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Yeah. | 6cd
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So let's talk about another construct. That's important. | 3gc
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Okay. | 3gc
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I want to talk about confidence. So using that same scale, how confident are you that you can beat the Percocet? | 1irq
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That's what I've been trying to do for how long have I been coming in here? | 4crq
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About about six months now. | 6cd
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I've tried I mean, I have really tried. I know I can't I don't I don't. I don't think I can do it. | 0id
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So it was in the one to 10 scale. What do you think you would be? | 1irq
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Like 0 1 I can't. I've been trying. | 0id
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Yeah, it's pretty depressing. | 6cd
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I'll leave here swearing to myself. I'm done. You know that next week I'm going to come in and I'm going to tell you that I didn't use at all and then like before, I'm in bed. I've already taken some you know that night. | 6cd
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Well, yeah, I mean, I used to I used to with the gambling I guess, I I used to hit Delaware Park, you know, on a regular basis and spent a lot of money and my husband was pretty upset about it and I had a really hard time stopping that. | 0id
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So that was those tough that was. Would you say that you felt addicted to gambling? | 5yq
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We Oh yeah, definitely. | 8op
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And it was painful to stop. Are you happy that you did stop? | 5yq
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Oh, God, I would never want to go back to that. Yeah. | 6cd
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So when you were in the middle of that addiction of gambling, right, how likely to seem that you would be able to stop back then? | 1irq
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Yeah, that's that's a really good point. I didn't think that I was going to be able to say probably about a to two or three. | 0id
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So there's some parallels here between what happened with the gambling and with what's happening now the Percocet. | 11orq
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I didn't think about it that way. So I really didn't think I could do it then and it's been, you know, a couple years since I've even been in a casino. | 10od
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So you would say you were successful at beating that addiction? | 5yq
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Yeah, definitely. | 8op
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Definitely success, so what happened? | 1irq
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It's so different. It's different. It's so different. Oh my god. Let's talk about that. Just like I just find myself popping them in my mouth. You know. | 0id
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So the mechanism is different. Like for the gambling, you'd have to drive to the casino to drive Delaware Park. | 3gc
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Right | 3gc
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You'd have to have money | 3gc
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Right, Right. | 3gc
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Whereas the the percocets so easy. Yeah that you get them for my friends. | 3gc
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Yeah. | 3gc
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And it's a lot easier to consume and Percocet than to get in your car and make the time and so the mechanism is different. | 3gc
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Okay | 3gc
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But wonder if there's any similarities with this? Well, with the success and the potential success, meaning you you thought that you could never stop gambling, you think that you could never get through detox? | 1irq
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I didn't think about detox, but you're right. It was miserable in that period when I first stopped kind of casino and I felt that really strong urge to go. And I made it through that, my husband was amazing. | 0id
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You husband was supportive? | 5yq
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Oh yeah, he was really great. He would sit with me he would talk me through it. We go to movies sweet, you now he was really encouraging. Probably be really happy to see me stop using these Percocet too. | 8op
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But you gained too high from that gambling. | 3gc
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Yeah. | 3gc
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that was it was addictive? | 4crq
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Right | 6cd
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. He He's really, you know, upset, by the way, and I'm taking them and he's really worried about me losing the job. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to help me in the same way, I guess. | 8op
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I can definitely do that. Yeah. | 8op
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So we'll pick up next week there. And I really appreciate you coming in today. | 3gc
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Thanks a lot. | 3gc
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Thanks, you | 3gc
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Hi Amy, I'm Denise I one of the advocates here, at the center and how are you? How are you today? | 2gt
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I'm fine. Thanks. Well, strange feeling strange for this, but okay. | 2gt
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Well, why don't you tell me a little bit about what brings you here today? | 1irq
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I'm not even sure I am I heard about this place and that you work with women who are having trouble with a relationship and are confused. And so I thought I'd give you guys a call. And so I'm, thank you so much for taking the time to see me. | 0id
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So you're, you've heard a little bit about the program here. Would it help if I just explained a little bit about what what my role might be today? | 5yq
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Yeah, yeah, cuz I don't know what to do. | 8op
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That sounds really hard because I'm not sure I'm very good at sorting things out myself. Yeah. Yeah. | 6cd
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So right now you're feeling a little overwhelmed with everything that's going on, and you're not even sure where to start. | 4crq
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Yeah. So now anything any kind of decisions you make, or anything that you do affects both you and and the baby. | 4crq
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Well, I if you're interested or you're willing, why don't you tell me a little bit about your story? | 1irq
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I don't know where to start. He and I had been together for about a year. And I got pregnant right away and we just had this baby a little while ago. And and before that I was working. And he and I, you know, we're on and off here and there, we get invites and he disappears for a while then he comes back. That's kind of what the ears look like. And I just been getting more and more confused on what to do and recently he did something really that didn't even look like him. He looked like a different person and it freaked me out and freaked the baby out. And quite honestly, it freaked him out too. He didn't he said he didn't know what happened and he felt he said he felt out of control. | 0id
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Yeah. Yeah. And he's, he's, he really helps us out. And I didn't know what to do with that. So that's why it's, I guess that feeling that I have had since that happened has prompted me to call somebody to figure out what to do. | 0id
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What are your thoughts right now about some of the options out there for you to do if, if anything, what are what are you thinking about? | 1irq
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I haven't talked anybody for for a year really | 0id
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gotten pretty isolated ? | 4crq
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So you had been kind of thinking about maybe going back to work and doing doing some of that on your on your own and, and yet He, he doesn't really he's expressing that he liked to be able to take care of you. And, and when he's there, he does take care of you. | 4crq
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it does take care of us. He's, uh, he's he makes sure that I have enough money for, you know, the basic needs in the house and he pays the rent and, and you know, but when I when he's gone and I run out of money, it just kind of that's when I think cut it. Just wish I could take a little bit by myself. I just not sure how to go about doing that. | 6cd
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Does that leaves you in a real bind when you're, you're there and you don't have what you need? | 1irq
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And I yeah, and I don't know who to talk to about that. I try to call him sometimes and make up you know, and say sorry for the fight that we had and sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. | 0id
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So you've kind of find yourself when you're in that bind, trying to find ways of, of getting getting what you need. | 3gc
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Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know how to do this. I mean, I don't know what to do next. Not very good at it. | 3gc
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I just want to say we can go over some things that are potential to talk about to really focus on that might help you. But I just want to let you know that this is, I really appreciate how hard this is to be able to talk about it. And it's it's not an easy situation, and you're definitely not alone. And I really appreciate your willingness to talk about it. | 3gc
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Thanks. It's really hard to | 3gc
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Yeah I know. There are lots of different things that we can talk about that are that that many women in very similar situations find themselves and things that we can talk about and focus our conversation on that might help you just sort of sort out and Figure out what if anything that you want to do differently or how to what your next step might be? | 3gc
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okay | 3gc
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yeah, right. | 3gc
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so maybe you spend a lot of time already thinking about your relationship and really struggling with what what it means and where it is. And now you're kind of think well, maybe I think about some other things and see where I might go with those. | 3gc
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These things if the job and taking learning how to be a better mother and might be a might help the relationship so that might be | 3gc
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What to do about the relationship? Yeah, what to do about the relationship? I'm not sure what to do with a relationship. | 6cd
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I don't even know what to think about that. I don't know how to. Yeah, I don't feel like I've been making any decisions. | 3gc
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Yeah. And how to balance that with being a mom at the same time, because that sounds really hard. | 8op
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So you might have to explore some other options for the child care and in other ways of taking care of the baby so that you would be feel okay about going back to work? | 3gc
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Yeah. Yeah. Somebody I trusted. Yeah. And I'd have to figure out just the timing of that and a job that would fit a schedule where I could still breastfeed and help her with her naps and make sure I'm there for bedtime and all those important times, but make enough money that it was worthwhile to, to do it. Yeah, to be out and working and paying somebody. That sounds like a lot. | 3gc
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It really does sound, though, like you, you're really deeply committed to taking care of your child and providing the kind of structure and, and, and things the basic needs and really taking care of your child at the same time. | 3gc
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Right | 3gc
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I didn't realize that I've spent so much time thinking about him all the time. And when we can hear back and does he love us? And why the heck did he do that that weird thing and why does he care about these other things that he cares about? | 3gc
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Like being jealous, not wanting you to have friends? | 4crq
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Yeah, why does he. And it has nothing to do with what I'm thinking about now, which is the baby and | 6cd
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So you're realizing to how much it really takes to focus attention on on the baby. And to be able to Do it and it's like I it's hard to do both. It's hard to really think about doing both. | 4crq
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I need his help with that. Yeah, I don't need to be worrying about him too. | 6cd
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Hmm | 3gc
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I don't understand what safety planning means. | 4crq
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Well, one of the things that we we look at is trying to help people who are in a situation similar to you where, where there might be some where there might be some fear about something that could that might happen, or you know, and I know you said he had indicated that he wouldn't do it again. But sometimes it really helps people to feel to have some plans in place for what you would do if anything came up and how to get you and your baby safe, if that's what needs to happen. | 6cd
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So if he kind of got that weird look in his eye again, which actually I've seen before, but he just never really did anything like this before. | 3gc
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He just went farther this time? | 4crq
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Yeah. Okay, so like, if I recognize if I saw that look What to do? | 3gc
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Yeah, yeah. And, and, and sometimes that ties in with, you know, there might be places that you can go to get saved, there might be steps that you can take to, to really keep yourself safe or make sure that the baby's safe for people to call or think just things that you can do based on what your life is like and what you what resources you have available to you. Is that something you're interested in really exploring? | 3gc
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Sounds kind of freaky to think that I would have to keep myself safe from somebody that says he loves me and you know, love the baby. Sounds a little strange. | 3gc
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Some ways it just seems like it shouldn't have to be that way. | 3gc
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No, shouldn't have to be that way. But I didn't expect him to do what he did either. So That kind of came out of nowhere | 3gc
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Yeah. Well, let me see if I if I got it all and then we can make some decisions about where to move from here or how to take the next step with that. I want to make sure I understand a little bit about your situation. | 3gc
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Okay | 3gc
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that yeah, that kind of captures it all. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know where to start. But I guess that's why I'm talking to you. | 3gc
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So there's like a good somebody can help me work on my resume or something like that. | 3gc
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There are other options for for a variety of things and we can make some have some discussions about that. | 3gc
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