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Yeah.
6cd
So let's talk about another construct. That's important.
3gc
Okay.
3gc
I want to talk about confidence. So using that same scale, how confident are you that you can beat the Percocet?
1irq
That's what I've been trying to do for how long have I been coming in here?
4crq
About about six months now.
6cd
I've tried I mean, I have really tried. I know I can't I don't I don't. I don't think I can do it.
0id
So it was in the one to 10 scale. What do you think you would be?
1irq
Like 0 1 I can't. I've been trying.
0id
Yeah, it's pretty depressing.
6cd
I'll leave here swearing to myself. I'm done. You know that next week I'm going to come in and I'm going to tell you that I didn't use at all and then like before, I'm in bed. I've already taken some you know that night.
6cd
Well, yeah, I mean, I used to I used to with the gambling I guess, I I used to hit Delaware Park, you know, on a regular basis and spent a lot of money and my husband was pretty upset about it and I had a really hard time stopping that.
0id
So that was those tough that was. Would you say that you felt addicted to gambling?
5yq
We Oh yeah, definitely.
8op
And it was painful to stop. Are you happy that you did stop?
5yq
Oh, God, I would never want to go back to that. Yeah.
6cd
So when you were in the middle of that addiction of gambling, right, how likely to seem that you would be able to stop back then?
1irq
Yeah, that's that's a really good point. I didn't think that I was going to be able to say probably about a to two or three.
0id
So there's some parallels here between what happened with the gambling and with what's happening now the Percocet.
11orq
I didn't think about it that way. So I really didn't think I could do it then and it's been, you know, a couple years since I've even been in a casino.
10od
So you would say you were successful at beating that addiction?
5yq
Yeah, definitely.
8op
Definitely success, so what happened?
1irq
It's so different. It's different. It's so different. Oh my god. Let's talk about that. Just like I just find myself popping them in my mouth. You know.
0id
So the mechanism is different. Like for the gambling, you'd have to drive to the casino to drive Delaware Park.
3gc
Right
3gc
You'd have to have money
3gc
Right, Right.
3gc
Whereas the the percocets so easy. Yeah that you get them for my friends.
3gc
Yeah.
3gc
And it's a lot easier to consume and Percocet than to get in your car and make the time and so the mechanism is different.
3gc
Okay
3gc
But wonder if there's any similarities with this? Well, with the success and the potential success, meaning you you thought that you could never stop gambling, you think that you could never get through detox?
1irq
I didn't think about detox, but you're right. It was miserable in that period when I first stopped kind of casino and I felt that really strong urge to go. And I made it through that, my husband was amazing.
0id
You husband was supportive?
5yq
Oh yeah, he was really great. He would sit with me he would talk me through it. We go to movies sweet, you now he was really encouraging. Probably be really happy to see me stop using these Percocet too.
8op
But you gained too high from that gambling.
3gc
Yeah.
3gc
that was it was addictive?
4crq
Right
6cd
Oh, yeah. Yeah. He He's really, you know, upset, by the way, and I'm taking them and he's really worried about me losing the job. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to help me in the same way, I guess.
8op
I can definitely do that. Yeah.
8op
So we'll pick up next week there. And I really appreciate you coming in today.
3gc
Thanks a lot.
3gc
Thanks, you
3gc
Hi Amy, I'm Denise I one of the advocates here, at the center and how are you? How are you today?
2gt
I'm fine. Thanks. Well, strange feeling strange for this, but okay.
2gt
Well, why don't you tell me a little bit about what brings you here today?
1irq
I'm not even sure I am I heard about this place and that you work with women who are having trouble with a relationship and are confused. And so I thought I'd give you guys a call. And so I'm, thank you so much for taking the time to see me.
0id
So you're, you've heard a little bit about the program here. Would it help if I just explained a little bit about what what my role might be today?
5yq
Yeah, yeah, cuz I don't know what to do.
8op
That sounds really hard because I'm not sure I'm very good at sorting things out myself. Yeah. Yeah.
6cd
So right now you're feeling a little overwhelmed with everything that's going on, and you're not even sure where to start.
4crq
Yeah. So now anything any kind of decisions you make, or anything that you do affects both you and and the baby.
4crq
Well, I if you're interested or you're willing, why don't you tell me a little bit about your story?
1irq
I don't know where to start. He and I had been together for about a year. And I got pregnant right away and we just had this baby a little while ago. And and before that I was working. And he and I, you know, we're on and off here and there, we get invites and he disappears for a while then he comes back. That's kind of what the ears look like. And I just been getting more and more confused on what to do and recently he did something really that didn't even look like him. He looked like a different person and it freaked me out and freaked the baby out. And quite honestly, it freaked him out too. He didn't he said he didn't know what happened and he felt he said he felt out of control.
0id
Yeah. Yeah. And he's, he's, he really helps us out. And I didn't know what to do with that. So that's why it's, I guess that feeling that I have had since that happened has prompted me to call somebody to figure out what to do.
0id
What are your thoughts right now about some of the options out there for you to do if, if anything, what are what are you thinking about?
1irq
I haven't talked anybody for for a year really
0id
gotten pretty isolated ?
4crq
So you had been kind of thinking about maybe going back to work and doing doing some of that on your on your own and, and yet He, he doesn't really he's expressing that he liked to be able to take care of you. And, and when he's there, he does take care of you.
4crq
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it does take care of us. He's, uh, he's he makes sure that I have enough money for, you know, the basic needs in the house and he pays the rent and, and you know, but when I when he's gone and I run out of money, it just kind of that's when I think cut it. Just wish I could take a little bit by myself. I just not sure how to go about doing that.
6cd
Does that leaves you in a real bind when you're, you're there and you don't have what you need?
1irq
And I yeah, and I don't know who to talk to about that. I try to call him sometimes and make up you know, and say sorry for the fight that we had and sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't.
0id
So you've kind of find yourself when you're in that bind, trying to find ways of, of getting getting what you need.
3gc
Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know how to do this. I mean, I don't know what to do next. Not very good at it.
3gc
I just want to say we can go over some things that are potential to talk about to really focus on that might help you. But I just want to let you know that this is, I really appreciate how hard this is to be able to talk about it. And it's it's not an easy situation, and you're definitely not alone. And I really appreciate your willingness to talk about it.
3gc
Thanks. It's really hard to
3gc
Yeah I know. There are lots of different things that we can talk about that are that that many women in very similar situations find themselves and things that we can talk about and focus our conversation on that might help you just sort of sort out and Figure out what if anything that you want to do differently or how to what your next step might be?
3gc
okay
3gc
yeah, right.
3gc
so maybe you spend a lot of time already thinking about your relationship and really struggling with what what it means and where it is. And now you're kind of think well, maybe I think about some other things and see where I might go with those.
3gc
These things if the job and taking learning how to be a better mother and might be a might help the relationship so that might be
3gc
What to do about the relationship? Yeah, what to do about the relationship? I'm not sure what to do with a relationship.
6cd
I don't even know what to think about that. I don't know how to. Yeah, I don't feel like I've been making any decisions.
3gc
Yeah. And how to balance that with being a mom at the same time, because that sounds really hard.
8op
So you might have to explore some other options for the child care and in other ways of taking care of the baby so that you would be feel okay about going back to work?
3gc
Yeah. Yeah. Somebody I trusted. Yeah. And I'd have to figure out just the timing of that and a job that would fit a schedule where I could still breastfeed and help her with her naps and make sure I'm there for bedtime and all those important times, but make enough money that it was worthwhile to, to do it. Yeah, to be out and working and paying somebody. That sounds like a lot.
3gc
It really does sound, though, like you, you're really deeply committed to taking care of your child and providing the kind of structure and, and, and things the basic needs and really taking care of your child at the same time.
3gc
Right
3gc
I didn't realize that I've spent so much time thinking about him all the time. And when we can hear back and does he love us? And why the heck did he do that that weird thing and why does he care about these other things that he cares about?
3gc
Like being jealous, not wanting you to have friends?
4crq
Yeah, why does he. And it has nothing to do with what I'm thinking about now, which is the baby and
6cd
So you're realizing to how much it really takes to focus attention on on the baby. And to be able to Do it and it's like I it's hard to do both. It's hard to really think about doing both.
4crq
I need his help with that. Yeah, I don't need to be worrying about him too.
6cd
Hmm
3gc
I don't understand what safety planning means.
4crq
Well, one of the things that we we look at is trying to help people who are in a situation similar to you where, where there might be some where there might be some fear about something that could that might happen, or you know, and I know you said he had indicated that he wouldn't do it again. But sometimes it really helps people to feel to have some plans in place for what you would do if anything came up and how to get you and your baby safe, if that's what needs to happen.
6cd
So if he kind of got that weird look in his eye again, which actually I've seen before, but he just never really did anything like this before.
3gc
He just went farther this time?
4crq
Yeah. Okay, so like, if I recognize if I saw that look What to do?
3gc
Yeah, yeah. And, and, and sometimes that ties in with, you know, there might be places that you can go to get saved, there might be steps that you can take to, to really keep yourself safe or make sure that the baby's safe for people to call or think just things that you can do based on what your life is like and what you what resources you have available to you. Is that something you're interested in really exploring?
3gc
Sounds kind of freaky to think that I would have to keep myself safe from somebody that says he loves me and you know, love the baby. Sounds a little strange.
3gc
Some ways it just seems like it shouldn't have to be that way.
3gc
No, shouldn't have to be that way. But I didn't expect him to do what he did either. So That kind of came out of nowhere
3gc
Yeah. Well, let me see if I if I got it all and then we can make some decisions about where to move from here or how to take the next step with that. I want to make sure I understand a little bit about your situation.
3gc
Okay
3gc
that yeah, that kind of captures it all. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know where to start. But I guess that's why I'm talking to you.
3gc
So there's like a good somebody can help me work on my resume or something like that.
3gc
There are other options for for a variety of things and we can make some have some discussions about that.
3gc