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A certain problem with the racial wealth gap - hhs https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/a-certain-problem-with-the-racial-wealth-gap ====== eesmith > Of course, there is a solution to this, sell the social housing to the poor > at whatever discount makes it financially viable for them to buy it. So ... repeat Thatcher's 1980 Housing Act? How'd that turn out again? [https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-14380936](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-14380936) Hmm. Not that good it seems.
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YouTube Moving to Open Formats? - dcawrey http://www.thechromesource.com/youtube-moving-to-open-formats/ ====== aurora72 I've just upgraded to FF3.5 and dailymotion.com was featured on the welcome page, I've checked the dailymotion.com and it was cool except one seemingly buggy video on the main gage (the one in which people are saying welcome to FF in their native languages) I must say,the results are very fine and promising, but I think the MOST important aspect of HTML 5 is not the end-results we see on web pages but the convenience it offers to the web app developers. I firmly believe that HTML 5 is the only way to go for the web developers. It's like the declaration of independence from abuse-prone and CPU-eater Flash applications, finally. ------ modeless Still hoping Google's acquisition of On2 means the VP* series of codecs is coming to HTML 5 royalty free. ------ danielrhodes The real question is: why? Besides being free of Flash, there aren't a lot of benefits that will result in a better end-user experience or competitive advantage. The only thing I could think of is trying to get away from H264, which could present some licensing issues at the end of the year. ~~~ aurora72 That's right: There will not be many benefits on the user experience side. But there will be a remarkable amount of benefit on the developer's side, I estimate. And it's not just the <video> I'm talking about. In the long run, the front-end as a whole will benefit greatly from the easy addibility of visual, audio and video elements into the web pages. It might offer competitive advantages to those who will make use of it efficiently. How many times have I heard that smart question: "hmm but can you make Flash apps?" Flash has been the only way to design the so called "rich Internet applications" and I've been rejecting to learn Flash for years with an expectation that something better would come up, and that thing has finally come up. JavaScript yes, ActionScript no, thanks. ~~~ danielrhodes Well yes and no. While you won't be locked into Flash, HTML5 still doesn't give you all the same benefits and features so you're stuck with a weird middle ground that benefits nobody. As a result, I think most developers will stick with Flash.
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“Free” as in “we own your IP” - 4mnt http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2014-05-17/free-as-in-we-own-your-ip.html ====== greenyoda _" The average person reads at 250 words per minute, and slower than that when reading and comprehending on-screen text. This was part of a 6082 word agreement, which would take at least 24 minutes to read."_ Is any court going to take seriously the assertion that clicking on "I agree" underneath a 6082 word agreement really establishes a binding contract to transfer intellectual property? Doesn't a contract require a "meeting of the minds"[1], i.e., _intent by both parties_ to enter into the contract? In this case, it would seem that the person who agrees to the TOS will have been tricked into accepting an unusual condition that's not generally part of such agreements. (If a delivery person asked you to sign to indicate receipt of a package, but buried in the fine print was a clause saying that you were transferring the title to your car to FedEx, would that be a valid contract?) [1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meeting_of_minds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meeting_of_minds) ~~~ chc The term you're looking for is "contracts of adhesion," and yes, courts do acknowledge the potential for unfair treatment there. (That isn't to say that they'd strike this particular clause — just that they do recognize and account for the power inequality inherent in this kind of contract.) ------ gameshot911 I'm not sure I understand what the fuss is all about. The language is included to avoid a situation where a user suggests an idea (that may or may not have already been planned / considered / in development), and then wants to get paid when the feature is eventually released. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. ~~~ dtech He has a problem with the _transfer_ of IP. He quotes a ToS clause from another company with grants a _perpetual free license_ to your idea, which he has no problem with. With the "transfer-style" clause you could submit an idea, an then be sued if you use your own idea yourself. That indeed seems strange. ------ misframer FYI, it looks like it's Datadog. [https://github.com/DataDog/dd- agent/blob/master/packaging/da...](https://github.com/DataDog/dd- agent/blob/master/packaging/datadog-agent/win32/install_files/license.txt) ~~~ kmfrk With line anchor: [https://github.com/DataDog/dd- agent/blob/master/packaging/da...](https://github.com/DataDog/dd- agent/blob/master/packaging/datadog- agent/win32/install_files/license.txt#L53). ~~~ judofyr Permalink in case they change it: [https://github.com/DataDog/dd- agent/blob/f911dd8955dd13aae1d...](https://github.com/DataDog/dd- agent/blob/f911dd8955dd13aae1da2a08a961d6a177eaa76d/packaging/datadog- agent/win32/install_files/license.txt#L53) ------ cs02rm0 Are there any resources for startups looking for a set of sane, standard T&Cs without forking out for a lawyer? ~~~ buro9 You can freely copy pretty much anyone's as legal documents are not covered by copyright. However, the problem there is that doing so may result you not having the protection you believe that the documents offer you. The false sense of security is now worse than just not having documents as you probably won't do anything to fix it and won't be aware of the risk. We've put our legal docs online: [https://github.com/microcosm- cc/legal](https://github.com/microcosm-cc/legal) Copy them if you want. They are for discussion forums, a community CMS service. Broadly they consider a site admin to be the owner of a database/collective work and has database rights, that an individual owns their content but grants a right to the site admin to include that content in the database/collective work into the future. They allow the end user to request deletion of their profile (but acknowledges the data that forms part of the collaborative work will remain). And they dissolve the platform of any liability arising from the content. They place some obligations on the site admin to reactively moderate and handle reported/flagged content within some reasonable (24-48 hours) amount of time, and includes a policy of automatic escalation and content removal (from public view) for flagged content that isn't handled by a site admin. It allows for monetisation via charging for services or referral fees. ~~~ aragot > You can freely copy pretty much anyone's as legal documents are not covered > by copyright. Can you really? Any reference? Personal answer: No, copying TOS for your own website infringes their lawyer's copyright. "Documents written by a lawyer are protected by copyright as much as the work of any other writer"[1] In the next season: Can we patent a particular way of protecting your website's legal rights ;) ? That would be great fun. We should patent the cease-and-desist letters, unfortunately there is far too much prior art on those... [1] [http://www2.mnbar.org/benchandbar/2007/apr07/drafting.htm](http://www2.mnbar.org/benchandbar/2007/apr07/drafting.htm) ~~~ buro9 Ah, you are correct for the US: [https://chillingeffects.org/copyright/faq.cgi#QID757](https://chillingeffects.org/copyright/faq.cgi#QID757) You can indeed use our documents though and I'll add a licence to the repo to make that clear (after speaking to the lawyers involved first to ensure the licence I choose is the right one). ------ scotty79 If I don't read the phrase "By clicking you agree..." am I still agreeing when I click? ~~~ loceng It's an interesting situation. It could be assumed that everyone sees that, and then perhaps not require proof that the person saw that statement. However if you apply that same logic it could easily be assumed people aren't actually reading the Terms, and so how could that be allowed to be binding? It is technically possible to have a time-check to see how long someone has spent on a Terms of Service page (if any at all), so there couldn't be the excuse that it is impossible otherwise. I suppose it would come down to a judge deciding who should be allotted more protection, and hopefully for the benefit of society. I imagine there must already be case law that says one way or another. ------ qwerta I just have two semesters of law at accountancy school , but I would recommend it to everyone. Similar paragraph is pretty much every where, including GMail in less strong form. ~~~ brendangregg The _transfer_ of IP Rights? From what I've seen it isn't everywhere - I've checked many performance monitoring agreements, and agreements of other software. Many performance monitoring companies require you give them a license to your ideas. But a few go further than that - and want to transfer the IP rights as well. Why go that extra step? Very successful monitoring companies haven't needed this. Ultimately, our lawyers said "no" to this clause. ~~~ qwerta This is from gmail license: When you upload ... you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use ... modify, create derivative work. The rights you grant ... are for... improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services .... ~~~ serge2k That's very different. I license Google to use my idea, it is still my idea. I can still do whatever else I want with it. If I transfer it then it belongs to Google now.
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Deep Learning for Fashion - jrbaldwin https://medium.com/@kipsearch/can-a-computer-understand-black-tie-vs-black-tie-fe9cbaf60b09 ====== Peroni Relevant: [http://developers.lyst.com/2015/07/10/ann/](http://developers.lyst.com/2015/07/10/ann/) ~~~ rachellaw Thanks! I'm curious to know how Lyst would handle outlier datapoints. ANN seems to be a variation of regression techniques (achieving nearest result) instead of creating a new mutual exclusion (unsupervised learning) ------ dang A blog post is not a Show HN. Please read the rules: [https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html](https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html)
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Quantum Computing Playground - ch0wn https://qcplayground.withgoogle.com ====== StavrosK I have no idea what's going on with this programming language. At all. ~~~ ivan_ah Me neither, but after playing with the 2D+Phase view it is starting to make sense to me now [see below for improvised mini tutorial]. I've studied quantum computing previously, but never thought about plotting the state space and visualizing it... very cool. Like all things programming, we all knew that sooner or later it was going to be done in the browser. A. Hilbert space // The quantum state of an eight-qubit register: VectorSize 8 // this defines a 256-dimenstional quantum states space: // a_0|0> + a_1|1> + a_2|2> + ... + a_255|255> // where a_i are complex coefficients // you can "see" these coefficients and thus "see" // quantum states in the 2D+Phase view. // The color/intensity of the bottom left corner // represents a_0 the bottom right corner is a_15 // and so on until top right corner a_255. // Note this 256 dimensional vector space is the "logical" // space we work in, while the "physical" space consists // of eight individual qubits addressed by zero-based index. // The arguments Quantum gates act on individual qubits // 0 = least significant qubit // 1 = // .. // 7 = most significant qubit // The qubit register is initialized to the all-zeros // qubits state: |00000000>, which means each of the // means a_0=1, and a_i=0 for all other i. B. Quantum gates // SigmaX(n) := 1 ⊗ ... ⊗ 1 ⊗ (|1><0| + |0><1|) ⊗ 1 ⊗ ... ⊗ 1 // \__8-n-1__/ \____n____/ // // the NOT gate "toggles" the n^th qubit in the register // while leaving all other qubits unchanged (1 = identity trans). // // Note that applying the operation on the physical qubits // allows us to address the large quantum state space. // For example, applying \sigma_X gates on the three // least significant qubits is written as: SigmaX 2 SigmaX 1 SigmaX 0 // this combination of operations transforms the sate // |00000000> to the the state |00000111>, which is // in the "logical" quantum space corresponds to having // prepared state with a_7=1 and all other a_i=0. // // There are other gates like the SigmaY, SigmaZ, and Hadamard [1] Okay so who cares? // well, it's kind of neat that you can access and compute // in such a large state space (see [2] for the def'n of ⊗) // sure it's difficult to interact with quantum systems // (state preparation and measurement), but damn the space // is big so it's worth checking out what kind of computing // you can do in there that you can't do with ordinary bits. // // An eight-bit classical register can represent any integer // between 0 and 255, a eight-qubit quantum register can // represent any state in the vector space \mathbb{C}^{256}. There are already several useful things you can do in the quantum world: // Then there are multi-qubit quantum gates. // The qubits on which they act are specified as a range // // QFT 0, 8 // totally written by pythonistas... [1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_gate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_gate) [2] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product) ~~~ StavrosK Ah, thank you for the explanation! It sounds like I (unsurprisingly) need to read a bit more about the theory before I can program in it. ------ IIAOPSW The interface needs work. Sadly we don't exist in the 2^n dimensions needed to really understand the state space so all representations will be clunky. It looks like the rows represent qubits and the colors represent phase. Maybe. I haven't quite figured it out either. ------ michaelsbradley I recently read a paper, published last year, which suggests that the qubit concept is problematic and that a different processing model is needed for quantum computing: _On The Fundamental Flaws of Qubit Concept for General Purpose Quantum Computing_ [http://www.ijesi.org/papers/Vol%283%2910/F031059070.pdf](http://www.ijesi.org/papers/Vol%283%2910/F031059070.pdf) See also: _Quantum computing circuits_ [http://www.google.com/patents/US20130057314](http://www.google.com/patents/US20130057314)
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Liwe: Using smartphones as WebApps controllers, without the pain - maxwellito http://liwe.co/ ====== maxwellito There a live demo available on [http://liwe.github.io/app-circular- menu](http://liwe.github.io/app-circular-menu) This project is still on beta and unstable but I would love to have developers to play with it and get their feedback and see what new features they would like. This is just a side project for me, under MIT license, but without users it has no reason to live.
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I've become what I wasn't supposed to be - zinssmeister https://medium.com/on-startups/b3cbf9a3a452 ====== colkassad I started as a painter working for my father at 16. Sometimes I would take a second job as a line cook as well. I loved computers since my first one (Atari 400) but I never thought anyone would ever pay me to work with them. At 27 I couldn't take sandblasting fuel tanks and flipping burgers anymore. I took a job as a data entry clerk for $6.50 an hour, worked my way up from there while teaching myself to program (after ten years I only now feel comfortable in my ability). I just finally finished a CS degree at 40. I see so many people here accomplishing so much at so young an age. Please don't take your skills and passion for granted. ------ adrianhoward Career plan by age: * <8: Astro|Cosmonaut (then I realised I wouldn't get in coz of health issues) * 8-14: Physicist/Engineer (Science! It rocks! But the family got a computer when I was 12 and - shit - this programming crap is fun..) * 14-19: Programmer (Wrote code that other people used. Wrote code that other people bought. This stuff is _still_ fun, but went to university at 18 - first one in my family to be able to so...) * 19--25: Academia (Shit - universities are _fun_. Full of smart, driven folk. Graduated at 21 and hung around as an employee while I figured out what I'd do my PhD in...Started digging into cog psych & HCI stuff as well as development. Then I figured out that I wasn't actually driven enough to focus on one subject for 3 years... and that the UK academic arena was falling into a mess of short term contract driven work... and my contract came to an end.. so... off to industry) * 25--29; CTO (Not that anybody called it CTO in those days. Joined one startup which crashed and burned. Second one didn't. Went from first "techie" employee to technical director in about four years. Then I was actually bright enough to realise I didn't really like / was-any-good-at managing people and that I didn't enjoy my job. So without waiting for shares to vest (still not sure whether this was a smart or a dumb move...) left to...) * 29-34: Consultant (Started own company. Had some great clients. Did some good work. Got better at managing people. Had some bad clients. Made some dumb decisions. Crashed and burned with a stack of personal debt. [hire accountants folk - they're worth their money].. which in one of those joyful acts of fate butted up against...) * 34-36 Carer (Family member became terminally ill and needed 24/7 care, so we kept him at home and out of hospice as long as possible) * 36-40 Senior Dev/UX person (Back to being an employee again. One agency. Two startups. Debt killing time. Started deliberately raising my profile with speaking, community involvement, writing, etc. coz I knew I wanted to get back to...) * 40--now Co-founder (Started company again. Making fewer and more interesting mistakes sprinkled among the odd smart decision. Bootstrapping some product ideas that we're funding with consulting work. Generally enjoying stuff...) Next - who knows ;-) (NOTE; If anybody still wants to let a fat 43 year old with no binocular depth perception and subject to migraines & misc. other nonsense be an astro|cosmonaut - please let me know ;-) ------ jroseattle I was on a path to becoming a professional golfer. I was a highly recruited player coming out of high school, and had full-ride scholarship offers from several schools. Went to college, majored in accounting & finance. And played golf -- lots of it. Played in national championships, competed abroad, surrounded by coaches who fine-tuned my swing and improved my game. Played with many guys who have been on the PGA tour at different points. I was on a path to the tour, as well. But it was unfulfilling, and I fell out of love with the sport. I took a job in finance and investing at a small bank in 1991. Working my way up from the bottom, I discovered a knack for technology by automating processes that had been done by hand for years. Never looked back. ------ thisone I started out at University studying astronautical engineering. 4 universities and 3 career changes later, I'm a relatively happy code monkey. (are code monkies every totally happy?) Things change. I'd say it's the very rare individual who gets through life on Plan A (or Plan B for that matter) ~~~ eksith I'm a _relatively_ happy codemonkey. I would have been happier as a carpenter, but we gotta play with the hand we've been dealt until opportunity knocks (and that may be plan E or F). I'm in the process of weaning myself away from the codemonkey and back to carpenter (soon cabin builder, hopefully). Life is funny sometimes. ~~~ FigBug I started in construction as a steel worker. One life altering injury later I retrained as a code monkey. Much happier, wish I did it first, I always was interested in computers. ~~~ eksith What can I say... grass is always greener eh? It sucks that you were injured, but maybe -- and hopefully -- it's added to your life experience in a positive way. For better or for worse, you are who you are because of your experiences. Good and bad. ------ ckarmann I have a PhD in Physics. 8 university years to eventually discover that I am not that interested in research for a living (and not that good at it), even though my speciality was great (Astrophysics). Ten years later, I'm a senior programmer with very interesting things to build, and passion doesn't fade. I don't regret having done all that Physics (it was freaking Astrophysics, dude!), but I know I would have been miserable after a while, not doing what I was really good at. ~~~ kaybe How did that happen? (similar situation, earlier in the game) ------ kiba I want to make video games so bad that I eventually learned programming. Programming is fun, but it's nothing like the passion that motivate people to stay up all night and day and code until they drop. However, my ability to program is the only thing that I am good at and had earned me money so far. Plus, I like it, even if I can't do 16 hours coding marathon. ~~~ zinssmeister wanting to make my own video games was probably a big motivator for me as well. ------ sdepablos I still remember how much did I ask for a computer until I finally get one at the age of 12, a 8086 IBM PS2! ------ mindcruzer I started coding in grade 9, but I went to university for medical science, got good grades, did some research, and intended to go to medical school. But, the closer I got to graduation, more and more I started to realize there was no way I was ever going back to school--I just wanted to code and make things. No regrets. ------ exodust I like the picture. Anyone know what town that is? I wonder if all those trees are private land or state forest. I think everyone should have a picture of themselves looking at the town they grew up in, especially if the town has a picturesque view! ------ bencxr Thanks for that. I'm still working in a "dotcom". Soon, I hope to be working with the likes of you. Could you go a little more into your transition from match.com to yc-startup, the sacrifices and challenges along your way? ~~~ zinssmeister that might make another blog post. Or if you have any specific questions, you can email me any time.
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The Steam Summer Sale has arrived - frankcaron http://store.steampowered.com Get in while the gettin&#x27;s good. ====== bargl I posted about this earlier today. Nobody seemed interested... [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6027665](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6027665)
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Does high tuition facilitate networking? - cwan http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2009/09/its_expensive_so_it_must_be_go.cfm ====== tokenadult The blog entry cited in the submitted article: [http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/us-news- college...](http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/us-news-college- rankings-yes-they-matter/) There is a freely readable version of the article discussed in the blog post here: [http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bastedo/papers/BowmanBastedo....](http://www- personal.umich.edu/~bastedo/papers/BowmanBastedo.ResHE2009.pdf) "Using admissions data for top-tier institutions from fall 1998 to fall 2005, we found that moving onto the front page of the U.S. News rankings provides a substantial boost in the following year’s admissions indicators for all institutions. In addition, the effect of moving up or down within the top tier has a strong impact on institutions ranked in the top 25, especially among national universities. In contrast, the admissions outcomes of liberal arts colleges--particularly those in the lower half of the top tier--were more strongly influenced by institutional prices." So high list price serves as a signal to some families that a second-rank college may be a better college than some other college with a similar rank, putting pressure on all colleges in that echelon to raise their list prices.
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Sellmicrosaas – marketplace for buying and selling projects - sellmicrosaas https://sellmicrosaas.com ====== sellmicrosaas Free to post your neglected projects, saas project, etc. Have a good day!
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Show HN: Yazz – Build Interactive Prototypes in Minutes - zubairq https://github.com/zubairq/yazz ====== zubairq We built Yazz as a quick way to build quick apps and prototypes internally. It is still a work in progress, but let us know what you think. It is free and open source, and the aim is to make it easy for anyone to get an interactive prototype of their app or website idea up fast, so that they can show it to others
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Q&A with Mike Kimelman: How prison changes you - ca98am79 http://www.cnbc.com/id/102623598 ====== delish [the interviewer asks why didn't he take the plea deal] > [Because] I didn't think I broke the law, and if I wasn't willing to stand > up and say that, how could I look my children in the eye and tell them with > a straight face they should stand up for the right thing, or the underdog, > as I try to teach them to do. This is why I don't moralize at other people ever, and why I think the law is a poor substitute for morality. I believe him when he says 1) that he didn't think he did anything wrong, and 2) that the choices in front of him looked different that how they looked to third-party observers. It's stupidly easy to tell someone, "You should have [taken the plea deal|not done that in the first place|...]." But I think people say those things to 1) distance themselves from their interlocutor and 2) say something that feels good to say, but is useless (not actionable at this point!), obvious dreck to hear. Of course I'm not faulting the interviewer for asking the questions in this case; the answers were enlightening. Marshall McLuhan had a great quote against moralizing: "Don't ask whether it is right or wrong. Instead try to figure out what is going on!" ------ Red_Tarsius I'm happy Kimelman got the best out of it. It's nice to read experiences that don't involve any kind of intimate assault. The system is designed not to _re_ habilitate, but to _de_ humanize the inmates, while guards often support the lowest forms of behavior.
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Marc Andreessen: The Truth About Venture Capitalists, Part 1 - brianmckenzie http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/06/the_truth_about.html ====== brett _Notably, there are many fine businesses in the world -- many of them highly profitable, and very satisfying to run -- that do not have leverage in their model that makes them suitable for venture capital investment._ This post is probably a good place to refer the periodic you're-foolish-if- you-think-you-need-outside-investment-because-you-can-do-it-on-your-own posts that crop up around here every week or so. ~~~ brianmckenzie Absolutely! If I took one thing from this post it's that there is no one-size- fits-all approach to funding. Can't wait for Part 2! ------ ced "The legal lifespan of the fund is usually 10 years" Does that mean that Sequoia will disappear in a couple of years, or is it that VCs manage various funds? And why is there that restriction? ~~~ pg A single VC firm runs multiple funds. Some raise a new one every year.
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MaxMind trademark trolling – they own “geoip”? - mitak https://imgur.com/PdJyosv ====== cheald [http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=tm&qt=sno&reel...](http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=tm&qt=sno&reel=&frame=&sno=78229697) Not trolling. That's their IP. I wouldn't fight that fight. ~~~ mitak Ah I see :( Doesn't everyone say "geoip" though? / how else would we describe such a service? I thought there was something against trademarking commonly used words that describe generic things. No plans to fight it. But it seems brutal... considering geoip.app is free/open-source/non-commercial, links to their site for those interested in licensing more accurate data, and "geoip" seems to be in use elsewhere (e.g. geoip.com). ~~~ cheald Everyone says "Google" to mean "do an internet search". It's still a registered trademark and you can't promote your own product using that name. The term "IP address geolocation" is common and descriptive enough, and isn't trademarked. The mark "GeoIP" is MaxMind's trademark for their particular IP geolocation service, and isn't something you can use just because you're familiar with the term, regardless of if the application is free/open source/whatever. While you likely mean well, MaxMind has a legal and practical obligation to defend their mark, which means issuing C&Ds for people who are using it without a license to do so. ~~~ mitak I agree from an ethical point of view and will change the domain. > Everyone says "Google" to mean "do an internet search". It's still a > registered trademark and you can't promote your own product using that name. You're right, but there are counterexamples. [I'm not a lawyer but...] There is such a thing as a "generic trademark" where former trademarks like "Escalator", "Thermos", "Hovercraft", "Videotape", "Teleprompter", "Aspirin" etc. have been "genericized". Apparently Google won their lawsuit because "Google" is a very distinctive word. For me "geoip" felt/sounded generic and I see a lot of geolocation plugins and services using the term in their names, descriptions, etc. ~~~ Terretta Very selective counter examples. The list of ‘nope, still protected’ is longer, including Kleenex and bubble wrap. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_generici...](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericized_trademarks) And contrary to Wikipedia, I think you’ll find only Thermos gets away with Thermos. The term geoip is certainly theirs. While we offered competing techniques built into our service, they were the first I heard use that. Then everyone subscribed their DB and called it that. ------ floatingatoll If I was MaxMind, I’d also be filing an ICANN trademark claim to takeover control of that domain from you. ~~~ alam2000 It takes longer time through ICANN. Ceast and desist is the cheaper and faster way. ~~~ floatingatoll Cease and desist does not result in control of GEOIP.APP, but is absolutely useful as a stopgap while the ICANN paperwork goes through. ------ Malp They do in fact own the term GeoIP ([http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi- bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=Ge...](http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi- bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=Geoip&Search_Code=TALL&PID=4cQjd5vOeUpvKwEgAdAu6nVdwEEFD&SEQ=20190102160730&CNT=25&HIST=1)), so it looks like renaming and migrating to a new domain name is your best option. ------ rajacombinator Seems pretty legit to me, ie. not simply “trolling” ... (IANAL) ------ erulabs Time for pioeg.com? This is a good idea, but I believe this service is also one of the things they charge for, and they do own the rights. Sorry mate :( ------ Operyl Hate to say it, but I wouldn't really consider this trolling. ------ piyh time to register geographicIP.app
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The Paper Elephant: Folded News from the Postgres Community [pdf] - atsaloli http://www.pgmag.org/_media/the_paper_elephant_01.pdf ====== atsaloli This little magazine (intended for physical distribution at IT events) has a great short article on what’s new in 9.6.
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Parents: Your Children Need Professors With Tenure - jakevoytko http://chronicle.com/article/Parents-Your-Children-Need/124776/ ====== wccrawford "Tenure doesn't guarantee that college teachers will be courageous. But it protects those who are." This is the only argument given in the whole article. That teachers should be allowed to be outrageous and disrespectful because that somehow makes them better teachers. There's a fine line to teaching kids to think critically and just being outrageous. Teachers without fear of crossing that line can do harm, too. The whole argument is that teachers -can- be fired for things. Not that they -will- be. Good schools don't fire teachers for teaching children to think. If a school is inclined to fire teachers for that, tenure is not going to solve the problem. Is a teacher going to lay low for 7 years and then suddenly start teaching children to think? No. They'll have been doing it all along. ~~~ jameskilton And this idea that "the 'deadwood' either retired or died years ago" is very false. I've met so many professors who were basically useless but couldn't be fired because they were tenured. Ignoring the vitriol that Fox News loves to vomit to its loyal sheep, the teaching profession for some reason has been allowed to act completely cut off from the market as a whole. There are so many very good teachers who simply can't get a job because of the tenure lock-in. If a teacher isn't doing his / her job, they should be fired and replaced! It works for the rest of the economy why shouldn't it work for the teaching of our children? ------ zdw I'd love to see data that proves that administrative bloat is the money drain on education institutions. Not that I doubt it - most of the workplaces I've seen are one or two fat cats sitting on top collecting big paychecks while a bunch of people doing actual work get a small fraction of what the top earner makes. I also tend to think that most of the repetitive administrative tasks can be replaced with small, well written scripts... ~~~ hga There's been quite a bit written on this; try these two Google searches for a start: [http://www.google.com/search?q=higher+education+bubble+admin...](http://www.google.com/search?q=higher+education+bubble+administrative+bloat) [http://www.google.com/search?q=higher+education+bubble+admin...](http://www.google.com/search?q=higher+education+bubble+administrative+costs) ------ jeffreymcmanus This reads like a refutation of Mark Taylor's "Crisis in Higher Education," a new book that holds tenure and the organization of academic departments largely responsible for the declining quality of American universities. The Fox News angle that the writer leads off with is a giant red herring. The problems with tenure have little to do with professors' politics (since employees already have laws protecting them based on their political beliefs). It has more to do with paying professors millions of dollars in salary and benefits for decades after their most productive years have ended. ------ Unseelie there's something off about suggesting tenure is about teaching, or that universities are about students. Tenure is about, more than teaching style, research, and primarily, actual teaching is left to grad students and teacher's aides.
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Massively improve JS animation smoothness in Safari with one line of CSS - alexkearns I thought I'd share this as it might be useful. Including the following CSS can massively improve the smoothness of JS animations in Safari desktop and mobile. It also solves weird flickering issues on iPad/iPhone Safari. Don't know why it works but it does and the improvements, at least for my web app, were spectacular.<p>html * { -webkit-backface-visibility: hidden; } ====== ryanschmidt When applied as suggested, this will cause smaller type (~10-12px) to appear very blurry. Also, when using an iOS device, it will make all text unreadably blurry upon zooming in. I suggest applying this property only to the element you'd like to improve the animation of. ------ alexkearns Actually, I don't think you need the *: html { -webkit-backface-visibility: hidden; } should do ------ gondo simple as googling <http://css-infos.net/property/-webkit-backface-visibility> ------ Kevindish What does it do? Im curious to know :) ~~~ cheald Short version: Backface culling. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back- face_culling>
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Hulu Plus now works with Chromecast - malcol http://googleblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/hulu-plus-now-works-with-chromecast.html ====== freehunter It still has the ridiculous limitation that some shows can only be watched on a computer and not on a mobile/dedicated device, right? I never understood that reasoning, why there are some shows that I have to pull out my laptop to view rather than using my Roku. ~~~ Touche Rights holders maintain control over where their content can be played. Hulu has to get permission for where a show can be played. There was a great post on Google+ a while back by someone well known... can't remember who that said exactly this: DRM is about control over hardware makers. EDIT: Ah, found it, Ian Hickson: [https://plus.google.com/107429617152575897589/posts/iPmatxBY...](https://plus.google.com/107429617152575897589/posts/iPmatxBYuj2) ~~~ grimtrigger Isn't that true of Netflix as well? Why is Netflix seemingly able to negotiate so much better than Hulu? ~~~ fpgeek Aside from their own projects, I don't think Netflix gets episodes from the current seasons of popular TV shows the way Hulu does. ------ Refefer This is excellent news for Chromecast owners. We've been hearing about pending support for Chromecast since it was first released but basically nothing had come of it. Give me a few more digital sources (I'm looking at you Amazon Prime) and I'll be one step closer to completely dumping cable tv. Anyone want to bet on the over/under for when HBO Go/Showtime Go will appear? I imagine it will be a bit of a shot across the bow to the traditional cable providers. ~~~ ericcholis I too am awaiting Amazon Prime to support Chromecast. Hopefully we'll see it sooner thanks to Hulu+ throwing it's hat into the ring. ~~~ konceptz I expect Amazon Prime to take longer due to it's existing Silverlight usage. It's so great that this little dongle can almost replace and in some cases exceed (youtube, et al.) my Roku. ------ bane I mean...okay. Casting a tab already sorta covered hulu on chromecast anyway. What really needs to happen is the final SDK needs to be released so the hundreds of apps that want to Chromecast can finally come out. ------ jevinskie Is there any way to run a different Linux distro on the Chromecast? Mine collects dust for the most part. At least it really is a great way to watch Youtube... ------ tocomment What about google tv? That's why I had to sell mine, no hulu support. ~~~ apendleton Public statements from the Google TV team have strongly implied that a subsequent GTV update will add support Chromecast's protocol, which, combined with this announcement, would get you Hulu Plus even though don't release a GTV-specific app. ------ beeglebug Has anyone heard any news on a UK release for the Chromecast?
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Why we will never see a 15-hour work week - fchollet http://www.sphere-engineering.com/blog/15-hour-work-week.html ====== ColinWright I saw this posted earlier. My records show it was here: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7661641](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7661641) Have you deleted and re-posted? _Edit: Indeed, I see it was you that posted it at 18:50 BST, 17:50 UTC. I guess you did delete it and re-submit. Any particular reason?_
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What Is The Origin of Cancer? - nova http://robbwolf.com/2013/09/19/origin-cancer/ ====== bitwize I think it's interesting that medical science is finally catching up to the traditional knowledge that diet is the cause of so much disease and illness. The "standard American diet" is standard because it is highly profitable to certain well-connected companies and associations, not for its health benefits; together with the research into the toxicity of fructose, this could spark a radical rethink of what it is we're eating and the consequences.
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Ask HN: How to compose two mapping functions into a third? - gruseom I'd like a good way to do the following, where "good" means some balance of simple and efficient.<p>I have a bunch of mapping functions. Each takes an integer interval [START,END] and a function FN to call once for each integer N in the interval, passing two arguments: N and some value computed from N.<p>For example, say MAP1 works this way, passing N and N+10 to the function provided:<p><pre><code> (defun map1 (fn start end) (loop for n from start to end do (funcall fn n (+ n 10)))) </code></pre> ...so if you gave MAP1 a function that printed out its arguments, you'd get this:<p><pre><code> (map1 (lambda (n val) (format t "~a ~a~%" n val)) 1 3) =&#62; 1 11 2 12 3 13 </code></pre> Now say MAP2 does the same, only instead of N+10 it passes N^2:<p><pre><code> (defun map2 (fn start end) (loop for n from start to end do (funcall fn n (expt n 2)))) (map2 (lambda (n val) (format t "~a ~a~%" n val)) 1 3) =&#62; 1 1 2 4 3 9 </code></pre> What I want is a way to make a new mapping function MAP3 that works the same way but composes the computations in MAP1 and MAP2. For simplicity, say I just want to add the values computed by MAP1 and MAP2. Then MAP3 should do this:<p><pre><code> (map3 (lambda (n val) (format t "~a ~a~%" n val)) 1 3) =&#62; 1 12 2 16 3 22 </code></pre> Any nice solutions? The rules are: (1) it's ok to modify the definition of "mapping function", as long as it's simple, and (2) I don't want to have to make a local copy of everything one of these functions does (because the intervals can be large).<p>Edit: A solution in Common Lisp would be nice, but I'm interested in good approaches to this in general. Perhaps coroutines? ====== nostrademons What you want is basically the compiler optimization called deforestation: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_>(computer_science) It's only valid in a pure language, and in a strict language, it has the embarassing side-effect that it can sometimes make non-terminating programs terminate. ~~~ silentbicycle Just a note: you need to quote the parens in the link like so: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_%28computer_scien...](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_%28computer_science%29) And no, I don't know why this isn't mentioned in the FAQ or (better yet) the formatting options... ~~~ flashgordon actually thanks guys for the great link... going deeper found this paper by Walder (one of the big gurus behind monads).. certainly a great read... was wondering why non-terminating progs would terminate till I read this paper (though thinking about it common sense would explain why)... [http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/papers/deforest/defores...](http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/papers/deforest/deforest.ps) ------ gruseom Thanks for the replies. Several have pointed out that the unique portions of map1 and map2 are simple functions that operate on scalars and are easily composable. However, this is not true of the actual problem I'm working on. I chose a toy example so I could describe it briefly. Unfortunately, it's misleadingly simple (rather obviously so, in retrospect). I guess I'll just add that it's essential that all of these be mapping functions (i.e. they take a functional argument that they call back over some range, passing a value computed using that range). ------ paulgb You could use lazy lists like (I think) Haskell uses: (define (lazy-range start end) ; create a lazy list that returns the next number in the range [start end] (if (= start end) (cons start '()) (cons start (delay (lazy-range (add1 start) end))))) (define (lazy-map fn lst) ; map a function to every element of a lazy list, returning a lazy list (if (empty? lst) '() (cons (fn (car lst)) (delay (lazy-map fn (force (cdr lst))))))) (define map1 (curry lazy-map (curry + 10))) ; equivalent to map1 from your example (define map2 (curry lazy-map (lambda (x) (expt x 2)))) ; equivalent to map2 from your example (define (lazy-list->list lazy) ; convert a lazy list to a list (for printing, etc) (if (empty? lazy) '() (cons (car lazy) (lazy-list->list (force (cdr lazy)))))) (lazy-list->list (map1 (map2 (lazy-range 1 10)))) ; example use Because the lists are lazy, the maps will only be applied as each value is actually needed, like you described. ~~~ gruseom Yes, I'm beginning to think the simple solution to this boils down to some flavor of coroutines/continuations/laziness - basically, the stuff that Scheme has that CL does not. The reason I find this interesting is that it's the first real problem I've run into where CL didn't have an easy way to do what I want. There are workarounds, of course. But it's interesting to run into a production (as opposed to academic) problem where the elegant solution isn't simply available. ~~~ simonb Have you tried (semi-standard) SERIES? <http://series.sourceforge.net> "A series is a data structure much like a sequence, with similar kinds of operations. The difference is that in many situations, operations on series may be composed functionally and yet execute iteratively, without the need to construct intermediate series values explicitly. In this manner, series provide both the clarity of a functional programming style and the efficiency of an iterative programming style." ~~~ gruseom No, I haven't tried it. In fact, I didn't know it was available open-source. Do you use it? If so, do you like it? ------ skenney26 Perhaps it would be simpler to pass the interval modifiers as functional arguments: (def mapr (f x y . fs) (let r (range x y) (map f r (apply map + (map [map _ r] fs))))) arc> (mapr (fn (x y) (prn x " " y)) 1 3 [+ _ 10]) 1 11 2 12 3 13 (1 2 3) arc> (mapr (fn (x y) (prn x " " y)) 1 3 [expt _ 2]) 1 1 2 4 3 9 (1 2 3) arc> (mapr (fn (x y) (prn x " " y)) 1 3 [+ _ 10] [expt _ 2]) 1 12 2 16 3 22 (1 2 3) ------ silentbicycle Abstract out the mapping itself, and then apply the composed transformation from map1 and map2 to it. map1 and map2 don't need to do any looping themselves, just work take an int and return an int. Think of it in terms of doing all of your transformations in one pass, if that helps. ------ elijahbuck I might be missing something here, but what about this (I didn't even attempt to run this)? Basically, just call map1 and map2 with a single-number interval, and then apply the function from map3 to that result. This avoids making a local copy, but does require a lot of function calls. (defun compmap (fn mapper1 mapper2 start end) (cond ((= start end) '()) (else (cons (fn start (+ (mapper1 start start) (mapper2 start start))) (compmap fn mapper1 mapper2 (+ start 1) end))))) ------ nadim www.stackoverflow.com (no offense) ------ qqq map1 and map2 repeat code. abstract this part to a general mapper function: (loop for n from start to end do then you will write the content of the first mapping as a function foo and call the general mapper and pass it foo to accomplish the same thing map1 does. same with map2, except baz instead of foo. then map3 is easy. call the general mapper again and pass in something like this: (lambda (x) (baz (foo x))) or actually it looks like you wanted to add the results, so (lambda (x) (+ (baz x) (foo x))) basically if you define the interesting part of map1 as one individual thing, and ditto for map2, then you can write the combination easily. i hope that's clear and didn't miss the point somehow.
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Skype encryption stumps German police - charzom http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071122/tc_nm/security_internet_germany_dc_3 ====== charzom Maybe the police can't, but I bet the German intelligence services can.
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What My User Survey Taught Me - stakent http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/02/07/what-my-user-survey-taught-me/ ====== tptacek We've been very happy with surveys at Matasano; we use Formspring, not Wufoo, we drive them from Twitter (ha! Patrick), incentivize them with posters and Matasano refrigerator magnets, and are using them to generate content. Every survey we do is good for a measurable number of new customer prospects. The thing I want to mention though is that if you're out of ideas for media relations, and you run a survey often enough with general enough questions, you can take the aggregate results of the survey and shop them to reporters for trend stories. It is one of the older PR tricks in the book. ------ patio11 This is a followup to a post I did on survey incentivization, covered on HN here: <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1058669> Short version: survey incentivization worked very, veeeeeeerrrry well for increasing response rates. The survey itself got me actionable insights, and when I say that, I mean I did eight commits today based on them. I'd really recommend you try one for your business if you haven't already. ~~~ cool-RR I appreciate that you said you aren't angry at people who complain that your product isn't given for free. I hate it when developers are angry at people who want their software to be free. ------ qjz "The sites that I advertise on do not optimize for their user experience because if their website is better than my textual ad, they don’t get paid." Eureka! Offer a free web-based product so lame that it drives visitors to click the ads of competitors. Even I can do that! ~~~ revorad Think plentyoffish.com. ------ paraschopra One aspect that I always worry about surveys is that there is tremendous self- selection when it comes to who chooses to send time taking the survey. I also have a survey put up at Visual Website Optimizer and never for once I got a negative feedback. That may be because the product is awesome but more likely it is because the users to choose to invest time answering the survey already like the product and want to pay back to me in terms of their time. What is more valuable to me is feedback from people who hated the product, but irked them and what can I fix. Getting those people to fill the survey is, not surprisingly, really hard. Patrick, what is your opinion on this? Do you worry about self-selection too? ~~~ patio11 Self selection worries me a little bit, but I try to focus my worrying on things I can change rather than things I cannot. I got a lot more helpful negative feedback by surveying users than I do by my typical approach of sitting by the email box waiting for someone to complain. That is enough reason to do the survey for me. Of course, test and measure to supplement the feedback people give you with data on what they actually do. If they say "DON'T CHANGE A THING!" and your data says only 5% of users come back, time to fix. ------ callmeed I just did a year-end customer survey. I used a Google spreadsheet/form. I considered incentivising it, but chose not too in the end. _"Incidentally, you might think that you’d get lower quality feedback from incentivized users. I did not get that impression from reading the results, but I can’t reduce that to a simple statistical measure."_ I'm curious what gave you that impression–just the fact that people seemed to give honest (i.e. good and bad) feedback? Also, I'm curious what you think about other incentives–like drawing names from participants and giving prizes? (for situations where you can't simply give free product) ~~~ patio11 _I'm curious what gave you that impression–just the fact that people seemed to give honest (i.e. good and bad) feedback?_ Folks answered the questions despite any technical requirement forcing them to, and many of the responses looked like they had thought put in them. (Of course, many users from both groups gave answers which were not triumphs of well-expressed English but it didn't seem like folks were mostly typing asdfasdfadf to get their freebie.) I like guaranteed prizes over random prizes because my experience e.g. in teaching is that surety is a powerful motivator/instructional tool. (Then again there is also the WoW model of random rewards over repeated interactions, but this is more of a one-off.)
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Underpaid at work? Here’s how to play salary catch-up - oshanz https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/underpaid-work-heres-how-play-salary-catch-up-abhigyan-chand ====== oshanz Quit and move on
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BeepEvery: An open-source website that beeps - darxius https://github.com/maxmackie/beepevery ====== darxius This was a weekend project and still needs some polishing. There are a couple of outstanding issues that I'll get to when I find the time. ------ jstanley What do you see as the applications of this? ~~~ darxius I outlined some uses in the readme.md on the repo. Basically serves to immediately timebox something for you. I originally made it to time my workouts. ~~~ jstanley Gotcha. Pretty neat :) ~~~ darxius Thanks, I appreciate it :)
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Why Conservatives are Happier Than Liberals - philco http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/opinion/sunday/conservatives-are-happier-and-extremists-are-happiest-of-all.html?_r=1 ====== Lockyy How do these studies identify conservatives vs. liberals? Surely your political ideology is a mish mash of lots of different views, often conflicting? People may identify as one vs. the other, but that doesn't honestly mean anything because those people haven't exactly evaluated every belief they have then compared it to the master list. I just don't understand this two slot approach to politics.
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Ask HN: How to find high quality workplaces for developers? - turboat While I have had a few great individual colleagues over the years, I&#x27;ve never worked with a great overall team or engineering department.<p>If you have successfully found a great workplace for you as an engineer, how did you do it?<p>For me, &quot;great&quot; means a team that consistently values quality, puts reasonable effort into application design and maintenance, and makes thoughtful decisions related to project goals and end-users.<p>I&#x27;m open-minded about specific technology choices. I do not expect people to work overtime, or to have exceptional passion for their jobs. I&#x27;m not demanding elite talent. Just that everyone is competent and makes an honest effort.<p>Have you used any concrete techniques to identify teams like that? ====== gregjor Teams like that are built and grown, not found according to some criteria. You’re asking about personalities and team dynamics, and company culture, which vary according to circumstances and over time. Companies tend to optimize for profit, not for the comfort of programmers. ~~~ turboat Do you believe then that it's impossible to identify a good situation until you take the job? There are no reliable job search tactics to select for better settings? I would say, for example, that a job interview helps provide a vibe for the current situation at a company. But it's not a perfect signal, and as an individual I can't go on that many interviews. Hence looking for other approaches people have tried. > Companies tend to optimize for profit, not for the comfort of programmers. I believe that's a separate issue from my question. Seeking profit doesn't force a company to hire incompetent or apathetic programmers. If anything it wastes money on salaries that don't deliver as many new product features to sell, or as many improvements that will increase customer retention. ~~~ gregjor Great teams should be visible because they produce great products or services, and because they have their pick of top people because word gets around. Big companies will have multiple teams, maybe hundreds at companies like Google and Apple. Some of those may be great to work with, others dysfunctional. Adding more people can push the “greatness” in any direction because interpersonal factors are first-order drivers of team productivity and job satisfaction. So it’s not impossible to identify candidate teams but I think it is impossible to predict how you might fit and what you can get out of it. I think word of mouth through referrals and contacts works best. Some companies have reputations for building good teams, others are known for dysfunction, but those generalization don’t necessarily predict what an individual will experience. Even Google has unhappy employees. ------ atmosx > For me, "great" means a team that consistently values quality, puts > reasonable effort into application design and maintenance, and makes > thoughtful decisions related to project goals and end-users. My 2 cents... I don't think it's about teams. IMO it's about company KPIs. Most industries value speed over everything else for a reason: survival. Nearly all companies use KPIs, take a look at the KPIs and you'll be able to spot which companies value quality over speed and vice-versa. The values you're looking for can be found in specific industries that cannot afford low quality. I'm thinking Aerospace, Health, Military etc. Keep in mind that on the flip-side these industries are very slow on "shiny new tech" adoption, for obvious reasons. You might not enjoy working with cobol :^) Another good fit could be software companies, especially in the security space like 1Password for example (no affiliation). By "software companies" I mean companies who's product _is_ software and not companies that are using software as _means_ to an _end_. The first group has much stronger incentives in delivering reliable software. Quality software can be found in many open source projects. The fact that the code is public increases the level scrutiny. HAProxy, SQLite, the Linux kernel and PostgreSQL come to mind as well known high quality open source projects. ------ codingdave > For me, "great" means... You've done the first step - defining what you want. But your definition is still quite objective. What attributes of a team can be observed when they "value quality". What is a "reasonable" effort, and how can you see whether or not they do it. Figure out some visible outcomes from those traits, and look for them during the interview process. Ask about those topics in the interview. There is so much talk on HN about what is wrong with interviews, but when they ask you if you have questions that is the part that is right - it is your opportunity to dig into these traits that make a team great, and determine whether or not any given team matches your desires. I recommend people break it down even farther - before you step into an interview, break those desires down in wants vs. needs. If you have a need they do not meet then the team is not for you. If you have wants they do not meet, you need to walk in accepting that it isn't perfect and either be compensated for those imperfections, or have enough authority and/or autonomy to try to invoke changes in the organization to improve it. ------ O_H_E If you don't know about this ([https://501manifesto.dev](https://501manifesto.dev)) you will like it. Looking up "9 to 5 developer" or 501 developer" on Google/hn to find blog posts and tweets, then moving ahead to connect with these people or look for places they recommend working at seems like a good idea. On another note: word of mouth and networking. I know it kinda sucks, information in people's minds is not indexable, but it is still a source of high quality information. ------ quickthrower2 I think you can do some things. Honesty at an interview might help - and by honesty I mean actually letting them know your weaknesses and dislikes - to get rejected for the wrong jobs increasing he chance of ending up at a good one. If you can kick ass at the technical tests the “I got fired because I refused to do 60h weeks” might be perfectly fine. Also it is mostly luck and teams can change in the 12 months it takes to even begin to understand the dynamics or get productive with code. It’s a hard human problem! ------ O_H_E Yesterday I found this list: [https://github.com/poteto/hiring-without- whiteboards](https://github.com/poteto/hiring-without-whiteboards) Although not exactly what you are asking, this interview behavior could be a reflection of internal values. ~~~ scott31 It is the opposite of what the OP is looking for. You can't have a high quality workplace with people who fail at basic algorithm questions ~~~ non-entity That's a pretty big jump to say anyone who works at a company that doesn't whiteboard "fails at basic algorithm questions" ------ probinso Small research companies or small contracting firms
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The Uncropped “Tank Man” Photograph from Tiananmen Square. June 4th 1989 - paulcarroty https://i.redd.it/kuadka7dpw131.png ====== air7 Wow, this gave me a nostalgic flash-back to my BBS days when I would download a JPG and watch it appear line by line on my screen.
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Someone finally found a fix for Chrome's anti-aliasing issues with text-shadow - coderdude http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4046142/google-chrome-text-shadow-rendering/4702984#4702984 ====== coderdude Chrome screws up text horribly in Windows when you use text-shadow. The text becomes thinner and harder to read. After a lot of searching I've found a guy who posted a fix that actually works. I tested it out on a layout I'm working on and it's like a godsend.
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Samsung responds to Apple’s FoundationDB acquisition by purchasing OrientDB - lvca http://www.orientechnologies.com/samsung-acquires-orient-technologies-ltd-company-behind-orientdb/ ====== terrywilcox April Fool's Day needs to be cancelled. ~~~ anonetal aah... maybe a little too subtle, especially for the TL;DR folks like me. ------ atonse I only realized this was an April Fools' day joke when they actually said "Samsung responds to Apple" in their press release. Good job but yeah I'm already tired of April Fools day jokes. The idea is to get hit by one or two. But the internet's made it so you get hit by 50 of them.
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Violin virtuoso plays in the subway, nobody notices [2007] - jpablo http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040401721.html ====== baddox Assuming I was headed to or from work with something of a schedule to keep to, I wouldn't stop. I have nothing against classical music or virtuoso violinists, but I'm just not actively into it. If there was someone handing out free tickets to see a famous violin virtuoso (but with the caveat that it was starting immediately and I had to head to the concert hall immediately), I also wouldn't go. This doesn't really say anything about people not liking or appreciating classical music, or even people's ability to recognize a skillful musician. ------ zipdog A video of the performance is here: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v...](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=myq8upzJDJc#t=17s) (A handful notice) As a test of whether the public at large can recognize quality musicianship (is the public uncultured, or is the diff between good to great musicians just not significant?) I think playing in the afternoon would have been a better time. ------ mhartl The author (Gene Weingarten) won a Pulitzer Prize for this story in 2008. [1] The movie linked in the article is good, but I wish they would release the complete recording. I'd love to see it. [1] <http://www.pulitzer.org/citation/2008-Feature-Writing> ------ dromey The lesson I draw from this is that this music, and more so its minor celebrity performers and instruments are just not relevant and fascinating to the commuters in the DC metro when they're trying to get to work. Even if they don't listen to classical music at all it doesn't mean they have no taste or should be looked down on. ------ gus_massa Please add [2007] to the title of the submission. The firs thing I thought is that I had read something like this before a few yeas ago.
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Introducing the B3 JIT compiler - basugasubaku https://webkit.org/blog/5852/introducing-the-b3-jit-compiler/ ====== munificent Really cool article. Posts like this always make me wonder what the state of the programming would be if browsers hadn't sucked up almost all of the world's compiler optimizers. ~~~ ajross To be fair, GPU vendors sucked up a ton too. But considering that optimized scalar code performance has moved, what, maybe 40% over the last two decades, I'm going to say "not much". Compilers are sexy, but they're very much a solved problem. If we were all forced to get by with the optimized performance we saw from GCC 2.7.2, I think we'd all survive. Most of us wouldn't even notice the change. ~~~ munificent > Compilers are sexy, but they're very much a solved problem. Not for all of the other widely-used languages that still have incredibly simple interpreters. Think how much energy could have been saved if Ruby, Python, and PHP were all as fast as your average JS engine. ~~~ VeejayRampay Exactly. Ruby would probably have massive adoption with JS-like speed. ~~~ chrisseaton My implementation of Ruby, JRuby+Truffle, is as fast as V8 [http://stefan-marr.de/downloads/crystal.html](http://stefan- marr.de/downloads/crystal.html) ~~~ pizlonator Note that usually being "as fast as" a production JSVM means also proving that you can start up as fast as JSVMs do. Have you done this? ~~~ ehsanu1 Search around for "Substrate VM". I see it referenced in some slide decks, and it's designed to make JVM startup much faster. Here's an old slidedeck that talks about it: [http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/jvmls2013wimmer-20140...](http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/jvmls2013wimmer-2014084.pdf) ~~~ ksec Wow thx for the reminder, I have forgotten about it already. I remember the promise of Truffle + Graal + Substrate VM. My god can't believe it was 3 years ago i read about it on HN. ------ cpr Good to see the Webkit team (mostly Apple) continue putting serious energy into JS performance. Take a bit of guts to throw out the whole LLVM layer in order to get compilation performance... It's also encouraging to see them opening up about future directions rather than just popping full-blown features from the head of Zeus every so often. (Not that they owe us anything... ;-) (Edit: it's also damned impressive for 2 people in 3-4 months.) ~~~ MrBuddyCasino Gutsy move indeed. Though I wonder, what was the development cost in real life cash for gaining those 5% of performance? ~~~ pizlonator 3 months. Two people working on it (me and @awfulben). ~~~ titzer Nice work, Fil. Looks cool. ~~~ pizlonator Thanks! :-) Looking forward to more write-ups about TurboFan! ------ legulere tl;dr: B3 will replace LLVM in the FTL JIT of webkit. LLVM isn't performing fast enough for JIT mainly because it's so memory hungry and misses optimisations that depend on javascript semantics. They got an around 5x compile time reduction and from 0% up to around 10% performance boost in general. ~~~ zepto Actually the bigger reason is compile time - better optimizations based on JavaScript semantics are a secondary advantage. ~~~ pizlonator I think that's mostly accurate, in the sense that we wouldn't have done this if it was _only_ motivated by specializing for JavaScript semantics. We had gotten pretty good at having our high-level compiler (DFG) burn away the JavaScript crazy and leave behind fairly tight code for LLVM to optimize. But as soon as we realized that we had such a huge compile time opportunity, of course we optimized the heck out of the new compiler for the kinds of things that we always wished LLVM could do - like very lightweight patchpoints and some opcodes that are an obvious nod for what dynamic languages want (ChillDiv, ChillMod, CheckAdd, CheckSub, CheckMul, etc). ~~~ dochtman But isn't it true that some of the things you ended up doing would make sense for LLVM, or would most of them be invalidated by the kinds of optimization passes that are common in LLVM? E.g. stuff like making the in-memory IR representation better cacheable certainly sounds like it's all-upside, and LLVM should just learn from your project. ~~~ pizlonator LLVM's use of a very rich (and hence not as memory efficient) IR is deeply rooted. Phases assume that given any value, you can trace your way to its uses, users, and owners. The LLVM code I've played with assumes this all over the place, so removing the use lists and owner links as B3 does would be super hard. B3 can do it because we started off that way. ------ alberth >> "tl;dr: B3 will replace LLVM in the FTL JIT of webkit. LLVM isn't performing fast enough for JIT mainly because it's so memory hungry and misses optimisations that depend on javascript semantics. They got an around 5x compile time reduction and from 0% up to around 10% performance boost in general." [1] Is this a knock on LLVM then? I wonder then specifically if this brings to light any concerns over Swift (another dynamic language, and was created by the same person who created LLVM as well). [2] Seems weird that the original creator of LLVM was able to make a dynamic language such as Swift - without any problems. [1] [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11105231](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11105231) [2] [http://nondot.org/sabre/](http://nondot.org/sabre/) ~~~ pizlonator Swift is not a dynamic language. It's statically typed. ~~~ klodolph This comment, and the parent comment, seem to be conflating "dynamic language" with "dynamically-typed language". ~~~ derefr What's a "dynamic language"? ~~~ barkingcat Dynamic languages are (generally) not compiled ahead of time. It is possible to have static typing in a dynamic language in the sense that the code is interpreted at runtime (but the types are set statically in the code), and there is no "binary" that one runs. It used to be called interpreted language or "scripting" language - but I think the vocabulary shifted so the word "dynamic" more encompasses what the languages are about. ~~~ gpderetta By that definition, AFAIK, Swift is neither a dynamic language nor dynamically typed. ~~~ barkingcat According to Apple itself, Swift is a compiled language, and there is no use of the word "dynamic" or "dynamic language" on Apple's website [https://developer.apple.com/swift/](https://developer.apple.com/swift/) As to whether it is dynamically or statically typed - it's easy to tell - do you need to indicate a variable is an int or a char or a string before you start using it? and do you have to cast the variable to different types when using functions that expect a certain type? If so - it's statically typed. Dynamically typed languages allows you to give an character "5" to a function that expects an integer (ie the number 5) and then automatically converts it so for example the final result to 5+"5" is int(10). Or when you try to print it, it gives you a string literal "1" and "0" without you having to recast it yourself. Obviously having dynamic typing makes things easier for humans, but the computer has to keep predicting what the programmer is going to do with that variable, so it has some runtime and compile time weaknesses in performance, memory usage, as well as less strictness in compile-time checking - which might allow certain types of errors to sneak by, whereas static typing is very direct - you have to instruct the computer to do every casting from one type to another, etc., and the statically-typed compiler is a sadist - it will fail all your code over and over again until you get all the types right. The difference is extremely noticeable even for a novice programmer. [https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Swift/...](https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Swift/Conceptual/Swift_Programming_Language/TheBasics.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40014097-CH5-ID322) says that Swift is "type-safe" (compiler is a sadist and will halt on all type errors) but has type inference so you don't have to explicitly indicate the typing of a variable. I would consider it to be heavily on the statically- typed side though - since it seems the language won't let an integer variable all of a sudden also be a string - you have to cast it properly first. Not sure where the confusion comes from, probably from people putting buzz words to everything that is new regardless of applicability. Either way, you are correct, swift is not "dynamically-typed" and neither is it a "dynamic/interpreted" language. ~~~ dragonwriter > As to whether it is dynamically or statically typed - it's easy to tell - do > you need to indicate a variable is an int or a char or a string before you > start using it? Modern statically typed languages often don't require this, because type inference, so its a bad test. > and do you have to cast the variable to different types when using functions > that expect a certain type? Modern statically-typed languages may not require you to do this (e.g., Scala if the types involved have appropriate implicit conversions defined.) > Dynamically typed languages allows you to give an character "5" to a > function that expects an integer (ie the number 5) and then automatically > converts it so for example the final result to 5+"5" is int(10). That's the canonical example of _weak_ typing; many (maybe most) dynamically- typed languages do not do this type of conversion. A better test for a dynamically-typed language is what kind of error is produced by sending a value of an unexpected tpe (including, as expected, anything that can be handled by the applicable implicit conversion rules) to a function: if it is a compile-time error, the language is statically typed. If it is a runtime error, it is a dynamic language. ------ jlebar It's worth noticing that most of the optimizations here are for "space" \-- reducing the working set size or the number of memory accesses. CPUs have gotten much faster than memory blah blah. This is the sort of thing where microbenchmarks may mislead you, because you WSS is probably not realistic. I think we don't have great tools for helping with this sort of optimization. One can use perf to find cache misses, but that doesn't necessarily tell the whole story, as you might blame some _other_ piece of code for causing a miss. Maybe I should try cachegrind again... ------ panic Cool stuff! Does anyone know why the geometric mean is used for averaging benchmark scores rather than the usual arithmetic mean? ~~~ jsnell I would say that geometric mean is the usual way of averaging benchmark scores. It has the property that a given relative speedup on a component benchmark always has the same effect on the aggregate score. With an arithmetic mean the component benchmarks with a longer runtime will dominate the aggregate. Normalizing the results before applying the arithmetic mean doesn't really help either -- the first X% improvement to a component benchmark would still be valued more than the second X% speedup. ------ DannyBee Interestingly, much of their complaints around pointer chasing, etc, are things LLVM plans on solving in the next 6-8 months. i'm a bit surprised they never bothered to email the mailing list and say "hey guys, any plans to resolve this" before going and doing all of this work. But building new JITs is fun and shiny, so ... ~~~ Joky LLVM instruction selection is _slow_ , there is a "fast-path" which hasn't received much attention (it is only used for -O0 in clang). The new instruction selector work just started and will take a couple of years, considering the tradeoff between spending 3 months on it and waiting a few years for LLVM to be improved (without any guarantee of LLVM reaching the same speed as what they did). See also some thoughts from a LLVM developer on optimizing for high-level languages: [http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm- dev/2016-February/09546...](http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm- dev/2016-February/095463.html) ~~~ DannyBee The problem with the path they've taken is it has a finite end. This is why, when they compare it to v8/etc, it's kind of funny. They all have the same curve. Basically all of these things, _all_ of them, end up with roughly the same deficiencies once you cherry pick the low hanging fruit[1], and then they stall out, and get replaced a few years later when someone decides thing X can't do the job, and they need to write a new one. None of them ever get to a truly good state. Rinse, wash, repeat. The only thing these things make _real_ progress, is by doing what LLVM did - someone works on it for years. Let me quote a former colleague at IBM - "there is no secret silver bullet to really good compilers, it's just a lot of long hard work". If you keep resetting that hard work every couple years, that seems ... silly. TL;DR If you really believe they've totally gotten everywhere they need to be in 3 months, i've got a bridge to sell you [1] For example, good loop vectorization and SLP vectorization is hard. ~~~ nadav256 Danny, you mentioned loop and SLP vectorization. One thing that bothered me while watching the development of the SLP and Loop vectorizers over the last two years was that developers who cared about SPEC added functionality that increased compile time. I remember one change that added a second phase that scans the entire IR in the SLP vectorizer to get a 1.4% win in one of the SPEC programs. I hoped the FTL project would be able to enable the vectorizers, but to my disappointment the vectorizers are too slow to justify the boost on javascript workloads. ------ ck2 tl;dr [https://webkit.org/blog-files/kraken.png](https://webkit.org/blog- files/kraken.png) [https://webkit.org/blog-files/octane.png](https://webkit.org/blog- files/octane.png) seriously though, dang, how many years of coding to get to that level of expertise ------ Ecco I'm really wondering about the politics behind all this. I mean both LLVM and WebKit are Apple projects (even though they're Open Source). So it would have been reasonable to expect an improvement of LLVM instead of ditching it altogether. ~~~ pcwalton I highly doubt there are any politics behind it. LLVM is an AOT C/C++ compiler at its core, and the tradeoffs it makes don't always make sense for dynamic, JIT compiled languages with extreme emphasis on compilation speed like JS. Personally, I expected this to happen.
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Ask HN: Review my app – Sbscribe, a social RSS feed reader (Google Reader alt) - OliverJAsh Hi everyone,<p>The people who use RSS today are power users. By the general user, Twitter is used as a replacement service for RSS by allowing people to follow websites. Twitter was not designed for this.<p>Briefly: Sbscribe is as easy to use as Twitter, but powered by RSS and tailored for discovering and sharing content in one interface.<p>https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;69376016<p>For all the content you currently discover and monitor using bookmarks, RSS feed readers like Google Reader, and social networks such as Twitter — Sbscribe offers the same experience, in one place.<p>This is an idea I had three years ago when I realised the value of socially curated news through platforms such as Twitter and Facebook. At the same time, I noticed my non-technical friends were &#x27;following&#x27; websites on Twitter. Sbscribe really aims to separate these two concerns — you follow people, and subscribe to websites. It has been in development since January.<p>I&#x27;m planning on launching a private alpha of Sbscribe in August some time (shortly followed by a public beta in October), and I&#x27;ve got a slew of ideas for how I can improve the &quot;subscription graph&quot;, as well as plans for a mobile web app. I&#x27;ve gotten to a point where I would really appreciate some feedback on improving the concept and UI. It&#x27;s also a good time to spread the message with the recent shutdown of Google Reader.<p>FYI: The service is backed by Node.js, MongoDB, and Redis, and on the front-end I am using Backbone.js and Marionette.js. It would also be great to talk with other developers familiar with this stack.<p>Oliver ====== bjtitus Looks great! A couple things: \- Instead of saying "subscribed" and "following" say "unsubscribe" and "unfollow" and change the colors (Twitter does it this way). That way I know what that button is going to do when I click on it. \- The top bar seems unnecessary except for search. If your avatar/username are linked to your profile, all of the buttons would be duplicates. Not saying that will work in the long run or be totally discoverable, but I think it could help. You could move the search box to the left hand pane or something if you got rid of the bar. ~~~ OliverJAsh Thanks. I'll take both of those into account :-) ------ roldie Looks great! I think you've found the right balance between RSS readers and Twitter. Just for clarity, Sbscribe is a self-contained social network? One follows someone else's Sbscribe profile, not their Twitter profile? ~~~ OliverJAsh Thank you! And yes, that's right. ------ mrtomahawk Any plans for adding tags for items which a user favorites, or could you talk a little about how the favorites work? Can I share my favorites? Are they public/private? ------ Ashuu Wonderful! I was looking for such a Google Reader alternative. Looks great too! ------ gr3yman I'm interested. Sign me up for the Alpha/Beta/whatever! ------ meerita Bet you bootstraped all the design. Looks fantastic. Is it 2.3.2? ~~~ OliverJAsh I didn't use Bootstrap, but I quite clearly took a lot of inspiration from Twitter. ~~~ meerita Wow. Why that? You could build around Bootstrap anyways without any harm. I got tired of doing a new framework each time I start a project. ------ TsiCClawOfLight wow, this looks amazing! If you need any more beta testers, I'd be glad to join in. ------ Ramario Looks very cool. Great design ------ benguild Cool
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Twitter stock drops below $20 for first time ever - eecsninja http://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-stock-drops-below-20-for-first-time-2016-1 ====== dylanhassinger "the 10,000 character effect"
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A note on "The worst programming interview question" - kghose http://kaushikghose.wordpress.com/2014/07/13/a-note-on-the-worst-programming-interview-question/ ====== dmaurath Like all interview questions, if they are not structured and scored, they're unreliable as predictive tools. I'm always amazed that data-driven companies ignore reliability and validity when hiring and evaluating performance. His reasoning for using puzzle questions may have been face valid, but there's no evidence that they're related to resilience (or anything else they're supposed to measure) and the little research that has been done has shown only a moderate relationship with cognitive ability([http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Chris_Sablynski/publicat...](http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Chris_Sablynski/publication/237711972_Puzzle_Interviews_What_Are_They_and_What_Do_They_Measure/file/e0b495294b759cfbd6.pdf)). I agree that a trial would be best if not for the lack of time. A good alternative is an assessment center, which is a structured simulation of the job. They're difficult and costly to develop but once they're complete they can be reused year to year.
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Please help Suicide hotline non profit - ammarkalim Hi, I belong to a developing nation, where we have almost no suicide hotlines. So i am thinking of starting a suicide hotline but I am facing some technical difficulties. I don't have a large budget to purchase Cisco unified communication system so i looking at something cheaper. This is what i am looking for :<p>1) People call to one unified number, a standard line number and it gets routed. 2) The calls should be routed to mobile numbers instead of landline numbers. This is a non profit venture which means that i can't employ people.So i want the calls get routed to mobile number of volunteers who are available at that time, despite their location.<p>I have figured out asterisk but i don't know if it is best solution for this. If it is, i don't know my way around that. So guys please advice me on this issue, you might end up saving someones life. ====== mryan I would recommend Asterisk. You can set up "hunt groups" so that Asterisk will try to route the call to one of your volunteers. However, you would need multiple phone lines, otherwise your callers will be greeted with a "busy" tone. In the UK, there is a company called AQL which will provide you with multiple distinct telephone numbers, all of which can be routed over the internet (via AIX) to your Asterisk box. This solves the "busy" problem, but it does involve some cost. Perhaps there is a similar telecoms company in Pakistan? If not, you will need to rent multiple phone lines, all of which will have to be physically connected to the Asterisk box. You will need two lines for each concurrent call you plan to handle - one for the incoming call, and one for the outgoing call to the volunteer's mobile. Keep in mind you will also need to pay for the calls _to_ your volunteers' mobile phones - if they have suitable internet connections then a SIP softphone (or Skype) would remove the cost of outgoing mobile calls. In fact, doing this via Skype could be quite effective - your Asterisk server would be aware of all of the volunteers' Skype accounts, and could route the call to whoever is online at the time someone calls. If no-one is online, it could route the call to someone's mobile (to ensure _someone_ always answers a call). AsteriskNOW has a graphical interface which will let you set up all of these features without needing to maually write dial plans: <http://www.asterisk.org/asterisknow/> My email is in my profile if you have any follow-up questions, or would like more detail. Good luck! I also second the other advice on: Affiliating yourself with an institution, ensuring all volunteers are suitably trained, and investigating any possible grants/funding from NGOs. ~~~ ammarkalim hey thank you so much for your advice. Actually i am thinking of moving away from landline to mobile routing, mainly because of cost and complications. I am planning to implement Asterisk,in my house, which i am planning to use as an office for volunteers. This Skype thing is really neat btw. AsteriskNow looks really what i need, but i will shoot you an email if i find my self a little lost while dealing with Asterisk. :) ------ dsplittgerber I would recommend you affiliate yourself with some kind of institution - like a University, a hospital or something like that. They may be able to provide you with an unused room or a landline. I don't know about perceptions in Pakistan, but you may have to consider keeping the support of that institution secret, that is having a different telephone number prefix than the institution that supports you. It's very difficult to get funding for starting Suicide hotlines. Also, it's very difficult to get adaquate training for the people manning the lines, which is _far more important_ than anything else. You do not want to get into a situation where you have a serious case and your telephone agent is not prepared. No, 'just' being a medical doctor or psych student does not prepare you for that. Do not rely on mobile phones, the connection may get dropped anytime. ~~~ ammarkalim Thank you so much for your adice...this is actually a really interesting perspective. I am thinking myself of affiliating my self with a university so that they can help me in providing training to volunteers. Yeah, i am thinking of eliminating mobiles phones from the whole scenario and focus completely on an internal PBX system. As for the funding, i hope that i can bank roll it myself...i am not so sure right now, but considering the increasing number of difficulties faced Pakistanis i think i need to start this as soon as possible. ------ rdl I would probably use asterisk and cellular fso/fsx interfaces (Ethernet sip gateways with gsm air interfaces on the otter side) to keep mobile calling costs down. In most countries calking mobile to mobile is cheaper than land to mobile. Optionally one per gsm network, it all depends on call volume. ------ holychiz uhh, wouldn't you also want a number of simultaneous incoming calls? I mean if you get your service up and running, get everybody memorize your phone number and then incoming calls are greeted w/ busy signals. That wouldn't be good for suicidal situations, right ? :) Google Voice is good for a single call but I don't know if it has call distribution. What you need sounds like a PBX w/ call hunt-group feature. I think there are grants and financial aids from Western non-profits and NGOs available for things like what you're proposing. perhaps you can post request for helps in those forums also. ------ jason_slack Google Voice? I use it for similar criteria... ~~~ jdp23 that's what leapt to mind for me also. is it available in this country? ~~~ ammarkalim no its not available in my country, i am from Pakistan. Other wise Google Voice would have been ideal. ~~~ jdp23 hmm ... not sure about the pricing, but could Twilio potentially help?
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Microsoft supports Epic in conflict with Apple - GamerNintendo https://nintendosmash.com/microsoft-supported-epic-in-conflict-with-apple-asking-not-to-delete-its-developer-accounts/ ====== anupamchugh They have to. Quite a number of Microsoft games use Epic Games' Unreal Engine. Even HoloLens ------ Gamermeme As i expected
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How to build a racing game - nej http://codeincomplete.com/posts/2012/6/22/javascript_racer/ ====== ANTSANTS Really cool related project: A re-implementation of the original OutRun engine in C++. <http://reassembler.blogspot.com/> [http://reassembler.blogspot.co.uk/p/cannonball-open- source-o...](http://reassembler.blogspot.co.uk/p/cannonball-open-source- outrun-engine.html) <https://github.com/djyt/cannonball> ------ sievert He says it's a simple demo and not a proper game but I found it a lot of fun! ~~~ watmough Me too, a lot of people made a lot of money in the 80's by doing ports to home computers that weren't this good. ~~~ jiggy2011 To be fair, programming games like this on an 80's computer would be much harder since you couldn't just do everything in a scripting language and not have to worry about CPU cycles. ------ arocks As the article mentions, there are very few tutorials on racing games on the web especially ones that use real 3D geometry calculations and not tricks like Mode 7. A big thanks to the author for the tutorial and an extremely enjoyable racing game on the browser! ------ cocoflunchy Ultraspeed version settings: [http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5382/080a8b4d79fa4842b495...](http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5382/080a8b4d79fa4842b4952ed.png) This game is 100x more fun to play than most of today's racing games... ------ jiggy2011 Two things that would improve it immensely. 1) Gamepad support , playing arcade style games on a keyboard is a second class experience at best. 2) Fullscreen mode. Brings back memories of playing old DOS driving games like the Lotus series. ------ shurcooL This brought back old memories. Back then I thought those games were so realistic. Imagine if there was Live for Speed back then, it would've blown my mind. Very nice level of polish. ------ hayksaakian I wish html5 games would at least be considerate of mobile devices. Some kind of virtual input at least. I can't be the only person using their internet on a phone. ~~~ dinkumthinkum You know this is like a tutorial/demo right? ~~~ hayksaakian I'd consider this a pretty high priority. Even for a demo. ~~~ purplelobster Not... really. ------ chopsui Reduce road width to get > 60 fps.
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EU official used colorful, simplified cue cards in trade meeting with Trump - mpweiher http://thehill.com/policy/finance/international-taxes/399042-eu-official-used-colorful-simplified-cue-cards-to-explain ====== growlist I guess these cards might also be useful to help see through a drunken haze. ~~~ s9w Comments (and articles) like this are a-ok, but even the slightest deviation from the ultra-left bias gets flagged or removed within minutes or hours. All while self-congratulatingly blasting against right-wing opinion bubbles? Okay then ~~~ majewsky I'm on the left side of the political spectrum, and I find it fascinating when right-wingers spot "ultra-left bias" in forums that I find balanced or right- leaning. ~~~ alliecat Yup. It does entertain me, especially as my own experience of HN is center- right at best. ~~~ mercer HN can be pretty schizophrenic. It often seems to switch depending on the topic, and topics where the various 'groups' collide can be very interesting (or frustrating). I like that kind of diversity as long as it doesn't lead to flamewars. ------ posting2fast They may be dumb or an asshole or wrong about X, but they're still your brother/sister. I don't mean Trump, I mean Americans, being a subset of humanity. At the very least, they're people you're better off working with in whatever common ground you have, than fighting endless and unwinnable battles about someone being stupid or ugly as a distraction from how badly things are, and how muddy and muddled the road forward is... it's really incredibly sad to see that nation so torn up. Not over nothing, but also not over anything that warrants _this_ , and the way it's treated. Just like Brexit, I get no joy from it. It just sucks, and instead of a growing opportunity, it's just used for more wounds. As if people really want it to get even worse; because whatever the lips say, that's what the hands are _doing_ says. How much has been _achieved_ by the eye rolling and talking _about_ "the other side" (no matter by whom and at what "side") since Trump was elected? What has been rationally been recognized as a problem, and what steps have been taken towards solutions? Where have people made an effort to hear others, instead of their bubble? I'm sure there are people outside the limelight who actually did do these things, but from what I see being surfaced most of the time, it's kind of a shit show. I'm sure it's a scene in a movie or ten, where parents have a real bad fight, but then realize that screaming at each other is something their kid should not see, because regardless of who is right, or who wins, or whatever, seeing them sink so low can do a whole other set of damage. This feels like that movie for me, for too long now. Be wary of things that are hard or impossible to come back from. I'm not one who gives a crap about badges or offices, but even I feel uneasy how the office of the President of the US is being damaged by this. I say by this, not just "by Trump". You have to think of the future, too. And by this I do not mean "no criticism", that is 100% not my point. Adults do have discussions, and they fight, but being demeaning about it is orthogonal to that and not good ever, in no context. And also no matter how wrong or dumb or how much of an asshole someone is. Actually: The more they are, the more you should "win", and the more important it is for that to be clean and fair, and for that to allow them a route to "join the win" by actually coming around from their own volition and voluntary insight. I'm not American, I never was in America and there has been no president during my lifetime I _really_ liked. I could not care, but I do. Because " _any man 's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind_" as John Donne wrote, and this can't go on. You are better than this, all of you. Roughly speaking, "you" _invented_ being better at this, ffs. So take care, of yourself and each other, and as in _actually_ do that. Please. Sorry for it being so jumbled, not sorry for ranting... I adamantly believe in the importance of this thing I don't know how to put well. ~~~ plaidfuji Hacker News is a welcome respite from traditional American news sources whose sole purpose today is wall-to-wall Trump coverage. Leave it to HN commenters to find a long-term thoughtful and productive point of view when a Trump story finally does make it up through the ranks. I know when you say "brother/sister" you're talking in the abstract, but the problem is that intra-familial political divides are increasingly uncommon, I.e. Trump voters are unlikely to even be my third cousin. A recent precinct- by-precinct 2016 election map published by the NYT showed that it's likely I'd have to drive up to 30 miles to find a precinct that swung the other way, so they're not my neighbor either. Major protests, which remain one of the more productive tools of political communication because they require actual human effort, happen in large cities and end up preaching to the choir, effectively. The "Other Side" receives news of the worst elements of these protests in coverage designed to make them angry, /because that's what news coverage today is designed to do/. People read the news to get mad about something. They click on the story that's likely to have the juiciest arguments. And it's not the media's fault - yes they choose what to publish, but they have to maximize profits and therefore clicks. I think what people don't get, or keep forgetting or whatever, is that Trump won because of the Midwest. Yes, he carried a bunch of traditional red states that were going to vote for him anyway. But he won because he convinced swaths of workers in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania that he would fight harder to keep their jobs around than his opponent. And he's basically stuck to that promise, whether or not what he's doing will actually help them in the long term, or if he even understands the basic tenets of global trade (as this article seems to insinuate he doesn't). These are the people who are being alienated by Democrats' efforts to unseat Trump at any cost, instead of pushing their own solution to the changing economic environment. What they'll likely say in 2020 is "so he's racist and sexist- but I still have a better chance with him than you." As much as I'm nervous about the country being run by somebody who appears to be incompetent, ego-driven and lacking long-term strategy, I'm more nervous about what the left's candidate will be in 2024. In other words, if Trump is the response to 8 years of Obama, what will the response to 8 years of Trump look like? Not sure where this is going so I'm gonna stop. ~~~ candiodari > I know when you say "brother/sister" you're talking in the abstract, but the > problem is that intra-familial political divides are increasingly uncommon, > I.e. Trump voters are unlikely to even be my third cousin. A recent > precinct-by-precinct 2016 election map published by the NYT showed that it's > likely I'd have to drive up to 30 miles to find a precinct that swung the > other way, so they're not my neighbor either. In the vast majority of districts, even in California, Trump scored ~32% on average. That means, minimum he scored ~13% (ie. 1 in 8 voters), average 32%, and up to 80%. The above statement is bullshit. In your immediate environment, at the very least 13% of people voted for Trump, and very likely more. The odds that you don't know, have as a neighbor, or are family to one of them, seem very remote indeed. That anyone in California (who would like to remain there) lies about their political preference ... seems a much, MUCH more likely explanation. So, the real situation (again, with overwhelming likelihood), is 1) If you take the 8 houses around yours, one voted for Trump, absolute minimum. More likely 3 (in California, which would be the minimum). Out of your family, 1 in 8 voted for Trump, minimum (given that it will be skewed to the older ones, lets say, one of your parents, two of your grandparents seems a good guess). 2) These people clearly feel that you would react unreasonably if you found out, and that's why you don't know. Given how you describe Trump voters, I can certainly see why they feel this way. But of course, I get that it's very comforting for you to think like this, even if it's extremely unlikely to be true. By the way, wasn't the whole point of Democrat values that people can have whatever political views they want, and you should support them regardless ? ------ docdeek I know this is meant to feed into the whole ‘Trump is an idiot’ meme but is it really that unusual? My CEO doesn’t have the time to read a half dozen 100 page reports - he wants a two-page memo; he doesn’t want a 200 slide deck, he wants me to report the essentials on a couple of slides. Key points, summaries, icons, top-line and bottom-line numbers - seems pretty normal for briefing someone with a lot on their plate. ~~~ smadge I feel like my expectations for a president have been unrealistically set by the TV show the West Wing where president Bartlett is often staying up until 3am reading hundreds of pages of policy reports, not getting into Twitter fueds and refusing to read anything handed to him. ~~~ growlist Reagan took a pretty relaxed approach by all accounts.
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Deku: How we built our functional alternative to React - gwintrob https://segment.com/blog/deku-our-functional-alternative-to-react/ ====== DigitalSea Great work guys, but correct me if I am wrong but it seems the reasons you decided to build Deku (if I am understanding what you have written) did not seem to be anything other than you were not a fan of how React doesn't take a completely functional approach to building components. Is that an appropriate assumption to make based on what you have written in your article? I feel a little disappointed to be honest. Because as I was reading, I was expecting to read that you somehow had created a dom-diffing algorithm and matching library that was more performant than React.js, but really it just came down to the fact you didn't like how React.js looks. I was rooting for you from the beginning, expecting to see someone had created something superior to the much hyped React, but it didn't happen. I don't want to hate on what you've done, looking through the code reveals that you put some considerable effort into Deku, but it makes me wonder if that effort could have been spent on perhaps learning the inner-workings of React.js and adapting it to your needs in its own fork. But having said that, Deku to me only has a few slight differences to React.js, the way components are built in Deku in comparison to React.js doesn't appear to be that dramatically different. I don't want this comment to come across as yet another cynical HN commenter, but I just cannot see anything comprehensively different to existing solutions. I hate seeing talented development hours going to waste that could have been used to make an already existing project better. ~~~ jeswin > Deku to me only has a few slight differences to React.js This framework is genuinely different from React in how you use it. I know several JS programmers who prefer functional style, yet choose to incorporate React-style classes because React is really good at what it does. This gives them an alternative. The components built with Deku will be different in programming style. And that's really, really significant. ~~~ fiatjaf [https://github.com/Matt-Esch/virtual-dom/](https://github.com/Matt- Esch/virtual-dom/) ~~~ malandrew virtual-dom is excellent. Also check out mercury: [https://github.com/Raynos/mercury](https://github.com/Raynos/mercury) Or better yet, fork mercury and modify the index.js file and package.json. It's a bunch of libraries masquarading as a framework (which is awesome because it means it's modular instead of monolithic) ~~~ fiatjaf What do you say about [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9529457](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9529457)? ------ jeswin Excellent work. I just went through the source code; lean and neat. I am going to offer this as an alternative to React in something I'm building. To the new-to-JS programmers out here, I'd recommend waiting until a framework reaches a certain level of maturity. React is not just about the core library itself, it is also about the tooling and ecosystem. For example, you can use React dev tools in Chrome. You are more likely to find how-tos and documentation if you're using React. React Native might help with sharing code if native mobile is in your plans. Like the documentation says, what this framework really gives you is the ability to skip the OO-style coding that React mandates, and use just functions and modules. ------ fiatjaf > So we looked for smaller alternatives, like virtual-dom and mercury. The > documentation for virtual-dom was slim and we didn’t think the API for > mercury was very user friendly. Really? You found that it was better to write everything from scratch instead of modifying mercury for your use (thus making use of the very good virtual- dom library)? Do you know that the whole mercury source code[1] is only 126 lines of code? Perhaps you should also know that your library usage examples, in the end, look just like mercury usage examples. [1]: [https://github.com/Raynos/mercury/blob/master/index.js](https://github.com/Raynos/mercury/blob/master/index.js) ~~~ jaltekruse I think that you are pointing at the wrong file, it looks like the library is actually around 4k lines. The point may still be valid, but it was not a trivial codebase to fork and they seem to have some architectural goals that they didn't think any of the current libraries were well suited to work with. [https://github.com/Raynos/mercury/blob/master/dist/mercury.j...](https://github.com/Raynos/mercury/blob/master/dist/mercury.js) ~~~ darklajid Stumbled upon this [1] in their Readme: _mercury is lean, it 's an weekend's read at 2.5kloc. (virtual-dom is 1.1kloc, an evening's read.)_ 1: [https://github.com/Raynos/mercury](https://github.com/Raynos/mercury) ~~~ tel Having attempted to read virtual-dom several times I highly disagree with it being an "evening's read". It is highly complex, idiosyncratic, has a number of difficult to grok internal conventions, and at least a few large algorithms with next to no documentation. I think a lot of people deservedly like it's API, but it is far from an easy read. ------ jefftchan What about Ripple.js [1] [2], which Segment also released ~1 year ago? Is that dead now? [1] [https://ripplejs.github.io](https://ripplejs.github.io) [2] [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609816](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609816) ~~~ anthonyshort We're still using it on some of our projects, but we've found that no matter how simple we make data-binding it still leads to a mess of event bindings and state management. The original plan was to make a virtual dom plugin for ripple but it wasn't really possible with the way the worked behind the scenes. ~~~ TheHippo Last commit: Jul 30, 2014 ------ kansface | It’s also a lot of fun The only cogent reason offered for writing yet another front end framework ... ~~~ calcsam Proposed new shorthand: YAJF ~~~ mofle YAFS - Yet Another Framework Syndrome. [https://medium.com/@tastejs/yet-another-framework- syndrome-y...](https://medium.com/@tastejs/yet-another-framework-syndrome- yafs-cf5f694ee070) ------ dustingetz How is this more "functional" than react? What do you mean by "functional"? I write clojurescript for a living and I don't get it. ~~~ platz It's an interesting question that I also had. After reading through, apparently "functional" means "no concept of classes or use of this." ------ Meai Those were exactlY my grievances with react as well i was practically hoping somebody builds a smaller sane version of react. It could be cool if this would use html / shadowdom components instead of jsx, but i havent checked out the src yet (is there a link?) ------ droidist2 Cool. Are you going to make a Deku Native for mobile development? ------ nwmcsween This seems very much like mercuryjs except less modular as per a quick glance. What are the differences between mercuryjs and deku besides the need to compile-to-dom in deku? ~~~ Touche They didn't invent mercury. ------ davexunit I really dislike JSX. Mixing HTML and JS is not elegant at all. Why is it so popular now? ~~~ sls I reflexively dislike the notion, but am trying to consider it with an open mind. The notion that a subtree of the DOM and some JavaScript that manipulates it, designed together to create a single functional component, represent a single concern and should be packaged together, is not unreasonable. I think it is very different than the spaghetti pages found in jsps and php pages of yore, and the emphasis on component is a big part of why. ~~~ visarga I took the same route - instead of trying to keep HTML in one place, JS in another, CSS in another I made separate files for each component including all the necessary HTML, JS and CSS in one file. It makes more sense because I write them together and debug them together. Also, I don't need to find where are the CSS selectors in a huge monolithic CSS file, or the same about JS functions. I don't let a component become too complex, so the 1 file/component ratio is just right. ------ k__ How does it compare to Mithril? [http://mithril.js.org/](http://mithril.js.org/) ------ tel Here's a draft d.ts file for anyone who'd consider using this with TypeScript (like I would). [https://gist.github.com/tel/a4b0980db350096afd53](https://gist.github.com/tel/a4b0980db350096afd53) ------ coldcode What language are those examples in? export let Button = { render({props, state}) { return <button>{props.text}</button> } } ~~~ johnernaut ES6 ------ fiatjaf You should use monospace fonts in your code samples. ~~~ hereonbusiness This was bugging me too, they are trying to but it's probably only working on OSX machines since they're using {font-family:'menlo'} without a fallback, so if the font is not available the code is rendered using Times New Roman instead, at least on Chrome. ~~~ spinningarrow That is really lazy: the least that could've been done is {font-family: menlo, monospace}! ------ dukerutledge Meh, I'd rather work with objects that enforce immutability and model monadic sequencing than this sea of continuation passing. ~~~ ryanisinallofus I think there are times for both but I agree with you. I'm pretty much only interested in Multi paradigm languages at this point and after much consternation I'm pretty stoked about the es6 moves and hope JS continues to support all the ways to program things. Immutability and lazy eval are both really well implemented with OOP interfaces even though I consider both functional concepts. I read this recently: semantics != syntax. ------ e12e I wonder if they looked at riotjs[1] as an alternative. Deku is at ~10k, riotjs is at ~4k. They both seem to have similar goals: no legacy support, decent api, decent performance. [1] [https://github.com/muut/riotjs](https://github.com/muut/riotjs) ~~~ e12e Hm, I suppose if they wanted to avoid _this_ (which makes sense), riotjs might not be a good fit. Eg: [https://github.com/muut/riotjs/blob/master/demo/todo.js](https://github.com/muut/riotjs/blob/master/demo/todo.js) vs [https://github.com/segmentio/deku/blob/master/examples/todo/...](https://github.com/segmentio/deku/blob/master/examples/todo/todo.js) Does look like riotjs might be re-factored in some interesting ways, if they move it to ES6 though. ~~~ insin That's the compiled version - this is the source for the Riot example: [https://github.com/muut/riotjs/blob/master/demo/todo.tag](https://github.com/muut/riotjs/blob/master/demo/todo.tag) ------ tel I'm curious about the decision to elide the synthetic event system. Does Segment only target modern browsers? What is the compatibility delta on including or eliding synthetic events? ------ _pmf_ React is a one trick pony. If the DOM is not the bottleneck for your application, React has zero advantages over any bread and butter MVC framework. ------ ConAntonakos Congratulations! I think it's good to have competing options.
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LyfeLens – Drop Cam for your Car (and then some) - _AllenStone https://www.lyfelens.com ====== jack-r-abbit From the FAQ: Q: Does LyfeLens have a subscription service? A: While LyfeLens will provide superior functionality as a dash cam without a subscription plan, the full LyfeLens experience requires a subscription. The subscription activates the 4G LTE connection and the web portal, which are necessary to support push notifications, WiFi hotspot, automatic cloud storage, live video feeds, and speed and location monitoring. So, without the subscription it is just a dash cam. But they don't have any info on subscription price. I don't have a problem dropping $200 on a device like this with the _full LyfeLens experience_. I don't have a problem paying a subscription fee. But I'm not going anywhere near a device that basically requires a monthly/yearly fee to make it more than just a dash cam... but isn't upfront about the price. ~~~ _AllenStone Good feedback. The subscription details aren't listed because carrier negotiations are still taking place to get the lowest possible price. It will likely be between $19-29/mo, depending on how much you plan to use the hotspot feature. ~~~ jack-r-abbit Fair enough. Assuming it is technically possible, I would suggest having a lower tier plan for people that don't want/need a hotspot in their car but still want all the other cam related functions. I certainly don't need another connected device in my car to stream music and movies. But I would want the camera to be able to connect out and do all that other stuff. It does look like a nice device. Wish I had one last week when someone keyed my car. :(
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Ask HN: Mac or Linux based laptop for development - mraza007 I’m coming from linux world but after using macbook for 3 months I’m tempted to buy a macbook buy they are pricey and at the same time I don’t wanna leave the Linux ecosystem ====== dividedbyzero It totally depends on what kind of development work you want to do. Windows apps? Then get a Surface Pro or the like. iOS or native macOS apps? Get a Macbook. Web development? It doesn't matter as long as you're comfortable using the respective OS (macOS or Linux). Data science? If you plan on using the built-in GPU for machine learning, don't get a Macbook. The 16" ones have AMD GPUs that aren't well-supported for ML, everything below has Intel GPUs which, while plenty powerful for day-to- day usage, aren't usable for ML. Get a Thinkpad or Dell with a Nvidia GPU and an Intel GPU, so you can use the dedicated GPU for ML exclusively. If you plan on running such workloads in the cloud (as many do) it doesn't matter. Backend work? Depending on the backend, it won't matter. PHP, Ruby, Java, Scala, Python, Go, Rust, ... can be done on macOS and Linux equally well. ASP.net and the like will require Windows. Devops-heavy work? If you expect to be running lots of VMs on your laptop, get a Linux laptop with as much RAM as you can cram into it. A 16" MBP with lots of RAM will do, too, but that's going to be pricey. If you can run such workloads in the cloud, it doesn't matter. If you want the most versatile, also get a Macbook. It'll run Linux and Windows virtualized just fine, macOS natively, you can do Android development and iOS development, all in a single machine. Depending on your needs a spec- ed up Air may be powerful enough, still not exactly cheap though. That's what I do, but with a 13" Macbook Pro (plus GCP instances for ML training). If you want to stick with Linux in earnest, and don't see yourself developing native macOS or iOS apps in the forseeable future, get a Dell or Thinkpad with good Linux support for your distro of choice. ~~~ mraza007 I see I totally agree with what you said. I have always thought about buying a macbook but i always remained hesitant due to it’s high price but what I believe is it’s worth its price I don’t plan to do machine learning for that you probably need a heavy machine such as a desktop with GPUs. But coming from a Linux world I wanna settle on one stable os instead keep distro hopping i might just go with macbook ~~~ dividedbyzero For what it's worth, barring catastrophic failure, which seems to be rare, these things tend to hold up quite well. My previous Macbook lasted me about 6 years, I had its battery replaced half a year ago without any issues; it's my backup machine now, and if it weren't a tad too sluggish at some tasks, I would have postponed the upgrade another year. Lots of people (on HN, too) run even older Macbooks, apparently happily. Just be sure to get the latest gen, especially for the 13" Pros ones – you absolutely want the 2020 keyboard (physical ESC key, no failure-prone butterfly mechanics, really nice feel, "old" arrow key arrangement that is easier to find by feel) and the newest CPUs. I have both keyboards (my own 2020 one and my 2018 work laptop) and the difference is crazy. But as I mentioned before, have a look at the current Air as well – cheaper and still plenty powerful, depending on what you need. ~~~ kingkongjaffa my 2012 16gb ssd macbookpro is running okay the only things lagging behind now are graphics for light gaming and the battery is pretty shot. ------ cpach It all comes down to a matter of taste really. IMHO: If you can afford it, get a Macbook of some kind. For a laptop/desktop, I would take macOS over Windows or Linux, any day. IMHO, macOS has the best apps and the best desktop experience. With Homebrew, you can install ~99% of all CLI utilities that you could run on Linux. I switched from Linux to macOS seven years ago and so far there are no Linux applications that I haven’t found a good alternative for. But to each their own and YMMV. ~~~ mraza007 Totally agree I’m just waiting for the new one to come out with arm chip ------ rvz You can still have it all on a Macbook plus with Windows and Linux installed too. Macbooks have the g̶o̶l̶d̶ diamond standard of trackpads from any other laptop you can find. Triple boot Windows, macOS and Linux without any effort or need of 'Hackintoshing' and in general, Touch ID and Apple Watch authentication in macOS on a Macbook take the pain out of repeatedly typing in passwords for SSH, PGP, password-managers etc. macOS on a Macbook just adds the added extra convenience Apple gives you which doesn't exist on any Linux laptop which makes development effortless and gets out of my way. ~~~ mraza007 Agreed with what you mentioned after using macbook for three months I’m getting used to the eco system and the smoothness ------ meretext I'm typing this on my primary machine, a late 2012 MacBook Pro. That's 8 years of full daily use, travel, downloads, compiling, running Docker, etc. And I really do mean every single day, morning onwards. Not saying all MacBooks will stand up that long, but my secondary laptop is a 2010 MacBook Air, and it's still kicking, though OS upgrades aren't available anymore for it. Aside from the keyboard problems of the past few years (one of the reasons I waited to upgrade), I've found them to be very reliable. Even my PowerBook with the Motorola CPU was still running up until a couple of years ago when I cleaned house. And as they can run OSes in VMs (Linux, FreeBSD, Windows ...), I feel the MacBook Pro is the best development platform, and really, best platform for most things. I have mutt installed for email, so you can still run all your CLI 'apps' if you like. Yeah, it is truly an awesome machine. And this one, 2 months before Apple Care expired, I took it in for a 'checkup' \-- they replaced over $1,100 worth of parts, including the logic board. I hadn't noticed anything wrong about the machine, but apparently it didn't meet their standards. If you're already leaning that way, buy one, use it for a while, and if it's not what you want later, sell it and consider the loss as you renting the laptop for that period of time. I could upgrade now the keyboards are fixed, but, well, this still works. Now I think I'll wait for the ARM- based MacBooks coming hopefully later this year. ------ rrao84 I have done codec development, heavy C++ programming, web development (front end), worked with MS Office exclusively for a year when I was a "manager" and now onto to blogging and copywriting. My trusty companion in all of this has been my Macbook Pro 2015 (Early) and it has never once crashed or stopped working. I have seen so many Windows machines come and go and nothing can hold a candle to a MacbookPro. This is my personal opinion - ymmv. But, if you are looking for a 1-time purchase that will last you atleast 6 years, and you use your machines carefully, then a Macbook Pro is worth the investment. Fair warning: I have no idea how the ARM-based macs are going to turn out. ~~~ mraza007 I see your workflow seems heavy just curious should I wait for arm based macbook or buy the one with intel ~~~ toyg The first ARM laptops won’t appear for another few months at least, and they’ll be “1.0 Apple products” anyway. You should not buy a 1.0 Apple product. Apart from the traditional quality-control issues of such releases, community and support resources for it won’t be there for some time. Unless you can wait for 2-3 years, if you want a Mac you should probably buy it now. ------ varbhat I am using Thinkpad E14 . I find it perfect for my usecase. It supports Linux 100℅ , built very well, has best keyboard, has flawless efi firmware. ------ codegladiator Get Windows. WSL is great. And the machines powering windows are also great. I recently deleted my Ubuntu 18 setup and using Win 10. ~~~ mraza007 I just switched my laptop to windows after being on linux for three years and have used three different distros But now i just want to settle on one thing that just runs out of the box i think I’m gonna go with macbook ------ chagaif You need both and windows as well.
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Asi64 – A Racket-based 6502 assembler - soegaard http://pinksquirrellabs.com/blog/2017/05/30/asi64/ ====== __s I've been wanting to do something like this but for WebAssembly & with Guile. Feels like it be useful compared to the hand writing I've been doing, here's an in-progress lexer: [https://github.com/serprex/luwa/blob/master/rt/lex.wawa](https://github.com/serprex/luwa/blob/master/rt/lex.wawa) with the janky wawa assembler being [https://github.com/serprex/luwa/blob/master/scripts/wawa.js](https://github.com/serprex/luwa/blob/master/scripts/wawa.js) ------ t0mek Similar solution in Haskell: [http://wall.org/~lewis/2013/10/15/asm- monad.html](http://wall.org/~lewis/2013/10/15/asm-monad.html) It allows to embed 6502 assembly in the Haskell code and use the latter as a macro language. ------ davidjhall Can this work with Atari 8bit and 2600 or just C64? ~~~ throwaway7645 I imagine the assembly is processor specific no? ~~~ royjacobs They also have a 6502 :)
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Ask HN: What are you reading? - classicsnoot Going to be asking this every few weeks. It&#x27;s the unofficial HN book club&#x2F;reading list! If you feel willing, please leave 3 titles: one you&#x27;ve read, one you are reading, and one you plan to read. ====== Amorymeltzer Currently: Rereading Game of Thrones before the upcoming season starts Recently finished: Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson, HIGHLY recommend it. He details the work he and his team at the Equal Justice Initiative have been doing for death row inmates without proper representation, many wrongly imprisoned for decades. Depressing but inspiring. Never go to Alabama. Next up: Amory Lovins' Reinventing Fire, which has been on my list for a while. Saw him speak a few years back and got inspired. (I've no connection outside sharing the same name) ------ classicsnoot OP: Just finished Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson. It was excellent and very inspiring. Currently reading Markets Not Capitalism, a collection of essays by multiple authors on the necessity of markets and the interference of central control on said markets, which is obviously heavy but very informative. My next book is The Known World by Edward P. Jones. It is about slaves. It is supposed to be rough on the emotions but well done. ------ kat Finished: Where I Belong, Alan Doyle. Light Christmas reading written by the lead singer of Great Big Sea. I recommend it to anyone who grew up in a small town! Reading: Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture, Martin Fowler So far so good. The first bit is overview, good contrasting examples of when to use what pattern. I've slowed down now that I've hit the actual patterns. Planning: Clean Code, Robert Martin. Recommended by a coworker. ------ pjungwir Finished: a collection of Kafka short stories Reading: Dover's abstract algebra paperback Planning: Cambridge's Demosthenes Selected Private Speeches ------ coreymaass In progress (sitting next to me as I type): Getting More by Stuart Diamond Classic Myths to Read Aloud by William Russell The Power of Positive Dog Training by Pat Miller ------ simplegeek Daily rituals; how artists work. Really liking it so far.
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Preserving the Chrysler Electronic Voice Alert (2015) [video] - bane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DwKqCZlKnw ====== DonHopkins "BEEP BEEP BEEP! A door is ajar. SLAM! Thank you." -Zoltan [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYGYUtv18Gg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYGYUtv18Gg)
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Startup Wisdom. 5 Quick Interview with Startup Founders - alincatalin90 https://gumroad.com/l/dfk ====== gamechangr You should at least put the $1 sign in the title!!
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Coronavirus: Boris Johnson taken to intensive care - DanBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52192604 ====== davidwitt415 A few weeks ago, Johnson suggested in public that the US 'take one on the chin' regarding Covid-19. How's that working out for you Boris? I don't care if you think this is inappropriate, because I find it welcome that for once a politician has to personally face the ramifications of his fecklessness. If only more of our leaders would have to face up, we might have real leadership instead of political posturing. ~~~ thu2111 He said the UK needed to do that, not the US. And in case you're in doubt, yes, it's wildly inappropriate. To wish revenge on a politician who has from the start delegated to his own scientific advisors, which is exactly what people wanted politicians to do, is a sick thing. You can go read the same advice he was reading on gov.uk, which states the obvious very clearly: you can't stop a virus with no vaccine by keeping everyone under indefinite house arrest. Even the dubious modellers admit that lockdown doesn't really flatten the curve, it just moves it forward. There's no solution in lockdown and it's wrong to pretend otherwise. Given the information at the time (and still now) the original "let it spread with timed and staged lockdown" strategy was very likely correct. It becomes clearer every day. The hospitals aren't overflowing, the country hasn't run out of ventilators - not even close - and yet the economy is trashed with consequent dire impacts to the future funding of the healthcare system and other public services. The country could clearly be coping with fewer restrictions than it has now. Despite that it's no surprise that the British left may sadly rejoice at Boris' ill fortune. It's hard to forget the parties they threw when Thatcher died. ~~~ DanBC > The hospitals aren't overflowing, We've converted all private provision to NHS provision; we've cancelled most elective care; we've built more than one private hospital (NHS Nightingale in London has 4,000 new beds). We need at least 5 staff members to safely look after each ventilated patient. That's dropped right down because of covid-19, and we've already soon big changes in staff:patient ratios. We're not at peak covid-19 yet, and we're trying to flatten the curve with social distancing and isolation measures. Despite all this our ICUs are overflowing. Listen to this doctor in Wales (you only need the first minute to hear how many patients they have) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejlbCmRJMW4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejlbCmRJMW4) Or this junior doctor who works in A&E, who talks about the large changes in patient flow: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN6Trgzf9kY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN6Trgzf9kY) ~~~ thu2111 Someone else found UK hospital admissions data. UK ER aren't just empty right now but disturbingly so. Part of the reason they're empty is that pneumonia and respiratory illness has hardly moved, yet cardiac, gastro and others have fallen off a cliff. That implies people with serious non-COVID problems are staying away from hospitals when they need care, because they've been told they have to "save the NHS". [https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...](https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/877600/EDSSSBulletin2020wk13.pdf.pdf) ------ agd I don’t think this is the time for snarky comments about his politics. He’s in intensive care and his wife is pregnant. I hope he gets better soon and I hope his family are doing ok at this difficult time. ~~~ ColinWright > _... his wife is pregnant._ Prime Minister Johnson is not married. In 1987, he married Allegra Mostyn-Owen. That was annulled in 1993. Twelve days later he married Marina Wheeler. Johnson and Wheeler finalised their divorce in February 2020. On February 29th Johnson announced his engagement to Carrie Symonds. He is engaged to be married, and his fiancée is expecting. But he is not currently married. More details: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson#Relationships](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson#Relationships) ~~~ mprev Any time someone gives the guy’s full name it’s a clear indicator of a certain agenda. Give it a rest. Dredge it up when he’s recovered or maybe, if he doesn’t survive this, after a respectful interval following his death. ~~~ ColinWright I have edited my comment. It now no longer gives his full name, nor mentions all of the documented relationships. ~~~ Bnshsysjab I don’t think it’s the full names the parent comment is taking issues with here. ------ haunter “I can tell you that I’m shaking hands continuously. I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were actually a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you’ll be pleased to know and I continue to shake hands”. (March 3rd) [https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1234828026933805057](https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1234828026933805057) ------ jjgreen He's been looking rougher and rougher as the week has worn on, I don't like the guy but wouldn't wish this on him. ------ Freestyler_3 Where did all of these leaders get their information about covid from? Surely not from the people who were watching the crisis develop in China. Another stupid thing: People have been burning down cell towers because they think 5G causes corona. Only to leave their area to be less covered by telephone network, possibly making it harder to reach emergency services. edit: I know many leaders have changed their views to more realistic ones, but I do wonder how they could be so misinformed in the beginning. ~~~ gridlockd > Where did all of these leaders get their information about covid from? > Surely not from the people who were watching the crisis develop in China. The official information coming out of China was "mostly mild courses, mostly kills old people with pre-existing conditions, kind of like the flu". Later, the official information coming out of Italy was "mostly mild courses, mostly kills old people with pre-existing conditions, kind of like the flu". Therefore, if you're not going to make a big fuss about the flu, why make one about COVID-19? Quite a few _actual virologists_ took this stance, at least for a while. The alarmists won the battle for attention, but not because of superior information. That was also before Italy was overwhelmed. Even experts underestimated just how virulent COVID-19 was going to be and how many people were going to get it in such short order of time. However, the fact remains that it's mostly mild courses, mostly kills old people with pre-existing conditions - kind of like the flu. If _the flu_ kills an otherwise healthy person, which happens all the time, it's not news. COVID-19 is an unprecedented media spectacle, with unprecedented reactions from governments across the world, mob mentality is driving more and more drastic responses. It's _not_ a foregone conclusion that these drastic responses were the right measure. Sweden has done pretty much nothing, yet their graphs don't look any worse than those of other European countries. Perhaps they're covering it all up, but perhaps all of this social distancing, all this shutdown does very little to slow the spread of this disease if just a few people go shopping once a week, if just a few people go to work and carry it home. We _don 't know_, because we don't know how COVID-19 actually spreads. History is written by the winners. Had COVID-19 turned out less severe, the alarmists would've been decried as oversensitive fools. Now the anti-alarmists are being portrayed as irresponsible. Yet, both acted in good faith on _the same information_. Don't forget that the price of the shutdown is a major recession, it's not a simple political decision to make. The principle of charity must be applied. ~~~ rconti >The official information coming out of China was "mostly mild courses, mostly kills old people with pre-existing conditions, kind of like the flu". >Later, the official information coming out of Italy was "mostly mild courses, mostly kills old people with pre-existing conditions, kind of like the flu". In both cases, the information _also_ included extremely rapid uncontrolled spread, a much higher death rate than the flu, and overwhelming available medical resources. This was known for a _very_ long time; as far back as early January in China. >The alarmists won the battle for attention, but not because of superior information. I'm not sure calling the people who were correct "alarmists" is aging well. And you still are apparently dismissing it as 'luck', that they were correct, because you state their information was no better. >Even experts underestimated just how virulent COVID-19 was going to be and how many people were going to get it in such short order of time. I seem to recall predictions of crazy R0 values for coronavirus back in early January. I, too, thought it was probably at the "overdone" side of things, again, in early January, before we had more information. But the picture started becoming much more clear by early February, and certainly mid- February. And we continued to do NOTHING in the US, at least into mid-March. And even once we spent a month ignoring the devastating consequences in Italy, much of the US hand-waved it away, and explained that they're all old people, and it could never happen here. Then once it started happening here, we started hearing from governors of southern states, explaining how it can't happen THERE because they're not Washington. Or California. And then it became "we're not New York". I'm sorry, but the level of _intentional ignorance_ on this matter has played out over many, many months, over and over again, in precisely the same, predictable pattern. And here you are, claiming nobody could have known, and the alarmists got lucky. >History is written by the winners. Had COVID-19 turned out less severe, the alarmists would've been decried as oversensitive fools. Now the anti-alarmists are being portrayed as irresponsible. Yet, both acted in good faith on the same information. Wrong. ~~~ gridlockd > In both cases, the information also included extremely rapid uncontrolled > spread, a much higher death rate than the flu, and overwhelming available > medical resources. A high death rate in the beginning isn't meaningful. Early on during the Swine Flu, mortality was estimated at 0.5%[1], later estimates were ten times lower[2]. This was described as the "tip of the iceberg" phenomenon in a Q&A on a Harvard website[3] as late as early March. That section was later removed. As for "uncontrolled spread", we've all seen footage of masses of people storming the hospitals in an entirely unsanitary manner, we've seen people getting dragged off the streets, for the crime of having an elevated temperature, then getting force-quarantined in open halls with no regards to safety. If this was an overwhelmed healthcare system, it wasn't clear that the blame could be put on the virus. > This was known for a very long time; as far back as early January in China. It wasn't, but hindsight is 20/20\. In mid-January there were less than 500 confirmed cases and no good estimate on the number of unconfirmed cases. Less than thirty people had died, over the course of two months in which likely a comparable number of people in Wuhan died from Influenza, but didn't make the news. > I'm not sure calling the people who were correct "alarmists" is aging well. They _were_ the alarmists at the time and will forever have been so. Some of their predictions may have turned out correct, others may yet turn out correct, others may turn out incorrect. The Swine Flu, as predicted, _could_ have killed 120 million people[4], but then it _didn 't_, even without any shutdowns. > And you still are apparently dismissing it as 'luck', that they were > correct, because you state their information was no better. Of course their information wasn't any better. Everyone had access to the same information. The difference is in its interpretation, not so much based on luck but personal disposition. Again, not _all_ virologists made the same dire predictions. > I seem to recall predictions of crazy R0 values for coronavirus back in > early January. I, too, thought it was probably at the "overdone" side of > things, again, in early January, before we had more information. Yes, you saw _predictions_ of crazy R0 values that _you yourself_ weren't ready to believe. At the time it wasn't solid information, and it never will have been. > But the picture started becoming much more clear by early February, and > certainly mid-February. By mid-February, less than 2000 people had died worldwide from COVID-19, compared to at least 10,000 deaths from Influenza in the US alone. I'm not saying the "flu comparison" is a valid comparison, but at that point in time, it was still allowed to be made, even by experts. > And we continued to do NOTHING in the US, at least into mid-March. Neither did most European countries. Even in Italy, there was no nation-wide shutdown until March 9th. > Wrong. Wrong how? Your comment is a good example of an inaccurate historical account, as written by those who ended up on "the right side". [1] [https://www.bmj.com/content/339/bmj.b2840.full](https://www.bmj.com/content/339/bmj.b2840.full) [2] [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2784967/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2784967/) [3] [https://web.archive.org/web/20200304132800/https://www.healt...](https://web.archive.org/web/20200304132800/https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/as- coronavirus-spreads-many-questions-and-some-answers-2020022719004) [4] [https://metro.co.uk/2009/04/26/swine-flu-could-kill-up- to-12...](https://metro.co.uk/2009/04/26/swine-flu-could-kill-up- to-120m-57725/) ~~~ rconti >Yes, you saw predictions of crazy R0 values that you yourself weren't ready to believe. At the time it wasn't solid information, and it never will have been. You're correct. It wasn't a "gotcha" on your part. I volunteered that information to point out that I was not an alarmist, I wasn't ready to believe the most "alarming" predictions, and yet, somehow, it was _still_ clear to me and the entirety of mainstream thought in the US, how bad it was going to be, before the most contrarian commentators were willing to admit. >Neither did most European countries. Even in Italy, there was no nation-wide shutdown until March 9th. In the US, it was still theoretically possible to contain it with "just" 19 confirmed cases at the end of February, even though, of course, that meant likely 10 times+ as many people had it, and were spreading it, when community spread was first reported on February 29[1] Once community spread was found in the US, and _given_ our lack of ability to test for it, it was a foregone conclusion that it would spread like wildfire in the US, because containment is impossible if you don't know who's infected but asymptomatic. Already in that first week of March, tech companies such as LinkedIn were already sending people home for the month[2], because it was beyond clear we were going to see rapid community spread. "We are 10 days behind Italy" was a common saying in mid-March. My own company sent us home later that first week, as we had _direct links_ to places with known community spread. It was out of an abundance of caution, as I don't believe anyone ever got infected. It was an aggressive move, but it turned out to be the right move. 10 days later, a shelter in place order was sent out for the ENTIRE BAY AREA, and then a few days later, for the entire state. And here we are, 3 weeks later, folks in Georgia saying "we are not Louisiana" (I had to update that from "we are not California" and "we are not New York" because the states ignorant leaders compare themselves to keep shifting as one by one the dominos fall) >By mid-February, less than 2000 people had died worldwide from COVID-19, compared to at least 10,000 deaths from Influenza in the US alone. I'm not saying the "flu comparison" is a valid comparison, but at that point in time, it was still allowed to be made, even by experts. It was still "allowed to be made" by people who cannot perform simple extrapolation. Yes, just because a graph is going up today does not mean it will go up tomorrow -- _absent any other evidence_ But with a known long incubation period, and roughly 1 month between infection and death, you can know for virtual fact that it's not going to stop at 2000 deaths when _known_ infections is an order of magnitude higher, and there is basically no testing, and absolutely no reason for it to have stopped spreading. (eg, no preventive measures in place, no reason to expect the virus to die off on its own, etc). And now we have a bunch of people who listened to contrarian opinions to convince themselves that "it couldn't happen here" are going back to find "evidence" to piece together a tenuous line of thinking that could have led even an informed person to be wrong. But constructive a narrative from historically cherry-picked statements is not the same thing as having weighed the available evidence at the time. [1][https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/three- st...](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/three-states- report-new-community-spread-covid-19) [2][https://www.businessinsider.com/linkedin-tells-employees- to-...](https://www.businessinsider.com/linkedin-tells-employees-to-work-from- home-over-coronavirus-concerns-2020-3) ------ MiguelVieira From the CDC: "Mortality among patients admitted to the ICU ranges from 39% to 72% depending on the study. The median length of hospitalization among survivors was 10 to 13 days." ------ nojvek I hope Boris gets out of this as a new leaf. It’s also a real wake up call to politicians that what they say in public and their policies have serious repercussions. Every decision they make in the current pandemic climate could take or potentially save lives. Some of them being their loved ones. ------ aazaa Johnson, like many world leaders, vastly underestimated what he was facing: > "I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were a few > coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you will be pleased > to know, and I continue to shake hands," he said. "People obviously can make > up their own minds but I think the scientific evidence is… our judgement is > that washing your hands is the crucial thing." [https://www.newsweek.com/boris-johnson-says-shaken-hands- cor...](https://www.newsweek.com/boris-johnson-says-shaken-hands-coronavirus- patients-1490214) This may be the first crisis where shooting your mouth off about things you know little about backfires - quickly and lethally. I suspect there will be many instances of this sort of thing in the months to come. False predictions about "light at the end of the tunnel." Panicked re- instatements of lockdowns after premature lifting. Miracle cures that turn deadly because drugs are much more complicated than they seem. All the while cheerleaders with hidden agendas will continue to promote dangerous, ill-informed opinions. ~~~ neilwilson That was weeks ago. The facts changed and he changed his mind. Yet nothing he has said since then erases the original sin apparently. Now he’s in ICU and may not survive. Let those without sin cast the first stone. ~~~ Axsuul I think "may not survive" is setting the wrong tone here since the odds of him surviving are good. ~~~ parsimo2010 Consider that people in ICU have a much higher mortality rate than the general population, that the government is going to bias their reports towards calm and stability, and that most people would even call a 20% probability of dying pretty bad. Saying that “he may not survive“ is perfectly reasonable. It’s not saying he’s definitely going to die. I hope the media wouldn’t sensationalize it like this, but there is definitely a chance that he will die. ~~~ redis_mlc There's 66% - 90% mortality after ventilator use by corona patients. ~~~ baha_man He's not on a ventilator yet as far as we know ------ mandeepj Why no Chinese politician has contracted Corona? Did they understand the risk from day 1? Heck, none of their other cities were impacted by it but the disease has made its way to London, NYC, and all the major other cities. ~~~ haunter How many times have you seen Johnson, Trump, Merkel, Macron etc. in facemask? Whenever they shown Xi Jinping in Wuhan or any member of the politburo visiting hospitals and such they were all wearing masks, sometimes even rubber gloves too. ~~~ nojvek It’s not the first battle of Chinese with viruses. SARS, bird flu, swine flu. They’ve learnt their lessons. I do hope they get their animal market hygiene together. It’s a bit crazy how many viruses have originated from China.
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Ask HN: Startup Marketing - GroupRefer A lot of startups have the chicken and egg problem that PG describes. For example, a dating site is not great unless you have a lot of people registered as the point is to have many people there.<p>My startup, Grosper.com suffers from the same problem. We do group buying for real estate in the Middle East and the as the description suggests, we need a lot of early users so that deals go through. If deals don't go through early on, more members won't come - a vicious cycle.<p>This post is about asking for help to market my startup. Any comments about marketing ideas on a shoestring budget or resources such as great books by great mentors (More 37 Signals, less College Professor) would be appreciated. ====== rcavezza Here's a few things I've seen work for a shoestring marketing budget. Reach out to bloggers in this niche. If this is something that doesn't exist in some capacity and can really help people, maybe some bloggers will mention it and you can get a few subscribers. Look for parallel partners. Maybe you can negotiate where someone mentions your daily deals in their daily deal email and you can mention their deals in four of yours to mitigate their risk. Trade resources for mentions. Maybe you have a specific expertise that you can sell to someone in a similar space. Instead of charging money, barter a mention in their newsletter or blog. Start a blog and create catch titles that people can get attached to in your niche. Something like 8 secrets to a free vacation in Dubai can go viral. Write featured blog posts for related blogs. This is nice because it usually guarantees an existing audience will read your post. ~~~ GroupRefer one of the issues in the Dubai is the lack of prominent bloggers. You'll find most users following prominent international blogs rather than any local ones. Strong idea about trade resources though. We have started our own blog. We hope to get some sort of following for that. ------ jonnycombust You need to focus on content marketing around your story - which, as I gather from your post, is the real estate opportunity in the middle east. Become an industry thought leader and champion. Write some great blog posts that have real insight and just a very light sales pitch, and get them syndicated on sites that appeal to the middle eastern real estate and emerging business market. If it's a niche opportunity, which it seems like, then there should be several relevant niche media who, like you, are aiming for growth in the market, and can mutually benefit from great content you can provide them. Basically, you need to identify partners who are vested in the industry's growth like you are, and figure out ways to be an asset to them and not just an advertiser. And the easiest way to do this is to provide great content. \- @jonnystartup ------ dholowiski Did you see PG talking to the guys who were doing the 'matchmaking' dating site on this weekend's startup school? He told them that instead of making it into a dating site, find some really good matchmakers, treat them really nice, and reward them, and the masses of users will come later. I don't know how it applies, but if you're having a chicken/egg problem, try changing it around to an egg/chicken problem... Try turning the whole idea on it's head. ~~~ GroupRefer this is actually one of the ways we considered. We called it the Tastemakers (interior designers), basically, getting people with good taste to recommend great products to put in your home, so users would be drawn to our website for the content. ------ akshay See if these might help - [http://howtolaunchastartup.com/2011/06/20/21-must- read-resou...](http://howtolaunchastartup.com/2011/06/20/21-must-read- resources-for-start-up-marketing/) ~~~ GroupRefer hey akshay, that actually does. thanks a lot, appreciate it. ------ Linkdip 1\. You have a two-sided marketplace problem. Go read up on that. 2\. Don't listen to the Silicon Valley guys. They don't know what marketing is.
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Ask HN: Is there a site dedicated to startup news and job postings? - geuis Is there one site dedicated to news about startups, while also providing a list of available jobs? In my mind it's a duo tech news site and craigslist job search. ====== david927 For start-up jobs there's startuply.com For start-up tech news and information, there are a million sites for every taste and size.
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Troubling discrepancies in Rosenhan's “On Being Sane in Insane Places”? - Anon84 https://nypost.com/2019/11/02/stanford-professor-who-changed-america-with-just-one-study-was-also-a-liar/ ====== mlthoughts2018 This feels honestly like a pretty weak criticism of the original paper. First there are all kinds of red herring details about Rosenhan’s “life of the party” demeanor and a book deal, very much as if to set you up to believe he was a manipulator on these accounts alone. After that there is literally just one fact that possibly indicates manipulating the original study data, which is allegedly omitting one participant’s experiences which were “positive” (as self-reported decades later). Even if true, the overall study only included some tiny sample size, and if even only 1-2 had harrowing or abusive experiences, which Rosenhan himself had in his own faked hospital stay, wouldn’t that be enough to prove the general point that abuse was shockingly common and patient treatment in these facilities at that time was seriously troubled? Meanwhile this article itself is also pushing various book ads for the author’s own book. My takeaway is that Rosenhan may have selectively excluded data, but the point of his paper was much more qualitative and directional in a direction that turned out to be true and led to a huge overhaul of mental health facilities for the better. If we can prove Rosenhan manipulated data, we should acknowledge that, and it should not be treated lightly. But it also doesn’t seem to invite sweeping reassessment of the original paper at all. This piece just seems like somewhat of a publicity grab. ~~~ dang Thanks. That seems like enough to add a question mark to the title above. ------ ScottBurson NYT piece on the same book: [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/02/books/susannah-cahalan- gr...](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/02/books/susannah-cahalan-great- pretender.html) ~~~ dang Thanks, that's interesting. I've pilfered the phrase "troubling discrepancies" to replace the baity title above. ------ tcj_phx The United States' mental health system feeds itself with its palliative approach. As bad as the system might have been 50 years ago, in Rosenhan's time, I'm sure it's much worse today, on account of 50 years of development of non-helpful drugs. For example, one of my sources says that each generation of anti-depressants was less effective than the generation that preceded it. The MAOI's were reasonably-effective for short-term use [2], but fell from favor as their patents expired. Their replacements were less effective, but patent profits paid for drug companies to promote them to doctors. The SSRI's are the least-effective of all. Second-generation "atypical antipsychotics" aren't appreciably better than first generation antipsychotics, and in some cases are actually much worse (some of the latest and greatest antipsychotics, which are actually anti-serotonin drugs, might be worth using on a very-short-term basis). Robert Whitaker says that 20th century psychiatric medications take what would have been an episodic condition, and make it chronic [0][1]. There are now vastly more people who need help than capacity to help them. I've recently come to appreciate that we have a bifurcated approach. People who have no one to advocate for them get a catch-and-release treatment, because the holding tanks can only hold people for a few days before they have to be transferred for involuntary evaluation or released to the street. Those with an advocate are given priority. In my state, the process for helping people who don't realize they need help goes 48-hour hold -> involuntary evaluation (3 days max) -> filing of petition for court-ordered treatment (weeks and weeks). My friend got the catch-and-release treatment once. She'd escaped from her involuntary treatment program, where her ability to control her alcohol intake (the actual cause of her condition) was not helped by the palliative psychiatric drugs she was forced to take. She did well for a month, then resumed drinking. After a few weeks of drinking she disappeared. Maybe two days later she called and asked me to pick her up from "big city", but didn't give a specific location. A few days later I got a call from a mental hospital. She said she was being transferred for involuntary evaluation, then she stopped calling. Her father said she'd been released. I suggested to her father that we should file a missing person report. He concurred. When I called the police, the officer said they'd prefer I come down to the main station or a precinct to file the missing person report in person, so the officer would know I wasn't harassing someone. I was also told it'd help to get her family involved too. So her father and I went down to the main station. The officer working the desk was skeptical, but after a few minutes he agreed to look up my friend. When he came back and said my friend wasn't missing, because they'd taken her back to the crazy-tank the day before. Her father had already hired a lawyer. The social worker said they have dozens of petitions for court-ordered evaluation expire every week, on account of not having room to transfer the patients for their evaluations. I think the social worker greased the wheels to make sure my friend wasn't released to the street again. From the fine article: > But the problem is that scientific research needs to be sound. We cannot > build progress on a rotten foundation. The 'rotten foundation' in our mental health system is treating people's symptoms without concern for their cause. Scientists have actually figured out most of the causes behind patients' symptoms, so we don't actually have to treat them palliatively anymore. It's just conveniently profitable for the system to play make-believe that our current selection of FDA-approved patent medicines are the best we can do. [0] [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15353109](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15353109) [1] [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12068958](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12068958) [2] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_inhibitor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_inhibitor) \- "New research into MAOIs indicates that much of the concern over their supposed dangerous dietary side effects stems from misconceptions and misinformation, and that it is still underutilized despite demonstrated efficacy. ..." ~~~ seibelj I wish people would stop saying online that SSRIs are a scam. My life was saved by Lexapro, an SSRI. I have taken it for almost 8 years now and the difference within 2 weeks of starting treatment was night and day. Literally stopped years of anxiety and depression that made life unbearable and turned them into a manageable condition. I tried many other “cures” - diet, exercise, mindfulness, therapy, and on and on - and nothing helped like Lexapro did. If you need help don’t get spooked by the parent commentator. Help exists. ~~~ tcj_phx > I wish people would stop saying online that SSRIs are a scam. Some people like their SSRI's, some people kill themselves soon after starting that class of drug [0] (presumably due to the serotonin syndrome [1]). > My life was saved by Lexapro, an SSRI. My friend told me about how Lexapro seemed to help her. But it also didn't keep her from relapsing on cocaine, a pro-dopamine drug. The MAOIs are much more useful for a cocaine-like boost that doesn't make them crash after 20 minutes than the SSRIs, which take weeks/months before most people notice any benefit, and which help some people by helping them "not care" about their life situation. 20 years ago teh scientists figured out that it's not extra serotonin that helps people, but the SSRI's effects on neurosteroids: [https://www.ucsf.edu/news/1999/11/5059/scientists- identify-n...](https://www.ucsf.edu/news/1999/11/5059/scientists-identify-new- pathway-antidepressant-action) > If you need help don’t get spooked by the parent commentator. Help exists. My observation is that some people don't actually get the help they need, and deteriorate from defective prescriptions. My friend needed help getting her drinking under control, but all she got was medically assaulted with anti- dopamine drugs (so-called "antipsychotics"). The tragedy is that we actually know how to help people. Some of the MAOIs are much better drugs to use temporarily while helping people deal with "stress". [0] [https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/10/11-9-million-paxil- suic...](https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/10/11-9-million-paxil-suicide- verdict-inside-story/) \- I think the damages were overturned on appeal. [1] [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5370302/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5370302/)
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Darwin-xnu: The Darwin Kernel - adamnemecek https://github.com/apple/darwin-xnu? ====== 0x0 The big news here is the inclusion of arm and arm64 specific files, which used to be excluded in source drops previously. ~~~ diminish So is it a totally new story that iOS kernel is open sourced? ~~~ mindcrash No, because this thing, darwin-xnu AKA the OSX/iOS microkernel, was already opensourced through [https://opensource.apple.com/](https://opensource.apple.com/) for both iOS and OSX (to be precise, the source tarballs can be found here: [https://opensource.apple.com/tarballs/xnu/](https://opensource.apple.com/tarballs/xnu/)) What is new however is that Apple is now seemingly actively using GitHub to publish their opensource contributions. ~~~ willstrafach > No, because this thing, darwin-xnu AKA the OSX/iOS microkernel, was already > opensourced through > [https://opensource.apple.com/](https://opensource.apple.com/) for both iOS > and OSX This is not true. iOS components were always stripped out until now. ~~~ joshumax This, while probably seemingly unimportant to a lot of people, is extremely great news for a project I'm a part of! We're working on a full iPhone emulator based on QEMU, and currently, while we are able to boot into early userspace from an unmodified iOS image, the release of the iOS-specific code will be quite helpful in speeding up bug elimination and the development of the virtual graphics hardware that can get us past a basic graphical framebuffer. ~~~ FractalNerve wow, interesting! Where can I find your project? ~~~ KGIII Probably this: [https://github.com/joshumax/QEMU-s5l89xx- port](https://github.com/joshumax/QEMU-s5l89xx-port) Or this: [https://github.com/nvsio/qemu-ios](https://github.com/nvsio/qemu-ios) Found sort of via this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/6crw5t/question_...](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/6crw5t/question_nor_flash_dumps_of_various_idevices/) I assume they won't mind my sharing. They posted it publicly with the same username and have public Git pages. ~~~ joshumax Actually, you saved me a post! Thanks! Although quick note, a lot of work is being done in a private repo until it passes the "clean room" test, after which it will be pushed to the public repos. :) ------ beefhash See also: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15371102](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15371102) and [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15371111](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15371111) There seems to be some confusion on whether the iOS kernel was or was not newly open sourced and whether it's the complete iOS kernel or not. ~~~ monocasa I don't see why there's confusion. AArch64 support in platform export (like hal.dll for XNU) seems to be stubbed out and unimplemented meaning that the ARM support is at least from an ancient iOS kernel. [https://github.com/apple/darwin- xnu/blob/master/pexpert/arm/...](https://github.com/apple/darwin- xnu/blob/master/pexpert/arm/pe_serial.c#L168) ------ arca_vorago License for those interested: [https://github.com/apple/darwin- xnu/blob/master/LICENSE](https://github.com/apple/darwin- xnu/blob/master/LICENSE) ~~~ smitherfield TL;DR - GPL-ish with a Facebook-style patent clause. ------ walterbell At the Tencent security conference in August, there was a demo of ARM iOS booting on virtualized iPhone6 hardware on x86 Macbook. Video clip was on Twitter but since removed. ------ sigmar Odd that there wouldn't be a public explanation for this. Poking through board_config I found support for the A10X (T8011), and for the three Apple Watch chips, but not for the new A11 SoC (T8015). ------ amrrs With a blog for Machine Learning where Apple shares some of its practices and now open-sourcing its iOS kernel for the first time, Apple is entering a new era of Post-Jobs where every company has started to believe the only way to attract quality resources is to contribute back to the society - Remember how this community scared FB to rewrite React License. It's a great way forward for FOSS and hopefully one that can set up the right way for Post-Cook Apple. ~~~ new299 It's a start. It would be nice to see more of iOS open sourced. Not everything, but enough to run the GUI and maybe Safari. I think that could be a huge win for Apple. Lower end, open source iOS compatible phone could attack Android offering, particularly at the lower end. They'd gain control over the market (as it would be derived from their source, and compatible with their ecosystem) without having to do much work. Honestly, if Apple don't do it, someone should come up with an open source iOS compatible offering, which developers could easily re-target their apps to. VCs reading this, I'm offering 15% for 3MUSD for the above idea. ;) ~~~ madeofpalk I think Apple (and everyone else) is doing pretty well with their closed source software. Apple doesn't need others to make lower and cheaper devices. They're more than capable of doing it themselves, they just don't want to. ~~~ comstock No, they don’t want to. But I think it would be advantageous to them to not have Android around. Potentially they could convert many Android users to open source iOS. It wouldn’t come with the branding, I think it could be to their advantage. It’s not likely to happen, but I think an open source iOS clone/fork would be nice and could also have potential benefits for Apple. ~~~ dmitriid > No, they don’t want to. But I think it would be advantageous to them to not > have Android around. In 2016 Apple got 104% of the entire mobile industry's _profit_. Not revenue. _Profit_ [1] I hardly see how disappearance of Android would bring Apple any more advantages. This year Samsung looks like they might beat Apple on profits ... due to large sales of components "to a major smartphone customer" [2] [1] [http://fortune.com/2016/11/04/apple-smartphone- profits/](http://fortune.com/2016/11/04/apple-smartphone-profits/) [2] [http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/27/technology/samsung-profit- ap...](http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/27/technology/samsung-profit- apple/index.html) ~~~ comstock Thanks, the 104% profit number doesn’t make sense to me and I couldn’t see it explained the the article. How do you get >100% of the profits available in a given industry? ~~~ AlphaSite The rest of the industry operates at a loss. ~~~ jacobush On average. ------ nextos To someone not familiar with Darwin internals, are drivers bundled or is it possible to get binary blobs? Does this mean we can build an open source stack that could run on iPhone or iWatch? ~~~ new299 Without the ability to sign the kernel, even if you could build one you wouldn't be able to run it. ~~~ thinkloop That's big, what's their purpose for open sourcing if not to allow developers to build on it? ~~~ comstock It’s possible that this might help security researchers find/fix bugs. It may help other developers understand how iOS works. Overall, I think it’s unlikely to be hugely useful, in terms of actuallly using it for anything. ------ gok The new GitHub home aside, there's some cool stuff in XNU. The memory compressor, process hibernation, activity tracing, DTrace...worth poking through! ------ buildbot Looks like they are working on NVRAM support : [https://github.com/apple/darwin- xnu/blob/master/iokit/Kernel...](https://github.com/apple/darwin- xnu/blob/master/iokit/Kernel/IONVRAM.cpp) ~~~ abrowne All Macs have NVRAM for settings like default boot disk, volume and display brightness. ------ kev009 Dang, no APFS. Was hoping to gauge how portable it'd be to *BSD. ~~~ adamnemecek You have zfs. ~~~ kev009 I love ZFS and use it as much as possible. But we make heavy use of UFS at $work because sendfile and fail in place. I'm in the market for a flash filesystem for this use case. I doubt APFS has that all figured out, but it might be technically interesting enough to do so, and it might integrate move coherently with the pager than ZFS (the ARC makes this quite difficult but not impossible to do sendfile/mmap w/o extra copying) ~~~ GalacticDomin8r Have you tried nandfs? I have not, so I don't know if it meets your needs. ------ waynecochran Interesting side note, source contains 8701 goto statements -- I like it. $ find . -name "*.c" -exec grep goto {} \; -print | wc -l 8701 Most of it to unify releasing resources on function returns to one place at the end of the function body. This is what makes RAII in C++ so important/convenient. ~~~ efiop You are saying it like if 'goto' was a bad thing. This is pretty normal for any kernel/system projects. ------ payne92 dupe: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15371102](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15371102) and [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15371111](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15371111) ------ navalsaini This means that we should have cheap non-apple phones capable of running iOS applications. Why would apple allow that? ~~~ AsyncAwait It does not mean that at all. This is not iOS itself being open-sourced, only the Darwin kernel is open-source, which is pretty much useless in isolation, certainly for trying to develop a cheap phone to run iOS apps. ~~~ navalsaini Oic ... the framework/middleware is not. I took parallels to Android. Thanks for correcting me. ------ amelius Nice, but I don't want open software as much as open hardware. (For software, there are plenty of alternatives). ~~~ kzisme What makes you say that? ~~~ amelius Lack of good options to put a libre OS on phone hardware and build a libre phone. Why can my top-of-the-line desktop be libre but must my phone be locked down? ------ thought_alarm Tabs instead of spaces. Tsk, tsk. [https://i.imgur.com/VE7kEeC.png](https://i.imgur.com/VE7kEeC.png) "debo" must have been an intern.
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Ask HN: Does your Alexa or Google Home make you more productive? - free_everybody It seems like one of the main reasons to get a voice assistant is to increase productivity. Is it worth the cost? ====== incan1275 It was for us. Things we use it for: \- Using it as a timer for cooking in the kitchen. \- For music at home. \- Listening to weather reports and news in the morning before we head out for work. Before Alexa, we used our phone for all the above, but we found it to be much easier using a voice assistant. I wouldn't say it's a massive gain in productivity, but we are pretty happy we got it. ------ mrmondo I know three people with them, two of them now have them sitting in a box somewhere the other one said he doesn’t use it for anything other than the weather or time but is now seriously concerned about it’s privacy implications so is considering unplugging it. Personally I use Siri on my phone probably more than 20 times a day on average and find it very useful, it helps me set reminders, events, send quick messages etc... without the full cost of mental context shifting. ------ devonbleak Don't get it (yet) if you're looking to achieve some kind of ROI on it. They're still toys for now. Probably the main thing I can do faster with Alexa than other things is check the weather, which I do maybe once or twice a day. Things like turning lights on and off I can do faster by just walking to the appropriate switches. Otherwise I just use it as a speaker for playing music. ------ hahla No, I only use it to check the weather (Alexa). Haven't really found many uses for it (however, I haven't really explored either). ------ feocco I'd say it's more about convenience. Not having to open your phone/PC to play music, videos, search, etc. There's a learning curve to the features and ideal audio conditions. Not great initially. But I work remotely and it's quite useful for timing breaks & lunches, reminders, music, and broadcasting. There are far better ways to improve your productivity. ------ tabeth If you have to pick a smart home thing I'd actually get something like SmartThings. It's amazing actually how nice it is not to think about things like turning on lights, locking doors, etc. You can wake up to coffee (and not on a timer, literally when you wake up it'll detect your motion and start brewing it), etc. ------ cordite Weather, news nippets, timers. I pick up food ordered on time these days so that’s good. ------ d0m I'm trying to hard to use siri but it never works. "light" > I don't understand "flashlight" > I can't do that "why?" > I couldn't say "open the flashlight" > google search ------ needcaffeine We use our Echo in the following ways: \- “set a timer for X minutes” \- “play the latest planet money podcast” \- “play the album Moana” \- “pause the firetv” \- “what’s the weather tonight?” \- “what’s the news?” It saves us a ton of time but also is a huge entertainer for our kids. ------ synaptc I only use my Echo Dot for a few things: - checking the weather/time - settings a timer - having Alexa read me a bedtime story (Audible) I think if I dedicated some time to actually integrate Alexa with my home (lights, Nest, speakers, etc.), I can see it improving productivity. Especially with how easy custom skills are to build, you can really take the technology much further. ------ SeaDude Very strange responses. At least one person mentioned privacy concerns. "I put this new gadget in my house so I can check weather once a day. Meanwhile, it records all ambient noise and even identifies the voices of everyone speaking in the room. Garsh! It sure is neat." Better hang a disclaimer on your door for when friends come over. Warning: House equipped with a dipshit. By entering, you are giving up all perceived privacy. Do not discuss things that matter. ------ odonnellryan No, not more productive, but it's definitely useful. ------ Spooky23 It’s a toy.
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Trump calls for 'merit-based' immigration system in address to Congress - dionmanu http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/28/trump-calls-for-merit-based-immigration-system-in-congress-speech.html ====== RichardHeart Australia and many other countries already choose who they allow to get a work visa based on their "merit" [http://www.workpermit.com/immigration/australia/australia- sk...](http://www.workpermit.com/immigration/australia/australia-skilled- immigration-points-calculator) More points for some jobs, less points for others [http://www.workpermit.com/immigration/australia/australian-s...](http://www.workpermit.com/immigration/australia/australian- skilled-occupation-list-sol) Note that if you want to immigrate anywhere in the world, you need be attractive enough to get married, or get accepted to a school, or buy an investor visa, otherwise get screwed is the global consensus.
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Tools don’t solve the web’s problems, they are the problem - tosh http://quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2015/05/tools_dont_solv.html ====== freshyill I agree, _in theory_. Apps are faster. No disrespect to PPK, but he needs to cite some examples. If he's talking about jQuery, then I disagree. It's gotten faster, and it's a tiny download when you compare it to videos, images, or webfonts. If he's talking about front-end MVC-ish frameworks, they're not completely blameless, but generally speaking, the sites that use them _feel_ fast once you get past the initial load. I think his premise is off. He's talking about front-end performance. Tools aren't the problem. Content is the problem. Images are huge. Videos are huge. What we need are tools to help us get around this. And we're getting them. Talk to any serious front-end developer, and they'll tell you all about what they're doing to improve performance. Critical CSS, asynchronous CSS and JS, the picture element, Web Page Test, PageSpeed, better Inspector tools, etc. Even Google Fonts warns you very clearly about the impact your choices will have on download times. There's no shortage of tools, but tools aren't the problem. There's no denying that the web can be faster, but we've been doing an admirable job of keeping up with rich content. ~~~ marcus_holmes I downloaded a themeforest website template the other day. It was a pretty simple admin site, whole bunch of HTML pages which was cool. the assets folder had this: css: 460Kb fonts: 1016Kb images: 4004Kb js: 1948Kb So yes, images and video is the largest section of content, but it's not helping that nearly half as much again is executable code that needs to be not only downloaded, but then executed (and it doesn't help that this code produced ~20 errors depending on which browser it ran on). I agree with the OP that we have a problem here. ~~~ freshyill I don't know what you expected. If you go downloading random themes built by anonymous people of questionable skill, you're unlikely to get a performant web site. ~~~ marcus_holmes fair point, but still ------ tosh I'm not sure what kind of 'tools' the author is referring to though. ~~~ spronkey No.. I didn't quite get it either. People blindly including every js lib under the sun and not optimising at all, sure. Using "tools" ? What. Surely he wasn't suggestin people reinvent the wheel? ------ vortico I feel the need to link this rant, as I have a number of times as a response to overdesigning until you've half-solved the problems you've created by overdesigning. [http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/](http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/)
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MorePhone, the Smartphone Screen That Changes Shape to Alert You - gojizzle http://mashable.com/2013/04/27/morephone-screen/ ====== twiceaday Shape changing seems very flimsy to me. My guess is devices are going to keep getting thinner and lighter and rigidity is going to become more of an important quality trait.
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Re-affirming Long-Term Support for Java in Amazon Linux - pritambarhate https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/compute/re-affirming-long-term-support-for-java-in-amazon-linux/ ====== jarym No real surprise - a lot of Java underpins AWS and a lot of enterprise customers that Amazon covet are Java shops. Keeping everyone happy for the sake of profit and market share. Only loser is Oracle who were a loser before so no change for them. ~~~ hunta2097 With so much hate for Oracle, how long before they crash? It's not like the hate for Apple, Microsoft or Google (which have enclaves of distrust) - in my experience Oracle seems _universally_ hated. ~~~ bayindirh We've bought some of their high end ZFS boxes. While I cannot comment for the hardware and experience (I temporarily left the team after we bought the HW), during the buying process I gained some valuable insight about them. It looks like, unlike Apple, Microsoft or Google they are motivated solely by the money. Not the monopoly, not the domination, not the technology, just the money. If they can earn the same amount of money, without doing anything, they will happily do that. Yes, they have very good technologies, but they are just built for the money. Every corporation is in for the money, but money is generally a byproduct of good services and technologies, however it's backwards for Oracle. Services, products, and technologies are a byproduct of money. Money is not needed for products. Products are needed for money. This is _why_ Oracle is used also as an acronym for Larry Ellison's character and material wealth. ~~~ manishsharan While that is true, I am under the impresssion OpenJDK project is mostly Oracle developers ~~~ pron That is correct. Oracle funds ~90% of OpenJDK development, and will continue to contribute most of the security patches (just not backport them). ------ InTheArena It’s good that Amazon (As well as IBM and Redhat which are supporting OpenJDK, and Microsoft which made a deal with Azul) are supporting Java... However, the writing is on the wall. Oracle is desperately trying to monetize Java, and they will be successful for a little bit, this also dilutes their control of the ecosystem. That can lead to fragmentation. It also changes the equation about what kind of adoption corporations will be willing to do with java, and not have a lawyer worry about a per-vCPU licensing term. We’ve started discussions about a long slow gradual transition from Java. I’m very very sure we are not the only one. ------ bradleyjg This is good news. Red Hat and IBM had already made similar announcements, but now that’s one company rather than two. Since we are talking about long term maintenance here, this is definitely a more the merrier situation. ------ chvid This is great. Seeming that Oracle's policy changes have caused other big player to step in and support Java in a convincing manner. I am not sure if that was Oracle's intent given the company's reputation but I think it actually might be ... ------ pritambarhate >> We are collaborating and contributing in the OpenJDK community to provide our customers with a free long-term supported Java runtime. So hopefully other distros will also be able to support OpenJDK8 for a few years to come. ------ stunt All of these comments are not necessarily fair about Oracle. They are moving faster in the last 2-3 years. ~~~ topspin They are also creating uncertainty. That AWS felt this announcement was necessary is evidence of that. Whatever goodwill Oracle may have created recently is paying off a vast deficit. They don't get the benefit of the doubt. ------ setquk Microsoft .Net team take note. ~~~ teget Classic .net deployments are regarded as system components, they will receive security updates as long as the supporting OS is supported(that's at least the sales pitch we received) So 4.6 on Windows 10 will be supported at least till 14th October 2025 and 4.7 on Windows 10 at least until 13th October 2026 (if you are willing to pay Microsoft for that) ~~~ sgift > (if you are willing to pay Microsoft for that) So ... same as with Oracle. The "if you are willing to pay" part is what people are crying about. ~~~ BjorksEgo This amazon release specifically says that amazon will only support up to 2023, what makes you think they won't do the same? ~~~ sokoloff The Amazon release promises support out to that date. There's fairly good business reason to think that, if OpenJDK continues to be popular and relevant (as I expect it will be), that Amazon will continue to extend that date, keeping it _roughly_ four to five years in the future each time. They're giving confidence in the long-term support of Java on their platform, not making an indefinite promise about the future. ~~~ setquk Also to note James Gosling works at Amazon since May '17\. They clearly have a vested interest in Java.
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Dear Facebook Employees - didizaja https://medium.com/@barryschnitt/dear-facebook-employees-7d01761e591f ====== sktrdie Presidents have all kinds of privileges that others don’t. Why should their privilege on social-media be diminished? To me the problem is not the platform but the fact that they have such exceptional privilege to begin with. ~~~ netsharc You know how some people are quiet in real life but are more open online? I think Trump is like that. IMO Without Twitter he wouldn't have the guts to spit out the stuff he's tweeted, he'd not have the balls to go before the press and actually say some of the vile things he's tweeted... ------ ycombonator Why the fit ? ------ spikefromspace How many of FB users would need to have adblockers and commit to never clicking on an ad in facebook to cause a big enough dip in revenue in Q2 (ends this month)? Especially given already depressed levels of online advertising spend. I don't mean this in a "lets take down FB" way but more of a "how can we force Zuckerberg to have more discussion/thought on this and brush it away?". My personal opinion is that FB should at least add some sort of fact check warning but definitely not censor content. ~~~ didizaja This a really interesting thought. I do wonder how much the quantity “big enough” would have to be in this case. With respect to adding fact checking, I 100% agree with you, but I’m conflicted over whether or not censoring should be a thing, because I think that censoring people is generally wrong, but also feel that it’s important to discourage inciting violence. ~~~ klyrs Facebook already censors plenty of its users for far milder speech than trump's wont. And let's be real, Facebook and Twitter couldn't deplatform the president if they tried. No matter where he goes, reporters will broadcast the hell out of it. All else fails, the white house has its own webpage that has historically been used to communicate with the public. ~~~ spikefromspace For me personally, its not just about Trump. I have lots of friends who share critical news without a source. I always encourage them to but of course who listens these days. So for me, even a short warning message on such posts could go a long way.
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Fidelity launches trade execution and custody for cryptocurrencies - prostoalex https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/fidelity-launches-trade-execution-and-custody-for-cryptocurrencies.html ====== corv I'm disappointed of HN comments whenever cryptocurrency topics come up. People are forgetting that Nakamoto Consensus is a legitimate CS breakthrough concerning the Byzantine Generals Problem. Is it acceptable to bash every stock in the Nasdaq just because a second tech bubble popped and some SV companies are behaving unscrupulously? Frenzied speculation brought about inadvertent side effects but these should not detract from the fact that significant advancements are continuously being researched and implemented. ~~~ gotocake The comments seem to honestly reflect the state of the technology, its environmental impact, the annoyance factor of its extreme adherents, the total lack of a really compelling non-ideological or criminal use case after more than a decade, and a deflating bubble. The insane gulf between the promises made by the “every day brings a new breakthrough” crowd and the reality of ICO’s and Bitcoin is vast, and hard to ignore. Blockchain is a neat idea, but presently it is used in ways that are far from compelling, and I’m yet to hear of a non-hypothetical application that could change that (apart from buying drugs, or money laundering). It’s also hard to forget the last few years of relentless evangelism, which was equal parts annoying and ethically challenged. ~~~ corv The comments reflect the (perceived) state of the technology. One has to admit that the reputation of the entire space has been tarnished by snake oil salesmen. For some historical context it is worth looking at countless examples such as the Railway Mania[1] of the 1840s or the more recent Dot-Com bubble[2]. For more depth one can read Mackay[3]. Some of the most promising advancements in payment channels were only published as papers in 2016[4] and are understandably still being implemented. If anything the speed at which enthusiasts are willing to deploy experimental software at their own risk is breathtaking. Regarding the environmental impact of the Bitcoin network, while being widely derided for its energy use, it is in fact using less electricity than the major credit card networks. It is also using less energy than global gold mining. There are ways to reduce consumption should a consensus accept the tradeoffs. The term "Blockchain" as it is currently used often refers to private chains which are in vogue with corporate stakeholders. This appears to be a solution in search of a problem–I have not been able to identify a compelling use case here either. Most ICOs are outright scams. It is truly unfortunate that promising advancements of micropayments, smart contracts and the world's closet thing to an incorruptible currency are lumped together with so much rubbish. [1][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Mania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Mania) [2][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot- com_bubble](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble) [3][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusion...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds) [4][https://lightning.network/lightning-network- paper.pdf](https://lightning.network/lightning-network-paper.pdf) ~~~ timmaxw > using less electricity than the major credit card networks I googled around for "Bitcoin vs. VISA energy consumption"; the only argument I found in favor of VISA using more is here [0]. This compares Bitcoin to the entire global banking system, including the cost of e.g. keeping the lights on at physical bank branches. It very approximately guesstimates that the entire global banking system requires ~100 TWh/year, compared to Bitcoin's ~30 TWh/year [1]. For comparison: all data centers worldwide combined use about ~400 TWh/year [2]. I very much doubt that the credit card networks account for 7% of all data center energy consumption. [0] [https://hackernoon.com/the-bitcoin-vs-visa-electricity- consu...](https://hackernoon.com/the-bitcoin-vs-visa-electricity-consumption- fallacy-8cf194987a50) [1] [https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/bitcoins- insane-...](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/bitcoins-insane- energy-consumption-explained/) [2] [https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2017/12/15/wh...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2017/12/15/why- energy-is-a-big-and-rapidly-growing-problem-for-data-centers/#701c2d815a30) ~~~ arcticbull @corv come on, even if we go with the incredibly generous hypothesis that Bitcoin alone currently uses 1/3 the energy of the entire global banking system including physical lamps at desks (!!!), it is still only providing a tiny, teeny, percentage of the value store or of transaction volume. It's not even remotely a fair comparison. It's like saying my car consumes 1/3 of the world's entire output of gasoline so it's way more efficient than the sum total of all the transportation on the planet. ~~~ corv I didn’t say it’s currently more efficient. I’m saying what it is designed to replace eventually, is already using more energy. Currencies are adopted and developed on a different time scale than most other technologies we are used to. Saying cryptocurrency has failed after being around for 10 years is shortsighted and not giving the incredible minds working on these problems enough credit. ~~~ arcticbull It's designed to be actively anti-efficient. The more efficient tech is deployed the _less efficient Bitcoin gets_. It's already atrocious, and it's going to get more-so, on purpose. What it's designed to replace is using more energy ( _maybe_ ) because it serves like 3 orders of magnitude more customers, value and transaction volume. A single BTC payment takes 826kWh of energy. Now, a MacBook Pro uses at most 85W, so for a single payment on Bitcoin network you could run your laptop for almost 10,000 hours -- or your house for a WEEK. That's stunning, and only going up (again, intentionally). Visa OTOH is around 41Wh per transaction, or 20,000x more efficient. ~~~ corv You’ve ignored second-layer technologies. There need be only one decentralized, immutable ledger to handle all transactions, the store of value and registration of assets for the entire planet. While we’re comparing Apples and Oranges, credit cards don’t confirm payments for weeks and there are significant fees associated with accepting transactions, apart from that risk for the merchant. ~~~ arcticbull Nope, I haven't. The anti-efficiency element applies to core Bitcoin no matter what you run on top of it. If you keep to the maximum 7tx/sec that's what you'll encounter. I can't imagine a world where no matter what you're running L2 that the system won't hit that incredibly low limit. Second layer technologies, in the form of exchanges, aren't blockchain at all. They're just varying degrees of fly-by-night bookkeeping and/or settlement. They require blockchain tokens as much as they require the dollar - not at all. There's no viable L2 technology right now that anyone is using (especially LN) yet, so it's too early to speculate. If I recall correctly it takes a traditional transaction to open a channel, and we're still capped at 7 per second. If there's 7.5 billion people on earth and we want to establish a channel for each of them, well, buckle up, we'll be here melting the Earth for 1.071 BILLION seconds, or 34 years. Just to open channels. Then another 34 years to close them. Here's a mathematical proof of the LN issues [1]. Hand-waving and pretending there's a path or some solution today means we're not even talking about objective reality anymore. [1] [https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/mathematical-proof- that-...](https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/mathematical-proof-that-the- lightning-network-cannot-be-a-decentralized-bitcoin-scaling- solution-1b8147650800) ------ pmorici I wonder if they are working with Coinbase behind the scenes on this or if this is a totally independent product. They have a partnership with Coinbase that lets you view your Coinbase balances from your account page on Fidelity. ------ SideburnsOfDoom In a gold rush, you get rich by selling shovels. You don't even have to have a strong opinion on whether there really is any gold to be found, in order to see the market opportunity for shovel sales. ------ tim333 They don't say if the custody is insured against loss/theft which has been a sticking point for institutional investors. They basically can't stick your money in unless it is, and none of the existing custodians have been. I can see why insurers are reluctant when it only takes one or two insiders to transfer the coins to some account they control and say oops we've been hacked. ------ Theodores As I understand it Fidelity have bought a chunk of Bitcoin and are currently trying to buy more. They actually do not care about price, they just need the coins so they can setup these new financial things they will let their bigger customers buy into, as part of the portfolio. The cold storage thing is no biggie, they will be holding their new and shiny bitcoins in many, many wallets. So a customer of theirs will be able to effectively buy one of these wallets rather than a stake in a nebulous fund. I have heard no mention of them wanting to buy the 'fake crptocurrencies', i.e. anything except 'bitcoin', which I think has appeal to their customers in a way that 'ethereum' or 'crypto-kitties' does not. But is this really progress? If a cafe has customers wanting some new fad food, e.g. 'kale and pulled pork burgers' and if they have staff that have bought into the 'kale and pulled pork' hype then they might as well add it to the menu. This is becoming a trope: "No one said when some of these early-stage Internet companies in 2000 were going out of business, 'Gee, the Internet is toast,'" Jessop said. "We don't focus too much on the price. It's a foundational technology — people are trying to get exposure to the trend and expect volatility in the assets themselves." Could be said about fidget spinners - they have only got started! In debating this point with a bitcoin 'bore' I was told that there was no innovation in the internet after the dot-com crash until 'ajax came along' and no 'new innovation' came along after that until the iphone came along. I didn't see it that way, but was it? ~~~ roymurdock Bitcoin is useful for evading currency controls, semi-anonymous digital payments, and speculation Blockchain is a new type of database that has larger applications that involve the tradeoff between efficiency and trust To answer your bigger question you have to ask yourself what you define as "progress" \- is Bitcoin/blockchain new? Yes. Is either useful? Sure, for people who are looking to move money around semi anonymously, enforce more expensive supply chain tracking solutions, or make money selling new financial products. Is that progress? If you, like me, don't see new database/financial engineering that benefits a small group of technologists and financiers as potentially equal in value to the raise in standard of living across huge sections of the world brought by electrification, refrigeration, antibiotics, internal combustion engines, public roads, and white goods, then you may be interested in this thesis: [https://www.nber.org/papers/w19895](https://www.nber.org/papers/w19895) "While no forecast of a future slowdown of innovation is needed, skepticism is offered here, particularly about the techno-optimists who currently believe that we are at a point of inflection leading to faster technological change. The paper offers several historical examples showing that the future of technology can be forecast 50 or even 100 years in advance and assesses widely discussed innovations anticipated to occur over the next few decades, including medical research, small robots, 3-D printing, big data, driverless vehicles, and oil-gas fracking." ~~~ village-idiot Blockchains aren’t new, they’re over a decade old at this point. And in what applications are blockchains superior to centralized applications? ~~~ seibelj Keeping track of an asset without a centralized authority? That’s the point of a blockchain - a sliding scale where increasing decentralization causes a decrease in efficiency, where the trade off makes sense. ~~~ beefield > Keeping track of an asset without a centralized authority? Question was: "And in what applications are blockchains superior to centralized applications?" You really did not answer the question. What is the application where it is superior to track the asset without central authority? (I come up with criminal money transfers. I hope someone comes up with something else because I do not think that is too solid a foundation to build a sustainable technology...) ~~~ seibelj No fees to middlemen, enabling micro-payments at scale (obviously need to drastically reduce blockchain fees, but that is an area of active development). Elimination of charge-backs and a huge amount of fraud, especially in industries that have an abnormally high level of fraud. Borderless payments. The highest density of wealth storage ever invented. Completely different threat model for theft with its own pros and cons. Everyone immediately jumps to the criminal aspects. The existing financial system has absolutely no problem handling all the crime, the blockchain did not invent money laundering.[0] [0] [https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/19/danske- bank...](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/19/danske-bank-chief- resigns-over-money-laundering-scandal) ~~~ roymurdock There are fees with bitcoin - the transactions that leave higher fees for the miners get processed quicker. If you don't include fees with your transaction it could take hours to be bundled into a verified block. People, myself included, jump to the criminal aspects because those are the only real world applications that are currently creating value for Bitcoin "users" (vs. speculators). Getting around borders/currency controls is valuable because it's hard to do/illegal, and Bitcoin makes it easier. The rest of the things you listed such as "highest density of wealth storage every invented" and "completely different threat model" are not use cases, and are not inherently good/bad, just different (and actually usually bad when optimizing for verification speed/efficiency and transaction clearance over chargebacks/fraud) PS did you get hired into the crypto/blockchain world, or just more optimistic after doing research? I remember us being in agreement / you being skeptical about it before ~~~ seibelj > There are fees with bitcoin - the transactions that leave higher fees for > the miners get processed quicker. If you don't include fees with your > transaction it could take hours to be bundled into a verified block. As I said, the fee issue is being worked on (scaling, layer 2 networks) but that's a potential of the technology. > People, myself included, jump to the criminal aspects because those are the > only real world applications that are currently creating value for Bitcoin > "users" I simply disagree, if you want me to enumerate all the use cases that aren't criminal I can, but google can help. > The rest of the things you listed such as "highest density of wealth storage > every invented" and "completely different threat model" are not use cases, > and are not inherently good/bad, just different (and actually usually bad > when optimizing for verification speed/efficiency and transaction clearance > over chargebacks/fraud) Yes, it is a different sort of tradeoff, that may be useful in some cases. It's novel. > PS did you get hired into the crypto/blockchain world, or just more > optimistic after doing research? I remember us being in agreement / you > being skeptical about it before I have posted a lot on cryptocurrency, I have been in the industry for a while, but I am not universally optimistic about all things crypto. But overall I am bullish. ~~~ beefield >if you want me to enumerate all the use cases that aren't criminal I can. Could you start with one? And I mean one that is obviously superior to centralized solutions? What are the measures that make blockchain superior in this use case and why a centralized solution can't achieve those measures? Why the tradeoffs in other measures are insignificant? Let's further assume that decentralization itself is not an acceptable measure. ~~~ stale2002 Do you think that TOR is useless then? Do you not see the value of censorship resistance? There are billions of people in the world currently living under repressive governments. The world does not revolve around the western world with all of our privileged freedoms. ~~~ beefield I already accepted that blockchain offers value in criminal money transfers. Obviously censorship resistance is criminal in repressive regimes. It just is a bit difficult in western world to sell a product whose only actual value proposition is criminal money transfer. ~~~ icelancer I think if you were the target (or initiator) of legal actions that don't involve criminality on your end but do involve discovery, you would think a lot differently about pseudonymous payments, and potentially encrypted communications. Speaking as someone involved in three active civil lawsuits, trust me when I say criminality is not the only reason to hide things. Being subjected to the discovery process where adversaries can uncover things about your personal life is an experience that will change most peoples' feelings about all things privacy. ------ omegaworks More capital wasted to entrench a fairly useless commodity[1] that requires electrical energy expenditure that rivals entire nations' usages[2]. We are bounding toward climate catastrophe and our largest institutions are taking stakes in actively destructive tulips. 1\. [https://www.tik.ee.ethz.ch/file/74bc987e6ab4a8478c0495061661...](https://www.tik.ee.ethz.ch/file/74bc987e6ab4a8478c04950616612f69/main.pdf) [pdf] 2\. [https://www.wired.co.uk/article/how-much-energy-does- bitcoin...](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/how-much-energy-does-bitcoin- mining-really-use) ~~~ seibelj The energy is available on the free market. Or acquired for the express purpose of blockchain mining (I.e. new geothermal energy created specifically for this industry and impractical to transmit other places). If you want to ban bitcoin mining because it “wastes” energy, there is an argument to be made for banning any industry not absolutely necessary for society because it destroys the planet. Why do we have sports stadiums? Rock concerts? Car racing? The other argument is that what bitcoin achieves through mining is only possible with financial institutions, the court system, and so on. What power does that system use? And finally, new innovations will likely end PoW mining for some major block chains like Ethereum, but it is extremely doubtful bitcoin will ever switch. Also, your first link is a white paper on scaling unrelated to the statement that bitcoin is a “useless commodity”, so I’m not sure why you are using it to back up your assertion. ~~~ omegaworks The paper describes the problems inherent to bitcoin. I think blockchain might be a good fit for some things, but bitcoin makes a terrible currency. The relevant section: >Today’s representative blockchain such as Bitcoin takes 10 min or longer to confirm transactions, achieves 7 transactions/sec maximum throughput. In comparison, a mainstream payment processor such as Visa credit card confirms a transaction within seconds, and processes 2000 transactions/sec on average, with a peak rate of 56,000 transactions/secnsactions/sec on average, with a peak rate of 56,000 transactions/sec ~~~ seibelj That doesn't mean it's useless, it's just that the current state of the technology does not have the same throughput as other technologies in regards to payment processing. Bitcoin has many other aspects that make it more than a "useless commodity", which wasn't implied by the linked article or the fact you quoted. ~~~ omegaworks >it's just that the current state of the technology does not have the same throughput as other technologies in regards to payment processing. This makes it an extremely poor currency. It is also an extremely poor distributed linked list with that throughput. If you use the energy resources of a small country just to get 7 transactions per second _max_ recorded in a ledger, you've failed as a system designer. If the intent was to create a currency, Satoshi failed. If the intent was to create a white elephant, Satoshi succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. If our largest institutions are buying in, we will be collectively saddled with the maintenance of the network for the foreseeable future. ------ pastor_elm great time to get in on the dip ------ Immortalin Time to add crypto support to KloudTrader :) [https://kloudtrader.com/narwhal](https://kloudtrader.com/narwhal)
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Internet Explorer’s new official mascot is a robot-fighting anime heroine - markdunphy http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/11/06/internet-explorers-new-official-mascot-inori-aizawa-cute-robot-fighting-anime-heroine/ ====== Vaskivo (Disclaimer: I haven't see the video) This is an old Japanese meme known as "OS-tan"[1], meaning something like "Operating System girl". It has branched out to consoles, mobile OS's and browsers. It's interesting to see Microsoft using the meme to generate some buzz and start some major marketing (Mascots are HUGE in Japan). On the other hand, that article is just lazy, and lacks research. It just stated that Aizawa exists, what is written in the official page and nothing more. I was expecting something about the meme so people don't think this is some "insane" or "genious" publicity stunt. It's just Microsoft riding a known fad. It's interesting to see an old company like them adopting internet culture. I'm curious to see what follows this. [1]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-tan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS- tan) EDIT: After posting this I started exploring. The character creator's page in much more interesting than the article: [http://www.collateralds.com/news/random/the-story-of- aizawa-...](http://www.collateralds.com/news/random/the-story-of-aizawa- inori/) ------ Segmentation Here's the video of the anime: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTUlF7NA2o](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTUlF7NA2o)
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Japanese Toilets: The Future Called 30 Years Ago - ranebo http://blog.hopefullyuseful.com/blog/2014/04/04/the-future-called-30-years-ago/ ====== enko After using the toilet, do you wash your hands, or just wipe them? You've just demonstrated why washing toilets are superior. I cannot understand our misplaced, hollow pride in not adopting something which simply works better. I've even heard some especially crazy people try to say the japanese toilets are "perverted" \- the hold tradition has on some people is just insane. Japanese toilets are simply better. For some bizarre reason we've resisted adopting them here. It boggles the mind. ~~~ gtaylor I gave in and ordered a bidet a year ago. Not wanting to commit to some of the expensive options, I opted for the $25 Astor Bidet: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPGPUW/](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPGPUW/) Installation involved adding a T-adapter to my sink's cold water line. The whole setup takes about 5-10 minutes if you know what you're doing, or about 30 if you don't. Even if you know nothing about plumbing, you can install this thing with some patience (and probably in well under an hour). I've been very happy overall. There are lots of similar bidets for varying prices, but the core functionality can be had for $25. I haven't felt the desire to spend any more, this thing just works. We go through a lot less toilet paper, though we still use some for the drying. This may be too much information, but I do feel subjectively much cleaner. When we travel somewhere without a bidet, it's definitely on the edge of my mind that I miss my setup at home. I do get weird looks when we have company, but who cares. Continue smearing poop on your butts, heathens. ~~~ colin_jack "Continue smearing poop on your butts, heathens." It is odd that whilst we use specially designed water jets and cleaning products to bathe our approach to bottom hygiene is just to keep scrubbing till there is nothing visible left. Anyway looks like a good device, thanks for the link. ~~~ rainedin Not having foot taps is another huge bug bear of mine. Especially in public places. ------ srean I find health faucets [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet_shower](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet_shower) quite effective, except that one time it went terribly wrong. These are essentially telephone showers installed next to the toilet. You switch them on using a valve/trigger and then manually direct the fire. Simple, cheap and no fuss. This little guy, however, turned out to be a closet fire hose. It pretty much went from 0 to 1000 gallons per sec in an instant and just wouldn't let up, the valve was stuck. The extension cord was twisting and coiling around like crazy with the released pressure, the shower head was going at full blast in my hand, initially directed at my rear, it was continuously pushing my hand away from anything that I was trying to point it to, it give me a visceral understanding of how jet engines work. Working out a sequence of operations in my head to get out of such a situation while caught in a compromised and inflexible position, with only one hand free, was quite a challenge. I am not quite sure if I should be thankful that it wasnt autonomously powered and directed. My first Japanese toilet experience happened @ Google (I was interning there at that time). When the water touched the derriere, it made me flinch and jump with surprise, as I wasnt quite sure what to expect, this was several years ago and Japanese toilets were still an unfamiliar opbject to me. And it really tickles the shit out of you ! (no pun intended) I guess there are ways to choose between a laminar and degrees of non laminar flow (all those controls must be for something), I would expect the former to be somewhat less flinch inducing. ------ veidr This is one of those things that long-time expats that live in Japan often take back with them when they leave. Another is the practice of removing your (utterly filthy, inevitably) outdoor shoes when you enter the house. I read Shogun as a kid (great book, for a little kid) and going back home to the USA and using the toilet there always reminds me of the scenes where the European sailors that shipwrecked in Japan sit around scratching their fleas and scoffing at the Japs' grotesque habit of bathing every day... _gross_ ~~~ kiba Never met any Americans/westerners/etc who wear shoes in the house. They all walk barefoot. ~~~ veidr Yes, the overwhelming majority of Americans in the USA do wear shoes in the house. I myself did it too, until age 19 (when I moved to Japan). [http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Consumer/story?id=5177409](http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Consumer/story?id=5177409) [http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/18ekqf/as_a_canad...](http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/18ekqf/as_a_canadian_do_americans_really_wear_their/) [http://www.quora.com/Do-real-Americans-wear-shoes-indoors- as...](http://www.quora.com/Do-real-Americans-wear-shoes-indoors-as-portrayed- in-sitcom-TV-shows) [https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101011193926A...](https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101011193926AA37Ox3) ~~~ slyall It is actually a really strange thing. There seems to be pockets of people in various countries that either wear shoes inside or not but can't imagine doing the opposite and assumes everybody in their city/state/country is like them. Interesting point: You also never see people on TV shows and movies taking their shoes off when they go to a house but I imagine this might be mainly due to the show not wanting to break up the action. ~~~ pedrosorio The question is: do you often see people taking their shoes off when they go to a house on Japanese TV shows and movies? ~~~ veidr Yes, you do. It would be weird enough not to that it would jar the suspension of disbelief. ------ ragle When I first came to Thailand, I was appalled when one of my friends told me the pistol nozzle (like we use in the US for doing dishes) next to every Thai toilet[1] was for spraying yourself after using the bathroom. This was disgusting to me at first. Echoing a few other comments, I feel like a bidet is something you have to experience yourself before you trust it. Once you do though, I think you are forever changed. On my last trip back to the states, I remember feeling perpetually disgusted that all I had to clean myself with was paper. It's disgusting - barbaric even... you're just smearing waste all over yourself. If you don't feel like spending the money to install a Japanese bidet, a Thai "bum gun" might be a more wallet-friendly option. [1] - [http://thatluckyboy.com/wp- content/uploads/2013/05/bum_gun_t...](http://thatluckyboy.com/wp- content/uploads/2013/05/bum_gun_tribute1.jpg) ~~~ tricolon Those are ubiquitous in Northern Europe as well—yes, including all public bathrooms. ~~~ ardacinar Are you sure about Northern Europe? I live in Sweden and I haven't encountered anything like that here. (They are common in Finland, though) ------ rikacomet One thing I haven't really understood is why exactly is a Indian toilet seat seen as inferior to the English toilet seat. \- True that the English seat occupies less space, but its adoption has not always been based on space savings. \- True that sitting appears more gentleman like, rather than sitting half subtended in air, but hey who is watching? \- True that elderly find the english version easier to use because of the supporting nature of the seat, but its not a hard rule. A hybrid of both (Anglo-Indian) seat is more suited to them, and ailing patients. \- The Indian version is more hygienic, as no part of your body directly touches any part of the seat. Besides superior genital cleanliness over time due to wider leg positions. \- The Indian version is decisively easier to clean/maintain compared to the English version. \- Moreover the Indian version, is more suited to over-weight people than a English version. \- And relatively, due to its production in labor intensive market such as India/China, the Indian version is cost-efficient, suited for developing nations, who still have a fairly large population that needs proper sanitation structures. ~~~ enscr \- Plus squatting is a better posture for properly emptying yourself. Although sitting for longer than 5 minutes is painful and gets worse with age. ~~~ rikacomet Yeah, that drawback can be seen as a JUST motivation for not taking your time in the toilet always. Even 5 minutes saved one time, is equal to 10-15 minutes everyday. 70-100 minutes a week and around 60-90 hours a year to put that into perspective. ~~~ sjtrny I find my time on the toilet quite productive, it's usually when I have Eureka moments. ~~~ rikacomet I figured so, occasionally it is the same for me. But I didn't say everyone should be saving time. ------ wting Another thing that gets overlooked is the built-in faucet at the top to rinse off hands such that every tank of water gets used twice: [http://demenglog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/toilet- seat-...](http://demenglog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/toilet-seat- topcimg0688--large--my-japan-blog-pwtuo0c4.jpg) ~~~ hudibras And _another_ thing that gets overlooked is that the toilet is always in a separate room from the rest of the bathroom (washbasin and tub). It seems weird at first that you have to go down the hall into a phonebooth-sized compartment to do your business. But then you go back to visit family in America and can't stop noticing that you poop 3 feet away from where you brush your teeth... ~~~ silencio I actually have that in my apartment in SF. It may be because it's a three bedroom place with only one bath though. It's nice because someone can use the toilet while the shower is in use, but then you have to walk to the kitchen to wash your hands....wish someone had the foresight to add the faucet-top toilet ;) ~~~ stbtrax why not add it yourself? ------ rahimnathwani If you're thinking about buying one of these, I can highly recommend the Toto S300e ([http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009IJ2LM4](http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009IJ2LM4)) or, if you live in Asia, the TCF4722CS ([http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=23047236820](http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=23047236820)). These 'washlet' toilet seats can be retro-fitted to normal toilets. It's really easy as long as the flush-water inlet to your toilet has a standard fitting. Oh, and assuming you have a suitable power socket near the toilet. The manual recommends a GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupter) socket. ~~~ wting There are also cheaper compromises that only replace the toilet lid instead of the entire toilet and without requiring a hot water line. I bought this version last year for $250 but it's $350 now: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005XNW1Q0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?...](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005XNW1Q0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B005XNW1Q0&linkCode=as2&tag=0xgfeujusf-20) ~~~ rahimnathwani "There are also cheaper compromises that only replace the toilet lid instead of the entire toilet and without requiring a hot water line." Both the models I recommended are of this type (they are just a seat, and they don't require a hot water line). I considered the model you recommended. The main reason I went for the higher- priced models is that they are higher-power, and can heat the incoming water in real-time. The more inexpensive Toto models are lower power, but compensate by having a built-in tank to store water. I guessed (but did not verify) that, on occasion, the tank could run out of hot water before I was done. Does the tank on the B100 always have enough hot water for you? ~~~ wting > Does the tank on the B100 always have enough hot water for you? Yup, it was enough for my pregnant wife when she was staying at home. ------ impendia I remember my first visit to a Japanese toilet. I noticed all the buttons after I finished my business and stood up. _Wow! What do these do?_ I bent over the toilet bowl and pushed a button at random... ~~~ w00kie All Japanese models have a pressure sensor built into the seat so that no water comes out unless someone is actually sitting on the toilet. ~~~ Aloisius That was decidedly not the case when I first visited Japan in 2001. The jet of water that hit the door to the bathroom was quite wet by the time I figured out how to shut the toilet off. ~~~ prawn A bidet in a London hotel around 2003 managed to hit me in the eye. I was a clear metre from the bowl. A mistake you make once and then not again! ------ harichinnan I was about to sleep but definitely had to add my contribution to bum washing. Most Indian toilets have a water faucet next to your seat. You always wash with water using your left hand(Right one is reserved for more auspicious occasions like eating food or shaking hands). I still remember the horror of my first trip to US and finding that you have to use rough sheets of paper to essentially scrath it off. But on the flip side, toilets in India are always damp and dirty with filthy cess pools of mold and .... God help you if you ever have to use a public toilet in India. ------ CGudapati You will probably hate me for giving some graphic details but I had never used Toilet paper for the first 21 years of my life.(I am 22 BTW). I didn't even use a bidet. Just my left hand and water. I know this might be considered very disgusting but it is very common from where I am. ~~~ MarkTee I'm curious: Did you first try using toilet paper in another country/region, or it something that has recently been introduced to where you grew up? ~~~ CGudapati I still don't use toilet paper. I used one when I had access to it(in a hotel). I knew toilet paper existed as once when I saw it in movies or read about it. ~~~ Omniusaspirer Can I inquire as to where you grew up? I've genuinely never heard of anyone using just their hand, but I suppose it makes sense for poorer parts of the world. (no offense intended whatsoever) ~~~ CGudapati India. No offense taken. FWIW, I can afford toilet paper. I just don't use it as I am habituated to using my hand. In case you are wondering, I can guarantee that the number of people who use their hand to clean their bottoms is much more than the combined population of USA. ------ Theodores _Sorry to sound 'negative', but..._ I don't know if this is the way the future is going to pan out - water is an increasingly scarce resource and, as it is, we waste a gallon or so of water to lift one's leavings up and over the u-bend. Of all people Bill Gates is probably the expert on what toilets will really be like in the future, allegedly water, toilets, sanitation and health is something he is most interested in. Personally, although I am not into 'standing desks' I am into 'standing toilets', as in the humble urinal. One's aim is easier and there is no seat to remember to put down for the next user. Less water is wasted. I would want one at home so as to avoid 'female complaints' regarding the state of things. Ideally the outflow from the adjacent sink would keep it clean so water wastage really would be minimal. It would be in a room of its own, a very small room with no need for anyone female to ever enter it. I recently replaced an extractor fan in a bathroom. I thought that a quiet fan would be preferable and I was disappointed with the noise made. However, then I realised the real purpose of the fan, it is to make noise to disguise the sound of one leaving one's leavings. I believe that the Japanese toilets have some of this functionality too. Can anyone confirm that? ~~~ Taylorious I suppose it depends on where you live. If you live in Arizona it might end up being an issue due to the energy cost of processing the water for reuse. However, if you live in Chicago you aren't going to have a shortage of water anytime soon. I don't really get these water shortage scares people talk about. I can see how it is an issue in remote/poor areas around the world, but a country like the US has nothing to worry about. If fresh water reserves get low we can always desalinate seawater. There are engineering challenges and energy costs to do that, but both are solvable issues. No one is going to die from thirst. ~~~ kissickas I think a large part of the problem is that it's a "tragedy of the commons" situation. We won't see a huge investment in better recycling and desalinization until it's absolutely required, which would mean that we've already destroyed some aquifers permanently, in some places causing entire aquifers to become unrecoverable [0]. No one is going to die from thirst? Maybe. But a lot of the water loss is in the food-producing middle of the country. People are already starving in the US, and increased food prices will only exacerbate the situation. [1] [0] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquifer#Subsidence](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquifer#Subsidence) (sections subsidence, saltwater intrusion, and salination) [1] [https://water.usgs.gov/edu/gwdepletion.html](https://water.usgs.gov/edu/gwdepletion.html) ------ smokey_the_bear In the spirit of too much information that is this thread. I was given a lavette bottle after giving birth, and I've continued using it quite often. [http://www.amazon.com/Lavette-Bottle-Perineal-Irrigation- DYN...](http://www.amazon.com/Lavette-Bottle-Perineal-Irrigation- DYND70125H/dp/B000VSXSX2/) It's an even cheaper alternative to the cold water attachment, it's portable, and you can fill it with warm water. ~~~ AjithAntony This seems interesting. It looks like a regular sports bottle. The comments on that item suggest there are more and smaller holes than a single large opening, for a better flow for this application. Is that the only difference? How does one use it? Is there a straw inside that draws from the bottom of the bottle? Do you need to position it upright, or upside down? These two seem more natural to use, If you didn't have your bottle already, would one of these be more interesting? [http://www.amazon.com/Hygienna-Solo-Portable-Cleaning- Soluti...](http://www.amazon.com/Hygienna-Solo-Portable-Cleaning- Solution/dp/B00CDPCHLU/) [http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Bidet- BB-20-Portable/dp/B004IW5IT...](http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Bidet- BB-20-Portable/dp/B004IW5ITO) ~~~ smokey_the_bear The number, shape, and size of holes seem well suited for the bottle's purpose. There's no straw, but you can hold it upright or upside down as long as it's not close to empty. I think I would buy the same one I have over one of those. For this application, I think I value simplicity. Women might have slightly different requirements for this than men too. ------ bane Japanese (and increasingly Korean) toilets are amazing. I love visiting my in- laws and just using their toilets and feeling unbelievably civilized. My wife, refuses to get one, or even the fancy seat attachments because...tbh...they're freaking expensive. I can basically refit all the toilets in my house for less than the discount price for a single seat...and that's not including the cost of the electrician to put a power source near just one of my toilets. There's also lots of research in her home country that women shouldn't use the bidets in these toilets for various reasons particular to their anatomy. To compare, a Glacier Bay 2-piece high efficiency dual flush elongated toilet is <$100 at my local home depot. Toto Washlet S350e seat with heated seat and warm water bidet is $1,700. I frequently see cheaper Korean versions at my local Asian Market for $800-1200. I saw one at Costco for $650 the other day. If they want to penetrate the market, they need to drop the price significantly, corner the market, then start cranking the price up faster than inflation. ------ Natsu In case anyone was curious, ビデ is read as "bidet" (i.e. squirt water up your ass). This among the many reasons why it's helpful to at least learn to read kana before visiting, as it makes a lot of things easier--there are an awful lot of English words written in kana that you can decipher (well, French in this particular case, but you get the point I hope). ~~~ ranebo Actually bidet button is usually for women, I wouldn't advise pressing it unless you are one, or you will get a blast of water significantly forward of the desired target. おしり(oshiri) is the button thats useful to both sexes. ------ jonahx Maybe the hold traditional toilets have on us is another example of the triumph of "worse is better." Whatever else you want to say about them, they are closer to the UNIX tradition than Japanese toilets. ------ drderidder Japanese baths are great, too - you can wash your body before getting into the tub, so you're not stewing in your own filth. ~~~ dagurp In Iceland you are required to wash before entering a swimming pool. you're likely to be stopped by an employee if you don't ------ chx Toto makes _travel washlets_. Imagining travel without one is like trying to remember how we used to code before Google and Stackoverflow: yes we did it, for sure, but I just can't fathom how. It's also a relatively cheap and easy way to get acquianted with this nice facet of civilization. There are other travel washlets, not made by Toto, skip those. Search eBay for toto travel washlet, less than $100 shipped. I had a particularly bad day at a London client onsite and out of sheer desperation Googled for travel washlet (I have one normal at home and was missing it badly), not that I had any idea how you would even construct one but lo and behold, there it is. ~~~ silencio I would imagine peri bottles (or close enough, any kind of squeeze bottle) would do something similar in a pinch. I've only heard girlfriends with kids rave about them since it's usually only used after pregnancy, but (to be a bit TMI) pre-IUD years when I had periods, travel squeeze bottles totally saved the day for when wet wipes felt inadequate and I couldn't easily shower. ------ rikthevik Make sure you flush before you hit the "blow hot air" button. :/ ------ frozenport I wonder what the effect on overall hygiene is? I wash my hands after every bowl movement, in total (shower, etc) I wash them every 5 hours. Will people now wash their hands less? ------ PavlovsCat The future? What about the past? Washing your butt so it's clean = yeah, that's pretty cool. Eating the right food (and being lucky to have good digestion) so that normally the paper you wipe with comes up white = priceless. Of course you'll have to wash your hands, but still, we're not hardwired to make a mess every time we defecate. Maybe you could say that's excessive smoke indicating the engine isn't running right. Japanese toilets aren't a fix, they're a workaround. ------ ekianjo By the way "bidet" is a french word in the first place and it has nothing to do with washing your arse :) Bidets are small bathtubs-shaped vessels where you actually wash your feet. The reason they existed is because in the past people didn't wash their whole body every single day, and instead they cleaned at least the most dirty / odorant parts of their bodies this way, more often. ~~~ mkempe Actually, the "bidet" is an invention from the early 1700s that was specifically designed to wash intimate parts. The etymology of the word indicates that the bidet is something one rides, by analogy with a small horse. [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=bidet](http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=bidet) [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet_(meuble)](http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet_\(meuble\)) ------ ChuckMcM FWIW this was one of the 'tour questions' on Google which had (at least when I was there) several bathrooms equipped with washlets. It really is a nice thing, and one of the engineers put a WattsUp meter on one to see if it was wasting power (answer quite economical). Of course in California using water to wash yourself in a drought is probably the wrong thing to do ... ------ LVB I tried, liked and missed Japanese toilets. I certainly wasn't going to be installing a $1000 Toto in my house, but I waited too long to take a chance on a cheap bidet. For <$50 you can get a bidet on Amazon which, though little more than a valve and a spout, works pretty well. ~~~ gtaylor $25 and has been good enough for me. No warm water line, but you can spend $20 more for one that has that if you care. [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPGPUW/](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPGPUW/) ------ ntaso Questions, I couldn't find an answer to: How do you make sure that the water doesn't merely distribute your feces all over your butt? How do women prevent that feces get sprayed onto or even into their vagina, since the water seems to be coming from the rear side of the toilet? ------ gggggggg On reading that it seems like you use paper still. I didnt realise this. Do you use the normal paper before or after the water? Seems like after water and drying to me, but potentially much less? Also, does it do away with the need for women wiping after a pee? ------ theli Never been to Japan, but from description its the same type of toilets they have in South Korea. Yeah, feel much cleaner, I wonder how is it hard to get same setup in US ------ drak0n1c This guy uses the bidet before wiping? Whenever I'm in Japan I wipe before bidet, that way at least the initial blast of water doesn't spread too much gunk. ------ masahiro The most important thing to make Japanese office life happy is to provide a latest Japanese toilets. They do care about it a lot! ------ grifpete I have one. I'll never go back. ------ nkozyra "disinterested" >:(
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NoScript and other popular Firefox add-ons open millions to new attack - sprucely http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/04/noscript-and-other-popular-firefox-add-ons-open-millions-to-new-attack/ ====== techthroway443 So disable the top 10 Firefox extensions listed here until a new patch comes out? [https://addons.mozilla.org/en- US/firefox/extensions/?sort=us...](https://addons.mozilla.org/en- US/firefox/extensions/?sort=users) ~~~ detaro Then you have to disable all extensions, because others might be vulnerable as well. If you only install trustworthy extensions (whatever that is :/) and can avoid installing a malicious one, it doesn't matter if the other installed ones are vulnerable. You have to install a malicious one to trigger it, they just use the vulnerabilities in other extensions to hide from review.
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Understanding Idioms Requires Both Sides Of The Brain - fogus http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090914194654.htm ====== sophacles I wonder if this is why certain idioms are considered "stronger" or "more vivid" than saying the same thing directly. Since these idioms take advantage of the right-brain, which is also responsible for emotion etc., it seems reasonable to me that the emotional connotations of a particular idiom are directly activated instead of thru a translation layer (language centers of the left brain).
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'I was falsely branded a paedophile' - jacquesm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7326736.stm ====== jrockway It's time for society to realize that "accused of a crime" does not mean "guilty". It should be illegal to fire someone because they are accused of a crime. (And if your parents disown you, it means you have damn bad parents who you are probably better off without.) ~~~ ErrantX Damn straight on the employment thing. Suspension is reasonable in certain cases (say you work in a bank and are suspected of fraud) But sacking? Hell no. ~~~ dantheman You should be able to fire someone for any reason. It's immoral to fire people accused of crime, you should treat your employees with respect, but there should be no law involved. ~~~ xiaoma > _You should be able to fire someone for any reason._ I disagree. You shouldn't be able to fire someone for being Jewish. You shouldn't be able to fire someone for not voting how you want them to. You shouldn't be able to fire someone for not having sex with you. There are a lot of things that you shouldn't be able to fire someone for. ~~~ dantheman If you don't like Jewish people and it's your company you shouldn't have to work with them. It will only hurt you as you are limiting your labor pool to non-Jewish people, and this is the same for any other form of discrimination. The only place that should not be allowed to discriminate is the government since they represent all people. Freedom of association is the key hear, you should be able t o associate with anyone you'd like to and vice-versa. Now I'm of course not advocating any sort of discrimination, but I do think it should be allowed. Just as I don't advocate hate speech, but I think it should be allowed. ~~~ xiaoma Firing Jewish people doesn't just hurt the bigoted employer, it hurts the people wrongfully fired, too! There is something appealing to letting everyone keep to whatever groups they wish, but historically the idea has led to horrible things for the shunned groups. ~~~ dantheman Agreed, it hurts everyone involved -- just as hate speech does. As for the history of discrimination, I believe that the majority of it was actually codified into law. So, I don't know if we can blame individuals acting on their own. Has there ever been a group that was shunned where it wasn't codified into law/sponsored by the government? ~~~ pyre "Irish Need Not Apply" was a common sign to see in America when there were a lot of Irish immigrants (Irish Potato Famine era). > _Has there ever been a group that was shunned where it wasn't codified into > law/sponsored by the government?_ What comes first though? The government is made up of people. So people have to have these attitudes first and foremost before it becomes codified into law. If the public violently disagreed with said laws, then they would be repealed as wildly unpopular. ------ cousin_it So someone in Indonesia, using only a computer with Internet access, got a man in England arrested, labeled a pedo and disowned by his employers and family? We live in interesting times indeed. Hey guys, I live in Moscow, wanna set up a little extortion racket? I hear it's pretty easy to buy stolen credit card numbers in bulk. ...And also I'd like to go on record saying that the real villains in this story are those who fan up public hysteria about child porn. ------ philk _"I made the mistake of telling my father, and he cut me off," Mr Bunce says. "He then told all my siblings and they also cut us off."_ _"I've forgiven them [my family] - there's no point in bearing a grudge."_ His family seems pretty loathsome and reconciling with them after the fact seems like a waste of time. ~~~ jacquesm Yes, but even if your family can be pretty loathsome for some people they're all they've got. If my family did something like this to me or to any other family member of mine then I'd disown them instead. Reprehensible doesn't even begin to cover it, if you are family and you can't even wait for the verdict to be in before having a hanging party then it's really sad. ~~~ shrikant Why wait for the verdict? Ask and accept his word for it as best you can. ------ llimllib > Each computer has a unique internet protocol number, or IP address, which > identifies the specific computer and its geographic whereabouts whenever it > is used to access the internet. I'm surprised nobody here has responded to this complete falsehood in the article. Did this paragraph bother anybody else? ~~~ derefr An IP address is only assigned to one computer _at a time_. If you have a (recent) timestamp, you can resolve the IP address to a MAC address (and customer account number/address) by subpoenaing the ISP. You might get a router/gateway/proxy, but that's still "one computer" and you've still found it. It's just not the one you wanted. ~~~ llimllib In the context of the article, the "it" in "whenever it is used to access the internet." refers to the computer that you're using, not your gateway or some proxy machine. Also, it's not true that an IP address is only assigned to one computer at a time; the IP address 10.0.0.1 is assigned to a whole lot of computers right now. You and I know that, and understand why it's true, but the article implies (pretty directly) that an IP address is a unique identifier for a computer. Which is a widely-believed falsehood that drives me crazy. ~~~ derefr 10.0.0.1 isn't actually an unqualified "IP address", though; it's specifically a _virtual_ IP address, which should really be dichotomous to "real" IP addresses, not considered a subset of them. Besides, they never said _globally_ unique. Your IP uniquely identifies you to whatever network you're participating on, the same way your username uniquely identifies you to whatever website you're logging into. Alternate ending: In the context of the article, they were talking about tracing people via their IPs, as recorded in the logs of Internet-routable ("public facing") servers. The only kinds of IPs such a log would record are other real IPs; there's no real way it could see a virtual IP. Thus, whatever is in the log is "good enough" for pointing the finger at _someone_ , whether that someone is a person, a company, or an ISP. The goal of such a trace is to pass the buck, not to catch the person yourself. ~~~ olefoo There are all sorts of ways in which a routable ip address can be shared. At the most basic, a pair of routers or load-balancers sharing a virtual ip using CARP. And you can do weird and wacky things if you control an entire routable netblock ( /24 or larger) using bgp to tell different peers to route it to different gateways etc. Most of the time you can get away with thinking of an address as being tied (at least temporarily) to a particular location. But once you throw in things like NAT and proxying and the like... That abstraction starts to look more and more sieve-like. An ip address in a web-servers logs isn't going to tell you much, for one thing it's probably not the address of a specific device; it's going to be the address of a gateway that does address translation for a private subnet; for another, what happens if the machine on the client end of the transaction is acting as a proxy for the real eventual destination of that stream of bits? In digital forensics, an IP is only one piece of evidence; you need to be able to assemble lots of pieces to get a complete picture. ------ danskil This is really horrible, but i can't help but be reminded of the episode of "The IT Crowd" Where the lead character goes on a date with Peter File. Just goes to show how much value all societies place on titles, no matter how un- deserved. ~~~ colonelxc Wow, that is the first thing I thought of too. That's the terrible thing about even being accused of a crime (regardless of your innocence), it can still destroy your life. Even if it's not a bad title (as in this case), just having to defend your own innocence can have high costs (both legal and emotional). ------ mynameishere _who now sells encryption services_ Also: How to use the internet through Indonesian proxies and install OSes on hidden volumes. ~~~ jacquesm More likely: Be aware, your identity is easily assumed and 'bad people' may ruin your life very casually. He's had an object lesson in the consequences, it lost him a ton of money, you really can't fault the guy from trying to recoup some of his losses with his new-found knowledge. ~~~ mprime His "new-found knowledge" is what anyone here would call common sense. ~~~ jacquesm How many people on HN do you think fall in the 'common' bracket? There is probably more IT competency here than you'd find in a very large majority of the net population. For most people this would be news, for you and I, and most of the rest of HN it's old hat. ~~~ mprime >"For most people this would be news" If that's the case, I'm more out of touch with the world than I thought. ------ miguelpais Gotta love de virtual credit cards I use to buy stuff online (since I don't have a credit card, that's the only way I can buy online). ------ ilitirit Pertinent issue, but in future please note the date of publication in the title if the article is more than a year old. I wish people started standardizing the way articles are published to the web so that this sort of metadata could be derived as easily as the page title. ------ mprime It's upsetting to read that he just now started being wary of credit cards and shredding his papers. Someone should not have to go through such an ordeal before caring about the privacy of their personal information. The same goes for his "once bitten, twice shy" comment - why did he have to have his life ruined before being 'cautious' (a.k.a. exercising common sense) about online shopping? Still, this is absolutely terrible. I think the police automatically assuming that anyone buying child porn was stupid enough to use their own credit cards is ignorant and obnoxious. ~~~ pyre > _why did he have to have his life ruined before being 'cautious' (a.k.a. > exercising common sense) about online shopping_ It's not even 'online shopping.' A couple of the huge cases of stolen identities were by employees at credit card processors, so it didn't matter how respectable or secure the stores themselves were. ------ sailormoon _"Being arrested and accused of what is probably one of the worst crimes known to man, losing my job, having my reputation run through the mud, it's a living nightmare."_ I love how downloading a stream of bytes - simply copying a file from A to B - is now "one of the worst crimes known to man". I wonder how long this kind of crap goes on before the average person considers it a good use of their time to learn about encryption. ~~~ pyre Well, you _could_ argue in this case that the crime he was accused of was _purchasing_ child porn which encourages and supports the producers though I have a feeling that the author just mean 'child porn' (in general) when he wrote that. ~~~ sailormoon Funny how that argument only works with kiddie porn. I mean, you could argue that by buying Nikes you're encouraging and supporting child labor. You could argue that by buying a diamond you're encouraging and supporting slavery. You could argue that by buying pictures of Abu Ghraib the media "encourages and supports" the behaviour at Abu Ghraib. But this supposed causal chain of responsibility between purchaser and producer is only enforced, indeed only even mentioned, when it comes to the bogeyman of child porn, which means it's nothing but an excuse. ------ ErrantX It's a difficult scenario and definitely an extreme example. It's hard to see what could have gone differently (apart from the family and employers being douches) ~~~ jacquesm I would say that more than one piece of evidence would have to be brought before arresting someone, and they should have had a _very_ good look at the counter-evidence, which was apparently already available at the time of the arrest. Very sloppy police work this, basically someones life got altered indelibly for something he really had nothing to do with. Just think of it, credit card numbers + matching expiry dates and CVVs are for sale in bulk on underground black markets, every piece of evidence found in a case as serious as this should be held to the highest standards before taking steps that can't be undone. Since his computer wasn't implicated at all before it was seized, if they had tried to tie the case to the guys IP they would have seen he had nothing to do with it immediately that shouldn't have happened at all. This was simply a fishing expedition and a mans life was changed in a very bad way because of it. ~~~ ErrantX What other information? An ip address? Not particularly relevant. In th case of indecent images the police are pretty much required to investigate with evidence of this type. Not doing so is just too dangerous all round for them. I'd say this was just one of the extreme cases your always going to come across. It sucks, lots. Edit: by required I mean its shaky legal ground not to pursue it aggressively. Especially if he suspect is a parent. If hey ignore it and it turns out the guy is guilty they are fucked, badly. The differing ip address is important but only circumstantial because ips are two a penny. ~~~ jacquesm No, seriously, the fact that there was no other corroborating evidence means that there are _NOT_ enough grounds for suspicion. A credit card number is way too easily jacked / faked / cloned. I've had it happen to me in a restaurant, before I finished my trip home (another 700 km drive) there had been a few thousand $ of online charges on the card. A credit card number is not an identity. If it isn't enough to cross a border with then it certainly shouldn't by itself be a reason for an investigation. Especially because in cases like these the chances of the perp using fraudulent information are substantially higher than when looking at the transactions for say amazon.com. Of course pedos are going to try to cover their tracks, using a stolen credit card number is a lesser crime considered to the one they are already committing so the barrier is a pretty low one. ~~~ flipper Yes, if I was the victim in this article I would strongly consider suing the police for wrongful arrest. He would have an excellent case against the police for negligence causing him substantial loss. If the police had investigated his case properly they would have seen that there was no prospect of successful prosecution, but every chance of ruining his life. ~~~ enneff "there was no prospect of successful prosecution, but every chance of ruining his life." Which is probably why they did it. "Even if we can't convict him, we'll at least destroy this filthy pedo's life."
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Large-scale JavaScript Application Architecture - jguimont http://speakerdeck.com/u/addyosmani/p/large-scale-javascript-application-architecture ====== kls Nicely done, I work on large web apps by trade and it is nice to see some of this information trickling down. I pitch Dojo all the time and a lot of people just don't get that at a point jQuery becomes an albatross when people try to do everything with jQuery. I find it easier to use Dojo + jQuery from the beginning, rather than have to pull in Backbone and all the others once an app explodes and gets to be a "large app".
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Middle East Dictators Buy Spy Tech from Company Linked to IBM and Google - notlukesky https://theintercept.com/2019/07/12/semptian-surveillance-mena-openpower/ ====== jsty > The Chinese firm is a member of an American organization called the > OpenPower Foundation, which was founded by Google and IBM executives with > the aim of trying to “drive innovation.” So the link is all three happen to be members of an open consortium? That has to be one of the most tenuous 'links' imaginable, on par with "have employees who attended the same conference once". ~~~ yorwba OpenPower is such a nice ominous name that the writer conveniently avoided explaining that it refers to the instruction set architecture descended from PowerPC (although that means they missed a chance to also "link" them to Apple). I doubt that the particular instruction set architecture used by those chips has a large influence on their use for surveillance applications. In a few years, we'll probably get to read similar articles about RISC-V, complete with "risky" puns. ------ vuln The Falcon tool sounds very similar to the stingray device manufactured by Harris Corporation. The same company that strong armed law enforcement with NDAs on the tools itself and releasing any information about how the law enforcement officers actually gathered the evidence. [https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180120/06352239048/harri...](https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180120/06352239048/harris- stingray-nondisclosure-agreement-forbids-cops-telling-legislators-about- surveillance-tech.shtml) ------ quaquaqua1 Saudi Interior Ministry (secret police) buy a ton of Oracle/SUN as well. The Saudis have deep pockets and Oracle us very happy to aid them in human rights violations ------ badrabbit Would be nice if default apps and settings in purism's phone use end to end encryption for reasons like this. ------ resters This is not unusual behavior for firms that are defense contractors. ------ buboard They wanted tried and tested solutions. ------ sverige >Aegis, Semptian’s flagship system, is designed to be installed inside phone and internet networks, where it is used to secretly collect people’s email records, phone calls, text messages, cellphone locations, and web browsing histories. Other than government involvement, how is this different than the capabilities deployed by Google and the permissions granted various apps in their store?
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Automatic Exploit Generation - dcerezo http://cerezo.name/blog/2011/02/16/automatic-exploit-generation/ ====== pnathan The link is blurbtastic but points off to the meat, which is here: <http://security.ece.cmu.edu/aeg/>. Leading paragraph on the abstract: The automatic exploit generation challenge we address is given a program, automatically find security-critical bugs and generate exploits. Our approach uses a novel formal verification technique called preconditioned symbolic execution to make automatic exploit generation more scalable to real-world programs than without it. We implemented our techniques in a system called AEG, which we use to automatically generate 16 exploits for 14 open-source projects. Two of the generated exploits are against previously unknown vulnerabilities. They have a pretty sweet video of some runs. ~~~ qjz They don't explain in the videos how an ordinary user is able to get a root shell via the exploit. Do all of the examples require a binary to be setuid in order to work? ~~~ slackito Yes, in control flow hijacking exploits like these ones, you make a given process execute external code (typically a shellcode, i.e. a small piece of code which launches a shell). Any code executed this way runs with the UID of the original process, so a setuid root program is needed to get a root shell. ------ stcredzero Another great example of how one can seek opportunities where others don't look -- because people misapply fundamental laws and principles. In years past, many people would have told you such a program is a fruitless endeavor, because of the Halting Problem. (One would have been a CS professor of mine!) The Halting Problem only shows that such programs can't be perfect, not that imperfect but tremendously useful examples can't exist. _A priori_ knowledge and fundamental principles are valuable, but they are often widely misapplied. This is a great "rock to look under," as such principles are often very powerful, yet a great many are mistakenly scared away and don't bother to look closely. <http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html>
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Ask HN: Modestly priced mobile SDKs for 1 to 1 customer support messaging? - alanz1223 I am trying to incorporate a real time messaging customer support system into my mobile app for users to contact me right away and chat with me in real time for any issues. This is a fairly common feature of many websites, I am not sure of the marketing name but it&#x27;s that small pop up that allows you to instantly message a support person and chat with them without necessarily being registered. I would like something similar for my app. I have been googling but I don&#x27;t think I am using the right terms because I am stumbling upon a lot of solutions which allow regular chat like person to person but not any for person to app master for support..<p>Ideally the solution would have a centralized access point like an app or web site for me to view and reply to my messages.. although I am not strict on it, I would also like to be able to receive a notification evertime a new massage arrives so that I don&#x27;t have to constantly check for new messages.. is there such a solution out there, or will I have to implement this from scratch? ====== sharp11 smooch.io is great
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Show HN: Covailnt – Where Freelancers Find Freelancers - WSykora https://covailnt.com/ ====== WSykora I'll take any thoughts here. Currently our landing page really seems to resonate with full time freelancers, but not really with part- time/moonlighters, independent consultants or solopreneurs, even though Covailnt’s built for them as well. I have ideas on what I can do with some of the language, but as you guys know, it’s risky to stay inside your own head sometimes. I’ll take anything you throw at me. Thanks all!
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Ask HN: I want to be good at everything - josephjrobison I want to become a good developer so I can create my own things, I want to become a great marketer so I can promote them, I want to be awesome at design because I love creating and I want to become a great business person because that&#x27;s been the most appealing my whole live.<p>Specialization is good says some people, you should have T-shaped skills says others, specialization is for insects says another.[1]<p>Is the above unrealistic, or does everyone have these goals in some way, but you have to choose what you&#x27;re good at and delegate the rest&#x2F;leave them for hobbies?<p>[1]http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Competent_man ====== ggchappell I would not call that unrealistic. A few comments: (1) Only on HN would anyone dream of referring to your list as "everything". You are actually targeting a very narrow, focused skill set: those required for a small(-ish) software or software-intensive business. Like it or not, you're proposing becoming a specialist (albeit with a somewhat broader specialty than a typical job description would call for). (2) In the real world, "everything" includes many, many other things. To get good at all that stuff on your list, you'll need to leave other skills by the wayside. The comment by taprun mentions chess, running, and cooking. You won't be getting better at any of those. (3) The I-do-everything approach sets a hard limit on the size of a business. An important reason for hiring & delegating is so that a business can grow. ------ taprun In economics, I learned about something called a "trade-off". Basically, if you spend time learning something, you are spending that time not learning something else. I remember meeting someone who was fantastic at chess. He destroyed me. Repeatedly. My mental model of him was essentially "me but good at chess". It didn't occur to me until much later that he didn't know how to program a computer, couldn't run a mile without stopping and didn't know how to cook Chinese food. I think if you stop seeing people as "you but can do X", these feelings will go away. Alternatively, read up on the concept of "comparative advantage" and realize there is a mathematically proven reason not to try to be an expert at everything. ------ notduncansmith This is largely the same goal that I've set for myself. I spend a good amount of time doing each (less marketing lately, more towards coding/design), and find that while I outpace most people in these fields, there's always people who specialize even further and know way more about them than I do. The trick is to spend as much time learning from these people as you can. I talk with my direct superiors at work a lot, because they're both insanely knowledgeable engineers. I also have some buddies that do full-time marketing, copywriting, design, etc, and each of them are constantly teaching me things. Make a point to regularly associate with a wide variety of deeply specialized people, and as a result, while you'll probably never be as effective as any of them in their given fields, you'll certainly be way more effective than most people. From there, pick one or two fields to use as anchors for your T (or W) shape, and then leverage that in your dealings with other fields. Think of yourself as a pupa. Right now you're just incubating, you don't have to do anything fantastic, just learn and grow. Then, when you're ready, you'll break out of your shell and spread your wings :) ------ Raphmedia Of course, you can learn most of those things. However, it is my belief you will soon tire yourself. Getting to the top of everything is hard enough, staying there even harder. I used to be up to date in a lot of domains. 3D modelling, app frameworks, web technologies, back end, front end. Those days, I find it's hard enough to focus on being up to date and relevant with front end web development while balancing an healthy life with friends and family. You can do it, but remember that there is an upkeep to being relevant in a lot of domains. If you can deal with it, sure, go ahead! However, what I would recommend you is a good team. I'm finding I connect easily with people that have complementary skill sets to mine, and it's a great experience. ~~~ tambourmajor Where did you find these people? ------ ASquare I don't think its unrealistic - the bar is just very high for what you want to do. Perhaps it may make sense to talk to people who would be looking for such an integrated skill set and find out which ones matter more than others and to what degree/level. That will give you an automatic prioritization of how to go about getting these skills without becoming overwhelmed.
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Ask HN: Is Linus creating AI Life? - rudin I was reading a HN page http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=898675 where Linus argues that Linux was not "designed" and was struck by the strength of his views. Here are some quotes:<p>"I'm deadly serious: we humans have _never_ been able to replicate something more complicated than what we ourselves are, yet natural selection did it without even thinking.<p>Don't underestimate the power of survival of the fittest."<p>This intrigued me so I looked at his blog http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com where he comments a few times on what he is reading. I will list some of the books he mentions there:<p>Phantoms in the Brain, The Brain that Changes Itself, Why Evolution is True, Genesis: The Scientific Quest for Life's Origins<p>This quote is interesting:<p>"Usually, I tend to read about genetics or similar (that is, when I read anything serious to begin with, which tends to be less than 10% of the time). This one is obviously related, but about the processes that came before it all began. And it also gives more of a look into the issues faced by &#60;BOLD&#62; somebody &#60;/BOLD&#62; trying to do experiments in the area."<p>From the above comments his viewpoint possibly falls into the artificial life camp that tries to imitate traditional biology by recreating biological phenomena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_life).<p>What do you think of this idea? He is well-noted for his programming skills and general ability. Maybe the kernel is just a basis for some sort of massive ai-life simulation? ====== jrockway There is no artificial intelligence, just a lot of humans doing experiments and keeping the best results in the kernel. I think that's plain-old "intelligence". ------ noonespecial _Maybe the kernel is just a basis for some sort of massive ai-life simulation?_ The kernel isn't the emergent life, the community is. The kernel is just the/(a) side effect. ~~~ joubert Right. The kernel is an extended phenotype. ------ chrischen He said he believes in guided evolution, which I agree is the best way to do things. But really it's the only way, because if you're not doing that then at some point you must have lied to yourself when your vision misaligned with results. I think what he's going at is trying to design things logically and rationally, just as evolution does. That is, seeing how the world designs itself and modeling his own methods to it with a little human guidance to speed the what would be random process up. ~~~ joubert Evolution doesn't design anything. It just sometimes seems that way from our (builder-mind) perspective. ~~~ chrischen Well I guess it's how you define _design._ It designs in the sense that it produces something that simply works. Evolution/survival of the fittest is absolute and all human design is simply to imitate it's efficacy (its efficacy is perfect) in less time. ~~~ joubert I think most people would agree that "designing" something means that its construction/development is planned. There's no planning in evolution. ~~~ chrischen Well our argument is about semantics. If "designing" by your definition requires planning, then so be it. The point is that when we design we try to create something that _works_. Evolution is basically the products produced by reality that _work_ , and this is by definition. So in essence we try to speed up evolution by designing. We try to predict what _works_ before it gets there by random luck. Obviously the simplest algorithm is to try random iterations that are completely independent of past ones, but this is essentially _evolution_. So what Linus is in favor of is _guided_ evolution, that is instead of trying random iterations, we try to predict the next working iteration based on past knowledge, and identifying any patterns. Of course everyone probably does this. Unfortunately most people break out of this if they don't understand this, and may be blinded by ego. So when you can't admit you're doing something wrong, you're no longer designing through guided evolution, you're designing by complete random chance at best. In any case evolution is the absolute process that design tries to mimick because its results are by definition what we are trying to achieve. ~~~ joubert Does your definition of "designing" not include the concept of planning? I can see how "building" could forego planning (and result in poor products), but "design" implies planning I would argue. Some comments about evolution: 1) Evolution very often has results that, if it were the product of design, would be considered very poor design 2) Evolution is not random luck. It is anything but random. Mutation is random, but evolution by natural selection is not. 3) Things do not evolve unless: - there's replication - there are mutations that natural selection can "see" - there is pressure for certain kinds of mutations to be favored ~~~ chrischen In response to your bullet points: 1) Evolution always has results that will be considered poor design. Every time an evolved "design" becomes obsolete with respect to its surroundings, then it becomes a poor adaptation, at which point it must evolve again. But because this process is continuous, we consider this whole continuous process as evolution. As time increases, evolution will always force something to adjust to its environment and become _perfect_ with it, therefore evolution as a whole can be considered absolute and perfect. 2) Evolution as a whole is absolute, so obviously it's not luck. The adaptations and changes before the _perfect_ "design" arrives are determined by luck as you say. When I say design I just mean the product of some systematic process. Planning is systematic, but so is evolution. ------ allenwhitt sounds like he's also been reading wolfram's nks. the whole book is about how complexity is created. and wolfram suggests that humans wouldn't be able to _purposefully_ create something more complicated than ourselves (though leaving open the possibility of doing it by semi-accident). ------ nazgulnarsil is _____ creating _amazing technological breakthrough_? I'd prefer not to see question mark headlines. they're really easily abused. ------ VonGuard Perhaps "Hive Mind" is a better term than AI.
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Hand-Shaped iPhone Case, for Humans Who Prefer to Hold Hands With Their Phone - swohns http://betabeat.com/2013/03/hand-shaped-iphone-case-for-humans-who-prefer-to-hold-hands-with-their-phone/ ====== acomjean creepy
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We need ecstasy and cocaine in place of Prozac and Xanax - jseliger https://aeon.co/ideas/we-need-ecstasy-and-cocaine-in-place-of-prozac-and-xanax ====== kolinko There are many different psychiatric issues. MDMA may throw someone out of an acute depression, but for people with genetic predispositions towards depression, it will get back after a few weeks. And you can't microdose, nor take MDMA regularly. As for cocaine - Ritalin is cocaine light really. Both increase dopamine, and reduce anxiety in low enough doses. As for replacing Xanax, it affects GABA if I'm not mistaken, which is a completely different animal altogether. For people who have issues on that front (i.e. experience panic attacks often, due to brain chemistry, not because of traumatic memories), no amount of MDMA therapy, or stimulants, will help. ~~~ goldenkey Cocaine causes much less anxiety than adderall or ritalin. It is a way smoother drug if its pure cocaine , not cut with caffeine and other crap. Cocaine used to be able to be purchased over the counter and everyone carried around snuff boxes. This country was built on cocaine. Unfortunately, with it being illegal, it is risky to obtain and the shitty caffeine youll get with it is inferior to amphetamines. Would be nice to see cocaine as a prescription drug for ADD and narcolepsy. But thats a pipe dream... Stick with pure drugs, ie. from prescriptions. Caffeine and that other speedy and anxiety inducing crap street coke is cut with is not worth dealing with ~~~ shoesr Provigil seems to be way better since it doesn't get you high in the traditional sense. I don't think cocaine lasts long enough to be therapeutic. And certainly not healthy to snort it. I also don't believe anyone (99% of people) should be taking any performance enhancing drug every day. Ritalin, Adderall and Vyvanse are all essentially meth without the initial rush. And yes, no one should be doing cocaine since a huge percentage is cut with synthetic balt salts and even sometimes fentayl (not sure why). ~~~ goldenkey Not a big fan of provigil but a lot of people seem to have success with it. Cocaine lasts a while if you consume it sublingually or orally. ------ shoesr I think we also need better mental models of how to deal with life and stress. And how to be energized from being healthy and sleeping properly. ~~~ Arizhel >I think we also need better mental models of how to deal with life and stress. No, we need totally different lifestyles that are more compatible with our biology. The way our society functions is incompatible with our biology, and we're trying to cover it up with drugs and other medical treatments. ------ I_am_neo We need government with real honest people..... ------ klarrimore Ah yes, another shrooms and mdma cure all article. ~~~ grillvogel do you have any experience with either? ~~~ klarrimore both but prefer the "harder stuff" but I'm not trying to win any converts either.
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Two envelopes problem - tchajed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_envelope_problem ====== jamii You can even explicitly define the distribution as P($2^i) = 1/(2^i) and the 'paradox' remains. The problem is that you are reasoning about the expected gain of swapping but that expectation is a sum over a series which is not absolutely convergent ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_convergence](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_convergence)) so it's value depends on the order in which you sum over the different cases. In fact, if you repeatedly simulate the problem (make sure you use bignums) you will find that the mean gain from swapping is not well behaved at all and refuses to converge. The law of large numbers only applies if the expectation is well-defined. The lesson here is: when in doubt, explicitly write out the probability space over which you are working. Problems like this and the Monty Hall problem are trivially solvable on paper. There is a reason that mathematicians get all hot and bothered about formalism - it gives you a solid base from which to build _correct_ intuitions. EDIT Let's write this down properly. i | gain from swapping if I have the smallest | gain from swapping if I have the largest 1 $2 -$2 2 $4 -$4 3 $8 -$8 etc There are two arguments. The first is that the situation is symmetric so you can't possibly gain. That is: E(Gain) = (1/4 * $2 + 1/4 * -$2) + (1/8 * $4 + 1/8 * -$4) ... = $0 + $0 + $0 + $0 ... = $0 The second argument is that swapping from small to large is a bigger gain than the loss of swapping from large to small. That is: E(Gain) = (1/4 * $2) + (1/4 * -$2 + 1/8 * $4) + (1/8 * -$4 + 1/16 * $8) ... = $0.5 + $0 + $0 + $0 ... = $0.5 Adding up an infinite series is tricky :) ~~~ bluecalm Well, yeah :) The problem is still in assuming something about the distribution without having any good reason to. In original "paradox" reasoning it was impossible uniform distribution. What you show is that even assuming possible distribution could still lead nowhere. It still doesn't mean there is any reason to assume it's P($2^i) = 1/(2^i). I may just as well assume it's exactly 100$-200$ and that switching from 100$ gives me guaranteed payoff. It would be as baseless as assuming uniform distribution or the one given by you. I think the main lesson from this puzzle is that you can't assume stuff without good reason to. ~~~ jamii I'm not _assuming_ that that is the distribution. I'm saying that the problem as presented is underspecified, but even if you give this specific distribution in the problem you can still cause confusion. Assuming stuff is bad but the original 'paradox' still doesn't go away if you nail everything down. It's a useful problem for education people about the subtleties of infinite sums. ~~~ bluecalm Well, there are distributions which don't have well defined expected value and I agree that it's valuable lesson. I would argue though that this is not the best example to show it. The point of two envelope problem comes much earlier and specifically giving distribution defined by you would make it completely different problem and assuming it in original form would already be a mistake. I think there are better examples to show how infinite sums and relying on expected value based on those might leads to problems. Like this one for example: [http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/paradox- stpetersburg/](http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/paradox-stpetersburg/) ~~~ jamii The expected value in the St Petersburg game is actually well-defined - it converges to positive infinity. That is a subtly different result than not converging at all. Both problems are useful. ------ millstone This is one of my favorite problems. Here is one variation can help clarify thinking about it: "There's two envelopes. One contains twice as much money as the other. No envelope contains more than $N." This changes the problem dramatically. If your envelope contains more than $N/2, of course you should not switch: the other envelope necessarily contains less. If it contains $N/2 or less, perhaps you should switch: the other envelope may or may not contain more. Say your envelope contains $x, and you don't know what $N is. There's two possibilities: 1\. $x <= $N/2\. If you switch, your expectation value is $3x/2, by the original argument. 2\. $x > $N/2\. If you switch, you will get $x/2, since no envelope contains more than $N. If we assume the distribution is uniform on the range [0, N], then these possibilities are equally likely. Therefore the total expectation value is the average of the EVs of the two possibilities (3x/2 and x/2), which is $x. So we recovered the naive expectation of "it doesn't matter" from this variation. Now we can take the limit as $N goes to infinity, and while the EV of $x approaches infinity, the fact that switching does not matter does not change. As others have said, the underlying problem is the assumption that a uniform probability on an infinite set makes sense, which it does not. However, we can instead take the limit for finite sets, in which case we recover the intuitive result that switching does not matter. ~~~ jamii Exchanging limits and expectations is not always valid (eg [http://www.stanford.edu/class/msande322/docs/app_B.pdf‎](http://www.stanford.edu/class/msande322/docs/app_B.pdf‎)). In this case the expected gain is not convergent in the limit. See [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6387344](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6387344) This is one of my favourite problems too :) ------ EllaMentry That is a very long article based on flawed argument. Given no other information, assuming someone gave you 2 envelopes and told you one has $40 vs $20, common sense dictates choose 1 randomly and walk away - with no other information it is illogical to reason any other way. The chance you choose the lower value is 1/2. Now, if you are allowed to look inside the envelope (which gets introduced further down) then it becomes a different game. Get $20...well by swapping you may get $10 or $40...you should probably swap. Get $2000...well by swapping you may get $1000 or $4000...you should probably swap. I think this works all the way up...someone with a bit more background on game theory may be able to formalise it, but the realisation that swapping forever leads to $0 nullifies this "paradox" ~~~ bluecalm Yes, it's not a paradox it's just seductive flawed reasoning. Yes, at any point EV of picking an envelope at random is 3/4n (n being higher amount of money out of the two). It is all there is to it. The "paradox" is introduced by silent assumption that distribution of amounts put in envelopes is uniform which is impossible (because you can't pick numbers from infite set uniformly even if there was infinite amount of money in "adversary" disposal). The assumption is then used for conditional probability calculations: "if we see 10$ there is 50% chance the other envelope contains 20$" \- BEEP, ERROR, THINK AGAIN. Perhaps good exercise in clear thinking but not really a paradox. Good analogy is this: "If we pick random building and climb to the roof of it there is 50% chance first building we see is higher than the one we just climbed". This is obviously true, now following "paradoxical" reasoning we get: "If we climb a building randomly and see it's the Empire State Building there is still 50% chance first building we see will be higher". This is exact analogy to reasoning about 2 envelopes problem which is supposed to lead to a paradox. ~~~ jamii You can explicitly state the distribution and still run into the same problem: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6387344](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6387344) . The underlying problem is basically that probability theory in non-finite spaces has some gotchas - one of which is that the expectation of a random variable does not always exist. ~~~ bluecalm Interesting point and nice read. Still the problem is in assumption about underlying distribution of amounts in envelopes (in original case impossible uniform distribution). The reasoning is based on this assumption and leads to nonsense. What you are saying (I think) is that assuming some other distribution (possible one, instead of impossible one) could still lead to nonsense or doesn't lead anywhere at all. ~~~ jamii Not so much that it leads to nonsense as that naively applying expectations doesn't always work. This is a contrived example, but it's not uncommon in eg random walk theory to hit upon cases like this where the expectation does not exist at all. People commonly think of mathematics as being purely about formal proof but the reality is an interplay between proof and intuition. Usually when a mathematician encounters a problem in a familiar area they immediately know the answer by intuition which then guides the production of a correct proof. When you first enter a new area of mathematics your intuitions are all completely wrong and you have no idea where to start with a proof. Good teachers will introduce edge cases like this problem to refine your intuition until it is useful enough to be a guide. [http://terrytao.wordpress.com/career- advice/there%E2%80%99s-...](http://terrytao.wordpress.com/career- advice/there%E2%80%99s-more-to-mathematics-than-rigour-and-proofs/) ------ sillysaurus2 I'd like to offer my own humble solution. Maybe it's flawed. Maybe you can embarass me. :) Here it is: the goal is to choose a strategy which statistically maximizes our return. I.e. strategy A is superior to strategy B if it yields higher returns after, say, 1,000,000 iterations. So there are two envelopes, X and 2X. You select one, then you're offered a chance to change your selection. What do you do? Let's write out all the possibilities: You select X, then you choose to stay, and wind up with X. You select 2X, then you choose to stay, and wind up with 2X. You select X, then you choose to swap, and wind up with 2X. You select 2X, then you choose to swap, and wind up with X. Those are the only four possibilities. You're forced to choose one of these possibilities randomly, because you have no information to guide your choice. Since two of them yield 2X and two yield X, and since your choice is necessarily random, then therefore all strategies will converge on the same expected value. In short, it doesn't matter what you do. You always have a 50% chance of X or 2X, regardless of your sequence of choices. At first glance this is similar to the Monty hall problem, but the critical difference is that information is revealed during the Monty hall problem. No extra info is revealed here. I assert that the envelopes could contain X and 1000X and it still doesn't matter what you do. Ok, go, embarass me! ~~~ Afforess No. If I understand correctly, your last two outcomes are wrong. There are 6 possible outcomes, not four. This is because when you choose the 2X correctly, you may receive 2(2X) or X. The 6 outcomes are: You select X, then you choose to stay, and wind up with X. You select 2X, then you choose to stay, and wind up with 2X. You select X, then choose to swap and wind up with 1/2X You select X, them choose to swap and wind up with 2x You select 2X, then choose to swap and wind up with X You select 2X, then choose to swap and wind up with 4X ~~~ sillysaurus2 Actually, you always wind up with X or 2X, never 0.5X and never 4X. Remember, the envelopes contain either X or 2X, and you always end up with either one or the other. ~~~ iamshs I myself understood the problem with Afforess's reply. You are explicitly pinning the value in the envelopes, but remember the other envelope has either half or double of the value than the one in your hand, and this is the crux of this paradox. Hopefully, I am thinking in correct terms. ~~~ delinka But he has assigned the identifiers "X" and "2X" to the envelopes. He could have called them "A" and "B" and his logic still holds. The problem I see with the wiki article explanation is: while using actual dollar amounts as examples, it gives the impression that you get to open the envelope that you picked first to see the amount, but that you don't know if it's the smaller value or larger value. So I choose "A" and I don't know if it contains $X or $2X. I don't even get to open it to know what amount is in the envelope. Whatever it contains, if I choose to switch, I get envelope "B" \- I always have a 50% chance of choosing the larger amount or switching to the envelope with the larger amount because no information is revealed after the first choice. for A->$X, B->$2X: Choose A, stay with A, receive $X Choose A, switch to B, receive $2X Choose B, switch to A, receive $X Choose A, stay with B, receive $2X for A->$2X, B->$X: Choose A, stay with A, receive $2X Choose A, switch to B, receive $X Choose B, switch to A, receive $2X Choose A, stay with B, receive $X 50% chance of getting either amount, regardless. ------ aegiso The way I see it the flaw is in the first sentence of the "example": > Assume the amount in my selected envelope is $20. You can't just pull that assumption out of your ass. You can only assume what the problem states, which is that the values in the envelopes are X and 2X and you had a 50% chance of choosing either. If you run the math without adding assumptions, it works out that swapping makes no difference, statistically. Though it is a very clever trick :). ~~~ DoctorZeus Taking out the specific dollar amount doesn't change the math at all. If X designates the amount in the envelope I've selected, than 50% chance the other envelope contains .5 * X and a 50% chance it contains 2 * X, so the expected value of the other envelope is .5 * .5 * X + .5 * 2 * X = 1.25 * X which is greater than X. ~~~ dnautics but you are implicitly turning the scenario into one with three values, 1/2X, X, and 2X, so something went wrong with what you're doing. There was only ever a universe of two values. ~~~ DoctorZeus Sure, these are variables, so they correspond to different possibilities. X can be anything, and given X, the amount in the other envelope is one of two different possible values - 1/2X OR 2X. So there are far more than three _possible_ values, but only two _actual_ values. ~~~ dnautics Exactly, that's why your model is broken. ------ fargolime All the probability math therein, for a problem whose solution is highly intuitive (if you swap, you'd be just as inclined to swap envelopes indefinitely, is all you need to realize), reminds me of this quote: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." \- Albert Einstein Shameless plug for a blog I like that has little math, yet uses much intuition to solve five of the biggest outstanding problems of physics: [http://finbot.wordpress.com](http://finbot.wordpress.com) ~~~ justinsb Theoretical resolution of "intuitively obvious" paradoxes such as these are important. If we cannot find a theoretical resolution, it can indicate a flaw in our theories, and that will likely provide a more accurate set of theories. The problems around the speed of light gave rise to Einstein's theories of relativity. Another of those flaws ("the set of all sets that are not members of themselves") gave rise to modern set theory and formal logic. Still a nice quote from Einstein though :-) ------ mgraczyk I don't see the paradox... If you have 2x and swap you lose x. If you have x and swap, you gain x. 0.5 _(-x) + 0.5_ (x) = 0, So you should be indifferent to swapping. A I missing something? Not to say I don't make mistakes, but I have a BS in mathematics so maybe this is only obvious for people with a background in math? EDIT: No need for dollar values. ~~~ oneeyedpigeon I don't have a BS in maths, but the important bit, as I read it, is that you don't know the values involved. I.e. if you have 20, there is _either_ 10 in the other envelope, or 40. You have no way of knowing which is the case, so it's in your interest to swap since the benefits outweigh the risks. This is totally counterintuitive, though, so I'm fully willing to accept I'm missing something! And I don't buy the 'indefinite swapping' argument, since the second swap must surely reverse any advantage gained. ~~~ andrewflnr Once you have the second envelope in hand, since you don't actually know what's in it, the exact same expected-value argument applies to switching back: there might be $10 or $40 in the other (first) envelope, "so it's in your interest to swap since the benefits outweigh the risk". While the second swap would reverse any advantage _possibly_ gained, it would also reverse any _possible_ harm sustained You dont know. The situation is perfectly symmetric; picking and switching is the same as just picking the second one at first. So just pick one. ~~~ colomon Env A has $20 (we have it and know). Env B has $10 or $40 (equal chance). We swap. Now we hold Env B, which has $10 or $40 in it. We know the other envelope (Env A) is $20. Why would we switch again? ~~~ andrewflnr The original statement of the problem says you're offered the choice before you open the envelope. I guess I was sloppy about the $20 assumption too. As for the case you do know, I still feel wrong about the conclusion that you should switch, but I can't formalize it. ------ thatthatis Here's my contribution: \----------------- Approach 1: Absent new information, we cannot improve our outcomes. In the montey hall problem there is either obscure new information, or a obscure change in the rules between firs choice and second choice. Montey hall collapses to an initial choice of the prize behind door A or the prizes behind both door B and C. When the true, collapsed, choice is revealed the common sense reasoning is correct. In this problem there is no new usable information. In the two envelopes problem the new information appears relevant but is actually not on it's own any more useful to reasoning about expected value than knowing that there is a red or green piece of paper in either envelope. \----------------- Approach 2: Keeping the quantities symbolic. There are two envelops with quantities x and y inside. We are told that 2x = y. After choosing it is revealed that our envelope has quantity z. It is not revealed if z=x or z=y. Let's consider the universe of possibilities. Possibility one (50% chance): z = y. Value of switching: -x Possibility two (50% chance): z = x. Value of switching: +x Therefore the value or switching is: .5 * -x + .5* +x = +/-0 The red herring here is that knowing value z feels like it is information about values x and y, but it isn't. The slight of hand is in trying to say that the other envelope is worth either .5z or 2z. This is false because there is an unknown but fixed universal constant variable x. We don't know from the available information if we are in universe z=x or universe z=y. In short: The two envelopes paradox mistakes an unknown constant for an unknown variable. Knowing that z = 20 doesn't change the universal constants x and y. ~~~ bluecalm Approach 1: There is in fact new information when you look into the envelope it's also very valuable because it allows you make judgement taking into account your knowledge about the world and specific situation (who puts money in the envelopes, what are general preferences of people in such situations etc.). Approach 2: You made the same mistake. Seeing the money is actually valuable and very real information. The problem is that original reasoning makes wrong use of it. It doesn't mean there is no information or that we can/should ignore it. ~~~ thatthatis If the new information is relevant, how is this simulation code wrong? [https://gist.github.com/tedtieken/6567112](https://gist.github.com/tedtieken/6567112) ~~~ bluecalm The code is wrong because there is an assumption that the distribution is 50% for 10$ and 50% for 20$. There no basis for this (how do you know you won't got 40$ if you see 20$ ?). See my other posts, I think this point is very well worth thinking about. ------ jader201 The paradox depends on the possibility of always being able to double the amount. This isn't true. Swapping once will either double or half the amount; swapping back will just do the opposite. ~~~ dools Even better: if I put $10 into one envelope, and $20 in another envelope and get you to choose one, what is the probability that the other envelope contains $40? Zero. ------ scythe This is a fantastic and subtle paradox, and not at all taken to quick resolution. A resolution follows, first to spot a problem (if there is one) gets a cookie. Consider the amount in the lower to be f(x), the higher to be x, given f(z) such that f(z) < z for all z. In this way we generalize to _all_ distributions, as the problem clearly applies to _all_ distributions. You open the first envelope, which contains A. The second envelope contains B. The challenge is to calculate the value of B. First we must calculate x. The chance that A = f(x) is 1/2, the chance that A = x is 1/2\. The average value of A is (x + f(x))/2, so the average value of x is [f+I]^{-1}(2A), where I is the identity function and [g]^{-1} denotes an inverse function. Now we calculate B. The trick lies in this: _both calculations must lie in the same reference frame_. So B = x with probability 1/2, and B = f(x) with probability 1/2, giving us B = (x + f(x))/2. The rest is plug-and-chug: B = ([f+I]^{-1}(2A) + f([f+I]^{-1}(2A))/2 --> B = [f+I]([f+I]^{-1}(2A))/2 --> B = 2A/2 thus B = A. Therefore over all probability distributions that can be defined we have the average value of B equal to A in any case. A purely mathematical resolution is satisfying, but I am not in any case an epistemologist, so it may not satisfy people who take a different interpretation of math than me. It works, and I like it. ~~~ jamii The problem here is that you are adding together two values for a specific case of x and then adding together the result for all values of x (is that clear? probably not). It's analogous to another age old problem: what is the value of 1 + (-1) + 1 + (-1) + 1 + (-1) ... You could argue that (1 + -1) + (1 + -1) ... = 0 + 0 ... = 0. You could also argue that 1 + (-1 + 1) + (-1 + 1) = 1 + 0 ... = 1. There are actually way to group the numbers in that series to get any integer answer you want :D Since we haven't actually defined a distribution over x the problem is not well-defined anyway. But lets pick, say, P(x=2^i) = 1/(2^i) for all i>1. Then the expected value of A is E(A) = (1/2 * $2) + (1/4 * $4) + (1/8 * $8) ... = +infinity. Similary E(B) = +infinity. Now for E(B-A) E(B-A) = (1/2 * $1) + (1/2 * -$1) + (1/4 * $2) + (1/4 * -$2) ... Like the example above, we can add this up in different ways: E(B-A) = ((1/2 * $1) + (1/2 * -$1)) + ((1/4 * $2) + (1/4 * -$2)) ... = $0 + $0 ... = $0 Or E(B-A) = (1/2 * $1) + ((1/2 * -$1) + (1/4 * $2)) + ((1/4 * -$2) ... = $0.5 + $0 + $0 ... = $0.5 When adding up infinite numbers of things you have to be very careful. I go into more detail in this thread - [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6387344](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6387344) Cookie please :D ~~~ scythe In my original version of the post I had intended to argue for a geometric mean, which was sort of a joke, as it only works where f(x) is a constant k*x. So the statement "A false resolution follows, first to spot the problem..." appears in the post. Upon seeing this an enterprising and intelligent person may have clicked "reply" While writing this I realized that inverting the definition of A gave a different resolution based loosely on operator theory, and posted that instead. A couple minutes later I realized the mistake and changed the beginning to refer to the first to spot "a" problem. The argument you've presented is good, but you have attacked the well- foundedness of the problem itself rather than the logic I've applied. I'm not sure if you get the cookie. ~~~ jamii Goddamn, what does it take to get a cookie around here? :D ------ dools I read through the common resolution but I just can't get why you need all this. The problem seems to be at the start: you select one of two amounts, then you say the other amount is either double or half what you _chose_. That means you have 3 amounts in the equation: 0.5x, x and 2x. But in reality there are only 2 amounts: x and 2x. So you have to state the problem like: you choose an envelope. The other envelope either contains x or 2x. It can't contain 0.5x because that amount never existed in the first place. ~~~ Osmium Unless you picked 2x to start with, in which case the other envelope does contain half of what you chose... i.e. there are two envelopes, x and 2x, and you choose one. There is a 50% chance that the envelope you didn't choose is half the value of the one you picked (you pick 2x, and the other is x), or there's a 50% chance the envelope you didn't choose is twice the value of the one you picked (you pick x, and the other is 2x). I think it's misleading to introduce this "third" quantity of 0.5x... but perhaps I'm missing something subtle, in which case I'd be happy to be corrected! ~~~ dools _I think it 's misleading to introduce this "third" quantity of 0.5x_ Yes, it _is_ misleading, that's my point :) Put it another way: you have two quantities in two envelopes, A and B. If you choose B, what is the probability that the other envelope contains a 3rd quantity, C? The probably of that is zero, because C was not present in the initial two envelopes. Still another way of putting it: I will place $10 in an envelope, and $20 in another envelope, then ask you to choose one. What are the chances that the other envelope contains $40? The chance of that is zero, because the only two amounts present at the start of the trick were $10 and $20. ------ tmoertel Arbitrarily label the two envelopes A and B. Assume that no envelope is empty. Let «X» denote the amount of money in envelope X. We are told that either «A» = 2«B» or «B» = 2«A». Because these propositions are exhaustive and mutually exclusive, we know that P(«A» = 2«B») + P(«B» = 2«A») = 1. (1) Since we have no knowledge that would make either proposition more plausible than the other, we also have (by symmetry) that P(«A» = 2«B») = P(«B» = 2«A»). (2) From (1) and (2) we can solve for the individual probabilities of the propositions: P(«A» = 2«B») = P(«B» = 2«A») = 1/2. (3) Therefore, from the initial conditions, we have no reason to prefer either envelope. Now we are given the information that we have picked one of the envelopes at random (let's say it's A). We are further given the information that A contains $20, that is «A» = $20. How does this new knowledge affect the probabilities? It has no effect because we can't say anything more about either proposition without also knowing «B» as well, and we don't know it. That is, P(«A» = 2«B» | «A» = $20) = P(«A» = 2«B») and P(«B» = 2«A» | «A» = $20) = P(«B» = 2«A»). Therefore, our probability assignments from (3) remain unchanged, and we have no reason to prefer one envelope to the other, let alone swap A for B. ------ egreif1 This is a really cool problem. I don't claim to understand it, but here's one way of thinking about it. The paradox assumes that when we see the value of money in the envelope we open, we get no information about whether that's the smaller or larger amount of money. Now, in practice, is that possible? Let X,Y be i.i.d. draws from some distribution with CDF F, and say we see Y=y when we open our envelope. If the distribution satisfies the constraints of the problem, then we have to have that, for all possible values of y: P(X > Y | Y = y) = 1/2 = P(X < Y | Y = y) In practice, this is impossible. The reason why this is impossible is because P(X>Y | Y = y) = (1-F(y)). Since F(y) is a CDF, if we take the limit as y goes to infinity we have that (1-F(y)) = 1. So (1-F(y)) can't equal 1/2 regardless of y. That is, the probability that the other envelope contains the larger or smaller value is not independent of the value we observe in the envelope we open. And, more importantly, it can't be, such a distribution doesn't exist. You have to consider the sampling distribution to get a meaningful calculation. ------ level09 This sounds like a special case of the secretary problem [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_problem](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_problem), where instead of envelopes you swap secretaries and additionally you have a time constraint. I find it very interesting how these statistical problems can be projected on our own life (swapping jobs, finding a better partner etc ..) ------ pierrebai The paradox is interesting to discover and discuss errors in reasoning, but we should agree from the start that any proof that one should always switch (or that any behaviour could increase the expected gain) is flawed. This can be easily proven by: 1\. Taking at face value that choosing an envelope is random. 2\. Adding a second player that is given the other envelope. In that scenario, any reasoning that leads one player to always switch would apply to the other player too. Both players would swap their envelopes. Clearly, the expected value for both cannot go up. Thus any reasoning that mandates switching /has/ to be wrong. (If you have issue with adding another player, instead assume a parallel universe where the player chose the other envelope.) The error in reasoning is usually to assume that the envelope contains X and then reasoning about X/2 and 2X. In reality, the envelopes always contain X and 2X. When you actually use the parallel universe version, clearly one has X and the otehr has 2X. Nobody has X/2 (nor 4X, nor any other expected value your theory may come up with). ------ bluecalm Many explanations here contain the same mistake: Some reasoning -->> seeing the money doesn't change anything and/or doesn't count as information. If you arrive at this point you've made a mistake. Seeing the money is valuable information. The trick is not in ignoring it but making good use of it like this: -use your best knowledge about person who puts money in the envelope, general human tendencies and how the world is to approximate distribution of money in the envelopes -pick according to your personal utility of money assuming the distribution What the the wrong reasoning in original puzzle suggests is to assume uniform distribution which is impossible but more importantly baseless. As other poster shows there are baseless distributions you could assume which leads you nowhere as well. Just don't let it detract from the main point: there is new information but making use of it is not that easy. ------ thatthatis If it is possible to switch and gain on the average we could write a 10,000 or so iteration monte-carlo simulation of this switching algorithm to demonstrate the gains. The envelope has either x or 2x. One envelope has amount z, but the agent doesn't know if z = x or z = 2x. If it is true that not switching leads to an EV of 3x/2 but switching leads to a higher EV: then a single switch each round should come back with an average value of greater than 3x/2. In the Montey Hall problem, we can code up such an agent to demonstrate that the naive intuition is wrong. However, in this case, regardless of how many times we switch, we still end up with an average value of 2x/3. Therefore there is an error in the math that says that switching has a higher EV than staying. ~~~ jamii Go ahead and run a few million simulations of the problem and graph the running mean over time. You might be surprised :) Be sure to use exact arithmetic (eg [http://docs.python.org/2/library/fractions.html](http://docs.python.org/2/library/fractions.html)) ~~~ thatthatis [https://gist.github.com/tedtieken/6567112](https://gist.github.com/tedtieken/6567112) Run the simulator and you'll see, the ev is 3x/2, regardless of switching behavior. Feel free to modify if you think I've innacurrately conceptualizer the problem. Also, please excuse some non pythonic names, I'm writing the code on an iPhone. ~~~ jamii Sorry, I should have been more specific :S You have assumed a fixed amount in each envelope. The article leaves the amount unspecified but implicitly assumes that there is no maximum amount that could be in the envelope. The problem only becomes interesting for certain distributions. Try this code: [https://gist.github.com/jamii/6567205](https://gist.github.com/jamii/6567205) If you run it with the uniform distribution the running mean will eventually converge to 0. If you comment that out and uncomment the exponential distribution it is much more interesting :) With the exponential distribution the expected value of switching does not even exist. EDIT Doh, the original gist was totally wrong. That'll teach me to argue on the internet at 3am. The updated gist is correct. ~~~ thatthatis Fixed amount vs variable amount is irrelevant, variable amount just requires higher n. Either way, the gain from switching approaches zero as n approaches infinity. ~~~ jamii It does make a difference but I messed up the code :S If you try the updated gist you will find that the second distribution appears to converge for a while but always jumps away again. I've run it now for 20540000 rounds and its further away than it started. ------ cookingrobot Here's how I see it - the important unstated variable is how big a budget does the host of the game have? If you know that you're playing with a billionaire who loves this party trick, and is probably willing to give away a million dollars on this, then the $20 you found in you envelope is probably the smaller value. If your envelope contains $800,000 it's probably the bigger one. The host has chosen a number randomly between 1-N, and they're not neccessarily going to tell you what N is. But in the long run you'll find that values closest to N/2 are more common than values further from N/2. ~~~ russellsprouts However, it says in the problem that you are offered the switch before you open the envelope. So, you can't know if your original choice was $20 or $80,000. ------ heydanreeves Since you don't know what is in either envelope surely both theoretically contain both x and 2x (al a Schrödinger's cat). Only upon opening an envelope will we know the amount; which one you take or how many times you swap make no difference. Also swapping, in my understanding, doesn't increase your probability. In the first choice you 1 in 2 chance of gettng the higher amount. In the second choice (the ability to swap, which is fundamentally the same as choosing between the two envelopes) you have a 1 in 2 chance of getting the higher amount. Correct me if I'm wrong. ------ russellsprouts Correct me if I'm wrong, but here's my analysis. There are two envelopes. One contains a value x, and the other has 2x. You pick an envelope at random. Let's call the envelope you choose z. The variable z is a random variable that has an equal chance of being x or 2x, so the expected value of z is 1.5x. If you switch, there are two possibilities. In one case, you picked x, so switching gains you .5x over the expected value of 1.5x. In the other case, you picked 2x, so switching loses you .5x from the expected value of 1.5x. So, the expected gain from switching should be zero. ------ asciimo Just take both envelopes and run. ~~~ eugeneross I agree. Plus, both have money. Win win. ------ CalvinCarmack [https://gist.github.com/CalvinCarmack/6567168](https://gist.github.com/CalvinCarmack/6567168) $1500308 500308/1000000 0.500308 never switched $1500301 500301/1000000 0.500301 always switched ------ whalemaker Interesting. This reminds me of a bizarre version of the Monty Hall problem: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem) ------ jheriko the flaw here is assuming that the value being higher on average in the envelope is a sufficient criteria to make swapping the best choice. this is not how probability works, if i have a million empty envelopes and one with a billion dollars in it, the average value of each envelope being £1000 doesn't mean anything in the face of the 1 in a million chance of actually picking the right one. ~~~ harryh Actually, that's exactly how expected value works. ~~~ jamii I think the point he is getting at is that expected value (or even expected utility) is not actually a good measure of human preferences. Additionally, in this problem there are certain distributions over the amounts in the envelope for which the expected value is not defined, making it an interesting problem to study. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow) is a good book exploring mathematical models for decision making. ------ Mazz Just read it... Here is what I came up with. I start work at 9:00 am, before work I always go to my favorite coffee bar called "Muazam's Coffee" it's 10 minutes walk from my workplace. So I arrive there 8:30 am to have a morning mocha with breakfast while reading the newspaper. One day a man approached me right before the coffee bars entrance and asked me if he could experiment a problem on me, he promised I would get enough cash for a coffee. Well, why not I thought. He presented me Two Envelopes and said "One contains twice as much as the other. You may pick one envelope and keep the money it contains. You pick at random, but before you open the envelope, you are offered the chance to take the other envelope instead." Without giving it a single thought, I picked the one on left for me, and began to unfold it. He looked at me and said "don't you want to swap?!", I had just unfolded the envelope and pulled out $20 bucks, "too late for that I guess" I said. I could tell by the look of his face that he was disappointed, he unfolded the other envelope and pulled out $10 bucks. He left me without saying a word. I went to the coffee bar and spent the money I've just gotten. I took my coffee and breakfast and sat down on one of the outside tables. I saw the Envelop man again, this time he had found another guy. He had two new envelopes and asked the guy the same question. But this guy took out a pen and paper and started doing some math. It was already 8:47, I had to go to work. Next day, same routine. I go to the Muazam's Coffee bar, and I see Envelope and mathematician guy(let's call him Joe) sitting on one of the tables outside the bar. The guy is still trying to solve the problem. I was kinda impressed how much Joe had put effort into this, he already had four A4 full of notes that seemed like formulas. This went for weeks, months, years. Everyday, before work I would see them outside. The Envelope man having two envelopes by his side and Joe trying to solve the problem. 28 years had passed... I was going to Muazam's Coffee bar as usual when I noticed there was ambulance outside. I went to see who they came for, for my surprise it was Joe. I asked the envelope man, what had happened, he told me Joe had a heart attack. Joe was admitted in a hospital, he was in bad condition. The envelope man visited him and said "Joe, I am proud of you. We have spent so much time together and you still don't have the perfect formula to solve this problem. Maybe this problem can't be solved with math..". Joe looked him in the eye and said "No, I won't give up. I will get this right and get the highest amount of cash". The envelope man said "You can have them both" and he unfolded both of the envelopes. One containing $1 and the other one $2. This is where Joe had another heart attack.
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When your backup isn't a backup: a postmortem - timr http://omniref.com/blog/blog/2014/07/03/postmortem-for-our-recent-outage/ ====== edoceo Do you have a monitor on your PG boxen? I've got them set to warn at 50% full, due to table update issues mentioned. For huge/destructive updates we run first pass on a clone and generate a pg_dump of DB or at least specific tables before the operation on Live
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Two programmers walk into a bar.. - raganwald http://ozmm.org/posts/two_programmers_walk_into_a_bar.html ====== Tichy No :-(
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LinkedIn Salary - deepaksurti https://www.linkedin.com/salary/ ====== vonseel Software Engineer in San Francisco Bay Area median base salary $120,000/yr Salesperson in Houston, Texas median base salary $29,000/yr Hmm, neither of these make me feel especially good about income potential available currently. The software in SF number also seems much closer to what I would expect to see in Austin or Houston, and I would expect a good experienced engineer can pull closer to $150k+ in those cities.
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Do We Worship Complexity? - ilidian https://www.innoq.com/en/blog/do-we-worship-complexity/ ====== sctb Previously: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18230827](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18230827).
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Apple reportedly acknowledges hijacked text message problem - softinio http://9to5mac.com/2014/05/14/apple-reportedly-acknowledges-hijacked-text-message-problem/#more-323198 ====== softinio I am completely affected by this. Apple needs to compensate users and fix immediately. Ruined a recent vacation this by not getting peoples texts.
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Can a Website Have 0% Downtime? - steffisekar https://medium.com/insping/how-much-downtime-is-acceptable-downtime-e95946fe9ba1 ====== Piskvorrr TL;DR: Impossible; OTOH three nines aren't enough, buy our monitoring.
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Reinventing The iPad - alexch http://blog.cohuman.com/re-inventing-ipad-and-iphone-scrolling/ ====== alexch If you’ve ever used the iPad or iPhone, you’ve probably noticed the absence of scrollbars. They don’t exist! Mobile Safari lets you "scroll" the entire page by sliding your finger around, but all other scrollbars are simply discarded. Essentially, we needed to reinvent the native iPad/iPhone scrolling, flicking, and bounceback behavior in JavaScript. Here's how we did it.
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Why the higher-end iPad model will be called iPad Pro - tomica http://www.displayblog.com/2011/07/06/why-the-higher-end-ipad-model-will-be-called-ipad-pro/ ====== tomica (even John Gruber linked to this, so it must be important ;) This new high-end model will be called iPad Pro, not iPad 2 Plus. Why? Well, first Apple isn’t Samsung. The com­pany doesn’t add pre­fixes and suf­fixes except for ‘i’ and ‘Pro’. is everyone who covers AAPL required to check his brain at the door? nano? classic? shuffle? touch? air? mini? x? ...? ~~~ adolph Don't forget S and Classic. ~~~ mrpollo or the G models
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Washington Versus Silicon Valley - jsyedidia http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204313604574328621808977640.html ====== tici_88 While this regulation will clearly be disastrous for America, can you imagine the windfall of campaign contributions and lobbying frenzy that will ensue as a result of this thing passing? Timothy Geithner or whoever is crafting this proposal is probably licking his/her lips at the thought of a $200bln industry on their knees willing to write a check to anyone who has the power to decide who are the winners and who are the losers in this regulation madness. Administration: 1, Rest of America: 0 Could it be that the political system in Washington is corrupt beyond belief? ------ pj OMG, this is the most absurd thing I've heard in a long time. I think it's really a symptom of a much deeper problem with American government and that is that the "system" is getting so big that no one really knows how to fix it. I see this kind of thing happen with software too. Your IT department buys software or adopts a new platform and builds all these great interconnected applications with messaging busses and information silos and then one day everyone who knows anything about the system is gone and what to do now? Well, you start building systems on the platforms that are easier to understand and try to work around problems and in the meantime, the people who don't know what to do are trying to keep their jobs by _doing something_ at all which is just making the whole package even worse! At some point, a company has to make a very tough decision to "rip and replace." It's costly. It takes time. And while you are ripping and replacing you have to try to do the best with what you have working now. But the consequences of _not_ ripping and replacing are just going to continue crippling you and eventually, you are going to be leap frogged by an agile startup who doesn't have the legacy deficit you've run up by not doing things right in the first place! ~~~ ricaurte Agreed this is a completely absurd move by the Treasury Department. What brought the financial industry to its knees was too much leverage. Venture capital firms don't use leverage, so they can't be a systemic risk. ~~~ joubert But the institutions that invest in them do. ~~~ byrneseyeview And many people who have physical dollars also have credit card debt. Should we force dollars to follow the same rules? Your comparison is absurd. You're making the case for regulating the same amount of leverage twice -- once when it's borrowed, and once when it's invested. That doesn't do anything but make life inconvenient for the folks who _don't_ lever up. ~~~ joubert The issue is that the investors are overwhelmingly public and corporate pension funds, endowments, fund-of-funds, etc. ~~~ ricaurte Then it is the public and corporate pension funds, endowments, fund-of-funds, etc., that should face scrutiny, not the venture capital firms. Figuring out their expected return from their venture capital investments shouldn't be very difficult because of how long the industry has been around, not to mention that venture capital investments on average are only 1-3% of their portfolios (due to venture capital's lack of liquidity), so the amount of money at risk is insignificant compared to the size of the portfolio. If losing 1-3% will collapse an investors fund, then they were over-leveraged to begin with, just like Lehman Brothers. If the Treasury Department is worried about how much people are putting into venture capital, then they should make a ceiling of 1-3% of the fund's portfolio being able to be invested in venture capital. No regulations are needed on venture capital firms. ------ matt1 From the article: _Treasury’s position is that if it doesn’t drag VC firms into the bureaucratic swamp, then high-rolling hedge funds playing with borrowed money will present themselves as venture funds to avoid regulation._ How does this work? Isn't there a clear distinction between hedge funds and venture funds? ~~~ tjic I note that the relatively little regulated hedge funds did NOT collapse and need a taxpayer bailout in the current recession. Folks like to trot out hedge funds as bad guys, but in fact they do a ton of good, and prove that a lightly regulated environment works as well (or much better) than operating with the government's hands all over them. ~~~ pyre I was under the impression that lack of regulation is what caused many of these mega banks to collapse. Mostly because the regulations preventing banks from merging with investment firms and such were lifted in the 80's or 90's. I'm not necessarily saying that regulation is a good thing, though. Just that there is a balance to be struck. ~~~ anamax > I was under the impression that lack of regulation is what caused many of > these mega banks to collapse. You may be under that impression, but it's wrong. (It's being pushed by folks who like regulation.) They were all regulated to the hilt. AIG especially. ~~~ pyre Well, obviously mismanagement, greed, and stupidity caused them to collapse, but regulations forbade even the formation of such multi-national investment house+bank combinations in the past. I assume that the hope was that it would prevent banks from taking unnecessary risks with people's money. Which was obviously reversed with a good old, "private industry always comes up with the most efficient model, never fails, never commits fraud, and is always perfect" crap that like to get pushed around in government. ~~~ anamax > Which was obviously reversed with a good old, "private industry always comes > up with the most efficient model, never fails, never commits fraud, and is > always perfect" crap that like to get pushed around in government. The only folks who ever say that do so as above, attributing that belief to others in an attempt to cover up their lack of an actual argument. Govt is subject to exactly the same failings, with one important difference - it gets to tax and coerce folks and there's even less connection to results. Even the most corrupt company would have problems keeping Barney Frank around, yet he's still a major player in govt, driving housing policy.... ------ grellas Politicians, lawyers, and regulators impeding entrepreneurs and investors in the name of protecting against non-existent systematic risks to our economy. This type of regulation originated many years ago with the broad idea that unsophisticated persons (the "little guy") needed various forms of disclosure to enable them to make informed decisions about their investments. How that rationale can even begin to apply to VCs and their LPs (who are typically large institutional investors) is an absurdity only Washington could possibly begin to fathom. The article nails it when viewing this development as a further extension of Sarbanes-Oxley and other recent regulatory changes: much more of this and it will be time to put the IPO on the endangered species list. This will definitely hurt startups in the long run. ~~~ hristov Non-existent systemic risks???? Did you suddenly forget about the last year. Have you been asleep for the last 18 months? Systemic risks are very much existent. And if banks and financial institutions are going to cry for federal bailouts every time a "systemic risk" rears its ugly head, the only thing any responsible government official can do is put in regulation to make sure that the systemic risks are controlled. The financial industry loves to complain about regulation but it is the financial industry that brought this on their own heads by (1) fuckign up, and (2) asking the taxpayer to pay for their fuckup. As far as the rationale, it is different from what you said. The rationale is that certain parts of the economy are so intertwined that if one financial company craters it can cause a chain reaction disaster for multiple other completely healthy financial institutions. I am not sure I buy this logic, but again the financial industry used this very same logic to say it was not their fault when the economy imploded, so it is only fair that the same thinking should be applied to them now that the feds are starting to regulate them. Now you could make somewhat of an argument that VCs are not systemic risks, and that may be true if they were mostly owned by wealthy individuals, but that's not the case. VCs are mostly owned by financial institutions that may borrow against their property, so if the value of a VC craters they may cause a sell off spiral in a larger financial institution. Again, I am not I believe the above sentence, but if you buy into the theory of systemic risks, it is pretty obvious that VCs are one. ~~~ bhewes Systemic risk is a risk that can cause the financial industry to collapse. VCs are not a systemic risk they are only $28 billion in size, are positively exposed to extreme market moves and are not leveraged. With a VC investment the most you lose is your initial investment. With any form of leverage you can possible lose more then your actual investment and are negatively exposed to extreme moves in the market. If a VC's principles are leveraged up that still does not change the systemic risk exposure of the VC fund. The institutional investor is the one carrying the systemic risk. ------ catzaa I always wonder if the cost of complying with new regulations is contemplated. If I think of how long our family take just to do stupid and inane administrative tasks (VAT, Union payments, tax, unemployment insurance, etc…). All this administration is really hampering small businesses. Why aren’t these regulations simplified? Why aren’t employees paid on a cost to company” basis and are responsible for their own administration (i.e. own union payments, own unemployment insurance, own health insurance, etc…). Maybe it is just because I hate admin – but I doubt that admin should take up 40% of a small business owner’s time. ------ kirubakaran Suits go out and owe money all over town and the government pees on our rug? ------ bokchoi Oh, the other Washington. ~~~ rottencupcakes Misleading title. I assumed this article was about if Seattle or the Bay was better. Please make it more clear, since this is a great article that everyone should read. ------ AndrewWarner "As part of their regulatory redesign, Team Obama and Congress still don’t have a plan for reforming the giant taxpayer-backed institutions like Fannie that caused the credit crisis. Yet they’re moving to rewrite the rules for investing in tiny technology companies that had nothing to do with the meltdown. Under the proposed rules, venture firms will be declared systemic risks until they can prove themselves innocent." ------ joubert That's quite rich. Don't VC's receive most of their money from institutional investors, like, uhm, public pension funds, corporate pension funds, insurance companies, endowments, foundations, fund-of-funds, etc.?
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AIGrant: Get $5,000 for your open source AI project - orph https://nat.org/aigrant-get-5-000-for-your-open-source-ai-project-1118dd7db083 ====== natfriedman Hi HN! I'm happy to answer any questions. I'm also open to feedback if there are suggestions. I was inspired to try this experiment by Nadia Eghbal's grant program: [https://medium.com/@nayafia/5-000-no-strings- attached-9e7b95...](https://medium.com/@nayafia/5-000-no-strings- attached-9e7b95d33e50) ~~~ kunaltyagi Could you put like-minded people in touch who submit similar projects? ~~~ natfriedman This is a great idea. Maybe I'll create a slack for everyone who applies. ------ orsenthil What I find surprisingly appealing is, the open source heroes that I grew up with, nat friedman in this case, are pushing towards AI / deep-learning. It feels as if "hackers", who previously flocking towards open-source software are gravitating towards AI, stats, machine learning etc. I am open to scurry along and move to this new place where the cheese is. ~~~ jacquesm [http://course.fast.ai/](http://course.fast.ai/) Super good stuff. edit: now, without https. ~~~ thebouv Is this legit? Throws a security error in Chrome. ~~~ jacquesm Hey you're right. But yes, it's legit, without the https it also works. I'll drop them a line to warn of this, thank you. ------ pvsukale3 What if applicant personally doesn't have any previous experience with AI- related technologies. But has a strong affinity towards learning them. Also If he/she has a really good idea.Will it be okay? or the ones with previous experience will be preferred? ~~~ natfriedman Lack of experience in AI is not necessarily disqualifying. I'd like to see some evidence that the person applying is capable of doing the thing they are setting out to do, though. That could be experience shipping open source software, a relevant math background, a track record of being great at explaining algorithms, or something else I'm not thinking of right now. ~~~ pvsukale3 thanks! ------ jostmey I just submitted my application. Would it be possible to add a notification that the application has been successfully submitted? Perhaps that is not possible with the package you are using. ~~~ natfriedman Good idea, tonight maybe I'll write a script to email people a couple times a day. ~~~ kunaltyagi Could you make the responses editable post submission? ~~~ natfriedman Done! ------ whitten Has anybody looked at ThoughtTreasure? Since Nat is willing to accept updates to Open Source Software, this amazing code base would be a good start of AI related stuff. It really could use a better user interface to its databases, for example. Or a tie to WikiData. There are several good things that could be added to it. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThoughtTreasure](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThoughtTreasure) ------ wonderous @Nat: Any thoughts on a project using AI to do real-time noise reduction, signal identification, and signal extraction in a controlled environment? To get an idea of what a more complex version would look like, which is closed source, see: [http://cyphercorp.com](http://cyphercorp.com) ------ fchollet Great initiative! Always good to see more support for open-source and for AI tooling. ------ mysterydip Are you looking for more academic/business/cloud cases, or would advancements in game AI be an option as well? ~~~ natfriedman Open to all these things; game AI sounds great. ------ toufka Kind of a loaded question, but what do you mean by 'AI' other than developing an algorithm that makes a computer look 'smart'? ------ markovbling Very cool! ------ finid Mind doing the same for hardware projects using an open source OS? A pal I know could use half of that just to set up the legal structure of his outfit.
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Show HN: Mashup of Amazon.com's wish list and Balanced Payments - peterbe https://wishlistgranted.com ====== hootener Knee jerk reaction: Great work. I had a similar idea floating around in my mind and it's cool to see something like it come to fruition. Incoherent Rambling: How about expanding to more than one item wishlists that span multiple site APIs and market it as a simple, efficient, online wedding registry replacement? You can rank your items in terms of preference, people can contribute money, then the app just buys and ships the items from the top down until the list is complete. As a wedding gift purchaser I wouldn't have to make a trip to some random store and go through the hassle of getting the registry, nor would I have to navigate to a site I may never use again (I'm looking at you Williams Sonoma) and setup an account to purchase one item. As a bride or groom it would be nice to just supply someone with one short URL when they asked "where are you registered?" without having to go through all the hassle of setting up a ridiculous "we're getting married" wedding profile on Yet Another We're Getting Married Social Network. Like I said, incoherent rambling. Could result in an interesting tool, though. ~~~ joeframbach MVP. If they had went for bells and whistles, it would never be released. ~~~ hootener yeah, sorry if I gave the impression that "OMG this site NEEDS THESE FEATURES RIGHT NOW!!!" That wasn't my intent. It's legitimately a great idea and a seemingly well executed MVP (I haven't dug deeply into it yet). Hence my suggestions being prefaced with "Incoherent Rambling" It's hard not to see a good initial execution on an interesting idea and think aloud "I wonder where this could go next..." In either case, OP, keep up the good work. ------ normloman Wishlists are so impersonal. Donating funds to someone's wishlist takes just a few minutes, and you don't even have to speak with the recipient. If the point of gift giving is to strengthen social bonds and show regard for one another, how do wishlists achieve this? That said, if wishlists are your choice, this is an efficient way to handle it. ~~~ mildtrepidation _If the point of gift giving is to [...]_ And if it isn't? I'm sure many people don't ascribe to this particular theory of gifts as a universal truth. Also, gift giving often happens in an important, larger context, which is always different; gift giving at Christmas, for example, is hugely loaded depending on your background, your attitude toward the holiday, what significance you do or don't attach to it, this same set of attributes for every person you may want to give a gift to, and many other things. Wish lists can be considered impersonal, I can see that. Many people grew up with them, though, and in that case they may not alter a person's perspective of the gift at all. For Christmas in particular, when a whole lot of busy people are expected to give gifts to a whole lot of other busy people, finding the time and insight to get meaningful gifts for everyone involved can add to an already often stressful time. ------ peterbe Here's a little blog post about how it started [http://www.peterbe.com/plog/wishlistgranted](http://www.peterbe.com/plog/wishlistgranted) ------ chavesn The $1 transaction fee seems crazy wasteful to me on purchases under $50 or so. I would consider just buying the whole item for a friend (through Amazon, letting Amazon eat the transaction fee) before I'd give anywhere from 5-10% extra to a third party. If the average item was $20 and the average contribution was $5, banks would also be making 10% or more per wishlist item when they would normally make 3% or less. That just rubs my cost-effectiveness sensitivities the wrong way. ~~~ peterbe If you want to buy the whole item, bypass Wish List Granted and go straight to Amazon Wish List and buy it there. It gets cheaper. But if spending $20 on every friend you have, my site is a better alternative. Also, the reason I add the $1 transaction fee is to cover the cost of the shipping. ------ jack-r-abbit I like this. Just yesterday I added an item to my wish list that is quite expensive. I know that a single person is not going to want to buy it for me. But if several of them contributed, it would be more realistic. Edit: It also makes a new way to get tips/donations. People might be more likely to donate if their money is going to something they can see. You might even get people to donate a little more if they see you are very close to getting the item. ~~~ peterbe It sounds like you like the idea and you are using amazon wish list. So let me ask you, did you use the site? I suspect the site is one of those "Great idea! ...but I wouldn't actually use it" which is sad but maybe the honest truth. ~~~ jack-r-abbit Well... I mostly use my Amazon wish list to keep track of things that I will likely buy myself in the future. I don't really expect people to buy them for me. So I did not sign up for the site. However, it is a great idea and is something I am likely to make use of at some point. I just don't have a need at this moment. ~~~ peterbe Sorry if my question sounded personally attacking. I'm just a web geek trying to improve what I build. So, it sounds like it was the concept that held you back. Not something that I was doing wrong on the site per se. ~~~ jack-r-abbit Don't worry. I didn't feel attacked at all. I understand the need to get feedback from users (or non-user in my case) to improve things. And it was not even the concept that held me back... just lack of need at this time. Generally speaking, I'm not one to sign up for something until I actually plan to use it. ------ hkbarton Aha, nice hack, simple and interesting. Actually I launch a wishlist-similar project for this shopping season few days agao: [https://www.shoplify.us](https://www.shoplify.us) , that help people collect their products not only from amazon but from any website. it's still in early stage, and there are many features will be release later. Maybe we can do some cooperation if you think it's cool :) ~~~ peterbe The advantage of using only Amazon.com is that I don't need to store the person's address. Also, I don't really need to store anything about the item. I might morph it into any Amazon.com product that isn't necessarily on your wish list. That way, you can pick an item for a friend and tell his/her friends the URL to collect the money. ------ sync Cute! And timely. Looks like you still have some work to do: [https://www.monosnap.com/image/JkLBAEYvPAOE96ab7YqrFoXgc](https://www.monosnap.com/image/JkLBAEYvPAOE96ab7YqrFoXgc) & Here's the console output: [https://www.monosnap.com/image/JWwoDPyQrFyrokGxIt0b4i8Qe](https://www.monosnap.com/image/JWwoDPyQrFyrokGxIt0b4i8Qe) ~~~ peterbe How the heck did you managed to get to that? What amount did you enter? ~~~ zende The card was declined because it was an invalid card number. "No such issuer" means that the first six digits, Bank Identification Number, are incorrect and card was declined as a result. We (Balanced) should be doing a better job to make this error more understandable or mask it by returning some invalid card number error. ~~~ peterbe Thanks for the reply. I still need to make a better job of displaying any general errors from Balanced that aren't for a specific input field. ------ jfoucher Is there any chance this could be made to work with international amazon sites? I tried to enter my amazon.fr wishlist URL, but it said that no such wishlist was found on amazon.com Great concept though! ------ Karhan Neat idea! If a little impersonal. Perhaps adding a personal message field that gets printed on a card and sent along with the package? Theres gotta be a service for that. ~~~ peterbe It does that! If you make a contribution, you type in your name and a personal message. That gets included later when the order is shipped from amazon.com. ~~~ pmclanahan Nice! ------ niels_olson This should be marketed to charities, then the public. Unless peace on earth and good will toward all mankind is available on Amazon. ------ jack-r-abbit You mentioned $$$ in another comment. May I ask how you will monetize this? (obviously you don't have to answer... just curious) ~~~ BHSPitMonkey Well, if the service becomes popular, the OP will find himself sitting on a nice rolling account of cash (the funds that haven't yet been spent or returned to donors), which might be capable of generating interest. I can't imagine that income being appreciable (or entirely legally kosher), but who knows? ~~~ peterbe It's easy to make money on anything that is popular. The "profit" made on top of adding a small fee. on top of Balanced's fee, is so minuscule and quickly eaten by shipping costs. Right now, I'm more interested in building something that makes a profit just for the hell of it. All my other side-projects are making me absolutely nothing. ...nothing but resume padding :) ------ cbhl Hmm. I'm tempted to create a Canadian clone of this (since you only work with Amazon.com at the moment). ~~~ peterbe Let's race! :) I'm going to add UK, CA later. Maybe FR and DE too. BUT only IF this is a success which I don't know it will be. Getting onto HN just means traffic but not necessarily $$$ which would the motivator for adding more features. ------ thesimon Fraud will probably be quite a problem, but nice concept. ~~~ jack-r-abbit I guess if you had a number of stolen credit cards you could set up a wishlist item, then use them to contribute. I imagine the final Amazon purchase would be on record as coming from WishListGranted and the item is gifted to you so that might be one layer of separation between you getting an item and the use of stolen cards. Perhaps you could elaborate on what types of fraud you think would happen? ~~~ jc4p A common use case for stolen cards is to do small transactions and see if they are successful or not to let you know if the card you found/bought actually works or does not. This site would be a great way to do that.
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Homemade CPUs on the way for local supercomputers - Husafan http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90881/7310152.html ====== baltcode Wouldn't it be better if both China and the US stop all the protectionist and control measures and let the best ideas, products, and employees compete among say Intel, Longsoon, AMD, Motorola etc.? ~~~ wmf If you let the best chips win, that means US chips win — probably forever, since Chinese companies can't afford to invest the required R&D to catch up unless they get government subsidies. ~~~ baltcode If you let all the barriers down, multinational teams win. These teams will have engineers from the US, EU, China, Japan, India, and other parts of the world, with many design and fab facilities in different regions and investors from many regions.
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WikiLeaks releases Vault 7 “Grasshopper” - ramblenode https://wikileaks.org/vault7/#Grasshopper ====== M_Grey Modular malware... that's nasty and efficient. This is also interesting, and must make forensic attempts to determine origin of a hack even harder: >One of the persistence mechanisms used by the CIA here is 'Stolen Goods' \- whose "components were taken from malware known as Carberp, a suspected Russian organized crime rootkit." confirming the recycling of malware found on the Internet by the CIA. "The source of Carberp was published online, and has allowed AED/RDB to easily steal components as needed from the malware.". While the CIA claims that "[most] of Carberp was not used in Stolen Goods" they do acknowledge that "[the] persistence method, and parts of the installer, were taken and modified to fit our needs", providing a further example of reuse of portions of publicly available malware by the CIA, as observed in their analysis of leaked material from the italian company "HackingTeam".
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Adaptive Rock Paper Scissors - dangoldin http://iterationprojects.com/rps/ ====== tectonic This is one of my projects. I made it a while ago. I'm glad you guys are enjoying it! It implements an approximation of this strategy: <http://www.ofb.net/~egnor/iocaine.html> ------ trickjarrett I went 20-5-10. Interesting algorithms, I could see it's "strategy." 3 of my losses came from me picking scissors three times in a row. And then I correctly deduced it would guess that I would switch to rock and thus play paper, so I clicked scissors a fourth time. Will be curious to see how the statistics play out. Would also be better to randomize the order of Rock - Paper - Scissors links as it's given to the user. ~~~ tectonic Yes, randomizing the order of the links for the user each time would let the user press the first link every time and have an unbeatable strategy. :) ------ kqr2 They should try their AI on one of the rock-paper-scissor (rps) variants. For example, this guy has developed rps-25 versus the traditional rps-3: <http://www.umop.com/rps25.htm> ------ tl "Against me, you've won 28 games, lost 14 games, and tied 18 games." Is there an api that we can use to create our own rps decider to play against your site or other people? ~~~ kqr2 You should be able to make requests of the form: http://iterationprojects.com/rps/?mode=p&id=<integer player id>&rps=<r,p, or s>&result=<t,w,l>&r=<random # between 0 and 100000> where: r,p,s represent your rock, paper or scissors choice. t,w,l represents whether tie, win, or loss against previous prediction The response will be like: Prediction: p I have played a total of 25751 games. I've won 40.895% of those -- 33% would be chance . (7537 ties, 10531 wins, 7683 losses.)<font color=white> strat1 (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) using prior</font ><p> where the computers next move is charAt(12), in this case 'p':paper ------ herbyderby This one has been around for a long time: <http://chappie.stanford.edu/cgi- bin/roshambot> ------ lazyant Nice. I chose as random as possible (for a human, we're bad at that) and I tied: "Against me, you've won 23 games, lost 23 games, and tied 21 games". ------ lionhearted My results: Against me, you've won 11 games, lost 0 games, and tied 9 games. Maybe it´d make sense to add a slight random element to throw off intelligent human players? 10% chance of picking one completely randomly every time? It might lead to people who could break the system picking up patterns wrong.
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Interplanetary Internet - filterfish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet ====== filterfish Not to be confused with IPFS!
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Reverse engineering the ARM1 processor's microinstructions - ingve http://www.righto.com/2016/02/reverse-engineering-arm1-processors.html ====== cmrdporcupine Ok so that's interesting that it was microcoded, but was the ARM2 (the one that actually got used in real production)? ~~~ kens Yes, ARM2 adds multiplication and coprocessor instructions but is otherwise basically the same design done at 2 microns instead of three.
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Surveillance Self-Defense - rosser https://ssd.eff.org/ ====== deathhand Was disappointed when they didn't mention how to hide from facial recognition software. Here is how: [http://cvdazzle.com/](http://cvdazzle.com/) ~~~ boyaka Wow, I never thought about this, but perhaps a beard would also function quite well for this? Maybe that is why beards are so frowned upon in society...My conspiracy senses are tingling xD ~~~ chiph Beards are possible for only half of society. Beards that look good are possible for even fewer people. ;) ~~~ x1798DE You don't have to grow a beard, you can just put a fake beard on. I can't imagine it looking more ridiculous than the linked modifications, even for a woman. ------ dang [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8499549](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8499549) ------ ArtDev This is a great idea. ~~~ sarciszewski This is an old idea -- the page has been around for YEARS. But I agree. :)
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Getting started with OpenBSD device driver development [pdf] - adamnemecek https://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2017-device-drivers.pdf ====== brynet This is from an excellent talk Stefan Sperling (stsp@) gave at EuroBSDcon this week! Livestream segment: [https://youtu.be/8wuW8lfsVGc?t=21489](https://youtu.be/8wuW8lfsVGc?t=21489) ~~~ feelin_googley I enjoyed the first talk the most. Tells story of two day conference on Verilog for programming FPGA where some intro Altera board was used. Required a _4GB_ download of some proprietary closed source toolchain that unompresses to _13GB_ , containing multiple versions of Perl, Tcl and modules. Said they spent entire first day of conference just trying to get this installed. Then realized they accidentally installed non-free version and had to repeat the whole process. Solution: Use smaller, more robust, easily installed open source NetBSD toolchain instead of proprietary one.
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Faroo: Peer-To-Peer Web Search - flippyhead http://www.faroo.com/hp/p2p/p2p.html ====== lrvick At first I thought, awesome, finally an open distributed search engine. ...Oh wait, you want me to install your closed source code on my computers, to give you all my personal data and CPU cycles for you to own and use as you like. (Which you "promise" won't be exploited or abused). Make no mistake, this is a voluntary botnet for a single party to use to build a company on. This voluntary botnet will provide search engine services from a central point so they can keep the majority of profits without the overhead of paying for resources like every other for-profit company. This is not Peer-2-Peer it is Peer-2-Company. Also they are late to the party on this approach, Microsoft already tried this with Bing: [https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing- uses...](https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses-google- search.html) This model is just begging for people to troll them by releasing tools to poison their database with nonsense data. They should build a -real- open p2p distributed system (the blockchain is not perfect but a good example). Short of that if they want to be a for-profit centralized search engine, fine. They should go buy some servers and databases they can directly control. and try to be a closed source competitor to duckduckgo. ~~~ joshu > They should build a -real- open p2p distributed system what's stopping you? ~~~ CJKinni I'm not the individual you're responding to, but probably a mix of time, money, and interest. You don't need to make a better version of something for your criticism to be valid. ------ ZenoArrow So would it be fair to say that effectively Faroo works by: 1\. Scanning your browser cache for the sites you visit. 2\. Setting a ranking to the sites in your browser cache, based on how frequently you visit the site. 3\. Merging this site + ranking information with other Faroo users in a search index. 4\. Distributing the search index in a distributed way, perhaps all nodes only having a fraction of the total index to prevent storage issues. If that's a simplified version of what is happening then I could see it working. If I've misunderstood something let me know. ~~~ dogma1138 That's pretty accurate and quite scary, mostly because it will start pulling off bio's from PornHub now instead of Wikipedia and that can never end well. ------ magila It appears they are relying on a combination of not documenting their ranking algorithm and updating it periodically to prevent spammers from flooding the system with bogus "attention" signals. I'll leave determining the likelihood of this approach being successful as an exercise for the reader. ~~~ ljk So... security through obscurity? ------ mdip I found this a little problematic: _FAROO indexes only pages which are located in the Internet, but no Intranet pages or HTTPS protected pages_ If it simply can't see HTTPS pages, it'll leave a large chunk of the internet invisible to the search engine. I understand the reason for this, but it's a technical limitation they'll have to find a way past to make it useful as more and more sites encrypt by default. ~~~ dogma1138 It indexes pages you visit, it does some MITM/Browser snooping but at least it's not intrusive enough to do SSL stripping. ------ wslh Sorry but where can I try FAROO without downloading an app or connecting to an API? ~~~ charlieegan3 [http://www.faroo.com/](http://www.faroo.com/) ~~~ daveloyall Query: _sed split file by pattern_ Result: _No results were found._ ~~~ 8_hours_ago _python string_ also has 0 results. It doesn't seem like this is quite ready yet. The website also added a new page to my browser history for every character that I typed in the search box, which is kind of a pain (also, it's slightly amusing that it added so much to my browser history when the search engine presumably gives weight to websites that occur frequently in its users' browser history). ------ jzelinskie Something similar was posted to HN a while ago[0]. However, it was made specifically for indexing scientific papers without keeping all the content. Totally open source and runs in the browser. I feel like a more generic implementation could be done well, but hasn't been so far. [0]: [http://juretriglav.si/an-open-distributed-search-engine- for-...](http://juretriglav.si/an-open-distributed-search-engine-for-science/) ------ btown Sadly, by its very nature, it misses a lot of the "long tail" of rarely- visited sites that Google et. al. can crawl. ------ bhouston We tried using various for an all we developed and its results were fairly poor, so we had to switch to bing. ------ curiousjorge Gene Kan ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Kan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Kan)) also had the same idea, until he shot himself while working on a distrubted peer to peer real time search engine in front of his computer I think. I heard about him when I watched a documentary about Napster. No documentary about Gene Kan exists. He is virtually unknown but his work was an important contribution.
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Chicago-based non-profit news org shuts down, to return as for-profit - brandnewlow http://www.chitowndailynews.org/blogs/Ravings_from_the_editor/Some_news_about_the_Daily_News,32359 ====== brandnewlow Chicago news nerds are talking about this over on the Citizen: [http://www.windycitizen.com/chicago/news/2009/09/11/chi- town...](http://www.windycitizen.com/chicago/news/2009/09/11/chi-town-daily- news-folds) The ChiTown Daily News received over $700,000 in grant funds over the last three years and has employed up to 5 full-time employees at a time. It was founded by an ex-Chicago Tribune investigative reporter as a citizen journalism operation in 2006. They've received a ton of press from the likes of the New Yorker, PBS and others. You can see the most recent clips here: <http://www.chitowndailynews.org/about/press> My friends on staff are telling me they just ran out of money. Posters over on my site are wondering how the same team's supposed to make a for-profit version of this simply by raising more money, this time from people who expect results. I'm wondering the same.
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Buzzup Docs is Digg for Documents - etcera http://mashable.com/2009/01/23/buzzup-docs/ ====== sam_in_nyc Just what the web needs... more fragmented and derivative ideas. ------ jwesley Mashable will truly cover anything.
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Did IBM Kill CentOS 8? - mpobrien https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2019-September/017673.html ====== mikece Would it really be in IBM's interest to kill (or soft-kill) CentOS? I thought the reason RedHat had embraced it is that it kept more folks/companies in the mind-space of RedHat: if they weren't going to make money from CentOS users then at least those users wouldn't move to the outer edge of Canonical's sales funnel by going with Ububtu Server. Maybe IBM sees this differently. ~~~ 4acb "Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity." \- Snatch
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JS1k JavaScript Code Competition – Demos 2015 - vmorgulis http://js1k.com/2015-hypetrain/demos ====== q3k My system (Chrome/X11/GNU/Linux) completely hung up when viewing [http://js1k.com/2015-hypetrain/demo/2179](http://js1k.com/2015-hypetrain/demo/2179) ... Anyone else experience this? ~~~ rogerbinns I did a bit more digging. Using Ubuntu 15.10 64 bit on a system with Intel HD4000 graphics. I was getting about one frame every 3 seconds and the system felt very unresponsive (eg takes a minute or two to kill the tab). But the mouse pointer moved. Connecting in via ssh showed that the system was just fine and close to idle. It was the GPU where the issues are. I ran intel_gpu_top and what you see is that render busy is at 100% as is blitter busy (most of the time). Essentially the gpu is saturated. I do wonder if this is similar to bufferbloat, but with so much work pending for the gpu that other requests take a long time to run. I ended up having to kill -9 chrome, and ended up with a hung system (ie even magic sysrq didn't work). ~~~ rogerbinns Since another commentor mentioned it running fine on their mobile device, I decided to run it on my tablet which coincidentally also uses an Intel Atom cpu + gpu. It chugged along at about one frame every two seconds for about 10 seconds, before an app not responding dialog appears. I reported it, and the tab was restarted. On the restart I get a bottom of Chrome message "Rats! WebGL hit a snag". It has a helpfully (not) grayed out "Learn More", Reload or Ignore. No matter what I did I couldn't get it working again, with the browser showing "WebGL not supported". On my Nexus 5 it ran just fine - smoothly even although there is a lot of aliasing. ------ nodivbyzero This is cool: [http://js1k.com/2015-hypetrain/details/2291](http://js1k.com/2015-hypetrain/details/2291) ------ kozak 1k seems like too little. If we take classic 64k .exe demos as a "gold standard", then we need to define some limit that would allow to replicate that amount of stuff in JS. Should it be 16k, 32k, 64k? Is textual JS code more compact or is it less compact than legacy binary .exe files? That's not a straightforward question to answer. ------ z3t4 There are some awesome demos, but I think code size is a stupid limit, yet I can not come up with any better restriction. ~~~ NeutronBoy What do you mean stupid? It's the entire point of the competition. Do you mean that it's got no 'real-world' relevance? ~~~ z3t4 What would you say if your software colleges tried to write their code in as few characters as possible? <grin> It always result in "obfuscated" code. Maybe there should be a code competition where you get points for simplicity as wells as how impressive the result is!? In sports there are no secrets, just different philosophies.
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Pragmatic Debian packaging - kiyanwang http://vincent.bernat.im/en/blog/2016-pragmatic-debian-packaging.html ====== dozzie > [...] building Debian packages with the official tools can become > straightforward if you bend some rules: > 1\. No source package will be generated. Packages will be built directly > from a checkout of a VCS repository. > 2\. Additional dependencies can be downloaded during build. [...] > 3\. The produced packages may bundle dependencies. This is likely to raise > some concerns about security and long-term maintenance, but this is a common > trade-off in many ecosystems, notably Java, Javascript and Go. Point 3. is fine for site-built packages that don't go to mainstream. Point 1. in the long run can result in some trouble, and one really shouldn't do that for third-party code (unless it's mirrored in own repository). Point 2.: please don't do that. It's a stupid, really stupid idea. This way you defeat much of the robustness provided by packaging. You can't reproduce the build and you can't reliably rebuild the package under network outage or leftpad 2.0 farce. It's much better to have a script (makefile?) that downloads all the sources off-line, and package that to a single source package (debian/source/format "3.0 (native)"). But apart from these, it's a really good overview of modern Debian package building, especially that it doesn't show how to _generate_ a package, but build it from scratch.
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Preannouncing Seph - Immutable Ioke/Clojure-like JVM language - cgbystrom http://olabini.com/blog/2010/07/preannouncing-seph/ ====== lhorie As much as I respect Ola Bini's projects, I have to ask: what reason would one have to use Seph instead of Clojure? They seem to have the same design goals (homoiconicity, immutability) ~~~ spooneybarger you dont like lisp syntax? you want to do prototype based OO? they aren't identical. they may share some features but not all features. its sort of like asking back in the 90s- why would i use python instead of perl. ~~~ joubert I'm curious to see the syntax (he says it will be homoiconic) and how that translates into the mechanism for manipulating the AST. This is the raison d'être for lisp's syntax. ~~~ lhorie He mentioned it's similar to Ioke, which looks like this if(42 < 43, "wow, math comparison works" println, "we have some serious trouble" println) ~~~ joubert Is there an example of AST manipulation? ~~~ lhorie <http://ioke.org/wiki/index.php/Guide#Macros> ------ klync Congratulations.... Since it's still "pre-announce" phase, I'll point out the collision with "Ceph" (<http://ceph.newdream.net/>), which may or may not be of concern to you and the team.
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NSA Engaged In Financial Manipulation, Changing Money In Bank Accounts - gasull http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131218/14533925607/intelligence-task-force-hints-nsa-manipulating-financial-systems-changing-amounts-bank-accounts.shtml ====== mschuster91 And _boom_ , there goes another pillar of trust crushed by the NSA. What a great service to their country. But hey, maybe the US population finally decides that their whole system is totally brain-dead as more and more shit hits the fan. Not all hope is lost.
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An example of an engaging "404 Not Found" page - ColinWright http://null.kiwi.net/foo/404.php?m=1 ====== ColinWright I posted this earlier: <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4122804> It got flagged, and someone suggested that the title alone might make some people flag it without reading. I nearly flagged it based on the title alone ... It screams "someone tried to post a link to HN but pasted the url in wrong". -- mooism So this is a re-submit in case you flagged it without reading and in fact would be interested, or in case you missed it because it got flagged, when perhaps it shouldn't. ------ lazugod This 404 page isn't used - any mistyped kiwi.net URLs just redirect to the homepage.
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