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aoyah9 | [Discussion] Why so much hate towards EV owners? | I ve been a fan of EVs for some time and up until 10 days ago drove a Tundra. I ve been on this sub for a while and have seen people “ICEing” superchargers and keying peoples EVs. Additionally after some pick up truck driving relatives learned of my Tesla purchase a few days ago they started making passive aggressive ranting posts on FB about EV driving young people and telling them that they can t drive their gas cars anymore because “Al Gore told them not to”. Keep in mind I am 36 and don t care what they drive at all. Nor have I made any statements to suggest so. Hell! I had a convo with one of them 2 days ago about how much I love 4Runners. The real question that I have is “what is the threat of an EV to them?” . I truly don t get it. Why would someone block a charger or key your Tesla? If anything there s less cars at the gas pump for them to wait on. I m not particularly left or right leaning. I am certainly not a tree hugger. I ve always loved great cars and Tesla is what I want right now. But I would never shit talk someone for driving any vehicle gas or other. I ve also noticed some weird shit with people driving the newer generation of muscle cars. These people would never “flex” on my truck or even the Audi I used to drive. But everyday since getting a Tesla some Charger challenger corvette or mustang overtakes me at 30 over the speed limit to prove a point. What the point is.... no idea. Keep in mind that I m driving the more “American Made” car of the all of them. That s all. Just a rant. Not angry about any of it but thoroughly confused. What s the lamest reaction that you ve received from an ICE owner? | Sam_Dean_Thumbs_Up | 2019-02-09 23:44:47 | 83 | eg4jipi | I know exactly what you mean. Someone posted on a friend s FB page: > Electric vehicles are an immature technology utterly unready for market place use. Their range is pathetic. Their batteries wear out and have to be replaced regularly at great expense. The ONLY reasons people are actually driving em is 1. Left wing virtue signaling and 2. Massive government subsidies extorted from taxpayers. I had to bite my (virtual) tongue and ignore this even though it is a complete steaming load of horseshit. I didn t want to start a shitstorm on a friend s FB page. Besides I don t know the guy who posted this so in my mind he is a faceless mindless idiot. & #x200B | w4laf | 2019-02-10 00:58:05 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aoyah9 | [Discussion] Why so much hate towards EV owners? | I ve been a fan of EVs for some time and up until 10 days ago drove a Tundra. I ve been on this sub for a while and have seen people “ICEing” superchargers and keying peoples EVs. Additionally after some pick up truck driving relatives learned of my Tesla purchase a few days ago they started making passive aggressive ranting posts on FB about EV driving young people and telling them that they can t drive their gas cars anymore because “Al Gore told them not to”. Keep in mind I am 36 and don t care what they drive at all. Nor have I made any statements to suggest so. Hell! I had a convo with one of them 2 days ago about how much I love 4Runners. The real question that I have is “what is the threat of an EV to them?” . I truly don t get it. Why would someone block a charger or key your Tesla? If anything there s less cars at the gas pump for them to wait on. I m not particularly left or right leaning. I am certainly not a tree hugger. I ve always loved great cars and Tesla is what I want right now. But I would never shit talk someone for driving any vehicle gas or other. I ve also noticed some weird shit with people driving the newer generation of muscle cars. These people would never “flex” on my truck or even the Audi I used to drive. But everyday since getting a Tesla some Charger challenger corvette or mustang overtakes me at 30 over the speed limit to prove a point. What the point is.... no idea. Keep in mind that I m driving the more “American Made” car of the all of them. That s all. Just a rant. Not angry about any of it but thoroughly confused. What s the lamest reaction that you ve received from an ICE owner? | Sam_Dean_Thumbs_Up | 2019-02-09 23:44:47 | 83 | eg4s64d | “Early adopters” of new technology and alternative ways of doing things have always been ridiculed. Insecure people sometimes feel threatened or inadequate toward those who lead the way forward. | escapingdarwin | 2019-02-10 03:03:07 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aoyah9 | [Discussion] Why so much hate towards EV owners? | I ve been a fan of EVs for some time and up until 10 days ago drove a Tundra. I ve been on this sub for a while and have seen people “ICEing” superchargers and keying peoples EVs. Additionally after some pick up truck driving relatives learned of my Tesla purchase a few days ago they started making passive aggressive ranting posts on FB about EV driving young people and telling them that they can t drive their gas cars anymore because “Al Gore told them not to”. Keep in mind I am 36 and don t care what they drive at all. Nor have I made any statements to suggest so. Hell! I had a convo with one of them 2 days ago about how much I love 4Runners. The real question that I have is “what is the threat of an EV to them?” . I truly don t get it. Why would someone block a charger or key your Tesla? If anything there s less cars at the gas pump for them to wait on. I m not particularly left or right leaning. I am certainly not a tree hugger. I ve always loved great cars and Tesla is what I want right now. But I would never shit talk someone for driving any vehicle gas or other. I ve also noticed some weird shit with people driving the newer generation of muscle cars. These people would never “flex” on my truck or even the Audi I used to drive. But everyday since getting a Tesla some Charger challenger corvette or mustang overtakes me at 30 over the speed limit to prove a point. What the point is.... no idea. Keep in mind that I m driving the more “American Made” car of the all of them. That s all. Just a rant. Not angry about any of it but thoroughly confused. What s the lamest reaction that you ve received from an ICE owner? | Sam_Dean_Thumbs_Up | 2019-02-09 23:44:47 | 83 | eg52h21 | I had a jacked up F150 with brushguard light bar camouflage deer sticker and saltlife sticker tell me at a stop light “nice fag mobile! Don t buy foreign.” I could not stop laughing. Other than that I have not had any problems. | BATHTUBSURFER | 2019-02-10 05:50:43 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aoyah9 | [Discussion] Why so much hate towards EV owners? | I ve been a fan of EVs for some time and up until 10 days ago drove a Tundra. I ve been on this sub for a while and have seen people “ICEing” superchargers and keying peoples EVs. Additionally after some pick up truck driving relatives learned of my Tesla purchase a few days ago they started making passive aggressive ranting posts on FB about EV driving young people and telling them that they can t drive their gas cars anymore because “Al Gore told them not to”. Keep in mind I am 36 and don t care what they drive at all. Nor have I made any statements to suggest so. Hell! I had a convo with one of them 2 days ago about how much I love 4Runners. The real question that I have is “what is the threat of an EV to them?” . I truly don t get it. Why would someone block a charger or key your Tesla? If anything there s less cars at the gas pump for them to wait on. I m not particularly left or right leaning. I am certainly not a tree hugger. I ve always loved great cars and Tesla is what I want right now. But I would never shit talk someone for driving any vehicle gas or other. I ve also noticed some weird shit with people driving the newer generation of muscle cars. These people would never “flex” on my truck or even the Audi I used to drive. But everyday since getting a Tesla some Charger challenger corvette or mustang overtakes me at 30 over the speed limit to prove a point. What the point is.... no idea. Keep in mind that I m driving the more “American Made” car of the all of them. That s all. Just a rant. Not angry about any of it but thoroughly confused. What s the lamest reaction that you ve received from an ICE owner? | Sam_Dean_Thumbs_Up | 2019-02-09 23:44:47 | 83 | eg5kmb6 | Seeing alot of weird reasons in here that people seem to be coming up with to explain the ev hate so heres my take. Note I would never intentionally damage soneones car for being an ev. I personally dislike evs because they don t embody any of the aspects that makes a car fun for me. Sure they re fast but just going fast is not necessarily the end all of a fun car. I Iike the sound a car makes the analog feeling of driving an ice the handling and the ability to modify the mechanical parts to your liking. In an ev at most you ll be working with some big heavy battery packs and new electrical motors with most of everything else locked behind software. There are still many ices that I consider dream cars and want to drive one day but the most conflicting fact is that evs will eventually replace all ices on the road and with them everything I find enjoyable in a car. | Undercookedrice | 2019-02-10 13:51:45 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8l5fxt | [Discussion] Why would you give your account credentials to a third-party app ? Security | I have not used any third party apps but when I tried they asked for my Tesla account credentials which make sense to access the data but it should be done through oauth token or something like that. This is a serious security concern and I am not sure why so many people are fine with it. Especially with Tesla your account has so many privileges than any other automaker with your car. So I would recommend against using these apps until there is an alternative such as oauth implemented by Tesla and give selective privileges to these third party apps. | thekalki | 2018-05-21 23:52:15 | 29 | dzd0idx | I appreciate the value a given service provides and I still have trust that not everyone is out to get you. More of a worry to me is if the service gets hacked. Could happen... If it did odds are someone else would have there account compromised first. News like that travels fast and at that point I d change my Tesla account credentials early and perhaps not give it a second try. I also maintain good password policies and make sure to change my Tesla one frequently. A bit of a pain but I figure it s the price of admission. I wish Tesla offered a better architecture for this type of thing I really do. Until then I ve made my peace with it. I also totally understand those who refuse to use the services that requires access to the car. | footbag | 2018-05-22 00:26:52 | 6 | Tesla companion app features |
8l5fxt | [Discussion] Why would you give your account credentials to a third-party app ? Security | I have not used any third party apps but when I tried they asked for my Tesla account credentials which make sense to access the data but it should be done through oauth token or something like that. This is a serious security concern and I am not sure why so many people are fine with it. Especially with Tesla your account has so many privileges than any other automaker with your car. So I would recommend against using these apps until there is an alternative such as oauth implemented by Tesla and give selective privileges to these third party apps. | thekalki | 2018-05-21 23:52:15 | 29 | dzd19w4 | > why would you I don t :) | Jddssc121 | 2018-05-22 00:40:50 | 5 | Tesla companion app features |
aw5m0t | [Discussion] Will Advanced Summon be in March 15th update? | & #x200B https: i.redd.it of1cqfiyqij21.png & #x200B So I noticed the line Summon: your parked car will come find you anywhere in a parking lot. Really. is not listed in the Coming later this year section. It s advertising this feature as if it already exists. Does that mean we are literally weeks away from the car being able to pull out of its spot navigate the lot to find us and pick us up? This seems almost unrealistic to be coming that soon but the way it s advertised right now seriously suggests it is. & #x200B & #x200B Thoughts? | Eldonia | 2019-03-01 14:37:50 | 57 | ehk3i70 | He said it was “imminent” so I m assuming advanced summon will indeed be in the big 15 March update. | BbyDrvr | 2019-03-01 15:09:58 | 17 | Smart Summon Limitations |
aw5m0t | [Discussion] Will Advanced Summon be in March 15th update? | & #x200B https: i.redd.it of1cqfiyqij21.png & #x200B So I noticed the line Summon: your parked car will come find you anywhere in a parking lot. Really. is not listed in the Coming later this year section. It s advertising this feature as if it already exists. Does that mean we are literally weeks away from the car being able to pull out of its spot navigate the lot to find us and pick us up? This seems almost unrealistic to be coming that soon but the way it s advertised right now seriously suggests it is. & #x200B & #x200B Thoughts? | Eldonia | 2019-03-01 14:37:50 | 57 | ehk7ybj | Current summon does not use cameras. Advanced summon does it isnt a hardware 3 reliant technology. So yea completely possible to be pushed out as an update | Lunares | 2019-03-01 16:00:48 | 15 | Smart Summon Limitations |
aw5m0t | [Discussion] Will Advanced Summon be in March 15th update? | & #x200B https: i.redd.it of1cqfiyqij21.png & #x200B So I noticed the line Summon: your parked car will come find you anywhere in a parking lot. Really. is not listed in the Coming later this year section. It s advertising this feature as if it already exists. Does that mean we are literally weeks away from the car being able to pull out of its spot navigate the lot to find us and pick us up? This seems almost unrealistic to be coming that soon but the way it s advertised right now seriously suggests it is. & #x200B & #x200B Thoughts? | Eldonia | 2019-03-01 14:37:50 | 57 | ehk5b28 | In the conference call he said unconfirmed lane change will come first then Advanced Summon after that. My bet is March 15 update is going to be auto NoA and sentry mode. That s it. | tp1996 | 2019-03-01 15:30:50 | 10 | Smart Summon Limitations |
aw5m0t | [Discussion] Will Advanced Summon be in March 15th update? | & #x200B https: i.redd.it of1cqfiyqij21.png & #x200B So I noticed the line Summon: your parked car will come find you anywhere in a parking lot. Really. is not listed in the Coming later this year section. It s advertising this feature as if it already exists. Does that mean we are literally weeks away from the car being able to pull out of its spot navigate the lot to find us and pick us up? This seems almost unrealistic to be coming that soon but the way it s advertised right now seriously suggests it is. & #x200B & #x200B Thoughts? | Eldonia | 2019-03-01 14:37:50 | 57 | ehk2tfv | I tweeted Elon that yesterday hoping to get an answer one day. | 110110 | 2019-03-01 15:01:36 | 6 | Smart Summon Limitations |
aw5m0t | [Discussion] Will Advanced Summon be in March 15th update? | & #x200B https: i.redd.it of1cqfiyqij21.png & #x200B So I noticed the line Summon: your parked car will come find you anywhere in a parking lot. Really. is not listed in the Coming later this year section. It s advertising this feature as if it already exists. Does that mean we are literally weeks away from the car being able to pull out of its spot navigate the lot to find us and pick us up? This seems almost unrealistic to be coming that soon but the way it s advertised right now seriously suggests it is. & #x200B & #x200B Thoughts? | Eldonia | 2019-03-01 14:37:50 | 57 | ehk8kez | With the cars having a 2-4 week shipping time I would assume that in 2 weeks (which would coincide with March 15) those newly shipped cars will have a version capable of it (and everyone else gets it via OTA through a rollout). Here s hoping! | mastastealth | 2019-03-01 16:07:42 | 5 | Smart Summon Limitations |
93bvhp | [Discussion] Will FSD features be an all or nothing deal... or will there be some features rolled out to FSD customers before true FSD is 100% available? | Which features could trickle out first? | JBStroodle | 2018-07-31 05:57:41 | 14 | e3c68g5 | One of the first FSD feature might integration gps navigation with Autopilot. Lane aware supervised freeways autopilot. | inspron2 | 2018-07-31 06:45:59 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
93bvhp | [Discussion] Will FSD features be an all or nothing deal... or will there be some features rolled out to FSD customers before true FSD is 100% available? | Which features could trickle out first? | JBStroodle | 2018-07-31 05:57:41 | 14 | e3c4p4k | My guess is that it will be like a better version of EAP one that can turn and stop a stoplight stop sign but still requires driver attention and very glitchy at first. | smallatom | 2018-07-31 06:03:00 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
93bvhp | [Discussion] Will FSD features be an all or nothing deal... or will there be some features rolled out to FSD customers before true FSD is 100% available? | Which features could trickle out first? | JBStroodle | 2018-07-31 05:57:41 | 14 | e3cgi0u | Almost certainly incremental - aside from the tweet mentioned it s easier better for testing safer and just plain more profitable. Might as well put features out next month vs waiting 5 years. I ll throw my 2 cents into what s first. I m no expert but I write automation software and do a lot of sensing type software as well: Actually u __Tesla__ s list is what I d say since they d finish what they started (ramps speed limit signs) and I think lights are next although color cameras would be ideal for that (right now they re B& W correct)? So Tesla would have to use position but that s not perfect [thanks to local pride keeping green above red for one light](https: gizmodo.com the-story-behind-syracuses-upside-down-traffic-light-1545301615). And the more common 4+ lights where the bottom signal could be different things (green arrow vs red arrow). So I d say: 1) Ramps and speed limit signs 2) Adjacent lane monitoring (use the side cameras) 3) Simple traffic lights 4) At-grade intersections with turn lanes 5) 4+ traffic lights 6) Summon to involve turns parking lots And concurrent with this would be routing traffic optimization. | rnelsonee | 2018-07-31 12:06:34 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
8wbxd2 | [Discussion] Will Model 3 demand sustain at least 5k sales per week with available options? | Right now it seems like you can place a reservation and configure within about 36 hours. Some are even getting VINs and delivery dates for July. I m assuming this means that many reservation holders are still waiting on other options. Can Tesla sustain 5k per week with only the available options? Also wondering how many reservation holders are actually going to go through with the purchase. Thoughts? Edit: I m not worried about Tesla having the resources to produce that many vehicles. Even though reports were coming out that they were pulling from other departments etc. That seems like a relatively easy problem to solve as long as they can sell the cars. | adiddy88 | 2018-07-05 16:40:48 | 12 | e1u9ovr | If you go For a heavily optioned car you can get a quick order. Tesla opens production for $40 000 cars to be a huge influx of many months worth of orders. Then finally the $35000 car which should be able to sell 5k a week until the y comes out. | Vintagesysadmin | 2018-07-05 16:50:59 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8wbxd2 | [Discussion] Will Model 3 demand sustain at least 5k sales per week with available options? | Right now it seems like you can place a reservation and configure within about 36 hours. Some are even getting VINs and delivery dates for July. I m assuming this means that many reservation holders are still waiting on other options. Can Tesla sustain 5k per week with only the available options? Also wondering how many reservation holders are actually going to go through with the purchase. Thoughts? Edit: I m not worried about Tesla having the resources to produce that many vehicles. Even though reports were coming out that they were pulling from other departments etc. That seems like a relatively easy problem to solve as long as they can sell the cars. | adiddy88 | 2018-07-05 16:40:48 | 12 | e1uck3m | The demand for the car is not going to be an issue for Tesla. The backlog alone is several years of production. Then the expanse of the base as people see them and ride in them and get a chance to experience them. I would say they will just go up and up. Then you have the model y and roadster. The demand is never going to be the issue. The supply side will be a major pain point. Then the big scare the cash flow situation. Tesla is not doing amazing at the management of cash flow. The only serious danger is that they burn up cash and no one lends them more the then can t produce the cars and end up In a death debt spiral. This is the danger and it is very real until they break even. I am not even looking for profit just stop loosing money. They do that then the sky is the limit. Credit will be easier to get and refinance of the debt lowering the cost over all making them even more profitable. This all henges on q4 being a solid in the black quarter. They do that we can all start the breath easier. Elon is confident but he has been overly cocky with timelines and cavalier with the finances on the spend side. That does not mean he can not slam dunk it which I think can and will happen it just means there is some real downside risk and not just to the stock price but the whole operation. | sziehr | 2018-07-05 17:31:23 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
93m021 | [Discussion] Will Model 3 use inernational carrier data if you drive from the US to Canada now that Tesla is delivering to Canada? | Just curious. | X3SLA | 2018-08-01 04:59:51 | 34 | e3e9tgv | Pretty sure Canadian cars have US sims in them and are actually always roaming in Canada. I think it s AT& T roaming on Telus up here. I m driving to the US in a couple weeks so I ll def be putting cross border LTE to the test in my Model 3. | superdeanio | 2018-08-01 05:04:26 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
at78wq | [Discussion] Will Tesla ever be DIY? | one of the big appeals about car ownership to me is being able to work on it myself. there is tons i don t know and learning something new is always exciting and interesting especially when it boils down to remove bolt A swap part replace bolt A like most car repair ultimately becomes. i was hoping to someday be able to afford a used Tesla or other EV however as a youtube student of car repair it seems most EV models have the Apple problem of refusing making it insanely difficult to let consumers repair their own vehicles. obviously this is reddit and you all are just fans so maybe this is the wrong place to wonder but maybe someone has some insight into this. will it ever be feasible given the current trends for a consumer to be able to reliably repair their own vehicle using OEM and after market parts while still being able to utilize certified shop repairs for a Tesla out of warranty? or will the market trend of forcing consumers to simply buy new units to keep product sales figures high continue bleeding into the car market the one place where for literal centuries humanity has agreed the consumer has a right to fix it themselves? edit: for context my current vehicle is an 85 Nissan entirely unsupported by warranty discontinued trim pieces etc yet when my windshield wiper assembly snapped in half i got new after market parts installed by Nissan technicians for market prices. i was able to find a refurbished transmission when i needed one also AAA guaranteed and installed at reasonable cost. the stories I m hearing and seeing documented suggest a similar story with Tesla would be substantially different and more complicated though maybe instead it would be door handles and drive units. | galactictaco42 | 2019-02-21 19:25:20 | 11 | egz4z3d | It s a big concern to me but I went ahead and got a Model 3 anyway and I m hoping I ll be able to fix it myself when the time comes. Tesla needs a larger installed base before we really see aftermarket parts for repairs but I think that will come eventually with the Model 3. Then we ll need to wait and see what tends to fail early and often so that the aftermarket companies know what parts will be profitable to make. I don t know if Tesla will ever come around and be willing to sell any and all parts you need direct to a consumer though... They seem to like to keep control over their cars (unfairly in my opinion) just like Apple does with phones. I read on here a while ago that someone couldn t get Tesla to sell them a cabin air filter because they *might* damage something getting to it. That s the kind of crap that would piss me off. | cricket502 | 2019-02-21 19:42:03 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7u1ss6 | [Discussion] Will Tesla s Enhanced Autopilot as described on their site be available this year? | On their site Tesla has these features promised for EAP: Your Tesla will match speed to traffic conditions keep within a lane automatically change lanes without requiring driver input transition from one freeway to another exit the freeway when your destination is near self-park when near a parking spot and be summoned to and from your garage. Once on the freeway your Tesla will determine which lane you need to be in and when. In addition to ensuring you reach your intended exit Autopilot will watch for opportunities to move to a faster lane when you re caught behind slower traffic. When you reach your exit your Tesla will depart the freeway slow down and transition control back to you. | Mi75d | 2018-01-30 15:34:11 | 46 | dtguwrs | I m amazed Tesla hasn t updated this yet. That s a lot of promises. | dubsteponmycat | 2018-01-30 15:43:16 | 27 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
7u1ss6 | [Discussion] Will Tesla s Enhanced Autopilot as described on their site be available this year? | On their site Tesla has these features promised for EAP: Your Tesla will match speed to traffic conditions keep within a lane automatically change lanes without requiring driver input transition from one freeway to another exit the freeway when your destination is near self-park when near a parking spot and be summoned to and from your garage. Once on the freeway your Tesla will determine which lane you need to be in and when. In addition to ensuring you reach your intended exit Autopilot will watch for opportunities to move to a faster lane when you re caught behind slower traffic. When you reach your exit your Tesla will depart the freeway slow down and transition control back to you. | Mi75d | 2018-01-30 15:34:11 | 46 | dth1ykx | > match speed to traffic conditions Got it I think... > keep within a lane Check > automatically change lanes without requiring driver input This will require full use of the side repeater cameras which makes me think this is a little further out. > transition from one freeway to another I think this is closer because of how much they ve improved the ADAS maps. I think this is very likely. > exit the freeway when your destination is near Like the above I think this isn t a problem however they d need to decide what it should do once it get onto the off ramp. Hand-off to the driver since it s not FSD yet or stop at the stop sign stop light at the bottom of the exit for the hand-over? > self-park when near a parking spot and be summoned to and from your garage We arguably have these. Autopark is iffy and summon goes in a straight line. I d like to see both get improved but Tesla could reasonably argue that these features have already been delivered. I think all of these are within the realm of reasonable possibility in 2018 and we might see some of it by the end of Q2. | majesticjg | 2018-01-30 17:35:01 | 12 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
7u1ss6 | [Discussion] Will Tesla s Enhanced Autopilot as described on their site be available this year? | On their site Tesla has these features promised for EAP: Your Tesla will match speed to traffic conditions keep within a lane automatically change lanes without requiring driver input transition from one freeway to another exit the freeway when your destination is near self-park when near a parking spot and be summoned to and from your garage. Once on the freeway your Tesla will determine which lane you need to be in and when. In addition to ensuring you reach your intended exit Autopilot will watch for opportunities to move to a faster lane when you re caught behind slower traffic. When you reach your exit your Tesla will depart the freeway slow down and transition control back to you. | Mi75d | 2018-01-30 15:34:11 | 46 | dtgy3ii | Nope. Every authority figure in self driving thinks you need to have Lidar to have a decent self driving. Tesla does not have one. | realDonaldCreep | 2018-01-30 16:34:44 | 9 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
7u1ss6 | [Discussion] Will Tesla s Enhanced Autopilot as described on their site be available this year? | On their site Tesla has these features promised for EAP: Your Tesla will match speed to traffic conditions keep within a lane automatically change lanes without requiring driver input transition from one freeway to another exit the freeway when your destination is near self-park when near a parking spot and be summoned to and from your garage. Once on the freeway your Tesla will determine which lane you need to be in and when. In addition to ensuring you reach your intended exit Autopilot will watch for opportunities to move to a faster lane when you re caught behind slower traffic. When you reach your exit your Tesla will depart the freeway slow down and transition control back to you. | Mi75d | 2018-01-30 15:34:11 | 46 | dtgwwtk | > automatically change lanes without requiring driver input I think this should be easily achievable. Right now you just need to turn on the signal and the car will find a suitable opportunity to change lane. > When you reach your exit your Tesla will depart the freeway slow down and transition control back to you. I think they should implement this ASAP. Right now all advanced driver assists do not recognize freeway exists and will continue in high speed. After driving for hours with AP I sometimes find it difficult to suddenly return to a full manual mode. There were a couple of close calls for me. The car needs to recognize freeway exits and slow down accordingly. | InquisitorCOC | 2018-01-30 16:15:44 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
7r4bgk | [Discussion] Will all the recent and very positive reviews cause a new surge in orders for the Model 3? | There seem to have been a large number of reviews in the last couple of days from both well known motor publications and other sources. They have been pretty much unanimous in their praise of the car (OK the odd nick pick here and there) and it makes me wonder if this will create a surge in demand. If it does is there anything more Tesla could do to address clearing the orders backlog faster? | ThatIsMrDickHead2You | 2018-01-17 21:10:23 | 64 | dsu3ck6 | No and No. For the demand yes the positive coverage will help but I think the vast majority of people willing to pay $1 000 in order to hopefully get a car in 2 years have already done so. I don t think the general public is ready for such a foreign concept. That said it will help the brand a lot and may even help once the car is generally available. New orders will likely come in but I don t anticipate any major spike ... For clearing the backlog you can be sure that Tesla is already doing everything they can in order to get as many model 3 out the door as possible. | _casshern_ | 2018-01-17 21:19:34 | 18 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
7r4bgk | [Discussion] Will all the recent and very positive reviews cause a new surge in orders for the Model 3? | There seem to have been a large number of reviews in the last couple of days from both well known motor publications and other sources. They have been pretty much unanimous in their praise of the car (OK the odd nick pick here and there) and it makes me wonder if this will create a surge in demand. If it does is there anything more Tesla could do to address clearing the orders backlog faster? | ThatIsMrDickHead2You | 2018-01-17 21:10:23 | 64 | dsu51hr | Anecdotally I m seeing a surge in interest within the extended family thanks to all the news coverage. Suddenly everyone wants one. Thinking I might put in a second reservation for my parents just to get them in the queue. (probably should have done that in 2016) | blueflash17 | 2018-01-17 21:46:08 | 8 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
7r4bgk | [Discussion] Will all the recent and very positive reviews cause a new surge in orders for the Model 3? | There seem to have been a large number of reviews in the last couple of days from both well known motor publications and other sources. They have been pretty much unanimous in their praise of the car (OK the odd nick pick here and there) and it makes me wonder if this will create a surge in demand. If it does is there anything more Tesla could do to address clearing the orders backlog faster? | ThatIsMrDickHead2You | 2018-01-17 21:10:23 | 64 | dsu6eno | I ve not seen any glowing reviews that someone is going to read and then have some epiphany about the car and run out and go buy it if they didn t already have their minds made up one way or another. Really I don t think there s going to be much of that kind of additional surge until the AWD P version arrives and it starts smoking Ferraris and Lamborghinis (if it does). That s the kind of thing that sells cars more than some write-up on CNN or USA Today most people aren t reading anyway. | stevejust | 2018-01-17 22:07:15 | 7 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
aeluof | [Discussion] Will dropping the 75kWh S and X cause software updates to improve the acceleration of Model 3? | We all know that Tesla software limits the power of most if not all Tesla vehicles. This is sometimes done to preserve the hardware but it s also probably done to keep lesser models from outrunning more expensive offerings. With the dropping of the 75kWh battery this makes Model S and X 100kWh only so Tesla could update Model 3 to be faster across all models and still not compete with its more expensive siblings. Thoughts? | dcdttu | 2019-01-10 18:27:30 | 17 | edqc58r | There s always this tweet that I m holding out hope for: https: twitter.com elonmusk status 998762156752449537 | croninsiglos | 2019-01-10 18:31:24 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aun1ci | [Discussion] Will the long range RWD option make a come back any time soon? | Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about this option coming back this year. I (like many others I m sure) don t necessarily need AWD but do need the longest possible battery range. Along with this the efficiency benefit of RWD would be nice in the long run especially for those of us that put on a lot of miles. It would be nice to save a few thousand dollars by removing the front motor from the order if I decide to pull the trigger this year. EDIT: Looks like wishes do come true! | rkr007 | 2019-02-25 16:24:51 | 27 | eh93x4h | There was a thread last week with spreadsheets detailing a number of 2018 LR RWD s still unsold. Contact your local SC and they can tell you if they can get you one. | kurthepilot | 2019-02-25 16:28:31 | 16 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
aun1ci | [Discussion] Will the long range RWD option make a come back any time soon? | Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about this option coming back this year. I (like many others I m sure) don t necessarily need AWD but do need the longest possible battery range. Along with this the efficiency benefit of RWD would be nice in the long run especially for those of us that put on a lot of miles. It would be nice to save a few thousand dollars by removing the front motor from the order if I decide to pull the trigger this year. EDIT: Looks like wishes do come true! | rkr007 | 2019-02-25 16:24:51 | 27 | eh93vbr | They still have about 250 still in inventory around the country if you want to buy one of those. | tynamic77 | 2019-02-25 16:27:56 | 9 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
aun1ci | [Discussion] Will the long range RWD option make a come back any time soon? | Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about this option coming back this year. I (like many others I m sure) don t necessarily need AWD but do need the longest possible battery range. Along with this the efficiency benefit of RWD would be nice in the long run especially for those of us that put on a lot of miles. It would be nice to save a few thousand dollars by removing the front motor from the order if I decide to pull the trigger this year. EDIT: Looks like wishes do come true! | rkr007 | 2019-02-25 16:24:51 | 27 | eh94aw3 | Does this mean mine is a delicacy? | sk8erpunc | 2019-02-25 16:33:03 | 7 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
8tx8wy | [Discussion] Window tint on the Model 3... anyone else have trouble getting it done right? | I got my Model 3 tinted a few weeks ago. 30% 3M Ceramic on Sides 20% on the top back 80% on the front. I gave it a week after for it to dry out and settle in and the front window had a cluster of bubbles right in the passengers field of view and the back window had numerous wrinkle looking bubbles and other smaller bubbles near the bottom. The shop didn t argue about needing to replace the front and rear and took care of it at the 2 week mark. I also had them tint the sun roof (didn t realize it wasn t included in their standard package) at that time. So... looking at it now... front looks much better. No bubbles. There is a line or two where it looks like maybe they gouged it a bit with a tool but it s near the edge and shouldn t be an issue. Looking at the back... there are still bubbles near the bottom... bottom right (passenger) there s a cluster one spot is obviously a speck of something under the film. The rest just look like bubbles that never went away. There are a couple spots around the defrosting lines that isn t stuck down well. At this point I m wondering how perfect should it be? If it looks good from a few feet away is that fine? Should I let them try to work out the issues one last time and just live with it unless the bubbles get worse? Really my concern is just if they get worse over time but the warranty is good so if in a year it bubbled up I could get it replaced then. I dunno... tinting this car isn t cheap... $385 for sides back $150 for front... $130 for sunroof. After tax it s over $700. Seems like it should be perfect but I haven t paid to have tint put on in a decade. Thoughts? | DamnRock | 2018-06-26 04:49:45 | 14 | e1b099r | Doesn t sound like a Tesla problem. Sounds like a shop problem. And FWIW good tint can run $700 before tax just for 4 sides + rear. | Jddssc121 | 2018-06-26 05:47:22 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
ahygq1 | [Discussion] Winter experience with Model 3 (not driving) | I m in Toronto and in the past 36 hours we ve been slammed by one heck of a winter storm. Temps were around -15c (5f) yesterday with tons of snow and while the precipitation has stopped the mercury is dropping further to -23c (-9f) later today. In other words real winter. I also don t have a garage so my Tesla is parked in the elements. I m curious to hear about tips and tricks people have around operating the car in these conditions. Not driving per se the Model 3 snow handling capabilities are well documented and driving around yesterday I felt like I was in a high performance tank! But the rest of the experience left me a bit frustrated. Specifically: - the wipers!! Yesterday s snow fell wet and froze upon landing. That was fine for the glass surfaces but wipers receded into this little well (for aerodynamic reasons) that became a solid chunk of ice. As there is no heat there there was no way to prevent this from happening. Whenever I stopped for an errand I d put the wipers on service mode so they would sit on the glass and thaw a bit but the results were really mixed. - heaters!! Sure the electric heaters are awesome but controlling the vents and air flow is super frustrating. I feel like I need a neuralink helmet or something because the car tries to be smart and really it doesn t know squat about cold winter management. I wish there was a way to put the system in true manual mode. For example the car kept kicking off the front defroster when all I wanted to do was keep a constant flow of hot air on the windshield. This compounded the wiper issue. - app control! It s been commented on in these forums before but Tesla really needs to give us direct front and rear defroster control in the app. Whatever algorithm they use to decide to turn it on is not good. Having this control would have been a life saver yesterday! I will add that I had to power port issues which is good. I m on 2018.50.5. Also while scraping off the car this morning (it was under a foot of snow) I knew to run a credit car along the window edge where it meets the door. As a result doors opened perfectly. Cleaning out the windshield went pretty well too though had to open frunk to clean out the wiper well. So that s my first major winter storm experience. Welcome the feedback and tips tricks. All the best! | curly7733 | 2019-01-20 15:17:11 | 115 | eejum1q | Today it has been -8 degrees C and it snowed last night. All windows frozen. All doors frozen shut (had to yank with all my might). Gas cap frozen. Windows frozen from the outside and inside. No hope of opening them. Scraping them from the inside causes snowfall inside the car. 10 cm of snow on the car which takes ages to swipe. Lights covered in ice. Car barely starting and it spews terrible obnoxious fumes for the first 15 minutes as the engine heats up. Even after half an hour of driving not all windows are free of ice. I can t wait for my Model 3 to replace my current vehicle. The problems people are having sound like a heaven to me. 😄 | ecyrd | 2019-01-20 17:58:48 | 15 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahygq1 | [Discussion] Winter experience with Model 3 (not driving) | I m in Toronto and in the past 36 hours we ve been slammed by one heck of a winter storm. Temps were around -15c (5f) yesterday with tons of snow and while the precipitation has stopped the mercury is dropping further to -23c (-9f) later today. In other words real winter. I also don t have a garage so my Tesla is parked in the elements. I m curious to hear about tips and tricks people have around operating the car in these conditions. Not driving per se the Model 3 snow handling capabilities are well documented and driving around yesterday I felt like I was in a high performance tank! But the rest of the experience left me a bit frustrated. Specifically: - the wipers!! Yesterday s snow fell wet and froze upon landing. That was fine for the glass surfaces but wipers receded into this little well (for aerodynamic reasons) that became a solid chunk of ice. As there is no heat there there was no way to prevent this from happening. Whenever I stopped for an errand I d put the wipers on service mode so they would sit on the glass and thaw a bit but the results were really mixed. - heaters!! Sure the electric heaters are awesome but controlling the vents and air flow is super frustrating. I feel like I need a neuralink helmet or something because the car tries to be smart and really it doesn t know squat about cold winter management. I wish there was a way to put the system in true manual mode. For example the car kept kicking off the front defroster when all I wanted to do was keep a constant flow of hot air on the windshield. This compounded the wiper issue. - app control! It s been commented on in these forums before but Tesla really needs to give us direct front and rear defroster control in the app. Whatever algorithm they use to decide to turn it on is not good. Having this control would have been a life saver yesterday! I will add that I had to power port issues which is good. I m on 2018.50.5. Also while scraping off the car this morning (it was under a foot of snow) I knew to run a credit car along the window edge where it meets the door. As a result doors opened perfectly. Cleaning out the windshield went pretty well too though had to open frunk to clean out the wiper well. So that s my first major winter storm experience. Welcome the feedback and tips tricks. All the best! | curly7733 | 2019-01-20 15:17:11 | 115 | eeji4yd | This is what I m worried about haven t gotten a Tesla yet and I ll be parking in the elements without electric hookup. I m dealing with the snow rain frozen slush as we speak right now. On my Subaru the wipers are exposed so even if it does freeze solid I can run the car and heaters for a bit maybe scrape a bit and it s not impossible to clear. I m worried about the hidden wipers. | 42nd_towel | 2019-01-20 16:09:00 | 12 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahygq1 | [Discussion] Winter experience with Model 3 (not driving) | I m in Toronto and in the past 36 hours we ve been slammed by one heck of a winter storm. Temps were around -15c (5f) yesterday with tons of snow and while the precipitation has stopped the mercury is dropping further to -23c (-9f) later today. In other words real winter. I also don t have a garage so my Tesla is parked in the elements. I m curious to hear about tips and tricks people have around operating the car in these conditions. Not driving per se the Model 3 snow handling capabilities are well documented and driving around yesterday I felt like I was in a high performance tank! But the rest of the experience left me a bit frustrated. Specifically: - the wipers!! Yesterday s snow fell wet and froze upon landing. That was fine for the glass surfaces but wipers receded into this little well (for aerodynamic reasons) that became a solid chunk of ice. As there is no heat there there was no way to prevent this from happening. Whenever I stopped for an errand I d put the wipers on service mode so they would sit on the glass and thaw a bit but the results were really mixed. - heaters!! Sure the electric heaters are awesome but controlling the vents and air flow is super frustrating. I feel like I need a neuralink helmet or something because the car tries to be smart and really it doesn t know squat about cold winter management. I wish there was a way to put the system in true manual mode. For example the car kept kicking off the front defroster when all I wanted to do was keep a constant flow of hot air on the windshield. This compounded the wiper issue. - app control! It s been commented on in these forums before but Tesla really needs to give us direct front and rear defroster control in the app. Whatever algorithm they use to decide to turn it on is not good. Having this control would have been a life saver yesterday! I will add that I had to power port issues which is good. I m on 2018.50.5. Also while scraping off the car this morning (it was under a foot of snow) I knew to run a credit car along the window edge where it meets the door. As a result doors opened perfectly. Cleaning out the windshield went pretty well too though had to open frunk to clean out the wiper well. So that s my first major winter storm experience. Welcome the feedback and tips tricks. All the best! | curly7733 | 2019-01-20 15:17:11 | 115 | eejomhq | I think you covered this but not sure if it s entirely related. What is annoying to me is I have to have the the heat on manual mode so I can direct warm air to the windshield via the front defrost vent (it s -6F here today). I just want to be able to use auto mode but that mode seemingly always disables the front defrost vent so I am forced to use manual. Why in the hell can I not decide which vents to use in auto mode? You can really tell that the engineers at Tesla have never had any real world experience or grew up live in climates that have extreme cold. A lot of these things are really basic things a car should be able to do. | sr_erick | 2019-01-20 17:09:08 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahygq1 | [Discussion] Winter experience with Model 3 (not driving) | I m in Toronto and in the past 36 hours we ve been slammed by one heck of a winter storm. Temps were around -15c (5f) yesterday with tons of snow and while the precipitation has stopped the mercury is dropping further to -23c (-9f) later today. In other words real winter. I also don t have a garage so my Tesla is parked in the elements. I m curious to hear about tips and tricks people have around operating the car in these conditions. Not driving per se the Model 3 snow handling capabilities are well documented and driving around yesterday I felt like I was in a high performance tank! But the rest of the experience left me a bit frustrated. Specifically: - the wipers!! Yesterday s snow fell wet and froze upon landing. That was fine for the glass surfaces but wipers receded into this little well (for aerodynamic reasons) that became a solid chunk of ice. As there is no heat there there was no way to prevent this from happening. Whenever I stopped for an errand I d put the wipers on service mode so they would sit on the glass and thaw a bit but the results were really mixed. - heaters!! Sure the electric heaters are awesome but controlling the vents and air flow is super frustrating. I feel like I need a neuralink helmet or something because the car tries to be smart and really it doesn t know squat about cold winter management. I wish there was a way to put the system in true manual mode. For example the car kept kicking off the front defroster when all I wanted to do was keep a constant flow of hot air on the windshield. This compounded the wiper issue. - app control! It s been commented on in these forums before but Tesla really needs to give us direct front and rear defroster control in the app. Whatever algorithm they use to decide to turn it on is not good. Having this control would have been a life saver yesterday! I will add that I had to power port issues which is good. I m on 2018.50.5. Also while scraping off the car this morning (it was under a foot of snow) I knew to run a credit car along the window edge where it meets the door. As a result doors opened perfectly. Cleaning out the windshield went pretty well too though had to open frunk to clean out the wiper well. So that s my first major winter storm experience. Welcome the feedback and tips tricks. All the best! | curly7733 | 2019-01-20 15:17:11 | 115 | eejsev6 | Model X owner here with the cold weather package. The wipers are garbage and highly dangerous with sleet or icy snow. I ve had to pull over a few times just to break the ice off the wipers so I can see again. Even in regular rain the wipers are awful. | VoodooBat | 2019-01-20 17:40:16 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahygq1 | [Discussion] Winter experience with Model 3 (not driving) | I m in Toronto and in the past 36 hours we ve been slammed by one heck of a winter storm. Temps were around -15c (5f) yesterday with tons of snow and while the precipitation has stopped the mercury is dropping further to -23c (-9f) later today. In other words real winter. I also don t have a garage so my Tesla is parked in the elements. I m curious to hear about tips and tricks people have around operating the car in these conditions. Not driving per se the Model 3 snow handling capabilities are well documented and driving around yesterday I felt like I was in a high performance tank! But the rest of the experience left me a bit frustrated. Specifically: - the wipers!! Yesterday s snow fell wet and froze upon landing. That was fine for the glass surfaces but wipers receded into this little well (for aerodynamic reasons) that became a solid chunk of ice. As there is no heat there there was no way to prevent this from happening. Whenever I stopped for an errand I d put the wipers on service mode so they would sit on the glass and thaw a bit but the results were really mixed. - heaters!! Sure the electric heaters are awesome but controlling the vents and air flow is super frustrating. I feel like I need a neuralink helmet or something because the car tries to be smart and really it doesn t know squat about cold winter management. I wish there was a way to put the system in true manual mode. For example the car kept kicking off the front defroster when all I wanted to do was keep a constant flow of hot air on the windshield. This compounded the wiper issue. - app control! It s been commented on in these forums before but Tesla really needs to give us direct front and rear defroster control in the app. Whatever algorithm they use to decide to turn it on is not good. Having this control would have been a life saver yesterday! I will add that I had to power port issues which is good. I m on 2018.50.5. Also while scraping off the car this morning (it was under a foot of snow) I knew to run a credit car along the window edge where it meets the door. As a result doors opened perfectly. Cleaning out the windshield went pretty well too though had to open frunk to clean out the wiper well. So that s my first major winter storm experience. Welcome the feedback and tips tricks. All the best! | curly7733 | 2019-01-20 15:17:11 | 115 | eel0cvx | Also in Toronto. I can corroborate most of your experiences. My Model 3 is also out in the elements - I keep it plugged in at home and get it heated up well before I go out to it. One thing you might not know - if you double tap the air condition venting it pumps heat at full temperature into the windshield which seemed to make a big difference when the icy slosh was at its worst. I definitely don t love how challenging it is to manage the wipers under adverse conditions. I m now nervous about a long drive in less-than-ideal conditions. We have winter tires bought directly from Tesla. Driving on snowy roads hasn t been a ton of fun as the car slides a bit more than I d like. I put the acceleration into Chill mode today but that hasn t helped with turns off of clear roads onto snowy roads. | Haquistadore | 2019-01-21 00:47:07 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahygq1 | [Discussion] Winter experience with Model 3 (not driving) | I m in Toronto and in the past 36 hours we ve been slammed by one heck of a winter storm. Temps were around -15c (5f) yesterday with tons of snow and while the precipitation has stopped the mercury is dropping further to -23c (-9f) later today. In other words real winter. I also don t have a garage so my Tesla is parked in the elements. I m curious to hear about tips and tricks people have around operating the car in these conditions. Not driving per se the Model 3 snow handling capabilities are well documented and driving around yesterday I felt like I was in a high performance tank! But the rest of the experience left me a bit frustrated. Specifically: - the wipers!! Yesterday s snow fell wet and froze upon landing. That was fine for the glass surfaces but wipers receded into this little well (for aerodynamic reasons) that became a solid chunk of ice. As there is no heat there there was no way to prevent this from happening. Whenever I stopped for an errand I d put the wipers on service mode so they would sit on the glass and thaw a bit but the results were really mixed. - heaters!! Sure the electric heaters are awesome but controlling the vents and air flow is super frustrating. I feel like I need a neuralink helmet or something because the car tries to be smart and really it doesn t know squat about cold winter management. I wish there was a way to put the system in true manual mode. For example the car kept kicking off the front defroster when all I wanted to do was keep a constant flow of hot air on the windshield. This compounded the wiper issue. - app control! It s been commented on in these forums before but Tesla really needs to give us direct front and rear defroster control in the app. Whatever algorithm they use to decide to turn it on is not good. Having this control would have been a life saver yesterday! I will add that I had to power port issues which is good. I m on 2018.50.5. Also while scraping off the car this morning (it was under a foot of snow) I knew to run a credit car along the window edge where it meets the door. As a result doors opened perfectly. Cleaning out the windshield went pretty well too though had to open frunk to clean out the wiper well. So that s my first major winter storm experience. Welcome the feedback and tips tricks. All the best! | curly7733 | 2019-01-20 15:17:11 | 115 | eejphnh | Just upvoted your post. Maybe enough attention will make it visible to the right people and eventually updates to system and app will be shipped 💁🏼♂️ | uNki23 | 2019-01-20 17:16:14 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahygq1 | [Discussion] Winter experience with Model 3 (not driving) | I m in Toronto and in the past 36 hours we ve been slammed by one heck of a winter storm. Temps were around -15c (5f) yesterday with tons of snow and while the precipitation has stopped the mercury is dropping further to -23c (-9f) later today. In other words real winter. I also don t have a garage so my Tesla is parked in the elements. I m curious to hear about tips and tricks people have around operating the car in these conditions. Not driving per se the Model 3 snow handling capabilities are well documented and driving around yesterday I felt like I was in a high performance tank! But the rest of the experience left me a bit frustrated. Specifically: - the wipers!! Yesterday s snow fell wet and froze upon landing. That was fine for the glass surfaces but wipers receded into this little well (for aerodynamic reasons) that became a solid chunk of ice. As there is no heat there there was no way to prevent this from happening. Whenever I stopped for an errand I d put the wipers on service mode so they would sit on the glass and thaw a bit but the results were really mixed. - heaters!! Sure the electric heaters are awesome but controlling the vents and air flow is super frustrating. I feel like I need a neuralink helmet or something because the car tries to be smart and really it doesn t know squat about cold winter management. I wish there was a way to put the system in true manual mode. For example the car kept kicking off the front defroster when all I wanted to do was keep a constant flow of hot air on the windshield. This compounded the wiper issue. - app control! It s been commented on in these forums before but Tesla really needs to give us direct front and rear defroster control in the app. Whatever algorithm they use to decide to turn it on is not good. Having this control would have been a life saver yesterday! I will add that I had to power port issues which is good. I m on 2018.50.5. Also while scraping off the car this morning (it was under a foot of snow) I knew to run a credit car along the window edge where it meets the door. As a result doors opened perfectly. Cleaning out the windshield went pretty well too though had to open frunk to clean out the wiper well. So that s my first major winter storm experience. Welcome the feedback and tips tricks. All the best! | curly7733 | 2019-01-20 15:17:11 | 115 | eel1sd7 | The lack of a subzero or winter package this year was disappointing. If the wipers sat on defrost elements like the rear windows have that would have been great. The rubber on the wipers hardens in the cold as I m sure you ve noticed and they become ineffective even if the precipitation on the windscreen is melted. As for your HVAC woes I have a suggestion. Put it in manual mode turn the fan speed up and turn on the top windscreen vents. Once the windscreen is thawed with defrost mode running the fan at 3 or 4 when driving around town is enough to keep it that way. On the highway you re going to need 6 or 7 on days down in the negatives. This keeps that constant flow of hot air on the glass you re looking for. In more comfortable 0C temperatures I find that the system in auto mode keeps up fine as long as I m not driving on the highway. My Subaru has probably the best HVAC system I ve ever experienced my windows never fogged and I was able to thaw them out pretty much no matter what. Then again now I have a leak in the Subaru s A C system now so it doesn t remove moisture at all. | drdabbles | 2019-01-21 01:04:47 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9sc8d6 | [Discussion] Winter tire setup and advice? | I m looking to get a set of wheels for winter before the weather hits but really don t know much about 3rd party tires and compatibility. I was told at our closest that Tesla is going to release a 20 winter wheel tire package but I can t find it. That being said I ve been using these as resources: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7t97pl model_3_stock_aftermarket_wheel_info and https: tsportline.com blogs owners-guide the-tesla-model-3-wheel-guide For starters I have a Model 3 dual motor LR AWD with 19 stock wheels currently. This is the wheel tire combo I am considering: Wheel: TSW CADWELL 20X8.5 5 114.3 ET40 CB76.1 GUNMETAL MIRROR CUT FACE LIP Winter Tires: NOKIAN HAKKAPELIITTA 8 - 235 40R19 96H XL Studded Hubcentric Rings: http: www.justforwheels.com index.jsp?ID=64.1& OD=76.1& sub=ringsresults& cat=hubcentric I am hoping that someone more competent that I can let me know if this setup would work or if there are some glaring issues with it. I still need to find reliable TM3 TPMS. I do realize that the larger wheels will require some kind of re-calibration to dial the range in. I m assuming I can make a service appointment with Tesla to do that? Any help would be much appreciated. | Gobias11 | 2018-10-29 11:27:20 | 18 | e8nsqha | Why would you buy 20s for the winter? More expensive tires easier to become unbalanced and much more susceptible to bending by hitting potholes. | flyinfishface | 2018-10-29 13:23:10 | 10 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
9tj7qi | [Discussion] With more and more Model 3s will autopilot NN learning grow (even more) exponentially | There was a post on here yesterday that got me thinking about this. Assuming that AP1 Teslas can t contribute by the start of 2018 there was probably like 185k AP2+ Teslas driving and shadow learning. Assuming now they ve made about 75k S X plus 115k Model 3s. They ve produced the same amount as all of 2016 and 2017 combined and 2018 isn t even over yet. So even though my brain is having a hard time believing that my car will drive around some parking lots and park itself by the end of the year it might actually happen. Although it would probably start with ‘Seek and park mode with the driver required and then in February or something release the real deal. EDIT: From the comments seems like I got a little ahead of myself. 6 weeks I guess is just improved summon and drive the car like an RC car. Seek and park is further down the road. I also wonder if it s a FSD feature? But my main thought still stands on the acceleration with more trainers out there. | dizzy113 | 2018-11-02 11:33:22 | 23 | e8x1e9c | Lot of learning is done manually. There is very little if anything that the car is actually learning itself and reporting back. This can only happen once the NN is solid enough to not teach itself wrong things. | tp1996 | 2018-11-02 15:34:14 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
9tj7qi | [Discussion] With more and more Model 3s will autopilot NN learning grow (even more) exponentially | There was a post on here yesterday that got me thinking about this. Assuming that AP1 Teslas can t contribute by the start of 2018 there was probably like 185k AP2+ Teslas driving and shadow learning. Assuming now they ve made about 75k S X plus 115k Model 3s. They ve produced the same amount as all of 2016 and 2017 combined and 2018 isn t even over yet. So even though my brain is having a hard time believing that my car will drive around some parking lots and park itself by the end of the year it might actually happen. Although it would probably start with ‘Seek and park mode with the driver required and then in February or something release the real deal. EDIT: From the comments seems like I got a little ahead of myself. 6 weeks I guess is just improved summon and drive the car like an RC car. Seek and park is further down the road. I also wonder if it s a FSD feature? But my main thought still stands on the acceleration with more trainers out there. | dizzy113 | 2018-11-02 11:33:22 | 23 | e8wo0j8 | A lot of the edge case classification is done manually. I believe their limiting factor for a fair number of learning areas is limited by the size of their workforce. So yes and no I d say. | keco185 | 2018-11-02 12:01:37 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
844h04 | [Discussion] With the end of the full $7500 tax credit looming will there be a rush of orders trying to beat the deadline (probably by 9 30)? | The overwhelming consensus seems to be that Tesla will hit the 200K U.S. sales mark in 2Q 18 which means the full tax credit will expire on 30 September. I configured my Model 3 on 2 22 and am currently waiting for VIN assignment and delivery. With the imminence of my Model 3 delivery my wife is now fully on board the Tesla train (toot toot) and has her eye on a Model X (under the thinly veiled excuse of needing a 3rd row for kiddos). We were thinking about spacing out the two vehicle purchases over a year or so. Partly to spread out expenses but also because I m hoping for an X refresh or at least an upgrade to the touchscreen or battery pack...but I also hate to miss out on the tax credit. So I was considering ordering such that we could take delivery in September and just squeeze into the $7500 window. Which made me think...there has to be a bunch of people considering the same move. Of course now I m anxious that there s going to be a burst of orders sometime in June July of people trying to guarantee delivery before September with the result that delivery windows quickly jump into Q4. So now I m in full on game theory mode trying to figure out if I should wait until July and hope for September delivery or try to shift some monies around so we can just go ahead and order earlier and not worry about it. So a couple of discussion points for the community: * Do you think Tesla is anticipating such a rush of orders and actively planning a way to get as many deliveries out the door by 30 September as possible? Or do they not really care about making any heroic efforts? * Current delivery estimates for S and X are into June (3 months lead time). Will those lead times shorten back to 60 days once Model 3 production gets going in earnest (ostensibly this month or next)? Or will the lead times continue as is (or grow) as resources are dedicated to the Model 3 line? * Do you think Tesla has an internal priority preference for getting more S X orders out the door before the full tax credit expiration or for the many Model 3 SR AWD reservation holders who have patiently waited the last 2 years? I realize posting this has the potential to speed up the very phenomenon I m worrying about...but such is my obsession with this community that I m willing to feed my angst for the sake of some good discussion. | Sacaraster | 2018-03-13 14:17:37 | 44 | dvmsqyh | * You have about 3 months time left to decide on the X. You can monitor the order to delivery times [here](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1p5vN-xTC5yM0siwdP9XCldds2b_CGV36yuJvs1PHp48 edit#gid=1092942594). * The 30 Sep 2018 deadline to take delivery is 95% certain at this point. It will become clearer on 3 or 4 April when Tesla releases their Q1 sales numbers. * My current calculations show that they are at 178 296 units sold in the US as of today and they are expected to reach 200K on 9 May 2018. Any day in Q2 means full credits will last until the end of Q3. Therefore people who are claiming we don t know are missing the point. We don t need to know the exact 200K date. We just need to know the quarter. * The Model 3 has a different production line in Fremont and uses Gigafactory cells. Therefore increasing Model 3 production doesn t mean reducing S X. My suggestion would be not to buy the X unless you are buying the Model X 100D or you have another large car for long distance trips because otherwise it won t be as good as the Model 3 for long distance trips. This is related to Supercharging tapering as the battery gets fuller. With the X75D you can t avoid getting close to 100% at Superchargers. When you get close to 100% Supercharging is extremely slow. Your Supercharge times in the X75D will most likely be double of the Model 3. For more info check [this](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=RNd6FsTC6eA& feature=youtu.be& t=99) and [this](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=x1Crnb6kSss& feature=youtu.be) video and watch the speeds close to 100%. Also wait for your Model 3 and take it on a long distance trip you might do regularly. Then rent a Model X 75D and try the same trip. The Model 3 will be far superior in terms of Supercharge times and the speed you can drive between Superchargers. Limited range means slowing down to preserve range. The X will actually tell you to slow down to reach your destination. This is a bigger issue in winter when the car has 20% less range. You will lose another 15% if you pick the large wheels. So don t do that. See Tesla s warning [here](https: i.imgur.com pqDtt3E.jpg). | Teslike | 2018-03-13 15:37:05 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
844h04 | [Discussion] With the end of the full $7500 tax credit looming will there be a rush of orders trying to beat the deadline (probably by 9 30)? | The overwhelming consensus seems to be that Tesla will hit the 200K U.S. sales mark in 2Q 18 which means the full tax credit will expire on 30 September. I configured my Model 3 on 2 22 and am currently waiting for VIN assignment and delivery. With the imminence of my Model 3 delivery my wife is now fully on board the Tesla train (toot toot) and has her eye on a Model X (under the thinly veiled excuse of needing a 3rd row for kiddos). We were thinking about spacing out the two vehicle purchases over a year or so. Partly to spread out expenses but also because I m hoping for an X refresh or at least an upgrade to the touchscreen or battery pack...but I also hate to miss out on the tax credit. So I was considering ordering such that we could take delivery in September and just squeeze into the $7500 window. Which made me think...there has to be a bunch of people considering the same move. Of course now I m anxious that there s going to be a burst of orders sometime in June July of people trying to guarantee delivery before September with the result that delivery windows quickly jump into Q4. So now I m in full on game theory mode trying to figure out if I should wait until July and hope for September delivery or try to shift some monies around so we can just go ahead and order earlier and not worry about it. So a couple of discussion points for the community: * Do you think Tesla is anticipating such a rush of orders and actively planning a way to get as many deliveries out the door by 30 September as possible? Or do they not really care about making any heroic efforts? * Current delivery estimates for S and X are into June (3 months lead time). Will those lead times shorten back to 60 days once Model 3 production gets going in earnest (ostensibly this month or next)? Or will the lead times continue as is (or grow) as resources are dedicated to the Model 3 line? * Do you think Tesla has an internal priority preference for getting more S X orders out the door before the full tax credit expiration or for the many Model 3 SR AWD reservation holders who have patiently waited the last 2 years? I realize posting this has the potential to speed up the very phenomenon I m worrying about...but such is my obsession with this community that I m willing to feed my angst for the sake of some good discussion. | Sacaraster | 2018-03-13 14:17:37 | 44 | dvmp11u | > Do you think Tesla is anticipating such a rush of orders and actively planning a way to get as many deliveries out the door by 30 September as possible? My best answer would be no only because they re *already* trying to rush as many cars out the door (all models have a significant delay and all models still have more demand than supply). So yes but they re not going to do anything different. There is the hopeful move that Tesla will divert sales to international markets or something if they can stave off 200 000 to just past the end of the quarter they would normally hit 200 000. Very real possibility but of course only if the demand is there (in Canada etc). > Will those lead times shorten back to 60 days once Model 3 production gets going in earnest From what I understand lead times are always high at the beginning of the quarter due to the rush to get out vehicles at the end of the quarter... but yeah it s the end of the quarter now so... I don t know. But the Model 3 is on a different line than X and S so I would expect longish lead times. > Do you think Tesla has an internal priority preference for getting more S X orders out the door before the full tax credit expiration No - the S and X make more profit but there s so much riding on the 3 they need to crank them out too. So back to my first point Tesla is churning out what they can and I don t think they re as concerned about the tax credit as we are (especially Model 3 res holders). I do expect a large influx of Model 3 orders as soon as it crystallizes when Tesla will hit 200 000 and that shouldn t affect S or X but who knows. Since we all know Tesla is *terrible* at two things: customer communication and meeting deadlines. So I don t expect the SR Model 3 - a favorite for price-sensitive Model 3 buyers - in 2018 and I don t expect Tesla to give any warning (outside essentially mandated earnings calls). So expect a rush of orders as the SR hopefuls give up and settle for a LR with a full credit. | rnelsonee | 2018-03-13 14:37:43 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
844h04 | [Discussion] With the end of the full $7500 tax credit looming will there be a rush of orders trying to beat the deadline (probably by 9 30)? | The overwhelming consensus seems to be that Tesla will hit the 200K U.S. sales mark in 2Q 18 which means the full tax credit will expire on 30 September. I configured my Model 3 on 2 22 and am currently waiting for VIN assignment and delivery. With the imminence of my Model 3 delivery my wife is now fully on board the Tesla train (toot toot) and has her eye on a Model X (under the thinly veiled excuse of needing a 3rd row for kiddos). We were thinking about spacing out the two vehicle purchases over a year or so. Partly to spread out expenses but also because I m hoping for an X refresh or at least an upgrade to the touchscreen or battery pack...but I also hate to miss out on the tax credit. So I was considering ordering such that we could take delivery in September and just squeeze into the $7500 window. Which made me think...there has to be a bunch of people considering the same move. Of course now I m anxious that there s going to be a burst of orders sometime in June July of people trying to guarantee delivery before September with the result that delivery windows quickly jump into Q4. So now I m in full on game theory mode trying to figure out if I should wait until July and hope for September delivery or try to shift some monies around so we can just go ahead and order earlier and not worry about it. So a couple of discussion points for the community: * Do you think Tesla is anticipating such a rush of orders and actively planning a way to get as many deliveries out the door by 30 September as possible? Or do they not really care about making any heroic efforts? * Current delivery estimates for S and X are into June (3 months lead time). Will those lead times shorten back to 60 days once Model 3 production gets going in earnest (ostensibly this month or next)? Or will the lead times continue as is (or grow) as resources are dedicated to the Model 3 line? * Do you think Tesla has an internal priority preference for getting more S X orders out the door before the full tax credit expiration or for the many Model 3 SR AWD reservation holders who have patiently waited the last 2 years? I realize posting this has the potential to speed up the very phenomenon I m worrying about...but such is my obsession with this community that I m willing to feed my angst for the sake of some good discussion. | Sacaraster | 2018-03-13 14:17:37 | 44 | dvmvcm2 | > The overwhelming consensus seems to be that Tesla will hit the 200K U.S. sales mark in 2Q 18 which means the full tax credit will expire on 30 September. I disagree that they ll hit 200k US sales in Q2. So far Model S X sales are down compared to last year and the Model 3 ramp has been a little slower than their initial estimates. They have also moved up estimates for some Canadian reservation holders. While they could crank out as many US cars as possible as quickly as possible my guess is that they ll prioritize international deliveries if they approach 200k US sales near the end of Q2. Doing otherwise would be costly for some reservation holders and hit Tesla s bottom line a bit. Having more time before they ramp up production also means they can sort out more issues. Besides reducing the number of US customers who could get the tax credit ramping as quickly as possible also increases the chances that they ll have to slow production because of some issue they could have sorted out if they had taken things slower. | omgwtfbyobbq | 2018-03-13 16:16:05 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
844h04 | [Discussion] With the end of the full $7500 tax credit looming will there be a rush of orders trying to beat the deadline (probably by 9 30)? | The overwhelming consensus seems to be that Tesla will hit the 200K U.S. sales mark in 2Q 18 which means the full tax credit will expire on 30 September. I configured my Model 3 on 2 22 and am currently waiting for VIN assignment and delivery. With the imminence of my Model 3 delivery my wife is now fully on board the Tesla train (toot toot) and has her eye on a Model X (under the thinly veiled excuse of needing a 3rd row for kiddos). We were thinking about spacing out the two vehicle purchases over a year or so. Partly to spread out expenses but also because I m hoping for an X refresh or at least an upgrade to the touchscreen or battery pack...but I also hate to miss out on the tax credit. So I was considering ordering such that we could take delivery in September and just squeeze into the $7500 window. Which made me think...there has to be a bunch of people considering the same move. Of course now I m anxious that there s going to be a burst of orders sometime in June July of people trying to guarantee delivery before September with the result that delivery windows quickly jump into Q4. So now I m in full on game theory mode trying to figure out if I should wait until July and hope for September delivery or try to shift some monies around so we can just go ahead and order earlier and not worry about it. So a couple of discussion points for the community: * Do you think Tesla is anticipating such a rush of orders and actively planning a way to get as many deliveries out the door by 30 September as possible? Or do they not really care about making any heroic efforts? * Current delivery estimates for S and X are into June (3 months lead time). Will those lead times shorten back to 60 days once Model 3 production gets going in earnest (ostensibly this month or next)? Or will the lead times continue as is (or grow) as resources are dedicated to the Model 3 line? * Do you think Tesla has an internal priority preference for getting more S X orders out the door before the full tax credit expiration or for the many Model 3 SR AWD reservation holders who have patiently waited the last 2 years? I realize posting this has the potential to speed up the very phenomenon I m worrying about...but such is my obsession with this community that I m willing to feed my angst for the sake of some good discussion. | Sacaraster | 2018-03-13 14:17:37 | 44 | dvmpwx0 | There will always be an end of quarter push and there will be a bunch of people who s orders don t get delivered in time. This happens every quarter but yes there will be a madhouse at every delivery center when that quarter happens. | midfielder4929 | 2018-03-13 14:52:11 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
844h04 | [Discussion] With the end of the full $7500 tax credit looming will there be a rush of orders trying to beat the deadline (probably by 9 30)? | The overwhelming consensus seems to be that Tesla will hit the 200K U.S. sales mark in 2Q 18 which means the full tax credit will expire on 30 September. I configured my Model 3 on 2 22 and am currently waiting for VIN assignment and delivery. With the imminence of my Model 3 delivery my wife is now fully on board the Tesla train (toot toot) and has her eye on a Model X (under the thinly veiled excuse of needing a 3rd row for kiddos). We were thinking about spacing out the two vehicle purchases over a year or so. Partly to spread out expenses but also because I m hoping for an X refresh or at least an upgrade to the touchscreen or battery pack...but I also hate to miss out on the tax credit. So I was considering ordering such that we could take delivery in September and just squeeze into the $7500 window. Which made me think...there has to be a bunch of people considering the same move. Of course now I m anxious that there s going to be a burst of orders sometime in June July of people trying to guarantee delivery before September with the result that delivery windows quickly jump into Q4. So now I m in full on game theory mode trying to figure out if I should wait until July and hope for September delivery or try to shift some monies around so we can just go ahead and order earlier and not worry about it. So a couple of discussion points for the community: * Do you think Tesla is anticipating such a rush of orders and actively planning a way to get as many deliveries out the door by 30 September as possible? Or do they not really care about making any heroic efforts? * Current delivery estimates for S and X are into June (3 months lead time). Will those lead times shorten back to 60 days once Model 3 production gets going in earnest (ostensibly this month or next)? Or will the lead times continue as is (or grow) as resources are dedicated to the Model 3 line? * Do you think Tesla has an internal priority preference for getting more S X orders out the door before the full tax credit expiration or for the many Model 3 SR AWD reservation holders who have patiently waited the last 2 years? I realize posting this has the potential to speed up the very phenomenon I m worrying about...but such is my obsession with this community that I m willing to feed my angst for the sake of some good discussion. | Sacaraster | 2018-03-13 14:17:37 | 44 | dvmpxqf | If the full tax credit expires in September that means that many day one reservations (like mine) will not get it. That would be a shame. | 10per | 2018-03-13 14:52:33 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
844h04 | [Discussion] With the end of the full $7500 tax credit looming will there be a rush of orders trying to beat the deadline (probably by 9 30)? | The overwhelming consensus seems to be that Tesla will hit the 200K U.S. sales mark in 2Q 18 which means the full tax credit will expire on 30 September. I configured my Model 3 on 2 22 and am currently waiting for VIN assignment and delivery. With the imminence of my Model 3 delivery my wife is now fully on board the Tesla train (toot toot) and has her eye on a Model X (under the thinly veiled excuse of needing a 3rd row for kiddos). We were thinking about spacing out the two vehicle purchases over a year or so. Partly to spread out expenses but also because I m hoping for an X refresh or at least an upgrade to the touchscreen or battery pack...but I also hate to miss out on the tax credit. So I was considering ordering such that we could take delivery in September and just squeeze into the $7500 window. Which made me think...there has to be a bunch of people considering the same move. Of course now I m anxious that there s going to be a burst of orders sometime in June July of people trying to guarantee delivery before September with the result that delivery windows quickly jump into Q4. So now I m in full on game theory mode trying to figure out if I should wait until July and hope for September delivery or try to shift some monies around so we can just go ahead and order earlier and not worry about it. So a couple of discussion points for the community: * Do you think Tesla is anticipating such a rush of orders and actively planning a way to get as many deliveries out the door by 30 September as possible? Or do they not really care about making any heroic efforts? * Current delivery estimates for S and X are into June (3 months lead time). Will those lead times shorten back to 60 days once Model 3 production gets going in earnest (ostensibly this month or next)? Or will the lead times continue as is (or grow) as resources are dedicated to the Model 3 line? * Do you think Tesla has an internal priority preference for getting more S X orders out the door before the full tax credit expiration or for the many Model 3 SR AWD reservation holders who have patiently waited the last 2 years? I realize posting this has the potential to speed up the very phenomenon I m worrying about...but such is my obsession with this community that I m willing to feed my angst for the sake of some good discussion. | Sacaraster | 2018-03-13 14:17:37 | 44 | dvn1rpj | Reading between the lines..... Stop worrying get the 100D Model X ASAP and configure as you like it. Concentrate on the fact you got the rebate and what a great car it is. The dollars will not be that important in the long run compared to your happiness with the right car. There will always be updates and refreshes. What is the price of worrying and waiting? The first night I lost sleep wondering about when to buy convinced me to buy the next day. | duke_of_alinor | 2018-03-13 17:50:07 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9h7kd9 | [Discussion] Would Teslas be allowed to race on legal drag strips if the car could auto launch by looking at the indicator lights? | With a reaction time of 0.0 it would have an incredible advantage over those drag race videos you see online. Part of the sport has to include the driver aspect of it. I was just wondering if anyone knew of a rule that required a human to be the one to hit the gas? I just watched a M3DP beat a mustang 5.0 but looking at the reaction time the mustang had a .6 second reaction time. That is a crazy long time for an 11 second race. I personally think it should not be allowed in to any official records other then vs other auto launch cars. EDIT: To some who think I m talking about having a robot push the gas I am not. I m talking like autopilot for drag racing. Put it into Ludicrous Drag mode. Pull up the light. Hit brake then full gas let go of the break and the car will use a camera to watch the light and apply full power at the light change perfectly letting you control the rest. | iSaidYesToDrugs | 2018-09-19 18:12:35 | 16 | e69plrk | Awesome thought. I agree though doesn t seem fair. Almost takes the fun out of it (autopilot drag races). Would be like watching robots battle...wait...that might be fun. | icameforthenudes | 2018-09-19 18:16:26 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9h7kd9 | [Discussion] Would Teslas be allowed to race on legal drag strips if the car could auto launch by looking at the indicator lights? | With a reaction time of 0.0 it would have an incredible advantage over those drag race videos you see online. Part of the sport has to include the driver aspect of it. I was just wondering if anyone knew of a rule that required a human to be the one to hit the gas? I just watched a M3DP beat a mustang 5.0 but looking at the reaction time the mustang had a .6 second reaction time. That is a crazy long time for an 11 second race. I personally think it should not be allowed in to any official records other then vs other auto launch cars. EDIT: To some who think I m talking about having a robot push the gas I am not. I m talking like autopilot for drag racing. Put it into Ludicrous Drag mode. Pull up the light. Hit brake then full gas let go of the break and the car will use a camera to watch the light and apply full power at the light change perfectly letting you control the rest. | iSaidYesToDrugs | 2018-09-19 18:12:35 | 16 | e69po6a | I think a lot of drag strips will not count the time if the reaction time is too low. The reaction time is recorded anyway so just subtract that from the elapsed time. | BraveRock | 2018-09-19 18:17:20 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yp9l3 | [Discussion] Would You Use Tesla s Tesla Network To Provide Ridesharing If They Enabled It? | [Elon has made mention previously on investor calls that they plan to offer self-driving ride sharing through Tesla Network and that other ride sharing services would not be able to take advantage of Tesla s self-driving functionality](https: techcrunch.com 2016 10 26 musk-on-tesla-network-its-not-tesla-vs-uber-its-the-people-vs-uber ). Since level 5 autonomy seems to be aways off ( 3 months maybe 6 months definitely ) would you offer rides in your Tesla today if Tesla flipped on their ride sharing network with an app? Asking because if Tesla did I would to offset ICE miles of others and to promote carpooling. I already do ridesharing rides for the fun of it but I d rather Tesla get the skim instead of Uber or Lyft. Mods: Flaired question if that s wrong feel free to change. | toomuchtodotoday | 2018-02-19 19:22:44 | 20 | dui5te9 | Nope. My car is for me. | run-the-joules | 2018-02-19 19:25:17 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yp9l3 | [Discussion] Would You Use Tesla s Tesla Network To Provide Ridesharing If They Enabled It? | [Elon has made mention previously on investor calls that they plan to offer self-driving ride sharing through Tesla Network and that other ride sharing services would not be able to take advantage of Tesla s self-driving functionality](https: techcrunch.com 2016 10 26 musk-on-tesla-network-its-not-tesla-vs-uber-its-the-people-vs-uber ). Since level 5 autonomy seems to be aways off ( 3 months maybe 6 months definitely ) would you offer rides in your Tesla today if Tesla flipped on their ride sharing network with an app? Asking because if Tesla did I would to offset ICE miles of others and to promote carpooling. I already do ridesharing rides for the fun of it but I d rather Tesla get the skim instead of Uber or Lyft. Mods: Flaired question if that s wrong feel free to change. | toomuchtodotoday | 2018-02-19 19:22:44 | 20 | dui5x23 | If the Tesla Network was actually a thing - I d probably put down another reservation and get a second and or third Model 3. I doubt I d lend my personal car out on it but a second one to try to make profits? Sure. Really depends on how the whole thing is set up pricing automatic charging etc. Too many factors to consider and (my guess) is that such a scenario is too far off to really consider. | dieabetic | 2018-02-19 19:26:57 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yp9l3 | [Discussion] Would You Use Tesla s Tesla Network To Provide Ridesharing If They Enabled It? | [Elon has made mention previously on investor calls that they plan to offer self-driving ride sharing through Tesla Network and that other ride sharing services would not be able to take advantage of Tesla s self-driving functionality](https: techcrunch.com 2016 10 26 musk-on-tesla-network-its-not-tesla-vs-uber-its-the-people-vs-uber ). Since level 5 autonomy seems to be aways off ( 3 months maybe 6 months definitely ) would you offer rides in your Tesla today if Tesla flipped on their ride sharing network with an app? Asking because if Tesla did I would to offset ICE miles of others and to promote carpooling. I already do ridesharing rides for the fun of it but I d rather Tesla get the skim instead of Uber or Lyft. Mods: Flaired question if that s wrong feel free to change. | toomuchtodotoday | 2018-02-19 19:22:44 | 20 | dui68xd | If it paid at least 50%+ of my payment. Miles and wear would greatly depreciate it. Any less wouldn t be worth it to have someone else fart in my car. | Blind_at_Sea | 2018-02-19 19:32:19 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yp9l3 | [Discussion] Would You Use Tesla s Tesla Network To Provide Ridesharing If They Enabled It? | [Elon has made mention previously on investor calls that they plan to offer self-driving ride sharing through Tesla Network and that other ride sharing services would not be able to take advantage of Tesla s self-driving functionality](https: techcrunch.com 2016 10 26 musk-on-tesla-network-its-not-tesla-vs-uber-its-the-people-vs-uber ). Since level 5 autonomy seems to be aways off ( 3 months maybe 6 months definitely ) would you offer rides in your Tesla today if Tesla flipped on their ride sharing network with an app? Asking because if Tesla did I would to offset ICE miles of others and to promote carpooling. I already do ridesharing rides for the fun of it but I d rather Tesla get the skim instead of Uber or Lyft. Mods: Flaired question if that s wrong feel free to change. | toomuchtodotoday | 2018-02-19 19:22:44 | 20 | dui9ieh | No. Not unless it was actually profitable to do so in which case I d get a second car to do it which basically means basic economics more or less dictate it can t be profitable. | vita10gy | 2018-02-19 20:25:42 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ay1y7c | [Discussion] Would you accept a demo service loaner? | I just got my MVPA today for my M3 MR to be delivered this coming Tuesday. On the MVPA under description of propery : New - Previous service demo vehicle with 50 miles on the odometer. Would you accept this car for full retail price? Not sure how I feel about it. I know the not-very-kind ways I ve treated demo service vehicles before.....but at the same time if the car makes it up to my house from Fremont with only 50 miles on the clock its only been driven 25 miles as a service demo and it obviously has a warranty and I ll inspect it. Would you take the car? Or demand a new one? (it has a 2018 date code for the VIN - but I m going to keep it until it stops running so the potential change in resale isn t relevant to me). ---- EDIT: Called an IDA and told them about it. They are getting a field specialist (no idea what that is) to call me back to discuss later today. ---- Edit 2: Good news - my DA called and Tesla have swapped out my car with a 2019 produced model (new VIN). They ve updated the MVPA as well. | mcowger | 2019-03-06 18:15:43 | 13 | ehxmhfx | You bought a brand new car not a demo car :) Personnaly I would never accept a demo car if I pay for want a brand new | r0b1n68 | 2019-03-06 18:27:52 | 13 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ay1y7c | [Discussion] Would you accept a demo service loaner? | I just got my MVPA today for my M3 MR to be delivered this coming Tuesday. On the MVPA under description of propery : New - Previous service demo vehicle with 50 miles on the odometer. Would you accept this car for full retail price? Not sure how I feel about it. I know the not-very-kind ways I ve treated demo service vehicles before.....but at the same time if the car makes it up to my house from Fremont with only 50 miles on the clock its only been driven 25 miles as a service demo and it obviously has a warranty and I ll inspect it. Would you take the car? Or demand a new one? (it has a 2018 date code for the VIN - but I m going to keep it until it stops running so the potential change in resale isn t relevant to me). ---- EDIT: Called an IDA and told them about it. They are getting a field specialist (no idea what that is) to call me back to discuss later today. ---- Edit 2: Good news - my DA called and Tesla have swapped out my car with a 2019 produced model (new VIN). They ve updated the MVPA as well. | mcowger | 2019-03-06 18:15:43 | 13 | ehxmppx | I got our S as a demo vehicle in 2016. It was used in the mall and had 18 miles at delivery. We got a $9 100 discount off the $78k new price. | ThaiTum | 2019-03-06 18:30:23 | 13 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ay1y7c | [Discussion] Would you accept a demo service loaner? | I just got my MVPA today for my M3 MR to be delivered this coming Tuesday. On the MVPA under description of propery : New - Previous service demo vehicle with 50 miles on the odometer. Would you accept this car for full retail price? Not sure how I feel about it. I know the not-very-kind ways I ve treated demo service vehicles before.....but at the same time if the car makes it up to my house from Fremont with only 50 miles on the clock its only been driven 25 miles as a service demo and it obviously has a warranty and I ll inspect it. Would you take the car? Or demand a new one? (it has a 2018 date code for the VIN - but I m going to keep it until it stops running so the potential change in resale isn t relevant to me). ---- EDIT: Called an IDA and told them about it. They are getting a field specialist (no idea what that is) to call me back to discuss later today. ---- Edit 2: Good news - my DA called and Tesla have swapped out my car with a 2019 produced model (new VIN). They ve updated the MVPA as well. | mcowger | 2019-03-06 18:15:43 | 13 | ehxlm35 | Nope. I d only consider a demo if I got a discount. Inspect the car thoroughly no matter what you end up getting. | TingGreaterThanOC | 2019-03-06 18:18:15 | 12 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ay1y7c | [Discussion] Would you accept a demo service loaner? | I just got my MVPA today for my M3 MR to be delivered this coming Tuesday. On the MVPA under description of propery : New - Previous service demo vehicle with 50 miles on the odometer. Would you accept this car for full retail price? Not sure how I feel about it. I know the not-very-kind ways I ve treated demo service vehicles before.....but at the same time if the car makes it up to my house from Fremont with only 50 miles on the clock its only been driven 25 miles as a service demo and it obviously has a warranty and I ll inspect it. Would you take the car? Or demand a new one? (it has a 2018 date code for the VIN - but I m going to keep it until it stops running so the potential change in resale isn t relevant to me). ---- EDIT: Called an IDA and told them about it. They are getting a field specialist (no idea what that is) to call me back to discuss later today. ---- Edit 2: Good news - my DA called and Tesla have swapped out my car with a 2019 produced model (new VIN). They ve updated the MVPA as well. | mcowger | 2019-03-06 18:15:43 | 13 | ehxmb6z | Nope demo cars interior get beat to shit. | Klownicle | 2019-03-06 18:25:55 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ay1y7c | [Discussion] Would you accept a demo service loaner? | I just got my MVPA today for my M3 MR to be delivered this coming Tuesday. On the MVPA under description of propery : New - Previous service demo vehicle with 50 miles on the odometer. Would you accept this car for full retail price? Not sure how I feel about it. I know the not-very-kind ways I ve treated demo service vehicles before.....but at the same time if the car makes it up to my house from Fremont with only 50 miles on the clock its only been driven 25 miles as a service demo and it obviously has a warranty and I ll inspect it. Would you take the car? Or demand a new one? (it has a 2018 date code for the VIN - but I m going to keep it until it stops running so the potential change in resale isn t relevant to me). ---- EDIT: Called an IDA and told them about it. They are getting a field specialist (no idea what that is) to call me back to discuss later today. ---- Edit 2: Good news - my DA called and Tesla have swapped out my car with a 2019 produced model (new VIN). They ve updated the MVPA as well. | mcowger | 2019-03-06 18:15:43 | 13 | ehxu5xp | What state are you in? For simplicity contracts will always show 50 miles even though there is probably less than 10 miles on the ODO. It should only say new previous demo if it was purchased as an inventory vehicle. These were usually loners or showroom vehicles. Seems like it is probably just a contract issue. Definitely talk to you delivery associate. Source: former Tesla Delivery Advisor. | byfuryattheheart | 2019-03-06 19:51:45 | 5 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
as2h8b | [Discussion] Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. | Online calculator: * MSRP $42 900 * residual value percentage 0.53 * residual value $22 737 * Negotiated selling price $42 200 * fees $975 * gross capitalized cost $43 175 * down payment and rebates $4 200 * adjusted capitalized cost $38 975 * DEPRECIATION amount $16 238 * number of months in lease 36 * BASE PAYMENT $451.06 * interest rate 3.460 * money factor 0.00144167 * cap cost + resid value $61 712 * monthly rent charge. $88.97 * PRETAX LEASE PAYMENT $540.02 * sales tax rate 7.1 * sales tax $38.34 * TOTAL LEASE PAYMENT (mo) $578.37 Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. Question: If a $43 000 Tesla can potentially be leased for $578 month then how is it possible to lease a more expensive truck (Ford) for only $299 month as shown in this link? https: www.ford.com trucks f150 pricing-and-incentives $299 month + $3819 cash | everyEV | 2019-02-18 21:43:15 | 18 | egrfq7j | Money down on a lease is just stupid | cjbrigol | 2019-02-18 22:56:29 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
as2h8b | [Discussion] Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. | Online calculator: * MSRP $42 900 * residual value percentage 0.53 * residual value $22 737 * Negotiated selling price $42 200 * fees $975 * gross capitalized cost $43 175 * down payment and rebates $4 200 * adjusted capitalized cost $38 975 * DEPRECIATION amount $16 238 * number of months in lease 36 * BASE PAYMENT $451.06 * interest rate 3.460 * money factor 0.00144167 * cap cost + resid value $61 712 * monthly rent charge. $88.97 * PRETAX LEASE PAYMENT $540.02 * sales tax rate 7.1 * sales tax $38.34 * TOTAL LEASE PAYMENT (mo) $578.37 Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. Question: If a $43 000 Tesla can potentially be leased for $578 month then how is it possible to lease a more expensive truck (Ford) for only $299 month as shown in this link? https: www.ford.com trucks f150 pricing-and-incentives $299 month + $3819 cash | everyEV | 2019-02-18 21:43:15 | 18 | egrbey2 | Yes. I believe leasing will be an enormous demand lever for Tesla when they decide to pull it. I believe they will pull the leasing demand lever before they introduce a $35k SR but in saying that I am assuming that the net cash generated by Tesla from a leased AWD or P would be greater than the net cash generated from the sale of a $35k SR. | 404davee | 2019-02-18 22:01:57 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
as2h8b | [Discussion] Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. | Online calculator: * MSRP $42 900 * residual value percentage 0.53 * residual value $22 737 * Negotiated selling price $42 200 * fees $975 * gross capitalized cost $43 175 * down payment and rebates $4 200 * adjusted capitalized cost $38 975 * DEPRECIATION amount $16 238 * number of months in lease 36 * BASE PAYMENT $451.06 * interest rate 3.460 * money factor 0.00144167 * cap cost + resid value $61 712 * monthly rent charge. $88.97 * PRETAX LEASE PAYMENT $540.02 * sales tax rate 7.1 * sales tax $38.34 * TOTAL LEASE PAYMENT (mo) $578.37 Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. Question: If a $43 000 Tesla can potentially be leased for $578 month then how is it possible to lease a more expensive truck (Ford) for only $299 month as shown in this link? https: www.ford.com trucks f150 pricing-and-incentives $299 month + $3819 cash | everyEV | 2019-02-18 21:43:15 | 18 | egrexh7 | Where are you getting these figures? Historically leases for Tesla has been very expensive. For reference on the S and X below. I would expect the 3 to be similar. • 0.002396 money factor (5.75% APR) • acquisition_fee: $695 • 36 month residual: 49% 15k miles 50% 12k miles 51% 10k miles • 24 month residual: 54% 15k miles 55% 12k miles 52% 10k miles Residual already includes the federal incentive. Tesla doesn t have a captive finance arm to shift losses. | ThaiTum | 2019-02-18 22:46:08 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
as2h8b | [Discussion] Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. | Online calculator: * MSRP $42 900 * residual value percentage 0.53 * residual value $22 737 * Negotiated selling price $42 200 * fees $975 * gross capitalized cost $43 175 * down payment and rebates $4 200 * adjusted capitalized cost $38 975 * DEPRECIATION amount $16 238 * number of months in lease 36 * BASE PAYMENT $451.06 * interest rate 3.460 * money factor 0.00144167 * cap cost + resid value $61 712 * monthly rent charge. $88.97 * PRETAX LEASE PAYMENT $540.02 * sales tax rate 7.1 * sales tax $38.34 * TOTAL LEASE PAYMENT (mo) $578.37 Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. Question: If a $43 000 Tesla can potentially be leased for $578 month then how is it possible to lease a more expensive truck (Ford) for only $299 month as shown in this link? https: www.ford.com trucks f150 pricing-and-incentives $299 month + $3819 cash | everyEV | 2019-02-18 21:43:15 | 18 | egrcpoc | Higher re-sale margin on the truck.Lower km s on the lease. Higher per km penalty at end of lease. Have to pay for damages scratches with regular use of a truck. Customer in the end will just buy it any ways. | mwason | 2019-02-18 22:17:49 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
as2h8b | [Discussion] Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. | Online calculator: * MSRP $42 900 * residual value percentage 0.53 * residual value $22 737 * Negotiated selling price $42 200 * fees $975 * gross capitalized cost $43 175 * down payment and rebates $4 200 * adjusted capitalized cost $38 975 * DEPRECIATION amount $16 238 * number of months in lease 36 * BASE PAYMENT $451.06 * interest rate 3.460 * money factor 0.00144167 * cap cost + resid value $61 712 * monthly rent charge. $88.97 * PRETAX LEASE PAYMENT $540.02 * sales tax rate 7.1 * sales tax $38.34 * TOTAL LEASE PAYMENT (mo) $578.37 Would you estimate there to be a lot of demand for leasing a Tesla Model 3? Online calculators estimate that monthly payments would be approx. $578 + $4200 down. Question: If a $43 000 Tesla can potentially be leased for $578 month then how is it possible to lease a more expensive truck (Ford) for only $299 month as shown in this link? https: www.ford.com trucks f150 pricing-and-incentives $299 month + $3819 cash | everyEV | 2019-02-18 21:43:15 | 18 | egrfobp | 578 a month + 4200 down is same as 578 month + 4200 36 = $694 month I d rather buy get tax incentives and own the car to be able to sell later. | TeslaModel11 | 2019-02-18 22:55:48 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7vftmi | [Discussion] Would you use location based charge limits? | My wife can charge on an L1 plug at work which will more than make up for her commute and then some but won t recover after a weekend. So at home I like to charge to 60% to give space for the work charge but at work I set it to 90%. This requires manual tweaking of the charge limit. If I let it get to 90% at home then when she gets to work it only charges for 2 hours before maxing out. Even better would be both time and location based charge limits as I also tend to want 90% on Fridays or Saturdays for the weekend. I realize this is not the normal use case. Just wondering if enough other people would use location based limits enough to suggest it to Tesla or if I m the only one. Bonus: Is there any 3rd party tool that will already let me do this? EDIT: Now that I think about it what about a charge limit that changes just this time ? One thing I hate is that if you update the charge limit it sticks. What if Tesla had a charge level adjustment that when you slid it asked always or only this charge next charge? Lots of thermostats work this way. Seems handy at superchargers or other abnormal charges. This would actually cover my use case almost 100%. | beastpilot | 2018-02-05 16:19:28 | 14 | dtrwrx7 | Teslafi.com has a tasker which allows you to schedule charge limit changes. | siege342 | 2018-02-05 16:26:18 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7vftmi | [Discussion] Would you use location based charge limits? | My wife can charge on an L1 plug at work which will more than make up for her commute and then some but won t recover after a weekend. So at home I like to charge to 60% to give space for the work charge but at work I set it to 90%. This requires manual tweaking of the charge limit. If I let it get to 90% at home then when she gets to work it only charges for 2 hours before maxing out. Even better would be both time and location based charge limits as I also tend to want 90% on Fridays or Saturdays for the weekend. I realize this is not the normal use case. Just wondering if enough other people would use location based limits enough to suggest it to Tesla or if I m the only one. Bonus: Is there any 3rd party tool that will already let me do this? EDIT: Now that I think about it what about a charge limit that changes just this time ? One thing I hate is that if you update the charge limit it sticks. What if Tesla had a charge level adjustment that when you slid it asked always or only this charge next charge? Lots of thermostats work this way. Seems handy at superchargers or other abnormal charges. This would actually cover my use case almost 100%. | beastpilot | 2018-02-05 16:19:28 | 14 | dtrwzmf | This seems like it would have the same problems as a Nest thermostat...you d think it would make your life easier but in reality you just have to babysit your thermostat more to make sure it does what you want it to do. In the same vein the ability to set your home s temperature remotely via the app is the most useful part...as is remotely setting your Tesla s charge limit by the app. | OompaOrangeFace | 2018-02-05 16:29:53 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8jj4yi | [Discussion] You know Tesla s production numbers are good... | ....when the media is talking about everything else besides that. I could have sworn I was told a few months ago that Production is the only thing that matters . Tesla has made approximately more Model 3 vehicles in the past 6 weeks than they did in the previous 6 months combined before that (without cutting back from 100k S X production year-end goal in both years). And...let me check...yup...still no demand issue. That dam dead horse has been beaten for so long that I m surprise there is anything left to hit. 3 straight quarters of record orders without expanding to any new markets? Hmmm... Tesla is at approximately 5 000 cars produced per week. That is already a 250 000 year run rate 150% higher than 5 months ago. In 6 weeks mid-2018 we ll be at a 350 000 year run rate a 250% increase from 5 months ago. Amazing progress. Don t take it from me take it from Mark Spiegel. He said it better than anyone in 2014: The sell-side is forecasting that Tesla will sell 500 000 cars in 2020. If Tesla sells 35 000 cars this year [2014] 500 000 sales in 2020 would imply a six-year CAGR of 56%. No complex product manufacturer has ever grown that quickly from a revenue base of $3 billion or more. See! Look! I listen to all sides! | toxicsquared | 2018-05-15 05:22:45 | 82 | dz0ab1q | > Tesla is at approximately 5 000 cars produced per week As much as we all want to believe it thats not true if Tesla hasn t announced it yet. I have faith that they will but I don t think they are at that rate yet. Probably around 2 500-3500 right now. The Bloomberg tracker has it at 2 662 right now. https: www.bloomberg.com graphics 2018-tesla-tracker EDIT: Sorry I thought OP was only talking about only Model 3 sales. It makes sense that they are over 5k for all vehicles. Tesla still needs roughtly 5k per week average Model 3 sales in any given quarter to break even This is according to [Hyperchanges Income Statement model](https: youtu.be W4mcsViHCpw?t=5m23s) that assumes 66 000 Model 3s delivered in any quarter would make Tesla a Net Income of $230 million. | icecream21 | 2018-05-15 10:07:35 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8jj4yi | [Discussion] You know Tesla s production numbers are good... | ....when the media is talking about everything else besides that. I could have sworn I was told a few months ago that Production is the only thing that matters . Tesla has made approximately more Model 3 vehicles in the past 6 weeks than they did in the previous 6 months combined before that (without cutting back from 100k S X production year-end goal in both years). And...let me check...yup...still no demand issue. That dam dead horse has been beaten for so long that I m surprise there is anything left to hit. 3 straight quarters of record orders without expanding to any new markets? Hmmm... Tesla is at approximately 5 000 cars produced per week. That is already a 250 000 year run rate 150% higher than 5 months ago. In 6 weeks mid-2018 we ll be at a 350 000 year run rate a 250% increase from 5 months ago. Amazing progress. Don t take it from me take it from Mark Spiegel. He said it better than anyone in 2014: The sell-side is forecasting that Tesla will sell 500 000 cars in 2020. If Tesla sells 35 000 cars this year [2014] 500 000 sales in 2020 would imply a six-year CAGR of 56%. No complex product manufacturer has ever grown that quickly from a revenue base of $3 billion or more. See! Look! I listen to all sides! | toxicsquared | 2018-05-15 05:22:45 | 82 | dz0inf9 | Interesting ... interesting. However I think our newspaper will go with the headline: DERANGED TESLA BREAKS WOMAN S ANKLE!! MUSK ON LAST LEGS!! | slavesofdemocracy | 2018-05-15 13:34:21 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8jj4yi | [Discussion] You know Tesla s production numbers are good... | ....when the media is talking about everything else besides that. I could have sworn I was told a few months ago that Production is the only thing that matters . Tesla has made approximately more Model 3 vehicles in the past 6 weeks than they did in the previous 6 months combined before that (without cutting back from 100k S X production year-end goal in both years). And...let me check...yup...still no demand issue. That dam dead horse has been beaten for so long that I m surprise there is anything left to hit. 3 straight quarters of record orders without expanding to any new markets? Hmmm... Tesla is at approximately 5 000 cars produced per week. That is already a 250 000 year run rate 150% higher than 5 months ago. In 6 weeks mid-2018 we ll be at a 350 000 year run rate a 250% increase from 5 months ago. Amazing progress. Don t take it from me take it from Mark Spiegel. He said it better than anyone in 2014: The sell-side is forecasting that Tesla will sell 500 000 cars in 2020. If Tesla sells 35 000 cars this year [2014] 500 000 sales in 2020 would imply a six-year CAGR of 56%. No complex product manufacturer has ever grown that quickly from a revenue base of $3 billion or more. See! Look! I listen to all sides! | toxicsquared | 2018-05-15 05:22:45 | 82 | dz09lba | From bay area.. 3s everywhere here. I am waiting mine. Very jealous of those folks although I try my best to wave in good faith | Space-n-Spice | 2018-05-15 09:40:34 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7w2ebh | [Discussion] You know what would help soothe the Model 3 delay pain? Free Supercharging. | Any amount would do | nightofgrim | 2018-02-08 04:44:28 | 17 | dtx27ho | Im fine with not getting anything for free considering the original plan of Model 3 wasnt supposed to ramp until 2020. Im fine with wait a few more months gives me more time to save. | SchaFFFFFFFFFFF | 2018-02-08 05:33:14 | 11 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7w2ebh | [Discussion] You know what would help soothe the Model 3 delay pain? Free Supercharging. | Any amount would do | nightofgrim | 2018-02-08 04:44:28 | 17 | dtx0me8 | At least free supercharging for 1 year. | ShinjukuWard | 2018-02-08 04:54:15 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7w2ebh | [Discussion] You know what would help soothe the Model 3 delay pain? Free Supercharging. | Any amount would do | nightofgrim | 2018-02-08 04:44:28 | 17 | dtx0t6o | Won t happen when buying an S X it may be a factor to seal the deal. With the 3 you d still buy it without free supercharging. Delays happen though this time next year you ll have forgotten that there was any wait at all. | bradbrok | 2018-02-08 04:58:39 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
aw2xqt | [Discussion] [EU] Open Model 3 orders to be upgraded from EAP to FSD (according to customer service) | I ordered a Model 3 with EAP in the Netherlands and still have not been assigned a VIN as of now. If you configure a new vehicle right now the price with AP+FSD (in the new system) would be the exact same as what I am paying right now for EAP. & #x200B So I called Tesla Netherlands this morning to ask how this will be handled and was told that in cases like mine the existing EAP order will be automatically changed to AP+FSD. & #x200B Not sure if that is also applicable if you already have a VIN assigned but it is good news for people in my situation (of which there are many in Europe). IF they follow through that is - as with everything not in writing. | eypandabear | 2019-03-01 09:30:58 | 38 | ehjl3vt | This would be great and will make delivery hell a bit more bearable | iRemz | 2019-03-01 09:37:50 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
aw2xqt | [Discussion] [EU] Open Model 3 orders to be upgraded from EAP to FSD (according to customer service) | I ordered a Model 3 with EAP in the Netherlands and still have not been assigned a VIN as of now. If you configure a new vehicle right now the price with AP+FSD (in the new system) would be the exact same as what I am paying right now for EAP. & #x200B So I called Tesla Netherlands this morning to ask how this will be handled and was told that in cases like mine the existing EAP order will be automatically changed to AP+FSD. & #x200B Not sure if that is also applicable if you already have a VIN assigned but it is good news for people in my situation (of which there are many in Europe). IF they follow through that is - as with everything not in writing. | eypandabear | 2019-03-01 09:30:58 | 38 | ehjqkc5 | I got delivery on Monday. Am I screwed or should I return the car within 7 days? Not happy | JanoSicek | 2019-03-01 11:52:03 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
8v6pyc | [Discussion] anyone else downgraded to non-p AWD? | I was originally going to order the P-AWD with white interior but after reading around the forums and trying to get information about the performance package and its vague promise of better brakes and whether or not it included any significant chassis or drivetrain upgrades I decided it wasn t worth the money and just configured the AWD. Did anyone else do this? Do you think the performance package is worth it on top of the P-AWD? | raymondftw | 2018-07-01 01:57:08 | 16 | e1kzbg5 | I downgraded. I was all game for it and suddenly did the tax math and the floor mats and the wrap and the tint and the charger and I exceed my comfort level. So the downgrade put me in a comfortable spot and allowed me to purchase all the accessories I wanted. I am not gonna say worth it or not worth it I find that is just not something constructive to talk about as we all have different wants and needs. I will miss the mindwarp speed I know it. I also know I will personally sleep easier knowing I saved 15k. I hope one day to test ride in a performance unit. | sziehr | 2018-07-01 02:12:06 | 14 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
8v6pyc | [Discussion] anyone else downgraded to non-p AWD? | I was originally going to order the P-AWD with white interior but after reading around the forums and trying to get information about the performance package and its vague promise of better brakes and whether or not it included any significant chassis or drivetrain upgrades I decided it wasn t worth the money and just configured the AWD. Did anyone else do this? Do you think the performance package is worth it on top of the P-AWD? | raymondftw | 2018-07-01 01:57:08 | 16 | e1lmz5i | I am almost ready to downgrade. I will wait a week and if Tesla does not provide clear official specifications other than “goes faster” I will opt out for regular AWD. | 0r10z | 2018-07-01 13:24:33 | 5 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
agnfhk | [Discussion] can the $500 LADWP charger rebate be used for the new Tesla Wall Connector with 14-50 Plug? | Hey guys & #x200B I have a NEMA 14-50 220v connector currently in my garage I saw the new Tesla Wall Connector released today and wondered if I could get it for almost for free (I m an LADWP customer) with their $500 rebate they offer.... & #x200B [https: www.ladwp.com ladwp faces wcnav\_externalId r-sm-rp-ev?\_adf.ctrl-state=1717j0ttpo\_4& \_afrLoop=389086620447473& \_afrWindowMode=0& \_afrWindowId=lbgcu6ov5\_1#%40%3F\_afrWindowId%3Dlbgcu6ov5\_1%26\_afrLoop%3D389086620447473%26\_afrWindowMode%3D0%26\_adf.ctrl-state%3Dlbgcu6ov5\_17](https: www.ladwp.com ladwp faces wcnav_externalId r-sm-rp-ev?_adf.ctrl-state=1717j0ttpo_4& _afrLoop=389086620447473& _afrWindowMode=0& _afrWindowId=lbgcu6ov5_1#%40%3F_afrWindowId%3Dlbgcu6ov5_1%26_afrLoop%3D389086620447473%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3Dlbgcu6ov5_17) & #x200B Thoughts? & #x200B Thanks! & #x200B & #x200B & #x200B & #x200B | chatojr | 2019-01-16 17:25:51 | 18 | ee8bco1 | Fun fact! The rebate is now $500* as of Jan 1st *Edit: thank you u riakoob1 for fact checking me. It s now $800 for PG& E customers as of 1 1 19 not LADWP customers | Mediumcomputer | 2019-01-16 22:58:38 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9oo9y1 | [Discussion] does the Model 3 have adaptive headlights? | I tried googling this but all that came up were articles on the TM3 getting bad rates for the headlights. When test driving the Model 3 we were told only the outermost LEDs on the headlights are usually lit up and that the remaining only light up on curves to act as adaptive headlights without using the always-breaking (and expensive) turning mechanism that most cars use. I did notice that whenever a TM3 passed by me during my evening jogs (been seeing a lot of them lately here in Rockville MD) only two or three of the LEDs were lit up coincidentally they were the ones below the signature light. I found [this image on Google](https: i.imgur.com NFC1zqf.jpg) that someone shows what I mean. It s possible to see only the outermost part of the headlamp is lit up and the innermost is not. Did the Tesla rep provide accurate info and this is for the “turning” headlight feature or is the rest of the headlamp merely left for high beams? | hrds21198 | 2018-10-16 14:46:25 | 18 | e7vgtmq | I mean even calling the Model S and X lights adaptive is very generous for current headlight technology. It s more like [cornering lights](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=enZ4iuGsjao). | Vik1ng | 2018-10-16 15:18:48 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9oo9y1 | [Discussion] does the Model 3 have adaptive headlights? | I tried googling this but all that came up were articles on the TM3 getting bad rates for the headlights. When test driving the Model 3 we were told only the outermost LEDs on the headlights are usually lit up and that the remaining only light up on curves to act as adaptive headlights without using the always-breaking (and expensive) turning mechanism that most cars use. I did notice that whenever a TM3 passed by me during my evening jogs (been seeing a lot of them lately here in Rockville MD) only two or three of the LEDs were lit up coincidentally they were the ones below the signature light. I found [this image on Google](https: i.imgur.com NFC1zqf.jpg) that someone shows what I mean. It s possible to see only the outermost part of the headlamp is lit up and the innermost is not. Did the Tesla rep provide accurate info and this is for the “turning” headlight feature or is the rest of the headlamp merely left for high beams? | hrds21198 | 2018-10-16 14:46:25 | 18 | e7vfe36 | Nope. | Dr_Pippin | 2018-10-16 14:59:05 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9m8rd6 | [Discussion] how much does your battery charge deplete overnight after reaching the set charge limit? Is 1% to 2% overnight typical? | I have a new model S P100D which seems to work great in all respects. I have a question about charging. I have the charge limit set to 90% and at home I have installed an L2 240 volt 40 amp charging outlet. When I get here me from work in the evening I plug the charger in and the reaches the 90% charge limit in about an hour and a half. However I have noticed that by the following morning when I leave the car charge level has dropped to 89%. This weekend on Friday evening I plugged into the charger and the car finished charging as usual after an hour and a half or so. I didn t go out on Saturday but I did keep checking the car status every few hours with my phone to see if it had received the version 9 firmware update yet (I am still waiting for this sadly). This morning when I got in the car to go out the charge level was down to 88% and dropped to 87% right as I pulled out of the driveway. My expectation is that the car would keep the charge level at 90% as long as it s still hooked up to the charging plug or at least once it drops by some amount like 1-2% that it would begin charging again. Will the car not start charging again if the charge level drops significantly? What if I don t drive for a week will it be down 7-10% from the set charge limit? Is an overnight drop of 1-2% normal? | scubascratch | 2018-10-07 21:07:55 | 12 | e7ctjq9 | Same on my Model 3. I set it to 80%. It s usually 79% in the morning. I don t know at what point it starts recharging if it weren t driven. You could always go in the app though and move the charge limit up to force it to start charging. | TheKobayashiMoron | 2018-10-07 21:23:23 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9m8rd6 | [Discussion] how much does your battery charge deplete overnight after reaching the set charge limit? Is 1% to 2% overnight typical? | I have a new model S P100D which seems to work great in all respects. I have a question about charging. I have the charge limit set to 90% and at home I have installed an L2 240 volt 40 amp charging outlet. When I get here me from work in the evening I plug the charger in and the reaches the 90% charge limit in about an hour and a half. However I have noticed that by the following morning when I leave the car charge level has dropped to 89%. This weekend on Friday evening I plugged into the charger and the car finished charging as usual after an hour and a half or so. I didn t go out on Saturday but I did keep checking the car status every few hours with my phone to see if it had received the version 9 firmware update yet (I am still waiting for this sadly). This morning when I got in the car to go out the charge level was down to 88% and dropped to 87% right as I pulled out of the driveway. My expectation is that the car would keep the charge level at 90% as long as it s still hooked up to the charging plug or at least once it drops by some amount like 1-2% that it would begin charging again. Will the car not start charging again if the charge level drops significantly? What if I don t drive for a week will it be down 7-10% from the set charge limit? Is an overnight drop of 1-2% normal? | scubascratch | 2018-10-07 21:07:55 | 12 | e7cvwip | I left my P3D at the airport for 6 days and it lost 10 miles of range total. I was expecting that it would lose more than that so I m happy. | spindrift_20 | 2018-10-07 21:57:43 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9m8rd6 | [Discussion] how much does your battery charge deplete overnight after reaching the set charge limit? Is 1% to 2% overnight typical? | I have a new model S P100D which seems to work great in all respects. I have a question about charging. I have the charge limit set to 90% and at home I have installed an L2 240 volt 40 amp charging outlet. When I get here me from work in the evening I plug the charger in and the reaches the 90% charge limit in about an hour and a half. However I have noticed that by the following morning when I leave the car charge level has dropped to 89%. This weekend on Friday evening I plugged into the charger and the car finished charging as usual after an hour and a half or so. I didn t go out on Saturday but I did keep checking the car status every few hours with my phone to see if it had received the version 9 firmware update yet (I am still waiting for this sadly). This morning when I got in the car to go out the charge level was down to 88% and dropped to 87% right as I pulled out of the driveway. My expectation is that the car would keep the charge level at 90% as long as it s still hooked up to the charging plug or at least once it drops by some amount like 1-2% that it would begin charging again. Will the car not start charging again if the charge level drops significantly? What if I don t drive for a week will it be down 7-10% from the set charge limit? Is an overnight drop of 1-2% normal? | scubascratch | 2018-10-07 21:07:55 | 12 | e7cuxlt | The manual says to expect 1% drain per day | Athabascad | 2018-10-07 21:43:17 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9m8rd6 | [Discussion] how much does your battery charge deplete overnight after reaching the set charge limit? Is 1% to 2% overnight typical? | I have a new model S P100D which seems to work great in all respects. I have a question about charging. I have the charge limit set to 90% and at home I have installed an L2 240 volt 40 amp charging outlet. When I get here me from work in the evening I plug the charger in and the reaches the 90% charge limit in about an hour and a half. However I have noticed that by the following morning when I leave the car charge level has dropped to 89%. This weekend on Friday evening I plugged into the charger and the car finished charging as usual after an hour and a half or so. I didn t go out on Saturday but I did keep checking the car status every few hours with my phone to see if it had received the version 9 firmware update yet (I am still waiting for this sadly). This morning when I got in the car to go out the charge level was down to 88% and dropped to 87% right as I pulled out of the driveway. My expectation is that the car would keep the charge level at 90% as long as it s still hooked up to the charging plug or at least once it drops by some amount like 1-2% that it would begin charging again. Will the car not start charging again if the charge level drops significantly? What if I don t drive for a week will it be down 7-10% from the set charge limit? Is an overnight drop of 1-2% normal? | scubascratch | 2018-10-07 21:07:55 | 12 | e7cvi3o | Yes mine is the same on a Model 3. The one way to fix this is to start the charge later. For that there is an option in the car itself. I also use a Juicebox pro 40 that also allows me to schedule charges. | amitbahree | 2018-10-07 21:51:36 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
avfu77 | [Discussion] in 2019.5.4 disabling autosteer and leaving TACC engaged keeps the speed setting the same again (YAY!) | Noticed today when I moved over to let a motorcycle split past and my TACC remained set at 65 instead of dropping to my speed at the time of override. I for one am very happy to see them reverting to the behavior as it was for years rather than the ridiculous system they put in place briefly. Apologies if this has been reported before but if it has my search-fu sucks. | run-the-joules | 2019-02-27 17:17:04 | 83 | eher1bt | YES! Finally! Thank you! | Flames5123 | 2019-02-27 17:30:41 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8n7sl0 | [Discussion] mobile connector use during inclement weather and storage when dirty or wet | The mobile connector is weather proof but from experience from people HOW weather proof are we talking? * 110 F outside and in direct sunlight? * 0 F outside? * heavy snow and wind? * heavy rain and wind? Additionally how do people put this back in your trunk if it s wet or dirty from bad weather without getting the dirt wet all over the place? Side note: I ve had an additional mobile connector on backorder for weeks now. Anyone else? | MrSolo1 | 2018-05-30 11:26:12 | 17 | dztgphd | Automotive electronics are typically rated to operate from \-40C to 120C and the charger is most likely completely sealed or potted from moisture. It should hopefully be intelligent enough to monitor isolation of all connections and disconnect or prevent any dangerous voltage if there was \(salty\) water on the plugs. In other words: you should have nothing to worry about. | jwardell | 2018-05-30 12:30:28 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8n7sl0 | [Discussion] mobile connector use during inclement weather and storage when dirty or wet | The mobile connector is weather proof but from experience from people HOW weather proof are we talking? * 110 F outside and in direct sunlight? * 0 F outside? * heavy snow and wind? * heavy rain and wind? Additionally how do people put this back in your trunk if it s wet or dirty from bad weather without getting the dirt wet all over the place? Side note: I ve had an additional mobile connector on backorder for weeks now. Anyone else? | MrSolo1 | 2018-05-30 11:26:12 | 17 | dzud0qs | I went camping this past weekend and left my 3 plugged into 120V at the campsite pretty much the entire time. It rained very heavily for a few hours Sunday morning and I had no issues with the car or the charger. I brought along a roll of black trash bags and just put everything \(charger included\) in those so it wouldn t get the car dirty then just sorted it out when I got home. | 6spdvtec | 2018-05-30 20:37:03 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9pqal4 | [Discussion] more affordable snow tire set up. what s the better of these 2 options? | I ve read all the winter tire posts on this subreddit but none specifically explore Tesla vs 3rd party winter wheels. I need to get winter tires for my RWD Model 3. Already decided to get separate rims and not be swapping tires. During summer I have the 19 sport wheels. I don t want to spend $3.5k for 19 sport winter wheels from Tesla: https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-3-19_-sport-wheel-and-winter-tire-package.html Here are the 2 options I have come up with: 1. $2000 for 18 Aero Wheel Winter Tire Package from Tesla: https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-3-18_-aero-wheel-and-winter-tire-package.html 2. $1 656 for WI15 wheels with X-ICE XI3 from Tire Rack: https: cl.ly a7f423dc1f9f Any thoughts? any reason to not go with the Tire Rack ones I think they actually look better than the Aero wheels. | cryptocrypty | 2018-10-20 02:10:52 | 12 | e83lg6u | Go to Tire Rack and check out the Enkei Fujin wheels on close out at $137 ea with free shipping. These are high quality MAT Enkeis MAT = flow formed barrels which are stronger and lighter about 18.4 lbs each in 18x8. Call Tire Rack and see if they will put the XI3s on those wheels. I prefer the Blizzak WS80 snows to the Michelins have had both and get more traction with the Blizzaks but don t know the price in Tesla size. | BEVboy | 2018-10-20 02:39:58 | 9 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
9pqal4 | [Discussion] more affordable snow tire set up. what s the better of these 2 options? | I ve read all the winter tire posts on this subreddit but none specifically explore Tesla vs 3rd party winter wheels. I need to get winter tires for my RWD Model 3. Already decided to get separate rims and not be swapping tires. During summer I have the 19 sport wheels. I don t want to spend $3.5k for 19 sport winter wheels from Tesla: https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-3-19_-sport-wheel-and-winter-tire-package.html Here are the 2 options I have come up with: 1. $2000 for 18 Aero Wheel Winter Tire Package from Tesla: https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-3-18_-aero-wheel-and-winter-tire-package.html 2. $1 656 for WI15 wheels with X-ICE XI3 from Tire Rack: https: cl.ly a7f423dc1f9f Any thoughts? any reason to not go with the Tire Rack ones I think they actually look better than the Aero wheels. | cryptocrypty | 2018-10-20 02:10:52 | 12 | e83mcs9 | I went with a TireRack solution for my 3 since even with TPMS it s about $500 cheaper than the Tesla version. And I can self-install rather than drive over 100 miles to the service center. They arrived yesterday so I haven t installed yet but everything looks great. I ve used Blizzaks before but the Xi3 are what I ended up with as well. | notsooriginal | 2018-10-20 02:57:08 | 7 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
7m02z0 | [Discussion] thousands model 3 still possible by December? | Elon said production will be at thousands by December but delivery definitely doesn t seem like thousands. But maybe production? In the next 7 days maybe? Ps: all non employee deliveries seems to be white colored model 3 right now. | LYFpower | 2017-12-25 06:42:34 | 12 | drqug1w | I read in the comment section of an article on Electrek about someone who has a close friend working in the Fremont factory. He said his friend told him they did bursts of 500cars in one day a week ago already. Add to that the suppliers having said they have to fly in parts by plane(!) to meet the demand which currently rose to 5000 wk down from 3000 wk. Also the 700ish model 3s spotted at the fremont factory a few days ago are good indications of much higher production rates. I am confident there will be several thousands. | _kempert | 2017-12-25 17:51:45 | 7 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
7m02z0 | [Discussion] thousands model 3 still possible by December? | Elon said production will be at thousands by December but delivery definitely doesn t seem like thousands. But maybe production? In the next 7 days maybe? Ps: all non employee deliveries seems to be white colored model 3 right now. | LYFpower | 2017-12-25 06:42:34 | 12 | drqoqq5 | Tens of thousands will be out by the end of the month the cross-country autonomous drive will happen by December 31st you ll be able to take Hyperloop for a 10 minute commute fly a rocket anywhere on earth in less than 30 minutes and humans will be on Mars soon. https: youtu.be 1k8craCGpgs | reddit_sucks_peepee | 2017-12-25 15:21:06 | 5 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
7v8d88 | [Discussion] unplugged by Tesla employee while charging legal? | Last night we stopped by a Tesla showroom and in the parking area they have spots for Tesla s to charge. They also have a sign saying that if you are charging your car please give them a call to unplug your call after it s done charging. So we parked and plugged in our car and not 15 minutes later received a notification that charging was interrupted. I walked back to confirm and yes my car was unplugged and the cable was in one of the demo cars. Our car was locked preventing removal of the cable so that means a Tesla employee remotely unlocked our car without permission to remove the cable. I am not sure how to feel about this. Has anyone heard of this happening?? https: i.imgur.com eaiqOay.jpg | errorunknown | 2018-02-04 18:11:13 | 106 | dtqfhfh | As a lawyer: don t immediately think of this in legal terms. Ask the showroom people what (may have) happened. There may have been a misunderstanding an intern making a mistake who knows? Solutions are mostly met on a human not a legal level. Legal should always be a last resort. | Dutchlawyer | 2018-02-04 20:07:55 | 95 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7v8d88 | [Discussion] unplugged by Tesla employee while charging legal? | Last night we stopped by a Tesla showroom and in the parking area they have spots for Tesla s to charge. They also have a sign saying that if you are charging your car please give them a call to unplug your call after it s done charging. So we parked and plugged in our car and not 15 minutes later received a notification that charging was interrupted. I walked back to confirm and yes my car was unplugged and the cable was in one of the demo cars. Our car was locked preventing removal of the cable so that means a Tesla employee remotely unlocked our car without permission to remove the cable. I am not sure how to feel about this. Has anyone heard of this happening?? https: i.imgur.com eaiqOay.jpg | errorunknown | 2018-02-04 18:11:13 | 106 | dtq9oic | I have never heard of this and I don t think tesla employees have access to unlock private cars. Perhaps this charger doesn t have locking mechanism for this reason. Still not a good thing to do. I ll call them and have them explain. Please keep us updated | dieabetic | 2018-02-04 18:29:27 | 94 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7v8d88 | [Discussion] unplugged by Tesla employee while charging legal? | Last night we stopped by a Tesla showroom and in the parking area they have spots for Tesla s to charge. They also have a sign saying that if you are charging your car please give them a call to unplug your call after it s done charging. So we parked and plugged in our car and not 15 minutes later received a notification that charging was interrupted. I walked back to confirm and yes my car was unplugged and the cable was in one of the demo cars. Our car was locked preventing removal of the cable so that means a Tesla employee remotely unlocked our car without permission to remove the cable. I am not sure how to feel about this. Has anyone heard of this happening?? https: i.imgur.com eaiqOay.jpg | errorunknown | 2018-02-04 18:11:13 | 106 | dtrbt3l | They can t remotly access your car. But they can access the charger on the wall and override the lock. (the charger is what enables the lock not the car) This is a safety feature for emergency situations in which the car can t be accessed. Or in your case if they have a client coming to test drive a almost dead new tesla and some guy just showed up and started charging without calling ahead. Source: I install supercharger stations nationwide for Tesla. | cptsamir | 2018-02-05 06:05:34 | 18 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7v8d88 | [Discussion] unplugged by Tesla employee while charging legal? | Last night we stopped by a Tesla showroom and in the parking area they have spots for Tesla s to charge. They also have a sign saying that if you are charging your car please give them a call to unplug your call after it s done charging. So we parked and plugged in our car and not 15 minutes later received a notification that charging was interrupted. I walked back to confirm and yes my car was unplugged and the cable was in one of the demo cars. Our car was locked preventing removal of the cable so that means a Tesla employee remotely unlocked our car without permission to remove the cable. I am not sure how to feel about this. Has anyone heard of this happening?? https: i.imgur.com eaiqOay.jpg | errorunknown | 2018-02-04 18:11:13 | 106 | dtqe04s | How do you know they unlocked your car and not just canceled the charging process? | lpeterl | 2018-02-04 19:41:36 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7v8d88 | [Discussion] unplugged by Tesla employee while charging legal? | Last night we stopped by a Tesla showroom and in the parking area they have spots for Tesla s to charge. They also have a sign saying that if you are charging your car please give them a call to unplug your call after it s done charging. So we parked and plugged in our car and not 15 minutes later received a notification that charging was interrupted. I walked back to confirm and yes my car was unplugged and the cable was in one of the demo cars. Our car was locked preventing removal of the cable so that means a Tesla employee remotely unlocked our car without permission to remove the cable. I am not sure how to feel about this. Has anyone heard of this happening?? https: i.imgur.com eaiqOay.jpg | errorunknown | 2018-02-04 18:11:13 | 106 | dtqhiz1 | Maybe you should have asked an employee instead of spreading rumors on Reddit. | angrydigger | 2018-02-04 20:44:57 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7v8d88 | [Discussion] unplugged by Tesla employee while charging legal? | Last night we stopped by a Tesla showroom and in the parking area they have spots for Tesla s to charge. They also have a sign saying that if you are charging your car please give them a call to unplug your call after it s done charging. So we parked and plugged in our car and not 15 minutes later received a notification that charging was interrupted. I walked back to confirm and yes my car was unplugged and the cable was in one of the demo cars. Our car was locked preventing removal of the cable so that means a Tesla employee remotely unlocked our car without permission to remove the cable. I am not sure how to feel about this. Has anyone heard of this happening?? https: i.imgur.com eaiqOay.jpg | errorunknown | 2018-02-04 18:11:13 | 106 | dtqa29c | Although I do not know enough to dispute your claims in my experience anyone can unplug a Tesla destination charger plug at Tesla charging locations. I have done it before to my own car without my key. I assume it is because Tesla wants to reserve the right to what they ve done to you unplug the car for other cars that have a higher charging priority. | Trytothink | 2018-02-04 18:35:39 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
99205f | [Discussion] v3 SuperCharger for Existing Cars | Hi All I m thinking about taking the plunge and ordering a new Tesla before unlimited supercharging is gone for good. The one thing that is preventing me from taking the plunge right now is the v3 supercharging announcement that s supposed to happen at the end of year (initially end of summer). What I m wondering here is whether or not it will be possible for cars that come off the assembly line now to be able to charge at 200-300kw when the v3 stalls become available? Or do you guys think this will only be for new cars after the announcement? My thought on this is that this will most likely only be available for new cars after the announcement? Why? Because if there were support for this within existing vehicles it would make sense for Tesla to pre-announce that cars made today will have support for faster charging. The middle-ground here is that existing cars can be upgraded to do faster charging. If that s the case what do you think would need to be replaced? The entire battery? Or some smaller components in the car? Anyhow think it s worth waiting to find out? Or think it s worth biting the bullet and going for it now? And for that matter given either one or the other which do you think is the better thing to have? Faster charging or free charging? Thoughts welcome. | SeventhCycle | 2018-08-21 10:22:18 | 14 | e4kg3px | The Model 3 was rated at the EPA for being able to accept a DC current at 525amps at 400 volts. That is 210KW. | jumpmanj2395 | 2018-08-21 12:48:06 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
99205f | [Discussion] v3 SuperCharger for Existing Cars | Hi All I m thinking about taking the plunge and ordering a new Tesla before unlimited supercharging is gone for good. The one thing that is preventing me from taking the plunge right now is the v3 supercharging announcement that s supposed to happen at the end of year (initially end of summer). What I m wondering here is whether or not it will be possible for cars that come off the assembly line now to be able to charge at 200-300kw when the v3 stalls become available? Or do you guys think this will only be for new cars after the announcement? My thought on this is that this will most likely only be available for new cars after the announcement? Why? Because if there were support for this within existing vehicles it would make sense for Tesla to pre-announce that cars made today will have support for faster charging. The middle-ground here is that existing cars can be upgraded to do faster charging. If that s the case what do you think would need to be replaced? The entire battery? Or some smaller components in the car? Anyhow think it s worth waiting to find out? Or think it s worth biting the bullet and going for it now? And for that matter given either one or the other which do you think is the better thing to have? Faster charging or free charging? Thoughts welcome. | SeventhCycle | 2018-08-21 10:22:18 | 14 | e4ki3km | I d say minimal improvement to existing cars. On my model 3 charging from 5% to 55% takes about 18 minutes currently (37.5kWh 120kW) (1h 60minutes). Using the current tamper rate from abetterrouteplanner the battery could potentially sustain 180kW until 15% and 160kW until 30% 140kW until 45%. This would reduce this 5-55% charge time by about 4-5minutes at most and a more typical 15%-55% by only 2-3 minutes. If you use the superchargers daily this definitely adds up quickly but for my limited usage it doesn t do much. | iiixii | 2018-08-21 13:25:43 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
99205f | [Discussion] v3 SuperCharger for Existing Cars | Hi All I m thinking about taking the plunge and ordering a new Tesla before unlimited supercharging is gone for good. The one thing that is preventing me from taking the plunge right now is the v3 supercharging announcement that s supposed to happen at the end of year (initially end of summer). What I m wondering here is whether or not it will be possible for cars that come off the assembly line now to be able to charge at 200-300kw when the v3 stalls become available? Or do you guys think this will only be for new cars after the announcement? My thought on this is that this will most likely only be available for new cars after the announcement? Why? Because if there were support for this within existing vehicles it would make sense for Tesla to pre-announce that cars made today will have support for faster charging. The middle-ground here is that existing cars can be upgraded to do faster charging. If that s the case what do you think would need to be replaced? The entire battery? Or some smaller components in the car? Anyhow think it s worth waiting to find out? Or think it s worth biting the bullet and going for it now? And for that matter given either one or the other which do you think is the better thing to have? Faster charging or free charging? Thoughts welcome. | SeventhCycle | 2018-08-21 10:22:18 | 14 | e4kaun5 | Model 3 might already be capable of higher charging power. https: youtu.be rDYbvI32OBE | g-ff | 2018-08-21 10:26:30 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
99205f | [Discussion] v3 SuperCharger for Existing Cars | Hi All I m thinking about taking the plunge and ordering a new Tesla before unlimited supercharging is gone for good. The one thing that is preventing me from taking the plunge right now is the v3 supercharging announcement that s supposed to happen at the end of year (initially end of summer). What I m wondering here is whether or not it will be possible for cars that come off the assembly line now to be able to charge at 200-300kw when the v3 stalls become available? Or do you guys think this will only be for new cars after the announcement? My thought on this is that this will most likely only be available for new cars after the announcement? Why? Because if there were support for this within existing vehicles it would make sense for Tesla to pre-announce that cars made today will have support for faster charging. The middle-ground here is that existing cars can be upgraded to do faster charging. If that s the case what do you think would need to be replaced? The entire battery? Or some smaller components in the car? Anyhow think it s worth waiting to find out? Or think it s worth biting the bullet and going for it now? And for that matter given either one or the other which do you think is the better thing to have? Faster charging or free charging? Thoughts welcome. | SeventhCycle | 2018-08-21 10:22:18 | 14 | e4kb52m | I would say free is more important. It will be years before the v3 super chargers are common. | JFreader | 2018-08-21 10:35:36 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
agybs3 | [Discussion] Canadian cold costs me 50km (31 miles) of range overnight. Car is too cold to wake up. Why isn t power diverted to keep battery warm? | I think 50 km overnight counts for 10% of my Model 3 s range dropped in one day. Over a week I lose 70% of my range. I wonder if leaving climate on would lead to a less reduction in range. I read about other EVs having an option to divert some power to keeping batteries warm and somehow that leads to overall less range reduction. Is there a reason why Tesla isn t doing that? Has anyone tried keeping climate on overnight and seeing if the hit on range is that severe? | TareXmd | 2019-01-17 14:33:42 | 110 | ee9xamj | I m not 100% on this someone jump in if this is not correct but I believe the Model 3 does not have a separate battery heater like the S and X do. It uses the drive motor to warm the battery. | TheKobayashiMoron | 2019-01-17 14:55:01 | 36 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
agybs3 | [Discussion] Canadian cold costs me 50km (31 miles) of range overnight. Car is too cold to wake up. Why isn t power diverted to keep battery warm? | I think 50 km overnight counts for 10% of my Model 3 s range dropped in one day. Over a week I lose 70% of my range. I wonder if leaving climate on would lead to a less reduction in range. I read about other EVs having an option to divert some power to keeping batteries warm and somehow that leads to overall less range reduction. Is there a reason why Tesla isn t doing that? Has anyone tried keeping climate on overnight and seeing if the hit on range is that severe? | TareXmd | 2019-01-17 14:33:42 | 110 | ee9wper | This should answer your questions & #x200B [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=f4UKofzob20](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=f4UKofzob20) & #x200B TL DW: 38% loss overnight. | w0rd3r | 2019-01-17 14:47:20 | 13 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
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