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elmlang
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Right, and the jscall stuff
2019-04-04T14:38:03.433700
Niesha
elmlang
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But yeah those are nitpicking
2019-04-04T14:38:04.433800
Kris
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Hello all, I am planning to write a little article on <http://Medium.com|Medium.com> on implementing Schelling’s segregation model in Elm. I’d like to get comments on a draft once I get to that point. Is there a way of doing that on Medium (or some other place)? I am particularly interested in comments on things that I am doing that are not efficient. As the model scales up in size, (NxN cells), it slows down considerably. At each step, N^2 computations have to be done. Thanks! Here is a reference if you are intereted: <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/15/1/6.html>
2019-04-04T16:12:10.436800
Jana
elmlang
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for just the code a gist could work to find code-level optimizations (rewriting andThen to map2/map3, etc, fusing maps, data structure creation/modification).
2019-04-04T16:15:24.438300
Virgie
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<@Virgie> — good idea. I’ll write something up this evening and post a link. If you could comment, that would be great.
2019-04-04T16:16:35.439500
Jana
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Hi! I wrote a tetris game <https://ellie-app.com/59Thpkzr5G9a1>, but I'm having issues with rotation math - shapes are rotating weirdly. Rotation works by rotating each block around pivot point (visible in "Pause" mode). If someone good at math could take a look, I would appreciate the help :slightly_smiling_face: I put the rotation functions at the top of the code...
2019-04-04T17:55:27.443200
Izola
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I'd suggest you use elm-geometry for this kind of thing, specifically <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/ianmackenzie/elm-geometry/latest/Point2d#rotateAround>, unless you really want to figure out the math yourself
2019-04-04T17:57:20.443800
Virgie
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I'll take a look. Thanks!
2019-04-04T17:59:12.444700
Izola
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I took a quick look and I think there might be a couple issues. First is that you're using the top-left corner of each block as its `Location`; you're rotating it properly (assuming you want a clockwise rotation), but then *the result is no longer the top left corner* (that corner is now the top *right* corner, if you're rotating 90 degrees clockwise). By treating the result as the top left corner again, you basically add an extra one-block shift to the right.
2019-04-04T18:16:48.445900
Janiece
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Also, for anything but the square piece, the center of rotation does not have integral coordinates - this means that some of the resulting points will not have integral coordinates, and will then get rounded which I think causes additional weirdness
2019-04-04T18:17:50.446100
Janiece
elmlang
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I suspect it might make more sense to round the coordinates of the center to be integral before doing any rotation
2019-04-04T18:18:42.446300
Janiece
elmlang
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I'm obviously in favor of you using `elm-geometry` but in this case I don't think it's the actual rotation math (`rotateLocation`) that's tripping you up :smiley:
2019-04-04T18:21:01.446500
Janiece
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Thanks for the input! I'll try to adjust points to the center of block before rotation then convert to grid points after. That might work...
2019-04-04T18:27:39.446800
Izola
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I'm trying out `elm-geometry` right now :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-04-04T18:27:52.447000
Izola
elmlang
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What is the difference between the `elm` and `elm-lang` packages?
2019-04-04T18:42:21.447400
Porter
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`elm` is for 0.19 and future versions, `elm-lang` is for 0.18 and before
2019-04-04T18:42:57.448100
Virgie
elmlang
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For example, <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm/core/latest> and <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm-lang/core/latest> both claim to be the stdlib
2019-04-04T18:43:04.448300
Porter
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Ah thank you
2019-04-04T18:43:06.448500
Porter
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It would be really helpful if the page for `elm-lang` said it was for 0.18 and earlier
2019-04-04T18:43:29.448900
Porter
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Can I open a PR for the docs?
2019-04-04T18:43:35.449100
Porter
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Ah, I see the source is now read-only :disappointed:
2019-04-04T18:44:36.449300
Porter
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Thanks again for the insights about origin! I managed to get it working now <https://ellie-app.com/59W5tW5wDSCa1>. I had to use a small "hack" with rounding - if piece is tall I floor float value, otherwise ceil it. I have no idea why, but it works :smile:
2019-04-04T19:51:02.449900
Izola
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Cool, looks good!
2019-04-04T20:27:56.450400
Janiece
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Hi does anyone here have any experience working with slashmili/phoenix-sockets package?
2019-04-04T22:23:14.451400
Vesta
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I am trying to use it to connect to an elixir backend. I can send messages using long-polling to Elixir and change things on the server, however I cannot get Channel.on “event” Function to actually here the “event”
2019-04-04T22:24:43.453000
Vesta
elmlang
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Has anyone had success with this?
2019-04-04T22:24:51.453300
Vesta
elmlang
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Or similar trouble?
2019-04-04T22:25:00.453500
Vesta
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<@Vesta> have you set up the ports for it?
2019-04-04T22:29:05.454100
Earlean
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Well… no… I suppose I have not — I thought this was an alternative to that. I was encouraged by the fact that I can send to phoenix without an issue…
2019-04-04T22:30:49.455200
Vesta
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I didn’t find any helpful documentation on doing that with the phoenix-sockets package so didn’t realize it was necessary.
2019-04-04T22:31:43.456100
Vesta
elmlang
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ah, I see. It's not using websockets, it's just doing long polling
2019-04-04T22:33:01.456700
Earlean
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Right.
2019-04-04T22:33:11.457100
Vesta
elmlang
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Are you calling `listen` and returning it from your `subscriptions` ?
2019-04-04T22:33:54.457900
Earlean
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what is `model.phxSocket` set to?
2019-04-04T22:36:50.460300
Earlean
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None
2019-04-04T22:38:35.460800
Vesta
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That’s directly from the example.
2019-04-04T22:39:06.461300
Vesta
elmlang
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and then you use `join` to join the channel you get from `Channel.on` ?
2019-04-04T22:44:50.461900
Earlean
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None
2019-04-04T22:46:21.462000
Vesta
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None
2019-04-04T22:46:54.462300
Vesta
elmlang
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<@Vesta> where do you update the model with the value in `updatedSocketModel` ?
2019-04-04T22:47:23.463400
Earlean
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In JoinChannel I don’t update it, but I do elsewhere… is that the issue?
2019-04-04T22:48:45.464500
Vesta
elmlang
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perhaps you want ` ( {model | phxSocket = updatedSocketModel}, newCommand )`
2019-04-04T22:48:46.464600
Earlean
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if you don't use the value returned from a function then it was pointless to call the function as it did nothing
2019-04-04T22:49:53.465300
Earlean
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if you don't update `model.phxSocket` then your `subscriptions` will subscribe you to the old socket which doesn't include joining the channel
2019-04-04T22:51:02.466200
Earlean
elmlang
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Yes, this makes sense — yet still doesn’t seem to have solved the issue.
2019-04-04T22:52:47.466600
Vesta
elmlang
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I made another channel2 function that I am calling elsewhere where I definitely am resetting the model.phxSocket also and still no dice.
2019-04-04T22:53:48.467600
Vesta
elmlang
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I’ve tried using the Push.okOk command as well to see if I can trigger something on an “ok” response.
2019-04-04T22:54:22.468300
Vesta
elmlang
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You should try to make a simpler example that only joins one channel so you have a good understanding of how the package works before making it more complex
2019-04-04T22:56:01.469200
Earlean
elmlang
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I suspect you're ignoring return values in other places too
2019-04-04T22:56:28.469800
Earlean
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Well it is only one channel. I just made another function to test other things.
2019-04-04T22:56:37.470100
Vesta
elmlang
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can you show a complete example?
2019-04-04T22:57:32.470600
Earlean
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Yes, np — I’ve been banging my head on this for a couple days. I’m about to call it quits and just do it with ports and javascript and elm.
2019-04-04T22:58:19.471400
Vesta
elmlang
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is there archiving mechanism for current elm slack? Some useful conversations may get lost otherwise.
2019-04-05T00:42:12.476400
Yolando
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Does anyone know a safe/reliable way to change the `Elm` global that the compiler outputs? We’ve got a number of small apps which are distributed via CDN and would like to mangle the ID so that different versions of the compiled elm runtime can exist on the same page (assuming that would be possible)
2019-04-05T00:49:47.480800
Tisa
elmlang
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Consider it an implementation of the "right to be forgotten"
2019-04-05T01:26:44.481800
Niesha
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Anyone got a suggestion why this Url parsing does not work ``` testUrl = { fragment = Just "edit", host = "localhost", path = "/index.html", port_ = Just 3000, protocol = Http, query = Nothing } parsingTests = describe "parsing Tests" [ test "simple" &lt;| \_ -&gt; Parser.parse (fragment fragmentHandler) testUrl |&gt; Expect.equal (Just RouteL0) ``` I know that fragmentHandler is returning `RouteL0`
2019-04-05T04:27:37.485900
Lynn
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Do you mean ID of DOM element to which your Elm app is attached (assuming you are talking about `Browser.element` app)?
2019-04-05T04:28:19.486000
Lynne
elmlang
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If i change to `path = ""` the test does pass
2019-04-05T04:30:15.486500
Lynn
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I think they have multiple compiled Elm apps. If you’re just including them in a &lt;script&gt; tag with no build step like webpack or parcel, then each one is going to expose a global Elm variable. I think they’re concerned that they’ll all overwrite each other.
2019-04-05T04:48:06.489500
Danika
elmlang
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I cant say for sure, but if each Elm program has a different name (eg don’t call them all Main) then you might be fine?
2019-04-05T04:48:44.491300
Danika
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<@Lynn> `Parser.parse` matches against the path, query and fragment. The url you're parsing has a path so it won't match
2019-04-05T04:49:47.492200
Earlean
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if you want ignore that this url has a path, set the path to "" before parsing
2019-04-05T04:51:32.492700
Earlean
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Well, that's what I understood as well. I was about to suggest doing this at build time actually
2019-04-05T04:51:47.492800
Lynne
elmlang
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Changing Elm global implies at least some access to bundling phase
2019-04-05T04:52:14.493000
Lynne
elmlang
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Including multiple `Elm` bundles on a single page shouldn't be a problem - the exposed apps are automatically merged, assuming each app has a differently named `Main` module. so if you have something like ```&lt;script src="bundle1.js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt; &lt;script src="bundle2.js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;``` where `bundle1.js` has `Bundle1` as the main module and `bundle2.js` has `Bundle2` as the main module, you end up with a single `Elm.Bundle1` and `Elm.Bundle2`.
2019-04-05T05:05:01.493300
Huong
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Elm _will_ balk at you if the bundles use the same name for the main module, tho
2019-04-05T05:05:22.493500
Huong
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thanks <@Earlean> - that’s what I figured out subsequently
2019-04-05T05:20:05.494200
Lynn
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Is there any way to define that some a is type of Record in funcion signature and then add field to that record? gg : { a } -&gt; { a | b : String }
2019-04-05T05:41:37.496700
Selena
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Nope, it is not possible to add or remove fields from arbitrary records. One has to be explicit about what is expected and what is returned.
2019-04-05T05:47:27.497800
Lynne
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You can craft something like this: ``` type alias One a = { a | one : Int } type alias Two a = { a | two : Int } gg : One {} -&gt; Two (One {}) gg a = { one = a.one, two = 2 } ``` But I doubt it is super useful
2019-04-05T05:50:55.498400
Lynne
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Beat me to it
2019-04-05T05:51:16.498900
Danika
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2:0 :smile:
2019-04-05T05:51:25.499100
Lynne
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The code above is the same as ``` gg : { one : Int } -&gt; { one : Int, two : Int } gg a = { one = a.one, two = 2 } ``` Maybe it is close to what you were after <@Selena>
2019-04-05T05:54:12.499900
Lynne
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<@Lynne> Yes it helped, thank you very much :smile:
2019-04-05T06:07:53.500600
Selena
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hello everyone! I have en elm app of type `Browser.element` can I read the url from this kind of apps? :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-04-05T06:10:39.500800
Karrie
elmlang
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Browser.application is the only native way to get the URL afaik, you could always use ports though
2019-04-05T06:15:00.501900
Danika
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<@Danika> I have an url like this: `/pages/2/edit/`
2019-04-05T06:16:02.502400
Karrie
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and all I need is the `2`
2019-04-05T06:16:39.502900
Karrie
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would pass the whole path to Elm or just the `2` ?
2019-04-05T06:16:54.503300
Karrie
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I’d personally pass the whole thing and parse it myself. I suppose it depends on your requirements as to how robust the solution needs to be
2019-04-05T06:17:30.504200
Danika
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I just read the same thing here: <https://github.com/elm/browser/blob/1.0.0/notes/navigation-in-elements.md>
2019-04-05T06:19:18.504600
Karrie
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thanks <@Danika> :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-04-05T06:20:43.504800
Karrie
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Aye im on mobile, glad someone else posted the link ^^
2019-04-05T06:21:02.505300
Danika
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I view forgetting as a constructive activity, like cleaning house
2019-04-05T07:51:37.505900
Jana
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i feel like our old codebase is forcing me to commit horrible crimes^^ bending our redux state into a strongly typed model is so difficult that right now i'm just holding a Value and creating selectors on it that extract interesting information^^
2019-04-05T08:10:09.507000
Emilee
elmlang
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maybe it'll at least result in some usable api^^'
2019-04-05T08:11:35.507500
Emilee
elmlang
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Is there a way of running a shell script to compile an app when the code changes? I prefer not to use webpack or yarn and just work with shell scripts only. (I know, I am retro) :smile:
2019-04-05T08:20:40.509300
Jana
elmlang
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I've seen `entr` being recommended before <http://eradman.com/entrproject/>
2019-04-05T08:22:49.509900
Sharon
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I used to use <https://github.com/cortesi/modd> back in the days
2019-04-05T08:23:13.510200
Jin
elmlang
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Though this is not really shell script only
2019-04-05T08:24:15.510600
Jin
elmlang
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Thanks all, right now I’m looking at `entr`, then I’ll check out `modd`
2019-04-05T08:51:41.511600
Jana
elmlang
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If you want to go really low-tech, you can do something like this stackoverflow answer: <https://serverfault.com/a/436739>
2019-04-05T08:58:47.512000
Dede
elmlang
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`entr` looks cool though!
2019-04-05T08:59:08.512300
Dede
elmlang
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So I have a tricky situation with an API: I need to save a set of `Entries` to the server. Each `Entry` is a single API request, and replies with an `EntryUpdateResponse` which contains the newest list of entries which I use to update the UI model. Thus, I need to batch multiple requests, and then, to ensure that I only use the most recent response to update my data. I can do the former just fine. Just build a list of entry requests and give it to `Cmd.batch`. But `Cmd.batch` is non-deterministic; there's no order guarantee, and so my UI goes into wrong states because requests resolve out of order. How I fix?
2019-04-05T09:06:25.516900
Gertrude
elmlang
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I think you may want to fire off the requests one at a time and build up a "queue" of entries to be saved
2019-04-05T09:10:15.518400
Carman
elmlang
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Note that even if `Cmd.batch` was processing in order, I don't think that there would any guarantee that the network or web server would keep it, and that responses would come with the same order. So the problem is more an API one.
2019-04-05T09:13:13.522000
Velia
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<@Velia> the original JS version works but just doing a for loop and blocking on each request in turn until it's done, only keeping the last response. It's slow but ... it does work.
2019-04-05T09:14:56.525000
Gertrude
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As <@Velia> says, if you can change the API, I think you should create a way to batch updates, which will lower the time spent establishing http requests (always a good thing) and maybe perform saves as a transaction (often another good thing).
2019-04-05T09:15:02.525200
Antonette
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<@Gertrude> then this is what <@Carman> suggests, do one ~Cmd~ request at a time.
2019-04-05T09:15:25.526000
Velia
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Then again, if you really want to save batches of updates as a sequence, you probably should chain `Task`s instead of batching `Cmd`s.
2019-04-05T09:16:05.527300
Antonette