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elmlang | general | I’d love to hear what folks think :grin: | 2019-04-02T20:18:11.305900 | Lakita |
elmlang | general | I use JWT tokens | 2019-04-02T21:39:05.306000 | Jana |
elmlang | general | Good point — the Earth example puts this in context | 2019-04-02T21:39:47.306200 | Jana |
elmlang | general | Is it possible to expose a constructor without exposing the type? | 2019-04-03T01:03:17.306700 | Nga |
elmlang | general | you can expose a function that creates the type, but not the constructors that are part of the type. | 2019-04-03T01:07:11.307400 | Lindsey |
elmlang | general | <@Millie> oh what I meant was, should I use an iframe and render the entire app? or build the elm app and copy it into each project? Or maybe there are other ways I don't know about. | 2019-04-03T02:03:19.307500 | Chin |
elmlang | general | Hey, I was using VScode with <https://github.com/Krzysztof-Cieslak/vscode-elm> for elm 0.18, but after upgrading to 0.19 errors in my code editor are not formatted. Any suggestions how to fix that or recommendation for some other editor/package for 0.19? Thank you | 2019-04-03T02:39:30.309600 | Selena |
elmlang | general | Not sure, but I can at least say it works for me | 2019-04-03T02:44:24.309700 | Nana |
elmlang | general | And I highly recommend any JetBrains IDE, it has the best Elm plugin | 2019-04-03T02:45:15.309900 | Nana |
elmlang | general | Switched from VSCode to it | 2019-04-03T02:45:28.310100 | Nana |
elmlang | general | You can use IntelliJ Community Edition which is free | 2019-04-03T02:45:57.310300 | Nana |
elmlang | general | Depends on the the application, what's "outside" and what you're trying to do. In general a `div` is fine for Elm. | 2019-04-03T02:53:47.310500 | Millie |
elmlang | general | i keep forgetting can only the elm repos define new infix operators or can elm-community also do it? | 2019-04-03T02:59:42.311500 | Desire |
elmlang | general | can't find any mention of elm-community in the compiler, so it seems to just be the elm repos | 2019-04-03T03:01:28.312100 | Desire |
elmlang | general | it's elm and elm-explorations | 2019-04-03T03:03:24.312500 | Desire |
elmlang | general | forgot about that namespace | 2019-04-03T03:03:32.312800 | Desire |
elmlang | general | IIRC only `elm` repos can define infix operators, `elm-exploration` can contain kernel code. | 2019-04-03T03:09:16.313700 | Jin |
elmlang | general | oh, I did think that would be the same rule, but makes things easier for me | 2019-04-03T03:18:32.314300 | Desire |
elmlang | general | Yes, I might be wrong. But as of now there are only binary operators defined in `elm` packages. | 2019-04-03T03:25:54.315400 | Jin |
elmlang | general | how did you check that? | 2019-04-03T03:33:11.315800 | Desire |
elmlang | general | I’m working on a updates for elm-search and have an index of all exposed things in all published packages at hand. | 2019-04-03T03:37:27.317300 | Jin |
elmlang | general | I'll try it out thank you! | 2019-04-03T03:39:39.317400 | Selena |
elmlang | general | So if it's a div, then that means I need to copy the app into every project whenever a new version is released. Right? | 2019-04-03T03:41:07.317600 | Chin |
elmlang | general | As opposed to an iframe that is always up to date. | 2019-04-03T03:41:19.317800 | Chin |
elmlang | general | can you get me a list of all infixes used? | 2019-04-03T03:45:42.318300 | Desire |
elmlang | general | this is my current one <https://github.com/Razzeee/tree-sitter-elm/blob/add-lexer/grammar.js#L619-L642> | 2019-04-03T03:46:46.318600 | Desire |
elmlang | general | Sure. Just be careful with the ones starting with `/` :wink:
```
[
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/&&",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/*",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/+",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/++",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/-",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics//",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics///",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics//=",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/<",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/<<",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/<=",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/<|",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/==",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/>",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/>=",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/>>",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/^",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/|>",
"elm/core/1.0.2/Basics/||",
"elm/core/1.0.2/List/::",
"elm/parser/1.1.0/Parser.Advanced/|.",
"elm/parser/1.1.0/Parser.Advanced/|=",
"elm/parser/1.1.0/Parser/|.",
"elm/parser/1.1.0/Parser/|=",
"elm/url/1.0.0/Url.Parser/</>",
"elm/url/1.0.0/Url.Parser/<?>"
]
``` | 2019-04-03T03:57:33.318700 | Jin |
elmlang | general | Looks like your list | 2019-04-03T03:59:51.318900 | Jin |
elmlang | general | yep, seems like i got all. the ones used multiple times got me for a sec | 2019-04-03T04:53:17.319400 | Desire |
elmlang | general | looking for a good datepicker, currently leaning towards
<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/CurrySoftware/elm-datepicker/latest/>
though doesn't this example code look a bit fiddly for a basic datepicker? <https://ellie-app.com/3t4W6N4Trm3a1>
(in particular the update function) | 2019-04-03T07:57:51.321600 | Nana |
elmlang | general | the problem with UI components in elm is that if it holds state (ie in this case, DatePicker) then you will always have to route it’s Msg to it’s update and store it’s state in yours for _every_._single_._UI_._component_ | 2019-04-03T08:02:07.322900 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | custom elements is an option here to keep UI state local to itself in js outside of elm and only fire off msgs when the value that you care about changes | 2019-04-03T08:03:00.323700 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | yeah, but using custom elements just so you can store local state doesn't seem worth it | 2019-04-03T08:04:41.324700 | Nana |
elmlang | general | i did a POC for a datepicker component and then scrapped it once i realised we had to do it for 200+ instances, same for filterable dropdowns etc | 2019-04-03T08:04:51.325100 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | i would define local state as user input that may or may not be valid, the state of a dropdown, the month that a datepicker is on | 2019-04-03T08:05:48.325200 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | these are things that your app doesn’t particularly care about but have to route through it’s update tree | 2019-04-03T08:06:21.325400 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | btw regarding filterable dropdowns I actually made one myself, and it doesn't require so much code to use :thinking_face: | 2019-04-03T08:06:47.325600 | Nana |
elmlang | general | if it has a update function and state, i’d prolly not use it.. sorry, we have over 100 dropdowns in our app | 2019-04-03T08:08:07.325800 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | more that double of that for datetime inputs | 2019-04-03T08:08:27.326000 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | I wasn't suggesting you should switch to my select :stuck_out_tongue: | 2019-04-03T08:09:33.326200 | Nana |
elmlang | general | no no, i was demonstrating the impracticality at scale for using ui components in elm | 2019-04-03T08:10:26.326500 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | it works if you have a handful of forms | 2019-04-03T08:10:47.326700 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | this is a topic that’s still frustrating us as we haven’t gone to custom elements yet and having to write quite a bit of boilerplates to make our UI work | 2019-04-03T08:11:51.326900 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | hmm, but if you're using custom elements everywhere, it seems like you'd kind of lose a lot of the benefit of Elm | 2019-04-03T08:12:45.327200 | Nana |
elmlang | general | i would argue that you don’t lose much by storing user inputs locally. the benefits we have using elm is typing our business logic in case statements, this we don’t lose. typing our api connection to the backend and removing impossible state from our pages, internal data representation | 2019-04-03T08:15:39.327400 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | the only problem is when the local ui state goes out of sync with the elm state, how to handle all the edge cases around that. but if NRI are using it successfully for all their UI components, it gives me hope | 2019-04-03T08:16:48.327600 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | oh, this one seems much simpler though!
<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/NoRedInk/datetimepicker-legacy/latest> | 2019-04-03T08:26:31.327800 | Nana |
elmlang | general | ```
update msg model =
case msg of
DateChange datePickerState selectedDate ->
( { model | selectedDate = selectedDate, datePickerState = datePickerState }, Cmd.none )
``` | 2019-04-03T08:27:16.328000 | Nana |
elmlang | general | Yeah, I was about to suggest looking into `elm-sortable-table`, which is the pattern used by `datetimepicker-legacy` as well | 2019-04-03T08:28:07.328200 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | and the pattern I'm using for my `select` :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-04-03T08:28:46.328400 | Nana |
elmlang | general | Evan had very good reasoning behind those design decision | 2019-04-03T08:28:52.328600 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | And it should definitely help when there are hundreds of similar components, I think | 2019-04-03T08:29:34.328800 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | Without resorting to custom elements (which I think will be a time bomb) | 2019-04-03T08:29:58.329000 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | my only issue is that it's using elm-css :thinking_face: I'd actually prefer some nicely namespace-prefixed classes plus a .css file - easier to customize | 2019-04-03T08:32:24.330100 | Nana |
elmlang | general | We make heavy use of the sortable table pattern across our components, and lots of use of web components (including date picker) | 2019-04-03T08:32:43.330700 | Simon |
elmlang | general | (That pattern needs a name)... | 2019-04-03T08:33:10.331200 | Simon |
elmlang | general | Web component for the win, here, agreed | 2019-04-03T08:33:27.331700 | Simon |
elmlang | general | Your apps needs/size can dictate your choices here, | 2019-04-03T08:34:02.332600 | Simon |
elmlang | general | For instance elm is fantastic but if we had to give up consumer quality date pickers from the js ecosystem that’s a huge experiential step back for our users. Web components give us a choice. I look forward to a date picker of the same caliber, we seem pretty far from it. Same for charting. All that said, surgical web components for us have not been problematic in the least, fwiw | 2019-04-03T08:35:39.335400 | Simon |
elmlang | general | <@Simon> so what datepicker are you using that you think is better than this?
<https://abadi199.github.io/datetimepicker/>
I don't really see what it's missing :thinking_face: | 2019-04-03T08:37:42.335700 | Nana |
elmlang | general | oh, I guess date ranges would be one thing :smile: | 2019-04-03T08:38:02.336000 | Nana |
elmlang | general | One sec | 2019-04-03T08:38:24.336400 | Simon |
elmlang | general | <https://flatpickr.js.org/> | 2019-04-03T08:40:22.336700 | Simon |
elmlang | general | We migrated away from the one you linked | 2019-04-03T08:40:56.337300 | Simon |
elmlang | general | <@Simon> I see :thinking_face: | 2019-04-03T08:53:25.337500 | Nana |
elmlang | general | Can link our elm signature if interested | 2019-04-03T08:55:10.338000 | Simon |
elmlang | general | I am curious <@Simon> | 2019-04-03T08:59:43.338600 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | Will post after a short commute; similarly we have algolia autocomplete, and chartjs | 2019-04-03T09:01:06.339700 | Simon |
elmlang | general | The only other thing I believe we use WC for is image fallbacks on load failure | 2019-04-03T09:01:30.340500 | Simon |
elmlang | general | <https://gist.github.com/aaronwhite/fd7c79f34ddc07cb6864fdb13b4b32c9> | 2019-04-03T09:38:02.340700 | Simon |
elmlang | general | Thanks! | 2019-04-03T09:38:11.340900 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | :thumbsup: | 2019-04-03T09:38:21.341100 | Simon |
elmlang | general | (RecordUpdaters are funcs of the form `updateProperty value record = { record | property = value }`; we use them for nicer chainability | 2019-04-03T09:39:29.341300 | Simon |
elmlang | general | I see, thanks | 2019-04-03T09:39:47.341500 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | <@Ruthann> have you seen my library that makes custom elements at scale OK? <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/z5h/component-result/1.0.1/> | 2019-04-03T09:44:04.341700 | Leoma |
elmlang | general | ^^ thats a great lib | 2019-04-03T09:47:55.341900 | Simon |
elmlang | general | ideal pattern to rally around when hosting in elm | 2019-04-03T09:48:24.342100 | Simon |
elmlang | general | Hello everybody, just wanted to share that we have opened the channel <#CHAAB0RTP|openapi> – for those of us who use elm with openapi and/or openapi-generator. Feel free to join :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-04-03T10:35:27.343300 | Odell |
elmlang | general | Question: I’m in a situation on a work project where I need to use file select and then post it to a rest api. elm/file makes the selection part of this easy, and elm/http 2.0 would also make this easy, but the team has voted to keep HttpBuilder which is not compatible with 2.0.
I’ve been creating a dataUrl from the file, passing it through a port and uploading, but there’s a limit on the size of the file I can do this way, both a hardcoded limit in some browsers and a practical limit because doing this with a 50mb file (which some of these files are) is somewhat unwieldy.
Anyone have thoughts on how I could pass file data or a blob through a port? Am I missing something? | 2019-04-03T11:14:27.349000 | Cammy |
elmlang | general | My personal vote would be to write something that gives you the httpbuilder API, for elm/[email protected]. Over time, you'll run into more cases where the dependency of [email protected] becomes a blocking issue - libraries you wish to use, new elm version, ... | 2019-04-03T11:19:11.350600 | Huong |
elmlang | general | Yeah, I suggested that and even began work on it but was overruled. | 2019-04-03T11:20:35.351200 | Cammy |
elmlang | general | Just trying to swtich a large project to 0.19. We were victims of the compiler bug and thus are using the patched version from <@Donella>. But even with that I’m getting a huge number of
```
Error: Compiler process exited with error Compilation failed
elm: not enough bytes
CallStack (from HasCallStack):
error, called at libraries/binary/src/Data/Binary.hs:212:21 in binary-0.8.5.1:Data.Binary
``` | 2019-04-03T11:38:14.352700 | Lynn |
elmlang | general | This happens if you have several elm builds occurring simultaneously (IDE + webpack + ... for example).
This could help:
<https://discourse.elm-lang.org/t/working-around-not-enough-bytes-problems/3359>
Also it is likely that the next release will include some lock by default. | 2019-04-03T11:42:27.352900 | Velia |
elmlang | general | thanks a lot | 2019-04-03T11:44:35.353200 | Lynn |
elmlang | general | Quick thanks to everyone who helped with recommendations on elmx / zeplin a while back! | 2019-04-03T15:10:13.357300 | Kymberly |
elmlang | general | I have `sysconfcpus -n 1` around eeeeeverything related to elm | 2019-04-03T15:27:38.357400 | Florencia |
elmlang | general | when this happens I also usually stop the tools and `rm -rf elm-stuff` and then try again | 2019-04-03T15:27:56.357600 | Florencia |
elmlang | general | Is there a list online of the local meetups that exist? | 2019-04-03T18:16:36.358500 | Marcellus |
elmlang | general | i don’t know that, but I do know there are regular ones in Australia. Sydney and Melbourne:
<https://www.meetup.com/Sydney-Elm-Meetup/>
<https://www.meetup.com/Elm-Melbourne/> | 2019-04-03T23:34:28.359100 | Ruthann |
elmlang | general | What's the `?` in error messages? | 2019-04-04T01:48:31.360300 | Kris |
elmlang | general | ```This `combine` call produces:
? -> String
``` | 2019-04-04T01:48:35.360500 | Kris |
elmlang | general | I guess the compiler could not infer the type | 2019-04-04T02:51:39.360700 | Monnie |
elmlang | general | And London. :slightly_smiling_face:
<https://www.meetup.com/Elm-London-Meetup/> | 2019-04-04T03:01:19.361100 | Clarissa |
elmlang | general | I want to highlight the code in div on the page and how I write elm. Who can recommend some documents? | 2019-04-04T03:39:30.361600 | Carrie |
elmlang | general | I would have a look how the Elm package website integrates with <https://highlightjs.org>.
elm-explorations/markdown explains it a bit in its Readme.
<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm-explorations/markdown/latest/>
Also see <https://github.com/elm/package.elm-lang.org/blob/master/src/frontend/Utils/Markdown.elm> and <https://github.com/elm/package.elm-lang.org/blob/e0b7aa4282038475612722ff7a57195866f8645b/backend/ServeFile.hs#L54> | 2019-04-04T04:02:15.363100 | Jin |
elmlang | general | Thank you very much. | 2019-04-04T04:11:24.363500 | Carrie |
elmlang | general | Berlin <https://www.meetup.com/Elm-Berlin/> | 2019-04-04T04:58:42.363800 | Hoa |
elmlang | general | Hi all, we're looking at using Elm for a project but need to be able to use (1) <http://deck.gl|deck.gl> (Uber's webgl-accelerated mapping framework) & (2) d3 (for generating visualizations in SVG) | 2019-04-04T05:09:08.365300 | Fidela |
elmlang | general | I have been reading a little bit about interop and I'm not really sure whether this is something that could work well for us? | 2019-04-04T05:09:28.365700 | Fidela |
elmlang | general | what's up with the <http://deck.gl|deck.gl> website!? :grimacing:
it totally tanks my computer | 2019-04-04T05:12:26.365800 | Nana |
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