designed to achieve 5-Star Safety Rating in all categories. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) ^[Source](https: youtu.be Q4VGQPk2Dl8?t=596) * Seating for 5 adults. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * 4 doors. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * Large non-hatch style trunk door. ^[Source](https: youtu.be Qr2FaDh-Hlg?t=399) * Frunk. ^[Source](https: youtu.be Qr2FaDh-Hlg?t=417) * Steel chassis with some aluminum construction. ^[Source](http: www.streetinsider.com Analyst+Comments UBS+Sees+Telsas+%28TSLA%29+Model+3+As+Unprofitable 11540932.html?si_client=st) ^[Source](http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-photos-analysis ) * Steel roof. ^[Source](https: youtu.be Qr2FaDh-Hlg?t=195) (Note: It is possible this may be an option and the glass roof is standard). * Autopilot 2.X hardware capable of level 5 autonomy. Hardware includes 8 cameras of which 3 are front-facing 12 ultrasonic sensors forward-facing radar and powerful supercomputer. 360° visibility with 250m of range. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * Safety features of Autopilot 2.X hardware will come standard. ^[Source](https: youtu.be Qr2FaDh-Hlg?t=313) * 400kWh (roughly 1000 miles 1609km) yearly credit for supercharger use. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com blog update-our-supercharging-program) * Rear seats fold flat. ^[Source](https: www.bloomberg.com features 2016-tesla-camper-mode ) * ~5 6” (167cm) of space from the back of the front seats to the end of the trunk ^[Source](https: www.bloomberg.com features 2016-tesla-camper-mode ) and you can fit a 7ft surfboard in the vehicle. ^[Source](https: youtu.be Q4VGQPk2Dl8?t=764) * Hankook Tires (standard). ^[Source](http: www.koreatimes.co.kr www news biz 2016 12 388_204557.html) * Rear driver s side charging receptacle. ^[Source](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=umSgvubQZ5c& feature=youtu.be& t=11m54s) * Access to the not yet officially announced “Tesla Network”. ^[Source](http: www.reuters.com article us-tesla-rideservices-idUSKCN12K2IA) * Originally was supposed to be called Model E but Ford killed SEX and took the name first. ^[Source](http: www.forbes.com sites hannahelliott 2014 07 21 teslas-model-3-will-be-best-selling-car-in-its-class-despite-musks-failure-to-work-sex-into-the-name #6564fb347928) **Options** * ~~300+ mile [483km+] range battery. ^[Source](https: electrek.co 2016 03 30 tesla-model-3-specs )~~ Edit: Second-hand source not yet confirmed. * AWD. ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 716745282394976257) * ~~0-60 mph in < 4 seconds [0-100km h in < 4.14 seconds] for dual motor performance version. ^[Source](https: electrek.co 2016 03 30 tesla-model-3-specs )~~ Edit: Second-hand source not yet confirmed. * Performance model. ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 726210827699806208) * Ludicrous mode. ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 726210827699806208) * All glass roof - panoramic OR fixed glass. ^[Source](https: youtu.be Qr2FaDh-Hlg?t=195) (Note: It is possible this may be standard and the steel roof will be an option). Glass will have UV and IR protection. ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 794965733151117313) * Solar roof. ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 794575003446480896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 794579089168310272) * Tow hitch. ^[Source](https: mobile.twitter.com elonmusk status 716708661024804866) * At least 3 different wheel designs to choose from. ^[Source](https: youtu.be Qr2FaDh-Hlg?t=546) * Front 235 35ZR20 and rear 275 30ZR20 Michelin Pilot Super Sport tire option likely other tire options available as well. ^[Source](http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-photos-analysis ) **Release Information** * Production begins mid 2017. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * Deliveries starting sometime in the second half of 2017. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * First deliveries will be made on the west coast and move east incrementally. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com blog reserving-model-3) * Tesla and SpaceX employees will be given priority. Current Tesla owners are also given priority in each region (although Tesla has said only 7% of Model 3 reservation holders are current owners. ^[Source](https: youtu.be 0HM7LceSG8Y?t=2949) ). ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com blog reserving-model-3) * Initially deliveries of highly option versions will be prioritized. ^[Source](https: youtu.be QJkYSWZ3d1Y?t=2904) * First 12 months of production are “sold out”. ^[Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 788493472286121984) ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * Elon has said Tesla aims to produce 100 000 to 200 000 units in H2 of 2017. ^[Source](https: youtu.be 0HM7LceSG8Y?t=726) * Elon has said the Model 3 won t be late like the Model X. ^[Source](https: youtu.be 0HM7LceSG8Y?t=826) * Enough parts have been ordered for a fleet of 300 prototypes. ^[Source](https: electrek.co 2016 08 01 tesla-model-3-parts-fleet-300-prototypes ) **Cost** * Base: $35 000 ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) * Options such as AWD will be some proportion less than that of the Model S X. ^[Source](https: mobile.twitter.com elonmusk status 716747844175142912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) * $7 500 tax credit available but will begin phase-out after 200 000 rebates claimed. After reaching that threshold the tax credit will be reduced by 50% for the second calendar quarter of the quarter in which the 200 000th vehicle is made. During the third and fourth calendar quarter after threshold has been met the tax credit is reduced by an additional 50%. After that the credit will no longer be available. ^[Source](https: www.irs.gov businesses plug-in-electric-vehicle-credit-irc-30-and-irc-30d) * $1000 refundable reservation deposit. ^[Source](https: www.tesla.com model3) | 2016-12-23 18:59:17 | 185 | Originally supposed to be the Model E but ford killed sex | 2016-12-23 19:38:23 | 39 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,108 |
Are the 0-60 times for the model 3 based on the 18 or 19 inch wheels. | We ve heard that the aero wheels assist with adding range. What is known about the wheel size and what it means for acceleration? | 2017-10-16 19:26:26 | 13 | does it really matter in real world driving? you probably wont notice a difference.. | 2017-10-16 20:25:04 | 7 | Model Y Wheel Options | 2,190 |
[Discussion] How should I jack up my Model 3 if I want to do a wheel change? Which floor jack jack stands? | The Model 3 has really small jack points: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads jack-points.102793 I want to change my own tires and whatnot but due to the small jack points I don t know how best to do this. Obviously messing this up can puncture the battery liner so I don t want to make mistakes. For the actual floor jack to get it off the ground would something like this work? https: www.amazon.com Pro-Lift-F-767-Profile-Floor dp B00BG6IJA0 I would use a hockey puck on the contact point to better disperse weight. Most jack stands look something like this: https: www.amazon.com Torin-Big-Steel-Jack-Stands dp B00026Z3E0 ref=sr_1_2_sspa where they re supposed to go on the the pinch weld point under the car but the Model 3 doesn t have that. What kind should I be getting? You can get an adapter like this: https: www.ebay.com itm 142709055354 but with a cost of $50 x 4 $200 in adapters to lift the car up is a bit much. So what would you do if you had to go out and buy a floor jack and jack stands? Please don t say I would take it to my local mechanic because there s almost no Teslas in my small city and I d be equally afraid of a lazy mechanic not paying attention and puncturing the battery. I ve read horror stories. And dumb question but can I just jack up the very front back of the car where it s grey in the above diagram rather than having to use the jack points? | 2018-06-19 14:05:37 | 53 | https: i.imgur.com v5PiRTL.jpg I bought the Reverse Logic adapter and just do one corner at a time. | 2018-06-19 14:13:27 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,436 |
Will HW2.0 Teslas have a “second class” version of FSD because the cameras and radar are not as good as the HW2.5 Teslas? | I m hoping that someone with better technical knowledge can put this worry of mine to rest. Tesla has announced that both car versions (HW2.0 and HW2.5) will be provided with the same new FSD computer if owners purchased the Full Self-Driving option. However the cameras and radar were upgraded for HW 2.5 and some wiring harnesses were also changed. Does this mean that Teslas with HW2.0 will have an inferior grade of Full Self Driving with poorer vision and less redundancy - a “second class” version of FSD? Edit: I should point out that I have a HW2.0 Model S that is the most amazing car to drive that I have ever owned. But my driving abilities have declined with age and I m hoping to cheat aging by having the car drive itself! Hence my concern. | 2019-04-28 13:42:33 | 10 | https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1120483430515585024?s=21 | 2019-04-28 13:59:56 | 3 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 23,616 |
Ccs1 adapter for US | Any info on when we will actually see a Us version of the Ccs1 adapter ? I have asked this question millions of times on Twitter and never a response . Anyone else hoping we get one ? Would anyone be willing to sign a petition with me on change.org to make it happen ? I find it frustrating just to visit family every weekend I have to drive 25 miles in the opposite direction just to charge in order to drive back home. It s making me contemplate giving up on Tesla . | 2021-05-31 14:32:04 | 46 | The adapter is going through [Certification in South Korea](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments n4b0ig dc_combo_ccs1_tesla_proprietary_port_adapter_is ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) so it should be close to release over there. I looked around for matching model numbers on google and didn t find anything for the US. Regardless I d bet if Tesla doesn t release it here people will import them from South Korea. It s a shame Tesla doesn t just offer this adapter to us out of good will. I have a feeling they are only making this because they were somehow required to for Korea. | 2021-05-31 14:45:14 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,726 |
Tesla Model 3 sighted at Dutch type approval authority | A poster in [this Dutch car forum](http: www.autoweek.nl forum read.php?1 4771591 5730423#msg-5730423) says he saw a Tesla Model 3 at the Dutch EU type approval authority (RDW) in Lelystad when he went there to get his EV-converted DAF 33 approved last Monday. No pictures and according to the poster the car was quickly covered up but it jibes with [this previous Reddit posting less than a month ago about a Model 3 sighting at the Tesla assembly plant in Tilburg](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6jzhw2 tesla_model_3_in_tilburg_factory_unconfirmed ). | 2017-07-26 20:56:12 | 35 | Nice one u Dutchlawyer. Could you go into that forum and press that person on the details of the car e.g.: - Are the rear light side profile triangles pointing up or down - Are the headlights trailing up the bonnet etc. Just to make sure he hasn t accidentally seen an S. | 2017-07-26 21:14:21 | 10 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 19,156 |
Screw dropped into center console of model Y | Wondering if anyone has a way to fish out a screw I dropped between wireless charger tray and metal railing on drivers side while installing a jeda hub with 12 volt power supply. (https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments dyotbl how_to_guide_fast_wireless_phone_charging_in_a ?utm_medium=android_app& utm_source=share) | 2020-09-24 17:25:44 | 13 | Magnet? Maybe one of those telescoping magnetic pickup tools. I believe they sell them at auto parts stores. | 2020-09-24 17:31:09 | 9 | Tesla charging port locking | 16,838 |
I love this company what other car company would do this? | I placed an order for an inventory 90D last Tuesday marked down $18.5k. This weekend they repriced the models a bit thru the changes in the available options. This ended up making the deal I got on the car not all that great. But little did I know they had dropped the price of my car an additional $2000! I went from being bummed out to confused (when I saw the final price in the my tesla page) to ecstatic. What a company! Can t wait to pick up my new S on Wednesday! | 2017-07-23 23:53:27 | 155 | You and me both! Your post made me check MyTesla and surprise! Fully loaded 90D (everything but the rear facing seats and 21 wheels) for $92k out the door! My wife and I are shocked. I already agreed to buy the car they sure didn t have to do that! Hey guys go check out 90D s right now. Those that are left are sporting some huge discounts. | 2017-07-24 00:24:45 | 52 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,013 |
How do you recommend logging home EV charging usage cost? | How would you track home EV charging usage to generate a monthly cost ballpark? I ve got a non-tech friend who has a renter who wants to charger an EV at home. They re trying to find a seamless way to account for the electricity usage (in L.A.) to bill the renter for usage. Any ideas how to accomplish this? Links to simple power clamps cloud based data loggers or commercial products are ideal :) Bonus points for a creative smartphone software web cloud solution to toggle on off the power to the 220v outlet as it will be outside of the home near the street)! Edit: bonus point portion for clarity re: toggle | 2017-12-16 18:25:04 | 13 | Your friend could install a submeter on the charger. [EKM Metering](https: www.ekmmetering.com ) makes good solutions for this. The [Omnimeter](https: www.ekmmetering.com ekm-omnimeter-i-v-3-universal-smart-meter-single-phase-or-3-phase-120-to-480v-50-60hz-up-to-5000-amps.html) and [EKM Push](https: www.ekmmetering.com ekm-push-communication-system.html) gateway provide a cloud based solution for data monitoring. Data and software are free. Full disclosure: I work for EKM Metering. Let me know if you have any questions that I can help you with. Feel free to DM me as well. | 2017-12-16 18:40:44 | 6 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 8,189 |
Air Suspension not being listed on Tesla website? | I was looking through the website to see if pricing have changed and noticed that air suspension is no where to be found on Tesla for Model S & X at the moment. It s curious that its not even in the specs list where everything else are being listed advertised. Is there some changes coming? Are they no longer being offered? | 2019-03-18 16:13:50 | 6 | I could be wrong but I think it s standard on both. | 2019-03-18 16:25:41 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,367 |
Card Key for valet | Several reviews have stated the card key can be used to valet the car. As someone who valets often they use a keybox to organize & lock up a lot of keys as they run for the cars. They usually place your key on the hook number that correspond with your ticket number & those hooks are close together. A card key doesn t have an eyelet to hang the key for organization and is much larger than any other key. This could make valeting more difficult than with a normal shape sized key. Anyone else see this as short sighted given how valets operate? | 2017-07-30 03:19:16 | 10 | Valets will eventually be obsolete in Tesla s eyes. | 2017-07-30 03:24:15 | 35 | Model 3 phone key issues | 3,712 |
Does anyone know if Tesla s Supercharger map is outdated? | On their [website](http: www.teslamotors.com supercharger) they have a supercharger station map. It has a Today view and a projected view for Fall 2013 . Umm... it *is* Fall 2013. Soon to be Winter 2013. If those stations were to roll out on time they d already be out. Does anyone know what the status is? Running behind schedule? Map not updated? | 2013-12-01 14:04:53 | 10 | This map seems to keep up with the times a little more. It s fun to watch the progress. http: www.teslawiki.net supercharger | 2013-12-01 22:24:00 | 10 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 5,450 |
Stephen Gandel - the reporter at Fortune Magazine sparring with u FredTesla and Elon on twitter is holding an AMA right now | https: np.reddit.com r IAmA comments 4rqa6q hey_i_am_stephen_gandel_a_senior_editor_at Edit: He bailed after people started asking actual questions concerning his sourcing and reporting. Sorry guys. | 2016-07-07 20:15:29 | 17 | He bailed on all the hard questions lol. Guess he got enough clicks for the day on his story | 2016-07-07 22:42:10 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,772 |
Proposed Future Updates Tracker | I noticed there was no thread keeping a running list of all future proposed features that elon has promised oked on twitter so i decided i d make one. & #x200B if anyone has others please add them in comments preferably with a link and i can keep updating this list. & #x200B From what i ve browsed so far we know the following & #x200B Version 9.0 * redesigned browser (confirmed) * updated Nav display (confirmed) * Energy graph on model 3 (confirmed) * Updated Media Display (confirmed) * Autopilot on Nav (Delayed to future release) * Fade Mode - [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1037901130578067456?s=21](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1037901130578067456?s=21) (Confirmed?) version 10 * Fully autonomous cross country trip - [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1041829367037407232](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1041829367037407232) * netflix and youtube on browser - [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1031258020548771840?s=21](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1031258020548771840?s=21) * More Atari Games * Karaoke Mode - [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1032977253297057792](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1032977253297057792) * sound system will adjust to wind and road noise. - [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 958044440085409792](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 958044440085409792) Unspecified future release: * all Cameras will turn on and record if car is damaged while parked - [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1048679020512960512?s=21](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1048679020512960512?s=21) * party and camper mode - [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1024362530691371008?s=21](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1024362530691371008?s=21) * tesla ranger remote service deployment - [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 998082149356994560?s=21](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 998082149356994560?s=21) * tesla dashcam data downloadable to app - [https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1048692170377506817](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1048692170377506817) & #x200B & #x200B I m thinking we can keep this running list so people know what s coming down the line to help with decisions on weather and when to buy. & #x200B | 2018-10-10 03:55:30 | 43 | > > > I m thinking we can keep this running list so people know what s coming down the line to help with decisions on weather and when to buy. Anyone who makes decisions based on Elon s twitter claims is bound to be disappointed | 2018-10-10 04:09:54 | 14 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 15,638 |
A question about the autonomous mode | The girlfriend and I where having a discussion about Tesla car s autonomous mode. I get that the car has a ton of sensors and use all that to maintain safe speed and spacing. But would it ever come to a point where it has to choose. Say your going down the road and at the same time a cyclist and a car dart out. Can it decide to hit a vehicle over a person? Or is it all the same in the computers eyes? | 2016-05-26 05:02:20 | 5 | It can t tell. It simply maintains distance at best so if it detected at all it d slow down. You raise a good question that s being debated however: https: www.technologyreview.com s 542626 why-self-driving-cars-must-be-programmed-to-kill | 2016-05-26 05:16:13 | 9 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 1,000 |
Hedonic Adaptation and the Tesla Model | [Hedonic adaptation](https: www.sciencedirect.com topics psychology hedonic-adaptation) refers to the human tendency to cease noticing particular stimuli over time so that the stimuli no longer have the emotional effects they once had. We lose interest in possessions after a period time. My FSD Model 3 just turned one year old. The updates and improvements over the past year have continuously improved my enjoyment i.e. no hedonic adaptation. Elon if you re reading this hire some psychologists and enhance this feature. | 2020-05-19 00:47:03 | 29 | Flooring it in my Performance 3 never gets old it s been 1.5 years and it still makes me grin. I imagine Ludicrous mode in the S is the same way. | 2020-05-19 01:41:19 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,761 |
Can we stop calling anyone who criticises the price of upgrades whiners ? | We get it there s a lot of talk about how people were taken by surprise by the upgrades but what s not cool is simply dismissing these people and their concerns - it s pretty condescending. Having the opinion that the pricing of upgrades is excessive is just as valid as the we knew it was coming opinion and it s not entirely unjustified opinion either. A lot of us are in the camp of just wanting either a long-range Model 3 or an autonomous one but both of those push the car into the $40k+ price range which is by no means mass-market . Then you ve got people with preferences for a mix of those upgrade options including a different colour or wheels not to mention people who desperately wanted a glass roof which pushes the price further into the field of dreams for a lot of starry-eyed potential first-time tesla owners. | 2017-07-31 00:24:45 | 164 | Get ready for the cancel your order soon so I get mine sooner audience. | 2017-07-31 00:28:41 | 124 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,553 |
Console Reboots | I had the console reboot like 20 times today on my drive into work. I spoke with a service tech and he said it was likely a network issue. I ve only had the car for two weeks is this something that happens often or is this just an occasional outage? Is this happening for everyone? | 2016-10-11 15:20:58 | 12 | Yes I am having that too! But don t worry it s not normal. I ve had mine over 2 years and this is the first time it has happened. | 2016-10-11 15:53:40 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,114 |
Any fellow owners get modifications? (Ex: puddle lights lighted T additional lighting dash cams etc) | Was browsing [TeslaTap](http: teslatap.com modifications ) because I like the puddle lights lighted T and want to install some trunk frunk lighting when my cars comes - have any of you done mods (or had some one else do them)? I haven t decided yet if the puddle lights and lighted T are too flashy for me. I m also looking to put in front rear dash cams if anyone has suggestions. I see on TM TMC the BlackVue line is popular. Cheers | 2014-10-17 20:48:00 | 7 | There are some good Tesla Model S lighting mods (frunk trunk) on this site: http: evannex.com | 2014-10-17 21:20:00 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,667 |
Buying a used 2012 Tesla Model S 40kwh for 15 000? | Hello everyone a private seller have just offered me a used 2012 model S tesla with signature red and 55k miles for 15 000. Should I buy it? Also I plan to take to to Tesla to do an inspection before I buy it. Looking for advice thank you! Edit #1: A little bit of update on the car. The Model S is still under the 8 year battery warranty and the title is clean. The seller is a local business owner who is indeed of cash and therefore is selling his own tesla for it. I will ask for the VIN and hopefully update again soon! Thank you. :) | 2016-04-10 17:35:11 | 46 | Always do an independent inspection. *Only $15 000?? Yeah see above.* | 2016-04-10 17:45:20 | 57 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,173 |
Question For Tesla Owners | Hello I have a couple questions for the Telsa owners on this page. Q1) If you dont mind me asking how much did you put down on your car and what are you payments. own lease Q2) What model did you get? Q3) in cold weather do you see a big drop in battery life? Q4) Do you have to pay per mo for the internet connectivity? Q5) handling in the snow in your personal experience. Q6) your experience with charging your car? Ever forget to charge? Thanks :3 Edit Questions from commenter s Q7) What is the service and maintenance cost like? | 2014-02-18 03:16:16 | 28 | 1) Paid about a third down remainder as a loan. Considered paying for it in full upfront but interest rates are so low I could find better things to do with the money. Tesla does not have a lease program all vehicles are purchased only. If you finance the purchase through their lender they have a buyback guarantee after 3 years which makes it similar to a lease but it s still a purchase. 2) Model S 60 kWh. My driving needs are 100% met by this battery capacity so I couldn t justify going for the 85. 3) There is a drop in cold weather but it s a small percent. Nothing huge. 4) Internet is free currently but won t be forever. Tesla has not announced pricing but I would expect it to be maybe $10-$15 mo. The Model S can connect to wifi so if you have a phone hotspot you can tether to you could get internet in the car that way. The primary use for internet would be for maps on the center display and streaming music. 5) No experience on the snow. Other: Service inspections which cover all annual maintenance are $600 per year. There s very little regular maintenance on the Model S: no oil changes spark plugs belts. Even brake pads need replacement much less frequently due to regenerative braking providing significant stopping power. It s the best car I ve ever owned and the only one which actually makes me WANT to drive. | 2014-02-18 04:45:52 | 19 | Tesla Warranty Maintenance Insights | 15,740 |
[Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | Speculating with a stranger on the internet. I ll take it with a whole rim of salt. Hope you re right though. | 2017-07-28 01:26:54 | 96 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 25,248 |
2019.16.1 for Tesla Model S release notes for UK | Just got this update and it features NoA for the UK - woo! Downside is the Autosteer limitations. Thought I d share as Model S X doesn t seem to get as much love these days :-) Full notes in this link: [https: imgur.com a Qd6ULMW](https: imgur.com a Qd6ULMW) | 2019-05-16 19:21:18 | 38 | The auto steer regulations make no sense to me at all. “Let s nerf auto steer to make it pointless and less safe”. Thanks EU. | 2019-05-16 19:27:20 | 17 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 488 |
Tesla Wall Charger not eligible for UK Home Chargepoint Grant | I have been looking at the UK s Home Chargepoint installation grant which allows for up-to 75% of the cost of installing a fixed charger to be covered by a grant. The GOV website offers a list of approved chargers and Tesla is [not on that list](https: www.gov.uk government uploads system uploads attachment_data file 867898 electric-vehicle-homecharge-scheme-approved-chargepoint-model-list.csv preview) Since July 2019 there has been an additional requirement that all home chargers purchased under this grant much be smart . The definition of what makes a charger smart is its ability to reduce power output depending on the needs of the electrical grid. Tesla s latest [Wall Charger](https: www.teslarati.com tesla-3rd-gen-wall-connector-charger-review-video ) has built-in WiFi connectivity but the use of this has not been disclosed yet. I am wondering how long it may take for the new Wall Charger to have the function to reduce load and whether anyone with other branded wall chargers (PodPoint Rolec etc) have noticed unusual charging activity because their charger has limited the output? | 2020-02-27 18:45:11 | 38 | Your best bet for the UK if you have a single charging requirement is to get any one of the many smart chargers out there. The Tesla charger is essentially just shiny and app connected but there are other shiny and app connected smart chargers out there that qualify for the grant and all will work with an EU Tesla. As far as I am aware while the smart chargers have this capability it is not currently enabled and primarily serves to log data. The future purpose of any limiting has not been mentioned but existing chargers can be configured to reduce or stop charging when electricity is expensive which helps reduce the cost of running an EV even further and has the side bonus of generally reducing CO2 emissions. | 2020-02-27 20:37:49 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 19,614 |
Tesla s Trucks & Wrightspeed? | What are the chances that Tesla can bring back Ian Wright or acquire Wrightspeed to integrate the electric drivetrain from the Tesla founder s electric trash truck into the new Top Secret truck design? | 2016-07-22 00:26:21 | 5 | I thought about this immediately as I read about the truck. I think it would be very cool to fold a founder back in. | 2016-07-22 02:13:35 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,212 |
[Discussion] Canadian Model S delivered as US model | Hello All I have an S delivered in September of 2017 and I noticed it had some USA model oddities such as black seatbelt buttons etc. I haven t minded as I prefer the seatbelt buckles. What I am concerned about is my ability to register the car if I was to move provinces or to the USA and back in the future. Has anyone else had a US model delivered outside the US? Is this car permanently registerable in Canada or could it be randomly deemed illegal? | 2018-05-03 12:20:46 | 6 | Call Tesla. This is probably illegal and they need to fix it. | 2018-05-03 12:31:34 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,240 |
Model Y Wireless Charger + Samsung S20+ | Hello My S20+ doesnt work with the wireless charger in my Model Y. Its interesting because when I showed it to the service center they tried it on the model 3 wireless charger and it worked fine. They were really stumped on the issue so they ended up just giving me a m3 wireless charger which is interchangeable with the my except the cables. For now I can only use half the pad. I guess I need to buy a usb-c to 2A splitter? anyone else have any similar issue ? | 2020-06-12 01:34:21 | 5 | I dont have a case on my phone | 2020-06-12 04:58:22 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,975 |
UK Model 3 Insurance? | Anyone have any information or predictions on what the Model 3 insurance will be like? In comparison to the Model S & X that is. I understand it may be cheaper due to the price tag but there s the whole new car factor. Thoughts? | 2017-08-10 08:29:45 | 9 | Wait. It ll be 18 months before it s an issue. | 2017-08-10 09:34:47 | 9 | Tesla insurance pricing comparison | 21,592 |
Here s why buying a Model 3 will probably save you money even when compared to your modest car (or - how I justified my order) | I ve had my 2006 Nissan Frontier for four years. Initial purchase price was $16 000 with 50% down. I paid off the two year loan in one year but still ended up paying $170 in interest. Insurance has varied but I was most recently billed $800 for six months and as far as I recall that s a pretty close average. As far as fuel it only gets 14 mpg (usually less) and at the US average gas cost of $2.54 driving my annual 15 000 miles extrapolates to just over $2 720 per year. It doesn t have and never had a warranty so maintenance has costed me and I ll have to take the biggest liberties with maintenance costs. I just recently spent $3 500 on the timing chain and a transmission coolant fix but I haven t kept good track of others. I am confident that was less than half of my total maintenance costs so we ll go with a conservative $7 000 in maintenance since I bought the truck. This brings us to a four year total of a whopping $40 530. The KBB private party value is now $8 500 (private party) so in theory if I sell it and walk away I will have spent $33 010 in four years. Tesla calculations should be easier due to warranty but more difficult due to unknown future battery and maintenance costs. Initial purchase price is $49 000. Interest over the life of the loan will cost about $2000. As far as fuel the Model 3 uses 0.237 kWh per mile. Multiplied by 15 000 miles per year and by the current average US cost of 12 cents per kWh is $426 per year. Tesla offers a four year warranty on the car covering damn near everything except tires and brakes which I didn t include on the truck (but incidentally the brake pads last over 100 000 miles due to regenerative braking). The warranty is eight years on the battery. My insurance was quoted at $1350 per six months. That s a four year total of $61 564. Since I can t ask KBB the future used car value I ll look at the starting price of a new Tesla Model S - $75 000. KBB says a four year old one with 48 000 miles is worth $45 000 (private party). That s a 40% drop in four years. If the Model 3 follows that same trend it should be worth $29 400 in four years. That makes the four year walkaway $32 104. Cheaper than my truck. Thoughts? Corrections? Also I ordered on Oct 14 so I expect to get the full tax credit but I didn t even include that in this calculation. Edit: Kept mileage the same Edit 2: I ve gotten a lot of good insight from you guys and despite the fact that some of you are more polite than others I appreciate hearing the different perspectives. Thanks for catching my sloppy math but at this point I think I ll just leave it alone and acknowledge that yes - it s not my cheapest option. But it s cheaper than I thought and after weighing the pros and cons I m still glad I made the order. Thanks Reddit! | 2018-10-21 06:43:40 | 28 | > Thoughts? I went from a 11 yr old used Toyota to the P3D+ I haven t found a type of math yet that shows I ll have saved any money but boy is it fun to drive! | 2018-10-21 07:07:07 | 53 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,848 |
Drove a P100D last weekend and saw the 3 at the LA Auto Show. A few thoughts... | I ve been going back and forth on my day 1 3 reservation...until last week. The P100D was ridiculous - seeing auto pilot work was like seeing color tv for the first time. I drove home in my Jeep feeling like it was 1860 and I had a horse and carriage. However the interior looked shit and the 3 was the same way today. Also the rear still looks a bit Mazda 3ish. If there was a decent competitor (save maybe the XC40 but it s ICE) then I would go for it. However Tesla seems to be 3 years ahead of the game so I m sticking with my 3. | 2017-12-10 02:59:03 | 28 | Maybe I m weird but I don t think Mazda 3 resemblances are necessarily a bad thing. | 2017-12-10 03:10:51 | 28 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 5,704 |
v9 HOV Routing | Has anyone noticed a difference in their navigation routing post v9 using the HOV setting? I m in SoCal...use of HOV pretty much the reason for Tesla. I was hoping that with the new setting the Nav will use HOV especially the dedicated ones into consideration when planning routes. Alas it doesn t. There not only isn t a graphical representation on the map of the HOV to take but the time to destination calculation also doesn t take correction for HOV access. To compare Waze setting of HOV will specifically adjust directions to account for HOV ingress egress points and of course recalculate time to destination based on perceived HOV traffic. Whenever there is a dedicated HOV ramp that is physically separate from main freeway (e.g. 105-110 joiner 5-170 split 5-14 Newhall Pass split) the Tesla nav just routes me through standard ramps and exits showing the right lanes to take instead of the leftmost. When in AP same thing occurs. when the HOV lane splits it just usually hugs one side and it s a guess which path AP will follow most times having to disengage and realign to new lane. I mean the Nav should know that 170 goes left and 5 goes straight right - based on position right? Has anyone had any different experience with this? Curious if it s working for someone. & #x200B & #x200B | 2018-10-17 23:14:31 | 24 | Have not noticed any changes we have HOT (HOV Tolling) lanes which also have special ingress egress points and Waze handles these as well nothing from Tesla on it - in fact it seems to ignore HOV and tries to route me to back and side roads when Waze shows HOT lanes are much faster & #x200B | 2018-10-18 00:13:05 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 25,555 |
How do I get the Premium Connectivity subscription | Hello all sorry if this has already been answered but I did a quick search and didn t find anything. I recently purchased and got my Model 3. I got the partial premium package and Standard Plus. I d like to subscribe to the Premium Connectivity but I can t seem to find out how. I ve contacted a Tesla via 3 different channels (website and 2 contacts I had when purchasing my car) but have yet to hear anything back. Does anyone have a direction they could point me in? Thanks in advance! | 2019-06-29 22:52:31 | 23 | [For all Model S and Model X cars ordered on or after July 1 2018 Premium Connectivity will be complimentary for one year after delivery as well as all Model 3 cars with Premium Interior. After the complimentary period ends Standard Connectivity will be available for all cars at no cost and Premium Connectivity will be available for purchase via the in-car touchscreen. Connectivity plans for Model 3 without Premium Interior will be announced later this year.](https: www.tesla.com support frequently-asked-questions-connectivity) edit: the number that s been seen so far is [$100 year](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments ay0wvj) but of course it could change. | 2019-06-29 22:58:49 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,133 |
Sharing with y all my feedback to Tesla in response to the last question in their survey - What can we do to improve your Tesla experience? Ask and ye shall receive I guess. What s yours? | Edit: I m honestly perplexed by the influx of downvotes. Even if you re satisfied with Tesla as it exists today wouldn t you want your (and others ) experience to improve? What is the downside to any of my suggested changes? Edit 2: Appears this post is a poster child for Sort by controversial. 9K views 50% up downvoted. I d still like to hear why the downvoters disagree with what is recommended in the TL DR. \--------------------- To Whom it May Concern: You sent me a survey to better understand my post-purchase vehicle satisfaction. I m sure you ll be pleased to see that I am clearly still absolutely enthralled with my Model S even after almost 2 years of ownership. To provide a balanced perspective I felt it was important to also provide feedback on how I perceived your brand peripheral support tools and services as well as your various field service organizations. To be clear I am at least for now leaning towards NOT purchasing another Tesla as my next vehicle. My concerns are detailed below and I m sharing them because I believe Tesla still has an opportunity to change my leaning from likely not to likely yes if steps are taken within the reasonable near term (e.g. 6-12 months). What I m looking for is a visible and authentic acknowledgment of the concerns (not just mine but what you actually hear from your customers across the board and what top 3 issues or concerns emerge) along with a plan for addressing them. The best business is repeat business and as things stand now from my vantage point my and many others repeat business is at serious risk. Ok so let s talk turkey. Speaking only for myself I have to be blunt. The Service Center experience (or really any experience that involves trying to speak with a real person during the buying or post-purchase process) is pretty terrible. It s a 1 10 in the something I have to do that isn t work or chores list coming in just behind cleaning my pool filter. And it s not just one thing - it s a whole bunch of not-good experiences strung together over time. First it has to do with Tesla providing only one entry point to their service reservation system - the Tesla app. This should be a case study for bad UX and a single point of failure but it s also impersonal inefficient and in some cases even confusing for the customer. Because the app limits any real opportunity for problem solving or conversational dialogue with some who-knows-where disembodied service advisor it results in multiple back-and-forth exchanges over time. I find myself describing the problem (if it s not a simple issue which I imagine represents at least a significant minority of your total service requests) or answering a (singular) question and waiting a day or two to hear back. Then after having lost context when the response comes in at some point in the future I tend to find the answer is another follow-up question or request for clarification. In many ways during this process I m reminded of how I feel I m making an appointment with the DMV and that s never a positive brand association. I do however rank the DMV appointment-making experience as marginally better than Tesla s because with the DMV s system you can use a computer OR your mobile device. Separate from the reservation process let s talk about the customer experience after arriving to the SC. My personal belief is that the odds of securing a loaner vehicle once on-site are about the same as the odds of hitting a royal flush in 5-card poker - a bad bet to be sure. As a result this leaves the customer with no choice but to make use of a provided Uber credit. I appreciate the fact that the credit is a fairly generous number and supports more than a few trips and I also appreciate that Tesla HAS an option other than having to find a friend spouse or public transport. BUT - there is a non-trivial amount of hassle and inefficiency that other LUXURY brand dealership service centers eliminate. And that means that if I take my vehicle to Audi to BMW or to Mercedes for service I don t have to plan for how I will manage transportation DURING the period of service. Using Uber is better than nothing but it is an added time and mental cost that other premium service experiences don t charge. I get that Tesla is theoretically attempting to automate as much as possible and thereby keep labor costs to a minimum but I would counsel Tesla leadership and brand stewards to consider the long-term impact til recently and probably even currently the cost of customer acquisition to Tesla has been low due to grassroots marketing word-of-mouth and the (now cancelled) Tesla referral program. Clearly this marketing strategy can never be a long-term guaranteed model. Customer churn is something to fear - and it happens in large part because the affected company chose to disregard the intrinsic value of being able to speak with someone on the phone or at least on a real-time (not asynchronous) live-chat system. This gives the customer confidence that IN THE MOMENT a company representative understands their issue and will work with them on a solution. The app-based service center approach is trading off efficiency and or near-term cost savings for long-term customer disengagement and dissatisfaction. Moving on let s stay within the broader category of customer frustration and brand reputational damage but find a way of reducing both of those by investing in more thorough inspection of and correction for fit and finish issues. By this I specifically mean inspection and correction when the vehicle comes off the assembly line versus half-hearted or ineffective attempts to do so when the vehicle is already in the delivery center and due to the customer in the next hours or day. I recognize that improving quality is more than just encouraging employees to pay better attention to detail - it requires a commitment to quality assurance as a manufacturing protocol that requires a non-trivial investment in training people and infrastructure. However I can t think of any other brand s $100K+ vehicle that have multiple documented instances where a trip to the service center was required immediately after purchase to address things like paint defects or removal of a random screw that was rolling around in the door panel. And this isn t the customer s fault because they “didn t find the issue during delivery.” As it turns out issues with the vehicle tend to go unnoticed during the delivery process itself - due to the excitement of getting a new car and due to at least the first-time buyer s lack of familiarity with the vehicle and delivery process itself. These issues could in fact have a material impact on vehicle quality and safety. And then what? What is a customer to do if they find these issues on their driveway versus at the DC? As far as I can find there s no formal process for requesting remediation from Tesla forcing the customer to search on forums or call other owners in an extremely frustrating and unexpected cram session on the dark art of navigating Tesla s labyrinthine corporate support and service infrastructure. I can empathize with how frustrating finding yourself in this situation can be - because I experienced it myself. Although the issues were ultimately resolved it required over 20 phone calls (no exaggeration I have the call logs to prove it) to find the right actual person to speak with and 2 separate visits to the service center to finally get the issues remediated. This included a rear quarter panel and bumper full repaint replacement of a scratched carbon fiber spoiler the B-Pillar cover and baseplate realigned so the metal wasn t showing and the drivers-side LED trunk light permanently affixed in such a way that it no longer fell to the trunk floor every time I drove more than 2 miles. The first-month honeymoon period of any person s vehicle ownership tends to leave an indelible mark on a customer s psyche - particularly if it was negative. In my case it left me unable to make use of or consistently enjoy my vehicle for a full 8 calendar days during that month and the resulting dissatisfaction I felt then is still as fresh in my mind as it was 2 years ago. In terms of leaving a bad taste in a customer s mouth I equate it to a four-course meal of pickled herring paired with garlic-infused hummus followed by a main dish of liver and onions and finished with a playfully spicy roquefort cheesecake and a carafe of day-old black coffee unfiltered cigarettes as between-course palate-cleansing refreshment In case it wasn t already clear let me be blunt: I am currently unsupportive of Tesla as a brand and what it provides customers in the field. My own anecdotal personal observations coupled with recent articles in mass media and posts on social media sites lead me to believe that Tesla s brand has already been negatively impacted by Mr. Musk s recent online and offline shenanigans. In particular the Twitter debacle gives at least the appearance of disingenuous statements being made and bad-faith business practices being supported. This airing of dirty laundry is unfortunately (for Tesla) coinciding with ACTUAL availability of well-styled performant and equivalently (at the Model S and X tier) priced vehicle options from traditional auto manufacturers. It s an unfortunate series of events for Tesla but it presents potential EV (new and existing) with an unprecedented array of non-Tesla options. I suspect that the reason I m receiving this survey 2 years after I purchased my vehicle may be driven in some part by a concern within Tesla corporate that maybe things aren t all rainbows and unicorns in terms of overall customer satisfaction and my goal with this ridiculously long diatribe is simply to tell you these four words: your concern is real. I suggest you work quickly to make some changes. TL DR - Focus Tesla s “social media” brand marketing to be more about the company itself than Mr. Musk fix your pre-delivery quality issues fix your lack of Service Center personalization and find non-Uber options to (significantly) bolster your availability of in-service loaner vehicles. IMHO even making it a goal or initiating a project program that can be reported on as funded and to commence at a future date in your next 10K would be a very promising step forward. | 2022-08-05 01:27:42 | 23 | I can t do that. | 2022-08-05 15:56:11 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,087 |
Differences between custom order and existing inventory Model S? | I got a good offer to trade in my 2017 Model S 75D and am looking for a performance model. I see a few 2020 existing inventory models available for a bit less than a custom order. What will I lose or gain if I buy a 2020 vs 2021? Is the battery pack the same and range still near 400? | 2020-11-11 21:22:50 | 6 | You should find out when the inventory model was built. You may find some are quite older than you would think. | 2020-11-11 22:22:05 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,105 |
[Discussion] Model 3 Pano Roof Issues? | 800 miles and I ve developed a massive crack in the middle of the roof. I quadrupole checked for ANY impact and there s absolutely nothing that should have caused an issue. I did take an “s” on-ramp somewhat aggressively and felt some body flex but I wouldn t think that would crack the roof. Has anyone else experienced this? I m assuming Tesla will just take care of this do they provide loaners or am I just out of luck for as long as it takes to fix? | 2018-04-28 18:23:35 | 38 | You certainly aren t the first person to experience issues [Cracking Roof](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7racni model_3_glass_roof_potential_issue_looking_at_the ) [Cracked Roof](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8dkyz5 model_3_cracked_roof_glass_just_delivered_413 ) [Chipping Roof](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8f8qdr discussion_model_3_roof_is_this_normal ) There are some good speculations in the comments of those articles. Regarding whether or not Tesla will fix it you ll have to visit your local SC and ask. I imagine it s on a case by case basis. | 2018-04-28 18:38:38 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,565 |
Cabin Camara not working at night | Anyone else on FSD beta having problems with cabin camera working at night? Lately when I engage FSD beta at night after a few seconds the red steering wheel pops up telling me to take over. Then a message appears on the screen saying “cabin camera blinded or obscured” This only happens at night and if I turn on the cabin lights it works fine. So I m guessing it s night vision isn t working? Edit: Lots of good suggestions here. Thanks for the feedback! I think my window tint being too dark is the most likely problem. I m gonna try keeping the footwell lights on and see if that helps. Will update when I have a chance to test it. | 2022-07-04 04:34:07 | 25 | Are u black and or wearing black? | 2022-07-04 09:15:43 | 19 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 3,291 |
How difficult are we estimating it would be to have a hitch installed on a Model 3? | Bummer that it s not coming standard ... I just purchased a new mountain bike as I ve recently taken it up as a weekend hobby ... unfortunately for me the only bike rack that works with my bike is one that requires a hitch. With the Model 3 not coming with a hitch what s a guy to do? How difficult will it be to have a hitch put on after the fact? Even possible? Appreciate any input! Edit: spelling | 2017-11-05 12:48:00 | 8 | I think I recall Elon saying on the last conference call that the Model 3 is a 10-year program. I m sure a tow hitch will be an option eventually perhaps when they start producing the AWD version. | 2017-11-05 13:33:00 | 9 | Hitch Bike Rack Review | 8,125 |
Model 3 Performance (Stealth) 0-60mph comparison of 2019.36.2.1 vs 2019.32.12.4 | Below is a table of some 0-60 runs using a Dragy device on a P3D- (performance model 3 with 18 aero wheels instead of 20 performance wheels). Weather was \~60\*F. Dry road. Didn t do anything special to the battery or car but to charge to \~95% and drive out to where I have space to do the testing which is about 5 miles. & #x200B |Firmware|2019.32.12.4|2019.32.12.4|2019.32.12.4|2019.32.12.4|2019.32.12.4|2019.32.12.4| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Battery Percent|90-95%|90-95%|90-95%|90-95%|90-95%|90-95%| |Run #|1|2|3|4|5|AVG| |0-10|0.66|0.52|0.49|0.45|0.56|0.536| |0-20|1.22|1.06|1.03|0.99|1.11|1.082| |0-30|1.77|1.60|1.58|1.52|1.64|1.622| |0-40|2.32|2.13|2.13|2.03|2.15|2.152| |0-50|2.91|2.74|2.74|2.64|2.77|2.760| |0-60|3.67|3.47|3.51|3.36|3.49|3.500| |0-60 w rollout|3.36|3.23|3.30|3.17|3.23|3.258| |Slope|\+1.78%|0.00%|\+3.34%|\-0.61%|\+1.43%|\+1.19%| |Distance(ft)|165.88|162.78|166.89|160.41|161.10|163.41| & #x200B |Firmware|2019.36.2.1|2019.36.2.1|2019.36.2.1|2019.36.2.1|2019.36.2.1|2019.36.2.1| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Battery Percent|90-95%|90-95%|90-95%|90-95%|90-95%|90-95%| |Run #|1|2|3|4|5|AVG| |0-10|0.50|0.43|0.51|0.46|0.48|0.476| |0-20|1.04|0.98|1.03|1.01|1.01|1.014| |0-30|1.59|1.52|1.57|1.55|1.54|1.554| |0-40|2.13|2.07|2.10|2.09|2.07|2.092| |0-50|2.69|2.66|2.66|2.68|2.65|2.668| |0-60|3.35|3.36|3.36|3.38|3.33|3.356| |0-60 w rollout|3.12|3.18|3.15|3.17|3.12|3.148| |Slope|\-1.06%|\+3.09%|\+0.84%|\+1.65%|\-0.63%|\+0.78%| |Distance(ft)|154.47|159.41|156.17|158.96|155.82|156.96| & #x200B |Firmware|2019.32.12.4|2019.36.2.1|2019.32.12.4|2019.36.2.1| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Run|Best(Run#4)|Best(Run#5)|Average of 5|Average of 5| |0-10|0.45|0.48|0.536|0.476| |0-20|0.99|1.01|1.082|1.014| |0-30|1.52|1.54|1.622|1.554| |0-40|2.03|2.07|2.152|2.092| |0-50|2.64|2.65|2.760|2.668| |0-60|3.36|3.33|3.500|3.356| |0-60 w rollout|3.17|3.12|3.258|3.148| |Slope|\-0.61%|\-0.63%|\+1.19%|\+0.78%| |Distance(ft)|160.41|155.82|163.41|156.96| & #x200B So there s some data to digest. On average the new Firmware is slightly faster 0-60 and significantly more repeatable. The first run on the older firmware was very slow and brings down the average quite a bit. Comparing best times the difference is only about 0.03s to 0.05s depending on how you feel about 0-60 times with and without rollout. & #x200B EDIT: Added Distance in feet. The new firmware is consistently about 5-10ft shorter. | 2019-11-13 19:21:23 | 99 | Thanks for posting this comprehensive set of data! Do you have any 1 4 mile figures what you can compare with? | 2019-11-13 19:37:54 | 15 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 11,865 |
My estimated range doesn t add up | I have a Tesla Model S 75D. My daily charge gives me a rated range of 223 miles. I drove for 144.8 miles average energy usage 300 Wh mi (which is what my car is rated at) and my leftover range is 48? It should be 223 - 144.8 = 78.2 miles This isn t the first time I noticed it doesn t add up... Any one know the reason? Photos here: http: imgur.com a nkD58 | 2017-06-24 21:21:02 | 16 | If I remember correctly the rated range is calculated on 286 Wh mi not 300 & nbsp edit: 286 is for the classic 85 for the 75D is probably different | 2017-06-24 21:43:08 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 13,380 |
If you haven t had your Model 3 delivered yet check for price adjustments | I just had Tesla over the phone asking about the price change since I m awaiting my Model 3 s (LR AWD w EAP & FSD) delivery. No need to cancel reorder I just had to send an email to my Tesla sales rep and saved 1k€ on the car. Sweet! But they won t do it automatically. This is in France but wherever you are it is certainly worth checking if you can save a bit. | 2019-04-12 12:25:47 | 29 | Picking up my LR AWD on 4 19 I plan to call my sales rep at the pick up place as soon as they open here today. I didn t get auto pilot when I ordered and the LR AWD now with AP is $200 less than what I m paying. | 2019-04-12 13:24:48 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,519 |
two years from now: a new 3 or a used S? | Back of the envelope math says that I should be able to pick up a (CPO?) used S for about the same price as a new 3. If I don t stand in line and just wait for prices to drop what do you think? Is the 3 a BETTER car for the money? Related will the S still be produced in 2-3 years? Is the 3 gonna cannibalize the S? Edit: got rid of the problematic abbreviations for 3 and S | 2016-04-18 17:21:18 | 6 | I think the new model 3 will be a better choice. Tesla constantly improves their cars. Model 3 will have better technology compared to today s model S. However if you prefer a larger car I think CPO model S is a better deal. | 2016-04-18 17:30:39 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,543 |
New owner of 85D. First impressions. | Random observations: All cars will be like this in the future. I can t believe a car like this exists. I can t believe I spent so much money on a car. But no regrets. If you re in the market for a $60k+ car please take an extended test drive of any Model S first. You ll miss out big if you don t. Again I can t believe a car like this exists. I m doubling down on my TSLA stocks. This is crazy. It accelerates like a roller coaster stays glued to the road like it s on rails and sounds a quiet jet plane taking off. It s huge inside. The frunk is useless in D. The dash displays and controls are crazy intuitive but the response times could be quicker. Car nav is inferior to Apple Maps turn by turn imho. I can live in this while this thing is on and in a closed garage. Full charge every morning is a revelation. Tesla App is more handy than I expected. I want to drive this everywhere. I am looking for excuses to go do something far away just to get my Model S fix. If TACC is so good I can t imagine how much better it ll get with Lane assist. Sorry about this post but my mind is blown. And to think I was even considering S CLS Audi BMW at point of time. Please ignore this post if you ve read these reactions a million times before. **UPDATE**: Couple of people asked me about the frunk. Here are some pics: [Banana for scale (width)] (https: i.imgur.com W5S2Fya.jpg) [Banana for scale (depth)](https: i.imgur.com oVTdMS1.jpg) [Carry on bag that barely fits](https: i.imgur.com nTdBUKf.jpg) [Album](https: imgur.com a v5Msh) NOTE: Something is better than nothing and I am grateful for that. But it s less useful than I expected it to be compared to the non-D I test drove months ago. I expect to use this space only if I have maxed out storage in the trunk and back seats. | 2015-03-13 04:30:56 | 81 | Congratulations! I get mine on Monday. :D | 2015-03-13 05:02:56 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,965 |
Oh god :( | https: www.facebook.com 1320Videos photos a.438333882111.231127.75402982111 10153575417832112 ?type=1& theater Imgur mirror: https: i.imgur.com X3ImHef.jpg Why would anyone do this :| | 2015-08-11 21:26:24 | 15 | [The perfect response was found in the Facebook comments.](http: i.lvme.me oozm79d.jpg) | 2015-08-11 21:39:12 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,287 |
Nav on Autopilot construction worker and emergency braking... | 2018 Model 3 LR AWD FSD 2020.4.1 HW2.5 Video clip .38 to .46 time stamp. Heading to airport cruising along on NoA in a highway construction zone worker comes out a little to close with Jackhammer. System did not like it Alarms go off Red Steering Wheel of Death appears Emergency braking and antilock kick in car actually steered left that was not me turning the wheel happened to fast for me to respond. I was trying to figure out what was happening in front of me and then realized it must have been the construction worker that triggered it. I accelerated and steered it back and reengaged NoA. You can see the construction workers head look up at car when system activated and slid on gravel. It was not the black line from the bridge I ve been over that countless times without incident. System does work well although a bit jarring especially for my wife who was looking down at her phone when the alarms went off and car braked very hard. I think it is really Traffic Aware Cruise Control that handled this situation maybe somebody on here knows for sure which layer it is in TACC Autopilot or NOA…. Yes I know “Do not use NoA or autopilot or TACC in these areas for just this reason….” https: reddit.com link f4fbfu video 5yg4oclye5h41 player | 2020-02-15 20:38:31 | 91 | Looks like pedestrian avoidance working as intended. It predicted he would enter your lane and slowed down. I ve had almost this same situation happen at night when someone tried running across the freeway in front of my car. Autopilot braked before I even saw him. | 2020-02-15 20:46:55 | 120 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 13,598 |
[Discussion] Smart Button to Control Frunk | I d like to have a one-button access to control the frunk so I can open it quickly when approaching the car. (I know the fob does this but I don t want to spend $150 for a fob if a simpler more elegant solution exists). Has anyone used a low-energy Bluetooth device to control the frunk by using your phone key s access? I was thinking those selfie buttons for phones could be hacked to just communicate with the Tesla app but does anyone have any experience using a programmable Smart Button to work with the Tesla Stats or Remote S apps? From my research Flic looks like it may be a good candidate for something like this: https: www.amazon.com Flic-Wireless-Smart-Button-Green dp B00ZAEOZ2A ref=pd_lpo_vtph_60_tr_img_2?_encoding=UTF8& psc=1& refRID=T3F0R28Q6A6ZZ3XKB1JE Would like to know if anyone has found a good solution similar to this? | 2018-12-04 21:15:59 | 12 | Not one click but if you have an iPhone you can open the frunk from the Tesla widget. Just a swipe and press. | 2018-12-04 21:38:35 | 7 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 24,739 |
To those of you with Smart Air Suspension does it automatically lift the car to prevent bottoming out often? | Or is it something that has to be done manually? It would be nice if the car can sense when there s going to be a considerable dip in the road. If not just have to drive extra carefully? Or anticipate it and change the height of the suspension before going forward? | 2015-02-24 23:06:40 | 6 | to my knowledge the only automated height change is to very low when you are going highway speeds. all other height changes are based on what you tell it to do and they are stored in memory based on GPS location. the time it takes for the height to adjust is probably not fast enough to adjust in anticipation for obstacles such as speed bumps. It takes roughly 3-5 seconds to go from normal to very high I d guess. its still VERY useful fwiw. | 2015-02-24 23:28:00 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,293 |
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Is the 3 handover event being shown outside the US? | When I go to tesla.com I get redirected to the Australian site and there s no word of the launch are people in the US seeing anything on their page? | 2017-07-29 00:45:01 | 9 | Nothing on the US site yet either. | 2017-07-29 00:48:20 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,055 |
So I just put a deposit down on a pre-owned P85D with Tesla. It is going to be a tough 3 weeks waiting. I guess I could be waiting longer. | It has pretty much every option except ludicrous speed. Very excited... | 2016-02-04 13:01:54 | 67 | Congrats! Yes you could be waiting longer... if it makes you feel better some of us waited several months between order and delivery. The wait **will** drive you crazy but the insanity is worth it! | 2016-02-04 13:42:59 | 13 | Tesla Model Comparison | 17,370 |
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