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7e5133 | [semi] Tesla RV | stretch the semi chassis and build a RV on it. you ll have a 40 000 pound vehicle(with all the water people etc) that can go over 500 miles per charge. it will also have plenty of battery power to run all the hotel loads so you can camp in places with out hook ups or have to run a generator. you could cover the roof in solar panels for a couple kilowatts of charging. RV camp ground electrical hookups have a 240v 50 amp socket to plug into. The RV campground electrical hookups turn any rv camp site into a place where a tesla semi could park for mandated rest period. | sl600rt | 2017-11-20 00:56:19 | 73 | dq2mi6s | Here is the Tesla Pickup Overland Edition https: imgur.com yLRI12W | mrdudeomondo | 2017-11-20 02:23:29 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7e5133 | [semi] Tesla RV | stretch the semi chassis and build a RV on it. you ll have a 40 000 pound vehicle(with all the water people etc) that can go over 500 miles per charge. it will also have plenty of battery power to run all the hotel loads so you can camp in places with out hook ups or have to run a generator. you could cover the roof in solar panels for a couple kilowatts of charging. RV camp ground electrical hookups have a 240v 50 amp socket to plug into. The RV campground electrical hookups turn any rv camp site into a place where a tesla semi could park for mandated rest period. | sl600rt | 2017-11-20 00:56:19 | 73 | dq2op5f | Oh God yes! Most of the ideas I have seen miss the point though for crying out loud give it the sort of flat floor the S model has! You can have the frigging motors right at the axle why have a high floor? OK if you want an overlander 4 x 4 then extra ground clearance might make sense but do it with an air jacking system. Otherwise keep the floor low so you can get a standing room but still get the thing into regular car parks and garages. Workhorse just announced an electric van that s starting to look like the right idea and their pickup is already planned to have sockets for power tools so some of the thinking is going the right way. I just found out about a thing from Purolator and Unicell called the Curbsider *that* looked interesting but seems to have disappeared. | shaggy99 | 2017-11-20 03:03:48 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5f8gvs | [shitpost] I had a dream last night that I took delivery of my Model 3 | It was incredible. I had picked it up from the Tesla store and after the guy gave me a brief rundown I drove it around the parking lot for a minute then parked and giddily started looking through all the menus on the touchscreen. Later I took it on a back road and floored it and it was quite exciting indeed. Then I woke up and realized I still had to sputter around in my ICE car for another 18+ months. The struggle is real. EDIT: I dreamed about the Model 3 again last night. Every time I left the house someone had moved it to a different spot in the driveway and I was pretty mad because I didn t want anyone else driving it. It appeared the same as the silver one shown at the unveiling. Later I was driving at completely ludicrous speeds on the highway. I lost control hit a ramp and soared hundreds of feet into the air sailing over an entire airport and landing in an Indian burial ground. The car suffered only a few scratches and a cracked windshield. I was then chased off on foot by wildebeests. | EventHorizon5 | 2016-11-28 00:06:04 | 27 | daidine | Next time please pay close attention to the steering wheel and display area. I am still wondering why it would feel like a spaceship. | Bobsky2 | 2016-11-28 01:35:34 | 13 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
5f8gvs | [shitpost] I had a dream last night that I took delivery of my Model 3 | It was incredible. I had picked it up from the Tesla store and after the guy gave me a brief rundown I drove it around the parking lot for a minute then parked and giddily started looking through all the menus on the touchscreen. Later I took it on a back road and floored it and it was quite exciting indeed. Then I woke up and realized I still had to sputter around in my ICE car for another 18+ months. The struggle is real. EDIT: I dreamed about the Model 3 again last night. Every time I left the house someone had moved it to a different spot in the driveway and I was pretty mad because I didn t want anyone else driving it. It appeared the same as the silver one shown at the unveiling. Later I was driving at completely ludicrous speeds on the highway. I lost control hit a ramp and soared hundreds of feet into the air sailing over an entire airport and landing in an Indian burial ground. The car suffered only a few scratches and a cracked windshield. I was then chased off on foot by wildebeests. | EventHorizon5 | 2016-11-28 00:06:04 | 27 | daicwht | Did it have a HUD? | Dr_Pippin | 2016-11-28 01:21:14 | 9 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
ax06st | [speculation] Model Y production to begin way sooner than we expect | With the news of the announcement and information gathered from the Q4 conference call I firmly believe Tesla is going to be able to get the production lines for the Y moving way quicker than previously estimated. As they ve said car is done and will be giving test rides on the 14th and the tooling and mfg lines are being set up at GF1 as we speak. Capitalizing on what they ve learned from the 3 ramp I really think we ll see deliveries as early as late summer ‘19. Thoughts? | kurthepilot | 2019-03-03 23:41:02 | 48 | ehqdi4d | I think they said low volume production will start early 2020 and ramping later that year. Anything earlier would be crazy and I don t think that will happen. | Teslaninja | 2019-03-03 23:46:35 | 37 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ax06st | [speculation] Model Y production to begin way sooner than we expect | With the news of the announcement and information gathered from the Q4 conference call I firmly believe Tesla is going to be able to get the production lines for the Y moving way quicker than previously estimated. As they ve said car is done and will be giving test rides on the 14th and the tooling and mfg lines are being set up at GF1 as we speak. Capitalizing on what they ve learned from the 3 ramp I really think we ll see deliveries as early as late summer ‘19. Thoughts? | kurthepilot | 2019-03-03 23:41:02 | 48 | ehqgww5 | In some way Model Y production started when Model 3 production started. If I understand it correctly most Model Y parts are already being built for Model 3. Motors battery packs seats you name it. What is needed is an assembly line maybe that is what the Lathrop facility will be used for? | Archimid | 2019-03-04 00:33:50 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ax06st | [speculation] Model Y production to begin way sooner than we expect | With the news of the announcement and information gathered from the Q4 conference call I firmly believe Tesla is going to be able to get the production lines for the Y moving way quicker than previously estimated. As they ve said car is done and will be giving test rides on the 14th and the tooling and mfg lines are being set up at GF1 as we speak. Capitalizing on what they ve learned from the 3 ramp I really think we ll see deliveries as early as late summer ‘19. Thoughts? | kurthepilot | 2019-03-03 23:41:02 | 48 | ehqeurj | Hoping he actually under promises and they overdeliver. Lofty goals are good but the market adds so much FUD if a timeline moves by 3-6 months. Just add some buffer time in there. | TeslaModel11 | 2019-03-04 00:05:14 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ax06st | [speculation] Model Y production to begin way sooner than we expect | With the news of the announcement and information gathered from the Q4 conference call I firmly believe Tesla is going to be able to get the production lines for the Y moving way quicker than previously estimated. As they ve said car is done and will be giving test rides on the 14th and the tooling and mfg lines are being set up at GF1 as we speak. Capitalizing on what they ve learned from the 3 ramp I really think we ll see deliveries as early as late summer ‘19. Thoughts? | kurthepilot | 2019-03-03 23:41:02 | 48 | ehqgd5o | TL DR Initial deliveries Q1 2020. They said they were ordering tooling during the Q4 call so that s probably a hint that they re 6 months from that tooling being delivered to them. My hunch is that the Model Y reveal will be like the second Model 3 reveal where they gave rides. That was about 2 years ago and I think you re right that Tesla has learned to not try wacky things when it comes to production. I m holding firm on my estimate that Q1 2020 will be the initial deliveries to employees and family then reservation customers on the US west coast and so on. | drdabbles | 2019-03-04 00:26:15 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ax06st | [speculation] Model Y production to begin way sooner than we expect | With the news of the announcement and information gathered from the Q4 conference call I firmly believe Tesla is going to be able to get the production lines for the Y moving way quicker than previously estimated. As they ve said car is done and will be giving test rides on the 14th and the tooling and mfg lines are being set up at GF1 as we speak. Capitalizing on what they ve learned from the 3 ramp I really think we ll see deliveries as early as late summer ‘19. Thoughts? | kurthepilot | 2019-03-03 23:41:02 | 48 | ehqgbvx | I have a cousin that works at Gigafactory. If it s made there we should see lines popping up soon to test production. | therendevouswithfish | 2019-03-04 00:25:46 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
3oo3yq | a c functionality and air conditioned seats | I m very interested in getting a new tesla as soon as my lease is up but I live in Dallas and I m a bit concerned about the a c. I have air conditioned seats here and I was actually using this today It was still 93 here today. Last summer I believe we had a run of 97 days in a row over a 100 degrees and something like 14 days of over 105 degrees. Hell hot is what I call it. So can I remote start and cool down the car and i can find no mention so I must assume that air conditioned seats do not exist. Final question is the temp of the air great ridiculously cold or ludicrously cold or just cool :) thanks | guy999 | 2015-10-14 02:14:24 | 15 | cvyykw4 | Model S does not have it but AC seats were announced for Model X. | skiesforme | 2015-10-14 02:25:04 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
3oo3yq | a c functionality and air conditioned seats | I m very interested in getting a new tesla as soon as my lease is up but I live in Dallas and I m a bit concerned about the a c. I have air conditioned seats here and I was actually using this today It was still 93 here today. Last summer I believe we had a run of 97 days in a row over a 100 degrees and something like 14 days of over 105 degrees. Hell hot is what I call it. So can I remote start and cool down the car and i can find no mention so I must assume that air conditioned seats do not exist. Final question is the temp of the air great ridiculously cold or ludicrously cold or just cool :) thanks | guy999 | 2015-10-14 02:14:24 | 15 | cvyyw2v | As far as how well the AC works I think it works great. There have been discussions about the AC not cooling the second row (and especially the third row if you had it) as well as it should but I ve been very satisfied with how cold it blows. I m not in as hot of a climate though it does top 100 here from time to time. I d recommend searching teslamotorsclub.com there are a number of threads about the AC. Here is one: http: www.teslamotorsclub.com showthread.php 48653-How-s-your-AC | rabidchinchilla | 2015-10-14 02:33:36 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djb8e8k | It s your toy enjoy it. Sounds like a nice conversation starter. Also most people have no idea that your car exists. They are likely staring out of amazement not because they think you are a stuck up jerk for having it. Maybe leave a little junk laying around to ease your friend s anxiety a little haha. So it doesn t come off so... untouchable. | Boblles | 2017-06-23 20:00:00 | 116 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djb7yk4 | Not that I don t see your point but I think this might be the dictionary definition of a first world problem. :P | vita10gy | 2017-06-23 19:51:55 | 69 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djbb2sv | This has zero to do with the car. I has to do with the price. Of course anyone who knows what a Tesla costs i going to look at you differently for being able to afford one. You also have to realize that by appreciating Tesla for what it is you are a geek in a way. Most people simply don t give a crap how their car works or what kind it is. They just want to get in push a pedal and turn the wheel and get out. You d likely get the same reaction if you show somebody a $5000 computer with SLI graphics cards and they d just think fucker spent 5 months rent on video games. I am afraid it s just something you ll have to live with. | tesla123456 | 2017-06-23 20:51:16 | 61 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djb8d55 | I ve experienced this as well - occasionally I feel like a schmuck for spending this much money on a car (especially when thinking about what good could be done with it). At the end of the day you only get 1 go round and I think it s more important to enjoy life while you can. That doesn t mean you re being a pretentious douche or a selfish a-hole there s all kinds of ways to contribute to others that don t involve money. | Ash-Housewares | 2017-06-23 19:59:27 | 54 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djb7ni6 | Probably going to get downvoted for this but this is why I hope the Y doesn t have falcon doors. | Athabascad | 2017-06-23 19:46:16 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djb8mt6 | Worried about the same thing to some degree. And it was part of my hesitation to fall prey to the 3 anti-sell and jump to putting a deposit on an inventory 90D this morning. It was the last discounted inventory model optioned the way we wanted... and it it s red. I know there will be no hiding the fact that I drive a car within my means - but certainly fancier than anything on the block. I m worried the red will just flaunt it more. It will be noticed at preschool drop-off. And I m generally someone who would rather go unnoticed in a crowd. But - part of the reason and even benefit I see to buy in now is to help spread the word and demystify normalize EVs. So I intend to drive it - as you stated - as a big middle finger to the industry in general - and use every opportunity to educate those that are curious. No point in trying to hide it ) . With tax and financing incentives gas savings etc. it s not much of stretch over the s4 A6 3-5 series my coworkers drive. And the more of us that drive them - the more normal it will become. I say embrace it. | tadslippy | 2017-06-23 20:04:33 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djbb98s | The part where your wife walked up to her friends parking the car away shows some internal struggle. A car should never stress someone out and I know how it feels to be self conscious but she needs to let herself know that that s an irrational fear. You are both good people and that much is certain from your post. Don t be self concious You deserve it-and for the friends who don t have it.. a car will not complete your life or happiness so don t worry about your friends they aren t lacking just because they don t have a Tesla | [deleted] | 2017-06-23 20:54:43 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djbbxs6 | I understand where you re coming from. I drive a Model S which isn t quite as ostentatious. The Model X Falcon Wing Doors do make it stand out. Sometimes I get looks. I don t mind it if people are decent about it. I worked hard for the financial security to have this car that I love very much and if other people have opinions about that well that s on them. I didn t buy it for them. I don t mind the showiness. It s damned cool. But I don t like the showiness for the sake of look how great I am but instead look how cool this thing is! People have questions? I ll take the time to answer them. It s a neat thing and I m happy to share it or explain it to anyone who s interested. I always point out that they re available used and the prices are coming down all the time. I admit I do like the way the car makes me feel. It s visceral. I ve described driving a Model S as moving through traffic like a shark over a reef and I mean that. But I don t own or drive it because of what other people think of me. I already know I m not an attractive man and I m happy to have a wife who disagrees with that assessment. Perhaps she had an early childhood injury but I m happy with the outcome. I m not driving this car to make myself more desirable to anyone but myself. Now ask yourself: Why do you think people are uncomfortable about the vehicle? | majesticjg | 2017-06-23 21:08:12 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djb9dj4 | I say enjoy it while it lasts. Around here people have stop being gobsmacked when I open my good and start loading groceries into what they think is the engine compartment. | mikeash | 2017-06-23 20:18:35 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djbkh95 | I m all over the place with these same issues. I have a Model S and I will let anybody (and I pretty much mean anybody) take it for a short spin. I ve had co-workers that were interested in driving it but nervous because of the cost of the car. In those cases I just downplay it with it s just a car (although they usually come back with yeah a $7x xxxx car! ) Other times I honestly play it up. One time my wife and I decided to go to Denny s for lunch. I then jokingly asked her Are we even allowed to park this at a Denny s? I do wonder sometimes if people make assumptions about me based on my car. I ll sometimes pull into a drive-in and wonder Is this person going to assume I m a jerk because of the car? At the end of the day though I guess I ve hit a point in my life where those types of things don t concern me too much. If they think I m a stuck up rich asshole because of my car and choose to leave it at that that s their problem not mine. If they want to get to know me better and find out that I m a pretty down-to-earth not-very-rich asshole then that s great. At the end of the day I saw enjoy your awesome car share it with the people that are interested and don t worry about the rest. That s what I try to do and it s worked out pretty well for me so far. | Mind_Voyager | 2017-06-24 00:10:55 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djbrd1a | I ve always been frugal about cars. The most I have ever spent on a car $11 900 brand new. And I ve been driving that one for almost 10 years with no plans to replace. I don t really want to be seen as someone driving a flashy car. A nice car perhaps but I m too old to want a chromed out Lambo or something silly like that. I have a buddy that works for ExxonMobile. I was giving him a hard time for killing me and the planet and my future kids. And he told me I was a hypocrite because I m just the mouth that eats the shit he sells. (Good naturedly - been friends for ever). And I was like - you re right ending our reliance on fossil fuels has to start with the consumer and I can make that leap so I should. No one will sell things that no one is buying so I m going to stop buying. I pulled the trigger on my S the day Trump was inaugurated. As a side note the S is the best car I have ever driven and would 100% buy it from a technology perspective and love for the car even if there were no external considerations. I sometimes will park where people will see the car. And I sometimes park where it won t be as noticeable. Depends on the place and time. | lmaccaro | 2017-06-24 02:46:48 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djbeugr | > Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. I m confused. If you don t want to draw attention to the vehicle why are you intentionally drawing attention to the vehicle? | somewhat_pragmatic | 2017-06-23 22:07:51 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djb7pib | Welcome to the good life. :) This feeling you are having is one of many more yet to come. It s important to not let it change you for the worse stay grounded and enjoy what you ve been blessed to experience. If people start changing around you e.g. asking for money becoming over saturatedly friendly be cautious and don t be too generous. | IfYouReadThisGildMe | 2017-06-23 19:47:16 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djb942c | I still haven t told my extended family that we ve gotten a (CPO) Model S. We re doing better than most of the rest of the family though not hugely better and letting them know we got a Tesla would almost be like telling them we got a Rolls Royce or a lambo. I m not that close with my family and just don t want to deal with the petty funny constant rich jokes and insinuations. I live in another country from them so it s not hard to keep the secret but it feels weird and lame to feel like I can t share my successes with them. | PorkRindSalad | 2017-06-23 20:13:36 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djbafvm | New X owner from inside your hometown. Gotta say its easier to blend in with the X when some kid roars by in his N-lambo. Just roll with it the hype will always die down and you ll still have an amazing car. Here s waiting for the model 3! X is way too huge. | username868 | 2017-06-23 20:38:57 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j3hqt | a downside to ownership I did not anticipate | disclaimer: I know how this is going to sound to some and it will likely be frustrating. I know that because I too debate it myself. However I doubt I am alone and it may be appreciated by some potential and current owners. First of all our 2017 X is amazing. Like incredible. It is a big middle finger to the glacier moving bloated bureaucratic auto industry. The handling performance cargo and interior space OTA updates giant display and mobile app is enjoyable to use everyday. There are new details that bring a smile to your face even months after purchase. And I haven t even mentioned Autopilot yet and the prospect of FSD. Mind blowing stuff. To give some context before I explain this post we are a young family of 3 + 1 giant dog. The model3 would not have worked. Both myself and my wife have salaries that fortunately have allowed us to put a down payment on a rancher outside my home town Vancouver Canada because Van prices were too ridiculous. We max out our registered retirement savings account allowances (401k equivalent to the US folks?) and have no debts aside from our mortgage. Saying that it s still a lot of debt and we have only been saving for a few years so lots of exposed risk. Purchasing a depreciating luxury vehicle was a 2 year decision. When we purchased we traded in our only car a 2013 Ford Escape. In other words we upped what we were willing to spend on a vehicle by 4x without much salary increase over the same time period. I guess that s the power of Tesla to us anyway. So with that out of the way there is one thing that occasionally creeps up and spoils the experience once in a while: the elitism and showiness it puts off. This is where some will think Come on man! You bought a 100k car what did you expect!? . While others will say Oh poor you that must be awful! in a sarcastic voice. And both camps are absolutely right to judge. I guess I just didn t really envision ownership enough in certain instances. For example when a friend sits inside afraid to touch anything and says pretty fancy Jordan because they just see exterior and interior luxury rather than a long range giving battery pack traditional electric motor or AI driven autopilot. Or when I grab my baby out of the back with those falcon wing doors spread wide open at my local store and everyone stops stares and doesn t move until I walk away from the scene. Or when I explain to my parents what an easter egg is by showing the Xmas show and rather than being amazed at how a company devotes effort to hide little surprises in their software everyone gets a little embarrassed that the car is flapping its wings and pumping music down my quiet street. What ultimately motivated me to write this post was only finding out yesterday that my wife was meeting some new people last week who formed a hiking group while on pat leave and instead of pulling up to the parking lot to meet them she parked down the street and walked up instead! I would like to finish where I started. We do not regret our purchase. We commute to the city regularly and rather than dread the commute now we look forward to it. The vehicle is incredible and we are fortunate to have one. We should be only taking into consideration what our family friends and community think but not let it drive our emotions or opinion. But forgive me I am but an imperfect human. And yes this isn t a big deal it was just something I didn t expect. Thanks for listening! | lundjordan | 2017-06-23 19:32:17 | 389 | djbclms | I uhh... know exactly how you feel. Recently picked up a new S and I need to pick up my girlfriend today. She told me I should wait for her a few blocks down so that her work friends won t see her driving away in a Tesla... | Warguyver | 2017-06-23 21:21:32 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6ejou4 | a tip on maximizing your EV tax credit | Hello fellow Tesla followers. I had not seen this previously discussed but wanted to share a tip that could allow you to receive the full EV federal tax credit. The budget-friendly Model 3 is right around the corner. if you are right around or below the amount needed to assume a $7500 federal tax liability (~57k AGI for an individual) there is possibly an easy way to push that in your favor. If you currently have a 401(k) or a traditional IRA (pre-tax retirement) you are capable of increasing your taxable income by performing a rollover into a Roth IRA (post-tax retirement). It is penalty-free if completed within 60 days. More information about it can be found on the [IRS s webpage page 22](https: www.irs.gov pub irs-pdf p590a.pdf). I recommend spending a little time reading up and preparing now that way you can reap the full benefits of the credit come tax season. | Infinite101 | 2017-06-01 02:00:07 | 33 | dib7au6 | I this 3 years ago when we bought our S in cash. There are lots of folks who are able to live under their means and accrue assets without having enough single year tax liability to fully use the tax credit-- *some* of you are being a bit elitist for thinking otherwise. It s a trend I ve noted as this high-end brand moves downmarket... like reverse jealousy that the rabble are invading the country club. Stop it! Tesla s goal is moving EVERYONE to sustainable transport. We re planning on getting another Tesla (either a 3 or an S) later this year also cash with another modest conversion likely. ANYWAY-- do note that UNLIKE a normal IRA contribution you have to rollovers WITHIN the calendar year. You do NOT have until April 15th (or whatever). That makes calculating the amount to rollover a somewhat moving target as the year winds down and you assess where you re at with final statements arriving months too late. There s also another consideration to make. You can typically opt to deduct state local income taxes OR sales taxes paid. The purchase of a Tesla might ALONE be more sales tax than you pay in state local (or close) so you should first itemize every penny paid in sales tax and see if that lowers you liability more than income taxes. Then adjust the Roth conversion to offset or sell off other assets for a free capital gain to make up the gap. | TeslaPittsburgh | 2017-06-01 09:59:47 | 10 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
86mvst | abetterrouteplanner.com | Just a reminder that [this awesome website](https: abetterrouteplanner.com) exists and is *incredibly* accurate once you get your settings dialed in. Used it this past week for a trip from Bangor ME to Newport RI and back and it relieved whatever anxiety I had left regarding long distance trips (and I m in a 2014 60 kWh). I m not the designer or owner of the site but feel free to ask any questions. It s worked so well that I ve been able to set the “charger arrival charge” as low as 5% and feel comfortable with it. https: imgur.com a 0EcxV | bemental_ | 2018-03-23 18:23:23 | 61 | dw6d9a3 | One thing I wish it had was the ability to set what charge you d like to have at each way point. For instance if I say I want to go from my house to my parents house I can say I want to arrive with 50%. But I don t know if that s a good # to arrive with for a return trip. So instead I have to put in my address as a 3rd point in which case I can say I want to arrive home with a a specific #. But once I ve done that I d like to tweak the waypoint to see what it would look like if I arrived at my parents with 75% or 25%. | RTPGiants | 2018-03-23 19:26:50 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
86mvst | abetterrouteplanner.com | Just a reminder that [this awesome website](https: abetterrouteplanner.com) exists and is *incredibly* accurate once you get your settings dialed in. Used it this past week for a trip from Bangor ME to Newport RI and back and it relieved whatever anxiety I had left regarding long distance trips (and I m in a 2014 60 kWh). I m not the designer or owner of the site but feel free to ask any questions. It s worked so well that I ve been able to set the “charger arrival charge” as low as 5% and feel comfortable with it. https: imgur.com a 0EcxV | bemental_ | 2018-03-23 18:23:23 | 61 | dw69x8g | Second this I found the W h mile @ 65mph to be a bit cautious on a 75D but once it s dialled in it s the most usable of all the route planners. Setting chargers as waypoints along your route let s you set your charge time at each one and tailor your trip which is probably my favourite feature. | julez061 | 2018-03-23 18:35:45 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
cnfzbz | abrupt braking with nothing in front of me on AP 28.2? | My hw3 model 3 updated last night to 28.2. Today while going to work driving along at 70mph in light traffic it decided to just SLAM on the brakes. It ended up going about 30mph before I mashed the gas. Then tonight coming home from work same thing. All of a sudden rapid braking. Nothing in front of me but one car in the lane to the right taking an exit. It was embarrassing and I m honestly scared to use any of the self driving shit now. Any way to report that behavior? Has this happened to anyone else? | neonshaun | 2019-08-08 03:27:01 | 31 | ewa60xq | This has been common behavior basically forever. Random things fool the system into thinking there is an obstacle upcoming so the car brakes. Just keep your foot on the accelerator to counter it. Car typically slows from 70 to 67 before I react. If the car slowed from 70-30 you had to have sat idle for quite a long time watching it slow down. | demonlag | 2019-08-08 04:07:09 | 11 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
cnfzbz | abrupt braking with nothing in front of me on AP 28.2? | My hw3 model 3 updated last night to 28.2. Today while going to work driving along at 70mph in light traffic it decided to just SLAM on the brakes. It ended up going about 30mph before I mashed the gas. Then tonight coming home from work same thing. All of a sudden rapid braking. Nothing in front of me but one car in the lane to the right taking an exit. It was embarrassing and I m honestly scared to use any of the self driving shit now. Any way to report that behavior? Has this happened to anyone else? | neonshaun | 2019-08-08 03:27:01 | 31 | ewa22tp | Phantom braking nothing new. Hundreds of posts on it. > driving along at 70mph in light traffic it decided to just SLAM on the brakes. It ended up going about 30mph before I mashed the gas You really need to be able to react faster. | Dr_Pippin | 2019-08-08 03:32:34 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
cnfzbz | abrupt braking with nothing in front of me on AP 28.2? | My hw3 model 3 updated last night to 28.2. Today while going to work driving along at 70mph in light traffic it decided to just SLAM on the brakes. It ended up going about 30mph before I mashed the gas. Then tonight coming home from work same thing. All of a sudden rapid braking. Nothing in front of me but one car in the lane to the right taking an exit. It was embarrassing and I m honestly scared to use any of the self driving shit now. Any way to report that behavior? Has this happened to anyone else? | neonshaun | 2019-08-08 03:27:01 | 31 | ewa2lst | As mentioned phantom braking. It also seems to be worse right after a software update and typically improves over a few days. | chuckyvt | 2019-08-08 03:37:13 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
cnfzbz | abrupt braking with nothing in front of me on AP 28.2? | My hw3 model 3 updated last night to 28.2. Today while going to work driving along at 70mph in light traffic it decided to just SLAM on the brakes. It ended up going about 30mph before I mashed the gas. Then tonight coming home from work same thing. All of a sudden rapid braking. Nothing in front of me but one car in the lane to the right taking an exit. It was embarrassing and I m honestly scared to use any of the self driving shit now. Any way to report that behavior? Has this happened to anyone else? | neonshaun | 2019-08-08 03:27:01 | 31 | ewac4b5 | I ve been getting this issue lately where it makes micro braking adjustments when travelling freeway speeds as I pass cars in my right lane. Very annoying feels like I am brake checking the car behind me. | reefine | 2019-08-08 05:03:35 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
dfukev | advice regarding denied post delivery repairs | Hi guys I picked up my model 3 about 2 weeks ago. I noted fit finish trim concerns with my delivery specialist and had them annotated to be fixed. My service appointment was 1 day outside my return window and I simply asked can we do a thorough inspection and just go over with me what I can expect tk be fixed and what s not going to be fixed so I can decide if I m going to keep the car. Among a long list of things DS signed off on replacing rear seat due to center Armrest cushion being an odd shape glove box has about an inch gap on one side driver side of dash also has about an inch gap on the display screen side. I was assured that him signing off would ensure what was agreed upon would be addressed and I used this to make my decision to keep the vehicle. Service just let me know my car is ready. Less than half the issues were addressed and open issues were noted to be in spec... I ve attached pics of the particularly shoddy parts. Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. I m supoosed to pick up the car today. I feel like being in spec. vs out of spec is moot at this point as I basically stopped short of a return because I was promised these would be fixed and I have a list of items to be addressed signed by the DS. [glove box](https: i.imgur.com LUbRJBj.jpg) [driver side dash](https: i.imgur.com cOnSzYL.jpg) [rear seat](https: i.imgur.com IT7GhpT.jpg) Update: confirmed at my visit that items were determined to be in spec. I asked for a service manager. Did not leave with my car. I insisted that they either honor the promises made by delivery specialist or let me walk away from the car. Wording was clear on my list of work to be completed from delivery. Language used was. Replace x replace y not look and see.if it s okay. I was promised new components. Not sure where we are headed but for sure this has taken the joy out of new car ownership. Had it 8 days prior to dropping off at service. Update 2: I am returning the car moving forward it ll be treated as though it was returned within the 7 day window. | elevenbee | 2019-10-10 07:35:33 | 46 | f36g61x | And this is what pisses me off with Tesla. Yet people here deny how Tesla still has quality control issues. I ve had to send my vehicle in for so many basic and stupid things that a car shouldn t have. This is something Tesla needs to get ahold of asap. | Brutaka1 | 2019-10-10 12:49:03 | 38 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
dfukev | advice regarding denied post delivery repairs | Hi guys I picked up my model 3 about 2 weeks ago. I noted fit finish trim concerns with my delivery specialist and had them annotated to be fixed. My service appointment was 1 day outside my return window and I simply asked can we do a thorough inspection and just go over with me what I can expect tk be fixed and what s not going to be fixed so I can decide if I m going to keep the car. Among a long list of things DS signed off on replacing rear seat due to center Armrest cushion being an odd shape glove box has about an inch gap on one side driver side of dash also has about an inch gap on the display screen side. I was assured that him signing off would ensure what was agreed upon would be addressed and I used this to make my decision to keep the vehicle. Service just let me know my car is ready. Less than half the issues were addressed and open issues were noted to be in spec... I ve attached pics of the particularly shoddy parts. Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. I m supoosed to pick up the car today. I feel like being in spec. vs out of spec is moot at this point as I basically stopped short of a return because I was promised these would be fixed and I have a list of items to be addressed signed by the DS. [glove box](https: i.imgur.com LUbRJBj.jpg) [driver side dash](https: i.imgur.com cOnSzYL.jpg) [rear seat](https: i.imgur.com IT7GhpT.jpg) Update: confirmed at my visit that items were determined to be in spec. I asked for a service manager. Did not leave with my car. I insisted that they either honor the promises made by delivery specialist or let me walk away from the car. Wording was clear on my list of work to be completed from delivery. Language used was. Replace x replace y not look and see.if it s okay. I was promised new components. Not sure where we are headed but for sure this has taken the joy out of new car ownership. Had it 8 days prior to dropping off at service. Update 2: I am returning the car moving forward it ll be treated as though it was returned within the 7 day window. | elevenbee | 2019-10-10 07:35:33 | 46 | f35wa2n | Search this community for “Arbitration” and I would recommend that you opt out of it. Meet with the manager and let him know you will take legal action if they do not fulfill the repairs they agreed to. Look up lemon law in your state. I would be very frustrated with those gaps. | Ocrizo | 2019-10-10 07:55:55 | 29 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
dfukev | advice regarding denied post delivery repairs | Hi guys I picked up my model 3 about 2 weeks ago. I noted fit finish trim concerns with my delivery specialist and had them annotated to be fixed. My service appointment was 1 day outside my return window and I simply asked can we do a thorough inspection and just go over with me what I can expect tk be fixed and what s not going to be fixed so I can decide if I m going to keep the car. Among a long list of things DS signed off on replacing rear seat due to center Armrest cushion being an odd shape glove box has about an inch gap on one side driver side of dash also has about an inch gap on the display screen side. I was assured that him signing off would ensure what was agreed upon would be addressed and I used this to make my decision to keep the vehicle. Service just let me know my car is ready. Less than half the issues were addressed and open issues were noted to be in spec... I ve attached pics of the particularly shoddy parts. Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. I m supoosed to pick up the car today. I feel like being in spec. vs out of spec is moot at this point as I basically stopped short of a return because I was promised these would be fixed and I have a list of items to be addressed signed by the DS. [glove box](https: i.imgur.com LUbRJBj.jpg) [driver side dash](https: i.imgur.com cOnSzYL.jpg) [rear seat](https: i.imgur.com IT7GhpT.jpg) Update: confirmed at my visit that items were determined to be in spec. I asked for a service manager. Did not leave with my car. I insisted that they either honor the promises made by delivery specialist or let me walk away from the car. Wording was clear on my list of work to be completed from delivery. Language used was. Replace x replace y not look and see.if it s okay. I was promised new components. Not sure where we are headed but for sure this has taken the joy out of new car ownership. Had it 8 days prior to dropping off at service. Update 2: I am returning the car moving forward it ll be treated as though it was returned within the 7 day window. | elevenbee | 2019-10-10 07:35:33 | 46 | f36swef | If Tesla does not sort out their shit the moment anyone else makes a decent EV and has a good charging network they are going to have big problems. | falconboy2029 | 2019-10-10 14:16:56 | 8 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
dfukev | advice regarding denied post delivery repairs | Hi guys I picked up my model 3 about 2 weeks ago. I noted fit finish trim concerns with my delivery specialist and had them annotated to be fixed. My service appointment was 1 day outside my return window and I simply asked can we do a thorough inspection and just go over with me what I can expect tk be fixed and what s not going to be fixed so I can decide if I m going to keep the car. Among a long list of things DS signed off on replacing rear seat due to center Armrest cushion being an odd shape glove box has about an inch gap on one side driver side of dash also has about an inch gap on the display screen side. I was assured that him signing off would ensure what was agreed upon would be addressed and I used this to make my decision to keep the vehicle. Service just let me know my car is ready. Less than half the issues were addressed and open issues were noted to be in spec... I ve attached pics of the particularly shoddy parts. Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. I m supoosed to pick up the car today. I feel like being in spec. vs out of spec is moot at this point as I basically stopped short of a return because I was promised these would be fixed and I have a list of items to be addressed signed by the DS. [glove box](https: i.imgur.com LUbRJBj.jpg) [driver side dash](https: i.imgur.com cOnSzYL.jpg) [rear seat](https: i.imgur.com IT7GhpT.jpg) Update: confirmed at my visit that items were determined to be in spec. I asked for a service manager. Did not leave with my car. I insisted that they either honor the promises made by delivery specialist or let me walk away from the car. Wording was clear on my list of work to be completed from delivery. Language used was. Replace x replace y not look and see.if it s okay. I was promised new components. Not sure where we are headed but for sure this has taken the joy out of new car ownership. Had it 8 days prior to dropping off at service. Update 2: I am returning the car moving forward it ll be treated as though it was returned within the 7 day window. | elevenbee | 2019-10-10 07:35:33 | 46 | f3676yc | Squeaky wheel gets the grease. If they won t fix it or accept the return spend a few hours parked on the (public) street in front of the sales location on their busy Saturdays and let potential customers hop in and check out the quality of the product they re buying. Big signs help. I am an asshole and I approve this message 🇺🇸 | TheKobayashiMoron | 2019-10-10 11:38:55 | 6 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9vaqgt | after preheating only ~3.6% lower range than expected in 25 degree F weather. 22 mile drive. 5mph over speed limit. | I thought I would share for those with cold weather performance questions- I preheated the car while attached to my garage for about 20min before driving to work. I also was driving roughly 5mph over the speed limit so the lower range than expected is also probably being influenced from that. I m very pleased as I had previously heard of significant range loss due to cold weather. I ve got an annual 270 mile road trip our family takes in December into northern WI so have been eager to see how the car s charge holds up. | Tedthemagnificent | 2018-11-08 15:04:52 | 39 | e9b1pq1 | Er. uh.... how do you preheat? | XxWestinxX | 2018-11-08 18:32:27 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6ipv6x | None of the renders are from Tesla you know. It s just fans and bloggers and artists speculating (all of them outlandishly in my opinion). The only content from Tesla are the teaser image of the light strip (with no context about where on the truck it is) and Elon s comments saying all the renders are off the mark and it s more like an armored personnel carrier that they ll unveil in November . | serendipity81 | 2019-11-04 15:48:02 | 58 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6iq9a6 | The crazy renders aren t from Tesla...they re all fan speculation and they re all bad. Tesla has not announced the truck. Tesla has not announced a reveal date for the truck. The only reason we know it exists is Elon. We know it exists. We know Elon and Franz like it. Now we wait for more information and ignore the renders until Tesla says something official. | jonescalebe | 2019-11-04 15:51:00 | 43 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6iq4h9 | If you want the truck to fit in your driveway like your F150 while also out-hauling and out-performing it you should be happy. If you want the truck to *look like* your F150 I think you ll be sorely disappointed. You say you want a “comparable in design” but I think you re confusing design with size and function. By all accounts it will *not* be a comparable design but the lack of an engine compartment should allow for a similarly sized truck that gives you more usable passenger and bed space. | sabasaba19 | 2019-11-04 15:49:59 | 42 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6irja0 | > Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. What PR campaign are you talking about?? Who do you think is releasing these renders? | venture70 | 2019-11-04 16:00:30 | 36 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6iqm63 | PR campaigns? They re wild ass guesses by people who have no insight. Complete guesses. | Eldanon | 2019-11-04 15:53:35 | 31 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6iro5g | These renders are not from Tesla. They re from individuals making guesses off a very small amount of data that Tesla Musk has shared. Some of the statements Musk has made has given me a little pause but I m taking a wait and see approach. Maybe it ll be fairly traditional in looks or maybe it ll be something totally different. However I like what Tesla makes today so I m guessing I ll like this too. When s that dang unveiling?! | flompwillow | 2019-11-04 16:01:30 | 21 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6jcv2b | It won t look like an F-150 or a Dodge Ram. It will be a very popular opinion to say It s ridiculous-looking. They will sell every one they can make. | jpbeans | 2019-11-04 18:39:06 | 11 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6j68pf | This is the only render Tesla have released https: www.teslarati.com wp-content uploads 2019 03 tesla-pickup-truck-cyberpunk-teaser.jpg All others are fan made. | pixel4 | 2019-11-04 17:50:06 | 9 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6jtvq5 | I think the truck will look different. “Modern” trucks are designed by necessity. Big hood to fit a bit engine cab bed. That s it. All of those are required. Tesla has a different set of design constraints. They need space for the cab and bed and have far more flexibility up front. The only other constraint is what people will accept but they make practical cars that look good so I think they will figure it out. Something like a cab over design would make sense. Or at least a small hood. You could put a lot of glass up front for a great view. Maybe something like looking out of an RV or minivan. It would be a big upgrade in terms of practicality because you d be able to see directly in front of the truck whereas you have a significant blind spot in front of a traditional truck. This is a big plus when you re trying to maneuver a large vehicle. Not to mention you d have much more space for the cab and or bed if you re making a truck that s roughly the same length as a traditional truck. I think it s almost guaranteed they ditch the front and go with a cab over look or a small hood area like a minivan. You could do something like the interior space of a Model X with an F-150 size bed and it would be the same length as a crew cab truck. It would be a 6 7 passenger SUV with captain chairs a trunk area and a full size bed. There s nothing like that on the road and it s an impossible design for everyone but Tesla. | Automatic_Ocelot | 2019-11-04 20:42:23 | 9 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6izvgu | > The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. During the Semi event Elon made a joke about making a pickup large enough to hold a pickup based on the Semi chassis. This was pretty clearly a joke whimsical design exercise but for some reason some people took it as literal for the pickup design. This is why some of the fan renderings are so large. I would put zero stock into them. We ll find out for sure in a couple of weeks. | EbolaFred | 2019-11-04 17:02:54 | 7 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6j1eo2 | I hope you ll be able to see a small child standing in front of your truck. | CaptainChaos74 | 2019-11-04 17:14:30 | 6 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6j3j15 | Why would you say it to someone from Tesla? People throwing wild guesses - what would you have Tesla do about it? At this point Tesla had only released one image and it is hard to guess anything from it. Basically Tesla is keeping it tightly under wraps. | yyz_gringo | 2019-11-04 17:30:01 | 5 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
drjc28 | all of the renders for a Tesla pickup truck are awful. | So far I havent seen any render of a Tesla pickup truck that isnt a dead on arrival product due to just plain ugliness. I ve been firmly on the Tesla train for awhile and was really hoping for an alternative to my next gas guzzling ecoboost Ford F150. But whatever Tesla releases needs to be on the map as far as comparable to a modern truck. I dont need a frunk but it would be nice. But I need it to fit in my driveway at least. The new render shows it being 3 times the size of a normal vehicle. Maybe these are just PR campaigns but it s not giving me more confidence in the truck. I want a Tesla truck but...it needs to be comparable in design to an actual truck. I m hoping that this post gets to show up on this subreddit because somehow somewhere I want to say this out loud to someone from Tesla. Stop releasing these bizarre renders. Make it an official statement or nothing at all. And dont make the truck weird. You re giving me anxiety. | MedianJ03 | 2019-11-04 15:43:10 | 284 | f6jhbw6 | Yeah my Google feed keeps dishing out these Tesla renders articles and they re such garbage. Could THIS be the next Tesla?! Hell no! This isnt a Tesla render because Tesla has revealed nothing about it. It s barely a grown-up equivalent of a four-year-old with a box of crayons inventing a spaceship and saying could this NASA render be the next Mars delivery vehicle?! | truth_matters_to_me | 2019-11-04 19:12:03 | 5 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
8767a0 | any Tesla Model 3 Owner in Seattle... willing to give me a ride | I m poised to start configuring my Model 3 order... but would really like to ride in one first feel like I ve done a little due diligence. If there is a Model 3 owner in Seattle area willing to give me a brief test drive (I don t need to be behind wheel just passenger seat) I would greatly appreciate it. Please DM me if so :) | applecidervinegur | 2018-03-26 03:45:37 | 15 | dwapz6p | Once I get mine back from the shop (sometime this week) I would be willing. | papadopolis | 2018-03-26 06:53:56 | 8 | Test Driving Tesla Models |
8767a0 | any Tesla Model 3 Owner in Seattle... willing to give me a ride | I m poised to start configuring my Model 3 order... but would really like to ride in one first feel like I ve done a little due diligence. If there is a Model 3 owner in Seattle area willing to give me a brief test drive (I don t need to be behind wheel just passenger seat) I would greatly appreciate it. Please DM me if so :) | applecidervinegur | 2018-03-26 03:45:37 | 15 | dwanlcv | I m in Whidbey Island taking delivery in a week I d be willing. | Incapacitater | 2018-03-26 05:39:26 | 6 | Test Driving Tesla Models |
8767a0 | any Tesla Model 3 Owner in Seattle... willing to give me a ride | I m poised to start configuring my Model 3 order... but would really like to ride in one first feel like I ve done a little due diligence. If there is a Model 3 owner in Seattle area willing to give me a brief test drive (I don t need to be behind wheel just passenger seat) I would greatly appreciate it. Please DM me if so :) | applecidervinegur | 2018-03-26 03:45:37 | 15 | dwb2pbq | We should have a thread specifically for this. I live in Cleveland and I d also love to sit in one and be driven around. Not very common in these parts. No Teslas whatsoever on Turo. Also tried local Facebook groups but no dice. | dubsteponmycat | 2018-03-26 13:48:46 | 5 | Test Driving Tesla Models |
8767a0 | any Tesla Model 3 Owner in Seattle... willing to give me a ride | I m poised to start configuring my Model 3 order... but would really like to ride in one first feel like I ve done a little due diligence. If there is a Model 3 owner in Seattle area willing to give me a brief test drive (I don t need to be behind wheel just passenger seat) I would greatly appreciate it. Please DM me if so :) | applecidervinegur | 2018-03-26 03:45:37 | 15 | dwbk2xe | Bellevue square bro | dizzle425 | 2018-03-26 18:27:44 | 5 | Test Driving Tesla Models |
1s0894 | any ideas what the future of the supercharging network will be like in the next 10 years or so? | do you think eventually they will be as frequent as gas stations are now? or do you think they will always be kind of spread apart? | day-maker | 2013-12-03 17:39:35 | 11 | cdsprx6 | I predict within the next five years that Tesla signs agreements with other companies to allow for use of the Supercharging network (Maybe not for free as Tesla owners get). For EV to take over it needs a fast charging standard and Tesla s technology is miles ahead of the competition. Allowing other cars to utilize the network will proliferate electric vehicles as a whole and in turn benefit Tesla. | Titsout4theboiz | 2013-12-03 19:39:44 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
gpx3m9 | anyone else having issues with slow unlocking and sometimes delayed activation of backup cameras? | i swear it used to be so much faster now I m 4 10 times standing there like a dummy trying to open my car while the screen shows that I need the key card to unlock it for a good 30 seconds. | poastoast | 2020-05-24 20:47:56 | 31 | frpxn6i | or how bout when you tell your friends “it s a computer on wheels starts rite up” and then you get in to show em the screens go blank hitting the brake. tapping the screen. BLAAAAMMMM! HE WAS A SK8R BOY! screams out of your speaker because it connects to your kids phone turn down the volume. ok good it s finally on. reverse. beepbeepbeep wait hit brake again hit shifter again ok good we re going. ya it s a cool car watch how it closes my garage door automatically. or doesn t. dream car. | wbrettm | 2020-05-25 00:14:23 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
gpx3m9 | anyone else having issues with slow unlocking and sometimes delayed activation of backup cameras? | i swear it used to be so much faster now I m 4 10 times standing there like a dummy trying to open my car while the screen shows that I need the key card to unlock it for a good 30 seconds. | poastoast | 2020-05-24 20:47:56 | 31 | frpcxht | Yes this last update has screwed quite a few things up. The biggest issue is LTE not working. I haven t had any success connecting to LTE for the past week. | Brutaka1 | 2020-05-24 21:06:21 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5ywzbg | are tesla cars environmental friendly? | Hi I was having a discussion with some friends of mine who are fanatics of normal cars and since I m not a car person they were telling me that the environmental cost of using Tesla cars is not better than oil cars in terms of batteries to be tossed at the end of their cycle and electric cost for recharge. Can someone explain it to me if that s true? PS: I live in Europe so consider that oil is quite more expensive than the US (triple as much more or less) and Tesla cars look expensive :) even though i d be interested in buying one. | stokks | 2017-03-12 04:23:31 | 16 | detk680 | On top of what others have said are your friends factoring in a decade worth of emissions from other cars? And then are they factoring in the energy needed to refine oil and the emissions and cost of fuel for the vehicles to simply transport gasoline? The infrastructure for electricity is largely there so there s not much overhead there in relation to electric vehicles. Also -- Tesla specifically is extremely focused on efficiency -- so of course much of the production processes are going to be less of an environmental hit than an industry whose sole focus is selling vehicles that pollute the environment. Shouldn t really be a debate. Edit: Added words. | 110110 | 2017-03-12 04:42:38 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5ywzbg | are tesla cars environmental friendly? | Hi I was having a discussion with some friends of mine who are fanatics of normal cars and since I m not a car person they were telling me that the environmental cost of using Tesla cars is not better than oil cars in terms of batteries to be tossed at the end of their cycle and electric cost for recharge. Can someone explain it to me if that s true? PS: I live in Europe so consider that oil is quite more expensive than the US (triple as much more or less) and Tesla cars look expensive :) even though i d be interested in buying one. | stokks | 2017-03-12 04:23:31 | 16 | detjpzk | In the US they are at least 40% better for environment taking in to account manufacturing and charging versus an ICE car (internal combustion engine) and up to 90% in some states depending on the mix of energy production used to charge. In Europe it would depend on what % of your energy comes from Fossil fuels vs Renewables. And battery packs aren t just thrown out if they go wrong. They can be pulled apart and recycled. | therendevouswithfish | 2017-03-12 04:29:29 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5ywzbg | are tesla cars environmental friendly? | Hi I was having a discussion with some friends of mine who are fanatics of normal cars and since I m not a car person they were telling me that the environmental cost of using Tesla cars is not better than oil cars in terms of batteries to be tossed at the end of their cycle and electric cost for recharge. Can someone explain it to me if that s true? PS: I live in Europe so consider that oil is quite more expensive than the US (triple as much more or less) and Tesla cars look expensive :) even though i d be interested in buying one. | stokks | 2017-03-12 04:23:31 | 16 | detsg7z | [because reading sucks](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=K9m9WDxmSN8) | Maltharr | 2017-03-12 10:36:40 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5ywzbg | are tesla cars environmental friendly? | Hi I was having a discussion with some friends of mine who are fanatics of normal cars and since I m not a car person they were telling me that the environmental cost of using Tesla cars is not better than oil cars in terms of batteries to be tossed at the end of their cycle and electric cost for recharge. Can someone explain it to me if that s true? PS: I live in Europe so consider that oil is quite more expensive than the US (triple as much more or less) and Tesla cars look expensive :) even though i d be interested in buying one. | stokks | 2017-03-12 04:23:31 | 16 | detkss1 | also as mentioned here depends on what your country State runs on if powered by coal power stations this is actually still more efficient than individual cars efficiency ( power stations grid runs at an over all higher efficiency) then you can take into account countries like mine (New Zealand) that run on 84%+ Renewables year round ( mainly all hydro Geo thermal and wind here) Also litium ion batteries are 100% recyclable these can either be broken down for recycle or put straight to use as a powerwall type situation ( as in after 15-25 years they may not have the HIGH Power for day to day driving but are still fine for storage purposes....then once this is passed its used by it can be broken down and recycled) And keep in mind we are still at the start of this stuff soon there will be more recyclables companies etc ( just like when gas cars came out there was not a pump at every corner straight away) | Topp3rharley | 2017-03-12 05:01:32 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5ywzbg | are tesla cars environmental friendly? | Hi I was having a discussion with some friends of mine who are fanatics of normal cars and since I m not a car person they were telling me that the environmental cost of using Tesla cars is not better than oil cars in terms of batteries to be tossed at the end of their cycle and electric cost for recharge. Can someone explain it to me if that s true? PS: I live in Europe so consider that oil is quite more expensive than the US (triple as much more or less) and Tesla cars look expensive :) even though i d be interested in buying one. | stokks | 2017-03-12 04:23:31 | 16 | detmogu | Add in the cost of [ Our oil is under their sand. ](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki 1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat) [Every gun that is made ](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Chance_for_Peace_speech) every warship launched every rocket fired signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers the genius of its scientists the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants each serving a town of 60 000 population. It is two fine fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8 000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. - President Eisenhower | hkibad | 2017-03-12 05:59:30 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5ywzbg | are tesla cars environmental friendly? | Hi I was having a discussion with some friends of mine who are fanatics of normal cars and since I m not a car person they were telling me that the environmental cost of using Tesla cars is not better than oil cars in terms of batteries to be tossed at the end of their cycle and electric cost for recharge. Can someone explain it to me if that s true? PS: I live in Europe so consider that oil is quite more expensive than the US (triple as much more or less) and Tesla cars look expensive :) even though i d be interested in buying one. | stokks | 2017-03-12 04:23:31 | 16 | deub4m4 | Batteries are no longer a toxic nimh used in first generations of Prius and the myth is just created by multiplying the recycling of Prius battery 30x to match Tesla capacity also rare earth elements are common and make up a significant part of the battery of Prius while Tesla is mainly graphite and nickel and modern lithium ion is pretty neutral for the environment compared with these.Also recycling of old batteries will be a lot like aluminium recycling because of how much easier it is to rebuild these than to start with raw materials | Goldberg31415 | 2017-03-12 19:57:25 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ctndbs | battery use while plugged in | So recently I was out of town and my model S was plugged in at home in my garage. I had accidentally left the charging limit too high - 95% - from a recent long trip I took. So over night while I was away the car charged up to 95%. I wasn t going to be home for a few days so I wanted to try to run the battery down so it didn t sit at such a high SOC for so long. So... I turned the charge limit down to 70% and turned on the AC to run the battery down. Then I turned up the heater then the AC and cycled that every 4 hours for almost a whole day. The SOC didn t budge at all. It stayed right at 95% and was still at 95% when I got home 2 days later. Does the wall charger provide a trickle of power even if you turn the charging limit down below the current SOC %? | seenhear | 2019-08-21 21:27:07 | 21 | exm35ov | If you re plugged in any power required will come from the charger rather than the battery. Ideal for preheating precooling the cabin | Topological_Torus | 2019-08-21 21:41:19 | 29 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ctndbs | battery use while plugged in | So recently I was out of town and my model S was plugged in at home in my garage. I had accidentally left the charging limit too high - 95% - from a recent long trip I took. So over night while I was away the car charged up to 95%. I wasn t going to be home for a few days so I wanted to try to run the battery down so it didn t sit at such a high SOC for so long. So... I turned the charge limit down to 70% and turned on the AC to run the battery down. Then I turned up the heater then the AC and cycled that every 4 hours for almost a whole day. The SOC didn t budge at all. It stayed right at 95% and was still at 95% when I got home 2 days later. Does the wall charger provide a trickle of power even if you turn the charging limit down below the current SOC %? | seenhear | 2019-08-21 21:27:07 | 21 | exmcuk3 | Dude. Don t worry about it man. Yea you ll read this and that but in the long run this is nothing. | TheAdministrat0r | 2019-08-21 23:10:29 | 16 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ctndbs | battery use while plugged in | So recently I was out of town and my model S was plugged in at home in my garage. I had accidentally left the charging limit too high - 95% - from a recent long trip I took. So over night while I was away the car charged up to 95%. I wasn t going to be home for a few days so I wanted to try to run the battery down so it didn t sit at such a high SOC for so long. So... I turned the charge limit down to 70% and turned on the AC to run the battery down. Then I turned up the heater then the AC and cycled that every 4 hours for almost a whole day. The SOC didn t budge at all. It stayed right at 95% and was still at 95% when I got home 2 days later. Does the wall charger provide a trickle of power even if you turn the charging limit down below the current SOC %? | seenhear | 2019-08-21 21:27:07 | 21 | exmftvf | In this rare circumstance where you re trying to remotely run down the battery while plugged up I *think* you got it half-right. Turn down the charge limit. But HVAC is explicitly shore-powered when possible. A more effective way to run it down I suspect would be to either turn on Sentry mode or have Teslafi pinging it for data constantly. | archbish99 | 2019-08-21 23:40:31 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ctndbs | battery use while plugged in | So recently I was out of town and my model S was plugged in at home in my garage. I had accidentally left the charging limit too high - 95% - from a recent long trip I took. So over night while I was away the car charged up to 95%. I wasn t going to be home for a few days so I wanted to try to run the battery down so it didn t sit at such a high SOC for so long. So... I turned the charge limit down to 70% and turned on the AC to run the battery down. Then I turned up the heater then the AC and cycled that every 4 hours for almost a whole day. The SOC didn t budge at all. It stayed right at 95% and was still at 95% when I got home 2 days later. Does the wall charger provide a trickle of power even if you turn the charging limit down below the current SOC %? | seenhear | 2019-08-21 21:27:07 | 21 | exmqej4 | This is called preconditioning . 100% of the power comes from the charger by intent. This is how we warm our packs in the cold winters. | drdabbles | 2019-08-22 01:32:25 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
61ak0z | before you cancel your model 3 order | For nearly every Elon tweet today he retweeted customer satisfactions from Tesla owners who are driving vehicles from their current offerings with higher profit margins. When you couple that with the fact they just announced a Q2 push to sell S60 models he is clearly continuing to anti-sell Model 3. Before it feels too anticlimactic like Apple announcing an SE or 5C (continuing iPhone comparison) let s take a step back... The only *base* S differences from the 3 are: storage space motorized door handles an instrument cluster some nicer materials and it costs *twice* as much. Neither have dual motors. Neither have a HUD (arguably confirmed today). Both have the same self driving tech (assumed). Same performance and range more or less. If you want an all electric vehicle with practical range self driving hardware a fast charging network over the air major updates and the difference between $68k and $35k before tax incentives is a lot to you it s a no brainer to me. If you cancel your order and order a base S in my opinion you accomplish Elon s current financial motives. If you cancel your order and abandon Tesla for now what other car are you going to buy over the next couple years? | lundjordan | 2017-03-24 18:05:23 | 36 | dfczjgy | Well I agree that he is trying to tame expectations on the Model 3. I don t know about anti-sell to me it looked like he thinks speculation is getting out of hand so he is trying to manage it | thepolan | 2017-03-24 18:11:17 | 27 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
61ak0z | before you cancel your model 3 order | For nearly every Elon tweet today he retweeted customer satisfactions from Tesla owners who are driving vehicles from their current offerings with higher profit margins. When you couple that with the fact they just announced a Q2 push to sell S60 models he is clearly continuing to anti-sell Model 3. Before it feels too anticlimactic like Apple announcing an SE or 5C (continuing iPhone comparison) let s take a step back... The only *base* S differences from the 3 are: storage space motorized door handles an instrument cluster some nicer materials and it costs *twice* as much. Neither have dual motors. Neither have a HUD (arguably confirmed today). Both have the same self driving tech (assumed). Same performance and range more or less. If you want an all electric vehicle with practical range self driving hardware a fast charging network over the air major updates and the difference between $68k and $35k before tax incentives is a lot to you it s a no brainer to me. If you cancel your order and order a base S in my opinion you accomplish Elon s current financial motives. If you cancel your order and abandon Tesla for now what other car are you going to buy over the next couple years? | lundjordan | 2017-03-24 18:05:23 | 36 | dfd27nj | Please cancel your 3! Please! Every slot I move up the wait list helps me and every Model S that is sold helps Elon. | garthreddit | 2017-03-24 19:01:49 | 18 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
61ak0z | before you cancel your model 3 order | For nearly every Elon tweet today he retweeted customer satisfactions from Tesla owners who are driving vehicles from their current offerings with higher profit margins. When you couple that with the fact they just announced a Q2 push to sell S60 models he is clearly continuing to anti-sell Model 3. Before it feels too anticlimactic like Apple announcing an SE or 5C (continuing iPhone comparison) let s take a step back... The only *base* S differences from the 3 are: storage space motorized door handles an instrument cluster some nicer materials and it costs *twice* as much. Neither have dual motors. Neither have a HUD (arguably confirmed today). Both have the same self driving tech (assumed). Same performance and range more or less. If you want an all electric vehicle with practical range self driving hardware a fast charging network over the air major updates and the difference between $68k and $35k before tax incentives is a lot to you it s a no brainer to me. If you cancel your order and order a base S in my opinion you accomplish Elon s current financial motives. If you cancel your order and abandon Tesla for now what other car are you going to buy over the next couple years? | lundjordan | 2017-03-24 18:05:23 | 36 | dfczheo | > If you cancel your order and abandon Tesla for now what other car are you going to buy over the next couple years? Probably an Audi S3 or A4. I ll wait until end of the year to decide though because if the AWD Model 3s will ship early in the year that s good enough. If I did buy the Audi I d keep that until the end of the warranty and by that point there ll likely be more options I d consider in the EV market. | freefallgrue | 2017-03-24 18:10:13 | 11 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
61ak0z | before you cancel your model 3 order | For nearly every Elon tweet today he retweeted customer satisfactions from Tesla owners who are driving vehicles from their current offerings with higher profit margins. When you couple that with the fact they just announced a Q2 push to sell S60 models he is clearly continuing to anti-sell Model 3. Before it feels too anticlimactic like Apple announcing an SE or 5C (continuing iPhone comparison) let s take a step back... The only *base* S differences from the 3 are: storage space motorized door handles an instrument cluster some nicer materials and it costs *twice* as much. Neither have dual motors. Neither have a HUD (arguably confirmed today). Both have the same self driving tech (assumed). Same performance and range more or less. If you want an all electric vehicle with practical range self driving hardware a fast charging network over the air major updates and the difference between $68k and $35k before tax incentives is a lot to you it s a no brainer to me. If you cancel your order and order a base S in my opinion you accomplish Elon s current financial motives. If you cancel your order and abandon Tesla for now what other car are you going to buy over the next couple years? | lundjordan | 2017-03-24 18:05:23 | 36 | dfd4o5h | I think he s trying to reset expectations a bit and Tesla might also be adjusting their plan as well. I m willing to bet they re seeing Model S X orders take a hit because imminent Model 3 is cannibalizing it so we might see Model 3 with lower specs than we all anticipated. I ve been asking myself what I would do with my S if the 3 comes out with better specs for half the price -- resale value of S X would crash and very few would opt for the expensive models. So perhaps we re seeing Tesla Musk s plan to counter that. | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2017-03-24 19:48:24 | 9 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
61ak0z | before you cancel your model 3 order | For nearly every Elon tweet today he retweeted customer satisfactions from Tesla owners who are driving vehicles from their current offerings with higher profit margins. When you couple that with the fact they just announced a Q2 push to sell S60 models he is clearly continuing to anti-sell Model 3. Before it feels too anticlimactic like Apple announcing an SE or 5C (continuing iPhone comparison) let s take a step back... The only *base* S differences from the 3 are: storage space motorized door handles an instrument cluster some nicer materials and it costs *twice* as much. Neither have dual motors. Neither have a HUD (arguably confirmed today). Both have the same self driving tech (assumed). Same performance and range more or less. If you want an all electric vehicle with practical range self driving hardware a fast charging network over the air major updates and the difference between $68k and $35k before tax incentives is a lot to you it s a no brainer to me. If you cancel your order and order a base S in my opinion you accomplish Elon s current financial motives. If you cancel your order and abandon Tesla for now what other car are you going to buy over the next couple years? | lundjordan | 2017-03-24 18:05:23 | 36 | dfd0x9k | > Same performance and range more or less. He said the opposite of this. | Suthsayer_ | 2017-03-24 18:37:33 | 5 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
61ak0z | before you cancel your model 3 order | For nearly every Elon tweet today he retweeted customer satisfactions from Tesla owners who are driving vehicles from their current offerings with higher profit margins. When you couple that with the fact they just announced a Q2 push to sell S60 models he is clearly continuing to anti-sell Model 3. Before it feels too anticlimactic like Apple announcing an SE or 5C (continuing iPhone comparison) let s take a step back... The only *base* S differences from the 3 are: storage space motorized door handles an instrument cluster some nicer materials and it costs *twice* as much. Neither have dual motors. Neither have a HUD (arguably confirmed today). Both have the same self driving tech (assumed). Same performance and range more or less. If you want an all electric vehicle with practical range self driving hardware a fast charging network over the air major updates and the difference between $68k and $35k before tax incentives is a lot to you it s a no brainer to me. If you cancel your order and order a base S in my opinion you accomplish Elon s current financial motives. If you cancel your order and abandon Tesla for now what other car are you going to buy over the next couple years? | lundjordan | 2017-03-24 18:05:23 | 36 | dfd4xd7 | Opening day Model 3 reservation holder (first 20 in line) and this news has me leaning more towards a Model S. I really want AWD and I m not crazy about waiting even longer for it. Also I know the Model S isn t perfect but it has gotten much better over the years. I m worried I ll be a Model 3 beta tester as an early buyer. Leaning more towards a CPO S. | Mandrik0 | 2017-03-24 19:53:03 | 5 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
7xy184 | can t find video with Elon saying We need to make an electric Smart car in six weeks (interview about Tesla) | there was a video on YouTube with Elon Musk interview about Tesla and it contained the story about the Daimler collaboration how he told someone We need to make an electric Smart car in six weeks and they had to buy the car in mexico and drive into USA after they made it and it was so powerful that it was doing wheelies in the car park | omuleanu | 2018-02-16 11:05:43 | 25 | duc6jw8 | The colorful story was told in a Wired article in 2010. I retold it in my book about Tesla. I think Elon also mentions it in a video Elon Musk Profiled: Bloomberg Risk Takers from 2013. | Charles-2017 | 2018-02-16 13:43:14 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7xy184 | can t find video with Elon saying We need to make an electric Smart car in six weeks (interview about Tesla) | there was a video on YouTube with Elon Musk interview about Tesla and it contained the story about the Daimler collaboration how he told someone We need to make an electric Smart car in six weeks and they had to buy the car in mexico and drive into USA after they made it and it was so powerful that it was doing wheelies in the car park | omuleanu | 2018-02-16 11:05:43 | 25 | ducj7s6 | https: youtu.be 9mVrEdHWqXU And if you wanted to see a video of the smart car itself in action here it is! | eloderung | 2018-02-16 17:17:31 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fakahp2 | i hate these posts bc they never seem to get better - tesla as a company really needs to get their customer service in check. This current fuck you we ve got your money already attitude will be what stops their growth. A simple google search shows that these issues you face are common | cyrusthegreet | 2019-12-12 15:16:32 | 82 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fak7a80 | This right here is my #1 worry about Tesla s long term viability. The exponential ramp up in sales has not been met with the same ramp up in service. This is unfortunately where the German Lux auto makers will regain their foothold unless Tesla changes their service model in a really big way. Most people don t understand the enormous cost of service and all the current service is warranty work which means all cost to the balance sheet and no revenue offset. If you re a stock owner brace for bad earnings reports as Tesla has to slow their growth curve and ramp up the service centers. | ssevcik | 2019-12-12 14:49:39 | 58 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fak0a2z | I had similar lack of communication over text and the app when trying to get a few things fixed on my 1 year old model 3. They just stopped responding almost immediately. The repairs had to be done at a service center and the nearest one is 3 hours away. I wanted to make sure I was making the most of a day traveling but they couldn t take a few minutes to respond even after I repeated that I would have to drive 6 hours. | zombiearghsforthee | 2019-12-12 13:46:44 | 35 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | faju0vu | they need to scale their support team. tesla is killing it in sales | fastnanonoyes | 2019-12-12 12:42:46 | 27 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fakvrcq | I know this will be downvoted here but I made the decision to sell my May 2018 Model S last month due to repeated service issues failure to correct problems like front suspension rattle and yellow screen border which weren t acceptable to me on a $110 000 vehicle. I now have an Audi e-tron which has been solid with incredible paint interior features and service though admittedly nowhere near as fun as the S. It s my daily driver in town so the more limited range hasn t presented itself as an issue (thus far). | broubroubrou09 | 2019-12-12 18:05:46 | 24 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fakqtfw | Different people at Tesla flat-out lied to me numerous times over a small issue and eventually it was resolved by one CS guy after 90+ days of delay. It was a simple clerical error that they had fucked up originally and then everyone refused to take responsibility for in any way. Everyone acknowledged that there was an error that Tesla ought to fix and everyone claimed it was someone else s problem to update my account correctly. And of course all of this took endless phone calls and emails. Tesla service is shocking. Thank god the car runs well. | nabuhabu | 2019-12-12 17:27:01 | 14 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fak645n | At least build quality is generally OK now. But I continue to see a lot of complaints about service and delivery. Service should be easy it s like any sort of car mechanic shop. Order parts swap out parts.. standard fare. Either you have loaner cars to give out or you don t. $190 hr seems steep. What are the real problems? I m curious to know. Delivery should be ESPECIALLY easy (5min delivery hand them the keys show them an instructional video). Why are people having trouble picking up their cars? All you need is the car keys and title? They continue to ignore e-mails phonecalls.. If e-mails get ignored for more than let s say 2 days it should be a strike against that individual employee. Maybe they need an Unanswered feature in their e-mail instead of a Unread feature. Not sure why they are using e-mail in the first place instead of a ticket system? | thro_a_wey | 2019-12-12 14:39:37 | 13 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | falgvch | You know how you fix terrible auto service parts and warranty issues? Used privately-owned franchised dealers. Face it Benz Audi BMW Porsche Lexus and all the others have franchised dealers (don t even THINK about Roller or Bentley or the exotics THOSE stores are like suites at a Four Seasons). When you go to these stores for service (which you can schedule at will) you get your ass kissed to the Nth degree loaner cars free refreshments internet lounges shuttle service the whole thing. You get treated like a customer that bought an expensive luxury car. Why do Tesla owners put up with this shit? | candidly1 | 2019-12-12 20:55:54 | 13 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fakrulw | Wait... in your country you can actually call them? :o We can only use the app all phones are turned off at tesla here. | SweHammer | 2019-12-12 17:35:03 | 10 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fali2qm | I have similar experience. I bought the wall connector in October and it charged my car fine until mid November. Since mid November the car port doesn t lock the charging cable anymore so it can t charge my car. And really sometimes when it locked in i receive an error saying faulty charging equipment. All other cables like the wall socket charger public charger and super chargers worked. Thereafter I made an appointment with the service center but they redirected me to the customer service of Tesla and cancelled my appointment. Next I called the customer service and explained everything and they confirmed - by watching the logs - that I have a faulty wall connector and forwarded my case to the charging team. In the mean time I called the customer service every other day. So after 3 weeks I decided to buy a new wall connector because it was taking forever for Tesla to fix my problem . I installed the connector immediately when I received and could finally charge at home. On the same day the charging team responded to my case and responded “We have investigated the logs regarding the charging issue with the Tesla Wall Connector. There is likely a problem at the charge port.” And is now refusing to replace the faulty connector. So A big middle finger to Tesla! Really horrible!! Car is still awesome though. | -HERO | 2019-12-12 21:05:22 | 9 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fajy83f | > 1 is this under warranty. You didn t say what your issue is. How can we answer that? | Ihaveamodel3 | 2019-12-12 13:26:52 | 8 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fal1a63 | This is Tesla Norway: First time I had it in for service they lost my L2 charging cable. It was in my trunk. At first they refused to replace it. I had to nag them for a week before I got a new one. They refuse to give me the free supercharging I was promised as a referral bonus. This last time went to the SC they scratched my car. Thankfully I noticed before I left the SC and showed it to them and the representative logged it. They still refuse to fix the scratch! They don t respond to emails there is no number to call. I just made a second appointment in the app to get them to fix the scratch. When anyone asks me about the car I tell them I love the car but the service is so terrible it s not worth it. Buy a Kona e-niro or e-tron instead! | simenfiber | 2019-12-12 18:50:48 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | falisi0 | I cannot get Tesla to look at my car. It has almost stranded me several times because the computer says I have 200 miles of range and then suddenly I won t make a 120 mile destination unless I drive slow (50-60 on the interstate). Again I will schedule an appointment and they cancel it. I ve never had a car company refuse to look at their own car under warranty. Can I sue? | IanWhitethe3rd | 2019-12-12 21:11:07 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
e9myxk | can we talk about service for a minute or the lack there of. | I am having some issues with my car. (2017). first off hold times on tesla phone line has gone up substantially this was a 25 minute hold time. i told them my issue. they asked me to make an appointment via the app. which i tried but was getting a date of may 16 2020? she then made the appt for me. someone called me the next day to help diagnose the issue. no luck. i get a text from a tesla representative asking some more questions and saying the cost for labor is 190 hr and rental is only available as per availability? i am guessing this is going to be a long appointment. i ask for service center contact info as i need to arrange a loaner and need to know this is covered under warranty the person i am texting stops responding. i need to ask the service center the following questions. 1 is this under warranty. 2. will i get a loaner car? 3. timeline? Why do i feel i cannot get straight forward answers from tesla service? how did their service go from literally a 99 100 to shit 100. A key aspect of car ownership is ease of service. If tesla can t keep that promise to me from when i purchased the car (2nd car by the way) what s the point? this is the 2nd car i purchased from tesla which i was told can drive itself. first one was 2015 and then they said oops no more hardware so i bought the 2nd one with FSD and now i need to wait for an upgrade on hardware. feel i have been lied to multiple times by tesla now. I hear they stopped the ranger service where they pick up the car for you as well? Has anyone else experienced a degrade in level of service? any solutions? any advice? **IMPORTANT EDIT**: Hi everyone thanks for your feedback with tesla customer service and responses. I was seriously uninterested in my car today felt like selling it and going back to my old ICE ways. I even took pictures and posted on some sites to see initial interest. (i normally dont keep a car longer than 2 years going on 3 years on my car) I am going to mention two things now. 1. So here is the problem that happened and the SOLUTION to that problem. My key fob battery was low when i came back into the country so i replaced it and i was still getting the warning. My summon feature was not working either. I replaced my wife s key fob battery and put the key back in her car where it belongs in case of emergency. The SOLUTION is - i need to unlock and lock the door with wife s key fob 3 times this was the battery that was in fact low. just FYI for everyone. Summon is working now. 2. a reddit user reached out to me via PM- who i will keep anonymous. He She stated they work for Tesla and wanted to help me and asked me to call. I did call. He She helped me through this procedure and it was an after thought after 5-7 min of diagnosis. VERY HELPFUL. thank you! I did mention my grief of reaching the service center. I hope He She does take this up the chain because if god forbid something happens tomorrow - i dont think we should turn to reddit to fix a problem (although this was very helpful). The greater good guys and I want to see TESLA THRIVE and lead the auto industry in the near future. Sure use the APP as a first point of contact but if we need the service center to explain about loaner or is this issue under warranty etc etc. we should have easy access to the service center. Employees like the reddittor obviously want to see Tesla thrive - they had no obligation or need to reach out to me that is good to know. **That s all folks. this is a wrap. I wish everyone a great holiday season especially the very kind Tesla Redditor.** **Edit: Picture of said car**- matte black wrap done 3 years ago (almost). - https: imgur.com a jJrdiNp | blackamex | 2019-12-12 12:32:56 | 430 | fal1s84 | Tesla s customer service is *still* the reason I won t recommend buying a Tesla without a **MASSIVE** disclaimer about how insanely terrible their responsiveness is. I steer some people away from Tesla if they are the type that needs better support. e.g. There s no way I d recommend buying a Tesla to my parents. | meborz | 2019-12-12 18:55:09 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
3d9cmk | causes of battery degradation | after 22 000km and almost a year of driving model S I found out in my experience that age temperature or how many km have you driven to have little effect on battery degradation. Main cause of battery degradation is by far driving too aggressively. I mean if you push it hard enough that battery gets hot and is cooling really loudly maybe even limiting acceleration and continue with it for few minutes. I don t know if the cause is heat or excessive power output but many times I pushed the Tesla to maximum for few minutes next time I charge 1km range is gone forever. When I was driving calmly for few months and several thousand kilometers there was no drop in range. If you do just one or two accelerations at a time or keep it under 200kW of output everything seems to be OK. I want to ask if other owners of model S could agree or disprove my theory or maybe share how much of range have you lost and how often do you drive as fast as if you were racing. I lost 5% every lost km was after some fast driving. | Tupcek | 2015-07-14 14:53:52 | 36 | ct32yk9 | Drive it like you stole it. Seriously- go bonkers. The battery will age with time. All batteries do. Meanwhile you re driving a Tesla Model S!!! Revel in it! Let someone else baby their car and not get the full use out of it. You contribute to the knowledge base by using it. Several years from now the silly Autozone-style commercials will be inundating you with battery upgrades aftermarket replacements etc. and Tesla may very well offer battery upgrades directly. You ve got the car of the future. Drive it! ... and now I wait for the max performance Model 3... | fireproofsalamander | 2015-07-14 16:44:48 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
3d9cmk | causes of battery degradation | after 22 000km and almost a year of driving model S I found out in my experience that age temperature or how many km have you driven to have little effect on battery degradation. Main cause of battery degradation is by far driving too aggressively. I mean if you push it hard enough that battery gets hot and is cooling really loudly maybe even limiting acceleration and continue with it for few minutes. I don t know if the cause is heat or excessive power output but many times I pushed the Tesla to maximum for few minutes next time I charge 1km range is gone forever. When I was driving calmly for few months and several thousand kilometers there was no drop in range. If you do just one or two accelerations at a time or keep it under 200kW of output everything seems to be OK. I want to ask if other owners of model S could agree or disprove my theory or maybe share how much of range have you lost and how often do you drive as fast as if you were racing. I lost 5% every lost km was after some fast driving. | Tupcek | 2015-07-14 14:53:52 | 36 | ct31v35 | Tupcek I haven t read or heard of any research to back up your thesis about aggressive driving causing battery degradation. It just doesn t sound right. Most of the research shows that capacity degradation occurs because of electrolyte oxidation at the cathode or formation of layers called SEI at the anode. Lithium ions shuffle back and forth during discharge and recharge and this phenomenon of oxidation and SEI buildup accumulates over time but this happens very gradually over years and also affected by state of charge (i.e. maintaining 50% balance half of lithium on anode half on cathode is healthier vs 100% all on one side or other) and depth of discharge (discharging to zero is bad) but not affected by rate (speed) of discharge. This topic has also been discussed countless times at TMC and TM forums. You may be talking about power degradation comparing acceleration at full charge vs low charge something that track racers seem to notice. Lastly I suppose you ve seen Dr. Dahn s video so I won t link that. Another helpful video is from Dr. Shirley Meng UCSD where she talks about lithium-ion batteries in general and with respect to what happens at the nano level. https: youtu.be btOCprHNg0Q | Bet_TSLA | 2015-07-14 16:19:12 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6tagg5 | change to M3 estimator text | didn t see this posted anywhere else yet. the text under your selection in the estimator no longer says that it won t impact your place in line. it now reads Your selection allows us to inform you when new options become available. That s new right? | lennyseatown | 2017-08-12 19:34:35 | 36 | dlj49uk | Impressive catch. | run-the-joules | 2017-08-12 19:37:31 | 14 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
6tagg5 | change to M3 estimator text | didn t see this posted anywhere else yet. the text under your selection in the estimator no longer says that it won t impact your place in line. it now reads Your selection allows us to inform you when new options become available. That s new right? | lennyseatown | 2017-08-12 19:34:35 | 36 | dlj5n3k | Good catch. It makes sense - they ll be arranging production partly around what options are most popular I guess. | rustybeancake | 2017-08-12 20:07:41 | 14 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
6tagg5 | change to M3 estimator text | didn t see this posted anywhere else yet. the text under your selection in the estimator no longer says that it won t impact your place in line. it now reads Your selection allows us to inform you when new options become available. That s new right? | lennyseatown | 2017-08-12 19:34:35 | 36 | dlj50o0 | Does that mean it will effect your place in line? | dellfanboy | 2017-08-12 19:54:03 | 13 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
6tagg5 | change to M3 estimator text | didn t see this posted anywhere else yet. the text under your selection in the estimator no longer says that it won t impact your place in line. it now reads Your selection allows us to inform you when new options become available. That s new right? | lennyseatown | 2017-08-12 19:34:35 | 36 | dljo5i5 | I think they needed to remove it because the promise was ambiguous and could be interpreted as false. For instance if I choose to wait for AWD performance I will end up getting my car much later than the people behind me in line who chose RWD standard so in a sense my choice has affected my place in line. | gabo2007 | 2017-08-13 03:05:50 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
imlcvh | charging stations in Alaska | internet searches show one in anchorage maybe a supercharger coming somewhere. we could really use one near talkeetna and another in healy imo to facilitate tesla trips between anchorage and fairbanks. perhaps these are developed planned based on sales idk. would assume we ll be seeing cybers. many of our great road trips are actually south from anchorage towards seward kenai and homer but these roads are generally one lane each way and the inevitable crashes shut it down for hours so i m not sure if that s risk for evs. | aq-r-steppedinsome | 2020-09-04 18:23:57 | 25 | g40y5lg | > internet searches show one in anchorage [Plugshare.com](https: Plugshare.com) shows a few L2 stations in Anchorage but L3 charging is only in Juneau and limited to CHAdeMO. It looks like it s going to be a while until EV road trips beyond the single charge range are possible up there. | thisisreadonly | 2020-09-04 19:05:09 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8d2o62 | common sense tips for safe Autopilot use | In light of the recent MX crash I am hoping we can rehash some of the personal tips on safe autopilot use in NO PARTICULAR ORDER! 1. If you are new to autopilot try it first on freeways do not use on narrow winding roads unless you are comfortable 2. Do not use it on construction zone it often gets confused by cones and cannot sometime clearly see the lane markings 3. Be very careful if it is following [blue color] a vehicle especially in narrow lanes 4. better to avoid lanes that can widen or narrow. i try to avoid right most or left most lanes 5. you will be amazed how reliable autopilot and peaceful your drive is if you go at a speed a notch below the rest of the traffic. 6. be vary of Hill crests especially with AP1 7. Autopilot reacts it doesn t anticipate. 8. Keep your hands on the wheel if it alerts you to hold the wheel dont panic just a gentle nudge in either direction on steering is enough to make the alert go away. again none of this comes as surprising for most experienced Tesla owners but I am hoping someone can pitch other thoughts that can make Autopiloting safer.. Above all I would say that if you have TESLA and you are not using Autopilot at all you are doing yourself a huge injustice if used properly it is much safer especially if you are multitasking EDIT: I am not doing a good job in compiling all the tips I think its better for folks to read through all the comments to understand the nuances.. | sameerb | 2018-04-18 03:35:55 | 44 | dxkgamz | Here s my approach to using Autopilot: When AP is engaged I m still dedicating my full attention to driving (just as much attention as when it s not engaged) but instead of focusing that attention almost exclusively on the area directly in front of me I m paying attention to the entire roadway and the entire area around me constantly assessing where potential threats may be at any given moment. For example I look way up ahead in the roadway to see if there s any slowdown in traffic or anything unusual coming my way. I look at all vehicles in the adjacent lanes assesing whether any of them may be about to come into my lane without warning. I look for any vehicles on the road that may be driving erratically or may pose a collision risk to myself or other vehicles. And of course I m also making sure that the AP is functioning properly and staying within the lane like it s supposed to be. IMO the #1 benefit of autopilot is that rather than enabling you to take your attention off the road and away from driving it allows you to focus on where the greatest potential risk(s) may be at any given moment thereby allowing you to be as prepared as possible in case anything happens that requires you to take action to avoid an accident. | jcdenton40 | 2018-04-18 14:03:08 | 17 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
8d2o62 | common sense tips for safe Autopilot use | In light of the recent MX crash I am hoping we can rehash some of the personal tips on safe autopilot use in NO PARTICULAR ORDER! 1. If you are new to autopilot try it first on freeways do not use on narrow winding roads unless you are comfortable 2. Do not use it on construction zone it often gets confused by cones and cannot sometime clearly see the lane markings 3. Be very careful if it is following [blue color] a vehicle especially in narrow lanes 4. better to avoid lanes that can widen or narrow. i try to avoid right most or left most lanes 5. you will be amazed how reliable autopilot and peaceful your drive is if you go at a speed a notch below the rest of the traffic. 6. be vary of Hill crests especially with AP1 7. Autopilot reacts it doesn t anticipate. 8. Keep your hands on the wheel if it alerts you to hold the wheel dont panic just a gentle nudge in either direction on steering is enough to make the alert go away. again none of this comes as surprising for most experienced Tesla owners but I am hoping someone can pitch other thoughts that can make Autopiloting safer.. Above all I would say that if you have TESLA and you are not using Autopilot at all you are doing yourself a huge injustice if used properly it is much safer especially if you are multitasking EDIT: I am not doing a good job in compiling all the tips I think its better for folks to read through all the comments to understand the nuances.. | sameerb | 2018-04-18 03:35:55 | 44 | dxjtkrn | And if you *must* record use a mount or have a friend record to show Autopilot progress or limitations. No need to endanger yourself or others if you don t have your hands near the wheel ready to take over like you should. | 110110 | 2018-04-18 03:42:20 | 14 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
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