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5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daykfhx | dayik2d | 1,481,236,645 | 1,481,234,318 | 1,289 | 46 | I believe there might be a more simple answer to this. Call the police back again saying she broke into the house and when she claims to be a legal tenant ask her to show the police how she enters and exits the property and what key she is using. She doesn't have a key so how she is entering the property? | Ahhhh...the squatters rights. From my entire 4 years that I lived in England, I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard stories about being going on Holiday for three weeks in Spain, come back, and people have broken into THEIR home, live there as its their own house, and couldn't be removed without eviction process. Really makes me wonder sometimes. | 1 | 2,327 | 28.021739 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | dayfqem | dayekqe | 1,481,230,987 | 1,481,229,656 | 340 | 314 | You have to inform her that she is being recorded. If I were in such a situation, I would immediately install web-enabled security cameras all over the house (except for in the bathrooms) that also record audio and let her know that the premises is now under 24 hour surveillance. Make sure that the data is being recorded to a cloud service so she can't just try to break your electronics. You should also affix a sign to your doors advertising that the premises is under both video and audio surveillance. Now she will have to deal with being recorded 24/7 and she'll eventually slip up and you can use that as evidence against her. Also, make sure that everything is documented and call the police if she starts to damage your new surveillance system. I would also immediately start the eviction process in case she doesn't leave on her own after that. INAL though so take whatever I say with a grain of salt. If anything I listed here is illegal, I'm sure someone will be along to challenge it. | That "friend" is a dangerous person. That is some next-level sociopathy. OP secure valuables. Lock credit against ID theft. Also if OP waits for friend to leave house, can OP just throw all friends shit out on the street? Friend calls police and says I was illegally evicted. OP says friend has no proof of being a resident. If OP can make police call it civil matter so friend has no choice but to sue, then OP should be ok (but ready to be sued by a sociopath). | 1 | 1,331 | 1.082803 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daydop6 | dayfqem | 1,481,228,634 | 1,481,230,987 | 64 | 340 | > Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. Yes, because the person being recorded doesn't consent. > How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? If the police won't take action, eviction is all you have. | You have to inform her that she is being recorded. If I were in such a situation, I would immediately install web-enabled security cameras all over the house (except for in the bathrooms) that also record audio and let her know that the premises is now under 24 hour surveillance. Make sure that the data is being recorded to a cloud service so she can't just try to break your electronics. You should also affix a sign to your doors advertising that the premises is under both video and audio surveillance. Now she will have to deal with being recorded 24/7 and she'll eventually slip up and you can use that as evidence against her. Also, make sure that everything is documented and call the police if she starts to damage your new surveillance system. I would also immediately start the eviction process in case she doesn't leave on her own after that. INAL though so take whatever I say with a grain of salt. If anything I listed here is illegal, I'm sure someone will be along to challenge it. | 0 | 2,353 | 5.3125 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | dayekqe | daydop6 | 1,481,229,656 | 1,481,228,634 | 314 | 64 | That "friend" is a dangerous person. That is some next-level sociopathy. OP secure valuables. Lock credit against ID theft. Also if OP waits for friend to leave house, can OP just throw all friends shit out on the street? Friend calls police and says I was illegally evicted. OP says friend has no proof of being a resident. If OP can make police call it civil matter so friend has no choice but to sue, then OP should be ok (but ready to be sued by a sociopath). | > Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. Yes, because the person being recorded doesn't consent. > How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? If the police won't take action, eviction is all you have. | 1 | 1,022 | 4.90625 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | dayiyt7 | dayh0m1 | 1,481,234,818 | 1,481,232,491 | 270 | 129 | I am not a lawyer, but I'd try to go to the police and file for a restraining order against her. | Go down to the sherrifs office and speak with them. Explain everything you've said here. Do you have text messages showing that she asked to stay over? | 1 | 2,327 | 2.093023 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daydop6 | dayiyt7 | 1,481,228,634 | 1,481,234,818 | 64 | 270 | > Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. Yes, because the person being recorded doesn't consent. > How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? If the police won't take action, eviction is all you have. | I am not a lawyer, but I'd try to go to the police and file for a restraining order against her. | 0 | 6,184 | 4.21875 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | dayiq03 | dayiyt7 | 1,481,234,518 | 1,481,234,818 | 58 | 270 | Get it in writing. You need two party consent for an *audio* recording, but if she texts you anything about it thats fair game. Send her a text in which she would respond admitting she wasnt a tenant. Something like "why did you suddenly need somewhere to stay on Wednesday" or something that locks in a specific time that she can respond to confirming or denying it. | I am not a lawyer, but I'd try to go to the police and file for a restraining order against her. | 0 | 300 | 4.655172 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | dayik2d | dayiyt7 | 1,481,234,318 | 1,481,234,818 | 46 | 270 | Ahhhh...the squatters rights. From my entire 4 years that I lived in England, I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard stories about being going on Holiday for three weeks in Spain, come back, and people have broken into THEIR home, live there as its their own house, and couldn't be removed without eviction process. Really makes me wonder sometimes. | I am not a lawyer, but I'd try to go to the police and file for a restraining order against her. | 0 | 500 | 5.869565 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daykfd6 | dayh0m1 | 1,481,236,640 | 1,481,232,491 | 192 | 129 | This seems like the way to go? http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/whois.shtml "Single lodger in a private residence A lodger is a person who lives in a room in a house where the owner lives. The owner can enter all areas occupied by the lodger and has overall control of the house.9 Most lodgers have the same rights as tenants.10 However, in the case of a single lodger in a house where there are no other lodgers, the owner can evict the lodger without using formal eviction proceedings. The owner can give the lodger written notice that the lodger cannot continue to use the room. The amount of notice must be the same as the number of days between rent payments (for example, 30 days). (See "Tenant's notice to end a periodic tenancy".) When the owner has given the lodger proper notice and the time has expired, the lodger has no further right to remain in the owner's house and may be removed as a trespasser.11" | Go down to the sherrifs office and speak with them. Explain everything you've said here. Do you have text messages showing that she asked to stay over? | 1 | 4,149 | 1.488372 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daydop6 | daykfd6 | 1,481,228,634 | 1,481,236,640 | 64 | 192 | > Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. Yes, because the person being recorded doesn't consent. > How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? If the police won't take action, eviction is all you have. | This seems like the way to go? http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/whois.shtml "Single lodger in a private residence A lodger is a person who lives in a room in a house where the owner lives. The owner can enter all areas occupied by the lodger and has overall control of the house.9 Most lodgers have the same rights as tenants.10 However, in the case of a single lodger in a house where there are no other lodgers, the owner can evict the lodger without using formal eviction proceedings. The owner can give the lodger written notice that the lodger cannot continue to use the room. The amount of notice must be the same as the number of days between rent payments (for example, 30 days). (See "Tenant's notice to end a periodic tenancy".) When the owner has given the lodger proper notice and the time has expired, the lodger has no further right to remain in the owner's house and may be removed as a trespasser.11" | 0 | 8,006 | 3 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daykfd6 | dayiq03 | 1,481,236,640 | 1,481,234,518 | 192 | 58 | This seems like the way to go? http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/whois.shtml "Single lodger in a private residence A lodger is a person who lives in a room in a house where the owner lives. The owner can enter all areas occupied by the lodger and has overall control of the house.9 Most lodgers have the same rights as tenants.10 However, in the case of a single lodger in a house where there are no other lodgers, the owner can evict the lodger without using formal eviction proceedings. The owner can give the lodger written notice that the lodger cannot continue to use the room. The amount of notice must be the same as the number of days between rent payments (for example, 30 days). (See "Tenant's notice to end a periodic tenancy".) When the owner has given the lodger proper notice and the time has expired, the lodger has no further right to remain in the owner's house and may be removed as a trespasser.11" | Get it in writing. You need two party consent for an *audio* recording, but if she texts you anything about it thats fair game. Send her a text in which she would respond admitting she wasnt a tenant. Something like "why did you suddenly need somewhere to stay on Wednesday" or something that locks in a specific time that she can respond to confirming or denying it. | 1 | 2,122 | 3.310345 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daykfd6 | dayik2d | 1,481,236,640 | 1,481,234,318 | 192 | 46 | This seems like the way to go? http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/whois.shtml "Single lodger in a private residence A lodger is a person who lives in a room in a house where the owner lives. The owner can enter all areas occupied by the lodger and has overall control of the house.9 Most lodgers have the same rights as tenants.10 However, in the case of a single lodger in a house where there are no other lodgers, the owner can evict the lodger without using formal eviction proceedings. The owner can give the lodger written notice that the lodger cannot continue to use the room. The amount of notice must be the same as the number of days between rent payments (for example, 30 days). (See "Tenant's notice to end a periodic tenancy".) When the owner has given the lodger proper notice and the time has expired, the lodger has no further right to remain in the owner's house and may be removed as a trespasser.11" | Ahhhh...the squatters rights. From my entire 4 years that I lived in England, I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard stories about being going on Holiday for three weeks in Spain, come back, and people have broken into THEIR home, live there as its their own house, and couldn't be removed without eviction process. Really makes me wonder sometimes. | 1 | 2,322 | 4.173913 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daydop6 | dayh0m1 | 1,481,228,634 | 1,481,232,491 | 64 | 129 | > Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. Yes, because the person being recorded doesn't consent. > How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? If the police won't take action, eviction is all you have. | Go down to the sherrifs office and speak with them. Explain everything you've said here. Do you have text messages showing that she asked to stay over? | 0 | 3,857 | 2.015625 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daykpmf | daydop6 | 1,481,237,001 | 1,481,228,634 | 92 | 64 | Go down to the police station and ask to speak to the watch commander. Explain the situation. A crime is in progress in your house. They may still balk at helping you, but you will have an extra level of reporting. Then, go to the County Courthouse and to the DA's offices and ask for a consult there. Consider calling the local mental health emergency team (most California counties have them). You may be surprised at their response, they may actually listen more carefully to what you're saying. This is one of the most awful stories I've read on here (that doesn't involve outright violence). | > Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. Yes, because the person being recorded doesn't consent. > How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? If the police won't take action, eviction is all you have. | 1 | 8,367 | 1.4375 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daykpmf | dayiq03 | 1,481,237,001 | 1,481,234,518 | 92 | 58 | Go down to the police station and ask to speak to the watch commander. Explain the situation. A crime is in progress in your house. They may still balk at helping you, but you will have an extra level of reporting. Then, go to the County Courthouse and to the DA's offices and ask for a consult there. Consider calling the local mental health emergency team (most California counties have them). You may be surprised at their response, they may actually listen more carefully to what you're saying. This is one of the most awful stories I've read on here (that doesn't involve outright violence). | Get it in writing. You need two party consent for an *audio* recording, but if she texts you anything about it thats fair game. Send her a text in which she would respond admitting she wasnt a tenant. Something like "why did you suddenly need somewhere to stay on Wednesday" or something that locks in a specific time that she can respond to confirming or denying it. | 1 | 2,483 | 1.586207 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | dayik2d | daykpmf | 1,481,234,318 | 1,481,237,001 | 46 | 92 | Ahhhh...the squatters rights. From my entire 4 years that I lived in England, I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard stories about being going on Holiday for three weeks in Spain, come back, and people have broken into THEIR home, live there as its their own house, and couldn't be removed without eviction process. Really makes me wonder sometimes. | Go down to the police station and ask to speak to the watch commander. Explain the situation. A crime is in progress in your house. They may still balk at helping you, but you will have an extra level of reporting. Then, go to the County Courthouse and to the DA's offices and ask for a consult there. Consider calling the local mental health emergency team (most California counties have them). You may be surprised at their response, they may actually listen more carefully to what you're saying. This is one of the most awful stories I've read on here (that doesn't involve outright violence). | 0 | 2,683 | 2 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | dayiq03 | dayik2d | 1,481,234,518 | 1,481,234,318 | 58 | 46 | Get it in writing. You need two party consent for an *audio* recording, but if she texts you anything about it thats fair game. Send her a text in which she would respond admitting she wasnt a tenant. Something like "why did you suddenly need somewhere to stay on Wednesday" or something that locks in a specific time that she can respond to confirming or denying it. | Ahhhh...the squatters rights. From my entire 4 years that I lived in England, I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard stories about being going on Holiday for three weeks in Spain, come back, and people have broken into THEIR home, live there as its their own house, and couldn't be removed without eviction process. Really makes me wonder sometimes. | 1 | 200 | 1.26087 |
5h99jj | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | A friend of mine broke into my house, put her stuff at random places to make it look like she's been a tenant, cops arrive, finds her stuff all over the place and so of course they won't remove her. What do I do now? I have a friend who called me last night asking for a place to stay. I politely told her no. She's 25, I'm 19 and I should mention she's a narcissistic bitch. Today I was over at my cousin's place this morning and when I came home a couple of hours ago I found this bitch inside my house. No signs of a break in from the outside. I ask her how she got in and she tells me through the back window. I tell her I never gave you permission to come here and that she needs to leave immediately and she says "deal with it". I call the cops and tell them that there's a person who got inside my house without my permission and that I need an officer to come and remove her. A couple of minutes later they arrive and here's what happens. She tells them "I know my rights officers I've been a legal tenant in this house for two months now and you can't just remove me. I can go around show you my clothes in the wardrobe. My toothbrush and my conditioner in the bathroom and all of my other stuff." .. they take a walk with her and all of her fucking stuff is all over my house!! She fucking broke into my house, put her stuff all over so that the cops would think she's been a tenant. The next thing they tell me is that I have to serve her with an eviction notice and that they can't legally remove her since she's considered a tenant. I didn't even know what to tell them as I felt so dumbfounded and shocked I was set up like this. I was silent for a few seconds and so they try to explain how the law works to me but since I just keep looking at them in silence not believing myself they just proceed to leave. I'm so fucking pissed. I'm in California so I can't even record her confessing to what she's done. If I can do that under an exception I could easily do it because apparently she has no problem admitting to it when the cops aren't here. I'm not, however, going to do so if it will lead to more problems. I've also thought about calling 911 or the non-emergency line and telling the operator about the situation so that the call would be recorded and then make my "friend" confess about it. Can I do that? Me and the operator are aware of the call being recorded. I think it still would be unlawful. How do I get this bitch out without having to serve her eviction notice? Isn't that against the law what she did there? Isn't this fraud? I've thought about trying to prove that she's been living somewhere else before but I don't know what to do. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry about my language but I'm really feeling so angry and I'm trying to be calm as much as I can while she's in my fucking house using my stuff and I can't do shit about it. Thanks... | daykr4o | dayl6jt | 1,481,237,054 | 1,481,237,606 | 35 | 41 | Wait until she leaves. Lock all the doors and windows. Make her the one to call police. When they show up, tell them she doesn't live there. Force her to produce evidence of occupancy. | Have you had people over to your house in the last two months who have seen the room empty and will testify to that fact? Get them to come over (the more the better) and then call the police. Four people telling them that this woman wasn't living there yesterday goes a lot further than one person. | 0 | 552 | 1.171429 |
tpxe94 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Date’s ex bf broke into my house NJ Got a friend request from a bartender at this bar I used to play at when I was in a band. Always thought she was cute. Started talking. After a few weeks of that she came to my place Friday night. We were going to bed around midnight and not more than a minute or two after we laid in bed did I hear a bang and some how I just knew someone was breaking in. A second bang and he was in the house. Ripped the storm door off the hinges and battered through the main door. It turns out her ex is the bar owner. I had no idea. How or why would I? We had a “hey man, you guys sounded good” and “thanks for having us.” Relationship. Never talked more than that. I live over an hour away from both the woman and the bar owner. I keep a Ka-bar knife in my nightstand, I immediately jumped out of bed grabbed that, got into a power stance and called 911. Didn’t know who it was yet. He came into my bedroom holding a dumbbell (I have a gym on my back porch where he broke in through) and I called him by name and yelled. “what the fuck are you doing here?” at him. Dispatch picked up by now, I’m giving them my address. He left, started to come back, the woman yelled at him, he pushed her to the floor and ran away. Cops were called, police report, the whole nine. Except the woman didn’t file a restraining order. She wouldn’t go back to the station with the police officers. It turns out he’s been breaking into her house and following her, smashed her car up to the point she had to buy a new one….she started telling all this to the officers that arrived on scene. First time I was hearing any of it. She asked me to drop the whole thing and let it go, trying to down play it like it’s not a big. He broke into my home, it’s a big deal. I already got a contractor to come in and install a whole new door, told him to spare nothing in the security department. I know the state will prosecute him if he’s found. Hasn’t been at the time I’m posting this. Do I get called as a witness? I am absolutely willing to testify. How do I get reimbursed for damages to my door/repair cost? Do I have to sue him separately? Can I take any legal action against him beyond being witness in the states trial? | i2dv3ew | i2e4vpo | 1,648,431,074 | 1,648,435,978 | 632 | 774 | You'll likely hear from a detective soon, if this happened Saturday. | You can sue him in Civil court for the cost of the repairs. Depending on those costs, let your home owners insurance handle that part. | 0 | 4,904 | 1.224684 |
tpxe94 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Date’s ex bf broke into my house NJ Got a friend request from a bartender at this bar I used to play at when I was in a band. Always thought she was cute. Started talking. After a few weeks of that she came to my place Friday night. We were going to bed around midnight and not more than a minute or two after we laid in bed did I hear a bang and some how I just knew someone was breaking in. A second bang and he was in the house. Ripped the storm door off the hinges and battered through the main door. It turns out her ex is the bar owner. I had no idea. How or why would I? We had a “hey man, you guys sounded good” and “thanks for having us.” Relationship. Never talked more than that. I live over an hour away from both the woman and the bar owner. I keep a Ka-bar knife in my nightstand, I immediately jumped out of bed grabbed that, got into a power stance and called 911. Didn’t know who it was yet. He came into my bedroom holding a dumbbell (I have a gym on my back porch where he broke in through) and I called him by name and yelled. “what the fuck are you doing here?” at him. Dispatch picked up by now, I’m giving them my address. He left, started to come back, the woman yelled at him, he pushed her to the floor and ran away. Cops were called, police report, the whole nine. Except the woman didn’t file a restraining order. She wouldn’t go back to the station with the police officers. It turns out he’s been breaking into her house and following her, smashed her car up to the point she had to buy a new one….she started telling all this to the officers that arrived on scene. First time I was hearing any of it. She asked me to drop the whole thing and let it go, trying to down play it like it’s not a big. He broke into my home, it’s a big deal. I already got a contractor to come in and install a whole new door, told him to spare nothing in the security department. I know the state will prosecute him if he’s found. Hasn’t been at the time I’m posting this. Do I get called as a witness? I am absolutely willing to testify. How do I get reimbursed for damages to my door/repair cost? Do I have to sue him separately? Can I take any legal action against him beyond being witness in the states trial? | i2fjkfi | i2fhajl | 1,648,471,678 | 1,648,470,395 | 11 | 6 | Sure there not in on it together? | You'll hear from the cops. Do what they ask you to do nothing more nothing less. You will probably have to sue him for costs, if you can you should get a lawyer to advise you how to move forward and you should limit talking about this to anyone who isn't your lawyer or the authorities. | 1 | 1,283 | 1.833333 |
2x6kwu | legaladvice_train | 0.84 | San Francisco Bay Area - Car Stolen and totaled by a gang of high schoolers. Thief left backpack in car. My car was stolen yesterday by a gang of high schoolers. Filed a police report and the car was impounded. I went to pick up my car, and it was totaled. The thiefs did leave a backpack with their school work in my car. The car was an old 99 Honda, so I don't have full coverage insurance. Do I have any options? Thanks for your time. | coxcykt | coxdnyp | 1,424,915,149 | 1,424,916,414 | 5 | 11 | Sorry to hear that. It really sucks. Yes, you can sue them. I had a truck stolen by some joy riding ass hats years ago. Similar situation in that I was only carrying liability. The short version is the judge ordered the little bastard to pay me $800 or whatever it was. About two months later I got a check for $26 and that's the last I ever heard from "Rabbit" (Apparently that was his street name). My point is you can sue and hope either he or his parents are able to pay. | If you do decide to sue, you are lucky that California explicitly makes parents liable for the intentional torts of their children. > 1714.1. (a) Any act of willful misconduct of a minor that results in injury or death to another person or in any injury to the property of another shall be imputed to the parent or guardian having custody and control of the minor for all purposes of civil damages, and the parent or guardian having custody and control shall be jointly and severally liable with the minor for any damages resulting from the willful misconduct. But, is the value of the car worth the time and effort to do so? That's what you really need to decide. | 0 | 1,265 | 2.2 |
2x6kwu | legaladvice_train | 0.84 | San Francisco Bay Area - Car Stolen and totaled by a gang of high schoolers. Thief left backpack in car. My car was stolen yesterday by a gang of high schoolers. Filed a police report and the car was impounded. I went to pick up my car, and it was totaled. The thiefs did leave a backpack with their school work in my car. The car was an old 99 Honda, so I don't have full coverage insurance. Do I have any options? Thanks for your time. | coxfy9w | coxcykt | 1,424,920,550 | 1,424,915,149 | 10 | 5 | Is this your homework Larry? | Sorry to hear that. It really sucks. Yes, you can sue them. I had a truck stolen by some joy riding ass hats years ago. Similar situation in that I was only carrying liability. The short version is the judge ordered the little bastard to pay me $800 or whatever it was. About two months later I got a check for $26 and that's the last I ever heard from "Rabbit" (Apparently that was his street name). My point is you can sue and hope either he or his parents are able to pay. | 1 | 5,401 | 2 |
kxjcpr | legaladvice_train | 0.81 | Motorcycle was stolen and repaired at a shop. The shop has the motorcycle and says I need to pay repairs to retrieve. Is this legal? Like the post says, my motorcycle was stolen a number of years ago. A person dropped the motorcycle off for repairs at a shop totaling $2,200 and never picked it up. When the wrecker shop went to go try and sell it after abandoning, they found out it was stolen, and I received a call. The shop is now saying that in order to retrieve the motorcycle, I need to pay the $2,200 bill. The motorcycle is in Mississippi and was stolen from Louisiana. I’m curious as to if this is legal and what actions I could take. Thank you in advance. | gjanr86 | gjanqho | 1,610,673,939 | 1,610,673,928 | 21 | 2 | You should talk with a lawyer in most states you may be able to file a police complaint against store for having stolen property in their shop and not returning it. Since it crossed state lines it is also probably a federal crime. https://fbiretired.com/skillset/interstate-transportation-stolen-property/ | Not a lawyer not legal advice. Have the police in Mississippi in the jurisdiction where the repair shop is located been made aware, did you file a police report in Louisiana when the bike was stolen. You need to be calling both of those agencies in the morning, but they may tell you its a civil issue, because the repair shop may have placed a mechanics lien on the bike. | 1 | 11 | 10.5 |
bwobew | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Putting up a fence in our new house yard in PA, neighbor has been claiming property is theirs, but it's not We moved into a new home in Pennsylvania and the home sits on what used to be two lots. When the previous owners surveyed/combined them, lot pins were put in. This is when they found out that the neighbors next to them (their good friends when they lived here) were on about 10' of their property (maintaining it with mulch, put an electrical box there to plug in lights/etc.). They were not bothered because most of the land was brush/wooded and they were good friends. They even planted an arbor with a vine on it that goes from one lot to another. ​ Fast forward to today, after 32 years of our previous home owners and the neighbors living next to each other, and we want to put up a 6' cedar privacy fence (which is allowed by our township) because we have small children, pets, and we like the privacy of a fence. I approached neighbors on all sides as a courtesy to say we are doing this, as opposed to just erecting a fence without notice, even though we are not putting it directly on the property lines (which is also allowed by the township). One neighbor was happy about it, the neighbor who is encroaching on our property was hostile and told me hates fences and I'm ruining the property. He also told me to put a 4' picket instead. I told him we did not start this conversation to be hostile, and we did not intend to put the fence on the area he's maintaining in his garden (even though we could and he told us that he's on our property, when we moved in). He told me 'Don't put it too far down by us'. He also said he was going to approach us to buy the land from us, but it's too expensive so they decided against it. So essentially, he's saying 'I was going to buy it from you, but I'm not, I'm just going to maintain it as my own without paying you and also attack you when you kindly approach me to say you're putting up a fence 10' into your own property'. ​ Legal question is: I want to tackle this issue early on in our life in this house since we are young and intent to stay here for our 30 years. If we are OK with him maintaining this area, would a solution be to get him to sign a rental agreement saying he does not own the land and that any injury that happens on the land (e.g. what if he gets electrocuted from his power box that he has on our land?) is not our responsibility? And should I call my home owners insurance and explain this and I assume they'll tell me to move the box? I know I am going to get a 'you are being too nice, put the fence on the lot lines' about this, but we really don't want to force this issue since we have a large lot anyway--but we don't want them to hostilely act like this is their land too and continue to treat us as if we are doing anything wrong at all. | epyy8oi | epzip0u | 1,559,654,069 | 1,559,666,441 | 142 | 196 | Clearly you have to balance property rights with having a pissed off neighbor. You do have the upper hand in this dispute. I think you have a nice idea of not pushing the property line to the edge. However, I think you legally need to get your neighbor to acknowledge in writing that the property is yours. If you do not, over time, he may gain a legal right to the land. I would suggest talking with an attorney about getting an agreement stating that he knows it is yours, and in exchange, you will not put the fence on the property line. If he is unwilling to sign, then you can put the fence on the line. | As someone who has had property line disputes with a neighbor, I recommend that you put the 6' fence on, or as close to, the property line on his side as possible. Reclaim the yard that is yours. No matter what happens from here on out, this will be a thorn in your side. If you let it go, he will still resent you because you are not the previous neighbor and there will always be tension because it's your 10' piece of property and not his. If you shut him out, he will also resent you and there will be continuing tension. The real difference in the end, is that if you don't put the fence up, you will, in the future, think less of yourself for not standing up for yourself and a deep resentment toward your neighbor. My neighbor and I are now civil to each other and live our own lives without conflict. What's right is right. | 0 | 12,372 | 1.380282 |
bwobew | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Putting up a fence in our new house yard in PA, neighbor has been claiming property is theirs, but it's not We moved into a new home in Pennsylvania and the home sits on what used to be two lots. When the previous owners surveyed/combined them, lot pins were put in. This is when they found out that the neighbors next to them (their good friends when they lived here) were on about 10' of their property (maintaining it with mulch, put an electrical box there to plug in lights/etc.). They were not bothered because most of the land was brush/wooded and they were good friends. They even planted an arbor with a vine on it that goes from one lot to another. ​ Fast forward to today, after 32 years of our previous home owners and the neighbors living next to each other, and we want to put up a 6' cedar privacy fence (which is allowed by our township) because we have small children, pets, and we like the privacy of a fence. I approached neighbors on all sides as a courtesy to say we are doing this, as opposed to just erecting a fence without notice, even though we are not putting it directly on the property lines (which is also allowed by the township). One neighbor was happy about it, the neighbor who is encroaching on our property was hostile and told me hates fences and I'm ruining the property. He also told me to put a 4' picket instead. I told him we did not start this conversation to be hostile, and we did not intend to put the fence on the area he's maintaining in his garden (even though we could and he told us that he's on our property, when we moved in). He told me 'Don't put it too far down by us'. He also said he was going to approach us to buy the land from us, but it's too expensive so they decided against it. So essentially, he's saying 'I was going to buy it from you, but I'm not, I'm just going to maintain it as my own without paying you and also attack you when you kindly approach me to say you're putting up a fence 10' into your own property'. ​ Legal question is: I want to tackle this issue early on in our life in this house since we are young and intent to stay here for our 30 years. If we are OK with him maintaining this area, would a solution be to get him to sign a rental agreement saying he does not own the land and that any injury that happens on the land (e.g. what if he gets electrocuted from his power box that he has on our land?) is not our responsibility? And should I call my home owners insurance and explain this and I assume they'll tell me to move the box? I know I am going to get a 'you are being too nice, put the fence on the lot lines' about this, but we really don't want to force this issue since we have a large lot anyway--but we don't want them to hostilely act like this is their land too and continue to treat us as if we are doing anything wrong at all. | epyyraz | epzip0u | 1,559,654,423 | 1,559,666,441 | 28 | 196 | You need to speak with an attorney who knows real estate. You need to establish that he cannot claim ownership via adverse possession. I don't believe the previous situation where the old owner allowed them to plant things would necessarily trigger it, but I do know that Pennsylvania does have an adverse possession law. So please go speak to a real estate attorney or else you may accidentally eventually end up with the property line moving and you losing some of your property. | As someone who has had property line disputes with a neighbor, I recommend that you put the 6' fence on, or as close to, the property line on his side as possible. Reclaim the yard that is yours. No matter what happens from here on out, this will be a thorn in your side. If you let it go, he will still resent you because you are not the previous neighbor and there will always be tension because it's your 10' piece of property and not his. If you shut him out, he will also resent you and there will be continuing tension. The real difference in the end, is that if you don't put the fence up, you will, in the future, think less of yourself for not standing up for yourself and a deep resentment toward your neighbor. My neighbor and I are now civil to each other and live our own lives without conflict. What's right is right. | 0 | 12,018 | 7 |
65io7q | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | [PA, suburbs] If a neighbor's chickens wander onto someone's property and get killed by their dogs, would the dogs have to be put down? Basically, the title. My parents live in a densely populated suburb and their neighbors, who only rent their property (idk if that matters), decided to keep a bunch of chickens/roosters as pets. They frequently get out, since the neighbors don't maintain their property or properly watch their chickens. If the chickens are on my parents' property and the dogs kill them, would the dogs need to be put down? Would my parents or the dogs get in trouble at all? | dgap782 | dgaqkuf | 1,492,266,635 | 1,492,268,742 | 27 | 131 | I am not a lawyer but I don't think a dog attacking a chicken really constitutes a dangerous animal, which is usually the only time a dog would be out down. Coming from a rural area where there are lots of cattle, any farmer is well within their right to shoot an animal, dog or otherwise, if it is attacking livestock on their own property. considering it is not on their property, the most you may be liable for is purchasing them a new chicken. | I am not a lawyer, but you may want to check if your suburb even allows chickens; many don't, and many that do don't allow roosters. Obviously if they're illegal chickens that doesn't give your dog carte blanche to feast, but you could perhaps preempt the issue (especially if the chickens are being neglected) by reporting your neighbors to the town. | 0 | 2,107 | 4.851852 |
65io7q | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | [PA, suburbs] If a neighbor's chickens wander onto someone's property and get killed by their dogs, would the dogs have to be put down? Basically, the title. My parents live in a densely populated suburb and their neighbors, who only rent their property (idk if that matters), decided to keep a bunch of chickens/roosters as pets. They frequently get out, since the neighbors don't maintain their property or properly watch their chickens. If the chickens are on my parents' property and the dogs kill them, would the dogs need to be put down? Would my parents or the dogs get in trouble at all? | dgaqkuf | dgakkok | 1,492,268,742 | 1,492,257,450 | 131 | 18 | I am not a lawyer, but you may want to check if your suburb even allows chickens; many don't, and many that do don't allow roosters. Obviously if they're illegal chickens that doesn't give your dog carte blanche to feast, but you could perhaps preempt the issue (especially if the chickens are being neglected) by reporting your neighbors to the town. | Post from earlier this week. https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/64yp81/us_ct_neighbors_chickens_invade_my_yard_worried/?ref=search_posts | 1 | 11,292 | 7.277778 |
65io7q | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | [PA, suburbs] If a neighbor's chickens wander onto someone's property and get killed by their dogs, would the dogs have to be put down? Basically, the title. My parents live in a densely populated suburb and their neighbors, who only rent their property (idk if that matters), decided to keep a bunch of chickens/roosters as pets. They frequently get out, since the neighbors don't maintain their property or properly watch their chickens. If the chickens are on my parents' property and the dogs kill them, would the dogs need to be put down? Would my parents or the dogs get in trouble at all? | dgap782 | dgax9aq | 1,492,266,635 | 1,492,278,051 | 27 | 78 | I am not a lawyer but I don't think a dog attacking a chicken really constitutes a dangerous animal, which is usually the only time a dog would be out down. Coming from a rural area where there are lots of cattle, any farmer is well within their right to shoot an animal, dog or otherwise, if it is attacking livestock on their own property. considering it is not on their property, the most you may be liable for is purchasing them a new chicken. | Nope. Here's the PA Dangerous Dog Law: http://www.agriculture.pa.gov/Protect/DogLaw/Dangerous%20Dogs/Pages/default.aspx Relevant portion for your situation: "A dangerous dog is one that has ... Killed or inflicted severe injury on a domestic animal, dog or cat without provocation while off the owner’s property." | 0 | 11,416 | 2.888889 |
65io7q | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | [PA, suburbs] If a neighbor's chickens wander onto someone's property and get killed by their dogs, would the dogs have to be put down? Basically, the title. My parents live in a densely populated suburb and their neighbors, who only rent their property (idk if that matters), decided to keep a bunch of chickens/roosters as pets. They frequently get out, since the neighbors don't maintain their property or properly watch their chickens. If the chickens are on my parents' property and the dogs kill them, would the dogs need to be put down? Would my parents or the dogs get in trouble at all? | dgakkok | dgax9aq | 1,492,257,450 | 1,492,278,051 | 18 | 78 | Post from earlier this week. https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/64yp81/us_ct_neighbors_chickens_invade_my_yard_worried/?ref=search_posts | Nope. Here's the PA Dangerous Dog Law: http://www.agriculture.pa.gov/Protect/DogLaw/Dangerous%20Dogs/Pages/default.aspx Relevant portion for your situation: "A dangerous dog is one that has ... Killed or inflicted severe injury on a domestic animal, dog or cat without provocation while off the owner’s property." | 0 | 20,601 | 4.333333 |
65io7q | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | [PA, suburbs] If a neighbor's chickens wander onto someone's property and get killed by their dogs, would the dogs have to be put down? Basically, the title. My parents live in a densely populated suburb and their neighbors, who only rent their property (idk if that matters), decided to keep a bunch of chickens/roosters as pets. They frequently get out, since the neighbors don't maintain their property or properly watch their chickens. If the chickens are on my parents' property and the dogs kill them, would the dogs need to be put down? Would my parents or the dogs get in trouble at all? | dgakkok | dgap782 | 1,492,257,450 | 1,492,266,635 | 18 | 27 | Post from earlier this week. https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/64yp81/us_ct_neighbors_chickens_invade_my_yard_worried/?ref=search_posts | I am not a lawyer but I don't think a dog attacking a chicken really constitutes a dangerous animal, which is usually the only time a dog would be out down. Coming from a rural area where there are lots of cattle, any farmer is well within their right to shoot an animal, dog or otherwise, if it is attacking livestock on their own property. considering it is not on their property, the most you may be liable for is purchasing them a new chicken. | 0 | 9,185 | 1.5 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5149j | ix51njp | 1,668,975,657 | 1,668,975,863 | 1,733 | 3,259 | She can kick rocks. She has no legal basis to demand you accommodate her wishes. Your agreement and legal obligations are spelled out in your lease, and your lease is a contract with the landlord, not with your neighbors. You’re entitled to live in your space and do normal things that cause reasonable amounts of noise from time to time. Your lease has absolutely nothing to do with your neighbor’s needs. Ignore her, or calmly tell her if she’s having trouble or needs accommodation she’s free to talk to the landlord and work it out. | This is her problem not yours. You, as a tenant, don’t need to accommodate anyone. Her landlord *may* need to accommodate her, but only reasonably. And guaranteeing no noise isn’t possible nor reasonable. Maybe the last tenants were forced to move out, maybe they weren’t. It’s doubtful she would know if or why their lease wasn’t renewed. I would ignore her. Take a short video of you assembling the furniture so you can show your landlord you were making a reasonable amount of noise at a reasonable time, if you’re even asked at all. | 0 | 206 | 1.880554 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5ifmc | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,982,690 | 1,425 | 865 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | Her blood pressure is her responsibility. If she can’t deal with normal occasional noise, she needs to move to the quiet countryside where she has no neighbors. You don’t need to tell her that as it will probably not land well, but keep in mind that her demands are unreasonable. | 1 | 4,273 | 1.647399 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5mv3e | ix5s8rk | 1,668,984,611 | 1,668,986,963 | 576 | 1,425 | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | 0 | 2,352 | 2.473958 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5g8yo | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,981,749 | 1,425 | 479 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | If your property manager is ignoring your calls, it is time to get the paper trail going. Detail her complaints, detail your response and directly ask for their intervention with the crazy lady next door. | 1 | 5,214 | 2.974948 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5e9o2 | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,980,900 | 1,425 | 404 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | Sounds like they were “forced to move out” because they couldn’t handle living next to a crazy person. Make a record every instance of harassment with the leasing office. | 1 | 6,063 | 3.527228 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5nxvr | ix5s8rk | 1,668,985,073 | 1,668,986,963 | 212 | 1,425 | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | 0 | 1,890 | 6.721698 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5gh28 | ix5s8rk | 1,668,981,846 | 1,668,986,963 | 179 | 1,425 | It's not illegal to make noise during regular daytime hours. I would put in some earplugs while I assembled my furniture, so you don't have to listen to her rudely banging on your wall. Don't answer the door, either... But DO record her doing this to you, so you have proof that she is the aggressor in this situation. I recommend a ring doorbell. | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | 0 | 5,117 | 7.960894 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5cf4v | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,980,127 | 1,425 | 153 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | She can say that you have to pay her rent too but that doesn't mean you have to. If she continues to harass, maybe notify the landlord or property manager. | 1 | 6,836 | 9.313725 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5li7f | ix5s8rk | 1,668,984,016 | 1,668,986,963 | 117 | 1,425 | Sounds like it’s her problem and the solution is finding a detached house. She’s going to be a Royal pain in the ass until you move out, and the LL is likely not going to do anything about it because they don’t want to deal with her either. Document and ignore. | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | 0 | 2,947 | 12.179487 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5dkfo | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,980,605 | 1,425 | 116 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | You have a few options. You can completely ignore her and live your life as you do, which sounds more than reasonable. You can tell her that you will abide by all applicable laws, and if she has legal concerns, she will need to cite the law that states you cannot make noise. At best, she will come up with something that does not apply to you. I am a somewhat confrontational person in situations like this, so this is the one I would choose, but it would not be the path for everybody. Complain to the landlord, but that probably won't go anywhere. In the same way landlord does not have to make you be quiet to accommodate her, landlord does not need to make her stop contacting you in order to accommodate you. I suggest simply ignoring her. | 1 | 6,358 | 12.284483 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5ckp6 | ix5s8rk | 1,668,980,192 | 1,668,986,963 | 106 | 1,425 | As long as you aren't being super loud outside reasonable hours she can get lost. The former tenants probably left because of her harassment not because she got them forced out. | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | 0 | 6,771 | 13.443396 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5hyr6 | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,982,486 | 1,425 | 73 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | you are in the clear. This is her problem, and rather than plaguing the other renters, it is up to her to take appropriate steps to deal with her noise sensitivity. Noise cancellation headphones and sound deadening sheets on the party walls can be used in situations where ambient noise is excessive. | 1 | 4,477 | 19.520548 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5qtm1 | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,986,344 | 1,425 | 66 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | I might suggest she get noise cancelling headphones and refer to a doctor for healthy ways to manage blood pressure. Otherwise you are not legally obligated to acquiesce to her medical condition in that way. Especially considering your noises are, from your description, normal human life noises. I would suggest recording her harassment, as well as the noises you make that she is complaining about. Always good to have evidence on your side, as she is the one harassing you. Signed, someone whose neighbors play loud bongos at random hours of the day and wishes they wouldn’t. | 1 | 619 | 21.590909 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5migo | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,984,456 | 1,425 | 51 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | The fact that you even accommodated her time enough for her to explain any of that is beyond what you should have done at all. Earplugs | 1 | 2,507 | 27.941176 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5mue4 | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,984,602 | 1,425 | 44 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | She’s a nut. You’re not obliged to do anything outside of what you signed on your lease. | 1 | 2,361 | 32.386364 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5s8rk | ix5m7qj | 1,668,986,963 | 1,668,984,326 | 1,425 | 44 | Document every time she harasses you. Wall banging, door knocking, in person etc etc. Take videos as well. Report her to the property management now and then everyone or near overtime she harasses you again. She's the problem that the landlords need to address. Oregon is a 1 party consent state when it comes to phone calls and recordings as long as you don't use it where someone can reasonably expect privacy and things like that. Record any in person conversations. You have time to turn the recorder app on before answering the door. Or just don't answer the door and do not engage with her completely. | Tell her to kick rocks. Outside of the quiet hours set in lease, you can make as much "reasonable" noise as you want (vacuuming, cooking, furniture assembly, tv/speaker volume, etc.). If/when she complains, let the landlord know she's harassing you (and create a paper trail via email even if it's just a follow up to verbal conversations). | 1 | 2,637 | 32.386364 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5g8yo | ix5ifmc | 1,668,981,749 | 1,668,982,690 | 479 | 865 | If your property manager is ignoring your calls, it is time to get the paper trail going. Detail her complaints, detail your response and directly ask for their intervention with the crazy lady next door. | Her blood pressure is her responsibility. If she can’t deal with normal occasional noise, she needs to move to the quiet countryside where she has no neighbors. You don’t need to tell her that as it will probably not land well, but keep in mind that her demands are unreasonable. | 0 | 941 | 1.805846 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5e9o2 | ix5ifmc | 1,668,980,900 | 1,668,982,690 | 404 | 865 | Sounds like they were “forced to move out” because they couldn’t handle living next to a crazy person. Make a record every instance of harassment with the leasing office. | Her blood pressure is her responsibility. If she can’t deal with normal occasional noise, she needs to move to the quiet countryside where she has no neighbors. You don’t need to tell her that as it will probably not land well, but keep in mind that her demands are unreasonable. | 0 | 1,790 | 2.141089 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5gh28 | ix5ifmc | 1,668,981,846 | 1,668,982,690 | 179 | 865 | It's not illegal to make noise during regular daytime hours. I would put in some earplugs while I assembled my furniture, so you don't have to listen to her rudely banging on your wall. Don't answer the door, either... But DO record her doing this to you, so you have proof that she is the aggressor in this situation. I recommend a ring doorbell. | Her blood pressure is her responsibility. If she can’t deal with normal occasional noise, she needs to move to the quiet countryside where she has no neighbors. You don’t need to tell her that as it will probably not land well, but keep in mind that her demands are unreasonable. | 0 | 844 | 4.832402 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5ifmc | ix5cf4v | 1,668,982,690 | 1,668,980,127 | 865 | 153 | Her blood pressure is her responsibility. If she can’t deal with normal occasional noise, she needs to move to the quiet countryside where she has no neighbors. You don’t need to tell her that as it will probably not land well, but keep in mind that her demands are unreasonable. | She can say that you have to pay her rent too but that doesn't mean you have to. If she continues to harass, maybe notify the landlord or property manager. | 1 | 2,563 | 5.653595 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5dkfo | ix5ifmc | 1,668,980,605 | 1,668,982,690 | 116 | 865 | You have a few options. You can completely ignore her and live your life as you do, which sounds more than reasonable. You can tell her that you will abide by all applicable laws, and if she has legal concerns, she will need to cite the law that states you cannot make noise. At best, she will come up with something that does not apply to you. I am a somewhat confrontational person in situations like this, so this is the one I would choose, but it would not be the path for everybody. Complain to the landlord, but that probably won't go anywhere. In the same way landlord does not have to make you be quiet to accommodate her, landlord does not need to make her stop contacting you in order to accommodate you. I suggest simply ignoring her. | Her blood pressure is her responsibility. If she can’t deal with normal occasional noise, she needs to move to the quiet countryside where she has no neighbors. You don’t need to tell her that as it will probably not land well, but keep in mind that her demands are unreasonable. | 0 | 2,085 | 7.456897 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5ckp6 | ix5ifmc | 1,668,980,192 | 1,668,982,690 | 106 | 865 | As long as you aren't being super loud outside reasonable hours she can get lost. The former tenants probably left because of her harassment not because she got them forced out. | Her blood pressure is her responsibility. If she can’t deal with normal occasional noise, she needs to move to the quiet countryside where she has no neighbors. You don’t need to tell her that as it will probably not land well, but keep in mind that her demands are unreasonable. | 0 | 2,498 | 8.160377 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5hyr6 | ix5ifmc | 1,668,982,486 | 1,668,982,690 | 73 | 865 | you are in the clear. This is her problem, and rather than plaguing the other renters, it is up to her to take appropriate steps to deal with her noise sensitivity. Noise cancellation headphones and sound deadening sheets on the party walls can be used in situations where ambient noise is excessive. | Her blood pressure is her responsibility. If she can’t deal with normal occasional noise, she needs to move to the quiet countryside where she has no neighbors. You don’t need to tell her that as it will probably not land well, but keep in mind that her demands are unreasonable. | 0 | 204 | 11.849315 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5g8yo | ix5mv3e | 1,668,981,749 | 1,668,984,611 | 479 | 576 | If your property manager is ignoring your calls, it is time to get the paper trail going. Detail her complaints, detail your response and directly ask for their intervention with the crazy lady next door. | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | 0 | 2,862 | 1.202505 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5e9o2 | ix5mv3e | 1,668,980,900 | 1,668,984,611 | 404 | 576 | Sounds like they were “forced to move out” because they couldn’t handle living next to a crazy person. Make a record every instance of harassment with the leasing office. | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | 0 | 3,711 | 1.425743 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5gh28 | ix5mv3e | 1,668,981,846 | 1,668,984,611 | 179 | 576 | It's not illegal to make noise during regular daytime hours. I would put in some earplugs while I assembled my furniture, so you don't have to listen to her rudely banging on your wall. Don't answer the door, either... But DO record her doing this to you, so you have proof that she is the aggressor in this situation. I recommend a ring doorbell. | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | 0 | 2,765 | 3.217877 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5cf4v | ix5mv3e | 1,668,980,127 | 1,668,984,611 | 153 | 576 | She can say that you have to pay her rent too but that doesn't mean you have to. If she continues to harass, maybe notify the landlord or property manager. | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | 0 | 4,484 | 3.764706 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5mv3e | ix5li7f | 1,668,984,611 | 1,668,984,016 | 576 | 117 | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | Sounds like it’s her problem and the solution is finding a detached house. She’s going to be a Royal pain in the ass until you move out, and the LL is likely not going to do anything about it because they don’t want to deal with her either. Document and ignore. | 1 | 595 | 4.923077 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5mv3e | ix5dkfo | 1,668,984,611 | 1,668,980,605 | 576 | 116 | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | You have a few options. You can completely ignore her and live your life as you do, which sounds more than reasonable. You can tell her that you will abide by all applicable laws, and if she has legal concerns, she will need to cite the law that states you cannot make noise. At best, she will come up with something that does not apply to you. I am a somewhat confrontational person in situations like this, so this is the one I would choose, but it would not be the path for everybody. Complain to the landlord, but that probably won't go anywhere. In the same way landlord does not have to make you be quiet to accommodate her, landlord does not need to make her stop contacting you in order to accommodate you. I suggest simply ignoring her. | 1 | 4,006 | 4.965517 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5ckp6 | ix5mv3e | 1,668,980,192 | 1,668,984,611 | 106 | 576 | As long as you aren't being super loud outside reasonable hours she can get lost. The former tenants probably left because of her harassment not because she got them forced out. | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | 0 | 4,419 | 5.433962 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5hyr6 | ix5mv3e | 1,668,982,486 | 1,668,984,611 | 73 | 576 | you are in the clear. This is her problem, and rather than plaguing the other renters, it is up to her to take appropriate steps to deal with her noise sensitivity. Noise cancellation headphones and sound deadening sheets on the party walls can be used in situations where ambient noise is excessive. | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | 0 | 2,125 | 7.890411 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5mv3e | ix5migo | 1,668,984,611 | 1,668,984,456 | 576 | 51 | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | The fact that you even accommodated her time enough for her to explain any of that is beyond what you should have done at all. Earplugs | 1 | 155 | 11.294118 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5mue4 | ix5mv3e | 1,668,984,602 | 1,668,984,611 | 44 | 576 | She’s a nut. You’re not obliged to do anything outside of what you signed on your lease. | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | 0 | 9 | 13.090909 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5mv3e | ix5m7qj | 1,668,984,611 | 1,668,984,326 | 576 | 44 | So her continuous banging on the wall does not raise her bp? She has no legal legs to stand on, cont with your furniture building. | Tell her to kick rocks. Outside of the quiet hours set in lease, you can make as much "reasonable" noise as you want (vacuuming, cooking, furniture assembly, tv/speaker volume, etc.). If/when she complains, let the landlord know she's harassing you (and create a paper trail via email even if it's just a follow up to verbal conversations). | 1 | 285 | 13.090909 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5g8yo | ix5e9o2 | 1,668,981,749 | 1,668,980,900 | 479 | 404 | If your property manager is ignoring your calls, it is time to get the paper trail going. Detail her complaints, detail your response and directly ask for their intervention with the crazy lady next door. | Sounds like they were “forced to move out” because they couldn’t handle living next to a crazy person. Make a record every instance of harassment with the leasing office. | 1 | 849 | 1.185644 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5cf4v | ix5g8yo | 1,668,980,127 | 1,668,981,749 | 153 | 479 | She can say that you have to pay her rent too but that doesn't mean you have to. If she continues to harass, maybe notify the landlord or property manager. | If your property manager is ignoring your calls, it is time to get the paper trail going. Detail her complaints, detail your response and directly ask for their intervention with the crazy lady next door. | 0 | 1,622 | 3.130719 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5dkfo | ix5g8yo | 1,668,980,605 | 1,668,981,749 | 116 | 479 | You have a few options. You can completely ignore her and live your life as you do, which sounds more than reasonable. You can tell her that you will abide by all applicable laws, and if she has legal concerns, she will need to cite the law that states you cannot make noise. At best, she will come up with something that does not apply to you. I am a somewhat confrontational person in situations like this, so this is the one I would choose, but it would not be the path for everybody. Complain to the landlord, but that probably won't go anywhere. In the same way landlord does not have to make you be quiet to accommodate her, landlord does not need to make her stop contacting you in order to accommodate you. I suggest simply ignoring her. | If your property manager is ignoring your calls, it is time to get the paper trail going. Detail her complaints, detail your response and directly ask for their intervention with the crazy lady next door. | 0 | 1,144 | 4.12931 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5ckp6 | ix5g8yo | 1,668,980,192 | 1,668,981,749 | 106 | 479 | As long as you aren't being super loud outside reasonable hours she can get lost. The former tenants probably left because of her harassment not because she got them forced out. | If your property manager is ignoring your calls, it is time to get the paper trail going. Detail her complaints, detail your response and directly ask for their intervention with the crazy lady next door. | 0 | 1,557 | 4.518868 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5e9o2 | ix5cf4v | 1,668,980,900 | 1,668,980,127 | 404 | 153 | Sounds like they were “forced to move out” because they couldn’t handle living next to a crazy person. Make a record every instance of harassment with the leasing office. | She can say that you have to pay her rent too but that doesn't mean you have to. If she continues to harass, maybe notify the landlord or property manager. | 1 | 773 | 2.640523 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5e9o2 | ix5dkfo | 1,668,980,900 | 1,668,980,605 | 404 | 116 | Sounds like they were “forced to move out” because they couldn’t handle living next to a crazy person. Make a record every instance of harassment with the leasing office. | You have a few options. You can completely ignore her and live your life as you do, which sounds more than reasonable. You can tell her that you will abide by all applicable laws, and if she has legal concerns, she will need to cite the law that states you cannot make noise. At best, she will come up with something that does not apply to you. I am a somewhat confrontational person in situations like this, so this is the one I would choose, but it would not be the path for everybody. Complain to the landlord, but that probably won't go anywhere. In the same way landlord does not have to make you be quiet to accommodate her, landlord does not need to make her stop contacting you in order to accommodate you. I suggest simply ignoring her. | 1 | 295 | 3.482759 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5e9o2 | ix5ckp6 | 1,668,980,900 | 1,668,980,192 | 404 | 106 | Sounds like they were “forced to move out” because they couldn’t handle living next to a crazy person. Make a record every instance of harassment with the leasing office. | As long as you aren't being super loud outside reasonable hours she can get lost. The former tenants probably left because of her harassment not because she got them forced out. | 1 | 708 | 3.811321 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5nxvr | ix5gh28 | 1,668,985,073 | 1,668,981,846 | 212 | 179 | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | It's not illegal to make noise during regular daytime hours. I would put in some earplugs while I assembled my furniture, so you don't have to listen to her rudely banging on your wall. Don't answer the door, either... But DO record her doing this to you, so you have proof that she is the aggressor in this situation. I recommend a ring doorbell. | 1 | 3,227 | 1.184358 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5nxvr | ix5cf4v | 1,668,985,073 | 1,668,980,127 | 212 | 153 | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | She can say that you have to pay her rent too but that doesn't mean you have to. If she continues to harass, maybe notify the landlord or property manager. | 1 | 4,946 | 1.385621 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5li7f | ix5nxvr | 1,668,984,016 | 1,668,985,073 | 117 | 212 | Sounds like it’s her problem and the solution is finding a detached house. She’s going to be a Royal pain in the ass until you move out, and the LL is likely not going to do anything about it because they don’t want to deal with her either. Document and ignore. | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | 0 | 1,057 | 1.811966 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5nxvr | ix5dkfo | 1,668,985,073 | 1,668,980,605 | 212 | 116 | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | You have a few options. You can completely ignore her and live your life as you do, which sounds more than reasonable. You can tell her that you will abide by all applicable laws, and if she has legal concerns, she will need to cite the law that states you cannot make noise. At best, she will come up with something that does not apply to you. I am a somewhat confrontational person in situations like this, so this is the one I would choose, but it would not be the path for everybody. Complain to the landlord, but that probably won't go anywhere. In the same way landlord does not have to make you be quiet to accommodate her, landlord does not need to make her stop contacting you in order to accommodate you. I suggest simply ignoring her. | 1 | 4,468 | 1.827586 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5nxvr | ix5ckp6 | 1,668,985,073 | 1,668,980,192 | 212 | 106 | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | As long as you aren't being super loud outside reasonable hours she can get lost. The former tenants probably left because of her harassment not because she got them forced out. | 1 | 4,881 | 2 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5nxvr | ix5hyr6 | 1,668,985,073 | 1,668,982,486 | 212 | 73 | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | you are in the clear. This is her problem, and rather than plaguing the other renters, it is up to her to take appropriate steps to deal with her noise sensitivity. Noise cancellation headphones and sound deadening sheets on the party walls can be used in situations where ambient noise is excessive. | 1 | 2,587 | 2.90411 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5migo | ix5nxvr | 1,668,984,456 | 1,668,985,073 | 51 | 212 | The fact that you even accommodated her time enough for her to explain any of that is beyond what you should have done at all. Earplugs | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | 0 | 617 | 4.156863 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5nxvr | ix5mue4 | 1,668,985,073 | 1,668,984,602 | 212 | 44 | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | She’s a nut. You’re not obliged to do anything outside of what you signed on your lease. | 1 | 471 | 4.818182 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5m7qj | ix5nxvr | 1,668,984,326 | 1,668,985,073 | 44 | 212 | Tell her to kick rocks. Outside of the quiet hours set in lease, you can make as much "reasonable" noise as you want (vacuuming, cooking, furniture assembly, tv/speaker volume, etc.). If/when she complains, let the landlord know she's harassing you (and create a paper trail via email even if it's just a follow up to verbal conversations). | You only need to be quiet during quiet hours, and I'm sure vacuuming and doing your dishes doesn't break the local noise ordinance. Sounds like you should recommend she gets noise cancelling headphones. | 0 | 747 | 4.818182 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5gh28 | ix5cf4v | 1,668,981,846 | 1,668,980,127 | 179 | 153 | It's not illegal to make noise during regular daytime hours. I would put in some earplugs while I assembled my furniture, so you don't have to listen to her rudely banging on your wall. Don't answer the door, either... But DO record her doing this to you, so you have proof that she is the aggressor in this situation. I recommend a ring doorbell. | She can say that you have to pay her rent too but that doesn't mean you have to. If she continues to harass, maybe notify the landlord or property manager. | 1 | 1,719 | 1.169935 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5gh28 | ix5dkfo | 1,668,981,846 | 1,668,980,605 | 179 | 116 | It's not illegal to make noise during regular daytime hours. I would put in some earplugs while I assembled my furniture, so you don't have to listen to her rudely banging on your wall. Don't answer the door, either... But DO record her doing this to you, so you have proof that she is the aggressor in this situation. I recommend a ring doorbell. | You have a few options. You can completely ignore her and live your life as you do, which sounds more than reasonable. You can tell her that you will abide by all applicable laws, and if she has legal concerns, she will need to cite the law that states you cannot make noise. At best, she will come up with something that does not apply to you. I am a somewhat confrontational person in situations like this, so this is the one I would choose, but it would not be the path for everybody. Complain to the landlord, but that probably won't go anywhere. In the same way landlord does not have to make you be quiet to accommodate her, landlord does not need to make her stop contacting you in order to accommodate you. I suggest simply ignoring her. | 1 | 1,241 | 1.543103 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5ckp6 | ix5gh28 | 1,668,980,192 | 1,668,981,846 | 106 | 179 | As long as you aren't being super loud outside reasonable hours she can get lost. The former tenants probably left because of her harassment not because she got them forced out. | It's not illegal to make noise during regular daytime hours. I would put in some earplugs while I assembled my furniture, so you don't have to listen to her rudely banging on your wall. Don't answer the door, either... But DO record her doing this to you, so you have proof that she is the aggressor in this situation. I recommend a ring doorbell. | 0 | 1,654 | 1.688679 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5li7f | ix5dkfo | 1,668,984,016 | 1,668,980,605 | 117 | 116 | Sounds like it’s her problem and the solution is finding a detached house. She’s going to be a Royal pain in the ass until you move out, and the LL is likely not going to do anything about it because they don’t want to deal with her either. Document and ignore. | You have a few options. You can completely ignore her and live your life as you do, which sounds more than reasonable. You can tell her that you will abide by all applicable laws, and if she has legal concerns, she will need to cite the law that states you cannot make noise. At best, she will come up with something that does not apply to you. I am a somewhat confrontational person in situations like this, so this is the one I would choose, but it would not be the path for everybody. Complain to the landlord, but that probably won't go anywhere. In the same way landlord does not have to make you be quiet to accommodate her, landlord does not need to make her stop contacting you in order to accommodate you. I suggest simply ignoring her. | 1 | 3,411 | 1.008621 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5li7f | ix5ckp6 | 1,668,984,016 | 1,668,980,192 | 117 | 106 | Sounds like it’s her problem and the solution is finding a detached house. She’s going to be a Royal pain in the ass until you move out, and the LL is likely not going to do anything about it because they don’t want to deal with her either. Document and ignore. | As long as you aren't being super loud outside reasonable hours she can get lost. The former tenants probably left because of her harassment not because she got them forced out. | 1 | 3,824 | 1.103774 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5hyr6 | ix5li7f | 1,668,982,486 | 1,668,984,016 | 73 | 117 | you are in the clear. This is her problem, and rather than plaguing the other renters, it is up to her to take appropriate steps to deal with her noise sensitivity. Noise cancellation headphones and sound deadening sheets on the party walls can be used in situations where ambient noise is excessive. | Sounds like it’s her problem and the solution is finding a detached house. She’s going to be a Royal pain in the ass until you move out, and the LL is likely not going to do anything about it because they don’t want to deal with her either. Document and ignore. | 0 | 1,530 | 1.60274 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5dkfo | ix5ckp6 | 1,668,980,605 | 1,668,980,192 | 116 | 106 | You have a few options. You can completely ignore her and live your life as you do, which sounds more than reasonable. You can tell her that you will abide by all applicable laws, and if she has legal concerns, she will need to cite the law that states you cannot make noise. At best, she will come up with something that does not apply to you. I am a somewhat confrontational person in situations like this, so this is the one I would choose, but it would not be the path for everybody. Complain to the landlord, but that probably won't go anywhere. In the same way landlord does not have to make you be quiet to accommodate her, landlord does not need to make her stop contacting you in order to accommodate you. I suggest simply ignoring her. | As long as you aren't being super loud outside reasonable hours she can get lost. The former tenants probably left because of her harassment not because she got them forced out. | 1 | 413 | 1.09434 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5migo | ix5qtm1 | 1,668,984,456 | 1,668,986,344 | 51 | 66 | The fact that you even accommodated her time enough for her to explain any of that is beyond what you should have done at all. Earplugs | I might suggest she get noise cancelling headphones and refer to a doctor for healthy ways to manage blood pressure. Otherwise you are not legally obligated to acquiesce to her medical condition in that way. Especially considering your noises are, from your description, normal human life noises. I would suggest recording her harassment, as well as the noises you make that she is complaining about. Always good to have evidence on your side, as she is the one harassing you. Signed, someone whose neighbors play loud bongos at random hours of the day and wishes they wouldn’t. | 0 | 1,888 | 1.294118 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5qtm1 | ix5mue4 | 1,668,986,344 | 1,668,984,602 | 66 | 44 | I might suggest she get noise cancelling headphones and refer to a doctor for healthy ways to manage blood pressure. Otherwise you are not legally obligated to acquiesce to her medical condition in that way. Especially considering your noises are, from your description, normal human life noises. I would suggest recording her harassment, as well as the noises you make that she is complaining about. Always good to have evidence on your side, as she is the one harassing you. Signed, someone whose neighbors play loud bongos at random hours of the day and wishes they wouldn’t. | She’s a nut. You’re not obliged to do anything outside of what you signed on your lease. | 1 | 1,742 | 1.5 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5qtm1 | ix5m7qj | 1,668,986,344 | 1,668,984,326 | 66 | 44 | I might suggest she get noise cancelling headphones and refer to a doctor for healthy ways to manage blood pressure. Otherwise you are not legally obligated to acquiesce to her medical condition in that way. Especially considering your noises are, from your description, normal human life noises. I would suggest recording her harassment, as well as the noises you make that she is complaining about. Always good to have evidence on your side, as she is the one harassing you. Signed, someone whose neighbors play loud bongos at random hours of the day and wishes they wouldn’t. | Tell her to kick rocks. Outside of the quiet hours set in lease, you can make as much "reasonable" noise as you want (vacuuming, cooking, furniture assembly, tv/speaker volume, etc.). If/when she complains, let the landlord know she's harassing you (and create a paper trail via email even if it's just a follow up to verbal conversations). | 1 | 2,018 | 1.5 |
z0e14f | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor claiming I’m not legally allowed to have furniture assembled because the noise affects her medical condition. I just moved into a new apartment building in Oregon. I’m having some furniture assembled and will probably have to do so again 2-3 more times for short periods of 2-4 hours over the next month. My next door neighbor bangs on the wall nonstop anytime I make any kind of noise including running the vacuum or doing dishes. I work or am out of the house 7AM-7PM on weekdays so this is all occurring only on the weekends during daylight hours. She claims that the noise raises her blood pressure and “threatens her life” and also she’s Muslim (not sure how that is related but she mentioned it ten times) so I’m not allowed to make any noise and that the property management company was supposed to tell me when I moved in that I need to accommodate her. I’m a quiet person, I live alone, I almost never have guests, I work normal hours, and I don’t even own a television so with the possible exception of the furniture assembly I don’t see how she can claim I legally am not allowed to make noise in my own apartment. She said the last tenants were forced to move out because they couldn’t accommodate her medical condition. There’s nothing in my lease about noise except for the general quiet hours of 11-7 and the property company hasn’t responded to me. I’m just wondering if there’s any legal claim that I’m not allowed to occasionally make noise due to someone else’s medical condition or if I can just tell her to kick rocks. | ix5m7qj | ix5migo | 1,668,984,326 | 1,668,984,456 | 44 | 51 | Tell her to kick rocks. Outside of the quiet hours set in lease, you can make as much "reasonable" noise as you want (vacuuming, cooking, furniture assembly, tv/speaker volume, etc.). If/when she complains, let the landlord know she's harassing you (and create a paper trail via email even if it's just a follow up to verbal conversations). | The fact that you even accommodated her time enough for her to explain any of that is beyond what you should have done at all. Earplugs | 0 | 130 | 1.159091 |
ym0xha | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Is it necessary to go to court for legal custody, or should I be fine? [NC] I have 2 daughter's (6 and 7) whose birthdays were in July and September, respectively. I have been in their lives since prenatal appointments. Their mother left me for another man in July 2020. Since she left, her communication with the girls has been very spotty (months in between), and I have been 100% the only provider for them, and they've been in my physical custody. We saw her in February of last year, and then didn't hear from her until May 12th of the same year. While she was visiting during that day, I was exhausted and passed out from work. When I woke up, she was gone, and had taken the kids. She took them to live in a motel room with her boyfriend (random man to my kids and myself) and his 3 sons, who I believe ages ranged from like 6-12 at the time. She had them from May 13th, until I found her and took them back on August 26th of the same year. During the time she was gone, she wouldn't let me speak to them, and I missed my youngest daughter's birthday for the first time. The 2 times I saw her during that time frame, she tried to blackmail me I to signing joint custody papers. When. I got my kids back, they told me that their mom and her boyfriend had been spewing venom to them about me, and that the boyfriend would hit them with a belt. When I confronted her via phone, she said "Don't you think I know that? Why do you think I let you have them?". October 11th of last year, she texted me saying "I have to go away for a while". I didn't hear from her again until January on this year, and she spoke to them on the phone for all of about 5 minutes (If I'm being generous). Since then, we haven't heard from her. No birthday calla, nothing. I keep tabs on her via social media, so I know she is alive and well, and has a car. Her not seeing my kids is 100% her decision. I originally filed for full custody during the period where she took my kids, but I didn't follow through once I got them back. I still don't want to follow through yet, because I feel like she'd try to contest it just to spite me, and I don't want to wake the sleeping bear. Is it vital for me to file for custody, or am I fine by letting her go even longer without contact, to ruin her chances in the event she tries anything? I don't talk to my kids about her, as I don't see the point, but they express to me that they don't even so much as want to talk to her on the phone. Even for their birthdays. I also don't plan on ever letting her around them unsupervised, so she can't take them again. What is it looking like for me? | iv1jvm6 | iv1k8a9 | 1,667,578,562 | 1,667,578,702 | 86 | 111 | I am an attorney, but not your attorney, and I cannot scream it from the rooftops loud enough that you absolutely need an attorney and you should hire the best one you can afford because this is one of the most important things you will ever do in your life. | Not state specific. Get a laywer asap. Get them in therapy with a.professional who can testify to their admissions of physical abuse. Not to mention I'm sure these kids are dealing with major abandonment issues. Save all text convos documenting her acknowledgement of them being beat, of her abandoning them for months on end, etc. You want to ask for joint legal custody, she will get it anyway and it makes you look reasonable. Joint legal only pertains to decision making and info regarding medical, school and major life decisions. Has nothing to do with physical. Ask for full residential custody with un or supervised visitation for her. Which one you get is dependent on your evidence. You are not avoiding poking the bear by not addressing this. You are keeping your kids in a volatile and unstable situation with an unstable person the longer you wait. Not to mention undermining their sense of security. Short of you or someone else going to jail you physically cannot stop her from taking the kids again without an order. And that would destroy your case and virtually guarantee she could file and get custody. | 0 | 140 | 1.290698 |
ym0xha | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Is it necessary to go to court for legal custody, or should I be fine? [NC] I have 2 daughter's (6 and 7) whose birthdays were in July and September, respectively. I have been in their lives since prenatal appointments. Their mother left me for another man in July 2020. Since she left, her communication with the girls has been very spotty (months in between), and I have been 100% the only provider for them, and they've been in my physical custody. We saw her in February of last year, and then didn't hear from her until May 12th of the same year. While she was visiting during that day, I was exhausted and passed out from work. When I woke up, she was gone, and had taken the kids. She took them to live in a motel room with her boyfriend (random man to my kids and myself) and his 3 sons, who I believe ages ranged from like 6-12 at the time. She had them from May 13th, until I found her and took them back on August 26th of the same year. During the time she was gone, she wouldn't let me speak to them, and I missed my youngest daughter's birthday for the first time. The 2 times I saw her during that time frame, she tried to blackmail me I to signing joint custody papers. When. I got my kids back, they told me that their mom and her boyfriend had been spewing venom to them about me, and that the boyfriend would hit them with a belt. When I confronted her via phone, she said "Don't you think I know that? Why do you think I let you have them?". October 11th of last year, she texted me saying "I have to go away for a while". I didn't hear from her again until January on this year, and she spoke to them on the phone for all of about 5 minutes (If I'm being generous). Since then, we haven't heard from her. No birthday calla, nothing. I keep tabs on her via social media, so I know she is alive and well, and has a car. Her not seeing my kids is 100% her decision. I originally filed for full custody during the period where she took my kids, but I didn't follow through once I got them back. I still don't want to follow through yet, because I feel like she'd try to contest it just to spite me, and I don't want to wake the sleeping bear. Is it vital for me to file for custody, or am I fine by letting her go even longer without contact, to ruin her chances in the event she tries anything? I don't talk to my kids about her, as I don't see the point, but they express to me that they don't even so much as want to talk to her on the phone. Even for their birthdays. I also don't plan on ever letting her around them unsupervised, so she can't take them again. What is it looking like for me? | iv1k8a9 | iv1dkz1 | 1,667,578,702 | 1,667,576,107 | 111 | 8 | Not state specific. Get a laywer asap. Get them in therapy with a.professional who can testify to their admissions of physical abuse. Not to mention I'm sure these kids are dealing with major abandonment issues. Save all text convos documenting her acknowledgement of them being beat, of her abandoning them for months on end, etc. You want to ask for joint legal custody, she will get it anyway and it makes you look reasonable. Joint legal only pertains to decision making and info regarding medical, school and major life decisions. Has nothing to do with physical. Ask for full residential custody with un or supervised visitation for her. Which one you get is dependent on your evidence. You are not avoiding poking the bear by not addressing this. You are keeping your kids in a volatile and unstable situation with an unstable person the longer you wait. Not to mention undermining their sense of security. Short of you or someone else going to jail you physically cannot stop her from taking the kids again without an order. And that would destroy your case and virtually guarantee she could file and get custody. | Yes you need a court order in place. I totally understand the 'let the bear sleep', but you are risking something much worse happening just for temporary peace. She already did something terrible. Do not assume it won't happen again; assume it will. Believe me I know it's easier to just let it be but you will absolutely regret it. You know it and that's why you're asking. Protect your kids. Do it now while 'the bear sleeps' rather than wait until you are in a desperate situation because the bear woke up and is mauling your ass. Get all your ducks in a row so you're protected if she retaliates, as in seek a temp order so she can't run off with them upon hearing you started legal proceedings. | 1 | 2,595 | 13.875 |
ym0xha | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Is it necessary to go to court for legal custody, or should I be fine? [NC] I have 2 daughter's (6 and 7) whose birthdays were in July and September, respectively. I have been in their lives since prenatal appointments. Their mother left me for another man in July 2020. Since she left, her communication with the girls has been very spotty (months in between), and I have been 100% the only provider for them, and they've been in my physical custody. We saw her in February of last year, and then didn't hear from her until May 12th of the same year. While she was visiting during that day, I was exhausted and passed out from work. When I woke up, she was gone, and had taken the kids. She took them to live in a motel room with her boyfriend (random man to my kids and myself) and his 3 sons, who I believe ages ranged from like 6-12 at the time. She had them from May 13th, until I found her and took them back on August 26th of the same year. During the time she was gone, she wouldn't let me speak to them, and I missed my youngest daughter's birthday for the first time. The 2 times I saw her during that time frame, she tried to blackmail me I to signing joint custody papers. When. I got my kids back, they told me that their mom and her boyfriend had been spewing venom to them about me, and that the boyfriend would hit them with a belt. When I confronted her via phone, she said "Don't you think I know that? Why do you think I let you have them?". October 11th of last year, she texted me saying "I have to go away for a while". I didn't hear from her again until January on this year, and she spoke to them on the phone for all of about 5 minutes (If I'm being generous). Since then, we haven't heard from her. No birthday calla, nothing. I keep tabs on her via social media, so I know she is alive and well, and has a car. Her not seeing my kids is 100% her decision. I originally filed for full custody during the period where she took my kids, but I didn't follow through once I got them back. I still don't want to follow through yet, because I feel like she'd try to contest it just to spite me, and I don't want to wake the sleeping bear. Is it vital for me to file for custody, or am I fine by letting her go even longer without contact, to ruin her chances in the event she tries anything? I don't talk to my kids about her, as I don't see the point, but they express to me that they don't even so much as want to talk to her on the phone. Even for their birthdays. I also don't plan on ever letting her around them unsupervised, so she can't take them again. What is it looking like for me? | iv1jvm6 | iv1zwbd | 1,667,578,562 | 1,667,584,715 | 86 | 91 | I am an attorney, but not your attorney, and I cannot scream it from the rooftops loud enough that you absolutely need an attorney and you should hire the best one you can afford because this is one of the most important things you will ever do in your life. | u/illustrious_you_2362 you HAVE to get a custody order in place. You say that you would stop her from taking the kids again but you can’t. You could try physically but then the police would be called, they would either arrest you (which means you will have hours where you can’t get legal proceedings started or have someone find out where she is) or the cops would allow their mother to take them. It’s not true that men don’t get custody when they pursue it (it’s just that a lot don’t) BUT many law enforcement might just default to allowing a mother to take her daughters, especially at such a young age. Get it in writing that the bf is abusive. Even if she doesn’t explicitly say “he beat them” if YOU say “remember how you brought them back because BF was hitting them with belts?” And she doesn’t refute it, that’s a step in the right direction. Because most people would deny it if it didn’t happen. Also, filing and going after custody FIRST is a mark in your favor. Especially because you’re a man (again, sad but true, statistically men don’t pursue custody as often as women). Don’t make the mistake of thinking that you’re fine and because they’re with you right now, you have any legal standing. Under a custody order, what your ex did before (taking them and disappearing) is kidnapping. And the police will find your ex and bring your kids back. With no custody order it’s just a mother taking her children, and there is nothing that police (or you) can do about it, unless she’s breaking the law in some way. GET A CUSTODY ORDER. Trust me. NO ONE has ever said “Damn, I really regret the law enforcing my rights as a parent” but there has been thousands upon thousands of parents that have regretted not having a custody arrangement in place. Don’t be one of the people that regrets it. Even if you end up with 50/50. It doesn’t sound like your ex is at a very stable or reliable point in her life. Every time she misses a weekend, every promise she breaks, every holiday she skips, it’s a mark in your favor to gaining full custody. Spend the money now. It may seem like a lot. But it’s a whole lot more hiring private detectives to find your kids and to avoid it in the future, you’ll have to spend the money to get custody anyway. | 0 | 6,153 | 1.05814 |
ym0xha | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Is it necessary to go to court for legal custody, or should I be fine? [NC] I have 2 daughter's (6 and 7) whose birthdays were in July and September, respectively. I have been in their lives since prenatal appointments. Their mother left me for another man in July 2020. Since she left, her communication with the girls has been very spotty (months in between), and I have been 100% the only provider for them, and they've been in my physical custody. We saw her in February of last year, and then didn't hear from her until May 12th of the same year. While she was visiting during that day, I was exhausted and passed out from work. When I woke up, she was gone, and had taken the kids. She took them to live in a motel room with her boyfriend (random man to my kids and myself) and his 3 sons, who I believe ages ranged from like 6-12 at the time. She had them from May 13th, until I found her and took them back on August 26th of the same year. During the time she was gone, she wouldn't let me speak to them, and I missed my youngest daughter's birthday for the first time. The 2 times I saw her during that time frame, she tried to blackmail me I to signing joint custody papers. When. I got my kids back, they told me that their mom and her boyfriend had been spewing venom to them about me, and that the boyfriend would hit them with a belt. When I confronted her via phone, she said "Don't you think I know that? Why do you think I let you have them?". October 11th of last year, she texted me saying "I have to go away for a while". I didn't hear from her again until January on this year, and she spoke to them on the phone for all of about 5 minutes (If I'm being generous). Since then, we haven't heard from her. No birthday calla, nothing. I keep tabs on her via social media, so I know she is alive and well, and has a car. Her not seeing my kids is 100% her decision. I originally filed for full custody during the period where she took my kids, but I didn't follow through once I got them back. I still don't want to follow through yet, because I feel like she'd try to contest it just to spite me, and I don't want to wake the sleeping bear. Is it vital for me to file for custody, or am I fine by letting her go even longer without contact, to ruin her chances in the event she tries anything? I don't talk to my kids about her, as I don't see the point, but they express to me that they don't even so much as want to talk to her on the phone. Even for their birthdays. I also don't plan on ever letting her around them unsupervised, so she can't take them again. What is it looking like for me? | iv1m6me | iv1zwbd | 1,667,579,469 | 1,667,584,715 | 38 | 91 | You HAVE to get a custody agreement, spend the cash otherwise she can come and take them whenever she wants. | u/illustrious_you_2362 you HAVE to get a custody order in place. You say that you would stop her from taking the kids again but you can’t. You could try physically but then the police would be called, they would either arrest you (which means you will have hours where you can’t get legal proceedings started or have someone find out where she is) or the cops would allow their mother to take them. It’s not true that men don’t get custody when they pursue it (it’s just that a lot don’t) BUT many law enforcement might just default to allowing a mother to take her daughters, especially at such a young age. Get it in writing that the bf is abusive. Even if she doesn’t explicitly say “he beat them” if YOU say “remember how you brought them back because BF was hitting them with belts?” And she doesn’t refute it, that’s a step in the right direction. Because most people would deny it if it didn’t happen. Also, filing and going after custody FIRST is a mark in your favor. Especially because you’re a man (again, sad but true, statistically men don’t pursue custody as often as women). Don’t make the mistake of thinking that you’re fine and because they’re with you right now, you have any legal standing. Under a custody order, what your ex did before (taking them and disappearing) is kidnapping. And the police will find your ex and bring your kids back. With no custody order it’s just a mother taking her children, and there is nothing that police (or you) can do about it, unless she’s breaking the law in some way. GET A CUSTODY ORDER. Trust me. NO ONE has ever said “Damn, I really regret the law enforcing my rights as a parent” but there has been thousands upon thousands of parents that have regretted not having a custody arrangement in place. Don’t be one of the people that regrets it. Even if you end up with 50/50. It doesn’t sound like your ex is at a very stable or reliable point in her life. Every time she misses a weekend, every promise she breaks, every holiday she skips, it’s a mark in your favor to gaining full custody. Spend the money now. It may seem like a lot. But it’s a whole lot more hiring private detectives to find your kids and to avoid it in the future, you’ll have to spend the money to get custody anyway. | 0 | 5,246 | 2.394737 |
ym0xha | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Is it necessary to go to court for legal custody, or should I be fine? [NC] I have 2 daughter's (6 and 7) whose birthdays were in July and September, respectively. I have been in their lives since prenatal appointments. Their mother left me for another man in July 2020. Since she left, her communication with the girls has been very spotty (months in between), and I have been 100% the only provider for them, and they've been in my physical custody. We saw her in February of last year, and then didn't hear from her until May 12th of the same year. While she was visiting during that day, I was exhausted and passed out from work. When I woke up, she was gone, and had taken the kids. She took them to live in a motel room with her boyfriend (random man to my kids and myself) and his 3 sons, who I believe ages ranged from like 6-12 at the time. She had them from May 13th, until I found her and took them back on August 26th of the same year. During the time she was gone, she wouldn't let me speak to them, and I missed my youngest daughter's birthday for the first time. The 2 times I saw her during that time frame, she tried to blackmail me I to signing joint custody papers. When. I got my kids back, they told me that their mom and her boyfriend had been spewing venom to them about me, and that the boyfriend would hit them with a belt. When I confronted her via phone, she said "Don't you think I know that? Why do you think I let you have them?". October 11th of last year, she texted me saying "I have to go away for a while". I didn't hear from her again until January on this year, and she spoke to them on the phone for all of about 5 minutes (If I'm being generous). Since then, we haven't heard from her. No birthday calla, nothing. I keep tabs on her via social media, so I know she is alive and well, and has a car. Her not seeing my kids is 100% her decision. I originally filed for full custody during the period where she took my kids, but I didn't follow through once I got them back. I still don't want to follow through yet, because I feel like she'd try to contest it just to spite me, and I don't want to wake the sleeping bear. Is it vital for me to file for custody, or am I fine by letting her go even longer without contact, to ruin her chances in the event she tries anything? I don't talk to my kids about her, as I don't see the point, but they express to me that they don't even so much as want to talk to her on the phone. Even for their birthdays. I also don't plan on ever letting her around them unsupervised, so she can't take them again. What is it looking like for me? | iv1uvfl | iv1zwbd | 1,667,582,815 | 1,667,584,715 | 19 | 91 | **GET THEE A LAWYER** If you never, ever, ever want to have any questions about custody and your children - go to court! Work with a family law attorney to complete all the required paperwork. Create a log of all contact that you can remember (dates, times, length). Work with the lawyer to see how to memorialize your kids' recollections of how they were treated by their mother and her boyfriend. Do this sooner rather than later. | u/illustrious_you_2362 you HAVE to get a custody order in place. You say that you would stop her from taking the kids again but you can’t. You could try physically but then the police would be called, they would either arrest you (which means you will have hours where you can’t get legal proceedings started or have someone find out where she is) or the cops would allow their mother to take them. It’s not true that men don’t get custody when they pursue it (it’s just that a lot don’t) BUT many law enforcement might just default to allowing a mother to take her daughters, especially at such a young age. Get it in writing that the bf is abusive. Even if she doesn’t explicitly say “he beat them” if YOU say “remember how you brought them back because BF was hitting them with belts?” And she doesn’t refute it, that’s a step in the right direction. Because most people would deny it if it didn’t happen. Also, filing and going after custody FIRST is a mark in your favor. Especially because you’re a man (again, sad but true, statistically men don’t pursue custody as often as women). Don’t make the mistake of thinking that you’re fine and because they’re with you right now, you have any legal standing. Under a custody order, what your ex did before (taking them and disappearing) is kidnapping. And the police will find your ex and bring your kids back. With no custody order it’s just a mother taking her children, and there is nothing that police (or you) can do about it, unless she’s breaking the law in some way. GET A CUSTODY ORDER. Trust me. NO ONE has ever said “Damn, I really regret the law enforcing my rights as a parent” but there has been thousands upon thousands of parents that have regretted not having a custody arrangement in place. Don’t be one of the people that regrets it. Even if you end up with 50/50. It doesn’t sound like your ex is at a very stable or reliable point in her life. Every time she misses a weekend, every promise she breaks, every holiday she skips, it’s a mark in your favor to gaining full custody. Spend the money now. It may seem like a lot. But it’s a whole lot more hiring private detectives to find your kids and to avoid it in the future, you’ll have to spend the money to get custody anyway. | 0 | 1,900 | 4.789474 |
ym0xha | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Is it necessary to go to court for legal custody, or should I be fine? [NC] I have 2 daughter's (6 and 7) whose birthdays were in July and September, respectively. I have been in their lives since prenatal appointments. Their mother left me for another man in July 2020. Since she left, her communication with the girls has been very spotty (months in between), and I have been 100% the only provider for them, and they've been in my physical custody. We saw her in February of last year, and then didn't hear from her until May 12th of the same year. While she was visiting during that day, I was exhausted and passed out from work. When I woke up, she was gone, and had taken the kids. She took them to live in a motel room with her boyfriend (random man to my kids and myself) and his 3 sons, who I believe ages ranged from like 6-12 at the time. She had them from May 13th, until I found her and took them back on August 26th of the same year. During the time she was gone, she wouldn't let me speak to them, and I missed my youngest daughter's birthday for the first time. The 2 times I saw her during that time frame, she tried to blackmail me I to signing joint custody papers. When. I got my kids back, they told me that their mom and her boyfriend had been spewing venom to them about me, and that the boyfriend would hit them with a belt. When I confronted her via phone, she said "Don't you think I know that? Why do you think I let you have them?". October 11th of last year, she texted me saying "I have to go away for a while". I didn't hear from her again until January on this year, and she spoke to them on the phone for all of about 5 minutes (If I'm being generous). Since then, we haven't heard from her. No birthday calla, nothing. I keep tabs on her via social media, so I know she is alive and well, and has a car. Her not seeing my kids is 100% her decision. I originally filed for full custody during the period where she took my kids, but I didn't follow through once I got them back. I still don't want to follow through yet, because I feel like she'd try to contest it just to spite me, and I don't want to wake the sleeping bear. Is it vital for me to file for custody, or am I fine by letting her go even longer without contact, to ruin her chances in the event she tries anything? I don't talk to my kids about her, as I don't see the point, but they express to me that they don't even so much as want to talk to her on the phone. Even for their birthdays. I also don't plan on ever letting her around them unsupervised, so she can't take them again. What is it looking like for me? | iv1dkz1 | iv1zwbd | 1,667,576,107 | 1,667,584,715 | 8 | 91 | Yes you need a court order in place. I totally understand the 'let the bear sleep', but you are risking something much worse happening just for temporary peace. She already did something terrible. Do not assume it won't happen again; assume it will. Believe me I know it's easier to just let it be but you will absolutely regret it. You know it and that's why you're asking. Protect your kids. Do it now while 'the bear sleeps' rather than wait until you are in a desperate situation because the bear woke up and is mauling your ass. Get all your ducks in a row so you're protected if she retaliates, as in seek a temp order so she can't run off with them upon hearing you started legal proceedings. | u/illustrious_you_2362 you HAVE to get a custody order in place. You say that you would stop her from taking the kids again but you can’t. You could try physically but then the police would be called, they would either arrest you (which means you will have hours where you can’t get legal proceedings started or have someone find out where she is) or the cops would allow their mother to take them. It’s not true that men don’t get custody when they pursue it (it’s just that a lot don’t) BUT many law enforcement might just default to allowing a mother to take her daughters, especially at such a young age. Get it in writing that the bf is abusive. Even if she doesn’t explicitly say “he beat them” if YOU say “remember how you brought them back because BF was hitting them with belts?” And she doesn’t refute it, that’s a step in the right direction. Because most people would deny it if it didn’t happen. Also, filing and going after custody FIRST is a mark in your favor. Especially because you’re a man (again, sad but true, statistically men don’t pursue custody as often as women). Don’t make the mistake of thinking that you’re fine and because they’re with you right now, you have any legal standing. Under a custody order, what your ex did before (taking them and disappearing) is kidnapping. And the police will find your ex and bring your kids back. With no custody order it’s just a mother taking her children, and there is nothing that police (or you) can do about it, unless she’s breaking the law in some way. GET A CUSTODY ORDER. Trust me. NO ONE has ever said “Damn, I really regret the law enforcing my rights as a parent” but there has been thousands upon thousands of parents that have regretted not having a custody arrangement in place. Don’t be one of the people that regrets it. Even if you end up with 50/50. It doesn’t sound like your ex is at a very stable or reliable point in her life. Every time she misses a weekend, every promise she breaks, every holiday she skips, it’s a mark in your favor to gaining full custody. Spend the money now. It may seem like a lot. But it’s a whole lot more hiring private detectives to find your kids and to avoid it in the future, you’ll have to spend the money to get custody anyway. | 0 | 8,608 | 11.375 |
ym0xha | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Is it necessary to go to court for legal custody, or should I be fine? [NC] I have 2 daughter's (6 and 7) whose birthdays were in July and September, respectively. I have been in their lives since prenatal appointments. Their mother left me for another man in July 2020. Since she left, her communication with the girls has been very spotty (months in between), and I have been 100% the only provider for them, and they've been in my physical custody. We saw her in February of last year, and then didn't hear from her until May 12th of the same year. While she was visiting during that day, I was exhausted and passed out from work. When I woke up, she was gone, and had taken the kids. She took them to live in a motel room with her boyfriend (random man to my kids and myself) and his 3 sons, who I believe ages ranged from like 6-12 at the time. She had them from May 13th, until I found her and took them back on August 26th of the same year. During the time she was gone, she wouldn't let me speak to them, and I missed my youngest daughter's birthday for the first time. The 2 times I saw her during that time frame, she tried to blackmail me I to signing joint custody papers. When. I got my kids back, they told me that their mom and her boyfriend had been spewing venom to them about me, and that the boyfriend would hit them with a belt. When I confronted her via phone, she said "Don't you think I know that? Why do you think I let you have them?". October 11th of last year, she texted me saying "I have to go away for a while". I didn't hear from her again until January on this year, and she spoke to them on the phone for all of about 5 minutes (If I'm being generous). Since then, we haven't heard from her. No birthday calla, nothing. I keep tabs on her via social media, so I know she is alive and well, and has a car. Her not seeing my kids is 100% her decision. I originally filed for full custody during the period where she took my kids, but I didn't follow through once I got them back. I still don't want to follow through yet, because I feel like she'd try to contest it just to spite me, and I don't want to wake the sleeping bear. Is it vital for me to file for custody, or am I fine by letting her go even longer without contact, to ruin her chances in the event she tries anything? I don't talk to my kids about her, as I don't see the point, but they express to me that they don't even so much as want to talk to her on the phone. Even for their birthdays. I also don't plan on ever letting her around them unsupervised, so she can't take them again. What is it looking like for me? | iv1y76z | iv1zwbd | 1,667,584,066 | 1,667,584,715 | 10 | 91 | I can’t see all the comments but were you married when the children were born? Are you on the birth certificate? If not then you legally have no rights in the US until the court says so. You don’t need a lawyer to file for paternity - that’s a form you file at the courthouse for like $150 and the court will order the test. After you prove paternity you can file for custody. | u/illustrious_you_2362 you HAVE to get a custody order in place. You say that you would stop her from taking the kids again but you can’t. You could try physically but then the police would be called, they would either arrest you (which means you will have hours where you can’t get legal proceedings started or have someone find out where she is) or the cops would allow their mother to take them. It’s not true that men don’t get custody when they pursue it (it’s just that a lot don’t) BUT many law enforcement might just default to allowing a mother to take her daughters, especially at such a young age. Get it in writing that the bf is abusive. Even if she doesn’t explicitly say “he beat them” if YOU say “remember how you brought them back because BF was hitting them with belts?” And she doesn’t refute it, that’s a step in the right direction. Because most people would deny it if it didn’t happen. Also, filing and going after custody FIRST is a mark in your favor. Especially because you’re a man (again, sad but true, statistically men don’t pursue custody as often as women). Don’t make the mistake of thinking that you’re fine and because they’re with you right now, you have any legal standing. Under a custody order, what your ex did before (taking them and disappearing) is kidnapping. And the police will find your ex and bring your kids back. With no custody order it’s just a mother taking her children, and there is nothing that police (or you) can do about it, unless she’s breaking the law in some way. GET A CUSTODY ORDER. Trust me. NO ONE has ever said “Damn, I really regret the law enforcing my rights as a parent” but there has been thousands upon thousands of parents that have regretted not having a custody arrangement in place. Don’t be one of the people that regrets it. Even if you end up with 50/50. It doesn’t sound like your ex is at a very stable or reliable point in her life. Every time she misses a weekend, every promise she breaks, every holiday she skips, it’s a mark in your favor to gaining full custody. Spend the money now. It may seem like a lot. But it’s a whole lot more hiring private detectives to find your kids and to avoid it in the future, you’ll have to spend the money to get custody anyway. | 0 | 649 | 9.1 |
ym0xha | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Is it necessary to go to court for legal custody, or should I be fine? [NC] I have 2 daughter's (6 and 7) whose birthdays were in July and September, respectively. I have been in their lives since prenatal appointments. Their mother left me for another man in July 2020. Since she left, her communication with the girls has been very spotty (months in between), and I have been 100% the only provider for them, and they've been in my physical custody. We saw her in February of last year, and then didn't hear from her until May 12th of the same year. While she was visiting during that day, I was exhausted and passed out from work. When I woke up, she was gone, and had taken the kids. She took them to live in a motel room with her boyfriend (random man to my kids and myself) and his 3 sons, who I believe ages ranged from like 6-12 at the time. She had them from May 13th, until I found her and took them back on August 26th of the same year. During the time she was gone, she wouldn't let me speak to them, and I missed my youngest daughter's birthday for the first time. The 2 times I saw her during that time frame, she tried to blackmail me I to signing joint custody papers. When. I got my kids back, they told me that their mom and her boyfriend had been spewing venom to them about me, and that the boyfriend would hit them with a belt. When I confronted her via phone, she said "Don't you think I know that? Why do you think I let you have them?". October 11th of last year, she texted me saying "I have to go away for a while". I didn't hear from her again until January on this year, and she spoke to them on the phone for all of about 5 minutes (If I'm being generous). Since then, we haven't heard from her. No birthday calla, nothing. I keep tabs on her via social media, so I know she is alive and well, and has a car. Her not seeing my kids is 100% her decision. I originally filed for full custody during the period where she took my kids, but I didn't follow through once I got them back. I still don't want to follow through yet, because I feel like she'd try to contest it just to spite me, and I don't want to wake the sleeping bear. Is it vital for me to file for custody, or am I fine by letting her go even longer without contact, to ruin her chances in the event she tries anything? I don't talk to my kids about her, as I don't see the point, but they express to me that they don't even so much as want to talk to her on the phone. Even for their birthdays. I also don't plan on ever letting her around them unsupervised, so she can't take them again. What is it looking like for me? | iv1zwbd | iv1zd0o | 1,667,584,715 | 1,667,584,508 | 91 | 9 | u/illustrious_you_2362 you HAVE to get a custody order in place. You say that you would stop her from taking the kids again but you can’t. You could try physically but then the police would be called, they would either arrest you (which means you will have hours where you can’t get legal proceedings started or have someone find out where she is) or the cops would allow their mother to take them. It’s not true that men don’t get custody when they pursue it (it’s just that a lot don’t) BUT many law enforcement might just default to allowing a mother to take her daughters, especially at such a young age. Get it in writing that the bf is abusive. Even if she doesn’t explicitly say “he beat them” if YOU say “remember how you brought them back because BF was hitting them with belts?” And she doesn’t refute it, that’s a step in the right direction. Because most people would deny it if it didn’t happen. Also, filing and going after custody FIRST is a mark in your favor. Especially because you’re a man (again, sad but true, statistically men don’t pursue custody as often as women). Don’t make the mistake of thinking that you’re fine and because they’re with you right now, you have any legal standing. Under a custody order, what your ex did before (taking them and disappearing) is kidnapping. And the police will find your ex and bring your kids back. With no custody order it’s just a mother taking her children, and there is nothing that police (or you) can do about it, unless she’s breaking the law in some way. GET A CUSTODY ORDER. Trust me. NO ONE has ever said “Damn, I really regret the law enforcing my rights as a parent” but there has been thousands upon thousands of parents that have regretted not having a custody arrangement in place. Don’t be one of the people that regrets it. Even if you end up with 50/50. It doesn’t sound like your ex is at a very stable or reliable point in her life. Every time she misses a weekend, every promise she breaks, every holiday she skips, it’s a mark in your favor to gaining full custody. Spend the money now. It may seem like a lot. But it’s a whole lot more hiring private detectives to find your kids and to avoid it in the future, you’ll have to spend the money to get custody anyway. | Now is the time to file because you have a solid case for abandonment and a chance she won't fight it. I'd file before she contacts you again so you can memorialize that period. Abandonment is a pretty straightforward cause so you should pursue it while you can. You may be eligible for free legal aid as well, based on income. | 1 | 207 | 10.111111 |
ym0xha | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Is it necessary to go to court for legal custody, or should I be fine? [NC] I have 2 daughter's (6 and 7) whose birthdays were in July and September, respectively. I have been in their lives since prenatal appointments. Their mother left me for another man in July 2020. Since she left, her communication with the girls has been very spotty (months in between), and I have been 100% the only provider for them, and they've been in my physical custody. We saw her in February of last year, and then didn't hear from her until May 12th of the same year. While she was visiting during that day, I was exhausted and passed out from work. When I woke up, she was gone, and had taken the kids. She took them to live in a motel room with her boyfriend (random man to my kids and myself) and his 3 sons, who I believe ages ranged from like 6-12 at the time. She had them from May 13th, until I found her and took them back on August 26th of the same year. During the time she was gone, she wouldn't let me speak to them, and I missed my youngest daughter's birthday for the first time. The 2 times I saw her during that time frame, she tried to blackmail me I to signing joint custody papers. When. I got my kids back, they told me that their mom and her boyfriend had been spewing venom to them about me, and that the boyfriend would hit them with a belt. When I confronted her via phone, she said "Don't you think I know that? Why do you think I let you have them?". October 11th of last year, she texted me saying "I have to go away for a while". I didn't hear from her again until January on this year, and she spoke to them on the phone for all of about 5 minutes (If I'm being generous). Since then, we haven't heard from her. No birthday calla, nothing. I keep tabs on her via social media, so I know she is alive and well, and has a car. Her not seeing my kids is 100% her decision. I originally filed for full custody during the period where she took my kids, but I didn't follow through once I got them back. I still don't want to follow through yet, because I feel like she'd try to contest it just to spite me, and I don't want to wake the sleeping bear. Is it vital for me to file for custody, or am I fine by letting her go even longer without contact, to ruin her chances in the event she tries anything? I don't talk to my kids about her, as I don't see the point, but they express to me that they don't even so much as want to talk to her on the phone. Even for their birthdays. I also don't plan on ever letting her around them unsupervised, so she can't take them again. What is it looking like for me? | iv1zwbd | iv1q16m | 1,667,584,715 | 1,667,580,965 | 91 | 6 | u/illustrious_you_2362 you HAVE to get a custody order in place. You say that you would stop her from taking the kids again but you can’t. You could try physically but then the police would be called, they would either arrest you (which means you will have hours where you can’t get legal proceedings started or have someone find out where she is) or the cops would allow their mother to take them. It’s not true that men don’t get custody when they pursue it (it’s just that a lot don’t) BUT many law enforcement might just default to allowing a mother to take her daughters, especially at such a young age. Get it in writing that the bf is abusive. Even if she doesn’t explicitly say “he beat them” if YOU say “remember how you brought them back because BF was hitting them with belts?” And she doesn’t refute it, that’s a step in the right direction. Because most people would deny it if it didn’t happen. Also, filing and going after custody FIRST is a mark in your favor. Especially because you’re a man (again, sad but true, statistically men don’t pursue custody as often as women). Don’t make the mistake of thinking that you’re fine and because they’re with you right now, you have any legal standing. Under a custody order, what your ex did before (taking them and disappearing) is kidnapping. And the police will find your ex and bring your kids back. With no custody order it’s just a mother taking her children, and there is nothing that police (or you) can do about it, unless she’s breaking the law in some way. GET A CUSTODY ORDER. Trust me. NO ONE has ever said “Damn, I really regret the law enforcing my rights as a parent” but there has been thousands upon thousands of parents that have regretted not having a custody arrangement in place. Don’t be one of the people that regrets it. Even if you end up with 50/50. It doesn’t sound like your ex is at a very stable or reliable point in her life. Every time she misses a weekend, every promise she breaks, every holiday she skips, it’s a mark in your favor to gaining full custody. Spend the money now. It may seem like a lot. But it’s a whole lot more hiring private detectives to find your kids and to avoid it in the future, you’ll have to spend the money to get custody anyway. | Document EVERYTHING!!! Part of which is to literally get a daytimer or a page a day calendar and note on each day her contact with her children even if it is zero. Also note what you did with the kids... that you bought them clothes, if you took them to the doctor, drove them to school etc. Note any phone calls you get from her & what she said. The holidays are coming up and you need to note if she called, sent a card, presents for birthdays and holidays. Document any text messages that you have had between the two of you. Get a family law attorney and get the ball rolling ASAP to file for 100% custody. She has shown you that she is manipulative, makes poor life choices, and cannot be trusted. She is a shitty parent. You need to document this. Get everything together like doctor bills you paid for, text messages, including that her BF hit the girls, lived in a motel room, get them therapy, start that paper trail that establishes her as the terrible parent she is. BTW... The other aspect of going to court is she is their parent and as such she is financially responsible and If she has a job she needs to contribute to the cost of raising them. The court will establish a support order. Even if you don't need the funds you can set the money aside as a nest egg towards college. | 1 | 3,750 | 15.166667 |
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