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96fj87 | [Discussion] Tesla Parking Aid Systems: why are they so basic compared to some of the other manufacturers? | Hello everyone I am a recent Model X owner and so far I m loving the car. Having switched a Range Rover to a Model X you really appreciate how amazing Teslas are in terms of ride quality speed manoeuvring and general convenience EXCEPT for the parking cameras. I am sure others who live in London will vouch for me when I say parking in London specially for a big car like the Model X is not very easy! Parking spaces are usually not always available and when they are they can be very tight. Even if you have a nice and big space you still want to make sure you ve parked inside the lines because most councils are notorious in giving parking fines when you ever so slightly park over the lines... So here is my question... Why would a Tesla Model X a big expensive and very technologically advanced car with LOTS of cameras and sensors and radars and what not only give you access the most basic rear view parking camera? I mean I had that on my Audi A1... If you look around you ll see other car manufacturers really pushing ahead with the parking aid: The new Phantom probably has the most ridiculous advanced one I have seen: [https: youtu.be TBIkJSpqcFs?t=169](https: youtu.be TBIkJSpqcFs?t=169) You could say Sure that s a £500k Phantom but then BMW have also done it on their M760i series and I m sure we ll see it on most of their other models soon too: [https: youtu.be fg5S3cFwzKI?t=330](https: youtu.be fg5S3cFwzKI?t=330) Even my Range Rover could do a 360 view and let you see front back and sides... tl dr If you re giving me a big and fairly expensive super modern car why would you only give me the most basic parking aid systems when the car clearly has the capability to show me more! | Ro-ftw | 2018-08-11 10:05:32 | 61 | e4072zs | Screw the Phantom or **bimmer** a 2013 Nissan Leaf has a 360° camera! I m only familiar with that year group could be older than that. | Packerfan735 | 2018-08-11 12:47:32 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
96fj87 | [Discussion] Tesla Parking Aid Systems: why are they so basic compared to some of the other manufacturers? | Hello everyone I am a recent Model X owner and so far I m loving the car. Having switched a Range Rover to a Model X you really appreciate how amazing Teslas are in terms of ride quality speed manoeuvring and general convenience EXCEPT for the parking cameras. I am sure others who live in London will vouch for me when I say parking in London specially for a big car like the Model X is not very easy! Parking spaces are usually not always available and when they are they can be very tight. Even if you have a nice and big space you still want to make sure you ve parked inside the lines because most councils are notorious in giving parking fines when you ever so slightly park over the lines... So here is my question... Why would a Tesla Model X a big expensive and very technologically advanced car with LOTS of cameras and sensors and radars and what not only give you access the most basic rear view parking camera? I mean I had that on my Audi A1... If you look around you ll see other car manufacturers really pushing ahead with the parking aid: The new Phantom probably has the most ridiculous advanced one I have seen: [https: youtu.be TBIkJSpqcFs?t=169](https: youtu.be TBIkJSpqcFs?t=169) You could say Sure that s a £500k Phantom but then BMW have also done it on their M760i series and I m sure we ll see it on most of their other models soon too: [https: youtu.be fg5S3cFwzKI?t=330](https: youtu.be fg5S3cFwzKI?t=330) Even my Range Rover could do a 360 view and let you see front back and sides... tl dr If you re giving me a big and fairly expensive super modern car why would you only give me the most basic parking aid systems when the car clearly has the capability to show me more! | Ro-ftw | 2018-08-11 10:05:32 | 61 | e402zv6 | > You could say Sure that s a £500k Phantom but then BMW have also done it on their M760i series Well this system was first showcased in a 5-series which is a similar size to slightly smaller than Model S. New 3 series will no doubt have it as well. Has Mini started using it as well? I think there are two reasons why Tesla doesn t do the birds-eye camera view. 1. Cameras: They don t have a camera on the nose of the car. The camera in the windscreen would have a blindspot in front of the bumper. The B-pillar camera from what I ve seen doesn t look down it s looking out to the sides for checking junctions. Fender cameras look behind not down. So **while these individual camera views could be put together in some useful way** it wouldn t be a birds-eye 360 view looking at the area directly around the car. 2. Patents. If I m not mistaken Nissan has a patent on the birds-eye parking camera since they were the ones who introduced it. I think it was a concept car called the Pivo where I had first seen it. Tesla probably doesn t want to pay for that. Edit: emphasising that I do think Tesla could give the user access to the cameras anyway even if it s not 360. Fender cam in particular would be useful while parking. | afishinacloud | 2018-08-11 10:43:48 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
96fj87 | [Discussion] Tesla Parking Aid Systems: why are they so basic compared to some of the other manufacturers? | Hello everyone I am a recent Model X owner and so far I m loving the car. Having switched a Range Rover to a Model X you really appreciate how amazing Teslas are in terms of ride quality speed manoeuvring and general convenience EXCEPT for the parking cameras. I am sure others who live in London will vouch for me when I say parking in London specially for a big car like the Model X is not very easy! Parking spaces are usually not always available and when they are they can be very tight. Even if you have a nice and big space you still want to make sure you ve parked inside the lines because most councils are notorious in giving parking fines when you ever so slightly park over the lines... So here is my question... Why would a Tesla Model X a big expensive and very technologically advanced car with LOTS of cameras and sensors and radars and what not only give you access the most basic rear view parking camera? I mean I had that on my Audi A1... If you look around you ll see other car manufacturers really pushing ahead with the parking aid: The new Phantom probably has the most ridiculous advanced one I have seen: [https: youtu.be TBIkJSpqcFs?t=169](https: youtu.be TBIkJSpqcFs?t=169) You could say Sure that s a £500k Phantom but then BMW have also done it on their M760i series and I m sure we ll see it on most of their other models soon too: [https: youtu.be fg5S3cFwzKI?t=330](https: youtu.be fg5S3cFwzKI?t=330) Even my Range Rover could do a 360 view and let you see front back and sides... tl dr If you re giving me a big and fairly expensive super modern car why would you only give me the most basic parking aid systems when the car clearly has the capability to show me more! | Ro-ftw | 2018-08-11 10:05:32 | 61 | e40u8yb | Yea this bugs me too. Hopefully they ll be able to add a top down view (however limited) in the future. Also their blind spot monitoring sucks. My Mazda 6 would beep if I used my blinker and there was a car in my blind spot. The 3 doesn t do that. WTF? | ShareHappyness | 2018-08-11 19:47:19 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ajq9jb | [Discussion] Tesla Service Experience | Had to bring in my new Model S to the Tesla service center because driver side window was not working. & #x200B The entire experience was FANTASTIC. Scheduling through the app was simple and there was plenty of availability. They offered a loaner car (Model S P90D) which was very fun to drive. Texted me updates and when I can pick up my car. Total cost was $0. Everyone at the service center was friendly and professional. & #x200B I have read a decent amount of posts claiming there are service center issues with Telsa. This was not my experience. Thank you to the hard working team at Telsa. Any other great experiences this community should know about? | luckybuck42 | 2019-01-25 15:44:36 | 16 | eey7se7 | The bar is incredibly low for Tesla service and it shouldn t be. | higgs_boson_2017 | 2019-01-25 18:35:58 | 9 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
ajq9jb | [Discussion] Tesla Service Experience | Had to bring in my new Model S to the Tesla service center because driver side window was not working. & #x200B The entire experience was FANTASTIC. Scheduling through the app was simple and there was plenty of availability. They offered a loaner car (Model S P90D) which was very fun to drive. Texted me updates and when I can pick up my car. Total cost was $0. Everyone at the service center was friendly and professional. & #x200B I have read a decent amount of posts claiming there are service center issues with Telsa. This was not my experience. Thank you to the hard working team at Telsa. Any other great experiences this community should know about? | luckybuck42 | 2019-01-25 15:44:36 | 16 | eext6em | Should we have a tracker for terrible service center experiences? Why do some service centers work fantastically and other can t do anything correctly? In my experience the closest service center to me Montreal is unable to get anything right. No answers to e-mails miscommunications on appointment times wasted trips etc. while I had very good experiences with the North York service center in Toronto over the phone shipping parts and scheduling mobile service. | iiixii | 2019-01-25 16:21:05 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
avlizb | [Discussion] Tesla Service wants to charge me $175 to diagnose rattles wind noise and repairs are out of warranty | I m taking my Model 3 to a Tesla Service center this weekend to fix some rattles and road noise (issues listed below if anybody cares). Some of these I noticed months ago but I didn t want to hassle with taking my car in and losing it for at least a few days to get them fixed (plus I was busy with work). Also didn t want to inevitably get an ICE loaner. Good news is that I booked an appointment using the Tesla app and it was super easy and let me describe my issues in the service request. Bad news is that a Tesla Service rep called me today to let me know that Tesla charges $175 to diagnose issues like rattles and road wind noise but the charge is waved if Tesla determines that the issue was caused by a manufacturer s defect. She wasn t sure if the charge was per issue or per visit. She also mentioned that repairs for rattles and road wind noise are not covered under warranty. In my opinion a $175 charge to diagnose a rattle on a car that s only 6 months old is totally unreasonable. As for the warranty why should I have to pay to fix something that wasn t my fault? Unless I went off-roading in my Model 3 which I didn t a $60K car shouldn t rattle (at least not so soon). Plus it s in Tesla s interest to get these issues fixed - every time somebody gets in my car they notice it s a Tesla and that it rattles and has wind noise. To be fair I think there is a chance that Tesla Service was getting swamped with people bringing in their cars for non-essential fixes so they re trying to limit visits to those with significant repair requirements. I also think there is a chance that they ll be reasonable and not charge me for the diagnosis as long as I can replicate at least one issue (i.e. I don t waste their time with something frivolous). Am I being unreasonable here? Anybody else have this issue? Am I going to have to pay out of pocket for rattle repairs? 1 - Driver seat motor clicks pops when moving from my driving position to Easy Entry. 2 - Front passenger window generates excessive wind noise. Most passengers comment that they think the window is cracked opened and the driver side does not make the same noise. 3 - Bottom of the front passenger door creaks consistently and loudly. 4 - Passenger side of the dashboard creaks consistently especially if it s chilly out (lower than 50 F). | kittyburritoeater | 2019-02-28 02:04:08 | 47 | ehg4bae | I think it is one of those we reserve to charge you if your an idiot. Or in other words make sure your rattle isn t something of yours rolling around in the center console. Your things seem reasonable. | Ihaveamodel3 | 2019-02-28 02:51:52 | 34 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
avlizb | [Discussion] Tesla Service wants to charge me $175 to diagnose rattles wind noise and repairs are out of warranty | I m taking my Model 3 to a Tesla Service center this weekend to fix some rattles and road noise (issues listed below if anybody cares). Some of these I noticed months ago but I didn t want to hassle with taking my car in and losing it for at least a few days to get them fixed (plus I was busy with work). Also didn t want to inevitably get an ICE loaner. Good news is that I booked an appointment using the Tesla app and it was super easy and let me describe my issues in the service request. Bad news is that a Tesla Service rep called me today to let me know that Tesla charges $175 to diagnose issues like rattles and road wind noise but the charge is waved if Tesla determines that the issue was caused by a manufacturer s defect. She wasn t sure if the charge was per issue or per visit. She also mentioned that repairs for rattles and road wind noise are not covered under warranty. In my opinion a $175 charge to diagnose a rattle on a car that s only 6 months old is totally unreasonable. As for the warranty why should I have to pay to fix something that wasn t my fault? Unless I went off-roading in my Model 3 which I didn t a $60K car shouldn t rattle (at least not so soon). Plus it s in Tesla s interest to get these issues fixed - every time somebody gets in my car they notice it s a Tesla and that it rattles and has wind noise. To be fair I think there is a chance that Tesla Service was getting swamped with people bringing in their cars for non-essential fixes so they re trying to limit visits to those with significant repair requirements. I also think there is a chance that they ll be reasonable and not charge me for the diagnosis as long as I can replicate at least one issue (i.e. I don t waste their time with something frivolous). Am I being unreasonable here? Anybody else have this issue? Am I going to have to pay out of pocket for rattle repairs? 1 - Driver seat motor clicks pops when moving from my driving position to Easy Entry. 2 - Front passenger window generates excessive wind noise. Most passengers comment that they think the window is cracked opened and the driver side does not make the same noise. 3 - Bottom of the front passenger door creaks consistently and loudly. 4 - Passenger side of the dashboard creaks consistently especially if it s chilly out (lower than 50 F). | kittyburritoeater | 2019-02-28 02:04:08 | 47 | ehg49rq | You should just schedule service for a real warranty item and when you drop off ask them to check the rattles you listed | t0mmyr | 2019-02-28 02:51:17 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
avlizb | [Discussion] Tesla Service wants to charge me $175 to diagnose rattles wind noise and repairs are out of warranty | I m taking my Model 3 to a Tesla Service center this weekend to fix some rattles and road noise (issues listed below if anybody cares). Some of these I noticed months ago but I didn t want to hassle with taking my car in and losing it for at least a few days to get them fixed (plus I was busy with work). Also didn t want to inevitably get an ICE loaner. Good news is that I booked an appointment using the Tesla app and it was super easy and let me describe my issues in the service request. Bad news is that a Tesla Service rep called me today to let me know that Tesla charges $175 to diagnose issues like rattles and road wind noise but the charge is waved if Tesla determines that the issue was caused by a manufacturer s defect. She wasn t sure if the charge was per issue or per visit. She also mentioned that repairs for rattles and road wind noise are not covered under warranty. In my opinion a $175 charge to diagnose a rattle on a car that s only 6 months old is totally unreasonable. As for the warranty why should I have to pay to fix something that wasn t my fault? Unless I went off-roading in my Model 3 which I didn t a $60K car shouldn t rattle (at least not so soon). Plus it s in Tesla s interest to get these issues fixed - every time somebody gets in my car they notice it s a Tesla and that it rattles and has wind noise. To be fair I think there is a chance that Tesla Service was getting swamped with people bringing in their cars for non-essential fixes so they re trying to limit visits to those with significant repair requirements. I also think there is a chance that they ll be reasonable and not charge me for the diagnosis as long as I can replicate at least one issue (i.e. I don t waste their time with something frivolous). Am I being unreasonable here? Anybody else have this issue? Am I going to have to pay out of pocket for rattle repairs? 1 - Driver seat motor clicks pops when moving from my driving position to Easy Entry. 2 - Front passenger window generates excessive wind noise. Most passengers comment that they think the window is cracked opened and the driver side does not make the same noise. 3 - Bottom of the front passenger door creaks consistently and loudly. 4 - Passenger side of the dashboard creaks consistently especially if it s chilly out (lower than 50 F). | kittyburritoeater | 2019-02-28 02:04:08 | 47 | ehg1sbv | I m hearing some creaking from the rear drivers side whenever I hit any small bump. Been thinking of getting it looked at but now concerned about this. This is a Model 3 August 2018 build. Never heard it before the extremely cold weather in Ohio. Perhaps the rubber silicon whatever around the windows were affected by the cold weather? | svarney99 | 2019-02-28 02:18:13 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7kjngd | [Discussion] Tesla Sightings & Vanity Posts | In my opinion the number of model 3 sighting threads is getting really ridiculous and clogging up the front page of r teslamotors. Not to mention the vanity posts about people who have ordered a car or other vanity posts like I had a Tesla birthday cake . Currently (4 hours ago) the top post in r teslamotors is someone posting the plate for the car they have ordered. Can that post generate some actual fruitful discussion? I m very dubious. My suggestion is that the mods rule these kinds of threads as superfluous and rule that all sightings of nothing atypical be pushed into one post perhaps the weekly experience threads. Currently no-one really does this and just posts their own new post. Often the front page of r teslamotors is > 50% about a model 3 seen in the wild or the order they just placed. R teslamotors is a great place for discussion and when it s clogged up of these kinds of posts it loses it s value significantly. Good interesting discussions disappear and they lose depth and focus as people don t often go beyond the front page. Current Top 25 Posts on r teslamotors (4 hours ago) and I m paraphrasing the contents: * **Look at my plate** * **I detailed my Model X** * **I saw 4 red Model 3 s today** * **Another Model 3 was delivered** * Tesla Model S model added to GTA * **I saw a Model 3 in Chicago** * Cars clogging up a supercharger * New Tesla Service Center picture * Jeremy Clarkson comments about self-driving * **I m getting my Model 3 in a month** * A Model S was modded into a wagon * Model 3 config access first report. * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I saw a Model 3** * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I had a Tesla birthday cake** * Model X on top of a restaurant * Model S changes over 2 years * **Saw some Model 3 s at the Fremont carpark** * **Got my Model X today** * Supercharger nearly online * **Saw a Model X taxi** * Discussion on a revamped Model S s battery * **Got my Model S today** I ve highlighted posts that I think fall into the category of Model 3 sightings or vanity posts as of this minute. And they total 15 of the top 25 posts or 60% of posts. In my opinion this is valuable and lost real estate for good discussion about Tesla. & nbsp Thoughts? & nbsp & nbsp Note: I m posting this after finding my comment in the weekly Q& A thread was hardly seen from the low replies in the weekly posts it looks like they get little visibility. And I think this is a relatively important discussion to be had. That comment was made 4 hours before this one and so my observations were taken then. | x0nt | 2017-12-18 07:03:36 | 101 | drey5kn | I kinda agree. I thought we were following a guideline that * posts that “benefit” the community go in r TeslaMotors * posts that “benefit” the person go in r teslalounge The posts about personal deliveries cake detailing and order screenshots belong in the latter. I m willing to accept an exception to the rule for Model 3 till we know how the production ramp is going via the report in January. | afishinacloud | 2017-12-18 08:26:44 | 29 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
7kjngd | [Discussion] Tesla Sightings & Vanity Posts | In my opinion the number of model 3 sighting threads is getting really ridiculous and clogging up the front page of r teslamotors. Not to mention the vanity posts about people who have ordered a car or other vanity posts like I had a Tesla birthday cake . Currently (4 hours ago) the top post in r teslamotors is someone posting the plate for the car they have ordered. Can that post generate some actual fruitful discussion? I m very dubious. My suggestion is that the mods rule these kinds of threads as superfluous and rule that all sightings of nothing atypical be pushed into one post perhaps the weekly experience threads. Currently no-one really does this and just posts their own new post. Often the front page of r teslamotors is > 50% about a model 3 seen in the wild or the order they just placed. R teslamotors is a great place for discussion and when it s clogged up of these kinds of posts it loses it s value significantly. Good interesting discussions disappear and they lose depth and focus as people don t often go beyond the front page. Current Top 25 Posts on r teslamotors (4 hours ago) and I m paraphrasing the contents: * **Look at my plate** * **I detailed my Model X** * **I saw 4 red Model 3 s today** * **Another Model 3 was delivered** * Tesla Model S model added to GTA * **I saw a Model 3 in Chicago** * Cars clogging up a supercharger * New Tesla Service Center picture * Jeremy Clarkson comments about self-driving * **I m getting my Model 3 in a month** * A Model S was modded into a wagon * Model 3 config access first report. * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I saw a Model 3** * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I had a Tesla birthday cake** * Model X on top of a restaurant * Model S changes over 2 years * **Saw some Model 3 s at the Fremont carpark** * **Got my Model X today** * Supercharger nearly online * **Saw a Model X taxi** * Discussion on a revamped Model S s battery * **Got my Model S today** I ve highlighted posts that I think fall into the category of Model 3 sightings or vanity posts as of this minute. And they total 15 of the top 25 posts or 60% of posts. In my opinion this is valuable and lost real estate for good discussion about Tesla. & nbsp Thoughts? & nbsp & nbsp Note: I m posting this after finding my comment in the weekly Q& A thread was hardly seen from the low replies in the weekly posts it looks like they get little visibility. And I think this is a relatively important discussion to be had. That comment was made 4 hours before this one and so my observations were taken then. | x0nt | 2017-12-18 07:03:36 | 101 | drexfc2 | I suggest that we keep the sub as is for the time being. Bear with me. Today is Dec 18 and on Jan 2nd or so we will learn approximately how many Model 3 s were delivered this quarter. When this happens there should be a single megathread discussing the good or bad news this megathread should be renewed weekly part 1-4 until the Q4 2017 shareholder letter gets released and we get the call. AT THIS POINT. We will need a new megathread for the call itself and other discussion reguarding the Q4. After the heat has cools off we should indeed review the rules about similar low quality content. Not now. Why do I say we should leave it as is for the moment? Because if you look closely at your Top Post list nearly half the posts were undesirable accoriding to you yet r teslamotors disagrees because all these posts make it to the sub s front page we remove what the sub enjoys at the moment. Also there currently is no interesting news to talk about electrek has been short on tesla articles for the past few days the only news we have is about the Semi reservations the tax law which affects the US only and Tesla having won part of the fight in Michigan. We have nothing of value to talk about except Model 3 vins spotteds detailled Model S and X s. I upvoted all these posts because I want to see progress and this is the only way I can. If we remove the low quality content too early the sub will lose interest in itself it s what this sub is suppose to be spotted news cars vanity plates serious comments critical arguments when not abused. My 2c and I hope Mods will back my arguments. | Cubicbill1 | 2017-12-18 07:57:39 | 22 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
7kjngd | [Discussion] Tesla Sightings & Vanity Posts | In my opinion the number of model 3 sighting threads is getting really ridiculous and clogging up the front page of r teslamotors. Not to mention the vanity posts about people who have ordered a car or other vanity posts like I had a Tesla birthday cake . Currently (4 hours ago) the top post in r teslamotors is someone posting the plate for the car they have ordered. Can that post generate some actual fruitful discussion? I m very dubious. My suggestion is that the mods rule these kinds of threads as superfluous and rule that all sightings of nothing atypical be pushed into one post perhaps the weekly experience threads. Currently no-one really does this and just posts their own new post. Often the front page of r teslamotors is > 50% about a model 3 seen in the wild or the order they just placed. R teslamotors is a great place for discussion and when it s clogged up of these kinds of posts it loses it s value significantly. Good interesting discussions disappear and they lose depth and focus as people don t often go beyond the front page. Current Top 25 Posts on r teslamotors (4 hours ago) and I m paraphrasing the contents: * **Look at my plate** * **I detailed my Model X** * **I saw 4 red Model 3 s today** * **Another Model 3 was delivered** * Tesla Model S model added to GTA * **I saw a Model 3 in Chicago** * Cars clogging up a supercharger * New Tesla Service Center picture * Jeremy Clarkson comments about self-driving * **I m getting my Model 3 in a month** * A Model S was modded into a wagon * Model 3 config access first report. * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I saw a Model 3** * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I had a Tesla birthday cake** * Model X on top of a restaurant * Model S changes over 2 years * **Saw some Model 3 s at the Fremont carpark** * **Got my Model X today** * Supercharger nearly online * **Saw a Model X taxi** * Discussion on a revamped Model S s battery * **Got my Model S today** I ve highlighted posts that I think fall into the category of Model 3 sightings or vanity posts as of this minute. And they total 15 of the top 25 posts or 60% of posts. In my opinion this is valuable and lost real estate for good discussion about Tesla. & nbsp Thoughts? & nbsp & nbsp Note: I m posting this after finding my comment in the weekly Q& A thread was hardly seen from the low replies in the weekly posts it looks like they get little visibility. And I think this is a relatively important discussion to be had. That comment was made 4 hours before this one and so my observations were taken then. | x0nt | 2017-12-18 07:03:36 | 101 | drexvg4 | Maybe have a sticky thread for Model 3 sightings... Or move them to r TeslaLounge The problem is I forget to go there but if we know signings and similar posts are in the lounge those that want to view them can go there. | M3FanOZ | 2017-12-18 08:15:12 | 13 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
7kjngd | [Discussion] Tesla Sightings & Vanity Posts | In my opinion the number of model 3 sighting threads is getting really ridiculous and clogging up the front page of r teslamotors. Not to mention the vanity posts about people who have ordered a car or other vanity posts like I had a Tesla birthday cake . Currently (4 hours ago) the top post in r teslamotors is someone posting the plate for the car they have ordered. Can that post generate some actual fruitful discussion? I m very dubious. My suggestion is that the mods rule these kinds of threads as superfluous and rule that all sightings of nothing atypical be pushed into one post perhaps the weekly experience threads. Currently no-one really does this and just posts their own new post. Often the front page of r teslamotors is > 50% about a model 3 seen in the wild or the order they just placed. R teslamotors is a great place for discussion and when it s clogged up of these kinds of posts it loses it s value significantly. Good interesting discussions disappear and they lose depth and focus as people don t often go beyond the front page. Current Top 25 Posts on r teslamotors (4 hours ago) and I m paraphrasing the contents: * **Look at my plate** * **I detailed my Model X** * **I saw 4 red Model 3 s today** * **Another Model 3 was delivered** * Tesla Model S model added to GTA * **I saw a Model 3 in Chicago** * Cars clogging up a supercharger * New Tesla Service Center picture * Jeremy Clarkson comments about self-driving * **I m getting my Model 3 in a month** * A Model S was modded into a wagon * Model 3 config access first report. * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I saw a Model 3** * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I had a Tesla birthday cake** * Model X on top of a restaurant * Model S changes over 2 years * **Saw some Model 3 s at the Fremont carpark** * **Got my Model X today** * Supercharger nearly online * **Saw a Model X taxi** * Discussion on a revamped Model S s battery * **Got my Model S today** I ve highlighted posts that I think fall into the category of Model 3 sightings or vanity posts as of this minute. And they total 15 of the top 25 posts or 60% of posts. In my opinion this is valuable and lost real estate for good discussion about Tesla. & nbsp Thoughts? & nbsp & nbsp Note: I m posting this after finding my comment in the weekly Q& A thread was hardly seen from the low replies in the weekly posts it looks like they get little visibility. And I think this is a relatively important discussion to be had. That comment was made 4 hours before this one and so my observations were taken then. | x0nt | 2017-12-18 07:03:36 | 101 | drf0dlc | It s boring as shite and the VIN number posts should be in one megathread or something. | Mugin | 2017-12-18 10:07:40 | 13 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
7kjngd | [Discussion] Tesla Sightings & Vanity Posts | In my opinion the number of model 3 sighting threads is getting really ridiculous and clogging up the front page of r teslamotors. Not to mention the vanity posts about people who have ordered a car or other vanity posts like I had a Tesla birthday cake . Currently (4 hours ago) the top post in r teslamotors is someone posting the plate for the car they have ordered. Can that post generate some actual fruitful discussion? I m very dubious. My suggestion is that the mods rule these kinds of threads as superfluous and rule that all sightings of nothing atypical be pushed into one post perhaps the weekly experience threads. Currently no-one really does this and just posts their own new post. Often the front page of r teslamotors is > 50% about a model 3 seen in the wild or the order they just placed. R teslamotors is a great place for discussion and when it s clogged up of these kinds of posts it loses it s value significantly. Good interesting discussions disappear and they lose depth and focus as people don t often go beyond the front page. Current Top 25 Posts on r teslamotors (4 hours ago) and I m paraphrasing the contents: * **Look at my plate** * **I detailed my Model X** * **I saw 4 red Model 3 s today** * **Another Model 3 was delivered** * Tesla Model S model added to GTA * **I saw a Model 3 in Chicago** * Cars clogging up a supercharger * New Tesla Service Center picture * Jeremy Clarkson comments about self-driving * **I m getting my Model 3 in a month** * A Model S was modded into a wagon * Model 3 config access first report. * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I saw a Model 3** * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I had a Tesla birthday cake** * Model X on top of a restaurant * Model S changes over 2 years * **Saw some Model 3 s at the Fremont carpark** * **Got my Model X today** * Supercharger nearly online * **Saw a Model X taxi** * Discussion on a revamped Model S s battery * **Got my Model S today** I ve highlighted posts that I think fall into the category of Model 3 sightings or vanity posts as of this minute. And they total 15 of the top 25 posts or 60% of posts. In my opinion this is valuable and lost real estate for good discussion about Tesla. & nbsp Thoughts? & nbsp & nbsp Note: I m posting this after finding my comment in the weekly Q& A thread was hardly seen from the low replies in the weekly posts it looks like they get little visibility. And I think this is a relatively important discussion to be had. That comment was made 4 hours before this one and so my observations were taken then. | x0nt | 2017-12-18 07:03:36 | 101 | drewh49 | This is a perfectly fine idea but because of the language you ve used including *in my opinion vanity ridiculous superfluous * you can probably expect to be downvoted. This is a decent rule of thumb for many circumstances where you re going to be advocating for something where you re a minority: think about what you want - in this case more high quality tesla discussion - and stay positive while framing your arguments less as an attack and more in support of what you want. | TomasTTEngin | 2017-12-18 07:23:02 | 12 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
7kjngd | [Discussion] Tesla Sightings & Vanity Posts | In my opinion the number of model 3 sighting threads is getting really ridiculous and clogging up the front page of r teslamotors. Not to mention the vanity posts about people who have ordered a car or other vanity posts like I had a Tesla birthday cake . Currently (4 hours ago) the top post in r teslamotors is someone posting the plate for the car they have ordered. Can that post generate some actual fruitful discussion? I m very dubious. My suggestion is that the mods rule these kinds of threads as superfluous and rule that all sightings of nothing atypical be pushed into one post perhaps the weekly experience threads. Currently no-one really does this and just posts their own new post. Often the front page of r teslamotors is > 50% about a model 3 seen in the wild or the order they just placed. R teslamotors is a great place for discussion and when it s clogged up of these kinds of posts it loses it s value significantly. Good interesting discussions disappear and they lose depth and focus as people don t often go beyond the front page. Current Top 25 Posts on r teslamotors (4 hours ago) and I m paraphrasing the contents: * **Look at my plate** * **I detailed my Model X** * **I saw 4 red Model 3 s today** * **Another Model 3 was delivered** * Tesla Model S model added to GTA * **I saw a Model 3 in Chicago** * Cars clogging up a supercharger * New Tesla Service Center picture * Jeremy Clarkson comments about self-driving * **I m getting my Model 3 in a month** * A Model S was modded into a wagon * Model 3 config access first report. * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I saw a Model 3** * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I had a Tesla birthday cake** * Model X on top of a restaurant * Model S changes over 2 years * **Saw some Model 3 s at the Fremont carpark** * **Got my Model X today** * Supercharger nearly online * **Saw a Model X taxi** * Discussion on a revamped Model S s battery * **Got my Model S today** I ve highlighted posts that I think fall into the category of Model 3 sightings or vanity posts as of this minute. And they total 15 of the top 25 posts or 60% of posts. In my opinion this is valuable and lost real estate for good discussion about Tesla. & nbsp Thoughts? & nbsp & nbsp Note: I m posting this after finding my comment in the weekly Q& A thread was hardly seen from the low replies in the weekly posts it looks like they get little visibility. And I think this is a relatively important discussion to be had. That comment was made 4 hours before this one and so my observations were taken then. | x0nt | 2017-12-18 07:03:36 | 101 | drewvxs | I m still trying to figure out why that delivery of the Model X got so many upvotes... | a1000wtp | 2017-12-18 07:37:45 | 12 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
7kjngd | [Discussion] Tesla Sightings & Vanity Posts | In my opinion the number of model 3 sighting threads is getting really ridiculous and clogging up the front page of r teslamotors. Not to mention the vanity posts about people who have ordered a car or other vanity posts like I had a Tesla birthday cake . Currently (4 hours ago) the top post in r teslamotors is someone posting the plate for the car they have ordered. Can that post generate some actual fruitful discussion? I m very dubious. My suggestion is that the mods rule these kinds of threads as superfluous and rule that all sightings of nothing atypical be pushed into one post perhaps the weekly experience threads. Currently no-one really does this and just posts their own new post. Often the front page of r teslamotors is > 50% about a model 3 seen in the wild or the order they just placed. R teslamotors is a great place for discussion and when it s clogged up of these kinds of posts it loses it s value significantly. Good interesting discussions disappear and they lose depth and focus as people don t often go beyond the front page. Current Top 25 Posts on r teslamotors (4 hours ago) and I m paraphrasing the contents: * **Look at my plate** * **I detailed my Model X** * **I saw 4 red Model 3 s today** * **Another Model 3 was delivered** * Tesla Model S model added to GTA * **I saw a Model 3 in Chicago** * Cars clogging up a supercharger * New Tesla Service Center picture * Jeremy Clarkson comments about self-driving * **I m getting my Model 3 in a month** * A Model S was modded into a wagon * Model 3 config access first report. * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I saw a Model 3** * **I ordered a Model 3** * **I had a Tesla birthday cake** * Model X on top of a restaurant * Model S changes over 2 years * **Saw some Model 3 s at the Fremont carpark** * **Got my Model X today** * Supercharger nearly online * **Saw a Model X taxi** * Discussion on a revamped Model S s battery * **Got my Model S today** I ve highlighted posts that I think fall into the category of Model 3 sightings or vanity posts as of this minute. And they total 15 of the top 25 posts or 60% of posts. In my opinion this is valuable and lost real estate for good discussion about Tesla. & nbsp Thoughts? & nbsp & nbsp Note: I m posting this after finding my comment in the weekly Q& A thread was hardly seen from the low replies in the weekly posts it looks like they get little visibility. And I think this is a relatively important discussion to be had. That comment was made 4 hours before this one and so my observations were taken then. | x0nt | 2017-12-18 07:03:36 | 101 | drewijp | Agree tired of post such vin spotting and model 3 spotting. No purpose for discussion and to me those are just creepy. I wanna go on here to read good content. | ThatTryHardAsian | 2017-12-18 07:24:25 | 8 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
8jvnd4 | [Discussion] Tesla and Elon are huge drivers in accelerating us towards sustainable transportation (potentially carbon neutral with solar). But with SpaceX Elon wants to use rockets for transcontinental transport... wouldn t the rocket fuel burned offset emissions saved by Tesla s and other EVs? | Edit: dang - there is some great stuff to learn about fuel combustion and all of that below! Thanks everyone! | ChromeDome5 | 2018-05-16 15:08:04 | 10 | dz2szrp | No you can make the methane fuel from the air and water on Earth just like you must do on Mars. Sustainable. | pmsyyz | 2018-05-16 15:31:37 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8jvnd4 | [Discussion] Tesla and Elon are huge drivers in accelerating us towards sustainable transportation (potentially carbon neutral with solar). But with SpaceX Elon wants to use rockets for transcontinental transport... wouldn t the rocket fuel burned offset emissions saved by Tesla s and other EVs? | Edit: dang - there is some great stuff to learn about fuel combustion and all of that below! Thanks everyone! | ChromeDome5 | 2018-05-16 15:08:04 | 10 | dz2rqv0 | On mars the BFR fuel will be made from CO2 water and solar. No reason it can t be done on earth. | yzdedream | 2018-05-16 15:13:45 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8568oy | [Discussion] Tesla holding a monopoly position on fast charging Model 3? | Bear with me on this train of thought: * Model 3 owners (and now some Model S and X) owners no longer get free Supercharging * Only Tesla provides Supercharging services * Tesla Model S X have a CHAdeMO adapter limited to 50kW charging (less in practise) * The CHAdeMO adapter does not work with Model 3 * There is no CCS adapter * Tesla fully controls the price of Supercharging This creates a situation where if you own a Tesla car and you want to charge faster than 50kW (for Model S and X) or 7kW (for Model 3 with J1772 adapter) then your only possible charging provider is Tesla. Do you consider that a problem? If it is not a problem right now is that a potential problem for the future (say if Elon sells Tesla to focus on Mars colony full time)? How this would be best solved? Can Tesla owners in some way influence Tesla to solve it? Can anyone besides Tesla solve this? | aigarius | 2018-03-17 19:57:05 | 15 | dvv0kwt | The chudderpmore adapter will work with the 3 at some point but it s a prettttttttty low priority in all likelihood since like 4 people give a damn. If not welp. I only plan on supercharging anyway because convenience > cost. IDGAF really. If it becomes a problem I ll sell the car and buy something from another company. | run-the-joules | 2018-03-17 20:15:39 | 13 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
85d8ny | [Discussion] Tesla in Thoroughbreds movie with ICE dubbed in | Gahhh! I just watched Thoroughbreds and towards the end of the movie a classic white Tesla makes an appearance... but they dubbed ICE noises in for it. The car pulls up off camera so I m assuming that s why they did it so you d know there was a car there but still. Damn sound mixers. Knock that crap off! | skitch23 | 2018-03-18 18:51:23 | 11 | dvwud80 | In Jessica Jones season 2 a guy locks his Tesla and they added a cheap car “chirp” sound effect. I m sure they added so people knew he locked it but still made me shake my head heh. | drkinsanity | 2018-03-18 22:18:06 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
as0p49 | [Discussion] Tesla is unable to give an ETA on the parts the body shop needs to repair your car | TL DR: Don t get into an accident cuz you may never get your car back. For those that don t know [I crashed my Model 3 AWD in icy road conditions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments a8arov you_guys_think_thisll_buff_out ) on Dec 21. Because of a series of unfortunate events the insurance adjuster didn t see it until 1 3 at which point they declared my car repairable with a pricetag of $15 500. Worst news possible. Over the last (nearly) 2 months I ve been in regular contact with the body shop who has been amazing thorughout this entire ordeal. They ordered parts on 1 3 as soon as they got the okay from the insurance to repair but told me what I already knew that parts could take a while. I called them a couple weeks later when they told me they had some parts but not all. I called again 2 weeks ago and they said they re waiting on airbags and some other parts and that it could take a couple more weeks. I emailed Tesla s customer support (LOL) in annoyance at how long it took parts to get out to shops. I obviously knew this was completely useless I just needed to shout into the void. I got an email today saying that they don t have an ETA for parts for my car. I asked for clarification do they not know exactly what parts are needed or do they know what parts are needed but don t have an ETA on when they d be able to be shipped to the store. They emailed back after a couple hours saying We have received the parts orders from the body shop. At this time I do not have an ETA on the backordered items. I m definitely at wit s end. I know others on this forum have had similarly frustrating experiences for much longer periods of time than 8 weeks. So now I guess I m adding my disbelief and frustration to the pile. I have been a huge Tesla fanboy since the roadster. All my friends and acquaintances joking I should be a salesman for them since I talk about them so much. Everyone was very congratulatory when I finally got my car in September. I gave everyone rides and let as many people as I could drive the car. I went to neighbor s houses with my charger to see if their existing garage plugs would work for a Model 3. I can no longer in good concience reccomend Tesla to anyone. This experience has been terrible all because Tesla doesn t give a shit about their owners. *Driving* the car was great. *Owning* the car has been terrible. | DiachronicShear | 2019-02-18 19:04:44 | 89 | egr0ucr | As a former Model S and current Model 3 owner and shareholder this is my biggest fear about owning a Tesla stock. Their communication sucks and their service is the worst. I received better updates on my Prius and Accord than I did on my 80k car. If the big automakers figure out electric cars and someone finally builds one from the ground up the only thing Tesla has left is the Supercharger Network and if big auto figures that one out I fear Tesla is fucked if they don t get this problem under control. Elon tweets a big game but nothing has changed since I became an owner in 2016. | ClevelandSteamer81 | 2019-02-18 19:58:20 | 41 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
as0p49 | [Discussion] Tesla is unable to give an ETA on the parts the body shop needs to repair your car | TL DR: Don t get into an accident cuz you may never get your car back. For those that don t know [I crashed my Model 3 AWD in icy road conditions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments a8arov you_guys_think_thisll_buff_out ) on Dec 21. Because of a series of unfortunate events the insurance adjuster didn t see it until 1 3 at which point they declared my car repairable with a pricetag of $15 500. Worst news possible. Over the last (nearly) 2 months I ve been in regular contact with the body shop who has been amazing thorughout this entire ordeal. They ordered parts on 1 3 as soon as they got the okay from the insurance to repair but told me what I already knew that parts could take a while. I called them a couple weeks later when they told me they had some parts but not all. I called again 2 weeks ago and they said they re waiting on airbags and some other parts and that it could take a couple more weeks. I emailed Tesla s customer support (LOL) in annoyance at how long it took parts to get out to shops. I obviously knew this was completely useless I just needed to shout into the void. I got an email today saying that they don t have an ETA for parts for my car. I asked for clarification do they not know exactly what parts are needed or do they know what parts are needed but don t have an ETA on when they d be able to be shipped to the store. They emailed back after a couple hours saying We have received the parts orders from the body shop. At this time I do not have an ETA on the backordered items. I m definitely at wit s end. I know others on this forum have had similarly frustrating experiences for much longer periods of time than 8 weeks. So now I guess I m adding my disbelief and frustration to the pile. I have been a huge Tesla fanboy since the roadster. All my friends and acquaintances joking I should be a salesman for them since I talk about them so much. Everyone was very congratulatory when I finally got my car in September. I gave everyone rides and let as many people as I could drive the car. I went to neighbor s houses with my charger to see if their existing garage plugs would work for a Model 3. I can no longer in good concience reccomend Tesla to anyone. This experience has been terrible all because Tesla doesn t give a shit about their owners. *Driving* the car was great. *Owning* the car has been terrible. | DiachronicShear | 2019-02-18 19:04:44 | 89 | egqxnjr | Request daily updates from the bodyshop rep. Ask them for the order numbers. If you don t hear from them on a particular day call them. Request everything to be expedited. The squeaky but polite wheel: it s the only thing you can do. My accident was on 12 22. Bodywork has started though windshield has not arrived. That s the one they can t seem to nail down for me. Windshields however can be replaced at a service center (or even your work parking lot) so don t let that part hold up everything else. | sig_UVA | 2019-02-18 19:20:13 | 14 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
as0p49 | [Discussion] Tesla is unable to give an ETA on the parts the body shop needs to repair your car | TL DR: Don t get into an accident cuz you may never get your car back. For those that don t know [I crashed my Model 3 AWD in icy road conditions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments a8arov you_guys_think_thisll_buff_out ) on Dec 21. Because of a series of unfortunate events the insurance adjuster didn t see it until 1 3 at which point they declared my car repairable with a pricetag of $15 500. Worst news possible. Over the last (nearly) 2 months I ve been in regular contact with the body shop who has been amazing thorughout this entire ordeal. They ordered parts on 1 3 as soon as they got the okay from the insurance to repair but told me what I already knew that parts could take a while. I called them a couple weeks later when they told me they had some parts but not all. I called again 2 weeks ago and they said they re waiting on airbags and some other parts and that it could take a couple more weeks. I emailed Tesla s customer support (LOL) in annoyance at how long it took parts to get out to shops. I obviously knew this was completely useless I just needed to shout into the void. I got an email today saying that they don t have an ETA for parts for my car. I asked for clarification do they not know exactly what parts are needed or do they know what parts are needed but don t have an ETA on when they d be able to be shipped to the store. They emailed back after a couple hours saying We have received the parts orders from the body shop. At this time I do not have an ETA on the backordered items. I m definitely at wit s end. I know others on this forum have had similarly frustrating experiences for much longer periods of time than 8 weeks. So now I guess I m adding my disbelief and frustration to the pile. I have been a huge Tesla fanboy since the roadster. All my friends and acquaintances joking I should be a salesman for them since I talk about them so much. Everyone was very congratulatory when I finally got my car in September. I gave everyone rides and let as many people as I could drive the car. I went to neighbor s houses with my charger to see if their existing garage plugs would work for a Model 3. I can no longer in good concience reccomend Tesla to anyone. This experience has been terrible all because Tesla doesn t give a shit about their owners. *Driving* the car was great. *Owning* the car has been terrible. | DiachronicShear | 2019-02-18 19:04:44 | 89 | egqzbp8 | This and the annoying delivery method(s) are two reasons that scare me off of getting a Tesla. I wonder if the iPace and the upcoming e-tron will or won t have these issues since they are coming from legacy car manufacturers . | TheNamesDave | 2019-02-18 19:40:20 | 12 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
as0p49 | [Discussion] Tesla is unable to give an ETA on the parts the body shop needs to repair your car | TL DR: Don t get into an accident cuz you may never get your car back. For those that don t know [I crashed my Model 3 AWD in icy road conditions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments a8arov you_guys_think_thisll_buff_out ) on Dec 21. Because of a series of unfortunate events the insurance adjuster didn t see it until 1 3 at which point they declared my car repairable with a pricetag of $15 500. Worst news possible. Over the last (nearly) 2 months I ve been in regular contact with the body shop who has been amazing thorughout this entire ordeal. They ordered parts on 1 3 as soon as they got the okay from the insurance to repair but told me what I already knew that parts could take a while. I called them a couple weeks later when they told me they had some parts but not all. I called again 2 weeks ago and they said they re waiting on airbags and some other parts and that it could take a couple more weeks. I emailed Tesla s customer support (LOL) in annoyance at how long it took parts to get out to shops. I obviously knew this was completely useless I just needed to shout into the void. I got an email today saying that they don t have an ETA for parts for my car. I asked for clarification do they not know exactly what parts are needed or do they know what parts are needed but don t have an ETA on when they d be able to be shipped to the store. They emailed back after a couple hours saying We have received the parts orders from the body shop. At this time I do not have an ETA on the backordered items. I m definitely at wit s end. I know others on this forum have had similarly frustrating experiences for much longer periods of time than 8 weeks. So now I guess I m adding my disbelief and frustration to the pile. I have been a huge Tesla fanboy since the roadster. All my friends and acquaintances joking I should be a salesman for them since I talk about them so much. Everyone was very congratulatory when I finally got my car in September. I gave everyone rides and let as many people as I could drive the car. I went to neighbor s houses with my charger to see if their existing garage plugs would work for a Model 3. I can no longer in good concience reccomend Tesla to anyone. This experience has been terrible all because Tesla doesn t give a shit about their owners. *Driving* the car was great. *Owning* the car has been terrible. | DiachronicShear | 2019-02-18 19:04:44 | 89 | egr1ov3 | Mine started similar but ended in them telling me it would be over a month to get the part made and installed for my Model S. I had a loaner but I hated every minute of it even after an ETA was known. | feyzquib7 | 2019-02-18 20:08:08 | 6 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
as0p49 | [Discussion] Tesla is unable to give an ETA on the parts the body shop needs to repair your car | TL DR: Don t get into an accident cuz you may never get your car back. For those that don t know [I crashed my Model 3 AWD in icy road conditions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments a8arov you_guys_think_thisll_buff_out ) on Dec 21. Because of a series of unfortunate events the insurance adjuster didn t see it until 1 3 at which point they declared my car repairable with a pricetag of $15 500. Worst news possible. Over the last (nearly) 2 months I ve been in regular contact with the body shop who has been amazing thorughout this entire ordeal. They ordered parts on 1 3 as soon as they got the okay from the insurance to repair but told me what I already knew that parts could take a while. I called them a couple weeks later when they told me they had some parts but not all. I called again 2 weeks ago and they said they re waiting on airbags and some other parts and that it could take a couple more weeks. I emailed Tesla s customer support (LOL) in annoyance at how long it took parts to get out to shops. I obviously knew this was completely useless I just needed to shout into the void. I got an email today saying that they don t have an ETA for parts for my car. I asked for clarification do they not know exactly what parts are needed or do they know what parts are needed but don t have an ETA on when they d be able to be shipped to the store. They emailed back after a couple hours saying We have received the parts orders from the body shop. At this time I do not have an ETA on the backordered items. I m definitely at wit s end. I know others on this forum have had similarly frustrating experiences for much longer periods of time than 8 weeks. So now I guess I m adding my disbelief and frustration to the pile. I have been a huge Tesla fanboy since the roadster. All my friends and acquaintances joking I should be a salesman for them since I talk about them so much. Everyone was very congratulatory when I finally got my car in September. I gave everyone rides and let as many people as I could drive the car. I went to neighbor s houses with my charger to see if their existing garage plugs would work for a Model 3. I can no longer in good concience reccomend Tesla to anyone. This experience has been terrible all because Tesla doesn t give a shit about their owners. *Driving* the car was great. *Owning* the car has been terrible. | DiachronicShear | 2019-02-18 19:04:44 | 89 | egrhdz0 | Sorry to hear about your delays. As someone who followed Tesla for years before we got our first one this is not surprising. I can imagine it s gotten exponentially worse since the 3 came out. My friend accidentally dropped a kayak on his hood and it took 4 months to get a replacement. Luckily the car was drivable but with a huge dent right in the middle. | ThaiTum | 2019-02-18 23:18:24 | 6 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
as0p49 | [Discussion] Tesla is unable to give an ETA on the parts the body shop needs to repair your car | TL DR: Don t get into an accident cuz you may never get your car back. For those that don t know [I crashed my Model 3 AWD in icy road conditions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments a8arov you_guys_think_thisll_buff_out ) on Dec 21. Because of a series of unfortunate events the insurance adjuster didn t see it until 1 3 at which point they declared my car repairable with a pricetag of $15 500. Worst news possible. Over the last (nearly) 2 months I ve been in regular contact with the body shop who has been amazing thorughout this entire ordeal. They ordered parts on 1 3 as soon as they got the okay from the insurance to repair but told me what I already knew that parts could take a while. I called them a couple weeks later when they told me they had some parts but not all. I called again 2 weeks ago and they said they re waiting on airbags and some other parts and that it could take a couple more weeks. I emailed Tesla s customer support (LOL) in annoyance at how long it took parts to get out to shops. I obviously knew this was completely useless I just needed to shout into the void. I got an email today saying that they don t have an ETA for parts for my car. I asked for clarification do they not know exactly what parts are needed or do they know what parts are needed but don t have an ETA on when they d be able to be shipped to the store. They emailed back after a couple hours saying We have received the parts orders from the body shop. At this time I do not have an ETA on the backordered items. I m definitely at wit s end. I know others on this forum have had similarly frustrating experiences for much longer periods of time than 8 weeks. So now I guess I m adding my disbelief and frustration to the pile. I have been a huge Tesla fanboy since the roadster. All my friends and acquaintances joking I should be a salesman for them since I talk about them so much. Everyone was very congratulatory when I finally got my car in September. I gave everyone rides and let as many people as I could drive the car. I went to neighbor s houses with my charger to see if their existing garage plugs would work for a Model 3. I can no longer in good concience reccomend Tesla to anyone. This experience has been terrible all because Tesla doesn t give a shit about their owners. *Driving* the car was great. *Owning* the car has been terrible. | DiachronicShear | 2019-02-18 19:04:44 | 89 | egrj2k3 | This is not different from every story I d heard so far....very disappointing.... | lolento | 2019-02-18 23:40:58 | 6 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
as0p49 | [Discussion] Tesla is unable to give an ETA on the parts the body shop needs to repair your car | TL DR: Don t get into an accident cuz you may never get your car back. For those that don t know [I crashed my Model 3 AWD in icy road conditions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments a8arov you_guys_think_thisll_buff_out ) on Dec 21. Because of a series of unfortunate events the insurance adjuster didn t see it until 1 3 at which point they declared my car repairable with a pricetag of $15 500. Worst news possible. Over the last (nearly) 2 months I ve been in regular contact with the body shop who has been amazing thorughout this entire ordeal. They ordered parts on 1 3 as soon as they got the okay from the insurance to repair but told me what I already knew that parts could take a while. I called them a couple weeks later when they told me they had some parts but not all. I called again 2 weeks ago and they said they re waiting on airbags and some other parts and that it could take a couple more weeks. I emailed Tesla s customer support (LOL) in annoyance at how long it took parts to get out to shops. I obviously knew this was completely useless I just needed to shout into the void. I got an email today saying that they don t have an ETA for parts for my car. I asked for clarification do they not know exactly what parts are needed or do they know what parts are needed but don t have an ETA on when they d be able to be shipped to the store. They emailed back after a couple hours saying We have received the parts orders from the body shop. At this time I do not have an ETA on the backordered items. I m definitely at wit s end. I know others on this forum have had similarly frustrating experiences for much longer periods of time than 8 weeks. So now I guess I m adding my disbelief and frustration to the pile. I have been a huge Tesla fanboy since the roadster. All my friends and acquaintances joking I should be a salesman for them since I talk about them so much. Everyone was very congratulatory when I finally got my car in September. I gave everyone rides and let as many people as I could drive the car. I went to neighbor s houses with my charger to see if their existing garage plugs would work for a Model 3. I can no longer in good concience reccomend Tesla to anyone. This experience has been terrible all because Tesla doesn t give a shit about their owners. *Driving* the car was great. *Owning* the car has been terrible. | DiachronicShear | 2019-02-18 19:04:44 | 89 | egqzyv7 | I know you have emailed customer support but have you emailed [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])? They are a team dedicated for exactly this. [https: www.tesla.com support body-shop-support?redirect=no](https: www.tesla.com support body-shop-support?redirect=no) | scottrobertson | 2019-02-18 19:48:00 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
84cnvm | [Discussion] Tesla owners who live in old buildings without wall outlets how do you manage your charging? | I am facing this issue now as my building is refusing to install an outlet for me. I know some drivers just use the charging stations to charge their cars but for the people who were able to get wall outlets installed in older buildings how did you do it? | ariiza | 2018-03-14 11:32:15 | 18 | dvomfk4 | Assuming you re a renter I would call every apartment building within 5mi and ask if they support EV charging or are willing to add one. Tell them you re looking to move. Write access to a 240V X A charger into your lease. If you re an owner pull a new dedicated wire from your electrical service to the garage. It may be a hassle to find a good route through the conduit in your house (or out in new conduit) but that ll fix it. | xmantipper | 2018-03-14 13:38:14 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
84cnvm | [Discussion] Tesla owners who live in old buildings without wall outlets how do you manage your charging? | I am facing this issue now as my building is refusing to install an outlet for me. I know some drivers just use the charging stations to charge their cars but for the people who were able to get wall outlets installed in older buildings how did you do it? | ariiza | 2018-03-14 11:32:15 | 18 | dvoumf0 | If you live in California then your apartment condo must allow you to install an outlet for charging as long as you pay the cost of install. | paulwesterberg | 2018-03-14 15:54:08 | 11 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
84cnvm | [Discussion] Tesla owners who live in old buildings without wall outlets how do you manage your charging? | I am facing this issue now as my building is refusing to install an outlet for me. I know some drivers just use the charging stations to charge their cars but for the people who were able to get wall outlets installed in older buildings how did you do it? | ariiza | 2018-03-14 11:32:15 | 18 | dvosqxp | Honestly there are so many charging options at work my gym and just a general proximity to Superchargers here in Northern California that it has yet to be an option. I do envy those who can wake up to a full battery but it really has not been a problem for me at all. In fact it s sort of forced me to work out more and use the chargers at my gym. So thanks Tesla for the new weight loss program! lol | SuperPCUserName | 2018-03-14 15:25:18 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
84cnvm | [Discussion] Tesla owners who live in old buildings without wall outlets how do you manage your charging? | I am facing this issue now as my building is refusing to install an outlet for me. I know some drivers just use the charging stations to charge their cars but for the people who were able to get wall outlets installed in older buildings how did you do it? | ariiza | 2018-03-14 11:32:15 | 18 | dvooelr | Own in NYC. Park in a garage with no charging. Most difficult part is when coming back from road trips can t just run battery down to 0 at final destination I try to leave myself at least 50 miles for battery drain while parked. Can park in multiple garages around the city and will charge at ~30 miles hour when I need to have a full charge prior to starting a road trip. Not most convenient but definitely worth putting up with to have an X. Still in love with it. | chrmnfthbrd | 2018-03-14 14:14:10 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
84cnvm | [Discussion] Tesla owners who live in old buildings without wall outlets how do you manage your charging? | I am facing this issue now as my building is refusing to install an outlet for me. I know some drivers just use the charging stations to charge their cars but for the people who were able to get wall outlets installed in older buildings how did you do it? | ariiza | 2018-03-14 11:32:15 | 18 | dvoia4q | How many clicks do you drive per week? Is charging at your workplace an option? How far away is the nearest supercharger? Maybe you need to dedicate yourself to spending a few hours week at a mall as your car charges | analyst_84 | 2018-03-14 12:03:52 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7qtl4p | [Discussion] Tesla plans to start making Standard Battery cars in the next few months? | Some people have speculated that Tesla will wait until the US federal tax credit starts expiring (Oct 1) to begin producing the cheaper cars. But my estimate for standard battery on Tesla s own site is Early 2018 . I understand these dates have slipped since they were sent out but how far is the question. I m a non-owner who waited in line on the east coast so I m sure there are others out there with earlier standard battery estimates than me right? What s the earliest anyone has seen? Perhaps from a west coast owner. | coasterswim | 2018-01-16 16:47:59 | 31 | dsrst0r | Hi. I collect Tesla.com estimates data from users. People from CA who reserved on 31 March 2016 before noon are still reporting Early 2018 . Nothing has changed so far this year with Tesla s SR or AWD estimates. Tesla has three options for their vague estimates: Early 2018 Mid 2018 and Late 2018. My guess is Early means Jan to April Mid means May to Aug and Late means Sep to Dec. | Teslike | 2018-01-16 17:23:07 | 14 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
7qtl4p | [Discussion] Tesla plans to start making Standard Battery cars in the next few months? | Some people have speculated that Tesla will wait until the US federal tax credit starts expiring (Oct 1) to begin producing the cheaper cars. But my estimate for standard battery on Tesla s own site is Early 2018 . I understand these dates have slipped since they were sent out but how far is the question. I m a non-owner who waited in line on the east coast so I m sure there are others out there with earlier standard battery estimates than me right? What s the earliest anyone has seen? Perhaps from a west coast owner. | coasterswim | 2018-01-16 16:47:59 | 31 | dsrqtfg | Everyone who knows is under an NDA and all the info out there is just speculation. | run-the-joules | 2018-01-16 16:50:56 | 9 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
7qtl4p | [Discussion] Tesla plans to start making Standard Battery cars in the next few months? | Some people have speculated that Tesla will wait until the US federal tax credit starts expiring (Oct 1) to begin producing the cheaper cars. But my estimate for standard battery on Tesla s own site is Early 2018 . I understand these dates have slipped since they were sent out but how far is the question. I m a non-owner who waited in line on the east coast so I m sure there are others out there with earlier standard battery estimates than me right? What s the earliest anyone has seen? Perhaps from a west coast owner. | coasterswim | 2018-01-16 16:47:59 | 31 | dsrt102 | I heard a rumor in another thread that Tesla would be swapping the order of AWD and the SR cars. Order would then be LR - > AWD - > SR I m assuming they d announce this at the Q4 call. | Athabascad | 2018-01-16 17:26:40 | 7 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
7qtl4p | [Discussion] Tesla plans to start making Standard Battery cars in the next few months? | Some people have speculated that Tesla will wait until the US federal tax credit starts expiring (Oct 1) to begin producing the cheaper cars. But my estimate for standard battery on Tesla s own site is Early 2018 . I understand these dates have slipped since they were sent out but how far is the question. I m a non-owner who waited in line on the east coast so I m sure there are others out there with earlier standard battery estimates than me right? What s the earliest anyone has seen? Perhaps from a west coast owner. | coasterswim | 2018-01-16 16:47:59 | 31 | dsrrteq | I don t see there being any serious motivation to make the standard battery option yet. They are not able to produce enough yet to satisfy the long range deliveries and it will be that way for some time still. The premium priced options will likely get the early attention from manufacturing. This seems to be the strategy based on the current first production run being the premium option available now. BTW. I am totally OK with this strategy. Can t wait for my reservation to pop up. | YTDamnit | 2018-01-16 17:07:14 | 6 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
7qtl4p | [Discussion] Tesla plans to start making Standard Battery cars in the next few months? | Some people have speculated that Tesla will wait until the US federal tax credit starts expiring (Oct 1) to begin producing the cheaper cars. But my estimate for standard battery on Tesla s own site is Early 2018 . I understand these dates have slipped since they were sent out but how far is the question. I m a non-owner who waited in line on the east coast so I m sure there are others out there with earlier standard battery estimates than me right? What s the earliest anyone has seen? Perhaps from a west coast owner. | coasterswim | 2018-01-16 16:47:59 | 31 | dsrwhi9 | Tesla have already stated that cash conservation is a high priority and making LR cars with PUP given their margins on these two options is good means we might not see a $35 000 Model 3 until late this year - possibly even early 2019 | ThatIsMrDickHead2You | 2018-01-16 18:21:48 | 5 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
b1fu7y | [Discussion] Tesla s Carbon Impact In Terms You can Understand | So Recently Tesla just hit its 4 millionth ton of CO2 saved by it s fleet of electric vehicles. Thats just a number and it doesn t mean much to you. So let s science the shit out of this. Recently SunRun released their [impact report](https: cleantechnica.com 2019 03 07 sunrun-solar-systems-have-prevented-nearly-4-million-metric-tons-of-carbon ) and in it they say that they ve saved almost 3.7 Million tons of CO2. They have a few analogies in there and I m gonna adjust those to fit Tesla s number. * Tesla Saved 4 Million Tons of CO2 or almost 10 Billion miles driven by an ICE car. To rack up 10 Billion miles you d need to drive to Pluto thrice. It would take light about 15 Hours to travel that distance! * 4 Million Tons of CO2=2 Million Tons of coal America s largest coal plant burns about [11 Million tons](https: gizmodo.com americas-largest-coal-power-plant-burns-11-million-tons-5850299) per year! So its like shutting down a small power plant for a year. * A mature tree absorbs about 18 Kgs(48lbs) per year of CO2 each year so Elon might as well have planted 222 000 000 trees * The weight of the CO2 that Tesla saved is about the weight of 76 Titanics * To produce 4 Million tons of CO2 you d have to burn 10 000 barrels of oil * It would take the average American about 200 000 years to create that much CO2. Conversely it would take about 200 000 Americans to make that much CO2 over a year. Now onto some speculation I think this number should be a lot higher. Tesla negated the need for about 10 000 barrels of oil and that number is just gonna grow! That is 10 000 barrels that we didn t have to extract and oil extraction is a carbon intensive process. I mean you have to drill it with big machines. Heat all that crude till it boils (which uses a lot of electricity). Transport it on gas guzzling trucks. All even before it hits the gas station. According to this [paper](https: www.ssb.no en forskning discussion-papers _attachment 225118) 130 Kgs of CO2 is produced for every ton oil equivalent or the energy released by burning one tonne of crude.A barrel of crude weighs about 136 Kgs or 300 ponds and we saved about 10 000 barrels of oil so that ads up to another 1.3 million kgs of CO2 saved! & #x200B These are all rough calculations if any stat is incorrect please feel free to correct me in the comments below! Hope you learned something! | afterburners_engaged | 2019-03-15 14:49:12 | 29 | eilawug | > Transport it on gas guzzling trucks. All even before it hits the gas station. To the refinery. Which uses resources. Then additional shipping to the gas station. & #x200B | vegitator | 2019-03-15 14:54:57 | 8 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
awrlz5 | [Discussion] Tesla s Gambit: no showrooms could pay off | If and it s a reasonably big if Tesla are able to sustainably manage transitioning to a primarily online only sales model it s going to be a huge multiplier. The dealership network is a huge part of the legacy process and Tesla has had to emulate that with its own sales centres at great cost. Sales centres by design have to be in premium areas with the intent of exposing to as much foot traffic as possible. By removing the sales stores Tesla can focus on service centres which can be in much cheaper areas and with mobile service technicians. | Mantaup | 2019-03-03 06:59:23 | 13 | ehov3dl | **If** (and this is a big “if”) Tesla can sell cars over the Internet without investing in stores it s a huge deal. It would remove the cost of the dealer network from their vehicles allowing them to hit lower price points than any other carmaker. I could imagine savvy buyers doing their research and buying online. They ll appreciate the discount. You could imagine Tesla supporting rentals on Turo (or something similar) to allow potential buyers to see the cars up close. I m no fan of car dealers and think there are better solutions. | BitcoinsForTesla | 2019-03-03 09:32:27 | 5 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
dxopua | [Discussion] Tesla s pickup truck and crossover will either hasten the demise of GM Ford and Fiat-Chrysler or provoke government action to support the legacy manufacturers. | Electric vehicles are more efficient more comfortable cleaner safer mechanically simpler and have higher performance than ICEVs. The luxury car market has been completely upended by Tesla s Models S X and 3. The disruption has spread from the US to Europe and Asia. The structural challenges facing the upstart have largely been solved. Steady improvements have been made in vehicle range charging network capacity repair parts availability factory automation build quality and reliability. Resistance to the no dealer model is weakening as the brand s popularity holds firm. In the US market about 250 000 pickup trucks are produced and sold each month. Chevy Ford Ram and GMC make up the lion s share of that market. The US SUV and crossover market is less concentrated but larger in units. This segment is over 5 million units per year versus about 3 million full- and mid-size pickup truck. The big 3 produce about half of the SUVs and crossovers. GM Ford and Chrysler have largely conceded the low-margin high volume compact car market to Asian badges. There s no place in the vehicle market for them to retreat to if they face a serious threat to their high margin product lines. The Tesla model Y and Cybertruck appear to be aimed at the heart of the big 3 automakers. Assuming Tesla will have the same impact as has already been seen in luxury segments how will the cornered animals respond? In the past we have seen the government step in to rescue Chrysler from bankruptcy and to assure that GM came through Chapter 11 with fairly superficial restructuring. More recently Chrysler has changed ownership from independence to Daimler to Fiat. All under the watchful eye of the US government. Will the guiding powers take a let the free market decide approach to restructuring the auto industry when things really come apart? Not likely. | frowawayduh | 2019-11-17 16:36:33 | 119 | f7u3y8g | You are spot on. The big three have no where to retreat to. One of the UAW demands during the recent GM strike was that GM not manufacturer EVs in the US. GM would not budge on this issue so we can conclude that the big three are well aware of the threat. The easy move would be for the big three to use lobbying to secretly convince government to mandate against EVs. Some of that has already happened with the elimination of the tax credit but Tesla is to solid now for that to work. Current political climate is against anything drastic in this arena and only likely to improve for EVs heading forward so the only choice left for the big three is to adapt or die. I suspect one of the big three either GM or Daimler will embrace Tesla by buying or leasing their technology. Either purchasing sleds or buying Gigafactories. Tesla not only has a 10 year tech lead but they are being strategic in their decisions By selecting Germany over a cheaper labor area like Poland they are going to attract and absorb the best minds that the German Auto Industry has on staff. By opening a design center they are going to slow down the German Automakers ability to close the gap. After the pickup gets rolling I imagine GF5 will be in Michigan to strike the same blow against the big three. | AwwwComeOnLOU | 2019-11-17 17:05:28 | 19 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
dxopua | [Discussion] Tesla s pickup truck and crossover will either hasten the demise of GM Ford and Fiat-Chrysler or provoke government action to support the legacy manufacturers. | Electric vehicles are more efficient more comfortable cleaner safer mechanically simpler and have higher performance than ICEVs. The luxury car market has been completely upended by Tesla s Models S X and 3. The disruption has spread from the US to Europe and Asia. The structural challenges facing the upstart have largely been solved. Steady improvements have been made in vehicle range charging network capacity repair parts availability factory automation build quality and reliability. Resistance to the no dealer model is weakening as the brand s popularity holds firm. In the US market about 250 000 pickup trucks are produced and sold each month. Chevy Ford Ram and GMC make up the lion s share of that market. The US SUV and crossover market is less concentrated but larger in units. This segment is over 5 million units per year versus about 3 million full- and mid-size pickup truck. The big 3 produce about half of the SUVs and crossovers. GM Ford and Chrysler have largely conceded the low-margin high volume compact car market to Asian badges. There s no place in the vehicle market for them to retreat to if they face a serious threat to their high margin product lines. The Tesla model Y and Cybertruck appear to be aimed at the heart of the big 3 automakers. Assuming Tesla will have the same impact as has already been seen in luxury segments how will the cornered animals respond? In the past we have seen the government step in to rescue Chrysler from bankruptcy and to assure that GM came through Chapter 11 with fairly superficial restructuring. More recently Chrysler has changed ownership from independence to Daimler to Fiat. All under the watchful eye of the US government. Will the guiding powers take a let the free market decide approach to restructuring the auto industry when things really come apart? Not likely. | frowawayduh | 2019-11-17 16:36:33 | 119 | f7v5mow | > Tesla s pickup truck and crossover will either hasten the demise of GM Ford and Fiat-Chrysler or provoke government action to support the legacy manufacturers. False choice. All sorts of other things could happen. | analyticaljoe | 2019-11-17 20:00:20 | 13 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
dxopua | [Discussion] Tesla s pickup truck and crossover will either hasten the demise of GM Ford and Fiat-Chrysler or provoke government action to support the legacy manufacturers. | Electric vehicles are more efficient more comfortable cleaner safer mechanically simpler and have higher performance than ICEVs. The luxury car market has been completely upended by Tesla s Models S X and 3. The disruption has spread from the US to Europe and Asia. The structural challenges facing the upstart have largely been solved. Steady improvements have been made in vehicle range charging network capacity repair parts availability factory automation build quality and reliability. Resistance to the no dealer model is weakening as the brand s popularity holds firm. In the US market about 250 000 pickup trucks are produced and sold each month. Chevy Ford Ram and GMC make up the lion s share of that market. The US SUV and crossover market is less concentrated but larger in units. This segment is over 5 million units per year versus about 3 million full- and mid-size pickup truck. The big 3 produce about half of the SUVs and crossovers. GM Ford and Chrysler have largely conceded the low-margin high volume compact car market to Asian badges. There s no place in the vehicle market for them to retreat to if they face a serious threat to their high margin product lines. The Tesla model Y and Cybertruck appear to be aimed at the heart of the big 3 automakers. Assuming Tesla will have the same impact as has already been seen in luxury segments how will the cornered animals respond? In the past we have seen the government step in to rescue Chrysler from bankruptcy and to assure that GM came through Chapter 11 with fairly superficial restructuring. More recently Chrysler has changed ownership from independence to Daimler to Fiat. All under the watchful eye of the US government. Will the guiding powers take a let the free market decide approach to restructuring the auto industry when things really come apart? Not likely. | frowawayduh | 2019-11-17 16:36:33 | 119 | f7tz0q6 | Ford at least made investments in Rivian and if everything they developed inside the company is trash at least they have backup technology to remain relevant for pickups. The open question is if they can keep pace in terms of range charging speed performance and cost would that be possible if they can t ship as much volume of cars and thus batteries? The cost of cells will make or break anyone including Tesla in the medium term. | activedusk | 2019-11-17 16:43:09 | 12 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
dxopua | [Discussion] Tesla s pickup truck and crossover will either hasten the demise of GM Ford and Fiat-Chrysler or provoke government action to support the legacy manufacturers. | Electric vehicles are more efficient more comfortable cleaner safer mechanically simpler and have higher performance than ICEVs. The luxury car market has been completely upended by Tesla s Models S X and 3. The disruption has spread from the US to Europe and Asia. The structural challenges facing the upstart have largely been solved. Steady improvements have been made in vehicle range charging network capacity repair parts availability factory automation build quality and reliability. Resistance to the no dealer model is weakening as the brand s popularity holds firm. In the US market about 250 000 pickup trucks are produced and sold each month. Chevy Ford Ram and GMC make up the lion s share of that market. The US SUV and crossover market is less concentrated but larger in units. This segment is over 5 million units per year versus about 3 million full- and mid-size pickup truck. The big 3 produce about half of the SUVs and crossovers. GM Ford and Chrysler have largely conceded the low-margin high volume compact car market to Asian badges. There s no place in the vehicle market for them to retreat to if they face a serious threat to their high margin product lines. The Tesla model Y and Cybertruck appear to be aimed at the heart of the big 3 automakers. Assuming Tesla will have the same impact as has already been seen in luxury segments how will the cornered animals respond? In the past we have seen the government step in to rescue Chrysler from bankruptcy and to assure that GM came through Chapter 11 with fairly superficial restructuring. More recently Chrysler has changed ownership from independence to Daimler to Fiat. All under the watchful eye of the US government. Will the guiding powers take a let the free market decide approach to restructuring the auto industry when things really come apart? Not likely. | frowawayduh | 2019-11-17 16:36:33 | 119 | f7uszbp | I think with the Mustang Mach E (which appears to be the only EV aside from Tesla to get the importance of range and efficiency) and the upcoming F150 electric Ford is in the strongest future position of all the mainstream manufacturers. I think their shares are really undervalued when it appears that they are the only major company who seems to be able to make a good EV. | Burntbigtoe | 2019-11-17 19:07:29 | 6 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
dxopua | [Discussion] Tesla s pickup truck and crossover will either hasten the demise of GM Ford and Fiat-Chrysler or provoke government action to support the legacy manufacturers. | Electric vehicles are more efficient more comfortable cleaner safer mechanically simpler and have higher performance than ICEVs. The luxury car market has been completely upended by Tesla s Models S X and 3. The disruption has spread from the US to Europe and Asia. The structural challenges facing the upstart have largely been solved. Steady improvements have been made in vehicle range charging network capacity repair parts availability factory automation build quality and reliability. Resistance to the no dealer model is weakening as the brand s popularity holds firm. In the US market about 250 000 pickup trucks are produced and sold each month. Chevy Ford Ram and GMC make up the lion s share of that market. The US SUV and crossover market is less concentrated but larger in units. This segment is over 5 million units per year versus about 3 million full- and mid-size pickup truck. The big 3 produce about half of the SUVs and crossovers. GM Ford and Chrysler have largely conceded the low-margin high volume compact car market to Asian badges. There s no place in the vehicle market for them to retreat to if they face a serious threat to their high margin product lines. The Tesla model Y and Cybertruck appear to be aimed at the heart of the big 3 automakers. Assuming Tesla will have the same impact as has already been seen in luxury segments how will the cornered animals respond? In the past we have seen the government step in to rescue Chrysler from bankruptcy and to assure that GM came through Chapter 11 with fairly superficial restructuring. More recently Chrysler has changed ownership from independence to Daimler to Fiat. All under the watchful eye of the US government. Will the guiding powers take a let the free market decide approach to restructuring the auto industry when things really come apart? Not likely. | frowawayduh | 2019-11-17 16:36:33 | 119 | f7ui5z7 | A lot of comments saying the big 3 CAN pivot but is there any evidence the ARE or even intend to? Everything electric coming out from them seems like a compliance car. | SyntheticAperture | 2019-11-17 18:23:15 | 5 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
dxopua | [Discussion] Tesla s pickup truck and crossover will either hasten the demise of GM Ford and Fiat-Chrysler or provoke government action to support the legacy manufacturers. | Electric vehicles are more efficient more comfortable cleaner safer mechanically simpler and have higher performance than ICEVs. The luxury car market has been completely upended by Tesla s Models S X and 3. The disruption has spread from the US to Europe and Asia. The structural challenges facing the upstart have largely been solved. Steady improvements have been made in vehicle range charging network capacity repair parts availability factory automation build quality and reliability. Resistance to the no dealer model is weakening as the brand s popularity holds firm. In the US market about 250 000 pickup trucks are produced and sold each month. Chevy Ford Ram and GMC make up the lion s share of that market. The US SUV and crossover market is less concentrated but larger in units. This segment is over 5 million units per year versus about 3 million full- and mid-size pickup truck. The big 3 produce about half of the SUVs and crossovers. GM Ford and Chrysler have largely conceded the low-margin high volume compact car market to Asian badges. There s no place in the vehicle market for them to retreat to if they face a serious threat to their high margin product lines. The Tesla model Y and Cybertruck appear to be aimed at the heart of the big 3 automakers. Assuming Tesla will have the same impact as has already been seen in luxury segments how will the cornered animals respond? In the past we have seen the government step in to rescue Chrysler from bankruptcy and to assure that GM came through Chapter 11 with fairly superficial restructuring. More recently Chrysler has changed ownership from independence to Daimler to Fiat. All under the watchful eye of the US government. Will the guiding powers take a let the free market decide approach to restructuring the auto industry when things really come apart? Not likely. | frowawayduh | 2019-11-17 16:36:33 | 119 | f7wa9pe | I don t think the cybertruck will be as big a hit as everyone thinks with people who use trucks for work. The main reason is part support. Downtime costs money and you can get parts at almost any corner auto parts store for the large American brands. | link_dead | 2019-11-17 22:54:57 | 5 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
ajtzn2 | [Discussion] Tesla s should be able to charge each other. | With so many Model 3s on the road now wouldn t it be a great feature if there was a cable to connect two Tesla so one could charge the other? This could further cut down on range anxiety or eliminate the need for a tow in case of a depleted battery. Also with the advent of autonomous driving you could have superchargers come to you whenever needed. | mohammedgoldstein | 2019-01-25 21:40:30 | 60 | eeyrafc | I like it! It would be similar to siphoning gas from an ICE vehicle in an emergency. Towing a Tesla is no small thing I think a flat bed is required and even then the tow truck needs to deliver your car within charging cable distance (at the SC). I would much rather call one of my kids than a tow truck (see how I bragged a bit there?) :-). | hmspain | 2019-01-25 21:54:46 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ajtzn2 | [Discussion] Tesla s should be able to charge each other. | With so many Model 3s on the road now wouldn t it be a great feature if there was a cable to connect two Tesla so one could charge the other? This could further cut down on range anxiety or eliminate the need for a tow in case of a depleted battery. Also with the advent of autonomous driving you could have superchargers come to you whenever needed. | mohammedgoldstein | 2019-01-25 21:40:30 | 60 | eezcu4y | This has been brought up with Elon before. IIRC the person asking was talking about using it so that the car served as part of the solar powerwall battery for balancing peak off peak. Elon responded that the car doesn t have the circuitry to discharge the main battery like that and it would be a non trivial cost to add to the cars. It s a cool idea but not practical. We ll just start seeing a lot more roadside assistance companies with EV quick chargers on trucks. | CapMSFC | 2019-01-26 02:16:02 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ajtzn2 | [Discussion] Tesla s should be able to charge each other. | With so many Model 3s on the road now wouldn t it be a great feature if there was a cable to connect two Tesla so one could charge the other? This could further cut down on range anxiety or eliminate the need for a tow in case of a depleted battery. Also with the advent of autonomous driving you could have superchargers come to you whenever needed. | mohammedgoldstein | 2019-01-25 21:40:30 | 60 | eeyqayb | I agree 100%. | 2paranoid | 2019-01-25 21:44:26 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed2zf6s | Hopefully they start dropping the prices of their absurd pricing options like paint colours. | EClarkee | 2019-01-02 15:43:37 | 35 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed2oduc | The EV tax credit comes off your 2018 taxes. You file for it with your 2018 return and it is factored in when calculating your refund. | TWANGnBANG | 2019-01-02 12:15:23 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed2np0v | Model S [Base] is $76k Model X [Base] is $82k Model 3 [Base] is $44k ------------------------------ [Base] - No options. | poobearcretu | 2019-01-02 11:56:51 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed2nfr6 | Good find. While the price isn t quite as good as the full US federal tax credit it is nice that the savings is immediate. | phxees | 2019-01-02 11:49:35 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed2q6tm | If you bought a model 3 on december 31st you will get a full credit when you file your tax return in a few months not 2020 | available_username2 | 2019-01-02 12:59:44 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed2wml4 | > I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020 I m sure you can take out a 12 month loan at 75% interest somewhere if that s really to your liking. | VladMolina | 2019-01-02 15:01:18 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed2o28i | I m curious if the European Chinese prices have changed as well. Wouldn t be surprising that they re lowering prices on all cars with their ever increasing margins at least for the US. | MacGyverBE | 2019-01-02 12:06:51 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed2z73v | AWD used to be 55K now it s down to 51k. Basically more than the tax credit. | happyzor | 2019-01-02 15:40:20 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed31546 | I mean on one hand bummer for the early adopters - but on the other hand I ordered early and got the color I wanted before having to pay up to $2500 for a paint job so it seems like the universe has evened out. | icancounttopotatos | 2019-01-02 16:07:38 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed2unq9 | I wish they would not have done this. This just feeds the bear argument that they are demand constrained with a price drop like this. | yutz23 | 2019-01-02 14:28:40 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
abskbm | [Discussion] Tesla seems to have dropped the price of the Model 3 S and X by at least $2 000 | If you go onto the Tesla site https: www.tesla.com and design a car it seems like the pricing for all of the models has decreased by at least $2 000. Perhaps a way to incentivize new buyers who missed the tax credit? We bought a model 3 on the 31st and personally I would ve rather had $2000 now than an additional $3500 off my taxes in 2020. What are your guys thoughts? | Afk94 | 2019-01-02 11:23:35 | 350 | ed33ejt | my suspicion is if (when) the 35k version is delayed again they will further incentivize the mid-range model through Q1 and Q2. | ChemtrailDreams | 2019-01-02 16:38:01 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8ns35v | [Discussion] TeslaFi vs. TezLab vs. TeslaSpy vs Etc | I ve been looking at Tesla data apps for a while now in preparation for my Model 3 and there seems to be quite a few. Does anyone have any feedback or experience with one all of these? \(wish there was a reddit option for a poll\) | whoindahouse | 2018-06-01 13:59:57 | 29 | dzxvkqw | Do all of these apps require me to give the full username password for the app? Do any have different better security than others (like logging in via a tesla page that then passes permission similar to facebook login)? I m dumb on this so forgive any poor use of terms. I like the idea of an app to monitor these things but giving away user pass which could be stored in a database and stolen and for that user pass to then have access to stealing my car is too much of a risk for the trade off to make sense. Follow-up question... what about apps for ALEXA or Google Home to do things like unlock lock or to set climate? | GuardiansBeer | 2018-06-01 14:13:55 | 11 | Tesla companion app features |
8ns35v | [Discussion] TeslaFi vs. TezLab vs. TeslaSpy vs Etc | I ve been looking at Tesla data apps for a while now in preparation for my Model 3 and there seems to be quite a few. Does anyone have any feedback or experience with one all of these? \(wish there was a reddit option for a poll\) | whoindahouse | 2018-06-01 13:59:57 | 29 | dzxx88x | Please forgive my ignorance. What do these apps do exactly? | SodaPopin5ki | 2018-06-01 14:40:06 | 9 | Tesla companion app features |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3hzg9 | Upvoting you so we can hear your voice of dissent. I do feel that this sub has become a “content lake” to serve scoops immediately for the you-know-who s site. Who here feels that it s a conflict of interest to be a Mod here while being a journalist on that website? They can essentially front-run stories and articles and it s evident and obvious as well as silence something. I do appreciate the time and effort of 110110 he seems to be pretty active and wonder if there s a heavier burden on him. It s entirely voluntary so thanks so much. We should not forget that this is a Tesla *enthusiasts* subreddit just like there s a BMW or Porsche subreddit. Enthusiasts doesn t mean permission to be a troll or to be the regular negative muckster trying to spoil the sub. | ShaqLuvsTesla | 2019-03-08 21:07:55 | 62 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3h9kd | Thank you! It s almost impossible to make any kind of post now. | mkmoritz | 2019-03-08 20:59:08 | 38 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3imug | Yes and no. I also have no interest in seeing 546 pictures of random model 3s as each person wants to show everyone THEIR car. Newsflash it s the same as the other 500 pics we saw this week. Yes I sort by New instead of Hot because I am that obsessive ). Sadly that means voting threads up and down doesn t do squat for me. | Eldanon | 2019-03-08 21:15:49 | 29 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3h3p2 | > In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! I second this. I really don t like seeing posts disappear into the nether without a trace. Here is my post about this issue from a month ago: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments ajlyxf discussion_deleted_threads | colddata | 2019-03-08 20:57:11 | 24 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3hduk | While I definitely do enjoy this subreddit I do find more and more and more topics that pop up that I m interested and engaged in get removed for various reasons. It does almost come across like only certain people are allowed to post. I posted as soon as the vanilla Autopilot became available for $2000 and it was removed for a duplicate post even though the only other post that was similar was talking about FSD and not the standard AP and my post generated a lot of discussion but it was removed. The “mega thread” discussion rule almost just seems like a catch all reason to remove anything as well. I support the idea of being more lenient on new posts as long as they generate discussion and add value to the sub. | TeslaLifeisGreat | 2019-03-08 21:00:34 | 24 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3kq0e | It seems like they have so many rules in place they ve defeated the purpose of even using Reddit as a platform as it was intended. USERS are supposed to determine what is useful and interesting and what is not. Might as well create a forum with their own url if they wanted this tight experience they ve facilitated. Seems like it s not even worth trying to post here anymore because it somehow always violates some rule. | tr287 | 2019-03-08 21:41:39 | 18 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3lbwx | It seems like everything one could be interested in is in the daily megathreads which I never read and are not organized. | croninsiglos | 2019-03-08 21:49:08 | 16 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3klvn | I for one love the sightings of completely stock cars fairly mainstream cars being upvoted that s my favorite. | run-the-joules | 2019-03-08 21:40:13 | 13 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3i22f | They removed a post on the china shipping thing where the true number of cars held was updated as a topic repost even though posts with new information are allowed under the rules > We remove duplicate posts based on the time and on a [per-topic basis](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki moderation). If it does not have new information or has been posted within the last month it will be removed. > > Not sure if the topic you re posting about is being discussed already? & #x200B | whatisthisnowwhat | 2019-03-08 21:08:49 | 8 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3loyn | Seriously! Seems more corporate and much less like the expected Reddit spirit here. I ve tried to post new topics only to be discouraged by length of post rules seen my posts later removed etc. Let us share let this be reddit not an official tesla.blog | Possibly-deranged | 2019-03-08 21:53:39 | 8 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3w2wc | Lots of people claiming that Fred isn t actually corrupt so he shouldn t be removed as moderator but can someone tell me why he IS a moderator? | electricrockets | 2019-03-09 00:12:59 | 6 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei406z8 | I think law #1 of Reddit is that any subreddit without sufficient moderation will quickly devolve into a cornucopia of shitposts and memes. It would be said if that s what this subreddit turned into. I also love the daily thread because it really does provide an outlet for questions that are simple or incredibly repetitive in nature and I have no problem with such standalone posts being removed and pointed in that direction. A simple survey of the front page of this subreddit shows 3 50 posts originating from Electrek. That doesn t seem outlandish to me given it s one of the most popular EV sites on the internet. | LouBrown | 2019-03-09 01:12:41 | 6 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3jwra | Why not cancel rule 1 for a week and see how it goes? Reddit s own voting system is an excellent way to filter out low-quality content. | Teslike | 2019-03-08 21:31:30 | 5 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
ayv6bg | [Discussion] Teslamotors recent rule changes create a place where nothing is spectacular or interesting and everything is censored and controlled. | As this subreddit has grown I have witnessed a degradation of quality posts and interesting information due to the over policing by the mods and constant addition of new rules. There are pages of rules! A new user must think we are a bunch of rich-out-of-touch-assholes who don t care to include them in the conversation. The barrier of entry is ridiculous. This used to be a place to discover interesting and new information. However repetitive or naive. Now the stories or experiences that are posted are quickly removed and heavily censored which creates the opposite of why a person visits Reddit. Reddit is better than other news and social media outlets because the content is voted on and elevated based on user interest. Why are we hiding away the user generated photos videos and creations? You have to dig to find this user generated content in the sticky posts. As it stands now the Teslamotors subreddit seems to be an echo chamber of u FredTesla and his Electek website Teslaratti and Twitter re-posts from Elon. Talk about #hailcorporate! & #x200B A simple survey of top stories make this subreddit look like its Fred s show and his opinions. This has also impacted the negativity surrounding recent pricing changes and the like. I feel that we need to return to the spirit of what started this area. Discussions were more interesting and informative than it is today where we have daily thread and exhaustive manuals of previous frequently asked questions . I can t imagine new users feel welcomed here by the unfriendliness of the submission and sharing process. They have to dig for answers which used they could post and receive immediate feedback on the question experiences relevance. There are a million Facebook groups for every aspect of Tesla news gossip and buying or selling cars. This is diluting the relevance of r Teslamotors as the subreddit continues to be a place only for very carefully controlled posts. People are leaving and discussing things of relevance and substance in other places due to this. In summary TL DR let the users downvote content that isn t relevant (or repetitive) or is not additive to the community and the rest will fall into place. If content is valuable enough- people will upvote it. Let the people decide! Anyway that s just my two cents. | TheYeags | 2019-03-08 20:52:37 | 381 | ei3pfqe | If only reddit had some sort of system to allow the members of a sub to bury content they don t find useful and to bubble interesting things to the top... | ekobres | 2019-03-08 22:41:52 | 5 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
aig8ye | [Discussion] Thanks for the... Forcefield? | We had a bit of a snow last week... I had left my car with the heat turned on at work hoping to not have to scrape ice and snow off the car at the end of my day. Upon leaving it was clear that I didn t have to worry about Bramp sitting out in the cold for 9 hours... Took a picture of what looked like the car having formed some kind of shield against the weather. No significant snow or ice build up on the vehicle. It almost looked like a spherical force field had prevented anything from piling up around my car unlike the rest of my fellow employees who had to dig out. So I made a quick GIF of what I imagined was keeping the weather at bay... https: media.giphy.com media 58FDsdlm7LddVJtkYM giphy.gif Thanks Elon! :D | Rowzby | 2019-01-21 23:07:45 | 50 | eenh5i6 | How long was climate on for? How much battery was used? About what was outside temp? What temp did you set climate to? | 70Percenter | 2019-01-21 23:12:34 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
aig8ye | [Discussion] Thanks for the... Forcefield? | We had a bit of a snow last week... I had left my car with the heat turned on at work hoping to not have to scrape ice and snow off the car at the end of my day. Upon leaving it was clear that I didn t have to worry about Bramp sitting out in the cold for 9 hours... Took a picture of what looked like the car having formed some kind of shield against the weather. No significant snow or ice build up on the vehicle. It almost looked like a spherical force field had prevented anything from piling up around my car unlike the rest of my fellow employees who had to dig out. So I made a quick GIF of what I imagined was keeping the weather at bay... https: media.giphy.com media 58FDsdlm7LddVJtkYM giphy.gif Thanks Elon! :D | Rowzby | 2019-01-21 23:07:45 | 50 | eenjsh9 | This is quite a waste of energy. You would have about the same effect if turning on the car about 30 minutes before driving it. | tp1996 | 2019-01-21 23:46:18 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
aig8ye | [Discussion] Thanks for the... Forcefield? | We had a bit of a snow last week... I had left my car with the heat turned on at work hoping to not have to scrape ice and snow off the car at the end of my day. Upon leaving it was clear that I didn t have to worry about Bramp sitting out in the cold for 9 hours... Took a picture of what looked like the car having formed some kind of shield against the weather. No significant snow or ice build up on the vehicle. It almost looked like a spherical force field had prevented anything from piling up around my car unlike the rest of my fellow employees who had to dig out. So I made a quick GIF of what I imagined was keeping the weather at bay... https: media.giphy.com media 58FDsdlm7LddVJtkYM giphy.gif Thanks Elon! :D | Rowzby | 2019-01-21 23:07:45 | 50 | eenkmxg | Why would you not just heat up the car 15 minutes before driving? | vdogg89 | 2019-01-21 23:57:10 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
aig8ye | [Discussion] Thanks for the... Forcefield? | We had a bit of a snow last week... I had left my car with the heat turned on at work hoping to not have to scrape ice and snow off the car at the end of my day. Upon leaving it was clear that I didn t have to worry about Bramp sitting out in the cold for 9 hours... Took a picture of what looked like the car having formed some kind of shield against the weather. No significant snow or ice build up on the vehicle. It almost looked like a spherical force field had prevented anything from piling up around my car unlike the rest of my fellow employees who had to dig out. So I made a quick GIF of what I imagined was keeping the weather at bay... https: media.giphy.com media 58FDsdlm7LddVJtkYM giphy.gif Thanks Elon! :D | Rowzby | 2019-01-21 23:07:45 | 50 | eeo6oop | This is obviously just the wind but it does look cool | noiamholmstar | 2019-01-22 04:51:51 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
aig8ye | [Discussion] Thanks for the... Forcefield? | We had a bit of a snow last week... I had left my car with the heat turned on at work hoping to not have to scrape ice and snow off the car at the end of my day. Upon leaving it was clear that I didn t have to worry about Bramp sitting out in the cold for 9 hours... Took a picture of what looked like the car having formed some kind of shield against the weather. No significant snow or ice build up on the vehicle. It almost looked like a spherical force field had prevented anything from piling up around my car unlike the rest of my fellow employees who had to dig out. So I made a quick GIF of what I imagined was keeping the weather at bay... https: media.giphy.com media 58FDsdlm7LddVJtkYM giphy.gif Thanks Elon! :D | Rowzby | 2019-01-21 23:07:45 | 50 | eenic0i | Whelp there go all the environmental savings. | xtothem | 2019-01-21 23:27:35 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
aig8ye | [Discussion] Thanks for the... Forcefield? | We had a bit of a snow last week... I had left my car with the heat turned on at work hoping to not have to scrape ice and snow off the car at the end of my day. Upon leaving it was clear that I didn t have to worry about Bramp sitting out in the cold for 9 hours... Took a picture of what looked like the car having formed some kind of shield against the weather. No significant snow or ice build up on the vehicle. It almost looked like a spherical force field had prevented anything from piling up around my car unlike the rest of my fellow employees who had to dig out. So I made a quick GIF of what I imagined was keeping the weather at bay... https: media.giphy.com media 58FDsdlm7LddVJtkYM giphy.gif Thanks Elon! :D | Rowzby | 2019-01-21 23:07:45 | 50 | eenw2s4 | How come there s no snow on the hood though? Must have been wind-driven right? | igbright | 2019-01-22 02:26:33 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8y9stg | [Discussion] The California EV tax rebate will run out of money in the next 2 months. | https: cleanvehiclerebate.org eng rebate-funding-status There is only around 30million left in the fund and they gave out 64 million in 4 months. It will likely be gone in 2 months. If you are getting your car soon make sure you get your refund application in immediately. | theangryburrito | 2018-07-12 13:32:18 | 29 | e295hms | I feel the struggle. Not from CA but MA and our funding only has 1.4 million left :( My delivery is sometime next month (hopefully) idk if I ll make it. | themindspeaks | 2018-07-12 13:37:04 | 5 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
9e4h3v | [Discussion] The Current Model 3 Motor is the Million Mile Drive Train | My points: * Tesla s goal is to accelerate sustainable transport you can t do this if you cars only last 250k miles if they can last 500k + that doubles their useful lifespan essentially speeding up how soon everyone has an electric car. * They mass produce these at scale Tesla will partner with SpaceX and the Boring company for drive train components. Aerospace reliability needs to be 2nd to none. Why put the development time into a separate low volume motor for a couple other companies? * I expect they won t do further substantial motor development and use the current Model 3 Motors in Model Y and potentially the Pickup as well. Edit: * u dualcitizen mentioned the Tesla Semi another great point! It uses 4 of Model 3 s motors. They guarantee the truck won t break down for 1 million miles noting that it can run on 2 motors. What does everyone else think? | mechrock | 2018-09-08 13:49:32 | 70 | e5m141q | I think they will continue developing and improving their electric motors for the forseeable future. They fairly recently opened an [R& D center](https: electrek.co 2018 02 24 tesla-electric-motor-research-group-greece ) specifically for this. | Teslaninja | 2018-09-08 14:05:01 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9e4h3v | [Discussion] The Current Model 3 Motor is the Million Mile Drive Train | My points: * Tesla s goal is to accelerate sustainable transport you can t do this if you cars only last 250k miles if they can last 500k + that doubles their useful lifespan essentially speeding up how soon everyone has an electric car. * They mass produce these at scale Tesla will partner with SpaceX and the Boring company for drive train components. Aerospace reliability needs to be 2nd to none. Why put the development time into a separate low volume motor for a couple other companies? * I expect they won t do further substantial motor development and use the current Model 3 Motors in Model Y and potentially the Pickup as well. Edit: * u dualcitizen mentioned the Tesla Semi another great point! It uses 4 of Model 3 s motors. They guarantee the truck won t break down for 1 million miles noting that it can run on 2 motors. What does everyone else think? | mechrock | 2018-09-08 13:49:32 | 70 | e5m6885 | > They guarantee the truck won t break down for 1 million miles That only means if the parts fail they will repair them. This could all be included in the cost of the truck. The earlier Model S motors failed prematurely and while those were redesigned the repair itself didn t look expensive at all. | __________z_________ | 2018-09-08 15:48:55 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9e4h3v | [Discussion] The Current Model 3 Motor is the Million Mile Drive Train | My points: * Tesla s goal is to accelerate sustainable transport you can t do this if you cars only last 250k miles if they can last 500k + that doubles their useful lifespan essentially speeding up how soon everyone has an electric car. * They mass produce these at scale Tesla will partner with SpaceX and the Boring company for drive train components. Aerospace reliability needs to be 2nd to none. Why put the development time into a separate low volume motor for a couple other companies? * I expect they won t do further substantial motor development and use the current Model 3 Motors in Model Y and potentially the Pickup as well. Edit: * u dualcitizen mentioned the Tesla Semi another great point! It uses 4 of Model 3 s motors. They guarantee the truck won t break down for 1 million miles noting that it can run on 2 motors. What does everyone else think? | mechrock | 2018-09-08 13:49:32 | 70 | e5m6u2u | If the Model 3 will be the backbone of the Tesla Network yes it makes perfectly sense too. Also it has been said that using silicon carbide inverter was fancy and it surely more expensive would it because of reliability for long-term use? (detail but it matters) Same question with military-grade electronics and Formula One-grade suspension system according to Munroe dissection effort... Elon justifies the last one with safety but it s maybe not the only one factor. | TechVelociraptor | 2018-09-08 15:59:22 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9e4h3v | [Discussion] The Current Model 3 Motor is the Million Mile Drive Train | My points: * Tesla s goal is to accelerate sustainable transport you can t do this if you cars only last 250k miles if they can last 500k + that doubles their useful lifespan essentially speeding up how soon everyone has an electric car. * They mass produce these at scale Tesla will partner with SpaceX and the Boring company for drive train components. Aerospace reliability needs to be 2nd to none. Why put the development time into a separate low volume motor for a couple other companies? * I expect they won t do further substantial motor development and use the current Model 3 Motors in Model Y and potentially the Pickup as well. Edit: * u dualcitizen mentioned the Tesla Semi another great point! It uses 4 of Model 3 s motors. They guarantee the truck won t break down for 1 million miles noting that it can run on 2 motors. What does everyone else think? | mechrock | 2018-09-08 13:49:32 | 70 | e5m71fy | They also seem to have made a whole axel swap an easy affair should they need to pull the rear motor. They can pull the back off drop it and slide in a whole new assembly easy. They can then re make the whole assembly and re use it. This is modular thinking. Things will break and issues will arise but I do think they thought this motor set through esp the rear unit. They have to have some serious eng time on this to be ok with putting it in long term service on a semi. I also hope they make replacement a field service item So a large ranger meets your truck for overnight sleep does the needed work you start your shift with a full charge and a repaired truck. | sziehr | 2018-09-08 16:03:00 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9e4h3v | [Discussion] The Current Model 3 Motor is the Million Mile Drive Train | My points: * Tesla s goal is to accelerate sustainable transport you can t do this if you cars only last 250k miles if they can last 500k + that doubles their useful lifespan essentially speeding up how soon everyone has an electric car. * They mass produce these at scale Tesla will partner with SpaceX and the Boring company for drive train components. Aerospace reliability needs to be 2nd to none. Why put the development time into a separate low volume motor for a couple other companies? * I expect they won t do further substantial motor development and use the current Model 3 Motors in Model Y and potentially the Pickup as well. Edit: * u dualcitizen mentioned the Tesla Semi another great point! It uses 4 of Model 3 s motors. They guarantee the truck won t break down for 1 million miles noting that it can run on 2 motors. What does everyone else think? | mechrock | 2018-09-08 13:49:32 | 70 | e5m0y6q | Not to mention they used the model 3 hardware for the Semi which would potentially be their highest expected mileage platform. | dualcitizen | 2018-09-08 14:01:39 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
jgfp3n | [Discussion] The FSD subscription could be mileage based. | I just wanted to point this out. A FSD subscription has long been rumored and last night Elon Musk confirmed it. Everybody jumps straight to the conclusion that this would be an expensive $200-$300+ monthly fee. I think this is too pricey for people out there to try but not keep in the end. There s a couple other options off the top of my head. First the subscription could be miles based. For example Buy 500 FSD miles or Refer a friend for 1000 FSD miles . It could also be charged daily. Pretend you have a road trip planned to an unfamiliar city. You could purchase 7 days of FSD for $75 for your trip. Both of these options could also serve as a so called demand lever for end of quarter deliveries if Tesla were to ever need one. Although these other options sound more freemium it would make it a whole lot more affordable. What do you think Tesla will do? | asimo3089 | 2020-10-23 04:01:06 | 19 | g9q7w6w | Selling a lifetime license (per car) generates revenue. A subscription service would have to have the same purpose. While your proposal might be better cheaper more flexible for the consumer Tesla is a business and must price its product accordingly. They already confirmed it would be on a monthly basis I would be shocked if it were less than $100- I think $150 is more likely. | Packerfan735 | 2020-10-23 04:16:27 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
8d9ctb | [Discussion] The Tesla Model 3 battery costs around $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall alone costs around $437 kWh. What are some factors in why these costs are so different? | In the 75 kWh version of the Tesla Model 3 the estimated price of the battery is $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall costs $5900 alone without installation inverter and other fees. Using this base price and the size of the battery pack(13.5 kWh) it costs around $437 kWh. I would imagine the Tesla Model 3 Battery pack is more advanced and with tighter engineering controls and quality assurance made because of the strict requirements it acts under. Whereas the powerwall acts under less demanding conditions and has predictable behavior I was hoping someone could shed some light on what factors contribute to more than double the price for the powerwall. | Lajamerr_Mittesdine | 2018-04-18 21:29:54 | 35 | dxlavco | I speak without having any specific knowledge but I would guess two of the reasons are: 1) Economies of scale. They re going to be producing way more car batteries than powewalls and the car batteries have a single destination — the Fremont factory. 2) All companies don t charge based on cost of goods they charge what people are willing to pay and then they try to find the sweet spot between cost vs. how many will buy at that cost. | MartyBecker | 2018-04-18 21:34:38 | 25 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
8d9ctb | [Discussion] The Tesla Model 3 battery costs around $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall alone costs around $437 kWh. What are some factors in why these costs are so different? | In the 75 kWh version of the Tesla Model 3 the estimated price of the battery is $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall costs $5900 alone without installation inverter and other fees. Using this base price and the size of the battery pack(13.5 kWh) it costs around $437 kWh. I would imagine the Tesla Model 3 Battery pack is more advanced and with tighter engineering controls and quality assurance made because of the strict requirements it acts under. Whereas the powerwall acts under less demanding conditions and has predictable behavior I was hoping someone could shed some light on what factors contribute to more than double the price for the powerwall. | Lajamerr_Mittesdine | 2018-04-18 21:29:54 | 35 | dxlh33j | The powerwall 2 includes a 5kw inverter if I m not mistaken. That s not an insignificant difference. Let s say that s $2000 of the cost and then the battery starts to get a lot closer. | Sertisy | 2018-04-18 23:19:04 | 14 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
8d9ctb | [Discussion] The Tesla Model 3 battery costs around $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall alone costs around $437 kWh. What are some factors in why these costs are so different? | In the 75 kWh version of the Tesla Model 3 the estimated price of the battery is $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall costs $5900 alone without installation inverter and other fees. Using this base price and the size of the battery pack(13.5 kWh) it costs around $437 kWh. I would imagine the Tesla Model 3 Battery pack is more advanced and with tighter engineering controls and quality assurance made because of the strict requirements it acts under. Whereas the powerwall acts under less demanding conditions and has predictable behavior I was hoping someone could shed some light on what factors contribute to more than double the price for the powerwall. | Lajamerr_Mittesdine | 2018-04-18 21:29:54 | 35 | dxlcsgw | Warranty is a big one. Even though the chemistry is different the Powerwall cells have to endure a lot more cycles than the Model 3 ones. And there isn t any additional profit from the entire car to cover the warranty with. So that explains a big part of the difference. | MacGyverBE | 2018-04-18 22:05:14 | 10 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
8d9ctb | [Discussion] The Tesla Model 3 battery costs around $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall alone costs around $437 kWh. What are some factors in why these costs are so different? | In the 75 kWh version of the Tesla Model 3 the estimated price of the battery is $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall costs $5900 alone without installation inverter and other fees. Using this base price and the size of the battery pack(13.5 kWh) it costs around $437 kWh. I would imagine the Tesla Model 3 Battery pack is more advanced and with tighter engineering controls and quality assurance made because of the strict requirements it acts under. Whereas the powerwall acts under less demanding conditions and has predictable behavior I was hoping someone could shed some light on what factors contribute to more than double the price for the powerwall. | Lajamerr_Mittesdine | 2018-04-18 21:29:54 | 35 | dxlfidg | You re comparing the price of a product to the price of battery. The price of a powerwall consist of many things while the battery price estimate you got from some report is only about battery. | yzdedream | 2018-04-18 22:51:13 | 7 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
8d9ctb | [Discussion] The Tesla Model 3 battery costs around $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall alone costs around $437 kWh. What are some factors in why these costs are so different? | In the 75 kWh version of the Tesla Model 3 the estimated price of the battery is $190 kWh. The Tesla Powerwall costs $5900 alone without installation inverter and other fees. Using this base price and the size of the battery pack(13.5 kWh) it costs around $437 kWh. I would imagine the Tesla Model 3 Battery pack is more advanced and with tighter engineering controls and quality assurance made because of the strict requirements it acts under. Whereas the powerwall acts under less demanding conditions and has predictable behavior I was hoping someone could shed some light on what factors contribute to more than double the price for the powerwall. | Lajamerr_Mittesdine | 2018-04-18 21:29:54 | 35 | dxm8vg7 | I think that $190 kWh is too conservative they are likely under $150 kWh by now. I also think they are pricing the PowerWall higher per kWh as an anti sale since they can t keep up with demand for the cars yet they have bigger consumers for the PowerPacks and they plan to expand car production over 10 times what they made last year. | chilltrek97 | 2018-04-19 09:58:34 | 5 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
87hv3s | [Discussion] The cheapest oldest Tesla... Worth it or has the performance and AP etc moved on too far? | So there s an outside chance that my wife s work may allow her a Tesla for a company car. The cheapest used model S in the UK right now are circa £35-40k typically an 2014 E85. So my question is this has the autopilot technology moved far enough that an early model is largely pointless? Does less power acceleration and range take the fun out if it? Am I missing the latest software or app or other additional features? Would love to hear thoughts of those with experience Edit: many thanks for responses very useful and appreciated. I ll go back to lurking until I get my hands on one | Silverfishii | 2018-03-27 12:07:12 | 26 | dwczlzd | There are two *very different* comparisons to make: How does an old Tesla compare to newer Teslas? They are older and have some features missing. The very oldest ones won t have AP at all and they are likely to lack some other amenities. However OTA updates should keep the car relatively up-to-date software-wise and my understanding is that the app works on everything. The car is older so the interface is likely a little slower there may be more maintenance issues and there will be some battery degradation. The question then becomes: would improving those things (by buying a newer Tesla) be worth the price? That is a question that only you can answer. The other and likely more relevant question: how does an older Tesla compare to another vehicle that you could buy for around £35-40k? I d be willing to bet that while the older Tesla lacks some of the newer features it is substantially better than the ICE vehicle that you are comparing it to. For this question whether or not Tesla has released *any* vehicle since the one you are considering is irrelevant. The expected Model S refresh could include the ability to fly to the moon and that wouldn t change what the older model could do at all -- or importantly how it compares to a £35-40k ICE. | pete3442 | 2018-03-27 13:05:47 | 12 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
87hv3s | [Discussion] The cheapest oldest Tesla... Worth it or has the performance and AP etc moved on too far? | So there s an outside chance that my wife s work may allow her a Tesla for a company car. The cheapest used model S in the UK right now are circa £35-40k typically an 2014 E85. So my question is this has the autopilot technology moved far enough that an early model is largely pointless? Does less power acceleration and range take the fun out if it? Am I missing the latest software or app or other additional features? Would love to hear thoughts of those with experience Edit: many thanks for responses very useful and appreciated. I ll go back to lurking until I get my hands on one | Silverfishii | 2018-03-27 12:07:12 | 26 | dwdbh83 | Either one is a winner to be honest. If someone gave me the choice between a brand new BMW 7 series or a used Tesla without any of the autopilot or TACC features I d take the Tesla in a heartbeat. | SuperPCUserName | 2018-03-27 16:22:23 | 6 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
87hv3s | [Discussion] The cheapest oldest Tesla... Worth it or has the performance and AP etc moved on too far? | So there s an outside chance that my wife s work may allow her a Tesla for a company car. The cheapest used model S in the UK right now are circa £35-40k typically an 2014 E85. So my question is this has the autopilot technology moved far enough that an early model is largely pointless? Does less power acceleration and range take the fun out if it? Am I missing the latest software or app or other additional features? Would love to hear thoughts of those with experience Edit: many thanks for responses very useful and appreciated. I ll go back to lurking until I get my hands on one | Silverfishii | 2018-03-27 12:07:12 | 26 | dwd4pvm | An AP1 car is still better than everything else out there. I use it every day and it s fantastic. | _ohm_my | 2018-03-27 14:38:34 | 5 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
87hv3s | [Discussion] The cheapest oldest Tesla... Worth it or has the performance and AP etc moved on too far? | So there s an outside chance that my wife s work may allow her a Tesla for a company car. The cheapest used model S in the UK right now are circa £35-40k typically an 2014 E85. So my question is this has the autopilot technology moved far enough that an early model is largely pointless? Does less power acceleration and range take the fun out if it? Am I missing the latest software or app or other additional features? Would love to hear thoughts of those with experience Edit: many thanks for responses very useful and appreciated. I ll go back to lurking until I get my hands on one | Silverfishii | 2018-03-27 12:07:12 | 26 | dwd7kmu | I have a 2014 P85 Model S. It blows away everything on the road including a new Bentley. It is a joy to drive and getting a free charge now and then is a big bonus. After I test drove a P100D I decided that maybe 750 horsepower wasn t really necessary. I “settled “ for 500 horsepower. Don t know what I would do with the Ludicrous power except give passengers worse whiplash. I have had a few minor maintenance issues but Tesla has mobile service so I ve never gone into the shop. I would buy another one definitely used in a heartbeat. I saved $50 000 over a new one. | drphrednuke | 2018-03-27 15:23:47 | 5 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
9au5fq | [Discussion] The delivery adviser experience | I m wondering how others feel about their delivery adviser experience. From my experience it s been going pretty poorly. I live in Rhode Island so I may have questions that aren t seen often but I would expect that the advisers either know what they are talking about or get the right answers. Since I need to vent and get your experiences here s a few items that have irked me so far: 1. Me: Does Tesla offer home charging install in my area? Adviser: No we don t have regional installations managers. Me: So I go on their website see home installation is available in my area and start the process with Tesla s home charging team directly.. 2. Over email I get transferred to a new advisor who handles home delivery (without my asking). He should have reached out by the end of the day but doesn t reach out for over a week until I send a follow up email to the original advisor asking what s happening. 3. The home delivery advisor s first email suggests I don t call him since he s very busy and that I should utilize service center pick up instead (!!!). As I d prefer service center pickup I ask him if I can pickup at a Massachusetts service center and he says that I can t since I live in Rhode Island. 4. Me: Is the RI tax included in the car price you have listed n my account. Advisor: Oh no we have Massachusetts tax listed on your vehicle. Please disregard and we ll update it closer to delivery date. 5. Me: How do you handle registration of the new car with a trade in? Do you register the new car or transfer registration? Adviser: We don t have a license to sell in RI so you need to handle all of that yourself. Me: If you don t have a license to sell how are you selling me the car? I ve read in the news you have license to sell in RI. On the Tesla website it says registration would be handled by Tesla: https: www.tesla.com en_AE support registration The Tesla website even made me fill out the registration details you would use. I m waiting to hear back from the advisor on the last point. Is this experience unique to me or are other s having such a bad time too? Is there some sort of escalation path to follow to have more confidence I m getting the right answers from the adviser? | mikejuly24 | 2018-08-28 00:06:51 | 24 | e4y6wpq | Communication I would rate as terrible but it s essentially one-sided and non-existent at this point. So I have to agree. Just hope my car is relatively issue free and I don t have to deal with much support wise until things cool down a bit. | beepbopbeepitybop | 2018-08-28 00:56:48 | 12 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9au5fq | [Discussion] The delivery adviser experience | I m wondering how others feel about their delivery adviser experience. From my experience it s been going pretty poorly. I live in Rhode Island so I may have questions that aren t seen often but I would expect that the advisers either know what they are talking about or get the right answers. Since I need to vent and get your experiences here s a few items that have irked me so far: 1. Me: Does Tesla offer home charging install in my area? Adviser: No we don t have regional installations managers. Me: So I go on their website see home installation is available in my area and start the process with Tesla s home charging team directly.. 2. Over email I get transferred to a new advisor who handles home delivery (without my asking). He should have reached out by the end of the day but doesn t reach out for over a week until I send a follow up email to the original advisor asking what s happening. 3. The home delivery advisor s first email suggests I don t call him since he s very busy and that I should utilize service center pick up instead (!!!). As I d prefer service center pickup I ask him if I can pickup at a Massachusetts service center and he says that I can t since I live in Rhode Island. 4. Me: Is the RI tax included in the car price you have listed n my account. Advisor: Oh no we have Massachusetts tax listed on your vehicle. Please disregard and we ll update it closer to delivery date. 5. Me: How do you handle registration of the new car with a trade in? Do you register the new car or transfer registration? Adviser: We don t have a license to sell in RI so you need to handle all of that yourself. Me: If you don t have a license to sell how are you selling me the car? I ve read in the news you have license to sell in RI. On the Tesla website it says registration would be handled by Tesla: https: www.tesla.com en_AE support registration The Tesla website even made me fill out the registration details you would use. I m waiting to hear back from the advisor on the last point. Is this experience unique to me or are other s having such a bad time too? Is there some sort of escalation path to follow to have more confidence I m getting the right answers from the adviser? | mikejuly24 | 2018-08-28 00:06:51 | 24 | e4y6esb | Yeah. I haven t had many issues but the lack of communication is there for me. We re going back and forth on what I need to do with my bank and trade in. I ll get an email that sparks a new question but my question email doesn t get a response for a day or two. She ll ask me something and I ll immediately reply but don t get her response until the next day or two. So what would be easily accomplished in a quick phone call is taking multiple days of back and forth with a lot of copied and pasted canned responses that aren t really applicable to what I asked. She also has suggested I don t call her. | EasyDoesItDoesntIt | 2018-08-28 00:48:03 | 11 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9au5fq | [Discussion] The delivery adviser experience | I m wondering how others feel about their delivery adviser experience. From my experience it s been going pretty poorly. I live in Rhode Island so I may have questions that aren t seen often but I would expect that the advisers either know what they are talking about or get the right answers. Since I need to vent and get your experiences here s a few items that have irked me so far: 1. Me: Does Tesla offer home charging install in my area? Adviser: No we don t have regional installations managers. Me: So I go on their website see home installation is available in my area and start the process with Tesla s home charging team directly.. 2. Over email I get transferred to a new advisor who handles home delivery (without my asking). He should have reached out by the end of the day but doesn t reach out for over a week until I send a follow up email to the original advisor asking what s happening. 3. The home delivery advisor s first email suggests I don t call him since he s very busy and that I should utilize service center pick up instead (!!!). As I d prefer service center pickup I ask him if I can pickup at a Massachusetts service center and he says that I can t since I live in Rhode Island. 4. Me: Is the RI tax included in the car price you have listed n my account. Advisor: Oh no we have Massachusetts tax listed on your vehicle. Please disregard and we ll update it closer to delivery date. 5. Me: How do you handle registration of the new car with a trade in? Do you register the new car or transfer registration? Adviser: We don t have a license to sell in RI so you need to handle all of that yourself. Me: If you don t have a license to sell how are you selling me the car? I ve read in the news you have license to sell in RI. On the Tesla website it says registration would be handled by Tesla: https: www.tesla.com en_AE support registration The Tesla website even made me fill out the registration details you would use. I m waiting to hear back from the advisor on the last point. Is this experience unique to me or are other s having such a bad time too? Is there some sort of escalation path to follow to have more confidence I m getting the right answers from the adviser? | mikejuly24 | 2018-08-28 00:06:51 | 24 | e4y8wun | My IDA is a champ. Never waited more than 12 hours for an email response (I typically email in the evenings etc.) I m literally planning on sending milk and cookies from a local shop to the Texas Delivery Team. | chucknorrisinator | 2018-08-28 01:31:20 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
9au5fq | [Discussion] The delivery adviser experience | I m wondering how others feel about their delivery adviser experience. From my experience it s been going pretty poorly. I live in Rhode Island so I may have questions that aren t seen often but I would expect that the advisers either know what they are talking about or get the right answers. Since I need to vent and get your experiences here s a few items that have irked me so far: 1. Me: Does Tesla offer home charging install in my area? Adviser: No we don t have regional installations managers. Me: So I go on their website see home installation is available in my area and start the process with Tesla s home charging team directly.. 2. Over email I get transferred to a new advisor who handles home delivery (without my asking). He should have reached out by the end of the day but doesn t reach out for over a week until I send a follow up email to the original advisor asking what s happening. 3. The home delivery advisor s first email suggests I don t call him since he s very busy and that I should utilize service center pick up instead (!!!). As I d prefer service center pickup I ask him if I can pickup at a Massachusetts service center and he says that I can t since I live in Rhode Island. 4. Me: Is the RI tax included in the car price you have listed n my account. Advisor: Oh no we have Massachusetts tax listed on your vehicle. Please disregard and we ll update it closer to delivery date. 5. Me: How do you handle registration of the new car with a trade in? Do you register the new car or transfer registration? Adviser: We don t have a license to sell in RI so you need to handle all of that yourself. Me: If you don t have a license to sell how are you selling me the car? I ve read in the news you have license to sell in RI. On the Tesla website it says registration would be handled by Tesla: https: www.tesla.com en_AE support registration The Tesla website even made me fill out the registration details you would use. I m waiting to hear back from the advisor on the last point. Is this experience unique to me or are other s having such a bad time too? Is there some sort of escalation path to follow to have more confidence I m getting the right answers from the adviser? | mikejuly24 | 2018-08-28 00:06:51 | 24 | e4y9xeo | I googled and found this: https: www.wpri.com news local-news tesla-cleared-to-open-first-ri-dealership-in-warwick 1082539067 Apparently there is a state law that prohibits selling directly to the customer but that a loophole exists? Did the store ever get built? I m seeing a pattern of poor service reports in this subreddit from the states that make things difficult for Tesla. There was an interesting number at the end -- as of that report (Jan 10 2018) there were only 56 registered Tesla owners in RI. I wonder if they have the facilities to handle the rush of M3s? Edit: Found this... apparently Tesla pulled the plug on the store: https: turnto10.com news local tesla-showroom-in-warwick-on-hold | __________z_________ | 2018-08-28 01:48:40 | 5 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
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