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8sl38m | [Discussion] Should Business Insider retract their story about punctured batteries being used in Tesla vehicles? | Business Insider ran a story recently about punctured battery cells being used in Tesla cars as well as huge amounts of scrap at the Gigafactory. They stated employees as sources and it now seems likely Tripp is their source. | ThatIsMrDickHead2You | 2018-06-20 19:14:48 | 174 | e10u0q1 | One thing to point out here I have not seen any evidence to back up what Telsa says. Sure they d have real balls to make this shit up but Business Insider should have no compulsion to retract a story till they have something more than just Tesla s word for it that its BS. On the flip side if what Tesla said is true and the story was purely based on what this one guy said they also should never have printed it in the first place. Its amazing what people will do for clicks! | andygen21 | 2018-06-21 00:47:40 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8sl38m | [Discussion] Should Business Insider retract their story about punctured batteries being used in Tesla vehicles? | Business Insider ran a story recently about punctured battery cells being used in Tesla cars as well as huge amounts of scrap at the Gigafactory. They stated employees as sources and it now seems likely Tripp is their source. | ThatIsMrDickHead2You | 2018-06-20 19:14:48 | 174 | e109c8f | They said they had internal documents proving the cells were used in cars. If that s the case then no they absolutely should not retract that story. Just because a company claims something doesn t make it true. | jetshockeyfan | 2018-06-20 19:27:16 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8sl38m | [Discussion] Should Business Insider retract their story about punctured batteries being used in Tesla vehicles? | Business Insider ran a story recently about punctured battery cells being used in Tesla cars as well as huge amounts of scrap at the Gigafactory. They stated employees as sources and it now seems likely Tripp is their source. | ThatIsMrDickHead2You | 2018-06-20 19:14:48 | 174 | e11ht88 | No. What *should* happen is the alleged VINs be sent to the NHTSA who pull the cars in for an independent inspection. The lawyers can take it from there in whichever direction the inspection results warrant. | PSMF_Canuck | 2018-06-21 10:36:00 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
av95fd | [Discussion] Should I charge my Model 3 overnight if temperatures are below 0 Degrees Celsius? | Location: Toronto I believe it is best to have the car plugged in overnight and charging so that it isn t cold in the morning and doesn t need to be warmed up and also to maximize the health of the battery than let it sit out in the cold. Currently we are leaving it plugged in but are using scheduled charging for off-peak hours. Previously the car was being left in the garage but not plugged in as their reasoning was that it counts as a charge cycle which is not necessarily true. PS: Could someone perhaps help me understand how the warming of the battery works for the Model 3 as I understand it s different from the Model S. Or perhaps provide any links to help out? It would be much appreciated! PS: And could some fellow Canadians give some tips on how their Model 3 is doing in the Winter? Thanks for the help! | Blazinhot7 | 2019-02-27 04:28:46 | 23 | ehdml9s | > Should I charge my Model 3 overnight if temperatures are below 0 Degrees Celsius? Yes. > as their reasoning was that it counts as a charge cycle but I don t think that is necessarily true. That isn t only not true and a misunderstanding of a cycle (which is the total equivalent of a full drain and charge) but it disagrees with the manual. From P. 122: About the Battery > Model 3 has one of the most sophisticated battery systems in the world. The mostimportant way to preserve the Battery is to LEAVE YOUR VEHICLE PLUGGED IN when you are not using it. This is particularly important if you are not planning to drive Model 3 for several weeks. When plugged in Model 3 wakes up when needed to automatically maintain a charge level that maximizes the lifetime of the Battery. (Emphasis from Tesla) So not only were they wrong about the cycle life but Tesla clearly states that leaving the vehicle plugged in allows it to automatically maintain a charge level that maximizes the lifetime of the Battery . Just leave it plugged in. | drdabbles | 2019-02-27 05:57:40 | 23 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
av95fd | [Discussion] Should I charge my Model 3 overnight if temperatures are below 0 Degrees Celsius? | Location: Toronto I believe it is best to have the car plugged in overnight and charging so that it isn t cold in the morning and doesn t need to be warmed up and also to maximize the health of the battery than let it sit out in the cold. Currently we are leaving it plugged in but are using scheduled charging for off-peak hours. Previously the car was being left in the garage but not plugged in as their reasoning was that it counts as a charge cycle which is not necessarily true. PS: Could someone perhaps help me understand how the warming of the battery works for the Model 3 as I understand it s different from the Model S. Or perhaps provide any links to help out? It would be much appreciated! PS: And could some fellow Canadians give some tips on how their Model 3 is doing in the Winter? Thanks for the help! | Blazinhot7 | 2019-02-27 04:28:46 | 23 | ehe2ral | long answer: yes short answer: ya | Electric_Luv | 2019-02-27 12:34:01 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
992nrq | [Discussion] Showing a Model 3 at a car show | I have started thinking about widening the ways in which I share my excitement about Tesla with others and I might begin to attend car shows so more people can see it. So I started thinking about the best way to do that. So far I ve thought of the following areas. Please feel free to add ideas or refine the ones below. **Secure the car** I think the best way to secure the car is to put the car in showroom mode ([discussed here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8z1r6t how_to_enter_your_tesla_into_showroom_mode )) and turn off the bluetooth on your mobile phone so the car doesn t sense any authorized keys nearby. You may also want to put the car in Valet mode to prevent anyone from seeing stored SatNav locations like Home or Work . Some owners may feel comfortable allowing viewers to enter the car other (old) threads in other forums also suggest creating a new driver profile with the driver seat in a position that might accommodate viewers (if the owner is quite short or tall). **Advertise the features** Many cars at car shows have an acrylic placard nearby to describe the car s details features and interesting facts. I think that would be a great opportunity to talk about facts like: it s made in the USA charging times range efficiency horsepower torque ratings 0-60mph times weight cost of ownership details local map of superchargers public chargers and maybe your referral link if seeing the car pushes their buying decision over the edge. Maybe you d always want to bring the UMC to show how the car connects to a charger. Are there are talented graphic designers who have made something like this already? **Defeat the haters** I imagine that every car show will have some petrol heads who believe that EVs are worse for the environment than ICEs. You can be ready for these conversations by knowing how most of the electricity in your local grid is generated (most places aren t burning coal any more) and how much energy it takes to refine a gallon of gasoline ([this thread says 6kwh](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums how-display-car-show)). | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-08-21 12:14:22 | 32 | e4kgsie | EVs are so efficient even if the power came from a coal plant still is better overall with emissions. | dizzy113 | 2018-08-21 13:01:40 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
992nrq | [Discussion] Showing a Model 3 at a car show | I have started thinking about widening the ways in which I share my excitement about Tesla with others and I might begin to attend car shows so more people can see it. So I started thinking about the best way to do that. So far I ve thought of the following areas. Please feel free to add ideas or refine the ones below. **Secure the car** I think the best way to secure the car is to put the car in showroom mode ([discussed here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8z1r6t how_to_enter_your_tesla_into_showroom_mode )) and turn off the bluetooth on your mobile phone so the car doesn t sense any authorized keys nearby. You may also want to put the car in Valet mode to prevent anyone from seeing stored SatNav locations like Home or Work . Some owners may feel comfortable allowing viewers to enter the car other (old) threads in other forums also suggest creating a new driver profile with the driver seat in a position that might accommodate viewers (if the owner is quite short or tall). **Advertise the features** Many cars at car shows have an acrylic placard nearby to describe the car s details features and interesting facts. I think that would be a great opportunity to talk about facts like: it s made in the USA charging times range efficiency horsepower torque ratings 0-60mph times weight cost of ownership details local map of superchargers public chargers and maybe your referral link if seeing the car pushes their buying decision over the edge. Maybe you d always want to bring the UMC to show how the car connects to a charger. Are there are talented graphic designers who have made something like this already? **Defeat the haters** I imagine that every car show will have some petrol heads who believe that EVs are worse for the environment than ICEs. You can be ready for these conversations by knowing how most of the electricity in your local grid is generated (most places aren t burning coal any more) and how much energy it takes to refine a gallon of gasoline ([this thread says 6kwh](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums how-display-car-show)). | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-08-21 12:14:22 | 32 | e4kg4aw | Focus primarily on the features that compare it to all vehicles. EV stats can be included but what you want to show is that it s an amazing car not just an amazing EV. 0-60 top speed cost MPGe safety features convenience features etc. | purestevil | 2018-08-21 12:48:26 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
992nrq | [Discussion] Showing a Model 3 at a car show | I have started thinking about widening the ways in which I share my excitement about Tesla with others and I might begin to attend car shows so more people can see it. So I started thinking about the best way to do that. So far I ve thought of the following areas. Please feel free to add ideas or refine the ones below. **Secure the car** I think the best way to secure the car is to put the car in showroom mode ([discussed here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8z1r6t how_to_enter_your_tesla_into_showroom_mode )) and turn off the bluetooth on your mobile phone so the car doesn t sense any authorized keys nearby. You may also want to put the car in Valet mode to prevent anyone from seeing stored SatNav locations like Home or Work . Some owners may feel comfortable allowing viewers to enter the car other (old) threads in other forums also suggest creating a new driver profile with the driver seat in a position that might accommodate viewers (if the owner is quite short or tall). **Advertise the features** Many cars at car shows have an acrylic placard nearby to describe the car s details features and interesting facts. I think that would be a great opportunity to talk about facts like: it s made in the USA charging times range efficiency horsepower torque ratings 0-60mph times weight cost of ownership details local map of superchargers public chargers and maybe your referral link if seeing the car pushes their buying decision over the edge. Maybe you d always want to bring the UMC to show how the car connects to a charger. Are there are talented graphic designers who have made something like this already? **Defeat the haters** I imagine that every car show will have some petrol heads who believe that EVs are worse for the environment than ICEs. You can be ready for these conversations by knowing how most of the electricity in your local grid is generated (most places aren t burning coal any more) and how much energy it takes to refine a gallon of gasoline ([this thread says 6kwh](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums how-display-car-show)). | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-08-21 12:14:22 | 32 | e4kuxae | Learn from my mistake: remove all personal items from the car first. Some kid stole my sunglasses from the door pocket. Smh. | alle0441 | 2018-08-21 16:35:18 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
992nrq | [Discussion] Showing a Model 3 at a car show | I have started thinking about widening the ways in which I share my excitement about Tesla with others and I might begin to attend car shows so more people can see it. So I started thinking about the best way to do that. So far I ve thought of the following areas. Please feel free to add ideas or refine the ones below. **Secure the car** I think the best way to secure the car is to put the car in showroom mode ([discussed here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8z1r6t how_to_enter_your_tesla_into_showroom_mode )) and turn off the bluetooth on your mobile phone so the car doesn t sense any authorized keys nearby. You may also want to put the car in Valet mode to prevent anyone from seeing stored SatNav locations like Home or Work . Some owners may feel comfortable allowing viewers to enter the car other (old) threads in other forums also suggest creating a new driver profile with the driver seat in a position that might accommodate viewers (if the owner is quite short or tall). **Advertise the features** Many cars at car shows have an acrylic placard nearby to describe the car s details features and interesting facts. I think that would be a great opportunity to talk about facts like: it s made in the USA charging times range efficiency horsepower torque ratings 0-60mph times weight cost of ownership details local map of superchargers public chargers and maybe your referral link if seeing the car pushes their buying decision over the edge. Maybe you d always want to bring the UMC to show how the car connects to a charger. Are there are talented graphic designers who have made something like this already? **Defeat the haters** I imagine that every car show will have some petrol heads who believe that EVs are worse for the environment than ICEs. You can be ready for these conversations by knowing how most of the electricity in your local grid is generated (most places aren t burning coal any more) and how much energy it takes to refine a gallon of gasoline ([this thread says 6kwh](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums how-display-car-show)). | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-08-21 12:14:22 | 32 | e4kh2f1 | We have a car show in town next month (I live in a tiny rural Midwestern town of 1600 which is a few miles from a city of 12 000) and I m going to take my model 3. I have no idea what to expect but it will be interesting. | MartyBecker | 2018-08-21 13:06:58 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
992nrq | [Discussion] Showing a Model 3 at a car show | I have started thinking about widening the ways in which I share my excitement about Tesla with others and I might begin to attend car shows so more people can see it. So I started thinking about the best way to do that. So far I ve thought of the following areas. Please feel free to add ideas or refine the ones below. **Secure the car** I think the best way to secure the car is to put the car in showroom mode ([discussed here](https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8z1r6t how_to_enter_your_tesla_into_showroom_mode )) and turn off the bluetooth on your mobile phone so the car doesn t sense any authorized keys nearby. You may also want to put the car in Valet mode to prevent anyone from seeing stored SatNav locations like Home or Work . Some owners may feel comfortable allowing viewers to enter the car other (old) threads in other forums also suggest creating a new driver profile with the driver seat in a position that might accommodate viewers (if the owner is quite short or tall). **Advertise the features** Many cars at car shows have an acrylic placard nearby to describe the car s details features and interesting facts. I think that would be a great opportunity to talk about facts like: it s made in the USA charging times range efficiency horsepower torque ratings 0-60mph times weight cost of ownership details local map of superchargers public chargers and maybe your referral link if seeing the car pushes their buying decision over the edge. Maybe you d always want to bring the UMC to show how the car connects to a charger. Are there are talented graphic designers who have made something like this already? **Defeat the haters** I imagine that every car show will have some petrol heads who believe that EVs are worse for the environment than ICEs. You can be ready for these conversations by knowing how most of the electricity in your local grid is generated (most places aren t burning coal any more) and how much energy it takes to refine a gallon of gasoline ([this thread says 6kwh](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums how-display-car-show)). | TheNewJasonBourne | 2018-08-21 12:14:22 | 32 | e4la3s0 | I ve been a car enthusiast for a long time and have attended a fair few of these casual cars & coffee type of car shows. First of all most of the people there will be car enthusiasts and they tend to be pretty respectful of other people s property because they are protective of their own. I ve never seen anyone try to sit in or otherwise mess with other people s cars. Second though don t expect too much-- I ve seen Teslas at these events before and they haven t attracted much attention. Keep in mind that the audience there are car enthusiasts not the general public and not tech geeks. They gravitate to the V8 muscle cars mostly. Well-restored classics are going to get the most attention. I saw a Model X at one and the owner kept opening and closing the falcon doors and he got a few people to watch but most just walked on by. So I d say just go have a good time and don t overthink it. Nobody s going to damage your car but you re not likely to change the world either. | Gilclunk | 2018-08-21 20:06:45 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9y92jj | [Discussion] Silly reasons support gave for slow supercharging expected rates in moderate cold | 1. You set your charge stop point at 80% so it goes slower. 2. The state of Illinois limits it to 60kwh. Look at this page about supercharger tiered pricing. 3. The supercharger cable was cold. It s common knowledge around here that Tesla phone support is not very helpful but come on now. It doesn t take much training to know that those are silly answers (I don t know with certainty about #3 but that doesn t pass the smell test). These came from two reps in consultation with people not on the phone. My issue was I had a 20-25% charge on a Model 3 it was 31F 0C outside charged at home at 32 Amps for 30-40 minutes with full regen and no snowflake icon before leaving then drove 45 minutes averaging 30 mph before getting to the charger. I was the only person there touched 80 kW for a handful of seconds and then never went above 62 kW. I just want to know if that is an acceptable rate given all the variables or if I have an issue. I m going on a 2 500mi road trip in a couple weeks and I m worried. This was my third experiment and I ve never gotten a sustained rate over about 60 kW (my first two experiments weren t as controlled but I did try different stalls). | kkal82 | 2018-11-18 19:46:47 | 16 | e9zlrx6 | This is my first winter with a Tesla and I am getting similar rates on superchargers when it is around 30°F | NotLake | 2018-11-18 19:58:07 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9y92jj | [Discussion] Silly reasons support gave for slow supercharging expected rates in moderate cold | 1. You set your charge stop point at 80% so it goes slower. 2. The state of Illinois limits it to 60kwh. Look at this page about supercharger tiered pricing. 3. The supercharger cable was cold. It s common knowledge around here that Tesla phone support is not very helpful but come on now. It doesn t take much training to know that those are silly answers (I don t know with certainty about #3 but that doesn t pass the smell test). These came from two reps in consultation with people not on the phone. My issue was I had a 20-25% charge on a Model 3 it was 31F 0C outside charged at home at 32 Amps for 30-40 minutes with full regen and no snowflake icon before leaving then drove 45 minutes averaging 30 mph before getting to the charger. I was the only person there touched 80 kW for a handful of seconds and then never went above 62 kW. I just want to know if that is an acceptable rate given all the variables or if I have an issue. I m going on a 2 500mi road trip in a couple weeks and I m worried. This was my third experiment and I ve never gotten a sustained rate over about 60 kW (my first two experiments weren t as controlled but I did try different stalls). | kkal82 | 2018-11-18 19:46:47 | 16 | e9zokb9 | Some superchargers are known to be slow. Tesla has never given a straight answer other than we ll fix it . We don t know what the reason is for this issue. It is possible that some of the chargers inside the supercharger are not functioning. | lambaus | 2018-11-18 20:27:28 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9d9n3s | [Discussion] Since I know we all have friends and family skeptical buying a Tesla in general can we create a list of reasons why you bought or regret your Tesla? (Pros Cons) | **Pros**: - Performance (Instant torque instant acceleration handling.) - Emission Free - No more trips to the gas station (if you plug it in at night daily) - Regenerative braking - Cheaper to maintain than similarly priced gas cars (Brakes last longer because of regenerative braking) - Best highway autopilot - Car improves over time (via Software Updates) - Federal and State Incentives - Quiet at low speeds. - Often the car qualifies for an HOV lane sticker letting you use HOV lanes with a single occupant. - One Pedal Driving - Security (Stolen Tesla vehicles in the US have almost all been recovered: 112 out of 115.) **Cons**: - Price (Many are spending more than usual to buy a Tesla Insurance is probably higher) - Charge time if road tripping - Out of Warranty Repair Costs - Range Anxiety (road trips need to be planned around supercharging) - Time it takes to order parts repair the car - Time it takes to receive the car after ordering it - Interior not as nice as other luxury brands - Roughly $1500 cost to install a 240V charger in the garage | SupaZT | 2018-09-05 18:52:22 | 33 | e5ga0xl | The best way to get someone to understand why they should buy a Tesla is to have them drive a Tesla. If you have one let them drive it if you don t do a test drive. Tesla stores are some of the least pressure selling environments you can find. The employees there will not pressure you into anything and have been known to downsell customers who think they need a 100D into a 75D when it will meet all their needs. If someone doesn t want to buy a Tesla then they don t have to buy a Tesla it s a cool car with a great story and it s the future today but telling someone they need to do something is the best way to get them to not do that. | Ms_KnowItSome | 2018-09-05 19:22:51 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d9n3s | [Discussion] Since I know we all have friends and family skeptical buying a Tesla in general can we create a list of reasons why you bought or regret your Tesla? (Pros Cons) | **Pros**: - Performance (Instant torque instant acceleration handling.) - Emission Free - No more trips to the gas station (if you plug it in at night daily) - Regenerative braking - Cheaper to maintain than similarly priced gas cars (Brakes last longer because of regenerative braking) - Best highway autopilot - Car improves over time (via Software Updates) - Federal and State Incentives - Quiet at low speeds. - Often the car qualifies for an HOV lane sticker letting you use HOV lanes with a single occupant. - One Pedal Driving - Security (Stolen Tesla vehicles in the US have almost all been recovered: 112 out of 115.) **Cons**: - Price (Many are spending more than usual to buy a Tesla Insurance is probably higher) - Charge time if road tripping - Out of Warranty Repair Costs - Range Anxiety (road trips need to be planned around supercharging) - Time it takes to order parts repair the car - Time it takes to receive the car after ordering it - Interior not as nice as other luxury brands - Roughly $1500 cost to install a 240V charger in the garage | SupaZT | 2018-09-05 18:52:22 | 33 | e5ga2eu | Also I think the interior luxury is subjective. I think it feels very luxurious. Simplicity is awesome and easy to keep clean! | That_Vegan_EV_Guy | 2018-09-05 19:23:25 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d9n3s | [Discussion] Since I know we all have friends and family skeptical buying a Tesla in general can we create a list of reasons why you bought or regret your Tesla? (Pros Cons) | **Pros**: - Performance (Instant torque instant acceleration handling.) - Emission Free - No more trips to the gas station (if you plug it in at night daily) - Regenerative braking - Cheaper to maintain than similarly priced gas cars (Brakes last longer because of regenerative braking) - Best highway autopilot - Car improves over time (via Software Updates) - Federal and State Incentives - Quiet at low speeds. - Often the car qualifies for an HOV lane sticker letting you use HOV lanes with a single occupant. - One Pedal Driving - Security (Stolen Tesla vehicles in the US have almost all been recovered: 112 out of 115.) **Cons**: - Price (Many are spending more than usual to buy a Tesla Insurance is probably higher) - Charge time if road tripping - Out of Warranty Repair Costs - Range Anxiety (road trips need to be planned around supercharging) - Time it takes to order parts repair the car - Time it takes to receive the car after ordering it - Interior not as nice as other luxury brands - Roughly $1500 cost to install a 240V charger in the garage | SupaZT | 2018-09-05 18:52:22 | 33 | e5g8tph | Love the car but I m still sitting with a broken quarter glass (vandalism) for a near month almost now. (Santa Clara CA) | kentofighter | 2018-09-05 19:06:05 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d9n3s | [Discussion] Since I know we all have friends and family skeptical buying a Tesla in general can we create a list of reasons why you bought or regret your Tesla? (Pros Cons) | **Pros**: - Performance (Instant torque instant acceleration handling.) - Emission Free - No more trips to the gas station (if you plug it in at night daily) - Regenerative braking - Cheaper to maintain than similarly priced gas cars (Brakes last longer because of regenerative braking) - Best highway autopilot - Car improves over time (via Software Updates) - Federal and State Incentives - Quiet at low speeds. - Often the car qualifies for an HOV lane sticker letting you use HOV lanes with a single occupant. - One Pedal Driving - Security (Stolen Tesla vehicles in the US have almost all been recovered: 112 out of 115.) **Cons**: - Price (Many are spending more than usual to buy a Tesla Insurance is probably higher) - Charge time if road tripping - Out of Warranty Repair Costs - Range Anxiety (road trips need to be planned around supercharging) - Time it takes to order parts repair the car - Time it takes to receive the car after ordering it - Interior not as nice as other luxury brands - Roughly $1500 cost to install a 240V charger in the garage | SupaZT | 2018-09-05 18:52:22 | 33 | e5gfwlp | I love that you re proselytizing for Tesla. More people need to do that (without being dicks about it). However there are a lot of reasons that people give for their behavior when those reasons aren t the real ones (whether they re doing it consciously or not). For instance if someone doesn t have a lot of money or doesn t have a lot of money to spare their brain may find some other reason for giving them an excuse to not spend that money. E.g. I m worried about having enough money for health issues after I retire. I need a reason for my son to stop begging me to get a Tesla. I know! The news says they re crap so I ll go with that. I also suspect some of the people I know think Tesla is only for techies because most of what they want (if they re going to spend a lot of money on any kind of purchase) is social clout. If your dad s friends aren t going to understand a Tesla or think the minimal design of the Model 3 is inferior to their neighbor s Bugatti BMW Audi Cadillac or whatever then they re not getting the same thing you are when you re buying it. A Tesla could be the best car ever made (I actually think it is) but if the approval of your luddite spouse or techno-hater neighbor is all you care about then you ll come up with other reasons why you re not interested because it s socially unacceptable to mention those reasons. And all the pros in the world won t convince them. So before continuing to badger someone see if you can figure out what their real reasons might be for being inclined to believe the FUD. Best of luck though! The sooner we can get everyone away from car smoking the better. | laioren | 2018-09-05 20:43:54 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d9n3s | [Discussion] Since I know we all have friends and family skeptical buying a Tesla in general can we create a list of reasons why you bought or regret your Tesla? (Pros Cons) | **Pros**: - Performance (Instant torque instant acceleration handling.) - Emission Free - No more trips to the gas station (if you plug it in at night daily) - Regenerative braking - Cheaper to maintain than similarly priced gas cars (Brakes last longer because of regenerative braking) - Best highway autopilot - Car improves over time (via Software Updates) - Federal and State Incentives - Quiet at low speeds. - Often the car qualifies for an HOV lane sticker letting you use HOV lanes with a single occupant. - One Pedal Driving - Security (Stolen Tesla vehicles in the US have almost all been recovered: 112 out of 115.) **Cons**: - Price (Many are spending more than usual to buy a Tesla Insurance is probably higher) - Charge time if road tripping - Out of Warranty Repair Costs - Range Anxiety (road trips need to be planned around supercharging) - Time it takes to order parts repair the car - Time it takes to receive the car after ordering it - Interior not as nice as other luxury brands - Roughly $1500 cost to install a 240V charger in the garage | SupaZT | 2018-09-05 18:52:22 | 33 | e5god0e | Reason I purchased: I wanted it. | drdabbles | 2018-09-05 22:48:51 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d9n3s | [Discussion] Since I know we all have friends and family skeptical buying a Tesla in general can we create a list of reasons why you bought or regret your Tesla? (Pros Cons) | **Pros**: - Performance (Instant torque instant acceleration handling.) - Emission Free - No more trips to the gas station (if you plug it in at night daily) - Regenerative braking - Cheaper to maintain than similarly priced gas cars (Brakes last longer because of regenerative braking) - Best highway autopilot - Car improves over time (via Software Updates) - Federal and State Incentives - Quiet at low speeds. - Often the car qualifies for an HOV lane sticker letting you use HOV lanes with a single occupant. - One Pedal Driving - Security (Stolen Tesla vehicles in the US have almost all been recovered: 112 out of 115.) **Cons**: - Price (Many are spending more than usual to buy a Tesla Insurance is probably higher) - Charge time if road tripping - Out of Warranty Repair Costs - Range Anxiety (road trips need to be planned around supercharging) - Time it takes to order parts repair the car - Time it takes to receive the car after ordering it - Interior not as nice as other luxury brands - Roughly $1500 cost to install a 240V charger in the garage | SupaZT | 2018-09-05 18:52:22 | 33 | e5ga56l | My experience is with the model 3 so maybe on the S and X it s different(doubt it) Pros: - not paying $3.3 gal for gas - not waiting in Costco line for cheaper gas - wake up to a full charge daily (well 90%) - beautiful center display - the connectivity on the car - instant torque - quiet cabin - freaking enhanced autopilot - the beautiful design Cons: - tesla app is a bit iffy - realized I can t drive this car to certain places due to lack of charging (not that I can t get there but not enough charge for the return trip) - high purchase price - slow charging compared to gas but I usually leave it charging My family was extremely skeptical of Tesla when I got it I decided to take them on a small trip. Their only complaint in the end was that there were no handles on the top of the doors for old people. They loved how quiet it was and they loved the overall quality of the car. Edit: actually they said they would never choose red for the color aswell but that s not really relevant. | jacobdu215 | 2018-09-05 19:24:31 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a34zay | [Discussion] Smart Button to Control Frunk | I d like to have a one-button access to control the frunk so I can open it quickly when approaching the car. (I know the fob does this but I don t want to spend $150 for a fob if a simpler more elegant solution exists). Has anyone used a low-energy Bluetooth device to control the frunk by using your phone key s access? I was thinking those selfie buttons for phones could be hacked to just communicate with the Tesla app but does anyone have any experience using a programmable Smart Button to work with the Tesla Stats or Remote S apps? From my research Flic looks like it may be a good candidate for something like this: https: www.amazon.com Flic-Wireless-Smart-Button-Green dp B00ZAEOZ2A ref=pd_lpo_vtph_60_tr_img_2?_encoding=UTF8& psc=1& refRID=T3F0R28Q6A6ZZ3XKB1JE Would like to know if anyone has found a good solution similar to this? | pengox80 | 2018-12-04 21:15:59 | 12 | eb3j8ul | I really wish that the app would allow you to press the button and Cache the command until the car finally wakes up and then issue the command. I hate sitting and waiting for 45 seconds every time I want to pre-heat. That and the damn Alexa app. even the 3rd party ones don t work unless the car is awake. Drive me crazy that my 2013 ford card do something better than my Tesla. | ENrgStar | 2018-12-04 22:23:21 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8wbanv | [Discussion] Snow Tires for the Model 3 | I m waiting on the performance edition with the 20 performance wheels. Living in Minnesota I m wondering how these will hold up to snow. Should I think about some snow tires? Any recommendations? | TheGreatPJDJ | 2018-07-05 15:23:58 | 13 | e1u60xp | I m amazed people who live in northern states don t know the benefits of dedicated winter tires. | Dr_Pippin | 2018-07-05 15:58:56 | 11 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
8wbanv | [Discussion] Snow Tires for the Model 3 | I m waiting on the performance edition with the 20 performance wheels. Living in Minnesota I m wondering how these will hold up to snow. Should I think about some snow tires? Any recommendations? | TheGreatPJDJ | 2018-07-05 15:23:58 | 13 | e1u3wsv | Those tires will essentially be like hockey pucks in cold weather. You should most definitely look at getting winter tires. You re better off going with a second set of rims + winter tires. Maybe start looking for a used set of aero wheels once it s confirmed that the 18 s will clear the performance calipers. | PM_ME_UR_DECOLLETAGE | 2018-07-05 15:28:01 | 10 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
8wbanv | [Discussion] Snow Tires for the Model 3 | I m waiting on the performance edition with the 20 performance wheels. Living in Minnesota I m wondering how these will hold up to snow. Should I think about some snow tires? Any recommendations? | TheGreatPJDJ | 2018-07-05 15:23:58 | 13 | e1u4ztz | They re dangerous to drive on under 40 degrees or so. They will be damaged if you drive them under 20 degrees. Hell their warning says to not even MOVE the tires under 20. | Jddssc121 | 2018-07-05 15:43:59 | 10 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
8wbanv | [Discussion] Snow Tires for the Model 3 | I m waiting on the performance edition with the 20 performance wheels. Living in Minnesota I m wondering how these will hold up to snow. Should I think about some snow tires? Any recommendations? | TheGreatPJDJ | 2018-07-05 15:23:58 | 13 | e1uasyf | I live in the Lake Erie Snow Belt and while I don t own a Tesla I do own snow tires on both of my vehicle. I have **Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2** non-studded tires the best on the market. | slopecarver | 2018-07-05 17:06:35 | 7 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
aspjmq | [Discussion] So I received first one then a second SMS from Tesla... who else got them? | In the large scheme of things this is nothing but it still triggered a bit of an emotional roller-coaster ride for me. I m in Europe and expecting delivery of my Model 3. A delivery specialist has already given me a delivery window of late February to late March which is quite a wide period of time. Thus I was really excited when I received an SMS at around 2 p.m. today which read as follows: *TESLA Update: Your Model 3 is ahead of schedule and we can deliver your vehicle early. If you are available to take delivery this Friday or Saturday please reply YES and we will contact you to update your schedule.To unsubscribe from SMS reply STOP.* Yay I thought! Cool I thought! Finally I thought! Well around 4 p.m. I received a second SMS. *TESLA - Update: You will have received an SMS message a short moment ago notifying you that your car was available to pick up earlier than expected. We are really sorry to confirm that this message was sent out in error. We apologise for any inconvenience caused and are working hard to solve this and importantly to get your car ready as quickly as we can. We will reach out as soon as we have the confirmed date for you.* So... my hopes for a super-early delivery were dashed in a cruel fashion (just a joke :-) ). Anyway its not the end of the world and I had already mentally prepared myself for having to wait another month or so. But I am still wondering any other r teslamotors redditors that had their dreams (temporarily) crushed in the same way this afternoon? Let me know so that we can commiserate together. | NacMacFeegle | 2019-02-20 15:23:25 | 15 | egvz923 | At least you didn t drive over to pick the car up only to be told it isn t ready yet.... | peacockypeacock | 2019-02-20 16:57:29 | 8 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
aspjmq | [Discussion] So I received first one then a second SMS from Tesla... who else got them? | In the large scheme of things this is nothing but it still triggered a bit of an emotional roller-coaster ride for me. I m in Europe and expecting delivery of my Model 3. A delivery specialist has already given me a delivery window of late February to late March which is quite a wide period of time. Thus I was really excited when I received an SMS at around 2 p.m. today which read as follows: *TESLA Update: Your Model 3 is ahead of schedule and we can deliver your vehicle early. If you are available to take delivery this Friday or Saturday please reply YES and we will contact you to update your schedule.To unsubscribe from SMS reply STOP.* Yay I thought! Cool I thought! Finally I thought! Well around 4 p.m. I received a second SMS. *TESLA - Update: You will have received an SMS message a short moment ago notifying you that your car was available to pick up earlier than expected. We are really sorry to confirm that this message was sent out in error. We apologise for any inconvenience caused and are working hard to solve this and importantly to get your car ready as quickly as we can. We will reach out as soon as we have the confirmed date for you.* So... my hopes for a super-early delivery were dashed in a cruel fashion (just a joke :-) ). Anyway its not the end of the world and I had already mentally prepared myself for having to wait another month or so. But I am still wondering any other r teslamotors redditors that had their dreams (temporarily) crushed in the same way this afternoon? Let me know so that we can commiserate together. | NacMacFeegle | 2019-02-20 15:23:25 | 15 | egvvb63 | Welcome to the final phase of acquiring a Model 3 the same thing happened to me at the end of October push. And it will probably happen at least one more time before you actually get your car. | izerth | 2019-02-20 16:12:30 | 5 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
8a8k74 | [Discussion] So excited to get the scrollwheel control for TACC speed and follow setting. Enabling the scrollwheel is brilliant for this function and may very well be even better suited for it than the TACC stalk used on the Model S and X. Thank you Tesla. | The updated manual describes the implementation: a slow roll of the scrollwheel adjusts it in 1 mph increment and a fast roll steps it in 5 mph increments. That is just genius. It would be so natural. I wonder if Tesla knew all along that the scrollwheel would eventually be used for TACC and AP or did they decide to use it after the fact seeing the outcry from owners who found screen finger tapping regressive for this purpose? I would say Tesla had it planned all along right? Another great feature to have would be to be able to change regen levels with the scrollwheel while on normal drive mode maybe 3 levels of regen strength adding a stronger regen than the current std setting. Crossing my fingers that 2018.12 gets pushed soon! | Frowawayduh1 | 2018-04-06 10:57:15 | 30 | dwwn4nt | Since the right scroll wheel does absolutely nothing while driving my guess would be that this was the plan all along. I don t think regen is something you d need to change so often that it is always accessible though. I ve yet to take it off the highest setting. | jonjiv | 2018-04-06 11:05:54 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8a8k74 | [Discussion] So excited to get the scrollwheel control for TACC speed and follow setting. Enabling the scrollwheel is brilliant for this function and may very well be even better suited for it than the TACC stalk used on the Model S and X. Thank you Tesla. | The updated manual describes the implementation: a slow roll of the scrollwheel adjusts it in 1 mph increment and a fast roll steps it in 5 mph increments. That is just genius. It would be so natural. I wonder if Tesla knew all along that the scrollwheel would eventually be used for TACC and AP or did they decide to use it after the fact seeing the outcry from owners who found screen finger tapping regressive for this purpose? I would say Tesla had it planned all along right? Another great feature to have would be to be able to change regen levels with the scrollwheel while on normal drive mode maybe 3 levels of regen strength adding a stronger regen than the current std setting. Crossing my fingers that 2018.12 gets pushed soon! | Frowawayduh1 | 2018-04-06 10:57:15 | 30 | dwwrnfb | I would definitely like a stronger regen setting. | maverick8717 | 2018-04-06 12:53:58 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8vavls | [Discussion] Spacers. Worth it? | I ve pretty much done all the custom work I want to do to my MS but was thinking of wheel spacers to give it an even more aggressive stance. Will these compromise performer at all? I ve heard that they can void your warranty if the SC finds them on your car so I m wondering if it s also an issue with them possibly causing damage to the car somehow. | dirtymack | 2018-07-01 16:03:52 | 12 | e1lwlq5 | I wouldn t recommend it. They likely won t compromise performance but they will definitely increase the bending stress and strain in your axles. | QU3NT4R | 2018-07-01 16:21:02 | 8 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
8vavls | [Discussion] Spacers. Worth it? | I ve pretty much done all the custom work I want to do to my MS but was thinking of wheel spacers to give it an even more aggressive stance. Will these compromise performer at all? I ve heard that they can void your warranty if the SC finds them on your car so I m wondering if it s also an issue with them possibly causing damage to the car somehow. | dirtymack | 2018-07-01 16:03:52 | 12 | e1m21u0 | If you want to give your Tesla a custom look and fill out the wheel wells look for a wheel manufacturer that offers a larger wheel offset. Spacers are not a quality product and will potentially damage your car. | manbearpyg | 2018-07-01 17:45:07 | 7 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
8vavls | [Discussion] Spacers. Worth it? | I ve pretty much done all the custom work I want to do to my MS but was thinking of wheel spacers to give it an even more aggressive stance. Will these compromise performer at all? I ve heard that they can void your warranty if the SC finds them on your car so I m wondering if it s also an issue with them possibly causing damage to the car somehow. | dirtymack | 2018-07-01 16:03:52 | 12 | e1lvu4d | Ok I ll bite out of curiosity. What are “spacers”? | AFew10_9TooMany | 2018-07-01 16:08:34 | 5 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
8vavls | [Discussion] Spacers. Worth it? | I ve pretty much done all the custom work I want to do to my MS but was thinking of wheel spacers to give it an even more aggressive stance. Will these compromise performer at all? I ve heard that they can void your warranty if the SC finds them on your car so I m wondering if it s also an issue with them possibly causing damage to the car somehow. | dirtymack | 2018-07-01 16:03:52 | 12 | e1m99l1 | Correctly sized wheels > Spacers | Fugner | 2018-07-01 19:42:45 | 5 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
82b0lj | [Discussion] Speculation time: why might Tesla be increasing configuration invites despite an apparent production slowdown? | My thoughts: * They re doing some retooling right now and are confident that their production rate will go up by a large margin very soon and want customers at the ready. * There s really no rhyme or reason to any of this. The left hand generally doesn t know what the right hand is doing and they re focusing on fixing production bottlenecks more than delivery strategy. * They have a few hundred thousand people who would be happy to have the opportunity to give them $2500 with no promised delivery date and are looking to tap into that cash cow. * Color wheel batches are paramount and they re looking for which configuration will give them the largest group of deliveries. Anything else? | ch00f | 2018-03-06 00:53:23 | 16 | dv9aboq | IMHO A large amount of reservation holders are waiting for another configuration (SR AWD white interior etc). So as invites now roll out to the masses (read people with lower spending power) these invites don t get used. Since no cars are ordered more invites are sent. | cariacou | 2018-03-06 08:20:16 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
82b0lj | [Discussion] Speculation time: why might Tesla be increasing configuration invites despite an apparent production slowdown? | My thoughts: * They re doing some retooling right now and are confident that their production rate will go up by a large margin very soon and want customers at the ready. * There s really no rhyme or reason to any of this. The left hand generally doesn t know what the right hand is doing and they re focusing on fixing production bottlenecks more than delivery strategy. * They have a few hundred thousand people who would be happy to have the opportunity to give them $2500 with no promised delivery date and are looking to tap into that cash cow. * Color wheel batches are paramount and they re looking for which configuration will give them the largest group of deliveries. Anything else? | ch00f | 2018-03-06 00:53:23 | 16 | dv8rgaq | Slow production down so that the 200 000th Tesla sold in the US hits at the beginning of the quarter and allows the most customers to take advantage before the credit is phased out? | BraveRock | 2018-03-06 01:13:20 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
82b0lj | [Discussion] Speculation time: why might Tesla be increasing configuration invites despite an apparent production slowdown? | My thoughts: * They re doing some retooling right now and are confident that their production rate will go up by a large margin very soon and want customers at the ready. * There s really no rhyme or reason to any of this. The left hand generally doesn t know what the right hand is doing and they re focusing on fixing production bottlenecks more than delivery strategy. * They have a few hundred thousand people who would be happy to have the opportunity to give them $2500 with no promised delivery date and are looking to tap into that cash cow. * Color wheel batches are paramount and they re looking for which configuration will give them the largest group of deliveries. Anything else? | ch00f | 2018-03-06 00:53:23 | 16 | dv8ubtk | The first non-owner invite week was twice as many invites than any owner invite week according to the invite spreadsheet floating around. That would make even less sense if production has slowed. 400 invites at $2 500 is 1 million. It s hard to believe that they are in need of a 5-10 million dollars so much they invited people pre-maturely. | smakson11 | 2018-03-06 02:03:57 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
awxt2q | [Discussion] Speculation: new cars are being shipped with HW3 that s why it s a free upgrade to FSD whereas prior owners of EAP must pay an extra $2k to cover the new hardware and installation. | I suspect that Tesla can t offer free FSD to prior purchases of EAP because the upgrade costs of installation and hardware to the required version 3 would be too high for Tesla to give away. The $2K is to cover the new computer and installation. Those that purchased more recently probably already have HW3 installed and therefore Tesla is able to give away FSD as simply a software update. Can anyone with a recent delivery confirm? | spindrift_20 | 2019-03-03 19:56:08 | 11 | ehpvqmi | I would agree but people will still complain. | ss68and66 | 2019-03-03 19:59:49 | 9 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
awxt2q | [Discussion] Speculation: new cars are being shipped with HW3 that s why it s a free upgrade to FSD whereas prior owners of EAP must pay an extra $2k to cover the new hardware and installation. | I suspect that Tesla can t offer free FSD to prior purchases of EAP because the upgrade costs of installation and hardware to the required version 3 would be too high for Tesla to give away. The $2K is to cover the new computer and installation. Those that purchased more recently probably already have HW3 installed and therefore Tesla is able to give away FSD as simply a software update. Can anyone with a recent delivery confirm? | spindrift_20 | 2019-03-03 19:56:08 | 11 | ehpykth | Recent delivery. My car has a 2018 build date. I got FSD for “free”. No way I have HW3. | emodro | 2019-03-03 20:35:38 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
ahqv1g | [Discussion] Starting my own independent charging station | Would someone care to explain to me why I could or could not start my own business for supercharging for Tesla and other electric vehicles? & #x200B Sorry if this is a dumb question I m really just curious as the demand seems to be piling on. & #x200B What would be some of the necessary challenges to overcome? | Yetiinatux | 2019-01-19 22:06:43 | 22 | eehae3a | You can buy the now sadly closed Tree house retail store in Dallas TX might be cheap in the sense and comes with solar and the big powerpacks already installed. “At TreeHouse more than 500 solar panels on a pitched saw-toothed roof will also store energy in two giant Tesla Powerpacks that will be displayed as a feature behind glass inside the 25 000 square-foot store.” | Imightbewrong44 | 2019-01-19 23:09:26 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
87b0aq | [Discussion] Studies show that after a few minutes of semiautonomous driving “vigilance decrement” can occur. This is the debate about skipping Level 3. | In short it only takes a few minutes before we are lulled into no longer paying attention. AP drivers what do you think? https: www.wired.com story uber-crash-arizona-human-train-self-driving-cars https: www.sciencedirect.com science article pii S2351978915005004 https: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov m pubmed 14702988 | ShaqLuvsTesla | 2018-03-26 17:36:54 | 23 | dwbt7fr | Level 3 in many ways is the **most dangerous** level of autonomy. It largely mimics the capabilities of Level 4 autonomy but unlike Level 4 requires human intervention at a **moment s notice**. This is a dangerous combination because it would be *very* easy for a passenger to be lulled into a false sense of security and then be unprepared for a sudden - and potentially deadly - accident. In my opinion Level 3 should not be an option. We should jump from Level 2 straight to Level 4 even if it necessitates a long wait. [Path to Autonomy: Self-Driving Car Levels 0 to 5 Explained](https: www.caranddriver.com features path-to-autonomy-self-driving-car-levels-0-to-5-explained-feature) | FUTURESPEAKshow | 2018-03-26 20:42:44 | 9 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
87b0aq | [Discussion] Studies show that after a few minutes of semiautonomous driving “vigilance decrement” can occur. This is the debate about skipping Level 3. | In short it only takes a few minutes before we are lulled into no longer paying attention. AP drivers what do you think? https: www.wired.com story uber-crash-arizona-human-train-self-driving-cars https: www.sciencedirect.com science article pii S2351978915005004 https: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov m pubmed 14702988 | ShaqLuvsTesla | 2018-03-26 17:36:54 | 23 | dwbgt3w | It s accurate. I don t know if it can be trained but it s accurate. I suppose the question becomes is us driving semi-autonomously paying less attention better or worse than when drivers are distracted WITHOUT semi autonomous assists. | ENrgStar | 2018-03-26 17:38:41 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
ahufgd | [Discussion] Supercharger SoC limits incoming? | I just noticed that a new supercharger property appeared in the car named soc_limit_applies . All but one supercharges have it set to false. So I wonder if it s there to finally limit busy superchargers being (ab)used to charge to 100%? I wonder what shows up in the UI when you go to such a place? The only supercharger where this is in effect today is San Mateo CA - Bridgepointe Pkwy . Somebody on a recent firmware (18.50+) wants to go there and see? | greentheonly | 2019-01-20 04:58:19 | 65 | eeiyz02 | Oh please please set this to 90% for all cars in Hong Kong. It s a city longest trip from one end top the other is less than 40 miles and yet you see all these idiots charging to 100% every single time. like it s not gonna be free again tomorrow.... meanwhile you ve got 6 cars queuing everywhere... | 1-1-2-1-RED-BLACK-GO | 2019-01-20 12:45:56 | 20 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahufgd | [Discussion] Supercharger SoC limits incoming? | I just noticed that a new supercharger property appeared in the car named soc_limit_applies . All but one supercharges have it set to false. So I wonder if it s there to finally limit busy superchargers being (ab)used to charge to 100%? I wonder what shows up in the UI when you go to such a place? The only supercharger where this is in effect today is San Mateo CA - Bridgepointe Pkwy . Somebody on a recent firmware (18.50+) wants to go there and see? | greentheonly | 2019-01-20 04:58:19 | 65 | eei7imq | If they do enable it the smart way and therefore the way I d expect them to do it is to have it enabled for superchargers where the next superchargers are within the range available at that SOC percentage for that vehicle not on every supercharger out there. It s always been the smarter way to travel+charge. If this comes to be then it s now just they re just forcing it onto people. | EverythingIsNorminal | 2019-01-20 05:20:07 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahufgd | [Discussion] Supercharger SoC limits incoming? | I just noticed that a new supercharger property appeared in the car named soc_limit_applies . All but one supercharges have it set to false. So I wonder if it s there to finally limit busy superchargers being (ab)used to charge to 100%? I wonder what shows up in the UI when you go to such a place? The only supercharger where this is in effect today is San Mateo CA - Bridgepointe Pkwy . Somebody on a recent firmware (18.50+) wants to go there and see? | greentheonly | 2019-01-20 04:58:19 | 65 | eeiifhn | To which value is it set at San Mateo CA - Bridgepointe Pkwy ? Just to true or do they set it to a value? | I-B-U-Z-A | 2019-01-20 08:25:28 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahufgd | [Discussion] Supercharger SoC limits incoming? | I just noticed that a new supercharger property appeared in the car named soc_limit_applies . All but one supercharges have it set to false. So I wonder if it s there to finally limit busy superchargers being (ab)used to charge to 100%? I wonder what shows up in the UI when you go to such a place? The only supercharger where this is in effect today is San Mateo CA - Bridgepointe Pkwy . Somebody on a recent firmware (18.50+) wants to go there and see? | greentheonly | 2019-01-20 04:58:19 | 65 | eei7scv | If you are on a long roadtrip it is better just to get enough to get to the next charger so you can charge at 400-500 mph instead of some other awfully slow speed. | instantnet | 2019-01-20 05:23:26 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ahufgd | [Discussion] Supercharger SoC limits incoming? | I just noticed that a new supercharger property appeared in the car named soc_limit_applies . All but one supercharges have it set to false. So I wonder if it s there to finally limit busy superchargers being (ab)used to charge to 100%? I wonder what shows up in the UI when you go to such a place? The only supercharger where this is in effect today is San Mateo CA - Bridgepointe Pkwy . Somebody on a recent firmware (18.50+) wants to go there and see? | greentheonly | 2019-01-20 04:58:19 | 65 | eekqg1p | I m a responsible Tesla community member and don t over charge at Superchargers but in order to make it to my parents house I have to charge to nearly 100% (in the winter) to make it from the nearest supercharger. I leave home with 100% get to the supercharger with about 80% eat Taco Bell and let it work its way past 90% and toward 100% as I finish my meal. | OompaOrangeFace | 2019-01-20 22:55:01 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1q0ilj | Can t people on here ever accept that sometimes stocks just sell off? What was bad about the banks stress tests last week? Nothing they were great but they sold off. The stock is down. It s not manipulation. People sell all the time. It just so happens more are selling now than 2 days ago. 5000 week is a meaningless number in the scope of things. It really proves nothing of importance. So they hit some arbitrary small production amount that they ve been behind on for a while. Great. Why should the stock go up? | gasfjhagskd | 2018-07-03 15:33:09 | 34 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1pzym6 | > Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions Were previous surges of positive articles blatant proof of influence of individuals with long positions fans enthusiasts? | mrmpls | 2018-07-03 15:25:13 | 32 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1q3ri7 | Stock price had all the positive news already baked in before the 5k number was hit due to Elon s transparency on twitter. The only thing it could do was sell off. When you think about car companies a big concern is recalls and QA. Very easy for article authors to write a speculative report about how quality is down due to the high production. Very click-bait-y. How about writing a positive article about Tesla? Kinda boring cause we already know about the 5k ergo not so click-bait-y. I don t think the shorts are the reason for the negative press I think it is just lazy article writers publishers. | beefytime | 2018-07-03 16:17:39 | 20 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1q2z50 | The reason Tesla receives constant shit press is the same reason Climate Change is effectively not mentioned on US corporate media. 6 corporations own 90% of the media and these corporations are heavily invested in oil and gas companies and these corporations receive hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue from ICE car companies. | Hotchicas1234 | 2018-07-03 16:07:00 | 19 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1qav14 | Or perhaps Elon desperately pushed his workers in recent weeks to cut corners to make a goal he has said the company depends on so you re getting a ton of negative articles? Occam s razor people. | tonto89998 | 2018-07-03 17:53:47 | 12 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1qcijj | This hate is baked in every story about Tesla. Every other review of a Model S or X in Europe: great cars in and out but because Tesla is struggling with Model 3 production number you better buy this i-Pace or some future german car . I kid you not. Watching even that carwow video vs the german equivalents they tried to make the P100D look slow. It is frickin infuriating. | vr321 | 2018-07-03 18:16:27 | 8 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1qgli2 | I am very long - and I think much of what you are seeing is some frustration on the part of shareholders that while the NASDAQ has seen a 30% increase over the last 12 months our TSLA holdings have lost ground and are significantly off the highs we saw 13 months ago. This sub loves to talk about the shorts the oil companies the luddites etc. But let s be honest - it was not external forces that caused 25 VP Director C-suite positions to turnover since January it was not external forces that pushed the model 3 out of engineering review with hundreds of unnecessary welds it was not external forces that built the massive system of conveyors the flufferbot or under-specced the lines which then required cargo planes engineered structures and massive hiring surges to compensate for. No one on the outside established the flimsy IT protocols that allowed a low-level employee to install malware and siphon out proprietary code from the manufacturing system nor the lack of software testing that led to the Consumer Reports debacle. It was not an outside force that pushed for the acquisition of Solar City at a premium when it could have been picked up for pennies if it had been allowed to complete bankruptcy proceedings prior to the buy. It was not the shorts that led Elon to overleverage his own borrowing against his holdings leading to a cut in Tesla bond rating nor was it the oil companies that cut short supplier validation and source testing. I m used to the cries of hater and accusations of being short - fortunately my wife is smarter than I and bought us in very early and we can ride this thing a long way yet. TSLA was largely priced to perfection months ago and there is little reason for it to move much above it s current price. Tesla does not need to worry about anything on the outside - it has plenty of internal issues to deal with first. | encomlab | 2018-07-03 19:11:03 | 8 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1pyz9i | I doubt there is any coordinated conspiracy. Some big shorts are going to push for negative coverage but I m on board with hey Tesla needs to prove the can make these cars profitably. They aren t out of the woods yet. I believe 100% they will get there. But in the mean time the short thesis remains at least plausible though i don t buy it. | Soooohatemods | 2018-07-03 15:11:19 | 7 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1q35zf | It s more to do with sell offs and worries about tariffs. Once they prove 5k week is sustainable then it will pop again. | GoodOmens | 2018-07-03 16:09:35 | 6 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1qdopn | I think it s the opposite. Journalists want to sound like they know why the stock price moving so when it goes down they come up with all the negative things they can about Tesla to sound smart and when it goes up they ll focus on the positive to show that they know how the market works. As for why the stock price is down I honestly have no idea but my guess would be it s because people were expecting a price surge following the news of reaching 5k week and now that it didn t happen people sold instead which caused negative momentum and the stock is going to fall until it rises again. | OiQQu | 2018-07-03 18:32:53 | 6 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1qflls | This magical 5k week one time burst achievement is an arbitrary meaningless goal that Elon set and has wasted millions of dollars to get. All Wall Street wants is a consistent ramp with cars of consistently good quality. | mmiller774 | 2018-07-03 18:57:55 | 6 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1q223j | I want a movie made about this | rverheyen | 2018-07-03 15:54:39 | 5 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8vswgy | [Discussion] Surge of negative articles coming from Media Outlets. | Appears the stock price is being affected as a result. Is this blatant proof of influence of individuals with short positions on the media ? | adiddy88 | 2018-07-03 15:03:36 | 86 | e1qhil0 | I think the stock price is hit by deliveries. People (including myself) were expecting around \~25k deliveries. Instead they were \~18k. That means they ll lose about $3.50 share instead of $3.00 share for Q2. | BS_Is_Annoying | 2018-07-03 19:22:36 | 5 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
86ocn0 | [Discussion] Survey: how was your Tesla delivery? | Reading around teslamotors forums and this sub it seems that quite a few people had a few issues with the delivery (paint panels alignment squeaky sounds etc...). I am aware that is more likely that people will report delivery issues rather than issue-free deliveries so I am wondering if it is possible to get some more stats on this based on the respondents to this post. I ll update the description frequently with the results from the replies Please reply with: Model Place (would be nice to know) Any issue? Yes No If yes - What issues? - When did you notice them? - How did Tesla react to them? Results (as of 3 24 5.33 AM EST): **Model 3** Reported: 3 Issues: 0% **Model S** Reported: 4 Issues: 100% Covered by Tesla: 100% (assuming Blind_at_Sea s issues will be fixed too on the 5th) Delivery delayed: 0% Issues: paint scratches misaligned gaps doors quarter glass faulty misaligned door **Model X** Reported: 1 Issues: 0% Edit: updated survey | billycage12 | 2018-03-23 21:36:11 | 12 | dw6r700 | Tesla Model S Fremont CA (March 2017) - Was too excited after the factory tour & orientation to look for issues with the car (plus this was before seeing the links & posts on Reddit ). After a day or two noticed panel gaps in the frunk trunk & misaligned door on driver side. Also the driver side quarter glass was faulty causing an air leak into the cabin. Got a service appointment & everything got fixed within 1-2 days. The service reps were really nice & the process was very streamlined. He mentioned that there is a QA allowed limit for gaps but the ones on mine were well beyond. The quarter glass issue happened only at freeway speeds so it probably wasn t caught during the dry-run they do. | Gunnernaut7 | 2018-03-23 23:20:30 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9cqqug | [Discussion] TM3 Phone Key Questions | Hi r teslamotors Long time fan occasional commenter just placed my order today! (LR AWD non-P Pearl White 18 Aero EAP located in NYC) Delivery estimate says November-January obviously expecting and hoping to get before 2019 for tax credit purposes. I ve had 2 questions concerns regarding the phone key in specific situations that I still haven t found clear answers to hoping you guys can help: Assume in both situations we began our drive after unlocking and starting the drive using the phone key only Situation #1: I stop and park take my phone and get out of the car leaving my SO or a friend in car while I run into a store for a few minutes. The car will lockdown and basically turn off once my phone connection loses contact correct? Is there a setting to keep basic systems such as climate radio music running while I leave the car with the phone key? If possible is it easy to configure when needed? Situation #1b: I have double-parked during this situation and want my SO or friend to be able to move the car if they need to is there any way they can do that besides the obvious leaving them with a key card? Situation 2: I have to valet the car. Oftentimes especially when busy a valet will hand you a ticket and leave the key in car while they do same for other people in line. If I walk away in this instance the car will lockdown and lock the valet out of it if he s left the key card inside correct? Is there an easy way to ensure a valet won t lock the card inside the car as soon as I move out of range with my phone key? Thanks for your knowledge and advice Reddit! | 2defmouze | 2018-09-04 00:26:30 | 14 | e5cly9c | 1: turn climate on via your phone as you re walking away. Either wait the 30ish seconds it takes to turn off by itself or toggle it off and back on via your phone. 1b: leave your phone in the car. | fr0drick | 2018-09-04 00:42:04 | 6 | Tesla phone key functionality |
9w0peh | [Discussion] Taking Delivery on Monday! Two Topics to Discuss | Hey gang! Getting my blue AWD Model 3 on Monday. Can t wait! In an effort not to let the excitement blind me I look to you all for some answers. 1) My car is getting delivered between 6 and 8 PM. I ll need a flashlight to inspect. What do I need to ABSOLUTELY inspect with a fine tooth comb to make sure it s okay on the car? 2) Is there a centralized app or site for the location and availability of charging stations outside of the Supercharger network? Chargestation is dodgy and EVgo and ChargeHub are just okay. Is there a preferred method? The excitement is real! | NateDogX | 2018-11-11 03:37:20 | 11 | e9gwedp | Check whatever you feel you have to have perfect... some people have different levels of acceptable to them. Personally my car has been phenomenal- if I have orange peel or streaking or swirls or such in the paint- I ve never checked- it s a car with 3 toddlers often in it- not a museum piece for me. Any issues I ve had- service (both service center and mobile service have been excellent) So for me I d make sure it had 4 wheels and a roof- take the car then go drive it and have a blast | crittermd | 2018-11-11 06:39:39 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9w0peh | [Discussion] Taking Delivery on Monday! Two Topics to Discuss | Hey gang! Getting my blue AWD Model 3 on Monday. Can t wait! In an effort not to let the excitement blind me I look to you all for some answers. 1) My car is getting delivered between 6 and 8 PM. I ll need a flashlight to inspect. What do I need to ABSOLUTELY inspect with a fine tooth comb to make sure it s okay on the car? 2) Is there a centralized app or site for the location and availability of charging stations outside of the Supercharger network? Chargestation is dodgy and EVgo and ChargeHub are just okay. Is there a preferred method? The excitement is real! | NateDogX | 2018-11-11 03:37:20 | 11 | e9gnpkv | > What do I need to ABSOLUTELY inspect with a fine tooth comb to make sure it s okay on the car? Just check for pretty bad panel gaps misalignments. Those seem to be the main issue that people are having (if any). Just make sure to document anything. > 2) Is there a centralized app or site for the location and availability of charging stations outside of the Supercharger network? Chargestation is dodgy and EVgo and ChargeHub are just okay. Is there a preferred method? PlugShare works great. | OrbitalATK | 2018-11-11 03:42:58 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
aeqhcc | [Discussion] Target Speed Lowers When Overriding Auto-steer | Since a recent update whenever I override auto-steer the target speed lowers to the current vehicle speed. This is really annoying when I am just trying to give extra space to motorcyclists passing by me in the carpool lane. To set the target speed back to what it was before I either have to manually increase it with the steering knob or completely turn off auto-pilot by pushing up on the gear stalk waiting a second or two then pushing down on it twice to turn auto-pilot back on with the default target speed. Is there any way to disable this behavior? | ArcadeRenegade | 2019-01-11 02:12:00 | 31 | edrst1x | I don t necessarily have an issue with the change...but they really need to communicate that kind of stuff better. Anything that fundamentally changes any part of the driving experience should be noted | whoindahouse | 2019-01-11 03:28:18 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
aeqhcc | [Discussion] Target Speed Lowers When Overriding Auto-steer | Since a recent update whenever I override auto-steer the target speed lowers to the current vehicle speed. This is really annoying when I am just trying to give extra space to motorcyclists passing by me in the carpool lane. To set the target speed back to what it was before I either have to manually increase it with the steering knob or completely turn off auto-pilot by pushing up on the gear stalk waiting a second or two then pushing down on it twice to turn auto-pilot back on with the default target speed. Is there any way to disable this behavior? | ArcadeRenegade | 2019-01-11 02:12:00 | 31 | edrn6zd | I feel like I remember someone complaining that when overriding auto-steer the TACC attempted to speed up to the set speed. I thought that was an odd complaint. But maybe Tesla decided to do exactly that? | drdabbles | 2019-01-11 02:16:28 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
aeqhcc | [Discussion] Target Speed Lowers When Overriding Auto-steer | Since a recent update whenever I override auto-steer the target speed lowers to the current vehicle speed. This is really annoying when I am just trying to give extra space to motorcyclists passing by me in the carpool lane. To set the target speed back to what it was before I either have to manually increase it with the steering knob or completely turn off auto-pilot by pushing up on the gear stalk waiting a second or two then pushing down on it twice to turn auto-pilot back on with the default target speed. Is there any way to disable this behavior? | ArcadeRenegade | 2019-01-11 02:12:00 | 31 | edt7w97 | [I made this post the day I got the update](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments a7reas discussion_201848121_new_autopilot_feature ). It s so annoying... If I wanted the speed to decrease I would turn off TACC. I really wish this was an option. | Flames5123 | 2019-01-11 15:09:42 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
aeqhcc | [Discussion] Target Speed Lowers When Overriding Auto-steer | Since a recent update whenever I override auto-steer the target speed lowers to the current vehicle speed. This is really annoying when I am just trying to give extra space to motorcyclists passing by me in the carpool lane. To set the target speed back to what it was before I either have to manually increase it with the steering knob or completely turn off auto-pilot by pushing up on the gear stalk waiting a second or two then pushing down on it twice to turn auto-pilot back on with the default target speed. Is there any way to disable this behavior? | ArcadeRenegade | 2019-01-11 02:12:00 | 31 | edro9mu | No this was done on purpose. People were apparently confused by the previous behavior. | pobody | 2019-01-11 02:29:46 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
aeqhcc | [Discussion] Target Speed Lowers When Overriding Auto-steer | Since a recent update whenever I override auto-steer the target speed lowers to the current vehicle speed. This is really annoying when I am just trying to give extra space to motorcyclists passing by me in the carpool lane. To set the target speed back to what it was before I either have to manually increase it with the steering knob or completely turn off auto-pilot by pushing up on the gear stalk waiting a second or two then pushing down on it twice to turn auto-pilot back on with the default target speed. Is there any way to disable this behavior? | ArcadeRenegade | 2019-01-11 02:12:00 | 31 | edrovaa | Posted the same thing on the daily thread it s horrible. And sadly likely implemented on purpose. I wish it could be at least an option for more advanced users | thebigkevdogg | 2019-01-11 02:37:17 | 5 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
7rurfx | [Discussion] Tax credit and long range option | I m debating on the long extended vs short range. I m estimated for mid-2018 for short range and Feb-Apr with long range. When we talk about the tax credit can someone explain what the 7 500 tax credit means to me in relation to the 9k cost of the extended range? I would qualify for the credit but that doesn t mean I would get 7 500 when I fill my 18 taxes right? That just means that what ever I owe in taxes would 7 500 less is that correct. I m trying to figure out the worth of getting the extended range if the credit is still there. I doubt the full one will be there whenever the short range is available to me which I m guessing is th fall at the earliest. I m an East coast non-owner. | typpeo | 2018-01-21 01:39:56 | 10 | dszreco | > I would qualify for the credit but that doesn t mean I would get 7 500 when I fill my 18 taxes right? Only if you fail to adjust your withholding. Since I m expecting the full $7 500 credit I ve already adjusted my withholding so that I have $7 500 26 less withheld per paycheck this year. > That just means that what ever I owe in taxes would 7 500 less is that correct Careful with the word owe as what you owe on April 15th has no effect on the credit (in other words withholding does not affect the credit s worth to you) but as u dubsteponmycat said it depends on your tax liability. Look at line 44 on last year s 1040 - if that number for 2018 is $7 500 or more then yes you end up paying a full $7 500 less to the IRS than you would otherwise. > I m trying to figure out the worth of getting the extended range if the credit is still there. That s up to you and remember the credit phases out. So if the $9 000 LR option (really $10 000 with taxes and financing) means you get the car 6 months later then the credit goes down $3 750. So it the LR only costs $9 000 (or $10 000 minus $3 750. I m an east coast non-owner as well and I don t think the LR is worth $9 000 but I m still getting it because of fears of the tax credit getting cut in half (and my state s credit as well). So the LR is probably only costing $5k for me and that plus the earlier delivery is worth it (to me). Also worth noting we *should* know when Tesla hits 200 000 domestic sales (the IRS requires notification and publishes tables) so it s not a bad idea to see when that happens and then make your decision. While there may be a lot of people in the same boat as you Tesla will have between 3-6 months to get cars out with the full credit so all of us could probably wait and then pick up the car in that timeframe (and pick SR if it s available pick LR if not). | rnelsonee | 2018-01-21 02:05:09 | 8 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
8f5mag | [Discussion] Tax credit phaseout reached? | Tesla supposedly produced 166k domestic units by the end of 2017. We know they delivered around 18k units in Q1 2018 which puts the grand total at 184k units. If the production rate is around 2k week of Model 3 and 2k week of S X that means in the 4 weeks of April they will have produced 16k units putting the total at the end of April at 200k units and triggering the phaseout of the federal tax credit as soon as this week. If half the units produced of S X are international that would only delay it by a couple of weeks but I don t see a scenario where they can hold off until next Q. Thoughts? | tesla123456 | 2018-04-26 19:54:16 | 34 | dy0ydxf | u Teslike always has best analysis on this IMO. Here s a post of theirs from two weeks ago Here is the latest: Scenario 1 (98% likely) * $7 500 for deliveries until Sep 30 2018 * $3 750 for deliveries until Mar 31 2019 * $1 875 for deliveries until Sep 30 2019 Scenario 2 (2% likely) * $7 500 for deliveries until Dec 31 2018 * $3 750 for deliveries until Jun 30 2019 * $1 875 for deliveries until Dec 31 2019 After Elon s tweets I have increased Scenario 1 from 96% to 98% because no AWD means fewer deliveries in Canada and more deliveries in the US in Q2. Here is my latest calculation: US sales at the end of Q1 2018: 180 762 US sales at the end of Q2 2018: 223 264 Estimated day Tesla will hit 200K US sales: 21 May 2018 https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 88o8hw april_2018_question_and_answer_megathread dx3f0zc | teslamodel3fan | 2018-04-26 22:00:49 | 20 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
8f5mag | [Discussion] Tax credit phaseout reached? | Tesla supposedly produced 166k domestic units by the end of 2017. We know they delivered around 18k units in Q1 2018 which puts the grand total at 184k units. If the production rate is around 2k week of Model 3 and 2k week of S X that means in the 4 weeks of April they will have produced 16k units putting the total at the end of April at 200k units and triggering the phaseout of the federal tax credit as soon as this week. If half the units produced of S X are international that would only delay it by a couple of weeks but I don t see a scenario where they can hold off until next Q. Thoughts? | tesla123456 | 2018-04-26 19:54:16 | 34 | dy0wfzm | Take this as you will.... I placed a model X order this week. The early delivery estimate is late June but I was casually asked by the Owner Advisor if I NEEDED to have the car by the end of June. He said NOTHING definitive about pushing it back to extend the credit another quarter. But it made me wonder if that is what he was inferring. It s in Tesla s best interest to keep that credit alive as long as possible. | butka | 2018-04-26 21:28:58 | 9 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
8f5mag | [Discussion] Tax credit phaseout reached? | Tesla supposedly produced 166k domestic units by the end of 2017. We know they delivered around 18k units in Q1 2018 which puts the grand total at 184k units. If the production rate is around 2k week of Model 3 and 2k week of S X that means in the 4 weeks of April they will have produced 16k units putting the total at the end of April at 200k units and triggering the phaseout of the federal tax credit as soon as this week. If half the units produced of S X are international that would only delay it by a couple of weeks but I don t see a scenario where they can hold off until next Q. Thoughts? | tesla123456 | 2018-04-26 19:54:16 | 34 | dy1ju50 | until they announce that they ve hit it before i would be shocked if they hit it any time before july 1. there s just too much financial incentive not to. i keep saying this and people keep disregarding it. i guess we ll see... | matty8199 | 2018-04-27 03:55:52 | 6 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
7qclqf | [Discussion] Tesla Nest Integration? | Posted this over on TMC as well but wanted to see if others would find this feature request of interest... I would like to see my Tesla be able to smart precondition my home. I utilize a Nest thermostat. The thermostat knows when I m away and sets the temperature accordingly. If I know when I am going to return I can start the A C or heat on in my home such that by the time I get back the house is at the preferred temperature. But what if my Tesla could do that for me? If I set the navigation to Home a really cool feature would be if the Tesla could trigger my Nest at the appropriate time (based on ETA) such that my house was at the desired temperature when the Tesla estimates I would return. Yes I know that this would require the use of a 3rd party app on the Tesla but would think this would be a pretty easy integration. | jorobsand | 2018-01-14 15:58:41 | 10 | dso8ctw | I ve worked with Nest before software wise. They are quite hesitant to share API access (aka allow us to give commands) to other vendors unless they agreed to a list of demands and sometimes not even then. One of them was things like the data you read had to be deleted after ten days. Maybe if you had another brand like Ecobee that could happen but I ll not hold my breath. | LadyTesla | 2018-01-14 17:57:01 | 7 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
axrd1s | [Discussion] Tesla Gamifying Driving? | I was browsing jobs at Tesla and saw this job posting: https: www.tesla.com careers job gaming-softwareengineer-45804 I wonder if they are trying to make first party games or something. I doubt they d hire game engineers to port more Linux emulators. It s also that it is up in Bellevue WA. Lots of game companies around up there (Bungie Valve etc.) | darknavi | 2019-03-05 22:47:25 | 14 | ehvjt98 | Elon got his start coding video games so I can totally see him wanting to roll something like this into Tesla. In fact I would expect to see more entertainment in general being built into the interface as we get closer and closer to FSD. | beenyweenies | 2019-03-05 22:55:49 | 13 | Tesla companion app features |
axrd1s | [Discussion] Tesla Gamifying Driving? | I was browsing jobs at Tesla and saw this job posting: https: www.tesla.com careers job gaming-softwareengineer-45804 I wonder if they are trying to make first party games or something. I doubt they d hire game engineers to port more Linux emulators. It s also that it is up in Bellevue WA. Lots of game companies around up there (Bungie Valve etc.) | darknavi | 2019-03-05 22:47:25 | 14 | ehvqee6 | They use things like Unreal engine etc to build simulated environments for autonomous driving testing Could be related | spongesqueeze | 2019-03-06 00:19:31 | 7 | Tesla companion app features |
8l0f2a | [Discussion] Tesla & GDPR? | As someone that has to work on this for a technology company.. its a huge huge pain in the ass. It is definitely for the good of the web but takes an extreme amount of effort to execute derails business timelines etc. Has anyone seen any update from TSLA regarding data privacy. 4 days left and I haven t heard a peep. Questions I have: * How they will delete user data from their records upon request? * Data officer? Who is it? * If someone requests deletion of all their autopilot data.. are they able to still use autopilot? I know the system functions completely without personal use data but if you re not contributing back to the whole should you be a allowed? * So many things about Tesla are tied to that user account record (including VIN assignment etc now Energy products). If someone makes a GDPR request on your behalf without you knowing it your account gets wiped and you may no longer have control over the car if someone else re-registers? | aarontj | 2018-05-21 12:26:10 | 16 | dzbwdm7 | I disagree with the notion that it s a huge huge PITA (your words) but am definitely interested in some of the answers. *Edit to clarify: Some things can be a hassle but in general it s only a huge huge PITA if you ve been ignoring the past 2-years the law was already in place AND the last 20? years the EU privacy directive was in place OR your business highly depends on violating consumer privacy. In the former case: your lack of planning doesn t amount to an emergency on our part in the latter case I m just glad this law is now enforcable.* Here s some initial thoughts. > How they will delete user data from their records upon request? I mean they can automatically create records for users... so they can probably automate the deletion process as well. I don t see a big issue here... > If someone requests deletion of all their autopilot data.. are they able to still use autopilot? Yes. Unless the data sharing is vital for the functionality of your autopilot it is specifically not allowed to exclude users because they choose not to share data. > If someone makes a GDPR request on your behalf without you knowing it your account gets wiped and you may no longer have control over the car if someone else re-registers? As with all data-sensitive requests it is very important that Tesla verifies they re actually communicating with you and giving you ample time to undo the change. If an account is required for the vehicle to operate you will probably not be able to fully wipe the account before the car isn t yours anymore. You will most likely be allowed to *anonymize* your account though but will lose access to certain recovery functionality if you do so (e.g. calling Tesla and asking them to track your car is not possible if they can t verify you own the car.) | huppie | 2018-05-21 13:12:42 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ashqx9 | [Discussion] Tesla Delivery Mishaps has driven me to the point of no longer wanting a model 3. | TL DR. Ordered a car scheduled delivery pushed back Told it was because of weather delays. 3 days later find out the car never left and they want $1000 more. Sorry about how long this is but I need to share the whole story. I m livid right now I had heard about how much better the experience of buying a vehicle from Tesla is over your standard dealer and I m having the opposite experience. So much so that I m on the verge of canceling my order and waiting for an auto manufacturer with their shit together to release an EV. After Test driving a model 3 a month ago I was sure I wanted to get one. I was having a hard time deciding between the long range awd and mid range rwd because I wanted the range but didn t need the AWD and I d be stretching to afford either. Someone from Tesla contacted me here on reddit actually and told me there was still some RWD long range models available. After emailing back and forth (from an @tesla email) and having him show me some vehicles online I found the perfect one. A White RWD Long range with a dealer adjustment of $1200 because it had 600 miles on it. After a few days of debating. I decided to pull the trigger and ordered I was losing sleep before I ordered and after I was waking up excited. The vehicle was located in Chicago I live in Maryland so I understood it would take some time for it to get here. My reddit Tesla contact told me it would take about 3 weeks so I ordered it expecting to have that much time to get things ready. I had a ski trip planned for this weekend and figured I d be fine since the car would be coming after. I was surprised a day after I ordered 2 12 with a text stating my expected delivery date was this Wednesday 2 20 (tomorrow). This gave me 8 days to prepare. Flustered and excited I sold some investments for my down payment shopped for loans hired an electrician and got offers on my current vehicle. On a whim I decided to try to sell my vehicle myself and quickly found an interested buyer who wants to pick up the vehicle up this week. I was told the vehicle would be arriving from Chicago to the delivery center last Saturday and they would be inspecting and detailing it for my pickup on Wednesday. I was surprised and disappointed when I received an email from my delivery guy yesterday at 10pm that my vehicle was delayed due to weather and my delivery date would have to be pushed back till Friday. I understand delays happen but I wanted more information at this point the vehicle was already supposed to be here where was it why did he wait 3 days to tell me wouldn t he have known last Friday that it was late? If I have to sell my current vehicle on Wednesday and receive the new one on Friday I could survive but I was worried it would be pushed back again and I would be car-less. After a few emails The delivery guy says there is another vehicle closer that matches my configuration but that it wouldn t come with the price adjustment the price adjustment is the reason I chose the vehicle. It offset the cost of the paint. I told him I wasn t interested. Asked if there were any LR-RWDs in black any with price adjustments and received no response. Frustrated not knowing where the vehicle I ordered was not knowing why I was being pushed to order something new not knowing if I should back out selling my current car I called Tesla who essentially told me they d have my delivery guy call me. He didn t he instead roped in someone from the local showroom in an email and I asked her to call me. On the phone she told me that the car I ordered had not left yet asked me if I was aware that there was a $1000 charge to ship the vehicle to my location. I said what!? Why is my delivery guy telling me the truck is delayed due to weather wouldn t this charge have showed up when I ordered the car it knows where I m expecting delivery. I almost feel like she s lying to scare me out of the car. My delivery guy straight up lied to me and reddit Tesla rep is MIA. All of the excitement of getting the vehicle has vanished. I feel lied to scammed. If this is how they treat potential new customers what am I in for when I m a current customer and need help. She s going to call me tomorrow to talk about options for other vehicles closer but to be honest I m very turned off by the entire process I m debating canceling and saving my money. **Update:** Reddit Tesla guy emailed me (I stopped talking to him when the delivery center took over). Told me he was confused car is on the way scheduled to be at my delivery center tomorrow. Maybe the local guys are confused? Will find out tomorrow. Also Thank you everyone for the words and opinions after the anger subsided a bit I m starting to feel the excitement coming back. I m hoping this all works out. **Update 2:** have heard from 2 Tesla people that my vehicle is on the way and scheduled to arrive at the delivery center tomorrow. Delivery still scheduled for Friday not sure why the local dealer told me it wasn t on the way and there would be a $1000 delivery charge **Update 3:** Just as I was feeling better about everything they crushed me again. On Friday I got a call in the morning asking if I was still available that day as they were planning on delivering the car around 5. Around 6 after hearing from no one i decided to email them. I got a reply Hey going to give you a call in a few minutes . at 9pm (3 hours later) I got a call. The car came in late they were rushing to get it to me a tpms sensor was going off on one of the wheels they tried to fix it but couldn t. a technician is going to work on it on saturday. On Saturday i got a text at 11am saying they were working on it. i asked for an update around 3 no response. On Monday today they called and said they re working on it and asked what time i could expect delivery today. i told them 430 5 but that i d need to leave work early. I called them at 2 to get an update and it doesnt seem like they are anywhere on it. Now i m terrified. If it takes 3 days to fix a tpms sensor. how long is it going to take when i need actual service? What else is wrong with the car. I already took 2 days of vacation and cancelled a trip because of this car for nothing and most of it could have been avoided if they just kept me in the loop. I don t know how much more i can take. | emodro | 2019-02-20 00:47:58 | 11 | eguht9r | Yeah...I stopped recommending Tesla because of my buying experience. Lot of people have similar stories. I had similar issues where everything was scheduled VIN assigned loan obtained current car sold. Then I was ghosted. DA ignored all emails and calls. Tesla folks I got in touch with were making stuff up. Best as I can tell the car was given to someone else. Finally got another one after about two weeks where I had to uber lyft and rent cars to get around. Ignore all those telling you that you are overreacting. You aren t! It is a great car but it does leave a really bad taste. | h3kta | 2019-02-20 01:35:47 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ashqx9 | [Discussion] Tesla Delivery Mishaps has driven me to the point of no longer wanting a model 3. | TL DR. Ordered a car scheduled delivery pushed back Told it was because of weather delays. 3 days later find out the car never left and they want $1000 more. Sorry about how long this is but I need to share the whole story. I m livid right now I had heard about how much better the experience of buying a vehicle from Tesla is over your standard dealer and I m having the opposite experience. So much so that I m on the verge of canceling my order and waiting for an auto manufacturer with their shit together to release an EV. After Test driving a model 3 a month ago I was sure I wanted to get one. I was having a hard time deciding between the long range awd and mid range rwd because I wanted the range but didn t need the AWD and I d be stretching to afford either. Someone from Tesla contacted me here on reddit actually and told me there was still some RWD long range models available. After emailing back and forth (from an @tesla email) and having him show me some vehicles online I found the perfect one. A White RWD Long range with a dealer adjustment of $1200 because it had 600 miles on it. After a few days of debating. I decided to pull the trigger and ordered I was losing sleep before I ordered and after I was waking up excited. The vehicle was located in Chicago I live in Maryland so I understood it would take some time for it to get here. My reddit Tesla contact told me it would take about 3 weeks so I ordered it expecting to have that much time to get things ready. I had a ski trip planned for this weekend and figured I d be fine since the car would be coming after. I was surprised a day after I ordered 2 12 with a text stating my expected delivery date was this Wednesday 2 20 (tomorrow). This gave me 8 days to prepare. Flustered and excited I sold some investments for my down payment shopped for loans hired an electrician and got offers on my current vehicle. On a whim I decided to try to sell my vehicle myself and quickly found an interested buyer who wants to pick up the vehicle up this week. I was told the vehicle would be arriving from Chicago to the delivery center last Saturday and they would be inspecting and detailing it for my pickup on Wednesday. I was surprised and disappointed when I received an email from my delivery guy yesterday at 10pm that my vehicle was delayed due to weather and my delivery date would have to be pushed back till Friday. I understand delays happen but I wanted more information at this point the vehicle was already supposed to be here where was it why did he wait 3 days to tell me wouldn t he have known last Friday that it was late? If I have to sell my current vehicle on Wednesday and receive the new one on Friday I could survive but I was worried it would be pushed back again and I would be car-less. After a few emails The delivery guy says there is another vehicle closer that matches my configuration but that it wouldn t come with the price adjustment the price adjustment is the reason I chose the vehicle. It offset the cost of the paint. I told him I wasn t interested. Asked if there were any LR-RWDs in black any with price adjustments and received no response. Frustrated not knowing where the vehicle I ordered was not knowing why I was being pushed to order something new not knowing if I should back out selling my current car I called Tesla who essentially told me they d have my delivery guy call me. He didn t he instead roped in someone from the local showroom in an email and I asked her to call me. On the phone she told me that the car I ordered had not left yet asked me if I was aware that there was a $1000 charge to ship the vehicle to my location. I said what!? Why is my delivery guy telling me the truck is delayed due to weather wouldn t this charge have showed up when I ordered the car it knows where I m expecting delivery. I almost feel like she s lying to scare me out of the car. My delivery guy straight up lied to me and reddit Tesla rep is MIA. All of the excitement of getting the vehicle has vanished. I feel lied to scammed. If this is how they treat potential new customers what am I in for when I m a current customer and need help. She s going to call me tomorrow to talk about options for other vehicles closer but to be honest I m very turned off by the entire process I m debating canceling and saving my money. **Update:** Reddit Tesla guy emailed me (I stopped talking to him when the delivery center took over). Told me he was confused car is on the way scheduled to be at my delivery center tomorrow. Maybe the local guys are confused? Will find out tomorrow. Also Thank you everyone for the words and opinions after the anger subsided a bit I m starting to feel the excitement coming back. I m hoping this all works out. **Update 2:** have heard from 2 Tesla people that my vehicle is on the way and scheduled to arrive at the delivery center tomorrow. Delivery still scheduled for Friday not sure why the local dealer told me it wasn t on the way and there would be a $1000 delivery charge **Update 3:** Just as I was feeling better about everything they crushed me again. On Friday I got a call in the morning asking if I was still available that day as they were planning on delivering the car around 5. Around 6 after hearing from no one i decided to email them. I got a reply Hey going to give you a call in a few minutes . at 9pm (3 hours later) I got a call. The car came in late they were rushing to get it to me a tpms sensor was going off on one of the wheels they tried to fix it but couldn t. a technician is going to work on it on saturday. On Saturday i got a text at 11am saying they were working on it. i asked for an update around 3 no response. On Monday today they called and said they re working on it and asked what time i could expect delivery today. i told them 430 5 but that i d need to leave work early. I called them at 2 to get an update and it doesnt seem like they are anywhere on it. Now i m terrified. If it takes 3 days to fix a tpms sensor. how long is it going to take when i need actual service? What else is wrong with the car. I already took 2 days of vacation and cancelled a trip because of this car for nothing and most of it could have been avoided if they just kept me in the loop. I don t know how much more i can take. | emodro | 2019-02-20 00:47:58 | 11 | eguifg7 | Funny After owning my model 3 for 2 months now I feel like every other car maker has lied to me and scammed me all these years... The car is light years ahead of anything else. That being said I Don t think they lied to you I just think the company is in it s infancy and there are a lot of parts that do not communicate well with one another... While they did not tell you about the delivery fee I would guess they were not aware them selves... I had a similar experience when buying mine I put the $2500 deposit and was told I only needed to put another $2500 down to make the purchase... When financing came through I ended up putting around $9000 down total. All that being said I didn t mind one bit I love my car and it s a joy to drive let drive Everytime. I ended up with LRAWD with eap. | GuruTheMan | 2019-02-20 01:43:39 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ashqx9 | [Discussion] Tesla Delivery Mishaps has driven me to the point of no longer wanting a model 3. | TL DR. Ordered a car scheduled delivery pushed back Told it was because of weather delays. 3 days later find out the car never left and they want $1000 more. Sorry about how long this is but I need to share the whole story. I m livid right now I had heard about how much better the experience of buying a vehicle from Tesla is over your standard dealer and I m having the opposite experience. So much so that I m on the verge of canceling my order and waiting for an auto manufacturer with their shit together to release an EV. After Test driving a model 3 a month ago I was sure I wanted to get one. I was having a hard time deciding between the long range awd and mid range rwd because I wanted the range but didn t need the AWD and I d be stretching to afford either. Someone from Tesla contacted me here on reddit actually and told me there was still some RWD long range models available. After emailing back and forth (from an @tesla email) and having him show me some vehicles online I found the perfect one. A White RWD Long range with a dealer adjustment of $1200 because it had 600 miles on it. After a few days of debating. I decided to pull the trigger and ordered I was losing sleep before I ordered and after I was waking up excited. The vehicle was located in Chicago I live in Maryland so I understood it would take some time for it to get here. My reddit Tesla contact told me it would take about 3 weeks so I ordered it expecting to have that much time to get things ready. I had a ski trip planned for this weekend and figured I d be fine since the car would be coming after. I was surprised a day after I ordered 2 12 with a text stating my expected delivery date was this Wednesday 2 20 (tomorrow). This gave me 8 days to prepare. Flustered and excited I sold some investments for my down payment shopped for loans hired an electrician and got offers on my current vehicle. On a whim I decided to try to sell my vehicle myself and quickly found an interested buyer who wants to pick up the vehicle up this week. I was told the vehicle would be arriving from Chicago to the delivery center last Saturday and they would be inspecting and detailing it for my pickup on Wednesday. I was surprised and disappointed when I received an email from my delivery guy yesterday at 10pm that my vehicle was delayed due to weather and my delivery date would have to be pushed back till Friday. I understand delays happen but I wanted more information at this point the vehicle was already supposed to be here where was it why did he wait 3 days to tell me wouldn t he have known last Friday that it was late? If I have to sell my current vehicle on Wednesday and receive the new one on Friday I could survive but I was worried it would be pushed back again and I would be car-less. After a few emails The delivery guy says there is another vehicle closer that matches my configuration but that it wouldn t come with the price adjustment the price adjustment is the reason I chose the vehicle. It offset the cost of the paint. I told him I wasn t interested. Asked if there were any LR-RWDs in black any with price adjustments and received no response. Frustrated not knowing where the vehicle I ordered was not knowing why I was being pushed to order something new not knowing if I should back out selling my current car I called Tesla who essentially told me they d have my delivery guy call me. He didn t he instead roped in someone from the local showroom in an email and I asked her to call me. On the phone she told me that the car I ordered had not left yet asked me if I was aware that there was a $1000 charge to ship the vehicle to my location. I said what!? Why is my delivery guy telling me the truck is delayed due to weather wouldn t this charge have showed up when I ordered the car it knows where I m expecting delivery. I almost feel like she s lying to scare me out of the car. My delivery guy straight up lied to me and reddit Tesla rep is MIA. All of the excitement of getting the vehicle has vanished. I feel lied to scammed. If this is how they treat potential new customers what am I in for when I m a current customer and need help. She s going to call me tomorrow to talk about options for other vehicles closer but to be honest I m very turned off by the entire process I m debating canceling and saving my money. **Update:** Reddit Tesla guy emailed me (I stopped talking to him when the delivery center took over). Told me he was confused car is on the way scheduled to be at my delivery center tomorrow. Maybe the local guys are confused? Will find out tomorrow. Also Thank you everyone for the words and opinions after the anger subsided a bit I m starting to feel the excitement coming back. I m hoping this all works out. **Update 2:** have heard from 2 Tesla people that my vehicle is on the way and scheduled to arrive at the delivery center tomorrow. Delivery still scheduled for Friday not sure why the local dealer told me it wasn t on the way and there would be a $1000 delivery charge **Update 3:** Just as I was feeling better about everything they crushed me again. On Friday I got a call in the morning asking if I was still available that day as they were planning on delivering the car around 5. Around 6 after hearing from no one i decided to email them. I got a reply Hey going to give you a call in a few minutes . at 9pm (3 hours later) I got a call. The car came in late they were rushing to get it to me a tpms sensor was going off on one of the wheels they tried to fix it but couldn t. a technician is going to work on it on saturday. On Saturday i got a text at 11am saying they were working on it. i asked for an update around 3 no response. On Monday today they called and said they re working on it and asked what time i could expect delivery today. i told them 430 5 but that i d need to leave work early. I called them at 2 to get an update and it doesnt seem like they are anywhere on it. Now i m terrified. If it takes 3 days to fix a tpms sensor. how long is it going to take when i need actual service? What else is wrong with the car. I already took 2 days of vacation and cancelled a trip because of this car for nothing and most of it could have been avoided if they just kept me in the loop. I don t know how much more i can take. | emodro | 2019-02-20 00:47:58 | 11 | eguf3u4 | I have a feeling you would have had way less issue if you had just ordered through the configurator insted of picking one far away with a discount. I think there is always a $1k delivery fee if you get delivered at home..not sure. Also it s only been a week since you ordered on 2 12 . Your car is comming you re having the same issue as everyone: bad tesla communication. | Cubicbill1 | 2019-02-20 01:00:55 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9k7kkl | [Discussion] Tesla Leaps Ahead of the Competition with V9 Software! | MARKET IMPACT: A few BIG points that I have not seen discussed with the imminent advent of V9 software. First this leaves all of the other autonomous driving systems available in other vehicles to consumers in the horse and buggy age. Cadillac. BMW Audi Porsche etc. all will be in catch up mode. Further it is done without LIDAR. Second no other system displays as much information to the driver in real time. Third the only car with built in DASH-CAM functionality and the ability to expand it further by both adding cameras and enhanced video processing (especially when the new FSD computer becomes available). Only systems that cost tens of thousands more and are not available to consumers can offer similar capabilities. The pressure to match Tesla s capabilities will be huge! | barjohn5670 | 2018-09-30 16:16:40 | 182 | e6wyp5w | On a high level especially for the S and X it shows Tesla s ability to continuously improve the experience with their vehicles at an OS level that no other auto maker seems close to. They really make up for the lack of physical buttons with continuous improvement of the software. My new ‘broken record line when talking to others is “why would you buy a car now that won t improve itself over time?” That being said competition is healthy so I look forward to seeing what others bring to the table. For the next 3 years my guess is that will only be Lucid Motors. Porsche is cool but I doubt their OS will be as in-depth as Tesla s | ChromeDome5 | 2018-09-30 16:38:19 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9k7kkl | [Discussion] Tesla Leaps Ahead of the Competition with V9 Software! | MARKET IMPACT: A few BIG points that I have not seen discussed with the imminent advent of V9 software. First this leaves all of the other autonomous driving systems available in other vehicles to consumers in the horse and buggy age. Cadillac. BMW Audi Porsche etc. all will be in catch up mode. Further it is done without LIDAR. Second no other system displays as much information to the driver in real time. Third the only car with built in DASH-CAM functionality and the ability to expand it further by both adding cameras and enhanced video processing (especially when the new FSD computer becomes available). Only systems that cost tens of thousands more and are not available to consumers can offer similar capabilities. The pressure to match Tesla s capabilities will be huge! | barjohn5670 | 2018-09-30 16:16:40 | 182 | e6x4bqk | > Cadillac. BMW Audi Porsche etc. all will be in catch up mode. Still have to have your hands on the wheel and pay attention. Audi has true Level 3. Tesla needs to get EAP to level 3\\4 for interstates before they can claim to have a notable lead. Otherwise it s just degrees of level 2 quality which is a bit like having The World s Best Hamburger Bun impressive but not a whole lot to brag about in the grand scheme of things. When I can watch Harry Potter on a road trip... then we can celebrate. | im_thatoneguy | 2018-09-30 17:58:30 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9k7kkl | [Discussion] Tesla Leaps Ahead of the Competition with V9 Software! | MARKET IMPACT: A few BIG points that I have not seen discussed with the imminent advent of V9 software. First this leaves all of the other autonomous driving systems available in other vehicles to consumers in the horse and buggy age. Cadillac. BMW Audi Porsche etc. all will be in catch up mode. Further it is done without LIDAR. Second no other system displays as much information to the driver in real time. Third the only car with built in DASH-CAM functionality and the ability to expand it further by both adding cameras and enhanced video processing (especially when the new FSD computer becomes available). Only systems that cost tens of thousands more and are not available to consumers can offer similar capabilities. The pressure to match Tesla s capabilities will be huge! | barjohn5670 | 2018-09-30 16:16:40 | 182 | e6wyejj | Perhaps we are too focused on FSD when V9 provides (my understanding) Auto-drive with navigation. A huge step forward IMHO. | hmspain | 2018-09-30 16:33:42 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9k7kkl | [Discussion] Tesla Leaps Ahead of the Competition with V9 Software! | MARKET IMPACT: A few BIG points that I have not seen discussed with the imminent advent of V9 software. First this leaves all of the other autonomous driving systems available in other vehicles to consumers in the horse and buggy age. Cadillac. BMW Audi Porsche etc. all will be in catch up mode. Further it is done without LIDAR. Second no other system displays as much information to the driver in real time. Third the only car with built in DASH-CAM functionality and the ability to expand it further by both adding cameras and enhanced video processing (especially when the new FSD computer becomes available). Only systems that cost tens of thousands more and are not available to consumers can offer similar capabilities. The pressure to match Tesla s capabilities will be huge! | barjohn5670 | 2018-09-30 16:16:40 | 182 | e6x6eit | Does your opinion that v9 leaves all behind stick now that we know v9 adds no autonomy? | beastpilot | 2018-09-30 18:24:47 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9k7kkl | [Discussion] Tesla Leaps Ahead of the Competition with V9 Software! | MARKET IMPACT: A few BIG points that I have not seen discussed with the imminent advent of V9 software. First this leaves all of the other autonomous driving systems available in other vehicles to consumers in the horse and buggy age. Cadillac. BMW Audi Porsche etc. all will be in catch up mode. Further it is done without LIDAR. Second no other system displays as much information to the driver in real time. Third the only car with built in DASH-CAM functionality and the ability to expand it further by both adding cameras and enhanced video processing (especially when the new FSD computer becomes available). Only systems that cost tens of thousands more and are not available to consumers can offer similar capabilities. The pressure to match Tesla s capabilities will be huge! | barjohn5670 | 2018-09-30 16:16:40 | 182 | e6x1124 | They were ahead before. They are more ahead. However the value proposition remains the same. Pay attention be ready to take over at any moment keep your hands on the wheel and it will move the steering wheel for you. Until they change this value proposition to under these circumstances you can look at the scenery and day dream it s approximately the same value to the end user. | analyticaljoe | 2018-09-30 17:13:14 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9k7kkl | [Discussion] Tesla Leaps Ahead of the Competition with V9 Software! | MARKET IMPACT: A few BIG points that I have not seen discussed with the imminent advent of V9 software. First this leaves all of the other autonomous driving systems available in other vehicles to consumers in the horse and buggy age. Cadillac. BMW Audi Porsche etc. all will be in catch up mode. Further it is done without LIDAR. Second no other system displays as much information to the driver in real time. Third the only car with built in DASH-CAM functionality and the ability to expand it further by both adding cameras and enhanced video processing (especially when the new FSD computer becomes available). Only systems that cost tens of thousands more and are not available to consumers can offer similar capabilities. The pressure to match Tesla s capabilities will be huge! | barjohn5670 | 2018-09-30 16:16:40 | 182 | e6wxlvh | So it s as good as Waymo s stuff right? s I m really interested in the *real* FSD stuff. | croninsiglos | 2018-09-30 16:21:02 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bcj0e3 | [Discussion] Tesla Leasing - such a good sign that Tesla leases will NOT allow buyouts at end of the lease because of self driving Ride hailing Tesla fleet. I am not sure how the lease wording will look but that is a HUGE positive sign in my book. | This is putting a 3 year timeline on FSD lvl 4 5. This is a giant risk if in the contracts for the lease they don t all buyouts. It is also a brilliant idea to sell more cars and have a fleet ready in a few years for ride hailing. I do wonder with Elon and Tesla and all the changes on the fly and seemingly not caring about optics if they are just banking this FSD demo and how far ahead it will show everyone they are. https: www.tesla.com blog update-our-vehicle-lineup?redirect=no Please note customers who choose leasing over owning will not have the option to purchase their car at the end of the lease because with full autonomy coming in the future via an over-the-air software update we plan to use those vehicles in the Tesla ride-hailing network. Customers can visit tesla.com 3 now to lease a Model 3. | hoppeeness | 2019-04-12 21:22:07 | 20 | ekr3nok | And in 5 months when they change this decision what will be your thoughts then? | PM_ME_UR_DECOLLETAGE | 2019-04-12 21:43:35 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bcj0e3 | [Discussion] Tesla Leasing - such a good sign that Tesla leases will NOT allow buyouts at end of the lease because of self driving Ride hailing Tesla fleet. I am not sure how the lease wording will look but that is a HUGE positive sign in my book. | This is putting a 3 year timeline on FSD lvl 4 5. This is a giant risk if in the contracts for the lease they don t all buyouts. It is also a brilliant idea to sell more cars and have a fleet ready in a few years for ride hailing. I do wonder with Elon and Tesla and all the changes on the fly and seemingly not caring about optics if they are just banking this FSD demo and how far ahead it will show everyone they are. https: www.tesla.com blog update-our-vehicle-lineup?redirect=no Please note customers who choose leasing over owning will not have the option to purchase their car at the end of the lease because with full autonomy coming in the future via an over-the-air software update we plan to use those vehicles in the Tesla ride-hailing network. Customers can visit tesla.com 3 now to lease a Model 3. | hoppeeness | 2019-04-12 21:22:07 | 20 | ekr8pnm | The FSD stuff is smoke and mirror. Tesla did it this way so they can have artificially low residual value for their lease car so they can sell it for more once lease is over thus double dip on the revenue for the same car. Someone on TMC did the math and the residual value for the SR+ is something like $14k after 30k miles. That is absurdly low. But instead of letting the customer buy it for $14k at the end they will take it back sell it as CPO for $24k and make an extra $10k. But sure let s use FSD and ride hailing to cash in on the Uber IPO hype. | cookingboy | 2019-04-12 22:40:05 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bcj0e3 | [Discussion] Tesla Leasing - such a good sign that Tesla leases will NOT allow buyouts at end of the lease because of self driving Ride hailing Tesla fleet. I am not sure how the lease wording will look but that is a HUGE positive sign in my book. | This is putting a 3 year timeline on FSD lvl 4 5. This is a giant risk if in the contracts for the lease they don t all buyouts. It is also a brilliant idea to sell more cars and have a fleet ready in a few years for ride hailing. I do wonder with Elon and Tesla and all the changes on the fly and seemingly not caring about optics if they are just banking this FSD demo and how far ahead it will show everyone they are. https: www.tesla.com blog update-our-vehicle-lineup?redirect=no Please note customers who choose leasing over owning will not have the option to purchase their car at the end of the lease because with full autonomy coming in the future via an over-the-air software update we plan to use those vehicles in the Tesla ride-hailing network. Customers can visit tesla.com 3 now to lease a Model 3. | hoppeeness | 2019-04-12 21:22:07 | 20 | ekr6g1k | This a marketing ploy for the upcoming AP demo. I would not believe this to indicate anything from a technical perspective. | JFreader | 2019-04-12 22:14:29 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aspzat | [Discussion] Tesla Logistics. 4000 cars on a port. A documentary would be cool to see. | The logistical steps to get 4000 cars on a San Francisco pier from the factory must be so interesting. It s like a military operation. How many trucks? How many days? How many coordinators? Risks? Timing? Drivers? Ship captains? City officials? It s all fascinating. https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1098009983931707393 | ShaqLuvsTesla | 2019-02-20 16:00:46 | 22 | egvv06e | It s pretty normal. | eff50 | 2019-02-20 16:08:58 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aspzat | [Discussion] Tesla Logistics. 4000 cars on a port. A documentary would be cool to see. | The logistical steps to get 4000 cars on a San Francisco pier from the factory must be so interesting. It s like a military operation. How many trucks? How many days? How many coordinators? Risks? Timing? Drivers? Ship captains? City officials? It s all fascinating. https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1098009983931707393 | ShaqLuvsTesla | 2019-02-20 16:00:46 | 22 | egvyc4a | Every OEM has been doing this weekly for decades. | dc21111 | 2019-02-20 16:47:18 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aa2fqd | [Discussion] Tesla Mobile Repair is a game changer | TLDR: I m currently sitting on the couch in my pajamas drinking my coffee while my Model 3 fog light is repaired for free in my driveway. Compare that to my Honda airbag repair which required two drives to the dealership rude customer service and the cost of a few Ubers. Before I dive in I ll just prepare myself for the onslaught of Redditor comments saying “cool story bro” “my ICE dealer service was good” “you suck” and “I hate you” **Tesla Experience** A few weeks ago I noticed a fog light was out on my Model 3 so Tesla mobile service came to my office to repair it. The technician was super polite and all I had to do was unlock my car (on the ground floor) remotely from my desk (on the 18th floor). Unfortunately the technician discovered that it looked like an animal chewed through the wiring harness (he texted me pictures of the damage) and he didn t have the part to replace it. He ordered the part and apologized for not being able to fix it. No problem. Fast forward to today. I slept in made my coffee and sat in my PJs watching TV when Tesla mobile service rolled up to my house introduced himself and had me pull my car out of the garage. In fact I didn t have to leave the house (I could have Summoned the car out of the garage) but I wanted to meet the technician. I chatted him up a bit about the car and his experience with Tesla. I took some pictures so you can all see how cool the insides are. Oh and the repair was covered under warranty so no cost to me! [Me being a creeper](https: imgur.com f1avUBZ) [Under the hood #1](https: imgur.com VZjysQi) [Under the hood #2](https: imgur.com dPUCVDG) [Under the hood #3](https: imgur.com bbd2APU) [Repair tech at work](https: imgur.com PINsQOa) **Honda Experience** A few years ago I had to get my not-very-old Honda air bag fixed due to the Takata recall. I had to drive 25 minutes to the dealership they didn t give me a loaner (despite promising me one over the phone) were very rude (probably because they weren t making money on the repair) and sent me home with a courtesy shuttle driver who “shush” d me when I tried to give him directions to my house because he couldn t get the voice recognition to work in the Honda minivan. Two hours later I get a call saying my car is ready. I pay for an Uber to the dealer get in my car and as I m driving off the passenger airbag light comes on. I turn around and ask them to fix it. They say it wasn t their fault (???) but agreed to fix it. Courtesy shuttle was unavailable so I Uber home and come back in an Uber after another two hours. Car was fixed and they gave me a free oil change for the hassle. Apparently they forgot to connect the new airbag. All in all took 4-5 hours without a car and $20 in Ubers. & #x200B This is why I love Tesla. They re polite - both mobile service techs were very friendly and answered my questions. They care about the customer - the repair was free even though it was likely an animal that did the damage. They re innovative - mobile service saves them cost on building leases and makes it more convenient for me. Anybody else have similar mobile repair experiences? | kittyburritoeater | 2018-12-27 19:42:31 | 41 | ecoga1y | You bought a $50 000 car and are comparing service to a Honda? | feurie | 2018-12-27 20:01:21 | 15 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
aa2fqd | [Discussion] Tesla Mobile Repair is a game changer | TLDR: I m currently sitting on the couch in my pajamas drinking my coffee while my Model 3 fog light is repaired for free in my driveway. Compare that to my Honda airbag repair which required two drives to the dealership rude customer service and the cost of a few Ubers. Before I dive in I ll just prepare myself for the onslaught of Redditor comments saying “cool story bro” “my ICE dealer service was good” “you suck” and “I hate you” **Tesla Experience** A few weeks ago I noticed a fog light was out on my Model 3 so Tesla mobile service came to my office to repair it. The technician was super polite and all I had to do was unlock my car (on the ground floor) remotely from my desk (on the 18th floor). Unfortunately the technician discovered that it looked like an animal chewed through the wiring harness (he texted me pictures of the damage) and he didn t have the part to replace it. He ordered the part and apologized for not being able to fix it. No problem. Fast forward to today. I slept in made my coffee and sat in my PJs watching TV when Tesla mobile service rolled up to my house introduced himself and had me pull my car out of the garage. In fact I didn t have to leave the house (I could have Summoned the car out of the garage) but I wanted to meet the technician. I chatted him up a bit about the car and his experience with Tesla. I took some pictures so you can all see how cool the insides are. Oh and the repair was covered under warranty so no cost to me! [Me being a creeper](https: imgur.com f1avUBZ) [Under the hood #1](https: imgur.com VZjysQi) [Under the hood #2](https: imgur.com dPUCVDG) [Under the hood #3](https: imgur.com bbd2APU) [Repair tech at work](https: imgur.com PINsQOa) **Honda Experience** A few years ago I had to get my not-very-old Honda air bag fixed due to the Takata recall. I had to drive 25 minutes to the dealership they didn t give me a loaner (despite promising me one over the phone) were very rude (probably because they weren t making money on the repair) and sent me home with a courtesy shuttle driver who “shush” d me when I tried to give him directions to my house because he couldn t get the voice recognition to work in the Honda minivan. Two hours later I get a call saying my car is ready. I pay for an Uber to the dealer get in my car and as I m driving off the passenger airbag light comes on. I turn around and ask them to fix it. They say it wasn t their fault (???) but agreed to fix it. Courtesy shuttle was unavailable so I Uber home and come back in an Uber after another two hours. Car was fixed and they gave me a free oil change for the hassle. Apparently they forgot to connect the new airbag. All in all took 4-5 hours without a car and $20 in Ubers. & #x200B This is why I love Tesla. They re polite - both mobile service techs were very friendly and answered my questions. They care about the customer - the repair was free even though it was likely an animal that did the damage. They re innovative - mobile service saves them cost on building leases and makes it more convenient for me. Anybody else have similar mobile repair experiences? | kittyburritoeater | 2018-12-27 19:42:31 | 41 | ecoik78 | I called for a mobile repair they said I d get a call back to schedule 2 - 3 days later...that was 2 weeks ago. | jimmyphotocall | 2018-12-27 20:32:49 | 10 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
aa2fqd | [Discussion] Tesla Mobile Repair is a game changer | TLDR: I m currently sitting on the couch in my pajamas drinking my coffee while my Model 3 fog light is repaired for free in my driveway. Compare that to my Honda airbag repair which required two drives to the dealership rude customer service and the cost of a few Ubers. Before I dive in I ll just prepare myself for the onslaught of Redditor comments saying “cool story bro” “my ICE dealer service was good” “you suck” and “I hate you” **Tesla Experience** A few weeks ago I noticed a fog light was out on my Model 3 so Tesla mobile service came to my office to repair it. The technician was super polite and all I had to do was unlock my car (on the ground floor) remotely from my desk (on the 18th floor). Unfortunately the technician discovered that it looked like an animal chewed through the wiring harness (he texted me pictures of the damage) and he didn t have the part to replace it. He ordered the part and apologized for not being able to fix it. No problem. Fast forward to today. I slept in made my coffee and sat in my PJs watching TV when Tesla mobile service rolled up to my house introduced himself and had me pull my car out of the garage. In fact I didn t have to leave the house (I could have Summoned the car out of the garage) but I wanted to meet the technician. I chatted him up a bit about the car and his experience with Tesla. I took some pictures so you can all see how cool the insides are. Oh and the repair was covered under warranty so no cost to me! [Me being a creeper](https: imgur.com f1avUBZ) [Under the hood #1](https: imgur.com VZjysQi) [Under the hood #2](https: imgur.com dPUCVDG) [Under the hood #3](https: imgur.com bbd2APU) [Repair tech at work](https: imgur.com PINsQOa) **Honda Experience** A few years ago I had to get my not-very-old Honda air bag fixed due to the Takata recall. I had to drive 25 minutes to the dealership they didn t give me a loaner (despite promising me one over the phone) were very rude (probably because they weren t making money on the repair) and sent me home with a courtesy shuttle driver who “shush” d me when I tried to give him directions to my house because he couldn t get the voice recognition to work in the Honda minivan. Two hours later I get a call saying my car is ready. I pay for an Uber to the dealer get in my car and as I m driving off the passenger airbag light comes on. I turn around and ask them to fix it. They say it wasn t their fault (???) but agreed to fix it. Courtesy shuttle was unavailable so I Uber home and come back in an Uber after another two hours. Car was fixed and they gave me a free oil change for the hassle. Apparently they forgot to connect the new airbag. All in all took 4-5 hours without a car and $20 in Ubers. & #x200B This is why I love Tesla. They re polite - both mobile service techs were very friendly and answered my questions. They care about the customer - the repair was free even though it was likely an animal that did the damage. They re innovative - mobile service saves them cost on building leases and makes it more convenient for me. Anybody else have similar mobile repair experiences? | kittyburritoeater | 2018-12-27 19:42:31 | 41 | ecojdmn | I ve requested mobile repair on all my appointments and never received a call back regarding changing it from the service center appointment (for issues other people have gotten mobile service to repair). Wish I could try it as my service center appointments have been less than gratifying. | mahkus11 | 2018-12-27 20:43:38 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7b43zh | [Discussion] Tesla Model 3 Owners: I m a huge guy and barely fit into my Toyota Rav4. Would I fit into the Model 3? | I m rather huge and it s hard to find a car that s comfortable. I currently have a Rav4 the driver seat for which fits me but only just. Would I fit into a Model 3 or should I avoid the embarrassment of trying? | ihatehowilook | 2017-11-06 09:28:42 | 23 | dpf2ygf | I would recommend to schedule a test drive when these come available. It will take some time but will prevent you from buying a car you won t fit in. | BoredPudding | 2017-11-06 09:51:58 | 11 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
7b43zh | [Discussion] Tesla Model 3 Owners: I m a huge guy and barely fit into my Toyota Rav4. Would I fit into the Model 3? | I m rather huge and it s hard to find a car that s comfortable. I currently have a Rav4 the driver seat for which fits me but only just. Would I fit into a Model 3 or should I avoid the embarrassment of trying? | ihatehowilook | 2017-11-06 09:28:42 | 23 | dpfaw7l | Its getting harder to understand what people mean because of the cancer of political correctness. Are you a fat ass? Are you tall? Are you tall and muscular? | putittogetherNOW | 2017-11-06 14:14:17 | 10 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
7b43zh | [Discussion] Tesla Model 3 Owners: I m a huge guy and barely fit into my Toyota Rav4. Would I fit into the Model 3? | I m rather huge and it s hard to find a car that s comfortable. I currently have a Rav4 the driver seat for which fits me but only just. Would I fit into a Model 3 or should I avoid the embarrassment of trying? | ihatehowilook | 2017-11-06 09:28:42 | 23 | dpfc9yb | Huge is a rather relative term but I ll take a stab at this since most people call me huge. I m 6 6 and weigh ~280lbs. I have a 40 waist but can t remember my chest size from my last shirt fitting. I can fit in a RAV4 somewhat comfortably but it s still a little snug. Sitting in a Model S for a test drive was a little snug as well. The Model 3 is surprisingly close to the S in terms of passenger dimensions so I d imagine it won t be too bad. Another comparison would be other compact luxury cars. I currently drive an Infiniti G37 which competes in the class. My knees touch the dash if I slouch in the seat and onlookers think I look too big for the car but I ve managed day long road trips without my legs falling asleep. I d imagine the 3 should be similarly manageable. I ve spent years forcing myself to fit into small(for me) cars like a Mitsubishi 3000GT or Nissan 350Z so I ve managed to convince myself that snug can be comfy. Examples of cars I could not make work due to my size include Honda S2000 Chrysler Crossfire Mercedes SLK and Mazda MX-5. Also I recently had to skip out on a test drive of a current gen Corvette because I couldn t manage to find a comfortable seating position in the couple of minutes I had to try and make it work. Hopefully this is enough information to give you an idea of the relative fit for you compared to me and I hope you re able to comfortably cram into one of these things the way I plan to. | omg_yeti | 2017-11-06 14:44:12 | 6 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
7v445a | [Discussion] Tesla Model 3 in severe winter conditions | I ve been putting thought into the feasibility of operating a Tesla vehicle in Northern British Columbia Canada. We frequently get -30°c temperatures up to 14 inches of snow overnight and complete whiteout conditions on the highway. I m curious as to how this would affect both standard operation and autopilot operation of the Tesla Model 3 (or others). My home also lacks a heated shop or carport so I m unsure how charging could be possible. I have seen this question raised in other areas on the internet but never in the extreme conditions I live in. | kekmememaster420 | 2018-02-04 02:46:19 | 47 | dtpmlg6 | Page 105 in the Tesla Model 3 Owners Manual: > **Temperature Limits** > For better long-term performance avoid exposing Model 3 to ambient temperatures above 140° F (60° C) or below -22° F (-30° C) for more than 24 hours at a time. | Captain_Alaska | 2018-02-04 07:00:00 | 18 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7v445a | [Discussion] Tesla Model 3 in severe winter conditions | I ve been putting thought into the feasibility of operating a Tesla vehicle in Northern British Columbia Canada. We frequently get -30°c temperatures up to 14 inches of snow overnight and complete whiteout conditions on the highway. I m curious as to how this would affect both standard operation and autopilot operation of the Tesla Model 3 (or others). My home also lacks a heated shop or carport so I m unsure how charging could be possible. I have seen this question raised in other areas on the internet but never in the extreme conditions I live in. | kekmememaster420 | 2018-02-04 02:46:19 | 47 | dtpdlnb | There are tons of Tesla in Norway which I believe have similar temperatures. Autopilot will not work in those conditions for a very long time if at all on Model 3. Basically keep it plugged in overnight and make sure to pre-heat as soon as you wake up. | mechrock | 2018-02-04 03:13:51 | 15 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7v445a | [Discussion] Tesla Model 3 in severe winter conditions | I ve been putting thought into the feasibility of operating a Tesla vehicle in Northern British Columbia Canada. We frequently get -30°c temperatures up to 14 inches of snow overnight and complete whiteout conditions on the highway. I m curious as to how this would affect both standard operation and autopilot operation of the Tesla Model 3 (or others). My home also lacks a heated shop or carport so I m unsure how charging could be possible. I have seen this question raised in other areas on the internet but never in the extreme conditions I live in. | kekmememaster420 | 2018-02-04 02:46:19 | 47 | dtpin0l | It ll have about as much luck as we do trying to drive in winter conditions it s smart enough to not try though. We guess where the road might be and try our best not to hit the ditch. (trying to figure out where the lanes are in Winnipeg can be quite the guessing game.) Another factor against the poor auto-pilot is icy conditions. I was watching one of Bjørn s videos he was trying to drive in icy conditions and the car got very annoyed the entire nose was covered in ice and the sensors were totally obscured. (the cameras have heaters to keep the ice off them but the sonar radar don t) And as everyone else said keep it plugged in at home and let it heat itself up in the morning. If I recall it ll even heat it s battery up now. | skywise_ca | 2018-02-04 05:09:29 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7zhwmq | [Discussion] Tesla Model S owners who switched to the Model 3 - why did you do it? | Did the numbers line up? Was your monthly cheaper? Did Tesla give you a fair price? I am contemplating putting a reservation down for a 3 but so close to paying off my MS I d love to hear everyone else s justification as to why they downgraded to a 3. | FerraraZ | 2018-02-22 20:09:08 | 16 | dup2bdt | I am *upgrading* from MS40 to Model 3. For me it is an upgrade in almost all respects (except hatchback+storage). My Model S has no autopilot 130 mile range no supercharger access 3G is larger than I want etc. Model 3 has all those goodies and more even though it should cost less. | VoiceOfSoftware | 2018-02-23 06:51:07 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7zhwmq | [Discussion] Tesla Model S owners who switched to the Model 3 - why did you do it? | Did the numbers line up? Was your monthly cheaper? Did Tesla give you a fair price? I am contemplating putting a reservation down for a 3 but so close to paying off my MS I d love to hear everyone else s justification as to why they downgraded to a 3. | FerraraZ | 2018-02-22 20:09:08 | 16 | dupa73y | I thought about switching because I had a narrow driveway. I got a different driveway instead. | livetorideridetowood | 2018-02-23 11:48:32 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
96fj87 | [Discussion] Tesla Parking Aid Systems: why are they so basic compared to some of the other manufacturers? | Hello everyone I am a recent Model X owner and so far I m loving the car. Having switched a Range Rover to a Model X you really appreciate how amazing Teslas are in terms of ride quality speed manoeuvring and general convenience EXCEPT for the parking cameras. I am sure others who live in London will vouch for me when I say parking in London specially for a big car like the Model X is not very easy! Parking spaces are usually not always available and when they are they can be very tight. Even if you have a nice and big space you still want to make sure you ve parked inside the lines because most councils are notorious in giving parking fines when you ever so slightly park over the lines... So here is my question... Why would a Tesla Model X a big expensive and very technologically advanced car with LOTS of cameras and sensors and radars and what not only give you access the most basic rear view parking camera? I mean I had that on my Audi A1... If you look around you ll see other car manufacturers really pushing ahead with the parking aid: The new Phantom probably has the most ridiculous advanced one I have seen: [https: youtu.be TBIkJSpqcFs?t=169](https: youtu.be TBIkJSpqcFs?t=169) You could say Sure that s a £500k Phantom but then BMW have also done it on their M760i series and I m sure we ll see it on most of their other models soon too: [https: youtu.be fg5S3cFwzKI?t=330](https: youtu.be fg5S3cFwzKI?t=330) Even my Range Rover could do a 360 view and let you see front back and sides... tl dr If you re giving me a big and fairly expensive super modern car why would you only give me the most basic parking aid systems when the car clearly has the capability to show me more! | Ro-ftw | 2018-08-11 10:05:32 | 61 | e404hrj | Two reasons why Tesla s 360 camera would never be as good as competitors. 1. There is no front bumper camera. This camera is used when you are driving forward into a space to show what s directly in front of the curb when you can t see because of the hood. 2. Tesla s Autopilot camera s are not color but are greyscale and red. They are designed for the purposes of AP not parking. As someone with 360 degree Birdseye on my Nissan yeah I sucks Tesla didn t do it but I m easily willing to trade it away for the best AP and of course the only AP that actually get better. | Mantaup | 2018-08-11 11:35:39 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
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