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97fne5 | [Discussion] Loaded Model 3 or Loaded S75D?? | Okay so I am currently looking at making the plunge and purchasing a Tesla for myself. But I have reached an interesting price point comparison. If this has been asked before I m sorry. The (nearly) fully loaded Model 3 performance dual motor enhanced autopilot and full self driving comes to $77 000 total according to the Tesla site. (so not paying for premium interior) A Model S75D with enhanced autopilot and full self driving plus all the premium interior features (audio seats subzero) comes to $88 300. In your opinion if you own one or both or neither I m looking for a broad scope here is the $11k extra worth the S over the 3? I do not have any children but often drive adult friends. My daily driving is short enough that range is not a concern. I am not reasonably close enough to a supercharger to make it a frequent charging option so free supercharging is not a huge incentive (though it would be nice on roadtrips). I am financially secure with either choice but I am wondering if the cost difference is worth the difference in car. Lastly I wasn t sure if this question was more appropriate here or lounge so I tried both. If that is not the right thing then just let me know and I ll take the appropriate one down. Thanks for your time! | Kaiju62 | 2018-08-15 05:12:37 | 12 | e47uwx5 | But premium interior is included in every trim for now. This is why you are not able to buy model 3 for $35k. But will be able soon. | Demon4ik | 2018-08-15 05:18:44 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
97fne5 | [Discussion] Loaded Model 3 or Loaded S75D?? | Okay so I am currently looking at making the plunge and purchasing a Tesla for myself. But I have reached an interesting price point comparison. If this has been asked before I m sorry. The (nearly) fully loaded Model 3 performance dual motor enhanced autopilot and full self driving comes to $77 000 total according to the Tesla site. (so not paying for premium interior) A Model S75D with enhanced autopilot and full self driving plus all the premium interior features (audio seats subzero) comes to $88 300. In your opinion if you own one or both or neither I m looking for a broad scope here is the $11k extra worth the S over the 3? I do not have any children but often drive adult friends. My daily driving is short enough that range is not a concern. I am not reasonably close enough to a supercharger to make it a frequent charging option so free supercharging is not a huge incentive (though it would be nice on roadtrips). I am financially secure with either choice but I am wondering if the cost difference is worth the difference in car. Lastly I wasn t sure if this question was more appropriate here or lounge so I tried both. If that is not the right thing then just let me know and I ll take the appropriate one down. Thanks for your time! | Kaiju62 | 2018-08-15 05:12:37 | 12 | e47vm8r | Do you need the things the Model S offers that the Model 3 hasn t ? * hatchback and double the loading capacity * center binnacle * adjustable suspension * heated steering wheel * sunroof * powered liftgate The three has better legroom and headspace for backseat passengers and is a later design with many improvements. This is a good thread: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7x6xo3 discussion_how_does_the_model_3_compare_to_the ?st=jkup1ugu& sh=8ce2a351 Personally I am getting a 3 AWD to replace my 75D. I love the car but I want a car that is a bit smaller and more nimble to drive. I probably won t get the full self driving until they have demonstrated it really is worth it. | bjelkeman | 2018-08-15 05:36:35 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
97fne5 | [Discussion] Loaded Model 3 or Loaded S75D?? | Okay so I am currently looking at making the plunge and purchasing a Tesla for myself. But I have reached an interesting price point comparison. If this has been asked before I m sorry. The (nearly) fully loaded Model 3 performance dual motor enhanced autopilot and full self driving comes to $77 000 total according to the Tesla site. (so not paying for premium interior) A Model S75D with enhanced autopilot and full self driving plus all the premium interior features (audio seats subzero) comes to $88 300. In your opinion if you own one or both or neither I m looking for a broad scope here is the $11k extra worth the S over the 3? I do not have any children but often drive adult friends. My daily driving is short enough that range is not a concern. I am not reasonably close enough to a supercharger to make it a frequent charging option so free supercharging is not a huge incentive (though it would be nice on roadtrips). I am financially secure with either choice but I am wondering if the cost difference is worth the difference in car. Lastly I wasn t sure if this question was more appropriate here or lounge so I tried both. If that is not the right thing then just let me know and I ll take the appropriate one down. Thanks for your time! | Kaiju62 | 2018-08-15 05:12:37 | 12 | e4808zb | As others said personal preference. I have a 75D and have been in a few 3s. I d never consider a 3 over an S. S is just more spacious and luxurious imo. | Blind_at_Sea | 2018-08-15 07:58:56 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8atq8y | [Discussion] Long term affects of child seats on synthetic leather seats. | Hey model S and X owners I m currently awaiting a model 3 and am probably installing a convertible car seat in the coming months. I m wondering how your seats have held up after taking the car seat off? Any crazy dents that won t go back? Scratches? Tips? | flexbomb0 | 2018-04-08 22:45:48 | 16 | dx1gj62 | White seats for 18 months with 3 year olds eating and drinking and climbing in with muddy shoes without any seat protection. Still looks like new. But the carpet around the pedestals are trashed. I m waiting for white seats for my 3. | hkibad | 2018-04-08 23:04:51 | 10 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
8atq8y | [Discussion] Long term affects of child seats on synthetic leather seats. | Hey model S and X owners I m currently awaiting a model 3 and am probably installing a convertible car seat in the coming months. I m wondering how your seats have held up after taking the car seat off? Any crazy dents that won t go back? Scratches? Tips? | flexbomb0 | 2018-04-08 22:45:48 | 16 | dx1fnpw | Not super long term yet but they seem to bounce back better than leather after months of the car seats being in place. Nothing permanent that I ve seen. White interior here. | JeffMoore81 | 2018-04-08 22:49:38 | 5 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
8atq8y | [Discussion] Long term affects of child seats on synthetic leather seats. | Hey model S and X owners I m currently awaiting a model 3 and am probably installing a convertible car seat in the coming months. I m wondering how your seats have held up after taking the car seat off? Any crazy dents that won t go back? Scratches? Tips? | flexbomb0 | 2018-04-08 22:45:48 | 16 | dx1gssi | Over two years of experience in an S with a car seat (black leather interior). I use a car seat protector under the car seat. No permanent damage has been done when I remove the car seat. There are a couple dents when first removed but they look normal in about 2 days without the car seat in. | Sparktz | 2018-04-08 23:09:16 | 5 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
7ltydp | [Discussion] Looking to see how much people pay per kwh to charge in their homes? | Looking to gauge about how much people pay per kilowatt hour to charge in their homes? Would be awesome to hear what state you re from too cause I know California is just way higher. Got a Model 3 coming soon and can t wait... | jshchnz | 2017-12-24 07:25:27 | 27 | drp7yux | $0.00 because I have solar that covers over 110% of my needs. | Nfuzzy | 2017-12-24 14:17:47 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7ltydp | [Discussion] Looking to see how much people pay per kwh to charge in their homes? | Looking to gauge about how much people pay per kilowatt hour to charge in their homes? Would be awesome to hear what state you re from too cause I know California is just way higher. Got a Model 3 coming soon and can t wait... | jshchnz | 2017-12-24 07:25:27 | 27 | drp1uey | $0.06 kWh via SolarCity $0.08 kWh via Grid (Texas) | iceraven101 | 2017-12-24 09:38:38 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7ltydp | [Discussion] Looking to see how much people pay per kwh to charge in their homes? | Looking to gauge about how much people pay per kilowatt hour to charge in their homes? Would be awesome to hear what state you re from too cause I know California is just way higher. Got a Model 3 coming soon and can t wait... | jshchnz | 2017-12-24 07:25:27 | 27 | drp5agb | 0.31$ .... f... europe | DukeDarkside | 2017-12-24 12:36:21 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8unk0c | [Discussion] Lots of discussion about LR vs SR - what about non-premium interior? | Lots of discussion and speculation going on about the LR vs SR and getting orders and such but what about the non-premium interior? That s the thing holding me back the glass roof is a major negative to me and the other options for the premium interior are not really worth paying for otherwise. That s what I m waiting on I want a non-premium interior LR RWD Model 3. Is anyone else looking for this? | nofood4u | 2018-06-28 21:26:41 | 28 | e1gorqv | $5 says they haven t even thought about it yet | NoVA_traveler | 2018-06-28 21:27:39 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8unk0c | [Discussion] Lots of discussion about LR vs SR - what about non-premium interior? | Lots of discussion and speculation going on about the LR vs SR and getting orders and such but what about the non-premium interior? That s the thing holding me back the glass roof is a major negative to me and the other options for the premium interior are not really worth paying for otherwise. That s what I m waiting on I want a non-premium interior LR RWD Model 3. Is anyone else looking for this? | nofood4u | 2018-06-28 21:26:41 | 28 | e1gsf6z | Curious why the glass roof is a major negative for you. Have you sat in one? I love having it and every passenger has been wowed by it thus far. | frumpy_cat | 2018-06-28 22:24:25 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8unk0c | [Discussion] Lots of discussion about LR vs SR - what about non-premium interior? | Lots of discussion and speculation going on about the LR vs SR and getting orders and such but what about the non-premium interior? That s the thing holding me back the glass roof is a major negative to me and the other options for the premium interior are not really worth paying for otherwise. That s what I m waiting on I want a non-premium interior LR RWD Model 3. Is anyone else looking for this? | nofood4u | 2018-06-28 21:26:41 | 28 | e1gsty0 | I was originally contemplating it but decided that it would probably mean the difference between $7500 credit and $3750 so in total the PUP would only be $1250 more. Worth it for that | thepolan | 2018-06-28 22:31:07 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8unk0c | [Discussion] Lots of discussion about LR vs SR - what about non-premium interior? | Lots of discussion and speculation going on about the LR vs SR and getting orders and such but what about the non-premium interior? That s the thing holding me back the glass roof is a major negative to me and the other options for the premium interior are not really worth paying for otherwise. That s what I m waiting on I want a non-premium interior LR RWD Model 3. Is anyone else looking for this? | nofood4u | 2018-06-28 21:26:41 | 28 | e1gsgwl | Serious question what is there to dislike about the glass roof? | Blind_at_Sea | 2018-06-28 22:25:12 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dbks9s | [Discussion] Make sure you can see your Tesla when using smart summon | Was showing smart summon to a friend the other day at a [publix parking lot](https: i.imgur.com dX7VPKZ.jpg). I activated summon and it tried to back up but stopped after seeing a car followed by it beginning to move forward into an empty space ahead of it presumably to go into another lane blocking my field of view of the car. I immediately stopped it and noticed that it was trying to drive the wrong way in a one-way road. Just wanted to raise awareness for the fact it can t distinguish using arrows in the road like we are able to and to make sure you have clear visibility of the car when using this feature. | theolaw | 2019-10-01 00:06:18 | 96 | f22x2r3 | Smart summon s progress over time is a true indicator of how far we are from FSD. | mjezzi | 2019-10-01 03:06:21 | 28 | Smart Summon Limitations |
dbks9s | [Discussion] Make sure you can see your Tesla when using smart summon | Was showing smart summon to a friend the other day at a [publix parking lot](https: i.imgur.com dX7VPKZ.jpg). I activated summon and it tried to back up but stopped after seeing a car followed by it beginning to move forward into an empty space ahead of it presumably to go into another lane blocking my field of view of the car. I immediately stopped it and noticed that it was trying to drive the wrong way in a one-way road. Just wanted to raise awareness for the fact it can t distinguish using arrows in the road like we are able to and to make sure you have clear visibility of the car when using this feature. | theolaw | 2019-10-01 00:06:18 | 96 | f22x2uz | If you want to try Smart Summon do what I did! Go to a quiet little parking lot or the quiet corner of a big one and play with it to your heart s content. It s not for use in the Whole Foods parking lot at 5:00 on a weeknight. | Mi75d | 2019-10-01 03:06:23 | 17 | Smart Summon Limitations |
dbks9s | [Discussion] Make sure you can see your Tesla when using smart summon | Was showing smart summon to a friend the other day at a [publix parking lot](https: i.imgur.com dX7VPKZ.jpg). I activated summon and it tried to back up but stopped after seeing a car followed by it beginning to move forward into an empty space ahead of it presumably to go into another lane blocking my field of view of the car. I immediately stopped it and noticed that it was trying to drive the wrong way in a one-way road. Just wanted to raise awareness for the fact it can t distinguish using arrows in the road like we are able to and to make sure you have clear visibility of the car when using this feature. | theolaw | 2019-10-01 00:06:18 | 96 | f22kve3 | Oh? You mean like the instructions say? What a coincidence! People should really do like maybe 10 minutes of research before using features they are unfamiliar with. Especially when they could end up hurting other people. 1. Private parking lots only 2. Keep line of sight 3. SS does not respect one ways 4. SS does not drive on the right side of the road 5. SS does not always automatically stop for stop signs and pedestrians. | tp1996 | 2019-10-01 00:52:51 | 14 | Smart Summon Limitations |
dbks9s | [Discussion] Make sure you can see your Tesla when using smart summon | Was showing smart summon to a friend the other day at a [publix parking lot](https: i.imgur.com dX7VPKZ.jpg). I activated summon and it tried to back up but stopped after seeing a car followed by it beginning to move forward into an empty space ahead of it presumably to go into another lane blocking my field of view of the car. I immediately stopped it and noticed that it was trying to drive the wrong way in a one-way road. Just wanted to raise awareness for the fact it can t distinguish using arrows in the road like we are able to and to make sure you have clear visibility of the car when using this feature. | theolaw | 2019-10-01 00:06:18 | 96 | f22n8cz | I have no doubt that smart Summon will be disabled soon. People are being people doing moronic things people do. Not nearly everyone is as responsible as OP. | realvvk | 2019-10-01 01:13:16 | 13 | Smart Summon Limitations |
dbks9s | [Discussion] Make sure you can see your Tesla when using smart summon | Was showing smart summon to a friend the other day at a [publix parking lot](https: i.imgur.com dX7VPKZ.jpg). I activated summon and it tried to back up but stopped after seeing a car followed by it beginning to move forward into an empty space ahead of it presumably to go into another lane blocking my field of view of the car. I immediately stopped it and noticed that it was trying to drive the wrong way in a one-way road. Just wanted to raise awareness for the fact it can t distinguish using arrows in the road like we are able to and to make sure you have clear visibility of the car when using this feature. | theolaw | 2019-10-01 00:06:18 | 96 | f23frio | Smart Summon is like the proverbial dancing bear. It s impressive that it can dance but it really doesn t dance very well. | SpellingJenius | 2019-10-01 09:31:33 | 12 | Smart Summon Limitations |
dbks9s | [Discussion] Make sure you can see your Tesla when using smart summon | Was showing smart summon to a friend the other day at a [publix parking lot](https: i.imgur.com dX7VPKZ.jpg). I activated summon and it tried to back up but stopped after seeing a car followed by it beginning to move forward into an empty space ahead of it presumably to go into another lane blocking my field of view of the car. I immediately stopped it and noticed that it was trying to drive the wrong way in a one-way road. Just wanted to raise awareness for the fact it can t distinguish using arrows in the road like we are able to and to make sure you have clear visibility of the car when using this feature. | theolaw | 2019-10-01 00:06:18 | 96 | f22mknq | Damn why y all roasting this man | JTBbrick | 2019-10-01 01:07:41 | 6 | Smart Summon Limitations |
dbks9s | [Discussion] Make sure you can see your Tesla when using smart summon | Was showing smart summon to a friend the other day at a [publix parking lot](https: i.imgur.com dX7VPKZ.jpg). I activated summon and it tried to back up but stopped after seeing a car followed by it beginning to move forward into an empty space ahead of it presumably to go into another lane blocking my field of view of the car. I immediately stopped it and noticed that it was trying to drive the wrong way in a one-way road. Just wanted to raise awareness for the fact it can t distinguish using arrows in the road like we are able to and to make sure you have clear visibility of the car when using this feature. | theolaw | 2019-10-01 00:06:18 | 96 | f23amtr | Smart Summon is just too damn dumb to be useful. The car can be in your line of sight and then make a turn where it goes out of sight and then what? You run after it? If the car can only be used when it s in your clear line of sight and no obstacles around it then all the utility goes out the window as you ll walk to your car 5 times faster then the time it takes for it to get to you. | maybeandroid | 2019-10-01 07:08:07 | 6 | Smart Summon Limitations |
dbks9s | [Discussion] Make sure you can see your Tesla when using smart summon | Was showing smart summon to a friend the other day at a [publix parking lot](https: i.imgur.com dX7VPKZ.jpg). I activated summon and it tried to back up but stopped after seeing a car followed by it beginning to move forward into an empty space ahead of it presumably to go into another lane blocking my field of view of the car. I immediately stopped it and noticed that it was trying to drive the wrong way in a one-way road. Just wanted to raise awareness for the fact it can t distinguish using arrows in the road like we are able to and to make sure you have clear visibility of the car when using this feature. | theolaw | 2019-10-01 00:06:18 | 96 | f23cr4o | The comments in this thread blaming OP 100% are nuts. I swear Tesla could put a Flamethrower button in the backseat that any 3 year old could push and the response would be um well they clearly say to supervise it and it s totally your fault your kid roasted your dog and not the fault of the company putting in a feature that s incredibly easy for anyone to misuse. | rich-creamery-butter | 2019-10-01 08:04:45 | 6 | Smart Summon Limitations |
8lb9bm | [Discussion] Massive hands on steering wheel detection improvement on 18.3 - no more nags! | In previous firmware versions despite having both hands on the steering wheel 100% of my drive I would experience the Autopilot nag about every 1 minute or so if I don t exert a distinctive tug periodically. Today on the entire drive it did not nag me once! Super happy with this improvement. In the Utah Firetruck Reddit post Tesla claimed that the driver was frequently inattentive and not holding the steering wheel. Many of us feel that this may be due to false negative results due to poor detection. I am so glad that the hand detection issue is being remedied. https: redd.it 8jz5tl | inspron2 | 2018-05-22 16:20:51 | 71 | dze6v0l | I wish they would consider interacting with the steering wheel controls to be a touch. If I m changing the temperature or adjusting audio from the steering wheel or adjusting autopilot I ve either got my hands on the wheel or very very close to it. Either way I m being attentive. | majesticjg | 2018-05-22 16:28:25 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8lb9bm | [Discussion] Massive hands on steering wheel detection improvement on 18.3 - no more nags! | In previous firmware versions despite having both hands on the steering wheel 100% of my drive I would experience the Autopilot nag about every 1 minute or so if I don t exert a distinctive tug periodically. Today on the entire drive it did not nag me once! Super happy with this improvement. In the Utah Firetruck Reddit post Tesla claimed that the driver was frequently inattentive and not holding the steering wheel. Many of us feel that this may be due to false negative results due to poor detection. I am so glad that the hand detection issue is being remedied. https: redd.it 8jz5tl | inspron2 | 2018-05-22 16:20:51 | 71 | dze7evs | > In the Utah Firetruck Reddit post Tesla claimed that the driver was frequently inattentive and not holding the steering wheel. Many of us feel that this may be due to false negative results for poor detection. I am so glad that the hands detection issue is being remedied. I strongly feel that Tesla can see much smaller torque inputs than what the car accepts so when they make the statement that the hands were not on the wheel it s not just using the arbitrary cutoff the firmware uses to nag us but actually evaluating true torque input. | Dr_Pippin | 2018-05-22 16:36:39 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8lb9bm | [Discussion] Massive hands on steering wheel detection improvement on 18.3 - no more nags! | In previous firmware versions despite having both hands on the steering wheel 100% of my drive I would experience the Autopilot nag about every 1 minute or so if I don t exert a distinctive tug periodically. Today on the entire drive it did not nag me once! Super happy with this improvement. In the Utah Firetruck Reddit post Tesla claimed that the driver was frequently inattentive and not holding the steering wheel. Many of us feel that this may be due to false negative results due to poor detection. I am so glad that the hand detection issue is being remedied. https: redd.it 8jz5tl | inspron2 | 2018-05-22 16:20:51 | 71 | dzeal8f | She admitted she wasn t paying attention though so keep that in mind. She was looking at her phone by her own admittance | TronLightyear | 2018-05-22 17:23:16 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8lb9bm | [Discussion] Massive hands on steering wheel detection improvement on 18.3 - no more nags! | In previous firmware versions despite having both hands on the steering wheel 100% of my drive I would experience the Autopilot nag about every 1 minute or so if I don t exert a distinctive tug periodically. Today on the entire drive it did not nag me once! Super happy with this improvement. In the Utah Firetruck Reddit post Tesla claimed that the driver was frequently inattentive and not holding the steering wheel. Many of us feel that this may be due to false negative results due to poor detection. I am so glad that the hand detection issue is being remedied. https: redd.it 8jz5tl | inspron2 | 2018-05-22 16:20:51 | 71 | dzf4ftn | I am on 18.3. Just completed a ~700 mike road trip 95% of the time on auto pilot with hand on the wheel 98% of the time. I was nagged the entire trip and would have to jerk the wheel around every minute or so to prove it. Sometimes a gentle jerk of the wheel wasn t even enough. I mostly used my left hand resting on the door and my leg. | mikes312 | 2018-05-23 01:17:50 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
88myj5 | [Discussion] Max price of future Model 3 s | Let s speculate on the approximate maximum price of a fully loaded Model3. This includes the current premium model with all options plus new and future options such as: * 20 sport wheels (already available for $4k) * White vegan leather seats * White Black headliner (will probably be part of alternate color seating packages) * AWD aka dual-motors * P version w ludicrous mode? Any other foreseeable options? Note: We should only consider official Tesla options no third-party $8k Xpel full wraps brake upgrades etc. | ice__nine | 2018-04-01 00:24:40 | 12 | dwls3aq | I ll start the bid. 80k dollars! | ElonsMonkey | 2018-04-01 00:27:15 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
88myj5 | [Discussion] Max price of future Model 3 s | Let s speculate on the approximate maximum price of a fully loaded Model3. This includes the current premium model with all options plus new and future options such as: * 20 sport wheels (already available for $4k) * White vegan leather seats * White Black headliner (will probably be part of alternate color seating packages) * AWD aka dual-motors * P version w ludicrous mode? Any other foreseeable options? Note: We should only consider official Tesla options no third-party $8k Xpel full wraps brake upgrades etc. | ice__nine | 2018-04-01 00:24:40 | 12 | dwlsivl | My guess is $5K for AWD. I wonder thouse who are waiting for AWD would they go for AWD if they have to get LR+PUP+AWD in order to get AWD for now. | dudeman0918 | 2018-04-01 00:35:35 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
88myj5 | [Discussion] Max price of future Model 3 s | Let s speculate on the approximate maximum price of a fully loaded Model3. This includes the current premium model with all options plus new and future options such as: * 20 sport wheels (already available for $4k) * White vegan leather seats * White Black headliner (will probably be part of alternate color seating packages) * AWD aka dual-motors * P version w ludicrous mode? Any other foreseeable options? Note: We should only consider official Tesla options no third-party $8k Xpel full wraps brake upgrades etc. | ice__nine | 2018-04-01 00:24:40 | 12 | dwluvlo | $100k CAD. Ouch. | Rev-777 | 2018-04-01 01:22:44 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9gnmqm | [Discussion] Mazda Soul Crystal Red vs Tesla Red | What are your thoughts on Mazda s red vs. Teslas red? I know Tesla is know for the red and it s prominent everywhere in their products. I personally think it s the best looking red out there but recently Mazda s Soul Crystal Red has been catching my attention. It s so rich and deep. Like moths to a street light I can t help but turn my attention to one when I m in the road. What are your thoughts on the two reds and which one do you like better? | EddiOS42 | 2018-09-17 19:48:14 | 18 | e65glmn | Absolutely. Mazda nailed it. It s my favorite red by far followed by Tesla s MC red. My wife and friend were in the car when we came upon a CX-5 and we all couldn t take our eyes off it. A very rich hue with tons of depth. Kudos Mazda! | blueflash17 | 2018-09-17 19:57:31 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9gnmqm | [Discussion] Mazda Soul Crystal Red vs Tesla Red | What are your thoughts on Mazda s red vs. Teslas red? I know Tesla is know for the red and it s prominent everywhere in their products. I personally think it s the best looking red out there but recently Mazda s Soul Crystal Red has been catching my attention. It s so rich and deep. Like moths to a street light I can t help but turn my attention to one when I m in the road. What are your thoughts on the two reds and which one do you like better? | EddiOS42 | 2018-09-17 19:48:14 | 18 | e65gstz | I own a red 3 and love it but I would have paid extra for Mazda s red instead. Holy wow it s great especially in the sun. Stands out across the highway going the other direction... | etm33 | 2018-09-17 20:00:09 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9gnmqm | [Discussion] Mazda Soul Crystal Red vs Tesla Red | What are your thoughts on Mazda s red vs. Teslas red? I know Tesla is know for the red and it s prominent everywhere in their products. I personally think it s the best looking red out there but recently Mazda s Soul Crystal Red has been catching my attention. It s so rich and deep. Like moths to a street light I can t help but turn my attention to one when I m in the road. What are your thoughts on the two reds and which one do you like better? | EddiOS42 | 2018-09-17 19:48:14 | 18 | e65gmdz | Yes! There s one that parks here at work. I can t stop staring at it when I walk by. It s gorgeous. | _ohm_my | 2018-09-17 19:57:48 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9gnmqm | [Discussion] Mazda Soul Crystal Red vs Tesla Red | What are your thoughts on Mazda s red vs. Teslas red? I know Tesla is know for the red and it s prominent everywhere in their products. I personally think it s the best looking red out there but recently Mazda s Soul Crystal Red has been catching my attention. It s so rich and deep. Like moths to a street light I can t help but turn my attention to one when I m in the road. What are your thoughts on the two reds and which one do you like better? | EddiOS42 | 2018-09-17 19:48:14 | 18 | e65h87m | Mazda s Soul Red is amazing I had it on my MX-5. But it s super thin and rock chips will go straight through it. I had a bunch of white-ish dots and scrapes on the hood of my car. | assblast420 | 2018-09-17 20:05:55 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9gnmqm | [Discussion] Mazda Soul Crystal Red vs Tesla Red | What are your thoughts on Mazda s red vs. Teslas red? I know Tesla is know for the red and it s prominent everywhere in their products. I personally think it s the best looking red out there but recently Mazda s Soul Crystal Red has been catching my attention. It s so rich and deep. Like moths to a street light I can t help but turn my attention to one when I m in the road. What are your thoughts on the two reds and which one do you like better? | EddiOS42 | 2018-09-17 19:48:14 | 18 | e65nok3 | Mazda s red looks phenomenal. It still catches my eye even if it s a CX-5 parked right next to my 3. Beautiful combo of color and design. | dubsteponmycat | 2018-09-17 21:32:57 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9gnmqm | [Discussion] Mazda Soul Crystal Red vs Tesla Red | What are your thoughts on Mazda s red vs. Teslas red? I know Tesla is know for the red and it s prominent everywhere in their products. I personally think it s the best looking red out there but recently Mazda s Soul Crystal Red has been catching my attention. It s so rich and deep. Like moths to a street light I can t help but turn my attention to one when I m in the road. What are your thoughts on the two reds and which one do you like better? | EddiOS42 | 2018-09-17 19:48:14 | 18 | e65qued | Side note: the red 3 from the first reveal event looked a *lot* more similar to Mazda s red. | dubsteponmycat | 2018-09-17 22:19:28 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5ekask | They re comparing NEDC with EPA range on the same fucking table. Unbelievable. | racergr | 2018-09-04 23:15:30 | 47 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5eotj5 | Good. It s about time. Should ve happened 10 years ago. Though those stats seems kind of weak for 2020... | Lancaster61 | 2018-09-05 00:32:39 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5eja2r | EV to be available in 2020 at an unknown price that doesn t compete with Tesla specs from 2015. Model Y specs and pricing will be announced long before anyone can buy this car.. Sounds DOA to me. Or as the media would call it - A Tesla Killer. | EOMIS | 2018-09-04 22:58:27 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5ejxgb | 280 miles on NEDC is a bad comparison. The Model X 100D is *351* miles on NEDC. | gyverlb | 2018-09-04 23:09:16 | 29 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5esx57 | Design and technology-wise this is bad. * Shoe-shaped unelegant exterior. Fake air vents. Blue accents to show this is electric. * How thick is this battery pack? First they have tried some design magic by painting the bottom side of the car black. Second side photos reveal a massive low hanging belly. Same thing is apparent in iPace. * What would you guess is under this humongous hood? A frunk? Nope. [https: youtu.be G7pHOLSq2cQ?t=1296](https: youtu.be G7pHOLSq2cQ?t=1296) It s filled to the brim with something hidden under a fake ICE cover. * Middle of the back seat floor has a transmission tunnel because the future is not so electric yet. * UI looks promising because finally screens! Standard in every car not an expensive add-on. But navi still looks like a 90-s computer game and there is a prominent menu item Mercedes me & Apps to let you know that this is all barely useable incoherent garbage. I had my money on Mercedes being the german brand best situated to survive the oncoming technology shift but this is sooo underwhelming. | mieczyslaw | 2018-09-05 01:41:04 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5ej8qk | Before the live stream started they showed 22.2kWh 100km at the bottom of the screen. That translates to 2.79 miles per kWh or 358Wh mile. If I did my math correctly to get 280 miles out of the EQC they d need a 100kWh pack. Which I highly doubt since they made mention of 80kWh in the past. | tracksyde | 2018-09-04 22:57:50 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5ejxgj | I think their comparison table is bs. 280 mi is likely NEDC vs EPA for Tesla. 240mph top speed for i-Pace doesn t sound remotely realistic. Edit: range on the Mercedes is actually 200 mi https: arstechnica.com cars 2018 09 the-new-mercedes-benz-eqc-electric-suv-goes-on-sale-in-2020 | cloudone | 2018-09-04 23:09:17 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5ellsv | > What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 Both are probably better cars than any ICE Merc in the same price range. Competition will keep Tesla focused on improving their cars both models should sell in good numbers. > The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. I ve noticed legacy EV makers can announce big numbers by including the battery cell purchase which is a large chunk of the price of each EV. There is no massive up front investment they buy cells as needed sometimes investing in battery factories owned by others. In contrast Tesla has built GF1 which was more of a risky all in bet but has a bigger payoff. I haven t noticed any announcement of a Merc battery factory. EDIT: There is this:- > To underscore the shift Mercedes will spend 1 billion euros on battery production to create a network of eight facilities globally. We still don t have any announced locations time-frames and from the budgets you can see that the combined total of these facilities is smaller than GF1. But they might be simply assembling cells into packs or something like that. In fairness I don t think Merc is targeting 500K EVs per year. Like I always say:- We will see margin competition when EVs are 95% of the new car market. | M3FanOZ | 2018-09-04 23:37:42 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5erwrv | EQC is not a Model X competitor like Jaguar I-PACE is not a Model X competitor. Better to think of both as a raised Model 3 in my opinion. & #x200B Mercedes GLC has same wheelbase almost the same width and a few inches higher compared to Model 3. & #x200B [GLC vs Model 3](https: imgur.com a CvMYqKu) | Insightful_Digg | 2018-09-05 01:24:21 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5eotuw | This is a class down from the X. (At least). The X is a full size SUV I believe it s larger than a GLE and a little smaller than a GLS. This car is based off a GLC. I don t get why people compare ICE cars in class sizes but for some reason they think it doesn t apply to EVs. Comparing a Jag iPace to a Model X is ludicrous as an example. The iPace is a Model 3 competitor. | Burntbigtoe | 2018-09-05 00:32:47 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5eu32y | Disappointed with the EQC. Mercedes based it on the GLC and didn t remove the center tunnel didn t increase trunk space and put an engine cover when they could have put in a frunk. Completely wasted space that could have been used for better interior comfort and storage. | carguyyyc | 2018-09-05 02:00:40 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5ekg4v | They just need to commit on their cause they are not taking up EV manufacturing seriously they are just toying around EV s | houston_wehaveaprblm | 2018-09-04 23:18:03 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5ekxbx | I think it will depend where Tesla is on the software and hardware front by the time this vehicle ships and how third party charging networks are maturing. And of course sales. This vehicle will need to move 50 000 units in its first year to be a credible competitor. If you want a five seat electric cuv there are already options out or coming soon. | majesticjg | 2018-09-04 23:26:06 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5erobs | Well some of the billions Mercedes spent on their EV program included the $250 they paid me to do an in-home interview with me about my Teslas. I took the $250 and bought a bunch of Tesla merchandise with it. So it doesn t surprise me that this announcement has finally hit prime time. | stevejust | 2018-09-05 01:20:31 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5eysg4 | The front is a mess of design elements like they couldn t decide what to do. Those cutaways of the battery and drivetrain though. Yeesh. I m no engineer but it seems to me that Tesla s packaging of battery motor inverter and cooling systems is much more compact and integrated. Mercedes could have used this opportunity to ditch the center tunnel and to create a front trunk but instead they re falling back to convention and placing stuff there that would otherwise be tucked away in a Tesla. I m all for competition but first impression is that this doesn t really feel that special. It s like they re banking on the fact that it s a compact SUV that will sell like hot cakes due to its form factor alone. At least Jaguar took a chance with their exterior design. Oh well. Looking forward to learning more about the E Tron in 2 weeks. | blueflash17 | 2018-09-05 03:22:18 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5ezev1 | if other manufacturers are designing their electric cars in the same way that Tesla is then they should not be releasing vehicles that are designed to “kill” other electric cars — they should be creating vehicles that are designed to “kill” gas and diesel-powered automobiles. Teslarati | 2ontrack | 2018-09-05 03:33:46 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5ewgb1 | The OEMs are going to be in a world of hurt if this is their best effort. The design shows they are not truly all in on electric as it has a design that looks like it is shared with ICE. If this doesn t have sensors for full autonomy they are truly screwed. Not to mention it s not even going to get here until 2020... | psisoldier | 2018-09-05 02:41:11 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9d0kv7 | [Discussion] Mercedes to attempt to rival Tesla with a new 280 mile range SUV crossover model EQC to compete with the Model X and plans a $12 billion capital investment | What do you guys think of the Mercedes EQC in comparison to the Model X? The Model X 100D is listed at 295 miles from $96 000 and this seems to be close at 280 miles (edit: seems to be comparing EPA range vs NEDC range and the EPA range of the EQC is likely more like 200-220 miles this would put it closer to the $80 000 Model X 75D). The $12 billion in capital is reported as more than Tesla has raised for electric cars though less than Tesla s total capital raise if you include the Solar City acquisition. ~~Mercedes capital commitment doesn t seem to be binding though.~~ (edit: they ve already spent an unspecified amount more? The company intended to invest 10 billion euros ($12 billion) in its electric-vehicle push but has ended up spending “more than that ” he said Tuesday without specifying figures. ) Bloomberg and others have written about the announcements today with more details: https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-09-04 mercedes-readies-first-tesla-rival-in-12-billion-attack-plan | muchcharles | 2018-09-04 22:52:43 | 52 | e5f5kam | It s ironic that one of the main reasons for TSLA neutral overbought analysis is that Tesla just spends too much... Here we go 12 billion in 1 announcement. And what about the missing demand for EVs ? If it s missing then it s 12 billion thrown away right ? | hdante | 2018-09-05 05:51:02 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a5awh8 | [Discussion] Mirrors need manual dimming option | & #x200B [Manual Dimming Required](https: i.redd.it 2gqmn5n0pp321.jpg) My last car had sensors in the mirror which would detect a bright light and auto dim. This was fantastic! The model 3 just auto dims the mirrors when it gets dark whether or not there s a car behind. This causes it to be very dark and I can t see if a pedestrian is walking up next to the car when stopped or if there s a bicycle in my blind spot. Then during the day sometimes I have the sun right behind me (see photo) or there s a truck and I need to dim the mirror. It doesn t seem like the model 3 has sensors that detect light behind you maybe they can use the interior camera to fix this? This is a safety hazard for me but I don t see anyone else discussing this. Am I alone? & #x200B (Sorry about the photo while driving it s been driving me nuts and I want to bring attention to it) | watchingfromaffar | 2018-12-11 20:56:28 | 53 | ebl7hlj | I had also noticed the dimming to be suboptimal but I couldn t put my finger on it until you suggested your hypothesis. My problem living in the land of tall pickups is that the mirror doesn t dim enough when a truck is behind me. Now that you mention the lack of light sensor in the rear view mirror it makes sense why it s not working so well. | TWANGnBANG | 2018-12-11 21:20:45 | 11 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
a5awh8 | [Discussion] Mirrors need manual dimming option | & #x200B [Manual Dimming Required](https: i.redd.it 2gqmn5n0pp321.jpg) My last car had sensors in the mirror which would detect a bright light and auto dim. This was fantastic! The model 3 just auto dims the mirrors when it gets dark whether or not there s a car behind. This causes it to be very dark and I can t see if a pedestrian is walking up next to the car when stopped or if there s a bicycle in my blind spot. Then during the day sometimes I have the sun right behind me (see photo) or there s a truck and I need to dim the mirror. It doesn t seem like the model 3 has sensors that detect light behind you maybe they can use the interior camera to fix this? This is a safety hazard for me but I don t see anyone else discussing this. Am I alone? & #x200B (Sorry about the photo while driving it s been driving me nuts and I want to bring attention to it) | watchingfromaffar | 2018-12-11 20:56:28 | 53 | eblflc2 | Similarly the mirrors need to un-dim when placed into reverse at night. | engineerbro22 | 2018-12-11 23:03:06 | 9 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
a5awh8 | [Discussion] Mirrors need manual dimming option | & #x200B [Manual Dimming Required](https: i.redd.it 2gqmn5n0pp321.jpg) My last car had sensors in the mirror which would detect a bright light and auto dim. This was fantastic! The model 3 just auto dims the mirrors when it gets dark whether or not there s a car behind. This causes it to be very dark and I can t see if a pedestrian is walking up next to the car when stopped or if there s a bicycle in my blind spot. Then during the day sometimes I have the sun right behind me (see photo) or there s a truck and I need to dim the mirror. It doesn t seem like the model 3 has sensors that detect light behind you maybe they can use the interior camera to fix this? This is a safety hazard for me but I don t see anyone else discussing this. Am I alone? & #x200B (Sorry about the photo while driving it s been driving me nuts and I want to bring attention to it) | watchingfromaffar | 2018-12-11 20:56:28 | 53 | ebl7x9j | Auto-dimming mirrors have never worked well enough for me in any car that had them. I don t know why we can t just have a button to turn them on off. | pobody | 2018-12-11 21:26:04 | 5 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
axdtpn | [Discussion] Model 3 Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade incoming? | I am not talking about Sentry Mode which is a completely separate thing. I saw the text in the screenshot below while browsing through the in-car Owner s Manual today and I don t think I ve seen it before. I checked the PDF version of the Owner s Manual (published Dec 20 2018) on tesla.com and there s no mention of this feature there. You can go check yourself on the in-car Owner s Manual and confirm if it s there for you. I definitely don t have a **Controls -> Safety & Security -> Tilt Intrusion** setting in my car (a P3D+ built in Dec 2018 running 2018.50.6). I knew the Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade was available for S and X but is this the first mention of that being released for Model 3? **Edit: Put a better screenshot in that contains the whole section on the Security System. Hopefully that makes it clear what the car already does and what it looks like the Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade does.** **Edit2: For clarification I know that for X and S this was a paid upgrade ($350) and I guess it will be a paid upgrade for Model 3 as well.** & #x200B [My in-car owner s manual describing the \\ Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade\\ .](https: i.redd.it 6zbeznrbr7k21.jpg) | telos0 | 2019-03-04 23:11:52 | 84 | ehsye6g | Good find! | superh0 | 2019-03-04 23:47:01 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
axdtpn | [Discussion] Model 3 Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade incoming? | I am not talking about Sentry Mode which is a completely separate thing. I saw the text in the screenshot below while browsing through the in-car Owner s Manual today and I don t think I ve seen it before. I checked the PDF version of the Owner s Manual (published Dec 20 2018) on tesla.com and there s no mention of this feature there. You can go check yourself on the in-car Owner s Manual and confirm if it s there for you. I definitely don t have a **Controls -> Safety & Security -> Tilt Intrusion** setting in my car (a P3D+ built in Dec 2018 running 2018.50.6). I knew the Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade was available for S and X but is this the first mention of that being released for Model 3? **Edit: Put a better screenshot in that contains the whole section on the Security System. Hopefully that makes it clear what the car already does and what it looks like the Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade does.** **Edit2: For clarification I know that for X and S this was a paid upgrade ($350) and I guess it will be a paid upgrade for Model 3 as well.** & #x200B [My in-car owner s manual describing the \\ Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade\\ .](https: i.redd.it 6zbeznrbr7k21.jpg) | telos0 | 2019-03-04 23:11:52 | 84 | ehswx8k | Isn t that the device they sell? It goes in your car and acts as an extra secure alarm system. Edit: https: electrek.co 2018 11 13 tesla-enhanced-anti-theft | dinozero | 2019-03-04 23:28:06 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
axdtpn | [Discussion] Model 3 Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade incoming? | I am not talking about Sentry Mode which is a completely separate thing. I saw the text in the screenshot below while browsing through the in-car Owner s Manual today and I don t think I ve seen it before. I checked the PDF version of the Owner s Manual (published Dec 20 2018) on tesla.com and there s no mention of this feature there. You can go check yourself on the in-car Owner s Manual and confirm if it s there for you. I definitely don t have a **Controls -> Safety & Security -> Tilt Intrusion** setting in my car (a P3D+ built in Dec 2018 running 2018.50.6). I knew the Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade was available for S and X but is this the first mention of that being released for Model 3? **Edit: Put a better screenshot in that contains the whole section on the Security System. Hopefully that makes it clear what the car already does and what it looks like the Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade does.** **Edit2: For clarification I know that for X and S this was a paid upgrade ($350) and I guess it will be a paid upgrade for Model 3 as well.** & #x200B [My in-car owner s manual describing the \\ Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade\\ .](https: i.redd.it 6zbeznrbr7k21.jpg) | telos0 | 2019-03-04 23:11:52 | 84 | eht3543 | Some have speculated that Model 3 won t need additional hardware for this option due to the interior camera (Model S and X don t have that camera and this option adds sensor hardware if selected at build). I m curious to learn what this is and whether or not it will integrate with Sentry Mode | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2019-03-05 00:49:28 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
axdtpn | [Discussion] Model 3 Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade incoming? | I am not talking about Sentry Mode which is a completely separate thing. I saw the text in the screenshot below while browsing through the in-car Owner s Manual today and I don t think I ve seen it before. I checked the PDF version of the Owner s Manual (published Dec 20 2018) on tesla.com and there s no mention of this feature there. You can go check yourself on the in-car Owner s Manual and confirm if it s there for you. I definitely don t have a **Controls -> Safety & Security -> Tilt Intrusion** setting in my car (a P3D+ built in Dec 2018 running 2018.50.6). I knew the Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade was available for S and X but is this the first mention of that being released for Model 3? **Edit: Put a better screenshot in that contains the whole section on the Security System. Hopefully that makes it clear what the car already does and what it looks like the Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade does.** **Edit2: For clarification I know that for X and S this was a paid upgrade ($350) and I guess it will be a paid upgrade for Model 3 as well.** & #x200B [My in-car owner s manual describing the \\ Enhanced Anti-Theft upgrade\\ .](https: i.redd.it 6zbeznrbr7k21.jpg) | telos0 | 2019-03-04 23:11:52 | 84 | eht99yq | Just a thought... Maybe they forgot to remove that paragraph in a copy paste from Model S. 🤷♂️ If Model S owners can look at their manual and compare it it could be that is the exact same phrasing but it only replaced the Model S to Model 3. | bambino646 | 2019-03-05 02:09:44 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6eko59 | [Discussion] Model 3 75kwh software locked to 60kwh | So there was recently a post in the Tesla Model 3 Facebook group about this topic and I think reddit is a better medium to have this discussion. Most recent leak has the Model 3 having two battery choices a 60kwh and a 75kwh. One of the points brought up against this is that it would increase the cost of the vehicle but not the price of the vehicle. However I had a thought that might reduce this as a con from Tesla s point of view. The model 3 is built for Mass volume production. Anything that reduces complexity of the vehicle increases the throughput of the production line. By making anything that they can software locked instead of a hardware change they have made the car simpler to produce. We already know this is gonna be a low margin car and when low margins are involved the only place profit is found is in volume fast food for instance. | Dauntless236 | 2017-06-01 05:15:02 | 26 | dib21ty | It makes more sense on a premium vehicle where the margins are higher and they can eat the cost where people don t upgrade. I don t think the economies of scale justify it in this case at least yet. I for one just hope the larger battery is available at launch. 215 miles of range is simply not enough for me to be comfortable with I d be cutting it really tight almost every weekend and range anxiety isn t something I want to deal with. | freefallgrue | 2017-06-01 06:05:44 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6eko59 | [Discussion] Model 3 75kwh software locked to 60kwh | So there was recently a post in the Tesla Model 3 Facebook group about this topic and I think reddit is a better medium to have this discussion. Most recent leak has the Model 3 having two battery choices a 60kwh and a 75kwh. One of the points brought up against this is that it would increase the cost of the vehicle but not the price of the vehicle. However I had a thought that might reduce this as a con from Tesla s point of view. The model 3 is built for Mass volume production. Anything that reduces complexity of the vehicle increases the throughput of the production line. By making anything that they can software locked instead of a hardware change they have made the car simpler to produce. We already know this is gonna be a low margin car and when low margins are involved the only place profit is found is in volume fast food for instance. | Dauntless236 | 2017-06-01 05:15:02 | 26 | dib16q3 | as a 60 owner I really get the sense that Tesla knows people realise how great a software locked car is. Almost all the benefits but with a huge cost decrease for the end user. Offer me this option and I ll get the 60 and never ever upgrade. | bward76 | 2017-06-01 05:34:55 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6eko59 | [Discussion] Model 3 75kwh software locked to 60kwh | So there was recently a post in the Tesla Model 3 Facebook group about this topic and I think reddit is a better medium to have this discussion. Most recent leak has the Model 3 having two battery choices a 60kwh and a 75kwh. One of the points brought up against this is that it would increase the cost of the vehicle but not the price of the vehicle. However I had a thought that might reduce this as a con from Tesla s point of view. The model 3 is built for Mass volume production. Anything that reduces complexity of the vehicle increases the throughput of the production line. By making anything that they can software locked instead of a hardware change they have made the car simpler to produce. We already know this is gonna be a low margin car and when low margins are involved the only place profit is found is in volume fast food for instance. | Dauntless236 | 2017-06-01 05:15:02 | 26 | dib3k3o | I feel like the lower cost 60kwh battery was a carrot offered to move some cars. Afaik it worked. I don t think Tesla will need that carrot in the first year or so. | _gosolar_ | 2017-06-01 07:04:26 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6eko59 | [Discussion] Model 3 75kwh software locked to 60kwh | So there was recently a post in the Tesla Model 3 Facebook group about this topic and I think reddit is a better medium to have this discussion. Most recent leak has the Model 3 having two battery choices a 60kwh and a 75kwh. One of the points brought up against this is that it would increase the cost of the vehicle but not the price of the vehicle. However I had a thought that might reduce this as a con from Tesla s point of view. The model 3 is built for Mass volume production. Anything that reduces complexity of the vehicle increases the throughput of the production line. By making anything that they can software locked instead of a hardware change they have made the car simpler to produce. We already know this is gonna be a low margin car and when low margins are involved the only place profit is found is in volume fast food for instance. | Dauntless236 | 2017-06-01 05:15:02 | 26 | dib4z6q | Some insight for the science illiterate. If your battery is only ever charged to 80% it takes much less time to charge and causes far less battery degradation so while you won t get 100% performance for the average consumer this is a good thing in that it means that your car is less prone to performance loss. From a manufacturing standpoint it means you only have to produce one form factor so while the material cost might be marginally larger the production cost is far less. Lesson in math if Tesla pricing model is based on 20% profit margin (quoting Elon) and direct sales it means that the amount of car you get buying a Tesla is dollar for dollar the best value out of any manufacturer unless they have a substantial inefficency somewhere. The reason being is that most products are built around a 33% cost 66% profit when you remove non manufacturing costs like marketing and R& D. Obviously more expensive things like cars do not end up with that much because marketing and R& D is a lot more expensive for a car then say a GI Joe however they still have to be produced at a low enough cost that dealers can add their price on top. So manufacture needs a cut and so does the dealer so that probably means for a $50 000 car on average you are getting about $25 000-$30 000 of car tops and the rest is overhead. With a Tesla a $50 000 car is closer to a $40 000 value. | dreiak559 | 2017-06-01 08:06:59 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8um78t | [Discussion] Model 3 AWD motor size | Any thoughts on motor configuration of the upcoming TM3 AWD (non-P) model? I ve seen the following configurations as possibilities... 1. 2 of current RWD motors 2. 2 smaller motors compared to current RWD (this makes the least amount of sense to me in terms of production efficiency) 3. Same rear motor as RWD with smaller front motor | Wilsenlow | 2018-06-28 18:40:05 | 10 | e1ge8dy | There will only be two motor configs: **RWD**: One big motor in rear **AWD (all versions)**: One big motor in rear smaller induction motor in front. Same type rear motor no matter what. Though supposedly the motors are binned (cherry-picked) to provide reliable ones for performance versions. Same motor just tested to insure ruggedness at full power. | jpbeans | 2018-06-28 18:58:39 | 7 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
8l0c4m | [Discussion] Model 3 AWD rides lower than RWD? | Noticed this when playing with the Model 3 configurator s compositor parameters. When equipped with the AWD (code DV4W) the car appears to be an inch or so lower than the same configuration but w RWD (code DV2W). To be clear: The wheels stay in the same place but the rest of the car is lower. Compare for yourself: Three\-quarter view: [RWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV2W& view=STUD_3QTR& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) [AWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV4W& view=STUD_3QTR& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) Wheel view: [RWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV2W& view=STUD_WHEEL& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) [AWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV4W& view=STUD_WHEEL& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) | gcalpo | 2018-05-21 12:12:08 | 22 | dzbu002 | I might expect the lowered stance from the performance AWD but not necessarily just the AWD. | curzyk | 2018-05-21 12:17:57 | 19 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
8l0c4m | [Discussion] Model 3 AWD rides lower than RWD? | Noticed this when playing with the Model 3 configurator s compositor parameters. When equipped with the AWD (code DV4W) the car appears to be an inch or so lower than the same configuration but w RWD (code DV2W). To be clear: The wheels stay in the same place but the rest of the car is lower. Compare for yourself: Three\-quarter view: [RWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV2W& view=STUD_3QTR& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) [AWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV4W& view=STUD_3QTR& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) Wheel view: [RWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV2W& view=STUD_WHEEL& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) [AWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV4W& view=STUD_WHEEL& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) | gcalpo | 2018-05-21 12:12:08 | 22 | dzby0r6 | Surely this is just the Photoshop guy goofing up? | stevehobbes | 2018-05-21 13:45:10 | 17 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
8l0c4m | [Discussion] Model 3 AWD rides lower than RWD? | Noticed this when playing with the Model 3 configurator s compositor parameters. When equipped with the AWD (code DV4W) the car appears to be an inch or so lower than the same configuration but w RWD (code DV2W). To be clear: The wheels stay in the same place but the rest of the car is lower. Compare for yourself: Three\-quarter view: [RWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV2W& view=STUD_3QTR& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) [AWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV4W& view=STUD_3QTR& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) Wheel view: [RWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV2W& view=STUD_WHEEL& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) [AWD](https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor?context=design_studio_2& options=$W39B $PMNG $DV4W& view=STUD_WHEEL& model=m3& size=1441& bkba_opt=1& version=0.0.25& version=0.0.25) | gcalpo | 2018-05-21 12:12:08 | 22 | dzc2ydd | it is just a render | GoTo3-UY | 2018-05-21 15:11:41 | 5 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
9ykp7u | [Discussion] Model 3 Bed Suggestions? | I m looking for something to make sleeping in my Model 3 comfy. High on my list of preferences are the following two factors: 1) As comfortable as sleeping in the back of a car can be preferably with enough cushioning so that someone with hips can sleep on their side without feeling like they re sleeping on a hardwood floor. 2) Something that can fold collapse deflate or otherwise allow it to be stored in the trunk during regular driving. Also something can can deploy and be packed up with little trouble would also be nice. Clearly I could buy a conventional mattress and throw it in there but that s not really what I m looking for since there d be no way to pack it up. I ve searched in the forums here and online and these are some of the options that come up the most. Does anyone have any input on these specifically? 1. [Folding Mattress](https: www.amazon.com gp product B01INZBBZQ ref=ox_sc_saved_title_9?smid=A2GUMCXR7HBXM2& psc=1) (I think this might not be cushiony enough) 2. [DreamCase](https: dreamcase.eu configurator-3-0 ?brand=tesla& model=3) (Super expensive AND doesn t seem like it would be easy to store in the trunk) 3. [Inflatable Mattress](https: www.amazon.com gp product B07CT623QZ ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=A3VTKEWSHZCKAO& psc=1) (Kinda expensive compared to the others but I m thinking this might be the best bet) 4. [Air Mattress](https: www.amazon.com gp product B00N9C3IVO ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=A37Q7WB9378G7B& psc=1) (Probably way too big to fit your legs under the trunk when sleeping). Any other products anyone has used that they think work well? Thanks! | laioren | 2018-11-19 20:39:04 | 24 | ea26vuv | I bought the MEISTERVIK twin (single) mattress from Ikea. It is super comfortable relatively cheap but does take either most of the trunk space if you just fold it in 2 quickly or 1 2 of the trunk space if you roll it tight (this can be challenging). Note that the Model 3 does not have camping mode yet. You can activate HVAC with phone but I have yet to find a solution when you don t have cell signal (besides waking up every hour to turn it back on by pressing the brake pedal with a stick(don t ask)). If you are able to park the car in a 5% grade slope then you probably don t need to remove the back row seat. I would also recommend not lifting some wheels off the ground with 2X4s to achieve this grade (don t ask). For more comfort removing the back seat is pretty easy (2 clips and 2 cables) but you need somewhere to put it after. You also need something to protect the from the metal parts below. | iiixii | 2018-11-19 21:48:33 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9ykp7u | [Discussion] Model 3 Bed Suggestions? | I m looking for something to make sleeping in my Model 3 comfy. High on my list of preferences are the following two factors: 1) As comfortable as sleeping in the back of a car can be preferably with enough cushioning so that someone with hips can sleep on their side without feeling like they re sleeping on a hardwood floor. 2) Something that can fold collapse deflate or otherwise allow it to be stored in the trunk during regular driving. Also something can can deploy and be packed up with little trouble would also be nice. Clearly I could buy a conventional mattress and throw it in there but that s not really what I m looking for since there d be no way to pack it up. I ve searched in the forums here and online and these are some of the options that come up the most. Does anyone have any input on these specifically? 1. [Folding Mattress](https: www.amazon.com gp product B01INZBBZQ ref=ox_sc_saved_title_9?smid=A2GUMCXR7HBXM2& psc=1) (I think this might not be cushiony enough) 2. [DreamCase](https: dreamcase.eu configurator-3-0 ?brand=tesla& model=3) (Super expensive AND doesn t seem like it would be easy to store in the trunk) 3. [Inflatable Mattress](https: www.amazon.com gp product B07CT623QZ ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=A3VTKEWSHZCKAO& psc=1) (Kinda expensive compared to the others but I m thinking this might be the best bet) 4. [Air Mattress](https: www.amazon.com gp product B00N9C3IVO ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=A37Q7WB9378G7B& psc=1) (Probably way too big to fit your legs under the trunk when sleeping). Any other products anyone has used that they think work well? Thanks! | laioren | 2018-11-19 20:39:04 | 24 | ea2ptbk | I tried sleeping inmy TM3 on a long road trip. My suggestion is to not even try it. You will not be able get a comfortable sleep. The fold down seat not enough room to turn around no height too much light coming through. Did not sleep much. Including a knock on my window by a stranger to tell me my lights were on! | Gatorinnc | 2018-11-20 02:14:24 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9ykp7u | [Discussion] Model 3 Bed Suggestions? | I m looking for something to make sleeping in my Model 3 comfy. High on my list of preferences are the following two factors: 1) As comfortable as sleeping in the back of a car can be preferably with enough cushioning so that someone with hips can sleep on their side without feeling like they re sleeping on a hardwood floor. 2) Something that can fold collapse deflate or otherwise allow it to be stored in the trunk during regular driving. Also something can can deploy and be packed up with little trouble would also be nice. Clearly I could buy a conventional mattress and throw it in there but that s not really what I m looking for since there d be no way to pack it up. I ve searched in the forums here and online and these are some of the options that come up the most. Does anyone have any input on these specifically? 1. [Folding Mattress](https: www.amazon.com gp product B01INZBBZQ ref=ox_sc_saved_title_9?smid=A2GUMCXR7HBXM2& psc=1) (I think this might not be cushiony enough) 2. [DreamCase](https: dreamcase.eu configurator-3-0 ?brand=tesla& model=3) (Super expensive AND doesn t seem like it would be easy to store in the trunk) 3. [Inflatable Mattress](https: www.amazon.com gp product B07CT623QZ ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=A3VTKEWSHZCKAO& psc=1) (Kinda expensive compared to the others but I m thinking this might be the best bet) 4. [Air Mattress](https: www.amazon.com gp product B00N9C3IVO ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=A37Q7WB9378G7B& psc=1) (Probably way too big to fit your legs under the trunk when sleeping). Any other products anyone has used that they think work well? Thanks! | laioren | 2018-11-19 20:39:04 | 24 | ea2sw1l | How about no pads mats but 2 (add remove for your comfort level) of those Korean mink blankets folded in half (though any old blankets comforters would probably do here) then the trick is a faux Chincilla throw from Bed Bath & Beyond also folded in half on top of everything else. Combined they add enough cushion and is plenty comfortable. I feel this is the most efficient route -- advantages include: * The price. Were talking < $50 for the Chincilla (or any extra thick plush) if you use your own extra blankets underneath. * Ease of load unload. You can still fold back the rear seats back up while everything is in place without any adjustments. You only have to make half the bed again a little bit when you fold them back down. Lots of groceries and such will still fit just fine in the remaining space while everything is folded back up. * Coverage area. You also have the advantage of being able to lay the blankets plushes out over the entire available area while toppers have a limited and linear coverage. * Works better for 2 people couples. I ll take pictures next time I m outside if anyone is interested. I m a night owl with a day job so I m always taking little naps in my model 3 while charging before I start my long commute home. Either way this should be easy to test if it could work for you without investing any cash then get better thicker stuff for your final result if you like it. | pbizzy | 2018-11-20 02:57:22 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8gugqy | [Discussion] Model 3 Black Seats and Hot Climate | I live in an area where temperatures from June to September typically reach 100 degrees daily. Received my invite to configure Model 3 in March but have been holding back waiting for white seats due to summer heat. But seeing earlier discussions of pre-conditioning I am hoping to hear from owners from similar hot climates on whether pre-conditioning makes black seats tolerable at worst or pleasant at best. I vowed never to get black seats living here but depending on comments I may be willing to pull the trigger and order. Thank you. | awankandanap | 2018-05-03 22:41:23 | 13 | dyer9bq | I saw the interior temperature of my car at 120 degrees an hour ago. I remotely turned climate control on and it was down to 70 degrees when I got in about 5 minutes later. I hope they soon roll out automatic cooling when the interior gets above 110 degrees or thereabouts. | 6p6ss6 | 2018-05-03 23:10:48 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8gugqy | [Discussion] Model 3 Black Seats and Hot Climate | I live in an area where temperatures from June to September typically reach 100 degrees daily. Received my invite to configure Model 3 in March but have been holding back waiting for white seats due to summer heat. But seeing earlier discussions of pre-conditioning I am hoping to hear from owners from similar hot climates on whether pre-conditioning makes black seats tolerable at worst or pleasant at best. I vowed never to get black seats living here but depending on comments I may be willing to pull the trigger and order. Thank you. | awankandanap | 2018-05-03 22:41:23 | 13 | dyeroic | I m in Vegas and have a Model S with black seats. Not once last summer did I regret them. | Jddssc121 | 2018-05-03 23:17:52 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8gugqy | [Discussion] Model 3 Black Seats and Hot Climate | I live in an area where temperatures from June to September typically reach 100 degrees daily. Received my invite to configure Model 3 in March but have been holding back waiting for white seats due to summer heat. But seeing earlier discussions of pre-conditioning I am hoping to hear from owners from similar hot climates on whether pre-conditioning makes black seats tolerable at worst or pleasant at best. I vowed never to get black seats living here but depending on comments I may be willing to pull the trigger and order. Thank you. | awankandanap | 2018-05-03 22:41:23 | 13 | dyewi98 | I have been seeing up to 123 F in the car so far when its mid-80s outside (not even hot yet). I do have 3M Crystalline all around except the windshield. If you don t precondition with the app the black seats are brutal. My problem is cell signal is spotty where my car is parked at work so I cant always precondition. The cabin overheat that my S had really took up that slack so I hope they add that to the 3 soon. I just ordered the roof shade from Tesla to compensate. | Az_Rael77 | 2018-05-04 00:40:05 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8f41ci | [Discussion] Model 3 Cabin Air Filter - Location? | The Manual only mentioned Cabin air filter should be replaced when necessary. Contact Tesla. No mention of type size or location of the air filter. The cabin air filtration in my Model 3 feels very effective at managing pollution and exhaust fumes. Curious about the location and the size of the filter. https: www.tesla.com content dam tesla Ownership Own Model%203%20Owners%20Manual.pdf | inspron2 | 2018-04-26 16:33:40 | 33 | dy0e9d7 | Great question! I prefer to replace my own filters as they are generally an $8 part and not $50 to have a traditional dealer do it. I have no idea what Tesla would charge or how often they would recommend replacing the filter. | _rdaneel_ | 2018-04-26 17:00:55 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8f41ci | [Discussion] Model 3 Cabin Air Filter - Location? | The Manual only mentioned Cabin air filter should be replaced when necessary. Contact Tesla. No mention of type size or location of the air filter. The cabin air filtration in my Model 3 feels very effective at managing pollution and exhaust fumes. Curious about the location and the size of the filter. https: www.tesla.com content dam tesla Ownership Own Model%203%20Owners%20Manual.pdf | inspron2 | 2018-04-26 16:33:40 | 33 | dy0ux6m | It s accessible from the passenger footwell. You have to pull the side trim off of the center console and there is a door in the HVAC to slide the filter out. | sckego | 2018-04-26 21:04:32 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8jlkoi | [Discussion] Model 3 Dashcam updates | Recently there were some articles saying that a constantly powered Blackvue would damage your 12V battery. Is anyone having success with the typical 12V install or is everyone installing dashcams with a battery? Anyone installed a Thinkware f800? TLDR: Some are still wiring to the 12V but it might create future errors but some have had them as long as 3 months with no errors. Others are wiring with a fuse and or a switch in between the battery and the camera either off the shelf fuses and flicky switches or a PMP. Some users are avoiding the model 3 system and charging with the expensive Blackvue battery hooked up to the 12V cig lighter and charging the battery while driving to feed the camera when parked. Doesn t seem to be a consensus yet on the best method. Thinkware looks bad... | floydianpulse | 2018-05-15 13:29:12 | 39 | dz0jvyl | I think the main issue is people wiring direct to the 12v battery terminals. I am hoping the wiring diagrams find their way to the internet so a proper always-on 12v source can be located which should avoid the battery warnings some people have encountered. The Model 3 is tricky since it uses electronic fuses the module does not need to be user accessable so a different approach to locate a proper source is needed over a standard fuse box. | Skysurfer27 | 2018-05-15 13:56:57 | 10 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
8jlkoi | [Discussion] Model 3 Dashcam updates | Recently there were some articles saying that a constantly powered Blackvue would damage your 12V battery. Is anyone having success with the typical 12V install or is everyone installing dashcams with a battery? Anyone installed a Thinkware f800? TLDR: Some are still wiring to the 12V but it might create future errors but some have had them as long as 3 months with no errors. Others are wiring with a fuse and or a switch in between the battery and the camera either off the shelf fuses and flicky switches or a PMP. Some users are avoiding the model 3 system and charging with the expensive Blackvue battery hooked up to the 12V cig lighter and charging the battery while driving to feed the camera when parked. Doesn t seem to be a consensus yet on the best method. Thinkware looks bad... | floydianpulse | 2018-05-15 13:29:12 | 39 | dz1ooz6 | It s kind of amazing that a car as advanced as a Tesla needs any kind of Dashcam at all. I would think this should be a standard feature with Tesla cams pre-installed as part of the car and the user just sets them to operate however they wish. Sure there is some minor battery drain trade-off. But if the user is OK with that who cares? I heard the rumor that Tesla is working on this and leveraging existing cams. Should be low hanging fruit for them. Amazed it s not something they implemented as yet another clear differentiator to show how their cars are more advanced than others. | WonkyDingo | 2018-05-16 00:26:39 | 7 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
8jlkoi | [Discussion] Model 3 Dashcam updates | Recently there were some articles saying that a constantly powered Blackvue would damage your 12V battery. Is anyone having success with the typical 12V install or is everyone installing dashcams with a battery? Anyone installed a Thinkware f800? TLDR: Some are still wiring to the 12V but it might create future errors but some have had them as long as 3 months with no errors. Others are wiring with a fuse and or a switch in between the battery and the camera either off the shelf fuses and flicky switches or a PMP. Some users are avoiding the model 3 system and charging with the expensive Blackvue battery hooked up to the 12V cig lighter and charging the battery while driving to feed the camera when parked. Doesn t seem to be a consensus yet on the best method. Thinkware looks bad... | floydianpulse | 2018-05-15 13:29:12 | 39 | dz15z88 | Looks like we need another Blackvue group buy. | Dr_Pippin | 2018-05-15 19:26:28 | 5 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
85ne3v | [Discussion] Model 3 Delivery Experience | Hi everyone After exactly 8 weeks from my configuration date I finally was able to pick up my Model 3. Just wanted to share my experience and discuss it with other TM3 owners to see if we had similar experiences or to let others know what to look for. The delivery itself was super smooth. The walkthrough of the car was great. The model 3 looks even better in person. I spent a good 15 minutes of my time going through the checklist of things to look for when you first take delivery. However I didn t catch all the things you are about to see because of lighting and because of the excitement of driving the new car. Here are the things I found when I REALLY inspected the car in the sunlight. https: imgur.com a U65Di As you can see in the album the TM3 was not in perfect condition. I will admit that most of these issues are small but maybe not what you would like to see in a brand new car. Did anyone else have a similar issue? How was your experience? I have already contacted Tesla for getting these issues addressed so I can provide an update on this if others would like. It seems like they will be making all of the needed repairs. | supermarkit | 2018-03-19 21:49:46 | 30 | dvys93p | Glad you got your car - definitely keep up with them on fixing those issues for you though. I agree they re fairly minor but... come on man it s brand new... | Ash-Housewares | 2018-03-19 22:58:46 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
85ne3v | [Discussion] Model 3 Delivery Experience | Hi everyone After exactly 8 weeks from my configuration date I finally was able to pick up my Model 3. Just wanted to share my experience and discuss it with other TM3 owners to see if we had similar experiences or to let others know what to look for. The delivery itself was super smooth. The walkthrough of the car was great. The model 3 looks even better in person. I spent a good 15 minutes of my time going through the checklist of things to look for when you first take delivery. However I didn t catch all the things you are about to see because of lighting and because of the excitement of driving the new car. Here are the things I found when I REALLY inspected the car in the sunlight. https: imgur.com a U65Di As you can see in the album the TM3 was not in perfect condition. I will admit that most of these issues are small but maybe not what you would like to see in a brand new car. Did anyone else have a similar issue? How was your experience? I have already contacted Tesla for getting these issues addressed so I can provide an update on this if others would like. It seems like they will be making all of the needed repairs. | supermarkit | 2018-03-19 21:49:46 | 30 | dvz7jvu | This really scares me this kind of quality is not acceptable for the money. | zemaker | 2018-03-20 03:34:16 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
85ne3v | [Discussion] Model 3 Delivery Experience | Hi everyone After exactly 8 weeks from my configuration date I finally was able to pick up my Model 3. Just wanted to share my experience and discuss it with other TM3 owners to see if we had similar experiences or to let others know what to look for. The delivery itself was super smooth. The walkthrough of the car was great. The model 3 looks even better in person. I spent a good 15 minutes of my time going through the checklist of things to look for when you first take delivery. However I didn t catch all the things you are about to see because of lighting and because of the excitement of driving the new car. Here are the things I found when I REALLY inspected the car in the sunlight. https: imgur.com a U65Di As you can see in the album the TM3 was not in perfect condition. I will admit that most of these issues are small but maybe not what you would like to see in a brand new car. Did anyone else have a similar issue? How was your experience? I have already contacted Tesla for getting these issues addressed so I can provide an update on this if others would like. It seems like they will be making all of the needed repairs. | supermarkit | 2018-03-19 21:49:46 | 30 | dvyvdsi | Mine has been in for 8 weeks with much worse issues. In fact I didn t even get to look at some of the items you mentioned. One thing that I don t see in your pictures is the panel gap issue on the fender. It looks very normal for a Tesla to me. | jjwardSD | 2018-03-19 23:53:09 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a0mfc5 | [Discussion] Model 3 Delivery Fiasco | So the delivery service team stopped responding to my emails never picks up the phone and when they do respond to my short emails they avoid my question. I had to escalate the issue to bump my delivery back I was given a 3 day notice without any contact prior with my delivery was ready. The delivery was scheduled this past Friday from 4-6pm but then I received a call at 4:50pm that my delivery would not be happening due to a paint defect. I was not pleased and already traded in my vehicle so they offered me a loaner after checking with management. The loaner would be picked up Sunday after 2pm. On Sunday at 11am I get a text that the loaner will be ready at 2pm I then get a call at 1:30pm and a text from another employee that my actual Model 3 is ready for pickup and the defect is fixed. I show up at 2:10pm to pickup my car only to be told it wasn t actually ready and end up getting the loaner. Anyone else experience this? It s frustrating and I don t get how they can operate like this.. | stapler88 | 2018-11-26 19:13:05 | 33 | eaiycpy | Having similar issues right now: Got sent a delivery date and was told my delivery advisor would contact me shortly I waited 10 days then called them to see what was happening. Rep on the phone was helpful after being on hold for an hour but still never heard from my Rep until 2 days before delivery. Was supposed to pick up today in MA because of CT laws. Have been scheduled in MA for weeks and day of they tell me I am not allowed to pick up in MA. Now they are shipping my car to NY and will send 2 hours passed my house and say CT home delivery is not available (even though many have had it). Took off this afternoon to go pick it up and was stoked now don t even know when I ll get it and I have a 2 hour drive on top of that when it is available. Also still have never seen a contract draft | Malex810 | 2018-11-26 20:48:03 | 8 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
8pl2ct | [Discussion] Model 3 EAP Calibration time | I ve just now hit 200 miles on the car and there is still no EAP available. I left a voicemail with Tesla Service last night and got a voicemail back this morning that the car is still in calibration mode and it will last a couple weeks . That doesn t line up with the three other Model 3 s I know who ve all had their EAP show up between 50 and 100 miles. My Autopilot settings screen also has nothing on it about autosteering or EAP or following distance. It s tough to find screenshots of what this particular screen looks like. If you have a Model 3 and your EAP is still calibrating what does your Autopilot settings screen have on it? If you re not still calibratring how long did your EAP take to calibrate? I had them add EAP after initial configuration and my Inside Sales Advisor was very very bad at her job so I wouldn t be surprised if I was charged for it but it wasn t actually enabled. I m just trying to find out before calling Tesla Service back and asking them to verify my car actually has it enabled and really is just being super slow to configure. | Crazy_Sniffable | 2018-06-08 15:59:15 | 14 | e0c1h9j | My friend invited me along to his delivery and we had AP after about 20-30 miles. He also explicitly turned it on before ever putting it in Drive - If you haven t turned it on maybe you need to before it can start gathering data? | tuba_man | 2018-06-08 16:10:33 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8j4nz2 | [Discussion] Model 3 LTE and Streaming plans | I picked up my new Model 3 yesterday in San Diego. While going over the car the Delivery specialist mentioned that the Music Streaming service is free for first year and that free LTE is for first 4 years only. To be honest this is the first time I heard about limited term availability of these 2 features. I have been visiting this subreddit almost every day for the last 6 weeks since configuring the car and didn t see any mention in any discussions. Is this just a Model 3 plan or the same applied to S X also? P.S. - I was pleasantly surprised to find a Model 3 diecast model in the center armrest console ! Even though I am first day reservation holder I thought it was only for people who reserved in store (I did it online). | the_m_factor | 2018-05-13 15:47:20 | 38 | dyww4t2 | I ve heard the same thing. And when I took delivery of my Model S they told me my LTE was free for 8 years and Tesla would decide what to do after that. It wouldn t surprise me if they continued a free program but it s in their best interest to limit it on paper so they re not promising free LTE forever. | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2018-05-13 15:53:07 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8j4nz2 | [Discussion] Model 3 LTE and Streaming plans | I picked up my new Model 3 yesterday in San Diego. While going over the car the Delivery specialist mentioned that the Music Streaming service is free for first year and that free LTE is for first 4 years only. To be honest this is the first time I heard about limited term availability of these 2 features. I have been visiting this subreddit almost every day for the last 6 weeks since configuring the car and didn t see any mention in any discussions. Is this just a Model 3 plan or the same applied to S X also? P.S. - I was pleasantly surprised to find a Model 3 diecast model in the center armrest console ! Even though I am first day reservation holder I thought it was only for people who reserved in store (I did it online). | the_m_factor | 2018-05-13 15:47:20 | 38 | dywvvqp | Wasn t mentioned to me. I honestly think they don t know yet. The DSpecialists sometimes don t know what theyre talking about. | dirtyfries | 2018-05-13 15:48:55 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8j4nz2 | [Discussion] Model 3 LTE and Streaming plans | I picked up my new Model 3 yesterday in San Diego. While going over the car the Delivery specialist mentioned that the Music Streaming service is free for first year and that free LTE is for first 4 years only. To be honest this is the first time I heard about limited term availability of these 2 features. I have been visiting this subreddit almost every day for the last 6 weeks since configuring the car and didn t see any mention in any discussions. Is this just a Model 3 plan or the same applied to S X also? P.S. - I was pleasantly surprised to find a Model 3 diecast model in the center armrest console ! Even though I am first day reservation holder I thought it was only for people who reserved in store (I did it online). | the_m_factor | 2018-05-13 15:47:20 | 38 | dywwk2w | Is there a SIM card slot that ll let you bring your own LTE provider? | ubermoxi | 2018-05-13 16:00:18 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8qo9rq | [Discussion] Model 3 NFC - iOS 12 Possibility? | Turns out every time I put my phone near the center arm rest Apple Pay prompts me. Given the new iOS 12 details regarding the NFC API would it be possible for Tesla to use phone NFC (with Touch Face ID) to authenticate driving and car entry (as bluetooth isn t as reliable)? Edit: may also allow for easier ride sharing or letting someone borrow the car without giving them your Tesla account credentials | LTTECH | 2018-06-13 00:54:12 | 17 | e0krzxq | This would be awesome | joevmarino | 2018-06-13 01:18:43 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8flpu1 | [Discussion] Model 3 Pano Roof Issues? | 800 miles and I ve developed a massive crack in the middle of the roof. I quadrupole checked for ANY impact and there s absolutely nothing that should have caused an issue. I did take an “s” on-ramp somewhat aggressively and felt some body flex but I wouldn t think that would crack the roof. Has anyone else experienced this? I m assuming Tesla will just take care of this do they provide loaners or am I just out of luck for as long as it takes to fix? | DbG925 | 2018-04-28 18:23:35 | 38 | dy4qv8c | [pictures](https: imgur.com gallery elqHeZa) | DbG925 | 2018-04-28 21:00:50 | 12 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
8flpu1 | [Discussion] Model 3 Pano Roof Issues? | 800 miles and I ve developed a massive crack in the middle of the roof. I quadrupole checked for ANY impact and there s absolutely nothing that should have caused an issue. I did take an “s” on-ramp somewhat aggressively and felt some body flex but I wouldn t think that would crack the roof. Has anyone else experienced this? I m assuming Tesla will just take care of this do they provide loaners or am I just out of luck for as long as it takes to fix? | DbG925 | 2018-04-28 18:23:35 | 38 | dy4je51 | Regardless of loaner or not they wouldn t need to take it in until they have the part in stock so you shouldn t be without your car for more than a day. The new policy for my service center at least if that you ll get a rental but not a Tesla loaner. | feurie | 2018-04-28 18:42:23 | 9 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
8flpu1 | [Discussion] Model 3 Pano Roof Issues? | 800 miles and I ve developed a massive crack in the middle of the roof. I quadrupole checked for ANY impact and there s absolutely nothing that should have caused an issue. I did take an “s” on-ramp somewhat aggressively and felt some body flex but I wouldn t think that would crack the roof. Has anyone else experienced this? I m assuming Tesla will just take care of this do they provide loaners or am I just out of luck for as long as it takes to fix? | DbG925 | 2018-04-28 18:23:35 | 38 | dy4y0d9 | Roofgate | ice__nine | 2018-04-28 23:21:04 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
8ufcnk | [Discussion] Model 3 RWD delivery in ~3-5 months for people invited to configure?!? Yet it s 4-6 months wait for people without a reservation? | I ve been stalling to place a Model 3 order waiting for different interior options to become available yet still planning to order soon enough to get the full $7500 back no matter what. When I got an initial invite delivery estimate was 4-6 weeks. Now it s \~3-5 months? How does this make any sense? I thought that production rates are going up - not down! | LithuanianAmerican | 2018-06-28 01:49:07 | 15 | e1f0s19 | Welcome to the world of Tesla. Where time doesn t mean anything. | gwoz8881 | 2018-06-28 02:09:52 | 12 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
8ufcnk | [Discussion] Model 3 RWD delivery in ~3-5 months for people invited to configure?!? Yet it s 4-6 months wait for people without a reservation? | I ve been stalling to place a Model 3 order waiting for different interior options to become available yet still planning to order soon enough to get the full $7500 back no matter what. When I got an initial invite delivery estimate was 4-6 weeks. Now it s \~3-5 months? How does this make any sense? I thought that production rates are going up - not down! | LithuanianAmerican | 2018-06-28 01:49:07 | 15 | e1ezrii | It s bugged everyone has that timeframe as a placeholder. Somebody in another thread had that timeframe yesterday when they placed their order and got the car today. | soapinmouth | 2018-06-28 01:52:24 | 8 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
8ufcnk | [Discussion] Model 3 RWD delivery in ~3-5 months for people invited to configure?!? Yet it s 4-6 months wait for people without a reservation? | I ve been stalling to place a Model 3 order waiting for different interior options to become available yet still planning to order soon enough to get the full $7500 back no matter what. When I got an initial invite delivery estimate was 4-6 weeks. Now it s \~3-5 months? How does this make any sense? I thought that production rates are going up - not down! | LithuanianAmerican | 2018-06-28 01:49:07 | 15 | e1ezyxj | Let Tesla get things sorted out. It s saying 3-5 months for most people which can t be right. | NoVA_traveler | 2018-06-28 01:55:54 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
80nsmn | [Discussion] Model 3 SR rollout process once available | By the time the Model 3 SR is being manufactured there will be thousands and thousands of reservation holders that have been invited to configure but chose not to and elected to wait for the standard range model. Obviously Tesla can t let all of them configure and put down $2500 immediately because there s no way they could meet all that demand in the 3-6 week window. How do you think they ll do it? Roll it out like they have been doing with first production? Employees first then owners then line waiters then online people? Will the invites to configure LR + PUP slow down significantly? | coasterswim | 2018-02-27 16:34:44 | 17 | duwuw06 | Everything anyone here says will be assumption. This execution would be pretty similar to what we re seeing currently I believe. That being said if I were in the lead of business sales operations I would: 1) Email campaign all deferrals in date order of deferral. 2) Phone campaign to all deferrals that haven t responded to the original email campaign. 3) As production continues to stabilize increase send a final reminder to all early deferrals. 4) Open production to (some) non-owners reservation holders. 5) Once initial production is handled spun up push to more groups of non-owners reservation holders. One thing to absolutely keep in mind: it is in Tesla s interest to sell more of their higher-margin vehicles with the Tax Credit than it is the lower-margin lower range cars. While this is 100% speculation (and my own personal opinion) I think that anyone expecting a SR Model 3 should *NOT* be expecting the Full Tax Credit. Edit: Updated that SR Model 3 purchases may not qualify for the FULL tax credit but instead the halved one into Q1 of 2019. | OverClokx | 2018-02-27 16:44:39 | 10 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
80nsmn | [Discussion] Model 3 SR rollout process once available | By the time the Model 3 SR is being manufactured there will be thousands and thousands of reservation holders that have been invited to configure but chose not to and elected to wait for the standard range model. Obviously Tesla can t let all of them configure and put down $2500 immediately because there s no way they could meet all that demand in the 3-6 week window. How do you think they ll do it? Roll it out like they have been doing with first production? Employees first then owners then line waiters then online people? Will the invites to configure LR + PUP slow down significantly? | coasterswim | 2018-02-27 16:34:44 | 17 | duwxv6b | What about LR non-PUP? I hope they do those before SR. I d rather spend that money on autopilot or AWD. | barrymccockner76 | 2018-02-27 17:30:40 | 7 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
axon0e | [Discussion] Model 3 SuperCharge very slow even the battery warm? | Here in Toronto the outside temperature is -7C(20F). I ran up to a local SC with a cold battery it starts charge only at 7kwh and slowly ramp up to 24 kWh no increase of charging speed from that point. At that time the snow sign on the display is gone and I am getting full re-gen. That means that the battery is warm now. But why is still very slow at 24kwh. BTW SOC starts at 35% and was about 60% at 24kwh. I changed to another SC stall but the result is the same. This Saturday I am about the 1st time to use my LR RWD Model 3 to drive a long distance day trip which requires SC. I don t want to stuck on the road for two hours with that SC charging speed. I have to reconsider to drive my wife R350 if that s the case. | zooS2018 | 2019-03-05 18:47:31 | 11 | ehv0jkg | Wish Tesla would give us a little more insight as to why we are charging slower than we expect. A simple message about the load on the station the charger you re connected to battery temp etc. I know info often causes more questions but it would be great to understand what s going on. Either that or they should push a Magic 8 Ball Easter Egg. “Will I make it to mom s in time for dinner?” “Reply hazy try again.” | phxees | 2019-03-05 19:23:43 | 12 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
axon0e | [Discussion] Model 3 SuperCharge very slow even the battery warm? | Here in Toronto the outside temperature is -7C(20F). I ran up to a local SC with a cold battery it starts charge only at 7kwh and slowly ramp up to 24 kWh no increase of charging speed from that point. At that time the snow sign on the display is gone and I am getting full re-gen. That means that the battery is warm now. But why is still very slow at 24kwh. BTW SOC starts at 35% and was about 60% at 24kwh. I changed to another SC stall but the result is the same. This Saturday I am about the 1st time to use my LR RWD Model 3 to drive a long distance day trip which requires SC. I don t want to stuck on the road for two hours with that SC charging speed. I have to reconsider to drive my wife R350 if that s the case. | zooS2018 | 2019-03-05 18:47:31 | 11 | ehuymb2 | Full regen is not necessarily warm enough for full supercharging speed. There are multiple heating targets for the battery as well a lower colder active heating target and then a higher passive heating target. I m not sure if the active heating target is raised even when supercharging so it may be that once it reaches that active target (which allows full regen) the only additional heating comes from inverter drive unit charge controller waste heat and that is even slower. As others have said if you drive long enough before supercharging you will get full speed but it takes a lot longer for that than it does just to get full regen back. | torndar | 2019-03-05 19:02:53 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
axon0e | [Discussion] Model 3 SuperCharge very slow even the battery warm? | Here in Toronto the outside temperature is -7C(20F). I ran up to a local SC with a cold battery it starts charge only at 7kwh and slowly ramp up to 24 kWh no increase of charging speed from that point. At that time the snow sign on the display is gone and I am getting full re-gen. That means that the battery is warm now. But why is still very slow at 24kwh. BTW SOC starts at 35% and was about 60% at 24kwh. I changed to another SC stall but the result is the same. This Saturday I am about the 1st time to use my LR RWD Model 3 to drive a long distance day trip which requires SC. I don t want to stuck on the road for two hours with that SC charging speed. I have to reconsider to drive my wife R350 if that s the case. | zooS2018 | 2019-03-05 18:47:31 | 11 | ehuzarx | In cold weather assume battery is to cold if you are getting slow charging speed. Almost always the reason but still we see 100 s of posts in different social media people woundering why. If you have driven all day and are on your second or third SuC then I would call Tesla and ask them to check my car. | Bizznizze | 2019-03-05 19:10:17 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8g1l3h | [Discussion] Model 3 Travel Charger - Extra Adapters | Hey All After some reading it looks like the Model 3 comes with the following chargers: * 240 volt NEMA 14-50 adapter * 120 volt NEMA 5-15 adapter * J1772 public charging adapter My question is what other adapters would be the best to buy and are common enough to justify buying it in the case I run into one? I live in canada. Do I even need any extras? | flexbomb0 | 2018-04-30 18:15:39 | 15 | dy83v21 | I would think it depends on where you drive and visit. RV parks typically have the nema 14-50 so you are covered there. Most Public chargers(non tesla) use the j1772 adaptor which is included. You may want to look at plugshare and see if there are any other public chargers that don t utilize either of those. I would think picking up the nema 5-20 if you think you would run into that outside a hotel. Some RV parks also use the 120v TT-30 (30amp) connector but I don t believe that Tesla sells a connector for that. Also if at an RV park they most likely have a 14-50 anyways. The 6-50 is a common welder outlet if you know someone who has that. I would think the included adapters would be good for 99.9999% of the scenarios you would encounter away from home. | mattk926 | 2018-04-30 18:23:23 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8de7tz | [Discussion] Model 3 Vampire Drain (20 miles per day) | I got my TM3 about a month ago 2 weeks ago I took it to service to have some stuff looked at like my AC and some panel gaps they also installed 2018.12.1. Ever since I ve been losing 20-22 miles a day to vampire drain the car rarely goes to sleep and often will wake up on its own. I ve since upgraded to 2018.14.1 and 2018.14.7 and that hasn t changed anything. My AC still doesn t function well (the compressor often won t turn on at all even if temp is set to LO other times only if fan is set to 9 10) and the other day I did a “Power Off” and just sat in the car with my phone BT disabled when all of the sudden the car turned on the climate control and heated seats resumed. I m not using any services that poll the car like TeslaFi not sure what the heck is happening. I live in an apartment building so the garage is warm and I m 7 floors above the car so not like I m within BT range to constantly be waking the car walking around my apartment. I called Tesla and they re not sure either and are “looking into it” for 2 weeks now. Anyone else experience anything similar any suggestions for what to do? Edit: I m also not using any apps like TeslaFi or anything that uses the API to poll the car. Edit2: MODEL 3 OWNERS if you are on version 2018.12.1 or above can you please respond stating or you also have this problem or if you do not? I m trying to get sense of how common this problem is. Update: 2018.14.13 did not fix the vampire drain for me. | URFIR3D | 2018-04-19 12:21:08 | 17 | dxmioav | In case this is your issue I was experiencing the same exact rate of vampire drain in my car. You can see it in [this chart.](https: i.imgur.com a7n2UWK.png) Apparently it was the tracking app that generated the chart (VisibleTesla) that was causing my Vampire drain. The app was polling the car for information every 5 seconds keeping the car from entering sleep mode. I turned off the app and [this was my result after a night in a 40 degree garage.](https: i.imgur.com zoAg408.jpg) Yeah 0 miles lost in 15 hours. So if that s normal then your car clearly has a problem that Tesla should address. | jonjiv | 2018-04-19 14:02:26 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
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