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yeah, yeah, definitely. It's hard to focus but if I don't do it I don't know. I mean, I can barely get out of bed. I can I don't know, I'm completely what to do
6cd
And this is tough for you. The Percocet makes you feel normal. I would talk about this before. Yeah, it used to give you high, but not anymore.
3gc
No, right. It is not fun.
3gc
But it makes you feel normal.
3gc
Right.
3gc
And we've talked about the detox options.
3gc
Oh god no.no no no,
3gc
it's not something that you want. So really, what's changed to make things more difficult is that you're worried that your coworkers are on to you. Right. And it's your performance in terms of focusing on on your accounting work has been compromised as well.
3gc
Yeah
3gc
is that right ?
4crq
Yeah. And when you put it that way, she's definitely noticed it and she talks to so it's not like she's if she thinks something's up. With me, she's going to keep it to herself. So that would be the reputation piece and then also, the quality of my work. I know it's, it's not the same, it's a lot harder for me to produce what I used to.
6cd
And you're afraid that's going to be noticed as well?
5yq
Yeah, for sure. But I can't take detox, there's it's just not an option.
8op
Alright. Let's talk about I want to do some scaling work. I want to talk about the importance of this change to you know, cuz we've been talking about this change for a while
3gc
that change, like giving up the Percocet.
4crq
See, I go back and forth. I don't know that it's that important. Well, if I lose my job, that would be horrible. So maybe it is pretty important. I mean, it's important that I keep my job. It's really important that I keep my job, and then it keeps my reputation.
0id
Yeah, because to get out of bed, yeah. Okay.
6cd
So if you if you if you had to pick a number one to 10, or 10 is extremely important. How important is it to you to make the change?
1irq
7 8 7.
0id
7 so fairly important.
3gc
Alright, eight. I mean, I got to keep it up.
3gc
You have to keep it up?
4crq
Yeah.
6cd
So let's talk about another construct. That's important.
3gc
Okay.
3gc
I want to talk about confidence. So using that same scale, how confident are you that you can beat the Percocet?
1irq
That's what I've been trying to do for how long have I been coming in here?
4crq
About about six months now.
6cd
I've tried I mean, I have really tried. I know I can't I don't I don't. I don't think I can do it.
0id
So it was in the one to 10 scale. What do you think you would be?
1irq
Like 0 1 I can't. I've been trying.
0id
Yeah, it's pretty depressing.
6cd
I'll leave here swearing to myself. I'm done. You know that next week I'm going to come in and I'm going to tell you that I didn't use at all and then like before, I'm in bed. I've already taken some you know that night.
6cd
Well, yeah, I mean, I used to I used to with the gambling I guess, I I used to hit Delaware Park, you know, on a regular basis and spent a lot of money and my husband was pretty upset about it and I had a really hard time stopping that.
0id
So that was those tough that was. Would you say that you felt addicted to gambling?
5yq
We Oh yeah, definitely.
8op
And it was painful to stop. Are you happy that you did stop?
5yq
Oh, God, I would never want to go back to that. Yeah.
6cd
So when you were in the middle of that addiction of gambling, right, how likely to seem that you would be able to stop back then?
1irq
Yeah, that's that's a really good point. I didn't think that I was going to be able to say probably about a to two or three.
0id
So there's some parallels here between what happened with the gambling and with what's happening now the Percocet.
11orq
I didn't think about it that way. So I really didn't think I could do it then and it's been, you know, a couple years since I've even been in a casino.
10od
So you would say you were successful at beating that addiction?
5yq
Yeah, definitely.
8op
Definitely success, so what happened?
1irq
It's so different. It's different. It's so different. Oh my god. Let's talk about that. Just like I just find myself popping them in my mouth. You know.
0id
So the mechanism is different. Like for the gambling, you'd have to drive to the casino to drive Delaware Park.
3gc
Right
3gc
You'd have to have money
3gc
Right, Right.
3gc
Whereas the the percocets so easy. Yeah that you get them for my friends.
3gc
Yeah.
3gc
And it's a lot easier to consume and Percocet than to get in your car and make the time and so the mechanism is different.
3gc
Okay
3gc
But wonder if there's any similarities with this? Well, with the success and the potential success, meaning you you thought that you could never stop gambling, you think that you could never get through detox?
1irq
I didn't think about detox, but you're right. It was miserable in that period when I first stopped kind of casino and I felt that really strong urge to go. And I made it through that, my husband was amazing.
0id
You husband was supportive?
5yq
Oh yeah, he was really great. He would sit with me he would talk me through it. We go to movies sweet, you now he was really encouraging. Probably be really happy to see me stop using these Percocet too.
8op
But you gained too high from that gambling.
3gc
Yeah.
3gc
that was it was addictive?
4crq
Right
6cd
Oh, yeah. Yeah. He He's really, you know, upset, by the way, and I'm taking them and he's really worried about me losing the job. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to help me in the same way, I guess.
8op
I can definitely do that. Yeah.
8op
So we'll pick up next week there. And I really appreciate you coming in today.
3gc
Thanks a lot.
3gc
Thanks, you
3gc
Hi Ann, how are you doing today ?
2gt
Hi Dr. Grande, about the same.
2gt
About the same ?
4crq
Yeah
6cd
what was going on ?
1irq
Well, it might be a little worse had you know, I've been talking about my problems with the perks. The past couple of times I've seen you and I don't know I think at work, they might be starting to notice a little bit.
0id
They might be starting to notice that you're under the influence of the Percocet?
4crq
Yeah.
6cd
Could before I remember when we talked, it seemed like you felt safe in that No one was gonna find you out.
3gc
Well, yeah, because when I take them, I feel normal. Like, it makes me feel like I can function. And I feel normal. But like, definitely last week, my coworker in the cubicle across the way was she was looking at me, she was just looking at me really funny and, and then also, I've been having a little bit of trouble with the numbers. I'm just not. I'm not on my game the way I used to be. And I know that there is a connection to the drugs.
3gc
So in terms of concentrating, focusing?
4crq
yeah, yeah, definitely. It's hard to focus but if I don't do it I don't know. I mean, I can barely get out of bed. I can I don't know, I'm completely what to do
6cd
And this is tough for you. The Percocet makes you feel normal. I would talk about this before. Yeah, it used to give you high, but not anymore.
3gc
No, right. It is not fun.
3gc
But it makes you feel normal.
3gc
Right.
3gc
And we've talked about the detox options.
3gc
Oh god no.no no no,
3gc
it's not something that you want. So really, what's changed to make things more difficult is that you're worried that your coworkers are on to you. Right. And it's your performance in terms of focusing on on your accounting work has been compromised as well.
3gc
Yeah
3gc
is that right ?
4crq
Yeah. And when you put it that way, she's definitely noticed it and she talks to so it's not like she's if she thinks something's up. With me, she's going to keep it to herself. So that would be the reputation piece and then also, the quality of my work. I know it's, it's not the same, it's a lot harder for me to produce what I used to.
6cd
And you're afraid that's going to be noticed as well?
5yq
Yeah, for sure. But I can't take detox, there's it's just not an option.
8op
Alright. Let's talk about I want to do some scaling work. I want to talk about the importance of this change to you know, cuz we've been talking about this change for a while
3gc
that change, like giving up the Percocet.
4crq
See, I go back and forth. I don't know that it's that important. Well, if I lose my job, that would be horrible. So maybe it is pretty important. I mean, it's important that I keep my job. It's really important that I keep my job, and then it keeps my reputation.
0id
Yeah, because to get out of bed, yeah. Okay.
6cd
So if you if you if you had to pick a number one to 10, or 10 is extremely important. How important is it to you to make the change?
1irq
7 8 7.
0id
7 so fairly important.
3gc
Alright, eight. I mean, I got to keep it up.
3gc
You have to keep it up?
4crq