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ูุฃูู ุจูููู ูู ูุฐุง ููุฐุง ูุนูู ุจุฃู ุนู
ูู ุฌูุฏ ุจุทุฑููุฉ ุฃู ุจุฃุฎุฑู | by saying all that, it means your work is good somehow. |
ูุฃุธู ุจุฃู ูู ุดุฎุต.. ุฃุนูู ุจุฃู ูุฐุง ูููู ุญูููุฉุ ูุงูุฌุงุฐุจูุฉ | And I think everybody -- I mean that should be a matter of fact, like gravity. |
ูุง ูู
ููู ุชุญุฏู ุงูุฌุงุฐุจูุฉ | You're not going to defy gravity. |
ูุชูุฌุจ ุนููู ุงูุนู
ู ู
ุน ูุณู
ุงูุจูุงุก | You've got to work with the building department. |
ูุฅุฐุง ูู
ุชุณุชุฎุฏู
ุงูู
ูุฒุงููุฉ ุงูู
ุชุงุญุฉ ุจุดูู ุตุญูุญุ ููู ุชุชู
ูู ู
ู ุฅูุฌุงุฒ ุงููุซูุฑ ู
ู ุงูุฃุนู
ุงู | If you don't meet the budgets, you're not going to get much work. |
ุฅุฐุง ุญุตู ุชุณุฑุจ.. ุจูุจุงู ูู
ูุณุฑุจ | If it leaks -- Bilbao did not leak. |
ุฃูุชุฎุฑ ุจุฐูู ูุซูุฑุงู | I was so proud. |
ู
ุดุฑูุน ุงูุฅู
ุขู ุชู.. ูุงููุง ูุนู
ููู ู
ุนู ู
ูุงุจูุฉ ููุฅู
ุขู ุชู ูุฃุฑุณููุง ุจุนุถ ุนู
ุงู ุงูุฎุฏู
ุฉ ูุฏููู
ุฅูู ุจูุจุงู | The MIT project -- they were interviewing me for MIT and they sent their facilities people to Bilbao. |
ูุงุจูุชูู
ูู ุจูุจุงู | I met them in Bilbao. |
ุญุถุฑูุง ูุซูุงุซุฉ ุฃูุงู
| They came for three days. |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ูู ูุฐุง ู
ุจูู ุงูุญุงุณุจ ุงูุขููุ | RSW: This is the computer building? |
ูุฑุงูู: ูุนู
ุ ู
ุจูู ุงูุญุงุณุจ | FG: Yeah, the computer building. |
ูุงููุง ููุงู ูุซูุงุซุฉ ุฃูุงู
ุ ููุงูุช ุชู
ุทุฑ ูู ููู
ูุธููุง ูุฌูุจูู ุงูุฃุฑุฌุงุก ูุงุญุธุช ุจุฃููู
ูุจุญุซูู ุชุญุช ุงูุฃุดูุงุก ูุจุญุซูู ุนู ุฃุดูุงุก ููุฃููู
ูุชุณุงุกููู ุนู ุฃูู ุฃุฎูููุง ุฃุณุทู ุงูู
ุงุกุ ุชุนูู
ุ | They were there three days and it rained every day and they kept walking around -- I noticed they were looking under things and looking for things, and they wanted to know where the buckets were hidden, you know? |
ุนุงุฏุฉ ูุถุน ุงููุงุณ ุฃุณุทู ุงูู
ุงุก ูู ุงูู
ุจุงูู ุญูู ูุญุตู ุชุณุฑุจ | People put buckets out ... |
ุฃู
ุง ุฃูุง ููุฏ ุฃุซุจุชุช ุจุฑุงุกุชู! ูู
ููู ููุงู ุฃู ุชุณุฑุจ ูุนูู ูู ุงูู
ูุงู ูุงู ุจู
ูุชูู ุงูุฑูุนุฉ | I was clean. There wasn't a bloody leak in the place, it was just fantastic. |
ูููู ูุฌุจ ุนููู ุฃู.. ุญุณูุงูุ ูู ุงูู
ุจุงูู ูุงูุช ุชุณุฑุจ ูุจู ูุฐุงุ ูุฐุง ูุงู ูุฐุง.. | But you've got to -- yeah, well up until then every building leaked, so this ... |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ูุงู ูุฏู ูุฑุงูู ููุน ู
ู ุงูู.. | RSW: Frank had a sort of ... |
ูุฑุงูู: ุงุณุฃู ู
ุฑูุงู
! | FG: Ask Miriam! |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: .. ูุงู ูุฏูู ููุน ู
ู ุงูุดูุฑุฉ.. ุดูุฑุชู ุจุฏุฃุช ูู ููุณ ุฃูุฌูุณ ููุชุฑุฉ | RW: ... sort of had a fame. His fame was built on that in L.A. for a while. |
ูุฑุงูู: ุฌู
ูุนูู
ุณู
ุน ุจูุตุฉ ูุฑุงูู ุฅููููุฏ ุฑุงูุช ุนูุฏู
ุง ุงุชุตูุช ุงู
ุฑุฃุฉ ููุงูุช "ุณูุฏ ุฑุงูุชุ ุฃูุง ุฌุงูุณุฉ ุนูู ุงูุฃุฑููุฉ ูุงูู
ุงุก ูููู
ุฑ ุนูู ุฑุฃุณู" | FG: You've all heard the Frank Lloyd Wright story, when the woman called and said, "Mr. Wright, I'm sitting on the couch and the water's pouring in on my head." |
ููุงู ููุง "ุณูุฏุชูุ ุบูุฑู ู
ูุงู ูุฑุณูู" | And he said, "Madam, move your chair." |
ุจุนุฏูุง ุจุณููุงุช ููุช ุฃููู
ุจุนู
ู ุจูุงุก ูุงู ุจูุชุงู ุตุบูุฑุงู ุนูู ุงูุดุงุทุฆ ููููุฑุชูู ุณุงูู
ูู ููุงูุช ุณูุฑุชุงุฑูุชู ู
ู ุงูููุน ุงููุงุณู ูุงุชุตูุช ุจู ููุงูุช "ุงูุณูุฏ ุณุงูู
ูู ุฌุงูุณ ุนูู ู
ูุชุจู ูููุงู ู
ุงุก ูููู
ุฑ ุนูู ุฑุฃุณู" | So, some years later I was doing a building, a little house on the beach for Norton Simon, and his secretary, who was kind of a hell on wheels type lady, called me and said, "Mr. Simon's sitting at his desk and the water's coming in on his head." |
ูููุช ููุง ู
ุซู ู
ุง ูุงู ูุฑุงูู ุฅููููุฏ ุฑุงูุช | And I told her the Frank Lloyd Wright story. |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ูู
ุชุญุตู ุนูู ุถุญูุฉ | RSW: Didn't get a laugh. |
ูุฑุงูู: ููุงุ ูุญุชู ุงูุขู ูู
ุฃุญุตู ุนูู ุถุญูุฉ | FG: No. Not now either. |
ู
ุบุฒู ููุงู
ู ูู.. ูุฃุณู
ูู "ู
ุงุฐุง ุจุนุฏุ" | But my point is that ... and I call it the "then what?" |
ูู ุฃูู ุจุนุฏ ุญูู ููู ุงูู
ุดุงูู ูุจุนุฏ ููุงู
ู ุจูู ู
ุง ุนููู ุงูููุงู
ุจู. ุจุนุฏ ููุงู
ู ุจุนู
ู ุฌูุฏ ูุจุนุฏ ุญุจู ูุฒุจุงุฆูู ูุจุนุฏ ุญุจู ููู
ุฏููุฉ ุจุนุฏ ุฃู ุฃุซุจุชุช ุจุฃูู ุดุฎุต ุฌูุฏ.. ุฃูุช ุดุฎุต ุฌูุฏ | OK, you solved all the problems, you did all the stuff, you made nice, you loved your clients, you loved the city, you're a good guy, you're a good person ... |
ูููู ู
ุงุฐุง ุจุนุฏุ | and then what? |
ู
ุง ุงูุฌุฏูุฏ ุงูุฐู ุชูุฏู
ูุ | What do you bring to it? |
ูุฃุนุชูุฏ ุจุฃู ูุฐุง ูู ุงูุฐู ูุทุงูู
ุง ุฃูู
ูู ูููู.. ูููู ุชุนุจูุฑุงู ุดุฎุตูุงู ููุนุงู ู
ุง | And I think that's what I've always been interested in, is that -- which is a personal kind of expression. |
ุจูุจุงู ุจุงุนุชูุงุฏูุ ุฃุธูุฑ ุฅู
ูุงููุฉ ุฃู ูููู ูู ูุฐุง ุงูุชุนุจูุฑ ุงูุดุฎุตู ูุจููุณ ุงูููุช ูู
ุณ ูู ุงูุฃุณุงุณูุงุช ุงูู
ุทููุจุฉ ููุงูุฏู
ุงุฌ ุจุงูู
ุฏููุฉ | Bilbao, I think, shows that you can have that kind of personal expression and still touch all the bases that are necessary of fitting into the city. |
ูุฐุง ู
ุง ุฐูุฑูู ุจู | That's what reminded me of it. |
ูุฃุธู ุจุฃู ูุฐุง ูู ุงูู
ูุถูุนุ ุชุนุฑู ุฅูู ู
ูุถูุน "ู
ุงุฐุง ุจุนุฏ" ุนูุฏู
ุง ูุฎุชุงุฑ ู
ุนุธู
ุงูุฒุจุงุฆู ุงุณุชุฆุฌุงุฑ ุงูู
ููุฏุณูู .. ู
ุนุธู
ุงูุฒุจุงุฆู ูุง ูุคุฌุฑูู ุงูู
ููุฏุณูู ููุฐุง ุงูุณุจุจ | And I think that's the issue, you know; it's the "then what" that most clients who hire architects -- most clients aren't hiring architects for that. |
ุฅููู
ูุณุชุฃุฌุฑูููู
ููููู
ูุง ุจุฅูุฌุงุฒ ุงูุนู
ูุ ูุจุงูู
ูุฒุงููุฉ ุงูู
ุญุฏุฏุฉ ุชุนูู
ู
ุง ุฃุนูู.. ุนููู ุฃู ุชููู ู
ุคุฏุจุงู ูุจูุฐุง ู
ุนุธู
ุงูุฒุจุงุฆู ูุถูุนูู ุงููุฑุตุฉ ุงูุญููููุฉ ูู
ุนุฑูุฉ ุงูููู
ุฉ ุงูุญููููุฉ ููู
ููุฏุณ | They're hiring them to get it done, get it on budget, be polite, and they're missing out on the real value of an architect. |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ูู ู
ุฑุญูุฉ ู
ุนููุฉ ู
ู ุงูุฒู
ู ู
ูุฐ ุจุถุนุฉ ุณููุงุชุ ุงููุงุณ.. ุนูุฏู
ุง ูุงู ู
ุงููู ูุฑููุฒ ุจู
ุซุงุจุฉ ู
ูุถุฉุ ูุจู ุฃุจุงุฑูู ุงูุดุงู.. | RSW: At a certain point a number of years ago, people -- when Michael Graves was a fashion, before teapots ... |
ูุฑุงูู: ูุฏ ุตูุนุช ุฅุจุฑููุงู ููุดุงู ู
ู ูุจู ููู
ูุดุชุฑู ุฃุญุฏ | FG: I did a teapot and nobody bought it. |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ูู ุญุตู ููู ุชุณุฑุจุ | RSW: Did it leak? |
ูุฑุงูู: ูุง | FG: No. |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ูุงู ุงููุงุณ ูุฑูุฏูู ู
ุจุงูู ู
ู ู
ุงููู ูุฑููุฒ | RSW: ... people wanted a Michael Graves building. |
ูู ุชุนุชุจุฑ ุฑุบุจุฉ ุงููุงุณ ุจู
ุจูู ุจูุจุงู ููููู
ุฉุ | Is that a curse, that people want a Bilbao building? |
ูุฑุงูู: ูุนู
. ุชูููุช ุงุชุตุงูุงุช | FG: Yeah. |
ู
ูุฐ ุฃู ุงูุชุชุญ ุจูุจุงู.. ู
ูุฐ ุญูุงูู ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ุฃู ุฎู
ุณุฉ ุณููุงุชุ ูุง ุฃุนูู
ุจุงูุถุจุท.. ููุงู ู
ูุง ุฃูุง ููุฑููุฒ ุชููููุง ุงุชุตุงูุงุช ุจุญูุงููุ ูุง ุฃุนูู
ุ ุฑุจู
ุง ูกู ู ูุฑุตุฉ ุนู
ู ุชูุฑูุจุงู ู
ู ุงูุตูู ูุงูุจุฑุงุฒูู ูุฃุฌุฒุงุก ู
ู ุฅุณุจุงููุง ุทุงูุจูู ู
ูุง ุจุฃู ูุฃุชู ููุนู
ู ุดูุฆุงู ู
ุดุงุจูุงู ูู
ุจูู ุจูุจุงู | Since Bilbao opened, which is now four, five years, both Krens and I have been called with at least 100 opportunities -- China, Brazil, other parts of Spain -- to come in and do the Bilbao effect. |
ููุฏ ูุงุจูุช ุจุนุถุงู ู
ู ูุคูุงุก ุงูู
ุชุตููู | And I've met with some of these people. |
ุนุงุฏุฉูุ ุฃูุง ุฃุฑูุถ ู
ุจุงุดุฑุฉู ูููู ุจุนุถูู
ูุงููุง ุฐุงุช ุฃุตูู ูุจุฏุง ุนูููู
ุญุณู ุงูููุฉ ููุงููุง ูุทูุจูู ุนูู ุงูุฃูู ุงุฌุชู
ุงุนุงู ุฃู ุงุฌุชู
ุงุนูู | Usually I say no right away, but some of them come with pedigree and they sound well-intentioned and they get you for at least one or two meetings. |
ูู ุฅุญุฏู ุงูู
ุฑุงุช ุณุงูุฑุช ุจุนูุฏุงู ุฅูู ู
ููุฉ ู
ุน ุงููุฑูู ูุฃู ูุงู ุงูู
ูุถูุน ูุดู
ู ุนูุฏุงู ู
ููุนุงู ุจุฃุฎุชุงู
ูุบูุฑูุง.. ุชุนูู
.. ุฃุฎุชุงู
ุฑุณู
ูุฉ ู
ู ุงูู
ุฏููุฉ ููุต ุนูู ุฃููู
ูุฑูุฏูููู ุฃู ุฃููู
ุจุนู
ู ุจูุงุก ุนูุฏ ุงูู
ุฑูุฃ | In one case, I flew all the way to Malaga with a team because the thing was signed with seals and various very official seals from the city, and that they wanted me to come and do a building in their port. |
ูุณุฃูุชูู
ู
ุง ููุน ุงูุจูุงุก ุงูุฐู ูุฑูุฏููู | I asked them what kind of building it was. |
ูุฃุฌุงุจููู "ุนูุฏู
ุง ุชุฃุชู ุฅูู ููุง ุณูุดุฑุญ ูู" ูุฅูู ุขุฎุฑู ู
ู ูุฐุง ุงูููุงู
| "When you get here we'll explain it." Blah, blah, blah. |
ูุฐุง ุฐูุจ ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ู
ูุง | So four of us went. |
ูุงุณุชูุจูููุง.. ูู ููุฏู ูุฎู
ูููุง ููุธุฑ ุฅูู ุงูุฎููุฌ ุนูุฏูุง ุฃุฎุฐููุง ุฅูู ุงูู
ูุงู ูู ูุงุฑุจ ูุฃุฑููุง ูู ุชูู ุงูู
ูุงุธุฑ ูู ุงูู
ููุงุก | And they took us -- they put us up in a great hotel and we were looking over the bay, and then they took us in a boat out in the water and showed us all these sights in the harbor. |
ูุงู ูู ู
ูุธุฑ ุฃุฌู
ู ู
ู ุงูุขุฎุฑ | Each one was more beautiful than the other. |
ุนูุฏูุงุ ููุง ุณูุญุถุฑ ุบุฏุงุกู ู
ุน ุงูุนู
ุฏุฉ ูููุง ุณูุญุถุฑ ุนุดุงุกู ู
ุน ุฃูู
ุงููุงุณ ูู ู
ููุฉ | And then we were going to have lunch with the mayor and we were going to have dinner with the most important people in Malaga. |
ููุจู ุฐูุงุจูุง ุฅูู ุงูุบุฏุงุก ู
ุน ุงูุนู
ุฏุฉ ุชูุฌููุง ุฅูู ู
ูุธู ุงูู
ููุงุก | Just before going to lunch with the mayor, we went to the harbor commissioner. |
ูุงู ููุงู ุทุงููุฉ ุจุทูู ูุฐู ุงูุณุฌุงุฏุฉ ููุงู ู
ูุธู ุงูู
ููุงุก ููุง ูููุช ุฃูุง ููุงุ ุซู
ุฑุฌุงูู ููุง | It was a table as long as this carpet and the harbor commissioner was here, and I was here, and my guys. |
ูู
ู ุซู
ุฌูุณูุง ูุดุฑุจูุง ุงูู
ุงุก ููุงู ูู ุดุฎุต ูุงุฏุฆ | We sat down, and we had a drink of water and everybody was quiet. |
ุซู
ูุธุฑ ุฅูู ุงูู
ูุธู ููุงู "ูุงูุขู ููู ุจุฅู
ูุงูู ู
ุณุงุนุฏุชู ุณูุฏ ุฌูุฑูุ" | And the guy looked at me and said, "Now what can I do for you, Mr. Gehry?" |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ูุง ุฅููู | RSW: Oh, my God. |
ูุฑุงูู: ูุฐุง ูููุช | FG: So, I got up. |
ูููุช ููุฑููู "ููุฎุฑุฌ ู
ู ููุง" | I said to my team, "Let's get out of here." |
ููููุง ูุฎุฑุฌูุง ู
ู ููุงู | We stood up, we walked out. |
ููุญููุง ุจูุง.. ูุญู ุจูุง ุงูุดุฎุต ุงูุฐู ุฃุชู ุจูุง ุฅูู ููุงู ููุงู ููุง "ุฃุชุนูู ุจุฃูู ูู ุชุญุถุฑ ุงูุบุฏุงุก ู
ุน ุงูุนู
ุฏุฉุ" | They followed -- the guy that dragged us there followed us and he said, "You mean you're not going to have lunch with the mayor?" |
ุฃุฌุจุชู "ููุง " | I said, "Nope." |
ููุงู "ูู ุชุญุถุฑ ุงูุนุดุงุก ุฃุจุฏุงูุ" | "You're not going to have dinner at all?" |
ูุงููุง ูุฏ ุฃุญุถุฑููุง ุฅูู ููุงู ููุท ููู ูุณุชุนุฌู ูุคูุงุก ุงููุงุณ.. ุชุนูู
ุ ููู ูุตูุน ู
ุดุฑูุนุงู | They just brought us there to hustle this group, you know, to create a project. |
ููุงุฌู ุงูุนุฏูุฏ ู
ู ูุฐู ุงูู
ูุงูู | And we get a lot of that. |
ููุญุณู ุงูุญุธูุ ูุฅููู ูุจูุฑ ูู ุงูุณู ูุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุชุณู
ุญ ูู ุจุฃู ุฃุนุชุฐุฑ ุจุณุจุจ ุนุฏู
ูุฏุฑุชู ุนูู ุงูุณูุฑ | Luckily, I'm old enough that I can complain I can't travel. |
ููุณ ูุฏู ุทุงุฆุฑุชู ุงูุฎุงุตุฉ ุญุชู ุงูุขู | I don't have my own plane yet. |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ุญุณูุงูุ ุณุฃุฎุชู
ุงูุฌูุณุฉ ุงูุขูุ ูุฃุฎุชู
ูุฐุง ุงูููุงุก ูุฃูู ุทุงู ูุซูุฑุงู | RSW: Well, I'm going to wind this up and wind up the meeting because it's been very long. |
ููุท ุฏุนูู ุฃููู ูุฐู ุงูููู
ุงุช | But let me just say a couple words. |
ูุฑุงูู: ูู ูู ุจููู ุดูุกุ | FG: Can I say something? |
ูู ุณุชุชุญุฏุซ ุนูู ุฃู
ุนููุ | Are you going to talk about me or you? |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ุงูุชุฑุงูุฉ ุชุธู ุฏุงุฆู
ุงู ุชุฑุงูุฉ! | RSW: Once a shit, always a shit! |
ูุฑุงูู: ูุฃููู ุฃุฑูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุญุตู ุนูู ุชุตููู ุงููููู ูู
ุง ูุญุตู ุนููู ุงูุฌู
ูุนุ ูุฐุง.. | FG: Because I want to get a standing ovation like everybody, so ... |
ุณุชุญุตู ุนููู! ุณุชุญุตู ุนููู! | RSW: You're going to get one! You're going to get one! |
ุฑูุชุดุงุฑุฏ: ุณุฃููู
ุจู ุจููุณู! | I'm going to make it for you! |
ูุฑุงูู: ูุงุ ูุง .. ุงูุชุธุฑ! | FG: No, no. Wait a minute! |
ุชุฎูููุง ูุถุงุก ุณุจุน ุณููุงุช ูู ู
ุนูุฏ ู
ุงุณุงุชุดูุณุชุณ ููุชูููููุฌูุง ูู
ุฎุชุจุฑุงุช ุงูุจุญูุซ ุ ููุท ูู
ุนุฑูุฉ ุงูู ููุงู. | Imagine spending seven years at MIT and research laboratories, only to find out that you're a performance artist. |
ุฃูุง ุฃูุถุง ู
ููุฏุณ ุจุฑู
ุฌูุงุช ุ ูุฃูุง ุฃุตูุน ุงููุซูุฑ ู
ู ุงูุฃููุงุน ุงูู
ุฎุชููุฉ ูููููู ุจุฅุณุชุฎุฏุงู
ุงููู
ุจููุชุฑ. | I'm also a software engineer, and I make lots of different kinds of art with the computer. |
ูุงุนุชูุฏ ุงู ุงูุดูุก ุงูุฑุฆูุณู ุงูุฐู ุฃูุง ู
ูุชู
ุจู ูู ู
ุญุงููุฉ ุงูุฌุงุฏ ูุณููุฉ ู ุฌุนู ุงููู
ุจููุชุฑ ูู ูุถุนูุฉ ุชุนุจูุฑ ุนู ุงูุดุฎุตูุฉ. | And I think the main thing that I'm interested in is trying to find a way of making the computer into a personal mode of expression. |
ููุซูุฑ ู
ููู
ุฃูุชู
ููุงู ูู
ุฑุคุณุงุก ู
ุงูุฑูู
ูุฏูุง ุ ูู
ุงููุฑูุณููุช ุ ูุจุทุฑููุฉ ุฃููุฆู ูู
ูุฏูู ุงูุทุฑูู ูู : ุงุนุชูุฏ ุงู ููุงู ููุฉ ุนุธูู
ุฉ ู
ุชุฌุงูุณุฉ ุฃู ุงูุจุฑุงู
ุฌ ุชููุฑุถ ุนูู ุงููุงุณ ูุชุญุฏ ู
ู ุทุฑููุฉ ุชูููุฑูู
ุญูู ู
ุง ูู ู
ู
ูู ุนูู ุงููู
ุจููุชุฑ. | And many of you out there are the heads of Macromedia and Microsoft, and in a way those are my bane: I think there's a great homogenizing force that software imposes on people and limits the way they think about what's possible on the computer. |
ุจุทุจูุนุฉ ุงูุญุงู ุ ุฃููุง ููุฉ ุนุธู
ู ุชุญุฑุฑ ุงูุทุงูุงุช ุงูุชู ุชุฌุนู ุงูุฃู
ุฑ ู
ู
ููุงูุ ุชุนุฑููู ุ ุงููุดุฑ ุ ูุงูุฎ...ุ ูุงูู
ุนุงููุฑ ุ ูููู
ุฌุฑุง. | Of course, it's also a great liberating force that makes possible, you know, publishing and so forth, and standards, and so on. |
ูููู ุุจุทุฑููุฉ ู
ุง ุุงููู
ุจููุชุฑ ูุฌุนู ู
ู ุงูู
ู
ูู ุฃูุซุฑ ู
ู ุฐูู ุจูุซูุฑ ู
ู
ุง ูุนุชูุฏ ู
ุนุธู
ุงููุงุณ ุ ูููู ูุฏ ูุงู ููุท ุญูู ู
ุญุงููุฉ ูุงูุฌุงุฏ ูุณููุฉ ุดุฎุตูุฉ ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู
ุงูุญุงุณูุจ ุ ูููุฐุง ุฃูุง ุฃูููุช ูุชุงุจุฉ ุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ููููุงู
ุจุฐูู. | But, in a way, the computer makes possible much more than what most people think, and my art has just been about trying to find a personal way of using the computer, and so I end up writing software to do that. |
ูุฑูุณ ูุฏ ุทูุจ ู
ูู ุงูููุงู
ุจุฃุฏุงุก ูุตูุฑ ุ ูููุฐุง ุณุฃุณุชููุฏ ู
ู ูุฐุง ุงูููุช -- ุฑุจู
ุง ุนุดุฑ ุฏูุงุฆู -- ููููุงู
ุจุฐูู ุ ููุฃู
ู ูู ุงูููุงูุฉ ุงู ูููู ูุฏููุง ููุท ูุญุธุฉ ูุฃุธูุฑ ููู
ุจุนุถ ู
ุดุงุฑูุนู ุงูุฃุฎุฑู ูู ุดูู ููุฏูู. | Chris has asked me to do a short performance, and so I'm going to take just this time -- maybe 10 minutes -- to do that, and hopefully at the end have just a moment to show you a couple of my other projects in video form. |
ุดูุฑุง ููู
. | Thank you. |
. ูุฏููุง ุญูุงูู ุฏูููุฉ ู
ุชุจููุฉ. | We've got about a minute left. |
ุงููู ุงุฑูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุนุฑุถ ู
ูุทุน ู
ู ู
ุดุฑูุน ุญุฏูุซ . | I'd just like to show a clip from a most recent project. |
ููุฏ ุฃุฏูุชู ู
ุน ุงุซููู ู
ู ุงูู
ุบููู ู
ุชุฎุตุตูู ูู ุตูุน ุฃุตูุงุช ุบุฑูุจุฉ ุจุฃููุงููู
. | I did a performance with two singers who specialize in making strange noises with their mouths. |
ููุฐุง ููุท ุฎุฑุฌ ูู ุณุจุชู
ุจุฑ ุงูู
ุงุถู ูู ุขุฑุณ ุฅูููุชุฑููููุง ุ ูุฑุฑูุง ุฐูู ูู ุงูููุชุฑุง. | And this just came off last September at ARS Electronica; we repeated it in England. |
ูุงูููุฑุฉ ูู ุฃู ุชุตูุฑ ููุงู
ูู
ุง ูุบูุงุฆูู
ุง ูุฑุงุฆูู
ุง ู
ุน ูุฌูุฏ ุดุงุดุฉ ูุจูุฑุฉ. | And the idea is to visualize their speech and song behind them with a large screen. |
ุงุนุชุฏูุง ุฑุคูุฉ ุงููู
ุจููุชุฑ ูู ูุธุงู
ุงูุชุชุจุน ู
ู ุฃุฌู ู
ุนุฑูุฉ ู
ูุงู ูุฌูุฏูู
ุง. | We used a computer vision tracking system in order to know where they were. |
ููุธุฑุง ูุฃููุง ูุนุฑู ุฃูู ุฑุคูุณูู
ุง ุ ููุฏููุง ู
ููุฑูููู ูุงุณููู ุนูููู
ุง ุงูุฐู ูุฌููุฒุงูุตูุช ุนุจุฑู ุ ูุญู ูุงุฏุฑูู ุนูู ุฎูู ุชุตูุฑุงุช ุงูุชู ุชุฑุชุจุท ุจุชู
ุงุณู ุดุฏูุฏ ู
ุน ู
ุง ููุนูููู ุจุฎุทุงุจูู
. | And since we know where their heads are, and we have a wireless mic on them that we're processing the sound from, we're able to create visualizations which are linked very tightly to what they're doing with their speech. |
ุณูู ูุฐุง ูุณุชุบุฑู ูุญู 30 ุซุงููุฉ ุฃู ูุญู ุฐูู. | This will take about 30 seconds or so. |
ุงูู ูุตูุนุ ููุน ู
ู ุุตูุช ุฎููุงู ุงูุฎุฏูุฏ. | He's making a, kind of, cheek-flapping sound. |
ุญุณูุงุ ูููู ุงู ูููู ุงููุง ููุณุช ูููุง ู
ู ูุฐุง ุงููุจูู ุ ูููู ูุฐุง ุฌุฒุก ู
ููุง. | Well, suffice it to say it's not all like that, but that's part of it. |
ุดูุฑุง ุฌุฒููุง. ููุงู ุฏุงุฆู
ุง ุงููุซูุฑ. | Thanks very much. There's always lots more. |
ููุฏ ุชุฌุงูุฒุช ุงูููุช ุูุฐุง ุฃุฑูุฏ ููุท ุฃู ุฃููู ููู
ูู
ูููู
ุ ุฅุฐุง ููุชู
ูู ูููููุฑู ุ ูู
ูููู
ุฃู ุชุชุญูููุง ู
ู ุนู
ูู ูู ุจููุงูู ููุชูู ุงูุงุณุจูุน ุงูู
ูุจู ุ ูุฃูุถุง ูู ู
ุนุฑุถ ุจุชููุฑู
ุฒ ุบุงููุฑูุง ูู ุชุดููุณู. | I'm overtime, so I just wanted to say you can, if you're in New York, you can check out my work at the Whitney Biennial next week, and also at Bitforms Gallery in Chelsea. |
ูู
ุน ุฐูู ุ ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃููู ูุฌุจ ุฃู ุฃุชุฑุฌู ู
ู ุงูู
ุณุฑุญุ ูุฐูู ุ ุดูุฑุง ุฌุฒููุง. | And with that, I think I should give up the stage, so, thank you so much. |
ุฃุญุจ ุฃู ุฃุชููู
ุงูููู
ุนู ุฃุซููู ู
ู ุฃูุจุฑ ุงูุชูุงุฑุงุช ุงูุฅุฌุชู
ุงุนูุฉ ูู ุงููุฑู ุงููุงุฏู
ูุฑุจู
ุง ูู ุงู10,000ุณูุฉ ุงููุงุฏู
ุฉ | I'd like to talk today about the two biggest social trends in the coming century, and perhaps in the next 10,000 years. |
ููููู ุฃุฑูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุจุฏุฃ ุญุฏูุซู ุนู ุงูุญุจ ุงูุฑูู
ุงูุณู ูุฃูู ู
ู ุขุฎุฑ ุงูุจุญูุซ ุงูุชู ูู
ุช ุจูุง. | But I want to start with my work on romantic love, because that's my most recent work. |
ูููุฏ ูู
ุช ู
ุน ุฒู
ูุงุฆู ุจุชุนุฑูุถ 32 ุดุฎุต ู
ู
ู ูุญุจูู ุจุฌููู ูุฃุดุนุฉ ุงูุฑููู ุงูู
ุบูุทูุณู ููู
ุฎ | What I and my colleagues did was put 32 people, who were madly in love, into a functional MRI brain scanner. |
17ู
ู
ู ูุงููุง ูููู
ูู ุจุงูุญุจ ุชู
ุณููุง ุจุญุจูู
ู 15ู
ู
ููู
ุชูุงุฒููุง ุนู ุญุจูู
| 17 who were madly in love and their love was accepted; and 15 who were madly in love and they had just been dumped. |
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