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agybs3 | [Discussion] Canadian cold costs me 50km (31 miles) of range overnight. Car is too cold to wake up. Why isn t power diverted to keep battery warm? | I think 50 km overnight counts for 10% of my Model 3 s range dropped in one day. Over a week I lose 70% of my range. I wonder if leaving climate on would lead to a less reduction in range. I read about other EVs having an option to divert some power to keeping batteries warm and somehow that leads to overall less range reduction. Is there a reason why Tesla isn t doing that? Has anyone tried keeping climate on overnight and seeing if the hit on range is that severe? | TareXmd | 2019-01-17 14:33:42 | 110 | ee9z607 | I live in the north and don t loose as much range and the car has never been too cold to wake up. That said there haven t been too many -10 days so far. You will gain range once the battery heats up which doesn t seem to take very long driving - maybe 10 min. Can you leave the car plugged in overnight? I m not sure this is much you can do other than keeping the car plugged-in which is what Tesla recommends. | switzch | 2019-01-17 15:18:35 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
agybs3 | [Discussion] Canadian cold costs me 50km (31 miles) of range overnight. Car is too cold to wake up. Why isn t power diverted to keep battery warm? | I think 50 km overnight counts for 10% of my Model 3 s range dropped in one day. Over a week I lose 70% of my range. I wonder if leaving climate on would lead to a less reduction in range. I read about other EVs having an option to divert some power to keeping batteries warm and somehow that leads to overall less range reduction. Is there a reason why Tesla isn t doing that? Has anyone tried keeping climate on overnight and seeing if the hit on range is that severe? | TareXmd | 2019-01-17 14:33:42 | 110 | eea0d39 | Oh wow sucks sorry man. You charging at work? | sss179 | 2019-01-17 15:32:03 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
agybs3 | [Discussion] Canadian cold costs me 50km (31 miles) of range overnight. Car is too cold to wake up. Why isn t power diverted to keep battery warm? | I think 50 km overnight counts for 10% of my Model 3 s range dropped in one day. Over a week I lose 70% of my range. I wonder if leaving climate on would lead to a less reduction in range. I read about other EVs having an option to divert some power to keeping batteries warm and somehow that leads to overall less range reduction. Is there a reason why Tesla isn t doing that? Has anyone tried keeping climate on overnight and seeing if the hit on range is that severe? | TareXmd | 2019-01-17 14:33:42 | 110 | eea7pkt | OP you should also keep this in mind: https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1068969435732434945 | croninsiglos | 2019-01-17 16:54:34 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
85zvt3 | [Discussion] “Invite Wednesday” approaching. Expecting big batch | So “invite Wednesday” is approaching has anyone got any invites yet? I just checked mytesla nothing yet. I am Apr-June (i know too hopeful) Expecting big batch this week. What do you guys think? | Space-n-Spice | 2018-03-21 06:03:59 | 46 | dw1idy6 | Hoping you re right. A guy standing three spots in front of me got to configure 2 22 so I m going nuts... | etm33 | 2018-03-21 10:09:46 | 18 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
85zvt3 | [Discussion] “Invite Wednesday” approaching. Expecting big batch | So “invite Wednesday” is approaching has anyone got any invites yet? I just checked mytesla nothing yet. I am Apr-June (i know too hopeful) Expecting big batch this week. What do you guys think? | Space-n-Spice | 2018-03-21 06:03:59 | 46 | dw1lt81 | [Hitting F5 Wednesday afternoon like...](http: i.giphy.com W0rn83tb8a1yM.gif) | Sacaraster | 2018-03-21 12:05:22 | 17 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
85zvt3 | [Discussion] “Invite Wednesday” approaching. Expecting big batch | So “invite Wednesday” is approaching has anyone got any invites yet? I just checked mytesla nothing yet. I am Apr-June (i know too hopeful) Expecting big batch this week. What do you guys think? | Space-n-Spice | 2018-03-21 06:03:59 | 46 | dw1cc0n | Just wondering. Why are we expecting a big batch? | ventsol | 2018-03-21 06:06:45 | 11 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
85zvt3 | [Discussion] “Invite Wednesday” approaching. Expecting big batch | So “invite Wednesday” is approaching has anyone got any invites yet? I just checked mytesla nothing yet. I am Apr-June (i know too hopeful) Expecting big batch this week. What do you guys think? | Space-n-Spice | 2018-03-21 06:03:59 | 46 | dw1h0vl | I m not gonna get my hopes up lol. It ll come when it comes | bittabet | 2018-03-21 09:11:58 | 8 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
85zvt3 | [Discussion] “Invite Wednesday” approaching. Expecting big batch | So “invite Wednesday” is approaching has anyone got any invites yet? I just checked mytesla nothing yet. I am Apr-June (i know too hopeful) Expecting big batch this week. What do you guys think? | Space-n-Spice | 2018-03-21 06:03:59 | 46 | dw1qm05 | Very little chance for you with an April-June estimate. There are so many of us with March-May estimates still waiting for invites :| | geoffreak | 2018-03-21 13:48:54 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
85zvt3 | [Discussion] “Invite Wednesday” approaching. Expecting big batch | So “invite Wednesday” is approaching has anyone got any invites yet? I just checked mytesla nothing yet. I am Apr-June (i know too hopeful) Expecting big batch this week. What do you guys think? | Space-n-Spice | 2018-03-21 06:03:59 | 46 | dw2z6tu | Looks like we might have a dud here. | WubbaLubbaDubDub123 | 2018-03-22 01:21:29 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
85zvt3 | [Discussion] “Invite Wednesday” approaching. Expecting big batch | So “invite Wednesday” is approaching has anyone got any invites yet? I just checked mytesla nothing yet. I am Apr-June (i know too hopeful) Expecting big batch this week. What do you guys think? | Space-n-Spice | 2018-03-21 06:03:59 | 46 | dw23qkv | As a friendly reminder you can bookmark the following URL in your browser and just click on it randomly throughout the day as needed: https: 3.tesla.com model3 design xxxxxxxxx Just replace the x s with your RN from your Tesla account. | OverClokx | 2018-03-21 17:09:52 | 5 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
8zpig6 | [Discussion]2018 MS P100D Hepa filter | I have pretty bad seasonal allergies. I m trying to figure out how my current Model S handles outside air. Does it put it through any filters does it re-circulate inside air ? The settings really don t offer any options with respect to air handling. I have heard of hepa filters and bio-defense mode in Teslas but my research isn t yielding definitive results for Model S. I called Tesla service and asked about a hepa filter upgrade and was told that they could put in a hepa filter ($350) but couldn t configure the car for it. I asked what exactly that meant but the person really didn t know. So I m hoping someone on this sub can provide some further info ? Thanks if you can ! | mintakax | 2018-07-17 21:55:10 | 11 | e2kgjxi | If you don t have the HEPA filter it s because you didn t buy the Premium Upgrades Package. You can buy the HEPA filter later on and install it yourself (I think the filter costs about $175). However Tesla will not install the Bio Weapons Defense button since you didn t buy the Premium Upgrades Package but all it really does it set the fans at max drawing air from outside to create positive pressure. | SomedayTesla | 2018-07-17 22:01:15 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
awx6n1 | [Discussion]: Getting a heated steering wheel in a Model 3. | I ve posted this to elon I m hoping others will like or retweet to see if we can get a response. https: twitter.com dhanson865 status 1102278572377542658 If we can t get a Model 3 from the factory with a heated steering wheel then the next best option is for a service center mobile service to add it. If we can t get it from the factory or service center mobile service it would take aftermarket parts and installation. I m not sure how good an aftermarket solution would be though. Of all the configuration options on the Model 3 this is the one missing item that stands out. | dhanson865 | 2019-03-03 19:00:34 | 28 | ehpt7hj | There is already an aftermarket carbon fiber steering wheel by RPM Tesla so it could be done. I think most the current aftermarket suppliers are west coast and dont understand the need for a heated steering wheel. Although my preference would be for heated wiper blades. They ve been awful in the cold and snowy Minnesota winter. At times I cant even see out my windshield at all which is a safety issue that I think should be addressed. | johngalt192 | 2019-03-03 19:27:32 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
awx6n1 | [Discussion]: Getting a heated steering wheel in a Model 3. | I ve posted this to elon I m hoping others will like or retweet to see if we can get a response. https: twitter.com dhanson865 status 1102278572377542658 If we can t get a Model 3 from the factory with a heated steering wheel then the next best option is for a service center mobile service to add it. If we can t get it from the factory or service center mobile service it would take aftermarket parts and installation. I m not sure how good an aftermarket solution would be though. Of all the configuration options on the Model 3 this is the one missing item that stands out. | dhanson865 | 2019-03-03 19:00:34 | 28 | ehprfok | It would be a nice feature but honestly with the lack of IP in front of the wheel I have found the HVAC system offers pretty good flow in that area. | notsooriginal | 2019-03-03 19:04:53 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
awx6n1 | [Discussion]: Getting a heated steering wheel in a Model 3. | I ve posted this to elon I m hoping others will like or retweet to see if we can get a response. https: twitter.com dhanson865 status 1102278572377542658 If we can t get a Model 3 from the factory with a heated steering wheel then the next best option is for a service center mobile service to add it. If we can t get it from the factory or service center mobile service it would take aftermarket parts and installation. I m not sure how good an aftermarket solution would be though. Of all the configuration options on the Model 3 this is the one missing item that stands out. | dhanson865 | 2019-03-03 19:00:34 | 28 | ehqpjij | model 3 not having heated steering wheel is a big bummer-I don t like blasting heat to make my hand toasty even in ICE vehicles. Heated steering wheel plus heated seat is a perfect joy ride. | tashtibet | 2019-03-04 02:37:31 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
awx6n1 | [Discussion]: Getting a heated steering wheel in a Model 3. | I ve posted this to elon I m hoping others will like or retweet to see if we can get a response. https: twitter.com dhanson865 status 1102278572377542658 If we can t get a Model 3 from the factory with a heated steering wheel then the next best option is for a service center mobile service to add it. If we can t get it from the factory or service center mobile service it would take aftermarket parts and installation. I m not sure how good an aftermarket solution would be though. Of all the configuration options on the Model 3 this is the one missing item that stands out. | dhanson865 | 2019-03-03 19:00:34 | 28 | ehpsfof | I would like a heated steering wheel specifically so I don t need to use the HVAC system. I do a lot of drives that stress the range of even my LR Model 3 and frequently find myself needing to turn off the HVAC system in order to make the drive without running out of juice. My core is warm from the heated seat but my hands are always freezing. I ve thought a lot about a heated steering wheel and would definitely be willing to pay for it. Being able to integrate it into the app tesla s interface would be a huge plus of course which would only happen if it was first party. | crdnilfan | 2019-03-03 19:17:36 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7mvjbd | [Discussion]: How is the progress on Tesla s autopilot self driving software coming along? | So I heard there has been no autopilot software updates for more than 6 months now. I thought Musk said their cars would go from LA to NYC without a driver this year. Meanwhile Google is running a pilot in Phoenix with real self driving cars. Their hardware cars are great but its the software I am concerned about. On the software front Chris Lattner left Telsa in less than 6 months and they ended up hiring Karpathy to lead their autopilot team. This guy has no professional experience basically worked for a year (and another year interning). He is obviously a solid software AI guy but can he lead a team? Is it time to be a little pessimistic about Tesla? Basically if I am in the market for a car that will do self driving as the most important factor should I wait for a google powered car? I know people here follow Tesla a lot more than I do so thought I would ask here. | yalogin | 2017-12-29 17:10:09 | 51 | drx1itc | I don t think we will see cars for private use powered by Waymo tech in the near future. There was a collaboration with Honda so that could be a possibility. Honda is usually a cautious company so I don t expect anything to come from that synergy for a couple of years. There was a lot of hype in fairness it mostly originated from tweets or statements by Elon for some type of Tesla Level 4 5 autonomy capability demonstration by end of 2017. It didn t happen but I think there s more to that in a positive light. Tesla did show a Model X driving autonomously in 2016 and [electrek had more coverage on this R& D](https: electrek.co 2017 02 01 tesla-self-driving-model-x-prototypes-autonomous-miles ) Tesla did roll out incremental updates to throughout 2017 that improved enhanced autopilot primarily for highway marked and divided lane roads. Those updates in my opinion served to bring AP2 up to closer parity with AP1. In fairness some of those updates showed worsened AP2 performance for some owners. There s a lot of community members here that report AP2 now may perform better in events such as rain or predicting winding turns on the highway in addition to to regular highway use. Also present are in this community are owners who still haven t seen their vehicles AP2 performance at a preferable threshold (not holding onto lanes ping ponging). Lattner is a compiler master wizard. Leading autonomy was a great new area to approach but it didn t work out. I don t think of his brief tenure as a negative. He tried something different and found he wasn t an ideal fit. That s life. Personally I think before June 2018 we ll have a much better idea on where Tesla s progress stands in autonomy. I think AP2 enhanced autopilot will make a significant leap in reliability and expansion of road scenarios it can be used for with less driver involvement to be implemented by 2019. I think full self driving may be a slow roll out but certain owners may find certain routes such as their daily work commutes by 2020 become available on a level 4 capacity due to AP2 repeatedly over years recording that commutes data. Again — this is my hunch! Take with a grain of salt x 1000 and then be forced on a low sodium diet haha. Imo Waymo may the crown for autonomous driving but I think as we near next decade everyone s autonomy performance is going to perform near the same level of performance. Edit: TL DR - it may have been disheartening or frustrating to not get any major AP2 news this year. I d say keep optimistic that Tesla will come through in 2018. It s a big focus of the company and their crowd-source approach of learning via owners AP2 cam is novel to learning driving situations across the world. Delays stink but it usually leads to better things. Also I really want to eventually have my future Tesla take me home from a bar autonomously so I will continue to keep hopeful lol. | ChromeDome5 | 2017-12-29 18:11:00 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
7mvjbd | [Discussion]: How is the progress on Tesla s autopilot self driving software coming along? | So I heard there has been no autopilot software updates for more than 6 months now. I thought Musk said their cars would go from LA to NYC without a driver this year. Meanwhile Google is running a pilot in Phoenix with real self driving cars. Their hardware cars are great but its the software I am concerned about. On the software front Chris Lattner left Telsa in less than 6 months and they ended up hiring Karpathy to lead their autopilot team. This guy has no professional experience basically worked for a year (and another year interning). He is obviously a solid software AI guy but can he lead a team? Is it time to be a little pessimistic about Tesla? Basically if I am in the market for a car that will do self driving as the most important factor should I wait for a google powered car? I know people here follow Tesla a lot more than I do so thought I would ask here. | yalogin | 2017-12-29 17:10:09 | 51 | drx8pt4 | > So I heard there has been no autopilot software updates for more than 6 months now. That s just not true. Ask anyone who s experienced software version 2017.38 versus 2017.44. They ve made a lot of under-the-hood improvements that make existing features work much better than they used to. So while there aren t new features to crow about the computer got much better at driving the car. > Chris Lattner left Telsa in less than 6 months and they ended up hiring Karpathy to lead their autopilot team. > He is obviously a solid software AI guy but can he lead a team? I m going to say Yes based on the improvements we ve seen that are both obvious and not obvious. The neural net is now processing six cameras where before it was processing one or two. They may not be using the resulting data for much of anything yet but that s definitely progress and it s a critical component toward moving forward. Plus as I mentioned above the performance improvement of the system as a whole. > should I wait for a google powered car? There is no evidence that a Google product will be available in any context other than as a ride-share service at this time. I don t believe any major auto manufacturer has announced that they re going to make the Waymo Google product available to the public. Here s [my take](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6s6bxk can_we_talk_fsd_upgrade_for_a_minute dlaei2n ) on what happened between Tesla MobilEye and why we are where we are today. | majesticjg | 2017-12-29 20:25:21 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
7p086k | [Discussion]: Printed (Vinyl Sticker) Front Plate | I just got my first fixit ticket (by parking control and after 6 months of ownership and maybe 12 times parking in meters downtown San Francisco) for not having a front plate on my Model X. I am not going to drill three holes in my brand new bumper so I am looking into a long term solution. I understand there are no drill options. I am intrigued by the idea of a printed Reflective Vinyl Sticker that I can stick on the front. I saw a Model X at the Tesla Store in SF that had it and I think it looks better than the real thing. I understand that this is probably not exactly legal (in CA) but I think a judge cop would probably not spank me that hard if its my own plate. Is there anyone out there that has a printed Vinyl Sticker front plate that has had either good or bad experiences with parking control or law enforcement officers pertaining to the Vinyl Sticker front plate? Thanks for any and all enlightenment! | MrDERPMcDERP | 2018-01-08 17:50:11 | 12 | dsdmsra | I don t know about California but here in New York [a fake license plate is possession of a forged instrument a felony.](http: www.syracuse.com state index.ssf 2016 03 wny_woman_arrested_fake_license_plate_cardboard.html) Probably not a good idea. Can you access the back of the bumper cover? If you want to get creative maybe you could attach a strong magnet (away from any sensors) so you could slap the plate on the front bumper when you park and take it off when you come back. | TheKobayashiMoron | 2018-01-08 19:12:55 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf8yh | [Discussion]: TESLA Roadmap 2018-2022 (guesses) | Hi All Super long term lurker finally wanted to get some thoughts down. I wanted to speculate on Tesla s long-term roadmap based on tidbits we know and some educating guessing. After 2018 I won t speculate when they announce just go live. Here is my guess at the 2018-2022 Roadmap for Telsa. **2018** *Roadmap Additions (highly likely)* * Model 3 AWD * Model 3 Performance * Model 3 S X FSD * Model Y Reveal (October: to time with Q3 financial data release) *Key Knowledge points* * new Roadster uses 3 PM motors * 2170 s are a step change in efficiency and charging * Megacharges are coming * Elon stated (model Y after Model 3 truck after Model Y) **2019** *Roadmap Additions* * Gigafactory 3 (home of Model Y) - my guess Ohio * Gigafactory 4 - my guess China * Semi sleeper cab reveal * Semi 500kwh & 800kwh details emerge * Semi will be built at Gigafactory 1 **2020** *Model S Big Refresh* * 3 motor architecture of incoming roadster (2 rear PM 1 front PM motor) * 2170 s * 100kwh + 150kwh + 200kwh (enabling 300 450 600 miles) * First model available to mega chargers (200 miles in 10 minutes or less) * 0-60 (2.1 software limited) *Roadster 2.0* * All we know plus * 100kwh base model * adaptive suspension * new regen mode (track no need to brake on lapping days) * new cooling mode (for many hot laps) **2021** *Model Y launch* * AWD standard * The first car made in a dark factory Model X Major Refresh * following Model S updated architecture (bigger batteries mega charging etc) **2022** *Truck!* * 4 PM motor architecture debut * allows for independent wheel operation great for towing (the feature Elon teased on twitter) * 200 kwh and 400kwh (2170 s will be CHEAP by 2022) * 400 kwh allows for towing of maximum capacity 500 miles+ * Modify track mode regen for towing * Independent wheel drive for towing *[edit] formatting* | fromaboat | 2018-02-18 16:24:50 | 120 | dugo9ex | they re not gonna have FSD up in 2018 that s way too optimistic. They re still re-building the AP1 foundation that they lost from mobileeye. | UninspiredParking | 2018-02-18 22:36:22 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf8yh | [Discussion]: TESLA Roadmap 2018-2022 (guesses) | Hi All Super long term lurker finally wanted to get some thoughts down. I wanted to speculate on Tesla s long-term roadmap based on tidbits we know and some educating guessing. After 2018 I won t speculate when they announce just go live. Here is my guess at the 2018-2022 Roadmap for Telsa. **2018** *Roadmap Additions (highly likely)* * Model 3 AWD * Model 3 Performance * Model 3 S X FSD * Model Y Reveal (October: to time with Q3 financial data release) *Key Knowledge points* * new Roadster uses 3 PM motors * 2170 s are a step change in efficiency and charging * Megacharges are coming * Elon stated (model Y after Model 3 truck after Model Y) **2019** *Roadmap Additions* * Gigafactory 3 (home of Model Y) - my guess Ohio * Gigafactory 4 - my guess China * Semi sleeper cab reveal * Semi 500kwh & 800kwh details emerge * Semi will be built at Gigafactory 1 **2020** *Model S Big Refresh* * 3 motor architecture of incoming roadster (2 rear PM 1 front PM motor) * 2170 s * 100kwh + 150kwh + 200kwh (enabling 300 450 600 miles) * First model available to mega chargers (200 miles in 10 minutes or less) * 0-60 (2.1 software limited) *Roadster 2.0* * All we know plus * 100kwh base model * adaptive suspension * new regen mode (track no need to brake on lapping days) * new cooling mode (for many hot laps) **2021** *Model Y launch* * AWD standard * The first car made in a dark factory Model X Major Refresh * following Model S updated architecture (bigger batteries mega charging etc) **2022** *Truck!* * 4 PM motor architecture debut * allows for independent wheel operation great for towing (the feature Elon teased on twitter) * 200 kwh and 400kwh (2170 s will be CHEAP by 2022) * 400 kwh allows for towing of maximum capacity 500 miles+ * Modify track mode regen for towing * Independent wheel drive for towing *[edit] formatting* | fromaboat | 2018-02-18 16:24:50 | 120 | dug878f | Not bad. The Model S refresh will likely be much sooner than 2020 however and also not as aggressive as your feature-list. | venture70 | 2018-02-18 17:50:29 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf8yh | [Discussion]: TESLA Roadmap 2018-2022 (guesses) | Hi All Super long term lurker finally wanted to get some thoughts down. I wanted to speculate on Tesla s long-term roadmap based on tidbits we know and some educating guessing. After 2018 I won t speculate when they announce just go live. Here is my guess at the 2018-2022 Roadmap for Telsa. **2018** *Roadmap Additions (highly likely)* * Model 3 AWD * Model 3 Performance * Model 3 S X FSD * Model Y Reveal (October: to time with Q3 financial data release) *Key Knowledge points* * new Roadster uses 3 PM motors * 2170 s are a step change in efficiency and charging * Megacharges are coming * Elon stated (model Y after Model 3 truck after Model Y) **2019** *Roadmap Additions* * Gigafactory 3 (home of Model Y) - my guess Ohio * Gigafactory 4 - my guess China * Semi sleeper cab reveal * Semi 500kwh & 800kwh details emerge * Semi will be built at Gigafactory 1 **2020** *Model S Big Refresh* * 3 motor architecture of incoming roadster (2 rear PM 1 front PM motor) * 2170 s * 100kwh + 150kwh + 200kwh (enabling 300 450 600 miles) * First model available to mega chargers (200 miles in 10 minutes or less) * 0-60 (2.1 software limited) *Roadster 2.0* * All we know plus * 100kwh base model * adaptive suspension * new regen mode (track no need to brake on lapping days) * new cooling mode (for many hot laps) **2021** *Model Y launch* * AWD standard * The first car made in a dark factory Model X Major Refresh * following Model S updated architecture (bigger batteries mega charging etc) **2022** *Truck!* * 4 PM motor architecture debut * allows for independent wheel operation great for towing (the feature Elon teased on twitter) * 200 kwh and 400kwh (2170 s will be CHEAP by 2022) * 400 kwh allows for towing of maximum capacity 500 miles+ * Modify track mode regen for towing * Independent wheel drive for towing *[edit] formatting* | fromaboat | 2018-02-18 16:24:50 | 120 | dugbu83 | I don t think it is in Tesla s best interest to have the Model S go until 2020 without some type of refresh be it visual the interior the electrical mechanical components or a combination of that. Edit: the S is a high-priced high-margin vehicle so it means a lot for Tesla s bottom line to maintain the sales momentum for the S. I think a refresh that just updates the computer software to be more zippy and the addition of door pockets etc could go a way towards a full eventual redesign. | ChromeDome5 | 2018-02-18 18:46:50 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf8yh | [Discussion]: TESLA Roadmap 2018-2022 (guesses) | Hi All Super long term lurker finally wanted to get some thoughts down. I wanted to speculate on Tesla s long-term roadmap based on tidbits we know and some educating guessing. After 2018 I won t speculate when they announce just go live. Here is my guess at the 2018-2022 Roadmap for Telsa. **2018** *Roadmap Additions (highly likely)* * Model 3 AWD * Model 3 Performance * Model 3 S X FSD * Model Y Reveal (October: to time with Q3 financial data release) *Key Knowledge points* * new Roadster uses 3 PM motors * 2170 s are a step change in efficiency and charging * Megacharges are coming * Elon stated (model Y after Model 3 truck after Model Y) **2019** *Roadmap Additions* * Gigafactory 3 (home of Model Y) - my guess Ohio * Gigafactory 4 - my guess China * Semi sleeper cab reveal * Semi 500kwh & 800kwh details emerge * Semi will be built at Gigafactory 1 **2020** *Model S Big Refresh* * 3 motor architecture of incoming roadster (2 rear PM 1 front PM motor) * 2170 s * 100kwh + 150kwh + 200kwh (enabling 300 450 600 miles) * First model available to mega chargers (200 miles in 10 minutes or less) * 0-60 (2.1 software limited) *Roadster 2.0* * All we know plus * 100kwh base model * adaptive suspension * new regen mode (track no need to brake on lapping days) * new cooling mode (for many hot laps) **2021** *Model Y launch* * AWD standard * The first car made in a dark factory Model X Major Refresh * following Model S updated architecture (bigger batteries mega charging etc) **2022** *Truck!* * 4 PM motor architecture debut * allows for independent wheel operation great for towing (the feature Elon teased on twitter) * 200 kwh and 400kwh (2170 s will be CHEAP by 2022) * 400 kwh allows for towing of maximum capacity 500 miles+ * Modify track mode regen for towing * Independent wheel drive for towing *[edit] formatting* | fromaboat | 2018-02-18 16:24:50 | 120 | dugigxh | FSD as in Level 4 5 autonomy is not happening this year. Find any experts in self driving and they ll tell you it s years away yet. My bet is a more modest highway on ramp off ramp driving | Strood | 2018-02-18 20:49:08 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf8yh | [Discussion]: TESLA Roadmap 2018-2022 (guesses) | Hi All Super long term lurker finally wanted to get some thoughts down. I wanted to speculate on Tesla s long-term roadmap based on tidbits we know and some educating guessing. After 2018 I won t speculate when they announce just go live. Here is my guess at the 2018-2022 Roadmap for Telsa. **2018** *Roadmap Additions (highly likely)* * Model 3 AWD * Model 3 Performance * Model 3 S X FSD * Model Y Reveal (October: to time with Q3 financial data release) *Key Knowledge points* * new Roadster uses 3 PM motors * 2170 s are a step change in efficiency and charging * Megacharges are coming * Elon stated (model Y after Model 3 truck after Model Y) **2019** *Roadmap Additions* * Gigafactory 3 (home of Model Y) - my guess Ohio * Gigafactory 4 - my guess China * Semi sleeper cab reveal * Semi 500kwh & 800kwh details emerge * Semi will be built at Gigafactory 1 **2020** *Model S Big Refresh* * 3 motor architecture of incoming roadster (2 rear PM 1 front PM motor) * 2170 s * 100kwh + 150kwh + 200kwh (enabling 300 450 600 miles) * First model available to mega chargers (200 miles in 10 minutes or less) * 0-60 (2.1 software limited) *Roadster 2.0* * All we know plus * 100kwh base model * adaptive suspension * new regen mode (track no need to brake on lapping days) * new cooling mode (for many hot laps) **2021** *Model Y launch* * AWD standard * The first car made in a dark factory Model X Major Refresh * following Model S updated architecture (bigger batteries mega charging etc) **2022** *Truck!* * 4 PM motor architecture debut * allows for independent wheel operation great for towing (the feature Elon teased on twitter) * 200 kwh and 400kwh (2170 s will be CHEAP by 2022) * 400 kwh allows for towing of maximum capacity 500 miles+ * Modify track mode regen for towing * Independent wheel drive for towing *[edit] formatting* | fromaboat | 2018-02-18 16:24:50 | 120 | dugiapi | Super Tesla Long here. I believe the Elon Musk aggressive timelines. The one I struggle the most with is FSD. I believe EAP might be available in 2018 and FSD maybe late 2020 at the earliest. There are just too many edge cases. | azntorian | 2018-02-18 20:45:49 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf8yh | [Discussion]: TESLA Roadmap 2018-2022 (guesses) | Hi All Super long term lurker finally wanted to get some thoughts down. I wanted to speculate on Tesla s long-term roadmap based on tidbits we know and some educating guessing. After 2018 I won t speculate when they announce just go live. Here is my guess at the 2018-2022 Roadmap for Telsa. **2018** *Roadmap Additions (highly likely)* * Model 3 AWD * Model 3 Performance * Model 3 S X FSD * Model Y Reveal (October: to time with Q3 financial data release) *Key Knowledge points* * new Roadster uses 3 PM motors * 2170 s are a step change in efficiency and charging * Megacharges are coming * Elon stated (model Y after Model 3 truck after Model Y) **2019** *Roadmap Additions* * Gigafactory 3 (home of Model Y) - my guess Ohio * Gigafactory 4 - my guess China * Semi sleeper cab reveal * Semi 500kwh & 800kwh details emerge * Semi will be built at Gigafactory 1 **2020** *Model S Big Refresh* * 3 motor architecture of incoming roadster (2 rear PM 1 front PM motor) * 2170 s * 100kwh + 150kwh + 200kwh (enabling 300 450 600 miles) * First model available to mega chargers (200 miles in 10 minutes or less) * 0-60 (2.1 software limited) *Roadster 2.0* * All we know plus * 100kwh base model * adaptive suspension * new regen mode (track no need to brake on lapping days) * new cooling mode (for many hot laps) **2021** *Model Y launch* * AWD standard * The first car made in a dark factory Model X Major Refresh * following Model S updated architecture (bigger batteries mega charging etc) **2022** *Truck!* * 4 PM motor architecture debut * allows for independent wheel operation great for towing (the feature Elon teased on twitter) * 200 kwh and 400kwh (2170 s will be CHEAP by 2022) * 400 kwh allows for towing of maximum capacity 500 miles+ * Modify track mode regen for towing * Independent wheel drive for towing *[edit] formatting* | fromaboat | 2018-02-18 16:24:50 | 120 | dug2lip | This makes me incredibly hyped for the future. Great Post! | themazuu | 2018-02-18 16:30:09 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf8yh | [Discussion]: TESLA Roadmap 2018-2022 (guesses) | Hi All Super long term lurker finally wanted to get some thoughts down. I wanted to speculate on Tesla s long-term roadmap based on tidbits we know and some educating guessing. After 2018 I won t speculate when they announce just go live. Here is my guess at the 2018-2022 Roadmap for Telsa. **2018** *Roadmap Additions (highly likely)* * Model 3 AWD * Model 3 Performance * Model 3 S X FSD * Model Y Reveal (October: to time with Q3 financial data release) *Key Knowledge points* * new Roadster uses 3 PM motors * 2170 s are a step change in efficiency and charging * Megacharges are coming * Elon stated (model Y after Model 3 truck after Model Y) **2019** *Roadmap Additions* * Gigafactory 3 (home of Model Y) - my guess Ohio * Gigafactory 4 - my guess China * Semi sleeper cab reveal * Semi 500kwh & 800kwh details emerge * Semi will be built at Gigafactory 1 **2020** *Model S Big Refresh* * 3 motor architecture of incoming roadster (2 rear PM 1 front PM motor) * 2170 s * 100kwh + 150kwh + 200kwh (enabling 300 450 600 miles) * First model available to mega chargers (200 miles in 10 minutes or less) * 0-60 (2.1 software limited) *Roadster 2.0* * All we know plus * 100kwh base model * adaptive suspension * new regen mode (track no need to brake on lapping days) * new cooling mode (for many hot laps) **2021** *Model Y launch* * AWD standard * The first car made in a dark factory Model X Major Refresh * following Model S updated architecture (bigger batteries mega charging etc) **2022** *Truck!* * 4 PM motor architecture debut * allows for independent wheel operation great for towing (the feature Elon teased on twitter) * 200 kwh and 400kwh (2170 s will be CHEAP by 2022) * 400 kwh allows for towing of maximum capacity 500 miles+ * Modify track mode regen for towing * Independent wheel drive for towing *[edit] formatting* | fromaboat | 2018-02-18 16:24:50 | 120 | dug5tnj | Would love to see Model Y gigafactory in Ohio. Lots of auto manufacturing support with Honda in Marysville and TRC in East Liberty. Cheap real estate too! | Catfood0525 | 2018-02-18 17:16:45 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf8yh | [Discussion]: TESLA Roadmap 2018-2022 (guesses) | Hi All Super long term lurker finally wanted to get some thoughts down. I wanted to speculate on Tesla s long-term roadmap based on tidbits we know and some educating guessing. After 2018 I won t speculate when they announce just go live. Here is my guess at the 2018-2022 Roadmap for Telsa. **2018** *Roadmap Additions (highly likely)* * Model 3 AWD * Model 3 Performance * Model 3 S X FSD * Model Y Reveal (October: to time with Q3 financial data release) *Key Knowledge points* * new Roadster uses 3 PM motors * 2170 s are a step change in efficiency and charging * Megacharges are coming * Elon stated (model Y after Model 3 truck after Model Y) **2019** *Roadmap Additions* * Gigafactory 3 (home of Model Y) - my guess Ohio * Gigafactory 4 - my guess China * Semi sleeper cab reveal * Semi 500kwh & 800kwh details emerge * Semi will be built at Gigafactory 1 **2020** *Model S Big Refresh* * 3 motor architecture of incoming roadster (2 rear PM 1 front PM motor) * 2170 s * 100kwh + 150kwh + 200kwh (enabling 300 450 600 miles) * First model available to mega chargers (200 miles in 10 minutes or less) * 0-60 (2.1 software limited) *Roadster 2.0* * All we know plus * 100kwh base model * adaptive suspension * new regen mode (track no need to brake on lapping days) * new cooling mode (for many hot laps) **2021** *Model Y launch* * AWD standard * The first car made in a dark factory Model X Major Refresh * following Model S updated architecture (bigger batteries mega charging etc) **2022** *Truck!* * 4 PM motor architecture debut * allows for independent wheel operation great for towing (the feature Elon teased on twitter) * 200 kwh and 400kwh (2170 s will be CHEAP by 2022) * 400 kwh allows for towing of maximum capacity 500 miles+ * Modify track mode regen for towing * Independent wheel drive for towing *[edit] formatting* | fromaboat | 2018-02-18 16:24:50 | 120 | dugh9ba | A few thoughts: I feel like perhaps the scaling volume milestones for the 3 should be part of this roadmap. I m all for having a future-looking discussion but if revisions to the 3 are included I feel like the biggest unmet production challenge for the 3 (the ramp itself) should be factored into that since they have yet to meet it. It stands to reason that if that is not met in a timely manner it has to the potential to push some or many of the rest of the milestones back if not undermine them financially. Also where are the non-vehicle milestones? Powerwall revisions solar roof GF2 milestones advanced manufacturing (machine that builds the machine) goals etc.... | Iambro | 2018-02-18 20:26:19 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf8yh | [Discussion]: TESLA Roadmap 2018-2022 (guesses) | Hi All Super long term lurker finally wanted to get some thoughts down. I wanted to speculate on Tesla s long-term roadmap based on tidbits we know and some educating guessing. After 2018 I won t speculate when they announce just go live. Here is my guess at the 2018-2022 Roadmap for Telsa. **2018** *Roadmap Additions (highly likely)* * Model 3 AWD * Model 3 Performance * Model 3 S X FSD * Model Y Reveal (October: to time with Q3 financial data release) *Key Knowledge points* * new Roadster uses 3 PM motors * 2170 s are a step change in efficiency and charging * Megacharges are coming * Elon stated (model Y after Model 3 truck after Model Y) **2019** *Roadmap Additions* * Gigafactory 3 (home of Model Y) - my guess Ohio * Gigafactory 4 - my guess China * Semi sleeper cab reveal * Semi 500kwh & 800kwh details emerge * Semi will be built at Gigafactory 1 **2020** *Model S Big Refresh* * 3 motor architecture of incoming roadster (2 rear PM 1 front PM motor) * 2170 s * 100kwh + 150kwh + 200kwh (enabling 300 450 600 miles) * First model available to mega chargers (200 miles in 10 minutes or less) * 0-60 (2.1 software limited) *Roadster 2.0* * All we know plus * 100kwh base model * adaptive suspension * new regen mode (track no need to brake on lapping days) * new cooling mode (for many hot laps) **2021** *Model Y launch* * AWD standard * The first car made in a dark factory Model X Major Refresh * following Model S updated architecture (bigger batteries mega charging etc) **2022** *Truck!* * 4 PM motor architecture debut * allows for independent wheel operation great for towing (the feature Elon teased on twitter) * 200 kwh and 400kwh (2170 s will be CHEAP by 2022) * 400 kwh allows for towing of maximum capacity 500 miles+ * Modify track mode regen for towing * Independent wheel drive for towing *[edit] formatting* | fromaboat | 2018-02-18 16:24:50 | 120 | dugt0xu | FSD level 4 is at least 8-10 years away. Not happening this year. | JFreader | 2018-02-19 00:08:53 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7nh7hy | [Discussion]Any one here on lower income getting a model 3? How much do you make? | Just want to know if there are any other lower income like myself debating or going ahead with a model 3. I make 32000 euro a year but have been saving since the reveal. I know its not a good idea but its the only car I want:) | Howyanow10 | 2018-01-01 20:00:52 | 34 | ds20x01 | I make $115k and my wife makes $90k. Model 3 will be a major stretch for us since we have a mortgage and 2 kids and live in the bay area. Back when I was single and made $45k yr out of college I was able to afford a brand new $35k Nissan 350Z but I had no expenses other than rent and food. Its all relative. | red_stripe05 | 2018-01-01 23:35:27 | 40 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7nh7hy | [Discussion]Any one here on lower income getting a model 3? How much do you make? | Just want to know if there are any other lower income like myself debating or going ahead with a model 3. I make 32000 euro a year but have been saving since the reveal. I know its not a good idea but its the only car I want:) | Howyanow10 | 2018-01-01 20:00:52 | 34 | ds1t7rz | I make $50k per year support a family and a stay at home mom and I m a day 1 in-store reservation holder. However I ve been investing since 2005 and my savings (investments) are currently at $500k+ If it wasn t for the cash hoard I d be car poor. And honestly if I wasn t so in to Tesla I d be purchasing a much more reasonably priced car. I will definitely have to withdraw from investments to make my car payments. | 110010010011 | 2018-01-01 20:57:08 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7nh7hy | [Discussion]Any one here on lower income getting a model 3? How much do you make? | Just want to know if there are any other lower income like myself debating or going ahead with a model 3. I make 32000 euro a year but have been saving since the reveal. I know its not a good idea but its the only car I want:) | Howyanow10 | 2018-01-01 20:00:52 | 34 | ds1rnvp | It s much cheaper to discover you can t afford it before you buy it rather than after. Also someone s level of income is irrelevant when it comes to purchasing power. I know a family pulling in $220k who are constantly struggling with money. They re just terrible at managing it. Make a spreadsheet sign up for Mint get a good idea what it ll cost you before you do it. My personal favorite thing to do is start putting the equivalent of your monthly car payment and insurance into a savings account and see how much you have left over. | ch00f | 2018-01-01 20:26:27 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7nh7hy | [Discussion]Any one here on lower income getting a model 3? How much do you make? | Just want to know if there are any other lower income like myself debating or going ahead with a model 3. I make 32000 euro a year but have been saving since the reveal. I know its not a good idea but its the only car I want:) | Howyanow10 | 2018-01-01 20:00:52 | 34 | ds1qn87 | https: www.youtube.com watch?v=QzE76nUSjL8 | CardinalsFanatic | 2018-01-01 20:06:19 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7nh7hy | [Discussion]Any one here on lower income getting a model 3? How much do you make? | Just want to know if there are any other lower income like myself debating or going ahead with a model 3. I make 32000 euro a year but have been saving since the reveal. I know its not a good idea but its the only car I want:) | Howyanow10 | 2018-01-01 20:00:52 | 34 | ds29b8r | I can t speak to your exact situation - I make quite a bit and ~~have~~ had very little in the way of debts or obligations. *However* I can speak to trying to buy my dream car without really being able to afford it. (See my flair.) So take it from me: Don t do it. If you have to stretch to get the car you want you can t afford it yet. If you do it anyway you ll love the car but hate everything else. The debt you re left with after you have to sell it early anyway depends on how good you are at lying to yourself. So take it from someone who s made basically the same mistake: **You can t afford the car and you need to accept that before you hurt yourself.** | tuba_man | 2018-01-02 02:28:26 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7nh7hy | [Discussion]Any one here on lower income getting a model 3? How much do you make? | Just want to know if there are any other lower income like myself debating or going ahead with a model 3. I make 32000 euro a year but have been saving since the reveal. I know its not a good idea but its the only car I want:) | Howyanow10 | 2018-01-01 20:00:52 | 34 | ds1uzm9 | In other posts people have recommended setting aside the monthly payments in a savings account. If you find you re strapped for cash or dipping into the account you might have to reconsider. I would recommend having a 3-6 month financial cushion in savings on top of what you apply towards the down payment. | mn-tech-guy | 2018-01-01 21:32:22 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7nh7hy | [Discussion]Any one here on lower income getting a model 3? How much do you make? | Just want to know if there are any other lower income like myself debating or going ahead with a model 3. I make 32000 euro a year but have been saving since the reveal. I know its not a good idea but its the only car I want:) | Howyanow10 | 2018-01-01 20:00:52 | 34 | ds208y2 | In my own experience never ever buy a base model of any car. You should always try to have at least the medium package. I think that a reasonably specced Model 3 will be 50 to 60 k€s. So IMHO you should not buy that car new. | Alessandr_ | 2018-01-01 23:21:06 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7nh7hy | [Discussion]Any one here on lower income getting a model 3? How much do you make? | Just want to know if there are any other lower income like myself debating or going ahead with a model 3. I make 32000 euro a year but have been saving since the reveal. I know its not a good idea but its the only car I want:) | Howyanow10 | 2018-01-01 20:00:52 | 34 | ds27mig | Trying to decide if you can afford something strictly based on top-line income is worthless. Someone making $200 000 a year with $199 000 a year in expenses can t afford a model 3. You need to look at your free cash flow after expenses. | dubsteponmycat | 2018-01-02 01:55:42 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7nh7hy | [Discussion]Any one here on lower income getting a model 3? How much do you make? | Just want to know if there are any other lower income like myself debating or going ahead with a model 3. I make 32000 euro a year but have been saving since the reveal. I know its not a good idea but its the only car I want:) | Howyanow10 | 2018-01-01 20:00:52 | 34 | ds1r0i3 | How does auto financing work in your country? What are your current rates? What about VAT how much does it add? | Frowawayduh1 | 2018-01-01 20:13:42 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7o6k8t | [Discussion]Are there any Non-Tesla friendly states who got a model 3 Invite to configure? | I live in Iowa (no tesla showrooms or service centers) Current owner 22nd in line (in Minnesota) and still haven t got an invite. It seems like states with service centers showrooms are getting priority over other states who don t allow Tesla to sell vehicles. I rented a car drove for 6 hours and waited in line for 3 hours. I even ended up buying a model S (partially because I knew owners should skip non-owners in model 3 queue). It seems to me like all of that was a waste and I could have just ordered from home. | ilikethefinerthings | 2018-01-04 22:43:30 | 19 | ds76ku5 | You will get your config before others that didn t wait in line in your area. We have no idea how Tesla is giving priority. Remember east coast has earlier time zone as well. Perhaps they are just doing it by time which would make sense. First they gave CA and west coast close to the factory then they go by time which would mean you will get to order yours before mountain time gets to order theirs. Or it could be completely different reason like shipping deals train times etc. There are a lot of people complaining today. Spoiled first world problems. | dieabetic | 2018-01-04 22:55:57 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
afpzw6 | [Discussion]Excessive walk up unlock + gear shift failures | Model 3 Has anyone recently had a lot of the above failures? It seems that after I installed update 2018.50 7e49f8a I need to unlock my phone re-enable bluetooth or auth through the keycard VERY FREQUENTLY. Besides the walk up to the car failures I have had it where If I don t immediately press the brake when getting in I cannot change gears despite my profile loading and everything else working. I have not had any major phone updates (galaxy s9+) that coincide with this problem starting. **EDIT: At the request of u keepitcleanforwork I have rebooted my phone and it fixed the issue. I m no longer having walk up unlock or gear shift issues anymore.** | blame_the_new_guy | 2019-01-14 00:34:55 | 12 | ee0mwcp | No issues like this here. | kingkalukan | 2019-01-14 00:53:29 | 7 | Tesla phone key functionality |
afpzw6 | [Discussion]Excessive walk up unlock + gear shift failures | Model 3 Has anyone recently had a lot of the above failures? It seems that after I installed update 2018.50 7e49f8a I need to unlock my phone re-enable bluetooth or auth through the keycard VERY FREQUENTLY. Besides the walk up to the car failures I have had it where If I don t immediately press the brake when getting in I cannot change gears despite my profile loading and everything else working. I have not had any major phone updates (galaxy s9+) that coincide with this problem starting. **EDIT: At the request of u keepitcleanforwork I have rebooted my phone and it fixed the issue. I m no longer having walk up unlock or gear shift issues anymore.** | blame_the_new_guy | 2019-01-14 00:34:55 | 12 | ee0qnrw | It was fairly flaky on my Pixel XL. I upgraded to a Pixel 3 and I don t think I ve had a single misfire since then. Basically it comes down to your phone s capabilities. If it has enough resources to where it doesn t have to evict the Tesla app in the background you ll be fine. Otherwise it will be sporadically bad. | pobody | 2019-01-14 01:46:55 | 6 | Tesla phone key functionality |
8ynarc | [Discussion]Food for thought - 2000 calories is enough energy for a Long Range Model 3 to travel 8.94 mi (14.39 km) | Additionally... * 2000 Calories a day for 30 days is enough to charge a Long Range Model 3 to 86.5& #37 * 2000 Calories a day for 365 days is enough for a Long Range Model 3 to travel 3 263 mi. (5 251.5 km) * 2000 Calories a day for 7 years 7 months and 16 days is enough for a Long Range Model 3 to circumvent the globe * 2000 Calories a day for 73 years 1 month and 29 days is enough for a Long Range Model 3 to travel to the moon ***Edit:*** *Updated to Calories w a capital C in the text. Damn you Reddit the slug would be the same let me change the damn capitalization in the title.* | GeekLad | 2018-07-13 20:06:01 | 56 | e2c82no | That s Calorie with a capital C | croninsiglos | 2018-07-13 20:15:50 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8ynarc | [Discussion]Food for thought - 2000 calories is enough energy for a Long Range Model 3 to travel 8.94 mi (14.39 km) | Additionally... * 2000 Calories a day for 30 days is enough to charge a Long Range Model 3 to 86.5& #37 * 2000 Calories a day for 365 days is enough for a Long Range Model 3 to travel 3 263 mi. (5 251.5 km) * 2000 Calories a day for 7 years 7 months and 16 days is enough for a Long Range Model 3 to circumvent the globe * 2000 Calories a day for 73 years 1 month and 29 days is enough for a Long Range Model 3 to travel to the moon ***Edit:*** *Updated to Calories w a capital C in the text. Damn you Reddit the slug would be the same let me change the damn capitalization in the title.* | GeekLad | 2018-07-13 20:06:01 | 56 | e2c7onm | An average weight male on a bicycle can go a mile on 34 calories or almost 60 miles on 2 000 calories. | MGreymanN | 2018-07-13 20:10:25 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8ynarc | [Discussion]Food for thought - 2000 calories is enough energy for a Long Range Model 3 to travel 8.94 mi (14.39 km) | Additionally... * 2000 Calories a day for 30 days is enough to charge a Long Range Model 3 to 86.5& #37 * 2000 Calories a day for 365 days is enough for a Long Range Model 3 to travel 3 263 mi. (5 251.5 km) * 2000 Calories a day for 7 years 7 months and 16 days is enough for a Long Range Model 3 to circumvent the globe * 2000 Calories a day for 73 years 1 month and 29 days is enough for a Long Range Model 3 to travel to the moon ***Edit:*** *Updated to Calories w a capital C in the text. Damn you Reddit the slug would be the same let me change the damn capitalization in the title.* | GeekLad | 2018-07-13 20:06:01 | 56 | e2c85gs | Mr. Fusion option incoming - Elon in a few years probably | _vogonpoetry_ | 2018-07-13 20:16:55 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e274czp | It was flawless. That s about it. Doesn t make for a very interesting story unfortunately. Just remember to take the screen plastic off. It s hard to see but will make the screen look worse than it is. | Foxhound199 | 2018-07-11 15:53:23 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e2749m2 | My model 3 was delivered on time in perfect condition. My delivery specialist picked me up from a hertz location. He was very knowledgeable (even though he hadn t delivered very many cause mine was one of the first ones for that location). He let me take my time to inspect every inch of the car and didn t try to rush me at all (even though I was technically late cause I also sold my model S when I was there). He had no problem using my phone to take pictures of me with the car. I had loads of questions and he answered all of them except for ones nobody knew the answer to (like the data plan thing). | ilikethefinerthings | 2018-07-11 15:52:10 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e2741rd | Picked up on 7 7 in Fremont with no issues. | allenmchan | 2018-07-11 15:49:17 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e275rzr | Ironically the best way to get this response is reading thru Linette Lopez s twitter asking for the [exact opposite scenario!](https: twitter.com lopezlinette status 1016408751430164482) | daingandcrumpets | 2018-07-11 16:12:35 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e277hwn | Picked VIN #9371 up March 31 2018 two years to the day after I reserved it. Had to wait an hour or two due to it being so busy in the Fremont delivery center. Maybe also exacerbated by people with spreadsheets that forums post *cough* *cough*. Large warehouse with perhaps 20 bays. Car was in perfect shape and in the 6000 miles since then I have found no paint flaws (except those I and others in parking lots have put there) no gaps no rattles no seal issues. Five minutes to take a pic walk around open everything take an inventory waive the spiel off and drive out. Fun day despite the wait. | jpbeans | 2018-07-11 16:34:59 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e27hp3l | Picked mine up from Charlotte NC. It was ready when I got there sales advisor asked me if I wanted to paperwork first or check out the car. Paperwork took about 2 minutes he gave me a tour of the car for about 10-15 minutes. He then told me I was free to leave or stay and check the car out. I gave it a quick once-over to make sure nothing major was wrong then took off. Hands down the best car buying experience I ve ever had. I ve had the car 2 months and have yet to find anything wrong with it (a couple gaps that aren t perfect but it doesn t bother me at all). As an aside I don t really understand the folks that bring checklists with them... sounds like a great way to ruin the experience IMO. If there is a real problem you ll find it in time and they ll make it right. | FlashFlooder | 2018-07-11 18:47:15 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e2731s0 | If everyone posted their positive experience picking up their 3 then this subreddit would have nothing else. | zyzeast | 2018-07-11 15:35:59 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e276w42 | I had a great experience... that said I knew everything about the car did a ton of reading on the internet read the whole manual watched the videos. I arrived the car was ready and looked great. The delivery specialist said that they re about to do a group intro that would go over the basics and asked if I d like to join. I politely declined as I had the basics covered. Signed a few pieces of paper and I was out of there 15 mins later after I looked over the car. | Eldanon | 2018-07-11 16:27:14 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e277l67 | I took delivery on July 7th in Mt. kisco. Brought my brother who does exotic car detailing for a living to ppi the car for me. We spent 1 hr and 30 mins going over the car very closely including paint depth measuring. They were super friendly and would ve spent even more time with us. There was one small area that we found a possible issue in the paint. They said I could bring it where I wanted and that they would reimburse me for it. The overall panel fitment was very good. The best out of any 3 s they have worked on. VIN is 325XX. | XilFaze | 2018-07-11 16:36:10 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0jsx | [Discussion]How about some good reviews of when you received your Model 3. Just bad and worse reviews of the handover experience lately lets hear about your positive experience! | I ve read a handful of posts about negative experiences picking up the Model 3 but not any positive experiences. Any one out there that got their Model 3 and it had zero flaws and the buying experience was stress free and met your expectations? | Remixmark | 2018-07-11 15:29:31 | 54 | e27aqhg | Picked mine up a month ago and the process went fine. I did bring the checklist and he indicated that he had another appointment scheduled so we only had 30 minutes but I felt had enough time to go over the car sufficiently inside and out (having 2 people with me to also check it out helped a lot) I didn t find any problems with the car on delivery and still haven t had any issues in the first 1000 miles I ve driven it. I was worried about panel gaps & alignment issues and paint quality issues that were being discussed frequently so I was pleasantly surprised that everything seemed perfect at least to my standards. | TheOtherPete | 2018-07-11 17:17:04 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8013l3 | [Discussion]Now that non-owner line-waiters are ordering will we finally find out with the something special is for line-waiters? | I guess Elon could have unveiled the something special when owners were ordering but to me when non-owner line-waiters take delivery seems like the last logical opportunity to find out what the something special is. | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-02-25 01:11:18 | 20 | dusebbe | Eligibility for the tax credit. | darthmiso | 2018-02-25 03:55:51 | 27 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8013l3 | [Discussion]Now that non-owner line-waiters are ordering will we finally find out with the something special is for line-waiters? | I guess Elon could have unveiled the something special when owners were ordering but to me when non-owner line-waiters take delivery seems like the last logical opportunity to find out what the something special is. | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-02-25 01:11:18 | 20 | dus8q3e | It s gonna be a discount the model Y reservation that you can put down in 3 months lol😂🤣! | ICBMFixer | 2018-02-25 01:59:22 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8013l3 | [Discussion]Now that non-owner line-waiters are ordering will we finally find out with the something special is for line-waiters? | I guess Elon could have unveiled the something special when owners were ordering but to me when non-owner line-waiters take delivery seems like the last logical opportunity to find out what the something special is. | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-02-25 01:11:18 | 20 | dus7pf3 | Don t hold your breath. | MoobyTheGoldenCalf | 2018-02-25 01:38:12 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8013l3 | [Discussion]Now that non-owner line-waiters are ordering will we finally find out with the something special is for line-waiters? | I guess Elon could have unveiled the something special when owners were ordering but to me when non-owner line-waiters take delivery seems like the last logical opportunity to find out what the something special is. | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-02-25 01:11:18 | 20 | dusbaq3 | I don t want to spoil it for people who do take their delivery but there is something. 😉 Edit: I deleted where you ll find the something I m actually not going to tell you where it is but there is a little something. Edit 2: Also people who took delivery already should also be getting info on receiving the gift in the coming weeks | AnAngryAlien | 2018-02-25 02:52:57 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8013l3 | [Discussion]Now that non-owner line-waiters are ordering will we finally find out with the something special is for line-waiters? | I guess Elon could have unveiled the something special when owners were ordering but to me when non-owner line-waiters take delivery seems like the last logical opportunity to find out what the something special is. | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-02-25 01:11:18 | 20 | duscazi | i would be ok with a unique colored key card only available to line-waiters | xXx_burgerking69_xXx | 2018-02-25 03:13:52 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8013l3 | [Discussion]Now that non-owner line-waiters are ordering will we finally find out with the something special is for line-waiters? | I guess Elon could have unveiled the something special when owners were ordering but to me when non-owner line-waiters take delivery seems like the last logical opportunity to find out what the something special is. | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-02-25 01:11:18 | 20 | dusaaab | Wasn t this the model 3 concept art that got sent out a loooong time ago? | lonnie123 | 2018-02-25 02:32:27 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8013l3 | [Discussion]Now that non-owner line-waiters are ordering will we finally find out with the something special is for line-waiters? | I guess Elon could have unveiled the something special when owners were ordering but to me when non-owner line-waiters take delivery seems like the last logical opportunity to find out what the something special is. | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-02-25 01:11:18 | 20 | dusfyeg | It s you. You re special. | annnaaan | 2018-02-25 04:32:11 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8013l3 | [Discussion]Now that non-owner line-waiters are ordering will we finally find out with the something special is for line-waiters? | I guess Elon could have unveiled the something special when owners were ordering but to me when non-owner line-waiters take delivery seems like the last logical opportunity to find out what the something special is. | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-02-25 01:11:18 | 20 | dutexc5 | Please be a key fob. | redditmannnnn | 2018-02-25 20:04:45 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8xd9at | [Discussion]Perpendicular Auto Park How to | I ve been experimenting with auto park for perpendicular parking situations and have only had it identify a potential spot once. That spot didn t seem to be any different than all of the other spots I ve tried. There must be some kind of trick that I m not doing ? The spots that aren t being recognized seem to meet all the criteria and I m definitely going the right speed as I approach. Any hints ? I haven t tried parallel yet. | mintakax | 2018-07-09 16:24:43 | 20 | e22g47t | I don t exactly know what you re doing so I ll just give my experience. Maybe you re already doing some of this maybe not. You have to go really slow. 5mph slow. You don t have to go quite as slow for parallel parking. I ve also found sometimes it won t indicate a space until after pass it and stop. It s less Find a space and more I want that space can you do it? . Also remember that it can t see lines only cars. If there s not a one car gap it won t see it. Plus if the currently parked cars are parked funny it ll either park just as funny or won t do it at all. | grant10k | 2018-07-09 16:39:39 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8xd9at | [Discussion]Perpendicular Auto Park How to | I ve been experimenting with auto park for perpendicular parking situations and have only had it identify a potential spot once. That spot didn t seem to be any different than all of the other spots I ve tried. There must be some kind of trick that I m not doing ? The spots that aren t being recognized seem to meet all the criteria and I m definitely going the right speed as I approach. Any hints ? I haven t tried parallel yet. | mintakax | 2018-07-09 16:24:43 | 20 | e23bs0i | 500 miles on our new Model 3 ... my experience with perpendicular parking so far: * In a parking lot of a restaurant early in the morning with only a smattering of cars there: nope can t see any spots. * Backing out of my driveway: it sees the concrete sidewalk path up to my house as a spot and the UI clearly is ready to let me act on that ... | ShittyStartTo2017 | 2018-07-09 23:41:43 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtly41t | Cover it with the blood of the infidel who puked. | run-the-joules | 2018-02-02 03:50:49 | 42 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtlxq50 | I heard the acceleration was good but I didn t think THAT good. | jeifurie | 2018-02-02 03:43:01 | 21 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtm06ks | I think the more pressing question is... where are you going to dispose of the body? | IdeasFromSC | 2018-02-02 04:34:01 | 19 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtm4vmt | If someone vomits in my model 3 the only stain will be their blood as I murder them. So blood I guess. Also I hear your Tesla becomes evil once it has tasted blood that is the real reason for vegan seats. | dreiak559 | 2018-02-02 06:30:43 | 15 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtlt4ee | Isopropyl alcohol. | _ohm_my | 2018-02-02 02:15:56 | 13 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtlssqe | Take it to a detailer | garthreddit | 2018-02-02 02:10:01 | 10 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtmewvq | Off topic slightly but this is why I will never ever participate in ride sharing nor do I want to see a future where private car ownership is too expensive for average people which is where companies like Waymo and Lyft are trying to take us (forcefully via legislation). People are gross and I don t want to share space with them unless I have to. Also a myriad of other reasons why such a future solves nothing and is a monumentally bad idea. Slightly s | Kaelang | 2018-02-02 12:39:43 | 10 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtltd3e | Was it a good story at least? | NoVA_traveler | 2018-02-02 02:20:21 | 6 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtlvhp5 | Fuck that blows. Is it in the rear seats or the front seats? My wife spilled refried beans once in our bmw backseat and if you just wipe what you see it s not enough. I pulled up the rear seat cushion and found all the nasty that slid down between the seatbelt receivers. I was able to clean it completely or that way and no more fart smell. | t0mmyr | 2018-02-02 02:59:20 | 6 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7uo0a5 | [Discussion]Somebody just vomited all over my Model 3. How best can I unstain the leather? | The car only had 51 miles on it too. I was able to painstakingly get the vomit out of the carpets but the leather seems to have been stained by the barf. I don t know if I can use leather wipes considering it s vegan leather. I tried the wipes on the rear seats but they left noticeable streaks. I can t get a detailer for a few weeks either. Can I just continue with the leather wipes? Also the carpet smells intensely like carpet cleaner. | SushiBallZ | 2018-02-02 02:03:00 | 52 | dtm1qkz | Leather? Thought all Tesla s were vegan now? | jaymc5 | 2018-02-02 05:09:56 | 6 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
awbmaj | [Discussion]Superchargers about to get more busy (NYC) | Now that the $35k Model is available do you guys think the superchargers in around NYC are bout to get way more busy? I ve held off buying a Tesla for two reasons 1) cost 2) inability to charge at home work I only have street parking so would have to use a Supercharger about 2-3x month. I ve seen how superchargers can get crowded and idiots fight over slots. So how bad do you think wait time at superchargers will be w in the next year? | hypoch0ndriacs | 2019-03-02 00:13:33 | 11 | ehldsx3 | Nobody knows. Hopefully there are plans to build more. | SparkySpecter | 2019-03-02 00:16:38 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
awbmaj | [Discussion]Superchargers about to get more busy (NYC) | Now that the $35k Model is available do you guys think the superchargers in around NYC are bout to get way more busy? I ve held off buying a Tesla for two reasons 1) cost 2) inability to charge at home work I only have street parking so would have to use a Supercharger about 2-3x month. I ve seen how superchargers can get crowded and idiots fight over slots. So how bad do you think wait time at superchargers will be w in the next year? | hypoch0ndriacs | 2019-03-02 00:13:33 | 11 | ehlixle | More busy = busier | RyanFielding | 2019-03-02 01:28:08 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8pykdn | [Discussion]Tesla using the lot of a vacant business park in Fremont for storage what s with the hazards though? | Excited to see they were storing a bunch of 3s here last week. There were a few vehicles with hazards on I was wondering if those were ones they were picking for delivery. Drove by last night to this any ideas why? https: reddit.com link 8pykdn video iyctt4f5r3311 player | jackholery | 2018-06-10 04:34:08 | 14 | e0f5f54 | OTA software update maybe? Or OTA systems check? | OptimisticViolence | 2018-06-10 05:55:10 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7yf5z5 | [Discussion]What are some good Tesla road trip Youtube vlogs? | really enjoyed watching Ashley Renne s road trip vlog in her Tesla. Any other road trip type vlogs worth watching for Teslas? trying to convince the fiance on a Model X. | WindyFury | 2018-02-18 16:12:10 | 12 | dug506d | Like Tesla 👍 | Dmaq1024 | 2018-02-18 17:04:39 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7tp0w8 | [Discussion]What is your prediction for Model 3 sales in January? | Like many people I have been closely following Model 3 production. In my previous posts I made a couple of points: (1)Obviously production hasn t ramped up nearly as fast as was envisioned in the most optimistic plans (2) Still it HAS ramped up faster than Model S and Model X so in a certain sense it s going about as well as we would REALISTICALLY expect. See [chart](https: i.imgur.com O0yw4DN.png) and [table](https: i.imgur.com g8lbuOH.png) With all that being said next week Inside EVs will release their January sales numbers. We ve been getting so much contradictory information from Tesla and from the media about how Model 3 production is going. I thought it would be fun to try to predict what the January 2018 US Sales for Model 3 will be (at least according to Inside EVs). **NOTE:** I am well aware that Inside EVs monthly sales numbers are **not official** they are just **estimates** and get updated when official quarterly numbers are released but they seem pretty reliable and are the best data we have. MY PREDICTION: December 2017 sales were 1 060 and the current weekly rate is **SUPPOSEDLY** 1 000 cars a week. So I feel pretty safe in predicting **AT LEAST** 2 000 Model 3s will be delivered in January 2018. On the other hand based on past experience I am going to say that the monthly sales will be **AT MOST** 4 000. If I have to pick one number I will take the average and go with **3 000**. I will be surprised if it s less than 2 000 and shocked if it s more than 4 000. What does everyone else think? Let s see who gets the closest! Inside EVs will post their numbers here by Friday February 2: https: insideevs.com monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard | rweba | 2018-01-29 02:06:22 | 33 | dte88hh | I ll go with whatever u teslike says that dude seems pretty smart. | needaname1234 | 2018-01-29 03:10:58 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7tp0w8 | [Discussion]What is your prediction for Model 3 sales in January? | Like many people I have been closely following Model 3 production. In my previous posts I made a couple of points: (1)Obviously production hasn t ramped up nearly as fast as was envisioned in the most optimistic plans (2) Still it HAS ramped up faster than Model S and Model X so in a certain sense it s going about as well as we would REALISTICALLY expect. See [chart](https: i.imgur.com O0yw4DN.png) and [table](https: i.imgur.com g8lbuOH.png) With all that being said next week Inside EVs will release their January sales numbers. We ve been getting so much contradictory information from Tesla and from the media about how Model 3 production is going. I thought it would be fun to try to predict what the January 2018 US Sales for Model 3 will be (at least according to Inside EVs). **NOTE:** I am well aware that Inside EVs monthly sales numbers are **not official** they are just **estimates** and get updated when official quarterly numbers are released but they seem pretty reliable and are the best data we have. MY PREDICTION: December 2017 sales were 1 060 and the current weekly rate is **SUPPOSEDLY** 1 000 cars a week. So I feel pretty safe in predicting **AT LEAST** 2 000 Model 3s will be delivered in January 2018. On the other hand based on past experience I am going to say that the monthly sales will be **AT MOST** 4 000. If I have to pick one number I will take the average and go with **3 000**. I will be surprised if it s less than 2 000 and shocked if it s more than 4 000. What does everyone else think? Let s see who gets the closest! Inside EVs will post their numbers here by Friday February 2: https: insideevs.com monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard | rweba | 2018-01-29 02:06:22 | 33 | dte6orn | Not enough. | PM_ME_UR_DECOLLETAGE | 2018-01-29 02:40:29 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7tp0w8 | [Discussion]What is your prediction for Model 3 sales in January? | Like many people I have been closely following Model 3 production. In my previous posts I made a couple of points: (1)Obviously production hasn t ramped up nearly as fast as was envisioned in the most optimistic plans (2) Still it HAS ramped up faster than Model S and Model X so in a certain sense it s going about as well as we would REALISTICALLY expect. See [chart](https: i.imgur.com O0yw4DN.png) and [table](https: i.imgur.com g8lbuOH.png) With all that being said next week Inside EVs will release their January sales numbers. We ve been getting so much contradictory information from Tesla and from the media about how Model 3 production is going. I thought it would be fun to try to predict what the January 2018 US Sales for Model 3 will be (at least according to Inside EVs). **NOTE:** I am well aware that Inside EVs monthly sales numbers are **not official** they are just **estimates** and get updated when official quarterly numbers are released but they seem pretty reliable and are the best data we have. MY PREDICTION: December 2017 sales were 1 060 and the current weekly rate is **SUPPOSEDLY** 1 000 cars a week. So I feel pretty safe in predicting **AT LEAST** 2 000 Model 3s will be delivered in January 2018. On the other hand based on past experience I am going to say that the monthly sales will be **AT MOST** 4 000. If I have to pick one number I will take the average and go with **3 000**. I will be surprised if it s less than 2 000 and shocked if it s more than 4 000. What does everyone else think? Let s see who gets the closest! Inside EVs will post their numbers here by Friday February 2: https: insideevs.com monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard | rweba | 2018-01-29 02:06:22 | 33 | dte81v6 | 4000 maybe 2000 definately | mwwalk | 2018-01-29 03:07:28 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7tp0w8 | [Discussion]What is your prediction for Model 3 sales in January? | Like many people I have been closely following Model 3 production. In my previous posts I made a couple of points: (1)Obviously production hasn t ramped up nearly as fast as was envisioned in the most optimistic plans (2) Still it HAS ramped up faster than Model S and Model X so in a certain sense it s going about as well as we would REALISTICALLY expect. See [chart](https: i.imgur.com O0yw4DN.png) and [table](https: i.imgur.com g8lbuOH.png) With all that being said next week Inside EVs will release their January sales numbers. We ve been getting so much contradictory information from Tesla and from the media about how Model 3 production is going. I thought it would be fun to try to predict what the January 2018 US Sales for Model 3 will be (at least according to Inside EVs). **NOTE:** I am well aware that Inside EVs monthly sales numbers are **not official** they are just **estimates** and get updated when official quarterly numbers are released but they seem pretty reliable and are the best data we have. MY PREDICTION: December 2017 sales were 1 060 and the current weekly rate is **SUPPOSEDLY** 1 000 cars a week. So I feel pretty safe in predicting **AT LEAST** 2 000 Model 3s will be delivered in January 2018. On the other hand based on past experience I am going to say that the monthly sales will be **AT MOST** 4 000. If I have to pick one number I will take the average and go with **3 000**. I will be surprised if it s less than 2 000 and shocked if it s more than 4 000. What does everyone else think? Let s see who gets the closest! Inside EVs will post their numbers here by Friday February 2: https: insideevs.com monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard | rweba | 2018-01-29 02:06:22 | 33 | dte82u8 | 2800 | dubsteponmycat | 2018-01-29 03:07:58 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7tp0w8 | [Discussion]What is your prediction for Model 3 sales in January? | Like many people I have been closely following Model 3 production. In my previous posts I made a couple of points: (1)Obviously production hasn t ramped up nearly as fast as was envisioned in the most optimistic plans (2) Still it HAS ramped up faster than Model S and Model X so in a certain sense it s going about as well as we would REALISTICALLY expect. See [chart](https: i.imgur.com O0yw4DN.png) and [table](https: i.imgur.com g8lbuOH.png) With all that being said next week Inside EVs will release their January sales numbers. We ve been getting so much contradictory information from Tesla and from the media about how Model 3 production is going. I thought it would be fun to try to predict what the January 2018 US Sales for Model 3 will be (at least according to Inside EVs). **NOTE:** I am well aware that Inside EVs monthly sales numbers are **not official** they are just **estimates** and get updated when official quarterly numbers are released but they seem pretty reliable and are the best data we have. MY PREDICTION: December 2017 sales were 1 060 and the current weekly rate is **SUPPOSEDLY** 1 000 cars a week. So I feel pretty safe in predicting **AT LEAST** 2 000 Model 3s will be delivered in January 2018. On the other hand based on past experience I am going to say that the monthly sales will be **AT MOST** 4 000. If I have to pick one number I will take the average and go with **3 000**. I will be surprised if it s less than 2 000 and shocked if it s more than 4 000. What does everyone else think? Let s see who gets the closest! Inside EVs will post their numbers here by Friday February 2: https: insideevs.com monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard | rweba | 2018-01-29 02:06:22 | 33 | dtefu09 | > MY PREDICTION: December 2017 sales were 1 060 and the current weekly rate is SUPPOSEDLY 1 000 cars a week. Tesla said parts of the line of extrapolated could be at 1 000 per week by end of December. *Note* not THE line but parts of it. | Strood | 2018-01-29 06:04:57 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7o03ap | [Discussion]When will the Model 3 Standard Range enter production? | My configurator currently says Model 3 Standard Range (SR) will be available Early 2018 which in my mind means sometime before April--I am skeptical of this. With the slower than anticipated ramp of the Model 3 I think Tesla could continue to make only the Long Range (LR) version of the Model 3 through Q1 and maybe Q2 for a few reasons: -It simplifies manufacturing since it is the current model they are producing -The demand is there even if they want to limit deliveries to just CA West Coast -Higher margins on the LR version However I could also see Tesla maybe making SR versions soon for a few reasons: -To fulfill their promise of the $35 000 Model 3 (assuming a base model will be available initially) -If battery production is a bottleneck there would be less cells per car on the SR version allowing them to maybe produce more total cars -To not piss off people waiting for the SR that might receive their cars after people way behind them in line getting the LR When do you think Model 3 Standard Range will enter production? | CheeseJam | 2018-01-04 03:08:49 | 35 | ds5upae | I would argue it s best to take a conservative approach and say it will be summer or even fall. 1) Slower than expected ramp to date means it takes longer to fulfill LR orders. 2) Not all bottlenecks on the assembly line will be found until the line is running at its specced 5 000 units week. That is to say by extending the ramp to 5 000 units until the end of Q2 Tesla is acknowledging they still have bottlenecks to overcome. 3) Unless they run out of LR orders before getting the line fully ramped (which I consider unlikely) it s foolish to add additional complexity in the form of different battery packs and option packages. 4) From a business standpoint it makes sense to sell as many of the higher profit LR units as possible. 5) When they do ultimately get to the point where supply is high enough that they re meeting LR demand and have excess capacity to work on SR there will be some production slowdowns involved in getting the line working with multiple battery packs. I know it sounds pessimistic and hopefully I m proven wrong but that s what I would build my expectations on. | thehikingbadger | 2018-01-04 03:46:13 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7o03ap | [Discussion]When will the Model 3 Standard Range enter production? | My configurator currently says Model 3 Standard Range (SR) will be available Early 2018 which in my mind means sometime before April--I am skeptical of this. With the slower than anticipated ramp of the Model 3 I think Tesla could continue to make only the Long Range (LR) version of the Model 3 through Q1 and maybe Q2 for a few reasons: -It simplifies manufacturing since it is the current model they are producing -The demand is there even if they want to limit deliveries to just CA West Coast -Higher margins on the LR version However I could also see Tesla maybe making SR versions soon for a few reasons: -To fulfill their promise of the $35 000 Model 3 (assuming a base model will be available initially) -If battery production is a bottleneck there would be less cells per car on the SR version allowing them to maybe produce more total cars -To not piss off people waiting for the SR that might receive their cars after people way behind them in line getting the LR When do you think Model 3 Standard Range will enter production? | CheeseJam | 2018-01-04 03:08:49 | 35 | ds5v48v | Maybe 3 months 6 months definitely. | putittogetherNOW | 2018-01-04 03:55:00 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7o03ap | [Discussion]When will the Model 3 Standard Range enter production? | My configurator currently says Model 3 Standard Range (SR) will be available Early 2018 which in my mind means sometime before April--I am skeptical of this. With the slower than anticipated ramp of the Model 3 I think Tesla could continue to make only the Long Range (LR) version of the Model 3 through Q1 and maybe Q2 for a few reasons: -It simplifies manufacturing since it is the current model they are producing -The demand is there even if they want to limit deliveries to just CA West Coast -Higher margins on the LR version However I could also see Tesla maybe making SR versions soon for a few reasons: -To fulfill their promise of the $35 000 Model 3 (assuming a base model will be available initially) -If battery production is a bottleneck there would be less cells per car on the SR version allowing them to maybe produce more total cars -To not piss off people waiting for the SR that might receive their cars after people way behind them in line getting the LR When do you think Model 3 Standard Range will enter production? | CheeseJam | 2018-01-04 03:08:49 | 35 | ds5vjcd | My optimistic view: Tesla was already planning on “early 2018” for SR production. Since they re about three months behind I m hoping this means 2nd quarter now. My pessimistic view: SR production will start mid year. Which may make me cry man tears. | thebigbobowski | 2018-01-04 04:03:48 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7o03ap | [Discussion]When will the Model 3 Standard Range enter production? | My configurator currently says Model 3 Standard Range (SR) will be available Early 2018 which in my mind means sometime before April--I am skeptical of this. With the slower than anticipated ramp of the Model 3 I think Tesla could continue to make only the Long Range (LR) version of the Model 3 through Q1 and maybe Q2 for a few reasons: -It simplifies manufacturing since it is the current model they are producing -The demand is there even if they want to limit deliveries to just CA West Coast -Higher margins on the LR version However I could also see Tesla maybe making SR versions soon for a few reasons: -To fulfill their promise of the $35 000 Model 3 (assuming a base model will be available initially) -If battery production is a bottleneck there would be less cells per car on the SR version allowing them to maybe produce more total cars -To not piss off people waiting for the SR that might receive their cars after people way behind them in line getting the LR When do you think Model 3 Standard Range will enter production? | CheeseJam | 2018-01-04 03:08:49 | 35 | ds6bwf2 | Super depressing as east coast line waiter who wants standard and full tax credit. :( | teslamodel3fan | 2018-01-04 13:03:50 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7o03ap | [Discussion]When will the Model 3 Standard Range enter production? | My configurator currently says Model 3 Standard Range (SR) will be available Early 2018 which in my mind means sometime before April--I am skeptical of this. With the slower than anticipated ramp of the Model 3 I think Tesla could continue to make only the Long Range (LR) version of the Model 3 through Q1 and maybe Q2 for a few reasons: -It simplifies manufacturing since it is the current model they are producing -The demand is there even if they want to limit deliveries to just CA West Coast -Higher margins on the LR version However I could also see Tesla maybe making SR versions soon for a few reasons: -To fulfill their promise of the $35 000 Model 3 (assuming a base model will be available initially) -If battery production is a bottleneck there would be less cells per car on the SR version allowing them to maybe produce more total cars -To not piss off people waiting for the SR that might receive their cars after people way behind them in line getting the LR When do you think Model 3 Standard Range will enter production? | CheeseJam | 2018-01-04 03:08:49 | 35 | ds6864m | I am guessing that the slowing down of the rampup is related to this - once you are going at 100% capacity you have to be really really confident in your ability to change configurations on the fly. So I am guessing that they ll start experimenting with producing different configurations in Q1. If your system capacity is 2000 cars wk but you re only promising 1000 you can spend the time to fuck up a couple of times with the SR and non-PUP. So I d expect that while the majority of production will be directed at LR PUP for financial reasons (better margins) we ll start seeing SR and non-PUP cars in small numbers during Q1. | ecyrd | 2018-01-04 10:49:12 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
907fjb | [Discussion]blind spot detection- 2018 MS P100D | I ve been trying to pay attention to the main instrument panel display with respect to vehicles in my vicinity. When overtaking cars on either side of me I see that they are displayed in the panel display while in front of me then they disappear from the display I can see them in the side view mirror and then they enter that blind spot region before becoming visible in the rear view mirror. During the blind spot period I see a beam display from either the left or right rear position on the display car . This beam icon does not seem to appear long enough to serve as a warning not to change lanes. In other words it seems as though I could change lanes when no warning was present and still be way too close to a vehicle in an adjacent lane. My previous car (Merc ICE) had a small warning light on each side mirror that seemed to cover a lot more distance than the Tesla s beam icon does. Just curious what others experiences opinions are with this ? | mintakax | 2018-07-19 16:37:14 | 10 | e2ogqjj | Thanks everyone. I still totally love my Tesla but its a little dissapointing to be finding out these kinds of things. I would have thought that Teslas would have the best blind spot detection of any vehicle out there. Here s hoping for a future software fix to ameliorate this. | mintakax | 2018-07-19 18:20:58 | 10 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
907fjb | [Discussion]blind spot detection- 2018 MS P100D | I ve been trying to pay attention to the main instrument panel display with respect to vehicles in my vicinity. When overtaking cars on either side of me I see that they are displayed in the panel display while in front of me then they disappear from the display I can see them in the side view mirror and then they enter that blind spot region before becoming visible in the rear view mirror. During the blind spot period I see a beam display from either the left or right rear position on the display car . This beam icon does not seem to appear long enough to serve as a warning not to change lanes. In other words it seems as though I could change lanes when no warning was present and still be way too close to a vehicle in an adjacent lane. My previous car (Merc ICE) had a small warning light on each side mirror that seemed to cover a lot more distance than the Tesla s beam icon does. Just curious what others experiences opinions are with this ? | mintakax | 2018-07-19 16:37:14 | 10 | e2o9fjv | Tesla s with AP2 hardware have cameras pointing towards the blind spots and the computer power to determine something is there (and the fact that something will be there soon) so I remain hopeful that they will offer some form of blind spot warning. | ThatIsMrDickHead2You | 2018-07-19 16:42:16 | 9 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
907fjb | [Discussion]blind spot detection- 2018 MS P100D | I ve been trying to pay attention to the main instrument panel display with respect to vehicles in my vicinity. When overtaking cars on either side of me I see that they are displayed in the panel display while in front of me then they disappear from the display I can see them in the side view mirror and then they enter that blind spot region before becoming visible in the rear view mirror. During the blind spot period I see a beam display from either the left or right rear position on the display car . This beam icon does not seem to appear long enough to serve as a warning not to change lanes. In other words it seems as though I could change lanes when no warning was present and still be way too close to a vehicle in an adjacent lane. My previous car (Merc ICE) had a small warning light on each side mirror that seemed to cover a lot more distance than the Tesla s beam icon does. Just curious what others experiences opinions are with this ? | mintakax | 2018-07-19 16:37:14 | 10 | e2o9gzw | You actually have two problems: 1. The ultrasonics are less effective at high speeds when you might need them the most. 2. The display interface for them is awful so it s hard to use the information they re gathering to make a safe decision. In theory Tesla will move to camera-based blind spot detection in the future so this isn t a huge deal. In reality check your blind spot with your eyeballs. | majesticjg | 2018-07-19 16:42:49 | 7 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
907fjb | [Discussion]blind spot detection- 2018 MS P100D | I ve been trying to pay attention to the main instrument panel display with respect to vehicles in my vicinity. When overtaking cars on either side of me I see that they are displayed in the panel display while in front of me then they disappear from the display I can see them in the side view mirror and then they enter that blind spot region before becoming visible in the rear view mirror. During the blind spot period I see a beam display from either the left or right rear position on the display car . This beam icon does not seem to appear long enough to serve as a warning not to change lanes. In other words it seems as though I could change lanes when no warning was present and still be way too close to a vehicle in an adjacent lane. My previous car (Merc ICE) had a small warning light on each side mirror that seemed to cover a lot more distance than the Tesla s beam icon does. Just curious what others experiences opinions are with this ? | mintakax | 2018-07-19 16:37:14 | 10 | e2ob5k9 | It s interesting that in the German design studio where they separate into different packages it shows that under comfort package there is an option for blind spot warning. See below. [https: imgur.com a KwnjYVG](https: imgur.com a KwnjYVG)? | middyjamz | 2018-07-19 17:05:28 | 6 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
1t0w4g | [Don t upvote] Quick question. | I can t seem to find any relevant information regarding the investment of buying a Model S. Not investing but how much will it save you over the long run vs. a conventional gas vehicle. I know it varies on how much you drive and under what conditions etc but I can t seem to find ANY information about the comparison. Is there some place you can type in your information about how much you drive etc. and get a cost benefit analysis? | zer05tar | 2013-12-16 18:49:42 | 34 | ce3hkqg | In terms of gas v. Electric savings you can do some easy math to estimate the cost of electricity. I d trust this more than a website calculator. Suppose you get the 60 kWh model. Go to your local electric provider s website or look at your current bill. This should tell you how much you pay per kWh. (Keep in mind that you may have options for cheaper charging at overnight rates depending on your provider). I pay roughly .05 per kWh. That means it costs $3.00 to fill my tank. If fully charged I d get roughly 200 miles depending on driving conditions. So we can ballpark it at 1.5 cents per mile. My old Honda got about 16 mpg. If gas today is $3.215 (today s natl avg according to gasbuddy.com) this gives you a cost per mile of .20 per mile. Then think about miles driven per year. Say you do the standard 12 000 miles. 12 000x.015=$180 per year. 12 000x.20=$2400 per year. This is rough but I think it s better to rough out your own numbers than rely on some hypothetical calculus. | tidderor | 2013-12-17 01:33:52 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
1t0w4g | [Don t upvote] Quick question. | I can t seem to find any relevant information regarding the investment of buying a Model S. Not investing but how much will it save you over the long run vs. a conventional gas vehicle. I know it varies on how much you drive and under what conditions etc but I can t seem to find ANY information about the comparison. Is there some place you can type in your information about how much you drive etc. and get a cost benefit analysis? | zer05tar | 2013-12-16 18:49:42 | 34 | ce3hdjy | If your plan is to save money then buying a Model S is not the vehicle for you. A Honda Fit or something of the sort will save you more money in the long run I don t even think there is a break even point between the 2 cars. But there is no joy in that and that is one reason I own a Model S. | Sseleman | 2013-12-17 01:25:20 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6742hq | [Don t upvote] Will Tesla Panasonic s battery cells ever be for consumer purchase? | They have repeatedly stated that their batteries are the densest and cheapest of the market. I am pretty sure it would be great for everyone if they were sold commercially as in battery packs or single cells. Just an idea. I tried searching but couldn t find anything. Cheers. | Orgrimm2ms | 2017-04-23 19:11:46 | 67 | dgnk23e | I up voted because I m a rebel and you told me not to....... wait... is that what you wanted me to do all along? | JBStroodle | 2017-04-23 20:10:45 | 12 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
6742hq | [Don t upvote] Will Tesla Panasonic s battery cells ever be for consumer purchase? | They have repeatedly stated that their batteries are the densest and cheapest of the market. I am pretty sure it would be great for everyone if they were sold commercially as in battery packs or single cells. Just an idea. I tried searching but couldn t find anything. Cheers. | Orgrimm2ms | 2017-04-23 19:11:46 | 67 | dgnmxqh | Unlikely - you ll be able to get them as surplus cells out of wrecked packs but given the volumes they need for cars and storage it won t be worth their time to sell them to other people. Further there s a huge variety in what best means with lithium cells. Tesla as far as I can tell focuses on energy storage capacity and cycle life but doesn t have a particularly high per-cell power (they sag pretty badly under high currents) - which isn t a problem for the size of packs they run. For smaller packs (like tool packs or small power-dense packs) that s a useless cell - you need something that can put out a lot more amps. A pack I just reviewed has 10C rated discharge cells for a tool (3000mAh 20700s 30A rated discharge). But without knowing more details about the cells and their ratings it s hard to say what they re useful for. And that whole contract thing probably interferes anyway. | Syonyk | 2017-04-23 21:05:54 | 8 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
6742hq | [Don t upvote] Will Tesla Panasonic s battery cells ever be for consumer purchase? | They have repeatedly stated that their batteries are the densest and cheapest of the market. I am pretty sure it would be great for everyone if they were sold commercially as in battery packs or single cells. Just an idea. I tried searching but couldn t find anything. Cheers. | Orgrimm2ms | 2017-04-23 19:11:46 | 67 | dgniemx | The 18650s are forbidden by contract to be sold to other buyers. That may or may not change when Tesla s purchase contract ends. Both companies own the chemistry. Tesla may only require exclusivity with it for a certain length of time or it may be forever unless they agree to sell it. As for any gigafactory product being sold otherwise don t bet on it unless they have extra capacity and then make a simpler or cheaper version for outside sales. | Zorb750 | 2017-04-23 19:38:26 | 6 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
6742hq | [Don t upvote] Will Tesla Panasonic s battery cells ever be for consumer purchase? | They have repeatedly stated that their batteries are the densest and cheapest of the market. I am pretty sure it would be great for everyone if they were sold commercially as in battery packs or single cells. Just an idea. I tried searching but couldn t find anything. Cheers. | Orgrimm2ms | 2017-04-23 19:11:46 | 67 | dgnrsk9 | Don t you tell me what to do! | blfire | 2017-04-23 22:45:24 | 6 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
6742hq | [Don t upvote] Will Tesla Panasonic s battery cells ever be for consumer purchase? | They have repeatedly stated that their batteries are the densest and cheapest of the market. I am pretty sure it would be great for everyone if they were sold commercially as in battery packs or single cells. Just an idea. I tried searching but couldn t find anything. Cheers. | Orgrimm2ms | 2017-04-23 19:11:46 | 67 | dgnp1xb | You can already get Panasonic 18650s from a variety of places [even Amazon.](https: www.amazon.com Panasonic-NCR18650B-3400mAh-Rechargeable-Battery-Green dp B00DHXY72O) They re fairly popular for project EVs since you can get them in large quantities at a decent price and it s easy to set them up in modular packs. | jetshockeyfan | 2017-04-23 21:49:46 | 5 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
2hzv09 | [EV-Related News] GM sold 14 540 Volts in 2014 through Sept. and just 885 Cadillac ELRs | Data from the company s [website](http: media.gm.com media us en gm news.detail.html content Pages news us en 2014 Oct gmsales.html). The deliveries pdf is [here](http: media.gm.com dld content Pages news us en 2014 Oct gmsales _jcr_content rightpar sectioncontainer par download_0 file.res GM-Deliveries-September-2014.pdf). Always fun to keep tabs. Unfortunately Volt sales numbers are down 13.2% from the first nine months of 2013. Kind of a bummer for the electric car industry. | anontipster | 2014-10-01 15:04:32 | 12 | ckxiljd | Volt sales are down because the car is stale. Even people who like the car are waiting for the next version. Same with the Prius Gen3. Both are ready for an update. Of course the Volt was ready for an update the moment it came out but that is another thing altogether. :) | cryptoanarchy | 2014-10-01 15:38:40 | 6 | Tesla Challenges in Germany |
2hzv09 | [EV-Related News] GM sold 14 540 Volts in 2014 through Sept. and just 885 Cadillac ELRs | Data from the company s [website](http: media.gm.com media us en gm news.detail.html content Pages news us en 2014 Oct gmsales.html). The deliveries pdf is [here](http: media.gm.com dld content Pages news us en 2014 Oct gmsales _jcr_content rightpar sectioncontainer par download_0 file.res GM-Deliveries-September-2014.pdf). Always fun to keep tabs. Unfortunately Volt sales numbers are down 13.2% from the first nine months of 2013. Kind of a bummer for the electric car industry. | anontipster | 2014-10-01 15:04:32 | 12 | ckxi26c | This is only around 20 000 for the entire year if you project the numbers through December. Tesla on the other hand expects around 35 000 deliveries. Granted Tesla s numbers are worldwide and GM s are US but I guess I didn t realize the Model S was possibly outselling the Volt. | jonjiv | 2014-10-01 15:21:36 | 5 | Tesla Challenges in Germany |
26mrm4 | [Engineering Question] How does vehicle range scale with battery energy density? | All else being equal if you double the energy density of your battery pack you can make the pack half the mass for the same range. Except now that you have cut down your mass by ~280kg (in the case of the Model S) you ll get more range for each joule in the pack. So mileage improves superlinearly with a linear improvement in battery energy density. Anyone know *how* superlinearly? I imagine JB Straubel does but I can t find any publicly available figures on the subject. | OneDegree | 2014-05-27 19:46:08 | 12 | chsil8r | The EPA estimates that for every 100 pounds taken out of a vehicle the fuel economy is increased by 1-2 percent. So reducing 280 kg of weight would increase efficiency in an ICE by around 6-12 percent. I ve got to assume that similar efficiencies would show up with an electric powered car. With the P85 s 265 mile base range you d add 16-32 miles. | purdueaaron | 2014-05-27 20:41:36 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
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