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Let s take time and recognize that even after 16 months after unveil no new actual parameter about car leak (other than hints and Elon tweets..) Just for this reason this night will be really awesome! | We know that car will be overall great but so many parts of puzzle missing: packs sizes physical sw limited? real millages all options zero-sixties final UI and pricing!) For example when phones are unvieled usually every specifications and features is already dig up from fans. Yeah over last few months we too find out lot of new stuff possible features but besides hints from Elon not so much. Tonight will be surely exciting. | 2017-07-28 16:58:37 | 110 | Good thing no Tesla employees left one at a bar. | 2017-07-28 17:00:50 | 100 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,837 |
Experience for my Parents | Hello everyone! My folks are coming into town (Reno Sparks NV) and I have scheduled them a tour of Gigafactory 1 where I work. I d like to try to top off their experience by getting them a ride in a performance Model S or X. Nothing crazy just to take them down the highway so the can feel that sensation when you hit the accelerator. My dad is a contractor for Boeing Lockheed so this is the closest thing I can find to getting him into a fighter jet. For those in Giga you can find my email internally under Scott Folsom. For those outside the company that are willing to help you can PM me and I can send you contact info. Thanks everyone for the consideration! | 2018-10-18 22:34:19 | 16 | Wholesome Folsom | 2018-10-18 23:00:32 | 10 | Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions | 6,140 |
Is it at all possible that the Model 3 dash will remain as-is with no advanced HUD? | Related questions: Will HUD be an extra add-on and if the HUD is so great wouldn t it eventually make its way to the Model S? Just seems odd we still haven t seen what Tesla s plans are for the instrument cluster area if any | 2017-02-09 15:16:11 | 18 | IMO having no speedometer blinker etc. directly in front of the driver is not going to happen. | 2017-02-09 15:46:24 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,956 |
Another Xpel Stealth over Deep Blue Metallic in progress | I picked up my Model S 100D last week. Deep Blue Metallic exterior Ultra-White interior 19 Slipstream wheels. I drove it straight to my neighborhood detailer who is now doing the following: * Full Paint Correction * Xpel Stealth Full Body PPF wrap * Powdercoating the wheels * Painting the brake calipers * CeramicPro coating over wrap wheels and calipers * Tinting the windows * Installing BlackVue 2-channel dashcam * Full Interior CeramicPro interior fabrics treatment I have made a photo album on Imgur with the photos that my detailer sends me as the work progresses and I would like to share it with the community here: http: imgur.com a utgOv | 2017-04-06 02:48:05 | 44 | If you don t mind me asking...what s the cost for all that? | 2017-04-06 03:06:08 | 3 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 1,549 |
PSA: For those taking delivery of their Model 3s in Europe currently Autopilot is not enabled yet. | [This](https: www.latimes.com business autos la-fi-hy-tesla-autopilot-europe-20190207-story.html) article explains why. TLDR: - “At this moment the autopilot is not part of the original Type Approval of the Tesla Model 3 ” According to a Tesla representative: > “We are planning to enable Autopilot in Europe beginning next week ” a Tesla spokesman told The Times on Thursday. The company did not answer any other questions including one about when it expects type approval for Autopilot. | 2019-02-07 19:29:28 | 55 | This really makes me think it s AP3 hardware... | 2019-02-07 19:40:09 | 18 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 14,818 |
Tesla Body Shop Runaround... | We ve had our Model 3 less than a year. We received it in May of 2018 and LOVE it. We are considering purchasing a second TM3 for my wife. However our experience with Collision Repair is crazy and gives me pause. My wife was driving our Model 3 and was stopped in traffic. A utility (bucket) truck rear-ended her leaving an imprint on the bumper and denting and misaligning the trunk lid. The flashers automatically engaged as expected and everyone was fine. My wife tweaked her back which was repaired two years ago but otherwise is okay. The car is driveable and the only issue so far is phantom cars following us on the Nav screen. The trunk lid is a bit ajar but looks like it is still sealing against water. We called our insurance (MetLife) and they have been great. We then started looking into how to get our Model 3 repaired. That s where things went off the rails. I called the Service Center where I picked up the car and who replaced my Nav screen a couple months back. According to Tesla s site the Dallas Service Center is available for light collision repair. However when I called they said they didn t and that I needed to visit their Body Shop Support site...which is where I got the idea to call the Service Center based on the quote above. So I visit the Body Shop Support site and send an email to the link at the top of the page ([[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])). I receive a quick response thanking me for my email and instructing me to visit their Body Shop Support website. Not helpful at all since the site to which they refer me is the site from which I got their email address in the first place. So I go back to the Body Shop Support site and it shows myriad Service King Collision Repair centers near me. Awesome! My insurance prefers the Wylie location so I schedule an appointment for an estimate. I arrive this morning at my appointment time only to be told that they don t work on Teslas. As far as they knew no Service Kings do. Yet the website lists many tens of locations around the DFW metroplex that purportedly do. Frustrated I call the Tesla Service Center again and talk to Walter. Walter informs me that the Service King locations can work on Teslas. I inform him that I was told otherwise. He suggested I make an appointment at a different shop on the list. I asked what the odds were that I d fair any better. He then suggested me to call each repair shop on the list until I find one that repairs Tesla vehicles. Seriously. I asked him if this was Tesla s official answer. He put me on hold to confer with a colleague...and yes that was Tesla s official answer. Call every repair shop in their list. So I find Service King s Tesla-related web page where they tout their ability to repair Teslas. There is a Toll-Free number there and I call it. They inform me that only a single Service King in the Dallas area can repair Teslas (the US-75 & Royal Ln location) but they are so backed up that they aren t accepting any new Tesla repair jobs. They suggest I contact Trade Secret in Plano TX. I search further and find that John Eagle Collision Center near Love Field repairs Teslas. So it looks like I have two options. Further exploration uncovers various others like me who have had incredibly long waits for repairs at these two options so my hopes are not up. I have contacted my insurance company to see if they have a preference. We ll see. While I love the Tesla mission and I love my Model 3 waiting over two years to receive it after initially reserving it the collision repair process is a glaring omission from their process and business model. Sounds like a great business opportunity for body repair shops with aluminum experience. My repair is likely simple: replace the trunk lid and bumper assembly (likely including the radar sensors) and paint to match. Who knows when I ll be able to get it repaired. We rarely have collisions and this and the last several have NOT been our fault. The odds of our needing collision repair historically has been rather low. But if the repair process is this flawed it may be a while before I purchase another Tesla vehicle unfortunately. & #x200B | 2019-01-22 22:14:03 | 39 | This is the biggest risk to Tesla s brand moving forward. I hope the same focus and drive that was put into the ramp of Model 3 is being put into the ramp of the service supply chain and logistics. | 2019-01-22 22:53:53 | 29 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 18,428 |
500% Referral boost dependent on delivery date - not order date! | Edit: my bonus has been fixed I now have 15000 km (2x7500 km). Thanks Tesla Turns out the 500% referral boost is dependent of the delivery date and not the order date. This means that all the work many of us has put into getting referrals in may is basically wasted as orders or most likely delivered in june or later. I have three referrals made in beginning of may. So i m pretty pissed about this. & #x200B This doesn t make any sense and makes it totally random who gets the 500% boost. It s basically like saying: so you made an extra effort while the boost lasted. Well too bad. Ha ha. Got ya. & #x200B I really don t think this is fair at all. It should be dependent on order date and not delivery date. I hope you will upvote this if you agree that this is wrong. | 2019-06-03 15:45:01 | 78 | Although it is true that the system is handling awarding free supercharging this way. I am relatively certain that it is a systemic programming error that will eventually be corrected retroactively. As I understand it Tesla is well aware of the issue. I can confirm this is happening in my account. | 2019-06-03 16:36:58 | 17 | Tesla Referral Program Issues | 767 |
Driving my Tesla for Uber around Denver Comic Con this Weekend | I live in Wyoming and thought it would be fun to to Comic Con and use Uber to give rides. Not really hoping to make any money as much as spread the good word and get more EV s on the road. Gave my first ride last night and it was a lot of fun showing what the Tesla can do to a group that had never been in one before. | 2016-06-17 17:30:31 | 28 | Are you launching it for people or keeping it calm? | 2016-06-17 17:46:33 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,693 |
Insightful video from Bjorn showing how the Model S AWD is dynamically switching from all-wheel drive mode to front wheel drive for efficiency. | Telematics data displayed on the left side of instrument panel. Mostly on the last 7 minutes of video. [https: youtu.be lL9\_-3p3AMw](https: youtu.be lL9_-3p3AMw) The P versions have a larger rear motor tuned for power and smaller front motor for cruising so it makes sense to run front-wheel drive for cruising efficiency. Question: how about the non-P AWD where the rear and front motors are the same size--does it also switch to front-wheel drive mode? & #x200B What about for the AWD Model 3? & #x200B | 2018-10-20 18:00:16 | 45 | My guess for the AWD Model 3 is they would only use the rear motor when cruising. Since the rear motor is switched reluctance PM you can t let it free spin due to the permanent magnets always producing a magnetic field. The front induction motor has no magnets so when there is no power to the motor it can just spin freely with only minimal frictional forces to overcome. | 2018-10-20 19:59:08 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,700 |
Feature Request Megathread | Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | 2021-01-26 14:00:22 | 62 | Waypoints in navigation. Allow us to set multiple destinations in a route. And in the same line allow us to search on route and add something as waypoint. For example on a trip if we need a rest stop or to look for the nearest Chick Fil A on route should be able to search along route and add as waypoint. | 2021-01-26 14:17:39 | 105 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,899 |
Tesla as a road trip vehicle ? | Not sure if this is the best place to ask but thought I d give it a shot !! My wife and I are looking to get a vehicle to road trip in and didn t know if we should stick to gas cars for that or if a Tesla is doable and stress free ? We own a Bolt EV and Fiat EV ( yes not the best but they make do ) ) but never experienced a Tesla on long distances. Do they work? Are they stressful ? Does it make sense more financially to get a Tesla ? Heck we just drove to cali from AZ and cali is sitting around 4.80 a gallon. Big oof. Pros and cons of either or ? I personally love all EVs and don t want to deal with maintenance long term with a gas vehicle… | 2021-06-30 19:25:24 | 58 | > Do they work? Yes assuming there is a charging network along the route. Check out the red dots here: https: supercharge.info map > Are they stressful? Not unless you re deviating from the Tesla super charger network. I actually find them less stressful than other cars because of autopilot and skipping gas station lines. > Does it make sense more financially to get a Tesla? Only you can decide that. | 2021-06-30 22:42:50 | 95 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,686 |
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Model 3 upgrade recommendation - cargo & rear passengers | Hi all have had a Model 3 LR AWD since fall 2018 very happy with the car. Single car household married no kids 2 cats.. Model 3 has served us well as a city car even though we live in an charger-less apartment building. I did notice on the few occasions where we drove with friends the rear seats are not the roomiest for adults even smaller people. The last 6 months with WFH we ve been in a house 2hr away from the city and once things go back to normal will be in some sort of hybrid WFH policy plan to go back& forth once or twice a month. I am finding that going back & forth with wife pets and cargo the Model 3 can be quite limited. The cats effectively take up a seat in the rear and do better if my wife sits in the back with them meaning 2 rear seats are in use and the front seat empty. So how do other Tesla models compare in terms of cargo while rear seats are in use? Model Y is the easiest upgrade money wise but is the incremental cargo space & large rear hatch a big enough difference? Model X money aside seems like the ultimate answer though I could probably keep my Model 3 + add a Model Y for the price of upgrading to X. Also the rear doors freak me out a bit and I m 99% sure we won t be able to open them in our house s cramped 1970s size garage which also has some HVAC ducts running along the ceiling as well. Model S .. is it a contender? Bigger frunk bigger trunk larger rear hatch opening roomier and priced between Y & X? I ve driven one a few times as a test drive and a service loaner. Also I did find in the country during winter storms that the Model 3 ground clearance caused me to bottom out in intersections where the plowed snow accumulated.. had to dig myself out 2-3 times. Model Y does not seem much better at least S& X I can adjust the ride height up to highest setting? I look at the Rivian R1S and wish Tesla had an SUV in that price size category. The Cybertruck is interesting and affordable but would be kind of insane driving around Brooklyn with the thing. Thank you for indulging my personal car recommendation request :-) | 2021-04-23 21:07:40 | 9 | I don t know how cramped it is on your travels but unless there is significant difficulty bringing things (e.g. you have to leave stuff that you need) on these trips I wouldn t splurge on a new car. | 2021-04-23 21:10:41 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,411 |
[Discussion] The last few Autopilot updates have been taking turns really well | Anyone else feel that the past updates or so have been great for sharp turns? It s been reducing my speed by up to 30mph on the sharp highway merge ramp turns. Really comfortable and not stressful like it once was. | 2018-05-31 22:37:55 | 48 | Can t wait for the day when they announce the model 3 drove coast to coast with no human intervention. Production outage ends today. Bottlenecks should be worked out in the next week or two. Then the Musk ox will turn his attention towards AP. | 2018-05-31 22:58:07 | 28 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 24,822 |
Why can t Tesla just create a chain of dealerships that have all but no markup to open in states banning direct sales? | I m just curious why Tesla can t open a chain of dealerships that operate on a cost + .01% model or something? This could even be a temporary measure for states that ban direct sales until they can open a direct store. | 2017-01-04 06:50:04 | 45 | It would need to be a seperate company and corporate identity than Tesla | 2017-01-04 07:00:37 | 49 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,420 |
Cabin Camera | Has Tesla started shipping Model S X with the camera above the rear-view mirror? This could be a big reason why it wasn t announced in the event on the 31st. We could probably expect a refresh of the S X interior in the coming months. https: twitter.com elontimes status 892764644179406848 | 2017-08-02 15:30:27 | 18 | You know where they should put a camera? In the footwell so there will be no more autopilot accelerated by itself claims. | 2017-08-02 16:54:42 | 15 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 3,292 |
I love the US indicators of the model 3 and Y | As a European I only get to see the European version of the model 3 and Y. Since new cars have to have amber indicators they can t just use the brake light as an indicator like in the US. However this leads to an issue with those Tesla models. For example most cars that are designed for the European market have a separate indicator lights that are easy distinguishable form the brake lights since they a different position and normally an amber color. However it doesn t seem like the Model 3 was designed that way. It seems more like they just took a small part of the brake light made it amber and used it as the blinker. In theory that sounds good enough but I have noticed that its really hard to see the indicators when the driver is braking and you are not directly behind the Tesla or see it from a slight angle. That is because the indicators are very tiny. If you look closely you can still see it but I just think something like an indicator should be easy to see not matter the angle or distance. For that reason I would prefer the big blinker of the US versions even in Europe. [Here is a video to help you understand what I mean](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=dDDFSI_5_jk). (Like I said it is much harder to see in person from a distance or angle) I just want to add that the model 3 and Y are not the only cars with that issue. I ve seen many other cars even from VW Audi and Mercedes that have similar issues due to the blinker having a red tint and being really thin compared to the brake lights that output much more light. | 2021-07-01 18:02:24 | 29 | I wish my turn signal was amber. I hate how my model 3 uses a brake light as a turn signal. | 2021-07-02 02:20:25 | 76 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,011 |
All the internet radio works today | All of a sudden all of the stations and podcast actually loaded today. Is anyone else seeing this? | 2018-01-10 23:54:27 | 29 | East coast? TL DR LTE was inadvertently throttled causing problems with streaming. https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7p815j updatepoll_lte_throttling_update_from_tesla | 2018-01-11 00:36:48 | 14 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 1,403 |
Album Art | Does anyone have an issue of just completely random incorrect album art populating for Bluetooth audio? Regardless of if I m using music podcasts the SiriusXM app or Spotify the album art is very far off and often bizarre. | 2015-04-27 22:02:40 | 13 | That s because the car doesn t pull the artwork from your phone it finds the best match online and displays that. Kind of dumb but I m not an expert on bluetooth audio streaming so I m not sure if it s an oversight or they simply can t pull it form your phone. | 2015-04-27 22:30:24 | 3 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 1,382 |
Joe Giga Texas update: About 150 cars per day 1k per week being produced | [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=qnCOW6B1wnI& t=620s](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=qnCOW6B1wnI& t=620s) About 10:20 into the video | 2022-07-14 03:04:37 | 74 | So with Texas now doing 1K a week and Berlin doing 1K a week we can expect about 100K a year from both of them on top of the 600K from Fremont and 1 million from Shanghai. Which means that Tesla s current run rate is 1.7 million! Not bad | 2022-07-14 11:24:44 | 35 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,340 |
Who do I contact to install a charger for a company? | Hi Tesla community! The company I work for is currently looking to expand. We ll be constructing and designing our new building at our local airport. We re located in a pretty wealthy area and I ve seen quite a few Teslas parked at our airport as well. Since we re building from the ground up I figured it would be really nice to our customers to have a Tesla charger and a standard EV charger for them to use. Not like a wall charger for them but a special parking spot for them that has something [similar to this.](http: www.teslamotors.com tesla_theme supercharger images closeup.jpg) I was wondering if anyone knew who I should contact at Tesla to inquire about this. I looked on their website but I don t see a department that is close to what I m looking for. Thanks for your help! | 2014-12-15 16:51:12 | 10 | You could get a discounted high powered wall charger via [Tesla s Destination Charging Program]( https: teslafactory.wufoo.com forms destination-charging ). | 2014-12-15 18:33:36 | 7 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 23,312 |
Vehicle to Vehicle (V2V) charging ? | When ICE cars run out of gas we can get a gallon of gas from AAA to get to a gas station. Wouldn t it be great if mobile Super Chargers or V2V enabled Model 3 are available to provide emergency roadside service? Yes we all could be master planners but shit happens. Getting a tow to a charge point is a really inefficient way of servicing a vehicle in such situation. | 2016-05-31 20:07:22 | 16 | AAA Started a pilot program back in 2011 of adding a portable 240V generator to roadside assistance trucks. http: newsroom.aaa.com 2011 07 ev-charging-statio | 2016-05-31 20:57:31 | 11 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 22,055 |
Any bad experiences buying a demo vehicle? | I re-he-heeeeelllyy don t wanna wait until August to pick get my new Model Y so I m heavily considering just buying a demo Model Y or 3 right now. There are a bunch available in Existing Inventory in my area. Anyone have any bad experiences with demo vehicles? | 2021-06-04 00:25:57 | 43 | Bought demo vehicle. No difference from my non-demo vehicle. If anything they may be in better condition because they are directly shown to potential customers. | 2021-06-04 00:29:12 | 49 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,638 |
No more Model X inventory. Maybe they are announcing an update at the truck event. | I tried zips from a few different states and there is no Model X inventory anywhere. Is this normal or could it mean they are clearing out inventory for an announcement next week (maybe an interior update)? I feel like they won t introduce the interior update at the same time as the battery update since they could spread out both of those updates for a bigger overall sales boost. Elon said Model S Plaid by next summer and I m guessing the Plaid will have the new battery update. So it s possible that we see an interior update before then. Edit: looks like several countries in Europe have a healthy dose of 2020 Model X in stock so that likely disproves my theory. Strangely all the European 2020s with white interior are still showing the old seats but maybe they just haven t updated the site. | 2019-11-17 04:44:13 | 232 | I don t think this means anything specifically. Tesla tends to list or delist cars from their website depending on demand. When they want to sell more cars they put up a bunch of inventory and when they re not pushing hard their website completely dries up. There s probably still cars available they just don t have everything publicly visible for some reason. Call an OA and see if they can find you something to get a more accurate view of what s happening. | 2019-11-17 05:22:12 | 110 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,083 |
I d like to put a deposit down for my brothers Model 3... for his birthday. A few questions... | A. He s already decided on getting the 3 so this won t be a surprise by any stretch but will the dealer let me put down a deposit for a 3rd party or should he be with me? B. He s getting his license in January. Will they let him us put the deposit down even if he s not licensed just yet? C. Can he switch options down the line or does he have to know the configuration he wants now? Thanks!! | 2017-09-11 15:08:24 | 13 | I would suggest making the reservation online and just use your brothers info. When time to pay the $1000 use your own credit card. If your billing address is the same as your brothers then it should be fine. If it s not list his address as your billing address and you can switch it later. Just make sure it s his name on the reservation. | 2017-09-11 16:11:59 | 10 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 8,800 |
Which year Model S should I be looking to allow for current HW SW? | I m considering a used Model S and would be fine with older models but I want to make sure I m able to use the latest software and hardware. I ve heard that older models can have their hardware upgraded to make them current however what is the OLDEST year I could be looking at to ensure this is possible? Thanks much! | 2020-04-15 15:30:03 | 18 | There are two important hardware pieces you have to look at. The infotainment system (MCU) and the Autopilot computer (HW). For most purposes you just need MCU2 and HW2.5 to consider yourself pretty set. Otherwise you can take the next step and aim for HW3. Keep in mind that hardware upgrades cost money. MCU1 to MCU2 costs $2 500. HW3 upgrade costs the full amount of FSD package since they said they d replace it for free with purchase. Also dates are sometimes gradients and you ll have stragglers that receive old hardware after the cutoff. Make sure to check each car before purchase. For a car that comes with MCU2 HW2.5 you want a car from after **March 2018**. For a car that is MCU1 HW2.5 you want a car from after **August 2017**. Then you d pay $2 500 to get MCU2. If you want a car with HW3 you would have to check each car after **March 2019** to make sure if it has HW3 or HW2.5. Alternatively you can pay for FSD and get an upgrade when it comes out. Theoretically with a purchase of both the MCU upgrade and FSD you should eventually be able to upgrade any Model S after **October 2016** to the latest. If you just want MCU2 I believe any Model S from **2012** should be able to get the upgrade. | 2020-04-15 15:57:31 | 76 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,291 |
Feature Request: Allow me to define (and share with others) areas where I DO NOT want EAP to operate | As someone pointed out in the post on the police car crash AP could still be on shadow mode and learn from human drivers navigating user-defined challenging zones. | 2018-05-30 01:54:07 | 13 | Or you can just not enable AP in areas you re not comfortable with... | 2018-05-30 01:58:36 | 22 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 6,406 |
I m not super happy with my Tesla S | I receive my Model S 6 months ago and it has visited the service center 5 different times for 4 different issues ( map not working doors made a rare sound 2 times mirrors not inclining) once for a mayor one (it just left me on the side of the road) Yesterday the sunroof didn t open they asked me to bring it to the service center again I understand must of this things are minor and the service center has resolved and they give me a loaner every time and are super nice but I did not expect this from a Tesla It seems I m the 1% in the 99% percent customer satisfaction poll... Had you experience something similar? Is there anything I can do? What are your thoughts? Edit: Thank you all for your responses I think it is important that we express our frustrations and problems with Tesla Other buyers will know that even is a very good car it is not exempt of many problems Also Tesla will take more attention to details so this don t keep happening | 2015-09-29 12:11:44 | 111 | 19 visits in 1 year here. Hang in there. They will take care of everything. Yes it s super annoying but try to stay positive. Do you have any current issues right now? | 2015-09-29 13:41:20 | 75 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 9,074 |
Some questions for existing owners. | - Do you have to buy AP for auto-wipers and auto-highbeams to work? - What do you prefer Slacker or Tunein? Which one is worth getting a premium subscription? - What are some useful websites for EV owners. For example I just learned about abetterrouteplanner.com - How does charging work at public charging stations other than Tesla Superchargers Home Charging. Adapters needed cost time to charge etc? - Any other useful info. for us coming to EV for the first time? | 2017-12-11 16:26:28 | 8 | Auto high beams do work without AP (I have them and don t have AP :( ) | 2017-12-11 16:59:37 | 9 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 17,563 |
Does anyone know how tall a Model X is with the doors open? | I want to know if it will fit in the garage with the doors open or if I can open the doors with it in the garage. I can t find the dimensions in the manual. | 2017-06-13 01:50:10 | 13 | Memory says 84 inches The car will also only open the doors to the height it measured off the garage door from when you drive in and won t open taller than that unless you press to open it further | 2017-06-13 02:06:58 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,448 |
Model 3 for Apartment renters | Recently there have been some great post about range anxiety and deciding between standard range and long range. But all of those posts typically operate on the assumption that you have a charger at home. I know I m not alone when I say I do not own a home. I live in an apartment complex. There is one charger on the complex and it would take about 18 hours to charge (assuming) the 50 kwh battery on the standard model 3 at 11 miles charges per hour (Its also $1.25 per hour. Which I think is pretty high) Surprisingly here in San Diego there are no supercharger stations. With work being 15 miles Away (40 daily with random errands) I m looking to charge my car every 4 days without an adequate charging solution nearby. What s the best solution for people who rent apartments? | 2017-08-01 21:23:30 | 19 | CA law requires landlords to allow you to install a charger - but you have to pay for it. Also look into other public stations on PlugShare | 2017-08-01 21:25:00 | 19 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 12,168 |
Did not following warning about avoiding test drives while waiting for 3... | Already reserved a Model 3 on Day 1 and scheduled HPWC installation to take advantage of the 2016 Fed EVSE credits. Then we took a test drive and have been bitten by the Tesla bug. Badly. Currently looking at a 2016 70D lease for 3 years. We re working through the financials now but it is doable. I like the idea of a lease for this vehicle in particular since the residual is guaranteed and I foresee the market value of the current Model S dropping once the 3 s tech is out in a few years. Thoughts? The wife is worried about charging on trips. PA doesn t have very good supercharger infrastructure right now so we d have to lean heavily on J1772 and 14-50 plugs scattered randomly. Our normal trip (at least once a month) is about 180 miles one way. Anything I can use to help her get over that fear or convince me it s a risky option right now? On a good note we both really appreciate the non-dealer experience. It s very refreshing. Tip: Heed the warnings! If you re not ready to buy now hold off on testing a Tesla. Because they are awesome. Edit: Deposit placed! | 2016-04-28 15:12:11 | 40 | Not gonna lie a 360 mile round trip without superchargers is going to be challenging. Check [plugshare](http: www.plugshare.com ) around and en route to your destination and keep in mind that the charge rate on J1772s varies- I ve had as slow as 11 mph in some. | 2016-04-28 15:22:55 | 14 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 5,078 |
Two cars phone key | Why do we have to switch cars in the app for the phone key to work? We just got our second Tesla and it is driving me bonkers. I often switch cars and this makes the phone key worse than the key cards or even a physical key. It is no longer a convenience feature. I know this has been mentioned before but I have not seen a reason for why. I can t think of one but is there a technical or security reason for this? | 2020-12-18 01:33:55 | 18 | Yeah this is definitely an oversight. Kinda shocked they haven t updated it yet. | 2020-12-18 01:39:55 | 19 | Model 3 phone key issues | 21,559 |
NJ residents question about EZ pass Green discounts | Are there any NJ Tesla owners with that commute in to NYC with the EZ Pass Green Car discount? I commute to Manhattan and live in NJ I have a NJ EZ-Pass and registered for the Green Pass discount. However it only applies to the Turnpike and GSP... I signed up because the Green Pass discount for the Tunnels drops the toll to $7.00 from the standard rate of $10.50 off peak hours. But that only works for NY EZ Pass...do I have to get a NY EZ Pass and close my NJ EZ pass account? | 2017-02-23 15:47:29 | 5 | I applied twice for a green NY EZpass. After mailing them the document...nothing. It s been over 6 months now. I ve called and the NY EZpass staff can t help. You might have better luck but what kind of business requires you to **mail** in an application for a **green** discount? | 2017-02-23 16:17:44 | 5 | EV Tax Credit Information | 13,564 |
Several videos of Tesla assembly line in the Sprung structure | [https: twitter.com i status 1009149175974453248](https: twitter.com i status 1009149175974453248) [https: twitter.com i status 1009148498774618112](https: twitter.com i status 1009148498774618112) [https: twitter.com i status 1009134913881190400](https: twitter.com i status 1009134913881190400) [https: twitter.com i status 1009132116590804992](https: twitter.com i status 1009132116590804992) [https: twitter.com i status 1009131264979267584](https: twitter.com i status 1009131264979267584) [https: twitter.com i status 1009129076425019392](https: twitter.com i status 1009129076425019392) [https: twitter.com i status 1009126738570330112](https: twitter.com i status 1009126738570330112) [https: pbs.twimg.com media DgEnNJSV4AE5DvE.jpg:large](https: pbs.twimg.com media DgEnNJSV4AE5DvE.jpg:large) Courtesy of: [**@IspyTsla**](https: twitter.com IspyTsla) | 2018-06-19 19:34:11 | 112 | I don t know why I read comments on Twitter. I think I have Super Cancer now. | 2018-06-19 20:14:45 | 93 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,073 |
Charging options for from Phoenix to El Paso TX? | I m considering getting a Tesla and have family in El Paso TX that I would like to visit. Ideally I would drive from the SF Bay area and do the supercharger hop. However the last supercharger on the way is in Casa Grande AZ which is 381 miles away. I heard that I can get adapters that will allow the Tesla to hook into other charging systems. What are my options for charging in the charging gap that is south New Mexico and west Texas? p.s. I ll likely organize an electrician to install a destination charger at my parent s place in El Paso which should take care of destination charging. | 2016-03-24 05:01:01 | 5 | I found several places to charge on http: www.plugshare.com in that area (I-10 corridor) that should be able to accommodate your travel plans. https: i.imgur.com ZPubtK0.png | 2016-03-24 05:05:56 | 5 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,850 |
What s the difference between autopilot in Europe and the US? | I live in Norway and picked up a new Model Y on Friday. Driving a few hours with autopilot on normal country roads I don t think I ve gone two minutes without having to step in and take over manually. It s cool when it works but because it fails so frequently I actually find driving without it (using only adaptive cruise control) to be more relaxing. Is this the same in the US? Is there usually a delay getting new ap software versions to Europe compared to the US? | 2021-09-12 14:41:08 | 14 | Europe s dumb laws reduces the usefulness of AP. It is very reliable in the US. | 2021-09-12 17:16:12 | 22 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 22,909 |
Thoughts on a Model S 75 w AP2 | I ve been keeping my eyes peeled for a Model S with synthetic seats (we re one of those hippie vegetarian households with no leather products) and AP2 hardware. That s not a common combination. Thanks to u mikeyro I found one: https: www.tesla.com used 5YJSA1E13HF202776 My only real concern is that it s not a D but since it s also not a P I assume oversteer isn t likely to be a problem. I ve driven my father s P90DL a good bit so I think I know the car fairly well. Is there anything in particular about a 75 (or this 75 specifically) that I should take into account? | 2017-07-17 16:02:57 | 8 | Just FYI you can t get P without D. | 2017-07-17 16:26:05 | 7 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 21,121 |
Feature Suggestion: Tap Tempo Windshield Wipers | As a musician I often use a delay effects pedal with a Tap Tempo foot switch. You press the button 4 times and it sets the speed of the delay. This function should be lifted and added to the windshield wiper stock. Click the windshield wiper button in a series of timed repeats to turn on and set the speed of the windshield wipers. Example as follows: [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=TM7rVTrz-ac](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=TM7rVTrz-ac) | 2018-12-22 23:31:29 | 43 | YES. This is a sick idea and the type of innovation I got a Tesla for. | 2018-12-22 23:33:50 | 17 | Tesla Model 3 Wiper Concerns | 6,488 |
Is there a historical record of performance gains that each model has had? | I could be wrong because I ve just recently started paying attention to Teslas as I m looking at purchasing within the first few days but I feel like I remember reading several articles throughout the year commenting on how an over the air update improved the performance of the car (think 0-60 gains from an update). Are these common? How often do they happen? I ask because I m interested in a Model Y and I m curious if it ll someday maybe be as fast as the Model 3 is currently? I love the higher ride height but you really can feel that the Model Y is a bit slower than the Model 3 (though it s not that often you d be flooring it). Conversely will we see a day when the Model S X have moved up in speed enough to allow the Model 3 Y to be sub 3s cars without eating sales from a performance perspective? | 2020-11-20 23:03:25 | 19 | I think it is more important to recognize why these happen. Tesla like any manufacturer wants to limit warranty claims. When new hardware is released Tesla software locks it. After collecting data from the fleet performance upgrades can be sent out to unlock more performance. | 2020-11-21 00:17:01 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,145 |
New Model 3 owner - few questions | 1. I got a new dual motor long range model 3 about ~3 weeks ago which is suppose to come with More frequent over-the-air updates via cellular - however I am only able to download updates via wifi. Is this normal? 2. I paid extra for FSD which is suppose to include Summon: your parked car will come find you anywhere in a parking lot. Really. however in the app I can only move the car forward or backward. I am using the latest phone app and car software. Is this normal? | 2019-06-18 23:44:33 | 7 | Enhanced summon is not released yet it is only available for early adopters program | 2019-06-18 23:45:34 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 13,828 |
Get HW 3.0 installed right now | After reading a few articles where some journalist were able to get their car updated I decided to test my luck again. Previously I had called an inquired about getting the hardware updated on the same visit as another issue was getting fixed but was told I was pretty far down the list and would be close to a year. I live about 1.5 hours away from a Tesla location so I was a bit bummed. Anyways....I tried contacting them again. They immediately said they could get me in next week. So here I am today sitting in a local breakfast place while they rip my car apart and upgrade the internal goodness. All because I just periodically called up and asked. | 2019-11-27 16:25:49 | 91 | Forgot to mention Model S 2018 (Nov) | 2019-11-27 16:28:48 | 48 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 7,154 |
Would a Tesla be a good choice for me? | *EDIT: THANK YOU FOR ALL THE REPLIES! I have read each one but there are so many I can t comment on all of them. I have received a lot of advice and I understand my situation is not the best to purchase a car right now. You didn t just help me you have helped others who are in the same situation as me. Thank you again everyone! Hi everyone. I just drove my friends M3 LR all weekend and fell in love. I currently own a 2002 Toyota Avalon and want to drive it into the ground before buying a new car but I just want to know what you guys think before doing something. I live in an apartment which has no charging stations but there s a charging station a few miles away from me and a supercharging station a little bit further. I make around $46k year before taxes and could potentially make $62k year before taxes come august. I have ZERO debt. No college loans no credit card debt. I live in Southern California so there s that bill that got passed that in a few years all NEW cars will have to be electric. Knowing my car I probably have a few years left until it s done so it may be good timing. I have never bought a new car all my cars we hand-me-downs that I paid for but obviously never had to take out a loan or pay monthly payments on it. Would it be stupid to get a Tesla M3 LR as my next car with my current circumstances? In comparison I was looking at a new Honda Civic or Accord as my next car. Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks! | 2021-04-13 14:36:05 | 53 | You definitely shouldn t buy anything until you get that raise. | 2021-04-13 14:41:30 | 181 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,906 |
Finally getting some Supercharger expansion where the oldest exist (Ellensburg WA) | [This is so long overdue](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads supercharger-cle-elum-wa.135347 #post-3214198) & #x200B The current spot is right beside a Holiday Inn Express has only FIVE stalls. Most of the time 2-3 are not working and this is right next to a mountain pass the only major freeway pass crossing from the west (greater Seattle area) to the eastern part of the state. This will add 12 new Superchargers right by I-90 in Cle Elum I just hope it opens in time for the Thanksgiving rush | 2018-11-20 18:30:07 | 37 | Just stopped at the Ellinsburg charger around 8am this morning and saw the sign for the Cle Elum Supercharger opening up! Exciting! | 2018-11-21 00:34:00 | 4 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 6,610 |
Discussion: Why do you think the steering wheel design was changed with the Model S refresh? | Now that we have a closeup of the steering wheel (yoke or not) of the new Model S refresh I am wondering what others think about its design. I feel like they took a step back as far as its looks go. The original MS steering wheel is much more attractive. Side by side comparison: & #x200B [Photo cred: u\ FridayTheDog111 ](https: preview.redd.it eyd18i34qmo61.png?width=826& format=png& auto=webp& s=e1d95e5aec1ada7cc18d63b6260ea323683471c3) Do you think this new wheel could be just for the test units and a more thoughtful design will come with the release? Do you think old and new wheels will be interchangeable? | 2021-03-22 19:16:33 | 5 | People in this thread saying they prefer the new style are making me wonder if I m losing my mind. The old one actually looks *designed* with the inset metallic logo and that really cool Y-shape of the metallic trim connecting the middle of the wheel to the bottom. This new one looks like it came from a soviet car designed in the 1980 s. It s so drab and clunky looking and is almost totally devoid of interesting features. I get that aesthetics are subjective but sometimes I feel like this sub is unable to acknowledge a Tesla decision might be something short of Earth-shattering and visionary. This really seems like one of those times. | 2021-03-22 21:22:48 | 54 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,179 |
The Tesla model S configurator states the performance version offers Improved interior design . How is it different from the long range model S? | As the title states. I am unaware of any difference between the 2. Does anyone know? | 2020-05-13 10:19:27 | 40 | I believe the only difference is the interior option is switched to carbon fiber for Performance instead of wood for LR. | 2020-05-13 10:34:14 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,733 |
Model 3 rear wheel wells | I ve just recently finished my first detailing on my Model 3 and noticed that rear wheel wells are of a fabric material not like the plastic material used in the fronts. I m assuming the rear inserts were never installed as I m seeing 3 holes that the insert would presumably clip into. When you all get a chance can you check the rear wheel wells of your model 3 and confirm the type of material in there? I m hoping you can all verify my assumptions before I schedule a service visit. | 2018-07-29 15:56:26 | 5 | Fabric is used for its sound deadening qualities. | 2018-07-29 16:14:18 | 8 | Model Y Wheel Options | 12,330 |
Telsa VIN numbers reflect big Q3 | I believe this may have been reported back in the summer but I wanted to highlight the new chart of missed VIN numbers that Tesla owners are reporting. If you purchase a Tesla please follow the link and post your information to help the graph as much as possible. Anyways it looks like production may be leveling in the 675 per week range until another ramp in production. Edit: link http: www.teslamotors.com forum forums new-vin-thread-please-post-your-newly-assigned-vins-here?page=6 | 2013-10-03 16:53:20 | 15 | Where is the link? | 2013-10-03 17:18:56 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,268 |
Tesla Model 3 Pedestrian Warning System (PWS) noise maker is not bad! | I ordered my M3 at the beginning of August certain that I would get it within the 2 weeks timeframe posted on the Tesla website well in advance of the PWS system being required on at least 50% of Tesla s on September 1. Unfortunately my delivery was delayed by approximately 4 weeks which means my car was made in September 2019 and would have the PWS system installed. I honestly was NOT thrilled about the fact that my silent EV would now emit a noise at low speeds. But after taking delivery I must say I am quite happy about it! You can t hear the noise when in Drive with the windows up and only barely with the windows down but mostly the tire and wind noise drown it out. You can hear the reverse noise but it sounds pretty cool like a UFO. I actually like the noise because it works! I live in a community with many families with kids and it s great to back out of my garage knowing any kids nearby can hear the car. With my Model S I had to be extra vigilant and a few times stop the car roll down the window and ask the kids to move out of the way since they didn t even notice the car. I am also more confident when driving in a shopping center parking lot that some pedestrian won t emerge from between two cars and walk in front of me since they didn t hear me. This has happened many times in my Model S. No more worries now! And I must say again the reverse noise is pretty darn cool! | 2019-09-26 18:06:30 | 81 | I was driving down my street last week and there were kids riding bikes in the middle of the road. I was a little upset they wouldnt move out of the way for me so I honked my horn once. One kid looked back in surprise then fell off his bike the rest moved out of the way. I later realized that they probably didnt hear me. | 2019-09-26 18:20:46 | 40 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,103 |
[Speculations] Next-generation Roadster could be the fastest production car ever made. | 1. I think Tesla Motors still has something to prove. 2. With the new record(0-60 in 2.6s) Model S is the 6th fastest accelerating production car ever made. 3. The technology is here to make 2.00s flat. The car needs to be light. (mostly carbon fiber body?) 4. Other things i cant think about at 1am... 5. Profit! | 2015-10-30 05:15:44 | 12 | I think the correct term would be quickest. 2.00s would be a huge achievement. | 2015-10-30 11:16:16 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,215 |
Autopilot Jail | There are multiple ways to get in AP jail. One is to ignore the message to keep your hands on the wheel. This takes awhile and you have time to avoid it. The other one is instant. If you are on a 80mph highway and while overtaking you hit the accelerator and go above 90. It s instant freak out and AP jail. EDIT: Another way for instant AP jail is if driver takes off seatbelt while in AP. Like if you want to take your sweater off. Thanks to the user than reminded me. If anyone found other ways please share. I notice Tesla is using the interior camera to check if you are paying attention now. On my road trip if I m looking out the left and not in front it prompts me to take the wheel more often and require more torque. I have a feeling Tesla will be putting a lot of people in AP jail more frequently and with extending duration. | 2021-05-29 15:07:20 | 188 | Drive too fast? AP jail No pay attention? AP jail Pay too much attention? Believe it or not also AP jail | 2021-05-29 18:42:58 | 189 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 2,494 |
We re a company building a wireless charger for Tesla - Seeking Model 3 Console Measurements! | Hey we re the Nomad team. We re looking to build a wireless PHONE charger for the Model 3. We specialize in building innovative charging accessories and we think Tesla is the next place to go. We re offering vendor credit (and of course a wireless charger) to any Model 3 Owners (or Tesla employees...) who can provide measurements so that we can start production ASAP. Please PM if you can help! Adventure On! | 2017-10-24 16:59:47 | 61 | I thought you meant a wireless charger for the car itself. Gutted :( | 2017-10-24 20:26:49 | 47 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,331 |
Tesla Roadster [EU]: Founders €215.000 £185.000 NOK 2.001.000 base €172.000 £152.000 NOK 1.636.000 | https: www.tesla.com teslaroadster reserve | 2017-11-17 16:05:53 | 8 | > NOK 1.636.000 Other cars you can buy for the same price (with options so take this list with a grain of salt): > [Shelby GT350](https: www.finn.no car used ad.html?finnkode=108584130) > [Macan GTS](https: www.finn.no car used ad.html?finnkode=106828768) > [Levante (diesel)](https: www.finn.no car used ad.html?finnkode=101755804) > [G63 AMG (with 2 seats)](https: www.finn.no car used ad.html?finnkode=103064471) > [Panamera Hybrid](https: www.finn.no car used ad.html?finnkode=108692362) [There is a Porsche 918 for sale at $2.4m right now as well](https: www.finn.no car used ad.html?finnkode=108779623). That s 10x the price of a Roadster. McLarens Porsche Turbos Ferraris are all 1.5x or 2x as expensive. The new Roadster is in a league of it s own both in performance and pricing. Really says something about our tax system but I ll save that discussion for another time. | 2017-11-17 16:27:22 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,420 |
Wait list information | The more I look into financing my purchase of a Model S the more unrealistic it seems. Is there a place to look at wait list information? Also and just out of curiosity if I were to put the down payment today when might one ship? | 2013-07-29 17:08:17 | 8 | 4 to 8 weeks. I called about a test drive recently and asked what their wait was as well :P | 2013-07-29 17:21:04 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,161 |
85D vs. P85D | In the market to purchase a Tesla need a quick clarification from the experts. I am pricing out an 85D vs a P85D and the difference is approx. 21k ($300 month in payments). Other than the increased speed new seats and faster delivery does the P85D offer anything else different from the 85D? Thanks for the input can t wait to get the new car. | 2014-11-14 16:23:28 | 9 | 85D = groceries P85D = panties You make the choice. | 2014-11-14 20:18:08 | 24 | Tesla Model Comparison | 845 |
I Test Drove a Model Y Today - WOW | I test drove the Tesla Model Y today. I had never been in a Tesla previously. I was floored by this car. I m sold. Regenerative braking is interesting. I was trying to explain to friends my driving experience. So there is a master brake pedal but you don t use it much. If you ever played the old school RC cars where you pull the trigger and the car zooms off and you ease off on the trigger and the car slows that s exactly how the Tesla drives. You have a zoom pedal! And if you ease off on the zoom pedal you slow rather quickly and will come to a stop. The concept took me a few minutes because it s so foreign to how I learned to drive 30+ years ago. Very fun after you learn the perfect touch on the zoom pedal! Speaking of zoom. I was not prepared for just how fast this car is. I literally burst out laughing every time I hit the pedal because the sensation is just insane. So fun. Much to my SOs chagrin I hit the freeway with the intention of using Autopilot. I let the car drive itself for a couple of minutes. Perfectly navigated down I80 at 75mph. Felt solid. Lastly my SO and I came away with the same impression on fit and finish and overall build quality. After reading many horror stories over the years about Tesla s quality this car was flawless in and out. Very upscale feel inside. Quiet and comfortable. Really happy with the car in that respect as well. The TouchPad was very intuitive. I ordered a Red LR. Still undecided on FSD. I was happy with the performance of Auto Pilot. But I might change my mind before the price increase on June 1st. Amazing car! I took some photos and my friend has already customized my car for me. [Imgur](https: i.imgur.com rjsYARZ.jpg) | 2020-05-23 02:47:58 | 268 | That s fantastic to hear! I have my Y test drive scheduled for noon tomorrow. Absolutely excited! EDIT: For those interested it s at the Renton WA location | 2020-05-23 02:49:54 | 67 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,734 |
Model 3 Reservation $1000 can t be transferred to another purchase only refunded | Owner advisor just told me I can t apply my $1000 reservation for a Model 3 to a MS60. I can only refund it. Then use that credit card as part of the downpayment purchase. Is that correct? | 2016-06-20 21:01:44 | 11 | What difference does it make? It s a $1000 of a ~$70 000 purchase. If you have to blink you might want to rethink the whole purchase. | 2016-06-20 22:54:11 | 26 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 11,916 |
Model 3 Performance ahead of schedule | I just received word that my order is way ahead schedule. Here are the details Location: Oregon Reserved 3 31 16 Confirmed 7 26 18 Model 3 Dual Motor Performance Red multi coat White interior EAP 18 inch Aeros Original estimate was Sept-Nov. I was contacted by the IDA that delivery would be soon and that I should fill out a credit app if I wanted financing through Tesla. (Good for 30 days) I gave them my availability and it s looking like we re about two two weeks out. I am super excited. I know the tax credits won t last but right now this is one of the best performance deals on the market. A nicely optioned one is $70k. My tax credits and rebates should be $10k (federal + $2500 state for vehicles with base prices less than $50k). I happen to live in a high gas low electricity state. ($4+ premium and 8.5 cents per kwh) By my calculations I ll be spending close to $2k less per year on fuel. There s no other sedan in this price range that beats its performance. Here is my slight dilemma: I am leasing a BMW that is up in December. It s a great lease deal ($420 month for a $62k msrp vehicle)which means that it is underwater in terms of trade in value. Leases can t be transferred in the last 6 months per BMW. I was originally hoping for a later delivery to minimize paying for a lease I didn t need. Currently I don t have a super great place to park a third family car. I am thinking the best course right now might be to just turn in the lease early. Id be taking a hit but wouldn t risk missing out on the federal tax rebate. | 2018-08-10 15:54:22 | 14 | Turn it in early but wait until your 3 is sitting in your driveway. In case of last minute delays! | 2018-08-10 17:32:50 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,871 |
Model 3 visibility | I ve seen a lot of people comment about Model 3 having great (forward) visibility. I got to drive one the other day and I have to say that visibility was one of my favorite things about the drive experience but not how I expected. I haven t seen a reaction similar to mine expressed here yet so here it goes. Model 3 visibility isn t great in the way the Model X is great. Model X obviously has a very open feel to the cockpit allowed by the panoramic windshield. There s a vertical freedom that few other cars have. While Model 3 has an impressive glass roof the top of the windshield is in a fairly traditional place limiting that panorama feel. It s not visibility above that makes the model 3 great it s visibility below. This car has a commanding view of what s in front of you but instead of an open feeling of wonder (model X) it s more a feeling of purpose. I grew up loving driving games. The Model 3 feels like a video game. The reason is because you can see the hood out in front of you. Not just the flared fenders which feel a bit like a Cayman bit the flat hood between. This is a driving position that is very commanding. You can see the corners of the car very well and it makes you feel like you can point it anywhere. Part of the reason you can see the hood so well it s the driving position. You can sit high in this car and it s not a problem. The glass roof allows plenty of headroom to sit higher than normal and no binnacle means the wheel isn t obstructing your gauges when sitting up high something that for me at least had always been annoying enough to prevent me from raising the seat to see the corners of the car. The last thing that contributes to this feeling of forward visibility is the minimalism of the cabin. The flat dash is low and out of the way. The screen is accessible but it s in your peripheral enough that it melts away when you re not thinking about it. But what was most striking to me was how seamless the dash flows into the hood. For instance if there was no glass in the way you could take a hot wheels car and roll out across the dash right out onto the hood with little disruption. Most cars have over-designed contours tracked-on plastic bits defroster air vents protruding windshield wipers while at rest etc. The Model 3 has none of that. Just a smooth clear view from where you sit right out over the hood. It feels liberating and it s my favorite thing about this car. | 2018-01-04 23:37:45 | 72 | How is the view in back and blind spots? I drove a Prius a couple of times several years ago and felt like it had appalling rear visibility. Absolutely hated it. | 2018-01-05 00:02:47 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,415 |
Homelink activating too early. | My auto open homelink is activating a bit early and it won t work because of it. I tried resetting the location whike actually in the garage but it still trying to open in about the same place as when I set it in my driveway. Any tips or tricks to fix this? | 2017-06-10 19:34:04 | 12 | Rather than trying to fuss with Tesla s activation point I recommend modifying the garage-door motor s antenna. Many modern motors have a 10 wire tucked inside the motor cover. Sometimes just repositioning this wire so it dangles below the motor will fix the problem. You can buy a spool of 14 1 copper wire (some units use coax cable) and a wire joiner. Run the wire towards the driveway. You ll want to run a stretch of wire across the top of the door frame (anything to increase the area of wire as seen from where the Tesla triggers. You can experiment with the location that works best. There are a few how-to YouTube videos if you want to see how other people have done this. | 2017-06-10 21:48:24 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,967 |
Got up close with the semi after the shareholder meeting | Album: TeslaSemi [https: imgur.com a CZqgURf](https: imgur.com a CZqgURf) | 2018-06-06 03:17:32 | 33 | I was saying to someone at the meeting Isn t it funny that everyone is excited to see a semi truck? Everyone cheered and ran over when it pulled up. | 2018-06-06 03:26:06 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,340 |
New Tesla Podcast: The Tesla Show | New Tesla Podcast: The Tesla Show I ve just started a new Tesla focused podcast with my long time friend and our first episode is live and we wanted to share it with the community and get your feedback (apologies for the self-promotion we don t have sponsors and are doing it purely for the fun of talking about all things Tesla). We re calling it “The Tesla Show”. I ve been watching Tesla for years now and being in the technology industry have continued to gain more and more interest in them – from the vehicles themselves to the relentless integration of advanced technology to the business and of course the mercurial Elon Musk. I m a fan and subscriber of “Ride the Lightning” and “Talking Tesla” but always find myself wanting to jump in or add my own analysis go deeper on some of the metrics and really explore Tesla through the lens of the technology industry vs. the automotive industry. Plus I just love podcasts and wanted more Tesla analysis and discussion in podcast form :) Our plan is to cover a specific topic each week keep the episodes around 30 minutes and have serious analysis with a light-hearted twist. Our first episode is about the Model 3 launch our experience waiting in line and our impressions of the announcement and what it means. We will have episode 2 out shortly. I hope you give it a listen subscribe. Would love your feedback and show topic suggestions! iTunes Link - https: itunes.apple.com us podcast the-tesla-show id1103101874 Website - http: theteslashow.com | 2016-04-14 03:36:36 | 28 | i havent had the time to listen yet but i wanted to post a note of encouragement for your passion. always remember that whatever reaction people have to your podcast is less important than the fact that what you do is fun for u. | 2016-04-14 06:19:02 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,891 |
[Discussion] Selling the best car I ll ever drive. Won t afford insurance in Toronto. What depreciation should I expect on the 2018 Model 3 in Ontario? | So it seems that I ll be selling my car as I made my calculations and my savings would dwindle since I m moving closer to Toronto with its astronomical insurance costs. So till I rebuy next spring when I start a new job **what s the best way to sell it within a week in Ontario?** I posted an ad on autotrader.ca but I need it gone within a week. It s a Long range Black car Premium trim Enhanced Autopilot (with Summon Auto-lane switching...etc) and a RWD. It also has 48000km on it (it s such a beautiful drive couldn t resist using it). [Photos](https: imgur.com a nvuG0oq) I heard people here actually go to Tesla and get a good deal there. Should I just do that? | 2019-06-21 19:47:39 | 5 | Have you looked around for other insurance? | 2019-06-21 19:56:44 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,724 |
Will the constant upgrades to the Model S hinder the sales of the Model 3? | I for one admire Tesla as a company for their desire to constantly innovate and offer new options to a model that is in reality still in its infancy stage. However for those who are holding out for the Model 3 would you consider holding off on purchasing the generation 1 knowing that Tesla will probably offer more options maybe a year or so down the line? Personally I am planning on purchasing a Model 3 but I m having hesitations on placing an immediate deposit because I know Tesla will start to push out a Model 3 with more options shortly after the release. edit: Think more like holding out for the iPhone 3GS versus the iPhone 3G not holding out for the iPhone 6+ versus the iPhone 3G. | 2015-04-09 02:44:16 | 5 | There will always be better things in the future but if you sit around waiting for the best thing you ll never get anything. That said I d love to buy the model 3 and the model s as soon as I can afford it. | 2015-04-09 03:35:28 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,704 |
General maintenance cost? | I ve seen that Tesla is trying to bring down the price point for certain new models to be more affordable to the masses. How is the cost of general maintenance compared to normal vehicles and what more less do you have to do for an electric car specifically Teslas? Fun fact of the day: The dean of the school of Business at KU has a model S and every time I see it I wonder how the hell you open the doors. | 2015-07-19 01:44:32 | 9 | Zero maintenance just yearly (or 12.5k miles) inspection at $600 (or $1 900 for 4 years if you prepay). Cost covers pretty much everything except tires. As long as the key is on your person just walk up and the handles extend. When you walk away it automatically locks. Although there are lock unlock buttons on the key fob you don t really need to press them. | 2015-07-19 05:05:04 | 7 | Tesla Warranty Maintenance Insights | 7,137 |
Bluetooth calling doesn t work since 2018.48 | Ever since 2018.48 update (I m on 2018.50 now) bluetooth calling hasn t worked in my model 3. It just pops a couple times then stops working entirely. I ve tried resetting the MCU and deleting the car from the phone and the phone from the car. Nothing seems to fix it. Bluetooth audio works perfectly fine just calling doesn t work. I got a call this morning while I was driving to work but when it answered the screen crashed for a good minute or two. If anyone knows how to fix this I d be very grateful. :) | 2019-01-10 15:59:53 | 19 | Full 3 minute power down after deleting car from phone phone from car should fix. Also this should be in the daily thread. | 2019-01-10 16:30:14 | 5 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 2,964 |
Question about EV credit in House vs Senate tax bill | Admins please advise if this is the wrong sub. Since the house just passed their tax bill with the EV credit removed and the Senate draft is supposed to retain it assuming the Senate bill passes (with the EV credit intact) what happens to the EV credit? Stay or go? Thanks. | 2017-11-18 03:31:26 | 6 | If the Senate and House bill differ they go to a committee of select members of each body who draft a “reconciliation” bill. That bill is then voted on again by each house. A lot depends on what comes out of the committee because the pressure to vote on the reconciliation bill is huge. It is a “take it or leave it” moment. If you vote it down you get nothing so even if a Senator voted for a bill that keeps the credit they might be reluctant to vote against a reconciliation bill that drops it. The bills both cut a lot of things most Americans care about more than the EV credit so frankly I am not optimistic. The house bill in particular targets stereotypical “blue state” deductions and credits in almost every regard- they will not give one shit about the ev credit in committee. | 2017-11-18 11:51:15 | 3 | EV Tax Credit Information | 15,751 |
Tesla EV batteries are wired in groups of 74 cells in parallel so how are individual cells monitored? | How are individual cells monitored if they have 74 cells in parallel 6 in series per module? Can the BMS do anything about individual cells? And how will the 4680 cells be wired does anyone know? I hope this post won t get removed it s technical but doesn t break any rules and is as much about Tesla (the company) as any other question about the cars or battery products. Tesla is an energy company first and foremost. | 2021-04-03 21:09:15 | 38 | They aren t. The BMS only really cares about the parallel cells as a whole. No single cell can charge higher than the group as a whole and if a single cell shorts internally it will burn out that cells fuse and remove it from the parallel group. The only risk is discharging below that of the parallel group but that s less risk than overcharging. | 2021-04-03 21:22:20 | 49 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 18,913 |
Pre-Conditioning woes | Wondering if this is a bug or a poorly-thought out feature: When I pre-condition my Model 3 it uses the fan settings from the last time I was in the car. So if I get home at night and I had the fan at 1 and it s 95 degrees the next day turning on pre-conditioning does essentially nothing to cool down a 130-degree car. And of course there s no fan speed option in the app only temp settings. Ideally I d think pre-conditioning would blast the AC heat in the car until it s close to the desired temp then turn it down to whatever you had it at before or a level that will keep the interior the temperature you set. Am I missing something? | 2018-09-05 13:27:05 | 31 | My previous car a BMW i3 had an okay approach to this. When you told it to condition the car remotely it would raise or lower the temperature to 72 Degrees (Fahrenheit) using Auto. Then once you got in and turned the car on it would resume your settings from your last drive. Seems like the right answer is for Tesla to temporarily turn the fans on Auto to get it to desired temperature and switch to your preferred fan speed once you open the door. | 2018-09-05 13:45:52 | 28 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 15,476 |
EPA Filing for 2018 Model 3 shows slight efficiency bump | I found the EPA posting for the 2018 Model 3 Long Range earlier today. Screenshot here: https: twitter.com hoonable status 951826189756313600 This is what I could see when comparing it to the 2017 listing: -Only the Long Range model has an entry -Now rated for 130 MPGe vs 126 MPGe for 2017 -Consumption has improved by 1kWH per 100 miles -Luggage volume has decreased by 2 cubic feet -240V Charging is listed as 2 hours shorter -Both listed with 80A Dual Charger The EPA Listing for the Model S 75 also appeared today: https: twitter.com hoonable status 951825369451192320 | 2018-01-12 22:00:29 | 65 | The efficiency increase is due to the weight reduction from not using Alcantara. | 2018-01-12 22:19:50 | 154 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,772 |
So what s the status on Tesla s automatic charger? | The automatic charger: https: www.youtube.com watch?v=uMM0lRfX6YI It s been a while. Was it just a marketing trick was it seriously considered but had to be silently scrapped is it on hold until Tesla has got the luxury to offer more luxury or are Tesla timing the deploy of it when it is an absolute necessity (i.e. when autonomous parking becomes the norm)? | 2017-11-20 08:00:07 | 19 | Its only truly necessary once Teslas are driving fully autonomously. And there is no one inside to plug it in. | 2017-11-20 09:53:05 | 13 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 17,432 |
Why do Blink chargers cost so much? | I m looking at a couple blink locations and seeing $0.49 kwh for their member rate. That would cost $44 for a full tesla charge. More than a tank of gas. Why even use them? Am I missing something? | 2016-09-17 07:24:19 | 26 | One wonders if they re pricing based on the notion that they already know that people are willing to pay ~$40 for a fill-up so they might just as well charge it and make a premium. | 2016-09-17 09:00:57 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,429 |
Tesla 2022.12 | A new version 2022.12 has been seen in australia with : 1. Additional Bottom Bar customization 2. Disney+ 3. Child Lock 4. Additional Mobile App Controls 5. New Language Support *For now no more information about new features and also no proof* Source : https: twitter.com teslascope status 1511650259293794307?s=20& t=MnAjB19X8XCZSFql03ikEg | 2022-04-06 12:19:15 | 56 | Curious to see what Additional Bottom Bar customization actually means. Hoping it s not just adding another app slot and calling it a day. | 2022-04-06 16:20:50 | 35 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 18,344 |
Autopilot and “evasive maneuver”: myth or real | Occasionally there are people (sometimes even on this sub but mostly on Twitter and then picked up by yellow journalists like Electrek and Teslarati) claiming that autopilot “saved their life” by performing maneuvers that either totally avoided an accident or mitigated the damages. I m talking about people who claim the car totally performed movements outside of what AEB or simple autopilot breaking would do. Movements that include swerving into another lane to avoid a stopped object and then swerving right back in after passing the said object all supposedly in a matter of seconds. Now usually the more knowledgeable people on this sub point out that such actions simply cannot be performed by autopilot. I personally haven t had my FSD perform anything other than an AEB to avoid a collision. So that begs the question: *Can autopilot FSD perform evasive maneuvers?* There are some people who believe it genuinely can which is an extremely dangerous assumption since it promotes them to not spend as much attention to the road. We saw this fold out with the Apple engineer who died when his Model 3 crashed while on autopilot new reports hint that he was *likely* playing a mobile game on his phone at the time of the crash. So please share your knowledge experience on this issue. The more knowledgeable people are about their vehicle the more likely they are to effectively control it during unexpected events. | 2020-02-25 03:37:03 | 67 | I would call this an evasive maneuver but the viewer will be the judge. [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=SS10B51qAz0& t=29s](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=SS10B51qAz0& t=29s) | 2020-02-25 03:56:38 | 73 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 2,530 |
Lots of Tires and Lots of Allignments | My Model 3 has started being loud again and the wheel is vibrating a little bit. This is the second time this has happened in 30 000 miles. The first time this happened (at 15 000 miles) we removed the tires and the inside tread of the front tires was Completely worn down the outside was fine and at about half tread remaining. I had the alignment checked and all 4 tires were crazy out of alignment 1.5+ degrees out on both fronts. The alignment was repaired and I replaced the tires with new ones (different brand with a good warranty this time) Now 15 000 miles later the same thing happens. We pull the front tires off the inside is pretty well worn the outside is fine again. Have the alignment checked again and its out again only .3+ degrees this time. I may or may not replace the tire I caught it pretty quickly this time so there may still be some useful life until it starts vibrating too much for my taste. The service center says that it isn t uncommon to need to re-align the tires every 15.000 miles or so particularly in my state (lots of snow lots of potholes) also that Teslas are spec d for performance and they will always wear a little faster on the inside due to the spec d camber and finally that I should be expecting to replace my tires on a heavy performance car every Mid teens to mid twenty thousand miles My question to the group is... I ve never had to get any car I own re-aligned no matter how many years I drove it my tires in other cars have always lasted 30-40ishK miles and have always had even wear on them. Is my experience with my car(s) consistent with what the rest of you are experiencing? I have a cranky wife because my last car used the same set of wheels for 5 years and she tells me that replacing 4 expensive tires and a $120 alignment every year of ownership wasn t part of the cost equation of owning this car. | 2020-01-17 18:36:36 | 34 | Based on comments on every board I read I expect to replace tires 2x to 3x as often and plan to rotate tires every 10k miles. On the plus side - no engine transmission or radiator fluid changes no gas and many claim to have never changed their brakes. You didn t mention wheel size. 19” and 20” will wear faster and also be more prone to pothole damage. If your previous car was 16” 17” then it s not a fair comparison. | 2020-01-17 18:43:48 | 26 | Model Y Wheel Options | 11,138 |
Weekly Your Personal Experiences Thread! | Welcome r TeslaMotors! We re currently in the testing phases of a new weekly sticky thread. This thread is configured to post every Sunday (EST) at 6AM and comments will be **sorted by New**. Use this thread to comment your own personal experiences during the week. If it s a slow day visit the active thread at the time and participate :). This thread is specifically intended for **photos** of: * Deliveries and Orders * Vanity Plates * Vehicles Driving * Items you purchased or baked Because we receive many posts per week we re sticking to recurring weekly as opposed to bi-weekly so the thread can feel fresh. Please realize that this thread is in testing and incorporating a Rule 5. Also this auto-posting is new functionality for us so if there are any quirks just ignore them and simply [let the Mods know](http: www.reddit.com message compose?to=%2Fr%2Fteslamotors). We created this thread to ensure we still provide a medium that can allow enthusiastic fans and new owners to be excited with what they want to share while still allowing for further discussion or recognition. We want to ensure the community stays open-minded respectful and most of all friendly. Here s a direct [**Imgur Photo Upload**](http: imgur.com upload) to assist with sharing. Thanks and share away! -u 110110 | 2017-03-19 11:09:28 | 35 | Got the call last night...Picking up my 75D on Saturday...I really need to breathe. Deep breathes. Can t wait to join this community. | 2017-03-21 14:28:43 | 19 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 26,011 |
PSA If Cancelling Model 3 Reservation | I unfortunately had to cancel my Model 3 day one reservation just over a month ago. At that point I was given an option on how to have my money returned to me. The first option was a 10 - 14 business day wire transfer and the second option was in the mail with a 30-60 day wait. I chose the first option since I needed the money sooner as I purchased a different car. We are now a month and a few phone calls later they are telling me the wire transfer takes 45 days and they need to update that on their website. My friend on the other hand did not want to give his banking information and opted for the mailing of the cheque option. He received his money within 2 to 3 weeks. This may be specific to Canada but I thought some people who can t go through with their reservation should know this information. | 2018-08-22 17:36:06 | 89 | Wow that really sucks. Sorry to see you go. Especially for someone with day one reservation. Hope your new car treats you well. | 2018-08-22 17:41:26 | 45 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,716 |
How many of you are planning to reserve your Model 3 in March? | https: twitter.com elonmusk status 639172302530215936 Do we think it will be $5K to reserve similar to the Model X? | 2015-09-03 12:26:40 | 67 | Unless it looks like absolute garbage. I ll be reserving a model 3 | 2015-09-03 12:52:16 | 58 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 8,429 |
Definitive pricing for Model X | Is there a public (non-invite) resource that breaks down the pricing structure of the Model X? | 2015-12-22 15:50:13 | 8 | The Model X design studio isn t public yet but you can see a reservation holder playing around with it in [this video.](https: youtu.be Nk_Dw90Uhao) | 2015-12-22 15:54:14 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,917 |
Elon Bingo for Cyber Trunk event | Original credit: @model3owners Model Y event Bingo card. I took the bingo board that @model3owners made for the Y event and changed some of the spots to fit better for the truck event. Feel free to use or change to your own liking. Font isn t a perfect match. I don t have Photoshop installed to line it up perfectly as a match. What spots do you guys think I should have changed or missed for the upcoming event? [https: imgur.com a C2YceLR](https: imgur.com a C2YceLR) | 2019-11-21 22:13:09 | 130 | This whole sub has gone #cybertrucknutz | 2019-11-21 22:26:52 | 36 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,901 |
How fast does the stock UMC charge? | I m currently using my Leaf s J1772 evse and only pulling 16amps at 240v mainly because it was already there. It seems pretty slow at ~11 miles per hour. If I switch to the Tesla UMC instead how many miles per hour should I expect? I d test it myself but my Leaf s EVSE uses a different outlet size than the Tesla UMC. I just want to know if it would be worth spending the money replacing the outlet with a NEMA 14-50 and using the Tesla UMC. I m open to the idea of installing a high power wall connector as well if that s the best option. I don t have dual chargers but I ve considered getting the upgrade. I don t really need super fast charging but it would be nice to have a little faster than 11 miles hour. Thanks | 2016-08-12 06:51:12 | 11 | You will get 29 MPH is for a single charger using a UMC with a 14-50 plug and connected to a 40 Amp Circuit. The single charger has the ability to charge at 40 amps (newer S and X models can charge at 48 amps I think) Peace Father Bill | 2016-08-12 10:22:28 | 9 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 8,286 |
The Bloomberg tracker just updated to a new record: 𝟯 𝟱𝟲𝟲 cars week Tesla Model 3 production rate | [The Bloomberg Model 3 tracker just got updated](https: www.bloomberg.com graphics 2018-tesla-tracker ) to: #3 566 cars week ... which is the highest rate of Model 3 production so far - and it s also pretty impressive because it s before the planned end of May tooling upgrade: - At the end of May (starting on the 26th in 6 days) Tesla will be upgrading their Model 3 lines in the Fremont factory for a couple of days - their expectation is that the Fremont factory should be able to hit 5 000 cars week threshold after that. - Elon also mentioned it recently that the Gigafactory peak battery pack manufacturing rate was already *demonstrated* to be at 5 300 packs week. With 3 500 cars week and an initial average sales price of ~$50K it would adds 2.1 billion dollars to Tesla s quarterly revenue. 5 000 cars week would add 3 billion dollars per quarter. (exact revenue depending on the options mix) If the May upgrade goes well Tesla should be able to meet the overall sustained rate of 5 000 cars week benchmark. | 2018-05-20 12:02:35 | 170 | I hate this tracker since it s very slow to update and it shows different numbers to different people depending on region and what not. Tracker says 2900 for me. I get that it s very difficult to track these things but people are taking these numbers waaaaay too seriously | 2018-05-20 12:33:59 | 47 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,643 |
[Discussion] 2^nd Generation Model S Spitballing | *Excuse my title formatting. I thought I could superscript.* Being that there s been a large influx of real news lately I ve been thinking about what the future might hold for our beloved flagship. So let s forget about the current vehicle and begin to ponder: what additions and changes would you like to see in a proper second-generation Tesla Model S? Let s peg this around 2019-2020. (I searched the sub to see if this has been posted before and didn t find anything but if it has let me know so I m not posting redundantly.) Exterior: - Iteration on the company s design language and strengthening of the iconic design. Add a bit more distinctiveness. - Maybe some non-intrusive active aero like a pop-up spoiler or side channels around the wheels. - Better shielded and self-cleaning HW2 sensors. - Headlight (and potentially hood) heaters to guard against snow ice accumulation. - Rear wiper blade. - Diffused LED brake lights. - Amber turn signals. - Roof rack hardpoints for body color roof. - Power liftgate standard on US cars. Interior: - **Door pockets.** - An AUX cord. As nice and clean as wireless-only looks I d love to be able to just plug in. - (Flame me) nice metal knobs at the minimum for climate control. - Independently controlled rear climate. Pop some buttons back there. - Improved center console and cupholder ergonomics. - Better quick connection phone dock or wireless charging pad. - Optionally heated cooled cup holders up front. - Armrests in back designed so as not to compromise the center seat s comfort too much. - Optional executive seating for rear. - More adjustable seats. The Premium seats are some of the most comfortable I ve ever sat in but they d be *that* much better with a few more comfort settings. - Extenders on the ends of the sun shades. - Back-of-the-seat storage. All I can think of for now. What would you guys like to see in a Second-Gen S? *Edit:* Downvotes? If it s not interesting to you just skip it. Jeez. | 2017-01-09 23:31:43 | 42 | You put any more buttons on the dash and I ll come after you. The 2 there are 2 too many. I ve worked on plenty of human machine interfaces. Systems should be geared towards the user doing what they need to do without them needing to lose focus on task (driving) to do support tasks(radio climate) From my expert opinion knobs and buttons are the perfect solution to this the easier they are to use without diverting your eyes from the road the better. That being said you clutter this sexy thing with buttons and I ll find you and feed you every last one of those buttons backwards. | 2017-01-10 01:09:45 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,121 |
Drive unit went out currently back ordered Service center unsure when one will become available | I m not complaining just amazed that such an important part is back ordered and there is no estimation on delivery dates. I was under the impression that the drive units were getting more reliable. I have a CPO 2012 P85 so I have no idea if this is the first time the drive unit has gone out in this particular vehicle or if it has happened before. We have put about 15k miles on our Tesla since May and fortunately the drive unit replacement will be covered by our CPO warranty. | 2017-01-26 03:58:01 | 32 | Did they give you or offer a loaner rental? | 2017-01-26 04:26:27 | 17 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 5,656 |
Rant about Gilroy Supercharger station. | Yesterday evening stopped by the Gilroy supercharger and all 10 stalls where taken up and 3 cars were waiting. This is fine and doesn t bother me but what bothers me is 4 of the 10 weren t even charging and by the time my turn was up to charge those 4 cars still haven t moved. Couple issues here: 1) People should just charge to their next destination. 2) Charging from 80% to 100% takes twice as long as 0% to 80% that means these people were parked there for at least an hour. 3) Currently no way to enforce this. | 2016-10-25 01:06:19 | 26 | I can t wait for these cars to be self-driven away from the station. I m also hoping Tesla s credit system for charging puts a stop to people abusing the system. It s awful that a station like yours can be half full of cars that don t need it. | 2016-10-25 01:55:31 | 19 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 16,127 |
What are some of the little things about your Tesla that you love | I had a moment this morning driving to work when I realized just how much I appreciated the brakes on my Model 3! Anyone who has driven a hybrid previously knows that regenerative brakes can be a little squirrelly some times. I had a 2013 Ford C-Max Hybrid and every now and then the car just couldn t decide to use the regen motor or the friction brakes. This would result in the car bucking for lack of a better word and scaring the hell out of me thinking the brakes failed. Tesla saw this and tied the regenerative braking to the accelerator and it makes such a huge difference! I LOVE one pedal driving and the brake pedal works consistently when needed. It s a small change that solved one problem and created a whole new capability I didn t know I needed! It s amazing what smart engineering can accomplish! What are some other little things about your car that you love | 2019-09-23 23:00:35 | 74 | Brake hold while stopped. | 2019-09-23 23:12:33 | 114 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,481 |
Elon Musk Q& A with fans in Paris (29.01.2016) | Highly interesting video with some interesting Q& A. https: www.youtube.com watch?v=Pf0H_R91MAk | 2017-02-20 22:33:00 | 11 | Full autonomous driving with no human intervention likely within 2 years at most 3 years. | 2017-02-20 23:51:20 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,907 |
Ground clearance of Model 3P+ | Wanted to know this info before I bought the car (since I was considering the 3-) and had some feedback but I thought I d go a little further and measure the ground clearance at various points under the car. This is a UK Model 3P+ (with stock 20 wheels tires) but maybe it applies to the US or international versions and if not I m sure there s still some useful info here. **Notes on measurement error:** Note the imperfections in this test: My driveway is tarmaced and is not perfectly flat at the micro or macro level. I ll see if I can find somewhere better to sit the car and update the stats soon. Anyway the measurements could easily be off by 2-3mm as a result. Using any kind of ruler directly is obviously fraught with potential for error so I measured using a retractable pen (stiff but easy to adjust height on the fly) and then put the height obtained against a ruler for a reading. Without further ado here are the measurements I found: -------------------------------- **FRONT** In front of the front wheels there s two rubber flaps. I like these because they act as a warning before the hard plastic (or worse hard metal) is in contact with the ground. Ground clearances are as follows: Roughly in front of right front wheel (before the wheel meets the curb): 16.3cm < 6.4in> (about 12.3cm < 4.8in> with rubber flaps). Roughly in front of left front wheel (before the wheel meets the curb): 14.7cm < 5.8 in> (about 11.7cm < 4.6in> with rubber flaps). 4.6 inches is the absolute lowest point of the entire car that I measured but since it s just softish rubber it s more of a safety feature before you genuinely start to damage your car thankfully. Center (very) front lip of car 20cm < 7.9in> which gradually falls to around 13.1cm < 5.15in> as the front of the two front tires would meet the curb (measured between the two front tires). Behind front left wheel: 14.3cm < 5.6in> Behind front right wheel: 15.5cm < 6.1in> Front left lift point: 14cm < 5.5in> Front right lift point: 14.8cm < 5.8in> Front left [sway bar](https: i.imgur.com WMtHQ96.png) (shown in yellow dotted) near front left wheel: 13.4cm < 5.3in> Front right [sway bar](https: i.imgur.com WMtHQ96.png) (shown in yellow dotted) near front right wheel: 13cm < 5.1in> ----------------------- **BACK** The centre rear ground clearance measures a whopping 25.4cm (10in) but this gradually lowers down to 16.3cm < 6.4in> as both the rear wheels meet what would be a hypothetical curb. There s a hard plastic curved bit behind each of the rear wheels. Measuring at the lowest point of this part I measured 16.7cm < 6.6in> for the left rear and 16.1cm < 6.3in> for the right rear. Back left lift point: 14.5cm < 5.7in> Back right lift point: 13.3cm < 5.2in> In front of left rear wheel (hard plastic bit): 13.6cm < 5.4in> In front of right rear wheel (hard plastic bit): 12.2cm < 4.8in> ------------------- **OTHER:** The flat part of the entire battery pack itself sits about 1 to 1.5cm ABOVE the lift points EXCEPT the metal center lining (going from front to back) of the battery pack which is a little lower (I measured around 14.4cm < 5.7in> ground clearance). | 2019-10-04 20:02:32 | 38 | Yes | 2019-10-04 20:13:23 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,373 |
Tesla Powerwall2 Site Inspection on 3 27 in Kissimmee FL - Super Excited! | I placed my order when I purchased my car in November 2016 just today I received a call from Tesla to schedule a site inspection for 3 27. After that they will have a call with me to discuss the details and pricing. Initial estimates are $5500 for the Powerwall 2 and another $1500 for installation costs rep says that s all new to them so that may change. I am very excited and I can t wait hopefully it will integrate nicely with the 44 x 250w panels already in the roof and the Emphase micro-inverters. Edit: Just saw another post regarding this I guess it s finally getting deployed in the wild :) Supposedly the process won t take took long going forward. I guess I ll know more next week. | 2017-03-21 01:31:19 | 17 | Powerwall inspection today. Solar City(Tesla) rep was here for a little less than an hour. Took photos of the main panel the sub panel in the garage where the PV array is connected measurements of the surrounding walls distance between the panels and details on the PV array. Asked where we wanted the battery. We discussed three possible locations. He sent the info to Tesla with a phone. He said that when the engineers had a detailed plan for our system we would hear from them. One new bit of info. They will not install inside your house. Only outdoors or in a garage. He didn t know the reason for the restriction. I didn t ask about a basement as that word has no meaning here. | 2017-03-21 02:15:22 | 3 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 19,362 |
[Discussion] Loaded Model 3 or Loaded S75D?? | Okay so I am currently looking at making the plunge and purchasing a Tesla for myself. But I have reached an interesting price point comparison. If this has been asked before I m sorry. The (nearly) fully loaded Model 3 performance dual motor enhanced autopilot and full self driving comes to $77 000 total according to the Tesla site. (so not paying for premium interior) A Model S75D with enhanced autopilot and full self driving plus all the premium interior features (audio seats subzero) comes to $88 300. In your opinion if you own one or both or neither I m looking for a broad scope here is the $11k extra worth the S over the 3? I do not have any children but often drive adult friends. My daily driving is short enough that range is not a concern. I am not reasonably close enough to a supercharger to make it a frequent charging option so free supercharging is not a huge incentive (though it would be nice on roadtrips). I am financially secure with either choice but I am wondering if the cost difference is worth the difference in car. Lastly I wasn t sure if this question was more appropriate here or lounge so I tried both. If that is not the right thing then just let me know and I ll take the appropriate one down. Thanks for your time! | 2018-08-15 05:12:37 | 12 | As an owner of a current build 75D the car offers a number of benefits over the Model 3 but suffice it to say for you based on what you have laid out above it comes down to prestige. An S is a elegant and prestigious full size vehicle more comfortable for adult passengers with simply stunning design language. If that does not matter to you I would get a performance Model 3. If choosing an S I would opt for the unobstructed expansive glass roof and that also creates more headroom for your rear passengers as long as a roof rack is not needed. If you need a roof rack you want a sunroof. I personally heavily favor the look of the current S over any other Tesla vehicle and the practicality utility of a hatch a more comfortable car with more screen real estate seals the deal for me. As far as performance there is approximately half a second difference in favor of the Model 3 for standard acceleration measurements as 3.9 to 4.0 flat is about the best achievable on the larger S non-performance. Model 3 is running 3.2 3.3 at best so far it seems. Both are remarkably quick. There is approximately a 500lb weight difference between these two vehicles and while the 3 still is ahead on handling the S still handles better than most cars on the road far better than a car of its size should. With range not factoring into your decision this increases the value proposition of the S over the 3 as more of the money moves to aspects of cost you may value greater. I view the S as a total package car balancing prestige practicality and performance is a very satisfying package. If more than 2 3 of these elements are irrelevant then hands down the Model 3 is the better choice. I personally would still buy an Audi S7 over an S4 any day. This is fundamentally the same question. If supercharging is of no importance to you and the 3 is how you end up leaning I strongly think you should consider the non-performance dual motor 3. It is a much better value vs the P3D. Finally an S can be found in inventory as a never titled virtually new car with a few miles on it significantly closing this 11K gap and fully loaded versions seem to often carry higher discounts. You should look closely at this as there are some opportunities to score great deals at times. Take em for a spin. Both are amazing. Good luck. | 2018-08-15 05:52:30 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,527 |
[Official Discussion Thread] Elon Musk at the GPU Technology Conference with NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang [link to webcast inside] | Musk will be speaking about self-driving cars and deep learning with NVIDIA s CEO Jen-Hsun Huang **today at 12:00 ET (9:00 PT)** - **16:00 UTC**. You can watch the webcast live [here](http: blogs.nvidia.com blog 2015 03 16 live-gtc ). [A recording of the webcast.](http: www.ustream.tv recorded 60025825) Please keep the posts related to this talk in this thread. | 2015-03-17 12:18:08 | 46 | Fred for future please also include GMT UTC time. A lot of fans are not just in North America but also in Europe. ) Anyway UTC time is 16.00. | 2015-03-17 13:41:20 | 12 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 25,121 |
First long distance trip | I have 85 kWh Model S live in Des Moines IA and am traveling to Denver CO. Because there are no superchargers in Nebraska I have to go through Kansas. So I ll have to go an extra 160 miles :( Since this is my first venture do you guys have any tips before I hit the rode? | 2015-07-10 17:16:48 | 21 | Plan to reach destination at 10-15% battery left (or lower) for fastest traveling charging. I usually look at the range estimator and wait until it says 15% at destination because I speed a bunch and it eventually drops down to 7-10%. The sweet spot for driving speed vs. charging speed is 74mph according to analysis on TMC. Above that the time saved from speeding doesn t make up for the extra charging time. Range mode on of course. Seat warmers are more efficient to use than air heating. Don t sit behind trucks in an attempt to save some energy. It s not worth the savings or the risk of a rock popping up into your windshield car. In Denver there is a great African place close to the airport. Can t remember the name but I m sure you can find it online. Highly recommend it. Enjoy! | 2015-07-10 18:16:32 | 14 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 6,721 |
[Help] Can I borrow a 5-15 travel charger for Tesla Model 3 or a 14-30 to 14-50 converter for a couple of hours in Memphis TN? | Folks wife and I are on a road trip and made a stop at my cousins in Memphis TN. The Tesla has 15miles range and the nearest supercharger is 30 miles away. The closest destination chargers are 15 miles away. I forgot to pack the 5-15 plug for the travel charger :( My cousin does have a 14-30 outlet for a dryer but we don t have a 14-50 to 14-30 converter. Are any of you available in the area to help us out? | 2020-12-27 07:42:44 | 41 | do you have your j1772 adapter with you? look at plugshare.com and see if there s a closer one nearby | 2020-12-27 09:12:09 | 23 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 25,060 |
Model S retrofit and Infotainment upgrade - $0 | I received the notification a few weeks ago that it was time for my FSD computer retrofit. I wanted to get the infotainment upgrade as well. I followed the instructions and input the request in the app and I added on ALSO THE INFOTAINMENT UPGRADE . I got an invoice that said Correction: Infotainment upgrade Charge: $0 Then Correction: Infotainment upgrade from Tegra MCU and Autopilot 2.0 to Intel MCI and Autopilot 3.0 (Model S) 9874562-00-A MCU INTEL HW3 UPGRADE for tegraAP2.0 Cost: $0 & #x200B So my question: It looks like there s a mistake and they re not charging me for the infotainment upgrade does it look that way to anyone else? Secondly? Does this include the FSD computer? No other parts or work was listed on the invoice except a courtesy inspection. Total on the worksheet was $0 | 2020-06-29 19:09:19 | 9 | lol you and the previous poster should compare notes... https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments hi5xd1 5k_mcu2_upgrade | 2020-06-29 19:15:34 | 13 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 12,686 |
How does the ordering process work? | If I decide to order the MX I go to the site and presumedly at some point pay the deposit. Fast forward a number of months I believe I m contacted that my unit is about to be produced and then I pay the remainder right? If so is it possible to request to delay the unit as I may believe an physical upgrade correction will be forthcoming and want to get that later variant? Do I go to the back of the line? | 2015-09-18 02:25:04 | 7 | If I recall correctly there were options to specify the delivery date and you could continually push it out. I did this when I was monitoring inventory for a build that met my needs and target price so we kept pushing out the delivery date. However I believe that once production on your vehicle begins you re relatively locked into taking delivery once the vehicle is built and delivered to your service center. I would suggest you work with a local owner advisor to help keep an eye on your order to make sure he she helps you keep it on delay. | 2015-09-18 11:33:20 | 5 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 8,264 |
Have deliveries actually begun? | I know Elon delivered the first 25 cars but does this mean the hundreds (if not thousands) of Model S Plaids and LR we saw in drone flyovers have begun shipping out? I haven t seen a single Model S (Plaid or LR) owner post about their delivery since the 10th. I ve got a LR on order and hoping these things start to roll out since my delivery window went from 10-14 weeks to August to now saying nothing about delivery….. | 2021-06-15 11:57:48 | 56 | We ve seen some getting loaded on trucks so that s a start | 2021-06-15 15:26:25 | 42 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 7,693 |
Tesla Solar Roof offered me a complementary Power Wall. Anyone else with a pending order get this too? | I placed my order for a solar roof back in November of 2020 when I picked up a 90D MX and since then there s been a ridiculous price hike of nearly 40%. I just got an email from Tesla stating that they d like to offer me a Power Wall for not additional cost and my new agreement would be sent out in the next week with the new price tag. Keep in mind I already had a signed agreement around February and got all permits approved by my city in March. Just wondering if I m the only one. | 2021-04-24 01:13:49 | 155 | So they re now literally giving them away but here I am with panels already $20K in my pocket and they WON T FUCKING SELL ME ONE. | 2021-04-24 05:28:41 | 67 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 19,522 |
How is not making any noise? Elon talked about plans to produce *TWh* of cell capacit | When asked about the next battery event Elon talked about plans to go from current dozens of GWh to TWh (thousands of GWh) of capacity production. It means hundreds of Gigafactories. It was planned from the beginning to truly make a différence but it s so mind blowing to think that they want to really implement it. Going into mining business indeed makes sense... When will we see Boring Company digging ground for metals? | 2019-07-25 09:01:01 | 9 | Because Elon says a lot of things. | 2019-07-25 11:52:00 | 23 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 8,325 |
Feature Request Megathread | Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | 2023-03-14 13:00:12 | 35 | * Weather radar map overlay - Tie it to premium connectivity * Release the app store already * Allow me to pre-plan FSD Beta trips from a web interface * Actually let me do a lot of what the app does via a web interface. The app s nice and all but sometimes I went a bigger monitor that I can use a keyboard with. * Saved trips with waypoints. It s great that we can select a destination and add stops but it d be nice if we can pull that trip back up again if we accidentally clear it out or something. * To tie into the above allow us to either import ABRP trips into the car or use a web interface to do trip planning. * To tie into the above *update your trip planner* found here: https: www.tesla.com trips - this thing is trash and embarrassing. * Allow us to see Autopilot miles driven as a secondary odometer of sorts. * Allow Autopilot engagement state to be exposed via the API without the use of the Safety Score metrics. * Build a website which better explains to service menus that the car has and what their purpose is for so that folks who want to DIY repair maintain their car can make sure we re not shooting ourselves in the foot. * Build better documentation around how FSD Beta works explaining what the various things in the visualization mean. * To tie into the above explain what expectations are regarding testing so that we can ensure we re providing good data for use. * If the vehicle s speed is 0mph let us send a sound through the boombox speaker or at least don t reset the settings when the vehicle goes into park requiring us to set it each time the vehicle goes back into park. | 2023-03-14 13:24:30 | 43 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,926 |
Model 3 moves into the 6th place all time sold BEV in Norway - passing the Model X for all time sales in just 7 months | Less than a month ago (24 days) the [Model 3 passed the Zoe](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments cxhxdf model_3_passes_the_zoe_to_become_the_7th_most ) to hit #7 all time sales champ this [month it unseats](https: elbilstatistikk.no ?sort=4) it s bigger brother the Model X. The Model 3 has only been sold in Norway for just over 7 months now but will have a longer stint in $6 before passing up to #5 past the Kia Soul. & #x200B The Model 3 already has sold just shy of 1 500 in September alone far and away the largest seller in Norway for the month outselling the next closest BEV (the Leaf) by a 3:1 margin. & #x200B & #x200B |Make and Model|Sold in Sept 2019|Sold in all of 2019| |:-|:-|:-| |Tesla Modal 3|1 427|12 945| |Nissan Leaf|491|6 219| |Volkswagen eGolf|408|7 616| |Audi Etron|317|3 641| & #x200B Should this pace continue we should see the Model 3 bumping the Soul out of 5th by year s end. | 2019-09-23 15:24:01 | 80 | Not surprising considering it costs half of what the Model X does but still great to see nonetheless. | 2019-09-23 16:58:58 | 11 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 12,265 |
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