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I cried, "Oh my God, you're eating these!
Eu gritei: "Ai, meu Deus, você está comendo isso!
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I hope there's a little left for me!"
Tomara que tenha guardado um pouquinho pra mim!"
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I saw disbelief in the boy's eyes.
त्या मुलाने अविश्वासाने माझ्याकडे पाहिलं.
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"You ... eat these?"
"Tu... comes isto?"
en-pt
"I love these," I replied.
"Eu adoro isso", respondi.
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I could see he did not trust me one bit.
Vi que ele não acreditou numa palavra do que eu disse.
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How could an urban, educated woman like the same food as him?
Şehirli, eğitimli bir kadın onunla aynı yemeği nasıl sevebilirdi?
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Later, I broached the subject with his father, and it turned out to be a mighty touchy affair.
بعداً موضوع را با پدرش در میان گذاشتم، کار بسیار حساسی بود.
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He said things like, "Oh, only this son of mine likes to eat it.
这位父亲说, “哦,只有我这个儿子喜欢吃这玩意。
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We tell him, 'Give it up. It's bad.' He doesn't listen, you see.
我们告诉他,‘别吃了,很不好。’ 你看他完全不听。
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We gave up eating all this ages back."
همه ما هنگامی که هم‌سن او بودیم از این غذا دست برداشتیم.»
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"Why?" I asked.
"का?" मी विचारले.
en-mr
"This is your traditional food.
"Esta é a vossa comida tradicional.
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It is available in your environment, it is nutritious, and -- I can vouch for it -- delicious.
Está disponível aqui no seu ambiente. É nutritiva e, posso falar de cadeira, é deliciosa.
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Why is it wrong to eat it?"
چرا خوردنش اشتباه است؟»
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The man fell silent.
男人陷入了沉默。
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I asked, "Have you been told that your food is bad, that to eat it is backward, not civilized?"
E eu perguntei: "Alguém vos disse que esta comida era má? "Que comê-la era sinal de atraso? "Que não era civilizado?"
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He nodded silently.
Ele concordou com a cabeça.
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This was one of the many, many times in my work with indigenous people in India that I witnessed shame around food, shame that the food you love to eat, the food that has been eaten for generations, is somehow inferior, even subhuman.
Esta foi uma das muitas vezes no meu trabalho com os indianos que testemunhei a vergonha em volta dos alimentos. A vergonha de que gostamos de comer os alimentos que têm sido comidos durante gerações, e que, de certa maneira, são inferiores e até sub-humanos.
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And this shame is not limited to out-of-the-way, icky foods like insects or rats, maybe, but extends to regular foods: white vegetables, mushrooms, flowers -- basically, anything that is foraged rather than cultivated.
Bu utanç, böcekler ve sıçanlar gibi alışılmamış tiksindirici yiyeceklerle sınırlı değil fakat alışılmış gıdalara kadar uzanır: beyaz sebzeler, mantarlar, çiçekler, temel olarak ekili olmaktan ziyade yem olan herhangi bir şey.
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In indigenous India, this shame is omnipresent.
Na Índia nativa, a vergonha é omnipresente.
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Anything can trigger it.
Qualquer coisa pode desencadeá-la.
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One upper-caste vegetarian schoolmaster gets appointed in a school, within weeks, children are telling their parents it's yucky to eat crabs or sinful to eat meat.
一位高种姓的素食主义校长 刚到一所学校就任, 不出几个星期,孩子们就在 跟家长说,吃螃蟹很恶心, 或者吃肉有罪。
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A government nutrition program serves fluffy white rice, now no one wants to eat red rice or millets.
एका सरकारी पौष्टिक अन्न योजनेद्वारे मऊ पांढरा भात पुरवला जातो. आता कोणालाही लाल तांदूळ किंवा ज्वारी बाजरी खावीशी वाटत नाही.
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A nonprofit reaches this village with an ideal diet chart for pregnant women.
یک موسسه غیرانتفاعی به این روستا رسیده و یک چارت غذایی ایده‌آل برای زنان باردار
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All the expectant mothers are feeling sad that they cannot afford apples and crepes.
所有的准妈妈都很伤心, 因为她们买不起苹果和葡萄。
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And people just kind of forget the fruits that can be picked off the forest floor.
E as pessoas acabam se esquecendo das frutas que podem ser colhidas no mato.
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Health workers, religious missionaries, random government employees and even their own educated children are literally shouting it down at the indigenous people that their food is not good enough, not civilized enough.
आरोग्य सेवक, धर्म प्रचारक, कोणी सरकारी कर्मचारी, आणि त्यांची स्वतःची सुशिक्षित मुलेसुद्धा या आदिवासींना अक्षरशः ओरडून सांगताहेत की त्यांचे अन्न पुरेसे चांगले नाही. ते पुरेसे सुसंस्कृत नाही.
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And so food keeps disappearing, a little bit at a time.
आणि त्यामुळे हळू हळू थोडे थोडे अन्न नाहीसे होत आहे.
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I'm wondering if you all have ever considered whether your communities would have a similar history around food.
Pergunto-me se vocês já pensaram se as vossas comunidades terão tido uma história parecida sobre os alimentos.
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If you were to talk to your 90-year-old grandmother, would she talk about foods that you have never seen or heard of?
Quando vocês conversam com sua avó de 90 anos de idade, ela fala de alimentos dos quais nunca ouviram falar?
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Are you aware how much of your community's food is no longer available to you?
Vocês têm a noção de quantos dos alimentos da vossa comunidade já não estão disponíveis para vocês?
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Local experts tell me that the South African food economy is now entirely based on imported foods.
متخصصان محلی به من می‌گویند که تمام اقتصاد غذایی آفریقای جنوبی به واردات وابسته است.
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Corn has become the staple, while the local sorghum, millets, bulbs and tubers are all gone.
玉米已经成为了主食, 而当地的高粱、小米、 球茎和块茎全都不见了。
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So are the wild legumes and vegetables, while people eat potatoes and onions, cabbages and carrots.
野生豆类和蔬菜也都失去了踪影, 而人们吃的是土豆、洋葱、 卷心菜和胡萝卜。
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In my country, this loss of food is colossal.
माझ्या देशात अन्नाचा हा ऱ्हास प्रचंड प्रमाणावर झालेला आहे.
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Modern India is stuck with rice, wheat and diabetes.
现代印度已被米、麦子 和糖尿病套牢了。
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And we have totally forgotten foods like huge varieties of tubers, tree saps, fish, shellfish, oil seeds, mollusks, mushrooms, insects, small, nonendangered animal meats, all of which used to be available right within our surroundings.
आपण काही अन्न पूर्णपणे विसरून गेलो आहोत. उदाहरणार्थ, विविध प्रकारचे कंद, झाडांचे गोंद, मासे, कवचधारी मासे, तेलबिया, गोगलगायसदृश प्राणी, अळंबी, कीटक, नामशेष न झालेल्या छोट्या प्राण्यांचे मांस. हे सर्व आमच्या परिसरात उपलब्ध होते.
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So where has this food gone?
Bu yiyecekler nereye gitti?
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Why are our modern food baskets so narrow?
Por que nossas cestas de alimentos modernas são tão restritas?
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We could talk about the complex political economic and ecological reasons, but I am here to talk about this more human phenomenon of shame, because shame is the crucial point at which food actually disappears off your plate.
Karmaşık olan politik, ekonomik ve ekolojik nedenlerden bahsedebiliriz ama ben insani utanç olgusundan bahsetmek için buradayım çünkü utanç, yemeğin tabağınızdan gerçekten kaybolduğu en önemli nokta.
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What does shame do?
羞耻心会造成什么后果?
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Shame makes you feel small, sad, not worthy, subhuman.
A vergonha diminui-nos, entristece-nos, desvaloriza-nos, inferioriza-nos.
en-pt
Shame creates a cognitive dissonance.
Utanç, bilişsel bir uyumsuzluk yaratır.
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It distorts food stories.
它会扭曲食物的故事。
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Let us take this example.
Bu örneği ele alalım.
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How would you like to have a wonderful, versatile staple that is available abundantly in your environment?
Çevrenizde bol miktarda bulunan harika, çok yönlü bir temel gıda maddesine nasıl sahip olmak istersiniz?
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All you have to do is gather it, dry it, store it, and you have it for your whole year to cook as many different kinds of dishes as you want with it.
तुम्हांला फक्त ते गोळा करावे लागेल, वाळवावे लागेल, साठवावे लागेल. मग ते तुम्हांला वर्षभर पुरेल. तुम्ही त्यापासून हवे तितके विविध प्रकारचे पदार्थ बनवू शकाल.
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India had just such a food, called "mahua," this flower over there.
Hindistan'da "mahua" adı verilen bir yiyecek vardı, o çiçek işte şurada.
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And I have been researching this food for the past three years now.
من در سه سال گذشته در مورد این غذا تحقیق کرده‌ام.
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It is known to be highly nutritious in indigenous tradition and in scientific knowledge.
Yerli geleneğe ve bilimsel bilgiye göre oldukça besleyici olduğu biliniyor.
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For the indigenous, it used to be a staple for four to six months a year.
Para os indígenas, é usado como alimento básico durante seis meses a um ano.
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In many ways, it is very similar to your local marula, except that it is a flower, not a fruit.
De muitas maneiras, assemelha-se à marula local. Só que, em vez de ser um fruto, é uma flor.
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Where the forests are rich, people can still get enough to eat for the whole year and enough spare to sell.
Onde as florestas são ricas, as pessoas ainda conseguem o suficiente para comer o ano todo e ainda sobra para vender.
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I found 35 different dishes with mahua that no one cooks anymore.
Encontrei 35 pratos diferentes com mahua que ninguém prepara mais.
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This food is no longer even recognized as a food, but as raw material for liquor.
हे अन्न आता अन्न म्हणून ओळखलेसुद्धा जात नाही, तर दारूसाठी कच्चा माल म्हणून ओळखले जाते.
en-mr
You could be arrested for having it in your house.
Evinizde olduğu için tutuklanabilirsiniz.
en-tr
Reason? Shame.
O motivo? Vergonha.
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I talked to indigenous people all over India about why mahua is no longer eaten.
Hindistan'ın her yerindeki yerli insanlarla mahuanın artık neden yenilmediği hakkında konuştum.
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And I got the exact same answer.
E recebi exatamente a mesma resposta.
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"Oh, we used to eat it when we were dirt-poor and starving.
"Oh, nós costumávamos comer quando éramos pobres e famintos
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Why should we eat it now?
"Porque é que havíamos de a comer agora?
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We have rice or wheat."
Temos arroz ou trigo".
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And almost in the same breath, people also tell me how nutritious mahua is.
E quase no mesmo fôlego, as pessoas também me disseram quão nutritivo a "mahua" é.
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There are always stories of elders who used to eat mahua.
कोणी वृद्ध पूर्वी महुआ खात, त्यांच्या गोष्टी नेहमीच ऐकायला मिळतात.
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"This grandmother of ours, she had 10 children, and still she used to work so hard, never tired, never sick."
"Bu büyükannemizin 10 çocuğu vardı ve hâlâ çok çalışıyordu, hiç yorulmadı, asla hasta değildi. "
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The exact same dual narrative every single where.
प्रत्येक ठिकाणी अगदी हेच दुहेरी बोलणे.
en-mr
How does the same food get to be seen as very nutritious and a poverty food, almost in the same sentence?
چطور یک غذا هم خیلی مغذی است و هم غذای فقیرانه، آن هم تقریباً در یک جمله یکسان؟
en-fa
Same goes for other forest foods.
जंगलातल्या इतर अन्नाचीही हीच कथा.
en-mr
I have heard story after heartrending story of famine and starvation, of people surviving on trash foraged out of the forest, because there was no food.
Escutei histórias dilacerantes uma atrás das outras de fome e de inanição, de pessoas que sobreviviam do lixo que apanhavam na floresta, porque não havia alimentos.
en-pt
If I dig a little deeper, it turns out the lack was not of food per se but of something respectable like rice.
اگر کمی عمیق‌تر بنگریم، معلوم می‌شود، کمبود خود غذا نه بلکه کمبود چیز باکلاسی مثل برنج بود.
en-fa
I asked them, "How did you learn that your so-called trash is edible?
Daí, eu perguntava a eles: "Como vocês descobriram que o seu 'lixo' era comestível?
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Who told you that certain bitter tubers can be sweetened by leaving them in a stream overnight?
तुम्हांला कोणी सांगितले, की ते विशिष्ट कडू कंद गोड करण्यासाठी रात्रभर प्रवाहात ठेवावे?
en-mr
Or how to take the meat out of a snail shell?
Eti salyangoz kabuğundan nasıl çıkarabilirim?
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Or how to set a trap for a wild rat?"
Ya da vahşi bir fare için tuzak nasıl kurulur?"
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That is when they start scratching their heads, and they realize that they learned it from their own elders, that their ancestors had lived and thrived on these foods for centuries before rice came their way, and were way healthier than their own generation.
मग ते आपली डोकी खाजवू लागतात, आणि त्यांच्या लक्षात येते, की आपण हे वडिलधाऱ्यांकडून शिकलो आहोत. कित्येक शतके आपले पूर्वज या अन्नावर जगत होते, प्रगती करत होते. तांदूळ मिळण्यापूर्वी. आणि ते आपल्या या पिढीपेक्षा कितीतरी निरोगी होते.
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So this is how food works, how shame works: making food and food traditions disappear from people's lives and memories without their even realizing it.
अशी ही अन्नाची कहाणी. ही आहे शरमेची करामत: लोकांच्या आयुष्यातून, आठवणीतून अन्न आणि अन्न परंपरा नाहीशा करणे. त्यांना जाणीवही होऊ न देता.
en-mr
So how do we undo this trend?
那么我们该如何逆转这个趋势呢?
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How do we reclaim our beautiful and complex systems of natural food, food given to us lovingly by Mother Earth according to her own rhythm, food prepared by our foremothers with joy and are eaten by our forefathers with gratitude, food that is healthy, local, natural, varied, delicious, not requiring cultivation, not damaging our ecology, not costing a thing?
आपल्या नैसर्गिक अन्नवापराच्या सुंदर, व्यामिश्र पद्धती परत कशा मिळवाव्यात? धरणीमातेने तिच्या निसर्गचक्रानुसार आपल्याला प्रेमाने दिलेले अन्न, जे आपल्या आज्यापणज्यांनी आनंदाने रांधले, आणि आपल्या पितामहांनी जे कृतज्ञतेने खाल्ले असे पौष्टिक, स्थानिक, नैसर्गिक अन्न, विविधतेने नटलेले, स्वादिष्ट अन्न, जे पिकवावे लागत नाही, जे पर्यावरणाची हानी करत नाही, ज्यासाठी काही खर्च येत नाही?
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We all need this food, and I don't think I have to tell you why.
Hepimizin bu yiyeceğe ihtiyacı var ve size nedenini söylemem gerektiğini sanmıyorum.
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I don't have to tell you about the global health crisis, climate change, water crisis, soil fatigue, collapsing agricultural systems, all that.
Size küresel sağlık krizinden, mevsim değişikliğinden, su krizinden, toprak yorgunluğundan, çökmekte olan tarım sistemlerinden, bunların hepsinden bahsetmek zorunda değilim.
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But for me, equally important reasons why we need these foods are the deeply felt ones, because food is so many things, you see.
但对于我来说,我们内心深处 需要这些食物的原因 同样重要, 因为食物饱含了如此丰富的意义,
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Food is nourishment, comfort, creativity, community, pleasure, safety, identity and so much more.
غذا، تغذیه، آسایش، خلاقیت، اجتماع، لذت، امنیت، هویت و بسیاری چیزهای دیگر است.
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How we connect with our food defines so much in our lives.
O modo como nos conectamos com nossa comida define tanta coisa em nossa vida.
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It defines how we connect with our bodies, because our bodies are ultimately food.
غذا نحوه ارتباط ما با بدن‌مان را تعریف می‌کند، چون بدن ما نتیجه غذاست.
en-fa
It defines our basic sense of connection with our existence.
食物定义了我们与自身存在 相联系的基本感受。
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We need these foods most today to be able to redefine our space as humans within the natural scheme of things.
Precisamos desses alimentos hoje mais do que nunca para conseguirmos redefinir nosso espaço como humanos dentro do esquema natural das coisas.
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And are we needing such a redefinition today?
今天我们是否需要这样的重新定义?
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For me, the only real answer is love, because love is the only thing that counters shame.
Para mim, a única resposta real é o amor, pois ele é a única coisa que se contrapõe à vergonha.
en-pt-br
And how do we bring more of this love into our connections with our food?
आपल्या अन्नाशी असणाऱ्या संबंधात जास्त प्रेम कसे आणावे?
en-mr
For me, love is, in a big way, about the willingness to slow down, to take the time to feel, sense, listen, inquire.
对于我来说,爱在很大程度上 是关于甘愿放慢脚步, 花时间去感受、 感觉、聆听、探询。
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It could be listening to our own bodies.
स्वतःच्या शरीराचे संकेत ऐकणे हेही प्रेम म्हणता येईल.
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What do they need beneath our food habits, beliefs and addictions?
Yeme alışkanlıklarımızın, inançlarımızın ve bağımlılıklarımızın altında neye ihtiyaçları var?
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It could be taking time out to examine those beliefs.
Pode ser parando um pouco para examinar essas crenças.
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Where did they come from?
Nereden geldiler?
en-tr
It could be going back into our childhood.
爱可以是回溯我们的童年。
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What foods did we love then, and what has changed?
त्या वेळी कोणते अन्न आवडत होते? आता काय बदलले आहे?
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It could be spending a quiet evening with an elder, listening to their food memories, maybe even helping them cook something they love and sharing a meal.
Yaşlı biriyle sakin bir akşam geçirmek, yemek hatıralarını dinlemek, hatta sevdikleri bir şeyi pişirmelerine ve bir yemeği paylaşmalarına yardımcı olmak olabilir.
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Love could be about remembering that humanity is vast and food choices differ.
爱可以是想起 人类的种群如此多样, 饮食选择各不相同。
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It could be about showing respect and curiosity instead of censure when we see somebody enjoying a really unfamiliar food.
爱可以是在看见别人享用 非常陌生的食物时, 表现出尊敬与好奇, 而不是训斥。
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