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dwdswp | [Suggestion] - (Make forward reverse options selectable for new HOLD mode) | Really wondering if I m the only one who finds this awkward or not. I love the new HOLD mode for regen and stopping 99% of the time while I m out driving around etc. Going forward it makes all the sense in the world but in reverse it s really very strange and kind of feels awkward. For example when I back out of my slightly-sloped driveway it s actually kind of weird. It seems like the normal feel is for you to hit the accelerator get moving and then coast down the driveway in reverse. But now I have to keep pressing the pedal while I go down the decline of the driveway or my car will stop in the middle of the driveway even tho it s a downhill slope from the garage... I mean I ve only had HOLD mode for a few days now and it took virtually no time to get used to... Except for this case and in reverse in general... It s just strange for the car to stop as soon as I let up off the accelerator while in reverse. Am I alone in this and will just have to get used to it? Or are there other people that find this kind of awkward as well? If it s just me I ll shut up go away and learn to get used to it... :-P But if it s not maybe it would be great to have a selector when you choose the HOLD mode that allows you to choose whether you set it to ON for forward reverse or both. (I literally CANNOT imagine someone using it for JUST reverse but the world is a strange place) :-P | Denebius2000 | 2019-11-14 18:41:33 | 54 | f7ihku1 | Reversing is feeling very weird to me now too using hold mode primarily. Came from using creep. | t0mmyr | 2019-11-14 19:27:28 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dwdswp | [Suggestion] - (Make forward reverse options selectable for new HOLD mode) | Really wondering if I m the only one who finds this awkward or not. I love the new HOLD mode for regen and stopping 99% of the time while I m out driving around etc. Going forward it makes all the sense in the world but in reverse it s really very strange and kind of feels awkward. For example when I back out of my slightly-sloped driveway it s actually kind of weird. It seems like the normal feel is for you to hit the accelerator get moving and then coast down the driveway in reverse. But now I have to keep pressing the pedal while I go down the decline of the driveway or my car will stop in the middle of the driveway even tho it s a downhill slope from the garage... I mean I ve only had HOLD mode for a few days now and it took virtually no time to get used to... Except for this case and in reverse in general... It s just strange for the car to stop as soon as I let up off the accelerator while in reverse. Am I alone in this and will just have to get used to it? Or are there other people that find this kind of awkward as well? If it s just me I ll shut up go away and learn to get used to it... :-P But if it s not maybe it would be great to have a selector when you choose the HOLD mode that allows you to choose whether you set it to ON for forward reverse or both. (I literally CANNOT imagine someone using it for JUST reverse but the world is a strange place) :-P | Denebius2000 | 2019-11-14 18:41:33 | 54 | f7ix02l | My wife and I both complain about it in reverse -- it s amazing going forward! & #x200B I wish I could turn it off while reversing that would be a great feature. | transitionb | 2019-11-14 21:28:45 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9u4d7c | [Suggestion] More Owner Update Information & Control | Waiting for 42.2or3or4 (still hasn t arrived) has me thinking about ways Tesla could improve their owner experience regarding the update process. As it stands now it s basically “connect to WiFi and hope for the best”. Which in my case inevitably leads to me assuming something is screwed up in my WiFi network when the update doesn t come through and I obsessively check everything I can. With this in mind I suggest the following: * Notifications when your vehicle is actually eligible for the latest update since they roll out updates exponentially and not all cars are eligible at the same time (useful for those that don t have constant access to WiFi) * Some indication once you re connected to WiFi that the car has made contact with Tesla servers (a green check mark or something). Also a way to check connection speed between the car and Tesla s servers via your chosen WiFi network. * Indication in the car of what needs to be updated (software maps etc) download status of said items (0-100% download bar would be awesome) and possibly indication of download speed. I added this to the idea suggestions mega thread but I felt this might warrant some community feedback and hopefully with enough honing & suggestions someone within Tesla (Hai Elon) might see it and take action on it. | whoindahouse | 2018-11-04 15:53:58 | 18 | e91kots | At Tesla.com updates they should have: * a place to check latest available firmware version * a place to check latest map version * a notification that tells you if your versions are updated to date if you re logged in * an option to request an update be sent to your car(s) at a certain time (which will only push if your car is on wifi) | tesrella | 2018-11-04 17:46:44 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aev87f | [Suggestion] Tesla App should have an option to notify you if your car is unplugged | It hasn t happened often but I sometimes am bombarded with dad duties when I get home and forget to plug in my car. Luckily I can make it to work two days in a row to work without charging so it isn t a huge deal but it would be nice if there was a notification option on the app where you could set a time that it would notify you if your car was unplugged. For instance I d set mine to 9:30 PM or so every night and if the car is unplugged I d get a notification warning on my phone stating so. This would be a nice reminder to plug my car in. Current notification options are only Charging Started Charging Interrupted and Charging Complete . | whyamihereonreddit | 2019-01-11 13:11:23 | 93 | edt2qa8 | I have a Chevy Volt (soon to be Model 3 owner) and the myChevy app has this feature. You can specify how (email and or text) and when you want to be notified IF the car is not plugged in at the chosen time. It s come in handy many times when my wife or I forget. | desertsilver503 | 2019-01-11 14:20:40 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aev87f | [Suggestion] Tesla App should have an option to notify you if your car is unplugged | It hasn t happened often but I sometimes am bombarded with dad duties when I get home and forget to plug in my car. Luckily I can make it to work two days in a row to work without charging so it isn t a huge deal but it would be nice if there was a notification option on the app where you could set a time that it would notify you if your car was unplugged. For instance I d set mine to 9:30 PM or so every night and if the car is unplugged I d get a notification warning on my phone stating so. This would be a nice reminder to plug my car in. Current notification options are only Charging Started Charging Interrupted and Charging Complete . | whyamihereonreddit | 2019-01-11 13:11:23 | 93 | edsy5ql | TeslaFi can do this if you haven t looked into it but yes I agree this should be supported natively. | Kidd_Funkadelic | 2019-01-11 13:30:36 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aev87f | [Suggestion] Tesla App should have an option to notify you if your car is unplugged | It hasn t happened often but I sometimes am bombarded with dad duties when I get home and forget to plug in my car. Luckily I can make it to work two days in a row to work without charging so it isn t a huge deal but it would be nice if there was a notification option on the app where you could set a time that it would notify you if your car was unplugged. For instance I d set mine to 9:30 PM or so every night and if the car is unplugged I d get a notification warning on my phone stating so. This would be a nice reminder to plug my car in. Current notification options are only Charging Started Charging Interrupted and Charging Complete . | whyamihereonreddit | 2019-01-11 13:11:23 | 93 | edt5u5q | You ll get used to plugging in your car pretty quickly forgetting is just another part of the acclimation experience. Before long you ll be so used to your plug-in that you ll leave ICE vehicles running when you get out! | BahktoshRedclaw | 2019-01-11 14:49:45 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dbk05o | [Suggestion] Tesla s navigation should better estimate how HVAC (heat) impacts range | It s starting to get cold again and I m thinking about the inconveniences of cold climate driving (having initially gotten my model 3 just over a year ago). The only time I felt any range anxiety was during road trips last winter. I wish Tesla s navigation would better estimate how HVAC use impacts the range. Specifically the heat the AC doesn t seem to hurt the range nearly as badly. It s frustrating and stressful to be driving any reasonably long distance and have the navigation initially estimate you ll reach your destination with like 23% battery remaining and after an hour of driving it s dropped all the way to 6%. You have no idea how much further it s going to keep dropping and it can significantly change your travel plans. Tesla must have some idea how (in)efficient the heater is. They could just calculate the effect based on the current exterior temperature and interior climate control setting. This would alleviate any range anxiety and could allow for better planning of charging stops and range. I know a workaround is to turn off the HVAC and turn on the seat heaters. Yeah that sort of works for me personally but it can still get very cold and it s hard to force upon other people. I can t imagine my buddy telling his wife and young daughter that. (Side note: Bonus points for tesla if they would update the range live between HVAC on and off so you could make a decision if it was worth it to deal with the cold just using the seat heater.) Anyway thoughts? **tl dr:** Tesla s navigation should better estimate how HVAC impacts range using the exterior temperature and interior climate control settings. Cold climate range anxiety is real this would significantly help alleviate it. | EvanVanVan | 2019-09-30 23:07:32 | 164 | f22emuu | I m not sure if you ve tried ABRP but I ve relied on it heavily through multiple New England winters and it was much closer than the onboard nav at estimating consumption. Give it a shot and see how it works for you? https: abetterrouteplanner.com | bemental_ | 2019-09-30 23:51:47 | 12 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
dbk05o | [Suggestion] Tesla s navigation should better estimate how HVAC (heat) impacts range | It s starting to get cold again and I m thinking about the inconveniences of cold climate driving (having initially gotten my model 3 just over a year ago). The only time I felt any range anxiety was during road trips last winter. I wish Tesla s navigation would better estimate how HVAC use impacts the range. Specifically the heat the AC doesn t seem to hurt the range nearly as badly. It s frustrating and stressful to be driving any reasonably long distance and have the navigation initially estimate you ll reach your destination with like 23% battery remaining and after an hour of driving it s dropped all the way to 6%. You have no idea how much further it s going to keep dropping and it can significantly change your travel plans. Tesla must have some idea how (in)efficient the heater is. They could just calculate the effect based on the current exterior temperature and interior climate control setting. This would alleviate any range anxiety and could allow for better planning of charging stops and range. I know a workaround is to turn off the HVAC and turn on the seat heaters. Yeah that sort of works for me personally but it can still get very cold and it s hard to force upon other people. I can t imagine my buddy telling his wife and young daughter that. (Side note: Bonus points for tesla if they would update the range live between HVAC on and off so you could make a decision if it was worth it to deal with the cold just using the seat heater.) Anyway thoughts? **tl dr:** Tesla s navigation should better estimate how HVAC impacts range using the exterior temperature and interior climate control settings. Cold climate range anxiety is real this would significantly help alleviate it. | EvanVanVan | 2019-09-30 23:07:32 | 164 | f22nehf | California cars man. They just somehow never thought of using anything any kind of algorithm for energy consumption based on television. | DiachronicShear | 2019-10-01 01:14:49 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
a8yvd4 | [Suggestion] Tesla should use navigation data to route you away from superchargers that have a high level of inbound traffic. | I m sure many of us are on road trips this week. If you re like me your Tesla navigation may have routed you to a completely full supercharger. I watched this supercharger for two hours as I approached and it remained full the entire time. Luckily I was paying attention and decided to stop 40 miles earlier at a supercharger that was nearly completely empty. I m sure most Tesla owners aren t paying attention to this and are just driving where the car tells them to. Tesla should be able to anticipate supercharger usage using navigation data from the fleet. For example once your car routes you to a supercharger it should send the ETA to Tesla. If the station is busy and there are a large number of inbound cars the navigation should give you a warning that there may be a wait and offer you alternative options. It seems this would better spread out supercharger usage. | DrLegoHair | 2018-12-23 22:08:12 | 89 | ecfazbz | This is particularly relevant to larger batteries where charging longer at the previous SC could enable you to skip a crowded one. | archbish99 | 2018-12-23 23:58:58 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
vbo5ay | [Suggestion] Why is there no three time toggle on the % miles battery symbol which leads to a combine showing of both on the third tap (e.g. 68 miles 18%)? | So you have the option at least to get a combine look on both at the same time… | avat0r | 2022-06-13 22:21:20 | 15 | ic9uef0 | Probably because it just provokes pants shitting and hand wringing. Just put it on percentage and live your life. The navigation will tell you what your battery percentage will be in the future at your destination like it s an oracle. | JBStroodle | 2022-06-14 00:56:08 | 11 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
vbo5ay | [Suggestion] Why is there no three time toggle on the % miles battery symbol which leads to a combine showing of both on the third tap (e.g. 68 miles 18%)? | So you have the option at least to get a combine look on both at the same time… | avat0r | 2022-06-13 22:21:20 | 15 | ic9jxvn | I was just wondering this the other day. | clockwork2004 | 2022-06-13 23:30:49 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
vbo5ay | [Suggestion] Why is there no three time toggle on the % miles battery symbol which leads to a combine showing of both on the third tap (e.g. 68 miles 18%)? | So you have the option at least to get a combine look on both at the same time… | avat0r | 2022-06-13 22:21:20 | 15 | ic9mym0 | Tweet to Elon see if it sticks | AintNobodyGotTimeDat | 2022-06-13 23:55:00 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
bsir72 | [TM3] wipers since last update | Has anyone else noticed that the wiper sensitivity is much better since the last update? It was quite frustrating before now seems just about right. Before was way too slow to respond to the different levels of rain and I would get a lot of water buildup on the windshield making it a safety hazard. I d have to use the manual button all the time. Now I don t have to do that. Version 9.0 (2019.12.1.2 5c87371) | seculahum | 2019-05-24 16:08:38 | 37 | eonmrj3 | Massive storm came through yesterday I definitely see a diff in 2019.16.2. | 110110 | 2019-05-24 16:46:39 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bsir72 | [TM3] wipers since last update | Has anyone else noticed that the wiper sensitivity is much better since the last update? It was quite frustrating before now seems just about right. Before was way too slow to respond to the different levels of rain and I would get a lot of water buildup on the windshield making it a safety hazard. I d have to use the manual button all the time. Now I don t have to do that. Version 9.0 (2019.12.1.2 5c87371) | seculahum | 2019-05-24 16:08:38 | 37 | eonp1qp | Cautiously optimistic my wipers came on today just as I was noticing the mist and continued to function well. Note that I thought they totally sucked before for driving in Portland so this is a 180. Hope it wasn t a one off. Fingers crossed. | Drippy-G | 2019-05-24 17:13:37 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bsir72 | [TM3] wipers since last update | Has anyone else noticed that the wiper sensitivity is much better since the last update? It was quite frustrating before now seems just about right. Before was way too slow to respond to the different levels of rain and I would get a lot of water buildup on the windshield making it a safety hazard. I d have to use the manual button all the time. Now I don t have to do that. Version 9.0 (2019.12.1.2 5c87371) | seculahum | 2019-05-24 16:08:38 | 37 | eonntcz | Yeah I m on this build and honestly sometimes it s too sensitive wiping quickly when it s only a drizzle. Ultimately an improvement overall and definitely noticeable for me too. | epheterson | 2019-05-24 16:59:00 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bsir72 | [TM3] wipers since last update | Has anyone else noticed that the wiper sensitivity is much better since the last update? It was quite frustrating before now seems just about right. Before was way too slow to respond to the different levels of rain and I would get a lot of water buildup on the windshield making it a safety hazard. I d have to use the manual button all the time. Now I don t have to do that. Version 9.0 (2019.12.1.2 5c87371) | seculahum | 2019-05-24 16:08:38 | 37 | eonspyh | In version 2019.12? No absolutely not. I thought so at first and then I drove in the rain and night. I haven t had the opportunity to test 2019.16 yet but I m sure the weather will provide. | drdabbles | 2019-05-24 17:56:51 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
c36jcd | [Tall Guy Experience] Was excited to get into a Model 3 today & purchase at my local showroom but was disappointed for one reason only | the Roofline. Alright 6 5 here So the model 3 in itself is a beautiful car inside and out watched tons of videos trimmed it up online super stoked ready to buy but I decided to take a look at it in person at a local showroom today. As someone that is coming from a tiny Scion FR-S I didn t even think height would ever be an issue in the 3 truthfully didn t cross my mind and went there to really make sure I was choosing the right model for me. As I approached the car and got inside I was relieved to fit snug but comfy just like my FR-S but immediately noticed a big red flag as I looked towards the windshield: the Roofline. Oh the roof line was right in my field of view which made me feel claustrophobic and frankly feel taller than i was. I asked the tesla sales guy if I had put the seat as far down as I could and he said yes thats all the way so I immediately realized this car wasn t for me. You may ask But you drove an FR-S this car is bigger why did you have that problem. It was the seats! In my fr-s they are extremely low to the ground as its a low center of gravity sports car so my field of view out the windshield was perfect but because of the tesla battery pack the seats sat MUCH higher than anticipated and 1 3 of my field of vision was roofline visor. Just a heads up for anyone that has a tall torso is in the taller club: Go check it out before you buy online if there is a local showroom. HUGE Silver lining in this is that Im glad I did go because I immediately fell in love with the X when I entered the drivers seat. Wen t online after the showroom to check the used inventory and opted to bite the bullet on the higher cost and get a certified used one instead of the 3. What roofline?! | digitalcolour | 2019-06-21 05:18:24 | 85 | erp1tuf | 6 5 285lbs here and no issues 🤔 | Jamesthepikapp | 2019-06-21 05:49:18 | 16 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
c36jcd | [Tall Guy Experience] Was excited to get into a Model 3 today & purchase at my local showroom but was disappointed for one reason only | the Roofline. Alright 6 5 here So the model 3 in itself is a beautiful car inside and out watched tons of videos trimmed it up online super stoked ready to buy but I decided to take a look at it in person at a local showroom today. As someone that is coming from a tiny Scion FR-S I didn t even think height would ever be an issue in the 3 truthfully didn t cross my mind and went there to really make sure I was choosing the right model for me. As I approached the car and got inside I was relieved to fit snug but comfy just like my FR-S but immediately noticed a big red flag as I looked towards the windshield: the Roofline. Oh the roof line was right in my field of view which made me feel claustrophobic and frankly feel taller than i was. I asked the tesla sales guy if I had put the seat as far down as I could and he said yes thats all the way so I immediately realized this car wasn t for me. You may ask But you drove an FR-S this car is bigger why did you have that problem. It was the seats! In my fr-s they are extremely low to the ground as its a low center of gravity sports car so my field of view out the windshield was perfect but because of the tesla battery pack the seats sat MUCH higher than anticipated and 1 3 of my field of vision was roofline visor. Just a heads up for anyone that has a tall torso is in the taller club: Go check it out before you buy online if there is a local showroom. HUGE Silver lining in this is that Im glad I did go because I immediately fell in love with the X when I entered the drivers seat. Wen t online after the showroom to check the used inventory and opted to bite the bullet on the higher cost and get a certified used one instead of the 3. What roofline?! | digitalcolour | 2019-06-21 05:18:24 | 85 | erp0jp6 | I know what you mean. I m not a tall guy but when I picked up the car the seat was fairly high and the roof line bugged the heck out of me. Lowered the seat and it immediately felt better. It s unfortunate it doesn t work out for you but you should fit in the Model Y much better. | packet_whisperer | 2019-06-21 05:26:10 | 9 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
c36jcd | [Tall Guy Experience] Was excited to get into a Model 3 today & purchase at my local showroom but was disappointed for one reason only | the Roofline. Alright 6 5 here So the model 3 in itself is a beautiful car inside and out watched tons of videos trimmed it up online super stoked ready to buy but I decided to take a look at it in person at a local showroom today. As someone that is coming from a tiny Scion FR-S I didn t even think height would ever be an issue in the 3 truthfully didn t cross my mind and went there to really make sure I was choosing the right model for me. As I approached the car and got inside I was relieved to fit snug but comfy just like my FR-S but immediately noticed a big red flag as I looked towards the windshield: the Roofline. Oh the roof line was right in my field of view which made me feel claustrophobic and frankly feel taller than i was. I asked the tesla sales guy if I had put the seat as far down as I could and he said yes thats all the way so I immediately realized this car wasn t for me. You may ask But you drove an FR-S this car is bigger why did you have that problem. It was the seats! In my fr-s they are extremely low to the ground as its a low center of gravity sports car so my field of view out the windshield was perfect but because of the tesla battery pack the seats sat MUCH higher than anticipated and 1 3 of my field of vision was roofline visor. Just a heads up for anyone that has a tall torso is in the taller club: Go check it out before you buy online if there is a local showroom. HUGE Silver lining in this is that Im glad I did go because I immediately fell in love with the X when I entered the drivers seat. Wen t online after the showroom to check the used inventory and opted to bite the bullet on the higher cost and get a certified used one instead of the 3. What roofline?! | digitalcolour | 2019-06-21 05:18:24 | 85 | erp1zyy | Well damn walking out with the X instead is awesome! Post some pics when you get it! | chrgrsrt8 | 2019-06-21 05:52:29 | 6 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
c36jcd | [Tall Guy Experience] Was excited to get into a Model 3 today & purchase at my local showroom but was disappointed for one reason only | the Roofline. Alright 6 5 here So the model 3 in itself is a beautiful car inside and out watched tons of videos trimmed it up online super stoked ready to buy but I decided to take a look at it in person at a local showroom today. As someone that is coming from a tiny Scion FR-S I didn t even think height would ever be an issue in the 3 truthfully didn t cross my mind and went there to really make sure I was choosing the right model for me. As I approached the car and got inside I was relieved to fit snug but comfy just like my FR-S but immediately noticed a big red flag as I looked towards the windshield: the Roofline. Oh the roof line was right in my field of view which made me feel claustrophobic and frankly feel taller than i was. I asked the tesla sales guy if I had put the seat as far down as I could and he said yes thats all the way so I immediately realized this car wasn t for me. You may ask But you drove an FR-S this car is bigger why did you have that problem. It was the seats! In my fr-s they are extremely low to the ground as its a low center of gravity sports car so my field of view out the windshield was perfect but because of the tesla battery pack the seats sat MUCH higher than anticipated and 1 3 of my field of vision was roofline visor. Just a heads up for anyone that has a tall torso is in the taller club: Go check it out before you buy online if there is a local showroom. HUGE Silver lining in this is that Im glad I did go because I immediately fell in love with the X when I entered the drivers seat. Wen t online after the showroom to check the used inventory and opted to bite the bullet on the higher cost and get a certified used one instead of the 3. What roofline?! | digitalcolour | 2019-06-21 05:18:24 | 85 | erpaf3k | When I first sat in a 3 I was kinda at odds as to why I didn t fit. I m only 5 10 so I booked my test drive for the next day and they told me on the showroom the seats don t go all the way down and the steering wheel didn t go all the way up. But once I was in the test-drive it was all good I fit. Can t back home waited and bought it. Hopefully that was the issue but you got an X so congratulations on that | kewvention | 2019-06-21 09:05:30 | 6 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
c36jcd | [Tall Guy Experience] Was excited to get into a Model 3 today & purchase at my local showroom but was disappointed for one reason only | the Roofline. Alright 6 5 here So the model 3 in itself is a beautiful car inside and out watched tons of videos trimmed it up online super stoked ready to buy but I decided to take a look at it in person at a local showroom today. As someone that is coming from a tiny Scion FR-S I didn t even think height would ever be an issue in the 3 truthfully didn t cross my mind and went there to really make sure I was choosing the right model for me. As I approached the car and got inside I was relieved to fit snug but comfy just like my FR-S but immediately noticed a big red flag as I looked towards the windshield: the Roofline. Oh the roof line was right in my field of view which made me feel claustrophobic and frankly feel taller than i was. I asked the tesla sales guy if I had put the seat as far down as I could and he said yes thats all the way so I immediately realized this car wasn t for me. You may ask But you drove an FR-S this car is bigger why did you have that problem. It was the seats! In my fr-s they are extremely low to the ground as its a low center of gravity sports car so my field of view out the windshield was perfect but because of the tesla battery pack the seats sat MUCH higher than anticipated and 1 3 of my field of vision was roofline visor. Just a heads up for anyone that has a tall torso is in the taller club: Go check it out before you buy online if there is a local showroom. HUGE Silver lining in this is that Im glad I did go because I immediately fell in love with the X when I entered the drivers seat. Wen t online after the showroom to check the used inventory and opted to bite the bullet on the higher cost and get a certified used one instead of the 3. What roofline?! | digitalcolour | 2019-06-21 05:18:24 | 85 | erpe9fv | My boyfriend is 6 6 270lb and is mildly uncomfortable driving my Model 3 but my boss who is 6 8 and 350lb doesn t even come close to fitting and it s the same for the S and X and he s a sad panda because he wants a Tesla. | SuddenOutlandishness | 2019-06-21 10:40:58 | 6 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
ou2f6k | [Tesla Store] Ordered a Tesla Wall charger and received two charging units. Anyone have a similar experience? | Hey All & #x200B Ordered a Tesla charger from the store and they sent two units ([https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ](https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ)). I have spent a good twenty minutes trying to contact Tesla and have called them and emailed twice but still no response. Has anyone had this happen before and get subsequently contacted by Tesla for a return? My ultimate plan will be to sell it 2nd hand if they fail to get back to me after a month. Not fond of storing their equipment and taking that liability for more than a month. | PresidentSnow | 2021-07-29 17:47:19 | 38 | h71217q | Hopefully you didn t get double charged for your double chargers. | jianders | 2021-07-30 01:15:06 | 34 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ou2f6k | [Tesla Store] Ordered a Tesla Wall charger and received two charging units. Anyone have a similar experience? | Hey All & #x200B Ordered a Tesla charger from the store and they sent two units ([https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ](https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ)). I have spent a good twenty minutes trying to contact Tesla and have called them and emailed twice but still no response. Has anyone had this happen before and get subsequently contacted by Tesla for a return? My ultimate plan will be to sell it 2nd hand if they fail to get back to me after a month. Not fond of storing their equipment and taking that liability for more than a month. | PresidentSnow | 2021-07-29 17:47:19 | 38 | h716jmh | Compensation for when Tesla Customer Service inevitably runs you up a wall in the future. | tp1996 | 2021-07-30 01:50:49 | 22 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ou2f6k | [Tesla Store] Ordered a Tesla Wall charger and received two charging units. Anyone have a similar experience? | Hey All & #x200B Ordered a Tesla charger from the store and they sent two units ([https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ](https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ)). I have spent a good twenty minutes trying to contact Tesla and have called them and emailed twice but still no response. Has anyone had this happen before and get subsequently contacted by Tesla for a return? My ultimate plan will be to sell it 2nd hand if they fail to get back to me after a month. Not fond of storing their equipment and taking that liability for more than a month. | PresidentSnow | 2021-07-29 17:47:19 | 38 | h71jjtz | Maybe this is why they re so backlogged. They re probably giving two Ys to everyone who orders one | garoo1234567 | 2021-07-30 03:41:47 | 21 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ou2f6k | [Tesla Store] Ordered a Tesla Wall charger and received two charging units. Anyone have a similar experience? | Hey All & #x200B Ordered a Tesla charger from the store and they sent two units ([https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ](https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ)). I have spent a good twenty minutes trying to contact Tesla and have called them and emailed twice but still no response. Has anyone had this happen before and get subsequently contacted by Tesla for a return? My ultimate plan will be to sell it 2nd hand if they fail to get back to me after a month. Not fond of storing their equipment and taking that liability for more than a month. | PresidentSnow | 2021-07-29 17:47:19 | 38 | h7125qh | You aren t obligated to send or give it back. I d keep it for a month like a you said then sell it. | Caleb1531 | 2021-07-30 01:16:05 | 9 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ou2f6k | [Tesla Store] Ordered a Tesla Wall charger and received two charging units. Anyone have a similar experience? | Hey All & #x200B Ordered a Tesla charger from the store and they sent two units ([https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ](https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ)). I have spent a good twenty minutes trying to contact Tesla and have called them and emailed twice but still no response. Has anyone had this happen before and get subsequently contacted by Tesla for a return? My ultimate plan will be to sell it 2nd hand if they fail to get back to me after a month. Not fond of storing their equipment and taking that liability for more than a month. | PresidentSnow | 2021-07-29 17:47:19 | 38 | h712oqj | I bought mine off someone who had a similar experience! Sell one and make a quick buck. | cshiell79 | 2021-07-30 01:20:12 | 8 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ou2f6k | [Tesla Store] Ordered a Tesla Wall charger and received two charging units. Anyone have a similar experience? | Hey All & #x200B Ordered a Tesla charger from the store and they sent two units ([https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ](https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ)). I have spent a good twenty minutes trying to contact Tesla and have called them and emailed twice but still no response. Has anyone had this happen before and get subsequently contacted by Tesla for a return? My ultimate plan will be to sell it 2nd hand if they fail to get back to me after a month. Not fond of storing their equipment and taking that liability for more than a month. | PresidentSnow | 2021-07-29 17:47:19 | 38 | h72vzhv | I once got a Pop Tart packet with 3 pieces. | UrbanArcologist | 2021-07-30 13:21:35 | 8 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ou2f6k | [Tesla Store] Ordered a Tesla Wall charger and received two charging units. Anyone have a similar experience? | Hey All & #x200B Ordered a Tesla charger from the store and they sent two units ([https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ](https: imgur.com a 5lZkfjQ)). I have spent a good twenty minutes trying to contact Tesla and have called them and emailed twice but still no response. Has anyone had this happen before and get subsequently contacted by Tesla for a return? My ultimate plan will be to sell it 2nd hand if they fail to get back to me after a month. Not fond of storing their equipment and taking that liability for more than a month. | PresidentSnow | 2021-07-29 17:47:19 | 38 | h714d5c | Fine I ll take it | erniyer | 2021-07-30 01:33:22 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
dq67t5 | [Tesla Visual Neural Net Idea]: Automatic Air Recirculation when Garbage Dump Truck Detected | Elon keeps up here and I haven t seen this idea posted before so I was hoping we could get some exposure to it. We all know that feeling when we pull up behind a garbage truck or dump truck (or really any old smoke spewing vehicle but that is a bit harder task to train a visual neural net on) and our air recirculation is not enabled and we just got a huge whiff of garbage or exhaust in our face (which is now even more noticeable with our exhaust free cars.) **A fairly simple task would be that upon detection of a garbage truck or dump truck in your area turn on air recirculation until 1 minute after the last detection.** Just a small quality of life improvement that wouldn t really need significant development time as they will surely train the visual neural net to better distinguish vehicle types anyway for tasks such as knowing garbage trucks may stop often and should be passed when safe. | Takaa | 2019-11-01 16:01:50 | 14 | f60s13e | I wonder if the HVAC system has any sensors for air particulates. I have an air filter at home that revs up and down based on detected air particulates. Would be nice if I drove by some stinking farm it would auto turn on bio hazard mode. | pixel4 | 2019-11-01 16:11:04 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
68mqiy | [Thought Experiment] Does Tesla have exposure to Lemon Law claims for AP2 non-performance? | This is a thought experiment. I m aware that AP2 may eventually pass AP1 in features. However this is a discussion about what is true today and wondering what would happen if someone filed a lemon law against Tesla. There are about 20 000 cars out there where the owners placed an order when HW1 AP1 cars were for sale. During the wait for delivery the cars were switched to HW2 AP2. Tesla did not make these owners sign anything saying that they were aware of the differences in these cars against what they researched or test drove. Tesla s public page left the impression on many people that the AP2 cars would do all an AP1 car does by the end of December 2016. Now 5 months later there are still serious deficiencies some of which are still not made clear on the Tesla website. On top of that there s another 40 000 cars who bought after AP2 was announced who may have bought on the various claims and statements Tesla made about when features would be available. So say you take your AP2 car to Tesla and say the auto wipers are broken (or auto high beams automatic emergency braking perpendicular parking won t read speed limit signs won t show different vehicle types on the dash or just doesn t drive as well as AP1 on the highway). You ask them to fix it. They say that s a future SW update. You say I wasn t told that when I bought it and you ve been saying that it s just weeks away for 5 months now. Sounds like a classic case of lemon law. They told you the car could do something and after repeated visits they can t get it working. I know different states have different laws but what stops someone from winning this claim in some states? Making this claim having Tesla refund your purchase and turning right around and buying another one would be a pretty smart financial decision if you ve had the car for a while. | beastpilot | 2017-05-01 15:47:24 | 12 | dgzo6j7 | You have to have evidence of malfunctioning hardware due to quality of manufacturing to be able to call it a lemon. Since the software isn t installed to test the hardware has any problems you can t say it s malfunctioning. Anyone purchasing a Tesla knows that it s almost a computer before it is a car. I can be promised that a new MacBook Pro can edit professional video but Final Cut doesn t come in the box it comes after purchase. Would be a good case for a law clinic law school to research though! | kirbyCUBE | 2017-05-01 16:35:59 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
49re0r | [Toronto Ontario] Condominium EV plug installation process. | So I ve received a couple of messages from redditors who are planning on buying an EV in the Toronto area and were looking on pointers for the process of installing the plug especially in a residential condominium setting. As noted in the title keep in mind this is specifically for Ontario and may vary province-to-province and country-to-country. So here s the process I had to go through: - First I had to receive majority vote approval from the condominium board to allow for a CEMA (common element modification agreement) as well as tying into base building electrical (I was lucky in my case that the electrical room for the building was located on the same level as my parking spot) - Once approved I had to cover both the cost of my lawyer and the condo s lawyer to review and prepare the CEMA. - The installation of the plug as well was all out of my own pocket and I went with a 3rd party electrician to do the installation (I am sure Tesla and or other EV brands may be able to refer someone) - One of the conditions of their approval was that my plug had to be separately metered and the hydro company (not Toronto Hydro a 3rd party company: Priority Meter) would read this meter twice a year and charge me accordingly This was the process I went through all before going firm on my purchase in my condo. I d recommend making any agreement (lease or purchase and sale) conditional on getting the necessary condo approval first. I previously almost purchased a condo in the Distillery District (33 Mill Street I believe it was) and actually had the condo board turn me down. Thankfully my agreement was condition on specifically that so I was able to walk away from the agreement without penalty. You d be surprised how many condos are still living in the dark ages. Anyway this is pretty niche (especially for this sub-reddit) but happy to answer any questions anyone may have or re-post elsewhere if it would help. Cheers. -ben EDIT: u Bluechip9 provided some useful info for rebates available for charging stations [here](http: www.mto.gov.on.ca english vehicles electric charging-incentive-program.shtml) | twenty9yearolds | 2016-03-10 01:54:15 | 40 | d0uehnf | Could you share a rough ballpark on total out of pocket expenses? | fromaboat | 2016-03-10 05:35:32 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7ofe8x | [UPDATE FIX] LTE Throttling and Streaming Radio Performance | So I have just received a response from the executive support team at Tesla. Apparently the TMC and Reddit posts were very informative for them. It helped them isolate the issues affecting owners in the Eastern USA. They feel extremely confident that they have found the root cause of the problem and are rolling out a fix that should take affect after a few modem re-connections and or a media console reboot (hold down the scroll wheels). For those affected please take the time to retry streaming radio nav web reboot your media console do some streaming radio and internet speed tests and please report back your findings by the end of Monday. It makes me feel great that Tesla has already been tracking these threads and utilizing them for debug and diagnosis. I really hope I can say that the 3G-> LTE upgrade was worth it for me :) Also hopefully my http: qTes.la project will be useful again! Cheeers! EDIT: Holy shit 3Mbps! We did it! https: i.imgur.com U8j2Msp.jpg | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-05 23:44:23 | 122 | ds93cyb | “We did it reddit!!!” | An_aussie_in_ct | 2018-01-05 23:55:17 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7ofe8x | [UPDATE FIX] LTE Throttling and Streaming Radio Performance | So I have just received a response from the executive support team at Tesla. Apparently the TMC and Reddit posts were very informative for them. It helped them isolate the issues affecting owners in the Eastern USA. They feel extremely confident that they have found the root cause of the problem and are rolling out a fix that should take affect after a few modem re-connections and or a media console reboot (hold down the scroll wheels). For those affected please take the time to retry streaming radio nav web reboot your media console do some streaming radio and internet speed tests and please report back your findings by the end of Monday. It makes me feel great that Tesla has already been tracking these threads and utilizing them for debug and diagnosis. I really hope I can say that the 3G-> LTE upgrade was worth it for me :) Also hopefully my http: qTes.la project will be useful again! Cheeers! EDIT: Holy shit 3Mbps! We did it! https: i.imgur.com U8j2Msp.jpg | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-05 23:44:23 | 122 | ds9598z | I was going to post something today that this issue is gone for me. Works perfect now maybe even better than before. | DrLegoHair | 2018-01-06 00:32:58 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7ofe8x | [UPDATE FIX] LTE Throttling and Streaming Radio Performance | So I have just received a response from the executive support team at Tesla. Apparently the TMC and Reddit posts were very informative for them. It helped them isolate the issues affecting owners in the Eastern USA. They feel extremely confident that they have found the root cause of the problem and are rolling out a fix that should take affect after a few modem re-connections and or a media console reboot (hold down the scroll wheels). For those affected please take the time to retry streaming radio nav web reboot your media console do some streaming radio and internet speed tests and please report back your findings by the end of Monday. It makes me feel great that Tesla has already been tracking these threads and utilizing them for debug and diagnosis. I really hope I can say that the 3G-> LTE upgrade was worth it for me :) Also hopefully my http: qTes.la project will be useful again! Cheeers! EDIT: Holy shit 3Mbps! We did it! https: i.imgur.com U8j2Msp.jpg | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-05 23:44:23 | 122 | ds99pie | Mine seem notably improved as of today as well ( New England). Slacker (upgraded to premium bitrate) has been unusable for the last two months or so as well. Also noticed that sound system in general (UHFS) sounded fuller richer and with was able to find more bass. Maybe through all the struggling it was never able to even try the higher bitrate. Fingers crossed. | tadslippy | 2018-01-06 02:03:42 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7ofe8x | [UPDATE FIX] LTE Throttling and Streaming Radio Performance | So I have just received a response from the executive support team at Tesla. Apparently the TMC and Reddit posts were very informative for them. It helped them isolate the issues affecting owners in the Eastern USA. They feel extremely confident that they have found the root cause of the problem and are rolling out a fix that should take affect after a few modem re-connections and or a media console reboot (hold down the scroll wheels). For those affected please take the time to retry streaming radio nav web reboot your media console do some streaming radio and internet speed tests and please report back your findings by the end of Monday. It makes me feel great that Tesla has already been tracking these threads and utilizing them for debug and diagnosis. I really hope I can say that the 3G-> LTE upgrade was worth it for me :) Also hopefully my http: qTes.la project will be useful again! Cheeers! EDIT: Holy shit 3Mbps! We did it! https: i.imgur.com U8j2Msp.jpg | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-05 23:44:23 | 122 | ds98tma | Thank you for calling support! | seabie | 2018-01-06 01:45:06 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7ofe8x | [UPDATE FIX] LTE Throttling and Streaming Radio Performance | So I have just received a response from the executive support team at Tesla. Apparently the TMC and Reddit posts were very informative for them. It helped them isolate the issues affecting owners in the Eastern USA. They feel extremely confident that they have found the root cause of the problem and are rolling out a fix that should take affect after a few modem re-connections and or a media console reboot (hold down the scroll wheels). For those affected please take the time to retry streaming radio nav web reboot your media console do some streaming radio and internet speed tests and please report back your findings by the end of Monday. It makes me feel great that Tesla has already been tracking these threads and utilizing them for debug and diagnosis. I really hope I can say that the 3G-> LTE upgrade was worth it for me :) Also hopefully my http: qTes.la project will be useful again! Cheeers! EDIT: Holy shit 3Mbps! We did it! https: i.imgur.com U8j2Msp.jpg | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-05 23:44:23 | 122 | ds9b9xz | Did they tell you what caused it? | TheRainbowNoob | 2018-01-06 02:36:30 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7ofe8x | [UPDATE FIX] LTE Throttling and Streaming Radio Performance | So I have just received a response from the executive support team at Tesla. Apparently the TMC and Reddit posts were very informative for them. It helped them isolate the issues affecting owners in the Eastern USA. They feel extremely confident that they have found the root cause of the problem and are rolling out a fix that should take affect after a few modem re-connections and or a media console reboot (hold down the scroll wheels). For those affected please take the time to retry streaming radio nav web reboot your media console do some streaming radio and internet speed tests and please report back your findings by the end of Monday. It makes me feel great that Tesla has already been tracking these threads and utilizing them for debug and diagnosis. I really hope I can say that the 3G-> LTE upgrade was worth it for me :) Also hopefully my http: qTes.la project will be useful again! Cheeers! EDIT: Holy shit 3Mbps! We did it! https: i.imgur.com U8j2Msp.jpg | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-05 23:44:23 | 122 | ds9bc4f | Thanks for following up with all of us to let us know! | majesticjg | 2018-01-06 02:37:44 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7p815j | [UPDATE POLL] LTE Throttling Update from Tesla | Hey All Just a quick update here as Tesla called me personally this morning and I just got off the phone. Tesla is confirming that the regional data collection here and TMC combined with pulling my car s logs while I was doing daily speed tests lead to them identifying the bottleneck in their network topology. They immediately realized the significance of what they found which is why they were so confident in a fix for a large portion of the country. I am just passing along their thanks to the community on this one and for our patience with the issue. Please if you are still experiencing very slow connectivity streaming performance and cannot achieve a connection better than ~240kbps post your speed tests here! Otherwise I think ... **We did it Reddit!** edit: I just got my Service Invoice and this is the exact note on my record: > LTE coverage tests were performed over the weekend. The modem team was able to use > that data to nail down the cause of a problem that was causing LTE bottlenecks all across > the east coast since mid-November 2017. Those customers should now be getting 10x > data throughput. Customer is advised to monitor LTE and to contact service center is the > problem reappears edit2: Awww.. Tesla is sending me a gift for the help :D | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-09 16:05:06 | 192 | dsf8j6z | Thanks guy the difference is absolutely noticeable in NJ! Now I m having issues with my gps suddenly. Damn thing just gets stuck. Are you having any issues with that? Maybe they are related. Started acting funny sometime last week. | KratosJonesPSN | 2018-01-09 16:49:27 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7p815j | [UPDATE POLL] LTE Throttling Update from Tesla | Hey All Just a quick update here as Tesla called me personally this morning and I just got off the phone. Tesla is confirming that the regional data collection here and TMC combined with pulling my car s logs while I was doing daily speed tests lead to them identifying the bottleneck in their network topology. They immediately realized the significance of what they found which is why they were so confident in a fix for a large portion of the country. I am just passing along their thanks to the community on this one and for our patience with the issue. Please if you are still experiencing very slow connectivity streaming performance and cannot achieve a connection better than ~240kbps post your speed tests here! Otherwise I think ... **We did it Reddit!** edit: I just got my Service Invoice and this is the exact note on my record: > LTE coverage tests were performed over the weekend. The modem team was able to use > that data to nail down the cause of a problem that was causing LTE bottlenecks all across > the east coast since mid-November 2017. Those customers should now be getting 10x > data throughput. Customer is advised to monitor LTE and to contact service center is the > problem reappears edit2: Awww.. Tesla is sending me a gift for the help :D | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-09 16:05:06 | 192 | dsff8i8 | Hot damn! I m getting 2.8 mbps again!!!. I ve been getting between 86 and 100 kbps ever since the 2017.42 update. Thanks you JaredBanyard and thank you Tesla! | 2paranoid | 2018-01-09 18:38:16 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7p815j | [UPDATE POLL] LTE Throttling Update from Tesla | Hey All Just a quick update here as Tesla called me personally this morning and I just got off the phone. Tesla is confirming that the regional data collection here and TMC combined with pulling my car s logs while I was doing daily speed tests lead to them identifying the bottleneck in their network topology. They immediately realized the significance of what they found which is why they were so confident in a fix for a large portion of the country. I am just passing along their thanks to the community on this one and for our patience with the issue. Please if you are still experiencing very slow connectivity streaming performance and cannot achieve a connection better than ~240kbps post your speed tests here! Otherwise I think ... **We did it Reddit!** edit: I just got my Service Invoice and this is the exact note on my record: > LTE coverage tests were performed over the weekend. The modem team was able to use > that data to nail down the cause of a problem that was causing LTE bottlenecks all across > the east coast since mid-November 2017. Those customers should now be getting 10x > data throughput. Customer is advised to monitor LTE and to contact service center is the > problem reappears edit2: Awww.. Tesla is sending me a gift for the help :D | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-09 16:05:06 | 192 | dsfjopz | That gift? A mobile hotspot. | HellsNels | 2018-01-09 19:50:44 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7p815j | [UPDATE POLL] LTE Throttling Update from Tesla | Hey All Just a quick update here as Tesla called me personally this morning and I just got off the phone. Tesla is confirming that the regional data collection here and TMC combined with pulling my car s logs while I was doing daily speed tests lead to them identifying the bottleneck in their network topology. They immediately realized the significance of what they found which is why they were so confident in a fix for a large portion of the country. I am just passing along their thanks to the community on this one and for our patience with the issue. Please if you are still experiencing very slow connectivity streaming performance and cannot achieve a connection better than ~240kbps post your speed tests here! Otherwise I think ... **We did it Reddit!** edit: I just got my Service Invoice and this is the exact note on my record: > LTE coverage tests were performed over the weekend. The modem team was able to use > that data to nail down the cause of a problem that was causing LTE bottlenecks all across > the east coast since mid-November 2017. Those customers should now be getting 10x > data throughput. Customer is advised to monitor LTE and to contact service center is the > problem reappears edit2: Awww.. Tesla is sending me a gift for the help :D | JaredBanyard | 2018-01-09 16:05:06 | 192 | dsfulhh | Is it too early to nominate this for the Best of the Sub 2018 awards? I know I ll forget and this is really cool. | _rdaneel_ | 2018-01-09 22:49:19 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
izlizl | [UPDATE] 2020 Model 3 isn t pulling any amps when plugged in | [original post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments iwr61e 2020_model_3_isnt_pulling_any_amps_when_plugged_in ) As mentioned in my original post I had a mobile service appointment scheduled to check into why 2020 SR+ wouldn t charge. I received a call from Tesla Virtual Service team yesterday and after looking at my car and seeing a few alarms they rescheduled me to a service center appointment. I dropped the car off this morning and got the diagnosis back that the Power Conversion System needs replaced: Parts Replaced or Added Part Quantity * ASY PCS 32A 1PH MDL3(1135558-01-D) 1.0 * BREATHER NITTO Z-PLUG-S(1108907-00-A) 2.0 They are fixing it under warranty and gave me a Model S70D as loaner since they are keeping my car for a few days. Not going to lie having the power conversion system of an *electric car* fail after only 9 months makes me a bit nervous. But I suppose all new cars can have random issues... | hoky315 | 2020-09-25 15:28:01 | 41 | g6jo1ce | Ever had an engine issue with a gas car? Did that make you nervous about owning one? Unexpected maintenance sucks but it happens and shouldn t sour you on owning either a gas or electric vehicle. | imareddituserwow | 2020-09-25 16:00:19 | 11 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
izlizl | [UPDATE] 2020 Model 3 isn t pulling any amps when plugged in | [original post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments iwr61e 2020_model_3_isnt_pulling_any_amps_when_plugged_in ) As mentioned in my original post I had a mobile service appointment scheduled to check into why 2020 SR+ wouldn t charge. I received a call from Tesla Virtual Service team yesterday and after looking at my car and seeing a few alarms they rescheduled me to a service center appointment. I dropped the car off this morning and got the diagnosis back that the Power Conversion System needs replaced: Parts Replaced or Added Part Quantity * ASY PCS 32A 1PH MDL3(1135558-01-D) 1.0 * BREATHER NITTO Z-PLUG-S(1108907-00-A) 2.0 They are fixing it under warranty and gave me a Model S70D as loaner since they are keeping my car for a few days. Not going to lie having the power conversion system of an *electric car* fail after only 9 months makes me a bit nervous. But I suppose all new cars can have random issues... | hoky315 | 2020-09-25 15:28:01 | 41 | g6jpbad | Just about every car can have components fail. Components like the onboard charger (PCS) are designed to be modular and easily replaceable and if anything the ability for Tesla to do so much diagnosis either remotely or by onboard codes is pretty awesome. For someone who s owned a lot of complicated German and American cars I would say any time they can swap a component and that resolved the problem don t lose any sleep over it. It s a worse sign if the proposed fix is complicated or doesn t solve the problem which suggests they re off the beaten path or don t know what the true problem is. | chillaban | 2020-09-25 16:11:10 | 9 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
izlizl | [UPDATE] 2020 Model 3 isn t pulling any amps when plugged in | [original post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments iwr61e 2020_model_3_isnt_pulling_any_amps_when_plugged_in ) As mentioned in my original post I had a mobile service appointment scheduled to check into why 2020 SR+ wouldn t charge. I received a call from Tesla Virtual Service team yesterday and after looking at my car and seeing a few alarms they rescheduled me to a service center appointment. I dropped the car off this morning and got the diagnosis back that the Power Conversion System needs replaced: Parts Replaced or Added Part Quantity * ASY PCS 32A 1PH MDL3(1135558-01-D) 1.0 * BREATHER NITTO Z-PLUG-S(1108907-00-A) 2.0 They are fixing it under warranty and gave me a Model S70D as loaner since they are keeping my car for a few days. Not going to lie having the power conversion system of an *electric car* fail after only 9 months makes me a bit nervous. But I suppose all new cars can have random issues... | hoky315 | 2020-09-25 15:28:01 | 41 | g6kx9y9 | I had my PCS replaced on my 2019 SR+ for a recall and now it is scheduled to be replaced again. Not great for a car not too much over a year old. | misternt | 2020-09-25 22:40:23 | 8 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
izlizl | [UPDATE] 2020 Model 3 isn t pulling any amps when plugged in | [original post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments iwr61e 2020_model_3_isnt_pulling_any_amps_when_plugged_in ) As mentioned in my original post I had a mobile service appointment scheduled to check into why 2020 SR+ wouldn t charge. I received a call from Tesla Virtual Service team yesterday and after looking at my car and seeing a few alarms they rescheduled me to a service center appointment. I dropped the car off this morning and got the diagnosis back that the Power Conversion System needs replaced: Parts Replaced or Added Part Quantity * ASY PCS 32A 1PH MDL3(1135558-01-D) 1.0 * BREATHER NITTO Z-PLUG-S(1108907-00-A) 2.0 They are fixing it under warranty and gave me a Model S70D as loaner since they are keeping my car for a few days. Not going to lie having the power conversion system of an *electric car* fail after only 9 months makes me a bit nervous. But I suppose all new cars can have random issues... | hoky315 | 2020-09-25 15:28:01 | 41 | g6jtlui | There was some bulletin about failures from missing breather plugs. Wonder if it applies to your situation. | pursual | 2020-09-25 16:46:52 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9dj3kq | [UPDATE] 54 days fully paid I have taken delivery: A Texas Follow Up | [See my previous post for context](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9cdhgy 50_days_fully_paid_still_no_delivery_a_texas_story ?st=jlqnhmfk& sh=4de26b19) [UPDATE](https: i.imgur.com sw8GibK.jpg) This all happened very quickly since the weekend. Yesterday I became the first Tesla customer in Texas to take **at home delivery** of their Model 3. I was contacted on Sunday by someone high up in Tesla Delivery operations and they were my sole contact for the rest of the way. In fact he personally delivered my car! Unfortunately I don t actually know what happened with this whole saga only that my car went from Oklahoma to in my possession in less than 24 hours. I believe this is a systemic failure and not the result of individual employee incompetence. There is no mechanism of prioritization after a certain point so some cars get delivered in a week and some (like mine) sit for over a month. There is no flag that triggers to tell management to shift priority. The only reason I can see that mine was expedited is because I guessed the email addresses of members of Tesla management. And hey [I got one of these](https: i.imgur.com FgZrdLJ.png) for my trouble (I was not a line waiter). | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-06 14:24:20 | 228 | e5hxcuj | Your persistence paid off if I was a Tesla VP I would certainly monitor this sub and look into stories like yours. Although my guess is calling and writing to Tesla is probably what did it. Although I m sure there are probably dozens of issues like yours right now. What will hopefully happen is they create a report and at least monitor the cases when someone is likely making payments on a car that never received. A week is unfortunate but anything over 3 weeks needs immediate attention. In a state like Texas a law maker could easily use cases like yours to justify why Tesla should never get to sell direct to consumers. That s not good for anyone. | phxees | 2018-09-06 14:59:51 | 24 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9dj3kq | [UPDATE] 54 days fully paid I have taken delivery: A Texas Follow Up | [See my previous post for context](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9cdhgy 50_days_fully_paid_still_no_delivery_a_texas_story ?st=jlqnhmfk& sh=4de26b19) [UPDATE](https: i.imgur.com sw8GibK.jpg) This all happened very quickly since the weekend. Yesterday I became the first Tesla customer in Texas to take **at home delivery** of their Model 3. I was contacted on Sunday by someone high up in Tesla Delivery operations and they were my sole contact for the rest of the way. In fact he personally delivered my car! Unfortunately I don t actually know what happened with this whole saga only that my car went from Oklahoma to in my possession in less than 24 hours. I believe this is a systemic failure and not the result of individual employee incompetence. There is no mechanism of prioritization after a certain point so some cars get delivered in a week and some (like mine) sit for over a month. There is no flag that triggers to tell management to shift priority. The only reason I can see that mine was expedited is because I guessed the email addresses of members of Tesla management. And hey [I got one of these](https: i.imgur.com FgZrdLJ.png) for my trouble (I was not a line waiter). | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-06 14:24:20 | 228 | e5hv8qe | Glad to see that you ve finally gotten your car. Congrats. | tamtam10 | 2018-09-06 14:29:04 | 10 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9dj3kq | [UPDATE] 54 days fully paid I have taken delivery: A Texas Follow Up | [See my previous post for context](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9cdhgy 50_days_fully_paid_still_no_delivery_a_texas_story ?st=jlqnhmfk& sh=4de26b19) [UPDATE](https: i.imgur.com sw8GibK.jpg) This all happened very quickly since the weekend. Yesterday I became the first Tesla customer in Texas to take **at home delivery** of their Model 3. I was contacted on Sunday by someone high up in Tesla Delivery operations and they were my sole contact for the rest of the way. In fact he personally delivered my car! Unfortunately I don t actually know what happened with this whole saga only that my car went from Oklahoma to in my possession in less than 24 hours. I believe this is a systemic failure and not the result of individual employee incompetence. There is no mechanism of prioritization after a certain point so some cars get delivered in a week and some (like mine) sit for over a month. There is no flag that triggers to tell management to shift priority. The only reason I can see that mine was expedited is because I guessed the email addresses of members of Tesla management. And hey [I got one of these](https: i.imgur.com FgZrdLJ.png) for my trouble (I was not a line waiter). | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-06 14:24:20 | 228 | e5hw9uj | 👏🏻 I have pretty much lost faith that I will actually receive mine by late September. | nrrdot | 2018-09-06 14:44:05 | 10 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9dj3kq | [UPDATE] 54 days fully paid I have taken delivery: A Texas Follow Up | [See my previous post for context](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9cdhgy 50_days_fully_paid_still_no_delivery_a_texas_story ?st=jlqnhmfk& sh=4de26b19) [UPDATE](https: i.imgur.com sw8GibK.jpg) This all happened very quickly since the weekend. Yesterday I became the first Tesla customer in Texas to take **at home delivery** of their Model 3. I was contacted on Sunday by someone high up in Tesla Delivery operations and they were my sole contact for the rest of the way. In fact he personally delivered my car! Unfortunately I don t actually know what happened with this whole saga only that my car went from Oklahoma to in my possession in less than 24 hours. I believe this is a systemic failure and not the result of individual employee incompetence. There is no mechanism of prioritization after a certain point so some cars get delivered in a week and some (like mine) sit for over a month. There is no flag that triggers to tell management to shift priority. The only reason I can see that mine was expedited is because I guessed the email addresses of members of Tesla management. And hey [I got one of these](https: i.imgur.com FgZrdLJ.png) for my trouble (I was not a line waiter). | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-06 14:24:20 | 228 | e5hxviq | Did the electrek article have something to do with it? https: electrek.co 2018 09 05 tesla-model-3-delivery-growing-pains-delivery-delays | OPVFTW | 2018-09-06 15:07:30 | 10 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9dj3kq | [UPDATE] 54 days fully paid I have taken delivery: A Texas Follow Up | [See my previous post for context](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9cdhgy 50_days_fully_paid_still_no_delivery_a_texas_story ?st=jlqnhmfk& sh=4de26b19) [UPDATE](https: i.imgur.com sw8GibK.jpg) This all happened very quickly since the weekend. Yesterday I became the first Tesla customer in Texas to take **at home delivery** of their Model 3. I was contacted on Sunday by someone high up in Tesla Delivery operations and they were my sole contact for the rest of the way. In fact he personally delivered my car! Unfortunately I don t actually know what happened with this whole saga only that my car went from Oklahoma to in my possession in less than 24 hours. I believe this is a systemic failure and not the result of individual employee incompetence. There is no mechanism of prioritization after a certain point so some cars get delivered in a week and some (like mine) sit for over a month. There is no flag that triggers to tell management to shift priority. The only reason I can see that mine was expedited is because I guessed the email addresses of members of Tesla management. And hey [I got one of these](https: i.imgur.com FgZrdLJ.png) for my trouble (I was not a line waiter). | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-06 14:24:20 | 228 | e5i1cel | Aww white Model 3 in Austin like mine! Only difference is I got Sport wheels. I had a 2 week delay on my contract but that was before I paid in full. After my contract my car got to me in 6 days and was delivered flawlessly. Sorry yours got so messed up. HMU if you need a good window tint company. :-) | dcdttu | 2018-09-06 15:56:44 | 8 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9dj3kq | [UPDATE] 54 days fully paid I have taken delivery: A Texas Follow Up | [See my previous post for context](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9cdhgy 50_days_fully_paid_still_no_delivery_a_texas_story ?st=jlqnhmfk& sh=4de26b19) [UPDATE](https: i.imgur.com sw8GibK.jpg) This all happened very quickly since the weekend. Yesterday I became the first Tesla customer in Texas to take **at home delivery** of their Model 3. I was contacted on Sunday by someone high up in Tesla Delivery operations and they were my sole contact for the rest of the way. In fact he personally delivered my car! Unfortunately I don t actually know what happened with this whole saga only that my car went from Oklahoma to in my possession in less than 24 hours. I believe this is a systemic failure and not the result of individual employee incompetence. There is no mechanism of prioritization after a certain point so some cars get delivered in a week and some (like mine) sit for over a month. There is no flag that triggers to tell management to shift priority. The only reason I can see that mine was expedited is because I guessed the email addresses of members of Tesla management. And hey [I got one of these](https: i.imgur.com FgZrdLJ.png) for my trouble (I was not a line waiter). | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-06 14:24:20 | 228 | e5hw7oh | That s pretty cool did they home deliver because of the wait or was it because you actually lived far from the SC? | jacobdu215 | 2018-09-06 14:43:13 | 7 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9dj3kq | [UPDATE] 54 days fully paid I have taken delivery: A Texas Follow Up | [See my previous post for context](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9cdhgy 50_days_fully_paid_still_no_delivery_a_texas_story ?st=jlqnhmfk& sh=4de26b19) [UPDATE](https: i.imgur.com sw8GibK.jpg) This all happened very quickly since the weekend. Yesterday I became the first Tesla customer in Texas to take **at home delivery** of their Model 3. I was contacted on Sunday by someone high up in Tesla Delivery operations and they were my sole contact for the rest of the way. In fact he personally delivered my car! Unfortunately I don t actually know what happened with this whole saga only that my car went from Oklahoma to in my possession in less than 24 hours. I believe this is a systemic failure and not the result of individual employee incompetence. There is no mechanism of prioritization after a certain point so some cars get delivered in a week and some (like mine) sit for over a month. There is no flag that triggers to tell management to shift priority. The only reason I can see that mine was expedited is because I guessed the email addresses of members of Tesla management. And hey [I got one of these](https: i.imgur.com FgZrdLJ.png) for my trouble (I was not a line waiter). | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-06 14:24:20 | 228 | e5hvx2w | It m glad you got it! | maverick8717 | 2018-09-06 14:39:00 | 5 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9dj3kq | [UPDATE] 54 days fully paid I have taken delivery: A Texas Follow Up | [See my previous post for context](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9cdhgy 50_days_fully_paid_still_no_delivery_a_texas_story ?st=jlqnhmfk& sh=4de26b19) [UPDATE](https: i.imgur.com sw8GibK.jpg) This all happened very quickly since the weekend. Yesterday I became the first Tesla customer in Texas to take **at home delivery** of their Model 3. I was contacted on Sunday by someone high up in Tesla Delivery operations and they were my sole contact for the rest of the way. In fact he personally delivered my car! Unfortunately I don t actually know what happened with this whole saga only that my car went from Oklahoma to in my possession in less than 24 hours. I believe this is a systemic failure and not the result of individual employee incompetence. There is no mechanism of prioritization after a certain point so some cars get delivered in a week and some (like mine) sit for over a month. There is no flag that triggers to tell management to shift priority. The only reason I can see that mine was expedited is because I guessed the email addresses of members of Tesla management. And hey [I got one of these](https: i.imgur.com FgZrdLJ.png) for my trouble (I was not a line waiter). | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-06 14:24:20 | 228 | e5hw2gt | That s good to hear! Congratz! | Cubicbill1 | 2018-09-06 14:41:10 | 5 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9dj3kq | [UPDATE] 54 days fully paid I have taken delivery: A Texas Follow Up | [See my previous post for context](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9cdhgy 50_days_fully_paid_still_no_delivery_a_texas_story ?st=jlqnhmfk& sh=4de26b19) [UPDATE](https: i.imgur.com sw8GibK.jpg) This all happened very quickly since the weekend. Yesterday I became the first Tesla customer in Texas to take **at home delivery** of their Model 3. I was contacted on Sunday by someone high up in Tesla Delivery operations and they were my sole contact for the rest of the way. In fact he personally delivered my car! Unfortunately I don t actually know what happened with this whole saga only that my car went from Oklahoma to in my possession in less than 24 hours. I believe this is a systemic failure and not the result of individual employee incompetence. There is no mechanism of prioritization after a certain point so some cars get delivered in a week and some (like mine) sit for over a month. There is no flag that triggers to tell management to shift priority. The only reason I can see that mine was expedited is because I guessed the email addresses of members of Tesla management. And hey [I got one of these](https: i.imgur.com FgZrdLJ.png) for my trouble (I was not a line waiter). | SleepingLesson | 2018-09-06 14:24:20 | 228 | e5i0yb3 | I m happy that upper management is finally taking notice on these systematic failures to have manual intervention until they figure out thr issues. | jedi2155 | 2018-09-06 15:51:17 | 5 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9ap9nb | [UPDATE] Awesome weekend with a brick in my driveway. | Alright so now that I have some time to write this I shall do. The car was fixed by the service center over the weekend (Saturday to be exact they stayed after closing time just so I could get my car back). Roadside assistance also did a great job at getting me going -- this was never the problem nor the reason why I posted about my problem. All in all the customer service was pretty great. As I m sure you can all imagine I was pissed when this happened. While I m all for giving praises to the people I spoke with at Tesla the problem isn t the after the fact help.. Really I shouldn t have had to take my car in (get it towed even) because of a failed update. So.. I m sure everybody wants to know what the problem was. Well it turns out that the service center suspects that the problem was poor WiFi connectivity. That s a pretty insane reason for it to fail if you ask me -- most people s wifi will be poor in their driveway garage. If this can cause failure rendering the car useless that s a terrrible design. I m still annoyed that it ate my Saturday for something that should never ever happen but at least I have my car back. Edit: Here s the original post https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9a8m47 awesome_weekend_with_a_brick_in_my_driveway | wickedsun | 2018-08-27 14:13:19 | 160 | e4x14bt | The original post being referenced: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9a8m47 awesome_weekend_with_a_brick_in_my_driveway | Dr_Pippin | 2018-08-27 14:21:20 | 21 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9ap9nb | [UPDATE] Awesome weekend with a brick in my driveway. | Alright so now that I have some time to write this I shall do. The car was fixed by the service center over the weekend (Saturday to be exact they stayed after closing time just so I could get my car back). Roadside assistance also did a great job at getting me going -- this was never the problem nor the reason why I posted about my problem. All in all the customer service was pretty great. As I m sure you can all imagine I was pissed when this happened. While I m all for giving praises to the people I spoke with at Tesla the problem isn t the after the fact help.. Really I shouldn t have had to take my car in (get it towed even) because of a failed update. So.. I m sure everybody wants to know what the problem was. Well it turns out that the service center suspects that the problem was poor WiFi connectivity. That s a pretty insane reason for it to fail if you ask me -- most people s wifi will be poor in their driveway garage. If this can cause failure rendering the car useless that s a terrrible design. I m still annoyed that it ate my Saturday for something that should never ever happen but at least I have my car back. Edit: Here s the original post https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9a8m47 awesome_weekend_with_a_brick_in_my_driveway | wickedsun | 2018-08-27 14:13:19 | 160 | e4x1luf | Something in the SC s diagnosis doesn t make sense. I ve been updating my MS for four years in all sorts of places with dodgy or non-existent internet connection. Never had an issue. Just bullet profit upgrades for four years. Why this sudden rash of bricked Model 3s? | onestopunder | 2018-08-27 14:29:17 | 20 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9ap9nb | [UPDATE] Awesome weekend with a brick in my driveway. | Alright so now that I have some time to write this I shall do. The car was fixed by the service center over the weekend (Saturday to be exact they stayed after closing time just so I could get my car back). Roadside assistance also did a great job at getting me going -- this was never the problem nor the reason why I posted about my problem. All in all the customer service was pretty great. As I m sure you can all imagine I was pissed when this happened. While I m all for giving praises to the people I spoke with at Tesla the problem isn t the after the fact help.. Really I shouldn t have had to take my car in (get it towed even) because of a failed update. So.. I m sure everybody wants to know what the problem was. Well it turns out that the service center suspects that the problem was poor WiFi connectivity. That s a pretty insane reason for it to fail if you ask me -- most people s wifi will be poor in their driveway garage. If this can cause failure rendering the car useless that s a terrrible design. I m still annoyed that it ate my Saturday for something that should never ever happen but at least I have my car back. Edit: Here s the original post https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9a8m47 awesome_weekend_with_a_brick_in_my_driveway | wickedsun | 2018-08-27 14:13:19 | 160 | e4x2jsd | Don t like ‘speculation from the SC and it appears they only reimaged rather than diagnosed. Suggest you have support pull the logs to show the actual root cause. No update should apply unless and until the entire file downloads and passes checksum and validation. If it takes too long end and prompt to restart later. And if you wait for validation the download rate and retransmits are irrelevant. It could take a year - don t care. | 1st3inAZ | 2018-08-27 14:44:14 | 13 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9ap9nb | [UPDATE] Awesome weekend with a brick in my driveway. | Alright so now that I have some time to write this I shall do. The car was fixed by the service center over the weekend (Saturday to be exact they stayed after closing time just so I could get my car back). Roadside assistance also did a great job at getting me going -- this was never the problem nor the reason why I posted about my problem. All in all the customer service was pretty great. As I m sure you can all imagine I was pissed when this happened. While I m all for giving praises to the people I spoke with at Tesla the problem isn t the after the fact help.. Really I shouldn t have had to take my car in (get it towed even) because of a failed update. So.. I m sure everybody wants to know what the problem was. Well it turns out that the service center suspects that the problem was poor WiFi connectivity. That s a pretty insane reason for it to fail if you ask me -- most people s wifi will be poor in their driveway garage. If this can cause failure rendering the car useless that s a terrrible design. I m still annoyed that it ate my Saturday for something that should never ever happen but at least I have my car back. Edit: Here s the original post https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9a8m47 awesome_weekend_with_a_brick_in_my_driveway | wickedsun | 2018-08-27 14:13:19 | 160 | e4x173f | That indeed is quite unacceptable. Poor WiFi is likely to be quite common in a garage. Should I just disable WiFi and rely on LTE for updates or will they not kick off without WiFi? | Eldanon | 2018-08-27 14:22:35 | 12 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9ap9nb | [UPDATE] Awesome weekend with a brick in my driveway. | Alright so now that I have some time to write this I shall do. The car was fixed by the service center over the weekend (Saturday to be exact they stayed after closing time just so I could get my car back). Roadside assistance also did a great job at getting me going -- this was never the problem nor the reason why I posted about my problem. All in all the customer service was pretty great. As I m sure you can all imagine I was pissed when this happened. While I m all for giving praises to the people I spoke with at Tesla the problem isn t the after the fact help.. Really I shouldn t have had to take my car in (get it towed even) because of a failed update. So.. I m sure everybody wants to know what the problem was. Well it turns out that the service center suspects that the problem was poor WiFi connectivity. That s a pretty insane reason for it to fail if you ask me -- most people s wifi will be poor in their driveway garage. If this can cause failure rendering the car useless that s a terrrible design. I m still annoyed that it ate my Saturday for something that should never ever happen but at least I have my car back. Edit: Here s the original post https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9a8m47 awesome_weekend_with_a_brick_in_my_driveway | wickedsun | 2018-08-27 14:13:19 | 160 | e4x24ze | After reading this I m going to disconnect my Model 3 from my WiFi. I have decent LTE in my garage and I don t see what benefit WiFi gives me other than saving Tesla data charges from AT& T. | OompaOrangeFace | 2018-08-27 14:37:50 | 9 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9ap9nb | [UPDATE] Awesome weekend with a brick in my driveway. | Alright so now that I have some time to write this I shall do. The car was fixed by the service center over the weekend (Saturday to be exact they stayed after closing time just so I could get my car back). Roadside assistance also did a great job at getting me going -- this was never the problem nor the reason why I posted about my problem. All in all the customer service was pretty great. As I m sure you can all imagine I was pissed when this happened. While I m all for giving praises to the people I spoke with at Tesla the problem isn t the after the fact help.. Really I shouldn t have had to take my car in (get it towed even) because of a failed update. So.. I m sure everybody wants to know what the problem was. Well it turns out that the service center suspects that the problem was poor WiFi connectivity. That s a pretty insane reason for it to fail if you ask me -- most people s wifi will be poor in their driveway garage. If this can cause failure rendering the car useless that s a terrrible design. I m still annoyed that it ate my Saturday for something that should never ever happen but at least I have my car back. Edit: Here s the original post https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9a8m47 awesome_weekend_with_a_brick_in_my_driveway | wickedsun | 2018-08-27 14:13:19 | 160 | e4x3vz7 | 1. If WiFi is a problem I highly recommend Google WiFi or some other good mesh network solution. You d be shocked how bad it is to have just 1 router in most normal-sized homes. I ve got a 2 story that s about 1800 sq ft and having 2 mesh routers fixed so many issues. 2. Tesla should do what Google does with Pixel phones and have two System partitions that are identical. When an update arrives it s applied to one of the two partitions and if there s a problem the device simply rolls back to the other partition. It also makes for a much less disruptive update as it can do it in the background. | dcdttu | 2018-08-27 15:05:01 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9ap9nb | [UPDATE] Awesome weekend with a brick in my driveway. | Alright so now that I have some time to write this I shall do. The car was fixed by the service center over the weekend (Saturday to be exact they stayed after closing time just so I could get my car back). Roadside assistance also did a great job at getting me going -- this was never the problem nor the reason why I posted about my problem. All in all the customer service was pretty great. As I m sure you can all imagine I was pissed when this happened. While I m all for giving praises to the people I spoke with at Tesla the problem isn t the after the fact help.. Really I shouldn t have had to take my car in (get it towed even) because of a failed update. So.. I m sure everybody wants to know what the problem was. Well it turns out that the service center suspects that the problem was poor WiFi connectivity. That s a pretty insane reason for it to fail if you ask me -- most people s wifi will be poor in their driveway garage. If this can cause failure rendering the car useless that s a terrrible design. I m still annoyed that it ate my Saturday for something that should never ever happen but at least I have my car back. Edit: Here s the original post https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9a8m47 awesome_weekend_with_a_brick_in_my_driveway | wickedsun | 2018-08-27 14:13:19 | 160 | e4x4r0n | I just don t believe this (the service center explanation) - no way are they starting a firmware update until the full image is downloaded and checksummed locally. S & X folks can basically tell when there s an update coming down by monitoring the download bandwidth of home internet connections specifically the car MAC IP address. Tesla may do some dumb things but why would they have moved away from this model that while far from perfect typically only results in a “failed to update try again” when things go awry vs potentially rendering a car undriveable? I suspect something else was going on here like a mismatch between firmware that SHOULDN T have gotten pushed in a certain order and had absolutely nothing to do with WiFi signal strength. | LurkerWithAnAccount | 2018-08-27 15:18:14 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9ap9nb | [UPDATE] Awesome weekend with a brick in my driveway. | Alright so now that I have some time to write this I shall do. The car was fixed by the service center over the weekend (Saturday to be exact they stayed after closing time just so I could get my car back). Roadside assistance also did a great job at getting me going -- this was never the problem nor the reason why I posted about my problem. All in all the customer service was pretty great. As I m sure you can all imagine I was pissed when this happened. While I m all for giving praises to the people I spoke with at Tesla the problem isn t the after the fact help.. Really I shouldn t have had to take my car in (get it towed even) because of a failed update. So.. I m sure everybody wants to know what the problem was. Well it turns out that the service center suspects that the problem was poor WiFi connectivity. That s a pretty insane reason for it to fail if you ask me -- most people s wifi will be poor in their driveway garage. If this can cause failure rendering the car useless that s a terrrible design. I m still annoyed that it ate my Saturday for something that should never ever happen but at least I have my car back. Edit: Here s the original post https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9a8m47 awesome_weekend_with_a_brick_in_my_driveway | wickedsun | 2018-08-27 14:13:19 | 160 | e4x9apb | The real reason for the problem is they have no fucking idea. That s the truth. I was accused of letting my trip meter get too big and that caused all sorts of crazy problems. Uh huh. Glad you re back up and running. | NoYoureACatLady | 2018-08-27 16:25:44 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
o3oloa | [UPDATE] I am completely confused how this happened. It appeared in my car out of nowhere today. | This is an update to my post yesterday since it ended up getting a lot of feedback: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments o2tsly i_am_completely_confused_how_this_happened_it Mostly people pointing out that I have a sweaty ass. I swear it s my friend s sweaty ass. But no worries if you don t believe me I am only human and am sure I ve had my fair share of sweaty ass in the past too. Anyway on the advice of a few replies (thanks u joeljaeggli and u Valuesauce especially) I went to walmart and got a bunch of cleaner supplies. Leather cleaner rubbing alcohol baby wipes etc. But after an hour of trying and experimenting with all of these I was getting nowhere. And then my girlfriend suggested the most obviously thing: just get some hot water and soap and try that. Well I feel like an idiot because that worked perfectly. The ass sweat is gone. I now have 450 baby wipes (there was a sale) and enough leather cleaner to drown a zebra but the ass sweat is gone. I was driving happily into town this morning for a coffe though when this error started showing up: https: i.imgur.com DraxCIR.jpg > Front passenger safety restraint system fault I uh... may have gotten a little carried away with the cleaning and by the sounds of it got some water under the seat and broke it. On the bright side the white leather look great now and really is as easy to clean as Tesla claims... if you know the first thing about how to clean anything which I don t apparently. I have also told my friend he cant wear his shorts in the car. He thinks I m being paranoid. I didn t have the heart to tell him I suspect his ass sweat leaked into my seat and sent me into a tailspin trying to fix and eventually leading to me maybe water damaging the seat. | dont_forget_canada | 2021-06-19 20:03:56 | 129 | h2cxqk9 | Had the same error message on my M3. Service center took care of it in 20 minutes. | delays4dayz | 2021-06-19 20:33:09 | 60 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
o3oloa | [UPDATE] I am completely confused how this happened. It appeared in my car out of nowhere today. | This is an update to my post yesterday since it ended up getting a lot of feedback: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments o2tsly i_am_completely_confused_how_this_happened_it Mostly people pointing out that I have a sweaty ass. I swear it s my friend s sweaty ass. But no worries if you don t believe me I am only human and am sure I ve had my fair share of sweaty ass in the past too. Anyway on the advice of a few replies (thanks u joeljaeggli and u Valuesauce especially) I went to walmart and got a bunch of cleaner supplies. Leather cleaner rubbing alcohol baby wipes etc. But after an hour of trying and experimenting with all of these I was getting nowhere. And then my girlfriend suggested the most obviously thing: just get some hot water and soap and try that. Well I feel like an idiot because that worked perfectly. The ass sweat is gone. I now have 450 baby wipes (there was a sale) and enough leather cleaner to drown a zebra but the ass sweat is gone. I was driving happily into town this morning for a coffe though when this error started showing up: https: i.imgur.com DraxCIR.jpg > Front passenger safety restraint system fault I uh... may have gotten a little carried away with the cleaning and by the sounds of it got some water under the seat and broke it. On the bright side the white leather look great now and really is as easy to clean as Tesla claims... if you know the first thing about how to clean anything which I don t apparently. I have also told my friend he cant wear his shorts in the car. He thinks I m being paranoid. I didn t have the heart to tell him I suspect his ass sweat leaked into my seat and sent me into a tailspin trying to fix and eventually leading to me maybe water damaging the seat. | dont_forget_canada | 2021-06-19 20:03:56 | 129 | h2cvrxt | Damn. Did you drench the seat in soapy water? Get a service appointment but don t tell them anything about the piss stain or the watery adventures 😂 | QuadTheory | 2021-06-19 20:15:48 | 26 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
o3oloa | [UPDATE] I am completely confused how this happened. It appeared in my car out of nowhere today. | This is an update to my post yesterday since it ended up getting a lot of feedback: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments o2tsly i_am_completely_confused_how_this_happened_it Mostly people pointing out that I have a sweaty ass. I swear it s my friend s sweaty ass. But no worries if you don t believe me I am only human and am sure I ve had my fair share of sweaty ass in the past too. Anyway on the advice of a few replies (thanks u joeljaeggli and u Valuesauce especially) I went to walmart and got a bunch of cleaner supplies. Leather cleaner rubbing alcohol baby wipes etc. But after an hour of trying and experimenting with all of these I was getting nowhere. And then my girlfriend suggested the most obviously thing: just get some hot water and soap and try that. Well I feel like an idiot because that worked perfectly. The ass sweat is gone. I now have 450 baby wipes (there was a sale) and enough leather cleaner to drown a zebra but the ass sweat is gone. I was driving happily into town this morning for a coffe though when this error started showing up: https: i.imgur.com DraxCIR.jpg > Front passenger safety restraint system fault I uh... may have gotten a little carried away with the cleaning and by the sounds of it got some water under the seat and broke it. On the bright side the white leather look great now and really is as easy to clean as Tesla claims... if you know the first thing about how to clean anything which I don t apparently. I have also told my friend he cant wear his shorts in the car. He thinks I m being paranoid. I didn t have the heart to tell him I suspect his ass sweat leaked into my seat and sent me into a tailspin trying to fix and eventually leading to me maybe water damaging the seat. | dont_forget_canada | 2021-06-19 20:03:56 | 129 | h2cykd6 | Just had a mobile tech take care of the same problem in my June 2019 SR+…. They put a filter on the sensor. Apparently there s RF or EM interference near that sensor. Tech came to the house and 15-20mins later it was taken care of. I didn t bother the dude with questions just offered him some water and the restroom and he got to work. Schedule an appt and they ll fix it. | matsayz1 | 2021-06-19 20:40:31 | 21 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
o3oloa | [UPDATE] I am completely confused how this happened. It appeared in my car out of nowhere today. | This is an update to my post yesterday since it ended up getting a lot of feedback: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments o2tsly i_am_completely_confused_how_this_happened_it Mostly people pointing out that I have a sweaty ass. I swear it s my friend s sweaty ass. But no worries if you don t believe me I am only human and am sure I ve had my fair share of sweaty ass in the past too. Anyway on the advice of a few replies (thanks u joeljaeggli and u Valuesauce especially) I went to walmart and got a bunch of cleaner supplies. Leather cleaner rubbing alcohol baby wipes etc. But after an hour of trying and experimenting with all of these I was getting nowhere. And then my girlfriend suggested the most obviously thing: just get some hot water and soap and try that. Well I feel like an idiot because that worked perfectly. The ass sweat is gone. I now have 450 baby wipes (there was a sale) and enough leather cleaner to drown a zebra but the ass sweat is gone. I was driving happily into town this morning for a coffe though when this error started showing up: https: i.imgur.com DraxCIR.jpg > Front passenger safety restraint system fault I uh... may have gotten a little carried away with the cleaning and by the sounds of it got some water under the seat and broke it. On the bright side the white leather look great now and really is as easy to clean as Tesla claims... if you know the first thing about how to clean anything which I don t apparently. I have also told my friend he cant wear his shorts in the car. He thinks I m being paranoid. I didn t have the heart to tell him I suspect his ass sweat leaked into my seat and sent me into a tailspin trying to fix and eventually leading to me maybe water damaging the seat. | dont_forget_canada | 2021-06-19 20:03:56 | 129 | h2d5zd1 | This problem should be fixed in the next update 2021.45.8.9.451 \*Ass sweat Improvements | Piranha_ChuckNorris | 2021-06-19 21:46:49 | 11 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
o3oloa | [UPDATE] I am completely confused how this happened. It appeared in my car out of nowhere today. | This is an update to my post yesterday since it ended up getting a lot of feedback: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments o2tsly i_am_completely_confused_how_this_happened_it Mostly people pointing out that I have a sweaty ass. I swear it s my friend s sweaty ass. But no worries if you don t believe me I am only human and am sure I ve had my fair share of sweaty ass in the past too. Anyway on the advice of a few replies (thanks u joeljaeggli and u Valuesauce especially) I went to walmart and got a bunch of cleaner supplies. Leather cleaner rubbing alcohol baby wipes etc. But after an hour of trying and experimenting with all of these I was getting nowhere. And then my girlfriend suggested the most obviously thing: just get some hot water and soap and try that. Well I feel like an idiot because that worked perfectly. The ass sweat is gone. I now have 450 baby wipes (there was a sale) and enough leather cleaner to drown a zebra but the ass sweat is gone. I was driving happily into town this morning for a coffe though when this error started showing up: https: i.imgur.com DraxCIR.jpg > Front passenger safety restraint system fault I uh... may have gotten a little carried away with the cleaning and by the sounds of it got some water under the seat and broke it. On the bright side the white leather look great now and really is as easy to clean as Tesla claims... if you know the first thing about how to clean anything which I don t apparently. I have also told my friend he cant wear his shorts in the car. He thinks I m being paranoid. I didn t have the heart to tell him I suspect his ass sweat leaked into my seat and sent me into a tailspin trying to fix and eventually leading to me maybe water damaging the seat. | dont_forget_canada | 2021-06-19 20:03:56 | 129 | h2ddey0 | this looks like the weight sensor failed. its a fluid filled sensor that detects the additional pressure and converts it to an electrical signal. if it failed then it would leak a few ounces of mineral oil. | imskiven12 | 2021-06-19 22:56:35 | 8 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
o3oloa | [UPDATE] I am completely confused how this happened. It appeared in my car out of nowhere today. | This is an update to my post yesterday since it ended up getting a lot of feedback: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments o2tsly i_am_completely_confused_how_this_happened_it Mostly people pointing out that I have a sweaty ass. I swear it s my friend s sweaty ass. But no worries if you don t believe me I am only human and am sure I ve had my fair share of sweaty ass in the past too. Anyway on the advice of a few replies (thanks u joeljaeggli and u Valuesauce especially) I went to walmart and got a bunch of cleaner supplies. Leather cleaner rubbing alcohol baby wipes etc. But after an hour of trying and experimenting with all of these I was getting nowhere. And then my girlfriend suggested the most obviously thing: just get some hot water and soap and try that. Well I feel like an idiot because that worked perfectly. The ass sweat is gone. I now have 450 baby wipes (there was a sale) and enough leather cleaner to drown a zebra but the ass sweat is gone. I was driving happily into town this morning for a coffe though when this error started showing up: https: i.imgur.com DraxCIR.jpg > Front passenger safety restraint system fault I uh... may have gotten a little carried away with the cleaning and by the sounds of it got some water under the seat and broke it. On the bright side the white leather look great now and really is as easy to clean as Tesla claims... if you know the first thing about how to clean anything which I don t apparently. I have also told my friend he cant wear his shorts in the car. He thinks I m being paranoid. I didn t have the heart to tell him I suspect his ass sweat leaked into my seat and sent me into a tailspin trying to fix and eventually leading to me maybe water damaging the seat. | dont_forget_canada | 2021-06-19 20:03:56 | 129 | h2d18u8 | Judging by all the errors in the comments (from excessively sweaty ass) it seems the problem is growing out of control. We need to get this problem to Elon and expedite a fix asap. | seussiii | 2021-06-19 21:04:46 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
o3oloa | [UPDATE] I am completely confused how this happened. It appeared in my car out of nowhere today. | This is an update to my post yesterday since it ended up getting a lot of feedback: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments o2tsly i_am_completely_confused_how_this_happened_it Mostly people pointing out that I have a sweaty ass. I swear it s my friend s sweaty ass. But no worries if you don t believe me I am only human and am sure I ve had my fair share of sweaty ass in the past too. Anyway on the advice of a few replies (thanks u joeljaeggli and u Valuesauce especially) I went to walmart and got a bunch of cleaner supplies. Leather cleaner rubbing alcohol baby wipes etc. But after an hour of trying and experimenting with all of these I was getting nowhere. And then my girlfriend suggested the most obviously thing: just get some hot water and soap and try that. Well I feel like an idiot because that worked perfectly. The ass sweat is gone. I now have 450 baby wipes (there was a sale) and enough leather cleaner to drown a zebra but the ass sweat is gone. I was driving happily into town this morning for a coffe though when this error started showing up: https: i.imgur.com DraxCIR.jpg > Front passenger safety restraint system fault I uh... may have gotten a little carried away with the cleaning and by the sounds of it got some water under the seat and broke it. On the bright side the white leather look great now and really is as easy to clean as Tesla claims... if you know the first thing about how to clean anything which I don t apparently. I have also told my friend he cant wear his shorts in the car. He thinks I m being paranoid. I didn t have the heart to tell him I suspect his ass sweat leaked into my seat and sent me into a tailspin trying to fix and eventually leading to me maybe water damaging the seat. | dont_forget_canada | 2021-06-19 20:03:56 | 129 | h2d964i | I ve had the error from a leaky water bottle and wet bathing suit. Turned the seat heater on high for a while and it went away. | skyhighskyhigh | 2021-06-19 22:16:41 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
5wkioe | [UPDATE] Issue of unintended vehicle acceleration followed by complete stop. | This is an update to my 2016 Model S P90D suddenly accelerating then brakes engaged to complete stop all on its own followed by vehicle failure. [Here s a link to the first post.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 5wbnzn my_model_s_accelerated_a_bit_on_its_own_then_came ) I had my vehicle towed to a local service center early this morning as scheduled. Problem was identified as an internal failure of rear drive unit. It has been completely replaced with a new unit. Vehicle was returned to my residence and it s seemingly back to normal. [Here s a picture of invoice with itemization of repairs.](http: i.imgur.com n0E1qUM.jpg) Service advisor in charge of my repair does not know why vehicle didn t give any other warning messages other than the transmission indicators blinking red. He does not know why my vehicle suddenly accelerated. He s guessing my vehicle came to an abrupt stop because my rear drive unit failed and behaved as if accelerator wasn t applied thus regenerative brakes fully engaged until complete stop. Advisor reiterated the fact that they need to look at the rear drive unit internally to know for certain with each question I raised. It s dismaying to not receive a definitive cause of unintended acceleration and abrupt stop. Those of you with similar issues have your vehicle serviced and be wary in high speed. | SaltyRunback | 2017-02-28 00:07:26 | 120 | deas6p5 | Thanks for the update. Please let us know what the engineers say about the DU and acceleration when (or perhaps IF) you get an answer | dieabetic | 2017-02-28 00:09:50 | 14 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
74qf06 | [UPDATE] Negativity experience of buying CPO | A quick update to https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 73mgmm negativity_experience_of_buying_cpo After u jmc-at-tesla got involved Seneca at Tesla took charge of the situation and things moved very quickly. A loaner was delivered to me on Monday and the car with comprehensive checklist was delivered on Wednesday as promised. Not to mention constant update from Seneca. My CPO advisor Kyle personally delivered both the loaner and the car. Turnaround was heaven-and-earth difference. I ve been driving the car for a couple of days and it s all I imagined and more. I am pretty happy and satisfied with the results. Too bad it took a reddit post to expedite things and I was honestly quite surprised that many others had similar problems but what s important is that all the issues have been resolved and hopefully Tesla will continue to learn from mistakes and improve sales experiences. | jackdbristow | 2017-10-06 20:40:57 | 54 | do0d4x5 | Good thing is now we have the support section on the sidebar and there s an escalation method within Tesla s system. Hopefully these one off issues can be fixed before they become a shitstorm. | 110110 | 2017-10-06 21:15:44 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
74qf06 | [UPDATE] Negativity experience of buying CPO | A quick update to https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 73mgmm negativity_experience_of_buying_cpo After u jmc-at-tesla got involved Seneca at Tesla took charge of the situation and things moved very quickly. A loaner was delivered to me on Monday and the car with comprehensive checklist was delivered on Wednesday as promised. Not to mention constant update from Seneca. My CPO advisor Kyle personally delivered both the loaner and the car. Turnaround was heaven-and-earth difference. I ve been driving the car for a couple of days and it s all I imagined and more. I am pretty happy and satisfied with the results. Too bad it took a reddit post to expedite things and I was honestly quite surprised that many others had similar problems but what s important is that all the issues have been resolved and hopefully Tesla will continue to learn from mistakes and improve sales experiences. | jackdbristow | 2017-10-06 20:40:57 | 54 | do1azw8 | What does it tell you about Tesla that you have to escalate to uppermost executive management like Jon McNeill to have them do the right thing? Jon is a rockstar but how long can he keep fixing these problems on a personal level? He also took care of their screw up with my defective delivery but there s not enough of him to go around. Executives are there to drive the company strategy - if they are constantly redirecting focus to customer issues and complaints how can they do their job effectively? Who on earth thought the escalation option would be a viable system and why has it gotten to this point? | LeakyFish | 2017-10-07 14:39:14 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjzb3bv | Cool by me. Especially if I can buy a reasonably priced CCS adapter for my Tesla. More charging infrastructure is a win for all EVa. | Constant-Tutor7785 | 2021-11-09 20:34:10 | 202 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjyxzlv | Sucks cause Tesla makes the best connector by far | MidnightRider3000 | 2021-11-09 19:07:16 | 147 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjyujl3 | Well Tesla will have accountants telling if those subsidies are worth it. | 404_Gordon_Not_Found | 2021-11-09 18:44:30 | 88 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjz5l22 | Note that it does not say they cannot have propriety connectors just that non-proprietary connectors must be provided. And fortunately it is not particularly difficult to provide both. It does cost money but it also brings in more revenue with a wider potential customer base. | ReyTheRed | 2021-11-09 19:57:35 | 58 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjyxf8p | Tesla just needs to start building new chargers with longer cables and CCS. Keep the current supercharger Network Tesla Only but every new charger going forward a mix of Tesla CCS | ferrarienz00 | 2021-11-09 19:03:39 | 46 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjyuv8m | so just like China and Europe... [https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Type\_2\_connector](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Type_2_connector) & #x200B the US is not blazing any kind of trail here.. we still ride the little diesel bus to school. you cannot deploy charging at this scale and not have a standard. & #x200B ABB installs 1 600 AC chargers at Chinese housing development [https: chargedevs.com newswire abb-installs-1600-ac-chargers-at-chinese-housing-development ](https: chargedevs.com newswire abb-installs-1600-ac-chargers-at-chinese-housing-development ) & #x200B are US car manufacturers talking? & #x200B https: en.wikipedia.org wiki IONITY It s a joint venture founded by the **BMW Group Daimler AG Ford Motor Company and Volkswagen Group ** but other automotive manufacturers are invited to help expand the network. | reddit455 | 2021-11-09 18:46:39 | 19 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjzk316 | Good. It s time for Tesla to just switch to CCS in the US. The connector is a bit worse but in the end it really doesn t matter. | petard | 2021-11-09 21:33:29 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hk14bv1 | Can t Tesla just open-source their connectors and technically they won t be proprietary anymore? And accept all payment methods inside the Tesla app (visa Mastercard AMEX) and call it a day? | themindspeaks | 2021-11-10 04:35:07 | 12 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjzy9sy | Couldn t Tesla just make their charging port non-proprietary? | soapinmouth | 2021-11-09 23:11:10 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hk08pwz | #DeathToProprietaryConnectors Looking at you Apple! | Fenix_Volatilis | 2021-11-10 00:28:32 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjzor3y | Hypothetical question since this is absurd but what if Tesla added CCS Combo2 connectors instead to make it non-proprietary instead? Funny enough that s what happened in Taiwan when they were forced to change instead of making CCS Combo 1 cars and superchargers. Based on my understanding they couldn t go the adapter route (ala South Korea) because the inlet had to be of certain standards if I understand it correctly. https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments ofnxf4 tesla_taiwan_to_import_ccs2_only_starting_q3_2021 | overthereanywhere | 2021-11-09 22:04:51 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qq9n4z | [US] Infrastructure Bill requires (1) non-proprietary charging connectors and (2) open access to payment methods [...] not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider to be eligible for federal funding. | (s) Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.-- (1) Standards.--Electric vehicle charging infrastructure installed using funds provided under this title shall provide at a minimum-- (A) non-proprietary charging connectors that meet applicable industry safety standards and (B) open access to payment methods that are available to all members of the public to ensure secure convenient and equal access to the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that shall not be limited by membership to a particular payment provider. (2) Treatment of projects.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law a project to install electric vehicle charging infrastructure using funds provided under this title shall be treated as if the project is located on a Federal-aid highway. . https: www.congress.gov bill 117th-congress house-bill 3684 text | mockingbird- | 2021-11-09 18:12:53 | 569 | hjzxxar | It s a good idea. I foresee Tesla moving to CCS in the USA eventually. The Tesla connector was a good idea at the time as fast DC charging was not really a thing but CCS is a worthy successor. It is bulkier but sexiness is hardly a significant factor when it comes to infrastructure. | tomoldbury | 2021-11-09 23:08:39 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
bwbkei | [US] PSA: You only have 30 days after signing the MVPA to opt out of Arbitration. | With the upcoming influx of new Tesla owners I figured it would be a good thing to remind everyone that they can opt out of Arbitration. On page 2 of the [Motor Vehicle Purchase Agreement](https: www.tesla.com order download--agreement?country=US) you have 30 days after signing to send written notice to: > Tesla Inc > PO BOX 15430 > Fremont CA 94539-7970 You have to include your name and VIN. Deciding to opt out of Arbitration is an individual decision. I personally chose to opt out. | amagicfro | 2019-06-03 14:54:52 | 56 | epwooci | Everyone one should opt out. | hammergaidin | 2019-06-03 16:56:54 | 9 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
bwbkei | [US] PSA: You only have 30 days after signing the MVPA to opt out of Arbitration. | With the upcoming influx of new Tesla owners I figured it would be a good thing to remind everyone that they can opt out of Arbitration. On page 2 of the [Motor Vehicle Purchase Agreement](https: www.tesla.com order download--agreement?country=US) you have 30 days after signing to send written notice to: > Tesla Inc > PO BOX 15430 > Fremont CA 94539-7970 You have to include your name and VIN. Deciding to opt out of Arbitration is an individual decision. I personally chose to opt out. | amagicfro | 2019-06-03 14:54:52 | 56 | epwg0xj | What are we talking about exactly? | Crazey4wwe | 2019-06-03 15:15:04 | 8 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
6q0j4c | [Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | Teslathrowaway1906 | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | dktmipk | It wouldn t surprise me. Tesla will undoubtedly sell a lot more FSD upgrades to people configuring their Model 3 if they know they ll get something out of it right now as opposed to a wink and a nod that they ll get it soon. | LouBrown | 2017-07-28 01:32:47 | 61 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
6q0j4c | [Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | Teslathrowaway1906 | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | dktn00s | [Ok I was at the Rosewood for lunch...](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=mVWid90Wwxs& feature=youtu.be& t=18s) | HellsNels | 2017-07-28 01:43:21 | 22 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
6q0j4c | [Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | Teslathrowaway1906 | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | dktmeuw | plausible | run-the-joules | 2017-07-28 01:30:27 | 18 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
6q0j4c | [Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | Teslathrowaway1906 | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | dktnvh7 | Granted unconfirmed but I was thinking there would be some sort of FSD announcement on friday. They have been presumably been working on lights and stop signs since before the HW2 announcement. Likely in parallel to the parts they had to reverse engineer from mobileeye. Stopping at reds and signs seems like a good first step. Leveraging autopilot also makes sense since it signifies the driver must take over on failure just like they have to on a steep curve now. Starting again requires a lot more cameras and recognition. Plus the driver may want to turn so that also requires more problem solving. I suppose it makes sense why it wouldn t start on its own. Edit: grammar | lundjordan | 2017-07-28 02:02:52 | 16 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
6q0j4c | [Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | Teslathrowaway1906 | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | dktn91q | Seems like redlights and stopsigns should be EAP. The FSD should be turns and following navi from A to B. | AutomatedBootstraps | 2017-07-28 01:49:01 | 12 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
6q0j4c | [Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | Teslathrowaway1906 | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | dktrcvo | This is just mild enough to be believable even if posted from a brand new account. Clever girl. | venture70 | 2017-07-28 03:23:16 | 11 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
6q0j4c | [Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | Teslathrowaway1906 | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | dktq3du | ###& #009 ######& #009 ####& #009 Acronyms initialisms abbreviations contractions and other phrases which expand to something larger that I ve seen in this thread: |Fewer Letters|More Letters| |-------|---------|---| |[AP]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dkvcdi2 Last usage )|AutoPilot (semi-autonomous vehicle control)| |[AP1]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dkuh8zw Last usage )|AutoPilot v1 semi-autonomous vehicle control (in cars built before 2016-10-19)| |[AP2]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dkuh8zw Last usage )|AutoPilot v2 Enhanced Autopilot full autonomy (in cars built after 2016-10-19) [in development]| |[DC]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dktu8sm Last usage )|Direct Current| |[EAP]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dkvc43a Last usage )|Enhanced Autopilot see AP2| |[FSD]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dkvc43a Last usage )|Fully Self Autonomous Driving see AP2| |[HW1]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dkv6y8k Last usage )|Vehicle hardware capable of supporting AutoPilot v1 (see TACC)| |[HW2]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dkv6y8k Last usage )|Vehicle hardware capable of supporting AutoPilot v2 (Enhanced AutoPilot full autonomy)| |[P85D]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dkv6y8k Last usage )|85kWh battery dual motors performance upgrades| |[TACC]( r TeslaMotors comments 6q0j4c dktnoey Last usage )|Traffic-Aware Cruise Control (see AP)| ---------------- ^(10 acronyms in this thread )[^the ^most ^compressed ^thread ^commented ^on ^today]( r TeslaMotors comments 6maygo)^( has 37 acronyms.) ^([Thread #1969 for this sub first seen 28th Jul 2017 02:53]) [^\[FAQ\]](http: decronym.xyz ) [^\[Contact\]](https: reddit.com message compose?to=OrangeredStilton& subject=Hey +your+acronym+bot+sucks) [^\[Source ^code\]](https: gist.github.com Two9A 1d976f9b7441694162c8) | Decronym | 2017-07-28 02:53:23 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
6q0j4c | [Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | Teslathrowaway1906 | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | dktnqt0 | but will the model3 make the jetsons sound effect while moving? | xXx_burgerking69_xXx | 2017-07-28 01:59:58 | 7 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
6q0j4c | [Unconfirmed employee boast] First FSD-specific feature coming tomorrow | Loose lips celebrating a bit too much and a bit prematurely this afternoon at the Rosewood SH slipped the following boast into conversation at the long bar: Enhanced autopilot will stop at stop signs and red lights on FSD-enabled cars. Driver will need to hit the accelerator to resume but the car will now stop itself. Take with a grain of salt but if it comes true you heard it here first. | Teslathrowaway1906 | 2017-07-28 01:17:28 | 186 | dktmplo | Does that also imply AP will work outside highways? | zmarty | 2017-07-28 01:36:59 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
3u51h7 | [Update] 92 destination-charger locations added today. Now over 1000 in the US. | USA: 1028 Canada: 213 Worldwide added in 2015: 1337 Worldwide total: 1837 So far it seems that Tesla adds a bunch of chargers once a month. If there is interrest I will continue to collect data about this and give regular updates when important enough. & nbsp Data table: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 3qrag1 how_fast_are_destination_chargers_added Data source: https: www.teslamotors.com findus list Official page: https: www.teslamotors.com destination-charging | Arxcis | 2015-11-24 22:43:12 | 41 | cxbyfxb | I wish there was a regular policy that would let me just pay to use a destination charger even if I wasn t a patron of that establishment. The likelihood of the one hotel in an area that has destination charging being the one I want to stay at is very low. However I would happily compensate them for a charge. | ViperRT10Matt | 2015-11-24 22:56:00 | 11 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
3u51h7 | [Update] 92 destination-charger locations added today. Now over 1000 in the US. | USA: 1028 Canada: 213 Worldwide added in 2015: 1337 Worldwide total: 1837 So far it seems that Tesla adds a bunch of chargers once a month. If there is interrest I will continue to collect data about this and give regular updates when important enough. & nbsp Data table: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 3qrag1 how_fast_are_destination_chargers_added Data source: https: www.teslamotors.com findus list Official page: https: www.teslamotors.com destination-charging | Arxcis | 2015-11-24 22:43:12 | 41 | cxc88bb | Amazingly enough the number should be even higher! I ve been to several places that had free Tesla HPWCs that are not on Tesla s destination charging map. | EatMoarToads | 2015-11-25 03:54:40 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ldso4o | [Update] Does it make sense to buy used? | Hi everyone. A few days ago I made a post regarding the financial difference between a used 2019 m3 vs a new 2021 m3. Y all gave me plenty of great advice. We went to our scheduled test drive and ended up going .... wait for .... a New Tesla Y AWD sans FSD. We didn t get a lot of time to try it out but from our brief trial it wasn t worth the 10k. Maybe one day if I have a ton of money to throw at it. They had a few units exactly the way we wanted in an upcoming shipment. I m honestly really surprised that we went with the model Y. I knew it existed but really had my heart set on a 3 and hadn t even considered it. We test drove it on a whim since it was there. I still like the three more and would have gotten a 3AWD-P but the Y seemed more functional. Plus my s o really preferred the Y. Thanks again. | what_an_ass | 2021-02-06 07:47:56 | 43 | gm7uo42 | Yeah I would have bought the 3 but timing worked out and I jumped into a Y last august. I like the looks and handling more of the 3 but the Y is just way more functional. | reclinesalot | 2021-02-06 09:42:10 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ldso4o | [Update] Does it make sense to buy used? | Hi everyone. A few days ago I made a post regarding the financial difference between a used 2019 m3 vs a new 2021 m3. Y all gave me plenty of great advice. We went to our scheduled test drive and ended up going .... wait for .... a New Tesla Y AWD sans FSD. We didn t get a lot of time to try it out but from our brief trial it wasn t worth the 10k. Maybe one day if I have a ton of money to throw at it. They had a few units exactly the way we wanted in an upcoming shipment. I m honestly really surprised that we went with the model Y. I knew it existed but really had my heart set on a 3 and hadn t even considered it. We test drove it on a whim since it was there. I still like the three more and would have gotten a 3AWD-P but the Y seemed more functional. Plus my s o really preferred the Y. Thanks again. | what_an_ass | 2021-02-06 07:47:56 | 43 | gm883m4 | Did I write this? I literally went in set on a 3 and not too interested in a Y. Drove both other half was meh on the 3 and loved the Y naturally we compromised and got a Y. Love the car and after having it a few months am very glad to have all the extra space. I don t think you will regret not getting FSD it isn t worth $10k today I d have a hard time with $10k even if it could run errands for me. | tqdrivenws6 | 2021-02-06 13:15:27 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ldso4o | [Update] Does it make sense to buy used? | Hi everyone. A few days ago I made a post regarding the financial difference between a used 2019 m3 vs a new 2021 m3. Y all gave me plenty of great advice. We went to our scheduled test drive and ended up going .... wait for .... a New Tesla Y AWD sans FSD. We didn t get a lot of time to try it out but from our brief trial it wasn t worth the 10k. Maybe one day if I have a ton of money to throw at it. They had a few units exactly the way we wanted in an upcoming shipment. I m honestly really surprised that we went with the model Y. I knew it existed but really had my heart set on a 3 and hadn t even considered it. We test drove it on a whim since it was there. I still like the three more and would have gotten a 3AWD-P but the Y seemed more functional. Plus my s o really preferred the Y. Thanks again. | what_an_ass | 2021-02-06 07:47:56 | 43 | gm81jhk | Holler if you want to trade for a model 3. | Old_S_Throwaway | 2021-02-06 11:40:27 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
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